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I'M SORRY, I HAD TO CUT OUR COMPETITION OFF.
WELL, VERY GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
UM, IT WAS MY PLEASURE TO CALL THE JANUARY 11TH 9:00 AM BOARD OF SUPERVISOR'S JOINT WORK SESSION WITH OUR SCHOOL BOARD TO ORDER.
AND I WILL TURN OVER TO MS. BAREFOOT RE BRING THE SCHOOL BOARD, RICHMOND COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD, JANUARY THE 11TH MEETING ORDER.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT SCHOOL'S, UH, C CIP P SO THAT MATERIAL OVER TO MR. CARPENTER OR MR. UH, JUST, UM, GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.
UH, THE, UM, COUNTY HAS HAD A, A CIP P PLAN FOR, UM, A COUPLE YEARS NOW THAT REALLY GOES 25 YEARS IN THE FUTURE.
IT'S A PLAN THAT IS UPDATED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
UH, IT IS ALSO A PLAN THAT, UH, WE TRY TO MAKE SURE ADDRESSES THE, UH, CURRENT AND LONG-TERM NEEDS OF THE COUNTY, BOTH QUALITY, THE INFRASTRUCTURE AS WELL AS OUR PHYSICAL PLAN, UH, TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THE CIP P IS, UH, A CASE THAT IT'S, UH, PAID TO GO.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE DEDICATED FUNDING FOR CIP P SO ANNUALLY IT'LL ALSO BE BASED ON THE MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE COUNTY IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH IT.
SO, JUST CUZ OF A, UH, PROJECT IS IN THE CIP.
THAT SAID, PROJECT LACKS TO BE FUNDED IN ANY PARTICULAR YEAR.
IT IS ALWAYS GONNA BE CONTINGENT ON THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO THE COUNTY AND THE CURRENT, UH, ENVIRONMENT THAT WE'RE OPERATING IN.
AND SO, UH, HAVING SAID THAT, AND GIVEN MY STANDARD CAUTIONARY, UH,
YEAH, THANK YOU MR. CARPENTER.
GOOD MORNING AGAIN, EVERYBODY.
IT'S, IT'S NICELY TO BE BACK TOGETHER TO POUR OUR, ROLL OUR SLEEVES UP AND TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANT WORK OF OUR COUNTY.
UM, WANT TO AGAIN, PUBLICLY THANK THE SUPERVISORS FOR YOUR LONG ONGOING SUPPORT OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
UH, WITH OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET AND WITH OUR CAPITAL BUDGET.
CERTAINLY WE RECOGNIZE AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE JUST ONE ASPECT OF THE OVERALL COUNTY BUDGET AND THE MULTITUDE OF PRESSURES THAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING, UH, FROM, FROM A, A VARIETY OF FACTORS.
AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE THINGS FROM GENERAL COUNTY GOVERNMENT, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE RESCUE, AND JUST MULTIPLE THINGS NEEDED TO OPERATE OUR COUNTY AND BENEFIT OUR, OUR CITIZENS.
SO IT'S MY GOAL TODAY TO PRESENT TO YOU WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS APPROVED AS THEY'RE, UH, RECOMMENDED.
C I P, UH, FOR THE NEXT 29 YEARS.
GOING TO FOCUS A LOT THE FIRST FIVE YEARS AND SPECIFICALLY NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE KNOW THAT THE CIP P TYPICALLY IS FUNDED ON PAPER IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS AND THEN APPROPRIATED FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
SO REALLY, WE'RE GONNA START BIG AND THEN WORK OUR WAY DOWN TO REALLY WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT AS YOU HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL.
UH, SO THAT BEING SAID, I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO A FEW FOLKS THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT KNOW, UH, CUZ THEY'VE BEEN REALLY HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THE WORK AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PLAN.
AND SO, MR. TODD STEELY IS OUR DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND MAINTENANCE.
AND SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, HIS TEAM IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRESERVING OUR TAXPAYERS INVESTMENT, THAT WE'RE PRESERVING THOSE IMPORTANT FEATURES INSIDE OF OUR SCHOOLS AND OUTSIDE AS WELL.
AND I DARE SAY THAT ANY CITIZENS CAN DRIVE THROUGH OUR SCHOOL CAMPUSES AND, AND LOOK AROUND WITH PRIDE OF WHAT WE HAVE, REALLY WORK HARD TO MAINTAIN INSIDE AND OUTSIDE SO THAT THESE BUILDINGS ARE AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
AND, UH, MS. ROSIE HOLMAN IS OUR DIRECTOR OF TRANSPORTATION.
AND SO AS WE GET INTO THE TRANSPORTATION, I WANTED HER TO BE AVAILABLE IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS RELATED TO THAT REALLY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF OUR OPERATIONS.
UM, SO I'LL SET THE AGENDA, UH, FOR TODAY.
UH, REALLY WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST UNPACK OUR THINKING A LITTLE BIT AND TALK ABOUT THE SCHOOL BOARD'S PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH TO OUR WORK, AND THEN GET INTO SOME PROJECT SPECIFICS.
LET YOU KNOW, UH, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN THE NEW
AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AT THE END.
GO THROUGH THE WORK TODAY, HAVE A CONVERSATION.
THIS IS A WORK SESSION, SO WE WANT TO CERTAINLY WORK TOGETHER AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AS YOU MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS IN THE COMING MONTHS.
SO, UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD A 30 YEAR C I P.
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DIDN'T RENEW THAT 30TH YEAR.WE JUST KEPT IT AT A 29 C 29 YEAR CIP P ULTIMATELY KNOWING THAT THE COUNTY IS WORKING ON A 25 YEAR TIMEFRAME.
SO, UH, WE HAVE AN APPROVED 29 YEAR CIP P OF COURSE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD ON DECEMBER THE 13TH.
AND SO REFERENCING THE NEED FOR SUSTAINABLE FACILITIES AND PRESERVING THE TAXPAYERS INVESTMENT IN THE FACILITIES THAT WE HAVE IS REFERENCED IN OUR SCHOOL BOARD STRATEGIC PLAN THAT THEY ADOPTED IN 2019 IS A LIVING BREEDING DOCUMENT FOR US AND IS WORKING, UH, TOGETHER OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS UNTIL WE GET TO 2026, WHICH YOU CAN SEE SOME DIFFERENT GOALS AND OBJECTIVES RELATED TO WHAT WE FEEL IS IMPORTANT IN THE MANAGEMENT OF THESE FACILITIES.
THAT'S EXPLICITLY REFERENCED IN THAT STRATEGIC PLAN.
THOSE PERCEPTIONS THAT WERE REFERENCED IN OUR THIRD GOAL AREA THERE RELATED TO FLEXIBLE LEARNING SPACES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAINTAINING OUR FACILITIES AND PROVIDING A SAFE ENVIRONMENT AT ALL TIMES.
SO PHILOSOPHICALLY, AS WE BUILT THIS, ULTIMATELY THIS IS A NEEDS-BASED APPROACH, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE WANTED TO ARTICULATE THE SCHOOL DIVISION'S NEEDS TODAY AND THE LONG-TERM NEEDS OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
AND RECOGNIZING THAT THESE FACILITIES ARE MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE IN OUR OVERALL COMMUNITY.
THEY ARE THE ENTERTAINMENT AND CULTURAL HUBS OF OUR FACILITY.
AND ULTIMATELY WHERE THOUSANDS OF OCCUPANTS GO TO LIVE AND WORK AND PARTICIPATE IN, IN THEIR ACADEMIC PROGRAM EVERY DAY.
UH, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WHAT WE WANT TO DO, AND THIS IS REFERENCED IN PAST CONVERSATIONS IN THE LAST SEVEN TO 10 DAYS, IS WE WANT TO LEARN FROM OUR PAST EXPERIENCES, LEARN FROM WHAT WE, UH, HAVE WORKED THROUGH TOGETHER REGARDING THE DESIGN OF THE NEW GUCCI ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE INFLATIONARY FACTORS THAT WENT INTO THAT, UH, THE MANAGEMENT OF THE PROJECTS AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED PUBLICLY, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST 12, 12 MONTHS.
HONESTLY, LEARN FROM HISTORY RELATED TO THE MULTITUDE OF FACTORS THAT INFLUENCE CAPITAL PLANNING AND MODERNIZE AND UPDATE ALL OF OUR PRICING MODELS.
SO WE REFLECT THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST GIVEN WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM IN THE PAST, UH, AND THEN ULTIMATELY PROVIDE THE FULL COST OF THE PROJECT AS WE KNOW IT TODAY.
UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THESE PRICING MODELS IS WE INFLATED FY 22 30% AND THEN FUTURE YEARS WE INFLATED 5%.
OF COURSE THERE ARE MANY UNKNOWNS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT IT'S PROBABLY A, A FAIR FIGURE TO USE.
UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES.
WE'VE FACTORED IN PROJECT MANAGEMENT, WE'VE FACTORED IN LAND ACQUISITION, WE HAVE FACTORED IN POTENTIAL DEMOLITION OR RENOVATION OF EXISTING FACILITIES.
SO WE HAVE TRIED TO LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THIS FACILITY IN THE FUTURE AND TRYING TO FORECAST ALL OF THAT.
MUCH OF THIS IS BASED ON THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVED THIS TIME LAST YEAR FROM AN ENGINEERING FIRM CALLED DEWBERRY.
WE CONTRACTED WITH THEM AND SAID, HELP US DETERMINE A LOGICAL PLAN FOR THE NEXT 29 YEARS FOR FACILITIES.
WHAT IS AN IMMEDIATE NEED OF REPAIR? WHAT CAN WAIT GIVEN YOUR PROFESSIONAL OPINION? WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE FACTORS THAT WE NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR? THEY STARTED WITH THE PRICING MODEL AND WE'VE UPDATED, UPDATED IT.
GIVEN WHAT WE'VE LEARNED OVER THE PAST.
UM, STAFF HASN'T JUST TAKEN WHAT DEWBERRY SAID AND SAID, OKAY, LET'S PUT IT IN CIP P AND PRESENT IT TO THE SCHOOL BOARD.
WE TOOK THAT ANALYSIS, WE SAID, AH, YOU KNOW WHAT? I THINK THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS AROUND A LITTLE BIT OR I THINK WE CAN DO THAT OURSELVES AND SAVE SOME MONEY.
AND SO MR. STEELY AND HIS TEAM HAVE WORKED WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BEST PLAN FOR THE SCHOOL BOARD AND ULTIMATELY OUR COUNTY MOVING FORWARD.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PHILOSOPHICAL APPROACH AND, UH, REALLY CONFIDENT, UH, IN, IN WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
ALRIGHT, SO AGAIN, IT'S 29 SOME GEAR CIP P AND WHOLE LOT OF NUMBERS ON THAT SPREADSHEET AND MAY BE HARD TO SEE.
BUT ULTIMATELY LOOKING AT THE LONG TERM CAPITAL NEEDS OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION AND THE COMMUNITY WELL INTO 2052.
UH, SO NARROWING IT DOWN INTO THE TO 10 YEARS, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE AND SOME OF THE NUMBERS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
UH, CERTAINLY THE 10 YEAR LOOK IS A LITTLE MORE REALISTIC.
UH, LOOKING AT 29 YEARS IS TOUGH, BUT 10 YEARS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE CAN MAYBE COME WRAP OUR HANDS AROUND THAT A LITTLE BIT.
BUT ULTIMATELY THE FIVE YEAR CIP P IS WHAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON MOSTLY.
AND AGAIN, IT'S FIVE YEAR FUNDED ON PAPER, ONE YEAR APPROPRIATED.
AND OUR FOCUS FOR TODAY IS REALLY ON F 5 24 CUZ THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH TOGETHER IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS BEFORE IMPROVE IN APRIL.
SO I WANT TO DIG IN ON EVERY PROJECT, NOT GET REALLY DOWN INTO THE WEEDS.
WE GIVE YOU A KIND OF A, A GLOBAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE PROJECTS ARE, WHERE WE SEE THE PRIORITIES AS YOU CONSIDER, WHICH WOULD LIKE TO DO IN THE FUTURE.
BERD, AS WE KNOW, WAS BUILT IN, UH, THE 1960S.
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IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, AN AGING, AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.UH, WHAT I'VE DONE HERE, BOARD MEMBERS IS LISTED OUT EVERY YEAR IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
BUT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION JUST TO DRAW YOUR EYES TO WHAT WE HAVE, UM, TALKED ABOUT FOR FY 24.
