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GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY, AND WELCOME
[II. 2:00 PM - Call to Order]
TO THE GUTEN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DECEMBER SIX, 2:00 PM BUSINESS MEETING.WE ARE VERY GLAD THAT YOU ARE WITH US TODAY.
UM, WE ARE, WE WILL START OUR MEETING LIKE WE ALWAYS DO WITH OUR INVOCATION, UH, BY, UH, PASTOR BOBBY BOYD WITH VICTORY CHRISTIAN CHURCH, UH, AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY VICE CHAIR LUMPKINS.
THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
[III. Invocation]
HEAVENLY FATHER, THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE GATHERED HERE TODAY.UM, I JUST THANK YOU FOR THIS WONDERFUL COUNTY THAT WE GET TO LIVE IN.
UM, I JUST ASK THAT YOU'LL GUIDE OUR HEARTS AND OUR MINDS TODAY, AND I THANK YOU FOR OUR NATION AS WELL, LORD, AND I JUST ASK THAT YOU WILL JUST HELP US DURING THESE TIMES AND, AND GUIDE OUR NATION TO PROSPERITY IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
[IV. Pledge of Allegiance]
AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.UM, RIGHT NOW WE ARE GONNA DO A PRESENTATION OF A RE RESOLUTION
[V. Presentation of Resolution of Recognition to Mr. Robin Lind]
AND RECOGNITION OF MR. ROBIN LIN.SO MR. LIN, IF YOU'LL MEET ME DOWN FRONT IN SCHITZ, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, READ THE RESOLUTION, WHEREAS IT IS THE DESIRE OF THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS GIVE APPROPRIATE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND RECOGNITION TO ROBIN ARLIN, WHO HAS RENDERED INVALUABLE SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF GUC COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS MR. LYNN HAS SERVED FAITHFULLY AS A MEMBER OF THE GUC COUNTY ELECTORAL BOARD FOR 20 YEARS, BEGINNING HIS TENURE IN MARCH OF 2002.
AND WHEREAS DURING HIS TENURE, MR. LYNN HELD THE ROLES OF CHAIR, VICE, CHAIR AND SECRETARY.
MR. LYNN ALSO REPRESENTED THE RESIDENTS OF GLAND COUNTY AS PRESIDENT OF THE VIRGINIA ELECTORAL BOARD, WHERE HE IS STILL AN ACTIVE VOICE.
AND WHEREAS MR. LYNN KEPT THE RESIDENTS OF GUC COUNTY, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE ELECTORAL BOARD MEMBERS INFORMED ON NEW LAWS AND CHANGES TO EXISTING STATE CODES BY FREQUENTLY ENGAGING WITH THE MEMBERS AND STAFF OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE IMPACT OF SUCH LAWS AND CHANGES TO VOTERS AND VOTING RIGHTS.
AND WHEREAS DURING MR. LYNN'S TENURE, GLAND COUNTY WAS THE FIRST COUNTY TO SUCCESSFULLY PERFORM AN AUDIT OF ELECTION RESULTS TO CONFIRM AND AUTHENTICATE THE TOTALS FROM THE VOTING MACHINE TO THE MANUAL COUNT OF THE BALLOTS.
AND WHEREAS MR. LYNN HAS CONSISTENTLY SERVED GLAND COUNTY CITIZENS, GUCCI COUNTY ELECTORAL BOARD, AND FELLOW PROFESSIONALS WITH RESPECT AND SOUND ADVICE.
AND WHEREAS THE GUC COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL SINCERELY MISS THE DEDICATED SERVICE MR. LYNN PROVIDED OVER THE PAST 20 YEARS.
AND WHEREAS MR. LYNN WILL END HIS SERVICE AS VICE CHAIR OF THE GUCCI AND COUNTY ELECTORAL BOARD ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2022.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE GUCCI COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS AND STAFF HEREBY RECOGNIZES AND SINCERELY THANKS ROBIN ARLIN FOR HIS
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SERVICE, LEADERSHIP AND COMMITMENT WHILE SERVING THE RESIDENTS OF GLAND COUNTY AND FURTHERMORE OFFERS BEST WISHES FOR HIM IN THE FUTURE.MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS READ.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
I DO WANNA SAY, AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL SAY A FEW WORDS, UM, THERE, THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE THAT I WOULD CATEGORIZE AS A CONSUMMATE GENTLEMAN AND, UM, MEETING MR. LYNN FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HEARING HOW TO ACTUALLY PRONOUNCE THE COUNTY TO OUR NORTH LOUISA HAS BEEN SOMETHING I'VE ENJOYED VERY GREATLY.
AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ONE OF THE MOST, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE DO IN THIS COUNTRY FOR YOU, PRESERVING THAT.
THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING GOING ON TODAY, AND I APPRECIATE VERY MUCH THE, THIS SIGN OF RECOGNITION FROM MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD ALL BUT ONE OF WHOM HOLDS HIS OR HER OFFICE ON THE BASIS OF MY SIGNATURE, CERTIFYING YOUR ELECTION
MY SIGNATURE HAS BEEN MY PROMISE TO GO TO PRISON IF THOSE RESULTS WERE NOT ACCURATE AND IF THE ELECTION WAS NOT FREE, FAIR AND TRANSPARENT PARENT.
I KNOW NOT WHAT OTHERS MAY DO, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN GLAND COUNTY, YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT YOU ARE THE LEGITIMATE REPRESENTATIVES OF YOUR DISTRICTS DULY ELECTED BY THE VOTERS OF THE COUNTY THAT YOU ARE.
AND I AM UNAWARE OF THIS BOARD EVERY GIVING PUBLIC RECOGNITION TO A DEPARTING MEMBER OF THE ELECTORAL BOARD.
AND SO I'M HUMBLED AND GRATEFUL.
20 YEARS IS A LONG TIME, BUT I WOULD POINT OUT THAT MY PREDECESSOR, WHOSE SEAT FILLED RUSSELL HESTER SERVED FOR 27 YEARS AND DIED IN OFFICE, AND HIS COLLEAGUE PAULINE S SERVED FOR 26 YEARS.
WE HAVE A HISTORY OF SERVING AS LONG AS WE CAN.
NOW, MINE REACHES BACK TO THE QUOTE FROM ISAAC NEWTON.
IF I HAVE SEEN FURTHER THAN OTHERS, IT'S ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE STOOD ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS.
SOME OF THOSE GIANTS ARE DIRECTLY BEHIND ME.
I'D ASK YOU TO RECOGNIZE FRANCIS RAGLAND AND TONY HOLCOMB, WHO WERE IN OFFICE WHEN I CAME INTO OFFICE.
AND SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO ACCEPT THIS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE ELECTORAL BOARD, THE GENERAL REGISTRAR RYAN MULLIGAN IN HIS DEPUTIES, SHANNON GRAYSON AND LEANNE WHITE AND ALL OF OUR OFFICERS OF ELECTION, BECAUSE YOUR RECOGNITION REALLY RECOGNIZES THEIR ACHIEVEMENT.
AND YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE OFFICERS OF ELECTION IN YOUR OWN DISTRICT.
BUT I'D LIKE YOU TO BE RECOGNIZING THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF PEOPLE IN, IN EVERY DISTRICT AND MISS LAS COLETTE.
THE WORK THAT'S DONE IN, IN YOUR DISTRICT, DISTRICT ONE IS BY CHIEF SHIRLEY CHRISTIAN, A CHURCH SEXTON AND FORMER MEMBER OF THE ELECTORAL BOARD, ALSO BY CHIEF ROBIN BRYCE, WHO'S AN ACCOUNTING PROJECT MANAGER.
AND SHE HAS SERVED AS AN OFFICER OF ELECTION IN FIVE FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS IN DISTRICT TWO.
MR. UH, SPOONER, THE WORK'S BEING LED BY THREE SQUARED.
CHIEF KEITH FLANIGAN, ANOTHER FORMER MEMBER OF THE ELECTORAL BOARD CONSTRUCTION ENGINEER, AND BY SANDY HOOK, CHIEF SHAUNA SPROUSE, UH, SUPPORT SPECIALIST WITH CAPITAL ONE.
THE WORK'S BEING DONE BY BEAVER DAM, CHIEF YVETTE MCDERMOTT THOMAS, AN IRAQ WAR VETERAN WHO STILL CARRIES SHRAPNEL TODAY.
AND RANDOLPH CHIEF LARRY FINNEGAN, WHO'S A FORMER CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATE, MR. V IN THE FOURTH DISTRICT.
THE WORK'S BEING DONE BY SHALLOW CHIEF CALEB FISHER, WHO JOINED US AS A TEENAGER IN HIGH SCHOOL WHEN WE WERE CONVERTING TO ELECTRONIC POLL BOOKS.
AND THANK GOD WE HAD SOME TEENAGERS,
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AND ALSO BY CENTERVILLE CHIEF PAT BOWLING, A DRIVER WITH THE GLAND TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.AND I'M SURE YOU'RE NOW AWARE THAT DON SHARP, YOUR PREDECESSOR, WAS ALSO A, AN OFFICER OF ELECTION AND ASSISTANT CHIEF AT SHALLOW BEFORE I BECAME A SUPERVISOR, MR. PETERSON IN DISTRICT FIVE.
THE WORK WAS DONE BY MANNEQUIN CHIEF URSULA HUBER, A CAREER ARMY SIGNALS OFFICER, AND BY BLAIR CHIEF DANIEL THOMPSON, A SHEEP AND CATTLE FARMER, THESE CITIZEN PATRIOTS FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE, UNITED BY THEIR LOVE OF COUNTRY, LOVE OF OUR CONSTITUTION AND LOVE OF CIVIL SERVICE, CIVIC SERVICE.
IT'S BEEN MY PLEASURE AND MY IMMENSE HONOR TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE CITIZENS OF GLAND.
AND THEIR SCORES OF PREDECESSORS, SERS, HIS DEDICATION AND INTEGRITY HAVE INSPIRED THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE TURNOUT AMONG VOTERS ALL ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH YEAR AFTER YEAR.
AND I TAKE MY LEAVE OF YOU WITH THE MOST PROFOUND CONVICTION THAT DEMOCRACY IS STRONG AND FLOURISHING IN GLAND, AND THAT THERE'S THE BROADEST COMMITMENT AMONG BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES TO SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.
YOU ARE IN GOOD HANDS, AND I'M GRATEFUL TO HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO SERVE THESE PEOPLE THAT I HAVE BECOME, THAT I HAVE COME TO RESPECT AND TO LOVE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, MUCH FOR EVERYTHING, MR. LINDON.
THAT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH ACT TO FOLLOW.
[VI. Chair's Comments]
ALL RIGHT, NOW IS THE TIME FOR MY COMMENTS.UM, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO, UH, BELIEVE THAT IT'S THE FINAL MEANING OF, OF THIS BODY FOR 2022.
THE TIME HAS JUST BLOWN BY IT IS BEEN THE HONOR LIT.
IT'S NOT OVERSTATING TO SAY IT'S BEEN THE HONOR OF MY LIFE REPRESENTING THIS BOARD AS THE CHAIR.
AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, I'VE DONE THE MOST CHALLENGING AND THE MOST REWARDING WORK THAT I'VE DONE IN MY CAREER.
UM, IT MEANS THE TRUST, IT MEANS THE WORLD TO ME THAT YOU WOULD TRUST ME, UH, WITH THIS.
AND I HOPE THAT THROUGHOUT THIS YEAR I HAVE, I HAVE EARNED YOUR TRUST.
A FEW HIGHLIGHTS OF THE YEAR, UM, I WORKING CLOSELY WITH MR. SHARP ON HIRING OUR EXCELLENT COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
WE WAIT A LONG TIME FOR YOU TO GET HERE, MR. CARPENTER, BUT WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE.
AND, UM, WE HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUDGET SEASON ADDING NEW, UH, PEOPLE THIS PUBLIC SAFETY AND, AND, AND SUPPORTING EDUCATION.
WE PURCHASED LAND TO PUT THE BADLY NEEDED, UH, FIRE STATION IN DISTRICT TWO.
UH, I PUT MY NAME ON 50 MILLION IN BONDS.
UM, THAT WASN'T AT ALL INTIMIDATING.
UM, I WOULD SAY THAT CHAIRING THE, THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR PROJECT ROCKY WAS PROBABLY THE MOST MENTALLY CHALLENGING THINGS I'VE DONE AND WALKED OUTTA HERE MENTALLY EXHAUSTED.
BUT I THINK IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL OUTCOME.
UM, WE WORKED WITH EIGHT OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO AGREE TO MOVE FUNDS FROM A PROJECT THAT BENEFITS HENRICO, CHESTERFIELD, AND P GIN TO A PROJECT THAT, UH, SUPPORTS MOSTLY GIN AND OUR SMART SCALE APPLICATION.
I WAS PROUD TO SEE THAT THE COUNTY AWARDED 58 MILLION IN THE REGIONAL POOL OF C B T FUNDS.
AND WHILE WE HAD TO ENDURE THE TRAGIC PASSING OF OUR COLLEAGUE DON SHARP, WHO WE WILL HONOR THIS EVENING, WE, WE SUCCESSFULLY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND FOUND A VERY STRONG COLLEAGUE AND MR. OTS TO FINISH OUT.
EVERY, EVERY ONE OF THESE THINGS I'VE TOUCHED ON, I WAS JUST A SMALL PART IN, SO TO THE STAFF OF GUCCI COUNTY, I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WITH ME, YOUR PROFESSIONALISM AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO PUT THE CITIZENS ABOVE ALL ELSE.
AND TO MY EXCELLENT COLLEAGUES, UH, THANK YOU FOR BEING THE BEST PARTNERS I COULD HAVE ASKED FOR.
WE WORK AS A TEAM AND WHAT I'M MOST PROUD OF IS THERE WERE SEVERAL TIMES THIS YEAR WHERE WE COULD HAVE HAD THE CHOICE TO DO THE OKAY.
EASY THING OR THE HARD RIGHT THING.
AND IN A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE CASES, THIS BOARD CHOSE TO DO THE HARD RIGHT THING.
AND I'M PROUD TO BE PART OF THAT TEAM.
SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME BE IN THIS CHAIR FOR THIS YEAR.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'VE GOT A FEW BRIEF THINGS TO GO OVER WITH
[VII. County Administrator's Comments]
YOU IS, YOU MAY RECALL THIS PAST WEEK WAS A BUSY WEEK IN THE COUNTY.ON A FRIDAY WE HAD OUR OWN A MADE FOR HALLMARK MOMENT WITH THE LIGHTING OF OUR CHRISTMAS TREE.
IT WAS A GREAT EVENT IF YOU MADE IT OUT THERE.
OVER 800 PEOPLE WERE IN ATTENDANCE.
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BETWEEN GOLIM COUNTY, UH, THE Y M C A AND THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY AND THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.UH, AND ALSO AS PART OF THAT, IF YOU WERE THERE, YOU SAW IT TOWARD THE END OF IT.
UH, EVERY YEAR, DURING THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER, COUNTY EMPLOYEES WORK TOGETHER TO RAISE FUNDS FOR OUR CHRISTMAS MOTHER PROGRAM.
AND, UH, DURING THE TREE LIGHTING, WE PRESENTED A CHECK, UH, TO OUR CHRISTMAS MOTHER, MS. GRACE CREASY, AND A CHECK FROM ACCOUNTING EMPLOYEES FOR A $3,255 THAT WENT TOWARDS THAT.
UH, THE VERY NEXT DAY, UH, WE HAD A DIFFERENT EVENT, BUT JUST AS IMPORTANT TO THE LIFE OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WE HAD A TIRE AMNESTY AND DOCUMENT SHREDDING.
AND THOUGH IT WAS, UH, NOT THE BEST WEATHER THAT DAY, UH, WE HAD OVER THREE FULL TRAILERS OF TIRES AND OVER THREE TONS OF SHREDDED DOCUMENTS THAT WE COLLECTED THAT DAY.
UH, NOW WHO KEEPS TIRES IN THE GARAGE STILL? I DON'T KNOW, BUT APPARENTLY THE THREE TRAILERS WORTH WERE COLLECTED THAT DAY.
SO THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOUR EMPLOYEES AND YOUR COUNTY HAS BEEN DOING FOR YOU.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
BOARD, ANY REQUEST TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES IN THE ORDER OF
[VIII. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the]
PRESENTATION? I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE ONE.UM, SIR, IF I COULD, UH, I'D LIKE TO, UH, PROPOSE THAT WE CHANGE THE ORDER OF PRESENTATION.
UM, ITEM NUMBER ONE, UNDER NEW BUSINESS, UM, NEW BUSINESSES, NUMBER 13, ROMAN NUMERAL 13.
UM, FIRST ITEM, PRESENTATION OF FISCAL YEAR 2022, ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT BY THE COUNTY'S EXTERNAL AUDITORS.
I'D PROPOSE THAT WE MOVE THAT FROM NEW BUSINESS, UM, TO OUR FIRST REPORT UNDER ROMAN NUMERAL 11, UH, IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING VDOT AND OF CONSIDERATION FOR THE TIME FOR OUR EXTERNAL AUDITOR WHO'S, UM, WITH US THIS EVENING.
ANY OBJECTIONS? CORRECT? YEAH, THE SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO BRING IT FROM, UH, ROMAN NUM 13, NUMBER ONE TO, UH, ROMAN NUMERAL 11, UM, BEFORE NUMBER ONE.
ANY OTHER REQUESTS FOR CHANGE? ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A SET AGENDA.
WE WILL NOW MOVE INTO OUR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR PEOPLE TO BRING ITEMS NOT ON TODAY'S AGENDA FORWARD.
[IX. Citizen Comment]
AND WE ASK THAT YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE, GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND PLEASE TRY TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.MY NAME IS JOYCE LANE JORDAN, AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MY THREE MINUTES TO SEKOU SHABAKA.
UH, CHAIRMAN SCHON HOUSER, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, DR.
ARLENE SIMMONS IS A PERSON OF NOTE.
SHE IS A MOTHER TEACHER EDUCATOR, RETIRED PASTOR OF THEOLOGIAN, DOCTORATE DEGREE IN THEOLOGY, AND SHE HAS A SECOND DOCTORATE DEGREE.
SHE PURCHASED, UH, 151 ACRES ADJACENT TO ROYAL OAKS SUBDIVISION, A VISION.
SHE, HER GOAL IS TO ESTABLISH A SORT OF MEMORIAL, A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND REFLECT ON THEIR LOSSES FROM COVID, FROM CANCER AND FROM CRIME.
SEPTEMBER 21ST, SHE HAD A GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY.
SHE INVITED THE TOP OFFICIALS OF THE COUNTY.
UM, NO ONE CAME, UM, CHAIRMAN SPOON HOUSER, MR. VIC CARPENTER AND SUSAN LALO, SHE'S IN THE FIRST DISTRICT IN THAT PROPERTY, IS HER, IS IN HER DISTRICT.
THAT MORNING OF SEPTEMBER 21ST, IN TERMS OF PEOPLE COMING INTO THE OLD CLUBHOUSE, BECAUSE IT WAS PROPERTY WHERE THE, UH, GOLF COURSE WAS, THE ROADS WERE BLOCKED.
AND ON THIRD PARTY, I DIDN'T WITNESS THAT, BUT IT'S DOCUMENTED, AND IF IT, IF WE NEED TO PROVE IT, WE CAN.
WHITE PEOPLE, PASSENGERS AND THEIR CARS WERE ASKED NOT TO GO TO THE, UH, CEREMONY THAT DIDN'T LAST LONG.
AND THE BARRIERS WERE REMOVED.
WHEN THE CONTINGENT OF THE SHRINE OF THE BLACK MADONNA CAME THROUGH, THERE WERE NO BARRIERS, BUT THERE WERE UGLY SIGNS, SIGNS THAT SAID RESIDENTIAL, NOT COMMERCIAL SIGNS THAT SAID, NO ONE ASKED US AND SIGNS THAT SAID, WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE, NOR DOES THE ADMINISTRATION OF GOON COUNTY WANT YOU HERE.
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IN ADDITION TO THAT, BEFORE SEPTEMBER 21ST, SHE WAS REPAIRING.THERE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM COUNTY GOVERNMENT THAT CAME OUT THAT TOLD HER SHE NEEDED A BUILDING PERMIT.
THE CONTRACTOR THAT WAS REPAIRING THE ROOF HAS BEEN IN GOLAND FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
HE SAID HE HAD NEVER BEEN ASKED, NOR HIS CUSTOMER HAD NEVER BEEN ASKED FOR A BILLING PERMIT ON A ROOF REPAIR.
IT WAS A DECK ONTO THE OLD CLUBHOUSE.
THERE WAS ANOTHER REPRESENTATIVE WHO CAME AND SAID SHE NEEDED A BILLING PERMIT TO DETACH THE DECK.
AND HERE AGAIN, NO ONE HAD BEEN ASKED BEFORE FOR A BILLING PERMIT TO DO THAT.
I THINK THAT THAT NIGHT AFTER THE MEETING, EVEN THE MAILMAN GOT IN ON THE SITUATION, HE CAME AND TOLD HER THAT HER BOX, HER MAILBOX WAS NOT STANDARD.
AND SHE SAID, WHY IT WASN'T STANDARD FOR THE ROYAL OAKS DIMENSIONS.
AND OF COURSE, SHE RAN THEM OFF.
IF I COULD HAVE A, A MINUTE MORE OR SO, UM, YES SIR, THIS, THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED.
YOU DON'T WELCOME A PERSON TO THE COUNTY THIS WAY.
I'VE SEEN THE SLICK VIDEOS SAYING, BRING YOUR ORGANIZATION TO GOON COUNTY.
THE PASTORIAL SCENES, THE HINTS OF SU IS, OR INCENTIVES FOR, UH, PEOPLE ESTABLISHING THEIR ORGANIZATION IN JERUSALEM COUNTY.
ALSO, SHE WAS SCHEDULED TO MEET WITH, UH, I THINK AT THAT TIME THE PERSON WAS A COUNTY DEVELOPER, COMMUNITY DEVELOPER.
AND WHEN SHE AND HER ASSOCIATE WENT TO MEET WITH THIS PERSON, THERE WERE FOUR WHITE MEN.
THE PERSON THAT SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO MEET WITH STARTED THEIR, UH, NEW JOB THAT SAME DAY.
SO THEY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
MY WORDS OF THIS, I AM NOT PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF A COUNTY THAT WOULD TREAT A PERSON COMING IN TO DO GOOD IN THE MANNER THAT SHE WAS TREATED.
I HAVE BEEN A JURY FOREMAN IN A BIG TIME CIVIL CASE IN SAN FRANCISCO.
I WAS A JURY FOREMAN IN ANOTHER CASE, IN A CIVIL CASE IN COLUMBIA COUNTY, NEW YORK.
I KNOW WHAT THE ISSUES ARE, AND I HAVEN'T DISCUSSED THIS WITH, UH, DR.
I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE A PAPER COMPLAINT FORM TO DR.
SIMMONS SO THAT SHE COULD FILL THAT OUT TO DETERMINE WHO UNLAWFULLY BLOCKED A STATE MAINTAINED ROAD.
I WOULD ALSO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST OF THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE A PAPER COMPLAINT FORM SO SHE COULD FILL THAT OUT TO DETERMINE WHO VANDALIZED HER POVERTY.
IF THE COUNTY DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE SIGN, COUNTY ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT WANT YOU HERE, THEN THERE NEEDS TO BE A PUBLIC REFUTE OF THAT SIGN SAYING THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE.
OTHERWISE, IT WOULD APPEAR JUST FROM THE ACTIONS THAT IT IS TRUE.
MY FINAL WORDS, SHE COULD TAKE, SHE COULD SUE THIS COUNTY AND ALL THOSE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BAD BEHAVIOR FOR INTIMIDATION, BULLYING, HARASSMENT, DAMAGE TO HER REPUTATION, IMPEDING HER ABILITY TO DO
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HER PROJECT OR EVEN MAKE A LIVING.SHE COULD SUE FOR DAMAGES IN A, IN A PROFESSIONAL, IN A PROFESSIONAL POSITION OF THE COUNTY EMPLOYEES AND IN A PERSONAL CAPAC CAPACITY.
AND IF DAMAGES ARE AWARDED, THOSE PERSONS WHO HAVE SHOWN THIS BAD BEHAVIOR WOULD HAVE TO GO INTO THEIR POCKETS AND PAY DR.
SIMMONS, WHICH MEANS THEY ARE AT RISK OF LOSING THEIR HOMES, THE CAUSE, THE PROPERTIES AND THEIR PERSONAL ASSETS.
I FEEL THAT THE COUNTY ATTORNEY SHOULD IN SOME WAY GIVE ORIENTATION TO THE BOARD AND TO THE EMPLOYEES REGARDING THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR THAT COULD LEAD TO LEGAL REDRESS.
BECAUSE IF, IF REDRESS ISN'T GIVEN BY THIS GOVERNMENT, THIS COUNTY, THERE'S NO OTHER OPTION.
SO PLEASE, THIS SHOULD BE A LESSON TO ALL OF US, BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HER CRIME IS.
SHE COMES TO US FULLY QUALIFIED.
MR. SHABAKA, WE DO HAVE TO FINISH UP WANTING TO DO GOOD.
AND THIS IS THE UNWELCOME THAT SHE HAS RECEIVED.
I JUST WANT YOU, YOU TO KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN HEARD.
I'VE LISTENED, AND WE WILL ADDRESS, ESPECIALLY THE FACT THAT I NEVER RECEIVED ANY SUCH INVITATION.
BUT WE WILL GET TO, WE WILL, WE WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF IT.
UM, RYAN MULLIGAN, 2 0 8 WILL WADE DRIVE MANNEQUIN SAVITT, UH, ALSO DIRECTOR OF ELECTIONS AND GENERAL REGISTRAR.
AND I JUST WANTED TO, UH, GIVE A QUICK REPORT OUT ON THE ELECTION FROM NOVEMBER 8TH.
SO ON NOVEMBER 8TH, WE HELD OUR GENERAL ELECTION FOR, UH, MEMBER HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FIFTH DISTRICT OUT OF OUR 20,809 ACTIVE VOTERS, 13,763.
TURNED OUT, UH, TO VOTE, THAT IS A 66% TURNOUT.
THE STATEWIDE NUMBERS ARE NOT IN YET, BUT I AM CONFIDENT THAT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE HIGHEST, IF NOT THE HIGHEST IN THE END.
BOB GOOD WAS THE WINNER RECEIVING 8,706 VOTES OVER JOSHUA THORNBERG'S 5,000, UH, 28 VOTES.
OF COURSE, IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE WITHOUT OUR ELECTION OFFICERS.
WE HAD 73 ELECTION OFFICERS WORKING AT OUR 10 PRECINCTS AND OUR CENTRAL ABSENTEE PRECINCT.
AND LET US NOT FORGET OUR 22 OFFICERS THAT RAN OUR EARLY VOTING SATELLITE FOR THE 45 DAYS OF ABSENTEE VOTING, WE HAD 931 VOTERS VOTE BY MAIL AND A STAGGERING 4,330 VOTERS VOTE EARLY IN PERSON.
AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, AND IF I COULD PASS OUT A COPY OF THIS.
THANK YOU, MR. ME, YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR HIM? NO, NO.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN SPOON, HOWARD TO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS AND MR. CARPENTER.
I'M WENDY HOBBS, AND I LIVE IN SANDY HOOK.
AND I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT MR. SHABAKA TALKED ABOUT.
SIMMONS, IF YOU COULD STAND SO THAT THE BOARD CAN AT LEAST PUT A FACE WITH THE NAME.
AND I DO WANNA JUST MAKE SOME COMMENTS ON HER SITUATION BECAUSE, UM, NUMBER ONE, SHE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY THAT HAD BEEN ON THE MARKET FOR LENGTHY TIME.
ANYONE COULD HAVE PURCHASED IT, BUT PRIOR TO PURCHASING IT, SHE DID HER DUE DILIGENCE IN TALKING WITH COUNTY OFFICIALS ABOUT WHAT SHE COULD AND COULD NOT DO ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND JOANNE HUNTER WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT SHE TALKED TO, AND WE ALL KNOW HOW COMPETENT JOANNE WAS AND TO BELIEVE THAT SHE GAVE INACCURATE INFORMATION, UM, SUCH AS THE NEED FOR PERMITS WHEN SHE SAID IT DIDN'T NEED IT, THEY STARTED THE JOB, AND THEN THE PERMITS ARE NEEDED IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF OUT OF THE CHARACTER OF JOANNE.
JOANNE WAS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE, KNEW THE ZONING CODES AND EVERYTHING VERY WELL.
SO I'M NOT SURE, BUT I DID SEE THE EMAIL LATER FROM HER THAT TRANSPIRED SAYING, YES, YOU OKAY.
AND DOING THE REPAIRS, UM, TO THE BUILDING WITHOUT THE PERMITS, AND THEN LATER COMING BACK AND RETRACTING THAT.
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I WANNA SAY THAT WHEN WE PURCHASED THAT KIND OF PROPERTY, UM, THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FOR OUR COUNTY AND WHAT DR.SHE GAVE A HIGHLIGHT AT THE BREAK, THE, THE, UM, GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY.
AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I WAS DISAPPOINTED.
SO, UM, MR. SPOON, HOW, I HOPE THAT WE FIND OUT WHERE THE GLITCHES WERE.
I DO RECALL SEEING EMAIL FROM JAMIE.
SOMEBODY KNEW YOU ALL GOT CHERRY.
I THINK IT IS, UM, EXPLAINING WHY SHE COULD NOT BE THERE.
BUT THE THOUGHT THAT NO COUNTY OFFICIALS ATTENDED THAT GROUNDBREAKING WHEN I HAVE SEEN SO MANY OF YOU GUYS ATTENDING THESE ACTIVITIES.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO COMMENT ON IS THAT THE HOA APPARENTLY HAD SOME, SOME ISSUES WITH PREVIOUS, UM, PREVIOUS OWNERS.
AND SHE'S BEEN ASKED TO COME TO MEET WITH AN HOA TO TALK ABOUT HER PROPERTY AND THEIR CONCERNS AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH PREVIOUS, UM, OWNERS.
AND CONSIDERING THE SIGNS THAT WERE UP, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH SHE WAS BEING PLACED IN A VERY HOSTILE SITUATION.
SHE HASN'T FILED AN APPLICATION YET, SO I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHERE THE COUNTY SHOULD EVEN BE IN THIS MATTER UNTIL SHE FILES HER APPLICATION SAYING WHAT SHE IS DOING.
BUT THE ONE THING THAT I DO WANNA SAY IS THAT, UM, OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT DR.
SIMMONS BE GIVEN THE SAME RESPECT, COOPERATION, ASSISTANCE, IT'S GIVEN TO ANYONE THAT COMES IN GUC COUNTY TO DO BUSINESS.
AND RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT SURE IF THAT HAS TRANSPIRED.
I THINK THERE MAY BE SOME MISCOMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER EMPLOYEES PASSING OUT INFORMATION.
WE NEED TO GET TO THE, THE ROOT OF WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE AND IDENTIFY THEM BECAUSE WE WANT DR.
WE WANT WHAT SHE WANTS TO BRING TO THIS COUNTY.
AND SHE'S NOT GOING INTO AN AREA THAT HADN'T ALREADY BEEN A GOLF COURSE.
THAT WAS PART OF HER SHARING THAT SHE PLANS TO RE REFURBISH IT.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE ISSUES ARE WITH THE PEOPLE UP THERE, BUT I DO KNOW AND STAND BEFORE THIS BOARD TO, TO REQUEST THAT YOU BE ENGAGED WITH DR.
SIMMONS, AND THAT WHEN SHE REACHES OUT TO THE COUNTY, THAT THE COUNTY, UM, STAFF WORK WITH HER TO HELP HER BE SUCCESSFUL IN MEETING THE OBJECTIVES THAT SHE BRINGS FOR.
I, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH DR.
SIMMONS AT ANY TIME AND, AND, UH, BRING STAFF AS, AS APPROPRIATE.
ANYONE ELSE FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? CAN'T TELL WHICH WAY THEY'RE GOING.
I'M GONNA CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
BOARD, WE HAVE THE, OUR MINUTES IN OUR PACKET, AND IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO
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REVIEW THEM, IF, UH, IF IT'S APPROPRIATE, PLEASE.UH, READY FOR MOTION? MS. CHAIRMAN, MOVE APPROVAL OF OUR NOVEMBER 1ST, 2022 MEETING MINUTES.
MR. LUKINS, ANY DISCUSSION CHANGES? REVIS? ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
NOW WE WILL BE MOVING TO OUR, THE ITEM THAT WAS MOVED UP FROM NEW BUSINESS, THE FISCAL PRESENTATION, UH, FOR FISCAL, THE PRESENTATION OF FISCAL YEAR 20 2022,
[1. 5562: Presentation of the Fiscal Year 2022 Annual Comprehensive Financial]
THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCE REPORT BY PB MES AND MIKE GARBER, OUR EXTERNAL AUDITOR.YOU HAVE THE PRESENTATION? I DO NOT.
UM, I'LL START WITH SAYING, AT LEAST UNLIKE MR. LYNN, THE SIGNATURE ON THIS WILL NOT PUT ME IN JAIL
AND I DON'T, NO ONE SHOULD BE GOING.
AND, AND THAT'S WHAT HIS GOAL IS AS WELL.
UM, BUT, UH, I'VE, I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT STATED LIKE THAT BEFORE, AND I WAS LIKE, AH, IT'S VERY ACCURATE.
SO ANYWAY, UH, JUST BRIEFLY, WE DID MEET BEFORE THIS, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING WITH THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE TO GO THROUGH THE AUDIT REPORT AND OUR FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS.
AND I'LL REPORT TO YOU BASICALLY THE SAME THINGS I REPORTED TO THEM.
WE HAVE AN UNMODIFIED OPINION ON THE FINANCIAL
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STATEMENTS.THAT'S THE ONE YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, THAT MEANS WE HAD NO MATERIAL FINDINGS, NO MATERIAL ISSUES AND ERRORS.
UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT OTHER COMPLIANCE ISSUES, INTERNAL CONTROL, UM, AUDITING OF THE FEDERAL DOLLARS AND AWARDS THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED, WE HAD NO FINDINGS THERE AS WELL.
SO THOSE REPORTS ARE ALSO CLEAN REPORTS.
UM, IN PERFORMING OUR AUDIT, WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, GET ANSWERS AND INQUIRIES AND OBSERVATIONS AND, AND DOCUMENTS THAT WE REQUESTED, UM, AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL COMPLETELY AND TIMELY, AND, UM, GOT ALONG EXTREMELY WELL.
THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, THE TREASURER'S, OFFICE COMMISSIONER, SCHOOL BOARD, ALL THE DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT, UM, WE REQUEST DOCUMENTS FROM.
SO I WANNA, I KNOW I DIDN'T NAME EVERYONE, BUT, UM, IT'S MORE THAN JUST THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.
SOMETIMES THERE'S OTHERS THAT WE DEAL WITH AS WELL.
AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE ASSISTANCE THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US TO DO OUR AUDIT WORK.
UH, WE HAD NO JOURNAL ENTRIES, WE HAD NO OTHER ISSUES THAT WE ENCOUNTERED WHILE PERFORMING OUR AUDIT.
UM, AND SO LUCKILY, AND, AND HAPPILY, UM, IT WAS A VERY CLEAN REPORT TO, TO DELIVER TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE AND DELIVER YOU TO YOU HERE TODAY AS WELL.
UM, DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO GO OVER WITH THIS GROUP, BUT I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OR ANY OBSERVATIONS.
UM, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF COUNTIES THAT YOU COME ACROSS WOULD YOU SAY HAVE THE CLEANLINESS OF OUR REPORTS? I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO RIB OTHER COUNTIES.
TRUST ME, THERE'LL BE NO OTHER COUNTIES NAMED.
UM, I THINK PROBABLY 40, LESS THAN 50%.
I'M, I'M COUNTING THE NUMBER OF LOCALITIES WE AUDIT.
I'M GONNA SAY 40%, GIVE OR TAKE.
WE DON'T HAVE JOURNAL ENTRIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND AUDIT ENTRIES.
UM, THE OTHER LOCALITIES DO ALL GET UNMODIFIED OPINIONS ON THEIR FINANCIALS AS WELL.
UM, AND, BUT NOT EVERYBODY GETS CLEAN INTERNAL CONTROL AND COMPLIANCE REPORTS.
UM, SO ANYWAY, WE, WE AUDIT A LOT OF COUNTIES.
WE DO SOME SERVICE AUTHORITIES, UM, SOME DIFFERENT TYPES OF ENTITIES.
BUT, UH, NO, NOT EVERYONE IS AS CLEAN AS GOLER COUNTY DETAILS ARE.
HE'S REALLY ASKING WHO YOUR FAVORITE IS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. GARBER? TODAY'S SCR COUNTY
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
OKAY, NOW WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR REPORTS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU.
THE, THOSE THAT HAVE, UH, MANAGED OUR,
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OUR, UH, ARE MOVING AROUND.UM, WE, FIRST OFF, WE'LL HAVE OUR VDO REPORT, MR. MARSHALL WYN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MARSHALL WYNN WITH VDOT.
UM, THIS PAST MONTH WE HAD 144 WORK ORDERS COMPLETED.
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OF THEM HAD SIX CALL OUTS OVER THE MONTH.AIR, SNOW EQUIPMENT, DRY RUNS WERE COMPLETED.
UM, WE HAVE MATERIALS ARE AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO WE WE'RE GOOD AND READY TO GO FOR ANY SNOW.
I HOPE WE DON'T HAVE SNOW LIKE WE HAD LAST YEAR.
I, I HOPE IT'S ALL GONNA BE A DRY RUN, FOR SURE.
UM, MAINTENANCE ITEMS, YOU KNOW, WE DO THEM NORMAL POTHOLE PATCHING, DITCHING MOWING, UM, PIPE REPLACEMENT, SIGN REPLACEMENT, TRASH PICKUP.
UM, JUST REGULAR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE MONTH.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT THROUGH THE REST OF THIS YEAR.
OTHER THAN THAT, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING.
Y'ALL HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR FIRE RESCUE REPORT FROM CHIEF FERGUSON.
[2. 5565: Fire Rescue Report - December]
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, EDDIE FERGUSON, FIRE RESCUE CHIEF.UM, HAPPY TO BE WITH YOU TODAY TO REPORT OUT ON FIRE RESCUE ACTIVITIES SINCE OUR LAST, UH, REPORT.
OF COURSE, UH, WE'VE PROVIDED THE WRITTEN REPORT THAT'S IN YOUR BOARD PACKET, AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
JUST HAVE A FEW, UM, THINGS TO, TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, SINCE THEN, AND MAYBE SOME THAT ARE ALREADY IN THERE.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, THE WEATHER HAS TURNED, UH, COOLER OUTSIDE.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, UH, SNOW AND DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE, UH, MUCH SNOW THIS YEAR LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR.
BUT WITH THAT COMES ALONG, UM, YOU KNOW, AN INCREASE IN, UH, PROBLEMS WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO HEAT YOUR HOUSE AND HOUSE FIRES AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
AND SO, I'D JUST LIKE TO, UM, HAVE A FEW FIRE SAFETY PREVENTION TIPS FOR THE PUBLIC JUST TO, UH, MENTION HERE TODAY.
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HOME HEATING SYSTEM, UH, JUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE IT CHECKED.IF YOU BURN, UH, FIREWOOD, THEN CERTAINLY, UH, MAKE SURE YOUR CHIMNEYS HAVE BEEN CLEANED.
UH, CONSIDER HAVING A SPARK ARRESTER PUT ON SO THE SPARKS DON'T IGNITE ANY LEAVES THAT MIGHT BE IN YOUR GUTTERS OR AROUND YOUR HOUSE.
AND THAT BRINGS UP SOMETHING ELSE, IS A GOOD IDEA TO CLEAN THE LEAVES OUTTA YOUR GUT GUTTERS FOR MULTIPLE REASONS, BUT ALSO IN CASE OF A SPARK, WHERE TO GET IN THERE AND SET A FIRE, RAKE THE LEAVES BACK AWAY FROM YOUR HOME, UH, TO ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY OF A LEAF FIRE, UH, GETTING UP CLOSE TO YOUR HOME.
UM, I ALSO JUST MENTIONED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SADLY THIS TIME OF YEAR, WE ALSO SEE FIRES THAT ARE STARTED BY HEAT LAMPS WHERE, UH, FOLKS WHO HAVE ANIMALS, AGRICULTURE, OR PUPPIES OR PETS WILL HAVE A HEAT LAMP, KEEPING THOSE ANIMALS WARM.
AND IT'S JUST, UM, WOULD BE NICE TO GO THROUGH THIS, UH, SEASON AND NOT SEE, UH, ANY FIRES STARTED BY, UH, HEAT LAMPS USED TO, UH, KEEP ANIMALS, UH, WARM.
UH, OF COURSE, CHRISTMAS IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, AND ALL OF OUR HOLIDAY DECORATIONS, UH, ARE IN PLAY.
UH, JUST REMEMBER TO BE CAREFUL WITH, UH, THOSE DECORATIONS, THE WAY THE EXTENSION CORDS ARE RUN.
UH, CERTAINLY THERE'S, UM, JUST AN INCREASE OF OF HOUSE FIRES IN THE WINTER BECAUSE OF COOKING AND ALL.
AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE TEND TO ASSOCIATE THE HOLIDAY DECORATIONS WITH THE INCREASE OF FIRES AND CHRISTMAS TREES.
AND SO, HAVING SAID THAT, UH, NFPA SAYS ABOUT, THERE'S ABOUT 170 AVERAGE FIRES, UH, DURING THE CHRISTMAS SEASON THAT THEY CAN RELATE TO A CHRISTMAS TREE.
BUT THERE ARE MORE THAT ARE, UH, MORE LIKE 800 THAT ARE RELATED TO JUST HOLIDAY DECORATIONS.
SO PLEASE, UH, PLEASE BE CAREFUL, UH, WITH THOSE.
UH, ALONG THE SAME LINES, UM, EVERYONE NEEDS A WORKING SMOKE ALARM, AND WE HAVE SMOKE ALARMS AVAILABLE TO ANY CITIZEN WHO MAY NEED ONE AT NO COST WILL EVEN COME AND PUT THAT UP.
WE'LL SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT AND THEY CAN GET A SMOKE ALARM BY CALLING THEIR FIRE RESCUE ADMINISTRATION AT 8 0 4 5 5 6 5 3 0 4.
CERTAINLY, UM, ANY TYPE OF, UM, FOSSIL FUELS BEING BURNED IN THE HOME, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO ALSO HAVE A CARBON MONOXIDE ALARM.
AND WE DO HAVE SOME OF THOSE AS WELL, UH, FOR THE FIRST, FIRST TIME TO, UH, PROVIDE THOSE WHO NEED THAT.
SO, ON THE HEELS OF THAT, UM, WE HAVE HAD SOME SIGNIFICANT INCIDENTS SINCE WE'VE, UH, MET WITH YOU.
SOME HAVE OCCURRED SINCE THE BOARD REPORT WAS SUBMITTED.
UH, WE DID HAVE A HOUSE FIRE, UH, ON SAWDUST DRIVE IN THE EAST END, THE COUNTY.
UM, CERTAINLY DAMAGE WAS, UM, WAS MINIMIZED BECAUSE OF THE QUICK NOTIFICATION OF A AMAZON DELIVERY DRIVER WHO MADE THAT PHONE CALL AND GOT, UH, CREWS ON THE ROAD QUICKLY.
UH, SADLY TO SAY THAT THE FAMILY DID LOSE A PET, UH, IN THAT FIRE.
AND THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO THEM.
UM, A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, A FEW DAYS AGO, WE HAD AN APARTMENT FIRE ON WILKES RIDGE PLACE.
UH, THERE WAS A FIRE ON THE BALCONY OF TWO APARTMENTS, UH, EARLY MORNING HOURS, ZERO 5:30 AM UH, 19.
FIRE RESCUE MEMBERS FROM GOLAND RESPONDED IN ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT FROM HENRICO, UH, MUTUAL AID.
WE REQUESTED MUTUAL AID BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE COMPLEX.
I WILL SAY THAT THE, UM, APARTMENT FIRE ON WILKES RIDGE WAS MINIMIZED BECAUSE OF THE QUICK ACTIVATION OF THE SPRINKLER SYSTEM.
UH, THERE WAS A SPRINKLER SYSTEM ON THE BALCONIES, UH, SPRINKLER SYSTEM SYSTEM WAS ACTIVATING.
UH, THERE WAS STILL A FIRE, BUT IT DID KEEP THAT FIRE FROM SPREADING, UH, TO THE BALCONY ABOVE, UM, AND GETTING INTO THAT ATTIC AREA, WHICH, UH, IS NOT AT A SPRINKLED AREA OF THOSE APARTMENTS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GLAD DAMAGE WAS, WAS MINIMIZED THERE.
THERE HAD BEEN, UH, SIGNIFICANT IN MULTIPLE VEHICLE ACCIDENTS OR TRAFFIC CRASHES IN THE AREA.
UH, JUST, UH, LIKE EVERYONE TO PLEASE TRAVEL SAFELY ON THE ROADWAYS, PARTICULARLY DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASONS AND SO FORTH.
IT'S BEEN BUSY FOR FIRE RESCUE.
UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT TODAY ABOUT A 14 TO 15% INCREASE BASED ON WHERE WE WERE LAST YEAR AT THE SAME TIME.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY RUN OVER 4,053 CALLS FOR, FOR THIS YEAR, AND IT'LL BE A RECORD YEAR, UH, FOR US.
MANY OF YOU ATTENDED THE VALOR AWARDS THAT CAME, UH, WE JUST HAD IN RICHMOND.
I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THAT.
AND ALL THAT, UH, CAME OUT FOR THE VALOR AWARDS.
UH, I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE, AGAIN, FIREFIGHTER MORGAN D KINSTON, UH, WHO RECEIVED A BRONZE VALOR AWARD FOR, UH, SAVING THE LIFE FOR A WATER RESCUE THAT HE MADE BACK IN, UH, MAY DURING THE MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND.
I'D LIKE TO WELCOME, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, ROBIN HILLMAN.
UH, ROBIN IS, UH, HAS BEEN WITH US AS AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, AS A VOLUNTEER, AND SHE IS NOW FULL TIME WITH THE COUNTY.
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT SHE HAS NOT WASTED A MINUTE.
SHE HAS HIT THE GROUND RUNNING, AND WE HAVE ALL SORTS OF GOOD, UH, THINGS OCCURRING IN MORE COLLABORATION.
THE COMPANY, THE FIRE RESCUE COMPANIES ARE SIX STATIONS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU NEW VOLUNTEER LEADERSHIP AT THREE OF THOSE.
UH, COMPANY THREE IS ELECTED, UH, RUSTY PERKINS AS THEIR DISTRICT CHIEF.
COMPANY FOUR AND FIVE HAS ELECTED LISA BROWN AS THEIR DISTRICT CHIEF, AND FIFE, AND COMPANY FIVE IN THE COURTHOUSE HAS ELECTED, UH, JENNA NELSON, UH, AS THEIR DISTRICT CHIEF OF 2023.
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AND COMPETENT, UH, LEADERS WHO WILL DO A GREAT JOB, UH, TO LEAD THE, THE VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS AT THERE.THANKFULLY, UH, WE HAVE, UH, TENURED DISTRICT CHIEFS RETURNING TO THE JOB.
UH, WE HAVE CHIEF JOHN BOATWRIGHT AT COMPANY TWO IN CROZIER.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, JEFF MOORE AT COMPANY ONE, AND WE HAVE CHRIS BROOKS AT COMPANY SIX.
AND SPECIAL THANKS FOR THOSE WHO SERVED LAST YEAR, WHO WERE STEPPING OUTTA THAT ROLE.
CARRIE JONES AT COMPANY THREE, KEVIN LEONARD JR.
AT FIVE AND STEWART DALTON AT FOUR HOLIDAY ACTIVITIES.
I KNOW THIS IS A TIME THAT, UM, WE DO THE SANTA RUNS AND FIRE STATIONS HAVE THINGS OCCURRING IN THE HOLIDAYS.
AND I JUST WANNA MENTION TO YOU THAT COMPANY FIVE IS HAVING A DRIVE THROUGH SANTA BREAKFAST ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER THE 17TH, FROM EIGHT TO 10.
YOU CAN LOOK AT THEIR FACEBOOK FOR THAT.
AND COMPANY SIX IS HOSTING A SANTA BREAKFAST AT THEIR FIRE STATION ON SATURDAY, DECEMBER THE 10TH FROM, UH, EIGHT TO 10 30.
