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          WAIT, WE GOT CHAIRMAN OF THE MEETING. 
          YES. 
          ANOTHER MINUTE OR TWO  WE'VE BEEN FIGHTING OVER IT. 
          HOWARD GOES TO THE ADMINISTRATOR OVER HERE. 
          YOU'LL BE THE ONE YOU HAVE AN ARM WRESTLE OR A LEG REST, SOMETHING. 
          SAVE THIS JOB WHILE I WAS OUT THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          READY. 
          SAPPY 
          [I. Call to Order, 2:00 PM]
AND YOU'RE READY, LISA. 
          OKAY. 
          AND RANDY'S READY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          LET'S GET STARTED ALREADY. 
          SEPTEMBER 7TH, OUR REGULAR MEETING FOR THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CALL IT TO ORDER AND WE WILL START AS WE ALWAYS DO WITHIN IN VOCATION. 
          AND WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE WITH US TODAY, UH, PASTOR DAVID CLARK FROM CALVARY 
          [II. Invocation]
CHAPEL HERE IN GOOCHLAND, UM, AFTER 
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PASTOR CLARK, UH, OFFERS AN INVOCATION, WE WILL ALL REMAIN STANDING AS ABLE AND THE LED BY MR. PETERSON ON THE PLEDGE. 
          I INVITE YOU TO PRAY FATHER GOD. 
          WE ARE SO THANKFUL FOR SUCH A GORGEOUS DAY, BUT AS I GOT OUT OF MY CAR AND JUST FELT THE AMAZING WEATHER AND SAW THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU BESTOWED UPON US AND THAT THE NEW FIRETRUCK LORD IS JUST AMAZING. 
          AND SEEING MR. ALVAREZ HERE, GOODNESS GRACIOUS AS THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WHAT A TRUE SERVANT FOR YOU AND LORD, WE ARE SO THANKFUL FOR THE BLESSINGS YOU'VE GIVEN US BELOW. 
          WE ALSO ARE ALSO MINDFUL OF THOSE THAT ARE STRUGGLING RIGHT NOW. 
          LORD, I PRAY THAT YOU'D BE WITH THOSE THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH COVID WITH THIS ILLNESS THAT IS SEEMINGLY RAMPANT. 
          LORD. 
          I JUST PRAY THAT YOU GIVE US PEACE DURING THOSE DIFFICULT TIMES PROTECTION FROM THIS DISEASE. 
          AND FATHER HELP US TO ALWAYS BE MINDFUL OF YOUR HAND OF PROVISION, BUT I PRAY THAT YOU BE WITH ALL THE LEADERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY, JUST GUIDE THEIR DECISIONS AND THEIR CONVERSATIONS. 
          LET IT BE SEASONED WITH LOVE AND WISDOM. 
          AND I PRAY THESE THINGS IN JESUS NAME. 
          AMEN. 
          I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU, PASTOR CARR, JUST A BRIEF CHAIR COMMENTS IN THERE. 
          THEY'RE ON THE AGENDA AND THE AGENDA IS UP ON THE SCREEN THERE. 
          THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WE ARE CONTINUING, UH, 
          [IV. Chair's Comments]
UH, WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE LAST 10 PLUS YEARS WITH, UH, TWICE A YEAR TOWN HALL MEETINGS. 
          AND WE, WE ARE THIS YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO BE IN PERSON, BUT WE ARE JUST DOING TWO AND THERE ARE KIND OF CAPTIONED AS A WESTERN TOWN HALL AND EASTERN TOWN HALL DISTRICTS. 
          ONE, TWO AND THREE ARE AT CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14TH AT 6:30 PM. 
          AND THEN A FEW DAYS LATER IN THE DISTRICT FOUR AND FIVE TOWN HALL, WE'LL BE AT SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH, OCTOBER 19TH, ALSO AT 6:30 PM. 
          UM, Y'ALL HAD THE CHANCE TO SEE THE FIRE TRUCK. 
          WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT. 
          THEY, THE LADDER TRUCK. 
          UM, WE'RE, WE'RE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THAT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S AN EXCITING DEVELOPMENT. 
          I'M SURE WE'LL HEAR SOME MORE FROM, FROM THE CHIEF ON THAT, WHICH WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THAT. 
          SO IT'S GREAT AND EXCITING THAT THAT'S HERE. 
          AND SO WE'LL JUST MOVE RIGHT INTO, UM, MR. ALVAREZ COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          I'D LIKE TO FIRST THANK THE BOARD FOR TRUSTING ME TO DO THIS 
          [V. County Administrator's Comments]
JOB FOR, FOR A FEW MONTHS. 
          UM, IT FEELS KIND OF COMFORTABLE UP HERE, A LITTLE DIFFERENT I'M MORE NERVOUS THAN I WAS WHEN I WAS ON THE BOARD. 
          SO LET'S SEE HOW IT GOES. 
          SO MY, MY COMMENTS, UH, JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY ABOUT THE SEPTEMBER 11 REMEMBRANCE EVENTS. 
          UH, THERE WILL BE TWO EVENTS ON SEPTEMBER 11, ONE AT 9:45 AM HERE AT COMPANY FIVE FIREHOUSE AT 27, 10 FAIRGROUND ROAD AND A 7:00 PM AT COMPANY ONE FIREHOUSE AT 8 180 RIVER ROAD WEST. 
          AND AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE HAVE A MEMORIAL THERE AT THAT FIRE STATION THAT CONTAINS STEEL FROM THE TOWERS. 
          UM, SO THAT THAT'LL BE A, UM, A GOOD CEREMONY THERE IN THE EVENING. 
          ALSO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THE GOOCHLAND DAY PARADE. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR A FEW YEARS. 
          THIS YEAR, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO HAVE A PARADE. 
          UM, AND THE PARADE IS GOING INTO THE PARK, UH, HOLINESS CHURCH, UM, AT, UH, 9:30 AM. 
          SO THAT'S A 309 RIVER ROAD AND IT'LL GO TO ARROWS ROAD AT 30 57 RIVER ROAD WEST. 
          I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 40 VEHICLES OR PARTICIPANTS RIGHT NOW SIGNED UP TO PARADE. 
          SO, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOR PROBABLY 15 YEARS SINCE THE ORIGINAL PARADE WAS CANCELED YEARS AGO. 
          AND THEN AT 11 O'CLOCK ON THE SAME DAY, UH, THE GOOCHLAND, UH, FALL FESTIVAL WE'LL KICK OFF, UH, HERE AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX. 
          UH, THERE'LL BE BUS SHUTTLES FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL, UH, TO HERE AND FOR THE BUSES, YOU MUST WEAR A MASK. 
          UM, THERE, THERE GOING TO BE FOOD VENDORS INSIDE, UH, VENDORS, GAMES, UM, ALL KINDS OF ACTIVITIES FOR THE, FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY. 
          AND LASTLY, THE SEWER MAIN BREAK THAT HAPPENED BACK IN JULY, OUR CONTRACTORS AND STAFF WERE ABLE TO REPAIR THE PIPE, UH, FULLY REPAIR 
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IT TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE QUEUE AND THEY ISSUED NO PENALTIES. 
          ADDITIONALLY, NOW WE ARE WORKING WITH A TEAM OF CONSULTANTS AND ENGINEERS TO FIGURE OUT A PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN. 
          UH, SO WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AS, UH, AS OUR TEAM AND THE WORK PROGRESSES IN THE NEAR FUTURE. 
          AND I THOUGHT WHAT HAPPENED TO GERMANY? THANK YOU, MR. OFFERS. 
          ONE OF US SHOULD, UM, IT, WASN'T AN, IT'S NOT WRITTEN DOWN IN FRONT OF US. 
          SO, UH, THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA MEETING, UM, THE WE'RE BACK TO, I THINK WE'VE MISSED, WELL, WE'VE DELAYED IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED TO BOARD THAT, UH, WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE SCHOOL BOARD AND CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, THEY'RE ALL INVITED. 
          I THINK, UH, SOME, SOME FOLKS WILL MAKE IT, OTHERS MAY SEND REPRESENTATIVES, BUT IT'S A CHANCE FOR US, UM, YOUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES TO SPEAK TO OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES. 
          AND AS OF NOW, WE HAVE DELEGATES MAGUIRE AND WHERE, AND SENATOR PEEK ALL PLANNING TO JOIN US. 
          9:00 AM A WEEK FROM TODAY, SEPTEMBER 14TH AT THE RESIDENCE INN BY MARRIOTT. 
          AND, UH, IT'S NOT IN SHORT PUMP, IT'S IN GOOCHLAND, BUT IT'S NEAR SHORT PUMP. 
          AND SO THAT, OF COURSE, LIKE ALL OUR MEETINGS, THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, UM, SCHOOL BOARD, A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON. 
          SO THEY'RE GOING TO GO FIRST AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO. 
          AND WE HAVE, UM, TWO HOURS SET ASIDE TO TALK TO OUR LEGISLATORS AND HEAR FROM OUR LEGISLATORS IN TERMS OF PRIOR SESSIONS AND, UH, WHAT THEY HAVE LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING UP IN JANUARY. 
          SO THAT IS A WEEK FROM TODAY, 9:00 AM AT THE RESIDENCE IN, UH, SO THAT TAKES US TO THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA AND BOARD MEMBERS OR MR. ALVAREZ. 
          ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS TO POSTPONE ANY 
          [VI. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the]
AGENDA ITEMS AT ANY MAKE ANY DELETIONS OR CHANGES IN THE ORDER OF PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US SEEING NONE? OKAY. 
          WE HAVE AN AGENDA, UH, IN PLACE AND WE WILL NEXT MOVE TO CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD. 
          AND, UH, JUST W USUAL RULES APPLY, OR, 
          [VII. Citizen Comment]
UH, WE ASK THAT YOU COME FORWARD, SPEAK TO US, SPEAK TO US THERE AT THAT PODIUM AT THAT MICROPHONE, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, UH, LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. 
          THE LIGHT WILL TURN YELLOW THERE ON THE TOP. 
          WHEN YOU HAVE A MINUTE LEFT AND RED, WHEN THE TIME IS UP, ANYTHING YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD ABOUT, UH, GERMANE TO GOOCHLAND COUNTY, PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROPHET ROAD, MANNEQUIN SABBATH, DISTRICT FOUR. 
          UM, I'VE ONLY BEEN IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY SINCE 2014. 
          WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE, WE HAD A CONTENTIOUS, UM, MR. WILTON WANTING TO DEVELOP ON MY ROAD. 
          THAT WAS THE FIRST ENCOUNTER WITH THE LOVELIEST WOMAN I'VE EVER KNOWN. 
          AND IT WAS BECKY, UM, REBECCA DICKINSON. 
          UM, SHE INTRODUCED ME TO THIS BOOK AND I THINK SHE MAY HAVE GIVEN ME THIS COPY. 
          I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE. 
          UM, I PROBABLY PAID FOR IT IN OTHER WAYS, BUT, UM, THIS IS TO ME, LIKE THE BEST COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, UH, IN THE MIDST OF DISPUTES, UM, UH, W WITH WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF GOOCHLAND, UM, ESPECIALLY IN MY AREA, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT ON TOP OF, UM, SONNEVIL, UM, I'M NOT IN THE VILLAGE JUST OUTSIDE, BUT, UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THOSE YEARS, UM, YOU HAVE ALL HEARD FROM ME AT SO MANY TIMES THAT SHE PROBABLY, UM, WE'VE, WE'VE ALWAYS GOT ALONG REALLY, REALLY GREAT. 
          AND I APPRECIATE, UM, MR. SHOP, YOU KNOW, AND MR. ALVAREZ AND EVERYBODY WHO HAS LISTENING, LISTEN TO ME AND, UH, TOOK THE OPINIONS OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE, ARE VERY VOCAL. 
          IT'S JUST THAT TODAY THEY'RE GETTING UP THERE IN AGE AND THEY REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THEIR, UH, NEXT FEW YEARS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE 
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TONIGHT. 
          I'LL HURRY UP. 
          UM, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, I AM STICKER STICKER QUEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH IT, THIS IS, THIS WAS PRINTED OUT FOR TUCKAHOE BRIDGE. 
          IT'S STILL VERY RELEVANT TODAY. 
          UM, AND I GUESS IT WILL STAY RELEVANT TILL TWO, UH, 2035. 
          UM, EVERY, EVERY TIME WE GO TO ONE OF THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINION OF WHAT THE COMP PLAN IS. 
          I FEEL LIKE IF YOU NOT GOING TO, YOU CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE A CHERRY PICK WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. 
          I'VE HAD TO LEARN TO ACCEPT THE THINGS I CANNOT CHANGE. 
          AND THEN MY CHURCH HAS BEEN DOING THIS SINCE THE SERENITY PRAYER FOR MONTHS NOW. 
          SO, UM, YES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, PLEASE REMEMBER THAT. 
          I AM STRICTLY WHILE THE COMP PLAN, PLEASE PROTECT AND SERVE IT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MOORE, ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, JOHN LAU, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD. 
          I AM A DIRECTOR FOR THE MONACAN SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. 
          AND, AND, UH, I'M SURE IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT MR. CHAIRMAN, BUT WE WILL ALSO BE ATTENDING ON THE 14TH AND, UH, SHARING SOME THOUGHTS THERE AND LISTENING AS, AS WELL. 
          UH, I PRESENTED FOLKS PUT AT YOUR DESK OR CHAIR, A FRIEND OF THE FARM STICKER FROM FARM BUREAU. 
          AND I MENTIONING THAT BECAUSE, UH, ON SEPTEMBER 20TH, THE ORIGINAL FARM BUREAU WILL HAVE HIS ANNUAL MEETING. 
          IT WILL BE OUT AT THE FIFE FIREHOUSE AT SIX O'CLOCK. 
          AND IF ANY OF YOU, OR I'M SURE ALL OF YOU, AND LET ME REPHRASE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ATTEND. 
          AND IF YOU WILL LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE ABLE, UH, I WILL ORGANIZE A SEAT AT THE TABLE FOR YOU. 
          IT IS A DINNER MEETING AND WE WILL BE ATTENDING TO COUNTY FARM BUREAU BUSINESS. 
          UM, AS MS. MOORE ACKNOWLEDGED OR REFERENCED IN THE COMP PLAN, WE DO HAVE A COMMITMENT TO THE FARMING AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY. 
          AND, UM, THIS IS A FIRSTHAND UPFRONT AND PERSONAL CLOSE INTERACTION WITH THE AG COMMUNITY AND THE DISTRICT. 
          I ALSO MENTIONED THE MORNING OF THE 20TH, THE MONICA SOIL, UH, DIRECTORS WILL BE OUT AT THE AG CENTER ON DOGTOWN ROAD. 
          WE CONVENE AT NINE O'CLOCK. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE CITIZEN COMMENT. 
          AND SO YOU ALL WOULD QUALIFY AND, UH, YOU COULD GIVE A LITTLE PAYBACK, I SUPPOSE, IF YOU WANTED. 
          UM, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MR. ALVAREZ AND MR. WIND BOTH HAVE BEEN HELPFUL, UH, IN OUR IDENTIFYING SOME OF THE, UH, POTENTIAL ISSUES IN THE COUNTY WITH BRIDGES. 
          UH, THE FARMERS ARE VERY INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT THE WEIGHT LIMITS ARE ON THE BRIDGES. 
          UH, MR. WYNN HAS GRACIOUSLY OFFERED TO GET ME IN TOUCH WITH THE BRIDGE DEPARTMENT, UM, AND I PLAN TO FOLLOW UP, BUT WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THAT WHERE THE BRIDGES EXISTS, THAT THEY'RE POSTED AND THE FARMING COMMUNITY, THE AG COMMUNITY IS AWARE OF. 
          DON'T CROSS THIS WITH A FULL LOAD OF CORN IN YOUR, IN YOUR, UH, IN YOUR VEHICLE. 
          UM, LAST THING, MONICA IS ON THE, UH, UH, AGENDA TODAY. 
          SO I WON'T GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL ON STAFF ADDITIONS AND ACTIVITIES THAT WERE GOING ON. 
          UM, BUT I WILL MENTION THAT I WAS HIGHLY IMPRESSED AS AN INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN WITH THE BOND, UH, REFERENDUM WEBSITE, AND MONICA IS WORKING ON CREATING A MORE ROBUST WEB PRESENCE. 
          AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT CONTRIBUTED, UH, BRAIN TRUST. 
          YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE AVAILABLE FOR US TO TAP INTO, BUT, UH, IF WE COULD REPLICATE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE WITH THE BOND REFERENDUM, THOSE RESOURCES WOULD THE APPRECIATED. 
          WE GOT SOME CRACKERJACK FOLKS ON STAFF THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM THAT. 
          UH, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO DO THE WORK, BUT IF YOU CAN GIVE US ANY GUIDANCE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND, UH, IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN THE FARM BUREAU DINNER ON THE 20TH, THAT'D BE NO, THANKS. 
          WHAT'S THE ORGANIZATION YOU'RE WITH AGAIN, MONICA, IT'S MONICA SOIL. 
          IT'S ACTUALLY AN ELECTED POSITION. 
          IT APPEARS ON THE BALLOT EVERY FOUR YEARS AND YOU'RE ON THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. 
          YOU'RE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE LEGISLATURE, BUT YOU'RE VERY KIND. 
          AND I JUST, I KNEW THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU DID. 
          UM, ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD? ALL RIGHT. 
          WE WILL CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD FOR OUR AFTERNOON SESSION AND MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO 
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THE, UM, ACTION ITEMS. FIRST ONE IS ROMAN NUMERAL 
          [VIII. Approval of Minutes: July 27 and August 3, 2021]
EIGHT ON OUR APPROVED APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR JULY 27TH IN AUGUST 3RD MEETING, JUST EVERYBODY GOT A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE AND THE BOARD IS READY. 
          CHAIRS READY FOR A MOTION? MS. CHAIRMAN? YES, MA'AM. 
          UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JULY 27, A SPECIAL MEETING BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SPECIALS, MEETINGS, SPECIAL MEETING, AND THE AUGUST 3RD REGULAR MEETING. 
          THANK YOU BOTH. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          HI. 
          SO WE'LL MOVE TO REPORTS AND WE'LL START AS USUAL WITH ON MR. IS HERE 
          [1. 5127: VDOT - August 2021]
MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          MR. ALVAREZ, GLAD TO SEE YOU. 
          IT'S BEEN A YEAR. 
          I THINK SO. 
          SOMETHING LIKE THAT. 
          HUH? A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THIS PAST MONTH WE RECEIVED 118 WORK ORDERS AND COMPLETED 114. 
          WE HAD 33 CALL-OUTS. 
          MOST OF THOSE WERE DUE TO TREES DOWN FROM SO SOME OF THOSE STORMS WE HAD THIS MONTH, PRETTY MUCH CLEAN. 
          A LOT OF THOSE UP. 
          I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH CHIEF FERGUSON ON A COUPLE OF ROADS, AND WE DID MANAGE TO GET OUT THERE AND CLEAN THOSE ROADS UP FOR HIM. 
          UH, PRIMARY MODE, WE'VE COMPLETED OUR THIRD CYCLE OF PRIMARY MO AND GETTING READY TO START THE SECONDARY CYCLE MOAN. 
          UM, HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THAT DONE BY AROUND THE FIRST OR SECOND WEEK IN OCTOBER, THEY WANT TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, THE, UH, BRIDGE WORK ON 64, UH, THE OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD BRIDGE THAT'S BEEN DELETED. 
          THEY STILL GO DO THE WORK ON THE PIER STEMS AND EVERYTHING, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO CLOSE THE ROADWAY ON TOP. 
          UH, WHAT IS HAPPENING THERE? THEY'RE GOING TO SHANNON HILL ROAD 605. 
          UH, THERE'LL BE WORKING ON A DETOUR STARTING ON SEPTEMBER 12TH. 
          IT WAS SLATED FOR TODAY AND TOMORROW THING, BUT IT GOT DELAYED DUE TO THE CONTRACTOR, NOT HAVING THE DETOUR SIGNS. 
          HE NEEDED TO CLOSE IT TODAY. 
          SO YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT, UH, NEXT WEEK. 
          I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, ANOTHER ITEM, UM, THE, SOME OF THE SURFACE, NOT THE SURF STREAM AND THE CAPE SEAL PROJECTS THAT WE HAD. 
          YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN WHERE THE SUBDIVISIONS HAVE BEEN SURFACE TREATED. 
          THE CONTRACTOR IS CURRENTLY IN HANOVER COUNTY, PUTTING THE SLURRY SEAL DOWN AND SOON AS THEY FINISHED THE SLURRY SEAL IN HANOVER, THERE'LL BE COMING TO GOOCHLAND TO COMPLETE THOSE ROADS EARL'S ROAD, UM, SHELTON RIDGE, A COUPLE OF OTHER ONES IN THERE. 
          SO OTHER THAN THAT, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE. 
          IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME PLEASE. 
          MR. CHAIR, MR. WAYNE. 
          YES, MR. SPINELLA. 
          I STARTED THE, I KNOW IT'S LOUISA COUNTY, BUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO 50 AND 5 22, THE, UH, ELECTRONIC SIGNS WENT UP WITH WORK. 
          IS THAT STARTING THE ROUNDABOUT? YES. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE, THE TIMEFRAME FOR THAT IS? AND IT SHOULD BE STARTING UP PROBABLY NEXT WEEK. 
          AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE NEXT TILL I CAN'T REMEMBER THE DATE SOMETIME NEXT YEAR TO COMPLETE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I JUST SAW THE SIGNS YESTERDAY, THIS LAST, GO AHEAD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          SO I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS, FIRST OF ALL, UM, TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS QUESTION. 
          SO APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK TO COMPLETE THAT JOB, PHILLIP? YOU, YOU REMEMBER THE, THE CLOSING DATE? CAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER, IS IT TWO MONTHS, NINE MONTHS? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DURATION? THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. 
          THAT'S THE GUY, I JUST WANT TO KIND OF A ROUGH IDEA BECAUSE ALL THE PEOPLE IN GOOCHLAND DO USE THAT INTERSECTION. 
          SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF FLAGGING OPERATIONS OUT THERE. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE A COUPLE OF WEEKEND CLOSURES AS I REMEMBER, AND THERE'LL BE A DETOUR PUT IN PLACE. 
          SO WE ARE WORKING WITH COLPEPPER DISTRICT IS ADMINISTERING THE CONTRACT, RIGHT. 
          INSPECTORS WILL BE OUT THERE. 
          THEY'RE GONNA SUPPLY US WITH A TWO WEEK LOOK AHEAD AND I'LL BE FORWARDING THAT ON TO MR. ALVAREZ. 
          AND Y'ALL IF Y'ALL LIKE IT TOO. 
          SO I JUST SENT IT TO HIM. 
          THAT'S THAT'S WE GOT MONEY FOR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO, UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. 
          SO THE, UH, SHANNON HILLS, 6 0 5 AND, UH, I, 64, THAT, THAT BRIDGE, UH, THAT WILL BE CLOSING DOWN BRIDGE TRAFFIC. 
          OH, OVER THE BRIDGE, APPROXIMATELY FOR HOW LONG? UP TO 30 DAYS UP TO 30 DAYS, THERE'LL BE A DETOUR IN PLACE TO GET AROUND. 
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RIGHT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT TWO MORE, IF YOU DON'T MIND THAT PEOPLE KEEP ASKING YOUR PERMISSION. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK ON THE WEIGHT. 
          WHAT I CALL THE WAYSIDE AREA THERE NEAR GEORGE'S TAVERN. 
          YOU DID THE WORK THERE, OR YOUR CREWS DID PERSONALLY, BUT THAT WAS VERY NICE, BUT WHY DO WE STILL HAVE THAT CONTAMINATED SPRING SIGN THERE? THAT WAS THERE? WHEN I KNOW IT WAS THERE FREE, AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER, AND THEN IT GOT, IT CAME DOWN OUT AND FORGOT, KNOCKED DOWN OR WHATEVER. 
          I DON'T WANT ANYBODY DRINKING THAT WATER. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THE WATER. 
          I HAVE NO IDEA THAT THAT HAS BEEN THERE. 
          LIKE I SAID, SINCE I'VE BEEN WITH OUT IN 1977, SO YEAH. 
          YEAH, IT WAS THERE WHEN I GOT HERE IN EARLY EIGHTIES. 
          UM, AND IT WAS JUST VERY DISCONCERTING. 
          AND THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE, AND THIS, I CAN'T BELIEVE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD THIS LONG AND ASKED THIS QUESTION, BUT I'M GOING TO, UM, SO WHEN WE DO HAVE STORMS AND TREES FALL ACROSS ROADS OR IMPAIR THE ROADS OR IMPEDE THE ROADS, I GUESS, UM, IS IT V-TACH RESPONSIBILITY TO CLEAN THE CLEAR THE TREES OFF? HOW DOES THIS WORK? YEAH, IF IT FALLS IN THE ROAD, WE WILL CUT, GET IT OUT OF THE ROAD FIRST AND THEN COME BACK AND CLEAN IT UP. 
          DEPENDS ON WHERE IT IS. 
          IF IT'S PART OF IT'S IN SOMEBODY'S YARD, I'M TALKING ABOUT A BIG TREE IN SOMEBODY'S FRONT YARD AND IT FALLS ACROSS THE ROAD. 
          WE'LL CUT IT TO AIR RIGHT AWAY AND LEAVE THE REST AND CLEAN THE REST OF IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT MAKES TOTAL SENSE EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO MY SISTER WENT INTO HER YARD. 
          BUT, BUT YOU CLEAR THE ROAD ENOUGH TO MAKE A PASSABLE AND THEN COME BACK AND CLAIM THE RIGHT OF WAY OR BRANCHES OR WHATEVER. 
          I'M SURE. 
          CHIEF FERGUSON AND HIS CREWS DO SOME CUTTING TOO. 
          SO WE'LL COME BACK AND CLEAN ALL OF THAT UP. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO PEOPLE WHO DO HAVE THOSE REQUEST, THEY JUST CALLED THAT SAME NUMBER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          MA'AM THAT'S ALL I HAVE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, MR. MANN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I DID READ THE REPORT THAT WAS SUBMITTED AHEAD OF TIME, BUT WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF FIRE RESCUE FOLKS HERE, AND WE'VE GOT A NICE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT OUT FRONT. 
          THERE'LL BE A COMPANY, ONE FIREHOUSE. 
          UH, COULD YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON A POTENTIAL FOR CUT THROUGH THE MEDIAN SO THEY CAN GO EAST RIGHT AWAY. 
          WE W WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. 
          FEVEROUSLY PHILIP AS A SUBMITTED TWO DIFFERENT PLANS, UH, AND BOTH PLANS WE WERE DISCOURAGED TO UTILIZE. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING ON ONE FINAL PLAN TO MAKE IT WORK. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING FOR. 
          WE'RE DISCOURAGED AS ALL GET OUT, TRYING TO GET THIS DONE, BECAUSE I KNOW MY CREW CAN PROBABLY GET THIS CUT-THROUGH DONE IN FIVE DAYS. 
          IT'LL BE OVER WITH OKAY. 
          FIVE DAYS IS GOOD. 
          NO, NO. 
          WHEN WE STARTED, WHENEVER WE STARTED, ONCE WE START WORKING, WE CAN GET IT DONE IN FIVE DAYS, EASY. 
          CAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WELL, YOU KNOW THAT I'D HATE TO SEE THAT LADDER TRUCK AND HAVE TO DO A FLIPPY FLIPPY. 
          I CAN, EVERY TIME THEY WANT TO GO EAT, I CAN UNDERSTAND. 
          I I'VE TOLD EVERYBODY YOU CAN, IF IT'S A HEAVY LIFT, YOU CAN DO IT. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOU TO HELP US. 
          WE DISCUSSED THAT IN OUR PRE-MEETING, UH, BEFORE THE BOARD MEETINGS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, FIVE DAYS IT IS ONCE WE GET STUCK. 
          THANK YOU, MR. I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO ANYTHING FURTHER. 
          OKAY. 
          MISS, LAST NIGHT I STILL HAVE COURT. 
          YOUR LIGHT IS ON THERE. 
          YOU GOOD? THANK YOU, MR. WYNN. 
          OKAY. 
          Y'ALL HAVE A GOOD WEEK. 
          YOU DO THE SAME WHEN WE GET STARTED. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I WROTE IT DOWN. 
          IT'S NOT NOTHING. 
          YOU'RE HERE FOR OUR NEXT ITEM. 
          INTRODUCTION OF NEW COUNTY STAFF. 
          [2. 5133: Introduction of New County Staff]
GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ALVAREZ, I'M MICHELLE SUTTON WITH THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT. 
          AND ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE NEW STAFF AND THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND ANIMAL PROTECTION DEPARTMENT, MS. NICHOLS HERE DUE TO HER RESIGNATION PAGE. 
          NICHOLS JOINED THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEYS TEAM ON AUGUST 2ND AS A LEGAL SECRETARY. 
          MS. NICHOLS BRINGS MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS A COURT REPORTER AND AN OFFICE MANAGER. 
          UM, MR. MONTGOMERY, IF YOU STAND, PLEASE, THANK YOU. 
          DUE TO A NEWLY APPROVED POSITION IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, JONATHAN MONTGOMERY JOINED THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF AS A PLANNING TECHNICIAN ON AUGUST 2ND, MR. MONTGOMERY GRADUATED FROM MARY WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY WITH A DEGREE IN GEOGRAPHY AND URBAN STUDIES AND HOLDS CURRENT GIS CERTIFICATION. 
          HE PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS A GIS ANALYST INTERN FOR STAFFORD COUNTY. 
          WELCOME MR. MCCONNELL, NATALIE HERS 
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DUE TO THE EXPANSION OF HOURS AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER. 
          NATALIE HIRSCH JOINED THE ANIMAL PROTECTION DEPARTMENT AS PART-TIME SHELTER ATTENDANT ON AUGUST 16TH, MS. HERSE PREVIOUSLY WORKED AS AN ANIMAL CARETAKER CARETAKER FOR PRIVATE CLIENTS, AND WE WELCOME HER AS WELL. 
          AND JOE GREEN. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU FOR STANDING DUE TO A DEPARTMENTAL REALIGNMENT. 
          I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE, UH, JOE GREEN AS THE COUNTY'S NEW DIRECTOR OF ANIMAL CARE AND PROTECTION. 
          MR. GREEN COMES TO US WITH OVER 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AND DOMESTIC ANIMAL CARE. 
          HE SERVED AS THE SHELTER OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR FOR RICHMOND CITY ANIMAL CARE AND CONTROL FOR SIX YEARS. 
          ANIMAL SERVICES MANAGER, INCLUDING CHIEF OF ANIMAL CONTROL FOR PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY FOR 14 YEARS. 
          AND WAS MOST RECENTLY THE HOSPITAL OPERATIONS MANAGER MANAGER FOR DISPUTE TANTA ANIMAL HOSPITAL FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. 
          MR. GREEN'S FIRST DAY WITH US IS SEPTEMBER 7TH TODAY. 
          WELCOME MR. GREEN, AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TODAY. 
          THANK YOU, MS. SONIA, AND WELCOME. 
          WELCOME TO ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. 
          UM, NEXT ITEM IS MORE INFORMATIONAL PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY. 
          IT'S THAT STARTS ON PAGE 48 OF OUR PACKET. 
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UM, AGAIN, IT LOOKS LIKE DISTRICT ONE HAS EVERYTHING UNTIL YOU SCROLL DOWN, YOU SEE IT'S NUMERICAL ORDER. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT COMING. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OF STUMP STAFF ON THOSE ITEMS? SO ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, ANOTHER INFORMATIONAL ITEM THAT REPORTS IN THE PACKET THAT IS ON PAGE 52 OF OUR PACKET. 
          I THINK WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE 
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HERE. 
          IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS HERE AND THEN HEARING NON BOARD REPORTS, DO WE HAVE ANYTHING IN THE WAY OF BOARD REPORTS? 
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I WANT US TO SPEND AN HOUR. 
          UH, WE WERE MOSTLY OKAY. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          THIS LAST CULLINAN. 
          NO, THERE'S HIT TWICE. 
          THERE, THERE. 
          YEP. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON TPO OR NO, I JUST THOUGHT ACTUALLY THINGS ARE GOING PRETTY SMOOTH RIGHT NOW. 
          WE HAVEN'T HAD TOO MANY, YOU'VE BEEN AT THE MEETING, SO WE HAVEN'T HAD TOO MANY BIG THINGS RIGHT NOW. 
          TPO IS GOOD. 
          YEAH. 
          AND A LOT'S HAPPENING WITH CBTA. 
          I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING WITH CBTA. 
          THAT'S KIND OF RELATES TO ALL OF THAT. 
          SO I'M SURE IT WAS AS THE YEAR WINDS DOWN, THERE'LL BE SOME MORE ACTIVITY AS THE SUMMER WINDS DOWN AND WE MOVE INTO THE YEAR, ANYTHING IN THE EAST, MS. JARON, NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS MEETING, ALTHOUGH THERE WERE A LOT OF NUMBERS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS UNDERWAY. 
          UM, WE, UH, HAVE STARTED THE AUDIT, WHICH, UH, FOR OUR SIX 30 YEAR END, UH, THE AUDITS DUE IN NOVEMBER. 
          SO IT'S IN MID-STRIDE AT THIS POINT, WE, UH, HAVE AN UPCOMING MEETING WITH A CREDIT RATING AGENCY AND, UH, WE'LL REPORT BACK AFTER THAT HAPPENS. 
          AND THEN, UH, WE'VE GOT A SERIES OF BOND REFERENDUM MEETINGS THAT ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND THOSE WILL BE CONDUCTED OVER NEXT 30 TO 45 DAYS. 
          UH, AGAIN, THAT'S IN, MID-STRIDE SO NOTHING TO REPORT THIS MONTH, BUT A LOT OF IRONS IN THE FIRE. 
          AND I THINK ON THAT REFERENDUM VOTING STARTS, WHAT, IN JUST 10 DAYS, IS IT THE 17TH AGAIN? 10 DAYS VOTING STARTS. 
          SO, UM, WE, THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES OUT THERE AND WE WILL BE COMING FORWARD WITH THE BOND REFERENDUM INFORMATION, UH, AN IMPORTANT VOTE FOR THE, FOR OUR COUNTY. 
          UM, AND I DIDN'T MEAN TO LOOK AWAY BEFORE I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT MR. SHAWN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT TAKES US TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          I'M GOING TO HAVE MR. ALVAREZ WALK US THROUGH AND FIELD ANY QUESTIONS, BUT FIRST, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT, UM, ANY 
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ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT THE BOARD, ANY BOARD MEMBER WISHES THAT WE PULL OUT FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION? ALL RIGHT. 
          SEEING NONE, UM, SEEING NONE, WE WILL, UM, GO, GO FORWARD WITH IT. 
          PLAN TO TAKE THEM ALL ON, IN ONE VOTE AFTER WE, AFTER WE GET A SUMMARY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX. 
          AND IT SAID REQUEST TO SET A HEARING FOR OCTOBER 5TH. 
          UH, THIS IS TO ADDRESS SOME CHANGES, UM, CREATED BY SENATE BILL 1398. 
          THAT AMENDED THE VIRGINIA CODE IS TO MAKE OUR CODE, UH, COINCIDE WITH HIM WITH HIS STATE LAW. 
          AND IT'S RELATED TO REPORTING OF, UM, RESERVATIONS MADE THROUGH A THIRD PARTY, FOR EXAMPLE, EXAMPLE EXPEDIA SO THAT WE CAN, UH, IT MEANS THAT THE TAX PAYMENTS WILL BE COLLECTED AT THAT TIME. 
          UM, THE SECOND 
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ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE PERFORMANCE CONTRACT WITH THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND THE DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. 
          UM, AND IT'S ALSO TO MEET, UH, STATE, UH, CODE CHANGES. 
          UH, THE THIRD ITEM IS, UH, THE AUTHORIZATION TO MAKE A DONATION OF A SURPLUS FIRE TANKER AND ACCESSORY ACCESSORIES TO CHARLES CITY COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE DISCUSSED THIS IN THE TWO BY TWOS. 
          UM, THE WE'RE DECOMMISSIONING THAT DRUG DUE TO MAINTENANCE COST AND THE OVERALL OF THE VEHICLE AND THE FOLKS FROM CHARLES CITY DON'T LISTEN TO THAT PERFECT CONDITION. 
          UM, AND SO WE HAVE ACTUALLY REPLACED IT ALREADY. 
          THAT'S A 20 YEAR OLD TRUCK WE'VE REPLACED IT. 
          AND, UM, SO THE, UH, ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE TRANSFER TO CHARLES CITY, THEIR DONATIONS SHOW CITY, THE FOURTH ITEM ON THE AGENDA. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF ANY MEMBERS OF THE LAWRENCE KNUCKLES FAMILY ARE HERE, UH, IS A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING, UM, MR. LAWRENCE NARCOS, UH, SERVICE, UH, TO GOOCHLAND COUNTY. 
          UM, MR. KNUCKLE SERVED ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FROM 72 TO 91 AND HE PASSED AWAY LAST YEAR, BUT THE SERVICE, UH, REMEMBRANCE SERVICE IS GONNA TAKE PLACE ON OCTOBER 2ND. 
          UM, IF YOU'D LIKE WE COULD READ THE RESOLUTION IT'S IN THE POCKET. 
          UM, IF NOT, UH, NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST TO SET A VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE FOR THE 2022 CALENDAR YEAR, UH, TO REDUCE THE, THE TAX FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY FROM $1 PER HUNDRED, 2.00001. 
          I THINK THAT'S A MILLI PENNY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYBE A MICROPAYMENT. 
          UM, I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A CAR WORTH A MILLION DOLLARS TO BE TAXED A DOLLAR. 
          I MAY BE WRONG WITH MY MOUTH, BUT SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ABOUT. 
          UM, THE SIXTH ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UM, THE BOARD HAS REQUESTED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO A MANDATE, UH, COUNTY CODE TO COMPLY WITH THE STATE CODE THAT WAS JUST CHANGED, UH, WHERE, UM, CURRENTLY SALARIED OR VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS SHERIFF'S AND DEPUTY SHERIFFS WHO HAVE COMPLETED AT LEAST FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE AND THEN SUFFER, SUFFER HYPERTENSION OR HEART DISEASE ARE ENTITLED TO LEGAL PRESUMPTION THAT THE CONDITION IS AN OCCUPATIONAL DISEASE, AND THIS, UH, WILL EXTEND IT TO EMS PERSONNEL AS WELL. 
          AND NUMBER SEVEN IS THE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR, 2022 BUDGET TO THE APPROPRIATE BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THE UTILITY, UM, FUND FOR, UH, RIVER ROAD, UM, WATER SERVICES. 
          SO HAVE TO IMPLEMENT INSTALL A, UH, PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE THAT WILL THAT'LL MAKE UP THERE. 
          THERE'VE BEEN SOME OCCASIONS WHERE WE LOSE PRESSURE FROM HER RYKO AND CITIZENS IN THE DISTRICT. 
          UM, DON'T HAVE WATER. 
          SO THIS HAS TO, UH, START THAT WORK AND DO THE ENGINEERING FOR THAT, FOR THAT WORK. 
          UM, AND THAT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM THE UTILITY CIP FUND AND NUMBER EIGHT ON THE LIST. 
          AND LAST ON THE LIST IS A RESOLUTION I'M ENDING THE FISCAL YEAR, 2022 BUDGET BY BUDGETING APPROPRIATING $108,000. 
          THIS WILL BE OUR FIRST INVESTMENT INVESTMENT FROM THE CBTA FUND FOR THE OPTICUM SYSTEMS THAT WILL BE INSTALLED ON THE FIVE REMAINING TRAFFIC LIGHTS IN THE COUNTY, NOT THE SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS FIRE AND RESCUE AND SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO CHANGE THE LIGHT AS THEY APPROACH AN INTERSECTION. 
          SO THEY GO THROUGH A GREEN LIGHT, THEIR WORK IS ALL GOING TO BE DONE BY V DOT AND IT'LL BE $108,000. 
          IF YOU APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA AT THE END OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UH, FIRE CHIEF, JIMMY JOHNSON FROM, UM, CHARLES CITY TO COME UP. 
          I BELIEVE THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, GIVE THEIR THINGS FOR THE TANKER TRUCK. 
          OKAY, WE'LL DO THAT AFTER WE TAKE A VOTE, BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BOARD MEMBERS TO, TO MR. ALVAREZ OR STAFF ON ANY OF THE ITEMS? ALL RIGHT. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO READ THE RESOLUTION, CELEBRATING THE LIFE OF LAWRENCE B KNUCKLES. 
          I FIRST LEARNED THIS GENTLEMEN, I'LL, I'LL TAKE CARE OF READING IT, BUT I FIRST LEARNED, UH, RETURNED TO THIS GENTLEMAN AND 
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STARTED GETTING A GLIMPSE OF HIS LIFETIME OF SERVICE TO THIS COMMUNITY. 
          WHEN I THINK WE TALK A WHOLE BRIDGE CASE WAS BEFORE SAID, I BELIEVE HE, HE WAS ALIVE AND, AND STRUGGLING WITH A DIFFICULT DISEASE AND END OF HIS LIFE. 
          I REMEMBER TALKING TO HIS ATTORNEY WHO APPEARED BEFORE US IN THAT CASE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AND HERE'S, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THAT TO PAUSE A LITTLE BIT AND LISTEN, LISTEN TO A RESOLUTION, WHEREAS LAWRENCE, EXCUSE ME. 
          WHEREAS LAWRENCE BOWLING, KNUCKLES OF MANNEQUIN, SABOT A CONSUMMATE PUBLIC SERVANT WHO SERVED LOYALLY ON THE GOODSON BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FROM JANUARY, 1972 TO DECEMBER, 1991 DIED ON MARCH 21ST, 2020. 
          AND WHEREAS LAWRENCE KNUCKLES WAS BORN IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY IN NOVEMBER, 1940 AND GRADUATED GOOCHLAND COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN 1959. 
          AND WHEREAS LAWRENCE KNUCKLES AT THE YOUNG AGE OF 14 YEARS OLD STARTED WORK AT THE  GAS STATION IN CENTERVILLE, AND THEN PURCHASE THAT GAS STATION A YEAR AFTER GRADUATING HIGH SCHOOL. 
          AND WHEREAS LAWRENCE KNUCKLES WAS A SUPPORTER OF THE HIGH SCHOOLS WORK STUDY PROGRAM, INCLUDING HIRING AND MENTORING STUDENTS AMONG HIS EMPLOYEES. 
