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          ALL RIGHT, WE READY DOWN HERE. 
          WE'RE ALL SET ON THIS. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING. 
          [V. 6:00 PM - Chair Calls Meeting Back to Order]
WE WILL RECONVENE FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          UH, BUT FIRST WE'LL START WITH OUR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. 
          THIS IS FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO COME AND SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES ON ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING, THAT PERTAINS TO GOODSON COUNTY. 
          PLEASE JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOU CAN WATCH THE, FOR THE LIGHTS, IF YOU COULD. 
          JUST, IF THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON ON THE BASE THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M GOOD AT PUSHING BUTTONS. 
          UH, MICHAEL MCDERMOTT, 1879 SPRUCE LANE, MAIDENS, VIRGINIA, HONORABLE CHAIR, SPOON HOUR, A HONORABLE INTERIM COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ALVAREZ, FELLOW SUPERVISORS, COUNTY STAFF, CITIZENS, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS. 
          UH, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AGAIN TO AFFIRM THE LEADERSHIP IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY FOR PROVIDING SUCH A GOOD VISION AND PATH FORWARD, UH, THAT MAKES GOOCHLAND THE KIND OF PLACE THAT'S ATTRACTIVE. 
          UH, NOT ONLY TO KEEP PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE, BUT TO, TO, TO, TO BRING NEW PEOPLE IN AS GOOCHLAND CONTINUES TO GROW GRACEFULLY. 
          I ALSO, UH, WANT TO BRING SOMETHING UP. 
          I MENTIONED LAST MONTH ABOUT THE ABILITY TO DO THIS ON ZOOM, AND I STILL DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO OFFER THAT OPTION TO PEOPLE. 
          UH, RESPECTIVE OF COVID GOOCHLAND HAS ALWAYS BEEN, YOU KNOW, ON THE TECHNOLOGICAL FOREFRONT, CUTTING EDGE OF, OF PROVIDING SERVICES, UH, TO, TO NOT ONLY TO BE USED INTERNALLY, BUT TO ITS RESIDENCES. 
          AND, AND TO THAT POINT, I WANT TO AFFIRM THE COUNTY FOR THE TRANSPARENCY THAT'S AVAILABLE ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE. 
          YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER QUITE A FEW YEARS BACK, UH, THERE WERE SOME ISSUES OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND YOU KNOW, NOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AS CITIZENS, SEE WHERE OUR MONEY'S BEING SPENT. 
          SEE WHAT'S HAPPENED AT MEETINGS, LOOK AT MINUTES, LOOK AT THE GIS SYSTEM. 
          THERE'S A WEALTH OF INFORMATION OUT THERE FOR ALL OF US TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, TO BE, YOU KNOW, UH, BETTER CITIZENS, BETTER STEWARDS OF THE COMMUNITY AND A BETTER WATCHDOGS AS WELL. 
          SO AGAIN, I WANT TO, I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE HERE BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S NOT JUST THE PEOPLE THAT I'M LOOKING AT. 
          I KNOW ALL THOSE DAGGERS BEHIND ME, UH, MOST OF THEM FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT GOOCHLAND AND HOW IT'S RUN. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, MAYBE WE CAN WORK ON THAT ZOOM THING FOR THE MEETINGS, BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY HERE IN A LEADERSHIP POSITION FOR YOUR CONTINUED STEWARDSHIP OF THIS FINE COMMUNITY AS GOOCHLAND CONTINUES TO GROW GRACEFULLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. INTERPRETER, ANYONE ELSE? THERE'S A BUTTON DOWN HERE THAT YOU TURNED IT BACK ONE MORE TIME. 
          LOOK AT ME FAST FINGERS. 
          UH, NO, YOU KNOW, UH, JOHN  1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD, UH, DIRECTOR FROM MONICA AND SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, AND ALSO ONE OF THE GOOSE AND THE FARM BUREAU DIRECTORS. 
          AND I WANT TO JUST COME AND REAFFIRM THE APPRECIATION THAT THE AG COMMUNITY HAS FOR THE SUPPORT AND THE CONTINUED INTEREST THAT THE BOARD HAS SHOWN. 
          AND, UH, KEEPING GOOCHLAND RURAL, UH, HAS BEEN FOND OF SAYING, UH, I CAME FROM A AREA MEETING OF CONSERVATION DISTRICTS EARLIER TODAY AND THE BUDGET IS NOT COMPLETED DOWN AT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, BUT ALL OF THE TEA LEAVES INDICATE THAT THERE WILL BE, UH, INCREASED FUNDING FOR CONSERVATION EFFORTS THROUGH THE MONICA DISTRICT. 
          UH, MANY OF THE POSITIONS THAT THE FARM BUREAU ADVOCATED FOR DURING THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY SESSION HAVE BEEN APPROVED OR ENACTED. 
          SO THE REQUEST IS GOING TO BE COMING FROM MONICA TO 
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COLLABORATE, CONTINUED COLLABORATION WITH THE COUNTY STAFF AND WITH, UH, THE FOLKS THAT ALSO SHARE AN INTEREST IN THE AG COMMUNITY PROSPERING AND HAVING A CONTINUITY HERE. 
          UH, PART OF THE ATTRACTION OF GOOCHLAND IS THAT IT DOES HAVE OPEN SPACE AND A RURAL CHARACTER AND MR. LUMPKIN. 
          SO I'M STILL NOT SURE I CAN DEFINE RURAL TO YOUR SATISFACTION, BUT I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD ANYWAY, THAT THE RURAL CHARACTER THAT EXISTS HERE IN THE COUNTY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY. 
          THANK YOU FOR HAVING AN OPEN DOOR. 
          UM, MR. ALVAREZ STILL TAKES MY PHONE CALLS WHEN I CALL AND IS WILLING TO DISCUSS AGRICULTURAL, UH, UH, ISSUES. 
          AND, UH, I'LL SIT DOWN BEFORE THE LIGHT GOES OFF. 
          HOW'S THAT MS. BEST GUY, ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK, SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMING HERE. 
          [VII. Public Hearings, Board Meeting Room 250]
I WAS GOING TO MAKE A JOKE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SWITCH THE ORDER AROUND, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD GO OVER VERY WELL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, 25 35 OF THE REZONING APPLICATION DISTRICT FOR, UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          AND THERE WAS A BOARD, I AM RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          [1. 5235: District 4 - RZ-2021-00010 Application by Markel - Eagle Advisors, LLC]
UH, THIS ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WAS ACTUALLY HEARD, UM, IN FEBRUARY, IT WAS, UH, DEFERRED UP TO THIS MEETING, UM, THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION AGAIN, UM, THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR REZONING FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED AID TO, TO, UM, RPD RESIDENTIAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH PROPER CONDITIONS. 
          UM, IT IS CURRENTLY IT'S ABOUT 72.988 ACRES, AND THE LAND USES RESIDENTIAL. 
          THAT'S LOCATED IN THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY, UM, NEAR TO 2 88 AND BROAD STREET ROAD. 
          UH, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY, AS WE SAID, ZONED DAY TO, UH, TO THE NORTH IS ALSO A, THERE'S ALSO RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS OF RN AND RPD WITH  LOCATED TO THE SOUTH. 
          UH, THIS AREA DOES CALL FOR SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL, AND THIS IS LOCATED IN OUR, UM, OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA, UH, ARIEL, UH, SHE HAS, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND, UH, I'LL WALK THROUGH THESE NEXT COUPLE OF MAPS. 
          I'M REALLY TO GO THROUGH THE CASE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ROAD DESIGNS FOR THIS AREA. 
          UM, THIS IS AN OVERLAY SHOWING YOU GENERALLY WHAT THE, UH, PERSPECTIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE, UM, RELATED ON THE AERIAL MAP. 
          UM, LET ME BACK UP REAL QUICK. 
          THERE ARE, AGAIN, THERE'S LITTLE RED TRIANGLES THAT STICK OUT THE SIDE OF THE MAP OR PORTIONS OF THE EXISTING, UH, UH, READER'S BRANCH 70, AND THAT'S BEING ADDED INTO THIS CASE. 
          SO AGAIN, A REASONING FROM 82 TO RPU D UH, DOES INCLUDE THE PORTION OF THE RADIUS BRANDS SENDING. 
          AND LIKE I MENTIONED, UPPERS, UM, PROFFERS HAVE BEEN UPDATED. 
          WE RECEIVED UPDATED PROFFERS THIS MORNING AND THEY HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE BOARD, UM, THAT FURTHER ADDRESS ON IMPROVEMENTS FOR WHIPPLE ROAD, PHASING AND DISCLOSURE OF, UM, AREA DEVELOPMENT AND THE LAND USE PLAN TO OUR NEW RESIDENTS OF THE NEW DEVELOPMENT SUMMARY OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UM, IT DOES CALL FOR RESIDENTS TO DEVELOPMENT WITH A MAXIMUM OF 122 UNITS. 
          UH, THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS 2.48 UNITS PER ACRE. 
          THE RPD DOES PERMIT UP TO 2.5. 
          IT IS A MIX OF ATTACHED AND DETACHED UNITS A ROW DAY, WHICH BISECTS THE PROPERTY IS PROPOSED TO BE BUILT AS A TWO LANE ROAD. 
          UM, AND THE DEDICATED 100 FOOT THAT'S CALLED FOR FROM THE PLAN, UM, WILL BE DEDICATED, UH, SITE DEVELOPMENT, CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC WOULD BE LIMITED TO COME THROUGH HOCKETT ROAD, UH, THROUGH THE EXACT, THROUGH THE EXISTING AND PROPOSED READER'S BRANCH DEVELOPMENT. 
          UM, IT DOES NOT PROVIDE RESTRICTION RELATED TO HOME CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, BUT DOES COVER SITE DEVELOPMENT, TRACK TRAFFIC? UH, THE CASE HAS PROPOSED RECREATIONAL AMENITIES. 
          A PEDESTRIAN TRAIL SIDEWALKS ARE ON EACH SIDE OF THE ROAD, AND THERE ARE PROFFERED ELEVATIONS AND, UM, FOR THE ATTACHED UNITS AND MATERIALS FOR ALL UNITS TO MAKE THEM COMPARABLE TO READER'S BRANCH. 
          SO THE LAYOUT I HAVE HERE ON THE SCREEN, UM, YOU CAN SEE ROTATE THAT ACTUALLY BISECTS THE CENTER. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT ROAD IS ON, UM, OUR, IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE BLUE ARROW POINTS TO THE CONNECTION TO WHIP A RURAL ROAD ON THE NORTH. 
          THERE ARE PUBLIC AMENITIES. 
          I MEAN, RECREATIONAL AMENITIES PROPOSED THAT ARE PICKLEBALL COURTS HERE. 
          UM, THERE'S LOTS AN EXTENDED STUB ROAD THAT, UM, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WAS IN PLACE THAT PEOPLE KNEW THE EXTENSION OF ROAD A, THAT IT WOULD CONTINUE NORTH AND SOUTH. 
          UH, THE AREA THAT'S DESIGNATED A TWO THAT HAS THE RED, UM, DIAGONAL STRIPES ON IT. 
          THAT AREA IS PART OF THIS CASE. 
          THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY IS BASED UPON SOLELY THE AREA THAT'S SHOWN RPD, WHICH IS A GENERALLY THE LAYOUT WHERE YOU SEE THE LOTS. 
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SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR THE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE DOES HAVE A DESIGNATED ROAD PLAN, UH, THAT SHOWS POTENTIAL, UM, CONNECTIONS, UM, THAT WOULD BE DEVELOPED OVER THE YEARS AS DEVELOPMENT COMES FORWARD, UH, THE ROAD AND THAT IS REFERRED TO AS ROAD DAY ACTUALLY COMES DOWN HERE. 
          IT ACTUALLY CONNECTS FROM BROAD STREET ROAD AND PRE SEEDS DOWN INTO OUR PRIMARY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA. 
          SO THE ONE WITH JUST A OVERLAY HERE, A YELLOW ON THE MAP, THE YELLOW LINE IS ACTUALLY AGAIN, ROAD A, THE RED ARROWS, UM, DEMONSTRATE THERE ARE PROVIDED TO SHOW YOU THE, WHERE WIPRO ROAD WOULD ACTUALLY, UM, BE CONNECTED TO FROM ROADS IN THE SUBDIVISION AND THE CONNECTION TO THE EXISTING READERS BRANCH. 
          UM, THE ROAD LAYOUT IS NOT EXACTLY PRECISE. 
          WE GENERALLY BELIEVE WE KNOW WHAT THE CONFIGURATION BASED UPON OTHER PLANNING THAT HAS BEEN DONE OVER THE YEARS, INCLUDING IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DESIGN OF BROAD STREET ROAD. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD CONTINUE DOWN TO THE SOUTH TOWARDS OUR PRIMARY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA. 
          SO READER'S BRANCH, UH, CURRENTLY, UH, THOSE UNDER DEVELOPMENT WAS ZONING ALLOWS THE 303 UNITS, 238 OF THOSE UNITS HAVE BEEN RECORDED. 
          UH, THERE ARE 65 LAPS REMAINING, BUT THEY CANNOT BE CONSTRUCTED WITHOUT ADDITIONAL ACCESS. 
          THEY HAVE EXISTING TWO ACCESS POINTS ON TALK AT ROAD, BUT PRIOR TO THEM CONTINUING TO RECORDING MORE, LASTLY, DO YOU NEED TO ACHIEVE A SECOND ACCESS, ANOTHER ACCESS? AND THAT'S PROPOSED TO GO THROUGH THE GENTLEMAN PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. 
          UM, WEBER WHEEL ROAD ITSELF, UM, IS CURRENTLY A STATE MAINTAINED ROAD WITH PRO WITH 50 FOOT OF RIGHT AWAY, UM, AS APPROXIMATELY 16, UM, HOMES THAT ACCESS THAT ROADWAY, UH, THERE IS EXISTING PAVEMENT, BUT THE WIDTH IS GENERALLY LESS THAN 18 FEET WITH ROADSIDE DITCH. 
          SO PART OF THE APPROACH FOR THE PROFIT IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE COMING FROM FORWARD BY THE APPLICANT IS TO ACTUALLY DO AN IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT RURAL ROAD TO, UM, BUILD A, TO WHAT WE CALL THE LTU 40 STANDARDS, WHICH IS BASICALLY TWO FOOT, UM, TO 11 FOOT TRAVEL LANES, A TWO FOOT PAVED SHOULDER AND A SEVEN FOOT DITCH. 
          UM, THIS DESIGN WOULD ACTUALLY BE SMALLER THAN WHAT THE ROAD WOULD ACTUALLY COULD CALL FOR. 
          CAUSE IT'S A 40 FOOT RIGHT-AWAY DESIGN, NOT A 50 FEET, UM, RIGHT AWAY THERE IS ALSO PROPOSED THAT THERE WOULD BE TWO STRIPING, UH, FOR THE TURNS TO CREATE TWO SEPARATE TURN MOVEMENTS OF LEFT AND RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF BROAD STREET AND WHIPPOORWILL ROAD, COMMUNITY MEETINGS HAVE BEEN HELD. 
          UM, WE'VE HAD TWO, UH, THE FIRST ONE WAS HELD IN SEPTEMBER. 
          UH, THE CONCERNS OF COURSE AT THAT TIME WERE RELATED TO, UM, PAYMENTS TO WHIP A ROAD RELATED TO TRAFFIC DRAINAGE, UM, UH, POTENTIAL FOR SIDEWALKS CONCERNED ABOUT DISRUPTION UTILITIES THROUGH ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT WILDLIFE IN THE AREA OF PROPERTY VALUES THAT WE OFTEN SEE WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          A SECOND COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD SINCE THE BOARD'S PREVIOUS TIME DEFERRAL OF THIS CASE THAT WAS HELD IN, UH, MARCH 2ND. 
          UH, THE TOPICS DISCUSSED THERE ARE PRIMARY RELATED TO THE IMPROVEMENTS OF WIPRO ROAD. 
          THE APPLICANT DID PRESENT, UM, OPTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO RE-UP ROYAL RIDGE. 
          THEY INCLUDE THE INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALKS ALONG THE EASTERN SIDE, UM, STREETLIGHTS POTENTIALLY ON EXISTING POWER POLES AND ASKED FOR A COMMUNITY COMMENT. 
          THERE WERE OTHER DISCUSSIONS THAT RELATED TO THE IMPROVEMENTS IN WIPER WILL RUN THE CONCERNS WITH TRAFFIC. 
          AND ADDITIONALLY, THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT CAME ABOUT REGARDING A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL OF THE AREA. 
          UH, SENATE CON SENTENCING COMMENTS HAVE BEEN HELD. 
          UH, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN RECEIVED AT EACH OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD STAGE, UM, AND GENERALLY AROUND THE TOPICS THAT WE'VE COVERED BEFORE HERE, UM, THERE IS CONCERN, UM, UH, AGAIN, THAT CAME FORWARD THAT HAD REQUESTED A DEFERRAL AT ONE POINT FOR THE BOARD. 
          IT ACTUALLY THAT MEETING WAS CANCELED DUE TO WEATHER IN JANUARY. 
          UM, WE HAVE RECENTLY ALSO RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM WIPRO ROAD RESIDENTS STATING THEIR OPPOSITION TO THE ACCESS, UM, THROUGH WIPRO ROAD. 
          SO CITIZEN CONCERNS, SORT OF A SUMMATION TRAFFIC IMPACT ON WIPRO ROAD, THE IMPROVEMENT IMPACT POTENTIAL ON WIPRO ROAD THROUGH, THROUGH THE ROAD FIX, UM, CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION, TRAFFIC, AND BACK AND WHIP WERE RED. 
          AGAIN, THEIR PROFFERS ONLY COVER SITE DEVELOPMENT TRAFFIC. 
          THERE WAS ALSO CONCERN FROM THE ADJACENT READER'S BRANCH NEIGHBORHOOD REGARDING THE POTENTIAL FOR THE ATTACHED UNITS TO BE A PART OF THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO AGAIN, WE'LL GO THROUGH A SORT OF A SUMMARY OF THE PROFFERS TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 
          THE CURRENT PROPERS, AGAIN, MAXIMUM OF 122 UNITS, A ROAD IMPROVEMENTS HAVE TO BE DONE PRIOR TO THE FIRST CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND THAT IT WOULD INCLUDE THE IMPROVEMENTS TO WHIP ROAD, UH, DEDICATION, DESIGN, AND CONSTRUCTION OF TWO LANES OF ROAD, A RIGHT TURN LANE TYPER AT TAPER AND BROAD STREET ROAD IN WIPRO ROAD 
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AND A RIGHT TURN LANE FROM PEPPERWOOD ONTO BROAD STREET, THAT'S STRIPED OR CONSTRUCTED WITH STACKING THE ADDRESSED, UM, SITE CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC. 
          AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WOULD COME VIA A HIKE AT ROAD THROUGH READER'S BRANCH. 
          THERE ARE PROPOSED UPGRADED BUFFERS ALONG ROAD A AND ADJACENT TO THE TERMINUS OF WIPRO ROAD. 
          ELEVATIONS AND MATERIALS HAVE BEEN, HAS BEEN PROFFERED, SAUDI IRRIGATION, SIDEWALKS, STREET LIGHTING, UM, STRAIGHT TREES, UH, STRAIGHT LIGHTING. 
          THE PROFFER IS ACTUALLY LIMITED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T EXCEED WHAT WE'D EXPECT FOR RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER. 
          THERE IS NOT A PROFFER THAT REQUIRES TO PROVISION THE STREETLIGHTS. 
          UM, LOTS DO NOT INCLUDE A, UH, FLOOD PLAIN. 
          THERE IS HOA OWNERSHIP OF THE LARGE  PROPERTY. 
          UM, THAT'S A PORTION OF THIS APPLICATION WITH THE PROPOSED PEDESTRIAN TRAIL THAT GOES THROUGH THAT AREA AND ALSO AROUND THE PROPERTY. 
          SO TODAY WE DID RECEIVE PROFFERS, SO THAT WERE, UM, CHANGES, UM, A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO EXISTING PROFFERS. 
          OTHERS ARE NEW PROFFERS. 
          UM, THERE IS A PROFFER CALLING FORWARD TO DISCLOSURE TO NEW RESIDENTS OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO BE GIVEN INFORMATION, UM, REGARDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DEVELOPMENTALLY AND GEES IN THE AREA. 
