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WAITING FOR THE PHONE TO TURN TO.
NO, BUT I WENT TO THE MEETING.
[I. 2:00 PM - Call to Order]
LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO THE SEPTEMBER 6TH, 2:00 PM BUSINESS MEETING OF THE GUCCI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.UH, WE'LL START THIS MEETING LIKE WE DO ALL OF OUR MEETINGS WITH AN INVOCATION FROM, UH, DR.
FRANCIS EPISCOPAL CHURCH, AND A PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE LED TO US LED BY MS. LASETTE.
[II. Invocation: Rev. Dr. John F. Maher, Jr., St. Francis Episcopal Church]
THANK YOU.UM, LET ME JUST START OUT BY SAYING, AND SOME OF YOU HAVE MADE ME FEEL VERY WELCOME TO THIS, BUT LAST TIME I WAS SCHEDULED, I SHOWED UP ON THE WRONG DAY,
UH, PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR THAT, UM, LACK OF DILIGENCE IN MY CALENDAR.
I JUST WASN'T THAT I WAS TOO BUSY, I JUST DIDN'T SHOW UP ON THE CORRECT DAY, IS WHAT IT WAS.
SO THANK, THANK YOU FOR THAT AND FOR THE PERSON WHO LED THE INVOCATION ON THE CORRECT DAY THAT DAY, THANK YOU.
OH GOD, THE FOUNTAIN OF WISDOM, WHOSE WILL IS GOOD AND GRACIOUS, AND WHOSE LAW IS TRUTH.
WE ASK YOU SO TO GUIDE AND BLESS OUR SUPERVISORS ASSEMBLED HERE WITH WISDOM AND LIFE AND ABILITY AND CAPACITY THAT THEY MAY ENACT SUCH LAWS AS SHOULD PLEASE YOU.
AND WE ASK FOR THE PROVISION OF CONTINUED HEALTH, STRENGTH, WHOLENESS, AND HEALING INTO THE LIVES OF ALL WHO ARE MAKING DECISIONS HERE TODAY.
ALL THE SUPERVISORS, ALL THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND OFFICIALS, AND EVERYONE WHO LIVES IN GOLAND COUNTY.
AND WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD DO THAT TO THE GLORY OF YOUR NAME AND THE WELFARE OF ALL YOUR PEOPLE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD AH AMEN.
[III. Pledge of Allegiance]
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOUNDATION, GOD, JUSTICE, STRONG.AND THANK YOU MS. LAST COLETTE.
UM, FOR THE CHAIRS COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO
[IV. Chair's Comments]
LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT WE HAVE SCHEDULED OUR TOWN HALL MEETINGS, UH, FOR THE FALL.OUR DISTRICT ONE MEETING WILL BE THURSDAY, OCTOBER 13TH AT 6:30 PM AT BYD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
DISTRICT'S TWO AND THREE WILL BE MONDAY, OCTOBER 17TH AT 6:30 PM RIGHT HERE IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.
AND DISTRICT'S FOUR AND FIVE WILL BE WEDNESDAY AT THE RESIDENCE IN AT THE NOTCH.
UH, WE WOULD LOVE ALL THE PUBLIC TO COME OUT, UH, AND, UH, PARTICIPATE AND GIVE US, UH, AND, AND LET US HEAR FROM YOU, AND YOU CAN HEAR, UH, WHAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY.
UM, WOULD ALSO LIKE TO, UH, ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO GO OUT TO NIGHT AT TUCKER A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
ABOUT 300 OR SO PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
MR. CARPENTER IS THAT 400 PEOPLE SHOWED UP.
SO GREAT TIME, GREAT FOOD BANDS.
IT WAS A REALLY GREAT, IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THE COMMUNITY OUT.
SO WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE COMING UP TUESDAY THE 10TH.
SO WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL, UH, TAKE YOUR TIME TO MAKE IT OUT.
UM, ALSO, I DID WANT TO COMMENT FOR YEARS I WORKED IN THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRY AND WE WENT, UNDERWENT A LOT OF AUDITS.
AUDITS ARE, UM, CHALLENGING AND THEY ARE, UH, VERY, UH, NERVE WRACKING.
AND THE HIGHEST GRADE YOU CAN GET ON AN AUDIT IS, UM, ACCEPTABLE.
SO FOR A BUNCH OF OVERACHIEVERS, GETTING AN ACCEPTABLE RATING IS NOT, UH, IT DOESN'T FEEL GREAT.
BUT I DID WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE, OUR OUR, UH, THERE WAS AN AUDIT OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS DONE FOR OUR TREASURER, OUR COMMISSIONER OF REV REVENUE AND OUR SHERIFF, AND THEY ALL RECEIVED ADEQUATE AUDITS.
AND JUST, AGAIN, A TESTAMENT THAT EVERY WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERY PART OF GIN COUNTY IS, IS EXTREMELY WELL MANAGED.
AND HERE COMES THE SHERIFF NOW.
SO LET'S GIVE THE SHERIFF A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR HIS AUDIT.
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ALL THAT'S, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, POINT OUT, UH, TO THE, UH, BOARD, UM, COUPLE THINGS AS WELL.
UH, OF COURSE COMING UP, UH, THIS, UH, SUNDAY, SEPTEMBER 11TH IS THE ANNUAL REMEMBRANCE EVENTS THAT ARE HELD BY OUR FIRE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.
[V. County Administrator's Comments]
THERE ARE TWO EVENTS THAT DAY, BOTH OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.UH, THE FIRST IS AT 9 45 IN THE MORNING AT COMPANY FIVE FIREHOUSE ON FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.
THE SECOND IS THE 7:00 PM A COMPANY ONE FIREHOUSE ON RIVER ROAD WEST.
AGAIN, TWO EVENTS BOTH SEPTEMBER 11TH AND REMEMBRANCE OF THE HEROES FOR THAT DAY.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT, UH, SEPTEMBER 29TH, THERE WILL BE A COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, REGARDING THE LOUISA AND GUC BORDER, UH, REEVALUATIONS AT, UH, COMPANY SIX FIRE STATION.
AND THE COMING UP ON NOVEMBER 1ST IS THE ANNUAL EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION LUNCHEON.
UH, THAT'LL RUN FROM, UH, UH, 1130 TO ONE 30.
AT THIS TIME BOARD, YOU HAVE THE AGENDA IN FRONT OF YOU.
ANY REQUESTS TO POSTPONE, ADD, DELETE, CHANGE AROUND
[VI. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the]
SEEING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.THIS IS A TIME FOR FOLKS TO COME AND, UH, SPEAK TO
[VII. Citizen Comment]
US FOR THREE MINUTES, OR YOU CAN SPEAK LESS IF YOU WANT, UM, ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S, UH, PERTINENT TO GSON COUNTY THAT'S NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA.AND, UM, WE JUST ASK THAT YOU COME, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND, UH, PLEASE SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.
AND YELLOW LIGHT WILL GO OFF WHEN YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT.
AND SO WE THANK ANYBODY AND I WILL OPEN CITIZEN COMMENT.
I'M PRESIDENT OF BOONE HOLMES.
UM, WE'RE A BOONE HOMES, UM, WHERE GLAND BASED BUSINESS LOCATED AT 62 BROAD STREET ROAD MANNEQUIN S UM, I WANTED TO COME, UM, SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT THIS TODAY.
UM, I KNOW ALL OF YOU'RE BUSY AND MODIFYING BUILDER DEVELOPER REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S NOT AN EASY CONVERSATION FOR ANYONE.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO SHARE WHAT WE WERE ABOUT TO BE REQUIRED TO DO IN MOSAIC SECTION EIGHT.
IN REGARDS TO SIDEWALK ORDINANCE, AS A BELIEVE MOST OF YOU A NOTE, WE ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE ALL OUR SIDEWALK INSTALLED PRIOR TO 50% OF BUILDING PERMITS FOR OUR SECTION SECTION.
EIGHT 50% IS MAXING OUT AT 24 BUILDING PERMITS.
TO DATE, WE HAVE RECEIVED APPROVALS FOR 19 BUILDING PERMITS.
WE HAVE THREE BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE TWO ADDITIONAL CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE SIGNED THAT WILL BE READY TO SUBMIT FOR BUILDING PERMITS WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
LASTLY, WE EXPECT TO HAVE THREE TO FOUR CONTRACTS THIS MONTH BASED ON OUR CURRENT CONVERSATIONS WITH CUSTOMERS.
UM, BUT THIS PUTS US AT THE 50% MARK WITHIN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS.
I HAD MY TEAM TAKE A RECENT DRONE VIDEO OF OUR SECTION TO SHOW THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION PROGRESS THAT I'VE SENT TO CHAIRMAN SPOON HOWARD.
UM, BUT I WOULD AL ALSO BE HAPPY TO SEND TO THE REST OF THE BOARD AS WELL.
WHAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE FROM THE VIDEO IS THAT WE, WE ARE STILL SEVERAL MONTHS AWAY FROM HAVING CUSTOMERS IN OUR HOUSES IN THE SECTION BASED ON OUR CURRENT PROJECTIONS.
THE BEST CASE SCENARIO TO HAVE A CUSTOMER IS PROBABLY NOVEMBER, DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR.
BUT THAT COULD EASILY BE MOVED BACK DEPENDING ON DOMINION POWER OR COLUMBIA GAS INSTALLS.
IN ORDER TO NOT HOLD UP PROGRESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I WILL HAVE TO INSTALL THE ENTIRETY OF THIS SIDEWALK IN THE SECTION WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
THE COST TO INSTALL THE SIDEWALK IS COMING IN AT $228,871 FOR 3,700 LINEAR FEET OF FIVE FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK.
THIS EQUATES TO $4,670 PER HOUSE.
I HOPE THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE FROM THE DRONE VIDEO THAT I SEND OUT, THAT, UM, THAT THE VAST MAJORITY, IF NOT ALL THE SIDEWALK THAT WILL BE INSTALLED WILL ULTIMATELY BE DESTROYED BY CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.
WE ARE PROJECTING THAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE DEMO AND REINSTALLATION OF ALL OF THE SIDEWALK THAT WE INSTALL.
I REALIZE THAT MODIFYING THE ORDINANCE IS NOT A HIGH PRIORITY ITEM FOR THE BOARD, BUT I DID WANT TO BRING IT UP AND EX AND EXPLAIN THE ISSUE A LITTLE BIT BETTER FOR ALL OF YOU.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, I KNOW IT'S NOT AT THE RIGHT TIME NOW, BUT, UM, PLEASE, UM, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL ME AND I'LL EMAIL EVERYONE THAT DRONE VIDEO.
ANYONE ELSE? GOOD, A GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD.
JONATHAN LYLE, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
UH, I AM CHAIRMAN OF THE MO SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN A GLAND FARM BUREAU DIRECTOR, AND I HAVE BEEN CHASTISED TO MAKE SURE I SAY WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS ME AS AN INDIVIDUAL AND NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF EITHER BOARD.
SO, UH, YOU WILL KNOW IF IT IS A BOARD, UH, COMMENT.
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JUST, UH, ME AS A CITIZEN.UM, I, I'VE GOTTEN, UH, TO A POINT WHERE I REALLY DO TRY AND WORK ON SAYING THANK YOU MORE THAN CRITICIZING.
AND WHILE NEITHER MS. HORLOCKER OR MS. HUNTER ARE HERE, I DO WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE TIME AND THE EFFORT AND THE RESULTS THAT THEY PUT INTO THE COUNTY'S EFFORTS HERE.
SO THEY'RE NOT HERE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'RE LIVE STREAMING, BUT IF THEY ARE, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT THEY DID.
I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN A TREMENDOUS HELP, UH, BOTH THEIR FARM BUREAU AND ALSO TO MONICA DISTRICT AND, AND THOSE COMMENTS.
SO I HOPE STAND ON THEIR OWN, BUT THEY ARE MY COMMENTS, NOT THE BOARDS.
SO, UH, JUST AS A PASSING, THERE IS A WELL WATER TESTING, UH, UM, SYMPOSIUM OR OPPORTUNITY ON, UH, THE 19TH OF THIS MONTH.
THIS IS VIRGINIA COOPERATIVE EXTENSION.
YOU CAN GO ONTO THE COUNTY WEBSITE, FOLLOW THE LINK ON THE VIRGINIA COOPERATIVE EXTENSION, AND YOU CAN ENROLL AND GET YOUR WELL WATER TESTED.
THIS IS IMPORTANT, I THINK, TO EVERY CITIZEN IN THE COUNTY, BUT ALSO AS IT PERTAINS TO AGRICULTURE.
ON OCCASION, PEOPLE WILL SAY, WELL, THIS PRODUCER HAS PUT DOWN SOIL AMENDMENTS, ALSO KNOWN AS FERTILIZER, UM, AND IT'S MESSED UP MY WELL WATER.
AND MY QUESTION ALWAYS IS, WHAT WAS YOUR WELL WATER BEFORE THE AMENDMENTS WERE PUT DOWN? AND THEY USUALLY, WHY? I DON'T KNOW.
BUT MY PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS DRANK THIS WATER AND IT WAS GREAT.
THIS GET IT TESTED, AND THEN WE GOT A BENCHMARK.
SO THAT WOULD BE THIS, UH, 19TH OF THIS MONTH.
UM, I WANNA FOLLOW UP ON THE COMMENTS ON AUDITS.
UH, ROBINSON FARMER COX JUST COMPLETED THEIR BIANNUAL, OR I'M SORRY, BIUM AUDIT.
WE GET AUDITED EVERY TWO YEARS PER DCR AT MONICA DISTRICT.
AND, UM, WHILE WE WEREN'T AVERAGE OR ACCEPTABLE, UH, WE HAD NO WRITTEN COMMENTS AND A CLEAN AUDIT.
SO, UH, UH, WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE A COPY OF THAT IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN IT.
BUT, UH, WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT WE GET FROM THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, THIS IS A TESTIMONY THAT YOUR MONIES ARE BEING DEPLOYED AND IN A APPROPRIATED, OR I SHOULD SAY USED AS YOU INTENDED.
UM, I ALSO KNOW THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA, SO I'M NOT GONNA TRESPASS ON THE RULES, BUT I DO WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO EMILY GIBBS IN MS. MCGEE'S OFFICE FOR THEIR HELP WITH THE MOU THAT YOU'LL BE CONSIDERING.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'LL BE HAPPY OR NOT, DEPENDING ON THE VOTES YOU TAKE.
BUT, UH, WE DO APPRECIATE THEIR EFFORTS ON, ON BRINGING THIS TO YOUR, UH, TABLE FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND IF ANY OF YOU ARE FARM BUREAU MEMBERS AND RECEIVE THE SEPTEMBER ISSUE, I WOULD CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION THE ARTICLE.
IT'S VALUABLE ASSET USE TAXATION BENEFITS LANDOWNERS.
AND THERE'S ONE COMMENT IN HERE I'M GONNA READ.
IT SAYS, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TYPICALLY REQUIRES A DOLLAR 25 TO A DOLLAR 50 IN SERVICES FOR EACH DOLLAR IN TAX REVENUE.
SO THE FARMING COMMUNITY IS SUBSIDIZING THROUGH THEIR TAX ASSESSMENTS, AS I UPON IS SAYING, COWS DO NOT CALL 9 1 1.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SERVICE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY, UH, SO FAR AS FIRE AND RESCUE LIBRARIES AND OTHER SIDE AND, AND THE SCHOOLS.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE, AND I KNOW THE FARMING COMMUNITY DOES TOO, YOUR CONTINUING TO USE, UH, AND APPLY THE LAND USE OPTION.
CUMBERLAND COUNTY JUST ELIMINATED ONE OF THEIR LAND USE OPTIONS FOR A TIMBER, AND THAT IS GOING TO INCREASE THE TAX RATE BY ABOUT $1,200 PER ACRE.
UH, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT REACTION FROM SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
SO WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE LAND USE, UH, TAX RATE.
IT REALLY DOES BENEFIT THE COUNTY, AND I THINK IT ALSO ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO CONTINUE TO GROW GRACEFULLY AS OPPOSED TO, UH, EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND, THERE'S ANOTHER ROW OF CONDOS GOING UP.
I DON'T SEE ANY LIGHTS BLINK, BUT I'M GONNA SIT DOWN ANYWAY.
ANYONE ELSE FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? SEE NONE.
I'M GONNA CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
BOARD, UM, IN YOUR PACKET, WE RECEIVED OUR MEETING MINUTES FOR THE JULY 6TH MEETING AND THE AUGUST 2ND MEETING, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
[VIII. Approval of Action Minutes]
OKAY.UH, LET'S SEE, WHERE ARE WE OF THE, UH, JULY 6TH AND THE AUGUST 2ND BOARD SUPERVISOR MEETING? MINUTES SECOND.
MR. PETERSON, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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THANK YOU.ALL RIGHT, NOW WE MOVE ON TO OUR REPORTS, AND AS ALWAYS, WE WILL HEAR FROM OUR PARTNERS, ED VDOT,
[IX. Reports]
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER MARSHALL WIN WITH VDOT.[1. 5474: VDOT - September 2022]
HAD 232 WORK ORDERS COMPLETED 200 AND HAD 29 CALLOUTS AFTER HOUR.CALLOUTS COMPLETED A THIRD CYCLE OF PRIMARY MODE JUST LAST WEEK, UH, STARTED ON THE SECOND, UM, CYCLE OF SECONDARY MOW.
UH, TODAY THEY'RE STARTING UP IN THE SHANNON HILL AREA AND WILL WORK THEIR WAY AROUND THE COUNTY FROM THERE.
UH, DOING THE SAME TYPE OF WORK.
WE ALWAYS DO ASPHALT REPAIRS, DITCHING PIPE CLEANING, SHOULDER REPAIRS, DEBRIS AND TRASH PICKUP THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
UH, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF ITEMS ON THE, UM, STUDIES, UH, ROUTE SIX AT RIVER ROAD.
I SAID HAYDENVILLE FIVE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THE, THE COMPLETED REPORT ON THAT YET, BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I DOUBT ANYTHING WILL CHANGE OUT THERE.
UM, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER STUDY ON WESTVIEW WAITING FOR THAT INFORMATION TO COME BACK.
UH, SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT PAVEMENT MARKING WHITE HAUL ROAD.
IT'S GOT TEMPORARY PAYMENT MARKING.
UH, THE THERMOPLASTIC IS SCHEDULED TO BE DONE, BUT I, I GOT WITH A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER THIS MORNING, AND, UH, HE'S NOT SURE WHEN THEY'LL BE IN THE AREA TO PUT THE, UH, THERMOPLASTIC DOWN, BUT LONG AS WE HAVE TEMPORARY, UH, MARKINGS WERE GO GOOD.
IF IF THERE'S ANY FADING OUT THERE, LET ME KNOW.
AND IF CM SAID THAT THEY WOULD GET THE CONTRACTOR OUT THERE TO REFRESH THAT PAINT.
SO, OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD ANY QUESTIONS IN THIS LAST CUT? OKAY.
UM, ON WHITE HALL ROAD, THAT ROAD IS TOO NARROW FOR WHITE LINES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UM, I'VE GOT SEVERAL AHEAD QUESTIONS.
SO EVERY MONTH YOU COMPLETE A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF THE REQUESTS THAT YOU RECEIVE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS A FEW THEY DON'T GET DONE.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME, AND I'VE BEEN MEANING TO ASK YOU THIS FOR A WHILE, UH, THE ONES THAT AREN'T DONE, HOW BACK LOGGED ARE THEY? I MEAN, DO YOU, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE SOME THAT ARE 30 DAYS OLD OR 60 DAYS OLD OR? I, I, I'LL GET THAT INFORMATION AND SEND IT OUT TO YOU.
I'M JUST CURIOUS, YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING, MAYBE IT WAS REQUESTED MONTHS AGO AND JUST IT CAN'T GET DONE FOR WHATEVER REASON? YEAH, I MEAN, MOST OF THE ITEMS IN THE GOLAND AREA MM-HMM.
IF YOU GO INTO ANOTHER COUNTY, WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE BACKLOG MONTHS.
SO, BUT I'LL GET THAT INFORMATION.
UM, THERE WAS A, UM, QUESTION FROM A CITIZEN ABOUT A DITCH THAT HAD BEEN, UH, PUT IN A NEW DITCH.
ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT? WELL, UH, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, WHEN, WHEN THE GRADING WAS DONE AT THAT, UH, HOME, THEY GRADED IT FROM THE TOP OF THE HILL DOWN TO THE EDGE OF PAVEMENT AND COVERED THE DITCH UP.
SO AIR CREW WENT OUT THERE AND OPENED THE DITCH UP.
CAUSE WHAT WAS HAPPENING, IT WAS THE WATER WAS SHEET FLOWING OFF THE HILL AND GOING RIGHT INTO THE ROAD AND, AND WASHING DOWN THE EDGE OF THE ROAD.
SO, I MEAN, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH THAT CITIZEN.
AND LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE COME TO A CONCLUSION, I APPRECIATE, JUST FIND A WAY TO HAVE THE DRIVEWAY ACCESSIBLE.
UM, ALSO, UM, I HAVEN'T DRIVEN BY IN THE LAST FEW DAYS, BUT THAT MOWING AT PRIOR ROAD AT OH FIVE DONE, IT'S DONE.
MR. POR CUT PROBABLY 20 ROWS OF CORN OUT THERE.
REALLY? WE MOWED THE INTERSECTION AS WELL.
DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WAS DONE? I WAS AT THERE LAST WEEK AND SAW IT, SO IT WAS DONE PRIOR TO THAT.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE BEEN OUT THERE.
I'LL REALLY APPRECIATE THE UPDATES.
UM, I KNOW I'VE BEEN RINGING YOUR PHONE QUITE A BIT, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE, THE ASSISTANCE AND I'M HELPING GETTING FOLKS STRAIGHT, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW WE HAVE ANOTHER MO CREW COME IN AT A DIFFERENT AREA.
AND NOW, UM, ONE OF MY FAVORITE TIMES OF THE MONTH IS THE INTRODUCTION OF NEW COUNTY STAFF BY OUR HR DIRECTOR,
[2. 5461: Introduction of New County Staff]
SHEHA DYSON.SO, UM, AGAIN, GOOD AFTERNOON.
SHEHA DYSON, HR DIRECTOR FOR HUMAN RESOURCES.
UM, WE HAVE TWO NEW HIRES, UM, THAT WE WILL BE INTRODUCING.
SO ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE TWO NEW STAFF IN OUR FIRE AND RESCUE ON JULY 18TH, 2022.
TWO FIREFIGHTERS JOINED THE COUNTY,
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ANESA COOPER COMES TO THE COUNTY FROM FORT LEWIS FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHERE SHE VOLUNTEERS AS A FIREFIGHTER IN RON COUNTY.RYAN WALKER CURRENTLY VOLUNTEERS AT LEXINGTON FIRE DEPARTMENT AND BRINGS OVER SIX YEARS OF EXPERIENCE TO THE DEPARTMENT.
AND I WILL ASK IF THEY PLEASE STAND IF THEY PRESENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND WELCOME TO GUCCI.
NOW BOARD, THE NEXT TWO REPORTS ARE IN YOUR PACKET FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND ACCOUNTS PAYABLE.
