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ALL RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I CALL TO ORDER

[I. Call to Order, 6:00 PM]

THE TUESDAY, APRIL 5TH, FIFTH, 6:00 PM.

MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND LIKE ALWAYS, WE WILL START WITH OUR INVOCATION BY MS. LAST GLUT AND THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY VICE CHAIR, DON SHARP SCAM, IF YOU'RE ABLE, OKAY, FATHER GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE, TO TOGETHER, TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS OF GOOCHLAND COUNTY.

WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU WERE STOWED UPON US AND WILL IN THE FUTURE.

WE THANK YOU FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO ARE IN HARM'S WAY AT ALL TIMES, WE ASK YOU OF PROTECTION FOR OUR MILITARY, UM, ABROAD AND OVERSEAS.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT AND IN LORD'S NAME, WE PRAY.

AMEN.

THANK YOU, MS. AND MR. SHARP.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE RIGHT ALONG TWO CHAIRS COMMENTS.

I WILL, UM, GO AHEAD AND JUST

[IV. Chair's Comments]

SAY CLIQUE.

GREAT TO BE IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY, MR. KELLY ADMINISTRATOR, YOUR TURN, I'LL BE A LITTLE NUGGET.

[V. County Administrator's Comments]

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT THE BURN BAN IS STILL IN EFFECT UNTIL THE END OF APRIL.

OUR FIRE AND RESCUE FOLKS HAVE BEEN RUNNING AROUND THE LAST FEW DAYS, CHASING SOME EXISTENCE AND SOME NON-EXISTENT FIRES BECAUSE WITH A WEDNESDAY WHERE THEY ARE, THE SMOKE BLOWS ALL OVER THE PLACE.

AND SO WE GET CALLS FROM THE EAST END AND THE WEST END, AND IT'S THE SAME FIRE.

SO PLEASE BE CAREFUL THE BAN BANDS, ANY BURNING BEFORE 4:00 PM.

UM, AND UM, WITH CERTAIN DISTANCES FROM, UH, WOODS.

UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, THERE'S A MESSAGE ON OUR WEBSITE THAT WE UPDATED TODAY.

AND YOU CAN ALSO GO TO DEPARTMENT OF FORESTRY WEBSITE TO SEE MORE INFORMATION ON THE BAN.

AND THAT GOES, AS I SAID, TILL THE END OF APRIL.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS ALL HAD, THANK YOU, MR. ALVAREZ.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW WE WILL MOVE, UM, TO APPROVAL OF OUR ACTION MEETING MINUTES FROM

[VI. Citizen Comment]

I'M SORRY TO CITIZEN COMMENT.

UM, THIS IS A TIME FOR ANYBODY TO COME TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD ON ISSUES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH FUTURE COUNTY THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, UH, PLEASE COME FORWARD, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

AND I WILL OPEN THE SYSTEM COUNT PERIOD.

JONATHAN LAO, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD, MONICA CONSERVATION DISTRICT CHAIRMAN THIS YEAR, ACTUALLY.

YEAH.

MR. PETERSON IS LIKE, WHOA.

HOW ABOUT THAT? UM, I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND I KNOW THAT, UH, THE BUDGET IS THE PRIMARY, IF NOT ONLY TOPIC TONIGHT IN MONICA AND REALLY DOES APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM THE COUNTY OVER THESE PAST YEARS, UH, WE WORK HARD TO BE GOOD STEWARDS.

UH, WE PROVIDE YOU ALL WITH QUARTERLY REPORTS.

I'M REMINDED MR. ALVAREZ SAYING THAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE REPORTS, HE USED TO PROVIDE PEOPLE.

HE PUT A SENTENCE IN THERE THAT SAYS, CALL US AND I'LL GIVE YOU 50 BUCKS AND NOBODY EVER CALLED HIM.

SO I'M NOT GOING TO TELL YOU WE PUT THAT IN OURS, BUT WE MIGHT, UH, SO NOBODY EVER CALLS US UP, BUT WE DO APPRECIATE IT.

THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE, AND THAT'S THE COOPERATION.

AND SPECIFICALLY, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT AND, UH, APPRECIATE MR. ALVAREZ AND MR. BUZZARD, BOTH WHO TOOK ONE FOR THE TEAM.

