Aug 02, 2022 BOS Regular Meeting 8-2-22

OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND THROUGH THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, THE NATION UNDER GOD INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

PLEASE JOIN ME AS WE PRAY.

LORD GOD, WE'RE HERE TODAY AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT OF LIFE.

THANK YOU FOR THE BEAUTIFUL GIFT OF A SUMMER AFTERNOON.

AND AS WE'VE COME AND WE HAVE BROUGHT IDEAS AND INTERESTS AND CONCERNS, WE PRAY FOR YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR PRESENCE.

WE'RE AWARE, LORD, THAT YOU KNOW EVERYTHING, AND BY COMPARISON, WE KNOW QUITE LITTLE, AND WE ASK FOR YOUR PRESENCE, THAT THIS MEETING, AS WELL AS OTHERS THAT HAPPEN IN THIS ROOM, WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO A THRIVING COUNTY AND A SHARED COMMON HUMANITY.

AS WE ALL SEEK LIFE TOGETHER, WE PRAY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BROUGHT THEIR INTERESTS AND ALSO FOR THE SUPERVISORS THAT YOU WOULD GIVE WISDOM AND CHARITY AND DISCERNMENT AND INSIGHT TO THE ITEMS AT HAND TODAY, WE PRAY IN YOUR NAME, AMEN.

AMEN.

FLAG

[III. Pledge of Allegiance]

[IV. Chair's Comments]

A JUST A QUICK COMMENT TODAY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU ARE, WERE FANS, BUT, OR REALIZED THAT SUNDAY, UH, WAS THE DAY THAT HANNAH BARB, UH, INDICATED THAT, UH, GEORGE JEFFERSON WOULD BE BORN.

OH, JETSON, GEORGE JETSON, UH, UH, SO IN THE WORLD ON SUNDAY, GEORGE JETSON WAS BORN.

AND WHILE THE JETSON BROUGHT US A LOT OF GREAT THINGS, THEY BROUGHT US, UH, FLAT SCREEN TVS, VIDEO CALLS, UH, TABLETS, ROBOTIC VACUUMS, MOVEABLE WALKWAYS.

UM, UH, THEY BROUGHT US A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THEY DIDN'T BRING US THE ABILITY TO REPLICATE FOOD.

UM, THAT HAS NOT YET COME TO FRUITION.

AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE DAYS THERE'S A LOT TO WORRY ABOUT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEWS, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UM, ARE, ARE CONCERNING.

AND I'VE BEEN PAYING AN AWFUL LOT OF ATTENTION LIVING IN AN AGRICULTURAL, UH, COUNTY, UM, AROUND REGARDING THE CONCERNS AROUND THE FOOD CHARGE.

AND I'M A BIG PROPONENT OF KNOW WHAT YOU CONTROL.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO CONTROL IS HOW WE CAN SUPPORT OUR LOCAL FARMERS AND OUR LOCAL AG COMMUNITY.

UM, I WAS BROKEN HEARTED TODAY TO HEAR THAT, UM, UH, DANNY ALLEN, UH, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH HIM, HE HAS A FARM STAND IN COTTAGE HILL FARMS. UM, HE SHUT DOWN FOR THE SEASON, UH, BASED ON THE WEATHER, YOU KNOW, JUST TYPICAL BEING A FARMER.

HE WAS BEING VERY SUPPORTED, BUT SEED QUALITY AND, AND WEATHER CONDITIONS HAVE CAUSED HIM TO HAVE TO SHUT DOWN HIS STAND EARLY.

SO TODAY IS THE FARMER'S MARKET JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

SO I JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO BUY LOCAL TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL FARMERS BECAUSE, UH, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA SUPPORT US, AND WE WE'RE GONNA, WE NEED THEM.

SO, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, AND THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS.

I AM VERY EXCITED TO, UH, DO THIS PRESENTATION.

[V. Presentation of Resolution of Recognition for Anita Barnes]

WHEN I MOVED TO GUC AND COUNTY, YOU KNOW, GUC, ANITA BARNES WAS SYNONYMOUS WITH GIN COUNTY.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO, UH, PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST FUN PARTS OF THIS ROLE IS TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THESE, UH, RESOLUTIONS.

SO I'M GONNA COME DOWN IF NEED, IF YOU'LL MEET ME DOWN FRONT.

AND MR. CARPENTER, UM, IF YOU PLEASE READ IT, OVER HERE.

OH.

WHEREAS IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO GIVE WELL DESERVED ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND RECOGNITION

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TO MRS. ANITA BARNES, WHO HAS RENDERED EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, COUNTY STAFF, AND CITIZENS OF GLAND COUNTY.

AND WHEREAS ANITA BARNES ANNOUNCED HER RESIGNATION AS ZONING ADMINISTRATOR FOR GLAND COUNTY AFTER MORE THAN 33 YEARS, A DILIGENCE SERVICE.

AND WHEREAS ANITA BARNES BEGAN HER TENURE WITH GLAND COUNTY ON JULY 10TH, 1989, AND WAS PROMOTED TO ZONING ADMINISTRATOR IN OCTOBER OF 2010.

AND WHEREAS ANITA BARNES HAS WORKED IN THE PLANNING OFFICE SINCE IT WAS A TWO PERSON OFFICE AND HAS EXTENSIVE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE OF ITS WORKING, HAS CONTINUOUSLY PROVIDED OUTSTANDING CUSTOMER SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF GOLAND AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS ANITA BARNES HAS BEEN THE GATEKEEPER FOR ALL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS, WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR EXECUTION OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, ORGANIZED AND MAINTAINED FILES FOR ALL OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING CREATING ONGOING RECORDS AND SCANNING IN ORDER INFORMATION.

AND WHEREAS ANITA BARNES HAS CONTRIBUTED TO FURTHER SUCCESSES OF GLAND COUNTY BY SERVING AS A VOLUNTEER AND TO MANY LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF HIDDEN ROCK PARK AND CAMPUS HOURS SERVING ANIMAL RESCUE AND CARE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY.

AND WHEREAS ANITA BARNES ABILITY TO ENGAGE HER EXPERTISE INITIATIVE AND WILLINGNESS TO TAKE ON LARGE CHALLENGES IS A TESTAMENT TO OUR ABILITY TO LEAD AND INSPIRE EFFECTIVELY.

AND WHEREAS ANITA BARNES HAS EXHIBITED THE MOST OUTSTANDING FASHION SENSE WHILE BEING KIND AND HELPFUL TO ALL , NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE GIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY COMMENDS, RECOGNIZES, APPRECIATES AND SINCERELY THANKS MRS. ANITA BARNES FOR HER CUSTOMER SERVICE AND DEDICATION TO GIAN COUNTY AND OFFICER HER THEIR BEST WISHES BOARD TO HAVE A MOTION.

I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

IS THE TIME FOR OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S COMMENTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GETTING YOU.

OKAY, NOW

[VI. County Administrator's Comments]

MR. CARPENTER, UH, MS. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JUST A FEW COMMENTS FOR YOU THIS AFTERNOON.

UH, HOPEFULLY YOU HAD A CHANCE TO NOTICE OUTSIDE, UH, OUR NEW SERVICE BOAT.

UM, THE, UH, CHIEF WILL BE DISCUSSING IN A LITTLE GREATER DETAIL WHEN HE HAS TIME FOR COMMENTS, BUT I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND, UH, SEE THE, UH, CAPABILITY THAT WE NOW HAVE IN PROVIDING SERVICES TO OUR CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY ON WATER.

ALSO, IF YOU HAD, UH, PLANNED AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE, UH, CONCERT WE HAD SCHEDULED THIS PAST WEEKEND, THE AMOUNT OF RAIN WE'VE RECEIVED HAD MADE THE PARK NOT SUITABLE, SO IT HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED.

UH, WE'RE SHOOTING FOR A MID-SEPTEMBER DATE TO RESCHEDULE THE JULY CONCERT.

UH, THE AUGUST CONCERT IS STILL GONNA BE HELD THROUGH, UH, PREVIOUSLY SET DATE.

ALSO, MEMBERS YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU A, UH, UH, AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH, UH, FIBER AND BROADBAND IN THE COUNTY.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK FORWARD THE NEXT MEETING.

WE'RE SCHEDULED TO HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM FIREFLY HERE TO GIVE US SOME MORE IN DEPTH AND IN DETAIL UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH BROADBAND ROLLOUT IN GIAN COUNTY.

AND FINALLY, AS YOU KNOW, TONIGHT IS NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

OUR SHERIFF IS VERY INVESTED INVOLVED WITH THIS.

UH, WE ENCOURAGE EVERY MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY TO, UH, STOP BY THE COURTHOUSE, UH, EITHER, UM, UH, THEY START AT SIX.

SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THE MEETING TONIGHT AT SIX, WHEN YOU'RE DONE, YOU'RE TO GO THERE.

AND ANYBODY WHO'S NOT HERE, WE ENCOURAGE TO GO THERE AS WELL.

AND, UH, MS. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S MY REPORT.

THANK YOU, MR. CARPENTER.

PORT, IS THERE ANY REQUESTED POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES

[VII. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the]

IN THE ORDER OF PRESENTATION? OKAY, SEEING NONE, WE'LL MOVE ON.

AND NOW IS THE TIME FOR OUR BUSINESS MEETING CITIZEN COMMENT.

THIS IS FOR, UH, THINGS

[VIII. Citizen Comment]

THAT AREN'T ON THE OPEN FOR PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.

SO FOR YOU TO COME FORWARD AND, UH, SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES ON TOPICS THAT ARE CONCERNING GOLAND COUNTY.

AND, UH, JUST PRESS THE GREEN BUTTON WHEN YOU SPEAK AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

ALL RIGHT, , I'M LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD, MANNEQUIN SABBATH.

UM, THAT'S IN DISTRICT FOUR .

IT'S STILL IN DISTRICT FOUR.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK

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EACH AND EVERY ONE OF Y'ALL FOR THE OUTSTANDING JOB THAT YOU DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

THE LONG HOURS THAT YOU ALL PUT IN.

I WILL NOT BE HERE TONIGHT.

I'M GOING TO NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, .

THAT BEING SAID, I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK OF JOANNE HUNTER, UM, IN A NEED OF BONDS TO HELP KEEP US ON TASK AS TO WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT IS NOT REAL.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN AWARE OF THE CONTROVERSY, UM, IN THE MISINFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN SENT OUT TO MOST OF MY, UH, FOLKS WHO DIDN'T KNOW THAT, THAT THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS WOULD CONTINUE PAST THE WILTON, UM, ACQUISITION.

MOST OF YOU ALL, QUITE A FEW OF YOU ALL WERE AWARE THAT, UM, THAT LIST WAS, UM, NOT SUPPOSED TO BE USED PAST THE WILTON, BUT IT HAS BEEN REVISED.

AND YET THE GENTLEMAN HAS SENT OUT BLAST ALL THREE AND FOUR A DAY FOR THE LAST THREE WEEKS THAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, AND THEY DO GET CONCERNED.

UM, THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS, UH, A FREE COUNTRY AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO VIEW OUR OPINIONS.

UM, THAT BEING SAID, PLEASE, JOANNE HAS, HAS ALLOWED US TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, UH, IN A REASONABLE WAY THAT EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND.

JOANNE ALSO PUTS OUT YOUR, UM, BOARD NOTES THAT, THAT AT STAFF NOTES THAT ARE THOROUGH AND TO THE POINT.

IS TO TAKE THE LETTERS IN THE FAR LEFT COLUMN AND MATCH 'EM TO THEIR OFFICIAL SLOGANS.

LOVE Y'ALL.

THANK YOU, MS. MOORE.

BEFORE MY THREE MINUTES STARTS, I I, I DO WANT TO ECHO THE, UH, ACCOMMODATION TO MS. BARNES, THOUGH SHE TOOK ONE FOR THE TEAM BECAUSE 32 YEARS AGO, SHE HELPED ME GET MY BUILDING PERMIT THAT ALLOWED ME TO MOVE TO GOLAND.

AND SO DON'T HOLD THAT AGAINST HERS, WOULD BE MY ONLY REQUEST.

UH, UH, JONATHAN L 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.

I AM A DIRECTOR FOR THE MOAN SOIL WATER CONSERVATION DIRECT, UH, DISTRICT, AND ALSO A GLAND FARM BUREAU DIRECTOR.

UH, I WANNA THANK THE BOARD FOR PROVIDING US WITH REVISED MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OPERATIONS BETWEEN MONICAN AND THE BOARD.

WE WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT ON OUR, UH, SEPTEMBER 15TH, I'M SORRY, AUGUST 15TH MEETING.

AND SO, ONCE WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, UH, YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DO AS YOUR PARTNER, I, I HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE THAT WE WILL HAVE AN EXECUTED COFFEE BACK TO YOU.

BUT THE PROCESS CONTINUES.

I WANNA MENTION THAT IN THE PAST, PEOPLE HAVE SOMETIMES SAID, WELL, UH, THE FARMERS ARE PUTTING SOIL AMENDMENTS DOWN THAT ARE MESSING UP MY WELL WATER.

AND MY QUESTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN, WELL, HOW WAS YOUR WELL WATER BEFORE THE SOIL AMENDMENTS WERE PUT DOWN? AND THEY NEVER COULD SAY.

SO ON, UH, UH, SEPTEMBER 19TH IS THE WELL WATER TESTING, UH, PROGRAM THAT THE, UH, UH, EXTENSION OFFICE DOES.

SO PUT THAT ON YOUR CALENDAR.

IT'S ABOUT A $60, UH, INVESTMENT.

VIRGINIA TECH RUNS IT.

BUT, UH, DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT YOUR WELL WATER AFTER SOMETHING HAPPENS.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS LIKE BEFORE SOMETHING HAPPENED, WOULD BE MY COUNCIL.

UH, I ALSO MENTIONED THAT THE GIN FARM BUREAU HAS ITS PRODUCERS MEETING THAT SAME NIGHT, UH, SEPTEMBER 19TH.

UH, LET ME JUST SAY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A FARMER TO BE A MEMBER OF THE FARM BUREAU.

IT'S A $40 A YEAR INVESTMENT.

IT'S MORE THAN INSURANCE.

THEY HAVE SOME WONDERFUL, WE HAVE SOME WONDERFUL DISCOUNTS.

I'LL JUST PASS THAT ALONG.

I, I'M NOW GONNA MAKE COMMENTS AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN, NOT FOR, UH, MONICAN OR GRETCHEN FARM BUREAU.

AND I WANNA SAY THAT THE, UH, STUDIES THAT ARE GOING ON FOR BOTH THE COURTHOUSE AND, UH, CENTERVILLE, THE VILLAGE STUDIES, UM, ARE, ARE PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

I GOTTA HURRY UP HERE.

UM, BUT MY REQUEST IS THAT AS ASPIRATIONAL AND INSPIRATIONAL AS THEY ARE, BEFORE WE INVEST ANY RESOURCES INTO REBRANDING OR BRANDING THE COUNTIES, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH AND ON THE SCREEN, UH, AND I THINK YOU HAVE A HARD COPY, ARE SOME LOCALITIES HERE IN VIRGINIA, AND THEN THERE'S SOME OFFICIAL SLOGANS AND UNOFFICIAL SLOGANS.

AND THE, THE OPPORTUNITY

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SO, VIRGINIA BEACH A WOULD BE WHAT? AND, AND MY SUGGESTION IS THAT THE UNOFFICIAL SLOGANS ARE SOMETIMES EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THAN ARE THE OFFICIAL SLOGANS.

AND THERE'S A LOCALITY ABOUT 20 MILES EAST OF US THAT'S GONNA SPEND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS PROMOTING, UH, THEIR SLOGAN.

AND, AND I HAVE NO CONCERNS THAT THIS BOARD WOULD EVER INVEST, UH, SILLY MONEY IN, IN PUTTING A BRANDING TOGETHER.

AND AS MUCH AS I LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT OUR COUNTIES THAT ARE VILLAGES, UH, I, I JUST SAY, LET'S GO SLOW AND LET'S UNDERSTAND WHO WE ARE BEFORE WE TRY AND MAKE US INTO, UH, AN IMAGINED WHO WE ARE.

SO MY RED LIGHT WENT OFF AND I WILL SIT DOWN.

THANK YOU, MR. LYLE.

ANY OTHER CITIZENS WISHING TO COME FORWARD? OKAY.

NOT, I WILL CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD BOARD IN YOUR, UM, PACKET.

WE HAVE OUR MEETING MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 7TH MEETING.

UM, CAN I GET A MOTION FOR

[IX. Approval of Action Minutes]

APPROVAL OR IF ANY CORRECTIONS NEED TO BE ANY? ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE JUNE 7TH, 2000, 2002 REGULAR BOARD SUPERVISOR MEETINGS MINUTES.

THANK YOU, MS. LASETTE.

THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

AT THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.

POSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE MOVING TO, OUR REPORTS ARE FIRST UP AS EACH MONTH AS OUR PARTNERS

[X. Reports]

[1. 5451: VDOT - July 2022]

MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER, UH, MARSHALL WITH VDOT.

UH, THIS MONTH WE HAD 155 WORK ORDERS COMPLETED.

153 OF 'EM HAD EIGHT CALLOUTS AFTER HOUR.

CALLOUTS THE TREE, UH, DEBRIS CLEANUP FROM THE TORNADO IS COMPLETED.

UM, GLAD TO GET THAT BEHIND US.

UM, SECOND, UH, PRIMARY MODE.

WE'VE COMPLETED OUR SECOND CYCLE AND PLAN ON A THIRD CYCLE COMING UP IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO.

UM, THE SECONDARY MO CYCLE HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND WE'LL START ON OUR SECOND CYCLE, PROBABLY SEPTEMBER 1ST WEEK, SECOND WEEK IN SEPTEMBER FOR THE FINAL MO OF THE SEASON.

UH, CROSSOVER AT ROUTE SIX FOR THE MANNEQUIN COMPANY.

ONE'S FIRE STATION IS COMPLETED.

EVERYTHING TURNED OUT PRETTY GOOD.

IT WAS A EASY JOB TO GET DONE AND I HOPE THE CHIEF LIKES IT.

UH, OTHER THAN THAT, WE'VE BEEN DOING NORMAL MAINTENANCE WORK THROUGHOUT THE MONTH AND EVERYTHING.

UH, LOOK FORWARD TO SOME DRIER WEATHER ACTUALLY, WITH ALL THESE STORMS WE'VE BEEN HAVING.

UM, DO KNOW THAT, UH, I WANTED TO BRING UP THE SPEECH STUDY AT, UH, ROUTE SIX IN HAYSVILLE FIFE.

SUPPOSED TO HAVE THAT STUDY IN BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

AND ONCE I GET IT, I'LL FORWARD IT ON TO Y'ALL AND MS. ETTE, CUZ I KNOW SHE'S INTERESTED IN THAT AT GEORGIA'S TA.

YES, THAT'S IT.

THAT'S THE ONE, UH, QUARTER STUDY IS ONGOING ON FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.

THAT SHOULD BE COMPLETE BY THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.

UH, WE'LL SEND THAT OUT ONCE WE GET IT.

WE DO HAVE A SPEED STUDY GOING ON ON WESTVIEW ROUTE 6 43.

SHOULD GET THAT BY THE END OF THIS WEEK.

AND I'LL FORWARD THAT ON, UM, THE, UH, PAING WORK ON WHITE HALL ROUTE 6 73.

UH, I THINK THEY'RE STILL PUTTING SHOULDER STONE DOWN.

I DON'T HAVE AN ANTICIPATED DATE OF WHEN THEY GO DO THE PAYMENT MARKING.

UH, THE PROBLEM WITH PAVEMENT MARKING, IF YOU GET A RAIN TODAY, YOU GOTTA WAIT 48 HOURS OF DRY WEATHER BEFORE THEY CAN PUT THE PAVEMENT MARKING DOWN OR IT WON'T STICK.

UM, I KNOW WE'VE HAD SOME ISSUES WITH SOME FLAGGERS OUT THERE.

I'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH MY CONTRACT MANAGERS AND LEHIGH IS HAVING A TOUGH TIME WITH FLAGGERS.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT.

BUT HAVE YOU SEE ANYTHING? I KNOW MS. LASETTE CALLED ME THE OTHER DAY.

I KNOW MR. SPOON.

HOWARD SENT SOME PICTURES TO ME THE OTHER DAY.

JUST KEEP SENDING THEM TO ME AND I'LL GET WITH CONSTRUCTION STAFF AND EVERYTHING.

OTHER THAN THAT, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

NOT UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MS. LASETTE, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU.

I'M WHITE HALL.

I KNOW IT'S NOT IN MY DISTRICT ONLY BY LITTLE PIECE, BUT IT'S GREAT WORK.

IT'S REALLY IS A NICE JOB.

MS. KINS, COULD YOU, COULD YOU GIVE A LITTLE IDEA OF WHAT THE CORRIDOR SAFETY STUDY SHOULD SHOW? I MEAN, DO, DO YOU LOOK AT LIKE, ANTICIPATED GROWTH? WHAT, WHAT? LOOKING AT THE GYM, GEOMETRY OF THE ROAD, CURVATURE, ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

TRAFFIC, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC, THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC,

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THAT SORT OF THING.

YOU LOOK AT CURRENT, CURRENT VOLUMES, EXISTING VOLUMES.

NOT, NOT, NOT VOLUMES BASED ON ANTICIPATED GROWTH AT EITHER.

IT, IT, IT POSSIBLY IS THIS FIRST QUARTER STUDY WE'VE DONE IN GOLAND COUNTY.

I KNOW WE PAVED, UH, FAIRGROUNDS ROAD, WHAT WAS IT, THREE YEAR, FOUR YEARS AGO.

AND THAT WAS ABOUT $900,000 INVESTMENT FOR US.

WE DID, YOU KNOW, FAIRGROUNDS IN OILVILLE ROAD AT THE SAME TIME.

SO YOU SAID THIS IS THE FIRST QUARTER SAFETY STUDY WE'VE IN GLAND THAT FOR, FOR FOR A SECONDARY ROAD? YES.

FOR A SECONDARY ROAD, YEAH.

SO WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? JUST A LITTLE PREVIEW.

WHAT'S THE DELIVERABLE GONNA TELL US? IS IT GONNA TELL US ROAD IS SAFE, YOU HAVE PROBLEMS AND IT'S GOING, IT'S GONNA HAVE THAT, ALL THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION ON IT.

JUST TELLING US AREAS OF CONCERN AND CORRECT.

ALL I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PRETTY DEEP FILLS IN DIFFERENT AREAS ALONG THERE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WIDENING FAIRGROUNDS WOULD BE, UH, BIG UNDER TAKEN FOR SURE.

CUZ YOU'D HAVE TO BUY YOU BILL RIGHT AWAY.

ARE THEY GONNA GET INTO SOME OF THAT? THAT LIKE THEY'LL, THEY'LL LOOK, THEY'LL LOOK INTO ALL OF THAT, SO.

BUT THAT INFORMATION WILL BE COMING OUT AND I'LL PROBABLY FORWARD IT ON TO AUSTIN.

AND, AND MS. HUNTER, SO GOOD.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

ANYBODY ELSE? MR. PETERSON? YEAH, I'LL JUST ADD MY THANKS TO THE CUT THROUGH ON THE MEDIAN AND PATTERSON.

THAT SEEMED LIKE YOU TURNED THAT AROUND PRETTY QUICKLY.

I ASSUME IT CAME IN ON BUDGET AND SO THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

GRASS GERMINATED REAL FAST TOO.

IT'S GREEN OVER THERE, .

THANK YOU SO, SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT ALL.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE CHIEF FERGUSON START FOR DOING THAT FIRE AND RESCUE.

[2. 5448: Fire-Rescue 07.01.2022]

EDDIE FERGUSON, FIRE RESCUE CHIEF.

UM, CERTAINLY I HAVE ALREADY SENT THE REPORT IN FOR FIRE RESCUE AND I'D LIKE TO START THIS AFTERNOON WITH A SPECIAL PRESENTATION.

ALWAYS GIVES ME A GREAT PLEASURE TO SAY HOW PROUD I AM OF THE FOLKS WHO STAFF THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT, BOTH THEIR CAREER AND VOLUNTEER MEMBERS, AND FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO.

UM, THE BOAT, WHAT IS OUT FRONT, UH, ON DISPLAY, OUR NEW BOAT, NEWEST, UH, WATER RESCUE BOAT.

AND SO TODAY'S, UH, PRESENTATION DOES CENTER AROUND WATER RESCUE RECENT EVENTS THAT OCCURRED IN THE COUNTY.

BUT I THINK IT, UH, WOULD ONLY BE APPROPRIATE TO SEND OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS TO ALL THOSE IN KENTUCKY WHO ARE AFFECTED BY THE, THE MASSIVE FLOODING OUT THERE, THOSE WHO'VE LOST THEIR LIVES, THE PROPERTY, AND ALSO THE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS WHO ARE ON THE JOB OUT THERE DOING ALL THEY CAN DO TO, TO MITIGATE THAT SITUATION.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE YOU BACK IN TIME A LITTLE BIT, UH, ON HOW THE WATER RESCUE TEAM GOT STARTED HERE IN GOLAND COUNTY.

UH, IT GOES BACK ALMOST ACTUALLY 50 YEARS, UH, RECENTLY, UH, ROSALYN RYAN AND THE GOLAND GAZETTE HAD A ARTICLE ABOUT THE HISTORIC FLOODS OF 1972 WITH HURRICANE AGNES WHEN THEY CAME TO THE COUNTY.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT STARTED THE WATER RESCUE TEAM IN THE COUNTY.

WE'VE GOT GREAT HISTORIANS AND THEY, UH, KEPT, KEPT GREAT MINUTES.

AND I WANNA READ YOU A PASSAGE OUT OF, UH, THE HISTORY OF THE WATER RESCUE TEAM.

ON JUNE 22ND, 1972, THE TORRENTIAL REIGNS FROM HURRICANE AGNES CAUSED THE JAMES RIVER TO BECOME A RAGING FORCE ESCAPING FROM ITS BANKS TO RA RAISE HAVOC WITH ANYTHING IN HIS PATH.

DURING THE NIGHT, WHILE MOST OF GOLAND CITIZENS WERE SNUG IN THEIR HOMES, STATE TROOPER TOM SNEED PUT IN A CALL FOR ASSISTANCE TO GET HELP FOR TWO PEOPLE ON A CAR STRANDED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BRIDGE AT COLUMBIA VOLUNTEER FIREMEN AND RESCUE SQUADS MAN FROM GOLAND COUNTY RESPONDED TO TROOPER SNES CALL FOR ASSISTANCE.

THERE WERE NO BOATS OR ANY OTHER WATER RESCUE EQUIPMENT IN THE DEPARTMENT.

AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.

SEVERAL FIREMEN ATTEMPTED TO FORM A ROPE BRIGADE IN ORDER TO REACH THE STRANDED COUPLE.

THIS ATTEMPT RESULTED IN THE TWO MEN BEING WASHED AWAY BY THE SWIFT CURRENT AND ALMOST LOST THEIR LIVES.

ONE WAS PULLED ASHORE AND THE SECOND WAS SPENT A COUPLE HOURS UP A TREE UNTIL RESCUE.

FINALLY, SPENCER WYN, WHO WAS THE GAME WARDEN, AND BROUGHT IN HIS BOAT WITH THE HELP OF ROSCOE MYERS TO GET A COUPLE OFF THE CAR, AND THEN CAME BACK AND GOT THE RESCUE SQUADS MAN OUTTA THE TREE.

THE SECRET TO THIS OPERATION WAS A BOAT REALIZING THE DESPERATION NEED FOR BOATS AND OTHER WATER RESCUE EQUIPMENT IN THE COUNTY.

FIRE CHIEF EARL HENLEY INSTRUCTED COUNTY RESCUE CAPTAINS, JAY PROFIT AND BEN JOHNSON TO FIND A SUITABLE BOAT AND PURCHASE IT.

AND THAT'S HOW THE, THE WATER RESCUE TEAM GOT STARTED.

AND WE'VE HAD A WATER RESCUE TEAM ALL THESE YEARS.

UM, THE LIFE OF THE WATER RESCUE TEAM OVER THE MANY YEARS WOULD HAVE TO CREDIT, WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE LATE, UH, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF TUCKER HILL.

THAT WAS HIS PASSION WITH THE ORGANIZATION.

ONE OF MANY, BUT CERTAINLY, UM, CERTAINLY WATER RESCUE.

SO I'LL TAKE YOU BACK TO, UM, THE, THE WEEKEND THAT STARTED OFF THE SUMMER THERE AT MEMORIAL DAY HERE IN THE COUNTY.

IF YOU RECALL, UH, THE JAMES RIVER WAS, UH, VERY HIGH.

THE JAMES RIVER WAS RUNNING ALMOST, UH, 12 FEET, UH, THAT WEEKEND.

UH, NORMALLY THE JAMES RIVER RUNS ANYWHERE FROM

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ONE TO TWO FEET AT CARTERSVILLE.

IT MAY BE CLOSE TO THREE TODAY IT'S JUST RUNNING JUST UNDER THREE FEET THAT WEEKEND.

UH, BE IN A, A HOLIDAY WEEKEND AND LOTS OF RECREATIONAL TRAFFIC ON THE JAMES RIVER.

WE ASSUMED THAT OUR SERVICES, UH, MAY BE NEEDED.

AND SO WE ACTUALLY STEPPED UP, UH, OUR SERVICES AND ACTUALLY SENT A CREW DOWN TO THE MAIDENS BOAT LANDING AND, AND TRIED TO CONTACT CITIZENS AND EXPLAINED TO THEM THE DANGERS OF GETTING IN THE WATER BECAUSE THE WATER WAS UNUSUALLY HIGH, VERY MUDDY.

THE CURRENT WAS VERY DANGEROUSLY SWIFT AND THERE WERE LOTS OF DEBRIS FLOATING DOWN THE RIVER, LARGE TREES IN SOME CASES AND, AND OTHER THINGS, UH, CREATING STRAINERS, UH, IN THE WATER THAT CAN ACTUALLY DROWN A PERSON.

THE, UH, CREW, UH, SPENT THE, SPENT THE AFTERNOON AND MORNING THERE TALKING TO THE FOLKS IN THE BOAT LANDING.

AND BY THREE O'CLOCK WE WERE GETTING WATER RESCUE CALLS, UH, ALL TOGETHER THAT WEEKEND.

WE HAD EIGHT RESCUES, UH, THROUGHOUT, UH, SUNDAY AND THEN INTO MONDAY WHERE WE RESCUED EIGHT PEOPLE FROM THE JAMES RIVER, INCLUDING, UH, ONE PET.

I'LL TELL YOU THAT THE, UH, THE ENTIRE WATER RESCUES TEAM IS TO BE COMMENDED FOR WHAT THEY DID THAT WEEKEND.

UH, ALL OF THE, UH, PERSONNEL HOURS AND IT TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT WENT INTO THAT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE SUCCESSFUL OPERATIONS.

BUT THERE WAS ONE RESCUE IN PARTICULAR OUTTA THE EIGHT THAT ROSE TO A A NEW LEVEL.

AT THIS TIME.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, TO ASK, UH, FIREFIGHTER MORGAN KINGSTON TO COME FORWARD WITH DEPUTY CHIEF MIKE WATKINS AND BATTALION CHIEF BLAKE MARKY.

SO, KEEP IN MIND, ON THAT DAY, WE HAD ALREADY COMPLETED, UH, FOUR RESCUES AT THE PAAN STATE PARK.

WE HAD TRAVELED UPSTREAM AND THERE WAS, THERE WAS AN ENTIRE PARTY ON INTER TUBES THAT WERE CAUGHT IN THE TREES IN THE SWIFT WATER THERE AT PTAN STATE PARK.

WE MADE THOSE RESCUES.

UH, WE CAME BACK TO THE MAIDEN'S BOAT LANDING WITH OUR BOATS DEBRIEFED THAT CALL.

AND THEN ABOUT AN HOUR LATER, THE WATER RESCUE TEAM, VIRGINIA STATE POLICE, HELICOPTER MED FLIGHT ONE AND PTAN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE WERE DISPATCHED BACK TO THE JAMES RIVER, TO THE PTAIN STATE PARK FOR AN ADULT IN DISTRESS THAT WAS HANGING IN THE TREES WITH NO PFD AND COULD NOT SWIM.

FURTHER INFORMATION REVEALED THAT THE PERSON WAS ON AN INTER TUBE ATTEMPTING TO FLOAT THE RIVER WHEN THEY WERE CAUGHT INTO CAR AND, AND SWEPT INTO A LOW LION TREE THAT WE REFER TO AS A STRAINER.

UH, SOMETHING THAT TRAPS THE PERSON CAN WASH THEM DOWN AND DROWN AND CAUSE A PERSON TO DROWN.

THE REST OF HER PARTY WAS DISCONNECTED FROM HER.

THEY CONTINUED DOWNSTREAM IN THE SWIFT CURRENT AND THEY WERE UNABLE TO HELP.

BOAT 6 0 5, 6 0 1 AND 6 0 2 LAUNCHED AT MAIDEN AND TRAVEL UPSTREAM BOAT 6 0 5 AND 6 0 1 REACHED THE VICTIM IN RECORD TIME, FINDING HER IN DISTRESS FATIGUE AND PANICKING AFTER LOSING SIGHT OF THE VICTIM GOING UNDERWATER, AND WITHOUT HESITATION FOR HIS OWN SAFETY FIREFIGHTER MORGAN KINGSTON, ALSO A SWIFTWATER OPERATIONS LEVEL TECHNICIAN LEFT FROM BOAT FIVE INTO THE WATER, PULLING THE VICTIM BACK UP TO THE WATER SURFACE, AND THEN SAFELY INTO BOAT 6 0 1.

THE CURRENT WAS SO SWIFT AT PITA STATE PARK.

THE DECISION WAS MADE TO TRANSPORT THE VICTIM BACK TO THE MAIDEN'S BOAT LANDING WHERE SHE COULD BE REJOINED WITH HER, HER PARTY.

I RECEIVED A, A, A CALL FROM LIEUTENANT ANDREWS THAT AFTERNOON WHO, WHO BASICALLY BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION.

DEPUTY CHIEF GORDON WAS ACTUALLY THE INCIDENT COMMANDER ON THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT.

AND THIS IS, THIS IS DEFINITELY HAS RISEN TO THE LEVEL OF A LIFE SAVE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THIS TO CHIEF WATKINS TO PRESENT TO FIREFIGHTER KINGSTON.

AND I'D LIKE TO READ YOU WHAT THIS GMAN COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FIRE SERVICE SERVICES, A FIRE RESCUE LIFE SAVE AWARD, PRESENTED TO FIREFIGHTER MORGAN D KINGSTON COURTHOUSE COMPANY FIVE, A SHIFT FOR THE SUCCESSFUL APPLICATION OF FIRE AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES PROCEDURES ON MAY 29TH, 2022.

ON THIS DAY, YOU RESPONDED AS PART OF THE WATER RESCUE TEAM TO INCIDENT 22 0 5 2 9 0 0 FOR A WATER RESCUE IN THE JAMES RIVER AND NEAR PTAN STATE PARK.

ON THIS DAY, THE RIVER WAS RUNNING 12 FEET AT FLOOD STAGE.

A PERSON WHO COULD NOT SWIM WAS REPORTED TO BE CAUGHT IN THE TREE IN THE WATER AND WAS NOT WEARING A LIFE JACKET WHILE AFFECTING THE BOAT RESCUE WITHOUT HESITATION, YOU LEAP FROM BOAT 6 0 5 INTO THE MUDDY SWIFT CARRY OF THE JAMES RIVER SWIMMING FOR AND RESCUING THE VICTIM WHO WAS AN OBVIOUS DISTRESS CAUGHT IN A STRAINER WHO WENT UNDERNEATH THE WATER WHILE TRYING TO GRAB FOR A FLOTATION BASE THAT WAS BEING THROWN.

YOU REACHED THE VICTIM, SECURED THE FLOTATION DEVICE, AND ASSISTED THEM SAFELY INTO THE BOAT, SAVING THEIR LIFE.

YOU'RE SELFLESS AND COURAGEOUS ACTIONS RESULTED IN SAVING A LIFE.

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SO WE ALSO PLAN AT A, AT A FUTURE TIME, UH, WITH THE FIRE RESCUE FUNCTION TO AWARD A UNIT CITATION TO THE WATER RESCUE TEAM FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DID, UH, THAT WEEKEND.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO FIREFIGHTER KINGSTON FOR THE GREAT JOB THAT HE DID.

OKAY, UM, SO WE, SO WE HAVE SUBMITTED THE REPORT AHEAD OF THE, UH, BOARD MEETING, AND CERTAINLY I HAVE A FEW, UH, HIGHLIGHTS TO, UH, TO MENTION AND THEN CERTAINLY ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

IT'S A BUSY TIME FOR FIRE RESCUE.

UH, WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE IN CALLS.

UH, OUR CALLS ARE UP TODAY BY 17% BASED ON WHETHER THEY WERE LAST YEAR AT THE EXACT SAME TIME.

UH, JULY WAS ONE OF OUR TOP BUSIEST, UH, MONTHS EVER FOR ALAN TRANSPORTS.

UM, AND WE ALSO SAW THE SAME THING WITH CALLS IN GENERAL 405, UH, INCIDENTS IN JULY COMPARED TO 344 LAST, LAST JULY, 2021.

I'D LIKE TO, UH, LET YOU KNOW THAT THE DEPARTMENT WAS RECOGNIZED AGAIN WITH AN AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION MISSION LIFELINE AWARD.

THIS AWARD WAS A SILVER PLUS AWARD, WHICH IS, UH, BASED ON OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER CARDIAC CARE TO FOLKS WHO ARE HAVING HEART ATTACKS AND STROKES.

UH, IT HAS TO DO WITH, UH, SENDING THE RIGHT RESOURCES, GETTING THE CALL, EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCHED, UH, GET THE ASPIRIN ONBOARD AHEAD OF TIME IF IT'S A HEART ATTACK.

AND THEY FIT THE CRITERIA AS WELL AS ARRIVING ON THE SEA IN A TIMELY MANNER AND DOING THE 12 LEAD EKG AND GETTING THAT INTO THE, THE HOSPITAL ACTIVATING THE CATHETERIZATION LAB.

UM, THIS IS TRULY A, UH, A TEAM RECOGNITION.

IT TAKES, UH, EVERYONE IN THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT, ALSO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, THE EMERGENCY 9 1 1 DISPATCHERS, UH, TO DO THEIR JOB IN ORDER TO BE ELIGIBLE, UH, FOR THIS TYPE OF RECOGNITION BY THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION.

I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR PRIMARY, UH, MEDEVAC RESOURCE, VIRGINIA STATE POLICE, MS. MED FLIGHT ONE, UM, THEY ARE EXPERIENCING PILOT SHORTAGES AND THEY HAVE REDUCED THEIR SERVICES HOURS.

UH, HOURS ARE REDUCED FROM, UH, MIDNIGHT TO EIGHT IN THE MORNING, WHERE THE PROGRAM BOTH IN RICHMOND AND ALSO IN ABINGTON, UH, IS OUTTA SERVICE.

I KNOW THE STATE POLICE IS ACTIVELY, UH, RECRUITING PILOTS TO GET THE OPERATION BACK TO 24 7.

UH, I JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE, UH, FULL SUPPORT FOR THE VIRGINIA STATE POLICE AND HOPE THEY CAN, UH, GET THE PROGRAM OP REOPENED 24 HOURS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

UH, IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE, UH, TAKEN A LOOK AT THE AIR MEDICAL RESOURCES THAT THAT CAN SERVE GOLAND COUNTY, UH, INCLUDING LIFE EVAC FROM VCU PEGASUS AND HCA AIR CARE EAGLE THAT WILL BE CALLED, UM, IN, DURING THE TIMES WHEN MEDLIGHT IS, IS NOT AVAILABLE OUT OF SERVICE THIS COMING WEEKEND.

UH, AUGUST THE FIFTH THROUGH THE SEVENTH IS THE VIRGINIA TAX FREE WEEKEND FOR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS ITEMS. SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO, UH, CREATE AN EMERGENCY KIT, THAT THREE DAY SUPPLY THAT FEMA RECOMMENDS THAT YOU HAVE ON HAND FOR NATURAL UH, DISASTERS AND EMERGENCIES, UH, THIS WILL AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUY THOSE ITEMS, UH, POSSIBLY TAX FREE.

UH, IT ALSO IS WORTH MENTIONING THAT IF YOU HAVE A KIT THAT SOMETIMES THOSE ITEMS DO EXPIRE, SO YOU HAVE TO UPDATE THEM PERIODICALLY.

THE COVID POSITIVITY RATE IS, UH, IS STILL UP.

IT'S ALMOST 23% AS OF TODAY.

UH, AND THE HOSPITALS ARE STILL FULL IN MANY CASES.

UH, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE LONG WAIT TIMES, UH, TAKING PATIENTS INTO THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS.

UH, PATIENT WAITS ON THAT STRETCHER, UH, WHILE THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT STAFF IS DOING ALL THEY CAN TO TREAT THE FOLKS WHO ARE ALREADY THERE, AS WELL AS TO FIND A BED FOR THE PATIENT THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN.

UH, PLEASE KNOW THAT THE CRITICAL PATIENTS DO MOVE TO THE FRONT OF THAT PROCESS, UH, SO THAT THEY, THEY GET, UH, CARE IMMEDIATELY IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UH, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IN GLAND COUNTY SCHOOLS.

UH, WE DID AN, A SUCCESSFUL TACTICAL EMERGENCY CASUALLY CARE CLASS, UH, THE END OF JUNE, UH, WHERE WE TRAINED FOR THE, THE UNTHINKABLE, THE, THE ACTIVE THREAT TYPE SITUATION THAT COULD OCCUR, UH, IN ANY PUBLIC BUILDING OR CERTAINLY THE SCHOOLS.

UH, THAT WAS A LONG WEEKEND, UH, FRIDAY NIGHT CLASS, ALL DAY SATURDAY, ALL DAY SUNDAY.

WE HAD MANY PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE AS ROLE PLAYERS.

UH, MR. CARPENTER ACTUALLY, UH, PARTICIPATED AS A ROLE PLAYER, WHICH WE REALLY APPRECIATED.

WE MOLAR, UH, THE FOLKS AND WE MADE THE SCENARIOS AS REALISTIC AS POSSIBLE.

AND AGAIN, UH, WANNA THANK SHERIFF CREASEY AS WELL AS, UH, DR.

RAYLEY AND ALL OF THE INSTRUCTORS FROM FROM THE GROUP THAT TAUGHT THE CLASS.

RECENTLY, THE CERT TEAM GRADUATED.

WE HAD SEVEN MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY GRADUATED, UH, FROM THE CERT CERT, UH, CLASS THAT WAS JUST, UH, HELD THAT ROBIN HILLMAN DID.

I WAS GONNA MENTION ALSO HOW THANKFUL WE ARE FOR THE MEDIAN BREAK IN FRONT OF COMPANY ONE.

UM, WE ARE ALSO BRINGING IN NEW MEMBERS,

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BOTH VOLUNTEERS, AND WE'RE MAKING CONDITIONAL JOB OFFERS TO FILL A VACANT POSITIONS, UH, FOR THE CAREER, UM, SIDE OF THE DEPARTMENT.

JUST WANNA MENTION THAT ON THE EVENING, SATURDAY EVENING OF OCTOBER THE EIGHTH AT THE BACK PARKING LOT OF GUC HIGH SCHOOL, WE ARE PLANNING FOR A FIRE RESCUE SHOW.

THIS WILL BE A FAMILY, UH, FUN EVENING OF FIRE RESCUE DEMONSTRATIONS, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC.

AND WE'RE GETTING THAT ALL TOGETHER NOW.

YOU'LL SEE MORE ADVERTISEMENT ABOUT THAT GOING FORWARD.

IF THERE'S EVER A CITIZEN IN THE COUNTY THAT NEEDS A SMOKE ALARM, THEN WE, UH, CERTAINLY HAVE THOSE AT NO COST.

AND WE ALWAYS WANNA SAY THAT WE, WE RECRUIT FOR VOLUNTEER PERSONNEL YEAR ROUND EVERY DAY.

AND IF THEY'RE MEMBERS WHO WANNA JOIN THE ORGANIZATION, UH, THEN WE CERTAINLY NEED MORE VOLUNTEERS.

AND WITH THAT, UM, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

BOARD REPORT.

I DON'T HAVE A A QUESTION, BUT I DO HAVE A, A COMMENT.

I THINK, I THINK WHEN I GOT ON THE BOARD, THERE WERE DOZENS OF DRY HYDRANTS THAT WEREN'T FUNCTIONAL.

AND I SAW IN YOUR REPORT THIS YEAR THE ANNUAL TESTING OF THE DRY HYDRANTS.

AND AS SOMEBODY WHOSE DISTRICT RELIES COMPLETELY ON THOSE TYPES OF HYDRANTS FOR WATER SUPPLIES, I THINK THAT IS FANTASTIC.

AND THE PROGRESS WE'VE MADE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND GETTING THEM UP TO SPEED, GETTING THEM FUNCTIONAL AND, AND USABLE IS, IS FANTASTIC.

SO, WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT.

COMMON IN, IN A RURAL AREA, THERE'S DRY HYDRANTS ARE CRITICAL TO WATER SUPPLY FOR, FOR FIRES WITH, WITH NO PUBLIC OR COUNTY FIRE HYDRANTS.

UH, A LOT OF THE CREDIT GOES TO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ALLOW THEIR LAKES AND PONDS AND STREAMS TO BE ACCESSIBLE, UH, FOR THAT PURPOSE.

UH, JUST OVER THE WEEKEND, ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE DRY HYDRANTS ON THE LIST WAS, WAS REPAIRED AND PAID FOR IN FULL BY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.

AND SO WE BROUGHT EVEN ANOTHER ONE IN THE WEST, IN THE COUNTY BACK ONLINE.

UM, SOME OF THE DRY HYDRANTS.

UH, IN RECENT YEARS I'VE BEEN REPLACED WITH COUNTY FIRE HYDRANTS, WHETHER ONCE WAS NO COUNTY WATER, ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A FIRE HYDRANT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ONE OF OUR DRY HYDRANTS.

AND SO SOME OF THOSE, UH, WE ACTUALLY TOOK OUTTA SERVICE BECAUSE OF, UH, COUNTY WATER IS ALREADY THERE.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, IN SOME CASES, UH, THAT LOTS OF SEDIMENT IN THE PONDS, BUT WE STILL HAVE OVER OVER 60, UH, FUNCTIONING DRY HYDRANTS ACROSS THE COUNTY.

AND WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY IF SOMEONE HAS A, A POND OR A LAKE OR STREAM AND THEY'D LIKE TO TALK TO US ABOUT DRY HYDRANTS.

AND WE'D BE GLAD TO, TO SEE IF THE, UH, AREA IS SUITABLE FOR ONE.

WE ALWAYS COULD USE MORE OF THOSE.

THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT.

YOU BET.

JUST THANK YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

AND TODAY WAS JUST A TESTAMENT OF MEDICATION AND HEROIN AND THAT YOU GUYS PERFORM ON A DAILY BASIS, SO THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND HATS OFF TO ALL THE FIRE RESCUE MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT, SO FOR DOING A GREAT JOB.

MR. LUKINS WANTS TO NO, I WAS JUST GONNA THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.

AND, AND, UM, OCTOBER 8TH YOU SAID WILL BE? YES, SIR.

GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, SHEFA DYSON, HR DIRECTOR.

OCTOBER THE EIGHTH.

AND I WAS, I WAS SORRY TO HEAR THAT MED FLIGHT NEEDS PILOTS.

I WAS HOPING MAYBE THEY NEEDED NURSE FLIGHT NURSES.

UM, IF THEY EVER DO, LET ME KNOW.

I KNOW SOME WELL, YOU, I, I KNOW A GOOD ONE ALSO, AND I THINK WE KNOW THE SAME PERSON THAT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD AT THAT.

UH, SO, SO I THINK THE REAL QUESTION IS, WILL WE BE EXPECTING TO SEE A HELICOPTER IN NEXT C I P REQUESTS, ? UH, NO SIR.

UH, NOT, NOT AT ALL.

BUT, UH, WE WOULD JUST ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FROM MED FLIGHT TO GET REINSTATED FOR TO 24 HOUR SERVICES.

ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO SUPPORT THE STATE POLICE, THAT WOULD BE THE REQUEST.

SO THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

OKAY, NEXT WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES, SHEFA DYSON, TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW STAFF THAT WE HAVE COMING ON BOARD.

[3. 5444: Introduction of New County Staff]

UM, ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, I AM PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE SOME NEW HIRES FOR, UM, THE MONTH OF JULY OR LATE JUNE, UM, IN ANIMAL PROTECTION COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PARKS AND RECREATION.

ON JUNE 27TH, 2022, KENNETH JOHNSON JOINED THE DEPARTMENT OF ANIMAL PROTECTION AS A PART-TIME SHELTER ATTENDANT.

MR. JOHNSON WAS PREVIOUSLY EMPLOYED WITH CARTERS BUREAU OR CEMETERY ASSOCIATION AS A GROUNDSKEEPER ON JUNE 28TH, 2022.

DEBORAH BOYD, BECAUSE SHE JUST LOVED TO HEAR SO MUCH, UM, REJOINED US, UM, AS IN THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AS A PART-TIME ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGER.

MISS BUR RETIRED FROM THE COUNTY AS AN ENVIRONMENT MANAGER AND SEPTEMBER, 2020, AND HAS RETURNED TO ASSIST WITH VARIOUS SPECIAL PROJECTS.

ON JUNE 29TH, 2022, ADDISON WINSTON JOINED THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION AS A PART-TIME RECREATION ASSISTANT.

MISS WINSTON CAME, COMES TO GIN FROM GREENS WELL GROWERS, WHERE SHE WAS AN ASSISTANT ON BEHALF OF THE HEALTH AND FOOD AND SAFETY, THE GROWER DEPARTMENT AND THE HEAD OF PACKING CHAIN AND DEPARTMENT.

WELCOME TO GLIN COUNTY.

THANK

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YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, MISS DYSON.

UM, THE NEXT TWO REPORTS, PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND ACCOUNTS PAYABLE ARE IN YOUR PACKET.

HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE US HANDED SOMETHING BY OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY FOR, UH, APPLICATION FOR AUGUST 4TH HAS

[4. 5432: Planning and Development August Activity Report]

BEEN WITHDRAWN.

THIS WAS THE APPLICATION BY MARKEL EAGLE REQUESTING REZONING OF THE AGRICULTURAL TWO RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT WITH CRAWFORD CONDITIONS ON PONCY TRACK ROAD.

SO THAT HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT.

AND MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

QUESTION DOWN THERE.

I THINK IT WAS, WHICH ONE WAS THAT? IT'S ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

IT'S ON THE PLANET.

YEP.

SO WON'T BE HEARD ON THURSDAY, WHICH IS WHAT IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR.

BOARD REPORTS.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY UPDATES? AND SUMMER'S KIND OF SLOW.

MR. CHAIR OF RTP CHAIR? YEAH.

SLOW MR.

[6. Board Reports]

GREAT.

UM, YOU ARE .

I DID MEET WITH THE CHAIR OF PLAN RVA, AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING WITH THE CHAIR OF THE CVT A AND, AND INITIAL INDICATIONS.

WE DON'T HAVE A MEETING THIS MONTH, UH, SO THIS WEEK, SO WE'LL GET BACK STARTED SEPTEMBER.

UM, BUT, UH, YEAH, OFF TO A GOOD START.

AND I THINK I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO, THERE'VE BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE FROM THE OTHER CHAIRS TO LOOK AT WAYS OF, YOU KNOW, COORDINATING THE THREE BOARDS AND COORDINATING COMMUNICATIONS AND ALSO OTHER PROJECTS.

SO, LOOKING FORWARD TO IT, BUT NOTHING, NOTHING MAJOR TO REPORT.

AND AGAIN, WE'LL MEET IN SEPTEMBER IS OUR NEXT MEETING.

THANK YOU MR. LONGS AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR CHAIRMANSHIP.

OKAY, MR. PETERSON? YEP.

YEP.

MR. CHAIR.

UM, ON THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING, WE HAD A MEETING, UH, IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THIS MEETING.

AND, UH, WE DISCUSSED SEVERAL THINGS.

WE DID THE KICKOFF FOR THE AUDIT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR ENDED 6 30 22, UM, WHICH ENDED ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO, AND THAT'LL BE DUE ON NOVEMBER 30TH TO THE STATE IN THE PAST, UM, BOARD, WE'VE SCHEDULED A SPECIAL MEETING MID-NOVEMBER BECAUSE THEY'RE DUE ON THE 30TH OF NOVEMBER.

AND THE AUDITORS TYPICALLY DON'T FINISH THEIR WORK BY OUR EARLY NOVEMBER BOARD MEETING.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE SCHEDULED A SPECIAL TO GET IT IN ON TIME SO THERE'S NO ASTERISKS AND WE GOT IT IN LATE.

SO I, I BELIEVE THEY'RE GONNA LOOK INTO THIS, BUT I BELIEVE THEY'VE MOVED THE DATE THAT THAT'S DUE FROM NOVEMBER 30TH TO DECEMBER 15TH.

IF THAT'S TRUE.

AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE MAY NOT HAVE TO HAVE THAT SPECIAL MEETING IN NOVEMBER THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

SO THAT'S ONE CHANGE.

UM, WE ALSO DISCUSSED A COUPLE OF THE, UH, ITEMS THAT WE HAVE ON NEW BUSINESS, UH, WHICH FOLLOWS THESE REPORTS.

AND I'LL HOLD MY COMMENTS FOR THOSE UNTIL WE, UH, CONSIDER THE NEW, NEW BUSINESS ITEMS. AND THE LAST THING WAS WE DID SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, UH, THE HEADWINDS THAT MAY BE FORMING FOR, UH, THE FOLLOWING YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO WE'LL START THAT, UH, PROCESS SOON.

NOW THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. PETERSON.

UM, FOR MY REPORT, PRETTY PRETTY LIGHT AGENDA FOR THE C VTA.

UH, WE DID HAVE, HAVE OUR FIRST ELECTION AFTER OUR INAUGURAL ELECTION.

AND, UM, MR. KEVIN CAR FROM CHESTERFIELD COUNTY WAS ELECTED AS CHAIR AND, UM, MAYOR LAVA STONEY FROM THE CITY OF RICHMOND WAS ELECTED AS VICE CHAIR.

SO THOSE WERE THE BIG, UM, ITEMS COMING OUTTA THE CBTA.

ITEMS IN THE CONSENT AGENDA BOARD.

WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. SO WE'RE JUST MOVING, WE'RE CRUSHING THIS.

UM, MR. CARPENTER WILL READ EACH OF THE, UH, THE

[XI. Consent Agenda]

THEN WE WILL DECIDE IF WE WANT TO, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO TAKE THEM AS A GROUP OR INDIVIDUALLY.

SO I'LL TURN OVER TO MR. CARPENTER, UH, MR. GENERAL MEMBERS, THE BOARD.

WE HAVE TWO ITEMS TODAY ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

THE FIRST ITEM IS A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING A SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECT FUNDING.

THIS WOULD BE A RESOLUTION THAT THE BOARD WOULD SUBMIT TO, UH, THE SMART SCALE SHOWING ITS APPROVAL AND ITS SUPPORT FOR A RE UH, REQUESTED RELOCATION OF FUNDS TO, UH, GO TOWARDS THE, UH, APPROVED PROJECT AT THE I 64 INTERCHANGE.

UH, THE SECOND RESOLUTION AMENDS THE FISCAL YEAR, UH, COUNTY BUDGET.

UH, IT APPROPRIATES $75,000 IN THE COUNTY GENERAL FUND AND 121,000 IN THE SOCIAL SERVICES FUND.

THE $75,000 WOULD GO TOWARDS COSTS THAT WERE INCURRED IN THE PARKS AND CREATION DEPARTMENT.

UH, THOSE COSTS WERE OVER, UM, OVERSHADOWED BY THE INCREASE IN REVENUE AS WELL.

AND THE 121,000 IN SOCIAL SERVICES FUND WAS AN UNBUDGETED AMOUNT THAT WENT TOWARDS EXPENDITURES THAT WERE APPROVED BY THE BOARD EARLIER.

UH, THE FUNDING WOULD COME FROM GRANT FUNDS.

THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED NO, NO CHANGE IN THE BOTTOM LINE TO THE BUDGET FOR EITHER ONE OF THESE.

THANK YOU, MR. CARPENTER BOARD.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR QUESTIONS? OKAY.

SO, MR.

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CHAIRMAN, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA AS PRESENTED.

UH, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

ANY DISCUSSION? UM, ALL I WOULD SAY IS JUST FOR, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE HERE OR, OR WATCHED THE MEETING FROM LAST MONTH, YOU'D KNOW THAT GIN COUNTY WAS AWARDED SEVERAL PROJECTS.

UH, SOME OF THE PROJECTS WERE FULLY FUNDED, HOWEVER, OTHER PROJECTS, UH, IT WAS DOLLARS TO GO TOWARDS OUR SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS.

SO SMART SCALE.

THE STATE LOOKS AT, AND WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING A LOT ABOUT TRANSPORTATION TODAY.

I THINK.

UM, THE STATE TALKS ABOUT, UM, HOW THESE PROJECTS GET APPROVED, AND ONE OF THE WAYS IS THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THAT LOCALITIES CAN BRING TO HELP MATCH OFF OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS.

SO, UH, THEY WANNA THANK STAFF FOR WORKING THESE APPLICATIONS.

WE'VE, WE'VE, UH, BEEN, UH, VERY SUCCESSFUL THIS YEAR DUE TO OUR, OUR NEW STAFF AND, AND HOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THESE APPLICATIONS.

AND I ALSO WANNA THANK VDOT FOR WORKING WITH US TO FILL OUT SOME OF THESE APPLICATIONS AND HELP US TO UNDERSTAND THE BEST WAY TO, UH, TELL THE, THE ACTUAL PICTURE SO THAT IT COULD BE THE, THE IMPACT OF THESE PROJECTS CAN BE FULLY SEEN.

SO JUST WANT TO CALL THOSE FOLKS OUT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION, MS. CHAIRMAN? YES, MA'AM.

UM, WITHOUT GETTING, AND I KNOW IT CAN GET EXTREMELY COMPLICATED WITHOUT GETTING TOO FAR INTO WEEDS, WHAT, WHAT IS THE NATURE OF OUR APPLICATION FOR I 64 AND ROUTE 6 23 CURRENT? SO THAT ACTION, ASH, WHAT IS OUR APPLICATION FOR? YOU'RE OPENING THE CAN OF WORMS. UM, SO WE HAVE DECIDED TO, I THINK I, COME ON UP.

MS. HUNTER, YOU'RE GONNA STAY BETTER THAN I WILL.

GOOD AFTERNOON, JOANNE HUNTER, UH, DR.

UM, THE APPLICATION THAT WILL WAS FILED FOR THE SMART SCALE APPLICATION WAS FOR A FOUR LANE DDI.

ALL THANK YOU.

THAT'S ONE NEED TO HEAR.

I ACTUALLY COULD HAVE PROBABLY SAID THAT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I WANTED YOU TO GET HER QUESTIONS RATHER THAN ME AFTERWARDS.

BOARD, YOU HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

TINY CAN OF WORDS.

THIS CAN BE VOICEFUL, RIGHT? SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, THE CONSENTED AGENDA, ITEMS AS PRESENTED, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I, I, I, I.

OPPOSED.

DYSON TO TALK ABOUT THE SALARY BENCHMARK STUDY.

CONSENT AGENDA PASSES.

MOVING ON INTO NEW BUSINESS, AND WE WILL WELCOME BACK MS. SHELI

[XII. New Business]

GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN SO SOON, .

UM, SO YEAH.

SO I AM HERE TODAY TO, UM, GO INTO THE BENCHMARK STUDY.

UM, SO AS YOU GUYS KNOW THAT WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED A PROCESS, UM, WE HAD SOME COUNTY STAFF THAT KIND OF HELPED PUSH US ACROSS THE FINISH LINE WITH THE, UM, BENCHMARK STUDY.

SO TODAY WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE CONSULTANT FROM, UM, EVERGREEN, STACEY WIL SHELL, WHO'S ACTUALLY GONNA GIVE THE OVERVIEW OF THE BENCHMARK AND WHERE WE STAND AT THIS POINT.

SO I CAN BRING HER UP NOW.

CLICK THIS.

ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA JUST CUZ THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TODAY.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, MY NAME'S STACY WEEL WITH EVERGREEN SOLUTIONS AND WE DID YOUR CLASS IN CALM STUDY FOR THE COUNTY.

STARTED THAT EARLIER THIS YEAR.

AND, UH, WE'LL WALK YOU THROUGH THE FULL PROJECT HERE AND, AND BRING YOU ONTO THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY? OKAY.

I'M BAD ABOUT WANDERING WHEN I TALK, SO I'LL, I'LL TRY TO STAY RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF THE MICROPHONE.

SO THIS, THIS PRESENTATION WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THE STUDY.

SO WE'LL REMIND EVERYBODY WHAT THE STUDY GOALS WERE, WHAT THE PROJECT PHASES WERE, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY BRING YOU TO THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO FOR THE STUDY GOALS FOR THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TOOK A GOOD LOOK AT THE CURRENT PLAN, HOW IT'S BEING USED, IDENTIFY IF THERE'S ANY AREAS OF CONCERN, ANY COMPRESSION INEQUITIES INTERNALLY TO LOOK AT YOUR PLAN IN COMPARISON TO MARKET PEERS TO SEE WHERE DO YOU STAND COMPETITIVELY, ARE YOU IN LINE WITH MARKET PEERS? HAVE YOU FALLEN BEHIND? ARE YOU LEADING THE MARKET? AND THEN ULTIMATELY TAKE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, ALL OF THAT DATA, AND THEN PRODUCE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU THAT GIVE YOU A PLAN THAT FIT YOUR NEEDS RIGHT NOW THAT ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS.

AND THAT ALSO IS FLEXIBLE ENOUGH MOVING FORWARD THAT YOU DON'T OUTGROW THIS PLAN IN WITHIN TWO YEARS TIME.

AND I SPENT 24 YEARS IN PUBLIC SECTOR SERVICE.

SO I WILL ALSO ALWAYS SAY WE WANNA PUT FORWARD A PLAN THAT IS FISCALLY SUSTAINABLE.

OKAY? NOW OUR PROJECTS ARE KIND, THEY GO THROUGH PHASES AND NOW THESE PHASES ARE NOT DISTINCT, LIKE THESE KIND OF RECTANGLES UP HERE ON THE BOARD.

THEY'RE, THEY OVERLAP AND, AND HOW THEY KIND OF MOVE FORWARD THERE.

IT STARTS OFF WITH THE PROJECT INITIATION,

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IT'S THAT DATA COLLECTION WHICH LEADS US TO WHAT WE CALL OUR ASSESSMENT OCCURRING CONDITIONS.

WE HAVE SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH YOUR PROJECT TEAM HERE.

WE MET WITH SOME OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, VIRTUALLY, WE DID SURVEYS OF YOUR STAFF.

WE, UM, ACTUALLY ADMINISTER ADMINISTERED IT, UM, PRETTY BROADLY.

GOT SOME GOOD RESULTS, GOOD INPUT FROM THAT TO GET INPUT FROM STAFF.

WE DID YOUR MARKET STUDY AND DID THAT ANALYSIS AND DECIDED WHERE DO YOU NEED TO BE, BE PO DID I HIT THAT? DID IT ADVANCE WITHOUT ME? OKAY.

I DECIDED WHERE YOU NEEDED TO BE WITH COMPARISON TO THE MARKET AND THEN DEVELOP THAT IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY, SOLUTION FILE, AND THEN ULTIMATELY YOUR FINAL REPORT.

NOW FOR THE SURVEY THAT WE CONDUCTED, AND I'VE GOT ALL OF THE DATA BEHIND THIS, WHICH I'VE ALREADY ALREADY SUPPLIED OVER SO YOU CAN SEE THE REST OF THE DETAILS THAT ARE IN THERE.

IT WAS AN ANONYMOUS SURVEY, BUT WE ASKED STAFF, STARTED OFF ALL THE SURVEYS, ALWAYS START OFF WITH WHAT BROUGHT YOU HERE, WHAT BROUGHT YOU TO THE COUNTY? WHAT, WHY DID YOU WANNA COME TO WORK HERE? WHY HAVE YOU STAYED? AND THEN WE GET INTO THE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONCERNS OR THINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE CHART, PEOPLE CAME HERE BECAUSE OF LOCATION.

A LOT OF YOUR FOLKS ARE FROM THE GENERAL AREA, THIS IS HOME.

UM, THEY LIKED THE BENEFITS, THE RETIREMENT PROVIDED BY THE COUNTY, THE STABILITY, ADVANCEMENT OPPORTUNITIES, THE COMPENSATION WAS ORIGINALLY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BROUGHT STAFF HERE AND THAT, BUT THAT'S ALSO, YOU'RE GONNA SEE WHERE THEY'VE GOT SOME CONCERN TOO MOVING FORWARD.

SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S KEPT THEM HERE IS THE RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAVE.

IT'S THE LEADERSHIP, IT'S THE SUPPORT THAT THEY HAVE FROM YOUR STAFF HERE.

NOW WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE CONCERN THAT CAME UP DURING THAT SURVEY, YOUR CONCERN WAS SOME PEOPLE FELT LIKE THEY WERE FALLING BEHIND PURE ORGANIZATIONS NOT AS COMPETITIVE AS THE COUNTY USED TO BE.

UM, CONCERNED WITH OR REALLY MORE THAN ANYTHING UNFAMILIAR WITH JUST COMPENSATION PRACTICES.

UM, SO JUST MAYBE AN OPPORTUNITY, SOME INTERNAL EDUCATION THERE.

UH, JOB DESCRIPTIONS NEED TO BE UPDATED.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SEE EVERYWHERE.

I CAN TELL YOU EVEN MY OWN, WE UPDATED AND WHEN I HAD TURNOVER IN A POSITION, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT CAN KIND OF GET AWAY FROM YOU.

UM, REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL CAREER PATH OPPORTUNITIES THAT WAS, UH, COMMON IN MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS.

AND THEN REQUEST TO CONSIDER ADDITIONAL FRINGE BENEFITS.

THINGS THAT WERE MENTIONED WAS LOOK AT HOW YOU USE FLEX TIME.

UM, IS MORE REMOTE WORK OR SOME KIND OF A HYBRID SCHEDULE POSSIBLE.

UM, SOMEBODY MENTIONED SOME WELLNESS CLASSES.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE WELLNESS CLASSES THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT SPOKE TO KIND OF HEALTH AND BENEFIT.

AND AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS OF SOME UNCERTAINTIES IN COVID, I THINK PEOPLE ARE REALLY FOCUSED ON THAT.

THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

NOW I MENTIONED ASSESSMENT OF CURRENT CONDITIONS.

THAT'S WHERE ALL OF OUR PROJECTS START.

AND THIS CAN BE BASED ON THAT DATA THAT WAS COLLECTED THE 1ST OF MARCH.

SO THAT'S OUR SNAPSHOT IN TIME.

AT THAT POINT WE HAD 280 EMPLOYEES THAT WERE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE STUDY.

YOU HAD 136 CLASSIFICATION TITLES THAT WERE BEING USED.

UH, TWO DIFFERENT PAY PLANS.

YOU HAD A GENERAL EMPLOYEE PLAY PLAN, PAY PLAN AND THE SHARE PAY PLAN.

AND YOU HAD 27 PAY GRADES WITH THE GENERAL RANGE SPREADS ABOUT 60% MIDPOINT, PROGRESSION ABOUT SEVEN ON THE SHERIFF'S SIDE, 21 PAY GRADES RANGE SPREAD ABOUT 78% MIDPOINT PROGRESSION FIVE.

AND THAT WAS A 30 STEP SYSTEM AS OPPOSED TO THE OPEN RANGE OF THE GENERAL.

SO IN LOOKING AT YOUR PLAN, WE FOUND THAT IT GENERALLY FOLLOWS BEST PRACTICES.

IT'S WELL STRUCTURED, IT'S WELL ORGANIZED.

UM, THE, THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE FOUND IS YOU HAD JUST SLIPPED SOME AND, AND COMPETITIVE LEFT COMPETITIVENESS WITH THE MARKET.

AND WE'LL SEE THAT ON THE MARKET SURVEY HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.

I FOUND THAT ABOUT 94% OF YOUR EMPLOYEES WERE COMPENSATED BELOW MIDPOINT.

UM, THAT'S A REFLECTION TYPICALLY OF, OF MORE TURNOVER.

AND I THINK A LOT HAVE SEEN A LOT MORE TURNOVER DURING THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

I DID SEE THAT YOU HAD SALARY CLOSELY TIED WITH TENURE.

SO AS PEOPLE WERE HERE LONGER, THEY WERE FURTHER ALONG IN THOSE PAY GRADES AND COMPRESSION WITHIN, WITHIN PAY GRADES WAS FOUND TO BE MINIMAL.

I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THREE PAY GRADES WHERE WE SAW SOME COMPRESSION, BUT NOT VERY MUCH.

SO GOOD JOB WITH YOUR, WITH YOUR CURRENT PLAN FOR THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH HR TERMS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN COMPRESSION? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

SO COMPRESSION, WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

THE ONE I WAS REFERRING TO THERE, WE WERE LOOKING AT, SET THAT DOWN, GONNA TALK BOTH HANDS.

WE WERE LOOKING AT WHERE PEOPLE ARE IN RELATION TO EVERYBODY ELSE.

THAT COMPRESSION WAS LOOKING AT, HAS SOMEBODY BEEN HERE 10 YEARS AND SOMEBODY HERE ONE YEAR, ARE THEY PAID THE SAME? SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AND WE FOUND VERY LITTLE OF THAT IN YOUR CURRENT SYSTEM.

WE ADMINISTERED SOMETHING WE CALLED THE JOB ASSESSMENT TOOL.

SO THOSE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT HERE WITH YOUR STAFF WILL REMEMBER IT.

IT'S, IT'S A LONG

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SURVEY.

IT'S ONE OF THOSE WORKFORCE SURVEYS AND IT'S GETTING AT THOSE FIVE DIFFERENT JOB FACTORS, LEADERSHIP, WORKING CONDITION, COMPLEXITY, DECISION MAKING.

IT'S ASKING THE EMPLOYEE ABOUT THEIR ROLES IN THEIR CURRENT POSITION IN RELATION TO THOSE DIFFERENT FACTORS BASED ON THEIR ANSWERS.

AND THEN THE SUPERVISORS REVIEW, WE THEN CREATE A HIERARCHY OF ALL OF YOUR CLASSIFICATIONS ALL IN RELATION TO EACH OTHER.

SO EVERYTHING FROM YOUR ENTRY LEVEL ALL THE WAY UP TO THE, TO THE TOP COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, OKAY, ALLOWS US TO CREATE A A ZERO TO A THOUSAND REALITY ABOUT 200 TO A THOUSAND.

AND, AND THAT LETS US KIND OF CREATE THAT STRUCTURE.

THAT'S A MULTI-WEEK PROCESS.

UM, WE ALLOW STAFF, I THINK WE ALLOW YOUR STAFF ABOUT TWO, THREE WEEKS TO COMPLETE THAT AND GAVE SUPERVISORS ANOTHER TWO WEEKS TO REVIEW AND PROVIDE COMMENTS ON TOP OF WE CREATE THE HIERARCHY, THEN WE GIVE IT BACK TO THE PROJECT TEAM WE WERE WORKING WITH TO REVIEW AND MAKE ANY EDITS IF NEEDED.

BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS A PAPER EXERCISE.

SO WE ASK THEM TO REVIEW TO MAKE SURE OPERATIONALLY DO WE HAVE TO MAKE ANY EDITS.

AND THEN THAT COMBINED TO THE MARKET SURVEY DATA COMBINED WITH THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD, THAT'S WHAT LETS US CREATE THE STRUCTURE FOR YOU MOVING FORWARD.

NOW YOUR MARKET SURVEY, MARKET SURVEY WAS LAUNCHED BACK IN APRIL.

WE HAD NINE PEERS THAT WE SURVEYED AS A PART OF THIS STUDY AND WE DID LOOK AT AT COST OF LIVING IN RELATION TO THAT BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SEE WHERE WE MATCH A DOLLAR FOR A DOLLAR.

OKAY? WE USED 60 OF YOUR CLASSIFICATIONS AS OUR BENCHMARKS.

SO THOSE ARE THE CLASSIFICATIONS WE TOOK TO THOSE PEERS TO MATCH THEM UP TO SEE WHAT THEIR PAY RANGES WERE.

AND WE COLLECTED A LITTLE MORE THAN 320 DATA POINTS ALTOGETHER, OKAY? AT THE MARKET AVERAGE AT THAT'S THE 50TH PERCENTILE, THE COUNTY WAS FOUND TO BE ABOUT 15% BELOW MARKET AT EACH, THAT MINIMUM THE MIDPOINT IN THE MAX.

ALRIGHT? THE CLASSIFICATIONS.

WHEN WE TAKE THOSE TO MARKET, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT A JOB TITLE TO JOB TITLE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT JOB DESCRIPTIONS TO JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

AND IF I DON'T HAVE A GOOD MATCH, THEN WE DON'T INCLUDE IT IN THE SURVEY.

SO I'VE GOT MORE DATA THAN THE THREE 20, BUT THEY WEREN'T GOOD MATCHES.

ALL RIGHT? AND I'LL ADD ALSO ONE MORE THING ONTO THAT TOO.

WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT SURVEY DATA AND WE'RE LOOKING AT SALARY DATA, IF IT'S OUTSIDE OF 40% DIFFERENTIAL FROM YOUR SALARY DATA, I ALSO DON'T EX INCLUDE THAT.

THAT'S TOO MUCH OF AN OUTLIER AND IT WILL SKEW YOUR NUMBERS ALL UNDER RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR COMPENSATION.

COMPENSATION CHANGES BASED ON BEING COMPETITIVE AT THE MARKET AVERAGE.

THAT'S WHAT WE BUILT THE PLAN FOR.

THAT'S WHERE WE WANT YOU TO BE.

WE WANNA MAINTAIN THE CONSISTENCY IN YOUR STRUCTURE.

WE WANNA ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY MOVEMENT FORWARD.

WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND THE TWO PAY PLANS, THE GENERAL PAY PLAN, AND THEN PUBLIC SAFETY PAY PLAN FOR YOUR CLASSIFICATIONS.

YOU, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS TO CREATE MORE CAREER PATH OPPORTUNITIES.

SO FOLKS IN THEIR CHOSEN FIELD HAD MORE GROWTH POTENTIAL.

THEY COULD MOVE FROM A, A ONE TO A TWO TO A THREE OR A JUNIOR TO A SENIOR TYPE POSITION.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE ONES THAT WERE CREATED AS A RESULT OF THE STUDY.

YOU'LL SEE THESE HERE, OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAD THE REQUEST ALSO.

PUBLIC SAFETY WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THEM.

SO WHAT WE WANT, WHAT WE DID IS MADE SURE IN THAT PLAN MOVING FORWARD, THERE'S FLEXIBILITY TO CREATE THEM AS THOSE EMERGING NEEDS HAPPEN.

SO YOU'VE GOT ROOM IN THERE TO DO THAT MOVING FORWARD.

AND WE'RE HERE FOR A YEAR.

SO AS THOSE CHANGES HAPPEN, THERE'S QUESTIONS ON A CLASSIFICATION, WHERE WOULD YOU SLOT THIS? WHAT WOULD THIS LOOK LIKE? WE'RE AVAILABLE TO, TO HELP PROVIDE THAT TECHNICAL SUPPORT AND INPUT.

SO YOU'RE PROPOSED, THIS IS STEP, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

LET'S JUST SAY OPEN RANGE PLAN UP TOP THERE.

THIS IS YOUR GENERAL PAY PLAN.

WE'RE GONNA MAINTAIN THAT OPEN RANGE DESIGN, 27 PAY GRADES.

SO THIS IS FOR ALL OF YOUR NON-PUBLIC SAFETY STAFF.

RANGE.

SPREADS ABOUT 70% GRADE PROGRESSION, ABOUT 6%.

SO YOU MAINTAIN YOUR CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT.

WE'VE ADJUSTED YOUR PAY RANGES HERE, THE MEN'S AND THE MAXES TO BETTER MEET MARKET CONDITIONS.

SO YOU'RE ONCE AGAIN COMPETITIVE WITH A MARKET AT THAT 50TH PERCENTILE.

YOUR PUBLIC SAFETY PLAN, 21 PAY GRADES RANGE SPREADS 70%.

THE GRADE PROGRESSION HERE VARIES.

UM, NOT SURPRISINGLY BECAUSE OF THE TYPES OF CLASSIFICATIONS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN PUBLIC SAFETY, ESPECIALLY AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THE RANKS OF FIRE, EMERGENCY RESPONSE AND POLICE, THOSE INCREASING LEVELS OF COMPLEXITIES, ROLES, RESPONSIBILITIES, RISK MANAGEMENT REQUIRE A, A BIGGER JUMP IN THOSE PAY GRADES.

UM, LOOKING AT A 25 STEP SYSTEM AND YOUR STEP PROGRESSION HERE ON AVERAGE IS ABOUT 2.2%.

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NOW, WHEN TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU CROSSWALK OVER INTO A NEW PAY PLAN, IMPLEMENT YOUR NEW PAY PLAN, WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND SCENARIOS.

THE ONE WE LANDED HERE THOUGH IS ON HIGHER YOUR PARITY, HIGHER YOUR PARITY WILL ALLOW YOU TO TRANSFER PEOPLE FROM THEIR, THEIR CURRENT PAY GRADES ONTO THE NEW ONES.

THESE ARE ALL LINEAR REGRESSION MODELS, AND IT'S LOOKING AT A 30 YEAR CAREER TRAJECTORY.

SO IT'S GONNA LOOK AT THEIR, SO YOU GOT, YOU GOT A 30 YEAR CAREER LINE.

IT'S GONNA LOOK AT THEIR CURRENT SALARIES, THEIR YEARS WIDTH OF SERVICE, LINE THEM OVER AND MATCH 'EM UP.

AND SO WHAT THIS WILL DO IS KEEP YOU FROM HAVING COMPRESSION ISSUES MOVING FORWARD.

OKAY? IF YOU JUST, THERE'S SEVERAL OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE CONSIDERED.

A LOT OF THOSE WERE GONNA PUT YOU AT A PLACE WHERE YOU WOULD'VE HAD, UM, FOLKS A LITTLE CLOSER TOGETHER THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD, ADOPT THE CLASSIFICATION CHANGES AND THE, THE PLAN AS DESCRIBED.

TRANSITION YOUR EMPLOYEES OVER TO THE NEW PROPOSED PAY PLAN.

UTILIZING THAT OPTION WE TALKED ABOUT, THE HIGHER YOUR PARODY.

UH, WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING WITH YOUR HR OFFICE TO ACTUALLY UPDATE ALL OF YOUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

AND THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM YOUR FLSA STATUS, YOUR CURRENT, YOUR NEW PAY GRADES, AND ANY OTHER UPDATES TO KSAS.

UM, CONDUCT SMALL SCALE SURVEYS MOVING FORWARD, ESPECIALLY IN THOSE AREAS.

IF YOU HAVE DIFFICULTIES HIRING OR RETAINING A CLASSIFICATION, DO A SPOT CHECK AGAINST THE MARKET.

SEE, HAVE HAS IT, HAS IT SLIPPED, HAS CONDITIONS CHANGED? CONDUCT A COMPREHENSIVE CLASS EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS IF YOU'RE DOING THOSE SPOT CHECKS ANNUALLY.

EVERY FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS SHOULD BE ALL YOU NEED FOR A FULL COMPREHENSIVE, LIKE WHAT WE DID HERE, HR DOCUMENTS, PUBLIC SECTOR DOCUMENTS.

THOSE ARE LIVING DOCUMENTS.

SO UPDATE, REVIEW, KEEP 'EM RELEVANT, MOVING FORWARD, FINALIZING TASK BASED ON ANY INPUT OR, OR COMMENTS, FEEDBACK.

WE'LL GET THAT REPORT FINALIZED, GET THAT UP TO HERE THE NEXT TWO DAYS.

PROVIDE TRAINING TO STUDY, UM, IN THE STUDY METHODOLOGY TO YOUR HR SO THEY CAN MAINTAIN THIS MOVING FORWARD.

AND THEN WORK, LIKE I SAID EARLIER ON THE JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

AND THAT IS IT.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, UH, MR. LONG, FIRST OF THE GREEN LIGHT.

AND THIS, YOUR LAST SLIDE THERE.

DID YOU COME, COME UP FROM TALLAHASSEE? I DID.

GOOD.

UM, I KIND OF HAVE MY QUESTIONS.

I JUST WROTE 'EM IN THE ORDER SO THAT SOME OF YOUR LATER SLIDES MAYBE HELP ME ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR, UH, BULLETS I HAD EARLIER.

SO I'M JUST GONNA KIND OF FOLLOW IN, IN THE ORDER.

UM, WHERE DO YOU GET THE COLL DATA FROM THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS? COST OF LIVING DATA.

WHERE DOES THAT COME FROM? THAT COMES FROM THE FEDERAL BUREAU THAT WE GET THAT FROM.

UM, WHAT DOES IT LOOK AT? COST OF, COST OF HOUSING.

I MEAN, CAUSE OBVIOUSLY, OH, SO WHAT FACTORS GO INTO IT? YEAH, SO IT IS, IT'S, IT'S HOUSING.

IT IS, UM, MEDICAL CARE, IT'S GROCERIES, IT'S ALL OF THOSE FA THEY TAKE MULTIPLE FACTORS INTO ACCOUNT, BUT PROBABLY THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENT WHEN YOU DIFFERENCE IN SOME OF THOSE THINGS.

HOUSING MAY BE BY, BY JURISDICTION.

HOUSING'S THE BIG ONE.

HOUSING REALLY IS.

SO, UM, YOU SAID, YOU SAID EARLIER IN RESPONSE TO MR. SPOON, HOWARD'S QUESTION, WHEN YOU WERE DEFINING OR EXPLAINING COMPRESSION IN THE CONTEXT, YOU SAID YOU USED IT, YOU SAID IT'S TIME, YOU SAID PERSON'S TIME WITH THE COUNTY.

SO IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY THAT HAD BEEN, YOU DIDN'T WANT THEM, YOU KNOW, CLOSE AND SALARY TO SOMEBODY THAT HAD BEEN LONGER MM-HMM.

SO THAT PROMPTED THE QUESTION.

I THINK MAYBE YOU, I THINK MAYBE IT'S ADDRESSED LATER, BUT IF I'VE WORKED FOR SOMEWHERE FOR NINE YEARS AND I COME OVER HERE TO GLAND, UM, FOR SOMEBODY AND I JOIN AND SOMEBODY'S BEEN THERE FOR 10 YEARS MM-HMM.

, I'VE, I I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ONE, THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR 10.

IT'S NOT A PROBLEM IF THEY'RE CLOSE TOGETHER.

FOR HOW YOU HIRE IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA HAVE IN PLACE, UM, DO, ARE YOU, IS THAT PART OF YOUR PROGRAM TO HELP WITH THAT? IS THAT PART OF THAT, THAT'S PART OF THE FINAL RECOMMENDATION CHAPTER IS WHEN YOU'RE BRINGING IN NEW HIRES THINGS TO CONSIDER.

IF I'M CLOSE TOGETHER WITH SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN HERE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, SOMEONE THAT'S GONNA BE YOUR COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY AND HOW YOU WANNA HIRE AND BRING PEOPLE ON, UM, I WOULDN'T SAY SOMEBODY WITH THE COUNTY THAT'S GOT 10 YEARS, SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY WITH 10 YEARS, YOU WOULDN'T BRING THEM RIGHT ON TOP OF EACH OTHER CUZ THERE'S STILL VALUE OF THE TENURE THAT THE INDIVIDUAL HAS HERE.

SO TYPICALLY WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS, LIKE WITH YOUR OPEN RANGE SYSTEM, YOU WOULD BRING THEM IN SOMEWHERE WITHIN THAT, THAT FIRST QUARTILE, BUT NOT RIGHT.

TYPICALLY ON TOP OF THE 10 YEAR PERSON.

SO THAT'S THE PHILOSOPHY YOU'RE SAYING.

SO I THINK WE HAVE JOBS THAT ARE HARD TO FILL BECAUSE OF THE, I MEAN THE FREE, HOPEFULLY FREE MARKET PLUS, I MEAN, I HOPE OUR HR DEPARTMENT HAS SOME FLEXIBILITY.

LIKE IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE ADVERTISING SOMETHING AND IT'S NOT WORKING, UM, TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO, TO MAYBE BRING IN, IF SOMEBODY HAS GREAT EXPERIENCE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND WE WANT THAT PERSON HERE BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE FILLING THE OPENING IS, YEAH.

I WOULD, I WOULD NEVER SAY PUT A PHILOSOPHY IN PLACE THAT IS VERY RIGID.

UM, I ACTUALLY, UM, IF GUIDELINES

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BECAUSE WE STILL WANNA HAVE A PLAN THAT'S GONNA GONNA GUIDE OUR HR SO THAT, SO WE CAN ALWAYS, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA ALWAYS WANT TO BE ABLE TO POINT TO SOMETHING.

THIS IS WHY I'M MAKING THE DECISION.

THIS IS, THIS IS THE COUNTY'S PHILOSOPHY AND, AND OUR, OUR APPROACH.

RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

YOU WANNA HAVE SOMETHING TO POINT TO, BUT YOU ALSO WANNA BE ABLE TO HAVE ENOUGH FLEXIBILITY TO MEET YOUR NEEDS.

EXACTLY.

SO DID YOU ASSESS THE ACCURACY OF OUR JOB DESCRIPTION? YOU WERE, WHEN YOU WERE DESCRIBING YOUR METHODOLOGY PROBABLY AROUND, I DON'T KNOW, SLIDE EIGHT OR NINE MM-HMM.

, UM, I, I JOTTED DOWN.

DID YOU ASSESS THE ACCURACY OF OUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS? BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S KIND OF A, OUR JOB DESCRIPTIONS NEED TO BE ACCURATE IF YOU'RE GOING TO, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME OF YOUR, OF YOUR WORK, PART OF THAT COMES IN FROM THAT JOB ASSESSMENT TOOL THAT WE ADMINISTER TO EVERYBODY.

UH, WE HAVE PEOPLE RESPOND TO THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES YOUR POSITION DO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS YOUR LEVEL OF DECISION MAKING? WHAT IS THE COMPLEXITY? WHAT IS WORK SAFETY, WORK COMPLEXITIES? SO YOU, AND THEN THERE'S FREE RIGHT INFORMATION BEFORE YOU RAN THIS COMPARISON TO OTHER JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

THERE'S, THERE'S OVERLAP WITH ALL OF THOSE PROCESSES THAT GO IN.

BUT OF COURSE IF ANOTHER COUNTY HAS A JOB DESCRIPTION TOTALLY MESSED UP, THEN, THEN THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE CAN'T CONTROL.

UM, YOU ADDED CLASS, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT 70 CATIONS, YOU ADDED CLASSIFICATIONS MM-HMM.

WHEN YOU DID THAT.

THAT ONE SLIDE.

IT WAS INTERESTING.

YOU HAD, YOU HAD A A I LIKED THAT.

I LIKED SOMEBODY BEING ABLE TO HAVE A CAREER PATH IS SO KEY MM-HMM.

UM, AND PARTICULARLY SAY, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO BE A LEADER, LIKE, LIKE SCHOOLS.

I WAS, I DON'T WANNA BE A PERSISTENT PRINCIPAL, BUT HOW DO I GROW IN MY CAREER? SO WHEN YOU, MY QUESTION ON THIS ONE WAS, DID YOU, AS PART OF THIS, YOU DIDN'T JUST COME UP WITH THESE, THESE LISTS HERE, BUT I HOPE YOU CHANGE JOB DESCRIPTIONS.

SOME OF THESE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE JOB DESCRIPTIONS YET THAT, THAT WE'VE SEEN CUZ THEY'RE NEWER CREATED.

SO WE'LL WORK WITH YOU GUYS AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PROJECT TO HELP WRITE THOSE.

BUT YOU'RE GONNA WANT TO HAVE A JOB DESCRIPTION.

AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE GOAL HERE IS BECAUSE THESE, THESE THINGS LIKE SENIOR AND DIRECTOR AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEIR, THEIR PATHS MM-HMM.

FROM, FROM A CURRENT EXISTING POSITION RIGHT.

FOR FOLKS TO GROW.

IS THAT THE OBJECTIVE HERE? YEAH.

AND SO YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

SO YOU'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, A COMMON ONE PEOPLE SEE A LOT OF IS EQUIPMENT OPERATOR 1, 2, 3, WHAT DIFFERENTIATES THEM? OKAY.

YOU KNOW, ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT ONE, TWO THREES OR THE, THE SENIORS VERSUS THE, THE PLANS EXAMINER.

YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENT SKILLS YOU NEED TO BE ONE VERSUS THE OTHER? SO THE MATRICES ARE SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP YOU COME UP WITH AS WELL.

YOUR NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 13.

UM, DOES A GRADE, DOES A GRADE REPRESENT A YEAR IN SERVICE? NO.

SO THESE ARE, THIS ONE IS AN OPEN RANGE SYSTEM.

SO THESE ARE YOUR PAY GRADES.

SO 1 0 1 IS YOUR ENTRY LEVEL PAY GRADE.

AND THEN AS YOU INCREASE WITH COMPLEXITIES OF THOSE CLASSIFICATIONS, THAT BRINGS YOU DOWN TO THE 1 27.

SO THERE, SO IF I COME IN AS GRADE ONE, OH, GO TO GRADE 1 0 2.

THAT'S, THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT, THAT'S SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT, RIGHT? SO THIS IS CLASSIFICATIONS ARE ASSIGNED TO A GRADE.

SO TO AVOID COMPRESSION, WE NEED TO MOVE.

UM, THAT GRADE PROGRESSION IS JUST, AGAIN, WHAT IT SAYS.

IT'S NOT A ANYTHING TO DO WITH COLA.

WE JUST MAKE THE IDEA TO AVOID COMPRESSION IS TO, WHEN WE DO A COLA ADJUSTMENT, WE JUST BE CONSISTENT ACROSS TO BE CONSISTENT.

UM, THEIR HIGHER DATE, AND IT'S LOOKING AT THEIR CURRENT SALARIES AND IT'S LINING THEM UP ON WHERE YOU WOULD ANTICIPATE THEM BEING BASED ON THOSE TWO FACTORS ALONG THAT LINE.

UM, YOU, YOU STARTED TALKING YOUR LINGO THERE WHEN YOU GOT SLIDE 15, UM, LINGO, HIGHER YEAR PARODY, LINEAR PROGRESSION MODEL MM-HMM.

UM, COULD YOU, I MEAN MAYBE I'LL JUST GET WITH, I'LL GET WITH THE MBA AFTER THIS TO HELP ME WITH PROBABLY USE THE LEAST SQUARED METHOD TO DO THE REGRESSION , SORRY, I SAID A MATH PERSON, LIKE I AM THIS, THIS STRUCK ME AS IMPORTANT, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO, DIDN'T WANT TO START THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO MUCH WHEN YOU WERE MOVING ON.

UM, BUT I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT IS, IS IT NOT? UM, IT WITH THE RECOMMENDED RANGE BASED ON HOW LONG, YEAH.

SO, SO YOU SAID THERE WERE DIFFERENT WAYS TO APPROACH THIS AND WE USED A LINEAR LINEAR, SO LINEAR REGRESSION MODEL.

LINEAR REGRESSION MODEL, WHICH IS REALLY HOW WE'RE, WE'RE ALL THE OPTIONS ARE, BUT THEN IT'S, THE PLACEMENT VARIES DEPENDING ON WHAT MODEL YOU USE.

SO THEY ARE LINEAR REGRESSION MODELS.

AND SO THINKING WAY BACK, WAY BACK TO ALGEBRA, RIGHT? UM, WAY, WAY BACK.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE, SO THE LINEAR REGRESSION MODEL IS GONNA CREEP YOU A LINE.

AND WHAT THIS ONE'S DOING IS IT'S LOOKING AT THE LENGTH OF THAT PERSON'S CURRENT CAREER,

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SO YOU'RE TAKEN TO ACCOUNT TIME AND MONEY.

AND THAT'S A PREFERRED MODEL IN MOST PUBLIC SECTOR SETTINGS? OR, OR IS IT, IF IT'S NOT JUST KIND OF GENERICALLY THE PREFERRED MODEL, WHY DID YOU PICK THIS OVER ANOTHER MODEL OVER SOME OF THE OTHER ONES? WELL, THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHERS.

HIGHER YOUR PARODY, THERE'S A, UM, COUPLE OF OTHER PARODY OPTIONS THAT WE COULD LOOKED AT AS WELL.

UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE, YOUR HR SYSTEM DOESN'T ALLOW US TO HAVE BOTH HIGHER DATE AND CLASSIFICATION DATE, SO I COULDN'T DO ANYTHING BASED ON CLASS DATE.

SO HIGHER YOUR DATE WAS REALLY THE BEST OPTION MOVING FORWARD FOR YOU GUYS TO ENSURE WITH A TRANSITION TO NEW PLAN.

WE DIDN'T CREATE COMPRESSION, WE DIDN'T WANNA BRING PEOPLE BROUGHT IN ON TOP OF EACH OTHER.

THERE ARE OTHER MODELS THAT WE COULD HAVE LOOKED AT WITH, UH, CALLED COMP RATIOS.

THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MIDPOINT.

UM, THERE'S ALSO BRING TO NEW MINIMUMS, UM, AND BRING TO NEW MINIMUM IS THE, ALL THAT IS, IS JUST IMPLEMENTING A NEW PLAN.

AND IF SOMEBODY'S ALREADY MAKING MORE THAN A MINIMUM, THEN THERE'S NO CHANGE.

AND THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE NEEDS YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE WITH THOSE SALARIES.

LAST ONE, AND THIS IS KIND OF A PHILOSOPHY.

LAST NOTE THAT I TOOK YOU, YOU SAID AT ONE POINT, I THINK IT WAS, I DIDN'T WRITE SLIDE NUMBER DOWN, BUT YOU SAID FOLKS END UP, IF YOU FOLLOWED SOMETHING THAT ENDS UP CLOSER THAN YOU, THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE THEM.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT YOU SAID SOME SOMETHING? YOU BRING SOME CLOSER, CLOSER TOGETHER THAN YOU SHOULD HAVE THEM, UH, WITH SOME OF THE OTHER MODELS TIME WISE.

SOME OF THEM WOULD HAVE CREATED THAT COMPRESSION THAT WE WERE, THAT WE WANTED TO AVOID.

GOTCHA.

AND SO YOU'RE AROUND FOR A YEAR TO HELP US.

I'M HERE FOR A YEAR AND, AND I NOTICED YOU SAID TRAINING OUR HR ON, YOU SAID TRAINING OUR HR ON, UH, IMPLEMENTATION.

, WILL WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WILL ALSO BE A GUIDE THAT, THAT SHE CAN HAND, YOU KNOW, HAND TO HER ASSISTANT? AND I MEAN, WILL, THAT'S PROBABLY, IS THAT PART OF WHAT A DELIVERABLE IS TO HELP US WITH SOMETHING THAT OUTLAST THE KNOWLEDGE OF OUR CURRENT HR DIRECTOR? YEAH.

SO THERE IS A, A FILE WE'LL PROVIDE THERE AT THE END WITH, WITH, WITH ANY AND CHANGES ANY FINAL TWEAKS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE.

IT'LL HAVE ALL YOUR NEW EMPLOYEE DATA IN THERE.

SO ALL OF THAT WILL BE UPDATED SO IT'S NO LONGER A SNAPSHOT FROM BACK IN MARCH.

AND THEN WE'LL TURN THAT OVER AND, UM, IT'S VERY SIMPLE.

I TAKE ALL OF THE, ALL THE FUSSINESS OUT OF IT.

VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD TO USE.

GOOD.

THANK Y'ALL FOR INDULGING ME WITH THE QUESTIONS OF THIS.

IS THIS, WE'RE ALL, I, I DON'T THINK I KNOW WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT, UH, THIS AND, AND IT'S MOVING US IN A, IN A NEEDED AND A GOOD DIRECTION.

AND, UH, THAT'S WHY I KNOW A LOT OF WORK'S GONE IN BEFORE.

NOW WE'RE NOW AT THE TAIL END, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT I, I JUST WANTED TO HAVE AN, AN EVEN DEEPER UNDERSTANDING AND COMFORT LEVEL WITH IT.

UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR WORK.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND LIKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU'RE WELCOME TO, TO REACH OUT, CALL OR EMAIL.

GOOD JOB, MS. UM, MR. PETERSON.

NOW YOU GOT ME GOING ON THIS SLIDE HERE, .

UM, SO YOU CREATE THE DISPERSION, YOU RUN THE REGRESSION LINE AND YOU FIND THAT THERE'S DATA POINTS ABOVE AND BELOW THE LINE.

THAT'S HOW YOU CREATE THE LINE.

AND THEN THE SUGGESTION HERE IT LOOKS LIKE IS THAT, UH, FOR FOLKS THAT MATERIALLY STANDARD DEVIATIONS BELOW THE LINE, IT WOULD BE MOVE TO THE NEXT HIGHEST STEP.

SO WHAT YOU'VE DONE THEN IS TAKEN THE DATA FROM BELOW THE REGRESSION LINE AND ELEVATED IT MORE CLOSELY TO THE REGRESSION LINE, WHICH THEN YOU CAN CREATE A NEW REGRESSION LINE BECAUSE THE ONES THAT ARE ABOVE ARE STILL ABOVE .

BUT YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT LAST PART, ARE YOU? NO.

YOU STILL WITH ME ? YEAH, I'M STILL WITH YOU.

WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE PEOPLE ABOVE? ARE YOU SUGGESTING THE ONLY WAY TO, THE ONLY WAY TO PRESERVE THAT REGRESSION LINE IS TO COLLAPSE BOTH.

IF YOU COLLAPSE ONE SIDE, YOU MOVE THE LINE.

NO, IT'S A HOLD HARMLESS APPROACH.

SO WE WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND A REDUCTION IN ANYBODY'S SALARIES.

SO YOU DO THE REGRESSION LINE, MOVE THE PEOPLE THAT BLOW UP AND THEN DISREGARD THE REGRESSION LINE FROM THEN FORWARD.

I, WELL, SO YEAH.

SO AT THAT POINT, THAT'S YOUR, IT'S JUST YOUR IMPLEMENTATION APPROACH.

BUT THEN MOVING FORWARD, NOW YOU'VE GOT YOUR PEOPLE IN, IN THE NEW PLAN, ALL THE, ALL OF THE CLASSIFICATIONS ARE SLOTTED IN THAT HIERARCHY.

AND SO THROUGH ATTRITION, AS YOU PEOPLE, AS PEOPLE EITHER TURN OVER, THEY GET PROMOTED, THEN YOU'RE GONNA CORRECT AS YOU GO FORWARD.

SO IT'S AN INITIAL LOOK, NOT A MAINTENANCE TYPE LOOK WHERE YOU'RE EXACTLY CONTINUING TO REGRESS THE LINE.

IT'S JUST YOU LOOK AT IT ONCE, ADOPT IT AND THEN, AND LEAVE IT ALONE.

LEAVE IT ALONE.

FAIR ENOUGH.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MAY I RESPOND? I ALWAYS, I KNOW.

ARE YOU GONNA BE NICE? OF COURSE.

I'M ALWAYS NICE.

UM, ESPECIALLY NICE TO MR. PETERSON.

UM, AND HE APPRECIATES IT.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SO COOL WHEN I CAN ACTUALLY, THE LAWYER, I'M A LAWYER AND I CAN HANG WITH THE MBA FINANCE GUY AND

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FOLLOW IT.

BUT I ASKED THIS, I ASKED THIS QUESTION IN SOME OF THE TWO BY TWOS.

I SAID, DID OUR ANALYSIS, UH, LEAD TO DISCOVERY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OVERPAID? AND THE ANSWER WAS YES, BUT NOT TOO MANY.

AND OF COURSE THE ALSO ANSWER WAS, WE'RE NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THAT TO YOUR ANSWER.

THAT'LL JUST WORK ITS WAY OUT OVER TIME.

UM, BUT I THINK YOU ANSWERED HIS QUESTION THAT WAS EXACTLY.

WE'RE NOT GONNA, THIS REGRESSION LINE'S NOT A, A THING THAT'S GONNA KEEP MOVING AND KEEP BITING US.

IT'S, IT'S A SNAPSHOT, RIGHT? IT'S A SNAPSHOT IN TIME SNAPSHOT AND, OKAY.

AND IT, AND IT IS HOLD HARMLESS.

UM, WE WOULD NEVER RECOMMEND REDUCTIONS IN SALARIES.

IF I DID, SURE.

NOBODY WOULD HIRE ME.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CANDER, .

UM, I HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

SO THE WORD ON THE STREET IS THAT MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE DOING SOMETHING SIMILAR MM-HMM.

, HOW IS THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU WERE DOING A RESEARCH KNOWING THAT EVERYBODY, IT'S LIKE A MOVING TARGET NOW.

CAUSE EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT THE TARGET.

EV EVERYBODY'S LOOKING AT TARGETS RIGHT NOW.

UM, IT'S, AND THEY HAVE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN REALLY, REALLY BUSY FOR THE LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF.

UM, IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD RIGHT NOW.

I WILL SAY THAT WE HAVE DONE SEVERAL OTHER STUDIES, RIGHT.

UM, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO YOU GUYS.

AND SO I CAN'T DIVULGE EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE THERE.

BUT I DO GO BACK IN AND LOOK BECAUSE THE LAST THING I WANNA DO IS PUT FORWARD A PLAN FOR YOU AND YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY BEHIND SOMETHING ELSE THAT I KNOW WE'RE DOING.

TALKING ABOUT MOVING THE LINES AND IMPLEMENTATION AGAIN, LOOKING, OH GOSH, NOW WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, THREE COUNTIES AROUND US.

THE BIG ONES JUST DID SOMETHING RIGHT.

SO THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

MY NEXT QUESTION, I DON'T, MIGHT NOT BE FOR YOU, MIGHT BE FOR MS. TYSONS.

SO THE NEXT THING ON OUR NEW BUSINESS IS TO TAKE ACTION WITH THIS AND SHOW THEM THE MONEY.

WHAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED TO STAFF? WHERE ARE WE IN THAT PROCESS? WHAT DO THEY KNOW ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THEIR SALARIES? ARE DON'T DO, DON'T KNOW.

UM, AT THIS POINT, WE ONLY COMMUNICATED WITH THE DIRECTORS, JUST GAVE 'EM A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.

UM, I ASKED THAT THEY NOT DISCLOSED IT TO STAFF TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE THIS MEETING.

WE HAVE A FORMAL COMMUNICATION VIA LETTER THAT THEY CAN HAVE FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THEY CAN USE THAT AS THEIR MEANS OF COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTH.

SO AT THIS, THIS POINT, NO TALKED TO ABOUT IT OTHER THAN JUST THE DIRECTORS.

AND, AND I THINK MR. LUMPKINS WAS GOING HERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT THIS IS MORE THAN JUST, HEY, YOU'RE GETTING A RA I'M HOPING THIS IS MORE THAN JUST, HEY, YOU'RE GETTING A RAISE.

THIS IS TALKING ABOUT CAREER PATHING AND, AND CAREER LADDERS.

AND I'M, I'M HOPEFUL THAT WE COULD PUT A WHOLE PROGRAM AROUND THIS.

SO THIS IS TO MAXIMIZE NOT JUST THE, THE DOLLAR FIGURE THAT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT ALSO THE FACT THAT, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE STAYING HERE AND MAKING THIS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN STAY AND IT COULD BE APPROPRIATELY REWARDED FOR, FOR BEING HERE.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING I WOULD SAY IS SOME OF THE MONIES THAT, WELL, ACTUALLY I'LL SAY THAT FOR THE NEXT ONE.

I'LL HAVE A FOLLOW UP.

AND THIS MAY BE FOR BOTH OF YOU.

WHAT SAY TO SOMEBODY THAT LOOKED AT THIS PROPOSAL AND SAID IT, IT, IT EMPHASIZES TENURE OVER EXPERIENCE OR EXPERTISE WITH THE, WITH THE HIGHER YOUR PARITY APPROACH FOR IMPLEMENTATION? WELL, THE WHOLE IN GENERAL.

IN GENERAL, THE WHOLE PROGRAM IN GENERAL, IT, IT EMPHASIZES TENURE AND, AND KIND OF LEAVES OUT EXPERIENCE AND, AND EXPERTISE.

UM, I WOULD SAY NO.

WE STARTED WITH THE BASELINE OF WHAT YOU CURRENTLY ARE DOING AND HOW YOU'RE CURRENTLY BRINGING PEOPLE IN AND RECOGNIZING THAT EXPERIENCE.

SO WE'RE BUILDING OFF OF THAT AND JUST CROSSWALKING TO THE NEW PLAN.

SO I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S EMPHASIZING, WE'RE JUST PLACING BASED ON THAT TIME.

PEOPLE AREN'T LOSING GROUND.

SO THAT, THAT'S HOW I WOULD ADDRESS IT.

BUT ARE YOU VALUING TENURE? ABSOLUTELY.

YOU'RE VALUING TENURE.

HOW DO WE VALUE EXPERTISE? SPENT THE PLACEMENT WHEN YOU HIRE THE HIRING PLACEMENT.

BUT THEN IN THE BEGINNING WE COUNTED, CAUTIONED US AGAINST BRINGING SOMEBODY IN AT THE SAME, THE SAME LEVEL AND CREATING, IN ADDITION TO COMPRESSION YOUR DEFINITION OF COMPRESSION, PROBABLY CREATING TENSION IN THE WORKPLACE TOO, RIGHT? IT FOR THE MOST, FOR MOST POSITIONS THAT, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS THOSE CRITICAL NEED AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION IF IT'S REALLY A CRITICAL NEED AREA, WHERE DO YOU NEED TO PLACE THEM? AND IF THE MARKET IS DRIVING THAT UP, LOOK AT WHERE YOUR PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY PLACED.

DO YOU NEED TO MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT? YEAH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANKS SO MUCH.

REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

WELL, YOU'RE WELCOME.

NOW WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH ALL THIS? SO THIS CAN'T SEEMS CAVE.

OH, THERE, SHE'S,

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THIS AND A VERY EXACT AMOUNT.

SO TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, UH, WHEN YOU WERE PLANNING YOUR FISCAL YEAR 23 BUDGET, YOU DID BUDGET FOR

[2. 5436: Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2023 Goochland County Budget by]

UM, SO THEY MUST HAVE GIVEN PRELIMINARY FIGURES, BUT WE HAVE IN OUR BUDGET THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ONE MONTH AND 2 750 $3,305.

WE HAVE IT SITTING IN A NON-DEPARTMENTAL EXPENSE CATEGORY.

AND NOW THAT THE STUDY HAS BEEN COMPLETED, WE'RE JUST ASKING TO MAKE TRANSFERS TO ALLOCATE THAT MONEY TO EACH DEPARTMENT SO THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND INCREASE THEIR SALARIES.

SO THAT IS ONE CHANGE TO THE FY 23 BUDGET.

ANOTHER THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE'VE HAD SITTING IN OUR ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE CATEGORY.

UM, GIVEN TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEY ARE WORKING ON, UM, BRINGING THEIR CAD SYSTEM UP TO DATE AND THEY'RE ESTIMATING A COST OF A LITTLE UNDER 300,000.

UM, THEY HAVE 213,000 BUDGETED RIGHT NOW, SO THEY'RE REQUESTING TO TAKE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UM, AND PUT THAT IN THEIR LINE TO SPEND AS WELL.

BOARD.

ANY QUESTIONS? MS. LASETTE? JUST ONE REAL QUICK ONE.

SO, UM, IF WE TRANS THE $553,305, WHEN WOULD THAT BE EFFECTIVE? WHEN WOULD EMPLOYEES SEE THAT IN PAYCHECKS? THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA SEE IT IN THE AUGUST 15TH PAYCHECK.

THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN HERE SOMEWHERE.

I THINK I MISSED IT, BUT THANK YOU.

YEAH, THIS, THIS IS GONNA BE EFFECTIVE AUGUST 1ST, SO THEY'LL SEE IT IN THEIR NEXT PAYCHECK IN 15TH.

, ANYONE ELSE? AND THIS DOES NOT AFFECT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS , UNFORTUNATELY IT DOES NOT.

NO, THAT'S, THAT'S, YOUR JOBS ARE PRICELESS'S, RIGHT? YEAH.

WRITE A CHECK AGAINST THAT.