          UM, STAFF DOES HAVE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE CLARITY OF THE INFORMATION THAT DISCLOSURE, IT ALSO REFERENCES THAT IT WOULD BE PROVIDED IN DEANS. 
          IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE, UM, A REQUIREMENT FOR THE DEVELOPER TO GIVE, UH, INFORMATION IN THE DEEDS. 
          THERE'S ALSO A PHASING OF BUILDING PERMITS ON THEIR PROPERTY, WHICH LIMITS THE NUMBER OF BUILDING PERMITS THAT CAN BE ISSUED TO 10 BEFORE APRIL 1ST, 2024. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, BEFORE 2024, THERE IS GOING TO BE ONGOING COMPLETION OF READER'S BRANCH PURSUING PLAN APPROVALS, AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF WIRED REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS WILL GENERALLY BE TAKEN CARE OF DURING THAT TIME. 
          UM, THERE WILL BE AN, A NO LIMIT ON PERMITS AFTER THE 2024 DATE BASED UPON THIS PROFFER. 
          UH, THERE WAS A CHANGE TO PROFFER EIGHT A AND REALLY THAT WAS JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THE SIDEWALKS WOULD BE PROVIDED ON INTERNAL ROADS ONLY WITHIN THEIR PROPERTY. 
          UH, SHOULD THERE BE SIDEWALKS PROVIDED ON WIPRO ROAD? THAT IS PART OF THE, UM, PROPOSAL THAT WE'LL DISCUSS ON THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THE APPLICANT DOES PROPOSE INSTALLATION OF SIDEWALKS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF WIPRO ROAD. 
          IF THE CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS ARE PROGRAMMED BY THE LOT OWNER. 
          SO TO EXPLAIN THAT THERE IS THE 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, UM, WHEN YOU HAVE A RICH, UH, EXCUSE ME, A DITCH DESIGN, TYPICALLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR SIDEWALKS ON THE LOT SIDE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LAW, THAT EVERYTHING, UH, FLOWS DRAINS PROPERLY INTO THE DITCH ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIDEWALKS ARE, ARE BUILT AT THE PROPER GRADE FOR SAFETY, UM, AND FOR PEOPLE TO EASILY UPON THEM, THERE'S TYPICALLY, UM, SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, ACTION CLEARING, UM, PERHAPS SOME GRADING DOWN TO THE YARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT FLOWS DOWN PROPERLY. 
          YOU DON'T WANT IT RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE SIDEWALK, A DROP OR A CHOP OFF OF THE ADJACENT LOTS PROPERTY. 
          AND SO A 10 FOOT CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT, TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT, UM, WOULD PROBABLY BE NECESSARY FROM THE, THE APPLICANT. 
          UH, NOW AGAIN, THE BASED UPON THE EMAIL WE'VE RECEIVED AND THE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY, THE COMMUNITY HAS INDICATED THEY'RE NOT RECEPTIVE TO THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS. 
          UM, THE ADDITIONAL PROFFER THAT WAS ADDED WITH TWO F WAS ALSO PROVISIONED A STREET TREES ALONG REP OF OUR ROAD AND THE PAYMENT TO THE COUNTY AND THE AMOUNT OF 25,000 FOR CENTERVILLE OR EASTERN TRAIL PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS. 
          AND THOSE ARE GENERALLY WITHIN THE AREA. 
          AND IN FACT, THE EASTERN TRAILS WOULD ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY CONNECT TO THAT, UM, PEDESTRIAN TRAIL THAT IS BEING PROFFERED WITH THIS CASE AROUND THE DEVELOPMENT, THE ABOVE EACH OF THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE PROVIDED PRIOR TO THE FIRST CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THE STAFF, THESE PROFFERS CAME IN TODAY, STAFF HAS TRIED TO EVALUATE AND GIVE COMMON AS BEST AS WE CAN. 
          UM, THE SHORT TIME, UH, OTHER STAFF CONCERNS IS THE TIMING OF THE BUFFER IMPROVEMENTS FOR THAT ORDINANCE HAS KIND OF UNCLEAR ON THAT. 
          AND THAT'S BEEN A CONCERN RECENTLY, UM, FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND THEN TIMING OF THE INSTALLATION FOR THE PRE PEDESTRIAN CHILD, IT'S KIND OF LATE IN THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND WE'LL BASICALLY, CAUSE THAT'S WHEN THE FAR EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S REALLY SAAS BISECTED BY, UH, ROUTE ROUTE, I'M SORRY, REV DAY. 
          SO THAT'S THE END OF THE PRESENTATION STAFF. 
          OF COURSE IT'S AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CASH. 
          BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD FOR QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO SORT OF, I SEE A LOT OF NEW FACES, AND I KNOW WHEN I COME TO THINGS LIKE THIS, I KIND OF LIKE TO KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. 
          SO JUST TAKE A MINUTE TO JUST EXPLAIN HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK TONIGHT. 
          YOU JUST HEARD THE STAFF PRESENTATION, UM, BOARD WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT UP AND WE WILL ALSO ASK THEM QUESTIONS. 
          AND THEN WE WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THAT'S A CHANCE FOR YOU TO COME FORWARD, 
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MAKE COMMENTS, ASK QUESTIONS, UM, THAT EITHER THE APPLICANT MAY COME BACK AND ANSWER, OR THE BOARD MAY TRY TO GET TO AN ANSWER FOR YOU, BUT THAT'S YOUR TIME TO REALLY MAKE YOUR COMMENTS AND SPEAK. 
          AND THEN, UM, AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE WILL, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL ASK THE BOARD IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OF THIS APPLICANTS OR STAFF, UM, AND ASK FOR A MOTION. 
          AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE GO TO WORK AND WE DO OUR BUSINESS. 
          SO I KNOW YOU MAY BE COMPELLED WHILE SOMEBODY IS SPEAKING OUT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TO MAKE A COMMENT. 
          I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE, UH, REFRAIN FROM THAT. 
          AND THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE WE MOVE ALONG SMOOTHLY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          AND AT THAT, I WILL OPEN UP TO THE BOARD FOR QUESTIONS FOR MR. CASH, THIS LAST CLIP. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. 
          SO, WHOOPS, WOULD YOU GO BACK, UM, AND TALK ABOUT WHIP WHEEL ROAD FOR A MINUTE BACK AT THE BEGINNING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WIPPA WHEEL WROTE ITSELF TODAY. 
          WHY? UM, THE PAVEMENT IS IT VARIES, UM, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S AN OLDER ROAD. 
          UM, THE WIDEST PARTS THAT I'D FOUND PERSONALLY WAS ABOUT 18 FEET WIDE. 
          UM, AND, BUT THE PAVEMENT DESIGN IS BEING PROPOSED WOULD BE 22 FEET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO 18 TO 22. 
          AND, UM, YOU SAID THERE'S A 50 FOOT RIGHT AWAY ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD, BUT RIGHT. 
          IT'S A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY. 
          UM, THAT IS, THAT WAS STANDARD UNDER 40 WITH THEIR PROPERTY NOW A TOTAL OF 50 FEET. 
          SO IT WOULD BE 25 FEET FROM THE CENTER LINE. 
          UM, BUT SORT OF LANDS PRETTY CLOSE IN THE LAYOUT OF WHERE IT CURRENTLY SITS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND YOU ALSO MENTIONED, OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING FROM 18 TO 22. 
          SO THAT'S READING UP FOUR FEET OF OUR 50 THEN. 
          UM, WHAT DID YOU THEN FEED FOR? YEAH, LET ME GET BACK TO THE PAYMENT. 
          IS THAT IT'S EASIER FOR BOTH OF US TO WALK THROUGH IT THAT WAY? OOPS. 
          NO, I'M I GO TOO FAR, SO ACTUALLY WHAT IT IS, SO YOU'D HAVE 11 FEET, UM, TWO TRAVELING. 
          UM, AND THEN, SO THAT'D BE A TOTAL OF 22 FEET. 
          YOU'D HAVE A TWO FOOT SHOULDER, UM, THAT'S PAVED AND GENERALLY A GRASS SHOULDER THAT TRANSITIONS INTO THE DITCH AND THE DITCH SHOULD BE ABOUT SEVEN FEET MINIMUM EACH SIDE ON THE INSIDE. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO 20 FEET, TWO FEET SHOWED ON EACH SIDE. 
          IS THAT IT? UM, RIGHT. 
          SO WHEN THE SEVEN FOOT DITCH, SO YOU'D HAVE, SO THAT'S WHAT CERTAINLY COMES OUT ON EACH SIDE. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WELL WE'VE SEEN SO FAR, ARE THERE PRELIMINARY LAYOUT FROM THE APPLICANTS? THE DITCH LINES ARE PRETTY CLOSE TO MATCHING WHERE THE EXISTING RIGHT. 
          OF WOULD BE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO DO THE MATH. 
          UM, AND I WILL, UH, AND THE LAST QUESTION FOR RIGHT NOW IS WHIP. 
          WELL ROAD OBVIOUSLY COMES TO BROAD STREET, CORRECT. 
          AND OUT THE OTHER END, IT DEAD ENDS, UH, CORRECT. 
          THE DUMB, DUMB IT DEAD ENDS AT THE, UH, SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IS THAT, UM, IS THERE A CO CUL-DE-SAC THERE, THERE IS. 
          IT'S NOT A VERY, WELL-ESTABLISHED ONE. 
          IT, UM, IT WOULDN'T PASS THE STANDARDS TODAY, BUT IT'S, IT'S HARD. 
          IT'S I CAN'T TELL IF THAT HAD BEEN THERE AT ONE POINT. 
          UM, BUT IT'S REALLY MORE OF A, UH, MORE OF JUST A STOP WITH A SMALL TRANSITION THAT YOU CAN TURN IN. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IS THAT, UM, THE, IS WIPPA WHEEL ROAD STUBBED AT THE PROPERTY LINE? CORRECT. 
          IT STEPS INTO THE GOVERNMENT PROPERTY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND I WOULD SERVE MY RIGHT FOR MORE QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ASK THE APPLICANT, LIKE TO COME FORWARD, I'M TRYING TO OPEN IT TO YOUR SLIDESHOW, THE SLIDESHOW TAB ON 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. 
          I GOT IT FROM BEGINNING. 
          SORRY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YES. 
          UM, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          I'M NATALIE CROFT WITH EAGLE CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND I THINK TONIGHT, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT, I'LL JUST FOCUS ON THE CHANGES TO OUR APPLICATION. 
          SO AT LAST MONTH'S BOARD MEETING 
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QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS WERE MAINLY ABOUT WHERE PROPEL ROAD, UM, THE NEIGHBOR, THE NEIGHBOR'S REQUESTS AND CONCERNS WERE ABOUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. 
          UH, THEY NOTED THEY WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR SIDEWALKS, STREETLIGHTS SPEED BUMPS, AND THE SPEED LIMIT. 
          THEY NOTED, UH, A REQUEST FOR A BARRIER AT THE END OF WHIPPOORWILL ROAD UNTIL CONSTRUCTION IN READERS' BRANCH WAS COMPLETED. 
          AND THEY ALSO ASKED TO BE SHOWN WHERE ON THE PROPERTY THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE INSTALLED. 
          SO OVERALL WE HEARD THAT THE COMMUNITY REALLY WOULD LIKE A GREATER INVESTMENT ON  ROAD. 
          THEY WOULD LIKE GREATER COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND INPUT INTO WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. 
          AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET THESE IMPROVEMENTS IN WRITING AS PART OF THE PROFFERS. 
          SO THE BOARD OF FURTHER APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, AND ASKED US AND THE COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER IN GOOD FAITH DISCUSSIONS TO SEE IF THERE WAS SOME COMMON GROUND ON WHICH TO STAND. 
          WE SET A DATE FOR A FOLLOWUP COMMUNITY MEETING, AND WE GOT TO WORK, UM, IN THE INTERIM PRIOR TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING, WE MET WITH THE DOMINION POWER WITH  AND STAFF TO LEARN MORE AND TO FIND ANSWERS. 
          SO WE LEARNED A COUPLE GOOD THINGS, UH, CONCRETE SIDEWALK, NOT THE ASPHALT TRAIL IS PERMITTED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          SPEED BUMPS ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY V DOT DUE TO MAINTENANCE AND SNOW REMOVAL ISSUES. 
          THE SPEED LIMIT ON WHIPPOORWILL ROAD WOULD REMAIN 25 MILES AN HOUR WITH REGARD TO DOMINION POWER COBRA, HEAD LIGHT FIXTURES COULD BE MOUNTED TO EXISTING POWER POLES. 
          UM, AND THEN THE BARRIERS THAT WERE SUGGESTED ARE REALLY GOVERNED BY ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS AND FIRE AND EMS REGULATIONS. 
          WE STAKED THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF WHIPPOORWILL ROAD. 
          UM, SO HERE, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S HARD TO SEE THE LITTLE PINK FLAGS FLYING ON THE, ON THE PICTURE, BUT THE RED CIRCLES ARE SHOWING WHERE THE FLAGS ARE LOCATED ALONG THE STREET. 
          AND THAT GIVES A PRETTY GOOD INDICATION OF, OF WHERE THOSE, WHERE THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE IS IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE HOMES IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE DRIVEWAYS. 
          AND IT SHOWS THAT THE ROADWAY IS PRETTY WELL IN THE CENTER OF THAT RIGHT OF WAY. 
          WE ALSO WORKED WITH OUR ENGINEER TO EXPLORE THE FEASIBILITY OF INSTALLING SIDEWALK ALONG WIPER WHEEL ROAD. 
          OUR ENGINEERS SPENT CONSIDERABLE TIME MAKING SURE THAT THE SIDEWALK WOULD FIT WITHIN THE EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY. 
          UM, AND HE PRODUCED TWO DESIGNS FOR US, ONE SHOWING JUST THE ROADWAY IN THAT 50 FOOT RIGHT-OF-WAY AND ONE SHOWING THE SIDEWALK WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, MAKING SURE AGAIN, THAT EVERYTHING WOULD FIT. 
          UH, THE TOP SLIDE. 
          THE TOP IMAGE HAS THE SIDEWALK ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE. 
          AND THE BOTTOM REALLY IS, IS THE SAME JUST WITHOUT THE SIDEWALK. 
          SO ON MARCH 2ND, WE HELD OUR FOLLOW-UP COMMUNITY MEETING. 
          IT WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED. 
          UH, WE PRESENTED THE REQUESTED INFORMATION EXHIBITS AND ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS, ASKED AT THE BOARD MEETING IN FEBRUARY, WE ALSO CREATED A MAP BOARD OF THE STREET. 
          WE ASKED THE NEIGHBORS TO NOTE THEIR PREFERENCES FOR STREETLIGHTS AND SIDEWALKS ON THE BOARD USING COLOR CODED STICKERS, IN ORDER TO HELP US GET A BETTER IDEA OF OVERALL NEIGHBORHOOD PREFERENCES. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT ACTIVITY. 
          AND INSTEAD SENT A NOTE WITH AN OVERALL OBJECTION TO ANY CONNECTION TO WHAT BROOKVILLE WROTE. 
          ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE ACTED IN GOOD FAITH, TOOK THE BOARD'S COMMENTS TO HEART RESEARCH, THE INFORMATION THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED AND SHOWED UP WITH ANSWERS AND OPTIONS. 
          UH, WE HAD NO INPUT TO GO OFF OF. 
          SO WE TURNED AGAIN TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH STRONGLY ENCOURAGES AND ADVOCATES FOR PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT COUNTY VILLAGE AREAS. 
          SO IN ADDITION TO THE PREVIOUSLY PROFFERED IMPROVEMENTS TO WHIPPOORWILL, WE HAVE ADDED A NEW PROFFER TO INSTALL A CONCRETE SIDEWALK WITHIN THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY SUBJECT TO RECEIVING THE NECESSARY TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT FROM THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS. 
          IN THE EVENT, WE ARE NOT GRANTED THESE EASEMENTS AND ARE THEREFORE UNABLE TO BUILD THE SIDEWALK. 
          WE ARE STILL COMMITTED TO MAKING THE INVESTMENT AND ARE PROFFERING STREET TREES TO ENHANCE THE WHIPPOORWILLS ROAD STREET-SCAPE AND A CASH PROFFER TO CONTRIBUTE TO PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES ELSEWHERE IN THE VILLAGE OR IN THE EAST END TRAIL SYSTEM. 
          OTHER ADDED PROFFERS WERE NOTED BY STAFF AND INCLUDE INSTALLING SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE OF THE SHORT EXTENSION OF WHIPPOORWILL ROAD THAT ENTERS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, LIMITING THE NUMBER OF BUILDING PERMITS TO BE ISSUED PRIOR TO APRIL, 2024. 
          AND AS MR. MCDERMOTT NOTED, THERE IS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION ONLINE, A WEALTH OF INFORMATION ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE. 
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WE ARE PROFFERING TO DO OUR PART IN IMPROVING PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AS IT RELATES TO THE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE, THE LAND USES THE COUNTY'S TRANSPORTATION NETWORK AND PUBLIC FACILITIES. 
          ONE OTHER POINT THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO BRING UP IS DENSITY THAT WE'RE WILLING NEIGHBORHOOD IS PLANTED AT A DENSITY OF 1.6, LOTS PER ACRE, OUR PROPOSAL FOR THE GILMAN PROPERTY, WHATEVER MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 1.7, LOTS PER ACRE, OVER THE ENTIRE PARCEL. 
          OUR PLAN CREATES A HIGH QUALITY, HIGHLY AMENITIZED NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE APPLICATION ALIGNS WITH THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, NOT JUST IN LAND USE, BUT ALSO IN TRANSPORTATION, NATURAL RESOURCES AND PUBLIC FACILITIES. 
          IT IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY'S ARTERIAL MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE COUNTY'S PARKS, RECREATION AND FACILITIES MASTER PLAN. 
          WE APPRECIATE ALL OF STAFF'S GUIDANCE AND TIME ON THIS CASE, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL THIS EVENING, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. 
          I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. 
          I CAN ALSO KIND OF TICK OFF THE QUESTIONS THAT STAFF BROUGHT UP AS WELL. 
          UH, CRAFT, UM, YOU KNOW, LAST TIME WE GOT TOGETHER, WE HEARD THAT FOLKS WANTED TO COME TOGETHER AND IT JUST WASN'T HAPPENING. 
          SO I, I THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN. 
          I THINK THE CITIZENS FOR SHOWING UP TO THAT MEETING AND DOING THAT WORK AS WELL. 
          SO WE APPRECIATE THAT AT THAT I WILL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SURE. 
          MR. WILKINSON QUICKLY. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I THINK MR. CASH TOUCHED ON THIS, UH, ON, ON THEIR CHAIN PROPERTY. 
          UH, WELL, I'M MOVED, LET ME GO BACK TO WHERE, OKAY. 
          18 WITHIN MARKETING PACKAGES, COMMA CONTRACTS, COMMENT, AND OR DEEDS COMMA, THE APPLICANT SHALL DISCLOSE. 
          I THINK IT WAS THE SAME SENTENCE THAT MR. CASH SAID. 
          MY STAFF HAD A LITTLE QUESTION ABOUT THE CLARITY, BUT I CERTAINLY HAVE QUESTION ABOUT THE CLARITY. 
          I CAN SEE IT MIGHT TAKE A LITTLE THOUGHT AND YOU DON'T WANT TO COMMIT TO PUTTING THINGS IN DEEDS, RIGHT. 
          AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE OR OPTIONS, CAUSE MAYBE YOU WANT SOME FLEXIBILITY TO THINK ABOUT HOW, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT INTO A DEED, BUT THE WAY IT READS IT COULD BE OPTIONAL THAT YOU COULD JUST END UP NOT DOING YELLOW THINGS AND PUT IT ONLY IN A DEED. 
          AND I, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU MAYBE MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IN MARKETING PACKAGES, IN THE CONTRACTS THAT WILL BE IN THERE. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, I'D BE NICE TO HAVE IT A DEED FOR LATER, BUT I, I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME HESITANCY ABOUT THAT, BUT I'D LIKE TO REPHRASE THAT. 
          SO IT'S CLEAR THAT YOU WILL, UM, PUT IT IN MARKETING PACKAGES AND CONTRACTS, IF YOU, OR AT LEAST I'M KIND OF TELLING YOU WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR, BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M SEEKING IS THAT FOLKS GET THIS INFORMATION, NOT WHEN THEY'RE SITTING DOWN AT THE CLOSING TABLE, YOU KNOW, GETTING READY TO RECEIVE A D, BUT TH THEY KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. 
