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GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WELCOME
[I. Call to Order]
TO OUR MEETING.I HEAR BY CALL TO ORDER THE MARCH 1ST BUSINESS MEETING THE GUCCI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, WE WILL BEGIN WITH AN INVOCATION AND, UH, PLEDGE THE FLAG.
UM, MR. LUMPKINS, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF THE FLAG AND MR. SHARPE'S ABSENCE.
ALRIGHT, SO PLEASE, UH, RISE FOR IDENTIFICATION AS ABEL,
[II. Invocation]
DEAR FATHER, GOD, WE JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS DAY, LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY.WE THANK YOU FOR THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE GOD, JUST, WE INVITE YOU HERE TODAY TO GIVE US THE WISDOM THAT WE NEED TO BE GOOD STEWARDS WITH WHAT YOU'VE PROVIDED US.
LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THESE THINGS IN JESUS NAME, AMEN,
[III. Pledge of Allegiance]
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.SO I JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS TO MAKE.
UM, WE WILL BE HAVING OUR, THE GUCCI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS SCHEDULED OUR JOINT TOWN HALL MEETINGS.
UM, AND THEY WILL BE IN MARCH, UH,
[IV. Chair's Comments]
DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE HAVE ON THURSDAY, MARCH 10TH AT SIX 30 AT TUCKAHOE PINES, RETIREMENT, COMMUNITY DISTRICTS, TWO AND THREE TUESDAY, MARCH 22ND AT SIX 30 AT CENTRAL HIGH AND DISTRICT ONE ON THURSDAY, MARCH 31ST AT SIX 30 AT BIRD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.WE REALLY ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO COME OUT AND GET ENGAGED.
THIS ONE WILL BE HEAVILY FOCUSED ON THE, ON THE BUDGET, BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE UPDATES ON BROADBAND AND OTHER THINGS.
UM, AND WHY HAVE, UH, THE TIME I DON'T WANT TO UPSTAGE OUR PRESIDENT THIS EVENING, BUT, UM, I PROBABLY HAVE A LOT BETTER NEWS THAN HE DOES.
AND I THOUGHT I'D JUST TAKE A MINUTE AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE STATE OF THE COUNTY.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE STATE OF OUR COUNTY IS STRONG, IS STRONG BECAUSE WE HAVE ENGAGED CITIZENS.
WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF CITIZENS WHO VOLUNTEERED TO SERVE IN THE COUNTY, WHETHER ON COMMITTEES OR BOARDS, THEY VOLUNTEER, WHETHER IT'S AT THE ADVERT AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER OR PICKING UP TRASH ON THE SIDE OF THE ROADS AND MANY MORE.
WE HAVE THE MOST ENGAGED VOTERS IN THE STATE YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE HAD THE HIGHEST VOTER TURNOUT.
UM, OUR COUNTY IS STRONG BECAUSE OF OUR AMAZING STAFF.
WE HAVE THE HIGHEST CALIBER PROFESSIONALS SERVING THEIR SYSTEMS TIRELESSLY AROUND THE CLOCK AS MR. ALVAREZ NOTED FOR BEING ON THE PHONE WITH ME LAST NIGHT AT 1230.
UM, OUR COUNTY IS STRONG BECAUSE OF OUR DEDICATED, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS AND ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO PUT OUR PEOPLE FIRST AND OUR HEARTS COMMITTED TO SERVICE.
WE'RE STRONG BECAUSE OF OUR SOUND FINANCIAL PRACTICES ON THE TAIL END OF A GLOBAL PANDEMIC.
WE'RE LOOKING TO LOWER PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES, MAKING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN PERSONNEL FOR PUBLIC SAFETY, EDUCATION AND STAFFING TO ENSURE WE MEET THE DEMANDS OF OUR CITIZENS.
HOUSTON IS STRONG, NOT BECAUSE IT SEES ITSELF AS A COUNTY AND A GREAT COMMONWEALTH BECAUSE IT SEES ITSELF AS A COMMUNITY, A COMMUNITY THAT I AM INCREDIBLY PROUD TO BE PART OF.
SO THANK YOU ALL MR. ALVAREZ, BEAT THAT
[V. County Administrator's Comments]
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AND USED TO THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY.SO I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO START WITH AN APOLOGY.
WE HAD A TECHNICAL ISSUE IN THE VIDEO OF THE 6:00 PM SESSION DID NOT GET RECORDED.
UM, SO WE'VE MADE SOME CHANGES AND I THINK WE'LL BE IN MUCH BETTER SHAPE.
SO TONIGHT WE'RE RECORDING THE MEETING THROUGH THE NORMAL, UH, SWAGGART, UH, TOOL, WHICH IS WHAT IS SYNCHRONIZED WITH OUR AGENDA.
WE'RE ALSO RECORDING IT LOCALLY ON A LAPTOP.
AND, UM, WE ARE GOING TO, UM, WE LOGGED INTO THAT LAPTOP AS IF WE WERE A CITIZEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT CITIZENS CAN ACTUALLY SEE, UH, THE, AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO POST IT TO FACEBOOK, TO YOUTUBE, UH, TOMORROW MORNING.
SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO WATCH THE MEETING, THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME INTO OUR WEBSITE, UH, OR THEY JUST NEED TO GET TO YOUTUBE.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I ACTUALLY, I WANT TO REAL, UH, REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE ARE STILL ACCEPTING BRUSH FROM THE STORM, UH, THE CONVENIENCE CENTER UNTIL APRIL ONE AT NO CHARGE.
THANK YOU, MR. ALVAREZ, UM, BOARD, IS THERE ANY REQUEST TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES IN THE
[VI. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the]
ORDER? NO.THIS IS OUR TIME FOR OUR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
UM, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR ANYONE THAT HAS ANYTHING
[VII. Citizen Comment]
TO TALK ABOUT COUNTY BUSINESS.UM, WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS LEADER FOR, FOR THAT.
IF YOU COME UP TO THE MIC, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
I HAVE TODAY WITH ME THAT WANTS TO SPEAK.
I'M HERE TO RECOGNIZE, SAY, KU FOR WORKING AND A COMMUNITY GARDEN WITH THEM AND BEING AN ADVOCATE IN SCHOOL SYSTEM.
AND THANKS FOR ENCOURAGING CONVERSATIONS.
THANKS, MICHAEL, FOR WORKING WITH HIM AND THE COMMUNITY GARDEN.
AGAIN, I'M HERE TO RECOGNIZE, UM, MS. WENDY HOPS AND I'LL SAY COOL.
SHABAKA WHO HAS BEEN A GREAT ADVOCATE IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A BLACK COMMUNITY? UH, HE HAS WORKED WITH ME WITH CHILDREN IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM BEING AN ADVOCATE.
I HAVE ONE CHILD AS 26 YEARS OLD, WORKED WITH ME WHEN SHE WAS IN FIRST, SECOND GRADE.
SO HE'S BEEN AROUND WORKING WITH THE KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY AND MS. WENDY HALL, SHE WORKS WITH US AND SHE HELPED US WITH THE CORONA VIRUS VACCINES.
AND I GET A, THEY USED TODAY TOO FROM HIS, WHEN THE HOME.
SO SHE'S BEEN A GREAT ADVOCATE AND SHE'S ALSO WORKED WITH ME AND, UM, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, WHEN WE WENT OUT INTO, WHEN THE STATE WAS DOING, UM, TO MEETINGS ACROSS THE STATE, I WORKED WITH MS. WINTER HOB WITH THAT, WHERE WE SPOKE ON OF KIDS TO SPECIAL EDUCATION.
SO THEY HAVE BEEN A GREAT ADVOCATE AND THEY SPEAK FOR ME WHEN THEY COME TO THESE MEETINGS.
AND THERE WERE 12 OTHER PEOPLE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO COME WITH ME TODAY TO RECOGNIZE THEM.
THEY ARE A GREAT HELP TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU, MR. HARDY, THEY SAY IT IN A THEATER, NEVER FOLLOW A CHILD TO ACT.
SO I'M GOING TO DISAPPOINT HERE, MR. CHAIRMAN, JONATHAN LEE, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
UM, UH, I DO WANT TO SAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.
UH, UH, I DIDN'T COORDINATE CALENDARS PROPERLY WITH THE BOARD AND I WASN'T HERE ON THE 22ND.
UM, I DO APPRECIATE SEVERAL PEOPLE SAYING WE'RE WHERE ARE YOU? BUT IT WAS A SHOCK WHEN I WENT INTO THE FOOD LINE AND SAW
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MY FACE ON A MILK CARTON UNDER THE WORD MISSING.UM, I DO WANT TO COMMENT THOUGH, UH, ON THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS THAT WERE MADE ON THE 22ND AND IN MY WORLD, PUBLIC SAFETY EDUCATION TRANSPORTATION ARE THE BIG THREE SERVICES THAT GOVERNMENT PROVIDES.
AND SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT THE PUBLIC SERVICE, UH, BUDGETS PRESENTED, UH, ARE ON TRACK TO RECEIVE, UH, SUPPORT THAT WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE.
AND YOU HAWAII, UH, GIVE SOME COUNTY WITHOUT CONCERNS OF, UH, UH, ANYTHING OTHER PUBLIC SAFETY.
WHEN WE CALL 9 1 1, WE HAVE SOMEBODY RESPONDING.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING THAT, UM, ALSO APPRECIATE THE REPORT ON THE STAFFING THAT, UH, WAS GIVEN, UH, NO ORGANIZATION IS ANY BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE WORKING THERE.
AND SO I FEEL VERY BLESSED THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED IN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE, I MEAN, THIS IS A COMPETITIVE LABOR MARKET.
I DO KNOW WE HAVE SOME AMOUNT OF TURNOVER, EVERY ORGANIZATION DOES, BUT WE HAVE SOME VERY DEDICATED EMPLOYEES.
AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATED IN MY SHORT TENURE IN THE COUNTY OF 32 YEARS OF SEEING THOSE FOLKS AND THE SERVICES AND TALENTS THEY BRING TO THE TABLE.
UM, I WOULD BE REMISS AS YOU ARE IN YOUR BUDGET PROCESS.
IF I DIDN'T MENTION, AND I'M GOING TO CALL IT PROPAGANDA THAT I RECEIVED FROM AN ADJOINING COUNTY TALKING ABOUT CHANGES, THEY ARE MAKING TO THEIR TAX RATES AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH SOME OF THEIR SURPLUS.
UH, THEY'RE SENDING REBATES TO, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, TAXPAYERS AND THEY ARE ALSO LOOKING AT ADJUSTING THEIR, THEIR TAX RATES.
I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN THIS BOARD, AS IT CONTINUES TO WORK ON THE, THAT YOU WILL NOT BE PUTTING MONIES INTO THE BUDGET THAT DON'T NEED TO BE THERE, AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE PROPER STEWARDS OF THE, OF THE COUNTY.
SO, UH, STEER THE COURSE OR STAY THE COURSE AND THE LIGHTS BLINKING.
THANK YOU, MR. LAB, ANYONE ELSE FOR CITIZEN KIND ALL.
UM, MOVING RIGHT ALONG, UH, BOARD, YOU HAVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM JANUARY 31ST
[VIII. Approval of Action Minutes]
AND FEBRUARY 1ST.UM, IF I COULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS LAST QUESTION, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY 31ST AND FEBRUARY 21ST, 2022 BOARD MEETING MINUTES.
CAN I GET A SECOND, SECOND? THANKS EVERYBODY.
ALL IN FAVOR OF PASSING THE SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES, THE 31ST AND THE REGULAR MEETING OF FEBRUARY 1ST SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED EXTENSIONS MOTION CARRIES.
WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR REPORTS, STARTING WITH OUR GOOD FRIENDS AT THREDUP.
[IX. Reports]
MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ALVAREZ, MARSHALL,[1. 5309: VDOT - February 2022]
WHEN WITH BEAT DOT, UH, THIS PAST MONTH WE HAD A 156 WORK ORDERS AND COMPLETED 157 OF THOSE, UH, HAD SIX CALL-OUTS, UM, BEEN DOING NORMAL OPERATIONS AS WE USUALLY DO A POT HOLE, PATCHING SHOULDER REPAIR, DITCH CLEANING AND LITTER PICK UP, UM, I'M SURE STAFF, UH, LAST MONTH I WASN'T AT LAST MONTH'S MEETING, I WAS OFF THAT DAY.AND THEY TOLD YOU ABOUT A DEBRIS CONTRACTOR THAT DEFAULTED, UM, THAT CONTRACTOR'S NAME WAS ASH BRITT.
HE STARTED WORK ON THE 19TH OF JANUARY AND WALKED OFF THE JOB ON JANUARY 28TH WORK NINE DAYS.
SINCE THAT TIME WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A SECURE AND BEDS FOR ANOTHER CONTRACTOR AND WE'RE CLOSE.
WE HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW TO SOUTH CAROLINA.
THEIR NAME IS SILA LLC, GOING TO HAVE A KICKOFF MEETING THIS WEEK.
AND, UH, HE'S SUPPOSED TO START FIRST PART OF NEXT WEEK TO GO BACK AND, UH, COMPLETE THE DEBRIS REMOVAL.
THEY'LL GO BACK TO THE PRIMARY SYSTEM THAT THEY DIDN'T COMPLETE AND THEN MOVE INTO THE SECONDARY SYSTEM.
UH, AND I HOPE WE HAVE GOOD LUCK WITH THIS CONTRACTOR.
I HOPE THEY DON'T DEFAULT AS WELL.
SO IT'S BEEN ONE LONG MONTH WHERE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CLEAN ANY OF THE DEBRIS UP.
WE HAVE BEEN OUT PUSHING, YOU KNOW, PLACES BACK THAT STUBS WERE STICKING OUT.
AND I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING.
AND THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION, MR. ALVAREZ, ABOUT PACE.
THAT WAS PRETTY, PRETTY TOUGH,
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BUT WHAT THE BAY AREA HEADQUARTERS WENT BACK AND PUSHED THAT DEBRIS BACK.SO, UH, UH, NOW GOT, UH, THE, UH, THE STUDY ON, UH, HAYNESVILLE FIFE AS COMPLETED.
AND I THINK THEY NOTED THAT LAST TIME, UH, SPEED LIMITS COULD BE CHANGED TO 45.
WE'RE SECURING THE SIGNS AND IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT JUST 45, THERE'S SOME, UH, REGULATORY, I MEAN, NOT REGULATORY, BUT, UM, ADVANCED WARNING SIGNS THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING UP.
SO IT'S THE WHOLE, QUARTER'S GOING TO BE 45 MILES AN HOUR ONCE WE COMPLETED.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
UH, IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
UM, UM, SO MR. LEE, AND I UNDERSTAND HOW DIFFICULT THE STORM WAS AND, YOU KNOW, MY ROAD IS THE SAME AS EVERYBODY ELSE'S WITH TREES AND ALL AROUND IT, BUT I DO APPRECIATE IT.
I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE POINTED OUT PARTICULAR ROADS THAT WERE REALLY BAD AND Y'ALL HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THOSE FOUR.
HOPE YOUR NEW GUY DOES GREAT FROM SOUTH CAROLINA.
THAT'S THAT? THAT'S WHERE THE COMPANY STATIONED OUT OF? YES.
BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE.
I SEE, UM, THE ROUNDABOUT CENTRAL OFFICER REVIEWING, SO SHOULD BE GETTING AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE ROUNDABOUT.
UM, AND WITHIN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE WEEKS, I THINK.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, YOU FIGURE CONSTRUCTION STARTS, HOW LONG AFTER THE IT'LL BE THAT THERE'S A CURE PERIOD WHERE THEY REVIEW EVERYTHING? I PROBABLY, WE PROBABLY WON'T SEE ANYTHING UNTIL APRIL MAY.
OKAY, MR. PETERSON, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE TOUCHED ON THIS OR NOT, BUT IT MENTIONS IN HERE THE, UH, EXTENSION, THE PUNCH THROUGH ON FAIRGROUNDS HAS BEEN DELAYED.
IS THAT, I MEAN, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT FULLY FUNDED, I GUESS THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE DELAY.
IS THERE ANY STATUS UPDATE ON THAT OR NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS POINT? NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS TIME.
UM, AND THEN THE, UM, THE TREES, I KNOW THERE'S MORE THAN ONE TREE IN THE COUNTY.
UM, BUT I LIKE TO LITTLE PREVENTION.
THERE'S ONE ON HERMITAGE WHERE THEY, UM, IT'S LEANING OVER THE ROAD ENOUGH TO WHERE THE BALL HAS COME UP OUT OF THE GROUND.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO LAST MUCH LONGER.
IT'S ACROSS FROM MEDIC SEVEN 50 IS THE MAILBOX.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU CRUISE OUT THERE, WHENEVER YOU GET THEM ON BOARD, I GUESS THERE'S MORE THAN ONE TREE, BUT MAYBE A WHOLE PREVENTION BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENS.
UM, MR. WYNN, I NOTICED YOU SAID YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON THE CONTRACTOR, BUT 64 IS BEING CLEANED UP.
I TOOK IT ON SUNDAY AND THEY WOULD STOP IN TRAFFIC.
IT'S RUN BY A DIFFERENT OFFICE.
NO, THAT THAT'S A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR WORKING ON INTERSTATE SYSTEM.
UH, AS BASICALLY TWO DISTRICTS ARE WORKING OUT THERE, YOU HAVE THE COLEPEPPER DISTRICT AND THE RICHMOND DISTRICT.
UM, AND WE, YOU KNOW, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY, THEY MERGED TOGETHER TO GET THE WORK DONE.
UH, THEY GOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TRUCKS OUT THERE.
AND IN HOLLAND, A LOT OF THE DEBRIS TO THAT OLD, UH, REST AREA THAT WAS NEVER IMPROVED RIGHT AT, UH, WEST OF, OF AIR RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY, WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY BRING IT UP, UH, DEBRIS IN AND THEIR TUB GRINDING IT RIGHT ON THAT PROPERTY AND HOLDING IT OFF SOMEWHERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE HOLDING IT ALL.
ONE MORE QUESTION, MR. DIRECTOR, UH, THANK YOU FOR SENDING ME THE LANGUAGE FOR THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE DOD AND THE CLEAN GOOCHLAND COMMITTEE.
AND WE NEED, WE NEED TO GET TOGETHER ON THAT, HAVE A LITTLE MEETING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND SET UP SOMETHING THAT WAY WE CAN START OFF RUNNING, WALKING FIRST AND THEN START, DO WE NEED TO PUT THAT INTO A CONTRACT OURSELVES? OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU DO? THAT'S GOING TO BE A PERMIT.
WELL, WE CAN TALK THROUGH EVERYTHING.
ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
I REALLY DON'T SEE MS. RICE OR I'M DOING THE HR REPORT.
[2. 5308: Introduction of New County Staff]
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, BARBARA HORLOCKER DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.UM, THE HR STAFF WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE TODAY, SO I WILL ANNOUNCE THE NEW EMPLOYEES AND THEN WE'LL ASK THEM TO STAND.
UM, SO I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THOSE NEW STAFF FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE GENERAL
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SERVICES AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.UM, FEBRUARY 1ST ROSLYN WOODSON JOINED THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AS THEIR OFFICE MANAGER TO BEGIN TRAINING AND TRANSITIONING WITH THE CURRENT OFFICE MANAGER WHO WILL BE RETIRING ON FEBRUARY 14TH, LEANNE WHITE JOINED THE REGISTRAR'S OFFICE AS A PERMANENT PART-TIME ASSISTANT REGISTRAR.
THIS IS A NEW POSITION THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE FY 22 BUDGET DUE TO A RECENT RETIREMENT.
MR. DWIGHT, KENNY JOINED THE CUSTODIAL STAFF.
PART-TIME IN THE GENERAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT ON FEBRUARY 22ND.
AND FINALLY ON FEBRUARY 7TH, AUSTIN GOING JOINED THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM AS THE COUNTY'S TRANSPORTATION MANAGER, MR. GOIN PREVIOUSLY WORKED AS A PROJECT ENGINEER FOR TOWN SITE ENGINEERING IN MIDLOTHIAN.
AND IF YOU'RE PRESENT, WOULD YOU ALL STAND UP AND WELCOME TO HANOVER? WELCOME TO THE HANOVER COUNTY.
THEY WON'T ASK YOU TO DO THIS AGAIN, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO.
THANK YOU, MR. WARLICK HERE, UM, BOARD, YOU HAVE THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY AND ACCOUNTS PAYABLE REPORTS IN YOUR PACKET.
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME I WOULD ASK IF ANYONE HAS ANY REPORTS FOR ANY OF THE BOARDS OR COMMITTEES THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH US, PLEASE DO SO.
WELL, I WILL JUST REPORT OUT THAT I'M SERVING ON THE CBTA, UH, LAW AND OUR LAST MEETING LAST WEEK, WE DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD AND POST THE POSITION FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
UM, THAT EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILL REPORT DIRECTLY WILL BE AN EMPLOYEE OF PLAN RVA, BUT ALL SUPERVISOR RESPONSIBILITY
[5. Board Reports]
WILL REMAIN WITH THE CBTA.UM, WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON OUR BOND POLICIES AND HOW MUCH WE WANT TO DO IS PAY AS YOU GO.
AND SO A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THAT AND I'LL KEEP YOU UPDATED AS THAT, UM, MOVES FORWARD.
WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
UM, IS THERE ANY ITEM THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PULL OUT OF THE GROUP?
[X. Consent Agenda]
ALRIGHT, SO WE WILL GO AHEAD WITH, HE CONSIDERED HIS AGENDA AS A GROUP, MR. ALVAREZ, IF YOU WILL TAKE US AWAY.JOHN, IT'S A RESOLUTION FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET.
[1. 5291: Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2022 Goochland County Budget by]
I'M TRANSFERRING $2,000.IF YOU IMAGINE THIS IS A PROJECT THAT CAME IN ON THERE CALLED SWITCH VENDORS, AND THEY DID SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO DO OUR PROPOSAL, TAKE THE 200,000 AND MOVE INTO PROJECT FACILITIES, IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, AND MOSTLY BE USED FOR FADING FOR PAVING THE LOWER PARKING LOT.
UH, THE SECOND ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, UH, ALSO AMENDING THE COUNTY BUDGET BY BUDGETING AND APPROPRIATING 450 2006 53 IN THE SCHOOL OPERATING CAFETERIA AND GRANT FUNDS AND AUTHORIZING THOSE FUND TRANSFERS TO OTHER LINE ITEMS. NUMBER THREE IS A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 BUDGET BY BUDGETING AND APPROPRIATING $250,000 IN THE UTILITIES CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND.
AND THIS MONEY WILL BE USED TO PURCHASE A PROPERTY NEXT TO OUR PUMPING STATION IN THE EASTERN END OF THE COUNTY NEXT TO, UM, THE TOOK, IT TOOK OPINES.
UM, THEN THE NEXT TITUM IS, UH, FOR A LEASE TO SIGN AN AGREEMENT FOR A LEASE ON AT THE TOWN AND COUNTRY REAL ESTATE OFFICE, OR MANNEQUIN ROAD FOR OUR UTILITIES FOLKS.
THEY ALREADY HAVE A LEASE FOR A, FOR AN OFFICE THERE AND WE'RE ADDING A SECOND OFFICE.
UH, NEXT ITEM IS, UM, AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN, UH, THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR ADJUSTMENT OF WATER, SANITARY, SEWER FACILITIES FOR THE FAIRGROUND, UH, ROUNDABOUT IT'S TO INCREASE THE, THE LINE, UH, SIZE THROUGH THE ROUNDABOUT.
UH, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED SOMETIME AGO AND THE MONEY'S BEEN SET ASIDE AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST A RESOLUTION REQUESTING, UH, V.TO ACCEPT THE ROADS IN BOUNDARY RUN SUBDIVISION INTO THE SECONDARY SYSTEM.
UH, THIS, THIS WAS ALREADY APPROVED A FEW MONTHS BACK, BUT THE PLOT AT THE TIME HAD NOT BEEN RECORDED PROPERLY.
SO NOW THAT IT'S BEEN RECORDED PROPERLY, WE'RE JUST ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE IT
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SO WE CAN ACCEPT THEM INTO THE HIGHWAY SYSTEM.AND THAT'S ALL ON CONSENT ITEMS. THANK YOU, MR. ALVAREZ, ANY QUESTIONS? PRINCE ROBBERS NOW, HURRICANE EMOTION.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH SIX IS PRESENTED SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE, UH, DR.
RAILEY UP TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THE COOSA COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS,
[XI. New Business]
FYI 2023 BUDGET.[1. 5305: Goochland County Public Schools FY2023 Budget Presentation]
AFTERNOON.I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON, AND IT IS MY PLEASURE TO REPRESENT THE SCHOOL BOARD THIS AFTERNOON, UH, WITH RELATION TO THEIR BALANCED BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED EARLIER IN FEBRUARY.
UH, THANKFUL FOR THE CHANCE TO SHARE THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THAT BUDGET WITH YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
AND CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
THE PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW AS A SCHOOL DIVISION IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU FOLLOW AS A, AS A COUNTY.
AND WE ARE IN ALIGNMENT IN MANY WAYS WITH YOUR APPROACH TO BUSINESS.
AND THIS IS A PROCESS AS WE KNOW, THAT STARTED WAY BACK IN OCTOBER, AND WE HAVE SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM FOR THEIR CONTINUED WORK.
AS WE, UH, HAVE DEVELOPED THIS BUDGET, I'M A PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO PRESENT TO YOU TO SEE THIS AFTERNOON.
AND, UH, IT'S BEEN A COLLABORATION BETWEEN MANY, MANY DIFFERENT ENTITIES AND STAFF WITH INSIDE OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO MR. SPOON REFERENCED THAT WE ARE ON THE TAIL END OF THE PANDEMIC.
HOPEFULLY ALL OF THE CHALLENGES OF THE PAST TWO YEARS ARE BEHIND US.
I WILL NEVER EVER FORGET MARCH 13TH, 2020, WHEN DECISIONS WERE MADE, THAT IMPACTED US FOR MANY YEARS NOW.
AND SO WE ARE, UM, WORKING THROUGH THE CHALLENGES OF THE PAST TWO YEARS.
AND ULTIMATELY THIS IS A BUDGET THAT IS DESIGNED TO PAVE A PATH FORWARD.
AND WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE NOW, RECOGNIZING WHAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
AND ULTIMATELY I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS AN ORGANIZATION THAT WILL HELP US RECOVER FROM WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED THE LAST TWO YEARS, AND ULTIMATELY CONTINUE TO MOVE THIS SCHOOL DIVISION FORWARD.
SO MY GOAL FOR THIS AFTERNOON IS TO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO BUILDING OUR SCHOOL BOARD'S BUDGET, UH, PROVIDE SOME CELEBRATIONS OF WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH.
UH, WE'RE PROUD TO SUPPORT THE COUNTY'S OVERALL OBJECTIVES.
AND PART OF THE SUCCESS OF OUR COUNTY CERTAINLY IS THE WORK THAT WE DO AS A SCHOOL DIVISION AND, AND HAPPY TO CONTRIBUTE TO WHAT WE DO TO SUPPORT THE OVERALL NEEDS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
AND THEN DIVE A LITTLE BIT INTO SOME OF THE IDENTIFIED NEEDS THAT WE HAVE DISCOVERED THROUGH OUR BUDGET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
TALK ABOUT SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR SAVINGS, AND THEN ULTIMATELY TALK ABOUT THE REVENUE SOURCES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD'S BUDGET REQUEST LIKE YOU, UH, THIS BUDGET IS DIRECTLY ALIGNED WITH WHAT WE BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT IN OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
AND FOR YEARS NOW, WE HAVE HAD THE VISION TO INSPIRE THE NEXT GENERATION OF STUDENTS, WHOM WE SERVE TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE WORLD, AROUND THEM.
I'VE BEEN A PART OF ORGANIZATIONS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, AND AS WE KNOW, SOME VISION AND MISSION STATEMENTS ARE QUITE COMPLEX, BUT AS YOU KNOW, OUR VISION AND OUR MISSION IS QUITE SIMPLE.
WE INSPIRE STUDENTS TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT, AND WE ARE HERE DRIVEN EVERY DAY TO MAXIMIZE THE INDIVIDUAL POTENTIAL OF EACH AND EVERY CHILD WHO WALKS THROUGH OUR DOORS AND OUR CORE VALUES OF EXCELLENCE, CREATIVITY, COURAGE HONOR, AND OPTIMISM ARE PART OF WHO WE ARE AS A SCHOOL DIVISION EACH AND EVERY EMPLOYEE BELIEVES IN THESE CORE VALUES AND EXEMPLIFIES THEM AND THEIR DAILY WORK.
AND THEN THROUGH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ONLY THREE CORE GOALS AND YOU SEE THEM ON YOUR SCREEN.
AND THIS PRESENTATION IS ALIGNED DIRECTLY WITH THOSE THREE GORE CORE GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS A PART OF OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO AS YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BUILD A BUDGET, YOU SPEND RESOURCES ON WHAT YOU VALUE AND FEEL ARE IMPORTANT.
EVERY DOLLAR GOES TOWARDS WHAT YOU FEEL IS NEEDED AND WILL HELP YOU ACCOMPLISH THE STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES OF YOUR ORGANIZATION.
SO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, OUR VISION MISSION, AND THOSE CORE VALUES DRIVE OUR BUDGET ALLOCATION.
AND WE SPEND ON DOLLARS ON WHAT WE FEEL WAS MOSTLY IMPORTANT.
AND SO WE HAVE INSTRUCTIONAL GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AS WELL AS OBJECTIVES TO OUR BUSINESS OPERATIONS.
AND ULTIMATELY THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE WANT TO ALIGN THEM.
WE DON'T WANT TO SPEND A DOLLAR WHEN ANYTHING THAT IS CONTRARY TO WHAT WE BELIEVE.
AND IN THIS CONTRARY TO WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A PART OF OUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, ULTIMATELY EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE SPEND NEEDS TO BE DEDICATED TOWARDS
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THE STUDENTS WHO WE SERVE.WE ARE PROUD TO SERVE 2,600 STUDENTS ON A DAILY BASIS EACH AND EVERY CHILD WHO WALKS THROUGH THAT DOOR, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT THEY GROW AND DEVELOP AND ULTIMATELY BECOME PRODUCTIVE CITIZENS WHO ARE, WANNA MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THIS WORLD.
SO AS WE, AS A SCHOOL DIVISION, MAKE DECISIONS, EVERY DECISION WE MAKE IS NOT, UH, IS, IS TRULY FOCUSED ON OUR KIDS, WHO WE SERVE AND AT DRIVES WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO BOARD MEMBERS I WANTED TO, BEFORE I DIVE INTO THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION, I JUST WANTED TO PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND JUST SHARE THE PRIDE THAT I HAVE AS YOUR SUPERINTENDENT AND WHAT OUR SCHOOL DIVISION HAS DONE OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST TWO YEARS.
AND EVERY ORGANIZATION WE KNOW HAS BEEN CHALLENGED BY MAKING REALLY DIFFICULT DECISIONS AND BEING FACED WITH DECISIONS THAT WE'VE NEVER HAD TO WORK THROUGH BEFORE.
UH, BUT OUR SCHOOL DIVISION HAS BEEN ABLE TO REALLY SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATE THE CHALLENGES OF THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
AND WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP OUR FOCUS ON WHAT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO STUDENTS WHOM WE SERVE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE A POINT OF PRIDE FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE DONE THAT AND DONE HAD EXCEPTIONALLY WELL, UH, BUT IT HAS NOT COME WITHOUT SOME CHALLENGES, UM, THROUGH THE PANDEMIC WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME NEEDS THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR STUDENTS FROM AN ACADEMIC STANDPOINT, FROM A BEHAVIORAL STANDPOINT SOCIALLY.
AND SO I TYPICALLY STAND IN FRONT OF YOU AND TALK ABOUT ALL THE AMAZING THINGS THAT WE ACCOMPLISHED AS A SCHOOL DIVISION.
AND I'M GOING TO DO THAT AGAIN TODAY, BUT ALSO WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT.
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, QUITE HONESTLY, THAT WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW AS A SCHOOL DIVISION AND, UH, THIS BUDGET ACCOMPLISHES SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES, BUT ALSO SETS THE TONE FOR FUTURE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE NEXT WEEK AT THE JOINT WORK SESSION.
AND THEN AGAIN, DOWN THE ROAD.
BUT FOR NOW I AM ONE CELEBRATE THE GREAT THINGS THAT OUR SCHOOL DIVISION HAS DONE AND THE WORK THAT, AND THE INVESTMENT THAT THIS COMMUNITY HAS MADE IN OUR SCHOOL DIVISION HAS RESULTED IN SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT MAKES ME PROUD AS YOUR SUPERINTENDENT AND AS REPRESENTATIVE OF THE EXCELLENCE OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT MUCH RECENTLY IS THE CONTINUED INNOVATION THAT OUR SCHOOL DIVISION HAS IN OUR CLASSROOMS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND WE ARE ON AN APPLE PLATFORM.
ALL OF OUR STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO THE BEST DEVICES THAT TECHNOLOGY CAN BUY.
IT'S A DIRECT RESULT OF THE INVESTMENT THAT THIS COUNTY HAS MADE IN THAT TECHNOLOGY.
THERE ARE LESS THAN 500 SCHOOLS WORLDWIDE THAT ARE RECOGNIZED AS APPLE DISTINGUISHED SCHOOLS.
ALL FIVE OF OUR SCHOOLS HAVE ATTAINED THAT RECOGNITION.
AND IT'S A POINT OF PRIDE FOR US AS WELL.
I'VE SHARED PUBLICLY IN THE PAST AND SHARING AGAIN TODAY THAT FOR THREE YEARS IN A ROW, NOW OUR STUDENTS, UH, WHO ARE, UM, STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES AND THE STAFF WHO SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES HAVE RECEIVED A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANCE ON ACADEMIC MEASURES, AS WELL AS COMPLIANCE MEASURES.
WE ARE ONE OF JUST A HANDFUL OF SCHOOL DIVISIONS ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH WHO HAVE EARNED THIS RECOGNITION.
