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WHAT'S THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME? GOOD AFTERNOON.
WE, WE WILL GET STARTED HERE FOR, WITH OUR OCTOBER REGULAR MEETING TO USE THE OCTOBER 5TH 2:00 PM SESSION.
[I. Call to Order]
TO START OUT WITH, BUT WE WILL FOLLOW THE USUAL ORDER.I'M CALLING THIS TO ORDER AND THEN WE WILL HAVE, UH, WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE, UH, PASTOR GREG NORWOOD FROM CONNECTING POINT CHURCH HERE WITH US THIS AFTERNOON TO START US OFF WITH AN INVOCATION.
OH, WHEN PASTOR NORWOOD HAS DONE A WHEEL, PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AND WE WILL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY SUPERVISOR PETERSON.
AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE AGENDA.
[II. Invocation]
OF LEADING US THIS AFTERNOON, FATHER GOD, I THANK YOU FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT YOU HAVE CALLED THROUGH THE PEOPLE OF GOD TO LEAD THIS GREAT COUNTY.AND I JUST PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM AND GUIDANCE AND UNDERSTANDING AS THEY MAKE THEIR DECISIONS.
AS THEY CHART A COURSE IN A DIRECTION FOR THE GOOD PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY, BLESS THE WORK OF THEIR HANDS.
LORD BLESS THE WORK OF THEIR HANDS IN YOUR NAME.
WE PRAY AMEN TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[III. Pledge of Allegiance]
WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION THAT, UM, MS.AND THEN I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME FOLKS HERE THAT WILL COME UP AND WE'LL DO A QUICK PRESENTATION
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OF A FRAMED COPY[IV. Presentation of Proclamation Recognizing October as Domestic Violence Awareness]
OF THE RESOLUTION.WHEREAS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS IF IN COERCIVE BEHAVIORS USED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL INTENDED TO EXERT POWER AND CONTROL OVER ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL IN THE CONTEXT OF AN INTIMATE OR FAMILY RELATIONSHIP.
AND WHEREAS ABUSIVE BEHAVIORS MAY INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO PHYSICAL ASSAULTS, VERBAL ASSAULTS, THREATS, INTIMIDATION, EMOTIONAL ABUSE, USE OF WEAPONS, DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY VIOLENCE TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE OR PETS, SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND CONTROL OVER ECONOMIC RESOURCES.
AND WHEREAS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS AN INTOLERABLE VIOLENT CRIME WITH PUBLIC HEALTH IMPLICATIONS FOR EVERY PERSON IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY, WHETHER A VICTIM SURVIVOR, A FAMILY MEMBERS, SIGNIFICANT OTHER NEIGHBOR, EMPLOYER, OR OF A VICTIM SURVIVOR.
AND WHEREAS NO ONE PERSON ORGANIZATION, AGENCY OR COMMUNITY CAN ELIMINATE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ON THEIR OWN.
WE MUST WORK TOGETHER TO EDUCATE OUR ENTIRE POPULATION ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PREVENT SUCH VIOLENCE, SUPPORT VICTIMS SURVIVORS AND THEIR FAMILIES, AND INCREASE SUPPORT FOR AGENCIES PROVIDING SERVICES TO THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND WHEREAS GOOCHLAND CARE IS A COMPREHENSIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAM PROVIDED 84 SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN 2020 BY PROVIDING 24 HOUR HOTLINE SERVICES, FACILITATING SAFETY PLANS, PROVIDING SHELTER SERVICES, OFFERING SUPPORT AND INFORMATION, PROVIDING CASE MANAGEMENT AND COUNSELING ADVOCATING FOR VICTIMS, SURVIVORS SEEKING PROTECTIVE ORDERS, EMPOWERING SURVIVORS TO CHART THEIR OWN COURSE FOR HEALING AND FACILITATING EDUCATIONAL TRAININGS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS. AND WHEREAS ENDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY INVOLVES ACTIVE COLLABORATION BETWEEN GOOCHLAND CARES, GOOCHLAND COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, GOOCHLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE GOOCHLAND VICTIM WITNESS PROGRAM, THE 16TH DISTRICT JUVENILE AND DOMESTIC RELATIONS COURT SERVICES, UNIT GOOCHLAND DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES AND OTHER REGIONAL PARTNERS.
NOW THEREFORE WE, THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS READ AND PRESENTED MS. CHAIRMAN? I MOVE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING OCTOBER IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.
AND IF, UH, GOODSON CARES REPRESENTATIVE COME ON UP HERE.
JUST, JUST TO SAY THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS.
THIS IS A PERVASIVE PROBLEM AND OUR COMMUNITY.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR INCOME IS, IT'S EVERYWHERE.
AND I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE THANKED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, THE, UM, GOODSON, UM, COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY AND, UM, FIRE AND RESCUE.
UM, BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES TAKE A VILLAGE AND WITHOUT ALL OF THE COOPERATION WE HAVE WITH THOSE AGENCIES AND OTHERS, WE COULD NOT DO THE WORK WE'RE DOING.
THANK YOU, THE SYSTEM AND THE VICTIM WITNESS AND LOTS OF PLACES, BUT YOU ALL ARE.
THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE EXCEPT THIS, UM, YOU ALL ARE REALLY LEADING THIS AND YOU'VE DONE A LOT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS AS YOU ENHANCED THE SERVICES.
SO WHOEVER WANTS TO HOLD THIS AND WE'LL GET UP
LAST MONTH, SEPTEMBER, WE HAD A GOOD MEETING.
UH, WE TRIED TO PACK IT IN, IN TWO HOURS AND THERE WAS,
[V. Chair's Comments]
WE WENT A LITTLE OVER, BUT THERE WAS A LOT TO TALK ABOUT WITH OUR LEGISLATORS.UM, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS WERE THERE.
WE HAD A GOOD MEETING AT THE RESIDENCE IN, UM, IN GOOCHLAND EASTERN END OF GOOCHLAND, UH,
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COVERED A LOT.UM, UH, WE APPRECIATE SENATOR PEAK AND OUR DELEGATES MARY MCGUIRE AND LEE WERE, UH, FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT OF THEIR BUSY SCHEDULE TO SPEAK WITH US AND VERY PRODUCTIVE SESSION THAT WAS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND I THINK, UM, SOME NEWS GOT OUT ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE DISCUSSED THERE.
UM, THEY'RE GEARING UP OF COURSE, FOR THE ELECTION AND THEN, UH, GENERAL ASSEMBLY SESSION COMING UP, UM, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE SCHOOL BOARD, UM, AS WE HAVE BEEN DOING, WHAT FOR 10 MORE THAN 10 YEARS NOW, TOWN TOWN HALL MEETINGS IN THE SPRING AND THE FALL.
UM, WE HAVE THEM COMING UP THIS MONTH.
WE'RE BREAKING THEM INTO TWO, THE WESTERN PART DISTRICTS, ONE, TWO AND THREE AT CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 14TH AT 6:30 PM.
UH, AND ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO COME OUT.
THAT'S A CHANCE TO, YOU KNOW, IN AN INFORMAL SETTING, UH, HEAR FROM HEAR FROM YOUR SCHOOL, SCHOOL LEADERS, SCHOOL BOARD, AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND OUR INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND STAFF WITH UPDATES.
AND THEN THEY DO FIVE DAYS LATER ON OCTOBER 19TH AT SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH WILL BE FOR DISTRICT FOUR AND FIVE.
AND I KNOW MR. ALVAREZ, YOU HAVE A FEW THINGS ON YOUR LIST.
I HAVE, UH, QUITE A FEW THINGS.
UM, UH, THE FIRST ONE I WAS GOING TO, I WAS HOPING TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT TODAY THAT MY NIECE HAD A BABY AND THEY WERE GOING TO NAME HIM MANWELL, BUT THEY DIDN'T TELL
[VI. County Administrator's Comments]
ME THERE WAS GOING TO BE A GIRL.SO I WILL NOT ANNOUNCE THAT STERLING MADDIX WHITE'S CARVER WAS BORN ON SUNDAY.
UM, SO, UH, I WANT TO START BY ASKING YOU TO JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING GARY FISHER OR BUILDING.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE CAME IN, HE WAS JUST APPOINTED TO THE INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL, SOMEBODY FROM GOOCHLAND APPOINTED TO AN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION, UH, HE'S APPOINTED TO THE EVALUATION SERVICE COMMITTEE.
THIS GROUP CELEBRATES NEW PRODUCTS AND TECHNOLOGIES, NOT CURRENTLY IN THE COATS AND ISSUES, JUDGMENTS ON THEIR ABILITY TO PERFORM AS MANUFACTURED UNDER THE APPLICATION THEY WERE DESIGNED FOR.
UH, THE APPOINTMENT SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR GARY'S EXPERTISE AND OUR COMMITMENT TO OUR EMPLOYEES, GROWTH INTO LEADERS AT THE STATE NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL LEVEL.
UH, GARY'S LIFETIME OF WORK IN THE CODES AND STANDARDS PREPARED HIM FOR THIS ROLE.
AND LATELY HE'S BEEN VERY BUSY, SO HE'S GETTING A LOT OF PREPARATION.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO GARY AND HIS DEPARTMENT FOR THE GREAT WORK THEY DO, UH, WHICH HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED BY, UH, BEYOND OUR BORDERS.
UM, THEN I LIKE TO LET EVERYONE KNOW IN SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE FRONT MIGHT BE INTERESTED ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 28TH, WE WILL BE HOSTING TRICK-OR-TREATERS HERE IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FROM THREE 30 TO FOUR 30.
SO WEAR A COSTUME AND COME MEET OUR STAFF AND SAFELY TRICK OR TREAT FROM DOOR TO DOOR.
I THINK ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE AGREED TO PARTICIPATE THIS SATURDAY.
UM, IT'S PART OF THE CELEBRATION FOR HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.
THE PARKS AND REC IS HOSTING THE LATIN VALLEY OF VIRGINIA AT CENTRAL AT THE CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL, UH, EAGLE THEATER.
IT'S $10 ADMISSION AND IT STARTS, THE SHOW STARTS AT 6:00 PM IS NOT A VERY LONG ROUTINE.
SO IF YOU'RE THERE BY 6 45, IT'S TOO LATE, UH, IT'S FROM SIX TO 6 45, UH, ON, ON OCTOBER 30TH CUSHLON COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION IS HOSTING THE ANNUAL FALL FESTIVAL FROM NOON TO 4:00 PM.
UH, HERE AT THE SPORTS COMPLEX, THERE WILL BE LIVE MUSIC, PONY RIDES, PETTING ZOO, A KID'S COSTUME CONTEST, FOOD TRUCKS, AND AN APP APPLE PIE CONTEST.
AND OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, THERE, UH, SO COME MEET OUR DEPUTIES AND FIREMEN AS WELL.
UH, BLAIR'S WEST, UH, COUNTRY MUSIC, UH, DO WAS GOING TO BE PERFORMING.
IF YOU CAN BAKE AN APPLE PIE, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO ENTER THE MORE THE MERRIER I'M ON ONE OF THE JUDGES.
I LIKE TO TASTE AS MANY AS I CAN.
AND I'LL PROMISE I'LL BE FAIR.
UH, NONE OF US ON THE, ON THE JOB OF THE JUDGES, UM, HAVE EVER MET A PALATE.
WE DIDN'T LIKE, SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO OFFEND YOU WITH OUR REVIEW.
SO, UM, UH, THEN THERE'S, UH, THERE'S STILL TIME TO SIGN UP IF YOU'RE IN A, IF YOU HAVE, UM, INTO ARTS OR A CRAFT VENDOR, UH, YOU CAN SIGN UP AND, UM, GET A COMMUNITY BOOTH.
AND OF COURSE YOU CAN STILL VOLUNTEER SIGN UP TO VOLUNTEER IF YOU GO TO OUR WEBPAGE AND IF YOU VOLUNTEER, YOU GET A FREE T-SHIRT.
UM, SO JUST GO TO A PARKS AND REC WEBSITE AND FOLLOW THE, THE LINKS
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TO GET TO THE, UH, APPLICATION LAST BUT NOT LEAST WHILE YOU'RE HERE, UH, ENJOYING THE FESTIVAL, GO BY THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE AND, UH, REGISTERED TO VOTE VOTING STARTED ON THE 17TH.AND SO IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY WHILE YOU'RE THERE TO JUST GO IN AND TAKE YOUR TURN AND VOTE.
UH, AND THERE'LL BE OPEN FROM NINE TO FIVE ON THE 30TH.
I THINK ABOUT 1700 PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY VOTED, UH, ABSENTEE ABOUT EARLY, EARLY, UM, 700 OR SO, UH, BY MAIL AND ABOUT A THOUSAND IN PERSON RIGHT HERE IN THE, UH, IN OUR, UM, PARKS AND REC BUILDING.
UM, THERE WILL ALSO BE OPPORTUNITIES TO VOTE, UH, ON THE 23RD.
THAT WAS THE 23RD OF OCTOBER, SORRY, AND THE 30TH.
AND THEN ON SUNDAY, THE 24TH FROM 12 TO 4:00 PM, UH, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO VOTE AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT'S IT WITH JEREMY.
THANK YOU, UNCLE ALVAREZ 20TH.
UH, SO IS THERE A REQUEST BOARD MEMBERS OR STAFF FOR ANY, UH, POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES
[VII. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the]
NOT SEEING ANY, WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA AS IT IS SET BEFORE US NEXT IS, UH, AND GUCCI AND ELEMENTARY STUDENTS WHERE Y'ALL ARE REAL CLOSE.UM, JUST HAVE A FEW MORE THINGS, AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU ALL CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR FOLKS THAT WISH TO SPEAK TO US, TO COME FORWARD ABOUT ANYTHING GERMANE TO GOOCHLAND
[VIII. Citizen Comment]
COUNTY THAT YOU WANT TO BRING TO OUR ATTENTION, UH, COME FORWARD AND TO THE PODIUM HERE.AND, UH, PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
THE LIGHT WILL TURN GREEN WHEN THE TIMER STARTS, IT'LL BE YELLOW WHEN YOU HAVE A MINUTE LEFT AND RED WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, BUT PLEASE COME FORWARD, INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
AND WE'RE GLAD TO HEAR FROM YOU.
YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT TO EXPERIENCE, OR I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT IT EITHER WAY.
UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME FOLKS HERE FOR GOOCHLAND DAY PARADE.
YOU'RE FREE TO COME ON UP NOW OR WHENEVER THERE'S A BREAK
[1. Report out on Goochland Day Parade & Festival of Saturday, September 25th]
OH, THE BOTTOM ALL THE WAY AT THE BOTTOM.I CAN JUST FLIP THROUGH THAT HONKING.
HERE'S THE ONE I THINK YOU ON ONE SIDE AND THAT CAN BE ON THE OTHER, THANK YOU ALL FOR MEETING WITH US TODAY.
HOPE YOU WERE ABLE TO COME TO GOOCHLAND DAY.
UM, WE HAD GOOCHLAND DAY ON SEPTEMBER 25TH AND, UM, WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU SOME STATISTICS FROM THE DAY.
UM, I'M CARRIE STAG, PRESIDENT OF GOOCHLAND DAY FOUNDATION.
ELIZABETH NELSON LEIDA IS OUR TREASURER AND ANNETTE JONES IS OUR PARADE CHAIR AND OUR VICE PRESIDENT.
UM, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERN, GIVE THEM TO A NET.
UM, WE'VE, UH, I WANTED TO BRING UP THE SLIDE BECAUSE, UM, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, VISION AND MISSION IS SIMILAR TO OURS.
UM, WE STRIVE TO HAVE GOOCHLAND DAY.
WE, UM, WE STARTED, WELL, MY NEXT SLIDE, BUT I'VE LISTED ALL OF OUR MEMBERS OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS, UM, THAT IT TAKES A LARGE TEAM TO GET SOMETHING LIKE THIS ACCOMPLISHED.
THE THREE OF YOU THAT YOU SEE HERE TODAY ARE, UM, I THINK THE CHAMBER ALSO CAN FEEL IT WHERE IT KIND OF DWINDLES DOWN WITH PARTICIPATION.
UM, BUT I THINK THE LAST SATURDAY'S EVENT, UM, IF YOU WERE ABLE TO, TO GO OR IF YOU'VE RECEIVED ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK, UM, YOU'LL KNOW THAT IT WAS TRULY A SUCCESS.
UM, AND I THINK ALL THE PARADE, ESPECIALLY, I THINK WE ALL THE WHOLE ENTIRE COMMUNITY NEEDED THE PARADE, UM, ESPECIALLY AFTER ALL OF THE COVID.
SO, UM, SO HERE'S OUR TIMELINE
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WHEN I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT AND GET SOME FINAL NUMBERS ON, UM, GOOCHLAND DAY ORIGINALLY HAPPENED IN 1950S BECAUSE AS ELIZABETH WAS FINDING OUT, WE'RE DOING SOME RESEARCH, WE'VE GOT SOME LINKS AT THE BOTTOM, UM, BUT TYING IT ALL TOGETHER, THERE WAS A DOVER BAPTIST CHURCH THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF FERGUSON CAN ADD IN TO ANY OF THIS HISTORY, BUT THERE WAS A DOVER BAPTIST CHURCH, UM, BURNED DOWN.AND SO THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT, THEY ENGAGED A GOOCHLAND DAY TO RAISE MONEY, TO BUY OUR FIRETRUCK, UM, THEN FASCINATING HISTORY.
THAT'S WHY GOOCHLAND THEY STARTED WAS TO RAISE MONEY FOR A FIRETRUCK.
SO THEN SOMETIME, UM, I'VE TALKED TO THE CHAMBER, SHE SAID THAT SHE MOVED HERE IN THE SEVENTIES AND THEY WERE STILL HAVING GOOCHLAND DAY THEN.
UM, AND THEN THE CHAMBER, I THINK, TOOK IT OVER.
AND THE LAST ONE THAT I CAN REMEMBER, IT WAS EITHER 95 OR 96 THAT WE LAST HAD A GOOCHLAND DAY, WHICH WOULD BE 28 YEARS AGO, ROUGHLY, MAYBE I SAID 93, BUT ANYWAY, A LONG TIME, OVER 25 YEARS.
UM, SO TO BREATHABLE, TO, FOR ELIZABETH TO BRING, UM, BRING IT OUT FROM THE PTSA.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE EXPANDED INTO OUR ACTUAL FOUNDATION AND TO 2020, UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER GOOCHLAND DAY ON MAY 7TH.
SO WE'RE GEARING, GEARING UP FOR THAT.
AND WE'LL SHARE SOME OF OUR THOUGHTS AND HOPES AND DREAMS FOR THAT.
UM, ALSO THERE'S A TRICENTENNIAL CELEBRATION IN 2028.
SO OUR 300 YEARS SINCE GOOCHLAND COUNTY WAS FOUNDED, UM, WE DON'T KNOW HOW BIG IT'S GOING TO BE THEN, BUT WE'RE TAKING IDEAS.
UM, WE MIGHT HAVE A NEW ROAD IN GOOCHLAND BY THAT TIME.
SO, UM, THERE'S THAT? SO WE'VE INCLUDED SOME OF OUR PICTURES FROM GOOCHLAND DAY.
IF YOU WEREN'T HERE, YOU CAN ALSO FIND IT ON GOOCHLAND DAY.COM OR FACEBOOK PAGE.
UM, BUT THE PARADE STATISTICS, THIS IS A NETS AREA AND SHE SAYS, SHE'S NOT GOING TO DOCK AT A TALK CAUSE SHE'LL CRY.
UM, BUT SO I, I PUT IN THE FRACTION OF ONE 16TH, SO WE HAVE 16 BOARD MEMBERS.
IT TOOK ONE TO ACTUALLY DO THE PARADE AND IT'S, IT'S ALL ON HER, UH, CAN SAY.
UM, SO SHE, SHE ACTUALLY DID MORE THAN JUST THE PARADE.
SHE DID OUR SHIRTS AND, UM, THE BUS DRIVERS AND SHE MANAGED IT ALL.
UM, AND EVEN SOME OF OUR BANNERS.
SO IT'S A ONE-STOP SHOP WITH A NET.
IF Y'ALL ARE LOOKING FOR ANYBODY SHE'S BUSY.
UM, ATTENDANCE FOR THE PARADE IS WE ESTIMATE WE CALCULATED CLICKERS 27 SOMETHING.
UM, THE VOLUNTEERS, LIKE I SAID, IT WAS ONE OR TWO.
SHE ACTUALLY HAD HER DAUGHTER RECRUITED, MANAGING THE SECOND, UM, SECOND ENTRYWAY OF THE PARADE.
UM, THE OFFICERS ONSITE, WE HAD FIVE, THE LENGTH OF THE PARADE WAS ONLY A 0.6 OF A MILE.
SO IT WAS VERY, VERY SHORT, BUT VERY, VERY PACKED WITH 45 UNITS.
UM, WE HAD NONPROFIT UNITS AND FOR-PROFIT UNITS.
UM, THE WEBSITE HITS WERE ABOUT 1900 AND THE SOCIAL MEDIA INTEREST WAS 7,000 AND OUR GRAND MARSHALL WAS STEVEN CREASY.
AND I THINK FERGUSON WAS DRIVING WITH THEM TOO IN THE SAME VEHICLE.
AND NEXT TIME I TOLD THEM THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WALK AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, PASS OUT CANDY OR SOMETHING.
UM, GOING OVER TO THE FESTIVAL.
UM, WE LEARNED THAT WE ESTIMATED OUR PARADE TIME.
IT KIND OF ENDED AT 10 30 AND OUR PRO FESTIVALS STARTED 11, 11 TO FOUR.
UM, WITH THE BOARD THERE'S EIGHT OUT OF 16 OF US, UM, THAT REALLY WERE SUBSTANTIAL WITH MUSIC AND ENTERTAINMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, ATTENDANCE WAS AROUND 8,000.
WE, UM, TALKED TO PARKS AND REC AND WE ALSO TALKED TO TROY, OUR LIAISON FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UM, AND HE SAYS ABOUT 8,006 TO 8,000.
ELIZABETH IS LIKE, I THINK IT'S 10, BUT YOU KNOW, I DO.
I MEAN RIGHT IN THAT OCCURRENCE.
UM, AND PLUS THE PER HOUR, WHICH DOES GO DOWN HOUR OVER HOUR, DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT YOU HAD A HUGE SURGE OF PEOPLE.
AND WE HAD PEOPLE ACROSS THE FIELD TELLING US IT LOOKED LIKE A WAVE AND TEARING THE FOOTBALL STADIUM, WHICH PEOPLE AFTER THE PARADE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CALCULATE HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE COMING IN.
WE DID HAVE PEOPLE WITH CLICKERS, BUT YOU CAN ONLY CLICK SO FAST.
AND I KNOW PEOPLE LEFT AND CAME BACK CAUSE I HAD A FEW FRIENDS DID THAT BECAUSE WE HAD SOME GREAT BANDS.
UM, WE HAD 19 SPONSORS, THE 19 SPONSORS DOES A LITTLE, UM, OUT OF OUR $20,000 BUDGET, 19 SPONSORS, SOME WERE IN KIND, SOME WERE ACTUAL MONETARY DONATIONS.
UM, AND THEN THE OFFICER'S LINE SITE, IT DWINDLED DOWN TO THREE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AS MUCH TRAFFIC MOVING.
UM, THE VOLUNTEERS, WE HAD 45 VOLUNTEERS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM.
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WE WERE SCRAMBLING, BUT 45 CAME AND SHOWED UP AND MADE THE DAY SUCCESSFUL.SO, UM, AND THEN WE HAD VENDORS, WE HAD NON-PROFIT VENDORS AND FOR-PROFIT VENDORS AND SOME OF OUR FOR-PROFIT VENDORS WERE EVEN POLITICIANS.
UM, SO, UM, THAT WAS NICE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A UNIFIED GOOCHLAND DAY AND WE WERE PRAYING FOR THE BEST, UM, NOTHING HAPPENS.
AND, UM, AND THEN THE MEAL, FOOD TRUCK VENDORS, WE NOTICED THAT SOME OF OUR VENDORS EVEN RAN OUT OF FOOD.
ACTUALLY TWO OF THEM RAN OUT OF FOOD, SO THAT'S SUCCESS FOR THEM.
UM, WE NEED MORE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK EVEN THOUGH WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE GREAT, WE DIDN'T REALIZE HOW GREAT IT WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE.
SO, UM, SO THE, OUR FEEDBACK, SO WE NEED A LONGER PARADE.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AN OBSTINATE DIRECTION.
I KNOW THAT A LONG TIME AGO, WHEN THE GOOCHLAND DAY WAS AT THE, UM, THE OLD COURTHOUSE AREA, IT WAS FINE TO HAVE IT FROM, UM, REYNOLDS TO THE COURTHOUSE AREA BECAUSE YOU WERE LEADING THAT WAY, BUT NOW WE'RE LEADING THE OPPOSITE WAY.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SENSE, BUT A NET WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT.
UM, ONE OF OUR ISSUES WAS ADA PARKING AND ADA ASSISTANCE BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, THE SPORTS COMPLEX IS NOT VERY ADA COMPLIANT, UM, FOR ACCESSIBILITY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET TO THE BOTTOM TO THE TOP, UM, EASILY.
SO THAT'S ONE THING, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING WITH IT, WE'RE MAKING DO.
UM, AND I KNOW WE'RE DOING IMPROVEMENTS ALL THE TIME.
UM, WE MIGHT END IT AT TWO OR THREE NEXT YEAR, BUT, UM, AND OUR NEXT SLIDE I'LL SHOW YOU WHY WE MIGHT EVEN BE EXTENDING AND IT MAY BE EVEN STARTING AT LATE.
UM, WE'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM LOUISA AND FLUVANNA AND ALL THESE OTHER DIFFERENT COUNTIES THAT DO FESTIVALS AND PARADES.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO THIS YEAR WAS OUR ROUGH DRAFT.
UM, SO BESIDES, BESIDES THAT WE NEED VOLUNTEERS AND COOLERS AND WALKIE TALKIES AND GAMES.
AND, UM, I PUT IN THESE TWO THINGS OF, UM, THEY WANTED MORE ALCOHOL OR MORE BEVERAGES.
AND, UM, THEY ALSO, ONE OF THE LOCAL RESTAURANTS IN TOWN WAS UPSET BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GO PAST THIS RESTAURANT.
SO WE, I MEAN, TAKE THE GOOD IN THE BAD, BUT IF THAT'S THE WORST THAT WE'VE HEARD, WE'LL BRING YOUR PARADE PASTURE RESTAURANT.
UM, AND WE WERE SCARED BECAUSE WE WERE LIKE, WELL, WHAT IF WE SHUT DOWN THESE BUSINESSES? AND YOU KNOW, BUT NOBODY CARED ABOUT THAT.
UM, MOVING ALONG, THIS WAS OUR TRI-FOLD BROCHURE.
IT'S GOT ALL OF OUR INFORMATION, ENDED UP THE PARADE, UM, THE MAPPING, OUR SPONSORS, WHAT ENTERTAINMENT WE HAD, WE EVEN HAD A NEWLYWED GAME.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS ENTERTAINING.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE, UM, EMAILS FROM THE CONSTITUENTS.
THEY SAID THAT THEY LOVED IT BECAUSE THEIR CHILDREN, THEIR OLDER CHILDREN AND THE ADULTS COULD KIND OF GO FROM THE TOP FIELD TO THE BOTTOM FIELD AND THEN ENTERTAIN AND EVERYTHING.
SO, UM, WE DO LOVE THE FALL FESTIVAL, BUT WE'VE, THEY FELT LIKE THE GOOCHLAND DAY WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE INCLUSIVE TO EVERYBODY.
SO FUTURE PLANS, THIS IS WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING.
UM, OUR BUDGET IS GOING TO HAVE TO INCREASE BECAUSE WE KIND OF WANT TO HAVE A CARNIVAL.
UM, WE'VE GOT, SO I'VE HEARD BULL RIDING AND DIFFERENT CARNIVAL GAMES.
AND, UM, BETWEEN THIS SLIDE AND THIS SLIDE, UM, WE CAN HIRE A COMPANY OUT OF, OUT OF NORTH CAROLINA TO COME UP AND, UM, BRING US ALL THESE GAMES FOR MAYBE 15, 15, $10,000.
SO WE DO ENDEAVOR TO KEEP THEM GOOCHLAND DAY FESTIVAL OR FREE EVENT.
UM, BUT THAT JUST, YOU KNOW, WE NEED MORE SPONSORS, UM, AND THE PARADE IS NOT CHEAP.
SO I'VE INCLUDED OUR BUDGET VERSUS ACTUAL, I WON'T BORE EVERYBODY WITH ALL THE DETAILS, BUT, UM, IT DOES TAKE ACTUAL MONEY.
SO $22,000 IS OUR ACTUAL, WHAT WE BUDGETED FOR IS 25, 24.
UM, AND ELIZABETH, IS THIS HER FORTE, I TRY NOT TO DEAL WITH ANY OF THE MONEY.
UM, BUT DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD ON THAT? SO, YEAH, IT WAS A PRETTY TIGHT BUDGET.
CARRY A FEW SLIDE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
YOU WILL SEE THAT, UM, THE NET PROFIT, WHICH IT'S NOT INTENDED TO MAKE A PROFIT AT ALL.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S A NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION IS CURRENTLY SITTING AT $1,372.
UM, WE HAVE A FEW RECONCILING ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED, BUT LET ME JUST POINT OUT TO YOU THAT WE DID A RAFFLE, UM, THAT WAS FOR $5,000 AND HAD WE NOT RAISED THAT MONEY, CARRIE AND I WERE COMMITTED TO PAYING FOR THIS OUT OF OUR POCKETS.
SO I SPENT THE LAST TWO WEEKS BEFORE GOOCHLAND DAY BEGGING PEOPLE TO BUY TICKETS.
SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT.
SO THANKFULLY THAT DID OCCUR, UM, BUT HAD THAT NOT OCCURRED.
AND THAT, THAT WAS PRETTY DICEY
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UP UNTIL THE VERY END.UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE COME OUT OF POCKET ON THAT.
UM, AND WE WERE EXTREMELY FRUGAL WITH ANYTHING THAT WE BOUGHT.
UM, WE NEGOTIATED VERY HEAVILY, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE PORT-A-POTTIES, THE PORT-A-POTTIES ACTUALLY RETAILED FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
THEN WE HAD TO ADA COMPLIANT AND FOR NON ADA COMPLIANT, PLUS TWO WASH STATIONS, UM, AND THEY SIMPLY DISCOUNTED THEM FOR US.
UM, SO ANY TIME THAT WE COULD GET A NEGOTIATION, WE DID, UM, THERE WERE THINGS THAT YOU CANNOT NEGOTIATE.
UM, WE HAD DONE WITH GOOCHLAND COUNTY PARKS AND REC.
UM, LAST YEAR WE DID A DEFERRAL EVENT, UM, WHICH WE HAD VOLUNTEERED TO DO, OF COURSE, THAT COSTS US 1,017, UM, WHICH TOOK OUT OF THE FUNDS THAT WE HAD PRE-PREPARED FOR THE EXISTING YEAR.
SO, UM, AND OF COURSE THAT WAS A WONDERFUL, THAT WAS THE DRIVE-THROUGH TRUNK OR TREAT.
WE AGREED TO GO 50 50 WITH GOOCHLAND COUNTY PARKS AND REC ON THAT.
AND WE DID, AND WE DID PROVIDE VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT EVENT LAST YEAR, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE MONEY THAT WAS INTENDED FOR THIS YEAR'S GOOCHLAND DAY.
SO, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
I THINK CARRIE'S GONNA ROLL FORWARD INTO WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND WHAT WE'VE DISCUSSED, UM, SO FAR, SO AS YOU MAY RECALL FROM THE SLIDE TWO SLIDES BACK, DON'T GO BACK, UM, THAT THE FOOTPRINT FOR THE EVENT IS, UM, PRETTY LARGE.
WE DID THAT ON PURPOSE FOR COVID, UM, SOCIAL DISTANCING TO PROVIDE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, WE DID NOT REQUIRE ANYONE TO DO ANYTHING.
WE DID HAVE THE SIGNS MADE APPROPRIATELY.
UM, YOU DID HAVE TO WEAR A MASK TO RIDE THE SCHOOL BUS.
WE MADE SURE WE HAD SIGNS FOR THAT.
WE MADE SURE THAT WAS VERY CLEAR AND WE PROVIDED, UM, 600 MASKS FOR THE BUS DRIVERS TO USE, AND THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED IN ADVANCE OF THE EVENT.
SO ALL OF THOSE TYPES OF COSTS WERE INCLUDED IN THERE.
UM, BUT THE FOOTPRINT IS PRETTY WIDE FOR ADA COMPLIANCE.
IT'S VERY HARD TO, UM, IF YOU ARE HAVING ANY MOBILITY ISSUES, ISSUES TO MOVE FROM THIS BUILDING WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW, UM, ACROSS TO NAPA FIELD.
SO IF YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT LITERALLY AT THE MOMENT, IF YOU'RE STANDING HERE AND YOU HAVE A WHEELCHAIR, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET ACROSS TO TAILORS? SO IT IS A BIT OF A STRETCH.
I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT.
UM, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAKING THE PARADE LONGER, THAT WILL COST MORE MONEY.
AND SO WE'VE DONE AN ESTIMATION.
THAT'S NOT A FIRM ESTIMATE FROM GOOCHLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
UM, WE INTEND TO HAVE THE JUDGING BOOTH AND PRIZES, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A MIDWAY AND, UM, THE CARNIVAL RIDES IS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GO FORWARD, THAT'S ABOUT IT.
I THINK YOU SUMMED IT UP, LIKE IN THAT WANTS TO INCLUDE MORE UNITS, BUT, UM, SO THAT'S ABOUT IT.
SO THE COUNTY SUPPORT FOR GOOCHLAND DAY, UM, WE SUGGEST TO MOU, UM, WE ARE CONTINUED TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE FIRE RESCUE TEAMS TO MAXIMIZE THE SAFETY AND THE TRAFFIC FLOW FOR CONSTITUENT, FOR CONSTITUENTS.
UM, AND WE'LL WORK WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION TEAM TO MAKE THE EVENT A SUCCESS TOO.
SO IT'S REALLY WHAT WE WOULD LIKE.
AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE SUPPORT THAT WE GOT FROM GOOCHLAND COUNTY.
IT WAS MAGNIFICENT PARKS AND REC KATRINA COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
REALLY THANK YOU, CHIEF FERGUSON AS WELL FOR FIRE RESCUE.
UM, AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE AND GROW IT AND, AND WE TRULY FEEL LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A PRO AN APPROPRIATE THING TO SAY, BUT I THINK WHEN WE WERE DONE WITH THE EVENT, WE THEN SPENT FOUR HOURS ON THE TELEPHONE TOGETHER CRYING, UM, BECAUSE IT WAS SO SUCCESSFUL.
UM, BUT BECAUSE THE FEEDBACK FEEDBACK WAS POURING IN SO QUICKLY, UM, OF HOW THEY NEEDED THIS EVENT, HOW THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY NEEDED THIS EVENT AND HOW OVERJOYED THEY WERE.
SO, UM, PEOPLE CAN GET PRETTY NASTY PRETTY QUICK, UM, ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED NONE OF THAT.
UM, AND, AND THAT SAYS SOMETHING TO US, RIGHT? YEP.
IT WAS JUST A PERFECT, PERFECT DAY AND ABSOLUTELY THE, UM, WE'VE INCLUDED OUR FUTURE BUDGET, UM, ESTIMATES THAT NOPE.
CAN YOU ALL SHARE THAT SLIDE A SLIDE OR A PDF WITH US OR MAKE SURE WE HAVE ACCESS TO IT.
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ALRIGHT.SO NOW, MR. WHILE YOU WERE COMING FORWARD, UM, WE'RE STILL IN, I GUESS NOW WE'RE GOING INTO CITIZEN COMMENT PERIODS.
SO COME, COME ON FORWARD, JONATHAN
UM, YOU KNOW, IN VAUDEVILLE THEY SAY NEVER FOLLOW A KIDS ACT, BUT I AM MORE THAN WILLING TO LET THE, UH, UM, I CAN'T READ THE, UH, THE MYSTERY FANTASY FICTION, GENRE, HORROR AND ROMANCE GO BEFORE MY AGRICULTURAL COMMENTS, IF THAT WOULD PLEASE THE BOARD.
WELL, UM, NO ONE'S EVER ACCUSED ME OF BEING EXCITING, BUT, UH, YOUR CALL MR. CHAIRMAN.
WELL, I'M GETTING A LOT OF LOOKS FROM UP HERE THAT LIKE, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE KIDS.
I'LL BE BACK HERE AT THE CITIZEN COMMENT.
SO COME ON, COME ON FORWARD, DR.
RILEY AND YEAH, GOOD AFTERNOON.
SORRY, MR. LEE, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, BUT GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD MEMBERS.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
AND MR. LUMPKINS, WE APPRECIATE THE INVITATION FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT INTO WHAT'S HAPPENING INSIDE OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
YOU KNOW, RECENTLY LAST WEEK WE WERE PROUD TO ANNOUNCE IT FOR THE FOURTH YEAR IN A ROW.
OUR SCHOOL DIVISION HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS THE NUMBER ONE SCHOOL DIVISION IN THE RICHMOND METRO REGION AND OUR SCHOOL DIVISION FOR THE FIRST TIME, UH, AS IT'S BEEN MEASURED HAS BEEN RECEIVING THE BEST TEACHERS IN THE REGION OR SO BEST TEACHERS, BEST SCHOOL DIVISION IN THE REGION, AND CERTAINLY A LOT FOR OUR, OUR SCHOOL DIVISION TO BE PROUD OF.
YOU HAVE SUPPORTED US GREATLY.
OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORTS US GREATLY.
AND SO IT'S OUR PLEASURE THIS AFTERNOON TO PROVIDE YOU A GLIMPSE INTO WHAT WE'RE DOING AT GOOGLE IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND GIVING YOU A TASTE OF SOME OF THE BOOKS THAT OUR STUDENTS ARE EXPERIENCING THROUGH THE GENRE CAFE.
WE HAVE OUR WAITSTAFF WITH US TODAY LED BY MS. SARAH SMITH AND OUR WONDERFUL GOOCHLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS, MS. SMITH.
[2. “Book Tasting at the G.E.S Genre Cafe" - Tina McKay, GES Principal and Sarah]
HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.I'M SARAH SMITH, THE LIBRARIAN AT GOOCHLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.
I HAVE WITH ME, UH, NOT, NOT OLD AND TESTING OUT HANOVER, CAT PAISLEY, RUSSELL NEUROGLIA, LOUIS, JOSEPH PARKER, AND LAMB CUCINA FOR OUR WAIT STAFF TODAY.
UM, AND THESE ARE ALL FIFTH GRADERS AT GOOCHLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND IN FIFTH GRADE, UM, A LOT OF STUDENTS ALREADY KNOW WHAT TYPE OF BOOKS THEY ENJOY AND WHAT THEY LIKE TO READ, BUT A LOT DO NOT.
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT GOOD FIT.
SO BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, WE HAVE A GENRE LESSON, UM, AND STUDENTS ARE EXPOSED TO DIFFERENT TYPES OF BOOKS AND ARE ALWAYS ENCOURAGED TO TRY SOMETHING NEW.
SO IN COLLABORATION WITH FIFTH GRADE READING, UM, WE HAVE A LIVE, UH, A LIBRARY DAY THAT STUDENTS COME IN TO DO A BOOK TASTING TO EXPERIENCE DIFFERENT BOOKS AND TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY MIGHT LIKE TO ORDER AT THE GES LIBRARY OR AT THEIR PUBLIC LIBRARY.
SO STUDENTS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TASTE THESE DIFFERENT BOOKS.
AND, UM, AND WE TALK ABOUT JUST LIKE GOING OUT TO EAT.
WE ALWAYS HAVE OUR FAVORITES, BUT IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO TRY SOMETHING NEW AS WELL.
I'M HOLDING THERE, UM, FAVORITE BOOKS FROM OUR GENRE CAFE TASTINGS THAT WE'VE DONE, AND YOU'LL SEE A VARIETY OF BOOKS THAT THEY'RE HOLDING.
AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO HELP TODAY WITH OUR PRESENTATION TO KIND OF JUST SHOW YOU WHAT, WHAT THE GENRE CAFE LOOKS LIKE.