[3. 5459: Planning and Development Activity]
CREATORS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.NOW WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT
[X. Consent Agenda]
AGENDA, AND AS ALWAYS, MR. CARPENTER WILL REVIEW EACH ITEM, AND THEN I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS A GROUP OR INDIVIDUALLY, DEPENDING ON THE BOARD'S.PLEASURE, MR. CARPENTER, MR. CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD IS, UH, THE CHAIRMAN SAID WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS TODAY.
THE FIRST ITEM ON THERE IS APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED GIN
[1. 5462: Approval of the Amended Goochland Powhatan Community Services]
BULLETIN COMMUNITY SERVICES PERFORMANCE CONTRACT WITH THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.UH, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY SIGNED ON SEPTEMBER 7TH, 2021.
UH, THE TRANSMITTAL LETTER OUTLINES EIGHT CHANGES TO PROVIDE CLARITY, REMOVE, OUTDATED OR REDUNDANT INFORMATION, AND ADD LANGUAGE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF NEW FEDERAL FUNDING REIMBURSEMENT MODEL.
THE SECOND ITEM THAT WE HAVE IS AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH A MO AND SOIL AND WATER DISTRICT.
UH, THIS IS REPLACING THE EXPIRED MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, UH, WHICH IS ATTACHED.
UH, THE PREVIOUS MOU WAS EFFECTIVE FROM AUGUST 22ND, 2020 SECOND OF 2017, AND EXPIRED ON AUGUST 22ND, 2022.
UH, THE, UH, MO AND SOIL AND WATER DISTRICT VOTED TO APPROVE THE MOU AT ITS AUGUST 15TH BOARD MEETING.
THE THIRD ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU IS A RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE 2022 RICHMOND CRATER MULTI-REGION HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN.
UM, THE HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN IS REQUIRED IN ORDER FOR A JURISDICTION TO BE ELIGIBLE, ELIGIBLE FOR FEMA HAZARD MITIGATION GRANT FUNDS THE GOALS THAT THE PLAN OR AS FOLLOWS, TO REDUCE THE LOSS OF LIFE AND INJURIES TO DEVELOP AND MAINTAIN PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INFRASTRUCTURE TO EDUCATE AND TRAIN OUR CITIZENS REGARDING VULNERABILITIES AND ENHANCE CAPABILITIES OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
WE ARE REQUIRED TO ADOPT THIS HAZARD MITIGATION PLANS BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE GRANT FUNDS.
THE PLAN MUST BE UPDATED EVERY FIVE YEARS, AND IT WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2017.
AND THE FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ADOPTION OF THE 2023 LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
UH, THERE ARE EIGHT ITEMS THAT WERE UP FOR CONSIDERATION.
AGAIN, ONE, SUPPORTING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF LOCAL AUTHORITY OVER MARIJUANA ESTABLISHMENTS.
SECOND ONE IS VERIFICATION OF SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS FOR VOTER REGISTRATIONS.
UH, THIRD IS THE, UH, SUPPORTING SOUND STRUCTURALLY BALANCED STATE BUDGET AND FISCAL PRACTICES.
THE FOURTH IS OPPOSED NEW UNFUNDED MANDATES AND SUPPORT THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A SUNSET CLAUSE ON EXISTING UNFUNDED MANDATES THAT ARE IMPOSED UPON LOCALITIES.
THE FIFTH IS SUPPORTING INCREASED FUNDING AND EXPANDED EFFORTS AND IMPLEMENTATION OF NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT IMPROVES AND EXPANDS.
IT IS AN ACCESS TO HIGH SPEED BROADBAND.
THE SIXTH ITEM WAS REQUESTING A STUDY OF THE COMPENSATION BOARD FUNDING FOR THE OFFICES OF CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, THE SEVENTH ITEM SUPPORTING THE PROTECTION OF EXISTING LOCAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITY IN ALL AREAS, SPECIFICALLY INCLUDING REVENUE STREAMS AND LOCAL LAND USE DECISIONS.
THE EIGHTH IS OPPOSING THE PASSAGE OF ANY STATE LAWS THAT INFRINGE UPON THE RIGHTS OF LAW ABIDING CITIZENS OF THE COMMONWEALTH UNDER THE SECOND AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
THOSE ARE THE EIGHT ITEMS THAT THE BOARD, UH, HAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.
ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION? UM, SO I DO, I, I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE ALL FOUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU MS. LASETTE.
THANK YOU MR. LUMPKINS DISCUSSION.
MS. LAS
SO I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE CONTRACT, UH, FOR THE GLAND POWER 10 COMMUNITY SERVICES BOARD AND VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME NEW REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UM, ADHERE TO SOME NEW GUIDELINES.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS IF IT HAS A BUDGET IMPACT, MS. LAS, UM, MS. LASETTE THE, UH, TO RECEIVE THE FEDERAL FUNDING? UH, WE HAD TO CHANGE THE WORDING IN THERE.
UH, IT WILL NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR BUDGET.
WE'VE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED $376,010.
SO, SO MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK INVOLVED, BUT IT'S NOT A BUDGET IMPACT.
THEY DON'T LIKE TO HAVE TO HIRE ANOTHER PERSON OR THAT KIND? THAT'S CORRECT.
AREA THAT MIGHT BE TO ADDRESS THEM.
THE ONLY COMMENT, THE ONLY COMMENT I'D LIKE TO MAKE IS JUST KIND
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OF EXPLAINING THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA JUST IN VERY BRIEFLY.SO EVERY YEAR WE MEET WITH OUR LEGISLATORS AND GET FEEDBACK FROM CITIZENS DEPARTMENTS, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, OFFICERS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS POTENTIALLY COMING IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE OF DELEGATES IN THE STATE SENATE IN RICHMOND THIS UPCOMING YEAR.
UM, AND LET THE INFORM THEM AS, AS A LOCALITY, WHETHER OR NOT WE'D LIKE THEM TO SUPPORT THE INITIATIVES COMING FORWARD OR, UH, OPPOSE THEM.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, UH, VIRGINIA IS A, FOR LOCALITIES IS A MOTHER MAY I STATE, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS A DI REAL ESTATE.
SO WHERE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THAT INFLUENCE IN OUR LEGISLATORS ARE OUTSTANDING AT MEETING WITH US AND, AND, AND CARRYING THAT LEGISLATION.
WE ALSO ASK THEM IF THERE'S A LEGISLATION NOT APPROVED OR, OR PROPOSED THAT THEY POTENTIALLY CARRY LEGISLATION FOR US IN THE PAST.
AND SEVERAL OF THEM, UM, AT LEAST MY TENURE, HAVE, HAVE DONE THAT.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A VERY VALUABLE EXERCISE.
IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME, AND I APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S WORK ON THIS AND ALL OTHER ITEMS AS WELL.
IF NOT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS AS APPROVED, AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I POST.
CONSENT AGENDA PASSES RIGHT NOW ON NEW BUSINESS.
VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE NEXT TOPIC, WHICH I KNOW PEOPLE ARE TRYING
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TO TUNE IN RIGHT NOW OVER THEIR CELL PHONES AND, UH, WHATEVER.BUT, UH, WE DO HAVE OUR PARTNERS HERE FROM FIREFLY AND, UM, OUR LEADER IN THIS EFFORT FOR OUR COUNTY, MR. PAUL DRUMRIGHT.
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OF THE BOARD, UH, PAUL DRUMRIGHT, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS MANAGER.AND, UH, JUST WANNA, UH, REMIND YOU, SO WE, WE HAVE DO HAVE MULTIPLE BROADBAND PROJECTS GOING ON IN THE COUNTY THIS AFTERNOON.
AS THE CHAIRMAN HAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE ASKED OUR, UH, WONDERFUL PARTNERS AT FIREFI FIBER BROADBAND TO COME BACK AND GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON THEIR CURRENT STATUS OF WHERE THEY ARE IN REGARDING THEIR MULTIPLE COMPONENTS OF THEIR REGIONAL INTERNET SERVICE EXPANSION PROJECT.
AND SO THEY ARE HERE BEHIND ME.
UH, GARY WOOD, UH, IS WITH US, AND GIMME ONE SECOND.
I'M GONNA PULL UP PHONE THEIR PRESENTATION.
ANYBODY GOT SOME BALLS? I CAN JUGGLE
SO, UH, I'LL ASK GARY, UH, TO COME ON UP HERE AND GIVE US SOME GOOD NEWS, UH, ON WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING.
I'VE BEEN TRAINED ON THE CLICKER, SO I FEEL FULLY READY.
UH, WELL, I LIKE THANK THE BOARD AND, UH, I'VE MET MR. CARPENTER ONLINE, BUT IN PERSON NOW, UH, FOR GIVING US OPPORTUNITY TO, TO UPDATE YOU ON WHERE WE STAND.
AND, UM, FIREFLY IS BUSY AND CONTINUES TO BE BUSY, UH, IN, IN GLAND, UH, IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO LET'S REAL QUICKLY TAKE A LOOK AT THE SLIDES.
JUST A REMINDER THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PARTNERS IN OUR ENDEAVOR HERE.
WE'LL BE WORKING WITH DOMINION AND RAPPAHANNOCK, UH, ALONG WITH THE SUPPORT THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THE COUNTY, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET BROADBAND TO EVERY UNSERVED LOCATION IN THE COUNTY.
WE'VE UPDATED OUR MAPS ONLINE.
UH, THIS IS A, A RECENT EFFORT AND GIN WAS ONE OF THE FIRST MAPS TO GET UPDATED, IF NOT D FIRST.
UM, SO WE HAVE A, A LITTLE BETTER DEFINITION BASED ON, UM, THE PARTS OF THE PROJECT THAT'LL BE BUILT AT SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TIMES.
UH, FIRST THE BLUE HERE SHOWS THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA AREA, WHICH IS, HAS ALL THE FIBER IN IT, ALL THE SPLICING DONE, THE LOWER PART, UM, ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THE COUNTY.
UH, WE ALREADY HAVE PEOPLE CONNECTED WHO WANT IT TO BE CONNECTED IN THE NORTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
WE STARTED, UM, FINAL SERVICE CONNECTIONS LAST WEEK.
UM, WE, UH, WILL BE WORKING ON THOSE UNTIL WE GET EVERYBODY CONNECTED WHO WANTS SERVICE.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBERS RIGHT OFF OF, UH, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF, UM, CONNECTIONS WE'LL HAVE OUT OF OUR CHAN HILL SUBSTATION.
UH, BUT WE'VE GOT SEVERAL DROP CREWS WORKING IN THE AREA, AND THEY'LL BE PUTTING DROPS IN EVERY WEEK UNTIL WE GET 'EM ALL CONNECTED.
UH, THE, UH, PINKISH AREA IS, UH, OUR RECONNECT PROJECT FROM U S D A AND I'LL, I'LL UPDATE YOU A LITTLE MORE ON THESE INDIVIDUALLY ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.
AND THE GREEN AREA IS WHERE WE'RE PARTNERING WITH, UH, RAP PANIC ELECTRIC THAT'S IN THEIR TERRITORY WILL BE ON THEIR POLES WHERE THEIR AERIAL POLES AND UNDERGROUND NEXT TO THEIR UNDERGROUND.
AND THEN THE YELLOWISH AREAS ARE THE REST OF THE BODY PROJECT.
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CONNECTED THROUGH THE, UH, DOMINION MIDDLE MILE PROJECT.AND THEN WITH FIREFLY BUILDING LATERALS OFF OF THAT.
BUT THEY'LL HAVE THEIR MAIN LINES, WE'LL, THEY'LL BE BUILDING FIBER AND, AND LEASING TO US.
SO WITH THAT MAP IN MIND, WE'VE ALSO BUILT, UH, AN UPDATE WITH A, UH, CHEVRON TYPE OF, UH, UPDATE THAT CAME FROM A SUGGESTION FROM YOUR OWN ADMINISTRATION.
SO WE, UH, WE'VE, UH, PLACED THIS TYPE OF UPDATE ON EACH PART OF THE, UH, COUNTY IN TERMS OF THE PROJECTS WITH CBC.
WE HAD THE TWO PROJECTS, THE CARTERSVILLE SUBSTATION AREA, AND THE SHE HILL SUBSTATION AREA.
AND YOU'LL SEE BOTH OF THOSE HAVE ALL OF THE, UH, CHEVRON'S COLORED AND SO THAT WE ARE ACTUALLY PUTTING PEOPLE IN SERVICE.
UM, THE, UH, THERE'S SOME NOTES AT THE BOTTOM ABOUT HOW MANY MILES, UH, WE PASSED AND OR HOW MANY MILES WE'VE PUT UP AND HOW MANY TOTAL PASSINGS AND, AND THINGS.
UM, THEN RAPPAHANNOCK WITH MOUNT HOPE, WHICH WE SHOWED IN GREEN, UH, WE HAVE THE MAKE READY ENGINEERING IS, IS JUST ABOUT COMPLETE.
WE SHOWED MAKE READY CONSTRUCTION.
UH, THEY STILL HAVE A LITTLE MORE MAKE READY ENGINEERING TO DO, TO FINISH THAT UP.
BUT, UH, THAT'S THE PHASE WE ARE IN.
WE'LL BE WAITING ON, UH, RAPPAHANNOCK TO, UM, MANAGE AND, AND, UH, GET THE CONSTRUCTION NECESSARY TO MAKE ROOM ON THE POLES FOR FIBER.
SO, MAKE READY CONSTRUCTION CONSISTS OF, UH, SOMETIMES JUST CHANGING THINGS ON TOP OF THE POLE.
SOMETIMES POLES WILL HAVE TWO WIRES, JUST SINGLE PHASE, AND THEY'LL BE UP AND DOWN THE POLE AND THEY CAN PUT 'EM BOTH UP ON A CROSS ARM.
AND THAT LEAVES US ROOM TO PUT A FIBER UNDERNEATH.
SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO CHANGE OUT THE POLE TO GIVE MORE CLEARANCE.
SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO MOVE A TRANSFORMER TO ONE SIDE OF THE POLE VERSUS THE OTHER.
SO THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT EVERY POLE IN THE FIELD, GO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
THEN WHEN THE FIBER CREWS GET IN, THEY CAN PUT THE FIBER OUT.
WE'RE IN THE MAKE READY CONSTRUCTION PHASE ON MOUNT HOPE.
UM, WE STILL HOPE TO HAVE, UH, CONNECTIONS STARTED BY, UH, IN WINTER, THE FINAL CONNECTIONS.
THAT'S NOT TO SAY THEY'LL BE COMPLETED, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO GET STARTED MAKING FINAL CONNECTIONS IN WINTER.
UM, THE MOUNT HOPE SUBSTATION PRETTY LARGE.
IT HAS ABOUT, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, I WANNA SAY ABOUT 300 MILES OF FIBER TO BUILD.
UM, OUR CREWS WORK AT ABOUT 25 MILES A WEEK ACROSS THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.
SO IN ONE AREA, WE MAY BE DOING 15 TO 20 MILES A WEEK.
SO YOU CAN DO THE MATH IN YOUR, YOUR HEAD.
IF WE'VE GOT 300 MILES TO GO, IT'S GONNA TAKE A, A FEW WEEKS TO PUT THAT UP.
THEN WE GET THE SPLICING, UH, DONE BEHIND THAT, AND THEN WE MAKE THE FINAL CONNECTIONS.
UH, SO MOUNT HOPE IS UNDERWAY.
UM, THEN, UH, RECONNECT PROJECT IN GOLAND.
THAT IS, UH, PROJECT THAT WAS FUNDED BY U S D A GRANT TO FIREFLY.
IT SERVES, UM, A, A SMALLER PORTION, I CAN'T REMEMBER, MAYBE 600 OR 800, UH, PASSINGS IN GIN.
UH, IT DOES RUN A FIBER ALONG THE MAIN ROADS OF 5 22 AND SIX, AND A FEW OTHER AREAS.
WE FIRST APPLIED FOR THE RECONNECT GRANT IN MAY OF 2020.
AND, UM, THEY TOLD US THAT FALL, THAT, UH, WE WERE CLOSE, BUT DIDN'T QUITE SCORE WELL ENOUGH WHEN THEY ANNOUNCED THEIR, UH, FIRST GRANTS IN SEPTEMBER.
BUT WE WERE ENCOURAGED TO REAPPLY THE FOLLOWING YEAR IN JANUARY AFTER THE FCC R DO AUCTION.
AND I'M GETTING IN THE WEEDS HERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT IN JANUARY WE REAPPLIED.
UM, LAST YEAR IN AUGUST, THEY TOLD US THAT WE WON THE AWARD.
WE SIGNED THE CONTRACT TO START THAT LAST MONTH.
IT TAKES THE GOVERNMENT A LITTLE WHILE.
SO THE PROJECT THAT WE FIRST SAID WE WOULD DO IN MARCH OF 2020, WE, WE ACTUALLY STARTED PREPARATION MAY.
WE RECEIVED AUTHORIZATION TO START WORK LAST MONTH.
UM, WE HAVE STARTED THE FIELD DATA COLLECTION.
WE GOT APPROVAL TO START THAT A LITTLE EARLY.
UH, FOR UNDERGROUND PROJECTS, WE HAVE TO GO AROUND AND IDENTIFY EVERY, UH, STREAM CROSSING, ROAD CROSSING PLACES TO PUT UNDERGROUND VAULTS, PEDESTALS.
SO THEY HAVE TO GO EVERY MILE AND COLLECT THAT DATA FIRST BEFORE WE DO THE DESIGN.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW.
THEN WE'LL DO DESIGN, THEN WE GET UNDERWAY.
UM, UNDERGROUND PROJECTS START FASTER BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT MAKE READY CONSTRUCTION, BUT THEY TAKE LONGER BECAUSE BUILD AN UNDERGROUND TAKES LONGER AND STRINGING STUFF ON POLES.
SO WE ARE, UM, HOPING ALSO TO GET SOME PEOPLE CONNECTED BY WINNER OF 2023.
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YOU THAT THAT'S A REALLY AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE FOR THAT UNDERGROUND WORK.AND BECAUSE IT'S TAKEN SO LONG, OUR US HASN'T MET A SINGLE DEADLINE.
UM, AND, UH, IT TOOK US A WHILE TO GET STARTED ON THIS.
BUT, UM, WE'LL HAVE CREWS IN SOON.
ONCE WE GET THE DATA COLLECTION FINISHED, GET IT DESIGNED, WE'LL GET CREWS WORKING TO, TO PUT THINGS UNDERGROUND.
IF THE WEATHER BREAKS RIGHT BY END OF WINTER, WE'LL START CONNECTIONS.
IF NOT, IT'LL PROBABLY BE SPRING, UM, THAT WE'LL HAVE FINAL CONNECTIONS UNDERWAY IN THO THOSE AREAS.
UH, THEN THE LAST PIECE IS THE YELLOWISH AREA, WHICH IS, UH, THE DOMINION MIDDLE MILE.
UH, DOMINION IS DOING THE FIRST WORK ON THAT.
THEY HAVE TO, UM, MANAGE THEIR PIECE OF IT WHERE THEY DO, UH, DATA COLLECTION IN THE FIELD AND, AND, UH, DESIGN WORK.
THEY HAVE TO APPLY TO GET, UM, THE AREAS APPROVED BY THE STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION UNDER THE LAW THAT ALLOWS THEM TO BUILD MIDDLE MILE.
UM, THEY'LL BE DOING THAT NEXT YEAR AND THEY'LL PROBABLY BE BACK IN TOUCH WITH THE COUNTY AT SOME POINT, ASKING ABOUT A, A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THAT FILING.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THEY'RE ABLE TO DO SOME OF, UM, SOME OF THE WORK, UH, AGAIN, SOME OF THE, UM, SOFT COST WORK OF, OF FIELD DATA COLLECTION, THOSE THINGS.
AND THAT IS, UM, WELL, THEY'VE ASKED US NOT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT, WHERE THEY ARE.
SO I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE, THE CVC OR FIREFLY FOLKS ARE PLANNING ON DOING OUR PIECE OF THE DATA COLLECTION STARTING EARLY NEXT YEAR.
UH, CUZ WE TAKE, UM, THE FEED FROM DOMINION AND THEN WE'LL TAKE OFF FROM THERE AND EITHER RUN UNDERGROUND OR ON DOMINION POLES, DOWN SIDE ROADS AND, UM, AND DOING THE FINAL CONNECTIONS TO HOMES.
SO FIREFLIES, THE FINAL CONNECTION FOR ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT, UH, BUILDS, WHETHER IT'S ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S POLES OR UNDERGROUND OR WHERE IT COMES FROM, UM, IN COORDINATION WITH THE, UH, PARTNERS, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY GET THEIR WORK DONE, AND THEN WE TAKE THE HAND OFF AND BUILD OUT FROM THERE.
UM, SO THE, THE GUCCI AREA, THE MIDDLE MILE, UM, WE WILL PLAN TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THE FIELD NEXT YEAR AND, AND WE'LL SEND OUT OUR NOTIFICATIONS AS WE DO WITH EACH ONE OF THESE.
UH, WE MAKE SURE THAT EITHER THE PARTNERS SENDING NOTIFICATIONS IF THEY'RE DOING WORK, OR WE'RE SENDING NOTIFICATIONS IF OUR CONTRACTORS ARE IN THE FIELD.
WE LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT IN TERMS OF WHAT TYPES OF TRUCKS, UH, WHAT COLORED TRUCKS.
EVERYBODY WHO'S, UH, WORKING ON OUR PROJECT SHOULD HAVE IDENTIFICATION.
AND THEY, IF ANYBODY EVER HAS A QUESTION OF WHY SOMEONE'S IN THEIR BACKYARD AT A POLL, THEY CAN CALL US AND WE CAN TELL 'EM IF IT'S OUR FOLKS OR NOT.
UH, BUT THEY SHOULD BE WELL IDENTIFIED AND, AND PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW BEFORE THEY'RE COMING.
SO WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING, IF YOU NOTICE I'M GO BACKWARDS, UH, MEANT TO, UH, SO WE HAVE THE CVC PIECES ARE, ARE, UH, COMPLETED OTHER THAN MAKING FINAL CONNECTIONS IN, IN SHANNON HILL.
UH, MOUNT HOPE IS, UH, IN THE MAKE READY, UM, CONSTRUCTION PHASE SOON FINISHED UP MAKING READY ENGINEERING, BUT THAT'S UNDERWAY AND PROGRESSING.
UH, THE RECONNECT WE'RE, WE ARE DOING FIELD DATA COLLECTION SOON WE'LL BE DOING ENGINEERING AND HAVE THINGS UNDERWAY.
UM, AND THEN THE, UH, MIDDLE MILE AREA, UM, SOME WORK IS ONGOING AND, AND WE'LL HAVE, UH, OUR FOLKS IN THE AREA SOON, UM, STARTING THE FIREFLY PORTION OF THAT WORK.
SO ALL OF THE PROJECTS HAVE SOME WORK GOING ON.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT OUT OF ALL OF THE COUNTIES WE'RE IN, UM, THERE AREN'T MANY, UH, WHERE I CAN SAY THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY WORKING ON ALL THE DIFFERENT PIECES BECAUSE SEVERAL OF THESE WERE WORKING IN PARALLEL IN SOME AREAS WE MAY BE WORKING ON, UM, ONE OF THE PIECES FUNDED BY BODY, BUT WE'RE NOT WORKING IN THE DOMINION AREAS, OR WE'RE WORKING IN APPALACHIAN POWER AREAS IN SOME COUNTIES, BUT NOT IN, UH, RAP PANIC AREAS.