AND IT'S A DIRECT RESULT OF WHAT OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION DRIVERS AND NURSES AND TEACHERS AND PARAPROFESSIONALS HAVE DONE TO GET THIS RECOGNITION ON BOTH TEST RESULTS AND COMPLIANCE INITIATIVES.
AND THEN AS WE KNOW, UH, I DO NOT WANT US TO TAKE FOR GRANTED THE ACCOLADES AND THE SUCCESSES OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
AND NOW BY NICHE, WE HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED NOT ONE OR TWO OR THREE YEARS, BUT NOW FOUR YEARS IN A ROW AS THE BEST SCHOOL DIVISION IN THIS RICHMOND METRO REGION.
AND IT'S A RESULT OF EVERYBODY WHO HAS, UH, WHO IS IMPACTED BY OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
AND AS A RESULT OF THE SUPPORT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM YOU, THE INVESTMENT THIS COMMUNITY MAKES IN US THE WORK THAT HAPPENS IN CLASSROOMS AND CLINICS AND CAFETERIAS ACROSS THE SCHOOL DIVISION, THAT WE'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR OUR EFFORTS.
AND SO REALLY, REALLY PROUD OF WHAT WE CONTINUE TO DO.
AND THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR THAT NICHES EVER DONE THIS RATING.
AND FOR THE FIRST YEAR, OUR TEACHERS HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THEIR SUCCESS AND RECOGNIZE AS HAVING THE BEST TEACHERS AND RICHMOND.
AND I WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME REALLY DIVING DEEP INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY TO CONTINUE THE SUCCESS THAT WE ARE HAVING AS A SCHOOL DIVISION, YOU KNOW, THAT ANY ORGANIZATION'S SUCCESS IS TIED DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE AND THE TALENT OF THE PEOPLE IN THE WORK THAT THE PEOPLE DO TO SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATION.
WE HAVE THE BEST TEACHERS, ULTIMATELY IT'S OUR GOAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO RETAIN THE BEST AND ATTRACT THE BEST SO THAT WE CAN BE SUCCESSFUL WELL INTO THE FUTURE.
I'M THANKFUL FOR THE WORK THAT WE ALL DID TOGETHER WITH MR. ALVAREZ AND COUNTY STAFF AND HOW THIS COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER TO SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY INITIATIVES AND OUR SCHOOL DIVISION IN THE BOND REFERENDUM.
I THINK AS WE ARE GOING THROUGH THIS, WE WERE SO BUSY THAT WE WERE FOCUSED ON THE WORK, BUT WE FORGOT, FORGOT ABOUT WHAT AN 85% PLUS APPROVAL RATING REALLY MEANS.
THAT'S CONFIDENCE, THAT'S TRUST THAT'S RECOGNITION OF THE GREAT WORK THAT THE COUNTY AND THE SCHOOLS ARE DOING TOGETHER TO ULTIMATELY MAKE SURE THIS COUNTY IS CONTINUALLY SUCCESSFUL WELL INTO THE FUTURE.
SO I WANT TO THANK OUR VOTERS FOR THEIR SUPPORT.
AND ULTIMATELY THIS IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT NO OTHER COUNTY
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OR LOCALITY HAD THIS SAME SUCCESS ON THEIR BOND REFERENDUM IN THE COURSE OF THE FALL.SO ANOTHER POINT OF PRIDE FOR US ALL ANOTHER, UH, INDICATION OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION SUCCESS, THE BOARD MEMBERS, I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THAT HAPPENED IN OUR CLASSROOMS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND SO WE CONTINUE EVEN IN THE FACE OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE IMPACTING PUBLIC EDUCATION TODAY, TO CONTINUE TO GIVE OUR KIDS AN ABSOLUTELY AMAZING EXPERIENCE, WHETHER IT'S WITH TECHNOLOGY ON THE VOLLEYBALL COURT.
UH, WE HAVE THE VERY ENERGY ACADEMY IN THE COMMONWEALTH.
OUR STUDENTS ARE DESIGNING SYSTEMS WITH WIND AND SOLAR ENERGY.
UH, WE'RE PROVIDING STUDENTS WITH AN OUTLET TO HELP THEMSELVES GROW AND DEVELOP AND BE MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY WELL SUPPORTING STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES, UH, IN A POSITIVE WAY, THE CONTINUED EXPOSURE TO A VARIETY OF ATHLETIC AND ACADEMIC PROGRAMS AND OPPORTUNITIES TO BE KIDS IN A VARIETY OF SETTINGS.
AND SO THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF EXPERIENCING ON A REGULAR BASIS ACROSS OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
AND I'LL TELL YOU, BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WE CONTINUE TO STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE, AND WE'RE DOING THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF WHAT OUR SCHOOL DIVISION HAS DONE AND CONTINUES TO DO IN THE FACE OF SOME VERY SIGNIFICANT ADVERSITY THAT WE'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST TWO YEARS, NOT ONLY WITH THE PANDEMIC, BUT WITH THE ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY THAT PUBLIC EDUCATION HAS BEEN UNDER OVER, OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST, PROBABLY 12, 15 MONTHS.
AND SO THROUGH IT ALL, WE HAVE NAVIGATED THOSE CHALLENGES EXTREMELY WELL AND CONTINUE TO BE THAT SCHOOL DIVISION THAT I AM PROUD TO SERVE IN AND PROUD TO SUPPORT THIS COMMUNITY IN SUCH A POSITIVE WAY.
SO, UH, THE ONES WHO HAVE GONE OUT THE DOOR, THEY DIDN'T EVEN MAKE IT TO MY DESK.
BUT, UH, WHAT I DO WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS WHAT WE NEED MOVING FORWARD, NOT ONLY FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BUT STARTING TO SET THE TONE FOR WHAT WE MAY NEED IN FUTURE FISCAL YEARS.
AND SURELY THIS IS A NEEDS-BASED BUDGET AS YOU GO THROUGH, YOU'LL SEE THE EXPENDITURES ARE LARGELY DEDICATED TOWARDS MEETING, UH, THE CONTINUED RECRUITMENT EFFORTS OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND PAYING A COMPETITIVE SALARY AND OVERALL COMPENSATION PACKAGE.
THERE IS MINIMAL INCREASE IN ANY NON-PERSONNEL BUDGET ITEMS, QUITE HONESTLY, IN THIS BUDGET, UH, ANY SORT OF INFLATIONARY FACTORS, UH, WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR TO A MINOR DEGREE.
UH, BUT WE REALLY HAVE NOT MADE ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO OUR NON-PERSONNEL BUDGET LINES FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE RESOURCES IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET ARE GOING DIRECTLY TO PERSONNEL.
SO IT IS TRULY A NEEDS BASED BUDGET.
AND SO I WANT TO DIVE IN AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
UH, WE HAVE ALIGNED THIS BUDGET PRESENTATION BASED ON OUR STRATEGIC GOAL AREA.
AND THE FIRST ONE IS MAXIMIZING EACH STUDENT'S POTENTIAL AS WE PREPARE THEM ULTIMATELY FOR SUCCESS IN LIFE.
THIS IS LARGELY AN INSTRUCTIONAL GOAL AREA AND FOCUSES ON LIFELONG LEARNING.
UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SEEN ACADEMICALLY BOARD MEMBERS, QUITE HONESTLY, AND THIS IS A SITUATION THAT HAPPENED PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, BUT IT HAS BEEN EXACERBATED BY THE PANDEMIC IS LEARNING LOSS.
IT'S BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH TIME OUT OF SCHOOL, UH, WHETHER IT WAS THE SUMMER OR SOME OF THE CHALLENGES OF, UH, WHAT WE EXPERIENCED OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST TWO YEARS, WE DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ACADEMICALLY FOR OUR STUDENTS IN BOTH READING AND MATHEMATICS.
AND THIS IS JUST AN INDICATION OF WHAT WE CALL THE SUMMER SLUMP.
AND SO THIS BUDGET DOES INCLUDE SOME RESOURCES FOR US TO HOPEFULLY LESSEN THE IMPACT OVER TIME OF, OF THE SUMMER SLUMP, UH, DR.
GEIER NEXT WEEK, WHEN WE GET TOGETHER AT OUR JOINT WORK SESSIONS TO SPEND SOME TIME REALLY DIVE IN DEEP IN SOME OTHER ACADEMIC MEASURES, BUT THIS IS JUST AN INDICATION OF WHAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER TIME RELATED TO WHAT HAPPENS OVER THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER.
SO THE CURRENT BUDGET DOES INCLUDE SOME DOLLARS FOR US TO EXPAND SOME OF OUR PROGRAMS OVER THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER.
UH, IT EXPANDS IN A RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE UNITED WAY AND GETTING SOME OF OUR STUDENTS WHO HAVE NO PRESCHOOL EXPERIENCE A FEW SHORT WEEKS PRIOR TO THE START OF THEIR KINDERGARTEN EXPERIENCE TO KIND OF GET USED TO WHAT SCHOOL CAN BE.
UH, THIS BUDGET INCLUDES AN EXTENSION OF OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE YMCA AND ADDS ANOTHER WEEK TO THAT RELATIONSHIP WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE FOUR OR FIVE MORE DAYS OF ACADEMIC SUPPORT FOR OUR STUDENTS THROUGH WHAT WE CALL THE POWER SCHOLARS ACADEMY ACADEMY.
AND IT STARTS TO DABBLE AROUND SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL ENRICHMENT TO OUR STUDENTS THROUGH WHAT WE'RE CALLING AND OUR SESSIONS, WHICH ARE WEEK-LONG LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR STUDENTS.
SO SOME ADDITIONAL RESOURCES DEDICATED TO THAT.
SO AS YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE BOARD MEMBERS, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THAT FIRST GOAL AREA, AND, UH, REALLY ONLY 0.57 FTE INCREASE IN YEAR OVER YEAR PERSONNEL.
AND I WILL SAY THAT THAT 0.57 WAS NON BUDGETED FOR THE CURRENT YEAR.
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SO WE'RE JUST CAPTURING THAT FOR THE FUTURE FISCAL YEAR.IT JUST WAS NOT IN OUR CURRENT BUDGET.
SO ARE, ARE ACCOMMODATING FOR THAT.
UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE LOCAL DOLLARS AND STATE DOLLARS.
IT'S AN INCREASE OF $33,700 IN STATE AND LOCAL RESOURCES, A VERY SMALL INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR THIS PARTICULAR GOAL AREA.
UH, THERE ARE SOME FUNDING INCREASES THAT ARE FEDERALLY FUNDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET TO THE TUNE OF $500,000.
AND YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THAT IS DEDICATED TOWARD THAT EXPANSION AND SUMMER PROGRAMMING THAT I JUST SHARED ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDES GOAL TWO IS ALIGNED WITH AN INCLUSIVE AND ENGAGING CULTURE, AND WE'LL SPEND MOST OF MY TIME ON THAT SECOND BULLET EMPLOYING A DIVERSE DYNAMIC AND EXPERT WORKFORCE.
AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE I'M WANNA SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME.
UH, BUT AGAIN, BOARD MEMBERS HERE ARE SOME PICTURES OF THE WORK THAT HAPPENS IN OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
AND AS WAS REFERENCED EARLIER TODAY, YOU KNOW, THIS COUNTY OVERALL IS BENEFITS FROM THE DEDICATION AND TALENT OF MANY, MANY EMPLOYEES WHO WORK AT OUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS, WORK IN OUR SCHOOLS, WORK IN EVERY ASPECT OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT.
AND SO HERE ARE SOME OF OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE SCHOOL DIVISION WHO PUT THEIR BADGE ON COME TO WORK AND PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL SUPPORT FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
UH, NOT ONLY SUPPORTING OUR STUDENTS, BUT SUPPORTING OUR FAMILIES AND CITIZENS AND JUST CONTINUING THE EXCELLENT WORK OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
UH, WE ARE A COMPLEX ORGANIZATION WITH MULTIPLE CYLINDERS AND PISTONS THAT ARE MOVING UP AND DOWN AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
AND IF ANY, ONE OF THESE ASPECTS OF OUR ORGANIZATION IS NOT STRONG, WE SPUTTER AND WE DON'T MOVE AT THE RATE WHERE WE NEED TO.
SO IT TAKES ALL OF US AS A SCHOOL DIVISION, UH, TO SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS, OUR FAMILIES, AND CONTINUE THE EXCELLENT WORK OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AND THIS IS A PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO OUR SCHOOL BOARD IN DECEMBER IS WE LOOK AT ALL OF OUR EMPLOYMENT CATEGORIES AND WE COMPARE OURSELVES AS A SCHOOL DIVISION TO SIX OTHER SCHOOL DIVISIONS IN THE REGION.
SO THERE ARE A TOTAL OF SEVEN SCHOOL DIVISIONS WITHIN OUR COMPETITIVE MARKET.
AND WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT EVERY EMPLOYMENT CATEGORY AND WE RATE OURSELVES COMPARED TO THOSE OTHER SIX SCHOOL DIVISIONS, AND WE SEE WHERE WE ARE IN RELATION TO THE MARKET.
AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE ARE BASED ON APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON OF THE 2021, 2022 SCHOOL YEAR, OUR CURRENT SALARIES HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, AND THEN THE SALARIES OF THE SIX OTHER COMPETITIVE SCHOOL DIVISIONS IN THE REGION, UH, TO THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE RANKING FOR EACH SCHOOL DIVISION AT EACH BAND FROM ZERO TO 25 ON THAT GRAPH.
WE ALSO LOOK AT NOT ONLY WHERE WE RANK IN COMPARISON TO THOSE OTHER SCHOOL DIVISIONS, BUT HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO THE MEDIAN? HOW FAR AWAY ARE WE FROM THE MEDIAN? AND SO AS SEVEN SCHOOL DIVISIONS, IT'S REAL NICE.
YOU GOT THREE TO THE TOP, YOU'VE GOT THREE TO THE BOTTOM, YOU GOT YOUR MEDIAN RIGHT THERE AT NUMBER FOUR.
AND SO, UH, THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS THE REGIONAL MEDIAN IS STEPS ZERO THROUGH 25, OUR CURRENT SALARY AT THOSE STEPS AND THE DISTANCE THAT WE ARE FROM THE MEDIAN AT EACH STEP ALONG THE WAY.
AND SO WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT THAT AND SEE KINDA HOW WE'RE DOING IN THE MARKET AND BOARD MEMBERS.
WE, AS YOU KNOW, HAVE DEDICATED RESOURCES TOWARDS SALARY IMPROVEMENT OVER TIME.
UH, AND I'M THANKFUL FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT HAS SPENT TOWARDS SALARY IMPROVEMENT.
UH, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE NOT GAINED THE GROUND THAT WE HAD HOPED TO GAIN OVER TIME WITH SALARY IMPROVEMENT.
AND SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS LOOKING AT BANDS FROM ZERO TO 25 FROM TOP TO BOTTOM, IF YOU SEE A GREEN SQUARE, THAT MEANS WE ARE ABOVE THE MEDIAN AT THAT BAND.
IF YOU SEE A YELLOW SQUARE, WE ARE AT THE MEDIAN AT THAT BAND RED SQUARE, WE ARE BELOW THE MEDIAN.
YOU CAN SEE IN 2017, WE WERE ABOVE THE MEDIAN AND FOUR OUT OF SIX PAY BANDS FOR OUR TEACHERS AS TIME HAS GONE ON.
WE UNFORTUNATELY HAVE TURNED THE YELLOW AND THE GREEN FROM RED.
AND IT CERTAINLY HAS NOT BEEN A RESULT OF A LACK OF EFFORT OR A LACK OF FINANCES.
IT'S JUST BEEN A RESULT OF THE MARKET CONDITIONS THAT ARE AROUND US.
AND SO HERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT IN TIME WHERE WE'RE NOT AT THE MEDIAN AT ANY OF THESE PAY BANDS, AND IT'S CREATING A CONCERN FOR US AS WE THINK ABOUT ATTRACTING AND RETAINING TALENT AND CONTINUING THE STRONG SUCCESS OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO ZOOMING OUT A LITTLE BIT, YOU CAN SEE THE TEACHERS ARE NOT AT THE MEDIAN AT ANY ONE OF THOSE PAY BANDS.
THERE ARE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES IN OUR EMPLOYMENT GROUP WHERE WE ARE AT THE MEDIAN OR ABOVE THE MEDIAN.
UH, BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF TODAY, I WANT TO DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON TEACHER SALARIES.
AND YOU HAVE SEEN THIS GRAPHIC BEFORE WE TALKED ABOUT IT, OUR JOINT WORK
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SESSION, AND IT'S NO SECRET TO ANYONE THAT INFLATION YEAR OVER YEAR, LAST YEAR, WAS IT 7% WHEN YOU FACTOR IN A VARIETY OF GOODS AND SERVICES BASED ON THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX.SO THIS BUDGET INCLUDES A RECOMMENDATION FOR A 3% MERIT INCREASE FOR EMPLOYEES AND A 2% MARKET ADJUSTMENT FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.
UH, THAT'S THE BASELINE OF THIS RECOMMENDATION FROM A SALARY EMPLOYMENT STANDPOINT.
UH, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN SOME DETAILS REGARDING OTHER EMPLOYMENT GROUPS, BUT FOR ALL EMPLOYEES WHO EARN A YEAR'S WORTH OF SUCCESSFUL PERFORMANCE, EITHER BEING SATISFACTORY OR EXEMPLARY, THIS IS THE SCHOOL BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION FOR A 3% MERIT INCREASE IN THE 2% MARKET ADJUSTMENT.
SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE AS AN EMPLOYEE, AS AN EMPLOYER IS RECOGNIZING WHERE WE DRAW OUR WORKFORCE IN THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS SPECIFICALLY OUR TEACHER WORKFORCE, AND WE HAVE 272 TEACHERS.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE TEACHERS LIVE OUTSIDE OF GOOCHLAND COUNTY.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE, WE'VE BROKEN THAT DOWN BY GEOGRAPHIC REGION.
AND WE SAID, OKAY, HOW, HOW, HOW FAR ARE THESE FOLKS REALLY DRIVING TO BECOME A PART OF OUR GROUP AND, AND SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF AS, AS AN EMPLOYEE OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION AND BOARD WARMERS? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS THAT FOR YEARS, OUR SCHOOL DIVISION HAS HAD THESE INTANGIBLE COMPONENTS THAT HAS ALLOWED US TO RETAIN OUR STAFF AND ATTRACT STAFF.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROUD OF THE SMALL CLASS SIZES THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT IS AN INGREDIENT THAT HELPS US TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
UH, THE ENVIRONMENT THAT WE CREATE FROM A, UH, AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT AND SUPPORT THAT WE PROVIDE WITH SOME AUTONOMY IN THE CLASSROOM, SOME OF OUR POLICIES ARE CERTAINLY EMPLOYEE FRIENDLY, UH, OUR FOCUS, NOT ON JUST A SINGULAR SOL TEST, BUT LOOKING AT HOW STUDENTS GROW OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR IS SOMETHING THAT HAS, HAS HELPED US TO RETAIN STAFF.
I TALKED ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY AND ULTIMATELY THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE IN THIS COMMUNITY, YOU DON'T FIND EVERYWHERE.
AND THAT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS HELPED US FROM AN ATTRACTION AND RETENTION STANDPOINT.
BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS SOME OF THOSE INTANGIBLES AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT MAYBE AREN'T SALARY RELATED THAT HAVE HELPED US IN RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION ARE BEING SQUEEZED RIGHT NOW BY SOME OF THE ECONOMIC FACTORS, QUITE HONESTLY, THAT WE ARE, NONE OF US ARE IMMUNE FROM, AND SO INFLATION RISING COSTS OF CHILDCARE, FUEL PRICES, HOUSING COSTS, TRAVEL TIMES.
SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE KIND OF PUTTING US IN A, IN A VICE A LITTLE BIT, AND IT'S STARTING TO IMPACT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE SEEING FROM A PERSONNEL STANDPOINT, I SPENT TIME WITH PRINCIPALS TODAY AND WE WENT DOWN ALL THE OPENINGS THAT THEY HAVE AT EACH OF THEIR SCHOOLS.
AND HERE WE ARE ON MARCH 1ST AND WE HAVE MORE CURRENT AND POTENTIAL OPENINGS THAN WE HAVE HAD IN A LONG TIME, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN SERVING THE SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THAT A LITTLE BIT WHERE A STORY TODAY WAS, WELL, THIS TEACHER CAN MAKE $5,000 MORE AND THEY CAN WORK FIVE MINUTES AWAY FROM THEIR HOME.
WE'RE HEARING MORE PEOPLE START TO LOOK AT EMPLOYMENT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THOSE FACTORS THAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
IT'S JUST A REALITY OF WHAT WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW.
SO, UH, WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS RECOMMENDING AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS GOING BEYOND THAT 5% FOR OUR TEACHERS AND REVISING THE SALARY SCALE, UH, SO THAT THE AVERAGE TEACHER WOULD GET A 6.414% RAISE IN THEIR YEAR OVER YEAR SALARY.
SO WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE IS IF THIS IS WHAT FINALLY MAKES IT THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, AND THE SALARY IS 6.14 IS WHERE WE LAND.
WILL WE GAIN GROUND ON OUR COMPETITORS? ASSUMING THAT EVERY OTHER SCHOOL DIVISION WOULD GIVE A 5% RAISE.
AND OUR SCHOOL DIVISION GIVES US 6.14% RAISE, WOULD WE GAIN GROUND? AND UNFORTUNATELY WE WOULD NOT GAIN THE GROUND THAT WE WOULD WANT TO GAIN.
AND SO HERE'S WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY ON A MEDIAN MARKET ANALYSIS BASIS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE STILL IN THE NEGATIVE AND THE BOTTOM.
AND UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T MAKE IT TO THE MEDIAN, UH, EVEN WITH A 6.14% INCREASE.
AND SO WE'RE CURRENTLY ALL RED FROM TOP TO BOTTOM IN 2021.
AND WITH A 6.14% INCREASE, ASSUMING A 5% FOR OTHERS.
UNFORTUNATELY WE STILL DO NOT GET TO THAT YELLOW OR GREEN AREA FROM TOP TO BOTTOM.
WE ALSO HAVE A NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMPETITIVE WITH OUR TEACHER SUBSTITUTES.
AND HERE'S WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT MARKET.
A LITTLE MORE COMPETITIVE THAN WE ARE WITH OUR FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, BUT STILL BELOW SOME OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISIONS WHERE WE HAVE COMPETITORS.
AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT'S REALLY CHALLENGING AT TIMES TO BE ABLE TO FILL OUR CLASSROOMS WITH SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS.
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COMPETITIVE HERE.UH, SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING AN INCREASE IN SUBSTITUTE TEACHER PAY SLIGHTLY, AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN 2122 AND THE PROPOSED 2223, WHICH ARE SLIGHT INCREASES DAILY ON DAILY RATES.
IN ADDITION TO THE WORK THAT OUR TEACHERS DO, WE'VE DONE AN ANALYSIS OF OUR OTHER EMPLOYMENT CATEGORIES, PARAPROFESSIONALS INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS, CUSTODIANS FOOD, SERVICE PERSONNEL, AND CLERICAL STAFF.
AND THE SAME ANALYSIS APPLIES HERE.
YELLOWS AT MEDIAN GREEN'S ABOVE MEDIAN AND RED IS BELOW MEDIAN IN OUR COMPETITIVE MARKET.
SO THE SCHOOL BOARD'S PROPOSAL HAS A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT AND BE MORE COMPETITIVE FOR THESE LOWER WAGE EARNERS WHO ARE TRULY THE BACKBONE OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION, WHO PROVIDE SUPPORT TO GET STUDENTS TO AND FROM SCHOOL FEED STUDENTS, KEEP OUR FACILITIES CLEAN AND MAKE SURE THAT THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS ARE, ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
SO SOME SUBSTANTIAL REVISIONS TO THESE HOURLY PAY RATES.
AND YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SCREEN WHERE WE ARE RECOMMENDING MOVING CAFETERIA WORKERS AND CUSTODIANS, AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL ASSISTANTS, SO THAT WE CAN PAY AT LEAST WITH SOME OF THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS AND BIG BOX STORES ARE PAYING ON AN HOURLY BASIS.
SO ALL IN ALL BOARD MEMBERS, UM, THIS IS WHERE THE MOST SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS.
AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN THERE NEARLY $1.8 MILLION IN NEW SPENDING DEDICATED TOWARDS THIS GOAL AREA, WITH THE VAST MAJORITY GOING TOWARDS STAFF COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS, UH, A LITTLE FEW DOLLARS HERE OR THERE GOING TOWARDS SOME RECRUITING INITIATIVES AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME OTHER MINOR ADJUSTMENTS, BUT BY AND LARGE, $1.8 MILLION GOING TOWARDS THIS GOAL AREA.
AND THEN THE LAST GOAL AREA IS TO ENHANCE AND SUPPORT THE INSTRUCTIONAL AND LEARNING NEEDS OF ALL STAFF, SPECIFICALLY, THIS RELATES TO FACILITIES AND TECHNOLOGY AND SOME OF OUR OPERATIONAL NEEDS.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SPENT DOLLARS ON THIS YEAR, SIGNIFICANT INCREASES TO, UH, THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING WITH OUR HPAC.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, A SIGNIFICANT DOLLAR AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT HAVE BEEN SPENT THERE AT BOTH BIRD AND RANDOLPH, AND SOME THINGS WE'VE DONE TO GET STUDENTS OUTSIDE FOR DINING AND FOR CLASSROOM.
UH, AND THE TOP OF THE SCREEN, YOU CAN SEE WHAT, UH, WE'D BE PROPOSING TO USE SOME, SOME DOLLARS FOR, FOR NEXT YEAR WITHIN THIS GOAL AREA.
MANY OF THESE ARE INCLUDED IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REQUESTS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED AND SETTINGS IN THE PAST.
SO GOAL THREE IS $202,000 IN EITHER STATE OR LOCAL DOLLARS, UH, AND ACTUALLY A DECREASE IN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THIS GOAL AREA, BECAUSE WE HAVE SPENT THOSE FUNDS IN THE PAST, AND WE WOULD NOT BE SPENDING THOSE IN THE FUTURE.
SO ACTUALLY THAT FEDERAL BUDGET WOULD BE DECREASED NEXT YEAR, AS A RESULT OF EXPANDING SOME OF THOSE FUNDS THIS YEAR.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO AS A SCHOOL DIVISION IS ANALYZE EVERY, EVERY BUDGET LINE AND MY DEPARTMENT HEADS AND OUR PRINCIPALS, WE MEET, WE SAY, DO YOU REALLY NEED THIS RESOURCE THIS YEAR? ARE YOU USING THIS IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO GET US THE BEST INVESTMENT FOR OUR FUNDS, AND CAN WE STRATEGICALLY ABANDON THIS PROGRAM OR THIS PROJECT AND USE THOSE FUNDS TO SUPPORT OUR OVERALL STRATEGIC INITIATIVES.
AND WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS NOW, UH, DURING MY TIME HERE, THIS IS OUR SIXTH BUDGET.
WE STILL TRY, FIND WAYS TO SAY, AH, ARE WE REALLY GETTING A RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT THAT WE WANT HERE? AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY $70,000 IN SAVINGS THROUGH STRATEGIC ABANDONMENT AND SAYING, WELL, LET'S LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MAYBE MANIPULATE SOME THINGS HERE AND USE THESE DOLLARS IN A DIFFERENT WAY TO SUPPORT OUR OVERALL STRATEGIC INITIATIVES.
SO IT ADDS UP $3,500 HERE, $2,000 THERE OVERALL RESULT OF $71,000.
AND WITH THE FEDERAL RESOURCES IT'S REDUCTION OF $15,000.
SO ULTIMATELY BOARD MEMBERS, WHEN IT COMES TO AN EXPENDITURE SUMMARY, UH, THIS IS A BUDGET THAT INCLUDES ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES OF 2.6 TO $6 MILLION.
I TALKED ABOUT THE 0.57 FTE AND GOAL ONE, UH, THE ONE FTE AND GOAL TWO IS A FEDERALLY FUNDED GRANT PHYSICIAN CALLED THE DEAN OF STUDENTS AT GOOCHLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL TO HELP SUPPORT THE BEHAVIORAL NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS AT GUCCI IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO A VERY, VERY MINOR INCREASE IN PERSONNEL RECOMMENDED IN THIS BUDGET.
THIS IS A SUMMARY OF WHERE THE DOLLARS IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET ARE GOING AND HAS IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN DEDICATING RESOURCES DIRECTLY TO THE CLASSROOM.
AND SO IF YOU ADD UP TO 72.6% AND YOU ADD UP THE DOLLARS THAT ARE DEDICATED TOWARDS TECHNOLOGY AT 6.8%, NEARLY 80 CENTS ON EVERY DOLLAR IS GOING DIRECTLY INTO THE CLASSROOM TO SUPPORT CLASSROOM INSTRUCTION IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET.
AND THEN IF YOU SLICE AND DICE THE PIE A DIFFERENT WAY, SALARY AND BENEFITS REMAIN OVER 80% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET.
AND THAT'S JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE BUSINESS THAT WE'RE IN.
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OUR STAFF TO CONTINUE OUR STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES AND CONTINUE THE SUCCESS AND EXCELLENCE OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION.WE ARE A PEOPLE HEAVY ORGANIZATION, AND THAT'S WHERE THE DOLLARS ARE GOING TO, AND THIS PROPOSED BUDGET.
SO THE BIG QUESTION IS AN INCREASE OF $2.6 MILLION.
WHERE DID THE RESOURCES COME FROM TO SUPPORT THAT? AND SO THIS BUDGET BOARD MEMBERS IS BASED OFF OF GOVERNOR NORTHAM INTRODUCED BUDGET IN DECEMBER.
AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE VERSION AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
UH, BUT THIS IS THE, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO BASE THIS RECOMMENDATION RIGHT NOW.
AND SO WHAT WE SEE IN THIS PROPOSAL IS AN INCREASE OF 19% AND THE STATE SALES TAX REVENUE, WHICH IS POSITIVE FOR US.
IT REALLY HELPS US, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST A RESULT OF, UM, THE SPENDING THAT TAKES PLACE ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH.
WE DO BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY RATHER THAN EXPECTING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT REVENUE.
WHAT IF THINGS HAPPEN? SO WE BUDGETED AT 97.5% OF WHAT WE PROJECT, JUST SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A CONSERVATIVE REVENUE ESTIMATE.
THERE ARE, YOU CAN SEE AN INCREASE IN OTHER STATE AID FROM 4.5 MILLION TO $4.8 MILLION, WHICH IS A 7.9% INCREASE, AND THEN A SLIGHT INCREASE IN FEDERAL AID AS WELL.
THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE HISTORY OVER TIME AND THE BLUE BARS ARE THE STATE SALES TAX PROJECTIONS.
UH, THROUGH 2021, THEY ARE FINAL FIGURES.
2022 IS A BUDGETED SALES TAX FIGURE.
AND 23 IS A BUDGETED SALES TAX FIGURE.
SO WE EXPECT $22 TO COME IN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN WE BUDGETED, BUT FOR PRESENTATION PURPOSES, THAT IS A BUDGET TO FIGURE IN 22.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'RE REALLY EXPECTING A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN SEAT STATE SALES TAX REVENUE YEAR OVER YEAR, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL REVENUE FROM THE STATE.
UH, WE CONTINUE TO REMAIN EXTREMELY THANKFUL FOR WHAT THIS COMMUNITY DOES TO SUPPORT PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY STRONG SUPPORTERS OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION AND HAVE PROVIDED YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASES TO SUPPORT OVERALL OPERATIONS.
SO THIS BUDGET IS BUILT WITH AN INCREASE IN LOCAL TRANSFER OF $1 MILLION THAT WAS REFERENCED TO MR. ALVAREZ, HIS PRESENTATION LAST WEEK, AND IT MIRRORS HIS RECOMMENDATION TO YOU A TOTAL OF $25.5 MILLION IN LOCAL TRANSFER YEAR OVER YEAR.
THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE DISTRIBUTION OF OVERALL FUNDS, INCLUDING STATE, FEDERAL LOCAL, AND OTHER MISCELLANEOUS REVENUE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT OVERALL THAT DISTRIBUTION HAS NOT CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, YOU DO SEE THE FEDERAL FUNDS IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, INCREASE A LITTLE BIT, AND THAT'S JUST THAT AS A RESULT OF WHAT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED WITH, UH, THE, THE INFUSION OF COVID DOLLARS THAT WILL NORMALIZE IN TIME, THAT WILL GO BACK TO BEING A MUCH SMALLER PORTION OF OUR BUDGET OVER TIME.
AND SO I'M GOING TO TALK IN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE PLAN ON ACCOMMODATING FOR THAT FUND FUNDING CLIFF WHEN THAT TIME DOES COME VERY, VERY SOON.
SO AGAIN, I'M PROUD TO PRESENT YOU A BALANCED BUDGET AND A RECOMMENDATION THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY BY OUR SCHOOL BOARD.
$2.6 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS IS MATCHED BY $2.6 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I KNOW PUBLIC SCHOOL DIVISIONS ARE BEING ASKED ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH AND ACROSS THE NATION, QUITE FRANKLY, IS, YOU KNOW, HOW OUR SCHOOL DIVISION SPENDING THEIR FEDERAL DOLLARS, SPECIFICALLY THEIR COVID DOLLARS AND WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHENEVER THOSE RESOURCES DWINDLE UP AND DRY UP.
AND SO WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS SCREEN ARE THREE DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY OF, OF FEDERAL FUNDS.
OKAY? SO I'M GOING TO START FROM THE RIGHT TITLE.
ONE, OUR FUNDS GO DIRECTLY TO BURT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UH, THAT'S A RESULT OF THE STUDENT DEMOGRAPHICS OF THAT SCHOOL TITLE FOR SOME MINOR SAFETY DOLLARS THAT WE GET THERE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE ARE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN IN OUR SCHOOL DIVISION FOR YEARS ARE LIKELY TO CONTINUE IN OUR SCHOOL DIVISION FOR YEARS.