          AND WHEREAS LAWRENCE KNUCKLES SERVED AN ACTIVE DUTY WITH THE ARMY NATIONAL GUARD FROM 1961 TO 1962 IN FORT CAMPBELL, KENTUCKY DURING THE BERLIN CRISIS. 
          AND WHEREAS LAWRENCE KNUCKLES WAS VERY INVOLVED WITH THE BANK OF THE JAMES, THE BANK OF GOOCHLAND COMMERCE BANK AND ESSEX BANK SERVING AS CHAIR OF THE BOARD, AND WHEREAS DESIROUS TO BE A FURTHER SERVICE TO FELLOW GOODSON RESIDENTS AFTER SERVING AS A MAGISTRATE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE FOR EIGHT YEARS, MR. NICHOLS RAN FOR AND WAS ELECTED TO THE GOODSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN 19 71, 19 75, 19 79, 19 83 AND 1987 REPRESENTING DISTRICT FOUR FOR 20 YEARS. 
          AND SERVING AS CHAIR OF THE BOARD IN 81 AND 82, WHEREAS LAWRENCE KNUCKLES CONTRIBUTED GREATLY TO THE ADVANCEMENT AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          MOST NOTABLY AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND AS A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER, WHO WAS WELL-KNOWN FOR HIS KINDNESS AND GENEROSITY AND EXHIBITED THE QUALITIES OF VISION AND LEADERSHIP THROUGHOUT HIS TENURE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL. 
          AND WHEREAS LAWRENCE KNUCKLES SERVED ON NUMEROUS COUNTY BOARDS DURING HIS TENURE ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. 
          AND WHEREAS LAWRENCE, NICHOLAS WAS A LIFETIME MEMBER OF THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY VOLUNTEER FIRE RESCUE ASSOCIATION, SERVING CENTERVILLE COMPANY THREE FOR OVER 30 YEARS. 
          AND WHEREAS LAWRENCE KNUCKLES ENJOYED FELLOWSHIP AND WORSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY AS A MEMBER OF ST. 
          MATTHEWS UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, SERVING IN MANY CHURCH LEADERSHIP ROLES. 
          AND WHEREAS LAWRENCE KNUCKLES WILL BE FONDLY REMEMBERED AND GREATLY MISSED BY HIS BELOVED WIFE AND ELLIS KNUCKLES, HIS CHILDREN, PENNY MINER, AND SANDY KNUCKLES AND THEIR FAMILIES AND NUMEROUS OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS. 
          NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, HEREBY NOTES WITH GREAT SADNESS, THE LOSS OF LAWRENCE KNUCKLES, A THOUGHTFUL MENTOR, GOOD FRIEND, AND RESPECTED PUBLIC SERVANT AND COMMUNITY LEADER IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVED THE GHOUTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SMITH AN HOUR. 
          THANK YOU, MISS LAST COLLETTE MOTION A SECOND. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          SNAP DID UNANIMOUS MR. JOHNSON, UH, AND SHE FERGUSON. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          IT'S MY HONOR TO INTRODUCE MY ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE, MR. JIMMY JOHNSON, FIRE RESCUE FIRE AND EMS DIRECTOR FOR CELLO CITY COUNTY. 
          WE'RE HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER. 
          AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE WORK TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS ACROSS THE REGION, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, CHIEF JOHNSON. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF FERGUSON, UM, CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND CITIZENS, UM, ON BEHALF OF CHARLES CITY COUNTY, THE, UM, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD, MR. GILBERT H SMITH, UM, VICE CHAIRMAN, MR. WILLIAM COTA AND MERMAID LODGE, MR. BARON ATKINS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MS. MICHELLE JOHNSON, THE CITIZENS OF CELLO CITY COUNTY. 
          AND OF COURSE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND CHARLES CITY COUNTY AND MYSELF, JIMMY JOHNSON. 
          WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR DONATION, THE CELLO CITY COUNTY FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, THAT TANGLED THAT WAS DONATED WITH CHIEF FERGUSON CANE. 
          IT COULDN'T HAVE CAME AT PERFECT TIMING CAUSE I ASKED, HAD JUST BROKEN DOWN AND WE BEAT THE ANOTHER ONE. 
          SO SHE FERGUSON, UM, WAS LOOKING OUT FOR CHELSEA TO COUNTY AND WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH AND JUST HAVE A LITTLE TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION FOR EACH ONE OF YOUR FACULTY COME UP THERE AND GIVE IT TO YOU. 
          YOU CAN HANDLE IT. 
          YOU CAN START THERE AND SHE CAN HAND IT DOWN MAYBE, OR IF YOU WANT TO, WHATEVER YOU PREFER. 
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YEAH. 
          GOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANKS. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANKS SIR. 
          YOU THANKS SIR. 
          TAKE JOHNSON. 
           CHIEF. 
          THANK YOU, CHIEF. 
          WE, WE WERE JUST DELIGHTED THAT IT WORKED OUT AND TO HEAR THAT IT'S PERFECT. 
          TIMING IS AWESOME. 
          IS IT, IS IT A HUNDRED PERCENT VOLUNTEER? I NOTICED IN ONE OF THE PAPERS THAT SAID THAT CHARLES CITY VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT IS, IS IT WHAT, WHAT 18, 2018, YOU WENT FROM ALL VOLUNTEER TO A PAINT DEPARTMENT AND YOU, DID YOU STILL HAVE A COMBINATION OF VOLUNTEERS AND PAID? YES. 
          YEP. 
          GOOD. 
          WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE GLAD, WE'RE GLAD TO DO IT. 
          AND THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY COMES UP AGAIN AND WE KNOW THAT FOLKS IN CHARLES CITY WHO ARE OUR WILL, WILL HELP US OUT IF WE EVER HAVE IT IN COMMUNITY, THE REGIONAL COOPERATION WILL BE THERE, BUT, UH, WE'VE GOT TO DO THIS. 
          YES, WE CAN'T HELP YOU. 
          WE WILL. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE ARE ROLLING RIGHT ALONG AND MOVING TO ROMAN NUMERAL 11 NEW BUSINESS. 
          UM, FIRST UP IS MR. JEREMY WRITES ALREADY 
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HELP HERE. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT RISE OR REGIONAL INTERNET SERVICE. 
          SO I'M GOING TO INVITE SOME GUEST TO COME UP IN JUST A MOMENT. 
          UM, BUT JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE, UM, TO LOOK BACK ON OUR JOURNEY ABOUT BROADBAND HERE IN THE COUNTY. 
          SO THIS WEEK IT WILL BE TWO YEARS SINCE THE COUNTY HAD LAUNCHED OUR RENEWED BROADBAND EFFORT. 
          AND IN THAT TIME WE HAVE ALONG WITH THE COUNTY AND OUR PARTNERS HAVE PURSUED OVER FIVE DIFFERENT GRANTS, UH, SO FAR TOWARDS BROADBAND AND I WAS COUNTING THEM UP AND I BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN, UH, THREE OUT OF THOSE FIVE. 
          SO FAR ONE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT, UH, THIS AFTERNOON. 
          AND SO, UH, I'M GOING, I'M EXCITED TO HAVE OUR FRIENDS FROM FIREFLY FIBER BROADBAND, A SUBSIDIARY OF CENTRAL VIRGINIA ELECTRIC. 
          CO-OP HERE TO JOIN US TO GIVE OUR PRESENTATION ON THE REGIONAL INTERNET SERVICE EXPANSION PROJECT. 
          UH, WE'VE BEEN PARTNERS WITH FIREFLY AND SINT, VIRGINIA ELECTRIC CO-OP FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS BACK WHEN WE ANNOUNCED THAT RENEWED, UH, EFFORT TOWARDS BROADBAND, THEY WERE THERE AS PART OF OUR PARTNERS. 
          UM, AND THEY ARE ONE OF MANY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TO TACKLE BROADBAND IN GOOCHLAND. 
          THE OTHER ONE'S PORT 80 INTERNET SERVICES. 
          THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL. 
          THEY'RE WORKING IN THE EASTERN END. 
          COMCAST WORKS WITH US AND WE, WE ARE TACKLE HOME BY HOME THERE, BUT WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL TO HAVE A PARTNER IN FIREFLY. 
          AND SO I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE CEO. 
          GARY WOULD COME ON UP AND NOT HIM, UH, GIVE US MORE INFORMATION ON THEIR PROJECT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          GREAT. 
          WELL, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A CHANCE TO COME AND TALK TODAY. 
          AND, UH, MELISSA GAYE, OUR COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER AT, UH, CENTRAL VIRGINIA ELECTRIC, WHO DOES DUAL DUTY OVER AT FIREFLY AS WELL, UH, IS WITH ME DAY IN, UH, I THINK SEVERAL OTHERS ARE PROBABLY WATCHING ONLINE. 
          UM, I WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PROJECT, BUT LET ME GIVE YOU JUST A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA ELECTRIC FIBER BUILD. 
          UH, BECAUSE WE COMMITTED THAT SEVERAL YEARS AGO. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME FOLKS NOW IN GOOCHLAND WHO ARE CONNECTED, UH, FROM DOWN ACROSS THE RIVER CARTERSVILLE. 
          UM, WE COMPLETED THAT RIVER CROSSING ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO, AND WE'VE GOT PEOPLE CONNECTED IN GOOCHLAND OFF OF THAT. 
          WE HAVE ALSO, UM, SHIFTED OUR SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT AND THE SHANNON HILL, UH, SUBSTATION, WHICH WAS GOING TO BE BUILT, UM, STARTING EARLY NEXT YEAR WILL BE BUILT LATE THIS YEAR. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO GET IN A LITTLE SOONER. 
          UM, IF I HAD TO GUESS IT MAY BE LATE OCTOBER, NOVEMBER WHEN WE'RE DOWN IN STARTING THAT THAT MEANS PEOPLE BE CONNECTED THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR, BUT WE'LL BE IN AND YOU'LL START SEEING THE FIBER GOING UP AND THINGS GETTING CONNECTED AND WE'LL, UM, GET EVERYBODY CONNECTED, UH, QUICKLY OFF OF THAT. 
          SO THAT THAT'S A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA SITE. 
          FIREFLY CAN ALSO DO BUSINESS OUTSIDE OF THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA, UH, TERRITORY FOOTPRINT. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT TODAY. 
          WE'VE GOT A BIG PROJECT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH GOOCHLAND AND A NUMBER OF OTHER COUNTIES. 
          IT ACTUALLY INCLUDES 13, UM, PARTS OF 13 COUNTIES NOW. 
          AND WHEN 
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THIS IS FINISHED ALONG WITH, UH, THERE ARE THREE COUNTIES WHERE THERE'LL BE OTHER ISP, THAT'LL BE DOING PART OF THE COUNTY, UH, FIREFLY IS DOING IT, UM, WITH JUST THE COUNTY AND 10 OUT OF THE 13, I TRIED TO GET MY MATH, RIGHT, UM, WHERE WE'LL HAVE UNIVERSAL SERVICE SO THAT EVERY HOME WILL HAVE AT LEAST THE SERVICE THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF WHETHER STANDARD OF BROADBAND FOR, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WHICH 25 MEGABIT PER SECOND, DOWNLOAD THREE MEGABIT PER SECOND, UPLOAD ANYONE WHO HAS FIREFLY SERVICE WILL HAVE GIGABIT SPEED SERVICE AND ALL OF THOSE COUNTIES, BUT, UH, WE'LL HAVE FUNDING AND MAKE SURE WE GET EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST THAT LEVEL OF BROADBAND AND ALL OF THOSE COUNTIES, GOOCHLAND COUNTY AND SPECIFIC HERE'S, UH, THE PROJECT AND HOW IT WORKS OUT IN GOOCHLAND. 
          AND THERE, UM, A COUPLE OF POINTS TO LOOK AT HERE. 
          UM, AND THAT THIS DOESN'T ACTUALLY QUITE FULLY CAPTURED. 
          I APOLOGIZE THAT, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE LITTLE PIECES I'LL, I'LL FILL IN. 
          UM, THE YELLOW, UH, COLORS ARE THE, UH, AREAS WHERE WE RECEIVED SOME CONNECT AMERICA FUND FUNDING. 
          AND, UM, NO, I GUESS IT DOES COVER IT. 
          AND IT ALSO, UH, OUR RECONNECT PROJECT. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE FCC FUNDING FROM CONNECT AMERICA FUND. 
          THEN USDA, WE HAVE A RECONNECT GRANT. 
          THOSE ARE BOTH YELLOW BECAUSE THEY'RE FEDERALLY FUNDED. 
          THE DARK BLUE IS THE AREA THAT CENTRAL VIRGINIA ELECTRIC'S ALREADY GOING TO BUILD. 
          THE LIGHT BLUE IS WHAT'S COVERED IN THIS PROJECT. 
          WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT THROUGH A COMBINATION OF FIELD SURVEYS, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND THEN DOING, UM, OUR OWN SURVEY IS IDENTIFY ANY GROUP OF HOMES THAT DOES NOT HAVE BROADBAND TODAY AND INCLUDE THEM. 
          THERE ARE A FEW ONESY TWOSIES, UM, THAT ARE BEYOND THIS, WHERE THERE ARE LONG EXTENSIONS OFF OF COMCAST. 
          THE, UH, AS A LITTLE ASIDE, THE STATE HAS DEVELOPED A NEW PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE CALLING THE LONG EXTENSION PROGRAM THROUGH DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          THAT'LL ROLL OUT NEXT YEAR IN THE SPRING. 
          AND THEY HAVE ASKED US TO NOT INCLUDE AREAS WHERE THERE'S ONE OR TWO THAT JUST HAVE BEEN GIVEN A REALLY HIGH PRICE FOR AN EXTENSION FROM COMCAST, BUT INSTEAD TO USE THAT PROGRAM TO GET THOSE FOLKS CONNECTED. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT GROUPS OF, UM, SEVERAL HOMES TO, YOU KNOW, MANY HOMES BEING CONNECTED. 
          I WILL GIVE YOU MY PLEDGE THAT IF THE LONG EXTENSION PROGRAM DOESN'T WORK OUT, WE'LL COME BACK AND CATCH THOSE FOLKS BECAUSE WE THINK EVERYBODY NEEDS TO HAVE INTERNET ACCESS. 
          BUT, UH, OUT OF OUR SURVEY, I WOULD SAY THERE WERE PROBABLY 15 OR SO HOMES THAT ARE NOT SPECIFICALLY COVERED HERE THAT WERE SPOTTED ONE YEAR TWO THERE, UM, THAT HAVE COMCAST ALL AROUND THEM, BUT AREN'T CONNECTED. 
          SO WE'LL MAKE SURE AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY TO PUBLICIZE THAT PROGRAM AND TRY TO PUSH IT AND MAKE SURE IT WORKS NEXT YEAR. 
          IF NOT, WE'LL GO BACK AND FIND A WAY TO GET THOSE FOLKS CONNECTED. 
          WE DO HAVE ALL THE FOLKS HERE PLANNED, UM, AND LET ME TOUCH ON THAT SURVEY. 
          UH, REAL QUICKLY, WE HAD 716 RESPONSES FROM GOOCHLAND COUNTY OUT OF ABOUT 47 TOTAL. 
          WE HAD THE THIRD, MOST OUT OF 13 COUNTIES OR FROM GOODSON AND FOR COMPARISON, UH, AL MALL, WHICH HAS ABOUT 50,000 HOUSEHOLDS HAD 800. 
          SO YOU GUYS HAVE ABOUT 12,000 HOUSEHOLDS. 
          YOU HAD 716. 
          THAT MEANS THEY DID REALLY WELL. 
          UH, THE ONLY OTHER ONE WITH A FEW MORE WAS, UH, LOUISA COUNTY LOUISA HAS ABOUT, UM, 20,000 HOUSEHOLDS AND HAS PROBABLY THE SMALLEST FOOTPRINT OF COVERAGE OUT OF ALL. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE MAYBE A COUPLE OF THOUSAND OF THOSE HOMES THAT HAVE INTERNET SERVICE. 
          SO WE HAD ABOUT A THOUSAND RESPONSES FROM, FROM LOUISA, BUT, UH, GOOCHLAND RESIDENTS DID REALLY WELL. 
          SO WE FEEL LIKE WE GOT GOOD COVERAGE OUT OF THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE PARTNERS DOWN HERE WILL BE WORKING WITH DOMINION USING THEIR MIDDLE MILE PROGRAM. 
          UM, THEY HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE THEY WILL BUILD A FIBER DOWN THE MIDDLE, UH, OF THEIR MAJOR THREE-PHASE LINES AND LARGE TAPS AND LEASE IT TO FIREFLY. 
          THEN FIREFLY WE'LL DO EXTENSIONS OFF OF THAT TO CONNECT HOMES OR TO GO DOWN TO SHORTER LATERALS. 
          UM, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH RAPPAHANNOCK ELECTRIC IN THAT CASE, FIREFLY, WE'LL BE HELPING GUIDE THE, UH, INSTALLATION AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIBER BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE WITH CVC AND WE'LL WORK WITH THEM, JUST LIKE WE WORK WITH THE PARENT COMPANY CVC WE'LL LEASE THE FIBER FROM THEM. 
          THEY'LL OWN ALL THE FIBER, BUT FIREFLY WE'LL LEASE IT ALL AND RUN THE, UH, RETAIL INTERNET SERVICE AND DO ALL THE MAINTENANCE ON THE FIBER. 
          THEN, 
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UM, GOOCHLAND COUNTY AND THE THOMAS JEFFERSON PLANNING DISTRICT. 
          AND THE REASON WE CHOSE THE PLANNING DISTRICT IS BECAUSE OF THE REGIONAL NATURE OF THE PROJECT WITH MULTIPLE CANNONS GOING TOGETHER, WE WANTED THE REGIONAL GROUP TO BE THE, THE MAIN APPLICANT FOR THE PROJECT. 
          UM, THE WAY THIS WILL WORK, UH, MORE DETAILED THAN YOU PROBABLY CARE TO KNOW, BUT, UH, THOMAS JEFFERSON PLANNING DISTRICT WILL, UH, TAKE ALL OF OUR INVOICES AND REQUESTS FOR PAYMENT. 
          AND THEN THEY'LL GO TO THE STATE AND ASK FOR THE BODY FUNDS THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE PART THAT WE'VE FINISHED. 
          SO IF WE DO THIS MONTHLY, QUARTERLY, THEN THEY WOULD ALSO BUILD GOOCHLAND AND SAY, IN GOOCHLAND, THIS MUSTARD WAS BUILT. 
          HERE'S YOUR SHARE. 
          AND PLEASE REMIT THIS TO THE TOWNSHIP AND PLANNING DISTRICT WILL THEN PAY US. 
          SO THAT'S THE WAY THAT, THAT, THAT WORKS. 
          THAT DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          IT RUNS EVERYTHING THROUGH ONE CENTRAL POINT. 
          IT ALSO GIVES US A PATH THROUGH A GOVERNMENT AGENCY THAT IS ABLE TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF GRANT AND WORK WITH A PRIVATE COMPANY LOCALLY. 
          IF YOU DO THAT, YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH THE EDA OR SOME FOLKS HAVE A BROADBAND AUTHORITY BECAUSE BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS CAN'T DIRECTLY FUND PRIVATE COMPANIES AGAIN, MORE DETAILED IN THE CARE. 
          NO, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING IT THE WAY WE'RE DOING IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          HERE'S THE IMPORTANT PIECE. 
          UH, THE NUMBER OF, UH, PASSINGS THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED ARE 2,765 UNSERVED LOCATIONS. 
          UH, WE WILL BE BUILDING 276 MILES OF FIBER. 
          IT'S A TOTAL PROJECT COST OF A LITTLE OVER $25 MILLION. 
          THERE'LL BE PUT INTO THE, UH, FIBER PLANT IN THE COUNTY HERE, DOMINION, RAP, PANIC, AND FIREFLY WILL CARRY 17 AND A HALF MILLION OF THAT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO ASK FOR BODY TO FUND ABOUT 4 MILLION. 
          UM, AND THEN THE COUNTER REQUEST IS 3 MILLION, $637,500. 
          UM, AND THAT NUMBER COMES FROM, UH, IT'S $1,500 TIMES THE NUMBER OF UNSERVED PASSINGS. 
          UM, WITH THAT IT'S A THREE-YEAR PROJECT. 
          UH, WE WILL START, UM, AS, AS SOON AS WE'RE ABLE, AND, AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF POINTS THERE. 
          UM, DOMINION HAS ALREADY ASKED US, UH, AS SOON AS WE DEFINE THOSE ROUTES, THEY CAN'T DO ANY, UH, FIBER AND PLACEMENT THE FINAL PLACEMENT AND TURNING IT OVER TO US UNTIL AFTER THEY GET APPROVAL OF THE STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION, THEIR PROGRAM IS REGULATED AND THEY HAVE TO ASK FOR THAT THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, BUT THEY CAN BEGIN BY DOING ALL OF THE FIELD WORK. 
          UH, THEY GET NEW EASEMENTS ON EVERY PROPERTY THEY CROSS THEY'VE ASKED US FOR TWO OR THREE LOCATIONS TO START, AND WE'VE TOLD THEM GOOCHLAND ONE. 
          SO WHEN THEY GET STARTED, THEY'LL START THAT WORK HERE PROBABLY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WITH PLANNING OF, OF THE CONSTRUCTION THAT WOULD GO THROUGH GOOCHLAND AND, AND STARTING TO CONTACT PEOPLE ABOUT SURVEYS OR EASEMENTS OR THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. 
          UM, SO THAT'S THE BACKGROUND WORK THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE WE GET THE FIBER UP ON THE DOMINION SIDE ON THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA SIDE, WE'RE HOPING THAT THE RECONNECT GRANT, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN APPROVED, THAT WE CHECK OUT THE LAST COUPLE OF BOXES. 
          WE NEED TO, TO GET THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, TO ALLOW US TO START CONSTRUCTION. 
          UH, SOMETIME MAYBE IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SIX WEEKS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM NOW FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, I WOULD TELL YOU, WE'D BE READY TO START THIS WEEK IF THEY'D LET US, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS WE HAD TO GET A STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION APPROVAL ALSO, UM, FOR A PARENT COMPANY GUARANTEE AND A COUPLE OF THINGS WHERE YOU JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES. 
          SO WE'RE HOPING THAT SOON YOU WILL SEE WORK ON THE RECONNECT GRANT FROM FIREFLY THAT, UM, WITH THE DOMINION PIECE OF THIS PROJECT, YOU'LL START SEEING SOME THINGS. 
          AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TALK WITH COUNTY STAFF ABOUT SOME THINGS WE COULD DO EVEN TO, TO GET SOME PEOPLE CONNECTED, UM, BY EXTENDING OFF THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA SERVICES AND A COUPLE OF AREAS, UH, MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE SOONER, INSTEAD OF PUSHING EVERYTHING BACK TO LATE LAST YEAR, WE'RE DOING THAT PARTLY BECAUSE GOOGLE HAS BEEN A GOOD PARTNER. 
          UM, AND BECAUSE WE WANT TO GET DOWN HERE AND GET THINGS WRAPPED UP, WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF WORK TO DO THE NEXT THREE YEARS. 
          UM, GOOCHLAND ALSO HAS THE ADVANTAGE OF BEING FURTHER EAST IN OUR, AND YOUR SOILS ARE A LITTLE BETTER. 
          WE'RE GOING TO DO A LOT OF UNDERGROUND WORK HERE. 
          AND THOSE UNDERGROUND CREWS CAN'T DO SO MUCH WORK UP IN NELSON CANYON IN THE MOUNTAINS. 
          IT GETS REALLY EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THAT ROCK. 
          UM, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET CREWS, THAT'LL STAY HERE AND STAY THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT. 
          UM, AND, UH, THAT'LL KEEP US MOVING ON IT AND GET IT WRAPPED UP HOPEFULLY, UH, BEFORE THE THREE YEARS IS OVER. 
          BUT WE'RE TELLING EVERYBODY TO ANTICIPATE THE THREE-YEAR TIMEFRAME BECAUSE WE'D RATHER PROMISE YOU THAT AND OVER DELIVER THAN THE OTHER WAY. 
          HERE'S OUR TIMELINE NEXT WEEK, THE APPLICATION IS DUE. 
          AND, UH, 
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SO WE'VE WAITED, UH, TO THE BOARD MEETING BEFORE THE APPLICATION TO ASK YOU TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION. 
          UH, WE'RE WORKING HARD ON THE APPLICATION. 
          WE'VE GOT A DRAFT PUT TOGETHER, ALL THE PIECES AND PARTS AND OUR, UH, STAFF IS FEVEROUSLY WORKING ON IT, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON THEY'RE NOT HERE. 
          THEY SHOULD BE WATCHING THIS ON ONE MONITOR AND EDITING THEIR APPLICATION ON THE OTHER, UH, IN DECEMBER VALLEY WILL MAKE THEIR ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          UM, THEN IN JANUARY, DOMINION WILL FILE FOR THEIR APPROVAL FROM STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION CONSTRUCTION. 
          GENERALLY ON THIS PROJECT WILL START IN 2022. 
          AS I SAY, WE'LL, WE'LL START REALLY SOME OF THAT BACKGROUND WORK EARLIER. 
          AND IF THERE'S A WAY TO START CONSTRUCTION EARLIER, AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO DO THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GET IN AND START AS SOON AS WE CAN. 
          UM, UH, CAUTION, UH, FOR ANYBODY HERE OR WATCHING ONLINE IS FROM THE DAY THOSE FIRST TRUCK SHOW UP IN YOUR DRIVEWAY. 
          YOU'RE ABOUT SIX OR EIGHT MONTHS FROM ACTUALLY GETTING FIBER CONNECTED. 
          UH, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN THEY FIRST SEE THE CONTRACTORS IN THE AREA, THEY THINK, OKAY, GREAT. 
          HE'S BRINGING ME FIBER. 
          I SHOULD GET A CALL NEXT WEEK. 
          AND THEN WHEN THE FIRST PEOPLE COME ALONG TO WORK ON THE POLES, THEY SAY, OH, THE PEOPLE ARE WORKING ON THE POLES. 
          I SAW THEM MOVING A TRANSFORMER. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO CONNECT ME NEXT WEEK. 
          AND THAT THAT'S JUST RELOCATING THINGS. 
          AND THEN FIBER CREWS HAVE TO COME THROUGH. 
          SAME THING HAPPENS WITH FIBER, AND THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE SPLICERS. 
          SO IT'S A, IT'S A PROCESS. 
          AND IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE WE WILL COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THAT. 
          AS WE MOVE INTO AN AREA, WE HAVE A GOOD COMMUNICATIONS PROGRAM THAT MELISSA SET UP AND, UH, HER AND HER TEAM RUN VERY WELL. 
          WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE COMING, WE'LL LET YOU KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE. 
          AND WHAT TYPE OF TRUCKS AND WHAT TYPE OF WORK THEY'RE DOING, WE'LL REMIND YOU OF THE OVERALL TIMELINE. 
          AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE WHAT'S GOING ON THROUGHOUT ALL THE STEPS. 
          SO WITH THAT, WE HAD A, UH, A TEMPLATE FOR RESOLUTION. 
          I THINK THE STAFF HAS, UH, LOOKED AT THIS AND, AND, UH, MAY HAVE EVEN TWEAKED IT. 
          SO I'M SURE YOU HAVE YOUR OWN RESOLUTION, BUT I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE QUESTIONS AFTER THAT QUICK RUN-THROUGH OF A BIG BUT VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. WADE. 
          APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THE DETAIL. 
          I DON'T KNOW YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GIVE THIS GROUP TOO MUCH DETAIL. 
          SO IT WAS GOOD TO HEAR ABOUT THE THOMAS JEFFERSON AND PDC. 
          ALL OF THAT, THAT ACTUALLY HELPED HELP ME, BUT I WILL ASK THE BOARD QUESTIONS OF MR. WOOD WITH THIS GENTLEMAN, AS YOU HEARD THE KEY TODAY, THE KEY TODAY IS TO, UH, APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION TO, TO COMMIT TO, UH, THE FUNDING SO THEY CAN ADD THAT TO THE APPLICATION. 
          NEXT WEEK, PAGE PAGE 1 25 IN OUR PACKET IS THE RESOLUTION. 
          UM, SO, UH, THANK YOU. 
          SO I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, AND YOU SAID, SO THEY CAN COME. 
          SO COMMIT TO THE FUNDING. 
          AND I NOTICED AN EARLIER IN OUR PACKET BEFORE THIS RESOLUTION, NO MONEY IS BEING APPROPRIATED RIGHT NOW, BUT WE ARE COMMITTING, UH, ACCORDING TO THIS RESOLUTION AND YOUR SLIDE TWO WAS HELPFUL. 
          IT SAID RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST APPROVING OUR PARTICIPATION IN THE APPLICATION. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S JUST THE GIST OF THIS, BUT IT DOES SAY THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA, UH, WELL, WHEREAS, UH, GOODSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FULLY SUPPORTS AND WILL PARTICIPATE IN THE RISE PROJECT AND ASSOCIATED 20, 22 VERY BROAD BAND GRANT APPLICATION, INCLUDING PROVIDING LOCAL MATCH FUNDING, NOT TO EXCEED 3 MILLION, SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN, FIVE HUNDRED. 
          SO I GOT THAT. 
          UM, W HOW, HOW WILL WE, HOW, JUST SO WE KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT, HOW WILL WE BE APPROPRIATING? DO WE EXPECT THAT WHEN THAT BILL COMES FROM THE PDC, THAT WE WILL THEN APPROPRIATE EACH TIME WE GET A BILL, WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR THAT, MR. DRUMRIGHT? SO THE PLAN WOULD BE, AGAIN, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION TO COMMIT TO THIS PROJECT, COMMIT TO PARTICIPATING, COMMIT TO SO THAT THEY CAN PUT OUR NAME INTO THEIR APPLICATION WHEN IT COMES TIME, UH, AS YOU RECALL, WHAT WE DID WITH THE, THE VADI PROJECT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY UNDERGOING RIGHT NOW. 
          SO WHEN, ONCE WE GET A SUCCESSFUL, WHEN WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO GET A SUCCESSFUL, UH, AWARD WE'LL, THEY'LL COME BACK TO THE THOMAS JEFFERSON PLANNING DISTRICT WILL BE THE ONES DOING A CONTRACT WITH THE STATE WITH FIREFLY WILL BE A PARTY TO THAT CONTRACT. 
          AND THAT'S WHEN WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT APPROPRIATING THOSE FUNDS, AND THEN WE WILL PAY THOSE OUT. 
          AS WE GET INVOICED FROM THE TOP OF THE PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION AS WORK IS COMMENCED ON THAT PROJECT. 
          SO IF WE WILL GET INVOICED AT THAT TIME, SO WE'LL BE COME BACK IN A FUTURE MEETING, ASKING THE BOARD TO APPROPRIATE THAT WHEN WE KNOW WE'VE GOTTEN A SUCCESSFUL AWARD RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST ASKING YOU TO, UH, SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO COMMIT TO IT. 
          YEP. 
          WELL, WE'RE MAKING THE COMMITMENT. 
          I GOT IT. 
          SO MR. WOOD, YOU SAID 1500 PER UNSERVED, AND THIS MIGHT BE, 
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DON'T GO TOO FAR WHERE YOU SAID 1500 UNSERVED, $1,500 TIMES. 
          THE NUMBER OF UNSERVED LOCATIONS, OUR RESOLUTION HAS 2,765 LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTY AS BEING UNSERVED FOR MATH. 
          FOR THAT 1500 TIMES 27 65 COMES UP TO 4.1 MILLION, BUT THEN WE TAKE OFF THE PIECE THAT YOU HAVE BOUGHT. 
          YOU'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO RECONNECT. 
          WE COUNT THAT TOWARDS THAT FIRST PIECE, UH, BECAUSE IT ALREADY BEEN A, UH, COUNTY COMMITMENT TO HELP OFFSET OUR COSTS WITH RECONNECT. 
          AND SO WE'RE CREDITING THAT AS PART OF WHAT WE'RE ASKING THE COUNTY TO GIVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO YOU'VE DOUBLE CHECKED. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THE NUMBERS, OUR RESOLUTION, YES, SIR. 
          DOUBLE AND TRIPLE CHECKED. 
          YES, SIR. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BOARD MEMBERS? I DO MISS CHAIRMAN, UH, AND THIS WOULD BE A QUESTION MAYBE FOR OUR FINANCE FOLKS THAT JUST WANT TO BE SURE. 
          SO WE'RE SAYING 3 MILLION, 3 MILLION, 437,566, NO, 3 MILLION, 3 MILLION, 437,500 WILL COME FROM THE COUNTY'S AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FUNDS. 
          RIGHT? SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS IF THIS IS ENDS UP BEING THREE YEARS, WE ARE STILL WITHIN OUR TIMEFRAME TO USE AMERICAN RESCUE FUNDS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WE'VE GOT THE LEEWAY, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO RUN OUT THE TIME. 
          DEADLINE IS NOT GOING TO RUN OUT MIDWAY IN THIS PROJECT. 
          WAIT A MINUTE. 
          SO JUST, JUST SO IT'S CONTRACT DIRECTOR OF FINANCE. 
          I WANT TO BE SURE WE'VE GOT THIS ALL COVERED BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THIS MONEY'S JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE EARLIER SAID YES TO YOUR EARLIER QUESTION. 
          SO LET'S CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OH, NO PROBLEM. 
          UM, WE RECEIVED THE FIRST HALF OF THE FUNDS IN MAY OF THIS YEAR. 
          WE'LL RECEIVE THE SECOND HALF OF THE FUNDS NEXT BAY. 
          UM, WE HAVE AMPLE TIME TO SPEND THIS. 
          THIS ARE, WE HAVE THROUGH 26, SO THEY'RE AT 25. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          I JUST WANT TO BE SURE BECAUSE THAT'S, WHAT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE SAYING THIS MONEY'S COMING FROM THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND THANK YOU. 
          AND YOU'RE CORRECT. 
          3, 3, 3 0.4, BUT TH TH THE 200,000. 
          YEAH. 
          SO OUR HUMBLE DISTRICT, ONE SUPERVISOR FOR, FOR EVERYBODY FOLLOWING ALONG, EVERYBODY FOLLOWING ALONG AT HOME, WE, AS PART OF THE RECONNECT, UH, OUR PROJECT PLEDGED A $200,000 MATCH UP TO $200,000 MATCH UPON A SUCCESSFUL AWARD, UH, WAY BACK IN APRIL OF 2020, AND IT'S BEEN A LONG, STRANGE ROAD, BUT SO WE WERE FINALLY GETTING TO THAT PIECE. 
          BUT SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN HERE. 
          WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE FUNDS SET ASIDE ALREADY. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY THE, THE AMOUNT IN THE, UH, AGENDA ITEM IS 3 MILLION, $437,500. 
          YEAH. 
          GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TRUST ME THAT WE HAVE GONE OVER THE NUMBERS SEVERAL TIMES. 
          SEVERAL TIMES WE HAD, WE HAD, UH, UH, SEVERAL, UH, ZOOM CALLS AND THINGS. 
          SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT NUMBER. 
          WE'LL BUILD A PLAN TO HAVE IT ON THE RECORD. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, MR. SPOON, HOW DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I DO SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP. 
          IS IT, CAN WE SAY AT THE END OF THIS PROJECT WITH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAYBE SOME LONG DRIVEWAYS THAT EVERYBODY IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY THAT WANTS INTERNET SERVICE WILL BE, WILL HAVE INTERNET SERVICE? YES, THAT'S MY SHORT ANSWER. 
          UH, AND, AND BY THE WAY, FOR OUR PROJECT, WE WILL EXTEND UP TO 2,500 FEET OFF THE MAIN BACKBONE, UM, TO GET A CONNECTION. 
          AND IF YOU'RE LOW OR MODERATE INCOME, WE'LL GO AS FAR AS WE NEED TO, WE DON'T HAVE A LIMIT. 
          UM, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PAY, ONCE YOU GET OVER TO 20, OVER 2,500 FEET, WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO PAY, UH, THE COST FOR THE DITCH, WHICH IS ABOUT A DOLLAR 10 TO A DOLLAR 25, A FOOT BEYOND THAT. 
          SO WOULD YOU SAY EVERYBODY, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. 
          SO OTHER THAN THOSE ONESIES, TWOSIES OUT THERE, OR SOMEBODY WHO IS TOTALLY SIPPED TO THEIR CRACK, WE SHOULD HAVE THE MAJORITY OF THIS COUNTY, THE ALMOST THE ENTIRE COUNTY COVERED. 
          AND, UM, AS HE MENTIONED ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL PROJECT COMING THROUGH FROM THE STATE, WE'LL START TAKING THOSE. 
          IF WE FIND THOSE, WE WANT TO START KNOWING WHERE THOSE DRESSES ARE PUT ON THE LIST, MAKE SURE WE CAN EITHER WORK WITH FIREFLY OR ONE OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS, AS I MENTIONED, FOUR TO 80 COMCAST, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN OFFER INTERNET TO EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY. 
          WE CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT THEY'LL TAKE IT, BUT WE'LL MAKE AN OFFER YOU. 
          YES. 
          MS. JARRETT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, 
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YOU MENTIONED THE TOTAL COST OF THE PROJECT OF 25,220,000. 
          UM, YEAH, THERE YOU GO. 
          225 MILLION OR SO, UM, GOING BACK YEARS AGO, THERE WAS SOME SUGGESTION THAT MAYBE THE COUNTY SHOULD SPEND THAT MONEY AND DO THIS. 
          SO I'M GLAD THAT YOU'VE GUYS HAVE STEPPED UP AND DONE IT INSTEAD. 
          BUT, UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          BUT MY REAL QUESTION ON THAT IS, UH, THIS IS A THREE TO FOUR YEAR PROJECT. 
          SO WE'VE ASKED FOR THREE-YEAR TIMEFRAME FROM THE, UH, IN THE VIRGINIA TELECOMMUNICATIONS INITIATIVE GRANT. 
          THEY NORMALLY, UM, FUND PROJECTS THAT GO 18 MONTHS, BUT THEY DO HAVE ALLOWANCE FOR LONGER PROJECTS, UM, THAT ARE LARGER. 
          AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR 36 MONTHS WINDOW, AND WE INTEND TO FINISH IT IN 36 HOURS. 
          SO HOW SQUISHY THEN IS THAT NUMBER? THE 25.22 MILLION, GIVEN THAT IT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT AND WE HAVEN'T STARTED YET. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS HERE, AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          UM, W W WE, WE HAVEN'T PADDED THE NUMBERS, SO THAT IT'S WAY HIGH. 
          WE HAVE ANTICIPATED THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE, UH, INCREASE IN COSTS FOR MATERIALS, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TO SEE IT. 
          WE'VE SEEN SOME MATERIAL TO JUMP 50%. 
          UH, WE HAVE ANTICIPATED A 10% INCREASE IN LABOR BECAUSE, UH, THE LAST FEW YEARS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP LABOR COSTS REALLY FLAT FROM THE CONTRACTORS, BUT WE KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE PRESSURE WITH THE NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO ARE TRYING TO DO THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY, UH, AND TRYING TO BUILD FIBER. 
          SO WE BUILT IN ENOUGH ROOM THAT I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY DOABLE WITHIN THAT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO DO IT CHEAPER IF WE DO IT CHEAPER, YOURS IS A MATCH. 
          SO IF YOURS IS GETTING THE SECOND PART OF MY QUESTION, THERE YOU GO. 
          SO 3.6 MILLION, WHATEVER THAT PERCENTAGE IS, IS THE PERCENTAGE. 
          AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT YOU'LL BE BUILT WHEN WE FINISHED THE FIRST $2 MILLION, YOU'LL GET WHATEVER YOUR PERCENTAGE IS OF THAT WILL BE BILLED. 
          AND IF WE CAN DO IT CHEAPER THAN YOU'LL HAVE LESS FUNDING, I THINK WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT. 
          WELL, I WAS ASKING THEM BOTH BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WHERE WE'RE LOCKED IN, WE ARE BUILDING THIS, OUR COMMITMENT AND BODY REQUIRES AS PART OF THEIR CONTRACT WITH THOMAS JEFFERSON PLAN DISTRICT THAT WILL COME THROUGH TO US. 
          IF THEY FUND THIS, THIS PROJECT GETS BUILT REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE COST IS FOR OUR SIDE. 
          NOW, I SAY, REGARDLESS, IF THEY FIND OUT THAT FIBER IS ALL OF A SUDDEN GLASS, UH, GOLD, UH, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT THERE MAY BE, BUT, UH, WE, WE INTEND TO BUILD IT. 
          UH, WE'VE TAKEN THE LAST FOUR YEARS TO BUILD 4,000 MILES ON THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA ELECTRIC SYSTEM. 
          UH, THE COST HAS GONE UP A LITTLE BIT. 
          UH, WE'VE DONE SOME THINGS TO MANAGE THAT, AND WE'RE COMPLETING THE SYSTEM, UM, A YEAR AHEAD OF THE ORIGINAL SCHEDULE. 
          I'M NOT SURE WE CAN COMPRESS THE SCHEDULE THAT MUCH MORE ON THIS BECAUSE WE'VE TAKEN THOSE TECHNIQUES AND BUILT INTO THIS. 
          SO THE SCHEDULE IS PRETTY CLOSE, BUT, UM, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE BUDGET WE HAVE AND COMMITTING TO THE PROJECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, CAUSE AS THIS RESOLUTION IS WORDED, UM, OUR MATCHES NOT TO EXCEED. 
          SO IF THERE WERE COST OVERRUNS, MY QUESTION IS THEN WHAT HAPPENS? AND YOU'RE COMFORTABLE. 
          THERE WON'T BE ANY, THEN FIREFALL FLY DOMINION AND RAPPAHANNOCK PITCH TOGETHER AND GET IT BUILT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE RECORDING IS WORKING. 
          RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SHARP, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, I'VE BEEN THROUGH IT AND ALL THE PHONE CALLS. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. WOULD GO. 
          I KNOW WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND. 
          WE HAVE A RESOLUTION. 
          I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT IT SAYS THAT THE MAN HAS BEEN CHECKED AND CHECKED AND CHECKED. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SO, UH, CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION SUPPORTING AND AUTHORIZING PARTICIPATION IN FIREFI FIBER BROADBAND'S REGIONAL INTERNET SERVICE EXPANSION PROJECT, AND THE ASSOCIATED 2022 VIRGINIA TELECOMMUNICATION INITIATIVE, BROADBAND BROADBAND GRANT APPLICATION BY THE THOMAS JEFFERSON PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION, INCLUDING PROVIDING LOCAL MATCH FUNDING. 