AND SO AT VER WHAT WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS $50,000 A YEAR IN A GENERAL MAINTENANCE POOL.
THAT'S FOR PAINTING, THAT'S FOR CARPET, THAT'S FOR JUST, UM, THE COSMETICS ASSOCIATED WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT FACILITY.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE $25,000 ASSOCIATED WITH SECURITY AND TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE, JUST ONGOING REFRESHMENT AND ONGOING, UH, MODERNIZATION OF OUR SECURITY INITIATIVES AS WELL AS TECHNOLOGY AND INITIATIVES.
AND SO AS YOU CAN SEE AT BIRD, REALLY THE PRIORITY FOR US IS IN THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR, IS REPLACING ALL THE ELECTRICAL PANELS, SWITCHES, SWITCH GEAR, ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN THE MECHANICAL ROOM, CUZ THAT DATES BACK TO THE ORIGINAL PART OF THE BUILDING.
AND SO, AS WE KNOW THAT, THAT CERTAINLY HAS AGED OVER TIME AND, UM, THAT'S USED DAILY.
AND SO WE WANT TO, UH, WE'RE FORECASTING THE NEED TO REPLACE THAT ELECTRICAL SWITCH GEAR.
CERTAINLY THAT'S GONNA GIVE US PEACE OF MIND WITH THE OCCUPANTS THAT WE HAVE IN THAT BUILDING.
YOU CAN SEE THE COST OF THAT BEING $231,000 LOOKING OUT INTO THE FUTURE AT BY, UH, WE HAVE A NEED IN TWO FISCAL YEARS TO REPLACE THE ROOF OF THE 1997 BUILDING.
AND YOU CAN DO THE MATH AND SEE THAT TYPICAL REPLACEMENT SCHEDULES, YOU KNOW, THAT ALIGNS WITH WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT FOR A ROOF REPLACEMENT.
AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT A WHOLE LOT IS THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A CONTINUAL REPLACEMENT OF OUR FOOD SERVICE EQUIPMENT, THE WARMERS, THE DISHWASHERS, THE SERVERY EQUIPMENT, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PROVIDING HEALTH AND SAFE, SAFE, HEALTHY AND SAFE MEALS TO OUR STUDENTS.
SO A FEW YEARS OUT, SOME, SOME CAFETERIA EQUIPMENT, AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE SOME MORE ROOFING REPLACEMENT IN FUTURE GEARS.
AND WE HAVE SOME WINDOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST FAIL OVER TIME.
THE GASKETS GET WORN OUT AND YOU GET ARC PIGEON AND THEY, THEY CLOUD UP AND JUST DON'T LOOK REAL GOOD.
WALK IN COOLER FOR FOOD SERVICE, UH, FURNITURE, REFRESHING A FUTURE YEAR.
AND THEN IF YOU GO TO BIRD AND YOU WALK THROUGH THE MAIN PART OF THE BUILDING, THE, THE BATHROOMS ARE THERE FROM WHERE THE SCHOOL WAS BUILT.
SO YOU CAN DEFINITELY COME THERE QUITE A, SO SEEKING A, A RENOVATION OF THOSE BATHROOMS IN THE FUTURE YEARS.
AND THEN THE GYM FLOOR, WHICH I THINK THAT WAS A 2011 CONSTRUCTION.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING UP TO THE POINT IN TIME WHERE WE NEED TO REFRESH THAT GYM FLOOR AND REPAINT IT, MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS A SAFE SERVICE, SAFE SURFACE, AND THEN UPGRADING THE LIGHTING.
AND THEN AN FY 28, INCREASING THAT SECURITY AND GENERAL MAINTENANCE POOL JUST A LITTLE BIT TO FACTOR IN FOR ADDITIONAL COST CONTINUALLY UPGRADING LIGHTING.
AND TODAY WHEN I TALK ABOUT UPGRADING LIGHTING, TYPICALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING FROM INCANDESCENT TO L E D, WHICH ULTIMATELY WILL BE AN UPFRONT CAPITAL, CAPITAL COST FOR THE SALE DOWN THE WRONG DOWN THE LINE WHEN IT COMES TO OPERATIONAL COSTS.
AND THEN ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS, I BELIEVE IN FUTURE YEARS, WE'RE LOOKING AT A FIRE ALARM CABLE UPGRADE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE BEST TECHNOLOGY TO DIAL OUT TO 9 1 1, MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET A QUICKER RESPONSE, HEAVEN FORBID THERE'S ANY SORT OF, UH, SAFETY OR SECURITY ISSUES THERE AT THE SCHOOL.
SO PAUSE THERE FOR A MOMENT AND SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FIRST FIVE YEARS FOR BURKE.
I'LL KICK US OFF WITH JUST A GENERAL SORT OF PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION.
SO WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME, DR.
ELLIOTS, AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS, SO THANK YOU.
UM, BUT TO KNOW WHAT COSTS WILL, I DON'T WANNA SAY BE THROWN AWAY, BUT LIKE YOU HAVE NEW LIGHTING, SO MAYBE BACK UP A, A STEP TO TALK ABOUT IS THAT BUILDING GONNA GET TORN DOWN? ARE WE GONNA PUT FOR THE NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OR WAS THAT TOO FAR OUT TO KNOW WHICH OF THESE COSTS ARE WE NOT, ONCE THE NEW BUILDING IS GONNA BE ESTABLISHED, WE WILL BE LOST.
YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
AND ACTUALLY, MR. SPIN HOWARD, I HAD IT IN MY NOTES AND I I WANTED TO DO THAT ON THE 29 YEAR VIEW.
SO LET'S GO THERE FOR A SECOND.
AND THE 29 YEAR VIEW, UM, RIGHT NOW SCHOOL DIVISION HAS PURCHASING LAND FOR THE NEW BIRD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN 2032 AND NEW CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW BIRD IN 2034.
SO ESSENTIALLY IF WE STAY ON THAT PACE, THAT'S WHAT WAS GOING TO BE AROUND FOR WHAT, ANOTHER 13 YEARS OR SO YOU THINK ABOUT THE TWO YEAR CONSTRUCTION WINDOW.
SO ANYWAY, THESE, THESE COSTS WOULD BE INCURRED NOW TO GET US TO THAT WINDOW WHERE WE WOULD HAVE ULTIMATELY, UH, A NEW SCHOOL.
NO, NOTHING BEING TORN DOWN HERE.
THIS IS ALL RENOVATION AND JUST MODERNIZATION OF, OF EXISTING EQUIPMENT.
UM, AND THEN WHEN WE GET TO RANDOLPH, I'LL TALK ABOUT WHERE THE IS FOR THAT.
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THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DOES.SO IF I'M LOOKING THIS, SO WE HAVE, UH, $340,000 FIRE ALARM PANEL AND A ALMOST $200,000 IN LIGHTING, BUT THEN THERE'LL BE A NEW SCHOOL SIX YEARS FROM THAT 2026.
SO ABOUT EIGHT YEARS PROBABLY.
IF WE START CONSTRUCTION IN 34, YOU OH, START CONSTRUCTION 34.
YEAH, YOU PROBABLY OPEN IN 36.
AND DOES THE C I P INCLUDE ANY MONEYS GOING TOWARDS THE NEW SCHOOL? LIKE AT THE, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WE, HEY, WE TOOK $500,000 AND TO PUT IT TOWARDS THE EL LIKE THE PURCHASE OF THE LAND AND THINGS LIKE THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? NO, SIR.
BOARD NUMBERS, ANYTHING THAT I MAY HAVE MISSED? OKAY, SO IT'S A NICE TRANSITION TO RANDOLPH.
RANDOLPH IS THE, THE COURSE BERGEN RANDOLPH WILL BUILD AT THE SAME TIME, RIGHT? AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT AS A TEAM IS WE WANT TO AVOID REPLACING THINGS AT THE SAME TIME, UH, BE IT SCHOOL PLUSES OR LIKE WE WANT, WE WANTED A REALLY LOGICAL AND STRATEGIC REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE AND CERTAINLY RELATED TO BUILDINGS, AND WE DON'T WANNA REPLACE ALL YOUR BUILDINGS AT THE SAME TIME.
SO, UH, THE SCHOOL BOARD IN ITS 29 YEAR PLAN HAS A REPLACEMENT OF RANDOLPH WITH PURCHASING LAND IN 2035 AND CONSTRUCTION BEGINNING IN 2038, WHICH YOU WOULD ASSUME WOULD BE AN OPENING IN 2040.
SO RANDOLPH NEEDS TO GET US SEVERAL YEARS DOWN THE ROAD.
THAT'S A LONG TIME UNTIL THAT'S, WE PROJECTED IN BEING.
SO WE CERTAINLY NEED TO INVEST NOW TO GET IT TO AT LEAST 2040.
UM, SO AGAIN, LIKE BURKE, WE HAVE $50,000 PER YEAR RECOMMENDED FOR A GENERAL MAINTENANCE POOL.
AND AGAIN, THE SAME $25,000 PER TECHNOLOGY AND SECURITY.
AND YOU SEE HERE IN FY 24, THE SAME THING RELATED TO ELECTRICAL PANELS, SWITCHES IN THE TRANSPORT 1958 SECTION OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN HERE'S WHERE WE START TO UPGRADE LIGHTING.
WE START TO REPLACE THAT INCANDESCENT LIGHTING WITH, UH, L E D LIGHTING.
AND RATHER THAN DOING THAT IN JUST ONE YEAR, UH, FROM A PROJECT MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT AND ULTIMATELY TAKING THOSE DOLLARS AND SPREADING THEM OUT OVER SEVERAL YEARS, IT'S A THREE YEAR PLAN TO REPLACE ALL THE LIGHTING EVERY AND GOLF OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT THREE YEARS.
UH, YOU GO TO RANDOLPH, THE PLAYGROUNDS NEED SOME ATTENTION.
UH, THEY HAVE A KICKBALL FIELD THERE, THEY HAVE JUST A GENERAL PLAY AREA THAT'S NOTHING BUT DIRT.
AND SO IN TIME WE NEED TO REFRESH THOSE PLAYING AREAS AGAIN, RENOVATE THE BATHROOMS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL ORIGINAL TO THE SCHOOL ROOF REPLACEMENT AND FY 26.
AND THEN AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REPLACING CAFETERIA EQUIPMENT.
AND THE HIGHLIGHT HERE IS RATHER THAN DOING THAT IN ONE YEAR, DOING THAT OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS, JUST TO SPREAD THOSE COSTS OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME, FURNITURE REFRESHED IN 26, ROOF REPLACEMENT IN 19, UH, TO THE 1977 EDITION.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE'RE GETTING 30 YEARS OUT OF THAT ROOF.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME REPLACEMENT WINDOWS IN 28.
AGAIN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SAME FIRE ALARM PANEL UPGRADE AND THAT SAME YEAR, AND THEN AN INCREASE IN THAT MAINTENANCE POOL JUST AS A RESULT OF INCREASED COST OVER TIME.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TALK AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL REGARDING CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE GRANTS AND THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT HOW WE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE.
UM, ALSO WE KNOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY GRANTS.
AND SO AS TIME PROGRESSES, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY WILL CHANGE WHO'S ELIGIBLE OR NOT.
WE CAN'T SAY, BUT I WILL SAY THAT STAFF WILL ALWAYS BE WATCHING FOR THOSE AND ALWAYS APPLY FOR WHATEVER WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR.
SO YOU SEE SOME OF THESE NUMBERS WITH TECHNOLOGY AND WE KNOW THAT THERE SOME, SOMETIMES WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE THAT WE, THERE IS A GRANT THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC TO THE NEED BECAUSE GRANTS ARE VERY SPECIFIC.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE, OH, HERE'S FOR TECHNOLOGY, RIGHT? IT'S GOING TO BE FOR PARTICULAR EQUIPMENT.
SO I WILL SAY THAT THE UM, SCHOOL DIVISION STAFF WAS VERY PROACTIVE ON SEEKING WHATEVER FUNDING, UH, ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO, I ASK YOU, UM, WITHOUT HAVING THIS DOCUMENT FOR ME TO PUT BACK AND FORTH.
SO, UH, NUMBER ONE, YES MA'AM.
IT WOULD BE NICE TO PASS SO WE COULD HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
WOULD YOU GO BACK TO, I MEAN YES, MA'AM, FROM THERE? SURE.
SO I WANNA COMPARE BIRD AND RANDOLPH IN THE 24 YEAR.