RS FOLLOWS, COMPANY ONE IS PLANNING TO DO THEIRS, DOING THE, UH, AFTERNOON HOURS ON, UH, DECEMBER THE 17TH, STARTING AT TWO IN THE AFTERNOON.
COMPANY THREE IS, UH, THE EVENING HOURS DECEMBER THE NINTH, STARTING AT 6:00 PM COMPANY FIVE IS LOOKING AT, UH, DECEMBER THE 13TH, 14TH AND 15TH, STARTING ALL NIGHTS AT 6:00 PM AND COMPANY SIX IS THE 13TH AND 16TH OF DECEMBER, STARTING IN THE EVENING HOURS.
ALL COMPANIES ARE PROBABLY HIGHLY PUBLICIZING THIS, UH, CONTACTING FOLKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, SO THEY WOULD KNOW THAT THE FIRE ENGINES WILL BE COMING THROUGH BRINGING SANTA CLAUS.
AND ALSO, UM, NOT TO SCARE ANYONE WITH, UH, SOME OF THE LIGHTS AND SIRENS.
I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO ATTENDED THE, UH, FIRE RESCUE SHOW THAT WE HAD ON OCTOBER THE EIGHTH.
THAT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL COMMUNITY RISK REDUCTION EVENT FOR FIRE RESCUE.
UH, WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, HOLDING THAT AGAIN NEXT YEAR.
UM, I WANTED TO MENTION TO YOU THAT WE DID COMPLETE OUR ISO UPDATE, INSURANCE SERVICE OFFICES UPDATE.
AND THAT WAS QUITE A, QUITE A PRO A PROCESS.
AND I'LL TELL YOU THAT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE A SCHOOL YET, BUT WE'VE BEEN LED TO BELIEVE THAT, UH, MUCH IMPROVEMENT HAS BEEN MADE SINCE THE LAST ONE.
AND WE'RE HOPING FOR AN IMPROVEMENT.
SO THAT WILL BE NOTIFIED, UH, WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE TO THE US MAIL SOMETIME IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.
TWO MONTHS HAS ALREADY PASSED ALMOST.
SO WE ARE
THE DEPARTMENT WAS, UH, INSPECTED.
EMS INSPECTION WAS HAD, UH, WE DID VERY WELL WITH THAT.
WE'RE LICENSED FOR TWO MORE YEARS.
UH, FIRE STATION RENOVATION UPDATES.
COMPANY ONE IS, UH, STILL WELL INVOLVED IN INTERIOR RENOVATIONS.
THEY'RE IN THEIR KITCHEN NOW, AND WE APPRECIATE ALL WHO HAVE, UH, BROUGHT MEALS TO COMPANY ONE WHILE THE KITCHEN HAS BEEN OUTTA SERVICE COMPANY FOUR, UH, MS. LASS, LET'S BEEN COMPLETED.
UH, WE HAVE THE TWO NEW, LARGER, WIDER, TALLER BEDO.
IT'S WORKING OUT VERY WELL, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT COMPANY THREE IN CENTERVILLE AND COMPANY FIVE WILL HAVE PLANS SOON FOR THEIR INTERIOR RENOVATIONS THAT THEY HAVE PLANNED.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, SMOKE ALARMS ARE ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT, UH, ANY OF YOU MAY HAVE.
CHIEF BOARD, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR CHIEF? JUST MR. REAL QUICK, JUST I WAS, YES, SIR.
EVERY NOW AND THEN I REMEMBER TO LOOK AT THE MUTUAL AID NUMBERS.
ARE THEY TRENDING CONSISTENT OR HAVE YOU NOTICED? SO WHAT, WHAT I NOTICED ABOUT THE NUMBERS THIS TIME, IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, WE RECEIVED MUTUAL AID ABOUT EIGHT TIMES AND WE GAVE MUTUAL AID ABOUT 18 TIMES TWO MONTH PERIOD, SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT GOES BACK TO, UH, THE COUNTY LINE WITH LOUISA AND THAT WE'RE BETTER POSITIONED TO GET TO THOSE AREAS ON BROAD STREET AND INTERSTATE 64, SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT QUICKER BASED ON, UH, WHERE OUR UNITS ARE.
UH, SO I THINK WE'RE IN, JUST IN A POISON, A BETTER POSITION TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, MORE MUTUAL AID THAN, THAN WE RECEIVE.
AND I THINK IT'S, UH, BUT YES, SIR, I THINK THE NUMBERS ARE, UM, ARE, ARE PRETTY STEADY.
UH, BUT I THINK YOU WILL ALSO NOTE THOUGH, THERE'S A VARIETY OF, OF COUNTIES THAT WE DO MUTUAL AID WITH, UH, AND RECEIVE MUTUAL AID FROM.
UH, AND NOT ALL OF THOSE, UH, TOUCH GOIN IN EVERY CASE.
UH, WE WERE JUST IN THE CITY OF RICHMOND, UH, DOING SOME, UH, SOME PLANNED MUTUAL AID FOR, UH, SADLY A FUNERAL OF A FALLEN, UH, EMS RESPONDER.
UH, AND WE ALSO, UM, WORK WELL WITH CHESTERFIELD.
OCCASIONALLY, WE, WE SEE THEM ON THE, THE RIVER, UH, EVEN THOUGH THE COUNTY IS STILL, I GUESS, TECHNICALLY TOUCH.
AND WITH A COUPLE OF EXCEPTIONS, THE VOLUNTEER HOURS ARE, YEAH, THEY ARE.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THAT AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS LOOK AT THOSE AND A FEW THINGS THAT WE ATTRIBUTE THOSE TO.
UM, THE RESCUE HOURS ARE NOT DOWN AS FAR AS THE FIRE DUTY HOURS.
OUR RESCUE HOURS ARE DOWN BY ABOUT, I THINK 9%.
AND THE FIRE DUTY HOURS ARE, ARE A LITTLE MORE, UH, SUBSTANTIAL.
AND WE ATTRIBUTE THAT TO A FEW THINGS.
UH, WE COULD, WE COULD NAME, UH, WE WON'T NAME NAMES AND THAT TYPE OF THING, BUT WE COULD, WE COULD TELL YOU THAT FOLKS WHO'VE HAD LIFESTYLE CHANGES AS WELL HAVE TAKEN NEW JOBS.
MANY IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY FIELD, THEY'VE BEEN IN TRAINING ACADEMIES AND
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THINGS OF THAT SORT.AND USUALLY THEY'RE PRECLUDED FROM PARTICIPATING WHEN THEY'RE IN THOSE ACADEMIES.
AND SOME HAVE GONE OFF TO COLLEGE.
AND THEN IN 2021, IF YOU RECALL, AND I DON'T WANNA BRING THOSE EMERGENCIES UP, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M REFERRING TO, WE HAD QUITE A FEW, UM, LOCAL, WHAT I WOULD CALL LOCAL EMERGENCIES THAT OCCURRED HERE IN THE COURTHOUSE.
AND THAT, THAT WAS A PRETTY, UM, SADLY TO SAY THAT WAS A PRETTY REGULAR THING FOR A WHILE.
AND, AND EVEN WITH THE, UH, SOME OF THE VACCINATION CLINICS THAT WE DID IN 2021 WHEN SOME OF THOSE HOURS WERE LOGGED, THEY JUST HAVEN'T, UH, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THANK GOODNESS SOME OF THOSE LOCAL EMERGENCIES HAVEN'T OCCURRED IN 2022.
BUT, UH, WE WATCH THAT AND I WISH THE VOLUNTEER HOURS WERE UP MORE.
UH, BUT THEY ARE TRENDING DOWN.
UH, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT EVERY CALL A VOLUNTEER ANSWERS IN MY BOOK IS SUBSTANTIAL COMMITMENT.
AND, UH, WE HAD VOLUNTEER MEMBERS, UH, ON THAT APARTMENT FIRE FRIDAY MORNING WHO JUST DID A SUPERB JOB.
WERE COMPLIMENTED BY HENRICO DIVISION OF FIRE FOR THEIR QUICK ACTIONS AND HOSE LINE DEPLOYMENT.
UM, CHIEF, UM, YOU AND YOUR TEAM DO AN EXCELLENT JOB, AND YOU'RE FOCUSED A HUNDRED PERCENT ON KEEPING THE CITIZENS SAFE AND THESE RENOVATIONS THAT YOU TOUCHED ON.
AND I WALKED THROUGH THE COMPANY ONE RENOVATIONS, RIGHT? JUST AMAZING THAT WE'RE NOW BEGINNING TO REALIZE WE NEED TO FOCUS ON KEEPING OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PEOPLE SAFE,
AND THESE RENOVATIONS ARE GOING A LONG WAY TO, THAT'S WHY I'M GLAD TO SEE, SEE THAT TAKING PLACE, UM, BECAUSE WE DO NEED TO KEEP OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PEOPLE SAFE.
AND I APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.
AND I'D BE REMISS, I, AND POINT OUT THAT THESE RENOVATIONS ARE BEING MADE BY THE, THE GLAND COUNTY VOLUNTEER FIRE RESCUE ASSOCIATION, INCORPORATED, LED BY OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MARTIN DEAN, WHO'S, UH, JUST DOING A GREAT JOB, UH, GETTING ALL OF THAT GOING.
AND THE, THE FOLKS IN THE COUNTY, UH, WHO HAVE DONATED TO US TO MAKE THESE POSSIBLE, AND THE BOARD FOR LOANING MONEY, UH, WITH ALL, ALL OF THAT, IT, IT COULDN'T BE POSSIBLE, BUT THEY, THE LONG OVERDUE AND WITH THE, UH, DEMANDS THAT WE'RE FACED WITH, WITH OUR EVER-CHANGING COMMUNITY, UH, THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE NECESSARY FOR WHAT YOU HAVE TO COME AND EVEN WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TODAY.
SO JUST SO THE PUBLIC IS REMINDED OF YOUR, YOUR HOLIDAY HOURS, WHAT HOURS WILL FIRE AND RESCUE BE SHUTTING DOWN COMPLETELY
SO, UH, WE WON'T BE SHUTTING DOWN.
WE'LL BE OPEN, UH, FOR THE HOLIDAYS AND, UH, CERTAINLY, CERTAINLY HOPE ALL THAT IS, UH, JOYOUS OCCASIONS.
AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY AND MERRY CHRISTMAS TO, UH, EVERYONE.
AND I DO WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GOODLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WHILE THEY ARE CELEBRATING, YOU GUYS ARE THERE 24 7 AND HAVE HONOR MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE SAFE.
IT'S A, UH, IT'S AN HONOR AND PLEASURE TO DO THAT.
AND AS I ALWAYS END IT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM AND IT'S WONDERFUL BEING PART OF THAT TEAM.
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
I THINK MR. VAERS HATE, OH, I'M SORRY, CHIEF.
I, I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UH, I DON'T WANT FIRE STATIONS TO HAVE 20 CASSEROLE.
UM, WHAT IS THE GREATEST, WHAT IS THE BEST WAY FOR CITIZENS TO BE HELPFUL DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON WITH, UH, DONATIONS AND THINGS TO HELP THE, UM, VOLUNTEER AND THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF? SO, SO WE ALWAYS, UM, WELCOME, UH, FOLKS COMING BY THE FIRE STATIONS AND LIKE TO SHOW THE FIRE STATIONS TO THEIR, THE CHILDREN AND SO FORTH.
IN FACT, WE HAVE, UH, OUR FIRE POSTER CONTEST WINNERS FROM THE FIRE SHOW ARE GONNA BE COMING INTO THE STATIONS.
AND, UH, SEVERAL OF THOSE WINNERS WILL BE FIRE CHIEF FOR A DAY DURING THE MONTH OF, WELL, THIS MONTH, DECEMBER.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE, WE APPRECIATE THAT.
AND IF, UH, IF ANYONE WANTS TO, WANTS TO COME BY AND DROP ANYTHING OFF, YOU KNOW, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UH, BUT THE BIGGEST THING THAT THEY COULD DO FOR US IS, UH, JUST TRY TO KEEP, TRY TO KEEP THEIR HOME SAFE AND KEEP ALL THEIR FAMILY SAFE AND, YOU KNOW, AND STOP BY TO SAY HI.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE THING.
AND AS FAR AS COMPANY ONE GOES, UH, COMPANY ONE HAS, UM, I KNOW THEY HAVE A, A MORE ORGANIZED, UM, PLAN FOR WHILE THE KITCHEN IS, UH, IS BEING RENOVATED.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, FOLKS ARE SIGNING UP TO BRING IN, UH, SOME MEALS.
AND I WAS THERE THANKSGIVING DAY AND WE, UH, COURTHOUSE MARKET AND PIZZA DELIVERED SANDWICHES ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY.
AND WHILE I WAS, UH, THERE TAKING SOME OF THE COMPANY ONE, A, A RESIDENT FROM THE MOSAIC COMMUNITY CAME IN AND, MY GOODNESS, UH, JUST OUR TURKEY AND ALL THE FIXINGS, UH, MANY TRIPS TO THE CAR.
SO, UH, WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT.
BOARD, UM, THE NEXT TWO REPORTS YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, I'M SORRY.
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WE, THERE YOU ARE.UH, WE HAVE OUR INTRODUCTION TO NEW COUNTY STAFF
[3. 5564: Introduction of New County Staff]
BY OUR HR DIRECTOR, MISS DYSON.GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SHELITA DYSON, HR DIRECTOR.
AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING OUR NEW NEWEST COUNTY EMPLOYEE WHO STARTED IN NOVEMBER.
UM, ON NOVEMBER 16TH, 2022, ROBIN HILLMAN JOINED FIRE AND RESCUE AS AN E.
SHE IS A 40 YEAR VOLUNTEER LIFETIME MEMBER OF THE GUC COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FIRE AND RESCUE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES ASSIGNED TO CROT COMPANY TWO AND FIRE RESCUE ADMINISTRATION.
SHE MOST RECENTLY IS EMPLOYED BY CX LOYALTY, A JP MORGAN AND CHASE COMPANY FOR THE PAST 38 YEARS.
WITH THE LAST 25 YEARS FOCUSED ON RESILIENCY IN HER ROLE AS AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, MS. HILLMAN WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PREPARING FOR RESPONDING TO PREVENTING, RECOVERING FROM NATURAL AND MANMADE DISASTERS, HOSTILE MILITARY OR PARA MILITARY ACTIONS AND PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCIES TO INCLUDE PANDEMICS AND THREATENING OF THE GUC COUNTY RESIDENTS.
PLEASE JOIN ME IN WELCOMING OUR NEW STAFF, MISS HILLMAN.
NOT, NOT, IT'S NICE AND IT'S OFFICIAL NOW.
UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DO HAVE THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY REPORT AND THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE REPORT FOR NOVEMBER.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE SEE THOSE APPROPRIATE DIRECTORS.
[4. 5561: Planning and Development Activity]
HAVE A, OUR MONTHLY BROADBAND UPDATE FROM, UH, MR. PAUL DRUMRIGHT.[5. 5549: Accounts Payable November 2022]
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GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, PAUL DRUMRIGHT, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS MANAGER.UM, THERE IS A COPY OF A FULL REPORT AT THE DIAS FOR YOU.
SO I'M GONNA JUST TOUCH ON A COUPLE BRIEF EXCITING UPDATES.
UM, AND THEN HAPPY TO TAKE SOME QUESTIONS.
IF I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS, OUR PARTNERS WILL GET THE ANSWERS.
THEY'RE NOT HERE CUZ WE HAVE 'EM BACK AT THE FIELD WORKING.
SO, UM, JUST TO TOUCH ON, UH, CAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO KNOW, WHEN'S IT COMING? WHERE'S IT COMING? UH, OUR PROJECT WITH, UH, FIREFLY FIBER BROADBAND, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE REGIONAL INTERNET SERVICE EXPANSION PROJECT, HAS MULTIPLE COMPONENTS.
UH, ONE OF THOSE COMPONENTS IS THE CENT VIRGINIA ELECTRIC CO-OP TERRITORIES.
UH, AND THAT CONSISTS OF FOUR TERRITORIES.
ALL FOUR OF THOSE, UH, SUBSTATION AREAS, WHICH ARE, UH, SHANNON HILL, UH, CARTERSVILLE, UH, COLUMBIA, AS WELL AS FERNCLIFF HAVE ALL BEEN COMPLETED THERE IN SERVICE.
SO CITIZENS WHO LIVE OR SERVED IN THOSE AREAS CAN GET BROADBAND TODAY.
THEY NEED TO JUST, UH, REGISTER WITH FIREFLY AND THEN GET SERVICE CONNECTIONS WILL CONTINUE ON IN SOME OF THOSE AREAS AS FOLKS REGISTER AND SWITCH OFF FROM WHOEVER THEY'RE USING NOW.
BUT, SO THAT IS, UH, ONE GOOD NEWS.
ALL OF THE CVEC AREAS ARE IN SERVICE.
ALL CONSTRUCTION'S DONE THERE.
SO CITIZENS CAN GET BROADBAND FROM FIREFLY TODAY IN THOSE AREAS.
UH, MOVING ON, ONE OF THE OTHER PARTNERS IS RAPPAHANNOCK ELECTRIC CO-OP, AND I AM PLEASED TO, UH, ANNOUNCE THAT THEY HAVE MOVED INTO THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION OF FIBER PHASE OF THAT PROJECT.
THEY WERE STILL WORKING ON, UH, SOME MAKE READY WORK, BUT IT HAS NOW OFFICIALLY CHANGED OVER TO THAT.
THEY HAVE BEGUN WORKING ON FIBER BACKBONES.
SO CITIZENS WHO ARE SERVED BY RAPHA COLLECTOR CO-OP WILL SEE FIBER BEING INSTALLED IN THEIR AREA.
THEY'RE GONNA FIRST BUILD THAT FIBER BACKBONE.
THEY WILL BE COMING BACK TO DO THE DROPS AND THE CONNECTIONS.
SO DON'T BE ALARMED RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE, IT, IT'S LAYING THE, THE, THE MAIN LINES, BUT THEY, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET SERVICE.
I, I'VE TALKED WITH THE CITIZEN, UM, THEY ARE GONNA BE BRINGING SERVICE, THEY JUST HAVE TO DO A COUPLE MORE STEPS BEFORE THEY CAN ACTUALLY START CONNECTING CITIZENS.
SO THAT AREA, ANOTHER CHUNK OF THE AREA IS, UM, WELL ON ITS WAY.
THEY ANTICIPATE BEGINNING, UH, CONNECTIONS IN SPRING OF 2023.
UM, SO GREAT TO SEE THAT HAPPENING.
OTHER COMPONENTS WE HAVE, UM, A PIECE, UH, THAT WE'RE DOING THROUGH JUST WITH FIREFLY THEMSELVES.
IT IS A, UH, CALLED THE RECONNECT FROM THE UNITED, UH, UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE GRANT.
AND SO RIGHT NOW THAT IS STILL IN A, UH, DESIGN SCOPING PROJECT.
THEY'VE BEEN OUT WORKING IN THE FIELD.
THEIR CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN, SO CITIZENS MAY HAVE SEEN THEIR CONTRACTORS OUT.
THAT IS A PATCHWORK AREA OF THE WESTERN END OF THE COUNTY DUE TO THE, HOW THE GRANT WAS.
BUT SO THEY'RE, THAT'S GONNA BE ALL BUILT BY
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FIREFLY.SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S STILL IN THAT DESIGN PHASE, BUT THAT WILL BE MOVING SHORTLY.
UM, THEY HOPE WINTER 20 22, 20 23 TO START WORKING ON CONNECTIONS IN THERE.
THEN THE LAST COMPONENT IS THE BIG COMPONENT, AND YOU HEARD LAST MONTH FROM DOMINION ENERGY AND UH, THEY'RE CONTINUING TO DO THEIR WORK.
THEY HAVE ADDED ABOUT, UM, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 13 TO 15 MILES THAT HAVE ALSO BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE DESIGN.
SO THEY'RE NOW UP TO 37 MILES THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED FULLY OF DESIGN.
THEY'RE CONTINUING TO WORK ON THE DESIGN AND, UH, QUALITY, UH, CONTROL ON THAT PIECE.
THEY ARE STILL ON TRACK RIGHT NOW TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS ON THAT, THEY WILL COMPLETE DOMINION WILL COMPLETE THEIR MIDDLE MILE FIBER CONSTRUCTION AT THE END OF 2023.
BUT CONNECTIONS WILL BE ABLE TO, THAT WILL BE ABLE TO START TO BE ABLE TO TURN OVER TO FIREFLY BEFORE THEN AS THEY WRAP UP AREAS OF CONSTRUCTION THAT WILL GET TURNED OVER TO FIREFLY.
SO SOME AREAS WILL GET DONE BEFORE THE END OF 2023 AND THAT WILL GET TURNED OVER TO FIREFLY TO BEGIN FIREFLY'S WORK ON THAT.
UM, SO RIGHT NOW I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SAY WE'RE ON TARGET, WE'RE ON TRACK TO SEE THIS PROJECT COMPLETED WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME THAT HAS BEEN OUTLINED AND ACTUALLY I BELIEVE EARLIER THAN THE TIMEFRAME THAT FIREFLY HAS SAID, WHICH IS BY END OF 2025.
UH, WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, OH ACTUALLY, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT REALLY ON FIREFLY'S PART ON, WE DO HAVE ONE OTHER PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WITH PORT 80 IN THE CAR, IN THE CROZIER AREA.
THAT PROJECT HAS FULLY BEEN BUILT OUT WITH FIBER, SO CITIZENS WHO ARE IN THAT SERVICE AREA.
AND THAT'S A, UM, SMALLER SERVICE AREA ABOUT, UH, 200 AND SOME HOMES IN THERE.
THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO GET FIBER TODAY.
SO ALL THEY NEED TO DO IS PICK UP THE PHONE AND, UH, GIVE, UH, PORT 80 INTERNET SERVICE A CALL.
AND, UH, THEY WILL START THE PROCESS OF BRINGING FIBER TO THOSE FOLKS IN, UH, CROZIER, UH, CROZIER IS SPLIT BETWEEN PORT 80 AND FIREFLY.
SO IF YOU'RE IN THE CROZIER AREA, YOU'RE NOT IN THE PORT 80 AREA, FIREFLY IS COMING.
IT UH, JUST, IT'LL BE PART OF THE DOMINION BUILD.
AND WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO JUST TO THE RISE ON OUR HANDOUT, IT SAYS THAT RISE IS IN EASEMENT RESEARCH AND ACQUISITION, BUT YOU, IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU SAID THAT IT'S IN DESIGN AND PERMITTING STILL.
SO, SO WHILE THEY'RE DOING THE DESIGN PERMITTING, THEY'RE ALSO DOING THE EASEMENT RESEARCH.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. DRUMMER? MR. LAS MS. LASETTE? UH, MR. DRUMMER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
SO THE RISE SECTION, UH, YOU'RE SAYING DOMINION IS ESTIMATING THEIR WORK TO BE DONE BY THE END OF 23? YES, MA'AM.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UM, THEN FIREFLY HAS TO COME IN AND THEN WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT RAPPAHANNOCK AGAIN? RAPPAHANNOCK IS, UH, IN THE FIBER CONSTRUCTION PHASE NOW, AND THAT, THAT MEANS, SO THEY ARE JUST LIKE DOMINION.
SO DOMINION AND RAPPAHANNOCK ARE BUILDING THE MIDDLE MILE FIBER, RIGHT.
FIREFLY WILL THEN COME IN AND BUILD THE LAST MILE OFF OF THAT TO THE CUSTOMER HOMES AND TO THE BUSINESSES.
UH, SO RAPPAHANNOCK IS SAYING THAT THEY WILL START CONNECTIONS AND FIREFLY IS SAYING THIS ON THE RAPPAHANNOCK PIECE BY SPRING 2023.
SO BEGINNING THAT FIBER CONSTRUCTION NOW.
AND I'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM A COUPLE OF PEOPLE ABOUT FIBER BEING BEING LAID IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, AND CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING LEFT, RIGHT
UM, BUT SO SPRING 2023 CONNECTIONS WILL START, THEY WILL CONTINUE INTO 2023, BUT, SO THAT'S WHEN THEY ANTICIPATE THE FIRST CONNECTIONS OF OUR APP, ABRAHAMIC CUSTOMERS TO BEGIN.
AND PORT 80 IS ALL DONE AND READY TO CONNECT.
SO THEY'VE BUILT OUT THEIR ENTIRE BACKBONE.
THEY ARE, UH, GOING THROUGH FOLKS THAT ARE, UH, HAVE SIGNED UP FOR SERVICE.
THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH THEM NOW, CONNECTING 'EM.
UH, SO IF THERE'S CITIZENS WHO ARE IN THAT AREA, GIVE THEM A CALL TO HOOK THEM UP.
WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO DO OUTREACH, UM, BECAUSE WE'RE COMING CLOSE TO THE END OF THAT GRANT.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS KNOW THAT THEY CAN GET BROADBAND COVERED, EITHER, UH, A LARGE MAJORITY OF IT OR TOTALLY.
BEFORE WE, UH, WRAP THAT UP AND TELL THE STATE WE'RE DONE WITH THAT PROJECT.
AND YOU JUST ANSWERED MY LAST QUESTION SO A LOT OF, WELL, THOSE OF US IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY REALLY FOCUSED ON FIREFLY HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, UH, AND DOMINION, RAPA.
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PORT 80 FOLKS, WE ARE REACHING OUT, MAKING SURE THEY KNOW THAT THEY CAN CONNECT.SO, SO THEY'VE DONE, UH, UH, A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT, UH, OUTREACH METHODS, INCLUDING IF YOU DRIVE THROUGH THE CROZIER AREA, THERE ARE SIGNS, UH, TALKING ABOUT PORT 80, INTERNET BEING AVAILABLE.
UM, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO GET A LIST OF FOLKS THAT THEY'VE NOT HEARD, HEARD ANYTHING FROM.
AND WE'RE GONNA DO SOME MORE TARGETED OUTREACH TO THOSE FOLKS.
UH, BEFORE WE CLOSE, CALL IT, CLOSE THE BOOK ON THAT.
AND, AND FOLKS WILL STILL BE ABLE TO GET INTERNET AFTER WE CLOSE THE BOOKS, BUT AT THAT POINT, OUR STATE GRANT WILL BE DONE WITH, AND IT WILL BE BETWEEN THEM AND, UH, PORT 80, AND THEY MAY HAVE TO PAY A FEE AT THAT POINT.
SO IT'S BEST TO GET IT DONE WHILE WE STILL HAVE THE GRANT OPEN.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. LUKINS.
UH, WHEN, WHEN DOMINION WAS HERE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, I THINK IT WAS, THEY EXPLAINED HOW THEIR ENGINEERING COMPONENT WAS DONE, AND THEY DESCRIBED HOW IT'S GONNA WATERFALL.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE SECTIONS COMPLETED.
SO WHEN YOU STARTED TELLING US THEY PLANNED TO HAVE THEIR PART DONE, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE BY THE END OF NEXT YEAR, BUT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR, THEY'RE GONNA BE DROPPING SECTIONS OFF.
I WAS, UH, MY EARS PERKED UP CUZ I WAS HOPING YOU WERE GONNA SAY THAT THEY'VE TOLD YOU WHEN CERTAIN SECTIONS ARE GONNA BE RELEASED BECAUSE KNOWING THAT IT MAY GET HERE OR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MY PROVIDER MAY BE ABLE TO START CONNECTING AT THE END OF DECEMBER, AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR VERSUS, YOU KNOW, SO I WAS HOPING THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING YOU INFORMATION LIKE WHEN THE SECTIONS ARE GOING TO DROP, BECAUSE DOMINION WAS VERY CLEAR, UH, THAT, SO THEY, THEY'VE GOT TO ACTUALLY BEGIN THAT, THAT CONSTRUCTION PART ANYWHERE THERE.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE PUSHING TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN BE ABLE TO TELL FOLKS AND OR BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
AT THIS MOMENT, I DO NOT HAVE THAT ANSWER, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING AS I TALK WITH AND I WAS, UM, EXCHANGING EMAILS WITH OUR CONTACTS WITH DOMINION, UH, RELATED TO THE PROJECT.
WE'LL BE ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.
UH, AND ALSO WITH FIREFLY AS WELL.
I WAS GONNA SAY, LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE LAST MEETING, LET'S, I, I, I WOULD LOVE TO SAY WE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENT THEY'RE COORDINATING, BUT IT DOESN'T HURT TO ASK WHEN YOU GET SOMETHING FROM DOMINION, MAKE SURE.
I MEAN, BECAUSE FIRE, THE PIECE THAT I ASK THEM ABOUT, ARE YOU COORDINATING? DO YOU KNOW SO THAT, SO THAT FIREFLY KNOWS WHAT, OKAY, WELL LET'S, LET'S GET READY NEXT FOR THIS AREA.
SO THEY ARE COORDINATING AND, AND IN MY COMMUNICATION, I'LL MAKE SURE I, I KEEP FIREFLY IN THE LOOP ON THAT.
UM, THEY DO HAVE A STANDING MEETINGS BETWEEN DOMINION AND FIREFLY DISCUSSION.
SO I, I WOULD CERTAINLY HOPE SO, BUT THAT DOESN'T HURT THAT TO ALWAYS MAKE SURE.
AND ON THE PORT 80 SIDE, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW DATA THIS IS FOR, YOU HAVE TODAY'S DATE, YOU KNOW, AT THE TOP, BUT WE'RE 80% DONE WITH OUR PAYING THE PORTION.
IT SAYS COMMITMENTS PAID TO DATE.
YOU SOUND LIKE YOU'RE WRAPPING IT UP.
ARE, ARE WE GONNA HAVE TO PAY THAT REMAINING 20% AT THIS POINT? UH, WE, WE WILL, UM, WHEN WE GET OUR NEXT BILL FROM, UH, PORT 80, WE WILL, UM, PAY A PORTION, BUT THERE ALSO IS A CON UH, THE STATE HOLDS A AMOUNT OF THAT THAT WILL NOT BE PAID OUT.
AND SO WE WON'T PAY OUT UNTIL THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE.
AND THAT'S TO ENSURE AGAIN, THAT THE PROJECT IS DONE.
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN SATISFIED FROM OUR ASPECTS OF EVERYTHING THAT PORT 80 IS SUPPOSED TO BUILD AND CONSTRUCT.
AND SO THE STATE, UH, HOLDS A PORTION OF THE FUNDS THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE, AND WE JUST FOLLOW THE STATE'S LEAD ON THE, ON THE MATCH FUNDS.
SO HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT THE 110 CONNECTIONS TO DATE OUT OF 366 SERVICE, SERVICEABLE, FIBER PASSINGS, IF THEY'RE DONE, I, I'M KIND OF SURPRISED AT THE LOW, THE LOW TAKE RATE.
IT, IT IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, BUT WHEN YOU START DRILL DOWN INTO SOME OF IT, UH, SOME OF IT IS MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS, AND SO THAT A PASSING IS AN ADDRESS AND THAT THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT BOTH IN THE GRANT AREA AND OUTSIDE THE GRANT AREA.
UH, OUR GRANT AREA, UNFORTUNATELY, FOR THAT PROJECT WAS VERY SPECIFIC IN IT.
WE HAD IT AS A LARGER GRANT AREA AND THEN HAD TO GET DRILLED DOWN DUE TO REQUIREMENTS BY THE STATE GRANT PROGRAM FOTI AT THE TIME.
AND SO WE WERE VERY, HAD TO BE VERY SPECIFIC OF WHERE WE WERE GOING, UM, WITH THAT.
AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO REACH OUT.
I, AS YOU MAY SEE IN THERE, THERE IS A NOTE WHERE, UH, PORT 80 IS SERVING FOLKS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE GRANT AREA.
THOSE CUSTOMERS HAD TO PAY FULL TOWARDS THAT.
UM, BUT THEY ARE, ARE ALLOWED TO PICK UP CUSTOMERS OUTSIDE OF THEIR GRANT TERRITORY.
UM, BUT WE CAN'T PAY GRANT FUNDS WHATSOEVER TOWARDS THAT BECAUSE OUR GRANT FUNDS ARE COMMITTED TO A SPECIFIC AREA.
UM, AND AGAIN, GOING BACK TO, SO THEY HAVE WORKING WITH THEM TO IDENTIFY WHICH ONES THAT THEY'VE NOT
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HEARD FROM AND TO REACH OUT TO THOSE FOLKS.UM, AND THEY'VE WORKED ON, UH, DIFF UH, DEFINITELY, UM, MULTIPLE WAYS OF COMMUNICATING THAT SERVICES AVAILABLE.
IT IS, SOME FOLKS JUST DON'T WANT IT.
OTHERS ARE ON OTHER PLANS RIGHT NOW.
AND SO THEY'RE WAITING UNTIL THEIR PLAN IS UP TO SWITCH OVER.
UH, SO THERE'S MULTIPLE REASONS WHY FOLKS MAY NOT TAKE IT.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE CAN'T FORCE EVERYBODY TO TAKE IT.
UH, WE WOULD WANNA MAKE IT AVAILABLE AND WE WILL ALWAYS POINT IT OUT TO FOLKS, BUT IT'S THEIR CHOICE.
UM, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM THAT LONG AGO THAT WE WERE SITTING HERE DEBATING AND DELIVERING THE FACT THAT MOST OF GOZA WOULD SEEMINGLY NEVER GET BROADBAND.
AND NOW HERE WE ARE SITTING HERE TODAY, HOW SOON CAN WE FINISH THIS PROJECT? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A NIGHT AND DAY NOW GOING FORWARD, INCREASINGLY OUR SOCIETY IS BECOMING MORE VIRTUAL.
THERE'S VIRTUAL LEARNING FOR THE SCHOOLS.
THERE'S VIRTUAL BUSINESSES, VIRTUAL PARTICIPATION, AND JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING.
AND THIS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE WILL POSITION THE CITIZENS OF GUTEN TO FULLY PARTICIPATE IN THE PROSPERITY IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO YOU CAN'T, IT'S HARD TO OVERSTATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PROJECT.
AND SO, WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, SUPPOSE THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PART.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT THING FOR GUTEN GOING FORWARD.
IT'S JUST, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY DISCUSSING HOW SOON WE CAN FINISH AS OPPOSED TO LAMENTING IT MAY NEVER HAPPEN, KIND OF THING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. DRUMRIGHT? RIGHT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS, FEEL FREE.
UH, Y'ALL KNOW HOW TO REACH ME.
WELL BOARD, WE ARE WINDING UP THE YEAR WITH A VERY ROBUST CONSENT AGENDA.
SO AS MUCH AS WE LOVE GUCCI, WE LOVE YOU SO MUCH THAT SOMETIMES WE GO BEYOND THE BORDERS OF GUC AND COUNTY TO
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SERVE YOU IN OTHER AREAS.SO THIS IS THE CHANCE FOR OUR BOARD MEMBERS TO, TO TALK ABOUT, UM, DIFFERENT, UM, AREAS THAT THEY'RE SERVING.
AND WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? MR. LUMPKINS? BLA, LET'S POINT IN THIS WAY.
SO, UM, SO, BUT FOLLOW UP PLEASE IF I MISSED SOMETHING ON, ON TPO, BUT WE HAD A LONG MEETING YESTERDAY.
COULD YOU HEAR US YESTERDAY? I THINK PERFECTLY WELL.
UM, SO, UH, CUZ UH, MS. LAT JOINED REMOTELY.
UM, BUT WE, CUZ WE WERE WAY DOWN IN CHESTER.
DOWN IN COLONIAL COLONIAL HEIGHTS.
BUT, UH, THAT WAS A LONG MEETING.
BUT IT RAISES A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND, AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE IN THE PAST ABOUT THE CHANGING TRANSPORTATION ENVIRONMENT.
UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING TOO GOLAND SPECIFIC THAT, THAT OCCURRED YESTERDAY, BUT THERE'S CERTAINLY SOME THINGS REGIONAL SPECIFIC, THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE, I THINK, UH, I DON'T KNOW, IT MAYBE TENSIONS BETWEEN THE LARGER JURISDICTIONS AND SMALLER JURISDICTIONS.
TENSIONS ON, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE LARGER JURISDICTIONS LOCALLY ADMINISTER PROJECTS AND SOME OF THE SMALLERS DON'T.
AND THERE'S SOME DISCUSSION, UH, PRETTY ENGAGED DISCUSSION AMONG THE GROUP ABOUT, UM, HOW FAR THINGS NEED TO BE DONE, UH, GONE BEFORE WE CAN USE THE ESTIMATING, BECAUSE LIKE WE'RE DEALING WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL NOW, YOU GET AN ESTIMATE, YOU PLAN ON SOMETHING AND THEN, THEN THE PROJECT COMES IN AFTER IT GETS FURTHER ENGINEERED AND LOOKED AT AND IT'S EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER.
SO, UM, TRANSPORTATION, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY CRAZY.
I MEAN, WE APPROVED, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO THE TIP, THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PLAN YESTERDAY ON A PROJECT THAT'S A 21 MILLION PROJECT.
UM, AND THE INCREASE WAS 7 MILLION, SO, YOU KNOW, A THIRD OF AN INCREASE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO, ON THE TPO, WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, GET THE INFORMATION AS TO WHY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THESE.
UM, I THINK I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR TRANSPORTATION WORKSHOP.
UH, AND I KNOW BECAUSE THAT'S SUCH A CRITICAL PIECE THAT, UH, MOVING AHEAD.
THE, THE TPO IS A GOOD, GOOD, GOOD GROUP.
AND AS CHAIR OF IT, I'M PLANNING ON MEETING WITH THE CHAIR OF PLAN RVA AND THE CHAIR OF THE C VTA, UM, IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WE'LL, YOU KNOW, START THE NEW YEAR ON, ON WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE THREE, THREE GROUPS AND THE TRANSPORTATION FORUM.
WE'RE GOING TO HOST THAT IN APRIL.
UM, WE, TO PICK A LO WE STILL HAVE TO PICK A LOCATION, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO IT AT SOME KIND OF TRANSPORTATION ORIENTED, UH, PLACE.
PORT OF RICHMOND IS A REMOTE POSSIBILITY.
THE AIRPORT'S ANOTHER POSSIBILITY OR THE MAIN STREET STATION AS A POSSIBILITY.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
UM, I, I KNOW TRADITIONALLY THE, THE COUNTY THAT HAS THE CHAIR, UM, HAS, HAS SOMETIMES HOSTED THE FORUM.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T THINK, WE'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO HOST IT IN GSEN, BUT I, I WANT GSEN TO HAVE A, HAVE A LEADING ROLE IN,
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UH, IN PUTTING THIS ON.SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN APRIL BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE, ALL THE AREA CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE TO HAVE A ROLE, BUT PARTICULAR GREATER, GREATER RVA CHAMBER.
UM, THE LARGER CHAMBER THEY HAVE, THEY'RE INDICATING THEIR WILLINGNESS TO, TO PARTNER WITH IT AND HELP US PUT IT ON AND TO INVITE THEIR MEMBERS AND THEIR, THEY, EVERY YEAR, THE GREATER RVA CHAMBER DOES A, UH, VISIT TO ANOTHER CITY AND, AND THEY DO THAT AROUND MAYOR JUNE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE MOVE THIS FORUM TO APRIL SO THAT WE CAN GET THEM IN AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT OUR TRANSPORTATION ISSUES IN THIS REGION, INTRODUCE THEM TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS WE'D LIKE THEM TO ASK WHEN THEY GO ON THEIR TRIP.
AND THEIR TRIP THIS YEAR IS IN KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI.
SO, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO HELP THE CHAMBER GET READY TO ASK GOOD QUESTIONS AND, AND, AND FIND OUT GOOD THINGS ABOUT REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IN THE BIG, THE BIG, UM, METRO AREA OF KANSAS CITY.
SO, LOTS OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON.
UM, SUSAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD FROM JUST DETAIL? YEAH, SO, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, I HAVE ANOTHER SIX MONTHS AS CHAIR AND THAT UNTIL NEXT SUMMER.
SO, AND THE OTHER THING IS WE ARE MEETINGS OF COURSE, ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UH, ALL GROUPS ARE TRYING TO GET MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
UH, I SHOULD MENTION AGAIN, A PLAN RVA SURVEY THAT I LEARNED ABOUT FROM G RTC, UH, PLAN RVA IS HOSTING A, UM, A SURVEY THAT, UH, THEY'D LIKE THE COMMUNITY TO TAKE.
AND I WENT AND TOOK IT, UH, THIS AFTERNOON, UH, DURING THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING WHEN IT GOT A LITTLE SLOW, I, I JUMPED ONLINE AND, AND
BUT, UH, BUT IT IS, IT'S AN, IT'S AN EXPANSION OF THE, IT'S A QUESTIONNAIRE ABOUT EXPANDING THE PULSE LINE AND IF YOU, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE IN GLAND ARE GOING TO CRINGE, BUT THE MAP SHOWS AND, AND THEY'RE ASKING TO, TO LOOK IT ALL THE WAY OUT TO 2 88 TO EXPANDING THE PULSE.
IT CURRENTLY STOPS IN THE, ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE ROUTE IN WILLOW LAWN.
AND SO THEY'RE TRYING TO GET PUBLIC SURVEYS TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU SEE FOR IT GOING WEST? AND, AND AGAIN, THE MAP SHOWS IT ALL THE WAY OUT TO 2 88.
UM, SO THAT'S ONLINE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN TAKING THAT.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT IS ALL I HAVE FROM, BUT STAY TUNED.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT AND WORKING WITH C V T A, UM, A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THE FUTURE.
SO BEFORE WE GO TO, UH, FINANCE, I'LL KEEP THE VEIN OF TRANSPORTATION.
C V D A PERSPECTIVE, UM, VERY MUCH APPRECIATES WHAT THE R TPOS DOING BECAUSE WE'RE IN CONVERSATIONS NOW TO FIGURE, WE, WE'VE BEEN MOSTLY PAY GO, MEANING WE WILL, WE WILL BRING IN THE TAXES, THE TAX REVENUE, AND THEN DISTRIBUTE.
BUT THE CONCERNS OF THESE OVERRUNS ARE COMING UP AND THERE'S THE QUESTION OF SHOULD WE START ISSUING BONDS TO COVER THOSE COSTS? AND SO KNOWING THAT YOU MAY HAVE A LOCAL, NOT THAT ANYBODY WOULD DO THIS, BUT THERE'S A STRATEGY TO LOWBALL THE PROJECT SO THAT IT GETS APPROVED BECAUSE THE FUNDING SOURCE IS THERE.
AND THEN BECAUSE THERE'S NO MECHANISM TO TO ACCOUNT FOR THE COST OVERRUNS, SOMEBODY COULD GAIN THE SYSTEM.
SO MAKING SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN FROM A PLAN RVA PERSPECTIVE, UM, THEIR, THE MOVE IS COMING UP.
WE'VE HAD, UM, A, WE HAD A GOOD MEETING WITH, UH, THE, THE CEO OF, UH, RICHMOND CHAMBER AND WITH, UM, UH, THE RICHMOND DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND, UH, JUST DIFFERENT THINGS AND PUSHING VERY HARD TO, A LOT OF THOSE AGENCIES FOCUS VERY MUCH ON URBAN CONCERNS, PUSHING VERY HARD TO REALIZE THERE ARE RURAL CONCERNS THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED, UM, IN MANNERS THAT WOULD BE, UH, FAVORABLE TO GLAND AND JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE REPRESENTING AND GETTING, UH, THE SERVICES THAT OUR CITIZENS PAY FOR.
UH, MR. PETERSON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FROM FINANCE? UH, I SURE DO.
YEAH, THE, UH, FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, TOOK PLACE IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
UH, WE HAD A VERY GOOD SESSION COVER A LOT OF GROUND, ALTHOUGH IT SEEMED LIKE AT LEAST ONE MEMBER, ME PAYING ATTENTION.
UM, WE HAD A VERY GOOD MEETING.
WE COVERED, UM, THINGS, UH, LIKE THE AUDIT THAT YOU JUST HEARD.
WE HAD A CLEAN AUDIT, UM, WHICH IS AS GOOD AS IT GETS, UH, FOR FY 22, WHICH ENDED LAST JUNE.
AND WE ARE CURRENTLY ON TRACK IN FY 23, WHICH IS THE ONE WE'RE IN NOW.
THE LIGHTS ARE STILL ON AND THE AIR CONDITIONING STILL WORKS AND HEAT STILL WORKS, SO WE'RE PAYING OUR BILLS.
AND THEN WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FY 24, WHICH IS COMING UP, UH, WHICH WILL END JUNE 30TH, 2024, WHICH IS ABOUT 18 MONTHS FROM NOW.
WE'RE TRYING TO PROJECT WHAT REVENUES AND EXPENSES MIGHT LOOK LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF FROM NOW.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, UNCERTAINTY AROUND THAT
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AND WE'LL DISCUSS THAT MORE AT OUR NEXT MEETING.UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE DID DISCUSS THE, UH, THE GLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND THE, UM, UH, THE BIDS THAT CAME IN AND THEN THE FUNDING COSTS AND WHATNOT.
AND THERE'LL BE SOME MORE DEBATE ON THAT AS WELL.
AND BECAUSE THAT WILL COME, UH, BEFORE US AT SOME POINT.
WE'VE SCHEDULED OUR NEXT MEETING IN JANUARY IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIR.
ANY OTHER REPORTS? SO BOARD, HOW WE DOING? WE'VE BEEN AT THIS ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF.
WOULDN'T YOU TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF A BREAK BEFORE WE GET INTO, GET MR. MR. CARTER CARPENTER, GET HIS WIND UP SO HE CAN GO THROUGH THIS HALL BUILD OF TAMINA.
SO, WE'LL, LET'S TAKE, UH, OH, PERFECT.
BIG HAND ON THE SIX, 10 MINUTES.
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Y'ALL RESTED UP, MR. CARPENTER, YOU READY TO GO? I FEEL LIKE YOU NEED A WALK UP SONG[XII. Consent Agenda]
TODAY.SO BOARD, UH, JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS MR. CARPENTER WILL REVIEW ALL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, AND THEN I'LL, I'LL, UH, CONSIDER A MOTION TO PULL ANY OUT.
UM, IF YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THEM INDIVIDUALLY OR IF WE FEEL, UH, THAT WE WANT TO PASS THEM AS A GROUP, WE CAN HANDLE IT AT THAT TIME.
MR. CARPENTER, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TODAY WE HAVE 13 ITEMS ON THE CONSENT.
WE BEGIN NUMBER ONE WITH, UH, REFERRING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ORDINANCE CHANGE THAT WILL REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND ZONING REQUESTS THAT DO NOT POSE ANY IMPACT ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
NOW, THE SECOND ITEM REFERS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND AMENDMENT THAT WOULD REMOVE THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT ORDINANCES FROM THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AS THEY ARE NOW CURRENTLY FOUND IN THE ZONING ORDINANCES.
OUR THIRD ITEM SETS A JANUARY PUBLIC HEARING TO UPDATE SECTIONS OF COUNTY PROCUREMENT CODE TO REMOVE REFERENCES TO USING A BIDDERS LIST TO CHANGE THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR AN EMERGENCY PURCHASE ORDER FROM 1000 TO $10,000 TO INCREASE THE THRESHOLD FOR SMALL PURCHASES, REQUIRING THREE QUOTES FROM 5,000 TO $10,000 TO REMOVE COUNTY WEBSITE POSTING OF SMALL PURCHASES OVER $30,000 AS THEY'RE NOW INCORPORATED IN THE STATE SYSTEM.
AND TO INCREASE THE CAPITAL PROJECTS CONTRACT AMOUNT, REQUIRING BOARD APPROVAL FROM 150,000 TO 200,000.
THE FOURTH ITEM SETS A JANUARY PUBLIC HEARING TO REFLECT A CHANGE TO COUNTY CODE THAT WOULD CHANGE THE REQUIRED COLOR OF FIRE HYDRANTS TO A REFLECTIVE SILVER THAT WOULD INCREASE FIRE RELATED PARKING TICKETS TO $100 WITH A LATE FEE $15.
AND TO SIMPLIFY THE EMS VEHICLE PERMIT PROCESS SO AS TO BETTER ALLOW NON-EMERGENCY PATIENT TRANSPORT SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS OF CLAND COUNTY AND TO LOWER THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH OBTAINING SUCH A PERMIT.
THE FIFTH ITEM SETS A JANUARY PUBLIC HEARING TO ADD OPEN BURNING RESTRICTIONS ONLY IN THE R P U D AND M P U D ZONING DISTRICTS.
