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IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK ON MARCH 2ND,
[1. Call To Order]
AND THIS IS THE START OF THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE COUNTY OF GUC LAND.MADAM SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM, PLEASE? YES, SIR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
I'D LIKE EVERYBODY PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INEC.
[2. Pledge of Allegiance]
MY PLEASURE, FLAG.UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE REPUBLIC, ONE NATION, GOD, LIBERTY.
[3. Invocation - Led By Mr. Duke]
OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM WHO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO MEET HERE SAFELY.BLESS AND KEEP THOSE WHO STILL DO.
THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME TO GATHER, TO TAKE CARE OF COUNTY BUSINESS.
WE PRAY THAT YOU RAN EACH OF US WISDOM TO DO GOOD STEWARDS, TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
PLEASE BE WITH EACH PERSON HERE AND GIVE THEM GUIDANCE.
GENTLEMEN, REVIEW OF MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
DO WE HAVE, UH, ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION, MOTION
[4. Approval of Minutes]
TO APPROVE? SECOND.MOTION'S APPROVED FOR MINUTES FROM LAST MONTH'S MEETING.
UM, I'M GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR UP TO A CITIZEN COMMENT.
ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK, BUT
[5. Citizen Comment Period]
NOT ABOUT ANYTHING PERTAINING TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA.UH, WE'VE GOT A CHANGE IN THE LINEUP HERE TONIGHT FOR OUR CASES, AND WE ARE GOING TO GO WITH THE APPLICATION BY LUX STONE FIRST.
[6. Requests to Defer, Additions, Deletions, or Changes to the Order of Public Hearings]
FIRST ITEM IS DISTRICT FOUR CU 2023.ONE APPLICATION BY L LUX STONE CORPORATION REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ASPHALT MIXING PLANT ON AN 11.27 ACRE PORTION OF
[3. District 4 - CU-2023-00001 – Application by Luck Stone Corporation requesting a Conditional Use Permit for Asphalt Mixing Plant on an 11.27-acre portion of 137.386 acres at 2115 Ashland Road on Tax Map Nos. 48-1-0-10-A and 48-1-0-47-0. The property is zoned Industrial, General (M-2). The Conditional Use Permit is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-272. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Industrial.]
137.386 ACRES AT 2 1 15 ASHLAND ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBERS 48 1 0 10 A AND 48 1 0 47 0.THE PROPERTY IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15,272.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS INDUSTRIAL.
THERE IS A COMMISSION, TOM COLEMAN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER, AS MS. PARKER SAID, UH, THIS IS A CONDITION USE PERMIT FOR ASPHALT MIXING PLANT.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED INDUSTRIALLY AND, UH, THE, THE A BUDDING PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, WEST AND SOUTH ARE SHARE THAT INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
THERE'S SOME AGRICULTURAL ZONING, UH, TO THE NORTH.
UH, I JUST DID WANT TO POINT OUT, I SORT OF PUT IN A HASTON, UH, ON THE, UM, ON THE MAP.
THIS CONDITIONS PERMIT ONLY APPLIES TO THE ASPHALT FACILITY, WHICH IS JUST A PORTION OF THE TWO PARCELS.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS RECOMMENDED FOR INDUSTRIAL IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, AND ALL THE PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA ALONG ROUTE ASTON ROAD ARE RECOMMENDED EITHER FOR INDUSTRIAL FOR THAT FLEXIBLE USE IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN.
AND LOOKING AT THE ARROW PHOTO SORT OF, UH, EXHIBITS THE, UH, THE INDUSTRIAL NATURE OF THE AREA, INCLUDING THE QUARRIES AND MOST OF THE BUILDINGS THAT SHOW UP ON THE AERIAL PHOTO OR SOME TYPE OF, UH, RELATED TO INDUSTRY.
UH, QUICK SUMMARY OF THE SITE.
UH, LUCK QUARRIES, UM, HAD THE PROPERTY REZONED TO THE M TWO INDUSTRIAL ZONING IN 1976.
UH, THE ASPHALT MIXING PLANT HAS BEEN IN OPERATION SINCE THE 1970S, UH, DUE TO ZONING.
ORDINANCE CHANGES OVER THE YEARS OF THE F FACILITY IS CURRENTLY RECOGNIZED AS SORT OF A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE OR GRANDFATHERED USE.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING APPROVAL OF THE C P TO BRING THE FACILITIES AND BRING THE SITE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES WITH THIS APPLICATION.
JUST, UH, HIGHLIGHT, UH, THERE'S A VARIETY OF
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BUILDINGS AND STRUCTURES THAT ARE LOCATED ON THE SITE AND, UM, WE'LL SHIP OVER THE, THE EXCEPTIONAL PLAN.UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF, UH, BUILDINGS AND FACILITIES ON THE SITE.
UH, THE SITE DOES NOT HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO ASHTON ROAD.
IT DOES SHARE ACCESS, UM, WITH THE OPERATIONS TO THE, UH, TO THE EAST OR SOUTH.
UM, I, I'VE SUPERIMPOSED, UH, THAT GREEN DASH LINE, THAT'S NOT PART OF THE ACCEPT PLAN.
UH, WHEN WE GET TO THE, UM, THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS FOR THE C P, IT IS TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE WITHIN THE, THE SERVICE OF BUFFER FOR THE SITE.
AND THAT'S JUST TO SORT OF HIGHLIGHT WHERE THAT BUFFER'S LOCATED.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD IN JANUARY.
THERE WERE ABOUT 15 ATTENDEES, UH, THAT INCLUDED, UH, COMMISSIONERS, BREWER, AND PUCK.
UM, A NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, SOME LUCK COMPANIES AND AFFILIATED COMPANIES WERE THERE, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS THREE RESIDENTS WERE THERE ALSO, UM, THERE WAS ONE QUESTION ABOUT, UH, OFFSITE FACILITY.
UM, BUT THERE REALLY ARE NO QUESTIONS OR CONCERN EXPRESSED ABOUT THIS APPLICATION.
JUST A FEW CONDITIONS THAT WE ARE, UH, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THE COMMISSION.
UM, THE FIRST WOULD BE THAT THE ASPHALT MIXING PLANT ALLOWED TO BE OPERATED ON THE PROPERTY ON THE SECOND ONE WOULD COMMIT TO THAT CO EXCEPT PLAN THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER.
UH, THE THIRD ONE RELATES TO THAT BUFFER, UH, THAT I HIGHLIGHTED ON THE EXCEPTIONAL PLAN, AND IT JUST STATES THAT THEY SHALL RETAIN AND MAINTAIN THE TREES THAT ARE IN THAT BUFFER.
AND THEN THAT LAST ONE IS OUR STANDARD CONDITION THAT RELATES TO THE SALE OR LEASE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WE, WE MAY REMOVE, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT.
I'M WITH LUCK COMPANIES REPRESENTING LUCK STONE.
UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND THANK YOU FOR STAFF FOR GUIDING THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET TO, UH, TO THIS PLACE FOR THE C U P UH, STAFF'S DONE A GREAT JOB PRESENTING IT.
SO, UH, I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION.
UM, AND, UH, SO I'M JUST CARE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
WOULD ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? COME FORWARD PLEASE.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW.
I ATTENDED THE MEETING WITH, WITH YOU.
UM, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FOUR OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE HEARD BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON APRIL 18TH, 2023, WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR NEXT ITEM TONIGHT IS DISTRICT THREE RZ 2023.
ONE APPLICATION BY I 64 INDUSTRIAL
[1. District 3 - RZ-2023-00001 - Application by I-64 Industrial, LLC requesting a rezoning of 39.8 acres from Agricultural, Limited (A-2) to Industrial, General (M-2), with proffered conditions, located on Pony Farm Road approximately 650 feet northwest of its intersection with Oilville Road on Tax Map No. 33-1-0-5-0. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Industrial.]
LLC REQUESTING A REZONING OF 39.8 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO INDUSTRIAL GEN GENERAL M TWO WITH CRAWFORD CONDITIONS LOCATED ON PONY FARM ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 650 FEET NORTHWEST OF ITS INTERSECTION WITH OILVILLE ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBER 33 150.THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS INDUSTRIAL.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I'M JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, FOR THIS APPLICATION THIS EVENING, THERE ARE REVISED PROFFERS, UH, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A WAIVER OF THE TIME, UH, THE TIME LIMIT.
SO, UM, WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO BE PRESENTING THIS, UM, UM, APPLICATION TO INCLUDE THOSE, UM, CHANGES.
AND THEN AT THE END, YOU CAN VOTE IF YOU WANT TO, UM, WAIVE THOSE, THE TIME LIMITS AND THEN TAKE ACTION ON THE APPLICATION ITSELF.
SO, UM, AS MS. PARKER SAID, OUR FIRST PUBLIC, OH, ACTUALLY IT'S OUR SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, IS AN APPLICATION BY I 64 INDUSTRIAL LLC.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR, UM, A REZONING TO, UM, CREATE AN INDUSTRIAL PARK.
UH, THE INDUSTRIAL PARK WILL BE PARTIALLY LOCATED IN GLAND COUNTY AND PARTIALLY LOCATED IN HANOVER COUNTY.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 40 ACRES ON THE GLAND SIDE, AND IT'S LOCATED ON PAR PONY FARM ROAD.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, UH, WHERE THE LOCATION IS IN OILVILLE AND THE OILVILLE, UH, DISTRICT, UH, THE PROPERTY AND, UH, MOST OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AROUND IT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR INDUSTRIAL.
SO YOU'VE GOT, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND RED, UH, THAT'S ONLY THE PROPERTY, UM, IN THE COUNTY.
THE OTHER, UM, PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS IN HANOVER, WILL NOT BE SHOWN
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ON ANY OF MY SLIDES.UH, THE PROPERTY, UH, IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED.
UH, THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AROUND IT ARE AGRICULTURAL LIMITED TO THE WEST.
UH, TO THE SOUTH, YOU HAVE AN M ONE INDUSTRIAL PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS ACTUALLY ZONED, UM, WHEN THE ORIGINAL ZONING MAPS WERE CREATED.
SO THAT IS, UH, HAS BEEN HERE SINCE 1969.
UM, DIRECTLY TO THE EAST, THERE IS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED.
AND RIGHT BEHIND THE, THE STICKER THAT SAYS I 64 INDUSTRIAL LLC IS, UM, THE, THE BORDER THAT IS ADJACENT TO OILVILLE BUSINESS PARK.
SO HERE IS THE AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, HERE IS THE OILVILLE BUSINESS PARK.
THERE IS A RESIDENCE THAT, UH, IS AT THIS PROPERTY, AND ALL THAT PROPERTY BELONGS TO THEM.
THE INDUSTRIAL, UH, PIECE THAT I MENTIONED IS CURRENTLY VACANT, UH, TO THE WEST.
THERE ARE SOME, UM, RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
AND THEN AGAIN, HERE IS HANOVER COUNTY, AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ALL AGRICULTURAL AND FARMLAND ON THAT SIDE.
SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS TO CONSTRUCT A 14 LOT INDUSTRIAL PARK.
AS I MENTIONED, IT'S IN BOTH COUNTIES.
IN GLAND, WE WILL HAVE NINE LOTS ARE BEING PROPOSED AND FIVE IN HANOVER COUNTY.
THEY HAVE AN APPLICATION CURRENTLY IN, IN HANOVER COUNTY, AND IT IS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY.
NOT EXACTLY CONCURRENTLY, BUT, UM, THEY HAVE MADE APPLICATION THERE AS WELL.
UH, THEY HAVE PROVIDED THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED PROFFERS THAT, UM, AIM TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
UM, THEY DID PROFFER A RIGHT TURN LANE, BUT IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING A LEFT LANE, LEFT LANE TURN WAIVER.
AND, AND THE COLOR PIECES, JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY.
UM, THE PA THE COUNTY LINE IS THAT BLUE LINE THAT RUNS DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF THE SUBDIVISION.
GLAN IS OBVIOUSLY ON THE, THE SIDE THAT IT CONNECTS TO PONY FARM ROAD.
UH, THE PROPERTY WOULD BE UTILIZED BY A CUL-DE-SAC THAT WOULD, UH, GO THROUGH THE COUNTY AND THEN INTO, UM, HANOVER.
THE APPLICANT IS PROFFERING TO HAVE THAT, UH, ROAD BECOME, UH, PUBLIC AND IT BE ENTERED INTO THE VDOT UM, SYSTEM.
UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, NOT RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, BUFFER ALONG THE, UM, BOTH THE EAST AND THE WESTERN BOUNDARY LINES, THEY'RE RIGHT THERE.
UH, THE APPLICANT, UH, EXCEEDED THE REQUIREMENT OF THE DISTRICT, WHICH IS, UH, 30 FEET.
SO THEY'RE PROFFERING, UM, 50 ALONG THE, UM, PONY FARM ROAD.
THEY WILL BE, UH, PROVIDING A 30 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
THE PURPLE LINE ON THE SCREEN ON THE MAP THAT SHOWS WHERE THE, UM, OILVILLE DISTRICT OVERLAY, UM, IS, UH, IT IT GOES TO, SO THAT WOULD MEAN THOSE FIRST TWO, UH, LOTS IN THE SUBDIVISION WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE OVERLAY DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS, WHICH INCLUDE THINGS LIKE ARCHITECTURAL MATERIALS AND APPEARANCES, LANDSCAPING AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
AND LASTLY, UM, THIS, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN DOES SHOW, UH, COMMON OPEN SPACE, UM, WHERE THE STORM WATER, UH, RETENTION PONDS ARE AS WELL ALONG THE, UM, OPEN SPACE THAT IS THE BUFFER.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A PROFFER STATING THAT THOSE LANDS WILL BE MAINTAINED AND, UH, MAINTAINED AND CONTROLLED BY THE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION THAT WILL BE FORMED, UM, AS PART OF THIS, UM, SUBDIVISION.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE, UH, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY AS INDUSTRIAL.
SO IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT.
UM, UH, DEEPER INTO THE, UH, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT DOES GIVE SPECIFIC STRATEGIES THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT WHEN, UM, DEVELOPING INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.
UH, THE DIRECT DEVELOPMENT TO DESIGNATE TO DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS AND OR I 64 INTERCHANGE WITH THIS, WHICH THIS IS, IT SHOULD, SHOULD SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND EXPANSION, WHICH THIS DOES PROMOTE HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURAL SITE DESIGNS THAT ARE COMPARABLE WITH THE AR WITH THE AREA, THE, UH, OVERLAY DISTRICT WILL HAVE THOSE REQUIREMENTS ON THE, UM, THE, THOSE FRONT TWO LOTS.
BUT THERE IS NO COMMITMENT TO RE, UH, HAVE THAT SAME EXACT APPEARANCE OR, OR, OR SAME MATERIALS USED.
