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IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME.WOULD YOU WANT TO AT LEAST START THAT PORTION OF
THERE WERE TRAFFIC LIGHTS DOWN THERE.
WE WERE CONSIDERING GETTING STARTED WITH SOME PRELIMINARIES, BUT NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS
YEAH, THIS IS MR. COREY DANDRIDGE.
THESE ARE NEW OF NEWLY APPOINTED ALTERNATE.
SO WE'D LIKE TO DO A BRIEF INTRODUCTION, UH, GOOD EVENING, UM, CORONARY STANDARDS, PLEASE CALL ME COURT.
I WAS BORN IN GULCH CLAN, MOVED TO NEW COUNTY AND, UH, IT WAS IN EIGHTH GRADE.
UH, GRADUATES WENT TO REGULAR HIGH SCHOOL AND 93 WENT TO VCU WHERE I MAJORED IN FINANCE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT.
MY WIFE, UH, WE MOVED BACK TO HOUSTON IN 2003.
AND, UM, I AS A SCHOOL TEACHER IN THE COUNTY AND I WAS IN CORPORATE AMERICA FOR SOME YEARS
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AND THE 2011, I STARTED MY OWN LANDSCAPING COMPANY.WE WEREN'T AS LANDSCAPING LOCALLY, LOCALLY OUT.
UM, AND AS WELL, WE GOT TWO BEAUTIFUL KIDS, WONDERFUL KIDS, 16 YEAR OLD SON, 11 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER.
AND I WAS APPOINTED BY MY DISTRICT TO REPRESENTATIVE NEIL'S, BUT WITHOUT, UM, HAVE YOU, SIR, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU NICE TO MEET YOU.
I'LL DO IT REALLY QUICKLY SO THAT WE DON'T USE UP A LOT OF TIME, BUT KIND ENOUGH TO INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
I'M STEVE, FARACE A RESIDENT HERE.
SEE THAT ON A DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.
UH, MY COLLEAGUES HAD THE BAD JUDGMENT TO ASK ME TO SERVE AS CHAIR, AT LEAST THIS SESSION.
UM, I, UH, UH, I WORK FOR TAYLOR PRESTON IN TOWN AS A LITIGATION ATTORNEY DOWNTOWN.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER AND THEN LOTS OF LOCAL DEVELOPMENTS AROUND SEVEN YEARS AGO, MANY YEARS AGO NOW.
AND, UH, UH, I DON'T, I HAVE NOT BEEN ACTIVE ON THIS COMMITTEE ONLY AS AN ALDERMAN, SINCE MAY A SUDDEN HERE I AM.
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY YOUTUBE, JOSH, THANK YOU.
I'M JOSH GILLESPIE UP IN COMMUNITY PLANNER AND I'M A RENT, UH, GOOCHLAND RESIDENT.
UM, I AM A COMMUTER TO ORANGE COUNTY WHERE I'M THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, SO WE'RE PLANNING AND BUILDING UP THERE AND I WISH OUR TRAFFIC LIGHTS AS WELL, BUT I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THOSE.
I'M HAPPY TO SEE DIFFERENT TRAFFIC PATTERNS AND WEATHER PATTERNS.
AND SO IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THE POCKET OF GOODWILL IT IS.
AS WE KNOW THAT BEAU IN THE JAMES RIVER AND THE WEATHER, THE WEATHER COMES THROUGH HERE.
I HAD A NASTY LITTLE POCKET ON THE WAY DOWN, BUT I'M THRILLED TO BE ABLE TO SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY FOR MY ACCOUNT.
WELL, IF WE'RE READY THEN WE SHOULD CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.
[A. CALL TO ORDER & DETERMINATION OF QUORUM]
YES, SIR.WE HAVE A FORUM, UM, OUR FIRST SCHEDULED APPLICATIONS AND DISTRICT
[B. SCHEDULED APPLICATIONS:]
FOR COA 20 21 6 APPLICATION BY VALVOLINE, LLC REQUESTING CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL COA TO CONSIDER A COMMERCIAL BUILDING NEW CONSTRUCTION ON A PORTION OF TAX MAP, 59 1 0 38.THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED INTO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.
I'M AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HERE.
UM, SO INTERESTING ENOUGH, MY FIRST DRC MEETING HERE AS WELL TONIGHT.
UM, AGAIN, THE APPLICATION IS CLA 2021
UM, THIS GUY FOR THE APPLICATION, UM, THE MAJOR PORTIONS OF THE APPLICATION FOR CRIMINAL WAS, UM, ABLE TO BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THE PROPOSED DATE OR PLACEMENT IN ORIENTATION IS NOT WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE EVERGLADE REQUIREMENTS AND YOUR STAFF REPORT.
ORIGINALLY, THERE WAS A CONCERN REGARDING PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
UM, THAT REQUEST HAS BEEN REMOVED AS THE APPLICANT HAS IN AN ALTERNATIVE PEDESTRIAN SYSTEM THAT ISN'T ILLUSTRATIVELY APPROVAL.
AND I WILL DEMONSTRATE THAT DURING MY PRESENTATION, AGAIN, IT'S LIKE LOCATION, CENTERVILLE VILLAGE AND SOME OF THE NORTH SIDE OF BROAD STREET ROAD.
HERE'S AN INTERSECTION OF BROAD STREET, BUT WITHOUT LANDED IN THE, THE VENT THERE, UM, THIS IS A, A PROJECT THAT WILL HAVE, UM, OTHER TYPES OF USES COMING ALONG, UM, PROBABLY SODIUM TO OVERALL THERE'S SEVERAL ADDITIONAL PARCELS THAT WOULD BE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ALSO THE REDESIGN OF A LITTLE TYPE OF COURT AS THAT GETS BUILT, GETS BUILT OUT.
SO APPROXIMATELY TWO OF THE 13.209 ACRES THAT IS WITHIN THE SANITY AND WHOSE USE IS PERMITTED BY, RIGHT.
SO I MENTIONED BEFORE WE DID REFERENCE IN OUR STAFF REPORT, THERE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT NOT HAVING A PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FROM ALONG THE SIDEWALK ALONG BROAD STREET WHEN INTO THE SITE, UM, THE APPLICANT AS SHOWN,
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UM, THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE THE ACCESS.IT WILL ACTUALLY COME THROUGH THE SIDEWALK THAT RUNS ALONG A LITTLE TAKOTA COURT AND ACROSS THE TOMMY'S CARWASH SITE INTO THESE SITES.
SO JUST SO I MAKE SURE THAT I'M SEEING THAT CORRECTLY DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT PICTURE.