AND TO CLARIFY NOTICE AND PERMIT REQUIREMENTS FOR ALL OPEN BURNING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
SIXTH ITEM SETS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER APPROPRIATING AN ADDITIONAL $15,726,130 FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW GOLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE SEVENTH ITEM IS A RESOLUTION TO TRANSFER $150,000 FROM THE NON-DEPARTMENTAL RESERVES FOR CONTINGENCIES TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR UPCOMING STUDIES.
THE EIGHTH ITEM IS A RESOLUTION APPROVING AMENDMENT TO THE RAPPAHANNOCK REGIONAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE TRAINING, ACADEMY
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CHARTER AGREEMENT AND BYLAWS TO ALLOW ALL PARTICIPATING AGENCIES TO HAVE REPRESENTATION ON THE BOARD.THE NINTH ITEM IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO PETITION THE CIRCUIT COURT TO REQUEST THAT NO ELECTION BE HELD TO FILL THE OFFICE OF CIRCUIT COURT CLERK THE 10TH ITEM, A RESOLUTION TO AMEND FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET TO TRANSFER AN ADDITIONAL $1 MILLION FROM THE UTILITY DEPARTMENT'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND TO ITS REHABILITATION AND REPLACEMENT FUND.
THIS WAS NECESSITATED BY COST OVERRUNS IN THE SEWER REMAIN REHAB PROJECT THAT WAS THE RESULT OF THE RUPTURE OF THAT MAIN IN JULY OF 21.
THE 11TH ITEM REQUESTS AUTHORIZATION FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ALLOW THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THREE AGREEMENTS WITH THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA WASTE MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY, ONE TO COVER THE COLLECTION, TRANSPORT, AND PROCESSING OF USED ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT FOR A PERIOD OF TWO YEARS WITH FIVE ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS.
ONE TO RENEW THE EXISTING AGREEMENT FOR PROFESSIONAL DEBRIS MONITORING SERVICES FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS, AND ONE TO RENEW THE EXISTING AGREEMENT FOR DISASTER RECOVERY SERVICE FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS.
THE 11TH ITEM IS A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT FOR THE VIRGINIA AMERICA 250 COMMISSION THAT SUPPORTS ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA IN CREATING A STATEWIDE COMMISSION TO CELEBRATE THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION AND COMMITTING TO FORMING A LOCAL COMMISSION TO DO SO.
AND FINALLY, THE 13TH ITEM IS CONSIDERATION OF THE 23 GSOM COUNTY HOLIDAY SCHEDULE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD.
AND I KNOW WE WOULD TYPICALLY DO A MOTION RIGHT NOW, BUT THERE'S A LOT ON HERE, AND I WANNA GIVE THE BOARD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS OR MAKE COMMENTS ON ANY INDIVIDUAL ITEMS BEFORE WE DECIDE TO TAKE THEM AS A FULL SLATE OR INDIVIDUALLY, MS. LASETTE.
SO, UH, UM, MR. CARPENTER, ITEM THREE, WHICH IS THE, UH, PROCUREMENT, UM, ITEM.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS RAISING THE BAR IN WHICH WE WILL GET MULTIPLE BIDS OR POST.
UM, AND SO I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION, BUT WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? UM, MAIN REASON IS INFLATION.
UM, THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS HAS GONE UP SO MUCH THAT GETTING A THOUSAND DOLLARS ITEM IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR MOST OF WHAT WE DO.
THE COST ARE NOW 15, 2, 3, 4, $5,000.
SO IT JUST SIMPLIFIES THAT THE PROCEDURE, UM, BY LETTING US DEAL WITH THE REALITY OF TODAY.
SO IT REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE, UM, WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY HANDLE.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF THE NUMBERS, SAME ITEMS WE WOULD NORMALLY DO.
IT JUST COSTS MORE TO DO THOSE SAME ITEMS. OKAY.
BOARD, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? I DO HAVE ONE OTHER YES, PLEASE, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
UM, SO ITEM EIGHT, UM, THE RAPPAHANNOCK REGIONAL CRIMINAL JUSTICE TRAINING ACADEMY CHARTER AGREEMENT BYLAWS CHANGE IS SOMETHING THAT IS RECOMMENDED BY OUR SHERIFF, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT.
I WOULD DEFER TO HIM, BUT YES, ABSOLUTELY.
OKAY, MR. SHERIFF CREASY SAID, ABSOLUTELY.
MR. CARPENTER, CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, FOLKS MAY NOT BE AWARE OF WHAT THE SUPPORT VIRGINIA AMERICA TWO 50 COMMISSION IS? SURE.
UM, THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA IS, UH, A PAST LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HONOR AND RECOGNIZE THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF AMERICAN REVOLUTION, WHICH WILL BE STARTING, UM, IN, UH, LET ME SEE, UH, 1776.
SO 2026
BUT AS PART OF THE LEGISLATION THEY HAVE PASSED, THEY HAVE SET UP A PROCEDURE WHERE, UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING EVERY COUNTY IN VIRGINIA CREATE A LOCAL COMMISSION TO COME UP WITH A LOCALLY APPROPRIATE WAY TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION, TELLING THE STORIES OF EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED ON THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF, UH, THAT EVENT.
SO, UH, THIS IS, THEY HAVE, UH, REQUESTED THAT US, UH, THAT THE GIN COUNTY AND EVERY OTHER COUNTY PASS A RESOLUTION SIMILAR TO THIS AND COMMIT TO FORMAL LOCAL COMMISSION THAT WOULD BE COMPRISED OF LOCAL CITIZENS WHO WOULD DO SUCH A THING.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MS. UH, ONE LAST THING ON THAT IS NO LOCAL FUNDS ARE EXPECTED TO BE SPENT, NO LOCAL FUNDS HAVE BEEN REQUESTED, UH, BY THE, BY THE COMMONWEALTH OR ANYONE ELSE AT THIS POINT.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M FOLLOWING THAT TOO.
UM, PLEASE, THAT, THAT, UH, VIRGINIA TWO 50, UM, GROUP THAT'S GONNA BE FORMED AND, UM, FIGURE OUT WAYS TO
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APPROPRIATELY CELEBRATE THE NEXT YEAR IS THE GUTEN 300, IF MY MATH IS CORRECT, WITH A SEAL IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM.IF MY, MA I'M NOT VERY GOOD WITH NUMBERS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THE NEXT, THE NEXT YEAR WE, WE MAY OR MAY NOT WANNA KEEP THAT GROUP AROUND TO, UH, MAYBE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DRY RUN WITH AMERICA.
THEY CAN KIND OF GET FOCUSED ON GOLAND.
SO ANYWAY, JUST, JUST A THOUGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE APPROVAL OF ALL THE CONSENT ITEMS AS PRESENTED.
ALL THOSE IN ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? RIGHT? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY WITH SAYING AYE.
AND IF I GET THIS WRONG, I KNOW YOU ALL YELL AT ME, BUT I THINK WE'RE UP TO APPOINTMENTS NOW.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING THAT WE DO, AND WE ARE GRATEFUL TO ALL THE CITIZENS
[XIII. New Business]
THAT ARE WILLING TO HANDLE ALL OF THE COMMITTEES AND COMMISSIONS AND BOARDS THAT WE, THAT REQUIRE TO MAKE THIS RUN.[2. 5571: Appointments -December 2022]
GOVERNMENT.AND TO DO THAT, YOU NEED CITIZENS SUPPORT AND ENGAGEMENT.
SO WE HAVE THREE, UM, FOLKS THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO APPOINT TO THE GLAND DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
THAT'S THE, UM, PATIENTS ARMSTRONG WILL BE APPOINTED AS A MEMBER FOR A TWO YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 1ST, 2022 THROUGH NOVEMBER 30TH, 2024.
JOSEPH GILLESPIE, A REAPPOINTMENT IS A MEMBER MEMBER FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, EFFECTIVE OCTOBER 1ST, 2022 TO SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024.
AND JOSEPH ROYER REAPPOINTMENT TO ALTERNATE FOR A TWO YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE DECEMBER 1ST, 2022 TO NOVEMBER 30TH, 2024.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPOINT THE THREE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE STEPPED UP TO SERVE ON THE GOLAND DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
AND THANK YOU TO, UH, MS. ARMSTRONG, MR. WESTBY AND MR. ROYER FOR SERVING THIS GREAT COUNTY.
THAT IS ALL OF OUR, UM, AGENDA ITEMS FOR OUR BUSINESS MEETING.
WE WILL RECESS UNTIL FOR OUR DINNER BREAK UNTIL 6:00 PM UM, WE'LL SEE Y'ALL BACK HERE THEN.
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MEETING BACK TO ORDER.AND WE ARE GONNA START OFF A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY WHEN WE USUALLY DO, WE ARE GONNA HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR THE, UH, RESOLUTION, CELEBRATING THE LIFE OF A FORMER BOARD MEMBER, DONALD SHARP, WHO, UM,
[XVI. Presentation of Resolution Celebrating the Life of Donald E. Sharpe]
TRAGICALLY PASSED AWAY, UM, THIS SUMMER.AND, UM, WE ARE GONNA ASK HIS WIFE TO COME DOWN AND PRESENT A RESOLUTION.
UH, AND, UM, UH, MR. VATERS AND I WILL PRESENT THAT TO HER, AND MR. PETERSON WILL READ THE RESOLUTION.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RESOLUTION CELEBRATING THE LIFE OF DONALD SHARP, WHEREAS DONALD SHARP, A CONSUMMATE PUBLIC SERVANT WHO SERVED ON THE GUTEN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, DIED ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2022, IN WHEREAS ANSWERING THE CALL OF FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS IN DESIRING TO BE OF FURTHER SERVICE TO HIS FELLOW RESIDENTS, DON SHARP RAN FOR AND WAS ELECTED TO THE GUTEN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN 2019, REPRESENTING DISTRICT FOUR IN, WHEREAS DONALD SHARP WAS A HUMBLE MAN WHO NEVER SOUGHT THE SPOTLIGHT AND WAS ALWAYS FOCUSED ON GETTING THE JOB DONE.
HE WAS A THOUGHTFUL AND RESPONSIVE LEADER WHO SERVED DISTRICT FOUR WITH THE UTMOST DEDICATION AND DISTINCTION.
AND WHEREAS DONALD SHARP CONTRIBUTED IMMEASURABLY TO FURTHER THE SUCCESS OF GUTEN COUNTY, SERVING IN KEY LEADERSHIP ROLES, SUCH AS ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, THE CAPITAL REGION WORKFORCE PARTNERSHIP, CLEO COMMISSION, THE RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION, THE ROTARY, AND MANY OTHERS.
AND WHEREAS DONALD SHARP OFFERED UNWAVERING SUPPORT FOR FIRE AND RESCUE AND PUBLIC SAFETY, MAKING GSON COUNTY A SAFER PLACE FOR OUR CITIZENS, VISITORS, AND BUSINESSES ALIKE.
AND WHEREAS DONALD SHARP DEMONSTRATED LEADERSHIP IN MANAGING THE COUNTY'S FINANCIAL RESOURCES THROUGH HIS SUPPORT OF THE COUNTY'S AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, IN APPROVING A BALANCED BUDGET OF $124 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 2023.
AND WHEREAS DONALD SHARP PROMOTED TEAM EFFORT IN NUMEROUS PROJECTS WITH SCHOOLS CONTINUING THE FURTHERANCE OF BROADBAND EXPANSION THROUGH PROJECTS WITH THE COUNTY'S PARTNERS CONTRIBUTED TO THE COUNTY'S UNPARALLELED SUCCESS IN PASSING ITS FIRST EVER GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND REFERENDUM WITH ONE OF THE HIGHEST VOTER APPROVAL PERCENTAGES OF OVER 80% FOR A REFERENDUM.
AND WHEREAS MR. SHARP APPROVED AND ADOPTED NUMEROUS ORDINANCES, AMENDED AMENDMENTS, RESOLUTIONS, PLANS AND POLICIES THROUGHOUT HIS TENURE, AND ATTENDED NUMEROUS MEETINGS INVOLVING THE 25 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, THE 2040 MASTER THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ZONING, ORDINANCE, REWRITE, JUST TO NAME A FEW.
AND WHEREAS DONALD SHARP WAS A PERSON OF DEEP FAITH, STRONG CHARACTER, INTEGRITY, AND COMMITMENT TO HIS CORE BELIEFS, AND DON SHARP WILL BE FOND, REMEMBERED, AND GREATLY MISSED BY HIS BELOVED WIFE OF 43 YEARS, CAROLYN, HIS SON, STEPHEN AND STEVEN'S FAMILY, AND NUMEROUS OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE GUTEN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY NOTES WITH GREAT SADNESS, THE LOSS OF DONALD SHARP, A VALUED COLLEAGUE, A THOUGHTFUL MENTOR, A GOOD FRIEND, A RESPECTED PUBLIC SERVANT IN A COMMUNITY LEADER IN GUTEN COUNTY SIGN.
NEIL SPOON, HOUR CHAIR, GUTEN COUNTY BOARD
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OF SUPERVISORS.CAN I HAVE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR? I MOVE.
WE ADOPT THIS, UH, RESOLUTION THAT'S PRESENTED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
UM, NOW WE ARE GONNA OPEN OUR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
I, I, I SEE SOME NEW FACES IN THE ROOM, SO,
[XVII. Citizen Comment]
UH, THIS IS NEW TO SOME FOLKS, FOLKS, I'LL BE GOING TO SOME, UH, EXPLANATIONS.SO THIS CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD IS FOR ANYBODY TO BRING ANYTHING FORTH REGARDING CONCERNS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT PERTAINING TO GLAND COUNTY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING.
SO THIS IS JUST GENERAL, UM, GENERAL CITIZEN COMMENTS.
UH, WE ASK THAT YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
UH, PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN JUST SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES AND A LIGHT WILL GO OFF.
UH, WHEN YOU HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT, THEN I'LL START BRIEFING REALLY, REALLY FAST, AND THEN I'LL TURN RED.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JOHN FAU 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD, UM, CHAIRMAN OF THE MO AND SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT THIS YEAR, AND ALSO A DIRECTOR FOR THE GLAND FARM BUREAU.
UM, IT'S BEEN A BUSY MONTH SINCE, UH, YOUR LAST MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE, UH, VIRGINIA TOURISM CONFERENCE IN NORFOLK, UH, IN NOVEMBER.
AND, UH, AGRITOURISM WAS A TOPIC THERE.
I WAS PLEASED THAT THE COUNTY HAD A REPRESENTATIVE THERE.
UH, I CALLED HER ADULT SUPERVISION FOR ME.
UH, BUT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR TOURISM TO BE AN INTEGRAL PART OF GLAND'S, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS, IS REAL AND BONAFIDE, UH, PARTICULARLY IN THE AGRICULTURAL ARENA.
I ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE AT THE, UH, STATE FARM BUREAU CONFERENCE LAST WEEK, AND I JUST RETURNED LITERALLY 30 MINUTES AGO FROM THE STATE SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT MEETING.
UH, BOTH OF THOSE HAVE POLICIES.
SO IN A SENSE, I MAY BE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF BOTH VIRGINIA FARM BUREAU AND THE CONSERVATION DIRECTORS, UH, STATEWIDE ON SOLAR COLLECTION FACILITIES AND THEIR DEVELOPMENT.
BOTH HAVE POLICIES THAT DISCOURAGE, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT OF SOLAR COLLECTION FACILITIES ON PRIME AGRICULTURAL LAND.
UH, I HAVE SEEN THE DRAFT OF THE POLICY THAT IS CURRENTLY CIRCULATING THAT REALLY DIRECTS GOLAND TO PUT SOLAR COLLECTION FACILITIES ON PRIME AGRICULTURAL LAND.
I'M HOPEFUL THAT THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS AND REVISE THAT.
UH, EVERYBODY I HOPE ENJOYS A MEAL AT LEAST ONCE A DAY.
UH, PRIME AGRICULTURAL LAND IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THAT.
I ALSO, UH, WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND BECAUSE OF MY CONFERENCE ATTENDANCE, THE VILLAGE PLANS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER DISCUSSION.
UH, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT STAFF HAS PUT INTO THOSE.
I HAVE QUESTIONS AND, AND MAYBE CRITICISM NOT ALWAYS NEGATIVE, BUT THERE'S SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PARTS IN THERE THAT JUST DON'T SIT WELL RIGHT NOW.
AND I, I'LL BRING THOSE UP LATER AS AN INDIVIDUAL CITIZEN, NOT ON BEHALF OF FARM BUREAU.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, BLESS YOU.
UH, I SO APPRECIATE THE COLLABORATION THAT EXISTS BETWEEN THIS BOARD AND THE SCHOOL BOARD.
UH, THERE'S NO SECRET THAT WE HAVE SOME ISSUES RIGHT NOW ON HOW TO PROCEED WITH THE BOND REFERENDUM THAT WAS PASSED LAST NOVEMBER.
UM, THIS AGAIN, IS NOT FARM BUREAU OR CONSERVATION DIRECTOR OPINIONS.
THESE ARE MINE AS AN INDIVIDUAL.
BUT I, I SO APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO COLLABORATE.
UM, I, I THINK THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH A DECISION THAT, UH, WILL SATISFY FOLKS WITHOUT GETTING ANTAGONISTIC.
AND SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE EFFORTS.
THIS IS OUR YELLOW, SO I THINK THAT'S, I'M GOOD, BUT I'M DONE.
AND, UH, AS THE BUTTON SAYS, MERRY CHRISTMAS, AND I ALREADY TOLD MR. UH, PETERSON, I COULDN'T WEAR MY BEAT NAVY BUTTON BECAUSE MY WIFE SAID ONE, NOT BOTH.
THANK YOU, MR. IS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK FOR PUBLIC ART? LET ME SEE IF I CAN DO THIS.
I GRADUATED BY TO CLASS 1984 IN GUC HIGH SCHOOL.
THIS WAS A HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING.
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MAN, VIRGINIA, 20 31 0 3.UM, LET EVERYBODY KNOW ON THE NEWS DAY, WE LIVING THE WORLD.
IN CASE YOU DON'T KNOW, WE ARE IN WW THREE RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU'RE NOT INFORMED TO EDUCATED, WE'RE FIGHTING IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
WE'RE NOT USING NUCLEAR BOMB, THANK THE LORD.
UH, BUT WE ARE AT WAR CHINA, UM, WOULD LIKE THE BOMBERS IF THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT.
FORTUNATELY, DO HAVE SOME GOOD LEADERS.
UM, BUT THINGS ARE COMING DOWN ON LOWER LEVELS.
WE'VE SEEN IN THE NEWS, UM, THE MAD SHOOTINGS.
VIRGINIA'S BEEN IN THE NEWS THREE TIMES HERE LATELY FOR, UH, NEGATIVE THINGS, NOT GOOD THINGS.
UM, AND NOW WE HAVE, UM, PRIDE, GENTLEMEN, I DON'T KNOW HIS NAME.
HE JUST ADDRESSED SOMETHING I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT.
UM, WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF OUR RURAL ENVIRONMENT.
WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY.
WE OLDER FOLKS THINK A CERTAIN WAY.
YOUNGER FOLKS ARE BEING, ARE DEALING WITH A CRAZY WORLD THAT WE DID NOT COME UP IN.
AND IT'S RIDICULOUS ON THE NEWS TODAY, THERE'S A LOTTERY, 2.4 BILLION, NOT DOING ANY WORK.
YOU PLAY LOTTERY, YOU GET 2.4 BILLION.
I'M A CHRISTIAN, BUT I'M A CITIZEN.
WELL, IF THEY CAN DO THAT, WELL, WE CAN DO THIS TOO.
I'M NOT GONNA GET INVOLVED LIKE WE SEE IN RICHMOND.
WATCH PEOPLE GETTING SHOT AND KILLED.
WE GOT TO CARE ABOUT EACH OTHER.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU HINDU BUD IS WHAT YOU ARE.
WE GOT TO PULL TOGETHER AND BE GOOD PEOPLE.
SO WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY IN THE NEWS? I'LL SAY THIS.
I KNOW THE CAR'S RUNNING, UM, MORE THAN ONE STATE'S DEALING WITH COMP COMING IN, BUYING THE HOSPITAL LIKE ST.
MARY'S, UM, HICO DOCTORS, UM, THEY BOUGHT THE HOSPITAL, THEY BORROWED 1.2 BILLION.
THE CEO STUCK 41 90 1 MILLION IN HIS POCKET, AND 457 MILLION WAS GIVEN TO HIS LITTLE 40, 50 LITTLE PARTNERS.
AND THEN THEY SHUT THE HOSPITAL DOWN BASICALLY AND BLAMED THE WORKERS FOR THE PROBLEMS AND SAID THEY WEREN'T DOING A JOB.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH, AND THEY'RE COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITIES AND DOING THESE THINGS.
THEY TAKE THE MONEY, 40, 50 PEOPLE RUN OFF AS MILLIONAIRES, BILLIONAIRES, AND LEAVE THE REST US TO DEAL WITH THE MESS.
I DON'T WANT THAT HAPPENING TO US.
THESE GUYS GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
ANYONE ELSE FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
OKAY FOLKS, WE ARE GONNA MOVE INTO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
JUST A QUICK RUNDOWN OF HOW THIS GOES.
[XVIII. Public Hearings]
UH, SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS, I THINK FIVE IN FRONT OF US THIS EVENING.UM, STAFF IS GONNA COME FORWARD AND DO A PRESENTATION.
THEN THE APPLICANT IS GONNA COME FORWARD AND SPEAK.
IF THEY SO CHOOSE, UH, THE BOARD MAY AT THAT TIME ASK SOME QUESTIONS AND THEN I WILL OPEN THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
THAT'S THE TIME FOR YOU ALL TO COME FORWARD.
UM, DEPENDING ON IF IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SPEAK, UH, I'M GUESSING IT WON'T BE FOR THE FIRST FEW HEARINGS, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL ADDRESS THAT AT THE, AT THE TIME.
UM, AFTER THE PUBLIC SPEAKS, AND THIS PUBLIC IS, IS ADDRESSING THE BOARD, NOT THE AUDIENCE MEMBERS OR THE APPLICANTS.
SO YOU SPEAK, UH, ADDRESSING THE BOARD, UH, THE APPLICANT CAN COME UP AND TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY HEARD OR QUESTIONS THAT THEY, THEY WANT TO ADDRESS.
THE BOARD MAY ASK SOME QUESTIONS AND THEN, THEN ONCE THAT, UH, THAT IS DONE, THAT'S WHEN THIS BOARD GOES TO WORK AND WE DISCUSS AMONGST OURSELVES AND WE'LL ASK QUESTIONS, ENTERTAIN MOTIONS, AND THEN WE WILL WE'LL, UH, VOTE OR, UH, ON THE ISSUE.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GREAT NIGHT AND LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, DOING SOME GOOD WORK HERE.
SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO MS. ANS GET AWAY.
UM, CHAIRMAN AND SUPERVISORS FOR GUCCI COUNTY.
I'M CRYSTALS YOUR, SORRY, YOU'RE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
UH, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE UP HERE.
WANT TO PROCEED INTO OUR FOR PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING.
THIS IS FOR Y WWL HOLDINGS, LLC, WHICH IS ALSO REFERRED TO MOST OFTEN AS YARDWORKS PATTERSON AVENUE.
[1. 5556: 2022 District 5; 2011 District 5 - CU-2012-00002A Application by YWL]
OF AN EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.THERE ARE NO MAJOR CHANGES, UH, TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OTHER THAN REMEDIATION MEASURES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN PLACE REGARDING A BERM AND ENSURING ACCESSIBILITY OF THE SITE AND FLOOD PLAIN MITIGATION.
UM, THIS IS YOUR TYPICAL PLANNING PRESENTATION, UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA GLOSS OVER SOME OF THE MAPS.
UM, AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON PATTERSON AVENUE, SO WANTING TO HIGHLIGHT AGAIN THAT THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE FLOOD PLAIN.
THEY HAVE A PREEXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH THEY HAVE WORKED TO COMPLY WITH.
WE DID SEE ONE ITEM THAT WAS OF CONCERN WHEN WE WENT OUT TO DO A REINSPECTION PRIOR TO INITIATING
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THE REVIEW PROCESS FOR THE C P RENEWAL, WHICH THE OWNERS AND OPERATORS OF YARDWORKS HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY WITH STAFF TO ADDRESS.UM, AND NAMELY THAT WAS JUST ON ACCESSIBILITY NEAR THE FLOODWAY AND FLOOD PLAIN AREA.
SO, UM, THE USE OF THIS SITE, I SHOULD HIGHLIGHT AS WELL, IS ACTUALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
THIS AREA IS LISTED AS COMMERCIAL AND I, THERE YOU GO.
SORRY, THIS CLICKER'S NEW TO ME.
SO THE PERMIT WAS ORIGINALLY ISSUED FOR 10 YEARS.
THE SITE HERE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN IN THAT IT IS COMMERCIAL, AND THIS IS A COMMERCIAL USE.
IT IS AN EXISTING AGRICULTURAL SUPPORT OR CONS, CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY SUPPORT.
UM, SO THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE OPERATION.
THIS IS AN ACTUAL VISUAL OF, UM, THEIR CONCEPTUAL THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY STAFF.
UM, AND AGAIN, NO CHANGES TO THE OPERATION, NO CHANGES TO THE POINT OF ACCESS ON PATTERSON AVENUE.
NOTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE TO NOTE.
AGAIN, THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE AS WELL THAT THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD.
THERE WERE TWO CITIZENS IN ATTENDANCE.
THERE WERE NO NOTABLE CONCERNS OR ISSUES DOCUMENTED AT THAT TIME.
AND AT THE NOVEMBER 1ST PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, SO IT IS BEFORE YOU ALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE APPROPRIATE ACTION AS YOU SEE FIT, IF THERE'S, THANK YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS? AND STAFF, MS. CLERK? OKAY.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE AND WOULD THEY LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
BOARD PROUD IRVINE, 1990 ANDERSON HIGHWAY P AND VIRGINIA.
UH, WE'VE BEEN PART OF THE GUCCI COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE, COMMITTEE OVER 20 YEARS, THIS LOCATION FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS.
WE'VE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO OPERATE IN GLIN.
UH, WE STRIVE HARD TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY, SUPPORT A LOT OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND GROUPS.
SO, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT TODAY TO THE CONDITIONAL USE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER TEAM ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.
I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS.
UH, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS, UH, THOUGHTS FOR OR AGAINST, PLEASE, UH, COME UP.
GIVE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND WE'LL KEEP IT TO THREE MINUTES.
SEEING NONE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BOARD, UH, IT IS WORTH KNOWING WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS, IS, UH, THIS APPLICANT HAS BEEN, UH, HAS HAD A, A BUSINESS OPERATING WITH A CONDITIONAL USE THAT IS NOT WITHIN THE ZONING.
SO IF ISSUE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, BUT WE PUT A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME ON THOSE JUST TO ENSURE THAT THEY CAN COME BACK FOR RENEWAL AND THEN ADDRESS ANY ISSUES THAT COME UP.
IT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE, WHILE WE DO HAVE ZONING, WE, WE MAY VARY FROM THAT ZONING, THAT WE HAVE SOME LEVEL OF CONTROL OVER HOW THINGS CONTINUE TO WORK IN THE COUNTY.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THIS IS BEFORE US TONIGHT.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO RENEW THAT, THAT USE TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS.
MR. CHAIR, YOU READY FOR A MOTION? I'M, I'M THIS, THIS ONE SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD IN THAT THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING FOR 10 YEARS AND, UM, NO SUBSTANTIAL ISSUES HAVE COME TO LIGHT.
UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING OR THE, UH, COMMUNITY MEETING RATHER THAN NO ONE SPOKE.
UM, AND IT COMES TO US WITH A FIVE OH UNANIMOUS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO IT SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UM, SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
UM, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD GRANT CONDITION NEWS PERMIT 20 12 2 ALPHA TO OPERATE A LANDSCAPING SUPPLY BUSINESS LOCATED WITHIN THE FLOOD FRINGE PORTION OF THE 100 YEAR FLOOD PLANE AT 20 12 29 PATTERSON AVENUE, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, MR. CARPENTER, ROLL CALL.
THANK YOU FOR BEING A GREAT PARTNER.
UP TO OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING,
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AN APPLICATION BY OLIVERS TRAIL, LLC.[04:20:03]
GOOD EVENING.UH, I'M CRYSTAL ANNIS, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR GUC COUNTY.
PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT A PROPOSAL RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A SUBDIVISION OF 89 ACRES TO BE DEVELOPED INTO A 20 LOT SUBDIVISION ALONG NEW LINE ROAD NORTH OF INTERSTATE 64.
SO CLOSE TO THE LOUISA COUNTY LINE.
UM, THIS IS DESIGNATED A RULE ENHANCEMENT AREA AND ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE WILL BE AN OPEN AREA MAINTAINED ON THIS PROPERTY ACTUALLY TO EQUATE TO ABOUT 45 ACRES OF THAT 89 ACRES.
AND IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M PROBABLY GONNA BE A LITTLE BRIEFER THAN THE ACTUAL SLIDESHOW PROFFERS HAVE BEEN AGREED TO BASED ON THE APPROVED FORMULA THAT THE COUNTY HAS ADOPTED AND WILL, UM, HAVE BEEN VERIFIED BY THE APPLICANT WILL BE PAID AND THERE WILL ALSO BE AN HOA TO ADMINISTER CONDITIONS RELATING TO THE PROFFERS AND PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS.
WITH THAT BEING SAID THERE, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD ON JULY 28TH, 2022, AND THERE WAS A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION THERE, MR. MYERS AND 11 CITIZENS THAT ALSO ATTENDED.
THERE WERE ITEMS AND CONCERNS DISCUSSED.
UM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, ACCESS ISSUES, TRAFFIC IMPACTS, UM, UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN, UH, WORKED THROUGH AND ADDRESSED AS BEST AS POSSIBLE.
THERE IS AN APPROVED CONCEPTUAL PLAN AT THIS TIME THAT STAFF HAS REVIEWED AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS, UM, RE REZONING CASE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER AND REVIEW TONIGHT.
AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
ANY QUESTIONS? HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THE SLIDES.
SOME OF THEM ARE A LITTLE REPETITIVE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AT LEAST THE LAYOUT OF THE SUBDIVISION S YES SIR.
AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE JUST GO THROUGH THESE JUST A LITTLE BIT.
SO GETTING TO THE CONCEPTUAL OF THE SUBDIVISION, THERE ARE GOING TO BE A MINIMUM OF TWO ACRE LOTS.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC HEARING, CAN YOU GO BACK AND SHOW WHERE WHERE IT'S GONNA BE IN RELATIVELY, YES SIR.
I APPRECIATE YOU WANTING TO BE EXPEDIENT.
SO LOOKING FROM AN AERIAL PERSPECTIVE, WHEN THE RED CIRCLE IS WHERE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS REQUESTING, UM, THE ABILITY TO GO IN NEAR, UM, INTERSTATE 64 AND NEW LINE ROAD, THERE HAS BEEN A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DONE.
THERE'S NOT BEEN ANYTHING NOTED OF SIGNIFICANCE, UM, AT THIS TIME.
THEN IF WE, UM, GO FORWARD AND LOOK AT THE ACTUAL, UM, SUMMARY, WHICH I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT.
AGAIN, I VERBALLY WENT OVER THIS, BUT VISUALLY AGAIN, IT'S A 20 LOT SUBDIVISION.
IT'S DEVELOPED PROPOSING TO BE DEVELOPED UNDER RESIDENTIAL PRESERVATION DISTRICT STANDARDS.
SO MINIMUM LOT SIZES ARE PROPOSED TO BE A MINIMUM OF TWO ACRES AND AT LEAST 50% OF THAT 89 ACRES WOULD REMAIN OPEN WOODED SPACE IN ITS NATURAL STATE, WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT 49 ACRES.
THE OPEN SPACE WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
AND AGAIN, THIS PROPOSED LAND USE THAT IS BEFORE YOU ALL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH REGARDS TO RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA DESIGNATIONS.
AND THE LOTS WILL BE SERVED BY PRIVATE WATER SEWER.
AND I KNOW THAT IT KIND OF SAYS IT IN THE NAME, BUT COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT DESIGNATION ABOUT RULE ENHANCEMENT AND WHAT IT TRIES TO ACCOMPLISH? YES, SIR.
DIVING IN A LITTLE FURTHER, EACH LOT, AS I MENTIONED AGAIN, WILL BE CLOSE TO THE MINIMUM OF TWO ACRES IN SIZE, PERHAPS A LITTLE OVER AGAIN THE FINAL PLAS.
ALL OF THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE FOR ANY DELINEATION.
UM, THERE WILL BE ONE ACCESS ONTO NEW LINE ROAD.
AGAIN, I MENTIONED THERE WAS A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS DONE.
ONE STUB CONNECTION DONE AT LEAST 50% OPEN SPACE, 200 FEET OF OPEN BUFFER SPACE ALONG NEW LINE ROADS.
SO THERE'S RIGHT OF WAY AGREEMENTS.
AND IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THERE IS AN EXISTING CEMETERY WITHIN THIS AREA AND THE ACCESS WILL BE PRESERVED BASED ON STATE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
THERE'S AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROFFERS, AGAIN, THE PROFFERS BASED ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED AND REVIEWED BY STAFF.
UM, IT IS BASED ON THE PREMISE OF NO MORE THAN 20 LOTS, THE CREATION OF AN HOA, THE RIGHT OF WAY, DESI NOT DESIGNATION, DEDICATION FOR NEW LINE ROAD AND TO MINIMIZE CLEARING ACTIVITIES BECAUSE OF THE RULE ENHANCEMENT AND PRESERVATION
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AREA IN WHICH THIS PROPOSED PROJECT IS LOCATED.AND THE OTHER REQUIREMENT OF PROVIDING ACCESS TO THE CEMETERY PER STATE CODE.
AND THEN AGAIN, UM, JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE COMMUNITY MEETING, WHICH I'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON FOR YOU ALL, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THEIR, UM, RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU ALL.
NO ONE SPOKE AT PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS HEARING ON THIS MATTER ON NOVEMBER 3RD.
IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY SPECIFIC IMPACTS OR QUESTIONS ON THE CAPITAL IMPACTS MODEL DONE, UM, AGAIN, THERE WAS NO CONTENTION ON THAT.
THE, UM, PROPOSED DEVELOPER AND APPLICANT AGREED ON THAT THEY HAD IT INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIED.
TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS TOUCHED ON.
UM, ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? YEAH, LET'S GO THROUGH THE PROFFERS IF YOU DON'T MIND.
AND I MAY REFER TO STAFF AS WELL FOR THE SPECIFICS BECAUSE I WAS NOT HERE FOR THE ENTIRE ORIGINATION OF ALL OF THIS, SO YES, SURE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO BACK TO THE MODEL OR THE BREAKDOWN OF THE ACTUAL PROFIT DEPARTMENT? NO, THIS IS, YEAH, THIS IS GREAT RIGHT HERE.
SO THERE'S REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PLAN FIRE PROTECTION IN OF ITSELF.
SO I THINK THE ONE PIECE, UM, THAT MAY BE OF INTEREST TO THOSE IN THIS ROOM AND FOR ALL OF US AS ONE OF OUR CORE PUBLIC SERVICES IS PUBLIC SAFETY IN THE INTEREST OF ENSURING ADEQUATE FIRE PROTECTION AND ADEQUATE ACCESS FOR OUR FIRE, UM, CAREER AND VOLUNTEER STAFF, IS THAT THEY WILL ACTUALLY HAVE A 10,000 GALLON WATER STORAGE TANK LOCATED WITHIN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL SERVE THAT COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY IF ALLOWED TO PROCEED.
IT WILL ALSO BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.
SOME OTHER OF THE PROFFER REQUIREMENTS IS THE SELECT LAND CLEARINGS TO MINIMIZE DISTURBANCE.
UM, AND PART OF THAT IS AGAIN, BASED ON THE RULE ENHANCEMENT AREA DESIGNATION, AS WELL AS UM, TRYING TO MINIMIZE WHAT WE DISTURBED NEAR WETLANDS, HAVING ANYTHING DELINEATED ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
HAVING A REQUIREMENT OF A HOA, THE PRESERVATION PLAN, WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE UNDISTURBED WILD AND NATURAL FORESTED LAND.
SO AGAIN, I MENTIONED THAT 49 ACRES WOULD ROUGHLY BE PRESERVED AS NATURAL STATE WITHIN THAT PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
IF PROCEEDS, ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON THOSE, THERE'S ALSO DENSITY NO MORE THAN THE 20 SINGLE FAMILIES, THE RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AND THE CEMETERY ACCESS AS WELL AS THE CASH PROFFER, WHICH EQUATES TO $12,000 PER HOME.
SO ITEM BACK ON ITEM TWO, THE FIRE PROTECTION, UH, WHICH IS GREAT.
AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT WILL BE BUILT BY THE DEVELOPER? YES MA'AM.
THE OWNER AND OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOA? YES MA'AM.
CAN WE INCLUDE THAT IN THE PROFFERS? YES, MA'AM.
UH, THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS I NOTICED SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED MAYBE SOMEONE WHO ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, MENTIONED INTERNET.
SO DO WE KNOW IF THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE RAPPAHANNOCK, UH, ELECTRIC, UM, DISTRICT OR, UM, DOMINION? DO WE KNOW? I WILL NEED TO DEFER.
SO WE CAN CHECK ON THAT TO STAFF AND GET YOU AN ANSWER.
THE, THE ROADS THAT ARE BEING BUILT IN THE SUBDIVISION, ARE THOSE GONNA BE BUILT TO VDOT STANDARDS? THEY INTEND TO HAVE THOSE BE MADE PUBLIC OR STAY PRIVATE.
IF THEY ARE NEW ROADS AND THEY BECOME PUBLIC IN ORDER TO BECOME PUBLIC, THEY WILL HAVE TO BE CURRENT VDOT STANDARDS.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT IS THAT THEIR INTENT? THAT'S MY QUESTION.
THEY INTEND TO KEEP 'EM PRIVATE OR DO THEY INTEND TO MAKE 'EM PUBLIC? THAT IS A QUESTION FOR, THEY WILL BE PUBLIC ROADS PUBLIC.
SO THE INTENT IS ONCE THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLETE THAT IT WOULD TRANSITION OVER TO BEING PART OF THE VDOT SYSTEM.
UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
IF I COULD JUST ADDRESS BRIEFLY YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
THE PROFFERS ALREADY REQUIRE THAT A HOMEOWNER CREATED AND BE RESPONSIBLE OPEN SPACE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS WHERE THE FIRE, BUT NOT THE WELLS, BUT NOT THE WELL, AND THE FIRE MAINTENANCE, THE STORAGE TANK.
THE, THE WELL LOT AND STORAGE TANK I BELIEVE ARE
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GOING TO BE BUILT ON THE, ON THE COMMON AREA.DOESN'T PROPERTY SAY THAT? THAT'S, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT AND I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SHOWN ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THOUGH.
WHERE IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN? HOLD PLEASE.
THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL AND MY EYES ARE BAD.
SO MR. CASH, COULD YOU PLEASE ASSIST WITH ACTUALLY MR, THIS IS MR. COLEMAN'S UM, CASE.
SO I WILL ASK HIM TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PLACEMENT.
I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT, THAT, CUZ WE'VE HAD OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE THEY WEREN'T MAINTAINED BY, NO ONE SEEMED TO KNOW WHO OWNED THEM AND MAINTAINED.
I JUST WANNA BE SURE WE GOT IT COVERED.
IT'S GONNA BE UP IN THAT AREA.
SO TOM COBER PRESS PLANNER FOOT BY 50 FOOT.
OKAY, SO THAT IS IN THE OPEN SPACE? YES.
ARROW, YOU CAN'T SEE IT BUT THERE'S ARROW HERE THAT GOES RIGHT HERE AS OH, I SEE.
I JUST WANTED, AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO BE SURE BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE ALL OF A SUDDEN NO ONE KNEW WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE MAINTAINING IT, WHO OWNS IT, ALL KINDS OF, SO AS LONG AS THAT'S COVERED, THANK YOU.
IF IT'S NOT CLEARLY DEFINED, IT CAN EASILY BE A SLIPPERY SLOPE.
MR. LIMPS, IF YOU COULD GO BACK A FEW SLIDES AND I'M SORRY I DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE LITTLE SLIDE NUMBER, BUT JUST BACK A LITTLE.
UM, UM, HOLD ON, LET'S SEE HERE.
WHEN THAT CAME UP ON THE SLIDE WHEN YOU GOT TO THIS, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE PROFFERS.
COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT'S ON 32? CUZ I DON'T HAVE THE SCREEN HERE.
IT'S AT THE BOTTOM, AT THE BOTTOM LEFT THERE.
GO ONE MORE CUZ I THINK IT'S, THERE WE GO.
SO PRESERVATION PLAN IS PROVIDED TO MAINTAIN DEDICATED OPEN SPACE UNDER DISTURB.
THE OPEN SPACE WILL BE MAINTAINED A PASSIVE AND WILL NOT INCLUDE TRAILS OR STRUCTURES THAT WILL INTERFERE WITH THE NATURAL SETTING.
SO WHEN YOU'VE FLASHED UP SLIDE 24, I THOUGHT IT WAS CONFUSING.
I THINK WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON OR WHAT'S BEFORE US IF WE APPROVE IT, IS THIS NOT THE EARLIER SLIDE, CORRECT? NO.
SO THIS IS NO TRAILS, NO STRUCTURES VERSUS WHAT YOU SHOWED US EARLIER.
LEGALLY IN THESE AREAS, RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREAS, WHEN YOU DO HAVE YOUR OPEN SPACE, YOU CAN HAVE PASSIVE AREAS.
HOWEVER, IN THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THE DEVELOPER AND THEIR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HAS ALREADY DESIGNATED AND COMMITTED IN ESSENCE THAT THEIR INTENT WITH THE OPEN SPACE WILL NOT BE TRAILS OR ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES MAINTENANCE OTHER THAN THE WATER TANK WILL BE ADJACENT TO IT AND IT WILL BE JUST A NATURAL WOODED STATE.
SO THERE, THERE'S THE OPTION TO DO IT THAT WE ALLOW PER COUNTY CODE WHAT THEY'VE SPECIFICALLY AGREED TO AND WHAT WE'VE DOCUMENTED IS THIS.
DOES THAT HELP CLARIFY? YEAH, I'M GOING, DOES IT, I'M GOING TO TREAT IT THAT THE PROFFER HAS PRESENTED IF WE APPROVE IT, THAT'S GOVERNING.
THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I NOTICED.
AND UM, MS. LAST COVERED STAFF, BEFORE WE ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME PORT MR. PETERSON, I'VE GOT ONE.
UM, AND YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO CALL A FRIEND.
UM, ARE THERE ANY REMAINING OPEN UNRESOLVED ISSUES FROM STAFF'S STANDPOINT ON THIS PROPOSAL? UH, UH NO.
NO ISSUES WERE MENTIONED IN STAFF REPORT? NO, SIR.
YEAH, I DIDN'T SEE ANY MENTIONED AND SOMETIMES HERE'S THE REMAINING, IT'S NOT COM IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN OR IT, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC SAYS PATTERN SAYS YOU SHOULDN'T DO IT AND THERE'S NO UNRESOLVED OPEN ISSUES FROM STAFF'S STANDPOINT.
GETTING LOTS OF CLICKER PRACTICE TONIGHT.
IS THE, DOES THE ABI WANT WISH TO SPEAK MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO PULL UP YOUR PRESENTATION? OH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
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GOOD EVENING.WELL, JAMIE SULLIVAN, ME, UM, UH, A LADY AND UH, GENTLEMAN OF THE BOARD, UH, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT.
I LIVE AT 1921 HOUNDS LOWER LANE MANNEQUIN SAB.
I'M WITH, UH, RESOURCE INTERNATIONAL AND ENGINEERING FIRM AND I'M REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
THE APPLICANT IS OLIVER'S TRAIL, LLC.
WITH ME IS MANAGER AND THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
HE IS A, UH, UH, A HOME BUILDER, HAS BEEN A HOME BUILDER AND, UH, UH, ROOT THE GREATER RICHMOND AND CENTRAL BRIDGE AREA FOR OVER 30 YEARS BUILDING CUSTOM HOMES.
AND HE IS THE ONE THAT HAD THE VISION TO START OLIVER'S TRAIL.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING A PROJECT, AND I'M NOT GONNA BELABOR A LOT OF THINGS THE STAFF HAS COVERED, BUT WE'RE PROPOSING A PROJECT WE BELIEVE IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY'S WORLD STRATEGIES.
UH, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL, UH, PRESERVATION AREA AND WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD 20 LOTS, UH, WITH, UH, PUBLIC, UH, WHICH ARE ROADS BUILT TO VDOT STANDARDS, WHICH WE HOPE WILL EVENTUALLY BE TAKEN INTO THE VDOT SYSTEM.
THE, UH, PROFFERS, UH, BASICALLY ARE RESTRICTING THE LOTS, 20 LOTS.
THEY'RE APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES.
THE OPEN SPACE AS REPORTED WAS 44 AND A HALF ACRES.
BUT I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO KNOW THAT WE ARE ALSO OFFERING VERY LIMITED CLEARING ON THE PROPERTY.
WE ESTIMATE THAT EACH LOT WILL PROBABLY CLEAR AN AREA FOR APPROXIMATELY HALF AN ACRE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT LIKE 75 ACRES OF, OF BASICALLY LAND THAT WILL STAY AS IT IS NOW IN FORESTS.
A LOT OF THE RPS OWNINGS THAT YOU HAVE, OR MORE AGRICULTURAL SETTINGS, THIS IS A FOREST SETTING THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND WE FAIL.
AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT KEEPING THE NATURAL STATE THE NATURAL HABITAT, ALLOWING THE NATURAL, UM, UH, UH, HABITATS TO EXIST WITH THE ANIMALS THAT ARE IN PLACE AND FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY IT IN A NATURAL STATE.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE DID NOT PROFFER TRAILS IN, UH, ACTIVE RECREATION.
WE FELT THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE LAND THE WAY IT WAS AS OPPOSED TO MANUFACTURING.
ALSO WITH 20, 20 LOTS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DENSITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE WALKING TRAILS AND THAT SORT OF THING CUZ THEY'RE PROBABLY RUNNING KIDS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR TO, TO SOCCER OR WHATEVER.
AND, UH, THEY'LL PROBABLY WALK ALONG THE ROAD IF THEY WANT EXERCISE.
UM, UH, QUICKLY, A COUPLE OF POINTS.
THE FIRE PROTECTION WILL BE, UH, PROPOSED NOT ONLY FOR THE SUBDIVISION AS REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE, BUT ALSO WILL BE FIRE PROTECTION THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IF THEY HAVE TO PUT OUT A FIRE IN THAT AREA AND KNOWS IT HAS 10,000 GALLONS OF WATER THAT THEY CAN LOAD UP AND BRING TO PUT OUT A FIRE.
SO IT'S A COMMUNITY ENHANCEMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO ADD FIVE MORE FEETS THE RIGHT OF WAY OF NEWLY ROAD.
EVENTUALLY, WHEN IT'S, UH, REQUIRES WIDENING, WE ARE, UH, PUTTING A CLUSTER MAILBOX INTERIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT THE POST POSTAL SERVICE EMPLOYEE CAN DRIVE OFF OF NEWLINE ROAD, DO THEIR BUSINESS, TURN AROUND AND GO BACK ON NEWLINE ROAD SO PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO GO AROUND THEM WHEN THEY'RE GOING DOWN NEWLINE ROAD.
WE THINK THAT'S A SAFETY ISSUE THAT'S OF BENEFIT TO EVERYBODY.
THERE IS AN EXISTING CEMETERY ON SITE.
IT WILL HAVE ACCESS, IT WILL HAVE PARKING, IT WILL BE ADJACENT TO A HOMEOWNER.
SOMEBODY EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT KEEPING, UM, VANDALS OFF OR PEOPLE THAT WOULD DUMP.
WELL, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, BASICALLY RIGHT NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL STEADING.
THE HOMO ASSOCIATION WILL BE VIGILANT AND WILL BE ABLE TO OBSERVE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS AND PREVENT THEM FROM HAPPENING.
UH, THE PRESERVATION PLAN IS AS, AS WE STATE HOMO ASSOCIATION WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO EXPECT THE AREA ON A CONTINUING BASIS.
WE WOULD ASSUME THEY WOULD HAVE, UH, MAYBE ANNUAL OR ANNUAL INSPECTIONS.
THEY WILL HAVE FUNDS IN PLACE TO MAINTAIN ANY ISSUES THAT AREN'T NATURAL, UH, CLEAR RIGHT AWAY, UH, FALLEN TREES TO CREATE, UH, EROSION PROBLEMS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, BUT, UM, IT WILL BE FUNDED AND, UH, THEY WILL HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO ACHIEVE IT.