UH, DOES, UH, COURAGE, THE PROLIFERATION OF SIGNS, UM, THROUGH THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED ONE MOUNTED SIGN, UM, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET THOSE OVERLAY STANDARDS.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THE, THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO MEET THE REGULAR, UH, ORDINANCE
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REQUIRED FOR THE INTERIOR ONES AS IT'S PRESENTED.UH, ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH NEIGHBORHOOD USES, NOISE SCREENING LIGHTINGS, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
AS WE GO THROUGH, UH, THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION, I WILL CALL OUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY HAVE DONE TO, UM, TO SUPPORT THIS STRATEGY.
SOME THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE IMPROVED, UM, AND CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN USES.
UM, TYPICALLY THAT IS, UM, ENCOURAGED IN AN INDUSTRIAL PARK, BUT, UM, THERE ARE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT'S ALREADY, UH, CONSTRUCTED, THE OTHER PARCELS ARE NOT, UH, ZONED THAT WAY OR, AND THERE'S NO INDICATION THAT THEY WILL BECOME INDUSTRIAL AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO THOSE ARE NOT A REQUIREMENT.
SO, UM, THE PROFFERS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE, THE CHANGES, UM, ARE ESSENTIALLY THAT THE APPLICANT HAS ADDED A PROHIBITION OF RETAIL AS A PRIMARY USE, UM, AMONG ALL THE OTHER, UM, USES THAT HAVE BEEN PROHIBITED.
AND THEY HAVE REVISED THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, MOSTLY SHOWING THINGS ALONG THE LINES OF, UM, WHERE THE COMMON AREA, KIND OF SOME CLARIFICATION THAT THE ONE THAT WENT OUT IN, UM, THE PACKET.
AND IT DOES ACTUALLY CALL OUT THE EASEMENT, WHICH DOES CONNECT BACK TO, UM, THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE AREAS.
OTHER PROFFERS INCLUDE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WHICH I JUST SHOWED YOU A LIMITATION ON BUILDING HEIGHT.
THEY HAVE PROFFER TO LIMIT BUILDING HEIGHT AT 35 FEET.
SCREENING OF ALL OUTSIDE STORAGE.
THAT WOULD BE ANY, UH, PRIMARY USES THAT ARE OUTSIDE STORAGE OR ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE ASSOCIATED WITH A BUILDING, UH, BUSINESS RATHER.
UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO, OR THEY'RE PROFFERING TO LIMIT TO THREE LOTS THAT HAVE THEIR PRIMARY USE AS OUTSIDE STORAGE, WHICH IS ALLOWED IN THE, UM, M TWO ZONING DISTRICT BY RIGHT, BUT THEY'RE LIVING AT TWO THREE.
UM, I HAD MENTIONED THE 50 FOOT BUFFER ON THE EASTERN AND WESTERN SIDES OF THE PROPERTY.
THE CODE IS 30 AS I'D MENTIONED.
UM, THEY ARE, UH, PROFFERING A RIGHT TURN LANE.
UH, ALONG WITH THIS, WITHIN THE PROFFERS, THEY ARE REQUESTING TO WAIVE THE LEFT TURN LANE REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN I HAD MENTIONED, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION THAT WILL MAINTAIN THE OPEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPING AND STORMWATER WITH PROBLEM.
UH, THEY'VE ALSO LIMITED, UM, A NUMBER OF THE USES WITHIN THE, UH, M TWO AND M ONE ZONING DISTRICT, UH, BECAUSE M M ONE IS ALLOWED IN M TWO.
UH, SO I'M GONNA READ THROUGH THOSE QUICKLY.
UM, AIRPORT ANIMAL SHELTER, ASPHALT, CONCRETE MIXING PLANT, CAR WASH, COMPOSTING FACILITY, A RESTAURANT, A DEBRIS LANDFILL JUNK STORAGE, MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY, SAND AND GRAVEL PIT QUARRY MINING, UM, UH, COMMERCIAL SAWMILL.
AND THEN ON THE SAME, UH, BULLET IS A SEPARATE USE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY, BUT NOT INCLUDING PRIVATE EVENTS OTHERWISE PERMITTED.
UH, SO IF SOMEONE WAS HAVING THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE EVENT FOR THEIR BUSINESS THAT WASN'T RENTING FOR A PUBLIC USE, UH, PUBLIC ASSEMBLY USE, THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED.
UH, GAS STATIONS, PETROLEUM STORAGE, BUT NOT TO INCLUDE ACCESSORY USES FOR PRIVATE FLEET FOOLING.
SO THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE FUEL TANKS THERE AND, UM, FUEL UP THEIR OWN FLEETS, UH, TRUCK TERMINAL AND RETAIL.
UM, BUT THIS DOES NOT, THIS WOULD BE RETAIL AS A PRIMARY USE.
THIS IS THE USE THAT WAS JUST MOST RECENTLY ADDED TO THE PROFFERS.
UM, THIS WOULD ALLOW, FOR EXAMPLE, A SHOWROOM OR AN, YOU KNOW, AN, UH, AN AUTOMOBILE PLACE HAD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME WAX THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE USING ON A, A CAR AND THEY SAID, THIS IS A GOOD WAX.
WE SELL SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, BUT NOT SOMEPLACE YOU WOULD GO SPECIFICALLY TO BUY AN ITEM.
IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, AN ACCESSORY TO AN A PERMITTED USE.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION IN, UH, THIS AREA.
UH, THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, IES PONY, IDENTIFIES PONY FARM ROAD AS A MINOR COLLECTOR ROAD.
THE MINOR COLLECTOR ROAD IS WHAT TRIGGERS, UM, THEM HAVING TO HAVE BOTH THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT TURN LANE.
UM, OUR ORDINANCE IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN VDOT REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO, UM, POOR R CODE, THEY ARE REQUIRED, UM, THEY ARE PROVIDING A RIGHT TURN LANE, BUT THEY'RE REQUESTING THE NO LEFT TURN LANE SHOULD BE NOTED THAT NO LEFT TURN LANE IS WARRANTED FOR THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS OR VDO V DOT'S, UH, TURN, UH, WARRANT, TURN, LANE WARRANTS, PONY FARM AND OILVILLE INTERSECTION.
UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UM, ABOUT THIS, OR THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
OUR TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION DID IDENTIFY, UH, THE INTERSECTION OF OILVILLE ROAD AND PONY FARM ROAD, UM, UM, WAS THAT TURN LANES WERE WARRANT A LEFT TURN LANE WAS WARRANTED BASED ON EXISTING CONDITIONS, MEANING THAT WITHOUT THEM EVEN COMING HERE, IT ALREADY HAD THAT, THAT CONCERN AND ISSUE.
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I MEAN, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS STUDY ACTUALLY SAID THAT ONLY 20% OF THE, UH, TRAFFIC WOULD BE COMING FROM, UM, PO NORTH ON PONY FARM ROAD, WHICH, UM, IS NOT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH FOR, UH, FOR REALLY THIS TO BE FALLEN ON ONE APPLICANT.AND IT IS AN OFFSITE, UM, IT IS AN OFFSITE IMPROVEMENT.
SO THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD IN JANUARY, APPROXIMATELY 20 PEOPLE WERE IN ATTENDANCE.
WE HAD BOTH GLAND AND HANOVER RESIDENCE IN AT, IN ATTENDANCE.
UM, BUT THERE WAS LOTS, UH, LOTS OF SCR.
THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS RAISED.
UM, DAYS OF THE WEEKS AND HOURS OF OPERATION, UM, POTENTIAL NOISE COMING FROM THE, UH, THE, UM, INDUSTRIAL PARK TRAFFIC, UH, TRUCKS IN THE INTERSECTION OF PONY FARM AND OILVILLE ROADS.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, UNTIL THIS T I A WAS ACTUALLY, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WAS DONE.
THIS WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS ACTUALLY ON STAFF'S RADAR.
IT HAD NOT APPEARED ON ANY OF OUR LIFTS LIST TO, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
I MEAN, UH, FUNDING TO IMPROVE IN THE FUTURE.
IT IS NOW, THERE JUST HAD NOT BEEN ANY DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE IN SUCH A LONG TIME.
AND THAT'S GENERALLY HOW WE GET OUR, UH, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, UNLESS THERE'S AN ACTUAL STUDY BEING DONE.
SO THAT IS NOW ON, UH, THE COUNTY'S, UH, RADAR FOR POTENTIAL FUNDING IN THE FUTURE.
TO ADD THAT TURN LANE, UM, ON MY PRESENTATION, I HAVE STAFF RECEIVED TWO EMAILS FROM CITIZENS.
ONE RAISED SPECIFIC CONCERNS ABOUT CONCERNS ABOUT PERMITTED USES, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I THINK, UH, THAT INDIVIDUAL'S CONCERNS WERE ADDRESSED, UH, FOR THE PERMITTED USES BASED ON, UM, UH, WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROFFERED.
UM, THE OTHER THREE WERE JUST, UM, UH, POSING THE USE IN GENERAL, SAYING THAT IT'S NOT AN APPROPRIATE AREA, IT IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA MORE SO THAN IT IS INDUSTRIAL, AND IT SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE SO, AND THE IMPACT THAT THAT WOULD COULD POTENTIALLY BRING.
SO, UH, THE REMAINING CONCERNS THAT ARE LEFT ARE, UH, DIRECTLY RELATED BACK TO THOSE, UH, STRATEGIES WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, SPECIFICALLY PROMOTE HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURAL SITE DESIGNS THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA.
AS I MENTIONED, THAT THAT FRONT PART OF THE LOT IS GOING TO BE A, UM, IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SO THAT, THAT'S GREAT AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY AN EXPECTATION THAT THAT WOULD CONTINUE, BUT THERE IS NOTHING TO COMMIT TO THAT.
UH, SO IT, IT REALLY, ANYTHING COULD GO BEYOND THAT.
AND THEN SH UH, ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD USES.
UM, THIS APPLICATION SHOULD MINIMIZE ACTIVITY THAT WOULD IMPACT THE NORMAL DAY-TO-DAY LIFE OF THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS.
AND THEY HAVE DONE, UH, THAT IN PART BY PROFFERING OUT A LOT OF THE MOTION NOXS USES WITHIN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS.
BUT AS IT IS PRESENTED TODAY, BUSINESSES COULD OPERATE 24 7.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO FRANK YOUR ATTENTION.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
SO HERE TO, UM, ANSWER QUESTIONS AND I GUESS WE WILL GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN, UM, YOU ALL WOULD MAKE YOUR, YOUR TWO SEPARATE VOTES? CORRECT.
UH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION HAS THREE PARTS.
THERE'S NO NOTHING IN HERE, THE PROFITS OF HOURS OF OPERATION LIGHTING NOISE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IS THAT TYPICAL OF ALL OF OUR INDUSTRIAL PARTS? NO.
UM, MOST OF OUR INDUSTRIAL PARKS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, UH, ARE ARE 20, 30 YEARS OLD, SOME EVEN OLDER.
AND, UH, THOSE PROFFERS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE, UM, INDUSTRIAL PARK DIRECTLY NEXT STORE TO THE OILVILLE PARK, THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY LIMITATIONS ON THAT.
AND, UH, AND THE OUT OF SHEER LUCK, I DON'T THINK THAT THE, IT HAS HAD TOO MUCH IMPACT.
SO WE WILL STILL REQUIRE DOWN LIGHTING.
IT WILL STILL HAVE TO MEET THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, WOULD HAVE TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT.
AND SIGNAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OUR ORDINANCE WOULD ALLOW.
AND THE HOURS ARE 24 7 AS OF RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS ON THAT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S THE INTENT TO HAVE ALL THE BUSINESSES RUN THAT WAY, BUT THERE'S NO PR UM, NOTHING PROHIBITING THAT.
THE LEFT TURN LANE WOULD BE COMING FROM PONY FARM, NOT NOT FROM THE ORVILLE ROAD SIDE, THE OTHER SIDE.
NOW THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT THE WAIVER TO NOT DO THAT.
AND TRAFFIC SAYS THEY DON'T NEED TO, BOTH THE, UM, IMPACT ANALYSIS AS WELL AS THE, UM, VDOT S TURN LANE WARRANTS BOTH DID NOT TRIGGER THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS ANDY CONLAN HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, HAVE WITH ME TODD
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WALTON, PATRICK DOLAN, AND MALACHI MILLS, UH, WHO'S THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE SITE WILL BE ASSISTING AS WELL.UM, UH, AS, AS THE QUESTIONS COME UP, UM, A LOT OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO PRESENT WAS ALREADY PRESENTED, UH, BY, UH, SHERRY, SO I'M NOT GOING TO, UH, REHASH, BUT THIS IS A, A PICTURE THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT IN LINE AND WHERE THIS PROPERTY SITS, UH, WITHIN THAT RESPECT.
AND ALSO, UH, THOUGHT THIS WAS, UH, IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW THE PROXIMITY TO THE EXISTING OILVILLE BUSINESS PARK, WHICH I'LL REFER TO AGAIN, UH, IN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT, UH, OILVILLE BUSINESS PARK, WHICH WAS REZONED, HAS PROFFERS BUT DOES NOT HAVE ANY PROFFERS RELATED TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE, WHICH I WILL DISCUSS IS, IS BEING, BEING IN A COMPETITIVE NATURE IN THE MARKETPLACE FOR THOSE THAT ARE ALLOWED FOR, AGAIN, MOST OF THE BUSINESSES IN THERE ARE THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES, EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING FOR AND ASKING AND MARKETING FOR.
IT'S REALLY A BLUEPRINT OF WHAT WE'RE, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, FOR THIS SITE AS WELL.
UM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES THAT REALLY ARE NOT WORTHWHILE, INCLUDING THE HANOVER COUNTY THOUGHT.
I GUESS, UH, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SHOW ANYTHING FROM HANOVER COUNTY, BUT I AM, SO I'M GOING TO, I CAN SHOW THIS, UH, A LITTLE BIT IF, IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN, IN DISCUSSING THAT.
THE CRITICAL THING THAT I DID WANNA POINT OUT AS, AS MS. SHERRY HAS PROVIDED FOR, IS THAT YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THAT LONG, LONG RANGE PLAN FOR THE COUNTY IS FOR, UH, THIS AREA TO BE INDUSTRIAL.
AND IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR SOME TIME, UH, DESPITE THAT FACT THAT FROM INDUSTRIAL STANDPOINT, WE HAVE PROVIDED FOR ON OUR, UH, ON OUR PLANS, AND WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED AS WHAT WE'VE SUBMITTED, SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE THE MOST RECENT CHANGES, REALLY TO IDENTIFY SPECIFIC AREAS.
AND THESE ARE IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED.
WE DID HAVE OUR COMMUNITY MEETING IN JANUARY, BUT WE'VE CONTINUED TO TALK WITH, UH, THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WHO HAVE PROVIDED FOR, FOR AS AS LATE AS A FEW DAYS AGO.