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SO YOU'RE SAYING GENTLE MAINTENANCE 50 A YEAR, SO THAT'S 50 IT'S GONNA BE AT EVERY YEAR THEREAFTER, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.SO I DON'T SEE ANY 25, 26 NOW.
I DON'T SEE ANY SUBSEQUENT YEARS.
YEAH, THIS IS NOT EXPLICITLY LISTED, BUT IT, IT IS THERE IN THE FORECAST PROJECTIONS OF $50,000 PER YEAR AND $25,000 PER YEAR FOR THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED.
SO I, I COULD HAVE LISTED THEM IN 26, PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE IN HINDSIGHT.
BUT BUT ON THE PLAN THERE'S $50,000, $75,000 TOTAL FOR THOSE TWO ITEMS IN EVERY YEAR.
AND SO SOR HAS REPLACED THE ELECTRICAL GALLONS AND SWITCHES FOR 2 31.
NOW RANDOLPH IS WHAT, BIT HIGHER? A LITTLE BIT MORE, LITTLE LARGER FOOTPRINT? LITTLE BIT.
AND SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY LIGHTING CONTROLS VERSUS THE LIGHTING? YES, IT'S THE ACTUAL L E D BULBS TRANSITIONING FROM INCANDESCENT TO L E D AND THEN IT'S OCCUPANCY SENSORS AND SPACES SO THAT WE CAN SAVE, UH, ELECTRICITY, UH, WHEN SPACE IS NOT OCCUPIED.
IS THAT IS ACCURATE, MR. STEEL? YES.
SO WE'RE NOT DOING LIGHTING CONTROL.
WE'RE ONLY DOING AT RANDOLPH, WE'RE DOING A AT WORK, BUT A LITTLE BIT LATER WE'RE DOING, UH, DOWN INTO 28TH.
ELLIOT, UH, QUESTION OF THE TWO SCHOOLS WHERE YOU HAVE THE GENERAL MAINTENANCE IP SECURITY OF 1520 5,000, UH, THERE'S ALSO AN OPERATIONAL BUDGET MAINTENANCE AS WELL.
WHAT'S THE THRESHOLD THAT WOULD NOT BE AN OPERATIONAL EXPENSE, BUT RATHER A CIP P EXPENSE? WHY IS THERE TWO DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE EACH EACH YEAR? YEAH, SO TYPICALLY IF YOU USE THIS POOL, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S OVER $5,000 COST THAT WOULD EXCEED THAT THRESHOLD OF $5,000.
AND, AND HONESTLY AND TRANSPARENCY, THAT'S THE CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST IS, ARE SOME OF THESE EXPENSES TRULY CAPITAL OR ARE THEY OPERATIONAL THAT HAS COME UP WITH SCHOOL BUSES IN THE PAST? HONESTLY, SO, CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THAT WOULD STOP YOU FROM USING OPERATIONAL FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND, AND WE'LL USE OPERATIONAL FUNDS AND THIS TO ACCOMPLISH, YOU KNOW, THE THE MAINTENANCE NEEDS OF THIS, OF THE SPACE.
SO YOUR BUDGETS WILL REFLECT, LIKE IN THE 24 YEAR, YOUR BUDGET WILL REFLECT WHAT WOULD GO TOWARDS THIS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH.
SO TH THIS IS, THESE FUNDS ARE, THEY'RE IN THE CAPITAL, CAPITAL BUDGET.
UH, AND, AND WE HAVE LISTED THEM OUT BY SCHOOL BECAUSE THAT HAS BEEN REQUEST THAT THE ADMINISTRATION IN THE PAST, ULTIMATELY THOSE DOLLARS GO INTO A, A LARGER BUCKET.
AND WE MAY, WE MAY USE $65,000 AT BIRD, BUT WE MAY USE $35,000 AT RANDOLPH, YOU KNOW, BUT RIGHT, RIGHT.
YOU KIND OF JUST AS YOU SEE, YES, MA'AM.
BUT, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY THE QUESTION.
THE QUESTION IS TO MR. CARPENTER.
SO HOW, HOW DO WE KNOW YOU'RE SAYING YOU COULD USE SOME OF YOUR OPERATION MAINTENANCE MONEY FOR THIS? SO HOW DO WE KNOW IS HOW, HOW DO YOU THAT? CAN I EXPLAIN? SURE, YEAH.
SO JUST TO SHOW SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN SPENT OUT THIS YEAR IN, UM, WELL, WE'VE BEEN REPLACING, UM, THE HVAC DRIVES, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE OVER 5,000 WE'LL BE CAPITALIZING THESE EXPENSES.
UM, THE HALL, THE, THE PAINTINGS ARE GENERALLY LARGE PAINTING PROJECTS.
SO ALL THE HALLWAYS IN A SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S NOT THE TOUCH UP PAINTING, RIGHT? THAT, SO THAT'S, THAT OCCURS IN THE, THE MAINTENANCE BUDGET.
UM, WE HAVE A HEAT PUMP REPLACEMENT, UM, AT, UH, GES, WE HAVE, UM, LOCKER ROOM VENTILATION PROJECTS.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CURRENTLY UPGRADING THIS, UM, UNDERNEATH THE STADIUM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
AND WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE THESE? SO THESE CIP P OR THESE, THESE ARE IN THE POOL.
THIS IS COMING OUT OF THAT POOL.
THE CIP P NOT OPERATING, RIGHT? YES.
WE HAVE, WE HAD 87 WINDOWS REPLACED AT BIRD 58 WINDOWS REPLACED AT RANDOLPH.
AND YOU CAN SEE WE STILL HAVE MORE WINDOWS TO BE REPLACED.
THOSE ARE ALL ORIGINAL WINDOWS.
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THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AROUND THE SCHOOLS.ALMOST ALL OF THESE PROJECTS WILL EVENTUALLY BE CAPITALIZED, BUT SOME OF THEM LIKE PAINTING DON'T BECAUSE, UM, SO, SO THE DIFFERENTIAL ALLOW, YOU KNOW, FIXING A DOORKNOB THAT'S GONNA COME OUTTA THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET, UH, YOU HAVE REPLACE A FIXTURE HERE THERE THAT'S GONNA COME OUTTA THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
THIS POOLS USED FOR THOSE THINGS ARE A LITTLE BIT LARGER IN SCOPE.
SO IN THE GENERAL CONTEXT OF, SAY THE C I P ARE THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE, UM, LIKE CRITICAL MAINTENANCE, LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE HVAC SYSTEM, SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS, IS FAIRLY CRITICAL AND HVAC GOES DOWN THAT HAS CONSEQUENCES IF A COOLER GOES DOWN THAT HAS CONS OR ARE THESE MORE, UM, JUST GENERAL THINGS THAT, WELL, IT'S NICE, WE GOT THE MONEY, WE'RE GONNA SPEND IT, OR THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO SPEND? YEAH, THEY, THEY ARE, THEY ARE GENERAL NEEDS, BUT THEY ARE NOT AS MISSION CRITICAL AS SOME OF YOUR BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE, H V A C, ELECTRICAL SWITCHES, THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO YES, THEY'RE NEEDED, BUT NOT, MAYBE NOT AS MISSION CRITICAL AS SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS.
GRETCHEN, CONTINUE, IT'S GOOD IF YOU CAN GO TO THE RANDOLPH, UH, SLIDE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR THOUGHT BEHIND A THREE YEAR PLAN, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT GETTING DOZENS, POTENTIALLY AON OUT THERE TO DO THE WORK AND SAYING THEY WANT YOU HERE 2026, THEY WANT YOU HERE IN 20 27, 20 28, I, I DON'T KNOW.
EVEN THOUGH WE CAN SPREAD IT OUT, I, WE HAVE TO BE LOSING EFFICIENCIES IN DOING SO.
AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE THOUGHT GOING IN THERE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE THINGS I LOOK AT, AND EXCUSE ME FOR THE STUDENT QUESTION, BUT WE DO WANT TO SUPPORT TRADES AND GETTING, YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR STUDENTS AND THAT, HAS THERE BEEN ANY THOUGHT, AND I'M NOT SAYING USE OUR STUDENTS TO PREPARE OUR SCHOOLS, BUT I I SAY IF YOU GET A GET HUNDRED HOURS, IF YOU GET A HUNDRED HOURS WORKING ON A, I'M JUST, HAS IT EVER BEEN LOOKED AT? I'M, I'M NOT, PLEASE DON'T PUT ME ON RECORD SAYING LET'S GET THESE KIDS TO WORK
UM, BUT I I I, I LOOK AT A LOT OF THESE THINGS AND I GO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I, I BOUGHT A HAT THE OTHER DAY THAT SAYS SUPPORT OUR TRADES.
LIKE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO.
AND I LOOK AT A LOT OF THESE THINGS AND GO, WOW, THAT'S JUST A LEARNING LAB.
I MEAN, I, I, YEAH, THERE, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE LEVERAGED THE TALENTS OF OUR CTE STUDENTS TO SUPPORT THE OPERATIONS OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
UH, YOU KNOW, MR. STEELY COLLABORATES WITH TIM GREENWAY, WHO RUNS OUR, UM, BUILDING TRADES PROGRAM FREQUENTLY TO SAY, HEY, IS THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLABORATION HERE? UH, WE DID, UH, SOME BOOKCASES AT THE HIGH SCHOOL.
UH, WE USED TO HAVE A FURNITURE PROGRAM WHERE KIDS CAN COME IN IN THE SUMMER AND BUILD FURNITURE.
AND RATHER THAN US GOING TO A VENDOR, WE MADE OUR OWN FURNITURE, WHICH IS GREAT.
WE'VE, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT, BUT THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEEK THAT.
IT'S ON THE JOB TRAINING FOR OUR KIDS, RIGHT.
IF WE CAN SAVE A FEW DOLLARS ALONG THE WAY, LET'S MAKE IT HAPPEN.
OH, BUT TO THE THREE YEAR PLAN QUESTION.
SO THIS IS THE THREE YEAR PLAN, AND, AND I'M, IT'S INTERESTING YOU BROUGHT THAT UP BECAUSE THE BOARD STRUGGLED WITH THIS A LITTLE BIT LAST NIGHT BECAUSE WE, WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT H V A C NEEDS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, AND WE HAVE A NEED TO REPLACE ALL THE UNITS THAT ARE IN THE CEILINGS OF EVERY CLASSROOM AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THE EIGHTH GRADE WING AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL BUILT AROUND THE SAME TIME.
WE WENT OUT TO BID AND RECEIVED PRICING ON ALL OF THAT PROJECT.
WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THAT PROJECT BECAUSE OF THE EFFICIENCIES AND IT INVOLVED BUYING THE EQUIPMENT NOW HAVING THE VENDOR STORED IN A WAREHOUSE UNTIL WHAT'S TIME THE VENDOR COULD, COULD INSTALL THE EQUIPMENT.
BUT AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE ONLY HAVE THE APPROPRIATION TO DO 81 OF THOSE UNITS.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, BUT ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE FUNDS TO MAKE THE ENTIRE PROJECT HAPPEN.
WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE IS JUST A RECOGNITION THAT THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF NEEDS IN THE COUNTY, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO, BUT, BUT OPEN THE CONVERSATION IF, IF, SO THAT WAS PART OF OUR THOUGHT.
CAN I ADD JUST ONE THING? SURE.
UM, FRANKLY, WE LEARNED FROM THAT BECAUSE, UM, WE HAD, WE WANTED THE SAME VENDOR TO DO BOTH BASES OF THAT PROJECT AND WE COULD ONLY APPROPRIATE WHAT WE HAD ON HAND, WHICH WAS THE PHASE ONE.
SO FOR THESE THESE, UH, LIGHTING CONTROL PROJECTS, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A RENEWAL.
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SO WE CAN USE THE ONE PROCUREMENT AND ALLOW ONE VENDOR.WE, WE CAN, IT WON'T BE AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL IF THE VENDOR DOESN'T WORK, WE COULD GO OUT AND, AND SEEK IT FOR THE SECOND ONE.
BUT WE CAN RENEW, UM, ADD, ADD AN ALLOWED RATE SO THEY CAN BUDGET OUR PROJECT OVER THERE, PLAN AS WELL.
UM, THERE, THERE WOULD BE A, THERE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A COST ESCALATOR ON EACH RENEWAL.
EARLIER WE, WE TOUCHED ON, IF I HEARD CORRECTLY, WE'VE GOT, WE'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE NEW LAND LAND FOR RANDOLPH AND FOR BIRD.