THIS IS A, THIS WAS AN ILLUSTRATION OF BASICALLY WHAT WE THINK WILL BE THE CLEARED AREA OF, OF A 89 ACRE PARCEL THAT IS, UH, WOODED.
WE THINK THIS REALLY MEETS THE INTENT OF THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT.
UM, I THINK WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL END THE, UH, PRESENTATION AND BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
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CALL MR. VARS.YEAH, NO, MR. CHIEF FERGUSON, I'M GONNA DISRUPT YOU.
ARE, ARE YOU IN LINE, ARE YOU IN LINE WITH THE FIRE PROTECTION PLAN? I JUST ASK THAT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE SAFETY PROTOCOLS FOR A NEW DEVELOPMENT, SIR.
EDDIE FERGUSON FIRE RESCUE CHIEF.
UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT THIS, UH, THE, IF YOU BUILD A SUBDIVISION AND ONCE YOU HIT THE 11TH, UH, HOME AND A SUBDIVISION, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE DRY HYDRANT.
IF THERE'S NO WATER IMPALMENT ON SITE, THEN YOU'RE ABLE TO PUT IN A 10,000 GALLON UNDERGROUND CISTERN.
UH, WHEN YOU HIT THE, UH, 75TH HOME AND A SUBDIVISION, THEN IT REQUIRES TWO OF THOSE.
AND IF YOU HAVE, UH, WATER ON SITE, THEN MORE THAN THREE ACRES, IT REQUIRES TWO DRY HYDRANTS.
SO THAT, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, UM, I THINK WE'RE COVERED ON THAT WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT SUBDIVISIONS AS FAR AS, UH, THE NUMBER OF HOMES, UM, OUR, OUR COUNTY CODE SAYS THAT TWO ENTRANCES ARE REQUIRED ON THE SUBDIVISION, UH, WHEN YOU HIT THE 49TH, UH, GO WITH THE 49TH HOME.
UH, AND THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE, UH, THE FIRE CODE HAS IN IT.
IT WAS AN EXCEPTION THAT THE COUNTY MADE WHEN THE FIRE CODE WAS ADOPTED, UH, TO APPENDIX D.
AND SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
IF THERE'S SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER 'EM.
THANK YOU FOR THE UNEXPECTED CALL UP.
BEFORE YOU GO AWAY, SINCE I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ROAD WITH AS AS IT RELATES TO CAR APPARATUS AND HOW DOES, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL? SO THE, THE FIRE CODE BASICALLY, UH, TALKS ABOUT FIRE ACCESS ROADS.
THEY HAVE TO BE, UH, 20 FEET WIDE AND THEY, AND HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT 75,000 POUNDS.
AND HOW THEY COME UP WITH THAT, THAT PREMISE IS THAT, UH, WHEN THE LADDER TRUCKS ARE SET UP AND THE, UH, JACKS ARE EXTENDED OUT, IT TAKES ROUGHLY 18 TO 20 FEET OF ROADWAY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT TO SET UP A LADDER TRUCK.
AND THE 75,000 POUNDS IS THE, IS THE WEIGHT, UH, TYPICALLY OF THE HEAVIEST FIRE APPARATUS, WHICH IS THE LADDER TRUCK.
IF YOU HAVE, UH, FIRE HYDRANTS ON THE SAME ROADWAY, THEN IT, THE STATE FIRE PREVENTION CODE SAYS THAT THE ROAD WIDTH HAS TO BE 26 FEET, UH, IN WIDTH.
AND WOULD THERE BE PARKING A LOT ALONG THOSE ROADWAYS? UM, NOW THAT WOULD BE, SO IF MY QUESTION IS ARE THERE GONNA BE NO PARKING SIGNS? RIGHT.
AND UNLESS, UNLESS THE SUBDIVISION ROADS ARE, ARE BUILT TO A CERTAIN WIDTH, I WANNA SAY IT'S, UH, ROUGHLY 30, 36 FEET OR SO, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO, UM, YOU COULD PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROADS WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF PARKING SIGNS, BUT, UH, FROM THE, FROM THE WIDTH OF THESE ROADS.
UM, CAN I ASK FOR CLARIFICATION ON WHAT THE WIDTH OF THE ROAD WAS? IT WOULD BE 20 AND THAT WOULD'VE 50 FOOT RIGHT AWAY.
AND SO THIS, THIS BEING A RURAL SUBDIVISION, I WOULD, I WOULD NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT CLOSER.
UH, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT, UH, AN RP UD OR, UH, THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT OKAY.
WHERE THESE FIRE HYDRANT SIGNS HAVE, UH, COME INTO PLAY, UH, RECENTLY SUCH AS, UH, FOR SOME OF THE NEW SUBDIVISIONS IN THE, UH, EAST END OF THE COUNTY.
SO I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE PLANS CLOSER, BUT I DON'T THINK, UH, AT THAT POINT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'D BE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME SITUATION.
I THINK OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY'S LOOKING AT ME.
WELL, AND, AND TO BE FAIR CHIEF, THAT THE ACTUAL WIDTH OF THE SUBDIVISION ROADS COMES IN THROUGH THE P D.
THEY'RE GETTING THEIR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA SHOW THE WIDTH OF THE ROADS, WHETHER IT'S CURB AND GUTTER AND SO FORTH.
AND SO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE ROADS THEY SUBMIT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT, THERE ISN'T ANYTHING IN WHAT'S HE'S PRESENTED TONIGHT THAT COMMITS THIS CASE TO A PARTICULAR WIDTH OF ROAD.
DOING THE P D I GUESS MY ONLY LIKE A BETTER WORD, PUSHBACK ON THAT WOULD BE, WELL, IF THE ROAD'S WIDER, THEN YOU'RE GONNA GET LESS LOTS BECAUSE IF WE, WE WERE HAVING SITUATIONS WHERE SIGNS ARE GOING UP AFTER AND, UH, PEOPLE WHO THOUGHT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, USE THEIR CUL-DE-SAC TO PARK CAN, UM, IF THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE, THAT'S GREAT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO BE BELIEVE HER TONIGHT, AS LONG AS IT'S, IT'S ADDRESSED.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT CLOSELY AT THE, UH, THE P D ONCE THE PLANS ARE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I JUST, THE DOVETAIL ON THAT, I GUESS SOME OF THE LONGER CUL-DE-SAC.
IS THERE ROOM FOR THE LADDER TRUCK TO DO A U-TURN OR JUST HAVE TO BACK ALL THE WAY DOWN THE RIGHT? THE CUL-DE-SAC WILL HAVE TO MEET THE, UM, THE CORRECT SIZE.
I THINK IT'S 96 FEET, UH, IN ORDER FOR THE, UH, FIRE APPARATUS TO COME IN AND BE ABLE TO, TO MAKE THE TURN, UH, AND, AND NAVIGATE THE CUL-DE-SAC.
AND THAT IS VERY, UH, SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED IN THE VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE, APPENDIX D AS TO WHAT DEVELOPERS HAVE TO MEET TO UH, BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE FIRE PREVENTION CODE.
THANK ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE CHIEF VOICE? RIGHT.
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YOU SIR.MS. QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO, UM, YOUR SLIDE RIGHT THERE, THE LAST SLIDE IS A COMMUNITY OF CUSTOM BUILT HOMES BY AN EXPERIENCE BUILDING NATURAL FOREST SETTING.
YOU EMPHASIZE IN YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT MINIMAL LOT, LOT CLEARING AND MINIMAL CLEARING.
YOUR PROFFER THOUGH HAS AN EXCEPTION AT THE END THAT YOU, WE COULD DRIVE ONE OF OUR NEW LADDER TRUCKS THROUGH.
IT SAYS LAND DISTURBANCE AREA SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE FOLLOWING.
MINIMUM CLEARING IS NEEDED FOR ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND IMPROVEMENTS.
B, PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF THE INITIAL CO FOR THE DWELLING ON EACH LOT, ONE LOT CLEARING FOR HOUSE AND OUTBUILDING FOUNDATION AND DRAIN FIELD.
TWO SELECTIVE LOT CLEARING WITHIN 40 FEET OF THE HOUSE.
THAT'S PRIOR TO THE INITIAL CO.
THEN IT GOES ON TO SAY THIS ENTIRE PROFFER ONLY APPLIES PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF THE INITIAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THE DWELLING.
SO THAT CUTS AGAINST THE COMMITMENT TO HAVE LESS CLEARING.
NOW I KNOW CLEARING COSTS MONEY, SO YOU PROBABLY ARE NOT GONNA DO MORE CLEARING THAN YOU WANT CAMERA.
WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THAT? IS IT TO ALLOW LOT OWNERS UNIMPEDED TO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY MOVE IN IF THEY WANT TO CLEAR MORE? UM, AND I'M SAYING THIS FROM MY, PER MY PERSPECTIVE AND I'M GONNA TIE IT INTO MY SECOND CONCERN.
THERE ARE NO, NO PROS AS TO MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OR ANY LOOK, UH, YOU KNOW, MATERIALS AND WHAT, SO I KNOW IT'S RURAL PEOPLE ARE GONNA MOVE TO THIS PART OF THE COUNTY FOR THE RURAL AND THE LARGER LOTS AND ALL THAT.
BUT ECONOMY COULD CHANGE SOME THINGS.
AND IF I MOVE OUT THERE AND THE FIRST FEW HOUSES ARE NICE, BUT THE ECONOMY TURNS ON US, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN I GOT ON THIS BOARD THAT I WAS SURPRISED THE COUNTY DOESN'T DO, AND I THINK OTHER COUNTIES DO IS LOOK FOR IN THESE PROFFERS OR INVITE THE PROFFERS OR YOURS, NOT THE COUNTIES.
BUT, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT BE RECEPTIVE TO SEEING PROFFERS THAT ACTUALLY, UH, CONFIRMED.
WHAT I THINK IS THE INTENTION HERE IS TO BUILD NICE HOMES ON NICE SIZE LOTS.
I HAVE CONCERNS THAT YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE A BIG GAP IN YOUR MINIMAL LAND CLEARING AND YOU MAKE NO COMMITMENT AS TO THE, UH, SIZE NATURE OF THE HOMES.
I, I, UH, I WILL SAY, UH, AND I'M NOT GONNA, I'LL NEED SOME HELP FROM THE STAFF AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
WE, WE BASICALLY HAD THE PRO PROFFER THEIR WAY.
IT IS ACTUALLY, IT WAS A STAFF REQUEST TO PUT THE LAST ITEM IN.
AND I DON'T, UH, THE FEELING IS MAYBE AFTER HOMEOWNER MOVE IN, THEY NEED SOME FREEDOM TO DO SOMETHING AND, UH, THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL IT WAS RESTRICTIVE.
UH, CERTAINLY THE COVENANTS OF RESTRICTIONS OF HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION BYLAWS WILL HAVE SOME CERTAIN PROVISIONS IN THERE TO MAINTAIN THE INTENT OF THE SUBDIVISION IN TERMS OF CLEARING MAYBE C TREES OR SOMETHING IN TERMS OF DANGER.
I, I CAN'T, UH, UH, THINK OF A REASON WHY SOMEONE COULDN'T MAKE AN APPLICATION FIVE YEARS FROM NOW TO PUT IN A, A GARAGE OR, OR SOMETHING THAT MAY REQUIRE SOME LAND CLEARING.
SO MY, MY SENSE IS GIVE THE HOMEOWNER A LITTLE FREEDOM, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE APPLICANT, UH, AS A CUSTOM HOME BUILDER.
HE'S INTERESTED IN BUILDING NICE HOMES CUZ THAT'S WHAT HE DOES.
UH, AND WE DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY PUT IN, UM, UH, RESTRICTIONS IN TERMS OF PEOPLE'S ARCHITECTURE BECAUSE WITH ENOUGH LAND, PEOPLE CAN BUILD A VARIETY OF CUSTOM HOMES, UM, THAT HAVE THE AMENITIES APPROPRIATELY.
DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT? IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOUR CONCERNS NOT EXPLICITLY ADDRESSED, AND IT'S FOCUSED ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, IS BECAUSE ONCE THOSE HOMES ARE ACTUALLY TURNED OVER TO PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS AND INDIVIDUALS NOT WANTING TO BE OVERLY RESTRICTIVE TO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS ONCE THEY OBTAIN THAT OWNERSHIP.
SO ON THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, AS THEY ARE DEVELOPING THE PROFFERS AND THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT THEY DO HAVE IS INTENTIONAL IN TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE LAND CLEARING IN ANY LAND DISTURBANCE.
HOWEVER, ONCE SOMEONE PURCHASES IT, IF THEY WANT TO PUT IN A NICE LITTLE FRONT YARD FOUNTAIN OR OTHER THINGS THAT PEOPLE SO MAY CHOOSE TO DO, THERE'S CERTAIN RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES THAT FOLKS HAVE AS AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE OVERLY RESTRICTIVE PREEMPTIVELY.
I I UNDERST I JUST WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT THE LOGIC BECAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A REPRESENTATION OF, TO ME THERE WAS A REPRESENTATION OF A CERTAIN LOOK AND FEEL, BUT THE, BUT THE PROFFERS PULLED UP SHORT OF WHAT? AND, AND AGAIN, AND THE REASON I MADE MY COMMENT ABOUT I THINK OTHER COUNTIES PUT THESE THINGS OUT, I'M NOT LOOKING TO BECOME MORE RESTRICTED.
BUT THE FEAR IS NOW THIS IS A SMALLER SUBDIVISION, YOU'LL PROBABLY GET IT DONE.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE FINANCIAL AND THE STRUCTURE, BUT WHEN WE'RE DOING LARGER SUBDIVISIONS, I'LL SOMETIMES WONDER IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE THINGS IN THERE.
THE SUBDIVISION GETS HALFWAY BUILT AND THINGS,
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THE ECONOMY TAKES A TURN FOR THE WORSE.THE BANKS, I MEAN, I'VE, I'M A LAWYER AND I, WHEN THE COLLAPSE HOUSING IN NICE NEIGHBORHOODS WERE BEING TAKEN OVER BY THE RESOLUTION TRUST CORPORATION AND THEY'RE DUMPING LOTS.
SO IF I, A FEW YEARS AGO BUILT A NICE HOUSE ON A NICE LOT HALFWAY THROUGH, AND THEN, AND THEN SUDDENLY THE BANK'S TAKING OVER ALL THE LOTS BECAUSE THE BUILDER WENT BELLY UP, UM, THEN, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WHAT IT'S ALL BETS ARE OFF OR WHAT'S GONNA BE COMING UP AROUND ME.
SO THE PROFFERS PROTECT, I THINK THAT I'M NOT LOOKING FOR RESTRICTIVE PROFFERS.
AND IF YOU'RE MOVING TO THIS PART OF THE COUNTY, YOU WANT THE FREEDOM.
YOU DON'T WANT TO GO ASK SOMEBODY PERMISSION.
EVEN IN, IN MORE DENSE AREAS, PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO NECESSARILY HAVE TO ASK THEIR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, CAN I CUT DOWN A TREE? AMEN.
AND AGAIN, I WAS RELAYING STAFF'S INTENT, MR. SO I JUST, I I'M GOOD.
I JUST, UH, PUT THAT OUT THERE FOR SOMETHING TO, TO THINK ABOUT.
AND, UH, AND I, YOU KNOW, I HOPE IT GOES WELL.
BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS I, I THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW IS IT GONNA PLAY OUT OVER THE YEARS THAT YOU'RE GONNA BUILD THE HOUSES.
THIS LAST CUT GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE APPROVAL OR, UH, DENIAL OF THIS CASE, BUT WHO IS THE ELECTRIC SERVER SERVICE HERE? I WOULD HAVE TO SAY I'M SORRY.
MR. PETERSON, MR. CHAIR, UM, THIS MAY BE VERY PREMATURE AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT KIND OF PRICE POINT YOU'RE TARGETING HERE? OR IS THAT TOO EARLY TO TELL? DAVID, DO YOU HAVE ANY? I MEAN, IT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN A CUSTOM HOUSE, THE MARKET DETERMINES THAT, BUT DAVID'S NOT IN, IN THE, UH, IN THE MANUFACTURED HOUSING BUSINESS.
HE'S BUILT NICE HOMES AND I THINK IF YOU BUILD ONE NICE HOME, YOU DON'T, YOU WANNA KEEP IT GOING.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE AVERAGE OF HIS LAST 25 OR 50 HOUSES? IS THAT A FAIR QUESTION TO ASK? I MEAN, I JUST DID GOOD TO KNOW.
UM, WHAT WAS THAT QUESTION AGAIN? JUST SAY IF WE, IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, IT'S VERY ECONOMICALLY DRIVEN.
WHAT IS YOUR HISTORY IN THE LAST 25? I I I GO OFF? WELL RIGHT NOW WE'RE BUILDING PROBABLY MOSTLY SIX TO 800,000.
WE HAVE ONE IN MANNEQUINS HABIT FOR 1.3 MILLION CURRENTLY.
UM, IT'S VERY ECONOMICALLY DRIVEN.
IT COSTS SO MUCH TO BUILD ROADS RIGHT NOW THAT THE PRICE POINT HAS TO BE X AND THEN IF SOMEBODY WANTS MORE, IT GOES UP FROM THERE.
THAT, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE KIND OF ANSWER I WANTED TO HEAR.
THANK YOU MR. AND TO RESPOND TO THE UTILITY SERVICE PROVIDER FOR ELECTRIC, IT'S HANOCK ELECTRIC.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT.
OKAY FOLKS, WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS FOR OR AGAINST THIS APPLICATION, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS AND KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
DO I NEED TO RESTATE MY NAME? YES, PLEASE.
YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
LIKE THIS TECHNOLOGY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING.
RODNEY SNE, MANNEQUIN SIDE, VIRGINIA 23, UM, 1145.
WOODS EDGE LANE, MANNEQUIN SIDE, VIRGINIA 2 31 0 3.
UM, QUESTION IS ON ONE I APPRECIATE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS BEING DONE BY A LEADERSHIP.
I'LL TRY TO TURN THE FACE, GIVE A LITTLE TIE LIKE DRIVING THE TRACTOR TRAILER TRUCK.
UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR WATER TOWER.
UM, RURAL AREAS WE HAVE OUT HERE OUR OWN WELLS.
UM, AS MORE PEOPLE MOVE OUT HERE, I'M ALREADY BEEN LIVING OUT HERE FOR A WHILE.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WATER TOWER CONCERNED.
I'VE SEEN ENRICHMENT AND AROUND THE NATION.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE NO LEAD.
CAN'T MAKE YOUR PIPES OUTTA LEAD.
WHO IS GONNA BE MAINTAINING THESE THINGS IN THE FUTURE? ONCE YOU GUYS DIE, YOU AIN'T RUNNING AL CAUSE YOU'RE IN A GRAVE.
SO WHO IS GONNA BE MAINTAINING THIS, UM, LONG TERM? HMM, MR. WHAT? THANK YOU.
AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE APP CAN COME UP AND ADDRESS ALL THE QUESTIONS AT THE END.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT HEARING, PUBLIC HEARING.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS WHAT WAS STATED IN THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, ONE POINT IS THESE LOTS WILL BE ON PRIVATE WELD
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AND SEPTIC.A UH, THE HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION WILL BE THE ONES THAT MAINTAIN THE FIRE PROTECTION.
THEY'LL KEEP THE WELL, UH, IN PLACE AND THE, THE, THE CONTROLS WHICH WILL AUTOMATICALLY MAINTAIN THE LEVEL IN THE TANK, UH, AT, AT ALL TIMES.
AND IT'LL BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, THEIR FINANCIAL AND OPERATIONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
SO IT'LL BE TURNED OVER ONCE THE HOA AND THAT WILL GO ON IN IN PERPETUITY.
SO IT'S NOT RELYING ON A CERTAIN PERSON OR, EXACTLY.
UNLESS AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE COUNTY, UH, WISHES TO, UH, TAKE IT OVER AS PART OF THEIR FIRE PROTECTION SYSTEM.
THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT BOARD I CAN ASSURE YOU.
WELL, YEAH, THAT'S MERRY CHRISTMAS.
BOARD, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? MISSLES, LET READY FOR A MOTION? I'M, IF YOU ARE READY TO MAKE ONE.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE APPROVAL OF RZ 2 0 0 2 0 2 2 0 0 0 9 FOR 89.504 ACRES, UH, FROM AGRICULTURAL TO RESIDENTIAL PRESERVATION WITH THE PROFF CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR THIRD CASE.
[3. 5542: Countywide - ZOA-2022-00001 - Amendment to Zoning Ordinance Sections]
BACK AGAIN.I'M CRYSTAL ANNIS, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
SO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, YOU HAVE FOR CONSI REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION A PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT, UM, RELATED TO LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITIES.
AND BEFORE I GET TOO DEEP, I WILL FIND THE CLICKER SINCE WE LIKE SCREENS HERE.
SO JUST A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW.
THIS ZONING AMENDMENT PROPOSES, UH, LANGUAGE THAT WOULD LEGALLY ALLOW A LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY TO EXIST, UM, IN CERTAIN AREAS AS DESIGNATED BY ZONING WITHIN THE COUNTY.
SO IN OCTOBER, THE BOARD ACTUALLY HAD REFERRED A PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT, UM, FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
PLANNING COMMISSION MET ON NOVEMBER 3RD.
REVIEWED, HEARD THE MATTER AS FAR AS THE ZONING AMENDMENT FOR COUNTYWIDE CONSIDERATION.
UM, FOUR CITIZENS SPOKE ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT, ONE IN OPPOSITION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED FIVE TO ZERO TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT BE ADOPTED.
SO IT'S NOTICE MIGHT BE A GREAT IDEA.
SO WE'VE GOT TWO CASES HERE THAT ARE CONNECTED AND MAYBE WE JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THOSE CASES ARE CONNECTED, WHAT THE PEOPLE CAN EXPECT TO SEE FOR CASE ONE, THEN CASE TWO.
SO IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THERE IS A COMPANION CASE THAT ALSO CENTERS ON THIS.
THERE IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UM, THAT WILL BE FOLLOWING THIS ORDINANCE FOR YOUR REVIEWING CONSIDERATION TONIGHT AS WELL.
AND WE'LL ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, AND THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW A LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY AND A SPECIFIC AREA OF GLAND COUNTY.
SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE ORDINANCES DON'T SUPPORT THAT TYPE YET.
WE HAVE ONE CASE TO ADDRESS THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.
AND THEN ONCE THE ORDINANCE BECAME, OKAY, IT'S LEGAL, NOW WE CAN ADDRESS THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HOW WE GOT HERE.
SO INITIALLY THERE WAS SOME OUTREACH AS OUR OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONTINUALLY SEEKS OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT FROM OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND OUR AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH COMMUNITY NEEDS AND HOW TO BEST SUPPORT THEM.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS LEARNED IS THAT OUR FARMERS, AS WE WORK TO MAINTAIN THAT 85 15, THE 85% REMAINING RURAL AGRICULTURAL, 15% RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THEY FACE, THOSE THAT ACTUALLY ENGAGE IN LIVESTOCK, UM, FARMING, THEY HAVE A CHALLENGE WITH REGARDS TO OBTAINING ANY KIND OF MEAT PROCESSING ANYWHERE LOCALLY, LET ALONE SOMETIMES IN A TIMELY FASHION.
THERE'S WAIT LISTS YEAR, TWO YEARS.
UM, SO OFTEN THE FACILITIES ARE BOOKED OUT.
SO DURING THIS EFFORT AND OUTREACH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE WAS ACTUALLY APPROACHED BY A COMPANY, AN INDIVIDUAL INTERESTED IN CONSTRUCTING A POTENTIAL MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY THAT WOULD MEET U S D A CERTIFIED REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
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LONG AND SHORT OF IT IS PLANNING STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY ON A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT ACTUALLY IS BEING CONSIDERED HERE TONIGHT FOR A ZONING AMENDMENT TO ALLOW MEAT PROCESSING WITHIN THE COUNTY IN SPECIFIC AREAS, WHICH I WILL GET TO IN.SO RIGHT DOWN THERE IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, AMENDING THIS AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS IN THE AGRICULTURAL AND INDUSTRIAL LOCATIONS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
SO WE HAVE YOUR, IT WOULD BE ALLOWING IT IN YOUR A ONE AND IN YOUR, I BELIEVE IT IS M TWO DISTRICTS.
SO LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THE USE DEFINITION OF WHAT CONSTITUTES A MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY LIMITED.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE LIMITED BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IS CENTERED ON, IS HOW DO WE MEET THE NEEDS OF THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY BUT HAVE SOMETHING THAT IS STILL LIMITED IN SIZE AND NON-INDUSTRIAL SCALE, I E SMITHFIELD, RIGHT? OR TYSONS? UM, SO FOR THIS, THE PREMISE IS THAT NO FACILITY IF ERECTED OR PUT INTO OPERATION CAN EXCEED 10,000 SQUARE FEET AS FAR AS PROCESSING SPACE, THAT DOES NOT CONSTITUTE IF THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE OR IF THEY HAVE AN OUT SHED TO STORE, YOU KNOW, UM, WHAT DO I WANNA SAY, TRACTOR, OTHER SUCH THINGS.
IT'S THE FACILITY ITSELF AND THE, ANY SUCH FACILITY THAT WOULD BE, UM, ERECTED OR PUT INTO OPERATION IF THIS ZONING AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, WOULD HAVE TO STILL GO THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.
AND THIS WOULD ONLY APPLY TO AREAS IN THE A ONE AND M TWO DISTRICTS.
AND THERE'S ALSO ACREAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT, WHICH I WILL GET TO IN JUST A MOMENT BECAUSE I LOVE THE CLICKER SO MUCH.
SO WE'RE, WE HAVE SOME USE STANDARDS THAT ARE ALSO BEING PROPOSED IN THIS ZONING AMENDMENT.
SO LOOKING AT IN CONSIDERATION OF RELATIONSHIP TO NEARBY RESIDENCES, DISTANCE TO OTHER SIMILAR FACILITIES, GENERAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA, POTENTIAL IMPACT TO ADJOINING PROPERTY.
SO HENCE THAT'S WHERE THE GUIDELINE CAME IN.
AND PROPOSAL OF A ONE M TWO, UM, REQUIRING A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK FROM ROAD AND PROPERTY LINES OF ANYTHING THAT'S ADJACENT, UM, MEETING APPLICABLE ANY AND ALL FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATIONS.
AND THAT'S UNDER THE ZONING REGULATIONS, RIGHT? SO THE ZONING AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE THAT, THAT THEY MEET REGULATIONS.
SO SAY A FACILITY COMES IN AND WANTS TO OPEN, THEY WOULD ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE MEETING ANY FACILITY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, RIGHT? SO DEPENDING ON YOUR SIZE, IF YOU'RE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR 2000 SQUARE FEET OR 10,000 SQUARE FEET, THERE CAN BE DIFFERENT REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS BY FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATORS.
SO IT WOULD BE SITE SPECIFIC, BUT IT IS SPELLED OUT IN THE ZONING AMENDMENT THAT ANYONE WHO WOULD OBTAIN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IF THE ZONING AMENDMENT MOVES FORWARD, WOULD STILL HAVE TO APPLY WITH APPLIC APPLICABLE STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
AND ALSO ADDING IN A BUFFER OF 30 FEET, UH, WITH ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS, YOU KNOW, NATURAL BARRIERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO GOING BACK TO THE MENTION OF WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THIS COULD BE BASED ON FEEDBACK AND, UM, FITTING CHARACTER, THE A ONE AREA LOOKING AT THE LOT HAS TO BE A MINIMUM OF 25 ACRES OR MORE.
AND IF IT WERE TO OCCUR IN M TWO, WHICH IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, IT WOULD NEED TO BE FIVE ACRES OR MORE.
ALL PROCESSING, UH, WOULD HAVE TO BE ENCLOSED IN A BUILDING IN OR STRUCTURE NO OUTSIDE STORAGE RELATING TO THE PROCESSING IN OF ITSELF.
AND ANIMALS, IF THEY WERE TO BE KEPT OVERNIGHT, ANY LIVESTOCK, UH, HAVE TO BE IN A FULLY ENCLOSED SECURE AREA, MEANING A PEN, BARN, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
OVERNIGHT SUPERVISION, UH, MAY DONE AND IS REQUIRED.
IT COULD BE ELECTRONIC MEANS, OR ACTUALLY HAVING SOMEONE THAT STAYS ON SITE AND NO MORE THAN 50 ANIMALS OVERNIGHT.
AND AGAIN, SO ALL OF THESE PROPOSED ITEMS TIE INTO A ZONING AMENDMENT THAT WOULD, IF ADOPTED, ALLOW FOR A LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY OF NO MORE THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET IN A ONE OR M TWO AREAS.
QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION JUST TO GO BACK TO WHAT I THINK YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE PROCESS.
SO THIS IS, WE HAVE A RELATED C P COMING UP NEXT.
SO THIS IS JUST THE ZONING QUESTION.
SO FOR THIS, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO EVERYBODY WILL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO DEBATE THE ZONING CASE.
IF THE ZONING CASE FAILS, THEN PROBABLY THE C P WILL GO AWAY BECAUSE IT WON'T BE PERMITTED.
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ZONING CASE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WHAT THIS BOARD'S TALKING ABOUT AND WHAT WE'RE INVITING THE PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON NOW IS JUST WHETHER WE WILL EVEN CONSIDER ALLOWING THESE UNDER THE, UNDER THE, WHAT YOU DESCRIBED HERE IN A 1 25 ACRES OR MORE ON A ONE OR FIVE ACRES OR MORE ON M TWO, CORRECT? RIGHT.JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT PROCESS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ORDER OF THINGS AND WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON.
AND AGAIN, UM, I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING AND APOLOGIES IF I CUT YOU OFF THERE, MR. WILKINS.
UM, IF THE ZONING AMENDMENT DID PROCEED AS PROPOSED THIS EVENING, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THEN THERE ARE USE STANDARDS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE ZONING AMENDMENT, UM, THAT IF ACCEPTED WOULD GUIDE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS PRIOR TO EVEN BECOMING, UM, SOMETHING FOR CONSIDERATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR YOURSELVES IN THAT, UM, IT'S SPELLING OUT THAT IT HAS TO BE REVIEWED BASED ON RELATIONSHIP TO NEARBY RESIDENCIES, DISTANCE TO OTHER SIMILAR FACILITIES, GENERAL CHARACTER OF AREA AND POTENTIAL IMPACTS.
SO THAT DOES PROMPT A QUESTION.
THE HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY, IS THAT, IS THAT A DICTATE OF THE ORDINANCE OR IS THAT A, IS THAT A USE STANDARD THAT CAN BE ADJUSTED ON EACH CASE? I'M GONNA CALL A FRIEND PHONE A FRIEND ON THAT ONE.
SO BASICALLY WE'RE MAKING THAT THE BASE STANDARD C P CONDITION IS, THAT'S OUR EXPECTATION WITH EACH CASE IS UNDER FOOT SETBACK.
DOESN'T MEAN THEY COULDN'T AN APPLICANT CAN PROVIDE MORE OR IN A CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCE, WE CONSIDER THAT WE'D HAVE A GREATER, UM, CONDITION TO IMPOSE, UM, YOU KNOW, OKAY.
WE OFTEN, WE OFTEN COME OUT AS WE, WE GO AND WORK WITH PEOPLE WITH CASES WE LOOK IN, WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS THAT POTENTIALLY, UM, WE'D EXPECT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE BASED UPON THE CIRCUMSTANCE.
UM, YOU'LL SEE IN THIS CASE COMING UP, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT THE BASE ORDINANCE HAS PROVIDED.
MS. LEWI, UM, SO, UM, THIS PROPOSED CHAIN PROPOSED CHANGE MM-HMM.
IT WILL NOT BE A BY RIGHT DESIGNATION, IT WILL BE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.
THAT ONE HAS LOCAL REVIEW OVER WHERE AND HOW IT'S DONE AS FAR AS LOCATION.
AND THEN YOU STILL HAVE STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATORY COMPLIANCE THAT IS VERY STRINGENT.
SO EACH ONE OF 'EM, IF THERE WERE TO BE MORE MM-HMM.
UM, JUST FOR THE RECORD, WOULD YOU GO OVER THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SETBACKS AND, UH, BUFFERS? YES, MA'AM.
SO A SETBACK IS REALLY LOOKING AT THE REQUIREMENT OF HOW FAR SOMETHING IS FROM THE END OF A PROPERTY LINE.
A BUFFER IS IN ADDITION TO THAT TAKING UP PART OF THAT SETBACK SPACE.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT, FOR, IF YOU'RE SAYING A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK, 70 FEET BACK, YOU'LL START WITH A BUFFER OF SOME KIND FOR 30 FEET TO CONTINUE, UM, ON, IN.
SO THAT CAN BE YOUR, YOUR NATURAL BARRIER, YOUR TREE LINE BUSHES, SHS, AND OTHER THINGS TO ASSIST WITH THAT.
SO THAT IS FROM PROPERTY LINES AND THE ROAD.
I'M GONNA GIVE THE NEWBIE QUESTION.
UM, IF I'M LOOKING AT THESE TWO, THREE ISSUES, THREE AND FOUR TOGETHER, I WOULD VIEW ISSUE THREE AS A MACRO ISSUE AS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE AS RURAL COUNTY WANT TO CONSIDER, WANT TO DO TO SUPPORT OUR FARM AND AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY.
WHEREAS FOUR IS, IS MUCH MORE DETAILED AND ONE PARTICULAR LOCATION.
I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE AND MAKE SURE WE DELINEATED THESE TWO SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CORRECT.
AND SO, SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN BE SUPPORTIVE OF AN ISSUE AND STILL HAVE ISSUES, CHALLENGES TO ANOTHER WITHOUT MAKING THIS A BIG MASH UP.
THAT'S A TOTAL MESS, IF THAT'S FAIR.
IS THAT A, IS THAT A ASSESSMENT? SO I THINK THE ONE IS, THIS IS A COUNTYWIDE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT.
HOWEVER, THERE IS A SPECIFIC APPLICATION THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AS WELL THAT ALSO TOUCHES ON MEAT PROCESSING.
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UM, THAT DOES GO INTO THE SPECIFIC APPLICATION IS ACTUALLY FOR AN A ONE DISTRICT, AND IT'S ACTUALLY ON AN AREA THAT IS LARGER THAN 25 ACRES, BUT IT WILL BE 25 ACRES.SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE ZONING AMENDMENT, LOOKING AT A ONE WHICH IS YOUR AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, AND HAVING THAT LARGER LAND SIZE REQUIREMENT OF THE 25 ACRES, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE IS THE LIKELIHOOD OF, UM, PROPERTIES BEING ADJACENT IN A CLOSER FASHION.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR M TWO, WHICH IS LIGHT INDUSTRY, HAVING THE FIVE ACRES OR MORE MINIMUM THRESHOLD WORKS TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND AGAIN, ANY APPLICATION IF THE ZONING AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, THE NEXT CASE, ANY CASE AFTER THAT HAS TO COME FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO BE APPROVED, ONE WITH A RECOMMENDATION OR DENIAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN BEFORE YOU WILL.
AND IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS HAVE TIMELINES FOR THE LENGTH IN WHICH THEY ARE GOOD FOR, AND THOSE TIMELINES CAN BE SET BY THE BOARD OR SHORTENED IF NEEDED, BASED ON THE BOARD'S PURVIEW AND NEED AT THE TIME.
DOES THAT HELP? THANK YOU FOR, AND AGAIN, I'M NEW TOO, SO AGAIN, WE CAN JUST THANK YOU FOR, WE CAN DO THIS ALL NIGHT LEADING QUESTION, BUT YOU EDUCATED US.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE ALL EDUCATED.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? WE ARE, THERE IS NO APPLICANT FOR THIS.
THIS IS A COUNTY INITIATED ZONING.
WE ARE GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.
UH, ANYBODY WISHING TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE FORWARD.
THANK YOU BOARD FOR HAVING ME.
MY NAME IS BARRON CALLEN BERGER, AND I LIVE AT 48 60 OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, MINERAL VIRGINIA, 2,317.
UM, TO THESE ISSUES, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A SHORTAGE OF SLAUGHTER HOUSES FOR FARMERS AND SO FORTH BECAUSE I KNOW PEOPLE THAT SAY THERE'S BACKUPS FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS FOR TO HAVE BEEF SLAUGHTERED.
UM, IN MY OPINION, WHAT IT WOULD WORK VERY WELL SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH PROPERTIES, UH, WITH, WITH, UH, ROADS, UM, THAT AREN'T CAPABLE OF HANDLING TRAFFIC AND THE NUISANCE OF, OF, OF SMELLY ANIMALS AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THERE'S, THERE'S U S D A APPROVED, UH, PORTABLE SLAUGHTER HOUSES THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE BROUGHT TO A FARM AND THE FARMER CAN HAVE THAT PROCESSED AT HIS FARM.
AND THEN THE ANIMALS DON'T HAVE TO BE TRANSPORTED.
IT'S BETTER FOR THE ANIMALS AS FAR AS CRUELTY GOES.
IT'S BETTER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND IT'S, IT'S BETTER, IT'S A BETTER ANSWER ALL THE WAY AROUND TO HAVE A PORTABLE SLAUGHTER HOUSE TAKEN DIRECTLY TO THESE FARMERS THAT, THAT DO NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A SLAUGHTER HOUSE.
MY NAME IS MARK KELLENBERGER, 48 60 OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD IN MINERAL VIRGINIA 2,317.
I'D LIKE TO START BY SAYING THAT I WAS DISAPPOINTED IN THE WAY THIS WAS PRESENTED.
THERE WAS NO PUBLIC SIGNAGE MADE POSSIBLE, NO SIGNS AT ALL, PUT OUT WHERE THEY'VE BEEN SURVEYING ALL SUMMER LONG.
I SPOKE WITH SUSAN LANCE LIGHT YESTERDAY, EXPRESSED MY CONCERN ABOUT IT.
WE TALKED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING YESTERDAY AND OVERNIGHT.
THREE SIGNS APPEARED THAT WERE NOT THERE.
SO THIS HAS NOT BEEN MADE PUBLIC TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE ROAD.
AND WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR 30 YEARS.
THE ROAD ITSELF HAS NOT CAPABLE OF HANDLING THE TRAFFIC.
WE ALREADY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE 18 WHEELERS CUTTING THROUGH ON 5 22.
IT'S A 55 MILE AN HOUR ZONE ROAD.
THE VDOT CURVE IS VERY DANGEROUS.
THE HAYDENVILLE RAMP IS A BLIND SPOT.
SO WHEN YOU GET OFF THE HAYDENVILLE RAMP AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED THERE BEFORE, IT'S, IT'S AN UNSAFE AREA.
THERE'S NO SHOULDERS ON THE ROAD.
AND WE HAVE SCHOOL BUSES AND WE HAVE MAIL DELIVERY.
NOW, IF ANIMALS ARE BEING TRANSPORTED, THEN WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS 18 WHEELER GONNA COME THROUGH THERE FROM BOTH SIDES AND THAT'S A PROBLEM.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS WHERE THAT LOCATION IS, WE'RE PART OF THE CHESAPEAKE BAY WATERSHED, THE SOUTH END RIVER'S CLOSE BY LOOKING WHOLE CREEK AND UM, DEEP CREEK.
SO THE CONTAMINATION FACTOR IS A BIG CONCERN.
UH, THE SMELL, THE FLIES ARE A BIG CONCERN.
UM, THE DRIVE-IN WAS A PROBLEM.
NOW THEY HAVE TAKEN CARE OF IT BECAUSE TRAFFIC USED TO BE BACKED ALL THE WAY DOWN THE INTERSTATE.
AND IT'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF
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A PROBLEM WHERE THEY PARK ON THE GRASS CUZ THERE'S NO SHOULDERS OR ANYTHING.SO THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IS GONNA CREATE AN UNSAFE ENVIRONMENT.
NUMBER TWO IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
WE ALL LIVE ON WELLS AND, AND SEPTIC SYSTEMS. SO WHEN OUR WELLS GO DRY BECAUSE OF A COMMERCIAL OUTFIT, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME AQUIFER, THE NAC PRESENTS THE HOMEOWNERS A PROBLEM ALSO WITH THE PROPERTY VALUES, IF THE PROPERTY VALUES GO DOWN, THEN I THINK IT'S GONNA OPEN A LIABILITY, UM, AGAINST THE COUNTY IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE, UM, YOU CAN'T PUT CORPORATE GREED AHEAD OF, UH, RURAL, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE LIVE.
AND, AND WHEN WE MOVED OUT HERE, WHEN WE MOVED OUT HERE, THE COUNTY SAID THEY WANTED TO KEEP IT RURAL.
THEY'VE BUILT LOTS AND LOTS OF HOUSES, NOT LIKE IT USED TO BE.
AND IT'S JUST NO PLACE FOR A MEAT PROCESSING PLANT ON OUR ROAD.
YES, WE DO NEED IT IN THE COUNTY, BUT NOT THERE.
IT NEEDS TO BE SOMEWHERE THAT'S ADEQUATE FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, COWS.
AND THEN I FIND OUT ALSO THERE'S GONNA BE HOGS, ANIMALS ARE GONNA BE COMING IN FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE DELIVERED THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING OUTTA STATE, SO OUTTA STATE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE COMING.
THANK YOU, MR. I KNOW MY TIME IS UP.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT WE WE'RE SPECIFIC SITE AT THIS TIME WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE ABILITY TO, TO HAVE, UM, MEAT PROCESSING WITHIN GLAND COUNTY IN THE TWO DESIGNATED ZONING AREAS.
SO THE, PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE ABILITY TO HAVE MEAT PROCESSING IN THE COUNTY AND THESE TWO AREAS AND NOT NECESSARILY THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY.
CAN I, CAN I ALSO ASK CLARIFY? OKAY.
THANK, HI, MY NAME'S TANYA KAHAN.
I LIVE AT 15 15,305 ROCKFORD ROAD, MONT PIER, VIRGINIA.
UM, I'M ALSO THE OWNER OF BELMONT BUTCHER IN C TOWN IN RICHMOND.
SO HAVING WORKED IN THE, UM, MEAT INDUSTRY FOR THE LAST 16 YEARS, AND I'VE TALKED TO ALL THESE FARMERS AND I JUST WANNA SAY LIVING IN A RURAL PART OF A RURAL COUNTY IN WEST HANOVER, I, I'M VERY STRONGLY SUPPORT YOU GUYS MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS ZONING OPPORTUNITY TO ALLOW BASICALLY ECONOMIC IMPACT AND BASICALLY GIVING FARMERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK IN THEIR OWN COUNTY OR IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA, UM, TO HAVE ACCESS TO, TO U S D A MEAT PROCESSING.
DEBBIE GRIFFITH, 42 85 HAYDENVILLE FARMS ROAD.
I GUESS LOOKING AT YOUR PROPOSAL BACK HERE, UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT CONCERN ME, OR ACTUALLY, UM, IT WAS ANOTHER SLIDE, BUT WHEN IT TALKED ABOUT 50 ANIMALS COULD BE HELD OVERNIGHT, UM, HOW MANY NIGHTS CAN THOSE AN ANIMALS BE HELD? NUMBER ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF WHATEVER BUILDING THAT YOU'RE DOING, I KNOW THE NEXT, UM, PROPOSAL COMING UP HAD SAID MAXIMUM OF, OF 75 ANIMALS PER WEEK.
SO IF YOU'RE HAVING 50 ANIMALS BEING HELD OVERNIGHT, HOW LONG ARE THEY GONNA BE HELD IN THOSE PENS BEFORE THEY'RE, UM, SLAUGHTERED, HARVESTED, WHATEVER.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, MY CONCERN ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND ELECTRONICALLY SURVEIL THE ANIMALS, BUT WHO'S WATCHING THE TAPE? UM, THAT, THAT SEEMS TO ME VERY SILLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, EITHER YOU HAVE SOMEBODY OUT THERE TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES OR WHY EVEN BOTHER HAVING A RECORDING BECAUSE NOBODY'S GONNA BE WATCHING IT.
MY NAME IS STEVE HOPKINS, 55 17 ROUNDABOUT ROAD.
I WORKED FOR VIRGINIA CORPORATE EXTENSION, VIRGINIA TECH FOR 29 YEARS.
I'M GONNA SPEAK ON THE NEED FOR A, A FACILITY LIKE THIS.
UM, PART OF WHEN I WAS WORKING AS EXTENSION AGENT, WE HAD A U S D A GRANT.
WE SPENT ABOUT TWO YEARS STUDYING THE NEED FOR A PROCESSING PLANT.
I WORKED WITH A SMALL GROUP OF FARMERS.
UM, WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT A PROCESSING PLANT THAT WOULD BE OF A SIMILAR SIZE TO THIS BUFFALO HILL THAT'S IN MADISON COUNTY.
UM, A LOT OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT SMELL, ABOUT SIZE, ABOUT TRAFFIC, THAT FACILITY IS RIGHT BEHIND THE SHEETS.
AND THE PEAK WHEN IT WAS THERE, IT WAS UNFORTUNATE FIRE AND IT'S BURNED DOWN THERE AND IT'S NOT AVAILABLE, BUT PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.
MATTER OF FACT, THERE'S A, THERE IS A PROCESSING FACILITY OF SIMILAR SIZE ON THE, ON THE
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VIRGINIA TECH CAMPUS ON WASHINGTON STREET RIGHT DOWN FROM THE COLISEUM.IT, IT DOES NOT CREATE A LOT OF SMELL.
UM, IT DOES NOT CREATE A NUISANCE AROUND, BUT THERE'S A TREMENDOUS NEED WITH THE FARMERS.
WHAT I DO SINCE I RETIRED, I WORK WITH FARMERS IN MARKETING CATTLE.
UH, WE, WE HAVE THE TWO YEAR WEIGHT.
THE, THE GRANT BY OF FACT IS A STUDY DETERMINED THE FEASIBILITY AND IT FOUND BACK IN THE LATE NINETIES, IT WAS VERY FEASIBLE.
THE DEMAND FOR THAT HAS ONLY INCREASED.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE WANTS TO PUT ONE IN, IT'S EVERYONE.
I DON'T WANT IT NEXT TO ME, BUT IT REALLY DOES NOT.
CAUSE IF IT'S NEXT TO YOU, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW IT.
IT DOES NOT HAVE THE SMELL, IT DOES NOT HAVE TRACTOR TRAILERS COMING TO IT.
A FACILITY LIKE THIS GONNA BE GOOSENECK TRAILERS.
IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT MUCH TRAFFIC FOR THIS SIZE FACILITY THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.
WE ADDRESSED THEM IN THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WE GOT FROM U S D A.
IT WAS UNFORTUNATE THE FACILITY THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT ACTUALLY BUYING OUTTA FIRE AND BURNED DOWN.
BUT THE NEED IS STILL OUT THERE FOR THE FARMERS.
I LIVE AT 48 17 IN OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD AND I WAS HERE, UM, LAST MONTH AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND I SPOKE A LITTLE BIT ON THE, UM, ZONING, UM, CHANGE AND LOOKING AT IT NOW, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE UP THERE AS A PROPOSED, UM, YOU KNOW, AGRICULTURAL VERSUS, UH, INDUSTRIAL AS TWO OPTIONS.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT GOING TO AN, UH, INDUSTRIAL OR, UH, COMMERCIAL, UM, AREA DESIGNATED FOR BUSINESSES RATHER THAN IN A, UM, UH, AGRICULTURAL AREA.
UM, OUR, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, IS NOT AGRICULTURAL ANYMORE FOR THE MOST PART.
AND I SPOKE, UM, A LITTLE BIT TO, UM, DEQ, DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
I USED TO DO, UM, SEPTIC WORK, I AND UM, COMMERCIAL WORK.
SO I HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE IN THIS.
UM, EVEN ON A SMALL SCALE, THESE BUSINESSES TEND TO USE A LOT OF WATER AND HAVE HIGH SEWER NEEDS FOR THE WASHING AND THE CLEANUP AND THE CHEMICALS.
AND DEQ WAS KIND OF INTERESTED IN KNOWING IF GIN WAS GONNA ISSUE A SEPTIC FOR THESE KIND OF, UM, BUSINESSES WHERE IT WOULD BE MORE BENEFICIAL IF IT WAS ON SOME SORT OF, UM, UM, SEWER SYSTEM.
THEY EVEN WONDERED IF, UM, IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PRIVATE, UM, SEWER PLANT FOR ITS OPERATION TO, UM, ESPECIALLY IF IT GREW AT ALL.