SOME OF THE CONCERNS, UM, THE ONE IN THE RETAIL WAS PROVIDED PREVIOUSLY, I JUST FORGOT TO ADD IT, SO THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THAT RETAIL PROHIBITION, BUT FOR IF IT'S ACCESSORY OTHERWISE.
BUT THERE WAS A REQUEST TO SHOW THE BUILDING SETBACKS AND WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPERTY AR UH, PROPERTY COMMON AREAS.
AND WHAT WE PROVIDED FOR IS THE PROPERTY OWNER'S ASSOCIATION WILL, UH, MAINTAIN THOSE COMMON AREAS.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THEM EITHER IN FEE TO THE ASSOCIATION, WHICH A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL DO, UH, ACCOMPLISH IT THAT WAY, BUT ALSO WITH RESPECT TO THE BUSINESS, THEY ALSO ALLOW FOR EASEMENTS WITHIN THE LOT ITSELF SO THAT THE OWNER'S ASSOCIATION HAS AN EASEMENT ITSELF FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE BUFFER.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE FALL ON, IS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A LARGER BUFFER THAT HAS A BERM WE'RE PROVIDING FOR A BERM IN THAT AREA, AND IT'LL, IT'LL BRING THAT UP.
WE ACTUALLY DELETED A LOT OF THE B UH, BUFFER LANGUAGE LANDSCAPING LANGUAGE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY REQUIRED BY THE CODE, INCLUDING A, UH, A DOUBLE ROW OF, OF PLANTINGS ALONG THAT IN, WITHIN THAT 50 FOOT AREA, BUT ALSO PRESERVING THE EXISTING, UH, TREES AND LANDSCAPING.
WE THINK THAT THIS PROVIDES A SUBSTANTIAL BUFFER TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, INCLUDING THOSE THAT ARE IN THE COMP PLAN FOR INDUSTRIAL, BUT IT, IT AFFECTS THE NOISE WHICH WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A PROFFER ON, ON LIGHTING AS WELL AND THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
UH, BUT THIS, IT'S AN ADDITION THAT PROTECTION THAT'S PROVIDED BY THIS BUFFER.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S 50 FEET ON, ON THE EAST AND WEST, BUT ALSO IN THE REAR.
IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL RPA AREA, WHICH IS THE HANOVER COUNTY SIDE.
UM, BUT IT'S, UM, A SUBSTANTIAL AREA THAT'S A VARIABLE WIDTH THAT'S MUCH WIDER IN THAT AREA.
THAT'LL ALSO HELP WITH THE, UH, BUFFERING OF THE NOISE AND THE LIGHTING CONCERNS.
WE HAVE A, THE VDOT ROAD THAT COMES IN ON THE PROPERTY IS GONNA BE BUILT TO VDOT STANDARDS AND WILL BE DEDICATED TO VDOT, UH, FOR STATE MAINTENANCE.
UH, AND OFF OF THAT, WE HAVE A SETBACK OF COURSE, THAT, UH, IS REQUIRED.
UH, MS. SHERRY HAS PROVIDED FOR A NUMBER OF THE, UM, USES AND THE RESTRICTIONS.
I WAS GONNA, UH, FLIP THROUGH THOSE, BUT AT THIS POINT, UH, WE THINK THAT THIS IS, UM, APPROPRIATE FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITH THE REVISED PROFFERS THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED, WHICH ONLY FURTHER RESTRICT AND PROVIDE PROTECTIONS IN THE AREA.
WE'D ASK THAT, UH, YOU WOULD RECOMMEND THIS TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE AT THIS POINT.
WHAT HAPPENS IF HANAH COUNTY CHANGES THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS OR DISAPP AROSE? ANDOVER COUNTY WILL NEVER
UM, YEAH, SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE.
THE NICE THING IS, UH, WE CAN'T DEVELOP IN HANOVER WITHOUT GUC.
WE CAN DEVELOP IN GUC WITHOUT HANOVER.
YEAH, WE WOULD JUST PULL THAT CUL-DE-SAC BACK.
WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO, UH, POTENTIALLY COME BACK, UH, TO REVISE THAT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AT THAT POINT.
WE WOULD JUST MOVE IT, PULL THE CUL-DE-SAC BACK AND JUST HAVE THOSE, UH, NUMBER OF LOTS, THOSE NINE LOTS THAT ARE IN GLAND DEVELOP AND WE WOULDN'T DEVELOP IN, IN HANOVER.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE, UH, IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PROCESS.
UM, IT'S AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CODE.
UH, SO, UH, AS IS, AS YOU'RE AWARE, I CAN'T PROFFER SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY IN THE CODE IN THAT JURISDICTION.
SO OUR PROFFERS WILL LOOK A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, HAVE THE SAME EFFECT BECAUSE THERE'S SOME, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE IN IN HANOVER THAT ARE PART OF THEIR CODE THAT YOU ALL DON'T.
UH, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, WE'RE ABOUT A MONTH BEHIND, UH, WHERE HANOVER IS.
WE'VE MADE APPLICATION ALMOST THE EXACT SAME TIME, PROBABLY ABOUT THREE DAYS APART.
UM, AND THAT, UH, THEY JUST TAKE A LITTLE LONGER IN THEIR PROCESS.
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RIGHT NOW, I BELIEVE WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR THEIR, THEIR APRIL MEETINGS.THEIR MEETINGS TEND TO BE LATER IN THE MONTH.
YOURS ARE SMACKED OUT AT THE BEGINNING, SO, UM, I'M HOPING TO GET IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HANOVER IN APRIL.
THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO COME FORWARD FIRST WITH GUCCI, BECAUSE HANOVER'S GONNA ASK THE SAME QUESTION AND WHAT HAPPENS, AND MY ANSWER IS, IF YOU, IF WE DON'T GET APPROVED IN GLAND, THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN OPERATE OR PUT ANYTHING IN, IN HANOVER.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO BE A STEP AHEAD, IS WHAT WE'RE OUR, OUR PLAN IS TO BE A STEP AHEAD IN, IN, UM, IN, IN GLAND THAN WE ARE IN HANOVER.
I'LL NOW OPEN THE, UH, FLOOR TO CITIZEN COMMENT.
ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK THEIR MIND, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
PLEASE COME UP, UM, INTO THE MICROPHONE.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND WE HAVE A SYSTEM OF LIGHTS AT GREEN, YELLOW, AND RED.
AND I HOPE AT AROUND THREE MINUTES, YOU CAN KIND OF BRING IT TO A CLOSE WHEN THE RED LIGHT COMES, HOPEFULLY IT WON'T BE THAT LONG.
I OWN THE PROPERTY ON OILVILLE MANOR COURT, UH, 1 1 2 1 2 41.
WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST BUILDING, SO WE HAVEN'T MOVED THERE YET, BUT, UM, I AM IN DIRECT OPPOSITION OF THIS PROJECT, UM, FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
POTENTIAL, UM, OBVIOUSLY, UH, PROPERTY DEVAL, UM, I WAS AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING THAT WAS SPOKE OF.
THERE WERE QUESTIONS, UH, THAT, THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER AND THROUGH THE QUESTIONS, I HOPE IT WAS RECOGNIZED THAT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE THAN ME THAT WAS IN OPPOSITION OF THIS.
UM, I THINK THERE IS A GONNA BE A TRAFFIC ISSUE FROM WHEN YOU TURN ON OIL FROM OILVILLE ROAD WHEN YOU TURN LEFT ONTO PONY FARM ROAD, BECAUSE THERE'S THAT LITTLE KINDA CORNER HOOK, UM, THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE TRAFFIC COMING AROUND THAT CORNER THAT'S GONNA BE TURNING ONTO PONY FARM ROAD.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE A T INTERSECTION.
UM, I THINK THAT IS GONNA BE A CRUX IF THIS GOES THROUGH, AND THE, THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT COULD GO THROUGH IT, THROUGH IT.
UM, SO I THINK THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN.
UM, IT WASN'T SO MUCH TALKED ABOUT IN THE PRESENTATION BECAUSE IT'S MORE ON THE HANOVER SIDE.
THE, THE, THE TOTAL 83 ACRES, THE HANOVER SIDE IS ALMOST 70% WOODS.
THEY'RE SUGGESTING RIPPING ALL THAT OUT.
I MEAN, WE NEED MORE TREES, NOT LESS, WE NEED MORE FARMLAND, NOT LESS.
YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT PROGRESS HAS TO HAPPEN, BUT, UM, JUST ACROSS THE ROAD FROM PONY FARM ROBE IT ROAD IS A PROPERTY THAT IS DESIGNATED FOR M M ONE RIGHT NOW.
I KNOW IT'S FULL OF TREES, BUT USE THAT ONE.
UM, SO IN RIPPING OUT ALL THOSE TREES ALSO THAT ELEVATES AS IT GOES BACK TO THE TURKEY CREEK AND OUR PROPERTIES ARE BEHIND THERE, SO THEY TEAR OUT ALL THOSE ROADS OR ALL THOSE TREES, AND THEY BUILD 35 FOOT, UH, BUILDINGS.
WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING BUILDINGS IN OUR BACKYARD.
SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE JUST IN THE BUILDING PROCESS, SO THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A, A KICK IN THE GUT.
UM, AND I WOULD HOPE YOU GUYS WOULD RECONSIDER, UM, LEAVE THE COUNTY LIFE AND THE, AND THE VIEW OF COUNTY LIFE THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
THERE SHOULD BE AN ATMOSPHERE OF COUNTY LIFE.
THIS, THIS EXIT SHOULDN'T BE LIKE THE MANNEQUIN SABBAT ASHLAND EXIT WHERE THERE IS QUARRIES AND, YOU KNOW, BIGGER, BIGGER BUILDINGS AND, AND BUSINESSES.
THIS MAKES, MAKE SOMETHING POINTIN OUT OF THIS EXIT INSTEAD OF DEVELOPING IT INTO AN INDUSTRIAL PARK.
I LIVE AT 24 10 AMWAY DRIVE, WHICH IS RIGHT OFF A PONY FARM, UM, RECENT RESIDENCE, BUT HAVE BEEN IN THE RICHMOND AREA FOR QUITE SOME TIME, UH, STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS, AND ACTUALLY JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO THROUGH, UH, A FLYER THAT WAS LEFT IN MY MAILBOX, UM, BY ANOTHER CONCERNED CITIZEN.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THAT GENTLEMAN JUST SAID, AND I CAN'T SAY IT ANY BETTER, SO I, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD RECONSIDER THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
HELEN CARTER, 2 0 1 DEAR KEY, 2, 3 2 3 8, AND I'M GOING TO GIVE MY TIME TO CLAY CARTER.
HI, MY NAME'S ANNIE CARTER AND
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I LIVE AT 1468 PONY FARM ROAD.AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A DENIAL FOR THIS APPLICATION, AND I'M GONNA GIVE FIVE MINUTES TO CLAY CARTER.
HI, MY NAME IS CLAY CARTER AND I LIVE AT 1468 PONY FARM ROAD.
MY PROPERTY IS RIGHT BETWEEN THE CURRENT BUSINESS PARK TO THE EAST AND THE PROPOSED INDUSTRIAL PARK TO THE WEST.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL FOR THIS APPLICATION FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
I'LL START WITH THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO RELY ON THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO GET THIS REZONING PUSHED THROUGH.
WHAT THEY FAILED TO GRASP HERE IS, IS THAT IT IS A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT IS NOT A SIMPLE TWO-DIMENSIONAL PAINT BY NUMBERS PLAN.
THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER FACTORS IN THE COMP PLAN THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED AT AND ADDRESSED.
TWO OF THOSE CLEARLY DELINEATE DELINEATED FACTORS IN THE COMP PLAN, SPECIFICALLY IN CONNECTION WITH COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ARE, ONE, ENCOURAGE INTERCONNECTIVITY BETWEEN USES.
TWO, ENSURE ADEQUATE UTILITY AND TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURES.
FIRST, WITH RESPECT TO CONNECTIVITY, THE APPLICANTS HAVE MADE ZERO EFFORT TO PROVIDE ANY FORESIGHT TO CONNECTIVITY.
IF WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THE COMP PLAN HERE, THEN LET'S FOLLOW THE COMP PLAN, AND THAT WILL LEAD YOU TO NOTE THAT THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL PARCELS TO THE WEST AND MY RESIDENTIAL PARCEL AT THE CORNER OF PONY FARM AND OILVILLE ROAD TO THE EAST ARE ALSO DESIGNATED AS PURPLE INDUSTRIAL.
IT DOESN'T TAKE A CRYSTAL BALL TO SEE THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WHETHER THAT'S 10 YEARS, 50 YEARS, WHO KNOWS, BUT THESE RESIDENCES ARE MOSTLY LIKELY, MOST LIKELY GONNA GET SQUEEZED OUT AS THIS INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT EXPANDS NEAR THE INTERCHANGE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMP PLAN.
AT A MINIMUM, THE APPLICANT SHOULD SET ASIDE A STUB ROAD RIGHT OF WAY TO BOTH THE EAST AND THE WEST TO PROVIDE FUTURE CONNECTIVITY OF SIMILAR USES.
THESE, THESE APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN UNWILLING TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE SO FOCUSED ON THE DOLLAR SIGNS, THEY DON'T CARE.
ONE BIT ABOUT FUNDAMENTAL COMMUNITY PLANNING CONSIDERATIONS.
IF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN LAYOUT WERE TO FALL INTO PLACE IN THE FUTURE, YOU'D HAVE 3, 4, 5 SEPARATE DEVELOPMENTS, ALL WITH DEAD END CUL-DE-SACS.
THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY OF CONNECTING.
THIS CONNECTIVITY IS ESSENTIAL FOR SAFE ACCESS AS WELL AS REACHING THE FULL POTENTIAL OF THE AREA.
SECOND, UTILITY AND TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE ARE ANOTHER SPECIFIC CONSIDERATION STRAIGHT FROM THE COMP PLAN FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL SAFETY ISSUE.
PONY FARM ROAD IS A HEAVILY TRAVELED ROAD THAT PEOPLE FROM GUCCI AND HANOVER AND LOUISA ALL USED HEADING EAST TO COME TO 64 AT OILVILLE.
AND YET THE APPLICANTS HAVE DECLARED THAT THEY THINK THEY ONLY NEED ONE RIGHT TURN LANE INTO THE DEVELOPMENT HEADING WEST ON PONY FARM AND DON'T NEED A LEFT TURN LANE FOR TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE WEST.
THAT LEFT TURN LANE IS A CODE REQUIREMENT, BUT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO HAVE THE REQUIREMENT WAIVED.
WHY DO THEY WANT TO HAVE IT WAIVED TO SAVE A FEW BUCKS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE COMMUNITY'S SAFETY? THIS IS JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE APPLICANTS HAVING NO FORESIGHT WHATSOEVER.