UM, 2032 IS GONNA BE HERE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.
UM, WHAT'S, WHAT IS THE PLAN TO START SAVING FOR THAT LAND? OR ARE WE LOOKING AT ANOTHER BOND? WHAT'S THE, HOW ARE YOU, HOW ARE YOU GONNA BUY THAT LAND? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE WORK THAT WE DO TOGETHER.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD IN THE PAST HAD HAD THE VISION TO SET ASIDE $500,000, WHICH ULTIMATELY CONTRIBUTED TO THE BOTTOM LINE.
AND I GUESS THAT'S WORK, THE DECISION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE.
WHAT JUST SEEMS ODD TO ME THAT WE'RE PLANNING TO BUILD, WE'RE GETTING THE BILL.
WE HAD NO PLACE TO PUT THEM IN ORDER OR SETTING ANY MONEY ASIDE TO BUY THAT.
LET, LET ME CHIME IN BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE SAME QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT SETTING ASIDE AND IT'S NOT IN THE CIP P I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER BEEN IN THE SCHOOL BOARD SIDE, BUT WE DO PUT IT ON OUR SIDE.
SO IS LATER IN YOUR PRESENTATION, DO YOU HAVE THE, THE DATES AND THE TIMES AND THE MONEY PROJECTIONS FOR LAND ACQUISITION AND BUILDING ACQUISITION? I, I, I DON'T HAVE IT IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT I CAN GIVE IT TO YOU NOW.
I HAVE RIGHT HERE MY FINGERTIPS TO THAT'S FINE.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'LL REMEMBER, BUT I KNOW OUR FINANCE STAFF WILL BE LOOKING AT THAT CLOSELY.
AND THAT'S PART OF OUR NE NEIL THAT HAS BEEN, PART OF THAT HAS BEEN PART OF OUR DISCUSSION IN THE PAST IS, YOU KNOW, SEEING THAT OUT THERE LAND ACQUISITION AND, AND BUILDING ACQUISITION.
AND WE'VE BEEN SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA SET HALF A MILLION A YEAR INTO THAT, INTO THAT BUCKET.
I THINK THAT'S MORE HAPPENS ON OUR SIDE, BUT WE OBVIOUSLY NEED THE INFORMATION FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD AS TO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR US TO ACCOMPLISH.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN THE PRESENTATION, IF I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING CORRECTLY, IS A SPREADSHEET THAT REFLECTS ALL THOSE NUMBERS.
THOSE NUMBERS DON'T HAVE THE NARRATIVE THAT SAYS THIS NUMBER RIGHT HERE IS EXACTLY FOR LAND ACQUISITION OR SOME OF THAT.
IT MAY, IT MAY BE SPELLED OUT IN SOME INSTANCES, BUT THERE MAY BE THINGS WHERE NUMBERS ARE AGGREGATED CAN GET OH, I'M SURE.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE DIDN'T COME TOTALLY UNPREPARED.
IT JUST, YOU'RE YOU'RE ASKING FOR SOME NARRATIVE IN NUMBERS TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT ISN'T IN THE PRESENTATION, THAT'S ALL.
NO, YEAH, THAT'S NOT, YEAH, THAT IT WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
WHY DO WE DO IT THAT WAY? I MEAN, ULTIMATELY THE BUILDINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, SO WE KNOW WE'RE ING LAND SIDE FOR THE SCHOOLS.
WHY DOESN'T SHOW OPEN THE SCHOOL YET? GOOD QUESTION.
I HAVE A DIFFERENT AND RELATED QUESTION.
THE COST OF REAL ESTATE IS EVER INCREASING.
IF WE KNOW WE HAVE TO BUILD A SCHOOL IN 15 YEARS, WHY AREN'T WE BUYING THE LAND TODAY? YEAH, EXACTLY.
MAYBE THAT FUTURE BOARD WOULD WANT TO KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE A $10 MILLION SITE TO CLEAR OR THEY MIGHT WANNA KNOW.
BUT YEAH, THAT IS A FUTURE CONSIDERATION.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S SORT OF MY, MY KIND OF MY POINT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, HAVING FINANCES STUFF IS, IS CHALLENGING ENOUGH TO WRAP YOUR BRAIN AROUND WITH ACCOUNTING AND STUFF.
BUT YOU KNOW, SO HAVING IT IN MULTIPLE PLACES AND IT JUST KIND OF SEEMED LIKE IF IT'S, IT'S ALL COMING FROM, IT'S ALL COMING FROM OUR CITIZEN.
AND SO, UM, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE, WE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY PUTTING LAND ASIDE TO BY BUILD A COURTHOUSE WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
I HAD ENOUGH, I'D SAY NEIL, FROM, FROM THE BOARD HAVING MORE ON BOTH HATS, I WOULD SAY WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HATS, WHICH I'M WEARING NOW, IT GIVES THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SOME FLEXIBILITY IN OUR, IN OUR CIP.
WELL, IT GIVES US SOME KNOWLEDGE THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
AND GIVES US KNOWLEDGE AND, AND SOME FLEXIBILITY TO LOOK AT LIKE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT MAKES IT MORE PRESENT TO US THAT WE HAVE THIS HUGE, UH, BUILDING EXPENDITURE AND OKAY.
I'M SURE THERE'S
IT'S, IT'S IN THE SECOND SLIDE OF THE PRESENTATION.
IT'S IN THE OVERALL SPREADSHEET.
JUST WHILE WE'RE OUT, WHILE WE'RE ON IT, THIS, OF COURSE THIS IS A PLANNING DOCUMENT.
THIS HAS LAND ACQUISITION FOR THE NEW BIRD IN FY 32, LET'S CALL IT 14 MILLION.
IT'S FOURTEEN ZERO ZERO SEVEN SIX SEVENTY NINE.
AND THE CONSTRUCTION COST AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND FY 34 OF THE NEW BIRD IS 58 MILLION 58 0 9 2 8 4 4.
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NOW THAT IS A 500 SEAT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.SO IT'S 150 STUDENTS LESS THAN THE NEW GES.
SO IT'S CALLED 60,000,034 AND 14,000,032.
SO NEW RANDOLPH, THIS HAS LAND ACQUISITION AND FY 35, 25 ACRE SITE 16 MILLION 215, 640 16 MILLION.
AND AN FY 38 73 1 0 5 9 2 700,000 AN ACRE IN THE EASTERN END OF THE I GOT, I GOT SOME, I GOT SOME LAND TO SELL YOU.
I CAN'T HERE WITH CLEAR INSIDE PREPARATION, IS THAT BUILDING CONSTRUCTION TOO OR SO? SO WITH DR.
REALLY'S PERMISSION, THE, THE LAND VALUE AND THE ACREAGE AND THE TIMEFRAMES WERE GIVEN TO US BY COUNTY SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
SO WE HAD THE BUILDINGS CLOSER TOGETHER, THEY SPREAD THEM OUT THIS TIMEFRAME AND THEY TOLD US HOW MUCH TO BUDGET FOR LAND WE'VE BEEN DOING THE, THE, UM, THE ACTUAL BUILDING COST BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE AND WHAT WE'RE GETTING FROM V O E.
BUT THE LAND WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DIRECTED, IT WAS GIVEN TO US AND I'VE BEEN ESCALATING IT.
SO, SO THERE IS, AND ULTIMATELY WE DON'T KNOW, RIGHT? WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO FIND THE PARCEL, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA FIND THE RIGHT ROAD AND ALL THOSE THINGS THAT YOU GOTTA CONSIDER.
BUT THERE IS A NUMBER, MAYBE IT'S AN EXTREMELY HIGH NUMBER, IT PROBABLY IS.
BUT, BUT ULTIMATELY THERE IS AN, IT SHOULD BE IN THE CIP I THINK.
AND IT AND IT IS IN THE CIP P YES MA'AM.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS REALLY A QUESTION FOR FUTURE FOR DOES NOT EVEN CITY, BUT AS THE COUNTY WORKS WITH DEVELOPERS ON VARIOUS PROJECTS, IT'S NOT INCONCEIVABLE THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE A DEVELOPER MAY BE WILLING TO DONATE LAND FOR A SCHOOL AS PART OF AN OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY THAT'S GOING TO BE WHERE THAT DEVELOPMENT IS.
BUT YOU KNOW, AS WHERE YOU SIT NOW, UM, AS, AS YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AT BUYING LAND AND, AND, AND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS AS LOOKED AT IN CITING THE CURRENT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WE'RE BUILDING.
BUT IF SOMEONE WALKS IN THE DOOR AND SAYS, HERE'S 30 ACRES OF LAND THAT'S BUILDABLE, THAT'S IN THE EASTERN END OF THE COUNTY OR WESTERN END OF THE COUNTY, WHAT DO YOU DO? WE'LL BE VERY THANKFUL FOR THAT
SO, SO I MEAN IT'S, WE'RE REALLY DIGGING IN, WHICH IS, WHICH IS WONDERFUL.
THE SCHOOL DIVISION DOESN'T HAVE A LOCATION FOR THE EAST END SCHOOL.
I MEAN, WE'VE GONE THROUGH A BOUNDARY ADJUSTMENT.
SO IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT THE EASTERN END SCHOOL IS GOING TO BE FARTHER EAST THAN THE CURRENT RANDOLPH.
WILL IT BE ON COUNTY PROPERTY? WILL IT BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY? WE DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S VERY LIKELY IT'S GONNA BE FARTHER EAST AND WE JUST, WE JUST DON'T KNOW THE BIRD RELOCATION IT.
WE ARE FORECASTING IT TO BE ON A NEW SITE, A 25 ACRE SITE.
WHERE IS THAT IN THE WESTERN END? CERTAINLY ALL THOSE FACTORS HAVE TO GO INTO PLAY.
SO WE, WE DON'T HAVE SITES SELECTED, SO.
SO YOU HAVE AN ELIMINATED COUNTY OR SCHOOL BOARD OWNED LAND? YEAH, NO, NO SIR.
BECAUSE IF YOU DO, WE SHOULD DISPOSE OF THE LAND.
WE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT ELIMINATED ANY OPTIONS.
HOW MUCH LAND IS THERE FOR? I THINK IT'S LIKE 10 OR 11 ACRES.
READY TO TRANSITION TO THE NEXT SCHOOL SCHOOLS.
SO HOUSTON MIDDLE SCHOOL, OUR NEWEST FACILITY BUILT IN 2008.
UH, SEE NOT AS MUCH ON THIS LIST, BUT AS WE KNOW, AS TIME GOES ON AT THE END OF THIS FIVE YEAR WINDOW THAT FACILITY'S 20 YEARS OLD, WE GET AN FY 28.
NOW WE'RE 20 YEARS, WHICH IS REALLY, REALLY HARD TO LEAVE.
SO JUST CAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THE SITE, OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING, WE'RE LOOKING $75,000 A YEAR IN THAT GENERAL MAINTENANCE POOL.
UH, INCREASING THAT GENERAL MAINTENANCE POOL TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN FUTURE YEARS.
IT SECURITY 50,000 IS THE BASELINE INCREASING THAT, UH, ACTUALLY DECREASING THAT IN FY 25.
SO LARGER SITES, MORE PROJECTS THAT ARE NEEDED AT A, AT A LOWER LEVEL.
UH, FY 24, THE NEED, THE IMMEDIATE NEED IS PLAYING FIELD UPGRADE.
WE LOST, WE LOST ONE OF OUR PLAYING FIELDS WHEN WE EXPANDED THE PARKING LOT.
UH, THE CURRENT FIELD CAN USE SOME IMPROVEMENTS SINCE CIVIL, WERE BUDGETING FOR THAT.
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THINGS THAT UM, JESSICA KRONBERG IS WORKING ON, AND I'VE BEEN INVITED TO A MEETING WITH THE RICHMOND STRIKERS, IS TO SEE WHERE THERE MAY BE SOME POTENTIAL COLLABORATION THERE.ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, THE DEMANDS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHEN IT COMES TO GREEN SPACE AND PLAYING FIELDS IN, IN A LIMITED SPACE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE GOOD CARE OF THE FIELDS THAT WE DO HAVE AND BUDGETING SOME MONEY THERE JUST BECAUSE THE AGE OF THE FACILITY IN FY 26 WE'RE REPLACING SOME TILE MAJOR TRAFFIC AREAS.