UM, SO IN REGARDS TO THE PROPOSAL, IT IS A CONCERN, YOU KNOW, IF IT CAN GO ON A AGRICULTURAL, UM, WELL AND SEPTIC, UM, REMOTE KIND OF, UM, SITE.
UH, I LIVE AT 58 36 ELLISVILLE DRIVE IN LOUISA, VIRGINIA.
I CURRENTLY SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA CATTLE'S ASSOCIATION.
UH, IT'S AN ASSOCIATION THAT HAS MEMBERS FROM GOLAND, LUANA, LOUISA, ORANGE, MADISON, EVEN AS FAR SOUTH AS PENNSYLVANIA.
UH, WE PROBABLY REPRESENT A TOTAL OF 40,000 HEAD OF CATTLE OR BETTER.
THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION.
UH, IT GIVE US SO MANY MORE OPPORTUNITIES IN WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF MEMBERS THAT DO GRASSED BEEF, UH, SELL DIRECTLY TO CONSUMERS.
I SAY CONSUMERS TO TO PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS.
WE HAVE SOME THAT HAVE ACTUALLY, UH, OPENED UP THEIR OWN LATON, UH, STORES AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
BUT THEY DO LACK SLAUGHTER FACILITIES CURRENTLY AS IT HAS ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP MOST TO ALL OF US.
WELL, IT'S FOR OWN PRIVATE NEED OR WHETHER WE'RE SELLING FEED FREEZER BEEF.
WE ARE HAVING TO TRUCK THESE ANIMALS 70 TO 125 MILES.
WE CURRENTLY, AS, AS ALREADY HAS ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP.
IF YOU CAN GET A SLAUGHTER DATE WITHIN SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS, YOU ARE EXCEEDINGLY LUCKY MOST TIME.
AND YOU BETTER HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS SLAUGHTER PLANT TO DO THAT.
AND THAT'S MORE LIKELY GONNA BE A CANCELLATION.
UH, PERSONALLY I HAVEN'T QUITE GOT INTO THE TWO YEAR WAIT, BUT I HAVE BEEN ON A ONE YEAR WAIT.
UM, BUT THIS WOULD GREATLY HELP THE CATTLE
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INDUSTRY HERE IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA, NOT ONLY FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THESE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SELLING TO INDIVIDUAL CONSUMERS AND WHAT HAVE YOU.IT ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SALVAGE SOME ANIMALS THAT ARE PERFECTLY FINE FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION.
BUT BECAUSE OF AMBULATORY CONDITIONS OF BROKEN LEG OR SOMETHING, WE WOULD HAVE A FACILITY.
MAYBE WE COULD DO IT RATHER THAN HAVING TO YEAST IZE THEM.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE YOU WILL PASS IT.
HI, MY NAME IS GARRETT HOPKINS.
I LIVE AT 55 17 ROUNDABOUT ROAD, LOUISA, VIRGINIA.
I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF, AS A YOUNGER GENERATION GOING INTO AGRICULTURE, THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE LIMITED.
UM, AND HAVING A PROCESSING FACILITY NEAR THE WHERE I LIVE WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT ME AS WELL AS MANY OTHER FARMERS IN THE AREA TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SELL LOCAL BEEF, WHICH IS A BIG CRAZE WITH RESTAURANTS AND PEOPLE AROUND THE AREA THAT THEY WANNA KNOW WHERE THEIR FOOD COMES FROM.
ALSO, I'M A RECENT GRADUATE FROM VIRGINIA TECH.
I HAD CLASSES ABOVE THE PROCESS AND FACILITY AT VIRGINIA TECH WITHOUT HAVING ANY IDEA THAT IT WAS A PROCESSING FACILITY UNDERNEATH THAT.
AND THAT WAS A YEAR AFTER I GOT TO VIRGINIA TECH THAT I EVEN KNEW THAT IT WAS THERE AND TOURED IT.
AND IT'S A VERY CLEAN FACILITY UNDERNEATH AS WELL AS 30,000 STUDENTS TO GO TO VIRGINIA TECH.
I'M WILLING TO BET 95% OR PROBABLY MORE EVEN THOUGH IT'S THERE.
AND THEY ALSO, THEY PROVIDE MOST OF THE MEAT FOR THE VIRGINIA TECH DINING HALL.
SO IT'S NOT SMALL, BUT I THINK THAT'S A VALID POINT TO BRING UP OF SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT'S THERE.
AND THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF CAMPUS OFF WASHINGTON STREET, JUST NEXT TO CASTLE WHERE EVERYBODY GOES TO THE BASKETBALL GAMES AND LANES.
NOT TOO FAR AWAY, BUT THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE ON THIS CASE? HOW LONG YOU I'M JIM CHRISTIAN.
UH, LIVE IN 1950 CARTERVILLE ROAD, MINERAL, VIRGINIA.
I'M JUST OUTSIDE OF GOLAND COUNTY.
I'M ON ROUTE 6 29 AND BELIEVE ME, OUR ROAD CAN'T HANDLE THE TRAFFIC.
IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING AT THE HAYDENVILLE, NEAR MIDPOINT, I'M ALSO HERE REPRESENTING RALPH ZENN, WHO IS A, A PRESIDENT OF GOLAND 46 10 BROAD STREET ROAD.
HE COULDN'T BE HERE BECAUSE OF ILLNESS, BUT HE'S STRONGLY AGAINST IT FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS.
HE SAYS, WITHOUT A SEWER SYSTEM HANDLING A PLANT THERE, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE ASKING FOR PROBLEMS CUZ IT'S GONNA BE A BIG ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
AND NO ONE NEEDS THAT IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A WATER SHORTAGE AS WELL IN THE AREA.
AND NOT TO MENTION YOUR RESIDENTIAL AREA THERE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA OPEN A PLANT LIKE THAT AND HAVE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT APPEALING TO ANYONE.
SO YOUR RESIDENTIAL VALUES ARE BOUND TO BE, YOU KNOW, DETRIMENTAL.
ED SL MAN SIDE VIRGINIA 2 31 0 3.
I'VE LISTENED TO OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK.
UM, I THINK THIS IS OBVIOUS FOR THE BOARD.
I HOPE YOU GOT ENOUGH SENSE TO KNOW IT.
FOUR, YOU CAN SKIP FOUR THREE RIGHT ALONG.
FOUR THREE MAKES FOUR IMPOSSIBLE.
HOW YOU GONNA APPLY FOR SOMETHING WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ZONING FOR IT? MRNE PLEASE ADDRESS THE BOARD.
YOU WANT ME TO TURN THIS WAY? I GUESS WHAT CAN SAY ANYWAY, UM, ONE FARMER ALREADY STATED THAT HE HAS, WELL MORE THAN, UM, I'M JUST HAVING MORE THAN 75 COWS.
SO THIS IS EITHER A LARGE JOKE THAT'S COMMONPLACE IN POLITICS, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GONNA GROW.
HOW YOU GONNA HAVE ONLY SERVE 75 COWS AND THIS MAN'S GOT LIKE 200 OR SOMETHING, IT'S NOT GONNA WORK.
UM, I DO UNDERSTAND AND DEFINITELY WANT SOMETHING CLOSER TO HAVE TO GO OUTTA STATE, BUT RICHMOND WOULD BE BETTER.
WHO HAS A DRAIN, UH, PUBLIC DRAINAGE SYSTEM TO HANDLE THIS STUFF.
IF WE GET INTO THIS, WE ARE GONNA HAVE OUR WELL WATER IMPACTED AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE ANYBODY, AS THEY SAID BY THE MAGIC LITTLE CAMERA WATCHING THE COWS.
THE SAME THING'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE PIPES AND THE WATER RUNOFF LIKE WE'VE ALREADY SEEN WITH DOMINION POWER.
THEY CLAIM THEY'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING NOW ALL THE WATER, MUD AND STUFF IS RUNNING OFF, THEY CUT THE TREES DOWN AND THESE PROBLEMS ARE COMING OUR WAY.
SO YOU CAN MAKE BIG MONEY, Y'ALL GONNA MAKE MONEY, THEY GONNA MAKE MONEY.
BUT THE AVERAGE CITIZEN OUT HERE, THERE'S UM, WORKING MCDONALD'S AND WORKING THESE AVERAGE JOBS
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MAKING LESS THAN 50, $80,000 HERE, WHICH I AIN'T MAKING.AND LIVING ON FIXED INCOME LIKE ME, WE ARE GONNA PAY THE PRICE.
AND THIS IS BEING STATED AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN IN THE NEWS ON VARIETY OF ISSUES AS WE SEE WITH ELON MUSK, WHAT HE'S DOING WITH HIS 42 BILLION THAT HE JUST BOUGHT THIS.
YEAH, YOU WANT THAT MONEY, BUT WE DON'T NEED BAD PEOPLE COMING IN, FIRING US, MESSING OUR LAYING UP AND THEN WE GOTTA LIVE WITH IT.
WHEN THEN Y'ALL GO UP TO THE BAHAMAS AND LIVE.
THIS IS THE GAME THAT'S GETTING PLAYED.
AND LET'S SEE, LAST TWO THINGS.
DRAINAGE WATER PLANT IS RICHMOND OR MOBILE UNITS WAS A GOOD IDEA, I THOUGHT.
THEY SAY NOW, BUT IN THE FUTURE IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN 75.
AND OF COURSE IT'S GONNA BE SMELL, BUT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE STUPID AND NOT KNOW THAT AS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE COVID SITUATION, THEY TOLD US PFIZER MODERN, THAT THE CHARGE SHOULD BE 95% EFFECTIVE.
NOW WE'RE UP TILL OUR FOURTH SHOT TILL YOU GOTTA GET WHAT YOU DO.
YOU TELL YOUR LIES, GET YOUR FOOT IN THE DOOR, THAT'S HOW BUSINESS OPERATE.
AND THEN THEY COME OUT, TAKE THE HOOD OFF AND SHOW YOU WHAT'S REALLY GONNA HAPPEN.
THIS WE ARE AWARE AND WE'RE NOT STUPID ON THIS.
UH, MY NAME NAME'S FRANKLIN PAYNE.
UM, I'M 45 31 HICKORY HILL ROAD AND I FARM ABOUT 1500 ACRES UP THERE.
I'VE BEEN FARMING FOR 60 YEARS, WELL, 50 SOME YEARS.
ANYBODY WANTS TO DEAL WITH TRAFFIC, GET A COMBINE, FEW TRACTORS AND RIDE AROUND, TRY TO MOVE 'EM FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER.
I DON'T THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT'LL MEAT PROCESSING PLACE THAT'S CAUSING THE PROBLEM.
I THINK PEOPLE OUGHTA WORK TOGETHER AND TRY TO DEAL WITH THIS.
THE PLACES A QUARTER OF A MILE OFF OF THE INTERSTATE, 90% OF THE COWS ARE GONNA BE COMING IN THERE OFF OF THE INTERSTATE FROM WHEREVER THEY GO.
I MEAN, PEOPLE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.
I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT PEOPLE MOVING IN AND I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR YEARS.
ANYONE ELSE? JIM DIRES? UH, 53, NO, 43 55 WEST WIND DRIVE.
I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE, UH, TRIED TO USE THE, UH, VIRGINIA TECH SLAUGHTERHOUSE AS AN EXAMPLE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THEY HAVE WATER AND SEWER AT THAT PLANT, WHICH WILL MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN HOW THE PLANT OPERATES.
ANYONE ELSE? MR. LYLE? JONATHAN LYLE.
I'M SURPRISED YOU ASKED ME TO TURN IT BACK ON.
UM, JONATHAN 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
UM, AND I'M JUST GONNA SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE ZONING, UH, ORDINANCE THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
GOLAND HISTORICALLY HAS BEEN AN AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY AND, UH, TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND USUALLY OFTENTIMES FOR THE BETTER.
BUT THERE IS A NEED FOR US TO HAVE RESOURCES THAT WILL ALLOW FARMERS TO KEEP FARMING AND TO KEEP GUC AND RURAL.
UH, SO TO THAT POINT, I HOPE YOU WILL PASS THE, UH, AMENDED ORDINANCE BECAUSE AS HAS BEEN NOTED, THIS DOES NOT SAY EVERY ACRE IN THE COUNTY NOW CAN, UM, HOUSE OR, OR FACILITATE A A, UM, MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY.
IT ALLOWS THE BOARD, UH, TO CONSIDER CONDITIONAL USED APPLICATIONS.
BUT IF WE WANT TO KEEP PEOPLE FARMING AND IF WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MEAT PRICES COME DOWN, IF WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE ACCESS TO FARM TO FORK OPPORTUNITIES, WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY, UH, THE RESOURCES TO DO IT.
UH, AT THE FARM BUREAU CONFERENCE, UH, LAST WEEK, GOVERNOR YOUNGIN SPOKE ABOUT SOME OF THE MAIN CONCERNS OF HIS ADMINISTRATION IS FACILITATING AGRICULTURAL PROCESSING AND NOT JUST WITH MEAT PRODUCTS, BUT UH, VEGETABLES AND GREEN, GREEN ITEMS AS WELL.
SO IF YOU WILL ALLOW THE FARMING COMMUNITY TO COME AND ASK FOR PROCESSING FACILITIES THAT FACILITATE THEIR ABILITY TO STAY IN BUSINESS.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
AND, UM, I WILL, I BELIEVE MR. PETERSON, I RE RETURN THE REST OF MY TIME AND I'LL BE BACK UP WHEN WE SPEAK TO
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THE ACTUAL C U P APPLICATION, WHICH, UH, SPOILER ALERT, I'LL BE IN FAVOR OF THAT ALSO.I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS OVER AN HOUR AND A HALF, SO I'M GONNA CALL A 10 MINUTE RECESS AT, UH, LET'S FINISH THIS.
YOU WANNA JUST VOTE FIRST? YES.
WELL, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? OKAY.
UH, STAFF, DID YOU WANNA COME UP AND, UH, TALK TO ANY OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU HEARD? I'M SORRY.
AGAIN, CRYSTAL AND IDAS, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE SEVERAL THINGS.
AGAIN, WE'RE PROPOSING IN THIS ZONING AMENDMENT THAT THERE ARE TWO AREAS THEN WITHIN THE COUNTY, A ONE AND M TWO, A ONE BEING 25 ACRES OR MORE A TWO, SORRY, A ONE, M TWO BEING FIVE ACRES OR MORE, WHERE A LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY UP TO 10,000 SQUARE FEET COULD EXIST BASED ON THERE BEING A CASE BY CASE APPROVAL PER FACILITY.
SO THIS LANGUAGE, IF ADOPTED, ALL IT WOULD DO IS PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE, UM, INDIVIDUAL INSTANCES TO BE HEARD AND CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BY THE BOARD, AND FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS TO BE HELD AS.
UM, IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC HEAR, UH, FOR QUESTIONS, ANY TIME THERE IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THERE IS ALSO A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL.
SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC HEARING AT PLANNING COMMISSION.
THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC HEARING AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS COUNTYWIDE FOR A ONE AND M TWO, A 1 25 ACRES OR MORE M TWO FIVE ACRES OR MORE.
AND AGAIN, A FACILITY NOT TO EXCEED 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND SO THAT FACILITY EACH TIME, IF YOU ALL DO APPROVE THE ZONING AMENDMENT, UM, YOU ALL WOULD BE REVIEWING EVERYTHING FACILITY SPECIFIC.
SO IF SOMETHING'S 5,000 SQUARE FEET, A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET, A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, UP TO 10,000 SQUARE FEET, ANYTHING THAT IS, BY LEGAL DEFINITION, A MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY LIMITED.
AND IF YOU ALL ADOPT THIS, THIS ISN'T THE ONLY MECHANISM YOU ALL HAVE IN COUNTY CODE THAT ALLOWS MEAT PROCESSING ON A COMMERCIAL BASIS OF ANY KIND.
MR. LOPEZ, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JUST YOU SPECIFICALLY.
UM, IT LOOKED POSITIVE WHEN IT FIRST CAME TO US.
UM, I'VE STUDIED, I I'VE WATCHED YOUR PRODUCT AND NARROWING THIS DOWN AND THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO FAR, THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE SUPPORT THIS STEP.
WE'VE HEARD FROM A LOT OF FOLKS THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE LOCATION.
THE, THE TWO CONCERNS THAT I HEARD THAT I WOULD LIKE US TO ADDRESS NOW OR TO HAVE Y'ALL ADDRESS IS, UM, THE OVERNIGHT, THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS OVERNIGHT.
I'M JUST TRYING, HOW'D YOU ARRIVE AT 50? BECAUSE THE PERSON POINTED OUT IF THEY'RE DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT VOLUMES AND, AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VOLUME CAPACITY OF THIS IS.
WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THESE FOLKS INTEND AND WHAT THEY PLAN.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CAPACITY OF THIS PARTICULAR FACILITY IS, BUT THE, THERE'S A 50 OVERNIGHT.
I'D LIKE TO GET, GET A SENSE OF HOW YOU ALL ARRIVED AT THAT IS, WHY IS THAT A GOOD NUMBER? WHY IS THAT AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER? AND THEN THE SEPTIC SIDE OF THINGS.
UM, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO, UH, THE SEPTIC ISSUE, UH, THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, I GUESS THERE'S THE USAGE SIDE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE WASTE WATER SIDE.
SO IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THOSE TWO QUESTIONS.
I'LL TACKLE YOUR SECOND QUESTION FIRST, WHICH WAS THE SEPTIC, UM, WATER WASTEWATER PIECE, THE UTILITIES PORTION FOR WATER AND OR WASTEWATER WILL BE SITE SPECIFIC.
SO THERE IS NOTHING HERE THAT REQUIRES THAT, BECAUSE WE CAN'T FORESEE EXACTLY THE XY COORDINATES OF WHERE THE POTENTIAL NEXT APPLICATION MAY BE FOR A LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY.
AGAIN, THIS IS PROVIDING SOME HIGH LEVEL GUIDELINES.
AND THEN WHEN, IF THIS IS ADOPTED, THERE WOULD BE PLAN SPECIFIC CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REVIEW THAT OCCURS AND SPECIFIC SITE REQUIREMENTS THAT COME INTO PLACE.
SO IF A PROPOSED SITE IS WELL IN SEPTIC CENTERED, OR IF IT'S ON MUNICIPAL SERVICES, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED AND THERE WOULD BE COMMENTS SPECIFIC TO THAT.
AND ALSO ENVIRONMENTAL AND HEALTH REGULATIONS SPECIFIC TO THAT AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL.
DOES THAT HELP ON THAT ANSWER? IT DOES.
SO I MEAN, I, I JUST WAS LOOKING, D E Q IS GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE FACILITY AT
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ALL.I MEAN, DO THEY HAVE ANY OVERSIGHT? SO AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE GETTING INTO SPECIFICS.
SO YOU, SO DQ DOES REGULATE PORTIONS OF SEPTIC FOR DISCHARGE.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.
AND YOU WERE GONNA, I THINK MR. CASH, ARE YOU GONNA FEEL THE FIRST, FIRST PART OF MY QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS
RECOGNIZE WE'RE GOING IN AGRICULTURE AREAS WHERE LIVESTOCK RAISING AND THE LIKE IS PERMITTED.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S TRADITIONAL.
I THINK SOMEONE IN THE ORDINANCE WOULD SAY IT'S A NATURAL BACKGROUND OR TO, UM, AGRICULTURAL AREA.
UM, THE, THE 50 WAS REALLY ARRIVED AT, ORIGINALLY AT ONE POINT WE WERE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT CAPACITY PER WEEK OF THE FACILITY.
UM, IT'S, IT'S HARD TO REALLY DETERMINE EXACTLY HOW MUCH.
UM, WE KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT IS ANTICIPATED WITH THE CASE TONIGHT, BUT WE CAN'T BASE AN ORDINANCE BASED UPON ONE SPECIFIC INCIDENT, RIGHT? UM, SO WE LOOKED AT AS, UM, THE SIZE OF THESE UNITS, WHAT WE SAW OUT THERE IN, UM, IN FACILITIES AROUND THE, THE, THE STATE AS TO WHAT THEY WERE, THE SIZE OF THEIR PENS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, 50 SEEMED LIKE A REASONABLE NUMBER AS FAR AS KEEPING, UM, IT TO SCALE.
UM, ANTICIPATING THAT TYPICALLY THESE ANIMALS WOULD ARRIVE, UM, MAYBE NOT DAILY, BUT OVER TIME FOR THE PROCESS TO DO.
UM, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE ANIMALS TO STAY THERE CONSISTENTLY FOR A NUMBER OF DAYS FOR THEIR HEALTH, FOR THE, UM, THE STRESS IT PLACES ON THEM.
UM, SO FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS WE LOST THE FIFTIES.
SEEMED LIKE IT WAS GOOD FOR SCALE FOR THE 25 ACRES THAT WE WERE, UM, GOING TO.
SO YOU DID, YOU DID LOOK AT OTHER, YEAH.
AND, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S THE, THE NUMBER THAT'S CORRECT FOR THIS EACH CIRCUMSTANCE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT FOR EACH.
ONE THING THAT WAS, I DIDN'T MENTION A MOMENT AGO, BUT I THOUGHT WAS, UH, THE LADY THAT ASKED, SHE ASKED A COUPLE OF GOOD QUESTIONS.
THE, THE ELECTRONIC MONITORING AND OVERSIGHT.
UM, I THOUGHT, UH, IS ANYBODY ON THE OTHER END, UH, AND WELL NOTICE WE SAY OVERNIGHT SUPERVISION IS REQUIRED.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WANT YOU TO JUST VIDEOTAPE YOUR AREA WHEN YOU'RE SUPERVISING THE ANIMALS AND THERE'S AN INCIDENT.
SO LET'S SAY WE FIND OUT TO, YOU KNOW, MY INTERPRETATION OF THIS WOULD BE IF THERE'S AN INCIDENT, CATTLE ESCAPE, THEY'RE RUNNING THE STREET, WE NEVER HEAR ANY RESPONSE OR NO ACTIVITY BACK FROM THE OWNER, OKAY? THEY'RE NOT SUPERVISING.
THAT'S A VIOLATION OF THE, OF THE CODE, OF THE, OR OF THE ORDINANCE.
SO BY SAYING OVERNIGHT SUPERVISION, THE INTENT IS SOMEBODY'S MAKING SURE THAT IT'S SAFE, THE ANIMALS ARE SAFE.
UM, THERE'S NOT, THEY'RE NOT RUNNING LOOSE.
THEY HAVEN'T BROKE OUT, THE FACILITY'S NOT ON FIRE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE'RE PLACING ON THIS, THIS TYPE OF FACILITY.
A LITTLE BIT UNIQUE THAT WE DON'T REQUIRE THAT OF OTHER BUSINESSES, BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THESE ARE GONNA BE IN RURAL AREAS.
UM, AND THEY ARE BY THEIR NATURE, ANIMALS GET LOOSE.
AND THE AREAS, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY NOT MONITORED.
IT'S A ACTUALLY A BURDEN THAT WE WOULDN'T PLACE ON FARMERS, BUT WE'RE WE ACTUALLY EXPECT OF THIS FACILITY.
ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.
UM, YEAH, MR. CHAIR, QUITE IF I COULD, UM, SO I, WE WE'RE TOUCHING ON SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD AND CORRECT.
WE HEARD CONCERN ON THE TRAFFIC AND WE'VE HEARD CONCERNS ON THE HEALTH.
WE'VE CONCERNED ON THE NUMBER.
ONE OF THE CONCERNS WAS, UH, COULD IT GROW UNBRIDLED? AND YOU'VE ADDRESSED THAT I THINK FAIRLY SPECIFICALLY WITH SAYING, THIS IS 10,000 SQUARE FOOT.
THE IDEA THAT YOU'LL BUILD THE FIRST 10,000 JUST TO GET YOUR FOOT IN THE DOOR, AND THEN YOU'LL BUILD ANOTHER, YOU'LL EXPAND THE FACILITY.
THEY REALLY CAN'T DO THAT, CAN THEY? THIS IS, NO, SIR.
YOUR ZONING AMENDMENT ONLY ALLOWS UP TO, CANNOT EXCEED 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO IN THEORY, IF SOMEONE EVEN PUT IN THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR LET'S SAY, 5,000 SQUARE FEET, AND DURING THE TIME OF THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, IF THIS IS ALLOWED, UM, THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO ADD ON 2000 SQUARE FEET THERE NEEDED TO, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE AN AMENDMENT TO THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO EVEN INCREMENTAL GROWTH OF AN EXISTING FACILITY, IF THE ZONING AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE REVIEWED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS AS WELL.
AND ONCE YOU HIT THE 10,000, YOU'RE DONE AND YOU ARE DONE.
YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT GROWING ANY FURTHER.
ANOTHER, WHAT I HEARD WAS ON THE WATER AND SEPTIC, AND I KNOW YOU DRESSED IT VERY, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UM, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WITH RESIDENTIAL, I BELIEVE IS GONNA BE THE SAME FOR THIS COMMERCIAL, IS THAT LET'S BREAK OUT WATER AND SEWER SEPARATELY ON THE WATER SIDE.
UM, THEY'LL DRILL A WELL IN THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
UM, VDH COMES IN TO SAY, OKAY, IS IT DRAWING A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GALLONS FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME?
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AND THEN IS THE WELL REFRESHING? UM, AND IS IT REPLACING AND REPLENISHING AT A CERTAIN SATISFACTORY RATE BEFORE THEY WOULD APPROVE THAT? WELL, SO THEY'LL DO A, WELL TEST, MAKE SURE THE SUFFICIENT WATER THERE, SUFFICIENT WATER AND THE SUICIDE, THEY'RE GOING TO GET INVOLVED WITH, UH, THE DEQ, THE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY FOLKS TO SAY, OKAY, HOW MUCH WATER IS THIS FACILITY GONNA USE? IF IT'S GONNA USE A LOT, THEY, OKAY, FINE, YOU'RE GONNA USE A LOT OF WATER.WHERE'S IT GONNA GO? SO THEY'LL SAY, OKAY, HOW BIG DOES A DRAIN FIELD NEED TO BE? DO A PERK TEST TO SEE IF THE, THE LAND PERKS.
SO WILL IT, WILL IT BE ABLE TO ABSORB IT? I MEAN, THEY'LL DO ALL THOSE CALCULATIONS BEFORE THEY GET THAT APPROVAL AS WELL.
SO BY THE TIME YOU APPLY FOR A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, YOU'VE ALREADY GOTTEN APPROVALS THAT THE WELL AND SEPTIC ARE SCALED TO THE RIGHT SCALE THAT THEY CAN HANDLE THE FACILITY OR ELSE YOU DON'T GET TO BUILD AND YOU OR OCCUPY IT.
YOU DON'T GET TO START YOUR BUSINESS.
IS THAT, THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.
AND AGAIN, AS YOU KNOW, EACH FACILITY WILL HAVE SITE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS TO BE CONSIDERED, UM, FOR APPROVAL BY YOU ALL.
BUT WE ARE OUTRIGHT SAYING THAT ANY AND ALL APPLICABLE FEDERAL AND STATE REGULATIONS WOULD HAVE TO APPLY.
SO, UM, ANY STIPULATIONS THAT VDH HAS, ANY STIPULATIONS THAT DEQ HAS FOR WASTEWATER MANAGEMENT, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADHERED TO AND ACTUALLY TIE BACK TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS FAR AS THEIR ABILITY TO THEN OPERATE AND DO BUSINESS.
SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE HAVING A BUNCH OF NO-NOS WITH THE STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATORY AGENCIES, THERE'S ALSO THE ABILITY TO THEN PULL A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BASED ON THAT.
SO THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, UM, FOLLOWED WHEN WE DID, UH, THE LEAKING HOLE BREWERY, WHICH USES A FAIR AMOUNT OF WATER TO BREW BEER.
THE WELL WATERS HAD TO BE CHECKED AND THE, UH, BEFORE THE OCCUPANCY OF THE BUSINESS BECAUSE UP AND RUNNING, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, AND, AND AGAIN, THE PERS ARE SITE SPECIFIC BECAUSE DIFFERENT LAND IS GONNA PERK DIFFERENTLY AND WHATNOT.
AND BASELINE, GENERALLY WITH THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH IS ANNUAL SAMPLING AND MONITORING, AND AT TIMES THEY DO RECOMMEND MORE FREQUENT JUST BASED ON SITE SPECIFIC USE.
SO IT'LL BE MONITORED AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE CLARIFICATIONS.
I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT MR. VAERS, UM, 10,000, YOU MIGHT BE, YOU MIGHT HAVE A HUNDRED FRIENDS YOU COULD PHONE, UH, IN THE AUDIENCE, 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
DO WE KNOW A MAXIMUM CATTLE AND OR HOG SLAUGHTERING CAPACITY IN A GIVEN DAY, UM, FOR A SIZE OF THAT NATURE? ONE THAT'S ALSO ANIMAL SIZE SPECIFIC, AND IT'S ALSO FACILITY CAPACITY SPECIFIC IN REGARDS TO, UM, THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS IN THERE FROM A GENERALIZED LEVEL.
SO IN THEORY, I WILL DEFER AND CALL A FRIEND
LET ME, LEMME PUT IT THIS WAY.
IF VIRGINIA TECH HAD AN EXACTLY A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, CAUSE MAYBE WE, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD REFERENCES TO THAT, WHAT COULD THEY PROCESS IN A FACILITY OF THAT NATURE? IS THAT A FAIR QUESTION TO TRY AND GET US MORE SPECIFIC ON THE NUMBERS? UM, I I'M NOT SURE IF ANYBODY COULD ANSWER THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
AND, UM, THEY DO SO IN THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION RELATING TO THE C U P AND THEY DO HAVE THE APPLICANT FOR OUR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL WITH SOME EXAMPLES OF COMPARABLE FACILITIES.
THAT WOULD REQUIRE A HIGHLY SPECIFIC ANSWER AT WHICH TIME I DO NOT ACTUALLY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.
MOTION, MR. MR. WHITESIDE, IT IS MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE GOLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ALLOWING THE LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITIES BY, BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN THE AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, A ONE AND INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO DISTRICTS SECOND.
MS. LASETTE, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, ROLL CALVO PLEASE.
AT THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 10 MINUTE, UH, RECESS UNTIL, NO, YOU GET 10.
I WANTED TO GO BEFORE, SO 10 MINUTE RECESS.
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[4. 5543: 2022 District 1; 2011 District 1 - CU-2022-00014 Application by Hays]
OUR FOURTH CASE THIS EVENINGS.GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS CRYSTAL ANNIS AND I AM HERE TO PRESENT ON BEHALF OF STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION FOR A CONDITIONAL PERMIT ISSUANCE FOR A LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY.
THIS IS PROPOSED FOR RECOMMENDATION AT A AREA THAT IS 25.19 ACRES AS FAR AS OVERALL AREA THAT WOULD BE DESIGNATED FOR THIS USE, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY ON A LOT THAT IS OVER 67.9 ACRES IN SIZE.
AS FAR AS OVERALL PARCEL THAT HAS OWNERSHIP, UM, THE CURRENT ZONING IS A ONE.
UM, SO THAT'S AGRICULTURAL GENERAL USE AND THE LAND USE DESIGNATED IS RURAL ENHANCEMENT.
UM, SO THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS RIGHT OFF OF THE HAYDENVILLE EXIT, ABOUT A QUARTER, LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM THE HAYDENVILLE EXIT.
SO HERE'S ANOTHER AERIAL VIEW OF WHERE THE PROPOSED, UM, APPLICANT'S PROPERTY IS LOCATED OFF OF OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.
UM, ONE THING THAT IS OF SIGNIFICANCE WITH REGARDS TO WHERE THE LOCATION IS IN EXISTING ZONING IS THAT IMMEDIATELY ACROSS FROM THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SITE IS INDUSTRIAL ZONED PARCELS AS WELL AS WITHIN THEIR PARCEL AND ADJACENT PARCELS IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ZONED AS WELL.
SO TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, THERE IS M ONE, M TWO, AND B ONE ALL WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENT VICINITY OF THIS PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
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SITE.AGAIN, UM, AS I MENTIONED, IT'S AN AREA OF OVERALL 67 ACRES WITH A 25 LITTLE OVER 25 ACRES FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AREA FOR A LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY.
SO THERE, AS I'M LEARNING THE WONDERFUL CLICKER HERE, THIS WOULD BE THE ACTUAL PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY AND PLACEMENT WAS DONE INTENTIONALLY.
AND THE APPLICANT CAN GO THROUGH THAT LATER IN THEIR PRESENTATION.
SO THE PROPOSED USE THAT'S OUTLINED IN THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS A LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY.
UH, WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY'RE, UM, ATTACHED MODULAR, PREFABRICATED, UM, INDUSTRIALIZED UNITS THAT COME PREFAB.
THEY GET JOINED TOGETHER, UM, SIMILAR TO A MODULAR, UM, HOME OR PREFABRICATED, UM, INDUSTRIAL BUILDING THAT YOU'LL SEE OFTENTIMES USED FOR STORAGE.
THERE WILL ALSO BE AN ANIMAL STORAGE PEN AND AN ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE.
THE ACTUAL PROPOSED SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE PROCESSING FACILITY IN OF ITSELF, AS IT STANDS NOW, IS SITUATED TO BE BASED ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN 2,400 SQUARE FEET.
SO AGAIN, THE ACTUAL PROCESSING FACILITY AS THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN SUBMITTED WITH THIS APPLICATION IS 2,400 SQUARE FEET.
THE FACILITY WILL BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH VARIOUS USE STANDARDS AND THOSE ARE ALSO INCLUDED WITH HIGHLIGHTS WITHIN THE PACKET HERE.
SO WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUFFERS.
WE LOOKED AT THAT INITIALLY IN THE ZONING AMENDMENT THAT YOU ALL JUST APPROVED.
A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFERS, 30 FOOT SETBACK, OR A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACKS, 30 FOOT BUFFERS, APOLOGIES.
SO THIS SITE SPECIFICALLY HAS GREATER BARRIERS AND BUFFERS OR SETBACKS AND BUFFERS THAN ARE REQUIRED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL JUST APPROVED.
PART OF THAT IS ACTUALLY BASED ON FEEDBACK RECEIVED FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, THE IMMEDIATE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS DID NOT PROVIDE ANY OVER OPPOSITION.
THE COMMENT WAS, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A SETBACK, MORE OF A BUFFER.
SO THIS OUTLINES THE EFFORTS TO WORK TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AND THAT'S ALSO WHAT DROVE SOME OF THE SITE SITUATION.
THIS IS AN OVERVIEW, AS I MENTIONED.
IT IS A MEAT MODULAR PROCESSING FACILITY.
IT'S VERY INNOVATIVE IN THAT, UM, EVERYTHING IS TEMPERATURE CONTROLLED, SELF-CONTAINED.
IT'S DONE, YOU KNOW, STEP BY STEP PROCESS THROUGH THAT, WHICH YOU WILL HEAR MORE ABOUT FROM THE APPLICANT IN GREATER DETAIL CUZ HE HAS A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION.
UM, SO THE USE STANDARDS AND CASE CONDITIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO ALL PROCESSING MUST BE DONE INTERIOR TO A BUILDING.
THE LIMIT OF 50 ANIMALS TO BE KEPT OVERNIGHT ANIMALS MUST BE MONITORED IN SOME FORM OR FASHION COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED.
SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN AS FAR AS HAVING A MODULAR BUILDING PLACED ON TOP OF A CONCRETE SLAB, UM, AS FAR AS HAVING IT ANCHORED SECURELY DOWN.
AND THAT'S 2,400 SQUARE FEET OF A MODULAR BUILDING.
UM, 50 FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE PROPERTY.
50 FOOT BUFFER SOUTH AND EAST.
AND THERE IS THE MINIMUM A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK.
THERE WILL BE A PAVED PARKING AREA.
THERE IS NO OUT SIDE STORAGE PERMITTED.
AND THE ONE STAFF MODIFICATION THAT HAS BEEN MADE SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS TO SIX A, WHICH WAS IN REGARDS TO SETBACKS AND BUFFER DISTANCE.
IT HAD, IT HAD LISTED SPECIFICALLY 50 50 FOOT BUFFER FOR THE WHOLE AREA, CORRECT.
SO IT WAS JUST TO CLARIFY THAT ON CERTAIN CERTAIN SIDES OF THE PROPERTY, THERE IS A 50 FOOT PERIMETER AND A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER.
UM, WITH REGARDS TO THAT, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD ON OCTOBER 3RD, UM, CHAIRMAN SPOON, HOWER SUPERVISOR LAS COLETTE AND 39 CITIZENS WERE IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING.
NO CITIZEN SPOKE AGAINST THE PROPOSAL STAFF AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTING THIS PRESENTATION.
HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON THE CASE.
UM, THERE IS CONCERN THAT HAS BEEN RECEIVED, UM, REGARDING THE BUFFERS AND I JUST MENTIONED THAT BRIEFLY IN THE PRIOR SLIDES.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED UPDATED PLANS WITH THE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER BASED ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
THE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT PROPERTY, UM, CONCERNS CITIZEN COMMENT TO DATE.
SO WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS OF VIA MS. LAS COLETTE AS WELL AS ONE EMAIL DIRECTLY COMING TO STAFF.
UM, AND MOST OF THOSE QUESTIONS SHOULD AT LEAST BE TOUCHED ON OR ADDRESSED THROUGH THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION
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THIS EVENING.UM, PLANNING COMMISSION MET ON NOVEMBER 3RD, HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
UM, AT THAT MEETING, THREE CITIZENS SPOKE IN SUPPORT AND TWO IN OPPOSITION.
UH, LITTLE OVERVIEW ON THE CONDITIONS OF THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IF APPROVED.
UM, THERE ARE USE RESTRICTIONS THAT LIMIT THE PURPOSE AND USE OF THE FACILITY.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT GOES BACK TO IT CANNOT ACTUALLY EXCEED 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS FOR 2,400 SQUARE FEET FOR THE ACTUAL PROCESSING FACILITY ITSELF.
IF THAT WERE TO INCREASE, AGAIN, THERE'S AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONDITIONS BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY HAVE IN THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
UM, AND THAT'S ANOTHER REQUIREMENT.
SO REQUIRED APPROVALS, THE C U P ACTIVITY SHALL NOT BEGIN UNTIL THERE'S AN APPROVED PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, AS IS STANDARD WITH ANY CONSTRUCTION OF ANY NEW STRUCTURE AND APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND MAY BE REQUIRED BY OTHER DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS A HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND OTHER REGULATORY PERMITS AND OTHER THINGS.
CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UM, AS PRESENTED, IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE USE SHALL GENERALLY CONFORM TO THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT A.
SO EVERYTHING IS BASED ON THAT EXHIBIT.
SO IF THERE WERE TO BE CHANGES, THEN AGAIN, THERE ARE MODIFICATIONS THAT ARE NEEDED TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THE FACILITY MUST COMPLY AGAIN WITH ALL APPLICABLE STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS REGARDING THE LICENSING AND OPERATION OF A MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY.
SO THAT WOULD GO FROM ANYTHING FROM YOUR VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, YOUR U S D A INSPECTION PROCESSES FOR FOOD, HEALTH AND SAFETY TO YOUR VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CONSUMER SERVICES, V D A S FOR ACTUALLY HAVING A ACCEPTABLE OPERATION AND CONTINUATION OF OPERATION PLANS TO DE Q FOR YOUR ENVIRONMENTAL PERMIT, EPA IF WARRANTED, AS WELL AS MAINTAINING COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, AGAIN, SETBACK, ALL BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES MUST BE SET BACK FROM ALL PROPERTY LINES, A MINIMUM OF A HUNDRED FEET.
UM, AND AGAIN, THIS GOES INTO A LITTLE DETAIL AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, ON THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AROUND THE PERIMETER.
SO IN ADDITION TO HAVING THE SETBACKS ALSO REQUIRING THE BUFFER TO PREVENT THE FACILITY FROM BEING VISIBLE, UM, OFF OF SITE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S THERE, BUT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE READILY VISIBLE FROM LINE OF SIGHT FROM THE STREET.
UM, HAVING EXISTING MATURE VEGETATION LOCATED WITHIN THE BUFFERS THAT CANNOT BE CLEARED UNLESS THOSE, UM, TREES OR OTHER SHRUBBERY HAVE VISIBLE SIGNS OF DISEASE OR THE VEGETATION IS ACTUALLY DEAD.
UM, WHERE THERE IS NO EXISTING VEGETATION IN A BUFFER, THEN THERE ARE ACTUALLY REQUIREMENTS AND GUIDELINES FOR WHAT CAN BE PUT IN PLACE, WHETHER THAT'S A BERM, FOUR FOOT EVERGREEN TREES IN EQUIVALENT LANDSCAPING.
UM, ALL VEGETATION IS REQUIRED TO BE MAINTAINED IN THIS, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT UNDER THESE CONDITIONS.
PROCESSING ALL PROCESSING MUST OCCUR IN THE MAIN BUILDING, WHICH MUST BE AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE, WHICH YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT IN THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.
STORAGE, ALL STORAGE MATERIALS MAY BE STORED WITHIN AN ENCLOSED ACCESSORY BUILDING.
SO FOR INSTANCE, OBVIOUSLY IT'S ON A LARGE TRACK OF LAND, SO IT, THEY'RE GONNA NEED A TRACTOR TO MOW THE ADJACENT, UM, LAND.
SO THERE MAY BE A SHED THAT HA HAS TO HOLD THAT TRACTOR, UM, OR MATERIALS RELATED TO, UM, ANYTHING TO MAINTAIN THE PEN, ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE.
HOWEVER, THERE CANNOT BE OUTSIDE STORAGE OF PRODUCTS, MATERIALS OR MACHINERY.
ANYTHING RELATED TO THE ACTUAL PROCESSING ITSELF.
SO WITH REGARDS TO THE ANIMALS, THE ANIMALS MAY BE ONLY KEPT OVERNIGHT IF THE PROPERTY IS FOLLOWING, IF THE THE FOLLOWING STANDARDS ARE MET, ANIMALS MUST BE KEPT IN A FULLY ENCLOSED AREA.
SO WHETHER THAT'S A PEN BARN, INDOORS HAS TO BE ENCLOSED.
SECURE AREA, OVERNIGHT SUPERVISION OF SOME FORM IS REQUIRED.
IT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH AN EMPLOYEE ON SITE OR THROUGH APPROPRIATE ELECTRONIC MONITORING.
AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE.
SO IF THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE THERE IS NOT SUPERVISION, THAT'S NOTED, AND THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE SHERIFF'S OFFICE GETS CALLS OR ANIMAL CARE AND CONTROL GETS CALLS THAT THERE'S COWS GOING UP AND DOWN THE STREET.
THAT'S THE, THAT CAN TRIGGER THE ABILITY FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO BE PULLED BECAUSE AGAIN, THE SUPERVISION AND THE PROPER SECURE SECURING OF THE ANIMALS IS REQUIRED IN THE CONDITIONAL USE CONDITIONS.
UM, SIGNAGE, UM, AGAIN, IT'S THE STANDARD SIGN ORDINANCE LANGUAGE, UM, OF WHAT WE REQUIRE OF ANY, UM, SIGN WITHIN THE COUNTY.
UM, EXPIRATION AT THIS TIME AS PROPOSED WOULD BE THE LAST DAY OF DECEMBER IN 2027.
UM, AGAIN, THAT'S CAN BE AMENDED SHOULD THE B BOARD WISH, BUT THAT IS YOUR STANDARD CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TIME ISSUANCE.
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IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S ANY TRANSFER LEASE OF THE FACILITY, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE WRITTEN NOTIFICATION PROVIDED TO THE COUNTY, SPECIFICALLY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND ITS DIRECTOR.ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PRESENTATION I PROVIDED? OKAY, I KNOW WE'VE GONE OVER THIS BEFORE, BUT JUST ONE MORE TIME.
SO THE PROPOSAL IS FOR 2,400 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY FOR PROCESSING, RIGHT? 2,400 SQUARE FEET.
AND SO YOU SAID THAT IF THEY WANTED TO EXPAND THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ANOTHER APPROVAL, ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN AMENDMENT.
I WILL DEFER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON THE EXACT PROCESS.
THE, UM, APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO AMEND THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO THE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S TELLING YOU NOW WHAT'S GONNA BE BUILT WHERE, AND THEY HAVE TO BUILD A CONFORMANCE WITH THAT.
SO IF IT DOESN'T SHOW, AND I'M NOT INTIMATELY FAMILIAR WITH THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, BUT IF IT DOESN'T SHOW ENOUGH TRAILERS THERE TO GO BEYOND 2,400 IN MODULAR UNITS, I'M SORRY, BUT TO GO BEYOND THAT 2,400 SQUARE FOOT, THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME IN TO AMEND.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO SEEK TO AMEND THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN THROUGH A PROFFER CONDITION AMENDMENT, WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO IF IT TO BE EXPANDED, IT MUST BE A PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
JUST MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE WAY THAT WORKS WITH A CONDITIONAL USED PERMANENT C P UM, THERE'S PROFFER CONDITIONS AND THOSE PROFFER CONDITIONS CREATE KIND OF A UNIQUE ZONING, IF I'M USING THE RIGHT WORDS HERE.
ACTUALLY, I MAY HAVE SAID PROFFERS, BUT THEY'RE IMPOSED CONDITIONS BY THE COUNTY, BY THE STAFF.
BUT SO THAT ANY CHANGES TO THOSE, IT WOULD BE A MATERIAL CHANGE TO THE C P AND THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE C P PROCESS AGAIN, INCLUDING A PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE ASK FOR THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION? OKAY.
THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD PLEASE.
I'M LEARNING ALL MY, I'M USING ALL MY SKILLS TONIGHT.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THE REST OF THE BOARD.
THANK Y'ALL FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT AND TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR ME OUT AND SEE WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BRING HERE TO GIN COUNTY.
UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHO WE ARE.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BE A SMALL LOCAL CERTIFIED HUMANE MEAT PROCESSOR CONSISTING OF EIGHT EMPLOYEES BASED OUT OF GWAN COUNTY.
OUR MISSION AT HG MEETS IS TO HELP LOCAL FARMERS TAKE BACK CONTROL OF LOCAL SUSTAINABLE ME PROCESSING.
RIGHT NOW THERE'S A REGIONAL SHORTAGE.
UH, A LOT OF THESE PROCESSORS HAVE BEEN KIND OF MONOPOLIES AND THE BIG PLAYERS HAVE TAKEN OVER ALL THE SMALL PLAYERS, WHICH HAS LED TO CHALLENGES FOR LOCAL FARMERS.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA BE OFFERING LOCAL CERTIFIED HUMANE MEAT PROCESSING PRIMARILY TO GIN COUNTY AS WELL AS SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
WE'RE A SMALL LOCAL U S D A REGULATED FACILITY, UH, OFFERING LOCAL FAM UH, FARMERS THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY OF GLIN AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
UH, FARM TO TABLE MEAT CONSUMPTION.
WE'RE CERTIFIED HUMANE MEAT PROCESSING AND THE MAXIMUM OPERATING CAPACITY WE HAVE IS 75 HEAD PER WEEK.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN STARTING OUT WE WILL BE DOING 75 HEAD PER WEEK.
UH, THAT IS JUST THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY THAT OUR FACILITY WILL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE.
WHY ARE WE DOING THIS? WHY AM I DOING THIS? UM, AS A LITTLE BACKSTORY, I WAS APPROACHED BY A FARMER, A LOCAL FARMER HERE IN GLAND.
WHEN I TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY OPENING UP A BUTCHER, I HAD A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE WORKING IN ONE AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT I'D BE VERY INTERESTED IN BRINGING TO, TO GUCCI COUNTY.
AND THE MORE I LEARNED ABOUT THAT, IT WAS NOT A BAD IDEA, BUT THE REAL PROBLEM THAT WAS GOING ON WAS, THERE'S A SHORTAGE, ESPECIALLY IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA FOR LOCAL SMALL PROCESSORS LIKE MYSELF, OR PEOPLE THAT MAYBE
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WANT TO GET INTO RAISING CATTLE OR CURRENTLY HAVE CATTLE, CAN'T GET ANY MORE CATTLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GET SOLDER DATES IN ANY OF THE FACILITIES IN THIS STATE, AND SOME EVEN IN OTHER STATES LIKE NORTH CAROLINA AND MARYLAND.SO THAT IN MIND, AS I MENTIONED, THE CURRENT POTENTIAL FARMERS RIGHT NOW, IT'S SUCH A SHORTAGE.
UM, THE DEMAND FOR, UH, THESE SOLDER DATES IS SO HIGH AND THE SUPPLY IS SO LOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BEING DISCOURAGED FROM EVEN DOING IT.
