Feb 22, 2022 BOS Budget Session 2-22-22

YES OR NO ANSWER TO THIS NEXT ONE.

IS THAT, IS THE PREMIUM REFLECTED ANYWHERE IN THESE EVENTS? NO, WE HAVE NOT BUDGETED THE PREMIUM.

SLIDE 30.

ONE OF THE PRESENTATION TALKS ABOUT PUBLIC EDUCATION.

4% FUNDING INCREASE UP 1 MILLION TO 25.5 MILLION THAT I THINK IS CONSISTENT.

WELL, IT IS A CATCH UP A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

IT WAS A LITTLE LOWER THAN IT WAS LAST YEAR.

I BELIEVE LAST YEAR WAS ABOUT 1.2 MILLION.

SO IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, WHEN YOU WERE ON THAT SLIDE, DOES THAT INCLUDE CIP? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, LIKE A LATER SLOT? NO, NO, THEY SEE THE CRP IS TWO POINT.

IF I CAN GO, WELL, I SAY TO A CIP AND THE 25 YEAR PLAN, BECAUSE LIKE IN A LATER SLIDE, LIKE THE FIRE RESCUE, YOU HAVE 10.9 MILLION IN 20, 23 CIP.

SOME OF THESE OTHER SLIDES YOU DON'T HAVE CIP, OR YOU JUST TALK ABOUT A 25 YEAR.

I'M TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND CIP FOR 2023 FOR EACH OF THESE CATEGORIES.

SO SCHOOLS CIP FOR 22, I THINK THERE IS ONE OF THE, WHERE'S YOUR, UH, LET ME SEE.

I THINK ONE OF THESE SLIDES, UM, I THINK THAT ALWAYS, IT GOES TO THE CIP.

THERE'S ONE OF THEM THAT SHOWS ALL THE NUMBERS.

WHEREAS, UM, NOT THAT ONE, I THINK IT'S THE OTHER DIRECTION.

OOPS.

UM, SO THE 25.5 IS JUST FOR THEIR OPERATING BUDGET.

UM, THERE IS THERE, SO THAT'S THE FIVE-YEAR CIP.

YOU, ARE YOU JUST TALKING ABOUT I WAS JUST LOOKING FOR SOMETHING MORE THAN THE 20 TO 25 YEAR THAT'S RIGHT.

THE FIVE YEARS IS WHAT WE BALANCE.

SO THOSE ARE THE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES THAT ADD UP TO THE FIVE YEARS.

BUT SO THE PUBLIC SAFETY THAT'S SHERIFF AND FIRE RESCUE COMBINED PUBLIC SAFETY.

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AND WE'LL HAVE A WHOLE WORK SESSION ON THE CIP.

UM, AND THE SCHOOL'S 38 MILLION.

UM, THAT'S A, FIVE-YEAR BALANCED RIGHT NOW.

IT'S FIVE-YEAR BALANCE.

AND THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THAT IS THE HIGH SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL IMPROVEMENTS.

IT'S NOT ONLY THAT, BUT A LOT OF IT IS OKAY, I'M JUMPING AROUND AND THIS ONE PROBABLY CAN JUST BE HANDED TO MS. RICE WHEN SHE SPEAKS.

BUT I WANT TO KNOW IF THE BENCHMARK STUDY IS GOING TO INCLUDE A REVIEW OR ANY DIRECTION OR SUGGESTIONS ON HEALTH, HEALTHCARE COSTS AND HEALTHCARE SHARING.

Y'ALL NEED TO ANSWER THAT.

BUT I PUT THAT ONE IN THAT THAT'S THAT'S ONE.

UM, DARREN, I HAD A COUPLE OF MORE, IF I CAN RESERVE MY TIME, SOMEBODY ELSE HAS A QUESTION.

I'LL COME BACK TO WE'LL, WE'LL PUT A PIN IN IT.

NOW YOU MADE IT MR. PETERSON THEN, UM, THIS MAY BE FOR, IT'S PROBABLY HER AS WELL.

WELL, ONE OF THE HALLMARKS OF, UM, HUSAM COUNTY AND ONE OF THE SECRET INGREDIENTS IN OUR SECRET SAUCE HERE IS WE CAN BUDGET REASONABLY CONSERVATIVELY EACH YEAR.

AND SO THAT MOORE'S LAW HASN'T BEEN REPEALED AND THINGS DON'T GO ACCORDING TO PLAN AND PERFECTION NEVER ACHIEVED.

SO OUR CONSERVATIVE BUDGETING PROVIDES AT LEAST THE INITIAL KIND OF SHOCK ABSORBING OF THE SYSTEM.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE SOME DRASTIC ACTION.

COULD YOU MAYBE SHARE WITH THE GROUP, THE DEGREE OF CONSERVATISM AND THE GROWTH IN OUR TWO LARGEST, UH, UH, SOURCES OF REVENUE, WHICH IS THE REAL ESTATE, UM, TAXES AND THE PROPERTY TAXES, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.

SO ARE WE, WHAT ARE THE ASSUMED GROWTH RATES IN THIS 23 BUDGET? SO FOR THE REAL ESTATE TAX, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT FIRST.

UM, WE, WE USE THE ASSESSMENT REASSESSMENT FIGURES THAT WE GOT, BUT REMEMBER WHEN WE DO , THAT'S HALF A YEAR OF THE CURRENT REASSESSMENT FOLLOWING YEAR, THE IS THE NEXT YEARS.

SO FOR NEXT YEARS, EVEN THOUGH THIS YEAR IS, WAS, YOU KNOW, 11 PLUS NEW GROWTH, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT 13%.

UM, NEXT YEAR'S WE PUT 4%.

SO, UM, WE ALSO DON'T, WE ALSO USE A COLLECTION FACTOR IN THERE BECAUSE YOU NEVER COLLECT A HUNDRED PERCENT THE FIRST YEAR YOU TREASURER DOES A VERY GOOD JOB AND ENDS UP COLLECTING A HUNDRED PERCENT OVER A COURSE OF A COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT NOT THE FIRST YEAR.

SO THAT'S WHY WE FEEL LIKE THAT NUMBER IS CONSERVATIVE.

UM, THE SAME WITH PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.

IF WE FEEL LIKE, UM, THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER BECAUSE WE JUST BASE IT ON THE GROWTH OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN TERMS, BUT WE KEEP ADDING MORE VEHICLES.

SO WE DON'T FACTOR THAT IN.

SO IT, IT, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL THAT IT'S A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.

AT MY COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD, THE REVENUE STABILIZATION RESERVE.

I MEAN, PART OF THE REASON FOR THE QUESTION IS TREES DON'T GROW TO THE SKY AND WE'VE SEEN A, WHAT I'LL CALL AN ANOMALY IN THAT THE GROWTH RATE OVER THE LAST YEAR OR SO DRIVEN BY INFLATION.

AND WE'VE SEEN THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE ADMINISTRATION NOW IS TARGETING INFLATION TO TRY AND GET THAT BACK UNDER CONTROL.

AND AS THEY RAISED INTEREST RATES, MORTGAGE RATES WILL GO UP AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT OVER THE CYCLE, YOU KNOW, REAL ESTATE VALUES TEND TO FLUCTUATE AND THEY DON'T ALWAYS GO UP EVERY YEAR IN.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE QUESTION IS WHAT ARE WE ASSUMING FOR THE COMING YEAR ANYWAY, WHICH IS ABOUT ALL WE CAN SEE RIGHT? YEAR 2, 3, 4 IS A LITTLE FUZZY.

UM, MY CRYSTAL BALL IS KIND OF CLOUDY OUT 10 YEARS, BUT THE NEXT YEAR WE'RE ASSUMING ABOUT 4%, WHICH IS DOWN FROM THIS YEAR, BUT IT'S STILL A POSITIVE GROWTH RATE.

AND THEN ON THE VEHICLES WE'VE SEEN USED CAR PRICES, JUST GO THROUGH THE ROOF.

AND TH THAT AGAIN IS UNSUSTAINABLE.

I THINK ONCE THEY START UNLOADING ALL THE SHIPS AND WHATNOT, THAT'LL COME BACK DOWN TO EARTH.

SO YEAH, WE, WE JUST BUDGET FOR NORMAL GROWTH.

WE DON'T REALLY BUDGET, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T USE LIKE A 20% OR 30% KIND OF CRAZY NUMBERS WE'RE HEARING.

WE DON'T USE THOSE KINDS OF FACTORS FOR THAT.

OKAY, GOOD.

THAT'S THE KIND OF OVERARCHING COLOR I WAS LOOKING FOR IS HOW CONSERVATIVE OUR BUDGET.

YOU HAVE CONCERN THAT YOU FEEL OUR BUDGET IS THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING TO US.

SO THANK YOU.

YEAH, SHE'S TRYING TO GET AWAY.

I LIKE TO GO LIKE HIS QUESTION EVERY YEAR.

I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, IT'S AN EMPHASIS ON CONSERVATIVE.

I CAN SEE THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

HE SAID, HOW CONSERVATIVE DO YOU FEEL OUR BUDGET IS RELATIVE? DO YOU FEEL IT'S? I THINK YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO STRIKE A BALANCE.

I MEAN, IT, IF YOU'RE TOO CONSERVATIVE, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU MISS OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO, UM, TO DO GREAT THINGS FOR THE COUNTY.

UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT THE CONSERVATIVE BUDGET, BECAUSE WE BASICALLY FOLLOW THE METHODOLOGIES WE'VE USED IN THE PAST.

WELL, SPEAKING OF METHODOLOGY, AND SO PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION THAT I KIND OF POINTING IT YOUR WAY, BUT I'M LOOKING

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SO WE HAVE 3% OF TOTAL ANNUAL ADOPTED GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, THERE'S A BUCKET IN OUR FUNDS AND THERE'S A REVENUE STABILIZATION FUND WHEN YOU PUT THIS BUDGET TOGETHER.

AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS EARLIER, THERE IS AN INCREASE IN THE OPERATING GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

DO YOU NEED TO PUT MONEY INTO THAT FUND AS PART OF THE BUDGET, OR IS THAT FUND ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH IN IT THAT IT COVERS IT HAS ENOUGH IN CURRENTLY BASED ON, SO IT HAS ENOUGH CURRENTLY TO COVER THE INCREASE THAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE BUDGET.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S ARGUABLY OVERFUNDED CURRENTLY.

NO, IT'S CURRENT AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2021.

SO THAT THAT'S THE CURRENT NUMBER.

SO WE WILL HAVE TO ADD MORE MONEY.

AND THAT'S YOU YOU'RE ANSWERING THE QUESTION.

YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT WITH BOTH THE, UH, THE, UM, REVENUE STABILIZATION FUND AND OUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE.

SO SOMEWHERE IN THE BUDGET, WE SHOULD SEE A LINE WHERE INCREASING THE FUNDING IN THAT BUCKET.

UM, WE, WE, YOU WON'T SEE IT BEING BUDGETED FOR WHAT WE WILL DO IS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WHEN WE END UP WITH OUR FUND BALANCE, THAT IF WHATEVER WE CAN'T, DON'T, AREN'T REQUIRED TO PUT IN REVENUES STABILIZATION, AND THEN ON A SIGN WILL BE LEFT FOR A SIGN.

IF WE HAVE A LOT OF SURPLUS, WE'LL HAVE MORE IN THAT BUCKET.

IF WE DON'T, WE JUST WON'T BE ABLE TO ASSIGN AS MUCH MONEY.

WE WON'T HAVE AS MUCH CASH TO FUND FUTURE THE PROJECTS IN MY SIMPLE MIND AND FORGIVE AND DO FOR TAXES MINUS EXPENSES EQUALS X.

AND WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS REVENUES, BUT THIS, IN OTHER WORDS, WE DON'T HAVE TO PULL FROM REVENUE MINUS EXPENSES TO FUND THAT THERE'S ALREADY ADEQUATE FUNDS THAT MAYBE ARE NOT YET ASSIGNED.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND THAT COULD CHANGE DEPENDING ON HOW FAST YOUR BUDGET GROWS, BUT, BUT WE DON'T FORESEE THAT HAPPENING YET WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO BUDGET TO, TO, I MEAN, AT SOME POINT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO BUDGET TO FILL OUT THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE WILL NOW FROM MY PHILOSOPHICAL PIECE ON THIS REVENUE STABILIZATION OR SOMETHING THAT I'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WHERE WE'RE FUNDING THE NON-LOCAL PORTION, 3% OF THE TOTAL ANNUAL BUDGET, WHICH FOR THE YEAR PLUS THE NON-LOCAL PORTION OF THE SCHOOL OPERATING FUND BUDGET, IT'S VERY CONSERVATIVE.

MOST PEOPLE WOULD JUST GO WITH IT.

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE MOST LOCALITIES.

WOULDN'T HAVE THAT LITTLE EXTRA PORTION IN THERE OF THE NON-LOCAL PORTION OF THE SCHOOLS, BECAUSE, BECAUSE I'M ASSUMES THAT THAT MAY JUST VANISH YUMMY.

SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S TOO CONSERVATIVE.

MY VIEW IS THAT'S TOO CONSERVATIVE TO HAVE THAT WHOLE ENTIRE NON-LOCAL MR. PETERSON HAVE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO WRESTLE IT, BUT LET'S STAY AFTER CLASS AND TALK TO MR. PETER SIDE.

BUT I DO, I DO WELL.

I GUESS I'LL HAVE TO WRESTLE MR. PETERSON ON THAT, BUT THE, THE NON, WELL, LET ME ASK THIS THEN THE NEXT PART OF IT, BECAUSE I READ DOWN WHERE WE MAY DRAW THAT DOWN AND IT SHOWS WHEN WE CAN DRAW IT DOWN, IF THAT MONEY, IF WE PUT ALL THE NON-LOCAL NON-LOCAL PORTION OF THE SCHOOL OPERATING BUDGET IN THAT REVENUE STABILIZATION RESERVE, I DON'T SEE IN OUR SUMMARY OF OUR POLICY HERE, THAT THAT PORTION IS RESERVED FOR SCHOOLS.

IF WE EVER HAVE TO TAP INTO THAT, ISN'T RESERVED FOR SCHOOLS, THE PORTION THAT'S IN THERE FOR THE NON NON-LOCAL PORTION, ISN'T RESERVED BY POLICY FOR US TO USE FOR SCHOOLS IN THE EVENT, WE NEED TO TAP INTO THE REVENUE SICK.

AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION THEN BY OUR POLICY.

NO, IT'S NOT.

I MEAN, WELL, IF WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE THIS CONSERVATIVE, I WOULD SUGGEST TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT IF WE'RE PUTTING NON-LOCAL PORTION OF THE SCHOOL OPERATING FUND BUDGET IN THIS BUCKET THAT WE RESERVE PULLING OUT IN THAT BUCKET FOR THE SAME PURPOSE THAT WE PUT IT IN, THAT'S MY NOT LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF MY ARGUMENT WITH MR. I CAN'T.

I CAN TELL BY LOOKING AT MR. PETERSON, THIS WILL BE AN ITEM OF THE NEXT, UH, FINANCIAL, UH, FINANCIAL COMMITTEE TO CREATE THE POLICY.

AND I'M WAITING FOR MR. PETERSON TO RETORT, AND HE'S GONNA, HE'S GONNA WAVE, WAVE THE WHITE FLAG FOR NOW.

YOU AND YOU HAVE THIS RIGHT.

ANYWAY, QUESTIONS FOR MR. CHAVEZ.

THAT'S IT? NO QUESTIONS.

WELL, THANK YOU GUYS AGAIN.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY THAT THAT REALLY HELPED, UH, PUT ALL THESE FIGURES TOGETHER.

AND ESPECIALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF KATHLEEN'S HERE, SHE'S NOW, BUT SHE WAS EVEN HERE ALL WEEKEND LONG, PUTTING THE BOOK TOGETHER THAT YOU JUST FINISHED READING.

MR. LUMPKINS VERY FAST.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN, PLEASE.

OH, GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE A .

[2. 5277: Agency Presentations for FY2023 County Budget: Sheriff's Office, Fire-Rescue Department, Animal Protection, Workforce Report]

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GOOD AFTERNOON.

ONE MORE TIME.

GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN BOARD.

UH, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE TIME TODAY TO, UH, GO OVER A LITTLE PRESENTATION ABOUT OUR, UH, BUDGET AND ALSO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE KITCHEN SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS BEEN DOING, UH, THIS PAST YEAR AND A LITTLE BIT OF THE YEAR BEFORE.

TRAINING, SICK, LEAVE COURT, VACATION, THEIR OWN FAMILY TIME, UH, FOR THEIR WELLBEING AND MANY OTHER THINGS THAT KEEP, KEEP THEM OUT OF WORK, UH, DOING PRESENTATIONS, DOING SO MUCH DIFFERENT THINGS.

JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, GUCCI COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICES TO PRIMARY LAW ENFORCEMENT IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY, UH, STATE POLICE AS OUR ASSIST AGENCY, UH, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR RESPONDING TO CALLS FOR SERVICE.

WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE NINE 11 COMMUNICATIONS CENTER.

ALL DISPATCHERS ARE UNDERNEATH THE SHERIFF.

UH, WE'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR CIVIL PROCESS, WHICH IS SERVING COURT PAPERS, SUCH AS SUBPOENAS, UH, WRITS, UH, EVEN EVICTIONS, UH, EMERGENCY PROTECTIVE ORDERS, ANY COURT PAPER AT ALL.

WE GO OUT AND WE SERVE THEM.

UM, WE'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR THE COURT SECURITY OF EVERYBODY'S IN THE COURT, WHETHER IT'S THE PUBLIC OR COURT STAFF, UH, WE'RE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR PRISON PRISONER, TRANSPORT, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE WHEN IT COMES TO PRISONER TRANSPORTS THAT WE MAY BE GOING TO BRISTOL, VIRGINIA FOR A TRANSPORT.

UH, THERE'S BEEN TIMES IN COURT WHERE WE'VE HAD FIVE DIFFERENT, UH, JAILS WE HAD TO RESPOND TO IN ONE DAY TO BRING THEM TO COURT.

SO IF, IF, IF THERE'S A PRISONER IN FAIRFAX COUNTY, A PRISONER IN BRISTOL, UH, VIRGINIA, UH, PRISONER AND AN RYKO, UH, PRISONER AT VIRGINIA BEACH, WE HAVE TO SEND A DEPUTY AT LEAST ONE, SOMETIMES TWO DEPENDS ON WHAT THE CRIME IS, UH, TO GO THERE AND PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION BACK HERE FOR COURT, AND THEN THE RETURN TRIP.

SO, UH, THAT'S A BIG MANPOWER INTENSIVE THING ON SOME OF OUR COURT DATES.

ALSO JUST A REMINDER.

OUR DELL OPERATIONS RUNS ON OUR IS DRIVEN BY OUR MISSION, VISION AND VALUES, WHICH WAS ADOPTED JANUARY OF 2020, BUT WE ALSO HAVE FOUR MAIN GOALS THAT ALSO DRIVE OUR WORK AND FULFILLING, UH, WHAT OUR MISSION IS AND THIS FOR, OR IS TO MAINTAIN OUR SAFE COMMUNITY THROUGH, UH, DELIVERING HIGH QUALITY LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, SERVICES, AND ALSO HAVING COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS ALSO RECRUIT, RETAIN THE BEST QUALIFIED PERSONNEL, DEPUTIES, AND DISPATCHERS THAT ARE COMMITTED TO GOOCHLAND COUNTY.

ALSO PRESERVE OUR FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE PRACTICES AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND ALSO INNOVATED USE OF CURRENT AND EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHICH IS CHANGING, UH, EVERY DAY, ALL RIGHT ON TO, UH, THE BUDGET THIS YEAR IS THE, UH, SHERIFF'S MAIN BUDGET.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A INCREASE THERE, AND I'M GOING TO DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS ONE IN A LITTLE BIT, AND ALSO THE COURT-RELATED, UH, BUT BUDGET WITH A, WITH A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE, EXCUSE ME.

SO THE, THE BIGGEST INCREASE IN OUR BUDGET IS ALWAYS PERSONNEL.

UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, I PRESENTED A FIVE-YEAR PLAN IN ORDER TO GET APPROPRIATE STAFF AND OF DEPUTIES, UH, IN THE COUNTY OF NEUTRON LAST YEAR Y'ALL ARE, Y'ALL ARE GREAT.

Y'ALL HELPED US OUT TREMENDOUSLY, AND I PRAISE YOU FOR THAT.

UH, BUT, UM, HE'LL PROVIDE A SEVEN NEW DEPUTY FULL-TIME DEPUTY POSITIONS FOR US A AND A FULL-TIME DISPATCHER AND PART-TIME DISPATCHER.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, THIS YEAR I'M ASKING FOR SIX ADDITIONAL DEPUTIES, A PART-TIME COMMUNITY, DEPUTY, A DISPATCHER AND ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT.

NOW WHAT THAT DOES WITH, WITH THOSE POSITION, THEN I'M FOCUSING RIGHT NOW ON DEPUTY POSITIONS IS EARLIER THIS YEAR, WE STARTED A MANDATORY MINIMUM STAFFING OF FOUR, FOUR DEPUTIES, THE 24 7, WHICH IS NOT ENOUGH IF OUR FIVE-YEAR PLAN IS ADHERE TO, OR IF THAT, IF IT PANS OUT, WE WILL HAVE AT LEAST SIX, IF NOT SEVEN DEPUTIES ON MANDATORY MINIMUM BY, UH, FYI 2025, WHICH IS GREAT.

AND THAT WOULD ACTUALLY PUT 10 DEPUTIES ON SHIFTS.

SO WHEN I SAY WE HAVE 10 DEPUTIES ON SHIFT, WE ALSO THINK ABOUT TRAINING THEM BEING OFFERED,

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SO WHAT WOULD WE, WHAT WOULD WE DO WITH THE ADDITIONAL DEPUTIES? WELL, IN THE MAP YOU SEE THERE AS GOOCHLAND COUNTY IS, IS, ARE SORT OF LIKE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

THEY HAVE THE SIX STATIONS.

WELL, WE HAVE SIX SECTORS IS WHAT WE CALL THEM.

OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A DEPUTY IN EACH SECTOR, 24 7 TO ANSWER CALLS, TO IMPROVE RESPONSE TIME AND TO BE THERE WHEN, WHEN OUR CITIZENS NEED THEM.

SO THAT'S SIX.

SO IF WE WOULD HAVE THE SEVEN, THE SEVENTH ONE WOULD BE A SUPERVISOR WROTE A ROVING THROUGH THE COUNTY.

SO THEY CAN GO TO CALL THE DB.

IF SOMEONE REQUESTS A SUPERVISOR, FOR SOME REASON, IF NO, ONE'S SICK, NO ONE'S ON VACATION.

NOBODY'S IN TRAINING.

WE WILL HAVE 10.

AND WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH 10 ON THE ROAD AT ONE TIME, ALL OF THOSE BE PEOPLE, WE WOULD HAVE A CORPORATE MONITOR IN THE CENTRAL EAST SECTOR SECTOR, WHICH IS COURTHOUSE ALL THE WAY TO THE COUNTY LINE.

THEN MAYBE A SERGEANT FROM THE COURTHOUSE TO THE FLUVANNA LINE.

SO IF SOMEONE ASKS FOR A SUPERVISOR THEY'RE EVEN THERE QUICKER, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE THOSE OTHER TWO DEPUTIES IN HOTSPOTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, IF THERE'S A BIG EVENT LIKE RAZ WICK, WE WOULD HAVE THEM THERE.

OR IF, UM, THE HOTSPOTS OF DRIVE SHACK IS A HOT SPOT RIGHT NOW, UH, WE WOULD HAVE THEM THERE, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO WITH THE, WITH THE 10 PEOPLE ARE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT DEPUTIES ARE DOING.

UH, THIS IS THE CALLS FOR SERVICE, ALL OF OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE.

UH, WE INCREASED ABOUT 1500, UH, THIS YEAR.

I AM PREDICTING THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE AROUND 26,000, UH, THIS YEAR.

UH, IT WAS, WELL, MY GUEST IS GOING TO BE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA, I THINK WE'RE GONNA REALLY INCREASE THIS YEAR AND ON THE TOPIC OF CALLS FOR SERVICE, ONE OF THE CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT REALLY TAKES UP TIME IS MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCIES.

UM, IT IS, UH, BEEN AN ISSUE FOR MANY YEARS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE OUR INCREASE FOR OUR MENTAL HEALTH CALLS, IT WAS 171 THIS YEAR.

AND THEN WE HAD A 361 WELFARE CHECKS AND IN A WELFARE CHECKS, IT COULD BE JUST GOING OVER TO SOMEONE'S HOUSE, MAKING SURE THEY'RE OKAY.

BUT A LOT OF TIMES IT ENDS UP BEING A MENTAL EMERGENCY OR SOME KIND OF MENTAL PROBLEM.

SO A LOT OF THESE MENTAL HEALTH EMERGENCIES END UP GOING INTO WHAT WE CALL AN ECO OR EMERGENCY CUSTODY ORDER OR A TDO, WHICH IS A TEMPORARY DEDUCT, A DETENTION ORDER.

WELL, OUR DEPUTIES, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE VSA HAS BEEN ON.

IT'S BEEN DOWN IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IS WORKING ON, BUT OUR DEPUTIES HAVE BEEN DOWN IN HOSPITALS, AT LEAST ONE DAFFY A LOT OF TIMES TWO, SOMETIMES THREE, AND THEY'RE COMING OFF THE ROAD TO BE AT A HOSPITAL UNTIL THEY CAN FIND A BED.

AND THIS IS FOR THREE, FOUR DAYS AT A 24 HOURS A DAY.

SO THAT IS VERY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, VERY, A VERY BIG PROBLEM.

AND HOPEFULLY THEY WILL FIX SOMETHING IN GENERAL ASSEMBLY, BUT I'M NOT HOLDING MY BREATH.

ALSO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, WHICH IS A GREAT THING IS TRAINING.

UH, LAST YEAR WE, WE DID OVER 4,000 HOURS IN TRAINING 4,117 TO BE EXACT.

AND I, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THIS SLIDE IS, UH, IS OVER 51%.

WE'RE GOING OUTSIDE OUR AGENCY TO GO TO TRAINING.

WE'RE GOING TO, UH, DOWN IN TIDEWATER AREA, WE'RE GOING TO LYNCHBURG, WE'RE GOING TO BERLIN.

WE'RE GOING HAVE A DEPUTY IS GOING TO FLORIDA IN MARCH FOR A, UM, ACTION RECONSTRUCTION CLASS.

SO HE'S GOING TO BE DOWN THERE TWO WEEKS.

SO WE ARE, WE ARE REALLY TRAINED AND I TRULY BELIEVE IN IT.

UM, BUT ALSO WANTED TO POINT OUT THE IN-HOUSE TRAINING, WHICH HAS OVER 13%.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, YEARS AGO, YOU WOULD NEVER SEEN 13% IN HOUSE TRAINING AT OUR OFFICE.

AND I WILL SAY THE FIREARMS IS IN-HOUSE TOO, BUT THE 13.6% IS BRINGING PEOPLE IN AND ALSO USING OUR INSTRUCTORS THAT ARE IN-HOUSE.

WE'VE GOT SEVERAL INSTRUCTORS BEHIND US, UM, WHO COME IN AND TEACH CLASSES, BUT WE ARE BRINGING OUTSIDE INSTRUCTORS IN WE'RE.

WE ARE BRINGING A LOT TO GOOCHLAND COUNTY WHERE WE'RE HAVING, UH, SEVERAL, UH, CHIEF SHERIFFS FROM ALL OVER THE STATE, ALL OVER THE NATION.

THERE'S A, A SHERIFF FROM LOUISIANA COMING UP FOR A TRAINING LATER ON THIS YEAR, UH, TO GOOCHLAND.

SO WHY DO WE TRAIN? BECAUSE OUR CITIZENS EXPECT THE BEST AND THEY DESERVE THE BEST.

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UH, THEY DESERVE THE BEST, HIGHLY TRAINED DEPUTIES AND DISPATCHERS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AS SHERIFF.

I AM PERSONALLY A LIFELONG LEARNER.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT IN TRAINING OUR DEPUTIES AND DISPATCHERS TRAINING THEM AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO THE LEVEL THOUGH, WHERE WE CAN GET THEM, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST IT CAN BE AS A MATTER OF LIFE AND DEATH FOR, UH, CITIZENS AND, UH, EMPLOYEES OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO DEPUTIES WHO ARE OUT THERE AND TO FIREFIGHTERS WHO ARE OUT THERE EVERY DAY.

UM, AND ALSO THE NORMAL REQUIREMENTS, SOME OF THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS THROUGH OUR ACCREDITATION AND D C J S ALRIGHT, A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, EXPLANATION AND INCREASE IN THE BUDGET.

ONE PERSONNEL, WE ALREADY TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, BUT I DID WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IN EARLY JANUARY, WE WERE DOWN 15 DEPUTIES BECAUSE OF COVID.

UH, WE, I MEAN, OUT 15, UH, WHICH MEANS WE'RE OPERATING ON A SKELETON CREW.

UM, SO WITH THE ADDITIONAL DEPUTY IS IT HELPS US HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BENCH THAT IF THIS WOULD HAPPEN AGAIN, I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M TALKING ABOUT COVID KNOW IT WAS ALMOST A YEAR THREE, BUT WE ARE, AND WE WERE DOWN 15.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THE, IF WE HAD THESE OTHER SIX NEW POSITIONS, IT'LL DEFINITELY HELP OUT, UH, MAINTAINING THE, ALSO THE NORMAL, UH, REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT OF VEHICLES, UH, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT.

UM, WE ALSO PLAN ON PURCHASING A, UH, A FORENSIC COMPUTER, WHICH WE HAVE ONE, BUT IT IS OUT OF DATE AND IS BASICALLY FULL, UM, NOT QUITE YET, BUT IT WILL BE BY JULY ONE.

AND, UH, WE PLAN ON IN THAT, SO WE CAN PROPERLY INVESTIGATE SOME OF THESE, UH, INTERNET CRIMES THAT WE HAVE, UH, IN OUR COUNTY AND IN THE NATION, UNFORTUNATELY, AND THEN TO TRAIN IN AGAIN.

AND THEN THE, WE ARE ALSO, AS WE ALL KNOW, UH, PREACHING TO THE CHOIR ON THIS, ABOUT THE FUEL COSTS GOING UP, AND THEN THE OVERTIME, WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF OVERTIME, UH, IN THERE, OR AN INCREASE FOR OVERTIME.

AND THAT IS SO WE CAN KEEP PEOPLE ON THE ROAD DURING, YOU KNOW, 15 PEOPLE OUT.

ALSO WHEN PEOPLE GO TO TRAINING, THEY BURN A DAY THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.

SO IF THEY'RE IN TRAINING MONDAY AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE ROAD TUESDAY, THEY'RE OFF TUESDAY.

SO WITH HIS EXTRA OVERTIME, WE CAN KEEP DEPUTIES ON THE ROAD.

ALSO, UH, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, ARE HAPPY ABOUT THIS, INCLUDING THE SCHOOLS, UH, BUT WE HAVE A NEW LINE ITEM FOR JUST OVERTIME FOR GOVERNMENT EVENTS.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS WE ARE BUDGETING FOR DEPUTIES TO WORK 4TH OF JULY TO WORK FALL FESTIVAL, TO WORK THE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAMES, BASKETBALL GAMES IS NO MORE OF THIS BACK AND FORTH BILLING, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, BILLING, THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOLS AND BACK AND FORTH, BUT WE'RE JUST DOING IT ALL.

IT ALL COMES PRETTY MUCH OUT OF THE SAME POT.

SO THAT'S GOING TO SAVE A LOT OF TIME AND MONEY, UM, FOR EVERYBODY, FOR SCHOOLS TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND THEN THE FINAL ONE JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON IS, UH, UH, ADDITION OF MORE DASH CAMPS AND CAGE CAMPS.

WE DON'T HAVE THEM IN RIGHT NOW, BUT WE HAVE FOUR ON THE WAY.

UH, THEY'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING THE CARS RIGHT NOW WITH A MINUTE AND WE WANT TO ADD MORE, UH, CAMERAS TO IT CAUSE THE CAMERAS, UH, I'M DEFINITELY A PROPONENT FOR IT.

I THINK IT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE WEARING YOUR BODY CAMERA, YOU GET THIS VIEW.

BUT IF YOU HAVE THAT ALSO THAT DASH CAM, YOU GET MUCH OF A BETTER VIEW WITH A BODY CAMERA AND THEN A CAGE CAM.