PONY FARM ROAD IS HEAVILY TRAVELED AND IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE.
THEY ABSOLUTELY NEED TO INSTALL THE LEFT TURN LANE.
IT IS SIMPLY APPALLING THAT THEY WANT TO HAVE IT WAIVED WITHOUT A TURN LANE.
THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE AN ISSUE WHEN ONCOMING TRAFFIC ENCOUNTERS A VEHICLE WAITING TO TURN INTO THE PROPOSED PARK.
REX WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE OF THIS.
THIS WILL CREATE SIGNIFICANT BACKUPS THAT COULD BE AVOIDED WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION, IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TURN LANE.
THIRD ISSUE WITH THIS APPLICATION IS THE LACK OF DETAIL GIVEN FOR ALMOST EVERYTHING.
MOST OF THESE SO-CALLED PROFFERS ARE REQUIRED CODES.
THE APPLICATION IS NOT SETTING MUCH OF A STANDARD FOR THIS PART.
ONE VAGUE TOPIC IS REGARDING THE BUILDING SIZE.
IT'S BEEN STATED MULTIPLE SIZES THERE BE A 12,000 SQUARE FOOT CAPACITY.
I ALSO RECEIVE A LETTER LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY THAT STATED A 17,000 SQUARE FOOT CAPACITY.
THIS WAS PERTAINING TO HANOVER.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE DIFFERENTIATION GETS FROM THAT, BUT WHEN LOOKING AT THE WORDING, THERE IS NO CAPACITY FOR BUILDING SIZE.
THE APPLICANTS SIMPLY STATING THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A FIRE BREAK EVERY 12,000 SQUARE FEET.
ESSENTIALLY, THEY CAN CHAIN TOGETHER AS MANY OF THESE AS THEY WANT THERE.
THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT ON BUILDING SIGNS.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS THE 35 FOOT HEIGHT CAPACITY OF THESE BUILDINGS.
THIS IS ALREADY REQUIRED GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT SURROUND HOURS OF OPERATION IS ANOTHER TOPIC THAT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED.
THE APPLICANTS SAYING THAT THEY CAN LIMIT THE OPER OPERATION HOURS, BUT THEY'RE NOT STATING THEY WILL.
RESIDENTS IN THE AREA NEED SOME WRITTEN REASSURANCE THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA BE CREATING SOME NIGHTTIME OR WEEKEND ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING TO CREATE NOISE TRAFFICKED AND OTHER NUISANCES TO THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
IF THE APPLICANT'S NOT WILLING TO STATE THEIR INTENDED RESTRICTIONS, MAYBE THERE NEEDS TO BE A ZONING HEARING ON A LOT BY LOT BASIS TO ENSURE THAT THE INTENDED USE FITS THE AREA.
THE NEXT AND POSSIBLY MOST IMPORTANT TOPIC THAT HAS BEEN DODGED IS THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN FOR THE BUFFER.
THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION PULLED THE EXACT DESCRIPTION FROM COUNTY ZONING FOR WHAT WOULD BE USED IN THE
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BUFFER AREA SIZE OF TREES AND SHRUBS THAT WILL BE USED DIFFERED OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 44 DAYS OF DISCUSSION OF THIS MATTER.THE REVISED PROFFERS THAT WERE SENT OUT YESTERDAY WERE THE LEAST DES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN THE WHOLE TIME.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PROXIMITY TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, THE FACT THAT IT'S AN OPEN FIELD, THIS NEEDS TO BE HELD TO A LITTLE HIGHER STANDARD IN MY OPINION THAN JUST WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET BY WITH.
UM, THEY'VE ALSO RECENTLY ADDED THAT THERE WILL BE AN OWNER'S ASSOCIATION WITH COVENANTS.
IT'LL HOLD THE TENANTS TO A STANDARD THAT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLY WORK FOR THE AREA.
THE MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT THERE'S NO DETAILS INCLUDED.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THESE COVENANTS ARE SIMPLY GOING TO STATE ALL OWNERS ARE REQUIRED TO PAY FOR LAWN MAINTENANCE IN COMMON AREAS, OR IF IT'LL ACTUALLY HOLD, HAVE RULES TO HOLD THE TENANTS ACCOUNTABLE IF THIS IS TO BE INCLUDED.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A STANDARD, STANDARD SET FOR TIDY LOTS, PROPER SCREENING REPLACEMENTS OF ITEMS IN THE BUFFER WHEN SOMETHING DIES, ET CETERA.
I'VE LIVED NEXT TO THE CURRENT PARK FOR LONG ENOUGH AND I KNOW WHAT WILL WORK THERE.
AND YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEMS THEY TAKE WAY, WAY TOO LONG AT THIS POINT TO GET RESOLVED WITHOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS IN PLACE.
AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE SURROUNDING AS RESIDENTS.
IN CONCLUSION, IT IS CLEAR THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPERLY PLANNED THIS PROPOSED PARK OR IS TRYING TO DO THE BARE MINIMUM FOR APP FOR APPROVAL.
I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE RECOMMEND THIS APPLICATION FOR DENIAL BASED ON WHAT HAS BEEN SEP SUBMITTED TONIGHT.
ANYBODY ELSE? UM, HELLO? UH, MY NAME IS HALL CARTER.
I LIVE AT 1556 BROAD STREET ROAD, ABOUT ONE MILE DUE SOUTH OF THIS PROJECT'S LOCATION.
UM, AND ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, IS WITH THE TIMELINE OF THIS APPLICATION THAT THE PROCESS HAS JUST BEEN TOO RUSHED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE TIMELINE SO FAR.
COMMUNITY MEETING WAS ON JANUARY 26TH.
THEN JUST YESTERDAY AT 10:58 AM THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY EMAILED OUT REVISED PROFFERS, WHICH MISSED THE DEADLINE.
AND ACCORDING TO YOUR COMMISSION'S BYLAWS, WHICH STATE THAT IT'S BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON THE TUESDAY BEFORE THE HEARING, THIS WAS YESTERDAY WEDNESDAY, UM, THE CITIZENS WOULD ONLY HAVE RECEIVED YESTERDAY'S EMAIL FROM THE ATTORNEY IF THEY ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY MEETING AND WROTE DOWN THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION.
UM, AND NOW TONIGHT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ONLY 35 DAYS AFTER THE INITIAL COMMUNITY MEETING.
AND WHEN I CHECKED THE COMMISSION'S AGENDA ONLINE THIS MORNING, THE AGENDA PACKET DOES NOT CONTAIN THE MOST RECENT VERSION OF THESE PROFFERS.
SO THIS PUTS THE ENTIRE PUBLIC AT A MAJOR DISADVANTAGE HERE.
UM, THE APPLICATION'S BEEN RUSHED THROUGH, I THINK JUST HOPING PEOPLE WILL, WILL NOT PAY ATTENTION.
UM, AND OF COURSE WHEN YOU ACTUALLY DIG INTO THESE PROFFERS, SEVERAL OF THE ITEMS ARE SIMPLE RECITATIONS OF THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
SO THEY AREN'T EVEN REALLY ACTUAL PROFFERS AT ALL.
UM, I THINK MS. SHERRY DID A GOOD JOB MENTIONING SOME OF THE HANDFUL OF PROFFERS THAT ARE MEANINGFUL, BUT THERE'S STILL SEVERAL THINGS LACKING, WHICH OTHER PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY HIT ON.
UM, AND SO EVEN, EVEN WITH THESE RELATIVELY WEAK PROFFERS, THE APPLICATION IS STILL SHOOTING FOR THE MORE INTENSIVE M TWO INDUSTRIAL DESIGNATION.
UM, THE CURRENT BUSINESS PARK AND THE VACANT LAND THAT WAS MENTIONED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF PONY FARM, THEY'RE BOTH M ONE.
SO WHY DOES THIS APPLICANT NEED M TWO INSTEAD OF HIM ONE? AND I THOUGHT IT'D BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYBODY TO JUST READ THE LITERAL STATEMENT OF INTENT FROM OUR COUNTY'S ZONING ORDINANCE.
FOR M ONE, IT SAYS THIS DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PERMIT CERTAIN INDUSTRIES, ONES WHICH DO NOT IN ANY WAY DETRACT FROM RESIDENTIAL DESIRABILITY TO LOCATE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES.
THIS DISTRICT ALLOWS LOWER IMPACT INDUSTRIAL USES WITH LIMITED OUTSIDE STORAGE TO PROTECT AND FOSTER ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DESIRABILITY WHILE PERMITTING INDUSTRIES TO LOCATE NEAR A LABOR SUPPLY.
AND NOW HERE'S THE STATEMENT OF INTENT FOR M TWO, WHICH SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
IT SAYS THIS DISTRICT IS INTENDED FOR HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS, WHICH MAY CREATE SOME NUISANCE, NOT PROPERLY ASSOCIATED WITH, NOR PARTICULARLY COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL, INSTITUTIONAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS.
UM, SO JUST BASED ON WHAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, JUST I'D ASK THAT YOU PLEASE RECOMMEND FOR DENIAL.
UM, WHILE THE COMP PLAN DOES NOTE THIS AREA IS INDUSTRIAL AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THIS SPECIFIC APPLICATION JUST FAILS ON TOO MANY FRONTS, UH, THAT ARE ALSO PART OF THE COMP PLAN.
THINGS LIKE MITIGATING EFFECTS ON THE COMMUNITY, ENSURING ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE AND, UM, THE SAFETY, SAFETY ITEMS THAT YOU'VE HEARD.
HELLO, I'M AARON DAWSON AT 11 404 BRICK VIEW LANE.
AND I AM IN OPPOSITION OF THIS WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOME.
UM, WE LIKED IT QUIET AND GREEN AND PEACEFUL, AND WE LIKE TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.
THE OTHER PART TO THIS THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPOKEN TO TONIGHT IS THE TRAFFIC RISK.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT, A RISK HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED, SO INCREASING THE RISK WOULD NOT BE ADVANTAGEOUS
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OR SAFE TO THE RESIDENTS.IT'S NO SURPRISE OR SHOCK TO ANYONE ABOUT THE, UM, TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF 64 GOING WEST, UH, ONTO OILVILLE ROAD.
AND I BELIEVE IT WAS ABOUT A MONTH AGO, THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT ON THE EXIT RAMP THAT CLOSED IT, AND ALL TRAFFIC HAD TO GO UP TO GUM SPRING TO GET OFF OF THE INTERSTATE.
SO THIS WOULD ONLY ADD TO ALL OF THAT IN THE FUTURE.
I ALSO LIVE AT, UH, BROOKVIEW LANE.
UM, I THINK THE FIRST GENTLEMAN SAID IT BEST.
I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING WITH REGARDS TO WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE COUNTRY.
WE LIKE THE QUIET, WE DON'T LIKE LIGHTS, WE DON'T LIKE THE TRAFFIC.
UM, I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE GONNA APPROVE THIS, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO LOOK AT.
OBVIOUSLY, THE M TWO VERSUS M ONE, UH, THE HOURS.
IF WE COULD SET SOMETHING UP WHERE THAT'S A NINE TO FIVE VERSUS A 24 7 AND THE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW, WITHOUT THIS, IT'S HORRIFIC.
AND EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT OILVILLE, THE PONY FARM.
WE LIVE IT EVERY DAY, BUT GET IN THE OFFICE 64.
NOT ONLY HAVE THERE BEEN ACCIDENTS, BUT IF YOU FOLLOW THE LAW AND GET IN THE TURN LANE, YOU WILL BE, EXCUSE ME, YOU WILL BE IN AN ACCIDENT.
SO JUST PLEASE KEEP THAT IN MIND IF YOU PLAN ON APPROVING IT.
WILLIE WISE, 74 MANNEQUIN PARK DRIVE, MANNEQUIN AVENUE, VIRGINIA.
UM, THE ATTORNEY TONIGHT TALKED ABOUT THE BUFFERS ON THE EAST SIDE, THE WEST SIDE, AND THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.
THE THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS, IS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE MOST EXPOSURE IS FOR RESIDENTS COMING DOWN THAT ROAD.
WHEN YOU COME DOWN THE ROAD, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE BUILDINGS IN THERE.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A DETAIL PLAN ON VEGETATION IN THE FRONT TO COVER UP SOME OF THOSE BUILDINGS IN THE BACK.
ALWAYS LOOK AT THE, I GUESS IT'S THE ROCKVILLE MANNEQUIN RAMP, WHICH IS REALLY HECTIC AT THIS TIME.
SOMEDAY OILVILLE MAY BE LIKE THAT.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME PRECAUTIONS AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME VEGETATION IN THE FRONT.
IF YOU TURN THE CLOCK AHEAD 10 OR 15 YEARS, THAT'S WHAT YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT.
SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE CITIZEN COMMENT, APPLICANT LIGHT TWO TO COME UP AND THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BE BRIEF, BUT I'LL, I'LL GO BACKWARDS.
I THINK FROM WHAT THE COMMENTS WERE, UH, MR. WISE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.
IT IS A 30 FOOT BUFFER AS IS REQUIRED, UH, THE, BY THE STANDARDS OF THE, UH, THE CODE, BUT IT ALSO, THAT INCLUDES A 20 FOOT DEDICATION FOR, UH, PONY FARM ROAD IS IN FRONT OF THAT, AND THEN THE BUFFER STARTS.
SO WE ARE ALREADY DOING THAT DEDICATION.
ALSO WITH RESPECT TO THE SPECIFIC LANDSCAPING, UH, WE'RE MEETING THE, THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S ALREADY SPECIFIES WHAT THAT'S SPECIFICALLY PROVIDING FOR.
AND IT'S ALSO IN THE, UH, OVER OVERLAY FOR OILVILLE, WHICH HAS ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS, THE SIGNAGE REQUIREMENTS.
SO OUR THOUGHT IS THAT THE, UH, VERY FIRST PARTS OF THE BUILDINGS, AS YOU COME IN, THOSE TWO BUILDINGS THAT YOU COME INTO, THEY'RE GONNA BE SETTING THE STANDARD OFF, OFF OF PONY FARM ROAD AS PEOPLE DRIVE BY IT.
SO NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE, UH, THE 30 FOOT BUFFER, YOU HAVE A WIDENING OF THE ROAD, THE 20 FOOT DEDICATION, BUT ALSO THE 30 FOOT BUFFER.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT ARE SET.
WERE ALSO PROVIDED FOR THE, UH, IN THE PROFFERS, THE STORAGE USES AS WELL, UH, AND SCREENING ALL OF THOSE, WHETHER ACCESSORY OR NOT, WHICH IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES.
SO THAT WOULD ADDITIONAL SCREENING IF NECESSARY, UH, WITH RESPECT TO ANYBODY THAT YOU CAN SEE OFF OF POINT FIVE ROAD, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE M ONE VERSUS M TWO, UH, ABSOLUTELY RIGHT WITH THE INTENT STATEMENT, BUT THAT IS THE INTENT STATEMENT.