AND WE'RE USING THOSE FUNDS TO PAY FOR 5.66 FTES IDEA, TITLE SIX B ARE FUNDS DEDICATED SPECIFICALLY TO MEETING THE NEEDS OF OUR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES.
AND WE FUND SOME STAFF THROUGH THAT.
YOU CAN SEE 8.3, FOUR FTES ARE FUNDED WITH THOSE TITLES, SIX B FUNDS THEY'RE FUNDS THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN THE BUDGET LIKELY TO CONTINUE TO STAY IN THE BUDGET.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY WORRY ABOUT THE FUNDING CLIFF WITH WHERE WE DO NEED TO FOCUS AS THESE COVID ARPA FUNDS.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING FOR NEXT YEAR IS REDUCING THE NUMBER OF STAFF THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY FUNDING WITH.
COVID ARPA FUNDS TO 10.51 STAFF FOR NEXT YEAR, AND THEN EVENTUALLY A TRANSITION PLAN AWAY FROM USING FEDERAL FUNDS.
IF WE EVEN CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE, THOSE POSITIONS, WHAT YOU SEE REALLY HERE IN THESE 10.51 FTES IS A REFLECTION OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE SEEN FROM A STUDENT BEHAVIORAL STANDPOINT THIS YEAR FROM A SOCIAL STANDPOINT, FROM A MENTAL HEALTH STANDPOINT THIS YEAR, UH, WE HAVE SEEN SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES IN MEETING THE NEEDS OF STUDENTS THROUGH THE PANDEMIC PANDEMIC
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WAS NOT KIND TO KIDS, UH, REGARDLESS OF A STUDENT'S BACKGROUND, WHETHER THEY CAME FROM A HOUSE WITH A WHOLE LOT OF FAMILY SUPPORT OR NO SUPPORT, EVERY STUDENT WAS REALLY IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC.AND WE'RE SEEING THAT WE'RE SEEING SOME CHALLENGES JUST FROM A BEHAVIORAL STANDPOINT AND FROM A SOCIAL STANDPOINT.
SO THE DEAN OF STUDENTS IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO SUPPORTING OUR STUDENTS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HELPING THEM MAKE BETTER CHOICES WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR BEHAVIOR INTERVENTIONISTS ARE HELPING US TO CLOSE THE GAP FROM AN ACADEMIC STANDPOINT AND PERMANENT SUBSTITUTES ALLOW US TO FILL IN SOME GAPS WHENEVER WE HAVE SOME STAFFING NEFF DEFICITS, AND ULTIMATELY SUPPORTING KIDS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE OUR FEDERAL FUNDS FOR, FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, AND THEN ULTIMATELY THE BOARD HAS CREATED A TRANSITION PLAN IS THIS IS WHERE THOSE RESOURCES WOULD GO FOR 22, 23, AND THEN ULTIMATELY DECIDING 23, 24 AND 24 25, DO WE DISCONTINUE THESE POSITIONS OR DO WE SAY, OKAY, WE HAVE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS.
WE HAVE TO CUT DOWN, OR WE'RE GOING TO FUND THEM.
ULTIMATELY THE SCHOOL BOARDS WANT TO HAVE TO PRIORITIZE AND SAY, WE WANT TO CONTINUE THESE POSITIONS WELL INTO THE FUTURE.
AND CERTAINLY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO, BASED ON SOME REVENUE RESTRICTIONS, BUT THE BOARD HAS THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND HAS CREATED A TRANSITION PLAN BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE KNOW THOSE RESOURCES ARE GOING TO DRY UP AND, UH, NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT FUNDING CLIFF THAT'S COMING.
SO THIS IS, UH, A PROPOSAL AT THIS POINT IN TIME, RECOGNIZING THAT TOPIC AS I HAVE IN THE PAST, UH, IF THERE IS ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE THAT COMES FROM ANY SORT OF SOURCE, UH, THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD AS NEXT TO BE FUNDED.
THESE ARE NOT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET RIGHT NOW, BUT ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE WOULD GO TOWARDS DEDICATING, UH, SUPPORT FOR THESE POSITIONS.
AND SO WE'VE DONE THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS MIDTERM NEEDS, AND LONG-TERM NEEDS THIS FROM A TIERED STANDPOINT.
SO HERE ARE A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO FUND.
SHOULD WE GET AN, ANY ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND THEN TIER TWO NEEDS, WHICH LIKELY WILL SHOW UP IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS POTENTIALLY.
UH, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE FORECASTING FOR THE FUTURE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY TIER THREE IS OUT THERE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, AND THESE MAY NOT BE NEEDS IN FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.
BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S JUST RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEED TO START TO THINK ABOUT THE LONGTERM, UM, PERSONNEL AND FACILITY AND, AND, UH, RESOURCE NEEDS THAT WE MAY HAVE AS A SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO IF WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL INTO YEAR FUNDS, THIS IS A PROPOSAL ON HOW WE MAY NEED TO USE THOSE FUNDS WITH ONE-TIME COSTS, CAPITAL COSTS THAT WOULD NOT BE RECURRING IN ANY SORT OF FUTURE FUTURE BUDGET.
SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED THOSE IF WE END THE YEAR WITH ANY SORT OF INTO YOUR SURPLUS.
SO I'M GOING TO PAUSE THERE FOR A SECOND, JUST TO GET, CATCH MY BREATH AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET REQUEST BOARD.
SO, UH, HAVEN'T SEEN THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME TODAY.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
SO ONE OF THEM IS, UH, AND IT'S KIND OF THE MOST RECENT HERE AND I'LL GO BACK IS USING THE COVID ARPA FUNDS FOR STAFFING.
AND THAT'S A ONE TIME, UM, ONE TIME REVENUE USING USED FOR STAFFING.
NOW, ARE YOU SAYING THAT IN THIS BUDGET, THE 23 PROPOSED BUDGET THAT ALL THOSE 10.5, WHATEVER, THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS THAT IS, THEY ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT COVERED BY THE ARPAC COVID FUNDS, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS WITH LIKE THE BENEFITS, THE INSURANCE AND ALL THAT WE PAY THAT THEY'RE PAID FOR? THEY ARE PAID OUT OF THE GRANT FUNDS.
AND HOW MUCH, AND I SEE THAT YOU'VE GOT A PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AS THOSE FUNDS GO AWAY.
IS THIS THE LAST FULL YEAR? WE WILL GET THOSE FUNDS, UH, 23, UH, I BELIEVE WE COULD GET THEM THROUGH THE 24 FISCAL YEAR AS WELL.
SO WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER YEAR AFTER THIS.
AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT.
CAUSE THAT'S LIKE A GOLDEN RULE THAT YOU DON'T DO THAT TO HIRE STAFF WITH A ONE-TIME FUNDS.
SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT.
UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PROJECTED, IF YOU DON'T MIND, OBVIOUSLY JUST GOT LIKE A HOSTED.
SO YOU TALKED ABOUT WHAT YOU MIGHT DO WITH A TURNBACK.
DO YOU HAVE AN ESTIMATE AT THIS POINT OF THE AMOUNT OF WE DON'T? WE, WE USUALLY GET A PRETTY GOOD INDICATION DURING THE LAST QUARTER OF THE YEAR.
SO AFTER WE RUN OUR MARCH PAYROLL, WE'LL HAVE A PRETTY GOOD FEEL FOR THINGS.
WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT QUITE HONESTLY, ARE FUEL COSTS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE RIGHT NOW.
AND SO, UH, THERE'S VERY LITTLE CONTINGENCY IN OUR BUDGET TO ABSORB SOME OF THOSE, THOSE CHALLENGES.
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AND SO WE'LL HAVE A BETTER FEEL IN THE LAST QUARTER.AND, AND I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EARLY FOR THAT.
UM, ON YOUR, AND YOU FLASHED THROUGH THAT PRETTY QUICKLY.
AND MAYBE I NEED TO GO BACK AND JUST STUDY IT.
I JUST, UM, AM CURIOUS AT HOW CONFIDENT YOU ARE ABOUT THOSE REVENUE STREAMS. AND I KNOW THE STATE BUDGET, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW WHAT, AND THERE'S COMPETING BUDGETS BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE.
SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE THAT'S ALL GOING TO LAND YET.
I THINK THE SALES TAX REVENUE WILL HOLD STRONG AND TRUE.
I HAVEN'T HEARD MUCH CHATTER ABOUT ANY SORT OF CHANGES TO THAT PROJECTION.
UH, THE HOUSE AND SENATE VERSION, AS YOU REFERENCED THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, UH, ULTIMATELY I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY SIGNIFICANT NEGATIVE IMPACT IN STATE REVENUE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK LEGISLATORS HAVE, HAVE TALKED ABOUT SUPPORTING PUBLIC EDUCATION AND I KNOW GOVERNOR YUNCKEN, UH, IS, IS SUPPORTING PUBLIC EDUCATION.
SO I DON'T EXPECT ANY SORT OF NEGATIVE CHANGE IN STATE REVENUE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AS WE KNOW, THIS IS A PROCESS THAT GOES THROUGH MID APRIL.
UH, SO IF WE GET SOME ALTERNATIVE NEWS, WE'RE CERTAINLY SHARE THAT WITH YOU, IF IT WOULD HAVE ANY SORT OF IMPACT IN A NEGATIVE, RIGHT.
THE VETO SESSION IS NOT TILL THE END OF APRIL, SO WE STILL GOT PLENTY OF TIME FOR THAT.
UM, DO YOU DO THE SCHOOLS AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, SO I'M JUST MAY AS WELL ADMIT IT, BUT, UM, DO THE SCHOOLS GET ANY OF THE GROCERY TAX REVENUE? YEAH.
SO THIS IS BASED OFF OF GOVERNOR NORTHAM, HIS BUDGET, WHICH HAD A GROCERY TAX HOLD HARMLESS IN THERE.
SO IF THAT, THAT VARIABLE IS MANIPULATED IN ANY WAY, THEN IT COULD IMPACT THAT SALES TAX PROJECTION.
SO YES, WE, WE ARE THE BENEFICIARIES OF THE GROCERY SALES TAX.
I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE.
SO, UM, THAT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT, YEAH.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE.
UM, YOU HAD REFERENCED, UM, THE $12 AN HOUR, UM, RATE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
WOULD YOU MAKE THAT EFFECTIVE? JANUARY ONE WOULD MAKE THAT EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST.
THAT'S THAT'S TYPICALLY OUR CONTRACT SEASON.
WE START WITH NEW CONTRACTS JULY 1ST.
AND SO, UH, IN THERE FOR THAT THAT'S ENTRY LEVEL FOR US, FOR EXAMPLE, PART-TIME CUSTODIANS, THAT WOULD BE THEIR, THEIR BEGINNING PAY, UH, WITH OUR NEW CONTRACT, EVEN THOUGH THE LAW DOESN'T CHANGE THE JANUARY ONE.
UM, YOU HAD REFERENCED THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS.
SO RIGHT NOW, AND I KNOW IT'S A PROJECTION AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FACTORS HOLDING KIND OF STEADY ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS BUILDING THIS BUDGET OFF OF 2,500 STUDENTS, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT AVERAGE DAILY MEMBERSHIP PROJECTION.
SO IT'S STAGNANT, NO GROWTH, NO DECLINE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE BUILDING THIS ONE.
UH, SOMETHING ELSE HAD CROSSED MY MIND, BUT I'VE FORGOTTEN IT NOW, SO I'LL LET YOU GO.
MR. LOCK-INS MR. PEARSON ALL THE TIME.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO START OUT WITH A 30,000 FOOT HERE, AND IT'S JUST, IT'S A PLEASURE TO SIT HERE AND HAVE YOU PRESENTED A BUDGET THAT DOVETAILS AND MATCHES THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY BUDGET? THAT IS A PLEASURE.
UM, IT'S ALSO A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU PRESENT TO US A BALANCED BUDGET.
THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY GOOD STUFF.
SOMETHING CITIZENS MAY OR MAY NOT APPRECIATE IS, UM, AND WE JUST WENT THROUGH THE CREDIT RATING.
PRESENTATIONS WAS THAT YOUR ENROLLMENT REALLY OVER THE LAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS HAS BEEN RELATIVELY STABLE.
THERE HASN'T BEEN TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS, RIGHT? OVERWHELMING OUR SCHOOLS, WHICH IS GOOD AND BAD.
CAUSE WE HAD SOME MONEY FROM THE STATE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS, BUT IT HASN'T PUT A LOT OF STRAIN OR PRESSURE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEING, NOT SEEING A LOT OF FTES CORRECT IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FULL-TIME STUDENTS UNDER THE FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT.
SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I'LL HIGHLIGHT.
SO ALL OF THOSE ARE GOOD STUFF.
UM, NOW WE GET TO GRANULAR LEVEL DOWN TO THAT LEVEL.
UM, I HAVE, UH, UH, IN OUR BOARD PACKET ON PAGE 93 WAS A TRANSMITTAL LETTER THAT YOU HAD PROVIDED TO US WHEN YOU TRANSMITTED THE BUDGET TO THE COUNTY SIDE.
AND IT, I DON'T BELIEVE I CAUGHT IT IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT ONE OF THE LINE ITEMS THAT, UM, CAUGHT MY ATTENTION WAS THE TRANSPORTATION.
UM, FIND THE CATEGORY ACTUALLY HAD A DECLINE OF 4.4%.
I LOOK AT THE PRICE, I THINK, HOW CAN YOU TRANSPORT CHILDREN FOR LESS MONEY THIS YEAR THAN YOU DID LAST YEAR? IS THERE ANY COLOR YOU CAN GIVE US AROUND THAT? THAT, YEAH, I, I WANT TO CELEBRATE MS. ROSIE HOLEMAN.
WHO'S OUR DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION WHO CONTINUES TO FINE TUNE
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OUR ROUTES AND PROVIDE EFFICIENCIES WHERE WE CAN IDENTIFY SAVINGS JUST FROM AN OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT.IT'S THAT? AND QUITE HONESTLY, IT'S THE STAGGERED STARTS THAT WE ARE IMPLEMENTING THIS YEAR THAT WE PILOTED LAST YEAR, WE HAVE LESS DRIVERS.
UH, SO WE HAVE LESS FTES THERE.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO FUND SOME PERSONNEL SAVINGS AND THERE'S JUST THROUGH THE EFFICIENCIES AND ROUTING, WE'RE ABLE TO SAVE SOME DOLLARS.
UH, WHAT I DO WORRY ABOUT QUITE HONESTLY, LONG-TERM IS THAT GAP CATEGORY, ESPECIALLY WHAT'S MAYBE HAPPENING WORLDWIDE AND HOW THAT MAY IMPACT FUEL PRICES.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO MONITOR THAT, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO NARROW THOSE MARGINS WITHIN THAT BUDGET LINE.
UM, THAT'S STAGGERED STARTS REDESIGNING HOW YOU DO THINGS AS OPPOSED TO JUST TRYING TO SQUEEZE MORE OUT OF THE SAME, WHICH IS GOOD, THAT, THAT STRATEGIC REDESIGN.
I KNOW THE COMPETITION FOR TRUCK DRIVERS IS UP THERE.
I KNOW WAGES ARE GOING, I KNOW THE FUEL IS GOING, AND IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WAYS TO GET KIDS SAFELY IN THEIR SEATS FOR LESS MONEY.
THAT'S ALL I HAD AT THIS POINT.
I HAVE SOME THINGS ON THE CIP, BUT THAT'S FOR LATER.
LASTLY THING, JUST CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN, ON ALL THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BEING THE BEST IN THE REGION.
IT'S JUST, IT SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT YOUR STAFF AND, UM, AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED WITH WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.
UM, AND THEY COVERED A FEW THINGS, BUT I'LL START OUT THAT GOING, MR. PETERSON, THANK YOU.
AND THANK THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR PRESENTING A BALANCED BUDGET WITHIN, WITHIN THE NUMBERS THAT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AND HELPFUL TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I'M NOT GOING TO GO IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER.
I'M JUST GOING TO PICK THEM OFF HERE AS I W WHERE DO YOU GET THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT I'VE BEEN FIVE AND A HALF, FIVE AND A HALF YEARS ON NOW, SIX AND A HALF YEARS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD.
AND, UH, IF NOT FURTHER, I GET AWAY FROM IT.
I'M GETTING MORE COMFORTABLE THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T NEED TO GET MY CLAWS INTO IT SO DEEPLY, BUT I STILL LOOK AT THE SALARIES.
AND I REMEMBER THE DISCUSSIONS, EVEN YOU AND I HAD YOUR TEAM ABOUT THAT CHALLENGE.
AND IT CONTINUES TO BE A CHALLENGE FOR YOU.
AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE MEETING IT.
THE RED SQUARES, I KNOW YOU PRESENT THEM BECAUSE THEY BOTHERED YOU.
AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT WHERE DO YOU GET THE ASSUMPTION OF A 5% INCREASE IN THE, IN THE OTHER COMPETING? YEAH, PURE ASSUMPTION IN QUITE HONESTLY, IT'S A LOW ASSUMPTION.
UH, THAT'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT'S BASED OFF OF GOVERNOR NORTHAM, HIS RECOMMENDED BUDGET, THAT 5% SALARY INCREASE LOCALITY'S NOR TO ACCEPT THOSE FUNDS NEED TO GIVE THE SAME.
SO, UH, THERE ARE SCHOOL DIVISIONS GIVING A FIVE THAT ARE PRESENTING AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
OTHERS THAT ARE GOING MORE THAN THAT, BUT IT WAS A BASELINE ASSUMPTION SAYING IF WE DO THIS AND THEY DO THAT, ARE WE GOING TO GAIN ANY GROUND? SO THAT 5% OF HIS BUDGET IS PURE TEACHER SALARIES.
I BELIEVE IT'S OVERALL, BUT I'M APPLYING IT TOWARDS TEACHERS.
SO, UH, WHAT, AND THIS IS SOMETHING I SHOULD KNOW, BUT I'LL ASK YOU, AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. ALVAREZ AFTER THIS ONE, THE $1 MILLION INCREASE REFLECTS WHAT PERCENTAGE IT'S 4%, 4% LOCAL WILL INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR 4% LOCAL INCREASE.
YOU SAID 2,500, YOU ANSWERED 2,500 ADM.
OUR LCI HASN'T CHANGED OBVIOUSLY.
I PARTICIPATION IN THAT, UM, W NUMBER THAT SURPRISED ME, WE WENT FROM 69 TO 65% OF THE TOTAL BUDGET.
UH, OUR LOCAL CONTRIBUTION WENT FROM 69 TO 65% HISTORICALLY.
DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S CAUSE WHEN MY RECOLLECTION WAS, IT WAS EVEN HIGHER THAN IT'S TYPICALLY HIGH SIXTIES, LOW SEVENTIES.
AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST A REFLECTION OF SOME OF THE INFUSION OF FEDERAL RESOURCES THAT HAVE KIND OF IMPACTED THAT PROPORTION.
AND ANOTHER THING, AND AGAIN, I'M FOCUSING BECAUSE SALARIES IS SUCH A BIG PART IN THE DISCUSSIONS THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH, THAT WE HAD.
WE'RE ALWAYS TELLING THEM WE'RE HAVING SAME THING ON THE COUNTY SIDE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY YOUR COMPENSATION IS NOT ALL IN IT'S IT'S.
I MEAN, THE NUMBERS YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SALARY AND NOT ALL IN COMPENSATION, THEY DON'T COUNT BENEFITS.
I MEAN, SO THIS PRESENTATION HAS AN INCREASE OF 3% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE BENEFITS.
UH, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE BOARD ON MONDAY NIGHT IS OUR NEWEST VERSION OF HEALTH INSURANCE RATES, WHICH WE EXPECT WILL BE LESS THAN 3%.
SO WE COULD USE ANY SORT OF BENEFIT SAVINGS TOWARDS ACCOMPLISHING SOME OTHER STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES HERE FROM OUR FINANCE FOLKS IS NET ZERO.
THAT'S, THAT'S, WE'RE TOLD AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AND WE'RE GOING TO SHARE THAT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD, UH, ON, ON MONDAY.
WELL, THREE OF THEM WERE ALREADY HERE.
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THAT'S A POSITIVE, IT'S A SAVINGS OF ABOUT $91,000.I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN THEN PLOW INTO THOSE TIER ONE, UM, NEEDS.
AND I'LL JUST GO ON A LITTLE TANGENT ON THE INSURANCE THING.
UM, YOU KNOW, ON MY TIME DOING THIS, I'VE NOTICED THE BOARDS WERE PART THAT CAME BACK TOGETHER AND THEY MAY BE DRIFTING APART IN TERMS OF STAYING ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT OBVIOUSLY HOW YOU STRUCTURE THE HEALTH BENEFITS IMPACTS OUR EXPERIENCE MORE, MORE THAN THE COUNTY SIDE.
CAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT MORE EMPLOYEES ON THE SCHOOL BOARD SIDE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I KNOW WE'VE BEEN PRESSING OUR, OUR STAFF TO LOOK AT AS WE CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD.
SO I HOPE WE CAN COORDINATE ON THAT EFFORT.
UH, I THINK THERE'S SOME WAYS TO JUST PROTECT OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT AS AN ORGANIZATION AND, AND FACILITATE THE RIGHT MIX OF BENEFITS TO OUR EMPLOYEES.
BUT, UH, BACK TO ON TRACK HERE, THE, UM, MO THE THING ON THE SALARY, YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION AS YOU HAVE MORE OPENINGS IN THE PAST, BECAUSE LET ME BACK UP, THAT WAS ALWAYS MY QUESTION TO YOU.
LIKE, HEY, WE'RE FEELING THIS PRESSURE.
WELL, I'M LIKE, ARE PEOPLE LEAVING OR PEOPLE WALKING IN SAYING, I'M GOING TO LEAVE IF YOU DON'T AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, YOU DON'T WANT THE RESPONSE I'VE GOTTEN IS WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
BUT THAT, THAT SLIDE YOU HAD WITH THE MANUAL VICE I'M GLAD YOU HAD THAT IN THERE BECAUSE THERE ARE REASONS TO WORK IN GOOCHLAND BESIDES SALARY.
AND I, I CONTEND ON THE COUNTY SIDE, THERE'S LOTS OF REASONS TO WORK IN GOOCHLAND OR NOT, BUT I GET WHAT YOU SAY.
WE'RE FEELING THAT PINCH NOW MORE THAN EVER MR. LUMPKINS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE THOSE INTANGIBLES THAT HAVE MADE US, YOU KNOW, THAT DESTINATION LOCATION FOR EMPLOYMENT.
BUT I TALKED TO AN EMPLOYEE TODAY.
IT SAID, LOOK, I DRIVE BY FOUR MIDDLE SCHOOLS ON MY WAY TO WORK.
AND I CAN WORK IN THAT OTHER SCHOOL DIVISION AND MAKE $10,000 MORE.
AND WE'RE AT THAT POINT NOW WHERE PEOPLE WERE REALLY LOOKING AT THAT WHERE MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T IN THE PAST, IT'S JUST A RESULT OF ECONOMIC FACTORS.
AND, UH, SO THAT'S A CONVERSATION THAT OUR EMPLOYEES ARE TALKING ABOUT MORE THAN THEY EVER HAVE.
AND SO, UH, JUST REALLY HYPERSENSITIVE TO THAT RIGHT NOW.
AND LET ME JUMP OUT TO THAT, BECAUSE WHEN YOU SAY THAT WE HAVE MORE OPENINGS IN THE PAST, MY ANECDOTAL AND ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE WITH DAN, MY GUT TELLS ME ALL SCHOOLS ARE HAVING IT BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS, TEACHERS, YOUNGER FOLKS THAT MY CHILDREN KNOW, OR JUST LIKE, I'M NOT SURE THIS IS FOR ME RIGHT NOW AFTER, PARTICULARLY AFTER PANDEMIC MESS.
SO ARE OTHERS BECAUSE IF OTHER SCHOOL DIVISIONS ARE HAVING THE SAME EXPERIENCE, THEN I WOULD SAY THAT ARGUES AGAINST, OH, WE HAVE MORE OPENINGS THAN WE HAVE ERGO SALARIES.
THE ISSUE IT MIGHT BE GOING BACK TO THE INTANGIBLES MIGHT BE WHAT BRINGS THEM BACK.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A MORE COMPETITIVE MARKET, MR. LUMPKINS THAN I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED IN MY NINE YEARS BEING A SUPERINTENDENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC EDUCATION HAS BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AT KITCHEN TABLES.
AND THERE ARE FOLKS WHO ARE DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO BE A PUBLIC EDUCATOR AND GET INTO THE PROFESSION.
AND IT'S REALLY, REALLY DRAINED THE PIPELINE QUITE HONESTLY.
AND SO IF YOU'RE A TALENTED TEACHER, YOU CAN WRITE YOUR OWN TICKET AND GO WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO RIGHT NOW BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT THAT EXPERIENCE.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST CREATED A CHALLENGE IN THE MARKET THAT, UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO REALLY WORK THROUGH IN THE PAST.
WELL, YOU ALL HAVE GIVEN IT A LOT OF THOUGHT.
AND AGAIN, I'M WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS REALLY APPRECIATE THE BALANCED BUDGET.
I'LL GO TO YOUR PAGE 89 TIER ONE SLIDE THAT IF YOU DON'T NEED TO GO TO IT, I'M JUST, I'M JUST MENTIONING THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS ON THE LOOKOUT FOR.
YOU HAD, YOU HAD, WHAT'S YOUR SALARY FOR THE TOP BULLET, I THINK HAD HAD A 50,000 NUMBER THERE, BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE, UM, A DOLLAR AMOUNT NEXT TO EACH BULLET.
OR DO YOU HAVE A DOLLAR FOR THE WHOLE BUCKET? WE HAVE DOLLAR AMOUNTS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE BULLETS THAT I'VE SHARED WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD.
I JUST DIDN'T PUT THEM IN THIS PRESENTATION.
WELL, I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE SUPERVISORS.
AND DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK FIGURE OF WHAT? I GUESS ONE OF THE WAY I WROTE THE QUESTION BEFORE I SAW THE SLIDE WAS HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL DOLLARS ARE NEEDED FOR YOU TO MEET SOME OF THE THINGS YOU'RE LEAVING ON THE TABLE.
I, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A FALSE NUMBER PUBLICLY.
I'M HAPPY TO TOTAL THAT UP AND SHARE THAT WITH YOU FOLLOWING THIS MEETING.
YEAH, THAT'S IT, IT'S JUST MORE MONEY.
IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HEAR, SEE SOME OF THE DOLLAR FIGURES NEXT TO THOSE ITEMS. HELPFUL.
UH, WE'LL WE'LL WE'LL, I'LL SEND THAT TO THEM FOLLOWING THE MEETING.
RELEASE THAT TO THE BOARD LATER.
THANK YOU, MS. JONES, ONE VERY SPECIFIC VERY QUICKLY.
IT MIGHT BE A SUGGESTED AS MUCH AS THERE'S A QUESTION.
COULD YOU GO BACK IF YOU COULD, TO THE MEDIAN VERSUS AND THIS WOULD BE THE AFTER
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NOT THE BEFORE, IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET TO THAT SLIDE OR TWO? IS THAT WASN'T MEANT TO BE A TRICK QUESTION, BUT THERE IS A VERY SPECIFIC QUESTION.AND, UH, ONCE YOU HEAL BACK ON YOUR TIME, UM, YEAH, BUT I REHEARSED THAT SOME OF MY YIELD ESCALATE, I TOOK NOTES.
THIS IS NEW TIME, NOT THE OLD TIME.
THIS IS, UH, TAKING SOME OF YOUR HALF HOUR THAT YOU DIDN'T USE.
IS THIS, I THINK THIS IS, AND THIS IS THE AFTER THE 6%, UM, AS I, UM, TWO OR THREE THINGS FOR ME, THAT ONE IS THE PEER GROUP INCLUDES LARGE COUNTIES AND SMALL COUNTIES AND PRETTY BIG DISTINCTION BETWEEN THOSE, I THINK NUMBER ONE, ACROSS THE BOARD WHO HAPPENED TO BE THE BIGGEST COUNTY WITH THE BIGGEST CHECKBOOK AND MAYBE IT'S NUMBER TWO, BUT YOU GET THE IDEA.
SO BE INTERESTING TO KNOW HOW WE FARE AGAINST OUR DIRECT COMPETITORS VERSUS OUR BORDERING.
AND I KNOW THE BORDERS ARE YOUR COMPETITION, BUT THE DIRECT COMPETITION IS FOLKS THAT CAN AFFORD.
THAT'S AN INTERESTING, DON'T NEED TO DO IT NOW, BUT THAT'S AN INTERESTING WAY TO LOOK AT BOTH WAYS.
SO HERE'S ALL OUR BORDERS AND HERE'S THE ONES THAT HAVE THE SAME SIZE CHECKBOOK WE DO.
DID YOU FIND RESPOND TO TEACHERS TO HENRICO CHESTERFIELD AND RICHMOND? WE DON'T LOSE AS MANY TEACHERS DO FULL OF ANNA AND LOUISA AND POWELTON.
SO IT'S THOSE SCHOOL DIVISIONS TO THE EAST WHERE BIGGER CHECKBOOKS, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COMPETE.
UH, I DON'T THINK OF THAT DIRECTLY.
UM, THE SECOND THING, UM, AND IT'S REALLY MORE THAN SPECIFIC ON THIS ONE.
IT LOOKS LIKE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WE'RE JUST, JUST RIGHT ABOUT THERE 15 TO 25.
WE START TO FALL OFF A BIT, BUT LET'S JUST STAY WITH THE ZERO TO 10.
SO IF I READ THIS CORRECTLY, WE'RE $634 A YEAR BELOW THE MEDIAN, INCLUDING LARGE AND SMALLS FOR ZERO.
UM, IT'D BE HELPFUL TO ME, AT LEAST IN THIS BOARD TO SAY, CAN YOU UNDER THAT 6 34, CAN YOU PUT THE PERCENT? SO WE KNOW THAT WITH A 1% INCREASE, WE JUMPED FROM RED SEVEN TO BRING THREE OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE MAGNITUDE ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS.
SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET OF A PERCENTAGE BASIS, 6.1% INCREASE WITH A 6.2 INCREASE, WE'D BE IN THE MEDIA THAT WOULD HELP US TO KNOW HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO BEING IN THAT MEDIAN ON A PERCENTAGE BASIS.
CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE WAY YOU PRESENTED THE BUDGET.
SO THAT'S JUST A SUGGESTION AS MUCH AS ANYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE PRETTY DARN CLOSE.
AND IF I'M DRIVING PAST TWO OF THE SCHOOLS AND SEE, I CAN MAKE 139 MORE DOLLARS A YEAR WITH FIVE YEARS EXPERIENCE, IS THAT ENOUGH TO SAY ANYWAY, YOU GET THE IDEA.
WHILE YOU'RE ON THE SLIDE DOCTOR REALLY SOMETHING'S MISSING.
SO WE WERE, WE'RE SAYING A 5% INCREASE ON THE TOP.
IT SAYS A 6.1, 4%, 6.14 IS THE SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO IF THIS IS A HYPOTHETICAL, IF GOOCHLAND GIVES A 6% RAISE AND EVERYBODY ELSE GIVES A 5% RAISE, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEW REGIONAL MEDIAN? WHAT WOULD BE GOOCHLAND NEW SALARY AND WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENTIAL? RIGHT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT PIECE, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.
THIS IS, I THOUGHT WE WERE PROPOSING 5% INCREASE, BUT WHAT ARE WE SAYING? IT'S A SIX, 6.14 SPECIFICALLY FOR TEACHERS.
5% FOR OTHER EMPLOYEE GROUPS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF SOME OF OUR HOURLY EMPLOYEES.
UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN IT? OUR TEACHERS 12 MONTH CONTRACTS ARE 10 MONTH.
THEY ARE PAID OVER THE COURSE OF 12 MONTHS, BUT THEY ARE EMPLOYED FOR 200 DAYS, 200 DAYS.
SO WHEN WE HAVE, I LIKE THE, THE, THE PROPOSED NEW SCHEDULES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, DOES THAT INCLUDE, WILL THE 200 DAYS INCLUDE, UM, THOSE DAYS.
SO WE HAVE THE T OUR TEACHERS WANT A SIZE UP TO DO AN INTERSESSION PERIOD.
IS THAT ADDITIONAL COMPENSATION OR IS IT, IS IT IN THEIR CURRENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? UM, OF COURSE WE PRESS PAUSE ON THAT CONVERSATION FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO REINVIGORATE THAT IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, UH, ANY SORT OF BALANCED CALENDAR WOULD NOT CHANGE A TEACHER'S CONTRACT, JUST STILL BE EMPLOYED FOR 200 DAYS AND ANYTHING THEY WOULD WORK ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT.
SO THE TEACHER WORKS ABOVE THAT.
SO THERE IS, THEY CAN EARN ADDITIONAL, THEY CAN FOR DOING SUMMER SCHOOL AND POTENTIALLY INTERCESSION WORK OR ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, THAT CONTRACT ON THE QUESTION I HAD.
SO YES, THE SAME APPRECIATION.
I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS SITTING IN SUSAN'S WHERE SUSAN IS NOW.
I THINK I MADE A COMMENT, LIKE I SAID, THIS COULD BE REALLY BAD NEXT YEAR.
SO I'M ACTUALLY NOT SURPRISED TO SEE THIS BECAUSE I THINK WE SORT OF SAW IT COMING.
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ONE OF THE THINGS, I THINK THE MOST SURPRISING THING THAT, AND IT'S BEEN A MINUTE SINCE I'VE HAD A CHILD IN SCHOOL, BUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC, THERE WAS THIS ALMOST AS MUCH FOCUS ON THE FEEDING PROGRAMS AS THERE WAS ON GETTING THE INSTITUTIONAL.SO IT REALLY SHOWED THE, HOW MUCH THE COMMUNITY RELIES ON THE SCHOOLS AS A FEEDING PROGRAM IN THE BUDGETS.
I DON'T SEE ANY, ANYTHING REFERENCING THAT.