THEY MET WITH ME TO TALK ABOUT DEVELOPING A RELATIONAL DATABASE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO REACH OUT TO THE AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY IN A PROACTIVE WAY.

THERE ARE OVER A HUNDRED DIFFERENT BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT CAN BE DONE BY THE AG COMMUNITY.

FARMERS ARE BUSY FOLKS.

I MEAN, THE SUNRISE TO SEND DOWN IS, IS NOT, UH, JUST AN OLD SAYING.

UH, AND SO WE WANT TO BE PROACTIVE IN REACHING OUT TO THEM.

WE HAVE RECEIVED

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SIGNIFICANT FUNDING FOR THE BMPS.

EVERY INDICATION ONCE THE STATE BUDGET IS COMPLETED, WE WILL HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF DMP FUNDING AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT, UH, FISCAL YEAR.

AND WE REALLY DO WANT TO REACH OUT TO THE FARMING COMMUNITY AND SAY, HERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE WATER QUALITY SOIL CONSERVATION, AND KNOWING HOW TO GET TO THOSE FOLKS IS, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY DEALING WITH A THREE BY FIVE CARDS IN, IN CORPORATE MEMORY.

SO MR. BOWSER, MR. ALVAREZ, IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL, BUT THERE IS SOME GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE FROM THE NATIONAL FEDERATION OF WILDLIFE COUNCIL.

UM, SO WE'RE PURSUING IT AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE AG COMMUNITY AND, UH, MONICA AND MS. BECKA LEWIS.

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING THEM THAT I WAS IN THE AUDIENCE BECAUSE THEY TRY DIFFERENT WAYS JUST TO MOVE RIGHT INTO THE AGENDA THAT I'M ALWAYS HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HIM AS WELL.

CONGRATULATIONS ON CHAIR.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

I'LL CLOSE THE ASSISTANT KEVIN PERIOD.

NOW MOVE TO APPROVE OUR MINUTES FROM THE FEBRUARY 22ND

[VII. Approval of Action Minutes]

MEETING OUR MARCH 1ST MEETING ON MARCH 10TH AND MARCH 18TH.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO MR. CHAIR, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES FROM FEBRUARY, FEBRUARY 22ND, MARCH 1ST, MARCH 10TH AND MARCH 18TH.

SECOND.

THANK YOU, MS. LASKA, MR. SHARP, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY.

WE'RE MOVING INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

UM, WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA THIS MORNING OR THIS AFTERNOON.

[VIII. Consent Agenda]

UM, ARE WE COMFORTABLE DOING ALL THREE OR DOES ANYBODY REQUEST TO PULL ANYBODY OUT? WE USUALLY, WELL, USUALLY WE PULL, DECIDE IF WE'RE GONNA PULL IT OUT FIRST.

YEAH, I'M SURE YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE PLEASE? ALRIGHT.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE FIRST ITEM IS A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO ACCEPT ROADS IN PARKSIDE VILLAGE, SECTION FOUR, UH, INTO THE SECONDARY, UH, STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM FOR MAINTENANCE.

THE SECOND ITEM, UM, IS ONE THAT I'M VERY GLAD WE'RE FINALLY GETTING TO IT'S PROVIDED ME AUTHORIZATION TO EXECUTE TWO CONTRACTS FOR THE PURCHASE OF LAND FOR THE FUTURE SIDE OF THE SANDY HOOK FIRE STATION.

AND THE THIRD ITEM IS AUTHORIZATION TO LOAN, THE GOOCHLAND VOLUNTEER FIRE RESCUE ASSOCIATION, UH, $300,000 FOR RENOVATIONS THAT FIRE REC RESCUE STATION MANNEQUIN COMPANY ONE.

OKAY.

BOARD.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. ALVAREZ ON THAT? AND, AND NOW DOES ANYBODY HAVE A CHANGE OF OPINION? WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO PULL IT OUT OR DO HE TAKE THEM AS A SLATE? YEAH.

MR. JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE THIRD ITEM, THE, UM, THE LOAN OF THE 300,000, UH, THERE'LL BE MATCHING FUNDS FROM THE VOLUNTEERS.