AND IT HAS SPECIFIC USES THAT ARE PERMITTED.
WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE USES, FOR EXAMPLE, THE OILVILLE BUSINESS PARK, AND I CAN PULL THE PROFFERS IF YOU WANT TO.
THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF USES THEY'VE TAKEN OUT, WHICH WE'VE ALSO TAKEN OUT, UM, THAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE ALLOWED.
THAT ZONED M ONE WE'VE PROVIDED FOR NUMEROUS OTHER USES.
THOSE THAT WE THINK THAT ARE CAUSING NUISANCES OR WOULD CAUSE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS WE TAKE, WE'VE TAKEN THOSE OUT COMPLETELY.
UM, I WOULD ALSO, AS I POINTED OUT, THE 50 FOOT BUFFERS AS PROVIDING FOR LIMITATION ON THAT AS WELL WITH RESPECT TO THE TIMELINE.
THOSE, THESE ARE VERY SIMPLE CHANGES TO REV, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE REVISION OF THE REFERENCE TO THE, UH, TO THE CONCEPT PLAN.
UH, WHICH THE ONLY CHANGES WERE WITH RESPECT TO IDENTIFYING THE COMMON AREAS BECAUSE IT WAS HARD TO READ OTHERWISE.
WHAT WAS MS. SHERRY AND I HAD A DISCUSSION AND A DEBATE AS TO, IS THAT A COMMONARY OR IS THAT A PROPERTY LINE? SO WE TRIED TO IDENTIFY THAT BETTER IN THAT RESPECT.
AND THE BUILDING SETBACK, SETBACK LINES AS WAS REQUESTED.
THE OTHER CHANGE WAS A REQUEST BY A RESIDENT WITH RESPECT TO THE RETAIL,
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AND THAT'S WHAT WE PLACED IN THERE.SO AGAIN, THAT'S, THOSE ARE VERY MINUTE CHANGES, BUT THEY'RE FOR THE PROTECTION AND THE CLARIFICATION OF WHAT COMES FORWARD WITH RESPECT TO, UH, MR. CARTER'S, UH, LIST THAT HE HAD.
I'LL, I'LL TRY TO RUN THROUGH THEIRS.
UM, WE CAN'T PUT EVERY DETAIL INTO THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WITH RESPECT TO THE OWNER'S ASSOCIATION, THIS IS A PROFFER THAT I USE ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS AND NUMEROUS JURISDICTIONS.
IT SETS THE STANDARDS, INCLUDING THE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND INCLUDING THE COMMON AREAS, WHICH IS VERY TYPICAL.
WE'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS, BUT THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE REVIEWED, UH, BY THE COUNTY STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SUFFICIENT AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PROVIDED.
WE OBVIOUSLY HAVEN'T DRAFTED THOSE AT THIS TIME, AND THAT'S WHERE THE DETAIL WOULD COME IN.
WE DO THINK THAT THE LANDSCAPING, I KNOW THERE'S, FROM FRUSTRATION WITH RESPECT TO THE LANDSCAPING, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PROFFER ANYTHING THAT'S OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN THE CODE.
THAT'S THE, THE POLICY OF THE COUNTY.
IT'S REVIEWED BY, WHICH IS TYPICAL OF MOST COUNTIES.
IT'S REVIEWED BY STAFF AND REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT, UH, IDENTIFYING EXACTLY.
THERE IS SOME CONFUSION, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH RESPECT TO THE STORAGE AREA.
THAT WOULD ONLY APPLY TO THE, UH, PART THAT'S IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT IN OILVILLE.
I JUST COPIED THAT RIGHT OUTTA THE ORDINANCE TO APPLY TO THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING THAT WHICH IS NOT IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
SO THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH OR IDENTICAL, BUT THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO THE ENTIRE PROPERTY UNTIL WE'VE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE DONE THAT WITH RESPECT TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
UM, WE KNOW THIS IS A, IT'S A DIFFICULT, UH, DIFFICULT TO BE, BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR OUR BUSINESSES.
AND THESE ARE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT PEOPLE ARE OPERATING OUT OF THEIR HOMES NOW AND MAYBE ARE STARTING TO GET, EMPLOYEES WANNA BE ABLE TO HAVE A, A BUILDING THAT BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR BUSINESSES THEMSELVES.
AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE OPERATE EARLIER IN THE MORNING, SOME PEOPLE OPERATE LATER IN THE DAY.
IF YOU'RE A LANDSCAPING OPERATION AND DOING SNOW REMOVAL, MAYBE DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME YOU'RE OPERATING LATE AT NIGHT AND TR CARS ARE COMING, YOUR TRUCKS AND PLOWS ARE COMING IN, UH, DURING THE DAY AND DURING THE NIGHT AS WELL, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE NEED FOR IT IS.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING NOT TO, YOU KNOW, IT'S HAVING A HARD TIME IDENTIFYING WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
UM, WE'RE OPEN TO THE DISCUSSION, BUT I HAVEN'T TRIED TO MISLEAD ANYONE BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T PROFITED, UM, SPECIFICALLY, UH, SO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR HOURS OF OPERATION ARE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE OILVILLE BUSINESS PARK IS, AND WE THINK THAT'S, UH, IMPORTANT FOR THE OPERATION OF THE BUSINESS AND WE'RE LIMITED IN SIZE.
AND YES, THERE ARE WAYS TO GO BEYOND THE PROFFER.
THE PROFFER IS VERY SPECIFIC THAT IF WE WANT TO GO BEYOND THE 12,000 SQUARE FEET, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE 17, THAT WOULD BE IN HANOVER AND THEY HAVE TO COME IN FROM THEIR BUILDING CODE AND BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THAT.
UH, WE HAVEN'T DONE THE PROFFERS YET WITH THE COUNTY IN HANOVER AND GUC LYNN.
AND HANOVER, WE DO IT AT THE END OF THE PROCESS BEFORE, RIGHT BEFORE WE GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE STAFF RECOMMENDS THOSE SPECIFIC PROFFERS.
AND THAT WAS IN OUR DISCUSSION WITH THEM, THAT COULD VERY WELL CHANGE AND WE'LL GO, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE HANOVER PROCESS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DETAIL THAT.
UM, WITH RESPECT TO DE LACK OF DETAIL ON THE, UH, HEIGHT, UH, WE'VE GOT A 35 FOOT HEIGHT, SAME AS THE OILVILLE BUSINESS PARK.
UH, THAT'S WHAT WE PROVIDED FOR IN THE, UH, IN THE PROFFER SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE TRAFFIC AND THE TURN LANES.
UH, THE TIA HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY THE COUNTY AS WELL AS BY VDOT.
AND WE HAVE THE VDOT STANDARDS.
IT SEEMS UNNECESSARY TO BUILD ADDITIONAL PAVEMENT WHEN IT'S NOT REQUIRED.
AND THE, THE NUMBERS AND THE PROFESSIONALS HAVE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID SPECIFICALLY, THE LEFT TURN LANE IS NOT REQUIRED.
AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO THE WIDENING, THAT'S GOING TO IMPROVE IT WHEN WE PUT IN THE, UH, UM, WE PUT IN THE RIGHT TURN LANE, THAT WILL IMPROVE THE, THE TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA FOR OUR PURPOSES AS WELL.
BUT THE, THE TRAFFIC IS NOT GONNA BE COMING FROM THAT NORTH, FROM PONY FARM ROAD INTO THE, THE SITE.
UH, THE NUMBERS ARE JUST NOT THERE TO JUSTIFY, UH, THAT LEFT TURN LANE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE WAIVER.
IT'S, UH, NOTHING MORE OR LESS.
UH, VDOT HAS CONTROL OF THAT AS WELL, AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S A COUNTY STANDARD TO HAVE IT ON EVERY INSTANCE, BUT THEY DO ALLOW FOR THE WAIVER, UH, IN THAT, IN THAT TYPE, UH, OF SITUATION.
AND FINALLY, I WOULD JUST THROW OUT THAT, UM, WE HAVE TRIED TO PROVIDE FOR PROTECTION OF THE NEIGHBORS WITH THE LIMITATION ON OUR USES.
WE HAVE PROVIDED FOR THE CONCERNS THAT THEY'VE RAISED, UH, N NOT ONLY WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT'S REQUIRED, BUT CONSISTENT WITH OTHER INDUSTRIAL PARKS.
THIS IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAY WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC USERS.
UH, SOME OF THESE, UH, THE GENTLEMEN THAT ARE DEVELOPING HAVE THEIR OWN SMALL BUSINESSES THAT WILL WANT TO MOVE INTO HERE AND THERE'S A NEED FOR IT.
WE PROVIDED FOR A 50 FOOT BUFFER, WHICH IS ENHANCED BEYOND WHAT OTHERWISE IS REQUIRED, PUTTING IN THE BERM, WHICH RAISES THE LANDSCAPING, RETAINING ALL THE EXISTING AREAS AND EXISTING TREES.
AND IT IS A FARMLAND AT THIS POINT.
UM, THE ONE THING I DIDN'T MENTION WAS ABOUT THE ACCESS.
UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE LOCATED OUR ACCESS POINT SPECIFICALLY TO BE ABLE TO ALLOW FOR ACCESS ON EITHER SIDE OF US, UH, EAST OR WEST OF US, UH, FOR THOSE PROPERTIES.
THOSE PROPERTIES AREN'T ZONED CURRENTLY FOR INDUSTRIAL USES.
UH, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A, A STUB ROAD INTO THOSE USES FOR, UH, NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING TO BE THERE, IF EVER AT THIS POINT, WHICH WOULD ALSO BREAK IN THE BUFFER.
UH, WE THINK IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, WE MEET THE STANDARDS, UH, FOR VDOT AND MEET THE SPACING STANDARDS FOR THEM TO PUT IN THEIR OWN ACCESS.
UH, AND IT'S NOT REQUIRED OTHERWISE.
UH, WHILE THEY ASK FOR INTERCONNECT, INTERCONNECTIVITY, THERE'S NO CHANCE FOR INTERCONNECTIVITY OF OTHER SIMILAR ZONE PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE, WHAT IT'S CALLS FOR AT THAT POINT.
SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
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QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.WE BELIEVE WE PUT FORTH A CASE THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND WE'D ASK THAT YOU DO THAT.
I, UM, ARE YOU, ARE YOU AWARE OF THE CONGESTION AT PEAK TIMES AT THE OILVILLE PONY FARM INTERCHANGE? I, UM, I, WE'VE GOT THE, THE, UH, WE'VE GOT THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
I DON'T KNOW MALACHI, IF YOU'VE GOT THOSE NUMBERS, BUT I MEAN, CERTAINLY WE KNOW THAT THERE IS ISSUES AT THAT TIME.
YOU KNOW, FOLKS TALK ABOUT TRUCKS AND THERE ARE WILL BE TRUCKS AND THERE'LL BE SMALL BUSINESSES, BUT IT'S, THESE ARE NOT TRACTOR TRAILERS AND THIS IS, YES.
THAT'S, WE'RE NOT ADDING PURSUANT TO THE, THE TYPICAL STANDARDS.
WE'RE NOT ADDING, UH, THAT MUCH MORE TO IT THAN IT ALREADY EXISTS THAT THE NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE THAT ALREADY EXIST.
BUT WE WILL CREATE MORE TRAFFIC, THERE'S NO DOUBT AT THAT POINT.
OKAY, GENTLEMEN, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STATE.
STUB ROADS NORMALLY ON SUBDIVISIONS FOR HOMES, YOU ALL REQUEST STUB ROADS.
THIS IS, SO, UM, THE WAY THAT MR. CONLAN DESCRIBED IT IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME APPROACH THAT WE'VE BEEN TAKING.
THIS HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY VDOT AND THEY'RE THE FIRST ONES TO, TO CALL OUT A STUB ROAD.
UM, THE CONNECTIVITY, UH, TO THE, UM, INDUSTRIAL PARK WAS ALREADY, THERE WAS ALREADY A BUSINESS AT THAT LOCATION AND THE OTHER PROPERTIES WERE FARMLAND AS IT IS NOW.
YOU, I MEAN, IF I THINK IF IT WAS, UM, AN IN A RESIDENTIAL MAYBE, PERHAPS THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A SUBDIVISION TO A SUBDIVISION, A COMMERCIAL USE TO A COMMERCIAL USE.
BUT, UH, IT, IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, WARRANTED AFTER IT HAS, IT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.
IT'S JUST NOT NECESSARY IS WHAT YOU'RE YEAH, I MEAN IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED AND OKAY.
THE, THE, UM, THE CONCEPTUAL HAS BEEN BROUGHT, WE WERE DISCUSSING JUST WHEN THAT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT I, I DON'T KNOW, BUT PERHAPS THEM GOING INTO HANOVER COUNTY WAS CONSIDERED AN EXTENSION, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD POSSIBLY BE CUZ IT'S A, IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC
IF THEY ARE REQUESTING A USE THAT IS, UH, REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THEY WOULD, UM, EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, APPROVAL.
BUT WE WOULD STILL HAVE APPROVAL ON EACH LOT, EVEN AFTER THIS, UM, APPROVAL OF, UM, ANYTHING THAT WOULD, UH, UM, OVERSIGHT SUCH AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
BUT YES, UH, WE, WE DO, WE WOULD OVERSEE EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THAT WOULD JUST BE WHATEVER IS REQUIRED BY THE ORDINANCE.
AND, AND IF IS THE, IS THE ORVILLE INDUSTRIAL PARK? IT'S THE M ONE NOW.
I BELIEVE IT'S M TWO, M TWO, UH, BUT, BUT THEY'RE, IT'S OLD ENOUGH THAT THEY ARE, WHAT THEY'RE ANSWER WHAT THE LIMITATIONS ON THIS WITH THEIR, IN, WITH THIS ZONING IS IDENTICAL TO WHAT THEY HAVE IN THAT NOW.
UM, THERE ARE SOME PROFFERS ON THAT, UM, ON THAT SITE, I DID MENTION 'EM IN THE STAFF REPORT.
LET'S SEE IF I CAN REMEMBER 'EM ALL.
THERE IS THE 50 FOOT BUFFER THAT'S REQUIRED.
AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT WHEN THAT WAS DEVELOPED, UM, THERE WAS A FULL TREE STAND THERE.
SO THERE WAS LARGE, UH, ALREADY, UH, MATURE TREES.
SO THE FOREIGN LAND THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE, THERE'S AREAS OF, OF TREES, BUT THE WHOLE THING WAS, SO THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PLANTINGS THAT WOULD, UH, BE REQUIRED PER OUR ORDINANCE.