NOW WE'RE STARTING TO GET INTO SOME MAJOR PRICES HERE WITH HEAT RECOVERY UNITS AND FY 27 AGAIN, 20 YEAR REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE.
AND THEN LOOKING AT SOME SAFETY UPGRADES AND LOOKING AT VIDEO SURVEILLANCE AND SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, ENHANCEMENTS TO OUR SAFETY PROGRAM.
SEE THE FIRE ALARM PANEL HERE AS WELL IN FY 28.
AND THEN WE'RE GETTING INTO A MAJOR PROJECT AND FY 28 AT REPLACING 82 CLASSROOM HEAT PUMPS.
SO WE ARE PLANNING TO REPLACE, UM, SOME OF THE HEAT PUMPS IN THE EIGHTH GRADE WING PRIOR TO THAT, THAT THIS WOULD BE THEIR HEAT PUMPS IN THE SIXTH GRADE AND THE SEVENTH GRADE SECTION.
AND THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PRICE TAG THERE.
SO, UH, BY FY 28 WE HAVE THE H V A C CLASSROOM HEAT PUMPS REPLACED AND THEN THAT'S WHEN GETS THROUGH ANOTHER 20 YEARS.
AND THEN WE START TO DO PHASE ONE OF LADDER REPLACEMENT AGAIN, THE THREE YEAR PROCESS THERE.
I HATE TO ASK THIS CAUSE WE'RE RURAL COUNTY, BUT THESE PLAIN FIELD UPGRADES, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT SYNTHETIC SURFACES AND THE CAPABILITIES, AND MAINLY FOR CAPEX REASONS, CUZ THE ONGOING CAPEX IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN NOW OR PROBABLY WAY UNDERESTIMATE BUT SAVE HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS IN THE FUTURE.
THERE IS A SYNTHETIC PLAYING SURFACE IN THE CIP P FOR GUC HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS OUR MAIN PLAYING FIELD.
UM, WE HAVE POSTPONED IT A YEAR OR TWO, BUT IT IS IN THIS PLAN.
I WANT TO GET TO THAT IN A MOMENT.
THAT FIELD IS USED BY BOYS AND GIRLS CROSS CAUSE GIRLS SOCCER AND FOOTBALL.
AND SO WE UH, WE UPGRADED THE CURRENT GRASS SERVICE ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.
WE PUT A CROWN AND SOME IRRIGATION IN IT.
BY THE TIME WE GET PAST THE NEXT FIVE OR SIX YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO LOOK AT LONG TERM SYNTHETIC SERVICES USAGE.
WELL, I MEAN, AS THEY GET BETTER, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOTHING LIKE ASTROTURF, RIGHT? THEY'RE, THEY ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE GRASS AND, AND DOESN'T MAKE ME FEEL LIKE A TOUGH DISGRACE FOR BRINGING IT UP
YEAH, I GET ASKED BY PARENTS FROM TIME TO TIME, WHEN ARE WE GONNA GET A TURF FIELD LIKE SO AND SO IT'S, IT'S IN THE LONG TERM PLAN.
CHARLIE LIVED IN TEXAS, SO WHEN ARE WE GETTING OUR TEXAS
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE JUMBO TEXAS JUMBOTRON BEFORE.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS THIS, THIS IS THE HEAVY LIFTING WALL, UH, GOODLAND HIGH SCHOOL.
WE HAVE 900 STUDENTS GO THERE EVERY DAY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 125 FACULTY AND STAFF, UM, BUILT IN 2001.
IT'S A SHOWCASE OF OUR COMMUNITY.
EVERYBODY SEES IT WHEN THEY DRIVE BY.
EVERYBODY GOES THERE FOR PERFORMANCES AND BASKETBALL GAMES AND EVENTS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE IN THE SCHOOL.
WE, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A HIGH TRAFFIC, HIGHLY VISIBLE FACILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IT IS NOW 21, 22 YEARS OLD.
SO THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE, MECHANICAL NEEDS THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE FOR IN THE FUTURE.
AND, AND ULTIMATELY ALL OF THESE ARE PROACTIVE STRATEGIES TO AVOID ANY SORT OF CATASTROPHIC REPLACEMENT THAT WOULD IMPACT OPERATIONS.
AND SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE SOME PRETTY HEAVY NUMBERS HERE WHEN IT COMES TOLAND HIGH SCHOOL, STARTING OFF WITH A GENERAL MAINTENANCE POOL, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE AND INCREASING ON THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW SECURITY.
AND THEN, UH, A STANDING ASPECT OF THE CAPITAL PLAN IS $40,000 PER YEAR FOR ATHLETIC FIELD UPGRADES AND ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT NEEDS THAT COULD BE PAINTING THE DUGOUTS OR RESTARTING THE END FIELD OR, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING TO THE PRESS BOX TO HIGH SCHOOL.
SO WE HAVE BUDGETED IN THE PAST $40,000 FOR THOSE ATHLETIC NEEDS AND RECOMMENDING INCREASING THAT TO $45,000 IN FY 28.
UM, THERE IS A RECOMMENDED SURFACE RESURFACING OF $20,000 IN FY 26 FOR ATHLETIC FACILITIES.
SO WE'RE FORECASTING THAT WE DID THAT IN 2016.
WE RESURFACED, SO THAT'S 10 YEARS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
WE HAVE TO SPEND SOME MONEY THERE 24 NEXT YEAR.
SO THE MOST PRESSING NEED RIGHT NOW, AND AGAIN, WE'RE
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LOOKING AT A FOUR YEAR REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE JUST BECAUSE OF THE MAGNITUDE OF THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.AND AS A REMINDER TO OUR PUBLIC THAT KITCHEN SERVICES NOT ONLY GUCCI HIGH SCHOOL, BUT IT SERVICES GUCCI MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO IT'S SERVING 900 PLUS 600, 1500 KIDS ARE SERVED BY THAT KITCHEN.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE SIZE OF THE EQUIPMENT AND CERTAINLY THE SIZE INCREASES THE COST, BUT IT'S A FOUR YEAR REPLACEMENT SCHEDULE STARTING WITH 143 AND 24.
AND THEN HERE'S WHERE WE GET INTO PHASE TWO OF THOSE CLASSROOM HEAT PUMPS THAT THE BOARD HAS, HAS TRIED TO WORK THROUGH.
AND SO, UH, 81 CLASSROOM HEAT PUMPS THE 1.5 MILLION.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, IN FY 24, WE'RE LOOKING AT FOUR MAJOR HEAT RECOVERY UNITS THAT SERVICE THE MAJOR SECTIONS OF THAT BUILDING YOUR AUDITORIUM, YOUR GYMNASIUM, YOUR CAFETERIA, THOSE LARGER SPACES AND A PRETTY HECTIC PRICE TAG THERE.
AND THEN REPLACING THE GENERATOR TRANSFER SWITCH.
AND WE ALL KNOW THE COST OF ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, BUT THAT GENERATOR SERVICES THOSE CORE AREAS OF THE BUILDING AND IT'S USED AGAIN AS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE CAN USE AS A SHELTER THAT'S AN EMERGENCY SHELTER.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A CORE ASPECT OF THAT OPERATION.
THEN AGAIN, WE'RE STARTING A FOUR YEAR PLAN OF FLOOD CONTROL UPGRADES, INCLUDING OCCUPANCY SENSORS AND TRANSITION TO LED.
SO, UH, I DIDN'T LIST ALL OF THE FIVE YEAR PROJECTS ON ONE SLACK AS IT WAS AS A LOT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO FOCUS ON THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BECAUSE TRULY AS A SCHOOL DIVISION, THESE NEEDS ARE OUR HIGHEST PRIORITY MOVING FORWARD.
RE, SO THE, UM, ROOFTOP, UH, HEAT RECOVERY UNITS THAT'S AT THE HIGH SCHOOL THAT DOES NOT SERVICE THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
IS THAT ACCURATE, TODD, ON THIS? THEY DO NOT.
THERE IS ANOTHER UNIT AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, NO.
AND SO THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE REPLACE THAT GOES PAST THE FIVE YEAR.
UH, SO THEY WERE BUILT, THE SCHOOLS WERE BUILT AT THE SAME TIME.
IT WAS A YEAR AND A HALF DIFFERENCE, A YEAR DIFFERENCE, YEAR AND A HALF.
SO A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF I SAW ONE WAS BUILT 2001 IN THE ONE WAS ONE, ONE WAS 2001 AND ONE WAS 2008.
SO THERE WAS A, SO THAT MEANS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WAS BUILT SECOND, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO WHEN YOU SAY 82 CLASSROOMS IN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND 81 IN THE HIGH SCHOOL, IS THAT EVERY CLASSROOM BY THE END OF THIS PROJECT? PHASE TWO OF THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN WHEN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL COMES, WHAT YEAR WAS THAT, DEBBIE? UH, IT WAS LIKE 28 8.
AND THEN ALL THE ORIGINAL, WELL, THERE'S THREE PHASES.
IS THAT REALLY BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS? YES.
YOU'RE DOING A PORTION OF THE, OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, THE EIGHTH GRADE WING OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL.
ONE OF IT IS IN 2023 CURRENT, YOU KNOW, THIS COMING YEAR.
AND THEN 24 IS THE SECOND HALF OF THE HIGH SCHOOL PART.
THAT INCLUDES SUMMER HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THEN IN 28 THERE IS THE REST OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT COMES IN.
I'M NOT FOLLOWING IT, THERE'S THREE PHASES.
SO BUT YOU'RE SHOWING US NOW IN 24 IS PHASE TWO? YES, MA'AM.
AND, AND JUST A SIMPLE IN SIMPLIFICATION, IT'S, IT'S REALLY THE FIRST FLOOR OF BUCHIN HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN THE EIGHTH GRADE WING OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT WE'RE REFERENCING HERE.
LAST NIGHT THE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVED THE SECOND FLOOR OF BELAND HIGH SCHOOL.
PHASE ONE, LAST APPROPRIATE LAST NIGHT, THE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVED PHASE ONE, WHICH YOU HAVE APPROPRIATED, WHICH IS THE SECOND FLOOR OF GOLAND HIGH SCHOOL.
PHASE TWO IS THE FIRST FLOOR OF GOLAND HIGH SCHOOL AND THE EIGHTH GRADE WING OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, WHICH WE'RE REQUESTING FUNDING FOR N F Y 24 24.
THAT IS THE SIXTH AND SEVENTH GRADE WINGS OF THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO WITH THE CONTRACT THAT THE BOARD AUTHORIZING YOU TO SIGN LAST NIGHT, WE'LL FINISH PHASE ONE.
WE'RE ULTIMATELY SEEKING PHASES TWO AND THREE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
WHOOF THEN A QUESTION ON, ON THAT, ON, UM, AND THIS THEN, THEN IS ALMOST PICKING UP MAYBE, UH, MR. VADER'S QUESTION EARLIER, UH, TO SOME DEGREE AS WELL.
BUT WITH THE TIMING OF THAT, IF YOU'RE REQUESTING PHASE TWO FUNDING, I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD BE THE SAME SYSTEM TIED INTO PHASE ONE.
SO YOU'RE ALREADY GONNA HAVE CONTRACTORS ON SITE IF PHASE TWO WERE TO BE APPROVED, WHICH AGAIN, THERE'S NOT A BUDGET IN FRONT OF THE BOARD AT THIS POINT.
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BUT IN THE EVENT IT WERE, WOULD IT NOT MAKE SENSE FOR THEM TO GO AHEAD AND, AND AMEND PHASE ONE TO DO PHASE TWO AND MAYBE SAVE US SOME MONEY? YEAH, I'LL, I WILL TELL YOU THE SUPPORT BOARD REALLY STRUGGLED.THIS REALLY DID BECAUSE THERE ARE EFFICIENCIES IN IMPROVING PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE OF PROJECT MANAGEMENT BY MR. STEELY, OVERSIGHT, BY DEWBERRY, UH, PURCHASING THE EQUIPMENT.
NOW AT TODAY'S PRICES, THE VENDOR WAS GOING TO WAREHOUSE THEM.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY THE BID CAME IN ON NOVEMBER THE 17TH, WE HAD UNTIL JANUARY THE 17TH TO APPROVE IT FOR THE PRICING.
AND WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE APPROPRIATION TO DO ALL OF THAT NOW.