          UM, THE OTHER ITEM IS, UH, YOUR ADDITIONAL ABOUT THE ITEM. 
          IT WOULD BE TWO F, TWO F IF ALL NECESSARY EASEMENTS ARE RECEIVED BY THE APPLICANT AND THE AFFORDABLE RECORDABLE FORM FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 120 DAYS OF THIS REZONING. 
          YES. 
          UM, I GUESS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT EXPECTING THESE FOLKS TO GO OUT AND HIRE LAWYERS TO WRITE UP EASEMENTS AND WHATNOT. 
          SO, UM, JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO PREPARE EASEMENTS AND, AND MAKE IT SO THAT IF PEOPLE ARE RECEPTIVE, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND MONEY, UH, AND, AND, AND DO ANY RUNNING DOWN. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY MAYBE IF YOU PRESENT IS YOUR PLAN TO PRESENT EASEMENTS, TO HAVE AN EASEMENT DRAFTED AND SHOW FOLKS. 
          AND, AND OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE MIGHT CHOOSE TO SAY, WELL, LET ME HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE LOOK THIS OVER. 
          I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE SUCH THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO TAKE AFFIRMATIVE STEPS. 
          NO, SIR. 
          WE WOULD DO EVERYTHING TO MAKE IT AS USER-FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          WE CERTAINLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THE SIDEWALK. 
          WE THINK WOULD BE AN ASSET TO THE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE. 
          UM, AND WE WOULD HAVE AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT DRAFTED, WHICH OF COURSE THE RESIDENTS ARE WELCOME AND WOULD ENCOURAGE LEGAL COUNSEL. 
          UM, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD PREPARE FOR THEM. 
          AND SO THE WAY THE NUMBERS WORK, YOU PROJECTED LIKE 50, 50,000 TO DO THE SIDEWALK. 
          YES, SIR. 
          AND SO YOU'RE PROJECTING 25,000 TO DO THE STREET TREES AND YOU WOULD TAKE THE BOUT IF THE SIDEWALK DOESN'T WORK OUT, YOU WOULD TAKE THE BALANCE OF YOUR PROJECTED 50. 
          YES, SIR. 
          THE, THE INVESTMENT NUMBER THAT WE, UM, WOULD BE INSTALLING THE SIDEWALK IS A $50,000 SIDEWALK THAT WAS DONE WITH OUR ESTIMATING CREW, OUR TEAM, LOOKING AT THAT AND SAYING, OKAY, BASED ON THE LENGTH, THE WIDTH TYPOGRAPHY, WE ESTIMATE THAT THE SIDEWALK WOULD COST $50,000 INSTALLED, CONSTRUCTED. 
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UM, WE'RE NOT SHIRKING THE FINANCIAL COMMITMENT OR THE FINANCIAL INVESTMENT ON THE ROADWAY. 
          UM, IF WE ARE UNABLE TO PUT THE SIDEWALK IN, THEN WE WILL MAKE THAT INVESTMENT. 
          IN OTHER WAYS, UM, SUCH AS THE STREET TREES, WE'VE ALREADY COORDINATED TO GET PRICING ON THAT. 
          AND THAT CAME IN RIGHT BETWEEN 24 AND $25,000. 
          AND THE REMAINING 25 OUT OF THE, FOR THE TOTAL OF $50,000 FROM THE SIDEWALK, UM, WOULD GO TO AS A CASH PROFFER TO THE COUNTY SO THAT THERE COULD BE SOME PEDESTA PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS IN THE VILLAGE SINCE WE WOULD BE UNABLE TO MAKE OUR IMPROVEMENT. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, MS. SCARF, THANK YOU AS CHAIR, MS. CROFT, ONE QUESTION, YES. 
          THE PROFFER SAYING THAT YOU NEED TO GET THE PERMISSION FROM THE DDA, FROM THE OWNERS FOR THE SIDEWALKS. 
          IS THAT A, IF ONE PERSON SAYS NO, THEN THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS FOR THE ENTIRE AREA, OR HOW IS IT NOT, NOT NECESSARILY. 
          UM, THERE MIGHT BE PLACES ALONG THE ROADWAY WHERE WE CAN BUILD THE SIDEWALK, UM, WITHIN THAT 50 FOOT, RIGHT OF WAY, WITHOUT NEEDING THAT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT, THOSE SPACES ARE, ARE NOT COMMON, BUT THEY'RE THERE ALONG THE WAY IN SPOTS. 
          UM, WE WOULD BE ASKING FOR THAT 10 FOOT TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT AS A BLANKET ALONG THE ROADWAY. 
          BUT IF THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN THERE MIGHT BE A CHANCE ON A SPECIFIC PARCELS WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO STILL CONSTRUCT IT WITHOUT NEEDING THAT EASEMENT. 
          MR. SPOONFLOWER I, I DON'T DOUBT WHAT NATALIE SAYS FROM THE PODIUM, BUT THAT IS NOT IN THE PROFFER. 
          THE PROFFER JUST SAYS IF ALL OF THE SRAS MID SERVICE SAVED AND THEN IF NOT, SO JUST, JUST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROPER LANGUAGE IS, IS JUST SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. 
          SO SOME EASEMENTS MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARY TO ACQUIRE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SORRY, BECAUSE IN ORDER TO BUILD THE SIDEWALK, YOU HAVE TO GET ONTO ONE SIDE OF IT. 
          SO YOU'RE, THE SIDEWALKS IS GOING TO BE VERY CLOSE TO THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          UH, YES, SIR. 
          THE SIDEWALK WOULD BE EITHER RIGHT UP AGAINST OR WITHIN A FOOT OF THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE. 
          SO YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO BE ABLE TO POUR IT. 
          THEY GET FOUNDATION UNDERNEATH THIS. 
          YES. 
          AND ALSO SOME OF THE FRONT YARDS ARE SLOPED. 
          THE SIDEWALK WOULD NOT SIT ON AN ANGLE. 
          WE WOULD HAVE, WE WOULD POUR THE SIDEWALK FLAT. 
          SO THERE WOULD BE SOME GREAT TIE-INS WITHIN THAT ATTEMPT WITHIN THAT 10 FOOT EASEMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND THEN YOU WOULD, ANY AREAS YOU HAD TO DISTURB, YOU WOULD PUT IT BACK THE WAY IT WAS BEFORE? ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT THE SAME OR BETTER? I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. 
          UM, THE SIDEWALKS, IF, IF THE RESIDENTS, UH, ELECTED TO DO THE SITE YES. 
          WOULD THOSE SIDEWALKS CONNECT INTO THE READER'S BRANCH PATHWAYS THAT YOU HAVE PLANNED THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS? SO THE RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE DIRECT ACCESS, NOT JUST ON WHIPPOORWILL, BUT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO WALK SAFELY ALL THROUGHOUT. 
          UH, YES, SIR. 
          IF YOU CAN SEE, THERE WE GO. 
          SO WHIPPOORWILL ROAD COMES UP HERE, WE WOULD CONTINUE THE SIDEWALK ON THIS PORTION OF WHIPPOORWILL ROAD, AS IT HITS, AND THEN THE TRAIL SYSTEM IT'S JUST, JUST SLIGHTLY NORTH AND THERE WOULD BE ACCESS THERE, UH, ADDRESS MR. LUMPKIN'S QUESTION, IF I MAY, ABOUT THE DEED LANGUAGE, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO DO A LITTLE HOUSEKEEPING FIX ON THAT PROFFER, JUST TO SAY, UM, WITHIN MARKETING PACKAGES AND CONTRACTS, THE APPLICANT SHALL DISCLOSE. 
          UM, BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT DEEDS REALLY. 
          UM, THAT'S NOT REALLY THE APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR IT IN DEEDS. 
          UM, SO REALLY THE APPROPRIATE PLACE WOULD BE THE MARKETING PACKAGES AND THE CONTRACTS, AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE FULLY WILLING AND READY TO, TO COMMIT TO. 
          UM, ONE OTHER THING I WANT TO CLARIFY IS THAT WE'RE PROVABLE ROAD IS NOT PLANTED AS A CUL-DE-SAC THAT 50 FOOT RIGHT. 
          OF WAY. 
          JUST GO STRAIGHT DOWN AND STOPS. 
          THERE IS SOME EXTRA PAVEMENT THAT IS INSTALLED DOWN THERE. 
          UM, BUT IT'S PLANTED, JUST STOPPING ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. CROFT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO ONE OF THE COMMENTS I HEARD FROM STAFF HAD TO DO WITH PROPER ITEM, NUMBER SIX, THE BUFFERS, AND I'M NOT 
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SURE HE SAID THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT IT OR HAD JUST RECEIVED IT AND HADN'T EVALUATED IT. 
          UM, SO I'D LIKE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BUFFERS HERE. 
          SURE. 
          UM, IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ORDINANCE WAS INTERPRETED TO SAY THAT THE BUFFERS WOULD HAVE TO BE INSTALLED BY 50% OF THE BUILDING OF THE ISSUANCE OF 50% OF THE BUILDING PERMITS. 
          UM, SO THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THE, HOW THE ORDINANCE WAS INTERPRETED. 
          SO THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY PUT IN A PROFFER IN WRITING. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO DO. 
          UM, BUT IF IT'S PREFERABLE THAT WE WRITE THAT OUT AND TO MAKE THE ORDINANCE NOT BE AN INTERPRETATION, BUT BLACK AND WHITE, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE HAPPY TO DO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I MAY GET SOME MORE STAFF GUIDANCE ON THAT AS WE GO ON. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          I'M GOING TO, UH, OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING JUST SU UH, REMIND FOLKS. 
          YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. 
          A YELLOW LIGHT WILL COME ON WHEN YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE AT GRAY AND THE RED LIGHT LIKE YOU TO WRAP IT UP, PLEASE. 
          ADDITIONALLY, YOU CAN ALSO, UH, GIVE TWO MINUTES OF YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE FOR A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES FOR THAT PERSON TO SPEAK. 
          SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          AND WHEN YOU COME UP, PLEASE JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUICK FOR YOU AND I'LL SHOW YOU HOW TO USE IT. 
          SHE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE DROPPED DOWN THERE HERE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THIS IS FOR, OH, SORRY. 
          OKAY. 
          THIS ONE IS GO BACK. 
          YOU'RE GOOD. 
          ACCIDENTALLY. 
          GET IT REAL. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I JUST WANT TO HIT THE WHITE ONE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND JESSICA, AND THEN THIS HAS A POINTER RIGHT THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY ABOUT THAT. 
          OKAY, GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, MY NAME IS SHIRLEY WISE, SHANA AND I LIVE AT 1575 WHIP BURWELL ROAD. 
          I MOVED TO WIPPA WELL FROM MY PARENTS BACK IN 1965, I GRADUATED FROM GOOCHLAND HIGH SCHOOL AND THIS VERY BUILDING. 
          AND I'M NOW ENJOYING MY RETIREMENT. 
          OUR COUNTY'S WEBSITE SAYS GOOCHLAND COUNTY HAS A RICH AGRICULTURAL HISTORY FOUNDED IN 1727. 
          GOOCHLAND WAS A FRONTIER AREA WHICH OFFERED NATURAL SETTING FOR LARGE PLANTATIONS AND COUNTRY. 
          AS STATES, WHILE OF COURSE MUCH HAS CHANGED SINCE 17 27, 2 THINGS THAT HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PART OF GOOCHLAND QUALITY OF LIFE, A RURAL, RURAL BEAUTY AND PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          I OBJECT TO THE CURRENT GILMAN PROPERTY, CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON THE BASIS OF ITS NON-RURAL CHARACTER AND ITS LACK OF PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS HERE WITH MAY, WILL NOW SHARE THE FACTS TO SUPPORT YOUR DENIAL OF THE GILMAN PROPERTY REZONING APPLICATION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. FOSTER. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS PAULINE COPE. 
          I LIVE AT 1 5 6 0 WHIPPOORWILL ROAD. 
          UH, I OPPOSE THE CONNECTION OF READER'S BRANCH TO WHIPPOORWILL ROAD AND I FOR THE REST OF MY TIME TO MY HUSBAND, SAM BLACK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE PROCESSES YOU GUYS ARE COMING FORWARD. 
          IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE GIVING YOUR TIME, THEN YOU DON'T SPEAK. 
          YOU JUST GIVE YOUR TIME TO THE NEXT PERSON JUST SO WE CAN GET THAT CLEAR AS WE GO THROUGH. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD EVENING BOARD. 
          MY NAME IS SAM BLACK. 
          1 5 6 0 WHIPPOORWILL ROAD IS WHERE I LIVE. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE, OH, IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. 
          THE MAPS GIVEN 
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IN THE MID 57 ADDED AS A RURAL SUBDIVISION WHIPPOORWILL ROAD, BEING THE SOLE ARTERY TO BROAD STREET. 
          NOW 70 YEARS LATER, UM, IT'S STATE ROUTE 10, 10 IS PAVED AND DEVELOPED WITH 15 NOW, 15 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          60 YEARS LATER, APRIL, 2018, A LARGE PARCEL AND ADJACENT SAN MARIE WAS APPROVED AS A RURAL SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS READER'S BRANCH. 
          THEY WERE PROPOSING AT THAT TIME 308 FAMILY HOMES. 
          NOW I THINK IT'S 303. 
          I DON'T RAISE OVER 300. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          SAME DEVELOPER NOW SEEKS TO REZONE ANOTHER LARGE PARCEL OF LAND KNOWN AS THE GILMAN PROPERTY. 
          THIS IS AT THE SOUTH END OF WHIPPOORWILL ROAD AND, UH, WITH 122 SINGLE-FAMILY PLATTS ORIGINALLY 84. 
          NOW 122 DEVELOPERS SAYS THE PLAN LOT SIZES ARE SMALLER THAN THOSE IN READER'S BRANCH. 
          USING THE CURRENT DATA FROM THE GIS SYSTEM. 
          THE AVERAGE DEVELOPED LOT IN SAN MARIE FOREST DEVELOP LOT A LOT WITH A HOUSE ON IT IS 0.6, EIGHT ACRES. 
          WHILE THE READER'S BRANCH REPRESENTATIVE AVERAGE IS 0.2, SIX ACRES. 
          UH, THAT'S A LOT SMALLER THAN, UH, WHAT WE HAVE AT WHAT POINT DOES SOMETHING STOP BEING RURAL WHEN YOU PUT A HOUSE ON IT, GO AHEAD. 
          THE CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS, AS YOU CAN SEE ALL SHOW SINGLE HOUSES, LOTS OF LAND AROUND THEM. 
          EVERYTHING'S FINE. 
          LIKE REALITY, UH, COMES DOWN TO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT. 
          THIS IS REALITY HOUSES CRAMMED NEXT TO EACH OTHER. 
          POSTAGE STAMP LOTS. 
          THIS DOESN'T LOOK RURAL AT ALL. 
          THE REZONING PLAN BEFORE THE BOARD DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO GOOCHLAND COUNTY STRATEGIC GOAL. 
          NUMBER TWO AND PRESERVE RURAL CHARACTER. 
          MERRIAM WEBSTER DEFINES RULE IS RELATING TO THE COUNTRY COUNTRY, PEOPLE OR LIFE OR AGRICULTURE DWELLINGS ON THE PROPERTIES LESSER THAN HALF THE SIZE OF THOSE IN ESTABLISHED SUBDIVISION DO NOT PRESERVE RURAL CHARACTER AND THIS PLAN MUST BE DENIED. 
          AND I DEFER ANY TIME LEFT TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYA MINUTES, OFTEN I LIVE AT 15 6 65 WHIPPOORWILL ROAD AND I DEFER MY TIME TO MY WIFE. 
          KELLY, DO YOU, MR. PRIVATE GOOD EVENING. 
          UM, MY NAME IS KELLY PROPHET. 
          I LIVE AT 1565 OR RURAL ROAD. 
          UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UM, WELL, LET ME JUST GET STARTED. 
          UH, THE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER 29TH. 
          UM, AND WE HAD MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THERE. 
          WE HAD, UM, OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION THERE AND, UM, AS WELL AS SOME NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, MEMBERS AS WELL, UNFORTUNATELY I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND THAT MEETING. 
          WE WERE OUT OF TOWN, UM, BUT, UH, QUESTIONS AND SOME CONCERNS WERE BROUGHT UP REGARDING SAFETY AT THAT TIME, AS WELL AS, UH, DRAINAGE UTILITIES. 
          UM, AND ALSO SOME COMMENTS ABOUT WILDLIFE AND PROPERTY VALUES. 
          AND THEN IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, A LARGE PARCEL OF LAND NEXT TO SAN MARIE FOREST, UM, WAS PROPOSED AS A RURAL SUBDIVISION WITH 122 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          AND, UM, AND D AND, UM, OKAY. 
          SO, UM, THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS WERE HELD TO DISCUSS LARGE PARCEL OF LAND ADJACENT ZONING AS A RURAL SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS READER'S BRANCH WITH OVER 300 FAMILY DWELLINGS. 
          UM, AND THEN WE HAD AN, UH, IN 2017 COMMUNITY MEETINGS WERE HELD TO DISCUSS A LARGE PARCEL OF LAND ADJACENT TO SAN MARIE FOREST FOR REZONING AS A RURAL SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS READER'S BRANCH WITH OVER 300 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS IN APRIL 
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OF 2018. 
          THIS LARGE PARCEL OF LAND JASON TO SAN MARIE FORCE WAS THEN APPROVED AS A RURAL SUBDIVISION KNOWN AS READER'S BRANCH WITH OVER 300 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND NO CONNECTION TO WHAT BURWELL ROAD, BUT WITH THE STUB ROAD CONNECTION TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST, AS YOU CAN SEE. 
          ALL RIGHT, SO THEN, UH, JUST LESS THAN SIX MONTHS AGO, WE HAD THAT COMMUNITY MEETING THAT I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED TALKING ABOUT THE GILMAN PROPERTY, UM, THAT WAS, UM, FOR, UH, ZONING AS A RURAL SUBDIVISION WITH 122 DWELLINGS IN FEBRUARY 22. 
          UM, THIS LARGE PARCEL OF LAND ADJACENT TO SAN MARIE FOREST WAS THEN PROPOSED AS A RURAL SUBDIVISION WITH 122 HOME WITH 122 FAMILY DWELLINGS, DESPITE PREVIOUS COMMUNITY CONCERNS AND OBJECTIONS FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS, STARTING WITH THE READER'S BRANCH, UM, DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND THAT CONNECTION TO WHAT BURWELL ROAD, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE REZONING APPLICATION BEING CONSIDERED CONTAINS THE ABOVE ENTITLED REVIEW BY STATE AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND THAT STATES FOR THAT CONNECTIVITY TO ADJOINING PARCELS MUST BE MET OR HAVE EXCEPTIONS. 
          GRANTED HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE DAILY TRAFFIC COUNT OR AA D T FOR WHIPPOORWILL ROAD IS 140. 
          THE REZONING PRESENTATION SELECTED SELECTIVELY REFERENCES PAGES 15 AND 25, A V DOT SECONDARY STREET ACCEPTANCE REQUIREMENTS, OR SSAR IT REFERENCES PAGE 15 THAT THAT SAYS REGULATION REQUIRES THAT NEW DEVELOPMENTS PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN ADJACENT DEVELOPMENTS AND UNDEVELOPED PARCELS. 
          THE PRESENTATION ALSO REFERENCES PAGE 25 THAT STATES IF A NEW DEVELOPMENT IS BUILT THAT A BUTTS TO A V DOT MAINTAIN STUB OUT THAT NEW DEVELOP MUST CONNECT FOR ITS STREETS TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR ACCEPTANCE INTO THE SECONDARY SYSTEM V THAT'S MOST RECENT TRAFFIC DATA FOR WIPPER WOOL ROAD FROM APRIL OF 2015, THAT IS BEING REFERENCED IN THE REZONING APPLICATION SHOWS AN AVERAGE OF 140 TRIPS PER DAY FOR 15 DEVELOPED WHIPPOORWILL PROPERTIES. 
          THIS EQUALS ABOUT NINE AND A THIRD DAILY TRIPS PER PROPERTY CONSERVATIVELY. 
          THE 89 PROPERTIES ENCLOSED IN THE RED LINE ON THE SLIDE WOULD USE WHIP RURAL ROAD AS THEIR ROUTE TO EXIT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WITH THE 89 PROPERTIES AND USING V DOTS DATA OF NINE AND A THIRD DAILY TRIPS. 