UM, AND THEN AS WELL, JUST WANTED TO KIND OF, WE, WE HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR A LOT OF THIS MONEY IN OUR PREVIOUS BUDGET CUZ WE, WE RECOGNIZE WE'RE DOING THIS STUDIES, SO WE'VE SET ASIDE MONIES FOR THIS, CORRECT? YES.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

AWESOME.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.

CAN I GET A MOTION? YEAH.

MR. CHAIR? YEAH.

JUST TO CONFIRM, UM, THESE ARE ALL TRANSFERS OR APPROPRIATIONS THAT, UH, WE'RE ALREADY EITHER IN THE, IN THE BUDGET OR IN OUR ASSIGNED BALANCES FUND BALANCES.

SO THERE'S NO INCREASE IN THE OVERALL BUDGET.

UM, MR. CHAIR, UH, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED THIS RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FY 2023 GIN COUNTY BUDGET BY TRANSFERRING $753,305 WITHIN THE COUNTY GENERAL FUND AND APPROPRIATING A HUNDRED THOUSAND IN THE COUNTY C I P FUND FOR THE SHERIFF OFFICE, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, C A D CAD SYSTEM PROJECT.

AND WE AUTHORIZE TRANSFERS THAT EXCEED $7,500 AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU, MR. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I I HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT LAST YES, SIR.

LAST PART OF THAT MOTION.

I WAS LOOKING AT THE RESOLUTION AND I WAS, I THINK ISN'T THAT AN EXIST? ISN'T THAT JUST A STATEMENT OF EXISTING AUTHORIZATION? RIGHT.

THE 7,500 A STATEMENT.

SO WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING WITH YOUR MOTION THAT THAT'S JUST A STATEMENT OF EXISTING.

IF THE TRANSFER WAS BELOW 7,500, IT WOULDN'T BE BROUGHT TO THE BOARD.

THAT'S KIND WHAT I THOUGHT.

SO, I MEAN, WHEN I READ IT, AT FIRST I WAS LIKE, ARE WE MAKING ANY CHANGE TO THAT? AND, AND I TALK SINCE THESE ARE ABOVE, THAT'S NOT REALLY PART OF THE MOTION OR IT'S JUST ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE IT'S GREATER THAN 7,500.

YES, SIR.

SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, WAS THERE A SECOND? ARE YOU WAITING FOR, SO THERE, THERE WAS MS SO I HAVE A QUESTION THAT, UM, AND MR. PETERSON'S, UH, PRELIMINARY COMMENTS, UH, WHEN HE IS MAKING THIS MOTION PROMPTED IT, IT'S ALL IN THE GENERAL FUND.

I GOT THAT.

UM, IT'S COMING FROM A BUCKET WHEN I WAS READING THIS CALLED NON-DEPARTMENTAL EXPENSES.

SO WHAT IS LEFT, I'M ASSUMING THERE'S MONEY IN THAT BUCKET THAT'S IN WHAT IS LEFT IN THAT, AFTER WE TRANSFER THIS OUT, I AM PRETTY SURE GIN PUTS ALL LARGE, LIKE LUMP INSURANCE PAYMENTS.

SO, UM, OUR GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE, OUR AUTO INSURANCE, RATHER THAN SPLITTING IT OUT AMONGST EACH DEPARTMENT, THEY JUST PUT IT IN NON-DEPARTMENTAL BECAUSE IT REALLY APPLIES TO EVERYBODY.

SO HOW DO YOU KNOW WE HAVE ENOUGH IN THERE TO PULL OUT AND WE WILL, THERE, WE'RE NOT GONNA NEED TO ADD TO THAT BUCKET AS WE GO THROUGH THE YEAR.

NO, NO, WE WON'T.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

UM, THIS, THIS AMOUNT THAT WE'RE TRANSFERRING IS, UM, THE SAME NUMBER THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET.

SO THIS, IN THE F FI 23 BUDGET WHEN WE ADOPTED IT, THIS IS THE NUMBER THAT WAS SET ASIDE FOR THIS BENCHMARK STUDY.

SO, SO THAT WAS, IT'S, WE PUT IT IN THAT, IN THAT ACCOUNT JUST RIGHT.

YOU KNEW THIS WAS COMING, BUT JUST NOT WHERE IT WOULD BE ALLOCATED KNOWING THAT THIS WAS IN THE WORKS.

CORRECT? YEP.

AND IT CAME OUT VERY CLOSE TO THE ACTUAL EXPENSES.

LOOKS WORKED OUT WELL.

THOUGHT IT WAS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

PUT YOURSELF ON THE BACK.

THERE WASN'T

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ME.

LET'S GIVE BARBARA, YOU STILL TAKE THE CREDIT.

AND THEN MR. CHAIR, JUST IF I COULD, ONE MORE THING, I FOR OMITTED THIS IN MY REMARKS.

UM, THIS DOES COME BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL FROM THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION, MR. PETERSON.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND.

YOU DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ALL RIGHT, GREAT.

LET FUND BALANCE ASSIGNMENTS.

MS. CAVE, THE YEAR END FUND BALANCE PROJECTION AND FUND BALANCE ASSIGN,

[3. 5437: FY2022 Year End Fund Balance Projection and Fund Balance Assignments]

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECESSIONS.

SO ACT THAT OUT.

ALL RIGHT, WHILE I'M PULLING THIS UP, I WILL FORMALLY INTRODUCE MYSELF.

I'M CARLA CAVE, THE FINANCE DIRECTOR, FRESH HERE, TWO MONTHS IN.

BUT WITH YOU ALL, UM, ESPECIALLY ON THE UPCOMING BUDGET.

CAUSE THAT'S MY MAIN, MAIN PROJECT.

OKAY, SO LET ME PUT THIS IN FULL SLIDE SO YOU CAN SEE IT.

OKAY, SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE ENDED JUNE 30TH, A LITTLE OVER A MONTH AGO, AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT HOW WE SHAPED UP LAST YEAR.

IS EVERYBODY WITH ME ? OKAY.

SO WHEN, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, WE'RE, WE'RE MOSTLY TALKING ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND ONLY.

UM, THE, AND I WANNA SAY TO BEGIN WITH ALSO, THESE ARE CALLED PROJECTIONS BECAUSE WE DO, UH, ACCRUE OUR REVENUES AND EXPENSES THROUGH AUGUST 15TH.

SO EVEN THOUGH JUNE 30TH HAS COME AND GONE, WE STILL DON'T REALLY KNOW THE FINAL FIGURES.

UM, AND WE WILL KNOW THOSE VERY SOON.

BUT THE, THIS IS THE PROJECTION.

UH, OUR REVENUES ARE ESTIMATED TO BE A LITTLE OVER 72 MILLION, WHICH DOES COME OVER BUDGET BY FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.

UM, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, BUT EVERYBODY KNEW THE, UM, VALUES WERE A LOT HIGHER ON PERSONAL PROPERTY, WHICH BROUGHT IN ABOUT $2 MILLION OVER WHAT WE EXPECTED IN PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES.

UM, AND ALSO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WAS ROCKING AND ROLLING.

THEY BROUGHT IN ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS HIGHER THAN EXPECTED.

SO THEY WERE DOING GREAT.

UM, THE GENERAL FUND EXPENSES ARE PROJECTED TO BE 63 MILLION, WHICH, UM, COMES UNDER BUDGET.

THIS SAYS, OH, OKAY.

OUR PROJECTION EXCEEDS, WE, WE ARE COMING UNDER IN EXPENSES BY 4.3 MILLION.

UM, THAT IS DUE TO A LOT OF POSITIONED VACANCIES.

UH, WE HAD OVER A MILLION DOLLARS SAVED, YOU COULD SAY, UM, BY UNFILLED POSITIONS AND FY 22.

UM, WE ALSO HAD $2 MILLION THAT WE BUDGETED BUT DID NOT SPEND.

AND THAT WAS FOR DEBT SERVICE.

WE KNEW WE WERE TAKING OUT GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS.

UM, WE BUDGETED AN ENTIRE YEAR'S WORTH.

WE DIDN'T NEED TO SPEND AN ENTIRE YEAR'S WORTH CUZ WE TOOK THEM OUT IN FEBRUARY.

SO THAT IS, UM, $3 MILLION.

AND THE REST WERE JUST THROUGHOUT VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.

I WILL SAY NON PERSONNEL EXPENSES DID USE UP A MUCH OF THEIR BUDGET, ESPECIALLY IN FUEL AND SOME OF OUR MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS.

UM, BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, INFLATION HAS BEEN HAPPENING, FUEL COSTS HAVE BEEN INCREASING.

SO IT WAS MOSTLY IN THE PERSONNEL AREAS.

OKAY? SO THE RESULTS OF THAT REVENUE AND EXPENDITURES COMES TO A 9.3 MILLION SURPLUS IN OUR OPERATIONS.

UM, AFTER YOU JUST LOOK AT THE DAY TO DAY, WE DO MAKE A TRANSFER TO OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND AND A SMALL TRANSFER TO OUR CSA PROGRAM, THE OFFICE OF CHILDREN'S SERVICES, THOSE TOTAL TO ABOUT SIX AND A HALF MILLION, WHICH LEAVES US AFTER THOSE TRANSFERS OF AN INCREASE OF 2.8 MILLION IN OUR GENERAL FUND BALANCE TO GIVE US 44 MILLION.

SO GLAND COUNTY DOES HAVE SEVERAL POLICIES IN PLACE FOR WHERE WE LIKE TO TARGET OUR MONEY, WHERE WE LIKE TO STAY TO KEEP OURSELVES AT A GOOD RATING AND ENSURE THAT SHOULD ANYTHING HAPPEN, WHICH COULD HAPPEN VERY SOON.

UM, WE HAVE A GOAL, WE DON'T WANNA SPEND ANY MORE THAN 10% FROM OUR GENERAL FUND ON OUR DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS IN RELATION TO OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES OF THE FOLLOWING BUDGET, UM, WE'RE COMING IN AT 3%.

SO WE'RE WELL BELOW THAT 10% I, IT'S SAYS TARGET, BUT THAT'S REALLY OUR MAX.

SO WE'RE WELL BELOW THAT.

AND OUR UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE GOIN HAS A POLICY TO KEEP IT ABOUT 25%, UM, OF THE FOLLOWING YEAR'S BUDGET.

AND WE ARE AT 22.4 MILLION FOR UNASSIGNED.

AND THAT BRINGS US A LITTLE OVER 27%.

SO WE'RE DOING WELL IN

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THAT CATEGORY AS WELL.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE 44 MILLION OR 40, I THINK IT WAS 44 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE.

UM, AND ONLY A PORTION OF THAT IS, IS UNASSIGNED.

UM, THAT'S BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE ALLOCATED TO CERTAIN PROJECTS.

SOME OF THEM ARE NONS, SPENDABLE, COMMITTED, RESTRICTED, UM, BUT THE BIG PORTION OF IT WE SET ASIDE FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW WE'RE NOT SPENDING IN FY 23 BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BUDGETED FOR.

BUT WE DO WANNA HOLD 'EM ASIDE.

WE DON'T WANNA SPEND 'EM ON OPERATING THINGS LIKE SALARIES.

WE WANT TO DESIGNATE THEM TO SPECIFIC PROJECTS.

SO, UM, I'VE LISTED HERE SOME OF THE LARGER AMOUNTS THAT WE'RE CALLING ASSIGNED AND THESE WILL BE LISTED IN THE, UM, THE ANNUAL FINANCE REPORT.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA COME TO YOU AND ASK IF YOU AGREE WITH THESE.

UM, DO YOU SEE ANY NEED TO CHANGE THEM? UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT $7 MILLION SETTING ASIDE FOR FUTURE DEBT SERVICE.

UM, WE KNOW WE'VE GOT BIG PROJECTS ON THE HORIZON, SO WE JUST WANNA BE SAFE THERE.

WE'RE GONNA HOLD 4.4 MILLION FOR FY 23 PROJECTS.

AND THAT TRANSFER, I MEAN WE'RE AUGUST 2ND TODAY, THAT TRANSFER HAS ALREADY OCCURRED.

THAT'S TO FUND, THAT'S CUZ OUR GENERAL FUND DOES FUND ALL OF OUR BUDGETED CAPITAL PROJECTS.

UM, BOUGHT 3 MILLION FOR FUTURE C I P PROJECTS.

THAT'S FY 24 AND BEYOND, AND 1.6 MILLION, HOPEFULLY WE DO NOT HAVE TO USE THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN AN INFLATIONARY PERIOD, SO WE'RE SEEING COSTS COME IN FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, MAINTENANCE CONTRACTS, UM, ANY BIG PROJECTS, THEY'RE COMING IN 30, SOMETIMES 40% HIGHER THAN IS BUDGETED OR EXPECTED.

SO WE, WE WANNA SET ASIDE A LITTLE POT OF MONEY TO COVER THOSE IN FY 23 AS WELL.

UM, WE'RE HOLDING OUT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR FUTURE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

THAT'S ANOTHER DEPARTMENT THAT'S GOT A LOT GOING ON.

UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF VDO MONEY, A LOT OF REVENUE COMING IN TO SUPPORT THAT.

BUT THAT DOES COME WITH LOCAL, LOCAL MATCH MATCHING FUNDS.

SO WE'RE GONNA SET A MILLION DOLLARS ASIDE FOR THAT.

THERE'S OTHER SMALLER AMOUNTS TOO, BUT THOSE ARE THE BIG ONES.

UM, WE, IN ADDITION TO UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, WE ALSO HAVE, AS PART OF GIN'S POLICY, A REVENUE STABILIZATION FUND THAT IS HELD IN THE AUDIT REPORT AS COMMITTED.

AND WE KEEP JUST OVER 3% OF THE NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET THERE TOO.

AND THAT'S TO, UM, ENSURE THAT IF ANYTHING CRAZY HAPPENED, WE WOULD HAVE MONEY FOR IT.

SO WE'VE JUST GONE OVER THE BIGGEST FUND BALANCE ASSIGNMENTS AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA DRAFT AN AUDIT REPORT AND IT'LL BE, UM, PRESENTED AT THE DECEMBER MEETING MOST LIKELY.

BUT, UM, WE ASK TONIGHT THAT YOU, OR TODAY THAT YOU GIVE US YOUR THOUGHTS, LET US KNOW THAT YOU AGREE WITH THIS.

UH, AND THEN ONCE WE GET THE ACTUAL FINAL FIGURES, WE WILL FINALIZE HOW WE'RE GONNA ASSIGN THE MONEY AT THE OCTOBER BOARD MEETING.

AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

THE STRONGS.

SO, UM, AND WHERE YOU, UM, IF IT'S EASY SLIDE FIVE, I BET WELL, RIGHT.

UM, YEAH, FIVE GO THIS ONE.

SO, AND I'LL HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS MAYBE, AND CERTAINLY MY COLLEAGUES SPEAK UP, BUT THE THING THAT I PAUSED ON WAS THE 1 MILLION FOR FUTURE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS AND I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW YOU.

WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? CV C? WE HAVE CVT A MONEY.

THAT IS BY DEFINITION ASSIGNED.

IS IT NOT? I MEAN, WHEN IT COMES IN THAT HAS TO BE ASSIGNED, CORRECT? UM, I THINK IT FALLS UNDER COMMITTED, BUT YES, BUT IT'S, IT'S RESTRICTED SOMEHOW.

IT'S NOT UNASSIGNED.

IT CAN NEVER BE UNASSIGN.

SO WHEN YOU, WHEN I SAW THAT 1 MILLION, I THOUGHT, IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING? I I I WOULD THINK OUR CBTA A NUMBER IS HIGHER THAN THAT, I THOUGHT.

THIS IS IN ADDITION TO OUR CBTA A NUMBER, THIS IS OUR GENERAL FUND.

SO CBTA HAS ITS OWN FUND WITH ITS OWN STREAM OF MONEY.

AND THIS IS JUST GENERAL FUND THAT WE'RE WILLING TORE NOT EVEN SHOWING US CBTA A HERE.

THIS IS JUST GENERAL FUND.

SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA ASSIGN 1 MILLION FROM GENERAL FUND TO HELP SUPPORT, SUPPORT THEM IF THEY NEED IT.

WELL THAT ANSWERS THAT.

WITH SOME OF THAT MONEY? CORRECT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

SO CAN I PIGGYBACK REAL QUICK THIS LAST QUESTION.

SO ARE YOU ASKING US TO, SO WE REPORTED IT BECAUSE OUR REVENUES WERE UP, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL MONIES AND THESE ARE THE BALANCE AND THERE'S, SO WE HAVE TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH THAT.

ARE YOU SAYING, ARE YOU ASKING US TO DECLARE AT SOME POINT, OKAY, WE HAD EXTRA MONEY COME IN FROM THE PERSONAL PROPERTY AND UH, ON THE REVENUE SIDE, ARE YOU SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TO AGREE ON TO WHAT TO DO

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AND HONESTLY ASSIGNED CATEGORIES, THEY'RE OPTIONAL.

UM, THERE ARE, SO THAT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY MY QUESTION.

WHICH OF THESE SOME, I THINK YOU MENTIONED ONE WAS ALREADY SENT OFF, SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY, WHICH ONES ARE WE ACTUALLY MAKING POTENTIAL DECISIONS ON OR DO YOU WANT US TO CONSIDER? UM, WELL THE MOTION I WILL PUT IT UP HERE IS TO, UM, APPROVE HOPEFULLY, UM, THE PRELIMINARY FUND BALANCE ASSIGNMENTS AND THAT WILL GIVE ME THE GUIDANCE OF HOW TO SET IT UP IN THE AUDIT REPORT AND HOW IT GETS DRAFTED.

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO AGREE OR NOT AGREE WITH THE WAY WE'RE LAYING THIS OUT.

WELL THAT, SO IF YOU'RE ASKING US ARE THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS RIGHT IN THOSE CATEGORIES, I THINK PERSONALLY I NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT DO I ACTUALLY HAVE, WHAT'S ACTUALLY UP FOR DEBATE NOT, CAUSE IF YOU SAID ONE IS ALREADY, HEY, IT'S ALREADY AUGUST 2ND, THIS IS ALREADY GONE BECAUSE IT RIGHT, RIGHT.

THAT TRANSFER HAS BEEN MADE, IT WAS ADOPTED THROUGH THE, UM, FY 23 BUDGET, THE 4.4 MILLION, THE OTHERS ARE ALL THERE JUST IF WE NEED IT.

OKAY, SO ALL THE OTHERS EXCEPT FOR THAT 4.3 WE HAVE DISCRETION OVER.

WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL INCREASE NOW THAT THE CREDIT, UH, RATING AGENCIES ARE AWARE OF ALL OF THIS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

AND, UH, THERE ARE SOME COUNTIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE THAT DON'T MAKE ANY ASSIGNMENTS WHERE THIS MONEY WOULD JUST FALL INTO UNASSIGNED.

UM, YOU KNOW, THESE ASSIGNMENTS ARE OPTIONAL AND THEY DON'T COMMIT YOU TO ANYTHING.

UH, THE PROBLEM THERE WOULD JUST BE OUR, IT WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM, BUT IT WOULD SHOW OUR UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCES, LIKE 60% OF OUR SUBSEQUENT FUNDS DOLLARS.

SO THESE ARE JUST MAKING A PLAN, MAYBE MAKE IT HELP HER A LITTLE BIT.

UM, WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS EACH YEAR AS WE GET PRELIMINARY RESULTS AND WE, UH, SAY, OKAY, IF THERE'S, UM, EXTRA OR NOT ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE ON A PRELIMINARY BASIS, YOU KNOW, ASSIGN, WHICH IS AVAILABLE FOR REASSIGNMENT LATER IF WE WANT TO, BUT JUST PUT A, A PLACEHOLDER OR EARMARK THIS FOR THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE COMING.

SO WE TRY TO ALLOCATE THAT.

AND IN THIS CASE IT'D BE A PRELIMINARY ASSIGNMENT.

TODAY.

TODAY WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO A PRELIMINARY ASSIGNMENT WITH THE ESTIMATED FY 22, WHICH JUST ENDED ABOUT A MONTH AGO.

UM, WHAT THAT EXCESS IS ABOUT $4 MILLION, A LITTLE LESS.

UM, HOW WE WOULD ON A PRELIMINARY BASIS ALLOCATE THAT ACROSS THE ASSIGNED CATEGORIES.

UH, AND THEN ONCE, WAS IT AUGUST 15TH, WHEN'S YOUR UH MM-HMM AUGUST 15TH, THEY'LL CLOSE THE BOOKS.

ONCE THEY CLOSE THE BOOKS, SHE'LL COME BACK AND SAY, OKAY, NOW WE WANNA DO A FINAL ALLOCATION OF WHATEVER THE FINAL BUDGET NUMBERS ARE.

SO TODAY WOULD BE THE ASK IS FOR A PRELIMINARY ALLOCATION OF THE YEAR TO DATE NUMBERS.

AND IN YOUR BOARD PACKET THERE IS THE EXISTING, UM, ALLOCATION, UH, OF ASSIGNED NUMBERS.

AND PERHAPS THAT IN FUTURE PRESENTATIONS MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THE WHOLE ASSIGNED LIST THERE AND THEN JUST SHOW THE DIFFERENTIALS THAT WE'RE INCREASING THIS, DO THIS, YOU KNOW, THE DELTAS SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THE THREE OR 4 MILLION IS BEING ALLOCATED AMONG OUR EXISTING ASSIGNMENTS.

I THINK THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, SPECIFICALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHERE IT'S GOING AND WHAT THE NET RESULT IS.

DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? DID I HAVE TO PUT A WAREHOUSE BEFORE THAT OR IS THAT ? THE, THE LAWYER ALMOST UNDERSTANDS IT.

SO YOU'RE DOING OKAY.

OKAY, GOOD.

MR. CHAIR IS THAT ADDRESS IT, IT DOES WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING FOR AND I'LL LESS CLIP GET TO HER POINT.

OH, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST, THIS IS, THIS IS THE POINT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT MONTHS AGO WHEN PEOPLE ASKING US TO LOWER PERSONAL PROPERTY RATES TO SAY WE'RE NOT GONNA SPIN THIS AS A WINDFALL.

SO THIS, THIS IS ACTUALLY A PRETTY IMPORTANT TIME FOR US TO BE ABLE TO SAY WE'RE NOT TAKING THIS MONEY AND GOING AND STARTING NEW PROJECTS THAT WE DIDN'T PLAN ON.

WE'RE TAKING THIS MON THE EXTRA REVENUES, YOU KNOW, MAKE HAYWOOD SUNSHINE, RIGHT? UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE RESERVING THEM SO THAT WE ARE IN THE BEST FINANCIAL POSITION, BUT NOT JUST SPENDING ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT WE RECEIVED.

PERHAPS IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO PAGE FIVE AND THEN COME BACK TO THE MOTION LATER, BUT PAGE FIVE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, A LOT OF THIS IS, IS DEBT SERVICE OR CIP P UM, DEBT SERVICE.

WE HAD A REFERENDUM, UH, LAST NOVEMBER PASSED BY THE, UH, CITIZENS THAT GAVE US THE AUTHORIZATION TO DO A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, UM, MIDWAY THROUGH IN FE IN FEBRUARY, THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY, MIDWAY THROUGH 22, WE ISSUED 50 MILLION GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT THAT GAVE US, I THINK FIVE MONTHS WORTH OF DEBT SERVICE IN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT NOW IS THE END OF F Y 22 6 30 22, THERE'S ONLY A HALF A YEAR, A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF A YEAR OF INTEREST IN, IN PRINCIPLE ON THAT GENERAL NEXT YEAR THERE'LL BE A FULL YEAR OF THAT, PLUS WE HAVEN'T ISSUED THE OTHER 50 YET EITHER.

SO WE KNOW IN THE NEXT PERIOD OF TIME, 2, 3, 4, 5 YEAR, WHATEVER, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FULL YEAR OF THE FIRST GO 50 MILLION AND THEN EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FULL YEAR OF THE SECOND 50 MILLION.

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AND THEY GAVE US OUR, OUR TRIPLE A AS A COUNTY KNOWING FULL WELL THAT WE HAD A HUNDRED MILLION AUTHORIZATION, UH, AT, ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER.

SO THIS ISN'T A SURPRISE TO THOSE FOLKS, BUT ON OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, ON OUR BOOKS, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO, UM, ISSUE THE DEBT, UH, SERVICE THE DEBT STAY WITHIN COMPLIANCE WITHIN OUR RATIOS.

AND, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE SETTING UP SOME OF THESE LARGER RESERVES ON THE CAPITAL SPENDING SIDE.

UH, WE'VE PUT OUT BIDS FOR THINGS LIKE THE NEW SCHOOL, BUT WE'VE ALSO GOT A NEW COURTHOUSE WITH COUPLE OF NEW FIREHOUSES.

THERE'S SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL LARGE CAPITAL PROJECTS, CIP P PROJECTS, WHICH AGAIN, WE ARE AFRAID MAY OR MAY NOT COME IN SIGNIFICANTLY ABOVE WHERE WE THINK THEY ARE TODAY.

SO, SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A LOT OF C I P AND A LOT OF DEBT SERVICE IN THE RESERVES HERE.

UM, AND WE'VE, THESE ARE FOR KNOWN THINGS THAT WE KNOW ARE COMING.

THEY'RE JUST NOT HERE YET.

AND UM, IN A, WHEN YOU HAVE A DECENT YEAR AND A GOOD YEAR, THAT'S WHEN YOU BUILD UP YOUR RESERVES CUZ YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT NEXT YEAR'S GONNA HOLD.

SO THAT, THAT, THANK YOU.

SO THAT HANG ONTO TO EVERY WORD SERIOUSLY, BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT.

SO THE 7 MILLION, WELL YOU'RE TALKING A LITTLE WHILE AGO, ABOUT 4 MILLION AND NOW I'M SEEING THERE'S A LOT MORE THAN 4 MILLION UP HERE.

SO ARE THESE EXISTING LARGER COMBINATION? YEAH, THIS IS, THIS IS A COMBINATION OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO ADD AND WHAT WE HAVE IN THE BUCKETS RIGHT NOW.

ONE 6 MILLION, ONE'S 1 MILLION.

WE'RE WE ARE SURE THAT THEY WILL BE, NEED TO BE PAID IN THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

SO HOW, HOW ARE IT WOULD HELP, BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ASSIGNED NOW MM-HMM , THESE NUMBERS REFLECT SOME ADDITIONS IN EACH BUCKET.

THESE WILL NOT BE PUT INTO THE FY 23 BUDGET AT ALL.

THEY'RE JUST, SO WE END FY 22 WITH 44 MILLION AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SAY TO THE CITIZENS OR THE THREE PEOPLE THAT LOOK AT THE AUDIT REPORT, , UM, HERE'S WHAT WE INTEND TO DO WITH THIS MONEY UNASSIGNED IS TYPICALLY SPENT ON A LOT OF TIMES INCREASES IN SALARY OPERATING EXPENSES.

BUT WE ARE SAYING OF THIS 44 MILLION, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA DO SOME CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF DEBT SERVICE COMING UP IN THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

WE WANNA SET THAT ASIDE.

WE DON'T WANT THAT SITTING IN OUR UNASSIGNED, UM, FOR OUR EMERGENCY FUND.

UM, SHOULD WE HIT A RECESSION? WE WANNA HOLD THIS ASIDE CUZ WE KNOW WE WILL MORE THAN LIKELY NEEDED.

SO, SO THIS, HELP ME UNDERSTAND, WHAT IS THIS, WHAT IS THIS? 7000004.43 1.6.

WHERE IS IT NOW? IS IT A COMBINATION OF STUFF ASSIGNED? IT'S IN OUR BANK ACCOUNT.

NO.

YEAH, IT'S JUST OUR FUND BALANCE.

IT'S PART OF OUR MAIN FUND BALANCE.

SO OF YOUR FUND BALANCE, YOU HAVE TO ALLOCATE IT TO CERTAIN, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO THESE ARE, SO, SO IS THIS A PORTION THAT IS CURRENTLY UNASSIGNED THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO ASSIGN? CORRECT.

SO HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT THE TOTAL OF THESE NUMBERS TO EVEN THINK THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO MOVE FROM UNASSIGNED TO ASSIGN WHAT PAGE TO MOVE? WELL THESE ARE OUR BEST GUESSES OF WHAT WE WILL NEED TO HOLD ASIDE, BUT ALSO TO GET AT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, I THINK WE HAVE A TARGET UNASSIGNED PERCENTAGE THAT WE WANNA STAY AT.

SO BECAUSE WE HAVE 44 MILLION, IF WE WANT 25% OF THAT TO BE UNASSIGNED, SAY, OR 20.

SO WE HAVE A SET NUMBER THAT WE WANT TO BE OUR UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE AND THAT'S 25% OF NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.

AND YOU SHOWED US WHERE 27 CORRECT.

AFTER WE DO THIS, DOES THAT PERCENTAGE CHANGE WE WE'RE HOLDING AT 27.

SO TO GET TO THAT 27% WE NEED TO MOVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT UP TO ASSIGN.

SO THAT'S WHY THESE NUMBERS TOTAL, UM, AN ASSIGNED FIGURE THAT GETS US THAT 25% AND UNASSIGNED OR 27 27 27.

IF YOU, IF YOU GO TO PAGE 66 IN THE BOARD PACKET, IF YOU HAVE THE BOARD PACKET HANDY, UM, PAGE 66 IS GOING TO SHOW A COMPLETE LIST OF ALL THE ASSIGNED AND UNASSIGNED BALANCES AND THE NUMBERS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN FOR THE CITIZENS.

UM, THESE TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT WAS ALREADY IN THOSE BUCKETS AND THE NEW ALLOCATION FROM THE CURRENT OR 6 22 LAST YEAR'S PRELIMINARY YEAR END, UH, ALLOCATIONS.

SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THAT.

AND IT ON PAGE 66, THE, THE FUTURE DEBT SERVICE IS ACTUALLY TWO PIECES.

BUT THE IDEA IS YOU COMBINE THOSE TWO FOR FUTURE DEBT SERVICE, YOU GET TO THE SEVEN, THE REST OF THOSE NUMBERS WILL LINE UP WITH WHAT'S IN YOUR BOARD PACKET ON THE AFTER GIVING EFFECT TO WHAT WE'RE BEING CONSIDERED TO DO TODAY, WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO TODAY.

SO THANK YOU.

IF WE PASS 'EM RESOLUTION, THESE WILL BE THE BUCKETS AND THEY'RE IN THE BOARD PACKET AFTER THE FACT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I THINK I GOT MY HEAD AROUND THE MECHANICS NOW.

PHILOSOPHICALLY, MY REACTION, AND YOU TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE, AND, AND MR. SPOON AND I JUST TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DOWNSIDE OF HAVING TOO MUCH UNASSIGNED, IT RAISES QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.

, BUT WE MOVE THINGS,

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WE CAN MOVE THINGS LATER IN AND OUT OF ASSIGNED, RIGHT? ANYTIME.

SO I THINK THIS IS A LOT OF LIKE EXPRESSING INTENTIONS AND PLANS MM-HMM.

BEING A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC.

SO I WOULD JUST SAY MY, MY BIGGEST THING ON THIS IS A SMALL THING MAYBE, BUT MY BIGGEST THING LOOKING AT THIS LIST IS I CAN THINK OF REASONS TO NOT PUT 1 MILLION IN FUTURE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS RIGHT NOW PHILOSOPHICALLY, I I I THINK THE PHILOSOPHICAL WAS THAT'S NOT GONNA, UH, IT'S NOT GONNA FUND A LARGE PROJECT, BUT IT MIGHT FUND SOME STUDIES TO SAY WHAT KIND OF PROJECT DO WE NEED? SO I THINK WE SET ASIDE SOME MONEY THAT IF WE, THE COUNTY DECIDE WE WANNA DO A STUDY, KINDA LIKE THE TUCK BRIDGE THAT WE HAVE THE FUNDS SET ASIDE TO DO THAT.

I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY THIS, GET THAT IN THERE.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND SAY THIS THINKING THAT NOT NOBODY'S GONNA BACK AND LOOK AT ALL OF THIS, UM, PUTTING IT THERE.

WHEN WE'RE GOING OUT LOOKING FOR MONEY, SOMEBODY'S GONNA LOOK BACK AT US AND POINT TO THE BUCKET.

IF THE BUCKET HAS A MILLION IN IT, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A RESPONSE.

IF THAT BUCKET DOESN'T HAVE THAT MILLION IN IT, THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THAT SAME RESPONSE.

THAT QUESTION WAS LITERALLY ASKED THREE TIMES OF ME THIS WEEK, HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS IN HOUSE? AND IF WE HAVE IT, SOMEBODY'S GONNA SAY GIVE IT, IT, IT, WE'RE DEFINITELY GONNA DECIDE WHETHER HAVE TO GIVE IT AND IT DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR.

IT'S THE IDEA IS THAT WE, I MAYBE SAID TOO MUCH AND PUT IT IN THERE, BUT JUST REAL, JUST I WANTED TO SAY, UM, THAT, JUST THINK ABOUT CUZ WE COULD PUT 5 MILLION IN IT AND THERE'LL BE A NEED.

THERE'S A NEED, THERE'S AN ENDLESS NEED.

THERE'S AN ENDLESS, MY, AGAIN, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THIS IS, IS IT MIGHT FUND STUDIES BUT NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA FUND PROJECTS.

SO WHEN THEY ASK HOW MUCH YOU HAVE FOR PROJECTS, THE ANSWER MAY BE NONE.

HOW MUCH THEY HAVE FOR STUDIES TO PREPARE FOR IT, THEN WE MAY HAVE SOME, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR.

CAN WE, SO MAYBE ADD PROJECTS SLASH STUDIES.

YEAH, YEAH.

FOR FUTURE TRANSPORTATION STUDIES, WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? OH, ABSOLUTELY.

AND THAT'S, UM, AN ASSIGNED BALANCE, WHICH IS ALWAYS SUBJECT TO REASSIGNMENT AS WELL.

SO YEAH, WE WE'RE GONNA NEED THE MONEY FOR MATCHING FUNDS AND THINGS LIKE RIGHT.

THAT, BUT I, THAT WAS JUST SORT OF THE, AS WE KIND OF MOVE TO THE PHILOSOPHICAL, BUT I HAVE THE, I UNDERSTAND THE MECHANICS.

THANK YOU ALL FOR WALKING US THROUGH IT.

THAT WAS GOOD, GOOD CONVERSATION.

AND IF I COULD TRY TO DO MY BEST, MR. PETERSON.

SO IF A CITIZEN CAME TO ME AND ASKED WHAT WE DID WITH THIS MONEY, WE COULD THE EX SOMEBODY SAYS, HEY, WE TOOK IN A LOT MORE REVENUE VIA, UH, PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES AND REAL ESTATE TAXES THAN WE WE ANTICIPATED.

WE CAN SAY HONESTLY, WE TOOK THAT MONEY AND WE ADDED IT TO PAY DOWN FU FOR OUR FUTURE DEBTS.

UH, SOME OF IT WENT TO PROJECTS THAT WERE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS AND UNDERWAY FOR THIS YEAR.

UM, FUTURE PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE C I P, WE ALSO TOOK AND PUT MONEY ASIDE FOR INFLATION AND FOR TRANSPORTATION.

AND THAT WOULD BE AN ACCURATE STATEMENT.

GOOD.

THAT'S A GOOD STATEMENT.

, THAT WOULD BE ACCURATE, MR. CHAIR.

UM, ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE.

UM, ON THE PAGE 60, THAT'S THE NEXT PAGE WE HAVE THE ACTUAL, THE ACTUAL BUDGET.

WELL, YEAH, , THE ACTUAL JOB TO CHARACTERIZE IT, UM, IN OUR BUDGET, IN OUR, AND I THINK WE MENTIONED THIS, CARL, IN OUR OPERATING BUDGET, THE RESIDUAL FROM THE BUDGET FIRST WENT TO FUND OUR ANNUAL CAPITAL C I P PROGRAMS. AFTER THAT, THERE WAS VERY LITTLE LEFT OVER TWO TO 3 MILLION THAT WAS THEN ALLOCATED TOWARD OUR RESERVES TO MAINTAIN THE RATIO OF OUR RESERVES IN RELATION TO OUR BUDGET, WHICH IS INCREASING WITH INFLATION.

BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T INCREASE YOUR RESERVES ALONG WITH YOUR BUDGET, YOUR RATIO OF YOUR RESERVES TO YOUR BUDGET STARTS TO DECLINE.

THAT WEAKENS US FINANCIALLY.

AND IT MIGHT AT SOME POINT MIGHT JEOPARDIZE OUR CREDIT RATING.

SO THE IDEA WAS YOU NEED TO COVER YOUR ANNUAL CIP P WHICH WE DID, AND YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN YOUR RATIOS GOING FORWARD IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN OUR QUALITY.

SO THAT'S WHERE ALL THE MONEY WENT.

AND BEYOND THAT, THERE WASN'T, YOU KNOW, VIRTUALLY NOTHING LEFT AFTER THAT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE ANSWER IS ON LAST YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO CYA IN YOUR WORLD IS COVER YOUR ANNUAL, NO COMMENT.

WILL MENTION THIS BEFORE I DO THE MOTION THAT THIS WAS DISCUSSED IN THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE, AND IT COMES BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE FINANCE AND AUDIT, UH, FOR APPROVAL.

BOY, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I THINK YOU DID.

I THINK WE'VE JUST BEEN ALREADY NO, NO, WE WERE IN DISCUSSION.

NO, I, WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE DID.

WE DON'T HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ONE.

UM, BUT YOU ALL AGREE WITH THE DISTRIBUTION? NO CHANGES EXCEPT CHANGE V TWO PROJECTS.

YEAH, OUR STUDIES STUDIES STUDIES.

SO THE, THE AMENDMENT BE A WORDING AMENDMENT NOT IN A DOLLAR AMOUNT AMENDMENT AND, OKAY, FAIR ENOUGH.

UM, I

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THAT SAID, UM, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION HERE.

I THINK, UM, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE GSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE JUNE 30TH, 2022 PRELIMINARY FUND BALANCE ASSIGNMENTS AS AMENDED.

THANK YOU MR. PETERSON.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? RIGHT.

THANK YOU MS. LASETTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY STATING AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

IF MY THANK YOU.

RIGHT, WE JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING.

VERY IMPORTANT THING.

I HAVE TOO MUCH PAPER UP HERE.

UH, WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT POINTING SOME FOLKS TO, UM, THE

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C VTA, UH, BOARD.

WE'RE LOOKING TO APPOINT, UH, AUSTIN GO AS A MEMBER AND TOM COLEMAN AS ALTERNATE FOR COUNTY STAFF REPRESENTATIVES TO A TWO YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE AUGUST 1ST, 2022 TO JULY 31ST, 2024.

CAN I PLEASE GET A MOTION TO OR DISCUSSION OR QUESTION? I WOULD SAY SO MOVED, BUT I THINK WE WANNA MAKE IS IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE TO THE T TO THE C B T A T? IS THAT WHAT THAT'S APPOINTMENT TO? UM, YES, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS GROUP IS.

SO IT'S A NEWER COMMITTEE? NO, I THINK IT'S, IT MIGHT BE THE CBTA TAG.

THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.

CBTA, HE'S JUST SAYING RIGHT NOW THE AMENDMENT ONLY SAYS TO THE CBT A, WHICH CERTAINLY NOT SERVING ON THE BOARD OF THE CVT, SO IT SHOULD BET SO MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVED IT, I MOVE IT.

WE APPOINT AUSTIN GOING AS MEMBER AND TOM COLEMAN AS AN ALTERNATE, UH, AS OUR COUNTY STAFF REPRESENTATIVES TO THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

COME EARLY AND GET YOUR SEATS.

THANK YOU MR. LINCOLNS.

MS. LAST CLIP DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

IF MY LIST IS RIGHT, WE ARE AT OUR RECESS FOR DINNER.

SEE EVERYBODY BACK HERE AT SIX O'CLOCK.

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HOW ARE TALK EVERYTHING.

I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THE SAME THING.

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I'M

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HAVING HEAR ME NOW, PAUL.

NIGHT, NIGHT OUT.

UM, BUT I, I PUT SOME, SOME MINS AND EVERYTHING OUT THERE IN CASE PEOPLE GET, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE, I'M ALWAYS, ALWAYS TAKING, OKAY, WELL, IF NO CHOCOLATE GOES, LIKE IF CHOCOLATE PRICES WERE OUTRAGEOUS, I COULDN'T AFFORD CHOCOLATE.

OH, THERE, I SEE YOU'RE UNMUTED NOW.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH.

I, I THINK GOT A, A, A BUTTON SAYING YOU WERE UNMUTING ME.

YOU WANTED TO UNMUTE ME, SO, OKAY.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S WORKING.

YOU CAN HEAR ME JUST FINE? YES, SIR.

I GUESS MR. SHARP'S GONNA BE JOINING VIA ZOOM TONIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE.

UM, MR. SHARP GOING TO BE ONLINE.

YEAH, MR. SHARP IS, YEAH.

OKAY, GREAT.

YEAH, SO HE CAN VOTE.

THROUGH THE ZOOM CALL.

HE, HE'LL JUST COME OVER THE SPEAKER LIKE PAUL'S TALKING NOW THAT'S PAUL, BY THE WAY, .

THANKS PAUL.

I GUESS THAT'S ALL I NEEDED, MAN.

YEAH, SO HE'S THE ONLY ONE, RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK SO.

WE'RE NOT ADVERTISING IT TO THE CITIZENS, WE'RE JUST ALLOWING IT FOR MR. SHARP.

UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, A LOT OF GREAT STUFF TO GO THROUGH TONIGHT.

YEAH, I I CAN HEAR YOU.

I CAN SEE YOU.

EVERYTHING'S OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO TEST IT.

IT WORKED.

I COULD HEAR YOU AND YOU COULD HEAR ME.

ARE YOU GONNA BE WATCHING US?

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I DON'T, Y'ALL WEREN'T HERE AT THE TWO O'CLOCK, BUT, SO Y'ALL SNUCK IN ON US ON OUR DINNER BREAK.

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AGAIN, APPRECIATE THE PARTICIPATION.

WANNA LET FOLKS KNOW IT'S A LITTLE CROWDED HERE, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA GET HOT.

WE DO HAVE AN OVERFLOW ROOM RIGHT DOWN THE HALL IN TWO 70.

WE HAVE, IT'S THE SAME EXPERIENCE AND IF YOU WILL LET FOLKS COME OVER TO SPEAK AS WELL SO YOU WOULDN'T MISS YOUR ACCOUNT PERIOD.

BUT IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO OVER THERE, YOU FEEL MORE THAN WELCOME.

UM, ALSO WANNA LET FOLKS KNOW THAT, UH, WE WILL BE STREAMING AGAIN ON YOUTUBE.

UM, WE ARE USING OUR OWN, UH, SOFTWARE THAT'S ONLY STREAMED THROUGH OUR WEBSITE.

AND THIS WEEK WE ARE BACK, UH, ON YOUTUBE.

UH, WE WILL OPEN OUR MEETING WITH THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.

THIS IS FOR PEOPLE TO BE, TO COME UP AND SPEAK TO THE COUNTY ON ISSUES THAT ARE NOT ON

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TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME AND ADDRESS THE, THE BOARD ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON TONIGHT'S THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING FROM NOW, IT WOULD BE THE TIME TO DO THAT.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

UH, IF YOU COME UP, THERE'S A BUTTON ON THE MICROPHONE ON THE BOTTOM, IT'S RED NOW PRESS THE BUTTON, IT'LL TURN GREEN, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

A YELLOW LIGHT WILL GO OFF, UM, WHEN IT'S ONE MINUTE.

AND THEN, UH, IT'LL BE RED WHEN WE NEED YOU TO WRAP IT UP.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WILL OPEN THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.

AND WHEN YOU COME UP IF YOU COULD PLEASE JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS SO WE CAN, UH, PUT THAT INTO THE RECORD.

SO RED BUTTON, JUST PUSH IT, RIGHT? THAT'S IT.

ARE YOU SURE? OH, IT'S GREEN.

IT MUST BE WORKING .

SO, UH, I'LL, I'LL, I WILL STAY WITHIN THE THREE MINUTES.

I, UM, WAS REMINDED RECENTLY OF THE STORY.

SORRY.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE, OH, YOU WHO I AM? YES.

WHY DID I FORGET THAT? SORRY.

UM, BUDDY BISHOP, 45 55 LEAKS MILL ROAD IN GUM SPRING.

THANK YOU, MR. BISHOP.

1, 2, 8, 9, 8 HOLLY LANE, MANNEQUIN.

YOU KNOW, I EVEN THOUGHT I WOULD'VE FORGET IT.

AND ANYWAY, SO I WAS REMINDED RECENTLY OF A STORY ABOUT IT, UH, OF 10 LEPERS THAT, UH, NEEDED SOME HELP.

AND THE GREATEST MAN THAT EVER LIVED SAW THEM.

AND, UH, THEY CALLED OUT TO HIM AND HE SAID, GO SEE THE PRIEST.

AND ON THEIR WAY, THEY FOUND OUT THEY WERE HEALED.

AND SO ONE WENT BACK AND SAID, THIS IS GREAT.

THANKS.

OF COURSE, I'M PARAPHRASING.

AND THEN THE QUESTION WAS, WHERE ARE THE OTHER, WELL, THAT'S THE QUESTION IN MY CASE, WHY I'M SPEAKING TO YOU BRIEFLY THIS MOR UH, THIS MORNING RIGHT NOW, IS THAT I THINK I, UH, MY CONSCIENCE IS TELLING ME THAT I'M THE OTHER NINE I, AND SO THE THANK YOU THAT I WANT TO ISSUE IS TO THE FOLKS SEATED BEHIND THAT BOARD RIGHT THERE, UM, AS YOU MAY HAVE RECALLED, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING RATHER HARD ALL THESE YEARS AND YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.

AND SO MY, MY, MY COMMENT IS TO SAY THANKS.

UH, AND I SHOULD ALSO ADD TO THAT, THAT ONE OF THE REASONS I THINK THE NINE DIDN'T COME BACK IS BECAUSE, WELL, THEY'RE HEALED NOW.

THEY HAD TO GET A JOB, BUT NO, THEY DIDN'T COME BACK BECAUSE, UM, THEIR FOCUS WAS NOT WHERE IT NEEDED TO BE.

AND, AND THE WORK THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE DONE FOR THESE PAST YEARS HAS BEEN OF MASSIVE BENEFIT TO ME PERSONALLY AND TO MOST OF THE, IF NOT THE MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS IN THE COUNTY.

AND IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO ME, HAVING THOUGHT OF THAT PARABLE TO SAY THAT TO YOU PERSONALLY.

SO JOHN AND DON AND NEIL, AND KEN AND SUSAN AND THE OTHER FOLKS THAT HAVE SERVED YOU ON BOARD'S PAST, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE.

IS THERE A PROTOCOL TO END THE COMMENT? ? NO, I JUST WALK AWAY.

THANK YOU, MR. BISHOP.

ANYONE ELSE FOR THIS CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD? REBECCA, THIS IS ON, RIGHT? YEAH.

REBECCA MURPHY.

SABBA.

GOOD EVENING HERE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A MESS IN HICKORY HAVEN WITH THE SOLINE PROJECT.

UM, I JUST GONNA READ THE DEFINITION FROM THE AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION ABOUT LAND USE PLANNING.

IT STATES THE GOAL OF LAND USE PLANNING IS

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TO FURTHER THE WELFARE OF PEOPLE AND THEIR COMMUNITIES BY CREATING CONVENIENT, EQUITABLE, HEALTHFUL, EFFICIENT, AND ATTRACTIVE ENVIRONMENTS FOR PRESENT AND FUTURE GENERATIONS.

I'M GONNA SINGLE OUT READERS BRANCH WATERWAY, UM, NEAR OUR COMMUNITY.

IT HAS BEEN POLLUTED WITH SEDIMENT TWICE IN THE PAST SIX WEEKS.

DEQ HAS BEEN NOTIFIED BECAUSE THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY RIGHT NOW FOR THE CONTRACTORS, YET THE COUNTY WANTS TO CONTINUE BUILDING, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INSPECTORS.

THERE'S ONE INSPECTOR, ONE FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY.

I WAS TOLD BY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC UTILITIES, THEY RELY ON CITIZENS TO REPORT PROBLEMS. WELL, I HAVE NEWS.

A LOT OF CITIZENS AREN'T TRAINED IN EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL LIKE I AM.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR.

I DON'T BUY THAT EXCUSE.

WE NEED ANOTHER INSPECTOR IN THIS COUNTY BEFORE THE WHOLE WATERWAYS AND ALL THE COMMUNITIES ARE POLLUTED WITH SEDIMENT.

IT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

ONE OF MY KIDS ASKED ME THE OTHER DAY, WHAT'S THE BIGGEST POLLUTION PROBLEM IN GLAND? AND I HAD TO THINK, I SAID AROUND HERE, IT'S THE WATERWAYS.

IT'S THE EROSION AND SEDIMENT GOING INTO WATERWAYS.

IT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

IT'S CHOKING OUR WATERWAYS OVER BY 64.

IT'S PROBABLY AIR QUALITY.

AND WITH LAND USE AND PLANNING, WE'VE GOTTA THINK ABOUT THE I IMPACT LONG TERM OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.

THERE'S TALKS OF ANOTHER BUILDING WAREHOUSE GOING UP BY 64, ALL THOSE TRUCKS SITTING THERE IDLING.

UM, LET'S THINK ABOUT THE WEIGHT OF THAT BRIDGE, HOW MUCH IT SUPPORTS.

NOW HERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THE EFFICIENCY OF THE COMMUNITY.

IF THAT BRIDGE WERE TO BE DAMAGED, WHERE DO ALL, WHERE DOES ALL TRAFFIC GO? UM, LET'S THINK LONG TERM ABOUT OUR PLANNING FOR THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST THE HEARING NOW DOLLAR SIGNS, BUT LONG TERM, WHO'S GONNA PAY TO REPAIR THAT BRIDGE? THE WAREHOUSE, PROBABLY NOT THE TAXPAYER, MA'AM, THAT IS THE NEXT CASE.

I KNOW IT'S THE NEXT CASE, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT LONG TERM USE PLANNING.

AND IT ALL TIES IN TOGETHER.

IT'S ALL CONNECTED.

SO AS WE LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COUNTY, I CAN TELL YOU A LOT OF CITIZENS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT BEING HEARD BY THEIR SUPERVISOR A LOT.

AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT TONIGHT, YOU LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITIES AROUND HERE AND LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND THINK ABOUT THE LONG TERM IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN GOLAND COUNTY BEFORE WE'RE ALL CHOKED OUT, AND THERE'S NO MORE FRESH WATER.

AND WE POLLUTE THE JAMES RIVER AS WELL.

THANK YOU, KATIE.

MS. MURPHY.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, UM, WE, WE WORK REALLY HARD TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE MEETINGS THAT EVERYBODY CAN, UM, PARTICIPATE.

UM, WE WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY OUTBURSTS OF CLAPS OR MO OF THAT NATURE.

SO PLEASE, UM, STARTING OFF TO A GREAT FOOT.

SO WE, WE HAVE A, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GREAT MEETING TONIGHT.

UH, IF WE CAN ALL JUST FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES, WE'LL GET THROUGH THIS AND EVERYBODY WILL BE HEARD AND EVERYBODY WILL HAVE THEIR FAIR CHANCE.

ANYBODY ELSE FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? OKAY.

IF NOT, I WILL CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.

ANGUS AND MISS MR. RAY CASH WILL BE PRESENTING.

AND WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WHICH IS AN APPLICATION BY HILLARY AND JONATHAN

[XVI. Public Hearings]

[1. 5434: District 3 - CU-1985-00002A Application by Hilary and Jonathan Angus]

ALL RIGHT, UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I'M RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS FIRST CASE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A RENEWAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AS WELL AS AN AMENDMENT OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

UM, TO RE REQUEST IS TO REMOVE A TRANSFER RESTRICTION UPON AN EXISTING C P ON THE PROPERTY AND ALSO ALLOW ADDITIONAL, UM, CUP FOR EQUESTRIAN SCHOOL AND HORSE RIDING.

STABLE.

UH, THE USE IS LOCATED GENERALLY IN THE CENTRAL, CENTRAL TO EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND DEEP RUN HUNT AREA.

UM, THE USE, UH, IS OUTLINED HERE IN RED, IS REFERRED TO AS LITTLE HAWK FARM.

I WOULD NOTE THAT IT'S ALSO LOCATED ADJACENT TO ANOTHER EXISTING SPRING VALLEY FARM.

UM, THIS AREA, THIS USE, UH, WHERE IT'S BEING PROPOSED AS WELL AS SURROUNDING AREAS IN THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.

UM, AS YOU SEE BY THE AREA, THE, THE AERIAL HERE, THE PROPERTY IS PARTIALLY DEVELOPED ALREADY.

UM, THERE ARE ALREADY EXISTING EQUESTRIAN, A HORSE RATHER FACILITIES, AND THERE IS ALSO ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY, UM, TOWARDS THE EAST.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.

LITTLE HOG FARM.

A LITTLE HOG FARM IS OPERATING IN EQUINE FACILITY IN THIS LOCATION.

MANY YEARS PREDATED ACTUALLY THE 1985 C P UH, THE C P WAS GRANTED FOR AN ANIMAL CLINIC, WHICH WE'LL CALL VETERINARY SERVICES THESE DAYS.

UM, IT OFFERS VETERINARIAN SERVICE, UM, INCLUDING MEDICINE, BOARDING, BREEDING, FULLING, WEANING AND TRAINING.

THE LIMITATION THAT EXISTS IS THERE.

ALSO, IT'S LIMITED TO LARGE ANIMALS.

YOU CAN'T HAVE SMALL ANIMALS SUCH AS HOUSE PETS

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OR THE LIKE THAT COME HERE.

UM, THE CPOS ORIGINALLY GRANTED TO THE PREVIOUS OWNER, THAT WAS DR.

THOMAS NEWTON.

HE'S ACTUALLY, UH, LEFT THAT PRACTICE.

BUT THE, THE C P CONDITION PROHIBITS A TRANSFER TO ANOTHER, UM, UH, VETERINARIAN OR ANOTHER USER.

UM, THAT IS PART OF THE REQUEST TONIGHT.

UH, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THE CURRENT APPLICANTS NOW, UM, ACTUALLY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

SO A LITTLE BIT OF EXPLANATION OF HOW IT WORKS IN THE A TWO ZONING.

UM, AND THE HOUSING OF YOUR OWN ANIMALS IS PERMITTED.