YES, SIR.

THE, UM, VOLUNTEERS ARE PUTTING UP 300,000 AND, UH, WE'RE LOANING THEM 300,000 THAT THEY'LL PAY BACK OVER 20 YEARS.

I BELIEVE IT'S 15 YEARS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION MR. MARQUEZ? OKAY THEN.

SORRY, MARK.

YOU ALL RIGHT.

DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN? I MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL THREE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. SECOND.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

GREAT.

ALRIGHT.

NOW WE MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL HAVE MS. ROCKER FOR OUR FIRST STYLE

[1. 5313: Public Hearing to Consider the Proposed 2022 Real Estate Tax Rate, 6:00]

EVENING.

MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, BARBARA HORLOCKER DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

WE HAVE FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT ON BUDGET RELATED ITEMS. UM, THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS TO CONSIDER THE AT 22 CALENDAR YEAR 2022 REAL ESTATE TAX RATE.

UM, AND SO DUE TO AN INCREASE IN ASSESSMENTS AND BECAUSE THIS BUDGET IS BASED ON UNCHANGED RATE OF 53 CENTS PER HUNDRED DOLLARS OF VALUE, UM, WE HAVE ADVERTISE AND EFFECTIVE TAX RATE INCREASE OF 10.4%.

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AND, UM, AS I SAID, THE TAX RATE WILL REMAIN ACCORDING TO THIS BUDGET AT 53 CENTS.

AND ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT'S OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

DOES IT LOOK LIKE ANY, OKAY.

OKAY.

I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

OKAY.

SEEING NONE I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY.

OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, UM, IS ON THE TOTAL COUNTY

[2. 5314: Public Hearing to Consider the Proposed Fiscal Year 2023 County Budget,]

BUDGET, THE 25 YEARS CIP AND ALL OTHER TAX RATES, UM, NOT INCLUDING THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE.

SO, UM, A LOT OF NUMBERS BEFORE YOU, UM, THIS IS THE TOTAL COUNTY ALL FUNDS BUDGET, UM, AND SOME OF THE NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED A BIT SINCE THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT IN A MINUTE.

UM, THIS IS OUR Y 23 CAPITAL BUDGET BROKEN OUT BY FUNCTIONAL AREA.

UM, TO SUMMARIZE, UM, THE NUMBERS.

WE HAVE A $16 MILLION CAPITAL BUDGET FOR FY 23.

UM, AND NOW I WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ANY CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE SINCE FEBRUARY.

AND, UM, WE WILL, UH, INCORPORATE THOSE INTO THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'LL BE PRESENTED, UM, TO VOTE ON, ON APRIL 19TH.

SO, UM, WHEN I SAY AMENDMENTS, I'M TALKING TO OVERALL CHANGES IN THE BUDGET, ANYTHING THAT MAY HAVE INCREASED THE TOTAL BUDGET, AND THERE WERE REALLY ONLY TWO TO THE TOTAL BUDGET NUMBERS.

ONE WAS ON THE COUNTY SIDE WHERE WE, UM, INCREASED OUR DEBT SERVICE TO MATCH THE DEBT SERVICE SCHEDULE OF THE 2022 GEO BONDS.

UM, BECAUSE WHEN WE DID THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE DIDN'T KNOW THE FINAL DEBT SERVICE NUMBERS.

UM, AND ALSO THERE ARE SOME SCHOOL BUDGET CHANGES, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU ON THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE DID INCREASE THE DEBT SERVICE, UH, IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE FUNDED BY PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.

THE, UM, SCHOOL FUNDS, YOU SEE THE SCHOOL OPERATING FUND INCREASED SLIGHTLY THAT WHEN IT SAYS LOCAL REVENUES, THAT DOESN'T MEAN LOCAL TRANSFER.

THAT MEANS, UM, LOCAL REV CON REVENUES THAT AREN'T STATE OR FEDERAL AND, UM, BUT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE TRANSFERS.

THE SCHOOL CAFETERIA FUNDS SLIGHTLY INCREASE.

AND THEN THE SCHOOL FEDERAL GRANTS FUND IS A $264,000 INCREASE FOR MORE FEDERAL FUNDS.