SO I'M CURIOUS, AND I KNOW SOME OF IT COMES FROM OTHER FUNDS, BUT WHAT OF THE LOOK OUR LOCAL TAX DOLLARS GOES TO THE FEEDING PROGRAM? YEAH, SO ULTIMATELY THAT IS A SELF-SUSTAINING PROGRAM.
GENERALLY THE REVENUE FOR OUR FOOD SERVICE PROGRAM COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, LARGELY A LITTLE BIT OF STATE DOLLARS HERE OR THERE.
AND THEN IT COMES FROM INDIVIDUAL SALES THAT YOU ARE A PAYING CUSTOMER.
WHAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN THE LAST TWO YEARS IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN SUBSIDIZING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT PROGRAM.
AND YOU HAVEN'T PAID, HAD TO PAY FOR MEALS.
THE UNKNOWN IS WHAT HAPPENS AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WHEN THOSE RESOURCES GO AWAY, HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT OUR BUDGET.
UM, SO WHAT WE ARE BUDGETING FOR IS A FEW LOCAL DOLLARS, 35, $40,000 TO BALANCE THAT BUDGET BECAUSE ULTIMATELY FOOD COSTS ARE RISING.
THE FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE FOR ALL THAT.
AND WE HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE SOME LOCAL DOLLARS, BUT IT'S, IT'S APPROXIMATELY $50,000 TO HELP BALANCE THAT BUDGET.
AND ONE LAST, I THINK ONE LAST QUESTION.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING BROADBAND, I KNOW THERE WAS A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET FOR ALL THE DEVICES THAT WE HAD OUT AND WE WERE PAYING FOR THOSE SERVICES.
DO YOU, HAS YOUR, YOU AND YOUR BOARD TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE POLICY IS GOING TO BE, AS PEOPLE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET INTERNET, IF WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE COVERING THOSE COSTS OR HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK.
WHAT WE SEE AS A WEANING AWAY OF THOSE DEVICES THAT WE HAVE CONTRIBUTED HAVE SUPPORTED.
THERE ARE A FEW DOLLARS IN WHAT I SHARED WITH YOU AND THE FEDERAL FUNDS AND GO AREA THREE.
UH, BUT IT'S LESS THAN IT IS IN THE CURRENT BUDGET.
AND I EXPECT IS, YOU KNOW, ONE EVENTUALLY WEAN ITS WAY AWAY BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WITH INCREASED BROADBAND, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE A PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR BROADBAND VERSUS, YOU KNOW, SCHOOL DIVISION'S RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THAT.
AND SO WHAT WE SEE AS THIS STEADY WEANING AWAY OF PROVIDING THOSE DEVICES AND SUPPORT.
THAT WAS JUST, I SAW THIS EARLIER.
I SKIPPED IT, BUT SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS HAS BEEN GOING BACK TO IT KIND OF IN THE CATEGORY OF WHEN I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, LIKE NO TELLING WHAT HE'S GOING TO LATCH ON TO AND IN A PRESENTATION, BUT LIKE OLD TIMES HERE, I JUST WENT FROM LEFT FIELD, A STIPEND FOR GRADE LEVEL LEADERSHIP WAS AT THE BOTTOM OF TIER THREE.
AND THAT CAUGHT MY EYE THINKING, ARE YOU GUYS LOOKING AT LIKE A CAREER LADDER KIND OF THING? AND YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST, JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S PART OF A BIGGER, BIGGER IT'S.
SO THAT PARTICULAR ITEM IS JUST A RECOGNITION OF THE WORK THAT PEOPLE DO ABOVE AND BEYOND THEIR CONTRACT TIME THAT THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY COMPENSATING FOR, IF I AM THE THIRD GRADE TEACHER AT RANDOLPH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND I HAVE FOUR OTHER COLLEAGUES AND I'M ORGANIZING THEM FROM A LEADERSHIP STANDPOINT REGARDING MATERIALS AND SUPPLIES WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO ON FIELD TRIPS AND ORGANIZING THE EVENTS OF THE DAY, I'M GETTING PAID MY SAME HOURLY RATE.
AND SO THIS IS JUST A MINOR RECOMMENDATION.
I THINK IT WAS A PROPOSAL FOR LIKE $250 PER TEACHER, JUST TO RECOGNIZE THOSE ADDITIONAL LEADERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, KIND OF A CAREER IN THE MIX.
DO YOU HAVE KIND OF A CAREER, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CHANGE FROM TRADITIONAL SCALES? YOU KNOW, YOU HEAR IT FOR 5, 10, 15, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE TRIED TO BUILD IN SOME CAREER LADDERS TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF THOSE GROWTH OPPORTUNITIES FOR TEACHERS.
UH, WE HAVE ADDED A FEW MORE, WHAT I'M GOING TO CALL 11 MONTH TEACHERS TO HELP US WITH CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING FOR SOME OF THE INSTRUCTIONAL NEEDS.
WE HAVE, WE'VE ADDED A FEW OF THOSE OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
WE'VE PRESSED HOLD ON THAT FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT ULTIMATELY I'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE TEACHERS ON AN 11 MONTH CONTRACT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME CAREER LADDER OPPORTUNITIES.
SO, UM, CHAIRMAN SPOON HOUR BROUGHT THIS UP, SO I'M JUST WANTING TO GO FULL CIRCLE RIGHT NOW, THIS BUDGET, THIS PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, THAT WILL EXPIRE, UH, JULY, JUNE 30TH, 23.
YES MA'AM DOES NOT INCLUDE THE BALANCED CALENDAR.
IT HAS A SET ASIDE FOR THOSE DOLLARS, BUT IT'S NOT EXTENDING THOSE DOLLARS PENDING SCHOOL BOARD APPROVAL.
IT'S IT'S IN ONE OF THOSE FEDERAL SET ASIDES.
AND I DON'T KNOW THE GOAL AREA RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT'S, IT'S IT'S I THINK IT'S GO WHERE YOU ONE, THERE'S SOME DOLLARS THAT ARE SET ASIDE, UH, BUT MAY NOT BE SPENT IF THE SCHOOL BOARD DOESN'T GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
SO IT'S JUST RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE THOSE GRANT FUNDS THEY'VE BEEN APPROPRIATED.
WE MAY OR MAY NOT SPEND THOSE DEPENDING ON WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD.
SO THE MONEY IS SET ASIDE IN THE GRANTS.
I BELIEVE IT IS, IS PLANNED FOR IN THIS BUDGET.
UH, BUT IF IT'S NOT SPENT, THEY'LL WILL JUST
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REVERT BACK TO THE, UH, MS. WHITE.AND WE HELPED ME ON THAT ONE COME ON UP FEDERAL GRANTS, ONE EXPIRE NEXT YEAR.
SO SEPTEMBER 20, 23 AND THE SECOND ONE EXPIRES SEPTEMBER, 2024.
AND SO, BECAUSE WE PAUSED ON THE BALANCED CALENDAR, WE'RE USING IT TO BEEF UP THIS YEAR, SUMMER PROGRAM, AND NEXT YEAR, SUMMER PROGRAM.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA USE THIS AS MUCH AS WE CAN OF THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS, UM, FOR ALL OF OUR EXPANDED PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, UM, WITHOUT THE BALANCED CALENDAR, WE'RE, WE'RE, UM, WE'RE DOING SOME PILOT INTERCESSIONS, SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND THEY CAN START THINKING IN THEIR MINDS, STAFF AND, AND COMMUNITY, WHAT, WHAT AN INTERSECTIONAL WEEK WOULD LOOK LIKE.
MS. SMITH, MS. LASKA, LET THAT SLIDE 35, THE SECOND LINE DOWN $356,819.
THAT'S BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THIS, SO YEAH.
I'LL ABSOLUTELY HIGHLIGHT THAT FOR YOU.
UM, AND I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GOING TO, YOU'RE GOING TO SEND US THIS.
SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE TELLING THEM WE'VE GOT A MILLION HALF EXPIRES IN 23, A HALF EXPIRES IN 24.
YOU'RE SPENDING IT ON OTHER THINGS.
SO IF THE SUMMER SCHOOL THAT IT IS SPECIFICALLY FOR BEYOND THE SCHOOL YEAR OPPORTUNITIES.
SO WHEN WE DO BALANCE CALENDAR, WE'RE EXTENDING THE SCHOOL YEAR, RIGHT.
SO IF THE SCHOOL BOARD WERE TO DECIDE AGAINST CALENDAR, WHERE'S THAT MONEY COMING FROM IT'S GRANT FUNDED AND IT'S ALLOCATED TWO YEARS.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, IT'S THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SO IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION, THE SCHOOL BOARD GOES, THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR THE TRANSITION FROM, UM, GRANT FUNDED TO OPERATIONAL DOLLARS, WHICH WE EXPECT WOULD BE LESS THAN THE INITIAL STARTUP COSTS, BUT THAT'S CONVERSATION.
THE SCHOOL BOARD IS THAT OKAY, MY SECOND QUESTION GOES BACK TO SALARIES.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A 5% ACROSS THE BOARD AND THEN ADDITIONAL ONE, ROUGHLY 1.4% OF 1.1% TO BRING IT TO THE SIX THAT IS IN SALARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR TEACHERS, FOR TEACHERS.
AND HOW WHERE'S THAT COMING FROM? HOW'D YOU DETERMINE THAT AMOUNT? THE 6.14 IS, UH, IS A STRUCTURAL CHANGE THAT WE MADE TO THE TEACHER SALARY SCALE.
WE STARTED AT $49,010 AS OUR ENTRY-LEVEL STARTING SALARY.
AND THEN WE CREATED AN INDEX FROM TOP TO BOTTOM OF 0.8, 5%.
SO EACH STEP IS 0.8, 5% HIGHER AS YOU GET DOWN THE SCALE.
AND WHAT WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT CURRENT SALARIES, NEW SCALE, AND THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THOSE TWO IS 6.14% AFTER WE REVISED THE SCALE.
BUT THAT 6.14 IS NOT IN ADDITION TO THE FIVE.
NO, MA'AM, THAT'S NO MA'AM ONE POINT OR WHATEVER FOR WHATEVER IT IS.
AND THAT'S BASED ON THIS, THE SALARY NUMBERS WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW THAT WE HAVE.
AND, AND HOW DID YOU CAPTURE THOSE NUMBERS AND, AND HOW LONG AGO, HOW OLD ARE THEY? THE REGIONAL COMPARISONS ARE DECEMBER, 2021 NUMBERS, THEIR CURRENT SALARY FIGURES FOR US AND FOR OUR COMPETING SCHOOL DIVISIONS.
THE SLIDE ON THE SCREEN ASSUMES WE TAKE OUR CURRENT SALARY SCALE, WE GIVE 6.14 HANOVER TAKES THEIR CURRENT SALARY SCALE AND GIVES A 5%, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO RATE AFTER THAT? RIGHT.
AND IF YOU ARE, THE SCHOOL IS THE SCHOOL DIVISION, AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR SOMEONE OTHER THAN, UH, AS PART OF THE SALARY, UM, STUDY THAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO DO.
I, I'M NOT AWARE OF US BEING A PART OF THAT.
WE TYPICALLY DO OUR OWN INTERNAL ANALYSIS.
THIS IS WHAT WE GOT FROM YOUR, YOUR ANALYSIS BASICALLY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH DONE, REALLY? OKAY.
I HAVE A FEW MORE SLIDES ABOUT CAPITAL.
I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT CAPITAL NEXT WEEK.
I CAN BREEZE THROUGH THOSE PRETTY QUICK, OR I CAN PULL THAT TO NEXT WEEK, WHATEVER YOUR PLEASURE IN IT.
UH, JUST, JUST REALLY, REALLY QUICK AND MUCH OF THIS BOARD MEMBERS YOU HAVE SEEN BEFORE.
SO IT'S JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC WHO MAY NOT HAVE ATTENDED OUR PAST WORK SESSIONS.
UM, SO LET ME GET THERE A FEW MORE CLICKS.
SO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVED THE 30 YEAR CIP, IT'S A LONG RANGE PLANNING DOCUMENT.
YOU KNOW, THE FINANCIAL STRUCTURE OF THAT WHERE
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ONE YEAR IS APPROPRIATED AND THE OTHERS ARE BALANCED AND THE OTHERS ARE FOR, ARE FOR PLANNING, BUT WE DID APPROVE A 30 YEAR CIP.HERE'S THE FIRST 10 YEAR SNAPSHOT.
UH, REALLY OUR PRIMARY PROJECT FOR NEXT YEAR IS REPLACING THIS COOLING TOWER.
AND SO THAT IS EMBEDDED IN THE SCHOOL.
BOARD'S REQUEST TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THERE ARE MATCHING GRANT FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO MEET THIS NEED.
AND AS YOU SEE ON THIS PICTURE, THIS IS ORIGINAL TO THE SCHOOL AND IS REALLY THE HEARTBEAT OF THE SCHOOL WHEN IT COMES TO THE MECHANICAL SYSTEMS AND REALLY HAVE TO GET THIS REPLACED AND GOT OLYMPUS THROUGH THE SPRING SUMMER AND FALL SLATED FOR, UH, UH, REVISION AND WINTER RFP HIT THE MARKET JUST YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE, UH, THERE TODAY, SO THAT WE CAN START TO GET BIDS ON THIS KIND OF THING, BUT THIS IS A PRIORITY PROJECT FOR US.
AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE INCREASES JUST IN HPAC NEEDS AT OUR FACILITIES, PRIMARILY AT THE HIGH SCHOOL FACILITY AND SOME SIGNIFICANT INCREASES OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS THAT WE ULTIMATELY NEED TO PLAN FOR.
UH, SO SOME BIG DOLLARS THERE.
WE TALKED AT THE LAST WORK SESSION ABOUT OUR APPROACH TO VEHICLE REPLACEMENT AND HOW ULTIMATELY WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OF ACCOUNTING FOR THESE VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS IN THE FUTURE.
THIS IS JUST A COPY AND PASTE OF THAT SLIDE, BUT THAT'S EMBEDDED IN THEIR SCHOOL.
BOARD'S REQUEST TO YOU AS WELL.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY BRINGING THIS TO A CLOSE, UH, I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND I'M AVAILABLE AT ANY TIME TO ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU, OUR CITIZENS MAY HAVE.
UH, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A PROCESS THAT MAY HAVE SOME UPS AND DOWNS AND SPIRALS ALONG THE WAY, UH, ULTIMATELY, UH, BEFORE YOU MAKE A FINAL VOTE.
AND SO I HAVE GREAT RESPECT FOR WHAT YOU DO RECOGNIZING YOU HAVE MANY DIFFERENT NEEDS IN THIS COMMUNITY FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY ASPECT OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING OUR SCHOOLS.
AND SO, UM, UM, UH, I VALUE THAT GREATLY AND RESPECT THAT AND ULTIMATELY WANT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AS YOU GO THROUGH MAKING THOSE DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
I REMAIN PROUD OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A SCHOOL DIVISION.
I HOPE THAT WE MAKE YOU PROUD AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO DO GREAT WORK AND, UH, WE'RE POISED AND READY TO CONTINUE OUR SUCCESS WELL INTO THE FUTURE.
AND YOUR STAFF AND FOR YOUR BOARD MEMBERS WHO CAME TO SUPPORT OUR BOARD, LET'S TAKE, UM, LET'S TAKE 10.
UH, WE'LL BE BACK WITH BIG HAND ON THE NINTH FOR OUR FINAL TWO PRESENTATIONS OF THE AFTERNOON.
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RIGHT, FOLKS.[2. 5304: Agency Presentations for FY2023 County Budget: Revenues, Debt and]
WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR AGENDA ON THE AGENCY PRESENTATIONS FOR REVENUES, DEBT, AND POLICIES, I THINK EXCITING, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MARIANA TWIST SALE DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES, GOING TO TALK ABOUT REVENUE AND DEBT POLITICS.THIS IS A PROPOSED GENERAL REVENUE FOR FY 23 GENERAL FUND REVENUE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, AS IS TYPICAL, UH, MOST OF IT COMES FROM PROFIT GENERAL PROPERTY TAXES.
UH, THE NEXT BIGGEST PIE IS, UH, OTHER LOCAL TAXES.
AND THEN, SORRY, I LOST MY PAGE.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE CHARGES FOR SERVICES.
GENERAL PROPERTY INCLUDES REAL ESTATE, PERSONAL PROPERTY, DELINQUENT TAXES, PENALTIES, AND INTEREST.
UH, THAT'S YOUR BIGGEST PORTION, YOUR OTHER LOCAL TAXES, WHICH IS THE RED TRIANGLE 4.7 MILLION OF THAT IS SALES TAX.
SO THE MAJORITY OF THAT COMES FROM OUR SALES TAX CHARGES FOR SERVICES.
THAT'S OUR AMBULANCE RIDES, PERMITS AND FEES.
AND FYI 23, WE HAVE 1.7, 5 MILLION BUDGET FOR BUILDING PERMITS AND STATE AID IS YOUR COMP BOARD AND YOUR PPT RA YOUR PPE.
TRH YOUR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE.
HERE'S THE BREAKDOWN OF ALL REAL PROPERTY TAXES.
WE HAVE COURSE REAL ESTATE TAX BEING THE LARGEST PORTION AND THEN PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
THE NEXT, THE NEXT ONE, ALL OTHER IS DELINQUENT TAXES, PENALTIES, AND INTERESTS.
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AND YOU CAN FOLLOW ON PAGE 44 IN YOUR BUDGET BOOK.IF YOU HAVE IT, IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF EACH LINE ITEM THAT GOES INTO ALL OF THESE, DIDN'T THINK YOU'D PROBABLY WANT TO SIT HERE AND READ THAT.
UM, SO THIS IS OUR REAL ESTATE TAX REVENUES.
IF YOU SEE A FY 22, THAT WAS OUR ORIGINAL BUDGET OF THREE POINT 31.5 MILLION AND OUR FY 23 BUDGET IS 36.2.
THIS IS A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER VERSION OF YOUR PIE CHART.
UH, WE'RE GOING UP FROM 13.6 BUDGETED AND FYI 22 TO 15.3 BUDGETED.
AND PROVIDE A SALES TAX WHEN YOU HAVE WELL SALES TAX.
THAT'S WHERE MOST OF IT COMES FROM IS YOUR 4.7 MILLION.
UH, YOUR BUSINESS LICENSE TAXES ARE 1.3.
THERE WAS SOME TALK IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY ABOUT ELIMINATING THAT FORTUNATELY, THAT DID NOT GO THROUGH BECAUSE THAT'S A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF OUR REVENUE THAT WE DID RECEIVE.
UM, CONSUMER UTILITY TAXES AND CONSUMPTION TAXES SHOULD REALLY GO TOGETHER.
AND THAT'S THE THING THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR ELECTRIC BILL, YOUR PHONE BILL, YOUR GAS BILL, THE PORTION THAT WE RECEIVED THERE.
THIS IS OUR SALES TAX BUDGET IS 4.2 MILLION IS 4.7.
AT THE END OF THE PRESENTATION, I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT OUR PROJECTIONS WERE IN DECEMBER.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THAT ON OUR PROJECTION HAS GONE UP A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT WE ORIGINALLY BUDGETED AND FY 22, HERE'S OUR STATE AND FEDERAL MONEY THAT WE RECEIVE.
THE MAIN THING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT, OR I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT ON THIS.
AND I THINK IT'S VERY INTERESTING IS THE RED SECTION, AND THAT'S WHAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMP BOARD AND THE NON CATEGORICAL.
MOST OF THAT IS THE 2.8 MILLION THAT WE GET FROM THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF.
SO HERE'S THE COMP BOARD SECTION.
AND I THINK THIS IS KIND OF INTERESTING.
UM, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK, YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL EXPENSES FOR EACH DEPARTMENT FOR 22 AND 23.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE AMOUNT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMP BOARD FOR THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
NOW I WILL MENTION THE REGISTRAR IS NOT A COMP BOARD FUNDED POSITION.
THE POSITIONS FOR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS ARE THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY, SHERIFF COMMISSIONER, REVENUE, TREASURER, AND CLERK OF THE COURT.
BUT SINCE WE DO RECEIVE SOME FUNDING FOR REGISTRAR, WE ALWAYS JUST KIND OF STICK THEM IN HERE.
UM, BUT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR ACTUAL EXPENSE VERSUS YOUR ACTUAL FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVED IN FY 21, THE BOTTOM LINE THERE, WE RECEIVED 27% OF OUR FUNDING FOR THAT FOR THE COMP BOARD.
IF YOU LOOK AT 22, WE RECEIVED 23% OF THE FUNDING FROM THE COMP BOARD.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT 23, WE RECEIVED 21% OF THAT FUNDING FROM THE COMP BOARD.
SO WHY IS THAT GOING DOWN? WELL, THE REASON THAT GOES DOWN IS BECAUSE THE COMP BOARD HAS, AND THE COMFORT HAS NOT REVISITED THIS PARTICULAR PARTICULAR FORMULAS IN QUITE A FEW YEARS LIKE 10.
UM, SO THEY HAVE A FORMULA FOR HOW MANY PEOPLE THEY THINK EACH SHERIFF'S OFFICE NEEDS TO HAVE BASED ON A POPULATION TREASURER'S OFFICE, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THEN THEY ALSO DON'T FULLY FUND THE POSITION.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE PAY MORE THAN WHAT THEIR RECOMMENDED SALARY IS BECAUSE WE COULD NOT RETAIN PEOPLE OR WHAT THE RECOMMENDED SALARY IS FOR THESE POSITIONS.
AS THESE DEPARTMENTS GROW POSITIONS, WE ADD ARE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE COMP BOARD POSITIONS.
SO IT'S, THAT'S, WHAT'S MAKING US LOOK LIKE THAT WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS AS FAR AS THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE RECEIVING FROM THEM.
SO I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS AN INTERESTING THING.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T ALWAYS BREAK THAT DOWN AND LOOK AT IT THAT CAREFULLY, BUT IT'S, IT'S GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
SO, AND THERE'S HER PROPOSED OTHER SOURCES.
AND THE BULK OF THAT $2 MILLION IS 1.75, AND BUILDING PERMIT FEES THIS YEAR FOR 23 CHARGES FOR SERVICES, AGAIN, 850,000.
THAT IS OUR EMS COST RECOVERY.
SO THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF THAT.
AND THEN THE OTHER MISCELLANEOUS CHARGES AND FEES.
SO THIS IS WHY I WAS TALKING TO YOU ABOUT TALKING ABOUT WITH THE ORIGINAL BUDGET, THE PROJECTED BUDGET AND THE PROPOSED BUDGET BACK IN DECEMBER OR BEGINNING OF JANUARY, WE DID THE PROJECTIONS FOR 22.
OF COURSE THE PROJECTIONS WILL BE A WHOLE LOT MORE ACCURATE AT THE END OF MARCH BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU JUST, AS IT GETS CLOSER, YOU GET BETTER HONED IN, BUT YOU CAN SEE OUR REAL ESTATE TAXES WERE 31.5 BUDGETED.
WE'RE PROJECTING 33 MILLION AND WE'RE BUDGETING 36 FOR 23.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S STICKS OUT A LITTLE BIT HERE IS THE DELINQUENT REAL ESTATE AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
THAT SEEMS TO BE A BIT OF AN ANOMALY.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD THINK AS PEOPLE PAY THEIR REAL ESTATE, PERSONAL PROPERTY, DELINQUENT TAXES, THE DELINQUENT TAXES WOULD GO DOWN.
SO YOU DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE BUDGETING LARGE AMOUNTS FORWARD OR UNUSUALLY LARGE AMOUNTS FORWARD BECAUSE YOU'D LIKE TO THINK AS THEY'RE PAYING THEIR LIQUID TAXES, YOUR BALANCES ARE GOING
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DOWN.BUT THIS YEAR, UM, IN 22, WE ARE PROJECTING A PRETTY GOOD, A PRETTY GOOD CHUNK OF MONEY THEY'RE COMING IN.
UM, SO THOSE ARE THE REVENUE PROJECTIONS VERSUS THE BUDGET.
AND ACTUALLY THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UM, I WROTE DOWN THE PAGE NUMBERS OF THE SLIDE.
SO IF YOU WOULD GO BACK TO SLIDE SIX.
SO TELL ME AGAIN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE RED, SURE.
WHAT WAS TWO POINT LITTLE OVER 2.8 MILLION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE STATE AS PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, THAT MONEY COMES DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY.
AND THAT'S APPLIED TO PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX FOR THE CITIZENS.
SO THAT CHUNK IS THE STATE AND THEN THE REST IS WHAT THE CITIZENS PAY.
DID YOU, DID YOU WANT TO SAY I WAS GOING TO, UH, ELABORATE ON THAT FURTHER ON THAT LAST PAGE, THE, UH, THE 2.9 YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S CONSTANT.
THE STATE HAS FIXED THE FIXED DOLLAR AMOUNT AND HE RESPECTED FOR THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND THAT KIND OF THING.
IT'S, IT'S A FIXED NUMBER, RIGHT.
ON PAGE NINE, THE NON CATEGORICAL STATE AID TO ME WITH THAT IS THE THREE MAIN SIX.
OH, THAT'S, UM, THAT'S MAINLY PPT RA WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
THAT'S MAINLY THE $2.8 MILLION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM, FROM THE, AND THE OTHER, ALMOST 1,000,800 THOUSAND.
IT'S BROKEN DOWN A WHOLE BUNCH OF, IF YOU GO TO PAGE, UM, OR YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR BOOK.
UM, BUT IF YOU TELL ME WHAT PAGES I WILL LOOK AT IT.
IT'S PAGE 47 AND THERE ARE, THERE ARE VARIOUS GRANTS THAT WE RECEIVE STATE PUBLIC ASSISTANCE, OTHER STATE FUNDS.
IT'S, IT'S GOT YOU ALONG A LITTLE THINGS BROKEN THAT GOT YOU ALL IN KIND OF LUMPED TOGETHER AND PAGE 10.
SO NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT ONE NOW.
DID YOU, DID YOU DON'T HAVE THE TOTALS? IS THAT IN OUR BOOK? NO, BUT I CAN, I CAN CERTAINLY TEST.
I JUST WANT YOU TO SEE HOW YEAR BY YEAR, THE YEAR.
NO PROBLEM, MR. JEFF, I COULD, WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT PAGE TO FOLLOW ON, UM, COULD YOU VERY BRIEFLY GO DOWN THESE AND TALK ABOUT THE UNDERLYING ASSUMPTIONS? I MEAN, WE SEE A JUMP YEAR OVER YEAR.
WHAT'S THE ASSUMPTION LIKE ON THE REAL ESTATE SIDE, WHAT'S THE ASSUMED INCREASE IN REAL ESTATE OR CHANGE IN REAL ESTATE VALUES, THAT KIND OF STUFF.
JUST GIVE US SOME COLOR ON HOW YOU GOT TO THOSE NUMBERS.
UM, THE REAL ESTATE IS, IS OBVIOUSLY THE CHANGE IN REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENTS AND REAL ESTATE VALUES.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT 11.1 INCREASE 11.1% INCREASE IN REAL ESTATE.
UM, SO THIS IS HOW WE CALCULATE THAT NUMBER.
BUT IF I, 23 ONLY INCLUDES SIX MONTHS OF THAT, RIGHT.
THERE'S ANOTHER SIX MONTHS BEYOND CONNECTICUT.
NO, FYI 22 INCLUDES SIX MONTHS OF THAT AND THE OTHER SIX MONTHS AND THEN THE WHOLE YEAR FOR .
SO IN OTHER WORDS, FROM JANUARY UNTIL JUNE IN 22 TAKES IN THE NEW VALUES AND THEN JULY 1ST TO JUNE 30TH FOR 23 WOULD BE THE WHOLE YEAR.
UM, CAN I GET DOWN INTO THE WEEDS TOO MUCH? BUT THE ASSESSMENTS ARE DONE ON A CALENDAR YEAR BASIS, JANUARY TO JANUARY.
SO IF THEY, YEAH, SO THEY COULD CHANGE AGAIN, THE FOLLOWING JANUARY, THEY COULD POSSIBLY GO UP, RIGHT? YES, YES.
SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THAT.
AND THE ODDS ARE, THEY WILL INCREASE, BUT YEAH.
MY, MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S THE UNDERLYING ASSUMPTION IN THAT, BEYOND THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT THAT OTHER SIX MONTHS, WHAT KIND OF GROWTH THAT WE ASSUMING? 4%.
DO THE SAME FOR EACH OF THESE.
IF YOU'RE SENDING COLOR TO PROVIDE ANY EACH CERTAINLY.
WELL, THE TCFD IS OBVIOUSLY A PERCENTAGE OF THE REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENTS FOR THAT AREA.
SO THAT'S THE SAME THING, UH, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX.
UH, WE HAVE VERY CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTIONS.
I MEAN, WE KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING TO PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX THIS YEAR, YOU GOT 20% JUST OUT OF THE WORLD.
AND YOU KNOW, NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NEXT YEAR MAY CONTINUE THAT WAY.
THE WAY SUPPLY CHAIN IS GOING THERE'S,
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THERE'S NO REAL, NOBODY KNOWS WHEN THAT'S GOING TO END.SO, BUT, BUT BEING CONSERVATIVE, WE'RE FIGURING ABOUT 4% BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO LOSE YOUR HEAD AND SAY 10%.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYTHING GOES DOWN OR STAYS THE SAME OR WHATEVER.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO THERE.
UM, AGAIN, I DISCUSSED THE DELINQUENT TAXES.
YOU WOULD THINK AS PEOPLE PAY THEIR LIQUID SEIZE, THAT DELINQUENCIES WOULD GO DOWN.
UM, WE DO TYPICALLY GO UP EACH YEAR BECAUSE IT HAS GONE UP EACH YEAR.
YOU'D LIKE TO THINK AT SOME POINT THAT WOULD CHANGE, BUT YOU JUST GO WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY, BUT NOT GO CRAZY.
1.6 YEARS THIS YEAR, I THINK IS, IS UNUSUALLY HIGH.
AND SO I THINK GOING FROM 1.2 TO 1.4 IS REASONABLE, BUT THAT'S HOW WE GOT THAT STATE REVENUES.
WHAT STATE REVENUE IS IT TYPICALLY STAYS FAIRLY FLAT, OR AT LEAST IT DID FOR 22 AND 23, YOU KNOW, 21 YOU HAD COVID, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THERE.
SALES TAXES INCREASING, UM, SALES TAX IS INCREASING BECAUSE EVERYTHING GOT MORE EXPENSIVE.
SO AS INFLATION GOES UP, THINGS COST MORE.
UH, SO AGAIN, UH, THAT IS NOT A VERY, UM, THAT'S NOT A BIG JUMP, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THAT BECAUSE WE'RE AT 4.2, WE'RE THINKING 4.6, BUT 4.2 TO 4.7.
IT'S A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE.
UM, BUSINESS LICENSES, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME THING.
AND THE SAME WITH BUILDING PERMITS, THINGS CONTINUE TO INCREASE.
ARE THEY GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE AT THIS DRAMATIC OF A PACE? YOU DON'T WANT TO ASSUME SO AND PUT HUGE INCREASES IN THERE, BUT YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING.
THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE SOME OVER THE NEXT, OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
I, UM, PART OF THE DISCIPLINE GOING THROUGH THIS IS TO TRY TO DETERMINE WHETHER SOME OF TODAY'S PRICES ARE ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED.
WE'LL ALL STAY AT A HUNDRED, $5.
A BARREL IS THAT ARTIFICIALLY HIGH, UM, GALLON OF MILK, BACON, JUST GO DOWN A LIST.
SOME OF THEM ARE, MAYBE YOU ORDERED A USED CAR USED CAR YEAR OR TWO OLD.
MAYBE IT'S GONE FOR FULL STICKER NET.
IS THAT GOING TO CONTINUE? SO ALL THAT IS, IS THE DURABILITY AND THE SUSTAINABILITY, OR ARE THESE THINGS ARTIFICIALLY INFLATED.
SO EVEN A MODEST 4% GROWTH, IF THERE IS SOME DEFLATION, THOSE PRICES COULD BE ANYWAY, JUST THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THAT, TO SAY, WHICH OF THESE IS VULNERABLE BECAUSE IT'S ARTIFICIAL IN WHICH OF THESE THINGS ARE MORE DURABLE AND COULD BE LOGICALLY EXPECTED TO CONTINUE.
UM, HOUSING STARTS AND PERMITS AND LICENSES.
FOR INSTANCE, WE KNOW THAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE IS GOING TO RAISE INTEREST RATES.
WE KNOW PRICES ARE ALREADY A VERY, VERY HIGH.
AND IF YOU ADD HIGHER INTEREST MORTGAGES THAT THE AFFORDABILITY PLUMMETS, EVEN A 4% GROWTH OFF OF THIS HIGH LEVEL.
SO YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.
AND I'D LIKE TO JUST CONTINUE TO BE CONSERVATIVE THE WAY WE APPROACH THINGS, BUT BE DELIBERATE IN SAYING, YEAH, WE THINK THESE THINGS ARE, ARE HIGH, BUT THEY'RE SUSTAINABLY HIGH OR THEY'RE NOT SUSTAINABLY HIGH AND THERE'LL BE SOME, AND THAT'S TRUE.
AND WITH THE WORLD AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, THERE'S NO TELLING WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
UM, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE TALKED TO, I TALKED TO THE ASSESSOR OR THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, YOU KNOW, TO GET THEIR OPINION BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THEY DO FOR A LIVING.
AND THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THINGS WORK.
UM, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT IT'S REALLY A BEST GUESS AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT THE WORLD'S GOING TO DO.
WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY OVER THE YEARS GROWN BETWEEN THREE, 4%, UM, WHEN THINGS WERE NORMAL.
SO YOU BUDGET, LIKE THINGS ARE NORMAL UNTIL THINGS ARE NORMAL, YOU KNOW? UM, BUT WHEN THEY'RE HIGH, YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO BUDGET.
IF THINGS START TO TURN AND THEN YOU GO BACK AND YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE DOING WELL, THEN THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND THE DEGREE OF CONSERVATISM, WHICH IS THERE'S BEEN EXTRAORDINARY CHANGES, BUT WE'RE GOING TO STICK TO NORMAL CHANGES AND UNDERSTAND THERE'S A RANGE OF OUT POTENTIAL OUTCOMES, NOT ONE OUTCOMES, A RANGE.