UH, C P USES THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE VETERINARY SERVICE, UM, AND EQUESTRIAN SCHOOL WHERE YOU'RE TRAINING OTHERS TO RIDE AND A HORSE RIDING STABLE WHERE YOU ACTUALLY, YOU COULD BE BOARDING AND, UM, STABLING OTHER PEOPLE'S, UM, HORSES FOR PROFIT THAT, SO, YOU KNOW, THESE EACH ARE CONDITIONAL USES.

THE, THERE IS SOME DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ADDITIONALLY RELATED TO THE HORSE RIDING STABLE.

UM, WHAT'S APPLICABLE IN THIS SCENARIO IS THE PROPERTY IS MUCH LARGER THAN FIVE ACRES.

UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY THAT ARE LESS THAN 150 FEET FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY LINES.

UM, IF THEY CAN'T MEET THAT CONDITION THAT IS PART OF THE C P REQUEST, IT CAN BE APPROVED OR ALLOWED THROUGH THE PROCESS.

THERE ARE EXISTING BARNS AND OTHER STRUCTURES THAT WOULD BE RELATED TO THE EQUESTRIAN USES THAT ARE APPROXIMATELY 47 FEET IS THE CLOSEST, WHICH IS LESS THAN REQUIRED.

UM, AS WE'LL DISCUSS TONIGHT.

PART OF THE C P REQUEST IS TO ALLOW THOSE EXISTING BUILDINGS TO BE LOCATED CLOSER THAN 150 FEET.

SO PART OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TONIGHT IS TO REMOVE THE PROHIBITION ON THE TRANSFERRING OF THE CEP P FOR THE ANIMAL CLINIC OR VETERINARY SERVICE TO ANOTHER USER.

UM, AS MENTIONED SAW ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, THERE IS ANOTHER USER INTERESTED IN USING THIS VETERINARY SERVICES.

AND THEN FURTHER THEY REQUEST TO APPROVE, UM, NEW EQUINE RELATED USES, UM, TO BE INCLUDED IN EQUESTRIAN SCHOOL AND THE HORSE RIDING STABLE, UM, WHICH WILL BE LOCATED WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET.

THE NEAREST PROPERTY LINE, THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT'S ON THE, UM, LEFT HAND SIDE WITH THOSE RED DOTS OR THE POTENTIAL BUILDINGS RELATED TO THAT USE.

SORRY, WE'RE SETTING A LITTLE MOON HERE.

I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU SEE THIS CLEARLY.

UM, AND THEN IF YOU CAN SEE, OR CLEARLY NOW HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS ACTUALLY THE EXISTING FACILITIES RELATED TO THE BOTH VETERINARIAN AND THE EXISTING HORSE USE.

THERE ARE A LOT OF STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY REALLY RELATED TO THIS.

UM, I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL FOR EACH ONE OF 'EM, BUT IT'S CLEARLY BY THE IDENTIFIED USES.

THIS IS INTENDED TO BE A VERY EC ONE FOCUSED PROJECT.

UM, AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS DO REQUIRE 150 FOOT SETBACK FROM A PROPERTY LINE A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE ROAD.

UM, THE PRIMARY FACILITIES ARE ABOUT 800 FEET, UM, FROM FROM CARDWELL ROAD.

THE OTHER, IF YOU SEE, THERE ARE SOME BUILDINGS HERE DEMONSTRATING A LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER THAT ARE ABOUT 47 FEET.

SOME THAT ARE ABOUT 110 FEET.

UM, AGAIN, THEY'RE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO ANOTHER, UM, EQUINE FACILITY.

THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD IN MAY WITH FOUR PEOPLE INTENDING.

UM, THEY ADDRESSED ISSUES SUCH AS OUTDOOR LINING, ANIMAL WAYS, UH, POTENTIAL TRAFFIC, AND THE HUNT CLUB ACTIVITIES.

THERE WERE GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION.

WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE EMAIL AND ONE LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST IN JULY.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION ON A FIVE IN VOTE.

NO ONE SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

GO THROUGH THESE C P CONDITIONS.

KEEP IN MIND, SOME OF THESE ARE CHANGES RELATED TO HOW WE MORE ADDRESS THINGS THROUGH MODERN PROCEDURES.

I MEAN, ARE MORE MODERN CONDITIONS.

ORIGINALLY A 1985 CASE AND THINGS THAT CAME ABOUT DURING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL, THE EXISTING USE THAT WAS ALREADY THERE WAS VETERINARY SERVICES THERE, ALSO REQUESTING THE EQUESTRIAN SCHOOL AND THE HORSE RIDING STABLE TO BE LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE STRIKEOUT FROM THE, UM, ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION OF LANGUAGE, THIS IS THE CONDITION THAT CAME OUT FROM THE COMMISSION, WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW THE EXISTING BARN STABLES RINGS AND OTHER, UH, UNITS THAT ARE PREEXISTING THAT ARE LESS THAN 150 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO BE CONTINUED FOR THE USE.

BUT ANY NEW BUILDINGS WOULD HAVE TO BE LOCATED FURTHER BACK.

UM, TO MEET THE STANDARD, THERE'S A MAXIMUM 39 HORSES TO INCLUDE THE OWNERS THAT MAY BE PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, THERE'S PERMITTED FOUR, FOUR HORSE SHOWS PER YEAR.

UM, CONDITION THAT WE STANDARDLY USE REGARDING AMPLIFIED SOUND INSIDE OF STRUCTURES AND THE ADDITIONAL PROVISION FOR HANDHELD MEGAPHONES FOR THE DAYTIME USE AT THE WRITING RINGS.

UM, ONE SIGN WAS ALREADY

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WILL CONTINUE TO BE PERMITTED FOR THE PROPERTY.

UH, THE QUESTION USES IS LIMITED TO 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM PER DAY.

UM, LIGHTING PLANS PRETTY STANDARD THAT THEY HAVE TO MEET TYPE OF STANDARD PROVISIONS.

UM, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT THAT'S BEEN UPDATED REGARDING COMPLIANCE WITH COUNTY AND STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, UM, STANDARDS RELATED TO THE OPERATION OF THE FACILITY IN THE VETERINARY SERVICES.

UM, AGAIN, THE NO SMALL ANIMALS WILL BE TREATED NOR BOARDED ON THE PROPERTY.

UH, THE C P UM, EXPIRATION FOR THE SCHOOL AND THE HORSE RIDING STABLE.

THESE BEING NEW USES, WE FOLLOW OUR STANDARD, UM, APPROVAL REQUESTS, BUT TYPICALLY WHERE YOU HAVE A NEW C E P STAFF AND, UH, PUTS FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF, OF APPROVAL FOR FIVE YEARS AFTER WHICH THEY CAN COME FORWARD IN SEEK RENEWAL.

THE VETERINARY SERVICE ALREADY DID NOT HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE.

STAFF IS NOT RECOMMENDING THAT WE NOW IMPOSE A, UM, A PROVISION FOR THAT.

UM, AND NOW WITH THE REMOVAL THAT YOU COULDN'T TRANSFER THE CEP P OF THE VETERINARY SERVICE, UM, THIS WILL GO TO OUR STANDARD TRANSFER LEASE CONDITION THAT YOU NOTIFY US AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF ANY CONDITIONS ON THE PROPERTY IF YOU TRANSFER STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

THERE'S ALSO THE APPLICANT HERE AS WELL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM OUR THANK YOU MR. CASH.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING AT THE TIME? COME ON UP.

HI, I'M HILLARY ANGUS.

I GO BY WINNIE.

UM, WE JUST BOUGHT THE PROPERTY IN MARCH AND WE'RE CURRENTLY JUST OPERATING AS A BOARDING FACILITY.

ACTUALLY, THE VETERINARY SERVICE THAT WAS THERE HAS MOVED TO A DIFFERENT PROPERTY.

UM, BUT I FEEL STRONGLY THAT KIND OF PROTECTING THE PROPERTY AS A HORSE PROPERTY, GIVING IT THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WILL ALLOW IT TO CONTINUE AS A HORSE PROPERTY.

IF FOR SOME REASON IT EVER LEFT OUR CARE, WE OBVIOUSLY INTEND TO KEEP IT AS ONE.

IT'S A REALLY WELL LOVED FARM IN THE COMMUNITY.

I'M A VETERINARIAN BECAUSE OF THE MENTORSHIP I RECEIVE THERE.

UM, THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, A GROWING SHORTAGE OF EQUINE VETERINARIANS AND GIVEN GIN'S, YOU KNOW, STRONG EQUINE HERITAGE, I FEEL LIKE PROTECTING THE RIGHT OF IT AS AN EQUINE FACILITY WILL, WILL BE IMPORTANT FOR THAT PROPERTY.

I'M NOT CURRENTLY PLANNING TO RUN A FACILITY THERE.

I HAPPILY EMPLOYED AT WOODSIDE EQUINE, WHICH IS IN ASHLAND.

UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY AS A VETERINARY FACILITY IF IT WANTED TO BE, IF WE WANTED TO, OR A FUTURE OWNER WANTED TO USE IT BECAUSE IT IS REALLY WELL ESTABLISHED AND SET UP AS ONE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR SANUS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR, OKAY, I SEEING THAT I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THOSE THAT WISH TO COME UP IN SUPPORT OR HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THIS, PLEASE COME UP TO THE MIC.

GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN.

LADIES, JONATHAN LY 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.

UM, I AM A CONSERVATION DIRECTOR FOR MONICA AND SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND A MEMBER OF THE, UH, GIN FARM BUREAU.

UM, JONATHAN'S PARENTS OBVIOUSLY HAD GOOD TASTE IN PICKING NAMES.

UM, I HOPE THAT, UH, YOU WILL SUPPORT THIS AND MIGHT EVEN SUGGEST IF THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION ON THE IDEAS THAT YOU MIGHT EXTEND THE C U P TO 10 YEARS.

UM, THERE ARE MORE HORSES IN GIN.

THERE ARE STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, AND SO WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR HORSES AS MUCH AS WE WOULD OUR STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS.

I THINK.

AND, YOU KNOW, HORSES DON'T CALL 9 1 1.

I MEAN, THEY, THEY ARE NOT A TAX OR A A, A DRAIN ON COUNTY RESOURCES.

SO IF WE CAN CONTINUE PART OF THE AGRICULTURAL AND EQUINE HISTORY HERE IN THE COUNTY, I WOULD CERTAINLY ENCOURAGE US TO DO THAT.

UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A PROCEDURE OF FIVE YEARS ON A NEW C U P, BUT I BELIEVE THIS ONE IS REALLY A CONTINUATION WITH SOME CHANGES.

AND SO IF IT COULD BE EXTENDED, OF COURSE, IF THEY ONLY WANT TO DO FIVE YEARS, I DEFER TO THEM.

BUT IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK IN FIVE YEARS, BUT IN 10, I, I WOULD, UH, ENCOURAGE THAT BECAUSE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO STAY MORE RURAL IN AGRICULTURE.

SO THERE'S MY COMMENTS.

I SUPPORT IT.

I HOPE YOU WILL ALSO.

AND IF, UH, I WERE ON THE DIAZ, I'D OFFER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MAKE IT A 10 YEAR CU P INSTEAD OF FIVE, BUT I'M NOT.

ANYONE ELSE WISH TO COME FORWARD? OKAY, SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BOARD, DO I HAVE A MOTION? COMMENTS DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIR? YES, MR. SHARP.

I MOVED THAT THE BOARD APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT C 1985 DASH 0 0 0 0 2 A TO REMOVE THE TRANSFER RESTRICTION CONDITION AND ALLOW AN EQUESTRIAN SCHOOL AND HORSE RIDING STABLE AT 1625 CARDWELL ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS

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AS PRESENTED.

I'LL SECOND IT.

THANK YOU MR. SHARP.

MR. LUMPKINS, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BOARD THAT INCLUDE TO 10? NO, NO.

MSLA IS THAT FOR NOW OR? WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO ACCEPT AMENDMENT TO GO TO 10 YEARS.

I WOULD ACCEPT THAT AS IS CHAIRS CLARIFICATION, THAT'S NOT JUST FOR THE VETERINARY SERVICES.

THAT WOULD BE FOR THE OTHER PERMITTED, RIGHT.

FOR THE ENTIRE CONDITIONAL USES THE EQUESTRIAN SCHOOL AND WE SHOULD CHECK WITH THE APPLICANT AND SEE IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE THAT WOULD BE MY COMMENT IS LET'S ASK THE APPLICANT.

THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I DO WANNA CLARIFY THE VETERINARY SERVICES AS CURRENTLY, UM, PROVIDE DOES NOT HAVE A, UM, EXPIRATION DATE.

IS THAT PREEXISTED? SO THERE'S NO EXPIRATION ON THE, ON THAT.

BUT THE TWO NEW USES AS STAFF PROPOSED CONDITIONS WOULD BE FIVE YEARS ON EQUINE STABLE EQUINE FACILITY AND THE, UM, COURSE RIDING STABLE.

SO, BUT WHAT I HEARD THIS IS IN APPLICANT, I THINK THE APPLICANT WOULD SUPPORT A 10 YEAR RENEWAL.

THANK YOU FOR YOU MR. CASH.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UM, SO MR. LUMPKINS, YOU WERE THE SECOND.

I THANK YOU MR. LBA PAYING ATTENTION TO THE RULES? YES, EXCEPT I ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

CONGRATULATIONS WHENEVER YOU'RE PERMITTING RIGHT NOW.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MR. CARPENTER? MR. PETERSON? YES.

MOVING ON TO OUR SECOND CASE.

[2. 5438: District 5 - CU-2007-00007B Application by Markel Properties, LLC and]

ALL RIGHT, THE SECOND ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS ALSO A RENEWAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

UM, AGAIN, AGAIN, EVEN INTO, UM, THERE WAS, AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, I AM RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

UH, THIS CASE IS MARCO PROPERTIES, AS WELL AS THE RICHMOND STRIKER SOCCER CLUB.

UH, THIS IS, UH, AGAIN, A CASE THAT WAS APPROVED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, UM, IN 2007.

TO BE SPECIFIC, UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY LOCATED IN THE WEST CREEK DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AS SEEN ON THE MAP, IT'S IN THE SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED IN ONE AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING TIES.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S AT THE ACTUAL INTERSECTION OR INTERCHANGE OF ROUTE 2 88 IN WEST CREEK PROPERTY.

I MEAN WEST CREEK PARKWAY.

THIS IS LOCATED WITHIN OUR PRE ME DEVELOPMENT AREA.

AS YOU SEE IN THE AREA, THERE'S A LARGE EXISTING SOCCER FACILITY.

UH, GENERALLY THE OUTLINED GREEN FIELDS, THERE IS PARKING, BATHROOM RELATED FACILITIES TO THAT USE.

THERE IS ALSO, UM, EXISTING PARKING FACILITIES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT FOR A DIFFERENT USER MANY YEARS AGO, BACK IN 2007 WHEN THIS WAS TRANSFERRED OVER.

A LITTLE SUMMARY OF THE APPLICATION, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR RENEWAL OF THE C P, UH, WAS PREVIOUSLY ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2007, RENEWED IN 2012 FOR 10 YEARS, AND WE'RE BACK AGAIN.

THE PROPERTY DOES APPEAR TO COMPLY WITH THE CONDITIONS AND THERE ARE NO REPORTED ZONING VIOLATIONS.

UH, THE PARKING AREA SPECIFICALLY, THOSE UNRELATED TO THE FACILITY ARE NOT REALLY MAINTAINED TOWARD THE STANDARD.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT ON, BUT DOES NOT AFFECT THE USE OF THE FACILITY.

UH, THE APPLICANT DOES REQUEST A 10 YEAR RENEWAL.

A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, THERE'S A DIFFERENT TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS USE.

THERE ARE, UH, RECREATIONAL SERVING USE.

THERE'S ALSO A DESIGN WHEN THEY CAN HAVE TOURNAMENT FIELDS.

UH, THE TRADITIONAL USE DOES ITSELF SERVE AS A REASONABLE INTERIM USE.

UH, FOLLOWING THE DEPARTMENT OF DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED USER, THE USE SERVES AS A PRACTICE GAME AND TOURNAMENT FACILITY FOR THE YOUTH.

SOCCER CONDITIONS DO LIMIT THE FACILITY 12 TOURNAMENTS PER YEAR.

UH, FIELDS ARE MADE AVAILABLE TO GIN, PARKS AND RECREATION, AS WELL AS GIN UNITED SOCCER.

ON MUTUALLY AGREEABLE TERMS, TRAFFIC, TOURNAMENT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT AND EMS ARE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE APPLICANT, WHICH HELPS ALLEVIATE SOME STRAIN ON POTENTIAL PUBLIC SERVICES FOR THE AREA.

UM, TOURNAMENTS AT THE FACILITY DO GENERATE INCOME AND REVENUE INTO THE REGIONAL ECONOMY THROUGH HOTEL STAYS, RETAIL RESTAURANTS, TYPICAL TYPE OF TOURIST, UM, UH, UH, RETURN IN A, IN A COMMUNITY, UH, THE USE DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THIS IS OUR PRE PRO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA, WHICH IS INTENDED TO ATTRACT CORPORATE INVESTMENT, UH, GENERATE JOBS, PROVIDE, UM, ENHANCEMENT TO THE COUNTY TAX BASE AND THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.

FOR CALLS FOR HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE CONCERN WOULD BE LONG TERM USE.

SO THE INVESTMENT IN THE PROPERTY IS LESS THAN WHAT IS EXPECTED AND SHOULD BE REEVALUATED OVER TIME, UM,

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FOR RETURN ON UTILITY, AS WELL AS, UM, OTHER PUBLIC RESOURCES COMMITMENT.

UM, PART OF THAT IS MARKEL EAGLE, WHO IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, IS LEASES THIS PROPERTY ON A MONTH TO MONTH BASE BASIS WITH RICHMOND STRIKERS.

SO THE OPPORTUNITY SHOULD THE LEASE, UM, GO AWAY OR AN OP CONNECT THEM, AN OPPORTUNITY BE SEEN, OR THE, THAT THE OWNER MARKEL EAGLE SEE AN OPPORTUNITY, IT COULD BE TURNED OVER PRETTY QUICKLY.

A COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELP, UM, BY THE SOCCER CLUB IN MAY OF THIS YEAR.

UH, THE CITIZEN THAT DID ATTEND THE ONE CITIZEN EXPRESSED SUPPORTIVE RENEWAL.

STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO COMMENTS REGARDING THE APPLICATION, NOR DID ANYONE SPEAK AGAINST IT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING.

SO APPROVAL OF THE QUEST WOULD DO A COUPLE THINGS.

THEY WOULD RENEW THE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL UNTIL AUGUST 31ST, 2032.

IT WOULD RETAIN ALL OTHER PREVIOUS CONDITIONS.

UH, THE PLANET COMMISSION, UH, DID COME FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATION OF FIVE ZERO TO APPROVE THE RENEWAL FOR 10 YEARS.

STAFF'S ORIGINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS FIVE YEAR BASED UPON THE ECONOMIC CONCERNS.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED THROUGH THE APPLICANT'S, UH, WILLING COMMITMENT.

SO, CD CONDITIONS QUICKLY, UH, 12 TOURNAMENTS A YEAR.

THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, EMS FACILITIES.

THERE MUST BE ADULT SUPERVISION.

THERE'S PROTECTIONS FOR LIGHTING, SIDE MANAGE FIELD SETBACKS, UM, RESTROOM FACILITY.

UM, THERE IS A BENEFIT FOR PARKS AND REC AND THE SOCCER CLUB AND GLAND TO USE IT.

UM, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT, UH, SHOULD IT BE DETERMINED THAT INSUFFICIENT EMS SERVICES AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOT BE ADDRESSED.

WE COULD CE THE USE UNTIL A, UM, ADEQUATE FACILITY, UM, ADEQUATE, UH, PUBLIC SERVICES ARE PROVIDED.

UM, THERE IS THE STANDARD PROVISION ABOUT THE PROPERTY TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP AND AS CONDITION, THE CP WOULD EXPIRE IN AUGUST 31ST, 2032.

STAFF, OF COURSE, IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT AS WELL.

SHOULD YOU, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I, MR. CASH? MR. WALKERS, MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST ONE QUESTION.

, IN THE BEGINNING, YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT THE, OR THE PARKING LOT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE.

ARE WE ONLY ADDRESSING THAT OR THAT ONLY COME TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE OF THIS PROCESS? UM, IT IS THAT THAT PARKING AREA IS USUALLY ONLY USED IN THE OVERFLOW, UM, FOR THIS.

BUT IT ALSO IS USED BY OTHER USERS IN THE AREA FOR OTHER DIFFERENT EVENTS.

UM, IT'S REACHED A STAGE WHERE, UM, IT'S THE KEY CONTINUALLY AND SOMETHING WE'D LIKE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO TRY TO UP UPDATE OR FIND A WAY TO BETTER MAINTAIN IT.

SO DOESN'T BECOME A PROBLEM, BUT AT THIS POINT, WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT WARRANTS DENIAL, THE C P RENEWAL.

SURE.

BUT, BUT THEY'RE ASKING FOR A 10 YEAR, AND I GUESS I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF THIS IS ONLY COMING UP NOW BECAUSE OF THIS PROCESS.

IT IS, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE SOME ASSURANCES.

I MEAN, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IF IT COMES UP AGAIN IN FIVE YEARS OR 10 YEARS, I SUPPOSE MM-HMM.

BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE HAD SOME ASSURANCES THAT IT WAS BEING ADDRESSED AND WOULD CONTINUE TO BE ADDRESSED VERSUS WAITING FOR AN APPLICATION.

AND, AND IF IT WON'T BE, THEN MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE A SHORTER TERM.

UM, BUT I JUST, MAYBE WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT ON THE COUNTY TOO, TO, TO, YOU KNOW, MONITOR JUST YEAH.

AND FOR, IT'S BEEN PART OF US TO MONITOR IT AND SEEK IT OVER TIME.

UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT JUST APPEARS THEY, THEY'VE SORT OF REACHED A CERTAIN STAGE OF LIFE ON THAT PARKING.

UM, AND, AND SO PART OF THIS WAS TO MAKE THE APPLICANT AWARE AND TRY TO START WORKING ON SOLUTIONS FOR THAT.

UM, THANK AND THE APPLICANT, WE SHOULD ADDRESS THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

DOES THE APPLICANT WANT TO COME FORWARD? AND GOOD EVENING.

UH, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, MR. CARPENTER AND MS. MCGEE? MY NAME IS ANDY.

COMMON HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT WHO'S SOMEWHERE IN HERE.

I'VE LOST MY, MY, MY, UH, CLIENT SOMEWHERE IN HERE.

BUT THE MR. CASH, AS USUAL, DID A VERY GOOD JOB OF OUTLINING THIS PROPERTY.

WE WERE UP FOR RENEWAL ALREADY OPERATING FOR 15 YEARS.

I THINK SUCCESS SUCCESSFULLY OPERATING AND BEING A REAL BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, AND NOT ONLY FOR THE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND THE GLAND PARKS AND REC, BUT ALSO FOR THE SPORTS TOURISM AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT IT PROVIDES.

UH, IT WAS BROUGHT THROUGH THE, UH, C PROCESS ABOUT THE CONCERN REGARDING THE PARKING LOT.

THAT PARTICULAR PARKING LOT IS USED BY MULTIPLE USERS, NOT JUST RICHMOND STRIKERS, UH, SOCCER CLUB, BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO COMMIT, NO COMMIT ON BEHALF OF THEM, THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH STAFF AND UPGRADE AND UPDATE THAT PARKING LOT IS NECESSARY.

AGAIN, THAT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS ON THEIR RADAR.

AND ONLY THROUGH THIS PROCESS DID IT COME UP, BUT AGAIN, MULTIPLE PEOPLE USE IT, BUT THEY'RE WILLING TO TAKE OVER TO HELP ASSIST WITH THAT, TO BRING THAT UP TO UP TO GRADE.

SO WITH THAT, I'D ASK THAT YOU FILED THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND APPROVE THIS C AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

MISS CON.

ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY.

AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SCENE.

OOPS.

PLEASE JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES.

WITH THE RICHMOND STRIKERS.

MY NAME IS CHRIS FRY, AND I'M

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SO I'M PART OF THE APPLICANT.

UM, I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING LOT JUST TO FURTHER GIVE YOU CLEARANCE ON THAT.

SO OUR PARKING LOT THAT WE USE, THERE ARE FOUR PRIMARY PARKING LOTS.

WE USE ONE.

AND ESSENTIALLY THAT PARKING LOT, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO STAFF.

AND WHAT THEY'VE TALKED TO US ABOUT IS COMPLETELY UP TO CODE OR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO MAINTAIN IT, MAKE IT APPEAR LIKE IT'S, UH, FUNCTIONAL.

IT'S THE OTHER THREE PARKING LOTS THAT WE RARELY USE, IF AT ALL.

I MEAN, REALLY MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR.

THERE'S SOME OTHER PEOPLE, UM, THAT USE THOSE PARKING LOTS AND SO FORTH.

BUT WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH MARKEL TO GET THOSE OTHER THREE PARKING LOTS UP TO STANDARD.

BUT, UM, FOR THE MOST PART, OUR PARKING LOT IS, UH, MAINTAINED AND HAS BEEN MAINTAINED FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.

SO, OTHER THAN THAT, I, WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING.

ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS? NO FRIEND, OFFICIALLY IN THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO COME AND SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS PROJECT? SEEING NONE, FIND MY GAVEL.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

BOARD, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? JUST TO CONFIRM THE, UH, UM, RESOLUTION IN THE PACKET, UM, REFLECTS THE, THE 10 YEARS THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON A FIVE OH BASIS.

THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.

NO NEED TO AMEND IT.

IF WE WERE GONNA DO THE, THE 10 YEAR, IT ALREADY SAYS 2032.

GOTCHA.

WELL, BASED ON THAT, THEN, I WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE THAT THE GIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, CU 2007 SEVEN B AS IN BRAVO FOR ATHLETIC FIELDS AT 12 5 75 WEST CREEK PARKWAY, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.

UM, WE, WE ASK VERY KINDLY THAT YOU WOULD REFRAIN FROM MANY OUTBURSTS.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MR. CARPENTER? MS. LASETTE? YES.

I THINK SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THE NEXT CASE.

UM, UH, BEFORE MS. HUNTER STARTS, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT STUFF.

WE REALLY DO WANT TO HAVE A GREAT EVENING TONIGHT.

[3. 5449: District 4 - RZ-2022-00006 Application by PDC TN/FL LPIV, LLC]

WE KNOW THIS IS A PASSIONATE, I MEAN, OUR INBOX IS, TELL US THIS IS A PASSIONATE SUBJECT.

SO, UH, BUT WE DO WANT TO RESPECT EVERYBODY.

THERE ARE PEOPLE FOR AND AGAINST THIS PROJECT.

SO TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL WELCOME, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AS, AS NEUTRAL AND SPEAKING.

WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING, PLEASE SPEAK TO THE BOARD.

THIS IS FOR THE BOARD.

UM, THIS IS, UH, THESE ARE, THEY WILL BE COMMENTS.

UM, IT'S NOT A DIALOGUE.

WE DON'T GET A DISCUSSION.

THE, AS YOU SAW FOR THE FIRST TWO CASES, SOME OF YOU MAY NOT HAVE SEEN THIS PROCESS BEFORE.

STAFF WILL BE PRESENTING AND THEN WE'LL GIVE THE APPLICANT A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND THE BOARD MAY ASK QUESTIONS.

THEN I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WHAT WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO DO, BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY FULL ROOM, AND I KNOW PEOPLE WANT, WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, UM, TO PLEASE COME DOWN AND SIT IN THE FIRST ROSE AND THEN COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE ONE AT A TIME.

OR IF YOU'RE GONNA GIVE YOUR TIME TO DO THAT, WHAT THAT'LL DO, THAT'LL HELP GET TO THE NEXT PERSON.

BECAUSE TYPICALLY WHAT'LL HAPPEN A ROOM LIKE THIS, SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO GET OVER PEOPLE AND JUST LENGTHENS THE PROCESS.

SO IF I DON'T SEE ANYBODY SITTING IN THE SEATS, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO PLEASE, UH, COME FORWARD AND JUST, UH, KIND OF STAGE THERE AND YOU'LL BE IN THE OND DECK CIRCLE AND THEN YOU'LL BE UP TO BAT.

UM, ALSO, WE DO STILL HAVE THE OVERFLOW ROOM AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS.

UM, ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARING IS OPEN, UH, THE APPLICANT, I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AND ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT THEY HAVE HEARD.

ANY QUESTIONS, UM, CUZ IT'S, IT IS A LITTLE ODD, YOU ASK A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND WE DON'T GIVE YOU ANSWERS.

UH, BUT THE APPLICANT COME UP AND CAN COME UP AND ADDRESS THEM.

AND THEN I WILL ASK THE BOARD FOR MOTION OR ANY DISCUSSION, AND THEN WE'LL, WE WILL DISCUSS AND TALK ABOUT IT.

AND TYPICALLY, AS, AS OUR CONVERSATION GOES, WE WILL ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT COME UP.

UM, AND THEN, UH, WE WILL TAKE A VOTE AND LET'S SEE WHERE WE ARE.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GREAT EVENING, RIGHT? YEAH.

HEAD'S NOT ALL RIGHT.

AWESOME.

IT'S HOT IN HERE TOO, SO.

UH, MS. HUNTER? YES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE COUNTY ON 1990 ASHLAND ROAD.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, MR. CARPENTER, JOANNE HUNTER, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.

UH, THE NEXT TWO CASES WILL BE COMBINED INTO ONE PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE WILL BE NEED TO BE TWO SEPARATE VOTES.

UM, SO THE FIRST APPLICATION IS A REZONING RZ 2022 DASH OH SIX FOR 105 ACRES, UH, REQUESTING REZONING FROM A TWO AGRICULTURAL LIMITED TO M TWO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL.

AND THEN THE COMPANION CASE IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW FOR A BUILDING TO BE CONSTRUCTED UP TO 120 FEET, WHICH IS, UH, UH, ALLOWED BY SECTION 15 2 73, WHICH IS IN THE M TWO ZONING DISTRICT.

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UH, THIS IS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UH, THE PINK AREA IS, WHICH THIS IS DESIGNATED, IS DESIGNATED FLEXIBLE.

UM, AND IF YOU LOOK IN THE DEFINITION OF FLEXIBLE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT REFERENCES COMMERCIAL OFFICE, OFFICE SERVICE, OR INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES.

UH, THE PURPLE ON THE COMP PLAN, UH, MAP THERE THAT YOU SEE REFERENCES, INDUSTRIAL USES.

AND IT CORRESPONDS GENERALLY TO THE M TWO ZONING DISTRICT.

UM, THAT IS, YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE ZONING MAP.

SO ALL OF THE PURPLE PROPERTIES, UH, SURROUNDING THIS ON THREE SIDES ARE ZONED M TWO, WHICH IS THE SAME REZONING, UM, CLASSIFICATION THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.

UM, AND THE GREEN AREAS ARE A TWO PROPERTIES.

SO ASHLAND ROAD IS, UH, IDENTIFIED IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS OUR INDUSTRIAL ROAD CORRIDOR, UH, WITH ITS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO, UH, INTERSTATE 64.

SO THE PROPERTY IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED, IT'S 105 ACRES.

SO TO THE SOUTH HERE YOU HAVE THE MARTIN MARIETTA, COREY TO THE NORTH, YOU HAVE, UH, THE ROCKVILLE COMMERCE INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHICH IS ALSO ZONED M TWO.

AND THEN DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET YOU HAVE THE LUCK QUARRY, THE LUCK MAINTENANCE FACILITY, AND THE LANDFILL PROPERTY, WHICH IS LOCATED HERE.

THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL USES THAT FRONT ALONG ROCKVILLE ROAD HERE.

UM, THERE IS A LARGE STOCKPILE LOCATED HERE.

AND AS I GET INTO THE CON CONCEPT PLAN, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE APPLICANT IS NOT DEVELOPING THIS REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH WILL PROVIDE SOME BUFFER TO THOSE, UH, RESIDENCES ALONG ROCKVILLE ROAD.

SO WHAT THE USE IS PROPOSED IS A MULTISTORY ECOMMERCE FULFILLMENT CENTER.

UM, WHAT THIS FULFILLMENT CENTER CENTER IS, IS THE MIDDLE OF THE SUPPLY CHAIN.

UM, THE PRODUCT THAT WOULD BE STORED HERE WOULD COME FROM PLACES SUCH AS THE PORT OF VIRGINIA.

IT WOULD COME TO THIS FACILITY, IT'S TEMPORARILY STORED AT THIS FACILITY, UM, RESTOCKED SORT IT.

AND THEN IT IS SENT TO OTHER LAST MILE FACILITIES.

SO THIS IS NOT A LAST MILE FACILITY.

THERE WOULD BE NONE OF THE, UH, SMALL VANS OR SMALL CARS OR THINGS LIKE THIS.

THIS IS ALL TRACTOR TRAILER TRAFFIC COMING, TAKING THE PRODUCT, STORING IT TEMPORARILY, DISTRIBUTING IT TO OTHER FACILITIES.

UM, THE BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO BE 650,000 SQUARE FEET.

UH, IT WOULD INCLUDE 55 LOADING DOCKS, 414 TRUCK TRAILER PARKING, UM, 1,720 EMPLOYEE PARKING SPACES.

UH, THE GENERAL EMPLOYMENT WILL BE, UH, SOMEWHERE AROUND A THOUSAND PEOPLE.

UM, AND THEY WOULD BE WORKING IN SHIFTS WITH THE SHIFTS BEING ABOUT 600 TO 700 PEOPLE PER SHIFT.

UM, THEY DO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING BECAUSE DURING THE SEASONAL HOLIDAYS THEY DO INCREASE EMPLOYMENT.

UM, SO THE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES WOULD MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE EMPLOYEES CAN PARK ON SITE.

THIS IS, UH, WHILE IT'S A VERY TALL BUILDING, OVER A HUNDRED FEET, UM, IT IS JUST WORKERS ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

UM, THERE IS OFFICE AND PACKING AND SORTING AREAS.

THE REST OF THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING ARE FOR AP OPEN ATRIUM STYLE, UH, ROBOTIC EQUIPMENT.

UM, SO WHILE IT'S A TALL BUILDING, ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES ARE ONLY ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

AND THIS, UH, FACILITY WOULD BE A 24 HOUR, SEVEN DAY A WEEK OPERATION.

SO THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN, AND I'M GONNA JUST SHOW YOU GENERALLY AND THEN ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT.

SO THIS IS THE AREA, THIS IS ASHLYN ROAD, JUST TO GET YOU ORIENTED.

UM, SO THE MARTIN MARIETTA QUARRY IS LOCATED IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH.

THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF A SETBACK FROM ASHLAND ROAD.

UM, THIS WOULD BE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PONDS AND LANDSCAPING.

UM, AS I SAID, THERE WAS SOME RESIDENCES ALONG ROCKVILLE ROAD, HOWEVER, THERE IS THIS CREEK HERE ALONG THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, SO NO DEVELOPMENT WOULD OCCUR IN THIS LOCATION.

UM, AND THEN THE BACK OF THE, THIS IS WHERE THE LOADING DOCKS WOULD BE, AND THAT WOULD B BACK UP TO THE ROCKVILLE COMMERCE INDUSTRIAL PARK.

SO HERE'S A LITTLE ZOOMED IN AREA OF IT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE LANDSCAPING ALONG ASHLAND ROAD.

UH, THIS WOULD BE A LARGE BEM.

THERE'D BE GREEN LANDSCAPING SURROUNDING IT.

NO DEVELOPMENT BACK HERE.

AND JUST SHOWING YOU HOW THE SITE WOULD OPERATE.

THIS WOULD BE A PROPOSED, A NEW SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION, NOT A PROPOSED INTERSECTION.

IT WOULD BE A SIGNALED INTERSECTION.

UM, THIS WOULD BE A DIVIDED MEDIAN ENTRANCE.

SO IF YOU WERE A TRUCK COMING INTO THE FACILITY, YOU WOULD COME IN HERE, COME DOWN HERE.

THIS WOULD

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BE A GATE, A GATED ENTRANCE.

AND THEN THEY COULD COME IN HERE, THIS WOULD BE TRUCK PARKING.

YOU'D COME AROUND THE BUILDING, THE LOADING DOCKS ARE ALL LOCATED ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE HERE.

THEN THEY WOULD FOLLOW OUT AND BACK OUT TO ASHLAND ROAD.

THE EMPLOYEES WOULD COME IN THE SAME ENTRANCE.

THERE'S ONE ENTRANCE ON ASHLAND ROAD.

THEY WOULD COME DOWN, GO PAST THE TRUNK ENTRANCE, AND THEN COME ALONG HERE AND GO TO THE PARKING AREAS HERE.

THIS IS A, A CONCEPTUAL IMAGE OF WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE, SHOWING THE PARKING AND LANDSCAPING.

UM, IN TERMS OF THE REQUEST, UH, FOR THE M TWO ZONING, UH, THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AS I ALREADY SAID, THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE COUNTY HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS THE COUNTY'S INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.

THE REQUEST IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC GOALS, WHICH ENCOURAGES INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT NEAR THE I 64 INTERCHANGES.

UM, LAST YEAR THE ED DID FUND A STUDY, UM, THAT WAS DONE THROUGH THE VIRGINIA TECH OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE HAD THEM LOOK AT, UH, WHAT SHOULD THE COUNTY PURSUING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THEY DID A FULL ANALYSIS OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND ONE OF THE, THEY CAME UP WITH SIX TARGETED INDUSTRIES, BUT DUE TO THE PRIME LOCATION OF THE COUNTY, CENTRALLY LOCATED ON THE EASTERN SEABOARD AND OUR OUTSTANDING ACCESS TO 64 AND 2 88 LOGISTICS, WHICH INCLUDES DISTRIBUTION, WAS IDENTIFIED AS A MARKET MARKET THAT WE SHOULD TARGET FOR, UH, NEW BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY.

UM, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO, UH, DIRECTS, UH, GROWTH TO AREAS WHERE THEIR EXISTING UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT.

THE APPLICANT BEFORE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HOOK UP TO WATER AND SEWER, WOULD NEED TO APPLY AND ENTER THE T C S D AND WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE ADAL TAX.

SO ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES WITH THE, THE PROJECT, OF COURSE, IS TRANSPORTATION.

UM, THE EXISTING, UH, TRAFFIC CONDITIONS ALONG ASHLAND ROAD AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT A DISTRIBUTION CENTER WILL CREATE.

UM, SO TRUCK TRAFFIC, UM, IS NOT PROJECTED TO USE.

THE INTERCHANGE HAVE A MAP SHOWING THAT I WAS GONNA SHOW YOU WHY WE BELIEVE THAT TRUCK TRAFFIC WOULD NOT IMPACT THE ASHLAND ROAD AND BOUNCY TRACK.

UM, BUT YOU DO HAVE ON YOUR DI EMAIL THAT I GOT RECEIVED JUST PRIOR TO THE MEETING.

UM, AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO REVISE THEIR PROFFERS.

UM, AND THEY WILL BE ADDING A PROFFER TO ADDRESS NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS, STATING THAT NO TRUCKS SHALL BE PERMITTED TO TURN LEFT FROM THE SITE ONTO ASHLAND ROAD.

THAT WOULD BE GOING NORTHBOUND.

SIGNAGE SHALL BE PLACED ON SITE, PROHIBITING TRUCKS FROM MAKING SUCH LEFT TURNS ONTO ASHLAND ROAD.

UM, SO I LIKE THE WAY THAT PROFFER IS WRITTEN CUZ IT'S ALSO THEY'RE MONITORING ON OUR, OUR SITE.

WE'RE NOT OUT THERE, UH, POLICING, BUT NO TRUCKS WOULD BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT SO ALL TRUCKS WOULD GO TO THE INTERCHANGE.

SO I THINK THAT, UM, IS A, IS A BIG CHANGE AND WOULD ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN, HAVE BEEN RAISED.

UH, THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO INDICATED THAT THE HOURS OF PEAK TRUCK OPERATION ARE GENERALLY BETWEEN 8:00 PM AND 4:00 AM AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS A MIDDLE MILE FACILITY AND THEY WANT TO GET, UH, PRODUCT TO PEOPLE'S FRONT DOORS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

MOST OF THIS HAS COME BROUGHT IN SORT IT AND READY IN THE MORNING TO, UH, BE SENT OUT TO OTHER FACILITIES.

WE'VE ALSO, THE, THE TIA HAS INDICATED THAT ABOUT 80% OF THE EMPLOYEE TRAFFIC WILL HEAD TOWARDS THE INTERCHANGE.

UM, AND WE AGREE WITH THAT NUMBER.

SO THIS DOES WAS JUST THE MAP THAT I WAS GONNA SHOW.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SITE PROJECT SITE IS ABOUT A HALF MILE FROM INTERSTATE 64.

UH, YOU CAN SEE WITH THAT, THAT, THAT YOU HAVE GOOD ACCESS TO 64 AND TO WEST TO 2 88 TO TO SOUTH, UM, AND THEN ALSO TO 95 TO GET TO THE WHOLE EASTERN SEABOARD.

SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S A PRIME LOCATION FOR THIS TYPE OF USE.

UM, ASHLAND ROAD, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONCERNS RAISED ABOUT ASHLAND ROAD.

ASHLAND ROAD GENERALLY THROUGHOUT THE DAY FUNCTIONS AT A HIGH CAPACITY.

HOWEVER, DURING THE AM AND PM PEAK HOURS, IT IS A STRUGGLE GETTING THROUGH THAT INTERCHANGE.

UM, SO THE PROJECT DOES PROPOSE STAGGERED SHIFTS FOR EMPLOYEES TO SPREAD OUT TRAFFIC VOLUMES TO REDUCE THE HOUR, THE IMPACTS ON THE AM AND PM PEAK HOURS.

UM, BUT I DO WANNA REVIEW SOME OTHER TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS TO ADDRESS THOSE INTERCHANGE CONCERNS.

SO WITH OR WITHOUT THIS PROJECT, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND AT ASHLAND ROAD AND I 64, OUR COUNTY'S NUMBER ONE TRANSPORTATION PRIORITY ARE OUR INTERCHANGES ARE SOME OF THE MOST VALUABLE THINGS

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WE HAVE IN OUR, OUR COUNTY, UM, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UM, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH VDOT SINCE ABOUT 2018 ON HOW TO ADDRESS THIS INTERCHANGE.

UM, DURING THAT TIME WE LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES.

VDOT LOOKED AT FULL CL RELIEF DESIGN, THEY LOOKED AT DOUBLE ROUNDABOUTS AND THEY LOOKED AT THE DDI AT THAT TIME, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT THE FOUR LANE DDI WAS THE BEST WAY TO ADDRESS CAPACITY AND INTERCHANGE, UH, FUNCTION ISSUES AT THAT INTERCHANGE.

UH, WE DID APPLY FOR SMART SCALE FUNDING.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, FUNDING TRANSPORTATION FUNDING IS NOW A COMPETITIVE PROCESS THROUGH SMART SCALE, WHICH OCCURS EVERY TWO YEARS.

UM, IN 2018, UH, THE FOUR LANE DDI DID NOT SCORE WELL AND DID NOT GET FUNDED.

UH, SO WE WORKED WITH VDOT IN 2020 WHEN IT WAS TIME TO CEMENT CEMENT THE NEXT ROUND OF, UM, UH, APPLICATIONS.

UH, DURING THAT TIME THEY DO A LOT OF VALUE ENGINEERING ON PROJECTS TRYING TO GET COST DOWN TO INCREASE THE LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING FUNDING.

SO THEY CAME BACK IN 20 AND 20 AND SAID TWO, TWO LANE DDI COST IN HALF.

AND WE THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU'D HAVE A GOOD SHOT AT FUNDING.

SO WE WERE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.

UM, WE DID NOT GET FUNDED DURING THE 2020, UM, THROUGH SMART SCALE.

UM, HOWEVER, IT'S STILL BEEN OUR NUMBER ONE TRANSPORTATION PRIORITY AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL THROUGH THE C V T A REGIONAL FUNDS TO GET, UH, THE TWO LANE DDI FULLY FUNDED AT A COST OF ABOUT 17.8 MILLION.

UM, WE HEAD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

WE'VE HEARD, UH, CITIZENS CONCERNS, BUSINESSES CONCERNS IN THE AREA AND SAID ASHLAND ROAD IS FAILING COUNTY REALLY NEEDS TO ADDRESS ASHLAND ROAD.

SO WE TOOK A LONG LOOK AT, WENT BACK THROUGH THE TRAFFIC STUDIES, WENT BACK TO THE 2018 SMART SCALE APPLICATION, THE 2020 APPLICATIONS AND SAID TWO-LANE REALLY IS AN INTERIM STEP.

WE DON'T WANNA SPEND THE MONEY ON AN INTERIM STEP.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE FOUR-LANE DDI IS THE RIGHT LONG TERM PROJECT.

UH, WE IMMEDIATELY MET WITH VDOT, VDOT REVIEWED ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE WITH THEM AND THEY AGREED THE FOUR LANE DDI IS THE RIGHT FIX FOR, UH, FOR ASHLAND ROAD, NOT ONLY NOW BUT FOR THE FUTURE.

UM, SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE PURSUING RIGHT NOW.

THE TWO LANE DDI IS NOT A CONSIDERATION ANYMORE.

WE WILL BE PURSUING THE FOUR LANE DDI.

SO HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO THAT? WELL, WE HAVE ALREADY HAD THE 17.8 MILLION FOR THE TWO LANE DDI.

UM, SO WE WILL HAVE ALREADY STARTED THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH THE CVT A, UM, WE DID GET SEVERAL OTHER REGIONAL PROJECTS FUNDED.

UM, WE ARE GONNA BE TRYING TO TRANSFER FUNDING FROM THOSE OTHER ROAD PROJECTS TO ADD TO THE, UH, THIS PROJECT TO FUND THE FOUR-LANE DDI UM, SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS WERE DUE YESTERDAY AUGUST ONE FOR THE 2022 ROUND.

WE HAVE, UH, CHANGED OUR APPLICATIONS AND INCLUDED THE FOUR-LANE DDI AS PART OF OUR SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS.

UM, SO THAT IS ALREADY IN PROCESS AND WE HAVE ALSO RECEIVED COMMITMENT FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TO HELP IDENTIFY REMAINING THE REMAINING FUNDING TO MAKE THE INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THAT'S ALL A GOOD THING, NOT JUST FOR THIS PROJECT, BUT FOR EVERYTHING IN THE COUNTY.

THE THE FOUR LANE DDI WILL, WILL HELP THAT CORRIDOR FUNCTION AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL.

SO THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE FOUR-LANE DDI.

UM, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE ZION'S CROSSROAD, UM, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO THAT.

UH, ONE BENEFIT WITH THE FOUR-LANE DDI IS THEY WILL BUILD A SECOND BRIDGE SO THAT YOU HAVE AN OPTION IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ON ONE BRIDGE, THEY CAN CLOSE THAT BRIDGE AND THERE'D BE ANOTHER OPTION.

UM, AND WITH THE DDI YOU GO INTO THE OTHER LANE OF TRAFFIC.

UM, SO LET ME TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT.

YOU WOULD COME ALONG HERE, YOU WOULD GO ACROSS THE TRAFFIC LANES, YOU GO IN THE WHAT, WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER THE OPPOSITE LANE OF TRAFFIC AND THEN COME BACK OVER TO 64.

I'M NOT SURE I EXPLAIN THAT VERY WELL, BUT I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE DRIVEN THROUGH ZION'S CROSSROAD.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THE COUNTY'S WORK ON, UH, GETTING THE, UH, DDI UPGRADED TO A FOUR LANE DDI, WE ALSO SPENT SOME TIME WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT.

UM, AND THEY'VE MADE A CONSIDERABLE NUMBER OF CHANGES TO THEIR TRANSPORTATION PROFFERS SINCE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

SO, UH, WHAT THEY HAVE ADDED, SO ALL OF THESE THAT I'M GOING, THESE FOUR, UM, WOULD, THE TIMING WOULD BE PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF OF CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

SO PRIOR TO THEM MOVING INTO THE BUILDING, THESE FOUR THINGS WOULD NEED TO BE DONE.

UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO DEDICATE, UH, 62 AND A HALF FEET OF RIGHT AWAY MEASURED FROM THE CENTER LINE OF ASHLAND ROAD THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE ASHLAND ROAD CORRIDOR.

A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE INTERSECTION OF THE PROPOSED SITE DRIVE DRIVEWAY AND ASHLAND ROAD WOULD BE INSTALLED AND NO THROUGH MOVEMENTS WOULD BE ALLOWED FROM THE SITE ENTRANCE TO LOOK.

SO LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

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UM, SO THIS IS THE PROJECT SITE HERE.

THIS IS THE EXISTING ROAD TO THE LUCK MAINTENANCE FACILITY.

THE APPLICANT WOULD WORK WITH LUCK.

UH, THEY WOULD REMOVE THAT ENTRANCE, BUILD A NEW ENTRANCE TO THE, FOR THE LUCK FACILITY THAT WOULD LINE UP ACROSS FROM THE PROJECT DRIVE.

AND THIS WOULD BE A SIGNALED INTERSECTION ALSO, NO THROUGH MOVEMENTS COULD OCCUR, UM, BETWEEN PROJECT DRIVE AND LUCKY SO THE ROCKY.

AND SO ALL OF THE UM, TRAFFIC MOVEMENTS WOULD BE A MUCH QUICKER MOVEMENTS BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY GOT, UH, TRAFFIC GOING IN ONE DIRECTION.

UH, THE OTHER THING THAT THEY WERE PROPOSING PRIOR TO THE CIO CO IS THEY WOULD BE WIDENING, UM, ASHLAND ROAD TO PROVIDE A DUAL LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE FOR NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC AND A RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE FOR SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC.

UM, SO LET ME SHOW YOU AGAIN.

THAT WOULD BE, SO YOU WOULD HAVE A DOUBLE LEFT TURN INTO HERE.

SO, UH, AT ROAD TRAFFIC COMING FROM 64, THERE WOULD BE A DOUBLE LEFT MOVEMENT TURNING MOVEMENT AT THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT.

UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING THE LONGEST, UH, TURN LANE AND TAPER THAT YOU CAN DO.

IT WOULD BE A 200 FOOT TURN LANE AND A 400 FOOT TAPER.

UH, THAT IS THE SAME, UM, DESIGN AS WHAT IS AT THE ENTRANCE OF 2 88 AND BROAD STREET, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, AND THEN FOR A RIGHT TURN LANE, WHICH WOULD PRIMARILY JUST BE EMPLOYEE TRAFFIC, UM, THERE WOULD BE A 200, UH, FOOT TURN LANE WITH 200 FOOT TAPER GOING INTO THE SITE FROM THAT DIRECTION.

UM, THEN THE VERY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE, UM, THAT WAS MADE SINCE THE, THE UM, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WHICH I THINK WILL HAVE THE LARGEST IMPACT, IS THE APPLICANT HAS PROFFERED TO DO A RIGHT TURN LANE GOING ON TO 64 WEST.

UM, I KNOW THIS INTERSECTION, THIS IS HOW I COME TO WORK.

UH, I OFTEN SIT BACK HERE BEHIND SEVEN OR EIGHT CARS.

THEY'RE WAITING AT THE LIGHT AND IF I COULD JUST SLIP THROUGH, THAT WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

SO THERE NOW THERE WOULD BE A LANE WHERE SOMEBODY CAN JUST WOULDN'T HAVE TO WAIT AT THE LIGHT.

IF THEY'RE GOING, UH, WEST ON 64, THEY'D BE ABLE TO GO THAT.

SO I THINK THAT IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT CHANGE BY THE APPLICANT.

UM, AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING TO ADD A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THE, UM, EASTBOUND LANE.

UM, THOSE TRAFFIC SIGNALS WOULD BE TIMED AND IT WOULD, UH, HELP THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THAT INTERSECTION SIGNIFICANTLY SO WITHIN 40.

SO THOSE, ALL OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE PRIOR TO THE CO.

UM, THERE WAS ALSO SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, WELL WHAT ABOUT WHEN THE PROPERTY IS BEING CONSTRUCTED? UH, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS THEN? UM, BIG FACILITY, LOTS OF BIG EQUIPMENT COMING IN.

SO WITHIN 45 DAYS OF THE ISSUANCE OF THE BUILDING PERMIT, THE APPLICANT HAD INDICATED THAT THAT'S WHEN THEY WOULD PUT THE, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT ASHLYN AND 64.

THIS WOULD BE AN INTERIM MEASURE UNTIL THE DDI WAS FULL, FULLY UP AND RUNNING.

UM, BUT IT DOES INCREASE, UH, THE TRAFFIC CAPACITY AND IT DOES SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCE THE WAIT TIMES.

UM, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU IN A, IN A SLIDE COMING UP.

UM, AND THEN AFTER THE SITE IS FULLY CONSTRUCTED, UH, THE APPLICANT WOULD GO BACK AND WORK WITH VDOT AND LOOK AT THE TIMING OF ALL OF THESE INTERSECTIONS SO THAT THEY CAN TIME, UM, THE SIGNALS APPROPRIATELY.

SO THIS IS, UH, INFORMATION FROM THE TRAFFIC STUDY.

SO THESE ARE THE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS.

SO THE FIRST GROUPING IS THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS FOR A SOUTHBOUND ASHLAND.

SO GOING TOWARDS THE INTERCHANGE, SO RIGHT NOW I PUT THIS IN WAIT TIMES, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AT WAIT TIMES OR Q TIMES.

Q TIMES IS A LITTLE HARDER BECAUSE YOU GOT TRUCKS AND TRAILERS.

UM, SO WE WENT WITH WAIT TIMES CUZ PEOPLE CAN SORT OF UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

SO RIGHT NOW, AS OF 2021, UM, DURING THE AM PEAK, WHICH IS BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 9:00 AM YOU WAIT ABOUT 225 SECONDS TO GET THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.

SO ABOUT FOUR MINUTES.

UM, FOR THE PM PEAK IT'S 264 SECONDS.

SO IN PROJECTING FOR 2024, IF THIS PROJECT DOESN'T HAPPEN AND DEVELOPMENT JUST CONTINUES WITH BACKGROUND GROWTH, THE NO BUILD, SO AGAIN, NO, NO NO PROJECT, NO INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS.

THE PM AND AM PEAK TIME WAIT TIMES ARE PROPOSED TO INCREASE TO 318 SECONDS FOR AMMP AND 316 SECONDS FOR PM PEAK.

SO THAT'S JUST WITH EXISTING BACKGROUND TRAFFIC.

THEN OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2024

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BUILD WITH THE SIGNAL AND THE PROFFERED ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT AND THIS PROJECT COMING ON BOARD, THE AM PEAK WOULD REDUCE TO 144 SECONDS.