THE LAST ONE I GET THAT WE'RE SHOWING YOU THE SIDEWALK, NOT ONLY ON LITTLE TACO GRIEF, BUT A SIDEWALK RIGHT ON 2 55 THAT'S COMING ACROSS, RIGHT? YEAH.
IT'S OUR NATHAN SIDEWALK WARRANTY, 50 SITTERS PROPOSING THE ACCESS WOULD COME IN THIS WAY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T REALLY PROVIDE NECESSARILY HAS TO BE A DIRECT ACCESS, BUT HAVE, UM, THE SIDEWALK WARREN STREET INITIATIVE, THERE'S SOME PEDESTRIAN MEANS IN THERE.
WE THOUGHT THIS WAS A REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE.
UH, THE SIDEWALK RUNS ALONG BROAD STREET.
IT COMES TO THE SITE CURRENTLY, I'VE GOT COFFEE.
I GOT TO WALK THE STREET TILL I GET THE PHONE.
WELL, THE KEBAB ALONG THE CURVE TO THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DISCUSS WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT SOMEONE'S LIGHTS, UH, INCREASE OF THE SIDEWALK AT TIME OF PLAN REVIEW.
UM, IT DOES MEET THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT BY CONNECTING THERE.
THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, IF THE INTERNAL DRIVE THEY COULD WALK ALONG OR ACROSS INDUSTRY AND INDUSTRY, I MEAN THE REQUIREMENTS TO CONNECT TO THE SITE.
UM, BUT THAT YOU, THE PLAN REVIEW AND LIKE, I CAN DO IT FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT IF WE CAN TALK TO THIS ABILITY TO PROVIDE PERHAPS A CONNECTION NOW, THE PARKING, BUT YEAH, BUT AGAIN, AS PART OF THIS REVIEW, THEY'VE MET WITH THE ORDINANCE FOR ABOUT OKAY.
SO THAT THEY'RE REALLY FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY IS REGARDING THE DATE DOORS BASED ON BROAD STREET RED, UM, TO PROVIDE THE ORDINANCE, UH, PROVISION THAT CALLS OR THE USES THAT INCORPORATE DATE TOURS, THEY SHOULD ORIENT THE BAY DOORS.
UM, SO THEY DO NOT FACE BROAD STREET, RIGHT? UM, THEY PASS AND THEY MAY BE ACCESSED FROM THE STRUCTURAL SIDE OR NEAR.
UM, WE HAVE A GOOD EXAMPLE HERE JUST FROM ANOTHER LOCATION, THE DABBLING.
SO YOU SEE HOW THE MAIN DOOR IS ORIENTED TOWARDS THE STREETS.
UM, AND THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS AND LAYOUT ARE AND PROVIDE THEM IN THE STAFF REPORT AND ALSO DEMONSTRATE WHAT'S BEEN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT AT THIS POINT.
UM, SO AGAIN, IT DOES DEMONSTRATE THAT THE ELEVATION SHOWS THAT THE BAY DOORS FACE ROUTE TWO 50, UM, THEY ALSO FACE DIRECTLY TO THE REAR.
THESE ARE ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO PULL THROUGH, UM, THEY DOORS FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, SOME IN THE REAR EXIT THROUGH THE FRONT THINGS, THEY TO WORSE.
UM, THEY DO REQUEST A DEVIATION FROM THE STANDARDS RELATED TO THINK ORIENTATION.
AND THEY PROPOSED THE USE OF TWO SMALL WALLS AND SOME LANDSCAPING ALONG PART OF THE BROAD STREET, RIGHT IN FRONT EDGE NEAR THE DROPOUTS.
BUT YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDES.
SO THIS IS A RENDERING THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT DEMONSTRATING, UH, THE PROVISION OF THE WALLS AND SOME MATURE LANDSCAPING.
THIS IS ACTUALLY LOOKING BACK TOWARDS THE EAST, THE BROAD STREETS, I MEAN SEE BOOKS, RIDGE PARKWAY HERE IN THE FOREGROUND.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LOW WALLS HERE WITH THE LANDSCAPE PROVIDED, UM, IT'S A SMALL WALL HERE AND THEN ANOTHER SMALL WALL EVERY YEAR TOMMY'S CARWASH AND THE MATERIALS AND BLEEDS THAT THEY GAVE FOR US.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE MATERIAL WAS OBVIOUSLY AND GIVE HIM ONE AT THIS POINT, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS THE PRAYER AT TOMMY'S AS WELL? STAY THERE.
I THINK THERE WAS SOME HEIGHT DIFFERENCE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, THIS IS ANOTHER VIEW AGAIN FOR THE AES.
UM, AGAIN, THE WALLS ARE CONCENTRATED THAT THEY GO, UH, PARALLEL TO BROAD STREET GRADE.
AND THIS IS LOOKING GENERALLY, YOU'RE COMING FROM, UH, THESE HEADING BLAST ON WEST BROAD STREET HERE, AGAIN IN THE FOREGROUND.
THEY SIMULATED THE MATURE VEGETATION AND THE USE OF THE TWO SMALL WALLS HERE WITH THE LITTLE BIT OF LANDSCAPING STUFF ON THAT.
SO IT'S DEMONSTRATING THAT THE PLAN HERE, WE SEE THE TWO FOOTBALL WAS PROPOSED INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN RECENT CASES.
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ABOUT? THE FOUR RATINGS TOMMY'S CASE THREE AND A HALF FOUR.I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE, UM, YEAH, AND A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENT CASES, THE WAY, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH THEY ALSO COVER, UM, THE LADY ARRANGED BY THE WALLS AND ENDED UP THE OPENING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO COVER.
UM, SO THE LAWS HERE, UM, THIS IS DEMONSTRATING THAT THE WALLS HERE BETWEEN THESE THREES AND YOU ALSO HAVE THE, UH, LANDSCAPING PROVIDED, UM, AGAIN TOO, BUT DECORATIVE STONE WALLS, UM, ARE PREPARED, UM, AS PREPARED AS THE COMBINATION OF THE SMALL LAWS AND THEN LANDSCAPE, IT DOESN'T SERVE AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS.
WELL, BUT THEY PROPOSED THIS TWO FEET WHILE IT WAS DEMONSTRATED.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, FOR YOU TO MAKE A DECISION UPON, UM, TASK GUIDANCES.
WELL REALLY COMES DOWN TO THAT.
YOU GET TO SELECT THE DEVIATION, UM, FROM THIS, UM, STAFF, TYPICALLY WITH OUR CASES, WE DON'T REALLY PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION.