          THE AAD T OR AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS JUMPS BY 830 DAILY TRIPS TO A GRAND TOTAL OF 970, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 692% INCREASING TRIPS BY THIS AMOUNT ON WHIPPOORWILL ROAD, A TWO LANE ROAD WITH NO DIVIDER IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS UNSAFE. 
          WE ALSO CONSULTED V DOT'S OWN SSAR, WHICH WAS REFERENCED BY THE ZONING. 
          CAN I FINISH IT, UM, TO JUSTIFY USING WHIP RULE ROAD AS A CONNECTION WE FOUND ON PAGE 26, A VERY GERMANE ARGUMENT. 
          NOW THAT WHIPPOORWILL ROAD IS A SAFETY ISSUE TO NOT USE IT. 
          PAGE 26 OF THE SSAR STATES. 
          THERE MAY BE INSTANCES WHERE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT APPROVES A SITE PLAN WHERE THE STREETS AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENT DO NOT CONNECT TO THE PUBLICLY MAINTAINED STUB OUT IN THE ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT. 
          THE DISTRICT ADMINISTRATOR WILL COMMONLY CONSIDER ISSUES AS IF THE STUB OUT CONNECTION WOULD BE UNSAFE, NEIGHBORING LAND ISSUES AND GEOMETRIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CONNECTION. 
          SO QUICKLY, GOING BACK TO THE CONSERVATIVE ASSUMPTION THAT 89 OF THE PROPOSED PROPERTIES WOULD USE WHIPPOORWILL ROAD AT AN AVERAGE OF NINE AND A THIRD DAILY TRIPS PER HOUSEHOLD INCREASES THE AAD T BY 830 DAILY TRIPS TO A TOTAL OF 970, OR AN INCREASE OF 692%. 
          THIS WOULD BE UNSAFE. 
          AND THE, UM, THE REZONING PLAN AS, AS PLANNED BEFORE THE BOARD CREATES AN UNACCEPTABLE TRAFFIC SAFETY AND PEDESTRIAN HAZARD, AND MUST BE DENIED. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME GO OVER. 
          I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HOW DO YOU WANT ME TO HAVE THE FOUR PEOPLE TO LOOK THEM UP HERE AND NOT JUST, YES, PLEASE. 
          CAUSE THEY END UP IN YIELDS. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WE HAVE TO GIVE THEIR NAMES. 
          MARVIN'S GOT TO COME UP HERE. 
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HELLO. 
          MY NAME IS MATT MCKINNEY AND I YIELD MY TIME TO MICHAEL MCDERMOTT. 
          IT'S 15 60, 15 67. 
          MORE FOR WORK. 
          THANK YOU, WILLIAM DANIELA'S 1586 WHIPPOORWILL ROAD. 
          I DEFER TO MICHAEL MCDERMOTT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HI, I'M FELICE MCDERMOTT, 1576 WEBER WORLD ROAD. 
          AND I DEFER TO MY HUSBAND LIKE WE'LL MAKE DERMOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MA'AM MARVIN SHANER, 1575 PRUNE AND I HAVE HEARD OF MICHAEL. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL MICHAEL MCDERMOTT, 1879 SPRUCE LANE, MAIDENS, VIRGINIA. 
          UH, AND I GUESS I DREW THE SHORT STRAW AND GOT THE TARGET ON MY BACK. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'VE HAD A BUNCH OF MEETINGS IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, GOING BACK TO READER'S BRANCH. 
          AND NOW MOST RECENTLY FOR GILMAN, UH, THE OVERWHELMING CONSENSUS HAS BEEN DON'T USE WEBER. 
          WE'LL RATHER AS A CONNECTOR, WE'VE OUTLINED THE TWO MAIN ISSUES HERE IN ADDITION TO PUBLIC SAFETY, YOU KNOW, AND I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THE, THE SIGNED PETITIONS WITH 130 SOME SIGNATURES TO THE BOARD. 
          UH, THE SIMPLY SAYS WE, THE UNDERSIGNED GOOCHLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS OBJECT TO THE CURRENT GILMAN PROPERTY, CONCEPTUAL DEVELOPMENT PLAN ON THE BASIS OF NON-RURAL CHARACTER AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND SUBMIT THIS PETITION TO THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON MARCH 15TH, 2022, WHICH IS TODAY, WE ONLY STARTED CIRCULATING THESE PETITIONS LAST WEEK AND THERE'S ONLY 15 PROPERTIES ON WHIPPOORWILL. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE 30. 
          THE BOTTOM LINE IS THERE'S A HUNDRED, AT LEAST A HUNDRED OTHER VOTERS IN THE COUNTY THAT AGREE WITH US AS THE, THE NATURE OF THIS AND WHY IT SHOULD BE DENIED FROM AN OVERALL PERSPECTIVE. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, GETTING BACK TO THAT SECOND MEETING WE HAD ON, ON GILMAN ON MARCH 2ND, UH, WHERE WHIPPLE ROAD AGAIN WAS MENTIONED. 
          AND, UH, THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT, UH, SIDEWALKS AND, UH, STREETLIGHTS. 
          AND, UH, WE WERE CLEAR THAT, UH, WE NEEDED TIME TO CONSIDER OPTIONS. 
          AND, UH, WE ALSO WANT A TIME TO DISCUSS THINGS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A QUESTION THERE ABOUT THE STREETLIGHTS AND THE, THE ANSWER WAS, WELL, YOU JUST GOT TO SEND DOMINION A BILLING ADDRESS. 
          SO I ASKED A QUESTION, I SAID, WELL, WHAT BILLING ADDRESS ARE YOU GONNA USE? THE COUNTY MARKEL EAGLE. 
          I JUST CHECKED MARKEL IT'S MARKET CAP TODAY IS 18.6, $8 BILLION. 
          UH, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY, WELL, YEAH, WE'LL GIVE YOU STREET LIGHTS, BUT WHERE DO WE SEND THE BILL? NOW, MARKEL HAS NOW ESTABLISHED A HISTORY OF BLURRED INTENTIONS IN THIS STATE OF FACTS AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS, MEETING MINUTES, REZONING APPLICATIONS, REGIONAL NEW PRESENTATIONS. 
          NOW IN THE READER'S BRANCH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WEBSITE, WHICH WE'LL GET TO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE. 
          YEAH, THEY, THEY WENT AND THEY PUT STAKES OUT. 
          THIS IS BOBBY SMITH'S PROPERTY. 
          AS YOU KNOW, BOBBY HAS BEEN RECENTLY WIDOWED FROM HER, FROM HER HUSBAND WHO WAS ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS OF CENTERVILLE COMPANY, FIVE SAMMY SMITH, HER HOUSE, THE BACK OF IT'S ON WHIPPOORWILL. 
          IT FACES BROAD STREET ROAD. 
          AND THIS IS WHERE THE TURN LANE WOULD BE. 
          THEY DON'T TELL YOU THAT, WIDENING IT TO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS GOING TO BE A GREAT NEW AND IMPROVED WHATEVER WOOL ROAD COMES WITHIN FIVE FEET OF BOBBY'S BACK PORCH AND REMOVES THAT WHOLE LINE OF SHRUBS ON HER PROPERTY, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE EDGE OF WHIPPLE WILL ROADS. 
          NOW GOING TO BE LESS THAN FIVE FEET FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO HER HOUSE BECAUSE SHE PARKS ON LIVERPOOL ROAD. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT LAST MEETING, IT CAME TO US THAT ALL THEY WERE TO OFFER US WAS DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF LIPSTICK ON A PIG TURN LANE, SIDEWALK, STREET LIGHTS, VEGETATIVE BUFFER, WIDER, TWO LANES ON A FULL EASEMENT. 
          THE OVERWHELMING NOTE OF WHIPPOORWILL IS TO WHAT CONNECTION IS. 
          NO, WE DON'T WANT THE LIPSTICK. 
          WE DON'T WANT THE PIG. 
          ANY IDEA WHAT PIG LOOKS BETTER? OH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS VERSUS THE READER'S BRANCH REALITY, WE SHOWED YOU THEIR CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS FROM THE LAST PRESENTATION WHERE THEY SHOW THESE NICE, FREE STANDING, 50 SHADES OF GRAY SHACKS WITH NOTHING AROUND THEM. 
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WE SHOWED YOU HOW CLOSE TOGETHER THEY WERE ON READER'S BRANCH. 
          AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE EVEN CLOSER TOGETHER IN GILLMAN, ALSO IN THEIR PRESENTATION, THEY SHOW THE GILMAN TOWNHOUSE CLUSTERS OF FOUR, BUT THEY'RE REALLY CLUSTERS OF FIVE. 
          THEY SELECTIVELY QUOTE FROM THE SECONDARY STREET ACCEPTANCE REQUIREMENT, EXAMPLES FROM PAGES 15 AND 25, BUT THEY DON'T SHOW YOU 26 THAT WE FOUND THIS IS THE READER'S BRANCH HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WEBSITE. 
          AND THEY TALK ABOUT READER'S BRANCH FUTURE SECTIONS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, YOU TALKED ABOUT PUTTING LIPSTICK ON A PIG. 
          THEY REFER TO GILLMAN AS THE COMPLETION OF READERS BRANCH. 
          WELL, I THOUGHT READERS RANCH WAS ALREADY DONE AND APPROVED FOUR YEARS AGO, EXCUSE ME AGAIN, IN THEIR APPLICATIONS, BOTH FOR READERS, BRANCH, AND NOW FOR READERS BRANCH TO GILMAN, THEY CHECK THAT THEIR PLAN WELL IS BALANCED DEVELOPMENT THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND PRESERVE THIS RURAL CARER. 
          COME ON. 
          THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE APPLICATIONS BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT, THAT WAS THE SAME WAY THE APPLICATION WAS FILLED OUT FOR READERS BRANCH. 
          HOW WAS, HOW ARE THESE DEVELOPMENTS CONTRIBUTING TO THE RURAL CHARACTER OF OUR COUNTY? NOW THIS IS ALSO IN THEIR PACKAGE TONIGHT WHERE THEY SAY THE READER'S PARENTS SUBDIVISION LAXNESS, OR A SECOND ACCESS FOR THE NORTHERN PORTION OF DEVELOPMENT ACCESS PROVIDED THROUGH RIVERWOOD FROM HUMAN BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, AND THEN WROTE A, I TALK ABOUT ROAD A. 
          WELL, THE FIRST PART OF THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE STATEMENT IS NOT TRUE. 
          HOWEVER, THE SECOND SENTENCE CLEARLY ADDS THE EVIDENCE THAT MARK HILL EAGLE VIEWS GILLMAN AS THE FINAL SECTION OF THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED READER'S GRANT OF SUBDIVISION. 
          YOU KNOW, VISION WITHOUT EXECUTION IS A HALLUCINATION IN THE FUTURE ROAD. 
          A FIVE YEARS, 10 YEARS WROTE A NEEDS TO BE A REALITY FOR GILMAN. 
          AND IT'S NOT. 
          IT'S A HALLUCINATION. 
          YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME. 
          LOOK UP THOMAS EDISON AGAIN, MARK HILL EAGLES ESTABLISH A HISTORY OF BLURRED INTENTIONS, MISSTATED FACTS. 
          NOW I ASKED EVERYBODY WHAT HAPPENED HERE. 
          IF YOU LOOK HERE, OOPS, MY BAD HERE'S READER'S BRANCH HERE'S STUB ROAD TO THE EAST. 
          HERE IS HUMAN READERS RANCH TO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE STUB ROAD. 
          THEY SPLIT IT. 
          THEY SPLIT IT. 
          DID THEY PLAN TO SPLIT IT? THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY HAD ON THEIR ORIGINAL PLAN. 
          NOW IT'S EASY TO COME HERE AND COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, COMPLAIN, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IN DOING ALL THIS DIGGING AND FINDING OUT ALL THE DISINGENUOUS HALF-TRUTHS MISSTATED FACTS, OMITTED FACTS, SELECTED FACTS, THE MYSTERY'S APPEARANCE AND THE CURRENT VILMA PRO'S PLAN OF THE NECESSARY SECOND ACCESS FOR NORTHERN PORTION OF GILMAN APPEARS. 
          CAN I GET A WOW, ACTUALLY I WANT TO GIVE A WHILE TO MATT MCKINNEY. 
          CAUSE HE USED MICROSOFT PAINT. 
          LOOK AT THESE TWO DRAWINGS HERE. 
          NOTICE HOW WE HAVE THE ROADS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE A SOBRO. 
          THEY'VE NOW SPLIT. 
          LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ALIGN THEM LIKE THIS. 
          WE COME RIGHT IN TO GILLMAN WITHOUT USING WHIPPOORWILL. 
          AND HERE'S YOUR SECOND ACCESS RIGHT HERE TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS ROAD THAT THEY HAVE NOW MYSTERIOUSLY SPLIT. 
          THERE IS A PROPOSAL. 
          IT'S AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL. 
          IT MAY NOT BE RURAL. 
          YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT TO PACK, WELL, THEY WANT, THEY WANT TO COUNT THE ENTIRE ACREAGE FOR THE HUNDRED AND 22 DWELLINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND SAY WHAT THEY, WHAT, WHAT THE ACREAGE PEARL LOT IS. 
          BUT THE REALITY FROM THE GIS SHOWS YOU THAT THAT'S NOT IT. 
          I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT LEGAL SAYING? JUST BECAUSE IT'S LEGAL DOESN'T MEAN IT'S RIGHT. 
          SO IT'S LEGAL. 
          BUT TO THE SAME EXTENT THEY CAN HAVE 80 ACRES, 79 ACRES OF IT COULD BE SWAMP LAND. 
          THEY COULD COUNT THE 79 ACRES AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS RURAL STILL AND BUILD A 10 STORY SKYSCRAPER ON THE ACRE. 
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IS THAT RURAL? NOW I KNOW THAT'S THE ASSERT EXTREME. 
          MY POINT IS THE ORIGINAL ALTERNATIVE. 
          WE'VE GOT A COMPANY HERE WITH 18.6, $8 BILLION OF FINANCIAL WHEREWITHAL. 
          THE SEEM TO THINK WE'RE JUST PART OF THEIR CASH REGISTER. 
          SO I ASK YOU, I'M RUNNING AN ESTEEM HERE TO CONSIDER THE FACTS, TO CONSIDER THE COMMUNITY, TO CONSIDER A SANE ALTERNATIVE AND WELL, WHETHER YOU DENY IT AND THEY COME BACK WITH SOMETHING BETTER OR DIFFER AND THEY COME BACK OR SOMETHING, I'M WALFORD DEVELOPMENT. 
          I'M FOR DEVELOPMENT IN MY BACK YARD, NOT IN MY FRONT YARD THOUGH. 
          NOT IT DOES MEAN YOU HAVE A MINUTE LEFT WHERE MY DONE, JUST STICKING ME BEFORE I'M OUT. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? OH, HERE'S MY WRAP UP. 
          WE TOOK THIS CANDID PICTURE OF THE FIRST LADY OF WHIPPOORWILL SHIRLEY SHANER, WHO WAS RAISED ON THE STREET, GRADUATED FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL, IN THIS VERY ROOM, ENJOYING HER RETIREMENT WITH HER DAILY CONSTITUTIONAL ON WHIPPOORWILL ROAD, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE BY ALL THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND CLEARING AT THE END, ISN'T AS RURAL ANYMORE. 
          BUT AT LEAST IT'S SAFE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND GOD BLESS GOOCHLAND COUNTY. 
          THANK YOU MS. SMITH. 
          HER GOOD JOB. 
          OH, ANY QUESTIONS I'M HAPPY TO SHARE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CASHIN. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS ROBIN  AND I LIVE AT 1, 2, 3 8 5 SOUTH READER'S CIRCLE IN READER'S BRANCH. 
          SOME OF THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN STATED, BUT ANYWAY, I'M GOING OVER IT AGAIN. 
          THE APRIL, 2018 REZONING FOR READERS BRANCH SUBDIVISION PERMITTED 303 HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES. 
          THE NEW PROPOSAL FOR THE GILMAN PROPERTY IS REQUESTING 122 HOMES. 
          32 OF WHICH WILL BE TOWN HOMES. 
          THE INCREASE NUMBER OF HOMES WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON TRAFFIC, THROUGH READERS, BRANCH BOULEVARD AND WHIP WHEEL ROAD. 
          INCLUSION OF THE TOWNHOMES WILL FUNDAMENTALLY ALTER THE CHARACTERISTICS OR THE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, DETACHED HOME NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WILL COMPROMISE THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF READER'S BRANCH. 
          I HAVE A NEWSPAPER ARTICLE IT'S FROM THE HOME SECTION, UM, OF THE TIMES DISPATCH AND IT'S DATED FEBRUARY 19TH, 2022. 
          AND IN THIS HOME SECTION, UM, EAGLE IS, IS, UH, IS FEATURED, BUT READER'S BRANCH IS ALSO FEATURED AND THE HOMES THAT ARE SHOWING IN READER'S BRANCH, IT SHOWS THE TOWN, THE CLUBHOUSE, BUT IT ALSO SHOWS THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES. 
          ALSO IN THIS ARTICLE, IT STATES THAT THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT WILL HAVE 300 HOMES. 
          NOW THIS IS IN THE HOME SECTION OF THE TIMES, DISPATCH FEBRUARY 20, 22. 
          UNFORTUNATELY THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT IN SECTIONS ONE, TWO AND THREE, WEREN'T TOLD THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE THIS GILMAN PROPERTY, THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE AN EXTRA 122 HOMES WITH TOWNHOMES. 
          WE WERE TOLD 303 HOMES, BUT, UM, I REALLY OBJECT TO THE TOWNHOMES IS GOING TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          WE ARE NOT A TOWNHOME COMMUNITY WHERE A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IF WE HAD WANTED TOWNHOMES, WE COULD HAVE GONE FURTHER DOWN HOCKETT ROAD AND GOTTEN INTO ANOTHER TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. 
          I URGE YOU NOT TO APPROVE THE REZONING AS PROPOSED, BUT TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF HOMES AND TO, AND IF YOU DO APPROVE IT, UM, TO REMOVE THE INCLUSION OF THE TOWNHOMES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          MY NAME IS DR. 
          LESLIE WELCH AND I LIVE AT 1586 WHIPPOORWILL ROAD. 
          YOU KNOW, THE DRIVE FROM WHIPPOORWILL TO HERE AS BEAUTIFUL 
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COMING FROM BROAD STREET WHERE IT SAYS WELCOME TO GOOCHLAND COUNTY, STARTING TO GET SCARY. 
          AND YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL ROLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SET PRECEDENCE. 
          IF YOU ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN, THERE ARE MANY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LIVED THERE A LONG TIME. 
          MANY OF US ARE NEW. 
          WHAT WE MOVED THERE FOR THE ROLE EXISTENCE OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          IF YOU LIVED ON THAT NEIGHBOR, IN THAT, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK YOU WOULD BE STANDING HERE AS WELL. 
          IT'S DANGEROUS. 
          DON'T DO IT. 
          IT'S THE EASY CHOICE IS THE LESS EXPENSIVE CHOICE, BUT IT'S NOT THE RIGHT CHOICE. 
          AND I URGE YOU TO CHOOSE THE RIGHT CHOICE AND FIND ANOTHER WAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO. 
          I KNOW IT'S NOT EASY. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO ADD MY VOICE. 
          UH, ROBERT DAUGHTRY, UH, 1, 2, 3 85 SOUTH READER CIRCLE LIKE THE JOIN, MY WIFE AND OPPOSITION TO TOWNHOMES REDIS BRANCHES. 
          THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE. 
          UM, THE GILMAN PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT, UH, INJECTS A NEW ELEMENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF THE TOWNHOMES. 
          IF YOU DO APPROVE THE PROJECT AND YOU DO APPROVE THE TOWNHOME PORTION, MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO URGE YOU TO, UM, ASK FOR A DESIGN CHANGE FOR THE FRONT-LOADING GARAGE UNITS. 
          THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNITS. 
          ONE HAS REAR LOADING GARAGES. 
          THE OTHER HAS, PARDON ME HAS FRONT-LOADING GARAGES FROM AN ARCHITECTURAL STANDPOINT, A TWO DOOR FRONT LOADING GARAGE WITH THE TINY LITTLE FRONT DOOR TO THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT SAYS WHEN YOU DRIVE UP TO IT, WELCOME TO MY GARAGE, NOT WELCOME TO MY HOME. 