AND OUR FIRST PART IS WE HAVE SOME MENUS AND THEY ARE GOING TO PASS OUT SOME MENUS TO YOU.
SO TAKE EACH PERSON AND MENU PLEASE.
AND SO ON OUR MENU, YOU WILL SEE SOME, YOU CAN JUST GIVE EACH ONE, THANK YOU EACH.
UM, YOU'LL SEE SOME APPETIZERS, SOME ENTREES AND SOME DESSERTS, UM, OF THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF LITERATURE GENRES THAT WE OFFER AT THE GENRE CAFE.
AND WHAT WE FIRST DO IS WE GET TO KNOW THE GENRES.
UM, WE DID NOT BRING OUR NOTE-TAKING GUIDES THAT THEY DID THAT DAY, BUT THEY REALLY TOOK A DEEP DIVE INTO THE INGREDIENTS OF EACH GENRE.
WHAT MAKES UP THE CHARACTERISTICS.
AND THEN THEY OFTEN LIKE TO PROVIDE THEIR OWN EXAMPLES ALSO OF THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF GENRES, AND THEN IT'S TIME TO DO OUR BOOK TASTING.
SO THEY'RE GOING TO BRING YOU ALL.
IF YOU WOULD TAKE THIS TRAY OF BOOK, DO I NEED TO CARRY IT TOGETHER? THEY'RE GOING TO BRING SOME DIFFERENT BOOKS TO YOU SO THAT YOU CAN EXPERIENCE
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WHAT IS TASTING AND TAKE IT OVER TO KIND OF THE CENTER.I TOLD HIM IT'S OKAY IF THEY DROP SOMETHING IT'S THEY WON'T BREAK ANYTHING.
AND YOU CAN PUT THAT YOU GUYS CAN HAVE THAT RIGHT ON HERE.
UM, THE TABLES, IF YOU HAVE ROOMS AND HERE ARE SOME
I'LL PUT SOME PICTURES UP WHERE THEY WOULD TASTE THE DIFFERENT GENRES AND THEY CAN TELL YOU ABOUT THE DIFFERENT GENRES THAT THEY'RE HOLDING.
UM, AND TODAY WE SERVED ONE APPETIZER, OUR INFORMATIONAL BOOKS, ONE GRAPHIC NOVEL, UM, TRAY, WHICH IS OUR DESSERT.
AND OUR ENTREE TODAY IS OUR ADVENTURE BOOKS.
SO I PASSED OUT ALSO JUST THE, UM, THE LITTLE TASTING THAT THEY WOULD DO TO SEE THE BOOKS.
AND YOU CAN PUT IT RIGHT BACK ON MY TRAY AND WE'LL GET THEM WHEN WE'RE DONE.
SO FOLLOWING OUR BOOK TASTING, THAT WAS A WEEK, UM, ONE LESSON, THE FOLLOWING WEEK STUDENTS DID WHAT SOME OF THEM WOULD MAYBE SAY WAS PART OF THEIR FAVORITE PART OF THIS, WHICH WAS WHAT'S YOUR GENRE PERSONALITY.
AND THIS IS AN ACTIVITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK YOU GUYS TO DO.
IT SHOULD BE QUICK, UM, WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO WE'LL DO THE PAPERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A PENCIL, BUT IF YOU NEED A PENCIL, YOU WANT TO PASS OUT THE PENCILS AND THEN WE HAVE BOOKMARKS.
YOU GUYS WILL PASS OUT THE BOOKMARKS.
SO THIS LITTLE PAPER THAT YOU'RE GETTING, GO AHEAD AND PASS THEM OUT.
AND JOSEPH IS WHERE YOU CAN PICK UP TO THREE LETTER CHOICES FOR YOUR GENRE PERSONALITY.
AND THIS WILL, THIS HELPED STUDENTS SEE, UM, WHAT TYPE OF GENRE THEY WERE KIND OF DRAWN TO.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU IN A FEW MINUTES THAT THERE WERE SOME SURPRISES OF WHAT THEY FOUND THAT THEY, THAT THEY LIKED.
SO THIS IS JUST FOR FUN TO CIRCLE THE LETTERS.
SO, UM, AND THEN IT JUST ASKS QUESTIONS SAYING LIKE, WHERE WOULD YOU RATHER BE RIGHT NOW? OR WHY DO YOU READ? AND, UM, YES, RIGHT HERE, THAT'S, UH, THAT WAS AN OPTION ON THERE.
AND, UM, IT HELPS THEM TO DISCOVER, UM, MAYBE KIND OF WHAT THEY ARE DRAWN TO, AND THEN THEY HAVE SOME, UM, BOOKMARKS BASED ON YOUR ANSWER CHOICES.
IF YOU GET MOSTLY A'S, IF YOU GET MOSTLY BS, IF YOU GET MOSTLY CS.
SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES OR NOT FEW MINUTES, BUT A FEW SECONDS JUST TO KIND OF FILL IT OUT OR SEE WHAT LETTER YOU WOULD BE.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN PICK MORE THAN ONE BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY HAS JUST ONE TYPE OF GENRE.
SO BASED ON YOUR ANSWERS OR WHAT YOU'RE SEEING, MOSTLY OF STUDENTS HAVE, UM, BOOKMARKS THAT WOULD SHOW YOU KIND OF WHAT YOUR RESULT IS.
AND I'LL PUT THE RESULTS UP IN A SECOND AND YOU CAN SEE KIND OF YOUR GENRE PERSONALITY.
YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT ONE, 200? OKAY.
I LIKE THIS ONE YOU NEED, BECAUSE YOUR TEACHER MAKES YOU READ, WHAT ARE YOUR PARENTS? IT SAYS ALL YOUR PARENTS.
SO, UM, DOES IT, DOESN'T MAKE US TAKE NOTES, YOUR RESULTS.
WE FIND THAT MOST OF THE STUDENTS WILL FALL INTO TWO OR THREE CATEGORIES.
AND THEN WE ALSO TALK ABOUT, UM, MAYBE SOME OF THEM WERE SCORED REALLY LOW.
SOME OF THEM MAY, THEY MAY NOT HAVE CHOSEN SOME OF THE LETTERS AT ALL, AND THAT THAT'S OKAY TOO.
UM, AND THAT THEY MAY FIND SOMETHING NEW.
SO AT THE END, ONCE YOU'VE TALLIED OUR, UM, CATEGORIES FOR OUR
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GENRE PERSONALITY INCLUDE THE QUESTIONER, THE ESCAPIST, THE INNOVATOR, THE REALIST, THE HISTORY BUFF, THE THRILL SEEKER, THE COMEDIAN, THE BESTIE, AND THE ACTIVIST.SO IF YOU ALL HAVE, UM, LETTERS THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR PAPER THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO YOU, THE STUDENTS HAVE ENVELOPES WITH BOOKMARKS.
AND THEN THAT KIND OF TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR GENRE PERSONALITY AND HAVE A RECOMMENDED BOOK LIST.
UM, SOME OF THE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AT OUR, UM, SCHOOL LIBRARY.
SOME OF THEM ARE AVAILABLE AT OUR PUBLIC LIBRARY.
UM, AND SO IT, THE STUDENTS REALLY ENJOYED THIS.
AND IF YOU WANT TO PASS OUT THE BOOKMARKS, YOU CAN ASK THEM WHAT THEY HAD MOST STUFF AND SEE, AND THEN THE STUDENTS ARE GOING TO SHARE SOME FINAL THOUGHTS WITH YOU.
WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE DONE, YOU CAN BRING THE ENVELOPES BACK, BUT IF EVERY BUTTON NEEDS THEIR THERE, OH, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR BOOKMARK.
WE LOVE TO GIVE OUT BOOKMARKS.
AND THEN OUR STUDENTS ARE GOING TO SHARE SOME OF THEIR FINAL THOUGHTS.
QUESTIONER, DO YOU NEED ME TO GO BACK, JOSEPH? YOU CAN HANG ONTO US WITH RULER TRAY RIGHT OUT.
SO WE WOULD THEN TALK ABOUT IF ANYONE WAS SURPRISED BY THEIR ANSWER, STUDENTS TOOK 2, 3, 4 BOOKMARKS, DEPENDING ON WHAT THEY HAD SO THAT THEY COULD SEE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BOOKS.
UM, AND SO OUR FINAL PART IS THE STUDENTS.
WE TALKED ABOUT SOME REFLECTIONS ABOUT OUR FAVORITE PARTS, ABOUT WHAT WE LEARNED ABOUT WHAT CHALLENGED US ABOUT WHAT SURPRISED US.
SO STUDENTS ARE GOING TO KIND OF REFLECT ON BOTH OF THESE ACTIVITIES FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
ALL YOU'D LIKE TO START US OFF.
MY FAVORITE PART WAS THE GENRE PERSONALITY QUIZ, BECAUSE I COULD FIND OUT WHAT TYPE OF BOOKS I COULD READ.
UH, REMEMBER WHAT YOU WERE, IT WAS QUITE AWHILE AGO WAS EAR ESCAPIST, NOT EVEN YOUR CLASS.
WILLIAM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US WHAT YOU LEARNED ABOUT YOURSELF? YUP.
I WAS SURPRISED BECAUSE I THOUGHT I'D ONLY LIKE GRAPHIC NOVELS, BUT I LIKE SO MANY OTHER BOOKS TOO.
I WAS, YOU REMEMBER WHAT YOU WERE? NO.
UM, I THOUGHT THAT WHAT DID I THINK WAS CHALLENGING? I WAS CHALLENGED BY THE ACTIVITY WHEN I HAD TO RATE THE BOOKS BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL REALLY GOOD.
UM, UM, UH, WHAT I, HOW I WILL USE THIS, WHAT I LEARNED THIS YEAR, UM, I WILL MOST PROBABLY USE IT TO LIKE USE IT TO PICK OUT BOOKS FROM EITHER THE GOOCHLAND LIBRARY OR THE NORMAL,
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MY RE LIBRARY, AND BASICALLY ANY LIBRARIES GOT CAMERAS ON IT.SO YEAH, I CAN PICK OUT THE BOOKS.
I WANT TO READ KNOWING WHAT THE PERSONALITY TESTS.
SO I'LL USE THAT TO PICK OUT THE BOOKS.
UM, SO I USUALLY LIKE HISTORICAL FICTION.
UM, I WAS SURPRISED HOW MUCH I LIKED THE FANTASY GENRE, CAUSE I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD LIKE THIS.
SO YEAH, THAT WAS A SURPRISE TO ME.
I WAS MOST PROUD THAT I WAS IN THE BEST EAST GROUP BECAUSE I ACTUALLY DO HAVE A POWELL TRENT.
SO WE'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR HAVING US TODAY AND SHARING OUR GENRE CAFE WITH YOU AND HAVING A LOOK, UM, FIFTH GRADE AND THE GRADE STUDENTS AT GES.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR OUR STATE.
RILEY TO ACCEPTING INVITATION BOARD MEMBERS.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT OUR STUDENTS GAVE UP THEIR PHYSICAL EDUCATION CLASS TO BE HERE TODAY.
I WAS AFRAID YOU WERE GOING TO ASK US TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR HOMEWORK.
I'M NOT SURE I COULD HELP A FIFTH GRADER WITH THEIR HOMEWORK.
ARE YOU SMARTER THAN NOT SURE THAT WAS TWISTED COMMENT PERIOD.
SO NOW WE'LL TRY AND JUST ALLOW, YOU CAN FOLLOW THAT JONATHAN LAO, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD, MONACAN SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DIRECTOR AND HOUSTON FARM BUREAU DIRECTOR.
UM, I WAS NOT AWARE THAT CITIZENS WERE ALLOWED TO HAND OUT QUIZZES TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
YEAH, SO, SO, UM, I, I DO WANT TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION ON THE AG COMMUNITY, UH, WITH YOU.
UM, UH, WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT THE COUNTY HAS WITH MONICA SOIL WATER.
UM, THE OFFICE SPACE IS REALLY APPRECIATED AND WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE BUDGETARY SUPPORT WE RECEIVE.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE A MILLION $300,000 IN COST SHARE FUNDING FROM DCR THIS YEAR, AND WE'VE ALREADY ALLOCATED OR HAVE CONVERSATIONS.
I DON'T WANT TO CALL THEM CONTRACTS PER SE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN FULLY EXECUTED BY 20% OF THAT MONEY IS ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE.
SO WE ARE MOVING AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, UH, WITH IT BEING A GOVERNMENT OPERATION, UH, TO GET THIS MONEY INTO CONSERVATION PROGRAMS HERE IN POWELL, TAN AND HOUSTON COUNTY.
UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DID NOT GET TO GO TO THE STATE FAIR THIS YEAR, SORRY, IT'S, UH, OVER, YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT AGAIN UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
UH, IT WAS, UH, ENCOURAGING TO SEE THE AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ONCE AGAIN, HAVE AND HOST THE STATE FAIR.
UH, THE GIBSON FARM BUREAU HAD ITS ANNUAL MEETING, UH, ON THE 24TH.
I BELIEVE IT WAS, UM, LAST MONDAY, UH, WE HAVE TWO NEW DIRECTORS WHILE ACTUALLY WE HAVE ONE RETURNING DIRECTOR, DANNY ALLEN, WHO IS ALSO THE, UM, UH, FFA FUTURE FARMERS OF AMERICA SPONSOR AT, UH, GIBSON HIGH SCHOOL, AS WELL AS THE AGRA NOMICS, AGRICULTURAL, UH, TEACHER THERE.
AND THEN THOMAS HENLEY, WHO WAS ASSOCIATED WITH ELVIS FARMS, WHICH IS THE LARGEST, UH, AGRICULTURAL OPERATION IN THE COUNTY.
SO, UH, WE ARE, AND, AND I MIGHT MENTION ALSO JIM PARKER, WHO HAD BEEN A LONG TIME DIRECTOR OF GRUESOME FARM BUREAU HAS CYCLED OFF AND IS NOW A DIRECTOR AMERITAS.
SO I'M GOING TO GO QUICKLY BECAUSE THE LIGHTS BLINKING.
UM, WE DID ASK
THAT'LL GO TO THE STATE CONFERENCE.
UH, WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF ANY OF THE NEW GREEN DEAL, UH, CONSTRAINTS ON AGRICULTURE, PARTICULARLY AS THEY APPLY TO, UM, LIVESTOCK.
WE, UH, AS A STATE, UH, ARE GOING TO REQUEST, CONTINUE TO SUPPORT FOR THE DCR COST-SHARE FUNDING FOR, UH, THE SOIL CONSERVATION DISTRICTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMONWEALTH.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A CONCERN FOR SLOW MOVING VEHICLES, SAFETY, UH, PROGRAMS ON THE FARMER SIDE, THAT THE FARMER UNDERSTANDS THAT IT IS GOOD HIGHWAY COURTESY TO PULL OVER
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WHEN THERE IS A LINE OF CARS BEHIND THEM, UH, WHERE IT IS SAFE TO DO SO.SO, UH, UH, SAY, AND, UH, WE DID TALK ABOUT SAFETY.
UH, UH, LAST WEEK WAS NATIONAL FARM HEALTH AND SAFETY WEEK, UH, AT GRUESOME FARM BUREAU.
WE HAVE A REPORT EVERY MONTH OF ANY FARM ACCIDENTS WE'RE AWARE OF THAT OCCURRED IN THE COUNTY.
AND SO FAR WE HAVE NONE TO REPORT THIS YEAR.
SO THE RED LIGHT BLINKED, I WILL SIT DOWN.
THANK YOU, MR. ANYBODY ELSE? WISH TO SPEAK.
UM, REMIND ME TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE DCR COST SHARE ON THE BREAK HERE.
I WANT TO KNOW THAT'S JEREMY REMEMBERED TO ASK ME ABOUT THE CONTRACT.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
FIRST, THE AFTERNOON SESSION AND MOVE ON WITH, UM, NEXT, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL ONE ACTION ITEM ON APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MONTH.
[IX. Approval of Action Minutes]
MINUTES ARE IN THE AGENDA.UM, I FIRST HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2021 SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE, AYE.
ANY APPOINTMENT PASSES FOUR TO ZERO.
WE NOW MOVE ALONG INTO REPORTS.
AND AS USUAL, WE START UP WITH VITA, MR. WYNN, OBVIOUSLY
[X. Reports]
MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ALVAREZ HAIL DURING THIS AFTERNOON.[1. 5145: VDOT - September 2021]
THIS PAST MONTH WE, WE RECEIVED 84 WORK ORDERS COMPLETED 122 AND HAD 12 AFTER OUR CALLS.UM, WE COMPLETED A THIRD CYCLE OF PRIMARY MODE AND WE'LL DO ANOTHER CYCLE OF PRIMARY MODE BEFORE PROBABLY RUN 1ST OF NOVEMBER.
SOME IN THAT TIMEFRAME, WE'RE WORKING ON THE SECOND CYCLE OF SECONDARY MODE RIGHT NOW, AND HOPE TO COMPLETE THAT BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, UH, WE'VE COMPLETED TWO RURAL RUSTIC PROJECTS.
BOTH OF THEM IN MS. LOS COLETTE'S AREA, UH, ONE-ON-ONE WAS HERNDON ROADS, ROUTE 7 0 3 AND THE OTHER ONE IS A BOWLS ROAD, ROUTE 6 77.
WE HAVE ONE MORE TO COMPLETE AS JERUSALEM CHURCH ROAD.
THEY SHOULD HAVE THAT COMPLETE NEXT WEEK.
THEY WERE WORKING ON THAT TODAY.
AND UM, IF WEATHER PERMITS, WE'LL TRY TO SHOOT IT THIS WEEK WITH A PRIME AND DOUBLE SEAL.
UH, THE CAPE SEAL, UH, SCHEDULE WORK IS COMPLETE.
VILLAGE HILL HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
SHELTON RIDGE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND HIGH GROWTH HAS BEEN COMPLETED, HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER ROUTES THAT WERE COMPLETED, NOT ENOUGH SUBDIVISION PER SE, BUT SLUR.
I MEAN, CAPE SEAL IS COMPLETE RIGHT NOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE BEEN DOWN ASHLAND ROAD WHERE THEY'RE DOING THE PAVING OUT THERE.
THEY'RE CLOSE TO COMPLETING THAT.
THEY STILL HAVE TO DO PAVEMENT MARKING AND, UH, SHOULDER STONE ACTIVITIES OUT THERE.
UH, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL GET THAT DONE BY THE END SOMETIME NEXT WEEK, UH, THE PIPE REHAB ON JOHNSON ROAD, ROUTE 6 85, THAT'S BEEN COMPLETED, UM, THE BRIDGE PROJECT ON THE LAST BRICK BRIDGE PROJECT ON SHANNON HILL ROAD THAT WAS COMPLETED LAST WEEK AND THE BRIDGE WAS OPEN AHEAD OF TIME, WHICH WAS A GOOD THING.
UM, HAVE, UH, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN ON THE DOCKET FOR A WHILE.
OAKLAND CHURCH ROAD, ROUTE 7 0 1.
WE WORK BETWEEN LOUISA AND US CHANGE THE SPEED LIMIT.
IT WAS A STATUTORY 55 SPEED LIMIT NOW IS 40 AND THE SIGNS ARE UP.
SO OTHER THAN THAT, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE SOMETHING TO COMMUNICATE WITH ME BOARD MEMBERS.
ANY QUESTIONS MR. WYNN COMMENTS? YES.
WE HAD A GREAT MEETING YESTERDAY.
WE WERE MEETING QUARTERLY NOW FOR CITIZENS.
I DON'T KNOW, UH, VIA LEADERSHIP AND GUCCI AND LEADERSHIP, AND IT'S GONE VERY WELL.
AND I THINK WE'RE MOVING THINGS ALONG VERY WELL.
AND I DID WANT TO ASK BEFORE, I DID WANT TO READ SOMETHING TO YOU, BUT THE ASHLAND ROAD BEING COMPLETED, IS THAT A ROAD THAT WOULD BE QUALIFIED FOR THE RUMBLE STRIPS THAT WE HEARD ABOUT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO TO HELP PEOPLE FROM VEERING? OR IS THAT, WOULD THAT NOT BE A ROAD SINCE WE'RE? I THINK WE HEARD THE FEEDBACK THAT THAT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE WHEN IT'S BEING BUILT.
I WOULD CONSIDER IT MORE FOR A PRIMARY ROAD THAN A SECONDARY ROAD.
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UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED A COUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT WHITE HALL ROAD AND SOME OF THE PATCHWORK THAT WAS DONE.AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.
WE JUST GOT A BUNCH OF EMAILS ABOUT IT.
AND WHILE I WAS OUT OF TOWN FOR BUSINESS, I GOT A FOLLOW UP THAT I JUST, I KNOW YOU GUYS GET A LOT OF EMAILS AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GET ON A LOT LIKE THIS, SO I'D WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND READ IT.
I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU IN THE
ALL CAPS FOR EXCLAMATION POINTS.
I'M VERY IMPRESSED NOT TO MENTION VERY PLEASED WITH THE FAST RESPONSE AND ATTENTION TO OUR LITTLE COUNTY ROAD, WHITE HALL RECEIVED.
IT LOOKS A HUNDRED PERCENT BETTER, BUT MOSTLY THE MOST IMPORTANTLY WE KNOW THE SAFE DRIVING CONDITIONS OF OUR ROAD HAS GREATLY INCREASED TO PLEASE PASS ALONG A HUGE THANK YOU TO ARVIDA CREW THAT CAME OUT IMMEDIATELY TO ADDRESS THE SITUATION.
WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL TO THEM, UM, WITH HIGHER QUALITY AND STANDARDS TO PUT THIS PATCHWORK DONE.
SO I WOULD HAVE HAD A FRAME FOR YOU, BUT THAT A CHANCE.
YEAH, I MEAN, WE DISCUSSED THIS YESTERDAY 4.2 MILES OF WHITE.
HALL'S GOING TO BE PAID NEXT YEAR.
IT'S ON AIR PAVING SCHEDULE AND HOPEFULLY THE FOLLOWING YEAR WE'LL GET EVERYTHING ELSE DONE OUT TO, UH, HAYDENVILLE FIFE ROAD.
SO IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
MOSTLY NOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT ROADS WITH 3,500 VEHICLES OR MORE, WELL, THIS DOESN'T TOUCH THAT, BUT IT'S, UH, WE PUSHED AND PUSHED AND PUSHED ON SEVERAL OF THE, YOU KNOW, ROADS THAT DON'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC COUNT TO TRY TO GET THESE ROADS IN BETTER SHAPE.
SO, AND I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS LONG AS I'M AROUND.
THEY SAID THAT WAS DONE RECENTLY.
YES, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED LAST WEEK.
GOOD AS EARL'S AND THE OTHER, OTHER ROUTES BACK IN THERE, UM, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING THEM, I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S CAPE SEAL VERSUS PAVING.
I MEAN, CAPE SEAL IS WHAT YOU DO TO YEAH.
A CAPE SEAL IS, IS REALLY A SURFACE TREATMENT FIRST.
WELL ACTUALLY FIRST THING THEY DO IS THEY GO IN AND DO PATCHES, ASPHALT PATCHING.
THEN THEY COME BACK AND DO A SURFACE TREATMENT.
IT'S BASICALLY TAR AND, AND TARAN DUST.
AND THEN THEY COME OVER TOP OF THAT WITH A SLURRY SEAL, WHICH IS IT'S, IT'S A THICKER TYPE.
IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY THICK MATERIAL IT'S MADE OUT OF A FINE DUSTIN TAR AND, AND LIME AND THAT SORT OF THING, WHICH SEALS ALL THE CRACKS ON IT.
I MEAN, ONE SIDE WILL LOOK BROWN, MR. SPOON HOUSE, THOSE BAD DAYS, AND OTHER SIDE WILL LOOK DARK, BUT AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, IT'LL ALL TURN A GRAYISH COLOR, THE CRACKS IN THERE THAT, OH, THAT'S ALL SEALED UP.
AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED DISTRICT ONE AND THIS LAST SHE'S SHE'S FEELING UNDER THE WEATHER.
I KNOW SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET HERE, BUT SHE JUST FEEL A LITTLE UNDER THE WEATHER.
SO SHE'S PROBABLY GETTING, YEAH, WE, WE COULD TELL THAT YESTERDAY IN OUR MEETING SHE WAS, SHE WAS A BAD COLD COUGH AND COLD OR WHATEVER SHE HAS.
SHE WASN'T FEELING VERY WELL AT HOME.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REPORT.
CHIEF CHIEF FERGUSON FIRE RESCUE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, ANY FERGUSON FIRE RESCUE
[2. 5140: Fire-Rescue 10.05.21]
CHIEF BEFORE WE GET STARTED ON THE REPORT, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ALSO COMMEND THAT THE GOODSON DAY FOUNDATION, UH, THE LADIES WHO WERE HERE EARLIER FOR, BUT DOING A FANTASTIC JOB, UH, BRINGING OUR COUNTY FESTIVAL, UH, BACK TO THE, TO THE COURTHOUSE.UM, IT WAS A VERY FUN DAY AND IT BROUGHT BACK MANY FOND MEMORIES OF THE PARADE IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
AND I KNOW, UH, SPEAK FOR SHERIFF CHRISSY AS WELL, THAT WE WERE BOTH HUMBLED AND HONORED TO SERVE AS, UH, GRAND MARSHALS FOR THE PARADE.
AND WE'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT FOR MANY YEARS, UH, GOING FORWARD AND NEVER FORGET IT.
UH, FIRE RESCUE, UH, THE REPORT HAS BEEN PROVIDED AS NORMAL, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT.
UH, THE, THE SLOGAN THIS YEAR IS LEARNED THE SOUNDS OF FIRE SAFETY.
AND I BROUGHT WITH ME A SMOKE ALARM IN CASE ANYONE NEEDS ONE, UH, ANY CITIZEN IN THE COUNTY THAT NEEDS A FREE SMOKE ALARM.
UH, JUST GIVE FIRE RESCUE ADMINISTRATION A CALL AT (804) 556-5304.
AND WE'LL SCHEDULE A TIME TO COME OUT AND PUT UP THE, UH, THE SMOKE ALARM FIRE PREVENTION WEEK, UH, ACTUALLY COMMEMORATES THE GREAT CHICAGO FIRE BACK IN 1871, UH, WHICH A VERY SERIOUS FIRE THAT, UH, KILLED OVER 300 PEOPLE.
17,000 STRUCTURES WERE DESTROYED AND BURNED OVER SEVERAL DAYS.
UH, THE STORY GOES THAT IT WAS
[01:05:01]
MS. KATHERINE OLD LARRY'S CARE COW WHO KICKED OVER A LANTERN IN THE BARN AND IT STARTED THE FIRE, BUT WE CAPITALIZE ON THIS TO TEACH ADULTS AND CHILDREN, UH, WHAT TO DO IN THE EVENT OF FIRE AND HOW TO SAFELY, UH, BE ABLE TO, UM, EVACUATE BUILDINGS AND SO FORTH.UH, IF, IF THERE IS ACTUALLY A FIRE, I WILL ALSO TELL YOU THAT, UM, LEARN THE SOUNDS OF FIRE SAFETY IS VERY APPROPRIATE.
UH, BECAUSE TODAY WITH A MODERN CONSTRUCTION, YOU ONLY HAVE THREE TO FOUR MINUTES TO GET OUT OF A HOUSE FIRE.
WHEREAS 30 YEARS AGO YOU HAD ALMOST 17 MINUTES TO GET OUT.
UH, ACCORDING TO, UH, STUDIES, UH, BASED ON THE, THE NUMBER OF SYNTHETICS AND THE THINGS IN THE HOME THAT CAUSED THE FIRE TODAY TO BURN MUCH HOTTER AND MUCH FASTER, UH, CERTAINLY, UH, DECREASES THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU HAVE TO SAFELY EXIT.
SO HAVING A WORKING SMOKE ALARM OR A CARBON MONOXIDE ALARM IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND AGAIN, ONE MORE PLUG, UH, IF, IF ANYONE NEEDS A SMOKE DETECTOR, WE'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, COME OUT AND GIVE YOU ONE OR PUT IT UP FOR YOU.
UH, THIS WEEK IS, UH, IS ALSO GOING TO BE A TIME THAT WE'RE OUT IN THE PUBLIC AND WE'RE CONDUCTING A MANY FIRE FIRE SAFETY EDUCATION PROGRAMS, BOTH IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS, AS WELL AS, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY AT THE DAY SCHOOLS AND SO FORTH AROUND THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO WE ARE, UH, LOOKING, LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYONE IN AND DOING JUST THAT, UM, WHILE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LUCKY AND FORTUNATE IN GOOCHLAND THAT WE HAVEN'T, UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY, ANY DEATHS FOR HOUSE FIRES, UH, IS CERTAINLY CAN HAPPEN.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE STATE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS PART OF THE GENIE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROGRAMS DOES REPORT.
UH, 21 CIVILIANS HAVE DIED IN FIRES IN VIRGINIA ALREADY, AND THERE ARE SEVERAL INVESTIGATIONS PENDING OUTCOME FOR POTENTIAL OTHERS THAT THAT COULD BE ADDED.
AND CERTAINLY WE'VE HAD FIERY CRASHES, UH, HERE IN THE COUNTY WHERE WE'VE HAVE HAD, UM, UH, FIRE FATALITIES IN VEHICLE ACCIDENTS, UH, INVOLVED WITH FIRE.
ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT, UH, THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT, UH, OUR EMS, UH, PROVIDERS, UH, ONCE AGAIN RECEIVED, UH, AN, UH, MISSION LIFELINE AWARD FROM THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION, THIS YEAR'S AWARD IS A BRONZE AWARD AND IT PRETTY MUCH, UH, UH, RECOGNIZES OUR ABILITIES TO DELIVER A CARDIAC AND STROKE CARE TO OUR PATIENTS.
UH, EVERYTHING FROM, FROM RECOGNITION TO, UH, GETTING THE RIGHT UNITS ON SCENE, OUR NINE 11 CENTER AND GETTING THE RIGHT UNITS ON SCENE, UH, 12 LEAD EKG AND TRANSPORT TO THE RIGHT TO HOSPITAL, AS WELL AS THAT, UH, EARLY NOTIFICATION TO THE CATH LABS.
AND IF, IF YOU RECALL, YOU ALLOWED US TO INVEST IN SOME EQUIPMENT THAT ALLOWS OUR CARDIAC MONITOR DEFIBRILLATORS TO TRANSMIT A 12 LEAD EKG FROM A PERSON'S LIVING ROOM WHERE THE SIDE OF THE ROAD DIRECTLY INTO THE HOSPITAL THAT HAS THE CATH LAB FACILITIES, AND THAT HAS WORKED OUT VERY WELL FOR US.
AND SO WE'VE HAD SEVERAL AWARDS IN THE PAST AND GOLD AWARDS, AND THIS YEAR IS BRONZE, AND THAT IS USUALLY PREDICATED ON YOUR VOLUME OF, UH, OF CARDIAC PATIENTS.
AND CERTAINLY WE KNOW THAT, UH, THE AWARD IN 2021, UH, WAS ALSO FOR THE 2020 NUMBERS, WHICH WERE A LITTLE LOW COMPARATIVELY.
WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OF US HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, MYSELF AND A GENERAL SERVICE DIRECTOR, SCOTT FOSTER AND FIRE RESCUE, LIEUTENANT, UH, VOLUNTEER MARTIN DEAN WENT TO THE FERRERO CONFERENCE IN GREENVILLE, SOUTH CAROLINA, SEPTEMBER THE 19TH THROUGH THE 25TH, I THINK IS WHAT IT WAS.
AND WE ACTUALLY, UM, WE'RE THERE DOING LEARNING ABOUT NEW FIRE STATION DESIGN, AS WELL AS, UH, FIRE TRAINING CENTER DESIGN.
AND WE BROUGHT BACK A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS ABOUT, UH, HOW TO DESIGN FIRE STATIONS.
THE OVERARCHING THEME WAS BUILD YOUR FIRE STATIONS AS INFRASTRUCTURE TO LAST 75 YEARS, MAKE YOUR INVESTMENT UPFRONT, AS WELL AS, UH, DESIGN YOUR BUILDINGS FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE PERSONNEL THAT OCCUPY THEM.
AND CERTAINLY, UH, IN FIRE AND FIRE RESCUE, THERE ARE MANY CONTAMINANTS, EVERYTHING FROM INFECTIOUS DISEASE TO CARCINOGENS THAT WE DEAL WITH.
AND THERE WERE AREAS OF THE FIRE STATION THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE GREEN AREAS OR THE GREEN ZONE AND THE YELLOW ZONE FOR CONTAMINATION.
AND THE HOT ZONE OF COURSE, IS WHERE YOU WOULD WANT TO KEEP THAT CONTAMINATION STATION SIX.
AND HAYDENVILLE WAS DESIGNED, UH, IN THIS MANNER, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
UH, WE ALSO PICKED UP, UH, MANY GOOD IDEAS ABOUT FIRE TRAINING CENTER DESIGN.
AND SO WE HOPE TO BE PUTTING SOME OF THAT TO, UH, TO USE REAL SOON AND LOOK FORWARD TO THAT NEW LADDER TRUCK IS, UH, IS IN THE STATION THAT MANNEQUIN COMPANY ONE, AND WE ARE, UH, TRAINING ON IT.
AS WE SPEAK TODAY, FINISHED UP, UH, THREE DAYS, THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS OF TRAINING PROVIDED BY THE MATT PIERCE MANUFACTURING.
THE BUILDERS OF THE VEHICLE IS SEND SOMEONE IN FROM APPLETON WISCONSIN, AND THEY COVERED ALL THE OPERATION OF THE UNIT, THE SAFETY FEATURES AND ALL THE WARRANTIES AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN WE HAVE TRAINING GOING FORWARD.
IT'S OUR PLAN TO HAVE THE UNIT FULLY IN SERVICE FOR CALLS BY NOVEMBER.
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I WANTED TO TELL YOU AND GIVE YOU A DEMONSTRATION OF THE COOPERATION THAT WE ENJOY WITH THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY VOLUNTEER FIRE RESCUE ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED WHEN THE LADDER TRUCK, UH, WHAT THE MANNEQUIN COMPANY ONE, THEY TRANSFERRED A 2006 HEAVY RESCUE, UH, THAT WAS IN EXCELLENT CONDITION TO COMPANY SIX IN HAINESVILLE AND RETURNED COMPANY SIX IN HAYDENVILLE TRANSFERRED THERE, LIGHT DUTY RESCUE AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, A 2005, 2006, MODEL TWO COMPANY TWO IN CROZIER, UH, WHERE IT BECAME OUR HAZMAT UNIT.AND WE WERE ABLE TO DECOMMISSION A RESCUE UNIT THAT WAS BOUGHT IN 1989.
AND WE ACTUALLY DONATED IT TO THE METRO RICHMOND FLYING SQUAD.
UH, OVER THE WEEKEND AT THE METRO RICHMOND FLYING SQUAD IS A, A REHAB GROUP THAT PROVIDES FIREGROUND REHAB SERVICES TO BOTH THE CITY OF RICHMOND AND HENRICO COUNTY.
AND THEY'LL USE THOSE VEHICLES TO BRING OUT REFRESHMENTS AND THINGS THAT FIREFIGHTERS NEED NEED ON THE SCENE.
AND THERE IS ALSO SOME INTEREST THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY COULD EVEN SERVE, UH, GOOCHLAND COUNTY.
UH, IF WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCIDENT, WE ARE EXCITED TO HAVE PLACED THEIR TWO NEW AMBULANCES IN SERVICE AND THEY ARE, UM, THEY UP AND RUNNING CALLS ALREADY.
ONE OF THEM ALREADY HAS 1500 MILES ON IT.
THEY WENT IN SERVICE LAST WEEK.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, FLEET MAINTENANCE STRATEGIES.
WE PUT THOSE TWO NEW UNITS AT ONE AT FIVE COMPANY FOUR.
AND WHEN A COMPANY IS SIX AND ALLOWED US TO TRANSFER A, ANOTHER NEAR A VEHICLE TO MANNEQUIN THAT HAS, UH, JUST AROUND 75,000 MILES ON IT.
UH, OF COURSE THE EASTERN COMPANIES DON'T ACCUMULATE KNOWLEDGE NEARLY AS QUICK.
THEY HAVE MORE CALLS IN SOME CASES, BUT THE TURNAROUND ON KNOWLEDGES IS MUCH FASTER AND LIGHTER.
SO WE WERE REALLY APPRECIATED, UH, THAT, UH, WANT TO TOUCH, KNOW THAT A SEVEN YEAR EMPLOYEES THAT WE INTRODUCED AT THE LAST MEETING HAVE ALL GONE INTO THE FIRE STATION.
WE HAVE TWO THAT ARE STILL CONTINUING TO ONE AND GETTING THEIR, UH, THEIR FIRE TRAINING, WHICH IS, UH, GREATLY, UH, HELPED TO INCREASE OUR STAFFING.
UM, BUT A CHALLENGE HAS, HAS AROSE AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, SINCE LAST FALL, WE'VE LOST SIX, SIX, UH, CAREER FIRE PERSONNEL TO, TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN SOME PRIVATE BUSINESS.
AND SINCE, UM, SINCE JUNE WE'VE LOST ACTUALLY LOST FIVE.
WE HAD ONE THAT WENT TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ONE THAT WENT TO SPOTSYLVANIA, UH, FIRE AND RESCUE ONE TO PRIVATE BUSINESS, UH, PARAMEDIC THAT, UH, WAS WORKING PART-TIME IS GONNA, UH, RESIGNED PART-TIME AND WORK THERE IN FAIRFAX COUNTY, WHEREAS A FULL-TIME JARVIS.
AND YESTERDAY WE LEARNED THAT WE'VE, UH, WE'VE LOST ANOTHER TO THE CITY OF RICHMOND, UH, THE JOB MARKET, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION BEFORE WAS VERY COMPETITIVE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, JOB MARKET RIGHT NOW IN THE METRO AREA, IN THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA AREA.
AND THERE, THE RETENTION, UH, I GUESS IS ONE OF THEM BIG ISSUES, UH, THAT HAS REALLY ESCALATED, UH, SINCE WE LAST REPORTED OUT HERE AT THE PODIUM, UH, AND WE LOSE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.
A LOT OF THAT INVESTMENT AND EXPERIENCE GOES OUT THE DOOR.
ON THE OTHER HAND, UM, RECRUITMENT, UH, ALSO SUFFERS BECAUSE WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A HIRING PROCESS THAT ACTUALLY IS, IS JUST CLOSED.
WE HAD IT OPEN FOR 30 DAYS AND WE COLLECTED, UH, 33 APPLICATIONS.
UM, EIGHT OF WHOM, I UNDERSTAND OUR EMS ONLY IF WE WERE TO HIRE THEM, WE WOULD HAVE TO OFFER A FIRE TRAINING ACADEMY AND THEN THE OTHER 25 APPEAR TO HAVE THE CERTIFICATIONS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR.
BUT IT'S DOUBTFUL THAT A LOW APPLICANT POOL OF SO FEW APPLICANTS WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW US TO, TO FILL ALL FIVE OPENINGS, THE FOUR FULL-TIME AND ONE PART-TIME, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR BEST WITH THAT.
WE ALWAYS, UH, WE ALWAYS SEE THE POSITIVE AND WE'RE GOING TO OFFER A HIRING TEST, UH, UH, AGAIN, ON THE FIFTH, FRIDAY, THE 15TH, I WOULD ALSO JUST LOOK AHEAD ON THE AGENDA, UH, WHILE I HAVE THE MICROPHONE, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I SEE FURTHER DOWN THE AGENDA, THERE'S A, A LINE ITEM THAT ACTUALLY, UM, TALKS ABOUT, UH, THE ARPA FONTS TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THAT IS REALLY, REALLY NICE AND IS, UH, TRULY GENUINELY APPRECIATED.
UM, AS I ALWAYS LIKE TO END, AND CERTAINLY I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM IN FIRE RESCUE AND I'D LIKE TO THANK ALL OF OUR STAFF AND ALL OF OUR VOLUNTEERS AND CAREER MEMBERS OF WHAT THEY DO, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY, UH, FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY AND APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT TO THANK YOU, CHIEF.
I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE BRONZE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION AWARD.
APPRECIATE YOUR EXPLAINING THAT THAT'S CAUSE I KNOW I HAVE HEARD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE IMPROVED IN THAT AREA.