UH, BECAUSE THERE'S A A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING AT ONCE.
AND WE HAPPEN TO BE WORKING ON ALL THE PROJECTS THAT AT THE, UH, START OF SEVERAL OF THEM, IT TAKES A WHILE TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE.
BUT WE HAVE UNDERWAY THIS JUST A REMINDER OF THE, UH, THE BODY BUDGET, UH, IN GIN, THE TOTAL RISE PROJECT, WHICH INCLUDES RECONNECT AND SOME CONNECT AMERICA FUND AREAS.
TOTAL NUMBER OF PASSINGS WE'LL HAVE IN A NUMBER OF MILES.
UH, GIN HAS ONE OF THE LARGEST FOOTPRINTS IN OUR PROJECT, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE EARLY IN ALL THE AREAS.
UM, AND WE'LL BE WORKING TILL WE GET EVERYBODY ON.
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TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE.WE ARE, UM, WE'RE BUILDING A NEW UTILITY, JUST LIKE BUILDING AN ELECTRIC UTILITY ONLY.
IT'S MADE OUT OF FIBER AND IT'S DELIVERING BITS AND BITES INSTEAD OF TURN THE LIGHTS ON.
UH, SO IT, IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO BUILD.
UM, WE DID JUST SIGN THE VID CONTRACT TWO WEEKS AGO THAT WAS ANNOUNCED LAST DECEMBER.
THE STATE MOVES A LITTLE QUICKER THAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
BUT, BUT, UH, I WILL TELL YOU THERE'S BEEN, UM, UM, A LITTLE FRUSTRATION WITH NOT MOVING THINGS A LITTLE QUICKER IN, IN SOME OF THE CONTRACT WORK.
UH, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE STATES HAD THIS MUCH MONEY IN THEIR CONTRACTS.
SO THE CONTRACTS LOOK DIFFERENTLY THAN BEFORE.
UH, WHAT USED TO BE A TWO OR THREE PAGE CONTRACT'S, A 20 SOME PAGE CONTRACT.
THEY'RE MORE LAWYERS WHO ARE INVOLVED.
AND, UH, WE'VE GOTTEN THROUGH IT NOW.
SO NOW WE'RE READY TO GET TO WORK.
I'LL QUIT COMPLAINING ABOUT ALL THAT AND JUST TELL YOU NOW, THE GOOD NEWS IS WE'RE WORKING.
SO, UH, AND THEN I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU MR. WOOD, FOR JUST SLAP THAT I OH, YEAH.
UH, THEY'RE GOING BY AND PUTTING, UM, FLYERS ON THE DOORS AND COUNTING POLES OR WHATEVER THEY DO.
UH, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, UM, THE HAYDENVILLE AREA, IS THAT COMING OFF THE SHANNON HILL SUBSTATION? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CVEC CUSTOMERS THAT ARE IN HAITI.
THE ONES THAT ARE ON CVEC WILL BE COMING OFF THE SHIN HILL SUBSTATION.
MOST, MOST OF THE, UH, GIN RESIDENTS THAT ARE IN CVC AREA, JUST ABOUT ALL, BUT MAYBE TWO ARE OFF OF ANOTHER SUBSTATION.
THE REST OF 'EM THAT AREN'T IN THAT SOUTHERN PIECE, THE REST OF 'EM ARE ALL SERVED OFF SHANNON HILL SUBSTATION.
AND SO, UM, ACCORDING TO YOUR PLAN, YOU'RE TRYING TO DO YOUR CUSTOMERS RIGHT FIRST.
SO WE, WELL, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT FIBER UP, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET 'EM CONNECTED NOW AS FAST AS WE CAN.
WE GOT ALL THAT FIBERS IN PLACE AND SPLICED AND READY TO CONNECT CUSTOMERS.
HOW AWESOME IS THAT? SO, UM, MAYBE OFFLINE, I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A PARTICULAR CASE.
UH, AT THE, THE HAYDENVILLE POST OFFICE.
IT'S BEEN BEEN A PROBLEM THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
SO, AND, UM, I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S THE CONNECTIVITY.
SO THEY'VE BEEN OFFLINE, HAVEN'T HAD A COMPUTER IN SIX MONTHS.
AND THERE IS CVC, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.
LET ME, ALRIGHT, LET, LET, LET'S TALK OFFLINE AND, OKAY.
JUST MA'AM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.
ALL RIGHT, MR. MR. PETERSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING IN TODAY AND, UH, ENLIGHTENING US AND SHARING YOUR INFORMATION.
UM, AS I WAS FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION, IT'S WHAT WE ASKED, WHICH IS, HOW'S THE BUILD OUT GOING? MM-HMM.
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED UP ON THAT? SO WE, UM, HAVE NOT FULLY, UH, MARKETED TO THE AREAS, UM, IN RAPPAHANNOCK OR RECONNECT OR DOMINION YET.
WE STILL HAVE PEOPLE SIGNING UP, BUT WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY CONTACTED PEOPLE IN SID.
NOW IS THE TIME GO SIGN UP IN THE AREAS WHERE WE'VE DONE THAT.
UM, WITH CARTERSVILLE AND SHANNON HILL, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS OFF HAND, BUT, UH, I'M, I'M SURE IT WAS BETWEEN 50 AND 60%, WHICH IS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING ACROSS MOST OF OUR SERVICE AREA RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE HAVE A FEW POCKETS WHERE WE'VE BEEN UP OVER 70% IN INITIAL TAKE RATE.
AND, UH, WE HAVE A FEW AREAS WHERE WE DO OVERLAP EXISTING CABLE SYSTEMS WHERE WE'LL END UP BETWEEN 40 AND 50 IS SLIGHTLY LOWER, BUT PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE ELSE IS STARTING BETWEEN 50 AND 60.
AND I, I THINK, UH, THE SHANNON HILL AND CARTERSVILLE AREAS ARE SIMILAR.
AND THAT, AND THAT'S GENERALLY IN LINE WHERE YOUR INITIAL PROJECTIONS OR, UH, IT RUNS.
SO WHEN WE GO WAY BACK TO 2017 AND START THIS PROJECT, WE ASSUMED WE WOULD GET 35% WITHIN THE FIRST TWO YEARS.
SO IT'S RUNNING BETTER THAN 35%.
I'M NOT VERY GOOD WITH MATH, BUT SIXTIES HIGHER AND 70 OR 30 THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, CAUSE I MEAN, OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT BOARD'S UNDERSTANDING FOR YEARS WAS, YOU KNOW, PLEASE, PLEASE BRING THIS OUT HERE.
THERE'S A WATER IN THE DESERT OUT THERE.
SO, UM, THIS WAS, THIS WOULD CONFIRM IT.
IF YOU RUN BY AND THERE'S A HIGH TAKEUP RATE THAT THAT TELLS US THE CITIZENS ARE VERY HAPPY AND VERY PLEASED.
AND, UH, THE, SO WE SEE INITIALLY 50 TO 60%, AND THEN OVER THE NEXT YEAR WE'LL SEE ANOTHER, UM, UH, OUT OF THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE OF FOLKS ANOTHER, ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO 10%
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SIGN UP WHO ARE ON CONTRACTS WITH SATELLITE PROVIDERS OR CELL PHONE OR OTHER THINGS.AND AS THAT ROLLS OFF, THEY'LL TAKE UP THE SERVICE.
UM, I THINK THAT THIS WILL BECOME LIKE ELECTRICITY AND PEOPLE NEED IT.
THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WE'RE OUT HERE.
UM, SO I EXPECT REALLY HIGH TAKE RATE OVER, YOU KNOW, A DECADE
MR. PETERSON TOOK MY QUESTION.
THAT'S WHAT I ALWAYS ASK THAT QUESTION.
I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT IT'S GOING BETTER THAN PREDICTED.
BUT YOU, EVERYTHING ELSE YOU COVERED IN THE PRESENTATION, RIGHT? SO THAT CARTERSVILLE BLUE AREA THAT'S IN YOUR FIR VERY FIRST MAP, THAT'S WHERE CVEC EXISTS.
SO IF YES, IF I HAVE A PLACE JUST NORTH OF THERE AND I'M IN DOMINION AREA, THEN I'M IN THE RECONNECT AREA, RIGHT? BUT YOU'RE GETTING THERE.
UM, WE ARE, WE'RE GONNA GET TO ALL OF THOSE LOCATIONS THAT ARE IN THE COLORED AREAS, UM, WHICH WE THINK WILL COVER EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T HAVE POTENTIALLY CABLE SERVICE.
UM, WHEN WE DESIGNED THIS LAST YEAR, WE LOOKED EVERYWHERE THAT DID NOT HAVE, UH, WHAT MET THE STANDARD AT THAT POINT.
AND IN GIN IT WAS PRETTY MUCH WHERE THERE WAS CABLE SERVICE.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT WE KNOW THERE ARE A FEW FOLKS WITHIN THE CABLE FOOTPRINT WHO HAVE HAD LONG EXTENSIONS AND BEEN GIVEN REALLY HIGH QUOTES, AND SO THAT THEY REALLY DON'T HAVE SERVICE.
UH, THE STATE HAS A PROGRAM THIS YEAR WITH THE, UM, A LONG EXTENSION PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE FIRST STARTING.
UH, WE'RE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW THAT WORKS.
A BE GLAD TO KEEP COLIN, UM, UP TO DATE ON IT, BUT I'M SURE YOUR ADMINISTRATION AS WELL IS, IS WATCHING HOW THAT GOES.
I'M CONCERNED IT'S NOT REALLY WELL FUNDED.
IT'S ABOUT $8 MILLION FOR THE ENTIRE STATE.
AND, UM, THAT DOESN'T GO VERY FAR WHEN YOU'RE PAYING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS EXTENSIONS IN SOME CASES.
UM, BUT I THINK, UH, IF THAT DOESN'T WORK OUT, FIREFLIES COMMITTED THAT WE'LL, YOU KNOW, LET'S LOOK AT THOSE DOWN THE ROAD.
IF, IF THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO, UM, IT MAKES MORE SENSE WHEN YOU'RE RIGHT NEXT TO PROVIDERS LIKE THAT FOR THERE BE SOME ARRANGEMENT AND, AND HAVE THEM MAKE THAT SERVICE AVAILABLE.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE AND PLAN TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S GETS AN OPTION TO BE CONNECTED IF THEY WANT.
JUST ONE FOLLOWING QUESTION REAL QUICK.
UM, ARE YOU BEARING DARK FIBER OR PLANNING ON EXPAND? I KNOW YOU'RE RUNNING FIBER AT EVERY EXISTING HOME TODAY, BUT ARE YOU BUILDING IN THE ABILITY FOR PASS THE EXPANSION OVER TIME? UM, THE, THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.
SO WE WE'RE NOT RUNNING DOWN AREAS WHERE WE DON'T SERVE.
WE'RE NOT RUNNING FIBER INTO THOSE AREAS, BUT OUR CORE SYSTEM, OUR BACKBONE, WILL BE CAPABLE OF HANDLING, UM, THE, THE REGION WHEREVER, UH, FIBERS NEEDED.
WE'RE PARTNERING, FOR INSTANCE, WITH, UM, UH, MID-ATLANTIC BROADBAND.
WE HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED THIS YET.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO ANNOUNCE THAT IT'S TWO PRIVATE COMPANIES, UH, BUT WHERE WE BUILD ALONG 5 22, THEY NEED TO BRING FIBER UP THERE.
THAT'S A BACKBONE RESOURCE, UH, BECAUSE THEY DO BACK HAULS, WHETHER FOR US OR FOR COMCAST OR FOR VERIZON, ANYBODY CAN LEASE THEIR FIBER AND, AND HAUL BACK TO THE INTERNET.
UM, WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THEM ON PART OF THE BUILD BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE IN AN AREA THAT DOESN'T HAVE FIBER, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE BUILD ENOUGH CAPACITY IN TO SERVE.
UM, MR. WOOD HAD A QUESTION, OBVIOUSLY NOW, UM, OVER THE SUMMER, BUT YOU KNOW, WITH SCHOOL, UH, PICKING UP, PEOPLE ARE LIKE, OH GOSH, I REALLY STILL DO NEED THIS INTERNET.
ARE WE CLOSE? ARE WE THERE? I I HAVEN'T BEEN TO THE WEBSITE, SO WE MAY HAVE THAT.
WHERE ARE WE? SO THE AREAS THAT WE HAVE ANNOUNCED, UH, WHERE WE ARE COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING WITHIN THE 12 TO 18 MONTH PERIOD.
SO THE, UM, IN THIS CASE, UH, THE, THE TWO CVC AREAS, THE, UH, MOUNT HOPE AREA, I THINK WE HAVE THE DATE WE SHOWED OF, UM, UH, OF WINTER.
WE'VE ACTUALLY OPENED IT FOR THAT.
UH, WE SHOULD SOON, BECAUSE NOW WE'VE GOT THE CONTRACT DONE, WE CAN FEEL A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE.
WE TRY NOT TO GO BEYOND THAT AND PUT DATES IN BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MUCH UNCERTAINTY.
AND IF WE PROJECT A DATE AND SOMEONE MAKES DECISIONS OFF OF THAT AND BUYING A HOUSE, SELLING THE HOUSE, CHOOSING TO STOP ANOTHER CONTRACT, UH, IT'S, THERE'S JUST TOO MANY UNKNOWNS WHEN YOU GO TOO FAR DOWN THE LINE.
SO, UH, WE'LL GIVE PROJECTED DATES AND EVEN 12 TO 18 MONTHS CAN BE HARD TO HIT.
BUT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
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PART OF THE PROJECT AND WE'RE GONNA GET EVERYBODY ON BY 2025, BUT WE DON'T GIVE A DATE.IF IT'S GONNA BE LATE 2023, EARLY 2024, WE KIND OF, YOU'RE JUST IN THE OTHER AREA THAT WILL BE CONNECTED.
SO, SO WE DON'T GIVE A A DATE FOR EVERYBODY WHO PUTS AN ADDRESS IN.
WE DO TELL YOU WHETHER YOU'RE PART OF THE PROJECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO EXPERIENCES AS WELL.
BUT OUR RURAL, THE WESTERN PART OF OUR COUNTY IS GROWING, UM, MUCH FASTER THAN IT EVER HAS.
SO WE DO HAVE PEOPLE MOVING IN.
DO I GO WITH THE VERIZON OR IS IT WITHIN A YEAR? IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, RIGHT? EVEN JUST TO SAY, IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, THEN YOU COULD EXPECT IT TO BE A MINIMUM OF THIS.
BECAUSE I DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ASKING, WELL, SHOULD I GO PUT A SATELLITE UP OR IS IT GONNA BE MORE THAN TWO YEARS? RIGHT.
SO THAT MIGHT BE BE BENEFICIAL.
UM, THE LAST THING IS MORE OF A COMMENT I UNDER, I KNOW THAT, UM, MR. DERITE WORKS WITH YOU SO MUCH.
I HEARD RUMOR THAT YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT GIVING HIM AN OFFICE AT YOUR PLACE.
UH, BUT, UM, WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY, I, I'M SURE YOU HEARD IN 2020 WHEN PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD SAID, THIS IS OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
UM, WE ARE, WE LOVE THE PROGRESS AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO OUR CITIZENS TO CONTINUE TO UPDATE ON THAT PROGRESS.
SO I'VE ASKED MR. DRUMRIGHT EVERY MONTH NOW, AFTER THIS MEETING, HE WILL HAVE A STANDING REPORT AS TO WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, SO OBVIOUSLY SOME MONTHS THERE WON'T BE ANY NEW UPDATES, BUT HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE LOTS.
SO THAT'S, UH, JUST WANNA KIND OF LET YOU KNOW THAT WHEN, YOU KNOW, PAUL'S CALLS MAY TICK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT I, I UNDERSTAND.
AND BY THE WAY, UH, GALEN CREEKMORE WHO'S HERE WITH ME, IS IN CONTACT WITH, UH, MR. DRUMRIGHT.
SOMETIMES IT'S HOURLY, BUT, UM, BUT, UH, WE, WE DO KEEP IN CONTACT PRETTY WELL WITH HIM.
UH, WE HAVE COMMITTED AS PART OF THE VDI PROJECT TO HAVE MONTHLY UPDATES THAT WE'RE GIVEN ON EVERY COUNTY TO THE VDI STAFF.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE TO THE, UH, COUNTY.
WE HAVE QUARTERLY UPDATES AND WE HAVE THE FIRST ONE, UM, THURSDAY, LATER THURSDAY, THURSDAY THAT WILL BE, UH, LIVE UPDATES WHERE WE'LL DO, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE GONNA DO A WEBINAR FASHION ZOOM WEBINAR FASHION, UM, WHERE WE BRING ALL 13 COUNTIES TOGETHER.
THAT'LL BE AN INTERESTING PROCESS TO SEE HOW WE GET THROUGH THAT.
I, I SUGGESTED TO THE BODY STAFF THAT THERE MAY BE OTHER WAYS THEY SAID, OH, WE WANT EVERYBODY TOGETHER FOR, OKAY.
13 COUNTIES IN ONE ROOM FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF.
I'M NOT SURE HOW WE'RE GONNA GET THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWERED DONE, BUT IT'LL BE MAGICAL
UH, BUT WE WILL HAVE THE WRITTEN, UH, UPDATES THAT WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE OUT AND WE'LL BE HERE MORE OFTEN IN PERSON WHEN WE'RE BUILDING.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE BUILDING, SO YOU CAN EXPECT US TO BE AROUND A LITTLE MORE OFTEN.
READY TO SAY WE'LL BE HERE EVERY MONTH, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S THE DRUM RIGHT.
CAN TELL YOU DRUM HAVE A PLETHORA OF INFORMATION TO THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT.
AND I, WE'LL GET YOU A LITTLE MORE IN TERMS OF SOME SOLID STATISTICS ON THE, THE TAKE RATES AND AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. WOOD? THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR THE PARTNERSHIP.
OKAY, LAST PIECE OF NEW BUSINESS.
UH, AGAIN, A VERY EXCITING PIECE.
UH, WE DO HAVE A, AN APPOINTMENT TO ONE OF OUR BOARDS, ACTUALLY THE GIN
[2. 5473: Appointment -September 2022]
COUNTY SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD.THESE APPOINTMENTS ARE CRITICAL, UH, FOR OUR COUNTY TO MOVE FORWARD.
WE HAVE SO MANY GREAT PEOPLE THAT VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME AND THEIR TALENTS.
UM, AND WE DO HAVE AN APPLICANT.
UM, WE ARE BOARD IS, UH, TO CONSIDER THE APPOINTMENT OF CAROLYN ROBINSON FOR A FOUR YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2022 TO AUGUST 31ST, 2026.
AND THAT'S AGAIN TO THE GLAND COUNTY SERVICES SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MS. LAST, UH, I MOVE THAT WE DO APPOINT MS. CAROLINE ROBINSON TO A FOUR YEAR TERM TO THE GIN COUNTY SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
MS. ROBINSON, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE HERE, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IF YOU'RE WATCHING.
BOARD, UM, FOLKS, NOW WE, WE ARE GONNA GO INTO CLOSE SECTION.
I NOTICED THERE'S NO PLACE FOR BOARD REPORTS, SO, BUT IF I MAY JUST GO LIKE, JUST, JUST A MOMENT.
I FIGURED WE'D MOVING ALONG, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT THIS, EARLIER THIS WEEK, THE R TPO ENDORSED OUR, UH, ENDORSED A RE OR PASTOR RESOLUTION ENDORSING THE I 64 ASHLAND ROAD INTERCHANGE PROJECT, UH, SMART SCALE APPLICATION.
AND ON THE MICRO TRANSIT WE HAD G RTC PRESENT TO US.
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LIKE THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT MICRO TRANSITS AND, AND SUSAN CORRECT ME IF I'M NOT SAYING THIS EXACTLY HOW YOU HEARD IT, BUT IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE EACH JURISDICTION IN THE REGION LIKE AN, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK FOR AN AREA IN THE JURISDICTION.IT'S NOT GONNA BE SCORED LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHERE CERTAIN COUNTY COULD GET ELIMINATED.
LIKE YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T MEET THE CRITERIA.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT MICRO TRANSITS, AT LEAST ONE PROJECT IN EACH, IN EACH JURISDICTION.
SO THOSE ARE TWO THINGS THAT IMPACT GUCCI.
THAT HAPPENED EARLIER THIS WEEK, AT THE END OF LAST WEEK, I GUESS AT THE TPO.
AND THANK YOU FOR CATCHING THAT.
ANY OTHER BOARD REPORT, ANYTHING ELSE THAT, UM, THE ONLY I WILL SAY IS FROM A CBTA PERSPECTIVE ON SORT OF ON THE SAME LINES WITH THE SAME PROJECT WE HAVE, WE WILL BE TAKING UP, UM, A VOTE DEPENDING ON, UH, REGARDING THE RELOCATION OF FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE DOUBLE DIVE DIVERGENT DIAMOND ON 60, ON, UM, AT 64 IN ASHLAND ROAD.
SO THAT IS, UH, THE CONTINUING EFFORTS OF THE BOARD TO ENSURE THAT, UH, WE ARE, UM, MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT FUTURE PROJECTS.
SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT VOTE, UM, HOPEFULLY IT GOES OUR WAY.
I APPRECIATE YOU CATCHING THAT.
UM, NOW, UH, WE WILL BE GOING INTO CLOSED, UH,
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SESSION TO DISCUSS ADMINISTRA, UH, THE PERFORMANCE OF OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.SO BOARD, I WOULD NEED A MOTION TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WHAT'S WITH THE MOTIONS TODAY? EVERYBODY'S ALL, WHEN DID YOU ALL GET SO SHY? I HAD TO FIND THE WORDING.
ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MA'AM.
UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH PROVISIONS OF VIRGINIA CODE 2.2 DASH 37 11 A ONE, I MOVE THAT THE GUCCI COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISORS CONVENE IN CLOSED MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING THE PERFORMANCE AND DUTIES OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
WE WILL COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION, UH, TO GO INTO OUR BREAK AND THEN BACK AT 6:00 PM THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
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OUT OF CLOSED SESSIONS.SO LEGALLY WE HAVE TO OFFICIALLY COME OUT OF CLOSED SESSION BEFORE WE GO BACK INTO THE, UH, OPEN SESSION, CLOSED, OPEN, AND OUT.
SO, MR. MR. CHAIRMAN, PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2.2 37 12 D, I MOVED THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS HEREBY CERTIFIED THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH OF OUR KNOWLEDGE, THAT ONE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
AND TWO, ONLY THE PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION CONVENING.
OUR CLOSED SESSION WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN OUR CLOSED MEETING.
ANY DISCUSSION? RULE CALL VOTE.
NOW I WILL REOPEN OUR, OUR CALLER MEETING.
UH, THIS IS THE 6:00 PM MEETING OF THE BOARD OF GIN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR SEPTEMBER 6TH.
IF YOU WERE HERE FOR A DIFFERENT COUNTY, YOU'RE IN THE WRONG PLACE.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOME, UH, SOME NEW FACES, UH, WITH US TODAY.