UM, SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ACTUALLY CHANGE THE TOTAL BUDGET NUMBERS.

UM, AND THEN ALSO THERE'S SOME OTHER CHANGES THAT DON'T IMPACT TOTAL NUMBERS.

SO IN, UM, IN REVIEWING ALL THE BUDGET AND WORKING WITH THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE ON VARIOUS, UM, VALUES FOR PERSONAL PROPERTY, UM, AND THE PROPOSED BUDGET, WE SAID THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO LOWER THE PERSONAL PROPERTY RATE FROM 3 95 TO 3 85 AND IN REVIEWING VALUES AND DOING SOME MORE CALCULATIONS.

UM, WE HAVE, UM, CONCLUDED THAT WE CAN LOWER THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE TO 3 75, WHICH WOULD BE A 20 CENT PER A HUNDRED DOLLARS VALUE DECREASE AND STILL KEEP, UM, OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY NUMBERS, UM, THE WAY THEY WERE IN THE ORIGINAL BUDGETS.

SO, UM, THERE WILL BE A C THAT IS IN THE INCLUDED NOW IN THE BUDGET, ALSO SOME TRANSFERS INTERNALLY AND WITHIN THE BUDGET, SO THAT DIDN'T OVER INCLUDE THE OVERALL, UM, IT DOESN'T INCREASE THE OVERALL BUDGET, BUT THE LIBRARY WILL BE FUNDED AT ABOUT $565,000.

AND THIS WILL ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR FOUR ADDITIONAL OPEN HOURS.

SO, UM, THE LIBRARY WILL BE ABLE TO STAY OPEN TILL 9:00 PM MONDAYS THROUGH THURSDAYS.

SO IN WORKING WITH THE LIBRARY, WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THAT PLAN.

UM, ALSO ALL THE APPROVED POSITIONS HAVE BEEN MOVED UP INTO THE SALARY AND BENEFITS OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

AND IN TERMS OF MERIT INCREASES, WE HAD OUR ALWAYS PROPOSED, UM, A INCREASE FOR ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES OF 3%.

AND WE WERE ALSO ABLE, UM, TO WORK IN, UM, AN ADDITIONAL 2% FOR ALL COUNTY EMPLOYEES THAT ARE NOT UNIFORMED PUBLIC SAFETY, WHO RECEIVED, UM, INCREASES IN THE FY 22 BUDGET.

SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE MAJOR CHANGES IN TERMS OF THE TAX RATES.

YOU CAN SEE THE 3 75 AS REFLECTED ON HERE.

AND OF COURSE, UM, WE EARLIER IN THE YEAR HAD CHANGED

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THE VOLUNTEER FIRE RESCUE, UM, PERSONAL RATE, UM, THAT CHANGING THE PERSONAL PROPERTY RATE TO 3 75 ALSO LOWERS THE RATE ON AIRCRAFT AND BOATS.

AND YOU SEE THAT THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT RATE IS UNCHANGED AT 32 CENTS.

SO THAT WAS A QUICK REVIEW OF EVERYTHING.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, THANK YOU, MISS ALLEGRA, BACK ON THE LIBRARY, MAYBE IT'S JUST THE WAY IT WAS WORDED ON THE SLIDE, BUT THEREFORE THIS PROPOSAL IS FOUR NIGHTS A WEEK OPEN ADDITIONAL THREE HOURS, IS THAT CORRECT? THEY ARE ACTUALLY OPEN TIL EIGHT O'CLOCK CURRENTLY, SO THEY WILL NOW BE OPEN UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK.

SO THEY, THE CURRENT HOURS OR 60 HOURS A WEEK, IT WILL NOW BE 64 HOURS A WEEK.

AND MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, THERE'LL BE OPEN UNTIL 9:00 PM.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY, MR. BREACHES THERE, JUST AGAIN, MAYBE TO READ THIS IN THE RECORD, THE, UH, THE, UH, CHANGE IN THE DEBT SERVICE, UM, AN AMOUNT, UM, ARE THE DEBT THAT WE JUST ISSUED, THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS ARE OUR FIXED RATES.