WE HAD GOLD LAST YEAR, BRITTANY AND OUR PREHOSPITAL, UH, COMMUNICATION, I GUESS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF, RIGHT? ANY COMMENTS? THANK YOU AGAIN.
AND IF ANYONE NEEDS A SMOKE ALARM, WE'VE GOT THEM FREE, NO CHARGE.
HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE DIRECT CITIZENS TO REACH OUT FOR THIS FOR SMOKE
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ALARMS? SO THEY COULD, UH, THEY COULD EMAIL ANY OF US AND FIRE RESCUE.THEY COULD CALL THE FIRE RESCUE ADMINISTRATION OFFICE 8 0 4 5 5 6 5 3 0 4, UH, OR GO TO ANY, UH, FIRE STATION OR CALL ANY FIRE STATION.
IF THEY HAPPEN TO HAVE THAT NUMBER AND WE'LL SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT THAT'S CONVENIENT TO THEM AND WE'LL COME OUT AND WE'LL TAKE PRECAUTIONS IN THE HOME.
IF THEY'D LIKE US TO WEAR A MASK WOULD BE GLAD TO DO THAT.
UH, AND WE'LL INSTALL THE SMOKE ALARM SO THAT WE KNOW IT'S IN WORKING ORDER.
WHEN WE LEAVE, YOU KNOW, SADLY I'M ABOUT TWO THIRDS OF THE FATALITIES IN HOUSE FIRES ARE REPORTED TO BEING HOMES THAT, UM, THAT DON'T HAVE A WORK IN SMOKE ALARM.
AND THEN 20, 21, THAT'S HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT, UH, YOU DO HAVE TO REPLACE BATTERIES AND CHANGE YOUR BATTERIES WHEN THE TIME CHANGES.
AND WE AT LEAST ONCE ANNUALLY AND, OR, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY REPLACE YOUR SMOKE ALARMS ONCE EVERY 10 YEARS BECAUSE THEY DON'T LAST FOREVER.
SO IT'S, IT'S CONSTANT MAINTENANCE, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
JESSICA RICE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES.
I'M LATE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES JUST TO INTRODUCE OUR FOUR NEW EMPLOYEES
[3. 5161: Introduction of New County Staff]
THAT STARTED WITH US IN SEPTEMBER.UM, THE FIRST TWO ARE ACTUALLY FROM ANIMAL PROTECTION, ANIMAL CARE AND PROTECTION DEPARTMENT.
UM, OUR FIRST NEW EMPLOYEE LATITIA ATKINS.
UM, SHE JOINED US ON SEPTEMBER 1ST.
SHE IS AN ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICER.
SHE DID WORK FOR THE CAPITAL ONE CORRECTIONS FACILITY FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND SHE IS ALSO WORKING TO EARN HER ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE AS A VET TECH.
UM, AND SHE IS A GREAT ASSET TO THE DEPARTMENT.
WE ALSO HAD A NEW SHELTER ATTENDANT JOIN US, AND SHE IS NOT HERE TODAY.
HER NAME IS JEANNIE LARSON AND SHE IS SOMEBODY WITH DECADES OF EXPERIENCE ACTUALLY WORKING IN WILDLIFE RESCUE.
UM, SO SHE COMES TO US WITH A, WITH A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE AND HAS BEEN FANTASTIC SINCE THE DAY SHE GOT THERE.
UM, OUR NEXT NEW EMPLOYEE, ELLIOT WAF, HE IS WORKING IN IT RIGHT NOW AS A SUPPORT SYSTEM ANALYST HEALS A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN COMPUTER INFORMATION SCIENCE, AND HE WORKED FIVE YEARS AS A SENIOR ID SPECIALIST FOR THE UNIVERSAL HEALTH SYSTEM.
I BELIEVE HE WAS IN THE BACK AS WELL.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE DO HAVE AN ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY, WHICH IS NEW.
IT'S A NEW POSITION THAT WAS APPROVED BY YOU ALL AND THE F Y 22 BUDGET TO SUPPORT OUR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
UM, SHE STARTED IN SEPTEMBER AND SHE ACTUALLY WAS THE ASSISTANT COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY FOR HENRICO COUNTY.
DO YOU MIND HAVING THESE FOLKS STAND UP JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT WHO WE HAVE? WE HAVE ELLIOT AND LATRICIA
UM, NEXT ITEM IS INFORMATION ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
UM, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY, PAGE 59 OF THE PACKET.
[4. 5141: Planning and Development Activity]
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THOSE ITEMS, WE CAN FEEL THEM, BUT IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON.ANOTHER NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ANOTHER INFORMATION ITEM ACCOUNTS PAYABLE, THAT'S PAGE 62,
[5. 5158: Accounts Payable]
AND THEN WE WILL, UM, GO INTO BOARD REPORTS, UH, STARTING TO MY RIGHT.SO, AND THE CBTA, AS I MENTIONED A COUPLE OF
[6. Board Reports]
MONTHS AGO, UM, I WAS CHAIRING A SUBCOMMITTEE TO SET UP THE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURE FOR THE NEW CENTRAL VIRGINIA TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY, WHICH IS GOING TO BE FUNDING ROAD PROJECTS BASED ON SOME NEW TAXES THAT WERE IMPLEMENTED.AND THE SUBCOMMITTEE WAS CHARGED WAS TO COME UP WITH A STRUCTURE AND A TIMELINE FORWARD.
AND WE PRESENTED THAT TO THE CHAIR AND ARE WAITING FOR THE INSTRUCTIONS SO THAT OUR ORGANIZATION IS GETTING HIS FOUNDATION AND IT WAS PROUD TO BE A PART OF HELPING TO BUILD THAT.
MR. JEREMY, AND THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE, UH, SCHEDULED NEXT MONTH, I BELIEVE ON THE 23RD TO, UH, REVIEW THE AUDIT, WHICH IS DUE BY NOVEMBER 30TH.
UM, THE VOTING ON THE REFERENDUM IS ALREADY UNDERWAY, UH, ABSENTEE AND IN-PERSON VOTING.
UM, AND WE'LL HAVE MORE TO REPORT NEXT MONTH AFTER WE HAVE THE FINAL COUNT.
THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON, AND ON OUR TPO RICHMOND, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION
[01:20:01]
YESTERDAY, THE POLICY BOARD VOTED TO APPROVE THE CONNECT RVA 2045 PLAN, THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN.THAT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS IN THE WORKS.
UM, SO, UH, W I THINK GENERALLY PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT IT.
UM, I THINK THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED, UH, I CAN READ THEM AND I'M THINKING AMERICANS ARE FALLING OUT OF LOVE WITH THE CAR OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A PUSHBACK FROM PEOPLE SAYING WE NEED TO DO MORE WITH PEDESTRIAN AND BIKES.
BUT THE FACT THAT MATTER IS, UM, 33 OF THE 34 PROJECTS OF THE ALTERNATIVE BIKE PET PROJECTS ARE IN THIS PLAN.
AND THE NICE THING ABOUT THIS PLAN, THESE THINGS ARE THEY'RE REALISTIC.
THEY'RE THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE FUNDED AND DONE IN THE NEXT 20, 25 YEARS.
UH, SO IT'S JUST THAT HIGHWAYS COSTS SO MUCH MORE THAN, THAN, UH, BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN ALTERNATIVES, BUT THE PLAN DOES FOCUS ON ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
AND, UH, AND THERE'S THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENED IS, UH, THE BOARD YESTERDAY APPROVED THE STUDY INITIAL STUDY FOR THE INTERCHANGE 2 88 INTERCHANGE BETWEEN BROAD STREET AND, UH, TUCKAHOE CREEK PARKWAY, UM, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE ABOUT BETWEEN THOSE TWO IS WHAT YOU WOULD CONNECT TO THE LOWER PART OF THE FUTURE WILKES RIDGE PARKWAY TO THE EAST.
SO, UM, THAT'S ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, ABOUT A HUNDRED, UH, 400 FROM THE REGION AND A HUNDRED FROM THE STATE.
THAT WAS THE ONE THING YESTERDAY THAT AFFECTED GOOCHLAND, BUT THE CONNECT RVA, YOU CAN GO TO CONNECT RVA 2040 FIVE.ORG AND READ ALL ABOUT THE REGION'S NEXT 20 YEAR PLAN.
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, ROMAN NUMERAL 11, IT'S A CONSENT AGENDA.
AND I WAS JUST REALIZING, I NEED TO REMEMBER TO ASK IF ANYBODY WANTS TO PULL ANYTHING
[XI. Consent Agenda]
OUT OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, BUT WE HAVE ONE ITEM.SO DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PUT IT OUT FOR SEPARATE REVIEW? SO MR. ALVAREZ, WILL YOU GO OVER THE ONE ITEM AND CONSENT AGENDA? OKAY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, THIS ITEM IS TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 3RD, TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING OUR CODE, UH, RELATED TO DOGS KILLING OR INJURING OR CHASING AGRICULTURAL ANIMALS.
WHILE WE FOUND THIS, THAT OUR ORDINANCE DID NOT MATCH STATE CODE.
SO THE PLAN IS FOR US TO COME IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STATE.
AND I SHOULD HAVE TOSSED THIS TO OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, BUT THIS IS JUST TO BRING US IN COMPLIANCE.
SHE ALWAYS BRINGS ME IN COMPLIANCE AND OUR COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY AND ANIMAL PROTECTION, UH, REQUEST AND SUPPORT CHANGE.
THANK YOU, BOTH, UM, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS SHAREABLE, MR. PETERSON? YOU, YOU WANT TO FEEL THIS ONE? YOU ALWAYS WANT TO REMEMBER BRINGING OUT COVID AND COMPLIANCE.
UM, NOW AS I UNDERSTAND, THIS IS A REQUEST TO SET.
WELL, DO YOU WANT TO STILL MAKE THE MOTION OR WAIT, TELL ME THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM.
YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT.
WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM AS PRESENTED SECOND.
I'LL CATCH YOU NEXT MONTH WHEN WE ACTUALLY PASSED.
THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND OVER THERE, MR. SPOONFLOWER ALL IN FAVOR.
UM, SET UP FOR, IS EVERYBODY GOOD? OR DO WE WANT TO TAKE A BREAK? YES.
UH, ROMAN NUMERAL 12, MS. HIND SEAT.
[XII. New Business]
YOU COME TO US ONCE A YEAR, RIGHT? YEP.IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE GO SO FAST.
IT SEEMS LIKE I WAS JUST HEARING YOU.
WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND MR. ALVAREZ.
[1. Presentation by Central Virginia Waste Management Authority (CVWMA)]
AGAIN, ONCE A YEAR.UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO COME OUT AND, AND, UH, TALK TRASH OR, UH, IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE, UM, I KNOW YOU ALL KNOW WHO WE ARE, WHAT WE DO, SO I WON'T SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME DOING THAT.
[01:25:01]
TO, UH, THANK, UH, WENDY GRADY AND DWAYNE JONES, WHO WERE YOUR REPRESENTATIVES ON OUR BOARD AND TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHO WE WORK WITH, UM, DAY IN AND DAY OUT.UM, AND A LITTLE SHOUT OUT TO MR. DRUM DRUMRIGHT, WHO I THINK IS BACK THERE, WHO SHARES ALL OF OUR INFORMATION ON YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS AS WELL TO HELP YOUR CITIZENS ON THE, ON THE RECYCLING FRONT, FOR SURE.
AND, UM, JUST A REMINDER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE PROVIDING RECYCLING SOLID WASTE SERVICES TO ALL 13 JURISDICTIONS, UM, BASED ON WHAT BEST FITS YOUR NEEDS.
SO YOU'RE NOT LOCKED INTO PARTICIPATING OR DOING ANY OF THESE PROGRAMS. UM, WE DON'T DO THEM OURSELVES.
WE CONTRACT EVERYTHING OUT TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, UM, TO GET AN, UH, AN ECONOMIES OF SCALE.
UH, WE FEEL LIKE THEY DO, THEY DO IT BEST, THEY KNOW THEIR BUSINESS.
AND, UM, UH, AND WE WERE CONTRACTING ON BEHALF OF MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS TO ACHIEVE THAT ECONOMIES OF SCALE.
UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP AND HOW IT WORKS.
WE'RE CONTRACTING AGAIN WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, LIKE WASTE MANAGEMENT, WHO, UM, DOES THE HAULING IN, UH, DISPOSAL AT THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS AND, UM, TFC RECYCLING WHO PROVIDES OUR RECYCLING SERVICES.
AND IN TURN, WE HAVE A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH YOU ALL TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE CONTRACTS.
SO WE'RE PROCURING NEGOTIATING, ADMINISTERING THOSE CONTRACTS, UM, ON YOUR BEHALF ALSO PROVIDING CUSTOMER SERVICE AND EDUCATION AND OUTREACH, UM, AS WELL, WE'VE HAVE A LOT GOING ON.
UM, RECENTLY WE'VE HAD, UM, PUT OUR THREE LARGEST CONTRACTS OUT FOR PROCUREMENT, UH, THIS YEAR.
UM, ONE OF OUR BIG ONES IS THE, IS THE HAULING AND DISPOSAL FROM THE CONVENIENCE CENTER OF THE TRASH.
CURRENTLY WASTE MANAGEMENT IS, UM, DOING THAT, UH, FOR US AND FOR YOU ALL, UH, THAT CONTRACT, THE INITIAL TERM ENDS JUNE 30TH, 2023.
SO WE HAVE ALREADY PUT THE PROCUREMENT OUT, UM, AND IT'S A LARGE ENOUGH CONTRACT THAT WE WANTED TO PUT THE PROCUREMENT OUT EARLY, JUST SO THAT WE CAN ATTRACT, UM, OTHERS FOR COMPETITION, UM, AS WELL AS GIVE ANY NEW COMPANY TIME TO GEAR UP, BUY EQUIPMENT, UM, UH, THAT SORT OF THING.
SO WE SHOULD THE PROCUREMENT BACK IN JULY, WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED PROPOSALS AND RESPONSES.
UM, TWAIN JONES IS ON OUR COM SELECTION COMMITTEE FROM GOOCHLAND TO, UH, REVIEW REVIEW THOSE PROPOSALS AND AN AWARD WILL BE COMING OUT OUT SOON, UM, FOR THAT.
CAN I JUST GET YOUR PAWS? THAT'S INTERESTING, JUST BECAUSE AREN'T WE IN KIND OF A VOLATILE MARKET.
SO YOU'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO BID ON A CONTRACT, THAT'S GOING TO START JULY 1ST OF 20, 23.
DID YOU GET A LOT OF RESPONSES? I JUST WONDER HOW SOMEBODY IN THIS KIND OF, BECAUSE THE PART I ALWAYS LIKE ABOUT YOUR REPORTS OR ALL OF IT, ALL OF IT, BUT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE KIND OF THE GLOBAL, YOU KNOW, IT KIND OF GIVES US INSIGHT INTO, I THINK THE ECONOMY SOMETIMES WHEN WE TALK ABOUT RECYCLING, THE PRICE PRICES OF PAPER AND THAT SORT OF STUFF.
SO I JUST, I, MY SENSE IN THE YEARS I'VE HEARD YOU IS IT'S KIND OF A VOLATILE MARKET.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW SOMEBODY PUTS A BID IN FOR SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, YOU, I GUESS THE, THE REQUEST INCLUDES X A QUANTIFIABLE AMOUNT.
SO SOMEBODY JUST HAS TO BE IN THE BUSINESS AND HAVE A SENSE OF DO THEIR BEST TO SEE WHAT WHAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING AND WHAT TO RIGHT.
AND, AND SOME OF THEM, UM, AND WE TOLD THEM THAT THEY COULD PROPOSE ON AS IF THE CONTRACT WAS COMING UP NEXT YEAR, UM, BECAUSE WE WOULD NORMALLY DO THEM A YEAR TO 18 MONTHS IN ADVANCE ANYWAY.
UM, SO, AND THEN THEY ALSO INCLUDED IN THEIR PROPOSAL, HAVE THEY IN ANY CPI INCREASES BETWEEN NOW AND THE CONTRACT TERM, YOU KNOW, AS INFLATION IS RISING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, SO THEY CAN FACTOR THAT IN THAT THEY MIGHT CORRECT.
CAUSE YOU'LL SEE, NEXT WE DID THE SAME THING ON THE RECYCLING CONTRACT, UM, AS WELL.
SO OUR BIG CONTRACT FOR THE CURBSIDE RECYCLING AND THEN ALSO THE PROCESSING FOR THE DROP-OFF, THE MATERIAL THAT'S COLLECTED AT THE COMMAND CENTERS FOR RECYCLING.
UM, WE ALSO, THAT ONE IS ALSO UP JUNE 30TH, 2020, 23.
BUT AGAIN, THERE ARE, THERE ARE 300,000 HOUSEHOLDS IN THE CURBSIDE RECYCLING PROGRAM, PRETTY LARGE CONTRACTS.
WE'LL TAKE SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, ROUTING TAKES 30 OR SO TRUCKS TO COLLECT, UM, PROCESSING FACILITY, ET CETERA.
SO WE DID ALREADY, UM, PUT THAT ONE OUT AND WE ACTUALLY PUT THAT ONE OUT LAST YEAR, WE WORKED FOR THE BETTER PART OF 10 MONTHS OR SO WITH OUR COMMITTEE AND OUR GROUP ON DRAFTING A PROCUREMENT, UM, TO INCORPORATE WHAT, UM, WHAT WE WANTED AS A REGION AND WHAT EACH INDIVIDUAL LOCALITY, UH, UH, WANTED INCLUDED AS WELL.
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AWARD THAT CONTRACT BACK TO TFC IN JUNE, THE BOARD AWARDED THAT, UM, THAT CONTRACT.SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DRAFTING IT AND WORKING OUT THE SPECIFIC TERMS, NAME, COMPANY, DOING IT NOW.
AND, UM, THEIR, UH, THEIR PLANS ARE TO BUILD A NEW, UH, STATE-OF-THE-ART, UH, MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY OR RECYCLING FACILITY.
HOW'RE I KNOW YOU WERE THERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UH, TOURING THE RECYCLING FACILITY.
SO IT'S ALL GONNA IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS IS GOING TO BE BRAND NEW AND STATE-OF-THE-ART SO YOU ALL HAVE TO COME OUT AND CHECK IT OUT WHEN IT, UM, UH, WHEN WE GET THERE.
UM, SO WE DID, UH, SO WE HAVE PUT THAT THE PROCUREMENT OUT AGAIN, THE CONTRACT STARTS IN JULY 1ST AND, UM, WE'RE IN, UH, IN A PARTICULAR, UH, INTERESTING TIME NOW WITH, UM, UH, WITH GETTING EQUIPMENT, UM, GETTING EQUIPMENT IN, AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY ORDERED NEW TRUCKS FOR THE NEW PROGRAM BECAUSE THEY ARE TAKING 12 MONTHS TO 18 MONTHS TO COME IN NOW WITH SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES THAT EVERYONE IS EXPERIENCING AND, AND, AND VARIOUS DIFFERENT INDUSTRIES.
SO, UM, SO WE'VE ALREADY STARTED PLANNING FOR THE NEW CONTRACT IN THE NEW CONTRACT.
EVERYONE WILL GET ONE OF THE LARGE RECYCLING CANS.
UM, YOU KNOW, SOME FOLKS ARE STILL USING THE SMALL BINS, UM, FOR EVERY OTHER WEEK COLLECTION.
SO EVERYONE WILL GET A LARGE CAN.
AND AFTER, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE DISRUPTION AND WHAT WE SAW WITH CHINA, BANNING, UH, RECYCLABLE MATERIALS AND WHAT HAPPENED GLOBALLY WITH SOME OF THE COMMODITIES, PARTICULARLY PAPER AND CARDBOARD FOR US, UM, WE KNEW COSTS WOULD BE GOING UP.
SO WE'RE WANTING TO GET AHEAD OF THAT AS WELL, FOR PLANNING PURPOSES, FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES, FOR LOCALITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, AND SPEAKING OF RECYCLING MARKETS, UM, UH, YOU HEARD FROM ME LAST YEAR AND PROBABLY THE YEAR BEFORE THAT ABOUT, UM, THE IMPACT CHINA HAD ON, UH, BANNING CERTAIN MATERIALS, WHICH OVERSATURATED THE MARKET, WHICH DROVE, UM, PAPER PRICES DOWN, OR WELL PRICES FOR A LOT OF THE COMMODITIES DOWN.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT BOTTOM LINE, THERE IS MIXED PAPER AND THE TOP LINE IS CARDBOARD AND WE WERE AT ALL TIME LOWS AND THAT THOSE LOWS HAVE LINGERED FOR TWO YEARS, UM, PRIOR TO COVID AND THEN COVID HIT.
AND WE STARTED TO SEE AN UPTICK IN THE MARKETS GENERALLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE DEMAND WENT UP FOR PAPER TOWELS, UM, UH, TOILET PAPER, THINGS LIKE THAT, UH, THE DEMAND FOR RECYCLED GOODS, UH, WENT UP AS WELL.
SO THAT DROVE SOME OF THE, THE PRICES UP.
AND NOW WE'RE ALMOST AT, AT ALL TIME HIGHS WHERE, YOU KNOW, MIXED PAPER IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR WAS AT ZERO OR SELLING FOR ZERO.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SWITCH THERE AND, AND THE GOOD THING FOR US IS WE HAVE INCLUDED IN OUR CONTRACT SHARING IN, UM, SHARING IN REVENUE, RECEIVED FROM THE RECYCLABLE MATERIALS, UH, WITH OUR CONTRACTOR.
AND THEN IN TURN BACK TO YOU ALL.
SO WHERE WE WENT FROM PAYING $30 A TON IN FEBRUARY, MARCH OF LAST YEAR, WE'RE NOW GETTING $50 A TON BACK.
SO IT WAS AN $80 PER TON SWING IN A CONSTANT REDUCTION FOR, FOR OUR LOCALITIES.
SO, UM, SO THAT'S A POSITIVE GRAY LINE.
NEWSPRINT, WHICH SURPRISINGLY, UH, THEY CALL IT, UM, SORTED RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT'S MOSTLY NEWSPRINT.
SO THE, UM, THE, UH, THE DEMAND FOR NEWSPRINT HAS ACTUALLY GONE UP AND WELL SUPPLY IS GOING DOWN, BUT, UM, SO THE DEMAND HAS GONE UP.
THE OTHER BIG THING WE'RE WORKING ON IS, OH, I'M SORRY.
FRANKLY, IF YOU JUST GO BACK, YOU MENTIONED THAT $80 SWING FROM PAYING $30 TO GETTING $50.
I THINK WHEN YOU WERE PAYING TO HAVE IT TAKEN AWAY, ONE OF YOUR BUMPER STICKERS WAS WHEN IN DOUBT, THROW IT OUT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE IT TAKEN AWAY, OR YOU NEVER APPEALING THAT.
I TAKE THAT BUMPER STICKER OFF MY CAR NOW RECYCLE.
THE, UM, WE SHIFTED OUR MESSAGES, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE CHINA IMPACT TOO, BECAUSE THE REASON THAT THEY, UM, WERE RESTRICTING WHAT WAS COMING, WHAT THEY WERE IMPORTING INTO THE COUNTRY, IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS, THE RECYCLABLES WERE CONTAMINATED WITH THINGS THAT WERE NOT RECYCLABLE OR PLASTIC BAGS WERE GETTING IN WITH BALES OF PAPER AND THEY COULDN'T, UM, THEY WEREN'T AS RECYCLABLE.
SO, UM, AFTER THAT, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO CLEAN UP THE RECYCLING STREAM, YOU KNOW, WHEREAS WE WERE PROMOTING RECYCLE MORE RECYCLE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.
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UM, MORE QUALITY FOCUS VERSUS QUANTITY FOCUS.SO LESS IS BETTER IF IT'S NOT RECYCLABLE, DON'T PUT IT IN THE RECYCLING CONTAINER.
SO THROW OUT THE NON-RECYCLABLE.
SO YES, SO YOUR BUMPER STICKER IS NOT COMPLETELY WRONG.
YOU HAVE SOME WHITE OUT AND MODIFY IT A LITTLE BIT TO SAY THROUGHOUT THE STUFF YOU SHOULD THROW OUT AND RECYCLE THIS STUFF.
YOU'RE NOT IN CHARGE OF WRITING BUMPER STICKERS.
UH, SO THE OTHER BIG THING WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH OUR BOARD IS THE STRATEGIC PLANNING PROCESS.
WE HAD A PLAN IN PLACE THAT WE DEVELOPED FIVE YEARS AGO, UM, THAT REALLY HAD A FINITE PERIOD, UM, AND IN 2020.
SO WE HAVE BEEN, UH, WORKING ON THAT PROCESS AND UPDATING AND REFRESHING, UH, WHERE WE WANT TO BE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS, WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING WITH OUR WASTE AND, AND BETTER MANAGING OUR WASTE.
UH, WE HIRED SOLID WASTE CONSULTANTS TO HELP US PLAN, UM, FOR, UH, FOR OUR WASTE AS THE, THE LANDFILL LANDSCAPING LANDSCAPE IS CHANGING, UM, ALL THE TIME AND IS GOING TO BE CHANGING HERE IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
UM, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PLANNING FOR WHERE OUR WASTE IS GOING TO GO RECYCLING MORE, UM, NOT TO CONTRADICT WHAT I JUST SAID ABOUT THROW IT OUT, BUT, UH, THE, UH, UM, BUT WE WANT TO KEEP, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, KEEP AS MUCH OUT OF THE LANDFILLS IS AS, AS POSSIBLE.
UM, SO WE'VE ENGAGED OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UM, COUNTY, CITY LEADERS, AND S UM, STAKEHOLDERS IN THE PROCESS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT THAT HERE AND THEN OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS AND, UM, GET TO WORK.
SO NEXT YEAR I'LL BE PRESENTING ON THAT AND OUR, WHAT OUR GOALS ARE AND, AND HOW WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER TO ACHIEVE THOSE, THOSE GOALS.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A QUESTION TO FOLLOW ON WHAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING ABOUT, UM, MAKE SURE YOU THROW OUT WHAT SHOULD BE THROWN OUT, WHAT TO RECYCLE, WHAT SHOULD BE RECYCLED IT'S SOMETIMES IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME SHIFTS AT THE MARGIN IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU SHOULD THROW OUT, WHAT YOU SHOULDN'T LIKE, THE PLASTIC CAPS ON YOUR PLASTIC BOTTLES ARE, ARE THERE CHANGES OR REVISIONS THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU SEE COMING FORWARD, GOING FORWARD THAT WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF SO THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY OR THEY'RE SHIFTING OR CHANGING RULES ON THAT? UM, NOT IN THE SHORT-TERM NO, WE'RE, UM, THERE, OUR CONTRACTOR IS STILL ABLE TO RECYCLE ALL OF THE MATERIALS THAT WE'RE WE ARE COLLECTING.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE PUT THAT OUT IN THE PROCUREMENT AS WELL FOR, UM, FOR COMPANIES TO TELL US WHAT IS THE BEST MIX OF MATERIALS.
AND, UM, UM, TFC HAS PROPOSED ON KEEPING THE MATERIALS THE SAME.
THEY'VE GOT MARKETS AND OUTLETS FOR ALL OF THEM AND, UM, AND THE ECONOMICS SEEM TO BE TO WORKING AND GETTING BETTER.
SO YEAH, SO NOT IN THE SHORT TERM, BUT AS THEY'RE VOLATILE, THAT COULD CHANGE CERTAINLY.
OH, THE ONE THING I WILL SAY IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TELLING FOLKS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, PIZZA BOXES ARE NOT RECYCLABLE BECAUSE OF THE GREASE AND THE, AND FOOD CONTAMINATION AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THERE'VE BEEN SOME STUDIES DONE THAT THEY, THEY ARE CARDBOARD AND THEY ARE RECYCLABLE AND THAT AS LONG AS YOU CLEAN THEM OUT AND THERE'S NO FOOD OR NO WAXY PAPER IN THERE, UM, THEY CAN BE PUT INTO YOUR RECYCLING BIN.
I THINK THAT'S THE KIND OF THING.
AND SO I GUESS MAYBE EDUCATION IS A PIECE OF THIS SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK GENERALLY PEOPLE WANT TO BE COMPLIANT AND THEY WANT TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND THEY JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.
SO IF YOU CAN THAT EDUCATION PIECE, SO MAYBE YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE BRINGING OUT LARGER CONTAINERS OR SOMETHING, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE AN EDUCATION.
AND WE'LL MAKE SURE ALL THE GUIDELINES ARE THERE PREFERRED EVERYBODY.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
WE'RE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF A PRESENTATION.
I DON'T THINK WE'D HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR EVENING.
HOPEFULLY SOONER, MR. DURHAM IS WORKING AS A WAY UP HERE FOR THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, PAUL DRUM, RIGHT COMMUNITY AFFAIRS
[2. 5155: Presentation of the Proposed 2022 Legislative Agenda]
MANAGER.IT'S MY PLEASURE TO TALK TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT YOUR A PROPOSED 2022 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, UM, AS YOU WERE A CALL, UH, AND AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, THE COUNTY HELD OUR
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ANNUAL DISCUSSION WITH OUR LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION BACK ON SEPTEMBER 14TH AND HAD A VERY LIVELY DISCUSSION.UM, TALKING ABOUT A NUMBER OF D OR DIFFERENT TOPICS.
AND OUT OF THAT HAS COME OUR PROPOSED 2022 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
SO TODAY WE WILL GO THROUGH THE, UH, JUST A HIGH LEVEL OF THE DRAFT AND THEN TAKE FEEDBACK ON THIS AND BRING THIS BACK TO THE BOARD FOR ADOPTION AT YOUR NEXT MEETING IN NOVEMBER, OR WHENEVER YOU'RE READY TO ADOPT IT.
UM, IT INCLUDES, UH, PRIORITY REQUESTS FROM THE COUNTY, UH, COUNTY POLICY POSITIONS, AS WELL AS THEN.
WE ALSO HAVE THE PRIORITY REQUESTS FROM THE SCHOOLS.
UH, TODAY WE'RE GOING TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE COUNTIES, UH, PO UH, PRIORITY REQUESTS AS WELL AS IN OUR COUNTY POSITIONS.
AND, UH, I WILL GO OVER AT THE VERY END, SO YOU CAN SEE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM THE SCHOOLS ARE READY.
UM, I WILL NOTE, WE HAVE HANDOUTS OF THIS SLIDE, AS WELL AS THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA AT YOUR SEAT AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM AS WELL.
UM, IN THE PACKET WAS THE 20, 21 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THAT THE BOARD ADOPTED LAST NOVEMBER, OR ACTUALLY LAST DECEMBER.
SO MOVING ON, AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE A PRIORITY REQUEST.
WE HAVE FOUR PRIORITY REQUESTS TO FOCUS AROUND MARIJUANA.
UH, ONE RELATES TO, UH, UH, GIVING AUTHORITY TO PROHIBIT OR REGULATE, UH, BINARY, EXPLOSIVE KITS.
UM, AND THEN THE THIRD RELATES TO THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE COMPENSATION AND EXPENSE OF THE ELECTORAL BOARD.
UH, WE HAVE IN OUR POLICY POSITION, WE HAVE SEVEN POLICY POSITION GROUPS THAT THEN HAVE, UH, LITTLE HEADINGS UNDERNEATH EACH ONE OF THOSE.
SO MOVING FORWARD WITH OUR FIRST PRIORITY REQUEST, IT IS TO PROHIBIT MARIJUANA RETAIL STORES, UNLESS APPROVED BY LOCAL REFERENDUM.
UH, WHAT THIS IS, IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
SO WE CAN RIGHT NOW PROHIBIT RETAIL MARIJUANA STORES, UNLESS THE BOARD OR LOCAL GOVERNING AUTHORITY CHOOSES TO HOLD A REFERENDUM TO ALLOW THEM HOW IT IS WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, AS PART OF THE CODE IS THAT THEY ARE, UH, ALLOWED UNLESS THE BOARD WERE TO ACT TO PROHIBIT THEM.
UH, WE BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE THAT WAY, THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO INCUR A TIME AND EXPENSE TO PROHIBIT SOMETHING INSTEAD, UH, GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO INCUR THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO TOY ALLOW IT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE LOCAL TAX REVENUE OFF OF THAT ALSO.
SO THAT, THAT CHANGES THAT DECISION.
UM, THAT WAS A CODE SECTION THAT HAD BEEN IN OR ADOPTED AT THIS PAST SESSION, BUT IT DOES REQUIRE, UH, PORTIONS OF IT DOES REQUIRE A REENACTMENT.
AND SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR THAT.
I WILL SAY THAT THE INITIAL MARIJUANA LEGISLATION DID NOT INCLUDE, THEY INCLUDED OPTIONS FOR THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODIES TO ALLOW IT BY ORDINANCE OR TO DO IT BY QUALIFIED VOTER, UH, PETITION FOR A REFERENDUM.
AND THAT GOT CHANGED IN THE PROCESS OF THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS TO WHERE IT IS NOW, WHICH IS IT IS ALLOWED UNLESS YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO HAVE A REFERENDUM AND OPPOSE IT.
THE SECOND ONE IS TO PROHIBIT MARIJUANA CULTIVATION FACILITIES FROM SELLING DIRECTLY TO CUSTOMERS.
UM, SO WE'RE REQUESTING, UH, ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO EXISTING LEGISLATION TO REMOVE SALES DIRECTLY TO CUSTOMERS FROM THE, THE DEFINITION OF MARIJUANA CULTIVATION FACILITIES.
RIGHT NOW, THE DEFINITION IN THE STATE LAW DEFINES THE IT THAT THEY CAN PERMIT THE SALE OF IMMATURE PLANTS IN MARIJUANA SEEDS TO CONSUMERS, UH, AS A PART OF WHAT THEY CAN DO.
UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY COUNTER TO, AGAIN, WHAT I JUST TALKED ABOUT WHERE YOU, IT, THE BOARD HAS TO HOLD A REFERENDUM TO, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH, OPPOSE OR NOT TO ALLOW IT PROHIBIT, UH, MARIJUANA SALES.
AND SO THAT'S, UH, KIND OF VIOLATES THAT EXISTING INTENT AND SPIRIT OF THOSE REFERENDUM AS WELL AS THEN, EVEN IF WE DO THAT, IF WE DON'T CHANGE THAT DEFINITION IT, OR IF WE DON'T, EVEN IF WE TAKE THAT ACTION, THE DEFINITION DOES NOT CHANGE BECAUSE THAT IS A SEPARATE DEFINITION FROM RETAIL STORES.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED TO PURCHASE, UH, SEEDS OR MATERIALS FOR GROWING IN THEIR PERSONAL USE SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH RETAIL SALES FOR THAT.
AND AGAIN, WITH THIS LEGISLATION, THE INITIAL LEGISLATION
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DID NOT PERMIT OR AUTHORIZED SALE DIRECTLY TO CONSUMERS, BUT IT GOT CHANGED IN THE PROCESS TO WHERE NOW ALLOWS THAT TO HAPPEN.MOVING ON TO OUR THIRD ONE, WHICH IS TO AMEND THE CODE OF VIRGINIA TO GIVE LOCALITIES THE ABILITY TO PROHIBIT OR REGULATE THE USE OF BINARY EXPLOSIVE KITS THAT CONTAIN AN OXIDIZER A FUEL SOURCE.
UH, SO WHAT YOU MAY HAVE HEARD COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS TANNERITE THAT HAS THE NAME BRAND, BUT SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT HERE.
UM, WE'RE ASKING TO PROHIBIT THE USE OF THAT THESE TYPE OF KITS, UM, OR SIMILAR KIT TO WHAT A TANNERITE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS, UM, THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE EXPLOSIVE NATURE OF IT, THE NOISE, AND COMING OUT OF THAT, I WILL NOTE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAD BEEN BROUGHT IN 2019.
IT GOT LEFT IN A HOUSE COMMITTEE, UH, AS WELL.
UH, WE BROUGHT THIS TO OUR LEGISLATURE LAST YEAR, OUR TARGET DELEGATION, AND WE DID NOT HAVE ANY TAKERS TO PURSUE THIS AS A PIECE OF LEGISLATION, BUT WE ARE BRINGING THAT BACK AGAIN THIS YEAR.
WE'VE, UH, HAVE SOME PROPOSED LEGISLATION FOR IT.
WE'VE ALSO, UH, ADJUSTED DEFINITION.
AND SO WE'LL BE SUGGESTING THAT AS ANOTHER ITEM FOR OUR DELEGATION TO CONSIDER MOVING ON TO OUR FIRST FOURTH ONE IS THE REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE COMPENSATION AND EXPENSIVE THE ELECTORAL BOARD.
UM, WE'RE COMING BACK AND ASKING AGAIN FOR THE FULL FUNDING AND COMPENSATION, WE'VE MADE PROGRESS IN THE PAST.
UM, GETTING TO A POINT OF WHERE THEY'RE HOMELESS FULLY FUNDED FOR.
WE STILL HAVE ABOUT 40,000 IN THE PAST YEAR, WE HAD 40,000 A DOLLAR WE HAD TO SPEND TOWARDS THE COMPENSATION AND EXPENSE.
SO WE'RE ASKING THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO CONTINUE TO, UH, AS PART OF THEIR BUDGET PROCESS TO GO AHEAD AND FULLY FUNDED WITH THEIR, WITH STATE FUNDS.
AND SO THAT WE CAN, UH, FINALLY CLOSE THAT GAP.
SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HAD ON OUR LIST FOR A LONG, LONG TIME MOVING INTO OUR POLICY POSITION.
OUR FIRST POLICY POSITION, UH, IS AROUND THE AREA OF BROADBAND.
SO W WE SUPPORT THE INCREASED FUNDING, EXPANDED EFFORTS, IMPLEMENTATION OF NEW TECHNOLOGY SO THAT WE CAN EXPAND, UH, CITIZENS ACCESS TO HIGH-SPEED BROADBAND INTERNET.
AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, CONTINUING TO FULLY FUND THE BODY GRANTS UNTIL WE GET FULL UNIVERSAL SERVICE IN GOOCHLAND, AS YOU'VE HEARD AT OUR PAST COUPLE MEETINGS, WE'RE WELL ON THE WAY OF PROGRESS IN GOOCHLAND, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP PUTTING IT ON OUR DELEGATION AND KEEPING IT IN FRONT OF THEM, THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR US AND THAT, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S FULLY FUNDED UNTIL WE HAVE REACHED UNIVERSAL SERVICE.
WE ALSO INCLUDE SUPPORT FOR NEW TECHNOLOGIES, FOR WIRELESS COMMUNICATION, TO BE ABLE TO PUT UP TO ANTENNAS AND STRUCTURES, AS WELL AS IN NEW POLICIES AND TECHNOLOGIES THAT WOULD BRING THIS ABOUT.
SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING NEW THAT COMES OUT, LET'S ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.
SO WE CAN, AGAIN, REACH THESE UNSERVED AND UNDERSERVED AREAS.
OUR SECOND AREA IS FOCUSED ON THE, UH, STATE BUDGET AND FISCAL PRACTICES OF THE COMMONWEALTH.
UM, WE, AGAIN, CONTINUED TO REMIND OUR DELEGATION.
WE WANT TO FULLY FUND THE VIRGINIA RETIREMENT SYSTEM.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR COMMONWEALTH'S RAINY DAY FUNDS AND CASH RESERVES ARE FULLY STOCKED READY FOR WHEN WE HAVE ANOTHER DOWNTURN COMMON, UM, THAT WAY WE'RE NOT HAVING TO LOOK AT CUTS IN THE, HOPEFULLY THE STATE WON'T, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO LOOK AT CUTS, AND THEN WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE EFFORTS TO SUPPORT AND STRENGTHEN OUR RANKING FOR DOING BUSINESS IN VIRGINIA, JUST LIKE HERE IN GOOCHLAND, BE SEEN AS A GOOD PLACE TO DO BUSINESS.
OUR THIRD ONE FOCUSES ON UNFUNDED MANDATES AROUND UNFUNDED MANDATES, AND ALSO THE ELIMINATION OF THOSE WITH SUNSET CLAUSES.
UH, SO, UH, AGAIN, REMIND OUR DELEGATION, INTRODUCE ANY BILLS THAT MIGHT HAVE A FISCAL IMPACT TO LOCAL FISCAL IMPACT AT THE START OF THE SESSION.