BUT IF I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO SOMETHING THAT MR. CONLAN SAID, THE, UM, THE PROFFERS THAT THEY HAVE, WE, WE WERE, UM, DOING A LOT OF WORK OVER THE LAST WEEK OR SO, AND THE PROFFERS THAT, UM, WERE NOTED BY ONE OF THE CITIZENS THAT WERE THE MOST LEAST RE LEAST RESTRICTIVE OR THE LEAST OFFERING WERE THE ONES THAT CAME THROUGH.
NOW, UH, THE CONVERSATION BETWEEN ME AND MR. CONLAN WERE THAT WE DO HAVE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS AND WHAT THEY WERE OFFERING IN ADDITION TO THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY AN, I MEAN, IT, IT WASN'T CON IT WASN'T WORKING TOGETHER, SO THEY WEREN'T REALLY OFFERING IT IN ADDITION TO IT, THEY WERE OFFERING THAT AS THEIR, UM, PROFFER.
SO I, I HAD HOPED TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, THERE, THERE COULD BE ADDITIONAL, UH, LANDSCAPING, UM, OFFERED GENTLEMEN, AND MS. SHERRY, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST GO TO THE ZING MAPS? THERE'S NO CONFUSION.
I THINK THE OIL VOTE IS, THANK YOU ONE, THANK YOU.
IT'S M ONE ACROSS THE, ACROSS THE STREET, SO YES, IT'S THE SAME COLOR PURPLE.
FORGIVE ME, I GOT THE WRONG, UH, DESIGNATION.
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QUESTIONS? OKAY.WE NEED ONE TO WAIVE THE TIMELINE BRIEF ETERNALLY UHHUH FOR THE RIGHT? CORRECT.
I GUESS I KNOW THAT WE, WE HAD A CASE, UH, ON THIS PROPERTY, UM, NOT TOO LONG AGO FOR A DIFFERENT USE.
AND I KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF THE FOLKS THAT SPOKE, UH, UM, IN OPPOSITION OF THAT USE SAID THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AS AN, UH, INDUSTRIAL USE.
UM, BUT NOW THAT, THAT SEEMS TO BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS STATED AT THE PREVIOUS, UM, CASE FOR THE SAME PLAT OF LAND.
SO THIS, THIS WAS THE ELKS PROPERTY, CORRECT? YEAH.
AND GENTLEMEN, JUST ONE MORE CLARIFICATION.
THE FIRST VOTE IS TO WAIVE, TO RE REVIEW THE REVISED PROPERS AS YOU HAVE ON THE DAY, AS I THINK MR. DUKE.
I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY TURN LANE.
IT'S THE TIMELINE, RIGHT? RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL TO WAIVE? I WILL.
WE APPROVE THE TIMELINE CHANGE.
APPROVAL FOR THE TIMELINE TO WAIVE.
SECONDLY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION.
THIS IS WHAT THIS AREA IS, SHOULD BE USED FOR.
I KNOW THAT THERE CONCERNS ABOUT IT, BUT I, I, UH, I MAKE A MOTION.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A THREE ONE VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE HEARD BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APRIL 18TH, 2023, WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR FINAL ITEM TONIGHT IS IN DISTRICT FOUR, RZ 20 23, 2, APPLICATION BY GLAND COUNTY VIRGINIA REQUESTING A
[2. District 4 - RZ-2023-00002 – Application by Goochland County, Virginia requesting a rezoning of 5 acres from Industrial, Limited (M-1), with proffered conditions, to Business, General (B-1), with proffered conditions, at the eastern line of Hockett Road approximately 900 feet north of the intersection with Tuckahoe Creek Parkway on Tax Map No. 58-32-3-53-A. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Prime Economic Development.]
REZONING OF FIVE ACRES FROM INDUSTRIAL LIMITED M ONE WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS TO BUSINESS GENERAL B ONE WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS AT THE EASTERN LINE OF HOCKETT ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 900 FEET NORTH OF THE INTERSECTION WITH TUCKAHOE CREEK PARKWAY ON TAX MAP 58 32 3 53 A.THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
CAN YOU GIVE IT A SECOND BEFORE THEY SURE.
MEMBERS COMMISSION AGAIN, TOM COLEMAN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER.
UM, AS MS. PARKER SAID, THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO A BUSINESS ZONING WITH PROFFERS FIVE ACRES, UH, FOR A NEW FIRE RESCUE STATION.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND PROPERTIES GENERALLY TO THE EAST AND SOUTH SHARE AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING, UH, PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, UM, AND TO THE WEST ACROSS H ROAD INCLUDE AGRICULTURAL AND RESIDENTIAL ZONINGS.
UH, GENERALLY ON THIS AREA, UM, THE AREA, THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST, UH, EXCUSE ME, TO THE EAST OF HOCK ROAD, ARE ALL RECOMMENDED FOR PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PROPERTIES TO THE WEST OF POCKET ROAD SHARE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY RECOMMENDATION.
LOOKING AT THE, UH, AREA PHOTO SORT OF REFLECTS THE, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND SOUTH, WHICH ARE GENERALLY, UM, RECOMMENDED FOR OR GENERALLY, UH, INDUSTRIALLY ZONED, UM, ARE VACANT.
IF YOU GET A LITTLE FURTHER TO THIS.
FURTHER TO THE EAST, YOU SEE THE CARMACK SITE, UM, PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST.
CROSS OCK ROAD REFLECT, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPOSED USE IS FOR A NEW FIRE RESCUE STATION.
UM, THE IS FOR AN APPROXIMATELY 15,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
UH, THE BUILDING WOULD, UH, INITIALLY INCLUDE THREE DRIVE-THROUGH BAYS WITH A POTENTIAL FOR FOURTH BAY, AND THERE WOULD ALSO BE A COMMUNITY TRAINING ROOM, UM, REFLECTING THE, THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, PROPERTIES THAT, THAT ARE TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST CROSS OCK ROAD OF THE CLOSEST HOUSES, THE CLOSEST DWELLINGS, UH, TO THE PROPOSED BUILDING OR ABOUT 300 FEET.
UM, AND JUST THE, THE HIGHLIGHT OF THAT PROPOSED BUILDING IS AN ESTIMATE ESTIMATED LOCATION OF THAT BUILDING.
A SUMMARY OF THE ZONING AS IT APPLIES THAT THIS APPLICATION, THE FIRE STATION IS ALREADY PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
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CURRENT ZONING AND PROFFERS, UH, THE EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT WAS APPROVED IN 1989 TO REGULATE DEVELOPMENT OF THE WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK, AND THE PROFFERS ARE APPROPRIATE TO REGULATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT BUSINESS PARK, INCLUDING, UH, THE ADDRESS, UH, COMMON PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ARCH ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, AND DO PROVIDE FOR SIGNIFICANT SETBACKS.UM, BUT THOSE, UM, THAT ZONING AND THOSE PROFFERS WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR FIRE STATION APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION WOULD REMOVE, UH, THOSE PROFFERS FROM THIS SITE, LEAST THE H ROAD.
UH, HOCKER ROAD IS IDENTIFIED AS A MAJOR COLLECTOR IN THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN WITH AN ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY UP TO 70 FEET.
UM, IMPORTANTLY WITH THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN TO DETERMINE THAT HOCKETT ROAD FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE WOULD REMAIN A TWO-LANE UNDIVIDED ROADWAY.
UM, THE FIRE STATION DOES NOT GENERATE SUFFICIENT TRAFFIC TO REQUIRE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND, UH, THERE ARE NO ACCESS MANAGEMENT CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE PROPOSED STATION SITE TO TUCK CREEK PARKWAY.
ALSO A TUCK, UH, EXCUSE ME, HOCKER ROAD DOES HAVE A POSTED SPEED LIMIT OF 55 MILES PER HOUR.
UM, A SPEED STUDY MAY BE REQUESTED AFTER CONSTRUCTION OF THE STATION IF APPROVED, BUT THERE IS NO ASSURANCE THAT THE SPEED LIMIT WILL BE REDUCED.
UM, TRAFFIC STUDIES HAVE PREVIOUSLY DETERMINED THAT A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IS NOT WARRANTED AT THE HOCKETT ROAD TUCK CREEK PARKWAY INTERSECTION.
UM, SIGNAL WARRANT ANALYSIS MAY BE CONDUCTED PERIODICALLY.
AGAIN, THERE ARE NO PLANS AT THIS TIME TO INSTALL A SIGNAL ROUNDABOUT OR SIMILAR TRAFFIC CONTROL, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THAT INTERSECTION AS IT RELATES MORE SPECIFICALLY TO THE SITE, UM, INGRESS AND EGRESS TO HOCK ROAD SITE LINES, EMERGENCY SIGNALIZATION, PREEMPTIVE SIGNAGE AND OTHER TYPE OF TRAFFIC CONTROL OPTIONS WILL BE REVIEWED AND ANALYZED AS A PART OF THE ENGINEERING SITE DESIGN, AND OF COURSE, VIDO WILL BE ENGAGED IN THAT ANALYSIS.
UH, THIS, UH, INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT THAT THE STATION WOULD BE STAFFED BY, YOU KNOW, CAREER PERSONNEL, UH, VOLUNTEER PARTICIPATION WOULD BE ENCOURAGED AND IT WOULD BE AN AMBULANCE ASIDE ASSIGNED TO THE STATION.
JUST LOOK AT THE, UH, EXCEPTIONAL PLAN AND EXCEPTIONAL PLAN IS PROFFERED.
I JUST A NOTE FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS IS AN EXHIBIT ONLY, IT IS NOT PROFFERED, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE SORT OF A, A CONS, A RENDERING OF SORT OF THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW, THE ARROW PHOTO PHOTOGRAPH VIEW OF WHAT THIS WILL LOOK LIKE.
UH, THIS APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH A NUMBER OF PREVIOUS COUNTYWIDE PLANNING APPROVALS THAT WOULD INCLUDE IT.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE 25 20 35 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THE PUBLIC FACILITIES PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED 2018 AND WITH THE BOND REFERENDUM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY WAS, THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY VOTERS IN 2021.
UH, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD IN JANUARY.
THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 43 ATTENDEES, INCLUDING BOARD MEMBERS, MR. PETERSON AND MR. FODDERS AND PLANNING COMMISSIONER MR. PUCK.
UM, THERE WERE, UH, A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS CONCERNED RAISED WITH THIS REQUEST, INCLUDING THE SELECTION OF THIS SITE AS OPPOSED TO OTHER SITES, UH, THE POTENTIAL VOLUME OF EMERGENCY CALLS, UH, FIRE RESCUE STAFFING, THE POTENTIAL FOR OFFICE SPACE FOR THE SHERIFF, OTHER POTENTIAL USES FOR THE SITE, UH, TRAFFIC SPEEDS AND SAFETY AND OTHER RELATED MATTERS TO HOCKETT ROAD.
UM, EMERGENCY SIGNALIZATION, UH, NOISE FROM TRUCKS AND SIRENS, AND JUST A NUMBER OF ITEMS AND, UH, WERE DISCUSSED.
AND OVERALL, SEVERAL OF THE ATTENDEES EXPRESSED SUPPORT AND SEVERAL ATTENDEES EXPRESSED CONCERNS WITH THIS APPLICATION.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THREE PROFFERS.
UM, THE FIRST ONE WOULD, UH, LIMIT THE USE OF THE SITE TO THE FIRE RESCUE STATION AND GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
THE SECOND ONE, UH, WOULD, UM, COMMIT TO AN EXCEPTIONAL PLAN THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER.
AND THE LAST ONE, UH, DEALS WITH THE ARCHITECTURAL TREATMENT OF REFUSE CONTAINERS.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WAS THERE ANY IN THE FIRE STATION, ANY OTHER PLACE, LIKE WITH AN ENTRANCE OVER ON TUCKER PARKWAY OR SOMETHING? I MEAN, UM, THIS SITE WAS ACQUIRED TO LOCATE THE FIRE STATION.
I THINK, UH, DURING, DURING THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION, THEY MAY TOUCH ON OTHER SITES THAT, THAT WERE CONSIDERED, UH, KIND OF DEFER TO THE APPLICANT TO, TO DISCUSS THAT
LIKE TO SPEAK MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF
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THE COMMISSION, MS. JACKSON, MS. PARKER.I'M THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR GUCCI COUNTY TONIGHT, I'M HERE BEFORE YOU TO ASK YOUR APPROVAL FOR OUR REQUEST FOR A REZONING OF FIVE ACRES OF LAND ON H ROAD.
IN ORDER TO BUILD A FIRE STATION, GUCCI COUNTY NEEDS A FIRE STATION HERE TO ADDRESS ISSUES RELATED TO GROWTH IN THE EASTERN END OF THE COUNTY.
A FIRE STATION BUILT HERE WILL OPTIMIZE OUR 9 1 1 RESPONSE TIMES A NEW STATION.
ADDITIONALLY WOULD BE THE FIRST ADDITIONAL SERVICE AREA ADDED SINCE THE 1950S OR SIXTIES TO GIN COUNTY.
BUILDING A STATION HERE WOULD SUPPORT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS STRATEGIC GOAL OF PROVIDING HIGH QUALITY PUBLIC SERVICES.
SO WHY ARE WE HERE ASKING? WELL, IT'S IMPORTANT TO START BY STATING THAT CURRENT ZONING ALREADY ALLOWS A FIRE STATION TO BE BUILT HERE BY WRIGHT.
NO REZONING IS REQUIRED, ACTUALLY BUILT A FIRE STATION.
HOWEVER, THE PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE IS LOCATED IN AN EXISTING ZONING DISTRICT M ONE THAT HAS PROFFERS THAT WERE ATTACHED IN 1989 WHEN WEST CREEK WAS DEVELOPED.
THOSE PROFFERS, THOUGH APPROPRIATE FOR A BUSINESS PARK, ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A COUNTY OWNED FIRE STATION.
THEY INCLUDE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND CONTROL FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS TOWARDS RUNNING THE BUSINESS PARK AND SIGNIFICANT SETBACKS.
BY PROVING THIS REZONING, THOSE PROFFERS WOULD BE REMOVED.
SO WHY ARE WE WANTING TO PLACE A FIRE STATION ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY? WELL, CHIEF EDDIE FERGUSON WILL REVIEW IN BETTER DETAIL WHY WE NEED THE STATION AND WHY WE WISH TO PLACE IT HERE.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M EDDIE FERGUSON, THE FIRE CHIEF FOR GLAND COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FIRE, RESCUE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, GLAND COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF FIRE, RESCUE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES CURRENTLY HAS SIX FIRE STATION LOCATIONS SPREAD OUT THROUGH THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE COMPANY ONE IN MANNEQUIN, COMPANY TWO EN CROZIER, THREE IN CENTERVILLE, FOUR IS IN FIFE, FIVE IS IN THE COURTHOUSE, AND SIX IS IN THE HAYDENVILLE AREA OF THE COUNTY.