WE'LL GIVE GUIDANCE AS TO WHAT'S OCCURRED IN THE PAST AND SOME ALTERNATIVES THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED, UM, FOR THIS, THE CONSIDERATION COULD BE GIVEN TO THE BUILDING ORIENTATION, UM, OR REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SCREENING TO INCLUDE, UM, INCREASING SIZE OF THE WALL, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, UM, RELOCATION OF THE WALLS, UM, TO HELP OBSCURE THE VIEW FROM BROAD STREET.
UM, I THINK THAT WE DEMONSTRATED, UM, FROM THE APPLICANT THAT DIFFERENT VIEWS INTO THE SITE, UM, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THAT IT'S NOT JUST PUBLIC EDUCATION, THERE'S OTHER WAYS THAT, THAT THE COMMITTEE COULD CONSIDER, UM, DIFFERENT LANDSCAPING OR WALL ALTERNATIVES TO ACHIEVE THE SAME PURPOSE OF MINIMIZING.
MAYBE THIS WILL BE A QUESTION FOR MS. MOLLY, BUT FOR MY EDIFICATION DURING THE COURSE OF THE PROCESSING STAFF, WAS THERE EVER ANY ARTICULATION AS TO WHY THE BUILDING HAS BASIC, UM, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY INFORMATION OF WHY HAD THE MEETING ORIENTED THAT WAY? I CAN ANTICIPATE THAT YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE THAT QUESTION AND I DON'T WANT TO JUMP FORWARD AND, UH, STOP HERE.
SO AGAIN, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, THE CHRISTMAS MOTHER, THAT'S GOING TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION AS WELL, UM, TO EXPLAIN THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND THANK YOU.
I'M JENNIFER MELA WITH BROCK JACKSON HERE ON BEHALF OF VALVOLINE.
AND WITH ME TONIGHT, I HAVE GARLAND WATKINS WITH VALVOLINE.
JUST RAISE YOUR HAND, CLAY GROGAN WITH PARKER DESIGN GROUP, THE ENGINEER, UM, AND CLARK JONES, UM, WITH JONES REALTY CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO TO START WITH THE FIRST QUESTION, UM, THE ONLY QUESTION PERHAPS WAS THE ORIENTATION.
SO WE'LL START THERE AND THEN I'LL WALK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, HAVING TO TAKE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE, UM, WANT TO HIJACK YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU FEEL WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO SEND SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND THEN WE'LL JUST WALK THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT THE VISIBILITY.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE ONE PIECE THAT WE'RE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS WITH RESPECT TO THE BAY DOORS.
SO THE OTHER PIECES OF THE, OF THE BUILDING ARE ABLE TO BE ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED.
UH, THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING IS DESIGNED THIS WAY.
SO PEOPLE, UM, WHEN THEY COME TO DEVELOPMENT, THEY DON'T GET OUT OF THEIR CARS AND ACTUALLY STAY WITH THEIR CAR AND THEY GO THROUGH.
AND SO THE, THE IDEA MUCH LIKE WITH TOMMY'S CARWASH, THEY GO IN AND THEY STAY WITH YOUR CAR ALL THE WAY THROUGH, AND THEN THEY EXIT.
SO HERE, THE PROCESS TAKES ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
UM, AND SO THEY ARE STAYING IN THEIR CAR AND GOING THROUGH, BUT THAT HAS STACKING SPACES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT DESIGN ON ONE SECOND.
AND SO THE, THE STACKING SPACES ARE, WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE DESIGN.
IF YOU FLIP IT, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO HAVE THOSE STACKING SPACES.
SO THAT IS THE REASON NUMBER ONE FOR THE ORIENTATION AND REASON NUMBER TWO, WHICH WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHEN WE GET INTO SOME OF THE, THE VIEWS THAT WE SUBMITTED, IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT MORE VISIBLE.
UM, PARTICULARLY AS YOU'RE COMING FROM THE WEST TO SEE THE BAY DOORS, IF YOU TURN THE BUILDING THE OTHER SIDE.
SO THE FIRST IS IT DOESN'T FIT.
AND THE SECOND IS IF IT BECOMES MORE
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VISIBLE, YES, THE PERSON WHO IS PURCHASING THE SURFACE, THEY STAY IN THE CAR INSURANCE COVERS THAT I WOULD TEND TO DEFER TO DOUBLING THAT.I WOULD ASSUME THAT EVERYTHING IS ALL ENCOMPASSED.
SO USUALLY WHEN YOU GET, WHEN YOU GO INTO ANY GUNS OR SERVICE, YOU HAVE TO GET IT OUT.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL ENCOMPASSED IN THE OVERALL SERVICE, WHICH I THINK SOUNDS LIKE A BIG BENEFIT TO THE, YOU WILL HAVE NOBODY WHO IS IN LINE WAITING WHO MIGHT WANT TO GO OVER TO WALMART AND GET A CUP OF COFFEE OR SOMETHING THAT'S CORRECT.
THEN WE'LL PROBABLY DRIVE OUT AND GO TO WALMART AND THEIR CAR TO GET A CUP OF COFFEE.
SO AS A CLARIFICATION, IF I MAY, IS THERE A TO GET OUT OF THE CAR OR THE ONLY SERVICE PROVIDED, I BELIEVE THE ONLY SERVICE TO PROVIDE IS PROVIDED IS REMAINING IN THE CAR, THE BUSINESS MODEL, WE DON'T PROVIDE ANY THINK THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL MINIMAL CLOSET, LIFE WAITING ROOM, BUT OUR MODEL IS THAT SARAH, THAT'S OUR CHEF.
IF YOU WILL, THE MARKETER PROGRAM.
SO YOU CANNOT PARK AND WALK OUT, CORRECT.
WOULD YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT STACKING? IS THERE A BUSINESS PLACE? PROBABLY THE WRONG WORD, BUT HOW MANY CARS ARE WE TRYING TO STACK? IT MUST BE AS A MODEL OF YOUR BUSINESS.
THERE MUST BE A LIMITATION ON HOW MUCH TRAFFIC.
WE ALWAYS REPRESENT NINE, THREE WIDE FREE D NATIONALLY.
WE START WITH THE ASSUMPTION, WE'RE DOING 45 OIL CHANGES A DAY AND TALK TO THE BUSINESS SKILLS FROM THERE IN ANY WAY.
THAT'S WHAT WE FOUND OUT WITH ACROSS THE NATION.
THAT'S SORT OF, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THAT BEING AND THE THREE WIDE 3D THAT THE THREE DEEP INCLUDES THE ONE IN THE BAY.