          SECOND, THANK YOU BOTH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I HEARD SOMETHING, I THINK W CAN WE FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET MR. ALVAREZ TO GET A VOTE ON THIS RECORD REFLECTS THAT I AM HERE TODAY. 
          I BELIEVE HE HAS TO SIGN THE RESOLUTION. 
          SO HE HE'LL BE SIGNING THE RESOLUTION THAT'S EVEN BETTER. 
          THAT'S EVEN BETTER. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT, THAT IS PART OF THE MOTION THAT WE AUTHORIZED THE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO SIGN IT. 
          SO THAT'S PRETTY COOL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND. 
          WOULD YOU MIND DOING A ROLL CALL? VOTE ON THIS ONE PLEASE? MR. SPOONFLOWER. 
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YES. 
          AMEN AND ALESIA. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          YES. 
          UH, MR. SHARP. 
          YES. 
          MR. PETERSON? YES. 
          CHAIRMAN LUMPKINS. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          IT'S UNANIMOUS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THANK YOU, MR. WOOD. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          I'M GOING TO GO TO WORK, MAN. 
          YOU CAN USE A FIRE TRUCK STANDING OUTSIDE FOR, YES. 
          [2. 4120: Introduction to 2021 Redistricting Process]
ALL RIGHT. 
          NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS INTRODUCTION TO THE 2021 REDISTRICTING PROCESS. 
          MR. MCGEE. 
          YES. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ALVAREZ. 
          I AM COUNTY ATTORNEY TARA MCGEE. 
          AND I'M BEFORE YOU FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES THIS AFTERNOON, TO GIVE AN INTRODUCTION TO THE 2021 REDISTRICTING PROCESS. 
          UM, THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE KNOWN SOME ABOUT THIS AS, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR, AS WE WERE WAITING ON DATA AND SO FORTH, BUT WE HADN'T YET ADVISED OUR RESIDENTS AND THE PUBLIC, WHAT WE EXPECT. 
          UM, AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO, WE WANT TO GET THAT TODAY. 
          WE START OF COURSE, THREE DISTRICT IN WITH THE CENSUS, THE CONSTITUTIONAL REQUIREMENT THAT A CALCULATION OF POPULATION BE DONE EVERY 10 YEARS. 
          AND WE'RE CURRENTLY AWAITING THE COMPLETED DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED BY THE CENSUS BUREAU DURING THE 2020 DECENNIAL CENSUS. 
          I SAY, WE'RE WAITING ON THE COMPLETED DATA. 
          THERE WERE SOME INITIAL DATA AVAILABLE IN AUGUST MID AUGUST OF THIS PAST MONTH THAT SHOWS THAT GOODWIN'S POPULATION, IS IT ALMOST 25,000 RESIDENTS, WHICH IS A 14% INCREASE, ALMOST A 14% INCREASE FROM THE DECENNIAL CENSUS THAT WAS DONE BACK IN 2010, THE UPDATED POPULATION FIGURES WILL BE USED TO EVALUATE THE VOTING DISTRICTS, UM, FOR EVERY ELECTION, THE FEDERAL ELECTIONS STATE ELECTIONS, AND FOR OUR LOCAL ELECTION VOTING DISTRICTS, BECAUSE BY LAW VOTING DISTRICTS ARE REQUIRED TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY EQUAL IN POPULATION. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY THOSE UPDATED POPULATION FIGURES ARE SO IMPORTANT. 
          AND THEN WE USE THEM AS NECESSARY TO ADJUST OUR DISTRICTS. 
          THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT STEPS THAT WE LOOK AT WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REDISTRICTING AND REDISTRICTING IS THE PROCESS BY WHICH WE USE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO VOTING DISTRICTS, TO MAKE THEM SUBSTANTIALLY EQUAL IN POPULATION. 
          THE FIRST IS, AS THE COUNTY HAS FIVE DIFFERENT ELECTION DISTRICTS, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THOSE BOUNDARIES AND THE POPULATIONS IN EACH TO GET THAT SUBSTANTIALLY EQUAL AND POPULATION. 
          AND THEN WITHIN EACH ELECTION DISTRICT, OUR PRECINCTS AND A PRECINCT IS A NUMBER OF FOLKS. 
          IT'S, IT'S YOUR POLLING STATION. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, EVERYBODY WITHIN ONE PRECINCT GOES TO A ONE POLLING PLACE TO VOTE. 
          UH, GOOCHLAND CURRENTLY HAS TWO PRECINCTS PER ELECTION DISTRICT FOR A TOTAL OF 10. 
          AND ONE OTHER THING, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PRECINCTS AND ELECTION DISTRICTS PRECINCTS ARE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF REGISTERED VOTERS. 
          SO THAT'S A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT NUMBER THAN YOUR POPULATION DATA, BUT THAT'S, WHAT'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU HAVE PRECINCTS AND I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH YOUR LEGAL REQUIREMENTS BACK ON THE ELECTION DISTRICT SIDE, THE BIGGER FIVE ELECTION DISTRICTS, AS I MENTIONED, THEY ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY EQUAL IN POPULATION AND SUBSTANTIALLY EQUAL IN POPULATION IS A 5% PLUS OR MINUS STANDARD DEVIATION IS CONSIDERED TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY EQUAL BACK WHEN THESE WERE DISTRICT LINES WERE DRAWN IN 2011, EACH DISTRICT HAD APPROXIMATELY 4,300 RESIDENTS IN IT. 
          IF YOU WERE TO DIVIDE OUR CURRENT POPULATION NUMBER BY FIVE, YOU'D BE LOOKING AT ALMOST 5,000 IT'S 49, 45 IN EACH DISTRICT. 
          SO CERTAINLY A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE. 
          OF COURSE, FOLKS DIDN'T MOVE TO, UH, OR BUILD IN GOOCHLAND AND QUITE AN EQUAL ACROSS THE, THE DISTRICT LINES, WHICH IS WHY WE ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT WHERE THE POPULATION IS AND, AND DOING SOME REDISTRICTING. 
          THE NEXT LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR YOUR ELECTION DISTRICTS IS THAT THEY BE CONTIGUOUS AND COMPACT. 
          AND FRANKLY, UM, VIGILANT HAS A GREAT, UH, DISTRICT MAP ALREADY FOR THAT. 
          YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY ARE ALL ADJACENT AND NEIGHBORING ONE ANOTHER, AS YOU GO AND COMPACT THAT THEY'RE PACKED TOGETHER, THEY'RE COMPACT AND SHAPE. 
          UM, AND PRESUMABLY THIS WILL BE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DRAW AS WE LOOK AT REDISTRICTING IN THE COUNTY FOR THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE THAT'S A LEGAL REQUIREMENT. 
          THE NEXT LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR YOUR ELECTION DISTRICT FOUND IN THE CONSTITUTION UNDER THE EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE IS THAT EVERY VOTER SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE REGARDLESS OF RACE, COLOR, OR MEMBERSHIP AND A LANGUAGE MINORITY, UH, TELL YOU THAT IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION OF THIS LEGAL 
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REQUIREMENT FOR YOU EITHER TO OVERT FOR THE PROCESS, TO EITHER OVER CONCENTRATE, UH, DUE TO RACE, COLOR, OR MEMBERSHIP AND ALLEGRO LANGUAGE MINORITY, OR TO MAKE, UM, INEFFECTIVE MINORITIES IN DISTRICTS. 
          AND SO THOSE ARE THE TWO CONCEPTS YOU LOOK AT FOR THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT HAVING TO DO WITH RACE, COLOR, AND LANGUAGE MINORITY, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT REDISTRICTING. 
          UM, THE NEXT LEGAL REQUIREMENT IS ABOUT PRESERVING COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST COMMUNITIES OR INTEREST OR ANYTHING FROM NEIGHBORHOODS TO FOLKS OF COMMON, SOCIAL, UM, ECONOMIC, EVEN A NEIGHBORHOOD IS OFTEN THOUGHT OF AS A SUBDIVISION, BUT IT'S MEANT TO BE BROADER THAN THAT. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE IN A SUBDIVISION. 
          YOU COULD BE IN A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST, THIS LEGAL REQUIREMENT. 
          IT IS APPLICABLE NOT ONLY TO YOUR ELECTION DISTRICT BOUNDARIES, BUT ALSO TO YOUR PRECINCT BOUNDARIES. 
          AND THAT IS WHAT CAN, CAN BE A BOUNDARY. 
          WHAT CAN YOU USE MOST OF THEM USE NAMED STREETS, ROADS, OR HIGHWAYS, UM, AS A BOUNDARY BECAUSE THEY'RE IDENTIFIABLE, NOT ONLY NOW, BUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW, YOU ALSO CAN USE HOWEVER, RIVERS STREAMS AND SOME OTHER DRAINAGE FEATURES THERE ON THE U S CENSUS FILES. 
          SO IT PROBABLY DOESN'T SURPRISE ANYBODY THAT THE SOUTHERN DISH DISTRICT BOUNDARIES ACROSS GOOCHLAND ARE THE JAMES RIVER, FOR INSTANCE, WOULD BE QUITE COMMON FOR THAT TO BE, THERE ARE SOME OTHER PHYSICAL FEATURES DEPICTED ON MAPS THAT CAN BE USED FOR BOUNDARIES. 
          IF THEY'RE DEPICTED ON A V DOT MAP, THE U S CENSUS MAP OR US TOPOGRAPHICAL MAPS. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE TO DRAW THE LINE, WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF THESE BOUNDARIES THAT WE CAN DESCRIBE AND FOLLOW UP TO DRAW THE LINE. 
          THE NEXT LEGAL CONCEPT IS ABOUT PRECINCTS LEGAL REQUIREMENT. 
          THIS IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FOR OUR PROCESS NEW THIS YEAR FOR THIS REDISTRICTING PROCESS, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DRAW ANY PRECINCT LINE UNLESS IT IS WHOLLY CONTAINED WITHIN OUR STATE AND FEDERAL DISTRICTS, VOTING DISTRICTS, AS THEY ARE CREATED ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE WHAT YOU CALL SPLIT DISTRICTS. 
          NOW, WARD MEMBERS THAT TEND TO THINK, KNOW WHAT SPLIT DISTRICTS ARE, BUT IN CASE OF ANY OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE NOT FAMILIAR. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME SPLIT DISTRICTS TODAY IN GOOCHLAND. 
          THEY WERE MOSTLY CREATED WHEN WE CORRECTED OUR BORDER WITH LOUISA. 
          BUT WHAT THIS SHOWS IS EXAMPLE FOR, UM, 2002, THAT BLUE LINE, WHICH FRANKLY FOLLOWS WHAT USED TO BE THE CENSUS BUREAU LINE BETWEEN US AND LOUISA WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OTHER BORDER, THAT WAS WHAT WAS USED. 
          UH, WHEREAS THE GEOGRAPHIC LINE YOU SEE FOLLOWED IS NOW OUR ACTUAL LOUISA COUNTY BORDER. 
          SO WOULD THAT BORDER HAPPENED NORTH? THAT BLUE LINE IS A HOUSE OF DELEGATES BOUNDARY FOR DISTRICT 56 AND SOUTH OF THAT BLUE LINE IS HOUSE DISTRICT 65. 
          SO WITHIN THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE SANDY HOOK PRECINCT 2 0 2, THERE ARE SOME VOTERS WHO HAVE TO GET A DIFFERENT BALLOT BECAUSE THEY VOTE FOR A DIFFERENT MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF DELEX. 
          THAT IS A SPLIT PRECINCT. 
          UH, WE CANNOT DO THAT THROUGH THIS REDISTRICTING PROCESS. 
          AND IT'S AN UPFRONT REQUIREMENT BACK IN 2011, WHICH I KNOW ONLY FROM HAVING READ THROUGH THE FILE, WE DREW OUR DISTRICTS. 
          AND THEN THERE WAS A TRUE-UP AFTER THE FACT WITH THE STATES, WE CAN'T DO THAT THIS YEAR. 
          AND SO THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF OUR REDISTRICTING PROCESS FOR WHEN WE GET STARTED AND WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT FOR THE FIRST TIME, EVEN HERE IN EARLY SEPTEMBER, IS THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT ON THE STATE AND FEDERAL PRECINCT LINES BEFORE WE CAN START DRAWING OURS SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR PRECINCTS WILL BE WITHIN THE STATE AND FEDERAL LINES, WHICH IS WHAT IS REQUIRED. 
          THE OTHER REQUIREMENT FOR PRECINCTS IS A NUMERIC ONE. 
          AND REMEMBER, THIS IS REGISTERED VOTERS, BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MINIMUM OF A HUNDRED REGISTERED VOTERS AND NO MORE THAN 5,000 REGISTERED VOTERS. 
          THERE ISN'T A WAIVER THAT YOU CAN GET. 
          IF BECAUSE OF THE PRECINCT LINES, YOU CAN'T BE WHOLLY CONTAINED WITHIN A HOUSE OR A STATE OR FEDERAL DISTRICT LINE. 
          THERE MAY BE ABLE TO GET A WAIVER, BUT THIS IS THE LEGAL STANDARD. 
          THOSE ARE THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS REQUIRED FOR ELECTION DISTRICTS AND PRECINCTS. 
          THESE ARE OTHER, UM, PERMISSIBLE CRITERIA TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FOR REDISTRICTING KEEPING RESIDENTS IN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE SAME DISTRICT, MAKING SURE THAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE POLLING PLACES IN EACH PRECINCT, UM, UH, CONSIDERING THINGS LIKE VOTER CONVENIENCE, DIFFICULT AS IT FOR VOTERS TO GET TO YOUR POLLING PLACE. 
          AND THOSE WERE ALL PERMISSIBLE CRITERIA THAT CAN BE USED IN DOING THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS. 
          SO THAT'S THE OVERARCHING LEGAL AND, AND CRITERIA FOR THE PROCESS. 
          WHEN DOES IT START? WELL, THIS IS A $64 MILLION QUESTION, RIGHT? LET ME TELL YOU WHAT THE, OUR ANTICIPATED TIMELINES ARE. 
          I START WITH WHAT WE EXPECT TO GET FROM THE STATE WHEN THEY ARE SETTING THE STATE DISTRICTS. 
          UM, THE U S CENSUS DATA IS CURRENTLY 
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EXPECTED TO BE RELEASED SEPTEMBER 30TH. 
          I'M NOT PROMISING THAT. 
          I THINK THERE'S A MILLION FEDERAL OFFICIALS THAT MAY NOT PROMISE THAT, BUT THAT IS WHEN IT IS ANTICIPATED. 
          UM, AND FROM THAT, LET ME JUST TELL YOU THAT THESE OTHER DEADLINES I'VE PUT ON HERE ASSUME THAT EACH STEP TAKES AS LONG AS LEGALLY PERMITTED BECAUSE THE GUIDELINES ARE, AND 30 DAYS FROM CENSUS DATA IS WHEN THE, UM, UH, UH, INMATES ADJUSTMENTS GETS DONE BY THE DIVISION OF LEGISLATIVE SERVICES FOR THIS REDISTRICTING, THE DIVISION OF LEGISLATIVE SERVICES ARE GOING TO REMOVE INMATES FROM WHERE THEY ARE HOUSED IN BEING COUNTED TO ALLOCATE THEM BACK TO THEIR RESIDENCES. 
          AND SO THE DEPARTMENT OF GENERAL SERVICES, THE LEGISLATIVE SERVICES HAS 30 DAYS TO DO THAT. 
          SHOULD THEY DO THAT SOONER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER DEADLINES MIGHT ALSO CROP A MOVE FORWARD? HOWEVER, THE STATE COMMISSION THAT IS DOING THE REDISTRICTING HAS 45 DAYS FROM THE RELEASE OF THE CENSUS DATA TO DO THE SET OF HOUSE DELEGATES MAPS FOR THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE 60 DAYS TO DO THE, UM, UH, US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES MAP HERE. 
          I'VE ONLY PUT DOWN THE 45 DAY ONE. 
          IF THEY TAKE THE FULL 60 FOR THE OTHER, WITH, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD HAVE SOME IMPACT. 
          THEN THE MAPS ARE PRESENTED TO THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WHO HAS 15 DAYS TO CONSIDER THE MAP AND THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADOPT IT, TO APPROVE IT OR DENY IT. 
          THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO AMEND IT. 
          SO THERE CAN NOT BE CHANGES MADE BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY. 
          THIS ANTICIPATED TIMELINE SAYS THAT IF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY APPROVES, THE FIRST MAP PROVIDED TO IT, THE TIMEFRAME IS GIVEN. 
          THEN THE, BY THE END OF NOVEMBER, WE COULD HAVE THE STATE LINES DRAWN SO THAT WE WOULD THEN KNOW HOW TO START OUR PROCESS. 
          OF COURSE, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY COULD DISPROVE THE FIRST MAP, AND THEN THEY WOULD GET ANOTHER MAP 14 DAYS LATER, AND THEY WOULD HAVE SEVEN MORE DAYS AND THERE WOULD BE THREE WEEKS ADDED TO THIS BEFORE WE GET THAT FINAL DATA, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY COULD, AFTER THAT ALSO DENY A SECOND MAP, WHICH THEN SENDS IT TO THE VIRGINIA SUPREME COURT. 
          AND I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO TRY WITH WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, BUT THIS IS AN ANTICIPATED TIMELINE THAT WE WOULD EXPECT. 
          SO THAT MEANS THAT GOOCHLAND COULD HAVE THE KNOW WHERE THE DISTRICTS ARE DONE BY THE JOURNAL ASSEMBLY, AND THEREFORE KNOW HOW WE CAN DRAW ARE WITHIN WHOLLY CONTAINED WITHIN THEIR LINES BY THE END OF NOVEMBER. 
          SO HERE IS AN ANTICIPATED TIMELINE FOR GOOCHLAND REDISTRICTING PROCESS. 
          AND THAT WILL TELL YOU THAT IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ANOTHER NEWLY ADOPTED LAW, THE VIRGINIA VOTING RIGHTS ACT, WHICH HAS BOTH THE PUBLIC COMMENT PROCESS BY WHICH WE COULD ADOPT OUR REDISTRICTING MAP OR A SUBMIT TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL PROCESS. 
          THIS IS DIRECTED TO FOLLOW WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT PROCESS OF THE NEW VIRGINIA VOTING RIGHTS ACT. 
          UM, GOOCHLAND IS NOTHING. 
          IF NOT TRANSPARENT, WE APPRECIATE THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT OF OUR CITIZENS AND ALL OF OUR MAJOR PROCESSES. 
          AND SO THAT'S, WHAT'S BEEN WRAPPED UP INTO THIS TIMEFRAME. 
          IT'S CONSUMES THAT WE GET BY THE END OF NOVEMBER, THE DATA FROM THE STATES AND THAT STAFF THEN TAKES A LOOK AT ALL THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, THE PERMISSIBLE CRITERIA, WHERE THEIR BOUNDARIES ARE AND PREPARES A PROPOSED MAP THAT IS PUT ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE AND SIMILAR TO THE BOND, A WEBSITE WOULD HAVE ESSENTIALLY, IT'S ALSO ITS OWN SUB-PAGE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE FOR REDISTRICTING. 
          THAT THAT MAP GETS ANNOUNCED IN JUNE, BY MID JANUARY AND POSTED BY THEN, SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE 15 DAYS BEFORE WE EVEN BEGIN TO, TO, UH, COLLECT, UH, COMMENTS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE IT POSTED AND COLLECT ONLINE COMMENTS AS WELL AS EMAILS OR PERSONAL COMMENTS FOR 30 DAYS. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD BE POSTED AND YOU'RE SHOWING THEM FROM MID JANUARY ALL THE WAY THROUGH FEBRUARY TO HAVE THAT POSTED AND COLLECTING COMMENTS. 
          IN ADDITION, THOUGH, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE BOARD DID 10 YEARS AGO, WE WOULD ALSO PLAY SPECIAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING BEFORE THE REFERENDUM COULD GET, UH, UH, PUBLIC MEETINGS ACROSS THE COUNTY TO INVITE OUR CITIZENS, TO COME SPEAK TO THE, THE MAP, TO TAKE DOWN THEIR PUBLIC COMMENT, AND TO ALSO THEN PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD IN 2011, YOU HAD S THERE WAS A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING THAT WAS DESIGNED FOR NOTHING OTHER THAN TAKING THE COMMENTS THAT WERE COLLECTED IN THE CITIZEN MEETINGS AND PRESENTING IT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THAT ONE PUBLIC MEETING. 
          SO THAT'S ANTICIPATED WHAT WE WOULD DO THE, THIS NOW FALLS DURING YOUR BUDGET CYCLE. 
          SO WHETHER IT WOULD BE A PART OF A BUDGET MEETING OR NOT, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WHATEVER IT TAKES, THAT'S WHAT WE WILL END UP GETTING DONE. 
          AND PUTTING BEFORE YOU, WE THEN HAVE A TIMEFRAME BETWEEN MARCH AND APRIL, ASSUMING YOUR STAFF PERHAPS DOES NOT DRAW EVERY LINE EXACTLY THE WAY THAT IT ENDS UP BEING DONE. 
          AND OF COURSE, KNOWING THAT WE REGULARLY RESPOND TO CITIZEN COMMENTS AND MAKE CHANGES. 
          IF THERE'S A REVISION THEN MADE TO THE PROPOSED MAP THAN AN ADDITIONAL 15 DAYS OF THAT PUBLIC COMMENT 
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PROCESS NEEDS TO OCCUR. 
          AND THAT'S PROVIDED FOR WITHIN THE MARCH AND APRIL TIMEFRAME, THAT'S ALSO PROVIDES FOR THEM TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD IN APRIL, AS IS CURRENTLY ANTICIPATED FOR AN ACTUAL ADOPTION OF THE FINAL POTENTIALLY REVISED REDISTRICTING MAP. 
          THE MAP BECOMES LEGALLY EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS AFTER YOU HAVE ADOPTED IT. 
          AND SO THAT TIMEFRAME WE'RE HOPEFUL WOULD BE IN MAY. 
          AND, UM, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONCERN IF THE STATE CAUSE HE CONTINUES TO GO THROUGH WITH JUNE PRIMARIES, BECAUSE YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH TIME FOR THE DISTRICTS TO BE IDENTIFIED AND SO FORTH IN THE PAST. 
          THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS TYPICALLY CHOSEN TO PUSH JUNE PRIMARIES TO AUGUST IN THE REDISTRICTING TIMEFRAME TO ALLOW FOR SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO OCCUR FOR THAT WHOLE BALLOT OF PROCESS CANDIDATES AND SO FORTH. 
          I'M HOPEFUL THAT THEY'LL DO THAT. 
          IF THEY DON'T, THEN WE'LL CERTAINLY MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS PROCESS TAKEN CARE OF IN A TIME THAT WE CAN STILL MEET THOSE JUNE PRIMARIES. 
          BUT AS I'VE SAID IN THE PAST, THEY'VE PUSHED THOSE TO AUGUST AND GIVEN EVERYTHING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. 
          SO THAT IS WHAT IS EXPECTED AND ANTICIPATED WITH SOME NEW PROCESSES, SOME NEW LAWS TO MEET, UM, AND, UH, KNOWING WHAT GOOCHLAND HAS DONE IN THE PAST AND, AND THE TYPES OF TRANSPARENCY AND ENGAGEMENT THAT GOOCHLAND, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN ITS PROCESS. 
          BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AS LONG AS IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CENSUS DATA ITSELF. 
          SINCE I HAVE THE ESTEEM, JOHN WORLEY TO, UM, REVIEW AND ANALYZE THAT FOR US BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS I DID. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, SO MRS. MCGEE, I KNOW A LITTLE BIT OF THIS AS A KIND OF A GUESSING PROCESS BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF VARIABLES INVOLVED HERE, BUT IF THE DATA IS NOT GOING TO GET TO THE STATE TO THE END OF SEPTEMBER, WHAT'S THE REDISTRICTING COMMITTEE DOING RIGHT NOW TO REDRAW DISTRICTS, I BELIEVE WHAT I'VE SEEN THEM DOING JUST BASED ON THE NEWSPAPER IS SETTING POLICIES. 
          SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY DRAWN SOME LINES. 
          OH, WELL, UM, THAT'S, AGAIN, THERE'S SOME INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN RELEASED AND THEY MAY BE CHOOSING SO THAT NOT ONLY THE TOTAL POPULATION IN GOOCHLAND, BUT WHEN I POP ON THE, UM, GIS, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE CENSUS BUREAU, IT ALSO TELLS ME THE POPULATION PER CENSUS TRACT. 
          THEY MAY FIND THAT BASED ON THE QUANTITY AND QUALITY OF DATA THAT THEY'VE GOT, THEY CAN START THAT PROCESS. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT OUR STATE LINES, THE WAY WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THEIRS. 
          UM, BUT, UH, JOHN MORLEY, OUR GIS PERSONNEL HAVE SAID, WE NEED TO WAIT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 30, WHEN WE GET THE DETAILED DATA ABOUT POPULATION, RACE, CENSUS, TRACT, AND SO FORTH. 
          AND I DEFER TO JOHN AS, AS KNOWING THAT WE COULD START THEN, RIGHT. 
          WE COULD START, WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE THE STATE LINES ARE GOING TO BE, THAT WE CAN NOT CROSS OVER. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS RIGHT NOW, COMPLETING OUR PROCESS IN GOOCHLAND IN MAY, SOMETIME POSSIBLY IT DEPENDS ON LOTS OF FACTORS. 
          AGAIN, ARE WE UNDER ANY KIND OF A TIMELINE, A DEADLINE? UM, NO, THERE IS NO STATE LAW THAT SAYS WE HAVE TO COME. 
          UH, UNLIKE I'VE JUST SPOKEN TO YOU ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY HAS TO GET IT WITHIN 45 DAYS AND THEY HAVE TO ACT NO, MA'AM, THERE IS NOT A STATE LAW THAT SAYS, BUT DATE BY WHICH WE HAVE TO ADOPT OURS. 
          SO SINCE WE DON'T HAVE LOCAL ELECTIONS UNTIL 20 TO RE 2023, THERE REALLY, I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE GO TO 20, 23. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT THERE REALLY IS NO RUSH. 
          I MEAN, WE COULD NOT DO ANYTHING DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND THEN COME BACK AND PICK IT UP IN THE SUMMER. 
          RIGHT. 
          WELL, YOU, YOU DO HAVE SOME POLLING PLACE ISSUE, POTENTIALLY ISSUES, AGAIN, DEPENDING UPON WHERE THE STATE'S DRAWING ITS LINES. 
          UM, UH, UH, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT HOW, WHETHER YOU WOULD SEND PEOPLE TO THE SAME POLLING PLACES. 
          UM, BUT I HADN'T CONSIDERED WHETHER THERE WAS, UM, MORE TIME TO GET IT DONE OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT, AGAIN, CONCERNED JUST THAT WE TRY AND GET THE PROCESS STRAIGHT IN ORDER TO HAVE AN ELECTION, WHICH THERE IS AN ELECTION THOUGH, NOT OUR ELECTION RIGHT. 
          IN, UH, IN THAT YEAR. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE PUSH IT OUT. 
          I MEAN, I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE THE LINES ARE GOING TO BE DRAWN BOTH AT THE STATE CONGRESSIONAL STATE AND LOCAL LEVEL. 
          SO I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE DO THAT, BUT JUST ONE, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE, HAVE THE PUSH OF THE BUDGET SPRINGTOWN HALLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, I GUESS THIS FALL, WE'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS TO GET, OH, I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION. 
          THERE ARE SOME LOCAL GOVERNMENT ATTORNEYS WHO BELIEVE THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE THIS DONE 
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BY DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR, THAT THAT'S NOT AN OPINION THAT I SHARE, BUT THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF, UM, DISCOMFORT WITH WHAT IS OUT THERE. 
          UH, FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT WE HAD TO HAVE THIS BY DECEMBER 31ST, THEN I BELIEVE THAT FEDS WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE RELEASED IT BY APRIL 1ST, BEFORE I'D EVEN CONSIDER THAT AS BEING A VIABLE DEADLINE. 
          BUT, UM, THERE IS AS PERHAPS IN ANY PROCESS THAT ONLY HAPPENS EVERY 10 YEARS, UH, UNCERTAINTY. 
          UM, I HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING THAT SAYS WE ONLY HAVE 45 DAYS FROM S 60 DAYS FROM THAT I'VE BEEN USING IT TO FRANKLY, AS SOON AS WE COULD WITH REASONABLE DATA. 
          GOOD INFORMATION. 
          AND THEN, UM, WITH THE CONCEPT OF THERE ARE ELECTIONS THAT OCCUR IN 2022. 
          CAN I DO SOME COMMON SENSE? WHAT A CONCEPT, RIGHT? I'M SORRY. 
          I'M THE LAWYER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? UM, I, IT WAS LAST GLAD THAT I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS IN GRANT  OF THE VIRGINIA MERCURY HAS BEEN REPORTING ON IT. 
          AND SEPTEMBER 2ND, HE WROTE AN ARTICLE IN VIRGINIA MERCURY THAT THE VIRGINIA REDISTRICTING COMMISSION GOT ITS FIRST LOOK AT DRAFT GENERAL ASSEMBLY MAPS AS CONSULTANTS DELIVERED PROPOSALS FOR PART OF NORTHERN VIRGINIA. 
          AND THEN THERE'S SO, SO LET'S MIGUEL, I HAVE THE QUESTION FOR YOU, THE NO SPLIT DISTRICTS THAT APPLIES TO THE FEDERAL CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS, RIGHT? SO THE STATE REALLY CAN'T, I MEAN, THE STATE'S GOING TO THE FEDERAL LABS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE DRAWN BEFORE THAT. 
          I MEAN, WHICH THEY DO AGAIN, I SPOKE TO A COLLEAGUE OF MINE IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA COUNTY WHO SAID THAT THEY WERE GOING TO START FROM THE SEPTEMBER 30 DATA. 
          AND I'M LIKE, WELL, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW WHERE THE LINES ARE AGAIN IN PRIOR REDISTRICTINGS WE ALL DREW OUR LOCAL LINES AND THEN WE FIGURED IT OUT WITH THE OTHER ONES LATER. 
          AYE, AYE, AYE, AYE. 
          ASKING ME TO JUSTIFY THE DECISIONS OF OTHERS VERSUS THAT PROCESS IS NOT WITHIN MY WHEELHOUSE. 
          I'M HAPPY TO SPECULATE, BUT I DON'T KNOW. 
          WELL, NO, I, I, I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY CLEAR YOUR, YOUR REPORT IS PRETTY CLEAR. 
          WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL WE HAVE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S POINTLESS TO TRY ANYTHING. 
          WE'RE JUST WASTING OUR TIME. 
          IF WE TRY TO DO ANYTHING BEFORE WE KNOW WHERE THE STATE, THE STATE LINES ARE. 
          AND OF COURSE, I THINK THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE STATE LINES FITTING. 
          SO THEY DON'T SPLIT FEDERAL CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. 
          RIGHT? THEY DO. 
          UM, WHAT I READ TO YOU IS ACTUALLY WORKERS TO LOCAL ELECTION DISTRICTS. 
          I CAN NOT SAY I HAVE NOT REVIEWED THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR WHEN THEY DRAW THE, UH, STATE LINES AS TO WHETHER THEY HAVE IT, HAVE THAT SAME OBLIGATION TO AVOID THE FEDERAL LINES. 
          I CAN ONLY TELL YOU WHAT PRECINCT THEM CONGRATS, FEDERAL CONGRESSIONAL LINE. 
          WELL, AGAIN, OUR DISTRICTS HAVE GOT TO BE WITHIN, WITHIN ALL LINES, WHOLLY CONTAINED, BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT THE STATE CAN DO. 
          CAN THEY DRAW THERE'S WHERE IT SPLITS A FEDERAL? I DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT. 
          THEY'RE NOT MY CLIENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          PRECINCTS ARE DISTRICTS, DISTRICTS, AND, UH, PRECINCTS. 
          I DID SAY PRECINCTS. 
          YES. 
          MA'AM. 
          I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, VIRGINIA REDISTRICTING.ORG IS THE WEBSITE THAT MIGHT BE A PLACE WE'LL VISIT AS IT GETS GOING ON. 
          BUT YEAH, IT'LL BE INTERESTING, BUT YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO SIT TIGHT AND WAIT AND SEEING THE REACTION TO THESE NORTHERN VIRGINIA MAPS, AS LEAST AS REPORTED BY THE VAP. 
          UH, GOSH, GOOD LUCK THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WILL APPROVE THIS THE FIRST TIME AROUND, BUT LET'S HOPE SO. 
          WE'LL SEE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          AND IT IS PRECINCTS NO WAY THAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CROSS ANY LINE FOR US PRECINCTS THAT WE, THAT WE DO WHERE THERE'S A LOT COMING ON AHEAD OF US. 
          I'M GLAD THIS IS NOT OCCURRING. 
          I HATE THAT IT'S LAID ON THIS WHOLE PROCESS. 
          I'M GLAD IT'S NOT OCCURRING DURING OUR REFERENCE, BUT WE'LL BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY STAFF, BE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY QUITE A BIT. 
          THIS SPRING AS WE ARE THIS FALL ON THE REFERENDUM, WE'LL BE TALKING REDISTRICTING WITH OUR, WITH OUR RESIDENTS. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT THOROUGH INTRODUCTION. 
          IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS WE WILL MOVE ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          LET'S TWIST. 
          DALE IS GOING TO GIVE US AN UPDATE ON ANOTHER BIG PROJECT. 
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IMPORTANT YOUR MICROPHONE, PLEASE. 
          YEAH. 
          MAKE SURE THAT'S ON. 
          YEAH, IT'S ON. 
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YEAH. 
          I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE REFERENDUM PROCESS AND WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY AT. 
          AS YOU KNOW, THE REFERENDUM IS ASKING THE VOTERS. 
          IF THE COUNTY SHALL ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS FOR THE PROJECTS THAT ARE THEY'RE BEING PROPOSED. 
          I THINK THE TAKEAWAY FROM THIS NEEDS TO BE THE REFERENDUM IS SHOULD WE ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS FOR THESE PROJECTS? NOT SHOULD WE DO THESE PROJECTS? THE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN IN THE CIP FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. 
          THEY'VE COME TO THE FOREFRONT. 
          IT'S TIME TO DO THE PROJECTS. 
          THIS IS THE REFERENDUM IS ABOUT THE FINANCING. 
          THE FIRST QUESTION IS $60 MILLION FOR THE SCHOOLS. 
          AGAIN, SHOULD WE ISSUE BONDS? THE SECOND QUESTION, 36,036 MILLION. 
          THAT WAS GOING TO BE GOOD. 
          36 MILLION FOR THE FIREHOUSE AND THE COURTHOUSE. 
          SHOULD WE ISSUE BONDS? WE HAVE A LOGO. 
          THIS IS I'M SURE YOU'VE SEEN IT ALL OVER THE COUNTY. 
          NOW IT'S ON YARD SIGNS. 
          IT'S ON WINDOWS. 
          WE WERE TRYING TO GET IT OUT THERE FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE THERE. 
          ALSO A WEBSITE, UH, PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN US REALLY GOOD COMMENTS ABOUT THE WEBSITE. 
          THEY LIKE IT. 
          THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION THEY NEED. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. 
          UM, ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS, THEY GET NOTIFICATIONS. 
          IF THEY SIGN UP ON THE WEBSITE, HERE ARE THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT ARE COMING UP. 
          THE TWO THAT ARE NOT ON HERE ARE THE TWO TOWN HALLS. 
          WE ALSO WILL BE SPEAKING ABOUT THIS AT THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS AS WELL. 
          ALL OF THE MEETINGS ARE AT SIX 30, SOME ARE VIRTUAL, SOME ARE IN PERSON. 
          SO WE'LL BE PRESENTING THIS AROUND THE COUNTY. 
          THERE'S ALSO SMALLER MEETINGS THAT ARE GOING ON. 
          MR. ALVAREZ HAS ATTENDED A MEETING OR TWO. 
          DR. 
          REILEY HAS ATTENDED SOME MEETINGS. 
          UM, WE KEEP SPEAKING WITH SMALLER GROUPS THAT HAVE CONTACTED US AND WANTED TO GET MORE INFORMATION. 
          WE HAVE AN EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBER FOR ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE INFORMATION. 
          THEY CAN CONTACT US VIA EMAIL. 
          OUR PHONE IS ALL RETURNED WITHIN 24 HOURS. 
          THEY CAN GET SIGNS, ANY KIND OF INFORMATION, TALK ABOUT MEETINGS. 
          ANYTHING THEY WANT TO DO ON THIS. 
          THE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ON THE WEBSITE ARE UPDATED AFTER WE HAVE EACH MEETING. 
          AFTER WE HAVE A MEETING, SOMETIMES QUESTIONS COME UP THAT MAYBE WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT, OR MAYBE THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE WAY WE EXPLAINED THEM TO BEGIN WITH. 
          SO WE'RE UPDATING THOSE AS WE GO. 
          THERE ARE MATERIALS AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO PICK UP AND TO HAVE, AND TO HAND OUT, UH, WE HAVE YARD SIGNS. 
          THERE'S A TABLE OUT FRONT. 
          I'M SURE YOU PROBABLY SAW AS YOU CAME IN, THERE WERE TRI-FOLD BROCHURES. 
          ONE PAGE FLYERS POSTCARDS ARE GOING OUT IN THE MAIL TO EVERY GOOCHLAND RESIDENT AND THEY WILL RECEIVE THOSE HOPEFULLY PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER 17TH, WHICH IS WHEN EARLY VOTING STARTS. 
          WE HAVE STICKERS WINDOW CLINGS, WATER BOTTLES. 
          WHEN WE GO TO MEETINGS, WE TAKE THINGS. 
          WE HAND THEM OUT. 
          SO PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE THIS INFORMATION TO SHARE. 
          WE HAD KEY COMMUNICATOR TRAINING, AUGUST 24TH AND 25TH. 
          THESE FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT BREATHE IDENTIFIED BY US, OR THEY CONTACTED US AND WANTED TO BE A KEY COMMUNICATOR. 
          THEY WANTED INFORMATION. 
          THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO AROUND AND TALK TO GROUPS OF PEOPLE THERE, WHETHER IT JUST BE THEIR GROUPS, THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEIR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. 
          IT WAS WELL ATTENDED. 
          I THINK IT WAS REALLY WELL RECEIVED. 
          WE GOT LOTS OF GOOD QUESTIONS. 
          SOME THAT WE UPDATED ON OUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, THE SCHOOL SET UP TABLES AT, UM, THEIR PTA BACK TO SCHOOL NIGHTS AND ALL THE SCHOOLS THEY'RE PROVIDING INFORMATION AT FOOTBALL GAMES. 
          I BELIEVE THEY'RE SPEAKING TO ALL THE 12TH GRADE GOVERNMENT CLASSES BECAUSE THIS IS GOOD INFORMATION FOR, FOR THEM TO KNOW. 
          AFTER THE REFERENDUM HAS PASSED, THE COUNTY WILL WORK WITH FINANCIAL ADVISORS TO DETERMINE THE TIMING AND SIZE OF THE BOND ISSUE. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE PROBABLY ARE NOT ABLE TO DO ALL THESE PROJECTS AT ONE TIME, SO IT WOULD BE TIERED. 
          AND WE WOULD GO ALONG WITH THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND TO BE MOST IMPORTANT. 
          THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR WAS HERE. 
          WE DID SPEAK TO HIM AND THIS IS JUST HIS, HIS THEORY. 
          UM, BUT HE SAID, RIGHT NOW THESE TYPES OF BONDS ARE AT ABOUT ONE AND A HALF PERCENT. 
          THAT'S REALLY GOOD. 
          UM, SO THE SOONER WE CAN GET THIS DONE THE BETTER, IF, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE REFERENDUM PASS, WE, THE BOARD WILL NEED TO PASS A RESOLUTION. 
          SO THE DEBT COULD BE ISSUED AND THEN THE PROJECTS WILL BE REVIEWED AND WE'LL START MOVING. 
          ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          TO THE POINT. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? COOL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD, GOOD, GOOD UPDATE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ITEM FOR A NEW BUSINESS. 
          WE HAVE MS. HUNTER, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. 
          [4. 5126: Community Development FY21 Report (Customer Service Center, Planning,]
I LOVE WHEN YOU REMIND ME, I WAS GOING TO SAY HELLO TO OPEN UP AND HE GETS A BIG FILE. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ALVAREZ, CHAIRMAN LUMPKINS, UM, IT'S JOANNE HUNTER, 
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UH, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR NAMEC DEVELOPMENT, UH, PLEASED TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT, TODAY, THE, UM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ANNUAL REPORT, UM, THIS, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT CONSISTS OF OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER, PLANNING AND ZONING BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND ENVIRONMENTAL. 
          UM, AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT HAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH MONICA AND SOIL AND WATER, AND THEY WILL BE DOING A PRESENTATION RIGHT AFTER MY PRESENTATION. 
          SO WE'LL START WITH THE CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER. 
          UM, THIS IS SORT OF WHAT WE CALL THE FRONT DOOR TO OUR OFFICES. 
          UH, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DOING ALL CUSTOMER SERVICE FOR UTILITY AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNCTIONS. 
          THEY TAKE ALL THE PERMITS IN HERE. 
          THEY DO ALL THE INSPECTIONS SCHEDULING FOR BUILDING INSPECTIONS. 
          THEY SET UP NEW UTILITY ACCOUNTS FOR UTILITY CUSTOMERS, AS WELL AS DOING ALL THE, UM, BILLING. 
          SO THERE'S TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE, UH, PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, TWO REPRESENTATIVES FROM BUILDING INSPECTIONS AND ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE ZONING OFFICE. 
          AND WHAT THEY'VE SPENT THE LAST YEAR DOING, UH, IS THEY'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME CROSS-TRAINING OF ALL OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS. 
          SO EACH, UH, PROCESS AND INTAKE HAS A STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE. 
          THEY HAVE A LARGE NOTEBOOK. 
          SO IF SOMEONE IS OUT OF THE OFFICE OR AT LUNCH OR SOMETHING, THERE IS NEVER A TIME WHERE A CITIZEN CAN'T BE SERVED AT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER. 
          UM, ANY OF THOSE WHO WORK THOSE FIVE STATIONS UP FRONT CAN DO ANY OF THOSE, UM, FUNCTIONS. 