THAT WAY WE HAVE A TIME TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT IT AND BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK BACK TO THEM ABOUT THAT INSTEAD OF SUBMITTING IT LATER INTO THE SESSION WHERE IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO GET TO IT, AS WE'RE DEALING WITH EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON, UH, CONTINUE TO, UH, SUPPORT OUR EXISTING AUTHORITY FOR LOCAL BUDGET DECISIONS.
AND, YOU KNOW, DO NOT SHIFT FUNDING, UH, POSE, SHIFTING THE FUNDING OVER RESPONSIBILITIES TO US.
IF IT'S A STATE RESPONSIBILITY, THE STATE SHOULD FUND THAT, UM, AND OPPOSE ANY POLICIES OR REGULATIONS, ANYTHING THAT CAN REALLY BURDEN ROBERTA SUN TO US AS A LOCALITY.
AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN WITH OUR, UH, OUR ABILITIES.
DON'T GIVE US MORE, UH, JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN DO THAT.
AND THEN THE FINAL IS OPPOSED TO ANY CHANGES TO OUR CHILDREN SERVICES ACT RELATED TO BOTH COST OR ALSO
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INTO PROGRAMMING BURDEN.UH, SO CHANGING THE PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE REQUIRED TO OFFER MORE SERVICES OR REQUIRED TO TAKE ON MORE RESPONSIBILITIES, IT'S A STATE PROGRAM.
WE HAVE A SHARE IN IT, BUT IT'S A STATE PROGRAM.
FOURTH MOVES INTO OUR GROUP AROUND VOTING AND ABOUT MAINTAINING A VOTING PROCESS THAT ENSURES INTEGRITY AND PROTECTS OUR VOTERS, UH, PARTICIPATION.
WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE, UH, UH, VOTING TO MAKE SURE IT'S A BROAD VOTER PARTICIPATION WHILE KEEPING ELECTIONS SAFE, SECURE, AND FREE, AS WELL AS SUPPORTING INITIATIVES THAT ENSURE THAT THE ELECT ELECTION INTEGRITY THROUGHOUT THE VOTING PROCESS FROM APPLYING FOR AN ABSENTEE BALLOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH COUNTING THE VOTES, WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S INITIATIVES IN THERE AND EVERYTHING THAT IT IS A PROCESS THAT OUR CITIZENS CAN LOOK TO AND UNDERSTAND IT HAS BEEN DONE SAFELY FAIRLY AND SECURELY.
AND I KNOW THE BELIEF, THE ELECTORAL BOARD IS ACTUALLY COMING TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
MOVING ON TO NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER FIVE, RELATES TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY, AND JUST REMINDING THEM TO PROTECT OUR EXISTING AUTHORITIES AND INCLUDING REVENUE STREAMS AND LOCAL LAND USE DECISIONS, PROTECT OUR ZONING AUTHORITY AS A TALK ABOUT NEW CHANGES AND NEW NEW INITIATIVES THAT MAY COME UP AT THE STATE LEVEL, WHETHER IT'S FROM AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO TOWERS, TO ANYTHING, PROTECT OUR ABILITY TO MAKE A DECISION HERE LOCALLY, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR CITIZENS, UH, VERSUS WHAT THE FOLKS DOWNTOWN DO.
AND THEN AGAIN, SUPPORT GRANTING US EQUAL, UH, TAXING AUTHORITY, BORROWING AUTHORITY, JUST LIKE OUR, UH, UH, COLLEAGUES AT, UH, CITY IN TOWNS ACROSS VIRGINIA.
FINALLY, THE LAST TWO POLICY POSITIONS, UH, ONE RELATES TO CLOSE MEETINGS AND, UH, THIS HAS BEEN ONE THAT WE'VE HAD FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AND WE CONTINUE TO HAVE IT IN CASE THIS COMES BACK UP, UM, RELATED TO OPPOSING ANY LEGISLATION THAT WOULD REQUIRE US TO HAVE TO TAKE RECORDS MINUTES OR ANYTHING ABOUT DISCUSSIONS THAT GO ON IN CLOSE SESSION.
THOSE ARE DELICATE CONVERSATIONS THAT GO ON IN THERE, AND WE DO NOT NEED THAT.
WE DO NOT NEED THAT, UH, IMPOSED UPON US.
AND THEN THE FINAL ONE RELATES TO, UH, THE PASSAGE OF ANY STATE LAW THAT MAY HAVE FRINGE UPON THE RIGHTS OF OUR CITIZENS UNDER THE SECOND AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.
SO, UM, THAT ONE IS A NEW ONE THAT WAS ADDED JUST TWO YEARS AGO AND THEN MOVING INTO.
SO AS I MENTIONED, WE WOULD HIT A SCHOOL'S PRIORITY REQUESTS.
THEY HAVE 13 PRIORITY REQUESTS, E THEY'RE FULLY IDENTIFIED IN THE PACKET IN THE BACK.
YOU CAN SEE THE TITLES ON THE SCREEN HERE AS I SCROLL THROUGH REAL QUICKLY.
AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND SO MAYBE AS EARLY AS NEXT MONTH, WE WILL LOOK TO ADOPT IT.
SO ANY QUESTIONS, UH, DO YOU, DO YOU HAPPEN TO ASK BEFOREHAND, BUT DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHEN IT'S LIKELY THAT THE HOPPER AT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY WILL OPEN UP FOR LEGISLATORS TO PUT IN? YES, SIR.
SO PRE-FILING BEGINS NOVEMBER 15TH.
PRE-FILING BEGINS NOVEMBER 15TH FOR BOTH HOUSES.
THAT, THAT THAT'S PRE FILING WITH THE, UH, LEGISLATIVE SERVICES.
SO I FIGURED IT WOULD BE AFTER THE ELECTION.
SO THAT'S AFTER, AFTER THE ELECTION, DO WE HAVE A PLAN TO ASK, ARE ANY OF OUR DELEGATES, OUR SENATOR SPECIFICALLY TO CARRY SOMETHING RIGHT? AND THE ONE I'M THINKING OF IS, IS THE MARIJUANA PIECE.
UM, SO OUR STANDARD PRACTICES, AFTER A PRESENTATION, SUCH AS THIS, WE WILL TAKE FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD THROUGHOUT THE MONTH, WHETHER IT'S TODAY, WHETHER IT'S TOMORROW, WE'LL TAKE THE FEEDBACK AND TAKE FEEDBACK FROM STAFF AS WELL, GO BACK AND MASSAGE OUR DOCUMENT, BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL AT YOUR, AT THE NEXT MEETING, YOU'RE READY TO ADOPT IT.
AND THEN WE SEND THAT TO OUR DELEGATION AND ASK THEM TO CARRY BILLS.
HERE IS THE PRIORITY REQUEST OF THE COUNTY POSITIONS, PLEASE CONSIDER ADOPTING OR CARRYING ONE OF THESE.
THERE'S A FEW THINGS WE LIKE IF WE WANT TO, WE MIGHT WANT TO BE VERY SPECIFIC.
AND THE LEGISLATION WHEN I TRIED TO SKIM IT, BUT IT'S, I REMEMBER WHEN I OPENED IT UP JUST NOW IT'S 283 PAGES.
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SO THERE'S NO SKIMMING THAT, BUT, BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MARIJUANA, THAT THERE IS PARTS OF IT, PARTS OF THAT BILL NEED TO BE READOPTED TO COME THROUGH.TH THERE ARE RE-ENACTMENT CLAUSES TO IT.
AND SO WE, WE HAVE IN THE PACKET, WE DO HAVE SOME RIGHT NOW, WHAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, LANGUAGE CHANGES, UM, INCLUDED IN OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE CAN ADJUST AS WE GO THROUGH AS WE GO THROUGH THE MONTH.
IF WE WANT TO CHANGE IT MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE RIGHT NOW SUGGESTED.
I ASKED A SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT THE IS, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW IF IT'S THE, WHEN THE GOVERNOR INTRODUCED THIS BILL, I REMEMBER READING IT THAT IT WAS JUST THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE NOW WANT, BECAUSE WHEN IT, WHEN MS. MCGEE WENT OVER THIS WITH US, WHEN AFTER IT WAS ADOPTED, IT SEEMED THAT IT FLIPPED.
AND THAT IS TO DO WITH THE REFERENDUM.
I THOUGHT IT WAS WHEN THE GOVERNOR PROPOSED IT.
I RECALL READING IT THAT THE, THE CITIZENS HAD TO, WE HAD TO DO A REFERENDUM.
IF WE WANTED TO ALLOW RETAIL SALES, THEN THIS THING GOT PASSED AND IT FLIPPED AROUND.
AND TWO, YOU SPENT SOME TIME GOING OVER.
WHY THAT, WHY WE DON'T LIKE THAT? I'M WONDERING IF THAT IS AN ELEMENT OF THIS, THAT NEEDS TO BE REENACTED.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, I'M GOING TO PHONE A FRIEND.
UM, I WANT TO SAY THERE'S ALMOST 25 DIFFERENT ENACTMENT CLAUSES AT THE END OF THIS 235 PAGE BILL IN ONE ENACTMENT CLAUSE.
IT HAPPENS TO SAY SPECIFICALLY THAT THAT REFERENDUM SECTION BECOMES EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2022, THEN A COUPLE OF ENACTMENT CLAUSES LATER.
IT SAYS ALL OF THE PROVISIONS EXCEPT THE FOLLOWING.
AND IT DOESN'T INCLUDE, UM, THAT NUMBER ARE SUBJECT TO REENACTMENT IN THE 2022 GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
SO IN, IN MY WAY OF THINKING THOSE TWO ENACTMENT CLAUSES CONTRADICT ONE ANOTHER, CAUSE ONE PROVIDES A VERY SPECIFIC ENACTMENT DATE FOR ONE SECTION.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, A VERY BROAD SECTION SAYS EVERYTHING ELSE HAS TO BE ENACTED.
BUT THOSE ARE THE LESS, THE INFORMATION THAT'S IN THE ENACTMENT CLAUSES.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU RECALL, WHEN THE, UM, LATER PASSED THE ORIGINAL VERSION, THERE WAS NO SALES APPROVED.
AND THEY CAME BACK, I THINK, AFTER WE WENT TO THE GOVERNOR AND THEY DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND ALLOW SALES OF PLANTS AND THE OWNERSHIP OF SEVERAL PLANTS, WHICH THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE APPROVED UNTIL 20, 24, I BELIEVE.
SO AT THE END, THEY DECIDED TO DECRIMINALIZE AND ALLOW SOME SALES.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO DOWN TO PUSH HER TO BUY IT.
I DIDN'T GET ALL THE WAY TO THE LIGHT DEPARTMENT.
YOU SAY ALL THE REENACTMENT STUFF IS AT THE END.
UH, SO, SO I GUESS MY GUESS MY REQUEST TO YOU WOULD BE, LET'S KEEP OUR EYE ON THESE, ON THESE THINGS, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE VERY AWARE AND IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO BE VERY SPECIFIC, I THINK I'VE FOUND IN THE PAST, THAT'S WORKED WHEN WE SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, CARRIE, IF WE CAN ALMOST CRAFT A LANGUAGE AND I'VE WORKED WITH LEE WHERE IN THE PAST WHERE HE'LL PUT YOU IN TOUCH WITH THE ATTORNEY AT DLS, AND IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE, HOW HELPFUL AT LEAST THE ONES I'VE DEALT WITH ARE IN TERMS OF KNOWING HOW THINGS WILL OTHER THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING.
SO WE ALREADY HAVE SOME DRAFT LANGUAGE THAT WE, AS WE PROVIDE THIS TO THE DELEGATION W WOULD SUGGEST, AND THEN AGAIN, AS PART OF THAT, ASKING THEM TO SPECIFICALLY CARRY BILLS RELATED TO YOUR PRIORITY REQUEST, AND THEN, UH, WORK WITH, UH, LEGISLATIVE SERVICES, OUR DELEGATION TO FURTHER FINE TUNE, ANY, ANYTHING THAT THEY WANT TO CARRY FOR US.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT'S GONNA DEPEND ON, ON THE ELECTION AND WHO WHO'S CONTROLLING IN THE HOUSE AND THEN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
BUT I THINK THE LAST GENERAL ASSEMBLY GAVE US LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO FIX THINGS, TRIED TO FIX THINGS.
ANY, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. DRUMRIGHT, APPRECIATE THE REPORT AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, IN TIME FOR NEXT MONTH, WHETHER WE'LL HAVE IT ON, UM, GOSH, WHERE AM I SLOWING US DOWN? THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
YOU'LL SAY, YOU'LL SAY THAT NOW AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, THAT'S
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PRETTY GOOD.THANK YOU FOR COMING UP ON THE FUND BALANCE ASSIGNMENTS.
[3. 5152: Approval of FY2021 Fund Balance Assignments]
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, BARBARA HORLOCKER, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.UM, TWO ITEMS BEFORE YOU TODAY, THE FIRST ONE IS APPROVAL OF THE
WE CAME TO YOU IN AUGUST AND SHOWED YOU THE PRELIMINARY RESULTS.
UH, SINCE THEN WE'VE, UM, GOTTEN MUCH CLOSER TO FINAL RESULTS WRAPPING UP THE AUDIT RIGHT NOW.
AND THE, UM, THE RESULTS SHOW THAT, UM, WE WILL END THE YEAR WITH A FUND BALANCE TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY $41.3 MILLION.
AND WE WILL PRESENT FINAL RESULTS AT THE NOVEMBER 23RD MEETING OF THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE AND THAT THE SPECIAL BOARD MEETING WHERE THE CHURCH WALL SO PRESENT.
SO, UM, THE CHANGES SINCE THE, UM, AND I SHOULD MENTION THE, THAT WE WILL BE WELL WITHIN OUR POLICIES.
THE UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE TARGET IS 25% AND WE WILL END IT AT 28%, UM, AT THE END OF FYI 21.
SO FROM THE TIME AUGUST, TILL NOW, THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE FUND AND THE FUND BALANCE ASSIGNMENTS, THE RESERVE FOR FUTURE DEBT SERVICE INCREASED SLIGHTLY TO 4 MILLION.
UH, WE INCREASED VILLAGE STUDIES FROM A HUNDRED TO 2000.
UH, SCHOOL'S TURN BACK WAS ESTIMATED TO BE 300,000, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY 622,000.
WE ADDED AN ASSIGNMENT OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR A BENCHMARK SALARY STUDY.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT MORE IN THE NEXT ACTION.
UM, WE WILL ASSIGN 300,000 FOR ADMINISTRATIVE SLASH STAFF EDUCATION, AGAIN, JUST AN ASSIGNMENT, UM, AND THEN ASSIGN FROM FUTURE CIP PROJECTS, UM, UH, $3 MILLION.
THESE ARE THE FINAL ASSIGNMENTS, VERY CLOSE OR VERY CLOSE TO IT.
IT COULD CHANGE SLIGHTLY DUE TO THE AUDIT NUMBERS.
UM, FINAL NUMBERS COMING IN, AND THESE ARE THE, UM, NUMBERS THAT WOULD BE PUBLISHED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT, WHICH LIKE I SAID, WILL BE PRESENTED IN NOVEMBER.
UM, AND THESE ARE ALL ASSIGNMENTS ONLY THAT CAN BE CHANGED LATER AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD.
THESE REFLECT WHERE WE THINK IN THE FUTURE, WE MAY WANT TO, UM, TO PUT OUR FUNDS.
AND THE ONLY ONE WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE NEXT IS THE BENCHMARK STUDY THAT WE WILL ASK YOU TO APPROPRIATE.
SO, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FINAL YEAR-END ASSIGNMENTS? ANY QUESTIONS I LIKE THE WAY YOU SAID LIKE THREE OR FOUR TIMES, THESE ARE ONLY ASSIGNMENTS, CHINA STRAIGHT TRYING TO AVOID QUESTIONS, BUT I WAS GOING TO SAY YOU'RE YOU WERE SAYING THIS OFF AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT'S AN ASSIGNMENT.
UM, NO, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO NOTE.
SO I'M LOOKING AT, ON OUR PACKET TO SEE, ARE WE TAKING OKAY HERE? I FOUND IT WE'RE GOING FROM TWO, 2.2 MILLION ON FUTURE PROJECTS.
YOU'RE MOVING THE BALANCE FROM AN EXISTING 2.2 MILLION, OR YOU'RE ADDING CORRECT POINT 0.8 MILLION OR 800, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THOSE ARE NOT ASSIGNED TO ANY PROJECTS IN PARTICULAR.
UH, AT THIS POINT WHEN WE REVIEW RCIP IN THE SPRING, WE CAN DECIDE IF WE WANT TO PUT SOME CASH INTO SOME PROJECTS OR SOME, YOU KNOW, EARLY LOAD, SOME OTHER PROJECTS GET SOME OTHER PROJECTS STARTED SOONER, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT GIVES US A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY AND, UM, IN OUR FUTURE PLANS.
I, I KNOW, I, I THINK I HAD THIS QUESTION WHEN WE WERE SMALLER MEETING, BUT THAT, DO WE CARRY A NUMBER LIKE THAT IN FUTURE H HOW LONG? YEAH.
UM, FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, AND THEN, BUT HOW LONG DOES IT GENERALLY SIT IN THERE WHERE WE JUST HAVE A BUCKET CALLED FUTURE C I PROJECT? OR DO WE END UP JUST, WELL, WE KNOW EVERY YEAR WE TRY TO CASH FUND OF THREE TO $4 MILLION OUT OF OUR, OUT OF THAT ASIDE.
SO WE'VE SET ASIDE ENOUGH FOR THE FY 22 BUDGET, THE ONE WE'RE IN, WE, WE ALMOST HAVE ENOUGH FOR THE FY 23 BUDGET.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT THE FYI 23 OR 22 RESULTS ARE.
BUT, SO, UM, SO YES, WE'D BEEN CARRYING A FUTURE CIP NUMBER.
UM, WE HAVE MOVED SOME OF IT OUT TO, FOR INSTANCE, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS AND SAID THAT MADE THAT AN ASSIGNMENT.
UM, BUT AT THIS POINT WE HAVEN'T INVESTED ANY OF THAT CASH YET.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO GENERALLY, WE WOULD END UP TAKING THIS
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3 MILLION, YOU GET TO CASH FUND, OR WHAT DO WE EVER DECIDE TO USE IT TO MAYBE A DEBT DEBT SERVICE? UH, OH, AND WE COULD DO THAT TOO.YOU KNOW, IF, IF, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, JUST AN ASSIGNMENT.
SO IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT THAT RESERVE TO D TO BUILD UP MORE QUICKLY, WE WERE ABLE TO BUILD IT UP TO 4 MILLION THIS YEAR, WHICH, YOU KNOW, HELPS US IN THE FUTURE, UM, LOWER HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THE OPERATING FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET.
WE CAN JUST ASSIGN IT TO FUTURE DEBT SERVICE, AND THEN IT'S THERE TO PULL DOWN FROM, I GUESS, I'M TRYING TO JUST DRILL THAT AND TRY TO SEE WHAT IS SORT OF THE PHILOSOPHY, WHAT KIND OF PHILOSOPHY SHOULD WE ADOPT, BUT I GUESS IT'S SORT OF WAIT AND SEE WHAT OUR NEEDS, WELL, YEAH, MAYBE MR. CHAIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO PHILOSOPHICAL DISCUSSIONS, PERHAPS I CAN PULL THIS BACK TO THE BOARD AND GIVE, UH, MS. HORLACKER JUST A BREAK HERE.
UM, WE'VE GOT BASICALLY TWO TYPES OF EXPENDITURES OPERATING CAPITAL, AND THE OPERATING ARE USUALLY THINGS THAT ARE CONSUMED IN LESS THAN 12 MONTHS.
CAPITAL ITEMS ARE THOSE THAT ARE CONSUMED OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS AND WOULD HAVE A LONGER LIFE.
EXAMPLES MIGHT BE A SCHOOL BUS OR A SHERIFF'S VEHICLE OR SOME OTHER VEHICLE THAT HAS SIX, FIVE TO EIGHT YEAR KIND OF LIFE.
IT'S A CAPITAL ITEM, BUT WE DO THOSE EVERY YEAR.
SO EVERY 12 MONTHS WE'RE BUYING A COUPLE OF VEHICLES, WE'RE BUYING A FOSTER TOO.
SO THERE'S A RECURRING LEVEL OF THINGS THAT LASTS MORE THAN A YEAR.
AND IN THE PAST, WE'VE FUNDED ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO FIVE TO SIX TO 7 MILLION OF THOSE RECURRING CAPITAL LONG-TERM ITEMS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
SO IT WAS KIND OF A BLEND BETWEEN THE TWO WHEN YOU HAVE A CERTAIN BASE LOAD.
SO THIS THREE TO 5 MILLION OF FUTURE CIP IS MEANT TO CASH FUND, KIND OF THAT RECURRING ANNUAL NATURE OF SOME OF THE CAPITAL ITEMS. DOES THAT HELP AT ALL? I GET IT.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S GROWING.
AND I GUESS IF, IF IT'S, IF IT'S GROWING IN ANTICIPATION OF INCREASED BASE LOAD, WE, WE, WE KNOW THERE'S A BASE LEVEL OF CIP EXPENDITURES EACH YEAR.
THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE IS, DO YOU, DO YOU SET ASIDE FUNDS AND ASSIGN THEM THE WAY WE'RE DOING HERE? OR DO YOU ISSUE DEBT OR BORROW FROM A BANK OR, YOU KNOW, DEAD FUNDED AND WE'VE BEEN USING PAYGO OR PAY AS YOU GO OR CASH FUNDING, THESE, THIS BASE LEVEL, UH, OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS, WHICH AGAIN IS THE THREE TO FIVE TO EVEN 7 MILLION RANGE.
THAT WAY IT DOESN'T, UH, PILE UP IN OUR DEBT LOAD.
UH, WE'RE ABLE TO CASH FUND AND PAYGO AS YOU GO A LITTLE MORE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE WAY OR FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY TO APPROACH THINGS.
SO THE SCHOOL TURNED BACK WHERE WE'RE TAKING THEIR TURN BACK AND ASSIGNING IT BACK TO YOU'RE SIGNING IT.
THEY HAVE NOT ASKED FOR IT TO BE, UM, THEY USUALLY COME TO US WITH A REQUEST LATER IN THE YEAR TO SAY, WOULD YOU APPROPRIATE THIS MONEY BACK TO US? AND THEN THEY HAVE IT FOR ONE-TIME USES.
ALL RIGHT, LORD, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM.
SO THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, I'M MOVED THAT THEY GOODSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE FY 2021 GENERAL FUND YEAR END BALANCE ASSIGNMENTS AS PRESENTED.
THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON, AND MR. SHARP, ANY DISCUSSION ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
AND THE SECOND ITEM, UM, ARE SOME 22 BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
[4. 5153: Presentation of Resolution amending Fiscal Year 2022 Budget]
SO THE COMP BOARD, UM, RECENTLY WE LEARNED HAVE, UM, USED USING THE STATE'S ARPA MONEY, HAVE AWARDED BONUSES TO THE SWORN OFFICERS IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THAT THEY SUPPORT AND JUST LIKE ALL, MOST ALL LOCALITIES.WE HAVE A LOT MORE OFFICERS THAN THE BOARD THAN THE COMP BOARD SUPPORTS.
SO, UM, THEY ARE USING THEIR ARPA MONEY TO GIVE $3,000 BONUSES TO SWORN OFFICERS.
IN OUR CASE, IN OUR SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, WE HAVE 19 POSITIONS THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY THE COMP BOARD.
AND, UM, SO THEY, THEY LEFT AND THAT WAS THE STATE'S CHOICE TO DO IT THAT WAY.
OUR DECISION AND PHILOSOPHY WITH THAT IS WE CAN'T JUST PASS THOSE ON TO THE 19 THAT WERE SUPPORTED BY THE COMP BOARD.
SO, UM, ONE OF THE ACTIONS THAT I'M ASKING FOR TODAY IS THAT WE APPROPRIATE $225,000 OF OUR ART, BUT FUNDS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PROVIDE THOSE BONUSES TO ALL THE SWORN OFFICERS IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS THE UNIFORMED, UM, FIREFIGHTER, EMS PERSONNEL, AS
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WELL AS THE, UM, ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICER'S UNIFORM OFFICERS.AND SO THAT IS THE FIRST ASK AND APPROPRIATION OF $225,000.
UM, IN OUR PUT FUNDS, THOSE BONUSES WOULD BE EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 1ST FOR EMPLOYEES WHO HAD BEEN WITH THE COUNTY FOR AT LEAST FIVE WEEKS.
AND THE OTHER APPROPRIATION WE JUST DID THE ASSIGNMENT FOR IS, UM, TO DO A COUNTY-WIDE BENCHMARK STUDY BY, UM, WE WOULD GO OUT AND, UM, EITHER PROCURE OR USE A COOPERATIVE CONTRACT TO HAVE A BENCHMARK STUDY DONE BY A COMPANY.
THEY WOULD DO, UM, A THIS ON ALL THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
AND, UM, THEY WOULD COMPARE JOB RESPONSIBILITIES, NOT JUST JOB TITLES.
AND THEY WOULD OF COURSE, BENCHMARK US AGAINST OTHER LOCALITIES, NEIGHBORING LOCALITIES, ALSO NEIGHBORING LOCALITIES THAT ARE OUR SIZE AND THEN SOME THAT ARE LARGER.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO AND THAT WOULD COME.
THOSE CONES WOULD COME FROM ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, WHICH WE JUST ASSIGN.
THOSE ARE THE TWO, UM, AMENDMENTS THAT I WOULD REQUEST.
AND THEN THE OTHER IS, UM, UM, SIMPLY JUST TO TRANSFER, WE'VE COMPLETED THE BRIDGEWATER PROJECT.
THERE WAS $42,873 LEFT IN THAT PROJECT.
WE CAN CLOSE THAT PROJECT NOW BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE ROWS HAVE BEEN APPROVED BY
AND SO WE WOULD CHANGE, WE WOULD MOVE THAT TO OUR FACILITY SITE IMPROVEMENT, WHICH IS WHERE WE DO KIND OF THE MEDIUM, SMALL TO MEDIUM TYPE PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY PARKING LOT.
UM, REPAVING WAS, UM, STEP IMPROVEMENTS, CARPET REPLACEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO, UM, QUESTIONS ON EITHER ONE OF THOSE APPROPRIATIONS.
THANK YOU, MS. HORLICK, UM, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS, MR. SPOONER? SURE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION WAS MORE LIGHTER.
CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN TO THE FOLKS WHY ONLY 19 OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES ARE COVERED IN BY THE COMPANY? BECAUSE THE COMP BOARD DOES IT ASSIGN, THEY SUPPORT NUMBERS BASED ON POPULATION, AND THEY DO THIS FOR ALL LOCALITIES AND GENERALLY ALL LOCALITIES, NOT ONLY SUPPORT MORE POSITIONS, BUT OF COURSE, SUPPORT LARGER SALARIES WITH THEM THAN WHAT THE COMP BOARD.
AND WE DO THAT AT ALL CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
UM, THIS AUTO MAKE ITS WAY TO OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
UM, THE COMP BOARD IS KIND OF A BLACK BOX, A LOT OF US.
UM, SO THIS WASN'T THIS 3000, OBVIOUSLY WASN'T A BUDGET ITEM FROM THE LEGISLATURE.
WELL, THE LEGISLATURE PASSED IT THROUGH THE COMP BOARD.
SO IT HAPPENED IN THEIR AUGUST SESSION.
IN THEIR AUGUST SESSION WHEN THEY WERE DECIDING HOW TO SPEND THEIR ARPA MONEY, UM, THAT THE STATE RECEIVED AND YOU KNOW, IT, THROUGH A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COMP BOARD, WE SAID, WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO WITH ALL OUR OTHER OFFICERS WHO AREN'T? UM, AND, AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS, WELL, YOU GOT ARPA MONEY TOO.
SO, I MEAN, THE GENERAL IDEA AND WHAT MOST LOCALITIES DOING IS, IS USING THEIR, THEIR ARPA MONEY TO FUND BECAUSE IT IS A QUALIFICATION, HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY IS COVERED UNDER THE ARPA APP.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN UNFUNDED MANDATE, BUT THEY WILL SAY, WELL, WE FUNDED IT.
SO IT IS KIND OF IT'S UH, WELL THAT'S, YOU KNOW, BUT I, THIS IS, I'M GLAD WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS.
THERE WAS SOME, UH, SOME CONFUSION AMONGST SOME OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS THAT THIS WAS A SALARY INCREASE, BUT THIS IS A ONE-TIME BONUS BONUS TIME BONUS.
I'M GLAD WE'RE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT, BUT I JUST, IT DOES FEEL LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DID THE INCREASE FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THE COMP BOARD MONEY FOR THE 19 AND SPREAD IT AMONG CORRECT OFFICERS.
WHEN ALL THOSE QUESTIONS WERE ASKED, WE ASKED IF WE HAD TO TAKE IT.
DID WE HAVE TO PASS IT? YOU KNOW, PER OFFICER? YES, WE DID.
SO, I MEAN, THAT IS A GENUINE UNFUNDED MANDATE.
IF THEY'RE SAYING YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT AND YOU HAVE TO PAY THE SAME BONUS, I DON'T KNOW HOW SOME COUNTIES PULL IT UP, BUT EVERYBODY'S GOT OUR MONEY AND OUR MONEY.
WE BETTER HANG ON TO SOME ARPA MONEY BECAUSE THEY MIGHT DO THIS TO US AGAIN.
WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE? OUR BARBARA, UH, WHERE DOES IT LEAVE OUR BALANCE? WE STARTED
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WITH ABOUT 4.6.AND SO IT'LL STILL LEAVE US WITH ABOUT 4.2, $4.1 MILLION.
NOT THAT WE RECEIVED ALL OF THAT YET, BUT THAT WE WILL HAVE AS A BALANCE AND BLINDNESS.
MINUS THE BROADBAND MINUS THE BROAD BAND, WHICH IS ABOUT 3.4, 3.5.
SO WE WILL STILL ACTUALLY HAVE SOME, UM, ARPA FUNDS AVAILABLE.
WE CAN SAVE THEM FOR NEXT YEAR.
IF THEY DO THE SAME, WE'VE GOT TO KEEP DOING THIS TO US AND SAY, OH, YOU GOT ARPA MIND.
THAT'S JUST MAKES ME CRAZY, BUT I WILL GET OFF MY SOAP BOX.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAD THIS AS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES UNFUNDED MANDATES.
BUT THE DIFFERENCE IN THIS CASE WAS THAT THEY FUNDED FULLY.
BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES I SAY, YOU MUST PAY A BONUS OF $3,000, BUT THEY ONLY, WE ONLY GET THE 20% THAT WE USUALLY GET.
AND IN THIS CASE, THEY'RE FUNDED FULLY THE 19 POSITIONS.
THEY JUST DIDN'T FUND IT, ANY OF THE OTHER POSITIONS.
AND OF COURSE THAT WILL CREATE EVEN MORE ISSUES FOR US.
I WISH WE HAD SOME FLEXIBILITY.
CAUSE I THINK WE'RE, WE PUT OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE IF WE'D HAVE KNOWN THIS WAS COMING, WE, MIGHT'VE NOT DONE THINGS EARLIER, THINGS DIFFERENTLY, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
DID YOU COME FORWARD TO PLEASE? UM, IF I MAY REALLY QUICK.
SO, UM, AS FAR AS IT BEING AN UNFUNDED MANDATE, IT TRULY ISN'T BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING FOR THEIR APPROVED POSITIONS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY DO ALL THE TIME, EVERY YEAR, WHERE WE MAY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE IN LEGISLATION IS HAVING THEM LOOK AT THE ALGORITHM OR THE FORMULA THAT THEY'RE USING TO FIGURE OUT HOW MANY POSITIONS DOES EACH LOCALITY NEED IN OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS OFFICES, BECAUSE WE FACE THIS IN THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALL OF THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW, UM, WHEN THE LAST TIME THOSE FORMULAS FOR THEM TO COME UP WITH THAT NUMBER WAS ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE BLACK BOX.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PERCENTAGE WISE, THEY FUND A LOT FEWER SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES, YOU KNOW, THE NUMERATOR IS A LOT LOWER OF EXAMINER VERSUS LIKE THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
BUT IF YOU'RE, IF, I MEAN, IF THEY'RE BASING THIS FORMULA OFF OF THE POPULATION VERSUS SQUARE MILES OR NUMBER OF SERVICES OR WHATEVER IT IS, THE CLIMATE OF THE CULTURE RIGHT NOW, THINGS HAVE CHANGED OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND MAYBE THAT'S THE PIECE TO LOOK AT INSTEAD OF HOW MANY FOLKS LIVE IN THE COUNTY.
WELL, IF YOU CAN HELP US CRACK THE BLACK BOX OR GET SOME MOVEMENT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS AN ACTION ITEM AND, UH, CHERYL MOTION.
MR. CHAIR HAS, AS YOU HEARD FROM THE PRESENTATION, THERE'S A NUMBER OF APPROPRIATIONS AND TRANSFERS OR WHATNOT.
SO I'M INTRODUCED THIS MOTION, UM, TO MR. CHAIR.
WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION, UM, AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET AS PRESENTED AND INSIDE THAT RESOLUTION ARE ALL THE TRANSFERS THAT WE'VE TAUGHT AND APPROPRIATIONS.
THANK YOU, MR. PEARSON AND MR. SHARP.
SO THAT IS ON PAGE 77, BOTTOM OF PAGE SEVENTY SEVEN, TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY FIVE TO THE SHERIFF FROM ARPA FUNDS, THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND BENCHMARK STUDY.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
DID WE? UM, AND THEN BRIDGEWATER SUBDIVISION PROJECT COMPLETION.
THAT'S THE ITEM, RIGHT? MS. HORLOCKER.
SO ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION BEFORE US, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THE, UM, THE HUMAN RESOURCES BENCHMARK STATEMENT.
I JUST WANT IT TO, UH, ADVOCATE FOR THAT BECAUSE AS WE HEARD FROM CHIEF FERGUSON, AS WE'RE HEARING, AS WE TALK TO OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION OUT THERE FOR GOOD TALENT.
AND, UH, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIZENS GET THE BEST SERVICE.
AND DID YOU THAT WE NEED TO BE COMPETITIVE? SO I'M SUPPORTIVE.
I WISH THESE STUDIES DIDN'T COST MUCH.
THAT'S KIND OF A SHOCKER, BUT WE DO NEED TO GET THIS DONE SO THAT WE DON'T FIND OURSELVES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST MR. ALVAREZ HERE IN THE BUILDING AND DONE BEFORE SPEAKING OF THE COST, HOW DOES MS. ROSTI MAN, TELL US HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GO ABOUT PROCURING THIS BECAUSE THIS IS JUST WHAT WE SET ASIDE.
DON'T DO WE, DO WE HAVE A PROCESS WHERE IT MAY COME IN, UM, LESS? OR HOW DOES IT WORK? YES, THERE ARE SEVERAL, UM, COMPANIES THAT HAVE LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS ORGANIZATIONS HAVE USED, THEY'RE ALL COOPERATIVE IN NATURE.
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AND SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE TIMEFRAME FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.UM, I DO ANTICIPATE IT COMING IN A LOT LESS THAN THAT.
MAYBE BETWEEN 50 AND 60,000 USING THOSE COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS, I'M GOING TO WORK WITH OUR PURCHASING OFFICER ON THAT.
UM, THERE IS SOME LEG WORK TO DO ON MY END BEFORE I CAN LAUNCH IT.
AND THAT IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRESENTING THE MOST UP-TO-DATE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE POSITIONS ARE THAT WE'RE COMPARING.
SO THERE'S SOME WORK TO DO ON THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS, BUT WE'LL HOPE TO GET THAT OUT IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
SO IT IS THE DELIVERABLE GOING TO BE JUST A COMPARISON OF SALARIES FOR HOPEFULLY COMPARE COMPARABLE JOB DESCRIPTIONS OR IS THERE MORE TO, UM, SO WHAT I'M EXPECTING IS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE SALARIES, THE PAY BANS AND THE WAY THAT WE CLASSIFY THE POSITIONS.
SO IN A PAY BAND, YOU CAN HAVE A SERIES OF POSITIONS IN THERE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE LIKE POSITIONS IN THE SAME PAY BANDS THAT HAVE SIMILAR AMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY.
AND IT'S JUST AN OVERALL LOOK, UM, AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE CLASSIFYING THOSE POSITIONS AS WELL.
THE PIECE ABOUT THIS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT THIS IS A FOUNDATIONAL ELEMENT FOR SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE QUEUING UP LIKE ORGANIZATIONAL DEVELOPMENT, LIKE PERFORMANCE MANAGEMENT, EMPLOYEE TRAINING, AND ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS IS STEP ONE.
UM, AND SO TO GET THERE, THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED FOR THE FOUNDATION OF THAT PROPERLY.
THE QUESTIONS MR. YEAH, AND THIS IS A FAIRLY IMPORTANT IN A REASONABLY RECENT DEVELOPMENT OR PHENOMENON WHERE WE'VE SEEN CERTAIN POLICY DECISIONS HAVE CREATED WORKER SHORTAGES IN CERTAIN AREAS.
THEY'RE MORE PRONOUNCED IN CERTAIN AREAS THAN OTHERS, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE.
THERE'S A CERTAIN INCREASE IN DEMAND FOR CERTAIN SERVICES.
AND THERE'S A DECREASE IN SUPPLY OF WORKERS WILLING TO DO THOSE JOBS.
AND THAT'S CREATING WAGE INFLATION.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE LIKE.
IT'S THE REALITY OF THE WORLD WE LIVE IN.
AND SO WHAT WE FELT WE NEED TO DO, AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO IS, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PAYING A MARKET WAGE FOR THE MARKET SERVICES THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM EACH OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND THIS, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'LL BE A FIRST STEP.
IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THESE POLICIES HAVE TRANSLATED INTO THE KIND OF WAGE INFLATION.
IN FACT, THE BROADER INFLATION THAT WE'RE SEEING THROUGHOUT THE MARKET.
SO WE JUST NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND EMBRACE THAT AND NOT, NOT IGNORE IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND FOR US ON THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION IF NONE.
NOW WE HAVE, AM I RIGHT? REFERENDUM REFERENDUM.
[5. 5151: Update on the Referendum Process]
AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MARIELLA POSTVILLE FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR.I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE REFERENDUM AND WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
LIKE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GET OUT AND VOTE ON NOVEMBER 2ND.
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON NOVEMBER 2ND, EARLY VOTING STARTED ON SEPTEMBER 17TH SO YOU CAN VOTE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN AS WE KNOW, THE REFERENDUM IS ASKING THE VOTERS, IF THEY SHALL ISSUE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS TO PROVIDE FUNDS FOR SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED PROJECTS.
THE FIRST QUESTION IS IN REGARD TO THE SCHOOLS, UP TO $60 MILLION IN GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS FOR SEVERAL SCHOOL PROJECTS.
AND THE SECOND IS FOR THE COUNTY FOR COURTHOUSE AND A FIRE STATION UP TO $36 MILLION.
WE HAVE HAD AS OF SEPTEMBER 30TH, 18, LARGE AND SMALL COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
AND THERE ARE 16 MORE SCHEDULED BETWEEN NOW AND NOVEMBER 2ND, THE LARGER ONES ARE ON THE CHART ABOVE SOME ARE VIRTUAL, SOME ARE IN PERSON, SOME ARE SCHOOLS, SOME ARE COUNTY, UM, MR. ALVAREZ AND DR.
REILEY ONE OR BOTH HAVE BEEN AT EVERY ONE OF THESE MEETINGS.
THEY'RE PUTTING IN A LOT OF WORK HERE FOR THIS EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN.
WE HAVE A NEW SPANISH TRANSLATION, ONE PAGE FLYER.
UM, THAT'S OUT NOW FOR THE COMMUNITY.
WE ALSO ARE GOING TO DO A MAILER ON A YES OR NO POSTCARD MAILING.
WE HAVE A FLYER THAT EXPLAINS IF YOU VOTE.
AND IF YOU VOTE NO, WHAT THAT MEANS.
AND IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT THIS IS ABOUT THE FINANCING.