SO THE SCHOOL BOARD MADE THE DECISION TO GO WITH WHAT WE HAVE APPROPRIATED TO US, BUT YES, WE REALLY STRUGGLED WITH THAT, VIC AND, UM, BECAUSE OF OF THE LOGIC THAT YOU'RE EXPRESSING, HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU ASKED THEM JUST AS AN UNOFFICIAL, NOT A FORMAL ON THE STREET BID, BUT HAVE YOU ASKED THEM IF WE, IF IF WE WERE, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T JUST DO THAT LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY, JUST, YOU KNOW, QUIETLY, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, I MEAN, HAVE THEY GIVEN YOU ANY INPUT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY SHOULD THINK ABOUT IT OR IT REALLY WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
YOU'VE BEEN WORKING, BEEN WORKING WITH THEM CLOSELY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ONLY APPROVED PHASE ONE LAST NIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THE FUNDING WE HAD.
WE DIDN'T WANNA FORCE THE HAND OF THE BOARD SUPERVISORS BY APPRECIATE BY DOING THE SECOND, RIGHT.
SO, UM, WE HAD, WE ACTUALLY HAD MONEY ON HAND, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, THE CONS SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION GRANT WAS, IS PAYING FOR THE SECOND, THE, THE EQUIPMENT PART OF THE SECOND PHASE.
SO WE, WE KNOW WE HAVE THAT MONEY THIS YEAR.
UM, THEY, THEY WERE GONNA WAREHOUSE IT.
THEY WERE GONNA WAIT FOR THE APPROPRIATION AND ALLOW US TO MEND THE CONTRACT.
BUT THAT WOULD'VE FORCED YOU TO SAY THAT WE'RE, WE WERE BASICALLY SAYING FOR OUR SUPERVISORS, YOU HAVE TO PROVE $900,000 OF THIS, UM, FOR, FOR US TO FINISH THAT PROJECT.
SO WHEN WE TOLD THEM YESTERDAY THAT, UM, WE COULD ONLY APPROVE PHASE ONE BECAUSE THAT'S ALL WE HAD THE MONEY FOR, THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TO PUT A SOFT HOLD ON THE SECOND PHASE, SEE IF WE CAN AFFORD TO, TO, UM, GIVE IT TO YOU AT THE BID PRICE IN APRIL.
BUT THAT IS EXTREMELY GENEROUS.
UH, IT'S A, IT'S A LOCAL COMPANY OR IT'S A RICHMOND BASE, OLD DOMINION, UH, MECHANICAL.
THEY REALLY, THEY REALLY WANTED TO WORK WITH US.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA BE A VERY GOOD CONTRACTOR FOR US.
UM, SO THEY, THEY, THEY WERE BENDING OVER BACKWARDS TO TRY TO MAKE THIS PHASE TWO WORK.
AND WE JUST DIDN'T WANNA BIND YOUR HAND.
IF, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD GO OUT FOR A SEC.
WELL, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT FOR A SECOND BID.
UM, IF A A AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, WE'LL HAVE TO GO OUT FOR A SECOND BID UNLESS THEY CAN HOLD THAT COST IN SOME WAY.
DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH, IF THIS MADE THE HVAC THE MILLION FOUR, 2 MILLION AND THE 3 47 I GUESS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, RIGHT? JUST THE 1.4.
THE, THE, THE, THE HEAT PUMP IS ALL WE'VE BEEN SO FAR THERE, THERE ARE TWO H V A C PROJECTS.
THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN H V C PROJECT.
BUT THE HEAT, HEAT RECOVERY UNIT GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT PROJECT.
IT'S A DIFFERENT PROJECT, BUT IT ALL IMPACTS THE CLIMATE IN THE SCHOOL.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER? NO, NO ONE'S A ROOFTOP AND ONE'S INSIDE THE BUILDING, LIKE I SAID DOESN'T MATTER.
CONNECTED AS A SYSTEM USING THE SAME CONTROLLERS, BUT THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE LOCATIONS.
SO THE MEETING FOUR THEN IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? YES, MA'AM.
SO DO WE KNOW ROUGHLY HOW MUCH OF THAT MONEY IS, UM, MATERIALS VERSUS LABOR? YES, MA'AM.
UM, JUST GIMME A WEALTH NUMBER.
IT WAS, IT WAS 600,000 OF THAT WAS THE MATERIALS, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IS THAT BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS, THERE'S REALLY NO SAVINGS RIGHT NOW FOR US TO DO.
PETERSON SAYS THE HEROIC BEFORE NOON.
WITH, WITH THIS, WITH THIS SOFT HOLE, IT GIVES US A LITTLE PEACE OF MIND.
ULTIMATELY, IF THE GAVEL GOES DOWN IN MID-APRIL
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WHEN IT'S APPROPRIATE, THEN WE CAN TURN RIGHT AROUND AND SAY GO.WELL THANK YOU FOR NEGOTIATING THAT.
YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF A HOUSE THAT COULD BE SO RIGHT, SO THE BID PRICE IS 1.3 AND UM, I'M TRYING TO GET BACK TO THAT.
THIS 1.4 IS A 5% ESCALATOR BECAUSE IF WE HAD TO BID AGAIN, WE'RE EXPECTING AT LEAST 5%.
RIGHT? SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S, YEAH.
MR. PETERSON, DID YOU ASK, UH, MY, MY COLLEAGUE MS. RED
YOU WERE TRYING TO, OH, YOU WERE TRYING TO EARLIER I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA WEIGH IN.
THAT'S WHY I GOT THE CHAIR'S ATTENTION TO RECOGNIZE YOU THERE.
SO WE MORE MECHANICAL STUFF, RIGHT? MORE MECHANICAL, BOILER, HOT WATER, PLUMP REPLACEMENT.
CAN I GET THE HOT WATER THROUGH THE BUILDING? RIGHT? UH, FLOORING, YOU KNOW, THAT BUILDING'S USED REALLY HARD.
EVEN WITH ALL THE MAINTENANCE WE DO, WE CAN REPLACE TILES OF FLOORING.
UH, AGAIN, MORE H AC KIND OF THINGS.
YOU GOTTA GET THE HEAT, THE HEAT PUMP, LUMP THE CHILLER.
SO THIS, THE, THE SUPERVISOR'S INVESTED IN THAT COOLING TOWER.
IT'S OUTBACK THAT'S BEING REPLACED.
I THINK WE HAVE, IT'S COMING ON SITE MONDAY, IT'S NOW.
THIS IS THE SECOND PART OF THAT.
SO WE GOTTA REPLACE THE CHILLER AND ASSOCIATED, OH, AND THEN WE'VE GOT MORE ROOFTOP HANDLERS IN 27.
INSTALL THAT AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A SISTER PROJECT TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND IT'S A SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.
AND AGAIN, FIRE ALARM PANELS, ELECTRICAL PANEL AND SWITCH GEAR, AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL SECURITY ENHANCEMENTS IN FY 28.
AND THEN UPGRADING THE TRACK SURFACE, BE, UM, PUT DOWN A NEW TRACK.
SEEMS LIKE IT WAS JUST YESTERDAY, BUT IT WAS ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO.
SO BY THE TIME WE GET THE FY 28, HAVE TO RESURFACE THAT TRACK AGAIN.
WHAT ARE THE PROJECTS IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS IN THAT FIVE WINDOW? A LOT OF MECHANICAL STUFF.
ALRIGHT, SO WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TUESDAY NIGHT.
YOU ASKED ABOUT SOME OF, OF THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT, THAT ARE IN THE CIP P THAT WERE IN DIFFERENT YEARS IN THE PAST.
AND SO THE SCHOOL BOARD ADJUSTED THOSE PROJECTS BASED ON THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE TOGETHER.
AND SO I'M HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH THESE, BUT MUCH OF THIS I SHARED WITH YOU LAST TUESDAY NIGHT WHEN WE WERE TOGETHER.
I WILL BRING ATTENTION TO THE ATHLETIC FIELD HOUSE EXPANSION AND FIELD RENOVATION.
SO MR. WATTERS, THAT'S TO YOUR QUESTION, THIS PRICING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT FIGURE IS A SYNTHETIC SURFACE, THE MAIN PLAYING FIELD, ATLAND HIGH SCHOOL, AND IT'S THE ADDITION OF A FIELD HOUSE IN THE ATHLETIC COMPLEX, LOCKER ROOM, TRAINING ROOM, WEIGHT ROOM UPGRADE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THAT.
SO WE DELAYED THAT PROJECT, THE FY 32 WITH THE ENGINEERING YEAR BEFORE.
I THINK THAT WAS, UH, IN THE 25, 26 YEAR RANGE PRIOR TO THAT.
NEED TO INTERRUPT, BUT YEAH, PLEASE.
UM, THE ONE QUESTION I HAD WAS, AS IT RELATES TO NEW SERVICES Y SEEING ALL THE DATA AROUND IT.
I MEAN, I, I, I, I, I GUESS, I GUESS AS A VIEWER, I, I ASSUME YOU ALL HAVE DUG INTO THE DETAILS.
SO THERE ARE MATERIAL COST SAVINGS TO, ONCE THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE ON THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE BASIS.
I, I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE DONE OUR DEEP DIVE ALREADY.
YEAH, I WOULD LOVE TO GET MY ATHLETIC DIRECTOR OFF OF THE MILL ATHLETIC ADMINISTRATOR, THE GRASS.
THAT MIGHT BE THE ANSWER I NEED.
SAVING PAY COSTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME THINGS WE, WE LOOK AT AND WE SAY, OH, THOSE MUST BE COST SAVING.
BUT I, I DID WANT MAKE SURE THAT THE DIVE HAS BEEN, BEEN MADE, PICK AND SAY, MY GOSH, WHY WOULDN'T WE? BECAUSE IT'S UM, PERTINENT TO THAT VERY REASON.
RAYLEY WASN'T, UH, THE AUXILIARY GYM WASN'T THAT SORT OF INCORPORATED INTO THE NEW ELEMENTARY, THE AUXILIARY GYM.
WE CAN, UH, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE DELAY IS BECAUSE WE CAN USE THE CURRENT, THE NEW GES SPACE FOR, FOR SEVERAL THOSE.
AND THESE ARE ALL PART OF THE TASK IN THEON, RIGHT? YES.
SO THE AUXILIARY GYM, THE WRESTLING ROOM RENOVATION, THE C 1 43 CT ADDITION AND
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INTERIOR RENOVATION, ALL OF THOSE WERE PART OF THE BOND REFEREND? YES.WAS EVERYTHING WITH THE ATHLETIC FIELDHOUSE? THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT'S A FOLLOW UP ON THE COMMENT YOU MADE.
I ASSUME GETTING A AD OFF OF MOWER IS AN ATTRACTIVE THING TO GET A BETTER AD AND IN THE FUTURE, CORRECT? WELL, HE, HE'S A GREAT, I LORD, WE ALWAYS WANNA GET THE BEST.
I LOVE TO USE HIS PALLETS IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
I WAS GONNA SAY IT'S BETTER AND YOU JUST BREEDS BETTER.
HE HAS A LOT OF SKILLS THAT COULD REALLY BENEFIT US IF I COULD USE THEM IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF HUMAN CAPITAL THAT'S PAINTING A FIELD.
YOU CAN BUY ROBOTS TO DO THAT, BUT THE CHILD'S NOT AS GOOD.
I MEAN, THERE ARE SO MANY MATERIALS WITH HUMAN COST TO GO INTO THAT, THAT ULTIMATELY BE RECOUP OUR DIVISION DIVIDEND, YOU KNOW? AND ULTIMATELY TOO, WHAT'S THE SAFEST PLAYING SURFACE FOR OUR KIDS? UH, IT GIVES YOU 365 DAY OF USAGE.
IF IT RAINS AND YOU HAVE 'EM ON SOON, GUESS WHAT? YOU CAN STILL USE THE FIELD.
SO THERE'S SO MANY BENEFITS LONG TERM.
I KNOW THEY IT OVER THE YEARS, A LOT OF INJURY.
HOPEFULLY THAT'S, WE CAN MOVE IT UP SOONER IF WANT TO
RILEY, JUST FROM A TIME CHECKER, YOU WANT TO SEE OFF YOU, WHAT ARE WE THINKING OUT HOW? YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE MAYBE 10, 15 MINUTES.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S, OKAY, SO WE'RE ALL GOOD TO QUICK, QUICK QUESTION ON CTE ADDITION.