          UM, SO THEY'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE AND ALWAYS OPEN. 
          UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN A TREND, NOT JUST WITH THE CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER OR THROUGHOUT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IS THE, UM, ENORMOUS INCREASE IN NUMBERS. 
          THIS PAST IT'S BEEN A VERY, VERY BUSY YEAR. 
          UM, COVID HAD NO IMPACT ON THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. 
          UM, AND, UH, THE, THE NUMBERS ARE PRETTY STAGGERING THAT WHAT THE PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO DO OVER THE PAST YEAR. 
          SO, UM, THEY, IN THE CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER, THEY PROCESS OVER 4,070 PERMITS. 
          THAT'S AT 39% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR THEY'VE SKUID SCHEDULED OVER 17,000 INSPECTIONS, WHICH WAS A 27% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR ISSUED 274 CERTIFICATE OCCUPANCY PERMITS, UH, PROCESS 31 PLANS OF DEVELOPMENTS, 24 LAND DISTURBANCE PERMITS, UM, SETTING UP 226 NEW UTILITY ACCOUNTS, UM, AND BUILD OVER CLOSE TO 2000, UM, UTILITY CUSTOMERS. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE SEEN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SEEING PROBABLY A THIRD INCREASE IN WHAT THEY NORMALLY SEE IN A DAY TO DAY. 
          UM, THEIR CITIZEN FEEDBACK CARD STILL IS A 4.9 OUT OF FIVE. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE VERY STRESSED, VERY PROCESSING QUITE A BIT, THEY'RE STILL PROVIDING OUTSTANDING CUSTOMER SERVICE, THE PLANNING AND ZONING DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, SO YOU SEE THOSE, THE PEOPLE FROM THAT OFFICE THE MOST, UM, HERE EVERY EVENINGS, UM, WITH THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          UM, BUT IN ADDITION TO DOING ALL THAT, THEY ALSO, UM, DO THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE DESIGN REVIEW OVERLAY. 
          THEY DO BUILDING PERMIT REVIEWS, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING PLANS, PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          THEY'RE ALSO RESPONSIVE FOR, UH, ADMINISTERING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT TRANSPORTATION PLANNING IS UNDER THIS DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          UM, SO THESE INDIVIDUALS IN THIS DEPARTMENT, THEY TYPICALLY ATTEND ABOUT THREE TO FIVE, UH, COMMUNITY MEETINGS A MONTH. 
          UH, THOSE ARE TYPICALLY NIGHT MEETINGS IN ADDITION TO PLANNING COMMISSION, BOARD DESIGN REVIEW, AND OTHER, UM, MEETINGS THAT THEY HAVE. 
          UM, SO THIS SHOWS, UH, OUR APPLICATIONS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, UH, THE TWO NUMBERS THAT HAVE GONE DOWN OR THE GOOD, GOOD NEWS IS THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS. 
          UM, THOSE WENT DOWN BECAUSE WE BELIEVE THAT WITH OUR, UM, ZONING REWRITE, WE'VE ADDRESSED A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES. 
          SO THAT'S A GOOD THING THAT THAT NUMBER IS GOING DOWN. 
          IF THERE'S, IF YOU'RE REQUIRING A LOT OF ZONING AMENDMENTS, THEN, UM, THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, WHICH WE SAW THAT, UM, AND ALSO COS HAVE GONE DOWN THE COIS ARE A CERTIFICATE CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL. 
          THAT'S FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS AND WITH THE ZONING REWRITE, WE CHANGED THE OVERLAY DISTRICT TO MAKE IT MORE INCENTIVE-BASED. 
          SO IF YOU MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE, IT CAN BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY. 
          IT'S ONLY IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR A WAIVER OF ONE OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD TO SEE THAT OUR COS ARE GOING DOWN BECAUSE THEY'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OVER OVERLAY DISTRICT, BUT THEY'RE NOT HAVING TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND YOU CAN SEE OUR PRE-AMPS HAD ABOUT 45 PRE APPLICATIONS, UM, OVER THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR. 
          AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS NOT ONLY ARE WE SEEING, 
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UH, MORE PRE APPLICATIONS, BUT THE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING ARE GENERALLY MORE COMPLEX AND LARGER THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IN YEARS PAST. 
          UM, I DID WANT TO POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT BOARD MEMBERS TALK ABOUT THIS, UM, ABOUT WHERE OUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FEES ARE LOCATED. 
          SO IN FISCAL YEAR 21, WE HAD A HUNDRED F I'M SORRY, WE HAVE ABOUT 270 PERMITS. 
          UM, 145 OF THOSE WERE LOCATED IN THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE CENTERVILLE OR COURTHOUSE AREA AND 129 PERMITS WERE OUTSIDE OF THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA. 
          BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY, 85% OF THE COUNTY IS OUTSIDE OF THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA. 
          SO I THINK WE ARE DOING A GOOD JOB OF DIRECTING GROWTH, WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. 
          UM, WHEN MOST OF THE GROWTH IS OCCURRING WITHIN THAT SMALL AREA, THAT'S IN THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS, UH, FOR THE TRANSPORTATION. 
          UM, WE WERE LUCKY ENOUGH, UH, TO HIRE A TRANSPORTATION MANAGER. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOU, UM, AUTHORIZING THAT POSITION. 
          UH, TRANSPORTATION IS ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT HAS BECOME, UM, INCREASINGLY TIME CONSUMING AND COMPLEX. 
          UM, WE WERE TRYING TO DO IT WITH, UH, UH, ONE OF OUR PLANNERS WHO STEPPED UP, UM, BUT TO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO REALLY UNDERSTANDS THE BEAT UP PROCESS MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE BECAUSE THEY, UM, IT'S JUST LIKE ZONING SPEAKS AROUND LANGUAGE V DOT HAS THEIR OWN LANGUAGE. 
          UM, SO, UH, THIS PERSON HAS, UM, STEPPED IN AND PARTICIPATED IN THE NEW CENTRAL VIRGINIA TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY, UM, NUMBER MEETINGS, UM, THINK FOR AWHILE THERE, YOU COULD GO TO A MEETING EVERY DAY FOR THE LEFT FOR LIKE THREE MONTHS. 
          UM, AND, UM, WE ALSO NOW HAVE A DEDICATED FUNDING SOURCE. 
          UM, SO THE, OUR TRANSPORTATION MANAGER WILL BE HELPING US DETERMINE HOW TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND ACTUALLY HAS THE ABILITY TO ADMINISTER LOCALLY ADMINISTER SOME OF THE PROJECTS. 
          SO HIGHLIGHTS OF SOME OF THE TRANSPORTATION SUCCESSES THIS PAST YEAR WAS COMPLETE LIT COMPLETION OF THE ROUTE 6, 6 50 INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, UM, PARTNERING WITH V DOT AND THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER OF REED MARSH TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS AND CROSSWALKS, UM, AT THE INTERSECTION RIGHT OUTSIDE OF OUR BUILDING. 
          UM, THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION HAS BEEN COMPLETED FOR THE STANDEE HOOK, UH, ROUNDABOUT, UH, WE FINALIZED THE ALIGNMENT AND COMPLETED THE ENGINEERING FOR THE FAIRGROUND ROAD EXTENSION. 
          UM, WE APPLIED FOR FUNDING, UM, FOR, UH, THROUGH WEEPY FOR A BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITY STUDY, UM, FOR BOTH THE CENTERVILLE AND GOOCHLAND COURTHOUSE AND THAT WE WERE AWARDED THAT, AND THAT IS JUST GETTING UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH VITA TO INSTALL THE THREE OPTICON SYSTEMS AND THEN THE BOARD JUST EARLIER TODAY APPROVED FUNDING THROUGH CBTA FOR THOSE REMAINING, UM, FIVE SIGNALS. 
          SO ALL OF OUR SIGNALS WE'LL THEN HAVE SHORTLY HAVE THE OPTICON SYSTEM. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO SUBMIT IT TO REPUBLICAN SPANBAUER REPRESENTATIVES, HAMBURGERS OFFICE. 
          THAT WAS A SLIP, SORRY. 
          UM, IN HER OFFICE, UM, THE OIL VILLE, I 64 INTERCHANGE, UM, FOR SUCCESSFUL INCLUSION IN THE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE BILL. 
          UM, CURRENTLY IT IS IN THE BILL AND, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE HOUSE AND WE'RE WAITING, UH, FURTHER NOTICE ON THAT. 
          UH, WE ALSO SUBMIT IT FOR SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS, UM, WHICH WAS THE 64 OILVILLE ROUNDABOUT DIVERGENT DIAMOND AT ASHLAND ROAD, THE 2, 2 88 AUXILIARY LANES AND THE FAIRGROUND ROAD, UM, MOVING ON TO BUILDING INSPECTION. 
          UM, THEIR FUNCTION IS TO PRESERVE, PRESERVE AND PROMOTE THE HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELFARE OF THE PUBLIC IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE UNIFY UNIFORM STATEWIDE BUILDING CODE. 
          SO THIS OFFICE DOES BOTH, THE PERMITTING OF A STRUCTURE IS REVIEW PLAN REVIEWS AND ALSO INSPECTIONS. 
          UM, AND THIS IS WHERE YOU'LL REALLY SEE THE, UM, CRAZY NUMBERS THAT THEY'VE HAD THIS YEAR. 
          SO THE GRAY LINE IS 2021. 
          YOU CAN SEE IN EVERY ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES, THE GRAY LINE IS, UH, PUSHED ALL THE WAY OUT, BUT I DO JUST WANT TO QUICKLY HIGHLIGHT SOME NUMBERS FOR YOU. 
          A 39% INCREASE IN OVERALL IN THE NUMBER OF PERMITS 26% INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL TRADES, 45% INCREASE IN RESIDENTIAL PERMITS, 63% INCREASE IN COMMERCIAL TRADES AND A 51% INCREASE IN COMMERCIAL PERMITS. 
          SO ACROSS THE BOARD, YOU'RE SEEING, UM, JUST CONTINUED ALMOST DOUBLING OF THE NUMBER OF PERMITS OF WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR. 
          UM, SO THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, MANAGING TO KEEP UP, BUT, 
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UM, NOT AS, UH, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT FOR THEM AND TO KEEP UP, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN MANAGING, UM, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS THEY'RE PERFORMING EACH DAY. 
          AGAIN, THE GRAY LINE IS 2021, WELL ABOVE ANY OF THE NUMBERS IN THE PAST. 
          UM, ONE OF THE BAD THINGS ABOUT THAT IS WHEN WE DO GET AUDITED BY THE ISO, WHICH IS THE INSURANCE RATING, THEY LIKE TO HAVE A GOAL OF US HAVING 10 INSPECTIONS A DAY. 
          UM, WE ARE ACTUALLY AVERAGING ABOUT 15 INSPECTIONS A DAY, UM, AND HAVE BEEN, UH, PRETTY PRETTY CONSISTENTLY THROUGH THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS ABOVE THAT 10. 
          UM, BUT THIS YEAR CONSIDERABLY ABOVE THE 10, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE 17 INSPECTIONS A DAY AND IT'S A BIG COUNTY THEY'RE HAVING TO DRIVE QUITE DISTANCE BETWEEN THOSE INSPECTIONS AS WELL. 
          UM, WE DO THINK THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO CATCH UP WITH THIS. 
          UM, THE BOARD RECENTLY APPROVED THE POSITION FOR A COMMERCIAL INSPECTOR. 
          UM, WE HAVE THAT POSITION ADVERTISED. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S ALSO HARD TO HIRE IN THIS, UH, INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS SO BUSY. 
          WE HAD NO APP, UH, LOCATIONS, THE FIRST ROUND. 
          UM, WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK OUT. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A PART-TIME POSITION THAT, UH, WE HAVE BEEN HAVING TROUBLE TO FILL, BUT WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK OUT. 
          AND THAT IS FOR A, UM, UH, FIRE INSPECTOR, UH, POSITION, UM, WHICH IS A JOINT POSITION WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTION AND THE, UH, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW OF FIRE, FIRE PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, FOR ENVIRONMENTAL AND LAND DEVELOPMENT, UM, THEY PROMOTE, FACILITATE, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTY THROUGH THE POD PROCESS. 
          THEY PROTECT THE COUNTY'S NATURAL RESOURCES BY INSURANCE COMPLIANCE WITH EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL MEASUREMENTS, STORM, WATER MANAGEMENT, AND OTHER REGULATIONS. 
          THEY ARE THE COUNTY LIAISON TO MONICA AND SOIL AND WATER. 
          THEY OVERSIGHT, THEY PROVIDE OVERSIGHT TO CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, AND THEY ALSO MONITOR THE BIOSOLIDS AND THE CLOSED LANDFILL, WHICH STILL HAS QUARTERLY REVIEW. 
          SO THEY ARE OUR ENGINEERING EXPERTISE FROM ALL THINGS, ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, WITH THE EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL OR ENS CONTROLS. 
          UM, EVERY CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN THE COUNTY HAS TO BE INSPECTED EVERY TWO WEEKS, BUT YOU COULD SEE WITH THE AMOUNT OF PROJECTS THAT WERE GOING ON IN THE PERMITS BEING ISSUED IN THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS, THIS IS NOW TRICKLING DOWN TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY SEEING THEIR INSPECTION NUMBERS BEING A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THE GOAL AS WELL RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, THEY ALSO ADMINISTER THE STORMWATER PROGRAM, UM, THROUGH V V D Q. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE JUST AN EXAMPLE, IS THERE, UH, RESIDENTIAL PERMITS FOR STORMWATER AS UP FROM, UM, 87 TO 143 BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR. 
          SO YOU COULD SEE EVERY, BASICALLY ALMOST EVERY NUMBER AND ALL OF OUR THINGS IS CLOSE TO DOUBLE FROM WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR. 
          SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE PLAN ON DOING, UM, IN THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 2022, WE ARE WORKING ON UPGRADING OUR PERMIT SOFTWARE. 
          UM, OUR CURRENT SOFTWARE SYSTEM IS 20 YEARS OLD. 
          THERE IS ONLY TWO LOCALITIES IN THE COUNTRY STILL USING THIS PERMIT SOFTWARE. 
          SO THERE'S NO LONGER ANY, UM, UH, SERVICE OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE TO THE SUPPORT TO THIS UH, SYSTEM. 
          SO, UM, THIS SYSTEM THAT WE'RE GOING WITH IS THROUGH INTER GOV, IT WILL ALLOW ONLINE PERMITTING. 
          YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT EVERYTHING FROM YOUR, FROM YOUR HOME OR YOUR BUSINESS. 
          UM, YOU CAN SCHEDULE YOUR INSPECTIONS, YOU CAN GET STATUS OF YOUR PERMIT OF WHERE IT IS. 
          WHO'S, WHO'S REVIEWED IT, WHO STILL NEEDS TO REVIEW IT. 
          UM, YOU CAN PAY ONLINE. 
          UM, AND IT'LL ALSO ALLOW THINGS LIKE OUR, UM, UH, INSPECTORS AND EVERYTHING WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE EVERYTHING ELECTRONICALLY. 
          SO IF THEY'RE OUT IN THE FIELD, THEY CAN PULL UP THE PLANS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A PRETTY OUTSTANDING, I THINK THE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WILL REALLY SEE A REAL BENEFIT AS WELL AS JUST THE, A PERSON WHO'S SUBMITTING A SMALL BUILDING PERMIT WOULD BE ABLE TO TRACK EVERYTHING ONLINE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE PLANS FOR SMALL AREA PLANS FOR CENTERVILLE AND COURTHOUSE AREA. 
          UM, THOSE WILL BE ROBUST, UM, CITIZEN PARTICIPATION, LOTS OF MEETINGS. 
          IN ADDITION TO ALL THE OTHER MEETINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE SPRING AND FALL, OR TO ADD THOSE IN. 
          SO, UH, HOPE YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE MUCH PLANS FOR THE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE WE'LL BE TAKEN UP A LOT OF YOUR TIME. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO DOING THIS SMALL AREA PLANS, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THE REWRITE OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE. 
          UM, WE SET 
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BACK IN FEW MONTHS AGO, WE MET WITH THE BOARD AND DID A, UM, WORKSHOP ON TRANSPORTATION PLANNING. 
          UH, WE WANT TO BRING BACK TO YOU A PRIORITY PRIORITIZATION FOR OUR CBTA FUNDING TO GET SIGN OFF FROM THE BOARDS SO THAT WE CAN START, UM, SPENDING AND MAKING USE OF OUR FUNDS, UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING THROUGH THE CVA CBTA PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER BIG THING THAT WILL OCCUR THIS YEAR IS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING NEW, UH, FLOODPLAIN MAPS FROM FEMA. 
          UM, BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, UM, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THE FLOODPLAIN AREAS ARE GOING TO BE LARGER THAN WHAT OUR CURRENT MAPS ARE. 
          SO THAT WILL BE ANOTHER, UH, LARGE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PROCESS REACHING OUT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THAT. 
          AND, UM, WE'LL HAVE TO ADOPT THE NEW FEMA MAPS. 
          SO JUST DO, AND ON, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE REALLY BUSY, WE DID OR ABLE TO SPEND SOME TIME PUTTING, DOING SOME VOLUNTEER PROJECTS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS OFFICE, UM, WORKED ON A HABITAT FOR HUMANITY HOUSE. 
          UM, AND THEN THE PLANNING AND ZONING OFFICE SPENT A DAY OVER AT GOOCHLAND CARES, UM, WORKING IN THE FOOD PANTRY AND ORGANIZING THINGS OVER THERE. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BUSY, THEY, UH, WE'RE PRETTY COMMITTED TO GOOCHLAND AND GOING OUT AND DOING THINGS FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THERE ARE SEVERAL OF MY STAFF HERE TODAY, SO THANK ALL OF THEM FOR ALL OF THEIR HARD WORK. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY, UM, ARE DOING A YEOMAN'S LOAD, NOT A LARGE STAFF. 
          SO I KNOW I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          AND EVERYBODY HAD A PRETTY GOOD ATTITUDE ABOUT IT ALL, BUT THEY WORKING ON ALL CYLINDERS. 
          SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE HAVE GARY FISHERS ARE A BUILDING OFFICIAL, UH, JAMIE SHERRY, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          RAY CASH IS OUR NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR AND HE'S OVER THE ENVIRONMENTAL SECTION. 
          WE HAVE JOHN WOODBURN WHO IS, UH, THE ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGER AND CASEY LITTLEFIELD, WHO IS OUR ASSISTANT, UM, BUILDING A FISH, UH, DEPUTY BUILDING OFFICIAL THOSE TITLES, MAN, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOOD ON TITLES, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HARD WORK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WERE THERE, WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REAL QUICK ONE? OKAY. 
          SO MS. HUNTER, YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS PER DAY ON AVERAGE. 
          UM, AND I THINK I MIGHT KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT IS IT GOOD TO BE OVER THE AVERAGE? NO, BECAUSE SO, UM, WHEN THE ISL LOOKS AT IT, THEY RECOMMEND 10. 
          THEY WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO BE AT AN INSPECTION FOR A CLEAR ENOUGH AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU ARE INSPECTING EVERYTHING YOU SHOULD BE. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE 10 INSPECTION TICKETS, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET TO ALL OF THEM. 
          IN ONE DAY, IF YOU HAVE 17 INSPECTION TICKETS, YOU HAVE TO GET THROUGH ALL OF THEM IN YOUR EIGHT HOUR DAY. 
          SO THEY DON'T WANT YOU GOING AND, YOU KNOW, NOT REALLY LOOKING AT EVERYTHING AND TAKING IT SERIOUSLY. 
          SO THEY ARE THAT, THAT GIVES YOU A TIMEFRAME OF HOW MANY THEY WANT YOU TO DO IN A DAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          WOULD YOU WOULD, UH, OKAY. 
          SO DOES THAT AFFECT ISO RATINGS? YES, THAT'S NOT GOOD. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AS MS. HUNTER SAID, UM, WE HAD A POSITION POSTED, WE HAD NO APPLICANTS AT ALL, SO WE HAVE RE POSTED IT A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, UH, REPOSTING, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOMEBODY TO HELP THESE FOLKS. 
          FORTUNATELY, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING LOCALITIES POSTED THE EXACT SAME POSITION AT A HIGHER SALARY. 
          SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT MAKES IT HARD TO HIRE. 
          SO, YES, PLEASE. 
          GARY'S GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ISO YEAH, I'M GARY FISHER. 
          I'M THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, UM, TO MISS LASKA LET'S, UH, QUESTION, UM, ISO KINDA DOES A ONE SIZE FITS ALL. 
          AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THAT, UH, THEIR IDEA OF AN INSPECTOR'S DUTIES FOR A DAY IS 10 INSPECTIONS. 
          IT HAS NO BEARING ON HOW BIG OF AN AREA HE HAS TO COVER. 
          SHE HAS TO CARE, COVER, UH, THE POPULATION DENSITY. 
          IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY BASE IT ON. 
          AND THAT'S, WE'RE GRADED ON. 
          UM, AND WE WERE STARTING TO MAKE GAINS IN THAT UNTIL THIS YEAR. 
          WE WERE STARTING TO SEE OUR NUMBERS GO DOWN AND THIS YEAR, UM, LIKE MISS, UH, UM, HUNTER SAID, I MEAN, WE HAD ONE QUARTER WHERE WE WERE ALMOST DOUBLE WHAT WE SHOULD HAVE HAD. 
          UM, BUT OUR STAFF IS VERY, UM, UH, VERY, UH, THEY HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF, UM, YOU KNOW, DEDICATION 
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TO WHAT THEY DO. 
          UM, BUT THAT EXACTLY WHAT MS. HUNTER SAYS IS THAT'S ISOS IDEA. 
          THAT'S GIVING THE INSPECTOR ENOUGH TIME TO GET OUT THERE, TO DO THE JOB WITHOUT BEING RUSHED, UH, OR HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT TRAVEL TIME OR WHATEVER, AS FAR AS THE ISO RATING. 
          UM, IT'S, WE'RE KIND OF IN A TUTOR OWN HORN. 
          WE'RE KIND OF UNPRECEDENTED FOR A JURISDICTION, OUR SIZE. 
          UM, YOU HAVE RATINGS FROM ONE TO 10, 10 BEING THE WORST. 
          UH, WE'RE A TWO FOR COMMERCIAL AND A THREE FOR RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO FOR A JURISDICTION, OUR SIZE, THAT'S PRETTY, THAT'S PRETTY UNPRECEDENTED. 
          AND THE ONLY THING THAT GOT US ON THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE REASON WE WEREN'T TWO AND TWO IS BECAUSE AT THE TIME WHEN THEY DID THIS IN 2018, WE DID NOT HAVE SOMEONE DEDICATED TO DOING RESIDENTIAL PLAN REVIEW ALONE. 
          AND THAT'S ALL THEY DO. 
          WE'VE HAD THAT FOR TWO YEARS NOW. 
          SO I AM HOPING THAT WILL BE AT LEAST A TWO TO A, THE NEXT TIME WE GET READY, WHICH IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, SO IT'S NOT A TO, IN RURAL AREAS WHERE HI, THAT'S FIRE. 
          THIS IS THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT. 
          YES. 
          THE FIRE SERVICE IS RATED DIFFERENTLY THAN WE ARE. 
          SO THIS IS CODES ENFORCEMENT FROM THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION STANDPOINT. 
          YES. 
          IT IS DIFFERENT FROM FIRE SERVICE. 
          YOU ARE, YOU ARE CORRECT. 
          BUT THAT, THAT TWO, THREE RATING APPLIES TO THE WHOLE COUNTY. 
          AS FAR AS INSURANCES RATINGS. 
          IT HAS NOTHING TO DO REALLY WITH, IF YOU'RE IN THE WEST END OF THE COUNTY OR THE EAST END OF THE COUNTY, IT DOES IN A WAY. 
          AND THAT WAY WE, WE FACTOR IN FIRE PROTECTION AND ALL THAT OTHER, BUT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A RATING WE RECEIVE AS A COUNTY DEPARTMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHICH IS PRETTY DANG GOOD. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          WHO'S UP NEXT? OH YEAH. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M GOING TO TRY JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME SORT OF METRIC AROUND WHAT ARE THE FAILURE RATES. 
          SO OUT OF THESE INSPECTIONS, HOW MANY PER CATEGORY PASS VERSUS FAIL FOR FUTURE PRESENTATION OR SOMETHING? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WE'RE CAN DO THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. 
          MR. THIS CHAIR REAL QUICK. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT BUILDING BUSINESSES GENERALLY SOMEWHAT CYCLICAL THERE'S SURGES AND TROUGHS AND PEAKS AND TROUGHS. 
          AND WE SAW THAT AND I GUESS IN OH EIGHT AND OH NINE, WHEN THINGS KIND OF FELL OFF A CLIFF AND THERE WAS NOT MUCH GOING ON, WE WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT YOU KNOW, ARE BEING UNDERTAKEN HERE IN THE HERCULEAN TASKS THAT YOU'RE ACCOMPLISHING ON A DAILY BASIS AND MAKING THE IMPOSSIBLE EASY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AS A BOARD, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS TRY TO BE A LITTLE SLOW TO HIRE AT THE PEAK AND A LITTLE SLOW TO FIRE AT THE TROUGH AND JUST KIND OF STABILIZE THE WORKFORCE AND WHATNOT. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE INTEREST RATES ARE HEADED. 
          NOBODY REALLY DOES IF THEY WOULD DO, THEY WOULDN'T BE WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT. 
          UM, BUT MY SENSE IS A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT I READ IS THERE MAY BE AN INTEREST RATE RAISE AT SOME POINT HERE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT CALM DOWN SOME OF THIS ACTIVITY, BUT I JUST WANT YOUR STAFF NOT TO HOPE FOR RATES TO GO UP UNTIL WE GET DONE WITH THE BOND REFERENCE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          GOOD FOR MONICA AND SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS DON'T LOOK LIKE JONATHAN. 
          NO, I'M I'M. 
          I AM NOT JONATHAN LY OR WHO IS ONE OF OUR DIRECTORS HERE TODAY? I AM KEITH BURGESS, DISTRICT MANAGER OF MONICA CONSOLING AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT. 
          I'M GLAD TO BE UP HERE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL. 
          AGAIN, I'D ALSO LIKE TO, UH, INTRODUCE TWO OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE HERE. 
          UH, KEN CARTER, HE IS AN ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR AND ALSO SEBASTIAN VOLKER, WHO WHO'S AN ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR AND THIS MORNING, SEBASTIAN NOW WE'RE ON HIS FARM PUTTING IN CONSERVATION PRACTICES. 
          SO, UH, BOTH OF US CLEANED UP A LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE CAME TODAY. 
          UM, WELL, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO COME PRESENT TO YOU ALL THIS COMING YEAR. 
          WE HAVE QUITE A TASK IN FRONT OF US. 
          WE HAVE $1.3 MILLION AVAILABLE TO PUT IN CONSERVATION PRACTICES WITHIN MONICA CONSOLING WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, WHICH IS GUCCI AND EMPOWER TAN COUNTY. 
          AND JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, INFORMATION, HISTORICAL INFORMATION IN 18, WE HAD $125,000 IN 19. 
          WE HAD $200,000 IN 20. 
          WE HAD $400,000 AVAILABLE IN LAST YEAR. 
          WE HAD HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          NOW WE'VE GOT $1.3 MILLION, AND THIS IS ALL BECAUSE OF THE CHESAPEAKE BAY AND TRYING TO MEET OUR INFAMOUS QUIP WATERSHED IMPLEMENTATION PLAN 
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TO MEET THE CHESAPEAKE BAY, CLEAN WATER GOALS. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT. 
          WE EXPECT THIS LEVEL OF FUNDING TO REMAIN UNTIL 2025. 
          SO ALONG THOSE LINES, WE DID HIRE AN ADDITIONAL CONSERVATION IT'S AGRICULTURAL CONSERVATION, JUST IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS TO HELP US GET THIS MONEY OUT THERE TO OUR LANDOWNERS. 
          SO THESE ARE GOOCHLAND FIGURES. 
          RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 61 CONTRACTS IN 37 DIFFERENT FARMING OPERATIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY. 
          THE TOTAL COST A WAS $1.7 MILLION BY THE FARMERS. 
          UH, WE PAID BACK $1.5 MILLION OF THAT. 
          UH, WE HAVE 300, 3,800 ACRES UNDER CONTRACT. 
          THERE ARE 34 MILES OF STREAM BANK PROTECTION AND THAT'S 300 ACRES OF STREAM BUFFERS THAT WE HAVE UNDER CONTRACT THAT WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING ALL OF THESE CONTRACTS. 
          SO WE HAVE TO DO ANNUAL INSPECTIONS ON A PERCENTAGE OF THOSE CONTRACTS TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE MEETING THEIR REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO IN 21, WE SPENT $252,000 IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY FOR 70 PRACTICES, CONSERVATION PRACTICES, THAT'S 12 CONTRACTS ON NINE FARMING OPERATIONS. 
          IT WORKS OUT TO 4,900 ACRES OF CONSERVATION BEING IMPLEMENTED. 
          NOW ON A LOT OF THESE FARMS, THAT MAY BE A COMBINATION OF THEIR NO, TILL FARMING. 
          THEY'VE GOT FERTILIZED RECOMMENDATION PLAN. 
          SO MAYBE A DOUBLING UP OF PRACTICES ON ACRES, BUT WE CAN'T REALLY FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          I GUESS YOU SAY, IN OUR REPORTING SYSTEM, BUT ANYWAY, WE'VE GOT 4,900 ACRES UNDER MANAGEMENT WITH OUR PROGRAM. 
          NOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THAT, YOU SAY NINE FARMING OPERATIONS. 
          THAT'S NOT A LOT. 
          AND ON ONE HAND, NO, IT'S NOT. 
          BUT THOSE PRODUCERS THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED IN PROGRAMS WITH US REALIZE THE VALUE OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND SAY, HEY, YOU DID A GOOD JOB ON PROJECT A WITH ME. 
          I WANT TO COME BACK AND DO SOMETHING ELSE. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND THAT. 
          AND IN YEARS PAST, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONIES TO DO THAT. 
          NOW WE'VE GOT MONIES TO GO BACK AND PICK UP SOME PRACTICES THAT WE COULDN'T DO FOR YEARS AND YEARS. 
          THE OTHER THING IS THAT NOW WE'RE STARTING TO DEAL WITH THE SMALLER PRODUCERS THAT ARE PART-TIME PRODUCERS, AND THEY'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE DO. 
          NOT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T PUT IT IN FRONT OF THEM, BUT THEY'RE WORKING A EIGHT TO FIVE JOB OR WHATEVER. 
          AND IT'S JUST DIFFICULT TO GET THEM. 
          WE ALSO KNOW THAT EVEN WORKING WITH VIRGINIA COOPERATIVE EXTENSION, SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET PEOPLE TO COME. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU CAN LEAD THE HORSE TO WATER, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE THEM DRINK. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO HELP CONVINCE THEM THAT THIS IS GOOD. 
          NOT ONLY FOR THEM, IT'S GOOD FOR THEM. 
          WE'VE GOT LAWS ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW, TODAY THAT HAVE BEEN PASSED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT SAY, IF WE DON'T MEET OUR WATER QUALITY GOALS, IF YOU HAVE A, WITH 20 HEAD OF LIVESTOCK, YOU WILL FENCE. 
          THERE MIGHT, IF YOU HAVE OLD 50 ACRES OF LAND AND WANT TO APPLY FERTILIZER, YOU SHALL HAVE A FERTILIZER RECOMMENDATION PLAN BEFORE YOU CAN GO TO SOUTHERN STATES AND BUY FERTILIZER. 
          SO OUR GOAL IS TO OUR GOAL HERE LOCALLY IS TO OUR PRODUCERS TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT. 
          SO THEY DO IT UNDER VOLUNTARILY DO IT. 
          SO THESE LAWS DON'T GET ENACTED. 
          SO WE'RE WORKING WITH EXTENSION, WE'RE WORKING WITH FARM BUREAU AS JONATHAN, AS A BOARD MEMBER OF THAT. 
          I'M A BOARD MEMBER IN POWER, TANA, FARM BUREAU. 
          WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THE WORD OUT SO WE CAN GET CONSERVATION PUT ON THE GRIND TO PROTECT AGRICULTURE IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY, RIGHT? SO YOU'LL SEE SOME SIGNS. 
          IF YOU RIDE DOWN 5 22, ROUTE SIX, YOU GO TO, UM, WEST V BOAT LANDING. 
          YOU'LL SEE A SIGN THERE ON THE LEFT THAT TALKS ABOUT CONSERVATION. 
          AND THOSE FARMS HAVE PUT ANY CONSERVATION PRACTICES TO PROTECT WATER QUALITY OR OTHER PRACTICES, COVER CROPS THAT ARE GRAIN FARMERS DO NO TILL SEEDING OUR GRAIN FARMERS DO. 
          WE MAY PUT IN GRASS WATERWAYS WHERE GULLIES EXIST. 
          WE MAY STABILIZE GULLIES THROUGH OTHER PRACTICES, UH, CONVERTING CROPLAND TO PERMANENT GRASS. 
          WE DO THOSE PRACTICES. 
          THERE ARE OVER 70 DIFFERENT CONSERVATION PRACTICES AVAILABLE THROUGH THE FIJIANS AGRICULTURAL CULTURE PROGRAM THAT WE ADMINISTER. 
          THIS IS JUST A BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURE. 
          UM, THAT SHOWS WHAT A PROJECT LOOKED LIKE. 
          YOU SEE THE GULLY THERE, YOU SEE THE CATTLE, UH, CAN HAVE EASY ACCESS TO THAT. 
          GULLY. 
          THIS PROJECT WAS FENCED OUT. 
          IT'S NOW RIPARIAN BUFFER THERE. 
          THAT'S NOT 
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ONLY HOLDING THE SOIL, THE CATTLE CAN'T GET IN THERE. 
          CAN'T GET TO THE FREEZE FREE SPRINGS. 
          AND BY THE WAY, MS. LAST LET YOU MEAN ASK ABOUT THE CONTAMINATED SPRING SIDE. 
          YEAH, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT AS I WAS SITTING BACK THERE AND MAYBE A MORE, I GUESS YOU SAY NON EMERGENCY NON CONCERNING WOULD BE NON-POTABLE SPRING CHANGE THE WORDING OF THE SIDE, MAKE IT NON DRINKABLE. 
          SOMETHING OF THAT THAT DOESN'T SAY IT'S CONTAMINATED. 
          IT KINDA MEANS THE SAME THING, BUT IS LESS OFFENSIVE AND LESS QUESTIONING. 
          UM, LET'S SEE HERE. 
          SO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT IS, AS I MENTIONED HERE, WE'RE BEGINNING TO TARGET OUR SMALLER PRODUCERS. 
          WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME, SOME, UH, COUNTY INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE. 
          WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME OTHER CONSERVATION ORGANIZATIONS AND STARTED TO LOOK AT WHO OWNS LAND, THAT HASN'T PARTICIPATED IN THE PAST. 
          AND HOW DO WE GET TO THOSE? WHEN I STARTED IN THIS CAREER 30 YEARS AGO, I'D GET IN A TRUCK IN THE MORNING AND SAY, I'M GOING TO DO FARM VISITS. 
          AND I DID ONE-ON-ONE FARM VISITS. 
          AND PART OF THE KEY TO THIS CONSERVATION IS HAVING THOSE PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS SO THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TRULY INTERESTED IN WHAT'S BEST FOR THEIR OPERATION. 
          AND WHAT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST FOR GUCCI COUNTY AND THE WATER QUALITY WITHIN THE COUNTY. 
          SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET BACK TO SOME OF THOSE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS WITH THE HIRING OF ADDITIONAL STAFF, AS WE ALL KNOW THIS PAST YEAR WAS A TREMENDOUS CHANGE IN THE WAY WE ALL DO BUSINESS. 
          WE DID ZOOM MEETINGS. 
          WE DID, UH, EVERY TYPE OF MEETING I THINK WE COULD DO ELECTRONICALLY. 
          AND THAT CHANGED WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IN THE CLASSROOMS THROUGH SCHOOL SYSTEMS. THOSE THIS PAST YEAR WE DID SOME VIRTUAL CLASSROOM EXPERIENCES. 
          UM, WE WORKING WITH, UH, VIRGINIA COOPERATIVE EXTENSION AND DOING A WATERSHED WONDERS ON WEDNESDAYS, UH, WHERE WE WORKED WITH OUR LOCAL EXTENSION AND OTHER EXTENSION OFFICES AND OTHER SOLAR AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS, UH, WITHIN CENTRAL VIRGINIA TO PUT ON SOME PROGRAMS, VIRTUAL PROGRAMS RECORDED, WE'VE EVEN GOT SOME YOUTUBE VIDEO. 
          IT WAS UP NOW. 
          UM, SO WE'RE TRYING TO MEET ALL OF THOSE, UH, DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF EDUCATING AND GETTING OUT THERE. 
          UM, ONE OF OUR, UH, OUR NEW ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY, UH, EXCUSE ME, OFFICE MANAGER, SHE'S INCREASED OUR SOCIAL PRESENCE AND TRIES TO DO AN UPDATE AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK ON FACEBOOK, TRYING TO GET A LOT OF THAT INFORMATION, RIGHT. 
          BUYER, UM, THIS JUST SO SOME PREVIOUS CLASSES WE'VE DONE W WE CAN STILL GET OUT IN THE FIELD AND STILL HAVE MEETINGS. 
          AND THAT'S A GOOD THING. 
          WE'RE STILL DOING THAT WITH A GROUP OF BEEF PRODUCERS HERE IN THE COUNTY. 
          AND ONE THING I'D LIKE TO, UH, BRING TO YOU ALL THE ATTENTION, UH, OVER HOME FARM, RONNIE KNUCKLES RECEIVED THE JAMES RIVER BASIN, CLEAN WATER FARM AWARD. 
          THIS YEAR, HE'S RECEIVED SEVERAL OTHER, UH, GUESTS SAY REGIONAL NATIONAL REGIONAL LEVEL AWARDS. 
          AND THIS WAS KIND OF ONE THAT WAS SPECIAL TO US TO SAY, HE'S ONE OF THE BEST PRODUCERS IN THE ENTIRE JAMES RIVER BASIN. 
          SO WE WERE REAL PROUD OF THAT. 
          UM, ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, THE JAMES RIVER ASSOCIATION THROUGH NATIONAL NATIONAL FISH AND WILDLIFE FOUNDATION GRANTS, WE HAVE PROJECTS AND GRANTS AVAILABLE FOR PLANTING RIPARIAN BUFFERS ON NONAGRICULTURAL LAND. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY IS EVEN WITHIN A SUBDIVISION, WE CAN GO INTO SUBDIVISIONS. 
          NOW, IF THEY'VE GOT STREAM RUNNING THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY, DON'T HAVE BUFFERS. 
          WE CAN PROVIDE SOME COST SHARE ASSISTANCE FOR PLANNING THOSE GRASS AREAS BACK INTO IT, KIND OF TAKE IT OUT OF THE YARD. 
          THAT'S BEING PROBABLY OVER FERTILIZED. 
          OVER-MANAGED PUT IT BACK IN TREES TO HELP IMPROVE OUR WORK QUALITY. 
          SO WE'RE VERY ACTIVE IN, IN THOSE PROJECTS WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, THEIR CENTER FOR WATERSHED PROTECTION, UH, WORKING WITH SOME TARGETED BUFFER PROGRAMS. WE'RE ALSO, UH, CONTINUE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD FOR THE MIDDLE JAMES RYAN TABLE AND JAMES RIVER ADVISORY COUNCIL. 
          UH, THIS IS A LIST OF OUR DIRECTORS, UM, HERE THAT YOU SEE THE CURRENT STAFF, AGRICULTURAL CONSERVATIONISTS, CULT, AND SULLIVAN AND LIZZIE HAMILTON, OR BOTH GUCCI AND HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES. 
          SO WE ARE PLEASED TO BE ABLE TO HIRE FROM WITHIN THE COUNTY, UH, FOR THOSE TWO POSITIONS, UH, ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THE STAFF OF THE, UH, GIS STAFF, ALSO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STAFF. 
          WHEN WE HAVE AGRICULTURAL QUESTIONS, THEY'RE ABLE TO HELP US DO SOME ADDITIONAL TARGETING, DO SOME ADDITIONAL RESEARCH. 
          UH, ONE THING ASKED DID EVEN A FEW YEARS AGO WAS WE WERE LOOKING AT HISTORICAL 
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INFORMATION. 
          THEY ADDED THE 2002 ERROR AERIAL IMAGERY TO THE WEBSITE SO THAT IT GAVE US BETTER REFERENCE MATERIAL IN DOING THAT. 
          SO WE JUST WANT TO THANK THEM VERY MUCH AND THANKFUL. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO ALONG WITH YOUR STAFF. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MERGERS, ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? FIELD, SOME QUESTIONS? YES, SIR. 
          LAST QUESTION. 
          JUST REAL QUICK. 
          CAN YOU EMAIL THIS PRESENTATION TO US? YES, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          GOOD REPORT. 
          ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM. 
          WE HAVE AN ACTION ITEM, PAGE ONE 30 OF OUR PACKET. 
          [5. 5134: Appointments - September 7, 2021]
ONE APPOINTMENT MORTAL CONSIDER APPOINTING COREY DANDRIDGE EFFECTIVE SEVEN DAYS AGO ON SEPTEMBER 1ST TO A TWO YEAR TERM ON THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE OR TWO-YEAR TERMS, CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONSIDER, UH, THE APPOINTMENT OF COREY DANDRIDGE TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE. 
          SECOND MOVE. 
          SORRY. 
          WE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION. 
          I'M A CHAIR. 
          UM, I'M VERY EXCITED TO BEING APPOINT. 
          UH, MR. DANDRIDGE, UH, MR. DANDRIDGE IS A, UH, GOOCHLAND NATIVE AND HAS A GREAT TIES IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          HE HAS A LOCAL BUSINESS WHERE HE EMPLOYS, UM, A GREAT NUMBER OF FOLKS. 
          AND REALLY IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT A BOSS, BUT A MENTOR, AND HE WILL BE AN EXCELLENT ADDITION TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SMITH. 
          NOW, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? UH, PRETTY UNANIMOUS. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THE LAST ACTION ITEM FOR THE AFTERNOON SESSION IS A MOTION TO CONVENE A CLOSED MEETING. 