          AND SO I WOULD JUST URGE YOU TO, UH, REQUIRE REAR LOADING GARAGES FOR ALL OF THE TOWNHOMES. 
          SHOULD THAT BE APPROVED? THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. DAUGHTRY. 
          HEY, GOOD EVENING. 
          HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING GOOD? UH, WELL, UM, DANNY NAMAN 1 5, 7, 2 WHIPPLE RAILROAD. 
          UM, AND SAME AS THE ME THAT Y'ALL HAVE A REALLY EASY DECISION TO MAKE TONIGHT BASED ON THE FACTS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU. 
          UM, I HOPE YOU, YOU MAKE THAT CHOICE AND DENY THIS PROPOSAL. 
          UM, I HATE TO SEE PEOPLE NEGOTIATING WITH YOU GUYS AND PUT THIS GARAGE SMALLER. 
          UM, THIS WHOLE PROPOSAL JUST SHOULD BE WASHED AND AT, AT THE VERY LEAST, THE LOT SIZES, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT LAND EVENTUALLY, BUT THE LOT SIZES ARE SMALLER THAN READERS ALREADY TO JUST KEEP THEM SMALLER AND SMALLER. 
          UM, I LIVE IN GOOCHLAND BECAUSE IT'S A RURAL AREA. 
          UM, I KNOW MY FRIENDS DO AS WELL, AND I FAIR TO SAY THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE CITIZENS OF GOOCHLAND LIVE HERE FOR THAT REASON. 
          UM, THAT'S ALL I GOT. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME. 
          GOD BLESSED. 
          THANK YOU, MR. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANYBODY ELSE. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GOING TO BE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THIS TIME. 
          I'D LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF HE'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND ADDRESS ANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'M GOOD. 
          NATALIE CROFT. 
          UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE, I HEARD A LOT AND I'M SURE YOU DID TOO, WAS THAT, UM, THIS IS A RURAL AREA. 
          MANY AREAS OF THE COUNTY ARE DESIGNATED FOR RURAL ENHANCEMENT. 
          THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THE COUNTIES, DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS. 
          IT'S A VILLAGE, IT'S A MAJOR VILLAGE IN THE COMP PLAN. 
          IT'S WHERE THE COUNTY'S GROWTH SHOULD BE DIRECTED AND FOCUSED, UM, CONCENTRATING GROWTH IN THESE SPECIFIC AREAS. 
          LIKE THE VILLAGES ACTUALLY HELPED KEEP THE RURAL AREAS RURAL BY DIRECTING THE GROWTH TO SMALLER LOCATIONS. 
          UH, STRATEGIC GOAL. 
          NUMBER TWO IN THE STAFF REPORT TALKS ABOUT THAT THIS, THIS HELPS ACHIEVE THAT STRATEGIC 
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GOAL. 
          NUMBER TWO, UM, BALANCED DEVELOPMENT THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND PRESERVES ITS RURAL CHARACTER. 
          AGAIN, THIS IS A VILLAGE. 
          SO BY FOCUSING THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREAS WHERE THE COUNTY HAS SAID, THEY WANT THE DEVELOPMENT TO GO HELPS RELIEVE SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE IN THE RURAL AREAS AND THEY STAY RURAL. 
          UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VALIDITY OF THE V DOT STATEMENT THAT WE PULLED FROM THE SSIR REGULATIONS. 
          WE MET WITH V DOT. 
          WE MET WITH THE DOT END STAFF AND BEAT OUT MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, CONFIRMED TO US AND TO STAFF THAT THAT CONNECTION WOULD BE REQUIRED. 
          UM, THEY REVIEW OUR REZONING APPLICATIONS AS WELL. 
          AND, UM, THERE WAS NEVER ANY MENTION OF AN UNSAFE CONNECTION BEING MADE, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE TOWNHOMES COMP PLAN ALSO NOTED THE VILLAGE AREAS ARE THE PLACES WHERE THIS DIVERSE HOUSING OPTIONS SHOULD BE LOCATED. 
          UM, THESE ARE TWO STORY TOWN HOMES, NOT THREE STORY TOWN HOMES. 
          THERE WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY AS TALL AS A TWO STORY HOME. 
          UM, WE HAVE DESIGNED THEM TO BE VERY COMPATIBLE AND COHESIVE WITH THE EXISTING HOMES AND THE HOPEFULLY FUTURE HOMES THAT WE BUILD IN READERS BRANCH. 
          UM, READER'S BRANCH DOES NOT HAVE ALL SIDELOADED GARAGES. 
          IT'S AN AGE TARGETED NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, NOT AGE RESTRICTED. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT THE HOMES WE'RE PROPOSING ARE DISSIMILAR TO WHAT IS OUT THERE. 
          UM, AGAIN, IN CLOSING, THIS IS A VILLAGE AREA. 
          UH, WE ARE PROPOSING THINGS THAT ARE IN LINE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THINGS THAT ALIGN WITH THE GOALS OF THE COMP PLAN, UM, WITH REGARD TO DENSITY, WITH REGARD TO HOUSING TYPE, WITH REGARD TO PET PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY. 
          AND AGAIN, V DOT HAS WEIGHED IN ON THIS PROPOSAL AND HAS NOTED THEIR REQUIREMENT TO CONNECT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. CROFT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          BOARD AND YOU DISCUSSIONS OR MOTIONS MR. HANKINS? NO. 
          CAN STAFF, UH, CAN, WELL, UH, I DON'T KNOW. 
          YEAH, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO CHANGE THE SCREEN, BUT I'LL HAVE THE EXHIBITS, THE EXHIBITS THAT WERE A PART OF THIS. 
          I THINK IT WOULD CHANGE THE SCREEN AS WELL. 
          I KNOW IT COULD, BUT THE PRESENTATION IS DONE, BUT THAT'S A GOOD ONE TO KEEP UP TO DATE. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN WE CAN BACK, I JUST WANT TO SHOW US WHERE THE TOWN DON'T SHOW US AGAIN WHERE THE TOWN IS. 
          GOOD. 
          THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S MONDAY TEMPLATE BACK TO YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          SO, UH, CASH WILL PROBABLY STAND THERE. 
          EXHIBIT THE EXHIBITS IN OUR PACKAGE. 
          THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED. 
          I KNOW CROPS HAVE CHANGED, BUT EXHIBIT B AND EXHIBIT C THE ELEVATIONS, THOSE, THOSE ARE THE SAME AND THEY'VE BEEN CONSISTENT FOR AWHILE AND THE APPLICANT HASN'T CHANGED THOSE. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          COULD YOU SHOW US YOUR DIAGRAM WHERE THAT, WHEREAS THE TOWNHOMES ARE GOING TO BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT CERTAINLY CAN WHERE THEIR PROPOSED I CAN HEAD THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          I WILL SAY NOW I'M BACK. 
          SO IT'S THIS CENTRAL AREA HERE. 
          THAT'S ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE FUTURE COLLECTOR ROAD. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE ARE POTENTIALLY WOULD, UM, BE ALLEY LOADED. 
          UM, THAT DEPENDS REALLY ON THE, THE CONCEPT OF DEPTH OF WHAT THEY'RE ABLE TO ESTABLISH STERN, UM, PANDA DEVELOPMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, SO THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND SO THAT IF THEY WERE TO COME BACK AND REARRANGE THINGS, A CHILD THAT MOVED THE TOWNHOMES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ROAD DAY, THAT, THAT YO Y'ALL STAFF WOULD TREAT THAT AS LIKE, NO, THAT'S NOT IN ACCORDANCE TO, UH, YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH CHANGE. 
          NOW, IF THEY SORT OF SHIFTED THEM THEM AROUND AND THERE, THEY WEREN'T THAT EXACT CONFIGURATION THAT'S PRETTY CONSISTENT. 
          I THINK IF THEY GOT CLOSER TO ROAD DAY, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO REVISIT AND PUT THEM ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DAY. 
          AND I THINK MS LAST NIGHT WAS ASKING ABOUT BUFFERS AND THIS GETS ME THINKING ABOUT BUFFERS. 
          ARE, ARE THOSE BUFFERS THAT YOU SEE BETWEEN ROAD A AND THE TOWNHOMES AND THE OTHER HOMES TO THE EAST ARE THOSE, THOSE ARE IN OUR, UM, 
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NUMBER SIX BUFFERS, RIGHT? UH, RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED IS, UM, UH, I BELIEVE A 50 FOOT BUFFER ON BOTH SIDES OF, OF THAT ROAD DAY. 
          UM, THEY'VE ALSO WORKED IN WITH, UM, WITH US. 
          WE ASKED FOR AN UPGRADED, UM, LANDSCAPING PROVISION ALONG THAT AREA. 
          UM, BUT AGAIN, TO PROTECT THOSE FUTURE HOMEOWNERS, UH, FELL ON THAT PROPERTY, MR. JOE, HE WAS SHOWING THIS LAST GLENN ALRIGHT, MR. CASH. 
          SO IN READING, UM, PROPER NUMBER FOUR DENSITY, IT SEEMS A BIT CONFUSING TO ME NO MORE THAN 122 SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY. 
          NO MORE THAN 32 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING SHALL BE ATTACHED. 
          I THOUGHT A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WAS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING. 
          SO THAT, THAT SENTENCE IS CONFUSING ME. 
          SO HOW HAS SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ATTACH? SO, UH, BASIC, SO IT'S CALLED FOR 122 DWELLING UNITS, TOTAL 32 OF WHICH CAN BE ATTACHED. 
          UM, TRADITIONALLY PEOPLE WOULD REFER TO THIS AS TOWNHOUSES. 
          UM, SO BASICALLY THEY SHARE A WALL. 
          YEAH, I KNOW AT TOWNHOUSES, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IT DOES IT, THEY'RE CALLING THEM A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS THEY'RE ATTACHED TO NOT SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS, ARE THEY, UH, THAT THEY ARE, UM, SO THE SINGLE PHONE TOIL AND, UH, UNDER OUR WORD NETS, YOU COULD HAVE ATTACHED OR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE WAY THIS IS WORDED A THIRD, THEY COULD BE 32 IN A ROW, RIGHT? WELL, 32 COULD BE ATTACHED, UM, AS FAR AS ROW, UM, THAT WOULD FIRST OFF, UH, WE WOULDN'T, IT'S NOT REALLY WHISPER POSED HERE THERE A LOT, BE CONCERNED FOR THAT BECAUSE YOU END UP, UM, HAVING PROBLEMS WITH FIRE ABOUT THE WAY TO GET AROUND THE BUILDINGS. 
          SO THEY MOST OFTEN, AND THIS, AND I'D PROBABLY HAVE TO DEFER TO JAMIE, NOT SURE HOW MANY LIMITS ATTACHED. 
          UM, BUT WITH THE APPLICANTS PREPARES IN HERE IS A MAXIMUM OF FIVE ATTACHED, UM, AND THEIR LAYOUTS. 
          AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BORROW. 
          THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE LIMITATION OF FIVE. 
          UM, NO, NOT ACCORDING TO THIS. 
          AND I WOULD JUST HAVE TO REFRESH MY MEMORY ON WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS. 
          I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE LIMITATION SAYS. 
          WE ARE REQUIRED BY THE PROFFERS MS. LASKA LETTER, IF YOU CONSIDER THE FACT THAT PROFITABLE, PARDON ME, WHICH IS THIS. 
          AND SO THEY COULDN'T ATTACH 32 OF THEM. 
          CAUSE THAT WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN. 
          AGAIN, WOULDN'T BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN. 
          IT'S CONCEPTUAL SHOWS FIVE IN THIS CASE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT WE REFER TO. 
          UM, I'LL SAY THERE ENDS UP BEING, UH, CERTAIN PROVISIONS, UH, FOR FIRE TO BEING ABLE TO GET AROUND THROUGH BUILDING AND THE BUILDING FIELD TO GET TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDINGS, UM, SOME MISSED OFF. 
          AND IN MY EXPERIENCE WE'LL ALSO USE AS A LIMITATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THEY WOULD BE LIMITED TO FIVE RIGHT. 
          BASED UPON THIS CONCEPTUAL, THANK YOU. 
          MR. PETERSON. 
          THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. 
          MS. CASTRO. 
          NOPE, NO, GO AWAY. 
          NICE TRY. 
          NICE TRY. 
          UH, IT APPEARS TO ME THAT TWO PEOPLE CAN LOOK AT THE SAME THING AND SEE IT DIFFERENTLY. 
          UM, I'VE HEARD THIS IS VERY UNSAFE. 
          I'VE HEARD IT'S VERY SAFE. 
          UM, SO STAFF, YOU HAVEN'T WEIGHED IN, ON, IN THE SAFE 25 MILES AN HOUR THROUGH A RESIDENTIAL AREA. 
          IS THIS CONSIDERED ANY MORE OR LESS SAFE THAN THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS AROUND IT WITH A 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED AT NIGHT? UM, BASED UPON THE TIA THAT WAS PERFORMED, TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UM, THAT WAS THEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH V NOT AS WELL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ADD, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL TRIPS, OF COURSE, THAT COME ABOUT ON THE ROAD, UM, IT'S NOT MAKING IT PASS INTO ANY OTHER TYPE OF ROAD CATEGORY. 
          UM, SO NO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT DIDN'T REACH THE THRESHOLD WHERE, YOU KNOW, TRANSPLANT OUR, OUR STAFF EVALUATION AS WELL AS THE DOTS THAT THERE APPEARED TO BE CHANGED AND CHANGING THIS TO AN UNSAFE CONDITION. 
          UM, SO, UH, I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE OFTEN SEE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE I NEED TO BALANCE WHAT COMES IN AND UTILIZE HIS THEME, THE ROAD. 
          AND THAT'S PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS HAD BEEN, THAT DOES HAVE, AS WELL AS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU HAVE TO REACH A CERTAIN THRESHOLD FOR THIS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, BUT I MEAN, WE, WE HAD TO BE EVALUATED BASED UPON THE IMPACT THAT'S PROVIDED THROUGH THE, THE ADDITIONAL TRIPS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S CREATED UNSAFE CONDITION. 
          UM, I THINK PART OF THE, WHAT THE, WHEN THE STAFF FIRST SAW THIS, WE ALSO WANT IT TO SEE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROAD WAY 
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BECAUSE IT IS AN OLDER ROAD. 
          UM, SO POTENTIALLY THAT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDITIONAL VEHICLES GOING DOWN THAT ROAD DAILY, UM, WE WOULD HOPE THAT THERE'D BEEN AN UPGRADE PAVEMENTS RATHER THAN THE CONTINUAL DETERIORATION OF WHAT THE PAVEMENT THEN HAS BEEN. 
          IT'S ALLIGATORS, ALLIGATORS IN CERTAIN AREAS. 
          THAT'S, IT'S AN OLDER ROAD. 
          I PROBABLY HASN'T HAD THE ATTENTION IT DESERVED, UM, FOR THE PAVEMENT. 
          UM, BUT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE BEING MADE, WE FELT IT WAS STILL REMAIN A SAFE CONDITION. 
          SO IS THERE ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL THAT RAISES SAFETY CONCERNS WHERE YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY? UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY FROM THE COMMUNITY WAS PROUD OF ABOUT THE ACCESS OR THE BEING ABLE TO WALK ALONG THAT ROADWAY, UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY FOR HAVING SOME OTHER SIDEWALK OR OTHER PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID HAVE THE CONVERSATION AGAIN WITH THE.TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WAS REMAINING AT 25 FOOT, I MEAN, 25 MILE AN HOUR, UM, AREA, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ADDRESSED AND POSTED. 
          I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD, UH, THEY CAN ALSO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS OF EDA TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S POSTED PROPERLY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          AND THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS PROVIDED THOSE TO TRY TO IMPROVE THE STACKING CONDITION WITH THE LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES, UM, OR REALLY THE RE STRIPING OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT SORT OF TRAFFIC IS FLOWING OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER, UM, AND NOT PUT ADDITIONAL BURDENS OF WAIT TIMES AND STUFF ON THE EXISTING RESIDENCE. 
          OKAY. 
          IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS, BUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IS UNSAFE FOR THIS. 
          UH, OUR EVALUATION IS THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN THAT IT WAS CREATING AN UNSAFE CONDITION, UM, OR B THAT DID NOT ARRIVE AT THAT CONCLUSION EITHER. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THAT'S PROBABLY ENOUGH ON THAT ONE. 
          LET'S TRY THE OTHER ONE THAT TWO PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT AND SEE IT DIFFERENTLY. 
          UM, I'VE HEARD THAT THIS IS RURAL AND I'VE HEARD THIS IS ANYTHING, BUT, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE COMP PLAN CALLS FOR SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. 
          WAS THAT, UH, THAT THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IT DOES COME FOR A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL ON, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UH, THE GILMAN PROPERTY, THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, HOLD THAT MAP UP. 
          IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MAPS I THINK, OF THE PRESENTATION SO THEY CAN SEE THE OTHER ONE MORE FORWARD. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, CHOSE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. 
          UM, AND SO THIS WOULD COMPLY WITH THAT UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHAT'S PROPOSED. 
          UM, THERE IS COMMERCIAL THAT'S PROPOSED IN THE NORTH AND THEN DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH AS THE PRIMARY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROPERTY OF WHICH ONCE ZONED, UM, MANUFACTURED AT THIS POINT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO WHAT WOULD BE THE, IF HE COULD HELP ME WITH THIS, WHAT WOULD BE SOME OF THE SUBTLE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN A RURAL RESIDENTIAL OFFSITE VERSUS A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL? I MEAN, UM, AND PART FOR THE DENSITY, UM, A RURAL AREA ALSO, YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT WE DON'T, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE PUBLIC FACILITIES WITH WATER AND SEWER THAT WE, THAT WE'VE, UM, THE COUNTY HAS INVESTED FOR THIS AREA. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE RURAL CHARACTER YOU WOULD TYPICALLY, AND IN HERE, YOU'D PROBABLY SEE A LOT OF ACRE. 
          I MEAN, LOTS, PROBABLY LARGER THAN, UM, TWO ACRES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE IT WOULD VARY, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS SCENARIO, THIS, THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY HAS SORT OF BEEN SET UP FOR FUTURE GROWTH. 
          UM, AND AT THE SAY THE WIPRO WAS NOT A TYPICAL, UM, SUBURB, MORE SUBURBAN TYPE OF SUBDIVISION AND ITS LAYOUT FOR ITS TIME PERIOD. 
          UM, AND THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AROUND IT THAT ARE SIMILAR IN SIZE AND CHARACTER. 
          SO THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEFORE US TODAY FOR CONSIDERATION WOULD BE CONSIDERED CONSISTENT WITH A SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL, BUT NOT CONSISTENT WITH RURAL, RIGHT. 
          IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CONFLICT WITH WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CALLS FOR IN THIS AREA AND BE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL, WHICH PROVIDES FOR THE RPD ZONING THAT WE'VE GOT PROPOSED BEFORE US. 
          OKAY. 
          AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS IN THE VILLAGE BOUNDARY, CORRECT? THIS IS WITHIN THE CENTERVILLE BOUNDARY. 
          UM, IT'S GENERALLY AT THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF IT. 
          UM, AND SO THIS IS AN AREA, OF COURSE THAT'S UNDER EVALUATION. 
          UM, CURRENTLY THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EXERCISE, I THINK WE'VE GOT COMMERCIAL. 
          IT LOOKS LIKE TO THE NORTH AND THEN TO THE SOUTH WAS, UM, PRIME, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, PROPOSAL. 
          SO THAT'S AN AREA THAT WE ANTICIPATE TO HAVE, UM, INVESTMENT, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL OFFICE, UM, MORE, MORE COMMERCIAL RELATED THAN RESIDENTIAL SEVEN WITH THE ROADWAY, THE INTENTIONAL DEVELOPMENT, UM, TO THE SOUTH AND BOTH TO THE 
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NORTH. 
          YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN AREA THAT THE COUNTY IS, HAS ANTICIPATED TO HAVE, UM, MORE INTENSE FOR A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          LAST QUESTION. 
          AND WE'LL TRY AND WRAP THIS LAND, THIS PLANE, UM, THE ROAD A, THAT GOES NORTH AND SOUTH. 
          UM, I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, IT'LL, IT'LL BE HERE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, AND I'VE HEARD IT. 
          IT'LL NEVER COME ILLUSION. 
          WASN'T SOMETHING, IT WAS WHATEVER THOMAS EDISON CALLED IT. 