AND THESE THINGS, ONE, ONE LAWSUIT THAT THESE PROVE THAT SOMEONE'S NOT TELLING THE TRUTH IS PAY FOR ITSELF WITHOUT A DOUBT, OR MOVING INTO A DISPATCH OR IMMUNE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS IS A SLIGHT INCREASE THERE.

UM, WHAT THE IS DOING, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT 2018, THOSE ARE THE NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS.

NUMBER ONES, NON-EMERGENCY CALLS THEY HAD INTO DISPATCH.

IT'S ALREADY UP OVER 38,000.

NOW THAT'S A APPROXIMATELY DOING IT IN MY HEAD ABOUT 4.25, UM, CALLS PER HOUR.

THAT'S NOT COUNTING THE CALLS THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE OUT OF DISPATCH, WHERE THEY HAVE TO CALL FOR MED FLIGHT.

THEY HAVE TO CALL FOR OTHER JURISDICTIONS FOR MUTUAL AID.

THEY HAVE TO CALL FOR THINGS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR CALL FOR COURT SET UP TRANSPORT.

SO THAT IS, THAT IS A, JUST A SMALL BIT, A SMALL SNAPSHOT OF WHAT DISPATCH REALLY DOES IN THEIR ALL RIGHT.

SO THE EXPLANATION OF INCREASE FOR DISPATCH, UM, RIGHT AROUND THE SAME TIME, YOU WOULD KNOW IT DISPATCH FIVE DISPATCHERS DOWN YEAH.

WITH COVID.

SO ONCE AGAIN, SKELETON CREW AND DISPATCH, UH,

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SO WE NEED THAT EXTRA POSITION AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT I'M GOING TO, UM, REVISIT THE, UH, FIVE-YEAR PLAN ON POSSIBLY ADDED MORE DISPATCHERS A LITTLE SOONER THAN WHAT I HAVE ON THERE NOW.

UM, BECAUSE OF THAT REASON, CAUSE WE WERE DOWN WHERE WE HAVE TWO DISPATCHERS, I DUSTED OFF MY HEADSET AND, UH, STARTED GOING THROUGH, UH, TRYING TO RELEARN HOW TO DISPATCH AND EVERYTHING.

BUT, UH, BUT THAT WAS NO JOKE.

I WAS GOING TO BE IN THEIR DISPATCH.

AND, UH, ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF OTHER DEPUTIES WHO WERE CROSS TRAINED TO DISPATCH, I THINK, UH, CHIEF DEF EAST WAS ACTUALLY DUSTIN OFF HIS, BUT WE WERE, WE WERE GOING TO GO IN THERE CAUSE WE HAVE TO DO IT.

UM, SO YOU PROBABLY WILL SEE THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS ON, IN THE NEXT BUDGET, UH, PRESENTATION, UM, ON THE OPERATION SIDE, WE HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR, UH, COMMUNICATION SUPERVISOR IN THE BACK ROOM, MS. WITT.

UM, BUT WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SEND HER TO SOME ADDED TRAINING ON LEADERSHIP AND SUPERVISORY SKILLS.

AND ALSO IN THE FUTURE, WE PLAN ON HAVING A COUPLE OF SHIFT LEADS.

UH, THERE ARE GOING TO BE A SUPERVISORY ROLE AND WE WANT TO GET THEM TRAINED UP BEFORE THOSE POSITIONS BECOME AVAILABLE.

AND THEN THE NORMAL EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE TO REPLACE.

AND THEY'RE IN THERE 24 7.

AND WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN CHAIRS AND OWN DESKS FOR 24 7, YOU KNOW, 24, 7 THINGS BREAK, YOU KNOW, THANKSGIVING WORE OUT AND THEY JUST NEEDED REPLACED.

AND THEN ALSO OUR LANGUAGE LINE AND OTHER SERVICES THAT THEY USE CONSTANTLY.

ALL RIGHT, A LITTLE BIT ON THE CORRECTIONS AND DETENTION.

THIS IS JUST A, THIS IS A, A FORECAST ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND FOR ADULT AND JUVENILE, UM, SPACE.

BUT ALSO WHAT, UM, THE NAME OF THIS IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE MISLEADING, UH, FOR CORRECTION DETENTION, BUT IT ALSO IN THIS LINE ALSO HAS THE ACADEMY FEES, WHICH HAS ACTUALLY GONE UP, UH, JUST OVER 21% AND THEN OUR GRANTS WHERE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF GRANT WRITERS, UH, IN OUR AGENCY, WE HAVE, UH, THREE REAL GOOD ONES.

UM, AND THIS IS, UH, ONE OF OUR, OR COUPLE OF OUR GRANTS WHERE WE GET, UH, RADARS, UH, PVTS BREATHALYZERS AND WE GET MONEY FOR ACTUALLY DUI ENFORCEMENT AND ALSO, UM, SPEED AND RECKLESS DRIVING ENFORCEMENT, WHICH ALSO HELPS KEEP PEOPLE ON THE ROAD, EXTRA PEOPLE ON THE ROAD TOO.

AND WE'RE ALSO HOPING TO, UM, AS LONG AS SOME OF THESE GO FOR, THROUGH THE LEGISLATION, UH, APPLYING FOR A COUPLE OTHER GRANTS THAT WILL HELP OUT WITH A COUPLE OF POSITIONS IN THE FUTURE AND THEN ONTO THE CIP, UM, JUST SITTING ON THE 5 23, THOSE ARE TO REPLACE EIGHT VEHICLES.

AND AS THE C CIP GOES UP, WE INCREASED IT 5%.

WE TALKED TO THE GUYS DOWN AT SHEEHY AND THE, UH, EAST COAST REP.

AND THAT WAS HIS SUGGESTION ON, ON GOING UP, UM, WITH IT, HE WAS SORT OF, HE SAID, IT'S A FLIPPER CORN RIGHT NOW IS WHAT HE IS, WHAT HE SAID.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS TO THE CITIZENS OF GOOCHLAND COUNTY AND TO THIS BOARD AND TO ALL THE DEPUTIES AND MEN AND WOMEN UNDER SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UH, WE THANK YOU, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE ABLE TO DO THESE THINGS BECAUSE OF Y'ALL.

UH, THESE ARE JUST A, UH, SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS AND EVENTS THAT WE DO ACROSS THE COUNTY, UH, TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER, UH, TO HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP BUILDING THAT FIRST INTERACTION WITH SOMEONE, WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE A POSITIVE ONE.

UM, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EVERY ONE, BUT I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT ONE OF THESE ACTUALLY TOO IS BECAUSE I DIDN'T EVEN TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST FOR THE, I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT UNTIL I, SHERIFF IRVIN FROM RICHMOND REACHED OUT TO ME AND THE, UH, 2022 NIGHT TO SHINE IS TIM TIVA EVENT.

UH, THAT WAS HELD DOWN AT HOPE CHURCH.

AND, UH, SHERIFF IRVIN DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT.

SHE, UH, SHE WAS THE LEAD ON THIS.

SHE PUT IT ALL TOGETHER FOR WHAT IS, IT'S A, IT'S AN EVENT FOR SPECIAL NEEDS, UH, KIDS, AND IT'S LIKE A PROM.

AND THEN THEY HAVE A BIG EVENT DAY AND IT IS, IT IS SO AWESOME, UH, TO SEE, BUT WE HAD PEOPLE FROM RICHMOND SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, HENRICO PD AND ROCCO SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, CHESTERFIELD SHERIFF'S OFFICE, HANOVER, YOU KNOW, LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM TAIWAN ERRORS.

I MEAN ALL OVER THE STATE OF VIRGINIA HERE IN GOOCHLAND, UH, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATING IN THIS.

AND IT WAS PRETTY AWESOME.

AND, UH, DEFINITELY WANT TO DO THAT AGAIN.

UH, THIS NEXT YEAR.

HAVE YOU EVER GET A CHANCE? I'LL SEND IT OUT CAUSE IT'S SORTA HIT THE LOOK, BE HONEST WITH YOU HIT ME A LITTLE ABOUT SURPRISE.

WE ONLY HAD A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO PREPARE FOR IT.

UM, BUT I'LL SHOOT IT OUT TO Y'ALL IT'S IT'S WORTH SEEING IF YOU ONLY GO ONCE IT IS WORTH SAYING IT'S, IT'S PRICELESS.

UM, ALSO ONE THING THAT WE'RE STARTING UP WITH THANKS TO THE, UH, UH, GUCCI IN SCHOOLS IS, UH, FOR LETTING US USE SOME OF THEIR SPACE.

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WE'RE STARTING UP A TEEN DRIVING COURSE AND WHAT IS WHERE WE'RE NOT SURE ON THE DATE ON WHAT IT IS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE IN MAY AND WHAT IT IS WE'RE GOING TO GET WITH ALL THE KIDS WHO ARE ABOUT TO GET THEIR LICENSE, WHO DO HAVE THEIR LICENSE AND GO OVER EVERYTHING.

WHERE, WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU CONTACT BUTTER, PLEASE? WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU GET PULLED OVER, YOU KNOW, THIS WHERE YOU DO, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT RISKY DRIVING, UH, WERE WORKING ON GETTING SOME GOLF CARTS.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONTROLLED, UH, AREA THAT GOES, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A DEPUTY WITH THEM.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO RUN AROUND A TRACK WITH SOME INTOXICATION GOGGLES THAT WE HAVE, IT'S GOING TO BE CONTROLLED AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT.

AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO GET THEM TO TALK ON THE CELL PHONE AND TEXT WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING THE GOLF CART.

SO IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO.

AND I THINK, UH, THE ALEUTIAN PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THAT ON THEIR, ON THEIR PROPERTY.

SO WE APPRECIATE THAT A COUPLE OF OTHER, UH, UH, TWO OTHER EVENTS THAT IS DEFINITELY DEAR TO MY HEART IS, UH, THE JUNIOR DEPUTY CAMP.

UH, ANOTHER THING SHOUT OUT TO THE SCHOOLS FOR ALLOWING US TO DO THE ROTC BUILDING.

UM, THIS WAS, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD A, WE HAD A LOT OF, A LOT OF KIDS THERE AND IT IS A WEEK LONG PROGRAM.

AND THEY LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT LAW ENFORCEMENT.

WE HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THERE.

UH, WE HAVE MEDFLIGHT, UM, AND THAT IS, IS ACTUALLY PRETTY COOL TO SEE IN ATLANTA ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD.

UM, BUT, AND THEN THE LAST DAY WE HAVE A HUGE BLOOM OR WATER BALLOON FIGHT, AND I GOT DRENCHED.

THEY ATTACK ME, BUT IT WAS SO MUCH FUN AND WE'RE DOING IT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

AND I GOT THE DATES AT THE END OF THIS, UH, PRESENTATION, BUT WE'RE DOING AGAIN THIS YEAR AND JUST GOING TO HAVE A BLAST ALL OVER AGAIN.

THEN, UH, GRETCHEN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE DARE PROGRAM, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, UH, DARE WENT AWAY FOR AWHILE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE PLANNED ON BRINGING IT BACK, BUT PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOLS, UH, BUT THEN COVID HIT, BUT THIS IS A, THE FIRST YEAR WE GOT IT BACK.

AND, UM, WE JUST GRADUATED SOME KIDS AT RANDOLPH ELEMENTARY AND WE'RE GRADUATING KIDS AT BYRD AND GOODSON ELEMENTARY, UH, IN MARCH.

SO VERY, AS A DARE INSTRUCTOR, I WAS A DARE INSTRUCTOR FOR SEVERAL YEARS HERE IN THE COUNTY AND TAUGHT AT EVERY SCHOOL IN THE COUNTY.

AND IT'S, IT IS GREAT.

AND, UH, WE PLAN ON RUNNING WITH THIS.

UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING A HOMESCHOOL DARE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE SENDING OUT FEELERS FOR HOMESCHOOL KIDS TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO DO IT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO WORK WITH JESSICA WHO PARKS ERECT AND MAYBE HAVE IT AT CENTRAL HIGH, UH, THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO FORGET THE, UH, THE HOMESCHOOL KIDS AND EVEN PRIVATE SCHOOL KIDS, IF THEY WANT TO DO IT, THEY'RE MORE THAN WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT, I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE, UH, BUT WHAT THIS IS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT A GUCCI COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS, UH, HAS COMPLETED SINCE, UH, UH, JANUARY, 2020.

AND WITH THIS, UH, ACCOMPLISHMENTS, WE KIND OF, ONCE AGAIN, WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT, WITHOUT Y'ALL SUPPORT AND THE COMMUNITY SPORT.

UM, IN HERE, I WILL MENTION ONE OF THESE ON THIS PAGE, AND THIS IS FAR LAND VESTS AND WHAT THAT IS.

IT'S A, IT'S A VEST THAT YOU BULLETPROOF FAST, UH, IT'S COST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN ONCE WE WERE USING BEFORE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE SO MUCH LIGHTER.

THERE'S SO MUCH YOU CAN FLEXIBLE AND THEY'RE SAVING BACKS, KNOW THEY'RE SAVING THE INJURIES AND BACKS ALONG WITH OUR OUTER VESTA WE HAVE AS WELL.

AND I THINK I HEARD HER BACK HERE.

UM, BUT I DO ANOTHER ACCOMPLISHMENT IS WE HAVE OUR SECOND CANINE, WHICH IS CORPORATE LIBERTY.

YOU WANT TO BRING HER UP AND THIS IS CO-PRO LIBERTY.

SHE IS IN, SHE IS IN THE ACADEMY RIGHT NOW.

UH, BUT THIS IS, UH, DEPUTY DOLAN AND, AND THEY ARE IN TRAINING IN WHAT'S UP HERE.

AND THEY'RE IN TRAINING.

WE HAVE, UH, UH, PATRICK SHERATON.

HE'S A LIEUTENANT WITH LOUISA WHO IS, UH, UH, TRAINING, DEPUTY DOLAN AND LIBERTY FOR FREE.

IT IS GREAT.

UH, WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH LOUISA SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND SO FAR, UH, CORPORATE LIBERTY HAS BEEN BEEN GREAT.

I'VE THEY'RE SENDING ME VIDEOS OF HER AND SHE IS FINDING PEOPLE LEFT AND RIGHT.

UH, SO SAY IT IS GREAT TO HAVE HER ON, AND SHE IS A CORPORAL AND SOME PEOPLE WONDER WHY.

WELL, DEPUTY DOLAN IS THE DEPUTY AND SHE'S A CORPORAL, WELL, THE REASON WHY SHE'S A CORPORAL IS SHE TELLS HIM WHERE TO GO.

SO SHE ASKED DEPUTY DOLAN HAS TO, UH, LISTEN TO HER, BUT I DO, I DID WANT TO TAKE THIS TIME WHILE I'M UP HERE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO CORPORAL, NOT YET, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, A SENIOR AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WHO I THINK IS OUR SENIOR PROJECT TO RAISE MONEY, TO PROVIDE A VEST.

SO THAT'S, UM, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO HER DAD AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT THAT IS COOL FOR LIBERTY.

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HEY, ONE OF THE NEW THINGS WE DID WITH THE K9, SINCE WE HAVE SOME NEW CANINES THAT IS ALREADY, HE'S ACTUALLY WEARING HIS NEW CANINE UNIFORM FOR THE FIRST TIME HERE.

SO I BET I KNOW I CAN JUST STEP, I CAN JUST SIT DOWN.

SO, SO ONE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO, UH, UH, POINT OUT ON HERE IS WE HAVE A, UH, THANKS FOR WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND CHIEF FERGUSON.

WE HAVE A WESTERN FIELD OFFICE AT COMPANY SIX.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE OFFICE IN THERE.

WE HAVE OUR, UM, UH, COMPUTER IN THERE.

IT'S SECURE WITH LOCKED UP WHEREVER WHERE WE CAN PUT OUR BODY CAMERAS AND EVERYTHING IN THERE AND JUST LOCK THEM UP IN THERE.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FIELD OFFICE, EVEN THOUGH OUR VEHICLES, OUR OFFICE, WE HAVE EVERYTHING IN OUR VEHICLE THAT YOU NEED TO DO AT A CALL.

BUT IF WE DO NEED TO MEET SOMEBODY, DOWNLOAD A VIDEO, WE GO TO, WE CAN GO TO COMPANY SIX, WE DID ATTEMPT IT AT ONE OF THE EASTERN FIRE COMPANIES.

UH, BUT JUST THE, THE, UH, INTERNET SERVICE IS NOT AS GOOD DOWN THERE AS THE COUNTY INTERNET.

UM, ALSO, UH, AND HOPEFULLY WITH THE EASTERN FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE CAN PUT A FIELD AT PHILADELPHUS OUT THERE AS WELL.

AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, COME BY AND SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING, COME BY AND SEE WHAT WOULD, UH, WHERE Y'ALL ARE HELPING PROVIDE, UH, TO THE KIDS.

AND ANOTHER LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS, THE THREE SLIDES.

UM, BUT THERE THERE'S SO MUCH MORE, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE PROBABLY DON'T KNOW IT, BUT WE HAVE A BOMB ROBOT.

UH, UH, WE HAVE A ROBOT, UM, IT'S A $75,000 ROBOT AND WE GOT IT FOR NOTHING IS, UH, ACTUALLY IS CAPTAIN BEAR.

AND I WERE GOING TO A MEETING UP AT RAPPAHANNOCK AND SOMEONE CALLED AND SAID, DO YOU WANT TO, YOU WANT TO BOMB ROBOT TO CAPTAIN BEAR? AND HE SAID, YES.

SO WE HAVE A BOMB ROBOT.

SO, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THIS, BUT WE ACTUALLY J UH, CAPTAIN BEAR IS ALSO A BOMB TECH.

SO WE HAVE THAT HERE IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY.

IT'S NOT HERE.

ALRIGHT.

UH, ANOTHER ACCOMPLISHMENT IS OUR HONOR GUARD.

WE HAVEN'T HAD AN HONOR GUARD IN GIBSON COUNTY FOR OVER 15 YEARS.

UH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.

THIS IS OUR HONOR GUARD WHO WAS CHOSEN OUT OF, UH, MANY, UH, PDS AND SHERIFF'S OFFICES ACROSS THE STATE TO BE IN THE INAUGURAL PARADE THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, THESE ARE THE GUYS AND GAL WHO WERE IN IT AND THEY REPRESENTED GOOCHLAND VERY WELL.

UM, IT WAS A GREAT TIME.

IT WAS VERY COLD, UH, BUT IT WAS A GREAT TIME AND THIS WAS THEIR FIRST EVENT.

SO A LITTLE NERVES WITH THEM, BUT THEY DID.

I THINK I HAVE SERGEANT JONES AND DEPUTY DAVIS IN THE BACK, OR SHE WENT ON THE CALL.

THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

AND ALSO AN APP.

WE ARE GETTING THE GOOSE AND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE APP.

WE'RE HOPING TO LAUNCH THAT, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF MARCH.

AND AS YOU SEE, THIS IS A SCREENSHOT FROM A PHONE.

AND WHAT IT DOES IS PEOPLE YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE APP TO SCHOOLS, CAN DOWNLOAD THE APP.

WE HAVE, UM, YOU CAN GO IN HERE AND GIVE TIPS.

YOU CAN APPLY FOR A JOB.

UH, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OUR NEWS FEED, LOOK UP COURT CASES, ANYTHING, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO LOOK UP WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, YOU CAN FIND IT HERE, BUT ALSO, UH, THIS THING DOES WORK.

IF YOU SEE WHERE THE THERE'S A LITTLE ENVELOPE UP AT THE TOP, THOSE ARE SO WE CAN DO PUSH NOTIFICATIONS.

SO OUR PLAN IS IF THERE'S A CAR CRASH AT FAIRGROUND, THE MAIDENS AND IS BLOCKING THE WHOLE ROAD, WE'RE GOING TO PUT OUT NOTIFICATIONS, YOU KNOW, USE ALTERNATE ROUTES HERE TO WHOEVER DOWNLOADS THE APP.

IF WE HAVE MISSING, UH, KIDS MISSING PEOPLE, WE CAN ALSO PUSH IT OUT THERE, THERE, IF WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT AS A DANGER TO SOCIETY, WE'LL PUSH THEM OUT THERE BUT MUCH IN THE NEWS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS WELL.

BUT THIS IS A DIRECT LINK THAT WE CAN PUSH OUT TO THE CITIZENS, UH, TO BUS DRIVERS, YOU KNOW, OR THE BUS DEPARTMENT TO KNOW, HEY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE OUR KIDS THAT WAY, BECAUSE THERE'S SOME TYPE OF HAZARD.

ALSO, I MENTIONED ABOUT HAVING CLASSES AND TRAINING BROUGHT TO GUCCI GOOCHLAND.

THESE ARE TWO OF THEM.

UH, THESE ABOUT THE FBI, UM, LITA, IT'S A LEADERSHIP PROGRAM.

UM, BUT NEXT YEAR, I'M SORRY.

AND THIS OCTOBER WHERE YOU HOLDING A INTERNAL AFFAIRS INVESTIGATION, UH, HERE IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY, AND THEN NEXT YEAR WE'RE HOLDING THE SUPERVISOR LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE TRAINING AND GOSHEN COUNTY.

AND, AND THESE ARE THE ONES, THE, UH, YOU HAVE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE STATE AND ALL OVER THE NATION HERE.

AND LIKE I SAID, THE, UH, THERE'S A SHERIFF FROM LOUISIANA.

UH, THAT'S ALREADY SIGNED UP FOR THE, UH, AIAA CLASS.

SO HE'S COMING UP FOR THAT TRAINING AND THE EVENTS THAT ARE COMING UP, UH, KIDS' FISHING DAY, APRIL 30TH.

UH, IF YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, COME, UH, WET A LINE WITH US IN THE KIDS UP AT THE CUB SCOUT CAMP, THEN WE'RE DOING OUR SECOND JUNIOR DEPUTY ACADEMY AT THE ROTC BUILDING.

EVEN IF YOU COME BY FOR

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WE DON'T CHARGE THEM A PENNY TO BE THERE.

AND IT, IT'S A GREAT TIME.

UH, IF YOU COME ON FRIDAY, WATCH OUT FOR THE WATER BALLOONS, YOU PROBABLY GET HIT.

I WON'T THROW IT ASHY.

UH, THEN WE HAVE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR.

IT'S GOING TO BE AUGUST 2ND, THIS YEAR ON THE COURTHOUSE GREEN.

AND FINALLY, THIS IS JUST SORT OF A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE GIBSON SHERIFF'S OFFICE, DEPUTIES AND DISPATCHERS FROM, FROM ME, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE MEN AND WOMEN, UH, BEHIND ME GO OUT EVERY DAY AND PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE TO PROTECT ALL OF US, UH, ALL OF THE CITIZENS, INCLUDING MYSELF WHEN I AM ASLEEP IN THE BED.

AND ALSO MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER AND FAMILY, WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE UP AND DOWN THESE ROADS.

SO I WANTED TO, UH, TO EXTEND MY, THANKS TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.

UM, AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE GET, UH, THIS EMAIL RIGHT HERE WAS RECEIVING THIS, WE'VE RECEIVED THIS WEEKEND, AND IT TALKS ABOUT DEPUTY DOLAN, YOU KNOW, FINDING A WALLET AND DOING SOMETHING AND HAVING AN INTERACTION WITH A VISITOR FROM MECHANICSVILLE AND JUST AS PRAISE, UH, TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, UH, PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER RECOGNIZED GUCCI COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEY RECOGNIZE GOOCHLAND COUNTY.

AS YOU CAN SEE AT THE VERY LAST SENTENCE, HE SAID, GEISHA INDEED OR GEISHA IS INDEED A WONDERFUL AND SPECIAL COMMUNITY.

AND I AGREE WITH THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT BECAUSE IT IS, AND I IS BECAUSE OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WITH THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, AND YOU GUYS AND GALS UP HERE ON THIS BOARD THAT A GUCCI ON IS INDEED A WONDERFUL PLACE AND A SPECIAL COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK THE GUYS AND GALS AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, I THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU ALL THAT Y'ALL DO AS WELL.

AND I'LL ANSWER.

THANK YOU, SHERIFF CHRISTIE, AND THANKS FROM ALL US FOR ALL YOU DID TO MAKE IT A SPECIAL COMMUNITY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR MS. PLUGINS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, QUESTION IS TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I'M LOOKING AT WHAT SHERIFF CREASY HAS REQUESTED, AND THEN WHAT YOU PROPOSED IN YOUR SLIDE.

THEY LOOK LIKE THEY ALIGN, OR ARE WE MEETING, UH, DOES YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, MEET THE REQUEST, THE LINE? UH, WE, WE SUPPORTED ALL THE DEPUTY POSITIONS AND THE PART-TIME ADMINISTRATIVE AND LIBERTY POSITIONS.

THE ONLY THING WE DID NOT SUPPORT WERE TWO POSITIONS FOR WHAT DID YOU CALL THEM? THE PUBLIC SECURITY IS SECURITY OFFICER.

SECURITY OFFICERS THAT WOULD NOT GOING TO BE A SWORN OFFICERS.

OH, BUT YOU DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION.

I DID NOT KNOW.

SO, SO THANK YOU ALL FOR, WE WORKED IT OUT TOGETHER.

THANK YOU ALL FOR LINING IT UP.

I MEAN, NOT, NOT THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TACKLED IT, BUT THAT'S APPRECIATE IT.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, SO THAT INCLUDES, OBVIOUSLY YOU GAVE US A SUMMARY, YOU HAD THE DEPTH, THE POSITIONS, THEN PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, BUT SHERIFF GREASY I'LL SHOW IT A BUNCH OF OTHER THINGS, TRAINING, UH, OVERTIME, PAY GAS, CAM CAGE CAMPS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO THE BUDGET IS GOING TO MEET ALL THOSE DETAILS REQUEST.

ACTUALLY ONE THING THAT WE DID, AND AT THE LAST MINUTE WE WERE TRYING TO BALANCE THE CIP AS WELL AS THE, UH, UH, OPERATIONAL BUDGET.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IS WE TOLD THEM I CALLED THEM AND I SAID, DO YOU MIND GETTING ONE DEPUTY WITHOUT A CAR? AND SO WE WORKED IT OUT.

WE ALREADY HAVE EIGHT CARS IN THE BUDGET AND REPLACEMENT COSTS IN THE BUDGET.

SO HE SAID, YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN MANAGE.

SO ANYWAY, SO WE, SO WE DID THAT AND THAT'S HOW CLOSE IT COMES WHEN IT, WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE NUMBERS ADD UP.

AND I SAW IN, IN THE DETAIL ON OUR PAGE 1 55 IN OUR BUDGET, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE CHANGE THINGS.

WHEN I HEARD THE DOG DOG WALKING IN, I, I LOOKED AT CANINE SUPPLIES, YOU'RE DOWN LIKE 50% ON THE CANINES.

SO I HOPE THAT JUST MEANS YOU HAD MORE THAN THE BUDGET THAN YOU NEEDED BEFORE.

AND IT WAS PART OF, IT WAS FOR THE PURCHASE.

OH, OKAY.

UM, BUT THAT'S A SMALL ITEM THAT THE FUEL IS OF COURSE, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALL PAYING ATTENTION TO.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE A BUDGET IS A 7.7 INCREASE FROM, UM, ADOPTED TO PROPOSED.

AND I WAS JUST THINKING, IS THAT ENOUGH, GIVEN THE PRICE RISE? AND IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.

I'M SURE WE ALL USE FORMULAS, BUT WE HAVE LOOKING TO MS. HORLOCKER, WE'VE COUNTED A LOT OF NEW VEHICLES, SEVERAL NEW VEHICLES PLUS, UM, INCREASE IN FUEL COSTS.

SO SEEING THAT, I'M SURE YOU ALL COME TO WITH THE NUMBER THAT MADE ME THINK, HOW ARE YOU DOING THIS YEAR WITH YOUR BUDGET? CAUSE I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THE INCREASES.

SO HOW, HOW ARE THINGS GOING WITH YOUR BUDGET IN TERMS OF MEET MEETING, YOU KNOW, OPERATING WITHIN YOUR BUDGET? I THINK WITH, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO FUEL, I THINK WE'RE THE WHOLE EVERYTHING I SUPPOSE.

OH, WE'RE, WE'RE MEETING EVERYTHING IN OUR BUDGET.

I THINK WE'RE WHERE PRETTY GOOD OVERTIME OVERTIME IS SOMETHING YOU

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MENTIONED.

AND IF, IF WE ADOPT THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UM, UM, I'M COUNTING ON YOU TELLING US THAT THAT'S GOING TO RELIEVE SOME PRESSURE ON THE OVERTIME.

IT, IT WILL, IT WILL.

THE, UH, THE OVERTIME FOR, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASED HAS ALSO JUST TO KEEP MANPOWER ON THE ROAD AND ALSO FOR THE OTHER GOVERNMENT OR, UH, GOVERNMENT EVENTS AND TAKE SOME PRESSURE IF, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GET THESE PLAY, THERE'S TODD, THERE'S A, THERE'S A TIME TO GET THE POSITIONS FILLED.

WE HAVE.

SO, YEAH.

AND YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS TALK TO YOU ABOUT, THIS IS THE CALEA ACCREDITATION IN THE HORIZON.

IT IS, IT IS THE, UH, WE ACTUALLY, UH, SOMEONE IN THE ROOM IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY LEADING IT UP.

UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT PROBABLY TRYING TO TACKLE THAT.

PROBABLY I'M GUESSING PROBABLY FYI 20, 25.

GOTCHA.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

WELL, UM, I'M IMPRESSED AND IMPRESSED WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING.

AND THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. PETERSON, SHERIFF, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT THERE AND I APPRECIATE YOU THAT GOING THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE, BUT, UM, BUT IT STRUCK ME AS I'VE LISTENED TO THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION, THAT ONE OF THE THEMES THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE IS ALL THE VARIOUS PROGRAMS YOU HAVE STARTING WITH YOUNG KIDS, TEENAGERS, ADULTS, ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO BRING LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER.

SOME PEOPLE CALL IT COMMUNITY ENFORCEMENT, BUT TO BRING THEM TOGETHER AND TO ELIMINATE THAT WE, THEY AND GET RID OF THAT TWO SIDES BIT AND JUST COME TOGETHER AS ONE.

AND THAT PERMEATES JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING HE PRESENTED.

AND FOR ME, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SHOULD BE COMMENDED FOR.

UM, THAT'S JUST FANTASTIC.

THE OTHER THING THAT OCCURRED TO ME IS IN OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION, PRIOR TO YOUR PRESENTATION, WE SAW THE HEAVY INVESTMENT THIS COUNTY HAS MADE IN, IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND I JUST LOOKED AT THAT CHART.

I THOUGHT, WHERE WOULD WE BE TODAY IF WE DIDN'T DO THAT OVER THE LAST FIVE OR 10 YEARS, THAT THE WHOLE WE WERE DUG OURSELVES INTO AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THAT MOMENTUM AND GO FORWARD.

BUT IF WE HADN'T HAD DONE THAT, WHERE WOULD BE TODAY? SO I APPRECIATE YOUR SHARING WITH US, WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE, WE CAN'T MEET THEM.

AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT OUR BUDGET DOES ALIGN WITH YOUR NEEDS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHERYL.

THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON.

UH, THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, SO THANKS SHERIFF.

I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU AND EVERYONE DOES.

UH, I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU FOR A MINUTE ABOUT, UH, SALARIES AND OVERTIME.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY ON PAGE 1 50, 3 OF OUR PACKET WHERE YOU'RE PROPOSING AN INCREASE IN OVERTIME.

SO I THOUGHT WE WERE PART OF, UH, ADDING MORE PEOPLE WAS GOING TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT OVER TIMES.

CAN YOU TALK THROUGH THAT WITH US? YEAH.

W WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE HOPING ONCE ALL THE POSITIONS ARE FILLED, UM, WHEN WE REVISIT IT COME NEXT YEAR, THEN IT COULD POSSIBLY GO DOWN.

UM, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW WHERE YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE OVERTIME, WHEN WE DO HAVE, UM, COVID HITS AND OTHER UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, UH, THAT CAN HAPPEN ON A WHIM, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE ON, LIKE WE'VE HAD, UH, LAST YEAR, UM, THAT IS ALSO SORT OF A LITTLE CUSHION THERE WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE, UH, PRETTY MUCH ALL HANDS ON DECK FOR THREE WEEKS IN A ROW, UM, WHERE THAT OVERTIME WILL GET EATEN UP PRETTY, PRETTY GOOD IN THREE WEEKS.

FOLLOW-UP UH, TRAINING.