          I'M GOING TO SUGGEST WE TAKE A BRIEF BREAK, BUT LET'S DEAL WITH THIS MOTION AND TAKE A BRIEF BREAK AND 
          [6. 4105: Motion to enter a Closed Meeting for the purpose of discussing the]
WE'LL MEET IN THE SIDE ROOM THERE. 
          IF WE GET PAST THE MOTION, A MOTION, MR. CHAIR, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF VIRGINIA CODE TWO, THAT TWO DASH 3 7 180 1. 
          I MOVED THE GOODWIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE IN CLOSED SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING THE PERFORMANCE AND DUTIES OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR HER ANNUAL REVIEW. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SPOON OUT FOR A SECOND. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          ALVAREZ, ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. 
          MR. SHARP. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          MR. SPOON HOWARD. 
          YES. 
          MR. PETERSON. 
          YES. 
          MR. LUMPKINS. 
          YES. 
          WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE IN CLOSE MEETING, UH, AFTER OUR BREAK OF SEVEN, SEVEN AND A HALF MINUTES. 
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WELL, 
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THERE 
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YOU 
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GO. 
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HAD 
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ROLL 
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CALL. 
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OKAY. 
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DO 
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YOU 
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WANT 
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ME 
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TO 
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READ IT? YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT FOR SWEDEN. 
          [2.2-3711(A)(1). Certification at the Conclusion of the Closed Meeting.]
OKAY. 
          UM, MR. CHAIRMAN PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE TO THAT 2 37 12 D I MOVED THE GOODSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. 
          HEREBY CERTIFY THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE. 
          ONE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS FROM THE UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND TO ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION CONVENING, THE CLOSED MEETING WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED WHETHER THE GUTEN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THE CLOSED MEETING. 
          SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          I'M GOING TO START TO CLAP. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, ROLL CALL VOTE, MR. SHARPE. 
          YES. 
          MR. PETERSON. 
          YES. 
          CHAIR VOTES. 
          YES. 
          MS. LASCAUX. 
          YES. 
          MR. SPOON. 
          OUR, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ARE CERTIFIED. 
          WE'RE OUT OF CLOSED MEETING. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A DINNER BREAK AND BE BACK AT 6:00 PM. 
          OKAY. 
          [XII. Dinner Break]
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GOOD 
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EVENING 
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WHERE 
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WE 
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ARE 
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HERE FOR THE 600, THREE EVENING SESSION. 
          [XIII. Call to Order, 6:00 PM]
SO WE'LL START OFF THE EVENING SESSION AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH A CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. 
          UM, IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD ABOUT MATTERS GERMANE TO GOOCHLAND, BUT, BUT NOT ON THE 
          [XIV. Citizen Comment]
PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA TONIGHT, UH, WE HAVE SOME PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          THERE'LL BE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK TO THOSE ITEMS WHEN THE BOARD IS CONDUCTING THAT PUBLIC HEARING. 
          BUT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON A PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO SO COME FORWARD, UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TRY TO LIMIT YOUR REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES AND ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME FORWARD. 
          HELLO. 
          IT JUST WOULDN'T FEEL RIGHT. 
          JONATHAN LAW, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD. 
          I THINK Y'ALL DID A FINE JOB AT THE TWO O'CLOCK SESSION. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND, UH, LET'S SEE IF YOU CAN REPLICATE THAT HERE AT SIX. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. LAU, RIGHT? 
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WE'LL CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD, AND MOVE TO THIS EVENING'S PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          THE FIRST ONE IS A COUNTYWIDE ORDINANCE REPEALING COUNTY CODE SECTION NINE DASH 11, UH, PARADES AND PROCESSIONS 
          [1. 3752: Countywide Ordinance repealing County Code Section 9-11 (Parades and]
GENERALLY. 
          UM, IF YOU, THE AGENDA SHOWS THAT, UH, WE'RE EXPECTED TO DEFER THIS. 
          UM, SO DID YOU WANT TO COMMENT AT ALL? I WILL. 
          IF YOU DO, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU JUST MAYBE FILL THE PUBLIC IN, ON BACKGROUND, UH, THE DAY AFTER THE BOARD'S AUGUST MEETING, WHEN STAFF MET TO LOOK AHEAD TO THE FUTURE MEETING, THERE WERE 12 PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING, AND THAT IS SIMPLY A, UH, AN AMOUNT, UH, PROPOSED TIME COMMITMENT AND AMOUNT OF WORK TO DO THAT JUST DIDN'T THINK COULD BE FEASIBLE. 
          IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US THAT GOODSON COUNTY CITIZENS FEEL THEY CAN BE ENGAGED IN OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          AND SO PLANNING AN EVENING WHERE YOU EXPECTED THE MEETINGS PUBLIC HEARINGS TO GO ON FOR HOURS AND HOURS LATE INTO NIGHT IS REALLY NOT. 
          UM, THAT BEST WAY, THAT DAY OF THE THINGS THAT WERE SCHEDULED THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE MOVED. 
          THE PARADE ORDINANCE WAS THE ONLY THING THAT FELL INTO THAT CATEGORY. 
          OTHERWISE WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK APPLICANTS TO PERHAPS INTERFERE WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS OR TIMELINES AND SO FORTH. 
          AND SO AT THAT TIME, STAFF RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD THAT WE MOVE THE PUBLIC HEARING FROM TONIGHT ON THE PARADE ORDINANCE, UH, TO NEXT MONTH, WHEN YOUR AGENDA IS ANTICIPATED TO BE LESS, AND THERE WOULD BE A BETTER TIME TO ENGAGE WITH YOUR CITIZENS ON THAT. 
          SO THAT'S HOW THAT DEFERRAL REQUEST CAME ABOUT. 
          THANK YOU, MISS VICKY. 
          UM, SO, UM, BOARD CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          UM, AND WHAT ARE WE LOOKING TO, UH, TO DEFER IT TO NEXT MONTH WHEN WE HAVE 12 HEARINGS SCHEDULED? OR ARE WE LOOKING YOU'RE DEFERRING THE PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS THE, UM, IT HAS TO BE A MOTION TO DEFER THE PUBLIC GAMES ALSO. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          MA'AM YUP, YUP. 
          AND PUBLIC HEARING, BECAUSE THIS CASE, I MEAN, UM, STAFF HAS PRO YOU KNOW, WAS PREPARED TO PRESENT ON THIS. 
          UH, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WENT OUT TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO'VE BEEN ENGAGED ON IT. 
          SO THE IDEA WAS LITERALLY JUST TO PUT IT TO YOUR NEXT AGENDA, WHICH AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, AND TODAY STILL APPEARS TO BE A MUCH SHORTER AGENDA THAN THE 12 PUBLIC HEARINGS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT. 
          SO IT WAS WE'RE ANTICIPATING YOU WOULD TAKE A TOK TOBER FIFTH AND MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS DOES NOT IMPACT THE PARADE THAT IS HAPPENING ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, ALL THE APPROVALS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE FOR THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. BUSH. 
          ONE DAY PARADE. 
          AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE INCLINING TO NEXT MONTH, THAT INDICATION IS WE'RE LOOKING GOOD AT, FOR THE OCTOBER 5TH, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 5TH MEETING. 
          SO THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DEFER THIS, WHICH I THINK IS THE PROPER THING TO DO, GIVEN THAT IT'S BASICALLY BEEN ADVERTISED AS SUCH AND WE'LL DIG INTO THIS NEXT MONTH. 
          MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD DEFER UNTIL THE OCTOBER MEETING AN ORDINANCE REPEALING GOOCHLAND COUNTY CODE SECTION NINE DASH 11, PARADES AND PROFESSOR SESSIONS GENERALLY AND ADOPTING SECTIONS 9 40, 69 58 RELATING TO PARADES AND PROCESSIONS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SHARP. 
          IS THERE A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION ROLL CALL? DO WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL ON THE PEARL? NO. 
          OKAY. 
          VOICE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          SOUNDED UNANIMOUS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO NEXT ITEM IS AN APPLICATION BY TOWN AND COUNTRY REALTY PARTNERS, LLC, AND JOYCE SCOTT, LLC, A REZONING 
          [2. 4049: District 4 - RZ-2021-00005 Application by Towne & Country Realty]
RC 2020 1 0 5. 
          UH, JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          WE'LL BEGIN THE PRESENTATION, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          UM, THIS CASE, UH, WE HAVE RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR A DEFERRAL FROM THE APPLICANT. 
          UM, IF YOU, UM, NOTICED ON THE NEXT ITEM, WE ALSO HAVE THE TCSD, UH, REQUEST FOR THE SAME APPLICANT. 
          UM, THEY HAVE REQUESTED TO DEFER BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE. 
          IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          BOARD MEMBERS. 
          THANK YOU, MS. CHERRY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT OR MS. SHERRY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, SINCE IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY, I THINK WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD VOTE ON IT AND PICK A DATE. 
          AND I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT OCTOBER 5TH. 
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YES, MR. LUMPKINS. 
          UM, THEY DID REQUEST TO, UM, OCTOBER 5TH TO THE FIFTH OF OUR CALENDARS. 
          WE'RE NOT PUTTING OURSELVES IN THE SAME. 
          NO, SIR. 
          AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT LOOKS PRETTY LIKE RELATIVELY LATE CALENDAR. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, MR. MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DEFER CONSIDERATION OF REZONING CASE R Z 2 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 5 4 65 0.227 ACRES ON SONGBIRD LANE AND HOCKETT ROAD FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED TO RESIDENTIAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, UH, WITH PROFIT CONDITIONS TO OUR OCTOBER MEETING, WHICH I THINK IS THE FIFTH, OCTOBER 5TH. 
          WE'RE ALSO MOVING TO THE NEXT ITEM. 
          IS THAT, IS THAT MOTION IS THAT TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS? WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE MOTIONS ON THE ACTION ITEM. 
          IF IT HAS ITS OWN ACTION ITEM, IT GETS ITS OWN THOUGHT. 
          SO THAT'S THE MOTION THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MS.  MR. SPOON HOWARD, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO DEFER. 
          HI. 
          HI. 
          HI ITEM THREE. 
          IS THE TUCKAHOE TACO CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT RELATED ORDINANCE TO AMEND THAT. 
          [3. 4043: Ordinance amending County Code Section 14-251 (Tuckahoe Creek Service]
UM, ALSO, UH, APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A REFERRAL. 
          I CAN'T IMAGINE WE HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANT ON THIS ONE, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE ON THE EARLIER ONE. 
          SO OUR CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO DEFER NUMBER THREE, PUBLIC HEARING TO OUR OCTOBER MEETING. 
          IT'S ALREADY LOOKING AT WHAT THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD TO FURTHER THE ORDINANCE AMENDING GUZMAN CODE SECTION 14 DASH 2 51 TO ADD THESE FOUR TAX PARCELS TO THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT TO THE OCTOBER 5TH MEETING TO THE OCTOBER 5TH MEETINGS. 
          GIVE ME LIKE, THANK YOU, MS. SHARA. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION. 
          IS THERE A SECOND LITTLE SLOPE, MR. PETERSON, MR. SHARP, MR. MS. LAST CLAP. 
          UM, AND FOLKS, THIS IS ON, UH, THIS IS ON PAGE 1 90, 1 OF THE, OF THE PACKET AND KIND OF LOOKING FOR THAT. 
          SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION TO DEFER ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'RE UP TO NUMBER FOUR. 
          PUBLIC HEARING THE CONDITIONAL 
          [4. 4109: District 5 - CU-2016-00009A Application by Barbara D. Hughes and J.]
USE PERMIT, UH, BARBARA HUGHES AND J DAVID JUNIORS, A RENEWAL OF A CUP. 
          AND MS. SHERRY WILL START. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JAMIE SHERRY DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. 
          UM, YES. 
          THIS REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR A RENEWAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY FAMILY HOUSING UNIT. 
          UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY. 
          UH, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED A TWO AS IS ALL THE SURROUNDING, UM, ADJACENT PROPERTY. 
          UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA, AS IT DOES ALL THE SURROUNDING, UM, PROPERTIES. 
          UM, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL, UM, IT IS A RESIDENTIAL LOT AND IT IS SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL LOTS AS WELL. 
          UM, THE DETACH, UH, GARAGE WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 2017 AND, UM, CURRENTLY MS. HUGHES LIVES IN THE MAIN HOUSE AND HER SON DOES LIVE IN THE ASSESSORY DWELLING. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE OF THE HOUSE HERE ON THE SCREEN, UH, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD IN JUNE, UH, ONE NEIGHBOR ATTENDED AND EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THIS PROPOSAL. 
          UM, SINCE, UH, OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE HAVE RECEIVED NO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS USE. 
          UM, BACK IN AUGUST, 2021 LAST MONTH ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH A FIVE VOTE AND NOBODY SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AS WITH, UM, A LOT OF OUR CONDITIONAL OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS. 
          WE'VE UPDATED, UH, THE 2016 WITH OUR CURRENT, UH, OUR CURRENT CONDITIONS. 
          AND SO TONIGHT, UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE FOLLOWING. 
          UH, THE USE WOULD ALLOW FOR A DETACHED FAMILY HOUSING UNIT, UH, NUMBER TWO STATES THAT ONLY ONE PERSON, I MEAN, ONLY PERSONS RELATED TO THE RESIDENT OF THE MAIN HOUSE IS ALLOWED TO LIVE THERE. 
          UH, NUMBER THREE, THAT, UH, STATES THAT THE ACCESSORY FAMILY HOUSING UNIT CANNOT BE RENTED. 
          UH, NUMBER FOUR REQUIRES THAT AT LEAST ONE CARBON MONOXIDE AND ONE, UH, DETECTOR BE MAINTAINED, UM, IN THE ACCESSORY HOUSING UNIT, UH, NUMBER FIVE STATES THAT, UM, THEY NEED TO BE 
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ABLE TO HAVE, UM, EMERGENCY ACCESS VEHICLES, UM, BE ABLE TO GET THERE. 
          UH, THIS IS A TEN-YEAR RENEWAL THAT'S WHAT'S RECOMMENDED. 
          UM, SO THAT WOULD MEAN IT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER, UH, 2031 WHEN THIS WOULD NEED TO BE RENEWED AGAIN. 
          AND THEN THE LAST, UM, THE LAST CONDITION IS OUR OR TRANSFER OF THESE, MEANING THAT IF THEY WERE TO SELL OR RENT THE PROPERTY, UM, THE COUNTY WOULD NEED TO BE NOTIFIED AS, AS WOULD THE, UH, THE NEW TENANT OR OWNER, UH, THE CONDITIONS THAT IS MY PRESENTATION. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, MS. HUGHES IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU IF NEEDED. 
          THANK YOU, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? OKAY. 
          WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT WISHES TO SPEAK. 
          NO, YOU'RE FINE. 
          SHE, SHE DID A GOOD, NICE DAY ALL BEING THERE SO THEY CAN HELP ME TAKE CARE OF. 
          IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOUR SON AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW. 
          IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YEP. 
          YEP. 
          GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DID, DID MS. SHERRY COVER EVERYTHING YOU WANTED US TO HEAR? GOOD. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU, MS. HUGHES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SINCE WE'RE AT A PUBLIC, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          WE WILL OPEN UP THE TIME FOR THE, TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS APPLICATION, UM, FROM MISUSE, SAME RULES APPLY. 
          IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD FOR AGAINST, OR COMMENT ON, ON THIS SUBJECT, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND LIMIT YOUR, PLEASE TRY TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. 
          JOHN'S LAW, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD. 
          I TOLD MS. HUGHES I'D COME UP AND SAY, I'M FOR IT. 
          SHE'S A DOWN THE ROAD NEIGHBOR. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO KEEP THIS IN PLACE. 
          SO I HOPE YOU'LL VOTE FOR IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS, ON THIS, A RENEWAL OF THE CUP ART SEEING NO ONE GO CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY DISCUSSION CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, JEREMY. 
          UM, THIS ONE SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS NOW WITH NO COMPLAINTS. 
          UM, THERE'S BEEN NOTICES AND COMMENT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          THERE WAS ONE HERE AT OUR MEETING, UM, AND THAT COMES TO US WITH UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FIVE O FOR APPROVAL. 
          SO THIS ONE SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD SEMESTER CHAIR. 
          UH, I WOULD MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 
          SEE YOU 20 16, 9 A FOR A DETACHED ACCESSORY FAMILY HOUSING UNIT AT 10 18 MANNEQUIN ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSE CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED. 
          THANK YOU BOTH. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSION ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE. 
          MR. . 
          YES. 
          MR. PETERSON. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          MR. SHARP. 
          YES. 
          MR. LUMPKIN. 
          YES. 
          UNANIMOUS. 
          THANK YOU, MS. HUGHES. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS, UH, APPLICATION BY, UH, MS. MS. KNUCKLES TO ME IS ERIC'S MOM, 
          [5. 4114: District 4 - CU-2021-00005 Application by Kimberly C. Nuckols requesting]
UH, FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ON 2.15 ACRES AT 8 49 BROAD STREET ROAD. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MS. SHERRY AGAIN STARTS OFF AND WAS A PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          YES. 
          THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL ON HOSTED. 
          UM, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON BROAD STREET ROAD. 
          UM, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED A TWO AS IS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY. 
          THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA. 
          UH, THIS PROPERTY IS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE STREET ON THE MAP, UH, UH, THAT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS SEMI-PUBLIC. 
          THAT IS THE LOCATION OF CHINESE BAPTIST CHURCH. 
          GRACE IS CHINESE BAPTIST CHURCH. 
          UM, AND HERE'S THE AREA, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS THE HOUSE RIGHT THERE, AND I'M GOING TO MENTION THIS LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THE, UM, UH, THE ACTUAL APPLICANT DOES LIVE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. 
          SO THE PROPOSED USE IS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, UM, WHICH IS DEFINED ON HOSTED, WHICH IS DEFINED AS A DWELLING WHERE A PORTION OR ALL OF THE, UH, DWELLING IS USED FOR LODGING FOR TRANSIENT RENTERS. 
          UM, IT IS RENTED FOR LESS THAN 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS. 
          UH, THE PROPERTY DOES NOT RESELL THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT RESIDE IN THE HOUSE AND RENTERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN MEALS. 
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UM, THE POVERTY HAS MOSTLY RECENTLY BEEN USED AS A LONG-TERM RENTAL OF THE, UM, UM, APPLICANT WANTS TO USE IT AS A, UM, SHORT-TERM RENTAL ON HOSTED. 
          AS I MENTIONED, SHE DOES NOT LIVE AT THE PROPERTY, BUT SHE DOES LIVE ON, EXCUSE ME, IN A DRY ADJACENT PROPERTY. 
          AND THERE WILL BE NO MORE THAN FOUR PEOPLE. 
          FOUR GUESTS ALLOWED TO STAY THERE OVERNIGHT AT ONE TIME, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH BOTH THE BUILDING CODE AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT REGULATIONS, A COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD ON MAY 12TH, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, MR. SPOON, HAUER, UM, PLANNING COMMISSIONER, MR PATTOCK, AND TWO NEIGHBORS WERE IN ATTENDANCE. 
          THERE WERE NO ISSUES OR CONCERNS EXPRESSED FROM THE NEIGHBORS AT THE, UH, AUGUST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          UH, THEY, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS WITH THE FIVE ZERO VOTE. 
          AND NOBODY SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UH, THE FOLLOWING ARE THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS FOR THIS APPLICATION. 
          UH, NUMBER ONE ALLOWS THE PROPERTY TO BE USED AS A SHORT TERM RENTAL ON, ON HOSTED NUMBER TWO. 
          UM, UH, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, UM, UH, ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM OF FOUR GUESTS, AS I HAD MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          AND THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH BOTH THE BUILDING CODE, AS WELL AS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, THERE IS A PORTION OF THIS CONDITION THAT STATES THAT, UM, IF THIS, IF THE SEPTIC IS INCREASED OR DECREASED, UM, THAT NUMBER COULD BE ADJUSTED BASED ON, UM, UM, ON WHAT IS ALLOWED, BUT AT NO TIME IS IT TO EXCEED, UH, 10, 10 INDIVIDUALS. 
          UM, THIS ALSO REQUIRES, UM, A WORKING CARBON MONOXIDE AND SMOKE DETECTOR ON THE PROPERTY AND WITHIN, WITHIN THE PROPERTY AND ACCESS MUST BE, UM, FOR, UM, EMERGENCY VEHICLES MUST BE ALLOWED AND MAINTAINED. 
          UM, NUMBER FIVE, UH, NO AMPLIFIED AMPLIFIED SOUND OR NOISE, UM, OUTSIDE, AND THERE SHOULD BE NO OUTDOOR MUSIC AFTER 10:00 PM. 
          UH, THERE SHOULD BE NO NUMBER SIX, THERE SHOULD BE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS POSTED AND MAINTAINED ALL THE BOUNDARIES ON THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, NUMBER SEVEN STATES THAT THE PROPERTY SHALL MAINTAIN A RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE, UH, NUMBER EIGHT, UM, STATES THAT GUESTS WILL NOT HUNT OR DISCHARGE FIREARMS ON THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, CONDITION NUMBER NINE BASICALLY SAYS THAT ALL THE CONDITIONS THAT I JUST MENTIONED NEED TO BE, UM, TOLD, AND, UH, B THE GUESTS NEED TO BE NOTIFIED OF THESE, THESE INCLUDE, UM, THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT ARE ALLOWED NUMBER OF GUESTS THAT ARE ALLOWED, UM, THE OUTDOOR MUSIC AND SOUNDS, UH, THE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS, AND THEY MUST STAY WITHIN THERE. 
          AND THAT THERE'LL BE NO HUNTING OR FIRING OF, OF, UM, OF FIREARMS ON THE PROPERTY. 
          THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR, UM, EXPIRATION DATE, WHICH WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 20, 26 WHEN THIS WOULD NEED TO BE RENEWED AGAIN. 
          AND LASTLY THEY TRANSFER OF LEASE. 
          UM, THIS IS OUR STANDARD, AS I HAD MENTIONED FOR REQUIRING THEM TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS ANY, UM, NEW TENANT OR OWNER OF THESE CONDITIONS AND THE CHANGE THAT SUMMARIZES MY PRESENTATION. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          WE ALSO HAVE, UM, UH, MS. UH, THE APPLICANT AGAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          BOARD MEMBERS. 
          SURE. 
          THIS LAST ONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MS. SHERRY. 
          APPRECIATE THAT. 
          SO THE APPLICANT LIVES NEXT DOOR TO THIS PROPERTY. 
          YES. 
          MA'AM WHO LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE? NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE ABLE, I, WASN'T NOT AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING. 
          UM, THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          I JUST WANT TO BE SURE. 
          UH, AND HOSTED MEANS, WELL, HAVING THE APPLICANT LIVED NEXT DOOR IS A CONTROL DEAF. 
          NO, DEF NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, BUT I'VE JUST WONDERED WHAT OTHER NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE. 
          SO MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE COULD ANSWER THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CERTAINLY YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          YEAH. 
          LET'S LET'S LET'S LET'S, LET'S, LET'S LET'S FOLLOW THE STEPS. 
          WE'LL WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET THAT. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I JUST HAVE JUST KIND OF A LOGISTICAL QUESTION THAT MAYBE I COULD ASK LATER, BUT WHILE IT'S IN FRONT OF ME, I SEE, UH, UH, KIM KIMBERLY KNUCKLES AS THE APPLICANT. 
          UM, BUT I SEE ALSO IN THAT THE THREE THERE'S THREE PEOPLE THAT OWN IT, BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YOU ALL JUST GET, YOU GET THE OWNER'S SIGNATURE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE, THEY DON'T SIGN THE APPLICANT FORM, BUT THEY SIGN THE BOTTOM AND THAT BOTTOM PAGE, UM, WHERE THE SIGNATURE IS NOTARIZED OF THE APPLICANT IS THAT THAT'S HOW WE JUST CAPTURE THE OWNER'S CONSENT TO THE RECORD. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THIS, UH, MCGEE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ESSENTIALLY. 
          YES. 
          SHE REPRESENTS THE OWNERS OF ALL THE PROPERTY. 
          ALL THE PROPERTIES ARE ON THERE AND HER SIGNATURE WAS BE SUFFICIENT. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? MS. YEAH, I HAVEN'T OPENED UP THIS APPLICATION, BUT ON THE APPLICATION, 
          [04:25:01]
THERE'S A PLACE WHERE THE PROPERTY OWNERS, IF THEY ARE NOT, THE APPLICANT HAVE TO GIVE PERMISSION TO THE APPLICANT TO REPRESENT THE PROPERTY FOR THE ZONING CASE. 
          GOTCHA. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. 
          WHO ARE THE PROPERTY OWNERS? UM, THERE'S THREE OF THEM THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE APPLICATION, MR. MS. KNUCKLES, AND THEN EVA CHILDERS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND ALL THREE OF THEM HAVE SIGNED THE APPLICATION, RIGHT? ONE HIS SUNDAY APPLICATION, ALL THREE HAVE SIGNED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE WHERE IT SAYS, UM, PROPERTY OWNER THERE'S PERMISSION. 
          OKAY. 
          PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THIS APPLICANT TO BRING FORWARD THE, THE APPLICATION AND BE HEARD ON IT. 
          SO THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS ARE NOT AN APPLICANT, BUT THEY'D GIVEN THIS APPLICANT PERMISSION. 
          OKAY. 
          FAIR ENOUGH. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MS. SHERRY? AND THANK YOU. 
          OF COURSE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THIS IS THE TOP OF THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD. 
          IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD, JUST COME ON, COME ON UP SO THAT EVERYTHING GETS RECORDED AND SAID, WE CAN HEAR YOU. 
          I'M KNUCKLES 1780 ELMWOOD DRIVE MANNEQUIN SALMON. 
          HI. 
          HI. 
          SO, UM, DID MS. SHERRY COVER IT? YES. 
          SHE DID A GREAT JOB. 
          YEAH. 
          AND AS FAR AS THE, THE NEIGHBORS, YOU WERE ASKING YOU, ALL OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE FAMILY, EXCEPT FOR ONE COUPLE THAT LIVES RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPOSED RENTAL PROPERTY. 
          AND THEY WERE AT OUR MEETING IN MAY AND THEY, UH, THEY HAVE NO CONCERNS WHATSOEVER. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WAS ASKING IS, UM, YEAH. 
          DO WE, AND AGAIN, I LIKE THE OWNER BEING NEXT DOOR AND ONE OF THE ELDERS BEING NEXT DOOR, BECAUSE THAT DEFINITELY IS A CONTROL. 
          I'M SURE SHE'LL BE RIGHT OVER THERE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, SHUT IT DOWN. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO MS. CHILDREN'S IS THE PERSON WHO LIVES NEXT DOOR. 
          THAT'S MY MOTHER. 
          SHE LIVES RIGHT NEXT DOOR. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? ANY QUESTIONS? THE APPLICANT. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, MS. SNUFFLES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SO WE, MIKE, ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD FOR AGAINST, OR COMMENTS ON THIS APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ON HOSTED SHORT RENTAL SHORT TERM RENTAL, UM, PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD. 
          WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, BOARD ANY DISCUSSION, ANY MOTION MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT C U DASH 2 0 2 1 DASH 0 0 0 0 5 FOR AN UNHOLSTERED SHORT-TERM RENTAL AT 8 49 BROAD STREET ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SHARP. 
          SECOND. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SPLIT. 
          SECOND, OUR BOARD. 
          ANY DISCUSSION ROLL CALL VOTE, MR. PETERSON. 
          YES. 
          MS. LAST GLENN. 
          YES. 
          MR. SPOON HOWARD. 
          YES. 
          MR. SHAW. 
          YES. 
          MR. LUCAS. 
          YES. 
          UNANIMOUS. 
          YOU HAVE YOUR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 
          UH, GOOD LUCK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BEST QUESTIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          NEXT UP IS APPLICATION BY BIG DOG RESOURCES, LLC, FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A MINING OPERATION ON ONE ACRE OUT IN 
          [6. 4110: District 1 - CU-2021-00006 - Application by Big Dawg Resources, LLC]
THE FAR WEST PART OF THE COUNTY. 
          UM, MS. MS. SHERRY IS GOING TO, UM, START US OFF AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, REQUEST IS FOR A MINING OPERATION ON SHANNON HILL ROAD TO, UM, MINE, APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRE. 
          UM, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE VICINITY MAP, IT'S LOCATED IN THE FAR WESTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED A ONE AS IS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY. 
          UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IDENTIFIES THIS PROPERTY AS A RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA, AS IT DOES THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THROUGH THE AREA, THIS ACTUALLY DOES COMPRISE OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PARCELS. 
          UM, THERE'LL BE A MAP COMING UP TO SHOW SPECIFICALLY WHERE THE MINING OPERATION WILL OCCUR. 
          UM, JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORIC DATA. 
          UM, SHANNON HILL ROAD AREA WAS MINED FOR GOLD AND SILVER, UH, BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 1835 AND 1935. 
          UM, AS ALL I'M SURE RECALL, THERE IS A 
          [04:30:01]
COMPARABLE, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR, UM, BY THE SAME APPLICANT ON THE OLD MOHS MIND. 
          UM, THIS, UH, THAT MINING ACTIVITY HAS STARTED, BUT IT'S NOT IN FULL OPERATION AS OF YET. 
          UH, MY, UH, SO THE PROPOSED USE, UH, IT'S AN OPERATION THAT TAKES OLD, UM, MINING WORKINGS AND REMOVES THE GOLDEN MERCURY, UH, FROM THE WORKINGS. 
          UM, THEY USE A PORTABLE CENTRIFUGE AND ROCK CRUSHING TO SEPARATE OUT THE GOLD, UM, ACTIVITIES, UM, WILL NOT INVOLVE ANY NEW MINDS. 
          I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, NEW CHEFS OR, UH, NEW PITS. 
          UM, THE RECLAMATION PROCESS, UM, IS COMPLETED IN ONE SMALL AREA AT A TIME, AND THERE ARE NEW ACIDS OR BLESSING BLASTING FOR THIS PROPOSE USE. 
          UM, GOLDEN MERCURY REMOVAL ACTIVITIES ARE REGULATED BY THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF MINES, MINERALS, AND ENERGY. 
          UH, THIS IS THE MAP I WAS REFERRING TO. 
          UM, THE AREA CIRCLED IS THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE, OF THE ONE ACRE THAT WILL BE MINED. 
          UM, THE, UH, THE CODE ACTUALLY REQUIRES THAT, UM, THERE'S AT LEAST 1000 FEET FROM THE NEAREST OCCUPIED DWELLING AT THE TIME. 
          UM, THIS IS PERMITTED, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CLOSEST DWELLING IS APPROXIMATELY 2,500 FEET AWAY. 
          UH, YOU'LL SEE A, UH, A LITTLE ASTERISK ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS THE LOCATION OF THE, UM, UH, APPROVED PRO CUP, UM, FROM LAST YEAR, THAT'S WHERE THAT IS LOCATED IN JUNE. 
          UH, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING PLANNING COMMISSIONER, MR. MEYERS AND 14 CITIZENS WERE IN ATTENDANCE QUESTIONS. 
          UM, WERE INVOLVED ABOUT THE PROCESS, THE DEPTH OF ANY EXCAVATING AND STORM WATER RUNOFF. 
          UM, NO ONE EXPRESSED ANY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED APPLICATION. 
          UM, AT THE AUGUST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FIVE AT ZERO, AND NO ONE SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          UH, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE RECOMMENDED. 
          UM, IF THIS IS TO BE APPROVED, UM, ON NUMBER ONE, IT SAYS THAT IT IS ALLOWED, UM, TO BE USED FOR, UM, MINING APPROXIMATELY ONE ACRES. 
          AND IT REFERENCED BACK TO, UM, AND, UH, UH, UH, UH, IT'S LIKE A, UM, A CONCEPTUAL PLAN ON PAGE FOUR OF THE, UM, OF THE STAFF REPORT. 
          SO THAT ACTUALLY KIND OF TIES IT TO WHERE THE LOCATION IS GOING TO BE. 
          UH, NUMBER TWO SAYS IF A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED, UH, NO ACTIVITIES WILL START UNTIL THE PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED. 
          UH, NUMBER THREE REQUIRES THEM TO FOLLOW ALL STATE, UM, AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS AS IT PERTAINS TO THE USE. 
          UM, THERE'S NO DISPOSAL OF OFFSITE WASTE ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY AND NO TOXIC CHEMICALS, HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCES ACID SHALL BE USED FOR THE MINING OPERATION AND NO TRASH OR DEBRIS IS ALLOWED TO ACCUMULATE ON THE SITE. 
          UH, D UH, MARKING OF THE PERMIT BOUNDARY BOUNDARIES REQUIRES THE MINING BOUNDARY TO BE CLEARLY MARKED WITH WHEN ACTIVITIES ARE CLOSER THAN 100 FEET OF THE BOUNDARY LINE. 
          UM, LETTER E THAT AN ACCESS ROAD, UM, IS REQUIRED TO MEET V DOT STANDARDS FOR THE ENTRANCE, AS WELL AS, UM, BE MAINTAINED IN A MANNER TO ALLOW, UM, ACCESSIBILITY FOR GOOCHLAND FIRE RESCUE AND, UH, TO MAINTAIN THE ROAD IN A MANNER THAT ENSURES THAT MUD AND DEGREE ARE NOT TRACKED ONTO THE PUBLIC ROADS, UH, LETTER F STATES, THAT THERE SHALL BE NO IMPACT TO THE NATURAL DRAIN WAYS, UM, AND IS ALLOWED UNLESS IT'S APPROVED BY, UH, DMN E OR DEQ AND BUFFERS ARE REQUIRED AROUND ALL INTERMITTENT AND PERENNIAL STREAMS, A LETTER G UH, TOP SOIL AND STORAGE, UM, PRIOR TO ANY LAND DISTURBANCE, ACTIVE ACTIVITY, SEDIMENT CONTROL MEASURES MUST BE PROPERLY INSTALLED TOPSOIL AND OVERBURDENED MUST BE REMOVED AND STOCKPILED OR USED TO CREATE A DIVERSION BERMS AROUND THE SITE. 
          PERIMETER. 
          ANY CONSTRUCTION OF BERMS MUST GO NO HIGHER THAN FIVE FEET. 
          UH, BERMS CANNOT BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN THE 25 FEET OF ADJACENT PROPERTY BOUNDARIES WITHOUT WRITTEN PERMISSION OF THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER, AS AREAS ARE COMPLETE, THE BERM MUST BE UTILIZED, UM, TO FINAL GRADE AND PROVIDE, UM, COVERAGE OF VEGETATION. 
          MINING MUST BE CONDUCTED IN A WAY TO DIRECT ALL SURFACE RUNOFF INTO THE RETENTION FA INTO A RETENTION POND. 
          UM, AND LASTLY ALL STORM WATER DRAINAGE, UM, BUT IN THE DISTURBED AREA BE DIVERTED, OH, SORRY. 
          I JUST 
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READ THAT TWICE. 
          UM, H SCREENING, UM, SCREENING IS REQUIRED THAT A HUNDRED FEET OF UNDISTURBED FOREST BE, UM, ON THE PERIMETER BOUNDARY THAT, UM, USE OF NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION OR BERMS PLANTED TREES, ALL OF THOSE COULD BE USED FOR SCREENING, UM, LETTER, EYE CLOSURE, UH, ROADS, OPENINGS, AND PITS. 
          WHEN THE MINING OPERATION HAS COMPLETED, THE ROADS MUST BE FENCED, UM, AS WELL AS ANY OTHER OPENINGS, UM, AROUND THE PITS OR OTHER HAZARDOUS, UM, AREAS ON THE PROPERTY. 
          A LETTER J UH, GROUNDWATER PROTECTION PLAN, UH, STATE AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS MUST BE MET ALONG THE GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT ADDRESSES THE POTENTIAL CONTAMINANTS FROM PREVIOUS MINING OPERATION. 
          UM, IF SUCH ISSUES EXIST, A MITIGATION PLAN WOULD BE REQUIRED. 
          NUMBER FOUR, PERMITS, UH, PRIOR TO INITIATING ANY MINING ACTIVITY, THE APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT A COPY OF STATE AND FEDERAL PERMITS TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          NUMBER FIVE SETBACK FROM RESIDENTS PRIOR TO ANY MINING ACTIVITY, THE 100 FOOT, A 1000 FOOT BUFFER AREA FROM THE CLOSES RESIDENTS MIS MUST BE SURVEYED AND CLEARLY DELINEATED NUMBER SIX, UM, MARKING OF THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY PROPERTY LINES MUST BE CLEARLY DEMARCATED, UM, DURING THE OPERATION NUMBER SEVEN, UH, STATES THAT THERE'LL BE NO BLASTING ON THE SITE. 
          UH, NUMBER EIGHT, UH, RESTRICTS THE HOURS OF OPERATION TO MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. 
          I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM, BUT NO MINING ALLOWED ON SUNDAY. 
          UH, THIS IS A FIVE-YEAR EXPIRATION. 
          SO, UM, THIS, UH, PERMIT, IF GRANTED WOULD BE VALID UNTIL SEPTEMBER 20, 26 AND ANY RENEWAL WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE FILED BEFORE THAT DATE. 
          AND LASTLY, OUR TRANSFER OF LEASE, UM, CONDITION THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          AND I'LL SAY HERE TO FIELD QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          AGAIN, THANK YOU, MS. SHERRY. 
          SO THERE ARE A LOT OF, UM, BUFFERS IN HERE, SO LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I'VE GOT IT STRAIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THREE D SAYS IF THEY WERE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF AN ADJOINING PROPERTY BOUNDARY, MINE RELATED DISTURBING ACTIVITIES WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET, THEN THEY HAVE TO MARK THE BOUNDARY. 
          UH, THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THAT IS REFERENCING MARKING. 
          NOW WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT? UM, I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD JUST BE TO, TO, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT, THAT IT IS GOING, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MINING OPERATION AND IT ALSO IS GOOD FOR THE APPLICANTS SO THAT THEY KNOW HOW FAR THEY ARE FROM THE RESIDENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT THEN YOU GET TO THREE C AND IT SAYS, OH, THOSE ARE THE STREAMS. OKAY. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 50 FOOT BUFFER ZONE, UNDISTURBED, VEGETATION, VEGETATION, VEGETATION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S BUFFERS. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S THE STREAMS. OKAY. 
          THEN H MINING ACTIVITIES MUST BE SCREENED BY ONE OR COMBINATION OF THE FOLLOWING A HUNDRED FEET OF UNDISTURBED FOREST WITHIN THE PERMIT BOUNDARY PARK. 
          THEY HAVE TO MARK THAT THEY'RE A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. 
          AND THEY ALSO HAVE IT HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET OF BUFFER A BUFFER. 
          CORRECT. 
          WHICH COULD BE ANY OF THOSE, UM, ITEMS OR ANY, OR A COMBINATION OF, OF THOSE OF THOSE ITEMS. SO, SO IN AN AREA, EXCUSE ME. 
          SO IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S NOT APPROPRIATE VEGETATION, THEY COULD SUPPLEMENT WITH THOSE OTHER. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS UNDER ITEM J AND THAT'S THE GROUNDWATER PROTECTION PLAN, AND I KNOW THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROBABLY HAVE SOME PRETTY SERIOUS REQUIREMENTS ON THAT I CAN IMAGINE, BUT IT ALSO GOES ON TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, POS, OKAY, LET'S SEE, IN ADDITION TO STATE AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, THE APPLICANT MUST INCLUDE A GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          AND IF LOOKING AT MERCURY CYANIDE AND OTHER SIMILAR MATERIALS, IF SUCH ISSUES EXIST, A MITIGATION PLAN WILL BE REQUIRED. 
          SO WHO DETERMINES THAT? SO I, HMM, COOL. 
          AND IF I MAY, I MAY TRY THAT. 
          I KIND OF WANT, I KIND OF ZONED IN ON THAT ONE. 
          LET ME JUST TRY TO JOIN A LITTLE BIT. 
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IT SAYS, IN ADDITION TO STATE AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS, THE APPLICANT MUST INCLUDE A GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          DO YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO GET A GROUND WATER MANAGEMENT PLAN FROM THE APPLICANT. 
          THAT'S CERTAINLY WHAT IT IMPLIES THAT HE WOULD NEED TO DO BEFORE. 
          SO IN A GROUNDWATER PLAN, ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO ADDRESS THE POTENTIAL FOR ACID MIND DAMAGE AND POSSIBLE MERCURY CYANIDE THAT HAS TO BE IN THERE. 
          BUT I THINK, I THINK THEN IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE THEN THERE'S SUCH ISSUES A MITIGATION PLAN. 
          SO WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO DETERMINE? AND MAYBE THESE ARE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          YEAH. 
          THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF WOULD ALSO KNOW. 
          SO AGAIN, THIS IS OUR SECOND TIME. 
          THESE CONDITIONS ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME. 
          SO I'M HOPING, AND I THINK THIS WAS KIND OF NEW THE FIRST TIME. 
          I THINK WE HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS AND AGAIN, I'LL, DON'T HIM SPEAK FOR THE BOARD, BUT, BUT I THINK A LOT OF US SAID, WELL, THIS IS VERY REGULATED. 
          OUR, OUR, OUR ROLE IS NARROW, BUT I THINK MS. LAST LAB PICKED UP ON AND I SEE THINGS IN HERE, LIKE, WELL, IF WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THEM TO THESE THINGS, LIKE THIS ONE IS A GREAT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TO GET A GROUNDWATER, GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN IN PLACE. 
          SO I THINK WE, WHAT I THINK AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE BOARD, BUT THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM STAFF THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE FULFILLED. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I THINK YOU HAVE, THEY HAVE THAT GROUNDWATER PROTECTION PLAN. 
          AND THEN, UM, ONE OTHER ONE JUMPED OUT AT ME. 
          I DON'T REMEMBER THE, UM, OH, UH, THE POD YOU FIRST WANT TO PLAN FOR DEVELOPMENT. 
          IT SAYS IF APPLICABLE MINING SHALL NOT BEGIN UNTIL A POD IS APPROVED, WHAT ARE THE TRIGGERS TO REQUIRE? DO WE, DO WE KNOW AT THIS POINT, WHETHER A PRD WILL BE REQUIRED ON THIS PROJECT, I'M SUSPECTING, UM, AS WE DID WITH THE OTHER, UM, APPLICATION, SINCE THERE'S NO BUILDING BEING, UM, NO PARKING'S REQUIRED THINGS ALONG THOSE, IT WOULD JUST REQUIRE A WAIVER. 