UM, SO SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, LESS DROPPING IT ABOUT IN HALF, UM, FROM CLOSE TO FOUR MINUTES TO ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MINUTES, UM, FOR THE AM PEAK.

AND THEN THE PM PEAK GOES UP ABOUT, UH, 12 SECONDS.

SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? NO.

UM, GOING BACK TO THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, THE APPLICANT DID HOLD A COMMUNITY MEETING IN MAY OF 24TH.

UM, WE HAD FOUR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND TWO MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THERE AND ABOUT 20 RESIDENTS.

UM, THAT WAS REALLY JUST A QUESTION AND ANSWER.

NO ONE REALLY SPOKE AND SUPPORTED OPPOSITION AT THAT MEETING.

AS WE PROCEEDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JULY 7TH, THE REZONING REQUEST WAS APPROVED WITH A THREE TWO VOTE.

UM, AT THAT MEETING WE HAD NINE CITIZENS SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.

UM, THEIR CONCERNS WERE RELATED TO TRAFFIC, DELAYED EMS AND FIRE RESPONSE TIMES AND LACK OF TRANSPARENCY FROM THE APPLICANT.

AND THEN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH A FOUR ONE VOTE.

UM, SO SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, I KNOW THE BOARD AND STAFF HAVE RECEIVED NUMEROUS EMAILS, UM, REGARDING THIS PROJECT, UM, BOTH OPPOSITION AND SUPPORT.

UM, I KNOW I READ EVERY UM, ME LETTER THAT CAME IN.

I KNOW ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS READ ALL THE LETTERS CAME IN.

AND SO, UM, WANTED TO SHOW THAT WE, WE TOOK THEIR CONCERNS SERIOUSLY.

UM, SO AS I WENT THROUGH EVERY LETTER, I TRIED TO KIND OF BREAK IT INTO, UH, AREAS OF CONCERNS AND HOW WE COULD TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CITIZEN CONCERNS.

UM, CUZ THAT IS ULTIMATELY WHAT WE WANNA DO.

WE WANT WANT CITIZENS TO BE HAPPY, UM, WITH THE PROJECT.

SO THE FIRST GROUPING OF CONCERNS WAS WHETHER THIS, UH, PROJECT WAS IN THE RIGHT LOCATION.

UM, AND WHETHER IT SHOULD BE LOCATED HERE.

THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, AS I SAID, THE LOCATION IS UH, UH, IN THE COUNTY'S INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR AND IT'S A HALF MILE FROM AN INTERCHANGE, WHICH IS THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES SHOULD BE LOCATED.

UH, TRAFFIC WAS THE OVERWHELMING CONCERN.

I THINK I COVERED THAT PRETTY, UH, COMPLETELY IN MY PRESENTATION.

BUT JUST HIGH LEVEL, UH, COUNTY IS SCRAPPING THE TWO-LANE DDI GOING TO A FOUR-LANE DDI.

WE BELIEVE WE'VE IDENTIFIED FUNDING SOURCES FOR THAT.

UM, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT TO, UM, IMPROVE THEIR ROAD PROFFERS AND THEY HAVE ADDRESSED ALL OF OUR CONCERNS AND HAVE ADDRESSED ALL THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE TIA CONCERNS RELATED TO DELAYED EMS AND FIRE RESPONSE TIMES.

I KNOW THE BOARD TAKES THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.

UM, THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UM, ARE PURSUING ESTABLISHING AN AUTOMATIC MUTUAL AID WITH HANOVER COUNTY.

UM, THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT EXPANSIVE THAN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.

UH, A REGULAR MU MUTUAL AID AGREEMENT.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THERE'S A MEETING SET UP IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS TO TO PURSUE THAT OPTION.

UM, ROCKVILLE FIRE STATION, UM, IS, WHICH IS IN LOCATED IN HANOVER COUNTY, IS ABOUT LESS THAN TWO MILES FROM THIS SITE, UH, FROM PARKSIDE VILLAGE, UH, WHICH IS THE CLOSEST NEIGHBORHOOD TO THIS PROJECT.

UH, THERE WERE ALSO SOME CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE.

UM, WE DID REQUEST THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE A, UM, NOISE STUDY.

UM, THEY DID PROVIDE THAT TO US.

UH, ONE THING I DIDN'T POINT OUT, UM, AND I SHOULD HAVE, BUT WHEN I, I HAVE SOME, UM, I COULD SHOW YOU LATER, BUT AROUND THE UM, TRUCK AREAS, THEY WILL BE BUILDING SOUND WALLS AROUND THE TRUCK, UH, PARKING AREA, UM, WHICH WILL HELP ADDRESS SOUND.

UM, SO WHEN THEY DID MEASURE THE SOUND AT THE, UM, PROPERTY LINE, UM, FOR THIS PROJECT IT WAS ABOUT A DBA OF 50 TO 56, UM, WHICH IS COMPARABLE TO ABOUT AN AIR CONDITIONER.

UM, IN TERMS OF SOUND STUDIES, UH, THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT LIGHT POLLUTION.

THE COUNTY DOES HAVE A DARK SKY LIGHTING ORDINANCE.

THIS PROJECT WILL NEED TO MEET THAT THERE ARE NO WAIVERS OR ANYTHING FROM THE DARK SKY ORDINANCE.

SO THE APPLICANT WILL JUST HAVE TO, TO MEET, MEET OUR STANDARDS.

AND WITH LIGHTING TODAY, THAT'S USUALLY NOT AN ISSUE ANYMORE.

THE, THE L E D LIGHTINGS ARE, ARE MUCH MORE CONTAINED AND, AND CAN, CAN MEET THOSE, UH, FAIRLY EASILY.

UM, AND THEN ANOTHER VERY LARGE ONE WAS THE ISSUE OF TRANSPARENCY.

UM, THE, THE IDEN IDENTITY OF A PROPERTY OWNER OR AN OPERATOR IS NOT A VALID CONSIDERATION IN A LAND USE DECISION.

UM, THE DETERMINATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A LAND USE DECISION.

UM, IT'S NOT ABOUT, IT'S ABOUT HOW THE PROPERTY IS BEING USED.

IT'S NOT SPECIFIC TO ANY COMPANY, UM, OR AN APPLICANT.

IF THERE'S PROPERTY IS REZONED AND THERE'S PROFFERS

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THAT RUNS WITH THE LAND.

UM, IT REMINDS ME OF, UM, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THE C P FOR A TACO BELL AND EVERYBODY CAME AND THEY WERE LIKE, WE DON'T WANNA TACO BELL, WE WANNA RUTH CHRIS STEAKHOUSE.

AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, WE, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T PICK THE USER, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN EVALUATE THE IMPACTS OF THE USE.

SO, UM, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO HAVE, UM, THROUGH REZONING CASES A UM, LLC SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION SO QUICKLY, I'LL JUST RUN THROUGH THE PROFFERS CUZ I'VE COVERED MOST OF THEM IN THE PRESENTATION.

THE CONCEPT PLAN, UM, WAS, IS PROFFERED THAT I SHOWED YOU IN THE PRESENTATION.

UM, THE, THERE'S A BUFFER AND PLANTING PLAN THAT WAS, UH, PROVIDED.

I'VE ALREADY WENT THROUGH THE EXTENSIVE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT THEY PROFFERED.

UM, AND NOW I'M JUST GONNA QUICKLY RUN THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

UM, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE REZONING BEFORE I COVER THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, MS. HUNTER, I JUST, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD POINT TO REMIND THE BOARD THAT YOU READ ONE PROFFER IN THAT WASN'T WOODEN ON YOUR SLIDE CUZ IT JUST CAME AND THAT WAS THE PROFFER ABOUT NOT, TRUCKS NOT TURNING LEFT.

YEAH, THAT WOULD ALSO BE, YEAH, AND THAT'S NOT IN MY PRESENTATION CAUSE I JUST RECEIVED IT.

SO, THANK YOU, TARA.

FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING THAT PERMIT, UM, ANYTHING OVER 60 FEET IN OUR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS DOES REQUIRE C P.

UM, THEY'RE, UH, PROPOSING IT UP TO 120 FEET.

ACTUALLY, THE ELEVATIONS THEY SHOW IS ABOUT 106.

I THINK THEY'RE JUST GIVING THEMSELVES SOME FLEXIBILITY IN CASE THE BUILDING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED IN ANY WAY OR THE GRADE OF THE, THE GROUND NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

UM, THE, UH, THERE IS CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER FIRE COULD, COULD SERVE THAT.

UM, MOST LADDER TRUCKS, IT, WELL, ALL THE LADDER TRUCKS IN THE COUNTY, BUT ALMOST ALL THE ONES IN THE REGION ARE ABOUT A HUNDRED, UM, FEET.

HOWEVER, UM, IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUILDING ABOVE THAT, YOU DO HAVE TO MEET, UM, VERY EXTENSIVE FIRE SUPPRESSION MEASURES, UM, WHICH THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET.

AND THEN THE UPPER LEVELS, AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND YOU, ARE RESTRICTED TO THE ROBOTICS EQUIPMENT AND, AND WOULDN'T HAVE PEOPLE ON THOSE LEVELS.

UM, THE SITE HAS BEEN DESIGNED TO PROVIDE SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPING ALONG ASHLAND ROAD AND TO SOFTEN THE VIS VISIBILITY OF THE BUILDING MASS.

UM, AND THEY'RE ALSO USING THE EXISTING CONTOURS OF THE SITE.

UM, SO THIS BUILDING WILL ACTUALLY SIT, UH, LIKE ALONG THE ROCKVILLE COMMERCE SIDE ABOUT 20 FEET INTO THE GROUND, SO THE MASSING WON'T BE AS EXTREME.

SO AGAIN, HERE'S THE PICTURE OF THE BUILDING.

UM, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE ASHLAND ROAD, UH, ENTRANCE.

UH, SO YOU COULD SEE IT IS SETBACK.

UM, SO IT'S NOT SUCH A BIG MASS ALONG ASHLAND ROAD.

UM, AND THE APPLICANT ALSO DID, UM, ADD A LOT OF ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES TO BREAK UP THE MASSING.

SO THERE'S A FEW, UH, CONDITIONS THAT RELATE TO THE C.

ONE IS THE USE ABOUT THE BUILDING AND THE HEIGHT, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UM, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN SHOWN.

UM, UH, THE APPLIC, THE ALA REQUIRED TO MEET SITE PLAN AND ALL OTHER HEALTH DEPARTMENT BUILDING DEPARTMENT REQUIREMENTS BEFORE THEY CAN, UH, OCCUPY THE BUILDING.

UH, THE ELEVATIONS WILL CONFORM TO WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THE PRESENTATION AND THEN OUR STANDARD TRANSFER, OUR LEASE CONDITION.

SO AGAIN, JUST TO REMIND YOU TO, TO, UM, THIS COMBINED PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE REZONING IN THE C P, WE WILL NEED TWO SEPARATE BOATS.

THE FIRST VOTE WOULD BE ON THE REZONING CASE, WHICH IS TO REZONE THE PROPERTY 105 ACRES FROM A TWO TO M TWO WITH PROFFERS, UM, THE, THE FIVE PROFFERS THAT WERE SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT, PLUS ONE ADDITIONAL ONE TONIGHT.

AND THEN THE C P WOULD BE TO ALLOW THE INCREASED HEIGHT.

SO I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

QUICK, QUICK QUESTION.

THANK MS. HUNTER, YOU USED IT AN ACRONYM AND I YOU MAYBE EXPLAINED IT, BUT C BT A BACK TO FUNDING IN THE WORD C BT A, THAT'S THE RELATIVELY NEW REGIONAL BODY WITH, THAT'S WHY WE PAY A LITTLE MORE TAX IN THE REGION.

UH, HIGHER WHOLESALE TAX AND SALES TAX.

THAT GROUP HAS COMMITTED 17 AND A HALF MILLION.

AND THAT COMMITMENT HOLDS, EVEN THOUGH IT GOES FROM TWO LANES TO FOUR LANES.

UM, SO THAT'S 17 AND A HALF MILLION.

AND THAT'S FROM THE REGION, THAT'S NOT FROM OUR SHARE.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE REGIONAL COMPONENT COMMITMENT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

UM, I, I HAVE A LETTER HERE FROM THE OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR AS CHIEF OF STAFF DATED YESTERDAY, ADDRESSED TO MR. SPOON HOWARD.

AND IT'S, UH, THEY'RE ASKING THAT WE ENDORSE THE COUNTY'S THAT THIS BOARD ENDORSED THE COUNTY'S SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS FOR AN IMPROVED AND EXPANDED INTER INTERCHANGE AT THE, AT TODAY'S MEETING.

WELL, OF COURSE THE DEADLINE WAS YESTERDAY.

SO I THINK WE'VE MET THAT BY SUBMITTING THE SMART SCALE APPLICATION, RIGHT? TIMELY.

WAS DUE, UH, SINCE IT WAS WITHIN 24 HOURS.

AND THAT SMART SCALE APPLICATION IS FOR THE FOUR LANE DDI, CORRECT? YES.

AND THAT WAS VOTED ON EARLIER TODAY.

UM, WE HAVE WORKED WITH VDOT, THEY'VE BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING AND ALLOWING US TO SUBMIT THAT AFTER THE, UM, APPLICATION

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SO HOW MUCH FUNDING ARE WE ASKING IT? DO, DO WE ASK FOR IN OUR SMART SCALE APPLICATION? DO WE ASK FOR A DOLLAR AMOUNT OR DO WE JUST SUBMIT THE PROJECT AND, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE SMART SCALE WILL GENERATE THE, THE, THEY'LL DO THE FULL EN ADDITIONAL ENGINEERING AND COME UP WITH A FULL NUMBER.

SO, SO WE KNOW OUR APPLICATION SCORES BETTER WITH THE COMMITMENT OF OTHER FUNDS.

SO OUR SMART SCALE APPLICATION CON HAS CONFIRMED THE COMMITMENT FROM C V T A.

UH, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE DOING.

THEY, THEY KNOW ALL OF THIS, THESE BUILDING BLOCKS ARE BEING INCLUDED.

UM, SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL SCORE BETTER, UH, THROUGH SMART SCALE FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

ONE, BECAUSE WE HAVE MONEY ON THE TABLE, SO THE, THE COST, UH, RATIO GOES DOWN.

AND TWO, TRANSPORTATION PLANNING IS VERY REACTIONARY.

SO WE APPLIED 20 18, 20 20, UM, WITH EXISTING TRAFFIC.

IT JUST DIDN'T RAISE TO THE LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING AS FUNDING SOURCE.

UM, BECAUSE IT, IT JUST WASN'T BAD ENOUGH.

UNFORTUNATELY, FOR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING.

THINGS HAVE TO BE REALLY BAD BEFORE GET FUNDING FOR IT.

THAT'S NOT LOGICAL, BUT THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

UM, SO, UH, WITH THIS PROJECT AND THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FROM THIS PROJECT, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE A VERY, UM, COMPETITIVE SMART SCALE APPLICATION.

UH, USER WILL HAVE THEIR OWN LAST MILE FACILITIES, BUT ALSO USE OTHER LAST MILE FACILITIES, WHICH ARE THE VANS THAT DELIVER TO THE HOME.

SO, AND I SEE SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, YOU'VE HIGHLIGHTED THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS DONE TO AMELIORATE SOME OF THE TRAFFIC.

SOME OF THE CONCERNS I THINK YOU'RE AWARE OF, AND I'VE SEEN OR FOLKS ARE SAYING THIS THING MAY GO LIVE IN, IN, YOU KNOW, IN TWO YEARS, BUT OUR PLANS DON'T CALL FOR THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS UNTIL SIX YEARS LATER MM-HMM.

BUT ALL OF THESE EFFORTS, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I I'M ASKING A QUESTION.

THESE EFFORTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND, AND C BTA, ET CETERA, WE'RE TRYING TO PULL THAT FORWARD, RIGHT? THE, THE RIGHT FOUR-LANE DDI.

SO IF THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE LOOKING AT SOME SORT OF A 2025 OPENING.

UM, WE, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN WORK WITH VDOT TO MOVE UP THE FOUR-LANE DDI.

HOWEVER, IF YOU RE REALLY GET INTO THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THE INTERIM IMPROVEMENT OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL AND THE TURN LANES GAVE US ABOUT THE SAME CAPACITY AND LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THE TWO LANE DDI WOULD'VE BEEN.

SO THIS IS, THERE'S SOME GOOD INTERIM STEPS THERE.

UM, I THINK YOU COULD SEE IN THE CHART, YEAH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THE WAIT TIMES WOULD STILL BE, BUT, BUT STILL, ESPECIALLY IN THE AM PEAK BETTER THAN THEY ARE NOW.

THANK YOU MS. HAR.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

I WOULD THE APPLICANT TO SPEAK.

YOU BROUGHT ALL THAT STUFF.

YOU GOTTA HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY.

OH, THERE YOU GO.

YOU KNOW HOW TO WORK THIS RIGHT FORWARD BACK AT LASER.

ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER, MS. MCGEE, ANDY CONMAN HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, UM, ALSO HAVE WITH US BILL HUDGINS FROM PANTON.

KEVIN DELOY FROM BOWMAN, WHO'S A CIVIL ENGINEER, AND DAVID CAPI FROM KIMLEY HORN, WHO'S A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

UH, I FIRST WANTED TO ADDRESS, UH, THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS AN LLC.

IT'S A COMMON LLC THAT THEY USE THAT PANTON USES SPECIFICALLY FOR DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE SOUTHEAST REGION OF THE UNITED STATES.

THEY DO IT FOR ALL THEIR PROJECTS IN THE SOUTHEAST TO BE ABLE TO, UH, PUT PROPERTY UNDER CONTRACT, PROVIDE FOR DEVELOPMENT PLANS, AND DEVELOP THE PROPERTY BASED ON, UH, WHAT THEY WANT TO FOR ASSET MANAGEMENT.

AND THEN THEY'LL TRANSFER TO THE OWNERSHIP ENTITY THAT'LL ULTIMATELY OWN IT THROUGH PANTON ENTITY, UH, OR THE ULTIMATE USER IN THIS CASE, UH, DEPENDING UPON THE PROJECT ITSELF.

PANTON IS A PRIVATELY HELD COMPANY THAT STARTED IN 1986.

THEY HAVE DEVELOPED OVER 500 FEET OF PRODUCT, UH, WITHIN THE UNITED STATES AND WORLDWIDE, PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE PROJECT AND BUILD TO SUIT WITHIN THOSE CATEGORIES AS WELL AS ASSET MANAGEMENT.

AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS PROJECT IS, IS RIGHT IN THEIR WHEELHOUSE WITH AN INDUSTRIAL DISTRIBUTION LOGISTICS, UH, FACILITY THAT THEY DO, UH, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE WORLD.

AGAIN, WITH OVER 500 MILLION SQUARE FEET, THE, UH, PROPERTY.

AND OF COURSE, MS. HUNTER HAS BEEN VERY THOROUGH IN HOW SHE'S PRESENTED THE CASE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 105 ACRES, UH, JUST ABOUT A HALF A MILE FROM THE INTERCHANGE AND ALSO WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT MS. HUNTER HAS ALREADY, UH, IDENTIFIED FOR THE LAND LANDERS DESIGNATION.

IS FLEXIBLE SUGGESTING, UH, INDUSTRIAL CONSISTENT WITH M TWO, EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE PROVIDING FOR CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING ZONING.

I DID WANNA TAKE A SECOND TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OPERATIONS, MAYBE, UH, A BIT MORE DETAILED THAN MS. HUNTER'S PROVIDED FOR THIS INDUSTRIAL DISTRIBUTION FULFILLMENT FACILITY.

AND AS SHE'S, UH, DESCRIBED, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDINGS ABOUT 650, 600 50,000 SQUARE FEET FOOTPRINT FOR A DISTRIBUTION USER.

IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT IT'S NOT A LAST MILE USER FACILITY.

THIS PARTICULAR,

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AND BUSINESSES FROM THAT FACILITY WOULD COME DIRECTLY TO THE ACTUAL CUSTOMER.

IN THIS CASE, THIS IS IN A MIDSTREAM FACILITY.

THE FULFILLMENT CENTER ITSELF IS ACTUALLY BRINGING PRODUCT IN FROM A NUMBER OF SOURCES, PRIMARILY FROM THE PORT OF VIRGINIA, ANOTHER TRANSPORTATION HUBS, BUT ALSO FROM THE ACTUAL, UH, SUPPLIERS.

THE ACTUAL SELLERS WILL BRING IT INTO THIS FACILITY, UH, IN BULK, AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, THEN TAKE FROM THAT PRODUCT, SORT IT INTO DIFFERENT CONTAINERS THAT WILL THEN BE DELIVERED TO THE LAST MILE FACILITIES.

NO CUSTOMERS COME HERE AND NOTHING LEAVES HERE TO GO DIRECTLY TO CUSTOMERS.

UH, THIS IS ALL TRANSPORTATION COMING IN FROM TRACTOR TRAILERS AND LEAVING ON TRACTOR TRAILERS.

UH, AND THAT'S WHY WE CAN ACTUALLY CONTROL NOT ONLY THE EMPLOYEES, BUT ACTUAL THE TRUCK TRAFFIC THEMSELVES AS, AS, AS REFLECTED BY THE, UH, NEW PRO THAT WE PROVIDED FOR.

UH, THIS, UH, PARTICULAR FACILITY HAS, HAS BEEN NOTED, IS HIGHLY MECHANIZED.

IT'S CONTINUALLY BEING VOL EVOLVING, UH, THROUGH THE BEST OPERATIONS AND THE MOST EFFICIENT OPERATIONS THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE FOR.

UH, MAJORITY OF THE BUILDING IS ROBOTICS WITH, UH, OVER A THOUSAND EMPLOYEES THAT WE PROVIDED.

SO AGAIN, CONSISTENT WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, HEAVY HECK, UH, HEAVY JOB GROWTH FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

AS HAS BEEN NOTED, THE OFFICES WILL BE ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

THIS IS KIND OF A BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE FACILITY.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF ELEVATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED FOR INCLUDING, UH, AS YOU SEE IN THE ENTRYWAY, THOSE WALLS NOT ONLY PROVIDE FOR DECORATIVE, BUT ALSO FOR SOUND WALLS AS IT LEADS INTO THE FACILITY ITSELF TO HELP PROTECT FROM ASH, UH, TO ASHLAND ROAD, BUT ALSO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

UH, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF ELEVATIONS THAT ARE PROVIDED, UH, THAT SHOW AGAIN, THE EXACT FACILITY, UM, AS FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES THAT WE HAVE.

UH, MS. HUNTER HAS, HAS TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE, UH, THE INTERSECTION OR, UH, ENTRANCE INTO OUR FACILITY.

OBVIOUSLY THE KEY TO THIS ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN TRAFFIC, AND SHE DID A FANTASTIC JOB DESCRIBING SOME OF THE EVOLUTION OF THAT, EVEN SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION INTO TALKING ABOUT THAT.

UH, WE DO TYPICALLY HAVE TWO SHIFTS OR EMPLOYEES, UH, AT 24 7 OPERATION, UH, FOR THE ACTUAL EMPLOYEES THAT SHIFTS WILL BE DEFINED.

THIS WE'RE TALKING THREE YEARS OUT AND IT'S CONTINUALLY EVOLVING AS THEY GO THROUGH.

AND THEY ALSO TRY TO EVOLVE BASED ON THE SPECIFIC STANDARDS OF THE, OF THE, OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S OCCURRING FOR THE PEAK HOURS.

PEAK HOURS OCCUR NOT JUST FOR THE, UH, IT E CODE, BUT ON THE ACTUAL ROAD ITSELF.

SO THEY WILL TRY TO, THEY WILL ADJUST THEIR, UH, SHIFTS BASED ON THE PEAK HOURS TO BE OFF PEAK, TO BE ABLE TO BRING EMPLOYEES IN, UH, FROM TIME TO TIME, UH, FROM AS THEY'VE COME TO WORK SPECIFICALLY.

OBVIOUSLY, CRITICAL IS A TRUCK TRAFFIC COMING TO HIM FROM THE SITE.

CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THAT THE REASON THAT THIS SITE WAS CHOSEN, UH, BY THIS PARTICULAR USER IS NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE AVAILABLE LABOR FORCE IN THE AREA, BUT IT'S PROXIMITY TO HIGH 64 AND THE TRUCK TRAFFIC OPERATES.

80% OF THE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE COMING AND GOING BETWEEN 8:00 PM AND 4:00 AM WHEN THERE'S VERY LITTLE TRAFFIC ON THE ROAD.

IT'S THE UN PEAK HOURS OF THAT ENTIRE FACILITY.

AND SO THIS EXACT INTERCHANGE ACTUALLY WOULD FUNCTION WELL FOR THEM, EVEN WITHOUT ANY IMPROVEMENTS.

BUT OBVIOUSLY AS MS. HUNTERS POINTED OUT, A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT, UH, THAT THEY PROVIDED AND INCLUDING SPECIFICALLY, UH, AT THIS INTERCHANGE AND ON ASHLAND ROAD ITSELF TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR, UH, THIS NEW INTERSECTION, UH, TWO LEFT TURN LANES IN AND TWO RIGHT TURNS OUT.

AND AGAIN, WITH THE NEW PROFIT THAT WE PROVIDED FOR THAT WAS REQUESTED NOT ONLY FROM, UH, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE AT, UH, FROM GLAND COUNTY, BUT ALSO IN HANOVER COUNTY, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT ANY TRUCKS HEADING NORTH.

SO WE'VE GOT A PROHIBITION ON ANY TRUCK TRAFFIC.

AGAIN, NOT A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE PROXIMITY TO THE INTERCHANGE, ALL TRUCK TRAFFIC WILL BE GOING TO THE INTERCHANGE AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH PROHIBITING ANY LEFT TURN LANES FOR THE TRUCK TRAFFIC ITSELF.

UM, SO FOR THAT STANDPOINT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, FACILITY OBVIOUSLY, UM, WITH THE KEY POINTS IS THAT WITHIN 45 DAYS OF THE BUILDING PERMIT, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FOR THE LIGHT AT THE INTERCHANGE.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF OUR STRUCTURE OF OUR, FOR OUR CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, BUT THAT HAS TO GO IN ALMOST IMMEDIATELY AS OUR CONSTRUCTION GOES IN, WE'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING THAT LIGHT AND THAT'LL BE TURNED OVER TO VDOT.

AND AS AN IN INTERIM MESS MATTER MATTER UNTIL THEY COME FORWARD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE, UH, FOUR-LANE DDI.

AT THAT POINT, THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE NOT EVERYTHING, BUT A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS TO BE ABLE TO TURN LEFT TO GO EAST ON 64, TO BE ABLE TO PUT THAT LIGHT IN ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.

THAT'LL, UH, PROVIDE FOR IMPROVEMENTS.

AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE DONE AS CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS, UH, PRIOR TO ANY ISSUES OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.

AGAIN, MS. HUNTER'S GONE THROUGH ALL OF THOSE.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THOSE SPECIFICALLY UNLESS YOU YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

SO THIS PROPOSAL COMES BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, CONSISTENT WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROVIDES SIGNIFICANT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND JOB GROWTH FOR THE AREA.

WE'VE PROVIDED A SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENTS FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, NOT ONLY TO ACCOMMODATE OUR TRAFFIC, BUT ALSO TO ACCOMMODATE EXISTING TRAFFIC AND TRAFFIC GROWTH AS IT COMES FORWARD.

IT ALSO PROVIDES ENCOURAGEMENT FOR FURTHER FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES BECAUSE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WHEN YOU HAVE A USER THAT'S PROVIDING FOR ECONOMIC GROWTH, OTHER SOURCE, UH, FUNDS OF, UH, FUNDING SOURCES ARE

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AVAILABLE THAT WILL COME, COME TO FRUITION AS YOU GO THROUGH THE SMART SCALE FUNDING AND OTHERWISE.

AND FINALLY, IT COMES TO YOU, UH, WITH PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT YOU FOLLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION AND APPROVE BOTH THE REZONING REQUEST AND THE C P.

I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF FOLKS HERE TO HELP ME ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO NOW.

THANK YOU, MR. CON.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME AT THIS POINT? OKAY, DON'T GO TOO FAR.

I WILL.

WE'VE BEEN THIS ABOUT AN HOUR, HOUR AND 15 MINUTES.

TIME FLIES WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN.

UM, WE MAY TAKE A FIVE, 10 MINUTE BREAK.

AND THEN WHAT ALLOW US TO DO IS FOLKS THAT WANT TO START SPEAKING, PLEASE, UH, MOVE UP TO THESE FRONT SEATS, AND THEN AS THEY COME UP, PEOPLE PLEASE JUST FILL IN THERE.

BUT WE'LL START AT, UH, WHEN THE BIG HANDS ON THE FIVE.

SO SEE YOU BACK HERE IN 10 MINUTES.

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YEAH, THE, THAT WE, IT IS THAT YOURS? OKAY.

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CAR LINE.

STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED IN 2021 AND STUDIED IT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU WHEN I GO TO WORK IN THE MORNING, I GO ABOUT TWO MILES TO THE INTERSTATE AND ON AVERAGE, IT TAKES ME 15 MINUTES TO GET THERE.

BEFORE WE OFFICIALLY GET STARTED, UM, WE DO HAVE A SET OF KEYS THAT WAS A RESTROOM.

IT'S A SUBARU, AND THERE'S A TAG FROM A HANOVER MUSEUM ON THEM, IF THAT SOUND LIKE YOUR KEYS.

UM, THEY'RE UP HERE AT THE PODIUM.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS EVERYBODY.

OKAY, SO WE ARE AT THE POINT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, JUST, UH, JUST TO KIND OF GO OVER SORT OF HOW, HOW WE OPERATE.

UH, YOU CAN ONLY SPEAK ONCE PER HEARING AND THE SHOULD BE UP BEHIND ME IF YOU, IF YOU DECIDE TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE, WHICH IS PERFECTLY FINE, PLEASE, UH, JUST GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESSES AND SAY THAT YOU'RE HERE TO, TO GIVE YOUR TWO MINUTES TO, UH, THE NEXT SPEAKER.

AND WE'LL KEEP THAT TALLI.

PLEASE WATCH THE CLOCK AND, UM, OF THE LIGHT.

AND AGAIN, LET'S JUST PLEASE RESPECT EACH OTHER AND, UH, REFRAIN FROM ANY OUTBURSTS.

AND, UH, WE'LL HAVE A GREAT, GREAT REST OF OUR HEARING, LISTENING TO YOUR THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS TIME I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS MARGE WHITE AND I LIVE AT 7 1 64 YEARS STREET IN GOLAND.

I OPPOSE THE PDC APPLICATIONS.

I HEARD ABOUT THE TRAFFIC

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THE OTHER EVENING WHEN I GOT OFF AT FIVE 15, I COUNTED 87 VEHICLES IN LINE WAITING AT THE LIGHT.

THE FOLLOWING DAY AT 3 45, THERE WERE ONLY 71.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT THE APPLICANT IS RESTRICTING TRUCK TRAFFIC, BUT THAT IS NOT MY ONLY CONCERN.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HOW ASHLAND ROAD AND AN AGING TWO LANE BRIDGE WILL HANDLE ABOUT 700 CARS PER SHIFT AND 8,000 MORE DAILY TRIPS ON ASHLAND ROAD WHEN THERE'S NO PLAN TO EXPAND THE ROAD DOWN TO PCY TRACK AND NO PLAN TO ADDRESS PCY TRACT ITSELF.

UM, AND THE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERCHANGE SOUND GREAT.

THEIR PLAN FOR 2028 IF FUNDING IS SECURED, AND I THINK THAT'S STILL A BIG, IF I'M NOT AGAINST GROWTH, BUT PUTTING INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE FIRST MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME.

THE PROPOSED DISTRIBUTION CENTER WILL BE BAD FOR LOCAL BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA.

THEY WILL BECOME MUCH LESS ACCESSIBLE.

EMS IS A BIG CONCERN, AS YOU'VE HEARD.

WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO RELY ON HANOVER COUNTY TO TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN RESIDENTS.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF OURSELVES, AND THAT MAY NOT HAPPEN IF OUR, IF THE ROAD IS GRIDLOCKED.

YOUR VISION STATEMENT AS YOU WANT GIN TO BE A PROSPEROUS AND VIBRANT COMMUNITY, ADDING A DISTRIBUTION CENTER OF THIS SIZE DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TO A VIBRANT COMMUNITY.

IT SIMPLY DETRACTS FROM GIN BEING A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

PLANS FOR MANNEQUIN AND COURTHOUSE VILLAGES ARE BEING DONE WITH A VERY THOUGHTFUL APPROACH WITH A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNITY INPUT.

WE HAVEN'T HAD THAT SAME OPPORTUNITY FOR INPUT.

EVEN THOUGH THIS MAY BE THE LARGEST BUSINESS APPLICATION AND IMPACT IN THE COUNTY'S HISTORY, I KNOW THE MONEY IS ATTRACTIVE, BUT A PLANNED APPROACH FOR GROWTH WILL PROVIDE THAT REVENUE WITH FEWER NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY.

THE PDC APPLICANTS HAVE TRIED THROUGH THEIR ATTORNEY TO MINIMIZE THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO GLAND, BUT THE IMPACTS ARE SIGNIFICANT AND WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THEM.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION PASSED THIS BY A VERY NARROW MARGIN OF ONE VOTE, WHICH TELLS ME THAT THERE ARE STILL SOME SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS. PLEASE TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE PEOPLE AND THE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA.

AND GUC LINK COUNTY BY VOTING NO, OR AT A MINIMUM, PLEASE DEFER YOUR VOTE AND WAIT FOR V DOT'S UPDATED REPORT AND TAKE MORE TIME TO CONSIDER THE TRUE IMPACT ON ALL OF US.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT.

THANK YOU, MS. WHITE.

AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO MENTION, WE DO HAVE TWO OVERFLOW ROOMS WITH FOLKS THAT ARE A LOT COOLER, SO IF WE COULD MAYBE HAVE FOLKS FILTER THROUGH, UM, WE'RE GONNA GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO COME IN LATER.

YES, SIR.

IF THEY WERE THE, IF ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS WERE IN PLACE NOW, I WOULD NOT BE STANDING HERE OBJECTING TO THE PROJECT.

MY NAME IS PAUL ANDERSON, 74 66 BRANDEN STREET.

UM, I HAD SENT A LETTER TO EACH ONE OF YOU, AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER EVERYTHING I HAD IN THE LETTER, AND I WANT TO THANK THOSE OF YOU WHO CALLED ME BACK TO DISCUSS THE ISSUES THAT I RAISED.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS I'D LIKE TO BRING UP.

ONE IS THE COMMENTS ABOUT THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.

THE DISTRIBUTION CENTER MAY BE ABLE TO CONTROL THE OUTBOUND TRUCK TRAFFIC TO THEIR OWN FACILITIES.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO CONTROL ALL THAT MUCH OF THE INBOUND TRUCK TRAFFIC BECAUSE MUCH OF THAT WILL BE VIA COMMON CARRIER, WHICH THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.

THE COMMON CARRIER GETS THERE WHEN HE GETS THERE, AND THAT'S YOUR AVERAGE TRUCKER WHO PICKS UP A CONTAINER AT THE PORT OR HAULS IT FROM SOME OTHER PLACE IN THE UNITED STATES, WHATEVER THE SOURCE HAPPENS TO BE.

SO, UM, I'M ALSO A LITTLE CONCERNED THEY HAVE 55 LOADING DOCKS.

THE 55 LOADING DOCKS ARE PLANNED BECAUSE THEY ENVISION THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING ALL OF THEM, NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE SITTING EMPTY, THEY WON'T BE BUILDING THEM OTHERWISE.

SO THAT'LL GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF ACTIVITY THEY'RE GONNA HAVE IN THERE.

UH, THE STAGGERED HOURS THAT WERE MENTIONED.

UM, ONE THING YOU SHOULD REMEMBER IS THAT THEIR, UH, SUBSIDIZING A RETAIL ENVIRONMENT AND END USER RETAIL ENVIRONMENT.

SO THINK ABOUT BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER TO THE MIDDLE OF JANUARY, CHRISTMAS SEASON, AND THE EXTRA EMPLOYEES ARE GONNA HAVE TO BRING IN FOR THAT.

IT'LL BE MORE THAN THEIR NORMAL STAFF, I ASSURE YOU IT WILL.

UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BRIDGE.

THE CURRENT BRIDGE OVER I 64 IS A TWO LADEN BRIDGE.

AND ALTHOUGH THERE WERE PLANS TO PUT ANOTHER TWO LANES ACROSS I 64, THAT IS VERY LIKELY TO BE THE VERY LAST THING COMPLETED OF ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT AT LEAST SIX YEARS OF TERRIBLE TRAFFIC ON ASHLAND ROAD WHILE ALL OF THESE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS ARE PUT IN PLACE.

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THE PROBLEM IS WHEN THE, WHEN YOU ALLOW THE GROWTH AND THEN YOU TRY TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, IT'S EVEN HARDER TO COMPLETE THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND IT'S EVEN MORE DIFFICULT ON EVERYBODY USING THE ROADS WHILE BOTH ARE GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I WOULD STRONGLY URGE THAT YOU GIVE SERIOUS CONSIDERATION TO DOING THIS NOW AS OPPOSED TO DOING IT LATER.

AND THE LAST THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION, JUST COMING OVER HERE THIS EVENING, THERE WERE FOUR PROPERTIES ON ASHLAND ROAD IN THAT SAME AREA WITH FOUR SALES SIGNS ON THEM.

I'M PRETTY SURE THAT THE NEW BUYERS ARE NOT GONNA BE CONTINUING FARMING, SO THERE'S GONNA BE EVEN MORE GROWTH IN THAT AREA, WHICH IS GONNA ADD TO THIS PARTICULAR DISTRIBUTION CENTER.

AND FOR SIX YEARS, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SUPPORT IT TILL THAT BRIDGE AND THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE IN PLACE.

THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON.

I, I DON'T NEED MY TIME.

YOU DID GREAT.

GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

UH, MY NAME IS MICHAEL DE ANTONIO.

I LIVE AT 7 1 75 YARD STREET IN GOODLAND.

UH, HEARING WHAT WAS BEING PRESENTED TODAY IS A TREMENDOUS IMPROVEMENT BETWEEN WHAT WAS PRESENTED BEFORE, BUT THE COMMITMENT FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, TRANSPORTATION WISE NEEDS TO HAVE A COMMITMENT.

I KNOW EVERYONE'S WORKING ON TRYING TO IMPROVE THAT.

I KNOW THE FACILITY WILL BRING MANY JOBS AND, AND EMPLOYMENT TO THE, TO THE, UH, AREA, BUT WE KNOW HOW FAST THEY CAN BUILD THE FACILITY.

HOW FAST CAN WE CHANGE THE ROAD? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. D ANTONIO.

GOOD EVENING, EUGENE.

UH, MY NAME IS ROBIN KITZ.

I LIVE AT 7 1 62 YEAR STREET IN GLAND, AND I AM IN, UH, POSITION OF PROJECT ROCKY.

BE DONE WITH THIS PROJECT ALSO, AND NOT HAVE IT DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE DOWN THE ROAD IS, UH, KIND OF A WISH AS I SEE IT, OR BELIEVING YOU HAVE FUNDING THAT COULD CHANGE WITH, YOU KNOW, IN THE MATTER OF MONTHS WITH ADMINISTRATION, BOARD MEMBERS, ET CETERA.

THANK YOU, MS. KITZ.

GOOD EVENING BOARD.

MY NAME'S WILLIAM MAGNO.

I LIVE AT 14 68 1 MILE DRIVE IN HANOVER.

I, UH, AM REPRESENTING SEVERAL OF THE BUSINESS OVER OWNERS IN THE ROCKVILLE COMMERCE CENTER IN LANIER, UH, INDUSTRIAL PARK.

THEY'RE NOT COMFORTABLE SPEAKING, BUT I THOUGHT I'D GIVE IT A SHOT.

UM, I, UM, WHAT I HEARD TONIGHT IS GREAT, THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, IT SOUNDS GOOD.

AND OF ALL THE BUSINESS OWNERS, UH, THERE'S JOE LI FIELD HERE.

THERE'S, UH, DWAYNE HAWTHORN, SEVERAL OF 'EM.

THEY, UH, WE SUPPORT IT, I THINK.

UM, BUT NOT UNTIL SOMETHING'S DONE WITH THE ROAD, THE TURNING LANES, ALL THEY SOUND GREAT.

I'VE SEEN THAT.

UM, ALSO, I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED, I'M A CONTRACTOR.

I'VE DEVELOPED SOME PROPERTY IN THE ROCKVILLE CENTER AND UM, OWN PROPERTY.

UM, BUT A 200 FOOT TURN LANE, THAT'S THREE TRACTOR TRAILERS CLOSE TO FOUR, BUT THAT FOURTH ONE'S GONNA BE STICKING OUT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW UNLESS YOU SPECIFICALLY STOPPED LEFT TURNS ON ASHLAND ROAD WITH BARRIERS THAT YOU CAN STOP.

IT HAD AN ISSUE WHERE I LIVE WHERE THE TRACTOR TRAILERS CAME IN.

THEY ENDED UP GETTING TWO ALONGSIDE EACH OTHER, THREE ON THE EDGES.

YOU KNOW, THEY HAD OVERBUILT AND IT WAS QUITE THE NIGHTMARE.

UM, SO, UH, AND ONE OF THE OTHER SPEAKERS SAID, UH, ABOUT THE FUNDING AND I HEARD HER SAY THAT SHE BELIEVES THERE WILL BE FUNDING THAT IS PUTTING THE CARD AHEAD OF THE HORSE AND BELIEVES ARE NOT VERY GOOD.

UM, YOU KNOW, AS ANOTHER SPEAKER SAID, THE TIME, WAIT, UH, I WOULD LOVE A FOUR MINUTE TIME WAIT, THAT'S LIKE THE 8% INFLATION THEY'RE TELLING US WE HAVE.

EVERYTHING I'M BUYING IS DOUBLED.

UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN A FOUR MINUTE WAIT WHEN I TRY TO GO GET A BISCUIT AT WISE CHOICE, IT'S NOT HAPPENED.

IT FOUR MINUTES.

A LOT OF TIMES I DON'T HAVE 15 MINUTES TO GO GET ONE, SO I JUST GO THE OTHER WAY.

UM, DO YOU, LAST COMMENT, I GUESS I HAVE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FOUR LANE, A DOUBLE DIAMOND INTERSECTION, A TWO LANES, NOT ENOUGH.

I THINK THAT SPEAKS FOR ITSELF THAT A, IF IT TAKES A FOUR LANE DDI I TO HANDLE THIS TRAFFIC AND YOU'RE GONNA PUT THESE CARS ON THE ROAD, THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.

AND ALSO, UH, GLEN ALLEN LANDSCAPE, WHO WANTED TO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY OVER ON, UH, WAS IT THINK IT'S JOHNSON ROAD, AND THEY WERE GONNA HAVE TO PUT A TURN LANE ON ASHLAND ROAD AND A TURN LANE IN FRONT OF THEIR BUILDING AND DO THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE ROAD TO THE PROPERTY.

SO I WOULD EXPECT ALL THAT TO

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UH, V DOT EMPLOYEES, THE WHOLE NINE YARDS.

MR. ADRIANO.

HI, I'M DEBBIE GLI AND I LIVE AT 1468 WINDMILL DRIVE IN HE ANDOVER.

AND I AM HERE TO SPEAK AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGES UNTIL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS COMPLETE, JUST AS ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN.

I OWN PROPERTY AT THE ROCKVILLE COMMERCE CENTER.

I AM A LANDLORD AND I HAVE TENANTS, AND I AM CONCERNED THAT THEY MAY NOT RENEW THEIR LEASES IF THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TRAFFIC IMPACT IS GOING TO BE.

ONE OF MY TENANTS IS A RETAIL LOCATION THAT MAKES APPOINTMENTS FOR CLIENTS.

AND IF THOSE CLIENTS CAN'T GET THERE IN TIME, WHY WOULD MY TENANTS STAY? ANOTHER OF MY TENANTS HAS GOT TRUCKS THAT COME AND GO ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND THEY NEED TO DO THEIR BUSINESS, THEY NEED TO GET THERE.

UM, I'M ALSO CONCERNED THAT THE, THE TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE LIKE FIELD DAY OF THE PAST.

WHEN YOU GO TO FIELD, DAY OF THE PAST, THEY'VE GOT PEOPLE RUNNING, THEY'VE GOT COPS TRYING TO GET YOU IN AND OUT, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S NO THROUGH FAIR QUICKLY.

UM, ALSO THE COMMUNITY IS JUST LEARNING ABOUT THIS APPLICATION.

IT'S NOT WELL KNOWN AND NOBODY I KNOW IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS UNTIL THE FOUR DDI FOUR LANE DDI IS READY AND THAT THE FUNDING IS THERE.

UM, AND IN CONCLUSION, I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THE ZONING CHANGES UNTIL THE TRAFFIC CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.

THANK YOU, MRS. A ADRIANO.

HI, I'M TAMMY JOWERS.

I AM TERRIBLE AT SPEAKING, BUT I AM VERY, UM, INVESTED IN THIS.

SO I, I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO, SO, AND I DID APPRECIATE RESPONSE FROM A COUPLE OF YOU.

UM, I AM A RESIDENT ON ABNER CHURCH ROAD, WHICH IS BETWEEN HOWARDS MILL AND ASHLAND ROAD IN HANOVER.

SO I USED THIS CORRIDOR AS A RESIDENT.

I ALSO AM A BUSINESS OWNER.

MY FAMILY OWNS, UM, ULTIMATE POOLS, WHICH IS LOCATED ON LINEAR LANE, LESS THAN A MILE AND A HALF FROM THE ASHLAND ROAD.

I 64 INTERCHANGE.

UM, ULTIMATE POOLS WAS INITIALLY STARTED IN 1991.

WE OPERATED THE BUSINESS OUT OF OUR HOME UNTIL WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY ON LINEAR LANE AND BUILT OUR BUIL, UM, BUILDING IN 2007.

WE MOVED THERE.

WE HAVE SEEN QUITE A BIT OF GROWTH IN THIS AREA SINCE 2007.

I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I MEAN, I'M ALL FOR THE GROWTH.

I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL THING.

UM, BUT WE HAVE SEEN VERY FEW INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS SINCE THAT TIME.

THE ONLY ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS THE ADDITIONAL TURNING LANE WHEN YOU ARE GOING WESTBOUND ON 64 TO ASHLAND ROAD, AND THAT'S THE ONLY INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENT I CAN THINK OF SINCE 2007.

UM, AS A BUSINESS OWNER ON LINEAR LANE, WE HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THIS PROPOSED REZONING AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

WE ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL OR RESIDENTIAL GROWTH FOR THE AREA.

WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT APPEARS TO BE A LACK OF PREPAREDNESS FOR THAT GROWTH.

UM, WE ARE ABSOLUTELY IN OPPOSITION OF ALLOWING THIS GROWTH TO HAPPEN PRIOR TO COMPLETING THE REQUIRED INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT IT.

THE OLD SAYING OF WHAT BILLY SAID, PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE IS WHAT COMES TO MIND FOR ME.

UM, WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE ARE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS SLATED.

I DID SEE THE TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD FROM THAT THE COMPLETION FOR THOSE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE IN 2030 IF THIS IS APPROVED.

UM, THERE'S POTENTIAL FOR THE BUILDING TO BE COMPLETED 20 24, 20 25.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT AN OVERLAP OF FIVE TO SIX YEARS OF THAT ROAD CONGESTION.

AND MY FEAR IS I HAVE EMPLOYEES, I HAVE CUSTOMERS, I HAVE VENDORS THAT I NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET TO AND I NEED TO BE ABLE FOR THEM TO GET TO ME.

THEY ARE GOING TO BYPASS ME IF IT BECOMES TOO MUCH OF A PROBLEM, WHICH IS ALSO GOING TO DEVALUE THE INVESTMENT I HAVE MADE IN THE PROPERTY AND IN THAT BUSINESS.

UM, THE ADDITIONAL CONSTRU TRAFFIC CONSTRUCTION AND IMPACT IS GONNA HAVE DETRIMENTAL IMPACT TO US.

UM, THE PROTRAC PROJECTED TRAFFIC ISSUES WILL ADD SIGNIFICANT DOWNTIME TO OUR DAILY SCHEDULE, MEANING THAT WE WILL BE PAYING FOR VEHICLE OPERATION TIME, GAS AND EMPLOYEE PAYROLL FOR IDLE TIMES SETTING IN TRAFFIC.

AND THIS IS SCHEDULED TO GO ON FOR FOUR TO FIVE YEARS.

DO I NEED TO GIVE SOME, SOMEBODY GIMME A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW.

OUR ABILITY TO JUST WRAP IT UP PLEASE.

THAT, UM,

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AM I I DONE? NO, YOU CAN JUST, OH.

OUR ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE OUR BUSINESS AT AN ACCEPTABLE PERFORMANCE LEVEL WILL CERTAINLY BE IMPEDED AND THE VALUE OF OUR PROPERTY IS GONNA GO DOWN.

SO WE ARE OPPOSING, PRIMARILY DUE TO THE INADEQUATE ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE CURRENTLY IN PLACE, THE CURRENT TRAFFIC CONDITION SHOULD BE IMPROVED AND CONSTRUCTION FOR FUTURE GROWTH SHOULD BE BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO APPROVING THE ADDITIONAL GROWTH WITH THE INCREASED TRAFFIC TO THIS ROADWAY.

UM, I, I WILL SAY LET'S TAKE CARE OF THE NECESSARY INFRASTRUCTURE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS SO THAT WE CAN ALL LOOK FORWARD TO BENEFITING FROM THE EXPECTING GROWTH.

I DO IN ADDITION HAVE MA'AM, I HAVE TO ASK YOU TO STOP PLEASE.

MS. JONES, CAN I GIVE YOU THESE SIGNATURES THAT I HAVE? YES, PLEASE, PLEASE.

JUST HAND 'EM DIRECT.

I HAVE 70 PLUS SIGNATURES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU MS. JAR.

AND BY THE WAY, Y'ALL ARE DOING A GREAT JOB WITH THE SEATING THING.

I'M VERY, IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE TRIED THAT, SO IT'S WORKING OUT REALLY WELL.

SO IT'S MOVING RIGHT ON.

UH, GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

MY NAME IS LINDA PRICE AND I LIVE AT 74 72 BRANDIS STREET IN PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

AND I'M ONLY A FEW HOUSES AWAY FROM ASHLAND ROAD TO THE PROPONENTS OF THIS PROJECT, ROCKY.

UM, I THINK OF OLD EXPRESSION IF SOMETHING IS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, THEN IT'S PROBABLY NOT TRUE.

AND THAT'S THE WAY THAT I SEE THIS PROJECT.

I OPPOSE PROJECT ROCKY PRIMARILY BECAUSE OF ITS PREDICTED AWFUL IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF MY LIFE AND THE LIFE OF MY NEIGHBORS.

NOT ONLY AM I CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC JAMS ON THE ALREADY IMPASSABLE ASHLAND ROAD, WHICH YOU'VE HEARD OTHER SPEAKERS DISCUSS, BUT THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES.

UH, THE NOISE GENERATED BY TRUCKS, AIR POLLUTION GENERATED BY TRUCKS AS ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

AND OF COURSE, ALTHOUGH WE WERE TOLD THAT IT'S NOT REALLY IMPORTANT, WE ARE CURIOUS ABOUT WHO'S GONNA BE THE END USER OF THIS FACILITY AND WHAT ABOUT THE FIRE SAFETY FOR A BUILDING THAT'S TALLER THAN, UH, THE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS CAN REACH.

I WAS VERY HAPPY TO HEAR ABOUT THE NEW PROFFER, UM, THAT MS. HUNTER BROUGHT UP TONIGHT THAT TRUCKS WOULD NOT BE TURNING LEFT TO NEED TO LEAVE THE FACILITY.

BUT HOW ABOUT THE TRUCKS ENTERING THE FACILITY? CAN THERE BE A PROFFER WHERE THE TRUCKS CAN ONLY ENTER AND LEAVE USING I 64, NOT JUST TRUCKS THAT ARE LEAVING THE FACILITY.

AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE'S THE THOUSANDS OF CARS THAT ARE GONNA BE ON ASHLAND ROAD OF THE EMPLOYEES GOING TO AND FROM THIS FACILITY.

QUITE SIMPLY, I THINK THAT THE PROCESS HAS BEEN RUSHED AND I THINK THAT YOU'RE BEING ASKED SUPERVISORS TO APPROVE SOMETHING WITHOUT ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU NEED.

UM, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAD REITERATED THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

THEY TOLD YOU THAT ALYN ROAD WAS ALREADY CONGESTED MOST OF THE BUSINESS DAY.

THERE'S NO FINAL REPORT FROM VDOT YET.

THERE'S NO COMMENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION BY FIRE RESCUE UTILITIES PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND I LIKE THE OTHER SPEAKERS, APPLAUD GROWTH, ECONOMIC GROWTH TO GLAND COUNTY.

BUT I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE PLANNED CAREFULLY PLANNED, AND I DO FEEL THAT IT'S VITAL THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BE HERE BEFORE WE START THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS FACILITY.

SO I BEG YOU TO PLEASE LISTEN TO ALL OF US, YOUR CONSTITUENTS, YOUR FELLOW NEIGHBORS, AND DENY THE APPLICATIONS TONIGHT.

ANYWAY, THE FULFILLMENT FACILITIES PROPOSED.

THANK YOU, MS. PRICE.

SORRY, MY NAME IS DAN LOWE.

MR. LOW, CAN YOU PLEASE, UH, HIT THE LITTLE BUTTON? THAT'S IT STAYS, IT'S AT THE BASE OF THE MICROPHONE.

IT STAYS IF WE DON'T .

HELLO? I'M SORRY YOU.

ANYWAY, UH, DAN LOWES, THANKS.

7 0 0 4 BEN WHOLE CIRCLE.

AND, UH, SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO READ THIS, SO I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

MY MEMORY AT 85 YEARS OLD ISN'T INTO VERY TOO GOOD.

THE FULFILLMENT FACILITY IS PROPOSED ON PROPERTY CLASSIFIED AS INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.

EXAMPLES OF COMPANIES THAT ARE IN THIS AREA ARE MARTIN MARRIT.