SO, UM, IT WAS WAY BACK EARLY IN YOUR PRESENTATION WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TRAINING COSTS, BUT THEN LATER UNDER ANOTHER LINE ITEM, YOU SAID THE ACADEMY WAS THERE, HELPED ME PUT TOGETHER THE TRAINING COST.

SO JUST THAT I CAN FOLLOW YOU.

WHY DON'T WE JUST CHANGE THE TITLE THIS WAY? WHY WE GOT IT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT, I AGREE WITH YOU.

WELL, YOU HAVE YOUR ACADEMY TRAINING, WHICH IS ACTUALLY UNDER THE, UH, CORRECTION IN DETENTION.

UH, THE ACADEMY, WE HAVE TO PAY CERTAIN AMOUNTS FOR, UH, RAPPAHANNOCK REGIONAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE ACADEMY FOR EVERY DEPUTY DISPATCHER, ALL THAT, UM, ALSO THEIR UNIFORMS. WE HAVE TO BUY THEIR UNIFORMS FOR THEM TO GO TO THE ACADEMY.

THEY DON'T WEAR OUR UNIFORMS. THEY WEAR AN ACADEMY UNIFORM AND ANYTHING NEEDED FROM THE ACADEMY COMES OUT OF THERE.

THE OTHER TRAINING IN THE, IN THE COURTS DISPATCH, AND, UM, SHERIFF'S BUDGET IS ALL EXTRA TRAINING.

IT'S SERVICE TRAINING, IT'S SUPERVISORY TRAINING IT'S.

AND SO THAT LINE ITEM, UM, THIS IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE STATE BUDGET IS DONE LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, WHY,

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I WAS ACTUALLY TALKING TO OUR OFFICE MANAGER TODAY AND WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHY THIS IS IN THERE, THE WAY IT WAS IN THERE IS THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGING.

ONE THING IS FOR THE GOVERNMENT EVENT, NO BIG DEAL, BUT IT'D BE NICE IF YOU CALL IT WHAT IT WAS.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MS. LET'S IT I'M SURE IF I HAD A QUESTION AND A COMMENT ON SLIDE 10, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE INCREASE IN TOTAL CALLS FOR SERVICE, DOES THAT INCLUDE IT WOULD A TRAFFIC STOP INITIATED BY A DEPUTY, INCLUDING CALL FOR SERVICE.

THAT IS A CALL FOR SERVICE.

YEP.

AND HAVE YOU EVER, HAVE WE EVER LOOKED AT, UM, SORT OF AS INCOMING CALLS TAKES, TAKES PRECEDENT OVER, OUT BEING ON PATROLLING? CORRECT.

I WOULD IMAGINE, HAVE YOU HAD, DO YOU HAVE ANY NUMBERS MAYBE AT A LATER DATE YOU'D SHARE THE SHOW, HOW MANY ACTUALLY TRAFFIC STOPS IN PATROL CALLS? I WOULD IMAGINE AS THE CALLS COME IN TO COME IN, THEN THE PATROLLING HAS TO GO DOWN.

CORRECT.

IT'D JUST BE INTERESTING TO SEE, BUT AT SOME POINT, UM, AND THEN, UM, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE TEEN DRIVER COURSE AND I HEARD FROM A CITIZEN BECAUSE IT'S GOOGLE AND EVERYTHING HAPPENS FAST THAT, UH, I THINK MAYBE LAST NIGHT I WAS TALKING TO THE CITIZENS ABOUT LITTER.

SO I AM HOPEFUL THAT AS YOU, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN INCLUDE IN YOUR TEAM DRIVER COURSE IS THE LITTLE ANTI-LITTERING PLUG FOR OUR COUNTY.

WE DID GET JUST THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, BOARD.

THANKS, SHERIFF GREASY.

AND THANK YOU GUYS.

I BOARD, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS AN HOUR AND A HALF.

WE HAVE THREE MORE PRESENTATIONS AND THEN MS. TWIZ DELLS, UM, AND WE'VE GOTTEN, WE'VE GOT TWO PRESENTATIONS AN HOUR AND A HALF.

ARE WE OKAY TO KEEP GOING? OR DO WE WANT TO TAKE A QUICK 10 MINUTE BREAK? I'M GOING TO TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK AND THEN WE'LL HAVE TO PICK IT UP TO MAKE SURE WE'RE A BIG HAND ON THE SEVENTH, BIG HAND ON A SEVEN.

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UH, VISIT, UM, SEVERAL HOSPITALS, UH, BOTH IN THE RICHMOND AREA, AS WELL AS THE CHARLOTTESVILLE AREA.

THANKS EVERYBODY FOR YOUR BACK.

AND NOW WE HAVE CHIEF FERGUSON TAKEN AWAY.

CHIEF.

THANK YOU, MS. SPOON, HAUER AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

UH, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU TODAY AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FIRE RESCUES, UH, Y 23 A BUDGET REQUEST, UH, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M JOINED HERE TODAY BY SEVERAL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMAND STAFF, UH, DEPUTY CHIEF GORDON, DEPUTY CHIEF WATKINS, BATTALION, CHIEF MARQUEE.

AND WE HAVE BOARD MEMBER MIKE HARMON.

I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE MISSED ANYBODY ELSE, BUT, UM, CERTAINLY IF WE, ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY COME UP, WE'LL CERTAINLY DO OUR BEST TO, UH, TO ANSWER THOSE AND AN HONOR TO PRESENT THE BUDGET TO YOU AND SERVE AS A FIRE CHIEF AND RECOGNIZE ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT OUR VOLUNTEER AND CAREER MEMBERS OF THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT DO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, UH, TO SOME OF THOSE POINTS.

UM, I KNOW WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE BEFORE YOU SEVERAL TIMES RECENTLY.

AND SO WE'LL TRY TO MOVE THROUGH SOME OF THE SLIDES RATHER QUICKLY, UH, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, AS MANY QUESTIONS AS YOU WOULD, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, TO ANSWER.

UH, CERTAINLY, UH, BY NOW EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, UH, 2021 WAS A REALLY BUSY YEAR FOR FIRE RESCUE.

UH, THERE WAS AL THERE WERE A LOT OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BUT ALSO A LOT OF CALLS FOR SERVICE AND LOOKING AT, UM, A 22% INCREASE IN OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE FROM, UH, FROM 2020 WITH, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, CERTAINLY OUR BUDGET REQUESTS REPRESENTS SOME OF THAT, UH, GOING FORWARD, UH, ALL OF THE FORECASTS AND THE EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE THINK IS, IS, IS PROBABLY A YET TO COME.

IT'S GOOD NEWS THAT, UH, OUR EMS RESPONSE TIMES WE TEND TO MONITOR THOSE.

UH, IF YOU RECALL, WE ARE, UH, BOUND BY THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF VIRGINIA OFFICE OF EMS TO HAVE MS. RESPONSE TIME STANDARDS FOR, FOR THE LOCALITY.

UH, AND THEY HAVE DECREASED, UM, A LITTLE BIT, UH, THE BIG DECREASE CAME WHEN WE, UH, PROVIDED STAFFING INTO THE FIRE STATIONS, 24 HOUR CAREER STAFFING, UH, WORKING WITH VOLUNTEER MEMBERS IN, UH, 2019.

AND WE'RE WATCHING THOSE BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE THAT AS THE DEPARTMENT GETS BUSIER, THOSE RESPONSE TIMES THEY HAVE A TENDENCY TO SORT OF CREEP BACK UP.

AND I CAN NOT TALK A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT.

UH, IN A FUTURE SLIDE, WE CERTAINLY,

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HERE I GO, DOCTOR, AS FAR AS THE MOTIFS AND THE BOND SECURES FACILITIES, LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE PERSONNEL THAT, UH, THEY HANDLE THE EMS CALLS.

UH, CERTAINLY, UH, 85% IS HANDLED BY CAREER MEMBERS, 13% BY COMBINATION CREWS AND 2% OF VOLUNTEERS.

NOW, WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO GET FROM THAT IS THAT IF THE CALLS ARE INCREASING, WE STILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT VOLUNTEER INVOLVEMENT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE NUMBER OF CALLS AND THE DUTY HOURS AND SO FORTH THAT, UH, WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, TO USE, TO, TO KEEP THE BUDGET LOW AND THAT TYPE OF THING.

UM, BUT ALSO WANTS YOU TO KNOW THAT THE INVESTMENT YOU'RE MAKING, UH, IS ALSO IN THE RIGHT AREAS, INCLUDING, UM, THE CAREER STAFF, AS WELL AS A VOLUNTEER RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION AND ALL THE GOOD THINGS THAT WE, UH, WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO AND AN OFFER ON THOSE.

CERTAINLY A FIRE RESPONSE TIMES ARE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER SINCE THE LAST TIME YOU SAW THEM, UH, ABOUT 12, UH, 12 MINUTES AS THE COUNTY AVERAGE.

AND WHAT I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT IS THE FIRE, THE FIRE RESPONSE TIMES, UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, UH, THAT, THAT DRIVE THAT.

AND WE DO A LOT OF WHAT I WERE TO CONSIDER TO BE CROSS STAFFING BETWEEN THE UNITS WHERE WE HAVE THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE ON DUTY IN THE FIRE STATIONS AS HANDLING BOTH THE FIRE CALLS AND THE AMBULANCE CALLS SO MANY TIMES, UH, A CREW THAT'S SCHEDULED TO BE ASSIGNED TO A FIRE STATION MAY BE ALREADY ON AN AMBULANCE CALL.

AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE MAY HAVE A DELAY OR A FIRE.

UH, A SECONDARY RESOURCE MAY, UH, MAY HAVE TO COMMENT AND ANSWER THAT, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS INCREASING THEIR STAFFING NUMBERS AND TO TRY TO WORK TOWARDS MORE INDEPENDENT STAFFING, UH, FOR BOTH THE AMBULANCE AND AT LEAST ONE, ONE FIRE ENGINE.

AGAIN, THE FIRE CREW BREAKDOWN OF 58%, UH, CAREER 18% COMBINATION CREWS, UH, COMBINATION CREW FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE PRESENTATION IS A CREW THAT, THAT WE'RE VERY PROUD OF.

IT'S A CREW THAT'S MADE UP OF BOTH VOLUNTEER AND CAREER MEMBERS WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THE JOB DONE.

AND THEN ABOUT 24% OF THE FIRE CALLS ARE HANDLED BY, UM, BY VOLUNTEERS.

UH, CERTAINLY YOU CAN GET FROM THE, THESE TWO SLIDES THAT WE'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT, THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE MORE VOLUNTEER PARTICIPATION, UH, AND FIRE CALLS.

THEN WE HAVE THOSE WHO ACTUALLY RIDE THE AMBULANCES.

UH, BUT THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE DO, WE DO HAVE A VERY DEDICATED VOLUNTEER MEMBERS THAT ARE VERY SKILLED, UH, PARAMEDICS AND SO FORTH THAT, UH, THAT DO RIDE THE AMBULANCES AS WELL.

PROPERTY LOSSES, UH, HAS GONE UP A LITTLE BIT SINCE WE, UH, FINISHED OUT THE CALENDAR YEAR 2021, UH, A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO $2.7 MILLION.

UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UM, OH, IT'S ALMOST $3 MILLION, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE COST OF THE HOMES, AND IF YOU HAVE ONE SIGNIFICANT, UH, LARGE SQUARE FOOTAGE, HOME, FIRE HOUSE FIRE, IN THE COURSE OF A PERIOD, IT CAN RELEASE A SKI OR YOUR, UH, PROPERTY LOSSES.

UH, BUT CERTAINLY THERE'VE BEEN SAVINGS AS WELL.

UH, MUTUAL AID, UM, CONTINUES TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE, WE TEND TO GIVE MORE THAN WE RECEIVE.

UH, BUT BECAUSE AS YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY BEFORE, BECAUSE OF OUR LOCATION AND PROXIMITY TO THE INTERSTATE AND WHERE A FIRE STATIONS ARE LOCATED, IN SOME CASES, WE'RE IN A BETTER POSITION TO GIVE MORE MUTUAL AID TO THE, UH, TO THE CALLS, PARTICULARLY ON BROAD STREET IN THE INTERSTATE LOUISA COUNTY IS, UH, IS, IS THE TOP, UM, TOP COUNTY, AS FAR AS WHO WE GIVE MUTUAL AID TO THE MOST, UH, POWER TAN CUMBERLAND.

AND IT GOES ON, GOES ON FROM THERE, LIKE THE SHERIFF SAID, UH, TRAINING IS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, TO OUR BUSINESS, UH, THINGS THAT ARE LOW FREQUENCY, HIGH RISK IS KIND OF WHAT WE BUILD OUR TRAINING AROUND.

UM, THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T TRAIN ON ALL OF OUR TOPICS, UH, EMT CLASSES, FIRE ACADEMIES.

WHEN WE BRING IN NEW CAREER STAFF, WE DO A, UH, A NEW HIRE ORIENTATION OF MANY RECRUIT SCHOOL, UH, AS WELL AS ALL THE CONTINUED EDUCATION CLASSES THAT IT TAKES FOR A FIREFIGHTER OR AN EMT OR PARAMEDIC TO KEEP THEIR CERTIFICATION.

SO CARROT, UH, PARTICULARLY EMS CERTIFICATIONS, THEY HAVE TO BE RENEWED EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS OR THREE YEARS OR FOUR YEARS, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE STATE'S SCHEDULE FOR THAT.

UH, SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE THE TYPES OF CLASSES, UH, EVERYTHING FROM, UH, THE LEARNING PLATFORMS THAT WE USE, UH, WEB BASED SYSTEMS TO THE ACTUAL CLASSES.

AND THEN, UH, ALSO LIKE THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, SHERIFF CHRISSY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH HIS PRESENTATION.

UH, WE TRY TO BRANCH OUT AND, AND ALLOW FOLKS TO GO TO CONFERENCES AND CLASSES ACROSS THE STATE, TRY TO GET NEW IDEAS AND BRING THOSE IDEAS BACK BACK TO ERIK COUNTY.

AND WE BENCHMARK AGAINST OTHER, UH, ORGANIZATIONS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, LATER THIS WEEK, UH, SEVERAL OF US ARE GOING INTO VIRGINIA BEACH FOR THE VIRGINIA FIRE RESCUE CONFERENCE, WHICH HAS A REALLY STRONG EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT TO IT, AS WELL AS, UH, APPARATUS EXHIBIT HALL THAT WE CAN SEE THE NEW EQUIPMENT AND SO FORTH.

THEN WE HAVE ONE, ONE FIREFIGHTER THAT'S ACTUALLY TRAVELING OUT OF STATE TO A CANCER

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SYMPOSIUM FOR THE FIRE SERVICE.

SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT.

YOU'VE HEARD US SPEAK ABOUT BEFORE TO TRY TO LEARN AS MUCH AS WE CAN, UH, ABOUT, UH, HOW TO PREVENT CANCER IN OUR LINE OF WORK.

WE'VE HAD MANY RECENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS, UH, IN THE COUNTY.

UH, CERTAINLY, UH, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE ONES, UH, THAT THE TWO PICTURES YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF, UH, NEW TANKER AND OUR NEW LADDER TRUCK, YOU KNOW, WENT INTO SERVICE, BUT IT'S BEEN FAR MORE THAN THAT.

AND, UH, WE'VE HAD A BATTALION CHIEF THAT'S BEEN PROMOTED, A CAPTAIN THAT WAS PROMOTED AND ASSIGNED TO THE TRAINING DIVISION TO SUPPORT THE THINGS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

TWO LIEUTENANTS, WE HIRED SEVEN FIREFIGHTERS.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR, UM, FOR ACTUALLY WHAT YOU DID TO HELP THE VOLUNTEER INCENTIVES, AS FAR AS REDUCING THAT PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX, UH, TO PRETTY MUCH ZERO FOR A VOLUNTEER MEMBER FOR ONE VEHICLE.

AND NOW IT'S 2022.

SO THAT IS AN EFFECT.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT NOW TO SEE THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THAT, UH, FOR THAT FIRST TAX BILL THAT COMES OUT INTO MAY AND JUNE.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE, UM, THE SALARY INCREASE, THE, THE COMPETITIVE PAY PLAN THAT YOU ALLOWED US TO IMPLEMENT IN JANUARY.

AND ALSO WANT TO MENTION TO YOU THAT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAD ASKED US TO BRING FORWARD WAS A CAREER DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM FOR THAT RETENTION BASE.

BUT I WANT W WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET, BUT I AM CERTAIN THAT IT'S IN THE HANDS OF HR.

AND I KNOW THERE IS A PAY, UH, STUDY BEING DONE.

AND I'M CERTAIN THAT IT'S PROBABLY ARE BEING LOOKED AT AND INCLUDED IN THAT.

UH, WE DO HAVE SOME, SOME ROUGH NUMBERS, UH, IF ANYONE NEEDS THEM, BUT, UH, THOSE NUMBERS DO NOT REFLECT IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION WOULD COME THROUGH HR AT SOME POINT SOON TO NEW AMBULANCES, UH, PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT, UH, THE OPTICOM SYSTEMS. AND SO, SO MANY OTHER THINGS, TOO MANY TO, UH, TO LIST ON A SLOT.

I KNOW YOU ALWAYS ASK ABOUT, I DRAW HYDRANTS, AND I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT THE DRY HYDRANTS ARE IN GOOD CONDITION.

EVERY YEAR.

WE START TO LOOK AT THOSE AND DO AN ANNUAL MAINTENANCE, PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ON THOSE.

AND WE HAVE 65 OPERATIONAL DRAW HYDRANTS ACROSS THE COUNTY FOR THE RURAL WATER SUPPLY AREAS.

AND OF COURSE WE HAVE, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COUNTY, I THINK MR. ALVAREZ SAID EARLIER, 85% RULE, AND ABOUT 15% GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AND BUSINESS, WE ALSO HAVE, UH, AN INCREASING NUMBER OF COUNTY FIRE HYDRANTS, WHICH IS GOOD.

UH, WE ARE JUST ABOUT READY TO START THE SPRAYING DRY HYDRANT MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

AND WE'LL PUT, UH, SOME NOTICES OUT TO THE PUBLIC AND TO THE LANDOWNERS THAT ACTUALLY, UH, ALLOW US TO COME ON THEIR PROPERTY AND DO THAT.

UH, IMPROVEMENTS ARE, UH, UNDERWAY AT THE HENLEY FIRE RESCUE TRAINING CENTER.

UH, WE HAVE HAD, I THINK WE'VE MADE A LOT OF GOOD PROGRESS THERE.

WE'VE MADE A LOT OF GOOD PROGRESS IN PLANNING AS FAR AS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THE SITE THERE TO MAKE IT THROUGH UNTIL MAYBE, UH, UH, POSSIBLY A NEW HOME FOR THE, FOR THE HENLEY FIRE RESCUE TRAINING CENTER.

UM, I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE BURN BUILDING, UH, HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN REPAIRED.

IT'S NO LONGER, WE NO LONGER BURN IN IT, BUT WE CAN DO TRAINING IN IT AGAIN.

UH, WE USE IT FOR COLD TRAINING AND WE JUST HAD NEW WINDOWS IN IT.

AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WERE REPORTED, UH, THAT NEEDED TO BE CORRECTED THE MASONARY REPAIRS AND THE WINDOWS AND THE PAINTING AND SO FORTH.

WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT.

AND I COMMEND DEPUTY CHIEF WATKINS IN HIS TRAINING STAFF FOR, FOR GETTING THAT DONE WATER RESCUE, UM, CONTINUES TO BE A SERVICE THAT WE OFFER THAT WE SEE AN INCREASE IN ACTIVITY EVERY YEAR.

AND OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT UP A BOAT IN SERVICE.

UH, THAT'S PICTURED ON THE SLIDE THAT, THAT WE WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO ACQUIRE FROM CHESTERFIELD FIRE AND EMS THAT OF AT A VERY LOW COST AND ALSO A BRAND NEW BOAT, UH, THAT WE HAD ORDERED.

UH, AND SO NOW WE HAVE FOUR BOATS, AND I THINK THAT WILL, WILL KEEP US IN A REALLY GOOD CONDITION AS FAR AS CAPABILITIES OF WATER RESCUE, UH, GOING FORWARD EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES.

UH, IT'S ALWAYS A BUSY PART OF THE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, 70 PLUS PERCENT OF WHAT WE DO IS EMS. UH, THE DEPARTMENT WAS RECOGNIZED IN 2021 WITH ANOTHER MISSION LIFELINE AWARD.

UH, WE PLACED, UH, TWO NEW AMBULANCES IN SERVICE, UH, A BRAND NEW ANIMAL.

LANCE WENT TO FIVE COMPANY FOUR AND ANOTHER ONE WENT TO ACCOMPANY SIX IN HAYDENVILLE THAT ALLOWED US TO MOVE, MOVE UNITS AROUND AND MOVE A UNIT THAT WAS A, A COUPLE OF YEARS OLD IN THE MANNEQUIN, UH, THAT HAD LOW MILEAGE ON IT, AS WELL AS, UM, DISPOSE OF A UNIT THAT HAD REACHED THIS, UH, LIFE EXPECTANCY AND NEEDED TO BE DECOMMISSIONED.

SO VENTILATORS, UH, THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO USE AND WERE PURCHASED WITH THE CARES MONEY, UH, CONTINUED TO PROVE TO BE A GREAT MEDICAL, UM, PROCEDURE AND SKILL THAT IT'S HELPING OUR PATIENTS, PARTICULARLY THOSE PATIENTS WHO NEED A C-PAP OR BI-PAP, UH, THIS VENTILATOR ALLOWS FOR, UH, THAT TYPE OF, UH, UH, VENTILATION.

THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING WITH CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

UH, OF COURSE, UH, OVER THE LAST YEAR, WE DID A LOT WITH VACCINATIONS, UH, THE VACCINATION CLINICS THAT WE DID AT CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL AND AROUND THE COUNTY,

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UH, WE WERE ABLE TO RESPOND AND, AND THREE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND GET THAT RAMPED UP WITH THE HELP OF THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND A COMMUNITY AND PRIVATE PARTNERS.

AND I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD THING THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH GETTING SOME OF THOSE FIRST AND SECOND COVID VACCINATIONS DONE.

AND OF COURSE, UH, THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCH, THE EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER, THAT'S OPERATED THERE AT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.

UH, SO IT'S A CENTER THAT WE COUNT ON EVERY DAY.

THE SHERIFF CHRISSY HAD INDICATED HOW BUSY THEY WERE GETTING WITH PHONE CALLS AND SO FORTH AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCH IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, WORKS REALLY WELL.

THAT'S BEEN ONGOING SINCE THE SUMMER OF 2019 AND IT SAVES LIVES AND THEY DO A GREAT, A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.

ONE THING WE NOTICED WAS TRANSPORTS AMBULANCE TRANSPORTS ARE DEFINITELY UP COMPARED TO WHAT THEY WERE.

I KNOW, UM, ALL THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEMBERS HAVE, UH, PAGERS, AND I KNOW MANY OF YOU HAVE COMMENTED ON THE NUMBER OF, OF CALLS THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT ONE THING THAT'S ADDING TO THE TRANSPORT, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL CALLS ARE INCREASING.

WE SAID 22% OR SOME OF THE TRANSPORTS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER TO BE AN INNER FACILITY TRANSPORT OUT OF SOME OF THE FACILITIES IN THE COUNTY, SUCH AS SHELTER AND ARMS AVERAGE IS ABOUT 20 A MONTH AND ON, BUT WE AT THE MEADOWS HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CALL GENERATOR FOR THE, FOR THE COUNTIES, UH, FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT, TACO PINES.

WE'RE STARTING TO SEE, UM, A FEW TRANSPORTS THERE A MONTH.

AND OF COURSE THE VIRGINIA CORRECTIONAL CENTER FOR WOMEN, UH, 25 OR 30 TRANSPORTS A YEAR.

AND SO HAVING SAID THAT, UH, CONGREGATE CARE FACILITIES AND, UH, FACILITIES LIKE, UH, AVERY POINT THAT HAVEN'T OPENED YET, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT WE, UH, WE REALLY HAVE OUR EYE ON AND ARE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND BUILDING THIS BUDGET IS, WAS, WAS KEPT IN MIND.

WE BELIEVE OUR MEMBERS ARE THE CASE, CATER OUR SUCCESS AS AN ORGANIZATION.

WE COULDN'T DO IT.

WE, THE APPARATUS THAT WE HAVE, UH, COULDN'T GO TO CALLS WITHOUT THE PEOPLE.

AND WE ARE FORTUNATE AND BLESSED TO HAVE MEMBERS WHO ARE RECOGNIZED, UH, ALL THE TIME FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO HAVE VOLUNTEER NUMBERS, UH, FOR 2021, UH, WE, WE BROUGHT IN 27 NEW VOLUNTEER MEMBERS, AND THEN SOMETIMES, UM, SOME OF THE MEMBERS WE BRING IN, UH, THEY HELP US SUPPORT FUNCTIONS AND THEY MAY NOT ACTUALLY BE CALLED RUNNING MEMBERS, BUT BY FAR THE MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS WE BRING IN, UH, CERTAINLY DO GO TO FIRE AND EMS CALLS.

AND YOU CAN SEE FROM HERE THAT, UH, HOW THAT'S PROGRESSED OVER THE YEARS, UH, WITH, TO CURRENT TIMES, WELL, CERTAINLY YOU COULD LOOK AT THE SLIDE AND YOU COULD SAY, WELL, THE VOLUNTEER RESCUE DUTY HOURS, UH, HAVE DECREASED A LITTLE BIT.

AND WE'VE TOLD YOU FOR, FOR MANY MONTHS NOW THAT THAT, THAT WAS ALREADY ON A DECLINE.

AND WE ALSO BELIEVE COVID, UH, REALLY HAD AN IMPACT ON THAT.

BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO SAY THAT THE FIRE DUTY HOURS ARE UP A LITTLE BIT.

AND SO THAT'S GOOD.

AND I DON'T THINK YOU REALLY CAN SEPARATE.

SOMETIMES WE DO SEPARATE IT OUT BETWEEN FIRE AND EMS, BUT, UM, MOST OF AG ACTIVITY WITH THE DEPARTMENT IS GENERATED BY SOME TYPE OF EMS NEED.

AND FIRE ENGINES DO GO TO EMS CALLS AND EMT AND PARAMEDICS ARE, ARE ASSIGNED TO FIRE ENGINES.

UH, MOST OF OUR FIRE ENGINES ALSO, UH, EMS LICENSED.

SO I THINK, UM, I THINK ALL OF THAT REPRESENTS, UH, PARTICIPATION IN GENERAL, WE WERE ABLE, UH, WITH YOUR APPROVAL, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO SUBMIT OUR SAFER GRANT, UH, ON TIME, SAFER STANDS FOR STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE.

AND THIS YEAR SAFER GRANT, UH, WAS WRITTEN AROUND VOLUNTEER RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.

AND WE'RE HOPING THAT, UM, IF WE GET FUNDED AND WE SHOULD KNOW SOMETIME BETWEEN AUGUST AND OCTOBER, THAT WE COULD, UH, POTENTIALLY RE RECRUIT ANOTHER, UH, ANOTHER 40 PLUS FIREFIGHTERS, UH, OVER THE, OVER THE LIFE OF THE GRANT, A FOUR YEAR GRANT WOULD FUND MARKETING CAMPAIGNS COVER SOME OF THE EXPENSES THAT GO ALONG WITH BRINGING IN NEW PERSONNEL, INCLUDING TRAINING AND PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT.

AND CERTAINLY WE COULD HIRE A, A VOLUNTEER RECRUITMENT COORDINATOR AND RETENTION COORDINATOR WHO COULD PERSON WHO COULD REALLY GET OUT THERE AND FOCUS SOLELY ON THAT AND BRING, BRING THOSE NUMBERS IN AND GET US BACK WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

SO HERE'S THE MONEY SLIDE.

UM, THIS IS OUR BUDGET, UH, OUR OPERATIONS BUDGET, I HAVE HAD THEIR ENTIRE BUDGET, UH, ON ONE SLIDE FOR YOU.

AND WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE ALL THE FUNDING THAT WE'VE RECEIVED AT THIS POINT TO BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE DO, UH, AND TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ASKING FOR 24.2% INCREASE IN, IN OPERATIONS.

UH, THE OTHER THING I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT OUR GRANTS ARE, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE I EXPLAIN THE GRANTS.

WELL, THERE ARE THREE GRANTS THAT I WOULD CALL ANNUAL OR EVOLVING GRANTS THAT WE ALL TERM AS GRANTS, UH, THAT WE OPERATE WITH THAT, UH, HELP TO AUGMENT OUR BUDGET.

ONE OF THE FIRST ONES IS GOING TO BE ATA ATL, A TWO LOCALITIES, UH, IT'S ABOUT $82,000.

AND HE COMES FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROGRAMS AND IT'S FUNDED BY THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY, UH, HOMEOWNERS, INSURANCE, AND SO FORTH.

AND IT CAN BE USED FOR FIRE SUPPLIES

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AND FIRE EQUIPMENT.

THE OTHER IS A, WE TEND TO CALL IT FOR, FOR LIFE.

IT COMES FROM THE VIRGINIA OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES.

IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, PREDICATED ON VEHICLE REGISTRATION SOLD IN THE JURISDICTION.

AND 26% OF THAT MONEY COMES BACK TO THE LOCALITY AND IT'S ROUGHLY $28,000, UH, THAT COMES TO US.

THEN WE CAN USE THAT FOR EMS, EMS SUPPLIES AND SO FORTH.

THE OTHER IS GOING TO BE LOCAL EMERGENCY PLANNING GRANT.

IT COMES TO US FROM VM.

NOW, THIS IS THE ONLY ONE OF THE THREE THAT ACTUALLY HAS A MATCH ASSOCIATED WITH IT AS ABOUT A $16,000 MATCH.

THAT GRANT IS $33,808, AND IT CAN BE USED FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

YOU CAN USE IT TO PAY MANAGEMENT SALARIES, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SUPPLIES, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO REPORT TO EACH OF THESE AGENCIES ON HOW WE SPENT THE MONEY, UM, THEIR STAFFING, UH, NUMBERS, UH, THIS TIME, UH, MR. ALVAREZ HAD MENTIONED ALREADY THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT, UH, SIX, UH, FULL-TIME POSITIONS, ONE OF THOSE BEING, UH, UPGRADING THE PART-TIME FIRE MARSHALL TO A FULL-TIME FIRE MARSHALL, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT A SLOT OR TWO AHEAD OF US.

AND THEN ALSO A ONE PART-TIME POSITION, WHICH WOULD BE A PART-TIME EMERGENCY MANAGER THAT WE CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GOING FORWARD.

SO EXPLANATION OF CHANGES IN OUR BUDGET, WHAT MAKES UP THAT 24% INCREASE OF COURSE, UH, PERSONNEL COSTS IS, IS ALWAYS, UH, THE MAIN THING THAT DRIVES THOSE COSTS UP, UH, FOUR, FIVE FULL-TIME FIREFIGHTER EMT, LESS.

AND THEN OF COURSE WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SALARIES, FRINGES, UNIFORMS, AND PPE THAT, THAT JETS YOU NEED TO FIGURE IN THE FACTORY AND TO GET TO THAT NUMBER, FIRE MARSHALL POSITION UPGRADE.

UH, WE DO HAVE A PART-TIME FIRE MARSHALL NOW, AND WE'RE WILL REQUEST, UM, RESPECTFULLY THAT THAT POSITION BE UPGRADED TO FULL-TIME TO MEET THE DEMANDS, GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE.

ANOTHER, UM, ANOTHER INCREASE IS GOING TO IS AN INCREASED FIRE AND EMS INSTRUCTION COSTS.

AND WHAT THIS IS IS WITH THE FIRE RESCUE TRAINING CENTER, THE FACILITY IS ONE THING, BUT HAVING THE STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DELIVER THE CLASSES IS ANOTHER.

AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE HAVE FEWER AND FEWER, UH, MEMBERS OR PERSONNEL THAT ARE ABLE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO, TO LEAD THAT INSTRUCTION AT NO COST.

UH, AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME NEW, UH, PROGRAMS LOOKING AHEAD.

IF WE START TO HAVE TO HAVE CAREER VAULT CAREER RECRUIT ACADEMIES, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE TO PAY THOSE INSTRUCTORS TO TEACH THOSE SO THAT FIRE AND EMS INSTRUCTION COSTS IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, IS DEFINITELY, UH, ADDING TO OUR BUDGET EXPENSES FOR THIS, THIS SCORE AROUND.

SO TALKING ABOUT PERSONNEL, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS STRIVE FOR WAS TO HAVE THREE FIREFIGHTERS ON EVERY, A FIRE ENGINE.