SO WE'RE GOING TO SEND A POSTCARD OUT TO ALL THE HOUSEHOLDS FOR THAT.
AND WE STILL HAVE YARD SIGNS AVAILABLE.
SO ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE A YARD SIGN OR KNOWS ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE A YARD SIGN, PLEASE LET US KNOW.
THERE ARE SOME OUT FRONT, YOU'D BE HAPPY TO PICK THEM UP ON YOUR WAY OUT.
UH, WE STILL HAVE THE EMAIL AND PHONE NUMBER AND WEBSITE FOR ANYONE WHO THAT HAS NOT BEEN REACHED, THAT WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION.
THEY CAN CONTACT US ON BOTH OF THOSE PLATFORMS OR GO ONLINE TO GOOGLE,
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VIRGINIA.US/BONDS.AND WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION OUT THERE THEY COULD POSSIBLY WANT.
OUR NEXT BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING IS NOVEMBER 3RD.
SO THE NEXT TIME THAT WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE REFERENDUM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RESULTS.
SO THAT'S, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.
SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SO QUICK AND TO THE POINT, YEAH, GO AHEAD.
ON MANESSA FACE BACK THERE ABOUT THE SPANISH TRANSLATION.
THANKS TO THIS REALM, ROSA, AND THE SCHOOLS, UM, YOUR, YOUR POSTCARDS, WHAT, WHAT'S THE DATABASE THAT YOU'RE MAILING THOSE TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN GOOD CHILDREN, NOT JUST WHERE THERE'S REGISTERED VOTERS.
EVERY HOUSEHOLD FROM WHERE? UM, I DO NOT KNOW THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY BUY IT.
I MEAN, IT'S A VENDOR THAT YOU PAY LIKE A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR, AND THEN THEY GIVE YOU THE LIST.
IT'S MUCH EASIER TO GET THAN THE LIST OF REGISTERED VOTERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THAT? THERE'S NO ACTION ITEMS. THANK YOU.
NEXT ITEM IS AN ACTION ITEM ON PAGE 80 OF THE PACKET.
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT UP ON THE, ON THE SCREEN THERE.
[6. 5160: Appointments - October 5, 2021]
FRANK WILSON, ALTERNATE, UH, EFFECTIVE BEGINNING OF THIS MONTH FOR THREE-YEAR TERM, OR WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY POLICY AND MANAGEMENT TEAM, KATE, KATE, KATIE HEFLIN, A PRIVATE PROVIDER REPRESENTATIVE EFFECTIVE GOING BACK TO AUGUST 26 FOR TWO YEAR TERM FILLING, UH, FILLING UP, UM, UH, UNEXPIRED TERM OF DR.THE CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVED THE GOUDA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE APPOINTMENTS AS PRESENTED.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANYBODY WANT TO MOVE US INTO A CLOSED MEETING AND WE'LL TAKE A BREAK.
UM, AFTER WE GET UNDERWAY, WE'LL TAKE A QUICK BREAK.
[7. 5162: Motion to enter a Closed Meeting for the purpose of discussion regarding]
MR. CHAIRMAN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF VIRGINIA CODE 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE.I MOVED THAT THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE IN A CLOSED MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION REGARDING RECRUITMENT FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR POSITION.
THANK YOU, MR. ALVAREZ, DO YOU WANT ME, DO YOU WANT TO DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE? I CAN DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE.
WE'RE GOING TO HEAD INTO SESSION AFTER A BRIEF BREAK.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR PARTICIPATING THIS AFTERNOON, VISIT
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VIRGINIA CODE TO THAT 2 37 12 D I MOVED THE GHOUTA COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CERTIFY THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE.ONE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS FROM THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND TO ONLY SUCH BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE DEFINED IN THAT MOTION CONVENING, THE CLOSED MEETING WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED BY THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN A CLOSED MEETING.
LET'S JUST MOVE DOWN MR. SHARP.
WE ARE OUT CLOSED SESSION AND WE'RE ON DINNER BREAK.
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OUR REGULAR MONTHLY MEETING FOR OCTOBER 5TH, 2021 GOODSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.WE'LL START THIS SESSION LIKE WE ALWAYS DO WITH CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.
ANYBODY YOU WANT TO, YOU ALL ARE GETTING ME THIS AFTERNOON.
AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, THIS EVENING, I DIDN'T DO I DIDN'T DO IT.
[XV. Citizen Comment]
WAIT A SECOND, MS. MOORE, WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT CHANGE THE ORDER JUST A LITTLE BIT.JUST GO AHEAD AND STAY, STAY TOWARDS THE FRONT.
AND WE'LL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE KIND OF A SPECIAL, UH, COMMENT FROM THE ELECTORAL BOARD.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET THE REPORT FROM THE REGISTRAR AND THE ELECTORAL BOARD.
WE CAN START WITH THAT WITH THE CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, APPRECIATE SO MUCH, YOU ARE INVITING US
[Report out by Registrar/Electoral Board on Election Integrity and Early Voting]
JUST FOR THE RECORD.I'D LIKE TO SAY I'M ROBIN LYNN, SECRETARY OF THE GIBSON COUNTY ELECTORAL BOARD AND NOMINEE OF THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY DEMOCRATIC PARTY APPOINTED BY THE CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE.
AND I HAVE SERVED ON THE BOARD FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.
I'VE SUPERVISED HUNDREDS OF ELECTIONS, INCLUDING THE CONTESTS, WHICH SECURED YOU YOUR SEAT ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, I'VE ALSO SERVED FOR FIVE YEARS AS SECRETARY OF THE STATEWIDE GRE THE WORK GROUP.
AND I'M THE IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT OF THE VIRGINIA ELECTRICAL BOARD ASSOCIATION.
AND SOME OF YOU KNOW, THE RECENT AND GROWING CRITICISM OF ELECTIONS RESULTS AND TALK OF VOTER FRAUD AND DISRESPECT FOR ELECTIONS.
ADMINISTRATORS CAUSED ME GREAT CONCERN, AND I APPRECIATE THE INVITATION TO COME HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT ELECTION INTEGRITY.
THIS EVENING, I'LL BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THE PROCESS BY WHICH WE ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF ELECTIONS IN GOOCHLAND.
AND I'LL THEN ASK THE GENERAL REGISTRAR DIRECTOR OF ELECTIONS.
RYAN MULLIGAN TO TAKE YOU THROUGH STEP-BY-STEP PROCESS BY WHICH WE REGISTER VOTERS, SEND THEM ABSENTEE BALLOTS, RECEIVE PREPROCESS AND TABULATE THOSE BALLOTS ON ELECTION DAY.
AND THEN WE'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO GO BACK ALMOST A YEAR ON NOVEMBER 6TH, 2020, THE THREE MEMBERS OF THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY ELECTORAL BOARD, TWO DEMOCRATS, MYSELF AND VICE CHAIR, WANDA TAYLOR, AND ONE REPUBLICAN.
THE CHAIR, KEITH FLANAGAN CERTIFIED THE RESULTS OF THE RECENT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THERE WERE 9,966 VOTES FOR DONALD TRUMP, WHICH WAS 58.8%, 6,685 FOR JOE BIDEN, WHICH WAS 39.4, 4% AND 242 FOR JOE JORGENSEN, WHICH WAS 1.4, 3%.
THE THREE OF US PUT OUR SIGNATURES ON THE CERTIFICATES THAT WERE SENT TO RICHMOND WITH THE PROMISE THAT THESE FIGURES WERE TRUE AND CORRECT.
AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE'D BE SUBJECT TO FELONY PROSECUTION, IF THEY WERE NOT, WE DO THIS FOR EVERY ELECTION TIME AFTER TIME AND IN, AFTER AN ARDUOUS AND EXHAUSTIVE EFFORT TO COUNT EVERY SINGLE LEGITIMATE BALLOT.
NOW, AS OF OCTOBER 1ST, WE NOW HAVE 19,812
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ACTIVE VOTERS REGISTERED IN GOOCHLAND TO SERVE THEM.WE HAVE 11 PRECINCTS THAT INCLUDES THE CAMP PLUS THE EARLY VOTING SATELLITE AND IN THE RECENT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, WE HAD MORE THAN 100 CITIZENS WHO VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE AS OFFICERS OF ELECTION IN OUR FIRST, NO EXCUSE ABSENTEE, EARLY VOTING 40.5% OF OUR VOTERS CAST THEIR BALLOTS IN PERSON BEFORE ELECTION DAY.
AND WHEN WE INCLUDE THE MAIL IN BALLOTS, WE HAD 55% OF OUR VOTERS VOTING ABSENTEE.
TOTAL TURNOUT WAS 16,000 NINE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY EIGHT, EIGHTY SIX 0.3%.
AGAIN, REPORTEDLY THE HIGHEST IN THE STATE GOOCHLAND VOTERS ARE RIGHTLY PROUD OF THEIR TURNOUT, THE DEMONSTRATION OF THEIR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT.
THEY SHOULD BE EQUALLY PROUD AND CONFIDENT OF THE ACCURACY OF THEIR RESULTS.
A VIRTUOUS CITIZENRY DESERVES NOTHING LESS.
NOW WE CANNOT ENACT OR IMPOSE PUBLIC VIRTUE.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS ADMINISTERED THE ELECTIONS IN A FAIR, OPEN, TRANSPARENT, AND NONPARTISAN WAY THAT CONVEYS OUR UTMOST DEDICATION TO UPHOLD OUR DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS AND THE CONSTITUTION WE HAVE SWORN TO DEFEND OUR OFFICERS OF ELECTION ARE ON THE FRONT LINE OF THIS ADMINISTRATION OF ELECTIONS.
THEY COME FROM BOTH DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN PARTIES WITH SOME INDEPENDENCE, THEY ARE KNOWN AND RESPECTED IN THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH THEY SERVE.
AS FAR AS PRACTICABLE, WE TRY TO ENSURE EQUAL REPRESENTATION OF THE TWO POLITICAL PARTIES IN ASSIGNING CHIEFS ASSISTANCE AND OFFICERS IN ALL PRECINCTS.
WHEN THEY'RE ON DUTY ON ELECTION DAY, THEY ARE NON-PARTISAN AND IMPARTIAL BOUND BY OATH TO STUDIOUSLY ENDEAVOR TO PREVENT FRAUD, DECEIT, AND ABUSE IN CONDUCTING THIS ELECTION.
I CANNOT EMPHASIZE THAT ENOUGH BOUND BY OATH TO STUDIOUSLY ENDEAVOR, TO PREVENT FRAUD, DECEIT AND ABUSE IN CONDUCTING THIS ELECTION OFFICERS ARE TRAINED IN THE APPLICATION OF THE EVER CHANGING ELECTION LAWS IN THE USE OF THE ELECTRONIC POLL BOOKS.
THEY EMPLOY TO QUALIFY PEOPLE OFFERING TO VOTE THE CONTROL AND DISTRIBUTION OF BALLOTS.
THE USE OF SPECIAL BALLOT MARKING MACHINES FOR THE VISUALLY HANDICAPPED, THE INSERTION OF COMPLETED BALLOTS INTO THE TABULATOR MACHINE AND THE RESPECTFUL TREATMENT OF ALL VOTERS.
OUR OFFICERS ARRIVE AT THEIR POLLING PLACES IN THE DARK PREDAWN BETWEEN 4 45 AND 5:00 AM ON ELECTION DAY TO ENSURE THAT THEIR EQUIPMENT IS SET UP AND OPERATIONAL A HALF HOUR BEFORE POLLS OPEN AT 6:00 AM.
THEY ALL SWEAR THEIR OATH THAT I JUST MENTIONED TO PREVENT FRAUD.
AND THEY ALL INDIVIDUALLY SIGNED THEIR NAMES TO THAT OATH AND TO THE MACHINE GENERATED PAPER TAPES THAT SHOW ZERO VOTES.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY, THEY SERVE THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS FOR THE NEXT 13 HOURS UNTIL POLLS CLOSE AT 7:00 PM.
THEY THEN ONCE AGAIN, SIGN THE PAPER TAPES, WHICH RECORD THE NUMBER OF VOTES TABULATED DURING THE DAY THEY REPORT THEIR RESULTS.
THEY HELP CLOSE THE POLLING STATION.
THEY PUT AWAY EQUIPMENT AND FINALLY HEAD HOME ONCE AGAIN IN THE DARK OF NIGHT AS SUPERVISORS SHARP WELL KNOWS ONE OF OUR FORMER OFFICERS OF ELECTION GENERAL REGISTRAR, DIRECTOR OF ELECTIONS, RYAN MULLIGAN AND ASSISTANT REGISTRAR KENDALL HUTCHINSON WILL HAVE BEEN WORKING ALMOST 24 7 IN THE WEEK LEADING UP TO THE ELECTION.
AND ON ELECTION DAY, THEIR OFFICE IS OFTEN OPERATING LIKE A FIELD HOSPITAL, TRIAGING THE QUESTIONS AND ISSUES THAT INEVITABLY ARISE ON ELECTION DAY.
THE THREE MEMBERS OF THE ELECTORAL BOARD RIDE CIRCUIT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, TRAVELING FROM PRECINCT TO PRECINCT, TO OBSERVE ACTIVITIES AND ADDRESS ANOMALIES OR QUESTIONS THAT COME UP.
AND WE ARE ALSO READY TO BE DIRECTED BY THE GENERAL REGISTRAR TO GO TO ANY INCIDENT THAT MAY OCCUR INSIDE OR OUTSIDE A POLLING PLACE.
THE FOLLOWING DAY, THE ELECTORAL BOARD MEETS TO REVIEW THE UNOFFICIAL REPORTED RESULTS AND COMPARE THEM TO THE PAPER TAPES GENERATED BY THE VOTE TABULATOR MACHINES.
THE PROCESS IS PAINSTAKING AND TIME CONSUMING, BUT ESSENTIAL TO ENSURE ACCURACY AND PREVENT ERRORS.
THE ELECTORAL BOARD CONTINUES ITS CANVAS ON THE FOLLOWING FRIDAY TO ACCEPT ANY LATE RETURNING BALLOTS, THEY WOULD OTHERWISE QUALIFY ONLY WHEN ALL BALLOTS ARE COUNTED
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AND THE TOTALS AGREED UPON.DO WE CERTIFY THE RESULTS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS IN RICHMOND? THAT'S LEADING UP TO THE ELECTION.
NOW I'D LIKE TO ASK THE DIRECTOR OF ELECTIONS, BRIAN MULLIGAN TO TAKE YOU THROUGH THE STEP-BY-STEP PROCESS BY WHICH WE REGISTER VOTERS AND THE PROCEDURES WE HAVE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF THE ABSENTEE VOTING PROCESS.
OKAY, THANK YOU, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, IF WE'RE TALKING ELECTION INTEGRITY, IT STARTS WITH THE VOTER REGISTRATION APPLICATION, WHICH SHOULD BE THE FIRST, UH, SHEET IN YOUR PACKETS.
AND WHEN I PROCESS THESE, UH, IT'S ADDED INTO THE STATE DATABASE WHERE IT'S CHECKED AGAINST, UM, ANY, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER OR ANYTHING THAT'S EVER BEEN DECLARED TO BE BELONGED TO SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN DECEASED OR DECLARED A NON CITIZEN OR CONVICTED OF A FELONY.
UM, UH, SO I WAS CHECKED AGAINST ALL THAT.
THEN, UM, THERE A FIVE DAY, IF IT'S OUR FIRST TIME REGISTERING TO VOTE IN VIRGINIA, THERE'S A FIVE DAY WAITING PERIOD BEFORE THEY CAN REQUEST AN ABSENTEE BALLOT OR VOTE IN PERSON.
UH, SO THEN THE NEXT PART AFTER THEY ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE WOULD BE THE ABSENTEE BALLOT APPLICATION, WHICH WOULD BE THE NEXT FORM.
UH, AGAIN, I DON'T SEND ANY BALLOT OUT TO ANYBODY WHO, WHO WAS NOT REQUESTED ONE.
SO FIRST I HAVE TO RECEIVE AN APPLICATION FROM THE VOTER, UH, AND THE INFORMATION ON THE APPLICATION MUST MATCH OUR RECORDS, UH, THE NAME AND ADDRESS AND ALL THAT.
UH, THEY HAVE TO SIGN IT PROVIDE AT LEAST THE LAST FOUR OF THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER AFTER RECEIVING THE APPLICATION AND PROCESSING IT, UH, THEIR BALLOT IS MAILED OUT TO THEM IN THIS IS THE FRONT AND BACK OF THE ENVELOPE THAT IT'S MAILED OUT IN A LABEL GOES HERE WITH A BARCODE ON IT THAT WILL ALLOW THE VOTER TO TRACK THE BALLOT THROUGH WHAT'S CALLED BALLOT SCOUT.
UH, THAT BARCODE IS SCANNED ON ITS WAY THROUGH THE DIFFERENT POST OFFICES ON ITS WAY TO THE VOTER.
AND THE VOTER CAN GO ONLINE AND TRACK WHERE THAT BALLOT IS WHEN IT WAS SENT.
UM, UH, LIKE IF THE FRONT AND THE BACK THERE, THE BACK HAS MY CONTACT INFORMATION AND HOW TO RETURN THEIR BALLOT INSIDE THAT ENVELOPE, THE VOTER WILL FIND THE INSTRUCTIONS, WHICH IS THE NEXT PAGE.
AND THEY'RE ALSO FIND THEIR BALLOT THAT IS INSIDE THIS NEXT ENVELOPE.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE FRONT AND BACK OF THE ENVELOPE.
UH, THIS IS THE, A ENVELOPE BALLOT COMES SEALED INSIDE THIS ENVELOPE.
AND THE VOTER IS TOLD TO IF THEY DECIDE NOT TO VOTE BY MAIL, TO NOT OPEN THIS, THIS ENVELOPE UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO, TO VOTE.
AND THEN IF THEY DO SO CHOOSE, THEY NEED TO OPEN THIS ENVELOPE IN THE PRESENCE OF A WITNESS.
SO, UH, LIKE I SAID, INSIDE THAT ENVELOPE, ONCE THEY DECIDE THAT THEY ARE GOING TO VOTE BY MAIL, THEY'RE GOING TO FILL OUT THIS BALLOT.
THEY OPEN IT IN THE PRESENCE OF A WITNESS INSIDE.
OF COURSE, THIS IS A SAMPLE BALLOT.
UM, AND THEY MARK IT IN THE PRESENCE OF A WITNESS.
OF COURSE THE WITNESS ISN'T, SHOULDN'T SEE HOW THEY VOTED, BUT SHOULD SEE THAT IT IS THEM FILLING OUT THEIR BALLOT.
AND THEY'RE THE ONE DOING THIS WHEN THEY'RE A COMPLETE, UH, WHEN THEY'VE COMPLETED THEIR BALLOT.
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PARTS IS THIS WHAT'S CALLED THE B ENVELOPE.
SO THEIR BALLOT, AFTER BEING FILLED OUT GETS, PUT, ERIC GETS SEALED INSIDE THIS ENVELOPE WHERE THE VOTER PRINTS THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND THEN THEY SIGN IT AND THEIR WITNESS SIGNS IT.
AND THEN, UM, I'M SORRY, I SHOULD'VE BEEN SHOWING, SO THEY HAVE THEIR BALLOT OUT FOR THE ENVELOPE.
AND THEN IN THE PRESENCE OF A WITNESS, IT GOES INSIDE THE B ENVELOPE, WHICH AGAIN, UH, LIKE I SAID, PRINT THEIR NAME, ADDRESS, SIGN IT.
AND THE VOTER, UH, THE WITNESS SIGNS IT AND THEN THEY SEAL IT IN THE B ENVELOPE.
AND THEN THIS ENVELOPE SHOULD GO INSIDE.
ANOTHER COUNTY SPECIFIC ENVELOPE HAS THE SEAL OF GOOCHLAND COUNTY ON IT.
UH, THIS ONE WILL HAVE THE VOTERS INFORMATION
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AND A BARCODE.THIS ONE WILL HAVE MY ADDRESS, BUT IT'LL HAVE A SIMILAR BARCODE TO THE ORIGINAL ENVELOPE SO THAT THE VOTER CAN THEN TRACK IT ON THE WAY BACK TO ME FROM THEM.
SO WHEN I, WHEN I RECEIVE IT, I RECEIVE IT IN THIS ENVELOPE.
I WILL, UM, FIRST CHECK, I'LL OPEN THIS ENVELOPE, THE OUTER ENVELOPE, AND EXAMINED THE B ENVELOPE WITHOUT OPENING IT CAUSE THE BALLOTS INSIDE.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE A BALLOT THAT ISN'T IN THIS ENVELOPE.
UH, THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED HERE HAS TO MATCH THE INFORMATION THAT THAT I HAVE FOR THE VOTER, THE NAME AND ADDRESS.
I MAKE SURE THAT IT IS THAT THE VOTER HAS SIGNED AND THAT THERE'S A WITNESS SIGNATURE.
AND IF THERE IS ANYTHING WRONG, UH, IF THE VOTER MISSED SOMETHING, DIDN'T PUT THE CORRECT ADDRESS.
UM, MAYBE DIDN'T PUT THEIR LI OR THE NAME I HAVE FOR THEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, OR ANY OF THESE, THE VOTER OR THE WITNESS SIGNATURE IS MISSING.
UH, THE BAIL IS SET ASIDE FOR CURING.
THE INFORMATION IS, UM, PUT IN A WELL FIRST IN VERUS AND THAT'S, UH, THE STATE DATABASE THEY'RE MARKED AS UNMARKED THAT THEIR BOWEL HAS BEEN RETURNED TO ME, BUT UNMARKED.
UM, AND THE INFORMATION IS ALSO PUT IN A SPREADSHEET THAT I USE TO GENERATE A, THROUGH A MAIL MERGE, A LETTER, NOTIFYING THE VOTER OF WHAT THE DEFECT IS AND THAT THEY NEED TO CORRECT IT AND HOW TO CORRECT IT.
UH, SO THAT'S ANY FOR ANYONE THAT IS INCOMPLETE FOR ANY ACCEPTABLE BALLOT, IT IS MARKED IN THAT DATABASE AS MARKED.
SO I KNOW THAT THIS VOTER HAS ALREADY VOTED.
THEY HAVE SENT ME THEIR BALLOT, I'VE RECEIVED IT.
UH, AND THOSE BALLOTS ARE SET ASIDE UNTIL THEY ARE GIVEN, OR THEY'RE FILED IN A SECURE LOCATION UNTIL THEY'RE GIVEN TO OUR PRE-PROCESSING OR OUR CENTRAL ABSENTEE OR CAP TEAM.
AND THEN, UH, SO THEN THE NEXT STEP IS THEY'LL EITHER BE GIVEN TO PRE-PROCESSING OR CAT.
OUR PRE-PROCESSING PROCESS MUST BEGIN SEVEN DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION.
AND THOSE BALLOTS THAT WERE, UM, SET ASIDE THAT WERE ACCEPTABLE ARE GIVEN TO THIS TEAM.
AND AFTER CHECKING THEM IN ON A POLL BOOK THEN, AND ONLY THEN IS THAT B ENVELOPE OPENED UP AND THE BALLOT TAKEN OUT AND SET ASIDE, AND THEN THEY DO LIKE A WHOLE PRECINCT'S WORTH.
AND THEN AT THE END, THEY GO AND TAKE ALL THOSE BALLOTS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED AND PUT ASIDE, AND THEY PUT THOSE INTO THE MACHINE, UH, JUST LIKE A VOTER WOULD ON ELECTION DAY.
UM, IF, UH, SO THOSE ARE FOR ANY BOSS THAT WE RECEIVE UP UNTIL THAT POINT, BUT OF COURSE ON ELECTION DAY, WE'VE RECEIVED MORE BALLOT SINCE THEN ANY BALANCE WE HAVE LEFT ON ELECTION DAY ARGUMENTS.
OUR CAP TEAM CAP STANDS FOR CENTRAL ABSENTEE PRECINCT, AND THEY FOLLOW A VERY SIMILAR PROCESS AS THE PREPROCESSING TEAM WHERE THEY TAKE THOSE, UM, BOUTS HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE, THEY CHECK THE INFORMATION AGAINST THEIR POLL BOOK.
THEY CHECK THAT VOTER IN AS HAVING VOTED AND THEY TAKE THE BALLOT OUT OF THE ENVELOPE AND IT'S PUT INTO THE MACHINE.
AND THEN THAT NIGHT ELECTION NIGHT, THOSE THAT MACHINE IS CLOSED.
AND THE MACHINE THAT WAS USED FOR IN-PERSON VOTING WAS CLOSED.
AND THOSE RESULTS UP TILL THAT POINT ARE REPORTED TO ME.
AND THOSE ARE THE UNOFFICIAL RESULTS THAT MR. LYNN SPOKE UP THE NEXT DAY.
THE ELECTORAL BOARD MEETS, UH, TAKES THOSE NUMBERS THAT WERE CALLED IN, CHECK THEM AGAINST THE ACTUAL TAPES THAT CAME FROM THESE DIFFERENT MACHINES AND VERIFIED, AND THEN ANY BALLOTS THAT WERE DROPPED OFF IN OUR REGISTRAR'S OFFICE ON ELECTION DAY OR AT THE PRECINCTS ON ELECTION DAY.
UH, AND THEN ALL THE BALLOTS THAT COME IN IN THE MAIL AFTER ELECTION DAY, BUT ARE, UH, POSTMARKED ON OR BEFORE ELECTION DAY HAVE UNTIL NOON ON FRIDAY.
AND WE TAKE ALL OF THOSE BALLOTS AND THEY ARE GIVEN TO OUR CAP TEAM AGAIN, ONE LAST TIME THEY PROCESS THOSE BALLOTS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, THE ELECTORAL BOARD CAN FINISH THEIR CANVAS OF RESULTS USING THE NEW NUMBERS.
UH, AND THEN THE, UH, BOARD, I'M SORRY, THE ELECTORAL BOARD AFTER THE CANVAS OF RESULTS, UH, CERTIFIES THE RESULTS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS.
UH, SO THAT IS THE PROCESS FROM START TO FINISH.
UM, AND ALSO JUST REAL QUICK, I WOULD LIKE TO REPORT ON THE
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IN-PERSON VOTING THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON.UH, WE HAVE SO FAR AS OF TODAY, 1,257, UH, HAVE VOTED ALREADY.
AND THEN ANOTHER 700 BALLOTS HAVE BEEN, UH, REQUESTED AND SENT OUT.
WE, WE BOTH OFFER OUR APOLOGIES FOR SUCH A LONG EXPLANATION AS A PROCESS.
AND I BELIEVE IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS UNDER THE SAFEGUARDS WE HAVE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR LICENSE.
WE WANT YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK KNOWLEDGEABLY ABOUT ELECTIONS IN GROUPS, AND WE HOPE YOU WILL HAVE ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO REFUTE ANY ACCUSATIONS THAT ARE MADE.
THAT CHALLENGE THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS.
WE WANT YOU TO BE PROUD OF THE MEN AND WOMEN.
IF IT'S SERVED WITH THE GREATEST INTEGRITY AND DEDICATION AS OFFICERS OF ELECTIONS, THEY ARE THE TANGIBLE DEMONSTRATION YEAR IN AND YOU'RE OUT, BUT PUBLIC VIRTUE DOES EXIST IN GIBSON COUNTY AND THAT WE RELY UPON IT.
AND OUR GREATER REPUBLIC IS STRONGER FOR WHAT HAPPENS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
AND WE'RE NOW HAPPY TO HAVE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU, MR. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO MISS LAST COLETTE.
CAUSE I KNOW IT'S, I'M TRYING TO, UH, COORDINATE A LOT OF THINGS.
IT'S BEEN A BIG EFFORT AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
SO THE ABSENTEE BALLOTS, THE MALE AND ABSENTEE BALLOTS LAST YEAR IN NOVEMBER, UH, BECAUSE WE WERE UNDER THE EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
WE DID NOT REQUIRE THE, THEY WAIVED, I GUESS THE, UM, A WITNESS SIGNATURE THIS YEAR IS NOT WAIVED.
SO JUST, I'M NOT ASKING YOU FOR A DIRECT NUMBER, BUT PERCENTAGE WISE, ARE YOU SEEING A LOT COMING BACK WITHOUT A WITNESS SIGNATURE? UH, I WOULDN'T SAY A LOT.
THAT IS OUR, FOR ALL THE BALLOTS THAT HAVE TO BE CURED.
THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE REASON THAT WE'RE SEEING, BUT IT'S UNDER, UH, IT'S PROBABLY IT'S UNDER 10.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT MUCH 10 BALLOTS UNDER 10 BALLOTS, TOTAL RETURNS.
PEOPLE ARE READING THE INSTRUCTIONS, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND HOW ARE YOU CURING THOSE? THEIR INFORMATION IS PUT ON A SPREADSHEET.
I USE THAT TO GENERATE LIKE A MAIL MERGE LETTER THAT SAYS I RECEIVED YOUR BALLOT, BUT IT'S MISSING THE WITNESS SIGNATURE.
AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S REALLY NO WAY FOR THEM TO FIX IT.
OR THEN, THEN EITHER HAVE ME RE-ISSUE THE BALLOT AND START OVER OR THEY CAN COME DOWN TO MY OFFICE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WHO HAS ACCESS, WHO GOES AND GETS THE MAIL? UH, ME OR DEPUTY REGISTRAR, KENDALL HUTCHINSON.
AND YOU SET ASIDE, UH, WHEN, WHEN DO YOU SEVEN DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION YOU START LOOKING AT? UH, WELL, IF SOMETHING COMES IN, IT LOOKS ON THE OUTSIDE.
IT'S COMPLETED, GOES TO A SECURE LOCATION, CORRECT? YOU GO GET THOSE THAT HAVE EITHER BEEN INSURED OR ALREADY IN THE QUEUE AND TURN THEM OVER TO CAP SEVEN.
SO, UH, TECHNICALLY IT WOULD BE PRE-PROCESSING TEAM.
UH, CAP REALLY ONLY REFERS TO THE TEAM.
THAT'S DOING IT ON ELECTION DAY.
THAT ACTUALLY ARE GOING TO CLOSE THE MACHINES, UM, AND GET THE RESULTS.
YOU SAID, YOU SAID EARLY MACHINES THAT THEY'RE CLOSED DOWN THE, YEAH, WE CAN ONLY CLOSE, CLOSED THE MACHINES AND GET THE RESULTS ON ELECTION DAY.
AND HOW MANY MACHINES ARE IN USE NOW? RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONLY ONE.
THERE'S THE ONE BEING USED FOR IN-PERSON VOTING OR EARLY VOTING.
UH, AND THEN WHEN WE DO THE PREPROCESSING, WE'LL BRING OUT AN ANOTHER MACHINE.
SO WHEN YOU START GOING THROUGH THE BALLOTS THAT HAVE BEEN MAILED IN, WHEN YOU GET WITHIN THE SEVEN DAY WINDOW, YOU IT'S A DIFFERENT MACHINE THAT PROCESSES AND ACCESS TO THE OTHER MACHINE IS IT'S JUST BECAUSE ABOUT PHYSICAL DISTANCE OR SOMETHING, OR WHAT DO YOU MEAN? W W WHERE'S THE, WHERE'S YOUR OTHER MACHINE, BRING OUT WHAT YOU BRING OUT A SECOND MACHINE, WHERE DOES IT SIT? WHERE DOES WHERE'S THAT? WHERE'S THAT NOW? OR WHERE IS IT WHEN IT, WHEN IT STARTED TO BE USED WITHIN THE SEVEN DAYS IT'S SO THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN MY OFFICE AND THEN IT'S LOCKED IN UP STRONG ROOM INSIDE MY OFFICE THAT I CAN DIVULGE EXACTLY WHERE, BUT YES.
WELL, YEAH, BUT IT'S THE STRONGEST ROOM IN THE, IN THE OFFICE.
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APPRECIATE, YEAH.JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK, MR. CHAIR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION, BY THE WAY.
UM, YOU MENTIONED IF ONE COMES IN AND IT'S NOT PERFECT FIT, THERE'S AN OUTREACH TO CURE AND TRY AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO VOTE THE RIGHT WAY, VOTES THE RIGHT WAY.
UM, AND BY THE RIGHT WAY, I MEAN, IN COMPLIANCE, UM, UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IF ONE COMES BACK NOT INSIDE THAT ENVELOPE THAT NEEDS THE WITNESS THEY CALLED NAKED BALLOT OR WHATEVER COMES BACK AT THAT, IT WOULD DEPEND AT THAT POINT, IF, IF IT COMES BACK, IF IT'S JUST A BALLOT IN LIKE SOME RANDOM ENVELOPE, I WOULD HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING WHOSE IT WAS.
IF I HAVE SOME WAY OF KNOWING WHO'S BALLOT WAS LIKE, IF IT AT LEAST CAME BACK IN THE RETURN ENVELOPE, BUT NOT IN THE B ENVELOPE, I COULD AT LEAST CONTACT THE VOTER AND TELL THEM THAT THEY NEEDED TO SECURE THAT BALLOT.
AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME DOWN AND, UH, FILL OUT THE B ENVELOPE AND SIGN IT.
AND I'D BE THE WITNESS IN THAT CASE.
I GUESS GENERALLY THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW FAR DO YOU GO IN TERMS OF CURING AND HOW FAR DO YOU OUTREACH IN TERMS OF CURING? AND IS THERE ANY DISCRETION IN WHETHER YOU TRY TO HEAR OR NOT, OR, YOU KNOW, CAUSE OBVIOUSLY ANY DISCRETION IS SOMETHING THAT RAISES A RED FLAG.
UH, I HAVE TO, I, SO I HAVE TO REVIEW ALL BALANCE THAT, THAT COME IN OR THE BEAT, NOT THE BALLOTS THEMSELVES, BUT THE B ENVELOPE AND LOOK FOR ANY ERROR OR OMISSION.
AND THEN I'M REQUIRED WITHIN THREE DAYS OF DISCOVERING, THEY GO MISSION, UH, NOTIFYING THE VOTER.
BUT AGAIN, I CAN'T THE STATE CODE THAT GIVES YOU GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF HOW, WHAT TO CURE AND HOW LONG YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CURE IT.
WHAT OUTREACH, WHICH REMOVES SOME OF THE DISCRETION, WHICH IS GOOD.
AS LONG AS PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES, THERE IS AN ADMINISTRATIVE CODE THAT HAS LENGTHY, WHAT IS MATERIAL, WHAT ISN'T MATERIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S MISSING THE STREET ADDRESS OR THE ZIP CODE OR, OKAY.
AND THE OTHER THING OF COURSE IS TO MATCH THAT, VOTE TO THE BOOK, TO MAKE SURE IT'S A REGISTERED ELIGIBLE VOTER.
AND, AND OVER TIME, THOSE VOTER ROLLS TEND TO DRIFT.
SO WHAT I GUESS, STEPS DO WE TAKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THOSE VOTER ROLLS UP-TO-DATE AND CLEAN, UM, SO THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GO TO COLLEGE OR PASS AWAY OR TO JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO WE DO? SO THAT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY LENGTHY, UM, SHORT, UH, SO ANY, WELL YOU SAID HOW OR WHAT, WHAT, JUST GIVE ME SOME ASSURANCE THAT WE'RE KEEPING UP.
ANYBODY WHO'S REPORTED AS BEING DECEASED.
UH, I GET MONTHLY FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS, ANY SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER.
THAT'S BEEN DECLARED BELONGING TO SOMEBODY WHO'S BEEN DECEASED ANY ABOUT MONTHLY.
I GET HOW, YOU KNOW, WHO'S BEEN CONVICTED OF A FELONY.
UM, YEARLY, THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS TRIES TO CATCH UP ON PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED OUT OF STATE BY SENDING OUT MAILINGS.
AND, UM, YEAH, WE, WE CANCEL ANYBODY AFTER ANY FEDERAL ELECTION.
WE CANCEL ANYBODY WHO HAS BEEN IN INACTIVE FOR THE PAST TWO FEDERAL ELECTIONS.
SO THANK YOU, MR. LINDA, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING? UH, I THINK YOU CAN RELY ABSOLUTELY.
ON THE ONGOING, UH, WEEKLY, DAILY, MONTHLY, UH, EFFORTS OF THE GENERAL REGISTRAR TO KEEP THE LIST AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE.
UM, WHEN SOMEBODY HAS AN OBITUARY IN THE PAPER, WE MAY WANT TO CHECK AND FIND OUT WHETHER IT WAS CORRECT AND THE PERSON WHO HAS DIED AND THAT IT IS XYZ SENIOR AND NOT JUNIOR.
UM, AND THEN START THE PROCESS TO REMOVE THAT VOTER FROM THE ROWS.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I'M TO SAY THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE AND, UH, UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR WALKING US THROUGH IT IN GREAT DETAIL.
YOU CAN REGISTER THE ENVY YOU CAN.
SO THEY CAN COME TO YOUR OFFICE, FILL I REGISTERED CARD.
YOU SAID YOU MAIL IT IN AND THEN, AND THEN YOU SAID IT'S CHECKED AGAINST THAT'S THE STATE DOES THAT THE STATE CHECKS IT AGAINST THE THINGS YOU DESCRIBED.
WHEN I AM ENTERING THE INFORMATION INTO THE DATABASE, IT'S RUN AGAINST ALL THESE DIFFERENT RECORDS.
SO YOU DON'T MAIL CAUSE A LOT OF RELIANCE ON US MAIL, WHICH ALWAYS GETS MY ATTENTION.
BUT, BUT THIS FORM, WHEN YOU GET IN YOUR OFFICE FOR SOMEBODY TO REGISTER THE TOP FORM OF THE REGISTRATION, YOU DON'T MAIL IT IN, YOU KEY IT INTO A SYSTEM.
AND SO THAT IS THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHERE I'D GET KICKED OUT.
IT'LL GIVE ME A PERCENTAGE MATCH.
AND IF, AND IF IT GETS THROUGH, THEN THAT PERSON BECOMES
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REGISTERED.HOW ABOUT THE REGISTRATION NUMBERS? LIKE IF SOMEBODY'S REGISTERED DMV THAT, THAT DOESN'T COME TO YOUR OFFICE.
WHEN YOU DO IT AT THE DMV, UM, ALL IT REALLY DOES.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO.
AND THEN IF YOU SAY YES, THEN IT TAKES THE INFORMATION.
YOU PROVIDE THEM LIKE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
AND IT GENERATES A FORM THAT IS SENT TO MY OFFICE, BUT I'M STILL THE ONE THAT ENTERS THAT INFORMATION INTO THE SAME DATABASE.
WHAT THE DIFFERENT, I'M THE ONE WHO KEYS IT INTO THE VOTER REGISTRATION DATABASE.
SO YOU'RE THE SOLE POINT? YOUR OFFICE IS A SOLE POINT GOOSE ON REGISTER AND SKIDDING GETTING INTO THE STATE DATABASE.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT ADD AN ANECDOTE FROM LAST YEAR, WE HAD A VOTER WHO CAME TO VOTE AND WAS NOT REGISTERED ON THE POLL BOOK.
AND SHE INSISTED THAT SHE HAD REGISTERED AND THAT SHE HAD RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE REGISTRAR SAYING THAT IT HAD BEEN APPROVED.
AND SHE HAD UPON INVESTIGATION IN RYAN'S OFFICE.
RYAN WENT AND GOT A CARD AND WHERE IT SAID LAST NAME.
FIRST SHE PUT FIRST NAME LAST.
AND IT WAS ONE OF THOSE NAMES LIKE CARTER DABNEY COULD HAVE BEEN DABNEY CARTER.
SO SHE WAS REGISTERED AS UNDER DABNEY CARTER RATHER THAN CARTER DABNEY, BECAUSE SHE PUT HER OWN NAME IN BACKWARDS, BUT THE REGISTRAR WAS ABLE TO FIND IT, TURN IT AROUND AND CORRECT IT.
AND THEN SHE COULD VOTE, BUT SHE WAS NOT LISTED UNDER THE OTHER NAME.
DO YOU GET LESS FROM DMV? I MOVED TO IDAHO AND GET A LICENSE.
AND IDAHO TELLS VIRGINIA DMV THAT MY LICENSE IS CANCELED.
DO THEY SUPPLY YOU WITH INFORMATION THEN THAT SAYS, THIS PERSON'S MOVED OUT OF STATE.