THERE IS NO FLOATING RATES.

THERE'S NO EXPOSURE THERE TO INCREASES IN INTEREST RATES, CORRECT.

IT'S JUST THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THE FINAL NUMBERS BEFORE WE ISSUED THE DEBT, SO, RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

IF NOT, I'LL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.

UM, MY NAME IS KAREN HORN.

I LIVE AT 3,205 DOUBLE BROOK ROAD.

I AM ALSO THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER REPRESENTING DISTRICT THREE.

JUST WANTED TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ON THIS PROCESS THAT BEGINS ALMOST AS SOON AS WE APPROVE ONE BUDGET.

WE ARE BEGINNING, UH, THE, UH, BUILDING OF THE NEEDS BASED BUDGETS.

AND IT'S BEEN VERY IMPRESSIVE TO SEE WHETHER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM AN AGENCY OR DEPARTMENT OR A DIVISION, ALL OF THE PROVIDERS OF SERVICES IN OUR COUNTY, WHAT THEY HAVE PRESENTED TO YOU, UM, FOR THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT THIS PROCESS IS REALLY VERY REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE WE KNOW, AS I SAID, IS THAT BUDGET PROCESS BEGINS.

IT BEGINS AT THE CLOSEST LEVEL.

IT BEGINS WITHIN THOSE OFFICES, THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH THE CITIZENS OF GOOCHLAND COUNTY, WHETHER THEY BE CHILDREN OR SENIOR CITIZENS.

AND SO THEY DISCUSS, WHAT DO WE STILL NEED? WHAT ARE THE CHANGING NEEDS? BECAUSE WE'VE HAD CHALLENGES YEAR AFTER YEAR.

SO AGAIN, IT'S A VERY IMPRESSIVE PROCESS AND IT IS TRULY OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE.

AND I THANK YOU FOR REPRESENTING US ALL AS YOU WORK TO SUPPORT AND APPROVE THE BUDGETS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

ANYONE ELSE? JOHN 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.

UH, THANK YOU GUYS.

UM, I HAD A CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY WITH, UH, ONE OF THE LOUISA COUNTY, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, AND HE MADE A COMMENT THAT 70% OF WHAT THEIR BOARD DOES IS BUDGET BUDGET RELATED.

SO THE, THE FOLLOW THE MONEY AS A PHRASE, YOU'LL HEAR OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING BECAUSE THAT DOES A BUDGET SHOW PRIORITIES.

AND I'M APPRECIATIVE THAT MY BIG THREE ARE TRANSPORTATION EDUCATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND, UM, MAYBE NOT SO MUCH TRANSPORTATION TO GETTING THERE.

UH, BUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND EDUCATION ARE SIGNIFICANT PARTS OF WHAT YOU FOLKS AND DARE I SAY, THE COUNTY HAS, HAS WORKED ON.

AND SO, UM, I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THREE MINUTES CAUSE I JUST STAY HERE AND SAY, THANK YOU FOR THE NEXT TWO MINUTES AND 13 SECONDS.

AND, UH, YEAH, ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S NOT SO BAD, IS IT? UH, BUT NO, I, I, I TRULY HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE SAUSAGE-MAKING GOING ON AND DO APPRECIATE IT.

AND WHETHER OR NOT 70% OF, OF Y'ALL'S EFFORTS ARE OUR BUDGET RELATED OR NOT, MIGHT BE MORE ACTUALLY, UH, I, I DO APPRECIATE IT CAUSE, UH, UH, I TELL PEOPLE I'M LIVING THE DREAM.

I LIVE IN GOOCHLAND.

I'M HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO BE NOT BECAUSE I HAVE TO BE.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

UM, AND JUST AS WAS COMMENTED, YOU'RE GOING TO START ON THIS IN WHAT, TWO MORE WEEKS.

SO, WELL, MAYBE WEEK AND A HALF.

IT DEPENDS ON, UH, WHAT THE VOTE IS TOMORROW, IF NOT ALREADY TODAY.