WE DON'T, UH, ACHIEVE THAT.

UH, WE, WE TRY REALLY HARD.

WE, WE HAVE PERSONNEL ON DUTY IN THE STATIONS, BOTH CAREER AND VOLUNTEERS.

UH, WE ACTUALLY, UM, WE ACTUALLY WAIT FIVE MINUTES FOR A FIRE IF THERE'S A CREW IN THE STATION AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT THREE MEMBERS THERE, THEN, UH, WE MAY INITIATE A FIVE MINUTE WAIT BEFORE THE FIRE ENGINE RESPONSE TO TRY TO GAIN A VOLUNTEER MEMBER TO, TO MAKE THAT THIRD PERSON, OR MAYBE TO, UH, SOMETIMES WE ACHIEVE THAT IN OTHER TIMES.

UH, WE DON'T, UH, THAT SAME POLICY IT'S BUILT INTO SO THAT IF THERE, IF THERE ARE KNOWN EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, WE MAY ELECT TO GO WITH TWO PEOPLE AND NOT WAIT FOR THE THIRD, BUT ALL OF OUR STAFF AND IS BUILT AROUND TRYING TO WORK UP TO AT LEAST THREE PEOPLE ON DUTY AT ALL TIMES, AND EVENTUALLY FIVE.

SO YOU HAVE INDEPENDENT STAFFING BETWEEN THE AMBULANCES AND THE FIRETRUCKS, AND WE'RE NOT CROSS STAFFING AND MOVING PEOPLE BETWEEN THE UNITS, BUT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE NUMBERS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T REALLY MEASURE A FRACTION OF A PERSON, BUT ABOUT 2.6 PEOPLE PER FIRE ENGINE IS WHERE WE ARE, UH, WITH THAT.

AND WE CONTINUE TO WORK HARD WITH THAT.

AND OBVIOUSLY THE VOLUNTEER RECRUITMENT IMPACTS THAT AS WELL AS THE CAREER STAFF, UH, HIRING.

THIS IS, UM, THIS IS OUR CHART THAT WE SHOW YOU EACH YEAR WHERE WE HAVE OUR OWN MINIMUM STAFFING PLAN.

UM, AS SHIFTS TODAY HAVE, HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE ABOUT 17 PEOPLE ON DUTY A DAY.

BUT I'LL HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT, UH, TODAY WE HAVE TWO VACANT POSITIONS THAT WE NEED TO FILL.

UH, AND THE, YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT PEOPLE, UH, HAVE TO TAKE THEIR, THEIR ANNUAL LEAVE AND THEY TAKE SICK LEAVE.

AND, AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS, WE HAVE ONE FIREFIGHTER THAT'S ON A THREE-YEAR MILITARY DEPLOYMENT.

UH, WE CERTAINLY HOPE AT THE END OF THAT, THAT HE WILL COME BACK TO US.

UH, AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, FROM TIME TO TIME, WE MAY HAVE ONE PERSON OUT ON EXTENDED, UH, WORKER'S COMP OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT ADDING THE, UH, THE FIVE FULL-TIME FIREFIGHTERS, UH, TO, TO THIS YEAR'S BUDGET WOULD HELP US WORK TOWARDS ADDING THAT THIRD FIREFIGHTER TO EACH STATION, UH, SUPPORTING THE MINIMUM ENGINE

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STAFFING LEVEL THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.

UH, IT ALSO WORKS TO, FOR THE CONTINUATION OF REDUCTION OF RESPONSE TIMES THE INCREASED, UH, AVAILABILITY IN GENERAL.

AND IT CERTAINLY DOES, UH, SUPPORT, UH, COVER AND LEAVE.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW, UH, YOU GOTTA SET ASK ABOUT SOME OVERTIME AND SHERIFF CHRISSY'S BUDGET AND, AND WE ALSO HAVE A OVERTIME INCREASE IN OUR BUDGET, WENT FROM ABOUT TWO 30 TO ABOUT 2 87 IS WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED.

AND AS YOU GET MORE PERSONNEL, UH, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO COVER THAT LEAF.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE X AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ON DUTY AND PEOPLE OFF, THEN YOU HAVE TO COVER THAT.

AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT, UH, OUR STAFFING NUMBERS HAVE BEEN VERY CONSERVATIVE TO THIS POINT.

WE'VE ASKED YOU FOR EXACTLY WHAT WE NEEDED AND WE NEVER BUILT IN ANY EXTRA, UM, MOST FIRE BIO CHIEFS WILL TELL YOU, UH, THE LARGER DEPARTMENTS THAT THEY DO, A MULTIPLIER.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY, IF THEY NEED 15 POSITIONS TO OPEN A FIRE STATION, THEY'LL DO A 1.3 MULTIPLIER AND THEY'LL ASK FOR 21.

AND THAT HELPS TO COVER FOR SOME OF THAT TIME FOR FIREFIGHTERS BEING OFF OF THAT MULTITUDE OF REASONS THAT WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED.

SO YOU EITHER PAY A, YOU EITHER PAY IT IN FULL TIME SALARIES, OR YOU EITHER PAY IT IN OVERTIME.

I DON'T WANT TO MISLEAD YOU.

THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THE NEED FOR SOME OF THE OVERTIME TO COVER THINGS THAT COME UP.

UH, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.

I WILL CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO ONE THING ON THIS SLOT.

THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A MOVING TARGET BECAUSE OF THE WEST CREEK FIRE STATION.

AND WE ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE WEST CREEK FIRE STATION AND EXCITED FOR THE CITIZENS OF GOOCHLAND TO HAVE, UM, TO HAVE THAT FIRE STATION AND MORE RESOURCES ON DUTY.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT, UM, 25, WE HAVE 24 PERSONNEL ON THERE.

NOW I WILL TELL YOU THAT 21 OF THE 24 ARE FOR THE WEST CREEK FIRE STATION.

UH, SAME LOGIC THAT IS SHARED 15, 15 PEOPLE FIVE A DAY, DO THE MULTIPLIER, YOU GET 21.

UH, SO THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAD A COUPLE OTHERS THAT WE HAD PLANNED FOR THAT YEAR ANYWAY, UH, TO BRING THE OTHER STATIONS, UH, UP TO SPEED.

NOW, I'LL SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A MOVING TARGET.

I KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE WORKING AS FAST AS WE CAN TO GET THAT BALL ROLLING.

UH, WHETHER THAT, THAT WILL MOVE TO 24 OR WHETHER IT'LL STAY IN 25.

I REALLY CAN'T TELL YOU TODAY.

I SORTA FEEL LIKE IT, IT MAY MOVE, BUT, UH, 25 I THINK COULD ALSO BE A REALISTIC, UH, FOR THAT NUMBER.

SO I'VE MENTIONED A TIME OR TWO THAT THE, UH, FIRE MARSHALL IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY AS A, AS A, PART-TIME A PART-TIME FIRE MARSHALL, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, UH, OUR FIRE MARSHALL, DOUG DAVIES, UH, DOES THE WORK OF A FULL-TIME FIRE MARSHALL.

HE IS ALWAYS OUT THERE AND MOST PEOPLE THINK HE IS.

HE IS FULL TIME.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF, IN BUSINESS INSPECTIONS THAT HE SINGLE-HANDEDLY COMPLETES IN THE COURSE OF A YEAR, AND ALL OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH A FIRE MARSHAL WORK, ONE THING THAT WE ARE NOTICING I CAN TELL YOU IS THE, THE INCREASED GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY AND HOW IT RELATES TO, UH, TO BUSINESS, UH, BUILDING PERMITS AND SO FORTH.

UH, WE HEARD EARLIER AND THAT THE NEW THIS ALREADY THAT 2021 WAS A RECORD YEAR FOR BUILDING PERMITS IN THE COUNTY AND ALL OF THE, UM, ALL OF THE THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT.

SO A LITTLE HISTORY ON GOOCHLAND AND THE FIRE MARSHALL PROGRAM, UH, WE ADOPTED THE STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE IN 2004.

I BELIEVE IT WAS.

AND WE HAD, WE HAD A FULL-TIME FIRE MARSHALL ON DUTY IN THE COUNTY FROM 2004, UP TO 2010.

AND IN TWO, IN THE SUMMER OF 2010, OUR FIRE MARSHALL, A PHILLIP ACAD, HE, HE RETIRED.

AND THAT WAS ABOUT THE SAME TIME.

THERE WAS A BIG ECONOMIC DOWNTURN IN THE COUNTY, AND WE WERE TRYING TO GET OUT OF THAT.

AND WE HAD A HARD TIME FINDING A CANDIDATE THAT WANTED TO BE A FIRE MARSHALL, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE WENT ALMOST TWO YEARS WITHOUT A FIRE MARSHALL.

AND THAT WAS A UNHEARD OF BASED ON WHERE WE HAD COME FROM, BUT WE DID IT.

AND WE ACTUALLY WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HIRE A FIRE.

MARSHALL DAVIES IN 2012, AND DAVIES HAD RETIRED AS A FIRE MARSHALL FROM HENRICO COUNTY AND BOUGHT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SKILL AND EXPERIENCE WITH HIM TO THE POSITION.

AND SO WE'VE GONE FROM, UM, FROM 2012 TO PRESENT WITH THE PART-TIME FIRE MARSHALL, UH, THE STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE IS IN PLACE TO, TO MAKE BUILDINGS SAFE, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR CITIZENS AND VISITORS AND ALL THE FOLKS WHO VISIT THE BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS THE FIREFIGHTERS, GOD FORBID THE BUILDING EVER CAUGHT ON FIRE.

THE BUILDING WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT SAFER BECAUSE OF THE FIRE CODE, UH, BEING ENFORCED, BUT THERE ARE MANY THINGS, UM, THAT TOP THE FIRE MARSHALL'S THIS MORNING, FOR EXAMPLE, BOTH THE FIRE MARSHALL AND I, WE WERE IN MEETINGS AND CHIEF WATKINS COVERED TWO OTHER MEETINGS BECAUSE WE COULDN'T BE AT TWO MEETINGS AT THE SAME TIME ON PLANS REVIEW AND LOOKING AT, UH, BUILDING PLANS FOR THE NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, UH, MEETING WITH, UH, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MEETING.

SO THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THAT, UM, INVESTIGATIONS, UH, FIREWORKS, PERMITS, BURN, PERMITS, ALL

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OF THESE THINGS ADD UP TO, TO RE TAKE A LOT OF THE FIRE MARSHALL'S TIME, THE COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION PIECE OF IT, MAKING THEIR COMMUNITY A SAFER PLACE IS REALLY BUILT AROUND, UH, THREE E'S EDUCATION ENGINEERING AND ENFORCEMENT.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL WITH THE FIRE MARSHALL'S OFFICE, UH, ACTUALLY DOES MAKING THINGS A LOT SAFER IN THE COUNTY AND ALSO WILL PUT A PLUG INTO OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL MR. GARY FISHER, WHO IS, WHO IS ALSO A TREMENDOUS RESOURCE, UH, KNOWING THE VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE AND BUILDING CODE HELPS US ALL THE TIME WITH THAT TRANSITIONING TO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

I KNOW, YOU KNOW, THAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN BUSY IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY.

UH, THE COVID, UH, REALLY STARTED THAT WE'VE SEEN ONE OF ABOUT EVERY TYPE OF EMERGENCY.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY EVERY TYPE BECAUSE THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS AND WE DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYTHING ELSE, BUT WE'VE HAD EVERYTHING FROM, UM, CIVIL UNREST TO 20 YEAR FLOODS TO HURRICANES THAT ALMOST CAME HERE, THAT WE WERE READY FOR THUNDERSTORM EVENTS.

UH COVID UH, AND IT GOES, IT GOES ON AND ON.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'VE DONE A LOT WITH EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IN THE COUNTY.

WE'VE DONE A WHOLE LOT WITH IT, WITH THE NEW ADOPTION A YEAR AGO OF THE NEW EMERGENCY OPERATIONS PLAN.

UH, THE COOP PLAN IS READY FOR REVIEW AND ALMOST READY TO GO OUT.

UM, BUT IF, IF WE HAD MORE HOURS IN THE DAY, WE COULD DO MORE, WE COULD DO MORE POSSIBLY.

AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF PLANS THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT BUILDING.

UH, I KNOW THE SCHOOLS COULD BENEFIT FROM IT AS WELL.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, ON THE HEELS OF JUST HAVING A, UH, A SNOW STORM THAT IMPACTED US IN A WAY THAT WE NEVER GUESSED, UH, AS A PART-TIME EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT POSITION.

I CERTAINLY WANT TO SAY THAT, UH, THIS IS NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM ROBIN HILLMANN, OUR VOLUNTEER EMERGENCY DEPUTY COORDINATOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, WHO DOES A FABULOUS, FANTASTIC JOB.

AND I GIVE HER A LOT OF THE CREDIT FOR LEADING US AND HER LEADERSHIP AND TAKING US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY TO BE ABLE TO, TO ASK FOR THIS POSITION.

SO I HOPE YOU WILL, UH, HOPE YOU WILL.

WE'LL GIVE STRONG CONSIDERATION TO, TO POSSIBLY, UH, FUNDING THE POSITION, UH, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, ENCOURAGES, UH, JURISDICTIONS TO HAVE SOMEONE IN A POSITION LIKE THIS.

AND THEN WE'VE ALSO SEEN SOME OF THE ASSOCIATIONS THAT DO EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ALSO PROMOTE THE SAME THING.

UH, BUT I THINK THIS COULD, WE COULD REALLY DO A LOT MORE FOR OUR CITIZENS, UH, WHO DO NEED THIS TYPE OF SUPPORT, UH, AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS A FAR MORE THAN JUST REACTIONARY AS PREVENTION, PROTECTION, MITIGATION, RESPONSE, AND RECOVERY.

SO MORE EXPLANATION OF CHANGES, UH, TO THIS POINT, UH, YOU ALL HAVE GRACIOUSLY FUNDED, UH, A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT AND APPARATUS.

AND WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME OF THOSE IN THIS BUDGET.

ALSO, THERE ALWAYS WILL BE SOME OF THAT, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THINK THAT WE NEED TO GROW GOING FORWARD IS THE, IS THE HUMAN PART OF OUR OPERATION.

UH, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WE OFFER, SOME SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE, UH, IN THE DEPARTMENT.

ONE THING I'LL TELL YOU IS THAT, UM, FIRE RESCUE ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT CHANGED A LOT IN THE PAST, UH, 15 YEARS.

UH, WE HAVE, UM, WE'VE HAD ADDED A POSITION HERE AND THEIR BATTALION CHIEF, WHO, WHO LOOKS AFTER THE CAREER STAFF AND THE STAFFING HAS THOSE NUMBERS HAVE GROWN.

AND WE JUST PUT UP A POINTED OF A TRAINING, UH, CAPTAIN THAT MANAGES THE TRAINING DIVISION.

BUT AS FAR AS ALL THE OTHER SUP SUPPORT WE HAVE IN FIRE RESCUE ADMIN, IT'S BEEN RELATIVELY CONSTANT.

AND AS OUR WORKFORCE HAS GROWN, IT REQUIRES MORE SUPPORT FROM FIRE RESCUE ADMINISTRATION IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THE FIELD.

AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN THIS BUDGET, UH, REPRESENTING SOME OF THE CHANGES, A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER RESPIRATORY CLEARANCE PROGRAM, WELL, THE VOLUNTEER MEMBERS WOULD, WOULD GO A MEDICAL ASSESSMENT IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE.

AND TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE SAFE AND HEALTHY, TO BE ABLE TO WEAR A RESPIRATOR, SOMETHING THAT WE DO NOT HAVE IN ITS FULLEST EXTENT, UH, TODAY THE LEXIPOLE, UH, FIRE RESCUE POLICY DEVELOPMENT IS AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS KNOWN FOR, UH, REALLY HELPING DEPARTMENTS, UH, GET THEIR HANDS AROUND THEIR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

WE HAVE MANY POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT NEED TO BE OVERHAUL THAT NEEDED TO BE BROUGHT UP.

UH, AND ALSO THE LEXIPOL GROUP IS A GROUP THAT, UH, SPECIALIZES IN RISK MANAGEMENT AND THEY ACTUALLY, THEIR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE ARE ALSO LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE.

AND THEY, UH, COMPLY WITH STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS AND ALLOW US TO, UH, OPERATE IN THE MODERN WAY FIRE RESCUE, MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE, UM, WE ACTUALLY, UH, GOING TO BE WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT, UH, HERE IN APRIL TO START OUR ISO

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REVIEW PROCESS.

AND THE SAME CONSULTANT GROUP CAN EXPAND ON THAT SOMEONE WHO CAN COME IN THE COUNTY, UH, THAT'S ALSO HAS AN IN-DEPTH KNOWLEDGE IN FIRE AND EMS AND TAKE A LOOK AT OUR OPERATION AREA OPERATION AND ITS ENTIRETY AND MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND WE THINK THAT WOULD BE MONEY WELL SPENT TO GET THAT, UH, THIRD PARTY OBJECTIVE, UH, LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY.

AND, AND CERTAINLY, UH, AS, AS LOCAL, UH, FIRE CHIEFS AND LEADERS OF THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT, WE KNOW OUR JURISDICTION BEST, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, WE ALL NEED TO OPEN TO NEW WAYS OF DOING BUSINESS.

AND, UH, UH, A FRESH EYES COULD POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, GIVE US SOME, SOME DIFFERENT INSIGHT ON A FEW THINGS.

AND WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT ANNUAL FIREHOSE, UH, TESTING, UH, CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE, UM, HAD SOME BAD LUCK WITH IN THE PAST, SOME OF OUR FIRE HOSE IN THE PAST, WHILE WE'VE BEEN TESTING IT, WE ALL KNOW WE'VE HAD AT LEAST TWO, TWO INJURIES TO TWO OF OUR CAREER STAFF THAT RESULTED IN A LENGTHY WORKERS' COMP CLAIMS THAT ENDED UP, UH, BOTH CASES.

UH INDIVIDUALS HAD TO HAVE SURGERY.

AND SO WHEN YOU GET ALL THE HOSE STRETCHED ACROSS THE PARKING LOT AND NEVER FAILS ALL THE EMS CALLS START COMING IN ACROSS THE COUNTY.

AND WE GET TO THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE TESTING THE FIRE HOSE AS IS RUNNING THE CALLS.

AND SO THEY'RE GONE AND NOW THE FIRE ENGINES DON'T HAVE ANY HOSE ON THEM BECAUSE IT'S ALL LAYING IN THE PARKING LOT.

SO WE FIGURED OUT BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF SOME OTHER FIRE CHIEFS THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY, UH, BRING, UH, BRING A VENDOR AND THEY HELP US WITH SOME OF THAT AND HOPEFULLY ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT RISK ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST WITH A HOSE TESTING.

WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ORGANIZATION THAT'S HAD INJURIES ON DUTY INJURIES RELATIVE TO HOSE TESTING.

UH, THERE ARE OTHERS IN THE REGION HAVE TO SAME THING WITH OUR SCBA.

SELF-CONTAINED BREATHING APPARATUS, FLOW TESTING.

YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY IS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE, HAVE THAT FRESH AIR COME IN AND LOOK AT THAT.

WE CERTAINLY LOGISTICS TECHNICIAN HAS THOSE SKILLS AND CERTAINLY DOES A LOT OF THAT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, TOO, TO BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR BREATHING APPARATUS IN GOOD CONDITION, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UM, BRINGING SOMEONE IN ALLOWS THAT PROCESS TO MOVE ALONG AS WELL.

SOME OF THANKS FOR OUR VEHICLES, UH, THE OPTICOM, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT VEHICLE EXHAUST CAPTURE SYSTEM FOR THE AMBULANCES AND BACK DOWN TO THE FIRE MARSHALL, UH, PROGRAM AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT MORE ON COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION.

WE'D LIKE TO DO MORE FORMALIZED FIRE SAFETY EDUCATION.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, COULD WE POSSIBLY GET A CHILDREN'S FIRE SAFETY TRAILER AS WELL AS, UH, HOSTING A FIRE SHOW, UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO SHOWCASE THE DEPARTMENT COULD BE A RECRUITMENT TOOL AND ALSO GET OUT THAT COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION MESSAGE HER CIP.

I KNOW MR. LUMPKIN SAID ASK ABOUT THE CIP AND I THOUGHT MAYBE THIS SLIDE, MR. LUMPKINS MIGHT BE THE ONE THAT WOULD ANSWER THE FIRE RESCUE QUESTIONS.

YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT'S IN THE CIP FOR BEING PROPOSED FOR FY 23, UH, EMERGENCY VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, A LADDER TRUCK REPLACEMENT, TURNOUT GEAR, A FIRE SUPPRESSION EQUIPMENT FOR THE NEW VEHICLES AND NEW TANKER, UH, FIRE RESCUE TRAINING CENTER MONEY AS WELL AS THE WEST CREEK FIRE STATION.

UH, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR THE REBUILD, A FIRE STATION TO THEIR ENCLOSURE, NOT DISTRICT TWO BUT COMPANY TO ENCLOSURE.

UH, BUT DISTRICT TWO IS ON MY MIND SO THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT ANYTIME YOU GUYS WANT TO LOOKING AT, UH, THE BIG, SOME OF THE BIG PROJECTS AND ONE THAT YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN A LITTLE BIT, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A NEW LADDER TRUCK, UH, THIS, THIS PAST YEAR, UH, FOR THE EAST EASTERN END OF THE COUNTY.

BUT WHAT OUR PLAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO OPERATE WITH, UH, WITH TWO LADDER TRUCKS AND ONE, UH, AUGMENTS AND SUPPORTS THE OTHER AND A LADDER TRUCK ACCOMPANY COMPANY FIVE IS ONE THAT WE'VE HAD FOR 29 YEARS.

IT'S A, IT'S A 1993 PAIRS.

IT'S 105 FOOT.

WE REFER TO IT AS A STRAIGHT STICK, CAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE A BASKET OR PLATFORM ON IT.

UH, BUT IT'S AT IT'S AT THE POINT WHERE IT WAS, HAD THE SERVICE FOR 121 DAYS LAST YEAR.

AND THERE'S, THOSE WERE THE DAYS THAT WE, WE HAD QUICK RECORDS TO, TO SUPPORT, BUT IT WAS OUT OF SERVICE PROBABLY MORE THAN THAT, HONESTLY, FOR THE PIECES OF A DAY HERE AND THERE FOR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON.

SO THE MAINTENANCE COSTS ON THIS PARTICULAR UNIT ARE STARTING TO RISE AND WE HAD TO, IT WENT THROUGH TWO TRANSMISSIONS AND JUST ABOUT, UM, 18 MOS AND TRANSMISSIONS FOR A TRUCK THIS SIZE ARE NOT, NOT INEXPENSIVE BY ANY MEANS.

THE OTHER THING I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT A TRUCK, 6 0 5 IS WHEN WE ONLY HAD ONE LADDER TRUCK.

IT WAS IN THE CENTER OF THE COUNTY AND THERE'S A THERE'S THINGS ARE, AS YOU KNOW, THAT THINGS ALREADY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTY THAT REQUIRE A LADDER TRUCK.

UH, MANY OF THE HOUSES THAT YOU SEE HERE ARE TWO AND THREE STORY HOUSES, THE CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES, THE NURSING HOME.

IT GOES ALL OF THESE, THE BUILDINGS THAT, UH, THAT ARE ALREADY HERE AT COMMUNITY COLLEGE, THE SCHOOLS.

AND THEN WE TALK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A

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COURTHOUSE COMPLEX AS WELL AS, UM, A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

UH, AND, AND THEN THERE ARE CERTAIN CALLS IN THE EAST END OF THE COUNTY THAT WE WOULD WANT TO RUN TWO LADDER TRUCKS ON AN APARTMENT FIRE, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD REQUIRE TWO LADDER TRUCKS BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE OR, UH, THERE'S HIGHLIGHTS, SAFETY BUILDINGS WERE REQUIRED TO LADDER TRUCKS, THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON THERE IN AVERY POINT TAKE A REPLACEMENT.

UM, OUR TANKERS ARE 20 YEARS OLD.

WE'D LIKE TO REPLACE TANKER 6 66 THIS YEAR, UH, AT COMPANY SIX WITH THE NEW MODERN TANKER THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE AT THE BOTTOM.

THE PINKER AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE IS OUR NEW TANKER THAT WE PUT AT COMPANY FIVE.

HE CARRIES A LITTLE MORE WATER.

IT'S A TANDEM AXLE TRUCK.

IT HANDLES THE WEIGHT DISTRIBUTION A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

THE BREAKS ARE BETTER.

IT'S A LITTLE SAFER VEHICLE, UH, WHEN YOU HAVE THE BETTER BRAKES.

AND ALSO YOU NOTICE THAT IT'S NOT THE ELLIPTICAL STYLE TANKER THAT WE BOUGHT AND THERE'S EARLIER YEARS AND ALLOWS US TO CARRY OTHER TYPES OF FIRE EQUIPMENT ON THE TRUCK, A LITTLE MORE VERSATILE IN WHAT IT CAN BE USED FOR.

SO YOU NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE RIGHT THERE AS YOU KNOW, ONE UNIT IS CARRYING A LADDER AND THE OTHER UNIT IS NOT.

SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET, UH, A TANKER ON ORDER AS WELL.

ONE THING THAT WE'RE BEING TOLD WITH A FIRE APPARATUS RIGHT NOW, IT'S TAKEN 24 MONTHS TO RECEIVE A PIECE OF FIRE APPARATUS FROM THE DAY YOU PLACED THE ORDER.

DON'T EXPECT TO SEE IT UNTIL ALMOST TWO YEARS.

UH, JUST FOR THE REASONS THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW WITH SUPPLY CHAIN AND THE WAY THINGS ARE BACKED UP.

THE HENLEY FIRE RESCUE TRAINING CENTER IS IN A CIP.

I KNOW YOU, UH, KNOW A LOT ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT IT, OPEN YOU IN 1981, IT'S BEEN USED EXTENSIVELY AND CHIEF WATKINS, AND NOW ARE GOING TO GO TO THE STATE FIRE BOARD MEETING ON THURSDAY, IMAGING THE BEACH, AND REPRESENT A GRANT THAT WE'VE PUT IN, UH, HOPING TO GET SOME MONEY THAT CAN HELP WITH, UH, THE BURN BUILDING REPLACEMENT ON AN ADD ON TO THE BURN, BUILDING MORE TO COME ON THAT THE MODULAR CLASSROOMS THEY'RE STILL THERE.

WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY MOVE ON THOSE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MR. ALVAREZ, TRYING TO MAKE SURE THE INVESTMENT WE MAKE.

THERE IS AN INVESTMENT THAT'S GOING TO CARRY ON FOR MANY YEARS, UH, WHETHER IT'S OUR DEPARTMENT USING THAT PROPERTY OR ANOTHER COUNTY DEPARTMENT.

UH, BUT WE DO DO NEED TO LOOK AT IMPROVING THE CLASSROOM SITE, OUR ASSOCIATION, UH, IT MAKES A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTION TO, TO OUR OPERATION.

IT'S ANOTHER FINANCIAL ARM OF THE, OF THE, THE BUDGET, I GUESS YOU'D SAY, OR, OR THE ITS OWN BUDGET.

UH, THE VOLUNTEER MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE MONEY THAT THEY CAN RAISE IN DONATIONS.

AND THEY'VE JUST ACTUALLY HIRED A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

MR. MARTIN DEAN IS WORKING HARD.

AND ONE OF, UH, ONE OF THE BIG INITIATIVES THAT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS LOOKING AT IS ISTATION IMPROVEMENTS.

FIVE OF THE SIX FIRE STATIONS ARE OWNED BY THE VOLUNTEER ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED, AND ALL ARE IN NEED OF SOME TYPE OF REPAIR UPGRADE RENOVATION OR ADDITION, OR POSSIBLY COMPLETE REPLACEMENT.

AND MAYBE IN ONE CASE.

AND SO I KNOW, UH, MR. DEAN IS WORKING HARD ON THAT, TRYING TO GET HIS HANDS AROUND THAT WITH THE CAPITAL THAT THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH TODAY.

AND I KNOW ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT WAS COMPLETED OVER THE LAST YEAR THAT WE ALL SEE EVERY DAY IS THE PARKING LOT THERE, ACCOMPANY FIVE.

AND ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT-HAND CORNER OF THE SLIDE IS AN INTERIOR RENOVATION PLAN FOR FIRE STATION ONE IN MANNEQUIN.

UH, THAT'S UH, PROBABLY PROBABLY GOING TO GO RELATIVELY SOON.

THE PROJECT THAT I THINK MIGHT GO FIRST WOULD BE WIDENING THE BAY DOORS AT FIRE STATION FOUR AND FIVE, UH, BUT MORE, WOULD IT BE MORE TO BE KNOWN ABOUT THAT? AND I KNOW AT SOME POINT, UH, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILL WANT TO COME AND ADDRESS THE BOARD AND MAYBE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS SSOCIATION STILL OWNS A APPARATUS.

AND AS I'VE TOLD YOU BEFORE, WE WERE ABLE TO DONATE SOME APPARATUS THIS PAST YEAR, AS WELL AS THE COUNTY DID ALSO TO CHARLES CITY COUNTY.

AND WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO REALIGN APPARATUS BETWEEN STATIONS, WHICH, UH, KEEPS THAT INVESTMENT, UH, MADE, UH, PAYING FORWARD A RESCUE TRUCK WAS TRANSFERRED FROM, FROM MANNEQUIN TO HAYDENVILLE AND A SMALL RESCUE TRUCK FROM HAYNESVILLE WENT TO CROZIER.

SO ALL, ALL OF THOSE ARE GOOD THINGS TO KEEP, UH, KEEP OUR BUDGET COSTS LOW.

THE DEPARTMENT, UH, IS ENGAGED IN STATE AND REGIONAL GROUPS, AND WE WORK WITH STAKEHOLDERS ON A REGULAR BASIS.

UH, THESE, UH, THESE STAKEHOLDERS ALSO HELP US.

THEY BRING, THEY BRING RESOURCES, UH, TO OUR DEPARTMENT, AND WE'RE PROUD OF ALL OF ALL OF THOSE CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES.

LOOKING AHEAD, UH, COST THE, THE GROWTH AND DEMANDS THAT ARE PLACED ON US FROM THE COMMUNITY.

UH, WE EXPECT INCREASED FIRE MARSHAL DUTIES.

UH, WE PROBABLY GONNA NEED MORE STAFF POSITIONS PROBABLY IS NOT THE WORD.

WE ARE GOING TO NEED MORE STAFF POSITIONS TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THE FIELD.

WE'VE PROBABLY, WE NEED TO EXPAND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT

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BECAUSE OF THOSE DUTIES THAT ARE FORTHCOMING, UH, EXISTING FIRE STATION FACILITIES AND IMPROVEMENTS LOCATIONS FOR NEW FIRE STATIONS.

MR. ALVAREZ MENTIONED, UH, FOR THOSE IN THE BUDGET.

AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE SIX THAT, THAT WE KNOW OF.

WE HAVE THE WEST CREEK, WE ALSO HAVE DISTRICT TWO IN SANDY HOOK.

UH, WE HAVE THE CROZIER, UH, RELOCATION AND REBUILD.

IT DOES NOT A NEW, NOT SO NEW LOCATION WHEN NOT A NEW FIRE STATION.

UH, THERE'S A MATTHEWS ROAD FIRE STATION IN THE CIP.

UH, THERE IS A ONE IN OILVILLE AND THERE'S ANOTHER IN ROCK CASTLE.

NOW, KEEP IN MIND.

SOME OF THE LAST TWO I MENTIONED ARE LIKE FOR 42, IT'S A LONG, LONG TIME FROM NOW, BUT WE HAVE A 25 YEAR CIP.

SO IT ALL, IT ALL COUNTS RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION IS A, IT'S GOT TO STAY IN OUR FOREFRONT, UH, OUR APPARATUS FLEET MANAGEMENT.

AND THEN OF COURSE THERE ARE FIRE RESCUE TRAINING CENTER LAST ON THE SLIDE, BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST.

AND WITH THAT, UM, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND WE HAVE OUR STAFF HERE CAN ALSO, UH, HELP US WITH THOSE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF FERGUSON FOR A GREAT PRESENTATION.

AND I WILL TURN OVER TO THE BOARD THIS LAST CLASS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE ALL THE, ALL THAT YOU DO.

UM, SO I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE ASSOCIATION INVESTMENTS.

UH, THAT'S YOUR SLIDE? 31.