UM, AND THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE PRIOR RELATIONSHIPS, AS SOME OF THE FARMERS HAVE TOUCHED ON EARLIER, ARE REALLY BEING BOXED OUT OF THE ENTIRE THING, ENTIRE, UH, INDUSTRY.
UH, THERE IS A UP TO TWO YEAR IN ADVANCE.
IT DOES VARY BY YOUR EXISTING RELATIONSHIP WITH A CURRENTS SOLD HOUSE IN THE STATE.
BUT FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO BREAK INTO THE BUSINESS, I'VE HEARD FROM MULTIPLE FARMERS THAT TWO YEARS IS, UM, THEY'RE SEEING UP TO TWO YEARS TO, TO GET A S SOLDER DATE.
UH, AND ON TOP OF THAT, LOCAL FARMERS AND, UH, ARE TRYING TO KIND OF GET AROUND THAT AND FIND SOLDER HOUSES OUTSIDE OF THE STATE, UM, OR IN FAR DRIVES THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.
UM, SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THEY'RE GOING TO MARYLAND, THEY'RE GOING TO NORTH CAROLINA.
NOT ONLY DOES THAT HURT THEIR BUSINESS WITH THEIR TRANSPORTATION COSTS, BUT IT'S ALSO BAD FOR THE ANIMALS.
IT STRESSES THE ANIMALS OUT, IT HURTS THEIR PRODUCT.
AND, UH, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR ANY OF THE PARTIES INVOLVED JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS AND ON HOW OUR OPERATION WILL WORK.
UH, WE HAVE TO ADHERE, UH, TO ALL THE U S D A REGULATIONS AND WE'RE ONLY BE DOING CERTIFIED HUMANE PROCESSING UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF THE U S D A.
THEY'RE GONNA BE ONSITE ALL TIMES DURING THE TERMINAL PROCESS WHILE ALSO INSPECTING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE CLEANING THE FACILITY UP TO THE U S D A CODE AS FAR AS THE
UM, AND THE PRODUCT THAT THE FARMERS WILL BE TAKING, UM, AFTER THE SOLDERING PROCESS, ALL THAT'S GONNA BE COLLECTED AND CONTROLLED IN THE CLIMATE CONTROLLED FACILITY.
THAT'S GONNA HELP LIMIT THE SMELL AND NOT BE VISIBLE FOR ANYONE THAT'S AROUND THE FACILITY.
UM, AND THAT SERVICE IS GONNA BE VALUED.
PROTEINS, THEY HAVE EXISTING RELATIONSHIPS WITH, UH, A DECENT AMOUNT OF SLAUGHTERHOUSES IN THE STATE AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY HEADQUARTERED OUT OF ASHLAND.
UM, AND MY UNDERSTANDING WITH TALKS WITH THEM, THEY HAVE NO PROBLEM ACCOMMODATING US.
WE WOULD BE THE FIRST PERSON ON THE ROUTE.
WE WOULD BE THE CLOSEST U S D A FACILITY TO THEIR HEADQUARTERS.
SO IT'S A GOOD FIT RIGHT THERE.
AND WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO FILL THEIR WORD AND DO AS, AS THEY'VE TOLD US THEY CAN.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S CLEAN TO U S D A STANDARDS AFTER EACH AND EVERY ANIMAL COMES THROUGH.
UH, THE CLEANING SUPPLIES WE WERE USING ARE NOT YOUR STANDARD CLEANING SUPPLIES, WHICH I KNOW WAS, UH, MISSPOKEN IN A PREVIOUS MEETING.
WHAT IS USED TO CLEAN THESE FACILITIES? IT'S A BIODEGRADABLE VINEGAR BASED ACIDIC WASH THAT'S FOOD FRIENDLY.
YOU CAN'T HAVE BLEACH, YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY CHEMICALS THAT'S GONNA TOUCH FOOD.
SO THAT'S, IT'S REGULATED IN THAT WAY.
EVERYTHING THAT IS GONNA BE USED TO WASH DOWN IS BIODEGRADABLE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY IN THAT, IN THAT WAY.
AND AS FAR AS THE MANURE AND THE CORRAL WASTE, UH, WE'LL BE WORKING WITH A THIRD PARTY, UH, THAT WILL BE ESSENTIALLY HAVING A DUMPSTER RIGHT THERE ON THE SITE COVERED.
SO THAT'S AWAY FROM ANY RAIN GETTING IN THERE.
ALL THE, UH, MANURE THAT IS COLLECTED OVER THE WEEK FROM THE ANIMALS IN THE CORRAL SYSTEM WILL BE COLLECTED AND TAKEN OFF SITE.
A LOT OF THIS MANURE IS USED FOR FERTILIZATION ON OTHER FARMS AND DOES NOT GO TO WASTE.
AS FAR AS THE OVERSIGHT GOES, ALL THIS IS GONNA BE DONE THROUGH REGULATIONS AND PERMITTING, UM, FROM NUMEROUS ENTITIES, THE MAIN ONES BEING THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE AND CONSUMER SERVICES, UH, OF COURSE THE U S D A, THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, AND AS WELL AS THE, THE EPA, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY.
UH, WE'LL BE ADHERING TO ALL THE REGULATIONS OF PERMITTING NECESSARY TO ENSURE WE OPERATE HUMANELY WHILE ALSO BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS.
TO TOUCH ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT OF THIS FACILITY, UM, WE'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH OUR ENGINEER, UM, AS WELL AS OUR SEPTIC DESIGN AND BUILDER, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WETLANDS AND STREAMS HAVE BEEN PROFESSIONALLY DELINEATED ON SITE.
WE FEEL THAT WE'VE PICKED THE VERY BEST LOCATION ON THIS PROPERTY TO HAVE THIS SITE CONSTRUCTED AND OPERATING UNDER.
UM, OUR FACILITIES HAVE BEEN LAID OUT SO THAT THERE'S NO WETLANDS AND STREAMS THAT WILL BE IMPACTED BASED ON HOW, WHERE
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THE SITE IS ON THE PROPERTY AND HOW THE FLOW WILL WORK INTO OUR, UM, INTO OUR STORM WATER BASIN THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE ON SITE.IT'S GONNA BE HANDLED BY CONSTRUCTING, UH, THE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
THE DEQ, UH, REGARDING WATER, WATER QUALITY, AND THE QUALITY QUANTITY OF STORM WATER LEAVING THE SITE.
SANITARY WASTE FROM THE OFFICE BUILDING IS, UH, IT'S GONNA BE TREATED BY DRAINFIELD DESIGN TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF VDH.
SO BASICALLY THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THE ACTUAL FACILITY WILL HAVE TWO SEPARATE SEP SEPTIC SYSTEMS. THE ONE FOR THE ACTUAL FACILITY IS MUCH MORE COMPLEX, WHEREAS THE ONE FOR THE OFFICE IS MORE OF A TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL SEPTIC SYSTEM.
UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, AS FAR AS THE WASH DOWN GOES, THE FACILITY WE'RE ONLY BE USING NON-TOXIC VINEGAR BASED AND BIODEGRADABLE WASH TO CLEAN THE FACILITY UNDER U S D A REGULATIONS.
THE WASH WATER WILL THEN BE COLLECTED PRETREATED AND RELEASED INTO COMMERCIAL DRAIN FIELD THAT IS PERMITTED BY THE EPA AND REGULATED BY THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
UM, AS SOMETHING THAT IS, UH, SOMEWHAT RECENTLY CAME UP, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DEFINITELY ARE WILLING TO DO TO WORK WITH THE COUNTY, UH, WOULD BE JUST IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COVERING ALL OF OUR BASE WITH THE ENVIRONMENT.
WE'VE AGREED TO PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY, UM, BEFORE ANY, UH, ANY SITE DEVELOPMENT BEGINS AFTER THIS PHASE, BEFORE ANY CONSTRUCTION ACTUALLY TAKES PLACE FOR THE WATER USAGE.
UH, IT'S PROVIDED FROM A DRILLED, WELL PERMITTED BY THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, WE'RE GONNA BE USING APPROXIMATELY 1200 TO 1500 GALLONS PER DAY.
UM, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE TO GIVE KIND OF COMPARISON ON THIS PROPERTY, THERE'S TECHNICALLY A BUY RIGHT SUBDIVISION OF SIX RESIDENTIAL WATTS THAT YOU COULD DO ON THIS PROPERTY.
UM, THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WOULD COME WITH THOSE SIX RESIDENTIAL LOTS, UH, WE FOUND THAT ON AVERAGE A HOUSEHOLD TAKES ABOUT 300 GALLONS OF WATER PER DAY.
SO AT THE MINIMUM, IF THERE WERE SIX RESIDENTIAL LOTS, YOU'D BE LOOKING AT 1800 GALLONS PER DAY.
UM, ONE OF THE GOOD THINGS ABOUT OUR SITE IS IT IS FAIRLY BIG WITH BEING ALMOST 68 ACRES.
UM, WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF WATER TO NOT ONLY SERVE US, BUT ALSO NOT AFFECT ANY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND THEIR USE WITH THEIR WATER TO TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT.
CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A BIG CONCERN.
UM, WE LOOKED AT A LOT OF SITES WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG PROCESS WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING.
AND BEFORE WE EVEN HAD A CONTRACT ON THE LAND OR ANYTHING, IT WAS SENT TO THE COUNTY TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS WOULD BE A VIABLE OPTION IN THE LOCATION.
THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE, UM, NOT JUST FOR THE ZONING ASPECT OF IT, BUT JUST FOR THE TRAFFIC WHERE IT'S SITUATED, WHERE IT IS ALONG OLD FREDERICKSBURG BEING AS CLOSE TO THE INTERSTATE AS POSSIBLE.
UH, WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF STUDYING INTO, UH, THE MOST RECENT TRAFFIC DATA, UH, TAMED IV DOT, WHICH WAS IN 2001, WHICH SHOWED THAT THIS SECTION OF OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD WHERE WE'RE AT CARRIES ABOUT 950 VEHICLES PER DAY.
THIS SITE, AT MOST, WILL GENERATE 50 TRIPS PER DAY.
THAT'S INCLUDING EMPLOYEES COMING AND GOING, FARMERS PICKING UP AND DROPPING OFF.
AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S A VERY HIGH NUMBER.
I DON'T DON'T EXPECT IT TO BE THAT MUCH, BUT JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, 50 TRIPS PER DAY, IF IT'S DOING 950 VEHICLES ALREADY A DAY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT MOST OF 5% INCREASE IN TRAFFIC.
UM, ANOTHER AS, ANOTHER FACT WE FOUND THROUGH THE, THE VDOT STUDY WAS THAT THIS ROAD ITSELF ACTUALLY HAS THE CARING CAPACITY OF UP TO 10,000 VEHICLES PER DAY.
SO IN THAT PERSPECTIVE, THE TRAFFIC FROM THE SITE WOULD REPRESENT LESS THAN 1% OF THE ROAD'S CARING CAPACITY, FULL, FULL POTENTIAL CARRY CAPACITY.
OUR ENGINEERS VERIFIED THAT THE VDOT SITE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS CAN BE MET.
THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE LOCATION, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT THAT WENT INTO IT.
THE COUNTY HAD ASKED US TO TIE IT INTO ONE OF THE TWO, UH, ENTRANCES FOR MIDPOINT INDUSTRIAL PARK ACROSS THE STREET.
UH, WE, WE LOOKED AT THE FIRST ENTRANCE AND THERE'S ACTUALLY A GRAVEYARD, A CEMETERY RIGHT ACROSS FROM THERE THAT REALLY MADE IT ALMOST, I DON'T WANNA SAY IMPOSSIBLE, BUT EXTREMELY CHALLENGING.
AND THERE WOULD'VE BEEN A LOT OF WINDING AROUND TO GET AROUND THAT AND IT DIDN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE.
AND AS I'LL SHOW YOU LATER ON THE MAP, I ACTUALLY THINK THE SECOND ENTRANCE, THERE'S LESS OF A BLIND SPOT.
IT SHOULD BE A SAFER WAY FOR THE TRAFFIC TO BE TURNING IN AND OUT, UM, ONTO OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.
I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FREES
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FREE IS A CONSULTANT GROUP THAT I REACHED OUT TO, UM, AS I WAS FINISHING UP GRADUATE SCHOOL IN 2020, WHICH JUST SHOWS HOW LONG I'VE BEEN ON THIS PROJECT.BUT AT THE TIME, I KNEW I NEEDED SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP WITH NOT JUST THE CONSULTING, BUT ALSO THE FACILITY ITSELF.
THEY WILL BE BUILDING FACILITY IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON WHILE THIS WHOLE TIME PROVIDING US WITH CONSULTATION.
UM, AS FAR AS THE U S D A GOES, AS FAR AS THE TRAINING GOES, THE IMPLEMENTATION, THE OPERATIONAL SIDE REALLY KIND OF AS I SAID, A FULL STOP SHOP, UM, THEIR MISSION AT FREE, IT'S TO HELP FARMERS TAKE BACK CONTROL OF LOCAL MEAT PROCESSING.
I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE JBSS, THE SMITHFIELD, THESE BIG NOTABLE KIND OF GIANT FACILITIES THAT I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA THAT THIS IS GONNA BE SIMILAR TO, THAT THIS IS A VERY NICHE, SMALL, SMALL PROCESSOR THAT IS NOT GONNA EVEN COME CLOSE TO SOME CAPACITY OF WHAT, WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING.
UM, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE WHOLE IDEA FREELY HAS, IS TO TAKE IT BACK INTO THE MORE REGIONAL HANDS, KEEP IT HERE IN THE STATE VIRGINIA, HERE IN GUCCI COUNTY, SERVING OUR COUNTY AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
UM, AND ANOTHER PART OF THEIR, THEIR MISSION STATEMENT IS, UH, THEY BELIEVE THAT THE FARM TO TABLE CONNECTION HAS BEEN DIMINISHED BY CORPORATE COMMER COMMERCIALIZATION OVER THE PAST HALF DECADE.
AND IT'S WORTH RESTORING FOR OUR ANIMALS, FARMERS COMMUNITIES ENVIRONMENT.
AND I TRULY, UH, AGREE WITH THAT AND BELIEVE THAT THAT IS THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT LOOKING AT IT.
ON THE, THE RIGHT IS JUST A SHORT BROCHURE.
IT'S A LITTLE TOUGH TO READ ON HERE, I APOLOGIZE.
BUT AT THE TOP YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE WHAT THE SYSTEM, A RENDITION OF WHAT THE SYSTEM WOULD LOOK LIKE, UH, FROM THE INSIDE.
GREAT THING ABOUT FREESO IS THEY HAVE A FULL STOP SUPPORT TEAM.
AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, GREG ON THE BOTTOM, HE WAS A 27 YEAR U S D A INSPECTOR.
UM, HE'S IN CHARGE OF HELPING US WITH ALL THE U S D A AND REGULATORY PERMITTING.
UM, AFTER HOPEFULLY GETTING THROUGH THIS PHASE, UM, WE HAVE TRAINING ON SITE.
UM, WE HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S GONNA BE THERE TO HELP THE INSTALLATION.
UM, AS IN ALL THE OPERATIONS THAT GO INTO IT, WE WILL NOT BE DOING THIS ALONE.
WE'LL BE DOING THIS WITH THE PROFESSIONALS.
I GUESS IT'S REALLY ABOUT 67.91, BUT IT'S ZONE DAY ONE RIGHT OFF THE HAYDENS LITTLE EXIT OFF INTERSTATE 64 ON OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.
AND AS I MENTIONED, I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS THE BEST LOCATION BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE YOU ACROSS FROM MIDPOINT RIGHT HERE, UM, YOU DON'T TECHNICALLY PASS ANY RESIDENCES GETTING HERE.
I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE RESIDES NEARBY DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, HOWEVER, BEING THE CLOSEST WE POSSIBLY CAN TO THAT EXIT, IN MY OPINION, IS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
AND WITH THE SIZE OF OUR OPERATION, THERE WILL NOT BE TRACTOR TRAILERS WITH HUGE TRAILERS PULLING BEHIND.
AT MOST IT'S GONNA BE A GOOSENECK TRAILER PULLING ONE TO TWO COWS AT A TIME.
UM, YOU CAN'T FIT ANYMORE ON THAT AT A TIME.
UH, SO REALLY AS I MENTIONED TOO, UM, THAT FIRST ENTRANCE TO MIDPOINT, THERE IS A, UH, A BIT OF A BLIND SPOT CORNER AROUND HERE, BUT IT DOES FLATTEN OUT RIGHT HERE.
AND OUR ENTRANCE IS GONNA BE RIGHT HERE COMING INTO TO THIS AREA RIGHT HERE.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF KIND OF THE CURRENT LANDSCAPE OF THIS PART OF GIN COUNTY.
UM, AS MENTIONED, MIDPOINT IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S ABOUT 24 WATTS, UM, THAT ARE NOT ALL THE SAME ACREAGE, BUT UM, THEY ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD FIT FOR US TO BE RIGHT THERE WITH THEM.
UM, A LOT OF THESE, UH, CURRENT SOLDER HOUSES ACROSS THE STATE ARE, UM, PAIRED NEAR TO AN INDUSTRIAL PARK OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT.
UM, SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS ANOTHER REASON WHY THIS WAS A GOOD FIT AT THIS LOCATION.
IT GIVES YOU ANOTHER BETTER IDEA OF WHEREABOUTS IT IS ON THE, ON THE IN BETWEEN INTERSTATE 64 AND OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.
UM, WE ESSENTIALLY ARE BORDERING LISA ON YOUR, YOUR TOP LEFT HERE, WHICH WOULD BE, UM, I GUESS YOUR, YOUR NORTHWESTERN PART RIGHT HERE.
UM, PORTING 64, GOING FURTHER INTO WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA LOOK LIKE.
THIS IS FREE'S GENERIC SITE PLAN, UM, THAT WE TRIED OUR BEST TO, TO COPY AND MIMIC BECAUSE IT'S A U S D A PATENT FACILITY.
IT'S, IT'S, THEY'VE GOT IT DOWN TO A SCIENCE.
IT'S ALL, LIKE I SAID, PATENTED AND DONE WITH NDAS AND IT'S VERY EFFICIENT.
UM, THERE'S ABOUT TWO EMPLOYEES FOR EACH MODEL, HENCE THE EIGHT EMPLOYEES.
UM, YOU'RE STARTING WITH THE HARVEST MODULE COMING FROM THE HOLDING PIN, THEN INTO THE
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AGING CORE AND THEN INTO THE CUT AND WRAP MODULE AND THEN INTO THE FINISHED GOOD FREEZER WHERE THE LOADING ZONE IS ACTUALLY RIGHT HERE AT THE BOTTOM.AND WE DID OUR BEST TO, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SLIDE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING HERE WAS AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.
IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE IN THIS PICTURE, BUT I KNOW IT WAS PREVIOUSLY NOTED THAT, UM, WE HAD 50 FOOT BUFFERS, UM, HERE ALONG THE ROAD.
A HUNDRED RIGHT HERE, A HUNDRED RIGHT HERE.
AND IT WAS PREVIOUSLY SHOWN AS 50.
WE HAD MORE FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORS THAT WANTED, WELL, IF IT'S A HUNDRED ON THIS SIDE, WHY CAN'T IT BE A HUNDRED ON THIS SIDE? WE WERE WILLING TO, TO ACCOMMODATE THAT AND MAKE THAT A HUNDRED.
SO IF YOU LOOK, THERE'S A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALL ALONG HERE, ALMOST LIKE A HORSESHOE.
SO WE'VE GONE OVER WHAT THE COUNTY REQUESTED IN AN EFFORT TO BE TUCKED AWAY, TRY TO KEEP OUR NEIGHBORS HAPPY AND NOT HAVE THIS AS, UM, JUST WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD, YOU SEE A BIG COMMERCIAL, OR NOT A BIG, BUT A SMALL LOCAL PROCESSOR LIKE THAT.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE LIMITED SIGNAGE, WHICH WE AGREED WITH THE COUNTY TOO.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A GATE VIDEO SURVEILLANCE.
AND ALL THIS AS YOU, UM, CAN SEE HERE IS IT'S HEAVILY, HEAVILY WOODED.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE CUTTING OUT A ROAD RIGHT HERE INTO HERE.
AND WE ARE, I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS 217 FEET OFF THE ROAD, UM, AT OUR CLOSEST POINT RIGHT HERE.
UM, ANDREW CAN VERIFY THAT HERE IN A SECOND.
UM, BUT BASICALLY WITH THE BUFFER AND THEN EVEN AFTER THE BUFFER, IT'S GONNA BE ALL WOODED LAND THAT WILL HELP KEEP IT LESS VISIBLE AND HELP WITH ANY POTENTIAL NOISES.
EVEN THOUGH I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE WILL BE MANY OUTSIDE OF THE ANIMALS THAT WILL BE IN THE CORRAL.
THE ACTUAL OPERATION INSIDE IS DONE IN INSULATED UNITS.
UM, IT'S ALL INSIDE AND CLIMATE CONTROL, MEANING ALL THE DOORS ARE CLOSED, EVERYTHING'S CLOSED, THERE'S VERY LITTLE NOISE, IF ANY AT ALL FROM THE OUTSIDE.
UM, SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU WOULD DO IS YOU COME IN HERE, THIS IS A PAVED ROAD.
YOU COME AND DROP OFF HERE, THIS IS AN UNLOADING ZONE, AND THEN YOU WOULD DRIVE AROUND HERE, CIRCLE YOUR WAY BACK OUT AND LEAVE.
SO IT'S JUST, IT FUNCTIONS VERY WELL THIS WAY.
UM, SOME OF THE PREVIOUS FACILITIES IN THE STATE, THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC JAMS AND A LOT OF IT WAS JUST NOT PLANNED OUT THE RIGHT WAY.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE IT AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN QUICKLY, GET THEIR ANIMALS UNLOADED, AND THEN CIRCLE ABOUT AND GET OUT OF THERE.
UM, RIGHT HERE IS OUR STORM WATER BASE AND THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE.
AND WE STRUCTURE THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND ANDREW CAN SHED MORE LIGHT ON THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHERE IT'S LOCATED AND WHERE THE POTENTIAL RUNOFF WOULD BE WOULD BE AWAY FROM ANY STREAMS, ANY WATERSHEDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A HAZARD.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS THE SYSTEM, THE FREEZER SYSTEM HERE.
THIS IS THEIR KIND OF ENTRY LEVEL SYSTEM.
THEY HAVE THREE DIFFERENT ONES, BUT THIS IS THE SYSTEM THAT, UH, CAN DO 75 HEAD OF CATTLE PER WEEK.
AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE GONNA NOT FOCUS ON IS GETTING AS MANY AS WE CAN.
THE QUANTITY, WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSING MORE ON THE QUALITY.
UM, I DON'T EXPECT TO BE DOING MORE THAN 50 HEAD OF CATTLE.
UM, DEFINITELY NOT STARTING OUT.
UM, AND AS MENTIONED, IF THERE EVER WERE EXPANSION PLANS, WE WOULD HAVE TO COME TO THIS WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPANSION PLANS THAT COULD, I GUESS, CHANGE, BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, THAT'S WHAT OUR GOAL IS RIGHT THERE TO MAKE THAT FACILITY THE BEST POSSIBLE AND WE CAN MAKE IT.
THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF IT IN ACTION.
UM, AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY IS A MODULAR SYSTEM.
THESE UNITS ARE BUILT IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON AND BROUGHT IN ON FLATBEDS ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND PLACED DOWN ON A RAISED CONCRETE BED.
UM, THE REASON IT'S RAISED IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL YOUR PIPES AND INSULATION UNDERNEATH AS WELL AS ALL OF YOUR BASINS TO CATCH, AT LEAST IN THE HARVEST MODULE, TO CATCH ALL THE AL GUTS BLOOD AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT WILL BE COLLECTED AND CARRIED OUT BY VALLEY PROTEINS.
HERE'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE KIND OF IN THE EARLY PROCESS OF IT BEING BUILT.
ANOTHER VERY SIMILAR PICTURE, JUST THIS IS A SITE OUT IN MONTANA THAT THEY'VE RECENTLY, UH, COMPLETING.
UM, THERE, AS YOU SEE RIGHT THERE, IT'S RAISED, UM, UNDERNEATH THERE WOULD BE ALL THE PIPES AND ALSO THE COLLECTING BASINS FOR ALL OF THE, UH, THE BLOOD, THE O THE CARCASS AND THE BONES BURNS.
UM, THAT IS UH, KIND OF THE BRUN OF THE, THE
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PRESENTATION.ANY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS WOULD LOVE TO HEAR.
UM, IF YOU, THANK YOU MR. HALL, MR. WILKINS KNOCK KNOCKED OUT A COUPLE OF, I KIND OF, IT'S ALMOST GONNA GET YOU TO PAUSE A COUPLE OF SLIDES BACK WHERE YOU HAD THE SITE PLAN, JUST MAYBE THREE, THREE SLIDES BACK.
UM, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, UH, THIS ONE OR YOU WANNA KEEP YEP, THAT'S IT.
UM, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC FLOW AND ALL AND WHERE THE FACILITY IS, IS THAT, I'M ASSUMING THAT GREEN STRETCH IS WHERE THE OVERNIGHT, THAT THAT LITTLE GREEN, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE'S THE OVERNIGHT THAT IT'S THE BROWN ONE.
THE, THE BROWN ONE IS THE HOLDING PEN.
OH, THE, IT'S UH, 60 FEET RECTANGULAR FEET HOLDING PEN.
SEE, I CAN'T READ ON MY SCREEN HERE, BUT I, I GUESS THE, OKAY, THEY, OKAY, SO THEY, YOU SAID THEY DROP 'EM OFF IN THE HOLDING AREA.
I CAN GIVE YOU, UM, RIGHT HERE IS KIND OF THE ENTRANCE TO IT RIGHT THERE.
IF YOU SEE, AND THAT'S THE HOLDING PIN.
AND THEY WOULD BE, SO WHERE'S THE EVENTUALLY THERE WOULD BE ROUNDED UP INTO HERE AND THEN EVERYTHING IS DONE INSIDE AND THERE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE, COULD MAKE THE LITTLE L SHAPE OR DOWN, DOWN THERE.
SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, IN YOUR EARLY SLIDE PROCESS SLIDE AND YOU, IN THE BEGINNING YOU TALKED, WERE GONNA BE A CERTIFIED FACILITY, YOU, YOU SAID THAT A FEW TIMES MM-HMM.
YEAH, WELL, NO, MY QUESTION, MAYBE YOU WERE ANTICIPATING MY QUESTION.
WHAT IS CERTIFIED HUMANE PROCESSING? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT THAT IS DONE UNDER THE U S D A OVERSIGHT? THAT MEANS THAT THE ANIMALS WILL BE KILLED IN A CERTIFIED HUMANE WAY.
UM, AND THEN FROM THERE EVERYTHING IS DONE UNDER THE U S D A INSPECTION UNDER THEIR EYES, WHICH THEY DEEM CERTIFIED HUMANE.
SO, SO THIS CUZ WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT WE'RE DOING CERTIFIED, I FIGURED YOU WERE GETTING, YOU WERE GOING TO OPERATE CERTIFICATION, BUT YOU'RE JUST MEETING U S D I DON'T MEAN TO DIMINISH IT BY, BUT, BUT THIS CERTIFICATION IS MEETING U S D A STANDARDS THAT SAY YOU HAVE TO DO THIS TO BE A CERTIFIED HUMANE PROCESSING FACILITY.
IS THAT A REQUIREMENT, UM, THAT YOU JUST HAVE AUTOMATICALLY OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE AGREED WITH THE U S D A TO DO? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND I CAN HAVE SOMEONE SHED A LITTLE MORE LIGHT ON THAT, BUT THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING AS PART OF U S D A PRO PRACTICES, IT HAS TO BE CERTIFIED US HUMANE.
WELL THE REASON IS A, YOU EMPHASIZED IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION AND LIKE IF YOU WERE HERE EARLIER, WE HAD A DEVELOPER PUTTING IN HOMES AND YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY SAY WE'RE GONNA HAVE WOODED LIGHTS AND WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, DO NICE HOMES.
BUT FROM THE COUNTY'S PERSPECTIVE, IF IT'S NOT IN THE, IN A CASE OF A C U P, IF IT'S NOT IN THE PROFFERS, THEN IF YOU DON'T MEET THE STANDARDS YOU TOLD US AT THIS MEETING, THEN YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY WE'RE JUST, WE'RE LEFT SAYING, WELL, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
SO THAT'S WHY IF IT WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU, I WAS THINKING THAT IS IT IMPORTANT TO US AND THEREFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE IN A, IN A CONDITION.
BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THIS IS JUST THE BASELINE, IT'S PART OF THE U S D A REGULATIONS AND, UM, WHICH YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE, WHICH YOU, THE REGULATIONS YOU WOULD HAVE TO MEET TO BE ABLE TO BE U S S D A CERTIFIED.
UM, YOU, WHEN YOU WENT TO THE PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, UH, YOU SAID YOU WERE DOING THAT, YOU SAID YOU WERE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AS AND, AND TELL ME A LITTLE BIT, YOU, IT'S NOT SOMETHING I WOULD NECESSARILY FOCUS ON, BUT WHEN YOU BROUGHT IT UP AND YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS.
SO WE'VE HAD, WHY DID THAT COME UP? WELL, I'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THE COUNTY, UM, FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS NOW WITH THIS PROJECT GOING OVER DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF IT ALL BUILDING UP TO THIS POINT HERE.
UH, WE'VE DONE OUR BEST TO TRY TO TAKE THE, THIS IS OUR THIRD MEETING NOW, UM, THAT WE'VE HAD, WE HAD THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND THEN WE HAD THE ZONING ORDINANCE MEETING OUT AT THE FIRE STATION SIX IN HAYDENVILLE.
UM, AND THE FEEDBACK WE'VE ALL GOTTEN BACK FROM THEM IS WHAT'S LED US TO AGREE TO THESE CONDITIONS THAT THE COUNTY HAS PROPOSED.
SOME OF THEM SPECIFICALLY PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO IS WHAT I'M ASKING ABOUT.
ANDREW BROWNING 9 23 STONE CASTLE DRIVE.
I'LL TAKE THAT QUESTION MR. LUMPKIN.
SO IN, IN A DISCUSSION, IN AN EFFORT TO SHOW WE'RE TRYING TO BE ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDS, ENVIRONMENT FRIENDLY, THE, THE GOAL WAS TO GO OUT AND DO A PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO STUDY NOW TO ESTABLISH LIKE A BASELINE, HERE'S WHAT THE SITE IS TODAY, HERE, THE CONDITIONS OF THE SITE, AND THEN WHEN THE CU COME C P COMES BACK OF RENEWAL, DO IT AGAIN.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY WE CAN MONITOR, OR THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE COULD DO IT, YOU KNOW, AT MORE FREQUENT TIMELINES TO MONITOR THE SITE TO VERIFY THAT THE CONDITIONS
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AREN'T CHANGING AS A RESULT OF THIS OPERATION.SO WILL YOU'LL DO YOUR PHASE ONE, WILL YOU AUTOMATICALLY DO A PHASE TWO OR WILL YOU ONLY DO A PHASE TWO IF THE PHASE ONE INDICATES A PHASE TWO IS NEEDED? SO WHAT TYPICALLY IS DONE IS YOU DO A PHASE ONE.
IF SOMETHING OUT ON THE SITE DICTATES THAT THERE APPEARS TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOME AREA OF CONCERN, WE WOULD DO A PHASE TWO.
SO I THINK IN, IN THIS INSTANCE, TO TRY TO, TO LOOK FOR WHAT WE WOULD WANT TO LOOK FOR, WE PROBABLY WOULD DO SOME WATER SAMPLING, SOME SOIL SAMPLING, UH, WHICH IS TYPICALLY ASSOCIATED WITH A PHASE TWO, JUST TO ESTABLISH SOME BASELINE FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS TODAY.
AND I TAKE IT YOU'LL SHARE THAT WITH THE COUNTY, YOU'LL SHARE THOSE RESULTS WITH THE COUNTY, THE PHASE ONE PHASE.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT THIS LATER IN THE C YOU'LL, YOU'LL, YOU'LL, THIS CAME UP ALSO WHAT IT CAUSED WHEN YOU SAW IT CAUSED ME TO LOOK AT THE APPLICATION AND YOU LOOK LIKE YOU SIGNED YOUR NAME FOR GIZA INVESTMENTS LLC IS, SO IS THIS YOUR OWN PROPERTY? DID YOU GIZA GIZA INVESTMENTS LLC IS THE, UH, I GUESS INVESTMENT GROUP.
THE SELLING GROUP, THOSE ARE THE SELLERS WHO I HAVE A CONTRACT ON THIS PROPERTY WITH MY CONTRACT RIGHT NOW IS PENDING, UH, APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOZA INVESTMENTS? NO, SIR.
THEY'RE THE OWNER OF THE LAND.
I BELIEVE IT'S EITHER FIVE TO NINE OWNERS.
IT WAS, UM, AND MY LAWYER, UH, CHRIS, HE IS WELL VERSED IN THAT AND CAN WELL JUST FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, THE APPLICATION LOOKS LIKE IT'S SIGNED BY PROPERTY OWNER GOODS INVESTMENTS.
IT HAS YOUR NAME NEXT TO IT, BUT, BUT WHATEVER.
YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY THERE WITH THE LANDOWNER'S PERMISSION, BUT THAT WAS THE OTHER THING THAT GAVE ME PAUSE.
I'M LIKE, HE'S DOING A PHASE ONE IN HIS OWN PROPERTY THAT, BUT, BUT YOU'VE CLARIFIED IT.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THIS POINT.
UM, FIRST, WHAT IS GOLIN COUNTY'S DEMAND FOR CATTLE PROCESSING AND, AND CAN YOU GO INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR OTHER MEAT PROCESSING? UM, I'D LOVE TO HEAR GOIN FIRST.
UH, SEVERAL FARMERS IN HERE, YOU'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF 'EM, SOME HAVE BEEN FROM LOUISA, SOME OF 'EM FROM GOLAND.
UM, THE PERSON THAT I WAS APPROACHED TO, TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE IS A LOCAL GOLAND FARMER.
UM, THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT, THERE'S A, AT THE FIRST MEETING WE HAD A, A GROUP COME THAT HAD A, UM, A HEAD SIZE OF 700 CATTLE IN GIN COUNTY.
UM, THEY WERE AT OUR FIRST MEETING AT THE FIRE STATION SIX.
UM, I'M FRANKIE HOW MANY DO YOU HAVE? HOW, WHAT'S YOUR HEAD OF CATTLE? 150, 150? UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING THERE, THERE ARE BIGGER FARMS, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF MORE BOUTIQUE FARMS THAT HAVE FIVE TO 10 CATTLE THAT THEY'RE JUST LOOKING TO DO MAYBE ONE OR TWO A YEAR.
UM, THERE'S PROBABLY MORE OF THOSE AROUND THE COUNTY THAT THERE ARE THE BIG GIANT ONES, BUT THERE'S A WELL MIX OF BOTH.
AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPANSION PLANS.
WE'RE MORE OF A NICHE SMALL PROCESSOR WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE OUR COUNTY HERE.
AND THEN, UM, AFTER WE TAKE CARE OF OUR PEOPLE, WE'LL BE GOING TO, UM, EXTENDING THAT OUT TO SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
SO, SO THE HG REVENUE MODEL IS SIMPLY PROCESSING, IF I'M, OUR, OUR TARGET MARKET RIGHT NOW IS JUST TO, TO FARMERS.
SO YOU'RE NOT A CATTLE OWNER, YOU'RE NOT, I DON'T HAVE MY OWN CATTLE.
I'M NOT SELLING MY OWN CATTLE.
I'M NOT BUYING CATTLE FROM OTHER FARMERS AND TAKING TO MY PROCESSOR AND DOING IT, YOU'RE, I'M BUYING BUSINESS MODEL RIGHT NOW IS TO SERVE THE FARMERS AND THEN THEY CAN DO WHAT THE, WHAT THEY SEE FIT WITH THEIR, THEIR PRODUCT AT THE END.
UM, THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE GIVEN THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS JUST APPROVED MM, WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO DO A LARGER FACILITY? GIVEN THE DEMAND THAT I'VE HEARD OF AND, AND, AND I JUST, THE THANK YOU FOR WALKING US THROUGH THE LAYOUT, THE EFFICIENCY OF THAT LAYOUT SEEMS TO DICTATE THAT OR SEEMS TO TELL ME THAT YOU, YOU COULD DOUBLE IT UP VERY EASILY.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS.
WELL, FOR SOMEONE THAT'S NEVER RUN A SLAUGHTER HOUSE PERSONALLY, UM, AND SOMEONE WHO'S STARTING HIS FIRST BIG BUSINESS, I WOULD RATHER START SMALL, BE GOOD AT MY CRAFT.
AND THEN IF THE DEMAND IS THERE, THEN YOU COULD HAVE TALKS ABOUT EXPANDING.
BUT FOR MOST OF OUR COMPETITORS AROUND THE STATE, MOST PEOPLE ARE DOING 50 TO 75 HEAD A WEEK JUST LIKE I AM.
THERE'S NOT MANY, IT'S NOT TEXAS, IT'S NOT KANSAS.
THERE'S NOT THESE BIG GIANT FACILITIES WHERE YOU'RE DOING 225 A WEEK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, WE HAVE IT BUILT RIGHT NOW.
I THINK IF YOU WANTED TO, TO EXPAND IT, THERE'D BE ALL SORTS OF MORE COST AND INFRASTRUCTURE AS FAR AS THE SEPTIC DRAIN FIELD.
AND THE WAY WE ARE STRUCTURING IT AND THE DRAIN FIELD WE'RE BUILDING IS TO DO THIS MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF 75.
I DO, I DO APPRECIATE THE PROVE IT
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ELEMENT OF THAT TYPE OF THINKING, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO I'D LIKE TO GO BACK AND CLARIFY, UH, THE PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING WILLING TO DO THAT.
WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN HERE? RIGHT.
SO PHASE ONE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALL THAT IS, IS LOOKING AT WHAT EXISTS TODAY.
AND THEN USUALLY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT PHASE TWO IS ONLY DONE BY TAKING SOIL AND WATER SAMPLES IF SOMETHING IS FOUND OR SOME INDICATION THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM.
SO WHAT ARE WE COMMITTING TO HERE, AND WHAT ARE WE PLANNING TO DO? I JUST, I WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
WELL, I, I'VE, I'VE BEEN APPROACHED AND ASKED THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD TO DO, NOT ONLY FOR THE COUNTY, BUT FOR MYSELF, IF I EVER WAS TO WANNA SELL THE PROPERTY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO DO.
PROTECT YOU AS WELL TO YEAH, EXACTLY.
UM, SO I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING IT.
UM, UH, MY GOAL IS IT WAS JUST TO BE A CONDITION, UM, THAT WE GET DONE BEFORE THE, THE DEVELOPMENT ACTUALLY STARTS HAPPENING AND THE CONSTRUCTION TAKES PLACE.
UM, AND ANDREW, AGAIN CAN SHARE MORE LIGHT ON HOW THAT ACTUALLY WORKS.
SO YOU ARE COMMITTING TO A PHASE ONE AND A PHASE TWO? YES, MA'AM.
THAT WE WOULD PLAN ON TAKING, SO TO PROVE WHAT'S THERE TODAY, WE NEED TO TAKE SOME SOIL SAMPLES AND WATER SAMPLES AND TAKE 'EM TO A LAB AND HAVE 'EM ANALYZED SO WE HAVE A BASELINE TO LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT.
UH, THEN NOW I'M GONNA SWITCH ON YOU TO TRAFFIC.
SO, UM, SO WE'RE SAYING 75 A WEEK, MAX, I'M SORRY, NOT TRAFFIC CA 75 ANIMALS A WEEK.
I WRITE THAT DOWN THAT THAT'S THE MAXIMUM CAPACITY.
SO BACK ON ONE OF YOUR EARLIER SLIDES, I THOUGHT YOU WERE SHOWING LIKE 50 VEHICLE TRIPS A WEEK.
SO BASICALLY, SO HELP ME CONNECT, WE FACTORED IN EIGHT EMPLOYEES, SO THAT'S, THEY'RE COME AND GO.
THAT'S 16 TRIPS A DAY WITH JUST THE, THE EMPLOYEES, RIGHT.
IF YOU'RE DOING AT MAX, IF SAY YOU'RE DOING 75 UH, CATTLE A WEEK, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE ON AVERAGE ABOUT 15 DROPOFFS A DAY, WHICH WOULD BE, IF EVERYONE'S BRINGING ONE COW, THEN THAT'S 15 COWS, TWO BACK AND FORTH, 30 TRIPS.
AND SO THE 16 PLUS 30, THAT'S ABOUT, UH, 46 TRIPS ON, THAT'S IF YOU'RE DOING MAXIMUM CAPACITY AT 75 A WEEK, WHICH WE DON'T PLAN ON DOING.
AND, AND THE, BUT SOME OF THOSE WOULD NOT BE NECESSARILY BRINGING THE ANIMALS, WHETHER THEY'RE COMING BACK AND PICKING UP THE MEAT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE EMPLOYEES AREN'T GONNA BE HAVING TRAILERS OR, UM, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO ALL THOSE TRIPS ARE NOT NECESSARILY, UM, BRINGING ANIMALS? NO, MA'AM.
SO WE, WE LOOKED AT IT A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS, AND I'VE LOOKED AT IT ON HIS NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES AND WHAT HE'S TELLING ME FOR TRIPS.
ALSO LOOKED AT THE IT MANUAL, WHICH IS A MANUAL IN WHICH TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TRY TO DETERMINE TRAFFIC COUNTS.
AND THERE WASN'T A SPECIFIC ONE EXACTLY FOR THIS USE.
SO I LOOKED AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT USES.
I LOOKED AT A WAREHOUSE LIGHT, INDUSTRIAL ACREAGE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES.
WE, WE, WE RAN AT A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS, AND WE WERE SOMEWHERE IN THAT 50 TO 60 TRIP AVERAGE NUMBER PER DAY BASED ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, WAYS OF LOOKING AT AND DETERMINE THAT TRAFFIC COUNT.
APPRECIATE IT, MS. LES COLETTE'S QUESTION AND TRAFFIC AND, AND YOUR RESPONSES MADE ME, AND, AND I WENT BACK TO YOUR APPLICATION.
IT SAID HOURS OF OPERATION, I THINK EIGHT 30 TO FIVE.
UM, BUT THERE YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
AND AGAIN, I GO, I LOOK AT WHAT THE PROFFERS SAY.
I MEAN, THE, THE CONDITIONS, UH, CONDITIONS SAY THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT HOURS OF ACTIVITY.
SHOULD WE BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS A COUNTY? I MEAN, WHAT IF, WHAT IF YOU EXPAND VIA MORE HOURS OF OPERATION? IS THERE NOISE IF YOU WERE TO RAMP THIS UP AT MIDNIGHT AND RUN THIS THING AT MIDNIGHT? NO, I, I DON'T THINK THERE WOULD BE A SITUATION LIKE THAT.
I THINK WE WOULD DO OUR BEST JOB TO HAVE, UH, DELIVERIES BEFORE SCHOOL HOURS AND PICKUPS AFTER SCHOOL HOURS.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, BEFORE 8:00 AM AND THAT WOULD BE A DROP OFF THE HOURS OF ACTUAL OPERATION WHEN YOU'RE TAKING THE CATTLE IN THERE, PROCESSING.
AND THEN WE WOULD SCHEDULE OUR PICKUPS TO BE, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY AFTER, AFTER SCHOOL HOURS.
SO YOUR NORMAL OPERATION HOURS ARE EIGHT TO SIX MONDAY THROUGH
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FRIDAY.AND WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PUT A CONDITION, HOURS OF OPERATION, MEANING WHEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN DRIVE IN AND DROP OFF? AND WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO, I'M NOT HOLDING YOU TO EIGHT TO SIX, I'M JUST WONDERING AGAIN, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT MIGHT BE NICE TO HAVE SOME COMMITMENT IN HERE THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA HAVE TO EXPAND, SO LET'S FIRE, FIRE THIS THING UP AT 2:00 AM YEAH, NO, IT WOULDN'T BE FIRING UP AT 2:00 AM I THINK THERE ARE SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE ANIMALS BEING DROPPED OFF IN THE EVENING AROUND SIX, SO THAT THEY HAVE THE NIGHT TO CALM DOWN, UH, DRINK WATER, AND THEN THE FIRST THING IN THE MORNING, THEY'RE THERE ON SITE AND READY TO GO.
SO I SAW THERE WAS, UH, KIND OF SOME BACK AND FORTH ABOUT THE 50 ANIMALS OVERNIGHT.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WHEN THEY WROTE THE, WHEN THE COUNTY WROTE THE ORDINANCE, IT WAS NO ANIMALS OVER, NO ANIMALS ON SITE OVER 24 HOURS, MEANING WE WOULDN'T HAVE, THEY WOULD MAYBE GET THERE THE EVENING BEFORE AND THEN BE PROCESSED IN THE MORNING.
THEY WOULDN'T BE THE EVENING BEFORE STAY TWO DAYS.
EVEN IF YOU'RE UNDER THAT 50 THRESHOLD, IT WOULD ALL BE DONE WITHIN A 24 HOUR PERIOD.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE INVITING ME TO ASK A COUPLE OF REQUESTS, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU, BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE ORDINANCE.
SO IT'S, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO PUT A CONDITION ON THIS THAT SAYS HOURS OF OPERATION, 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM MEANING, YOU KNOW, NO TRAFFIC OUTSIDE OF THOSE HOURS.
UM, AND, AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER PART, WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, THE, UH, 24 HOUR, NO, NO ANIMALS KEPT MORE THAN ON, ON SITE MORE THAN 24 HOURS.
I WAS WORKING UNDER THE 24 HOUR ASSUMPTION.
SO IF THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY HOW IT WAS WRITTEN, THAT'S MY FAULT.
I THOUGHT THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE ROUGH DRAFT OR SOMETHING, BUT, UM, YEAH, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO AGREE TO THAT.
SO, SO IN MY UNDERSTANDING, THE ANIMALS ARE BROUGHT TO THE FACILITY, THEY'RE DROPPED OFF AND THEY NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME TO, TO REST, TO CALM DOWN BEFORE YOU PROCESS 'EM.
SO, BUT THAT CAN BE DONE WITHIN RIGHT.
LONGER, WITHIN 24 HOUR PERIOD OF TIME THAT YOU WOULD BE KEEPING 'EM MOTORCYCLE.
I, I DO WANT TO CAUTION YOU ALL JUST ON THAT FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT I DID LEARN TODAY AS WELL, THAT, UM, YOU CANNOT PROCESS CATTLE AND UM, PIGS IN THE SAME DAY.
SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO COME AND BRING A PIG THAT MAY POTENTIALLY NECESSITATE MORE THAN 24 HOURS AGAIN.
SO JUST FROM A U S D A COMPLIANCE STANDPOINT.
SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THOSE DISCUSSIONS, THAT'S WHERE THE THRESHOLD OF 50 OVERNIGHT, GOD, YOU KNOW, NO ONE'S INTENT THAT ANIMALS WOULD STAY THERE FOR WEEKS.
IDEALLY, THEY COME IN THE EVENING, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS, THEY COME IN THE EVENING, REST OVERNIGHT, AND THEN ARE PROCESSED IN THE MORNING.
ONE IS PROCESSED AT A TIME AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL KILL, AND THEN THEY'RE PROCESSED THROUGHOUT THE MODULE.
SO ONCE THAT INITIAL ROOM WHERE THEIR SLAUGHTER IS CLEAN, THEN THEY ACTUALLY MOVE THROUGH AND THEN THEY CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ANIMAL, BUT THEY DON'T CROSS-CONTAMINATE THE MEATS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS BASED ON DEMAND, YOU KNOW, SO IT MAY BE THAT THEY START WITH, YOU KNOW, FIVEHEAD OF CATTLE AND THEN 10 PIGS SHOW UP.
SO LET'S LET, LET'S LET THE APPLICANT DEAL WITH THAT.
UM, WELL, BASICALLY YOU WOULD STRUCTURE YOUR SOLD DATES THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE CATTLE AND PIGS DROPPED OFF ON THE SAME DAY.
MOSTLY SOLAR HOUSES, THE WAY THEY WORK IS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE MOST OF THEM, IF NOT ALL.
SO IF YOU'RE DOING 10 THE NEXT DAY, YOU GET 10 THERE THE NIGHT BEFORE, DO ALL 10 IN THE MORNING AND THEN SPEND THE REST OF THE DAY, THE REST OF THE NEXT TWO DAYS ACTUALLY PROCESSING.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE 10 PROCESS, YOU'D HAVE 10 GO THROUGH THE HARVEST MODULE, AND THEN THEY WOULD BE, UM, CUT AND WRAPPED AND HUNG UNTIL ALL 10 WERE DEAD.