NO, THE THREE WIDE OR DEEP, IF YOU INCLUDE THE ONE IN THE BANK AND THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE TRAVEL WAY NOW.
WELL, THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY IT IS CODE REQUIRED.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK ON SOME, UM, ALTERNATIVES IN ORDER TO REDUCE THAT NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, BECAUSE WE WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT ALL THAT PARKING IS A LOT.
IT IS, UNFORTUNATELY THAT WAS A CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY.
UM, BUT WE WOULD WELCOME ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SUGGEST OVERALL PARKING.
TELL ME IF YOU CAN ARTICULATE IT WITH ANY ADDITIONAL PARTICULAR AS TO WHY YOU THINK BUILDING, PARTICULARLY GIVEN SOME OF THE SCREENING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH RESPECT TO TOMMY'S CARWASH.
THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GOT AN ELEVATION NATURE OF THE PROPERTY, WHY THAT WOULD MAKE THE BAY MORE VISIBLE COMING FROM THE WEST, OBVIOUSLY THAT ALSO NEEDS TO BE LESS VISIBLE, NOT NECESSARILY.
SO TOMMY'S WILL BE IN THE WAY OF, LET ME, LET ME JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A COUPLE OF PIECES ON THIS SLIDE AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE VIEW SHEDS.
SO IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT COMING 55 ON BROAD STREET HERE, RIGHT? AND SO YOU ARE ABLE TO SEE IT ABOUT THIS LOCATION.
SO IF YOU'RE TURNING THE BUILDING THERE, YOUR VIEW IS GOING TO BE STRAIGHT ON THE SIDE.
IF YOU'RE COMING FROM THE WEST, I'M GOING TO NEED TO GO OVER HERE IN ORDER TO DEMONSTRATE ME COMING FROM THE WEST.
UM, OR IF YOU'RE ACROSS THE STREET AT WILKES RIDGE, LOOKING AT THE SIDE AND I'LL SHOW YOU THIS VIEW IS IN PARTICULAR ONE THAT YOU WILL YOU'LL SEE, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE SIDE OF THIS BUILDING, WHICH IS A NICE BRICK, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR COLOR OR TONE FOR A TURN FACADE.
IF YOU TURN IT, THAT WOULD BE THE, THAT WOULD BE THE BAIN THAT WORKS THERE.
UM, AND SO, UH, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE MEDIA, MAYBE THEN DO MY POWERPOINT DANCE BEFORE THIS.
SO, UM, NUMBER THREE, AND THIS ONE IS INTERESTING CONNECT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTUALLY TRAVELING EAST.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT PATIENT.
AND THEN NUMBER ONE IS COMING EAST.
YOU CAN GET THE SPACE AGAIN FOR ME.
SO AS YOU SEE THAT SIDE VIEW, THAT THAT'S WHAT I MEAN ABOUT THE VISIBILITY.
SO OUTSIDE OF THE, THE FACT THAT IT JUST DOESN'T WORK, UM, FROM A MATHEMATICAL STANDPOINT THAT VISIBILITY THERE, AND OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TOMMY'S RIGHT HERE, BUT THE TOMMY'S THE SETBACK AT A SIMILAR FRONT FACADE LEVEL, UM, AS THIS BUILDING.
SO YOU DO HAVE, I THINK, VISIBILITY OF THOSE BIG DOORS THERE, WHEREAS IN THE FRONT, WE'RE ABLE TO USE THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TOMMY'S.
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FOUR RINGS.SO THIS IS THE SAME LANDSCAPE PROGRAM, IF YOU WILL.
SO THAT YOU, AGAIN KNOW, AS WE TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE WERE ESTABLISHING THAT, THAT FEELING, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE IN A, AN OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
SO YOU'VE GOT THE, UM, THE EVERGREEN SHRUBS THAT ARE FOUR TO SIX FEET TALL.
YOU HAVE THE, YOU HAVE THE WALL THAT IS THE SAME MATERIALS.
YOU HAVE THE, UM, MATURE HEIGHT TREES HERE.
YOU HAVE THE MATURE HEIGHT TREES, UM, WITHIN THE SITE AS WELL.
AND THEN ON THIS VIEW ALSO, YOU WILL HAVE THOSE, IF YOU RECALL, THIS IS THE AREA OF THE WALLS FOR THE TAMI.
SO YOU'LL HAVE THOSE WALLS HERE.
UM, I THINK IT ACTUALLY STARTS ABOUT AT THE POLE.
IT GOES THIS WAY, AND THEN THE LANDSCAPING, IT IS SORT OF WRAPPING AROUND THAT CORNER THERE.
CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? UM, SO THIS IS THE WILKES RIDGE VIEW, WHICH, UM, STAFF SHOWED YOU BEFORE, BUT HE CAN SEE THE, THE LANDSCAPING A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT BETTER THERE, BUT AGAIN, HERE EVEN HAVE A DIRECT LINE OF SIGHT INTO THE SIDE.
IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO THIS ONE YOU'RE THERE, YOU'RE IN THE CAR GOING WRONG WAY, BUT YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE EXISTING TREES, UM, THAT ARE UP THE CREEK ABOUT RIGHT HERE COMING UP.
UM, AND THEN THIS HAS YOUR, AGAIN, NEW LANDSCAPING WITHIN THE PARKING LOT AREA OF YOUR LANDSCAPING IN THE FRONT.
UM, THE, THE GREEN, UH, EVERGREEN SHRUBS, AS WELL AS THE DECORATIVE WALL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, THIS JUST SHOWS THE OVERALL, SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, JUST GOING BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE.
SO THOSE ARE THE REASONS THAT WE FEEL THAT THEY, UM, I'M SORRY, IS THERE A REASON WHY THE ORIENTATION ACCOUNT FOR YOUR STACKING PARKING SPACES? I DON'T THINK THAT HE WOULD EVEN STILL HAVE THE ROOM I WOULD DEFER TO PLAY, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU STILL HAVE THAT SPACE.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED ADDITIONAL WIDTH, RIGHT? THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM THERE.
IF YOU BASICALLY TAKE THIS, THE DRIVE AISLE THAT IS JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THOSE TOP PARKING SPACES.
AND IF YOU ROTATED THAT 90 DEGREES, WE ARE WELL INTO THE BOMB SITE.
AND OVER INCIDENT, THE FLOODPLAIN AREA, WE, WE ALLOW PARKING, IT'S A COUPLE OF SHIFTS OR EMBARRASS ON MANAGED CARE MODEL FOR THREE DAYS, 10 SPACES FOR US, ONE HANDICAP.