AND WE TEND TO PROJECT ON THE CONSERVATIVE END OF THAT RANGE OF POTENTIAL OUTCOMES.
AND WE'LL ADJUST FIRE AS WE GO FORWARD.
WE'LL, WE'LL ADJUST THAT I WILL.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING FOR NEXT YEAR FOR, FOR REAL ESTATE BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT IT IS.
AND AGAIN, LIKE YOU SAID, IN JANUARY, SOMETHING COULD CHANGE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU JUST, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO CRAZY AND SAY, OH, EVERYTHING'S GOING UP 20%.
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE INSANE BECAUSE THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS THAT, AND YEAH, AND I THINK YOU'RE A GENTLEMEN ON THE RIGHT TRACK AND ONE DOES TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND MINDFUL AND DELIBERATE.
AND I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH THE GROUP WHERE, AND UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BAKED INTO THESE NUMBERS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS.
I WANT TO KNOW, UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEHIND THEM.
AND LOOK, MY CRYSTAL BALL SAYS FIVE YEARS, EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
SO IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT CLEAR, BUT WE'LL TAKE OUR BEST GAS.
WE'LL BE CONSERVATIVE, WE'LL STAY THE CONSERVATIVE, THE RANGE.
AND THEN WE'LL ADJUST AS THINGS GO.
AND IT'S NICE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEHIND THE NUMBERS.
I JUST, I THOUGHT MR. PETERSON, IT'S THE PRICE OF OIL IS GOING UP OR DOWN.
I LEAVE FOR, I ASKED HIM TO PAY PROFESSIONALS
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TO DO WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT ACCURACY, LIKE WEATHERMAN.THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT YOU WERE ASKING EARLY ON.
BUT I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TO YOUR POINT THAT THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES.
I MEAN, THE OBVIOUS ONE ON THAT IS I THINK, YOU KNOW, IS THE U S GONNA TURN UP ANY PRODUCTION.
SO, I MEAN, WHEN YOU TALK, WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO BUDGET BASED ON QUESTIONS LIKE THAT, YOU, YOU DO HAVE A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY.
SO I GET, UH, I APPRECIATE WHAT'S, WE'VE DONE WELL WITH WHAT'S OUR APPROACH IN THE PAST.
AND THERE'S NO REASON TO CHANGE COURSE, MR. QUESTION REGARDING THE, UM, THE COMP BOARD, HAVE WE EVER LOOKED AT THOSE PERCENTAGES ARE KIND OF SHOCKING TO SEE HOW LITTLE THEY ACTUALLY FUND THE POSITIONS THAT THEY SOMETIMES EVEN MAKE US HAVE? UM, HOW, HOW DO WE COMPARE TO OTHER LOCALITIES IT'S BASED ON YOUR POPULATION? SO IF YOU HAVE A LOCALITY WITH A SIMILAR POPULATION, THEY'RE GOING TO FUND THE LOCALITY A SIMILAR WAY.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY DON'T LOOK AT WHAT YOU PAY YOUR PEOPLE, RIGHT.
UM, SO IT'S MORE SIMILAR TO LOCALITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR TO US.
NOW, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU COULD HAVE TWO LOCALITIES THAT ARE SIMILAR IN POPULATION, BUT ONE COULD BE VERY, UM, RURAL AND THE OTHER ONE MAY NOT BE, AND YOU HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS FOR THE AMOUNT OF SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES NEEDS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND THAT KIND OF THING.
AND IF I MAY, IF I MAY ADD SOMETHING, MR. CHAIRMAN A, IF, IF WE HAD A POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE FUNDED DIFFERENTLY THAN THIS, THEN THE DEPUTIES.
SO THEY PROBABLY FUND THEY KIND OF THE MINIMUM FOR WHAT RUNNING THE JAIL OR RUNNING, UH, DOING, UM, TYPICAL DEPUTY WORK IN OTHER LOCALITIES, BUT FOR US, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT DEBT POLICIES.
ALSO, HERE'S OUR OUTSTANDING DEBT.
AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2022, WE HAVE LOAN AT 2.675 MILLION.
THE LEASE REVENUE BOND, WHICH WAS FOR NINE 11 AT FOUR OR FIVE 29 MILLION, AND THEN OUR NEW DEBT OF 50 MILLION.
SO OUR CHARTS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE LOOK VERY DIFFERENT IN 21 THAN THEY DO.
AND OUR 21 AND 22 THAN THEY DO ON 23, OBVIOUSLY, UM, THAT SERVICES AMOUNT OF MONEY REQUIRED TO MAKE PAYMENTS.
AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT THAT SERVICE, THAT'S ACTUALLY THE AMOUNT OF OUR PAYMENT.
WHEN I TALK ABOUT DEBT, THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT, THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WE OWE THE RATIO OF DEBT SERVICE EXPENDITURES TO GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES SHOULD NOT EXCEED 12%.
WE DON'T WANT OUR DEBT SERVICE TO BE ANY MORE THAN 10% OF WHAT WE OWE OR WHAT OUR EXPENDITURES ARE.
OUR NET DEBT, WHICH INCLUDES OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.
AND ALSO THE 9 1 1 CENTER AS A PERCENTAGE OF MARKET VALUE OF TAXABLE PROPERTY SHOULD NOT, NOT EXCEED 2.5%.
SO WE DON'T WANT THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF DEBT.
WE OWE TO BE MORE THAN 2.5% OF OUR TAXABLE PROPERTY.
SO HERE'S THE FIRST CHART, AND THIS IS OUR DEBT SERVICE, THE PAYMENTS TO GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.
AS YOU SEE IN 21 AND 22, WE WERE, WE WERE DOING GREAT.
WE WERE RIGHT DOWN THERE AND EVERYTHING WAS WONDERFUL.
UM, BUT 23 IN INCLUDES THE PAYMENT ON OUR NEW DEBT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE BORROWED MONEY.
WE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A PAYMENT.
UM, AND THEN THAT DOES INCREASE AS WE GO.
AS YOU SAW IN THE FIRST CHART, THE SCHOOL DEBT DROPS OFF IN 27 AND THE NINE ONE DEBT I BELIEVE WAS 32.
I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT I THINK THAT'S AT 32.
SO IT'S A GRADUAL DECLINE AS WE GO.
THE REASON 23 TO 24, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A FAIRLY LARGE JUMP.
AS WE DO HAVE A MILLION DOLLAR PRINCIPLE PAYMENT ON OUR EATON.
SO THAT'S GOING TO REDUCE THAT DEBT AND DEBT SERVICE QUITE A BIT.
HERE'S OUR NET NET TAXABLE ASSESS VALUE.
THIS IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT WE OWE VERSUS OUR TAX.
AS YOU SEE IN 21, IT WAS REALLY LOW 22 LOOK LIKE THAT TOO.
BUT WHEN WE BORROWED THE MONEY FOR THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS, WE BORROWED IT IN 22.
SO THAT 50 MILLION IS SITTING IN THAT GRAPH.
SO WE'RE WELL BELOW OUR TARGET.
NOW, THE ONLY THING THAT IS NOT FIGURED IN HERE IS THE REMAINDER OF OUR GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BORROW.
AND THAT'S JUST WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE AT WITH OUR PROJECTS, WHAT THE INTEREST RATES ARE, WHAT THE ECONOMY LOOKS LIKE BEFORE WE START TO DO THAT.
SO THAT IS NOT CALCULATED IN THIS DEBT CHART, BUT EVEN WITH THAT IN HERE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE BELOW BOTH OF YOUR RATIOS.
ASSUMING WE DON'T BORROW WITH SOME RIDICULOUS INTEREST RATE, WHICH WE WON'T.
SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I HAVE FOR DEBT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JUST NOT A QUESTION, JUST VERIFICATION OR SHARING INFORMATION.
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MENTIONED THAT WE'VE DID THE $50 MILLION WORTH OF DEBT WHEN YOU GOT, THAT'S ALMOST A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF OF WHAT WE COULD HAVE ISSUED BECAUSE WE'RE TAKING IT TO GO SLOW AND DO A FEW PROJECTS AT A TIME.JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE DISCLOSED THAT FULL 96 MILLION, THE FULL ALMOST A HUNDRED MILLION TO THE RATING AGENCIES BEFORE THEY GAVE US OUR AAA RATING.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE'VE ONLY DONE HALF, IF WE DO THE OTHER HALF, IT'S STILL, AS LONG AS WE DO IT PROPERLY AND WITH OUR POLICIES AND THE GUIDANCE AND WHATNOT, IT WOULDN'T DISRUPT, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR PATH.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
NOW WE HAVE MR. LONGSHORE FOR OUR UTILITIES AND TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICTS.
[Policies, Utilities and Tuckahoe Creek Service District]
I GET EXCITED.ALL RIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I'M MATT LONGSHORE, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC UTILITIES, AND I'M HAPPY TO PRESENT TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON.
OUR OUR PROPOSED RATE CHANGES AND THE BUDGET FOR THE TACOMA CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT.
FIRST OFF, THE PRIMARY FUNCTIONS OF OUR DEPARTMENT ARE TO PROVIDE HIGH QUALITY WATER AND SEWER SERVICE TO OUR OVER 2100 CUSTOMERS.
UH, THE WAY WE DO THAT IS WE OPERATE AND MAINTAIN ALL OF OUR PUBLIC UTILITY ASSETS, INCLUDING 162 MILES OF PIPELINE, NINE SEWER PUMP STATIONS, TWO WATER BOOSTER STATIONS, AND THREE WATER TANKS.
AND AS ALWAYS, WE WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT FUNCTIONS.
SO OUR GOALS ARE TO ALWAYS MEET, UH, OUR STATE AND FEDERAL COMPLIANCE REGULATIONS.
UH, WE WANT TO ADDRESS ALL EMERGENCIES IN AN EXPEDITIOUS AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER AND PROVIDE EXCEPTIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE TO ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS AND ALL STAKEHOLDERS OF OUR PUBLIC UTILITY SYSTEMS. SO BEFORE AGAIN, TO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF OUR MULTIPLE UTILITY BUDGETS, I WANTED TO GO OVER OUR REVENUE STREAMS AND KIND OF SHOW WHAT REVENUES GO TOWARDS WHAT BUDGET.
SO WE CREATED THIS FLOW CHART A WHILE BACK AS MORE OF AN EDUCATIONAL TOOL FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, TO MORE OR LESS CLARIFY, UH, WHERE OUR CASH FLOWS ARE GOING.
UH, SO, SO TO START OUT, WE HAVE OUR USER RATES.
THOSE ARE THE FOUR, THE WATER AND SEWER SERVICES.
THOSE ARE PAID BY ALL OF OUR CUSTOMERS ON A BIMONTHLY BASIS.
UH, THOSE GO DIRECTLY TO OUR OPERATING FUND.
THAT INCLUDES OUR O AND M COSTS AS WELL AS TREATMENT CALLS FROM OUR PROVIDERS, EMPLOYEE SALARIES, ET CETERA, BECAUSE OUR EXPENSES IN THE OPERATING PHONE OR RECURRING EXPENSES, WE WANT TO PAY FOR THOSE WITH RECURRING REVENUE.
SO THAT'S HOW, WHY THAT SET UP THAT WAY.
UH, NEXT WE HAVE CONNECTION FEES.
THOSE ARE ONE-TIME FEES PAID BY ALL SYSTEM USERS.
AT THE TIME THEY CONNECT TO OUR SYSTEM, UH, THOSE FEES GO DIRECTLY TOWARDS OUR CIP FUND BECAUSE ALL THE PROJECTS IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN OR ONE-TIME PROJECTS, WE FUND THOSE WITH ONE-TIME FEES.
THAT'S WHY THAT SET UP THAT WAY.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR, UH, TCSD DEBT SERVICE, UH, THE REVENUE SOURCES FOR THE TACO CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT OR THE AVALARA TAX.
WE ALSO HAVE A 55% REVENUE SHARING COMPONENT OF THAT.
AND I'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO TO HOP INTO THE FIRST UTILITY BUDGET OF THE DAY, UH, IS OUR OPERATING BUDGET.
OUR PROPOSED OPERATING BUDGET FOR FY 23 IS RIGHT AT $6.6 MILLION.
THAT'S JUST OVER A 7% INCREASE FROM F Y 22.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE STAFFING PLAN ON THE BOTTOM, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR, UH, TWO ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME POSITIONS IN , BUT IF YOU DRILL INTO THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET, IF YOU DRILL INTO THE LOT ITEMS, YOU'LL SEE A MAJORITY OF THE INCREASE IN MAJORITY OF THAT 7% INCREASE, UH, IS, IS, UH, REALLY BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL STAFF WE'RE ASKING FOR.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE SOME INCREASES IN THERE FOR WATER AND SEWER PURCHASES FROM OUR PROVIDERS, AS WELL AS AN INCREASE IN CHEMICAL PURCHASES.
UM, AND WE HAVE A SMALL INCREASE FOR AT LEAST FUNDING, UH, FOR AN ADDITIONAL CENTERVILLE OFFICE, WHICH WAS PART OF YOUR CONSENT AGENDA TODAY.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE REALLY WHERE THE INCREASE HAS COME FROM IN OUR BUDGETS.
UM, ONE MORE ITEM, UH, STEMMING FROM OUR OPERATING
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FUND IS OUR, OUR NORFUND, UH, I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE JUST OVER $2 MILLION SINCE F Y 19 AND OUR RNR FUND.SO RNR AND OUR INDUSTRY STANDS FOR REHABILITATION AND REPLACEMENT.
UH, AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, I COULD SPEAK ALL DAY ON THE IMPORTANCE OF BUDGETING, SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTIONS TO AN RNR FUND AND HOW THAT SETS UP THE COUNTY FOR SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE, AND ENABLES US TO, UH, TAKE ON LARGE INFRASTRUCTURE REPLACEMENT PROJECTS.
SO, UH, THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY TODAY ON THAT FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, BUT I WILL SAY, UM, BEING ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE OVER $2 MILLION, UH, IN, IN THREE FISCAL YEARS FOR A SMALL UTILITY IN A SMALLER COUNTY IS SIMPLY REMARKABLE.
SO THANK YOU, PETERSON, IF I COULD JUST FOR A MINUTE, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THE BOTTOM LINE RNR, IT DOESN'T STAND FOR REST AND RELAXATION.
UM, THE, THIS EVENING, THIS BOARD IS GOING TO BE ASKED TO CONSIDER ITEMS THAT INCLUDE THOSE INITIALS AREN'T ARE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE STREAM PAGE.
TELL US WHERE THE RNR FUNDS AND WHERE THEY RESIDE.
THE RNR FUNDS COME FROM OUR OPERATING FUND.
UH, SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY ON THIS PAGE, BUT THEY COME FROM OUR USER RATES.
SO IN EVERY, UH, ANNUAL BUDGET, UH, WE TRY TO MAKE A POINT OF, UH, BUDGETING, MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE RNR FUND BECAUSE BECAUSE RNR PROJECTS ARE RECURRING PROJECTS, YOU ALWAYS NEED TO DO OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF YOUR SYSTEM.
YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE OUR REHAB PARTS OF YOUR SYSTEM AS IT AGES, WE FUND THOSE WITH USER RATES.
SO IT'S REALLY THE TOP LINE WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE FOR THE RNR FUNDS, THE SOURCE AND THE, AND THE FUND ALL THE WAY IN THE UPPER, RIGHT.
THE OPERATING FUND IS WHERE THOSE ARE IN OUR FUNDS RESIDE.
AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS BOARD WILL BE ASKED TO CONSIDER SOMETHING THIS EVENING THAT TALKS ABOUT RNR FUNDS.
I JUST WANTED TO DRAW THEIR ATTENTION TO THE CLARIFICATION WHILE YOU'RE UP THERE.
SO FOR THE NEW POSITION REQUESTS, UM, JUST TO IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE POSITIONS ARE, THE FIRST POSITION WILL BE AN OPERATIONS MANAGER POSITION.
UH, THAT POSITION WILL OVERSEE OUR DEPARTMENTS OPERATIONS DIVISION.
SO IN ADDITION TO PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT, THAT POSITION WILL ALSO IMPLEMENT AND MAINTAIN OUR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM, OUR CCTV SEWER INSPECTION PROGRAM, OUR UNIT DIRECTIONAL FLUSHING PROGRAM AND OUR COMPUTERIZED MAINTENANCE MANAGEMENT SOFTWARE, UH, TYPICALLY REFERRED TO AS CMMS. UH, SO QUITE A HEFTY WORKLOAD AWAITING THAT POSITION.
UH, OUR SECOND POSITION IS AN ADDITIONAL UTILITY LOCATOR IN .
OUR STAFF ADDRESSED OVER 4,750 VA 8 1 1 TICKETS.
UH, YOU AVERAGE THAT OUT, UH, JUST DOING A LITTLE BIT OF MATH, THE AMOUNT OF WORK DAYS IN A YEAR THAT COMES OUT TO BE A LITTLE OVER 18 TICKETS PER DAY, WHICH IS A BIG WORK LOAD, UH, TO BEGIN WITH.
BUT THAT TICKET NUMBER IS ONLY INCREASING.
SO, UM, WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE EAST END OF THE COUNTY, AND NOW WE SEE IN IT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE COURTHOUSE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE OUR SERVICE AREAS, AS THAT CONTINUES TO INCREASE OUR TICKET NUMBERS ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO INCREASE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL LOCATOR POSITION.
SO NOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT EXPENSES A LITTLE BIT.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE REVENUE SIDE OF WHAT WE DO, UH, STARTING WITH RATES.
I, IN 2018, WE CONTRACTED WITH DRAPER ADEN TO COMPLETE A RATE STUDY.
UM, THIS STUDY, UH, THE REASON WE WANTED TO COMPLETE IT IS TO HELP GUIDE US AND TO HELP GUIDE THE BOARD ON WHAT THE RATE SHOULD BE AND TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ADEQUATE TO COVER OUR EXPENSES, TO COVER OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, AS WELL AS, UH, UH, BEING ABLE TO MAKE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE RNR FUNDS.
SO THE RESULTS OF THE 2018 STUDY, UH, CONCLUDED THAT WE NEEDED 5% INCREASES FOR WATER AND 6% INCREASES FOR SEWER RATES YEAR OVER YEAR FOR FIVE YEARS.
UH, WE S BEGAN TO IMPLEMENT THAT AND, AND FYI 18, AND AGAIN, , UH, BUT DUE TO, UH, INTENSE, UH, CUSTOMER BASED GROWTH, UH, WE DECIDED TO TAKE ANOTHER AT THE RATE STUDY.
UH, SO LAST YEAR WE TOOK ANOTHER DEEP DIVE INTO OUR RACE TO MAKE SURE, TO SEE IF THAT, IF THAT GROWTH IMPACTED WHAT THE RATES NEEDED TO BE.
UM, SO WE DID A RATE STUDY UPDATE IN 2021, UH, WITH THE MOST CURRENT DATA WE HAVE AVAILABLE, UH, THE RESULTS OF THAT IS WE WERE ABLE TO PAIR BACK.
SOME OF THOSE RATE INCREASES TO 3% FOR WATER, 4% FOR SEWER.
I WANT, THAT ALLOWS US TO DO IS FUND OUR OPERATING EXPENSES, PAY OUR EXISTING DEBTS.
I CONTINUE TO FUND THE RNR PROGRAM.
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WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT OUR CONNECTION FEES WITH THE UPDATED STUDY.AND, UH, WHAT WE SAW IS THAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME OUT OF THE STUDY IS WE NEEDED TO INCREASE OUR CONDUCTION FEES 5% EVERY OTHER YEAR.
SO THAT'S A STRATEGY FOR CONNECTION FEE INCREASES.
OUR FIRST INCREASE AT 5% WAS LAST YEAR.
SO WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING AN INCREASE IN CONNECTION FEES THIS YEAR.
WE ANTICIPATE A RECOMMENDED INCREASE IN CONNECTION FEES NEXT YEAR.
SO WHAT THAT ENDS UP, UH, DOING WHAT WE PROJECTED ENDED UP DOING OVER THE FOUR YEAR TERM AT THE RATE STUDY IS TO INCREASE REVENUES APPROXIMATELY $775,000 TO GO DIRECTLY TOWARDS CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR UTILITIES.
SO WHAT THE RECOMMENDED 3% WATER AND 4% WASTEWATER INCREASES.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER? SO WITH A STANDARD 4,000 GALLON BY MONTHLY USAGE, UH, YOU CRUNCH THE NUMBERS AND IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, $3 AND 88 CENTS ADDITIONAL, UM, ON THE BIMONTHLY WATER SEWER BILL TOOK A CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT, FYI 23 BUDGET LONG-TERM DEBT AND AVALARA OUTLOOK.
SO FOR THE TCSD, UH, DEBT FUND FOR FY 23, WE HAVE JUST OVER $6.1 MILLION IN THAT FUND.
THAT'S ACTUALLY A SLIGHT DECREASE FOR LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S JUST HOW THE BONDS, UH, WORKED OUT AND HOW THE DEBT SERVICE VARIES SLIGHTLY FROM YEAR TO YEAR OUR DEBT OBLIGATIONS AS A JUNE 30TH OF LAST YEAR.
WE, UH, WE HAVE OBLIGATIONS OF JUST OVER $96 MILLION TO VRA THUS FAR, THE REVENUE, BONDS AND INTEREST, AND, UH, $21.6 MILLION, UH, TO THE CITY OF RICHMOND THUS FAR, THE INITIAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT CAPACITY, THE COUNTY PURCHASED TO SERVE THE DISTRICT AS WELL AS SOME NUTRIENT UPGRADES TO THEIR TREATMENT PLAN.
THE SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR THE SERVICE DISTRICT IS TO AVALARA TAX THAT'S 32 CENTS PER A HUNDRED DOLLARS.
A PROPERTY VALUE, UH, IN THERE IS A 55% REVENUE SHARING FROM THE REAL ESTATE TAXES.
THAT'S FOR ALL THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IN THE DISTRICT, AS WELL AS THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IN THE KEN LOT SUBDIVISION PER THE COUNTY CODE.
THAT'S NOT AN ADDITIONAL 55% TAX TO THE TAXPAYER.
THE 55% IS HOW THE REAL ESTATE TIES IS ADMINISTRATIVELY DIVIDED ONCE THE TAXPAYER PAYS THEIR TAXES.
SO HERE'S A CHART SHOWING THEY HAVE VALOREM RATE VERSUS THE ASSESSED VALUES IN THE SERVICE DISTRICT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THE GREEN LINE ON THE BOTTOM IS OUR RATE.
THAT'S 32 CENTS PER A HUNDRED DOLLARS, A PROPERTY VALUE.
IT'S BEEN THAT WAY SINCE 2013 AND THE MAJOR REASON IT'S BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, AND WHAT'S ALLOWED IT TO REMAIN THE SAME IS THAT STEADY, UH, IN THAT STEADY AND CONSISTENT INCREASE IN THE ORANGE LINE, WHICH REPRESENTS THE ASSESSED VALUES OF THE DISTRICT.
SO YOU CAN SEE LAST YEAR, THERE WAS 1.4, $9 BILLION OF ASSESSED VALUE INTO TCSD.
THIS YEAR, THERE WAS 1.7, $2 BILLION THAT REPRESENTS A $230 MILLION INCREASE IN VALUE.
SO AGAIN, THAT CONSISTENT INCREASE IN VALUE.
ALL THE DEVELOPMENT COMING TO THE DISTRICTS, WHAT'S ALLOWED THAT RATE TO STAY THE SAME.
THIS CHART SHOWS, UH, PROJECT YOUR REVENUES VERSUS DEBT FUND COSTS, DEBT FUND EXPENSES, THE TCSD DEBT SERVICES REPRESENTED BY THE GRAY LINE, RUN IT THROUGH THE CHART, THE BLUE AND THE ORANGE BARS REPRESENT THE SOURCE REVENUES FROM THE AD VALOREM TAX AND 55% REVENUE SHARING.
UH, WHAT YOU CAN SEE IS THOSE, THOSE BLUE AND ORANGE BARS INCREASE OVER TIME AS THE DISTRICT GETS MORE AND MORE VALUE, AND WE'RE ABLE TO MORE AND MORE COMFORTABLY PAID AT THAT SERVICE.
SO I THINK ONE BIG OVERALL TAKEAWAY FROM THIS CHART IS THAT THROUGH THE HARD WORK OF A LOT OF FOLKS THROUGH THE YEARS, THE TCSD IS AN EXCELLENT FINANCIAL CONDITION.
AND WE PROJECTED THAT TO, UH, ONLY CONTINUE THROUGH THE YEARS.
HERE'S A GREAT, UH, CHART THAT SHOWS WHAT, UM, WHAT A TAX RATE WAS EXPECTED TO DO.
UM, AND THIS WAS CREATED BY DAVENPORT AND COMPANY BACK IN 2011, THE BLUE BARS ARE WHAT THE TAX RATE WAS EXPECTED TO DO WHEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT DIDN'T INITIALLY COME TO THE DISTRICT.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN 2022, THE TAX RATE WOULD,
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WAS EXPECTED TO BE AROUND 70 CENTS VERSUS THE 32 CENTS.WHAT ALLOWED THAT TO HAPPEN IS THE REFUNDING THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2012 AT A MUCH LOWER, UH, MUCH LOWER INTEREST RATE.
AND WHAT'S HAPPENED IN RECENT YEARS IS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REPAY THE GENERAL FUND LOAN THAT WAS STARTED IN FYI 17.
UM, THE FINAL PAYMENT WILL BE AN FY 22.
SO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE WILL MAKE THAT FINAL PAYMENT THIS YEAR AND THAT THAT DEBT WILL BE DONE, UH, FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.
SO, UM, THAT'S GREAT NEWS THERE.
UH, WE ALSO PLAN TO CONTINUE PAYMENTS ARRANGEMENT OF A MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR ON THAT SIMILAR TO RECENT YEARS TO, UM, WORK DOWN SOME OF THAT DEBT SERVICE.
SO HERE'S A NICE COLORFUL CHART.
UM, THAT SHOWS KIND OF THE, YOU KNOW, HOW SOME OF THE REFUNDINGS IN RECENT YEARS HAVE AFFECTED THE DISTRICT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BLUE LINE ON THE TOP, THAT'S THE INITIAL STRUCTURE OF THE DEBT SERVICE, UH, FOR THE INITIAL BONDS THAT WERE TAKEN OUT, UH, ALL THE COLORFUL LINES AND, AND COLORFUL AREAS IN THE BOTTOM, UH, REPRESENT SOME OF THE REFUNDINGS THAT'S HAPPENED THROUGH TWO YEARS OF 2012 REFUNDING THE 2020 REFUNDING.
UH, YOU SEE SOME OF THAT DEBT SERVICE FALLS OFF IN 2029, BUT THE MAIN TAKEAWAY IS ALL THE WHITE SPACE BELOW THE BLUE LINE AND ABOVE THE, THE FIELD IN AREAS THAT'S SAVINGS TO THE COUNTY, BECAUSE IT WAS BECAUSE OF THAT REFUNDING, UH, THE COUNTY'S ACTUALLY SAVING, UH, QUITE A BIT OF MONEY, UM, TYING THIS TOGETHER WITH THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE ASSESS VALUE IS COMING FAIRLY DRAMATICALLY HIGHER.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN LINE HERE, THE BLUE LINE, ACTUALLY THE BLUE LINE, ORIGINAL DENSE SERVICE THAT ALSO HAD A FAIRLY STEEP ASCENT.
AND IF YOU MATCH THE TWO INCREASE THE ASSESSED WITH THE INCREASED DEBT SERVICE, THAT'S WHAT ALLOWED THE 32 TO STAY FLAT, THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE INCREASE IN ASSESS, BUT WE HAD THE INCREASE IN DEBT SERVICE, THAT'S NOT A GOOD COMBINATION, BUT IF THEY CAN GROW TOGETHER, THEN THAT ALLOWS US TO STABILIZE THE 32.
SO OUR CURRENT PLAN IS TO MAINTAIN THE AVALARA TAX RATE AT 32 CENTS PER A HUNDRED DOLLARS OF ASSESSED VALUE.
AGAIN, THE FINAL PAYMENT TO THE GENERAL FUND LONG WILL BE MADE THIS YEAR OF A HUNDRED, $18,000.
UH, WE PLAN TO CONTINUE DEBT RETIREMENT, UH, TO THE CITY AT A MILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR.
UH, WE ALSO WANT TO RETAIN A TCSD FUND BALANCE.
UH, CURRENTLY THAT'S AT $8.7 MILLION.
UH, WE HAVE A $13.8 MILLION RESERVE IN THE BANK.
UH THAT'S FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS OF THAT SERVICE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A RESERVE IN THE GENERAL FUND, UM, FOR THE TCSD OF A MILLION DOLLARS, OUR NEXT STEPS, OR TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, THE USER RATES ON APRIL 5TH AND, UH, AS WELL AS HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON TAX RATES.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE TCSD TAX RATE ALSO ON APRIL 5TH, UM, AND, UH, RATES AND BUDGETS PLANNING FOR ADOPTION ON APRIL 19TH OF THIS YEAR.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE IT.
AND MS. HORLOCKER MS. TWISTA ALSO HERE, THERE ARE ANY FINANCE QUESTIONS.
MR. LONG SHORT, SO WAY BACK AT THE BEGINNING, TALKING ABOUT ADDING A COUPLE OF STAFF POSITIONS AND THAT IS PAID OUT OF THE OPERATING BUDGETS, CORRECT? SO EITHER I BLANKED OR WHATEVER, UH, SO I SEE THE INCREASE OF 7.7% AND EXPENSES.
WHAT IS YOUR OPERATING BUDGET MATCHES THAT? RIGHT? SO TO 7% INCREASE IS THE OVERALL, UM, BUDGET SPENT.
SO IF YOU DRILL DOWN INTO WHERE THE STAMP POSITIONS ARE AND THESE LINE ITEMS, THE HIGH LEVEL LINE ITEMS TO TWO NEW STAFF POSITIONS ARE IN THAT SERVICE LEVEL PLAN LINE ITEM, RIGHT? SO SHOW ME WHERE YOU'RE PAYING FOR THOSE, THAT SURFACE LEVEL PLAN LINE ITEM IS, AND THE OVERALL OPERATING BUDGET THAT WILL COME OUT OF THE, UM, 6.6 MILLION.
SO THAT'S THAT, THAT 150, $2,111, AS FAR AS THE TWO NEW POSITIONS THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE, IF YOU GO DOWN THAT COLUMN TO THE VERY BOTTOM THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT $439,000 400 AND TO INCREASE, YES, THESE ARE THE EXPENSES.
WHERE'S THE REVENUE THAT MATCHES THIS.
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FOR THIS? SO THIS WILL COME FROM THAT 6 MILLION.SO THIS WILL COME FROM WATER, SEWER RATE PAYERS.
BUT DO YOU, DO YOU, DID YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT? I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE, THIS IS A BALANCED BUDGET.
YOU DON'T HAVE A SLIDE SHOWING THE REVENUE.
I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE IN THIS PRESENTATION SHOWING ALL THE REVENUES.
OH, I KNOW IT'S IN OUR BUDGET BOOK.
SO WE, WE ACTUALLY, OUR EXPENSES ARE LESS THAN OUR ANTICIPATED REVENUES.
THE GAP THERE IS WHAT'S TRANSFERRED INTO THE RNR FUND.
SO ALL THAT'S BEEN VERIFIED IN CHINA.
I DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN THIS PRESENTATION.
I JUST WANTED TO SHOW, I DIDN'T MISS IT.
AND THIS IS WHY WE CAN JUMP IN.
SO THIS IS NOT, THIS IS OUTSIDE THE GENERAL FUND.
THIS IS CAPTURED JUST THE, UH, PLUSES AND MINUSES AND INCOMES AND EXPENSES OF THE, UM, UTILITY FUND.
UM, THANK YOU, MS. LONG SHOW, ALWAYS A GOOD PRESENTATION.
ALWAYS APPRECIATE GETTING ALL THIS INFORMATION FROM YOU.
IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS OUR UTILITIES SYSTEM IS DOING WELL.
AND THE RNR, YOU MENTIONED, THAT'S A POSITIVE THING.
BEFORE I GET INTO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, SO YOU AND YOUR OPERATIONS MANAGER SLIDE.
IF I THINK I READ IT, YOU DON'T NEED TO GO TO IT.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO KNOW IF I'M, IF I MISREAD IT, BUT IT SAID THAT THERE'S A, UH, THAT HE'S GOING TO, HE OR SHE IS GOING TO OVERSEE A UNI UNI DIRECTIONAL FLUSHING PROGRAM.
AND I WAS JUST IMAGINING A UTILITY THAT RUNS ANY OTHER DIFFERENT KINDS OF FLUSHING PROGRAM.
YOU, WHEN YOU FLUSH, I HOPE IT GOES IN ONE DIRECTION.
SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE TYPES OF FLUSHING THAT WE, SO THERE THERE'S FLUSHING FOR WATER QUALITY, WHERE YOU FLUSH OUT, UH, AT A SLOWER RATE, RIGHT? AND, AND CUSTOMERS DON'T TYPICALLY SEE PRESSURE DECREASES WHEN WE FLUSH LIKE THAT, IT'S REALLY JUST TO GET FRESH WATER DOWN THE LINE YOU ENTER IN A DIRECTIONAL FUND.
FLUSHING IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
IT'S WE USE THE LARGE NOZZLES ON THE HYDRANTS.
UH, WE PULL WATER AT AN EXTREMELY HIGH VELOCITY DOWN THE LINES, CUSTOMERS IN THE LOCAL AREAS FILL THE PRESSURE IMPACTS.
THE REASON WE DO THAT IS OVER TIME THERE'S SEDIMENT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER ELSE THAT ACCUMULATES IN THE BOTTOM OF THOSE PIPES, WE WANT TO GET EXTREMELY HIGH VELOCITIES GOING DOWN THE PIPELINES, UM, TO, TO GET THAT STUFF OUT OF THE PIPE.