AND THAT WAY YOU DON'T HAVE THE U S D A INSPECTOR THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THE WEEK.
IT'S, IT'S AN EFFORT TO KEEP THEM NOT THERE.
EVERY MOST U S D INSPECTORS THAT ARE ON SITE TWO TO THREE DAYS A WEEK.
AND THEN THE REST OF THOSE DAYS ARE SPENT ACTUALLY PROCESSING, PUTTING 'EM IN A SELECT CUTS, UH, PACKAGED AND THEN PICKED UP.
WELL, I'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT.
THE HOURS OF OPERATION IS SOMETHING I HOPE YOU'LL, YOU'LL ADDRESS.
I DON'T WANT TO ASK YOU TO PUT CONDITIONS ON SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA IMPAIR YOUR ABILITY TO RUN YOUR BUSINESS, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU NEED TO, BUT I JUST, I THINK LEAVING ANIMALS IN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME SEEMS TO BE A COMMUNITY CONCERN.
SEEMS, I MEAN, I, YOU CAN'T KEEP MORE THAN 50.
IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS IF THEY'RE SITTING THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, WEEKS.
BUT, UM, YOU CAN'T FEED 'EM ON SITE, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE 'EM, THEY CAN ONLY DRINK WATER.
THEY'RE, I DON'T ANTICIPATE A COW GETTING DROPPED OFF ON A MONDAY MORNING AND NOT GETTING TAKEN CARE OF UNTIL FRIDAY.
WELL, JUST, AGAIN, I'M MORE FOCUSED ON THE HOURS OF OP OPERATION.
UM, IF YOU, IF YOU'LL ADDRESS THAT CONCERN AND, AND, UM, I THINK, I GUESS YOU SAID IT'S A PRACTICAL MATTER, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO TOO MUCH WITH THE ANIMALS BEING THERE A LONG TIME.
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THANK YOU.ANY QUESTIONS? ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, MR. PETERSON.
JUST A COUPLE OF STANDARD QUESTIONS.
PROBABLY NOT AS APPLICABLE HERE AS IN OTHER CASES, BUT, UM, ESTIMATED CAPITAL INVESTMENT, NUMBER OF JOBS, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO IT WILL BE EIGHT EMPLOYEES NON, INCLUDING MYSELF.
UM, BASICALLY EACH ONE OF THOSE, UH, MODULE UNITS, YOU WANNA HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES IN, THERE'S FOUR OF THEM, SO TWO PER ROOM.
UM, THE ACTUAL, UM, I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS RIGHT HERE IN MY NOTES, UM, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
BUT AS FAR AS THE INVESTMENT, IT'S GONNA BE A PRIVATE INVESTMENT DONE THROUGHOUT, UH, A SELECT GROUP OF INVESTORS, UM, THAT ARE ALL INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT IN DIFFERENT WAYS.
I'VE GOT AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF PEOPLE, NOT ONLY FRIA, THE PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANT GROUP, BUT OTHERS THAT ARE IN THE INDUSTRY THAT ARE GONNA BE HELPING US ALONG THE WAY.
UM, THE, UH, HOW ABOUT THE AVAILABILITY OF WORKERS IN THIS INDUSTRY? IS THERE, THAT'S, THAT'S PLENTY OF WORKERS OR IS THERE WORKER SHORTAGE OR WHAT, HOW DOES, UH, I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE, I'M NOT GONNA LIE.
UM, FINDING THE RIGHT EMPLOYEES.
LUCKILY WE HAVE SOME TIME TO, TO WORK ON THAT.
UH, FREE DOES HAVE CONNECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND THEY ACTUALLY, ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT STAFF, UM, IS ACTUALLY HELPING YOU AT LEAST GET THE WORD OUT AROUND THE COUNTY, UH, HELPING YOU KIND OF MARKET, FINDING EMPLOYEES.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE BUILDING, IN MY OPINION, THE NICEST AND MOST STATE OF THE ART FACILITY IN THE STATE.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT PLACE TO WORK AT AND PEOPLE, UM, WE WANNA BE HIRING PEOPLE FROM GOLAND THAT, UM, THAT WANT TO COME DO THIS.
THE LOCAL SCHOOL SYSTEM DOES HAVE A CTE CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION PROGRAM AS WELL.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, IN FORMING SOME SORT OF PARTNERSHIP WITH TO HELP WITH INTERNSHIPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, UM, TO HELP ADVANCE THIS CUZ THERE'S DEFINITELY IN A LOT OF INDUSTRIES AND EMPLOYEE SHORTAGE.
OKAY, FOLKS, ARE WE COMFORTABLE MOVE RIGHT INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING OR DO WE NEED FIVE MINUTES? OKAY, GREAT.
UM, RIGHT, SO FOLKS, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS, THIS HEARING A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
YOU CAN FEEL FREE TO SEE THAT WE'RE GONNA DO THIS A LITTLE EASIER.
IT'S GETTING, IT'S STARTING TO GET LATE.
UM, WHAT WE'RE GONNA ASK IS, IS IF YOU, IF YOU PLAN ON SPEAKING, JUST MAKE YOUR WAY DOWN TO THE FRONT ROW, UM, AS PEOPLE ARE SPEAKING.
AND THAT WAY JUST, AND KEEP FILLING IN.
THAT WAY, YOU'LL SAVE THE TIME FROM PEOPLE GETTING UP OVER EACH OTHER.
AND THAT WAY I CAN KIND OF SEE WHEN WE NEED TO TAKE BREAKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, WHEN YOU COME UP, UH, PLEASE, UH, KEEP IN MIND, UM, IF, IF SOMEBODY'S ALREADY BROUGHT UP THE CONCERN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REHASH THE CONCERN.
IT'S NOT LIKE HOW MANY PEOPLE SAY THIS OR THAT.
UM, WE, WE'LL GET THE PICTURE.
YOU CAN COME UP, YOU CAN SIMPLY COME UP AND SAY YOU'RE FOR OR AGAINST IT.
UM, AND, UM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AND WE WILL WE'LL, UH, HEAR FROM EVERYBODY.
RIGHT? SO I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
PLEASE COME UP AND GIVE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, PLEASE MAKE A WAY TO THE FRONT ROW AND THEN, UH, WE'LL, MR. KELLENBERGER, YOU WANNA BE FIRST? SURE, GO AHEAD.
MARK KELLENBERGER 48 60 O FREDERICKSBURG GRO MINERAL, VIRGINIA, 23,117.
UH, THE ISSUE ABOUT THE TRUCKS I KEEP ON HEARING, IT'S ONLY GONNA BE SMALL VEHICLES AND THAT'S, THAT IS SATISFACTORY TO ME.
BUT REMOVING THE WASTE WITH VALLEY PROTEIN AND REMOVING THE DUMPSTER WASTE, THESE ARE GONNA BE BIGGER VEHICLES, I TAKE IT.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE SMALL VEHICLES THAT ARE GONNA BE PUMPING THIS STUFF OUT AND REMOVING IT.
IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE A, A, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE GROSS WEIGHT OF THE VEHICLE IS AND WHAT IMPACT IT'S GONNA HAVE FOR THE ROAD.
ANOTHER CONCERN IS, IN THIS PART OF THE COUNTY, WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH POWER OUTAGES QUITE OFTEN.
A PRIME EXAMPLE IS IN JANUARY WHEN WE HAD THE SNOWSTORM, WE WERE WITHOUT POWER FOR APPROXIMATELY EIGHT DAYS.
NOW IN A FACILITY LIKE THIS, ARE THEY GONNA HAVE POWER, THEIR OWN POWER, OR ARE THEY GONNA BE, UH, USING THE POWER FROM, UH, RAPHE AND ELECTRIC CO-OP? IS THE POWER IN PLACE AND IS IT GONNA AFFECT THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA WITH POWER ISSUES? BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THE, THERE'S SMALL POLES AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME, AND I'VE BEEN OUT HERE FOR 30 YEARS AND IT'S HAPPENED ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS, ICE STORMS, SNOW STORMS, UH, TROPICAL STORMS WHERE WE'VE LOST POWER.
SO WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE PLAN WITH THE POWER ISSUE IN THE EVENT WE
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LOSE POWER? OKAY.ROBIN ANDERSON, 42 80 HAYSVILLE FARM ROAD.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT WE'RE MISSING HERE IS US.
WE LIVE THERE AND I THINK IF ANYBODY HERE HAD IT IN THEIR YARD OR THEIR BACKYARD, YOU'D THINK TWICE.
SO I JUST WANT EVERYBODY TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND ABOUT THIS.
THE HOMES BORDERING PROBABLY ARE IN VALUE.
ANYWHERE FROM 300,000 TO 2.3 MILLION THAT BUMPS UP TO THIS.
THE 2.3 MILLION HOME WENT UP FOR SALE.
DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE REASON WHY, BUT I UNDERSTAND THEY ALREADY HAVE A CONTRACT ON IT.
SO I WORRY ABOUT THE FACT THAT THAT'S SETTING THE PRECEDENTS OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO OUR HOMES.
I'LL BE RETIRING IN A COUPLE OF YEARS.
I MAY HAVE TO GO TO A NURSING HOME ONE DAY.
WHAT HAPPENS ABOUT THE LIABILITY FOR ME IF MY HOME IS DEVALUED? AND THEN THAT IS EVERYTHING I'VE EVER WORKED FOR SINGLE MOM MOST OF MY LIFE.
AND I PUT EVERYTHING IN MY HOME.
I PUT MY HOUSE ON THE MARKET THINKING I WAS GONNA MOVE DOWN AT THE RIVER.
ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, WELL, NOT SIX MONTHS AGO, FOUR, SIX MONTHS, TWO YEARS AGO, PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT A PERFECTLY GRAVELED ROAD COMING INTO MY HOME, FROM, FROM THE ROAD.
WHAT ARE THEY GONNA SAY ABOUT A SLAUGHTERHOUSE? IT'S GONNA, IT'S GONNA AFFECT THE VALUE OF THE HOME.
UM, WE DO HAVE HEALTH CONCERNS, WHICH I WON'T REHASH.
AND I'VE SAID THE DEVALUATION.
AND, UM, I THINK THE PROBLEM IS, IS WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE SALEABILITY OF OUR HOMES? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GUC COUNTY DOESN'T HAVE ANY NUMBERS THAT THEY CAN GO AGAINST BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ANYTHING LIKE THIS HERE ALREADY.
SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S NOT BEEN ADDRESSED IS THE MOBILE, UH, THAT FRI HAS AS WELL, THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY OUR CONCERNS.
IT WOULD TAKE AWAY THE ROAD PROBLEM.
IT WOULD TAKE A ROAD ANY AWAY, ANY HEALTH CONCERNS.
IT WOULD TAKE AWAY, UH, ANY OF THE WATER PROBLEMS. AND IT WOULD TAKE AWAY US FROM DEVALUING OUR HOMES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY COULDN'T GO TO THE FARMERS.
IT WOULD BE LESS STRESS ON THE ANIMALS, AND THEN IT WOULD TAKE AWAY ALL THE PROBLEMS OF WHAT WE'RE SITTING HERE ABOUT AND TALKING TO YOU ABOUT.
I LIVE AT 15,305 ROCKFORD ROAD, MONT HILLIER, VIRGINIA.
UM, AS I STATED BEFORE, I'M THE OWNER OF BELMONT BUTCHER IN RICHMOND, VIRGINIA, A RETAIL ARTISAN BUTCHER SHOP.
AND THROUGH THAT EVOLUTION AS A BUTCHER, I'VE ALSO BECOME A HOMESTEADER AND A FARMER.
AND I GROW MY OWN, UM, LAMB AND GOATS.
AND MOST RECENTLY I'VE BEEN CERTIFIED THROUGH VIRGINIA, UM, VIRGINIA STATE UNIVERSITY TO USE THEIR MOBILE PROCESSING UNIT, UM, TO WHICH PAUL IS GONNA ADDRESS A LOT OF THE MOBILE PROCESSING UNIT ELEMENTS.
SO I ACTUALLY DO SLAUGHTER ON THE MOBILE PROCESSING UNIT UNDER U S D A AND SELL AT MY BUTCHER SHOP.
UM, I'M ALSO ON HAYES'S ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND I JUST WANNA SAY HE HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND A LOT OF EFFORT RESEARCHING WHAT HE'S DOING, WORKING WITH PROFESSIONALS, UM, WHERE HE DOESN'T HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE.
AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THIS.
AND AS A RURAL RESIDENT, I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS, BUT IF THEY ACTUALLY HAVE EVER BEEN TO A SMALL MICRO FACILITY, I THINK A LOT OF THEIR CONCERNS WOULD BE ALLEVIATED.
UM, I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT BEING ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME.
UH, 39 24 PINEY ROAD, RICHMOND.
UH, I STARTED IN THE MEAT PROCESSING INDUSTRY IN 2011.
SINCE THEN, I'VE WORKED IN MEAT DEPARTMENTS AND CHAIN GROCERY STORES.
UH, SMALL WHOLE ANIMAL BUTCHER SHOPS AS A SALES REP FOR VIRGINIA'S LARGEST SLAUGHTERHOUSE, WHICH IS SEVEN HILLS IN LYNCHBURG.
UM, AS WELL AS THE OPENING MANAGER FOR HATCH BUTY, WHICH WAS A U S D A INSPECTED, UH, SECONDARY PROCESSOR IN THE CITY OF RICHMOND, FOCUSING ON VALUE ADDED PRODUCTS SUCH AS BACON SAUSAGE, UH, BUT ALSO DOING WHOLE ANIMAL SLAUGHTERING OR WHOLE ANIMAL BUTCHER, LACKING THE SLAUGHTER COMPONENT, UM, WHICH IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HELD THAT FACILITY BACK.
UM, SO HAVING SOMEONE WILLING TO VEST THEIR TIME AND MONEY INTO A SLAUGHTERHOUSE IN THE AREAS.
UM, A BONUS I THINK FOR THE COMMUNITY AND FOR MYSELF.
UM, I READ SOME CONCERN ON, ON THE ABC ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT, I BELIEVE RECENTLY, UM, AS WELL AS HEARD SOME OTHER CONCERNS.
AND THEN HERE TONIGHT, UH, ABOUT SLAUGHTER HOUSES LOCATED NEAR HOUSING.
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ALREADY IN VIRGINIA, UH, ONE OF THEM BEING IN THE CITY OF LYNCHBURG PROPER, UH, AT SEVEN HILLS, ALSO T AND E MEETS IN HARRISONBURG AND DONALD'S MEAT PROCESSING IN LEXINGTON, ALL WITHIN EYESIGHT OF HOUSING.UM, THE ARTICLE ALSO MENTIONED CONCERNS OF CONTAMINATED GROUNDWATER.
UM, HAVING PERSONALLY DEALT WITH U S D A AND V A S, UH, THEY HAVE VERY STRICT REGULATIONS LAID OUT IN TITLE IX CODE OF THE FEDERAL REGULATIONS, VOLUME TWO, SECTION FOUR 16.
UM, THEY, THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT.
UM, THEY'RE LITERALLY THERE LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER EVERY DAY HERE PROCESSING, UM, ANYTIME YOU'RE SLAUGHTERING, CUTTING, PACKING, WRAPPING, OR LABELING A U S D A STAFF MEMBER HAS TO BE THERE OR HAS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE FACILITY.
UM, SO CONCERNS ABOUT STARTING UP AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING WOULDN'T HAPPEN.
UM, IT'S IN THE GRAIN OF INSPECTION FOR USD INSPECTION, UH, WE WERE SEVEN 30 TO THREE 30.
UM, IF WE COULD GET WRITTEN UP, SHUT DOWN, LOSE OUR GRAIN OF INSPECTION, NOT BE ABLE TO OPERATE IF WE GO FIVE MINUTES OVER.
I'M ALSO A PART OWNER OF A BURGER RESTAURANT IN RICHMOND.
THAT EX SOURCE IS EXCLUSIVELY GRASS FED VIRGINIA BEEF.
UM, A PLACE LIKE THIS JUST UP THE ROAD WOULD BE HUGE.
UH, YOU KNOW, LOWERING COSTS, ALLOWING MORE RESTAURANTS TO SUPPORT THAT SORT OF, UH, INDUSTRY.
I HAD TO PROVIDE TWO WATER SAMPLES WITHIN ONE YEAR TO THE U S D A.
UH, AND THAT WAS ON RICHMOND CITY WATER, WHICH MAYBE IS WHY THEY WANTED TO.
UM, BUT
LIKE THE V DACS EMPLOYEES I DEALT WITH ARE VERY SHARP.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF HE DID CONTAMINATE THE GROUNDWATER, IT'S GONNA HURT HIMSELF FIRST CUZ HE'S ALSO OFF OF WELL IN THAT AREA.
UM, SO I, I FULLY SUPPORT THIS.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER WORKING THERE.
DANA DRAPER, 48 17 OLD FORSBURG ROAD.
I'VE, UM, SPOKEN TO, UM, SUSAN A COUPLE TIMES.
UH, I KNOW, UM, THE FARMERS NEED THIS FACILITY.
UM, IT'S VERY OBVIOUS AND IT SOUNDS LIKE MR. GOTWELLS PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO MAKING HIS FACILITY AS FRIENDLY AND ENVIRONMENTALLY, UM, RESPECTABLE AS POSSIBLE.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, UM, AND I MENTIONED THIS AT THE PLANNING, UM, UM, COMMISSION MEETING WHERE HE WANTS TO PUT IT GRANTED IS THERE'S AN INDUSTRIAL PARK ACROSS THE STREET, BUT IT'S AT THE ENTRANCE TO A RESIDENTIAL PRIMARILY, UM, SECTION.
A LITTLE, LITTLE, UM, SEGMENT OF GUCCI AND COUNTY THAT'S DIVORCED FROM EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND WE ARE, AS A COMMUNITY, CONCERNED ABOUT OUR PROPERTY VALUE, UM, LONG TERM.
UM, EXPANSION POTENTIALS ARE THERE.
YOU'RE GIVING HIM A CUP WITH 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
HE HAS A, UM, 2,400 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY, IT SOUNDS LIKE.
SO HE COULD, UM, GROW, UM, POTENTIALLY FOUR TIMES AND STILL, UM, BE IN HIS CUP IF YOU PERMIT IT.
HE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A NEW C P YES, AS I SAID, IF YOU PERMIT IT, BUT IN HIS CUP, THERE IS THAT POTENTIAL.
UM, ALSO, SO I, I SPECIALIZE IN THE EQUESTRIAN WORLD AND I WORK A LOT, UM, DEVELOPING EQUESTRIAN, UM, SMALL FARMS, RIDING ARENAS, UM, UM, PADDOCKS AND, UM, UH, CONTAINMENTS FOR HORSES AND, UM, OUTSIDE STORAGE.
UM, LOT WAS, UM, PRESENTED AT, AT THE PLANTING COMMISSION AS BEING A ROCK DUST BASED FACILITY.
AND ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMMISSIONERS, UM, ASKED ABOUT IT, UM, NOT BEING, UM, OR SUGGESTED IT SHOULD BE CONCRETE IN QUESTION THAT I PUT IN A LOT OF ROCK DUST, UM, PADDOCKS AROUND BARNS.
AND THEY ARE VERY LIMITED USE, UM, FOUR TO SIX HORSES, 50 BY 50 BOX, EIGHT INCHES THICK.
AND IN ABOUT A THREE TO FOUR YEAR PERIOD, THE SOLID MANURE OF COMING FROM A HORSE AND THE URINE COMING FROM A HORSE IS SATURATED.
IT'S SO BAD THAT I USUALLY HAVE TO COME BACK AND DIG IT UP OR CAP IT WITH MORE BECAUSE THE AMMONIA SMELL IS SO STRONG THEY CAN'T HARDLY BE AROUND THE BARN.
UM, THAT DOESN'T EVEN COMPARE TO WHAT, WHAT IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BE USED AT THIS FACILITY, EVEN ON A SMALL STANDPOINT.
HI, UM, MY NAME IS MICHAEL JONES.
MY SON JOSHUA AND I ARE DEVELOPING 21 ACRES OFF OLD, UH, OR, UH, HAYSVILLE FARM ROAD.
AND YOU KNOW, THE, UH, WE'VE ALREADY PUT A COUPLE OF HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS INTO
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DEVELOPMENT.WE'RE GONNA GROW CHRISTMAS TREES AND POSSIBLY ALPACA'S.
UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE STORM ORDER USE, WHICH I HAVEN'T HEARD.
IS THE POND GONNA BE LINED OR THEY'RE GONNA USE VARIATION, UH, AS A FORM OF, UH, REMEDIATION AND WHAT HAPPENS FOR US IF THE ODOR DOES BECOME AN ISSUE, HOW IS THAT GONNA BE REMEDI? UH, MY BACKGROUND IN THE INDUSTRY IS WORKING WITH, UH, MEAT PROCESSORS, RECRUITING, STAFFING FOR ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERS AND SCIENTISTS.
SO, UH, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN TO A NUMBER OF LARGER, MUCH LARGER FACILITIES AND THIS ACTUALLY SOUNDS VERY NICE, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S SOMETHING IN PLACE TO PROTECT US SHOULD THINGS GET OUT OF CONTROL, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT MR. GWA COMMITS TO THAT 75 HEAD A WEEK.
BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE AN OUTSTANDING PLAN.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S NOT GONNA EVER GET ANY BIGGER.
AND FOLKS, IF YOU COULD REFRAIN FROM SHOUTING OUT DURING THE MEETING, THAT WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
THANK YOU YOU, DEBBIE GRIFFITH, 42 85 HAYDENVILLE FARMS ROAD.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, SUSAN, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL MY CONCERNS AND, AND FOLLOWING UP.
UM, COUPLE THINGS, AND I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY.
UM, AGAIN, THE ROAD, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOME STUDIES OUT THERE TO SEE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S SET FOR 55, I'M TELLING YOU THEY'RE NOT GOING 55 AND SOME OF THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY WHERE THAT, THAT WATER IS BETWEEN THE TWO ENTRANCES FOR THE, UH, INDUSTRIAL PARK, IT'S A VERY BIG DROP OFF.
I REALLY WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY TO GET OUT THERE AND DO SOME ROAD STUDIES.
AND AGAIN, COMING OFF OF THE ENTRANCE ON 64 HEADING WESTBOUND AND MAKING THAT RIGHT HAND TURN ONTO OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, THAT IS A HALFWAY BLIND TURN.
AND IF VEHICLES ARE COMING OFF OF THERE, MY HUSBAND AND I HAD A 38 FOOT RV.
I CAN TELL YOU, PULLING SOME SORT OF EQUIPMENT BEHIND YOUR VEHICLE WILL CERTAINLY AFFECT YOUR SAFETY ON THAT ROAD.
SECONDLY, PLEASE TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION GLAND AND LOUISA COUNTY SCHOOL BUSES BECAUSE THEY PICK UP IN THAT AREA.
RIGHT NOW, GLAND COUNTY PICKS UP ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT SEVEN 10 IN THE MORNING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME THE HIGH SCHOOL PICKS UP.
I KNOW THAT, UM, HIGH SCHOOL DOES DROP OFF ABOUT QUARTER TO FIVE IN THE AFTERNOON.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, I KNOW MR. GOTWALT AND I DO APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS, SIR.
UM, BECAUSE IN ALL THE MEETINGS YOU HAVE BEEN CHANGING YOUR PLAN PLANS A LITTLE BIT.
UM, HE HAS PROPERTY HERE IN GLAND.
HE MENTIONED LAST, LAST MEETING.
WHY NOT JUST ANNEX THIS ONTO HIS OWN PROPERTY? UM, THE COUNTY, HE DID SAY AT THE FIRST MEETING AT THE FIREHOUSE, THE COUNTY DID HELP HIM IDENTIFY THIS LOCATION.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS ASKING BEFORE, BUT THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.
THIS SYSTEM, EACH UNIT CAN EXPAND AND BY ADDING ANOTHER MODULE PIECE ON THERE TO EACH OF THE SECTIONS, WE'LL EXPAND IT BY ANOTHER 75 HEAD THAT THEY CAN PROCESS.
SO WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY EXPANDING, YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOUR EXPANSIONS.
EACH EXPANSION HANDLES 75 ANIMALS, SO THAT COULD BE A TOTAL OF 300 TOTAL ANIMALS AT THAT RATE OF 1200 GALLONS PER DAY.
EACH ROOM HAS TO BE CLEANED AS THE ANIMAL MOVES THROUGH.
ADDITIONALLY, AND I SEE THIS, A ACIDIC ACID WITH THE VINEGAR.
WHAT PERCENTAGE IS IT? I MEAN, I USE VINEGAR TO GET RID OF THE, UM, GRASS IN MY DRIVEWAYS, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHER PERCENTAGE.
YES, MY NAME IS BARRON CALLEN BERGER, 48 60 OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AND I'D LIKE TO THANK MR. AL FOR HIS FINE PRESENTATION REGARDING THIS ISSUE.
UM, I DO HAVE SOME, UH, QUESTIONS THOUGH.
UM, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT BRINGING IN ONE OR TWO CATTLE ON A GOOSENECK TRAILER.
IS THAT A GUARANTEE OR IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT MAYBE 30 OR 40 OR MORE CATTLE CAN COME ON A ON A 18 WHEELER OR A LOAD OF HOGS ON AN 18 WHEELER? UM, THAT'S, THAT HASN'T REALLY BEEN ADDRESSED FULLY ON HOW WITH LIMITATIONS OF VEHICLES WHICH ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED.
AND ALSO THE FACT THAT, UM, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN KIND OF DISCUSSED ABOUT EVERYTHING COMING OFF OF THE INTERSTATE, WHICH, UM, I AGREE THE BLIND SPOT ON THE INTERSTATE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS, BUT MY OTHER CONCERN IS THAT TRAFFIC COMING
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FROM 5 22, BECAUSE LOUISA COUNTY, GLAND COUNTY, ANYTHING COMING FROM FURTHER AWAY CAN ALWAYS COME FROM THE BACKSIDE IN THE ROAD IS, IS, IS NOT DESIGNED FOR 18 WHEELERS AND LARGE TRUCKS ON A REGULAR BASIS.AND IT'S A MAJOR CONCERN OF MINE.
AND ALSO THE HOURS OF, OF THIS TRAFFIC, WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE ON, AND I KNOW YOU SAID THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, A TIME LIMIT FOR THE PLANT BEING OPEN, BUT WHO'S TO SAY AN 18 WHEELER DOESN'T ROLL DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT AND PARKS ON, ON, ON THE, IN FRONT OF THE PLANT OR IF THE 18 WHEELERS ARE STACKED UP ON THE EXIT RAMP? BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU SEE 18 WHEELERS, THEY'RE PULLED OVER ON EXIT RAMPS.
I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH THE TRAF, THE ENVIRONMENTAL TRAFFIC IMPACT FROM BOTH SIDES, NOT JUST THE INTERSTATE.
I KNOW THAT 43 55 WEST WIND DRIVE, I AM PROBABLY THE SECOND CLOSEST HOUSE TO THIS DEVELOP PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
IF THERE WERE NOT TREES THERE, I COULD PROBABLY HIT A COW WITH ROCK FROM A BROADWAY.
BUT GIVEN THAT I HAD NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PROJECT UNTIL SATURDAY WHEN I HAPPENED TO STUMBLE ACROSS SOMEONE MENTIONING IT ON FACEBOOK, AND I'VE JUST NEVER HAD THIS KIND OF LACK OF COMMUNICATION.
I'VE JUST RECENTLY MOVED THERE FROM MR. PETERSON'S DISTRICT.
AND ANY TIME THERE WAS A ZONING CONCERN, IT WAS ALWAYS WELL SIGNED AND WELL-ADVERTISED WHEN MEETINGS WERE GONNA BE.
I SEE THESE THINGS ABOUT THESE MEETINGS THAT EVERYONE WAS SO IN FAVOR OF THIS, BUT I DON'T THINK THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT THESE MEETINGS.
I WOULD CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN THERE.
AND RIGHT NOW, NOW I'M TOTALLY CONFUSED.
I JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY OPINION IS OF THIS PROJECT.
I'VE NEVER BEEN A PERSON THAT THOUGHT I SHOULD CONTROL WHAT SOMEONE DOES WITH THEIR LAND.
I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT SHOULD BE BETWEEN THEM AND THE COUNTY ZONING.
AND THIS HAS JUST GOT ME TOTALLY CONFUSED.
I'M FEARFUL ABOUT MY WELL WATER.
WE HAVE ONE, WE'RE ON THE SECOND WELL FOR THAT PROPERTY.
IT WAS REDONE BEFORE WE MOVED IN, BUT WE'VE ONLY BEEN THERE FIVE MONTHS.
BUT THE FACT THAT THE ONE WELL DID GO BAD CONCERNS ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD HAPPEN EASILY OR I MEAN, I'M REALLY CLOSE.
THE GROUNDWATER COULD BE CONTAMINATED, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF TIME I'VE HAD TO RESEARCH THIS, I JUST, I REALLY DON'T HAVE A CLUE.
I HAVE NOT HAD ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY EVEN KNOW WHAT I THINK.
AND THIS HAS ME REALLY CONCERNED.
THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN TERRIBLE.
THE PRESENTATION WAS REALLY NICE.
IT SOUNDS WONDERFUL, BUT ONE THING I DID HEAR WAS A LOT OF WHAT WE CALL GOOEY HAPPY WORDS.
I COACH FOURTH AND FIFTH GRADERS IN ROBOTICS AND THEY KNOW THAT IN THEIR PRESENTATIONS, IF THEY CAN PUT IN ANYTHING ABOUT BETTER ENVIRONMENT, FARM TO TABLE, ANY OF THESE BUZZ WORDS, THEY GET MORE POINTS IN THEIR PRESENTATION.
THEY'RE GOING TO STATES ON SATURDAY HAVING WON THEIR LOCAL TOURNAMENTS BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO USE THOSE WORDS.
AND WHEN I HEAR 'EM, I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE EVEN MY FIFTH GRADERS KNOW TO PUT THAT IN THEIR PRESENTATIONS THAT THEY WRITE.
MY NAME'S PAUL BOLTON FROM 1 0 4 11 OLD RIDGE ROAD, HANOVER COUNTY.
UM, AS TANYA HAD MENTIONED, SHE AND I RECENTLY COMPLETED THE VIRGINIA STATE UNIVERSITY, UH, PROGRAM FOR THE MOBILE PROCESSING UNIT.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMENTS ON WHY CAN'T WE JUST USE MOBILE PROCESSOR OR THAT THAT SOMEHOW, UH, IS A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES THAN A, THAN A FIXED PLANT.
IT'S THE SAME RULES, IT'S THE SAME RULES, U S D A, IT'S THE SAME RULES WITH V DACS.
IT'S THE SAME RULES WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE SAME WATER SAMPLING THAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, AS, AS BOBBY MADDOX HAD MENTIONED, UH, WE'RE REQUIRED, WE'RE OBLIGATED TO TAKE MULTIPLE, UH, WATER SAMPLES A YEAR, SEND OUT FOR INDEPENDENT TESTING.
WE HAVE TO REPORT THOSE RESULTS TO U S D A AND TO V D A S.
THEY KEEP A PUBLIC RECORD OF THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN.
UM, SO I, I UNDERSTAND NEIGHBOR CONCERNS.
WHAT IS THIS GONNA DO MEAN TO ME? UM, YOU KNOW, I I THINK MR. AL'S DONE HIS BEST TO, TO ANSWER SPECIFICALLY IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC QUESTION.
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UM, AND I THINK HE'S GOT THE FREE SPIRIT TO, TO BE WILLING TO, TO WORK WITH, WITH HIS NEIGHBORS TO TRY AND, AND COME TO REASONABLE, UM, DELINEATION ON, ON WHAT HE CAN DO AS, AS THE, AS THE BUSINESS OWNER TO ASSUAGE THEIR CONCERNS ON THAT STUFF.BUT, UM, BUT IT'S THE SAME SET OF RULES.
AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S A MOBILE UNIT OR A FIXED UNIT.
UM, ONE DOESN'T NEGATE THE OTHER.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE ULTIMATELY, WE'RE PROVIDING A, A SERVICE WHEN WE USE THESE THINGS, UH, TO, UH, TO PROCESS SAFE AND, AND, AND, UM, HEALTHY MEAT.
BALDON, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBER OF THE BOARDS.
MIKE PARRISH, 38 25 WHITE HALL ROADS, SAND HOOK, VIRGINIA.
I AM, UH, TYPICALLY SLOT OF ONE CAL A YEAR FOR MYSELF AND FAMILY.
AND, UH, I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE ONE YEAR WAIT, I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE TWO YEAR, TWO HOUR DRIVE TO GET THIS JOB DONE.
I AM SUPPORT OF THIS, UM, PROJECT AND I HAVE, UH, AT LEAST TWO OF MY REAL CLOSE FRIENDS THAT DO THE SAME THING THAT I DO, THAT HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS.
I LIVE AT 1813 CEDAR POINT ROAD.
UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY I SUPPORT THIS AND I WOULD, WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT.
I TYPICALLY SLAUGHTER ABOUT ONE STEER PER YEAR OR YEAR AND A HALF FOR MYSELF AND MY FAMILY, AND IT'S JUST GOTTEN IMPOSSIBLE.
UM, I TYPICALLY RECENTLY HAVE BEEN GOING TO KEYSVILLE, WHICH IS ABOUT 90 MILES AWAY, AND IT'S, IT'S A TRIP TO TAKE IT OVER THERE.
IT'S A TRIP TO GO BACK OVER AND GET THE MEAT.
AND IT'S JUST GETTING TO THE POINT THAT IT'S, IT'S HARD TO, TO MAKE IT WORK.
AND I SURE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS PROJECT APPROVED.
CAN I SPEAK ONE MORE TIME? NO, SIR.
RODNEY, STEVE, 1145 WOODS HEAD, LANE MAN SIDE, VIRGINIA 23, 103.
UM, ONE, I WANNA SAY IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT OUR APARTMENTS HAVE TO GO, GO OUT.
THERE'S SOMETHING FUNNY GOING ON AND I THINK HE MENTIONED THAT BEING ONE WANTED TO DO THIS BY SMITHFIELD.
OKAY? UM, TWO, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE STUPID ABOUT THIS.
UM, JUST SO SOME GET RICH AND THE REST OF THE SUFFER, AND I'M NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT THAT.
I'M NOT GONNA APOLOGIZE FOR IT.
ALL RIGHT? AND PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN HERE HAVE ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT POINT, AND I DON'T THINK Y'ALL ARE WANTING THAT, BUT HE'S ALREADY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE'S NEW TO THIS, SO HE'S LACKING EXPERIENCE.
AND TO POINT THAT OUT, 75 COWS A DAY, MAX, HE STATED 1200 GALLONS, 1800 GALLONS.
OUR WATER CONCERN, I'M GONNA LET YOU KNOW IN CASE YOU DON'T ALREADY KNOW.
I'VE HAD PEOPLE MOVING TO MY AREA AND WHEN YOU GOT MORE PEOPLE MOVING TO THE AREA, IT MESSES WHAT YOU WELL, MY WATER HAS GOTTEN MUDDY.
I'VE HAD TO GET A PLUMBER COME OUT.
FORTUNATELY WE WERE ABLE TO GET A NEW UM, PUMP.
SO AS THE COUNTY GROWS, WE'RE JUST GONNA GROW.
WE GOTTA BE THINKING ABOUT THESE THINGS PRIOR ADMINISTRATION AND PEOPLE SITTING UP THERE ACKNOWLEDGE WE'RE GONNA EVENTUALLY HAVE TO GET LIKE RICHMOND.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, YOU'RE GONNA PAY $8,000 TO HOOK INTO THE WATER SYSTEM AND WE'RE GONNA PUMP WATER IN YOUR HOUSE.
THEY'VE ALREADY SAID THIS BEFORE YOU'VE BEEN HERE.
WE TALKED MORE THAN 20, 30 YEARS AGO.
SO ON HIS NUMBER 75 COWS A DAY, UM, LET'S USE HIS MAX OF 1800 GALLONS.
HE SAID THAT MEANS HE'S GONNA OWN, HE'S GONNA REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF 24 GALLONS PER COW.
SO HOW I USED TO WORK AT FD AND I WAS IN SANITATION, APARTMENT CLEANING.
IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA CLEAN SOMETHING, EVERYTHING WITH 24 GALLONS, YOU ARE NUT YOU GOTTA CLEAN A BIG COW WITH 24 GALLONS, THIS WATER, ONE GALLON HERE, YOU THINK YOU'LL CLEAN WHOLE COW WITH ONE GALLON.
YOU CAN'T JUST CUT THE MEAT AND JUST, YOU GOTTA KEEP THE STUFF CLEAN.
HE'S ALREADY MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE GONNA USE VINEGAR.
IN ADDITION, YOU GOTTA PROVIDE WATER FOR YOUR STAFF ALSO.
YOU GOTTA CLEAN THE MACHINES AND TOOLS.
THAT'S A LUNACY FROM A PERSON WHO DOES THIS IN WORKED IN SANITATION.
HE'S GOING TO USE MORE THAN THAT.
SO WE CAN LIE AND PRETEND Y'ALL CAN LIE AND PRETEND MAKE YOUR MONEY.
BUT YOU'RE LYING TO YOURSELF AND ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS PURE MATH.
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COWS ONE PERSON LIKE 50 COWS SAY HE KNOWS OF RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S ONLY GONNA BE 11.IF HE HAD 75 A DAY AND THE EIGHT 50 THERE, HE ONLY GOT 11 DAYS OF WORK AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.
SO HE CAN PULL IN PEOPLE FROM OTHER STATES AND OTHER COUNTIES IN ORDER TO MAKE HIS PROFIT.
IF HE DOESN'T FIND MORE HERE, ONE COW DAY AIN'T GONNA DO IT THAN HIS LAST INDIVIDUAL TALKED ABOUT.
STEVE HOPKINS, FIFTY FIVE SEVENTEEN ROUNDABOUT ROAD.
UM, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE EFFICIENCY AND THE SIZE ISSUE THAT HAS COME UP SEVERAL TIMES A COMMERCIAL FACILITY, AND I'VE BEEN IN A NUMBER OF 'EM, RUN LINES THAT ARE KILLING 2200 A DAY AND THE BIGGER PLANTS ARE RUNNING THREE LINES A DAY.
SO THEY'RE KILLING 6,600 HERE A DAY.
THAT'S ON ONE END OF THE SPECTRUM.
THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM IS THE MOBILE UNITS.
YES, BUT THEY ONLY KILL A FEW.
IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THE EQUATION OF HELPING A LARGE SCALED OR NUMBER OF FARMERS AROUND.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS STUDY, AND IT WAS A YEAR LONG STUDY, EXPERTS WERE BOUGHT IN TO DO THE STUDY.
IT WAS A LOT OF MONEY PUT INTO THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT I'M ADDRESSING.
BUT THE REASON THIS SIZE FACILITY HAS IS IT TAKES THAT SIZE AND EFFICIENCY IS A KEY.
IT'S VERY SMALL MARGINS IN THIS.
UM, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT SIZE TO BE EFFICIENT AND THE WHOLE DESIGN IS ON EFFICIENCY.
SO THE MOBILE UNIT IS NOT GONNA ADDRESS THE NEED, NOR IS IT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE TO DO.
UM, AND THEN IF YOU LOOKING AT SOMETHING LARGE AND COMPARING IT TO THIS IS NOTHING COMPARED TO A COMMERCIAL FACILITY.
AND I SUPPORT THE VENTURE AND I WILL COMPLIMENT HIM.
THAT WAS OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION.
HE'S OBVIOUSLY DONE HIS HOMEWORK.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU.
I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER WHAT I WENT OVER PREVIOUSLY.
WOULD YOU MIND JUST REST STATING YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? OH, I APOLOGIZE SIR.
JAMES CANYON, 58 36 ELLISVILLE DRIVE, LOUISE, VIRGINIA, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA, UH, CATTLE ASSOCIATION.
AND ON BEHALF OF THAT ASSOCIATION, WE WOULD ENDORSE THE APPROVAL OF THIS CPU.
UH, IT WOULD BE A GREAT ADVANTAGE TO A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF OUR MEMBERSHIP, NOT ONLY FROM A PRIVATE USE, BUT WITH THE ONES THAT DO HAVE THE FARM TO CONSUME, UH, MEAT PROCESSING IN IN THEIR THINGS.
I THINK THEY HAVE GIVEN AN EXCELLENT, UH, PRESENTATION HERE WITH THE EXPERIENCE THAT I AND, AND SOME OF US HAVE HAD WHEN WE HAVE BEEN PUTTING IN LARGE CONFINEMENT OPERATIONS AND EVERYTHING.
HE HAS A, WHEN HE GETS A DEQ AND EPA APPROVAL ON WHAT PLANS HE HAVE, I DON'T THINK THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.
THANK YOU MR. KING GARRETT HOPKINS.
UH, 51 81 ROUNDABOUT ROAD, LOUISA, VIRGINIA.
I MISSPOKE ON MY ADDRESS EARLIER.
UM, I JUST THINK IT, IT'S, I ENVY HIM FOR WHAT ALL HE IS DOING FOR THIS.
THE AMOUNT OF PERMITS A, A INSPECTION AND EVERYTHING IS IMMENSE.
UM, HOW MUCH THAT IS GONNA BE, AS LONG AS WELL AS THE COST FOR THIS.
AND I THINK IT ALSO SHOWS A POINT THAT HE IS WORKING WITH HIS NEIGHBORS FOR MAKING THE 100 FOOT BUFFER ZONE AROUND THE FACILITY WHERE HE SAID HE WAS, UM, THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRED WITHIN, UM, THE REGULATION JOB SET FORTH BEFORE.
AND HE'S REALLY GOING THE EXTRA STEP AND I SUPPORT THIS FACILITY.
FRANKLIN PAYNE, UH, 45 31 HICKORY HILL ROAD.
UH, I JUST THINK MAYBE WE OUGHT TO THINK ABOUT THIS A DIFFERENT WAY.
HOW MANY OF Y'ALL, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WENT TO THE STORE LAST YEAR, YOU HAD EMPTY SHELLS, BIG MEAT PROCESSING PLANT BURNT DOWN OUT WEST.
I THINK IT'S A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY.
THESE LITTLE FACILITIES YOU HAUL, THEY DO QUALITY MEAT.
I'VE GOT A FRIEND THAT'S BUILDING A, A MEAT SELLING THING ON 5 22, WHICH HE RAISES HIS OWN CATTLE AND IT HAS TO BE U S D A INSPECTED.
YOU'LL BE ABLE TO JUST DRIVE OVER THERE, PICK UP YOUR MEAT ANYTIME YOU WANT IT, YOU GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND IT'S OUT.
I MEAN, YOU CAN GO TO HIM AS LONG AS HE CAN KEEP A SUFFICIENT SUPPLY, BUT LIKE NOW HE'S LIKE, HE DOES A LOT BUT TWO YEARS OUT TO GET AN EXTRA BUSINESS.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT'S JUST FOR THE FARMERS, BUT IT'S ALSO FOR THE CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITY.
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FOR THEM.I LIVE AT 51 81 ROUNDABOUT ROAD, LOUISA, VIRGINIA.
I GUESS MR. PAYNE SPOKE ON IT A LITTLE BIT, SO I'LL BE VERY BRIEF HERE.
CURRENTLY IN AMERICA THERE ARE FOUR MAJOR PACKERS THAT PROVIDED OVER 80% OF THE MEAT SUPPLY HERE IN THE US.
THREE OF THOSE FOUR PACKERS ARE OWNED OUTSIDE OF THE UNITED STATES.
SO THERE ARE FOUR KNOWN PACKERS.
SO A LOT HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT PEOPLE BECOMING WEALTHY AND TAKING THEIR MONEY.
CURRENTLY MOST OF THAT, MOST OF THOSE PROFITS ARE GOING TO THOSE FOUR MAJOR PACKERS AND ACROSS THE US FOUR PEOPLE CONTROLLING THE PRICES THAT FARMERS RECEIVE FOR THEIR CATTLE.
IT'S NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS IN TERMS OF SUPPLY AND DEMAND WHERE THERE'S FOUR ENTITIES CAN CONTROL MOST OF THE SUPPLY, SUPPLY AND PROFITS THAT FARMERS ARE MAKING.
SO, LIKE MR. PAYNE SAID, I THINK A SMALLER REGIONAL PACKER IN THIS AREA WILL KEEP, UM, OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE FOR FARMERS TO BECOME MORE PROFITABLE.
AND ALSO, LIKE HE SAID, THIS LOCAL MEAT SHOP AND SLAUGHTER FACILITY WILL ALSO ALLOW FOR LOWER PRICES AVAILABLE TO THE CONSUMER.
I'M IN VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THIS, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS GENTLEMAN.
UH, JONATHAN LOW 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
MANNEQUIN SAV, CURRENTLY CHAIRMAN OF THE MANNEQUIN SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN HOT OFF THE PRESS.
I'VE JUST RETURNED FROM THE STATE CONVENTION AND UH, WHAT I HAVE HERE IS THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS POLICY BOOK.
AND JUST TO MAKE SURE I GET IT RIGHT, I'M GONNA READ A COUPLE PHRASES FROM IT.
AND THE FIRST ONE, IT STARTS POLICY ON THE RIGHT TO FORM AGRICULTURE AND FOURTH DISTRICTS IN VIRGINIA RIGHT TO FARM.
IT'S IN THE STATE CONSTITUTION THAT THERE IS A RIGHT TO FARM AND PART OF IT SAYS IT IS THE POLICY OF THE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS TO SUPPORT FARMLAND PROTECTION AND THE RIGHT TO FARM.
THE RIGHT TO FARM LAW IN VIRGINIA.
PRESERVATIONS ARE MEASURES TO PROTECT FARMS AND COMMUNITIES FROM THE INCREASING PRESSURES OF SUBURBAN SPRAWL ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH, WEALTH, AGRICULTURE, AND FOREST DISTRICTS PROTECT CURRENT LAND USES AND MAKE AGRICULTURE AND FORESTY OPERATIONS FEASIBLE.
WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT? RECENT GROWTH IN THE COMMONWEALTH HAS REACHED A POINT WHERE FARMLAND IS NOW BEING CONVERTED AT AN UNPRECEDENTED RATE.
THE PIEDMONT REGION, INCLUDING VIRGINIA, HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS THE SECOND MOST THREATENED FARMLAND REGION IN THE UNITED STATES, NOT VIRGINIA, THE UNITED STATES.
AGRICULTURE IS THE PRIMARY PROVIDER OF THE WORKING LANDSCAPE AND OPEN SPACES RURAL IN VIRGINIA.
A BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT, A BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT, WHICH SUPPORTS THE CONTINUATION OF THE AGRICULTURE COMMUNITY IS AMONG THE BEST WAYS TO ENSURE THE PRESERVATION OF OPEN SPACE.
THEREFORE, THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS HAS A STRONG COMMITMENT TO SUPPORT RESPONSIBLE AGRICULTURAL ACTIVITIES IN THE COMMONWEALTH.
WE PROMOTE BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, STEWARDSHIP AMONG THE FARM COMMUNITY, AND CONVERSELY ACTIVITIES THAT SUPPORT THE SAME COMMUNITY AGAINST ACTIONS THAT DANGER THEIR EXISTENCE.
THE RIGHT TO FARM LAW IN VIRGINIA PROVIDES VALUABLE PROTECTION TO AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTION PRODUCTION OPERATIONS IN THE COMMONWEALTH.
THE LAW AMENDED IN 1995 STRENGTHENS THE LEGAL POSITION OF FARMERS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ENDORSING SOMETHING THAT REALLY IS CORE TO WHAT THE COUNTY'S LOOKING TO DO.
KEEP GSON RURAL, PROTECT OPEN SPACES AND LET THE FARMING COMMUNITY TO FARM.
SO THAT IS ON BEHALF OF A STATE ASSOCIATION, MY TIME'S UP.
OKAY, I'M NOT A VERY GOOD SPEAKER.
SHARON SHORTRIDGE, 46 0 9 HAYDENVILLE FARMS LANE.
UM, FROM WHAT THE SOUNDS OF IT, MOST OF YOU GUYS THAT HAVE ALL THESE CATTLE ARE IN LOUISA COUNTY AND ALL THESE OTHER COUNTIES AND AREAS.
I LIKE MY COW TO EAT AND I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT IT IN MY BACKYARD.
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ELSE? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.THIS IS A VERY EMOTIONAL ISSUE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING SO RESPECTFUL AND KIND.