AND THAT ALLOWS FOR A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP WITH THE TWO SHIFTS THAT KIND OF DEFINES IT IN PROBABLY SEVEN OR EIGHT IN ANY ONE TIME, DEPENDING ON THE BUSINESS FAMILY OR TIME OF THE DAY.
SO, WELL, IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU CAN RIGHT, TURN IT 90 DEGREES ELIMINATE
SO I THINK WHAT MR. GROGAN JUST SAID WAS, EVEN, EVEN IF YOU GOT RID OF THAT PARKING, THERE'S STILL NOT ENOUGH SPACE.
SO THE ORIENTATION DOES NOT WORK.
EVEN IF YOU, THE SECOND I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M NECESSARILY TURN INTO THE PARKING OR TURN INTO PROBABLY STACKED TO AT LEAST TWO CARS BEHIND THE REORIENTED BUILDING.
THEN
SO SEPARATE AND APART FROM THIS PROCESS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE NUMBER, UM, USING THE BUILDING, BUT WE CAN'T NOT PARK THE SITE.
UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S NOT A KNOCK.
I DON'T HAVE A, I DON'T HAVE AN OPTION FOR THAT.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CHANGE THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO AT THE MOMENT WE'RE BEFORE YOU FOR WHAT WE HOPEFULLY THINK IS AN APPROPRIATE MITIGATION OF THE VAPE, OR BECAUSE WE, THE SITE DOESN'T WORK TO ORIENT IT, UM, VERTICALLY.
UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE A VERY, UM, HIGH VISIBILITY, UH, COMING FROM THE EAST SIDE, HEADING WEST.
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UH, YOU KNOW, A REORIENTATION FOR SIMILAR FUSION, I THINK THAT'S FOR OTHERS BEYOND ME ALSO.I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GOING TO WAIT INTO THAT DEBATE.
I'M NOT SURE I GOT THE TECHNICAL SKILL, BUT I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE WALL.
TELL ME HOW YOU ARRIVED AT TWO FEET AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT'S ADEQUATE?
UM, SO I THINK JUST BASED ON, AGAIN, THIS SITE BEING ADJACENT TO THE TOMMY, SO THE THREE-PEAT WALL I HAVE GIVEN IN THIS LOCATION, BECAUSE THAT WAS RIGHT IN THE FRONT OF THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT SITE, THAT WAS CLEAR ON THOSE SIDES HERE.
SO ON THIS, ON THIS SIDE, WE'VE GOT SOME TREES AS WE COME UP.
UM, AND THIS SITE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN TOMMY.
SO THE THOUGHT OF THE, THE TWO FOOT WALL WITH THE SAME SIX FOOT EVERGREEN IS THAT, THAT HAD A SIMILAR, A SIMILAR VIEW, UM, AS YOU WERE DRIVING OUT.
SO THAT NOT IS THE, THE ARRIVAL OF IT.
AND IT'S THE SAME MATERIALS, DESIGN FEATURES AS THE, AS THE TOMMY'S WALL.
AND THEN AS THE FOUR RANKS, WHAT IS THE HEIGHT? DO YOU HAVE THE, THE HEIGHT? I MEAN, STORE, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T WANT TO SAY 12, THE REAR ELEVATION, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONLY HAVE THE TOP.
YOU GIVE THIS TO AN ENGINEER WHO WILL PROBABLY DECIDE FOR THEM.
AND SO, JUST TO REITERATE ON THE HEIGHT ON THESE TREES, TO THE, AGAIN, THE EVERGREENS ARE IN FOREST, THESE ARE UP TO 30 FEET OF MATURITY.
UM, SO YOU WOULD HAVE THAT DIFFERING, UM, LANDSCAPING AS A, AS A PATIENT NAVIGATION.
HE WAS JUST ASKING YOU ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE BAY DOORS.
AND I WAS JUST REMINDING OF WHAT THE HEIGHT OF THESE TREES ARE.
SO THE, THE SHRUBS ARE FOUR TO SIX FEET.
THESE ARE EVER UP TO 30 TO 40 FEET AT MATURITY.
SO YOU WILL HAVE THAT VARYING HEIGHT AND AS YOUR CANOPY EXPANDS, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE TOP OF THE TREE.
SO YOU'D HAVE A WIDE CANOPY UP THERE AND WE THINKING 12 FEET.
UM, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 12 FEET? IT'S PROBABLY JUST THE STANDARD CLEARANCE, I WOULD ASSUME.
YEAH, WE SERVICE, UH, I FORGET WHAT CLASS OF VAN OR SERVICE OR COMMERCIAL ROCKET TO SMALLEST COMMERCIAL TRUCK.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SET UP TO SERVICE, LARGER COMMERCIAL TRUCKS.
I FORGET IT'S A CLASS SOMETHING, RIGHT? I'M THAT PERSON THAT LIKES BOX SMELL.
IT'S PROBABLY A SMALL, IT'S NOT LIKE, I THINK IT'S A LARGE COMMERCIAL VAN, RIGHT? SO I WOULDN'T BE INTERESTED IN MINIMIZING.
THE PARKING FOR HOUSTON WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN SCORE ONE WAY, TRACK AND CIRCULATION.
AND I THINK THAT STARTS TO FREE UP THE SITES, BUT HAVING TO SET THAT ASIDE FOR THE MOMENT WE CAN'T CONSIDER THAT, UM, I, I PERSONALLY CAN ACCEPT THE ORIENTATION WITH THE BAY DOORS AS APPROPRIATE ON THE ROSTER WITH MEDICATION, WHICH I FEEL THAT THE DOOR HEIGHT, HOWEVER, IS SOMEWHAT MITIGATED IRONICALLY AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING TO THE BALCONY AND SIGNAGE IN A WAY THAT'S, UNADORNED ON A FACADE OR FRONT FACING ELEVATION ON STREET, ON BROAD STREET ROAD.
MY QUESTION WOULD BE IF THE 12 FOOT HEIGHT CLEARANCE IS NOT NECESSARY FOR THAT'S A PROTOTYPICAL DESIGN THAT YOU USE, WOULD YOU EXPLORE THE MELBOURNE? AND LIKE YOU HAVE AT YOUR ENTRY DOOR OVER THE COMMERCIAL IN THE WORKS.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD RELIEVE PARTIAL RELIEF TO WHAT'S THERE AND LEAVE THE PLAIN UTILITARIAN NATURE OF THE WALL.