          UH, SO IF, IF YOU HAD TO CHARACTERIZE GENERALLY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE THERE IN OUR LIFETIMES OR IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WILL NEVER BE THERE AS AN ILLUSION, AS EASY AS IT MUST BE? I SEE ALL COLORS. 
          UM, COULD YOU KIND OF CHARACTERIZE, OOPS. 
          SOMEBODY TRIED THE SAME STUFF. 
          CAN YOU, UM, CAN YOU MAYBE JUST CHARACTERIZE JUST GENERALLY, I'M NOT ASKING FOR SPECIFICS, BUT SOME OF THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS THAT RHODA IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          SOME I'VE HEARD IT'S, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ANYTIME. 
          WHAT ARE THE DEVELOPMENTAL PRESSURES LIKE IN THAT AREA IS THAT, UM, SO STAFF FREQUENTLY MEETS WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE SEEKING TO DEVELOP A TYPICALLY HIGHER DENSITY, UM, DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THIS AREA. 
          UM, METASTATIC OFTEN AS I'M SURE THE BOARD OF AREAS AND THE STAFF, AND WE'RE HERE FOR HIGHER DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL, UM, THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH THROUGH WHICH ROAD DAY WOULD NEED TO EXTEND, UM, IS CALLED FOR A COMMERCIAL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL EVALUATE THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE IS EXTREME ECONOMIC, UM, THE END DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE AND THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND I THINK THE SPORT AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, STAFF WITH THE SPORTS DIRECTION WORK OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S A GOOD DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THAT MATCHES THE PLAN AND WOULD, UM, BE OF VALUE, UM, TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I GIVE YOU A TIMELINE, BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT ZONING ACTIONS GOING TO BE ON THESE ADJACENT PROPERTIES WITHIN HERE WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, UM, WHEN THE ROAD GETS BUILT THROUGH THAT PHASING, UM, I WOULD EXPECT IT AND, AND THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, UM, LIKELY, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY THROUGH THE WAY WE DO THINGS DEVELOPMENT DOES ITS IMPROVEMENTS, AS IT GOES FORWARD TO WHOEVER DEVELOPS THAT PIECE DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH OF THE GILMAN TRACK WILL NEED TO EXTEND ROAD A, OUT TO BROAD STREET TO RECEIVE OUR APPROVAL. 
          AND THERE'LL BE DISCLOSURE THAT ROAD WILL LEAD TO COMMERCIAL UP NORTH AND PRIME ECONOMIC YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          TO THE SOUTH. 
          RIGHT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE INTENTION IS IN THE FUTURE. 
          THIS IS, YOU KNOW, CAUSE THE BYPASS TO HOCHIN AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO IMPROVE THE CONNECTIVITY HERE FOR THE FULL AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL THOSE ANSWERS. 
          I TAUGHT FRENCH. 
          IT'S VERY HELPFUL. 
          SO THANK YOU MR. SHARP AND MR. CASH, IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK, YOU CHANGED, WHICH ONE WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO BACK TO GO BACK ONE, ONE MORE, GO BACK TO THE COMMERCIAL AND SORRY ABOUT THAT RIGHT THERE. 
          SO THE COMMERCIAL AREA HAS JUST RECENTLY BEEN SOLD, CORRECT. 
          BUT FOR ROAD EIGHT, TO BE DONE THE PARCEL AT THE TOP, WHICH I THINK IS 1500 ACRES THAT HAS TO BE DEVELOPED TO, UH, UH, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S TO DEVELOPED OR SOLD OR ALLOW CONNECTION THROUGH THAT, THROUGH THAT ROAD TO THE NORTH. 
          ANYBODY MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT THAT PARCEL? UM, WELL I KNOW THE, THE, UH, THE ONE THAT'S THE LARGEST PIECE WAS PURCHASED AT AUCTION RECENTLY. 
          UM, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I STILL BELIEVE, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ONE THAT COMES ACROSS HAS BEEN SOLD. 
          UM, YEAH, THIS I'LL USE MY POINTER HERE. 
          SO HERE'S THE ONE THAT WENT TO AUCTION. 
          AND THEN THIS PIECE RIGHT HERE, THE RED KIND OF DISAPPEARS IS WHERE WE EXPECT THAT THE ROAD CONNECTION WOULD COME UP THROUGH HERE. 
          SO IF THAT'S, SO IF THAT'S MADE COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW, WHERE WOULD THE ACCESS BE TO GET OUT OF THERE IT'S LANDLOCKED, UH, RIGHT. 
          IT NEEDS THAT CONNECTION OUT TO BROAD STREET FOR IT TO DEVELOP AT THIS POINT, IT NEEDS, IT NEEDS AN ACCESS. 
          NOW THERE ARE, UM, OTHER ALTERNATIVES POTENTIALLY IF THEY ACCESS HERE, BUT PRIMARILY WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THEM BUILD THAT ROAD DAY. 
          SO THIS PIECE IS GOING TO NEED A CONNECTION THROUGH THAT PIECE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THEIR KIND OF LAND. 
          THERE ARE SOME ARE LANDLOCKED. 
          THEY DO HAVE, UM, THE ABILITY IT'S PERSONALLY OWNED, UM, DOES EXISTING RIGHT OF WAYS, BUT THEN THE WIPRO, WELL ROAD NEIGHBORHOOD THERE, BUT THE ROADS ARE UNIMPROVED AND WE WOULDN'T SEEK COMMERCIAL TO BE COMING BACK THROUGH THAT WAY PRIMARILY. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          IT COULD BE RIGHT. 
          IT'S KIND OF DEPEND UPON THE NEIGHBORS WORKING 
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WITH EACH OTHER, I GUESS, A ADJACENT BUSINESSES WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THAT DEVELOPED. 
          UM, SO THAT'S WHY I CAN'T GUARANTEE A DATE. 
          THE GILMAN PROPERTY WAS NOT PART OF THE ORIGINAL RAIDERS BRANCH PROPERTY THAT CAME LATER. 
          THAT WASN'T A PART OF THE, IS THERE ANY TALK OF GILMAN BACK WHEN THAT WAS FIRST? YOU KNOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE ORIGINAL, UM, METERS DID NOT INVOLVE THE GILMAN PROPERTY, UM, IN THE ZONING THAT GOT APPROVED IN 2018 DID NOT INVOLVE THE GILMAN PROPERTY. 
          SO THAT CAME ALONG LATER, RIGHT? THIS IS, UH, YEAH, THIS IS JASON OTHER FURTHER DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND, UM, I IMAGINE TO GO BACK THROUGH MY NOTES HERE, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WAS ESTABLISHED, WHO ESTABLISHED, WHO, WHO DECIDES A RIGHT AWAY WHEN A ROAD IS BUILT, UM, TYPICALLY THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR LOCALITY WILL ESTABLISHMENT OR V DOT, UM, WELL ESTABLISHED STATE, THE TYPICAL RIGHT OF WAY WITH, AND THE TYPE OF ROAD THAT SHOULDN'T BE BUILT AS FAR AS ROAD CLASSIFICATION, UM, 50 AND GOODSON IS THE MOST COMMON AND IT'S OUR BASE REQUIREMENT IS 50 FEET OF RIGHT. 
          OF WAY. 
          SO THAT'S ON ANY, UH, RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          IF YOU'RE DOING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE GOING TO ASK THAT 50 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY ROAD IS, UH, 25 FEET FROM THE CENTER LINE EITHER WAY, 50 FEET FULL RIGHT. 
          OF WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THE PURPOSE FOR THAT IS WHAT, UM, THE ONE 50 FEET GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IN HOW YOU PLACE YOUR PAVEMENT DESIGN, ESPECIALLY IF YOU END UP, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PAVEMENT DESIGNS. 
          IF 50 ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE YOU CAN GET OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THERE, SUCH AS DITCH LINES, UM, WHERE, OR WHERE APPROPRIATE, YOU CAN GET YOUR SIDEWALKS AND THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT, YOU KNOW, MY EXPERIENCE OF DEVELOPMENT, IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST COMMON PUT FORWARD AS A, UH, 50 FEET RIGHT AWAY FOR THE EXACT REASON. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND YOU COULD LOOK THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, YOU'LL SEE 50 FEET COMES ABOUT EVEN WITHIN PRIVATE AGREEMENT, PRIVATE ROAD AGREEMENTS, BUT AS WELL AS, ESPECIALLY IN THE PUBLIC WORD DEVELOPMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MR. CASH, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS FOR YOU OR FOR THE APPLICANT. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I SAW IN THE PRESENTATION THAT I QUESTIONED WAS THE PICTURE SHOWN, UM, OF MS. SMITH'S HOME WITH THE FIVE, THE ROAD FIVE FEET FROM THE PUMPKIN. 
          CAN SOMEBODY SPEAK TO THAT FOR ME? CAUSE, UM, I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE APPLICANT HAD THE PICTURES OF THE, UM, THE AREA OF THE ROADWAY. 
          UM, THEY MIGHT HAVE AN IMAGE FOR IT. 
          I WOULDN'T HAVE AN IMAGE THAT DISPLAYS THAT THIS MS. SMITH'S PROPERTY, THE ONE DIRECTLY AT BROAD STREET, I THINK IT WAS MISSED MR. MCDERMOTT'S PRESENTATION. 
          THERE WAS THE ENGINEERING STAKE AND THE SOME SORT OF ROAD WAS GOING TO BE WITHIN FIVE FEET OF HER HOUSE DAMAGES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, SURE. 
          UH, BRIAN METRO TOWN SITE ENGINEERING, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UH, SO WE SENT OUR FIELD CREWS OUT THERE, OUR SURVEY FIELD CREWS, AND WE STAKED OUT THE RIGHT OF WAY UP AND DOWN WHIPPLE WHERE ROADS. 
          SO IN DOING THAT, WHAT WE DO IS, UH, WE CERTAINLY HAVE THE PLATS, UH, AND THEN WE LOCATED THE PROPERTY CORNERS AT THE FRONT OF EVERYBODY'S LOT, YOU KNOW, AT THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE. 
          UM, I THINK, WELL, MAYBE WE CAN GET THE PICTURE UP HERE SO I CAN TRY TO SPEAK TO IT. 
          I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT HOUSE IS, BUT WHAT WE DID IS WE WOULD HAVE LOCATED THE PROPERTY CORNERS AND THEN PUT STAKES AND FLAGS OUT. 
          YOU'RE BORROWING. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THE HOUSE WE SHOWED THE PICTURE OF IS RIGHT HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          GOT IT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO HERE'S WHY IT SHOWS WHY I UNDERSTAND. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO THE PICTURE, UH, THAT HE, UH, UH, HAD ON THE SCREEN, UH, HER HOUSE IS AT THE INTERSECTION OF WHIPPOORWILL AND, UH, BROAD STREET. 
          SO IT IS THE HOUSE ON THE CORNER OF WHIPPLE, WILLA AND BROAD, AS YOU KNOW, UM, BROAD STREET HAS BEEN WIDE AND A NUMBER OF TIMES, UH, AND UH, IN THAT AREA, UH, ADDITIONAL, UH, RIGHT OF WAY, UH, FOR THE BROAD, VERY WIDE NAME WAS TAKEN. 
          SO IT IS NOT 50 FEET, RIGHT. 
          IN THAT CORNER, UH, VIETNAM, WHEN THEY DID THE WIDENING, THEY DID SOME IMPROVEMENTS RIGHT THERE AT THE INTERSECTION OF WHAT OIL YOU CAN SEE WITH THE CURVE RETURN CAME AROUND. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT RIGHT OF WAY WAS WIDENED OUT IN THAT AREA BY VITA WHEN THEY DID THE RIGHT OF WAY IMPROVEMENTS ON BROAD STREET. 
          SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE PICTURE IS ACTUALLY TAKEN RIGHT AT THE CORNER. 
          SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT PICTURE ACCURATE ROAD REALLY GOING TO BE FIVE FEET FROM HER? CAN WE, YEAH, MAYBE WE CAN PULL THE PICTURE. 
          THEY FLEW OVER WITH 
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A DRONE ON FEBRUARY 1ST. 
          I'M JUST SAYING, OH, BY THE WAY, AT PRESENT DELINEATION, UM, YEAH, ACTUALLY IT'D BE EASIER TO DO IT THROUGH HERE, SO I'LL LET YOU SCROLL DOWN. 
          PERFECT. 
          ARE YOU OKAY? YES. 
          MA'AM SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE'RE NOT ON, YOU KNOW, LET ME SAY THIS. 
          WE'RE NOT TAKING ANYBODY'S LAND OR ANYTHING. 
          WHAT WE'VE DONE, WHAT WE'VE DONE OUT THERE AS WE'VE STAKED OUT THE, UH, UH, THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR IT, WHICH I THINK, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF A POINTER WORKS HERE TOP ONE. 
          AH, THERE WE GO. 
          SO, UH, IF I, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT STAKE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE STAKED OUT THAT CORNER RIGHT THERE, AND WE'D HAVE STAKED OUT THAT CORNER RIGHT THERE. 
          AND THOSE ARE EXISTING RIGHT. 
          OF WAY OF BROAD STREET. 
          NOW WE AREN'T DOING ANY IMPROVEMENT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, THAT IS THE EXISTING CURB LINE THAT YOU SEE RIGHT THERE. 
          SO WE'RE NOT WIDENING IN THE EASTERN DIRECTION AT ALL. 
          AT THIS LITTLE POINT HERE, THOSE EXISTING CURB LINES ARE STAYING, YOU KNOW, THE WIDENING THAT WE PICK UP IS WHEN THIS ROAD STRENGTHS DOWN IN SIZE AND GETS TO BE LESS THAN 22 FEET, WE'RE GOING TO BE WIDENING, UH, THAT, SO, UH, WE CERTAINLY ARE, UH, PICKING UP THE, UH, UH, THERE'S A FENCE LINE IN HERE. 
          AND YOU LOOK AT THAT, THE STEAK IS OVER THE FENCE LINE. 
          EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN THE LINES FOR ME PLEASE. 
          SO YOU'VE GOT THE CURB COMING AROUND TO THE WEST. 
          THEY DON'T, YEAH. 
          THE DOUBLE BLACK LINE IS THE CURB. 
          SO CAN YOU POINT TO WHERE WE BELIEVE THE HOUSE IS THAT IT'S IN THAT PICTURE? IT'S UNDER THE TRIGGER HERE, BUT IT'S THIS SIDE IT'S WORSE ON THE OTHER SIDE. 
          OKAY. 
          YEP. 
          AND THEY, UH, AND THE STEAK, I BELIEVE IT'S ONE OF THESE TWO POINTS HERE AND THE END OF THE ROAD WOULD BE FOLLOWING THE CURVE LINE. 
          UH, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE WIDENING WITH THE WHEEL ROAD IN THIS DIRECTION TO GET THE INTERSECTION. 
          UH, WE'LL BE STRIPING. 
          THE, UH, THERE WILL BE SOME, UH, WIDENING, BUT IT WILL BE WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY LINE, UH, WHICH IS THE LAND THAT MY CURSOR'S ON THERE. 
          AND THAT LINE THAT MY CURSOR'S ON THERE. 
          WHAT HAPPENS IS THE EXISTING PAVEMENT OUT HERE BETWEEN THE CURB LINE IS 36 FOOT WIDE, WHICH ALLOWS FOR THE THREE, 12 FOOT LANES SECTIONS THAT YOU SEE THERE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YUP. 
          ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GOOD QUESTION, MR. WILKINS, MR. CASH. 
          THIS, THIS IS OURS, RIGHT? ARE WE STILL ON, UM, WELL THIS, SEE, THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S EXHIBIT, BUT I CAN STILL USE THAT. 
          WE WERE LOOKING AT EARLIER. 
          YOU WERE SHOWING ME THAT THE TOWNHOMES WAS PRETTY MY MAKEUP. 
          SORRY, SORRY TO MAKE A JUMP BACK AND FORTH THERE. 
          I'M GONNA LET YOU HAVE WHAT YOU CAN NAVIGATE ON THE LEFT AND SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S THE ONE THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT. 
          WE'RE NOT JUST THE STRAIGHT CONCEPT PLAN, SO YEAH, JUST, YOU SAW SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES PRESENTATION ON THIS AND I DIDN'T WANT TO ASK THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT DIDN'T RESPOND TO IT. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          AND I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO EVALUATE IT, BUT YOU SAW WHERE THEY SUGGESTED THEIR SOLUTION TOWARDS THE END OF THEIR PRESENTATION WAS TO BEND THAT BOTTOM ROAD, WHICH GOES UP TO BEND IT DOWN, DRIVE IT STRAIGHT TO THE CUL-DE-SAC THERE, WHERE IT SAYS READERS, BRANCH AND PRINT IT AND THEN DROP THE OTHER ROAD DOWN AND TIE IT IN WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE ROAD THAT THEY HAVE DID, I JUST WANT TO KNOW DID STAFF, CAUSE THIS IS YOUR WORLD AND YOU WORK WITH THINGS LIKE CHOKE POINTS IN ACCESS. 
          DID YOU HAVE A REACTION TO THAT? UM, TO WELL WAS TO THAT DEMONSTRATION, THEY HAVE A SOLUTION AND THEY SHOWED THE ROADS GETTING COMPLETELY RECONFIGURED, WHICH I'M, I'M SURE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THERE, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A COMPLETE RECONFIGURATION. 
          NO, I DON'T NEED THE SLOT. 
          I SEE WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND. 
          YOU SAW THERE SLIDE. 
          RIGHT, RIGHT. 
          I'M JUST ASKING, DID YOU STAFF HAVE ANY REACTION TO THAT FROM, IN TERMS OF WITH YOU'D HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO EVALUATE IT, BUT HAVE YOU, DID YOU HAVE ANY REACTION TO W WELL, RIGHT. 
          SO THE, WHAT, WHAT IS 
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LOOKING, WHAT IS BEING SOUGHT HERE IS A, A SECOND ROAD CONNECTION, UM, FROM THE READER'S BRAND'S DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE CAUSE OF THE CURRENTLY EXCEEDS THE 49. 
          UM, IT'LL EXCEED THE 40 YARD LOTS, UM, DAY IS NOT A ROAD THAT, UM, IS BUILT CONNECTED OR HAS AN OUTLET ITSELF. 
          UM, SO BRINGING THAT ROAD EVER DIRECTLY TO TWO ROAD, A FIRST I'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT ARE OFF OF THAT, THAT ONE ROADWAY, BECAUSE, UM, IT'S HARD. 
          IT'S ALREADY, UM, THAT, THAT CONNECTION'S ALREADY AT 49. 
          I COULDN'T TELL HIM. 
          AND HE LOTS WERE THERE, BUT I WOULD SAY THERE WAS A LOT OF LOTS THAT WERE SHOWN THERE. 
          UM, SO THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN THAT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE ANOTHER CONNECTION BREAK-OFF POINT FROM THAT. 
          UM, SO BEFORE THAT, THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THAT WAY ROAD A NOT BEING A ROAD THAT HAS ANY OUTLET ITSELF. 
          IT IS A BASICALLY AT THIS POINT WE WOULD STILL BE CONSIDERED AN INTERNAL ROAD. 
          NO, THAT WOULDN'T ALLEVIATE THE REQUIREMENT. 
          I MEAN, THAT WOULDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENT OF THE SECOND ACCESS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IN ADDITION, THERE'S ALSO THE REQUIREMENT OF THE ROAD CONNECTION THAT WERE PRO-BALL ROAD WAS ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS ONE OF THE PROVISIONS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE SAW THAT I DIDN'T WANT YOU YOU'VE DONE EXACTLY WHAT I JUST GOT. 
          ONE, JUST AT LEAST GIVE ME YOUR IMPRESSIONS. 
          AND YOU'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN THE BACK OF MY MIND. 
          I HAD SOME OF THE SAME THOUGHTS. 
          LIKE I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT'S GOING TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS JUST THE WAY THIS IS CONFIGURED. 
          AND I THINK YOU'RE TOUCHING ON JUST FROM MY LIMITED EXPERIENCE OF SEEING THE BALL, YOU KNOW, SHOW US HOW THESE THINGS WORK. 
          I HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT AND SOUNDS LIKE YOU DID TOO. 
          YOU DO? YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR SHARING. 
          I'VE GOT ONE SIMPLE QUESTION, I BELIEVE. 
          UM, SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE DENSITY OF THIS PROJECT? UM, LET'S SEE, I'VE GOT IT BACK ON THE, UH, NUMBERS HERE, SORRY, 16. 