IF THEY, IF THEY REGISTERED TO VOTE AT THAT TIME, IF SOMEBODY REGISTERED THE REGISTERS TO VOTE IN ANOTHER STATE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ASK IF YOU'RE REGISTERED IN AN, IN ANOTHER STATE AND THEN THEY'LL CONTACT ME AND TELL ME THAT THIS PERSON IS NOW REGISTERED TO VOTE.
BUT IF THEY NOT JUST FORGETTING THE, WE GET AN IDAHO LICENSE, THERE'S NO PRESUMPTION THAT THEY'VE MOVED TO IDAHO.
AND THEREFORE, IF YOU CAN REGISTER OFF GETTING A LICENSE IN DMV, IT SEEMS LIKE, DAMN, THEY SHOULD NOTIFY YOU.
THAT LICENSE HAS BEEN CANCELED, AT LEAST FOR YOU TO INVESTIGATE AS TO WHETHER THAT PERSON EVEN LIVES HERE ANYMORE.
BUT THAT JUST DMV THAT WOULD HAVE TO DO YOU'D HAVE FILED THAT UNDER COMMON SENSE.
AND THAT'S A VERY, VERY SMALL CHAPTER IN THE CODE.
MR. MULLIGAN, THE SAME WAY THIRSTY IN ANOTHER STATE, YOU GET NOTIFIED IF THEY REGISTER IN ANOTHER PICK COUNTY.
WHEN THEY PROCESS, WHEN THE NEW LOCALITY PROCESSES THAT IT WILL CANCEL THEM HERE AND BRING THEM INTO THEIR COUNTY.
AND THEN I GET A REPORT EVERY DAY THAT SAYS PEOPLE WHO HAVE TRANSFERRED OUT TO OTHER LOCALITIES.
WELL, AGAIN, I GO, WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME.
ALL RIGHT, MS. MOORE, WE'RE READY FOR CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.
I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR MY NEW FOUND A WAY OF THINKING OF EVERY DAY.
AND, UH, I FOUND THIS, UM, ON SUNDAY MORNING ON MY EMAIL AND IT SPEAKS TO WHAT I WILL ATTRIBUTE MYSELF TO TRYING TO DO EACH DAY.
THE FIRST THING IS DON'T COMPLAIN.
IT IS THE BIGGEST WASTE OF TIME.
EITHER DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT OR ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON.
UH, NUMBER TWO IS BE GRATEFUL.
SAY THANK YOU OFTEN, UH, TO MORE PEOPLE FOR BIG THINGS AND THE SMALL THANK YOU FOR BEING THERE FOR ME IS ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL THINGS YOU CAN SHARE.
IF YOU FIND YOURSELF IN A SITUATION WHERE EVERYONE IS LOOKING AT EACH OTHER AND WONDERING WHAT TO DO NEXT, IT'S TIME TO STEP UP.
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WHEN, UH, WHEN DO YOU BECOME A LEADER? WHEN YOU DECIDE TO BECOME ONE, IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE YOUR FACE IN A BOOK EVERY AFTERNOON TO PICK SOMETHING NEW, JUST OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AROUND YOU.
EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN STRUGGLES.
UM, BILL'S FAMILY ISSUES WHO KNOWS, JUST BE AWARE THAT EVERY, UH, EVEN IF YOU DON'T KNOW SOMEONE IS STRUGGLING, THEY PROBABLY ARE.
AND, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
THIS IS THE LAST ONE IS DON'T TAKE YOURSELF OR ANYTHING TOO SERIOUSLY.
I HOPE LIKE I SAID THAT I CAN FOLLOW THESE EVERY DAY.
UM, THERE'S MY NEW JOHN DEERE, AS WE FOUND OUT FROM THEM TO TELL HIM THE LITTLE CHILDREN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOU'VE DONE FOR GOOCHLAND.
AND MY, MY BEEPER IS SAYING THAT I NEED TO GET AWAY.
ANYBODY ELSE DIDN'T DO THE NORMAL INTRODUCTION, BUT PLEASE COME FORWARD THREE MINUTES.
IF YOU WOULD, AFTER YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF, I'M BACK.
I SAID, I WOULD BE, UH, JONATHAN LAO, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD, MS.
SO I JUST THREW HER UNDER THE BUS.
UM, CAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT AGRICULTURE.
UM, I'M GOING TO SAY, THANK YOU KIND OF PIGGYBACKING ON WHAT, UH, MS. MOORE JUST SAID.
CAUSE I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AND NOT JUST ME, UH, ALL THE CITIZENS IN GOOCHLAND TO COME AND SHARE THOUGHTS WITH YOU AND, AND PROVIDE INPUT BECAUSE THERE'VE BEEN SOME RECENT NEWS REPORTS WHERE THERE ARE SOME LOCALITIES EVEN HERE IN VIRGINIA THAT ARE DISCOURAGING, THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING TO SHUT DOWN PUBLIC COMMENT AND CITIZEN INPUT ON WHAT IS BEING DONE AT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT LEVEL.
UM, BUT THAT I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST TO NOT IN GOOCHLAND.
AND SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, AND SO THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING A LIMITED THREE MINUTES OF, UH, INPUT, UH, EVERY TWO HOURS OR SO, BUT, UH, I ALSO WANT TO, UH, FOLLOW UP JUST VERY, VERY BRIEFLY WITH, UH, THE REGISTRAR AND, UH, PRESENTATION.
UH, MY SON CURRENTLY, MY YOUNGEST SON IS A RESIDENT OF INDIANA, HAS REGISTERED THE VOTE THERE AND, UM, UH, DID RECEIVE A JURY SUMMONS THE OTHER DAY.
AND UPON FURTHER INVESTIGATION AT HIS BEHALF TO FIND OUT HE IS STILL REGISTERED TO VOTE HERE IN GOOCHLAND IT'S ON HIM TO, UH, ADDRESS THAT.
BUT TO MR. SHARP'S QUESTION, HE HAS A INDIAN LICENSE.
HE'S REGISTERED THE BOAT AND HAS VOTED IN INDIANA, BUT HE STILL APPEARS ON THE VOTER ROLLS HERE IN GOOCHLAND.
SO THERE IS NO LIST, PERFECT, NO DATABASE.
IF EVERYBODY WENT HOME AND LOOKED AT THEIR CHRISTMAS CARD LIST, THEY'RE GOING TO FIND THAT THERE HAS BEEN CHANGES, UH, TO THAT LIST.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL ARE PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR.
BUT TO THAT POINT, I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN THE ELECTION PROCESS HERE IN GOOCHLAND.
I HAVE BEEN AN OFFICER OF ELECTION ALSO, AND I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT THAT THERE WOULD BE ISSUES WITH THE ELECTION INTEGRITY HERE SINCE 1999.
UM, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
AND IT FINALLY, FINALLY WITH MS. MORRIS, UH, OF SAYING THANK YOU AND TAKING THINGS FOR GRANTED, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HEARING AND I PROBABLY WILL SHARE SOME THOUGHTS ON IT, BUT I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY, THROUGH THE WOODS NEIGHBOR, SCOTT GAZER.
CAUSE HE AND I HAD A CONVERSATION EARLY ON AND HE MADE SOME VERY, I THINK, EYE OPENING COMMENTS TO ME.
AND I APPRECIATE THOSE SCOTT BECAUSE IT GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO REFLECT ON ME.
UM, AND I'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON MYSELF.
SO I'M NOT TRYING TO FIX OTHER PEOPLE.
I'M PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT I CAN TAKE CONTROL OF AND THAT'S ME.
SO, UM, I LIKE TO THINK WE CAN DISAGREE WITHOUT BEING DISAGREEABLE, BUT UH, YEAH, SELF, UH, SELF OUTING HERE.
I'VE GOT SOME FLAWS AND SO YEAH, MR. PETERSON, AND I APPRECIATE, YEAH, YOU WANT ME TO GO ON, WELL, I TELL YOU, UM, I'M, I'M GOING TO RESPECT THE LIGHT MS. BEST K, WHICH CAN HURT ME IF I DON'T.
SO, UH, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT I DO HAVE, AND EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE AND SHARE THOUGHTS AND THAT,
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UH, THIS BOARD IS NOT TAKING ACTIONS THAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN.YOU KNOW, YOU GAVE ME A CHANCE TO LOOK AT MYSELF, SO I'LL SIT DOWN WITH APPRECIATE IT.
WE'LL MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND CLOSE THIS EVENING.
[XVI. Public Hearings:]
PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IS A COUNTYWIDE ORDINANCE PARADES AND PRE-SESSIONS WITH A REPEAL AND ADOPTION MCGEE.OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY WILL PRESENT.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ALVAREZ AND GOODSON CITIZENS.
I AM THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY ATTORNEY, TARA
[1. 3752: Countywide Ordinance repealing County Code Section 9-11 (Parades and]
MCGEE.AND I'M BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING TO PRESENT THE PARADE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT FOR PUBLIC HEARING, THE ROAD THAT WE HAVE TRAVELED TO AMENDMENT OF THE PARADE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN LONG.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. SPOON HAUER.
I DID MENTION THERE WAS A PUN OR TWO IN THE, UH, IN THE PRESENTATION AS IS MY WANT.
WHILE WE HAVE TAKEN OVER THREE YEARS ON THIS PROJECT, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF GOOD POLICY CONSIDERATIONS AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ALONG THE WAY.
SO I'M GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE TO TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.
UM, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WHEN THIS WITNESS INITIATED STAFFING AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WAS SUCH THAT SOME FIVE KS IN A PLACE LIKE WEST CREEK COULDN'T OCCUR BECAUSE THERE SIMPLY WASN'T ENOUGH DEPUTIES TO ASSIST WITH THE EVENTS AND THE BOARD MEMBERS HAD AN INTEREST IN WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD INCREASE THE STAFFING OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO WORK ON THOSE EVENTS, TO SUPPORT THEM.
I ALSO KNEW THAT THIS WAS AN ORDINANCE THAT NEEDED TO BE, TO COMPLY WITH CURRENT LAW.
SO I STARTED ON A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT CAME OUT IN NINTH IN 2019.
THE FIRST THOUGHT WAS TO COMBINE BOTH A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT PROCESS AND THE PARADE PERMIT PROCESS AND PUT IT UNDER THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS AUTHORITY.
WHEN I FINISHED DRAFTING THAT ORDINANCE THOUGH, BOTH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND SHERIFF AGNEW, UH, STATED THAT, OKAY, THIS ACTUALLY ISN'T GOING TO WORK.
UM, MOSTLY BECAUSE THE ONLY PERSON WITH SUFFICIENT KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE ABOUT HOW TO SAFELY ALLOW AN EVENT ON GOOCHLAND COUNTY ROADS IS OUR SHERIFF.
AND SO ALTHOUGH THIS BOARD DID ADOPT A REVISED SPECIAL EVENTS ORDINANCE THAT CAME THROUGH BY ITSELF LAST YEAR, UM, WE NEEDED TO THEN SEPARATE INTO A DIFFERENT DRAFT OF THE PARADE ORDINANCE.
IN JANUARY OF 2020, SHERIFF CREASY TOOK OFFICE AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER BEGAN WORKING WITH ME, UH, ON THE CHANGES TO THE PARADE ORDINANCE.
WE CREATED A SHORTENED AND SIMPLIFIED PERMIT PROCESS.
WE DID IN FACT INCREASE THAT STAFFING OPTION AND BECAUSE IT WAS REQUIRED BY, UH, CASE LAW, WE BEGAN TO ADDRESS FIRST AMENDMENT ACTIVITIES, INITIALLY CREATING AN EXEMPTION IN THE ORDINANCE FOR BOTH SPONTANEOUS MARCHES AND THEN A MORE LIMITED APPLICATION PROCESS FOR PLANNED FIRST AMENDMENT MARCHES.
THAT DRAFT ORDINANCE WAS READY BY SUMMER 22, 20 20.
I DISTRIBUTED IT FIRST TO ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAD RECENTLY HELD EVENTS AND I INCLUDED KINDRED SPIRITS AND HARDYWOOD CAUSE THEY TEND TO BE OUR, OUR 5K, UH, SPONSORS ARE WORKING ON FIVE KS.
I NOTED ACTUALLY THAT I SENT IT OUT TO ELIZABETH NELSON LYDA WHO WAS HERE EARLIER TODAY ABOUT GOOCHLAND DAYS.
UM, I ALSO SENT IT TO SOME COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS WHO HAD AN INTEREST IN PARTICULARLY IN, UH, THE GAVIN COMMUNITY TOGETHER, PERHAPS FOR EVENTS.
AND I SENT IT TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BECAUSE THEY MIGHT ALSO HAVE GOOD IDEAS ABOUT BUSINESSES.
I RECEIVED VERY GOOD FEEDBACK AND MADE SOME REVISIONS TO THE ORDINANCE.
AND WE WERE APPROACHING AN OCTOBER PUBLIC HEARING HAD BEEN SCHEDULED BEFORE THE BOARD.
HOWEVER, AS WE WERE APPROACHING THAT THREE, REALIZE THAT THERE WERE THREE ISSUES THAT STILL NEEDED CONSIDERATION BEFORE WE COULD BRING IT FORWARD.
AND THOSE WERE WHETHER WE SHOULD USE OUR PARADE ORDINANCE TO COVER, UM, DEMONSTRATIONS, THINGS THAT, WHERE PEOPLE ARE GATHERING FOR FIRST AMENDMENT, BUT THEY'RE NOT ON THE ROADWAYS.
UM, THERE HAD BEEN A NEW STATE LAW PASSED THAT YEAR ABOUT, UH, ALLOWED YOU TO PROHIBIT, UH, REGULATE FIREARMS ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, PERMITTED EVENTS.
AND THEN, UH, I WAS ASKED TO ACTUALLY, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE SPECIAL EVENTS PROCESS TO ALSO CONSIDER, UH, CHANGES TO THE PENALTY PROVISIONS.
SO WE DID NOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING IN OCTOBER OF 2020 INSTEAD.
I ASKED YOU TO DEFER IT SO WE COULD ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
AND I THEN SPENT A COUPLE OF MONTHS WORKING ON BENCHMARKING AND RESEARCHING THOSE ISSUES.
JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, I HAVE SENT A REVISED ORDINANCE OUT, UH, AT THIS POINT TO MOSTLY COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, AND MADE FURTHER REVISIONS FROM SOME OF THEIR FEEDBACK.
AND WE WERE PREPARING FOR A FEBRUARY, UH, PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD.
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TIME THOUGH, IT WAS, I WAS TALKING TO BOTH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND BELIEVE ME, WE MET WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE REGULARLY THROUGH THIS PROCESS.UM, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ACTUALLY HAVING SOME FIRST AMENDMENT ACTIVITY MARCHES IN THE COMMUNITY AT THAT TIME.
AND SO FROM BOTH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS SUGGESTED THAT WE SHOULDN'T TRY AND FINALIZE OUR ORDINANCE UNTIL WE'RE ABLE TO GAIN FURTHER EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE WITH INTERACTING WITH THOSE ACTIVITIES THAT WERE ALREADY OCCURRING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO AT THAT TIME, I REQUESTED THAT YOU DEFER THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE DID THAT UNTIL LAST MONTH, SEPTEMBER THIS SUMMER, WE DID MAKE AN IMPORTANT DECISION AND THAT WAS TO EXEMPT ALL FIRST AMENDMENT ACTIVITY FROM A PERMIT PROCESS IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY.
UM, AND THAT REVISED ORDINANCE WAS THEN SENT OUT TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN AUGUST FOR THEIR REVIEW AND FEEDBACK.
AND THEN I WILL SAY AGAIN, AS I'VE SAID THAT I'VE MET WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, THE S THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE REPRESENTED ARE BACK CORNER HERE, BOTH THE SHERIFF, UM, MIKE EAST AND SERGEANT TROY MAY WERE REGULARLY MEETING WITH ME THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, MAKING POLICY DECISIONS, SIMPLIFYING THE REQUIREMENTS AND SO FORTH.
UM, SO WE THOUGHT WE WERE READY IN AUGUST, AND THEN WE LOOKED AT THE AGENDA FOR SEPTEMBER, AND YOU GUYS ALREADY HAD A DOZEN PUBLIC HEARINGS SCHEDULED.
AND SO IT WAS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU PUSH THIS UNTIL TONIGHT, SO THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE AN EXTRAORDINARILY LENGTHY MEETING LAST MONTH, AND THAT THIS IS A MUCH SHORTER DOCKET.
SO HERE WE ARE READY TO HAVE YOU CONSIDER CHANGES TO THE PARADE ORDINANCE I HAVE HERE.
A SUMMARY IS, AS MR. LUMPKINS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STRIKING THE ENTIRE PARADE ORDINANCE TO REWRITE IT TO READOPT IT, UM, CAUSE THERE'S SUFFICIENT REVISIONS MADE THAT THAT'S A CLEANER WAY TO DO IT, BUT I DO HAVE A SUMMARY OF BOTH WHAT WE WANTED TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE SUBSTANTIAL REVISIONS THAT WE MADE.
GENERALLY, WE WERE STREAMLINING THE APPLICATION REQUIREMENTS.
THE ONLY INFORMATION NOW SOUGHT THROUGH THIS PERMIT PROCESS IS WHAT IS REQUIRED BY THE SHERIFF TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN SAFELY HAVE AN EVENT.
THAT'S ALL WE HAVE IN THERE AND ANYTHING THAT WAS EXTRANEOUS OR THAT THEY DIDN'T NEED TO GET.
WE MADE SURE TO CUT OUT OF THAT PROCESS TO CUT OUT OF THE ORDINANCE.
WE ALSO TOOK OUT THINGS THAT PERHAPS COULD BE A POTENTIAL BARRIER, FOR INSTANCE, A DEPOSIT FOR THE COST OF COUNTY SERVICES.
THE SHERIFF HADN'T HAD A PROBLEM THAT HE COULD REMEMBER, EVEN IN HIS LONG SERVICE IN THE OFFICE, IF SOMEBODY'S NOT PAYING FOR THEIR COSTS OF COUNTY SERVICE.
SO WHY MAKE THEM COME IN WITH A DEPOSIT FOR IT? SO WE REMOVED THAT.
AND OF COURSE WE ACCOMPLISHED OUR ORIGINAL, THE VERY NUB OF THE IDEA THAT BROUGHT US HERE.
IN ADDITION TO HIRING OFF-DUTY SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES TO ASSIST WITH AN STATE POLICE OFFICERS ARE ALSO ELIGIBLE TO PROVIDE THAT SECURITY OPTION BECAUSE BOTH OF THEM HAVE JURISDICTION OVER STATE ROADS.
THANK GOODNESS WE, UM, SHORTENED THE TIMEFRAME FOR THE APPLICATION PROCESS.
ALTHOUGH YOU MAY HAVE CAUGHT A WHIFF OF THIS FROM THE GOOCHLAND DAYS, FOLKS THAT WERE HERE, I STILL ENCOURAGE.
AND THE SHERIFF'S SERGEANT MAY IN PARTICULAR, WHOEVER SEES THIS PROCESS FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, ENCOURAGES PEOPLE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH HIM BEFORE THEIR APPLICATION IS EVEN DUE, BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE NEED SOME ASSISTANCE IN FIGURING OUT WHAT DO I NEED IN A SANITATION PLAN? WHAT ARE THE SECURITY NEEDS GOING TO BE? AND THOSE ARE THE THINGS YOU PUT IN YOUR APPLICATION.
SO YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT OF A HELP BEFORE PERHAPS YOU SUBMIT IT.
SERGEANT, MAY'S HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UM, BUT IF YOU WAIT UNTIL THE LAST DAY TO TURN SOMETHING IN THAT CAN GET A LITTLE TRICKY.
I KNOW HE STILL WORKS WITH PEOPLE TO MAKE SURE IT GETS DONE.
UM, BUT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF HELPING PEOPLE TO GET THEIR EVENTS DONE, UM, UH, PROPERLY AND APPROPRIATELY.
THEN ON THE PENALTY PROVISIONS, I MADE SEVERAL CHANGES AND I WANT TO JUST CALL OUT THE THREE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAD INPUT INTO THESE, UH, UH, SUGGESTIONS.
UM, JONATHAN LYLE, WHO I THINK YOU WILL HEAR FROM TONIGHT, JONATHAN, I DON'T KNOW WHICH SIDE OF THE ROOM YOU WENT TO AND YOU SAT BACK DOWN, BUT THERE IS, UM, WENDY HOBBS AND SAY KU SHABAKA EACH HAD A CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TO WHAT I ENDED UP DOING WITH THE PENALTY PROVISIONS.
SO THE ACTIONS THAT ACTUALLY GIVE RISE TO A PENALTY ARE MUCH NARROWER.
THEY USED TO BE ANY VIOLATION OF THIS ORDINANCE.
NOW IT'S JUST, IF YOU HAVE A PARADE WITHOUT EVER GETTING A PERMIT, OR IF YOU HOLD A PARADE OR A PROCESSION IN VIOLATION OF ONE OF YOUR CONDITIONS, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THINGS THERE'S THAT THOSE ARE THE BIGGIES.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT MATTER.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD HAVE A PENALTY.
THE PENALTY WAS LOWERED TO A CLASS THREE MISDEMEANOR, WHICH HAS A MAXIMUM FINE OF $500.
AND IF YOU INTERFERE WITH A PARADE OR PER SESSION, THAT WAS ALREADY THE PENALTY, A CLASSROOM MISDEMEANOR.
SO THERE WAS AN EQUALIZATION THERE.
AND AT THE SUGGESTION OF, UH, COMMUNITY MEMBERS, WE HAVE A NON-CRIMINAL PENALTY INCLUDED AS WELL.
NOW, IF THE JUDGE, IF THE SHERIFF DOESN'T WANT TO GO HAVE A CLASS THREE MISDEMEANOR AFTER YOU, BUT HE CAN INSTEAD,
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UM, CHOOSE TO NOT LET YOUR ORGANIZATION HAVE ANOTHER PARADE PERMIT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, UP TO ABOUT TWO YEARS AS IF YOU'VE HAD SOMETHING IN VIOLATION OF THE ORDINANCE.FINALLY, UH, THE INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS WERE CLARIFIED AND IMPROVED AND THE LANGUAGE AS IS TYPICAL AND WORDING THE DEFINITIONS AND SO FORTH WERE JUST IMPROVED THROUGHOUT THE ORDINANCE TO MAKE IT CLEARER, EASIER TO READ, EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THERE WERE SOME IMPORTANT LEGAL THINGS THAT I DID TO THE ORDINANCE IT'S BEFORE YOU TO MEET A FIRST AMENDMENT CASE LAW, THE DISCRETIONARY STANDARDS FOR MAKING DECISIONS IN THE ORDINANCE HAD TO BE REWRITTEN TO PROVIDE SPECIFIC CRITERIA THAT IS WHAT'S REQUIRED.
NOT JUST THE SHERIFF WILL DECIDE ON YOUR PERMIT, BUT IF YOU HAVE THESE ELEMENTS THAT'LL WILL BE APPROVED.
THESE ARE THE REASONS IT CAN BE DISAPPROVED.
AND THAT ADDED TO THE LENGTH OF THE ORDINANCE, WHICH YOU MIGHT HEAR MORE ABOUT FROM SPEAKER TONIGHT.
UM, IN ADDITION FOR LEGAL COMPLIANCE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT ADDRESSES BOTH, UH, SPONTANEOUS PRECESSIONS THAT TYPE OF THING WHERE THE PUBLIC TAKES TO THE STREETS AND IT, BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THAT JUST HAPPENED OR SOMETHING THAT'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN AS WELL AS PLANT FIRST AMENDMENT ACTIVITY.
UM, AS WE'VE HAD, FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE JUNETEENTH MARCH, UH, HERE A YEAR OR TWO AGO, BOTH OF THOSE ARE UNDER THIS ORDINANCE COMPLETELY EXEMPTED FROM A PERMIT PROCESS.
AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THAT.
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE MARCHERS ON A FIRST AMENDMENT TO ENSURE THAT THEIR SAFETY AND THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ARE PROTECTED, BUT HE IS NOT GOING TO STOP ANY GROUP FROM THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT PROCESS BECAUSE, OH, I'M SORRY, YOU DIDN'T EVEN, YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME A PERMIT APPLICATION, SO NOPE, YOU CAN'T DO IT TODAY.
IF HE CAN ACCOMMODATE ANYTHING SAFELY, HE WILL.
AND THAT'S JUST A SUPPORT OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS TO, TO DECREASE OR REMOVE A BARRIER FROM THEM BEING USED.
SO THAT WAS THE BIGGEST CHANGE IN THE, UM, MOST RECENT ORDINANCE.
AGAIN, WHEN I SENT IT OUT TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, I MADE A POINT TO MAKE SURE THEY DIDN'T MISS THAT.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT GOT MADE.
THE OTHER LEGAL PIECE WAS THE CONSIDERATION OF THE, UM, FIREARMS, STATE LAW AUTHORITY THAT YOU COULD REGULATE FIREARM CARRYING, UH, NEAR OR IN PERMITTED EVENTS.
AND BY PERMITTED EVENTS, THE STATE LAW INTENDED TO ENCOMPASS BOTH LIKE DEMONSTRATIONS AND, AND PARADES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO PERMITS.
THERE WERE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ASKED THAT WE REGULATE FIREARMS IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
I ALSO HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE MEMBERS OF A PARADE THAT MIGHT BE CARRYING FIREARMS, WHETHER IT WERE LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL, OR EVEN JUST THE COLOR GUARDS THAT COME WITH THE FLAGS.
I BENCHMARKED LOCALITIES AROUND OUR AREA AND THE STATE, I FOUND THAT VERY FEW LOCALITIES HAD USED THIS AUTHORITY TO REGULATE FIREARMS. AND ESSENTIALLY THEY WERE IN HIGH DENSITY LOCATIONS LIKE CITIES, THE FEW THAT DID IT, THAT'S WHERE THEY WERE ULTIMATELY, I'VE DETERMINED NOT TO INCLUDE FIREARM REGULATION IN THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU, I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE SHERIFF IN DOING THAT.
UM, WE CERTAINLY SHOULDN'T NEED THAT TYPE OF, UM, REGULATION WHEN THE PERMITTED EVENTS ARE PARADES AND FIVE KS, UM, PLANNED COMMUNITY EVENTS.
AND THAT IS A CONSISTENT POLICY PROVISION IN THIS SLIDE.
WHAT WE HAVE ADOPTED AS A CONSISTENT POLICY IS WE DON'T WANT TO BARRIER TO YOUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
WE WANT TO ALLOW YOU TO FREELY USE THOSE, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO IMPINGE ON YOUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS THAT WE'RE PROTECTING THOSE AS WELL.
SO I DO THINK THAT THAT IS CONSISTENT FOR BOTH THE FIRST AND SECOND AMENDMENTS IN THE PROPOSAL.
I WILL NOTE, UM, SINCE AGAIN, YOU'D HEARD EARLIER THAT THE GOOCHLAND DAYS CAME FORWARD AND SERGEANT MAY COULD TELL YOU HE'S GOT PEOPLE RIGHT NOW, PLANNING FIVE KS.
THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE IS ONLY FOR ANY APPLICATION THAT COMES IN AFTER IT'S ADOPTED.
SO NOBODY HAS TO WORRY THAT, OH, WAIT A MINUTE.
BUT I WAS HOPING TO DO SOMETHING IN NOVEMBER AND THAT THE, UM, IT WILL NOT AFFECT ANYTHING THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE OR ONGOING.
AND THEN I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T STOP AND ASK THAT YOU PERMIT ME TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION TO THESE FOLKS WHO IN FACT HAD A GREAT DEAL OF ENGAGEMENT IN THE PROCESS.
AGAIN, THE THREE MEMBERS OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT I'M AT RENT, UH, MET WITH SENT THEM VERSIONS OF THIS ORDINANCE WAY TOO MANY TIMES.
AND I WANT THEM, THEY WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, I GET SOME WISE COUNSEL FROM COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SINCE HE IS IN CHARGE OF PROSECUTING ANY VIOLATIONS.
AND THEN THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS LISTED WERE REGULARLY RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES.
I SENT THEM THE ORDINANCES AND ASKED FOR THEIR COMMENTS AND THEY VERY GRACIOUSLY, UM, PROVIDED ME FEEDBACK THAT RESULTED IN SOMETHING THAT HAS LED TO IMPROVEMENTS IN THE ORDINANCE THAT'S BEFORE YOU.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO YOU HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT IT.
AND BEFORE WE SEE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?
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THANKS.WITHOUT ANY OBJECTION, LET'S ROLL INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON OUR, ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION OF OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD, UM, FOR OR AGAINST, WITH ANY COMMENTS ON THE PARADE ORDINANCE YOU JUST HEARD, UH, PRESENTED, UH, PLEASE COME FORWARD SAYING RULES APPLY, UH, THREE MINUTES TRYING TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AFTER YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO BE HEARING FROM THIS, LIKE SHE'S AN ATTORNEY.
SHE COULD SUE ME, JONATHAN LEFT 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
UM, AND I DID SHARE COMMENTS WITH YOU EARLIER.
AND MY HOPE IS THAT IN ONE MINUTE AND 43 SECONDS, I'LL HAVE INCLUDED MY COMMENTS HERE TONIGHT, BECAUSE I HAVE SHARED WITH YOU WHAT I THINK I HAD THE BENEFIT OF A BRIDGEWATER COLLEGE DEGREE.
I READ THE EIGHT PAGES OF ORDINANCE AND IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO GET THROUGH IT.
AND, AND SO AS MS. MCGEE AND I HAVE BEEN TRADING INFORMATION OR COMMENTS, MY HOPE IS THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE WILL MAKE IT A VERY EASY CHECK BOX APPLICATION BECAUSE, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO BE UVA AND VIRGINIA TECH GRADUATES ARE GOING TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT.
AND I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE GOING TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S EIGHT PAGES.
SO, UM, I'M LOOKING OUT FOR THEM VMI.
UH, BUT, UH, I'M JUST SAYING, UM, I ALSO WAS SURPRISED THAT A BUILDING OFFICIAL IS LISTED AS HAVING THE, TO CANCEL AND SHUT DOWN, UH, AN EVENT, A PERMITTED EVENT.
AND I KNOW MR. FISHER IS NOW AN INTERNATIONAL BUILDING OFFICIAL AND HAS GREAT WISDOM AND INSIGHT AND POWER, BUT I STILL AM NOT SURE WHY A BUILDING OFFICIAL IS LISTED SPECIFICALLY HAVING THE RIGHT TO CANCEL OR SHUT DOWN A PERMITTED EVENT.
THE SHERIFF, I GET THE FIRE OFFICIALS I GET, BUT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL JUST, IT STILL CONTINUES TO POSSIBLY.
UM, AND I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT AS THE, MY COMMENTS.
SO, UM, MAYBE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ITERATE TO GREAT.
UH, BUT, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND WE WANT TO ALLOW PARADES AND EVENTS AND WE WANT TO PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY AND TRANQUILITY.
UH, THE, A PAGES CERTAINLY COVERS A LOT OF GROUND.
I HAD A CORPORATE ATTORNEY WHO SAID HIS JOB WAS NOT TO WIN COURT CASES FOR ME.
IT WAS TO KEEP ME OUT OF COURT.
AND SO WITH BUSINESS CONTRACT LAW, YOU HAD VERY EXTENSIVE AGREEMENTS THAT WERE KEEPING YOU OUT OF COURT, BUT, UH, IF IT COULD BE MADE SIMPLER, IF WE COULD ITERATE AND GET IT A LITTLE GREATER, I'D BE IN FAVOR OF THAT.
BUT I HAVE FAITH IN THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT IT WILL BE A CHECKBOX APPLICATION PROCESS LIKE BLINKED.
SO I OVERSET MY ONE MINUTE 43 SECONDS.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, UM, BOARD MEMBERS.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMENTS, ANY DISCUSSION, A MOTION? UM, JUST A QUESTION.
UM, MS. MCGEE IN THE SECTION 9 48, IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, W THAT THE MARCH THAT CAN PROCEED ALONG ANY STREET OR HIGHWAY AND SPONTANEOUS PERCEPTIONS.
MY QUESTION IS WHEN DOES THIS PROVIDE THAT CITIZENS? IF THERE'S A PROCESSION CAN DISRUPT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC BY MARCHING IN THE STREETS, OR DOES THE SHERIFF HAVE SUFFICIENT, UM, OTHER LAWS THAT CAN PREVENT, UM, THAT ACTIVITY? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT HAMPER HIM AND SAY, WELL, IT SAYS ALONG ANY STREET, DOESN'T SAY ALONGSIDE ANY STREET.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, UM, IT, ONE THING IT DOES NO LONGER INCLUDES IS SIDEWALKS.
IT USED TO ACTUALLY INCLUDE SIDEWALKS AND THE STREETS, AND WE'VE TAKEN THE SIDEWALKS OFF, BUT YES, WHEN THE SHERIFF AND I MET THIS SUMMER AND HE APPROVED, DECIDED THAT WE COULD TAKE OFF, UM, PERMIT PROCESS FOR SPONTANEOUS OR EXPRESSIVE THOSE FIRST AMENDMENT ACTIVITIES, UM, IT WAS BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER AUTHORITIES THAT HE HAS TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE, IF THEY'RE GOING TO MARCH, WHETHER IT BE IN THE STREETS, DECIDE WHAT CAN DO SO SAFELY, HE IS ENTITLED TO GIVE INSTRUCTIONS ABOUT, OKAY, WELL, YOU HAVE TO BE ON THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD.
YOU HAVE TO STAY ONLY TWO PEOPLE APART, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE TO ENSURE THAT THEY REMAIN SAFE AND THAT TRAFFIC CAN REMAIN SAFE.
AGAIN, HE MAY CHOOSE TO ALLOW THEM TO HAVE A LANE OF TRAFFIC IF HE CAN DO IT SAFELY, BUT HE'S ENTITLED TO GIVE THEM THOSE INSTRUCTIONS IN THE MOMENT AND ASK THEM TO FOLLOW THEM.
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THEN HE WOULD HAVE OTHER ACTIONS THAT HE COULD TAKE.SO A SPONSEE, COULD I JUST RESPOND TO MR. LYLES COMMENT? OKAY.
COULD YOU PLEASE RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION? THE REASON THAT A BUILDING OFFICIAL IS NAMED, AND AGAIN, THERE ARE, THERE ARE GROUNDS FOR SUINT TO WHICH YOU COULD, THEY HAVE TO OCCUR BEFORE THEY COULD BE REVOKED, BUT, UM, SOME, SOME PRAISE, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVER DONE THIS IN GOOCHLAND.
THEY MIGHT HAVE A GRANDSTAND OR ANOTHER TEMPORARY STRUCTURE PUT UP ASSOCIATED.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE A BUILDING OFFICIAL ITEM.
UM, THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THEY'RE LISTED THERE, BUT REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S THE FIRE, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL OR THE SHERIFF, IT HAS TO BE BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON, THAT'S GOING TO BE DANGEROUS OF SEVERE.
WEATHER'S MENTIONED NOT THAT YOU CAN AFFECT THAT, BUT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD NOT WANT TO HAVE THE PARADE IF THAT'S THE CASE, BUT THAT, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHY THE BUILDING OFFICIALS MENTIONED IS IF THERE'S A STRUCTURE INVOLVED, MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION OR OUT A LITTLE BIT? WE ALL SAW THIS AFTERNOON, THUS, WE WERE HERE, THE PRESENTATION, MY GOOCHLAND DAY, AND THEIR PROPOSED ACTIVITIES FOR NEXT YEAR INCLUDE A FERRIS WHEEL OUT RIDING BULL.
AND A LOT OF THINGS THAT I THINK WILL PROBABLY REQUIRE A SAFETY OFFICIAL TO REVIEW, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE AND ADEQUATE FOR THE CROWD.
SO AN EVENT LIKE, UM, GOOCHLAND DAYS, THAT'S GOING TO HOLD BOTH A PARADE AND A STATIC EVENT.
THERE THEY'RE LIKELY TO HAVE A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FOR WHAT'S ON PROPERTY, ON, YOU KNOW, AND THEN A PARADE PERMIT FOR WHAT'S COMING DOWN THE STREET AND THE FERRIS WHEEL AND SO FORTH.
I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY BE ON THE, ON THE GROUNDS, BUT, UM, THAT, WHICH IS, AGAIN, ONE REASON WHY ORIGINALLY WE THOUGHT MAYBE YOU COULD DO IT ALL AS ONE PROCESS, BUT THEY DO NEED TO REMAIN SEPARATE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, THE LIST OF PEOPLE THAT CAN SHUT DOWN THE EVENT.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYBODY FROM DOES NOT, UNLESS HE'S A DESIGNEE BECAUSE WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION BY EMAIL.
AND THAT'S ONE THING I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY FOR THE, UM, FOR THE, UH, THE PUBLIC OR THAT PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
I WAS SENDING THINGS OUT BY EMAIL AND RECEIVING COMMENTS BY EMAIL, MR. LYALL SAID TO YOU ALL, YOU KNOW, I'VE MADE MY THOUGHTS KNOWN TO YOU.
HE SENT YOU AN EMAIL, UH, PRIOR TO THIS, I JUST, I LIKE TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS AWARE THAT IT WASN'T SOME CONVERSATION OFFLINE, YOU KNOW, EMAILS, WHICH ARE, UH, OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THEY'RE FOIBLE OR SO FORTH, BUT THAT'S HOW WE WERE EXCHANGING COMMENTS.
RIGHT? SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, EMOTION, PERHAPS SOME DISCUSSION AND STAY ON TRACK.
MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT NORTON'S REPEALING GOODSON COUNTY CODE SECTION NINE 11, PRAISE AND POSSESSIONS GENERALLY, AND ADOPTING SECTIONS NINE DASH 46 THROUGH NINE DASH 4 58 RELATING TO PARADES AND POSSESSIONS.
I HEAR MR. SPOONFLOWER AND MR. PETERSON.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR, ANY DISCUSSION.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, TO KIND OF COMMENT, UM, WHILE LENGTHY, UM, IN, IN TEXTS, I DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, WHAT WE FOUND OR WHERE WE FOUND OURSELVES AFTER MUCH, I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT AN ORGANIZATION THAT RUSHES THINGS.
WE, WE DO WANT TO PUT OUT A GOOD PROCESS AND WE WILL ITERATE TO GREAT, BUT THAT WE TOOK, WE TAKE THE TIME NECESSARY.
UM, BUT TO ME, WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT NOT JUST, NOT ONLY REDUCES GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT, UM, AND MAKES THE PENALTIES LESSON AND KEEPS US FROM OVERREACHING.
THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE LOOKED AT, AS WE SAID, WE WOULD DO WITH OUR, WHEN WE RENEWED OUR ETHICS, THAT WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT IT IS FAIR.
UM, AND WITHOUT BIAS TOWARDS ALL PARTIES, NO MATTER WHICH, WHAT THEIR, THEIR, UH, THEIR PROTESTING OR WHAT SPONTANEOUS THINGS ARE GOING ON.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I'M PROUD OF THIS BOARD FOR.
AND THANK YOU, MS. MCGEE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK AND REACHING OUT TO SO MANY PEOPLE TO GET THE PUBLIC'S OPINIONS ON THIS.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE MOTION? AND IT'S JUST OVER SIX PAGES.
HE'S INCLUDING THE REPEAL OF THE EARLIER ONE.
I, I TOLD HIM THAT I DIDN'T SAY A WORD ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE SENT ME A FOUR PAGE EMAIL TO COMPLAIN ABOUT MY EIGHT PAGE ORDINANCE, BUT WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S PRINTED, IT'LL BE IN A SIX POINT FONT.
SO IT WILL ONLY BE TWO AND A HALF PAGE.
I THINK THIS, I THINK THIS HAS THE APPROPRIATE
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LIGHT TOUCH.I THINK WE GOT THERE TO ALLOW US, MR. SPOONFLOWER SAID, UM, I SAW THIS HAS, THIS HAS THE PROCESS THAT WE HAD SOME, A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS AND DON'T GET INTO THE DEFINITIONS.
AND, AND I APPRECIATE THE SHERIFFS PARTICIPATION AND, AND OTHERS WHO I THINK BEEN A TEAM EFFORT THAT HAS GOTTEN US TO A PRETTY GOOD PLACE AND LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, IF WE GO DOWN THE PAST AND WE FIND THAT ADJUSTMENTS ARE NEEDED, WE WILL BE RIGHT THERE TO MAKE THEM.