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SO THESE ARE ABOVE THE BOARD.WELL, THE PROJECTING LINE REPLICATE THAT FEATURE ESSENTIALLY, RIGHT? YES.
WELL, OPERATION LATER WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY DETERMINED 12 FOOT.
I HAVEN'T HAD THEM EXPLAIN IT TO ME.
I WONDER IF WE COULD MITIGATE THAT BY HAVING A TALL WALL.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE MAJOR POINT OF DISCUSSION RELATED TO BUFFERING SCREENING FROM THE STREET WOULD BE THE TALLER WALL.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE SCREEN WALLS, RIGHT.
AND MAYBE YOU CAN JOIN THEM BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW.
I WOULD JUST SAY THAT ALL NATIONWIDE ONES, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT.
I WONDER IF WE CAN GO THE OTHER WAY HERE, WE CAN PUT THEM CLOSE TOGETHER AND BRING THEM UP TO, UH, BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE TOMMY'S HEIGHT.
AND CLARK, I BELIEVE YOU WERE GOING TO RAISE OUR SITE TO WHICH WE CHANGED THE VIEWING ANGLE IN FRONT OF THEM.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE HIGHER RAISE THE EXISTING
CAUSE IT'S COMING UP HERE ALL THE TIME.
SO RATHER THAN CUT IT ALL THE WAY DOWN, YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE IT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MITIGATE THAT.
SAVE AS MUCH AS WE CAN STAY AWAY FROM THAT FLOOD POINT.
JUST A WALL AS PROPOSED RIGHT NOW, JUST IN FRONT OR IT ALSO WHAT'S PROPOSED ON THAT SHORT AROUND.
UM, THE SIDE AS THE EVERGREEN SHRUBS.
SO THE MONUMENT SIGN IS THERE.
SO THAT WOULD HAVE A HEIGHT OF THE LINE 10 FEET.
SO THAT DOES HAVE A VISUAL BREAK TWO-WAY TRAFFIC ON THE WEST SIDE.
UM, THE QUESTION, WELL, THAT'S A GOOD SMILE.
THE OTHER COMPONENT IS WE HAVE A DELIBERATE DRUGS AT AN OIL WASTE OIL REMOVAL TRUCKS.
AND ONCE IT'S AT ONE END AND ONE SITS AT THE OTHER END OF THE BUILDING, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THEY COME, I'M AFRAID, BUT THEY BRING IN FRESH TANKS.
WE HAVE A BASEMENT, CERTAIN ABOUT THE SAFETY OF SAYING TO YOUR CAR, WE'RE NOT PUTTING ANYBODY UP ON THE DRIVE.
SO OF COURSE WE HAVE A BASEMENT WERE OTHER MODELS, BUT ANYWAY, SOMETIMES OUR LANE IS BLOCKED ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER BEING WASTED VERSUS THRESHOLD BEING BROUGHT IN.
SO BEYOND JUST HAVING GOOD CIRCULATION WITH, UH, TWO ROAD TRAFFIC, SOMETIMES THE LINES ARE BLOCKED, COULD CREATE SOME CONFUSION TO CUSTOMER KNOWING WHICH WAY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO.
I THINK A LOT OF INTERNAL DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE.
SO MAYBE WHO ALWAYS GOES THE WRONG WAY AND WILL NOT GO WRONG FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH.
I THINK WHERE MR. GILLESPIE IS THAT I, I THINK I UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE BOARD, WITH THE STATION BASED ON THE REPRESENTATIONS ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO WORK IN THE OTHER ORIENTATION, BUT I AM CONCERNED THAT THE EXISTING PROPOSED WALLS AT TWO FEET ARE TOO LOW.
IRONICALLY, IT'S THE 10 FOOT SIDE.
I WANT THE CORNERS IT'S CARRIED BY MY SCREENING ISSUE ON THAT DIRECTION, BUT THE DIRECTIONAL STRAIGHT OUT AND COMING FROM THE EAST, I ACTUALLY THINK, YEAH, WHAT'S PROPOSED THERE NOW.
UM, JUST, JUST, JUST, JUST DISRUPTS.
RIGHT? CAUSE YOU DO HAVE THE, THE GREEN AS YOU COME FROM THE WEST, I TOLD YOU, I GET LOST EVERY TIME I TELL YOU TO GO PRAY.
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THAT I WOULD FEEL THAT THE ORIENTATION THERE WOULD BE IN THE RHYTHMIC PATTERN OF REPEATING THE FIRST TWO, NOT TO TRY TO HIT AN ANGLE AND NOT TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE THE SCREEN, BUT TO GET VERY DELIRIOUS ON THE STREET.AND THAT THAT'S THE PATTERN THAT'S BEING ESTABLISHED.
AND THAT'S THAT I THINK IS WHAT THE BUILDING ORIENTATION IN A WAY THAT IT'S POSITIVE, EVEN THOUGH IT BRINGS DATE OR STACEY TOWARD THE STREET, I DO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD SOFTEN THE ARCHITECTURAL APPEARANCE BY HAVING SOME, SOME VARIATION AT THE SIDE GLASS WORK, SOFTENED FIRST THING I READ AND A COUNTY PROCESS REQUIRES A DOOR'S NOT INTO THE STREET.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING WE DID THAT.
AND THE SECOND THING IS PEDESTRIAN.
OBVIOUSLY THE QUESTION OF, WILL THERE BE ANY PEDESTRIAN TO GET THERE, BUT THE EMPLOYEES LIKE THE PEDESTRIAN WALKING IN THE STREET SEEMED TO ME FOR A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA CONCRETE SITE.
THE OTHER THING IS ORIENTATION COULD HAVE BEEN, UM, SO SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK I HEARD RAY SAY AT THE OUTSET THAT THE PARKING WHILE IT WAS IN OUR PACKAGE, IT'S NO LONGER BEFORE US BECAUSE OF THE CHANGE.
SO WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT IS SOLELY THE ORIENTATION AT THE MOMENT.
WELL, ISSUES OF SIDEWALK LIKE WIND THEIR WAY BACK TO YOU NEVER KNOW.
UM, BUT THE ISSUE FOR YOU IS AS THE DATA ORIENTATION AND THE ALTERNATIVE, UM, PROPOSE, UH, OR, OR DO YOU FEEL THAT EXCEPTION CAN BE MITIGATED? OKAY.
AND BASED ON YOUR CONVERSATION, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE EACH OF THESE THREE FEET HEIGHTS, RAISE THEM UP AND THEN ADD THE THIRD, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT MR. PHILOSOPHY WAS REQUESTING.