SO THANK YOU FOLKS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

HMM.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

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LET'S SING ANY OTHER WE'RE CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

OUR NEXT TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE ON ORDINANCE

[3. 5324: Ordinance amending County Code Sec. 13-63 (Exemption of real estate]

CHANGES AND THE FIRST ONE, UH, ORDINANCE CHANGE HAS TO DO WITH INCREASING THE REAL ESTATE TAX RELIEF FOR THE, UM, ELDERLY AND DISABLED PROGRAMS. SO, UM, THIS BUDGET INCLUDES, UM, PEOPLE THAT QUALIFY FOR OUR SENIOR OR SENIOR OR DISABLED PROGRAM, UM, WILL NOW BE EXEMPT FROM $1,000 IN REAL ESTATE TAXES INCREASE FROM $900.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? DON'T SEE ANY, OKAY.

I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I CAN'T RESIST, UH, JONATHAN 1521, MAN.

I CAN READ, I REFERENCED A CONVERSATION I HAD WITH A SUPERVISOR FROM LOUISA ON THAT AMENDMENT THAT YOU ALL ARE CONSIDERING.

HE COMMENTED THAT LISA HAD DOUBLED THE EXEMPTION THAT THEY MADE AVAILABLE.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THROWING DOWN A GAUNTLET OR ANYTHING, BUT THEY DID DOUBLE THEIR EXEMPTION AND YEAH.

WELL, I'LL GIVE HIM YOUR NUMBER IF YOU WANT TO CALL.

SO I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT, UH, THE SAFETY NET OF, OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE.

THIS IS MY THREE MINUTES.

OH, I'M GETTING A LITTLE, I'M GOING TO SIT DOWN NOW.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. AND WHAT ELSE? OKAY.

I'LL CLOSE.

THE PUBLIC HEARING

[4. 5323: Ordinance amending the County Fee Schedule, Appendix C to the County]

AND OUR FINAL PHONE PUBLIC HEARING IS ON PROPOSED FEE CHANGES.

UM, THE FIRST, UM, B CHANGES AND INCREASE IN THE BASE RESIDENTIAL PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL PERMIT FEE TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

THE SECOND CHANGE IS TO ADD A $50 FEE.

IF YOU REQUEST A $30 30 DAY EXTENSION OF A TEMPORARY OCCUPANCY PERMIT.

AND THE THIRD CHANGE IS TO AMEND THE FIREWORKS PERMANENT FEE TO ADD AN HOURLY CHARGE FOR THE FIRE, MARSHALL'S TIME OVER THREE HOURS.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER FEE CHANGES HAVE TO DO WITH UTILITIES.

SO, UM, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE INCREASE THE, UM, BI-MONTHLY VOLUME AND SERVICE CHARGES FOR WATER 3% AND FOR WASTEWATER 4%, WHICH WOULD RESOLVE IN AN AVERAGE BY MONTHLY INCREASE OF $3 AND 88 CENTS.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON FEE CHANGES? YEAH.

OKAY.

SO MS. HORLACKER, WOULD YOU, UM, WHAT, WHAT IS THE REASON FOR INCREASING THE, UM, UH, BASE RESIDENTIAL, UM, PERMIT FEES TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND THE, UH, $50 30 DAY EXTENSION, UM, TO ATTEND? UM, BASICALLY, UM, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT TO RECOUP OUR COSTS BECAUSE THE FEE WAS, UM, THE BASE FEE WAS ONLY $30 BEFORE, SO TO RECOUP OUR COSTS FOR, UM, PERMITS AND, UM, THE 30 DAY EXTENSION, I'M NOT REALLY SURE ABOUT, I GUESS, UM, I'LL LET JOANNE SPEAK TO THEM.

GOOD EVENING.

JOANNE HUNTER, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

UM, SO FOR THE, THE FIRST ONE, THE BASE RESIDENTIAL PLUMBING AND MECHANICAL FEE, WE WERE BENCHMARKING, AS YOU CAN RECALL, UH, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, WE REDUCED ALL OUR BUILDING, UM, INSPECTION FEES.

UM, BUT WE DID BENCHMARK AGAINST ALL OF THE OTHER ONES.

IT, IT USED TO BE MUCH MORE COMPLICATED.