BUT I THINK THIS IS A GOOD, GOOD PLACE TO BE.
SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, WE WILL, UM, HAVE A ROLL CALL MR. ALBERT GERMAN.
ALL RIGHT, MS. MCGEE, I THINK YOU'RE STILL BEFORE US, AREN'T YOU.
SO THIS IS A ORDINANCE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, SECOND PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING ORDINANCE AMENDING COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 13 ON TAXATION.
I AM JUST, UM, THIS ORDINANCE IS AS MR. PETERSON LIKES
[2. 5136: Ordinance amending County Code Chapter 13 (Taxation), Article X]
TO HEAR TO COMPORT WITH STATE LAW, THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, ADOPTED AN, OR EXCUSE ME, A STATE LAW, UM, THIS PAST YEAR AMENDING THE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX SO THAT YOU COULD COLLECT IT FROM, UM, WHAT WE CALL ACCOMMODATIONS INTERMEDIARY.AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS EXPEDIA AIRBNB.
WHEN YOU ACTUALLY PAY FOR YOUR ROOM, NOT TO THE PLACE THAT YOU'RE STAYING, AND THAT REQUIRED US TO AMEND OUR TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX ORDINANCE.
I THANK THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, JENNIFER BROWN, AS WELL AS DEPUTY COMMISSIONER REVENUE, BRIDGETTE CARRINGTON, WHO'S HERE THIS EVENING, UM, FOR THEIR ASSISTANCE.
WE'VE BEEN MEETING ON THIS, BRINGING IT UP TO DATE.
UM, BRIDGET AND I ARE STILL WORKING ON CHANGING THEIR APPLICATION.
UH, BUT I DON'T HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION FOR YOU BECAUSE THE CHANGES ARE NEEDED TO COMPORT WITH STATE LAW.
IN ADDITION, I WILL SAY THAT WHAT'S BEFORE YOU HAS A GOOD NUMBER OF STRIKEOUTS AND LANGUAGE, BUT, BUT MOST OF THAT IS LANGUAGE NEEDED TO COMPORT OUR LANGUAGE TO THE STATE LAW DEFINITIONS AND TERMS IN ORDER TO THEN VERY EASILY BE ABLE TO INSERT THE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE, WHICH WAS SIMPLY TO REQUIRE ACCOMMODATION INTERMEDIARIES TO, UM, UH, COLLECT AND REPORT CHANGE IN OCCUPANCY TAX.
SO THAT'S BEFORE YOU, UH, AND FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERATION THE AMENDMENT TO TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX ORDINANCE.
AND THANK YOU MISS
UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY FROM THE BOARD, WE'LL ROLL RIGHT INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM.
ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO US, UH, REGARDING THIS MEASUREMENT OF TRANS TAX TAXATION AMENDMENT TO THE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX, UH, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AFTER YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, WE'RE MEMBERS OF MOTION OR ANY DISCUSSION OR MOTION AND DISCUSSION OR WHATEVER ORDER.
MS. JOE, GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
UM, I MOVED AT THE BOARD ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE AMENDING COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 13, ARTICLE 10, SECTIONS 13 DASH 2 65 THROUGH TO 70 DUE TO CHANGES IN STATE LAW, SPECIFICALLY TO REVISE THE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX REPORTING AND COLLECTION REQUIREMENTS.
WHEN A COMBINATIONS ARE BOOKED THROUGH AN INTERMEDIARY.
ANY DISCUSSION BOARD MEMBERS SEEING ON ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. ALVAREZ.
JAMIE SHERRY, OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO PRESENT A CONDITIONAL RENEWAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION
[3. 5144: District 4 - CU-2016-00005A - Kindle Rayfield requesting renewal of]
EXCUSE ME.THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ALVAREZ, I'M JAMIE SHERRY DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
OUR FIRST APPLICATION TONIGHT PERMIT BY KENDALL RAYFIELD FOR A COMMERCIAL KENNEL AND BOARDING FACILITY, UM, DOING
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BUSINESS AS FOR KINGDOM, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE BEHIND THE BROAD VIEW SHOPPING CENTER.THE PROPERTY IS ZONED B ONE BUSINESS GENERAL AND TO THE SOUTH.
THE PROPERTIES ARE ALSO ZONED TO BE ONE TO THE NORTH.
THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED M ONE BUSINESS LIMIT.
I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, INDUSTRIAL LIMITED, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS COMMERCIAL AS IT DOES FOR THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE ARIEL, UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING BUILDING THAT HOLDS THE KENNEL, UH, PARKING AREA.
AND THEN, UH, DID, WOULD LIKE TO NOTE, UH, YOU CAN SEE A FENCED IN EXERCISE, ANIMAL EXERCISE AREA THAT WE'LL BE DISCUSSING DURING THE PRESENTATION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A RENEWAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT WAS ISSUED BACK IN 2016 FOR A COMMERCIAL TENANT AND BOARDING FACILITY.
UM, SINCE, UH, IT'S BEEN ISSUED, THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS OR ANY VIOLATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY CHANGES FROM THE 2016.
UM, THIS WOULD BE INSTEAD OF A FIVE-YEAR RENEWAL WAS THE LAST ONE, ONE, THIS WOULD BE A FOR 10 YEARS.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THERE IS AN INCREASE TO A PERMANENT CONDITION OF ONLY HAVING FOUR ANIMALS OUTSIDE IN THE EXERCISE AREA AT ONE TIME TO 10 AT ONE TIME.
AND THEN ON STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE REMOVAL OF A NOISE CONDITION, UH, THAT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BE REMOVED.
UM, WE FOUND THAT, UM, ENFORCEMENT OF THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC.
IT'S LOCATED IN AN, A COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL INDUSTRIAL AREA.
THERE ARE NO RESIDENTS NEARBY.
THE CLOSEST ONE IS OVER 700 FEET.
UM, STAFF IS OUTSIDE WITH THE ANIMALS WHEN THEY'RE IN THE EXERCISE AREA SUPERVISED, AND THERE HAVE BEEN NO NOISE COMPLAINTS IN THE FIVE-YEARS COMEDIAN MEETING WAS HELD IN JULY BOARD MEMBER, MR. SHARP, AND ONE NEIGHBORING BUSINESS OWNER ATTENDED, UH, NO CONCERNS WERE RAISED.
IN FACT, ONE ATTENDEE SPOKE IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION AT THE SEPTEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON A FOUR ZERO VOTE.
AND NOBODY SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, THE 2016, UH, CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN DELETED.
UM, WE ARE NOW MOVING TO A MORE STANDARD, UM, CONDITIONS FOR THIS USE.
I DID WANT TO POINT OUT THE TWO, UH, ITEMS POINT AND YELLOW.
WE HAVE NUMBER FOUR, WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE N UH, FOR ANIMALS THAT WILL BE AN INCREASE IN THE NEXT, UH, ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND THEN THE NOISE WILL BE DELETED IN THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
THE FIRST CONDITION ALLOWS FOR THE USE OF THE BOARDING AND, UH, COMMERCIAL KENNEL.
UH, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN SAYS THAT ANY IMPROVEMENTS ON THE PROPERTY ARE CONSISTENT WITH THAT, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION, UH, HOURS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC WOULD BE FROM 6:30 AM TO 7:00 PM.
UH, THE, UH, FACILITY WOULD BE LIMITED TO 150 ANIMALS.
NUMBER FIVE WOULD MOVE UP TO 10 ANIMALS ALLOWED IN THE EXERCISE AREA.
AT ONE TIME, AGAIN, THEY WOULD BE SUPERVISED NUMBER SIX STATES THAT NEW ADJACENT PROPERTY SHOULD BE AFFECTED BY ANY ODOR COMING FROM THE FACILITY.
NUMBER SEVEN, THERE IS A FENCED IN AREA.
AS I POINTED ON THE AREA, THIS WOULD NEED TO BE MAINTAINED.
IT IS CURRENTLY SIX FEET IN HEIGHT.
UH, THE PROPERTY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE SIGNAGE ONE SIGN UP TO 50 SQUARE FEET AND 10 FEET IN HEIGHT AND NOT BE ILLUMINATED INTERNALLY.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS WOULD BE A 10 YEAR RENEWAL INSTEAD OF A FIVE-YEAR.
AND LASTLY, OUR STANDARD TRANSFER OR LEASE CONDITION, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL.
I CAN SHARE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME SEEING GOD WE'LL INVITE THE APPLICANT TO COME UP.
IF, IF YOU SO CHOOSE, DID SHE COVER EVERYTHING YOU WANTED TO? ALL RIGHT.
MA'AM UM, I DO HAVE, I DO HAVE A QUESTION MAYBE THAT JUST I'LL JUST TAKE CARE OF IT NOW.
UM, EXHIBIT A I'M LOOKING AT EXHIBIT A, WHICH APPEARS A COUPLE OF TIMES.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS IT SAYS THAT THE EXHIBIT EIGHT IS A PLAN.
I THINK SHE'D SAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO COMPLY WITH EXHIBIT EIGHT IN TERMS OF THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, DIDN'T I SEE SOMETHING THAT, YES, THAT'S IN THE CONDITION.
I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THAT MAY NOT BE ADMITTED FROM THE, UH, NO, NO,
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I THINK YOU HAVE IT IN THERE AND YOU DIDN'T NEED TO GO BACK.OH, YOU MEAN YOU WERE LOOKING FOR EXHIBIT THAT WAS IN THE STAFF REPORT.
IT'S APPEARS TWICE 1 0 7 AND ONE 11 QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE? I CAN'T TELL YOU, THERE IS NO WORK BEING DONE AND THAT IS, UH, THE CONDITION SPEAKS OF ANY FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS IS WHAT IT'S REFERENCING.
ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE MADE WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S ON.
SO THE, CAUSE WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, LIKE A LARGER WALKING AREA OR SOMETHING, BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING NO, NO, YEAH.
WHY, WHY THERE, THE, THE, THE, THE, THE CONDITION THAT OUTLINES THE NO LIT SIGN, IF YOU HAVE TO, SINCE WE DO NOW HAVE A SIGN ORDINANCE, IF THE APPLICANT WANTED TO COME BACK FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THAT, DOES THAT IMPACT THIS CONDITION? UM, YES.
THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE AMENDED FOR IT TO, UM, FOR THAT TO BE INTERNALLY LIT.
THIS WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT WAS CARRIED OVER, I BELIEVE FROM THE LAST OF ORDINANCE.
UM, SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL TRYING TO THANK YOU FOR FUTURE.
IF WE WANT TO CLEAR SOMETHING UP BECAUSE OF THE NEW ORDINANCE, WOULD IT BE THE SAME, UH, EITHER COME BACK FOR CONDITIONING, HIS PERMIT FOR THE SIGN, OR COME BACK WITH A CONVENTIONAL USE AMENDMENT FOR THIS? I MEAN, IS THAT PRETTY MUCH THE SETUP? UH, I'M ASKING, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO COME BACK TO PLACE SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T MEAN I NEED TO BE THERE NOW.
AND IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROCESSES? UM, SO, SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU ASK IS THAT, UM, THE CONDITION PROHIBITS THEM FROM LIGHTING THE SIGN INTERNALLY, AND FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO LIGHT THE SIGN INTERNALLY, UM, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REVISION IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
SO IT'D BE REVISING THIS ONE WITH THE NEW SIGN ORDINANCE.
WELL, I MEAN, IF THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO CHANGE THEIR SIGN DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IT SAYS HERE.
THEY, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO ASK TO AMEND THIS CONDITION.
IF THEY WANT SOMETHING LIKE AN ELECTRONIC MESSAGE SIGN THAT MAY BE REQUIRES ITS OWN CUP, THEN THEY GET ITS OWN CUP FOR AN ELECTRONIC MESSAGE.
THIS CONDITION I THINK WAS ADOPTED IN THE ORIGINAL ONE, THE APPLICANT HASN'T SAID THAT THEY HAVE ANY DESIRE TO CHANGE THEIR SIGNS.
SO IT'S SIMPLY CARRIED FORWARD.
IS THAT TRUE? YOU'RE GOOD WITH THE SIGN THE WAY IT IS.
BUT THE APPLICANT, JUST SO WE'RE RECORDING ALL THIS, THE APPLICANT SAID SHE'S GOOD WITH IT AS IT IS ASSIGNED TO JUST, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
UM, LET'S ROLL INTO THE PUBLIC, HEARING ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO US, SAME RULES, THREE MINUTES COME FORWARD FOR AGAINST, UM, AFTER YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF, PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN FOR THIS.
SO YOU P RENEWAL SEEING NO ONE COMING FORWARD, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BOARD MEMBERS.
MA'AM BECAUSE THE CHAIRMAN, UH, IS 10 YEARS OUR STANDARD AND WHY ARE WE DOING 10? IT COULD BE MORE WAR, UH, TRADITIONALLY, UM, WHEN THERE IS A USE OF THIS TYPE, UH, THERE WAS A FIVE-YEAR, UH, INITIALLY, AND THEN, UM, BEING THAT THERE'S NO COMPLAINTS OR ANY ISSUES WITH THE CURRENT BUSINESS AS IT'S OPERATED, UH, WE USUALLY INCREASED THE AMOUNT TO 10 YEARS AND THAT THAT'S STANDARD.
I MEAN, IT COULD BE HIGHER OR IT COULD BE LOWER IF THERE WAS THAT THE BOARD WISHES, BUT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN THERE JUST KEEPS IT UNIFORM WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO THERE'S A UNIFORMITY TO IT AT LEAST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU READY? I'M READY TO PROMOTION.
IF YOU'RE I'M READY TO GIVE ONE.
MS. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS GRANT CONDITIONAL PERMIT USE PERMIT.
SEE U 2016 DASH 0 0 0 0 5, A FOR RENEWAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ANIMAL BOARDING KENNEL COMMERCIAL AT 32 BRIGGS DRIVE ON TAX MAP, NUMBER 47 DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 43 DASH D.
SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
THANK YOU, MR. SHARP, THIS LAST COLLECT.
AND THE DISCUSSION BOARD MEMBERS ON THE NOTION, I WILL SAY I WAS AT, I WAS THERE.
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THE CITIZEN HAS SPOKEN IN FAVOR OF, IT WAS A VETERINARIAN, UH, WITH AN OFFICE NEARBY WHO, UM, HAD NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THE WAY THE BUSINESS IS RUN THE CLEANLINESS.UM, AND I SAW A BUNCH OF PEOPLE PICKING UP THEIR DOGS AND THEY WERE ALL REAL HAPPY, NO GRUMBLING CLIENT LOOKING CLIENTS.
WHEN THEY PICKED UP THEIR DOGS, THEY MUST BE DOING A GOOD JOB.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, MR. SHARP, ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ROLL CALL VOTE.
NEXT UP APPLICATION BY H AND S DEVELOPMENT GROUP, LLC, REQUESTING A CUP.
[4. 5142: District 4 - CU-2021-00007 - Application by H & S Development Group,]
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AGAIN, UH, JAMIE SHERRY DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.THE NEXT APPLICATION IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A CELL TOWER WITHIN LINEAR INDUSTRIAL PARK.
THIS APPLICATION IS BY H AND S DEVELOPMENT GROUP, LLC, AS I'D MENTIONED THE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE LINEAR INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE NORTH EAST NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE COUNTY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED M TWO, WHICH IS INDUSTRIAL GENERAL AS IS THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING IT WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK TO THE LEFT, UH, TO THE LEFT, EXCUSE ME TO THE WEST.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED A TWO, WHICH IS INDUSTRIAL LIMITED.
I MEAN, UH, AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY AS INDUSTRIAL, UH, THIS, UH, AS IT DOES THE SURROUNDING WITH THE WESTERN PORTION OF WESTERN ADJACENT PROPERTY BEING FLEXIBLE, THIS IS THE AREA OF THE PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS WITHIN A VERY ACTIVE PORTION OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.
UM, THIS IS A 2017 AERIAL PHOTO.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, INCREASED THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING SINCE THEN, WHICH IS DEPICTED GENERALLY WITH THE MARKS THAT ARE IN BLUE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST, WHICH IS AGRICULTURALLY ZONED IS, UH, PRIMARILY WOODED.
AND IT IS A VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
FCI IS A SUBSIDIARY OF H AND S DEVELOPMENT GROUP, UM, THAT THEY ACTUALLY ARE THE ONES THAT OPERATE IN OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE AT THIS LOCATION.
UH, THEY PROVIDE TRAINING AND WAREHOUSING, UH, TO THE TELECOMMUNICATION TELECOMMUNICATION INDUSTRY.
UH, THE PROPOSED CELL TOWER WILL BE MONITORED, UH, MONOPOLE AND STYLE, AND UP TO 154 FEET IN HEIGHT.
THE TOWER WILL BE LOCATED IN AN 800 SQUARE FOOT COMPOUND, AND THE TOWER WILL BE USED FOR CLIMBING TRAINING AND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO, UM, HOLD THREE WIRELESS CARRIERS.
CO-LOCATIONS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE IN THE RED, UM, THAT WILL BE THE LOCATION OF THE CELL TOWER AND THE COMPOUND.
UH, THE BUILDING, UH, THAT I HAD OUTLINED IN IS ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS.
I CAN SEE IT'S LOCATED RELATIVELY CLOSE TO THE BUILDING.
HOWEVER, IT IS 20 FEET FROM THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE AND MORE THAN 110 FEET FROM THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE.
BOTH OF THOSE NUMBERS MEET THE REQUIRED SETBACKS FOR A CELL TOWER.
BACK IN AUGUST, THE APPLICANT DID A BALLOON TEST AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED A PHOTO SIMULATION AS TO WHAT THE TOWER WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, UH, FROM, IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING IN, UM, TO, UH, WAS IT 1991 WHEN LINEAR WAS ORIGINALLY REZONED, THERE WERE, UH, PROFFERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUFFERS ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE YELLOW, UH, THE STARS WHERE THE LOCATION OF THE TOWER OF VIVA IN THE YELLOW, THERE IS A 50 FOOT REQUIRED BUFFER THAT WAS, UM, PROBABLY THERE BACK IN 1991, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THAT IT HAS BECOME A LITTLE BIT OF A LITTLE BIT SPARSE.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THIS AND THEY WILL HAVE TO, UH, PROVIDE EVERY PLANTING PLAN TO THE COUNTY PRIOR TO PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT APPROVAL FOR THE TOWER.
A COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD IN JULY, UH, BOARD MEMBER, MR. SHARP AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER.
MR. PATHAK WERE IN ATTENDANCE, NO CITIZENS WERE ATTEND IN ATTENDANCE AT THE MEETING.
THE APPLICANT GAVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT AND ANSWERED QUESTIONS PERTAINING TO 5G SERVICE AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE FOUR ZERO
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VOTE, AND NOBODY SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.UH, THE FOLLOWING ARE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
UH, NUMBER ONE, TO ALLOW FOR THE TOWER ON THE PROPERTY.
NUMBER TWO, FOR THE LOCATION OF THE TOWER TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CO UH, CONCEPTUAL PLAN, NUMBER THREE, THAT A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION.
THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER WOULD BE LIMITED TO 154 FEET.
NUMBER FIVE, ALL REGULATIONS, BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLIED WITH.
UM, AND THE LIGHT, THE TOWER WOULD NOT BE LIT UNLESS IT WAS REQUIRED BY THE FAA OR FCC.
UH, SO, UH, FOR SECURITY PURPOSES, A FENCE WOULD BE REQUIRED AT THE BASE OF THE TOWER AND NO BARBED WIRE WOULD BE ALLOWED.
NUMBER SEVEN, THERE SHOULD BE NO INTER THERE NO APPEARANCE WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR ANY EXISTING COMMUNICATION SYSTEMS. NUMBER EIGHT, THE TOWER WOULD BE A NON-REFLECTIVE NEUTRAL COLOR, AND THE BUFFER, UH, A REQUIRED BUFFER WOULD BE REQUIRED.
A VEGETATED BUFFER WOULD BE REQUIRED AT THE BASE OF THE, UM, THE BASE OF THE TOWER.
AND THAT WOULD BE, UM, APPROVED DURING THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PROCESS COUNTY.
CO-LOCATION THE COUNTY HAVE THE FIRST RIGHT OF REFUSAL TO CO-LOCATED ON THE TOWER, UH, CONSTRUCTION TIME LIMITS.
UH, THERE IS A TWO YEAR REQUIREMENT THAT THE, UM, UH, CONSTRUCTION BEGIN FOR THE, UH, UH, CELL TOWER, UH, THE INTERNAL ACCESS ROAD WOULD BE REQUIRED AND VERIFIED DURING PLAN OF DEVELOP ELEMENT TO ENSURE THAT USUALLY COUNTY FIRE AND RESCUE HAD, UM, ACCESS TO THE TOWER NUMBER 13, UM, 90 DAYS AFTER THE USE OF THE TOWER, UM, IS AFTER THE LIFETIME OF THE TOWER, THE TOWERS CUP WOULD BE ELIMINATED AS WELL AS THE TOWER WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED.
AND LASTLY, NUMBER 14 IS OUR STANDARD TRANSFER OR LEASE CONDITION THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IN THE AUDIENCE.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME FOR MISSIONARY.
SO, UM, THE SUMMARY OF THE INFORMATION SAYS THAT THE PROPOSED TOWER WOULD BE USED FOR TOWER CLIMBING, DRAINING, AND WOULD PROVIDE THE POTENTIAL FOR WIRELESS, UH, CARRIER CO-LOCATION.
SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ON RECONCILING THAT WITH YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT 5G.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THIS AS FAR AS I KNOW, AND THIS MIGHT BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE ARE NO, UM, THEY HAVE NO COMMITMENT OR WITH ANYBODY TO LOCATE ON THERE, THERE WOULD BE THE POTENTIAL FOR THEM.
THAT'S NOT THEIR MAIN PURPOSE OF HAVING IT.
I WASN'T AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
I'M ASSUMING THAT WAS JUST A CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD.
BUT AGAIN, THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, ANY OTHER, UH, UH, MIGHT HAVE ONE FOR THAT, BUT I'LL ASK YOU, UM, SO JUST IN THE CATEGORY OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER THIS EVENING ABOUT THE CORN FROM FIVE YEARS TO 10 YEARS, THE ONLY THING I SEE HERE IS THIS, IT EXPIRES 90 DAYS AFTER CESSATION OF USE OF THE TOWER FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES.
IS THAT THE ONLY THAT SUIT THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER AND THESE, AND THESE TYPES OF APPLICATIONS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY TIME LIMIT.
TYPICALLY WITH THIS KIND OF INVESTMENT, WE DON'T HAVE IT.
SO IT'S KIND OF EXIST AS LONG NOW, SEEING THAT EXPLORATION, IT GETS ME TO YOUR LAST POINT THERE, MAYBE AGAIN, IT'S FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T THINK THEY HAD ANY COMMITMENT FOR IT.
SO, AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU SAW ME, THEY THEY'VE GOT TO START USING IT FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS OR NO, JUST TO ERECT IT.
AND I GUESS AS LONG AS THEY'RE USING IT FOR, IF THEY DON'T EVER CO-LOCATE, I GUESS AS LONG AS THEY'RE USING IT FOR TRAINING, WELL, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS EXPIRATION AND REMOVAL SAYS.
OKAY, WELL, WE'LL CROSS THAT BRIDGE WITH THE APPLICANT.
WE CAN CLARIFY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM OUR WE'LL LET HER SIT DOWN AND, UM, APPLICANT WISH TO SPEAK TO US.
I MET WINSTON, THE DIRECTOR OF GENTLEMEN FOR FCI AND H S MAYBE MR. WATSON, DID YOU, DID YOU, DID YOU HAVE ANY WORDS YOU WANTED TO SAY IN ADVANCE? YOU JUST WANT TO FEEL THE QUESTION, MS. SHERRY DID A GREAT JOB COVERING IT, JUST LIKE, OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, WELL THEN I WILL INVITE EVERYBODY.
BUT MY QUESTION WAS, UM, AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS IT GOING TO BE USED FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS? IT, THE POTENTIAL IS THERE, UH, IT IS FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE OTHER TOWER.
THAT'S A MILE AND A HALF AWAY THAT IT COULD BE
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USED.WE HAVE HAD INTEREST BY T-MOBILE.
UH, BUT THAT'S NOT A GUARANTEE AT THIS POINT, IT'S STILL IN DISCUSSION.
SO SHOULD WE LOOK AT THIS EXPLORATION AND REMOVAL? THIS CUP OR CUP SHALL EXPIRE 90 DAYS AFTER CESSATION OF USE OF THE TOWER FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES? YEAH, I GUESS AS I READ THAT, I GUESS MAYBE IF YOU NEVER START, THEN YOU CAN NEVER STOP.
BUT I'M JUST THINKING LOGICALLY, YOU THINK IF YOU'RE NOT USING IT FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS FOR 90 DAYS TO CDP GOES AWAY, IS THERE, SHOULD WE ADDRESS MR. CHAIRMAN? IF I COULD.
I MEAN, THAT IS A STANDARD CONDITION FOR TOWERS, AND I THINK YOU'VE JUST HIT ON SOMETHING THAT ALL OF US, AS WE'VE REVIEWED IT DIDN'T REALIZE, WHICH IS THIS HAS A USE WITHOUT TELECOMMUNICATIONS.
AND SO, YES, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US AS TO STRIKE THE THREE WORDS FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES AND LEAVE IT JUST AFTER CESSATION OF USE.
BUT THAT'S JUST A STANDARD CONDITION.
AND I'M AFRAID EVEN THOUGH PROBABLY A DOZEN OF US READ IT, WE DIDN'T CATCH WHAT YOU GOT UP HERE THIS EVENING.
SO I PROBABLY WOULD RECOMMEND, I THINK MS. SHERRY'S NODDING HER HEAD.
WE'D PROBABLY RECOMMEND THAT WE, AND I DIDN'T EVEN GO TO BRIDGEWATER.
WELL, Y'ALL WANT TO FIX THAT AND, AND WE'LL CONTINUE.
SO IS THAT, IS THAT YOU'RE UPSET? YEAH, NO, I JUST, UM, CESSATION OF USE OR CESSATION OF VIEWS FOR TELECOMMUNICATION RELATED ACTIVITIES.
I MEAN, DO YOU WANT, DO YOU WANT TO INDUSTRY RELATED OR JUST, NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY FOR SUSTAINING THE TOWER FOR ANY PARTICULAR USE.
I THINK FROM, FROM THE MEETING THAT W THAT NIGHT, THE WHOLE REASON OF PUTTING THIS TOWER UP IS TO TRAIN PEOPLE.
GOD BLESS THEM TO GO UP THAT TOWER AND WORK ON WHATEVER THE THINGS ARE AT THE TOP THAT CHANGE THE SIGNALS.
UM, IT'S A TRAINING FACILITY, BUT IF SOMEBODY CAME ALONG AND SAID, WE WANT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THERE AT T-MOBILE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THEY WOULDN'T SAY NO, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE NOT ACTIVELY BUILDING THIS, LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO LOCATE ON IT.
YOU'RE BUILDING IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF TRAINING, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UH, OBVIOUSLY IF A CARRIER WANTS TO GO LOCATE THAT, THAT IS HELPFUL, BUT YEAH.
BUT YEAH, IT'S STRICTLY FOR TRAINING INITIALLY, AND THEN WHATEVER HAPPENS, HAPPENS.
UM, DO WE, HAVE WE AGREED ON, WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE WILL PUT THAT ON NOTHING ELSE YOU HAD FOR US.
BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.
UH, WE'LL HAVE PUBLIC HEARING ON NUMBER FOUR.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO US FOR OR AGAINST, OR COMMENT ON THE APPLICATION FOR THE TELECOM, YOU SHOULDN'T BE TELECOMMUNICATIONS TOWER AT 2385 LINEAR ROAD, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
UM, WE'LL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
BOARD MEMBERS MOTION DISCUSSION.
MR. SHARP, MS. CHAIR, I WOULD MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS GRANT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UH, FOR TELECOMMUNICATION TELECOMMUNICATION TOWER 2385 LINEAR ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE EMPLOYMENT CONDITIONS WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT ON THE, UH, CESSATION OF REUSE, USE OF THE TOWER AS WE'VE DISCUSSED.
COULD YOU PIN THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT? LET'S GO OVER.
HOW NUMBER 13 SHOULD READ, PLEASE, UH, SUGGESTING TO THAT MR. SHARP INTENDS FOR YOU AND IN THE FIRST SENTENCE OF CONDITION 13, TO REMOVE THE WORDS FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES, RIGHT? PAGE 1 27 AFTER CESSATION TELECOMMUNICATIONS FACILITIES.
SO JUST WITH THE ONLY AMENDMENT BEING, UM, JUST SENTENCE ENDS AT THOR TOWER, THE PERCENTS OF 13, AND WITH AMENDMENT THAT IT ENDS WITH THE WORD TOWER.
ANY DISCUSSION BOARD ON THAT MOTION? I WENT OUT INTO THE BOAT BALLOON TEST.
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SO I THINK IT'S GOOD.WELL, WITH THAT ENDORSEMENT, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR A ROLL CALL, MR.
BRING IT UP MR. LONG SHORE BREAK.
WE NEED A BREAK BEFORE WE CAN, BEFORE WE CAN LISTEN TO MR. LONG SHARP.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE, BUT DON'T GET Y'ALL A FEW MINUTES TO GET SET UP, UH, LIKE NOPE, NO LATER THAN QUARTER TILL LET'S GET BACK TO IT.
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RIGHT.THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THE BACK AROUND.
AND WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING EDITION, A PARCEL TO THE T C S D AMENDING COUNTY CODE SECTION 14 DASH 2 51.
OUR DIRECTOR OF UTILITIES IS GOING TO PRESENT THIS ONE.
[5. 4072: Ordinance amending County Code Section 14-251 (Tuckahoe Creek Service]
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.I'M MATT LONGSHORE, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC UTILITIES.
AND TONIGHT I'LL BE PRESENTING FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE CHAPTER 14, SECTION 2 51, AS IT PERTAINED TO THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT.
SO QUICK BACKGROUND ON THE DISTRICT, IT WAS CREATED IN 2002 AS A SERVICE DISTRICT TO PROVIDE WATER AND SEWER SERVICES, UH, WITHIN THE DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS A MECHANISM FOR PAYMENT OF DEBT SERVICE INCURRED BY THE DISTRICT.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY ABOUT 1900 PARCELS, UH, WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
AND THAT INCLUDES SUBDIVIDED PARCELS AND 2002, A SMALL AMOUNT OF PARCELS HAVE ENTERED AND BOTH EXITED THE DISTRICT.
SO THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TONIGHT IS DUE FROM A REQUEST, UH, FROM
UH, THE APPLICATION WAS ENTERED, UM, OR WAS FILED ON MAY 24TH OF THIS YEAR.
AND THE PARCEL CURRENTLY HOUSES ONE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING.
UH, THIS APPLICATION RELATES TO, UH, THE SAME PARCEL.
THAT WAS PART OF THE REZONING CASE FOR LAST MONTH'S BOARD MEETING, UH, IN RELATIONSHIP TO A 31 HOME EXTENSION TO THE PARKSIDE VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THERE'S ALSO A COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USE, UH, FOR THAT PARCEL.
THE LOCATION OF THE PARCEL IS JUST SOUTH OF THE HANOVER COUNTY LINE, RIGHT ALONG ASHLAND ROAD AND JOHNSON ROAD THEY'RE OUTLINED IN RED.
SO THE PROPOSED CODE CHANGE IF APPROVED TONIGHT WOULD BE TO SIMPLY ADD THAT PARCEL NUMBER IN THAT SECTION OF CODE.
UH, AND ALSO SAY THAT IT WAS CREATED ON MAY 24TH, 2021.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M JUST LOOKING UP ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. SHORE FROM THE BOARD MS. LAST GLANCE.
SO WE APPROVED, UM, THIS PROJECT LAST MONTH AND OUR BOARD MEETING, BUT WEREN'T ABLE TO DO THIS PIECE TACO GREAT.
I BELIEVE IT'S DUE TO THE ADVERTISING TIMING.
IT WAS A, YEAH, THE ADVERTISEMENT.
SO NORMALLY THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN HEARD AT THE SAME TIME.
IT'S A NUMBER OF THE QUESTIONS.
UM, WE'LL BEGIN THE PUBLIC HERE.
ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD ABOUT THIS REQUEST, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
THE PUBLIC HEARING CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPTERS, THIS ORDINANCE AMENDING GOOCHLAND COUNTY CODE SECTION 14 DASH 2 51 TO ADD THIS PARCEL INTO THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, MR. SHARP, MISS LASKA.
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ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ROLL CALL VOTE, MR. SPOON HOWARD.SO SIX PUBLIC HEARING OF THIS EVENING IS AN APPLICATION BY TOWN AND COUNTRY REALTY PARTNERS, LLC, AT JOY SCOTT, LLC, REQUESTING REZONING
[6. 4049: District 4 - RZ-2021-00005 Application by Towne & Country Realty]
UH, GO TO THE NEXT ONE THAT SAYS QUESTIONS.THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AGAIN, IT'S JAMIE SHERRY DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AS YOU STATED, THERE IS A REZONING CASE BEFORE YOU FOR A 65 ACRE PARCEL THAT IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF SONGBIRD LANE AND HOCKETT ROAD TO RESIDENTIAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH PROFFERS.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST OFF HOCKET ROAD IN THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED A TO AGRICULTURAL LIMITED AS IS THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, THE WEST, AND, UM, A PORTION OF THE EAST.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A, A PORTION OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS ADJACENT, THAT IS ZONED M ONE, UM, INDUSTRIAL LIMITED.
AND THAT IS A PORTION OF WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY TO THE NORTH IS A COUNTY OWNED PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHICH IS DESIGNATED, EXCUSE ME, DESIGNATED AS A PUBLICLY OWNED, UH, TO THE SOUTH.
IT'S ALSO A SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY TO THE EAST.
WE HAVE AGAIN, PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS PORTION OF WEST CREEK AND THEN RECREATIONAL OPEN SPACE.
UM, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THIS PROPERTY IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE DESIGNATED DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTY IS MOSTLY VACANT.
THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING LOCATED RIGHT HERE OFF SONGBIRD LANE.
SONGBIRD LANE IS LOCATED AT THE TOP OF THE PARCEL.
UM, THE PARCEL ALSO HAS, UM, TWO ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT ACCESS, UM, THEIR PROPERTIES THROUGH SONGBIRD AND AN ACCESS EASEMENT THAT LEADS TO THE PROPERTY OVER HERE ON WEST.
SO THIS IS THE EXISTING LOCATION OF THE SONGBIRD, UM, ROAD, AN ACCESS EASEMENT.
UM, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE MOSTLY AGRICULTURAL AND USE.
AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE SOME DESIGNATION TO THE EAST FOR OTHERWISE.
UH, THE HERMITAGE HAMLET, UH, SUBDIVISION IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH.
I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BRIEF HISTORY.
THE LAST TIME THIS APPLICATION WAS BEFORE HE WAS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.
SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF SUM UP HOW WE GOT HERE TODAY.
BACK IN MARCH, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING APPROXIMATELY 27 MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WERE IN ATTENDANCE CONCERNS RAISED AT THIS COMMUNITY MEETING INCLUDED IN CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ADDING PARCELS TO THE TCSD TRAFFIC CONCERNS NEED FOR BUFFERS.
THE NUMBER OF SCHOOL STUDENTS, THIS SUBDIVISION WOULD GENERATE AND THE SPEED LIMIT ON HOCKETT ROAD, EXCUSE ME, AT THE GYM PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, THIS, UH, APPLICATION WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL ON A 5 0 7.
PEOPLE SPOKE AT THE MEETING AND FIVE EXPRESSED OPPOSITION AT THE JULY SIX, UH, PLANNING BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING A PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED.
AND AT THAT MEETING, UM, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS VOTED TO DEFER THE MEETING TO THE SEPTEMBER BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING AT THAT MEETING.
THERE WERE CONCERNS, UM, ABOUT THE PROPOSED DENSITY, THE NEED FOR BUFFERS IMPACT TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, ESPECIALLY THE IMPACT OF THE RELOCATION OF THE ACCESS EASEMENT CROSSING THE PROPERTY, WHICH I REFERENCED IN THE ARIEL.
AND THEN LAST MONTH, UM, AT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DEFERRED THE APPLICATION TO THIS EVENING.
SO SINCE THE JULY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO THE APPLICATION.
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NUMBER OF LOTS IN THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION FROM 130 LOTS TO 65 LOTS.THEY'VE INCREASED THE MINIMUM WITH UP TO 90, UM, UP TO 90 FEET MINIMUM WITH TWO 90 FEET, THEY'VE REMOVED ANY OF THE PORTION OF THE STORM WATER POND FROM THE HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG HOCKET ROAD.
THEY REVISED THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO SHOW FEWER LOTS, UM, AND A SUBDIVISION ROAD THAT IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING EASEMENT OFF SONGBIRD LANE TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON ADJACENT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
UH, THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT IS BEFORE YOU, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS PROFFERED.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE TWO ENTRANCES ON THE NORTH ENTRANCE IS THE SONGBIRD LANE ENTRANCE.
AND THEN THERE IS A SECONDARY ENTRANCE, WHICH IS THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE IS APPROXIMATELY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, UM, SUBDIVISION.
I HAD MENTIONED THE ACCESS EASEMENT BEFORE.
UM, IT RUNS VERY SIMILARLY IF NOT, UM, EXACTLY, UH, WHERE THE ROAD ENDS AND THEN WHERE THE ACCESS EASEMENT BEGINS.
UH, THERE APPLICANT HAS ALSO, UH, PROVIDED, UM, WALKING TRAILS AND STREET TREES THAT ARE ALSO APPARENT ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, ALONG WITH SOME ADDITIONAL BUFFERS AND A BERM FOR SOME OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOW.
UH, THIS LAND DESIGNATION DOES RECOMMEND AN AVERAGE LAT SIZE OF TWO ACRES.
THE PROPOSED AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS 0.4, THREE ACRES, AND THE DENSITY WOULD BE ONE UNIT PER ACRE, NEITHER OF WHICH IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
HOWEVER, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT, UM, THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT IS RECOMMENDED TO OCCUR WITHIN THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA.
THE MORE DENSELY POPULATED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT, UM, WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE PLAN.
UH, THE, UH, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT REQUIRES PUBLIC UTILITY.
SO THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE IN THE TCSD.
UH, THE APPLICANT HAS APPLIED FOR ACCEPTANCE TO THE DISTRICT, AND THIS APPLICATION IS SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, IN ADDITION TO COMMUNITY INPUT AND AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUBLIC HEARING THE COUNTY HAS RECEIVED EIGHT MEME, EMAILS AND OPPOSITION 43 LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND A LETTER FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER IMPACTED BY THE RELOCATION OF THE ACCESS EASEMENT, UM, WITHDRAWING THEIR, UM, OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
THE PROFFERS THAT HAVE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS APPLICATION INCLUDED A DETAILED CONCEPTUAL PLAN, TURN LANES, OPEN SPACE TO INCLUDE WALKING TRAILS AND A GAZEBO SIDEWALKS AND STREET TREES, A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG HOCKET ROAD, MINIMUM, LOT WIDTH OF 90 FEET, UH, PERIMETER BUFFER, BUFFER BUFFERS VARYING FROM 35 TO 75 FEET FENCES AND BERMS ON CERTAIN SELECT, UM, PARCELS, A MAXIMUM OF 65 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UH, UM, RESTRICTION TO CONSTRUCTION HOURS AND A CASH PROFFER OF $9,810 PER LOT TO MITIGATE CAPITAL IMPACTS.
UM, I HAVE JUST GIVEN YOU A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROFFERS.
I DO HAVE ALL 17 PROFFERS IN DIFFERENT SLIDES.
I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE IF YOU WOULD LIKE, OR GO TO ONE SPECIFIC, IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
OTHER THAN THAT, THAT DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, THIS LAST PART.
SO ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT WAS MADE WAS REMOVED ANY PORTION OF A STORMWATER POND FROM THE A FOOT, UM, BUT FOR A LONG HOCKET ROAD.
SO, UH, TELL ME WHAT THAT MEANS AND LIKE GOODS THAT BAD.