I GUESS THE QUESTION WAS, UM, MY QUESTION, UH, NOT AT AN ANGLE STRAIGHT OR THIS.
WE HAVE A GRADING PLAN IN THERE AND THERE ARE SOME GRADES, SO MAYBE WORK DURING THE INTERVIEW TO MAKE IT FEEL AS COHESIVE AS POSSIBLE.
BUT I BELIEVE THE SITE FEATURES SHOULD HAVE ORIENT TO BROAD STREET ROAD, WHICH HAD THEIR CLOSEST TO YES.
MORE THAN TRYING TO HUG UP FOR.
I THINK THAT MAKES, THAT MAKES SENSE.
DO WE WANT TO TRY TO FRAME A MOTION? CAN I INTERVENE JUST FOR A SECOND? I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING THERE WASN'T DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, SCREENING OF THE BAY DOORS.
AND I DON'T KNOW, UH, HOW THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED.
IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO PURSUE OR IF IT'S OFF THE TABLE, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I THINK THAT WAS YOUR ISSUE, MR. GILLESPIE, CERTAINLY HAPPY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S OPERATIONAL CONCERN WITH, UM, THE ELEVATIONS.
IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, I THINK FROM THIS ELEVATION, WHAT THAT, UH, THAT LITTLE FARMING IS ON THE SIDE I FOUND OUT.
SO JUST ROUGH SCALING IN FRONT OF YOUR LARGER ON ISN'T THAT PROJECTED.
SO I GUESS THAT MEANS DOWN PROBABLY I WOULD GUESS YOUR HANDS.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOUR INSURANCE SHOULD HAVE A MAIN AWNING.
THAT'S A LITTLE MORE PROMINENT AND YOUR SECONDARY OPERATIONALLY REJECTED PROPERLY.
THEN YOU HAVE TWO BRACKETS AND IT OPENS UP AND IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH IT AT ALL.
I THINK THAT THE, IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE, WHERE IT DROPS DOWN, HIT DOWN.
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WHAT I'M SAYING IS YOU GET PROJECTED BEYOND THE PLAIN OF THE WALL, THE BAY DOOR ROLLS UP INTO THE STATES, SO IT SHOULD NOT INTERFERE WITH THE OPERATION.UNLESS YOU HAVE A 10 PLUS YOU REALLY NEED FOR THE CUSTOMER DRIVES IN TO GET OUT OF HIS CAR AND GO IN THE OFFICE IN THE MORNING OR SOMETHING OR PAY THE BILL OR SOMETHING.
I DON'T CUSTOMER SAFE IN THE CAR FULL TIME.
W THEY, THEY HAVE THE COMPUTER SET UP AND SPIN IT AROUND.
OF COURSE, IT'S MADE THE COMPUTER SWINGS AROUND AS, DOES THE PAY POINT REACH OUT TO YOUR CAR AND YOU SLIDE IT IN, CUSTOMIZED IT FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THERE'S ANYBODY WALKING AROUND OR ANYTHING IN THEORY, IT CERTAINLY IS NOT HAVING EVER, UM, SO AT MY CONVERSATION, I SEEM TO RECALL SOMETHING VERY FUN WAY THAT WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH A DEALERSHIP, THERE WASN'T ANY ISSUE WITH TRYING TO BREAK UP THE FACADE VISUAL.
AND IT WAS A, WAS ORIENTED DIFFERENT, BUT WE HAD THE SORT OF SAME SORT OF BABY OR ISSUE.
AND I DON'T RECALL WHAT WE DID IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
AND WE'VE PUT A BAND AT THE BOTTOM AND WE USE THE DOORS OR USE THE BRICK WALLS.
SO, UM, THE, AGAIN, SIMILAR, UH, AND THE ISSUE, THE ISSUE, THERE WAS A FORM COMPOSITION OF MATERIAL.
WHEREAS HERE YOU'VE GOT THE BAND AND COLOR ON THE BOTTOM THAT BRINGS UP THE FACADE.
BUT IT DOES THAT, THAT DOES IT BREAK UP TWO TIMES EXCEPT FOR THE DOORS, RIGHT.
AND THE DOORS WITH THE AUDI DUMP THEIR GLASS ALL THE WAY UP AND DOWN AS WELL.
BUT THAT WAS THE YEAR, CORRECT? THAT WAS THE, BECAUSE THAT, THAT SPANS, THAT BUILDING WAS ALL ONE MATERIAL.
AND SO THAT GOT BROKEN UP, WHICH IS REFLECTED ALREADY IN THIS UH, I MEAN, THERE'S A SOLID POINT RELATIONSHIP ESTABLISHED WITH THE WATER TABLE FIELD.
THE HEAD HEIGHT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, IS A VISUAL HEAD HEIGHT AS WELL AS A BUFFALO.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHAT SORT OF PROJECTION ALLOWS YOU TO DRAW YOUR EYES DOWN? JUST LIKE THE GROUND WATER TABLE IS DRAWING YOUR EYES DOWN A LITTLE BIT AGAIN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE TRYING TO BOTH SCREEN AND SOFTEN.
AND SO THE ORIENTATION IS OUR FIRST THING.
AND SO WE KIND OF PASS THROUGH THE, YOU KNOW, THE EXERCISE WHERE SIGHTED AND ORIENTED, WE'RE LOOKING AT VISIBILITY, THE INSIGHT.
AND THEN WE STILL KNOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OBJECTS AND THE BAGEL WARS.
THEN THE GOAL IS SOMETHING THAT IS TREATED WITH SENSITIVITY FEATURE, TRY TO MINIMIZE IT WITH.
AND I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST GOING BACK TO THE LANDSCAPING PIECE, WE DO HAVE THOSE THREE LARGE TREES IN THE FRONT.
SO FROM A VISIBILITY STANDPOINT, WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT DIFFERENTIATION OF THE MATERIALS OF THE, OF THE BOTTOM OF THE WATER TABLE BEING DIFFERENT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, THE LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD MEAN THE VISUAL COMING IN.
SO, UM, HOPEFULLY THAT TOGETHER WITH THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT IN THE WALLS, THE WALL WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO MITIGATE.
I THINK THAT ADDING THINGS TO THE TOP OF THE BAY DOORS, NOT AN EXPERT, BUT I DO KNOW THAT ANYBODY THAT I'VE WORKED WITH THE HUSBAND OR IS THAT IT'S NEVER ANYTHING TO ADD TO THE TOP OF THE DOORS, JUST FROM A CLEARANCE STANDPOINT,
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ADDRESS OR ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT, I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS BUILDING IN 25 YEARS AND WHERE ITS POTENTIAL USE MIGHT BE DURING THAT TIME, SOME RELIEF AND SOME VARIETY IN SOME POTENTIAL FEATURES, MAKE IT A MORE REASONABLE.WELL, I WILL SAY IT IS NOT BUILDING THEM.