UH, WE WILL, UH, START OUR MEETING WITH CITIZEN COMMENT.
THIS IS FOR ANYTHING THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
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HAVE ONE PUBLIC HEARING, SO ANYTHING THAT PERTAINS TO GIN COUNTY THAT WE'RE, THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, PLEASE COME UP.
UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND, UM, KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES IF YOU CAN.
IF YOU PRESS THE LITTLE BUTTON ON THE BOTTOM OF THE MICROPHONE, IT'LL TURN GREEN.
GOOD AFTERNOON, BORDER SUPERVISORS.
I RESIDE AT 2 0 7 OH MAIDENS ROAD.
UM, I LIKE TO GIVE THREE MINUTES TO BEN SLOAN.
WE CAN'T DO THAT FOR, I'M SORRY.
NO, YEAH, THAT IS CERTAINLY A PROCEDURE UNDER OUR RULES FOR DURING A PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT IT, IT DOESN'T EXIST UNDER THE CURRENT RULES OF PROCEDURE FOR CITIZEN COMMENT TIME SPEAKING ON THE CASE.
SO IT, WE DON'T, WE DON'T ALLOW TO ADD TIME FOR EACH ONES.
SO IT'S THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
OR COMMENT, WE'RE ON CITIZEN, CITIZEN COUNT.
RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
WE DON'T ALLOW IT FOR CITIZEN COMMENT.
I RESIDED 2 0 5 2 MAIN ROAD MAINS, VIRGINIA 23,102.
AND, UH, LISA, MAY I, I'M MADAM SECRETARY.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT? PUBLIC COMMENT.
CITIZEN COMMENT, CITIZEN COMMENT, COMMENT.
NOT THE HEARING, NOT THE HEARING CASE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE FILE ONE FOR CITIZEN COMMENT.
YEAH, THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS JUST, SO, JUST TO BE CLEAR AGAIN, CITIZEN COMMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CASE THAT WE'RE HEARING TONIGHT IS IT'S JUST OTHER IS PERTAINING TO GIN COUNTY.
AND I APOLOGIZE, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S MR. FOR A DELAY AND HONOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD THAT LET ME, MADAM COUNCIL, AND MAN, I'M SECRETARY, I, WHICH 1:00 AM I? OPEN COMMENT.
OKAY, I'M, I'M GONNA SPEAK REAL QUICKLY, UH, WITHIN HOPEFULLY THREE MINUTES, TALK
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ABOUT IMMEDIATE, UH, CONCERN WITH REGARDS TO SAFETY.AND I KNOW FROM YOUR OTHER ACTIONS THAT YOU'VE TAKEN BEFORE, ESPECIALLY DEALING WITH THE BUSINESS AREA OUT IN THE DISTRICT, ONE AREA WHERE YOU VOTED DOWN A PARTICULAR BUSINESS COMING IN BECAUSE OF SAFETY.
UM, AND WE CAN GO BACK TO VIRGINIA CODE 15, 2 2200 TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION SYSTEMS AND JUST AS IMPORTANT, PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC HEALTH, ET CETERA.
I WANNA BRING IT TO ATTENTION.
THE FACT THAT THE CODE OF, EXCUSE ME, ME, THE ORDINANCES FOR THE COUNTY ACTUALLY HAVE TWO DIFFERENT REFERENCES TO A PARTICULAR ROAD IN IT.
AND YOU'LL SEE IN THIS SECTION OF ARTICLE 10, SECTION TWO FIGURE, I SHOULD SAY FIGURE SIX, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, UH, ACTUALLY SAYS THAT THIS IS THE CRITERIA FOR TWO, WHICH INCLUDES OVER 4,000 VEHICLES PER DAY.
THIS IS IN A LATER SECTION 15.3 45, WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES.
BUT YOU'LL NOTICE THAT, UM, THERE IS A SLIGHT CHANGE IN THAT, BUT STILL TALKING ABOUT IN TWO OVER 4,000 IN ACCESS CATEGORY THREE UNDER 4,000.
AND ALSO YOU'LL NOTE, NOTE THE RULE DESIGNATION FOR PARTICULAR N THREE.
WHAT THAT BECOMES IMPORTANT IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT ROUTE 6 32 IN BOTH THE FIGURE SIX AND THE THREE 40, UH, 15 DASH 3 45, YOU'LL FIND THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS FOR THE SAME ROAD, WHICH IS A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH THE ACCESS LEVELS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DO WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO GET DATA IS USE ALL AVAILABLE SOURCES.
SO THIS IS A PARTICULAR SOURCE, AND THIS PARTICULAR SOURCE COMES FROM THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
THEY PUT THIS DEVICE OUT ALONG THE ROADS AND COLLECTS DATA.
THE INTERESTING THING IS IT ACTUALLY COLLECTS DATA IN BOTH WAYS.
SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE UP HERE ON THIS AREA IS THE FACT THAT THERE'S A NUMBER OF SPEEDERS IN THIS 45 MILE PER HOUR SPEED ZONE IN 6 32 THAT ARE SPEEDING AT A VERY HIGH RATE OF LEVEL, WAY BEYOND THE SPEED LIMIT.
AND APPROXIMATELY 73% OF THE PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING.
SO I'M GONNA, BECAUSE OF TIME CONSIDERATIONS, I'M GONNA GO, EXCUSE ME, I'VE GONE A LITTLE TOO FAR.
WHOA, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY FAST.
AND, AND TALK ABOUT THE NUMBERS BECAUSE IT DOES ACQUIRE THE NUMBERS OF TRAFFIC BOTH WAYS.
AND YOU'LL SEE ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE FAR IN EXCEEDING OF 4,000.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE CLASSIFICATION THAT'S IN PART OF THE COUNTY ORDINANCE IS ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT.
AND I'LL SUGGEST IT NEEDS TO BE SAT CORRECTED BECAUSE THAT'S THE CRITERIA.
IT'S USED FOR A LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS.
AND THE SAME ROUTE, 6 32 HAS SEEN AN DRAMATIC INCREASE OF ACTIONS.
IT'S GONNA SIT ON AN ALL TIME RECORD.
YOU'LL NOTE THAT I START AT 2018, NOT AT 17, AND I'LL ADDRESS THAT IN A LATER DISCUSSION.
BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT THE PREDICTION, AT LEAST FOR THIS YEAR, IS GONNA BE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE EXCEEDING THAT ACCIDENT LIMIT ALREADY.
SO MR. CHAIRMAN ON IMMERSIVE BOARD, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO ADDRESS ISSUES? OKAY, SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
ALL RIGHT, WE ARE GONNA MOVE INTO OUR ONE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.
UH, DO SEE SOME NEW FACES IN HERE.
[XVI. Public Hearings]
ALWAYS LIKE WHEN I COME, GO SOMEWHERE TO KIND OF KNOW WHAT THE AGENDA IS.I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE RUNDOWN OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE.
UH, OUR STAFF IS GOING TO PRESENT THE CASE THAT, UM, IS BEFORE US THIS EVENING.
AND AFTER THE STAFF, UH, PRESENTS, THE BOARD MAY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OF STAFF, AND THEN WE ALLOW, WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AND, UH, THEY CAN SPEAK TO THE CASE AND WE WILL POTENTIALLY ASK THEM QUESTIONS AS WELL.
THEN WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THAT TIME.
THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
AND IF WE NEED TO, WE CAN, UM, EXPLAIN THE PROCESS FOR GIVING YOUR TIME TO, TO SOMEONE ELSE, UH, TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO MAKE THEIR POINT, UM, AFTER THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, SO THAT'S YOUR TIME TO LET US KNOW HOW YOU THINK YOU PLEASE ADDRESS THE BOARD.
UM, THEN, UH, AT THAT TIME WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AND POTENTIALLY ADDRESS ANY OF THE CONCERNS THEY HAD IF THEY DESIRE.
AND THEN I WILL ASK THE BOARD FOR A MOTION.
AND, UM, THEN WE START DISCUSSING NO MATTER WHAT THE MOTION IS MADE, IF IT'S TO DENY, TO, UH, ACCEPT OR TO DEFER, UM, THERE'S ALWAYS THIS, THERE CAN ALWAYS BE DISCUSSION AND, UM, WE, WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE.
UH, WE SHOULD HAVE A GREAT MEETING AND WE THINK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION.
AND NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. CASH.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN,
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MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.UM, FOR THE RECORD, I AM RAY CASH, THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THIS PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, UM, IS A REZONING, UH, RESONING FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE WITH CRAWFORD CONDITIONS.
[1. 5457: District 3 - RZ-2022-00003 Application by Truett Real Estate Investments,]
UH, IT'S, UH, LOCATED ON 49.37 ACRES.UH, THE PROPERTY IS, UH, GENERALLY CENTRAL TO THE COUNTY.
UM, ON THE, THE, THE EXTREMES OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, UH, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED A TWO AS WELL AS FOR A MAJORITY OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, DOES DESIGNATE THIS AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY.
IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE.
UH, THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE PLAN ITSELF WAS DEVELOPED IN 2015.
UM, THE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WERE GENERAL LIMITED BY THE UTILITIES CAPACITY.
UH, GENERALLY IT WAS SEWER AT THE TIME.
UH, CAPACITY OF SEWER HAS BEEN INCREASED SINCE THE ORIGINAL VILLAGE PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN GROWTH, GUIDANCE AND PRACTICE DOES CONSIDER POTENTIAL INCREASES IN DENSITY WITH THE PROVISION OF PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER.
UM, AND AS, UM, YOU ARE, ARE AWARE AND HOPEFULLY THE PUBLIC IS AWARE, UM, WE HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR CORDELL VILLAGE UNDER EVALUATION AT THIS TIME.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THE PROPERTY ITSELF IN THE AERIAL IS, UM, VACANT.
THE PROPERTY WAS, UH, TIMBERED IN PAST YEARS.
SO AGAIN, THE REQUEST IS RE ZONING FROM A TWO TO R ONE.
THE PROFFERED MAXIMUM, UM, FROM THE APPLICANT IS FOR 40 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT GENERALLY YIELDS TO DENSITY OF ABOUT 0.81 UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN BUILDING ELEVATION MATERIALS HAVE ALSO BEEN PROFFERED PUBLIC WATER AND SU BE, AND SEWER WOULD BE EXTENDED AND PROVIDED BEFORE THE LOTS.
UM, THERE'S ALSO PROPOSED A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG FAIRGROUND ROAD, WHICH IS, UM, TYPICAL POLICY THAT WE ASK FOR FOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS ALONG ROADS.
UM, THEY'RE ALSO OFFERING A HUNDRED FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER THAT WOULD GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY.
THE APPLICANT HAS PRO PREFERRED ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO FAIRGROUND ROAD, UM, AS WELL AS DEDICATION WITH RIGHT AND TURN LANES MEETING OUR STANDARDS.
THEY HAVE OFFERED CONSTRUCTION HOUR LIMITATIONS AS WELL AS, UH, THE STANDARD CASH PROFFER.
SO HERE'S THE, UM, THE PLAN, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT.
UH, THERE IS AN ACCESS HERE ON TWO FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.
THE APPLICANT HAS OFFERED, UM, BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT TURN TURN LANES WITH, UH, 200 FOOT OF STORAGE, 200 FOOT OF TAPER, UM, CONSISTENT, UM, WITH THE, UM, UPDATED ACCESS MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, UH, THERE IS A STUB ROAD, UM, TO THE NORTHERN PORT OF THE PROPERTY TO HERE.
UM, THERE IS A CEMETERY LOCATED HERE.
THIS WILL BE THE ACCESS FOR THAT.
UM, GENERALLY THE, THE BLUE THAT YOU SEE THERE ARE PROPOSED ARE POTENTIAL BMPS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, LITTLE UNUSUAL WITH THIS CASE IS THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF INTEREST AND A LOT OF, UM, UH, WORK AND CHANGES THROUGHOUT THE, THE PROCESS ON THE APPLICANT HAS HELD THREE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, UH, IN OCTOBER, UH, SIX CITIZENS AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MYERS WERE IN TENANTS PROPOSED AT THAT TIME WAS FOR 23 LOTS.
UM, THE CONCERNS THAT AROSE DURING DISCUSSION RELATED TO IMPROVEMENTS ON FAIR GROUND ROAD, DRAINAGE, BUFFERS, THE STUB ROAD, UM, AND THE LACK OF PUBLIC WATER AND THE OF FEAR OF IMPACT ON THE EXISTING WELLS.
UM, AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UH, CAME ABOUT DURING THAT, ABOUT THE FEASIBILITY OF EXTENDING UTILITIES TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE APPLICANT ASKED THE ATTENDEES AT THE TIME IF THEY ACCEPTED INCREASE IN DENSITY IN DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE NECESSITATED BY THE COST OF EXTENDING WATER TO THE SEWER.
AND THEY EXPRESSED IT AT THEIR ACCEPTANCE.
UM, IN DECEMBER OF 2021, UH, WE HAD A SECOND MEETING, UH, SOME MORE, UM, CITIZENS ATTENDED, UH, NONCITIZENS FOR THAT.
THE PROPOSAL WENT FROM 23 TO 27 LOTS.
UM, CONCERNS AT THAT TIME, UM, WERE GENERALLY THE SAME AS BEFORE ABOUT IMPROVEMENTS TO FAIRGROUND ROAD AND CONCERNED ABOUT STUB ROAD LOCATION.
UM, WITH THIS PROPOSAL OF THE APPLICANT HAD TALKED ABOUT BRINGING WATER TO THE SITE, UM, CONCERNS AROSE ABOUT THE VIABILITY OF SEPTICS ON THE PROPOSED LIGHT AND THE IMPACT THE SEPTIC SEPTIC USE ON NEARBY LOTS.
UM, CITIZENS ALSO SHARED THEIR CONCERNS, UM, ABOUT THE EXISTING TRAFFIC ALONG FAIR GROUND ROAD, UM, AND ALSO CONCERN ABOUT RESULTING INCREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES FOR SURROUNDING PROPERTY FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, IN FEBRUARY, UH, WE HAD THE LARGEST COMMUNITY MEETING.
UM, AT THAT TIME, UH, 25 CITIZENS ATTENDED.
THE PROPOSAL HAD NOW INCREASED TO 47 LOTS.
UM, AT THIS TIME, THE APPLICANT WAS PROPOSING BOTH WATER AND SEWER, UH, CONCERNS IN RELATED, UM, TO IMPACT THE
UM, THERE HAD BEEN TALK AT THAT POINT OF THE APPLICANT PROVIDING SOME SORT OF SIDEWALK OR PATH ACCESS OVER TO COMMUNITY, UM,
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TO IN ROCK PARK THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE CASE.UM, THIS IS AN, UH, AT TIME, UH, LAST, PRIOR TO PUTTING THIS SLIDE SHOW TOGETHER, WE HAD RECEIVED ONE EMAIL AND SUPPORT, 14 EMAILS RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THE BOARD HAS RECEIVED ON MORE COMMENTS TODAY.
UM, THE CONCERNS ARE REALLY RELATED ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ON FAIR GROUND ROAD IMPACTS ON SCHOOLS' GROWTH IN THE AREA.
UM, STAFF CONCERNS RELATED TO THIS PROPERTY IS THE PROPOSAL IS LOCATED IN COURTHOUSE VILLAGE.
IT DOES EXCEED THE CURRENTLY INDUCED RECOMMENDATION OF RESIDENTIAL, UM, LOW DENSITY.
WHAT THAT CALLS FOR IS LOTS ON TWO ACRES OR IF YOU'RE THINKING OF EQUIVALENT TYPE OF YIELD ON THE LANDS.
ABOUT 0.5, UM, DENSITY, UH, 40 LOTS ARE PROPOSED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT WITH THE DENSITY OF EIGHT ONE UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, THERE IS ADDITIONALLY A SIDEWALK SHOULD BE PROVIDED ON FAIR GROUND ROAD FOR THE EXISTING COMP PLAN.
RECOMMENDATION, UH, AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, AND WE MENTIONED BEFORE, CARDHOUSE VILLAGE PLAN IS UNDER EVALUATION, UM, THERE'S ALSO AN EVALUATION GOING ON FOR A FAIRGROUND ROAD WITH PDOT FOR WHAT THEY CALL A CORRIDOR STUDY ON THE EXACT SCOPING OF THAT IS STILL, UM, BEING WORKED OUT AND THAT WORK HAS NOT STARTED ON THAT, BUT ANTICIPATED A MAJORITY OF THATS BE FOCUSED ON SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, PROBABLY ULTIMATE DESIGN OF FAIR GROUND ROAD, SHORT AND LONG TERM SOLUTIONS.
UM, THE APPLICANT DOES PRO FOR PUBLIC AND WATER SEWER FOR THE LOTS AND IT'S PROVIDES THE CAPABILITY TO EXTEND TO THAT PROPERTY AND BEYOND.
UM, THEY OFFERING THE, THE REQUIRED FAIRGROUND ROAD RIGHT OF WAY AND OTHER ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, UM, BEING MET, WHICH IS BEEN GENERALLY WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ALONG FAIRGROUND ROAD.
WHAT'S BEEN INTERESTING IS GETTING THIS CASE THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, THERE WAS ORIGINALLY A TIE VOTE AT THE MAY PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, AT THAT TIME IT WAS RESCHEDULED FOR JUNE.
UM, THPO CITIZEN SPOKE OPPOSITION AT THE MAY PUBLIC HEARING.
IN JUNE, THE COMMISSION ACCEPTED A DEFERRAL REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT AT THE JUNE AND JULY MEETINGS, THE APPLICANT WAS TRYING TO FIND SOME SOLUTIONS, UM, POTENTIALLY FOR THE STUB ROAD AND OTHER TYPES OF, UM, ACTIVITIES.
UM, AT THE AUGUST MEETING, UM, THERE WAS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL THAT EMO THAT MOTION DID FAIL.
THUS, THE CASE COMES FORWARD TO YOU WITH A, UM, DENIAL RECOMMENDATION.
UM, 15 CITIZENS SPOKE AT THE MEETING, ONE IN SUPPORT, AND THE REST AND OPPOSITION STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY CHANGES IN THE APPLICATION SINCE THE HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, QUICKLY, INSTEAD OF LISTING EVERY PROFFER FOR YOU, UM, I'LL JUST GENERALLY RUN THROUGH THEM QUICKLY.
UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND BUILDING ELEVATIONS TO INCLUDE, UM, BUILDING MATERIALS, UH, CALLS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 40 LOTS.
UH, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON FAIR GROUND TO CUR LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES A HUNDRED FOR BUFFER PERIMETER AND ALONG FAIR GROUND ROAD.
UM, CONSTRUCTION IS LIMITED BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 8:00 PM AND OF COURSE, STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THEN I BELIEVE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF? NO, NOT YET.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD? OH, SORRY, LET'S SEE.
WHICH ONE ARE YOU? ANDREWS ONE FAIRGROUND BS OH, OH, THIS ONE.
ANDREW BROWNING, 9 2 3 STONE CASTLE DRIVE.
UH, YOUNG GLAD TORA ASSOCIATES HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, TRUITT REAL ESTATE INVESTMENTS.
SO THIS IS, UH, A UNIQUE PROJECT FOR ME AND, AND A COUPLE DIFFERENT REASONS.
UH, ONE IS THE DEVELOPER IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE DEVELOPER THAT I'M NORMALLY USED TO WORKING FOR, AND THAT HE HAS INHERITED THE PROPERTY AND HE'S SINCERELY BEEN CORDIAL IN AND TRYING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND STAFF AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
AND I FEEL LIKE HE'S A REALLY GOOD GUY AND HE'S, HE'S REALLY TRYING TO PUT THE BEST PLAN FORWARD.
UH, THE OTHER THING IS WE STARTED OUT WITH A LOWER DENSITY AND KIND OF INCREASED THROUGH THE PROJECT, WHICH NORMALLY WE START WITH A HIGHER DENSITY AND KIND OF WORKED THE OTHER WAY.
SO THAT'S MADE IT A LITTLE UNIQUE AS WELL.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR ABOUT A YEAR NOW.
AT FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING WAS IN OCTOBER OF 2021.
UH, AS, AS RAY HAD MENTIONED, WE HAD THREE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND WE'VE BEEN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TWICE.
SO I JUST WANNA BOUNCE THROUGH A COUPLE REAL QUICKLY THE PLANS THAT WE INITIALLY SUBMITTED.
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SO THAT WAS THE FIRST PLAN THAT WE CAME IN WITH, WAS 23 LOTS.WE MOVED TO STUB ROAD IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION, THEN WE WENT TO 47 LOTS.
AND THEN WE CAME BACK DOWN TO THE PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, UH, THAT HAS 40 LOTS.
AND THROUGHOUT ALL THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE WERE IN RESPONSE TO EITHER NEIGHBOR CONCERNS, UH, COUNTY CONCERNS, VIDO CONCERNS, AND WHAT, WHAT DROVE THAT WAS.
YOU KNOW, INITIALLY WE HEARD CONCERNS ABOUT WELLS AND SEPTIC AND BUFFERS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
FAIRGROUNDS ROAD WAS ALWAYS THERE.
BUT AS WE IN, IN THE COUNTY, ALSO ENCOURAGED US TO CONNECT TO THE UTILITIES.
SO AS WE INCREASED THOSE UTILITIES AND CONNECTED THOSE UTILITIES, THERE WAS A COST ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
AND SO WE TRIED TO OFFSET THAT COST WITH, WITH ADDITIONAL LOTS.
BUT WHAT IT ALSO ALLOWED WAS THE LOTS TO BECOME SMALLER LOTS, UH, AND, AND IT ALLOWED US TO CLUSTER THEM MORE AND TO GIVE A LARGER BUFFER AROUND THE PERIMETER.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO GIVE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER COMPLETELY AROUND THE ENTIRE PROJECT, WHICH IS KIND OF UNHEARD OF WITH A, WITH A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
UM, WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT THE TURN LANES AND, AND THE ACTUAL, THE RIGHT OF WAY REQUIRED FOR THE ULTIMATE FAIRGROUND SECTION.
SO WE'RE GIVEN 37 AND A HALF FOOT OF RIGHT AWAY ALONG THE WHOLE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY FOR THE FUTURE ROAD EXPANSION.
UM, AND WE, WE MOVE THE STUB ROAD TO THIS LOCATION BASED ON, UH, VDOT S UH, REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE STUB ROAD A LITTLE BIT.
UH, VDOT REQUIRES TWO EXTERNAL CONNECTION POINTS TO A SUBDIVISION FOR THEIR SECONDARY STREET ACCEPTANCE REQUIREMENTS.
AND YOU HAVE TO MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS TO GET YOUR ROADS ACCEPTED INTO THE STATE SYSTEM.
ONE CONNECTION TO FAIRGROUND WOULD COUNT, BUT I HAVE TO HAVE A SECOND CONNECTION TO EITHER ANOTHER ROAD WHICH WE CAN'T DO, OR AN ADJACENT STUB ROAD STUB PARCEL, I MEAN A ADJACENT PARCEL.
SO THE STUB ROAD MUST DEDICATE RIGHT AWAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE, THE ROAD SEGMENT, UH, ADJO PROPERTY FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT TO PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY TO A FUTURE PUBLIC STREET NETWORK.