          I HAVE A REMOTE FACT REPORT. 
          SO IT'S TWO, A 2.4 IS THE DENSITY. 
          AND WE BASED THE DENSITY SOLELY UPON THE RPD PORTION. 
          SO THE PORTION THAT'S, THE A TWO WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE PER FOR THE PURPOSE OF CALCULATING, UM, LOTS. 
          AND THAT'S THE CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW, FOR RPD, BECAUSE WE DO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL OPEN SPACE AND COMMON AREA. 
          THE ORDINANCE DOES LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF, UM, FLOODPLAIN AND THINGS LIKE BAY AREAS THAT YOU CAN INCLUDE. 
          SO WE MADE SURE THE APPLICANT BASE OR DENSITY ONLY UPON THE AREA THAT'S BEING ZONED RPU D OKAY. 
          AND SO THAT'S 2.4. 
          WHAT IS THE DENSITY OF THE WHIPPLE WILL? UM, I THINK THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION HAD THAT AT 1.6, I BELIEVE 1.6, 1.68 FOR THEIR DENTIST. 
          WELL, THEY ALSO HAD THEIR PROPERTY AT 1.7. 
          SO I'M WHY I'M ASKING, UM, THE ONE POINT OF, FOR THE APPLICANT THEY REFERENCED. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK WHEN SHE WAS REFERENCING THAT AS SHE INCLUDED THE AID TWO PIECE AS WELL, UM, IT WOULD BE AT THE 1.7, HAVEN'T CALCULATED IN A WHILE. 
          I THINK IT'S 1.72 ORIGINALLY. 
          SO WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT EIGHT TWO PIECE. 
          SO THE TAPE ATP, SO WE'LL STAY VACANT, UM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF HAVING THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGH THERE. 
          WHAT WAS THE ONE FOR YOUR, WITH THE TOTAL PARCELS 1.72? IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? WHAT WAS IT? 1.7, RIGHT. 
          SO IF YOU INCLUDE THE ENTIRE AID TWO PIECE, AS WELL AS THE RPD PIECE, THE DENSITY FOR THE GILMAN PROPERTY ITSELF WOULD BE A IT'S A LITTLE BIT OVER 1.7. 
          IS THAT HOW WE CALCULATE IT? UH, NO, BUT WE DID IS WE CALCULATE TO MAKE SURE IT'S, SINCE THEY WERE PURSUING THE RPU D ZONING, WE BASED THE DENSITY CALCULATION UPON WHAT WAS JUST BEING INCLUDED WITHIN RPD. 
          THAT'S WHY WE SAY 2.48, BUT IF YOU SORT OF CREDIT WHAT'S WITHIN THE ENTIRE PARCEL, AND AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO COMPLY WITH THE RPDS ZONING DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS. 
          IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE POINT. 
          SO, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT'S BEING REZONED IS THE ARE PUD. 
          UM, RIGHT. 
          BUT DOES THE H PORTION WAS ALSO INCLUDED WITHIN THE ZONING CASE AND THE REASONING WAS, IS THERE, OTHERWISE YOU'D HAVE HAD THIS A TWO-PIECE OUT THERE THAT WAS UNATTACHED UNDEVELOPABLE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN AN LANDLOCKED, UM, THE DEVELOPER, A GRADE TO KEEP THAT CONNECTED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IT'S CARED FOR. 
          AND ULTIMATELY IT BECOMES A BENEFIT FOR THE READER'S BRANCH NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THE, UM, SO FROM A BASE ZONING STAMP, I MEAN, BASED IN SYDNEY STANDPOINT, THE 1.72 WOULD BE CORRECT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THE RPD ZONING IS SET UP, YOU CAN'T INCLUDE SO 
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MUCH FLOOD PLAIN AREA AND YOUR, UM, CALCULATIONS. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I'D SAY SPLIT ZONE, UM, HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING, BUT FROM THE RPD DENSITY, THEY WOULD COMPLY WITH RPDS, UM, ORDINANCE. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT A DENSITY AND LAND USE DENSITY FOR THIS AREA, IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE LOW FOR SUBURB POTENTIAL SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS GILMAN PROPERTY IS A TOTAL, UH, 72 ACRES. 
          OKAY. 
          LET 72.9 ACRES. 
          SO WE'RE REZONING 49 OF THE 72. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? TWO THE RPU DAY AND THE REMAINING PIECE OF THE PROPERTY REMAINS THE 82 82. 
          SO IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD ON THAT ADDITIONAL AGRICULTURAL ZONE PROPERTY, THEY COULD DO SO BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THIS, UM, IT'S PART OF THAT. 
          BUT THE, THE, THOSE CASE WITH LIMITED THAT THEIR, THEIR BUILDING IS LIMITED TO THE RPD AREA. 
          THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO BUILD ON THAT. 
          ALSO, THE LAND IS NOT WITH THE FLOOD PLAINS AND, AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES IN THERE THAT AREAS IS NOT, UM, BUILDABLE. 
          THEY HAVE LIMITED THEMSELVES ALSO TO THE DENSITY OF THIS PROPERTY PROJECT TO BE 122 UNITS. 
          SO WE WOULDN'T LET THEM BUILD ON THE AID TO PORTION. 
          RIGHT. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. 
          SO YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THEY, I WOULD CALL IT PLAY ZONE PORTION OF THIS CANNOT BE BUILT ON AT ALL. 
          CORRECT. 
          CAN NOT BE BUILT ON. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THAT. 
          IS THAT BEING DONATED TO THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATES PROPER 18, THE LAST PROFIT? YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          PROPER IS IT GOES TO THE HOME. 
          I WAS JUST SAY SANCTION. 
          SO IT'S PART OF THEIR OVERALL SYSTEM. 
          THEY'VE ALSO PROVIDED A TRAIL SYSTEM THAT GOES THROUGH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          MAY I ASK A QUESTION? IT MIGHT BE THAT. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, SO, AND THIS JUST, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, JUST MAKE ME GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS AGAIN. 
          YOU HAVE THE LAST TWO PROFFERS, NEW NUMBER 19 AND 20. 
          THE FOLLOWING PROFFER SHALL APPLY ONLY TO THE PROPERTIES OWNED A TO AGRICULTURAL LIMITED. 
          AND YOU TALK ABOUT NUMBER ONE, THE TRAIL, AND NUMBER TWO, THE PROPERTY, MEANING THE  AREA, THE PROPERTY SHALL BE DEDICATED TO AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AS A COMMON AREA. 
          SO I THINK THAT THAT, THAT, THAT THEN RAISES A QUESTION. 
          THERE'S OTHER COMMON AREAS IN THE RPU D SIDE THAT YOU HAVE NOT PROFFERED IS GOING TO BELONG TO AN ASSOCIATION. 
          HAVE YOU BEEN OFFERED RIGHT? PROPER THREE YOU'RE BEING RECORDED PROPERLY. 
          AND OF COURSE THE ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE THAT YOU PROVIDE A CERTAIN PORTION AMOUNT AS OPEN SPACE EQUALS COMMON AREA. 
          OKAY. 
          AND VICE VERSA. 
          THEY'RE THERE. 
          THEY'RE NOT SEPARATE. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON. 
          YUP. 
          IT JUST OCCURRED TO ME IN ADDITION TO SAFE, UNSAFE, AND RURAL SUBURBAN, THERE WAS ANOTHER, ANOTHER SUBJECT TO INTERPRETATION THAT I THINK I HEARD, UH, WHERE MAYBE YOU CAN BREAK THE TIRE AND HELP GIVE ME SOME INSIGHT INTO IT ANYWAY. 
          AND THAT'S THE INTERPRETATION OF THE, UH, THE VITA, UH, PROVISIONS THAT EITHER MUST CONNECT OR SHOULDN'T CONNECT. 
          CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THE, WE MUST CONNECT TO DO WE SHOULDN'T CONNECT. 
          UM, IT'S A, IT'S A MUST CONNECT. 
          UM, IF THE YOU'D HAVE TO MAKE, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A DETERMINATION OF, FOR AND SAFE, AND THAT DECISION WOULD ACTUALLY GO TO THE DOTS. 
          UM, DISTRICT ADMINISTRATORS, IT'S NOT A DECISION THAT'S MADE HERE, UM, OR BY THE STAFF. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, BY THE, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE EVALUATION COMES IN FOR THE TA THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC AND TRIPS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY, UM, EVALUATED FOR THAT, IT DIDN'T REACH THE UNSAFE. 
          SO THEY SEE THAT PROVISION. 
          SINCE THEY'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THESE ROADS, AS YOU MUST CONNECT A LESSON, THEIR DETERMINATION, THEY DECIDE SOMETHING AS I'M SAFE AND THEY HAVEN'T REACHED THAT. 
          UH, THEY HAVE RESECT CONCLUSION OR WE'D HAVE TO BRING FORWARD EVIDENCE WHERE WE REALLY SEE IT'S, UM, DRAMATICALLY HERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT, WHEN WE DO THE EVALUATION FOR THESE DEVELOPMENTS, AS WELL AS HOW THE ROAD DESIGN IS SET UP, AND THIS ONE IS INTENDED, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN ITS, BY ITS PHASING TO DIVERT TRAFFIC AND A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, YOU TRY TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM COMING A LONG WAYS DOWN FROM ONE NEIGHBORHOOD TO ANOTHER TO LOOP BACK UP THROUGH THIS WAY. 
          UM, AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE ELEMENTS THEY WORKED ON THEIR PHASING DESIGN. 
          UM, AGAIN, BASED UPON THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WE RECEIVED FROM, UM, AND THE ENGINEERS WHO WERE EXPERTS IN THAT WE DID NOT DETERMINE THAT IT WOULD BE AN UNSAFE CONNECTION. 
          RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU FOR CALLING THE BALLS. 
          AND I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS QUICK. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE QUICK ENOUGH. 
          UM, 
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ONCE THE SIDEWALKS ARE COMPLETED, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING THEM. 
          SO IF THE SIDEWALKS ARE INSTALLED IN RIGHT AWAY, WHICH IS PROPOSED, THEY WOULD BE THE DANCERS MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY, RIGHT. 
          UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE DISCUSS, WHICH IS WHY I WENT FROM CONCRETE TO, I THINK THE APPLICANTS AT ONE POINT WANTED TO DO PAVEMENT. 
          AND THEN WE HEARD SOME COMMENTS FROM SOME FOLKS REGARDING THE GARAGES ON THE, UH, ON THE ATTACHED HOMES. 
          UM, IT'S CAN WE EVEN DICTATE WHERE THEY PUT THEIR GARAGES? UM, YOU CAN, YOU COULD WORK WITH THEM AS THAT PROFFER IS SOMETHING WE CAN'T MANDATE. 
          WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T JUST REQUIRE IT. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN ORDINANCE THIS TIME THAT STEERS TOWARDS THAT. 
          AND TYPICALLY WHEN YOU GET TO ARCHITECTURAL THINGS, IT'S NOT REALLY UNDER OUR REALM OR RESIDENTIAL. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT QUESTIONS. 
          GREAT ANSWERS. 
          OKAY. 
          BORING. 
          WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE. 
          THIS JARED, NOT TO CIRCLE BACK, BUT I THINK, I THINK DURING THE PROCESS HERE, WE HEARD AT LEAST ONE OR TWO AREAS WHERE THE APPLICANT WAS WILLING TO DO KIND OF A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. 
          WELL, ONE OF THEM WAS ON THE DEED AND WHEN THERE'S AT LEAST A COUPLE OF THOSE ITEMS, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE FINISHED DEVELOPING THAT INTO LANGUAGE THAT MIGHT BE PETERSON. 
          IT'S POSSIBLE. 
          I MISSED SOMETHING, BUT, UM, UNDER 18 OF THE DISCLOSURE, THERE WAS A VERY DISTINCT, UH, AMENDMENT GIVEN BY THE APPLICANT FROM THE PODIUM. 
          UM, I DID NOT RECORD THAT. 
          THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE BUFFER THAT IT'D HAVE TO BE DONE WITHIN THE 50 50TH BUILDING PERMIT. 
          AND IF STAFF HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, UM, YEAH, IT DOES. 
          IT IS, IT COULD BE AN INTERPRETATION ISSUE AS FAR AS THE 50% RULE AND RICARDO SPENDING GUMS IN REGARDS TO LANDSCAPING PROVISION. 
          UM, AND WE'D HAD PREVIOUS SESSION WITH THE BOARD. 
          WE'RE LOOKING TO WORK ON, ON THAT ISSUE ABOUT WHEN BUFFERS GET DONE, THEIR BOOTS GET ACCEPTED. 
          UM, AT THIS POINT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT REALLY TIES DOWN WHEN THERE'S BUFFERS WOULD BE PROVIDED FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THAT WAS PART OF AN OVERSIGHT PERHAPS ON STAFF THAT WE WERE WORKING ON SOMETHING AND LOST SIGHT OF WHERE WE WERE. 
          UM, SO THE DISCUSSION WAS WITH, IF THE APPLICANT, UM, WOULD BE WANTING TO ADDRESS, YOU WERE JUST SAYING, IF THERE WAS A TIME PROVIDED FOR WHEN THE BALL FIRST WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE WELL RECEIVED WELL RECEIVED. 
          UM, AND I JUST DIDN'T, UH, YES, MA'AM, I BELIEVE THAT THE ORDINANCE MENTIONED, UM, PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF THE 50, 50% OF THE BUILDING PERMITS, I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT, IT REFERENCES IN A ROUNDABOUT WAY. 
          AND WE'RE HAPPY TO MAKE THAT NOTE FOR TIMING PURPOSES, WE'D HAVE THE TWO PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. 
          SO THE SENTENCE THAT I MIGHT, UH, ADD THEM TO THE PHRASE AFTER IT SAYS PROF PROP BUFFERS PRIOR TO ISSUANCE AT 50% OF THE BUILDING PERMITS ON THIS PROPERTY, COLON, AND THEN IT WOULD HAVE A, AND B BEING DONE. 
          IS THAT APPROPRIATE? UM, YES. 
          MA'AM. 
          I MIGHT SAY THAT FOR B IT IS THE BUFFER THAT IS AGAINST THE END OF WEBER WE'LL READ. 
          AND WE WOULD PUT THAT IN WHEN TWO ARE BUILT, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST 50% OF THE BUILDING PERMITS, OR IF THOSE TWO HOMES ARE BUILT, THAT MAKES IT, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WOULD PROPOSE A DIFFERENT TIMING FOR B WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE TIMING HAS PROPOSED MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT NEEDS TO BE. 
          I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR AND WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE AGREEING TO IS WHAT THE BOARD SHOULD BE VOTING ON. 
          YES, MA'AM 50%. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION THAT CAN COME UP BEFORE ABOUT DISCLOSURE 18, AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS EVER, IT WAS TALKED ABOUT THE MARKETING PACKAGES AND CONTRACTS AND OR DEEDS. 
          THE QUESTION WAS, IS DEEDS, IS THAT APPROPRIATE? NATALIE'S SPECIFICALLY CAME TO THE PODIUM AND SAID THAT SHE WOULD REVISE IT TO SAY WITHIN MARKETING PACKAGES AND CONTRACTS, THE APPLICANT. 
          AND I NOTED THAT. 
          THAT'S HOW SHE'S YEAH, SHE'S, SHE'S PROFFERED. 
          HAPPY TO DO THAT KEYBOARD. 
          MR. SHARP, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVES REZONING, OUR Z DASH 2 0 2 1 
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DASH 0 1 0 FOR 72.988 ACRES ON TEXT MAPS, NUMBER 58 DASH FIVE DASH ZERO DASH TWO DASH ZERO. 
          AND A PORTION OF 58 DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 93 DASH ZERO FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO AND RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, TWO RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND AGRICULTURAL LIMITED AID TWO WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS AS AMENDED. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SHARP SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION WENT OUT TO COMMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          DISCUSSION. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MS. CIM, WELL SAID THIS, THIS IS THE KIND OF CASES, THE HARDEST ONES FOR ALL OF US, BECAUSE, UH, TAKING A COMMUNITY THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME, UM, ON A ROAD THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME. 
          THAT IS IN CLEARLY A GROWTH AREA. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS THE PORTION OF THE COUNTY THAT WE HAVE SAID AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD AND PROBABLY LONGER THAT THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO GROW. 
          UM, SO IT JUST REALLY MAKES IT DIFFICULT TRYING TO BALANCE EVERYONE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS, EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM THAT OWNS PROPERTY HAS HAS RIGHTS. 
          THE APPLICANT DOES. 
          AND EVERYONE HERE DOES. 
          SO TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO GET THE YES IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO. 
          UH, PROBABLY HASN'T WORKED OUT AS WELL AS WE HAD HOPED THAT IT WOULD. 
          UM, BUT I, I DO THINK THIS IS THE GROWTH AREA OF THE COUNTY AND, YOU KNOW, 40, 50 YEARS AGO IT WAS RURAL. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          I MEAN, PEOPLE HERE REMEMBER WHEN PERRIN ROAD AND, AND BROAD WAS NO STOPLIGHTS AND INNS BROOKE WASN'T THERE. 
          SO, I MEAN, IT HAS GROWN AND THIS AREA WAS PROBABLY CONSIDERED RURAL AT THAT TIME. 
          AND, BUT IT, BUT IT REALLY ISN'T, UM, CONSIDERING ALL THE GROWTH AROUND AND BEING PART OF THE, UM, INSIDE THE VILLAGE. 
          SO I JUST WANNA LET YOU GUYS KNOW THIS IS THE, THIS IS A TOUGH VOTE, WHICHEVER WAY WE GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL JUST COMMENT REAL QUICK WITH THE LAST PICTURE IN THE, IN THE PRESENTATION, FROM THE COMMUNITY, WITH THE PERSON WALKING AND SEEING THE TRACTOR AND THE DISTANCE AND THE COMING GROWTH KNOW, I THINK THE COMMUNITY, IF THEY WANT, AND I THINK THE, UH, EAGLE HAS MADE IT, YOU KNOW, IF THE COMMUNITY WANTS SIDEWALKS, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HAS TO ALMOST BE UNANIMOUS IF YOU DON'T, THEY WON'T HAPPEN. 
          AND EAGLE HAS COMMITTED TO MAKE HELP THE EAST END TRAILS, WHICH ARE GOING TO BE A NICE AMENITY IN THIS AREA BECAUSE GROWTH IS COMING THERE AND EASTERN TRAILS HAVE BEEN ON OUR PLANS. 
          AND I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, WHAT'S COMING HERE. 
          SO IT'S IN THE COMMUNITY HANDS ON AS FAR AS THE SIDEWALK ON WHIPPOORWILL. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD, IT SAID NOT SAFE. 
          I THINK A SIDEWALK IS AT LEAST PART OF AN ANSWER. 
          IT'S NOT GOING TO BE RURAL, BUT IT'S, I THINK THE SAFE CAN BE ADDRESSED IF, IF THE COMMUNITY SO CHOOSES AND IF, IF THEY DON'T EAGLE HAS MADE A COMMITMENT, UM, THAT'S GOING TO HELP THE AREA, MR. SHARP. 
          I WOULD JUST SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, WE ASKED THAT THE APPLICANT DEFER TO MEET WITH THE RESIDENTS. 
          UH, THEY DID THAT. 
          THEY DID EVERYTHING THE BOARD HAS ASKED THEM TO DO. 
          UH, THE MEETING WAS HELD, SOME, CAME SOME DIDN'T, BUT, UH, IT'S A TOUGH DECISION AS MS. LASKO THAT SAID, UM, NOT EVERYBODY CAN WIN, YOU KNOW, AND IN A LOT OF CASES, NOBODY WINS HERE, BUT, UM, IT IS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT FITS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. 
          AND IT'S TOUGH TO TURN SOMETHING DOWN THAT DOES FALL WITHIN WHAT, UH, THE PLAN CALLS FOR. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SMALL VILLAGE PLAN COMING. 
          UH, THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER PROPERTIES THAT DAY SENT TO THIS ONE. 
          AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THINGS WOULD BE HAPPENING, HOPEFULLY WHAT COMES OUT OF THE CENTREVILLE AREA WITH THE SMALL AREA PLAN. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO THAT POINT BEFORE EVERYTHING GETS BUILT OUT, WE'RE TRYING TO BE SELECTIVE ON THINGS GOING FORWARD. 