FIVE OF THE SIX FIRE STATIONS PRESENTLY ARE OWNED BY THE VOLUNTEER ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED.
STATION SIX BUILT IN 2017 IS THE ONLY, UH, OWNED COUNTY FIRE STATION.
TODAY'S FIRE RESCUE SERVICES HAVE MANY DIFFERENT CHALLENGES THAN WE DID YEARS AGO.
WE REQUIRE MODERN FIRE STATIONS TO ADDRESS THE CONTROL OF THE CONTAMINATION THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.
AS AN EXAMPLE, AS YOU MAY KNOW, FIREFIGHTERS ARE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO CANCER THAN THE GENERAL US POPULATION.
SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THE EXISTING FIRE STATIONS, MR. CARPENTER HAD INDICATED THAT MOST OF THE EXISTING FIRE STATIONS, FIVE, THOSE FIVE VOLUNTEER OWNED FIRE STATIONS, UH, FOUR OF THOSE WERE BUILT BACK IN THE LATE 1950S, EARLY 1960S.
THE VOLUNTEER ASSOCIATION IS PRESENTLY HAS AN EFFORT UNDERFOOT WHERE THEY'RE RENOVATING SOME OF THE BUILDINGS TO TRY TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THE MODERN FEATURES THAT THAT ONLY CONTROLLED THE CONTAMINATION I SPOKE OF, BUT ALSO ACCOMMODATE 24 HOUR STAFF.
MANY OF THE STATIONS BUILT IN THAT ERA OF TIME AND THERE'S ORIGINAL SIX FOOTPRINTS WERE ONLY DESIGNED A GARAGE APPARATUS WITH VOLUNTEER MEMBERS RESPONDED FROM HOME.
AND NOW WE HAVE, UM, CAREER PERSONNEL AND VOLUNTEER MEMBERS STAYING IN THE FACILITY OVERNIGHT.
THE COUNTY IS LOOKING AT ADDING ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, THE WEST CREEK FIRE STATION.
NUMBER SEVEN IS THE TOPIC HERE TONIGHT.
WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT, UH, SANDY HOOK AND THERE ARE OTHER PLACES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT SHOW UP IN OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
THE CALL VOLUME IS INCREASING, UH, IN THE COUNTY, PARTICULARLY IN THE EASTERN END, COVERED PRIMARILY BY COMPANY ONE IN MANNEQUIN AND COMPANY THREE IN CENTERVILLE, BUT IN PARTICULAR THAT NORTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE COUNTY THERE AT CENTERVILLE, UH, WE'RE SEEING A BIG JUMP IN CALL VOLUME.
IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE, UM, THE CALL VOLUME AS SHOWN THERE ON THE SLIDE IN 2022, FIRE RESCUE ANSWERED 4,397 INCIDENTS.
THAT WAS A 14% INCREASE OVER 2021, BUT THE YEAR BEFORE COMING OUTTA THE PANDEMIC, WE SAW A 22% INCREASE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, RESPONSE DISTRICT'S MANNEQUIN, UH, HAS INCREASED TO 679 RESPONSES, BUT 262 OF THOSE RESPONSES ALSO REQUIRED THE ASSISTANCE OF OTHER COMPANIES RESPONDED INTO THE MANNEQUIN DISTRICT TO HANDLE THOSE CALLS.
THE SAME THING IS TRUE IN CENTERVILLE OF THE 1,115 RESPONSES THERE AT COMPANY THREE, THREE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY THREE OF THOSE REQUIRED ASSISTANCE FROM OTHER COMPANIES COMING IN.
NOW, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN BECAUSE, UH, COMPANY ONE OR COMPANY THREE OR MAYBE BOTH WERE ALREADY ON A CALL BECAUSE THE CHANCES OF CALLS OCCURRING SIMULTANEOUSLY HAPPENS ON PRETTY FREQUENTLY IN THAT AREA OF THE COUNTY, OR IT COULD HAVE BEEN THE TYPE OF CALL THAT REQUIRED MORE ASSISTANCE, MORE STAFFING, MORE EMERGENCY RESPONDERS ON THE FIRE GROUND.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT FIRE STATIONS CAN ONLY HANDLE TYPICALLY
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ONE INCIDENT AT A TIME.UH, COULD COULD BE ANY, ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
COMPANIES 2, 4, 5 AND SIX, ALL TO THE CENTRAL AND THE WEST OF THE EASTERN END ROUTINELY MOVE INTO THE EASTERN END OF THE COUNTY TO HELP COVER THOSE CALLS.
BUT THAT ALSO ADDS TO, UH, THE RESPONSE TIMES TO GET INTO THOSE AREAS.
AND WHEN THOSE COMPANIES IN THE CENTRAL AREAS OF THE COUNTY AND WESTERN AREAS ARE MOVING, UH, EAST OR, OR ANY ANY LOCATION OUT OF THEIR DISTRICT, THEN THAT LEAVES THOSE AREAS WITHOUT ADEQUATE, ADEQUATE COVERAGE.
THE AREA IS PRESENTLY SERVED BY COMPANY ONE IN MANNEQUIN AND COMPANY THREE IN CENTERVILLE.
IT'S A DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA PER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND INCLUDES CENTERVILLE VILLAGE AND THE WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK INCLUDES ROUTE 2 88, INTERSTATE 64 ASHLAND ROAD, BROAD STREET ROAD, AND PATTERSON AVENUE AND OTHER HEAVILY TRAVELED ROADWAYS.
THE EASTERN OF THE COUNTY, AS WE'VE ALREADY MENTIONED, IS RAPIDLY GROWING WITH RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS AND ALSO INDUSTRIAL.
AND THIS IS, UH, PARLEY IN FACT DUE.
THIS IS THE AREA OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY AND ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE TUCKO CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT.
SINCE 2017, WE HAVE NOTED THAT COMPANY ONE'S CALLS HAVE INCREASED BY 68% AND COMPANY THREE'S CALLS HAVE INCREASED BY 55%.
AND WE HAVE SEEN THOSE NUMBERS ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE, THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT IS EITHER ALREADY OCCURRED OR IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR IS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR APPROVAL, THESE ALL IMPACT, UH, THE FIRE RESCUE'S ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO CALLS IN A TIMELY MANNER AND HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO HANDLE THESE CALLS.
THE EASTERN END, AS WE SAID, IS RAPIDLY GROWING.
UM, AND WE USE A PREDICTIVE LYTICS TO PROJECT FUTURE CALLS.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE LOOK AT PRO CAPITA, THE POPULATION AND THE NUMBER OF CALLS WE HAVE.
UH, THERE'S SOME BEST LOGIC, UH, BEST PRACTICES SUCH AS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ASSISTED LIVING UNITS.
IT'S, IT'S ONE CALL FOR EVERY THREE UNITS.
AND SKILLED NURSING BEDS TYPICALLY GENERATE ONE, AT LEAST ONE CALL PER YEAR.
WHEN WE LOOKED AT ALL THIS GROWTH IN DEVELOPMENT SEVERAL YEARS AGO, IT WAS ABOUT 3,500 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, WE ESTIMATED THAT THAT COULD GENERATE AN ADDITIONAL 1000 FIRE RESCUE CALLS ON TOP OF WHAT WE ARE HANDLING TODAY.
AND WE CERTAINLY SEEM TO BE ON TRACK TO, UM, TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF INCREASE.
I'LL JUST POINT OUT SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S LISTED ON THE, THE SLIDE SHELTER IN ARMS HOSPITAL.
UH, WE RESPONDED TO THE SHELTER IN ARMS HOSPITAL AND PRETTY ALMOST 250 TIMES IN 2022 FOR PATIENT TRANSFERS TO OTHER MEDICAL FACILITIES AND ALSO FIRE ALARMS AND OTHER EMERGENCIES THERE AT THE SITE.
UH, WE'RE CERTAINLY, UH, LOOKING AT AN INCREASE OF CALLS THERE AT AVERY POINT.
UM, AVERY POINT IS A, IS A LARGE, UH, ASSISTED LIVE AND RETIREMENT TYPE COMMUNITY THAT ALSO HAS A, A GOOD NUMBER OF SKILLED NURSING BEDS ASSOCIATED WITH IT WHEN IT'S FULLY BUILT OUT AND WE'RE EXPECTING, UM, WE ESTIMATED ABOUT 484 CALLS THERE BASED ON THE, THE MIXED NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF UNITS THERE.
AND THEN WE WERE LEARNED FROM TALKING TO, UM, FOLKS IN BALTIMORE THAT THEY PRETTY MUCH SEE ABOUT 500 FIRE RESCUE RESPONSES TO THE F TO THE, UM, ERICKSON PROJECT THAT THERE IS IN, THAT'S IN BALTIMORE, UH, MARYLAND.
SO I THINK, UH, I THINK OUR, OUR MATH IS, IS PRETTY CLOSE BASED ON WHAT WE PREDICTED.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OCCURRING IN THE CENTERVILLE DISTRICT NORTH OF I 64.
PROJECT ROCKY AND OTHER INDUSTRIAL, UH, USES THE HOCKETT LOCATION THAT'S BEEN OFFERED THAT WE HAVE SELECTED FROM THE DEVELOPER.
UH, WE BELIEVE WILL WILL SERVE WELL ON H ROAD FOR THE NEW WEST CREEK FIRE STATION.
IT'LL MEET OUR NEEDS TO ADDRESS THE GROWTH AND DEMANDS OF THE FUTURE.
NOT ONLY DOES IT SERVE THE BUSINESS PARK, BUT IT'S ON THE PERIPHERY OF THE BUSINESS PARK, WHICH ALLOWS US TO SERVE THE COMMUNITIES, THE EXPLOSIVE RESIDENTIAL GROUP GROWTH THAT HAS OCCURRED THERE ON HOCK ROAD WITH NEIGHBORHOODS SUCH AS READERS BRANCH AND MOSAIC AND OTHER ONES THAT ARE ON ON THE, UH, CONSIDERATION.
THE OTHER THING I'LL TELL YOU IS THAT THE CRITERIA FOR THE FIRE STATION SITE OPTIMIZES RESPONSE TIMES FOR FIRE RESCUE PERSONNEL.
IT DOES BUILD UPON THE ONE, THREE AND FIVE MILE RESPONSE RADIUSES, NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST ROAD CONNECTIVITY.
AND FIVE TO EIGHT ACRES IS USUALLY WHAT WE LOOK FOR FOR FIRE STATION SITE.
SO WE THINK, WE THINK THE PROPERTY, THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF PROPERTIES THERE, IT DOES MINIMIZE THE ONE WAY IN AND OUT CONNECTIVITY AND ABILITY TO SUPPORT EXISTING FIRE STATIONS.
AND IT DOES PROVIDE MULTIPLE ROUTES FOR RESPONSE, WHICH WE
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THINK WILL IMPACT RESPONSE TIMES.IT'LL ALSO ALLOW US TO SERVE THAT AREA OF WEST CREEK IN THE NORTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE COUNTY ON WILSHIRE PARKWAY.
ALL THOSE BUSINESSES ALONG WILSHIRE PARKWAY, THE APARTMENTS, THE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING, SHELTER IN ARMS, THE RESIDENTS IN AND NOW AVERY POINT, THAT SEEMS TO BE WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE CALLS ARE, ARE INCREASING THERE IN THE WEST CREEK, UH, BUSINESS PARK, GUZMAN COUNTY, DEPARTMENT OF FIRE, RESCUE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES, WE'RE ON ALL HAZARD FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.
WE ADDRESS FIRE, EMS, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS, TECHNICAL RESCUE, WATER RESCUE IN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
THE MAP HERE SHOWS OUR EXISTING SIX LOCATIONS WITH ONE, THREE AND FIVE MILE DRIVE DISTANCES AROUND THE, THE RADIUS OF THE STATIONS.
THE COUNTY IS LARGE, IT'S ALMOST 290 SQUARE MILES.
IT'S ABOUT 30, 30 MILES LONG, AND WE HAVE INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS THAT CONNECT IT AND JAMES RIVER TO THE SOUTH AS WELL AS CS X RAILROAD TRACKS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCATIONS OF THE PRESENT FIRE STATIONS, YOU CERTAINLY WILL SEE THAT THERE ARE DEFINITELY SOME GAPS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY WHERE WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT ADDITIONAL FIRE STATIONS IN THE FUTURE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S AVAILABLE TODAY, AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE MAJORITY OF THE CALLS CARRYING IN THE EAST END, IT'S A, IT'S A LONG DISTANCE FOR COMPANIES TO TRAVEL FROM THE WEST END OR TO FROM THE CENTRAL TO THE EAST END.
AND RESPONSE TIMES ARE DEFINITELY, UH, INCREASED BECAUSE AS A RESULT OF THAT, AND ADDITIONALLY, AS WE HAVE ALREADY SAID, THOSE AREAS ARE LEFT VACANT WITHOUT ADEQUATE EMERGENCY MEDICAL AND FIRE RESOURCES WHEN THEY HAVE TO MOVE TO ADDRESS CALLS THAT ARE OCCURRING IN THE EASTERN END.
THE WEST CREEK FIRE STATION WILL SHORE UP COVERAGE IN THE EASTERN END PROVIDING DIRECT SUPPORT TO COMPANIES ONE AND THREE.
THOSE RESPONSE DISTRICTS, THE STATION WILL BE STAFFED WITH A FIRE ENGINE AND AN AMBULANCE AND WILL BE STAFFED BY CAREER PERSONNEL AS WELL AS VOLUNTEER PERSONNEL AS OFTEN AS AVAILABLE.
COMPANY ONE IN THREE CAN ONLY HANDLE ONE INCIDENT AT A TIME.
YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE.
IT COULD BE A HEAD ON COLLISION, IT COULD BE A HEART ATTACK, UH, IT COULD BE A MEDICAL CALL OR IT COULD BE A STRUCTURE FIRE OR IT COULD BE SOME TYPE OF CALL OF LOW ACUITY.
AND WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT NEXT CALL IS GONNA BE.
IT COULD BE THE, SOME OF THE SAME TYPES OF OF CALLS ALREADY MENTIONED.
I HAD ALREADY MENTIONED THAT IN 2022 WE SAW 4,397 FIRE AND EMS CALLS A RECORD YEAR OF ACTIVITY FAIR DEPARTMENT.
ABOUT 75% OF THOSE CALLS WERE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES CALLS.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S TOO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU SEE IN MOST OF FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENTS AND CERTAINLY THOSE THAT ARE DEVELOPING IN, IN LOCALITIES THAT ARE, THAT ARE BECOMING DEVELOPED.
I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UH, MINUTES MATTER.
AND SO THE RESPONSE TIMES FIRES CAN DOUBLE IN SIZE EVERY 30 SECONDS.
TODAY, YOU ONLY HAVE THREE TO FOUR MINUTES TO GET OUT OF YOUR HOME IF IT'S ON FIRE COMPARED TO ALMOST 17 MINUTES 30 YEARS AGO.