          THAT WOULD BE A WAY FOR STAFF TO DETERMINE THAT, UM, THE, THE LIMITS OF DISTURBANCE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S ONLY IF HE'S GOING TO DO ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS ON THERE THAT WE COULD GET IT TO A PUD. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT MAYBE, I THINK SOME OF THESE THINGS MAY BE, I REMEMBER LAST TIME I GET IT. 
          AND I THINK LAST TIME THE APPLICANT KIND OF BEING IN THE BUSINESS, HE HELPED US OUT LAST TIME TOO ON YET AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE SHERRY AT THIS POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, RECOGNIZE THE APPLICANT FROM LAST TIME. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN AND HELP US OUT. 
          IF YOU WOULD BUSH 51, 34 CARTERSVILLE ROAD, UH, FOR THE GROUNDWATER PROTECTION PLAN, WE DON'T COME ANYWHERE NEAR THE GROUND WAR WE'RE WAY ABOVE IT TO GET INTO AN AREA WHERE YOU WOULD BE THAT DEEP IN THE AREA OF GOOCHLAND, WHERE WE ARE BASED ON THE SURROUNDING WELL DEPTHS, WE'D HAVE TO BE ROUGHLY ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET TO EVEN GET ANYWHERE NEAR IT. 
          SO IT REALLY DOESN'T COME INTO PLAY. 
          UM, THE WATER THAT WE HAVE WITH OUR RETENTION PONDS IN THAT, IF YOU REMEMBER FROM LAST TIME I TESTED IN THE STATE TESTS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE MINING ACIDS. 
          AND I REGULARLY TREAT THAT WATER WITH BAKING SODA, WHICH IS ONE OF THE BEST THINGS FOR MINING ACIDS AND IS GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT TOO. 
          SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT MINING ACIDS, WHICH ARE JUST NATURAL OCCURRING ANYWAY, AND WE'RE ALREADY REMOVING THE MERCURY AND THERE SHOULD BE NO CYANIDE OR ANYTHING ELSE OUT THERE. 
          SO THERE SHOULD BE NOTHING ABLE TO EVEN GET TO THAT DEPTH. 
          SO IN A SENSE, ARE YOU, ARE YOU DOING SURFACE CLEANING OR HOW, HOW DEEP ON THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, THE DEEPEST WE WOULD PROBABLY BE IS THREE TO FOUR FEET. 
          OKAY. 
          BEST I CAN TELL EVERYTHING IS STILL IN PILES. 
          UH, THE MOSS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THEY HAD DONE A RECLAMATION WHERE THEY HAD SPREAD THIS STUFF OUT ACROSS THE FIELDS WHERE THEY DID HAVE EXISTING PITS FROM THE OLD MINING THAT THEY HAD FILLED IN THOSE, WE HAD TO GO DIG BACK OUT. 
          AND IF YOU REMEMBER, LAST TIME WE, WE HAD MET, I HAD TALKED ABOUT HOW WE DIG SOME OF THAT OUT. 
          AND AS I GO, I BACKFILL. 
          SO THERE'S NOTHING OPEN. 
          UH, BUT EVEN THAT WAS LIMITED PITS. 
          TYPICALLY DEEPEST WE'VE HAD TO GO WAS 15 FEET SO FAR. 
          AND I DON'T SEE HAVING TO GO ANY DEEPER THAN THAT. 
          SO BEFORE YOU START PUTTING EQUIPMENT OUT THERE, YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THE PITS AND THE AREAS THAT YOU DON'T. 
          OH YEAH. 
          I GO THROUGH ALL THAT BECAUSE IT'S, THOSE ARE SAFETY HAZARDS. 
          RIGHT. 
          I HAVE TO DO THAT FOR THE STATE LONG BEFORE I GO OUT THERE, BECAUSE ONE OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS WE HAD WAS WHEN, WHEN THE MINING OPERATIONS END, DID YOU HAVE TO FENCE OFF ALL OPEN ROADS? WELL, IT SAID NO PITS WILL BE DUG. 
          AND THEN IT SAYS UPON CESSATION OF MINING OPERATIONS, THE OPERATOR MUST EFFECTIVELY CLOSE ALL OR FENCE, ALL ROADS, OPENINGS AND PITS. 
          WELL, I THOUGHT, WELL, YOU'RE NOT DIGGING PITS. 
          SO WHAT NO. 
          WELL, SEE IF YOU HAVE EXISTING PITS THAT ARE OUT THERE, WHICH A LOT OF THESE MINDS DO, WE'RE REPLICATING THOSE, WE'RE FILLING THOSE IN. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WITH THE STATE IS TAKE CARE OF ALL OF THAT. 
          SO YOU WON'T HAVE ANY PITS TO FENCE OFF, UH, TRENCHES, NONE OF THAT. 
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AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE CREATING ANY MORE THAT WHEN YOU'RE DONE, IT'S ACTUALLY, WE ONLY DIG WHAT I HAVE TO DIG TO GET OUT WHAT I HAVE TO GET OUT AND THAT'S IT. 
          AND THAT ALL GETS FILLED RIGHT BACK IN. 
          AND AS I'M, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER FROM LAST TIME WHEN I WAS EXPLAINING, AS THE RETENTION PONDS ARE FILLING UP WITH THE MATERIAL WE'RE CLEANING THAT GETS DUG BACK OUT AND THAT'S WHAT GOES RIGHT BACK IN THE PITS. 
          SO IT GOES THROUGH THE SYSTEM GETS CLEANED AND THEN GOES RIGHT BACK ON THE, ON THE PLACE WHERE IT CAME FROM. 
          AND OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T DO ANY BLASTING. 
          THAT'S NOT A NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          I HAVE NO INTEREST IN ATTEMPTING TO BLOW MYSELF UP. 
          YEAH, DON'T DO THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I HAVE A HARD ENOUGH TIME WITH WHAT I DO. 
          NO, NEVERMIND THAT TOTALLY DOESN'T ADD TO THE MIX. 
          UM, SO, SO I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE, I'M JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF BONDS AND MINERALS COMMUNICATES WITH OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT, UM, I IMAGINE WE, WE HAVE A PLAN TO WORK WITH THEM. 
          IF THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS US, THEY'LL LET US KNOW. 
          AND WE'LL ADDING INSPECTORS OUT EVERY THREE MONTHS AT A MINIMUM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HE'S OUT THERE ALL THE TIME AND I'M ALWAYS IN COMMUNICATION WITH THEM. 
          AND IF I HAVE A QUESTION, I CALL HIM AND HE GIVES ME DIRECTION ON WHAT TO DO OR HOW TO RECTIFY IT. 
          GOTCHA. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          UM, KIND OF RAN WITH THIS, BUT ARE THERE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT MR. SPOON HOUR? YES. 
          THANK YOU, MR. BUSH. 
          UM, IN STAFF'S REPORT, IT SAYS IT REFERENCES THE OTHER MINDSIGHT THAT WE APPROVED LAST YEAR, BUT IT SAYS MINING ACTIVITY HAS NOT BEGUN FULL OPERATION. 
          WHAT STAGES IS THAT? WELL, IT WAS IN FULL OPERATION. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WHEN THEY DID THE OLD RECLAMATION, THERE WAS A LOT OF STONE THAT WAS IN PILES. 
          THEY BULLDOZED ALL THAT TOGETHER. 
          WELL, WE HAD PURCHASED A BRAND NEW WASH PLANT OUT OF CALIFORNIA FOR $50,000. 
          WE GET IT OUT THERE AND SET IT UP. 
          AND THERE'S SO MUCH STONE THAT IF I WAS RUNNING 40 TONS AN HOUR, 30 TONS OF THAT WAS STONE WAY TOO SLOW. 
          SO THAT HAD TO GET PULLED OUT. 
          WE HAD TO REVERSE GEARS AND NOW I JUST HAVE TO RE CRUSH EVERYTHING. 
          THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH STONE TO DO IT THE WAY WE WERE DOING IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, STILL WOULD BE UP AND RUNNING IF IT WASN'T FOR THE COVID DELAYS AND YOU CAN'T GET PARTS ANYWHERE. 
          AND HOW FAR FROM, UM, THIS NEW SITE IS THE OLD SITE, UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY CONNECTED AND YOU CAN DRIVE RIGHT THROUGH. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. 
          MAYBE A QUARTER A MILE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          CAUSE I WAS THINKING SINCE IT'S OUR SECOND, WE'VE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS AS FAR AS I KNOW, FROM THE, FROM THE PREVIOUS SPINE, WHICH IS, AND, UH, THEY WERE ACTUALLY, UM, THIS PROPERTY HERE WAS PART OF WHAT THE OLD MOSS MINERS WERE DOING. 
          JUST WASN'T PART OF THE MOSS. 
          MINE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY QUESTIONS ON MINING? UM, ALRIGHT. 
          NO QUESTIONS. 
          IT'S IT'S GOOD. 
          I THINK, I THINK WE'VE ADDRESSED EVERYTHING, UH, SETBACKS FROM RESIDENTS. 
          I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING. 
          WE HAD A HUNDRED. 
          I KNOW. 
          AND AGAIN, THIS MIGHT BE FOR STAFF, BUT YOU CAN, UH, I'M COMFORTABLE IF YOU TRY TO FEEL THAT IF YOU'RE OKAY. 
          THE, WE SAW A SCREEN THAT SHOWED THE APPROXIMATE BOUNDARIES. 
          HOW, HOW, HOW DO YOU COMMUNICATE TO US WHERE THE OPERATIONS BOUNDARIES REALLY ARE AND HOW, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE NOT COMING WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF IT. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR, UH, PROPERTY LINES, UH, NOWHERE NEAR ANY OF THE DWELLINGS, UM, ON THE MOSS, MR. MYERS IS ACTUALLY THE CLOSEST NEXT DOOR. 
          UM, SO THAT CIRCLE IS THAT, IS THAT AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF IT? YEAH, THAT'S, IT'S THAT AREA IT'LL BE AN ACRE WITHIN THAT AREA. 
          UM, IT'S ALL TIMBER. 
          SO IF YOU'RE OUT THERE STANDING THERE, YOU CAN'T EVEN HEAR ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, FROM THE NEXT HOUSE OVER. 
          I HONESTLY COULDN'T EVEN TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE BEEN OUT THERE WHERE THAT HOUSE IS. 
          MR. LUMPKINS THE APPROVAL FOR THE CUP. 
          ALTHOUGH THERE'S A LARGER RED LINE THAT SHOWS THE PROPERTY, THE CUP APPROVAL IS ONLY FOR THE ONE ACRE. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE THIS ACTIVITY CAN OCCUR. 
          AND I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE, HOW, HOW CAN, HOW DO WE, WHAT RESPONSIBILITY DO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GENERALLY IN THAT AREA, BUT I, UH, THAT ACTUALLY FALLS ON THE STATE BECAUSE UNDER THE, MY REQUIREMENTS WITH THE STATE, ONCE I SET THAT BOUNDARY WITH THEM AND THE DRAWINGS AND ALL THAT I DO, THEY RESTRICT ME TO STEPPING OUTSIDE OF THAT. 
          SO, UH, I GUESS TO THE COUNTY'S BENEFIT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT INSPECTING BECAUSE THEY DO. 
          IF I STEPPED OUTSIDE OF THAT, HE WOULD SEE IT AND SHUT ME DOWN LONG BEFORE COUNTY WOULD EVEN KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU, MR. VICIOUS. 
          [04:50:01]
ALL RIGHT. 
          SO WE'VE HEARD FROM PRESENTATION FROM THE COUNTY, THE APPLICANT LET'S MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FROM BIG DOG RESOURCES, LLC, FOR MINING OPERATIONS OFF SHANNON HILL ROAD, SAME RULES APPLY COME FORWARD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES. 
          JONATHAN LAUGHED 1521 NANNY CAN READ. 
          UM, I HOPE YOU WILL APPROVE. 
          I SEE THIS AS BENEFITING THE ENVIRONMENT PACK THAT WE'RE REMOVING THE MERCURY THAT ALREADY DOES EXIST THERE. 
          UH, I THINK IT WAS A GOOD THING. 
          I AM CURIOUS IF STAFF IS TRYING TO INCUR SOME OVERTIME FOR THE APPLICANT IN THE APPLICATION, HE SAYS, HE'S GOING TO OPERATE FROM EIGHT TO FIVE. 
          AND THE APPLICANT STAFF REPORT SAYS FROM SEVEN TO SEVEN. 
          SO I'M NOT SURE IF THEY JUST THINK HE'S NOT WORKING HARD ENOUGH OR, UM, HOW THAT IS. 
          BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I HOPE YOU'LL VOTE FOR IT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. HALL, ANYBODY ELSE SEEING GOING, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS APPLICATION AND BOARD, ANY DISCUSSION MOTION? UM, SO MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE APPROVAL OF, UH, CU 2 0 2 1 0 0 0 0 6, BIG DOG RESOURCES, LLC. 
          UM, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OUTLINED IN OUR PACKET. 
          THANK YOU BOTH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION AND SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. 
          YES, YES, YES. 
          MS. . 
          YES. 
          MR. LUMPKINS. 
          YES. 
          AND THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. SHERRY, AND THANK YOU, MR. BUSH. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          READY? ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, OUR SEVEN PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT APPLICATION BY ALAN MYERS, VA INC. 
          THE PROPER AMENDMENT TO A REZONING CASE MS. SHERRY GONNA 
          [7. 4111: District 4 - RZ-1996-00006A Application by Allan Myers VA, Inc.]
LEAD US THROUGH THIS ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED TWO APPLICATIONS, SO THERE'S A COMPANION CASE. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M GOING TO BE COMBINING THE TWO PRESENTATIONS, UM, HOPEFULLY CLEARLY, UH, SHOWING YOU HOW THEY KIND OF CONNECT AND, UM, AT THE END, UM, THIS WOULD REQUIRE TWO SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TWO SEPARATE BEDS. 
          YOU CAN COMBINE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT AT THE END YOU MUST HAVE TWO SEPARATE VOTES PRESENTATION, ONE HEARING. 
          THANK YOU, MISS MCCAIN. 
          UM, YES. 
          SO, UM, THE APPLICANT ALLAN MYERS OPERATES AN EXISTING ASPHALT PLANT ON, UM, ASHLAND ROAD. 
          UM, THEY'VE SUBMITTED TWO APPLICATIONS AS I HAD MENTIONED. 
          UH, ONE IS A PROFFER, A AMENDMENT TO A REZONING CASE FROM 1996 TO REDUCE A PERIMETER BUFFER. 
          UM, THE SECOND APPLICATION IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR, UH, TO ALLOW FOR AN ASPHALT MIXING PLANT. 
          UM, IT'S ADDING A PARCEL TO AN EXISTING, UH, CUP, AND IT'S ALSO REQUESTING TO DELETE A, UH, BUFFER THAT EXISTS BETWEEN THE TWO LOTS THAT I'LL SHOW YOU WHEN I GET TO, UM, SOME OF THE GRAPHICS IN HERE. 
          UM, UH, SO AS I HAD MENTIONED WHEN, UH, PRESENTATION COMBINED WHEN COMBINED PRESENTATION. 
          SO, UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE, UM, ALLAN MYERS ASPHALT PLANT IS, UM, ON ASHLAND ROAD IN THE EAST NORTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY, UH, THE PROPERTY, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED IN THE RED, UH, OUTLINE. 
          SO THERE'S TWO SEPARATE, UM, PARCELS. 
          UH, BOTH OF THOSE ARE ZONED AND TO, UM, AS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, UM, THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ARE ZONED AGRICULTURAL, UH, THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE, UM, SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AS INDUSTRIAL AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ARE DESIGNATED AS FLEXIBLE. 
          UM, THIS IS THE AERIAL OF THE SITE. 
          UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE AREAS 
          [04:55:01]
TO THE NORTH OF OUR ZONE THAT I MENTIONED ARE ZONED, AGRICULTURAL STILL HAVE AGRICULTURAL USES, WHEREAS THE, UM, THE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH, UM, OUR INDUSTRIAL AND MINING. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THE CA UH, THE APPLICANT CURRENTLY OPERATES AN ASPHALT PLANT ON TWO SEPARATE PARCELS ON THOSE PARCELS ARE IDENTIFIED WITH THE PURPLE WRITING. 
          UH, THE APPLICANT RECENTLY ACQUIRED AN ADJACENT PROPERTY AND INTENDS TO RELOCATE A PORTION OF THE FACILITY TO THE NEW PROPERTY. 
          AND THAT IS THE, UM, THE PARCEL THAT HAS IDENTIFIED IN BLUE WITH NEW PARCEL ON THE NEW PARCEL, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL INCLUDE A COMBINATION OF RELOCATING EXISTING EQUIPMENT AND NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          UH, SO FOR THE FIRST APPLICATION, THE PROFFER AMENDMENT, UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT A 50 FOOT PROFFERED BUFFER ON THE NORTH AND EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY BE REMOVED. 
          UM, THEY STILL WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE 30 FOOT CODE REQUIREMENT, A BUFFER BETWEEN AN  ZONING DISTRICT AND AN AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT. 
          SO WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS CONSISTENT WITH, UM, HOW THE PLAN WOULD BE ENFORCED. 
          I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, AS THE CODE WOULD BE TODAY. 
          UM, SO YOU HAVE HERE, UM, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT, I TRIED TO MARK IT UP. 
          UM, THE FIRST, UH, GRAPHIC IS AN EXHIBIT FROM THE 1996 IT'S CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THAT. 
          AND THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS WHERE THE, UM, THE 50 FOOT BUFFER IS REQUIRED BASED ON THAT REZONING CASE. 
          AND THEN ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS THE NEW EXHIBIT WITH THE CUP APPLICATION. 
          SO THIS APPLICATION SHOWS, UM, THE TWO PARCELS, UH, BEING COMBINED AND, UM, THE RED LINES ARE SHOWING WHERE THEY ARE ASKING TO HAVE THAT, UM, BUFFER, UH, REDUCED TO THE 30 FOOT REQUIREMENT FOR THE DISTRICT. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE WHERE I HAVE, UM, THE BLUE WRITING, UM, AND THE ARROW POINTING TO A RETURN TO THE STORMWATER POND, UH, THE BMP WILL ACTUALLY, UM, UH, TECHNICALLY ADD SOME ADDITIONAL DISTANCE BETWEEN THE, UM, THE USE AND THE AGGREGATE CULTURAL PROPERTY. 
          UM, SO FOR THE REZONING CASE, UM, THE, UH, PROFFERS WERE PROPER. 
          ONE WAS AMENDED, UH, BASICALLY, UH, UH, PROVIDING THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE REZONING CASE AND THE REQUIREMENT TO THE NEW CUP, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN. 
          SO AS, AS I SHOWED YOU BEFORE, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN ACTUALLY SHOWS THE 30 FOOT, THAT WAS THE ONE THAT SHOWED THE BMP. 
          SO THIS, IN THE ZONING CASE, IT'S ACTUALLY TYING THE, UM, TYING THE USE TO THOSE, UH, TO THAT, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN WITH THE CUP. 
          OF COURSE, THE UNDERLINED IS THAT THE NOT UNDERLINED IS WHAT'S HOW IT CURRENTLY READS. 
          AND THE UNDERLINED IS WHAT IS BEING IS THE ADDED AMENDED LANGUAGE. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY, THANKS. 
          YES. 
          UM, AND, UH, THE SECOND, UH, SECOND PROFFER IS BASICALLY JUST DOING A LITTLE CLEANUP, UH, CORRECTING THE ACREAGE THAT WAS REFERENCED IN THE, UH, 1996, UM, UH, REZONING CASE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FOR THE CON UH, THE CUP AMENDMENT, UH, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW THE ASPHALT PLANT TO OPERATE, TO OPERATION, TO EXPAND ONTO A NEWLY ACQUIRED PARCEL. 
          UM, UH, SO IT WOULD BE ADDED TO THE EXISTING OPERATION. 
          IT WOULD REMOVE A 30 FOOT WIDE LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT EXISTS BETWEEN THE TWO PARCELS TODAY, UM, AND THE APPLICANT, UM, UM, WHEN, WHEN, UH, THE, THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT. 
          SO THE TWO PARCELS WILL BECOME ONE, UH, ONE LAWTON. 
          THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THAT APPLICATION IN OUR OFFICE RIGHT NOW I'M READY TO BE REVIEWED. 
          UH, THIS IS THE EXHIBIT FROM THE 2013 CEP. 
          UM, SO THIS IS THEIR EXISTING, UM, UH, THE ONE THAT IS THE PARCEL THAT IS ON THE SOUTH, THIS IS WHERE THEIR EXISTING OPERATION IS. 
          AND TO THE NORTH, THIS IS WHERE THE NEW PARCEL WOULD BE ADDED DURING THAT CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS. 
          THEY DID NOT OWN THAT OTHER PIECE. 
          SO, WHICH WAS WHY THE, UH, WE REQUIRED THEM TO HAVE THAT BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO YEARS IS THAT IT'S JUST SORTA SUM, SUM THIS UP. 
          UM, THE, UH, NEW, UH, PIECE OF PROPERTY ATTITUDE, THIS OPERATION WOULD BE UP HERE AND, UH, THE NORTH, THIS IS THE EXISTING PERIMETER, UH, BUFFER TO THIS, UH, UH, THIS LOT. 
          THERE'S A BUFFER REQUIRED HERE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO, UH, ASKING TO REMOVE. 
          AND THEN, THEN THEY WOULD COMBINE THE TWO LOTS. 
          AND LASTLY, UM, THIS IS, UM, APPROVED ORIGINALLY FOR AN ASP WALT PLANT. 
          THE COMMUNITY MEETING WAS 
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HELD IN MAY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER, MR. SPOON HOWER, AND MR. SHARPER AND ATTENDANT IN ATTENDANCE. 
          THE APPLICANT REVIEWED THE, UH, REQUEST, UH, FOR BOTH THE PROFFER AMENDMENT, AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONAL USE AMENDMENT. 
          AND NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC ATTENDED AT THE AUGUST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON A FIVE ZERO VOTE. 
          UH, NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC AT, UM, SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING ON EITHER OF THESE APPLICATIONS. 
          SO, UM, FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WE HAVE, UM, STARTED OVER WITH OUR MORE STANDARD, UH, CONDITIONS. 
          I DID HIGHLIGHT THE, UM, TO A, UM, THIS SHOWS, UH, WHAT IS THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO, TO DELETE THAT'S THE 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH DIVIDES THE TWO PROPERTIES CURRENTLY. 
          UM, THOSE ARE SOME CONTINUED TO BE BLACK LINES. 
          UH, THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, UM, FOR, UM, THE CUP AS YOU, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THAT APPLICANT, THE REZONING CASE I HAD ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE PROPER CHANGES. 
          SO THIS IS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 
          UH, NUMBER ONE ALLOWS FOR AN ASPHALT MIXING PLANT. 
          NUMBER TWO REQUIRES A CUP ACTIVITY CONFORMED TO THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS IN THE PRESENTATION. 
          UM, NUMBER THREE STATES THAT A CUP ACTIVITY SHALL NOT BEGIN UNTIL A PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED. 
          NUMBER FOUR REQUIRES A LANDSCAPE PLAN TO BE OBTAINED. 
          UH, NUMBER FIVE, A LIGHTING PLAN COVERING BOTH TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT. 
          UM, EXTERIOR LIGHTING MUST BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED AND APPROVED PRIOR TO INSTALLATION. 
          UH, NUMBER SIX ROADS ARE REQUIRES VIDOT APPROVAL OF THE ACCESS ROAD AND THAT MUD AND DEBRIS DEBRIS ARE, UM, NOT TRACKED. 
          SO IT MUST BE MAINTAINED IN THAT MANNER. 
          UM, THE ACCESS ROAD WILL, UH, NEED TO BE AT LEAST 20 FEET IN WIDTH AND PAID WITH GRAVEL. 
          UM, AND, UH, THAT HAS TO GO FOR A DISTANCE OF 200 FEET FROM THE JUNCTION OF THE PUBLIC ROAD. 
          UM, AND THAT THE ROADS MUST BE MAINTAINED. 
          UH, NUMBER SEVEN, BUFFER, A 30 FOOT BUFFER MADE OF EVERGREEN TREE SHALL BE MAINTAINED AROUND THE PERIMETER EXCEPT ALONG THE ACCESS ROAD, AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS THAT THIS TIES BACK TO THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AS WELL. 
          UH, NUMBER EIGHT, UM, STATES THAT NO CHEMICALS OR HAZARDOUS MATERIALS OTHER THAN FUEL AND SERVICE PARTS SHALL BE STORED AND ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY. 
          AND NUMBER NINE IS OUR STANDARD CONDITION, UH, REQUIRING THE PERMIT HOLDER TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY AS WELL AS ANY NEW OWNER OR A TENANT OF THE CONDITIONS. 
          AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. SHERRY ON THESE TWO APPLICATIONS, WE HAVE A PROPER AMENDMENT TO THE REZONING PORTION AND THEN A AMENDMENT TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 
          ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO. 
          MISS SHERRY. 
          UH, SO THE REZONING, THE PROPER AMENDMENT ON THE ZONING. 
          SO THE APPLICANT NOW OWNS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, SO THAT 30 FOOT BUFFER JUST DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, AND YOU HAD SAID THAT THEY WERE CONSIDERING A LOT LINE UP TO GET IT ALWAYS TO ONE PAR. 
          SO, UH, IS ANYTHING IN HERE CONDITIONED ON THAT? UH, NO. 
          THERE IS NOTHING CONDITIONING THAT, THAT IS A REQUIREMENT. 
          I DO. 
          I DID TALK WITH THE, UM, UH, THE PLATZ OFFICER TODAY AND THEY SAID THEY HAD EVERYTHING IN PLACE. 
          YOU JUST HAS NOT ACTED ON IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S FINE. 
          IT'S UP TO, I GUESS IT WOULD BE UP TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO DECIDE IF THEY WANTED TO DO THAT FOR WHATEVER THEIR REASONS ARE. 
          I'M JUST THINKING IF THEY END UP SELLING, IF THEY DON'T COMBINE THEM, THEY SELL THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. 
          I MEAN, YOU'D GET, GET A HECK OF A DEAL. 
          THEN WE HAVE NO BUFFERS. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          SO IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD PUT IN THERE THAT AS LONG AS THEY OWN THE PROPERTY, OR I DON'T CARE IF THEY COMBINED IT OR NOT, THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT AS LONG AS THEY OWN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY, BUT IF THEY DON'T, THEY SELL IT, THEN WE NOW HAVE NO BUFFERS. 
          YES. 
          MA'AM THESE ARE JUST RECOMMENDED CONDITION AT, AT THE BOARD'S LEISURE. 
          THEY CAN IMPOSE, UM, REQUIREMENTS OF ASSUMING THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. 
          I JUST THINK, UM, LET'S JUST GET A PROTECTION IN THERE AND THEY MAY HAVE NEVER WANT TO SELL IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          BUT, BUT IF THEY SELL IT, WOULDN'T THEY BE SELLING IT WITH THE NEW OWNER, KNOWING WHAT THE CURRENT CONDITION, BUT IT W IT DOESN'T MEET OUR ZONING REQUIREMENTS WITH NO BUFFER. 
          THEY'RE ACCEPTING NO BUFFER BECAUSE THEY OWNED THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IS THE WAY I'M READING IT. 
          UM, THIS LAST CLASS JUST, 
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UM, SO THE TWO PROPERTIES AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. 
          NO, THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING, THAT'S WHY I APPROACHED THE, UH, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, UH, PLATZ OFFICER TODAY. 
          UM, BUT JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE, UH, THE 30 FOOT BUFFER THAT WAS, UM, AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL CEO APPLICATION IS ACTUALLY MORE INTENSE THAN OUR UNDERLYING ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS. 
          SO IF BOTH PROPERTIES ARE ZONED AND TWO, UM, THERE WOULD, THERE WOULD BE NO BUFFER REQUIREMENT. 
          THERE WOULD BE A 10 FOOT SETBACK REQUIREMENT. 
          THE BUFFER WOULD NOT ACTUALLY BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. 
          UM, UH, THE 10 FOOT SETBACK SHOULD BE IN THE CONDITIONS AND MY OPINION IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY, GREAT. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          I MEAN, IT'S PROBABLY TOTALLY FINE THE WAY IT IS, BUT YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS HAVE SHARE AT THIS POINT? OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE APP WAS HERE AND HE DOES HAVE A, UH, PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          GOOD. 
          UH, HERE FROM ME. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO ADVANCE WITH US RIGHT HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN IF YOU NEED TO POINT ANYTHING HIT THIS, YOU HIT SEND, I'LL PUT A RED DOT ON HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR THE RECORD. 
          MY NAME IS TOM KLEIN. 
          I'M A PARTNER WITH THE FIRM TROUTMAN PEPPER HERE IN VIRGINIA. 
          AND I SERVE AS LAND USE COUNSEL FOR ALLAN MYERS FOR THIS PROJECT. 
          I'M ALSO ACCOMPANIED HERE BY GREG . 
          WHO'S THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT ALSO WITH ALLAN MYERS AND ALSO CHRIS TAYLOR. 
          WHO'S OUR CIVIL ENGINEER OF RECORD WHO HAD PRESENTED THE PLANS IS ALSO HERE. 
          IF THERE ARE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. 
          UM, THIS REALLY, I KNOW IT DOES SEEM LIKE A LOT OF APPLICATIONS AND A LOT OF CONDITIONS, BUT IN SUMMARY, WHAT, THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE ALAN MYERS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR SOME TIME OPERATING THAT EXISTING PLANT. 
          THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THIS LOT, THAT DIRECTLY ADJOINS THE SITE THAT THEY HAVE. 
          AND SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS THEY ACQUIRE THAT LOT. 
          THAT LOT NOW HAS A LOT OF OLD BUILDINGS AND OTHER THINGS, ALL OF WHICH, AND YOU'LL SEE FROM THE PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE CLEANED UP. 
          AND THEN THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE THE EXISTING FACILITY THAT THEY HAVE AND RELOCATE IT. 
          AND SO IT CAN BE OPERATED AS ONE CONSOLIDATED LOT. 
          THERE WAS A PARCEL WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING THEIR FACILITY. 
          THAT'S OWNED BY LUCK STONE. 
          THEY'VE BEEN LEASING THAT THEY'LL CONTINUE TO LEASE THAT, UH, TO, UH, HAVE SOME TRUCKS AND SOME OPERATIONS THERE, BUT THE ASPHALT FACILITY AND THAT EQUIPMENT IS GOING TO BE MOVED AS, ALONG WITH CONSTRUCTING SOME NEW BUILDINGS, ET CETERA. 
          SO REALLY WHAT WE HAD WAS WHEN THEY LOOKED AT THE SITUATION, YOU HAVE AN OLD SET OF PROFFERS, AND OF COURSE YOU HAD A USE PERMIT THAT NONE OF WHICH CORRESPONDED TO TRYING TO DEVELOP IT AS ONE CONSOLIDATED LOT. 
          UM, EXCELLENT QUESTION ABOUT THE LOT LINE. 
          YES. 
          BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ONE SITE. 
          WE ARE GOING TO VACATE THAT LOT LINE. 
          I'M SURE THAT'LL BE DONE. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'LL, IT'LL HAVE TO BE DONE OBVIOUSLY AS PART OF OUR SITE PLAN APPROVAL BEFORE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, OTHERWISE WE'LL HAVE A PROPERTY LINE IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH WILL BIFURCATE OUR SITE, SO WE WE'D HAVE TO APPLY WITH THAT. 
          SO, SO THAT'LL BE TAKEN CARE OF IS PLANNING A DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, AGAIN, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE DID HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING BACK IN MARCH, UM, SUPERVISOR SHARP AND MR. SPOON HOWARD WERE KIND ENOUGH TO, AND SO WE DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF AND ALL, OBVIOUSLY THE COMMUNITY WAS NOTIFIED BEFORE THAT. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAD THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL. 
          WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY UNDO THE OLD USE PERMIT CONDITIONS AND, AND FIX THE PROFFERS. 
          WE'VE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH THE, UM, THE PLANNING DIRECTOR AS WELL TO TRY TO GET THAT IRONED OUT. 
          SO WITH THAT, I WANT TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. . 
          WE HAVE A VERY, I KNOW THAT YOUR 10 MINUTE RULE AND MR. CHAIRMAN, SO WE WILL, WE WILL TRY TO STICK FOR THAT, BUT WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO LET YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ALAN MYERS BECAUSE YOU SEE THEIR TRUCKS AROUND VIRGINIA, BUT THEY REALLY ARE VERY BUSY IN VIRGINIA NOW. 
          AND THEY, AND JUST TO KIND OF SHOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO TO KIND OF CLEAN UP THE EXISTING SITE AND THE TYPE OF INVESTMENT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE AT THIS LOCATION. 
          AND THEN IF THERE ARE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT EITHER THE, UH, THE, THE STIPULATION, AND I WOULD SAY, I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WITH THAT ONE CONDITION WITH THE PROFFERS, THAT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ELIMINATING A BUFFER. 
          WHAT IT'S REALLY SAYING IS WE'RE GIVING THE ALTERNATIVE OF, IF THERE'S NOT A USE PERMIT FOR, WITH THE PROFIT PLAN IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE OLD CONDITION, BUT WHAT IT ALSO GIVES YOU OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO BE A PROFIT SITE PLAN AS APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. 
          SO THAT'S THE SECOND PART OF THAT CONDITION. 
          AND SO THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S WHY WE HAD IT STRUCTURED THAT WAY. 
          SO WITH THAT I, AND ALSO ONE FINAL POINT THAT BUFFER WHILE IT TECHNICALLY DOES CHANGE THE NEW PROFIT, YOU KNOW, THE NEW SITE PLAN CHANGES. 
          IT IS YOU'LL SEE, FROM THIS PLAN, PART OF THE PROFIT PLAN THAT GOES WITH THE USE PERMIT IS THAT THAT AREA WILL BE FOR THE BMP. 
          AND SO THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT PROBABLY A HUNDRED 
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PERCENT MORE SETBACK OFF THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY LINE TO THE NORTH. 
          AND MR. LAGO WILL POINT THAT OUT. 
          SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM AND WE'LL STAND BY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME'S GREG GLOB CO WITH ALLAN MYERS. 
          UH, I'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD, UH, AS THE OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE, UM, WE'VE BEEN AROUND, UH, FOR GEEZ OVER EIGHT YEARS. 
          UH, WE'VE BEEN IN THIS MARKET, UM, DOWN AROUND ROCKVILLE FOR GEEZ, BETTER PART OF A DECADE, DECADE AND A HALF. 
          SO, UH, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO GO ANYWHERE. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, IMPROVE OUR OPERATIONS HERE. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THE ADJACENT LAND, UM, AND IT'S THE RIGHT MOVE FOR US TO KIND OF MOVE OUR OPERATION OFF OF LUCK. 
          STONE REALLY GIVES US THE CAPACITY TO KEEP OUR TRUCK SHOP ON THE LUXTON LEASE. 
          UM, KEEP THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH LUCK GOING AND KIND OF MOVE OUR ASPHALT PLANT OPERATIONS TO A CONTIGUOUS PARCEL THAT WORKS OUT WELL FOR US. 
          UM, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE PLANT. 
          UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE CONSOLIDATING AND VACATING A LOT LINE. 
          UH WE'VE WE HAVE THAT, UH, PACKET OF INFORMATION WITH THE ZONING OFFICE RIGHT NOW. 
          WE'VE BEEN WAITING TO PROCESS THAT A LOT LINE VACATE UNTIL AFTER THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PROCESS, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T MUDDY THE WATERS AT ALL. 
          SO THAT IS FIRST ON MY AGENDA, AS SOON AS SOON AS WE HOPEFULLY GET APPROVAL. 
          UM, STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF PREPARING WITH THE, UH, ALL THE INS AND OUTS OF THE ZONING AND IN COMPLIANCE WITH EVERYTHING. 
          SO, UH, BASICALLY HERE'S THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THE SITE, UM, WITH THE NEW PARCEL TO THE NORTH, THE INTENT TO, TO REMOVE ALL THOSE OLD BUILDINGS, UM, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE OUR ASPHALT MIXING PLANT, UH, ON THAT NORTHERN PARCEL. 
          UM, WE DO HAVE, YEAH, HERE, YOU CAN SEE IT AGAIN. 
          UM, AND BASICALLY WE'RE SHIFTING THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE, UH, CURRENTLY LOCATING ON LUCK STONES, PROPERTY. 
          UH, IT'S KIND OF LIFT AND SHIFT EVERYTHING OVER TO OUR PROPERTY. 
          NOW, A REPLACEMENT OF COMPONENTS AS NEEDED. 
          UM, LIKE I SAID, CAPACITY IS NOT GOING TO INCREASE. 
          UM, WE'RE JUST GOING TO KIND OF MODERNIZE AND TOUCH UP AND REPLACE EQUIPMENT AS WE NEED TO. 
          UM, BUT NO INCREASE IN CAPACITY. 
          AND, UH, I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS ANYMORE MORE SO PENDING YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          YOU MAY WANT TO JUST POINT OUT THE NORTHERN AFRICA WENT BACK TO THAT ONE. 
          YEAH, THAT'D BE OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THIS IS, THANKS, TOM. 
          UH, AS YOU CAN SEE THEN THE NORTHERN BUFFER, THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY LINE, UH, WHERE WE DO, UH, BUT THE BNH ASSOCIATES PROPERTY. 
          WE DO HAVE SOMEBODY, THERE YOU GO. 
          LOOK AT THAT. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT. 
          UM, SO THIS PROPERTY LINE HERE, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AN ADJOINING NEIGHBOR, UH, WITH THE, UH, DIFFERENT ZONING. 
          SO WE'VE GOT THE BMP ON THERE, SO THAT SERVE TO ADD ADDITIONAL SEPARATION, UH, YOU KNOW, GREATER THAN A HUNDRED FEET BETWEEN, AND THAT'S AS A STORMWATER BMP, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO ENCROACH ON THAT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM PENDING, OBVIOUSLY SITE PLAN APPROVALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON WHAT THE ACTUAL SHAPE LOOKS LIKE. 
          BUT CONCEPTUALLY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WE GET ABOUT A A HUNDRED FOOT OR, OR GREATER BUFFER ALONG THAT NORTH NORTHEAST SIDE PENDING. 
          YEAH. 
          ANY QUESTIONS BOARD MEMBERS? ONE QUICK ONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE MOVING TO ASPHALT TO YOUR NEW PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE JUST PURCHASING. 
          UH, DOES THAT CHANGE IN ANY WAY TRAFFIC? NO, MA'AM ALL RIGHT. 
          GOOD ANSWER. 
          DID YOU HAVE SOME MORE SLIDES YOU WANT TO JUST SHOW US WE'RE WE'RE RUNNING AHEAD OF SCHEDULE ON THREE SPOKES. 
          WON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO IF WE GET OUT EARLIER THAN USUAL, CINDY ARISES, UH, WE'RE VERY AESTHETICALLY, UH, CONSCIOUS. 
          SO, UM, NORMALLY THESE CONTROL TOWERS ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, A MODULAR, UH, SHIPPING CONTAINER ON, ON STILTS. 
          SO WE DEFINITELY, UH, SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA TO HAVE A NICE APPEARANCE OF THINGS. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST RECENT FACILITIES THAT WE, UH, HAVE BUILT IN PENNSYLVANIA, A CONTROL TOWER WHERE THE OPERATORS OF THE PLANT LOAD, THE TRIAXIAL TO ASPHALT. 
          AND THEN THAT'S OUR LAB FACILITY, YOU KNOW, MODERN STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF, UH, VENEER STONE, WATER TABLE, BOARD, AND BATTEN FIBER CEMENT SIDING. 
          UM, SO IT'S A STATICALLY PLEASING FOR BEING AN INDUSTRIAL USE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NO OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE CAN HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, NEED TWO VOTES, BUT WE CAN HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SO ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD ON THE APPLICATION, TWO APPLICATIONS BY ALAN MYERS, UH, THE PROPER AMENDMENT OF THE REZONING CASE, AND THEN AMENDMENT TO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, 
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FOR THE ASPHALT MIXING PLANT, UH, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND OKAY. 
          LET ME DO REMARKS TO THREE MINUTES. 
          SEEING NO ONE COMING FORWARD. 
          WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THESE TWO APPLICATIONS AND BOARD. 
          ANY DISCUSSION, ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          HEARING NONE. 
          I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE PROFFER AMENDMENT TO THE REZONING CASE. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE PROPER AMENDMENT R Z DASH 1 9 9 6 DASH 0 0 0 0 6 A AT 2 1 8 7 ASHLAND ROAD AS PRESENTED. 
          SECOND. 
          THANK YOU. 
          BOTH ROLL CALL. 
          YES, YES, YES. 
          MR. SHAWN. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SECOND, UH, THE CUP MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, C U DASH 2 0 1 3 DASH 0 0 0 0 4 A FOR AN ASPHALT MIXING PLANT AT 2187 ASHLAND ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED. 
          SECOND. 
          THANK YOU BOTH. 
          UH, ANY DISCUSSION ROLL CALL? YES. 
          MR. SEAN. 
          YES. 
          MS. PETERSON. 
          YES, YES, YES, YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. KLEIN AND MR. LA LOBS LACO. 
          YEP. 
          YEP. 
          YEP. 
          THANK YOU BOTH. 
          AND THANK YOU, MS. SHERRY. 
          APPRECIATE THE WORK Y'ALL DID INITIALLY. 
          AND I KNOW, I KNOW, OF COURSE, LIKE SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE OUT THERE AND I THINK YOU CAN GET, WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK ON, ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO LOOK AT JANUARY TODAY'S ASPHALT PLANT IS NOT LIKE THE ONES THAT MANY YEARS AGO. 
          RISER NOT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, BOARD. 
          AND, UM, MS. SHERRY, DO YOU HAVE, I THINK THAT'S RIGHT. 
          GO. 
          CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDES YESTERDAY? PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER NINE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          [9. 4009: Decision on District 4 - RZ-2021-00004 - Application filed by ME PV4 LLC]
MR. LUMPKIN. 
          NOW YOU NOTICED PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THIS WAS DEFERRED FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSION. 
          SO THERE IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING ADVERTISED FOR THIS. 
          SO IT IS, BUT WE'VE HAD PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE. 
          SO YEAH, I THINK UNLESS THE BOARD FEELS LIKE YOU WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS MEET PERHAPS FOR A QUICK BREAK. 
          THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          SO WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY IN SIX AND A HALF MINUTES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
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PICK 
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IT 
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BACK UP. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE'RE ON PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER NINE, BUT IT IS, UM, THIS IS A DECISION WE'VE HAD THIS MATTER BEFORE US A FEW TIMES AND A COUPLE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS ON IT. 
          SO UNLESS BOARD MEMBER FEELS OTHERWISE, I'M GOING TO SUGGEST THAT THIS BE A DECISION ONLY HEARING. 
          UM, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT MAY HAVE A PRESENTATION. 
          I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT WE'LL START WITH MS. SHERRY TO GIVE US THAT STARTS OFF WITH THE INITIAL PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU, MR. LUMPKINS. 
          UM, YEAH, AS YOU MENTIONED THIS WORD A COUPLE OF TIMES, UM, SO MY PRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE, UM, RATHER BRIEF. 
          UM, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO GO BACK AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I DIDN'T COVER. 
          UM, YES. 
          UM, THIS REQUEST IS A REZONING, UM, THAT IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST PORTION OF THE, UM, THE COUNTY. 
          UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES IS IN RED. 
          IT IS IDENTIFIED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS FLEXIBLE, UH, SURROUNDING AREAS INCLUDE, UM, TO THE NORTHEAST. 
          THAT WOULD BE, UH, PARKSIDE VILLAGE SUBDIVISION, AS WELL AS SOME INDUSTRIAL USES TO THE SOUTH. 
          UM, HERE IS THE AREA OF THE PROPERTY WHERE YOU CAN SEE, UM, WHAT IS, UM, ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR THE AREA. 
          UH, THE PROPERTY, UM, IS ZONED, UM, A TWO AND AS I KIND OF SKIMMED OVER, IT WAS GOING SO FAST. 
          I FORGOT TO TELL YOU WHAT THE ACTUAL REQUEST WAS. 
          UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING, UM, TO REZONE A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY DO RPU D FOR, UM, 31 RESIDENTIAL, LOTS TO BE EXTENDED, UM, ON, UM, PARKSIDE VILLAGE, AS WELL AS, UM, A, UH,  REQUESTED ENDED AND TO REQUEST, UM, ALONG JOHNSON AND ASHLYNN ROADS. 
          UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT BRIEF HISTORY OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS EVENING, UM, BACK IN MARCH, A COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD, UH, 49, UH, CITIZENS WERE IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MAY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 
          UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED ON A FOUR, ONE VOTE APPROVAL. 
          UH, NOBODY SPOKE AT THAT PUBLIC HEARING, UM, IN JUNE, THIS APPLICATION WAS BEFORE THE BOARD AT A PUBLIC HEARING, AND IT WAS DEFERRED TO THE AUGUST MEETING. 
          UM, UH, THERE WERE CONCERNS IN REFERENCE TO THE IMPACT, UM, OF JOHNSON ROAD, UM, HEIGHT OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, BUFFERS, UM, UM, AND FOR THE INDUSTRIAL USES, UH, THE B ONE DISTRICT USES AND THE PROXIMITY OF THE DWELLINGS TO THE QUARRY KIND OF SUMS UP THE, UM, ISSUES DISCUSSED AT THAT MEETING. 
          AND THEN LAST MONTH, UH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UM, UM, HAD, UH, THIS CASE WAS DEFERRED TO TONIGHT. 
          UH, MOST OF THE DISCUSSION WAS IN REFERENCE TO, UM, TRAFFIC SAFETY, TRUCK TRAFFIC, AND THE DESIGN, SPECIFICALLY THE NARROWNESS OF JOHNSON ROAD. 
          UM, THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS, UH, SEPARATED OUT BY THE RESIDENTIAL RPU D DISTRICT AND THE B ONE AND M TWO DISTRICTS. 
          THEY INCLUDE, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLANS, UM, LIMITING, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL TO A 31 LOTS. 
          THEN THOSE WOULD BE AGE RESTRICTED RESTRICTIONS ON CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. 
          UM, THEY'VE OFFERED, UH, PROFFERS AS IT PERTAINS TO THE ARCHITECTURE AND BUILDING MATERIALS FOR THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UM, DISCLOSURES, UM, AS IT PERTAINS TO, UH, THEIR PROXIMITY TO THE QUARRY, AS WELL AS THE, UH, PROPOSED B ONE AND M TWO ZONES, AS WELL AS THE, THEY WOULD, UM, BE SUBJECT THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE AD VALOREM TAX BECAUSE OF THEIR, THE, UH, TCSD, UM, COMMITMENTS TO SIDEWALKS AND LANDSCAPING DEDICATION OF RIGHT AWAY, UM, ALONG ASHLAND ROAD BUFFERS, UH, TO THE STREAMS AND A CASH PROFFER TO, UM, OFFSET CAPITAL IMPACTS FOR THE 
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 ZONING DISTRICTS, THEY'VE, UH, PROHIBITED, UM, SOME OBJECTIONABLE USES, UM, BUFFER. 
          THEY PROVIDED THE SAME BUFFERS AS THEY DIDN'T THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, FOR THE, UM, ANY OUTDOOR STORAGE. 
          UH, THEY HAVE, UM, LIMITED THE LOCATION AND ADDED, UM, SOME SCREENING OF, UH, TO THAT, UH, PROPOSED USE. 
          UM, THEY'VE HAD, UH, TURN LANES. 
          I MEAN, THEY PROFFERED TURN LANES ON ASHLAND AND JOHNSON ROADS DEDICATED, UH, ASHLAND ROAD RIGHT OF WAY. 
          AND SOME JOHNSON ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, UM, BUILDING HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. 
          AND LASTLY, UM, PRIOR TO, UM, ANY APPROVALS OF THEY HAVE, UM, THEY WILL PROVIDE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AS WELL AS ELEVATIONS, OR JUST THE B ONE AND M TWO ZONING DISTRICTS. 
          UH, SINCE THE AUGUST BOARD MEETING, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS PROFFERED TO IMPROVE JOHNSON ROAD TO A LOCAL ROAD STANDARDS, UM, AS DEFINED IN THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE FAIR PLAN. 
          UM, UH, THIS DESIGN INCLUDES, UH, SEVEN FOOT DITCH, UH, SEVEN FOOT SHOULDERS AND 11 FOOT TRAVEL LANES. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT THE, UM, UH, UM, EXHIBIT THERE INDICATES, UH, THERE ARE SOME RAINY REMAINING CONCERNS WITH THIS APPLICATION. 
          UM, THE RPU D DISTRICT IS NOT CONSISTENT, UH, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS IT'S RESIDENTIAL. 
          UM, AND THEN THE B ONE AND M TWO, UM, THERE'S NO COMMITMENT TO PHASING PRIOR TO ANY OF THE RESIDENTIAL BEING BUILT. 
          UM, THE, UM, WHAT IS BEFORE YOU RIGHT NOW ARE BLACK LINES. 
          I'M ONLY SHOWING WHAT WAS CHANGED SINCE THE, UM, AUGUST MEETING, UM, UH, 18 C IS REALLY JUST A CLEANING UP, BUT THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL, UM, UM, NOTHING ADDITIONAL TO THE CASE OTHER THAN JUST SOME CLEANING UP OF SOME LANG LANGUAGE AS IT PERTAINS TO, UM, RIGHT AWAY. 
          UM, UH, NUMBER D THAT IS ACTUALLY, UH, PROFFERING WHAT I EXPLAINED IN THE PREVIOUS, UM, SLIDE SHOWING THAT, UM, THEY, THEY WOULD COMMIT TO, UH, IMPROVEMENTS ALONG, UH, JOHNSON ROAD FROM, UM, ALL THE WAY TO THE VERY END OF THEIR PROPERTY. 
          SO IT WOULD BE FOR THE ENTIRE PORTION OF, UM, JOHNSON ROAD THAT THEY WOULD BE DOING IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON THAT, UM, UH, EXHIBIT THAT I SHOWED YOU. 
          AND LASTLY, UM, NUMBER 22, UM, THIS IS A PROFFER THAT WAS ACTUALLY, UM, STAFF HAD ASKED THEM TO, UM, TO SUBMIT, UM, BECAUSE OF AN ADVERTISEMENT ERROR, UM, THE TCSD APPLICATION, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, UH, FULLY COMMITTED TO, UM, UH, THEY WERE NOT, WERE NOT ABLE TO HOLD THAT, UM, PLANNING, UH, HOLD THAT PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING, BUT BY PUTTING THIS PROFFER IN, IT DOES ALLOW, UM, UH, FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE A DECISION AND THEN NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT AS FAR AS, UM, THEM NOT BEING ABLE TO GO INTO THE, UM, INTO THE DISTRICT BEFORE THEY CONSTRUCT THAT SUMS UP MY PRESENTATION. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS, UM, AS MR. CHAIRMAN MENTIONED, THEY DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS LAST CLIP? WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN FIND IT VERY QUICKLY. 
          WE HAD AN EMAIL FROM, UM, UH, RESIDENTS CONCERNING CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, UH, FOR, UM, THE RESIDENTIAL TO COME, NOT COME THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION. 
          CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, CERTAINLY THE, UM, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A PROFFER THAT, UM, LIMITS, UH, GROUND MOVING, UM, UH, CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC TO GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT THEY CONSTRUCT A, AN ENTRANCE, A CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE, UM, THROUGH THE PROPOSED M TWO, UM, PROPERTY, UH, ALONG JOHNSON ROAD. 
          UM, IT, THIS PROFFER WOULD, HOWEVER NOT PREVENT, UM, UH, THE HOME BUILDING, UH, CONSTRUCTION. 
          IT'S JUST, IT'S INTENDED TO KEEP THE, THE LARGER EXCAVATION TYPE OF EQUIPMENT OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NOW, NOW MAYBE I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. 
          SO I THINK THE REQUEST WAS TO HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC NOT WIND THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, MA'AM THEY DID NOT FULLY COMMIT TO THAT. 
          THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO HAVING, UH, THE, THE LARGER EXCAVATION, LIKE THE GROUNDED AND WHEN THEY GO IN AND THEY, THEY, THEY CLEAR THE LAND. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, BUT AS FAR AS, UM, WHEN THE HOMES ARE BEING BUILT, UM, THE, UH, THE CONTRACTORS CAN ACCESS 
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THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, UH, THROUGH ALL THE BOOSTERS. 
          SO, UM, OKAY. 
          SO THE REQUEST WAS SPECIFIC REQUESTS AT HOME CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC BE ROUTED THROUGH JOHNSON THROUGH THE JOHNSON ROAD, NEW ENTRANCE, WHICH IS BEING CONSTRUCTED TO HANDLE THE HEAVY HANDLE HEAVY EQUIPMENT FOR SITE PREPARATION OF THE HOMES. 
          SO WE'RE TALKING THE SAME. 
          ARE WE SAYING THE SAME THING? I THINK SO. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT. 
          SO THE, UH, PICKUP TRUCKS, THE ELECTRICIANS, THE TRADES, AND ALL THOSE FOLKS, THOSE STILL WOULD GO THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IT'S JUST THE BIG EQUIPMENT. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. 
          I JUST WANT TO BE SURE. 
          I WAS CLEAR ON THAT BACK TO ANY OF THE PICTURES THAT SHOW, UM, SHOW WITH MATT, MATT BOOK ARE DUE AT THE ARIEL. 
          EITHER THIS PERSON WROTE US, THIS EMAIL SAID THAT, AND I THINK I WAS CONFUSED BY THE EMAIL AS WELL. 
          IT SAYS TO CONSTRUCT ENTRANCE FOR SITE PRO EAGLE HAS ALREADY AGREED IN THEIR PROFIT TO CONSTRUCT AN ENTRANCE FOR SITE PREPARATION AGREEMENT INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA FROM JOHNSON ROAD. 
          AND THAT'S GOING TO BE WHERE, AND I'M SURE WE KNOW ON THE, UM, EXHIBIT, THIS IS, UM, WHERE THEY HAVE SAID SOMEWHERE ALONG THE, UM, ACCESSING FROM JOHNSON, READ THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, AND I, I WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE EXISTING. 
          ACTUALLY, IT WOULD ONLY GO TO ABOUT HERE. 
          THIS IS WHERE THE, UM, THE PROPOSED 31 LOTS WOULD BE. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          UH, THEN THIS PERSON SAID, DOES IT NOT SEEM REASONABLE AT THE SAME ENTRANCE COULD BE USED FOR RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES AVOIDING THE WEAR AND TEAR ON THE RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED COMMUNITY STREETS AND SAVE THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTORS WINDING THROUGH THE RESIDENCES FROM EITHER ASHLAND OR POUNCEY TRACT. 
          UM, SO WHAT WAS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT? THAT THEY'VE SAID THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'RE THEY DON'T WANT TO LIMIT IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE LATER IN THE PROCESS, THEY'LL HAVE PROBABLY SOME OF THE TRADES MEN COMPANY, THE APPLICANT HAS NOT MADE THAT OFFER. 
          SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR, THEIR REASONING BEHIND IT WOULD BE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS, THIS PERSON LIVES IN PARKSIDE AND, UH, THAT'S THAT'S OKAY. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT? SURE. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OF COURSE. 
          WE'LL HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. 
          HI, GOOD EVENING AGAIN. 
          IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          UM, MY NAME IS NATALIE CROFT. 
          I'M THE DIRECTOR OF LAND PLANNING FOR EAGLE CONSTRUCTION HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I WILL KEEP THIS BRIEF, AS STAFF HAS FULLY EXPLAINED OUR CHANGES. 
          UM, LAST MONTH WE HEARD LOUD AND CLEAR THAT IMPROVING JOHNSON RED WAS A CRITICAL COMPONENT OF THIS PROPOSAL. 
          UM, WE WORKED WITH STAFF TO ENSURE THE CORRECT ROADWAY, DESIGN, LOCATION, AND LANGUAGE WERE PROFFERED. 
          AND WE DO APPRECIATE STAFF'S GUIDANCE ON THIS. 
          WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS AND COME BACK BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH THAT REVISION, UM, WE'RE PROFFERING THE JOHNSON ROAD FOR THE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY'S FRONTAGE, BE IMPROVED TO AN L TWO  50 STANDARD AS SHOWN HERE, UM, PRIOR TO A CEO BEING ISSUED ON ANY NEW STRUCTURE ON THE EMPTY PROPERTY. 
          SO WE ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE TCSD HEARING MUST BE POSTPONED UNTIL OCTOBER AND BASED ON STAFF'S REQUEST, WE'VE ADDED THE PROFFER THAT NO BUILDING PERMIT SHALL BE ISSUED ON THE  PROPERTY UNTIL SUCH AS THE PROPERTY IS ACCEPTED INTO THE TCSD. 
          YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE FULLY ADDRESSED THOSE ITEMS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS. 
          UM, OUR PROPOSAL NOT ONLY PROTECTS AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALSO PROVIDES ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL GROWTH WHERE THE COUNTY HAS DESIGNATED. 
          UM, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, MS. CROFT IS THE NUMBER 12, THE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. 
          IS THAT, HAS THAT BEEN CHANGED? THE CONSTRUCTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED THAT PROPER STANCE? YES, SIR. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I DID. 
          YEP. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THANK YOU, MS. CROFT. 
          SO NOW 
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THAT, UH, JOHNSON ROAD IS GOING TO BE IMPROVED, DOES THAT CHANGE AT ALL? ANY OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS? UM, THE, UH, LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS THAT WE HAD BEFORE GOING TO F D'S AND E'S, I'M NOT SURE IF IT CHANGES THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHAT IT DOES, IS IT IMPROVE THE SAFETY, UM, QUEUING IT, IT SHORTENS THE AMOUNT OF TIME SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO SIT AT THE STOP SIGN ON JOHNSON TURNING LEFT, OR RIGHT ON ASHLAND. 
          IT'S NOT BACKING UP FOR BOTH DIRECTIONS. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF IT HELPS THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, BUT AGAIN, IT CERTAINLY DOES HELP TRAFFIC FLOW. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S A GOOD ONE. 
          WELL, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THE TRAFFIC BACKING UP IS PART OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, RIGHT? SO ASHLAND ROAD AT COMMERCE DRIVE EASTBOUND LEFT TURN IS GOING TO AN F BY, UM, I BELIEVE SO. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          AND THAT IS DOWN NEAR THE ROCKVILLE COMER CENTER. 
          INDUSTRIAL. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I WAS HOPING, AND I DIDN'T REALLY SEE HOW IT COULD, FRANKLY, BUT I WAS HOPING MAYBE SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS BEING MADE MIGHT HELP THIS LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR ON JOHNSON WROTE IN THAT AREA WOULD BE THE INDUSTRIAL OR THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? IS, OR IS THAT A ROAD THAT PEOPLE FROM PARKSIDE WOULD BE USING AND ROAD? YEAH, THERE, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE ANY TRAFFIC FROM PARKSIDE SINCE THERE IS NO ACCESS TO PARKSIDE VILLAGE FROM JOHNSON ROAD. 
          YES. 
          MA'AM JOHNSON ROAD GOES DOWN AND THEN TURNS INTO A PRIVATE ROAD THAT RUNS ALL THE WAY OVER TO POUNCEY TRACK. 
          AND THAT PRIVATE ROAD IS THERE'S SIGNAGE THAT IT'S NOT FOR PUBLIC USE. 
          RIGHT. 
          THERE'S ALSO A GATE THAT CAN BE CLOSED. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE DON'T WANT TO GET OUT AND OPEN THE GATE EVERY TIME IT SUCH DON'T BE CLOSED OFF, BUT IT'S A LONG WAY AROUND. 
          I'VE DRIVEN IT NIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          YEAH, SHOULD'VE RE RAN A COMPARE, BUT WE EVEN, I THINK WE'VE COVERED ALL THE CHANGES YOU'VE COVERED WITH US, THE CHANGES FROM THE LAST TIME. 
          SO, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. 
          UM, SO I SEE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT, UH, DO THESE IMPROVEMENTS ON JOHNSON ROAD UNTIL, UM, THERE IS, WHAT DOES HE HAVE A SEAT? I LOST, UH, SYDNEY. 
          OKAY. 
          PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE FIRST CEO FOR ANY STRUCTURE BUILT ON THE PROPERTY. 
          ZONED M TWO. 
          UH, I SHOULD REMEMBER THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL NOW THE B ONE THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THE B ONE PROPERTY. 
          RIGHT? HOW HOW'S IT BEAT ONE PROPERTY GOING TO BE ACCESSED AGAIN? I SHOULDN'T HAVE THIS IN MY MIND. 
          MAYBE I CAN FIND FORGIVE ME. 
          WHICH, WHICH, WHAT NUMBER PROFFER WERE YOU READING FROM? WELL, I'M JUST, I'M JUST, I DON'T MEAN JUST STICK TO MY, LET ME STICK TO MY ONE QUESTION. 
          AND THAT IS IN MY QUESTION. 
          THE REASON I WAS STAFFING UP THE APPLICANT IS WHAT FINANCIAL, UM, BACKING DO WE HAVE THAT THIS, UH, JOHNSON ROAD IMPROVEMENT WILL BE DONE BECAUSE IT MAY NOT HAPPEN FOR YEARS AND YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. 
          SO IS THERE ANY FINANCIAL ASSURANCE THAT THE RESOURCES WILL BE THERE? YEAH. 
          MEANING LIKE BONDING OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES? NO, NOT, NOT UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY COME IN WITH THE, ON THE PLAN TO CONSTRUCT, TO CONSTRUCT THE ROAD. 
          THEN, THEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THAT'S WHEN THAT WOULD KICK IN. 
          SO IT WILL JUST BE A CONDITION, CORRECT. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          TIED TO CERTAIN, WHOEVER IT'S TIED TO, WHOEVER HAS TO, SO. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          YEAH, I GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          JUST HAVE, SORRY. 
          I HAVE TO THINK THAT THROUGH. 
          SO, AND STAFF IS STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THE LOCAL ROAD STANDARDS, LOCAL WITHOUT CURB AND GUTTER  YES, SIR. 
          AND THAT'S EASILY THAT STANDARD HAS TIES TO THE DIAGRAMS WE SAW ABOUT THE SEVEN FOOT YEAH. 
          TIES TO THE DIAGRAM AND THE EXISTING ROAD THAT WAS IN LOOKING AT IT. 
          THAT WAS THE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SECTION TO BE ABLE TO BE EASILY DESIGNED AND IMPROVED. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANOTHER QUESTION HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          I JUST WANT TO BE SURE WE'RE TIGHT. 
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UM, A PROFFER THAT SAYS THAT THEY WILL HAVE THAT'S THE SAME. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY, THEY WILL HAVE AN ENTRANCE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION VEHICLES. 
          UM, I THINK ALL OF THEM. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, INSTRUCTION NUMBER 12. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH, I'M ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE EMAIL. 
          HE WAS ALREADY AGREED IN THEIR PROFIT TO CONSTRUCT AN ENTRANCE FOR SITE PREPARATION FOR EQUIPMENT INTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT. 
          THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT NUMBER 12. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WHY CAN THAT NOT INCLUDE THE TRADES, THE SMALLER TRUCKS WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? IT CAN, THESE ARE PROFFERS. 
          IF THE APPLICANT DOES NOT OFFER IT, WE DO NOT GET TO IMPOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THEN MAYBE WE WANT TO, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK, I THINK I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THIS AND I WAS LOOKING AT THAT EMAIL, I WAS THINKING OF IT. 
          THE IDEA IS THEY'RE KIND OF PROBABLY BE DONE WITH THE HEAVIER COMING AT SOME POINT. 
          SO THEY PROBABLY LIKE TO NOT LEAVE THAT ROAD OPEN FOR THE WHOLE TIME. 
          THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICANT COULD TELL US THAT, BUT I THINK THE HOME BUILDING PURPOSES, THE TRADES ARE GONNA, THEY'RE GOING TO JUST PROBABLY, I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE KIND OF THINGS, THE CLARE AND GRADING, UTILITY INSTALLATION, ROADWAY, CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S GOING TO BE DONE AT SOME POINT. 
          AND THEN THEY'D LIKE TO PROBABLY CLOSE THAT, CLOSE THAT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ROAD OFF AND LET THE TRADES, WELL, MAYBE I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THIS ROAD IS GOING TO BE. 
          AND THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR, YOU WANT TO GO BACK? I THINK YOU POINTED OUT, YOU GOT TO SLIDE UP WHEN YOU POINTED OUT WHERE, UM, SO THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED IT WOULD GO THROUGH PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. 
          SO, UM, THAT'S THIS LATTER PART BASED ON THE CONCEPTUAL OR BASED ON, UH, THE, WHAT WE'D BEEN PRESENTED, THIS MIGHT BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MAYBE HAVE A MONTH COMING UP AND IS THAT SET A TEMPORARY ROAD? DO WE KNOW IT'S TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ROAD, RIGHT. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO THE ACCESS FOR THE TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION RED WOULD BE FROM JOHNSON ROAD AND WOULD ACCESS THE BACK OF THE NEWLY PROPOSED RPU D UM, THE LOTS I CAN, I HAVE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN IN MY PRESENTATION, BUT I CAN ALSO JUST, IT'S THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WE'VE SHOWN. 
          YEAH. 
          PREVIOUSLY HERE LET'S DO THIS. 
          THEN ALSO JUST BE ABLE TO, I HAVE ALL I HAVE, I HAVE PRETTY MUCH ALL THE SLIDES AT THE END, SO SORRY. 
          IT'S A LOT HARDER THAN I THOUGHT I GOING THE WRONG WAY. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          SO TELL ME WHEN TO STOP. 
          IS IT THAT ONE? YEAH, RIGHT THERE. 
          THIS ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          SO LET'S SEE. 
          IT WOULD LIKELY COME STRAIGHT UP THROUGH THE BACK AND ACCESS THE BACK OF THE SITE, THE BACK OF THE RPD PROPERTY. 
          AND THAT HASN'T BEEN A PROPER CONDITION. 
          THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HEARD EARLY ON WAS MORE ABOUT THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT, UM, AND NOT WANTING THOSE BIG YELLOW TRUCKS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, SMALLER TRUCKS, VANS, PLUMBERS, TRUCKS, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, WOULD BE USING THE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS. 
          UM, ANOTHER CONCERN OR ANOTHER SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT SMALLER TRADE TRAFFIC TO PREVENT OR TO HAMPER ANY SORT OF DEVELOPMENT ON THAT EMPTY PORTION. 
          UM, IT'S, IT'S BEING MARKETED, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE WANT IT TO BE DEVELOPED ASAP AND SO I WOULD NOT WANT THE TRADE TRAFFIC TO IMPEDE ANY M TWO DEVELOPMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHAT IS, WHAT'S THE LEVEL OF ROAD THAT YOU WOULD BUILD FOR THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT VERSUS IF YOU HAD TO PUT SMALL ON IT? THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THE ANSWER TO. 
          UM, I'M SURE THAT A TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION ACCESS DOES HAVE STANDARDS AND GUIDELINES PUT IN PLACE. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE. 
          I'M SURE IT WOULD BE MORE, UM, A BIGGER ROAD, BIGGER, MORE INTENSE, 
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UM, DEPTH OF STONE AND SUCH THEN FOR TRADES. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. 
          I CAN FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCES. 
          IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A MORE EXPENSIVE ROAD TO BUILD THAN IF YOU'RE JUST RUNNING HEAVY DUMP TRUCKS AND GRATERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT ACROSS IT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AS A TEMPORARY ROAD, WELL, THE ROADS THEMSELVES ON THE EXISTING PART, WILL THEY BE, THOSE ARE ALL STATE ROADS, CORRECT? YES. 
          THEY'RE PUBLIC ROADS. 
          WOULD THEY BE TURNED OVER TO THE STATE PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION? THEY MIGHT BE, UM, WAIT AND A, HAVE TO DO THE FINAL PAVING ON THOSE ONCE YOU FINISH THE THIRD ONE. 
          THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          I THINK IT DEPENDS ON THE TIMING AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS. 
          I KNOW THAT VIETNAM DOES COME AND DO AN INSPECTION ON THE ROADS BEFORE THEY ACCEPT THEM INTO THEIR SYSTEM AND ANY SORT OF PUNCH LIST ITEMS. ANY DEFECTS NEED TO BE REPAIRED BEFORE THEY ACCEPT THEM INTO THE SYSTEM. 
          MR. PETERSON, YEAH, THIS JETTA, WE DON'T WANNA GET TOO GRANULAR ON THIS AND THEN HOW YOU DO YOUR BUSINESS AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          I THINK THE CONCERN, UH, MAYBE A LEGITIMATE ONE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT REASONABLY NICE FROZE NOW AND HAVING ENOUGH TRAFFIC COULD DEGRADE THE QUALITY OF THEIR EXISTING ROADS. 
          EVEN AVITA HAS ALREADY DONE THEIR PUNCH. 
          PUNCHLESS ACCEPTED THEM IN. 
          IT'S A POST ACCEPTANCE DE DEGRADATION, I THINK THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. 
          AND SO THAT WOULD TELL ME THAT YOU'RE DRIVING MORE BY GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT THAN YOU ARE ANYTHING ELSE. 
          I MEAN, YOU COULD, YOU COULD PUT PLUMBER ON THE OUTSIDE, BUT IF IT WEIGHS 20,000 POUNDS IS STILL 20. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THE DELINEATION BETWEEN WHAT MIGHT DEGRADE THE ROAD AND WHAT MIGHT NOT, MIGHT BE SOME GROCERY AWAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NUMBER IS. 
          FOR INSTANCE, SOME OF THE FRAMING, I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION, BUT I'VE SEEN FRAMING TRUCKS THAT HAVE, THEY PROBABLY OUTWEIGH A LOT OF THE EARTH MOVING TRUCKS. 
          SO IT'S REALLY THE WEIGHT. 
          IT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE DOING OR HOW THEY'RE DOING IT. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO YOUR BUSINESS, BUT JUST NOT JUST OUR THING IS TO TRY TO PROTECT THE EXISTING CITIZENS, EXISTING ROADS FROM DEGRADATION. 
          THAT'S ALL, IF THERE'S A WAY TO DO THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE OPEN TO IT. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BEST WAY IS. 
          SO, UM, AND THEN I HAD FALLING ON THE ROADS IF I COULD, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO JOHNSON ROAD AS WELL. 
          UM, CAN WE SEE A MAP THAT SHOWS HOW FAR JOHNSON ROAD WILL BE IMPROVED? YOU MENTIONED TO THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY LINE, AS FAR AS THE B ONE GOES, WHICH IS THE ONES UP FRONT THERE. 
          I THINK THE TURNING LANE WILL PROBABLY DRIVE AN IMPROVEMENT TO JOHNSON ROAD BACK, AT LEAST AS FAR AS THE B ONE GOES, YEAH. 
          THEN AS FAR AS THE OTHER PORTION, THAT'S AGREED TO BE IMPROVED BEFORE THIS ASAP DEVELOPMENT HAPPENS. 
          UM, WHICH IS THE M TWO, HOW FAR BACK DOES THAT GO? THIS IS SO, UM, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE, UM, TRYING TO FIND THE BEST WIDE FOR YOU. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE THIS SHOWS, THE TURN LANES, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. 
          SO IT GOES TO THE B ONE AND THEN THE COMMITMENT IS, UM, TO GO TO THE, UM, THE FAR END OF THE  PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD OOPS, WRONG WAY. 
          SORRY, FORGIVE ME. 
          OH MY GOODNESS. 
          I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO GET TO THE RIGHT. 
          UH, OUR, OUR PROFFER ASSESSED THAT THE JOHNSON RED WILL BE IMPROVED TO THE END OF OUR PROPERTY TO THE END OF THE PRICE OF THE SOUTHEASTERN. 
          YEP. 
          ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK. 
          YES. 
          OH, LET ME GO BACK TO WHERE IT WAS COMING THE WRONG WAY THEN. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO THE TURN LANES WOULD TERMINATE APPROXIMATELY, CORRECT. 
          MS. CROFT. 
          AND THEN THE COMMITMENT IS FOR THE REST OF THE ROAD UP TO, UM, THEIR PROPERTY LINE TO BE IMPROVED TO THE STANDARDS THAT WERE REFERENCED FOR THE FIRST, BEFORE THE FIRST CEO TO THAT PROPERTY. 
          SO CARRIE STAFF, DOES THAT ADDRESS THAT CONCERN THAT WE HEARD BEFORE ABOUT THERE POSSIBLY BEING AN EXPENSE DOWN THE ROAD? YES, SIR. 
          THAT, THAT DOES, THAT DOES BRING IT TO THE LOCAL STANDARDS, WHICH IS PART OF OUR, UM, OUR PLAN. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE, I, AGAIN, THE WEIGHT, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CUTOFF IS BETWEEN A HEAVY TRUCK AND A LIGHT TRUCK, BUT, UH, YOU SEE THAT THE ISSUE IS THE DEGRADATION. 
          IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT YOU GUYS ARE UP TO HERE, HOW YOU'RE DOING YOUR BUSINESS. 
          I DO. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          UM, AGAIN, I THINK OUR, OUR MAIN CONCERN IS NOT IMPEDING ANY DEVELOPMENT ON THE M TWO PIECE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, FOR AS LONG AS WE CAN WE TAKE THE TRUCKS OFF OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          UM, WE'VE PROFFERED TO TAKE ALL THE BIG, ALL THE BIG ONES OFF FOR GOOD. 
          UM, 
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OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IN ANY DEVELOPMENT WHEN YOU'RE MOVING HERE, YOU'RE ONE OF THE FIRST ONES I KNOW THEY'RE BUILDING THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR ANYWAY, AND ALL THE TRUCKS ARE SHOWING UP ANYWAY, BUT, BUT THE CONCERN HERE IS THE ROADS. 
          IF THEY'VE BEEN FINALIZED, ACCEPTED THE VIET OUT THERE, THAT MAY BE A CHANGE, BUT OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THIS IS DECISION ONLY. 
          UM, AND, UH, SO I THINK WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. 
          UM, SO ANYBODY WANT TO START US OFF DISCUSSION ON THIS? I THINK WE DISCUSSED IT A LOT BEFORE, AH, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          UM, SO THIS IS, UH, THERE'S NO REAL EASY CASES. 
          UM, AND THIS ONE'S TOUGH BECAUSE I SEE SOME REALLY GOOD PROS THAT I SEE SOME, SOME CONS I SAID, PROMOTE FROM A PRO PERSPECTIVE. 
          YOU KNOW, I HEAR FROM CITIZENS ALL THE TIME, KEEP IT RURAL. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. 
          AND TO KEEP IT RURAL, WE HAVE TO HAVE COMMERCIAL GROWTH. 
          THIS GETS US TOWARDS SOME COMMERCIAL GROWTH. 
          NOW WE'RE DOING THAT WITH RISK BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING THIS TO ZONE AND COMMERCIAL WITH NO TENANTS. 
          WE DON'T KNOW WHO'S COMING. 
          UM, SO THERE'S RISKS WITH THAT ROSSELL LOSING 20 ACRES OF COMMERCIAL GROWTH TO RESIDENTIAL, WHICH INITIALLY I WAS EXTREMELY OPPOSED TO, BUT HAVING SEEN THE RESIDENTS OF PARKSIDE AND THEIR ACTIVITY, BOTH WITH THE OTHER CASES THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US, THEY'RE A VERY VOCAL GROUP. 
          I THINK THIS DOES OFFER THEM SOME PROTECTION TO KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO BE MOVING IN NOW WILL KNOW THAT THERE IS INDUSTRIAL BEHIND THEM. 
          SO I DO THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD TO THAT. 
          UM, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE, UM, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO JOHNSON ROAD. 
          YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, WE CAN'T GET BEAT OUT TO FIX OUR ROADS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC. 
          WE CAN'T GET THE TRAFFIC CAUSE WE CAN'T GET THE ROADS FIXED. 
          SO WE'RE GETTING SOME OF JOHNSON ROAD REPAIRED. 
          HOPEFULLY THIS WILL HELP INCREASE TO WHERE WE CAN GET THAT INTERCHANGE TAKEN CARE OF AND GET SOME OF THESE GRADES UP. 
          UH, SO THIS IS, UH, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S SOME REALLY GOOD. 
          AND THERE'S SOME, IT'S NOT IDEAL. 
          I WOULD SAY LAST QUESTION. 
          YEAH, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY. 
          UM, I STILL DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE DOING MORE RESIDENTIAL. 
          UM, THAT'S THAT STILL DOES BOTHER ME. 
          AND I KNOW PROBABLY THE APPLICANT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A CHARLIE BROWN AND THE FOOTBALL, WE KEEP PULLING THINGS OUT, BUT THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CONCERN OF MINE. 
          AND I DON'T, I JUST STILL DO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH DOING MORE RESIDENTIAL IT'S AGAINST THE COMP PLAN. 
          WHY ARE WE DOING IT? THAT'S ONE OF THE COMMENTS I HAVE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          I THINK WHEN PARKSIDE VILLAGE WAS FIRST PROPOSED, IT WAS AGAINST THE COMP PLAN. 
          UM, BUT IT'S THERE. 
          UM, I THINK I MENTIONED BEFORE WHEN THIS FIRST CAME TO ME BY ANOTHER DEVELOPER, UH, JANUARY 18, 19 MONTHS AGO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE AREA OF PARKSIDE VILLAGE AND HOW IT COMES DOWN, THERE'S THIS PIECE THAT SITS BETWEEN PARKSIDE VILLAGE, NATIONAL AND ROAD, NO MATTER WHAT YOU PUT UP THERE, RESIDENTS, AREN'T GONNA LIKE IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE INDUSTRIAL. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE RIGHT IN THEIR BACKYARD. 
          WITH THIS PARKSIDE GETS FINISHED OFF TO ASHLAND ROAD. 
          THIS GETS ZONED COMMERCIAL. 
          AND WE WANT EVERYTHING ON ASHLAND ROAD, REALLY FROM POUNCEY TRACK ALL THE WAY TO 64 TO BE COMMERCIAL. 
          AND THIS CUTS OFF THE RESIDENTIAL AND IT SETS UP THE COMMERCIAL TO SAY, WE'RE GOING TO MEET THE COMMERCIAL COMING IN FROM THE OTHER END OF ASHLAND ROAD. 
          NOT GOING TO BE ANY MORE RESIDENTIAL THERE. 
          UM, WE MET WITH SOME PEOPLE LAST WEEK ABOUT PIECE OF PROPERTY UP ON THE OTHER END ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS. 
          AND WE SAID, THERE'S NO MORE INTEREST IN RESIDENTIAL HERE. 
          JUST KNOW, UM, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COME, BUT WE'VE TOLD THEM WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN IT. 
          AND STAFF TOLD THEM THAT TOO. 
          SO I THINK THIS BREAKS OFF THE RESIDENTIAL IN THAT AREA. 
          IT GIVES A CUSHION. 
          THERE'S PLENTY OF VEGETATION THERE BETWEEN THE M FUTURE M TWO AND THE HOUSING, WHICH YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE 
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IF YOU DID INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL UP ON TOP OF THAT. 
          SO IT GIVES A NICE BUFFER IN THERE AND IT JUST CUTS OFF AND SAYS EVERYTHING GOING BACK OUT TOWARDS 64 IS GOING TO BE COMMERCIAL. 
          SO THAT'S WHY, EVEN THOUGH IT WASN'T AN IDEAL AS TO MORE RESIDENTIAL, IT DID SQUARE OFF PARKSIDE AND START THE COMMERCIAL. 
          AND I DARE SAY, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY'S GONNA WANT TO TRY AND BUILD HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET FROM ASPHALT PLANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I CHANGED MY MIND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT PETERSON. 
          UH, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU. 
          UM, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THE, UH, APPLICANT IN THIS CASE, UM, HAS BEEN OPEN-MINDED AND HAS LISTENED TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND TAKING THEM TO HEART AND MADE SOME CHANGES, WHETHER ENOUGH, WHETHER THE ENOUGH OR NOT AS SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION. 
          BUT WE, THE IDEAL WAY FOR THIS TO WORK IS WHEN CITIZENS PROVIDE COMMENTS, APPLICANTS, LISTEN, MAKE ADJUSTMENTS GUIDED BY STAFF. 
          UM, SO THAT PART OF IT SEEMED TO WORK THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO. 
          AND AGAIN, WE CAN DEBATE THE OUTCOME, BUT THE PROCESS SEEMED TO GO THE WAY WE'D LIKE IT TO AS FAR AS THE  AND THE M TWO, WHERE WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF INDUSTRIAL SPEC. 
          SO THIS WILL HELP THAT AS FAR AS THE B ONE, WE'D LIKE MORE BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY TO BALANCE THE RESIDENTIAL. 
          SO THE ROAD, UM, LEAVING THE COUNTY, HOLDING, UH, A BILL OR A TAB WAS, WAS NOT A GREAT IDEA. 
          AND THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED NOW. 
          SO WHERE THE COUNTY HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF THE OUT OF THE EQUATION, WHICH IS GOOD. 
          UH, SO THEN THE ONLY REMAINING PIECE IS THE RESIDENTIAL TO STEP OUT THE, UH, THE PREVIOUS, UH, RESIDENTIAL PIECE HAD AN ACTUAL STUB ROAD THERE THAT THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH FOR SOMETHING. 
          AND MY QUESTION IS WHAT, AND DOES IT GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO ASHLYN AND HAVE ANOTHER ENTRANCE AND EGRESS AND REGRESS, OR DOES IT STOP THIS, HAS IT STUBBED OUT CALLED US ACT AND FINISHING OFF THE RESIDENTIAL TAKEN AS A WHOLE, THEN YOU COULD VIEW IT AS A M P U D WITH A MIXED PLAN USE. 
          THE ONLY THING WE DON'T HAVE IS WE DON'T HAVE THE PHASING TO SAY, YOU HAVE TO DO SOME OF THIS FIRST. 
          UM, SO IS THE RESIDENTIAL ROOFTOPS IDEAL HAVING PARKSIDE UP THERE? YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE NOT, DOES THIS FINISH IT OFF AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DONE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND THERE'S THE BENEFIT IS WE GET THE COMMERCIAL AND THE BUSINESS TO GO WITH IT. 
          IS THAT WORTH THE TRADE OFF? AND, UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M ON THIS THINGS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON, ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY TO THAT IS THE RPD DOES REQUIRE SOME KIND OF COMMERCIAL USE BUILT FIRST. 
          AND SO WE'RE GIVING AWAY. 
          DID YOU MEAN THE MPD RPD RPD REQUIRES A NEW ASSESSMENT PHASE AND WE HAVE TO HAVE IT Y Y YEAH. 
          THE MIX. 
          SO, YES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO I MEAN, IT'S TAKEN A CHANCE, BUT WE DO NEED THE COMMERCIAL. 
          UM, UM, I AGREE WITH THAT, SO SURE. 
          WE DO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYTHING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WELL, I CAN'T ADD TO IT. 
          CAN'T ADD A LOT TO, WHAT'S BEEN SAID. 
          I TH I THINK, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS I LIKE, I LIKE WHERE WE'VE ENDED UP, I GUESS WE'RE GOING TO BE SUBJECT TO CRITICISM, WHICH I UNDERSTAND, UM, THE SAME, THE SAME, UH, EMAIL THAT WE REFERRED TO EARLIER THIS LAST LOT, THAT THE PERSON, UH, ALSO COMMENTED THAT OUR DISCUSSION, THEY WATCHED THE LAST MEETING AND THAT SAID OUR DISCUSSION ESSENTIALLY DEGENERATED INTO HOW TO PROTECT THE COUNTY FROM POSSIBLE EXPOSURE TO ROAD EXPENSE. 
          UM, THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE NEGATIVE, BUT, AND, AND, BUT I THINK WE ENDED UP IN A GOOD PLACE TO DO IT IN THE RIGHT THING. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT MAYBE LOOKED PAINFUL TO THE APPLICANT TO, AND I GUESS TO THE EXTENT THAT, I GUESS FOR ME SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, ME LEARNING A LITTLE BIT, I'VE SEEN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO THE EXTENT THAT MADE THIS LOOK UGLIER THAN IT NEEDED TO THE PROCESS LOOKED UGLY, THEN MAYBE IT SHOULD HAVE, I THINK WE'VE ENDED UP IN A GOOD PLACE. 
          UM, AND, UH, I, AGAIN, I, I ECHO WHAT YOU SAID THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ADDRESSED THINGS AND IT'S BEEN, UH, APPRECIATE BEING RESPONSIVE AS, AS TO THE EXTENT YOU WERE. 