MA'AM.

UM, WHY IS THE ASSOCIATION INVESTING IN ANYTHING ACCOMPANY SIX? WELL, UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SO THE WAY THAT WORKS AT COMPANY SIX, UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE BUILDING AND ANYTHING THAT'S A THERE WITH THE PROPERTY OR THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY, UM, ACTUALLY HANDLED BY THE GENERAL SERVICES BUDGET.

OF COURSE THE FIRE RESCUE BUDGET TOUCHES IT, UH, TO SOME DEGREE AS WELL, BUT OUR VOLUNTEER MEMBERS AT COMPANY SIX, UH, THEY MAY INVEST IN, UH, EQUIPMENT RECENTLY WHEN WE TRANSFERRED THE RESCUE TRUCK TO COMPANY SIX AND THEY TRANSFERRED ONE TO COMPANY TWO.

THEN THERE WERE SOME EQUIPMENT THAT THEY WANTED TO, UH, THEY STILL FUNDRAISE.

THEY STILL HAVE FUNDRAISERS.

THEY STILL HAVE, THEY STILL HAVE A TREASURER.

AND WHILE THEY DON'T HAVE THE BUILDING EXPENSES, UM, THEY'VE INVESTED IN SOME EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT FOR THAT TRUCK.

UM, THEY COMPANY SIX VOLUNTEERS, UH, HAVE ALSO PROVIDED SOME FURNISHINGS FOR THE BUILDING.

SOME THINGS THAT, UM, MAY BE AMENITIES THAT MAY BE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE COUNTY, UH, BUDGET MAY PROVIDE, UH, SUCH AS SOME OF THE, UH, THE DAY ROOM FURNITURE, THE RECLINER CHAIRS AS AN EXAMPLE.

UH, SO THE VOLUNTEER MEMBERS AT COMPANY SIX BEING THE ASSOCIATION, THEY STILL, UH, SEPT DONATIONS.

THEY STILL FUNDRAISE AND THEY JUST, THEIR MONEY IS ACTUALLY FOCUSED ON THINGS OTHER THAN THE BUILDING ITSELF.

BUT YOU ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT EQUIPMENT.

SOMETIMES THEY DO BUY EQUIPMENT ABOVE AND BEYOND MAYBE WHAT WE WOULD BUY JUST TO COOK, JUST TO SHARE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

THE PROPERTY, THAT BUILDING COULD CONTINUE TO BE USED BY GENERAL SERVICES.

THAT'D BE FINE.

NO PROBLEM AT ALL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AWESOME.

SURE.

BUILDING, YOU MENTIONED THE BURN BURN BUILDING.

UM, ARE YOU LOOKING TO REBUILD THAT IN THE CURRENT LOCATION? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I KNOW AT ONE TIME WE'LL TALK ABOUT MOVING IT, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN THE TRAINING AND YOU WANT TO DO IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION, UH, AS FIRE CHIEF AT THE TRAINING CENTER, BE RELOCATED TO A, A NEW LOCATION.

UM, HOWEVER, GETTING TO THE POINT TO DO THAT, UH, AND HAVING SOMETHING TO WORK WITH, UH, WHILE WE'RE IN THAT TRANSITION PHASE, UH, WE HAVE HAD TO MAKE SOME REPAIRS TO THE EXISTING BUILDING.

SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS WHATEVER INVESTMENT WE MAKE THERE ON THE MAIDEN DROVE PROPERTY, UH, WE WANT IT TO BE MODULAR AND MOVEABLE TO THE NEW LOCATION.

SO THE BURN BUILDING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THAT WE HAVE THE GRANT AND FOR THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO REPRESENT IS ACTUALLY A, UH, A BOX STYLE CONEX BOX STYLE WHERE A CONEX BOXES ARE STACKED OR PUT SIDE BY SIDE.

AND THEY'RE, UH, OUTFITTED WITH CLASS B PROPANE TYPE, A LOT OF FIRE BURN PROPS, UH, AND THEY COULD ACTUALLY, UH, UH, JOIN THE OLD CINDER-BLOCK BUILDING.

AND SO IT WOULD BE RELATIVELY CLOSE.

AND THEN IF, AND WHEN WE, IF WE DECIDE, UH, THAT WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY THAT WE COULD MOVE THE FIRE TRAINING CENTER TO, THEN THAT INVESTMENT COULD BE SIMPLY RELOCATED TO THE NEXT LOCATION.

UH, SO WE'RE VERY, UM, FINANCIAL MINDEDNESS, I GUESS YOU'D SAY MINDFUL OF, OF NOT MAKING ANY INVESTMENT THERE ON THE MAIDENS ROAD PROPERTY THAT ISN'T GOING TO CARRY FORWARD.

FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT WHAT IF GENERAL SERVICES, UH, WOULD TAKE THAT LOCATION FOR FUTURE YEARS.

SO IF WE BUILT A WAREHOUSE STYLE BUILDING AND MAYBE HAD CLASSROOMS INSIDE OF IT, AS WELL AS A PLACE WHERE LOGISTICS SUPPLIES, THAT IF, IF, AND WHEN WE VACATE

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UH, SO WHATEVER WE DO THAT, UH, MAIDENS ROAD, UH, W AS IN OUR EYES IS, IS TEMPORARY AND, UH, LOOKING FOR THE NEW LOCATION.

AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, MR. ALVAREZ AND, AND, AND THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION, YOU KNOW, W WHY WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE FOR THE TRAINING CENTER TO GO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT OPPORTUNITIES EXIST AT THE RENTALS COMMUNITY COLLEGE, BUT CERTAINLY IT'S AN IDEAL LOCATION, AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF PROPERTY, UH, AND IT WOULD BE AN INVESTMENT THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY, AND IT WOULD BE AN EDUCATION ACADEMIC TYPE INVESTMENT.

SO THAT'S A, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPEFUL FOR, OR SOME OTHER LOCATION.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS, OR, AND WE'VE EVEN LOOKED AT, UH, WHAT IF WE COULD BUY A PIECE OF LAND AND THE QUESTION COMES UP HOW MUCH LAND AND FROM WHAT WE'VE, UM, WHAT WE'VE LEARNED, TRYING TO PREPARE FOR THE FUTURE AND MAKING IT A PUBLIC SAFETY TRAINING CENTER, BECAUSE I KNOW THE SHERIFF HAS SOME INTEREST IN DOING THAT AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT NEED, UH, IN FUTURE YEARS WHEN IT'S COMPLETELY BUILT OUT, WE MIGHT NEED 25 ACRES AS WHAT WE MAY NEED.

IT WOULD BE BETTER IF THAT PROPERTY ALSO HAD WATER ON IT, JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE TYPE OF TRAINING THAT WE'RE DOING.

UM, ONCE COMPLETE SAYING THE POINT IS COMPLETE, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA BASED UPON THE SIZE AND NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, WHAT YOUR CALL VOLUME IS GOING TO BE UP THERE? WOW, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UM, SO OUR FIGURES THAT WE, SO, SO WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WHEN, AND WHAT'S, THIS COMPLETE IS GOING TO BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND 16 BUILDINGS, UH, BUILD, BUILD OUT.

AND SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS HAVE FAIRLY FAR ALONG, UH, THEIR MULTI-STORY BUILDINGS.

UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR NUMBERS FOR THE EAST AND THE COUNTY WITH ALL OF THE, THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED, AND WHAT'S BEEN BUILT RECENTLY, WE ESTIMATED THAT, UH, OUR ENTIRE CALL VOLUME IN THE EASTERN THE COUNTY COULD BE INCREASED BY AS MANY AS A THOUSAND CALLS, WHICH YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS ASSISTED LIVING A YEAR, RIGHT.

AND IN A YEAR, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND THAT'S TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT READER'S BRANCH, MOSAIC, UH, TACO PONS, UH, AVERY POINT, ALL OF THE, ALL OF THE, UH, GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HAD HAD ON LIST.

THE THING I'LL TELL YOU IS THERE'S SOME, SOME BEST LOGIC OR BEST PRACTICE AS FAR AS FORECASTING.

SOME OF THAT, UH, ASSISTED LIVING BEDS, UH, TYPICALLY MAY GENERATE, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE CALL A YEAR FOR EVERY THREE OF THOSE.

AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SKILLED NURSING BEDS, IT'S AT LEAST ONE, ONE CALL A YEAR FOR EVERY SKILLED NURSING BED.

AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THERE AT SHELTER AND ARMS NOT TO CALL THEM OUT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THEY WANT OUR SLOTS.

AND WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE SHELTERING ARMS INSTITUTE IN GOOCHLAND, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE AVERAGING ABOUT 20 CALLS A MONTH THERE, AND SOME MONTHS ARE MORE THAN SOMETIMES THE AVERAGE.

IT WILL BE FEAR, BUT I CAN GET YOU THAT BECAUSE WHAT WE DO IS WE, UM, WE TAKE THE TOTAL NUMBER OF POPULATION AND WE USE A PER CAPITA BASED ON THE CURRENT CALL VOLUME AND THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, UH, IN THE COUNTY PERSONALLY.

AND WE DO THAT MATH, AND WE COME UP WITH OUR, UH, OUR BEST, UH, OUR BEST GAS, I GUESS YOU'D SAY, BUT THAT WAS FIGURED INTO THE THOUSAND CALLS A YEAR.

AND THEN W YOU, YOU MENTIONED FOUR, ONE IS THE ISO REVIEW COMING THE ISO.

SO THE ISO WAS COMPLETED IN 2017, AND WE KNOW ISO IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY.

IT'S THE REPORT CARD FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

ISO HAS THREE MAJOR AREAS.

ISO IS, UH, THE MOST POINTS FIRE DEPARTMENT, 55 POINTS FOR YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOUR PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT AND WATER SYSTEMS IS A BIG CHUNK OF THAT AND YOUR EMERGENCY COMMUNICATION CENTER.

SO AROUND ABOUT EVERY FIVE YEARS OR SO WOULD BE THE RIGHT TIME TO DO AN ISO REVIEW.

AND SO THIS IS 2022.

AND SO WE FELT LIKE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO CONDUCT THAT THIS YEAR, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO WAIT FOR ISO TO CALL US IF THEY'RE LISTENING TO THE PRESENTATION, I'D ASK THEM TO GIVE US A, GIVE US A COUPLE OF MONTHS THAT WE HAD HOPED FOR.

AND SO INSTEAD, WE'VE, UM, WE'VE HIRED A CONSULTANT WHO ACTUALLY WAS ONCE AN ISO EMPLOYEE, UH, WHO'S GOING TO COME IN AND HE'S GOING TO HELP US, UH, WITH, WITH OUR PACKAGE AND THEIR PRESENTATION.

AND JUST GIVE US SOME IDEA OF WHERE WE ARE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO KICK THAT OFF WITHIN THE COUNTY, GOVERNMENTAL, APRIL THE 12TH.

AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE'RE DOING AND S YOU KNOW, WE JUST BELIEVE WITH, WITH THE BUDGET, THE SIZE THAT WE HAVE AND ALL THE THINGS, AND ALL THE ADVANCEMENTS AND VOLUNTEERS AND CAREER MEMBERS SINCE THE LAST ONE IN 2017 AND THE COMMUNICATION CENTER AND THE NEW RADIO SYSTEM, AND ALL THAT'S BEEN DONE IN WATER SYSTEM AND DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC UTILITIES, WE THINK WE STAND UP A GOOD CHANCE OF, UH, OF MAKE, OF HAVING SOME IMPROVEMENT THERE.

THEY'VE ASKED FOR? SO WE FUNDED THE SIX NEW, UH, PLUS THE FULL FIRE MARSHAL FUNDED.

AND THE LAST, WHAT ARE WE FUNDING

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UH, ONE OF THE SIX DOES INCLUDE THE FIRE MARSHALL EMERGENCY MANAGERS.

PART-TIME IF YOU NOTICE MR. SHARP, THE PART-TIME POSITIONS LOOK FLAT FROM LAST YEAR, THIS YEAR, BECAUSE THE PART THE FIRE MARSHALL WOULD MOVE UP WOULD SHIFT UP.

IF IT'S A, IF AT ALL IS APPROVED, WE'VE APPROVED THE FIRE MARSHALL FUNDING, THE FULL-TIME.

THAT'S WHAT WE'VE REQUESTED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR, I REQUESTED EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS YOU ARE RECOMMENDING YES, SIR.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ALSO WOULD BE FUNDED TO FULL-TIME PART-TIME IS WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET REQUEST.

IT'S PART-TIME EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT RIGHT NOW.

SO IT'S PROPOSED TO PART-TIME, THAT'S WHAT ROBIN'S DOING.

ROBIN ROBIN IS THE WAY THAT WORKS IS MR. ALVAREZ IS THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR THE COUNTY, OR THE FIRE.

CHIEF IS THE, UM, IS THE COORDINATOR.

AND ROBIN HILLMAN IS THE DEPUTY COORDINATOR FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

SO WE ALL ARE WEARING MULTIPLE HATS AND DOING WHAT WE CAN FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, BUT WE THINK WE'VE REACHED A POINT WITH THE NEEDS OF THE CITIZENS AND THE TYPES OF EVENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH, UH, THAT IT NEEDS MORE ATTENTION.

AND I KNOW, UM, AGAIN, NOTHING, UH, ROBIN HELLMAN IS A BLESSING AND SHE DOES AS A VOLUNTEER AND SHE'S, SHE'S ALL BEHIND US TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THAT PROGRESSION TO SERVE OUR CITIZENS.

GREAT.

OKAY, MR. PETERSON, THANKS SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

AND THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL YOU DO, AND ALL YOUR PEOPLE DO, UH, THAT ARE BEHIND YOU ON THIS.

UM, ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE PANDEMIC, WE HEARD THAT SHERIFF HAD TO DUST OFF HIS HEADPHONE AND GET INVOLVED.

I THINK YOU AND THEY'RE FUNDING SOME CALLS AS WELL.

SO THANKS.

YOU STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF OUTSTANDING REPORTS, RIGHT? DEPUTY CHIEF GORDON, YOU DO THE PAPERWORK YET.

UM, GREEN PRESENTATION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME IS THE, UM, KINDA STEP FUNCTION INCREASE WHEN THAT NEW STATION COMES ON AND THE NUMBERS WERE AT 21 FOLKS, WHAT CAN WE DO, I GUESS, TO HELP YOU MANAGE THROUGH THAT PROCESS? WHAT'S THE CHANCES OF JUST BEING ABLE TO GO OUT AND HIRE 21 PEOPLE.

I, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU, AND IT'S A LOT EASIER SAID THAN DONE.

WE ALL KNOW THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU ON THAT.

WELL, SO I THINK, UM, EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR US IN THIS BUDGET AND PRIUS, IT HELPS US, IT BUILDS THE IMAGE OF THE ORGANIZATION AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO AS A DEPARTMENT.

UH, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, WE ARE PLANNING AHEAD, UH, WE'VE INCREASED THOSE INSTRUCTIONAL COSTS BECAUSE WE THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A RECRUIT SCHOOL, A CAREER RECRUIT SCHOOL.

UH, WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBABLY END UP HAVING TO HIRE GOOD PEOPLE WITH GOOD MORAL AND ETHICAL VALUES, AND THEN TRAIN THEM TO BE A FIREFIGHTER EMT.

AND MAYBE SOME WILL GO ON TO BE PARAMEDICS.

AND LATER YEAR, MUCH LIKE MUCH LIKE THE OTHER LARGER DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING IT.

WE, YOU KNOW, UP TO THIS POINT, WE'VE, WE'VE ACTUALLY ADVERTISED FOR PRE-CERTIFIED PERSONNEL AND THAT POOL IS DWINDLING DOWN.

UH, WE'RE GOING TO OPEN OUR HIRING PROCESS AGAIN, UH, HOPEFULLY MARCH 1ST AND WITH OUR SALARY INCREASE, WHICH IS ANOTHER THING THAT REALLY HELPS TO ATTRACT THE TYPE OF CALIBER OF PEOPLE WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'LL SEE NUMBERS GO UP EVEN IN THE PRE-CERTIFIED NUMBERS, THAT ONCE WE OPEN IN MARCH, UM, BUT THE TRAINING CENTER IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A PLACE TO CONDUCT THIS TRAINING.

AND THE TRAINING CENTER IS, IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WOULD HELP US WITH THAT AND CONTINUING TO GROW THE TRAINING DIVISION AND HAVING THE MONEY FOR THE INSTRUCTOR, UH, COSTS AND THAT TYPE OF THING, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS GOING TO BE REALLY HARD TO GET THOSE NUMBERS.

AND WE'RE HERE ON OUR PAYERS AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS, UH, SAY THE SAME THING AND IT'S, THEY JUST DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS APPLY FOR THE JOBS THAT WE USED TO.

UM, IT'S ALL THE ROLLING STOCK EQUIPMENT IN THE CIP AS WELL.

I MEAN, THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS BUILD THEIR BRICK AND MORTAR AND HAVE IT BE EMPTY, NO ONE TO BE THERE.

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT MY, MAYBE A STAFF UP IN ADVANCE, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MOVE THAT LIST.

WE PROBABLY WOULD TRY TO, ONCE WE KNOW THE TIMELINE, WHEN THE STATION IS ACTUALLY GOING TO OPEN, WE WOULD TRY TO DO THAT A YEAR AHEAD OF TIME.

AND IF WE HAD TO PUT SOME OF THE PERSONNEL, IF THEY CAME OUT OF RECRUIT SCHOOL A LITTLE BIT EARLY, AND WE PUT THEM AROUND AT OTHERS, SOME OF THE OTHER STATIONS AND TOTAL THE NEW STATION OPEN, THEN WE COULD MOVE THEM, MOVE THEM TO THE STATIONS.

BUT, BUT AGAIN, UM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MARTIN DEAN IS WORKING HARD BECAUSE SOME OF OUR FACILITIES HAVE LIMITATIONS ON HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU CAN REALLY COMFORTABLY BE THERE FOR 24 HOURS A DAY.

AND SO I KNOW A LOT OF THAT IS A THAT HE'S WORKING ON AND SUPPORT HIM AND HIS EFFORTS AND, AND IT ALL, UH, WOULD ADD UP TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE.

MAYBE ONE FOLLOW ON, UM, THE BRICK AND MORTAR IS PART OF THE EQUATION.

THE PEOPLE, THE 21 PEOPLE ARE PART OF THE EQUATION, THEN THERE'S THE, THE EQUIPMENT.

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UH, SO LOOKING AT, UH, $8.2 MILLION, UH, IN THE CIP SLIDE THAT FOR THE WEST CREEK FIRE STATION, UH, YOU CAN FIGURE BY THE TIME YOU BUY A FIRE ENGINE AT TODAY'S COST, UH, WE HAVE ONE ON THE ORDER.

NOW THAT'S ROUGHLY SEVEN, $750,000 IN EQUIPMENT.

THAT'S A MILLION DOLLARS.

AND WE, UH, CHIEF WATKINS JUST WENT TO OHIO YESTERDAY.

HE FAST TRIP BACK AND FORTH AND INSPECTED THEIR LATEST AMBULANCE COMING OFF THE LINE.

AND THAT EMMA LANCE WAS 291,000 AND CHIEF WATKINS IS TELLING ME THAT HE'S HEARING THAT THERE COULD BE A 40% INCREASE IN AMBULANCE COSTS.

AND SO, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO EQUIP THE AMBULANCE, YOU KNOW, A CARDIAC MONITOR, THE FIBULATOR IS $30,000.

A STRETCHER IS 16.

UH, IT GOES ON AND ON.

SO A COUPLE OF MILLION, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR THE APPARATUS COST AND IN SOME OF THE FURNISHINGS OF THE BUILDING, I PROBABLY GO NEED A TURNOUT GEAR WASHER IN THERE, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THE THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH HAVING A, A FIRE STATION.

BUT I THINK MS HORLOCKER WOULD PROBABLY TELL YOU THAT, UH, WE'VE PLANNED FOR THOSE COSTS IN THE PROJECT.

SO GREAT DEED INTO SORT OF MY QUESTION.

SO ON YOUR, IN YOUR BUDGET, YOU HAVE 20, 23 FOR 493,000 AND CHANGE FOR THE TOTAL SERVICE LEVEL PLAN.

IS THAT, IS THAT THE ISO REVIEW? NO, UH, THIS IS SERVICE LEVEL PLAN IS JUST THE WAY THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT BREAKS IT DOWN IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO.

AND IT POSITIONS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT IT WHEN WE WERE RIDING TOGETHER WAS THAT SOME OF THESE STUDIES THAT WE'RE DOING COULD CHALLENGE SOME OF THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE'VE MADE EITHER FAVORABLY, OR MAYBE WE NEED EVEN MORE, BUT I I'M HOPEFUL THAT THOSE, THOSE STUDIES THAT WE'RE DOING WILL LEND TO SOME INFORMATION ON THAT, IS THAT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT IF WE DO A STUDY, IF WE DO THE MASTER PLAN, UH, IT WILL GIVE US SOME INSIGHT OF EVERYTHING FROM, UH, PERSONNEL TO, UH, LOCATIONS TO APPARATUS.

AND IT GIVES US THAT, UM, THAT LOOK, LOOK AT WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE'RE DOING AND, AND, YOU KNOW, A FRESH SET OF EYES LOOKING AT IT.

AND IT'S NOT UNUSUAL, UH, FOR A TO REQUEST SUCH A THING.

IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT, THAT STARTED AT THE GROUND FLOOR IN OUR DEPARTMENT.

AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO, WE WANT TO LEARN.

WE WANT TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

UM, THE ONE THING THAT CHALLENGES US WITH ANY OF THAT THOUGH, IS THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED.

THAT'S GOING ON.

LIKE RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A DATA.

WAIT FOR ANYTHING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A FIRETRUCK TAKEN TWO YEARS TO BUILD, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE, THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY THINGS THAT WE KNOW THAT WE NEED BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE AND, AND, AND OUR TALENTS AND SKILLS, THE COMMAND STAFF AND THE LEADERSHIP TEAM.

AND SO THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING, UH, IN THIS BUDGET, UH, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE, UH, WOULD, WOULD BE HINGING ON ANYTHING THAT CAME FORWARD IN A MASTER PLAN.

GREAT.

AND THEN JUST ONE COMMENT, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ALWAYS LOOK AT IS THE RESPONSE TIMES, AND THEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE THE APPARATUS STAFFING, AND, YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER OF LIGHT DATA ADD IF FOUR IS YOUR OPTIMAL AND YOU MISS ONE, YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO BE THERE AGAIN.

SO YOU'RE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE, UM, IN TODAY'S WHERE YOU CAN GET, YOU KNOW, A 5.0, TO HELP YOUR, YOUR 4.0, IT MAY BE HELPFUL TO SEE FOR EACH, EACH VEHICLE.

WHAT PERCENTAGE OF TRIPS WENT OUT LESS THAN OPTIMIZED OPTIMALLY STAFFED? SO IF WE WERE SAYING, HEY, OUR ENGINES WENT OUT 50%, NOT OPTIMALLY STAFFED, THAT THAT COULD PAINT A PRETTY INTERESTING, THAT'S A GOOD, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD NUMBER TO LOOK AT A GOOD METRIC TO, UH, TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, IT TAKES, UH, GOING BACK TO WHAT I HAD MENTIONED ABOUT FIRE RESCUE ADMINISTRATION, UH, THE WAY THAT WE'VE, WE HAVE THE POSITIONS WE HAVE, THEY'RE THE SAME POSITIONS WE HAD IN PREVIOUS YEARS.

AND WE ALL, UM, WE ALL BUILD REPORTS AND THE FOLKS BEHIND ME HAVE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD THE LAST FEW DAYS, PULLING ALL THE NUMBERS TOGETHER FOR THE INCENTIVES TO SEND TO THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE SO THAT WE KNOW WHO, WHO MET THE CRITERIA FOR INCENTIVES.

AND WE HAVE A LIEUTENANT, UH, IN THE FIRE STATION WHO DOES HIS FIRE AND EMS DUTIES, WHO IS REALLY GOOD WITH, UH, METRICS AND THE REPORT SOFTWARE AND SO FORTH.

AND SO WHEN WE PULL ALL THESE TOGETHER, UH, IT'S USUALLY A LOT OF US WERE PUT THAT OTHER HAT ON AND RUN THOSE REPORTS FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

AND THEN WE GO BACK TO FIREFIGHTING OR, OR MANAGING AN EMS CALL.

SO YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND THEY WOULD HELP US TO, UH, TO HAVE THAT AND LOOKING AT FUTURE YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE PROBABLY, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SOFTWARES THAT WE HAVE TO GO IN.

IT'S NOT ALL TOGETHER IN ONE SOFTWARE.

AND SOME OF IT IS, UH, IS A HAND COUNT AS WELL.

AND I JUST WANT TO SAY, UH, FOLKS, UH, MEN AND WOMEN OF THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT ARE THE ONES THAT DESERVE THE CREDIT.

THEY DO A GREAT JOB EVERY DAY AND WE COULDN'T DO IT WITHOUT THE SUPPORT FROM HER CITIZENS AND OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

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WOW.

ALL RIGHT, MR. GREEN, WELCOME.

WELCOME.

YOU DIDN'T BRING ANY PUPPIES, HUH? HE MUST KNOW ON HIS BUDGET APPROVED.

I'M TELLING YOU THE MERITS.

I, HERE WE GO.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT OUR BUDGET PROPOSAL FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.

UM, ANIMAL CONTROL IS SPLIT INTO TWO DIFFERENT SECTIONS ONCE THE FIELD SERVICES AND THE OTHERS, THE ANIMAL SHELTER ITSELF, UM, AFTER THE ANIMALS ARE BROUGHT IN, IN THE CARE AND CUSTODY OF THOSE ANIMALS, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, CALLS FOR SERVICE HAVE JUMPED ABOUT A HUNDRED FROM LAST YEAR.

UM, AND WE ANTICIPATE WITH JUST THE GROWTH OF THE COUNTY, THAT'S GOING TO BE A TREND THAT CONTINUES.

UH, ANIMAL INTAKE IS UP ABOUT A HUNDRED ANIMALS THROWN A YEAR PRIOR.

AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN PRINCE GEORGE COUNTY, THAT'S KIND OF ONE OF THOSE.

IF YOU BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME SCENARIOS.

SO WE HAD A NICE FACILITY DOWN THERE THAT WE BUILT, AND THEN WE JUMPED FROM LIKE 800 TO 1200 ANIMALS IN ONE YEAR, JUST AN INTAKE, UH, THE OUTCOMES.

LUCKILY WE HAVE A GREAT RESPONSE FROM THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE ABLE TO PLACE ABOUT 95% OF THE ANIMALS, A LITTLE BIT NORTH OF THAT.

WE ENDED UP WITH ADOPTIONS AND TRANSFERS, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY ARE ADOPTIONS.

UH, VOLUNTEERS.

WE HAVE AN OUTSTANDING VOLUNTEER PROGRAM.

WE HAVE MORE VOLUNTEERS WAITING TO BE TRAINED THAN WE ARE ABLE TO DRINK.

CURRENTLY WE DO THEM IN GROUPS OF LIKE 15 NOW, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY THAT REALLY WANT TO COME IN AND VOLUNTEER TO A NEW DON'T WANT TO DO FIRE RESCUE.

WE CAN ASK THEM, THEY WANT TO GET UP ON A LADDER TRUCK.

WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE INCENTIVES LIKE THAT.

IF WE HAVE TO A VOLUNTEER PARTICIPATION, YOU CAN SAY IT'S BEEN FABULOUS.

I MEAN, THIS WAS FROM ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF AGO, WE HAD ABOUT 390 HOURS IN FEBRUARY.

SO IT SPIKED OVER THE HOLIDAYS.

WE HAD A LITTLE DIP OF COURSE, BUT THAT'S TO BE EXPECTED, UH, GOOCHLAND PET LOVERS, GREAT ORGANIZATION.

PART OF THE REASON WE ARE ABLE TO KEEP COSTS DOWN IS BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT THEY LEND US, ESPECIALLY WITH VETERINARY THINGS AND SUPPLIES.

IF WE NEED THINGS, THEY PUT OUT THE CALL AND ARE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GET US ITEMS. WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD OTHERWISE, OR, UH, BRING IN SPECIALISTS LIKE BEHAVIORAL TRAINING FOR DOGS AND CATS.

SO THEY RAN, REIMBURSE THE COUNTY FOR THAT, WHICH IS AWESOME.

UM, LIKE I SAID, THEY HAVE THE ONSITE DOG TRAINER ON SITE.

KHAFRE HEYVRILL IS A CURRENT DEPARTMENT STAFFING, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE JUST DOWN ONE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER AND ONE PART-TIME SHELTER ATTENDANT.

SO WE HAVE FIVE ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICERS, ONE FULL-TIME SHELTER ATTENDANT AND TWO PART-TIME PEOPLE AND THE BUDGET.

SO BASICALLY WE'RE ASKING FOR, OR PROPOSING, UH, ONE POSITION IN CREASE, WHICH WOULD BE THE SHELTER COORDINATOR ATTENDANT.

UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMEBODY THAT SH THE COORDINATOR POSITION WOULD ALSO ENCOMPASS THE DUTIES OF A KENNEL ATTENDANT THEY'D CLEANING AND DOING ALL THAT, AS WELL AS ASSISTING WITH THE MEDICATING OF ANIMALS, THE, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE WORK.

THERE'S A LOT OF HARD PAPERWORK THAT THE STATE REQUIRES.

WE KEEP ON HAND AND WE ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THAT IN THE SOFTWARE SYSTEM.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF DATA INPUT PLUS ASSISTING CITIZENS WITH ADOPTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S AND THEN JUST THE COST OF VACCINES IS ALMOST DOUBLED, WARMER, ALMOST DOUBLED.

SO THE THINGS THAT WE PAY FOR THAT HEARTWORM AND AIDS LEUKEMIA TESTS FOR CATS AND DOGS THAT HAS GROWN EXPONENTIALLY AS A LOT OF MEDICAL THINGS HAVE.

AND THEN WE ASKED FOR SITE IMPROVEMENT FOR A TWO HORSE LIVESTOCK CORRAL BEHIND THE EXISTING SHELTER.

UH, THE DEEP RUN HUNT CLUB HAD PROVIDED MONEY FOR THAT, I GUESS AT THE BEGINNING, WHEN THE SHELTER WAS BEING BUILT, UM, AND WATER AND ELECTRICITY HAS ALREADY BEEN RUN TO THE SITE WHERE THAT WOULD BE.

AND THAT WOULD BE SIMILAR TO ONE THAT HENRICO COUNTY HAS RIGHT NOW AT THEIR ANIMAL SHELTER AND JUST FUTURE OUTLOOK.

UH, WE WANT TO DO SOME LEADERSHIP TRAINING FOR THE MANAGEMENT STAFF.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER BEEN, UM, NEVER HAPPENED PRIOR, UH, INCREASE THE VOLUNTEER ENGAGEMENT, PARTICIPATION RECOGNITION.

WE'RE HOPING TO DO A VOLUNTEER RECOGNITION DAY IN THE SUMMER.

UH, LOOK FOR WAYS TO PARTNER WITH MORE CIVIC GROUPS IN BUSINESSES, UH, MORE ADOPTION EVENTS PARTNERING WITH THE REC DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE DOING A PILOT PROGRAM, CAT YOGA AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER AT THE END OF MARCH.

UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT.

THEY DO IT IN A LOT OF CAT CAFES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO WE WERE GOING TO GIVE IT A SHOT AND SEE HOW IT WORKED OUT.

UM, RESCUE DOG OLYMPICS WITH GPL AT LICKING HOLE CREEK BREWERY HAVE THREE PEOPLE WHO HAVE ADOPTED ANIMALS FROM SHELTERS, BRING THEM, AND THEY COMPETE IN FUN EVENTS WITH THEIR RESCUE DOG, LIKE KISSES PER MINUTE, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THERE ARE AWARDS AND SUCH GIVEN.

SO THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR MAY 21ST, SATURDAY, MAY 21ST FROM 12 TO TWO.

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I TRIED TO MAKE ANY QUESTIONS, SORRY.

THOSE ARE BUDGET AND MATCH THE REQUEST.

EXCEPT FOR THEY HAD US FOR APO AND ONE SHELTER ATTENDED.

AND WE WENT WITH JUST THE, UM, SORRY.

WE WENT WITH JUST THE SHELTER THEN MY OWN MICROPHONE YOU'LL HEAR THAT THEY REQUEST.

I SAID, YES, SIR.

THEY REQUESTED AN APO AND THE CHILDREN ATTENDED AND WE APPROVED THE SHELTER THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WORK IT IN OUR BUDGET.