THE LOCATIONS BASED ON SPACING, TERRAIN AND REASONABLE EXPECTATION THAT THE FUTURE, FUTURE CONNECTION WITH THE FUTURE STREET IS POSSIBLE.
THE STUB ROAD ALSO HAS TO BE CONNECT, UH, CONSTRUCTED ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO NOT JUST THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE ROAD ITSELF HAS TO BE BUILT AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
THE VDOT RESIDENT ENGINEER HAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION ON WHERE THE STUB IS LOCATED.
UH, WE HAVE TRIED MULTIPLE LOCATIONS FOR THE STUB ROAD.
WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH VDOT.
WE'VE HAD A MEETING WITH VDOT THAT WE RAN AROUND ALL OVER TOWN FOR A HALF A DAY TO, TO GET ON THEIR SCHEDULE, UH, WITH A COUPLE JOINING PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, THE DEVELOPERS AGREEABLE TO STUB IT IN ANY LOCATION OR NOT STUB IT AT ALL, BUT IT, WE ARE REQUIRED TO STUB IT.
AND SO THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH AS SOON AS TODAY.
STILL CORRESPONDING WITH VDOT.
AND TO DATE VDOT, THE ENGINEER HAS BEEN UNWILLING TO STUB THE ROAD IN ANY OTHER LOCATION OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE.
UH, TALK ABOUT DENSITY IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THE PROJECT COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED IN THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, WHICH ONE OF THE TWO MAJOR VILLAGES DESIGNATED IN THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLA UH, PLAN STATES THAT MAJOR VILLAGES SHOULD FEATURE VARIED HOUSING TYPES AND DENSITIES.
MULTIPLE PROVISIONS WERE MADE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ALLOW FOR HIGHER DENSITIES IF SEWER CAPACITY WERE TO BECOME AVAILABLE.
RECENT UPGRADES IN THE EFFICIENCY AT THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND THE UPSIZING OF THE VALLEY VIEW FORCE MAIN HAVE MADE THE ADDITIONAL SEWER CAPACITY A, A REALITY.
THIS PROJECT IS NO DCI, NO DIFFERENT THAN REED MARSH OR RURAL HILL, WHICH HAD THE SAME LAND USE DESIGNATION AND WERE REZONED FOR HIGHER DENSITIES.
UH, THIS SLIDE SHOWS, UH, THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE DENSITIES.
UH, THE VILLAGE AT HIDDEN ROCK IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING PATTERN OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE COURTHOUSE.
IT'S LESS DENSE THAN REED MARSH, WHICH HAD A DENSITY OF 1.14 UNITS AN ACRE LESS DENSE THAN SWANS, IN WHICH WAS 1.27 UNITS AN ACRE.
A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY THAN RURAL HILL, WHICH WAS 0.64.
RURAL HILL HAD PUBLIC WATER, BUT ONLY A PORTION HAD PUBLIC SEWER.
UH, REED MARONS ONES THEN HAD PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER, UH, AND THE VILLAGE OF HIDDEN ROCK WILL HAVE PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER, AND THE DENSITY WOULD BE 0.81 UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, TRAFFIC STUDY, THE INITIAL TRAFFIC STUDY WAS PERFORMED IN SEPTEMBER, 2021, ASSUMING 23 LOTS, AND WAS REQUIRED TO ANALYZE THE INTERSECTIONS OF FAIRGROUND ROAD AND MAIDENS ROAD, AS WELL AS FAIRGROUNDS ROAD IN THE SITE ENTRANCE.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS UPDATED IN FEBRUARY OF 2022 TO INCLUDE THE 47 LOTS.
THE STUDY INCLUDED THE TRAFFIC FROM REED MARSH AND RURAL HILL AND SWANS, AND THAT'S COME UP A COUPLE TIMES WHETHER THAT WAS INCLUDED, IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
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SHOWED WERE THAT THE TURNING MOVEMENTS AT MAIDEN'S ROAD AND FAIRGROUNDS INTERSECTION OPERATE AT THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR THE 2024 BUILD OUT.UH, WHETHER THE SUBDIVISION IS BUILT OR NOT BUILT, THE, THE, THE INTERSECTION WILL HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE.
TRAFFIC FROM THE SUBDIVISION IS INSIGNIFICANT TO THE OVERALL FUNCTIONALITY OF THE INTERSECTION.
AND THE, THE STUDY, UH, CAME BACK THAT NO TURN LANES WERE WARRANTED FOR THE SITE ENTRANCE AND WERE PROVIDING LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES.
THERE WAS SOME QUESTION, UH, QUESTIONING, UH, WITH THE CITIZENS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS DUE TO COVID.
SO WE WENT BACK OUT AND RECOUNTED THEM IN SEPTEMBER, 2021, AND THE TRAFFIC NUMBERS CAME BACK IN, UH, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS THEY WERE FROM THE FIRST COUNT.
UH, THIS SLIDE IS GONNA MAKE ME THE MOST POPULAR PERSON IN THE ROOM, I ASSURE YOU.
SO I, I WORKED WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND, AND, AND IT SYMBOLS SOME VDOT DATA JUST TO KIND OF PUT THIS OUT THERE.
SO BASED ON 2021 TRAFFIC DATA FROM VDOT, THAT SECTION OF FAIRGROUNDS ROAD, SO FROM SANDY HOOK ROAD 5 22 TO MAINS ROAD, CARRIES 6,700 VEHICLES PER DAY.
V DOT'S CARRYING CAPACITY FOR THAT SECTION OF THE ROAD IS ABOUT 12,000 VEHICLES PER DAY.
SO WE'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER HALF OF THE VDOT SAYS IS THE CARRYING CAPACITY OF THAT ROAD.
THIS PROJECT WILL GENERATE 400 VEHICLES PER DAY, WHICH IS A, THE IS 10 TRIPS PER LOT PER DAY.
UH, IS IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT.
AND THAT COMES FROM THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS TRIP GENERATION MANUAL.
SOME OF THIS CAME UP IN THE PLANET COMMISSION, THAT'S WHY I'M EXPLAINING IT, WHICH IS BASED ON RECORDED TRIP DATA FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
SO THIS PROJECT WILL GENERATE ABOUT A 6% INCREASE INTO THE TRAFFIC ON FAIRGROUNDS.
ROAD TRAFFIC STUDIES TYPICALLY LOOK AT THE WORST TRAFFIC TIMES.
SO THE PEAK HOUR AND THE AM AND THE PM THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE 24 CARS IN THE AM AND 32 CARS AT, IN THE THE PM AT THE FAIRGROUNDS MAIDEN'S INTERSECTION.
THE CURRENT INTERSECTION CARRIES 989 CARS IN THE AM AND 1,199 CARS IN THE PM.
SO THE TRAFFIC FROM THE SUBDIVISION INCREASES THE PEAK HOUR TRAFFIC AT THAT INTERSECTION FROM THE SUBDIVISION INCREASES BY TWO TO 3%.
UH, BOTH REED MARSH AND RURAL HILL ACTUALLY ADD MORE TRAFFIC TO FAIRGROUNDS ROAD THAN THE VILLAGE AT HIDDEN ROCK.
AND IT'S MY OPINION THAT SINCE THE SUBDIVISION LIES ON FAIRGROUNDS ROAD, IT'S KIND OF BEARING A LOT OF THE BURDEN OF FAIRGROUNDS ROAD IMPROVEMENT BECAUSE OF THAT.
IS THAT, IS ITS ACCESS, UH, THIS INFORMA.
THE NEXT INFORMATION WE GOT FROM VI I COLLECTS COLLISION DATA.
AND THIS WAS THE COLLISION DATA FOR THE INTERSECTION OF FAIRGROUNDS ROAD IN MAIDENS.
AND SO SINCE 2015, SO SEVEN YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN 10 COLLISIONS AT THAT INTERSECTION OR WITHIN A 200 FOOT DISTANCE FROM THAT INTERSECTION.
UH, 9,000 CARS PER DAY GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.
SO THAT'S 3.3 MILLION CARS PER YEAR.
IF YOU DO THE MATH, THIS COMES UP TO 0.45 COLLISIONS PER YEAR PER MILLION CARS.
VIDI HAS A THEY FLAG INTERSECTION OR THEIR KIND OF REQUIREMENT IF THEY DON'T CONSIDER IT A PROBLEM UNTIL THAT NUMBER HITS ONE COLLISION PER YEAR PER MILLION VEHICLES THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
SO IT'S NOT EVEN HALFWAY THERE BEFORE VDOT WOULD FLAG THAT INTERSECTION AS A PROBLEM.
UH, THIS SLIDE IS JUST KIND OF A BLOW UP OF SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG, UH, FAIRGROUND ROAD INTO THE SITE LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES.
WE'RE DOING A 600 FOOT TRANSITION ON EITHER SIDE.
UH, THERE'S A EIGHT FOOT PAVED SHOULDER.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE THE CORRECT SLOPE TO THE DITCH, AN ACTUAL DITCH IN THE SHOULDER SO YOU DON'T RUN OFF THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
SO WE'RE IMPROVING THE, THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY ALONG FAIR GROUND ROAD.
JUST WANNA SPEAK REAL QUICKLY ABOUT SOME OF THE BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY.
UH, QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, CLOSE TO THE SCHOOLS LIBRARY AND Y M C A DEVELOPMENT AND AREA DESIGNATED FOR GROWTH.
REDUCE URBAN SPRAWL INTO RURAL AREAS OF THE COUNTY, ADDED ROOFTOPS TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESS.
WE PROFIT ELEVATIONS AND CONDITIONS TO ENSURE QUALITY OF DEVELOPMENT.
UH, EXTENSION AND CONNECTION TO PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER WOULD SHOW UP ON THE COUNTY MASTER UTILITY PLAN TO BE EXTENDED IN THE FUTURE.
AND NOW IT'LL BE EXTENDED ON THE DEVELOPER'S DIME.
UH, THE IMPROVEMENTS ALONG FAIRGROUND ROAD, ALONG THE FRONTAGE LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES, AND WE'RE DEDICATING 1.6 ACRES OF RIGHT OF AWAY ALONG THE FRONT FOR THE FUTURE.
ROAD WIDE, SOME FINANCIAL BENEFITS TO THE COUNTY.
UH, THE DEVELOPER AGREES TO PAY THE FULL CASH PROFFER AND AMOUNT OF $13,781, A LOT AS DETERMINED BY THE COUNTY CAPITAL GAINS, UH, CAPITAL IMPACTS MODEL, ASSUMING 40 HOMES CASH PROFFERS WILL TOTAL $551,240 TO BE LOCATED TO FUTURE ROADS,
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PARKS, PUBLIC SAFETY.ASSUMING FOUR 40 HOMES CONNECTED TO PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER, THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE 448,000 IN WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION FEES BASED ON AN ASSUMED AVERAGE VALUE OF $425,000 PER HOME.
THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE $90,100 ANNUALLY IN REAL ESTATE TAXES AND 1400 FOOT EXTENSION OF PUBLIC ORDER AND SEWER AT A COST OF APPROXIMATELY 250 TO $300,000.
UH, I THINK WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO, TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS, UH, THE COUNTY STAFF AND VIDOT.
AND WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROJECT WE HAVE FOR FOUR YOU IS A GOOD PROJECT.
UH, THE DEVELOPMENT LIES WITHIN THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE.
IT'S IN AN AREA DESIGNATED FOR GROWTH.
WE ARE EXTENDING PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER AND PROVING FAIR FAIRGROUND ROAD ALONG THE, THE PROPERTY FRONTAGE AND WITH LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES.
UH, THEREFORE WE ASK FOR YOUR VOTE OF APPROVAL ON THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, MS.
YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE ESTIMATE IS THAT THIS PROJECT DOES NOT AFFECT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AT MADDENS IN FAIRGROUND ROAD.
WHAT IS THE LEVEL SERVICE THERE? I'LL GRAB SOMETHING AND I CAN TELL YOU I HAVE MY TRAFFIC, SO DIDN'T RAIN UP.
I'M NOT A TRAFFIC ENGINEER, BUT I'VE LEARNED A WHOLE LOT ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDIES RECENTLY.
SO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TODAY OF THAT INTERSECTION, SO IT'S, IT, IT'S BASED ON DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS.
SO DIFFERENT MOVEMENTS EXHIBIT DIFFERENT LEVELS OF SERVICE.
AND SO THE, THE WORST MOVEMENT OF THAT INTERSECTION IS IF YOU WERE DRIVING NORTH ON MAIDENS ROAD AND YOU TRY TO TAKE A LEFT TO COME WEST ON FAIR GROUND BACK TOWARDS THE COURTHOUSE IN THE EVENING, THAT IS THE WORST MOVEMENT OF THE WHOLE INTERSECTION AT ANY TIME.
AND SO TODAY, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF THAT MOVEMENT IS A C IF SO, THEY USUALLY DO THE STUDY AND THEY MAKE YOU LOOK THREE YEARS IN ADVANCE AND THEY ADD A, A FACTOR FOR INCREASED TRAFFIC.
SO WHEN YOU MOVE OUT TO NO BUILD CONDITIONS IN 2024, THE LEVEL OF SERVICE OF THAT MOVEMENT WILL BE AN E.
IF YOU BUILD THE SUBDIVISION, IT'S STILL AN E.
THE THE, WHAT CHANGES IS THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT YOU WOULD SIT AT THAT INTERSECTION.
SO TODAY THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS THAT YOU WOULD SIT FOR 25 SECONDS TO TURN LEFT.
AND SO I WENT MYSELF AND SAT THERE AND DID IT A COUPLE TIMES FROM FIVE TO SIX O'CLOCK TO SEE, AND IT'S CLOSE, YOU KNOW, I HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AND, AND MAYBE SOMETIMES THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ODDITIES.
BUT I DID IT A COUPLE DIFFERENT TIMES AND I WAS SIMILAR TO 25 TO 30 SECONDS.
SO THE TRAFFIC STUDY SAYS IN 2024, AT THAT TIME THAT YOU WOULD WAIT TO GET THROUGH THAT QUEUE WOULD BE 42 SECONDS.
WITH THE SUBDIVISION IT GOES TO 46 SECONDS.
SO INCREASES THAT TIME BY FOUR SECONDS.
VERY FEW TRIPS ARE TURNING THERE, THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.
SO YOU'RE HAVING TO WAIT TO GET THAT BREAK IN THE TRAFFIC TO MAKE THAT MOVEMENT, WHICH ISN'T, WHICH INCREASES IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. LUMPKINS.
I'LL JUST SAY THE MOST MEMORABLE PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION WAS AT THE BEGINNING YOU SAID THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION.
YOU'RE WORKING WITH A DEVELOPER WHO IS A GOOD GUY IN TRYING TO DO A GOOD JOB.
I GUESS YOU'RE FIGURING YOUR EXISTING CLIENT, OTHER CLIENTS ARE NOT WATCHING
NO, I SHOULDN'T SAY IT LIKE THAT.
SO WHAT WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS DEVELOPMENT COSTS.
YOU DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN YOURSELF.
THEY'RE CRAZY HIGH, RIGHT? AND SO MOST OF THE TIME WE HAVE TO GET AS MUCH AS WE CAN OUT OF EVERY PROJECT OR IT'S NOT FEASIBLE BECAUSE OF THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT.
I KNEW YOUR POINT WAS THAT IS IS EXTREMELY HIGH.
SO HE INHERITED THE LAND AND HE DOESN'T HAVE THAT LAND COSTS OR CARRYING COSTS.
AND THAT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY.
I, I UNDERSTOOD, BUT I WAS JUST, HE IS A GREAT GUY.
UM, AND THE NUMBERS YOU TALKED ABOUT WHEN YOU WERE ASKING THIS ANSWERING MISS LASETTE QUESTION, UM, DOES THAT COUNT RURAL HILL AND AND REED MARSH FULLY, FULLY BUILT OUT? YES.
THAT QUESTION CAME UP A FEW TIMES, SO I PUT A NOTE IN IT, BUT IT, IT, IT DOES SWANS IN REED MARSH AND RURAL HILL.
AND COULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR SLIDE IN THE BEGINNING WHERE YOU SHOWED THAT THE, THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE CLOSER TO THE VILLAGE CENTER, YOU WERE GIVEN THE, UH, YOU KNOW, COM, COM COMPARABLES RIGHT THERE.
THIS SO ALL, SO, SO THIS SHOWS REED MARSH RURAL HILL, UH, IT HAD, IT SHOWS SWANS IN DOWN AT THE BOTTOM AS WELL.
WHERE SOME OF THE NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED IT, WE DON'T SHOW ALL THE WHEEL OVER A HIDDEN, I I DON'T, IT'S NOT THAT MUCH.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THIS CASE, IT DOESN'T GO THAT FAR.
YEAH, I WAS JUST KIND OF, I'M LOOKING AT OUR, LOOKING AT THE COMP PLAN THAT
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THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL AREAS IN THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, BUT I, I THINK THAT'S THE MOST DENSE RESIDENTIAL CLASSIFICATION WE HAVE.AND THAT'S 2.5 UNITS PER ACRE IS WHAT THIS SAYS.
SO SWANS IN COULD HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT DESIGNATION.
REED MARSH AND RURAL HILL HAD THE, HAD THE LOW DENSITY SWANS IN MAY HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION ON THE COMP PLAN BECAUSE IT WAS CLOSER IN THERE.
AND IT MAY HAVE HAD SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN DONE AT THIS A SIMILAR TIME, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S FLEXIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL IT SAYS.
SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT, UM, CLASS, BUT AGAIN, THE TIMING READ, UH, SWANS IN WAS PROBABLY THIS PLAN WAS DONE IN 2015 AND PROBABLY IN THE SIMILAR TIMEFRAME.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPLICATOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU MR. BROWN.
ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, WE ARE GOING TO OPEN OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
WE HAVE, UM, THERE'S QUITE A FEW PEOPLE IN HERE TONIGHT, SO I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, OPINIONS AND YOU WANT TO HEAR THEM ALL.
WE HAVE RESERVED THIS FRONT ROW WHAT I, WHAT I'VE ASKED YOU TO DO.
SO WE, THERE'S A LOT OF TIME SPENT CRAWLING OVER PEOPLE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO IF YOU WANNA MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE, IF YOU WANT, IF YOU'RE INTENDING TO SPEAK, PLEASE MAKE YOUR WAY TO WHEN THE, THERE'S A SEAT OPEN IN THE FRONT AND THEN COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
AND, UH, PLEASE SPEAK TO US FOR THREE MINUTES.
AND, UH, IF WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, GRANTING OTHER FOLKS TIME, WE CAN GO INTO THAT.
BUT AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOE, I GUESS I'LL BE THE FIRST VICTIM.
I GOT WHERE THERE'S CANDY FOR YOU,
I'M STILL WAITING ON MY DINNER.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. AND MRS. BOARD MEMBERS, MISS DEPUTY CLERK AND MISS COURT OF ATTORNEY.
I RESIDE AT 2 0 7 OH MAIDENS ROAD.
IT'S, UH, THE PROPERTY NORTH OF MR. GREEN BOMB'S PROPERTY.
UM, GOT A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO HARP ON TONIGHT.
UH, THE FIRST WOULD BE FROM OUR LAST MEETING, MR. DUKE HAD TALKED ABOUT UPGRADING THE BASIC SERVICES FOR OUR COUNTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE NO CHILDCARE.
WE HAVE ONE PLACE THAT PROVIDES CHILDCARE WITHIN THE WHOLE COUNTY, AND WE HAVE A FOOD LINE.
WE HAVE HARDLY NO AUTO, AUTO PARTS STORE.
NAPA WAS FINALLY BOUGHT OUT, YOU KNOW, UM, SO WE NEED BETTER SERVICES FOR THE, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW.
NOT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WERE COMING TO THE COUNTY.
UH, HE HAD HARPED ON THESE 40 HOMES WOULD BASICALLY PAY FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW.
THESE 40 AFFORDABLE HOMES ARE NOT GONNA PAY FOR THE SERVICES THAT OUR CITIZENS NEED RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE DID A PETITION LAST MEETING.
WE, UH, PROVIDED IT TO ASHLEY AND SHE UPLOADED IT ONLINE.
THERE WAS ABOUT 75 SIGNATURES ON THAT ONE PETITION.
ALL OF 'EM WERE LOCAL CITIZENS WITH THEIR ADDRESSES.
I HAVE A COPY OF IT WITH ME TONIGHT.
I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WERE, THEY PROVIDED YOU ALL A COPY OF THE PREVIOUS SIGNATURES THAT WE GOT.
UM, BUT I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO MRS. ALZ.
AFTER, AFTER THE MEETING, UM, WE DID A NEW SURVEY THAT WAS ONLINE AND IN PERSON.
WE HAVE 84 SIGNATURES ON THE ONLINE SURVEY THAT WE CAN PROVIDE.
AND THEN WE HAVE 18 TO 20 SIGNATURES IN PERSON, UM, THAT WE CAN PROVIDE AS WELL.
SO ALL I CAN SAY IS, YOU KNOW, PLEASE TAKE THE CITIZENS INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU CASH YOUR VOTE TONIGHT.
UM, I THINK IT'S TOO MUCH TOO SOON.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, HALF ACRE LOTS, 49 HOUSES ON 40 ACRES IS JUST TOO MUCH.
SO PLEASE TAKE EVERYBODY'S THOUGHTS AND THE CONSIDERATION WHEN CASHING INFO TONIGHT.
I ASK FOR DENIAL OF THIS REZONING CASE.
HI, I'M MATTHEW'S, UM, NEIGHBOR, REBECCA HEDRICK.
MY FAMILY RESIDES AT 2100 MAIDEN'S ROAD.
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IF TONIGHT YOU WOULD VOTE NO TO THIS PROPOSAL.UH, GLAND COUNTY HAS SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.
WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES, NOR DO WE WANT THE CHAOS THAT WOULD ENSUE AND THE LITERAL DEATH OF THE RURAL EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAVE IN THE, IN THIS COUNTY.
I LIVE AT 2052 MAIDENS ROAD AND THERE'S THREE THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.
UH, THE FIRST THING IS I'VE HEARD IT BANED ABOUT THIS IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN GLAND.
IT IS NOT, IT IS NO DIFFERENT THAN REID MARSH AND SWANS IN ALL OF WHICH ARE RATHER EXPENSIVE HOMES, BEAUTIFUL HOMES EXPENSIVE.
THE SECOND IS THE TRAFFIC STUDY INFORMATION.
UM, I LISTENED, BUT I LIVE AT THE CORNER OF FAIR GROUND IN MAIDEN'S ROAD, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE TRAFFIC IS ASTONISHING.
UM, AND WHATEVER THEIR STUDY REPRESENTS, YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THE FACTS THAT THEY COME OUT WITH THE REPORTS.
BUT I ALSO CAN TELL YOU THAT ANECDOTALLY, ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM WOULD TELL YOU THAT WITH THE ADDITION OF THESE NEW HOMES AND THE REED MARSH AND RURAL HILL AND SWANS IN TO TELL, TO SAY THAT, THAT IS NOT GOING TO AFFECT US ON FAIR GROUND ROAD IS INSANITY.
THE THIRD THING IS, I GET EMOTIONAL.