          SO, UM, I, I SUPPORT THE APPLICATION. 
          I, I, UM, THINK WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED A LOT OF GOOD THINGS FOR THIS AREA, AS WE, AS IT TRANSITIONS FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA TO THE INDUSTRIAL AREA, TO THE SOUTH. 
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UM, SO NO PUBLIC HEARING, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION, UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. 
          MS. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE REZONING OUR Z DASH 2 0 2 1 DASH 0 0 0 0 4 FOR 41.334 ACRES ON ASHLAND ROAD JOHNSON ROAD AND ALDA B STREET FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO AND RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, U D WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS TO RESIDENTIAL PLAN, UNIT DEVELOPMENT, BUSINESS GENERAL  AND INDUSTRIAL GENERAL, M TWO WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED. 
          SECOND. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SHARPEN, MR. SPOON POWER. 
          ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ROLL CALL VOTE, MR. HOWARD. 
          YES. 
          MR. SHARP. 
          YES. 
          THAT'S THE PETERSON. 
          YES. 
          MS. LASCOLA VERY RELUCTANT. 
          YES. 
          MR. LUMPKINS. 
          YES. 
          SO I THINK THAT STILL COUNTS IS FIVE AND A HALF IT'S FOUR AND A HALF. 
          TWO. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE TIME AND EFFORT. 
          AND, UH, I THINK WE'VE ENDED UP AT A GOOD PLACE AND BEST WISHES. 
          I KNOW YOU'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, BUT THE BOARD WILL LARGELY BE OUT OF IT NOW. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          BRING US SOME GOOD BUSINESSES AND I'LL ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO HELP ME ON THE NEXT ONE. 
          DO WE HAVE TO DEFER THIS? I MEAN, I KNOW THE ADVERTISING DEADLINE REQUIRES THAT AT BEING RE ADVERTISED. 
          SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE DEFER IT? YES. 
          PLEASE TAKE A MOTION TO DEFER IT. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT PREPARED TO HAVE IT READY FOR THE OCTOBER 5TH MEETING, I WILL MOVE THAT. 
          WE DEFER THE ORDINANCE AMENDING COUNTY CODE SECTION 14 DASH 2 51 TOKEN CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT TO INCLUDE WITHIN THE SERVICE 
          [10. 4072: Ordinance amending County Code Section 14-251 (Tuckahoe Creek Service]
DISTRICT. 
          THE PARCEL LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF JOHNSON ROAD. 
          ASHLAND ROAD IS 48 DASH FIVE. 
          DEAR SIERRA DOES ONE DESK. 
          HEY, TED. 
          WE DEFER THAT ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO OUR OCTOBER 5TH MEETING. 
          SECOND. 
          THANK YOU, MISS LAST GLEN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          UNANIMOUS. 
          UH, THANKS AGAIN. 
          UM, OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE SECTIONS 15 DASH 2 62 
          [11. 4108: ZOA-2021-00001 - Proposed amendment to Zoning Ordinance Sections 15-]
AND 15 DASH 2 72. 
          UM, MISS SHERRY WILL WALK US THROUGH THAT. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          UH, THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IS, HAS BEEN INITIATED BY THE COUNTY. 
          UH, THIS IS A COUNTY-WIDE OR ORDINANCE MEN, MEANING THAT IT IS NOT FOR A SPECIFIC PART. 
          IT WOULD ACTUALLY COVER THE ENTIRE, UM, UH, THE ENTIRE COUNTY. 
          UM, THIS AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR DISTRIBUTION CENTERS AND INDUSTRIAL ZONES, UM, WITHIN THE M ONE DISTRICT. 
          UM, IT WOULD BE PERMITTED AS A BI-RITE USE FOR SITES WITH ACCESS TO ROADS AND CERTAIN ROAD CLASSIFICATIONS. 
          AND I'LL, I'LL GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THAT ON OTHER SLIDES, UH, DISTRIBUTION CENTERS WOULD BE PERMITTED WITH A CUP FOR ALL OTHER M ONE SITES. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, UM, M TUESDAY ZONING DISTRICT AND THE MTA ZONING DISTRICT, IT WOULD BE PERMITTED AS A BI-RITE USE REGARDLESS OF THE ROAD CLASSIFICATION. 
          SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE, UH, RECENTLY THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMPLETED A STUDY, UM, IT'S CALLED, UH, GOOCHLAND COUNTY CLUSTER IDENTIFICATION REPORTS WITHIN THAT STUDY. 
          UM, IT IDENTIFIES TARGETED AND EMERGING BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY. 
          UH, THE REPORT IDENTIFIED AN EMERGING SECTOR FOR LOGISTICS, WHICH INCLUDES DISTRIBUTION CENTERS. 
          UM, DISTRIBUTION CENTERS ARE NOT LISTED CURRENTLY AS A PERMITTED USE IN ANY DISTRICT WITHIN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          UH, THE COUNTY CODE DOES HAVE A DEFINITION, BUT IT WAS NOT, AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS NOT A PERMITTED USE. 
          UH, THE DEFINITION IS AN ESTABLISHMENT ENGAGED IN THE RECEIPT, STORAGE AND DISTRIBUTION OF GOODS, PRODUCTS, CARGO, AND MATERIALS, INCLUDING SHIPMENT BY BOAT, RAIL ALE, AIR, OR BETTER VEHICLES. 
          COOL. 
          HERE YOU HAVE A, UM, A ZONING MAP THAT SHOWS, UH, THE CURRENT, UM, ZONING DISTRICTS WHERE ALL THE M ONE AND M TWO, THAT M TWO IS THE, UM, DARKER PURPLE WITH THE M ONE BEING THE, UH, THE LIGHTER PURPLE. 
          UM, SO JUST GOING BACK REAL QUICK. 
          SO STAFF DID TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, 
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UM, AS, UH, WE, WE CAME UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS ORDINANCE. 
          WE LOOKED AT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THE EXISTING ROADS WOULD HAVE THE AREAS THAT WERE ACTUALLY ALREADY ZONED THIS WAY IN ORDER TO NOT CREATE SOMETHING, UM, THAT, THAT, UM, WAS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TYPE OF, OF USE, UM, DISTRIBUTE STUDENT CENTERS. 
          UM, IF THIS WORD BE APPROVED, UM, WOULD BE ALLOWED AS A BI-RITE PERMITTED USE FOR, UM, SITES WITH ACCESS TO ROAD SEGMENTS CATEGORIES AS FIVE OR SIX. 
          AND THIS ROAD CLASSIFICATION IS IDENTIFIED IN OUR ACCESS MANAGEMENT PORTION OF THE, UM, ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          UM, THESE ARE BASED ON, UH, MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, UH, DEFINITIONS OF, OF HOW WE CLASSIFY ROADS. 
          UM, UM, ORDINANCE HAS, UM, UH, MUCH, MANY MORE ROADS THAN ARE IDENTIFIED, UM, HERE ON THE SCREEN, BUT I DID REMOVE ALL THE FIVE AND SIXES, UM, FROM THE, THE LARGER TABLE THAT WOULD APPEAR IN THE, IN THE ORDINANCE, JUST SO YOU COULD SEE THE ROADS, UM, THAT THESE WOULD BE, UM, ALLOWED, UM, ALLOWED BY, RIGHT IN THE  ZONING DISTRICT. 
          UM, THE THOUGHT BEING THAT IF THEY'RE NOT LOCATED ON THESE ROADS, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THEY ARE NOT APPROPRIATE, UH, BUT THERE WOULD BE A REQUIRED, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT, UH, PROCESS THAT WOULD HAVE TO, UM, TO, UH, THE PROCESS WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH YOU. 
          SO YOU COULD ADD ADDITIONAL, UH, PROTECTIONS AS NECESSARY. 
          UM, AND THE SAME IS TRUE FOR, UH, THE  ZONING DISTRICTS WOULD, WOULD ALLOW BY, RIGHT, UM, A PERMITTED USE. 
          UM, UH, WE LOOKED AGAIN AT THE, AT THE EXISTING MAP TO IDENTIFY IF THERE WAS ANY AREAS WHERE THIS WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE CURRENTLY. 
          AND THE THOUGHT IS IF, UM, A, UM, A PROPERTY WERE TO BE REZONED TO THE, UM, M TWO ZONING DISTRICT, UM, FROM ANY OTHER DISTRICT, THIS WOULD BE YOUR OPERA. 
          THAT WOULD BE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, EITHER ACCEPT, UM, THE APPLICATION OR, UM, OR DENY IT BASED ON, ON THE APPLICATION ITSELF. 
          MR. CHAIR, CAN WE PAUSE FOR JUST A SECOND, SAME AS HAVING TO COME BACK? SURE. 
          UM, THIS LIST OF ROADS, UM, IT'S THESE ARE THE FIVES AND SIXES. 
          YES, SIR. 
          BUT THESE ARE NOT ALL AN M ONE REM TWO, NO, THESE ARE JUST THE ONES THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ABLE TO BE BY RIGHT IN THE  DISTRICT, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO BE IN M ONE REM TO CORRECT THESE, ALL OF THESE ARE NOT IN THE I'M ONE OF THEM TOO. 
          I DIDN'T WANT TO LEAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT, THAT YOU COULD PUT A DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE. 
          I NEED THESE STREETS. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I JUST WANTED TO LAY A ROAD AS YET. 
          YES. 
          SO, SO YES, FOR, FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU'RE ONTO US. 
          I WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THE PEOPLE LIVE ON ALL THESE FRAUDS ARE NOT THINKING OF THE DISTRIBUTION. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          IT MIGHT'VE. 
          WELL, ANYWAY, I WANT, IT MIGHT MADE SENSE TO DO ANOTHER OVERLAY OF ONCE ARE IN THE M ONE M TWO. 
          SO IT WOULD SHOW JUST THE, BUT THIS IS, I WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT BECAUSE I WENT TO SEE WHAT HAVING TO COME BACK TO IT. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          NOW, UM, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          APPRECIATE THE DIFFERENCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, YEAH, SO, UM, THOSE ROADS THAT ARE ON THERE, IF THEY ARE NOT CURRENTLY ALREADY ZONED, UM, M ONE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A, UM, UH, AN APPROVAL PROCESS. 
          THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT AN APPLICATION TO THEN REQUEST THE ZONING AND THEN, UM, YOU ALL WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO, UM, UH, ENTERTAIN THAT APPLICATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THAT YOU END UP ON IT. 
          UM, DOESN'T WANT ME TO TALK, UM, MAYBE JUST REAL QUICKLY EXPLAIN WHAT CATEGORY FIVE AND SIX IS THAT MIGHT HELP US CERTAINLY. 
          UM, LET ME SEE IF I HAVE THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          I DON'T THINK I DO HAVE IT ON THE OTHER SIDE NOW. 
          I DON'T. 
          UM, SO ESSENTIALLY, UM, THE WAY THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT PORTION OF THE, UM, ZONING ORDINANCES IS, UM, UH, UM, WRITTEN, IS THAT IT, UH, BASED ON THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AND IDENTIFIES CERTAIN CATEGORIES, UM, BASED ON, UH, THE TYPE OF ROAD THAT IT IS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, ONE WOULD BE THE INTERSTATE AND THEN THE LEAST RESTRICTIVE IS ACTUALLY LIKE A SEVEN OR A LOCAL ROAD. 
          MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE ROADS IN THE KELLY ACTUALLY LOCAL ROADS, SO THEY DON'T EVEN APPEAR ON THE TABLE. 
          UM, SO, UM, YES, SO THAT, THAT CATEGORY FIVE AND SIX, I CAN ACTUALLY READ TO YOU WHAT IT SAYS AS THE, UM, EXCUSE ME. 
          SO, UM, ACCESS MANAGEMENT. 
          SO IT SAYS, UM, UH, THESE CATEGORIES ARE BASED ON FUTURE ROADWAY, TRAVEL CHARACTERISTICS PRESENTED ON THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN. 
          UH, THE ROADWAYS 
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ARE ASSIGNED ONE TO SEVEN ACCESS CATEGORIES WITH AN ACCESS QUARTER CATEGORY OF BEING OF ONE BEING THE MOST RESTRICTIVE AND CATEGORY SEVEN BEING THE LESS RESTRICTIVE. 
          SO FOR EXAMPLE, AS I MENTIONED, THE INTERSTATE WOULD BE, WOULD BE ONE CATEGORY ONE, IF YOU GO TO THE CATEGORIES FIVE AND SIX, UM, IT IDENTIFIES A CATEGORY FIVE AS A VILLAGE SLASH URBAN COLLECTOR. 
          SO IT'S A COLLECTOR ROAD, UM, COLLECTING, UH, YOU KNOW, URBAN VILLAGE AREAS. 
          UM, IT IS A HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME. 
          UM, THIS ONE ACTUALLY HAS A LOW SPEED FOCUSES ON A BALANCE OF MOBILITY AND ACCESS, BUT MOSTLY ACCESS. 
          UM, AND THEY ARE LOCATED IN DESIGNATED VILLAGES. 
          UM, THE, UM, CATEGORY NUMBER SIX IS A HIGH VOLUME LOCAL ROAD PROVIDES ACCESS TO ARTERIALS AND COLLECTOR COLLECTORS FOCUSED ON MOBILITY AND ACCESS, BUT MOSTLY ON ACCESS. 
          UM, THEY SERVE LOCAL TRAFFIC, MODERATE TRAFFIC VOLUMES AND WITHIN DESIGNATED VILLAGES. 
          SO THE REASON WHY THESE DIRT ROADS WERE IDENTIFIED WAS BECAUSE BASED ON WHAT WE DID AS STAFF, AS WE LOOKED AT EXISTING M ONE ZONING, THAT WHICH IS ALREADY EXISTING  ZONING, AND IF THEY WERE ON THESE CATEGORY, UM, TYPES OF ROADS AND THAT THEN THEY POTENTIALLY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE. 
          SO THIS IS NOT SAYING THAT EVERYTHING ON THESE ROADS IS GOOD TO GO, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT ZONING PROCESS. 
          SO THIS GOES BACK TO OUR MAP. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE  ZONING IS OVER HERE IN THE WEST CREEK AREA. 
          UM, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT EVERYTHING IN THE WEST CREEK AREA IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A BI-RITE, UM, UH, M ONE, UH, IF YOU'RE M ONE AND THEY NOT, UM, BY RIGHT APPROPRIATE FOR A DISTRIBUTION CENTER, UM, HOCKET ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE, IS NOT LISTED AS A FIVE OR SIX. 
          SO A GOOD PORTION OF THIS, UM, UH, THIS AREA IS, AND, UM, IT IS A LONG HOCKER ROAD. 
          THIS WOULD NOT BE INAPPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR A DISTRICT RESCIND CENTER BY, RIGHT. 
          SO, SO IT, ALTHOUGH IT DOES SEEM LIKE WE'RE SPECIFICALLY THAT THOSE ROAD DESIGNATION SEEM LIKE THEY, UM, ARE VAST. 
          IT'S REALLY NOT. 
          WE WERE REALLY JUST LOOKING AT WHAT WAS EXISTING AND WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TODAY. 
          WE DID NOT WANT TO IMPROVE, IMPOSE A ORDINANCE THAT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT WHAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE TO NOT GIVE THE CITIZENS, UM, THE ABILITY TO RESPOND TO A REZONING REQUEST. 
          DOES THAT HELP? I MEAN, OKAY. 
          I MEAN, I MEAN, I'D BE HAPPY TO FURTHER CLARIFY, BUT LET'S SEE. 
          SO, UM, SO AGAIN, JUST TO RECAP, UM, WHAT'S ON THIS SLIDE, M ONE ZONING, AS LONG AS THEY ARE IN A FIVE OR SIX, UH, WOULD BE ALLOWED TO LOCATE A DISTRIBUTION CENTER THEREBY RIGHT. 
          IF THEY HAD ACCESS TO A FIVE OR SIX, UM, ACU P WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR ALL OTHER, UM, M TWO, UM, EXCUSE ME, M ONE USES. 
          UM, AND THEN IF IT'S AN EXISTING M TWO, UM, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY, RIGHT. 
          OR IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REZONED TO BE ALLOWED VIBRATE. 
          UM, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN AUGUST, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A FIVE A VOTE, AND NOBODY SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER FURTHER QUESTIONS, MR. SHARP, CAN WE GO BACK TO THE STREETS? OF COURSE. 
          ANYWAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT M ONE INDUSTRIAL COULD BE ALLOWED AS A BUY RIGHT. 
          PERMITTED USE IF THEY'RE ON A CATEGORY FIVE OR SIX, IF THEY'RE ALREADY EXISTING. 
          YES. 
          IF THEY'RE ALREADY EXISTING AS AN ONE, CORRECT? YEP. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO RIGHT NOW THERE ARE NO M ONE S A M M ONE SITES ON HERMITAGE ROAD OR CARDWELL ROAD OR MANNEQUIN ROAD, OR ANY OF THOSE. 
          YES, WE DID GO BACK THROUGH THE MAPS AND I MEAN, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHERE THEY WERE, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE STREETS THAT SHE MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE, BUT I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE MAP. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          MR. JUST AGAIN, TRY AND CLEAR THIS UP. 
          IT HAS TO BE INDUSTRIAL TO BEGIN WITH AND ONE REM TOO. 
          YEAH. 
          YES, YES. 
          THOSE OWNERS ARE THE ONLY, THE ONLY, UH, ABILITY FOR IT TO BE ALLOWED BY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEN ONE ON THOSE SITES. 
          SO THE ZONING HAS TO BE IN PLACE FIRST. 
          THAT'S ALREADY. 
          YES. 
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AND WE HAVE CERTAIN PLACES THAT ARE ALREADY ZONED IN ONE M TWO, AND THEN A LOT OF THE COUNTY IS NOT ZONE I'M WANTING TO. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO AT FIRST HAS TO HAVE THE ZONING AND THEN IF IT HAS INDUSTRIAL ZONING ALREADY, THE SECOND LOOK IS, DOES IT HAVE ACCESS FOR THE INAPPROPRIATE RHODA, CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          WELL, MINE TOO, IN ORDER TO BE BUY RIGHT. 
          THE SECOND LOOK IS, DOES IT HAVE, SO IF IT'S ZONED PROPERLY AND HAS THE RIGHT ACCESS JUST FOR MRM FOR M ONE, THEN IT'S BY RIGHT. 
          THEY CAN DO IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          KNOW IT'S ALREADY ZONED AND ALREADY HAS THE ROADS IN  THAN IT'S BY, RIGHT? YES, SIR. 
          EXAMPLES. 
          YOU MENTIONED THAT DON'T QUALIFY ARE AREAS THAT ARE NOT M ONE OR M TWO, SUCH AS WELL. 
          I GUESS PARTS OF HOCKETT ARE, ARE, ARE ALREADY ZONE M ONE, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THICK FIVE OR SIX. 
          IT WOULD NOT QUALIFY. 
          SO, AND BLAIR ROAD HAS A FIVE OR SIX, BUT IT'S NOT ZONED IN ONE ROOM TO FIRST HAS TO HAVE THE ZONING. 
          IF IT HAS THE ZONING AND THE ACCESS, THEN IT CAN DO IT BY WRITING THEM ONE. 
          OTHERWISE IT'S GOT TO COME BACK FOR A CUP IF YOU'RE IN ONE BUDGET AND YOU HAVE THE ACCESS. 
          UH . 
          SO ZONING FIRST THAT A SECOND LOOK TO SEE WHETHER THEY CAN DO IT BY RIGHT OR NOT. 
          IF THEY CAN'T DO IT BY RIGHT. 
          THEY GOT TO COME BACK FOR A CUP. 
          IS THAT A FAIR SUMMARY? YES, SIR. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THAT HELP AT ALL? OR IS THAT FURTHER CONFUSED? THAT'S GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THAT PROMPTS ME TO SAY SOMETHING. 
          SO I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING TO MR. SHARP'S QUESTION, AND I THINK YOU WERE FOLLOWING UP ON IT, MR. PETERSON, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE ACTUAL AMENDMENT. 
          AND OF COURSE IT JUST SHOWS WHAT WE ADDED. 
          IF I'M A DEVELOPER OR A LANDOWNER, I COME IN AND I SAY, I WANT, I WANT M ONE HERE. 
          AND I GO THROUGH PROCESS AND WE GRANT, WE REZONE SOMETHING TO M ONE IF, AND THIS HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE. 
          IF MY PROPERTY HAS ACCESS TO A CATEGORY FIVE OR SIX ROAD, THEN, AND THIS BOARD REZONES IT TO M ONE, I UNDERSTAND THAT I NOW HAVE A BI-RITE USE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          BUT THERE WOULD BE THE ZONING THAN WHAT I THOUGHT YOU ASKED. 
          IT SOUNDED LIKE JUST TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT I JUST ANSWERED. 
          UM, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY, IF SOMEBODY IS ON ONE OF THESE ROAD CATEGORIES AND THEY GO THROUGH A REZONING PROCESS, THEY ASK FOR M ONE, WE GIVE THEM M ONE. 
          IF THEIR PROPERTY IS ON FIVE OR SIX, THEY HAVE A BUYER. 
          ONCE THEY GET REZONED TO M ONE, THEY HAVE A BI-RITE TO PUT A DATA, UM, UH, JUST A DISTRIBUTION CENTER. 
          UM, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THE INTENTION WAS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT REZONING PROCESS. 
          AND IF IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE, THEN, THEN IT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED BY WRITING LISTS. 
          SOMETHING THAT OFTEN HAPPENS WHERE THE APPLICANT WILL SAY, I AGREE TO RESTRICT THESE KINDS OF THINGS. 
          THAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IF YOU GET AN M ONE AND THERE'S NO PROFIT LIMITING OR CARVING OUT THINGS THAT ARE PERMITTED, THEY WOULD HAVE A DATA CENTER BY RIGHT. 
          DISTRIBUTION. 
          JUST ABOUT, I KEEP SAYING THAT BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT IT, I'LL KEEP LOOKING AT IT. 
          AND THERE'S A DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND MR. LAMPKINS, THAT WOULD BE TRUE TO ANY PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE ZONED BY TWO MEN, REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER STREET YOU WOULD HAVE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO THEN GO TO THIS IEP PROCESS YET. 
          BUT EVEN THROUGH THAT REZONING PROCESS, THERE COULD BE LIMITATIONS ACTUALLY PUT ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL. 
          MAY I ASK YOU HAD TURNED MY PHONE, COULD IT ALSO HAPPEN IN REVERSE THAT THE ROAD GETS UPGRADED TO A FIVE OR SIX NORMAL SWAPPING? ANY MY QUESTION? YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          I GUESS THAT IS ACTUALLY, UH, SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, LIKE NEW ROADS, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, COULD, COULD QUALIFY AS, UM, UH, FIVE OR SIX THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY IN THE, UM, IN THE PLAN. 
          SO YES. 
          OKAY. 
          A ROAD THAT'S UPGRADED TO A FIVE OR SIX WHEN ALL OF A SUDDEN QUALIFY, ASSUMING THAT THERE IS, ARE ALREADY  ON THAT, ON THAT PROPERTY. 
          BUT AGAIN, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T GO THAT FAR INTO, TO FORESEE WHAT, WHAT POTENTIAL COULD BE. 
          BUT IF THERE I UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, WE DID LOOK AT THE, ALL THE EXISTING, WE DID LOOK AT ALL THE EXISTING AND ONE WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE COUNTY AND KIND OF, UH, DID KIND OF AN, AN ANALYSIS TO HOW EASY IT WOULD BE FOR A DISTRIBUTION TO LOCATE DISTRIBUTION CENTER TO LOCATE THERE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          SHERIFF, UM, 
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JUST TO BE REAL CLEAR, AGAIN, CERTAINLY PARTS OF PARTS OF HOCK HAD RM ONE, BUT THEY'RE NOT FIVE OR SIX. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          IF THEY BECAME FIVE OR SIX AND THEY ALREADY ARE M ONE, THEN THAT WOULD OPEN THE DOOR TO POTENTIAL. 
          SO IS THERE SOMETHING THAT SAYS THESE ROAD SEGMENTS ARE CATEGORIZED AS FIVE OR SIX AS A, TODAY? THERE IS NO TIME. 
          UH, THERE IS NO DATE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          THAT IS CORRECT FOR, FOR, FOR TRYING TO KIND OF BLOCK IN A LIST OF WHERE IT COULD GO TODAY. 
          YOU'D LOCK IT IN, IN FIVE OR SIX AS OF TODAY. 
          YEAH. 
          THE ALTERNATIVE ARGUMENT TO THAT IS IF IT HAS ACCESS TO IT, IT HAS ZONING AND IT HAS ALL THE THINGS IN PLACE. 
          WHY WOULD YOU CARE? BUT, UM, BUT TO CLOSE THAT DOOR AND THE POTENTIAL BACK BACK DOOR, IF YOU JUST SAID, AS OF TODAY, AT LEAST WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, I THINK IT'D BE PROBABLY BETTER JUST TO LEAVE IT AS A, AS A CUP REQUIRED USE PROBABLY VERSUS WHAT YOU JUST DESCRIBED. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I THINK ABOUT THE NEW ROAD THAT'S BEING BUILT OVER TODAY, OVER NEAR OAK HILL OR WHATEVER, IT'S NOT ON THIS LIST. 
          IT WILL BE ADDED TO THIS LIST AND IT'S LIKELY TO BE A CATEGORY FIVE FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD. 
          THERE'S THE ONE IN WEST CREEK ROADS WITH TUCKAHOE BIG. 
          I WOULDN'T THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO, IF, IF BOTH THE ROAD AND THE ZONING EXIST, THE IDEA OF STAFF WAS IT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT? MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, SECTION 15 DASH 3 44, IS THAT A VEDA DOCUMENT? THAT'S OUR CODE, THAT'S OUR CODE SECTION. 
          AND SO WE DECIDE WHAT THE ROADS ARE, CLASSICS. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE WE GO. 
          HERE'S YOUR ANSWER? UM, SO THEY GET CLASS THE WAY WE SAY THEY ARE. 
          YES. 
          THIS IS, THESE CLASSIFICATIONS ARE LINKED TO OUR, OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WHICH HAS, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIONS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW WE DEVELOP ROADS AND, AND, AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          BUT YES, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, WE DESIGNATE THOSE ROADS IN OUR PLAN. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING WE REALLY, BECAUSE WE, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT ANY OTHER ORDINANCES THAT ARE TIED TO THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE ROADS. 
          NOT THAT I SEE SOMETHING NEW. 
          OKAY. 
          THE IPHONE THAT WAS TAKEN AS CHAIRMAN OF THE BREWERY, THE BREWERY. 
          UH, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT CLOSED, THAT TALKED ABOUT THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE ROAD, BUT WHEN WE, WHEN WE SAID YOU COULD DO IT BY, RIGHT. 
          I THINK IT MAY HAVE, MAY HAVE JUST SAID IT NEEDS TO BE ACCESSED BY STATE ROAD, PUBLIC ROAD, PUBLIC ROAD. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT TO MISS ALASKA THAT'S POINT COULD ROAD CLASSIFICATION CHANGE TO A FIVE OR SIX IN VOLUNTARILY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL, I GUESS THAT'S. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, IT, COULD, IT HAPPEN TO US AND SURPRISE OR SOMETHING THAT WE FEED OUT, DO THEY DO THE CLASS? SO THAT WAS THE QUESTION GOING TO PHONE A FRIEND THAT'S OKAY. 
          LIFELINE, YOU ONLY GET TWO, THIS HELPS A LITTLE BIT OF THOSE. 
          ALL THIS INFORMATION IS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          ANY CHANGE, ANY ADDITION WOULD COME BACK TO THE BOARD. 
          SO THE BOARD WOULD SEE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST CHANGING, AFFORDED A FOUR OR FIVE. 
          IT WOULD REQUIRE A ZODIAC COURTS HAVE BEEN MEANT TO DO THAT. 
          SO AN INDIVIDUAL ROAD CHANGE WOULD HAVE TO COME TO US. 
          THIS IS IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. 
          SO WE'VE NEVER SEEN ONE BEFORE. 
          SO THEY'VE NEVER, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN CHANGED IN 10 YEARS. 
          THERE'S NEVER BEEN ONE. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE ACCOMPLISHING AND WHY IS THIS GOING TO MAKE OUR LIVES EASIER? UM, I DO HAVE, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTED IN, UH,  JOANNE HUNTER. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE SOME, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS WORKING ON SEVERAL DISTRIBUTION SITE, POTENTIAL LOCATIONS. 
          UM, WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT IS WHERE WOULD THEY BE APPROPRIATE? SO WE DETERMINED THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS. 
          UH, M TWO WAS GENERALLY IS THE ASHLYN ROAD CORRIDOR. 
          THAT SEEMS LIKE AN INAPPROPRIATE LOCATION IT'S NEAR THE INTERSTATE. 
          SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THAT. 
          UM, THERE'S SOME THAT ARE LOOKING IN THE WEST CREEK AREA, WHICH IS ALL ZONED . 
          HOWEVER, THERE'S ALSO SOME M ONE PROPERTY ALONG HOCKETT ROAD, WHICH HAS BECOME MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL, UH, CORRIDOR. 
          SO IT WAS TRYING TO FIND A COMPROMISE OF FINDING 
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AREAS OF HOW THIS, WHERE IT COULD BE APPROPRIATE AND , BUT THEN THERE ARE SOME OTHER AREAS IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. 
          UM, SO ONE THING WE LOOKED AT IS, WELL, IT'S THE TYPES OF ROADS THAT SERVICE THESE TYPES OF USES. 
          YOU WANT THEM TO BE, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT ROADS CATEGORIES, FIVE AND SIX OR D GENERALLY YOUR, UM, HIGHER COLLECTOR ROADS. 
          THEY CAN HIGHER CARRY HIGHER VOLUMES OF TRAFFIC, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TYING IT TO THE ROAD. 
          UM, IT, IT MAKES SENSE IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE  AND MTUS ARE LOCATED TO TIE IT TO THE ROAD CLASSIFICATION, AND IT WOULD HELP US LOCATE THEM WHERE WE WANT THEM TO BE AND, AND PREVENT THEM TO GOING WHERE WE WOULDN'T WANT THEM TO GO. 
          THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          UM, AND ALSO WHAT I THOUGHT I HEARD, ONE OF THE FIRST SLIDES WAS DISTRIBUTION CENTERS ARE PERMITTED ANYWHERE. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE CELEBRATING. 
          THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED ANYWHERE. 
          THIS WOULD AT LEAST ESTABLISH WHEN AND WHERE AND HOW. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          CAN I TAKE IT TO YOUR QUESTION? IT REMOVES A BARRIER. 
          I THINK IN SOME WAYS, LOOKING AT LIKE, I WANT TO PUT A DISTRIBUTION CENTER HERE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DECIDE, HEY, WE'LL MOVE UP RIGHT HERE. 
          BOOM. 
          AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO MORE UP TO YOU. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO ANY PROCESS IN THE AREAS WHERE WE WANT, IF SOMEBODY IS LOOKING AT AN M ONE THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE ROAD, THEN WE CAN SAY, THIS IS AN OPTION, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS UP HERE. 
          IT'S IT'S READY TO GO. 
          BUT THE GENTLEMAN THINKS I BET ON NINE O'CLOCK I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          WE DO NEED A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE. 
          UM, MS. HUNTER, YOU MENTIONED NATIONAL AND ROAD AS ONE OF THE POSSIBLE, BUT ASLAN ROAD IS NOT ON THIS CHART. 
          UM, PROPERTY, UM, IS, CAN BE, WE COULD BE REZONED TO EMPTY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THESE ARE OKAY. 
          YES. 
          REALLY? THIS WAS TO PROTECT THE EXISTING M ONE PROPERTIES. 
          SO AN M TWO WOULD BE BY RIGHT REGARDLESS OF THE ROAD ACCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          DO YOU WANT US TO TAKE A BREAK MAN? ABOUT 30 MINUTES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'RE A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SO WE'RE GETTING READY TO OPEN IT UP. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS TO SHARE? OH, NO, I, I, BUT I DO BELIEVE I'VE FINISHED ALL MY, YEAH, THAT WAS IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO SPEAK TO US FOR AGAINST THEIR COMMENT, NOT SEEING 30 MINUTES MS. BISCAY, WHICH HAS ALREADY ADVISED, YOU SAID THREE MINUTES. 
          AND I SAID, WHAT HAPPENS IF I ONLY GET ONE? WHICH TWO FINGERS DROP? YEAH. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JONATHAN LAW, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD. 
          UM, I, I LIKED THE IDEA OF MR. SHARP'S QUESTION. 
          WHAT PROBLEM ARE WE SOLVING THAT IS DISTRIBUTION CENTERS AND HAVING SPENT THE BETTER PART OF LAST 12 YEARS IN LOGISTICS AND DISTRICT DISTRIBUTING TOURISM BROCHURES. 
          I FULLY APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I THINK AS A SERVICE INDUSTRY, DISTRIBUTION IS A, UH, A VIABLE, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR US, MR. SPOONER. 
          AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WEGMAN'S DISTRIBUTION CENTER GOING UP IN HANOVER COUNTY AND HOW I THOUGHT IN MY WAY OF THINKING THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN A BAD, UH, OPPORTUNITY FOR GOOCHLAND IN THE WEST CREEK AREA. 
          I'M A SIMPLE PERSON THOUGH. 
          I DON'T ALWAYS EXHIBIT IT. 
          UM, BUT IF YOU HAD A LIST OF THE  AND SPECIFICALLY NAMED THE ROADS AND SAY BY RIGHT  ON THESE ROADS WOULD PROVIDE BUY, RIGHT. 
          THIS GUY WOULD UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT MY OPPORTUNITIES, WHERE I WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO TO A TABLE AND SAY, IS THIS A SIX OR A FIVE? IT WOULD BE. 
          AND I JUST HEARD THE QUESTION, WHAT ABOUT ASHLAND ROAD? UM, CAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THAT LIST EITHER. 
          SO IF WE'RE LOOKING TO ENCOURAGE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, WHICH I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO DO AS A COUNTY, UM, MAKE A LIST OF THE ROADS AND THE M ONE M TWO AREAS AND SAY BUY RIGHT. 
          IF YOU HAVE A DISTRIBUTION CENTER ON THESE ROADS AND M ONE M TWO, WELCOME TO GOOCHLAND. 
          AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S GETTING CLOSE TO NINE O'CLOCK AND I DON'T KNOW, I CAN THINK ANY MORE COMPLICATED 
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THAN THAT. 
          SO I HOPE WE DO PUT IN A DISTRIBUTION OPPORTUNITY OR DESIGNATION AND THEN JUST MAKE IT SIMPLE AND JUST LIST THE ROADS AND SAYING, IF IT'S ON THESE ROADS, YOU CAN DO IT. 
          THANKS VERY MUCH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE STILL ROLLING. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYBODY ELSE ON JOHNSON? 2151 JOHNSON ROAD. 
          UM, THE QUESTION THAT SEEMED TO BE BOUNCING AROUND A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NOT KNOWING WHAT'S COMING AND WHAT MIGHT BE COMING IN THE FUTURE, UM, NOT TO POINT OUT SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT'S IMMEDIATELY RELEVANT FROM TONIGHT, BUT YOU JUST SORT OF GRANTED A BLANK CHECK EM TO, YOU COULD HAVE ALREADY APPROVED A DISTRIBUTION CENTER TONIGHT WITHOUT REALIZING IT AT THE, UH, JOHNSON ROAD AND ASH, UH, ASHLAND ROAD, THE  THAT WAS JUST APPROVED TONIGHT. 
          ANY M TWO WOULD QUALIFY FOR A DISTRIBUTION CENTER. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE THINGS THAT YOU SEEM TO WORRY ABOUT ABOUT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, THIS WAS ONE OF THOSE IS THIS BLANK CHECK THAT YOU COULD HARDLY HAVE ONE ANYWAY. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          OKAY. 
          BOARD DISCUSSION. 
          I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION FROM THE SHERIFF. 
          YOU DON'T MIND? YES MA'AM SO, UM, I'M THINKING MID POINT NOW, MID POINT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY AM ONE THERE, BUT LET ME POINT THIS ONE'S MIDPOINT. 
          CORRECT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. 
          JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT MIDPOINT IS NOT THE ROAD IT'S ON IS MIDPOINT DRIVE. 
          IT'S NOT OLD FREDERICKSBURG OR ANY OF THAT. 
          SO WOULD THEY BE OUT OF THE RUNNING? UH, SO THAT, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. 
          WE DID TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION EACH ONE OF THE, UM, ALREADY ZONED PROPERTIES. 
          WHEN WE LOOKED AT MIDPOINT, UM, YOU'RE CORRECT ABOUT THE ROAD. 
          THEY WOULD REQUIRE CEP PLUS, UM, THE WAY THAT IT IS CURRENTLY PACKAGED, THERE ARE DIFFERENT OWNERS WITHIN I BELIEVE AND DIFFERENT USES WITHIN. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE PROCESSES THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, ASIDE FROM THE ZONING TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO COME IN AND GET A DISTRIBUTION CENTER. 
          BUT YES, IT WOULD REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. 
          SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THEM. 
          SO EVEN THOUGH THE, THE STREET THAT THEY'RE ON IS NOT ON THE LIST AS A FIVE OR SIX, CORRECT. 
          THEY ARE STILL ELIGIBLE. 
          UH, SO SINCE THEY'RE NOT A FIVE OR SIX, UH, THEY HAVE THE ZONING IN PLACE, BUT THEY COULD NOT BUY RIGHT. 
          HAVE A DISTRIBUTION CENTER. 
          THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND ONE AND M TWO, UM, THE M TWO WOULD BE ALLOWED BY, RIGHT. 
          AND AGAIN, WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, OF THE PROPERTY AND THE IMPACT POTENTIAL IMPACT. 
          SO IF THERE'S AN, IF THERE IS ANY M TWO IN THERE, WHICH THAT'S THE DARKER PURPLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO MAKE MY BE RIGHT THERE. 
          UH IT'S IF THERE'S AN M M TWO ZONING IN THERE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE ON ONE OF THESE ROADS. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          SO ANYTIME THAT WE ADD ANOTHER INDUSTRIAL AREA, WHETHER IT'S INDUSTRIAL PARK OR ANYTHING, AND IT'S, IT'S OFF OF ONE OF THE MAIN ROADS, IT WOULD QUALIFY. 
          OKAY. 
          IF, IF YOU WERE ADDING IT TO THE MAP, IT WOULD GO THROUGH EVERY ZONING PROCESS AND YOU WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE THE APPLICATION, I THINK, IS THAT THE REZONING APPLICATION? YES. 
          THE REZONING, WE DIDN'T REACH SOME SORT OF PROFFER, CORRECT. 
          TAKING DISTRIBUTION CENTERS OUT OF THE PERMITTED USES, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED EARLIER TONIGHT WITH M TWO OFF OF ASHLAND AND JOHNSON IN THE LIST OF THINGS THEY REMOVED. 
          IT WAS NOT DISTRIBUTION CENTER. 
          OF COURSE THEY DIDN'T PUT IT IN THERE CAUSE IT'S NOT YET AN EXISTING. 
          IT'S NOT YET PREVENTED TERMINAL HAS BEEN REMOVED. 
          UH, YES, TECHNICALLY THAT LED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY BECAUSE MS. LAST YOU'RE YOU'RE CORRECT. 
          I MEAN, IF, IF WE APPROVE AN M TWO AND, AND PROFFERS ARE NOT 
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INCLUDED THAT EXCLUDE THE USE OF DISTRIBUTION CENTER YES. 
          THEN THEY WOULD HAVE IT BY, RIGHT. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET AN ADDITIONAL STEP TO THAT. 
          THAT SAID, WHAT ROAD THEY'RE WRONG? CORRECT. 
          IT COULD BE ANY ROAD, NOT JUST THESE ROADS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ON THIS LIST, ANY ROAD IN COUNTY, IF ATTEMPTED, AND WE APPROVE IT. 
          SO, I MEAN,  IS OUR MOST INTENSIVE INDUSTRIAL USE TYPE AREAS. 
          AND THERE'S A LIST OF PERMITTED BY RIGHT. 
          USES FOR THAT MOST INTENSE AREA. 
          THIS WOULD JUST BE ADDED AS ONE OF THOSE MANY BY RIGHT. 
          MOST INTENSE AREAS. 
          UH, IF IT IT'S NOT SUITABLE FOR HIGHLY INTENSE INDUSTRIAL, THEN IT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE SELLING THEM TO, I GUESS. 
          BUT ANYWAY. 
          PERFECT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND I'M JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRIAL PARKS KIND OF SEEMS LIKE SORT OF THE RIGHT PLACE FOR THEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          JUST SAYING, THANKS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANYTHING ELSE? ANY OTHER DISCUSSION WE'RE GONNA GET OUT OF HERE BEFORE NINE, MR. ALVAREZ? UH, JEREMY. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, WELL, OKAY. 
          I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND WE CAN GET A MOTION AND FOLLOW UP DISCUSSION ON IF WE WANT TO HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION, BUT LET'S GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVED THE GOOSE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT A COUNTY WIDE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ALLOW IN DISTRIBUTION CENTERS WITH ROAD ACCESS CATEGORY BASED ON SECTION 15 DASH 3, 4, 4 CLASSIFIED ROAD OF FIVE OR SIX AS A BI-RITE USE AND ALL OTHER ROAD ACCESS CATEGORIES WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE INDUSTRIAL LIMITED AND ONE DISTRICT. 
          AND AS A BI-RITE USE IN THE INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AND TWO DISTRICT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THIS ACTUALLY THE MOTION, DOESN'T SAY IT SAYS, UM, DISTRIBUTION CENTERS WITH OKAY. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE BY, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          GOTCHA. 
          SORRY. 
          I GOT IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. 
          ROLL CALL. 
          REAL QUICK. 
          ROLL CALL. 
          VOTE. 
          I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT MR. PETERSON. 
          YES, YES, YES. 
          MR. CHAR CALL ME FIRST. 
          YES. 
          MR. SHARP. 
          YES. 
          YES, YES. 
          YES. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL ADJOURN UNTIL, UH, A WEEK FROM TODAY AT 9:00 AM AT THE RESIDENCE INN FOR A LEGISLATIVE MEETING. 
          AND 
          [XVI. Adjournment: The Board of Supervisors will adjourn as follows:]
THEN TUESDAY, OCTOBER 5TH, WE'LL BE BACK HERE FOR 2:00 PM, 6:00 PM. 
          ALL MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING. 
          THIRD OR FOURTH, MAYBE I NEVER COOKED ON YOUR FIRST DEVICE.
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