UM, ON YOUR, FOR THE ANIMAL OUTCOMES IN THE INTAKE, THE INTAKE NUMBERS, THEY ALSO, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN I, UM, WE SEEM TO BE, LIKE YOU SAID, WHEN YOU BUILD A COMPANY, YOU MOVE THEM, THE PEOPLE WILL GIVE THEM TO YOU.

SO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE'VE TAKEN ANIMALS FROM SURROUNDING SHELTERS.

DO THOSE NUMBERS, ARE THEY INCLUDED? YES.

THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THE INTAKE.

AND FROM AN OUTCOMES PERSPECTIVE OF 95%, I KNOW ABOUT A YEAR AGO THIS TIME, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS FROM SOME FOLKS THAT, UM, A LOT THAT MAYBE MORE ANIMALS WERE BEING TRANSFERRED OUT, AS OPPOSED TO THE CITIZENS GAVE ME A CHANCE TO BE ADOPTED.

HOW DO YOU FEEL THAT'S GOING, UH, THE VAST MAJORITY OF ANIMALS WE HAVE NOW ARE BEING ADOPTED.

IF YOU JUST LOOK, THERE'S A, THE LARGEST BIKE, WE ACTUALLY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF TRANSFERS TO OTHER FACILITIES.

AND WE'VE INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF ADOPTIONS.

THAT NUMBER TWO IS GOING TO BE SKEWED BECAUSE THERE'S CERTAIN ANIMALS WE HAVE TO TRANSFER.

JUST CORRECTING THAT THEY'RE IN, RIGHT? CORRECT.

WELL LIKE THE RICHMOND SPCA, WE HAVE CATS WITH AIDS AND LEUKEMIA AND THEY HAVE A WAITING LIST FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE, HAVE OTHER CATS WITH AIDS AND LEUKEMIA.

SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF CATS WE WOULD TRANSFER TO THE RICHMOND SP JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE ADOPTERS WAITING FOR AN ANIMAL WITHIN POSSIBLY CONTAGIOUS DISEASE.

SURE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE DROPPING OFF PORCHES.

WE HAD EGGS, WE HAD A HOLSTEIN BULL.

WE HAD A HOLSTEIN BULL.

WE HAD A MINIATURE HORSE AND A REGULAR HORSE.

I'M NOT A HORSE EXPERT, BUT, UM, AND WE HAD ALL THREE OF THOSE AT ONE TIME THAT WERE NEEDING TO BE PLACED.

AND NOW WE HAVE A BILLY GOAT AT THE SHELTER.

SO WE PICK UP, I MEAN, WHEN YOU'RE 85% RURAL, YOU'RE GONNA RUN INTO THESE THINGS.

SO WE HAD TO, UH, TAKE AN, A CAMEL JACOB THAT WAS NOT WELL FED.

SO WE HAD A CAMEL.

AND IT'S NOT.

AND YOU CAN, UM, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT, UM, DO PEOPLE BRING HIM ON IN, BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO RESCUE ONE.

THE BEST SITUATION, RIGHT.

THE BOWL.

AND THE TWO HORSES WERE JUST RUNNING LOOSE.

THEY WERE ABLE TO ESCAPE FROM THIS PERSON WHO WASN'T ABLE TO CONTAIN THEM.

SO WE HAD TO TRANSPORT THEM TO A PLACE.

AND THEN THAT PERSON WANTED US TO GET THEM OFF THEIR PROPERTY PRONTO.

SO THAT IS THE REASON WE REALLY LIKED THIS CORRAL TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM AT THE, ON OUR PROPERTY.

THANK YOU, MR. GREENBERG.

THANKS FOR EVERYTHING YOU'RE DOING.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.

ALL RIGHT, MS. RICE.

HELLO, LISA.

WHERE'S THE, THERE'S NO MOUSE.

OH, IT'S HIDING.

THAT'S WHY IT'S HIGH.

IT'S HEIGHTENED FROM THE YOGA PIT CATS.

CAN'T COME TO YOU AND YOU AIN'T GOT TO DO YOGA.

PROBABLY NOT.

OKAY, HERE WE GO.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN BEAT HIS TIME, BUT I'LL GIVE IT A SHOT HERE.

UM, SO, UM, OH, HUMAN RESOURCES WORK FORCE REPORT.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO EVERY, AND IT'S GOING TO RECAP OUR STATISTICS FOR 2021 THAT WE JUST FINISHED OUT.

AND THEN THE SECOND PORTION WE'LL COVER, UM, STAFFING REQUESTS, COMPENSATION PROPOSED CHANGES IN ANY BENEFITS, PROPOSED CHANGES COMING INTO FYI 23.

SO THIS IS A SNAPSHOT IN TIME AS OF DECEMBER 31ST, 2021, THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT WE HAVE HERE IN THE COUNTY, AND THIS DOES INCLUDE OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES.

UM, ANYTHING THAT YOU SEE IN BLUE ON THIS SLIDE AND ALSO HEADING INTO FUTURE SLIDES ARE GONNA REPRESENT PREVIOUS YEAR, JUST SO JUST FOR POINT OF REFERENCE.

UM, SO CURRENTLY WE HAVE 302 EMPLOYEES ON STAFF AND IN OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES, AND YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS FOR LAST YEAR WERE UP SIGNIFICANTLY

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FROM WHERE WE WERE, AND THAT WAS DUE TO, UM, NEW APPROVED POSITIONS IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGET.

AND THEN ALSO WE HAD APPROVAL FOR NEW POSITIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR AS WELL.

UM, THE NEXT SLIDE IS KIND OF THE FUN SLIDE.

IT'S TALKS A LOT ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS OF OUR STAFF.

YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE AVERAGE SALARY IS NOW 60,600 AND CHANGE.

UM, LAST YEAR WAS 56,000.

THE AVERAGE AGE OF EMPLOYEE RIGHT NOW IS 43 YEARS OLD.

LAST YEAR WAS ONLY WAS 44.

SO WE'RE PRETTY CLOSE THERE.

UM, YEARS OF SERVICE, FIVE YEARS MALES VERSUS FEMALES, 180 1, 1 16, AND THEN OUR MINORITY RATE RIGHT NOW IS 15.2%.

WE ARE UP FROM THE PAST TWO YEARS THERE.

AND THEN A NEW STATISTIC I PRESENTED FOR YOU ALL LAST YEAR WAS THE COUNTY'S CITIZENSHIP.

AND SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE A LITTLE BIT OVER 40%.

THAT IS A LITTLE BIT LOW.

UM, THERE ARE OTHER COUNTIES WHERE IT IS HIGHER.

YOU'LL SEE IT IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THEIR, THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY ONE-TIME BONUSES THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED EITHER.

SO FROM THE HR DEPARTMENT LAST YEAR, WE HAVE, WE HAD A VERY, UM, BUSY YEAR.

IN FACT, IT WAS KIND OF RECORD BREAKING IN A LOT OF RESPECTS, THE NUMBERS OF JOBS POSTED ALMOST DOUBLED.

UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE APPLICATIONS RECEIVED IN RESPONSE TO THOSE.

AND WE ACTUALLY MEASURE THE APPLICATIONS RECEIVED FROM OUR MINORITY POPULATION AS WELL.

AND YOU CAN KIND OF GAUGE WHERE THAT, UM, WE RECEIVED FEWER NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS FROM OUR MINORITY GROUPS, UM, NUMBER OF NEW HIRES, 70 NEW HIRES COMPARED TO 46, THE PREVIOUS YEAR.

AND THEN THE PERCENTAGE OF MINORITIES THAT WERE HIRED IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN THE LAST TWO YEARS, WHICH IS TO BE EXPECTED WHEN WE HAVE LESS APPLICANTS.

SO SEPARATIONS FOR 2021, UM, ON COUNTY STAFF, WE HAD 27 PEOPLE LEAVE US 13 WERE FULL-TIME 14, PART-TIME COMPARED TO 23 LAST YEAR.

AND OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICES, WE DID HAVE 10 LEAVE US THIS YEAR COMPARED TO THE 13 LAST YEAR.

UM, AND IT ENDS UP BEING A 13.2% TURNOVER RATE.

AND THERE WERE, SOME OF THE REASONS ARE BROKEN DOWN ON THE SIDE.

THERE, WE DID HAVE SEVEN RETIREMENTS THIS YEAR, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN IN PREVIOUS YEARS FOR INVOLUNTARY SEPARATIONS.

AND THEN 26 EITHER.

THERE WAS NO REAL REASON OR GIVEN, OR THEY TOOK ANOTHER POSITION ELSEWHERE.

UM, AS FAR AS BENEFITS GO, THE COUNTY HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN HAS BEEN THE SAME FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

NOW WE DO OFFER THREE TIERS OF OUR HEALTH INSURANCE, A HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, A $500 DEDUCTIBLE PLAN AND A $250 DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, AND THEN A HIGH AND LOW TIER OF DENTAL COVERAGE.

AND YOU CAN PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT FITS YOUR FAMILY EMPLOYEE ONLY EMPLOYEE PLUS ONE OR, OR THE FAMILY OF OUR ELIGIBLE WORKFORCE.

91% OF OUR STAFF ARE ENROLLED IN OUR HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN.

THAT IS AN OUTSTANDING NUMBER AS WELL AS ANOTHER BENEFIT THE COUNTY HAS GRACIOUSLY PROVIDED FOR EVERYONE IS IF YOU RETIRE FROM GOOCHLAND COUNTY AND YOU'RE NOT YET 65 YEARS OLD, WE DO ALLOW YOU TO STAY ON THE COUNTY HAS HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN.

UM, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR THE FULL PREMIUM YOURSELF, BUT YOU DO HAVE THAT COVERAGE AVAILABLE FOR YOU.

AND THEN IF YOU'VE BEEN WITH US FOR 15 YEARS, WE WILL GIVE YOU A HEALTH INSURANCE CREDIT TO APPLY TOWARDS THAT COVERAGE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE POLICY FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

WE HAVE CURRENTLY FOUR RETIREES THAT FIT THAT DESCRIPTION RIGHT NOW WE HAD TWO OF THEM DROP OFF FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR THAT EITHER AGED OUT OR FOUND OTHER INSURANCE PAY INCREASES.

UM, HISTORICALLY, SO I HAVE THE PAST 10 YEARS WORTH OF MERIT INCREASES THAT THE COUNTY HAS PROVIDED TO STAFF HERE IN THIS GRAPH.

UM, EVERY YEAR, EXCEPT FOR, UH, 2012, I WASN'T HERE.

THEN I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT IT WAS ECONOMICALLY DRIVEN.

AND THEN OF COURSE IN DURING THE COVID PANDEMIC WHERE WE KIND OF FROZE A LOT OF THINGS, THERE WAS NO PERCENTAGE INCREASE THERE.

WHAT THIS DOESN'T SHOW YOU IS ANY BONUSES, ONE TIME LUMP SUM BONUSES THAT WERE GIVEN THERE, AND THE SAME GOES FOR THIS CHART.

SO THESE ARE OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES, UM, AND THE PAY INCREASES THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL YEARS, FIVE YEARS UP THERE,

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AND WE'RE HAPPY OF COURSE, TO PROVIDE THIS DECK TO YOU FOR FURTHER STUDY LATER ON.

SO THE FYI 23 OUTLOOK, I'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, UM, POSITION REQUESTS, AND SOME COMPENSATION PROPOSED CHANGES FOR THIS UPCOMING BUDGET.

THIS SLIDE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO READ THAT.

SO WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU IS THAT FOR FY 23, WE HAVE NO PREMIUM INCREASE IN OUR HEALTH INSURANCE POLICY IN THAT IS FANTASTIC COMMUNITIES.

WE WERE LOOKING AT ABOUT ONE TO 2%, UM, PREVIOUSLY, AND WE GOT THE PHONE CALL ABOUT A WEEK AGO THAT THERE IS NONE.

SO WHAT'S NICE ABOUT OUR HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN IS THERE'S NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO IT.

WE DO OFFER ONE OF THE RICHEST BENEFITS.

SO EVEN THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, BECAUSE YOU CAN PICK UP AT $250 ANNUAL DEDUCTIBLE PLAN FOR EMPLOYEE ONLY FOR ONLY $50 A PAYCHECK.

THE OTHER PIECE TO THAT AS ANYONE WHO HAS A FAMILY IN HIS OWN OR HEALTH INSURANCE, THE COUNTY IS ACTUALLY PAYING EITHER A 68% OR A 73% OF THE PREMIUM WHEN OTHER SURROUNDING COUNTIES ARE PAYING AROUND 40% AND SOME OF THEM DON'T EVEN COVER SPOUSES.

SO, UM, WE DO USE OUR HEALTH INSURANCE AS A RECRUITING TOOL.

IT IS DISCUSSED WHEN WE, WHEN WE GO AND MAKE OFFERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THEN INFORMATION IS SHARED WITH THEM.

UM, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO GET SOME GOOD CANDIDATES BECAUSE OF THE POLICY IS THAT WE DO OFFER, OKAY, SO NEW STAFFING FOR F BY 23, YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THESE ALREADY.

UM, MR. ALVAREZ DID COVER THIS EARLIER.

IF YOU LOOK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU'LL SEE A SUMMARY OF ALL OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY POSITIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN HIS PROPOSED BUDGET THIS AFTERNOON.

AND ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, YOU WILL SEE GENERAL GOVERNMENT.

UM, THERE WERE 36 TOTAL REQUESTED, AND THIS INCLUDES THE THREE THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AT A BOARD MEETING TO START EARLIER THIS YEAR.

UM, SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE BREAKDOWN THERE, THREE IN UTILITIES, UM, AND IN NEW ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTOR IN PUBLIC SERVICE, AND THEN A COUPLE IN PARKS AND RECREATION, WE HAVE SPORTS FIELD TECHNICIAN THAT WAS ADDED, UM, IN JANUARY AT A PREVIOUS BOARD MEETING AND THEN CREATE, UM, CONVERTING A RECREATION SUPERVISOR FROM PART-TIME TO FULL-TIME.

WITH WHATEVER MONEY THAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO TRY AND WORK, TO GET SOME OF THAT PAID PLANS STRAIGHTENED OUT BASED ON THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, THESE ARE THE OTHER POSITIONS THAT WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE COUNTY.

ADMINISTRATOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET, 11 OF THEM.

UM, WE HAD A PART-TIME ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT, AN ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY IN HR MANAGER, UM, TO MOTORIST ASSISTANCE SLASH SECURITY, WHICH THE SHERIFF TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE ANIMAL PROTECTION OFFICER AT THE GROUNDS KEEP HER MARKETING COORDINATOR AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNER.

AS FAR AS COMPENSATION, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET DID INCLUDE A RECOMMENDED MERIT INCREASE OF 3% AT THIS TIME.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE PLANNED FOR, AND THAT'S WHAT THE BALANCED BUDGET REFLECTS RIGHT NOW.

HOWEVER, WE ARE JUST IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PLANNING AND ALTERING PHASES OF THE BUDGET BEFORE WE GET TO FINAL ADOPTION, UM, THERE IS A NEW MINIMUM WAGE MANDATE COMING OUT FOR JANUARY 1ST, 2023.

AND THAT IS THAT ALL EMPLOYEES WILL MAKE AT LEAST $12 AN HOUR.

UM, WE ARE ALREADY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT.

THE COUNTY TOOK CARE OF THAT JUST A MONTH AGO.

UM, WE IMPLEMENTED THAT IN ADVANCE IN PREPARATION FOR THIS.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE ABOVE BOARD THERE.

AND THEN AS FAR AS ANY PAY PLAN ADJUSTMENTS, WE DO A BENCHMARK STUDY UNDERWAY.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT SURROUNDING COUNTIES AND SOME, THERE MAY BE SOME PRIVATE SECTOR IN THERE AS WELL.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT PAY PLAN, THE STRUCTURE OF IT AND THE BANDS ITSELF.

UM, THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHETHER DIFFERENT POSITIONS SHOULD BE EARNING OVERTIME OR SHOULD BE ON SALARY.

AND THAT'S WHAT THAT FLS SAY STATUS IS.

AND THEN ALSO THEY'RE LOOKING AT INTERNAL EQUITY AND HOW WE COMPARE TO THE OTHER LOCALITIES IN THE MARKET.

THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT HEALTH INSURANCE, JUST PAY ONLY.

WE DO.

WE DO EXPECT, UM, SOME NUMBERS BACK FROM FRIENDLY ORGANIZATION, THE END OF APRIL.

UM, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK

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WE'LL BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD LATER ON.

SO JUST A QUICK RECAP, UM, NO HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE.

WE DO HAVE 25 NEW POSITIONS PROPOSED RIGHT NOW.

WE HAVE A 3% MERIT INCREASE PROPOSED RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON THE MARKET ALIGNMENT AND SALARY SCALE STUDY RIGHT NOW.

WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE FOR ME? UM, SO HOW CAN WE GET THE BENEFITS INCLUDED IN THE STUDY THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THIS? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'LL JUST DO OURSELVES AND ADD INTO IT? THE BENEFITS, THE BENEFIT OF THE INSURANCE COSTS? YES, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU SAID WERE SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER.

WE ARE.

SO THIS, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR RFP AND COMPANY AND CONSULTANTS ONLY FOCUSED ON COMPENSATION.

IF WE WANTED TO DO A BENEFITS ANALYSIS, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS WE CAN DO.

WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK TO SOMEBODY ELSE TO GO DO THAT.

BUT I ALSO HAVE A BENEFITS CONSULTANT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE WORKING WITH US RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND HE HAS ACCESS TO SEE WHERE EVERYONE ELSE IS AS FAR AS THEIR, THE PREMIUMS THAT THEY'RE PAYING AND STUFF.

AND I CAN HAVE HIM LOOK INTO THAT IN THE MEANTIME, TO GET US SOME ANSWERS.

SO WE WOULD JUST TAKE WHAT WE DO ON THE BENEFITS ON THE L INSURANCE AND THEN COMBINED IT WITH WHAT WE'RE PAYING THE CONSULTANT TO DO ON THE SALARIES AND GIVE US A FINAL REPORT.

IS THAT RIGHT? COMPENSATION? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT, YES.

WE CAN PUT THAT TOGETHER FOR YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MR. SHARP CAN GO BACK TO THE, TO THE, TO THE TREATMENT COSTS, SLIDE, THE COST OF PREMIUMS. YES.

THE ONE THAT'S HARD TO READ BECAUSE IT'S JUST A PICTURE PDF PICTURE.

SO THESE ARE MONTHLY SHARES.

SO A SINGLE PERSON IS PAYING $50 A MONTH FOR ALL THE DRUGS.

SO SOMEBODY WHO'S ON THE TWO 50 DEDUCTIBLE PLAN, IT'S EMPLOYEE ONLY, IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS A MONTH.

IT'S $50 A PAYCHECK.

WE GET PAID TWICE A MONTH BECAUSE I'M JUST LOOKING, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THIS A YEAR OR TWO AGO ABOUT ELIMINATING A TWO 50 DEDUCTIBLE BECAUSE THE COST, RIGHT.

AND IF YOU LOOK RIGHT THERE, 70 TIMES, THE DIFFERENCE OF, UH, 50 TO $35 A MONTH DIFFERENCE, NO IT'S HUNDRED, SORRY, IT'S REALLY $70 A MONTH.

DIFFERENCE TIMES 12, 8, 800 $40, ET CETERA.

RIGHT? SO TO GO FROM A TWO 50 TO A $500 DEDUCTIBLE, THEY'RE GOING TO SAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PREMIUM, RIGHT? IT GETS PEOPLE, IT GETS OUR COST DOWN, BUT IT ALSO, THE EMPLOYEE LEARNS, I CAN SAVE $800 AND MAYBE SPEND TWO 50, IF I CAN GO TO THE DOCTOR.

WE, UM, SO LAST YEAR WE, YEAH, WE DID.

WE TALKED, WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST YEAR.

UM, THERE WERE CHANGES THAT WE MADE I'D WORKED ON AND WE ALL KIND OF AGREED ON.

UM, AND IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE PREMIUMS HAD BEEN CHANGED IN QUITE SOME TIME.

AND SO WE DID END UP INCREASING TO 50, NOT AS MUCH AS THE 500 NUMBER STARTING TO LEVEL THAT OFF BECAUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY THE ADVICE OF OUR THIRD-PARTY AS WELL IS, HEY, YOU'RE OFFERING A TWO 50 PLAN HERE, WHICH IS FANTASTIC FOR EMPLOYEES, BUT YOU GOT TO WATCH THE, THEIR USAGE AND THEIR EXPENSES AND THEIR PHARMACEUTICAL COSTS, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO COME BACK TO HAUNT YOU IF ANTHEM STARTS RAISING YOUR PREMIUMS UP.

AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT A LOT LAST YEAR, UM, THERE WAS NO INCREASE PROPOSED THIS YEAR.

AND SO IT WAS JUST KIND OF LEAVE IT AS IS ALSO BECAUSE WE'RE BATTLING RECRUITING RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND THIS IS NOT A NEW STORY.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, WHERE IT'S KIND OF HARD TO RAISE THE COST, TO HAVE SOMEBODY BENEFITS WHEN YOU'RE STRUGGLING TO, TO BE ABLE, JUST TO RECRUIT EMPLOYEES IN GENERAL WHEN WE HAVE A STABLE PREMIUM COMING UP FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

BUT YES, WE DID TECH.

WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT.

WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT THAT, UM, AND I CAN HAVE OUR THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR LOOK AROUND AND SEE WHAT THE OTHER LOCALITIES ARE DOING AS FAR AS OUR HEALTH PLANS

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RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

UM, YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE REAL QUICK.

UM, COULD YOU GO TO SIGN NINE? THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, WE'RE DOING THIS STUDY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT, THIS IS WE'RE IN THE RIGHT PLACE, RIGHT TIME.

UM, AS PART OF, ARE THEY GOING TO BE ASKING WHETHER OR NOT OTHER COUNTIES USE DEFERRED COMP AS A WAY TO RETAIN, UM, CITIZENS OR EMPLOYEES? UM, I DON'T RECALL THAT THAT'S A SPECIFIC QUESTION THAT THEY PUT OUT ON THEIR SURVEY.

WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE AN APPLES TO APPLES.

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR TOTAL COMP IT'S CURRENT COMP, THE FIRST COMP BENEFITS, WE'RE LOOKING TO BE COMPETITIVE A TOTAL COMP BASIS.

SO IT MIGHT BE A QUESTION WORTH ASKING.

THE SECOND ONE IS, UM, AS, AS SOON AS THIS STUDY IS IN ANG STRIDE, IT'S GOING TO BE OUTDATED, UH, BECAUSE THESE, AS YOU, AS, YOU KNOW, GO THROUGH FYI 22, AND I SEE A LOT OF 2%, 3%, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M HEARING ABOUT FOR 23.

SO WHEN WE GET THE NUMBERS FROM THEM, IF IT'S ONLY THROUGH 22, WE THEN NEED TO PAY ATTENTION AND ADJUST ALL THOSE NUMBERS BASED ON 23 IS INFORMATION THEY'VE BEEN AT THE, YEAH, THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, IF THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION TO INCLUDE ANY SORT OF ACROSS THE BOARD INCREASE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE IN JULY, ALL THE LOCALITIES RIGHT NOW, OR AT THE SAME STARTING LINE THAT WE ARE SO RACE TO THE FINISH.

UM, AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE LITERALLY JUST PRESENTING THEIR PROPOSED BUDGET AT THE SAME TIME, TOO.

SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PRESENTING, I HEARD SOMETHING RIDICULOUS, LIKE 7.9 SOMEWHERE THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING TO END UP.

UM, SO WE'RE WE'RE YES, THAT, THAT PART WAS DEFINITELY DISCUSSED IF THEY'RE TARGETING 22 AND THEY A BULLSEYE IN 22, IT MAY MISS THE MARK FOR 23.

CAN I JUST, I GUESS, COULD YOU PLEASE, I HAVE MY MICROPHONE.

SO IT DOES, IF SOMEBODY IS THINKING HAMPTON MORE CATASTROPHIC EARLY ON IN COMBINATION WITH MY CAP.

SO I, AND I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH OVER THE WEEKEND ON RACES, AND THE ONLY THING THAT'S OUT THERE IS OUR SCHOOL BOARDS, BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY PRESENTED THEIR BUDGET TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, LIKE, UM, IN MOST CASES, IN MANY CASES, WELL, THEY'VE HAD IT APPROVED OTHER SCHOOL BOARD.

THANK YOU, MR. WILKINS, YOU KNOW, BACK TO THE HEALTH INSURANCE, I, YOU KNOW, HARD FOR ME TO NOT SPEAK UP ON THAT TOPIC BECAUSE I'VE WHEN I WAS ON SCHOOL BOARD.

SO WHAT I'M LIKE EIGHT YEARS INTO THIS, WHERE I THINK WE JUST REALLY COULD DO A BETTER, MAYBE IT'S NOT FAIR TO SAY A BETTER JOB, BUT WE SHOULD FOCUS ON, ON BENEFITS.

YOU USE IT AS A RECRUITING TOOL.

THAT'S GREAT.

BUT IT NEEDS TO BE FIGURED IN LIKE, LIKE YOU WERE JUST SAYING TOTAL COMPENSATION, MAYBE UNIQUE THINGS WE DO, BUT, BUT THE BENEFITS NEEDS TO, WE NEED TO GOOD.

WE DO IT, USE IT AS A RECRUITING TOOL.

WE OUGHT TO USE IT ALL YEAR LONG, BUT TO MR. SHARP'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN MR. SHARP KIND OF CHIMED IN, I WAS LIKE, OH, HERE WE GO.

I'M KIND OF GOING TO LATCH ONTO THIS.

UM, THE, THE TOP OF THAT CHART WITH THE TWO 50 PLAN, I THINK THE PERCENTAGE PARTICIPATION ACROSS THAT SHOW.

SO, SO HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLANS FOR? YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, BUT I DO RECALL LAST YEAR THEY WERE, THAT'S NOT 4%, THAT'S FOUR PEOPLE.

SO OUR OTHER TWO CLIENTS, THE TWO 50 AND THE 500, THAT'S IT.

WE HAVE THREE PLANS.

NOW OVER 80% ARE IN THE TWO 50 PLAN, 80, 85, 80 5% OF THE PEOPLE.

SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CHART AND SEE WHY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO THAT, BUT THEY CAN SAVE MONEY, GO INTO A $500.

THAT'S THE SAME THING.

YOU'RE SPENDING MORE MONEY OUT OF YOUR POCKET TO HAVE A LOWER DEDUCTIBLE THAN IF YOU WENT TO A HIGHER DEDUCTIBLE AND YOU HAD MONEY.

AND, AND TO YOUR POINT, WHICH IS AMAZING THAT YOU HAVE THAT HIGH PERCENTAGE PARTICIPANT IN THAT PLAN WHERE OUR ADVISORS CAUTIONING US ABOUT THAT SAYING THAT CAN COME BACK TO BITE YOU, WHICH IS AMAZING THAT WE GET A 0% INCREASE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.

SO WE HAVE HEALTHY EMPLOYEES OR WE'VE HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE, RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE STILL, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING.

UM, JUST TO WRAP UP REALLY QUICK WHEN WE WERE TALKING WITH THE GENTLEMAN WHO GOES THROUGH OUR CLAIMS WITH US AND STUFF, AND, UM, THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF CLAIMS ACTUALLY OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS HAVE BEEN MENTAL HEALTH.

AND THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO SAY HOW THAT PLAYED OUT.

AND IT'S NOT JUST, YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER.

WE'RE ALSO NOT, IT'S NOT JUST US STANDALONE WERE POOLED WITH SOCIAL SERVICE STAFF, THE SCHOOL STAFF AND CSB.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKED AS ONE LARGE UNIT.

AND WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR HIGH DOLLAR CLAIMS, THE MAJORITY OF THEM HONESTLY, OR WERE MENTAL HEALTH RELATED.

UM, BUT I THINK THERE'S A COMPONENT OF THIS.

I COULD BE WRONG HERE, BUT WITH LOOKING AT THE PLANS, THERE'S ALSO A COPE, THE COPAY FACTOR, WHICH IS MUCH BETTER.

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SO WHILE FROM A DEDUCTIBLE PERSPECTIVE, IT MAY MAKE SENSE FROM A CO-PAY PERSPECTIVE, IT MAY NOT SEEM AS ATTRACTIVE.

MY POINT IS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO, THIS BOARD NEEDS TO BE INFORMED OF THE WHOLE PACKAGE WHEN WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS.

UM, BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF THE COMPENSATION.

AND THEN I THINK WE OUGHT TO TAP INTO OUR CONSULTANT OR LISTEN TO OUR CONSULTANT AND TRY TO MOVE THIS THING AWAY FROM SUCH A HIGH PERCENTAGE PARTICIPATION IN THE AREA WHERE, BECAUSE THERE'S, I MEAN, I CAN SAY THIS, BUT THEN I'VE BEEN SITTING HERE WAITING FOR THAT JOB.

WE'VE HAD TIMES WHERE WE'RE TALKING, HEY, YOU'RE GOING TO SIX, SIX OR 7% INCREASE.

AND THEN THEY COME IN AT FOUR.

SO WE'RE DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.

OR, OR, OR BEING TOO CONSERVATIVE IN OUR PROJECTIONS OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

BUT, BUT AT LEAST WE CAN, I THINK WE CAN POSITION OURSELVES BETTER TO HAVE A SMOOTHER TRANSITION IF WE EVER DO GET HIT IN A, IN A TOUGH EXPERIENCE EXPERIENCE HERE.

SO ANYWAY, I THANK YOU.

I JUST ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO STAY FOCUSED ON THAT.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE FOUR REAL QUICK? I APOLOGIZE.

I'M HAVING A HARD TIME JUST DECIPHER IN THIS.

SO IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS, WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH, IF THE FIRST LINE IS 47, 26 NUMBER OF JOBS POSTED, HOW DID WE HIRE 70? SO IF WE HAVE A JOB POSTED, UM, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

OUR WE'VE, WE'VE POSTED A RECREATION AIDE OR ASSISTANT, AND WE ACTUALLY MAKE FOUR OR FIVE HIRES OFF OF THAT ONE JOB POSTING.

SO IT'S NOT POSITIONS POSTED, CORRECT.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR, OUR MINORITY HIRING EFFORTS AND THAT'S WHY I THINK TO REALLY GET INTO REALLY HOWARD WHERE WE ARE NOW, I CAN'T REALLY DECIPHER TOO MUCH FROM THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT, WE HAVE MORE HIRES AND JOHN'S POSTERS CAN SORT OF LOOK LIKE WE'RE AT WE'VE HIRED 15 MINORITIES AND OUT OF THE HUNDRED THAT WE HAD APPLY, WOULD THAT BE RIGHT TO BE HAD 18.5% OF 5 36 IS 99.6, RIGHT UP TO A HUNDRED.

SO YOU HIRED 15 OUT OF A HUNDRED.

DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? IT SOUNDS CLOSE.

JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT.

AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE WELL ONLY 18.5% APPLY AT 21.4 WORD HIGHER.

I SEE THAT.

AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS IF OUR NUMBERS GOING DOWN, HOW DID OUR MINORITY MIX GO UP OF TOTAL STAFF? SO OUR MINORITY RATE WENT UP TO 15.2% WITH MORE POSITIONS AND LESS PEOPLE, LESS PERCENTAGE HIRED BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF STAFF NUMBER THAT WE ALREADY HAD ON STAFF.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, OF THE PEOPLE APPLIED WHERE IT'S A SMALLER NUMBER, BUT WE HIRED 21% OF THE 72, THE CURRENT, WHICH WAS, UH, OKAY.

I CAN DIVE INTO IT LATER.

MR. CHAIR, HOTBED, THIS SLIDE CROP, THIS, YOU PUT THE SLIDE UP THE QUESTION I HAD AND I THOUGHT I WOULD JUST GO LOOK AT WHATEVER APPLICATIONS, BUT DO WE ASK PEOPLE TO IDENTIFY THEIR RACE ON THE APPLICATION? YEAH, IT IS.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY CAPTURED SEPARATELY FROM THE APPLICATION ITSELF.

WE USE A SOFTWARE PROGRAM CALLED NEO GOV.

UM, SO YOU WILL SEE A COUPLE OF THEM THAT WE'LL JUST SELECT I CHOOSE NOT TO, OR, UM, OR TO LEAVE IT BLANK.

AND IN THAT CASE, I DON'T COUNT THAT NUMBER.