SO I KNEW I WOULD LEARN SOMETHING.
I DIDN'T IMAGINE THAT UNIT DIRECTIONAL FLUSHING WAS WHAT I WAS IMAGINING TO IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN.
WE ALREADY HAVE THE PLAN WRITTEN.
NOW YOU HAVE TO TURN A LOT OF VALVES AND YOU DIRECT WATER, CERTAIN WAYS THROUGH YOUR WATER SYSTEM.
SO BACK TO MISS LASKA, LAST QUESTION.
WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POUCH, I FIGURED BALANCED BUDGET, BUT, AND I'M GLAD YOU KIND OF CLARIFIED THAT REVENUES EXCEED WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING ON THE EXPENSE SIDE, BUT TO THE TUNE OF HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH ARE YOU PLANNING ON PUTTING INTO THE RNR THIS FISCAL YEAR? CAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW, HOW PLEASED YOU ARE THAT 2,000,003, TWO POINT SOMETHING MILLION IN THREE YEARS.
SOME KIND OF CURIOUS, BECAUSE THIS TIES INTO REALLY WHAT I THINK WE SHOULDN'T BE CONCERNED ABOUT AT ALL, BUT I THINK RATES ARE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.
AND I CAN FIND THAT ACTUAL LINE ITEM FOR YOU.
I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE 800,000 RANGE.
BUT IS THAT GOOD? IS THAT KIND OF CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THOSE? WELL, I CAN DO THE MATH RIGHT.
EIGHT TO THREE, IF YOU TOLD ME THREE FISCAL YEARS.
SO YOU'RE HOLDING, HOLDING CONSISTENT NOW INSTEAD OF ME JUST DIVING INTO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF RATES, CAUSE WE'VE GOT THE RATE STUDY, WE'RE FOLLOWING THE RATE STUDY.
DOES THE RATE STUDY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT GOAL, THAT 800,000 GOLD? YES, YES.
AND THAT, AND THEY STUDIED THAT AND SAYING, THIS IS A GOOD NUMBER TO HAVE FOR THE OVERALL HEALTH OF THE UTILITY SYSTEM.
IT VARIES FOR A YEAR, THE YEAR.
SO THERE'S A LOT THAT GOES INTO, INTO THAT NUMBER.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES A YEARLY THAT GOES DOWN.
THE OVERALL GOAL IS TO INCREASE THAT NUMBER YEAR OVER YEAR.
UH, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RNR PROJECTS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE PROJECTS DOWN THE ROAD, UM, HOPEFULLY YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WHICH IS WHY WE WANT TO START SAVING NOW.
THE NUMBER YOU ASKED FOR MR. LUMPKIN IS 871,000.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE USE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET, UH, FOR PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FY 23.
SO THE RACE STUDY TAKES THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND IT ALSO TAKES PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT INTO ACCOUNT.
AND SO AS WE GET MORE, MORE DEVELOPMENT,
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MORE, MORE RATE PAYERS ON THE SYSTEM, HOPEFULLY THAT NUMBER GOES UP OVER TIME.SO, YOU KNOW, FIVE, 10 YEARS OUT, YOU'RE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE MUCH MORE THAN 800,000.
LAST QUESTION THAT JUST PROMPTED.
SO THE RATE STUDY, HOW, HOW OLD WE UPDATED IT LAST YEAR, I STARTED TO UPDATE AND UH, 2020, UH, PRESENTED IT LAST YEAR, ALONG WITH OUR BUDGET PRESENTATION.
AND THIS IS THINGS IT'S KIND OF DYNAMIC.
YOU NEED TO KIND OF KEEP THAT RATE SIDE EVERY FEW YEARS TO HAVE SOMEBODY AT LEAST TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
SEE IF, IF THE PROJECTIONS ARE TYING OUT RIGHT.
UM, SO TH THE MAIN REASON WE TOOK A LOOK AT IT WHEN WE DID, UH, UH, GENERALLY THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO UPDATE MAYBE ONCE EVERY FIVE YEARS, DEPENDING ON HOW YOUR COUNTY'S GROWING, OUR COUNTY IS GROWING SO FAST, WE'RE GETTING SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT WE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, EVEN AFTER TWO YEARS.
AND WE MAY EVEN DO THE SAME THING AGAIN NEXT YEAR, JUST BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON NOW.
SO WE, WE ALWAYS PUT ALL THE INFORMATION INTO THAT STUDY THAT WE HAVE AT THE TIME.
LET ME PIGGYBACK ON THAT WHILE WE'RE ON THE RATES.
CAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF MY TWO QUESTIONS.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE RATIONALE.
LATER THIS EVENING, WE HAVE A $7 MILLION BOND THAT WE'RE ISSUING.
UM, IF WE HAD, IF WE HAD PUBLICIZED THAT WE WERE DOING A 5% INCREASE EVERY YEAR, I DON'T THE TIMING OF THAT.
UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT INCLUDES THE, HEY, WE'VE GOT TO FIX THIS PIPE.
THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM FOR, SINCE IT WAS PUT IN APPARENTLY, BUT IT SEEMS ODD THAT WE WOULD BE REDUCING RATES WHEN WE'RE ASKING TO BORROW $7 MILLION.
SO WHAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT'S RIGHT.
SO THE RATES ARE BEING REDUCED.
UH, THE PERCENT INCREASES ARE BEING REDUCED, BUT THE RATES ARE STILL THE PERCENT INCREASES.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UH, WE STILL WANT TO STICK WITH THE RATE STUDY WITH WHAT WE'VE DONE AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE BORROWING.
DID THE STUDY INCLUDE THE $7 MILLION PRICE.
NOW, NOW ALL THAT STUFF, WHICH WE'LL, WE'LL GO OVER TONIGHT HALF AND AFTER THE RATE STUDY UPDATE, UH, WHAT A SERVICE LOOKS LIKE ON THAT IS ABOUT 450,000 A YEAR.
SO IT DOES IMPACT WHAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE RNR FUND.
AND WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE INCREASE FROM MIGHT BE NEGLIGIBLE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH I THINK, YEAH, JUST IF I COULD JUST MR. CHAIR, MAYBE CLIPS, I TRIED TO CLEAR UP SOME OF THIS.
I MAY END UP MUDDYING THE WATERS.
I THINK MR. LUMPKINS WAS TOUCHING IN AND AROUND W WE WANT TO, YOU KNOW, RAISE RATES ENOUGH TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE, BUT NOT RAISE 'EM TOO MUCH AND HAVE TOO MUCH RESERVES BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AS GOOD FIDUCIARIES.
SO THEN WHAT IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF RESERVES TO SET ASIDE AND I'LL DRAW THE PARALLEL TO OUR GENERAL FUND.
WE'VE GOT TO BUILD A NEW SCHOOL.
WE DON'T RAISE THE 53 CENT RATE TO PAY FOR THIS SCHOOL.
WE IT'S A LUMPY ONE-TIME STEP FUNCTION.
SO IN THIS CASE, THAT PIPE, I WOULD LOOK AT LIKE A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AS A ONE-TIME STEP FUNCTION THAT WASN'T REALLY NECESSARILY CAPTURED IN THE 53 OR THE, THE, THE RATE, UH, UNDERLYING RATES FROM THE WATER AND SEWER.
SO EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE A LUMPY PROJECT WOULD COME ALONG AND YOU MANAGE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU DO THE ANNUAL OPERATING.
BUT I THINK AS FAR AS THIS RATE STUDY, I THINK IT WAS MEANT TO CAPTURE THE ANNUAL OPERATING AND HOW ARE WE DOING ON A DAILY BASIS? AND IF SOMETHING LUMPY DOES COME ALONG AND IT'S EXTRAORDINARY OUT OF THE ORDINARY, YOU FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DEAL WITH IT.
BUT TRYING TO PRICE THAT INTO THE ANNUAL OPERATING BUDGET AND THE RESERVES WOULD BE DIFFICULT AT BEST.
IS THAT A FAIR CHARACTER? THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
WHEN IT COMES TO STRATEGIZING RATES, IF THEY NEED TO INCREASE, WE WANT THAT TO BE, YOU KNOW, IS EVEN, AND, YOU KNOW, SMALL INCREMENTAL INCREASES AS WE CAN AND MAKE IT PALATABLE TO OUR RATE PAYERS AT THE SAME TIME AS, UH, MR. PETERSON SUGGESTED WE DON'T WANT TO JUST KNEE JERK WITH OUR RATES TO ONE PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY BORN FROM AN EMERGENCY SITUATION.
SO, UH, WE KNOW WE HAVE THE, THE FUNDS COMING IN WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, CURRENT USER RATES RIGHT NOW.
AND WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING, WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO IS IMPACT HOW MUCH WE'RE ABLE TO TRANSFER TO THE RNR FUND OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS AND WHATNOT.
BUT ONE WAY YOU CAN LOOK AT IT IS BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS TECHNICALLY OUR AND OUR PROJECT NOW, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT LATER TONIGHT, THAT'S A PROJECT WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO DO 20, 30 YEARS IN THE FUTURE.
SO, SO IS IT THE SAFETY? SO THEN WHAT I THINK I'M HEARING FROM, FROM EVERYBODY IS THAT WHILE THAT $7 MILLION MAY NOT BE IN THE RATE STUDY, THE DEBT SERVICE CAN ALREADY BE KIND OF WHERE EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T RAISE THE RATES, CORRECT.
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IT.AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION IS GOING TO SOUND A LITTLE OUT OF LEFT FIELD, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT, I'VE BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT WHERE ARE POINTS OF FAILURE FROM SUPPLY CHAINS.
AND I THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH GAS DO WE HAVE IN RESERVE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT'S ACTUALLY LITERALLY KEEPING ME UP AT NIGHT.
AND YOU SAID SOMETHING IN ONE OF YOUR FIRST SLIDES, AND I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, WHAT IS WITH THE CHEMICAL PURCHASES? UM, WHAT IS THE, THE RELIABILITY AND THE SUPPLY CHAIN ON THOSE, AND SHOULD WE BE STOCKPILING OR SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION FOR THOSE.
THE CHEMICALS THAT I MENTIONED, UM, IS REALLY BY OXIDE.
SO BY OXIDES, UM, ACTUALLY EARLY SPENCER CHEMICAL, WE PUT INTO THE WASTEWATER AT OUR EASTERN GROUPS AND PUMP STATION BECAUSE OF THE LONG RETENTION LAW, TOM OF THAT PIPELINE.
UH, LET'S JUST SAY, WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE WASTEWATER TO PREVENT ADVERSE CONDITIONS, UH, BEFORE THAT, THAT W WASTEWATER MAKES IT TO THE TREATMENT PLANT.
UM, WHEN WE, BECAUSE WE HAVE INCREASING, UH, DEMANDS ON OUR SYSTEM, INCREASING FLOWS TO THE SEWER SYSTEM, THE MORE FLOW WE GET THROUGH THAT STATION, THE MORE BOX I WORK AT A NEED OF USE.
UH, SO THAT, THAT, THAT INCREASE KIND OF LINES UP WITH THAT.
BUT AS FAR AS THE RELIABILITY OF OUTSIDE, THAT THAT'S ALL MANAGED BY A COMPANY CALLED EVOQUA, THEY MANAGED THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, UH, TO DATE, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, THANKFULLY, UH, I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUES THEY FACE WHEN I TALK WITH OUR SALES REPRESENTATIVE OR FINDING TRUCK DRIVERS TO DELIVER THE CHEMICAL.
SO, YEAH, THAT'S A LABOR ISSUE AND MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, BUT SHOULD, SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE ON HAND? HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH CAN WE GO WITH IF ALL OF A SUDDEN THE TRUCK DRIVERS? SO GOOD QUESTION.
UH, WE HAVE THREE LARGE TANKS AT THAT, AT THAT PUMP STATION.
IT KEEPS A FAIR AMOUNT ON HAND, I WOULD SAY, UH, PROBABLY A WEEK SUPPLY.
UH, WHAT THAT DOES IS ALLOW, ALLOWS, UH, EVOKE WHAT, UH, ALLOWS THEM A LITTLE BUFFER TIME TO GET THE CHEMICAL AND IT CAN FILL IT UP.
YOU KNOW, THAT CHEMICAL COMES IN WE'LL TANKER TRUCKS AND, AND UNLOADS, UH, A LOT OF CHEMICAL AT THE TIME.
SO, UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS, YOU KNOW, IT SAY WE DID RUN OUT OF CHEMICAL IS NOT DIRE THAT WE CAN GO A DAY OR TWO WITHOUT IT, UM, THAT CAN POTENTIALLY HAPPEN WITHOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, CATASTROPHIC RESULTS, UH, WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN, BUT IF IT DID, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THE SAME, IT'S NOT ON THE SAME LEVEL OF CRITICALITY AS RUNNING OUT OF CHLORINE AT A WATER TREATMENT PLANT.
SO, SO HOW MUCH CHLORINE DO WE HAVE? WE HAVE ZERO CHLORINE.
UH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T DO ANY WATER TREATMENT.
WE HAVE, UH, RELATIONSHIPS WITH, UH, HENRICO COUNTY, THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.
WE PURCHASE ALL OUR WATER ALREADY TREATED FOLLOW UP.
UH, CHAIRMAN'S COMING HERE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A VALID ONE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF RISK EXPOSURE WE MIGHT HAVE.
FIRST QUESTION IS THAT CHEMICAL THAT WE DO STOCKPILE IS THAT SHELF STABLE LOADS.
IF WE COULD SIT THERE FOR SIX MONTHS AND NOT, YES.
THE SECOND THING IS, AS YOU INCREASE THE VOLUMES, AS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF DAYS SUPPLY ON HAND DECREASES, BECAUSE YOU'RE GETTING A FASTER RATE, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE SHERIFF DEPUTIES AND, AND, UH, CHIEF FERGUSON ABOUT THE MORE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD, THE DAY SUPPLY OF GASOLINE SHRINKS, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF GALLONS.
AND SO I THINK THE TERM WAS GETTING AT HERE IS DO WE NEED TO MAINTAIN THE NUMBER OF DAYS SUPPLY IN THE FACE OF INCREASING USAGE TO ADD ADDITIONAL CAPACITY? AND IF SO, CAN WE PUT THAT INTO OUR PLANNING FOR, YOU KNOW, RATE STUDIES AND, YOU KNOW, THE CAP CIP PROGRAM, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION THAN AN ANSWER.
SO HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT ALONG THOSE LINES? YEAH.
THAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE BUILDING ANOTHER STORAGE TANK AT THE STATION TO INCREASE THE SUPPLY RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE VOLUME WE CAN STORES IT'S AS FIXED, AND THERE'S NO MORE ROOM IN THAT, IN THAT, IN THE CHEMICAL ROOM TO STORE ANY MORE CHEMICAL.
UM, WE'VE HAD NO ISSUES TODAY FROM EVOKE, BUT THEY MANAGE THAT PROGRAM.
THEY HAVE SET POINTS, UH, THEY CAN SEE REMOTELY WHEN A TANK NEEDS FEELING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S REDUNDANCY ALREADY BUILT INTO THE STATION.
THERE ARE THREE TANKS THERE, YOU KNOW, ONCE ONE TANKS GETS TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, THEY'RE SENDING TRUCKS OUT.
SO THERE IS SOME REDUNDANCY ALREADY BUILT IN, UM, UH, HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
WE ALL UNDERSTAND MOORE'S LAW HASN'T BEEN REPEALED YET.
AND, UH, THERE IS NEED FOR ADDITIONAL STORAGE IF YOU DETERMINED THAT THERE'S NEED, IS THAT REST AND RELAXATION FUNDS OR IS THAT, CAN WE HAVE THE MONEY TO THE RNR? I MEAN, WHERE WOULD THAT, WHERE WOULD THAT FUNDS COME FROM THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, UM, TO THAT STATION.
I THINK THE SECOND STREAM DOWN, IT WOULD BE IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A PROJECT TO INCREASE THE CAPACITY
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OF THE STATION.SO THE POINT THAT IF I MAY, SO, UH, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT UP ANOTHER TANK? UH, IT'S TIGHT RIGHT NOW? UH, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
YOU GOT JUST APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THE LAND TODAY AND CONSENT.
SO ABSOLUTE OPPORTUNITY FOR, UM, WHAT, ONCE WE CLOSED, OPEN UP, UH, THE WHOLE OXIDE THING, THAT'S REALLY, I MEAN, IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG, WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH HENRICO, RIGHT.
BECAUSE I MEAN, THEY WERE PUMPING THE STUFF TO THEM AND THE CITY AND, AND OF COURSE, I THINK CAN RANKO, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A FINANCIAL ASPECT THAT HENRICO IS VERY INVOLVED IN PAYING FOR THE BIOPSY, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THOSE REIMBURSE US FOR, BY OUTSIDE COSTS ON A FLOW-BASED PERCENTAGE OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, THAT'S BEEN ROUGHLY AROUND A 75, 25 SPLIT, JUST WORKING, MAKING SURE THIS WORKS AND CONTINUES TO WORK IS A FUNCTION OF NOT JUST OUR SYSTEM, BUT THEIR SYSTEMS AS WELL.
I MEAN, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
SO I THINK IT'S FOR SURE THEY HAVE A BIG, THE BOX SIZE WORKING PROPERLY.
THEY ALSO USE BOT SIDE IN THEIR SYSTEM.
SO I THINK IT'S BIGGER THAN JUST DO WE HAVE ENOUGH TO KEEP OUR SYSTEM BLOWING IT'S IT'S, IT'S TIED INTO THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
IF THERE WAS, IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE, WE WOULDN'T BE OUT ON AN ISLAND BY OURSELVES BY DEFINITION.
I MEAN, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TWO OTHER JURISDICTIONS WHO USE THE SAME AND, AND ARE REIMBURSING US FOR OUR BOX.
I THINK, I THINK WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE ON THAT.
UM, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT BOX SIDE, SO TAKE CARE OF IT, UM, BACK TO, UH, BACK TO THIS.
UM, WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BE ASKED TO LOOK AT TONIGHT.
YOU SAID THERE'S 450,000 APPROXIMATELY AND DEBT SERVICE ON THAT.
SO THAT WHERE'S THAT IN YOUR BUDGET AND YOUR EXPENSES.
SO THAT WOULD BE A DEBT GAP I WAS TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE HAVE, SO THAT WILL COME OUT OF THE ESTIMATED 800 ISH NUMBER.
SO FOUR 50 WOULD GO FOR THE DEBT SERVICE.
THE REMAINDER WOULD GO INTO THE RNR FUND OR THE ESTIMATED EIGHT 70, THAT WOULD BE TRANSFERRED TO THE ARDOUR FUND.
THAT'S WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM.
THAT'S ALL OF OUR NEW BUSINESS.
AND, UM, WE WILL HAVE OUR DINNER RECESS.
HAVE YOU BACK AT THE SIX? ABSOLUTELY.
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[XIII. 6:00 PM - Chair Calls Meeting Back to Order]
THE PART OF OUR MAIN, WHERE WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE NOT BEEN HERE BEFORE FOR THESE, THE WAY THIS WORKS IS, UM, OUR STAFF WILL DO A PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANTS, COME UP TO SPEAK IF THEY LIKE TO.
AND WE MAY ASK SOME QUESTIONS AT THAT POINT AND THEN WE'LL GIVE THE CITIZENS A CHANCE TO COMMENT.
AND WE TYPICALLY ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS ANYTHING THEY'D LIKE TO, AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS AND VOTE ON THE MATTER.
SO WITH THAT, WE'LL START OFF OUR, OH, OKAY.
WELL RE SO THIS IS PRACTICE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD IS FOR THINGS THAT AREN'T IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF YOU HAVE, UM, ITEMS TO BRING IN FRONT OF GOOCHLAND COUNTY, JUST COME ON UP, GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
[XIV. Citizen Comment]
THERE WAS NONE.I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS ACCOUNT PERIOD.
SEE, I KNOW I KNEW I TOLD HIM.
SO NOW IF MR. ALVAREZ ALLOWS US, WE'LL GO TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS
[XV. Public Hearings]
AND THANK YOU FOR KEEPING ME HONEST.UM, SO TURN IT OVER AS BARBARA.
BARBARA HORLOCKER DEPUTY COUNTY
[1. 5297: Resolution providing for the issuance by Goochland County of a Water and]
ADMINISTRATOR.UM, THESE FIRST TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS HAVE TO DO WITH A PROJECT THAT'S THESE PROJECT, VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE COUNTY.
UM, AND THE FIRST, UM, PUBLIC HEARING IS ON A APPROVING A PLAN OF FINANCING WITH VRA, VIRGINIA RESOURCES, AUTHORITY.
AND WE ARE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE IF YOU, UM, IF THE LOCALITY IN VIRGINIA PLANS TO ISSUE BONDS AND THEY HAVE NOT HELD A REFERENDUM, THEY MUST HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THAT IS WHY WE ARE HAVING THIS PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.
UM, SO, UM, IN YOUR PACKET ARE THE, UM, IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE, UM, FINANCING PLAN AS WELL AS THE TERMS OF THE FINANCING.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A DEBT OF THE UTILITIES FUND, AND WE WILL BE PLEDGING OUR WATER AND SEWER REVENUES TO THIS DEBT, AS WELL AS, UM, MAKING A MORAL OBLIGATION PLEDGE, WHICH MEANS THAT ALTHOUGH THE DEBT WON'T SIT ON THE GENERAL FUND SIDE, UM, WE PLEDGE THAT IF THERE ARE ANY SHORTCOMINGS IN THE WATER AND SEWER REVENUES THAT WE WILL MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE, THESE WILL BE 20 YEAR BONDS AND THE MOUNTAIN WILL NOT EXCEED 7 MILLION, $40,000.
AND, UM, THE TERMS OF THE FINANCING ARE ATTACHED AND SOME RECENT CHANGES, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU HAVE AT YOUR, UM, UH, BY YOU.
UM, THERE'VE BEEN SOME RECENT CHANGES TO THE FINANCING AGREEMENT AND, UM, CHANGES IN OUR FAVOR AND BROUGHT TO US BY MR. PETERSON.
AND, UM, WHAT DID THIS ALLOWS FOR? IT JUST MAKES IT VERY CLEAR THAT, UM, THAT THESE BONDS, ONCE THEY GET INTO THE REDEMPTION PERIOD, SO THE FIRST 10 YEARS THEY ARE NOT CALLABLE BONDS, BUT ONCE THEY GET INTO THE, UM, SECOND, 10 YEAR PERIOD, AND THEY BECOME, UM, CALLABLE OR REDEEMABLE THAT WE, ONCE BRA HAS THE RIGHT TO REDEEM OUR BONDS, WE ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT TO REDEEM THEM UNDER THE SAME TERMS THAT VRA IS REDEEMING THE BONDS.
UM, AND SO THIS WAS JUST TO CLEAR THAT UP.
WE OF COURSE HAVE TO GIVE THEM NOTICE AND LET THEM,
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UM, LET THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO REDEEM THOSE BONDS.AND WE HAVE TO, AND THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, DISCUSSION IN THE FINANCING ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU WOULD HAVE TO SET ASIDE.
BUT IT DOES GIVE US OPTIONS IF 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, WE WANT TO, UM, REDEEM THESE BONDS.
AND OF COURSE, IF THERE ARE ANY REFINANCING OPPORTUNITIES, THE, UM, VRA WOULD BRING THOSE TO US TO BENEFIT US AND LOWER OUR DEBT SERVICE, THE PROJECT.
I'M JUST GOING TO DESCRIBE BRIEFLY, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING A DETAILED PROJECT INFORMATION IN THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THIS IS THE PROJECT TO REPLACE APPROXIMATELY 11,000 LINEAR FEET OF SEWER PIPELINE THAT CARRIES WASTEWATER FROM THE EASTERN GOOCHLAND PUMP STATION.
AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS PLAN OF FINANCING.
SO AT THIS POINT, IF YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE PLAN OF FINANCING, UM, I WILL TAKE QUESTIONS, ANY QUESTIONS I TELL YOU TO DO A GOOD JOB PRESENTING THAT BARBARA, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
UM, BUT SOME FOLKS, EITHER LISTENING AT HOME OR IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, MAYBE THINKING WE JUST GOT AAA CREDIT RATING, WE JUST DID A GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.
WHY ARE WE GOING BACK THROUGH VRA FOR THESE? UM, PART OF THE ANSWER IS GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.
UH, THE ENTIRE COUNTY STANDS BEHIND THE REPAYMENT IN THIS CASE, ONLY THE BENEFICIARIES OF THE IMPROVEMENT IN THE DISTRICT WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, WOULD BE THE ONES THAT STAND BEHIND THE BOND SINCE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT STAND TO BENEFIT FROM THE IMPROVEMENT.
SO IT WOULD BE THE REVENUE BONDS FROM THE DISTRICT THAT WOULD BENEFIT AS OPPOSED TO THE ENTIRE COUNTY.
UM, AND THEN WHY DOESN'T THE TCSD ISSUE DIRECTLY TO THE CAPITAL MARKETS RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH VRA SINCE WE'RE A AAA RATED COUNTY AND THE SHORT ANSWER THERE IS THE COUNTY'S RATED TRIPLE, BUT THE DISTRICT IS NOT, THE DISTRICT DOES NOT HAVE A CREDIT RATING, SO IT CANNOT GO DIRECT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A SAVINGS AS WELL TO, TO GOING DIRECT.
UM, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE TERM SHEET THAT GOING INDIRECT THROUGH THE VRA IS MORE EXPENSIVE.
THEY CHARGE AN EIGHTH OF A PERCENT UPFRONT FOR AN ORIGINATION FEE AND AN EIGHTH OF A PERCENT OF THE OUTSTANDING AS YOU GO.
SO IT'S A FAIRLY EXPENSIVE, BUT AT THIS POINT, THE PROJECT IS ESSENTIAL.
YOU CAN'T USE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS AND CAN'T GO DIRECT.
SO WE GO THROUGH VERY RA, WE PAY THE FREIGHT AND WE'RE JOINING A POOL OF OTHER COUNTIES AND CITIES THAT MIGHT BE IN THE POOL.
SO IT'S NOT A, UM, IT'S NOT A SOLO INVESTMENT OR ISSUANCE BY US, WE'RE IN A POOL.
AND THEN OF COURSE THERE'S A MIRROR NOTE OR A SECOND PHASE WHERE THE VRA WILL ISSUE THE POOL BONDS OUT TO THE MARKET TO RAISE THE CASH.
SO THIS IS AN INDIRECT WAY TO RAISE THE MONEY, BUT IT'S THE CHEAPEST FORM OF FINANCING THAT'S AVAILABLE TO US AT THE TIME.
IS THAT A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION, BUT THAT'S A VERY FAIR CHARACTERIZATION, RIGHT? THANK YOU.
THE BOARD, I'LL ENTERTAIN THE MOTION.
I'M NEW AT THIS, YOU KNOW, UM, NOW'S THE TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO, UH, IN FAVOR OF, OR AGAINST THIS.
SEE, NOBODY GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT WHERE WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE.
IF MS. JENNIFER YOU'RE READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
IT'S GOING TO BE AN AMENDED MOTION BECAUSE OF THE, UH, DEFEASANCE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE REDEMPTION LANGUAGE THAT WAS ADDED TO SECTION 6.2, PERHAPS I COULD JUST READ THE REVISED LANGUAGE AND THEN SECTION 6.2, THAT THE TITLE IS DEFEASANCE AND REDEMPTION OF LOCAL BOND.
UM, SUB A, THE LOCAL BOND SHALL BE SUBJECT TO OPTIONAL REDEMPTION BY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT AT THE TIME.
AND UNDER SIMILAR TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT THE VRA BONDS ARE SUBJECT TO OPTIONAL REDEMPTION BY VRA.
SO THAT REFERS TO THE SECOND STAGE.
I TALKED ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE ISSUING BONDS AS WELL.
SO WE BASICALLY ARE PIGGYBACKING WITH THE SAME TERMS AND CONDITIONS THEY HAVE FOR OPTIONAL REDEMPTION.
AND OF COURSE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REDEMPTION AND DEFEASANCE.
UH, IF YOU HAVE A MORTGAGE AND YOU'RE MAKING YOUR PAYMENTS, IF YOU REDEEM THEM OR REFINANCE THEM, YOU STOP PAYING UNDER THE OLD NOTES.
IF YOU DEFEASE, YOU HAVE TO BASICALLY SET UP AN ESCROW ACCOUNT AND DEPOSIT ENOUGH SECURITIES RISKLESS SECURITIES IN THAT ACCOUNT THAT THEY CAN DRAW THE REMAINING PAYMENTS FOR THE LIFE OF THE ORIGINAL LOAN.
SO THEY'D BE LIKE CONTINUING TO PAY YOUR OLD MORTGAGE OUT OF CASH THAT YOU SET ASIDE TO MAKE ALL THOSE PAYMENTS.
SO IT'S A MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE AND PROHIBITIVE WAY TO DO IT, BUT HAVING THE ABILITY TO REDEEM IN ADDITION TO THE FEES GIVES US THAT OTHER OPTION OF BEING ABLE TO TAKE THEM OUT WITH HAPPENING WITHOUT HAVING TO DEPOSIT ALL THOSE CASH IN THE ESCROW ACCOUNT.
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SO THAT'S A SUBTLE DISTINCTION.THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE AMENDMENT.
AND THERE'S SOME LINE BLACK LINE INFORMATION THAT AT YOUR DESKS, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT.
NO, BUT DO YOU JUST WANT TO STATE THAT THERE ARE TWO OTHER CHANGES IN THAT SECTION THAT YOU HAVEN'T READ OR DO I HAVE TO READ THAT FOR SURE? I JUST, ONCE YOU STARTED TO READ IT, I THOUGHT WE WOULD PUT IT ALL IN, IN SUB PARAGRAPH B WHERE THE WORD AND IS YOU WOULD STRIKE THAT AND PUT, OR, AND IN SUB PARAGRAPH B ONE AFTER WRITTEN NOTICE OF YOU WOULD ADD THE LANGUAGE, ITS INTENT TO DEFEASE OR REDEEM THE LOCAL BOND.
AND, AND I BELIEVE THOSE ARE ALL THE LANGUAGE CHANGES.
AGAIN, THEY ARE AVAILABLE IN WRITING THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE IT BEFORE AND THE CLERK HAS IT.
UM, SO IT'S CLEAR WHAT THE AMENDMENTS ARE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE AMENDMENTS? RIGHT.
SEEING THEN MR. CHACO HAD MAKE A MOTION.
UM, I MOVED TO THE GORE BOARD OF THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE AS AMENDED THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION, APPROVING A PLAN OF FINANCING WITH THE VRA FOR PURPOSES OF PLANNING AND CONSTRUCTING APPROXIMATELY 11,000 LINEAR FEET OF REPLACEMENT, SEWER PIPELINE.
WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND BOARD.
ANY DISCUSSION SEEING NONE I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
CACHE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, AGAIN, DEALS WITH THE SIMILAR OR THE SAME TOPIC.
UM, AND WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT BECAUSE WE ARE ASKING TO AMEND OUR BUDGET FOR AN AMOUNT EXCEEDS ONE MORE THAN 1% OF A TOTAL EXPENDITURES
[2. 5286: Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2022 Goochland County Budget by]
OF THE CURRENTLY ADOPTED BUDGET.SO, UM, IN A MINUTE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE DETAILS OF THE PROJECT, BUT THE COSTS OF THE PROJECT ARE AT THIS POINT, ESTIMATED TO BE $7.2 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION, 750,000 FOR ENGINEERING AND CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION AND $40,000 FOR THE COST OF ISSUANCE OF THE BONDS, THE SOURCE OF THE REVENUES, UM, 7 MILLION, 40,000 IN BONDS, UM, THAT PROCEEDS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED AND THEN $950,000 FROM THE RNR FUND, WHICH WE LEARNED EARLIER, UM, IS ACCUMULATED FROM EXCESS USER FEES.
UM, AND NOW, UM, MR. LONG-SHORT IS GOING TO COME UP AND DISCUSS THE PROJECT.
AGAIN, I'M MATT LONGSHORE, UH, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC UTILITIES.
UH, SO TO, TO GIVE YOU A QUICK PROJECT BASIS, THIS PROJECT IS REALLY THE RESULT OF THE SEWAGE SPILL THAT OCCURRED LAST YEAR.
AND TO GIVE YOU A QUICK REFRESHER ON WHAT HAPPENED BACK IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, UH, THE 48 INCH FORCE ME, WHICH COMES FROM THE EASTERN GREENLAND PUMP STATION RUPTURED ALONG RIVER ROAD.
I SPILLED APPROXIMATELY 300,000 GALLONS OF RAUL WASTEWATER.
UH, PART OF THAT SPILLAGE WENT INTO NEARBY, TOOK A CREEK, AND THAT COST THE RECREATIONAL ADVISORY, UH, TO BE ISSUED FROM VDH, UH, TO, TO IMMEDIATELY RECTIFY THAT ONE SINGLE EVENT.
UH, WE BROUGHT IN A UTILITY CONTRACTOR.
WE ALSO BROUGHT IN AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONTRACTOR, UH, TO REMEDIATE THE SITE, UH, TOTAL REPAIR, UH, COST FOR THE PIPELINE, AS WELL AS THE, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP REPAIRS.
UH, PROSTMATE AT ABOUT $130,000.
SO, UM, THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY A VERY EXPENSIVE EVENT FOR US.
UH, THE PIPE HAS BEEN REPAIRED.
WE'RE CURRENTLY RUNNING THAT PIPELINE IN A REDUCED CAPACITY SCENARIO.
UM, HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT A LONG-TERM FIX AND THAT DOESN'T SERVE THE LONG-TERM NEEDS OF THE COUNTY.
UH, WHAT SERVES THE LONGTERM NEEDS IS TO PERMANENTLY REPAIR THIS PIPELINE.
SO, UM, I SWITCHED THE SLIDE SO IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE SPILL OCCURRED, UH, WE CONTACTED DEWBERRY ENGINEERS TO DO A STUDY ON THE PIPELINE AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS TO PERMANENTLY REPAIR THAT LINE.