YOU PAID A $30 FEE, AND THEN DEPENDING ON THE PRICE OF THE, OF THE WORK YOU DO HAD A LITTLE EXTRA FEE AND TWO, THIS MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE UNIFORM IT'S IT'S STREAMLINED.

UM, SO THE FEE IS NOT REALLY CHANGING, BUT IT'S JUST BECOMING A LITTLE LESS COMPLEX ON HOW YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT TO SOMEBODY.

UM, AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING IS THAT, UM, PEOPLE WHO GET A TEMPORARY CEO THAT'S FOR UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES, UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE A TIMEFRAME AND THEN THEY'RE STILL NOT READY.

SO THERE IS SOME COST OF HAVING TO GO OUT THERE, CHECKING IT.

IT'S NOT READY HAVING TO GO BACK OUT THERE AGAIN.

SO IT'S SORT OF JUST A INCENTIVE FOR THEM IF THEY HAVE A TEMPORARY CEO TO, TO GET THE PROJECT DONE AT THAT TIME.

RIGHT.

UM, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, ARE THOSE DELAYS CAUSED BY NOT BEING ABLE TO GET MATERIALS WITH SO-CALLED SUPPLY

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CHAIN DISRUPTIONS AND THAT KIND OF THING? UM, NOT NECESSARILY USUALLY, UH, THE TEMPORARY IS, UM, FOR SOME SORT OF ON USUAL, I GUESS THERE COULD BE SOME SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, BUT TYPICALLY THEY'RE NOT AT THE POINT OF GETTING A TCO TCO, IF THEY HAVE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, IT'S SOMETHING TYPICALLY LIKE, UM, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOR, UH, A BUSINESS MAY HAVE EVERYTHING IN, EXCEPT FOR THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PAVE THEIR HANDICAP PARKING SPACE BECAUSE THE WEATHER HASN'T ALLOWED FOR IT.

AND SO THEY GET A TEMPORARY, IT'S TYPICALLY MORE WEATHER RELATED OR SOME UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCE.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

JUST, I'M JUST THINKING OF FOLKS WHO MIGHT ALREADY BE, YOU KNOW, UH, VANTAGE, IF YOU WILL, BECAUSE OF THINGS OUT OF THEIR CONTROL.

RIGHT.

AND WHEN WE ISSUE A TEMPORARY CEO, UM, WE WORK WITH THEM ON THE TIME IT'S A TYPICALLY A 30 DAY CAUSE IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING MINOR THAT THEY COULDN'T GET DONE BECAUSE OF WEATHER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

UM, BUT IF IT WAS A SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUE AND THEY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET, YOU KNOW, THE FIRE SIGNS.

AND FOR 60 DAYS WE WOULD GIVE US 60 DAYS TCO.

SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE JUST A 30 DAY CTCL, THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR SITUATIONS.

OKAY.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING CONCERNED.

CAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, DISTRESSED IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD BECAUSE OF ISSUES OUT OF THEIR CONTROL.

AND THEN NOW WE'RE ADDING KNOW $50, ISN'T THE END OF THE WORLD, BUT YOU KNOW, ANOTHER $50, WE ARE SEEING A LOT OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY EARLY IN THE PROJECT, UM, PARTICULARLY LIKE STORMWATER PIPES AND WINDOWS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, THEY WOULDN'T BE AT A TCO STAGE IF THEY COULDN'T GET THOSE THINGS.

SO, AND WHEN DO WE ISSUE A TCO THAT'S MEANS THAT IT'S, THEY'RE GETTING THEY'RE READY TO BE OCCUPIED, SO THAT'S THEIR FINAL PERMIT.

OKAY.

SO, AND THAT BEING SAID, WHAT, IT'S THE SAME THING YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER? THE SPACE IS SAFE TO OCCUPIED, BUT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT STILL NEEDS TO, RIGHT.

WHETHER IT'S LANDSCAPING OR YEAH.

OFTEN IT'S LANDSCAPING OR FINAL GRADING OR SOMETHING, AND IT'S TYPICALLY WEATHER RELATED.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

I JUST, YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

HOPING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JONATHAN LEE, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.

AND I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION BECAUSE I WAS SCRATCHING MY HEAD.