BOARD, DID WE WANT, DID THE APPLICANT WANT TO COME UP AND, UH, ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT THEY HEARD? YES.
IS THAT ALRIGHT? THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL THE INSIGHT AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S VIEWS FOR IT OR AGAINST IT.
UM, I WANNA MAKE A POINT, I'VE HEARD THIS A LOT.
I EVEN THINK I SAW IT IN THE NEWS ARTICLE.
THAT'S AT MOST 10 TO 15 A DAY.
UM, AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE POWER ISSUE, IT'S CENTRAL VIRGINIA ELECTRIC COMPANY.
THERE'S THREE PHASE POWER AT MIDPOINT INDUSTRIAL PARK, WHICH WE NEED.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN OPERATE, UM, RELATING TO THE MOBILE PROCESSOR THAT'S DONE EITHER WITH A THREE PHASE HOOKUP OR WITH GENERATORS.
THIS FACILITY COMES WITH MULTIPLE GENERATORS.
IF WE LOSE POWER, ALL THE MIKO IS BAD.
THAT WILL BE AS PART OF THE PACKAGE THAT COMES IN WITH FRIA.
THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE GENERATORS TO PREPARE OURSELF FOR AN EVENT THAT THAT HAPPENS.
UM, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT KIND OF, THERE WAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT STUFF HERE.
SO, UM, EXCUSE ME, UM, AS I GO THROUGH IT.
UM, BUT I MYSELF WAS IN THE INAUGURAL, UM, VIRGINIA STATE, UH, UNIVERSITY MIDDLE PROCESSING UNIT CLASS.
UM, THERE'S MY CERTIFICATE RIGHT THERE.
I WAS IN THE SAME CLASS AS PAUL BOLDEN, TANYA KALIN WHO SPOKE TODAY.
UM, IT'S A GREAT RESOURCE FOR PEOPLE WITH SMALL REMNANTS, SHEEP, CATTLE, OR SORRY, SHEEP, UM, GOATS, ANYTHING SMALL LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW, THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO A COW.
UM, AND THEY DON'T HAVE A SCALING UNIT OR SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO DO A PIG.
IT'S A GREAT OPTION FOR A CERTAIN MARKET, NOT THE MARKET THAT WE ARE TRYING TO SERVE HERE.
UM, IT'S STILL IN THE VERY EARLY STAGES.
THERE'S SO MUCH MORE THAT GOES INTO IT THAN JUST THAT TRAILER PULLING UP TO YOUR FARM AND DOING IT.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO WORK IN LOCKSTEP WITH THE U S D A, YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE A ASSET PLAN.
YOU STILL HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THAT.
UM, SO AS FAR AS THE EFFICIENCY OF THAT, IT'S JUST NOT, IN MY OPINION, A VIABLE OPTION FOR THE MARKET WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE.
UM, ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO UH, POINT OUT WAS THAT, UM, SOME OF THE COMPARABLE PLACES LIKE SEVEN HILLS TEENY MEETS SOMEONE TOUCHED ON ARE CLOSER TO NEIGHBORHOODS IN PLACES WHERE YOU WOULD THINK THAT, UH, BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS, NO ONE WOULD WANT THEM THERE.
BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, I'VE GOT 'EM RIGHT HERE.
IT'S A LITTLE SMALL TO SEE, BUT THAT'S SEVEN HILLS RIGHT OFF OF THE INTERSTATE.
JUST LIKE I'M TRYING TO DO LESS OF A BUFFER ZONE IS WHAT I'M WILLING TO DO.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA AND THEY DO A SIMILAR CAPACITY.
WHAT WE DO, UM, YOU'VE GOT DONALD'S MEETS IN LEXINGTON.
YOU'VE GOT VMIS CAMPUS RIGHT THERE, ELEMENTARY SCHOOL RIGHT HERE, MA RIVER RIGHT THERE.
UM, SOME SORT OF POND RESERVOIR RIGHT THERE.
THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE THE SEVENTIES WITH CONSTANT OVERSIGHT.
I, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I'VE HAD NO ISSUES.
UM, I SHOW YOU THIS, THIS IST MEETS TEENY MEETS.
UM, THEY'RE IN INDUSTRIAL PARK RIGHT HERE, SIMILAR TO WHAT A MIDPOINT WOULD LOOK LIKE ONCE IT'S FULLY DEVELOPED.
UM, THEY HAVE NO BUFFER ZONE AT ALL.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THEIR ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE, IT'S RIGHT FROM, SORRY, IT'S RIGHT FROM THE ROAD.
UM, AND SO BASICALLY TO MY POINT AT ALL, THIS IS WE REALLY PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THE LOCATION AND WE ARE TRULY HIDDEN FROM THE ROAD.
OUR, OUR ROAD THAT GOES IN IS OVER 200 FEET LONG.
WE'RE SURROUNDED BY NOTHING BUT WOODED AREAS.
WE'VE PUT IN THESE BUFFER ZONES TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND TRY TO KEEP OURSELVES LOW PROFILE.
WE'VE AGREED TO HAVE LIMITED SIGNAGE.
UM, I TRULY THINK THAT OUR LOCATION MAKES THE MOST SENSE, UM, OUTTA ANY OF THESE LOCATIONS.
UM, AND I GUESS THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE THINGS, THESE PLACES BEEN ALONG FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY'VE SERVED THEIR COMMUNITIES AND THEIR LOCAL COUNTIES VERY WELL AND THAT'S WHY THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR SO LONG.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH OF 'EM.
I KNOW PEOPLE THAT GO HERE AND THERE'S A YEAR TO TWO YEAR WAIT AND THEY'RE DRIVING ALL THE WAY ACROSS THE STATE.
SO HAVING ONE IN GUC COUNTY, UM, WOULD BE SO BENEFICIAL FOR OUR COUNTY AND FOR SURROUNDING COUNTIES.
AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DON'T, THERE'S NOT REALLY
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ANY MEAT PROCESSORS LIKE THESE THAT ARE DOING THE 225, UM, HEAD OF DAY, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM MAXIMUM OF FREE SYSTEM CAN DO.I THINK THERE WAS A MISCONCEPTION THAT STATED THAT EACH MODULE LEADS TO 75 CATTLE.
IT'S FOUR MODULES THAT LEAD TO 75 CATTLE.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO EXPAND FROM 75 CATTLE TO 150 CATTLE, YOU'D HAVE TO INCLUDE FOUR NEW MODULES.
IT'S NOT JUST ONE MODULE, IT'S 75 CATTLE.
UM, SO I THINK THAT WAS, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A MISCONCEPTION THERE.
YOU WOULD REALLY NEED TO DO ALL FOUR AND THEN YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDESIGN THE ENTIRE SEPTIC DRAIN FIELD.
I THINK IF I WAS PLANNING FOR ANY SORT OF EXPANSION, SHANNON, WHO'S DOING THE SEPTIC DRAIN FIELD, WE WOULD BE DOING THAT ACCORDINGLY.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND MESS WITH IT.
I THINK FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, BEING A SMALL LOCAL NICHE PROCESSOR, 75 IS MORE THAN ENOUGH.
AND TO EVEN EXPAND, I, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN.
IT'S NOTHING THAT I WOULD TRY TO MISCONSTRUE OR TRY TO SAY, I'M NOT GONNA EXPAND AND THE NEXT WEEK EXPAND.
UM, SO I THINK WE'RE VERY CONTENT WITH DOING 50 TO 75 A WEEK, AND IN THE BEGINNING IT'LL BE LESS THAN THAT AS WE PERFECT OUR CRAFTS.
SO, UM, THAT WAS A LOT OF, UM, UH, A POINT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE, UM, BEFORE THE END OF THIS REBUTTAL IS THAT THIS LAND IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL A ONE.
THERE'S NO CAP ON HOW MANY CATTLE CAN BE ON, UH, A ZONED A ONE PROPERTY.
THERE'S CAP ON HORSES, BUT THERE'S NO CATTLE.
SO IN THEORY YOU COULD CLEAR CUT THE WHOLE PIECE OF LAND AND PUT A HUNDRED, 200 CATTLE THERE, WHO THE MANURE'S NOT GONNA BE REGULATED.
IT IS JUST OVER TIME YOU'RE GONNA RUN OFF.
WE ARE GONNA HAVE SOMEONE OUT THERE COLLECTING THAT MANURE, COLLECTING ALL THE
I WOULD BE VERY CONFIDENT SAYING THERE'S GONNA BE MUCH LESS SMELL FROM MY FACILITY THAN IF I WERE TO HAVE A DAIRY FARM OR A BIG CATTLE FARM WITH CATTLE JUST WALKING AROUND.
AND AS FAR AS THE OVERSIGHT, I'VE BEEN DRIVING AROUND ROADS OF GOLAND A FEW TIMES A YEAR.
IT'S, IT'S A PART OF THE, OF THAT.
OURS ARE GONNA BE IN METAL CORRALS, BIG STEEL SYSTEMS WHERE THEY'RE NOT JUST FREE ROAMING IN A WOODEN PADDOCK OR WOODEN PASTURE.
SO, UM, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT THAT WITH THE STRUCTURE WE PUT IN PLACE, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SURVEIL THESE CATTLE OVERNIGHT AND THERE WON'T BE ISSUES LEADING TO THAT.
SO THAT WERE MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THOSE ARE KINDA MY MAIN POINTS.
THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS KIND OF THAT WERE ASKED AND UM, YOU, IF I HAD 'EM ALL WRITTEN DOWN, I WOULD LOVE TO KIND OF REBUTT 'EM ALL.
BUT THOSE ARE THE MAIN POINTS I WANNA MAKE.
AND, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I, I LOVE GUC AND I PLAN ON BEING HERE FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
I WENT TO SCHOOL FOR ENTREPRENEURSHIP AND BUSINESS MANAGEMENT AND I FEEL CONFIDENT I CAN PULL THIS OFF.
I'VE GOT THE RIGHT PEOPLE ON MY ADVISORY COMMITTEE WORKING WITH THE RIGHT CONSULTANT GROUP, AND I THINK TOGETHER WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN STRENGTHS TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN AND MAKE IT BENEFICIAL FOR THE, UH, COMMUNITY AND THE COUNTY.
AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I HAVE TO SAY.
MR. WATERS, I JUST HAD TWO QUESTIONS.
UM, I DO, I DO THINK I WANT MORE REGULATION LIKE A HOLE IN MY HEAD, BUT I DO THINK ONE NUMBER YOU'VE USED A LOT IS 75 A WEEK.
AND I THINK IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY IF YOU WERE, IF, IF THIS BUSINESS WERE AMENABLE IN THE C U TO TO SAY A MAXIMUM OF A HUNDRED WEEK.
AND, AND LIKE, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, I WANT THERE TO BE CUSHION.
I UNDERSTAND THIS CHANGE, I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT, BUT WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO DO AND IN ADDITION TO AN OPERATING HOURS LIMITATION? WELL, I THINK THE, THE CAPACITY FOR MY SYSTEM, IT CAN'T DO MORE THAN 75.
SO, UM, I GUESS IF WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS INSTEAD OF DOING IT BY SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEN BY HEAD, UM, YOU KNOW, THE AMENDMENT THE COUNTY MADE, THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THEY MADE WAS 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND I KNOW IT'S MY WORD AGAINST ANYONE ELSE'S, BUT I DON'T HAVE PLANS ON EXPANDING.
AND EVEN IF WE DID, IF YOU LOOK AT AROUND ALL THE U S D A SLAUGHTER HOUSES IN VIRGINIA, NO ONE'S DOING THAT MANY.
THERE'S NOT ENOUGH DEMAND FOR, UH, THAT MANY.
UM, SO IN THAT REGARD, I DON'T EVER FORESEE MY, UH, FACILITY GETTING EVEN CLOSE TO THAT 10,000 SQUARE FOOTAGE NUMBER.
UM, SO, UM, I GUESS TO, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I THINK THE WAY WE HAVE IT SET UP WHERE I'M AT 75 RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN IF THEY WANTED TO EXPAND, IF YOU DID,
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IF WE DID, THEN WE WOULD BE BACK HERE HAVING, UM, ANOTHER CONVERSATION.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. BRO? NO, THAT WAS IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MISSLES, GO AHEAD.
WELL, I'M, I'M, I'M THINKING BECAUSE I, I ALSO WAS TRYING TO WRITE DOWN QUESTIONS AS PEOPLE WERE TALKING.
SO YOU TALKED ABOUT THE GENERATORS, UM, LIKE, OH, STILL THERE ARE A COUPLE QUESTIONS STILL OUTSTANDING, I THINK ON THE TRAFFIC.
UM, MR. KELLENBERGER MENTIONED, UH, THE VEHICLES THAT ARE REMOVING THE WAIST, WHAT KIND OF SIZE ARE THOSE? ARE THEY, THOSE ARE COMING LIKE ONCE A WEEK.
AND ARE THOSE LIKE TRACTOR TRAILERS OR DO YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A, A FLATBED.
UM, IT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, I GUESS, ONE OF THOSE TRAILERS THAT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE A, A DUMP TRUCK.
IT BACKS UP AND IT PULLS THE, UH, THE BIG DUMPSTER ON TOP OF IT.
SO IT'S SIMILAR TO TRACTOR TRAILER, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY A FULL TRAILER ATTACHED TO IT.
IT'S, UM, ANDREW, CAN YOU HELP ME OUT WITH A ROLL OFF TRUCK PULLS ROLL OFF CONTAINER? YEAH.
IT'S NOT A FULL TRACTOR TRAILER SIZE.
AND THEN THE VEHICLE THAT'S TAKING THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE STUFF
UM, AND THEY BUT THAT'S IN LIKE CONTAINERS, RIGHT? OR RAWS? IT'S THERE.
CONTAINER AND BARREL DRUMS, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THOSE ARE LOADED INTO A CLIMATE CONTROLLED, UH, VAN.
UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, UM, A CLOSED IN CLIMATE CONTROL.
UM, CAUSE THEY'RE CLIMATE CONTROL WHERE YOU ARE AND THEY STAY CLIMATE CONTROL.
YEAH, THEY STAY CLIMATE CONTROL RIGHT WHEN, WHEN THEY LEAVE AND THEN THEY GO TO, TO THEIR FACILITY, UM, IN ASHLAND.
UM, AND THERE'S STILL SOME QUESTION ABOUT, UM, I THINK MISS, UH, GRIFFS WAS TALKING ABOUT IT, A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE DID TOO.
WHEN YOU ARE COMING OFF OF THE INTERSTATE, TURNING NORTH, THAT'S KIND OF A BLIND CURVE THERE.
UM, IS VDOT AND YOU DID SHOW VDOT S LOGO ON ONE OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA BE REGULATING YOU? OR IS THERE ANYTHING THAT CAN BE DONE THERE? IS THERE SIGNAGE? IS THERE SPEED LIMIT STUDIES? SO, UM, SO OUR PLAN, WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO TO GET THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPROVED, AND VDOT WILL BE A PARTY TO THAT REVIEW, AND THEY WILL BE REVIEWING OUR ENTRANCE, AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO VERIFY THAT WE MEET SITE DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE PROPOSED ENTRANCE.
UM, AS FAR AS, SO, UH, WHEN I WAS CONSIDERING SITE DISTANCE AND LOOKING WHAT THE SPEED LIMIT WAS, I ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND DROVE AROUND AND I DID NOT SEE A SPEED LIMIT SIGN FOR ON THAT ROAD FROM BROAD STREET UNTIL THE COUNTY LINE.
AND AT THE COUNTY LINE, I BECAME 40 MILES AN HOUR, AND THEN I WENT UP IN LOUISIANA.
I TURNED AROUND AND CAME BACK AND IT SAID IN 40 MILES AN HOUR.
SO IT WAS NOT A SPEED LIMIT, WE ASSUME 55.
SO WE, WE WILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR 55 MILES AN HOUR, BUT THERE MAY BE A PROCESS THAT WE COULD GO THROUGH TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT THROUGH THAT SECTION OF ROAD.
IT IS LOWER IN, IN LOUISA TODAY.
THERE JUST, THERE'S NO SPEED LIMIT POSTED AT ALL ON THE SECTION IN GOLAND.
JUST HAPPEN TO NOTICE THAT ONE.
I WELL, WHEN YOU CROSS OVER THE LOUISA LINE, THAT DROPS DOWN.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE ADDRESS I'VE HAD THAT, THAT CONVERSATION MANY TIMES.
UH, STORM WATER, MR. JONES MENTIONED STORM WATER.
YEAH, SO IT, PART OF OUR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, WE WILL ADDRESS STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE TO DESIGN A SYSTEM THAT WILL MEET WATER QUALITY AND QUANTITY REQUIREMENTS OF THE, OF THE VIRGINIA STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM.
THAT WILL PROBABLY BE DONE THROUGH SOME TYPE OF DRY POND THAT HAS DETENTION, BUT ALSO SOME WATER QUALITY.
SO BASICALLY IT HOLDS THE WATER AND THE LEECHES SETTLE OUT OVER TIME, AND THEN WE RELEASE IT SLOWER.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN, I THINK FOR A, AN ELABORATE WET POND WITH, WITH AIR RAIDERS AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
BUT THE, THE FINAL DESIGN OF THE STORMWATER PLAN WILL BE HASHED OUT DURING THE PLAN REVIEW DURING THE P D PORTION OF THE, OF THE PROJECT.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, DOING, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES AT THE BEGINNING.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THERE, BUT ALONG THE WAY, LIKE EVERY YEAR OR SOMETHING, ARE THERE STUDIES THAT ARE DONE TO SEE IF ANYTHING IS GOING ON? I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT WORK? THERE ARE STUDIES DONE OUTSIDE OF JUST ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.
UM, I THINK PAUL BOLTON MENTIONED THAT, OR, AND ALSO BOBBY WHO'S HAD WORKED WITH SEVEN HILLS IS THEY'RE ON YOU.
I MEAN, THEY'RE REGULATING, THEY'RE INSPECTING YOU.
IT'S NOT JUST ONCE EVERY FEW YEARS.
I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE BY YEAR.
I MEAN, EVERY, PROBABLY EVERY SIX MONTHS OR SO.
I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER ON THAT.
ALL I KNOW IS THAT, THAT E THE EPA REGULATES THAT HEAVILY.
AND, AND THAT'S CPA, YOU'RE SAYING? YES.
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BELIEVE THE EPA, IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM ANOTHER SPEAKER, THEY ARE REQUIRING WATER SAMPLING THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS FOR EVERY YEAR AS PART OF THIS U S D A PERMIT.AND I'M SURE THOSE PERMITS ARE KIND OF LIKE THIS ONE WHERE YOU HAVE TO REAPPLY.
WELL, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE PROBABLY AS TOUGH AS EPA, BUT, UM, BE HONEST WITH YOU.
SO STORM WATER ROAD CONDITIONS, UM, AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT 18 WHEELERS, I THINK THAT WAS MENTIONED, UM, BARREN, UH, KELLENBERGER MENTIONED THOSE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT ANTICIPATING, I DON'T KNOW, AN 18 WHEELER THAT CAN PULL 30 HEAD OF CATTLE.
UM, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE SERVING A MARKET THAT BIG.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE GOOSENECK TRAILERS BRINGING ONE TO TWO.
I MEAN, IF WE'RE DOING 10 TO 15 A DAY, IT SHOULD BE, UM, 10 CARS, 10 TRUCKS AT THE MOST.
AND WE'RE ACROSS FROM THE INDUSTRIAL PARK.
I'M SURE THERE'S SOME 18 WHEELERS USING THE INDUSTRIAL PART CURRENTLY OR USES IN THERE THAT WOULD WARRANT THAT OBVIOUS.
THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I THINK THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE CITIZENS, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
WE HEARD FROM, UH, AT LEAST ONE CITIZEN AND SAW ON THE NEWS THAT, THAT THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT COMMUNICATION OF THE, THE HEARINGS.
I KNOW IT'S OUR POLICY TO SEND OUT LETTERS TO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DID TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE NEIGHBORS, SIR? MM, I, UH, WAS PROVIDED A LIST OF, I BELIEVE IT WAS 18 ADJACENT OWNERS.
UM, I WROTE A LETTER THAT HAD ALL MY INFORMATION ON IT, SENT IT TO THEM.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT ON THE GWAN WEBSITE, ALL THESE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN POSTED FAR OUT IN ADVANCE.
UM, I CAN'T PROVE THAT WITH A FACT.
UM, I KNOW THE EMAILS THAT I SENT OUT, I SENT THEM OUT ON TIME.
THE LETTERS WENT TO ADDRESSES.
I WAS CALLED BY NUMEROUS PEOPLE THAT I SPOKE WITH AFTER THEY CALLED ME TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNEW ABOUT THE MEETING AND MAKE, ESPECIALLY THAT FIRST ONE AT FIRE STATION SIX, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE, THE ADJACENT OWNER MEETING.
UM, THE LAST MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, I WASN'T ASKED TO MAIL ANY LETTERS OR EMAIL ANYONE ABOUT THAT.
THAT ONE WAS, UM, ON THE BULLETIN.
SO HE, HE GOT A LIST OF FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS, AND WE SENT LETTERS TO THE DIRECTLY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
UH, THE, THE LACK OF NOTICE OR ANY, ANYTIME WE HAVE THIS, THIS ISN'T THE ONLY TIME THIS HAPPENS WHERE PEOPLE SAY, I HAD NO IDEA.
AND, AND, AND SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS A BOARD NEED TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH STAFF, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, COMMUNITIES NOTIFIED THIS, THIS IS, IT SEEMS TO ME FROM EVERYTHING THAT'S, WE'VE HEARD THAT YOU'VE, YOU'VE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S KIND OF KEY TO, UH, KEY TO THESE WORKING OUT AND, AND BEING, YOU KNOW, BEFORE US IN A, IN A SHAPE IN A STATE WHERE, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST YOU'VE ADDRESSED THINGS AND SOME THINGS, WELL, I I CAN'T DO THAT.
SO I, I APPRECIATE THAT IT'S, UM, BUT THIS IS ALSO, IN SOME WAYS YOU STILL HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO.
YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF YOU.
WE REALIZE THAT, I KNOW YOU STILL DEAL WITH THE COUNTY ON THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT THINGS, BUT THIS IS THE LAST SHOT THAT THE CITIZENS HAVE THROUGH THEIR REPRESENTATIVES TO REALLY NAIL DOWN SOME THINGS.
SO I THINK, AND THEN WE HAVE THE, THE TOUGHER ASPECT, AND, AND THIS OFTEN COMES UP WITH ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
WE HAVE THE EPA, THE D E Q, THE STATE WATER BOARD, WE HAVE ALL THESE THAT WE DON'T, BUT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE CI TO THE CITIZENS IN AREAS WHERE YOU RELY ON SEPTIC AND WELL, UM, SO I GUESS WE TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO GET THAT RIGHT FROM, FROM OUR APPROACH WHERE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF SAY OVER THAT.
UM, AND SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THESE THINGS COME UP.
AND WE CERTAINLY WANNA KNOW THAT THEY'RE BEING ADDRESSED, BUT I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE REGULATION, UM, OH, AND OVERSIGHT, UH, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE.
MR. OTER SAID, YOU KNOW, HE DOESN'T NEED ANY MORE REGULATION THAN HE, AND, AND I, I AGREE WITH HIM WITH A LIGHTER HAND ON BUSINESS AND, AND OWNERS SHOULD USE THEIR PROPERTY, BUT THIS, THIS IS THE, THE PLACE TO, TO DEAL WITH THE LAND USE QUESTIONS AND MM-HMM.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE TAKING YOUR WORD ON IT, AND, AND I LIKED WHAT THE OTHER FELLOW THAT CAME IN HERE, UM, AND TALKED ABOUT, INTRODUCED US TO LYNCHBURG AND ALL THESE THINGS.
THAT'S VERY COMFORTING TO HEAR THESE THINGS, TO KNOW THE, AND HE EVEN ADDRESSED THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S ONE PERSON WALKING IN HERE TELLING US WHAT
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HE KNOWS AND, AND WHEN, WHEN HE'S GONE AND WE'RE GONE AND THIS HEARING'S OVER, IF THAT'S NOT THE LAW AND THE FACTS, THEN WE'RE LEFT HOLDING THE BAG.I GO BACK TO, I THINK I GO BACK TO, I DO GO BACK AND I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO GO BACK TO MY REQUEST.
WILL, WILL YOU PUT AN HOURS OF OPERATION CLEAR IN YOUR, IN YOUR PROFFERS? I KNOW AS A PRACTICAL MATTER THERE, AND MAYBE THE U S D A SAYS, YOU CAN'T DO THIS AT TWO IN THE MORNING.
SO YOU KNOW, YOU'D NEED TO TELL US WHAT, WHAT WORKS FOR YOU.
AND THEN WE DECIDE WHETHER THAT WORKS FOR THIS SETTING.
I WOULD LIKE IT TO BE SO THAT, AGAIN, FOLKS MENTION OUR, OUR TRACTOR TRAILER IS GONNA BE QUEUING UP AND SITTING OUT FRONT, YOU KNOW, WAITING TO, YOU KNOW, WAITING FOR YOU TO OPEN THE GATES IN THE MORNING.
SO IT WOULD BE IDEAL IF, TO ME, THE HOURS OF OPERATION, YOUR APPLICATION SAID EIGHT 30 TO FIVE, I THINK THE GATE WOULD, THAT'S WHEN WORKERS ARE IN THERE.
IF YOU'RE HAVING DROP OFF AND, AND PICK UP TIMES DIFFERENT, JUST TELL US WHAT THAT CAN BE.
BUT LET'S HAVE IT SO THAT TRAFFIC ISN'T GOING IN AND OUT.
YOU CAN'T PREVENT SOMEBODY FROM PULLING UP AND PARKING ON THE STREET.
BUT WE CAN, WE CAN PATROL THAT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE CAN MOVE PEOPLE ALONG FROM PARKING ILLEGALLY ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
BUT, UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.
AND THEN I, IF, IF MR. BAR SUGGESTED A HUNDRED, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOUR PHYSICAL CAPACITY CAN'T EVEN GET TO THAT.
BUT IF YOU COULD PUT IT IN PLAIN LANGUAGE, THERE WILL NOT BE MORE THAN A HUNDRED A WEEK.
SO AT LEAST WE HAVE CLEAR LANGUAGE, UM, ON THOSE TWO ITEMS WOULD ADDRESS CONCERNS THAT, THAT MM-HMM.
I MEAN, THEY'RE OTHER CONCERNS, BUT I THINK THOSE ARE YOU WILLING TO ADDRESS, YOU WILLING TO PUT CONDITIONS ON THE CASE NOW TO ADDRESS? YEAH.
I'VE DRAFTED CONDITIONS AS WE'VE GONE ALONG.
CAUSE THESE ARE IMPOSED CONDITIONS.
UM, AND I'VE SHARED THEM WITH PLANNING STAFF ON THE CASE.
SO I MEAN, WE'RE PREPARED TO, TO TALK ABOUT THOSE, WHETHER YOU HAVE THE WRITING OR, BUT, AND I JUST WANNA SAY WE DON'T WANT TO BE NON-COMMERCIAL.
WE WANT IT TO BE ANY BUSINESS, BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH WHAT WE DO, BUT IT'S JUST, I THINK IT GOES A LONG WAY TO MM-HMM.
OR, AND AND YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CONCERN.
AND, AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT THEM TO BE OKAY WITH THE CONDITIONS, BUT TYPICALLY WHEN YOU GUYS ARE ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS IN THE C P, YOU KNOW, PLANNING STAFF AND I TRY AND DRAFT SOMETHING AND THEN GET IT INTO THE RECORD AND SEE IF IT'S OKAY, IF, IF YOU'RE RECEPTIVE, CAN WE HEAR WHAT, UH, WHAT WHAT IS DRAFTED? AND YOU WOULD TELL US, UM, ALL RIGHT, SEE HOW THIS FLIES.
UM, SO WHAT WE PUT TOGETHER IS, SO WE'D HAVE A CONDITION THAT WOULD BE HOURS OF OPERATION ACTIVITY IN THE PROCESSING FACILITY.
AND DELIVERIES OR PICKUPS MUST OCCUR BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 9:00 PM UH, SO THAT WORKS AT 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM I THINK YOU NEED TO, SO THAT WAS BOTH THE ACTIVITY AND THE PROCESSING PLUS THE PICKUP AND DROP OFF.
BUT OBVIOUSLY CATTLE MIGHT BE THERE, THERE MIGHT BE SOMEONE OVER THERE OVER OVERSEEING THE CATTLE OVERNIGHT.
NONE OF THAT WOULD BE PROHIBITED BY THOSE HOURS OF OPERATION.
SO THOSE, THOSE, THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESSING OPERATION.
UM, SO AGAIN, THEN, IF STAFF IS GOING OVER THE CONDITIONS HERE, UM, CAPACITY WAS A CONCERN FOR THE BOARD.
UM, FACILITY IS LIMITED TO THE PROCESSING OF NO MORE THAN 100 ANIMALS PER WEEK.
WOULD THAT BE SUFFICIENT? WOULDN'T USE THE TERM HEAD.
HEAD HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT CONNOTATIONS BY THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF ANIMALS.
SO IF Y'ALL HEARD US TALKING, THAT WOULD BE THE THANK YOU MR. CASH.
LET LET THE APPLICANT, I THINK THEY HEARD YOU.
AND LET ME, SO I'M CHRIS MACKENZIE, I'M ATTORNEY WITH SAN ANDERSON, AND, UM, CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THEY'RE IMPOSED CONDITIONS, BUT JUST WANTED TO THINK THEM THROUGH SINCE WE'RE DOING 'EM ON THE FLY A LITTLE BIT.
AND, UM, I DON'T THINK THE HOURS OF OPERATION OF THE FACILITY IS A PROBLEM AT ALL.
I THINK IF ANYTHING, LIKE YOU OBSERVE MR. LUKINS, IT'S ALMOST, YOU KNOW, REPETITIVE OF SD S D A REGULATION.
BUT WHY NOT PUT IT IN HERE IF THERE'S NO HARM, NO FOUL.
UM, THE CONCERN THOUGH THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH THAT WE JUST WANT TO TALK THROUGH IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF FROM A PICKOFF DROPOFF STANDPOINT, THERE'S A DELAY AND AN UNANTICIPATED DELAY, SOMEONE GETS STUCK IN TRAFFIC AND THEY ARE THREE, FOUR HOURS LATE AND THEY SHOW UP AT NINE 30,
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YOU KNOW, IS MR. GAWA GONNA HAVE TO TELL THEM YOU HAVE TO GO DRIVE BACK OR YOU HAVE TO GO PARK SOMEWHERE, WHICH IS WHERE YOU'VE ALREADY STIPULATED THAT YOU WANTED SUPERVISED OVERNIGHT, WAS TO ALLOW FOR THAT ONCE IN A BLUE MOON, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, COULD HAVE, IT'S NOT NORMAL FOR A FARMER TO BASICALLY WANT TO DELIVER THEIR ANIMALS ON AN OFF TIME, BUT YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT ON 64, THAT'S NOT HIS FAULT.THE KEY IS TO GET THE ANIMAL THERE SAFELY IN A TIMELY MANNER AND NOT HAVE UNDUE STRESS.
SO COULD HAVE WELL, WELL IN, IN A SPIRIT OF TRYING TO GET HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT EXCEPT FOR DROPOFFS, YOU KNOW, ALL ACTIVITY EXCEPT FOR DROPOFFS DURING THESE HOURS? YEAH, THAT'S, I MEAN THE, THE U S D A ARE ARE GONNA TELL HIM HIS OPERATING HOURS.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING HE HAS ANY NEGOTIATING FACTORS.
THE U S D A WILL SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HEAR.
BUT I, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN TELL, WE SWEAR TO YOU THAT THAT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT THEY DO.
CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, SO TO KNOW WHERE WE FIND YEAH, NOT A PROBLEM.
AND I'M, SO, I'M, I'M PRETTY, UM, AND I KNOW WHERE YOU WORK.
UM, AND OWN, BUT THE KEY IS THEY A HUNDRED PERCENT WILL INFORM HIM AS TO WHAT HIS HOURS ARE.
WHAT HE CAN DO IS SAY HIS EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, CAN'T BE HERE EARLIER THAN THIS AND LATER THAN THAT, HE CAN'T OPERATE OUTSIDE OF OURS.
WE, WE, WE, AND WE, AND I BELIEVE THAT, BUT I JUST THINK THIS IS, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THE PREMISE THAT WE CAN CONTROL AND, SORRY, SAY I WAS ON HIS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, SO SORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO I THINK IF WE CAN JUST REVISE THAT FIRST CONDITION TO EXCLUDE DROPOFFS, I THINK IT'S WORKABLE.
CAUSE UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S PART OF THE SUPERVISION, UH, SOMEBODY SAID THEY HAVE TO BE THERE TO RECEIVE THE DROPOFFS UNDER THE CONDITION MM-HMM.
UM, SO I GUESS THE, THE QUESTION THAT STAFF WOULD HAVE IS, UM, SO YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT ACTIVITY OF PROCESSING THE ACTIVITY IN THE PROCESSING FACILITY.
SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, PEOPLE THERE AND ACTIVITY, UM, PICKUPS CAN OCCUR BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND NINE AND PICKUPS IS GENERALLY, I'M NOT SURE WHO THE PICKUPS ARE VERSUS DELIVERY.
SO JUST BEING, BEING SURE BECAUSE IF IT'S TRUCK ACTIVITY THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, THAT'S THE ACTIVITY, IT'S, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE DELIVERIES IS THE MOST LIKELY WHERE THEY'RE COMING IN WITH THE ANIMALS.
AND THEN PICK UPS SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT LIKELY THAT, I MEAN, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO JUST THIS, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A PATTERN OF LIKE DOING ALL THE DROP OFFS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
JUST I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS A CONCERN AND, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY GETS HUNG UP IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT OR SOMETHING.
I, I GET CONCERNED IS THE COMPLAINTS, MAKE SURE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COMPLAINTS AND THEN TELL THE DISTINCTION FROM THE CONDITION.
ONE OF THE THINGS IS THIS IS A C P, THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE.
SO IF IT TURNS OUT THAT YOU ARE DOING, DROPPING OFF ALL NIGHT LONG AND U S D DOESN'T STOP YOU, THEN YOU'LL BE BACK.
I DON'T THINK U S D A IS REGULATING THE HOURS OF PICKUP OR I MEAN, DROP OFF.
UM, OKAY, SO THE, THE, SO TO REMOVE THE DROP OFF THE CONDITION WOULD BE HOURS OF OPERATION ACTIVITY IN THE PROCESSING FACILITY.
AND DELIVERIES, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, OR, AND PICKUPS MUST OCCUR BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 9:00 PM SO DELIVERIES COULD HAPPEN TIME.
I THINK THAT WOULD DEFINITELY WORK.
AND THEN THE QUESTION ABOUT CAPACITY, UM, CONDITION.
MR. KE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, SO IF SOMEONE IS DROPPING OFF AT NINE 30 AT NIGHT, GOT STUCK IN TRAFFIC, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THE STORY IS, WHO'S THERE TO OPEN THE GATE FOR 'EM AND LET 'EM IN? WELL, YOU HAVE, IF THE HOURS OPERATIONS WERE SEVEN TO NINE, YOU WOULD HAVE PEOPLE, THESE ARE SCHEDULED DROP OFFS.
YOU, IF YOU WOULD BE IN THE LOOP THE WHOLE TIME KNOWING THEY WOULD COME LATER.
AND THAT'S JUST A SITUATION OF, BUT WE'RE SAYING IT'S OKAY IF YOU'RE LIKE STUCK SOMEWHERE AND YOU GET THERE AT NINE 30.
SO I GUESS YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THEY'RE COMING, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO OPPORTUNITY TO DO SELF DROP OFF.
THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING THERE.
SO, SO THE PERSON WHO'S COMING LATE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR 'EM? YES, MA'AM.
AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE AN ANTICIPATED OVERNIGHT STAY OF CATTLE AND THERE'S A CONDITION THAT SAYS THERE'S OVERNIGHT SUPERVISION REQUIRED.
SO THEY WOULD ALREADY BE, IF THEY'RE ANTICIPATING THE CATTLE'S GONNA BE ARRIVING THAT EVENING, THERE'S GONNA BE OVERNIGHT SUPERVISION, BUT IT ALSO SAYS IT COULD BE ELECTRONIC.
BUT, BUT THEY'RE GONNA SO, SO THEY CAN SEE IT AND THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEND SOMEONE IF THERE ISN'T SOMEONE THERE ALREADY.
BUT IT WE'LL BE IN A LOOP, UM, THE WHOLE TIME.
NO, I MEAN, NO ONE'S JUST GONNA SHOW UP THREE HOURS LATE WITHOUT MAKING ANYONE AWARE OF IT.
WITH A LIVE ANIMAL IN THE BACK.
AND, AND OF THE SECOND PIECE OF THIS, THE, WHAT IS THE, THE CAPACITY AT A HUNDRED PER WEEK? THE, WE COULDN'T DO A HUNDRED PER WEEK IF WE WANTED TO.
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BUT IF WE COULD, YOU'RE OKAY ADDING THAT CONDITION, SO THEN YOU'RE FINE.MR. PETERSON? UH, YEAH, I'VE JUST BEEN PATIENTLY LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION ON HOURS OF OPERATION.
I, THIS IS NOT A RETAIL OPERATION, THIS IS A WHOLESALE OPERATION.
WE TYPICALLY GET IN HOURS OF OPERATIONS FOR RETAIL AND MCDONALD'S WOULD DRIVE THROUGH OR THIS OR THAT.
UM, THIS IS A WHOLESALE OPERATION AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LATE NIGHT DROPOFFS ARE GONNA BE IN MINOR UNDERSTANDING.
I MEAN, I, THE FARMERS, I KNOW THEY GET UP BEFORE THE ROOSTER CROWS.
AND, UM, SO I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION IS, UH, THERE'S MIDPOINTS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
ARE THERE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR MIDPOINT DROPOFFS OR PICKUPS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I MEAN, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL OPERATION THAT IS IN THAT AREA.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE DID THAT FOR ROCKY.
THEY CAN'T DO ALL NIGHT DELIVERIES OR DROPOFFS.
I MEAN, I, ARE WE WANDERING INTO SOME LITTLE DIFFERENT AREA HERE FOR WHOLESALE BUSINESSES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE AN OCCASIONAL, UM, OFF HOUR KIND OF DROP OFF OR PICKUP AS OPPOSED TO A RETAIL? I JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE FOR, FOR SOME THOUGHT AND CONSIDERATION.
MS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR I, I DON'T MISS A CHANCE TO ASK A QUESTION.
LET YOU DO FIVE, FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
THE ONLY THING, I WROTE DOWN A LOT OF QUESTIONS TOO.
THE ONLY THING THAT I DON'T KNOW IS, WAS ADDRESSED.
UM, SOMEONE BROUGHT UP THIS STORAGE LOT WITH THE ROCK DUST PADDOCK.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? IF THAT'S, IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED? OR IS IT YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION TO ROCK DUST? CORRECT.
I THINK, I THINK THE, DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY HAVE COME UP THAT IT'S MAYBE SHOULD BE CONCRETE.
I THINK THE GENTLEMAN WHO, WHO RAISED THE HORSE, I THINK THAT, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
I THINK THE IDEA OF THAT WAS IF IT WAS ON CONCRETE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE IT SEEPING INTO THE GROUND.
UM, AND ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, IF IT IS CONCRETE, IT'S ALL GONNA RUN OFF.
NOTHING'S ABSORBED, NONE OF THAT YEAR ENDS ABSORBED.
SO I THINK ROCK DUST IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT BETTER IN THAT REGARD.
AND I MEAN, AS FAR AS PICKING UP MANURE, ALL MY HORSES AT MY FARM ARE ON ROCK DUST AND I HAVEN'T HAD TOO MANY ISSUES PICKING UP THAT MANURE.
AND I THINK SOMEONE BROUGHT UP, UM, WITH THEIR HORSES, THEY HAD THAT ISSUE, BUT WE'D HAVE TWO EMPLOYEES SPECIFICALLY IN THERE PICKING THAT UP EVERY DAY.
AND IT'S COLLECTED AT THE END OF THE WEEK.
CUZ THERE'S TWO EMPLOYEES THAT ARE IN CHARGE OF PICKING UP AND DROP OFF.
AND ONCE THAT PART OF THEIR DAY IS DONE, THEN THEY SPEND THE REST CLEANING THAT CORRAL.
BOARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? A MOTION? THIS LAST COLETTE.
UM, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME LISTENING TO THE RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO LIVE NEARBY, UH, VERY CONCERNED ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, TRAFFIC, UH, WATER TABLE AND THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES.
AND WE TOOK THOSE CONCERNS VERY SERIOUSLY.
AND I THINK YOU SAW TONIGHT WAS JUST PART OF THE PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE REALLY DR TRIED TO DRILL DOWN AND GET ANSWERS ON THOSE ISSUES.
UM, THIS IS AN OPERATION, I BELIEVE IT'S WELL THOUGHT OUT.
IT IS GOING TO BE SUPER CONTROLLED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, UH, IF ANYONE'S EVER WORKED WITH EPA, D E Q, UM, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NO FUN AND THEY DON'T PLAY GAMES.
SO, UH, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AS WELL, I DO BELIEVE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD DO WHAT THEY WANT TO ON THEIR PROPERTY AS LONG AS THEY DON'T HARM THEIR NEIGHBORS.
AND THERE'S THE QUESTION, ARE WE HARMING NEIGHBORS? AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO FERRET OUT TONIGHT.
I BELIEVE WE'VE GOTTEN THE ANSWERS TO MOST OF THE QUESTIONS.
I THINK ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT, UH, WERE BROUGHT UP BY THE CITIZENS, THE ONLY ISSUE NOT ADDRESSED TONIGHT SPECIFICALLY WAS THE DEVALUATION OF PROPERTY.
AND I KNOW IT ALWAYS COMES UP, UH, BUT I HAVE NOT SEEN IT.
I'VE NOT SEEN IT HAPPEN EVERY TIME THAT IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP.
SO I REALLY HOPE THAT THAT WON'T HAPPEN.
SO BASED ON THAT, UM, I DO MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2 0 22 0 0 14 FOR THE LIMITED MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY AT ZERO
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FREDERICK OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, UM, WITH THE CONDITIONS IN OUR BOARD PACKET, PLUS THE FOLLOWING TWO CONDITIONS.AND THEY WERE WRITTEN OUT WHERE THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND THE NUMBER OF ANIMALS TO BE PROCESSED PER WEEK.
AND MS. MCGEE, YOU MIGHT WANNA REREAD THOSE SO WE'VE GOT 'EM CLEARLY IN THE RECORD.
THE CONDITION NUMBER 14 WOULD BE HOURS OF OPERATION ACTIVITY IN THE PROCESSING FACILITY AND PICKUPS MUST OCCUR BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 9:00 PM AND CONDITION 15 ON CAPACITY FACILITY IS LIMITED TO PROCESSING NO MORE THAN A HUNDRED ANIMALS PER WEEK.
I THINK WE ALSO CLARIFIED IT'S A MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OPERATION
SO COULD WE ADD THAT TO CONDITION 14? UH, I WOULD ADD ACTIVITY IN THE PROCESSING FACILITY AND PICKUPS MUST OCCUR BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND, AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT THERE'S NO DROP OFF ON SUNDAY NIGHT? IT'S PICKUPS? NEVERMIND, NEVERMIND.
RUN BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 9:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
THAT WOULD BE THE AMEND THANK YOU CONDITIONS.
QUICK, QUICKLY SAID I WAS GONNA OFFER A SECOND TO THANK, THANK THE APPLICANT AND I THANK THE CITIZENS FOR SPEAKING.
UM, AND FOR AND AGAINST, UH, THIS IS, WE ARE, MR. LYLE TALKS ABOUT THIS AND HE ALWAYS LOOKS AT ME AND SMILES AND HE SAYS, KEEPING IT RURAL.
I'M ALWAYS DEFIANT, ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT DEFINING RURAL, BUT CLEARLY THIS, THIS IS SUPPORTIVE OF A RURAL BUSINESS, RURAL AGRICULTURE, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, THE EASTERN END OF THE COUNTY AND THE VILLAGE CORE.
UM, I THINK, UH, I'M GLAD TO SEE A BUSINESS COME IN, UH, A MODERN BUSINESS THAT'S, UH, NEEDED, NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY.
I'M, I'M SURE YOU'LL DO WELL AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE GLAND AND, UH, IF THAT INDICATES HOW I'M GONNA VOTE.
UH, SO DO YOU, BUT THAT, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION TONIGHT AND THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
GOT ONE MORE ITEM AND WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM, YOU GUYS.
LET'S JUST TAKE, WE'RE GONNA RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES TO LET FOLKS FILTER OUT.
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DON'T WANT TO LEAVEHOW ARE, WATCH Y'ALL YOUR WORK.
WE ARE UP TO OUR, OUR LAST CASE AND FOR THAT I WILL TURN IT TO OUR WONDERFUL COUNTY ATTORNEY.
[5. 5538: Ordinance amending County Code Chapter 13 (Taxation), Article III (Tax]
I JUST HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU, DISCUSSION OF THE FINAL ORDINANCE AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
AND THAT HAS TO DO PRINCIPALLY WITH AMENDING OUR TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX ORDINANCES TO COM INTO COMPLIANCE WITH CHANGES WITH THE STATE LAW THAT WERE MADE IN THE 2022 GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
AND THEY'LL BE APPLYING TO APPLICATIONS THAT PEOPLE WILL BE PUTTING IN, UH, THE 1ST OF JANUARY.
THEY ACTUALLY MAKE IT EASIER, UM, TO DO THE TRANSIT OCCUPANCY TAX APPLICATION.
AND SO THAT'S, UM, HELPFUL FOR COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHE SEEKS AND SUPPORTS JENNIFER BROWN.
UM, THE OTHER SMALL CHANGE IS THAT THE 2022 GENERAL ASSEMBLY ALLOWED THE OPPORTUNITY FOR APPLICATIONS FOR OUR TAX RELIEF, UM, FOR ELDERLY AND DISABLED PERSONS TO BE FILED, UM, ON A ROLLING BASIS, MEANING THEY CAN NOW BE FILED PRIOR TO JANUARY 1ST OF THE YEAR.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, AGAIN, COMMISSIONER REVENUE ASKED US TO SUPPORT SO THAT SHE HAS A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME TO PROCESS, UM, AND HANDLE THOSE APPLICATIONS.
AND THAT IS THE ITEM BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING FOR, UM, PUBLIC CONSIDERATION IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
BOARD ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? IF NOT, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING
SEE NOBODY I CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, MOTION? UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE, AMENDING COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 13, TO CHANGE THE REAL ESTATE TAX RELIEF AFFIDAVITS SUBMISSION DATE, AND TO ALIGN THE COUNTY'S TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX PROVISIONS WITH 2022 STATE LAW UPDATES AS PRESENTED.
MR. PETERSON, ANY DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL VOTE.
UM, I DIDN'T WANNA JUST TAKE A MOMENT BEFORE WE ADJOURN TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, MS. MICKEY, WE, WE WENT THROUGH A LOT OF STUFF TONIGHT THAT HER TEAM, WORKING WITH STAFF PUT TOGETHER, UM, HOURS AND HOURS AND HOURS.
AND WHILE WE DO GO THROUGH IT QUICKLY, IT'S BECAUSE WE,
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WE'VE GONE THROUGH IT SEVERAL TIMES AND, UM, WE, WE, WE KNOW THAT IT'S RIGHT.SO THANK YOU FOR, FOR DOING THAT.
BOARD, WE ARE, I WILL ADJOURN THIS MEETING TO THE TUESDAY, DECEMBER 13TH, MAN, THAT'S NOT THAT FAR.
1:00 PM BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TRANSPORTATION WORK SESSION.
AND THEN THE TUESDAY, JANUARY 3RD, 2000.
23 12 30 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUDIT, FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING, AND THEN THE TWO, WHICH IS A CHANGE FROM THE REGULAR SCHEDULE.
[XIX. Adjournment: The Board of Supervisors will adjourn as follows:]
WHAT DO YOU CALL THAT? BUSINESS MEETING WILL BE ON THE THIRD AT 2:00 PM FOLLOWING THAT MEETING.AND I'M AN YOU TO GET TOGETHER.
CAN WE GET LIKE THE EXACT TO THE, EVERYBODY WE BOTH RECOGNIZE, READ TO THE CONDITIONS AND THAT THE RESTATING THINGS, THE, THE, THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE ARE VERY CLEAR AS TO THE STAFF.