AND I, I'M LEARNING A LOT DOING, DOING REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION, UM, UH, STUFF ABOUT PROJECT, UM, WHEN YOU SUBMIT A PROJECT FOR, UH, APPROVAL, LIKE IN OUR CASE, TKO, SO THAT'S A DEBATE GOING ON RIGHT NOW IN THE REGION, TRANSPORTATION SHOULD WE REQUIRE, UM, PROJECTS TO BE FURTHER ENGINEERED.
SO WHEN I SAW THAT 17 POINT HALF MILLION, I WAS WONDERING HOW SOLID IS THAT NUMBER? AND OF COURSE I SEE ENGINEERING PROJECT MANAGEMENT COSTS OF 2 MILLION.
HOW FAR HAS THIS THING BEEN ENGINEERED IN, IN TERMS OF GIVING US A SENSE OF VALIDITY OR, OR ACCURACY OF THAT COST? YEAH, WE HAVE NOT, UM, DONE ANYTHING BEYOND IDENTIFYING THAT IT'S 30,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND SO AT 30,000 SQUARE FEET WE'VE APPLIED PREVAILING RATE OF CONSTRUCTION BASED ON WHAT WE'VE LEARNED.
WE INFLATED THAT 30% IN FY 22 AND FIVE YEAR BEYOND.
SO SQUARE FEET TIMES COST PER SQUARE FOOT, INFLATED INFLATION RATE.
THAT'S HOW WE GET TO THAT FIGURE.
PROJECT MANAGEMENT IS WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED THROUGH THE PROCESS FAR AS HOW MUCH IT ACTUALLY COSTS FOR ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS.
THAT ALSO INCLUDES HAVING AN OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE IN, IN THE, IN THE FIGURE.
SO WE'VE TRIED TO INCORPORATE ALL THAT BASED WE AT THE ANSWERS THAT YOU ARE ASKING ABOUT.
I THOUGHT I HEARD 2022, 30% INCREASE IN FIVE AFTER THAT'S THE MODEL THAT WE'RE USING.
SIR, DO WE KNOW THE TOTAL OF THOSE NUMBERS AND THE TOTAL OF THOSE NUMBERS IN 2021 BEFORE THE 30% INCREASE IN 5% GROWTH NEXT 10 YEARS? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE INCREASE IN IS FROM? WE HAVE THOSE, WE PRESENTED THOSE TO THE BOARD IN EITHER NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER.
WE HAVE, WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS INITIALLY ON THE BOOKS, I THINK SOME OF 'EM GO BACK TO 1718, QUITE HONESTLY.
WE HAVE THAT 1718 COST VERSUS WHAT IT IS ON THIS SLIDE.
WHAT THAT INCREASE IN ASK IS THE SIGNIFICANT DELTA MILLION NUMBERS.
AND MR. PETERSON KIND OF WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS, AS I RECALL, WE'VE ONLY GOT BY VOTER APPROVAL ABOUT 18 MILLION TOTAL FOR SCHOOL PROJECTS DIDN'T GO UP BY 30% PLUS 5%.
SO AS, AS THE BOARD IS LOOKING AT ITS FUTURE PLANS, I I WOULD JUST CAUTION THAT I DON'T THINK WE'LL EVER BE IN A POSITION AGAIN TO FIND THE KIND OF MONEY WE FOUND FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND THAT WILL PROBABLY REQUIRE REEVALUATION OF THE PROJECTS EVEN WHETHER THEY'RE ABLE TO BE IN THAT OR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF ANOTHER, IF FUTURE BOARD DESIRE TO DO ANOTHER REFERENDUM, THEN YOU PROBABLY NEED TO PULL PROJECTS OUT AND HAVE THAT FOCUS OF SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BUT THE CURRENT REFERENDUM WE'RE OPERATING UNDER HAS GOT HANDCUFFS ON US.
AND I JUST WOULD WOULD PUT THAT OUT AS CAUTIONARY THAT, THAT THE PROJECTS THERE ARE CLEARLY WELL OVER OUR ABILITY FROM VOTER SUPPORT TO FUND PRE PRE POINT.
SO THAT WAS PART OF THE CALCULUS IS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY, HEY, WE MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
WE MIGHT NEED TO ABANDON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
THAT'S WHY THE TOP THREE PROJECTS THAT WERE PART OF THE BOND REFERENDUM, WE'VE DELAYED OUTSIDE THAT FIVE-YEAR
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WINDOW OKAY.TO PROVIDE MORE TIME FOR DECISION MAKING.
BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S A, THIS COMMUNITY HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED CTE AND FELT IT STRONGLY AND STRONG.
AND SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO MM-HMM
SO THAT'S WHY WE PURPOSELY HAS LEFT THAT CTE EDITION IN THE FIVE YEAR WINDOW AND THEN THE INTERIOR RENOVATION AND FINE ARTS EXPANSION, WE MAY BE ABLE TO, TO NARROW THE SCOPE OF THAT SIGNIFICANTLY.
THAT'S THE TRUE COST OF THAT PROJECT.
MAYBE THAT'S A $500,000 RENOVATION OR WHATEVER WE CAN AFFORD AT THE TIME.
SO KNOWING THAT WE HAVE 18 MILLION LEFT IN THE BOND WRAP RIGHTUM, THOSE BOTTOM TWO PROJECTS WOULD BE THE PRIORITY IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AND HOW CAN WE USE THOSE FUNDS BEST MEET NEEDS, THOSE PROJECTS CHANGE SCALE FOR RIGHT.
AND I MAY HAVE MISSED EARLIER, I APOLOGIZE, I DID, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THE FAR RIGHT IN THE ENGINEERING PROJECT MANAGEMENT COST, FOR EXAMPLE, CPE IN 25, IS THAT 2 MILLION 1 47 PART OF THE 17 FIVE? OR IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE 17 FIVE? IT'S IN ADDITION.
SO AGAIN, ADJUSTING SCOPE, MAYBE IT'S 25,000 SQUARE FEET MAYBE.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER YEARS.
UH, HEY, UH, REALLY QUICKLY, THE PRE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT CENTER, YOU MAY HAVE PREVIOUSLY NOTED A GTECH, WE CHANGED THE NAME LAST YEAR.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO THAT FACILITY.
IF WE BUILD THE CTE CENTER IS GOING TO BE USABLE BY SOMEBODY LONG TERM.
AND SO THAT MAY BE SCHOOLS, THAT MAY BE THE COUNTY, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO ACCOUNT TO THE COST.
AND SO WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THE TRUE NEEDS OF THAT FACILITY MOVING FORWARD BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, IT'S ALL COUNTY DOLLARS, RIGHT? SO AN IMMEDIATE NEED THAT HAS NOT BEEN ON PRIOR PLANS BUT HAS CROPPED UP OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS IS REALLY NEED TO UPGRADE THE ACS SYSTEM IN THAT SPACE.
UM, WE'RE LIMPING THAT, THAT EQUIPMENT ALONG.
AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY A NEED TO DO THAT QUICKLY.
AND THAT'S A NEW REQUEST FOR FY 24.
AND SO AS YOU'RE LOOKING OUT FY 27, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT RENOVATIONS TO THE SECOND FLOOR OF THAT FACILITY, WHICH IS CURRENTLY HOUSING PRESCHOOL STUDENTS, IF THAT'S USED FOR SCHOOL PURPOSES, COUNTY PURPOSES.
PROBABLY WANNA MODERNIZE THAT SPACE A LITTLE BIT FOR, FOR COMMUNITY USAGE, HOWEVER, THAT MAY ROLL OUT.
AND THEN WE DO NEED TO ACCOUNT FOR H V C REPLACEMENTS ON THE SECOND FLOOR OF THAT FACILITY, FORECASTING A HUNDRED GRAND AND THEN SOME MORE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM OPERATE THERE.
AND THEN, UH, IF WE DO BUILD A CPE CENTER, FY 28, THIS IS A PLUG FIGURE, QUITE HONESTLY IT'S $500,000 FOR ANY SORT OF RENOVATIONS TO THOSE DOWNSTAIRS CLASSROOMS. SO ANYWAY, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FORECAST.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FACILITY IN OUR COMMUNITY PROBABLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT WHENEVER WE ABANDON THAT SPACE IS TRYING TO ACCOUNT FOR THOSE COSTS.
SO, SO THE NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, HOPEFULLY IT'S GONNA BE OCCUPIED IN THE FALL OF 24.
SO YOU'VE GOT NOTHING FOR OSELAND ELEMENTARY.
THERE'S NO WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO TIDE YOU OVER UNTIL THE SCHOOL OPENS.
IF WE DO, IT'S GOING TO COME OUT OF THAT OVERALL CAPITAL POLL OR OPERATING BUDGET.
SO LET'S LET'S TRANSITION TO TRANSPORTATION.
OF COURSE, WE OCCUPY THAT FACILITY OUT ON, UH, OUT IN OILVILLE OFF TRIPLE T ROAD.
SO WE, UH, THE COUNTY AUTHORIZED SOME FUNDS FOR US TO REPLACE WINDOWS IF YOU'RE EVER DRIVING BY.
IT'S A MUCH BETTER CURB APPEAL AND A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT, UH, SPACE FOR US.
AND SO THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR SEVERAL YEARS HAS HAD A DIESEL SCHOOL BUS IN THE BUDGET.
AND SO, UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THE PRICE OF DIESEL BUSES ARE GOING UP JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE.
I THINK IN AUGUST THE PRICE OF A DIESEL BUS WAS $119,000.
AND SO IN FY 24 WE'RE REQUESTING ONE DIESEL SCHOOL BUS AND SEE HOW WE'RE JUST DEFLATING THAT OVER TIME FORECASTING WHAT THAT PRICE MAY BE IN THE FUTURE AND THE COUNTY'S SUPPORTED AND WE'RE, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE PURCHASE OF FOUR VEHICLES FOR OUR WHITE FLEET.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY STRETCH THOSE DOLLARS VERY FAR TO MEET SOME OF OUR IMMEDIATE NEEDS.
SO WE'RE OUR COUNTY BEFORE VEHICLES OVER TIME, OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.
AND OF COURSE WE'RE FACTORING IN INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THERE AS WELL.
SO ONE SCHOOL BUS, FOUR VEHICLES IN THE WHITE FLEET ON A RECURRING BASIS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
WHAT DID Y'ALL EVER DO ABOUT THE ELECTRIC BUSES? WELL, UH, RIGHT NOW THIS IS SOMETHING I SHARE WITH MR. CARPENTER.
WE NEED ACTION FROM THE SUPERVISORS REGARDING THE REBATE
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THAT WE WOULD RECEIVE IF WE PURCHASE THOSE.SO THERE'S AN OUTSTANDING, UM, REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATION, UM, THAT WE WOULD NEED THE SUPERVISORS TO APPROPRIATE TO US IF YOU, UM, WANT TO DO THAT SO THAT WE CAN ISSUE THE PURCHASE ORDER AND MOVE FORM WITH THOSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A GRANT, IT'S A REBATE.
SO YOU HAVE TO PAY IT UP FRONT AND THEN YOU GET REBATED.
WELL, WE ISSUE THE PURCHASE ORDER, WE MAKE THAT COMMITMENT TO PURCHASE AND THEN WE GET THE REBATE.
SO WE JUST, WE JUST WANT YOUR AUTHORIZATION TO DO THAT.
SO IT'S LIKE REBATE GIVEN AT THE REGISTER COURT.
SO IF, IF WE COULD GET THAT ON THE FEBRUARY AGENDA, THAT'D BE, THAT'D BE GREAT.
UH, AND THEN SOME OTHER JUST FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS YOU CAN SEE THEN THERE, THEY'RE, THERE'RE IMPORTANT COSTS, BUT NOT, CERTAINLY NOT AT THE LEVEL THAT WE SEE IN OUR OTHER FACILITIES.
SO NEW MUTUAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, YOUR WORK TO MAKE LAST TUESDAY NIGHT HAPPEN.
UH, LAST NIGHT THE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVED, UH, GAVE ME THE AUTHORITY TO SIGN THE CONTRACT ON THEIR BEHALF.
WE HAVE A KICKOFF MEETING TODAY WITH ALL THE PLAYERS THAT ARE INVOLVED.
I BELIEVE SCOTT FOSTER'S GOING TO REPRESENT COUNTY GOVERNMENT AT THAT MEETING.
AND WE'RE GOING TO ROLL OUR SLEEVES AND TALK ABOUT THE NEXT STEPS AND WHEN WE WILL ACTUALLY SEE SILK FENCE AND BULLDOZERS AND TREES GOING DOWN.
SO, UH, WE'LL DO ALL OF THAT TODAY.