WHAT IS THAT? THAT IS ACTUALLY A BENEFIT.
UM, THERE WAS SOME CURRENT CONCERNS AT THE JULY MEETING.
UH, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAD PROPOSED DID HAVE A PORTION OF THE STORM WATER POND WITHIN THE BUFFER.
AND ALTHOUGH THAT WAS ALLOWED BY ZONING, UM, IT DID RAISE SOME CONCERNS THAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME, SOME CLEARING KIND OF DIMINISHING THE BUFFER AT THAT POINT.
THAT I FEEL MY FOLLOW-UP AND THAT MAKES A, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
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AND I SAID, HOW YOU GOING TO GO THROUGH IT, BUT DOES THE WORK WITH THE CLICKER? YES.GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M JENNIFER MULLIN WITH ROTH JACKSON HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH THE REZONING WITH ME TONIGHT ALSO HAVE, UH, SCOTT GAZER AND JEFF KORNBLUH WITH THE APPLICANT, AS WELL AS ERIC STROH HACKER, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER FOR TECHNICAL QUESTION, I APPRECIATE MS. SHERRY'S PRESENTATION.
UH, AS SHE NOTED, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES CONTAIN FOUR PARCELS TOTALING JUST OVER 65 ACRES WITH OUR APPLICATION TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO RPU D THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON HOCKETT ROAD, WHICH DR.
ROAD, JUST NORTH OF THE HERMITAGE HAMLET AND KEN LOCKE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE COUNTIES, 87 ACRES.
THE REQUEST WAS BEFORE THIS BODY IN JULY WITH THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF 130 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ON THE 65 ACRES WITH EXISTING ACCESS EASEMENT RELOCATION THAT HAD NOT BEEN RESOLVED.
I COME BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WITH THE RESOLUTION OF THE EXISTING ACCESS EASEMENT AND A REDUCED DENSITY TO 65 SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS DEVELOPMENT IN THESE PLANS SINCE THE JULY HEARING, UM, WITH THE GUIDE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IDENTIFYING THE PROPERTY AS MS. SHERRY NOTED WITHIN THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA.
IN THE CONTEXT OF THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, WE THINK IS CONSISTENT WITH MANY COMPONENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND ONE THAT IS BEING REQUESTED, UM, AS WAS NOTED TO BE WITHIN THE TCSD, WHICH WAS NOT AVAILABLE AT THE TIME OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ADOPTION.
ONE THAT HAS A PROPOSED PROPOSAL.
ORIGINALLY, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL SITE PLAN AND MS. LASCOLA, YOU CAN SEE THE STORMWATER POND HERE.
UM, SO THAT HAD AN ORIGINAL 130 LOTS THAT HAS BEEN REVISED TO BE THE 65 LOTS.
SO AGAIN, YOU HAD THE 130 LOTS TO THE 65 LOTS.
UM, THIS CREATED A NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL BENEFITS THAT WERE DISCUSSED AT LENGTH AT THE JULY HEARING.
SO WE HAVE THE 100 FOOT BUFFER THAT IS ALL ALONG HOCKETT.
SO THE STORMWATER POND HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK HERE.
UM, WE MAINTAIN THE 50 FOOT BUFFER.
UM, THIS BUFFER NOW HAS ALSO A BERM.
SO WE HAVE FENCING ALONG ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUFFER HERE.
WE HAVE A BERM HERE, OBVIOUSLY MUCH WIDER AREA OF OPEN SPACE, 75 FEET HERE.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE JUST THE 35 FEET, WHICH IS THE CODE REQUIREMENT.
AND AGAIN, BACK UP TO 50 FEET, UM, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE THAT HAS NOW BEEN CENTRALIZED HERE.
SO THE BLACK AND WHITE VERSION HELPS YOU SEE WHERE THOSE PATHS ARE, UM, WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THIS SHOWS YOU JUST THE ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN.
UM, THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL ILLUSTRATIVE PLAN.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE PROPOSED, SO NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE, UM, THE BENEFITS OF THE PROFFERED, BERMS AND BUFFERS AND THE OPEN SPACE, WE HAVE INCREASED THE, THE LOT SIZE, REDUCE THE DENSITY.
AND THEN, UM, I THINK PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY FOR THE, UM, DISCUSSION FROM JULY WAS TO TAKE SONGBIRD LANE.
AND THIS IS, UM, THEN THE AGREEMENT THAT WE'D WORKED OUT WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER, WHICH REALLY CAUSED THE REDESIGN, WHICH ULTIMATELY BY THE STAFF COMMENTS, BOARD COMMENTS FROM JULY, AS WELL AS THE NEIGHBOR CONCERNS THAT WE'D HEARD REALLY HAVE MADE THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE THINK IS, UM, MUCH BETTER.
SO YOU HAVE A REDESIGN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, ALTOGETHER.
SO YOU CAN SEE FROM THE 132, THE 65 HERE.
SO YOU COME IN OFF OF SONGBIRD LANE, UM, THERE'S ONE ACCESS.
YOU HAVE A STUB ROAD HERE FOR A GROUPING OF LOTS, THAT MAJOR OPEN SPACE, UM, AND THEN ANOTHER GROUPING.
AND YOU HAVE YOUR, YOUR MAIN ENTRANCE.
MAIN ENTRANCE HERE, I'M COMING IN.
SO YOU NOT ONLY HAVE THE FEELING OF HAVING A, A RURAL DEVELOPMENT HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER, WHICH IS TREED.
SO THOSE TREES WILL REMAIN, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE PROFFERS.
AND I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THAT IN JULY, BUT THE PROFFERS WERE REVISED TO MAKE SURE BASED ON STAFF COMMENTS FROM, FROM DIFFERENT CASES, UM, THAT THAT WILL REMAIN TREED.
IF WE DO HAVE TO TAKE TREES DOWN, WE HAVE TO REPLACE THEM AT A CERTAIN HEIGHT.
UM, AND SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE THE TREES HERE, AS WELL AS WHEN YOU COME INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, THEN YOU SEE THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL GREEN OPEN SPACE.
SO, SO THERE'S A LOT OF GREEN, UM, INVOLVED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE THINK HAS REALLY MADE IT, UM, A BETTER, A BETTER DEVELOPMENT AND BEEN REVISED IN A POSITIVE WAY.
UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT ALSO HAS THE REQUEST FOR THE TCSD, WHICH I KNOW IS A SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I'M HAPPY TO, TO ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.
UM, WE WILL BE BRINGING WATER DOWN HOCKETT ROAD, WHICH IS ALREADY INCLUDED
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IN THE COUNTY CIP.WE'D BE BRINGING ABOUT 4,000 FEET AT THE EXPENSE OF THE DEVELOPER, TAKING IT OFF OF THE COUNTY FOR, FOR THAT PERSON, THAT PORTION.
SO THAT'S NOT ONLY CONSISTENT WITH THE PUBLIC UTILITIES PORTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THAT WOULD BE, UM, DONE AND INSTALLED BY THE DEVELOPER, UM, THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR, YOUR APPROVAL BOARD MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
IF THE BOARD HAS NO QUESTIONS THAT DOESN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HERE.
SIX PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION NOW FOR APPLICATION Z 2021, NUMBER FIVE TO REZONE 65.2 TO SEVEN ACRES OFF OF HOCKETT ROAD AND SONGBIRD LANE.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD OUT THIS APPLICATION AND SAME GUIDELINES APPLY, JUST PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
HI, MY NAME IS JANE SCHROEDER AND I LIVE AT 365 HAMLET ROAD, MANNEQUIN SABOT.
AND MY, UH, I'M HERE AS THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE HERITAGE HAMLET HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
UH, W WE, UH, HAVE REALLY REVIEWED THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED, UM, DEVELOPER HAS KEPT US INFORMED AS TO WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING.
AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, BY A MAJORITY VOTE AGREED TO NOT OPPOSE, UH, THE, UM, DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME, UM, PROPERTIES THAT ARE TOUCHING THAT PROPERTY THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THE BERMS AND THE FENCING THAT ARE GOING TO BE GOING IN AND FEEL LIKE THAT THAT'S GOING TO GO WORK WELL.
AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE OF COURSE, LESS HOMES AND THINK THAT THAT WILL BE IN ADDITION, A GOOD ADDITION TO, TO OUR AREA.
WE'RE STARTED HERE, SO I DON'T GO OVER.
I LIVE AT 2, 2 6, 2 WHEAT ON HIS DRIVE MANNEQUIN SABOT.
SO WHAT DOES A BIT OF NONCOMPLIANCE LOOK LIKE IN YOUR DISTRICTS TONIGHT? DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE, A LITTLE BIT OF NONCOMPLIANCE LOOKS LIKE MEDIUM DENSITY WILL BE REPLACING LOW DENSITY VIA MUTUALLY.
REMEMBER TO COMPROMISE IS TO AGREE TO SESSIONS THAT ARE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL TO BE COMPROMISED IS TO BE EXPOSED DISCREDITED OR CAUSE IMPAIRMENTS, WHICH WILL THIS BE ONLY TIME WILL TELL IN THE FUTURE.
I'M SURE THE COMP PLAN WILL BE REVISED, ESTABLISHING MEDIUM DENSITY IN THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS AND THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT AS THE NEW NORMAL.
AND I CAN ALMOST GUARANTEE THE NEXT FEW RPU D REZONINGS AND THE MEDIUM DENSITY DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS WILL BE ABOVE MEDIUM DENSITY INITIALLY.
AND YOU WILL BE EXPECTED TO COMPROMISE JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER THE REQUIREMENTS AGAIN AND AGAIN.
SO LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF CONSTRUCTIVE, NOT CRITICISM, BUT RATHER FEEDBACK BECAUSE I DO RESPECT YOUR TIME AND YOUR TALENTS AND YOUR PUBLIC SERVICE.
BUT HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHAT THIS BOARD'S APPARENT REPUTATION IS WITH DEVELOPERS AND CITIZENS? HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHY REZONING CASES ARE SO PAINFUL? WHY ARE WE REPEATEDLY HERE EXCEPT TONIGHT UNTIL MIDNIGHT WHEN THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROVERSY AND WHILE THERE ARE SO MANY DEFERRALS FOR, FOR REZONING CASES OVER AND OVER? WELL, IN MY OPINION, IT'S BECAUSE THIS BOARD IS TOO WILLING TO NEGOTIATE, HAGGLE AND COMPROMISE RIGHT UP TO THE POINT OF VOTING AND THEN VOTE A DEFERRAL.
IF THE CASE IS STILL NON-COMPLIANT BUYING THEM MORE TIME.
SO IF YOU WANT TO GET OUT OF HERE AT A DECENT HOUR DURING CONTROVERSIAL REZONINGS AND START FEELING LESS PAIN, THEN START VOTING STRAIGHT UP OR DOWN THE TIME FOR HAGGLING IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE SAUSAGE NEEDS TO BE MADE.
SO WHEN THE DEVELOPERS PRESENT A NONCOMPLIANT
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REZONING CASE NEEDS TO BE VOTED UP, IF IT'S IN COMPLIANCE DOWN, IF IT'S NOT, AND START OVER A YEAR LATER AFTER A NOVA, WHEN IT'S NONCOMPLIANT IN TWO OR THREE CASES, WHEN A DEVELOPER HAS TO WAIT A YEAR TO BRING SOMETHING BACK, THEY WILL STOP BRINGING NON-COMPLIANT CASES UP FRONT AND ONLY THEN WILL YOU HAVE THEIR ATTENTION AND THEIR RESPECT.LET ME GET MR. WILLIAMSON, SANDRA WARWICK, 3 6 7 ROAD MANNEQUIN.
I WANT TO COMMEND THE APPLICANT FOR TAKING THE OBJECTIONS TO THE INITIAL PROPOSAL TO HEART AND MAKE SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS PROPOSAL IN, IN DENSITY AND ADDRESSING MR. VINSONS RIGHT AWAY.
UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PROFFERS.
UH, I THOUGHT SOMEWHERE, I SAW THAT THESE WERE PROFFERED SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED HOMES, ONLY MS. SHERRY DID NOT GO INTO THAT.
UM, I BELIEVE THE 65 LAW PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU WILL HARMONIZE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA AND OBSERVE THE SPIRIT, IF NOT THE LETTER OF THE COMP PLAN, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THE DENSITY SHOULD BE CONCENTRATED IN THE VILLAGE AND THIS IS OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE.
SO THIS IS A GOOD, A GOOD COMPROMISE.
AND WITH APOLOGIES TO MR. WILLIAMSON, SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA BREAK SOME EGGS TO MAKE AN OMELET.
I THINK THIS WILL BE INAPPROPRIATE, UH, PROJECT.
UM, I ASKED YOU TO BE, UH, PROVE THIS BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL SEND A CLEAR SIGNAL TO FUTURE APPLICANTS THAT THE CLOSER THEY COME TO THE COMP PLAN, THE SOONER AND EASIER THEY WILL GET APPROVAL.
AND AS MR. PETERSON SAYS, OFTEN MONEY IS TIME OR TIME IS MONEY, AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET THIS STUFF DONE.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THANK YOU, MISS ONE MORE WORD.
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE I LIVE? 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
UM, I WAS GOING TO DEFER TO MR. BENSON'S, UH, COUNSEL THAT, UH, NATURE POURS A VACUUM AND NOBODY WAS TALKING.
UM, I'VE BEEN IN THE COUNTY ABOUT 31 YEARS NOW WHEN I MOVED HERE, UH, PARKER PROPERTIES, ONE OF THE REAL ESTATE FIRMS, STILL REAL ESTATE FIRMS IN THE COUNTY HAD A BUMPER STICKER THAT SAID
AND YOU MAY RECALL I'VE USED THAT BUMPER STICKER AND THAT SLOGAN OR COMMENTARY IN SOME OF MY PRESENTATIONS THROUGH THE YEARS.
AND, AND I DO HOPE DEARLY THAT WE WILL SEE THE COUNTY CONTINUE TO GROW BECAUSE GROWTH IS INEVITABLE.
UM, THERE'S GOING TO BE NO STANDING STILL WE'RE EITHER GOING TO GO FORWARD OR BACKWARDS.
UH, I APPRECIATED THE DEFINITIONS OF COMPROMISE.
YOU CAN HAVE COMPROMISED IMMUNITY, A COMPROMISED BANK ACCOUNT, OR YOU CAN HAVE A CONTRACTUAL COMPROMISE.
AND SO I THINK THIS IS MOVING A LITTLE BIT FROM BOTH SIDES.
UH, WOULD I PREFER TO SEE LOW DENSITY OF 32, UH, HOUSES ON THIS PLOT OF LAND? YES, IT WOULD.
BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT SURROUNDING AREAS HAVE GOT ONE ACRE PARCELS PROPERTIES.
SO, UM, I EXPECT THAT THIS WILL BE APPROVED TONIGHT AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
I'D ALSO BE OKAY IF YOU DEFER IT AND SAID, WE'D LIKE TO SEE TWO ACRE LOTS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MR. PETERSON WANTS EVERYBODY TO GO HOME HAPPY.
AND SO I WOULD BE OKAY, HAPPY GOING HOME TONIGHT WITH A 64 65, UH, PARCELS OR HOMESITES ON, ON THIS PARCEL.
UM, I'LL DO HOPE TO CONTINUE TO SEE GOOSE AND GROW GRACEFULLY.
UH, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET TO A 70, 30 COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL TAX BASE.
AND PART OF THAT EQUATION, AT LEAST WITH BRIDGEWATER MATH, IS THAT WE SLOWED DOWN THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH TO ALLOW THE COMMERCIAL TO CATCH UP.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M ANTICIPATING, I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ARE GOING TO BE SURPRISED HOW THE VOTE MAY GO HERE.
BUT I THINK, UH, TO MR WILLIAMSON'S COMMENTS, IF THE BOARD SENDS A SIGNAL, THAT'S SAYING LET'S NOT SEVERELY DEVIATE FROM THE COMP PLAN WITH PROPOSALS, WE'RE GOING TO SEE FEWER AND FEWER HIGH DENSITY PROPOSALS COMING IN AND LOW OR MODERATE DENSITY AREAS ON THE COMP PLAN.
SO THE LIGHTS FLASH AND I'LL SIT DOWN.
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LINDA MO 2164 PROFIT ROAD, MANNEQUIN SABBATH.I DO APPRECIATE THIS BOARD MORE THAN YOU CAN EVER IMAGINE.
UM, UH, ESPECIALLY IN THIS WORLD TODAY WHERE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF THE BOARD, UM, OPENS YOU UP TO RIDICULE.
UM, I'VE NEVER FELT THAT ANYTHING I'VE EVER SAID WAS MISS TAKEN.
UM, AND THAT I WAS CALLED ANY, UH, UNFLATTERING NAMES, UM, AS WE, AS OUR OTHER COUNTIES TO THE NORTH OF US OF FEEL, UM, THAT THEY ARE SUFFERING, THAT BEING SAID, UM, THIS IS PROBABLY THE FOURTH OR FIFTH TIME THAT, UM, WE, OUR CITIZENS, UH, HAVE COME TO YOU TO TRY TO, UM, GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY THE MOST PAINFUL THINGS IN THE WORLD TO DEAL WITH, BUT I RESPECT THAT, THAT WE HAVE MANAGED TO KEEP OUR DIGNITY AND GET TO A PRODUCT THAT WE CAN LIVE WITH.
UM, YES, I, I DO SHARE, UM, ROB'S UM, MR. WILLIAMSON'S AND, AND, AND JONATHON'S, UM, THAT THE PROCESS SOMETIMES TAKES AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY ON EVERYBODY'S PART.
UM, NOT JUST, NOT JUST THE DEVELOPERS, BUT ON THE COMMUNITY, UM, TO, TO COME TO RECKON WITH WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
UM, WELL ACTUALLY FOR MY LIFETIME, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, UH, SO I WOULD, LIKE I SAID, I DO FEEL THAT WE ARE, UM, AT A POINT IN TIME RIGHT NOW WHERE THE PROPERTY IS IN A DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA, AND WE NEED TO RESPECT THAT.
AND I'M SURE GLAD FOR MR. VINSON THAT HE'S, HE'S AT PEACE.
AND THEY HOLD THE WHOLE, UH, TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT NOT FEELING RIDICULED AND BEING WELCOMED TO SPEAK.
AS WE HEARD EARLIER, THAT THAT WORKS TOO.
WE, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT WE FEEL WE FEEL UP HERE THE SAME WAY THAT YOU ALL ALWAYS RESPECT US AND TREAT US KINDLY SITE WHERE WE'RE LIVING.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, MS. MOLLY, DID YOU, DID YOU WISH TO COME UP AND SAY, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING, ANY, ANY COMMENTS OR, UM, JUST ONE NIGHT, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT YOUR RESERVING ANY TIME, BUT YOU CERTAINLY HAVE TIME IF YOU WANTED TO RESPOND.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
IT'S PROPER NUMBER FIVE, THAT TALKS ABOUT THE SINGLE FAMILY.
I WAS LOOKING UNDER, BY RIGHT UNDER OUR, AND I WAS LOOKING AT, OF COURSE AT YOUR PLAN OR YOUR YEAH.
SO OUR, IT IS NOT ONLY OUR PLAN, BUT THEN IT IS ALSO, THE DENSITY IS NO MORE THAN 65 DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS.
BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY COMING UP AND FIELDING THAT ONE FOR US.
UM, DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT PAGE YOU WANT TO KNOW? WHAT PAGE ARE YOU LOOKING AT? THE PAGE OF 1 63, 1 62 STARTING AT 1 62.
SO, UM, WARD MEMES, UH, THAT CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MS. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED THE REZONING CASE, OUR Z 2 0 2 1 DASH 0 0 0 0 5 4 65 0.227 ACRES ON
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SONGBIRD LANE AND HOCKETT ROAD FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED TO RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.ANY DISCUSSION MR. PETERSON? YEAH, CHAIR.
UM, EARLIER TONIGHT WE CONSIDERED THE PARADE ORDINANCE AND THAT TOOK THREE YEARS MAYBE WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH.
UM, BROAD CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT ISSUES WERE BROUGHT TO BEAR.
WE WORKED THROUGH THOSE ISSUES OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND GOT TO, UH, WHAT I THINK IS A BETTER SOLUTION OR A BETTER ANSWER.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR AND THAT THIS CAME IN INITIALLY, UM, WITH REQUESTS THAT HAD SOME ISSUES ATTACHED TO IT AND WAS DEFERRED SEVERAL TIMES.
AND DURING THAT, THOSE DEFERRALS, THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE OUTREACH TO EFFECTED, UM, ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND AFFECTED CITIZENS AND COUNTY STAFF.
AND THROUGH SOME OF THE HEARINGS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND INITIAL ONES IN THE BOARD.
AND, AND DURING THAT PROCESS, THERE WAS A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHO GAVE AND WHO TOOK, BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKE.
AND THE IDEA THERE IS TO GET TO A BETTER SOLUTION, ONE THAT, UH, UH, MAYBE IT DOESN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, BUT AT LEAST GETS YOU TO A PLACE WHERE IT'S, UM, RESOLVES A LOT OF THE OPEN ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED.
SO THIS IS JUST IN MY MIND IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH CITIZENS TO TRY AND GET TO A BETTER SOLUTION AND RESOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES RATHER THAN JAMMING THINGS THROUGH.
SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, MR. CHAIR.
YEAH, I GOT ON THIS BOARD BECAUSE THE GUY SITTING TWO SEATS DOWN FROM ME AND PUT ME ON THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.
AND, UM, I, I HAD TO TAKE A TWO DAY CLASS ON LAND USE, WHICH YOU WOULD THINK IT WOULD JUST BE LIKE STEREO INSTRUCTIONS, NO OFFENSE PLANNING PEOPLE.
UM, BUT IT WAS FASCINATING BECAUSE WHAT WAS TWO DAYS OF JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT NO TWO PROPERTIES ARE THE SAME AND THAT THE REASON THAT IT'S SET UP THIS WAY IS SO THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS OR THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS.
AND THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS WILL NOT DEVELOP.
UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU, TO BE HONEST, THIS, UM, WE SHOULD HAVE REVIEWED THE COMP PLAN DURING COVID, BUT WE JUST, WE HAD OTHER STUFF GOING ON AND WE DIDN'T.
SO I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES IT DOES SEEM FRUSTRATING THAT WE DO IRON A LOT OF STUFF OUT.
AND MR. SHARP AND I WERE MANY A NIGHT TILL PAST MIDNIGHT IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM WHEN WE WERE RUNNING FOR THIS GUN AND WE SHARE, WE WANT TO DO THIS.
UH, BUT WE DID BECAUSE IN INEVITABLY WHAT I THINK OUR DEVELOPERS KNOW, AND MR. GAZER, UM, COULD PROBABLY ATTEST TO THIS IS WE EXPECT FOLKS TO WORK IT OUT.
IF THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT I GET WHEN I GET THE MOST VOCAL AND I USUALLY DON'T GET UNTIL IT COMES TO THIS UNTIL IT GETS TO HERE, IS THAT WHAT I HEAR THAT FOLKS DON'T WANT TO MEET WITH THE CITIZENS.
THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK IT OUT.
SO WE DO HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF HASHED OUT THERE, UNLESS YOU'RE WAVES IN IS BECAUSE THE PREVIOUS BOARD REALLY TRIED TO FAST TRACK THAT PROCESS BECAUSE IT WAS TAKING LONGER.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE REALLY OFFICIALLY BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF AN APPLICATION IS GOING TO BE SUBMITTED.
SO YOU HAVE THE APPLICATION, THE, THE MEETING THAT TALKS ABOUT THE PRE-APPLICATION, THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHEN YOU REALLY GET TO HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS, AFTER THERE IS REAL, UH, DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD.
I WOULD NOT CALL IT, COMPROMISE THAT I CALL IT WORK.
THEN WE GO TO WORK AND WE TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
AND I KNOW THAT THIS BOARD GOES OUT OF ITS WAY TO PROTECT ITS CITIZENS.
AND WE SEE THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND WHEN, UH, DEVELOPERS DON'T DO IT RIGHT, WE'VE GOT A TEAM THAT MAKES SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING IT RIGHT.
WHETHER IT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T BARRIERS, AREN'T MAINTAINED THAT WE MAKE THEM GO BACK AND PUT THEM UP.
SO, UM, TRUST ME, I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE A LITTLE BIT AFTER ONE.
I DON'T LIKE STAYING HERE TILL AFTER MIDNIGHT, BUT I'M WILLING TO DO IT TO GET I'D RATHER BE RIGHT THAN BE RUSHED.
UM, THE FENCING, THAT'S GONNA GO UP ALONG THE SIDE.
IS THAT GOING TO BE IN THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION REQUIREMENT THAT THEY MAINTAIN IT IS THAT PART OF, BECAUSE TOO OFTEN FENCES GO UP AND WOOD DOESN'T LAST OVER A FEW YEARS AND FENCING STARTS TO ROT AND FALL APART.
PURSUANT TO PROFFER FOR ALL OPEN SPACE GOES TO THE HOMEOWNER, BUT I JUST LIKE THAT VERIFY THAT IT'S ALSO ABOUT OUR ORDINANCE.
AND THE SECOND, THE SECOND THING IS TREE BUFFERS.
UM, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT TREE BUFFERS, A TREE BUFFERS.
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IT TO LOOK RURAL.UM, SOME PEOPLE COME IN AND THINK THAT IF WE MAKE IT LOOK LIKE SHORT PUMP WITH GRASS AND PRETTY TREES AND ALL THESE THINGS, IT LOOKS LIKE A CITY.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT LOOK LOOKING RURAL.
SO I JUST ASKED THAT DON'T GO TAKING DOWN TREES JUST WITH THE THOUGHT OF GEE.
WE CAN PUT SAPLINGS BACK AND FIX IT BECAUSE IT, IT DOES DESTROY THE, THE BEAUTIFUL RURAL OF DRIVING DOWN HOCKET ROAD.
THANK YOU, MR. SHARP, ANYBODY ELSE? AND, UM, MR. WILLIAMSON, I THINK YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS ARE DIRECT WORDS WERE I APPRECIATE THEM.
AND I THINK YOU KIND OF THINK ALL OF US, YOU GOT US THINKING ABOUT THINGS.
IF WE THINK ABOUT A LOT AND, AND THE BIGGER PICTURE, I AGREE WITH MR. SPOON, OUR SIDE, AND I APPRECIATE SOME PEOPLE GENTLY PUSHING BACK THERE.
W WE, I THINK OUR PROCESS CAN ALWAYS BE IMPROVED, BUT I THINK, UH, THE TIME THE TIMEFRAME, AND OF COURSE, DEVELOPERS, WE KNOW DEVELOPERS WANT CERTAIN THINGS THAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE.
UM, BUT IN ADDITION TO THE THINGS THAT MR SPOONER SAID, AS THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THIS BOARD CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND THE ROLE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT'S, IT'S GOING, IT'S GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE WE DON'T LIKE TO DO THIS.
SO IF THERE'S A WAY TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS AND CHANGE IT SO THAT MORE OF THIS GETS WORKED OUT EARLIER, WE WOULD WELCOME THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT'S JUST PART OF THE COUNTY GROWING.
AND, BUT BELIEVE, BELIEVE ME, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF THOUGHTS AND DISCUSSIONS INDIVIDUALLY AND IN OUR SMALL GROUPS ABOUT THE PROCESS AND, AND STAFF WORKS HARD TO, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS, BOTH FOR CITIZEN PARTICIPATION AND, AND FOR DEVELOPERS UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, THE EXPECTATIONS.
SO, BUT I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE, WE HEAR YOU.
WE, WE, WE DID, WE DID LISTEN TO 15 SECONDS TO RESPECT THE JOB ALL DAY, AND I FULLY EXPECT FULL, YOU KNOW, HARD WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER THAT, AND ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL THIS, MAYBE I KNOW YOU GUYS DO A FANTASTIC JOB DOING THAT, AND I DO RESPECT WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
AND MY ONLY POINT WAS IN THE MEETING TO REVIEW AND APPROVE LAST MINUTE IS NOT THE PLACE TO NEGOTIATE OR COMPROMISE OR WORK WITH.
LET'S POP POINT SHOULD BE AN UP OR DOWN.
YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB GETTING THESE CASES BEFORE PUBLIC AND ALLOWING US TO SPEAK.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER COMMENTS, A ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
AND OUR LAST, UM, PUBLIC HEARING IS MR. LONGSHORE IS GOING TO FEEL THIS ONE AGAIN.
UH, YOU GOT THE TWO TOUGH ONES.
[7. 4043: Ordinance amending County Code Section 14-251 (Tuckahoe Creek Service]
I'LL TRY TO MAKE THIS ONE LAST TILL MIDNIGHT FORI'M GOING TO READ THE CODE WORD FOR WORD.
MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AGAIN, I MET LONE SHORE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC UTILITIES ON, SO I'LL BE PRESENTING THIS FOR PUBLIC HEARING.
ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE TRIED THE 14 SECTION 2 51, SINCE THIS IS THE SECOND LIGHT PRESENTATION, UM, LIKE THIS TONIGHT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SPARE YOU THE DETAILS FOR ROUND TWO AND GO STRAIGHT INTO, UH, THE MEAT OF THE AMENDMENTS.
SO THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT THAT'S RELATED TO THE REZONING CASE YOU JUST HEARD.
UM, AND THIS IS DUE TO A REQUEST FROM SONGBIRD LLC AND MR. GREGORY PRETTI TO ADD THE SAME FOR TAX MAP PARCELS TO THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT.
UH, THE COMBINED AREA OF THESE PARCELS IS 69.4 ACRES.
UH, THE APPLICATIONS WERE ENTERED, UM, IN APRIL AND JANUARY OF THIS YEAR.
UH, THE THREE SONGBIRD PARCELS ARE CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND, UH, THE PARCEL OWNED BY MR. PREDDY CURRENTLY SERVES AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
UH, THESE ARE THE SAME FOUR PARCELS.
UH, YOU ALL JUST LOOKED AT IN THE REZONING CASE.
UH, BUT AGAIN, HERE IS THERE THEIR LOCATION
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RIGHT ALONG HOCKETT ROAD, UM, AND A PROPOSED CODE CHANGE WOULD BE TO SIMPLY ADD THESE FOUR TIMES MOUNTAIN NUMBERS TO THAT CODE SECTION.SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, PRIOR TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
NOW HOW, JUST TO KEEP YOU ON YOUR TOES, HOW DID THIS, HOW DID THIS END UP, THAT IT'S IN THE BODY OF THE EARLY RUN WE HAD, IT WAS AT THE END.
HOW IS IT THAT THESE ARE IN THE BOTTOM OF THE BODY OF ALL OF THE OTHERS? THAT'S RIGHT.
THE, SO THE EARLIER ONE WAS A PARCEL THAT WAS CREATED EARLIER THIS YEAR.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S BECAUSE A LOT LAUER IS VACATED.
SO, BECAUSE THAT WAS CREATED EARLIER THIS YEAR, IT HAS TO HAVE THAT LITTLE, UH, SO IF IT WAS CREATIVE, IT WAS IN EXISTENCE AT THE TIME THAT THE TUCKER CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT CAME INTO PLAY, THEN WE LEAVE, WE LEAVE IT.
WE CAN ADD IT DIRECTLY TO THE CODE.
SO I SEE YOU THERE, RIGHT, RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE FOUR PARCELS.
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE'LL OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, SO THE REZONING CASE, WE JUST HEARD ONLY INCLUDES THREE OF THESE PARCELS.
SO THE FOURTH ONE IS AN ADDITIONAL PARCEL.
WHY IS THAT PART OF THIS SAME REQUEST? IT WAS LESS GLAD IF I MAY, BOTH APPLICATIONS ARE FOUR PARCELS.
WHAT YOU HEARD WAS MR. LONGSHORE, IDENTIFYING THREE PARCELS, ONE OWNER, AND A, ANOTHER PARCEL BY A DIFFERENT OWNER.
THIS HAS FOUR PARCELS AS DID SONGBIRD IT.
THERE WAS JUST A DIFFERENCE IN OWNERSHIP.
HE WAS IDENTIFYING THAT'S WHAT YOU HEARD HIM SAY, THREE PARCELS OWNED BY, UH, I FORGET WHAT, AND THEN THE SECOND, AND THEN THE FOURTH PARCEL OWNED BY MR. PETTY.
BUT SO SOME BIRD WAS 65 ACRES.
WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN WHAT I GOT OFF THE G I S WHEN I LOOKED UP THAT THAT'S, THAT'S THE RIGHT.
FOR MORE, UH, JENNIFER MELLON, AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, IT IS 65 ACRES.
SO THE GIS, I THINK, HAD DIFFERENT ANCHORAGES OURS WAS BY SURVEY.
SO IT'S THE EXACT SAME PARCELS THAT WERE WITH THE REZONING AS ARE INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE TCSD APPLICATIONS.
SO WE APPROVED THE REZONING FOR 65 ACRES.
SAME PARCEL, SAME FOR IT'S THREE THEY'RE OWNED BY SONGBIRD, LLC, AND ONE OWNED BY MR. PRATT.
SO THIS REQUEST THEN IS ALSO FOR 65 ACRES.
SO THIS IS, UM, THE 69 IS INCORRECT JUST FROM OUR GIS DATA, WHICH IS DIFFERENT.
SO WITH OUR REZONING APPLICATION, WE HAVE TO SUBMIT A SURVEY IN ORDER TO VERIFY WHAT THAT ACREAGE IS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WILL BE THE NEW ACREAGE GOING FORWARD ON THE GIS SYSTEM, WHICH IS NOT SURVEY VERIFIED, BUT IT'D BE 69 ACRES FOR SOME, NO, MA'AM, IT'S 65 AND 65 ACRES.
I THINK, I THINK, UM, MR. LONGSHORE, WITHOUT PUTTING WORDS IN HIS MOUTH PULLED THE GIS ACREAGE, UM, WHICH IS NOT AS ACCURATE AS OUR SURVEY ACREAGE.
SO THE SURVEY ACREAGE THAT, WHICH WAS ON OUR APPLICATIONS IS THE 65.2, TWO NINE ACRES.
AND THAT IS WHAT WAS REZONED AND WHAT IS REQUESTED TO BE INCLUDED IN THE TCSD.
AND THE AGENDA ITEM SAYS, THIS IS 64.9 ACRES.
AND THE TWO APPLICATIONS, 59, AND ONE IS FOR FIVE AND THEY, AND, AND DIGITS.
SO ACTUALLY IT COULD HAVE JUST BEEN A TYPE OF, BUT EVERYTHING IN HERE.
WELL, I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 2 0 5, THE SUMMARY IS A 60.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 64.9 ACRES GOING INTO DUCK OAK CREEK.
I BELIEVE THERE'S A TYPO IN THE PRESENTATION ACTUALLY.
HAVE WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING? NO.
OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS LAST OPEN DATE, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD OF THIS LAST PUBLIC HEARING, SANDRA WARWICK, 3 6, 7 SWINBURNE ROAD MANNEQUIN SABOT.
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YOU HEARD A LOT ABOUT PARCEL NUMBERS AND YOU SORTA SAW A MAP AND THERE'S SORT OF AN IMPLICATION THAT THE SONGBIRD IS GOING TO BE ATTACHED TO EXISTING TCSD LINES.UM, THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.
STUFF HAPPENS AND STUFF ROLLS DOWNHILL, AND WE'RE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL.
UM, I REALLY WANT TO THANK MR. LONGSHORE FOR TAKING A LOT OF TIME LAST WEEK TO HELP ME FIGURE OUT OR TO EXPLAIN THAT THE SEWAGE LINE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE IS MORE THAN CAPACITY TO HANDLE WHATEVER WILL COME FROM SONGBIRD AND WHAT A SURELY TO FOLLOW AND THAT THE SEWER LINE UNDER THE KINLOCK GOLF COURSE, WHICH I'M SURE YOU DO NOT WANT TO REPEAT OF THE ADVENTURE YOU HAD IN JULY DOWN BY RIVER ROAD IS ALSO IN GOOD SHAPE TO HANDLE THAT.
HOWEVER, THE MANHOLE, WHERE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO CONNECT IS IN A VERY TIGHT CUL-DE-SAC AND HOW ARE MY NEIGHBORS AND I GOING TO ACCESS OUR HOMES.
IF THAT'S DUG UP TO MAKE THE SERA CONNECTION, I FERVENTLY HOPE THAT EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTHLY AND IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
I JUST WANT TO GO ON THE RECORD SAYING THAT IT COULD BE AN ISSUE AND WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
SO PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING HAPPENS AS SMOOTHLY AND AS WONDERFULLY AS POSSIBLE FOR EVERYONE'S BENEFIT.
THAT'S A LOT OF 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
I'M A LITTLE PAVLOK RIDGEWATER.
I FEEL LIKE I'M REQUIRED TO COME UP AND SPEAK.
WELL, THAT'S NOT THE ONLY TRIGGER I HAVE.
UM, MR. CASH AND I WERE JUST, UH, CONVERSING BACK THERE AND IT DOES SEEM TO BE THERE SOME CONFUSION ON THE PARCELS TO BE INCLUDED HERE.
IS IT POSSIBLE FOR MR. LONGACRE TO RE READ THE PARCEL NUMBERS ON PAGES PACKET PAGES 2 0 8, 2 0 9 AND TWO 10 FOR THE RECORD SO THAT WE CAN HIT OUR MIDNIGHT DEADLINE.
IT'S JUST, UH, JUST A REQUEST.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S A, I DON'T KNOW.
DOES THE CHAIR SAY YES OR NO TODAY? THAT'S MY QUESTION.
AND THE STAFF HAS DONE A WONDERFUL JOB TEEING ME UP TONIGHT.
THANK YOU, MR. CASH FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION.
LET'S GO TO, WELL, I THINK WHAT'S BEFORE US IS ON PAGE.
DID YOU, COULD YOU SCROLL DOWN? CAN YOU JUMP OVER TO TWO AT PAGE 2 0 9 WHAT'S CAN YOU PUT IT, PACK IT PAGE ON THE SCREEN? PULL IT UP OFF THE PAGE NUMBER AND SHE CAN SEE.
OKAY, WELL THAT'S THERE YOU GO.
CAN YOU, IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, WILL THAT TAKE YOU TO THE, TAKE YOU TO THE PAGE NOW? I WANT TO SEE WHAT'S IN.
WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON HAS BEEN HIGHLIGHTED IN THE ORDINANCE.
I THINK THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE REQUEST.
OH, IS THAT WHAT HE WANTS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT THERE.
YOU WANT US TO READ ALL OF THEM? OH, I SEE.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ADDING.
UM, THAT'S WHAT, UH, SO WE'RE CLEAR ON THE MOTION AND THAT'S HAVE WE HAD A MOTION YET.
I'M GETTING WAY AHEAD OF, DOES ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO US ABOUT, UH, ON A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR THIS LIFESTYLE, RIGHT? GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD OF THIS LAST PUBLIC HEARING.
SO CHERYL ENTERTAINED, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE, AMENDING GOOCHLAND COUNTY CODE SECTION 14, 2 51 TO ADD THESE FOUR TAX POWER PARCELS INTO THE TAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT SITE.
THANK YOU, MR. SHARP AND MR. SPOON POWER.
SO UP ON OUR SCREEN, WE CAN SEE THIS IS, THIS IS THE DOCUMENT IN OUR PACKAGES.
THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE AMENDMENT THAT HAS JUST BEEN MOVED.
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PARCELS.AND EARLIER IN THE PACKET, THERE WAS SOME ADDITIONS AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS ORDINANCE WHERE WE HAD SOME OTHER PARCELS ADDED.
SO IF THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS MOTION, AND SECOND ON THE BOARD, I'M READY TO DO A ROLL CALL, BUT YES, YES, YES, YES.
ALL THAT ENDS THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WE'RE ADJOURNED UNTIL NEXT MONTH, REGULAR MEETING NOVEMBER 3RD BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'VE BEEN INVITED TO THE
[XVII. Adjournment: The Board of Supervisors will adjourn as follows:]
YES, THAT'S A WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 30TH, WEDNESDAY BOARD MEMBERS.YOU'VE BEEN MAKE SURE YOU LOOK AT YOUR INVITATION FOR THE 21ST OF OCTOBER AT THE REYNOLDS COMMUNITY COLLEGE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 8 48, 40, 30 SECONDS.