I, I WAS IN A HEAD ON COLLISION ON FAIRGROUND ROAD AND I WAS NOT AT FAULT.
I HAVE PERMANENT DAMAGE TO MY EYE AND MANY BROKEN BONES, AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE ELSE TO HAVE TO EXPERIENCE WHAT I EXPERIENCED.
AND MORE CARS IS MORE ACCIDENTS.
I'M WENDY HOBBS AND I LIVE IN SANDY HOOK AND I STAND BEFORE THE BOARD TO REQUEST THAT YOU SUPPORT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION.
UM, FAIR GROUND ROAD IS A VERY BUSY ROAD STRUCTURE, BUT WHAT ALSO CONCERNS ME IS THE FACT THAT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT A 17 MILLION PROJECT IF THE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE FOR WHAT I THINK HE SAID 4 25.
AND SO THAT IN THIS COUNTY IS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND AND THAT'S BEEN, THOSE OF YOU ALL KNOW ME, KNOW THAT THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF MY BANS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IS THAT OUR FIRST LINE STAFF CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE IN GLAND COUNTY.
AND SO THE PRICE OF THESE HOUSES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED DOES NOT BRING THAT IN LINE WHERE OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR TEACHERS, OUR NURSES, OUR CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS THAT WORK HERE CAN AFFORD TO LIVE HERE.
AND 4 25 IS NOT GONNA HELP THOSE PEOPLE.
AND SO I, I REALLY THINK THAT, UM, SAFETY IS A FACTOR ON FI FAIRGROUND ROAD.
I DON'T CARE WHAT TIME OF DAY YOU GO DOWN THAT ROAD, THE THE SHOULDERS ARE DEEP AND OFF.
IF YOU COME ACROSS SOMEONE, YOU HAVE NOWHERE TO GO, BUT OFF THE ROAD, IT IS A DANGEROUS ROAD.
AND UNTIL THAT'S CORRECTED, I I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE NEGLIGENT IN SUPPORTING A PROJECT OF THIS NATURE.
HI, MY NAME'S UH, JENNIFER STROGER.
I LIVE IN OILVILLE 1810 FOX DOWNS LANE.
UM, I HADN'T EXPECTED TO SPEAK, BUT UM, THIS IS THE FIRST I'D HEARD WITH ALL THE DETAILS.
UM, I TOO WOULD LIKE TO, UM, SAY THAT THIS IS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I KNOW TOO MANY PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTY WHO WORK AT OUR SCHOOLS, WHO TAKE CARE OF US, UM, WHO WE SEE EVERY DAY WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT.
AND I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANYMORE HOUSES OF THAT EXPENSE HERE.
AND I TOO DRIVE THAT ROAD EVERY DAY.
AND I KNOW MAKING THAT LEFT ONTO FAIRGROUND FROM MAIDEN'S IS DANGEROUS.
MAKING THE LEFT ONTO FAIRGROUND FROM MAIDEN'S GOING THE OTHER WAY IS DANGEROUS.
KIDS COME HOME FROM SCHOOL DOWN
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THAT ROAD.UM, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN DEVELOPERS COME IN, THEY CLAIM THAT THERE AREN'T GONNA BE A LOT OF KIDS GOING TO SCHOOL SOMEHOW.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A LOT OF KIDS COMING OUT OF THAT ROAD.
I DON'T SEE HOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THAT TRACK TRAFFIC OF KIDS COMING AND GOING FROM SCHOOL AND NOT HAVE ACCIDENTS ON THAT STRETCH.
EVEN COMING OUT OF THE, UM, THE DUMP CAN BE A REALLY HARD THING.
ARE YOU MISS STROZIER? HI, MY NAME IS KATHY KELLY.
UM, BURK, I LIVE AT 2368 TWIN CREEKS, LANE MAIDEN'S.
AND I'D LIKE TO GIVE MY MINUTES TO MR. BINS.
HEY GUYS, I'M DAVID MOORE FROM 24 12 AIR ON ROAD AT YIELD AT BEN AS WELL.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, MY NAME IS BEN.
I RESIDE AT 2 0 52 MAIDEN ROAD, MAIDENS, VIRGINIA, I DUNNO, POWERPOINT, WALNUT TO GO FULL SCREEN.
AND SHE WHI THINK YOU GO BACK TO THE BACK ARROW AND THEN THE POWERPOINT UP ON THE TOP, THAT SHOW OR X THAT OUT, X THAT OUT.
THIS IS ALL IN FIRST I HEAR THE TECH.
GARY, WHICH ONE IS IT? IT'S, UM, HEARING TOP ONE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MADAMS SECRETARY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE.
UH, AS, AS TALKED BEFORE WITH REGARDS TO HAPPINESS AND SAFETY, THAT'S RIGHT OUT OF OUR CONSTITUTION.
AND REALLY THAT FALLS DOWN BACK TO 15 TO 2 2200 DEALING WITH ALL THE ASPECTS OF WHAT'S AFFORDED TO THE COUNTY, UH, GOVERNMENTS, GOVERNANCE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE PROPER, UH, CONDUCT IS, PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, CONVENIENCE, ET CETERA.
AND I REALLY HAVE TWO ISSUES WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UH, BOTH OF 'EM ARE PERSONAL AND ONE OF THEM IS, UH, ALSO I'LL SAY APPLIES TO THE, THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND ALL CITIZENS OF THE COUNTY.
THE FIRST ONE IS, UH, I'M, I'VE GOT A STUDY THAT WAS DONE IN 2015 TALKING ABOUT FAIR GROUND ROUTE ROAD AND WITHIN 10 TO 15 YEARS, THIS IS FROM 2005, HOW IT'S GONNA BE IMPROVED.
IT STILL HASN'T BEEN IMPROVED IN TERMS OF THE ABSOLUTE UH, WORK.
IT SAID IT'S GONNA BE DONE IN HERE WITH REGARDS TO IT IN THE 20, UH, 24, THE MAJOR 30, UH, EXCUSE ME, 20 18 20 40 STUDY.
YOU'LL SEE UP HERE WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT FAIR GROUND ROAD IS A MINOR ARTERIAL AND IT HAS A NUMBER OF ACCENTS CARRYING THAT FURTHER, WHAT YOU'LL SEE ON THIS SLIDE IS THE FACT THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE OF FOUR-LANE ROAD.
AND IF WE GO BACK TO THE DATA SHOWING THAT WE'RE EXCEEDING THAT AND JUST TODAY WE RECEIVED MORE DATA IN SHOWING THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY 8,700 VEHICLES PER DAY ON FAIR GROUND ROAD, WHICH IS ALREADY EXCEEDING THE LIMITS.
THIS CAME FROM THE, UH, COUNTY TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
SO YOU START LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBERS, THEY'RE FAR BEYOND WHAT WE'VE EVEN TALKED ABOUT HERE TODAY SO FAR.
AND THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF WE LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY DESIGNATED IN THE COUNTY AND IT'S ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP, THERE ARE 228 HOMES YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED WITHIN THIS FEEDER SYSTEM FOR THIS ROAD.
I DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT DOESN'T, I CAN, I CAN TAKE 10 MINUTES TO GO TO OILVILLE TO GET OUT TO SOMEWHERE GOING ONTO THE WEST END.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SLIDE, WHAT YOU'LL SEE, YOU'VE ALREADY CORRECTED ON THE EAST END, I BELIEVE THE PROBLEMS THERE WERE 2 88 AND ALSO BROAD STREET ROAD WHERE IT WAS NOT FOUR LANES.
WHAT YOU'LL SEE THE LARGEST AREA ON THERE IS FAIR GROUND ROAD THAT'S FROM, THIS IS FROM THE 2017 STUDY THAT WAS RELEASED IN 2018.
THIS IS A CONTINUING PROBLEM AND IT'S ALREADY GONNA BE EXACERBATED BY THE FACT THERE'S HOMES ALREADY RURAL HILL, SO ON'S IN AND REED MARSH THERE, THEY'RE ALREADY APPROVED THE ACCIDENT RATES GOING UP, PERIOD.
I DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW LONG IT TAKES TO ME TO GET TO I 64.
I CARE ABOUT GETTING THERE SAFELY WITH MY FAMILY, WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
THAT'S WHERE I THINK IS A TREMENDOUS ISSUE.
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LET ME GO BACK TO THE CONSTITUTION AGAIN.JUST TALKING ABOUT DAMAGING THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND, AND TALK ABOUT THE STUB OUT THE STUB ROAD.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION, THERE'S NOTHING IN CODE OF VIRGINIA.
THE ONLY PLACE THAT SHOWS UP IN, IN SUMMIT AND IS PROPERLY REFERENCED JUST MOMENT AGO BY ANDREW IS SS R WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT STUB ROAD.
I DON'T WANT THE STUB ROAD ON OUR PROPERTY.
MY WIFE, MY FAMILY DOESN'T WANT THE STUB ON OUR PROPERTY, BUT THE DICTATES OF THE, UH, VDOT HAS PUT IT THERE.
THEY HAVE NOT INVESTIGATED OUR PROPERTY IN TERMS OF, IF YOU LOOK THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT PROPER CONNECTIVITY.
IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.
THEY'VE NEVER LOOKED AT THE CURRENT TERRAIN.
THE CURRENT TERRAIN DOESN'T SUPPORT IT.
IT CUZ THERE'S WETLANDS THERE.
THE ONLY PLACE THAT CAN BE DENIED IS BY YOU LOOK RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT RED PLACE WHERE IT SAYS COUNTY, THAT'S, AND THE VDOT HAS TOLD ME THERE'S NO APPEAL PROCESS AND VDOT AT ALL FOR THIS PERIOD.
IT'S ONLY THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS THAT CAN MAKE THE CHANGE TO DENY IT.
IF YOU LOOK HERE AND I'LL POINT OUT PROPERTIES, THESE ARE OUR TWO PROPERTIES HERE.
THIS IS THE DABNEY'S, THE WEARERS, MATTHEW AND AND FAMILY.
AND UH, THIS IS ALSO THE, THE VET AREA.
AND THIS IS THE MOORES WHO DAVID JUST, UH, YIELDED THE TIME TO.
THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT CONFIGURATIONS.
AS AS ANDREW WENT THROUGH AND WE ASKED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, WE'VE BEEN VERY CONSISTENT NOT TO HAVE THAT STUB ROAD ON OUR PROPERTY.
IF YOU LOOK WHERE IT IS, IT'S GONNA COME THROUGH BOTH OF OUR PROPERTIES SOMEWHERE.
AND I KNOW THE COUNTY CAN'T SAY NO INMATE DOMAIN.
I KNOW THE COUNTY CAN'T SAY THAT ROAD WILL NEVER BE FORCED TO GO THROUGH THAT AIR THROUGH OUR LAND.
I DON'T WANT IT TO AND I DON'T WANT ANY RESERVATIONS TO BE PUT ON OUR LAND BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT SIGN HAS TO GO RIGHT ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY LINE.
THAT'S PER THE DOCUMENT THAT'S NOT DOCUMENTED ANYWHERE WITHIN THE CODE OF VIRGINIA OR ANYWHERE ELSE OTHER THAN THESE VDOT DOCUMENTS.
I'M ASKING YOU TO DENY THIS JUST ON THE STUBBORN ALONE AND THE ACCIDENT RATE THAT'S GOING UP.
YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED MORE HOMES THAT ARE GONNA FLOOD MORE PEOPLE ONTO THE ROUTE THAT'S GONNA CAUSE MORE ACCIDENTS.
THE SPEEDS THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER, THOSE ARE ALL AVAILABLE.
THE ACCIDENT RATE I'M SHOWING YOU IS NOT FROM VDOT, IT'S FROM OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
THIS IS DATA THEY'VE BEEN COLLECTING FOR YEARS.
THIS CAN BE INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED.
THERE'S A WHOLE SERIES OF OTHER ISSUES I WANT TO GET IN.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE MY TIME STANDS RIGHT NOW.
DO I HAVE A MOMENT? YEAH, ONE MINUTE.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL USE IT CUZ YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW ME.
THE THE PREDOMINANT CONCERN OF OUR GOVERNANCE IS SAFETY.
THE PREDOMINANT CONCERN OF OUR GOVERNANCE IS WATCHING OVER THE CONSTITUTION.
THOSE ARE THE TWO ITEMS I HAVE BROUGHT UP.
WE, AS ANDREW SAID, WE WENT WITH TWO V.V.IS NOT RECEPTIVE TO ANYTHING.
AND IN THE WORDS OF THE ENGINEER, IT'S A MY JUDGMENT.
THERE'S NO ANALYSIS, THERE'S NOTHING OTHER THAN A JUDGMENT FROM AN ENGINEER THAT SITS IN AN OFFICE.
AND THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE TO ME.
AND I THINK THERE'S OTHER ASPECTS.
I WAS JUST GOING DOWN THE ROAD YESTERDAY, DOOR TO DOOR ON FAIR GROUND ROAD.
BUT FAIR GROUND ROAD IS A VERY DANGEROUS ROAD.
IT'S NOT BUILT LIKE LET'S SAY BROAD STREET ROAD.
IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BUILD OUT.
UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S AN OLD COUNTRY, RURAL ROAD.
ONE CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THIS WILL INCREASE THE ENHANCEMENT OF THE ROAD, AT LEAST IN THE AREA WHERE IT IS.
I CAN'T DENY THAT IT WILL DO THAT, BUT IT ALSO PUT MORE CARS ON THE ROAD IN ADDITION TO THE ROAD.
UH, THE CARS THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED, MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF BOARD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
MY ADDRESS IS 1930 SOLDIERS LODGE ROAD.
AND I'LL MAKE A POINT OF THAT OF, UM, UH, SPECIFYING ITS SOLDIERS LODGE ROAD ON THE BACK BECAUSE WE COULD NOT PUT OUR ADDRESS ON FAIRGROUNDS ROAD BECAUSE IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS TO COME AND GO TO PEOPLE IDENTIFY.
AND THIS IS ALMOST 30 YEARS, IT'S JUST GOTTEN WORSE.
A LOT OF THE CONCERN IS ABOUT THE SAFETY OF FAIRGROUNDS ROAD AND THE SPEED.
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LOVE TO SEE THE WHOLE THING 45, BUT THAT'S A DOT ISSUE.MY CONCERN IS EVEN THOUGH THE STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED SHOW THAT THE LEVEL OF MAIDEN'S ROAD, THE LEVEL OF FAIRGROUNDS ROAD MEET, ALL THE STATISTICS, ANYBODY WHO IS AN OWNER ALONG FAIRGROUNDS ROAD, ANYBODY WHO IS A RESIDENT OF FAIRGROUNDS ROAD THAT USE THESE ROADS NOTES, IT'S DANGEROUS.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR EVERYTHING TO BE FAIR ALONG THE WAY, OTHER SUBDIVISIONS ALONG FAIRGROUNDS ROAD HAVE MADE CONTRIBUTIONS TO FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS OF BROAD AND FAIRGROUNDS OF MAIDENS AND FAIRGROUNDS.
BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THEY MEET THE, THE REQUIREMENTS NOW WE KNOW THAT IT'S DANGEROUS.
YOU TAKE YOUR LIFE IN YOUR HANDS WHEN YOU TRY TO GO ANY DIRECTION ON, ON MAIDENS ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE.
BUT THOSE ROADS NEED TO BE DONE.
IF WE WAIT FOR VIDO TO DO IT, IT MAY NEVER HAPPEN.
SO SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE AND FUNDS HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE BY OTHER DEVELOPERS THAT SIT IN YOUR TREASURY ALLOCATED TO THOSE SPECIFIC SUB, THOSE SPECIFIC INTERSECTIONS.
AND I'M WONDERING WHY THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT EVERYBODY TENDS TO AGREE WHO LIVES IN GIN IS GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER IMPACT.
WHY IS NOTHING BEING REQUESTED OF THIS DEVELOPER TO MAKE FUTURE OR TO CONTRIBUTE TO FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS OF THOSE INTERSECTIONS? THANK YOU.
I RESIDE AT 2070, UM, MAIDEN'S ROAD AND OUR PROPERTY BUTTS UP TO THE NORTH END OF THE PROPOSED, UM, PROPERTY.
AND I HAVE, UM, A COPY OF THIS PETITION FOR LISA AND I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, I SPOKE AT THE LAST MEETING ON THE ISSUE OF THE CHILDCARE AND THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COUNTY.
UM, AND IT WAS A POINT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE END ABOUT HOW WELL WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO COME TO THE COUNTY TO GET MORE SERVICES.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T HAVE SERVICES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE ALREADY HERE IN THE COUNTY.
CHILDCARE'S ONE OF 'EM, WE HAVE, I THINK I HAD THE NUMBERS AT THE LAST MEETING AND IT WAS 1,050 CHILDREN UNDER FIVE.
AND WE HAVE ONE DAYCARE AND I THINK THEY HAVE PROBABLY LIKE IN THE BABY CLASSROOM, 10 BABIES.
SO WE'RE, WE HAVE NO CHILDCARE FOR BABIES AND IT HAS OVER A YEAR.
SO I HAVE NO CHILDCARE FOR MY CHILD NOW I'M OFF MATERNITY LEAVE.
SO, AND WE JUST KEEP PUTTING MORE NEIGHBORHOODS, MORE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND WE DON'T HAVE BASIC SERVICES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE ALREADY HERE.
SO NOT JUST THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT FUTURE NEIGHBORHOODS ASKED THAT WE TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE PUT SOME PLANNING IN THE VILLAGE.
UM, I THINK MR. CASH, UM, SAID, MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE ONE IN THE VILLAGE PLANNING, WHICH IS GREAT TO HEAR.
UM, AND I ALSO SHARE ALL THE SAME TRAFFIC CONCERNS FOR FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.
I PERSONALLY WAS RAN OFF OF FAIRGROUNDS ROAD ONE DAY TRAVELING TO FOOD LION INTO A NEIGHBOR'S YARD.
UM, LUCKILY NOTHING, I WAS OKAY, BUT I DID TEAR UP A NEIGHBOR'S YARD.
BUT ANYWAYS, SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO PUMP THE BRAKES AND, AND JUST MAYBE SLOW DOWN THAT THAT PROPERTY HAS BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
AND I UNDERSTAND TIME IS MONEY, BUT THERE IS A LOT GOING ON AND, UH, I HAVE A CONCERN HAVING SAT THROUGH SOME OF THE, NOT SOME OF ALL OF THE, UH, VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT, UH, PRESENTATIONS THAT ARE BEING DONE THAT WE COULD BE GETTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
I, I, I HAVE A SENSE THAT WE'RE BEING A LITTLE REACTIVE INSTEAD OF PROACTIVE.
IT WAS MENTIONED, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUTURISTIC, WAS SAYING THIS WOULD BE LOW DENSITY TWO ACRES PER LOT.
AND THIS IS UNUSUAL WHERE IT STARTED OUT LOWER DENSITY AND HAS NOW GOTTEN HIGHER DENSITY.
UM, I HAVE, I'LL SAY FOND RECALL OF, OF TUCKAHOE BRIDGE WHERE THERE HAD BEEN HIGH DENSITY THAT WENT DOWN TO LOW DENSITY BECAUSE IT WAS TRANSITIONAL IN THAT IT WAS MOVING FROM THE CORE OF A VILLAGE TO A MORE RURAL AREA.
AND I SEE SORT OF A REVERSE HERE, WHERE
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WE'RE GOING FROM THE CORE AND THEN GOING TO HIGHER DENSITY.SO I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THIS PLAN IS, IS WELL THOUGHT OUT, IT'S JUST NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
AND THAT, UH, YOU WOULD EITHER DEFER OR DENY, UH, AND, AND JUST PUMP THE BRAKES A LITTLE BIT.
IT, THERE'S ONLY SO FAST THAT AS GOOD AS THIS COUNTY IS THAT SO FAST WE CAN RUN AND, AND REALLY DO IT ALL TO THE LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE THAT I, I THINK YOU ALL ASPIRE TO.
SO I HOPE YOU'LL SAY NO OR DEFER.
THANK YOU MR. SANDRA WARWICK, 360 7 SWINBURN ROAD MANNEQUIN SAB.
UM, I BELIEVE THE LOCATION OF THE STUB ROAD BEING, UM, MANDATED BY VDOT IS AN USURPATION OF YOUR, UH, AUTHORITY OVER LAND USE.
YOU AND STAFF ARE WORKING VERY, VERY HARD ON THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE PLAN.
UM, THIS TO CONCENTRATE GROWTH INSIDE THE VILLAGE, THE STUB ROAD LEADING OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE BASICALLY SUGGESTS AND SAYS, OKAY, LET'S KEEP GOING.
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND ALSO, THIS IS A VERY MINOR THING, THE NAME OF THE THING VILLAGE INSIDE A VILLAGE.
EVERYBODY'S STILL DEALING WITH ALL THE THINGS NAMED MANNEQUIN AND THE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DO IT.
BOARD MEMBERS, UH, WILLIAM CLEMENTS, 24 5 3 FAIRGROUND ROAD.
I WASN'T INTENDING TO SPEAK, BUT FIGURED I WOULD SINCE I DO LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY.
UM, AND THE LADY WHO RAN OFF THE ROAD, THAT WAS MY YARD WHERE THAT HAPPENED.
SO, AND THE, AND I'M NOT FROM GUC LYNN, SO I DON'T KNOW ANYONE.
I DON'T KNOW WHO I WOULD MAKE MATT OR NOT, BUT, UM, I MOVED HERE FROM OUTSIDE FOR THE REASON OF BEING RURAL, BEING A LITTLE REMOVED, HAVING ROOM TO BREATHE.
THE TWO YEARS THAT WE'VE LIVED THERE, WE'VE HAD FOUR TO FIVE, IF, IF NOT MORE PEOPLE RUN INTO OUR GUARDRAIL THAT'S RIGHT AT THE CORNER OF OUR PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEN ALSO I'VE HEARD IT MENTION THAT YES, THEY'RE PLANNING TO GIVE US, TO GIVE THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY IN THAT ROAD EXPANSION FOR A COUPLE OF HUNDRED FEET.
BUT IN MY OPINION, THAT'S GONNA CREATE NOTHING BUT MORE PROBLEMS. BECAUSE IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FAIR GROUND ROAD RIGHT THERE, WHERE WE LIVE, IT GOES THROUGH A DOTTED PASSING LINE AND THE SPEED LIMIT DROPS FROM 55 TO 45.
AND I'VE OFFERED WONDER, I'VE OFTEN WONDERED WHO THOUGHT OF THAT BRILLIANT IDEA AS PEOPLE GO FLYING BY AND CAUSE ACCIDENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE RIGHT IN THAT AREA.
SO I WOULD, AGAIN, PLEASE ASK AND ECHO THE VOICE OF OTHERS TO PLEASE DENY THIS, UH, VOTE.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MADAME CLERK, MADAM ATTORNEY.
MY WIFE AND I RESIDE AT 1892 FAIRGROUND ROAD.
I AM NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT AND I AM NOT AGAINST SUPPLYING HOUSING, BE IT AFFORDABLE OR OTHERWISE.
I'M NEITHER A DEVELOPER NOR PLANNER.
THIS PROJECT MAY BE VERY WELL THOUGHT THROUGH AND VERY WELL DESIGNED.