IT NEEDS TO BE RECONFIGURED, SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A VALVOLINE.
SO THEN IT WOULD BE BACK BEFORE YOU, IF IT WERE NOT COMPLIANT WITH THE OVERLAY DISTRICT ITSELF.
SO I THINK THAT IS AT LEAST ONE PIECE TO ACT WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSED.
THIS IS PROBABLY THE OVERSEEING WITH RESPECT TO THE SUGGESTION THAT RAISING THE HEIGHT TWO TO THREE FEET, PUTTING, ADDING THAT EXTRA THIRD SCREENING WALL ORIENTATION, PERHAPS BE DETERMINED MORE PRECISELY AS THE PROCEEDING WOULD DEVELOP EITHER SATISFIED WITH SUFFICIENT QUESTION OR CONCERN SCREENING
ANYBODY LOOKED AT WHAT REALLY COULD BE DONE IF YOU DID ROTATE, BUT HAS TO BE FELT MAYBE SOME STEPS, SOME STUDIES MIGHT'VE BEEN DONE, LOOK AT WHAT CAN BE DONE.
I DON'T SEE A TWO WAY STREET SIDE MIGHT HAVE TO COME IN ONCE A WEEK AND PICK UP SOMETHING.
BUT THAT CONCERN THAT MAYBE SOME EMPLOYEES, MR. ROYER, CHAIRMAN CONNECTICUT, OR PET SITE PLAN REVIEW, WE DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS WHERE SIDEWALKS JUST DARK AND WE PROBABLY REQUIRE SOME SORT OF WALKWAY OR SOMETHING THAT CROSSES SOME DIRECTIONAL AT THAT POINT.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED NOW.
UM, BUT THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE TYPICALLY ARE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT PLAN OF.
I HAVE A FEELING THAT STAFF DOESN'T KNOW IF STAFF IS NOT SATISFIED WITH THE SIDEWALK ISSUE, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR IT AGAIN.
SO IF STAFF IS NOT SATISFIED, THEN, UH, WE HAVE, WELL, LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY.
BOTH OF YOU ARE EITHER OF YOU AT A POINT WHERE, SO I WOULD SAY FROM MY STAND I'M AT A POINT WHERE I THINK IT MIGHT TO BRING A MOTION, I CAN GET COMFORTABLE WITH THE ORIENTATION AS PROPOSED WITH SOME ADDITIONAL STIPULATIONS, WITH RESPECT TO SCREENING, AS WE DISCUSSED, MEANING RAISING THE TWO EXISTING PROPOSED WALLS, TWO TO THREE FEET FROM THE EXISTING PROMOTERS AND ADDING THE THIRD WALL ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
CHECKING ON THAT IN THIS MOMENT WITH THE ORIENTATION OF THAT WALL SPECIFICALLY, IN TERMS OF WHETHER IT'S STRAIGHT OR CURVED OR HOW ITS SPECIFIC ORIENTATION WILL BE DETERMINED, WHETHER DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, I WOULD SUGGEST TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO SEE IF YOU COULD ARRIVE AT AN APPROVAL OF THE PLAN, THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS SURE.
AND DONE THE WALLS FOR TOMMY'S FIELD'S DONE.
I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE MATERIAL WAS.
I KNOW IT IS CONSISTENT WITH BOTH WITH FOUR REIGNS.
AND SO THERE WAS AN IDENTIFIABLE TYPE MATERIAL.
I DON'T REMEMBER IF WE IDENTIFIED WHAT IT WAS.
I LOOKED BACK AT LAST WEEK AND I DIDN'T SEE THAT WE IDENTIFIED THEM OTHER THAN TO SAY THEY WERE
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IN THE, UM, IN THE, UH, ACTUAL APPROVAL FOR TOMMY'S.UM, IT DOES REFERENCE IT IN A LETTER, THE, UM, A GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS THE SAME MATERIALS AS THE, UM, OR SHOWS LIKE A PICTURE OF THAT, WHICH IS ON FOUR RINGS.
AND I THINK WE NOTED THAT ON THE PLAN.
I THINK I OCCUR WITH MY ASSOCIATES ON THE MINI HERE AND I WOULD BE PREPARED TO MAKE A MOTION.
DO WE WANT TO LET YOU MAKE THAT MOTION? DID I EFFECTIVELY SOMEWHAT DO THAT? AND THEN IF I'M SUSPECTING, YOU MAY HAVE TAKEN SOME NOTES.
IF YOU HAVE THAT, MAYBE YOU REPEAT IT BACK, MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT IT RIGHT.
AND THEN I'LL ASK MR. GILLESPIE OR MR. OR HER, IF THEY WANT TO SAY, RATHER THAN PUT YOU IN JORDAN, WHAT? I JUST DID THAT.
UM, SO YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE, UM, WITH AMENDING THE CURRENT PROPOSAL OF TWO FEET TO THREE FEET TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR TOMMY'S IN TERMS OF THE WALL.
UM, IN ADDITION, ADDING A THIRD SCREENING WALL ON EASTERN PORTION WITH ORIENTATION TO BE DETERMINED AS FURTHER OR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS.
AND YOU ARE, YOU CAN, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROPOSED ORIENTATION OF THE BAIT DOORS, WHICH INCLUDES THE OTHER LANDSCAPING FEATURES FOR SCREENING AS IDENTIFIED.
AND THE ONE CHANGE I MADE TO WHAT YOU SAID IS WHEN YOU SAID THE ADDITIONAL WALL, I WOULD NOTE IT AS AN ADDITIONAL THREE, FOUR, AND I'VE WRITTEN DOWN WITH FOCUS ON
WE TAKE, UH, WHAT HAS BEEN ARTICULATED AS HAVING A MOTION, HAVING BEEN MADE TO WE HAVE A SECOND.
SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE COMPLETE WITH YOUR NOTES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH US.
[C. APPROVAL OF MINUTES – May 17, 2021]
ONE SECOND.WE'RE GOING TO FINISH ONE ORDER OF BUSINESS, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
SO, UH, OUR REMAINING ITEM OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FOR MAY 17TH.
THEY WERE ATTACHED TO OUR AGENDA PACKETS.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ISSUE OF WHETHER THERE'S MODIFICATION OR OTHERWISE WITH RESPECT TO THE MINUTES? UM, DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE A SECOND? OKAY.