          SO THAT ONCE THAT PLAN IS DONE, PEOPLE WILL KNOW THIS AREA IS DESIGNED FOR THIS. 
          AND IF YOU WANT TO DEVELOP THAT AREA, COME IN WITH WHAT THE SMALL VILLAGE PLAN SAYS. 
          SO THIS FITS IN, 
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IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT FOR OVER TWO YEARS AND, UH, SO DIFFICULT DECISION, BUT THAT'S ALL. 
          THANK YOU, MR. SHARP, MR. PETERSON, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU. 
          UM, AT THE RISK OF PILING ON, AND THIS IS A DIFFICULT DECISION. 
          SOME DECISIONS ARE VERY EASY UP HERE AND SOME AREN'T AND, AND I'M GOING TO JUST TRY AND MY VISION FOR THE FUTURE HERE AT THE END OF THE DAY, I'M HOPING THAT THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROAD ITSELF. 
          MAYBE SOME SIDEWALKS, MAYBE NOT, BUT THEN WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY, WHEN A IS BUILT THAT IT WILL CUT DOWN DRAMATICALLY ON THE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THE, SO MY VISION IS HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL NOT BE A PERMANENT KIND OF THING. 
          IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE KIND OF A BRIDGE TO THE NEXT ROAD THAT GETS BUILT. 
          AND THEN THE TRAFFIC WILL BE MUCH LESS, BUT AS FAR AS BEING APPROPRIATE, IT'S A SUBURBAN AREA. 
          IT'S DESIGNATED THAT WAY. 
          THAT'S A SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT LAND USE IS APPROPRIATE VIDA. 
          WE MUST CONNECT. 
          SO IT SEEMS LIKE AN APPROPRIATE, BUT I'M HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL HAVE A LOWER IMPACT OVER TIME. 
          UM, BECAUSE OUR, OUR JOB REALLY ISN'T THAT HARD. 
          IT'S JUST MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY ALL THE TIME. 
          AND SO OUR GOAL IS WHEN EVERYBODY LEAVES, IF NOT, EVERYBODY'S HAPPY AND I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY YES, I KNOW AT THE SAME TIME. 
          SO YOU HAVE TO DECIDE, IS IT APPROPRIATE OR NOT? AND, UH, IT'S A TOUGH DECISION. 
          OKAY. 
          MR. ALVAREZ, MR. LUMPKINS. 
          YES. 
          MR. SHARP. 
          YES. 
          MR. PETERSON? YES. 
          THIS LAST COLORED. 
          YES. 
          AND CHAIRMAN HOWARD. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE HAVE OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING COMING UP RESIGNING, AND WE WERE GOING TO TAKE A 15 MINUTE BREAK. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
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GOOD 
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EVENING 
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MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. ALVAREZ. 
          THANK YOU FOR JUST A FEW MINUTES TONIGHT, WHERE WE HAVE THE FINAL PRESENTATION OF THE REDISTRICTING MAP AND ORDINANCE AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IN ORDER TO ADOPT IT. 
          I AM, AS YOU KNOW, THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY ATTORNEY TERRA 
          [2. 5300: Ordinance repealing Goochland County Code, Chapter 2 (Administration),]
MCGEE. 
          AND BEFORE I START, WHAT I HOPE IS OUR FINAL PRESENTATION ON THIS. 
          LET ME STOP FOR A MINUTE JUST TO THANK THE TIME AND EFFORT OF THIS ENTIRE TEAM WHO WORKED HARD, EVERYONE CONTRIBUTED, AND WE WOULDN'T BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITHOUT THEIR TIME AND EFFORT. 
          AND LET ME JUST ADD IF I COULD BRIEFLY, ALTHOUGH THIS TEAM ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT ACTUALLY PREPARED THE MAPS, WE WERE SUPPORTED BY OTHERS ON OUR EFFORT, INCLUDING RANDY BUZZARD, JANET NEWBIE, AND WARREN FROM IT. 
          PAUL DRUMRIGHT AND CHRISTINA, UH, NEIL, MY OFFICE PARALEGAL DID EXCELLENT WORK ON THE ACTUAL WRITING OF THE ORDINANCE. 
          AND SHE WAS HELPED WITH, BY WOODBURN OF CD WHO HAD NO CONNECTION TO THIS AT ALL, EXCEPT FOR THAT. 
          HE KNOWS THE RIVERS AND STREAMS THAT WE NEEDED TO USE OCCASIONALLY TO IDENTIFY OUR BOUNDARIES. 
          SO I THINK EVERYONE INVOLVED WITH THIS EFFORT. 
          LET ME JUST REMIND THE BOARD. 
          IF I MAY, THE QUICK LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR REDISTRICTING SUBSTANTIALLY EQUAL IN POPULATION IS BY LAW PLUS OR MINUS 5% ARE OUR AREAS HAVE TO BE CONTIGUOUS AND COMPACT. 
          NO DISTRICT CAN BE DRAWN FOR THE PURPOSE OF EITHER CONCENTRATING OR DILUTING MINORITIES. 
          CLEARLY OBSERVABLE BOUNDARIES, ROADS, STREAMS, AND RIVERS WERE USED BY THE CENSUS BUREAU AND THEN BUNDLED TOGETHER BY OUR TEAM TO MAKE THE DISTRICTS. 
          AND AS FOR CONSIDERING STATE ELECTION DISTRICTS, ONLY ONE STATE ELECTION DISTRICT BOUNDARY GOES THROUGH GOOCHLAND, AND IT IS INCORPORATED APPROPRIATELY INTO OUR MAP WITHOUT CREATING A SPLIT PRECINCT. 
          ONE OTHER THINGS WE HAD TO CONSIDER WHERE THOSE POLLING PLACES AND THE PRECINCTS, THESE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WE DID IN FACT, FOLLOW A DRAWING, YOUR MAP, THE PRECINCTS, OR THOSE SUBSECTIONS OF ELECTION DISTRICTS. 
          EACH OF OUR DISTRICTS NOW HAS UNDER THE PROPOSED MAP, ROUGHLY EQUAL NUMBERS OF REGISTERED VOTERS IN EACH PRECINCT, TWO PRECINCTS PER DISTRICT. 
          AND THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT IS DISTRICT FOUR, WHERE THERE'S NOT QUITE EQUAL FOR REGISTERED VOTERS. 
          AND THAT'S DUE TO THE VIRGINIA HOUSE OF DELEGATES BOUNDARY BETWEEN 56 AND 57, WHICH RUNS THROUGH IT, BUT IT IS STILL A LEGALLY APPROVABLE PRECINCT BOUNDARY. 
          AND EACH, UH, POLLING PLACE HAS AN APPROPRIATE, EXCUSE ME, EACH PRECINCT HAS AN APPROPRIATE POLLING PLACE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY BOARD MEMBERS WOULD GO BACK TO LAST FALL WHEN YOU ALL APPROVED THESE FIRST THREE CRITERIA FOR THE TEAM TO USE IN CREATING THE MAP. 
          AND OF COURSE CHOSE NOT TO PROTECT YOURSELVES OR THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS BY NOT ASKING THE TEAM TO CONSIDER AT ALL THE LOCATION OF INCUMBENTS WITHIN THE DISTRICTS. 
          YOU TOOK POLITICS DIRECTLY OUT OF THIS DECISION, WHICH WAS APPRECIATED NOT ONLY BY YOUR TEAM, BUT MOSTLY BY THE CITIZENS. 
          AND SO HAVING FOLLOWED THESE CRITERIA BY DECEMBER 17TH, WE POSTED THIS MAP AS OUR PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP. 
          THAT WAS OVER THREE MONTHS AGO, THE POSTING OF THE PROPOSED MAP WAS ONLY THE FIRST STEP OF THE PROCESS, WHICH WE MET THE TWO GOALS OF PUBLIC INPUT AND TRANSPARENCY. 
          THESE ARE ALL SEVEN OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WE HAD OVER THE MONTH OF JANUARY AT WHICH RESIDENTS PARTICIPATED, BOTH IN-PERSON AND VIRTUALLY, AND THE REDISTRICTING WEBSITE WITH A WEALTH OF INFORMATION THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN UPDATED UP TO THE MINUTE AND EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE NEEDED TO KNOW IT RECEIVED OVER 1400 
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HITS OVER THE COURSE OF, UM, THE THREE MONTHS AS I PRESENTED TO YOU ON FEBRUARY 22ND, THERE WERE THREE REQUESTS MADE BY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY FOR CHANGES TO THE MAP. 
          AND ALTHOUGH WE MADE SEVERAL EFFORTS, THERE WAS NO WAY TO DO A LEGALLY, UH, UH, JUSTIFIABLE BOUNDARY FOR NUMBER ONE. 
          BUT WE DID PROPOSED MAPS FOR BOTH NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER THREE, AND THE BOARD ON FEBRUARY 22ND VOTED NOT TO MAKE THOSE REVISIONS. 
          THEY WEREN'T, THEY WERE LESS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARDS THAN THE MAP THAT WE HAD BEFORE THE BOARD. 
          SO THE MAP PROPOSED YOUR DISTRICT, YOUR MAP MOVED, FEWER VOTERS HAD LESS VOTER DISRUPTION. 
          THOSE TYPES OF THINGS HERE IS THE POPULATION DATA FOR WHAT HAS NOW BEEN RETITLED, THE OFFICIAL ELECTORAL MAP. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, WITH AN ADJUSTED POPULATION OF 24,000 1 49, OUR TARGET FOR EACH ELECTION DISTRICT WAS 48 30 EACH ONE OF THESE IS WITHIN THE PLUS OR MINUS 5% DEVIATION THAT'S PERMITTED. 
          THIS IS NOW BEEN RETITLED, THE OFFICIAL ELECTORAL MAP. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, THERE ARE NO CHANGES FROM OUR PROPOSED REDISTRICTING MAP. 
          EACH DISTRICT HAS TWO PRECINCTS, UH, IN POLLING PLACES IN FOUR AND FIVE WERE RETAINING THE SAME POLLING PLACES, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO USE SOME ADDITIONAL PUBLIC BUILDINGS FOR POLLING PLACES. 
          AND THOSE ARE PREFERRED POLLING PLACES UNDER STATE LAW. 
          SO BERTA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER AND RANDOLPH ELEMENTARY, OUR NEW POLLING PLACES IN THE NEW DISTRICT MAP. 
          AND THEN IN PRECINCT 2 0 2, THERE WAS A CHANGE TO CHIEF CORNERSTONE BAPTIST CHURCH AS A POLLING PLACE BECAUSE IT'S LARGER FACILITY AND THAT, UH, PRECINCT NOW HAS MORE REGISTERED VOTERS THAN IT. 
          ACCORDING TO OUR GENERAL REGISTRAR, RYAN MULLIGAN, EVERY COUNTY REGISTERED VOTER WILL BE PROVIDED THEIR NEW VOTER INFORMATION BY JUNE 6TH. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THIS LAST ONE? IT'S THE ONE VERY SIMPLE, QUICK QUESTION. 
          I HOPE SO. 
          RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, AS YOU SAID, VERY ROBUST, UH, PORTION OF OUR WEBSITE DEDICATED TO THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS. 
          AND ONE OF THE FEATURES THAT I LIKED THE MOST AND I'VE REFERRED A LOT OF PEOPLE TOO, IS THEY CAN PUT IN THEIR DRESS AND IT WILL TELL THEM NOT ONLY THE OLD PRECINCT, BUT THEIR NEW AND ALSO, UH, THEIR POLLING LOCATION, IF THAT, WELL, WHETHER IT'S CHANGED NIGHT SHOWS YOU THEIR POLLING LOCATION. 
          MY QUESTION IS THIS, AND MAYBE IT'S ONE FOR IT. 
          IS WILL THAT REMAIN UP ON OUR WEBSITE? UM, YES, MA'AM I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO. 
          AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. 
          SO FAR, THE ONLY WAY WE'VE CHANGED THE WEBSITE IS TO NO LONGER ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENTS TO BE PLACED BECAUSE THE COMMENT PERIOD IS CLOSED. 
          AND I BELIEVE WE'RE DISABLING THE EMAIL BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT MONITORING THAT EMAIL BOX THAT WAS WITH PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, BUT OTHERWISE THE REDISTRICTING WEBSITE AND THE INTERACTIVE MAP CAN REMAIN SO THAT PEOPLE COULD CONTINUE TO LOOK AT IT, RIGHT? THE MAP AND THE INTERACTIVE, UM, THE ABILITY TO CHECK YOUR ADDRESS, I THINK REALLY NEED TO BE PROMINENT. 
          AND OUR WEBSITE ONCE ASSUMING THAT THIS DOES GET APPROVED, UM, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION THAT PEOPLE CAN QUICKLY GO AND FIND IT RATHER THAN GOING THROUGH A LOT OF COMMENTS AND WHATEVER, WHATEVER THEY CAN QUICKLY GO AND FIND IT. 
          UM, WE MIGHT HELP MAYBE EVEN ALL THE REGISTERS SITE FOR THAT MATTER, UM, WHEN WE COULD REALLY LINK IT SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH AS MUCH TO GET TO IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          DO YOU WANT, THANK YOU, MS. LAWSON, WHAT ARE YOUR OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, JUST SO YOU HAVE EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU ALSO, UH, YOU DO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE ORDINANCE AND THE MAP. 
          UM, I WILL ALSO BE ASKING YOU WHEN I COME BACK UP AND YOU'RE READY FOR VOTES. 
          THERE IS ONE LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THAT CHIEF CORNERSTONE, UM, WHICH WE'D BE ASKING YOU TO AUTHORIZE. 
          SO THAT'S JUST ALL WHAT'S BEFORE YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING WITH A LOT OF WORK AND APPRECIATE IT, BUT NOW I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND WE WISH TO COME FORWARD. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN SHE'S THE FOURTH ESTATE, JOHN  1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD. 
          UH, MS. MCGEE, DIDN'T MENTIONED THAT IF SHE DID URL TRACKING, SHE WOULD FIND OUT THAT 1,372 OF THOSE HITS ON THE WEBSITE WERE ME. 
          UM, I'VE HAD QUITE A BIT OF INTEREST IN THIS JUST BECAUSE I'M WIRED THAT WAY. 
          I CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE AND I'M HAPPY WHEN THE BOARD SUPPORTS THE ELECTION PROCESS HERE IN THE COUNTY. 
          UH, I'M NOT A BIG BELIEVER IN BLANK CHECKS, BUT WHATEVER THE ELECTORAL AND THE REGISTRAR NEED FOR HALF FOR US TO HAVE, UH, FREE AND HONEST ELECTIONS, I THINK IS MONEY WELL, 
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WELL INVESTED. 
          UM, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE ELECTORAL PROCESS HERE IN THE COUNTY. 
          UM, AND I DID MISS A COUPLE OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, MS. MCGEE SNUCK ONE IN ON ME WHEN I WASN'T WATCHING. 
          AND SO I DID NOT GET PERFECT ATTENDANCE, BUT I FULLY APPRECIATE THE PROCESS THAT THE COUNTY HAS GONE THROUGH THE STAFF AND, AND MS. MCGEE IN PARTICULARLY, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED TO SEE HER REFERRING TO NOTES UP HERE. 
          I THOUGHT BY NOW SHE HAD IT MEMORIZED, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE'S AN ATTORNEY. 
          SHE IS ALWAYS SPECIFIC WITH THE MAKES HER COMMENTS. 
          SO I I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU APPROVE THIS. 
          UM, I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE AND I APPRECIATE THE PROCESS YOU WENT THROUGH. 
          I HAVE BEEN PART OF SOME COMMUNITY GROUPS AND THEY HAVE BEEN ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO COME OUT TO THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. 
          I EVIDENTLY THAT REALLY DIDN'T TAKE WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT'S I AND SANDY ARE THE ONLY ONES HERE, BUT THAT'S, I THINK IT HAS BEEN A VERY OPEN PROCESS AND COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE. 
          AND MS. MCGEE, I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT YOUR TEAM, BUT I'LL GOING TO CALL IT. 
          HER TEAM, UH, HAS PUT INTO THIS. 
          AND SO I'M FOR IT. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE FOR IT AND APPROVE IT. 
          AND FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE RUN COUNTYWIDE, IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL TO US, BUT ANYWAY, I JUST HAVE TO LEARN NEW POLLING PLACES. 
          THIS IS HOW, THERE YOU GO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MAYA, SEEING NONE. 
          I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          MS. B. 
          I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. 
          UM, SINCE OUR LAST, SINCE OUR PRESENTATION OF THIS, DID WE RECEIVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? NO, WE HAVE NOT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU NOW UNDERSTAND EMOTION. 
          WELL, IT MUST BE THE 42. 
          MR. CHAIRMAN CAN. 
          I CAN JUST CONFIRM THAT WE'VE VOTED. 
          IF THIS GETS APPROVED THIS EVENING, THAT IT BECOMES EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY. 
          IT'S A 30 DAYS AFTER ACCEPTANCE. 
          YES. 
          AND THAT'S REQUIRED BY STATE LAW AND IT WILL BE IN EFFECT FOR THE SPRING SEASON AND THE FALL NOVEMBER WITHIN 30 DAYS. 
          BUT THE CURRENT TERMS CONTINUE TO RUN UNTIL EXPIRATION. 
          THE BOARD MEMBERS CONTINUE TO RUN IN THERE, CONTINUE TO REPRESENT, UH, FRANKLY YOU ALL REPRESENT ALL OF THE COUNTY, BUT YOU CONTINUE TO REPRESENT YOUR DISTRICTS AND WE'LL BE MEETING NEXT WEEK AS A COUNTY STAFF TO DETERMINE HOW WE MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR TO YOU ALL LISA I JUST, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW, I NEVER TRIED TO TRY NEVER TO DO SOMETHING. 
          YOU DON'T WANT THE JC DO RED LIGHT, THE ATTORNEY  PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, AND ANYONE ELSE WHO'S APPOINTED BY DISTRICT. 
          THE LAST PIECE OF THAT WAS THERE'S NO UPDATE ON THAT, ABOUT THE HOUSE RACES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          BOARD MR. SHARP. 
          UH, JUST TO BE SURE. 
          ARE WE LOOKING FOR ONE MOTION OR TWO MOTIONS, ONE MOTION WITH INCLUDING THE CONTRACT? YEAH, THE MOTION HAS THE STRAPPED IN ON THE AGENDA. 
          ITEM INCLUDES BOTH MR. CHAIR. 
          I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE, REPEALING GOOCHLAND COUNTY CODE CHAPTER TWO, ARTICLE TWO, AND ADOPTING A NEW ELECTORAL MAP AND ORDINANCE SECTIONS TWO DASH TWO SIX THROUGH TWO DASH EIGHT, FIVE RELATING TO REVISIONS TO THE ELECTORAL MAP, ELECTION DISTRICTS, VOTING PRECINCTS AND POLLING PLACES AFTER THE 2020 US CENSUS AND SCHOOL BOARD ELECTIONS AND AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR A POLLING PLACE WITH CHIEF CORNERSTONE BAPTIST CHURCH. 
          SECOND, ANY DISCUSSION? I'M SURE WE JUST DO A VOICE VOTE ON THAT, RIGHT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          ROLL CALL VOTE, MR. ALVAREZ SLOWLY. 
          YES. 
          MR. SHARP. 
          YES. 
          MS. LASCALAT. 
          YES. 
          MR. PETERSON. 
          YES. 
          AND CHAIRMAN'S POON HOWARD. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE. 
          THIS WAS A LOT OF OUR KIDS. 
          THANK YOU TO THE CITIZENS THAT CAME OUT AND GAVE COMMENTS. 
          AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AT THIS TIME I WILL ADJOURN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING UNTIL FRIDAY, MARCH 18TH AT 10:30 AM FOR A SPECIAL MEETING, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING 
          [VIII. Adjournment: The Board of Supervisors will adjourn to Tuesday, April 5, 2022, 2:00]
AND BOARDROOM TWO 50. 
          AND, UH, WOULD YOU ANNOUNCE THAT THE APRIL 5TH MEETING WILL NOT HAVE A 2:00 PM SESSION 
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AND THAT ON, UH, W AND UNTIL TUESDAY, APRIL 5TH, FOR OUR 6:00 PM BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING AT THE ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, WE WILL NOT BE HAVING A 2:00 PM REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING AT THAT TIME. 
          SO WE ARE ADJOURNED, BUT I FIGURED YOU HADN'T SEEN IT AND YOU'D BE RIGHT. 
          AND I'LL BE RIGHT ONCE.
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