WHY WOULD WE CHARGE $50 FOR A $30 EXTENSION? AND WHAT I, MY INTERPRETATION IS WE'RE NOW CHARGING SOMEBODY BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER, UM, THAT THERE'S WEATHER DELAYS, THAT THEY CAN'T GET, WHATEVER LANDSCAPING OR SEATING OR SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A PERMANENT OCCUPANCY.

I DID THE MATH IN MY HEAD.

AND SO IF WE'RE DOING A HUNDRED OF THESE YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE ANOTHER $5,000 IN REVENUE AND A GOVERNMENT THAT DOES THE LEAST GOVERNS THE BEST.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT IS A REQUIREMENT? AND IF IT IS AN ISSUE AND WE REALLY HAVE, BECAUSE THERE IS CONSTRUCTION GROWTH GOING ON IN THE COUNTY, IF THIS IS HAPPENING A LOT, I DON'T KNOW, IS THERE A SOLUTION MAYBE ALONG THE LINES OF MS. LASKA LAB THAT WE EXTEND IT FROM 30 TO 60 TO 90, AND JUST SAY THE WEATHER HAPPENS.

WE NOBODY THAT I'M AWARE OF HAS THAT IN CONTROL.

AND IT'S JUST ONE LESS PIECE OF PAPERWORK THAT HAS TO BE FOLLOWED UP ON, BUT AS WISCONSIN AT 50 BUCKS IS NOT GOING TO JUST BANKRUPT SOMEBODY, AT LEAST I HOPE NOT, BUT IS IT JUST ONE MORE THING IN THE ORDINANCE BOOK, WHICH IS PRETTY HEALTHY AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND, UM, THAT'S JUST THE CITIZENS COMMENT THAT YOU, UH, OPENED YOURSELVES UP TO.

AND HERE I AM SITTING DOWN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. LYLE.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IF I MAY BOARD MEMBERS.

I DO NOT RECALL THE DETAILS OF THIS, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A SITUATION RECENTLY WHERE GARY FELT SOMEBODY WAS SORT OF ABUSING THIS PROCESS AND JUST TO KEEP EXTENDING A TCO AND NOT REALLY WORKING TO GET WHATEVER WAS DONE.

AND I REMEMBER HE MADE MY OFFICE AWARE OF IT, BUT HE DIDN'T NEED US TO JUMP IN AND DO ANYTHING.

AND SO I THINK THERE IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, $50 ISN'T THE WORLD EITHER.

THAT TAKES A LOT OF STAFF TIME WHEN SOMEBODY DOESN'T MOVE SOMETHING FORWARD.

SO THERE'S A MIX OF THERE'S A LITTLE BIT HERE TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE WORKING TO GET SOMETHING DONE THAT COMES BACK TO US.

IF WE DO HAVE TO DO THAT ADDITIONAL INSPECTION TO GIVE YOU THE EXTENSION.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE ELEMENT OF THAT

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TO THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK I CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I'M NOT SURE I DID.

OKAY.

THANKS.

I KNOW Y'ALL, DON'T WANT IT TO BE VERY CLOSELY.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT IS OUR LAST, UM, OUR LAST, UH, PUBLIC HEARING THESE, UH, WE WILL BE LOOKING TO PASS THE BUDGET ON TUESDAY, APRIL 19TH.

AND WITH THAT, I WILL ADJOURN THE BOARD, UH, THROUGH A CLOSED MEETING AT THE BOARD, WHICH WILL BE INTERVIEWING CANDIDATES

[X. Adjournment: The Board of Supervisors will adjourn as follows:]

FOR THE COUNTY POSITION OF COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AT AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION WITHIN THE NEXT 15 DAYS AS IS PERMISSIBLE UNDER STATE LAW, UH, TILL TUESDAY ACTUALLY WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE THE MEETING ON TUESDAY, APRIL 19TH, UH, TO APPROVE THE BUDGET.

AND THE TUESDAY, MAY 3RD, 1230 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING, WHICH IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

AND I'D LOVE YOU TO BE THERE.

AND THEN TUESDAY, MAY 3RD, 6:00 PM, UH, MEETING REGULAR BOARD MEETING AND THAT AS WELL AS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.