OF COURSE, IN LUCK STONE WITH THESE TWO COMPANIES AND COMPANIES LIKE THEM TO BE IN THE CORRIDOR, THERE WILL NOT BE A TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

BUT IF YOU PUT A FULFILLMENT CENTER THAT IS

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105 ON 105 ACRES WITH 650,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, 55 LOADING AND UNLOADING DOCKS, 414 TRAILER PARKING AREAS AND 1,720 SPOTS FOR 1000 EMPLOYEES.

THE, UH, AND WITH CHANGES PROBABLY WITH EMPLOYEES, YOU HAVE MAJOR PROBLEM WITH THE PROPOSED ROAD CHANGES THAT WON'T BE COMPLETED UNTIL 2028.

THIS FACILITY WERE UP OPERATE 24 7 WITH TWO SHIFTS, WHICH I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED TO THIRD SHIFT OR 24 7, BUT ANY RATE WITH ABOUT 500 CARS PER SHIFT AND ALL ARRIVING 30 MINUTES BEFORE FOR THEIR SHIFT, AND YOU GOT 500 CARS LEAVING THE SHIFTS COMING OUT.

SO YOU GOT A THOUSAND CARS GOING LIKE CRAZY I GUESS.

BUT ANYWAY, IN ADDITION, THE SEMIS IN AND OUT DURING THAT 24 HOUR PERIOD AND MAYBE VANS ALSO, BUT I GUESS THAT'S NOT THE CASE ANYMORE.

UH, SO ANYWAY, A MESS THAT THESE ROADS AND BRIDGES CAN NEVER HANDLE.

AND THAT'S EVEN WITH THE, ALL THE THINGS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING AND SO FORTH.

IT JUST WON'T WORK.

THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES IN GUC AND HANDOVER DO NOT DESERVE TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF TRAFFIC AND NOISE PROBLEMS WHEN THERE'S A MUCH BETTER AREAS FOR THIS FACILITY TO BE BUILT.

MY SUBDIVISION IS PARK PARKSIDE VILLAGE WITH TWO ENTRANCES, WHICH WILL BE FLOODED WITH CARS TRYING TO ESCAPE THE LONG LINES TO THE STOPLIGHT AT PCY TRACK IN ASHLAND ROAD.

AND THIS WOULD BE MANY TIMES BECAUSE IT'S A 24 7 FACILITY, THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF THE USER IS NOT A PROBLEM AND WHO CARES WHO IT IS WHEN TRAFFIC AND NOISE PROBLEMS WILL EXIST REGARDLESS OF WHO'S THERE.

JOANNE HUNTER, THE GIN DE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GAVE A GOOD PRESENTATION ON JULY 7TH ON THIS FULFILLMENT CENTER, AND SHE DISCUSSED EVERYTHING VERY THOROUGHLY WITH THE PATONI DEVELOPMENT PLAN.

BUT THAT PLAN WILL NOT WORK FOR THIS LOCATION.

PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS FULFILLMENT PROPOSAL AND JOANNE WILL HAVE MANY MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT ONE OR TWO BUSINESSES ON THIS PRIME, PRIME, 105 ACRES THAT WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE TO MASS TRAFFIC AND NOISE PROBLEMS, AND AT THE SAME TIME GIVE THE NEEDED TAX REVENUE TO GOOD OLD GIN COUNTY.

THANK YOU MR. FLOATS.

IT'S GOOD.

IT WAS ON YOU TURNED IT OFF, IT OFF.

SOMETHING MY LIKE .

THERE WE GO.

THANK YOU G EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.

I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU TONIGHT.

MY NAME IS WAYNE FERRELL.

I LIVE AT 72 84 INGHAM COURT.

UH, I'M ALSO OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME.

I HAD ASKED THAT, UH, A LITTLE ONE AND A HALF MINUTE, UH, CLIP, UH, BE SHOWN, UH, ABOUT A SIMILAR FACILITY IN MILFORD AND MASSACHUSETTS AND ALL THE HORRORS THAT THAT CAME OF IT.

UH, MR. FAR I WANT DO, UH, THANK YOU FOR COMING.

IT'S GOOD TO TALK TO YOU YESTERDAY.

UM, COULD WE RESTART HIS TIME? UM, SO I JUST WANNA GIVE EVERYBODY A HEADS UP.

UH, MR. FARRELL HAD, UH, SENT A, A YOUTUBE VIDEO TO A LINK TO A YOUTUBE VIDEO TO THE BOARD TO REVIEW.

AND IT WAS ABOUT A MINUTE AND A HALF OF, OF FACILITY IN MASSACHUSETTS AND TALK.

IT TALKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ALL THE CHALLENGES WITH IT.

WHILE IT IS GOOD FOR ACADEMIC GROWTH, THERE ARE CHALLENGES WITH NOT JUST THE TRAFFIC, BUT ALSO WITH, UM, UH, ACCIDENTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND WE DID NOT WANT TO SHOW THE YOUTUBE VIDEO BECAUSE OF THAT FORMAT, BUT EACH OF THE BOARD HAS REVIEWED THAT VIDEO AND, UM, SO, SO WE WANTED, UH, MR. FARRELL TO, TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHILE THE, THE AUDIENCE WILL, THE AUDIENCE WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

THE COMMENTS WERE FOR THE BOARD AND WE HAVE REVIEWED THEM, SIR.

SO, AND I ALWAYS SAY THAT MR. CHAIRMAN WAS NICE ENOUGH TO CALL ME AND TELL ME THIS AND GIMME HEADS UP, PUSH AWAY.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO BUSINESS.

VILLAGE IS A 55 AND OLDER COMMUNITY.

IN ANY EVENT, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME OF YOU MAY THINK THAT, OH, THAT'S APPLES AND ORANGES, UH, THAT IS A, WHAT THEY CALL LAST MILE FACILITY, AND THIS IS A MID MILE FACILITY AND THERE WOULD BE LESS TRAFFIC HERE THAN THERE.

WELL, THEY, WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH.

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT ALL THE EMPLOYEES KNOW THE PARKING SPACES AND ALL THE TRUCKS.

UH, AND TO, UM, , IT REMINDS ME OF LIKE THE GUY THAT SAYS, LOOK, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA CUT ALL FIVE OF MY FINGERS OFF, 10 OF MY FINGERS OFF.

NOW YOU TELL ME, ONLY CUT FIVE.

SO YOU SHOULD FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT .

UH, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S LESS DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S GOOD.

UH, I DO WANT TO ASK YOUR INDULGENCE AND I, UH, I LOVE GUC AND COUNTY.

I THINK IT'S GENERALLY VERY WELL MANAGED, BUT I'M, I HAVE SOME COMMENTS HERE THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU TAKE WITH, UH, WITH DUE RESPECT.

UM, WE'RE, PARKSIDE

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WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIDS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY, AT LEAST NOT TO LIVE THERE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIDS IN SCHOOL.

UH, SO WE DON'T, WE DON'T REQUIRE THOSE SERVICES FROM YOU.

UH, THERE ARE NO PARKS AND RECREATIONAL FACILITIES IN OUR PART OF THE, OF THE COUNTY, SO WE DON'T REQUIRE YOU TO DO THAT.

UM, WE DO, UH, I WANNA SAY THIS NICELY.

WE DO, WE DO USE YOUR WATER.

WE DO PAY FOR THAT, OF COURSE, .

AND OF COURSE, OF COURSE THE WATER SMELLS LIKE ROTTEN EGGS AND LEAVES SERIOUSLY AND LEAVES TERRIBLE BLACK RINGS AROUND YOUR COMMODE THAT YOU HAVE CLEAN OFF ALMOST DAILY.

UH, YOUR WATER DEPARTMENT'S WELL AWARE OF THIS AND THEY SWEAR THAT, UH, THAT'S STILL SAFE.

I, I HAVE NO IDEA.

I JUST KNOW IT SMELLS BAD AND LOOKS BAD.

UM, THE, UM, IF YOU APPROVE THIS APPLICATION NOW, UH, WE OBVIOUSLY CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, FIRE, POLICE, EMS, UH, WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT TRAFFICKING.

IT'S GONNA BE THREE ADDITIONAL SIGNALS IF I READ IT RIGHT IN THERE.

SO THREE ADDITIONAL LIGHTS THAT THOSE, UH, EMERGENCY FACILITIES WOULD HAVE TO COME THROUGH, UH, AND UH, BEFORE ANY OF THOSE COULD GET THERE.

UH, THE IDEA OF HANOVER, UH, FACILITY AT, UM, ROCKVILLE, WHICH IS 2, 3, 4 MILES AWAY, WHICH WOULD CERTAINLY BE CLOSER THAN THAN CENTERVILLE AND WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH, BUT ONE STOP LIGHT, UH, TO GET TO US, UH, WOULD BE NICE.

BUT, UH, I HEARD THAT WAS WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM.

IT'S LIKE WE'RE WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE UH, UH, STATE VIDO AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE I COME FROM.

THAT'S WHAT THEY CALL LI AND PROMISES.

UH, I FEEL A LOT BETTER.

UH, IF WE, LIKE OTHER PEOPLE SAID, IF WE HAD THAT IN PLACE BEFORE YOU WOULD SERIOUSLY CONSIDER THIS FACILITY.

I SEE THE RED LIGHT BLINKING .

SO IN ANY EVENT, I WISH YOU WOULD DEFER THIS UNTIL THESE, UH, OTHER ISSUES ARE SOLVED.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. FURROW.

HELLO, MY NAME IS JOSHUA TAP.

I LIVE ON 82 HARVEY ROAD AND I'M IN THE UNIQUE POSITION BECAUSE I USED TO RUN THE NIGHT SHIFT AT THE RICK FIVE FACILITY AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHAT IS COMING HERE, WHO THE APPLICANT IS, AND THIS IS GOING TO BE ROBOTIC SORT CENTER.

UH, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THE NUMBERS THAT YOU'RE GIVEN ARE THE BEST NUMBERS YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

PEAK SEASON IS NOT GOING TO BE THOSE NUMBERS.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOUBLE IF THEIR CAPACITY IS STRAINED IN THEIR OTHER FACILITIES, IT WILL BE TRIPLE.

YOU HAVE 55 LOADING DOCKS.

ABOUT 40 TO 30 OF THOSE WILL BE USED DURING PEAK.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 25 DURING THE REST OF THE SEASON.

THEY HAVE 1700 SOME PARKING SPOTS, RIGHT? THAT'S ENOUGH FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH PEAK.

IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO UP TO A FOURTH OR FIFTH SHIFT, THEY WILL GET AUXILIARY PARKING LOTS AND THEY WILL SHUTTLE THEM IN.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT MORE THAN WHAT YOU'RE BEING GIVEN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THIS IS ASSUMING THE BEST CASE.

THESE ROADS ARE HORRIBLE.

IF YOU'RE COMING FROM BROAD STREET TRYING TO GET ON I 64, I WAIT FIVE MINUTES SOMETIMES TRYING TO TURN WEST TO GO TO UVA WHERE I GO TO SCHOOL.

NOW, I DON'T HAVE A FIGHT IN THIS BECAUSE I GRADUATE IN WINTER AND I'M LEAVING THIS STATE.

AND SO I'M JUST HERE TO EDUCATE.

AND THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE KNOW THAT 2028 IS THE BEST CASE FOR GETTING THIS, UH, ROAD IMPROVEMENT AND IT'S STILL NOT GONNA FIX IT BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA EXPAND MORE AND WE'RE JUST GONNA BE PLAYING CATCH UP ON INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE NEXT WHAT, 15 YEARS.

AND THIS IS GOING TO PUT A HUGE DAMPER ON WHAT EVERYBODY THINKS IN THIS ROOM ABOUT YOU GUYS AND THE REST OF THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

HAVE A GOOD ONE.

THANK SO MUCH AROUND HERE.

DO I NEED TO HIT ANYTHING? NO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH MY HAND.

AND MY NAME IS BOB RU AT 7 0 38 BEN HALL CIRCLE.

HI.

SHE HAVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND IF YOU'RE GIVING ME TIME, OKAY.

SURE.

MY NAME IS ROSE THOMAS AND I LIVE AT 70 40 BEN HALL CIRCLE AND PARKSIDE VILLAGE AND I DEFER MY TIME TO STEVE LEVETTE.

UH, MY NAME IS MASS THOMAS AND UH, I'M, UM, I LIVE AT, UM, 70 40 BEN HALL, CIRCLE TWO.

I'D LIKE TO PASS MY TIME TO STEVE HERE.

MY NAME IS KRU AT 7 0 38 BEN HALL CIRCLE AND I DEFER MY TIME TO STEVE LEVIT.

THANKS.

MR. RUTH IS THE, THE FOUR WHAT?

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AND I LIKE TO DEFER MY TIME TO STEVE LEVIT.

AT LEAST I CAN'T GET OUT OF THIS.

CAN YOU CLOSE THIS? OKAY.

UM, WHICH ONE IS YOUR, IS IT A PDF? MM-HMM.

FALLS TO THE GROUND, MAY POTENTIALLY CONTAMINATE SOIL AND CROPS.

THOSE ARE POWERPOINT.

NO, NOT A, I'M SORRY.

IT'S POWERPOINT.

THAT'S, I APOLOGIZE.

KEEP GOING AND GET THIS THING.

WE CAN'T WORK IT FROM THERE.

AND THIS IS FORWARD AND THAT'S YOUR POINT.

MY NAME IS STEVE LEVITT.

I LIVE AT 70 36 BEN HALL CIRCLE.

MUCH HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, BUT I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE ENVIRONMENTAL EF EFFECTS OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

ROCKY, ALTHOUGH THE FACILITY'S NOT A MANUFACTURING PLANT PROJECT, ROCKY WILL GENERATE STAGGERING AMOUNT OF DR OF GREENHOUSE GASES IN THE FORM OF CO2 EMISSIONS AND THE AIRBORNE POLLUTANT CALLED DPM.

AS I STUDIED THE DOCUMENTATION FILED WITH THE COUNTY, I BEGAN TO WONDER IF THERE WAS ANY ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES.

I REACHED OUT TO DR.

RODNEY DYER, DEAN OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL SCIENCES AT VCU, WHO PUT ME IN TOUCH WITH THEIR RESIDENT ATMOSPHERIC AND AIR QUALITY EXPERT DR.

VICKY CONNORS.

AFTER CONSULTING WITH DR.

CONNORS, I FOUND MULTIPLE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES, WHICH HELPED ME ANALYZE AND QUANTIFY THE IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

I'VE DETERMINED THAT THE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS GENERATED BY PROJECT ROCKY WILL BE ON THE MAGNITUDE OF 608 METRIC TONS OF CO2 PER WEEK TO GIVE THIS WEEKLY MAGNITUDE SOME CONTEXT.

ACCORDING TO THE EPA 608 METRIC TONS OF CO2 EMISSIONS IS EQUIVALENT TO 672,697 POUNDS OF COAL BURNED.

3.4 RAIL CARS WORTH OF COAL BURNED WERE 1,408 BARRELS OF OIL CONSUMED WERE 24,828 PROPANE CYLINDERS USED FOR HOME BARBECUES.

PUT ANOTHER WAY, THINK ABOUT A SMOKE STACK ON TOP OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

ROCKY BUILDING, SPEWING EXHAUST OF 3.4 RAIL CARS WORTH OF COAL BURNED PER WEEK.

CLEARLY, ROCKY WILL BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL NIGHTMARE OF A MAGNITUDE GIN HAS NEVER SEEN.

THESE CO2 EMISSIONS ARE NOT BUILDING RELATED, THOUGH THEY'RE A DIRECT RESULT OF VEHICLE TRAFFIC.

IN ADDITION TO CO2 EMISSIONS, SIGNIFICANT DIESEL PARTICULATE MATTER OR DPM WILL BE RELEASED INTO THE AIR.

DPM IS A COMPONENT OF DIESEL EXHAUST THAT INCLUDES SO PARTICLES MADE UP PRIMARILY OF CARBON ASH METALLIC ABRASION PARTICLES, SULFATES, AND SCATES.

IN JUNE 20TH, 2012, THE INTERNATIONAL AGENCY OF CANCER RESEARCH CLASSIFIED DIESEL EXHAUST OR DE INCLUDING THE DPM AS A KNOWN HUMAN CARCINOGEN.

IN JANUARY, 2013, OSHA RELEASED AN ALERT WARNING THAT DIESEL EXHAUST AND DPM ARE HAZARDOUS.

ACCORDING TO OSHA, SHORT-TERM EXPOSURE TO D AND DPM CAN CAUSE HEADACHE, DIZZINESS, AND IRRITATION OF THE EYES.

NEWS AND THROAT PROLONGED EXPOSURE CAN INCREASE THE RISK OF CARDIOVASCULAR, CARDIOPULMONARY, AND RESPIRATORY DISEASES AS WELL AS LUNG CANCER.

THE ACTUAL IMPACT OF THE DIESEL EMISSIONS DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH TIME THE TRUCK SPEND IDLING THE SPEED AT WHICH THEY TRAVEL AND THE EFFICIENCY OF THEIR ENGINES.

AIRBORNE DPM, WHICH

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WILL CROPS CONTAMINATED BY DPM BE HARMFUL.

IF PROJECT ROCKY IS APPROVED WILL CERTAINLY FIND OUT.

IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE CONTINUAL RELEASE OF LARGE MAGNITUDES OF DIESEL EXHAUST HAS A POTENTIAL TO CREATE AN ACID RAIN HOTSPOT, WHICH WILL FURTHER DAMAGE OUR LOCAL ENVIRONMENT.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO QUANTIFY THE ACTUAL CONCENTRATIONS AND DISPERSION OF DPM WITHOUT MORE DATA ON THE ACTUAL TRACTOR TRAILER SERVICING THE FACILITY QUALITATIVELY.

HOWEVER, WITH A WEEKLY AVERAGE OF 13,000 TRUCKS OF VARYING AGE AND MAINTENANCE TRAVELING THROUGH THE REGION, DPM WILL DEFINITELY BE AN ISSUE AS A CO2 AND DPM EMISSIONS WERE ANALYZED IN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ZONE WITH A 10 MILE RADIUS AROUND THE PROPOSED SITE WAS ESTABLISHED.

THIS MAP PROVIDES A TOOL TO ISOLATE AND ANALYZE PROJECT ROCKY'S LOCALIZED ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECT.

THE CO2 EMISSIONS CALCULATIONS AND CONCLUSIONS HAVE ALL BEEN VETTED BY DR.

CONNORS WHO AGREES WITH THE METHODOLOGY AND THE RESULTS.

I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THE CALCULATIONS, BUT I'LL PROVIDE THEM TO YOU FOR REVIEW AS AN OVERVIEW.

KIMLEY HORN'S PROJECTED DAILY VEHICLE ACCOUNT IS EIGHTY FIVE HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN.

THIS COUNT WAS DIVIDED INTO TWO GROUPS, TRACTOR TRAILERS AND EMPLOYEE VEHICLES.

THESE RESULTS SHOW THAT 1,851 TRACTOR TRAILERS OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 MILE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ZONE WILL GENERATE 419.29 METRIC TONS OF CO2 PER WEEK.

THE SIXTY SIX HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX EMPLOYEE VEHICLES OPERATING WITHIN THE SAME AREA WILL GENERATE 188.79 METRIC TONS OF CO2 PER WEEK.

THE TWO COMBINED WILL GENERATE AN ESTIMATED WEEKLY MAGNITUDE OF 608.08 METRIC TONS OF CO2 ANNUALLY.

PROJECT ROCKY WILL ADD 31,620 METRIC TONS OF CO2 TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ZONE.

NEUTRALIZING.

THESE CO2 EMISSIONS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WOULD REQUIRE 37,420 ACRES OF US FOREST.

THE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE BEING PROPOSED WILL NOT BE LOCALIZED TO 105 ACRES ON ASHLAND ROAD.

IT WILL IMPACT THE ENTIRE REGION.

IF PROJECT ROCKY IS APPROVED, WE'LL ALL FIND OUT WHAT GREENHOUSE GASES ARE REALLY ALL ABOUT.

I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ONE ADDITIONAL FACT PROJECT ROCKY IF APPROVED WILL BE THE SECOND E ECOMMERCE SORTING CENTER IN THE REGION.

AMAZON HAS ANOTHER SORTING CENTER NEARING COMPLETION PROJECT SPEEDWAY NEAR R IR ON THE RICHMOND HENRICO TURNPIKE.

THE METRICS SEEM VERY SIMILAR TO THOSE YOU ARE CONSIDERING.

THAT FACILITY TOO WILL HAVE ITS OWN 10 MILE RADIUS ENVIRONMENTAL, ECONOMIC, OR IN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ZONE.

IF PROJECT ROCKY IS APPROVED AND BUILT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ZONES OF THE TWO FACILITIES WILL OVERLAP.

I HAVE NO ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS OR PROJECTIONS FOR THE OVERLAP AREA EXCEPT TO SAY THAT IT WILL NOT BE GOOD.

THE QUESTION BOILS DOWN TO A SIMPLE CHOICE, WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT, THE ANTICIPATED ECONOMIC GAINS OF PROJECT ROCKY OR THE HEALTH OF OUR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, NEIGHBORS, AND ENVIRONMENT.

I REALIZE THAT I URGE YOU TO, TO PROTECT OUR HEALTH AND SAFETY AND SAY NO TO PROJECT ROCKY.

NOW I REALIZE THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WISH TO MAKE COMMENTS THIS EVENING, BUT WITH YOUR PERMISSION AND THAT OF OUR FELLOW CITIZENS, I HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE INFORMATION JUST PRESENTED.

WHO'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON ON IT FROM DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.

I HAVE DR.

KEITH KEN HEAT WALL OF PHYSICIAN WITH MORE THAN 40 YEARS EXPERIENCE.

DEBORAH TRUSLOW A NEWBORN CARE NURSE WITH MORE THAN 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE.

MARGARET LEVITT, WHO WILL PRESENT HER OWN PERSONAL COMMENTS PLUS SOME ADDITIONAL EXPERT COMMENTS.

CAROL CUNNINGHAM IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER WITH MORE THAN 30 YEARS EXPERIENCE.

AND TOM OWEN, WHO WILL PROVIDE A PERSONAL PERSPECTIVE.

YEAH, THAT'S, NO, THAT'S FINE.

I DON'T KNOW HE WAS WITH YOU.

PARDON? CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? SURE.

I AM DR.

KEN HEAT.

WOO.

NEWLY RETIRED FAMILY PHYSICIAN AFTER 42 YEARS OF SERVICE.

CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE?

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OH YES.

7 0 3 1 BEN HALL CIRCLE.

A MULTIPLE OF REASONS, AND ADULT BREATHES 12 TO 20 TIMES PER MINUTE.

TODAY I SPEAK AS A LONG SERVING PHYSICIAN IN THIS COMMUNITY, STILL WITH RESERVATIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ALONG ASHLAND ROAD.

WE'VE ALREADY HEARD MANY IMPASSIONED SUBJECTIVE, UH, CONCERNS AND SOME OBJECTIVE CONCERNS AS WELL ABOUT THE AIR QUALITY POLLUTANTS SUCH AS THE P UM, PARTICULATE MATTER, THE NITROGEN OXIDE, SULFUR DIOXIDE, THE CARBON MONOXIDE.

I HAVE MADE A CAREER IN FAMILY PRACTICE, MUCH OF IT MANAGING RESPIRATORY DISEASES SUCH AS C O P D, ASTHMA AND LUNG CANCER.

IN RECENT YEARS, THE TEACHING MODEL IN MEDICINE HAS BECOME THIS EVIDENCE BASED TEACHING.

AS SUCH, THERE ARE CERTAINLY DATA TO BE SHARED COMPARED TO OTHER US METROPOLITAN AREAS.

VIRGINIA IS AT ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK FOR HIGH OZONE DAYS AND PARTICULATE POLLUTION.

VIRGINIA STILL HAS A 6% PREVALENCE RATE FOR C O P D.

C O P D IS STILL THE THIRD LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH AND DISABILITY IN VIRGINIA.

AND WHILE THE VAST MAJORITY OF CHRONIC LUNG DISEASE IS RELATED TO TOBACCO USE, NOTE THAT 20% OF C O P D AND 20% OF THOSE WHO DIE FROM C O P D DO NOT HAVE A TOBACCO HISTORY.

ENVIRONMENTAL EXPOSURES ARE SIGNIFICANT FOR MANY.

AND WHILE I APPRECIATE THE NEW WAY OF THE EVIDENCE BASED SOCIETY, I STILL AM AN OLD SCHOOL PHYSICIAN.

AS I LOOK AT MY PATIENTS, AT THE PATIENTS IN FRONT OF ME, I KNOW WHO WILL BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY URBAN SPRAWL, INDUSTRIALIZATION, AND THE DECLINE OF AIR QUALITY OF THIS MAGNITUDE.

THE MANY WITH CHRONIC ILLNESSES OF C O P D, ASTHMA, EMPHYSEMA, AND CORONARY ARTERY DISEASE, THE YOUNG AND THE AGING OF OUR COMMUNITIES, AND NOW REALIZE THAT WE AT PARKSIDE VILLAGE RESIDENTS, WE ARE THESE PEOPLE AND WE WOULD BE PLACED DIRECTLY IN THE PATH OF A PREVENTABLE STORM.

WHEN WE MOVED TO THIS AREA FIVE YEARS AGO, IT WAS AND STILL IS TO DATE CONSIDERED A RELATIVELY QUIET AND CLEAN PLACE TO LIVE.

AND WITH GOOD AIR QUALITY TURNING DOWN THE ROCKY PROJECT WOULD HELP PREVENT THIS AREA FROM BECOMING ANOTHER MICROCOSM OF AIRBORNE DISEASE STATISTICS.

MY NAME IS DEBORAH TRUSLOW.

I LIVE AT 1 0 9 25 KINCAID ROAD IN GLEN ALLEN.

UM, I'VE BEEN AN RN FOR MOTHERS AND THEIR BABIES FOR THE LAST 36 YEARS.

I'M CERTIFIED IN MATERNAL NEWBORN NURSING.

UM, BOSTON UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE HAS DONE STUDIES ON THE EFFECTS OF POLLUTION ON FERTILITY.

THERE WAS NO MAJOR DIFFERENCE IN THE ABILITY TO GET PREGNANT WITH THE FIRST CHILD, BUT WOMEN WITH EXTENDED EXPOSURE TO POLLUTANTS HAD MORE DIFFICULTY GETTING PREGNANT WITH SUBSEQUENT UH, PREGNANCIES.

ANOTHER STUDY IN DELI, WHICH HAS A HIGH, UM, AIR POLLUTION, LOOKED AT MORE THAN 10,500 BIRTHS AND FOUND A CORRELATION WITH WEIGHT COMPLICATIONS OF THE NEWBORN OR PREMATURE DEATH.

PREGNANT WOMEN EXPOSED TO POLLUTANTS ARE AT A GREATER RISK OF NEWBORNS WITH BIRTH DEFECTS AS THE EXPOSURE DURING CELL DIVISION AND ORGAN DEVELOPMENT.

POLLUTION EXPOSURE CAN INCREASE THE RISK OF STILLBIRTH, SGA OR SMALL FOR GESTATIONAL AGE NEWBORNS OR PRETERM BIRTHS.

PREMATURE BIRTHS LEAD TO AN EXTENDED NEWBORN ICU STAY.

POOR LUNG DEVELOPMENT LEADING TO CHRONIC LUNG DISEASE, INCREASED RISK OF SEPSIS, WHICH CAN CAUSE DEATH, LOW BLOOD SUGARS, FEEDING COMPLICATIONS, BRAIN BLEEDS LEADING TO CEREBRAL PALSY OR MENTAL RETARDATION.

UM, A STUDY DONE IN PENNSYLVANIA SHOWED THAT EXPOSURE DURING THE FIRST TRIMESTER OF PREGNANCY INCREASED THE RISK OF PREECLAMPSIA IN THE MOTHER AND LATER IN THE PREGNANCY, PREECLAMPSIA OR ECLAMPSIA INCREASES THE RISK OF MATERNAL AND OR FETAL DEATH.

JOHNS HOPKINS STUDIED 5,059 MOTHER INFANT PAIRS AND FOUND INCREASE IN INTRAUTERINE INFLAMMATION.

WHEN LOOKING AT THE PLACENTA AFTER DELIVERY, THEY ASSESSED FINE PARTICULATE MATTER AND COMPARED IT TO THE AIR QUALITY STATIONS NEAR WHERE THEY LIVED.

31% OF THE WOMEN WERE FOUND TO HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO POLLUTION AT OR ABOVE THE EPA STANDARDS.

THE HIGHER THE LEVELS OF EXPOSURE, THE GREATER LEVELS OF INTERUTERINE INFLAMMATION.

AND I QUOTE FROM THEIR STUDY, THESE RESULTS HELD UP EVEN WHEN RESEARCHERS ACCOUNTED FOR FACTORS SUCH AS SMOKING, AGE, OBESITY, AND EDUCATION LEVELS.

THIS INFLAMMATION IS A LEADING CAUSE OF PRE-TERM DELIVERIES.

INFANTS AND CHILDREN ARE IMPACTED BY POLLUTION MORE THAN ADULTS FOR

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WHEREAS A NEWBORN BREATHES 40 TO 60 TIMES PER MINUTE RESULTING IN AN INCREASE OF INHALED POLLUTANTS.

ALSO, THEIR BODIES ARE STILL DEVELOPING.

CHILDREN SPEND A LOT OF TIME PLAYING OUTSIDE WHERE THERE'S GREATER EXPOSURE.

THEY'RE GROWING BODIES THAT ARE EXPOSED TO THESE POLLUTANTS WHEN THEY'RE YOUNG OR MORE LIKELY TO DEVELOP LATENT DISEASES AS ADULTS, SUCH AS CANCER OR OTHER CHRONIC MEDICAL FRONT PROBLEMS. AND WHAT ABOUT DEVELOPING BRAINS? IT CAN AFFECT COGNITIVE AND BEHAVIORAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THIS INFORMATION WHEN MAKING YOUR DECISION.

IT COULD BE YOUR FAMILY THAT'S AFFECTED BY THIS PROJECT IF IT'S APPROVED.

HI, MY NAME IS SUE S ROSSI.

I'M AT 72 23 SHEFIELD AVENUE AND I WANNA DEFER MY TIME TO MARGARET LEVITT WHO IS RIGHT BEHIND ME.

I'M JANICE FIELD.

I LIVE AT 70 60 WASHBROOK TERRACE, PARKSIDE VILLAGE, AND I DEFER MY TIME TO MARGARET LEVIT.

MY NAME IS PENNY HEDRICK 74 81 BRAND DISTANCE STREET IN PARKSIDE VILLAGE AND I DEFER TO MARGARET L.

YOU MUST BE MISLED.

IF THIS WERE A PROJECT YOU WERE EXCITED ABOUT AND TRULY FELT WAS GOOD FOR THE COUNTY, INFORMATION WOULD BE FREE FLOWING.

I AM MARGARET.

I FIGURED THAT OUT FOR ME.

70 36 BEN HALL CIRCLE THIS EVENING IS A PIVOTAL MOMENT FOR OUR COUNTY.

TONIGHT'S OUTCOME WILL HAVE A LASTING LEGACY ON GLAND AND ON FUTURE GENERATIONS AND WILL AFFECT SURROUNDING LOCALITIES AS WELL.

IT'S A MOMENT OF TRUTH.

TRUTH IS NOT JUST ABOUT PRESENTING CERTAIN FACTS.

IT'S ABOUT OPENNESS AND TRANSPARENCY, NOT OMITTING INFORMATION THAT MAY BE COUNTER TO THE RESULT FOR WHICH YOU ARE ADVOCATING SO THAT ALL OF US WHO WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS PROPOSAL CAN EVALUATE ITS EFFECTS AND FORMULATE OUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT OF OUR COUNTY.

HOWEVER, IN THIS INSTANCE, IT IS NOT WHAT HAS BEEN DELIVERED.

PLANNING COMMISSION FOLLOW UP BY STAFF INDICATES THEY'VE BEEN MEETING WITH VDOT AND OTHER AUTHORITIES TO DISCUSS TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION CONSIDERATIONS RELATED TO THIS PROJECT.

YET WHEN I REQUESTED DOCUMENTATION RELATED TO TRAFFIC AND TRANSPORTATION, I WAS REFERRED BACK TO THE STAFF REPORT WITH NO UPDATES PROVIDED THE NEXT POINT.

STATES WORKED WITH APPLICANT TO MOVE THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO AN EARLIER DATE TO ADDRESS CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC.

THIS IGNORES RESIDENTS EXPRESS CONCERNS THAT ALL INFRASTRUCTURE BE RESOLVED PRIOR TO APPROVING SUCH A MASSIVE PLAN.

THE THIRD BULLET POINT RELATES TO EMS AND I WANNA BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT ON PACKET PAGE 1 51, REVIEWED BY COUNTY AGENCIES AND DEPARTMENTS, FIRE AND RESCUE IS NOTED AS HAVING NO COMMENT AT THIS TIME WHILE PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOTED AS HAVING NO COMMENT AT ALL THOUGH, WHEN STEVE LEVIT REACHED OUT TO CHIEF FERGUSON AND SHERIFF CREASY, THEY BOTH STATED THAT INCREASED RESPONSE TIMES TO THIS QUADRANT OF THE COUNTY WOULD BE A CONCERN IF THIS PROJECT WERE APPROVED.

NOW IT SEEMS THE FIRE CHIEF AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATION ARE LOOKING INTO THE PROCESS OF INCREASING AUTOMATIC MUTUAL AID WITH HANOVER.

I FIND THIS INTERESTING AS REGARDING EAGLE'S P TRACK ROAD APPLICATION AND OUR OBJECTION TO HAVING AL TOBE STREET CONNECT TO THIS PARCEL.

JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CITED RESPONSE TIMES BY EMS TO DEFEND THE NEED FOR THIS CONNECTION JUST AS THEY DID WITH PARKSIDE VILLAGE, SECTION FOUR IN THE ASHLAND ROAD CONNECTION.

FURTHERMORE, SHE STATED AND I QUOTE, THE COUNTY HAS A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH HENRICO AND HANOVER AND DOES PROVIDE MUTUAL AID WITH THESE COUNTIES.

HOWEVER, IT IS BAD PRACTICE TO BE RELYING ON THE SERVICES OF ANOTHER COUNTY.

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS INCONSISTENT WITH THEIR STANCES AS IT RELATES TO PROJECT ROCKY WHERE IT SEEMS BAD PRACTICE IS NOW ACCEPTABLE.

NEXT STAFF HAS REQUESTED A NOISE ANALYSIS FROM THE APPLICANT AND BASED ON APPLICANT STUDIES FOR SIMILAR FACILITIES, THE UNMITIGATED NOISE LEVEL OF FACILITY IS PROJECTED TO RANGE FROM 50 TO 50 ACCESSIBLES COMPARABLE TO THE NOISE OF AN AIR CONDITIONER.

INTERESTING.

THE COUNTY WOULD RELY ON A STUDY SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT AND ACCEPT THAT UNMITIGATED NOISE GENERATED FROM THIS FACILITY WOULD BE NO LOUDER THAN AN AIR CONDITIONER.

I'M NO EXPERT, BUT SOMETHING IS BLATANTLY AMISS WITH THESE FINDINGS.

FINALLY, LIGHT POLLUTION CONCERNS WILL BE ADDRESSED BY THE COUNTY'S DARK SKY LIGHTING ORDINANCE.

IF THEY COMPLY WITH THIS ORDINANCE, IT WILL NOT BE THE LIGHT THAT KEEPS US UP AT NIGHT, JUST THE NOISE.

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RATHER, INFORMATION HAS BEEN WITHHELD FORCING US TO FILE A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST IN ORDER TO DETER, TO DETERMINE WHAT ENTITY IS ACTUALLY BEHIND THIS FULFILLMENT CENTER, ONLY TO HAVE THIS REQUEST DENIED.

WHILE OTHER LOCALITIES MAY OPERATE IN A SHROUD OF SECRECY, I FOR ONE STRONGLY FEEL CITIZENS OF GLAND DESERVE BETTER.

NEVERTHELESS, THOUGH WE HAVE EXPERIENCED STONEWALLING AND DOUBLE SPEAK IN OUR ATTEMPT TO GAIN INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROJECT, WE HAVE CONDUCTED OUR OWN DUE DILIGENCE.

WHAT YOU HEAR TONIGHT SHOULD BE EYEOPENING AS TO WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT BRING.

WITHOUT KNOWING THE IDENTITY OF THE APPLICANT, I'M ABLE TO CONCLUDE THAT THIS ENTITY WILL NOT BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

THEY HAVE DISRESPECTED US, YOUR CONSTITUENTS IN NOT REVEALING THEIR IDENTITY.

IT IS NOT REASONABLE TO EXPECT IF THIS IS APPROVED, THAT THEY WILL HONOR ANY OF THE POINTS THEY ARE TOUTING IN AN EFFORT TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

NONE OF WHICH ARE BINDING.

BY THE WAY, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, MR. CONLAN ACTUALLY CONCEDED THE BUSINESS MODEL COULD CHANGE BASED ON MARKET CONDITIONS AND THE PROTOTYPE IS CONSTANTLY BEING REVISED FOR EFFICIENCY.

OUR RESEARCH HAS SHOWN LOCALITIES THAT APPROVE SIMILAR PROJECTS THINKING IT WOULD BE A GOLDEN EGG, HAVE REGRETS AND ARE NOW UNABLE TO PUT PANDORA BACK IN THE BOX.

YOU'VE JUST HEARD THE ENVIRONMENTAL RAMIFICATIONS AND RESULTING HEALTH IMPLICATIONS.

ACCORDING TO DR.

PETER BUCKMAN, A CARDIOVASCULAR AND THORACIC SURGEON WITH BON COURSE.

THE PRINCIPAL CONCERN WITH A PROJECT IS WITH THE ANTICIPATED GREATLY INCREASED VEHICULAR POLLUTION GIVEN THE WELL-ESTABLISHED ADVERSE HEALTH EFFECTS OF AUTOMOBILE POLLUTION AND ESPECIALLY DIESEL TRUCK EMISSIONS.

THIS PROJECT IMPOSES A REAL AND IMMINENT HEALTH DANGER TO RESIDENTS LIVING ALONG ASHLAND ROAD, ESPECIALLY SINCE TRUCK TRAFFIC IS PROJECTED TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE CORRELATION BE BETWEEN HIGH LEVELS OF EXHAUST FUMES AND INCREASED INCIDENTS OF ASTHMA AND CHILDREN, LUNG CANCER AND ADULTS AND ADVERSE CARDIOVASCULAR EVENTS AND OLDER INDIVIDUALS AT RISK IS WELL ESTABLISHED.

THE VOLUME OF PARTICULATE CARBON TO WHICH RESIDENTS IN THE AREA OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL BE EXPOSED FOR WHICH NO MITIGATION STRATEGIES HAVE BEEN ENUMERATED, WILL TRANSLATE INTO INCREASED HEALTH PROBLEMS FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE ELDERLY POPULATION AS WELL AS FOR YOUNGER RESIDENTS.

IT IS UNCONSCIONABLE TO EXPOSE LOCAL RESIDENTS TO INCREASE POLLUTION AND INCREASE RISK OF DISEASES WITHOUT A CAREFUL ANALYSIS TO DEFINE THE HEALTH IMPACT OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.

TO SEE AIR POISON FOR ILL DEFINED FINANCIAL BENEFITS CANNOT BE DEFENDED UNLESS THE WELL FOUNDED CRITICISMS OF THE ROCKY PROJECT CAN BE ADDRESSED AND EFFECTIVE MITIGATION STRATEGIES IMPLEMENTED.

IT IS MY OPINION THE ASHLAND ROAD PROJECT SHOULD NOT PROCEED WELL.

WELL YOU MAY CITE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO DEFEND THE APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.

IT WOULD BE SHORTSIGHTED AND IRRESPONSIBLE TO OVERLOOK THE CATASTROPHIC IMPLICATIONS OF THIS PROPOSED FULFILLMENT CENTER.

CONSIDER THE LEGACY YOU WILL BE LEAVING AS YOU CAST YOUR VOTE THIS EVENING.

IN MY OPINION, IT COMES DOWN TO ECONOMICS VERSUS HEALTH.

THANK YOU, MRS. LEVIT.

TAKE IN AN AREA OF A 10 MILE RADIUS, THERE WILL BE MANY CHILDREN WITH FUTURE PLANS FOR BUILDING AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN GLAND COUNTY.

MY NAME IS CAROL CUNNINGHAM AND I RESIDE AT 72 98 INGHAM COURT.

AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY BY MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, TRAFFIC AND THE ABILITY FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES TO REACH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS MY INITIAL CONCERN.

AS I BEGAN TO READ AND RESEARCH VARIOUS ARTICLES REGARDING A FACILITY OF THIS NATURE, THE CONCEPT OF POLLUTION, SPECIFICALLY AIR POLLUTION BECAME A RECURRING THEME.

I WAS PARTICULARLY SHOCKED BY THE EFFECTS OF AIR POLLUTION ON COGNITIVE DEVELOPMENT IN CHILDREN.

THIS PEAKED MY INTEREST AS A RETIRED ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TEACHER OF MORE THAN 30 YEARS.

HAVING WORKED WITH SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN, I WAS APPALLED TO READ ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF AIR POLLUTION ON STUDENTS' ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE AND ABILITY TO LEARN.

POOR AIR QUALITY CAUSED BY AIR POLLUTION CAN CAUSE ILLNESSES SUCH AS PNEUMONIA AND ASTHMA, SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN.

WHEN ILLNESS STRIKES STUDENTS MISS SCHOOL, WHICH OBVIOUSLY HAS A DIRECT IMPACT ON LEARNING.

CHILDREN NEED TO BE IN THE CLASSROOM FEELING WELL TO BE AT THEIR BEST IN ORDER TO MEET THEIR GREATEST POTENTIAL.

I ALSO READ ABOUT OTHER STUDIES THAT HAVE SHOWN A DIRECT CORRELATION BETWEEN AIR POLLUTION AND ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE.

AIR POLLUTANTS CAN BE HARMFUL TO YOUNG CHILDREN WHERE KIDS OPPOSED TO GREATER LEVELS OF AIR POLLUTANTS SCORED WORSE ON MEMORY TESTS AND VERBAL AND NONVERBAL IQ SCORES WERE LOWER.

I DO NOT LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH CHILDREN.

HOWEVER, WHEN YOU

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IT WILL FALL WELL WITHIN THE 10 MILE RADIUS AS WELL.

THIS IS EXTREMELY CONCERNING.

GIVING ALL OF THIS RE RESEARCH AND THE EFFECT OF AIR POLLUTION ON LEARNING EDUCATION TODAY HAS SO MANY CHALLENGES.

I PONDER WHY WOULD WE EVEN BEGIN TO CONSIDER ADDING ANOTHER LAYER THAT COULD POSSIBLY AFFECT THE SUCCESS OF STUDENTS IN OUR SCHOOLS BY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE AVOIDED.

WITH THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ALONE PASSING THROUGH THIS AREA OF GLAND BEING MAGNIFIED BY THIS PLAN FULFILLMENT CENTER, AIR QUALITY WILL DIMINISH EXPONENTIALLY.

MANY STUDENTS HAVE SHOWN THAT THE PARTICULATE MATTER, MANY STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THE PARTICULATE MATTER FROM THESE DIESEL EXHAUST ADVERSELY AFFECTS LEARNING AND SIMPLY SLOWS KIDS DOWN.

AS AN EDUCATOR, THIS IS VERY DISHEARTENING AND WORRISOME.

CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE.

WE NEED TO WORK TO PROTECT THEM AS BEST WE CAN AND PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT TO ENABLE THEM TO GROW AND LEARN AND BE SUCCESSFUL, HEALTHY MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT PROJECT ROCKY WILL ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

THANK YOU MISS COMING IN.

MY NAME IS TOM OWEN, MY WIFE AND I LIVE AT 72 94 INGHAM COURT.

I ALMOST FORGOT, MY WIFE IS A SEVERE ASTHMATIC AND I THINK SHE WAS A PRACTICE ADMINISTRATOR BEFORE SHE RETIRED LAST YEAR FOR THE GOOD DOCTOR WHO JUST SPOKE BEFORE US.

HER NAME IS SANDY OWEN, AND WHEN I MET HER 37 YEARS AGO, TWO WEEKS LATER, SHE WAS IN A HOSPITAL WITH A SEVERE ASTHMA ATTACK THAT KEPT HER THERE FOR THREE WEEKS.

IN CASE NONE OF YOU HAVE EVER LIVED WITH A SPOUSE WHO HAS SEVERE ASTHMA.

IN THE CASE OF MY WIFE, WHEN SHE COUGHS, IT SOUNDS LIKE A SEVERE DEATH RATTLING, BRONCHIAL SPASM.

YOU DON'T WANT TO BE AWAY VERY FAR FROM A PERSON LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THEY SEEK THE RIGHT MEDICAL INTENTION IMMEDIATELY.

SO SHE LEARNED THAT I GOT INVOLVED WITH THIS MATTER.

IN FACT, I THINK I MIGHT HAVE, UH, BROUGHT SOME OF THIS TO STEVE'S ATTENTION A FEW WEEKS, FEW DAYS AGO, STUMBLED ACROSS A READING, AND THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.

I'M NOT AN ENVIRONMENTALIST.

I GENERALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

I LIKE THE SKY AT NIGHT, BUT I DO ENJOY MY WIFE BEING AROUND.

I DO ENJOY OUR CHILDREN BEING AROUND.

I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY, REALLY HAVE NOT CONSIDERED.

AND WE COULD BE GOING DOWN FROM A, UH, MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE.

FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY PERSPECTIVE IS THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR THE WRONG RABBIT HOLE.

SO WITH THAT IN MIND, IN CONSIDER CONSIDERING THE SEVERITY OF THE POTENTIAL ILLNESSES THAT COULD BE BROUGHT ON BY THIS PROJECT OVER TIME, YOU ALL WILL BE GONE BY THEN.

MAYBE I WILL BE TOO.

BUT SHOULD YOU BE INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE MEDICAL WELLBEING OF YOUR SPOUSE OR LOVED ONES, WHERE WOULD YOU BE WITH THAT? YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT THINKING MR. RON.

I WON'T SEE IT AND I'M HAVING A TECHNICAL ERROR.

STREET, WHICH IS ALREADY KIND OF BUSY.

MY NAME'S MARIA OWENS.

I'M AT 6 21 FED LANE IN MANNEQUIN'S HABIT.

I WANT YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS WHOLE PROPOSAL.

UM, ASHLAND ROAD FREQUENTLY HAS RUTS IN THE ROADWAY THAT NEED REPAIRED FROM THE ASPHALT TRUCK, I MEAN FROM THE QUARRY TRUCKS GOING UP AND DOWN.

SO NOW THERE'S GONNA BE 500 MORE TRUCKS COMING IN, 500 MORE TRUCKS GOING OUT, 1000 CARS COMING IN, 1000 CARS GOING OUT AND TRIPLE THAT FOR OCTOBER TO JANUARY FOR THE CHRISTMAS RUSH.

SO I WAS WONDERING WHERE THE EXTRA 500 TO 800 CARS WILL GO, THAT WILL BE INVOLVED EVERY ONE THIRD OF THE END OF A YEAR, FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER.

SO ALL THE THESE, THESE FACILITY THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE EMPLOYEES HAVE TO LIVE SOMEWHERE.

THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA LIVE CLOSE TO THE FACILITY.

THIS WILL HIGHLY INCREASE THE TRAFFIC ON BROAD

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IT'LL PUT MORE KIDS INTO SCHOOLS, MORE REQUESTS FOR EMS AND ALL THAT IMPACTS GLAND.

UH, I WANT YOU TO GET THERI THE ROAD AND THE BRIDGE FIXED FIRST BEFORE YOU DO SOMETHING AS BIG AS PROJECT ROCKY.

AND SO DENY THIS REZONING AND C U P FOR NOW.

THANKS MS. OWENS.

MY NAME IS VAL VELARDI AND I LIVE AT 71 82 YARD STREET AND PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

OH MY GOSH, MY NAME IS JACKSON, NOT VELARDI.

IT'S MY MAIN NAME.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

I DIDN'T MEAN ANY DES DISRUPTION.

I REALLY DID.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT CAME FROM.

HEY, BUT HAVE EVERYONE IT DOWN.

IT'S WRITTEN DOWN.

JACKSON, CAN I START ALL OVER? .

SECONDS, COUNT, SECONDS MATTER.

UM, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS VAL JACKSON.

I LIVE AT 7 180 2 YARD STREET AND PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

AND I'M OPPOSED TO PRO PROJECT ROCKING.

MY MAIN AREA OF CONCERN IS EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIME TO OUR COMMUNITY.

DUE TO TRAFFIC CONCERNS WITH THIS PROJECT, I HAVE SPENT MY ENTIRE ADULT LIFE CAREER IN PURSUIT OF PUBLIC SAFETY ALMOST OVER 30 YEARS.

I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THAT SECONDS MATTER SECONDS COUNT WHEN ARRIVING TO AN EMERGENCY SCENE BY POLICE, FIRE, RESCUE.

I WANT YOU TO IMAGINE THE UNIMAGINABLE, WHICH I HAVE SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT MY 30 YEAR CAREER.

AS A FIRST RESPONDER, YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE OR YOUR LOVED ONE ISN'T EXPERIENCING A CATASTROPHIC MEDICAL EMERGENCY OR YOUR HOUSE IS BEING BROKEN INTO AND WE'RE PATIENTLY FRANTICALLY WAITING EMERGENCY RESPONSE ONLY TO FIND THEM THE MIDDLE OF A TRAFFIC GRIDLOCK.

YOUR HOUSE BURNS, YOUR LOVED ONE DIES, AND YOUR HOME IS BREACHED.

SECONDS DO MATTER.

SECONDS COUNT.

CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AND I'M NOT GONNA BEAT A DEAD HORSE HERE.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE PROJECT RA ROCKY SHOULD BE APPROVED.

IT'S UNIMAGINABLE NOT TO HAVE THAT IN PLACE.

I THINK WE ALL AGREE ECONOMIC GROWTH IS IMPORTANT FOR COMMUNITY, BUT WHAT AT WHAT COST? IS IT WORTH JEOPARDIZING ONE'S LIFE OR PROPERTY? I WATCHED THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING A FEW WEEKS BACK AND I LISTENED TO ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS BRAVELY SHARED THAT THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY SUFFERED A STROKE.

HOWEVER, SHOULD THIS PROJECT BE APPROVED, IF HE HAD ANOTHER STROKE, HE NEEDS TO HAVE IT BETWEEN 12:00 AM AND 8:00 AM WE ALL LEFT.

IT'S KIND OF FUNNY BECAUSE AT THAT POINT WE WERE TOLD THAT'S GONNA BE THE LULL AND TRAFFIC ON ASHLAND ROAD, BUT NOT A TRUE STATEMENT HAS BEEN SPOKEN.

WE KEEP HEARING, RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT MOST ROAD TRAFFIC WILL BE COMING OFF AND MERGING ON A 64.

AND I KNOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED THIS EVENING, BUT IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL OCCUR.

I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE PERSONALLY.

WE ALL AVOID TRAFFIC JAMS AT ALL RESPONSE.

OUR GPS EVEN REROUTES US, RIGHT? IT TELLS US TO GO ANOTHER DIRECTION.

THINK OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE LEAVING THE DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND IT'S, THEY PULL OUT THEIR GPS AND IT SAYS, NOPE, GO DOWN ASHLAND ROAD TOWARDS PONCY TRACK.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, POSSIBLY MOVING INTO OUR TRAVELING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY.

SECONDS MATTER AND SECONDS COUNT.

I WANNA BELIEVE THAT MOST DRIVERS WOULD YIELD TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES, BUT TRYING TO YIELD ON A TWO-WAY ROAD WITH HEAVY TRAFFIC IS A VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE.

THIS IS A GRIDLOCK.

AGAIN, SECONDS MATTER AND SECONDS COUNT.

THE GALLERIES, NO DISRESPECT.

I'M NOT GONNA ASK FOR APPLAUSE, BUT I CAN ASK FOR A HAND RAISING WITH THAT.

NO.

SO WITHOUT RAISING YOUR HAND, THE GALLERY IS FULL THIS EVENING AND I'M GONNA GUESSTIMATE THAT 98.72% OF THE PEOPLE IN HERE IN AN OPPOSITION, A PROJECT RUNWAY PROJECT RUNWAY PROJECT.

ROCKY LORD MS. JACKSON, I NEED YOU TO WRAP IT UP.

I'M GOING TO WRAP IT UP RIGHT NOW.

IT'S THEIR SECONDS THAT MATTER.

IT'S THEIR SECONDS THAT COUNT.

PLEASE VOTE NA TO PROJECT ROCKY.

OUR SECONDS ARE LITERALLY IN YOUR HANDS.

WHEN OUR SECONDS ARE IN YOUR HANDS, CAN WE COUNT ON YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MS. JACKSON.

JACKSON.

YOU TOO.

SO HIT THE GREEN BUTTON.

NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

NO, I, I'M GOOD.

OF INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO, UH, MY NAME IS BILL HOWARD.

I LIVE AT 71 87 YEAR STREET.

SO BY NOW YOU FIGURED THE ENTIRE YEAR STREET HAS COME TO VISIT YOU.

UM, YOU KNOW, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THE COUNTY'S GROWTH EFFORTS, UH, AND I'VE REVIEWED THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY, VERY WELL DONE.

BUT THERE'S PARTICULAR A COMMENT IN THERE THAT I THINK IS RELEVANT TO THIS DISCUSSION.

GROWTH SHOULD BE PLANNED AND COORDINATED TO CREATE AN OVERALL BALANCE AMONG VARIOUS USES AND SHOULD GENERALLY CONSIST CONSIST OF INTERCONNECTED HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT PHASED WITH PROVISION

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SO I THINK BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERNS IN THE COMMUNITIES WHETHER THIS IS HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND IS IT PHASED WITH INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

PLEASED TO HEAR THAT WE WERE LISTENED TO IN THE LAST MEETING AND SOME OF THE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS THAT ARE, ARE BEING ADDRESSED.

BUT I WOULD ALSO ECHO THAT, UH, THAT BURDEN HAND TO IN THE BUSH KIND OF SITUATION.

AND, AND I THINK THERE IS A RESPONSIBILITY, UH, AMONGST ALL OF US THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T PUT OURSELVES IN A BAD SITUATION IN THE 2040 MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

PAGE NINE, UNDER LEVEL OF SERVICE, ONE OF THE SPECIFIC POINTS SAYS, AS REDEVELOPMENT IN NEW DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, AVOID DEGRADATION OF THE NETWORK BELOW LEVEL OF SERVICE C AND ENSURE IMPROVEMENTS YIELD A LEVEL OF SERVICE C OR BETTER.

AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS ONCE A FOUR-LANE BRIDGE EXISTS AND A FOUR-LANE DDI EXISTS WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, UH, WE, WE WILL MAYBE ACTUALLY APPROACH THAT.

BUT UNTIL THEN AND THOSE THAT WON'T HAPPEN.

AND I ONE OTHER POINT THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED TODAY, BUT JUST AS A REMINDER, EVERYBODY HERE DOESN'T GET TO DRIVE ACTUAL ROAD EVERY DAY.

THAT HALF MILE STRETCH FROM THE TWO LANES THAT ARE COMING OUT, GOING 2 64 INTO TWO LANES THAT ARE TURNING FROM NORTHBOUND INTO THE FACILITY, WE ON A ONELAN ROAD.

SO IMAGINE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOU'VE GOT TWO LANES OR TRACTOR TRAILERS COMING OUT AND DRIVING A HALF MILE TO GET TO A BRIDGE.

UH, IT WILL BE TOTAL GRIDLOCK WHATEVER HOUR OF THE DAY OR NIGHT THAT IS.

AND THE ONLY OTHER POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COMMENT MADE UNDER THE EXISTING LAND USE, UM, SECTION IN PAGE 1 42 OF YOUR PACKET THAT TALKS ABOUT THE AREA IMMEDIATELY, UH, SURROUNDING THIS PROPOSED FACILITY, BUT MAKES NO MENTION OF PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

IT MAKES NO MENTION OF THE NEW MARK HILL EAGLE, UH, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED FOR, UM, ASHLYN ROAD JUST SOUTH OF, OF PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

AND IT MAKES NO MENTION OF THE CROSS CREEK NURSERY THAT IS STILL IN DEVELOPMENT, BUT WILL OBVIOUSLY ATTRACT A LOT OF PEOPLE.

NOR DOES IT MAKE ANY MENTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS PLANNED FOR SOUTH ON POY TRACK.

SO BY THE TIME THIS FACILITY GETS BUILT, THE STUDIES THAT HAVE, HAVE BEEN DONE ARE ALREADY OUTDATED.

SO MY REQUEST IS THAT YOU DENY OR DEFER THIS, UH, PROPOSAL UNTIL WE CAN GET FACTUAL INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WILL LOOK LIKE.

THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS EVENING.

THANK YOU MR. HOWARD.

THANK YOU, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

I'M STEVEN GALLAGHER, DEVELOPMENT MANAGER WITH J LISK, 1851 BENNINGTON ROAD IN ROCKVILLE.

UM, I'VE GOT COPIES OF AN EMAIL AND LETTER, UM, THAT I'LL DISTRIBUTE TO YOU.

UH, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'LL JUST READ IN, UH, TO THE RECORD THE, THE LETTER THAT WAS SENT OUT TO YOU ALL, UM, THIS AFTERNOON.

IT'S VERY DUPLICATIVE OF THE EMAIL THAT WAS SENT BACK IN MAY.

UM, IN, IN SHORT, WE'RE WRITING, UH, THIS LETTER IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT FOR BOTH THE REZONING CASE AND THE CONDITIONAL USE CASE.

UM, JAY LOUISVILLE BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED USE THAT WILL BE ACHIEVED THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THESE CASES, A MIDPOINT DISTRIBUTION FCI, UH, FACILITY ISN'T FITTING WITH PLAN USES ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND WILL CREATE APPRECIABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH AND VALUE FOR THE COUNTY.

AS SUCH, WE HAVE NO OBJECTION TO ITS LOCATION ON THE ROUTE 6 23 CORRIDOR.

AS PART OF THE HEARINGS, UH, RELATED TO THESE CASES, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROUTE 6 23 CORRIDOR, INCLUDING A DIVERGENT, DIVERGENT DIAMOND INTERCHANGE OR DDI, HAVE BECOME A TOPIC OF INTEREST FOR ALL INVOLVED.

WHILE THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE WARRANTED TO ADDRESS THE MANY TRAFFIC CONCERNS, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT BENNINGTON ROAD NOT BE OVERLOOKED AS THE DESIGN PARAMETERS AND ULTIMATELY IMPLEMENTATION COME FRUITION.

CURRENTLY, BENNINGTON ROAD IS UNRESTRICTED AT ITS INTERFACE WITH ROUTE 6 23.

THIS ALLOWS DEPARTING VEHICLES TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN TO THE SOUTH FOR IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO THE INTERSTATE.

AND OBVIOUS POINT SOUTH OF THE INTERSTATE VEHICLES COMING FROM THE NORTH ARE ALSO ABLE TO MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN ONTO BENNINGTON ROAD.

BOTH ASPECTS ARE TREMENDOUSLY IMPORTANT TO CURRENT AND FUTURE BUSINESS OPERATIONS AND NEED TO BE PRESERVED IN THE FINAL OVERALL DESIGN.

IT HAS BEEN SHARED WITH US THAT THE DDIS PREVIOUSLY DESIGNED TWO LANES FOR BUDGET STUDIES AND FUNDING ACQUISITION IS NOT ACQUI ADEQUATE, UH, DUE TO REVISITING THE CAPACITY AND QUEUING ISSUES

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AS SUCH, A FOUR-LANE DDI IS NOW BEING REQUIRED AND AS A RESULT, A DIVIDED MEDIAN EXTENDING TO THE NORTH FOR SUCH A DISTANCE IS TO REQUIRE BENNINGTON ROAD TO BECOME A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT.

ONLY SCENARIO SHOULD THIS HAPPEN, THERE WILL BE SEVERAL UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES RESULTING FROM THIS RECONFIGURATION.

AS MENTIONED ABOVE, NO VEHICLE LEAVING COULD THEN HEAD SOUTH TOWARDS THE INTERSTATE, ESSENTIALLY CUTTING OFF DIRECT, DIRECT ACCESS TO THE INTERSTATE, AND NO VEHICLE ARRIVING FROM THE NORTH CAN ACCESS BENNINGTON ROAD.

AS A RESULT, ALL VEHICLES LEAVING WILL NOW HAVE TO TRAVEL NORTH AND EAST TO REACH THE INTERSTATE.

THIS ROUTE, A PERPETUAL DETOUR OF SORTS ESSENTIALLY REQUIRES THAT DUMP TRUCKS, HEAVY EQUIPMENT HAULERS IN THE LIKE THEN HEAD EAST AND SOUTH ALONG KNUCKLES ROAD TO REACH THE INTERSTATE.

THIS WILL DIRECT HEAVY EQUIPMENT TRAFFIC BY K12, I HOPE I SAID THAT RIGHT, K12 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THEN THROUGH RESIDENTIAL PORTIONS OF WINDHAM AND TO THE EAST BEFORE CO-MINGLING WITH TRAFFIC THROUGH RETAIL AREAS ON THEIR WAY TO 2 95.

IT WILL ALSO REQUIRE THE SAME TYPE OF TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE NORTH TO PROCEED SOUTH THROUGH THE DDI TO SOME UNKNOWN POINT, TURN AROUND, COME BACK HEADING NORTH, AND THEN MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN INTO BENNINGTON ROAD.

OUR COMPANY HAS MANY OBLIGATIONS THROUGH AGREEMENTS WITH SEVERAL LOCALITIES IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA, THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, AND THE LIKE, WHICH NECESSITATES QUICK ACCESS TO THE INTERSTATE AND POINTS SOUTH WHEN THOSE NEEDS ARRIVE TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY SUPPORT FOR ROAD CLEARING, STORM DEBRIS REMOVAL, WINTER STORM REMOVAL OPERATIONS, AND OTHER TIME CRITICAL ACTIVITIES.

THIS ACCESS HAS BEEN UNFETTERED NOT ONLY FOR US, BUT FOR OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

AND IT'S OUR SINCERE HOPE THAT IT CAN BE MAINTAINED DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS, ALLOWING FOR OUR PARTNERS TO RECEIVE THE UNINTERRUPTED LEVEL OF SERVICE AND TIMELY RESPONSE THEY'VE BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO.

AGAIN, LEE FIELD IS IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE APPLICANT'S PROJECT AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE GLAND COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND ZONING GLAND COUNTY TRANSPORTATION AND ROADS DEPARTMENT, VDOT PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS INCORPORATE THE PRESERVATION OF BENNINGTON ROADS FULL AND UNRESTRICTED ACCESS ONTO ROUTE 23 INTO ALL DISCUSSIONS GOING FORWARD RELATED TO THE OVERALL REDESIGN OF THE CORRIDOR.

WE STAND READY TO ASSIST AND OFFER ANY INPUTS RELATING TO THIS REQUEST AS PLANNING AND DESIGN CONTINUES TO EVOLVE.

INVESTIGATION DONE INTO THAT ASPECT OF IT.

THANK YOU MR. GALLER.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I'M PAUL BURLE AND MY WIFE AND I LIVE AT 2368 TWIN CREEKS LANE, RIGHT DOWN HERE OFF OF MAIDEN'S ROAD.

I USED TO LIVE OFF OF MANNEQUIN ROAD, UM, AND I'M ALSO A 15 YEAR MEMBER OF GOLAND VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE.

AND I RAN OUT OF CENTERVILLE AND SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND FIRE AND RESCUE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.

WHEN I WAS RUNNING SOME 20 YEARS AGO, IT WAS NOT NEARLY AS BAD AS IT IS NOW, AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT IT'S GONNA BE IF PROJECT ROCKY GOES IN.

MY BIGGEST REASONS FOR SPEAKING TONIGHT IS THE TRAFFIC SITUATION AND MY DESIRE FOR THAT TO BE RESOLVED BEFORE PROJECT ROCKY GOES IN.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING'S GOING AND I CAN'T HARDLY SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA HOLD IT BACK, BUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE BEFORE IT HAPPENS OR I, I FORESEE SOME PRETTY TERRIBLE CONSEQUENCES.

MY PROPOSAL, WHICH IS PROBABLY TOO LATE, AND I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT UNTIL AFTER THE LAST MEETING, SO I DIDN'T SPEAK, WOULD BE FOR THERE TO BE SOME MORE RESEARCH DONE ABOUT AN ALTERNATIVE ROUTE, GETTING IN THERE SUCH AS ACQUISITION OF MAYBE MORE PROPERTY TO THE REAR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT SITE AND PUTTING A NEW INTERCHANGE IN ON 64.

IT SOUNDS LIKE AN EXPENSIVE PROPOSAL, BUT CONSIDERING THE FOUR LANE DDI THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN, ADDING ANOTHER BRIDGE, I DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE EXCEPT FOR ACTUALLY GETTING THE ROAD FROM THE BACK OF THAT PROPERTY TO 64.

UM, OF COURSE IT WOULD INVOLVE LAND ACQUISITION.

THAT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY AND THAT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY AND IT'S CERTAINLY THERE, RIGHT? FOR THE PEOPLE TO SAY, NO, WE DON'T WANT IT COMING THROUGH HERE.

BUT IF A DEDICATED INTERCHANGE WAS PUT IN FOR THAT PROJECT, SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD ACTUALLY INDUCE MAYBE A LITTLE MORE BUSINESS BECAUSE THERE'D CERTAINLY BE OTHER THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN IN THAT AREA IF THERE WAS THAT ACCESS.

AND MY MAIN PURPOSE OF SPEAKING WAS TO TRY TO PROMOTE THAT AND SEE IF THERE COULDN'T BE SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME

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AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

THANK YOU MS. SPARKLE, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

WEST VIRGINIA, VIRGINIA LINE.

HI, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME'S KIM DOD AND I LIVE AT 74 44 PARK VILLAGE BOULEVARD.

OF COURSE, EVERYBODY'S HERE FROM THERE.

IF YOU NOTICE, IT'S ONE OF THE ONLY DEVELOPMENTS ON THIS CORRIDOR.

SO HERE YOU HAVE THE LITTLE RANCH HOUSES DOWN THE ROAD THAT I'M SURE ARE NOT COMING OUT IN FULL FORCE BECAUSE THEIR VALUES JUST ARE GOING UP.

THAT'S COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE ONTO THE ROAD.

WELL, I HAVE A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.

I JUST MOVED HERE FROM WINCHESTER, FREDERICK COUNTY, VIRGINIA.

WE HAPPEN TO HAVE A ROCKY, AS A FAMOUS LAWYER IN WINCHESTER, VIRGINIA.

ONCE SAID, IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK, IT QUACKS LIKE A DUCK.

IT MUST BE A DUCK.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE NAME IS.

WE ALL, WE, WE HAD AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION THAT THAT FACILITY CAME AFTER A FLYING JAY TRUCK STOP.

THE FLYING JAKE TRUCK STOP CAME.

THE LAND WAS ALREADY ZONED.

WE HAD NO SAY IT WAS ZONED BEFORE A BUYER.

SO HERE THEY COME IN ON ALREADY FAILING BRIDGE.

WELL, THIS WAS ABOUT THE TIME VDOT WAS HAVING A LOT OF FINANCIAL ISSUES, RESTRUCTURING AND EVERYTHING.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS EXACTLY, I WAS GLAD THAT IT WAS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FAILING BRIDGE TO GET MOVED UP ON VDOT.

YOU HAVE TO, IF YOU'VE EVER SAT ON A FAILING BRIDGE WITH TRUCK STACKING ON BOTH WAYS WITH A CAR, IT'S NOT THE BEST SITUATION.

THEN YOU ADD THE HUMAN ELEMENTS OF YES, THEY'RE GONNA TURN LEFT.

NO, THEY DON'T FOLLOW EVERYTHING THAT IS PUT FORTH.

IF YOU BRING IN IT'S SNOWING, IT'S RAINING, IT HAPPENS TO BE DINNER TIME OR WHATEVER, YOU HAVE THAT ELEMENT COME IN.

SO WHAT HAPPENED IS IT GOT TO THE FAILING POINT.

THEY CAME IN AND AGAIN, THE CITIZENS SUFFERED BECAUSE YOU HAD TO PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN.

WELL, EVERYBODY KNOW GROWTH IS COMING.

SO MOST OF THE TIME WITH A LOT OF THESE COMES, YOU'VE GOT FOUR MORE PROPERTIES FOR SALE.

YOU'RE GONNA GET A TRUCK STOP, YOU'RE GONNA GET A VENDOR MORE, MORE WAREHOUSES AND ALL THAT STUFF.

AND YES, IT IS A GOOD SECTION.

I KNOW HOW VALUE VALUABLE IT IS TO BE NEXT TO AN INTERSTATE.

WE WERE, I WAS 1.8 MILES AS A CROW, FLIES TO THIS WHOLE INTERSTATE, WHICH WAS INTERSECTION ON 81, FIRST EXIT GOING IN, OR LAST EXIT GOING OUT.

IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL SITUATION.

EVERYTHING WAS LIKE LAID OUT.

NONE OF THAT HAPPENED.

THE FULFILLMENT ENDED UP HAVING CHRISTMAS, WHICH NOBODY THOUGHT OF.

ALL THE EXTRA THINGS, YOU KNOW, CAME IN, YOU'VE BROUGHT IN, YOU KNOW, ALL THIS.

BUT WE FINALLY GOT THE BRIDGE.

BUT HAD THEY PUT THE HORSE BEFORE, YOU KNOW, FIRST IT WOULD'VE BEEN PERFECT.

THEY WERE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

THEY CAME STRAIGHT OUT, STRAIGHT TO THE INTERSTATE FLYING J I WAS AT A VDOT MEETING FOR TOURISM AND I HAD A VDOT GENTLEMAN ASK ME, OH, AREN'T YOU GLAD THAT WHEN FLYING J WENT IN WHEN THEIR HEAD NORTH, THAT THEY DON'T CROSS OVER THE BRIDGE AND GET THEIR GAS OVER THERE? AND YOU LOOKED AT 'EM LIKE, WHAT PLANET DID YOU COME FROM? WHY ARE THEY GONNA GO TO WEST VIRGINIA WHEN THE TAXES ARE HIGHER? IT WAS JUST, ALL THAT STUFF IS GOOD ON PAPER, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO GET TO THE NITTY GRITTY.

AND IT, I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE, YOU'RE GONNA REGRET IT.

YOU'RE GONNA OPEN PANDORA'S BOX BECAUSE I KNOW OUR COUNTY DID, AND THE GOVERNOR LIKED THAT THE FLYING AND JAY TURNED FROM THE RED TO THE BLACK IN THE WEEK VIOLATED D E Q EVERY WEEK.

BUT AT LEAST BEFORE WE HAD EVERYTHING ELSE COMING, THERE WAS ALSO NO WATER IN SEWER OVER THERE.

THANK, BUT BEFORE EVERYTHING ELSE CAME, THE BRIDGE FINALLY GOT THERE.

SO PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO DEEP CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU MR. AND PUT IT OFF FOR A WHILE.

APPRECIATE IT.

HI, MY NAME IS MARSHA DASHER AND I WORK AT 72 80 INGHAM COURT, UM, ALSO PART OF PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

AND I WON'T REPEAT EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE HEARD SO FAR.

US WE MAY BE GETTING OUR SERVICES FROM HANOVER, WE MAY BE GETTING THEM FROM ENRICO BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET TO US.

YOU DO HAVE CONCERNS OVER THE TRAFFIC.

I DO HAVE CONCERNS OVER EMS, BUT I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT TWO YEARS AGO WE DID NOT WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO BE DIRECTLY LINKED TO ASHLAND ROAD.

THE REASON THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT THAT TIME APPROVED THAT IS BECAUSE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT ACCESS TO EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

NOW YOU'RE TELLING

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AND THAT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM FOR US BECAUSE IF HANOVER OR ENRICO HAS A CALL, THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GONNA GO FIRST TO THEIR OWN JURISDICTION.

AND THAT LITERALLY LEAVES US HANGING.

UM, NOISE.

UH, PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SOUND OF THE BUILDING.

IT'S NOT THE BUILDING THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THAT NOISE.

IT'S GOING TO BE THE TRUCKS IDLING OUTSIDE.

AND THE BEEP BEEP BEEP THAT WE HEAR TODAY FROM THE QUARRIES AROUND US IN THE EARLY HOURS OF THE MORNING IS THOSE TRUCKS BACK UP IS EXACTLY WHAT RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA WILL BE HEARING FROM THOSE BUILDINGS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU MS. DASHER.

GOOD EVENINGS CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS WITH THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS STELLA CLA AND I LIVE AT 72 34 SHEFIELD AVENUE, PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

BEFORE YOU VOTE TONIGHT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TWO POINTS.

I NEED TO ASK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS GOOD FOR GOODLAND AS A COUNTY.

PLEASE DO NOT THINK WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE STATE, NOR WHAT IS IT THAT THE GOVERNOR WANTS, NOR WHAT IS IT THAT THE STATE OF VIRGINIA'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WANTS.

LET THE GOVERNOR WORRY ABOUT THAT.

YOUR JOB TONIGHT IS TO DO WHAT IS GOOD FOR GOODLAND.

AND THIS E-COMMERCE CENTER IS NOT GOOD FOR GOODLAND FOR MANY REASONS YOU HAVE ALREADY HEARD.

SECONDLY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU, WHEN YOU REVIEWED THE APPLICATION THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED, PLEASE DO NOT LOOK AT IT AT FACE VALUE.

DO NOT TRUST THE REPORTS.

I URGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE REPORTS THAT HOPEFULLY YOUR STAFF HAS VERIFIED AND PROVIDED YOU WITH THE RIGHT INFORMATION.

I HAVE RECEIVED CONFLICTING REPORTS.

SOME SAY VIDA HAS NOT FINISHED REVIEWING THE TRAFFIC STUDY, AND YET ONE OF YOU SAID, VIDA DOES NOT NEED TO VALIDATE THE TRAFFIC REPORTS.

REALLY, IF THEY DON'T, WELL, WHO IS, WHO IS, ARE YOU JUST GONNA BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED TO YOU IS TRUE? THAT IS MIND BOGGLING.

MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT.

IF YOU APPROVE THIS CENTER TONIGHT, YOU ARE GONNA REGRET IT.

THINK ABOUT POLLUTION, COGNITIVE DECLINE, PEOPLE WITH C O P D AND DON'T THINK YOU CAN ESCAPE THIS POLLUTION BECAUSE YOU ARE 10, 20 MILES FROM WHERE WE ARE.

WE'RE ABOUT A MILE.

FEEL SORRY FOR US, BUT DON'T THINK YOU CAN ESCAPE THIS.

SO IF YOU HAVE NOT MADE THE RIGHT DUE DILIGENCE FOR THIS REPORT, THEN I URGE YOU TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR US, YOUR TAXPAYERS.

AND IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE THE RIGHT DUE DILIGENCE, PLEASE DECLINE THIS PROPOSAL.

THEY COME INTO THE FACILITY AT THE ENTRANCE POINT.

THANK YOU MS. CLEARY.

I'M GLAD TO BE HERE.

I'M DUSTIN GRIFFY, 5 12 3 CHOPPED ROAD MANNEQUIN, SAING, OR AS IT'S SOON TO BE CALLED THE VILLAGE OF CENTERVILLE.

UM, I WAS GONNA DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT TO THE BOARD ABOUT THE LIGHTING AND MAYBE THE FACT THAT IT'S A 24 7 FACILITY OR THE FACT THAT THERE ARE FIRE NEEDS OR THE EXTRAORDINARY HEIGHT, 120 FOOT TALL BUILDING.

I'M LOOKING FOR THE NEXT ONE IN THE COUNTY.

I DON'T SEE IT.

UM, ALSO WAS LOOKING AT THE IDEA OF THE TRUCKS AND WHAT THEY PROVIDE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AIR QUALITY.

UM, I NOTED IN ONE OF THE AMAZON FACILITIES FULFILLMENT FACILITIES THAT THEY TELL THE TRUCKS TO TURN OFF THEIR ENGINES WHEN

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AND THE REAL THING IS, I'VE BEEN TO MANY TRUCK STOPS AND THE TRUCKERS SEEM TO BE LEAVING THEIR ENGINES ON.

THIS MUST BE SOME KIND OF AN INDICATION OF HOW MUCH IS GENERATED BY SUCH A FACILITY AS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

I THINK WE'VE COME A BRIDGE TOO FAR, NOT ADDRESSING THE IDEA OF THE HIGHWAYS BEING A DONE DEAL.

SO I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF TIME, BUT MY REAL POINT FOR STANDING UP HERE AND FEELING THAT OTHER PEOPLE HADN'T ADDRESSED ONE ISSUE.

I'M LOOKING AT THE GLAND GAZETTE FROM JULY THE 28TH, AND IT'S TALKING ABOUT THE VILLAGE OF CENTERVILLE.

MY GOODNESS, DAVID HILL SAYS, TRAVELING THROUGH GLAND CENTERVILLE AREA, YOU REALIZE THAT YOU'VE ENTERED SOMETHING THAT'S A VERY SPECIAL PLACE GLAND'S, SMALL, JUST 2047 PEOPLE, BUT ECONOMICALLY PROSPEROUS OR MIGHTY, AS HE SAYS IN THIS EASTERN SECTOR.

HE GOES ON TO TALK ABOUT HOW HILL WAS HIRED TO COME UP WITH A VILLAGE, A FOCUSED PLAN FOR THE CENTERVILLE AREA.

AND IT'S THAT HE'S BEEN TAKEN BACK BY THE AREA'S, EXCEPTIONAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND DYNAMIC COMMERCIAL GROWTH, WHICH PROVIDES TWO THIRDS OF THE COUNTY'S JOBS.

HE'LL ALSO ADDED WHAT A WELCOME BREAK AS YOU ENTER CENTERVILLE AREA PROVIDED FOR THE BUSTLE FROM HENRICO SHORT PUMP.

HE ALSO FOCUSED ON MR. GRIFFIN A SIGN.

I NEED YOU TO WRAP IT UP.

I WILL.

ALL RIGHT FOLKS, WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED HERE.

AND THE POINT WAS THAT HE WANTS TO PUT A SIGN UP THAT SAYS, AS YOU ENTER CENTERVILLE, A BREATH OF FRESH AIR.

I BELIEVE MR. HILL NEEDS TO RETHINK HIS WHOLE PLAN IF YOU CONSIDER THIS FACILITY.

THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING.

I KNOW YOU'RE DYING TO HEAR THIS.

YOU BETCHA.

MY NAME IS CAROL ROOTER AND I LIVE AT 74 79 BRANDEN STREET.

GUESS WHERE PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

UH, THE MAIN REASON I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT IS THE, UH, PROBLEM OF TRAFFIC.

I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE.

EVERY TIME I GO DOWN ASHLAND ROAD, I FEEL LIKE I'M ON A SUICIDE MISSION.

THE TRAFFIC IS SO BAD AND THE TRUCKS DROPPING THESE HUGE ROCKS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

IT'S JUST AWFUL.

AND IF WE INCREASE THE TRAFFIC BY EVEN 5%, IT'S JUST GONNA BE IMPASSABLE.

YOU SIT AND YOU WAIT AT THE LIGHTS DOWN AT 64.

IT IT'S TERRIBLE.

AND THE, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THIS PROJECT, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT NOT BE IN PLACE WHEN THIS PLACE IS BUILT.

IF IT'S BUILT, HOPEFULLY NOT.

THE, UH, AS IT STANDS NOW WITHOUT THE FACILITY, WE HAVE TRAFFIC, THE BIG TRUCKS COMING THROUGH OUR STREETS IN PARKSIDE CUTTING THROUGH OVER TO PONCY TRACK BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC UP AT PONCY TRACK AND ASHLAND BACKS UP.

SO TO NOT WIDEN THAT INTERSECTION TO HAVE TURN LANES IS ABSOLUTELY CRAZY BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE JUST GOING TO SUFFER.

PROPERTY VALUES ARE AT RISK AND THE NOISE OF THESE TRUCKS COMING THROUGH, AND THEY DON'T COME THROUGH SLOWLY.

THEY BARREL DOWN OUR STREETS THAT ARE 25 MILES AN HOUR AND THESE GUYS MUST BE DOING 40.

AND THERE'S LOTS OF, UH, PEOPLE THAT HAVE GRANDCHILDREN IN VISITING PEOPLE WALKING THE STREETS AND LOTS OF PETS.

SO THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS AT RISK IF SOMETHING ELSE COMES IN LIKE THAT, UH, IS FAR AS, UH, THE,

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THE AIR BEING AFFECTED.

I THINK IT'S BEING AFFECTED NOW BECAUSE EVERY TIME I GO OUT TO MY DECK TO SIT ON MY FURNITURE OUT THERE, I HAVE TO TAKE A CLOTH WITH ME TO BRUSH OFF LITTLE MINUSCULE PIECES OF BLACK.

IT LOOKS LIKE COAL DUST.

I'M SURE IT'S NOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE GET BLASTED ALL THE TIME FROM THE QUARRY.

SO ALL WE NEED NOW IS, IS TO HAVE MORE TRUCKS COMING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY AND JUST DESTROYING THE WHOLE ATMOSPHERE.

I PERSONALLY LIKE TO SEE COWS OUT THERE IN THE FIELD, .

THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS I BOUGHT OUT AT PARKSIDE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA SCARE THE COWS AWAY AND THAT REALLY IS NOT, THAT'S GONNA MAKE ME REALLY MAD .

SO IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CONSIDER THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF GLAND COUNTY, WE'D REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, BEFORE YOU STAND UP, SIR, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF TOTAL NOW.

UM, SO I'M GONNA CALL A 10 MINUTE RECESS.

UM, WE'RE HEARING, UH, FROM ALL OF YOU, AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN GREAT.

IT'S BEEN A IT'S BEEN A FANTASTIC EXCHANGE AND WE, WE APPRECIATE HEARING YOUR IDEAS.

I WOULD JUST ASK, IF YOU SAY THAT YOU AGREE THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM, UM, IF, IF YOU HAVE NEW THINGS TO BRING UP THAT WOULD, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THOSE.

I THINK WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS OF TRAFFIC AND THE PRIOR, THE, THE, THE, UH, WHICH COMES FIRST, THE, THE BRIDGE OR THE FACILITY.

SO, UM, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU COME UP JUST TO RESPECT PEOPLE'S TIMES.

IT'S, IT'S, IT WILL BE GOING MUCH LATER AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TIME AS A BOARD TO BE ABLE TO, TO CONSIDER THIS AND DO DO OUR WORK TOO.

SO, UH, LET'S TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS AND WE WILL BE BACK HERE, UH, 10 AFTER BIG HAND ON THE TWO.

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GREAT.

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ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, READY TO RESUME.

THANKS FOR, UH, BEING BACK ON TIME.

UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, IF, IF YOU MAYBE WE'RE IN AN OVERFLOW ROOM, WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOLKS TO DO IS WHEN YOU'RE READY TO SPEAK, WE'VE GOT THIS FIRST ROW RESERVE.

JUST COME ON UP, SIT DOWN, AND, UH, PEOPLE WILL FILTER IN AND OUT.

THAT'S BEEN GOING, WORKING VERY, VERY WELL.

APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.

AND AGAIN, IF, IF YOU, IF YOU JUST WANNA STATE WHERE YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT, UM, THAT THAT IS PERFECTLY, UH, FINE.

AND IF YOU HAVE NEW POINTS, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR 'EM.

SO AT THAT, I WILL RE WE WILL COMMENCE WITH THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING RESUME COMMENCE.

START, GO FORWARD.

DO THIS ALL AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT, SIR, YOU WANNA KICK US OFF? GO AHEAD.

IF THIS CAN GO FORWARD AND, AND BE SUCCESSFUL.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

MY NAME IS GARY LONGNECKER.

I LIVE AT 51 BUCK RUN ROCKVILLE, VIRGINIA.

AND I WON'T BE REDUNDANT WITH ALL THE OTHER CONCERNS.

I AM, I AM NOT FOR THIS CONSTRUCTION TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC.

UH, AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT I'VE LEARNED TONIGHT.

THE LADY WHO OWNS A BUSINESS, THAT IS ONE CONCERN I HAVE IS THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE.

I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT WORK AT ATS WHO ARE BEHIND TRACTOR SUPPLY COMPANY.

IT'S AN INSPECTION COMPANY, AND THEY HAVE TO SEND THEIR PEOPLE OUT SOMEWHERE TO WORK FOR WHATEVER HOURS THAT CUSTOMER NEEDS THEM.

AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GO HOME AND THEY MAY HAVE TO TURN OVER A REPORT OR EQUIPMENT FOR SOMEONE ELSE THE NEXT DAY.

SO THE, THE WAIT, THE THE TIME FOR, UH, THE THE TIME TO WAIT.

I QUESTION SOME OF THE NUMBERS THAT WERE PRESENTED EARLIER.

UH, AND I, MY PROPERTY IS THE POINT OF MY PROPERTY WILL END UP BEING ABOUT SIX TO 800 FEET FROM THE POINT OF PROJECT ROCKY.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT WAS DECEIVING, WHAT COULDN'T THEY SAY? I, I, IS THAT A NAME FOR PROJECT ROCKY, WHERE THE, THE RACEWAY WAS ANOTHER NAME.

ANYWAY, I CAN HEAR, UH, THE INDUSTRIAL PARK VERY WELL.

I HEAR ENGINES, I HEAR MIDNIGHT BREWERY.

I SUSPECT THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE THEM

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I HOPE THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE.

I HOPE THAT ALL THE PRACTICALITIES ARE LOOKED AT.

DON'T BUILD AN ISLAND UNTIL YOU HAVE A BRIDGE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE, AND I'LL JUST SAY THAT I'M WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE.

UH, OUR COMMUNITY OF JOHNSONVILLE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT THOUGHT OF VERY MUCH, BUT WE'RE NOT THAT FAR AWAY.

THANK YOU MR. LONG AND NICKER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME'S DEAN BROKA.

I LIVE AT 7 0 3 9 BEN HALL CIRCLE IN PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

I'M A RETIRED BOARD CERTIFIED MEDICAL PHYSICIST.

I WAS DIRECTOR OF VCUS OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND SAFETY FOR 35 YEARS, COVERING THEIR RADIOLOGICAL, BIOLOGICAL AND CHEMICAL PREPAREDNESS, ALL FOR THE HOS, ALSO FOR THE HOSPITAL, AND WORKED WITH THE OTHER 15 HOSPITALS IN THE CENTER VIRGINIA AREA.

SO OVERSEEING A FEW MILLION PEOPLE'S HEALTH AND SAFETY.

I WOULD JUST LIKE STAND CONCURRENCE WITH MOST OF WHAT WAS SAID TODAY.

I THINK THERE ARE SERIOUS TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. I THINK THERE ARE VERY SERIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS. I THINK THAT WITHOUT FOR FURTHER FORETHOUGHT INTO WHAT'S GOING FORTH THROUGH, YOU ARE APPROACHING A VERY DANGEROUS SITUATION THAT WILL BE DIFFICULT TO BACK AWAY FROM WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY.

SO WITHOUT WASTING ANY ALL OF YOUR TIME, I WANNA STAND IN CONCURRENCE WITH WHAT WAS SAID BEFORE AND BE HAPPY IN THE FUTURE IF YOU WOULD LIKE MY ASSISTANCE IN ANY OF THIS TO HELP YOU.

APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU MR. BROGA.

MY NAME IS CAROL SUMMIT.

I LIVE AT 28 55 TURNER OAKS DRIVE GLAND.

I AM ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTY, SO DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HERE.

UM, THE PROPOSALS THAT ARE BEING PRESENTED, UM, DO NOT AGREE WITH THE VISION THAT I SEE FOR OUR COUNTY, AND I WOULD JUST APPRECIATE, UM, ALL THAT HAS BEEN SHARED AND DISCUSSED AND EVALUATED AND THANK YOU.

WHAT'S YOUR PREVIOUS SHEET OF MR. SUMMIT? MY NAME IS BETTY BOUSFIELD AND I LIVE AT 70 37 BEN HALL CIRCLE.

AND I OPPOSE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO, WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON.

I I REALLY HOPE YOU LOOK DEEP INTO YOUR SOULS BEFORE YOU DECIDE WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO HERE.

BECAUSE THE ROAD SITUATION, FIRST OF ALL, IS THE WORST PART.

THE ROADS ARE NOT SAFE.

IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE BICYCLISTS ON A SATURDAY DRIVING, RIDING DOWN PCY TRACK AND ASHLAND ROAD, SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET KILLED WITH THOSE BIG TRACTOR TRAILER TRUCKS.

SECOND OF ALL, YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA PUT A SIGN THAT'S GONNA SAY NO LEFT TURNS.

HOW MANY PEOPLE REALLY BELIEVE SIGNS? AND IF THEY HAVE A, IF THEY'RE ON A TIME CLOCK TO BE SOMEWHERE AND THEY KNOW A SHORTER ROUTE TO GO, THEY'RE GONNA COME ZIPPING.

RIGHT? DOWNLAND ROAD PASS, PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

AND GUESS WHO'S GONNA BE UP IN THE MORNING AT THREE, FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING? THE PEOPLE, THE 65 AND OLDER COMMUNITY TO ME WITH THE AIR QUALITY THAT THOSE TRUCKS ARE GOING TO GIVE US.

WE WALK FIVE, SIX O'CLOCK, WELL SIX, SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

WE TAKE WALKS, WE'RE GONNA SEE AND FEEL, AND WE'RE GONNA FEEL THAT AIR WHEN WE TAKE THESE WALKS.

AND WHAT IS THAT GONNA DO TO US? IT'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY CAUSE LUNG CANCER, HEART ATTACKS.

I DON'T KNOW.

WHAT DOES DIESEL FUEL DO TO YOUR HEALTH? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T WANNA FIND OUT.

SO PLEASE, I'M BEGGING YOU, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO FOR THE HEALTH OF EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY.

NOT JUST PARKSIDE VILLAGE, BUT THE CHILDREN, ESPECIALLY THE CHILDREN, OUR FUTURE.

PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

I OPPOSE IT.

THANK YOU, MISS ALFIELD.

MY NAME IS BAR BAILEY AND MY HUSBAND TOM AND I MOVED TO PARKSIDE VILLAGE ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO.

AND WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE COMMUNITY AND I'M IN TOTAL SUPPORT OF WHAT MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID TODAY.

AND I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING EXCEPT THAT I HOPE THAT YOU'LL DO THE RIGHT THING AND EITHER OPPOSE THIS PROPOSAL OR DEFER IT UNTIL WE'VE ADDRESSED THESE MAJOR ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED TONIGHT.

BECAUSE THAT WAS NOT IN THE STUDY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. BAILEY.

HELLO.

I, UM, I'M DEBORAH BOYLE BORKOWSKI.

I LIVE AT 71 95 YARD STREET IN PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

AND, UM, I LEARNED A LOT TONIGHT THAT I DIDN'T REALIZE, ESPECIALLY AROUND THE POLLUTION.

I HADN'T THOUGHT OF THAT.

UM, I HAVE THOUGHT A LOT ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OF ASHLAND ROSE AND PONCY TRACK

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AND TO THINK THAT 80% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA WORK THERE ARE GONNA COME 64 IS PROBABLY NOT ACCURATE BECAUSE 64 IS GONNA BE BACKED UP.

THEY'RE GONNA FIND ANOTHER WAY.

THE ONLY OTHER WAY IS PONCY TRACK.

SO THEY'RE GONNA BE USING THAT INTERSECTION OR THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WAS NOT REALLY DESIGNED FOR A THROUGH FAIR.

IT'S NOT, IT'S ONLY A BOULEVARD TO WIDE ENOUGH FOR THREE BLOCKS.

AND THEN IT'S NARROWER STREETS.

SO THE, THE ENTRANCE ONTO ASHLAND ROAD REALLY IS NOT MEANT FOR TRUCKS AT ALL.

UM, BUT THEY ARE USING IT BECAUSE IT'S FASTER AND THEY DON'T WANNA WAIT AT ASHLAND ROAD.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO ON THIS PROPOSAL.

THANK YOU, MISS BOY BAKOWSKI.

HELLO, UM, I'M GENE STRE LIVE ON 1 5 0 44 STONE HORSE CREEK ROAD IN GLEN ALLEN, WHICH IS HANDOVER COUNTY.

BUT, UH, MY HUSBAND AND I OWN PROPERTY DOWN THE ER, INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHICH HAS, UH, HARDLY BEEN MENTIONED EXCEPT BY TAMMY OVER THERE.

UM, THERE ARE 30 LOTS DOWN THERE AND, UM, A BUSINESS ON JUST ABOUT EVERY LOT AND A GOOD PART OF THEM OR LANDSCAPE BUSINESSES, UM, AND HEAVY EQUIPMENT BUSINESSES.

AND THERE ARE CON CREEK TRUCKS AND TRACTOR TRAILERS AND CON AND UH, UH, LANDSCAPE TRUCKS WITH LONG TRAILERS.

AND IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO GET OUT OF THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT NOW.

VDOT WON'T BUILD US A STOPLIGHT.

UM, AND SO WE HAVE LITTLE ORGANIZATIONS TRY TO MAINTAIN OUR OWN ROADS, BUT IT'S, IT'S VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION AND, UH, WHETHER YOU'RE HEADING LET HEADING, UH, NORTH OR SOUTH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF THERE.

SO I CAN'T IMAGINE THIS PROJECT IS GONNA HELP VERY MUCH SO.

I VOTE KNOW HOPE YOU WILL, TOO.

THANK YOU MISS STAR.

, UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MS. MCGEE, MISS MISS KWI, I HAD MADE A LOT OF NOTES TO, UH, SPEAK TO TONIGHT, BUT I'VE HEARD SO MUCH.

I'M JUST GONNA TRY TO, UH, TALK TO SOME OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, UH, BY THE PERCENTERS TONIGHT.

I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS BEHIND ME THAT ARE GONNA BE VERY HAPPY WITH ME BECAUSE I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO, I, I'M SORRY, I'M GETTING HECKLED THAT WE DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

OH, I'M SORRY.

, UH, MANNY ALVARE 29 60 WILLOW TRACE LANE.

IN SANDY HOOK.

IT COMES TO BOTH.

I, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I PRESENTED TO YOU WHEN I WAS PRESENTING THE BUDGET THIS YEAR, I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THE COMMERCIAL INVESTMENT OVER THE PREVIOUS FIVE YEARS, WHICH WAS AROUND $400 MILLION.

SO IN ONE FELL SWOOP, THIS PROJECT TRUMPS FIVE PREVIOUS YEARS OF A LOT OF WORK FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS AND OUR LANDOWNERS, UH, TO DEVELOP COMMERCIAL PROJECTS.

BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I REMEMBER IN SOME OF YOU ON THE BOARD MIGHT REMEMBER WHEN WE APPROVED PARKSIDE VILLAGE BACK IN 2017, I THINK IT WAS, AND WE, I HEARD SOME THINGS TONIGHT THAT, UH, REMINDED ME OF THAT BECAUSE I HEARD YOU ARE GOING TO REGRET THIS.

UH, WE APPROVED THE VILLAGE AGAINST THE, I MEAN, WITH THE OPPOSITION OF A LOT OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND COMMERCIAL OWNERS ON THIS INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT ONCE THEY, THE VILLAGE WAS CREATED, EVERY EVERYONE LIVING IN THE VILLAGE WAS GOING TO BE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE BLASTING AT THE QUARRY.

THE TRAFFIC, ANY ADDITIONS THAT THEY MADE TO THEIR BUSINESS WAS GONNA BE IMPACTED AND THEY, WERE THEY GOING TO OPPOSE IT.

SO, SO YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

THESE BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN THERE A LOT LONGER, I THINK A DISTRIBUTION CENTER, AND I HEARD A LOT ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.

IT'S GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE PROBABLY NEAR US IF IT DOESN'T GO HERE.

AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME IMPACT.

I HEARD THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SOME IMPACT FROM THE ONE IN, IN HENRICO.

UH, SO, UM, ROAD FUNDING IN VIRGINIA IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET.

UM, MISS, UH, HUNTER MENTIONED THAT WE STARTED WORKING ON THE DETAILS OF THIS PROJECT BACK IN 2018, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT WE IDENTIFIED THIS NEED WAY BEFORE THAT.

I THINK IT WAS 2015 WHEN WE DID THE AMP STORY, THE ARTERIAL MANAGEMENT STUDY.

AND IT IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEMS AT 2 88 AND TWO 50, THE PROBLEMS OF THE ROCKVILLE EXIT AS WELL AS HACKED ROAD.

UM, AND IT TAKES FOREVER.

IF THIS PROJECT DOES NOT, I KNOW PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WELL POSTPONE IT AND LET'S DO THE ROAD WORK AND THEN BRING IT BACK.

THAT ROAD WORK WILL NEVER HAPPEN UNLESS WE HAVE A BIG DRIVER LIKE THIS WHERE EVEN THE GOVERNOR AND I HEARD PEOPLE SAY, DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE GOVERNOR, BUT EVEN THE GOVERNOR WILL GET BEHIND THE PROJECT OF THIS SIZE.

SO I, I MEAN, I I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT FOR THE COUNTY.

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I THINK IT COMES WITH SOME RISK LIKE EVERYTHING.

AND, AND I FEEL PRETTY GOOD THAT WHILE I WAS SITTING THERE ON THE BOARD, THAT NONE OF THE REALLY BAD THINGS THAT HAPPENED WHENEVER WE APPROVED THE PROJECT ACTUALLY, OR THAT WERE PROPOSED ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

SO I, I DO BELIEVE, UM, I I DO HOPE YOU'LL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND VOTE, UH, YES ON THIS AND WE'LL SOLVE THE ISSUES AS AS WE GO.

THANK YOU MR. JUST WANNA MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

I KNOW THERE'S A DELAY IN THE VIDEO IF YOU ARE IN ONE OF THE, UM, SATELLITE ROOMS. UH, WE HAVE SOME SEATS OPEN AND, UH, A FEW FOLKS, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THE EARRINGS WINDING DOWN, SO YOU MAY WANNA GET IN HERE.

UH, JONATHAN LA 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD AFTER ADMIT, I HAVEN'T FELT THIS MUCH PASSION IN A ROOM SINCE I CHAPERONED A MIDDLE SCHOOL DANCE.

UM, UM, TYPICALLY I SPEAK ON AGRICULTURAL ISSUES AND, AND, UM, THAT, THAT HAS BEEN SORT OF MY WHEELHOUSE.

AND BECAUSE I'M PRESBYTERIAN AND CARRY A LOT OF GUILT WITH ME, I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE FOLKS THAT CURRENTLY RESIDE IN PARKSIDE VILLAGE BECAUSE I WAS NOT ARTICULATE ENOUGH TO SPEAK.

SO THAT WAS NOT APPROVED, THAT THAT SUBDIVISION WAS BUILT IN AN AREA THAT WAS DESIGNED AND INTENDED FOR INDUSTRIAL AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.

BUT WHAT'S DONE IS DONE SO, AND I APPRECIATE NOW THEY'RE MY NEIGHBORS, THEY'RE HERE NOW.

SO HOW DO WE BALANCE, HOW DO WE BALANCE A 30 YEAR PLAN THAT SAID THIS AREA'S GONNA BE FOR BUSINESS SO THAT THE REST OF THE COUNTY, 85% STAYS AGRICULTURAL.

MY HORSES, SOMEBODY LIKES COWS, I LIKE COWS.

UH, ALL FOLLOWED THE PLAN.

SO WE HAVE AN ABERRATION CALLED PARKSIDE VILLAGE IN A SENSE THAT IS RESIDENTIAL IN AN AREA THAT WAS NOT EVER ENVISIONED.

AND AGAIN, MY APOLOGY IS I WASN'T ARTICULATE ENOUGH THAT THE BOARD THAT WAS IN PLACE BACK WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, DENIED IT.

THEY SHOULD HAVE DIED, BUT THEY DIDN'T.

SO I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU GUYS OTHER THAN I THINK IF I FOLLOW THE BIG PLAN IS TO PUT INDUSTRIAL AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA THAT IS INTENDED FOR INDUSTRIAL AND BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.

THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE A PERFECT SOLUTION.

BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT PERFECT WOULDN'T GET IN THE WAY OF GOOD OR EXCELLENT.

I DO HAVE FAITH IN THIS BOARD THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DETERMINE SOLUTIONS TO SOME OF THE ISSUES.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE YOU FOLKS ARE SO GOOD THAT YOU'RE GONNA SOLVE ALL THE ISSUES.

HATE ME IF YOU WILL, BUT I JUST DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA SOLVE 'EM ALL.

BUT I KNOW THAT THE HEART AND THE INTENT OF THIS BOARD HAS ALWAYS BEEN FIND THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THE 24,372 PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GOLAND COUNTY.

AND NOT ALL OF US ARE GONNA BE HAPPY WITH WHAT YOU DECIDE.

I WASN'T HAPPY WHEN YOU APPROVED THE SUBDIVISION IN AN INDUSTRIAL AND BUSINESS SECTION OF THE COUNTY, BUT NOW THAT IT IS THERE, WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE GROW THE ECONOMIC BASE AND STILL LOOK OUT FOR OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.

SEEING NO ONE ON THE FRONT ROW.

OH, OKAY.

UM, MY NAME'S ANN OLS.

I LIVE AT 1 16, 2 97 WOLF CREEK ROAD IN MONT HILLIER.

UM, I AM OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF THE ROAD SITUATION.

I DON'T THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, MS. HUNTER MENTIONED SHE SAT IN TRAFFIC WITH SEVEN CARS.

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SAID THEY'VE SAT IN TRAFFIC WITH 50, 70 CARS.

SO I'VE SAT IN TRAFFIC FOR 15 MINUTES, AT LEAST AT SOME POINTS, CUZ EVERYBODY IN HANOVER, THAT'S, THAT'S IN .

THAT'S THE WAY THEY HAVE TO GO.

AND UM, ALSO I FEEL LIKE I TALKED TO, I THINK MR. HOWARD, I TALKED TO YOU ON THE PHONE THE OTHER DAY.

UM, I SPOKE WITH SUE DIBEL, OUR SUPERVISOR.

SHE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THIS PROJECT.

SO I WOULD THINK THERE WOULD'VE BEEN SOME COMMUNICATION WITH GUC, LYNN AND HANOVER.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, I MEAN, I GUESS WITH 50 MILLION ON THE LINE, MAYBE YOU DON'T WANT TO DISCLOSE EVERYTHING.

SO CUZ I FEEL LIKE EVERYTHING'S JUST KIND OF BEEN, BUT, SO BASICALLY I'M OPPOSED TO THIS.

SO UNTIL THE ROAD IS FIXED, WHERE THE BRIDGE IS.

THANK

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YOU, MS. OLSON.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AT THIS TIME WE TYPICALLY ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD AND ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT HE, THEY HEARD THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.

MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS THE BOARD, AGAIN, ANDY CONLAN, UH, I THINK I'VE DESCRIBED WHO PANTON IS.

WE HAVEN'T TRIED TO HIDE IT, HIDE THE COMPANY.

WE HAVEN'T TRIED TO HIDE ANYONE.

WE DIDN'T HAVE OUR COMMUNITY MEETING.

WE HAVE BEEN OPEN AND HAD A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS, INCLUDING WITH BOARD SUPERVISOR MEMBERS FROM HANDOVER, AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY HERE IN GLAND AND STAFF KNOW ABOUT.

THERE'VE BEEN A NUMBER OF COMMENTS.

UH, I'LL START WITH THE OPERATIONAL CONCERNS.

OBVIOUSLY THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE MOST EFFICIENT AND COST EFFECTIVE OPERATIONS IS A KEY TO THEIR SUCCESS.

BUT, UH, THIS DEVELOPER'S GONE BEYOND THAT.

UH, FOR EXAMPLE, BUFFERS AND SOUND WALLS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS FIRE SUPPRESSION, ADDRESSING THAT, WORKING WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL, UH, THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T HAVE COMMENTS DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVEN'T REVIEWED IT.

IT IT MEANS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE COMMENTS AND THAT NOTHING FURTHER IS NEEDED FROM THEIR DEPARTMENT.

WE DID HEAR THE VERY SERIOUS CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED.

OBVIOUSLY I HAVE NO REASON TO DOUBT THE CONCLUSIONS, BUT I DON'T ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC ANALYSIS WHICH WAS NOT PRESENTED NOR MADE AVAILABLE.

SO THAT BEING SAID, THOUGH, WE ARE REQUIRED TO MEET AND WE WILL MEET ALL REGULATORY AND STATUTORY OBLIGATIONS AS TO AIR QUALITY, LIGHT POLLUTION, AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS THAT ARE RAISED.

WE HAVE TO MEET THEM.

WE WILL MEET THEM.

THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF STUDIES PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT THAT HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY AND BY THE STATE WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING NOISE, ENVIRONMENTAL, AND OF COURSE THE VIDOT IS ACTUALLY CONFIRMED WITH A RECENT LETTER IN THE LAST DAY OR SO THAT THEY CONFIRMED THE CONCLUSIONS OF THE TIA AFTER A NUMBER OF COMMENTS, REVISIONS, RESUBMISSIONS COMMENTS AGAIN, RESUBMISSIONS AGAIN.

AND FINALLY, A CONFIRMATION THAT THE TIA CONCLUSIONS ARE CORRECT.

AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE TRAFFIC AS WE ANTICIPATED, IS THE PRIMARY CONCERN.

WE ARE COMMITTING TO THE ACTUAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING ASKED OF US IN THE TIA.

HAVING BEEN CONFIRMED BY VDOT AND THE COUNTY, THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS ABOUT THE OVERALL DELAY AND EMS CONCERNS, BUT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO THOSE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO BEFORE WE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

MATTER OF FACT, WE'VE COMMITTED TO CERTAIN ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AS WE'RE STARTING CONSTRUCTION AND BEFORE, WITHIN 45 DAYS OF STARTING CONSTRUCTION TO HELP NOT ONLY OUR TRAFFIC BUT THE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC.

WE KNOW THAT IT'S A COMMON COMMENT THAT'S BEEN MADE THAT IT'S CRITICAL THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE BE IN PLACE BEFORE ANY DEVELOPMENT OCCUR.

MS. HUNTER'S SLIDE SHOWED DELAY TIMES CONTINUING TO INCREASE WITHOUT ANY DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.

THIS, THIS CORRIDOR NEEDS IMPROVEMENTS TODAY.

IT'S ALSO THE REALITY THAT IN ORDER TO GET THE NECESSARY FUNDING FOR THE IN INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU NEED TODAY, YOU NEED A DRIVER FOR ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES AND JOB GROWTH, NOT THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION.

THAT IT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT TO GET THE FUNDING THAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS, THIS PROJECT PRESENTS TO YOU TODAY, IS NOT ONLY TO ACCOMMODATE THE TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT ALSO ASSISTING WITH IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL HELP THE BACKGROUND AND THE GROWTH TRAFFIC, BUT ALSO BEING A, UH, UH, A DRIVER FOR FURTHER FUNDING, UH, FOR THE SMART SCALE AND OTHER FUNDING SOURCES.

ANY DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL HAS POTENTIAL POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE IMPACTS.

WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS, BOTH BY REQUIREMENTS OF THE REGULATORY AND STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS, BUT ALSO THE PROFFERS THAT WE PROVIDED.

WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS WITH THE SIGNIFICANT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AS DESCRIBED.

THIS COMES BEFORE YOU WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION.

IT ALSO COMES BEFORE YOU CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

WE REALIZE THERE IS A BALANCE TO GROWTH, BUT THAT GROWTH ALLOWS FOR THE BALANCE AS MR. ALVAREZ HAS POINTED OUT FOR KEEPING RURAL AREAS RURAL AND HAVING GROWTH WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE MET ALL LEGISLATIVE NA UH, PREREQUISITES FOR APPROVAL AND ASKED THAT YOU FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? MARK? I, I DID.

THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS, AND USING TECHNOLOGY, UH, THAT IS COMMONLY USED IN THE PRACTICE, CAME UP WITH THE FIGURES THAT MS. HUNTER PRESENTED.

MR. LUKINS? UH, MR. CONLAND LOOKING, UH, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE COMMENTS, I KIND OF FLAGGED TO COME BACK TO YOU ON THE NOISE ANALYSIS AND YOU MADE A REFERENCE TO NOISE ANALYSIS JUST NOW.

CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT, YOU HEARD, I THINK, UH, JOAN HUNTER, UM, TALKED ABOUT THE 50 TO 56, RIGHT? WAS THAT FROM YOUR I DON'T THINK WE DID A, AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE DIDN'T DO A SEPARATE SOUND STUDY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WE DID, WE DID A SOUND STUDY THAT WAS REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY, BUT WE DID THE SOUND STUDY ITSELF AND, AND ANOTHER, AT ANOTHER COMPARABLE FACILITY.