I AM NOT QUALIFIED TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THE PROJECT IS SIMPLY PROPOSED FOR THE WRONG PLACE WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE APPLICANT AND TO HIS REPRESENTATIVE.
AND I, AND I DO MEAN THAT I HAVE NO, NO ILL FEELING TOWARD THE APPLICANT.
IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION THEY GAVE THIS EVENING.
SO I SAY WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, BECAUSE I DON'T CARE ABOUT MATHEMATICALLY CALCULATED TRAFFIC THRESHOLDS.
I LIVE OFF FAIR GROUND ROAD AND I MADE THIS OFFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION LAST MONTH.
THEY'LL MAKE IT AGAIN, COME TO MY DRIVE WHERE IT MEETS FAIR GROUND ROAD.
WE'LL MEET THERE IN THE MORNING.
WE'LL MEET THERE IN THE EVENING.
IT'LL TAKE YOU TWO MINUTES, PROBABLY LESS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT ROAD NEEDS ANOTHER 40 HOUSEHOLDS WORTH OF TRAFFIC EVERY DAY.
THIS IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF CONGESTION, IS MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
I GOT EMOTIONAL JUST LISTENING TO THE WOMAN TALK ABOUT HER HEAD ON CRASH.
I MEAN, I'VE SEEN AT LEAST FOUR MAJOR ACCIDENTS THERE IN THE EVENING WHILE IT'S DARK OUT.
COMING BACK FROM FOOD LINE, THIS COUNTY HAS A PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A REASON TO REVIEW THE TECHNICAL MERITS OF PROJECTS, TO HEAR CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC TO DETERMINE IF PROJECTS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING IN THE COUNTY.
AND ULTIMATELY TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION TO THIS FULL BOARD PLANNING COMMISSION.
MEMBERS AND STAFF HAVE DONE THEIR JOB OVER MANY MONTHS.
THEY HAVE TAKEN CAREFUL CONSIDERATION AND RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THIS RESOUNDING REQUEST.
I SIMPLY ASK THAT YOU HEAR THE ADVICE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, LISTEN TO THE CONCERNS OF ALL THESE CONSTITUENTS AND THIS, AND DENY THE ZONING REQUEST.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST,
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ATTORNEY AND MR. CARPENTER.I LIVE ON 2245 CAMELBACK ROAD.
UM, I'VE STARTED MY CAREER HERE IN GOLAND COUNTY.
I'VE BEEN A LONG TIME, A MEMBER IN 1978 AND I BECAME A DEPUTY SHERIFF IN THIS COUNTY.
IT WAS FIVE OF US THAT WORKED THIS WHOLE COUNTY, 300 SQUARE MILE COUNTY.
IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE TO FIGHT AND YOU DIDN'T LIKE TO DRIVE CARS FAST, IT WASN'T THE JOB FOR YOU.
I ALSO WAS ON THE, AT 17 YEARS OF AGE ON THE FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WAS ALL VOLUNTEER AND WE HAD TO WORK AND DO EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTY.
WE DON'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF HAVING BIG FIRE TRUCKS LIKE WE DO NOW AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND REPEAT EVERYTHING EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID, CUZ ALL THESE COMMENTS ARE WHAT I FEEL.
I'M JUST ASKING YOU, YOU ARE ELECTRIC OFFICIALS.
YOU'RE ENTRUSTED IN THE COUNTY TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS OF THIS COUNTY AND ALL, ALL I'M ASKING YOU TO DO IS SLOW DOWN.
I WAS GONNA HAVE THE, THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE FAIRGROUND ROAD IS A DANGEROUS ROAD.
I TRAVELED AT TWO OR THREE TIMES A DAY.
AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, SOMEBODY JUST COME UP THERE AND JUST SIT SOMEWHERE IN THE DAYTIME.
I GO TO THE Y IN THE MORNINGS.
I'M, I'M AT THE Y AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
IT'S NOT THAT BAD GOING SIX O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, BUT WHEN I COME BACK EVERY AT 7 30, 8 O'CLOCK, IT TAKES ME A LITTLE WHILE TO GET ON THE FAIRGROUNDS.
ALL I'M ASKING, ALL I'M ASKING IS PEOPLE, YOU HAVE A BIG RESPONSIBILITY, MR. BROWN, THE TRUET ORGANIZATION.
I KNOW THE TRUED FAMILY ALL MY LIFE.
THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE AND I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST THEY CAN.
BUT YOU HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION.
YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION.
THEY DENIED THIS AND I ASKED YOU TO GO UPON THEIR ATION OF THIS.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? WE'RE GONNA ALL RIGHT.
I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THANK YOU FOR MOVING THAT ALONG, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE COMMENTS.
BOARD, UM, UM, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND ADDRESS ANYTHING OR YOU DON'T.
UH, I, I WOULD JUST TOUCH ON A COUPLE THINGS.
UM, SO THE STUB ROAD, WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT.
I WAS GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH VDOT TODAY AGAIN ON THE STUB ROAD.
UH, WE PITCHED TO THEM ABOUT STUBBORN IT TO THE WEST AND THAT BEING PART OF THE VILLAGE AND NOT STUBBORN IT OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE.
UH, AT FIRST I THOUGHT MAYBE WE GRAINED SOME TRACTION WITH HIM AND HE WAS GONNA, YOU KNOW, COME OUR WAY WITH IT.
BUT HE SENT US AN EMAIL TODAY THAT HE TALKED TO SOME OF HIS, YOU KNOW, BOSSES OR HIGHER UPS AND THEY STILL DON'T LIKE THAT, UH, CONNECTION CUZ THEY'RE MULTIPLE PARCELS WITH MULTIPLE OWNERS AND THEY THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A, A, A HARD SELL.
HE DID PUT IN THERE THAT THE BOARD, IF THE BOARD DEEMS THAT, THAT IS, THOSE LAND USES AREN'T ACCEPTABLE WITH A COMP PLAN, THAT IT MAY BE SUFFICIENT JUSTIFICATION FOR A WAIVER.
SO MAYBE AS WE GO FORWARD, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET THE BOARD TO, UH, STATE THAT OR AGREE TO THAT, I'M HAPPY TO SEND THIS EMAIL FROM VDOT, UM, THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY GET A WAIVER IN PLACE AND GET THAT ROAD STUBBED BACK TOWARDS THE VILLAGE, WHICH IS WHAT WE HAD PROPOSED AT ONE TIME.
WHICH, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STILL A SUBSTANTIAL PIECE OF LAND BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY IN HIDDEN ROCK PARK.
THE ISSUE THAT THEY HAVE HAD IS THAT THE LANDFILL IS THERE AND IT WOULD NEVER CONNECT BACK TO HIDDEN ROCK LANE, BUT THERE'S ROOM FOR ANOTHER ROAD BETWEEN THERE OR THERE'S STILL, YOU KNOW, QUITE A BIT OF PROPERTY IN THERE THAT IS IN THE VILLAGE THAT MAY BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT.
UH, THE OTHER THING I HEARD A BUNCH IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I KNOW Y'ALL HEARD THAT A MILLION TIMES.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ANYWHERE.
UM, I THOUGHT REED MARSH WAS GONNA BE FOUR OR $500,000.
THAT'S WHERE WE THOUGHT IT WOULD SELL.
UH, AND IT, IT, YOU KNOW, BOONE WAS SELLING FROM SEVEN TO EIGHT AND NOW I THINK THEY'RE BACK AROUND SIX.
BUT THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, GOING OFF THE MARKET AND, UH, PRICE INCREASES AND, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU NEED DENSITY.
AND IF I WERE STANDING HERE PRESENTING A COUPLE HUNDRED TOWNHOUSES FOR THAT PROPERTY, I'M SURE I'D GET THROWN OUTTA THE COUNTY.
BUT IF WE'RE GONNA GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE DENSITY AND THE DENSITY HAS TO BE WHERE THERE ARE INFRASTRUCTURE AND UTILITIES.
AND I KNOW THAT'S PROBABLY IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE VILLAGE STUDY AND PLAN.
AND WHERE DOES THAT GO? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW YOU EVEN GET THERE.
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EVERYWHERE.UM, AND YOU KNOW, I, WE, WE HEAR THE, I HEAR THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE COMMENTS ABOUT FAIR GROUND ROAD.
WE WILL BE STRAIGHTENING THAT CURVE A LITTLE BIT IN THAT AREA.
WE'RE GIVING SHOULDER AND DITCH AND MORE SITE DISTANCE AND VISIBILITY AND, YOU KNOW, AS THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE IMPROVED THE ROAD AND LANES IN AND, AND BREEZE HILL, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY IMPROVEMENTS ON FAIRGROUND ROAD SINCE I CAN NEVER REMEMBER, HAVE BEEN SOME DEVELOPMENT COMING ALONG AND WIDENING AND IMPROVING THE ROAD.
SO AGAIN, THIS WILL IMPROVE THE, THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE.
UM, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT, THAT YOU HAVE BOARD ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS END? ALL RIGHT.
BOARD, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE, MR. KINS? THANK YOU.
UM, COULD WE HEAR FOR MR. CASH REAL QUICKLY? JUST A COUPLE, COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR HIM AND THEN I'LL, THEN I'LL MAKE SOME COMMENTS.
THIS AGAIN MIGHT BE IN THE CATEGORY OF JUST EDUCATING ME A LITTLE BIT, BUT, OKAY.
UM, I THINK THERE'S A, UH, I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE GOING BACK TO 2015 IN THAT TIME PERIOD, BUT I DID, UH, LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN FOR THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE.
MR. BROWNING POINTED OUT SWANS IN MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE DENSE, BUT I MEAN, THIS, THIS DOESN'T COMPLY, THIS PROPOSAL DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, SIMILAR TO WHAT RURAL HILL AND, UM, REEDS MAR REED MARSH.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK YOU, IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID THIS DIDN'T CON IT DIDN'T CONTEMPLATE WATER AND SEWER BEING IN PLACE, BUT THE PLAN DOES SAY FOR WATER AND SEWER'S IN PLA IS IN PLACE, INFRASTRUCTURE'S IN PLACE, THEN IT JUSTIFIES MAKING THE DENSITY HIGHER.
THERE WAS THE EXPECTATION WITH THE PLAN THAT SHOULD, UM, UTILITIES BE PROVIDED IN THAT CASE, THE CAPACITY FOR SEWER WAS NOT AVAILABLE, UM, AT THE TIME OF THE PLAN AT THE TIME.
UM, AND THAT WAS, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WAS PART OF DISCUSSION AS WELL WITH THE REED MARSH AND, UM, THE OTHER, UH, RURAL HILL CASES AS WELL.
UM, AND AS YOU REFERENCE THE LEANS IN IT WITH A DIFFERENT, IT WAS, UM, VERY UNIQUE, UH, FLEX RESIDE, UH, FLEXIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL.
SO THAT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY CAPABLE FOR A LOT HIGHER DENSITY THAN WAS PROVIDED.
YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE INVOLVED WITH OUR, UH, VILLAGE PLANNING, RIGHT? I MEAN, YES, IT'S, WE'RE, LOOK, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CURRENT COMP PLAN MAP, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, LOW DENSITY, I DON'T EVEN SEE ANY MEDIUM DENSITY IN THE VILLAGE.
NOW DO YOU SEE THAT FLEXIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL? MM-HMM.
UM, THE LAST MAP WE SAW AND WAS PRESENTED AT THE TIME, WE RECOGNIZE THAT, THAT GENERALLY THE LAND USE AS FAR AS GENERAL LAND USE, SORT OF RESIDENTIAL, INSTITUTIONAL, UM, COMMERCIAL, WERE SORT OF THERE.
UM, THE DISCUSSION AND STUDY THAT'S STILL BEING, UM, ONGOING, UH, IS REALLY WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS MEAN NOW IN A VILLAGE SETTING? UM, RECOGNITION THAT, UM, WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT WORLD AS FAR AS, UM, SEWER AND WATER CAPACITY.
UM, OTHER NEEDS OF SERVICES, UM, FOR THE COUNTY IS, UM, WHAT ARE THOSE DENSITY LEVELS THAT ARISE OUT OF THAT.
NOW THE ULTIMATE RECOMMENDATION HAS NOT BEEN BROUGHT FORWARD, UM, FROM THE CONSULTANT.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL BE SHARING WITH THE COMMUNITY OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE WORKS NOW AS WE SPEAK.
UM, ARE THERE SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS STILL PLANNED? UM, WELL WE STILL, WE ARE STILL WORKING THAT OUT.
UM, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER, UM, I BELIEVE ONE MORE MEETING, UH, BRINGING IT BACK AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A MEETING OF A JOINT MEETING WITH THE COMMISSION AND THE BOARD, UM, AND THEN COMMISSION AND THEN BOARD.
UM, WE WERE, UH, I THINK THAT THE BOARD IS AGREED TO, WE'RE GONNA BE EXTENDING THE TIMELINE.
UM, ORIGINALLY IT WOULD BE PROBABLY WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WE WERE GONNA BE, UH, THE CONSULTANT WAS GONNA BE BRINGING FORWARD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.
THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING OUT, UM, FOR THAT.
AND OUR ANTICIPATION IS WHEN WE GET THOSE, WE PUT 'EM OUT ONLINE SO PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ABSORB THEM, SEE REALLY WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE BEFORE WE BRING IT TO A MORE PUBLIC FORUM.
WHAT ELSE? THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR, FOR YOU.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS UNLESS THERE'S, UNLESS SOMEBODY HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. MR. PETERSON.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THIS OR NOT.
I'VE HEARD THIS STUB ROAD IS AN ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S A REQUIREMENT IN ORDER FOR VDA TO ACCEPT THE ROADS INTO THEIR SYSTEM.
THAT IT'S NOT AN ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENTS REQUIREMENT TO BE ACCEPTED INTO THEIR SYSTEM.
SO, UM, IT'S, UM, ACTUALLY IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE AND THEN IT'S, UM, SSRS IT IS, UM, REQUIREMENT IF THEY GO INTO THE PUBLIC SYSTEM, THEY NEED TO HAVE THE SECOND CONNECTION.
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SO THE ROADS WERE PRIVATE, THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO DO A STUB.THANK, UH, NOT SO ONE I WAS TRYING TO AVOID.
SO PLEASE, UH, IF YOU WOULD, AND WE MAY NOT HAVE AN EXACT TIME IN MS. SHERRY MAY KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE, THE VILLAGE STUDY WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR, AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA PULL IT FORWARD A LITTLE BIT, PUSH IT FORWARD, RIGHT? PUSH FORWARD A FEW MONTHS, UM, MAYBE FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME, UM, OPTIMISTICALLY, I THINK FEBRUARY WOULD BE, UM, THE MOST REALISTIC TIMELINE RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN THE SECOND PART IS THE, UH, FAIRGROUND CORRIDOR STUDY.
THAT'S, I THINK WE HEARD TODAY'S GETTING READY TO START GETTING READY TO START.
SO DO WE KNOW THAT'S ABOUT A TWO MONTH? I THINK THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE TIME MAY BE ABLE TO CONFIRM WAS ABOUT A FOUR MONTH TIMELINE.
ONCE, ONCE IT GETS STARTED, I KNOW PART OF IT STILL MORE IN THE FORMULATION STAGE.
I HAVEN'T HEARD EXACTLY WHEN IT'S GONNA KICK OFF.
UM, BUT ABOUT FOUR MONTHS OPTIMISTICALLY.
SOUNDS LIKE WE'D BE GETTING THE SAME INFORMATION ABOUT THE SAME TIME.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING FOR GOOD OR FOR BAD.
I THINK WE GET IT TO THE CHASE.
CAN YOU OR, OR MR. COLEMAN ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, THAT QUARTER STUDY FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT'S GOING ON? UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND TOM CAN JUMP UP IF I SOUND LIKE I'M GOING WRONG AT THIS.
IT'S REALLY TO, UM, LOOK AT OVER ALL THE, THE CORRIDOR AS A WHOLE, UM, TO REALLY LOOK FOR PROBLEM SPOTS THAT IT HAS, UM, TO MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENTS, WHETHER SHORTER, LONG TERM.
ULTIMATELY, IT COULD LEAD THINGS SUCH AS WHAT WE THINK THE ULTIMATE DESIGN IS FOR A FAIRGROUND ROAD.
UM, WE DO CALL FOR IT TO BE A FOUR-LANE ARTERIAL.
YEAH, WE LOOKING AT DIVIDE IT, DOES IT HAVE SIDEWALKS? DO YOU HAVE PEDESTRIAN PATH ALONG THE SIDE? UM, SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF A INCLUSIVE, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CAPACITY.
I THINK A LOT OF IT IS ULTIMATELY FOR DESIGN AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT AREA.
AM I CORRECT? AND TYPICALLY WITH VDOT, IN YOUR EXPERIENCE, MR. CASH, BEFORE ANY PROJECT GETS APPROVED, WE KNOW, UM, ON, ON SOME CITIZENS MAY NOT BE AWARE, BUT BDOS NEVER PROACTIVE, SO THEY'RE REACTIVE AND THEY TYPICALLY REQUIRE STUDIES BE COMPLETED.
SO THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP US COME UP WITH A LONG TERM SOLUTION, IF YOU WOULD, FOR FAIRGROUNDS.
AND IT, YOU KNOW, GIVES US ABILITY TO START ASKING FOR FUNDING OR NURSING SEEKING IMPROVEMENTS, UM, BASED UPON THAT PLAN.
SO, UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY A BENEFIT THAT, UM, GLAD IT'S COME UP.
WE WOULD'VE NEEDED IT EVENTUALLY.
AND IT'S GOOD THAT IT'S, UM, MOVING FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU MR. CASH, MR. CHAIRMAN.
MR. M I'M GONNA JUST GO A LITTLE FOLLOW THAT A LITTLE, LITTLE SIDE PATH ON THIS.
UM, THIS FAIRGROUND, THIS FAIRGROUND ROAD CORRIDOR STUDY IS CRITICAL IN MY VIEW.
AND I, UM, MS. LASETTE AND I SAT IN ON A TRANSPORTATION MEETING WITH FOUR OR FIVE FEET OUT OFFICIALS, WENT ABOUT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS AGO.
AND VDOT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS BOARD, I DON'T, I DON'T TRY NOT SPEAK FOR THE BOARD, BUT I JUST SAY, WHAT, WHAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS BOARD? BECAUSE I, I DRIVE THAT ROAD AT LEAST TWICE, SOMETIMES FOUR AND SIX TIMES A DAY.
AND, AND IT'S, THE VILLAGE IS OUR AREA THAT'S GONNA GROW.
THE ROAD IS A KEY FEEDER TO THE VILLAGE.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT, THERE WERE SOME EYE ROLLS BEHIND YOU WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PLANT AS A FOUR LANE ROAD.
THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY.
WE, WE KNOW THAT, BUT VDOT I'M HOPEFUL TO THEIR CREDIT, THEY WERE, BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT THIS STUDY TO COME OUT AND JUST BE A PIECE OF PAPER THAT IS OF NO VALUE IN SIX MONTHS.
SO THIS BOARD HAS GOTTEN MORE ENGAGED IN TRANSPORTATION THAN I EVER THOUGHT I WOULD BE WHEN I GOT INVOLVED ON THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
BUT TRANSPORTATION FUNDING HAS CHANGED.
WE HAVE THE CVT A, UM, THERE'S A LOT, A LOT MORE GOING ON.
AND VDOT TOLD US THAT THEY VERY MUCH WANT OUR INPUT AND THEY NEED OUR INPUT TO MAKE THIS STUDY WORTHWHILE.
AND THAT INPUT IS INPUT INCLUDES OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHAT WE HAVE IN THE WORKS.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN GET THE DATA FROM OUR VILLAGE STUDY AND PUSH THAT ONTO VDOT.
AND I, I'VE TOLD MR. CARPENTER, I'VE TOLD YOU, I'VE TOLD STAFF, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DO ALL WE CAN FROM A COUNTY PERSPECTIVE TO GET ALL THE INFORMATION TO VIDOT THAT WE CAN TO GET INPUT.
I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT SAFETY THINGS.
YOU, YOU GUYS KNOW, YOU RIDE, THERE'S SOME PLACES WHERE THERE'S GUARDRAILS AND THERE'S NOT GUARD RAILS, THERE'S BIG DROPS, THERE'S A LOT OF DANGEROUS SPOTS ALONG THE WAY.
IN FACT, THE SAFEST PLACES ARE WHERE NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE COME UP IN FRONT OF BREEZE HILL.
FEELS LIKE THAT'S SAFER THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE ANOTHER LANE THAT'S, IT'S STILL NOT FOUR LANES, BUT IT FEELS SAFER THAN SOME
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OF THOSE TYPE PLACES.O ON BOTH SIDES OF, OF THE INTERSECTION WITH MAIDENS.
SO ANYWAY, I, I WOULD JUST OFFER THIS BOARD IS DOING A LOT FOCUSED ON TRANSPORTATION.
UM, THE CORRIDOR STUDY IS AN INTEGRAL PART THAT WE ARE FULLY ENGAGED IN.
IS IT GONNA BE FIXED OVERNIGHT? NO, BUT I, I, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET SOME DELIVERABLES THAT HERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO THAT'S AFFORDABLE IN SIX MONTHS.
HERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN A YEAR, AND THEN LOOKING OUT, WE'LL SEE, OKAY, YOU KNOW, SOME ACQUISITION OF LAND, SOME SIGNIFICANT WORK WHERE, WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE WIDENED.
SO THAT'S ALL I HAD FOR, FOR MR. CASH, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND I'LL GO AHEAD AND JUST, WELL, I, I ECHO MR. SPOON.
I THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR, UM, THE PLEASANT EXCHANGE AND THE INPUT, UM, MR. LYLE AND MR. PARISH, THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE THAT WAS, THAT'S BEEN ON MY MIND ABOUT THIS APPLICATION FOR A WHILE.
THAT WE, WE, WE HAVE THE, THE CART IN FRONT OF, IN FRONT OF THE HORSE IN MY VIEW.
AND I SAID AT THE TIME, THE CART GOT IN FRONT OF THE HORSE ON RURAL HILL AND REED MARSH AS WELL.
THE DIFFERENCE TO ME THOUGH IS, AND I DON'T LIKE IT.
I MEAN, I REALLY WOULD'VE, I WAS PUSHING BACK TWO YEARS AGO, LET'S GET THIS VILLAGE STUDY GOING.
LET'S GET, SO I, FOR ONE, REPRESENTING THIS AREA, I'M SUPER THRILLED ABOUT THIS VILLAGE STUDY.
AND I WOULD JUST IMPLORE ALL EVERYBODY HERE AND TELL YOUR NEIGHBORS, PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS, I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS GONNA COME OUT TO OPPOSE TO GENERALLY, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING IN THEIR, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STREET, DOWN THE STREET NEAR THEM.
BUT THIS VILLAGE STUDY, AND I'M TALKING PRIMARILY THE COURTHOUSE, I'LL MENTION CENTERVILLE IN A SECOND, BUT WE'RE HERE IN THE COURTHOUSE TALKING ABOUT THE COURTHOUSE.