UH, ONCE THE STUDY WAS COMPLETED, UH, THE RECOMMENDATIONS COMING FROM THAT STUDY WERE TO REPLACE ABOUT 11,000 LINEAR FEET OF PIPELINE, UH, DUE TO THE RECENT BREAK OF THE LINE AND DUE TO PREVIOUS LEAKS THAT HAVE HAPPENED THROUGH THE YEARS ON THE LINE, UH, THAT WE'VE HAD TO REPAIR AS WELL.
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THAT IN ADDITION TO THE POTENTIAL UNKNOWN CONSTRUCTION FLAWS FOR THE ORIGINAL INSTALLATION OF THAT LINE, UH, WE, THAT WAS THE RIGHT RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE.UM, RIGHT AFTER THAT, DEWBERRY COMPLETED A PRELIMINARY ENGINEER REPORT ON THAT PIPELINE TO DETERMINE THE BASIS OF DESIGN AND PROVIDE A CONSTRUCTION COST ESTIMATE TO, UM, FOR US TO SEE WHAT IT'S GOING TO COSTS, UH, TO MAKE THOSE PERMANENT REPAIRS.
SO, UH, OUT OF THAT PRELIMINARY ENGINEER REPORT, UH, DEWBERRY IDENTIFIED THE, THE AREA OF THE PIPELINE THAT NEEDED TO BE REPAIRED.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE SCREEN, THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK.
UM, THEIR SUPPORT IS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.
IT LOOKED AT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS REGARDING THE PROJECT, LOOKED AT MATERIAL SELECTION.
IT LOOKED AT CONSTRUCTABILITY METHODS AND WHAT WAS THE BEST WAY TO FORMULATE THIS PROJECT AND THE BEST DIRECTION TO GO WITH MAKING THESE REPAIRS? UH, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF, OUT OF THIS REPORT, UH, WAS IDENTIFYING SECTIONS OF THE PIPELINE AND HOW WE COULD USE DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION METHODS TO, UH, HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS.
WHAT'S THE BEST CONSTRUCTIVE CONSTRUCTABILITY METHOD TO USE FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.
CAN WE MIX AND MATCH METHODS, UM, DO VERY LOW THAT IDENTIFIED ALL THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS THAT YOU'RE SEEING, UM, POINTED OUT BESIDE, UH, THAT IDENTIFIED A PORTION OF PIPELINE.
WE PLAN TO USE A COMBINATION OF OPEN CUT CONSTRUCTION, AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S LITERALLY HOW IT SOUNDS.
YOU HAVE AN EXCAVATOR THAT OPENS THE GROUND UP, REMOVES THE WHOLE PIPE, PUTS A NEW PIPE BACK IN HIS PLACE.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE AREAS IDENTIFY FOR OUR SLIP LINE CONSTRUCTION.
UH, WHAT THAT IS IS ESSENTIALLY WHERE YOU'RE USING THE OLD PIPE IS SHOVING A NEW PIPE THROUGH IT.
UH, THE BENEFITS OF SLIP LINE CONSTRUCTION.
IT HAS A LOT LESS IMPACT, UM, ON THE PROPERTY OWNERS AROUND IT.
SO, UH, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AREAS WHERE BOTH OF THOSE METHODS WILL WORK.
OUR ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION COSTS, UH, AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW IS, UH, $7.13 MILLION.
AND THAT, UH, HAS A 15% CONTINGENCY BUILT INTO THAT NUMBER, UH, ANTICIPATED PROJECT SCHEDULE.
UM, ALSO COMING FROM THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING REPORT, UH, FROM WHEN THAT, UH, WHEN THE PRELIMINARY FIELD ENGINEERING STARTED, UH, TO FINAL COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, WE'RE ESTIMATING AROUND A HUNDRED WEEKS.
SO IT WAS ROUGHLY TWO YEARS WITH CONSTRUCTION LASTING A YEAR.
UH, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE BEST GUESS IS RIGHT NOW, BUT IT WAS REALLY DEPENDENT ON A CONTRACTOR.
WE'RE HOPING WE CAN GET THE PROJECT DONE, UH, MUCH QUICKER, BUT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, INPUT FROM CONTRACTORS, UM, OR FROM THE WINNING CONTRACTOR, UH, WE WANTED TO STAY CONSERVATIVE ON THIS ANTICIPATED SCHEDULE AT THIS TIME.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AND ALSO HAVE OUR PROJECT MANAGER, UH, FROM DEWBERRY RICHARD KINCHELOE HERE WITH US.
IF THERE ARE ANY TECHNICAL QUESTION, ANY SPECIFIC PROJECT QUESTIONS, UH, RICHARD WOULD BE HAPPY TO HOP UP IN ANSWER TO AS WELL WHEN YOU RESPOND TO SHORT WORD, ANY QUESTIONS.
SO BY REPLACING THIS SECTION OF PIPE THAT YOU SHOWED US ON THE MAP, DOES IT PUT PRESSURE ON EITHER END OF IT, THE OTHER PIPE? DOES IT WEAKEN THAT IN ANY WAY? CAUSE IT WAS LIKE TAKING A SLICE OUT OF, SORT OF THE CENTER.
SO IT'S REPLACING THAT SECTION OF PIE RIGHT THERE AT THE FRONT END OF THE PIPELINE COMING OUT OF THE PUMP STATION.
UH, I WOULD SAY, NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO INCREASE THE PRESSURE ON THE REST OF THE PIPE.
SO THE, THE PORTIONS OF THE PIPELINE THAT ARE SLIP LINE, I BELIEVE IN RICHARD CAN SPEAK TO SOME OF THIS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE PIPELINE WE'RE GOING TO BE INSTALLING, IT'S ALL THE SAME DIAMETER THROUGH THE, UH, REHABBED AND REPLACED SECTION.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS VELOCITIES MAY INCREASE IN THAT SECTION, BUT PRESSURES ON THE REST OF THE PIPELINE SHOULD NOT BE INCREASED, BUT I'LL HAND THAT WENT OVER TO THE MODELING EXPERT, RICHARD AND, UH, HE CAN, WELL, THANK YOU.
UM, SO AS FAR AS, UH, ON BOTH ENDS, WE'RE ACTUALLY CONNECTING TO DUCTILE IRON PIPE.
UH, THE PORTION OF PIPE IS, UM, AN FRP PIPE, WHICH BELIEVES STANDS FOR FIBERGLASS REINFORCED PIPE.
AND I MAY HAVE THAT ACRONYM WRONG, BUT, UM, IT IS A FIBERGLASS PIPE, UM, AND DUCTILE IRON IS A MUCH STRONGER PIPE, SO WE WILL BE CONNECTING, UH, ESSENTIALLY CONNECTING, UM, UH, A THICKER PLASTIC PIPE TO TWO METAL PIPES.
UM, SO ANY, ANY PRESSURE, UM, INSIDE THE FORCE MAIN, THERE WILL BE SLIGHTLY HIGHER VELOCITIES BECAUSE THE INNER, THE GET THE SMALLER PIPE THROUGH THE LARGER PIPE, THERE IS A REDUCTION THERE.
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PRESSURE WISE UNDER STATIC CONDITIONS, THERE WILL BE NO CHANGE AT ALL.SO WE'RE NOT SETTING UP DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE? NO.
THIS LAST QUICK OTHER QUESTIONS.
I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SANDRA WARWICK, 3 6, 7 SWINBURNE ROAD MANNEQUIN SABOT WILL THIS REPLACE ALL OF THE FIBER REINFORCED PIPE THAT WAS USED WHEN THIS TCSD WAS FIRST BUILT BECAUSE DURING CONSTRUCTION PHASE, THAT WAS JUST A NIGHTMARE AND LET'S GET THIS FIXED ONCE AND FOR ALL.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP RE UH, ADDRESSING IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS.
CLOSING THE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE.
UM, MR. LONGSHORE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECORD.
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, MS. WARWICK, UM, THIS, THIS PROJECT WILL NOT REPLACE ALL OF THE FRP IN THE SYSTEM.
IT WILL REPLACE WHAT REPRESENTS PHASE ONE OF INITIAL CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE KNOW THERE WERE CONSTRUCTABILITY ISSUES IN PHASE ONE.
THERE WERE ISSUES WITH THE CONTRACTOR, UH, POTENTIALLY HOW THAT PIPE WAS INITIALLY PUT INTO THE GROUND.
SO THIS WILL REPLACE ALL OF THAT PHASE OF INITIAL CONSTRUCTION AND IT WILL ALSO REPLACE ALL OF THE AREA THAT HAS HAD ISSUES IN THE PAST 20 YEARS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. LONG SHORT? UM, SO MS. JARRETT, SORRY, WE'RE REPLACING THE PIPE, BUT DID YOU ALSO SAY THAT WE'RE DOING ADDITIONAL PREP WORK ON THE BED THAT THE PIPE SLEEPS ON SO THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY ISSUES? THERE IS THAT, SO, UH, GOOD QUESTION.
SO THE AREAS WHERE THERE WOULD BE OPEN CUT, UH, CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THE AREAS WHERE SLIP LINE CONSTRUCTION WILL BE USED, THE NEW PIPE WILL BE PUSHED INSIDE THE OLD PIPE, THE ANNULAR SPACE BETWEEN THE OUTSIDE OF THE NEW PIPE AND THE INSIDE OF THE OLD PIPE WILL BE FILLED WITH GROUT, UM, THAT WILL PROVIDE EXTRA PROTECTION WHERE THERE MAY BE, UH, SOME PIPE BEDDING ISSUES.
READY FOR A MOTION? IS THAT THE DEAL YOU'RE READY FOR A MOTION? UM, SO THIS, THIS MOTION WOULD BE FOR THE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE IN THE FUNDS.
UH, ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR OUR, UM, LEGAL STAFF, UM, MS. MCGEE, UM, THE SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR THIS PROJECT THAT WE'RE PASSING THE RESOLUTION ON THE SOURCE OF FUNDS WOULD AT LEAST IN PART BE FROM THE PRIOR PUBLIC HEARING, THE PROCEEDS SOURCE OF FUNDS QUESTIONS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO HER.
AND THEN I BELIEVE A QUESTION TO FOLLOW.
SO SOURCE OF FUNDS, UM, FUNDS AND THE RNR FUNDS THAT.
SO THAT'S THE SOURCE OF FUNDS AND THE LEGAL QUESTION WOULD BE, DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUE AT ALL WITH MONEY THAT HASN'T BEEN RAISED YET THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF THE DEBT? YOU KNOW, IT'S, IF WE APPROPRIATE AND THEN THE DEBT ISSUE ISN'T SUCCESSFUL, IS THAT AN ISSUE? SO I GUESS THAT'S THE LEGAL QUESTION.
SO I DON'T HAVE LEGAL ANSWER TO THAT, BUT, BUT THAT'S OFTEN DONE LIKE, UM, ACTUALLY THAT'S HOW WE DID LAST YEAR CIP.
WE SAID THE SOURCE OF THE FUNDS FOR THE NEW GOOCHLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WAS WORDS, BONDS.
AND THEN WE DIDN'T ISSUE THE BONDS UNTIL THIS, YOU KNOW, A MONTH AGO.
SO, SO YOU WERE PLANNING TO ISSUE BONDS.
I MEAN, IF THERE COME ANY CHANGE, OBVIOUSLY WE'D HAVE TO COME TO BACK TO THE BOARD TO SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE FUNDS WEREN'T AVAILABLE OR WHATEVER THE CHANGE WAS AND, AND MAKE A CHANGE.
BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S OFTEN DONE IN BUDGETS THAT THAT'S YOUR PLAN BUDGET, THE PLAN.
MS. HORLACHER SAYS, AND TO YOUR BUDGET, YOU APPROPRIATE FUNDS ON REVENUES THAT HAVEN'T COME IN.
SO THE PROCESS DOESN'T NEED TO FOLLOW WE BUDGET FOR IT, APPROVE A DEBT ISSUANCE,
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ISSUE, THE DEBT, RAISE THE FUNDS AND THEN APPROPRIATE THOSE FUNDS.WE DON'T NEED TO FOLLOW THAT PROCESS.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.
I'M SURE BOSS WAS AWARE OF THAT TITUS WASN'T AND SO, UH, BUT APPROPRIATE AS THE AUTHORIZATION TO SPEND.
RIGHT? SO THAT'S MY QUESTION WAS WE'RE AUTHORIZING THESE EXPENDITURES OF FUNDS THAT HADN'T BEEN RAISED YET, BUT IF THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE, YOU DON'T HAVE THEM.
YOU CAN'T SPEND THEM ALL THE TIME.
AND THANK YOU FOR THAT LEGAL INTERPRETATION AS WELL.
SO NOW I THINK WE'RE ON SOLID GROUND.
SO THAT SAID, LET ME GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR, IF YOU'RE READY.
UM, I MOVED TO THE GOODSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2022 GOODSON COUNTY BUDGET BY BUDGETING AND APPROPRIATING $7,990,000 IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC UTILITIES, REHABILITATION AND REPLACEMENT FUND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ROLL CALL VOTE.
ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO OUR THIRD ITEM.
[3. 5295: Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2022 Goochland County Budget by]
LET'S TWIST UP.DON'T GET ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS AT HOME MARIANA TO A SALE DIRECTOR OF FINANCIAL SERVICES, UH, WE'RE HERE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR BROADBAND AS WAS THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARING.
A PUBLIC HEARING IS REQUIRED BY VIRGINIA CODE AND LOCALLY AMENDS MENZES BUDGET.
IT'S THE MINUTE IT SEES MORE THAN 1% OF THE TOTAL EXPENDITURES OF THE CURRENTLY ADOPTED BUDGET.
THIS IS TO BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE $3.437 MILLION OF FEDERAL AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN ACT ARPA FUNDS FOR BROADBAND EXPANSION.
AS THE BOARD KNOWS, UM, WE FIREFLY WAS AWARDED $79 MILLION IN GRANT FUNDS TO SUPPORT A $288 MILLION RISE PROJECT GOOCHLAND COUNTY.
AS PART OF THAT PROJECT FOR GOOCHLAND, IT WILL INVOLVE 276 MILES OF FIBER TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO APPROXIMATELY 2,765 LOCATIONS.
GOOGLE EMPLOYED GOOCHLAND COUNTY PLEDGED 3 MILLION, $437,500 TOWARDS THIS PROJECT.
AND ALSO AS PART OF THE LARGER PROJECT AND ALSO 3,637,500 FOR THE TOTAL PROJECT, 200,000 OF THAT BEING LOCAL FUNDS, THE LOCAL FUNDS WERE APPROPRIATE ON FEBRUARY 21ST, 2022.
SO WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO TONIGHT IS TO APPROPRIATE AND BUDGET.
THE MAJORITY OF THE FUNDS, THE $3,000,003.4 MILLION, UM, FOR THE PROJECT MR. DURHAM, RIGHT'S BEEN LEADING THE PROJECT AND HE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY DETAIL QUESTION.
THANK YOU, MR. ROSELLE, ANY QUESTIONS BOARD? I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WISH TO COME FORWARD ON THIS ISSUE.
SEE, NOW WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, READY TO MAKE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, PLEASE.
WE APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION AMEND AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 GOODSON COUNTY BUDGET BY BUDGETING AND APPROPRIATING $3,437,500.
AND THE COUNTY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND.
WE HAVE A FIRST AND A GLAD SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION ROLL CALL VOTE, MR. GLUCK.
OUR FOURTH ISSUE APPLICATION FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, MS. SHERRY.
[4. 5253: District 4 - CU-2021-00011 Application by Glynn and Patricia Whitten]
THANK YOU, LISA.THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ALVAREZ, I'M JAMIE SHERRY DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING I WILL BE PRESENTING THIS EVENING IS AN APPLICATION BY GLEN AND PATRICIA WITTEN FOR
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A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE ON VALENTINE ROAD.THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED AS ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY AS SEMI-PUBLIC.
UM, THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE PROPERTY WAS USED BACK WHEN THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED.
MATTHEW'S CHURCH, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IT HAS SOLD SINCE THEN.
SO HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, BUT SEPARATING, UM, OOPS, SORRY, LET ME GET BACK HERE.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AS I MENTIONED IS ADJACENT TO THE CHURCH.
YOU CAN ONLY SEE A LITTLE BIT OF THE PARKING LOT.
UH, THERE TUCKAHOE CREEK DOES, UM, GO BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES.
UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING, UH, BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY THAT I'LL DISCUSS DURING THE PRESENTATION, UH, BUT SURROUNDING IT IS, UM, MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL AND ACROSS FROM, UM, UM, ST.
MATTHEWS IS COMMERCIAL ELISA, AND WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU.
PARDON ME? SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UM, APPLICATION HISTORY AT THE TIME OF THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UH, THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH DID NOT HAVE SEPTIC INFORMATION ON THE, UM, ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THE APPLICANT DEFERRED, UM, THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS UNTIL THEY WERE ABLE TO HIRE AN ENGINEER AND EVALUATE THE SOUL SYSTEM, THE SEPTIC SYSTEM, SO THEY COULD DETERMINE WHAT THE CAPACITY WOULD BE FOR, UH, THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY BUILDING.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING, UM, AS PART OF THEIR PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY, UH, USE AS A WEDDING AND EVENT VENUE, UH, MAXIMUM TOTAL GUESTS WOULD BE 100, INCLUDING INDOOR AND OUTDOOR EVENTS, UM, BASED ON THE SEPTIC, UM, CAPACITY, UM, RESULTS FROM THE STUDY, A MAXIMUM OF 30 GUESTS WOULD BE ALLOWED IN DOORS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUILDING.
IT IS A TWO AND A HALF STORY BUILDING.
UM, IT'S A LITTLE OVER 3000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, HAD BEEN A, UM, CONSTRUCTED IN 1958 AND HAD BEEN USED AS A DWELLING IN 2001.
AS I'D MENTIONED, THEY, UM, ST MATTHEW'S CHURCH DID OWN THE, UH, THE PROPERTY.
THEY DID DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE BUILDING TO ALLOW FOR CHURCH GATHERINGS.
UM, THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN 2018 AND SINCE HAS BEEN USED AS A RENTAL PROPERTY.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, SUBMITTED THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT IS ON THE SCREEN IS AS YOU CAN SEE IT AS, AS HIGH LEVEL.
UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DETAIL IN IT.
WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT THAT, UM, CERTAIN, UH, PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD NEED TO BE MADE TO THE SITE PRIOR TO THEM BEING ABLE TO, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OPENING THE CUP ACTIVITIES.
AND THIS WOULD ALL BE ABLE TO BE ADDRESSED DURING THE PLANET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
UH, SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE, UH, THEY WOULD BE NEED TO REQUIRE 25 PARKING SPACES.
UM, THE CHURCH DID HAVE A GRAVEL PARKING AREA, UM, THAT WOULD JUST NEED TO BE IN, UM, IMPROVED AND MARKED ACCORDINGLY.
UM, THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE, UM, HANDICAP WITHIN THAT 25 SPACES, UM, AS WELL AS PROVIDE AN AREA FOR OVERFLOW PARKING.
UM, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO A 20 FOOT WIDE DRIVE AISLE THAT WOULD SUSTAIN 75,000 POUNDS FOR, UM, ABLE TO HAVE EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT AND ACCESS.
UM, ALSO THROUGH THE SITE, THEY'LL NEED TO HAVE ADA ACCESSIBILITY PROVIDE A LOADING AREA AND INCLUDE SOME IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE REQUIRED ON PORTIONS OF VALENTINE ROAD.
UH, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS WOULD ALL OCCUR AT THE PLANET DEVELOPMENT, UH, PORTION OF THE PROCESS, AND THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO START THEIR CUP ACTIVITY UNTIL THAT WAS APPROVED.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAD PROVIDED WITH HIS, UM, APPLICATION, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S THE CREEK THAT RUNS BETWEEN THE, UM, THE CHURCH AND THEIR PROPERTY, AS WELL AS ANOTHER AREA, WHICH WAS IDENTIFIED ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AS AREAS WHERE THEY WILL HAVE, UM, EVENTS SUCH AS WEDDINGS.
SO THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE BUILDING.
UM, THERE WILL BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO, UM, ENSURE HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY TO THE BUILDING.
UM, THE BUILDING CAPACITY, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, HAS BEEN DETERMINED TO BE A MAXIMUM OF 30 ATTENDEES.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BACK IN SEPTEMBER THREE, PEOPLE ATTENDED, UM, DISCUSSION INCLUDED, UM, THE ACTIVITY SITE LAYOUT AND PARKING, UH, POTENTIAL NOISE AND THE PROXIMITY TO THE CREEK.
UH, NOBODY DID EXPRESS ANY CONCERN OR OPPOSITION, UH, AT THE NOVEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON A FIVE, THE ONE CITIZEN DID SPEAK, UM, BUT THAT WAS A NEUTRAL CONVERSATION.
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SO, UM, THE CONDITIONS, MOST OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS.I'LL, I'LL STOP AND REVIEW ANYTHING THAT'S SPECIFIC, UM, UNIQUE TO THIS CASE.
UM, SO THE USE FOR PUBLIC ASSEMBLY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
UM, ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE REQUIRED THROUGH THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PRIOR TO ANY CUP ACTIVITY.
STARTING AS I MENTIONED, 25 SPACES, UH, PARKING SPACES PLUS OVERFLOW WOULD BE REQUIRED.
UH, THE ACCESS THAT I MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION FOR, UH, FIRE AND REST NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET ONTO THE PROPERTY, THEY WOULD HAVE A LIMITATION OF NOT MORE THAN 20 SQUARE FEET OF SIGNS, UM, ANY LIGHTING, UM, THERE'S, UH, UM, THEY HAVE TO BE DARK SKY APPLY, UH, COMPLIANT, AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE TAKEN CARE OF DURING THE PLANT PLANTER DEVELOPMENT, A HUNDRED GUESTS MAXIMUM.
UM, AND THEN THE, UH, NUMBER NINE HAD BEEN CHANGED TO THE 30 PEOPLE BASED ON, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PLANNING COMMISSION AND THIS APPLICATION HOURS OF OPERATION FOR ALL EVENTS WOULD BE BETWEEN 8:00 AM AND 10:00 PM, UH, DAILY.
AND, UM, YOUR HAVE YOUR STANDARD AMPLIFIED MUSIC AND SOUND ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION AND NO FIREWORKS.
THOSE ARE OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS, UH, AS IS HUNTING AND FIREARMS WOULD BE RESTRICTED AS WELL AS, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET, UM, GIVE NOTICE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING OFFICE, UM, OF THE SCHEDULE FOR EACH SEASON AND YEAR, UH, MES MAINTAIN RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE, UM, ARCHITECTURAL CAP, UM, MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT, WHICH IS ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND NO PARKING ON ANY PUBLIC ROADS, UH, INCLUDING VALENTINE ST MATTHEW'S AND ROCKVILLE ROAD WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE EVENT VENUE.
UM, THERE WERE, THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS ON, UH, COOKING AND DISHWASHING.
ANY OF THAT WOULD OCCUR ON THE, ON THE PREMISE OF THAT HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY, UM, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, UM, UH, LOADING SPACES FOR CATERS AND VENDORS WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, SHOWN AN APPROVAL THROUGH THE PHD PROCESS.
IT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR, UM, A RENEWAL IN MARCH OF 2017.
AND THEN OF COURSE OUR STANDARD TRANSFER OR W OR LEASE, UM, CONDITION.
THANK YOU, MS. SHARON, WITH THE APPLICANT LIKE TO FORWARD, I MAY HAVE QUESTIONS STAFF REAL QUICKLY, EXCUSE ME.
I WAS, I WAS READING THE, THE, UH, CONDITIONS AS THEY ARE IN OUR PACKET.
AND I HAD A QUESTION ON LIGHTING, BUT I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO THAT BECAUSE THE EXPLORATION IN OUR PACKET, THE EXPLORATION IS DECEMBER 20, 26.
AND MY QUESTION TO YOU WAS GOING TO BE, WOULD STAFF HAVE HAD ANY OBJECTION TO MAKING IT, UM, MARCH OF 2027, BUT THE SLIDE YOU JUST HAD MADE THAT CHANGE.
SO THAT LEADS ME TO ASK, ARE THERE ANY OTHER DIFFERENCES IN YOUR SLIDES THAN WHAT'S IN OUR PACKET? AND I APOLOGIZE ABOUT THAT.
WHAT I ANTICIPATE IS, UM, THAT SINCE THE DEFERRAL HAD OCCURRED OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT CHANGE.
NOT JUST, NOT JUST KIND OF GAVE ME PAUSE BECAUSE I WAS HONESTLY, I WAS LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS IN OUR PACKET, NOT SO MUCH WHAT YOU HAD ON THE SLIDE, RIGHT? THE DOCUMENT YOU WAS LOOKING AT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT'S HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE 2 0 3, THAT IS ACTUALLY THE BOARD RESOLUTION, AND THAT HAS A MARCH, UM, GOOD CAT SHEILA TO SEVEN.
AND WE ALL HAVE ALL GET CAUGHT UP IN THAT BEFORE I HAVE FOLKS AT THE STATE, AT ONE POINT WE ASKED WHETHER OR NOT TO REMOVE THEM, BUT THEY ARE PART OF THE RECORD.
I WAS LOOKING AT, OBVIOUSLY, LOOK, IT LOOKED THE SAME, BUT I'M NOT INTO WHAT'S IN THE PACKET.
I ASSUMED I HAD OVERLOOKED IT BECAUSE IT HAD BEEN DEFERRED SOME IN TIMES OF THE EARLIER, EARLIER VERSION.
SO, SO THEN I'LL GO BACK TO MY QUESTION, THEN IT ALL LEAVES ON LIGHTING AND IT READS LOOKING AT THE RIGHT ONE.
NOW THE LIGHTING PLAN COVERING BOTH TEMPORARY AND PERMANENT EXTERIOR LIGHTING MUST BE SUBMITTED AND APPROVED PRIOR TO ANY EXTERIOR LIGHTING BEING INSTALLED OR USED ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, THAT JUST GOT ME THINKING FOR WHATEVER, WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THE LOCATION.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT HAVING LIGHTING THERE WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS THE WAY THIS READS.
IT SEEMS TO ME, THE APPLICANT IS SAYING, IF I DECIDE TO PUT LIGHTING, THIS IS HOW IT MUST BE.
WHAT ARE THOUGHTS? THIS IS MAYBE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT IF THEY PLAN TO, BUT I WONDER IF WE WOULD EVER PUT A CONDITION THAT YOU WILL INSTALL LIGHTING AND IT WILL, YOU KNOW, THEN IT WILL FOLLOW BECAUSE I THINK LIGHTING IS APPROPRIATE IN THIS.
CERTAINLY IF THEY WERE TO HAVE, UM, EVENTS HELD AS LATE AS THEY ARE ALLOWED TO, UH, WE WOULD REQUIRE
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THEM TO HAVE LIGHTING.SO MAYBE I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY'D BE WILLING TO TWEAK THAT A LITTLE BIT IN THAT THEY WILL INSTALL LIGHTING IN THAT AND THAT WE CAN FOLLOW, BUT, BUT YOU'RE SAYING UNDER THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
SO, SO YEAH, SO THEY, IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE OPERATING AT NIGHT, THEY, WE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO TAP THE SAFE.
AS THIS IS ALREADY UNDER THE PLANET DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOUR CONDITION IS IF YOU HAVE LIKE, BUT YOU NEED TO HAVE, RIGHT.
AND IF THEY, AND IF THEY DECIDE THAT'S THEIR ALLOWED HOURS THAT THEY DECIDE NEVER TO OPEN AFTER SIX O'CLOCK, THEY WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE DAYLIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT I'M LEARNING SO MUCH EVERY MEETING.
SO, UM, JUST ORIENT ME, UH, ON THE PARKING.
SO, UM, MAXIMUM OF 25 SPACES TO BE PROVIDED AND THEY HAVE SPACE ON THE PROPERTY FOR THAT.
THERE WAS A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT DONE FOR THE CHURCH.
SO MOVING OFF, UM, Y'ALL ONTO PUBLIC ROADS SHOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE, CORRECT? YEAH.
AND WE HAVE, UM, AS PART OF, UH, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS, THEY HAVE TO A MINIMUM OF 25, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE CODE.
UM, THEY ARE REQUIRED ALSO TO PROVIDE SOME OVERFLOW PARKING AND THAT WOULD ENSURE THAT IF FOR SOME REASON THEY HAD, UH, EVERYBODY DROVE TO THE FACILITY BY THEMSELVES, UM, THEY COULD PARK IN THE OVERFLOW AS OPPOSED TO ON THE ROAD.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE TO DO? I MEAN, DOES IT, DOES IT HAVE TO BE PAID OR BY WHAT? UM, FOR THE, UM, NO, NONE OF THEIR PARKING WILL NEED TO BE PAID BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUIRED.
UM, CAUSE THEY'RE ONLY AT 25, IF THEY WERE TO GO TO 26 REQUIRED, UM, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY, BUT THEY'RE AT 25.
AND SO BASED ON THE MINOR POD THAT ALLOWS THEM TO STAY, UM, GRAVELED, THEY DO STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THE DRIVE AISLES THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THE FIRE RESCUE.
IS THERE SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO DO FOR THE HANDICAPPED PARKING IS YES.
THAT'S TRUE THAT THEY DO ACTUALLY AS PART OF THAT 25, ANY, UM, ANY, UM, HANDICAP PARKING THAT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL WILL MAKE THEM HAVE, HAS TO BE PAVED.
BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THEM PAY THE WHOLE THING.
OKAY, GOOD, GOOD, GOOD ANSWER.
AND ONE OTHER COMMENT YOU'D MADE AND I I'M HAVING TROUBLE FINDING IT.
AND THE CONDITIONS YOU HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS TO VALENTINE ROAD.
SO, UM, THIS IS, UH, SO, UM, VALENTINE ROAD IS PARTIALLY PUBLIC PARTIALLY NONPUBLIC.
AND SO, UM, WHEN YOU GO TO THE NON-PUBLIC SIDE V DOT CANNOT MAKE THEM, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE, UM, THE BRANCHES CUT SO THAT THERE'S CLEARANCE TO, SO THAT THE FIRE RESCUE CAN GET THROUGH THERE.
SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON THE ACCESS THAT THE WIDTH OF THAT, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S CONSISTENT SUSTAIN THE EQUIPMENT, AS WELL AS HAVING IT CLEARED HIGH ENOUGH, THAT WILL BE SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THROUGH THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT ON THE PRIVATE PART.
AND SO THE PRIVATE PORTION OF VALENTINE ROAD WHO OWNS THAT, THE PROPERTY OWNER, I BELIEVE THEY DO.
WHAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. SHARON? OKAY.
I WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD, UH, I'M GLENN WITTEN, UH, UH, 2000 VALENTINE ROAD AT ROCKVILLE AND, UH, MY WIFE AND UP ON THE PROPERTY AND, UH, APPLIED FOR THIS, UH, THE CUP.
AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB ON THE PRESENTATION.
AND, UM, SHE PRETTY MUCH COVERED EVERYTHING THAT, UH, WE HAVE IN MIND.
SO I REALLY JUST, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATION PLAN.
UM, BUT I WAS REALLY CAME UP TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS Y'ALL MIGHT HAVE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. WYNN, MR. LOGINS, DO YOU, DO YOU HEARD THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE LIGHTING, IS YOUR INTENTION TO PUT LIGHTING? YES.
I MEAN, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE A DECENT AMOUNT OF LIGHT IN THERE NOW JUST BECAUSE, I MEAN, IT'S A PRETTY BIG PROPERTY.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE FOR SURE NEED TO EDIT IN THE, UH, FRONT YARD.
UM, ONE WHERE YOU SEE THE CIRCLES THAT SAY CEREMONY, WE WERE GOING TO ADD LIGHTING OUT THERE FOR THE, OF COURSE NIGHT WEDDINGS.
THANK YOU, MS. WATKINS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? YES MA'AM.
AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I MEAN, COMMENTS MOTION WAS CHAIR.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE PROFESSIONAL USE PERMIT.
SEE YOU 2 0 2 1 DASH 6 0 0 1 1 FOR A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE AT 2000 VALENTINE ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
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BOARD? REAL HOVER, MR. PETERSON.UH, MR. SHARP, MR. LUMPKINS TERMAN SPOON HOWARD.
YOU'VE GOT YOUR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, EXCUSE ME.
[5. 5225: District 1 - RZ-2021-00011 Application by Danny and Madison Queensberry]
UH, THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS ON AN APPLICATION BY DEN DANNY AND MADISON QUEENSBURY.THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FROM AGRICULTURAL GENERAL TO RESIDENTIAL RURAL.
UH, THIS IS TO CREATE A THREE LOT SUBDIVISION ON DAVIS.
UM, AS SHOWN ON THE MAP, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE, UH, OF THE COUNTY.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL GENERAL AS ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, THEIR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA, AS DOES THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL, THERE IS AN EXISTING DWELLING ON THE PROPERTY AND SEVERAL OUTBUILDINGS.
UM, I DO WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY CAUSE THAT WILL SHOW UP LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
UM, MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL AND LARGE LOT FARMING IN THE AREA ON DAVIS MILL ROAD.
SO, UM, THE PROPERTY HAS, UM, USED ALL THE PARENT TRACK SPLIT, SO THEY HAVE NO MORE BI-RITE SPLITS, WHICH IS WHY THEY ARE COMING BACK FOR A REZONING FROM AN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
SO THEY CAN FILE A SUBDIVISION APPLICATION.
UM, AT THEIR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN DECEMBER, THE, THE, UM, APPLICATION WAS RECOMMENDED WITH APPROVAL WITH THE FIBER VOTE.
THERE WAS ONE PERSON THAT SPOKE IN OPPOSITION AND LAST MONTH AT THE FEBRUARY BOARD MEETING, UM, THIS WAS VOTED ON A FIVE OF IT FOR DEFERRAL FOR ONE MONTH TO TWO TO TWO THIS EVENING.
UH, THERE WERE CONCERN WITH THE SUBDIVISION LAYOUT AND THE IMPACT OF THE DRIVEWAY ON ONE OF THE LOTS, UM, ONCE PER PERSON DID SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
SO IT CHANGES SINCE LAST MONTH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE, UM, THE, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION.