SO BECAUSE, AND TAKE IT OFF OF THE NUMERATORS ON TOP DENOMINATOR ON THE BOTTOM THAT YOU TAKE IT OUT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEW MAY NOT IT'S GREATER THAN ONE, BUT YOU TAKE, YOU TAKE IT OUT OF THE DENOMINATOR.

ALRIGHT, MS. TWIDDLE, YOU NEED SOME INFORMATION FROM US.

UH, I MAY NEED HELP.

I CAN DO IT.

LOST THE BOARD WHO OPERATES? WE CAN BE DONE IN TWO MINUTES.

SURE.

WE GOT YOUR EMOTION SHEETS.

RATE, WHICH IS NOT AN INCREASE IN OUR TAX RATE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD.

THIS IS MARIANA TWIST SALE DIRECTOR

[3. 5275: Authorization to Advertise for Public Hearing the Proposed 2022 Real Estate Tax Rate]

FINANCIAL SERVICES.

WE HAVE FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS THAT WE HOLD FOR THE BUDGET.

AND BASICALLY THE ONLY THING THAT YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS AUTHORIZING THESE FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE REAL ESTATE TAX INCREASE.

WE ARE ADVERTISING A 53 CENT

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HOWEVER, DUE TO THE ASSESSMENTS GOING UP, IT IS AN INCREASE IN THE EFFECTIVE RATE.

BASED ON OUR ASSESSMENTS IS 48 CENTS.

WE ARE ADVERTISING 53.

SO TECHNICALLY THAT'S AN EFFECTIVE RATE INCREASE OF 5 CENTS.

WE HAVE TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON APRIL 5TH TO ADVERTISE THAT TAX RATE.

AND THERE IS THE MOTION.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN ANSWER THOSE FOR YOU QUESTIONS AND WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION SO WE CAN GET TO SEE IF IT GETS A SECOND.

THEN WE CAN DISCUSS IT.

I MOVED AT THE GOODSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, APPROVE ADVERTISING THE ATTACHED NOTICE AND SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 5TH, 2022 TO CONSIDER THE 2022 REAL ESTATE TAX.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION.

BITE AT THE SCHOOL'S BUDGET, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND ALL TAX RATES.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.

THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HOLD IS FOR THE PROPOSED COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS

[4. 5276: Authorization to Advertise for Public Hearing the County Administrator's Proposed FY2023 County Budget, the Proposed FY2023-FY2047 Capital Improvement Program, the Proposed School Board FY2023 Budget, and Proposed 2022 Tax Rates]

THIS IS ON PAGE 11 THROUGH 14 OF YOUR PACKET.

IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC, UM, NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THE BUDGET AT THIS TIME, AND THERE IS THE MOTION.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THE REAL ESTATE TAX RELIEF FOR CERTAIN ELDERLY AND DISABLED PERSONS.

BOARD BUELLER.

WHERE'S THE CHECK.

DID YOU SAY 13? OH, PITCH ALONE.

OH, I'M IN THE PLACE.

I'M READING AHEAD AGAIN.

NO, THAT WOULD BE IN YOUR PACKET.

JUST MAKE, JUST MAKE, JUST READ WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN JOB.

MR. CHAIR, I MOVED AT THE GOODSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, APPROVE ADVERTISING, THE ATTACHED NOTICED AND SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 5TH, 2022 TO CONSIDER THE FY 23 BUDGET AND 2022 TAX RATES.

THANK YOU TO MY SENIOR, UM, BOARD MEMBERS IN TENURE, NOT AN AGE, ANY DISCUSSION, BOTH.

ALRIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.

NUMBER THREE.

WE NEED TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE TO INCREASE

[5. 5281: Request to set public hearing for April 5, 2022, to consider an ordinance amending County Code Sec. 13-63 (Exemption of real estate taxes and deferral of special taxes upon real estate authorized) to increase the real estate tax relief for certain elderly and disabled persons]

AS MR. ALVAREZ TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IN HIS PRESENTATION FROM $900 MAXIMUM TO A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

AND THERE'S A MOTION UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

I DO.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, IF THIS PASSES, WE CANNOT GO HIGHER THAN A THOUSAND IN TERMS OF RELIEF.

IS THAT OKAY? AS FAR AS TAX RATE, YOU CAN'T GO UP.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE HELD TO THIS.

NO, I DON'T THINK SO.

THIS IS NOT A TECH.

NO, THIS IS NOT A TAX RATE.

THIS IS JUST WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY.

AND HE SAYS, YES, UNDERSTAND.

SO WE COULD, IF WE COULD, IF, IF WE SO CHOOSE, WE'RE NOT LIMITING OURSELVES TO THE AMOUNT OF RELIEF THAT WE COULD ADOPT.

UM, IT'S THAT, I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

I THINK THE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE ONLY THING THAT YOU'RE LOCKING YOURSELF INTO AT THIS POINT IS TAX RATE.

YEAH, BUT THIS NEEDS TO BE THIS, OH, THIS IS, UH, EFFECTIVELY A TAX REDUCTION.

SO I DON'T THINK, YEAH, YEAH.

YOU'D BE GOING DOWN ANYWAY.

AS FAR AS WHAT PEOPLE WERE PAYING AND AT THIS POINT IT'S APPEAR, APPEARS, THIS IS GOING TO ONLY AFFECT ABOUT 200 PEOPLE THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PROGRAM.

SO THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN MOVIE, THAT THE GOOSEY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 50,022 TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE REAL ESTATE TAX RELIEF FOR CERTAIN ELDERLY AND DISABLED PERSONS.

SECOND, THANK YOU, MR. TOMPKINS, THIS LAST CLIP, ANY DISCUSSION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.

AND THE LAST ONE, UM, IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY FEE

[6. 5280: Request to set public hearing for April 5, 2022, to consider an Ordinance amending the County Fee Schedule, Appendix C to the County Code, to: increase the utilities water and sewer volume and service fees; increase the base building inspections residential electrical, plumbing, and mechanical permit fees; add a fee for requesting a 30-day extension of an existing temporary occupancy permit; and add an hourly fee to the fireworks permit fee for the fire marshal’s time over 3 hours]

SCHEDULE.

UM, EVERY YEAR WE ASK OUR DEPARTMENTS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR FEES, TO SEE IF THEY'RE COMPETITIVE OR WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, PUBLIC UTILITIES ALREADY HAS A FEE SCHEDULE SET OUT, AND THIS IS WHAT'S REFLECTED HERE.

IT'S ALSO ON PAGE 18 TO 23 OF YOUR PACKET.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE EACH INDIVIDUAL FEE, UM, IT HAS THEM ALL LISTED OUT FOR YOU.

AND THIS IS JUST AGAIN TO ADVERTISE OUR, OUR CHANGE TO THE FEE, RIGHT.

FOR APPENDIX C.

SETTING, A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 5TH, 2022 TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE COUNTY PIECE SCHEDULE IS PRESENTED.

I MOVED ON TO THE BOARD APPROVED

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WE HAVE A MOTION.

CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND? THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

SEE NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

WE WILL RECESS FOR OUR DINNER BREAK AND SEE YOU BACK HERE AT SIX, THE BIG HAND ON THE 12TH,

[V. Dinner Break]

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GOING

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BACK

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ORDER

[VI. Chair Calls Meeting Back to Order, 6:00 PM 5279: Presentation on redistricting public comments; Consideration of requests for revisions to Proposed Redistricting Map; and Request to Set public hearing for March 15, 2022, to consider adoption of redistricting map and ordinance]

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OUR

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SUPERVISED

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BURSTS

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PROVIDERS MEAN TO TALK THIS MORNING.

SOME HAS BEEN A LOT OF WORK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO GET TO THIS PLACE.

AND I NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, MISS BUGGY TO GO OVER THE CHANGES FOR CONSIDERATION FOR THE REDISTRICTING MAPS.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MS. PASKOWITZ, UH, I AM GOOSSEN COUNTY ATTORNEY TARA MCGEE, AND I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO PRESENT YOU THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND REQUEST FOR REVISIONS TO THE COUNTY'S PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP.

THIS IS THE REDISTRICTING TEAM KNOWN TO ALL OF YOU MAY HAVE WORKED VERY HARD AND DEVOTED A GREAT DEAL OF TIME TO THIS EFFORT.

I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE EFFORT AND ENERGY THEY'VE SPENT ON THIS PROJECT.

UH, LET ME PROVIDE YOU A CONTEXT FOR OUR DISCUSSION.

THE QUICK REMINDER OF THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR REDISTRICTING ELECTION DISTRICTS.

WHEN WE SAY SUBSTANTIALLY EQUAL IN POPULATION, THE BOARD WILL RECALL THAT'S PLUS OR MINUS 5% OF YOUR TARGET POPULATION CONTIGUOUS AND COMPACT DISTRICTS NOT CANNOT BE DRAWN PRIMARILY FOR THE PURPOSE OF EITHER CONCENTRATING OR DILUTING MINORITIES.

AND THOSE CLEARLY OBSERVABLE BOUNDARIES, THE ROAD STREAMS AND RIVERS ARE ACTUALLY WHAT WERE USED BY THE CENSUS BUREAU.

WHEN THEY CREATED CENSUS BLOCKS.

OUR REDISTRICTING HAS BEEN THE BUNDLING OF CENSUS BLOCKS AND THEN ASKED TO CONSIDER THE STATE ELECTION DISTRICTS.

THERE'S ONLY ONE STATE ELECTION DISTRICT BOUNDARY THAT RUNS THROUGH GOOCHLAND.

AND WE HAVE APPROPRIATELY INCORPORATED THAT INTO OUR MAP.

THE ADDITIONAL CRITERIA THAT THE REDISTRICTING TEAM LIVE USED ARE STATED HERE, EXCUSE ME.

UM, THESE WERE APPROVED BY THE BOARD.

WE MOVED THE FUNERALS NUMBER OF VOTERS THAT WE COULD TO MINIMIZE VIA VOTER DISRUPTION.

WE RETAINED THE SAME BASIC SHAPE OF CURRENT DISTRICTS, AND WE KEPT THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN THE SAME SUBDIVISION IN THE SAME DISTRICT.

WHEN THE REDISTRICTING TEAM PREVENT PROVIDED THESE CRITERIA TO YOU, IT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT WE USE THE WORD SUBDIVISION RATHER THAN NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE SUBDIVISION IS AN OBJECTIVE CRITERIA BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT A SUBDIVISION PLAT WAS FILED.

AND SO WE COULD USE THAT OBJECTIVE CRITERIA AND DID, AND THEN SHOWN STRUCK THROUGH AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE IS THE FOURTH CRITERIA, THE ONE THAT YOU DIRECTED STAFF NOT TO USE.

UM, SO THE TEAM HAS GIVEN IT NO CONSIDERATION, AND THAT IS OF INCUMBENCY HAVING FOLLOWED THESE CRITERIA.

THE TEAM CREATED THIS PROPOSED MAP AND IT'S POSTED TO THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE.

ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, YOU HAVE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE THE TARGET GOAL FOR EACH DISTRICT WAS 4,830, AND THIS SHOWS THE ADJUSTED POPULATION AND THAT EACH DISTRICT IN THE PROPOSED MAP IS PLUS OR MINUS 5% AS IT'S LEGALLY REQUIRED FOR THE PUBLIC INPUT AND COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.

UH, THE CREATION OF THE MAP WAS JUST THE START OF THE PROCESS.

AND THIS HAS BEEN THE MUCH MORE IMPORTANT PART OF IT.

THE TWO GOALS OF THIS PROCESS HAVE BEEN PUBLIC INPUT AND TRANSPARENCY.

WE HELD SEVEN COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY.

WE GAVE ABOUT A 35 MINUTE PRESENTATION.

WE WENT THROUGH EACH PRECINCT, TEACH MATH AND THE DATA THAT SURROUNDS IT, RESIDENTS COULD PARTICIPATE EITHER VIRTUALLY OR IN PERSON.

AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE PHOTOS FROM OUR ONLINE, EXCUSE ME, FROM OUR IN-PERSON MEETINGS.

WE HAD ABOUT 40 ATTENDEES AT THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, BOTH IN-PERSON AND VIRTUALLY THEY MEETINGS WERE VIDEOTAPED.

AND THEY'VE BEEN AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AND TRANSCRIPTS OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS WERE MADE AND PLACED ON THE WEBSITE.

IN FACT, THIS SLIDE IS FULL OF ALL THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY'S REDISTRICTING WEBSITE.

UM, IN THE TWO MONTHS OF THE MAP WAS CREATED, THIS WEBSITE HAS GOTTEN JUST ABOUT 1400 VIEWS FROM COUNTY RESIDENTS THOUGH BY FAR THE MOST USEFUL ELEMENT OF THE REDISTRICTING WEBSITE WAS THE INTERACTIVE MAPPING TOOL CREATED BY DEBBIE, AT GEORGE OF OUR GIS OFFICE.

IT ALLOWED RESIDENTS TO SEE WHAT DISTRICT THEY WERE IN CURRENTLY AND WHAT THEY WOULD BE IN UNDER THE PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP.

AND THIS ALSO RECEIVED ALMOST 1400 VIEWS IN THE PAST TWO MONTHS, AN AVERAGE OF 30 VIEWS PER DAY.

BUT THAT'S A SUMMARY OF THE INFORMATION WE PROVIDED OUT TO RESIDENTS TONIGHT.

I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU, THE COMMENTS THAT RESIDENTS MADE TO US ABOUT REDISTRICTING.

WE RECEIVED INQUIRIES, AS YOU MIGHT EXPECT ABOUT HOW RESIDENTS PRECINCT OR DISTRICT WOULD CHANGE OR WHY A POLLING PLACE WAS CHANGED.

THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS, LIKE WHAT THE ADJUSTED POPULATION WAS OR HOW IT WAS CREATED.

WE RECEIVED SOME INQUIRIES ABOUT HOW, AND WHEN PEOPLE WOULD BE NOTIFIED ABOUT THE CHANGES TO DISTRICTS AND PRECINCTS.

AND OF COURSE THE ANSWER TO THAT IS BY VOTER INFORMATION NOTICES THAT WILL BE SENT TO ALL GOOCHLAND VOTERS BEFORE JUNE 6TH, WE'RE ASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL AVAILABLE RESOURCES WERE USED TO NOTIFY RESIDENTS, WHICH WE INTEND TO DO.

IN ADDITION, ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS PROVIDED

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A SUGGESTION TO IMPROVE, UH, THE PROCESS BY MAKING SURE THAT THE FORMAL POLLING SITES, WE INCLUDE A SIGN TELLING FOLKS WHERE TO GO TO THE CURRENT POLLING SITES.

IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

SOMETHING THAT OUR ELECTORAL BOARD HAS DONE IN THE PAST RESIDENTS ASKED, WHO WOULD REPRESENT THEM BETWEEN THE TIME THAT MAP IS ADOPTED AND UNTIL THE NEXT ELECTION LOCAL ELECTION IN 2023.

THE ANSWER OF COURSE IS THAT YOU WILL CONTINUE TO REPRESENT YOUR DISTRICTS AS WILL THE SCHOOL BOARD AS WELL COUNTY POINT, UH, APPOINTEES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR OTHER DISTRICT COMMITTEES.

A RESIDENT ASKED ABOUT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE COUNTY'S ELECTION DISTRICTS CURRENTLY, AND UNDER THE PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP, THEY REMAIN REMARKABLY SIMILAR.

BUT THE NUMBER ONE COMMENT, THE MOST FREQUENT TOPIC THAT THE PUBLIC PROVIDED WAS APPRECIATION FOR THE HARD WORK THAT WAS DONE BY THE COUNTY ON REDISTRICTING.

PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT THAT WENT INTO CREATING THE MAP.

AND THEY EXPRESS THAT APPRECIATION TO STAFF, TO THE COUNTY, TO THEIR BOARD MEMBERS, EVEN WHILE NOT IN WRITING RESIDENTS EXPRESSED APPRECIATION FOR THE BOARD'S DECISION, NOT TO POLITICIZE THE PROCESS FOR THE WEALTH OF INFORMATION PROVIDED.

AND FOR THE MANY WAYS OF IT, THE CITIZENS WERE ALLOWED TO ENGAGE.

BUT THE NEXT PORTION IS FOR ME TO DISCUSS THE REQUESTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, ASKING FOR REVISIONS TO THE PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP, THE REDISTRICTING TEAM RECEIVED THREE REQUESTS FOR CHANGES AND THEY'RE PRESENTED IN THE ORDER THAT THEY WERE RECEIVED.

ONE TO REVISE A DISTRICT FOUR OR FIVE BOUNDARY, THE SECOND TO ADD A THIRD PRECINCT AND DISTRICT FOUR.

AND THE FINAL ONE TO REVISE THE DISTRICT ONE TO BOUNDARY BASED ON OUR COMMITMENT, COMMITMENT TO TRANSPARENCY.

EACH OF THESE REQUESTS WAS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE WHEN IT WAS RECEIVED.

AND WE HAVE RECENTLY PUSHED OUT INFORMATION ABOUT THESE REQUESTS VIA PRESS RELEASE AND SOME SOCIAL MEDIA TO TRY AND INCREASE THE RESIDENT'S AWARENESS OF THESE REQUESTS.

AND I'LL NOW GO THROUGH EACH ONE.

THE FIRST REQUEST INVOLVED THAT CHANGE TO THE BOUNDARY.

THE REQUEST WAS ACTUALLY THAT THE HOMES AND THE KINLOCK SUBDIVISION AND AROUND THE HERMITAGE COUNTRY CLUB BE INCLUDED IN THE SAME DISTRICT, EITHER IN DISTRICT FOUR ORANGE DISTRICT FIVE, BECAUSE THE REQUESTS OR BELIEVED THAT IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED A COMMUNITY, THERE WAS A COMMONALITY OF INTEREST.

LET ME START BY ORIENTING YOU FIRST TO THAT BOAR, AS IT EXISTS IN THE PROPOSED RIDDICK DISTRICT MAP KINLOCK IS LOCATED IN DISTRICT FOUR.

IN FACT, THE REDISTRICTING TEAM HAD TO MOVE A FEW CENSUS BLOCKS BECAUSE THE FORMER BOUNDARY SPLIT CAN WALK.

AND OF COURSE, IN ORDER TO KEEP SUBDIVISIONS IN THE SAME DISTRICT AS WAS THE ONE OF THE CRITERIA AS YOU GAVE US, WE MOVED KINLOCK.

SO IT WOULD ALL BE IN THE SAME DISTRICT.

SO KIM LOCK IS LOCATED ROUGHLY HERE AND THE HERMITAGE COUNTRY CLUB IS ESSENTIALLY RIGHT.

THEIR UNDERWEAR TO BE PRECINCT FORWARD TO LABEL IS SO WITH THAT ORIENTATION, LET ME GO BACK TO WHAT THE REQUEST WAS.

IT WAS TO PUT THEM IN THE SAME DISTRICT NOW, BECAUSE WE HAD PUBLISHED THIS REQUEST ACTUALLY AT ONE OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WE HAD TWO RESIDENTS EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUESTED CHANGE, AND THEN THE TEAM EVALUATED THIS AND TRIED SEVERAL DIFFERENT VERSIONS TO CHANGE THE BORDER AS REQUESTED NEITHER ONE OF THE OPTIONS.

WE TRIED CREATED A DISTRICT THAT WOULD MEET THE PLUS OR MINUS 5% LEGAL STANDARD OF POPULATION, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MOVE.

AS YOU REMEMBER, CENSUS BLOCKS, WE DON'T GET TO CHOOSE WHERE TO, TO, UH, PUT THE LINE AND BECAUSE WE HAD TO KEEP THE SUBDIVISIONS TOGETHER, BUT I DO HAVE FOR YOU, THE VISUAL REPRESENTATIONS OF WHAT WE TRIED TO DO, THIS WAS MOVING EVERYTHING INTO DISTRICT FOUR.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DEVIATIONS THERE AND FOUR AND FIVE DO NOT MEET THE LEGAL STANDARD OF PLUS OR MINUS 5%.

AND WE ALSO TRIED TO PUT BOTH AREAS IN DISTRICT FIVE, WHICH RESULTED IN EVEN WORSE DEVIATIONS FROM THE LEGAL STANDARD OF PLUS OR MINUS 5%.

SO THE STAFF ANALYZED THIS AND WAS UNABLE TO COME WITH A LEGALLY ACCEPTABLE CHANGE TO THE MAP FOR YOU TO CONSIDER.

AND SO THE BOARD CAN'T LEGALLY CONSIDER THIS CHANGE AS WE HAVE PRESENTED IT.

SO LET'S MOVE ON TO THE SECOND REQUEST, WHICH WAS FOR A THIRD PRECINCT TO BE CREATED IN DISTRICT FOUR.

THIS REQUEST ENDED UP BEING VOTED ON UNANIMOUSLY BY THE ELECTORAL BOARD TO SUPPORT THIS REVISION.

LET ME START AGAIN BY, UH, ORIENTING YOU HERE IS DISTRICT FOUR SHOWING THE TWO PRECINCTS WITH THE 4 0 1 ON THE LEFT AND THE DARKER SHADE AND 4 0 2 ON THE RIGHT.

AND AS YOU MAY RECALL, OF COURSE, THAT GREEN LINE DOWN THE CENTER IS THE STATE, UH, HOUSE OF DELEGATES BOUNDARY BETWEEN 56 AND 57.

AND BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE VOTERS IN THE SAME PRECINCT VOTE FOR DIFFERENT

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REPRESENTATIVES OF THE HOUSE OF DELEGATES.

WE USE THAT GREEN LINE AS OUR PRECINCT BOUNDARY THAT DID RESULT IN A PRECINCT FOR TWO BEING THE LARGEST PRECINCT IN THE COUNTY BY FAR.

AND IT HAS 3,134 REGISTERED VOTERS.

ACCORDING TO OUR DATA, I'LL REMIND YOU THAT THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR PRECINCTS AT THE TIME YOU CREATE THEM IS ANYWHERE FROM 100 TO 5,000 REGISTERED VOTERS.

SO IT'S A LEGAL PRECINCT, BUT UNDER STATE LAW, WHEN YOU HAVE MORE THAN 4,000 REGISTERED VOTERS VOTE IN ANY PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IN THAT IN A PRECINCT, YOU ARE THEN LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO CREATE A NEW PRECINCT WITHIN SIX MONTHS.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE LEGAL STANDARDS SHE SHOULD BE AWARE OF AS YOU CONSIDER THIS REQUEST FOR A PRECINCT, OUR GENERAL REGISTRAR, RYAN MULLIGAN, WHO'S PART OF THE REDISTRICTING TEAM.

AND HERE THIS EVENING TOLD THE REST OF THE TEAM THAT THE GOOCHLAND ELECTORAL BOARD TODAY CONSIDERS ADOPTING A NEW PRECINCT WHENEVER THEY HAVE MORE THAN 3000 REGISTERED VOTERS IN AN, IN A PRECINCT.

SO WE ACTUALLY ARE CREATING A PRECINCT, WHICH ALREADY IS MORE THAN WHAT THEY WOULD TYPICALLY ASK FOR IN ANY PRECINCT TO THE POINT WHERE THEY WOULD ASK FOR A NEW ONE.

LET ME GO BACK TO THE CHANGE THAT WAS REQUESTED BECAUSE THE ELECTORAL BOARDS, UH, SUBMITTED A NUMBER OF REASONS IN SUPPORT OF ITS REQUEST FOR THE CHANGE, THE LARGE NUMBER OF REGISTERED VOTERS, THAT THERE IS A GOOD BIT OF SIGNIFICANT GROWTH ANTICIPATED IN PRECINCT 4 0 2.

IT STATED THAT ADDING A PRECINCT INCREASES THE ELECTION COSTS AND THE ELECTORAL BOARD WANTED TO GET THE NEW PRECINCT BEFORE THE COUNTY.

SO YOU COULD CONSIDER THOSE COSTS OF ADDITIONAL PRECINCT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

AND I WILL GO THROUGH THE COSTS.

UM, DURING THE PRESENTATION, THE REQUESTS ARE ALSO SAID THAT IF A THIRD PRECINCT IS CREATED, NOW, YOUR VOTERS WILL BE NOTIFIED IN THAT JUNE NOTIFICATION, IT'S GOING OUT TO EVERY VOTER.

AND SO YOU WOULD SAVE MONEY IF IN TERMS OF SENDING THAT NOTICE LATER, THE ACTUAL BOARD BELIEVED THAT ADDING A PRECINCT NOW WILL ALLEVIATE VOTER CONFUSION AND MISDIRECTION THAT COULD OCCUR.

IF YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP AND THEN CREATE A PRECINCT SHORTLY THEREAFTER, MAKING ANOTHER CHANGE.

AND FINALLY, THE ELECTRICAL BOARD STATED THAT THIS THIRD PRECINCT NEEDS TO BE UP AND RUNNING AND ITS OPINION, NOT LATER THAN 2023.

SO, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO CREATE A PROPOSED MAP THAT WOULD, UH, ALLOW YOU TO MAKE THE CHANGE REQUESTED FOR PRECINCT 4 0 3 PURSUANT TO THIS MAP, PRECINCT FOUR, A TWO HAS BEEN SPLIT AND YOU CAN SEE ANOTHER THREE DIFFERENT COLORS.

PRECINCT FOUR TWO WOULD HAVE 1,084 VOTERS REGISTERED VOTERS AND IT'S PULLING PLACE REMAINS THE ST MATTHEW'S CHURCH.

AND THIS NEW PRECINCT 4 0 3 IN THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND SIDE WOULD HAVE 2050 REGISTERED VOTERS.

THERE IS NO SUITABLE LOCATION IN THIS PROPOSED PRECINCT 4 0 3 FOR A POLLING PLACE.

AND SO ACTUALLY A PART OF THE ELECTORAL BOARD'S REQUEST WAS TO YOU SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH, RIGHT HERE AS THE PROPOSED POLLING PLACE FOR THIS NEW PRECINCT SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH, WHILE LOCATED IN PRECINCT 4 0 1 IS WITHIN ONE MILE OF THE PRECINCT BOUNDARY.

AND THAT'S THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR THE LOCATION OF A PRECINCT.

SO AGAIN, IT IS LEGAL UNDER STATE LAW TO PUT IT THERE.

THE TEAM WENT THROUGH AN EVALUATION OF THIS CHANGE REQUESTS AND HAS THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER? THERE ARE ALREADY A SIGNIFICANT GROWTH ANTICIPATED IN PRECINCT FOUR, TWO INCLUDES ALREADY APPROVED PROJECTS INCLUDES OVER 2000 ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE PENDING APPLICATIONS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.

NOW FOR MARKWELL EAGLE DEVELOPMENTS OUT AT THE HENRICO BORDER, OR, UM, ADDING TO A READER'S BRANCH UNDER THE REQUEST.

IT DOES DIVIDE THAT FUTURE GROWTH BETWEEN 4 0 2 AND THE NEW PROPOSED 4 0 3 WITH 4 0 2 RETAINING, UH, JUST OVER 1600 NEW RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED, NOT YET BUILT, BUT AT LEAST GONE THROUGH APPROVAL AND PROPOSED PRESENT FOR THREE, HAVING ABOUT 650 OF THOSE APPROVED RESIDENTIAL UNITS.

BUT THERE IS NO POLLING PLACE IN PRECINCT FOUR, THREE.

AND THE LACK OF THAT IS OF CONCERN TO THE TEAM.

WHILE THE ELECTORAL BOARD BELIEVES THAT CREATING A PRECINCT FOUR OR THREE NOW ALLEVIATES VOTER CONFUSION.

THE TEAM FELT THAT THE VOTERS WILL BE CONFUSED BY HAVING TO TRAVEL OUTSIDE OF THEIR PRECINCT TO GET TO VOTE.

AND IF YOU NOTICE IT IS FAIRLY DISTANT, ESPECIALLY FOR UP HAND, SORRY, WHEREVER HERE IS PART OF PRECINCT, UM, EXCUSE ME, WAY DOWN.

HERE'S PART

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OF 4 0 3, UH, THE APARTMENTS THERE 398 VOTERS THERE, AND THERE'LL BE GOING ALL THE WAY UP HERE TO SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH.

SO THAT IS A DISTANT, UH, POLLING PLACE FOR THEM.

THE OTHER THING THAT WE THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER OR WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER IS THAT THE WEST CREEK FIRE STATION IS PLANNED TO BE CONSTRUCTED IN PRECINCT 4 0 3, AND IT WILL BE INAPPROPRIATE FUTURE POLLING PLACE.

CONSTRUCTION SHOULD BE AGAIN EITHER NEXT YEAR OR IN THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, DEPENDING UPON YOUR ACTION ON YOUR CIP.

UM, SO YOU CAN ADD, UH, PRECINCT FOUR OR THREE IN THE FUTURE.

AND I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ADDING A PRECINCT ACTUALLY CAN BE DONE PROCESS WISE WITH JUST A PUBLIC NOTICE AND A HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD, LIKE ANY OTHER COUNTY ORDINANCE CHANGE.

IT IS NOT ONE OF THE ACTIONS THAT HAS TO GO THROUGH THIS SLIGHTLY HARDER PROCESS UNDER THE VIRGINIA VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

IN FACT, CREATING 4 0 3 NOW, AND THEN LATER MOVING THE POLLING PLACES IS AN ACTION THAT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL PUBLICATION OF A PUBLIC NOTICE AND COMMENTS OR AIG APPROVAL.

SO THAT'S JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME IDEA OF THE TWO DIFFERENCES IN PROCESS, BUT THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT THE COSTS OF THE ADDITIONAL PRECINCT.

THIS INCLUDES THE START-UP COSTS BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN ADDITIONAL VOTING MACHINES, SCANNERS, LAPTOPS, AND SOME EQUIPMENT, AND THEN ANNUAL COSTS FOR MAINTENANCE AND LICENSING.

AND THEN THAT PER ELECTION COSTS CAN, YOU COULD HAVE ANYWHERE FROM ONE ELECTION A YEAR, THE GENERAL ELECTION IN NOVEMBER, YOU COULD ALSO HAVE A JUNE PRIMARY AND THEN YOURS WERE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.

YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A MARCH PRIMARY.

SO WHEN I TOTALED THE COST FOR YOU THERE UNDER THE TOTAL ANNUAL ELECTION, THAT'S ANYWHERE FROM ONE ELECTION PER YEAR, UP TO THREE ELECTIONS PER YEAR RESULTS IN THOSE COSTS, BUT THE GENERAL REGISTRAR ON OUR REDISTRICTING TEAM, WE ALSO WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL COSTS, EVEN IF YOU DO NOT CREATE A THIRD PRECINCT TODAY.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THE GENERAL REGISTRAR WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WITH A PRECINCT OF THIS SIZE, HE MAY NEED AN ADDITIONAL A POLLING MACHINE JUST AT THE DISTRICT PRINCE, EXCUSE ME, PRECINCT 4 0 2 AT THAT POLLING PLACE BASED ON CHANGES IN THE ELECTION LAW DATING BACK TO 2020, THERE'VE BEEN A LOT OF NO EXCUSE ABSENTEE VOTERS IN THE PAST TWO YEARS THAT HAVE VOTED NOT IN PERSON AT THEIR PRECINCTS ON ELECTION DAY, BUT 57% IN THE GENERAL ELECTION OF 2020 VOTED BY MAIL OR EARLY VOTING.

AND IN 2021 32% VOTED ABSENTEE AT THE POPULARITY AND AVAILABILITY OF ABSENTEE VOTING HAS SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED THE NUMBERS OF VOTERS IN PRECINCTS ON ELECTION DAY.

BUT IF THAT CHANGES EITHER THROUGH LEGISLATION AT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OR JUST VOTER BEHAVIOR, UM, IF MORE PEOPLE THEN RETURN TO THE PRECINCTS ON ELECTION DAY, THE GENERAL REGISTRAR WOULD BE ASKING YOU FOR AN ADDITIONAL POLLING MACHINE AT PRECINCT FOUR, A TWO.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU THAT COST COMPARISON, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE TOP IS IF YOU WERE TO ADD A THIRD PRECINCT TODAY, THOSE COSTS, BUT THE COST BELOW WOULD BE TO ADD A POLAND PLACE IF NEEDED AN ADDITIONAL, EXCUSE ME, PULLING MACHINE IN PRECINCT FOUR, TWO.

I WILL NOTE THOUGH, IF YOU WERE TO INCUR THE COST OF THAT ADDITIONAL POLLING MACHINE DOWN BELOW, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO USE THAT POLLING MACHINE IN THE FUTURE AT A PRECINCT FOR THE THREE, SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO CREATE IT? SO THAT WOULD DECREASE THE UPFRONT COSTS OF A THIRD PRECINCT IN THE FUTURE.