THIS VILLAGE STUDY IS REALLY, IF WE'RE GONNA GROW GRACEFULLY AS WE TALK ABOUT, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NICE VILLAGE, THEN DEVELOPMENTS NEED TO COME IN, OR, OR THIS BOARD SHOULD BE LOOKING FAVORABLY ON DEVELOPMENTS AND INITIATIVES THAT ARE COMING IN THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH A PLAN.
AND THAT PLAN NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED BY THE COMMUNITY.
SO I I I WANT TO HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING.
WE'VE HAD A FEW, WE NEED ANOTHER ONE.
AND I'M TELLING MR. CARPENTER AND OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF, WE KNOW FOR LOTS OF REASONS, WE NEED TO PUSH THIS OUT BECAUSE, AGAIN, I'M GETTING A LITTLE INTO THE WEEDS, BUT WE HAD AN OPI OFFICE OF INTERMODAL PLANNING AND SOMETHING, IT'S, IT'S A DIVISION OF VI D I, THEY DID A, UM, WASN'T COUNTY MONEY, COUNTY MONEY'S PAYING FOR THIS VILLAGE STUDY.
STATE MONEY PAID FOR THIS OPI STUDY.
AND THE STUDY WAS TO LOOK AT THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE AND LOOK AT PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE PATHS.
WELL, THE RESULT WAS WOEFULLY DISAPPOINTING.
WE THOUGHT THAT OPI STUDY, WHICH WAS HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME, THAT DATA WOULD FEED INTO THE VILLAGE STUDY.
AND SO WE COULD TAKE THE VILLAGE STUDY, FOCUS ON LAND USE AND OVERLAY A VISION FOR WALKABILITY, BIKE PATHS, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE ARE HEARING THAT PEOPLE EXPECT IN, IN A VILLAGE.
WELL, OPI JUST GAVE US NOTHING.
SO WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT OUR CONSULTANTS TO ENHANCE.
AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING THEM SOME MORE REQUESTS LIKE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T GET MUCH FROM HERE.
SO CAN YOU LOOK AT CENTERVILLE? MOST PEOPLE HERE ARE NOT FOCUSED ON CENTERVILLE, BUT I THINK WE ARE MOVING AWAY FROM JUST EVEN CALLING IT A VILLAGE.
CENTERVILLE IS VERY DIFFERENT.
YOU GOT TWO 50 GOING THROUGH HERE.
BUT GIAN COURTHOUSE, THIS IS, THIS IS KIND OF A BLANK SLATE FOR US TO CREATE A NICE VILLAGE.
SO I, BACK TO THIS APPLICATION, I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT.
LET'S GET GOOD WAYS IN THE CORRIDOR STUDY.
LET'S LOOK AT THIS VILLAGE STUDY.
WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE LINES OF THE BOUNDARIES OF THE VILLAGE STUDY.
I PERSONALLY THINK IT GOES A LITTLE TOO FAR TO THE WEST, ALL THE WAY TO JACKSON SHOP.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT WHAT JOHN LUMPKINS WANTS.
IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
SO PLEASE COME TO THESE MEETINGS.
I'M GOING TO PUSH TO HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING.
PLEASE ATTEND UP, ASK, YOU KNOW, I, I TELL MY FRIENDS AND OTHERS THAT JUST LIVE OUT IN GEORGE'S TAVERN AND OTHER PLACES, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
SO PLEASE COME AND PARTICIPATE BECAUSE I TELL YOU, THE VILLAGE PLAN CALLS FOR THINGS.
AND MS. HOBBS, IF SHE'S STILL HERE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AFFORDABLE, AFFORD, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHAT, HOWEVER YOU DEFINE THAT.
BUT DENSITY IS, IS THERE'S NO GETTING AROUND DENSITY IS THE PATH TO MORE AFFORDABILITY.
SO AS WE GET TO THE CENTER, SOME OF THE PLANS THAT THE INITIAL PLANS WE'RE LOOKING AT AREN'T TALKING ABOUT MORE DENSITY, RIGHT? CLOSE TO WHERE WE ARE HERE, YOU KNOW, BEHIND, BEHIND THE FOOD LINE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THIS WHOLE VILLAGE PLAN IS A HEAVIER HAND
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THAN I THINK TRADITIONALLY MR. PARIS WAS TALKING ABOUT THE DAYS FIVE DEPUTIES PATROLLING THE COUNTY.WE ARE MOVING, THIS IS JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION, BUT WE'RE MOVING PAST THE STAGE WHERE EVERY LITTLE PROJECT IS GONNA BE LOOKING AT, AT ITS OWN AND PEOPLE CAN COME OUT.
IT'S LIKE, I DON'T WANT THAT HERE.
THAT TENDS TO BE THE RURAL, RURAL COUNTIES.
LIKE I JUST DON'T WANT THAT HERE.
BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATING A VILLAGE THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A PLAN.
SO IF SOMETHING COMES FORWARD THAT FITS THE VILLAGE PLAN, THIS BOARD SHOULD BE LOOKING FAVORABLY AT IT.
SO WHETHER THIS PARTICULAR PLAN, THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL BEFORE US TONIGHT WILL FIT THE VILLAGE PLAN.
RIGHT NOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND FOR THAT REASON, I'M NOT READY TO APPROVE IT.
TRANS TRAFFIC IS ANOTHER PROBLEM.
MR. SLOAN, YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOU LOOKED AT THAT MAP AND YOU SAID YOU SAW THE HOT SPOTS AND YOU POINTED TO THE BROAD STREET 2 88 QUARTER, AND YOU SAID IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE FIXED THAT.
SADLY, FRUSTRATINGLY, THAT'S THE WAY TRANSPORTATION WORKS.
YOU GET THE MONEY ONLY AFTER THE FACT.
THERE'S JUST NO GETTING AROUND THAT.
AND WE STRUGGLED WITH THAT LAST MONTH WITH PROJECT ROCKY GETTING BEAT UP BY THE CITIZENS WHO DIDN'T WANT THAT DISTRIBUTION CENTER THERE.
BUT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THAT DISTRIBUTION CENTER IS WHAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT HAD BEEN LOOKING FOR, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO I JUST WILL WRAP UP MY COMMENTS AND, AND EMPLOY YOU TO PLEASE GET ENGAGED WITH THE PLANS, PARTICULARLY FOR CENTERVILLE AND FOR THE VILLAGE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GOING TO GROW GRACE FULLY AND HAVE, HAVE THE VILLAGE THAT I THINK THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THIS APPLICATION BE DEFERRED.
I WOULD SAY DEFER AT LEAST UNTIL OUR FEBRUARY MEETING.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? UM, I'LL SECOND.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.
SO I'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN DEFER AND DENY, UH, ALL NIGHT.
WHAT I WANNA KNOW IS, UM, IF WE DEFER IT, ARE WE GONNA HAVE SOMETHING THAT WILL ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT? UM, YOU KNOW, SAFETY DENSITY, UM, WELL BASICALLY THE, THE STUB ROAD, UM, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY.
SO WILL WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION IF WE DO FEBRUARY, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, ACCORDING TO MR. CASH, WE NOT GOING TO EVEN GET THE VILLAGE PLAN UNTIL FEBRUARY.
IT'S GOTTA GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN TO US, UH, BEFORE IT'S ACTUALLY PUT IN PLACE.
SO I THINK FEBRUARY, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA DEFER IT, FEBRUARY MIGHT BE A LITTLE EARLY.
THAT THOUGHT MR. CARPENTER, IF I MAY, UM, SURE.
WITH THE PLAN COMING IN IN FEBRUARY, THE BOARD WOULDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GET IT TILL MARCH.
WE'RE ALSO STARTING TO GET INTO BUDGETS.
SO, UH, IF WE DEFERRED TO THE MARCH 7TH OR THE APRIL 18TH MEETING, THEN THAT WOULD KIND OF WORK AROUND SOME OF THE SCHEDULES THAT WE HAVE OF THINGS ALREADY COMING IN FRONT OF US.
DOES IT GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST OR JUST TO STRAIGHT TO US? COME BACK TO US.
IT DOES GO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE THE PLAN, THE VILLAGE PLAN.
THIS DOES NOT NEED TO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE VILLAGE PLAN.
DEPENDS ON HOW YOU ASKED A QUESTION, RIGHT?
BUT WE DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
NOW THAT'S THE ONE THEY THINK IS GONNA HAPPEN.
WHAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN IS WHEN THEY PLANNED IT FOR NOVEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION DECEMBER BOARD.
UH, NO, THAT, THAT'S NOT MR. CASH.
CAN YOU HELP US UP? UM, NO, I MEAN ACTUALLY, UH, UM, MS. MCGEE IS, IS CORRECT.
WE SAY THAT PARTICIPATE PAINT
I'M GONNA WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T STAY IN THE RECORD.
UM, BUT NO, UH, MS. MCGEE IS, WE ACTUALLY, WE'D HOPE THAT HAVE IT TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR EITHER DECEMBER, MOST LIKELY JANUARY, UM, ACTION AND THEN WOULD COME TO YOU IN FEBRUARY.
UM, AGAIN, UH, STAFF WOULDN'T DIS AND YOU WOULD ALSO, I THINK THE BOARD MAY NEED TIME TO ABSORB IT.
UM, HAVING THAT, HAVING THIS CASE AT THE FEBRUARY HEARING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I MEAN THE BOARD HEARING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE, OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULD BE A LOT.
UM, SO I, IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO MOVE ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO BACK, UH, I THINK BY THAT TIME PEOPLE WOULD'VE
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EVALUATED AND HER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEW UPDATES MEAN.AND YOU ALSO SAID, UH, WELL HAVE YOU HERE THAT WE THINK WE'RE GONNA GET THE CORRIDOR STUDY AS WELL.
SHOULD ALL, WE WOULD HOPE THEY SHOULD.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S CORRECT.
UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S NEVER, THERE'S NEVER, IF THE APPLICANT, UM, UNDERSTANDS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S THEIR, IT'S THEIR MONEY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NEVER A BAD IDEA TO BUILD IN SOME EXTRA TIME.
UM, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT COMES UP DURING, AS WE GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
SO, UM, STAFF, STAFF ANTICIPATE THIS TIME FEBRUARY, BUT, UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD THE FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING YET THAT YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD, WE'RE STILL IN A DISCUSSION PHASE, MAYBE.
UM, I AGREE WITH MS. LASETTE THAT I DON'T LIKE TO DEFER THINGS FOR THE SAKE OF DEFERRING EMETT.
I'LL DEFER THEM IF I THINK A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF NEW INFORMATION, IT WOULD LEAD TO A BETTER DECISION.
AND IN THIS CASE, YOU HAD TOUCHED ON RESOLUTION OF SOME OF THE OUTSTANDING ISSUES.
I WANNA SUGGEST PERHAPS ANOTHER PIECE OF INFORMATION WOULD BE, UM, THE TIMING.
SO MY QUESTION TO, UH, MS. MCGEE, UM, IF WE DO DEFER THIS, UM, AND WE GET TO FEBRUARY, MARCH OR WHENEVER, AND WE THINK THAT IN THE NEXT 60 DAYS WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION, IS A SECOND DEFERRAL POSSIBLE? YES.
THE BOARD HAS, UM, UNDER STATE LAW AND YOUR OWN, UH, RULES OF PROCEDURE 12 MONTHS, A TOTAL OF 12 MONTHS TO REACH A FINAL DECISION ON A CASE THAT'S COME BEFORE YOU.
SO FROM TODAY BEING YOUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING THIS, BUT LEGALLY YOU HAVE UNTIL SEPTEMBER OF 2023 AND THOSE DEFERRALS COULD BE TAKEN, HEAVEN FORBID, EVERY MONTH, WHICH IS NOT WHAT GIN'S PRACTICE IS, THOUGH SOME OTHERS IN THE REGION DO OR IN SMALLER BITES.
SO, SO I GUESS IT'S SEPTEMBER NOW, TRYING TO GUESS WHAT FEBRUARY MARCH IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
WE'LL HAVE MORE CLARITY PERHAPS AT THAT POINT TO SAY, OKAY, THE TIMING LOOKS LIKE THIS IS, UH, WHEN WE'D HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION OR THE BETTER INFORMATION TO MAKE A BETTER DECISION KIND OF THING.
SO THE RESOLUTION OF THE ISSUES MAY FLOW OUT OF THAT, BUT THE TIMING WOULD BECOME MORE CLEAR PERHAPS AS WELL.
AND WE'RE NOT TIED INTO WHATEVER DATE THAT WE PICK NOW IS THE END ALL BE ALL.
WE'VE GOT THAT KIND OF FLEXIBILITY.
WHATEVER DATE, UH, WHATEVER REGULAR MEETING MONTH YOU MIGHT PICK IN 2023.
IF IT GETS TO THAT, YOU FEEL THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION AND YOU COULD GET MORE, UM, YOUR OBLIGATION IS TO PUT IT ON YOUR AGENDA TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT PUBLIC HEARING COULD BE SOLELY ON A DEFERRAL OR IT COULD BE A FULL PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CASE, BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE OPTION TO HAVE ANOTHER DEFERRAL.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.
THE, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE I'M READY TO, UH, DISPOSE OF THIS IN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AT THIS POINT BECAUSE IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
BUT IT IS SUBJECT TO AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT STUDIES, A TRAFFIC STUDY UP FAIRGROUNDS AND A VILLAGE STUDY IN THE PLAN, IN ADDITION TO THE INCONSISTENCY WITH THE COMP PLAN.
SO I'M JUST NOT READY TO GET BEHIND THIS JUST YET.
DOESN'T MEAN IT'LL NEVER GET THERE.
THE NEW INFORMATION WOULD BE THE RESOLUTION OF PERHAPS THE STUB ISSUE AND SOME OF THESE TWO STUDIES THAT ARE GONNA BE COMING BEFORE THE, THE, THE BOARD.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THE INCONSISTENCY WITH THE COMP PLAN MAY OR MAY NOT GET RESOLVED IN THAT PROCESS AS WELL.
AND I THINK AT THAT POINT I'D BE BETTER PREPARED TO MAKE A GOOD DECISION ON THIS.
AND AS FAR AS THE TIMING GOES, IT'S A LITTLE, MY CRYSTAL BALL'S A LITTLE FUZZY SIX MONTHS OUT.
BUT IF IT BECOMES MORE CLEAR AT THAT POINT, WE HAVE THE OPTION TO BE ABLE TO DO IT RIGHT.
AND I THINK I UNDERSTOOD YOU MR. PETERSON, BUT IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE COMP PLAN NOW, BUT THIS VILLAGE PLAN AS SURE AS I'M SITTING HERE, THE VILLAGE PLAN IS GOING TO CHANGE THE COMP PLAN FOR OUR VILLAGE.
SO, SO, AND AGAIN, IF WE GET, IF WE GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THIS IS STILL NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMP PLAN, THEN, THEN WE'LL KNOW SOMETHING.
I THOUGHT, I JUST THOUGHT FIVE MONTHS, THE REASON I PICKED FEBRUARY, I THOUGHT FIVE MONTHS IS OUT THERE.
THINGS MAY ALL COME UP AT THAT TIME.
AND, AND THEN WE, LIKE YOU SAID, WE HAVE BUDGET, MAYBE WE'LL PUSH IT OUT ANOTHER MONTH OR TWO.
BUT THAT'S A LOT TO ASK FOR THE APPLICANT.
AND I WANT TO, I I, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE APPLICANT.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT PEOPLE HERE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS, BUT I HAVE, I HAVE A PERSPECTIVE ON THIS THAT IS LEADING ME TO TRY TO WANT TO GET TO SOME SORT OF YES FOR THE APPLICANT.
THIS STARTED OUT LOW DENSITY AND AS I UNDERSTOOD IT COM COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE LIKE, DON'T PUT ALL THOSE WELLS NEAR, NEAR OUR PLACE, NEAR OUR HOMES.
SO OKAY, BRING WATER FROM HIDDEN ROCK PARK ALL THE WAY UP, THAT'S GONNA MEAN MORE DENSITY THEN AFTER THAT, DON'T PUT ALL THOSE SEPTIC FIELDS THERE.
SO THAT MEANS SEWAGE COMING UP.
SO, UM, I, I LIKE IT WHEN AN APPLICANT'S BEEN RESPONSIVE.
WELL, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN RESPONSIVE.
AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU LEARN TODAY THAT I THINK YOU CAN, WE CAN WORK TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE TO THE STUB ROAD.
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I, I, I'VE SAT IN AND I'VE LISTENED TO THAT.I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'LL, THAT'LL LAND.
I KNOW MR. SLOAN, YOU SAID THAT IT'S, IT'S IN OUR PREROGATIVE, WE'LL GET THERE.
IT JUST MIGHT, I MEAN, WE'RE GETTING TO KNOW VDOT BETTER AND BETTER.
SO WE, WE, WE ARE GONNA FIND SOMEBODY AND, AND WORK ON, WORK ON THAT.
UM, UH, THERE JUST, JUST NEED SOME MORE WORK.
UM, AND SO THERE'S GONNA BE WORK GOING ON IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE JUST GONNA TAKE TODAY, FREEZE IT UNTIL FEBRUARY, AND THEN LET'S SEE IF THE STARS LINE UP DIFFERENTLY.
I THINK THERE'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE WORK, UM, THAT, THAT THE APPLICANT CAN DO.
AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO, I MEAN, TRANSPORTATION IS A PROBLEM EVERYWHERE IN THE REGION AND, AND IN AND THROUGHOUT GLAND THAT, AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S, WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF ENERGY AND TIME TRYING TO MOVE THE NEEDLE ON THAT TOPIC.
MR. CHAIR WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO AT LEAST, UM, FIND OUT WHERE THE APPLICANT WOULD STAND ON SUCH A DEFERRAL.
IS THAT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST CAUSE WE WE'RE UP, WE'RE UP HERE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND WE JUST, I'D LIKE TO KNOW FROM YOU.
WE ARE HAPPY TO DEFER UNTIL WE GET SOME RESOLUTION ON THE STUDIES.
I, AS YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, YOU PROBABLY DO KNOW, BUT SOME FOLKS HERE MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW MS. MCGEE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG HERE THOUGH.
IF, IF IT, IF IT GETS PUSHED TO A VOTE AND GETS DENIED, IT CANNOT COME BACK BEFORE US FOR 12 MONTHS.
IF WE DEFERRED FOR FIVE OR SIX MONTHS, IT CAN COME BACK TO US IN FIVE OR SIX MONTHS.
I GUESS THAT'S FOR FOLKS THAT AREN'T AWARE OF THAT, SO, ALL RIGHT.
AND WE DO, UM, I GOT, I GOT CHASTISED LAST TIME WE HAD A BIG MEETING AND I JUST LET EVERYBODY ELSE TALK AND DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.
SO Y'ALL GET TO LISTEN TO ME FOR A MINUTE.
UM, WHO CHASTISED YOU FOR NOT TALKING
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, EVERYBODY WOULD TELL ME, OH, WE UNDERSTAND GROWTH.
WE UNDERSTAND GROWTH THROUGH IT'S SMART.
UM, I, THERE'S PROBABLY NOTHING MORE THAT I DISLIKE MORE THAN DEFERRING SOMETHING BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT.
AND WE, I DON'T BELIEVE IN KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
I REMEMBER AS I WAS ELECTED AND MANNEQUIN TOWN WAS COMING UP AND I'M LIKE, OH, GREAT, THEY'D DEFERRED IT TILL THE NEXT BOARD.
UM, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN THIS TIME.
UM, BUT I DO AGREE WITH MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT POINTS TONIGHT.
ONE OF THE ONES THAT I DID WANT TO ADDRESS WAS, YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND I THINK MISS MS. PRICE TALKED ABOUT CHILDCARE AND, YOU KNOW, MY DAUGHTER DID GO TO, UH, CHILDCARE HERE.
AND IT, IT IS THE, THE CHICKEN AND EGG IN JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.
TRANSPORTATION, WHETHER IT BE RESTAURANTS, WHETHER IT BE DRY.
I MEAN, MY NEIGHBORS ARE SCREAMED FOR DRY CLEANING.
UM, BUT WE DON'T DETERMINE, WE CAN'T SAY, OKAY, YOU NEED TO PULL OUT A DAYCARE CENTER HERE OR YOU DO THAT.
THAT'S NOT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.
BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS, IS LOOK AT PROJECTS IN A WAY THAT'S GOING TO GROW, UH, GRACEFULLY, UM, AND TRY TO KEEP OUR RURAL CHARACTER.
I, I AGREE, UH, WITH, UH, MR. LUMPS, MY, MY HEART GOES OUT TO THE APPLICANT.
HE'S TRYING TO PUT A GREAT PROJECT TOGETHER.
UM, AND I HOPE WE CAN GET THERE.
AND WHILE I HATE MAKING A, UH, MAKING VOTING FOR A DEFERRAL, I WOULD HATE MAKING A WRONG DECISION OR ANOTHER WRONG DECISION.
UM, EVEN MORE BECAUSE WE, WE TRY TO GET IT RIGHT AND WE DO OUR BEST.
AND I KNOW, UH, YOU MAY NOT SEE THAT ONLINE, BUT IT IS TRUE.
SO, UM, I APPRECIATE, AGAIN, THE BOARD'S WILLINGNESS TO, UH, MAKE THE RIGHT.
AND I THINK THIS BOARD MAKES A LOT OF DIFFICULT DECISIONS.
WE CAN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TIMES IN THE ALMOST THREE YEARS I'VE BEEN ON THIS WHERE WE COULD HAVE KICKED A CAN OR WE COULD HAVE JUST PASSED SOMETHING OR DECLINED, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE, WE'VE FOUGHT TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND, UM, I'M PROUD OF THAT.
SO, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU DON'T WANNA FOLLOW THAT I'M SURE.
WELL, I SAY GRADUATED MR. PETERSON.
UM, NO, I JUST REAL QUICK WANTED TO THANK ALL THOSE CITIZENS FOR THE PARTICIPATION TONIGHT CUZ IT HELPS LEAD TO BETTER DECISIONS.
AND WHETHER YOU GO HOME TONIGHT AND YOU SAY THEY DID WHAT I WANTED TO OR DIDN'T DO WHAT I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND PROVIDING YOUR INPUT AT THE CHAIR.
WE, WE, WE NEED THE INPUT AT THESE, AT THESE MEETINGS AND AT THESE, AT THE PLANNING.
UM, SO THAT WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE, WHEN EVERYBODY ASKS ME, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE PLANS? I'M LIKE, IT REALLY, REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I THINK.
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OKAY.IT'S BIRTH UNTIL FEBRUARY 7TH.
SO THE MOTION IS TO DEFER TILL FEBRUARY 7TH, IS THAT RIGHT? IT'S TO YOUR FEBRUARY REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING, WHICH IS FEBRUARY 7TH.
THAT'S THE CERTAIN, OKAY, SO WHAT ME,
THANKS AGAIN FOR EVERYBODY COMING OUT.
AND THAT IS OUR LAST PIECE OF BUSINESS.
I WILL BE ADJOURNING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETING, UM, TO TUESDAY, OCTOBER 4TH AT 2:00 PM FOR A REGULAR MEETING, 6:00 PM FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WE HAVE OUR OCTOBER TOWN HALL, DISTRICTS ONE S ON THE 13TH AT SIX 30, DISTRICT TWO AND THREE, MONDAY, OCTOBER 17TH.