I DID JUST WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION.
UM, THE CONCERN WAS, UH, PRIMARILY THE ACCESS TO LOTS TWO AND THREE IN THE BACK AND HOW IT, UM, CROSSED OVER LOT TWO AS SHOWN ON THIS, UM, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE USABILITY OF THE OWNER OF LOT TWO OF THAT, UM, DRIVEWAY.
UH, SO THE APPLICANT HAS REDUCED THE NUMBER RECONFIGURED REDUCE THE OF LOTS FROM THREE TO FOUR AND ELIMINATED, UM, THE UNUSABLE DRIVEWAY, UM, CONCERNS THAT WERE WITH THE PREVIOUS CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO SUBDIVIDE THE 22.82 ACRE PARCEL INTO THREE LOTS.
UM, ONE LOT FOR THE EXISTING DWELLING.
THAT WOULD BE LOT TWO IN THE MIDDLE AND TWO NEW BUILDING, LOTS ON THE RR DISTRICT.
THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL RURAL DISTRICT DOES REQUIRE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF FIVE ACRES, UM, AS PRESENTED, THIS WOULD MEET THOSE QUALIFICATIONS.
UM, SO THEY ARE PROPOSING TWO DRIVEWAYS ONTO DAVIS MILL ROAD.
UM, THE ONE, UH, UH, TO THE EAST I POST, UM, WOULD BE, OH, I'M SORRY, THE WEST, THE WEST, SORRY, IS A SINGLE, UH, DRIVEWAY USED BY LOT ONE, UM, RIGHT HERE, UM, TO THE, UM, EAST, UM, IS THE ACCESS, WHICH IS A SHARED DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS USING THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY TO ACCESS BOTH LOTS, TWO AND THREE.
AND, UM, ALL THE DRIVEWAYS DO MEET A SPACING REQUIREMENTS.
SO THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BACK IN OCTOBER, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER, MR. MEYERS, AND TWO NEIGHBORS ATTENDED, UH, NEIGHBORS DID NOT EXPRESS ANY CONCERNS AT THAT TIME.
UM, WE DID RECEIVE ONE PHONE CALL EXPRESSING OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST DURING THIS PROCESS.
UH, THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE FIVE, UH, PROFFERS, UH, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, UH, CASH PROFFERS OF $12,039 FOR EACH OF THE TWO NEW LOTS, THE EXISTING LOT, UH, WITH THE DWELLING WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE CASH PROFFER, UH, NO ADDITIONAL SUBDIVISION.
SO THERE WOULD BE A MAXIMUM OF THREE AND ONLY THE TWO ACCESSES ACCESSES ONTO DAVIS MILL ROAD.
THEY'VE ALSO, UM, PROVIDE AT A PROFFER THAT WILL REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A 30 FOOT NATURAL BUFFER ON THE WESTERN PORTION RIGHT HERE ALONG.
UM, LOT ONE, I DO HAVE THE PROFFERS, UM, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME.
AND ALSO THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
[04:50:01]
OKAY.OR ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. SHERRY THIS LAST PLACE? OKAY.
SO MS. SHERRY, YOU SAID THAT YOU RECEIVED ONE COMMENT ABOUT THIS FROM A CITIZEN.
WHAT WAS THE, THE COMMENT HAD TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP THE AREA MORE RURAL AND THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT ANY EXTRA NOISE OR THERE WASN'T REALLY ANYTHING SPECIFIC.
IT WAS JUST A GENERAL QUESTION, A RESPONSE AS TO KEEPING THE AREA, UM, LESS DENSE, I SUPPOSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SURE? THANK YOU.
THE APPLICANT, LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SAY ANYTHING OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO, IF YOU DON'T WANT.
THEN I WILL OPEN IT UP THE PUBLIC, HEARING ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK AT US, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, WELL, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, BUT THEN I GOT A QUESTION ON THE TABLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE A CONDITIONAL USE.
W ONE, UM, WHERE I DID THAT ONE, I MOVED THAT WE APPROVED THE REZONING, OUR Z 2 0 2 1 0 0 0 1 1 FOR 22.8, TWO ACRES AT 303 6 DAVIS MILL ROAD FROM AGRICULTURAL, GENERALLY ONE TO RESIDENTIAL, RURAL, OR, OR WITH PROPERTY CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
THANK YOU, MS. LAST QUESTION, MR. HOPKINS.
UM, I DID HAVE A QUESTION SHARE.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. SHARP? THIS IS YOUR BIRTHDAY PLUS ONE.
UM, JUST I'M THE BUFFER THERE'S THERE'S TREES CURRENTLY IN THAT AREA NOW.
SO WE'RE SAYING THERE IS, I WOULD LIKE US TO START USING THEM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUFFERS, BECAUSE OF SEEMS THAT CERTAIN GROUPS THAT, UH, BUILD IN OUR COUNTY THINK BUFFER MEANS YOU CAN'T BUILD WITHIN THAT DISTANCE OF 30 FEET.
AND IF IT'S, AND SO THEY CUT DOWN TREES, BUT WE DIDN'T ENCROACH ON THE BUFFER.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US START SAYING A 30 FOOT TREE BUFFER, NOTHING TO THE APPLICANTS THIS EVENING, JUST ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT BUFFERS AND THERE'S TREES.
WE SAY A 30, 50, A HUNDRED FOOT TREED BUFFER.
UM, I DID, I ONLY GAVE YOU A, UM, A HIGH LEVEL OF THE BUFFER.
THERE IS THE BUFFER ON THE SCREEN.
IT SAYS A 30 FOOT, 30 FOOT BUFFER, A NATURAL BUFFER WHERE ON THE WESTERN LINE.
AND THEN IT CONTINUES TO SAY, AH, NO EXISTING TREES REMOVED AND LESS DEAD OR DISEASED.
SO, I MEAN, AND THIS IS A PROPER, THIS CAME FROM THE APPLICANT.
SO UNDERSTOOD LOUD AND CLEAR CROSS THE VAST REACHES OF THE COUNTY.
UM, MS. SHERRY, AM I CORRECT THAT THE APPLICANT LIVES IN ONE OF THESE, ON THIS PROPERTY? YES.
THEY CURRENTLY LIVE ON LOT TWO.
THEY LIVE IN THE EXISTING HOUSE.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE DRIVEWAYS, WHEN ONE IS EXISTING, UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THEY'RE CREATING, BUT BOTH OF THEM MEET OUR STANDARDS.
MA'AM SO NOT A PROBLEM WITH EITHER ONE OF THEM.
SO, AND THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THE, UH, EXITS ONTO DAVIS MILL ROAD.
SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT ANOTHER ISSUE.
CERTAINLY JUST AS LONG AS THE SHARING THAT I'M JUST GOING TO FOLLOW UP, MS. LESKO, YOU SAID MEET OUR STANDARDS, BUT THAT WAS PART OF THE WHOLE, THE REASON WE WERE GOING THROUGH THESE MACHINATIONS WAS TO TRY TO NOT HAVE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS TO THE ROADWAY.
SO WHAT ARE THOSE STANDARDS THAT MS. LASTPASS HAD TO MEET OUR STANDARDS? WHAT ARE OUR STANDARDS FOR DRIVEWAYS? SO, UM, THERE ARE SPACING REQUIREMENTS AS PART OF OUR, UM, AS PART OF OUR ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND THEIR DRIVEWAY SPACES.
AND THEY'RE BASED ON LIKE THE, THE LEVEL OF ROAD, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT IS ON THE ROAD.
AND SO WHEN THE, UM, APPLICANT TURNED IN THE, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLAN, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL LIKE MARKINGS ON THERE.
SO WE ACTUALLY MEASURED AND HAD THEM PUT THAT ON THE, UM, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, JUST SO THAT WE CAN DETERMINE THAT THEY WERE, UM, IN FACT, MEETING OUR SPACING REQUIREMENTS, I CAN LOOK IT UP IN THIS ANIMAL.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ENTRANCE, THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE ONTO, ONTO THIS CASE.
THERE'S NO STANDARDS IN TERMS. IT'S A QUESTION, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY STANDARDS IN TERMS OF THE PAVEMENT AND THE WIDTH AND ALL THAT, ALL THIS STUFF.
THESE ARE JUST, OKAY, THANK YOU, SHERRY.
[04:55:01]
WAITING.AND THIS, THIS ACTUALLY MIGHT BE, UM, A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
I WAS OUT THERE SUNDAY LOOKING TO SEE, YOU KNOW, CAUSE WE DID HAVE SOME FOLKS CONCERNED ABOUT NOISE AND I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE I DON'T HAVE A POINTER, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE FROM LOT ONE ROAD CONSTRUCTED.
SO LIKE RIGHT HERE, COME DOWN THAT, YEAH, THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO LIKE THE AREA? THAT'D BE A LOT EASIER.
YOU DON'T MIND INTRODUCE YOURSELF, DANNY AT ALL.
DANNY QUEENSBURY AT 30, 36 DAYS.
AND THIS IS THE POINT OR IF YOU NEED TO USE THAT, SO WE'RE YOU SEE? OH, I'M SORRY.
YOU JUST LITERALLY TOLD ME TO USE THE POINTER.
SO WHAT'S YOUR, I'M GOING SAY, MAN, THINKING THAT YOU'RE THINKING THIS, I MEAN, THAT'S THE, YEAH.
AND I THINK YOU'RE STILL TOO FAR OVER.
SO THIS WOULD BE, THIS IS AN OLD, VERY BAD FLOOD.
THE POWER LINE COMES THROUGH HERE.
OH, SO THIS IS LOT ONE OVER HERE.
ONE, TWO, WHICH IS MY HOUSE WOULD BE COMING ALONG THIS LINE AND COMING BACK OVER TO ABOUT APPROXIMATELY RIGHT HERE.
SO A LOT YOU LIKE TO SAY, IT'D BE RIGHT IN HERE.
AND THEN THE, SHOULD IT BE A LOT THREE STARS ROUGHLY RIGHT ABOUT HERE.
SAY THE DRUNK BOY THAT YOU'RE SEEING CURRENTLY HERE, ALL, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HAD SEEN ON THE OTHER ONE? THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY ON LOT ONE.
THAT'S ON LOT TWO COMING AND I GOING UP HERE A LOT, ONE WOULD BE ROUGHLY RIGHT AROUND.
SO, SO W THIS LOOKS LIKE A BRAND NEW ROAD WHERE THAT'S JUST WHERE I PUT SOME DIRT OVER.
SO THIS IS OLD ON LOT TWO ON MONDAY.
NONE OF THAT IS ACTUALLY ON LONG ONE.
BUT THAT THIS COMES OUT TO DAVIS MILL ROAD, CORRECT.
SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT, THIS IS THE DRAWING WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S ACTUALLY ANOTHER ENTRANCE HERE AND HERE CURRENTLY.
WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS US, LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, WHAT THE DIRT AND EVERYTHING IS RIGHT HERE.
IF YOU LOOK DOWN THROUGH LIKE WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE LIKE WEIRD TREE AREA.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH THIS CLEAR TREE AREA, NOT TO YOUR PICTURE, BUT IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE AREAS, THIS IS LOT ONE RIGHT IN HERE.
THIS IS WHERE, OH, I GOT DOMINION EVENTUALLY YEARS AGO THERE AT GRAND POWER THROUGH THAT.
SO THAT'S A CLEAR FOR DOMINION, BUT THAT IS ALSO WHERE THE ROAD WILL COME INTO LOT ONE AS THREE OF THIS AREA HERE.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN YOUR PICTURE IS ALL ON LOCKDOWN.
COULD YOU GET TO THE POINT ON THE BACK OF WHERE, WHERE, WHERE THAT, THAT HE SHOWED YOU ON HIS PHONE? A PICTURE? HE'S SAYING WHAT HE'S SAYING, THE ACTUAL, RIGHT.
SO HE'S LOOKING RIGHT THERE WHERE WE CAN SEE EXACTLY.
SO WHAT I WAS VERY ACTUALLY IMPRESSED WITH WAS THE AMOUNT OF TREES THAT WERE ON DAVIS MILL AND OUR PROPERTY IS COMPLETE, ACTUALLY GOT INTO THE PROPERTY TO ACTUALLY, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, DO YOU PLAN ON KEEPING IT, I DON'T PLAN TO TAKE ANY OF THOSE TREES DOWN.
SO LIKE LOT YOU OBVIOUSLY, I'M NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING WELL, IT'S CAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A HOUSE THERE.
OH, LOT, THREE OVER TO THE RIGHT.
YOU'RE GOING ALL THE WAY BACK IN BEFORE.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE A NORMAL HOUSE CLEARING SIDE.
IT'LL BE JUST ENOUGH FOR THE HOUSE AND FOR THE DRAIN FIELD.
IF YOU KNOW THAT PARTICULAR CUSTOMER WANTS A LITTLE BIT MORE YARD, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A FIVE ACRE CLEARING SITE FOR ONE, NO NORMAL CUSTOMER IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT.
WHAT, WHAT CLAREN COSTS ON THE LEFT SIDE WITH FLOP WINE? OH, THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING WE HAD PUT IN THERE.
YOU KNOW, MR. WRIGHT'S LIVED THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
HE JUST SIMPLY DOESN'T WANT TO IMMEDIATE ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE A NEIGHBOR THAT HE CAN WALK OUT ON HIS PORCH AND SEE.
SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT 30 FOOT BUFFER ON THAT SIDE, IT WAS JUST SIMPLY, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING MISSED IT RIGHT.
AND I DID SPEAK TO MS. WHITE, WHO IS PULLING OUT IN HER HOT MUSTANG, GOING TO CHURCH.
SHE WAS IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
SO SHE'S YEAH, I'M FIVE, NINE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMES FOR THE ETHNIC.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.
I'LL ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
[05:00:01]
THANK YOU.AND WE ARE ON OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING.
[6. 5285: District 3 - CU-2021-00013 Application by Daniel and Tamara Keeton]
TO LAST, THE NEXT TO LAST ON THE LAST WEEK BEFORE YOU START, I'M GOING TO DECLARE A CONFLICT IN THIS ONE AND I'M GOING TO THE BATCAVE.UM, OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS AN APPLICATION BY DANIEL AND TAMERA KEATON.
IT'S A REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT SHORT-TERM RENTAL ON HOSTED ON FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED AS ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY AS SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL LOW, UM, ACROSS THE STREET.
THAT IS REYNOLDS COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
AND FROM THE AREA YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A SERIES OF SINGLE-FAMILY HOUSES ALONG FAIRGROUNDS ROAD WITH THE COLLEGE BEING DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET.
SO, UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE PROPOSAL IS FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, WHICH IS THE REASON FOR THE CEP.
UM, THE APPLICANT DOES NOT LIVE ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL IS, UM, UH, IS SHORT TERM RENTAL AND HOSTED IS, UM, A DWELLING WHERE A PORTION OR ENTIRE PART ON THE ENTIRE DWELLING IS USED FOR SLEEPING PEOPLE PAY FOR THIS.
UM, IT HAS TO BE LESS THAN, UH, 30 DAYS CONSECUTIVE DAYS, AND THE RENTERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN MEALS.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE HOUSE.
IT IS, UM, A LITTLE OVER 1100 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE CONDITION, AS WELL AS THE SEPTIC, UM, LIMITS THE NUMBER OF GUESTS TO SIX, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BACK IN NOVEMBER.
ONE PERSON FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS IN ATTENDANCE AND EXPRESS SUPPORT AT THE FEBRUARY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A FIVE ZERO VOTE, AND NOBODY SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, A MAJORITY OF THESE ARE STANDARD CONDITIONS.
I WILL GO THROUGH THEM RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
UM, SO THE, UM, USE IS FOR A HOSTED, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
UH, THEN OVERNIGHT MAXIMUM GUESTS WOULD BE SIX UNLESS THEY WERE TO INCREASE THE SEPTIC CAPACITY.
AND AT NO TIME ARE THEY ALLOWED TO GO OVER 10 CARBON MONOXIDE DETECTOR AND SMOKE DETECTOR MUST BE, UM, MAINTAINED AND, UM, INSTALLED.
UM, THEY NEED TO HAVE YOUR TYPICAL, UM, OUTDOORS, UM, MUSIC ENDING AT 10 AND IT CAN'T BE AMPLIFIED.
NO TRESPASSING SIGNS NEED TO BE POSTED, UM, NEEDS TO MAINTAIN THE RENTAL APPEARANCE, NO HUNTING OR FIREARMS. UM, ALL APPLICANTS MUST BE GIVEN NOTICE OF ALL THESE CONDITIONS.
THIS IS A FIVE YEAR, UM, EXPLORATION.
UM, MARCH 20, 27 IS WHEN IT WOULD BE DUE FOR A RENEWAL.
AND LASTLY, THE STANDARD TRANSPORT OR LEASE CONDITION, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. SHERRY? SEE NONE WITH THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD.
HEY, MY NAME'S DANIEL KEATON AT 3 1 1 2 WALNUT RIDGE LANE.
UH, THANK YOU, MS. SHERRY FOR ALL YOUR WORK AND THE PRESENTATION.
I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO ADD.
UM, JUST THAT IT'S GOING TO BE, OR A PLAN IS TO BE A SHORT TERM RENTAL THROUGH LIKE AIRBNB, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THE DEMAND I BELIEVE IS FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE IN BETWEEN HOME SALES.
LIKE THAT'S KIND OF THE MAIN THING THEY NEED MAYBE TWO WEEKS TO STAY THEIR ALTERNATIVE AS A EXTENDED STAY HOTEL, YOU KNOW, IN SHORT PUMP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MARKET THAT WE'RE GOING FOR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. KEATON, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT, THANKS.
I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO YOU KNOW WHAT CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. SHERRY.
UM, THIS IS CURRENTLY BEING USED AS A LONG-TERM RENTAL.
THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED.
AND DOES THIS, BECAUSE IT'S A 30 DAYS MAXIMUM, DOES THAT NEGATE THEIR ABILITY TO USE IT AS LONG-TERM RENTAL? NO.
I MEAN, THEY'RE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
[05:05:01]
TO HAVE, UM, A LEASED AND HAVE A GIRL AS LONG AS IT WAS ONCE OVER 30 DAYS.IT'S JUST LIMITED WHEN IT'S, UM, LESS THAN 30 CONSECUTIVE DAYS FOR, I MEAN, WITHIN JUST A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? HOW WOULD WE MONITOR? SO HOW DO WE KNOW IS I MOVE MY HOUSE? ISN'T READY THEN I DECIDED TO STAY 30 DAYS.
HOW DO WE KNOW, HOW DO WE KNOW IF THEY STAY LONGER THAN 30 DAYS, MORE THAN LIKELY? UM, IT WOULD BE COMPLAINT BASED TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE ACTUALLY GO OUT AND MONITOR.
UM, SOMETIMES WE DO GO ON THE, UM, AIRBNB AND BRBO SITES, BUT THAT WOULD BE, THEY WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THEIR, OF THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT THAT POINT.
MY, MY CONCERN IS THAT WE'RE LIKE, BECAUSE WE'VE PUT IN HERE THAT IT'S A MAXIMUM OF 30 DAYS, WE WERE POTENTIALLY NEGATING THEIR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
NO, I MEAN, EVERY PROPERTY OWNER HAS THE RIGHT TO RENT THEIR HOUSE.
YOU DO RIGHT NOW, MS. LES, GLAD I DO THAT.
THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO RENT OUT YOUR ENTIRE HOUSE AND THERE'S NO LIMIT ON THAT.
BUT IF YOU START RENTING YOUR HOUSE FOR 30 DAYS OR LESS, THAT'S WHERE THIS KICKS IN.
SO THIS ONLY APPLIES IN THE, IN THE RAIL, IN, IN, UH, IN YOUR OWNERSHIP OF YOUR HOUSE, YOU CAN RENT IT OUT FOR 30 DAYS FOR MORE THAN 30 DAYS.
BUT IF YOU START RENTING IT OUT FOR SHORTER THAN 30 DAYS, YOU NEED THIS PERMISSION AND YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THESE RULES.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
I WOULD MOVE THAT THE BOARD GRANT BOARD GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT C 2021 DASH 0 0 0 1 3 4 AND HOSTED SHORT-TERM RENTAL AT 26 36 FAIRGROUND ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
MISS LAST CLIP AND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BOARD, WE'LL CALL THEM.
[7. 5292: District 3 - CU-2018-00010A Application by Eric Cioffi and Liza Fierro-]
PRESSURE'S ON, I SAID EIGHT 15.ALL RIGHT, MS. SHERRY, GO AHEAD.
OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING IS AN APPLICATION BY ERIC AND LYSA TROPHY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO AMEND AN EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THEY HAVE FOR A MICROBREWERY AND DISTILLERY UNDER 50 ACRES.
AS WELL AS TO ADD THE RESTAURANT USE, EXPAND THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND REQUEST A WAIVER OF THE, UH, REQUIRED PAVING OF THE PARKING AND DRIVE ISLES.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST OUTSIDE OF THE COURTHOUSE ON MAIDENS ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED AS ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
IT IS DESIGNATED AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AS ARE THE PROPERTIES ON THE EAST SIDE OF, UM, MAIDENS ROAD.
AND ON THE WEST SIDE THAT SINGLE FAMILY, LOW DENSITY.
THIS IS THE AREA OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, SURROUNDED MOSTLY BY, UM, LARGER LOTS THAT ARE PRIMARILY VACANT.
SO JUST A LITTLE TIMELINE PRIOR TO 2014, THIS WAS A RESIDENTIAL ONLY USE BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 2014 AND 16.
THE APPLICANT ESTABLISHED A, UM, A CIDERY IT'S REFERRED TO AS WINERY IN THE CODE, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES CIDERIES, UM, OPERATION THAT'S WHEN THEY STARTED IT UP, UM, IN 2017 COURTHOUSE CREEK CIDER OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND 2018, UH, THEY CAME BACK TO THE BOARD AND REQUESTED A CUP FOR A, MY GROUP BREWERY AND DISTILLERY BECAUSE IT IS LESS THAN 50 ACRES, UH, PER THE CODE.
AND, UM, TODAY THEY ARE ADDING OTHER REQUESTS FOR THE RESTAURANT USE.
AS I'D MENTIONED, THERE IS A RESIDENCE.
UM, THERE ARE ORCHARDS THAT WERE ESTABLISHED AS WELL AS THE, UH, FARM WINERY IMPROVELY IN BREWERY.
UM, THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE THE HOUSE, UH, PRODUCTION BARN, AS WELL AS A TASTING ROOM.
HERE ARE SOME, UH, PICTURES OF THE, UM, CIDERY AS IT IS NOW.
UM, THEY HAVE SOME OUTDOOR SEATING AND, UM, SOME INDOOR THAT'S A PICTURE OF THE TASTING ROOM AS WELL AS SOME OF THE, THE ORCHARD.
UM, SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ADD A 324 SQUARE FOOT FREESTANDING COMMERCIAL KITCHEN.
THE KITCHEN WILL ALLOW THEM TO HAVE FACILITIES TO OPERATE
[05:10:01]
AS A RESTAURANT, AND A RESTAURANT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.THAT JUST WHY THEY'RE HERE TODAY.
THERE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS PROVIDED IN A FLOOR PLAN PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, IN ADDITION, THEY ARE REQUESTING, UM, PAVING WAIVER FOR THE PARKING AND DRIVE ISLES.
UM, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE, UM, THE EXISTING, UH, AGRICULTURAL AGRIBUSINESS THAT'S THERE CURRENTLY.
UH, THE REASON FOR THEM NEEDING TO ASK THIS WAIVER, I KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT WITH THE PREVIOUS WITTEN CASE IS THAT THEY HAVE MORE THAN 25 SPACES.
SO, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAVE THE PARKING AND PAY AND DRIVE AISLE WITHOUT THIS, UM, WAIVER BEING GRANTED.
UM, THEY ARE ALSO, UM, EX UM, REQUEST TO EXPAND THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION BY ONE HOUR ON SUNDAY.
THEY CURRENTLY OPEN AT NOON AND THEY ARE REQUESTING TO OPEN AT 11:00 AM.
HERE IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UM, PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THE RED SQUARE IS WHERE THE NEW BUILDING WILL GO.
UM, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO TELL ON THIS PICTURE, BUT IT WOULD BE DETACHED FROM THE ACTUAL BUILDING ITSELF.
THE, UM, UH, THE CIDERY FACILITIES WERE, UM, ACTUALLY BILLED, UM, AS AN AGRICULTURAL BUSINESS.
AND SO WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING THIS COMMERCIAL, UM, BUILDING, THEY NEED TO GO THROUGH, UM, BUILDING PERMIT.
SO SEPARATING THEM IS, MAKES IT MUCH EASIER.
UM, SO PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THE FREESTANDING COMMERCIAL KITCHEN, UM, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO UPGRADE THE SEPTIC SYSTEM AND PROVIDE, UM, A 20 FOOT MINIMUM DRIVE ISLE, SIMILAR TO HOW I MENTIONED, UM, ON THE WHITTEN CASE, BEING ABLE TO ACCESS EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD IN DECEMBER.
UH, NO CITIZENS ATTENDED, UM, AT, IN FEBRUARY, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION ON A FIVE VOTE, UH, FOR APPROVAL.
AND, UM, NOBODY SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THE AMENDED, UH, CONDITIONS THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY, UM, UH, UM, BROUGHT THEM UP TO DATE WITH OUR CURRENT STANDARDS.
UM, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE QUICKLY AND JUST TOUCH BASE WHERE, UM, THINGS HAVE ACTUALLY, UM, CHANGED AS OPPOSED TO THAT THE STANDARD CONDITIONS THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE.
SO THEY ARE ADDING, UM, RESTAURANT TO THE USE.
UM, I HAD MENTIONED THEY NEED TO GET A POD.
UH, NUMBER THREE WOULD, UM, GRANT THEM THE PARKING WAIVER THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
UM, NUMBER FOUR WOULD ADD AN HOUR EARLIER ON SUNDAY.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THEIR STANDARD MUSIC FIREWORKS AND, UH, ACCESS REQUIRED BY, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, THE CONDITIONAL, UM, I MEAN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN SIGNS, DUMPSTERS AND LIGHTING ALSO ARE ALL SIMILAR TO THEIR STANDARD CONDITIONS.
UH, THE EXPIRATION, THIS DOES HAVE A FIVE-YEAR EXPIRATION, WHICH WOULD PUT THEM TO 20, 20 17 FOR, TO COME BACK FOR RENEWAL.
AND LASTLY, UM, ARE TRANSFER EARLY STANDARD CONDITION.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PORTION OF THIS AND BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
AND MR. TROPHY IS HERE AS WELL.
THANK YOU, MS. SHERRY, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. SHERRY BEFORE WE CALL IT THE UPPERCUT IT'S PETERSON, COULD YOU GO BACK TO HOURS ABOUT, CERTAINLY I SAW THAT I WAS ABOUT TO PROBABLY MENTION THAT I WAS HOPING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD SAY BESIDES ME REALLY FAST AND YOU ALMOST GOT IT FIT.
AND I SUSPECT THAT IT READS THE SAME IN THE RESOLUTION TARA, BECAUSE, UM, I, AND OUR EARLIER FROM 12:00 PM, WHICH IS NOON TO 11, IT GOES TO AM.
YEAH, IT'S A LITTLE MORE THAN AN HOUR.
THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE THAN AN HOUR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
UM, MS. IF YOU GO TO THE FIRST CONDITION, UH, USE BREWERY DISTILLERY AND RESTAURANT, IT DOESN'T MENTION CIDERY, UM, THE CIDERY IS ALLOWED BY, RIGHT? OKAY.
COULD BE THE, THOSE OTHER TWO WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
IF THEY WERE OVER 50 ACRES, BUT THE WAY THE, UM, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE READS IS THAT THOSE HAD TO COME IN FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, OTHER QUESTIONS FROM SURE.
WOULD THE APPLICANT, LIKE, JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND ERIC TROPHY, 1581 MAIDENS ROAD, COURTHOUSE CREEK CIDER.
I'M REALLY JUST HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF THERE ARE ANY GREAT, THANK YOU.
I THINK THEY GET THE PERSISTENCY AWARD
[05:15:02]
FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S, THEY'VE GONE THROUGH WITH THIS AND, UH, SO IT'S KIND OF, WE'RE GLAD YOU DIDN'T GIVE UP.YEAH, WELL, WE'LL SEE, I'M STARTING TO GET THE ESTIMATES FOR SEPTIC, SO IT'S OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AT THIS POINT, SO WE'LL SEE.
UM, BUT AT LEAST THIS STEP IS COMPLETED, HOPEFULLY.
THERE'S THE CARING STAFF HELPFUL, VERY EXTREMELY HELPFUL.
UH, IT'S IT'S UM, HONESTLY, UH, THE COUNTY HAS ALWAYS BEEN FANTASTIC, SUPER SUPPORTIVE, SAME WITH THE COMMUNITY, UM, FROM THE GET GO.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, SORRY, RSU LIVES AT A STATE LEVEL AND HOPEFULLY SOMEDAY THE REGULATIONS WILL CHANGE.
JONATHAN LAO, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD, UM, MANAGING DIRECTOR OF HIGHWAY INFORMATION MEDIA, WHICH IS A TOURISM PARTNER WITH THE DON AND, UH, VIRGINIA TOURISM PRE PANDEMIC.
UM, I HOPE YOU DO APPROVE THIS AND, UH, THE APPLICANT'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE BURDEN OF REGULATION PUT UPON THEM.
UM, AS I WAS READING THE APPLICATION, THIS'LL BE A HUNDRED PEOPLE AND FOUR EMPLOYEES THAT IS, UH, REQUIRING A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS INVESTMENT.
UH, I KNOW WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY PROCESS THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF FINANCING OR LENDING THAT CAN BE PURSUED THERE.
I KNOW VIRGINIA TOURISM DOES HAVE VARIOUS GRANTS AND, UH, NO LOAN PROGRAM THAT I'M AWARE OF AVAILABLE, BUT, UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO SEE SMALL AND I GUESS WE'LL USE THAT TERM SMALL BUSINESS SUCCEED, UH, THE, THE HONEST OF GOVERNMENT REGULATION THAT BECOMES SOMEWHAT DEBILITATING.
IT JUST KEEPS PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO DO BUSINESS.
SO I APPRECIATE ANTICIPATING THAT YOU WILL APPROVE THEIR REQUEST, BUT IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL RESOURCES AVAILABLE THAT WOULD LET THEM SUCCEED AT SURE.
ENCOURAGE THEM TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNTY.
AND AGAIN, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY HAS ANY RESOURCES AVAILABLE, UM, IN MY WORLD, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING.
SO I DO HOPE YOU WILL VOTE TO APPROVE AT LEAST THE PAPERWORK PART OF IT.
AND, UH, I HEARD TODAY THAT IF WE GO OUT AND EXERCISE FOR 10 MINUTES A DAY, THAT REALLY IMPROVES OUR HEALTH.
SO MAYBE WE CAN ALL GO OUT WITH THE EXCAVATION OR SOMETHING.
ANYBODY ELSE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING MR. CHAIRMAN? I MOVED AT THE KENT GIBSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, CU DASH 2018 DASH 3 0 10 A TO ADD A RESTAURANT YOU USE AT 1581 MAIDENS ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED SECOND.
WE HAVE, UM, ANY DISCUSSION MS. SHERRY? I HAVE A QUESTION SINCE THEY'RE COMING BACK BEFORE THEIR FIVE-YEAR WITH THEIR CURRENT FIVE-YEAR CUP EXPIRES, MS. MCGEE WOULD, WOULD YOU KNOW, OH, OKAY.
I'LL PHRASE IT AS A STATEMENT.
UM, SO THIS WOULD TRUMP THAT CUP CORRECTLY.
AND THE RESOLUTION, IT SPECIFICALLY SAYS THAT THESE CONDITIONS SUPERSEDE THE CONDITIONS THAT ALREADY EXIST AND THAT ALL CONDITIONS ARE IN THIS DOCUMENT.
SO NOW IT GOES TO MARCH OF 2027, UH, WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS TYPICALLY, I BELIEVE IT'S THIS, OUR POLICY THAT IF SOMEBODY COMES BACK FOR THEIR SECOND ON A FIVE-YEAR, WE TYPICALLY TAKE IT TO A 10 YEAR, OR WE CAN HAVE THAT OPTION TYPICALLY IF THERE'S NO CONCERNS.
SO MY QUESTION WOULD BE WITH THE APPLICANT AND WHAT TO ASK FOR THAT SO THAT THEY CAN, IF THIS BOARD WOULD BE AMENABLE TO IT.
SO WE'RE NOT SHORTCHANGING, NONE OF THAT EXTRA TIME THAT I THINK WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
AND THEN THAT WOULD BE AT THE BOARD'S DISCRETION.
W WHAT ARE, WHAT, UH, EXPRESSION TIME ARE YOU PROPOSING THEN? SO MAKE IT 10 YEARS FROM NOW.
SO WOULD THE, WOULD YOU EXPECT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? WELL, LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
HE'S HE'S HE'S NODDING HIS HEAD.
OH, I'LL ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
WHAT'S THE DATE GOING TO BE 20, 27.
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THE OLD MATH.AND DO YOU ACCEPT THAT? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ROLL CALL VOTE? YES.
NOW, EVERYBODY KEEPING STRAIGHT.
WE ARE DONE NOW AS IF THAT'S THE LAST ONE.
LISA, ARE YOU GOOD? ALL RIGHT.
SO THE BOARD WILL ADJOURN AS FOLLOWING.
WE HAVE A TUESDAY, MARCH 8TH, 9:00 AM WORK SESSION WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
[XVI. Adjournment: The Board of Supervisors will adjourn as follows:]
ON TUESDAY, MARCH 8TH, AT 2:00 PM.WE KIND OF ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND THURSDAY ON MARCH 10TH.
WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, AND THE F ON THE 15TH, WE ALSO WILL HAVE ANOTHER WORK SESSION.
UH, AND THESE MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ONE MEETING A MONTH.