WE'LL GIVE THE OFFICIAL NOTICE TO PROCEED EITHER TODAY OR TOMORROW AND STAY WITHIN ALL OF OUR WINDOWS.
UH, WORK TOGETHER WITH COUNTY STAFF ON A GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING AND KEEP YOU ABREAST OF THIS PROJECT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING AS AN INTERNAL TEAM WHERE OUR COMMUNICATIONS, THE COMMUNITY, OUR COMMUNITY IS GOING SEE PICTURES AND VIDEOS AND, UH, WE WANNA MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CERTAINLY FULLY TRANSPARENT THROUGH EVERY STEP OF THE PROCESS SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND WHEN, UH, ULTIMATELY WE'RE LOOKING AT SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION AND IT'S MAY 28TH, 2024, FULL COMPLETION AT THE END OF JUNE, 2024, WHICH GIVES US THE MONTH OF JULY FOR US TO MOVE IN, TEST OUT ALL THE SYSTEMS AND BE READY TO ROLL FOR MID-AUGUST OPENING.
YEAH, IT'LL IT'LL BE CALLED ELEMENT.
WE DON'T DO THAT, BUT WE DO HAVE THREE.
HEY MR. ROGER, I, I JUST HAD A, UH, COMMENT IS IF WE CAN UTILIZE IT AND GET, YOU SAID TRANSPARENCY, WHICH IS THE KEY TERM IN THIS WHOLE PROJECT, IS SOME SORT OF SITE VIDEO AND A TIME LAPSE THING WHERE, WHERE EVERYBODY CAN GO, WOW, THEY'RE JUST MOVING ALONG AND THEY'RE GRADING AND THEY'RE DOING ALL THE STUFF THEY DO.
I JUST, I, LET'S GET, LET'S GET THE GOODWILL OUT OF THIS PROJECT.
ONE OF THE QUESTIONS MR. VADERS, WE GOING TO ASK TODAY IS ABOUT HAVING A WEBCAM ON SITE.
IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IS THAT DOABLE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT? IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, THEN DRONE FOOTAGE AND OTHER FLYBYS AND SO THAT WE CAN WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT MEANS WE'RE JUST GONNA HARASS YOU BOARD
GOOD ARM IN ARM AND WORKING TOGETHER.
AND SO, UH, YEAH, I'M GOING, WE, WE HAVE, WE, OUR TEAMS WANT TO TALK ABOUT COMMUNICATION STRATEGY.
I THINK IT'S LATER ON THIS WEEK TIMES AGAIN, NO
CAN I SAY A FEW THINGS THIS WAY? SURE.
SO PART OF THE MVP, OUR OWNERS GRAB CONTRACT WAS THIS WHOLE DRONE STRATEGY.
UM, SO WE, WE HAVE THAT AS PART OF, UM, THE CONTRACT WITH THE OWNER'S REP.
AND THEN WHAT I REALLY WANTED, UM, TO TELL YOU GUYS IS THAT THE COUNTY STAFF HAVE BEEN TERRIFIC IN TURNING AROUND THIS PROJECT AND KEEPING IT GOING FORWARD.
SO WE HAVE, UM, THE COUNTY HAS APPROVED THE, UM, THE EROSION PLAN AND UM, THE BUILDING PERMIT.
WE HAVE JUST A FEW THINGS THAT WE'LL CLEAR UP TODAY AT OUR AFTERNOON MEETING.
SO THE, WE VERY, VERY MUCH THANKED THE COUNTY FOR, UM, UH, ALLOWING US TO, UM, PROCEED AS QUICKLY AS WE HAVE.
AND VDOT HAS BEEN AS SUPER PARTNER, SO THEY HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THE CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE, WHICH IS, WE, WE HAD TO WAIT FOR THE PROJECT TO BE VIABLE AND THEN WE, WE COULD, UM, WE COULD ASK FOR THAT CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE.
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UM, UH, VIRGINIA POWER IS, UM, ALREADY, UM, HAVE US ON THEIR SCHEDULE TO EXTEND POWER OUT TO THE SITE.SO, SO THANKS HAVE MOVED VERY FAST SINCE YOU GUYS APPROVED LAST WEEK.
AND UM, WE'VE JUST GOTTEN GREAT PARTNER SUPPORT AND GREAT SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY STAFF.
UM, WE HOLD OURSELVES TO THE SAME STANDARDS.
SO WHATEVER'S BUILDING INSPECTIONS OR PERMITS, UH, ALL THE SAME PROCESS.
WE HOLD OURSELVES TO THE SAME STANDARDS.
WE, WE WENT THROUGH THREE, UH, EROSION REVISIONS AND THREE PER BUILDING PERMITS.
SO YOUR STAFF, THE COUNTY STAFF HAVE, HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF MAKING SURE THAT THIS PROJECT HAS HELPED VERY HIGH STANDARDS BOARD MEMBERS.
MR. OTHER THINGS WE WANNA DELVE INTO BOARD.
QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS? YES MA'AM.
MISS THAT MR. CHAIR MAY ABOUT ME ONE COMMENT.
MINE HAVE SOME TIME LEFT IN MY THREE MINUTES.
UM, I'LL DRAW A DISTINCTION HERE.
UM, WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED ON A ANNUAL BUDGET, SO I WON'T GET INTO ANY OF THAT YET CAUSE WE JUST, WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED CAUSE MM-HMM
SO AS WE LOOK AT CIP, UM, BIG PICTURE FOR THE COUNTY, WE UH, WE'RE FORTUNATE TO BORROW THE FIRST 50 AT VERY ATTRACTIVE RATES FORM SKYROCKETED.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE FEDERAL RESERVES BOARDS DOT PLOT PROJECTIONS, THEY THINK RATES WILL CONTINUE TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT MORE STABILIZED AND THEY EVENTUALLY COME BACK DOWN, COULD BE TWO OR THREE YEARS OUT, GIVES US TIME TO COMPLETE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON, ON THE PLATE.
CAUSE OUR PLATE GETS PRETTY FULL.
SO THE TIMING ON THAT COMING BACK DOWN THE BACK END MAY CREATE AN AN INTEREST RATE ENVIRONMENT THAT'S MORE FAVORABLE THAN IT'S TODAY.
AND WE KNOW THAT WE'VE ISSUED 50 OF THE 96 OF THE REFERENDUM.
I'M GONNA DRAW DISTINCTION REAL QUICKLY HERE.
THE REFERENDUM, MR 96 MEN, I BELIEVE IT WAS OF PAR A R IT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT, BUT WE ISSUED THE FIRST 50 AT 96.
UM, WE DIDN'T ISSUE IT AT PAR.
WE ISSUED AT A PREMIUM AND WE ALL WERE VERY WELL AWARE THAT THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY HELPED US GET ACROSS.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE ONLY USED 50 OF PAR, BUT BECAUSE WE BORROWED THE PREMIUM, WE ARE PAYING INTEREST ON THAT PREMIUM.
SO THAT WOULD ABSORB OR TAKE UP SOME OF THE DEBT CAPACITY, THE UNUSED CAPACITY OF THE COUNTY'S ABILITY TO PAY BECAUSE THE DEBT SERVICE AS A PERCENTAGE OF OUR BUDGET IS HIGHER BECAUSE OF THAT PREMIUM THAN IT WOULD OTHERWISE DEBT.
SO WHILE WE STILL HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF UNUSED POWER VALUE, WE USED UP PROPORTIONALLY MORE OF OUR DEBT CAPACITY CUZ OF THE INTEREST ON THE PREMIUM.
EVERYBODY WITH ME SO FAR? SO AS WE ENVISION ISSUING THE REMAINING, UH, REFERENDUM PAR VALUE, UM, AFTER TWO OR THREE YEARS, WHEN WE FINISH THESE PROJECTS AND THE INTEREST RATES COME BACK DOWN TO A REASONABLE AMOUNT, WE ARE GONNA END UP TWO OR THREE YEARS FROM NOW WITH LESS DEBT CAPACITY THAN WE WOULD'VE HAD HAD WE NOT DONE A PRETTY, I MEAN, JUST DONE THE 50.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, I MEAN EFFECTIVELY, THE, EFFECTIVELY WE, WE KIND OF PULLED AHEAD SOME OF THAT DEBT CAPACITY WITHOUT PULLING AHEAD SOME OF THE CAR BACK.
GEE, YOU STILL HAVE LITTLE CAR VALUE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ALL ALONG WHERE YOU HAVE TO
NOW, HOW DO YOU CREATE ADDITIONAL CAPACITY? A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS.
WHAT IS YOUR PAY DOWN SOME OF YOUR EXISTING DEBT AND IF YOU WAIT FOR YOUR SECOND OR THIRD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, 10 OR 15 OR 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THE GES DEBT IS 20 YEARS, SO 20 YEARS FROM NOW IT'LL BE GONE.
SO THAT'S ONE WAY TO CREATE CAPACITY.
THE SECOND WAY IS FOR INTEREST RATES TO COME DOWN, SEE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS GO BACK DOWN AS A PERCENT OF BUDGET.
ANOTHER WAY IS FOR THAT BUDGET INCREASES, AND IF YOU 5% A YEAR FOR 10 OR 15 YEARS, THE BUDGET WILL GROW.
THE GES DEBT WE ISSUED IS A 20 YEAR LEVEL PAY FIXED RATE NOT FLOATING.
SO AS THE BUDGET GROWS THAT DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT AS A PERCENT OF BUDGET.
SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO CREATE A DIFFERENT CAPACITY.
BUT I JUST DIDN'T WANNA LEAVE THIS ROOM WITHOUT MAKING SURE PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT.
YES, WE USED THE PREMIUM AND YES, THEY GOT US ACROSS THE FINISH LINE, BUT IT'S NOT FREE MONEY.
THERE'S A, THEY CAME AT THE EXPENSE OF USING UP SOME OF THE FUTURE DEBT CAPACITY.
SO WHEN WE MAY HAVE UNUSED AMOUNTS ON THE REFERENDUM, WE MAY HAVE LESS UNUSED AMOUNTS IN THE CAPACITY, RIGHT? SO IT'LL CONSTRAIN OUR ABILITY TO ACTUALLY ACCESS THAT REMAINING REFEREND
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MONEY.I WOULD LOVE TO SEE ALL OF THIS ON, IT'S ALL UP HERE.
CAN WE GET THIS IN WRITING SO I CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU YEAH.
IT'S IN THE, IN THE ANGLE AUDIT AS WELL.
BUT YEAH, WHAT DID I GET THAT THANK, BECAUSE THIS IS A NEW CONCEPT FOR ME, MR. PETERSON, THIS PAR VALUE, UM, RELATIVE TO THE PREMIUM.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M UNDERSTANDING IT AND, AND ITS IMPACTS FOR THE SCHOOL SHARE OF THE BOMB FOR THEM.
EVERY YEAR DURING BUDGET PROCESS, WE, WE PUBLISH THINGS LIKE THIS, UM, PUBLICLY IN OUR MEETINGS WHERE WE SHOW THE DEBT CAPACITY AND THE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WE USE.
WE ALSO TAKE AROUND THE TOWN HALLS.
THERE'S MULTIPLE PUBLIC MEETINGS WHERE WE PUT THIS OUT THERE AND SAY, HERE'S OUR FUTURE DEBT CAPACITY AND HERE'S HOW WE USE IT.
UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REFERENDUM AND PAR AND ALL THAT BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE AC DO WE HAVE UNUSED CAPACITY? AND WHEN WE POP UP AGAINST THOSE, THOSE CEILINGS, WE JUST, WE CAN'T BORROW ANYMORE OF 'EM.
SO, UM, BUT YEAH, WE DO THIS VERY PUBLICLY IN MULTIPLE PUBLIC MEETINGS, BOTH IN THE BUDGET CYCLE AND THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND MAKE SURE WE PUSH IT ALL OUT TO CITIZENS ARE VERY AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR MR? DID YOU WANNA ADJOURN YOUR BOARD? ADJOURN THE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD UNTIL TUESDAY, JANUARY 17TH AT 5:30 PM THANK YOU.
AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL ADJOURN, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT TILL, UH, 1:00 PM BOARD SUPERVISORS PENDING COMMISSION JOINT WORK SESSION, WHICH IS IN THIS ROOM AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
AND THEN TO OUR FEBRUARY 7TH AUDIT, FINANCE, AND THEN BUSINESS AND PUBLIC HEARING ADJOURN IS THERE.