THAT IS THEN A RECAP OF CHANGE REQUESTS, NUMBER TWO, WHICH THERE IS A LEGALLY ACCEPTABLE WAY TO CREATE.

THAT'S WHY STAFF PRESENTED IT TO YOU TOGETHER WITH ITS EVALUATION.

I AM ASKING IF THE BOARD WILL CONSIDER AND VOTE ON THIS AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, UM, AND I'LL MOVE THROUGH THE ONE OTHER REQUEST.

MA'AM, I'LL TELL YOU IS WE DO ONE SORT OF LIVE DON'T GET THE, OKAY.

SO, UM, YOU DID ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT THE ABSENTEE VOTES.

AND I THINK BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE CALCULATE, UH, THE ABSENTEE VOTERS IN THE CAP PRECINCT, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY VOTERS IN FOUR ACTUALLY VOTED ABSENTEE OR IN PERSON, I GUESS MAYBE WE DO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY SHOWED UP.

AND, YOU KNOW, WISELY DIRECTING THAT QUESTION TO OUR GENERAL REGISTRAR, RYAN MULLIGAN, WHO'S HERE.

PROBABLY A QUESTIONS ARE FOR YOU.

IF YOU DON'T MIND GET YOU TO COME UP.

I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER IN WHICH ELECTION.

I MEAN, JUST NOD YOUR HEADS, NOT GONNA NOW.

SO, UM, SO DO YOU REALLY KNOW HOW MANY, AND I KNOW THE BOUNDARIES HAVE CHANGED.

THIS IS NOT EXACTLY APPLES TO APPLES, BUT HOW MANY VOTERS VOTED IN PERSON IN PRECINCT FOUR? WELL, ME DISTRICT FOUR,

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UM, LET'S JUST DO THE MOST RECENT, UM, I CAN GET YOU THOSE NUMBERS.

I DON'T HAVE THOSE.

I THINK I MEANT THAT, THAT MOMENT BEFORE I GET IT.

I FORGOT.

SO I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT LET ME JUST STICK WITH THE, UM, SO IF WE, THAT'S ACTUALLY A QUESTION FOR MR. MCGEE AS WELL, I'M I'M RIGHT HERE.

YOU CAN GO BACK AND FORTH, RIGHT.

AND I KNOW HOW TO SHARE.

OH, OKAY.

SO IF WE WERE TO, UH, IS IT KIND OF LIKE WE CAN, UM, DESIGNATE 4 0 3 BUT NOT APPROPRIATE IT NOW? I MEAN, IN OTHER WORDS, APPROVE IT, SAY YES, AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO NEED IT, BUT NOT APPROVE IT TILL A LATER TIME.

OR IT JUST, IT DOES GO INTO EFFECT AS SOON AS WE APPROVE IT.

SAM, IF YOU CHOOSE TO THE QUESTION FOR YOU TO VOTE ON TONIGHT IS EITHER TO CHANGE THE PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP 4, 4, 3, OR NOT.

UM, BECAUSE WE'RE W WHEN THE ORDINANCE FOLLOWS THIS AND IT LAYS OUT THE BOUNDARIES AND SO FORTH, WHILE THE BOARD COULD INDICATE THROUGH DISCUSSION WHAT ITS INTENTIONS ARE, THERE, ISN'T A WAY FOR US.

I DON'T SEE IT PERCEIVE A WAY FOR YOU TO LEGALLY SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THIS TODAY, BUT WE PROMISE TO DO IT IN THE FUTURE.

I WAS JUST KIND OF LIKE APPROPRIATING IT.

AND ACTUALLY I, SO THE BOUNDARY SALEM CHURCH, YOU SAID IT'S ONE MILE FROM THE BOUNDARY IT'S WITHIN A MILE WITHOUT A BOW.

WITHIN A MILE OF THAT ONE BOUNDARY, BUT IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH, LIKE YOU SAID, AS FAR.

SO THAT'S THE ONLY CRITERIA.

IT HAS TO BE ONE MILE FROM THE CLOSEST BOUNDARY.

UH, SO IT HAS TO BE IN THE PRECINCT OR WITHIN A MILE OF THE PRECINCT.

LIKE IT, IT CANNOT BE WITHIN THE PRECINCT ITSELF, BUT IF IT ISN'T, IT HAS TO BE WITHIN ONE MILE.

SO WE FOUND A SPACE ON THE BOUNDARY THAT IT WAS WITHIN A MILE OF IT.

AND THERE ARE OTHER CRITERIA FOR POLLING PLACES, BUT NOT THAT REALLY COME INTO PLAY.

YOU KNOW, THAT PLACE THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC GOVERNMENT.

BUILDINGS ARE PREFERRED, BUT PROBABLY THOSE THINGS ARE NOT CRITERIA YOU NEED TO CONSIDER FOR, FOR THIS SITUATION.

THE TEAM CERTAINLY DID SPEND A LONG TIME TRYING TO COME UP WITH ANY PLACE IN THIS PROPOSED FOR THREE, TO BE A POLLING PLACE.

AND THERE, THERE JUST DIDN'T COME UP WITH ANYTHING IN EXISTENCE THAT WOULD WORK.

SO WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ACTUAL VOTERS VOTED IN PERSON IN THE PRECINCT.

I MEAN, I COULD LOOK THAT UP FAIRLY QUICK.

I MEAN, CAUSE IF IT'S A THOUSAND, THEN WHY ARE WE SETTING? HE SEES IT, IT PLAYS INTO THE DECISION.

I LOOKED IT UP ON DISTRICT FOUR, SHALLOW, WELL AND CENTERVILLE COMBINED 2,161.

AND THAT'S NOVEMBER 21, NOVEMBER 21 ELECTION.

SO TOTAL OF 2020 1 61, WHEN THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO INDICATE WE NEED ANOTHER PRECINCT.

UM, YOU SAID THAT WAS BETWEEN 4 0 1 IN FOUR, ONE IN 402.

BECAUSE YEAH, THAT WOULD BE EVEN LESS.

CAUSE WE'RE ONLY TAUGHT WE'RE ONLY, AND THOSE WILL BE SPLIT BETWEEN TWO.

I MEAN, I WANNA, I WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS WHAT YOU NEED.

I MEAN, IF WE NEED A POINT PLACE, WE NEED A PHONE PLACE.

UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO DECIDE IF IT'S, IT MAKES SENSE TO DO IT.

THAT'S ALL I UNDERSTOOD.

AND I THINK MY OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, SO WE SAID THAT WE WERE BURNING TO NOTIFY ALL VOTERS.

ONCE THIS IS SET WHEREVER WE DO NOTIFY ALL REALMS, EVEN THOSE WHO DO NOT CHANGE.

UH, SO BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE STATE CHANGING THEIR MIND, WE'RE THE ALL OF GOOCHLAND COUNTY IS GOING FROM THE SEVENTH CONGRESSIONAL TO THE FIFTH CONGRESSIONAL.

SO EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GET A, OKAY.

SO EVERYBODY WILL BE NOTIFIED, PRECINCT, POLLING, LOCATION DISTRICTS, LIKE DISTRICTS THEY'RE IN.

THAT MAKES SENSE.

UM, YEAH.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND, UM, WE'RE SAYING THAT IF WE SEND IT IT TO THE DISTRICT FOR VOTERS, NOW IT COULD BE CONFUSING IF WE DON'T DO IT TO SO WE COULD APPROVE IT, BUT NOT, NOT SET IT UP UNTIL 2023.

I THINK WHAT THAT WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS THERE'LL BE CONFUSED ON THE SLIDE.

SO THAT DOESN'T, THAT DOESN'T COUNT.

THAT WAS ON THE SLIDE.

I THINK, OF THE ELECTORAL BOARD REQUEST.

AH, PUT IT IN THERE.

THERE WAS A REQUEST.

SO I PUT IT UP FOR YOU.

THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS.

AT SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH AND THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, CHANGE IT.

WHAT ARE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS, MR. SHARP? I JUST THINK IT'S CONFUSING TO TELL PEOPLE I'M GOING TO VOTE

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HAVING WORKED AS AN ELECTION OFFICIAL FOR EIGHT OR 10 YEARS, UM, ONCE AT DOVER BAPTIST, WHEN THEY ADDED BLAIR ROAD.

AND THEN WHEN THEY SPLIT ST MATTHEW'S AND ADDED CHINESE BAPTIST CHURCH, PEOPLE GET THESE ENVELOPES IN THE MAIL WITH THEIR NEW CARDS AND SOMEHOW THEY MAGICALLY NEVER GET OPENED.

AND BEING SOMEONE WHO HAD THE IRE OF A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME IN AND SAID, WELL, YOU DON'T VOTE HERE ANYMORE.

YOU VOTE AT BLAIR ROAD NOW, OR YOU VOTE, UM, AT THE CHINESE BAPTIST CHURCH, IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR THE POLL WORKERS OR THE ELECTION OFFICIALS BECAUSE PEOPLE GET ABSOLUTELY UGLY AND RAN EVEN BY THE TIME THEY LEAVE.

YOU'RE HAPPY FOR THEM.

UM, I MEAN IT JUST, UH, IT'S INCREDIBLE TO ME TO SET UP A, UH, A THIRD LOCATION NOW AND THEN CHANGE IT IN A YEAR AND A HALF WHEN SOMETHING MAGICALLY BECOMES, IF THERE'S ONLY 2000, 2100 PEOPLE VOTING TATTOO LOCATIONS AND THEN IN TWO OR THREE YEARS, BECAUSE ONCE AVERY COMES ON, THAT'S 1800 VOTERS THAT ARE COMING IN.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ADD MORE DISTRICTS BEFORE THE NEXT.

SO I WOULD SAY IF THERE'S ONLY 2100, IT JUST MAKES TO ME MAKES SENSE.

LIVE IT THE WAY IT IS AND PICK IT UP LATER WHEN WE CAN FIND SOMETHING INSIDE FOR THREE.

CAN YOU SURE MR. PETERSON'S HERE, IF HE COULD PULL UP THE PROPOSED REGISTRY MAP, BUT IF THINK SLIDE FIVE, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, HERE WE GO.

UM, I DIDN'T KNOW.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO ASK QUESTIONS AS WE WENT ALONG.

I ONLY REMIND FOR THE END AND IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A QUESTION, ANYTHING.

UM, ONE OF THE GOALS WAS TO MAKE IT LOOK COMPACT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE DISTRICT FIVE, YOU SEE A KIND OF A 10 INCURSION INCURSION, AND THEN YOU SEE, WELL, IT'S AN A LEFT, UH, KIND OF TAIL OF THE DISTRIBUTION HERE ON THE .

AND THIS IS MORE OF A COMMENT BECAUSE THAT GREEN LINE THAT EXTENDS OUT TO THE TAIL IT'S UNDER STATE LAW.

WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REDISTRICT THAT TAIL AND CREATE A SPLIT PRECINCT BECAUSE THE STATE BOUNDARY.

SO WE REALLY CAN'T BRING THAT.

WE CAN'T REALLY MAKE IT MORE COMPACT BY BRINGING THE WESTERN PORTION IN, WHICH WOULD THEN ENABLE US.

OBVIOUSLY IT'D TAKE THAT INCURSION OUT, BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT AND STILL COMPLY WITH STATE LAWS.

THAT FAIR THAT'S CORRECT.

IN FACT, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS I'VE HEARD THAT RESIDENTS HAVE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE UP-DOWN OF THAT LINE SAYING, OH MY GOODNESS, THAT'S CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, UH, GERRYMANDERING.

AND IN FACT, IT'S CENSUS BLOCK BOUNDARIES THAT WE DIDN'T PICK, BUT YES, SIR, BECAUSE THAT IS THE STATE, UM, HOUSE OF DELEGATES LINE.

UM, WE ARE FOLLOWING IT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL VOTERS WITHIN A PRECINCT VOTE FOR THE STATE, SAME STATE HOUSE OF DELEGATES CANDIDATE, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY LAW.

I WILL SAY THAT TAN INCURSION IS BECAUSE WE UNDER THE IDEA OF KEEPING ALL SUBDIVISIONS TOGETHER THAT KEEPS KINLOCH TOGETHER BECAUSE THE PRIOR, UH, BOUNDARY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THIS GRAY LINE HERE SHOWS YOU THE PRIOR BOUNDARY, IT HAS KINLOCH HAS BUILT OUT IT SPLIT KINLOCH SUBDIVISION INTO TWO DISTRICTS.

YEAH, GOOD.

ENCOURAGING.

USED TO BE IN FIVE.

AND IN ORDER TO KEEP ALL THE KIN NOT TOGETHER, YOU'D NEED TO ADDRESS THE WESTERN BOUNDARY AND MAKE IT MORE COMPACT AND KEEP THE COMMUNITIES TOGETHER, BUT CAN NO CAN'T DO BECAUSE OF STATE PROBLEMS. THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THAT'S, AGAIN, MORE OF A COMMENT THAN A, JUST IN CASE CITIZENS WERE FOLLOWING THIS EITHER HERE OR AT HOME SAYING WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE THAT MORE COMPACT? I DON'T THINK WE CAN.

OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THIS UPFRONT.

THIS IS WHY I'M BRINGING IT UP NOW, BUT THERE'S NO WAY TO ADDRESS THAT AND STILL COMPLY WITH THAT'S CORRECT.

THERE'S NOT, WE LOOKED AT, THERE'S NOT INSUFFICIENT, UM, REGISTERED VOTERS IN THAT REGION OF THE WESTERN PART OF DISTRICT FIVE TO CREATE A PRE A WHOLE PRECINCT, UM, AND CHANGE THE, UH, STATE IT, YOU KNOW, AND STILL AROUND THE STATE HOUSE OF DELEGATES LINE.

QUESTIONS ON CHANGE REQUEST.

NUMBER TWO, IF NOT MISS ME.

OH, I'M SORRY.

I JUST SEE, WE CHOOSE NOT

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TO FORM THIS, UH, THIRD POLLING LOCATION IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT.

WHAT DID YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT LET'S SAY TWO YEARS NOW, OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW, WE REALIZE BECAUSE OF NEW RESIDENCES COMING HERE THAT WE NEED TO DO IT.

DID YOU MAKE A COMMENT THAT IT WOULD BE HARDER, EASIER? OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I'M WONDERING.

TO BE FAIR.

UM, THE CREATION OF A NEW POLLING LOCATION AND CREATING A NEW PRECINCT IS AN EASIER PROCESS THAN MOVING A POLLING PLACE.

SO IF YOU CREATE IT THREE WITH SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH, AND THEN WHEN SOMETHING ELSE BECAME AVAILABLE, YOU WANTED TO MOVE IT.

THERE'S SLIGHTLY MORE PROCESS INVOLVED IN THAT THAN WAITING TO CREATE IT.

SAY WITH A WEST CREEK FIRE STATION THAT'S SLIGHTLY LESS PROCESSED.

I, AGAIN, I DIDN'T WANT TO MAYBE MAKE A DECISION TODAY AND THEN SET US UP FOR A PROBLEM DOWN THE ROAD IF WE COULD POSSIBLY AVOID IT.

MR. SHARP, DID THAT QUESTIONS COME FROM MY TIME? CAUSE I'M ROLLING.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I DIDN'T MOVE WHERE IT'S ONLY JUST ALL.

UM, NEXT THING, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE THIRD REQUEST THAT WE RECEIVED, WHICH INVOLVES CHANGING THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO.

UM, A RESIDENT REQUESTED THAT WE REVISE THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN THESE TWO DISTRICTS AND HERE'S WHERE THE REASONS THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE REQUESTER THAT CARLSVILLE ROAD IS USED IN THE LOWER PART.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE IN A MINUTE, AND AS THE DISTRICT WANT TO DO BOUNDARY, BUT THE REQUESTER STATED THAT THE RESIDENTS OF THIS AREA OF CARTERSVILLE ROAD ARE FAMILY MEMBERS AND THAT THEY ATTEND THE SAME CHURCHES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO INSTEAD THE REQUESTS OR ASKS TO USE RIVER ROAD WEST AS THE DISTRICT ONE DISTRICT TWO BOUNDARY, UH, AND HE FEELS, HE, HE SAID THAT WOULD NOT SPLIT A COMMUNITY INTO ACHIEVE THE APPROPRIATE PO POPULATION.

THE REQUESTER SAID USE BROAD STREET UP ABOVE AS PART OF THE NORTHERN DISTRICT ONE DISTRICT TWO BOUNDARY.

AND I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THIS ON A, ON A MAP.

IN FACT, THE REQUESTER ACTUALLY SENT THE TEAM A MAP SHOWING THE BOUNDARY LINE CHANGE THAT HE WAS REQUESTING BEFORE I SHOW YOU HIS CHANGE.

LET ME START OFF BY SHOWING YOU AS IT IS PROPOSED TODAY.

AND AS I MENTIONED JUST A MINUTE AGO, THERE'S A GRAY LINE THROUGH THIS THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS TODAY'S ELECTION DISTRICT BOUNDARY.

TO THE PROPOSED RE-DISTRICTING MAP.

AND SO WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP IS WE MADE VERY FEW CHANGES TO THE EXISTING BOUNDARY BETWEEN DISTRICT ONE IN DISTRICT TWO, UP HERE IN THE CARTERS, UH, PLAINS ROAD AREA, CEDAR PLAINS, EXCUSE ME, WE MADE A COUPLE OF CHANGES BECAUSE THERE WERE THREE SUBDIVISIONS THAT WERE BEING SPLIT BETWEEN THE TWO DISTRICTS, MEREDITH FARMS, UH, BOWLING, PLAIN PLACE AND RED EYE SUBDIVISION.

AND THEN TO CREATE THE RIGHT, UH, DISTRIBUTION OF POPULATION.

THIS DISTRICT, THE CENSUS BLOCK, EXCUSE ME, WAS MOVED FROM DISTRICT TWO TO DISTRICT ONE.

THE COLORS WERE ROAD AREA THAT THE REQUEST IS TALKING ABOUT IS RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS WHERE CARTERSVILLE ROAD IS THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO.

SO NOW LET ME GO BACK AGAIN TO THE REQUESTED REVISION.

THIS MAP SHOWS THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO BOUNDARY, UH, TO THE, UH, EXCUSE ME FOR THE DISTRICT ONE DISTRICT TWO BOUNDARY WITH AS NOTED RIVER ROAD, FORMING THE DISTRICT BOUNDARY DOWN HERE INSTEAD OF CARTER'S VALE ROAD.

AND THEN IN ORDER TO REACH THE RIGHT POPULATION UP HERE, THERE'S, UH, NORTH OF BROAD STREET HAS BEEN SWITCHED.

THIS PROPOSED MAP DOES CREATE A LEGALLY APPROVABLE A PLAN WHERE DISTRICT ONE HAS 4,943 ADJUSTED POPULATION.

THAT'S A DEVIATION OF PLUS 2.3, 4% FROM OUR TARGET AND DISTRICT TWO HAS 5,021 ADJUSTED POPULATION, A DEVIATION OF PLUS 3.9, 5%.

SO BOTH DISTRICTS WILL BE CREATED WITHIN THE LEGAL STANDARD OF PLUS OR MINUS 5%.

WE NEXT HAVE FOR YOU A COMPARISON OF THE REQUESTERS MAP AND THE PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP.

AND DOWN HERE IN THE LOWER LEFT, THAT HATCHED AREA IS WHERE DISTRICT ONE VOTERS WILL BE MOVED INTO DISTRICT TWO.

THE MIDDLE AREA HERE RIGHT AROUND CEDAR PLAINS ROAD IS WHERE DISTRICT TWO RESIDENTS WOULD BE MOVED INTO DISTRICT ONE.

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AND THEN IF THERE'S A LOT ON THIS MAP, BUT YOU CAN REMEMBER SUBMITTING TO GO THAT GRAY LINE IS THE CURRENT BOUNDARY.

AND ONE OF THE FEW PLACES IT CHANGES IS STILL AT CEDAR PLAINS ROAD.

THE TEAM CREATED AN EVALUATION OF THIS REQUEST FOR YOU.

UM, THIS WAS NOT A REQUEST RECEIVED BY OUR CARTERSVILLE ROAD, UH, RESIDENT.

UM, WE DIDN'T RECEIVE A CONCERN OR REQUEST FROM SOMEONE WHO LIVED IN THAT AREA.

THIS REQUEST DOES CHANGE THE SHAPES OF BOTH DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO IN CONTRAVENTION OF THE APPROVED CRITERIA TO RETAIN DISTRICTS, UH, BASIC SHAPES.

AND THEN THIS REQUEST ALSO MOVES MORE VOTERS THAN THE PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP DOES, WHICH GOES AGAINST THE GOAL WE HAD OF MINIMIZING VOTER DISRUPTION AS ONE OF THOSE APPROVED CRITERIA.

I RESEARCHED THE ELECTRONIC FILES IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND FOUND THAT THAT SECTION OF CARTERSVILLE ROAD HAS BEEN THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT TWO, SINCE AT LEAST THE MAPS THAT WERE ADOPTED AFTER THE 2000 CENSUS THAT'S AS FAR BACK AS OUR ELECTRONIC RECORDS GO.

UH, SO I WAS ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT THAT WAS THE BOUNDARY AFTER THE 2000 CENSUS, AS WELL AS AFTER THE 2010 CENSUS.

UH, ONE CONCERN THAT'S RAISED BY THE PROPOSAL IS THAT THE VOTERS THAT LIVE WAY OUT HERE, EXCUSE ME, NEAR FLUVANNA COUNTY, HAVE QUITE A WAYS TO TRAVEL TO THEIR POLLING PLACE.

AND IN FACT, THEY'D DRIVE SORT OF ESSENTIALLY RIGHT BY THE BIRD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH WILL BE THEIR POLLING PLACE IF THEY REMAIN IN DISTRICT ONE AS IS PROPOSED IN THE PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP.

SO THAT'S THE FINAL PIECE OF THAT WE EVALUATED FOR YOU ABOUT THIS REQUEST.

AND AGAIN, UH, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, UH, MAP, UH, PROPOSAL FOR YOU.

AND I'LL ASK YOU TO VOTE ON IT JUST AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS I'M SURE.

SHARP.

WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF COMMUNITY? WELL, UM, STATE LAW HAS SOMETHING CALLED COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST AND IT'S DEFINED AS PLACES.

UM, AND I'M NOT GOING TO REMEMBER ALL THE CRITERIA, BUT THAT HAVE A COMMONALITY.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ALMOST EVERY REDISTRICTING HAVE HAD THAT DEFINITION, BUT I HAVEN'T, I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S YOU IN FRONT OF ME TODAY.

UH, IT'S CALLED A COMMUNITY OF INTEREST.

IT HAS A COMMONALITY IN, IT'S NOT BELIEFS.

I'M NOT GOING TO REMEMBER EXACTLY.

UM, AND WHEN A REDISTRICTING TEAM PRESENTED TO YOU, WE MADE A POINT OF SAYING WE ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME BEING ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHO IS, SAY A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A COMMUNITY.

UM, WE DON'T LIVE OUT THERE.

THAT'S WHY WE ASKED TO USE THE OBJECTIVE CRITERIA OF SUBDIVISIONS BECAUSE SUBDIVISION PLATS ARE RECORDED.

IN FACT, THEY'RE SHOWN ON OUR MAPS.

SO WE ASKED FOR THAT, UH, S UH, OBJECTIVE CRITERIA TO USE, BUT IT DOES MAKE IT A LONGER DRIVE, WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT VOTING FRIENDLY WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO GET, MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE.

YES, THE GENERAL REGISTRAR POINTED OUT TO US THAT ONE OF THE THINGS HE HEARS THE MOST COMPLAINTS ABOUT FROM VOTERS IS IF THEY HAVE TO DRIVE BY ONE VOTING PLACE, THAT'S CLOSER TO THEM IN ORDER TO GET TO WHERE THEY HAVE TO VOTE.

I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST FREQUENT COMPLAINTS COMPLAINTS THAT RYAN HEARS.

HE TOLD US IF THAT OCCURS.

HMM.

I JUST, I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN THAT AREA IS TRYING TO CHANGE A DISTRICT FOR WHICH DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM.

IT JUST LOOKS FUNNY TO ME.

I MISSED SHARP MISS LAST BIT.

UM, SHE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

THE ONLY LAST THREE SLIDES I HAVE DIRECT YOU THROUGH.

I LIKE TO ANSWER THEM BEFORE THEY EVEN ASKED.

AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE REST OF MY PRESENTATION IS BRIEF.

THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF REDISTRICTING PROCESS LEFT.

SO LET ME GO THROUGH THAT.

IF THE BOARD WERE TO VOTE TONIGHT TO MAKE EITHER THE CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED DISTRICT BEING MAPPED, WE WOULD BE POSTING REVISED REDISTRICTING MAP AS SOON AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT FOR 15 DAYS.

AND THAT'S TO COMPLY WITH THE VIRGINIA VOTING RIGHTS ACT.

UM, WE'RE RIGHT AT THE VERY END OF TODAY, ASKING YOU TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MARCH 15TH AT 6:00 PM FOR THE FINAL REDISTRICTING MAP AND ORDINANCE TO BE ADOPTED THE MAP AND ORDINANCE BECOME EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS AFTER ADOPTION.

AND THE GENERAL REGISTRAR HAS SAID THAT HE WOULD SEND OUT VOTING INFORMATION NOTICES TO ALL COUNTY RESIDENTS BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANGE, UM, NOT LATER THAN JUNE 6TH.

AND THIS IS FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE IF THE QUESTIONS WERE COMING EARLIER, BUT

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UM, SO THROUGH MOTIONS, UH, TO VOTE ON.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE MR. PETERSON, JUST THE VERY LAST THING IS THAT THIS BECOMES EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS AFTER ADOPTION, WHICH WOULD BE APRIL 15TH, TEXTING AND THEN NOTICES ARE GOING OUT IN, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE SPRING PRIMARIES? NOT AT ALL.

MAYBE ALLOW THE GENERAL REGISTRAR TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE A TRICK QUESTION.

JUST CURIOUS.

SO WE'RE NOT SURE IF WE'LL HAVE A JUNE PRIMARY THIS YEAR.

PROBABLY NOT.

UM, SO THE JUNE 6TH IS DEFINITELY AT LEAST BY JUNE 6TH, IF WE DO HAVE A PRIMARY, HOPEFULLY I'LL BE ABLE TO GET THEM OUT BEFORE PEOPLE START VOTING.

I MEAN, THAT WAS REALLY, MY QUESTION WAS, MAKE SURE WE GET THESE NOTICES OUT IN TIME FOR PEOPLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO, AND IF THEY DON'T NEED TO DO ANYTHING, THEN SPRAYING, THAT'S ONE THING IF THEY DO NEED TO, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE RAMP UP OPERATIONS TO GET THEM OUT.

UM, BY MAY 6TH, I THINK IS WHEN ABSENTEE VOTING STARTS.

IF WE DO HAVE A PRIMARY IT'S POSSIBLE.

SO WE'RE NOT WAITING FROM APRIL 15TH TO JUNE 1ST, IF THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING IN MAY.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

SO, UM, TO BE FAIR, I DON'T, I KNOW THAT RYAN WON'T BE WAITING.

I'M JUST NOT SURE WHEN THE ELECTORAL BOARD WILL ALLOW HIM ACCESS TO INPUT INFORMATION, IT MIGHT, THEY MAY ALLOW IT WHEN YOU APPROVE IT MARCH 15TH.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD MAKE HIM WAIT UNTIL THE APRIL 15TH DATE.

THAT'S JUST NOT THAT'S OUT OF RYAN'S HANDS.

TO BE FAIR.

YOU DID SAY NO LATER THEN, SO I SUPPOSED TO KNOW EARLIER THAN SO I THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANKS.

WE DO NOT HAVE, UM, CITIZEN COUNTING PERIOD ON THIS, BUT WE, THIS WHOLE PROCESS HAS BEEN ABOUT TRANSPARENCY AND GETTING FEEDBACK.

SO IF THERE, I THINK I ONLY RIGHT, THAT WE DO HAVE SOME, SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE COME TO VISIT US TONIGHT.

SO, UM, IF, IF PEOPLE DID HAVE, UH, SOME COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE, I'D LOVE TO HEAR.

BIRD DOGS, DISCUSSIONS, MOTIONS.

WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE.

UM, AND SO I'VE LAID THEM OUT ON SLIDES.

I THINK THEY'RE ALSO AVAILABLE TO YOU IN YOUR, UM, PREP SHEET FROM THE, UH, UH, PACKET THAT WAS CREATED, PLEASE DON'T DEFER, TITLED TO YOU'VE HEARD THE TIMING.

SO, SO JUST TO BE SURE, I'M SURE YOU GRAB ALL THIS, BUT JUST A MO A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE APPROVING, THE REQUESTED CHANGE OR EMOTION TO DENY WOULD BE STAYING TO THE ORIGINAL.

I MOVED THAT W THE BOARD DENY, REVISING THE PROPOSED REDISTRICT MAP TO INCLUDE PRECINCT FOUR, THREE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NO DOUBT.

THAT'S HELPFUL FOR YOUR COLLEAGUES FOR ME.

UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND START AND, UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION AFTER BRIEF COMMENT.

SO CHANGE REQUEST.

ONE IS NOT ON THE, ON THE LIST OF MOTIONS BECAUSE OUR TEAM COULDN'T FIND A WAY TO GET IT TO THE FIFTH.

SO THAT'S OFF THE TABLE.

TREAT ODD REQUEST.

NUMBER TWO, DISTRICT THREE, INDUSTRY FOUR, BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM, UH, MS. LAST CLIP AND MR. SHARP.

AND MY SENSE WAS IF I HAD HOPED THAT WE WERE, WE WERE, OUR STATE LEGISLATORS WOULD MOVE US AWAY FROM ELECTION SEASON AND BACK TOWARDS ELECTION DAY, THAT WOULD MAYBE CONSIDER THIS MORE OF A CONCERN, BUT WE S WE SAW THE NUMBERS OF EARLY VOTING.

SO I DON'T SEE IT AS THAT PRESSING THAT, UH, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON I SEE IT AT THAT PRESSING, BUT THEN I'D ALSO REPEATING WHAT MR. SHARP SAID.

I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE, IF WE CAN ONLY FIT IN SALEM CHURCH IN 4 0 1 AND FOUR THREES DOWN HERE, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAVEL.

I, I, MY PREFERENCE IS, UH, BUT THIS IS, IS THAT EMOTION.

IT'S AN EMOTION.

IT'S SOME COMMENT, CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF MYSELF AS A PEOPLE.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IF PEOPLE THINK THAT THIS IS BETTER, BUT I DON'T THINK THE THIRD PRECINCT, I'M NOT SEEING IT, BUT I'M WELCOME TO MAKE A MOTION TO GET IT ON THE TABLE, MAN DISCUSSION.

AND THEN FOR THE THIRD REQUEST, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO, UM, WHAT THE, WHAT THE APPLICANT DID.

IT WAS, UH, A LOT OF WORK AND I APPRECIATE THE FOCUS.

THAT'S THE ENGAGEMENT LEVEL WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

I APPRECIATE IT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THAT DISTORTS.

THE, UH, AND AS MCGEE SAID THAT WHEN I LOOK AT IT, IT TAKES US AWAY FROM THE SHAPE, THE IDEA WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP THE SHAPE THAT REALLY DISTORTS IT.

AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY OUT TO, THROUGH FLUVANNA LINE FOR THAT BOTTOM PORTION AND HAS PEOPLE DRIVING RIGHT BY THE SIDE.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT WORKS.

SO I MOVED,

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AND I MOVED THAT THE BOARD DENY.

I THERE'S SECOND.

SO THE MOTION ON THE TABLE HAS BEEN MOVED TO DENY, REVISING THE PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP TO INCLUDE PRECINCT 4 0 3 HAS PRESENTED DISCUSSION.

YOU DON'T WANT ME TO REPEAT MYSELF TO YOU? I DON'T THINK I'M NOT HEARING ANY DISCUSSIONS.

SO I'M GETTING READY TO CALL FOR A ROLL CALL.

VOTE.

READY? I'M CALLING FOR A REAL CALL THOUGH.

LET ME DO IT AS LONG AS COLOR.

MR. PETERSON, MR. JENKINS.

I MOVED AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO NOT THE REVISION TO THE PROPOSED REDISTRICT MAP FROM DISTRICT ONE DISTRICT TWO BOUNDARY, AS IT WAS PRESENTED TO US.

THANK YOU, MR. LUMPKINS.

MR. SHARP AND DISCUSSION.

CHAIRMAN'S BOOM POWER.