IS THAT WHAT THAT COMES FROM? THAT'S RIGHT.

YES, SIR.

AND SIR, AND THAT'S WITH, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW KEVIN, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP TO SPEAK FOR THAT.

UH, UH, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS WITH THE, UM, UH, THE, THE, THE SOUND WALLS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING.

THAT WAS AS, AS THE, THE FACILITY STANDING ALONE.

BUT, UH, KEVIN DELOY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

UM, KEVIN DELOY WITH BOWMAN CONSULTING, UH, ANDY IS CORRECT.

UH, KIMLEY HORN, THE SAME FIRM THAT DID THE TRAFFIC STUDY, HAS CONDUCTED A NOISE ANALYSIS, UH, TAKING IN AN ACCOUNT, THE AMBIENT CONDITIONS AT THE SITE, THE TOPOGRAPHY,

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AND SO BASED ON THOSE RESULTS, UH, SOUND WALLS AND BEMS WERE GOING TO BE DESIGNED INTO THE PROJECT.

SO WAS THE AIR CONDITIONER LEVEL NOISE, WAS THAT AFTER THE SOUND DAMPENING? IT WOULD BE BELOW, UH, JUST BELOW THE, THE SOUND OF A TYPICAL AIR AIR CONDITIONER.

BUT THAT NUMBER IS THAT, WELL, FIRST LET ME BACK UP.

WAS THAT, IS THAT MEASURED AT LIKE THE PROPERTY LINE OR AT, AT, AT THE PROPERTY LINE? YES.

SO THAT'S MEASURED AT THE PROPERTY LINE MM-HMM.

AND THAT 50 TO 56 DECIBELS, IS THAT AFTER TAKING TO ACCOUNT THE PLAN SOUND DAMPENING IT BETWEEN DAYTIME AND NIGHTTIME? IT VARIES BETWEEN 15 AND 56 UNDER, UH, PRE, UM, AMBI OR PRE ATTENUATION CONDITIONS.

SO AFTER WE ADD THE SOUND WALLS, THOSE, THOSE DECIMAL LEVELS WILL GO DOWN.

THERE ARE NO PROFFERS IN THAT, THAT MAKE ANY PROFFERS AS TO THAT, THAT'S JUST A PROJECTION OF WHAT, WHAT WE CAN EXPECT WITH, WITH RESPECT TO THE SOUND LEVELS, RIGHT? NO, BUT WE DO HAVE IN OUR PLANS THE, UH, SOUND BARRIERS AND THE BUFFERS AND THE BURNS THAT WE'VE PROVIDED FOR.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

THAT THAT IS A COMMITMENT YES.

TO PROVIDE THE SOUND DAMPENING.

AND THE REASON WHY THE SOUND IS, IS AS LOW AS IT IS UNDER, UM, THE CONDITIONS BEFORE SOUND WALLS AND BURNS ARE ADDED, IS BECAUSE HOW FAR BACK THE FACILITY IS ON THE PLAN.

THANK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT, THAT WAS ALL I HAD AT THIS TIME.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR PARTICIPATE PARTICIPATION AND HOW WE CONDUCTED OURSELVES IN THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IT WAS EXTREMELY SPEC, RESPECTFUL, VERY CORDIAL.

AND, UM, IT'S WHY I LOVE SERVING THIS, THIS COMMUNITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, NOW WE GET TO DO OUR WORK.

SO BOARD, DO WE HAVE A MOTION OR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? UH, IN ORDER TO GET THE DISCUSSION STARTED, I WOULD, UH, PUT FORTH A MOTION.

SO MR. SHARP IS EXPLAINING THIS BY ROBERT'S RULES.

PUT A MOTION ON THE TABLE.

IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO GO BY THE MOTION OR AGREE WITH IT, BUT IT JUST ALLOWS US TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

I MOVE THAT THE BOARD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING R Z 2022 DASH 0 0 6 FOR 105.038 ACRES ON 1990 ASHLAND ROAD FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO WITH CRAWFORD CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.

DID YOU MEAN AS WITH THE AMENDED NEW PROFFER, MR. SHARP RECEIV, I ASSUME THAT HAD BEEN INCLUDED IT WITH THE AMENDED PROFFER AS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU, MR. EXCUSE.

SURE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

THANK YOU, MR. SHARPENS.

MS. LASETTE.

WE HAVE MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION, MS. ETTE.

WE'LL START AT THE END AND WE'LL OUR WAY DOWN.

THAT I HEARD, UH, REPEATEDLY WAS GET THE, GET THE ROAD WORK DONE FIRST BEFORE THE PROJECT'S DONE.

SO, UM, I AGREE WITH THE CHAIRMAN.

I THANK ALL THE CITIZENS WHO HAVE WRITTEN CALLED, COME IN NIGHTS, STAYED LATE, AND GAVE US, UH, LOTS OF INFORMATION IN YOUR OPINIONS.

SO REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF AS WELL, JOANNE AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO'S WORKED REALLY HARD, UM, ON TRYING TO WORKED ON THIS PROJECT, TRY TO GET ANSWERS, UH, TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE RAISED, THAT WE'VE RAISED.

UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD REGARDLESS OF HOW THIS COMES OUT TONIGHT, I WANT YOU TO KNOW WE HAVE AGONIZED OVER THIS DECISION.

THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO GOLAND COUNTY, AND IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO THE CITIZENS.

SO WHICHEVER WAY THIS GOES, UM, WE DIDN'T, WE DON'T TAKE THIS LIKELY.

WE HAVE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION EVERYTHING THAT, UH, WE'VE HEARD FROM YOU AND ALL THE RESEARCH THAT WE'VE DONE, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THE STAFF HAS BROUGHT TO US.

UM, ONE THING

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THAT CAN'T HAPPEN.

THAT WON'T HAPPEN.

AND WE'LL NEVER GET THAT INTERCHANGE FIXED IF WE DON'T HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

NOW, WHETHER IT'S THIS OR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT THAT'S JUST NOT THE WAY IT WORKS.

VDOT IS NOT PROACTIVE.

UM, THIS PROJECT, WHEN IT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED IN SMART SCALE, UM, AND THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS THE TWO-LANE DIVERGENT DIAMOND.

UM, IT WAS 2, 4 2, YEAH, IT WAS THE TWO-LANE DIVERGENT DIAMOND.

AND WHAT THEY DO IN SMART SCALE IS THEY GRADE PROJECTS, UH, BASED ON CONGESTION, ACCIDENTS, POLLUTION, UM, ALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ALL THOSE FACTORS.

AND THE YEAR THAT WE HAD, THE LAST TIME WE HAD IT UP, THERE WERE 72 PROJECTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.

WE SCORED 67.

WE WERE NEVER GONNA GET THAT THING FUNDED.

BUT SOMEHOW THROUGH THE MAGIC OF CENTRAL VIRGINIA TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY, UM, AND A LOT OF WORK THAT WE'VE DONE THERE, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND THE TWO LANE.

BUT NOW WE UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ENOUGH.

THERE'S MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, PROFFERING SOME SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, TRAFFIC LIGHTS, TURN LANES, UH, ADDED THE SIGN TONIGHT NOT TO TURN LEFT, BUT THAT'S STILL NOT THE ANSWER.

THAT'S NOT THE TOTAL ANSWER.

THE TOTAL ANSWER IS GONNA BE THE FOUR LANE DIAMOND.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

AND WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE SOME MONEY FUNDED, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF SUPPORT.

REMEMBER, THIS IS REGIONAL MONEY THAT'S BEING SPENT ON THIS, UH, INTERCHANGE.

THIS IS NOT GIN'S MONEY.

THIS IS COMING FROM THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

SO OTHER PROJECTS MAY BE DELAYED OR TURNED BACK OR MODIFIED SO THAT WE CAN GET THIS PROJECT DONE, BUT WE ARE GONNA PUSH FOR IT.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS ON OUR SIDE TO GET THIS DONE.

UM, SO THAT THE TRAFFIC YOU'RE RIGHT, IS AN ISSUE.

BUT I THINK WE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

I'M COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.

UM, THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT FOR GOLAND.

IT'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

IT'S, IT'S THE RIGHT PROJECT.

I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT WORK TO DO.

AND THIS BOARD HAS A HISTORY, ALTHOUGH WE'VE CHANGED A FEW PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS.

WE HAVE A HISTORY OF SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AND VERY CAREFULLY THINKING THROUGH PROJECTS.

WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON WHO IT IS.

WE DON'T MAKE DECISIONS AGAINST PEOPLE.

WE LOOK AT THE PROJECT ITSELF AND TRY AND LOOK AT ALL THE FACTORS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE THIS TIME.

SO I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY'S GONNA VOTE.

WE DON'T ASK EACH OTHER HOW WE'RE GONNA VOTE.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

UM, BUT THOSE ARE THE COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE.

THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON.

MR. CHAIR.

IN THE INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR, SHOULD WE PUT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES IN THAT ORDER? AND THAT USUALLY LEADS TO A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE WHEN SAYING, HEY, THIS, THERE'S SOME FRICTION HERE AND SOME FRUSTRATION.

UM, YEAH, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO PILE ON A LITTLE BIT AND ADD MY THANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP TONIGHT.

IT WAS VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT THE FOLKS THAT SHOWED UP TONIGHT TO MAKE THEIR COMMENTS, WHO WERE SPEAKING FROM THE HEART, AND YOU TRULY BELIEVED EVERYTHING YOU SAID, AND IT WAS VERY PASSIONATE APPEALS, AND IT GAVE US A LOT TO THINK ABOUT, AND IT GAVE US A LOT TO THINK ABOUT.

AND, BUT THANK YOU FOR, FOR COMING HERE.

PART OF OUR JOB IS TO TRY TO TAKE OUT THE EMOTION AND SEPARATE THE MERIT FROM THE EMOTION.

IT'S HARD TO DO.

OFTENTIMES WE GET PUT IN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE UP HERE WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO USE THEIR CELL PHONES, BUT THEY DON'T WANT CELL TOWERS.

AND THEN IT COMES TO US TO APPROVE CELL TOWERS SO PEOPLE CAN USE THEIR CELL PHONES.

IT'S NOT A GOOD PLACE TO BE IN.

PEOPLE EVIDENTLY LIKE TO ORDER ONLINE AND NOT GO TO THE MALL.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY HERE IS ORDERED ONLINE, BUT THEN IT BECOMES THE NEED FOR THE WAREHOUSES.

UH, WHEN YOU PLACE THAT ORDER ONLINE, IT USUALLY GOES TO CHINA.

THEY PUT IT ON A BOAT.

IT GOES OFF THE COAST OF CALIFORNIA AND SITS FOREVER.

PANAMA HAS INVESTED 5 BILLION TO MORE THAN TRIPLE THE THROUGHPUT ON THE PANAMA CANAL TO BRING SOME OF THAT, THOSE BOATS THAT ARE WAITING OFFSHORE OVER TO THE EAST COAST, SO WE CAN GET TO YOUR PORCH FASTER.

SO IT GETS TO THE EAST COAST.

THERE'S ONLY THREE OR FOUR PORTS ON THE EAST COAST THAT HAVE A 60 FOOT DRAFT, WHICH IS THE REQUIRED DEEP WATER DRAFT FOR SOME OF THESE EXTRA LARGE, UH, BOATS.

THE PORT OF VIRGINIA INVESTED A BILLION DOLLARS OF VIRGINIA MONEY IN IMPROVING THE PORT OF VIRGINIA TO BE ABLE TO ACCEPT THESE BOATS.

SO NOW WE GOT 'EM OFF ON THE BOAT IN CHINA THROUGH THE PANAMA CANAL, UP EAST COAST TO THE PORT OF VIRGINIA.

NOW IT'S GOTTA GO FIND A WAREHOUSE TO BE TRANS SHIPPED OR, OR SORTED OUT THAT.

THEN, SO NOW WE END UP, WHERE DO YOU PUT A WAREHOUSE? IT'S KIND OF AN INDUSTRIAL USE.

SO YOU LOOK AROUND VIRGINIA INTERSTATE 95 GOES FROM NEW YORK TO FLORIDA.

64 GOES FROM VIRGINIA BEACH

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TO ST.

LOUIS.

THERE'S A NICE INTERSECTION.

SO LET'S LOOK AROUND THERE FOR A COUNTY THAT'S ON GOOD FINANCIAL STABILITY, RIGHT? WE HAVE A TRIPLE A CREDIT RATING FROM ALL THE AGENCIES.

WE HAVE AVAILABLE LAND.

WE HAVE THE LOWEST COST REAL ESTATE, UH, RATE IN THE REGION.

SO YOU GO, OKAY, THERE YOU ARE AT THE INTERSECTION.

MAJOR INTERSTATES, LOW COST, UH, BUSINESS FRIENDLY ROOM TO DEVELOP.

LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PLACE.

NOW LET'S LOOK AT GSON COUNTY.

WHERE DO YOU PUT IT IN GSON COUNTY? DO YOU PUT A WAREHOUSE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS? YOU GET OUT THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN, AND WE'VE CLUSTERED, USES LAND USES IN DIFFERENT AREAS, RESIDENTIAL ALONG THE JAMES RIVER COMMERCIAL AND, UH, BUSINESS IN CENTERVILLE INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR FOR THE INDUSTRIAL USES.

SO AS THEY LOOK AT GIN AS AN ATTRACTIVE PLACE TO COME IN AND YOU LOOK AROUND G AND WHERE'S THE RIGHT PLACE TO PUT IT? YOU GO LOOK AT THAT INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.

NOW, THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS THE PLAN THAT THE COUNTY PUTS OUT THERE FOR DEVELOPERS TO LOOK AT FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA MOVE TO GIN TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY WANNA LIVE, IF THEY WANT TO QUIET RURAL SETTING, OR IF THEY DON'T MIND LIVING NEXT TO QUARRIES AND LANDFILLS.

AND I'LL, AND I'LL, AND I'LL TELL YOU, WE HEARD ONE CITIZEN SAY THAT, UM, YEARS AGO WHEN THE PARKSIDE VILLAGE, UH, REZONING CAME UP THAT SHOULD THAT GO IN THE, IN THE INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR OR SHOULD THAT GO IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA? NOW, THE COUNTY DOESN'T PUT THINGS ANYWHERE, BUT WE REVIEW EVERY A APPLICATION THAT COMES IN.

AND, AND WHEN THAT APPLICATION COME IN, I WAS PERSONALLY WORRIED THAT NOBODY, NOBODY THAT WANTS TO MOVE TO RURAL GIN'S, GONNA WANNA LIVE NEXT TO QUARRY'S AND, AND LANDFILLS AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS.

I WAS WORRIED THEY WOULDN'T SELL.

BOY WAS I PROVEN WRONG.

THEY CAN'T, THEY WERE SELLING THOSE AS FAST AS THEY WERE BUILDING 'EM.

AND PEOPLE LOVE IT.

PEOPLE HAVE MOVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT, LOVE THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO IT'S TURNED OUT TO BE WILDLY SUCCESSFUL AGAINST, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERNS.

THEY WERE ALL LAID TO REST.

THAT WHATEVER IT IS ABOUT THE, THAT INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE UNATTRACTIVE, TURNS OUT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

SO PEOPLE HAVE MOVED IN, PRICES HAVE GONE UP AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, AND WHICH IS A GREAT, UM, GREAT THING TO, TO EXPERIENCE FOR THOSE FOLKS.

NOW LET ME TRY AND GO THROUGH SOME OF WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT REAL QUICKLY AS IF I CAN.

UM, CUZ I KEPT AN OPEN MIND TONIGHT COMING IN HERE.

WE ALL DO THAT.

WE WAIT TILL AFTER WE HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS.

IF YOU CLOSE YOUR MIND BEFORE YOU COME IN, YOU'RE NOT DOING YOUR JOB.

SO MY OPEN MIND, I THINK, SHOULD WE INVEST IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, SPEND TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BUILD A BRIDGE, BUILD ADDITIONAL FIREHOUSES.

AND BY THE WAY, YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THAT TONIGHT, BUT IN THE COUNTY'S FIRE RESCUE PLAN, WE HAVE A NEW FIREHOUSE ON THE EAST END THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED THROUGH A, A RESOLUTION, A REFERENDUM RATHER, LAST NOVEMBER ON THE BALLOT BY THE CITIZENS AT 85% APPROVAL.

WE ISSUED 50 MILLION OF GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS IN FEBRUARY.

SO WE HAVE THE APPROVAL FROM CITIZENS IN THE FUNDING IN HAND.

IT'S A COUNTY PROJECT, SO WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

WE'VE ALSO GOT THE LAND IDENTIFIED AS WELL.

SO THERE'LL BE ADDITIONAL FIRE RESCUE ON THE EAST END.

BUT AS I, AS I KEPT AN OPEN MIND, SHOULD WE INVEST TENS OF MILLIONS IN THE BRIDGE, THE DIVERGENT DIAMOND, THIS FIREHOUSE, ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE, SHOULD WE INVEST THAT FIRST AND THEN HOPE THE REVENUE COMES IN.

AND FOR ME, THIS IS DEJAVU.

UH, I RAN FIRST, RAN FOR THIS BOARD POSITION 10, 12 YEARS AGO.

I FORGET THE EXACT DATE, BUT ONE OF THE REASONS I RAN WAS THE COUNTY HAD INVESTED HEAVILY IN INFRASTRUCTURE.

THEY BORROWED 65 MILLION AND, AND BURIED, UH, WATER AND SEWER PIPES AND HOPED THE REVENUE WOULD COME AND IT DARN NEAR BANKRUPT OF THE COUNTY.

AND SO I RAN FOR THIS POSITION TO TRY AND HAS TAKEN US 10 YEARS TO DEBT RESTRUCTURINGS, THREE CREDIT RATINGS TO GET US ON VERY, VERY FIRM, ONE OF THE STRONGEST COUNTIES IN THE COUNTRY.

AND NOW I HEAR, WELL, LET'S GO SPEND A LOT MORE MONEY AND INVEST A LOT IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN HOPE THE REVENUE COMES IN.

CUZ YOU CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.

YOU CAN EITHER SPEND THE MONEY AND THEN HOPE THE REVENUE COMES IN, OR YOU CAN WAIT FOR THE REVENUE TO COME IN, WHICH OVERWHELMS YOUR SERVICES.

OR MY PREFERENCE WAS LET'S DO 'EM TOGETHER.

LET'S NOT PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, PUT THE HORSE DOWN THE ROAD IN FRONT AND LEAVE THE CART.

LET'S HOOK THE DOOR, THE HORSE AND THE CART TOGETHER AND HAVE 'EM TRAVEL DOWN TOGETHER.

SO HERE, WHAT WE HAVE UNDER CONSIDERATION IS A REVENUE SOURCE THAT COULD FUND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.

SO THEN I ASKED MYSELF, WE'VE GOT A TRAFFIC PROBLEM.

NOW IF WE APPROVE THIS OR DISAPPROVE THIS, WHICH GIVES US A GREATER LIKELIHOOD OF SOLVING THE CURRENT PROBLEM.

AND I DON'T THINK TURNING THIS DOWN WOULD HELP WITH EITHER TRAFFIC COUNTS.

UH, COUNTY TAX DOLLAR RESOURCES MATCH FUNDING, STATE AND FEDERAL GRANT MONEY.

THE LIKELIHOOD OF GETTING ANY OF THAT AND GETTING THE ATTENTION OF THE RIGHT FOLKS WITH THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF DOLLARS DROPS DRAMATICALLY IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT THE LIKELIHOOD OF FIXING THE CURRENT PROBLEM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO FIX IT.

IT'S NOT A GONNA CREATE A COMPOUND.

THE PROBLEM, THEN I GO THROUGH THE, UM, LOCATION.

SHOULD IT BE HERE OR SHOULD IT BE SOMEWHERE ELSE? THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL USE THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING POSSIBLY PUTTING IT IN OUR DESIGNATED INDUSTRIAL AREA.

IF IT DOESN'T BELONG THERE, DOES IT BELONG IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS? OBVIOUSLY NOT.

IT'D BE ABSURD.

AND IF WE DON'T PUT INDUSTRIAL

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SO IT'S PROBABLY INAPPROPRIATE TO PUT RESIDENTS IN OUR INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.

SO WHAT SHOULD GO THERE? IT SHOULD BE AN INDUSTRIAL TYPE USE.

AND I THINK THIS ONE IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMP PLAN.

SO THEN THE QUESTION, SHOULD YOU FOLLOW THE COMP PLAN OR NOT? AND OBVIOUSLY IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW THE COMP PLAN, YOU END UP WITH, UM, SOME PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD.

SO AS I GO THROUGH THE ISSUES, IF YOU, I'M TRYING TO LAND THIS PLANE HERE.

IF YOU ENVISION, ENVISION THE COUNTY A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND EVERYTHING IS FULLY IMPLEMENTED, IF THIS GOES FORWARD AND IF IT'S BUILT AND IF ALL THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND IF THE, THE FIREHOUSE, IF YOU JUST ENVISION EVERYTHING BEING DONE IN MY MIND, TRAFFIC WILL BE MOVING BETTER THAN IT IS NOW.

THERE'LL BE MORE FIRE RESCUE RESOURCES TO PROVIDE FASTER RESPONSE TIMES.

IF YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE, IF THERE'S A BURGLAR, IF YOU HAVE A HEART ATTACK, THERE'LL BE MORE RESOURCES.

TRAFFIC WILL BE FLOWING BETTER THAN IT IS NOW, AND THE COUNTY WILL BE, BE IN A BETTER POSITION WITH MORE JOBS.

SO WHEN I ENVISION IF IT'S FULLY IMPLEMENTED, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT WOULD, IT WOULD STAND A BETTER CHANCE OF SOLVING SOME OF OUR CURRENT PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

NOW, WE ALSO HEARD FROM THE ONE CITIZEN THAT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THERE IS SOME FRICTION AND THERE IS SOME CONCERN, THERE IS SOME PASSION.

SO OUR JOB THEN IS, OKAY, WELL HOW CAN WE BEST ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES? BECAUSE THE PARKSIDE VILLAGE IS OUR CONSTITUENTS, YOU, YOUR RESIDENTS OF GOS AND YOUR CITIZENS.

HOW CAN WE HELP YOU AND FIX YOUR ISSUES AS THEY COME UP? AND THE QUESTION AGAIN BECOMES, IF THIS GOES FORWARD, DOES THAT HELP FIX YOUR PROBLEMS? IF IT GOES AWAY, DOES THAT HELP FIX YOUR PROBLEMS OR NOT? AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WRESTLE WITH HERE WHEN WE, WHEN WE UH, VOTE ON THE PROJECT.

SO MR. CHAIR, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

I'LL YIELD BACK THE REST OF MY TIME.

THANKS MR. PETERSON.

MR. LUMPKINS, MR. PETERSON TOOK ALL MY TIME, DIDN'T HE? MR. LAMPKIN? UM, I'LL TRY NOT TO LIKE MR. SPOON AND I, I'LL TRY NOT TO REPEAT, UM, WHAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, BUT I PROBABLY WILL END UP REPEATING SOME OF IT.

I I BROUGHT UP TRAFFIC EARLIER AFTER OUR STAFF REPORT, UM, BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN MY CONCERN AND I THINK IT'S THE PREVAILING CONCERN OF EVERYBODY THAT, THAT'S BEEN MY CONCERN SINCE DAY ONE.

AND I, I SOMETIMES I WAS THINKING AND LISTENING TO MY COLLEAGUES AND THINKING ABOUT, AND, AND THE EMAILS THAT WE GET AND SOME OF THE PASSION THAT COMES, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE, I MEAN, WE, WE HATE VOTING.

I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT AND IF I VOTE YES, IT'S GOING TO BE VOTING AGAINST A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAME FORWARD AND SAID, PLEASE VOTE NO.

AND, AND YOU HAD SOME GOOD ARGUMENTS AND, AND RAISED CONCERNS.

AND TO MR. PETERSON'S POINT, IF, IF THIS PASSES WE NEED, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE STAY INVOLVED.

SO I THINK SOMETIMES WHAT IS REPRESENTING PEOPLE MEAN, AND I, I THINK MR. PETERSON POINTED OUT THAT WE KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND WE, AND WE, WE DO, WE DON'T TALK, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT THESE HOW WE'RE GONNA VOTE BEFORE.

WE NEVER HAVE, NOT SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD.

AND IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING WE, WE DO, BUT WE ARE ENGAGED AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO ENGAGED IN THE TRAFFIC COMPONENT OF THIS.

UM, BUT I, I'LL TELL YOU, I CAME INTO THIS, IT DOES CHECK ALL THE BOXES.

YOU LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN AND TO WHAT MR. ALVA SAID WHEN I GOT ON THIS BOARD AFTER NED CREASY PASSED, UM, AND, AND I STARTED LOOKING AT TALKING TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS AND DISTRIBUTION CENTER WAS COMING UP AS, AS A TARGET.

AND I THINK YOU'LL HEARD THAT EARLIER.

THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN LOOKING TO TARGET.

SO THIS DOES CHECK ALL THE BOXES.

SO, YOU KNOW, SEEING THE EMAILS AND THEN HEARING THE PASSION TONIGHT, IT REALLY DOES.

AS, AS MS. LAS COLETTE SAYS, IT'S, IT KIND OF PAINS US.

SO I, I THINK WE CAN EITHER NOT STAY ENGAGED AND REALLY JUST LISTEN TO THE VOTES TODAY.

BUT, BUT WE'RE NOT, THIS IS AN ENGAGED BOARD.

I'M, THIS YEAR I'M CHAIR OF THE REGIONAL, REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.

MR. SPOON, HOWARDS OUR REPRESENTATIVE ON THE C B T A.

MS. LASETTE IS ON THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION WITH ME.

WE ARE VERY ENGAGED AND CV T A HAS FORCED THIS BOARD AND ALL THE BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS AND RICHMOND CITY COUNCIL TO GET MUCH MORE ENGAGED IN TRAFFIC.

THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE, AND, AND THEN IT BECOMES A REGIONAL COMPONENT.

WE COULDN'T RAISE YOUR TAXES ENOUGH TO BUILD THIS OURSELVES.

SO WE DO END UP, AND I SEE ONE OF OUR HOUSE OF DELEGATES REPRESENTATIVES HERE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO HIM AND HE'S GONNA HEAR MORE FROM US.

AND THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION HAS BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH US.

WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING ALL WE CAN.

SO I SEE THAT'S PART OF REPRESENTING YOU ALL IS STAYING ENGAGED, STAYING ENGAGED EARLY ON.

AND I'LL TELL YOU, THIS GOES BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF MY INVOLVEMENT ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISOR.

I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD BEFORE AND WHEN MR. PETERSON WAS TALK, I, I RAN, WE ALL RAN IN 2011.

I GOT ON THE SCHOOL BOARD IN 2011 AND, AND WE HAD THE

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CLEAN SWEEP IN 2011.

AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS BURIED PIPE.

IF YOU BUILT IT, THEY WILL COME.

THAT'S WHEN I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD AT THE TIME, FLEW VAN HAD JUST BUILT A GIANT HIGH SCHOOL AND THEY HAD CAPACITY WAY EXCEEDING THE NUMBER, BUT THEY WERE BUILT IT CUZ THEY DIDN'T WANNA HAVE TO BUILD IT AGAIN.

WELL, THE NEXT ELECTION CYCLE, THE WHOLE SCHOOL BOARD WAS THROWN OUT JUSTIFIABLY BECAUSE THEY WAY OVERSPENT.

I MEAN THERE WAS SO MUCH TAXES AND SO MUCH COST.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.

IF WE TRIED TO TAKE THIS ON, WE WOULD BE BURDENING OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I, I'LL TRY TO LAND THE PLANE AS AS YOU SAY, BUT MIS MIS LEVITT, A LOT OF YOU HAD A LOT OF THINGS THAT STUCK WITH ME.

BUT MS. LEVITT SAID THIS IS A PIVOTAL MOMENT FOR OUR COUNTY.

AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.

BUT THEN SHE SET UP THE CHOICE AS YOU CHOOSE BETWEEN THE ECONOMY OR HEALTH.

AND THAT WAS, THAT'S TOUGH.

I'M NOT SURE I AGREE THAT THAT'S REALLY THE CHOICE, BUT I WILL TAKE THAT AND RUN WITH, CUZ I STARTED THINKING ABOUT HEALTH.

AND THAT'S A CONCERN IN ADDITION TO THE TRIAL, THE TRAFFIC POLLUTION AND THEN RESCUE TIMES.

AND MR. ALVAREZ HAS POINTED OUT THIS PROJECT, THE NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE GOING TO EXCEED WHAT WE'VE GOTTEN IN THE LAST MANY, MANY YEARS.

WHEN I TOUR WITH THE FIRE CHIEF, UH, SIX MONTHS AGO, LESS THAN SIX MONTHS AGO, I LOOK AT CENTERVILLE, THE GENTLEMAN HERE THAT SERVED FOR MANY YEARS IN CENTERVILLE.

I WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU WERE TELLING US ABOUT THAT AND, AND HOW THINGS HAVE CHANGED, WE NEED NEW FACILITIES IN OUR FIREHOUSE.

WE DESPERATELY NEED THEM.

SO MR. PETERSON CORRECTLY POINTS OUT THAT THIS IS THE PATH, HOPEFULLY, WELL, NOT JUST HOPEFULLY, BUT WE BELIEVE WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS MAKING THIS A PRUDENT PATH.

AND THE WORK DOESN'T END TONIGHT IF THIS GETS APPROVED, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE STAYING ENGAGED.

BUT THIS IS A PRUDENT PATH TO GROWING GRACEFULLY AND TO PROVIDING THESE SERVICES THAT FOLKS EXPECT AND NEED.

YOU ALL HAVE ALL HEARD OF AVERY POINT.

WELL, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DATA OF THE NUMBER OF SKILLED NURSING BEDS THERE AND THE NUMBER OF TRIPS THAT'S GONNA TRIGGER WITH AMBULANCES, THE ONE AMBULANCE IN CENTERVILLE GOES ON A RUN.

THESE ARE MORE THAN ONE A DAY RUNS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING THE, THE NUMBERS THAT ARE JUST BEEN APPROVED.

SO THIS COUNTY WILL BENEFIT TREMENDOUSLY FROM THIS REVENUE AND IT'S GOING TO SERVE EXACTLY.

I THINK MR. PETERSON DID A BETTER JOB OF EXPLAINING HOW THIS IS GOING TO, TO LEAD US TO THE HEALTH THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A CHOICE BETWEEN ECONOMY AND HEALTH.

IT'S AN ECONOMIC BENEFIT THAT'S GOING TO OPEN UP, I THINK THE OPPORTUNITIES TO ADDRESS THE HEALTH CONCERNS VIS-A-VIS SERVICES, CRITICAL SERVICES OF FIRE, RESCUE AND POLICE.

SO, UM, I DO, I TOO APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PASSION AND LIKE I SAID, IT REALLY KIND OF PAINS ME TO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VOTING AGAINST WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAYS.

OF COURSE WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF, UH, WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF COME OVER TO ME AND SAY, HEY, BY THE WAY, I, YOU KNOW, THE WHISPER AND SAY I, I SUPPORT THIS.

AND I'M KIND OF LIKE, WELL, CAN YOU COME TO THE MEETING? NO, I'M BUSY.

SO, UM, THERE IS SUPPORT AND I SUPPORT IT.

I THINK IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT OVER YET THOUGH.

I'M NOT SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN VOTE YES AND, AND SAY WE'RE DONE.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO RELY ON OUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT WE'RE GONNA RELY ON OUR BUILDING INSPECTORS TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE GOING WELL, OUR STAFF TO MAKE SURE THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS BEING FOLLOWED IF THIS GETS APPROVED.

SO I THINK, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE TO ADD OTHER THAN, UM, I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE TO REPRESENT YOU WELL AND THE REPRESENTATION IS GOING TO BE MUCH BROADER AND STAYING ENGAGED AND LOOKING AT WHERE THIS COUNTY IS HEADING.

AND I THINK THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION FOR OUR FUTURE IF IT GETS APPROVED.

THANK YOU, MR. LUMPS.

UM, I JUST WANNA PICK, I THINK SOME OF WHAT YOU SAID DOVETAILS NICELY.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS ABOUT BEING UP HERE IS WHEN, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WHEN YOU HEAR PEOPLE SAYING THINGS, YOU WANT TO, I HAVE A, I HAVE A TENDENCY TO WANT TO ANSWER THEM AND, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVE A CONVERSATION AND DEBATE.

I GOT INTO THIS, THIS GIG ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, BECAME A POLITICIAN.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE HARDEST THING ABOUT BEING A POLITICIAN, UM, FIRST PERSON LIKE ME, I HAVE AN UNHEALTHY DESIRE TO BE LIKED, BECOME A POLITICIAN.

IT WILL CURE YOU OF THAT DESIRE.

UM, OR YOU WOULD THINK IT WOULD, BUT WHEN I LOOK AT AN AUDIENCE AND I SEE THIS LIKE, I WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE HAPPY, I WANT, I WANT, I WANNA FEEL GOOD.

I WANNA BE ABLE TO WALK TO MY CAR AND GIVE HIGH FIVES AND, AND THIS AND THAT.

UM, AND I REALIZE THAT I CAN SIT HERE AND GO POINT FOR POINT WITH

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EVERYTHING THAT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE YOUR MINDS THAT YOU THINK THIS IS A GOOD PROJECT.

I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I KNOW THAT WHAT I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I THINK, WHAT I WOULD HOPE I CAN COMMUNICATE TO YOU IS THIS, IS THAT WHEN I WATCHED THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND I SAW THE PASSION AND I SAW THE CONCERNS, IT BECAME VERY REAL TO ME THAT THE PROPOSED SOLUTIONS WEREN'T GOOD.

AND WE HEAR A LOT OF TIMES LIKE, OH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY CHANGE THINGS.

WELL, THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE OPERATE.

WE, WE, WE HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING SO THAT WE CAN HEAR THE CONCERNS AND THEN STAFF WORKS WITH THE APPLICANT AND WE CAN GET TO BETTER APPLICATIONS AND THEY'RE BETTER BECAUSE THEY'VE LISTENED TO YOUR CONCERNS.

UM, IT JUST WASN'T ENOUGH, THE PROPOSED SOLUTION FOR ME TO, I JUST LOOKED AT IT.

I'M NOT A TRANS, I'M LEARNING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, BUT I REALIZED THAT IT WASN'T, UM, AND WE SAID, OKAY, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THIS? AND UM, I MADE A BUNCH OF PHONE CALLS.

I CALLED, UH, DOUG WIRE, WHO'S IN THE ROOM.

I CALLED SENATOR PEAK.

UM, I GOT IN TOUCH WITH THE SECRETARY OF COMMERCE, UH, MS. MERRICK, SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION AND MR. SHARP, AND I WORKED WITH HIM AND THE GOVERNOR AND THE CHIEF OF STAFF AND EVEN ABIGAIL SPAMMER OFFICE.

AND I DON'T SAY THAT SOMEBODY MADE THE COMMENT LIKE, OH, DON'T DO THIS CUZ THE STATE WANTS THIS.

THERE'S, THAT HAS NOTHING.

THE REASON I, I USED WHAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY POLITICAL CAPITAL, LET'S BE HONEST.

LIKE I WISH I COULD SAY I DID, BUT I DON'T.

BUT I USED IT ANYWAY.

UM, AND THESE FOLKS WERE REALLY WILLING TO HELP AND ARE STILL WILLING TO HELP.

I'VE BEEN IN DAILY CONVERSATIONS, UH, SECRETARY COMMERCE HAS TEXTED ME TWICE TODAY, AND I TELL YOU THAT NOT TO TELL YOU HOW BIG MY ROLODEX IS GETTING, WHICH IS ACTUALLY KIND OF COOL, BUT TO TELL YOU THAT WE'RE GETTING THE RESOURCES AND BUILDING THE RELATIONSHIPS TO GET THIS DONE, TO PUSH THIS TO REALIZE THAT THIS HAS TO ALIGN.

THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU GET THIS DONE IN ACCOUNTING, OUR SIZE WITH OUR RESOURCES IS BY HAVING RELATIONSHIPS AND HAVING GREAT PROJECTS.

THIS, LISTEN, NOBODY TOOK THE PHONE CALL BECAUSE IT WAS ME.

THEY TOOK IT BECAUSE THIS WAS A GOOD PROJECT, BUT HAVE, HAVE COMMITTED TO SAY, WE'RE, WE'RE WE, WE'RE GONNA SUPPORT YOU ON THIS, WE'RE WE WANT TO MAKE THIS WORK.

UM, AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS, UM, THIS BOARD IS GOING TO WORK FOR YOU.

I HAVE, I'VE BEEN, UH, WEARING MR. CARPENTER OUT SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF THIS GOES FORWARD, THIS IS NOT THE END ZONE.

THIS IS THE KICKOFF.

LIKE WE HAD A LONG, LONG WAY TO GO TO GET THIS RIGHT.

WE HAVE AN A AN AMAZING DESIRE TO GET THINGS RIGHT REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU READ ON GUCCI LIVING.

UM, SO I JUST WANT TO, TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT AGAIN, NO MATTER HOWEVER THIS GOES, UM, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE DONE UNTIL WE WORK TO GET THIS RIGHT.

MAY, MAY, I JUST, I WANT TO GO BACK TO MR. PETERSON TO ONE COMMENT.

I WANT THE COMMUNITY, I'VE TALKED TO OTHER PEOPLE BESIDES YOU ALL TONIGHT, BUT I WANT THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW WHAT HE TALKED ABOUT, THE PORT AND AND, UH, HAMPTON ROADS AND THE PORT AND, AND THE PANAMA.

IT SOUNDS ABSTRACT AND OUT THERE, BUT IT'S VERY REAL.

OUR SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION AT OUR, AT OUR ANNUAL TRANSPORTATION MEETING, AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE SO GETTING SO MORE INVOLVED IN TRANSPORTATION THAN WE EVER HAVE BEFORE BECAUSE YOUR TAX MONEY IS GOING TO THESE REGIONAL PROJECTS.

BUT GOVERNOR YIN AND, AND THE SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION ARE ASKING FOR 125 MILLION COMMITMENT FROM THE REGION TO TO, TO PITCH INTO AN 800 MILLION PROJECT, TO COMPLETE 64 WIDENING THROUGH, MAINLY THROUGH NEW KENTON INTO JAMES CITY COUNTY.

BUT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE THINGS FOR THE REGION, AND IF WE WANT TO GROW OUR TARGETED AREAS IN GOLAND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE REGION, WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN A WAY, AND, AND, AND THIS IS YOUR TAX MONEY TOO, THAT IS GOING INTO THESE REGIONAL EFFORTS.

SO WE ARE, GIN IS INCLUDED IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS OF, OF THAT HAMPTON ROADS, RICHMOND, VIRGINIA TIE IN.

SO THIS DISTRIBUTION CENTER JUST SEEMS TO FIT AS, AS MR AGAIN, I'M REPEATING WHAT MR. PETERSON SAID, BUT THAT'S, I I HOPE THAT'S ENCOURAGING TO YOU BECAUSE WE ALSO WE'RE, WE'RE DOING OUR VILLAGE PLANS AND, AND SOMEBODY SAID EARLY IN THE COMMENTS HOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE BEING DELIBERATE AND CAREFUL.

WE ARE, AND WE'RE REALLY A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE RURAL FEEL KEEPING GIN RURAL AND NOT, AND NOT TURNING IT INTO SHORT PUMP, PARTICULARLY ON THE CENTERVILLE SIDE.

BUT HERE, WHERE I REPRESENT IN THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

HOW DO, HOW DO WE, UM, AND HOW DO WE GROW THIS IN A MANNER THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE LOVE ABOUT GOLIN? SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE'RE LOSING SIGHT OF REPRESENTING YOU ALL.

WELL, UM, WITH THIS, IT, IT, IT SEEMS IT'S A HALF A MILE FROM THE INTERSTATE.

UM, IT'S ACROSS FROM A QUARRY, TWO QUARRIES AND IT'S BEHIND A CENTER.

I WILL SAY I'M, I'M ANXIOUS AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SMALL BUSINESS CONCERN.

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I HONESTLY THOUGHT SMALL BUSINESSES, PARTICULAR RETAIL, I THINK SOMEBODY SPOKE THAT WAS FROM A RETAIL AND THEY, THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT.

AND I LIKE THAT, THAT CONCERNS ME.

AND I'LL OBVIOUSLY BE TALKING TO OUR STAFF AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM.

WE HAVE A GREAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAT STAYS ENGAGED WITH EXISTING BUSINESSES.

UH, WE WANT TO STAY INVOLVED IN THIS.

AND, AND I CAN'T IMAGINE, I, I'M PUZZLED HOW A THOUSAND EMPLOYEES COMING TO TOWN IS GONNA HURT RETAIL, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED, WE NEED TO STAY AFTER IT AND CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS AS WE GO FORWARD.

THANK YOU FOR LITTLE YOU'RE WELCOME MR. SHARP.

COMMON FIFTH.

EVERYTHING'S GONNA SIT.

UM, BUT, UM, JUST TO REITERATE FEW THINGS, UM, AS MR. SPOON HOWER INDICATED, SEVERAL OF US HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH, UH, STATE, STATE REPRESENTATIVES WHO COMMERCE, TRANSPORTATION PEOPLE AT THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

AND ONE THING THAT COMES THROUGH IS IF YOU ARE WAITING FOR ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, YOU'LL NEVER SEE 'EM.

YOU THINK THAT THIS IS GONNA BE DONE BY 2040.

IT PROBABLY WON'T.

IF THERE'S NOT A PRESSING NEED, THERE'S ALWAYS A PRESSING NEED SOMEPLACE ELSE THAT'S MORE PRESSING THAN YOURS.

SO I HAVE HAD OVER TOURS INDICATING THAT THIS, THESE THINGS WILL GET DONE.

WE WILL WORK WITH YOU, WE WILL HELP YOU.

UH, SOME OF IT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO OURSELVES AND SOME OF IT'LL COME OUT OF THE ECONOMIC BENEFIT OF, OF THIS PROJECT.

BUT I APPRECIATE IT ALL MAKES SENSE THAT WE SIT HERE AND SAY, DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND THEN BACKFILL WITH THE BUSINESS.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO TRANSPORTATION, THAT DOESN'T WORK IN VIRGINIA.

IT DOESN'T WORK IN ANY OTHER STATE.

THE PRESSING, THERE'S NEVER GONNA BE ENOUGH MONEY FOR, FOR ROADS.

UM, EXCEPT FOR NORTH CAROLINA.

THOSE PEOPLE, IT'S CONSTANTLY BUILDING ROADS, BUT THEIR TAXES REFLECT IT TOO.

BUT EVERYWHERE THE PRESSING NEEDS ARE, WHAT, WHAT GETS THE ATTENTION? UM, AGAIN, IT DOES FIT THE COMP PLAN.

UM, IN TERMS OF MUTUAL AID.

YEAH, I HAD TALKED WITH THE CH, UH, CHIEF ABOUT A, UH, A STATION FURTHER OUT AND HE SAID, YOU DON'T PUT STATIONS IN THE CORNER OF THE COUNTY BECAUSE YOU'VE EXCLUDED REACHING VAST NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

YOU PUT THEM MORE WITHIN THE RADIUS, YOU PUT 'EM IN CENTRAL RADIUS.

UM, WILL THERE BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC THERE? WILL, UM, DO PEOPLE IGNORE, UH, SIRENS WHEN THEY COME THROUGH? NOT TYPICALLY ALL THE, ALL THE STOPLIGHTS AND UH, GIN NOW HAVE THE, UH, SYSTEM WHERE IT TURNS RED AS THEY'RE APPROACHING.

SO THAT HAPPENS.

RESPONSE TIMES IN OUR COUNTY ARE VERY GOOD.

UM, IS IT GOOD FOR GLAND? I KNOW PEOPLE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA DON'T THINK IT IS, BUT THERE'S 25,000 RESIDENTS OF GLAND WE KEEP TRYING TO GET.

WE ARE 85% RESIDENTIAL, 15%, UH, COMMERCIAL AND OUR REVENUE, WE KEEP TRYING TO BRING THAT DOWN SOME BECAUSE IT'S MORE HEALTHY FOR A COUNTY.

WE STARTED BRINGING IT DOWN AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN INTEREST RATES GOT LOW AND ALL THESE PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN APPROVED BACK IN THE MID 2005 SIX THAT NEVER GOT DONE THROUGH THE HOUSING PROBLEM, ALL OF A SUDDEN WITH LOW INTEREST RATES, THEY STARTED GETTING BUILT.

SO, UH, THAT SKEWED OUR NUMBERS AND WE'RE GOING IN IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO BALANCE OUT THAT REVENUE TO MAKE GUC LEND A HEALTHIER FINANCIAL, UH, HEALTHIER COUNTY FINANCIALLY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF, OF OF EMAILS, A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF IT, I KNOW ALL OF YOU AREN'T, YOU'RE THE ONES THAT ALWAYS SHOW UP AND THAT'S A GOOD THING IN THIS INSTANCE.

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I JUST, I THINK IT, WHEN YOU GO THROUGH AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE FACTS, I THINK THIS ULTIMATELY IS GONNA BE A, A WINNER FOR GIN COUNTY.

AND EVEN THOUGH POUNCEY TRACK IS NOT IN GLAND, I'VE HAD A LOT OF CALLS PEOPLE SAYING, CAN'T YOU GET SOMETHING DONE AT STOPLIGHT AT P TRACK AND ASON ROAD? I SAY, WITH ALL THE INFLUENCE I HAVE WITH OUR FORMER COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WHO LEFT TO GO TO HANOVER, I'M SURE WE'LL GET THAT DONE RIGHT AWAY, BUT THAT INTERSECTION IS IN HANOVER COUNTY AND I DON'T THINK WE HOLD A LOT OF, OF, UH, INFLUENCE WITH THEM.

SO, UH, THAT'S GONNA BE A, A TOUGH SELL.

UM, AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD OVER WHATEVER ELSE COVERED.

UM, COMMENT MORE ON THE PROCEDURE HERE.

UM, THIS, I THINK HAS WORKED GENERALLY THE WAY THINGS SHOULD.

WE HAVE THREE PUBLIC MEETINGS ON EACH OF THESE REZONINGS AND CUS A COMMUNITY MEETING, A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND A MEETING HERE AND THE CITIZENS THAT COME OUT TO TALK AND VOICE THEIR CONCERNS ALL ALONG THAT WAY HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THIS APPLICATION.

THERE'S BEEN SIGNIFICANT CHANGES BECAUSE OF CITIZEN INPUT.

THERE'S A NO LEFT, NO TRUCK, LEFT TURN, SIGN BEING PUT IN.

THERE'S A TRAFFIC LIGHT ON THE EASTBOUND BEING PUT IN.

THERE'S A RIGHT TURN LANE ON THE WESTBOUND.

ALL THESE CHANGES CAME UP THROUGH THE PROCESS WHERE THE APPLICANT WAS LISTENING TO WHAT THE CITIZENS WERE SAYING.

AND THAT'S A HEALTHY PROCESS AND, AND IT'S WORKING PRETTY MUCH THE WAY IT SHOULD REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME AND THE DECISION.

THE PROCESS ITSELF IS A HEALTHY ONE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO CONTINUE TO STAY ENGAGED AND INVOLVED CUZ YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

AND YOU'VE SEEN THAT IN THIS APPLICATION THERE'S MATERIAL CHANGES BECAUSE CITIZENS HAVE GOTTEN INVOLVED.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT'S IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UH, ZERO SEVEN BY PDC TN, F L L P I V LLC, UM, AS PRESENTED.

BOARD.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MR. CARPENTER? ROLL CALL.

BOARD, WE HAVE TWO MORE.

WE HAVE ANOTHER, UH, VOTE TO TAKE WITH THE C U P.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE C 20 22 7 REQUESTING CONDITION USED PERMIT.

MR. I, I'LL HOPE FOR THE MOTION WE'LL TAKE A TWO MINUTE RECESS SO FOLKS CAN FILE OUT IF THEY LIKE, WAS JUST TRYING TO, OKAY, WELL, WE'LL GO BACK.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION CU 2022,

[4. 5450: District 4 - CU-2022-00007 Application by PDC TN/FL LPIV, LLC]

SECOND, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY DISCUSSION? THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY ON THIS IS, IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT CAME UP WAS THAT OUR LADDER TRUCKS ONLY REACHED TO A HUNDRED FEET.

I HAVE SPOKEN WITH, WITH CHIEF, AND THIS IS NOT AN UNCOMMON OCCURRENCE TO HAVE SYSTEMS WITHIN THE BUILDINGS.

THERE ARE SEVERAL, UH, BUILDINGS ALL OVER THE REGION THAT LADDER TRUCKS CAN'T REACH.

UM, SO THERE ARE,

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UH, THERE ARE SOLUTIONS AND BUYER SUPPRESSION, UH, SYSTEMS THAT TAKE CARE OF THAT.

AND I I KNOW THE CHIEF WILL BE ENGAGED IN WORKING ON THAT.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT COMMENT.

WORLD TRADE CENTER.

ANY, UH, ROLL CALL VOTE.

BOARD, WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.

WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE A, TAKE A BREATHER OR JUST GET RIGHT INTO IT? ANOTHER 62ND BREAK.

ALL RIGHT, MS. MCGEE.

OF THE BOARD, UM, MR. CARPENTER, MS. VASQUEZ, I WILL BE BRIEF BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IS, UH, REQUEST FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND OUR PROCUREMENT ORDINANCE IS BASED ON NEW LAWS THAT WERE PASSED IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN 2022.

MEMBERS

[5. 5431: Ordinance amending County Code Sections 11-27 (Competitive sealed]

UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A CHAPTER IN OUR COUNTY CODE FOR PROCUREMENT AND THERE ARE TIMES THAT WE ARE OBLIGATED TO, UH, CHANGE OUR PROCUREMENT ORDINANCES BASED ON CHANGES IN STATE LAW AND THEN OTHERS WHERE WE HAVE SOME CHOICE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.

THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT TOPICS.

ONE ARE CHANGES THAT AFFECT OUR BID BONDS, PERFORMANCE BONDS AND PAYMENT BONDS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECTS.

AND IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW, WE ARE OBLIGATED TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.

THE SECOND PIECE BEFORE YOU HAS TO DO WITH OUR TERM CONTRACTING LIMITS WHEN WE HAVE OUR ON CALL ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING, UH, CONTRACTS.

SO OUR, WE ENTER INTO RIGHT NOW ABOUT EVERY, UH, FOUR YEARS AN ON-CALL ARCHITECT AND ENGINEERING CONTRACTS WITH THREE TO FOUR DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT CAN THEN DO WORK FOR US WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH A WHOLE NOTHER PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

UM, WE ARE BEING ASKED OF STAFF SUPPORT.

UH, THE STATE LAW CHANGE THE AMOUNTS THAT COULD BE INCLUDED IN THOSE ON CALL CONTRACTS.

UM, A SINGLE LIMIT PROJECT WOULD INCREASE TO TWO AND A HALF MILLION AND THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS OVER THE CONTRACT TERM WOULD GO TO 10 MILLION.

WHILE THOSE ARE BIG NUMBERS THAT ALLOWS WITH SOME OF THE PROJECTS COMING UP, THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE ON CALL, UH, ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS WHO'VE ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS TO USE THEIR SERVICES.

THOSE CONTRACTS DO COME BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL AT THE END.

THIS WOULD SIMPLY BE TO ALLOW THEM TO GO FORWARD USING THE ON-CALL CONTRACT INSTEAD OF A SEPARATE PROCUREMENT.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IN THE ORDINANCES, NOT A STAFF ASK THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE THOSE AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. MCGEE? THIS LAST CLASS, UM, MS. MCGEE, DOES ANY OF THIS APPLY TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION WITH, UH, UM, I'M THINKING OF ABOUT BIDDING ON CONTRACTS? YEAH.

I'M NOT SURE IF THEY FOLLOW OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESSES OR IF THEY FOLLOW THE STATE PROCUREMENT.

SO IT, WELL, WE'RE FOLLOWING OUR ORDINANCE CHANGE DOESN'T, BUT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO FALL UNDER THE STATE.

IN OTHER WORDS, THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN PROCUREMENT.

SO THESE CHANGES BECAME THEIR CHANGES BECAUSE THEY CHANGED STATE LAW.

BRING OUR PROCUREMENT, UH, PROVISIONS IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.

AND BECAUSE THEY CHANGED STATE LAW, WE'RE NOW COMING IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.

YES, MA'AM.

SO YOU'RE THINKING WE'RE ALL GONNA BE DOING STATE LAW? THAT'S CORRECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? OKAY, NOW I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

JONATHAN, ALLOW 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.

UH, LIKE MR. PETERSON, I ALWAYS LIKE IT WHEN WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.

SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD THING, BUT THIS IS REALLY, AND I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE DISCUSSIONS, BUT HOW DO PEOPLE GET ON THAT ON CALL LIST? I'M ASSUMING THERE IS A VETTING PROCESS AND ALL OF THAT.

AND, AND I'LL HAVE TO RESEARCH THAT LATER, BUT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU AS BOARD MEMBERS KNOW THAT ANSWER, I'M GOING TO BE VERY COMFORTABLE IN SLEEP WELL TONIGHT, BUT IT, IT IS, YOU'RE GONNA BE CALLING PEOPLE THAT SOMEHOW GOT ON A LIST AND I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE IS A BONAFIDE PROCESS FOR DOING THAT.

AND THEY'RE BONDED AND THEY'RE REPUTABLE AND BRIDGEWATER GRADUATES AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO .

ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO NOT NONE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BOARD MOTION.

MR. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, BUT I WANNA MAKE A CLARIFICATION FIRST.

UM, THE MOTION WOULD BE TO, UH,

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BUT YOU MENTIONED DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS COULD BE DIFFERENT DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND STILL COMPLY WITH STATE LAW.

IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR.

SO, SO SIMPLY COMPLYING WITH STATE LAW WOULDN'T SET THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS, WOULD IT? I MEAN, WE DO IT.

SO IS IT AS PRESENTED WITH THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS INCLUDED IN THE MOTION? IT'S AS PRESENTED, YES.

THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS REQUESTING OF YOU.

OKAY, THEN I'LL TRY AND MAKE THAT MOTION.

UM, RIGHT, WELL I MOVED THAT THE GSON COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE AMENDING GSON COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 11 TO ALIGN WITH THE COUNTY'S TO ALIGN THE COUNTY'S PROCUREMENT PROVISIONS WITH STATE LAW UPDATES ENACTED BY THE 2022 VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY AS PRESENTED.