AND THIS IS DUE BASED ON THE MATERIALS AND THE FURNISHINGS THAT OUR HOMES ARE BUILT OF TODAY.
THEY BURN MUCH HOTTER, UH, QUICKER, UH, WITH MORE TOXIC SMOKE AND SO FORTH.
SHORTENING EMS RESPONSE TIMES INCREASE THE SURVIVAL FROM SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST CPR PLUS THE USE OF THE A E D OR DEFIBRILLATION INCREASES SURVIVAL RATES AS HIGH AS 49 TO 75%.
AND BRAIN DAMAGE CAN OCCUR WITHOUT OXYGEN IN AS LITTLE AS FOUR TO SIX MINUTES, A PERSON CAN BLEED TO DEATH IN THREE TO FIVE MINUTES.
LOOKING AT N F P A NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION, THE RECOMMENDATIONS ON HOW MANY PERSONNEL IT TAKES TO HANDLE CERTAIN TYPES OF FIRE EMERGENCIES, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, A STRUCTURE FIRE, IF YOU'RE USING AN AERIAL DEVICE, MAY REQUIRE AS MANY AS 15 PERSONNEL, AN OPEN AIR STRIP MALL, 27 MEMBERS, A GARDEN APARTMENT, UH, 4 27 MEMBERS, AND A HIGH RISE 40 42, UH, MEMBERS.
AND CERTAINLY YOU MAY THINK THAT WE DON'T HAVE HIGH RISES IN GUC LIMB, BUT THE DEFINITION OF A HIGHRISE WOULD BE ANYTHING OVER 75 FEET TALL, ANY BUILDING OVER THAT HEIGHT.
AND CERTAINLY WE DO HAVE, UM, SOME BUILDINGS THAT ARE SIX AND SEVEN STORIES AS FAR AS IN WEST CREEK, IF YOU COUNT THE THE PENTHOUSE TYPE ROOFTOP.
AND I KNOW THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT ON ASHLAND ROAD THAT'S THAT'S PREDICTED THAT POSSIBLY THE BUILDING COULD BE AS TALL AS A HUNDRED AND AND 20 FEET.
IT'S A HIGH RISE FOR THE INTENTS OF, OF WHAT IT WOULD WOULD TAKE TO SERVE THAT BUILDING FOR EMERGENCIES.
ONE THING N F P A LEAVES OUT IS WHAT IF THERE IS NO WATER SUPPLY? IF YOU DON'T HAVE FIRE HYDRANT IN YOU IN A RURAL AREA OF THE COUNTY, THEN WE MAY HAVE AS MANY PEOPLE HANDLING RURAL WATER SUPPLY USING TANKERS TO SHUTTLE WATER IN AS WE DO ON THE FIRE GROUND AFFECTING FIRE SUPPRESSION.
UM, I'LL TURN THE PRESENTATION BACK OVER TO COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
UH, MR. CARPENTER FOR OUR NEXT SLIDE TO FINISH UP THE PRESENTATION.
I THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT.
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IT GOES, MR. CARPENTER.SO I WAS ASKED EARLIER BY MR. ROCKET CHARLIE ABOUT HAVE WE LOOKED AT OTHER PROPERTIES, UM, IN, IN SELECTING THIS ONE.
SO LEMME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY AND GUCCI COUNTY'S INVOLVEMENT WITH IT.
BACK IN 2012, UH, PROPERTY WAS OFFERED TO THE COUNTY, UH, BY WEST CREEK ASSOCIATES SOMEWHERE IN THIS WEST CREEK AREA.
AFTER SEVERAL YEARS OF LOOKING AT AS MANY AS FIVE SITES, UH, COUNTY STAFF IN 2019 DETERMINED THAT THIS SITE WAS THE PREFERRED CHOICE AND A PUBLIC COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD IN 2019 REGARDING THIS SITE AS THAT LOCATION IN 2022, THE PROPERTY WAS DONATED TO GUTCHEN COUNTY IN JANUARY OF 2023.
ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD ABOUT THIS SITE REGARDING THIS REZONING APPLICATION THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
CHRISTIAN COUNTY UNDERSTANDS THE IMPACTS OF BUILDING A FIRE STATION IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT IT HAS IMPACTS ON THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE THERE.
WE COMMIT TO, TO BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, BOTH IN OUR DESIGN AND OUR OPERATIONAL POLICIES.
WE COMMIT TO REGULARLY AND DO QUALITY MAINTENANCE OF THIS FACILITIES.
WE WILL OPERATE LIGHTS AND SIRENS IN STRICT ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAWS.
WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO ENSURE THAT ROUTINE FUNCTIONS THAT WE CONDUCT ARE DONE IN A MINIMALLY INTRUSIVE FASHION.
AND WE'LL CONDUCT, WE'LL CONSTRUCT THIS FACILITY TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT AS ALL OTHER FACILITIES ARE REQUIRED TO DO IN THIS COUNTY.
SO WHERE WOULD WE GO FROM HERE? WELL, IF APPROVALS SECURED THE FUNDING FOR THIS SEC FOR THIS IS, THE FUNDING FOR THIS FACILITY HAS ALREADY BEEN SECURED.
SO UPON RECEIVING THE APPROVALS, WE'LL BEGIN THE DESIGN, THE BIDDING AND THE CONSTRUCTION PHASES FOR THE STATION.
WE WOULD ANTICIPATE IT WOULD TAKE BETWEEN 18 TO 24 MONTHS TO BUILD AND COMPLETE THIS FACILITY.
GENTLEMEN, THIS IS THE CULMINATION OF A LONG PROCESS.
IT BEGAN WITH A CON COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2015.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT PLAN.
OUR APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PUBLIC FACILITIES PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN 2018.
OUR APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BOND REFERENDUM FOR PUBLIC SAFETY THAT WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS IN 2021.
WHAT ARE WE SEEKING? GIN COUNTY IS ASKING THAT THESE FIVE ACRES BE REZONED.
IN ORDER TO REMOVE THE BUSINESS PARK PROFFERS, WE WILL OFFER TO STRICTLY LIMIT THE USE OF THE PROPERTY TO ONLY A FIRE STATION OR GOVERNMENT USE, AND THEREBY PROHIBITING ALL THE OTHER USES THAT CURRENTLY COULD BE PLACED ON THIS PROPERTY.
WE'LL PROFFER CONCEPTUAL PLANS AS WE HAVE SHOWN, THEY'LL SHOW HOW THE PROPERTY WILL BE DEVELOPED AND WE'LL ENSURE THE RESCUE CONTAINER EN CLOSURES ARE ATTRACTIVE AND COMPATIBLE WITH DESIGNS TO THE BUILDING.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION CLOSING, I WANT TO POINT OUT SEVERAL THINGS TO YOU.
GUCCI COUNTY NEEDS THIS FACILITY.
ALL OUR RESIDENTS WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE CONSTRUCTION OF IT, THE EASTERN PARK, THE CENTRAL PARK, AND THE WESTERN PART OF IT AS WELL.
RESPONSE TIMES ACROSS THE COUNTY WILL BE POSITIVELY AFFECTED BY THIS LOCATION BECAUSE OF ITS EXCELLENT ACCESS TO THE EXISTING ROAD STRUCTURE THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE BUILT WILL BE THE SAME.
GOOD NEIGHBOR TO OUR NEIGHBORS HERE THAT WE HAVE BEEN AT SIX OTHER LOCATIONS FOR THE LAST 70 YEARS.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT THE COMP PLAN AND THE PUBLIC FACILITIES PLAN.
SO ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT FOR MYSELF OR OTHER MEMBERS OF STAFF? NONE.
UM, WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME UP AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES PLEASE.
I LIVE AT THREE 10 PIPING ROCK ROAD IN MANNEQUIN SABBA.
I AM A MOSTLY RETIRED PHYSICIAN AND HAVE LIVED IN KEN LOCK VILLAGE SINCE APRIL, 2021, WHERE MY BACKYARD FACES HAWK ROAD.
ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORS AND THE KEN LOCK VILLAGE'S WORKING GROUP, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE OUR CONCERNS REGARDING THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED NEW FIRE STATION.
ON THE HOCKET ROAD PARCEL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE STRONGLY SUPPORT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS AND RECOGNIZE THEIR CRITICAL ROLE IN OUR MUNICIPAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
MY COMMENTS ADDRESS THE LOCATION OF THEFOR AND PARCEL AND THE PROCESS FOR
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SITE SELECTION.AFTER REVIEWING AVAILABLE COUNTY RECORDS, EMAIL CHAINS, SITE SELECTION REPORTS, AND THE GLAND COUNTY PUBLIC FACILITIES MASTER PLAN 2018 TO 43, 1 RECURRING THEME EMERGES, THE COUNTY INTENTIONALLY IGNORED THEIR OWN CRITERIA FOR LOCATING NEW FIRE AND RESCUE FACILITIES.
THREE PARCELS WERE MADE AVAILABLE BY WEST CREEK ASSOCIATES WITH AN ANALYSIS OF THESE SITES BY THE TIMMONS GROUP.
SITE NUMBER ONE IS AT THE TERMINUS OF TAHO CREEK PARKWAY, ADJACENT TO THE DEFUNCT HCA EMERGENCY SERVICES FACILITY WITH EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND RAPID ACCESS TO 2 88 AND NO DISCERNIBLE RESIDENTIAL IMPACT.
SITE NUMBER TWO IS ON WEST CREEK PARKWAY BETWEEN BRANCH ROAD AND SANCTUARY TRAIL, THE SO-CALLED HARDYWOOD SITE.
THIS WAS IN FACT THE PREFERRED SITE IN OCTOBER, 2016, AS PER COUNTY PRINCIPLE PLANNER TOM COLEMAN, AGAIN, NO RESIDENTIAL IMPACT.
SITE NUMBER THREE IS THE PARCEL IN QUESTION.
THE JULY, 2018 TIMMONS REPORT STATES THAT THE SITE'S PROXIMITY TO EXISTING AND PLANNED RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT DOES INDEED RAISE CONCERNS.
AT SOME POINT, SITE NUMBER THREE MYSTERIOUSLY BECAME THE PREFERRED SITE, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE COUNTY'S MASTER PLAN CLEARLY STIPULATES THAT NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE TO BE AVOIDED WHEN CONSTRUCTING NEW FACILITIES.
MY FRIENDS, THE KINLOCK DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING THE VILLAS, IS ARGUABLY THE CROWN JEWEL OF GLAND COUNTY RESIDENTIAL REAL ESTATE WITH HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT.
THERE IS A BODY OF LITERATURE THAT SUGGESTS THAT PROXIMITY TO A FIRE STATION WITH THE ATTENDANT NOISE, LIGHT AND FUEL POLLUTION HAS A SUBSTANTIALLY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON RESALE VALUES OF EXISTING HOMES.
INSOFAR AS THE COUNTY WILLFULLY IGNORED THEIR OWN PUBLISHED CRITERIA FOR FIRE STATION LOCATION AND THE UNDENIABLE DELETERIOUS EFFECT ON PROPERTY VALUES, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COUNTY PLEASE TAP THE BRAKES ON THIS PROJECT AND DEFER APPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST UNTIL THE SITE SELECTION PROCESS CAN BE REOPENED AND RE-EXPLORED IN A TRULY TRANSPARENT FASHION.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS STEVE PEARSON AND I LIVE IN THE KEN LOG VILLAS AND BACK UP TO HAWKET ROAD.
I'M WORKING WITH MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS IN THE VILLAS AND BEYOND.
I'M A PARTIALLY RETIRED ATTORNEY WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND ISSUES IN THIS AREA AND WITH GLAND COUNTY GOVERNMENT, BUT IN THE PAST WE MOVED TO THE VILLAS LAST SPRING.
OUR GROUP WROTE TO YOU LAST WEEK, SO I HOPE THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE LACK OF RECORDS AND THE TURNOVER AMONG THE SENIOR STAFF AT THE COUNTY.
THAT LEAVES US PRETTY MUCH IN THE DARK AS TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND HOW AND WHY.
I DO WANNA SHOUT OUT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR WHO'S TRIED HARD TO HELP AND HAS BEEN CANDID ABOUT THE INFORMATION DEFICIENCIES AND ALSO TO THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH PROTECTS US ALL.
IN OUR, AND IN OUR SHORT EXPERIENCE IS STAFFED WITH CONSCIENTIOUS, HARDWORKING, AND RESPONSIVE STAFF.
OUR GROUP SUPPORTS THEM, ALBEIT NOT THIS LOCATION, YOU'LL HEAR FROM OTHERS.
BUT WHAT I WANNA RAISE FROM FOR YOU IS OUR VIEWS ON THE PLANNING PROCESS AND WHY IT'S RUN OFF THE TRACKS, PRESENTING ALL OF US IN THE COUNTY WITH A POOR RESULT.
I DON'T HAVE TIME IN MY THREE MINUTES TO DO JUSTICE TO THE SUBJECT OR TO DESCRIBE ALL OF THE STEPS, WHAT WE KNOW AND DON'T KNOW AND THE HOWS AND THE WINS.
BUT I THINK I CAN GIVE YOU A REASONABLE PICTURE OF THE WHY.
UM, PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT MY EXHIBIT.
IT'S GOT MY NAME AT THE BOTTOM AND, UH, SOME YELLOW HIGHLIGHTING.
UM, AT THE TOP YOU'LL SEE THE SITE SELECTION CRITERIA RE REQUIRED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH WERE NOT FOLLOWED IN THIS PROCESS.
THERE WAS NEVER ANY CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THE EFFECT OF THE DECISION ON OUR NEARBY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH AGGREGATE INVESTMENT WELL INTO THE EIGHT FIGURES, NOR WERE ALTERNATIVES SUCH AS RELOCATION AND RENOVATION OF EXISTING FIRE FACILITIES CONSIDERED.
THESE ARE REQUIRED BY THE COMP PLAN AS YOU CAN SEE, BUT AS BEST WE CAN DETERMINE, THEY WERE IGNORED IN FAVOR OF THE CRITERIA PUBLICIZED AT THE TWO PUBLIC MEETINGS, WHICH WERE HELD AFTER THE DECISION WAS MADE AND, AND WERE HELD NOT TO HEAR THE VIEWS OF THE PUBLIC, BUT RATHER TO TELL THEM ABOUT THE
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DECISION.ALSO, UNDISCLOSED REQUIREMENTS, WHICH YOU'LL SEE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, WERE ADDED WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE PUBLIC AND THAT SERIOUSLY CONSTRAINED THE AVAILABILITY OF SITES WITH L WITH REQUIREMENTS FOR LOCATION AND OTHER TERMS THAT WERE NEVER MADE PUBLIC.
THIS SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN AN AD HOC PROCESS WITH NO TRANSPARENCY AND NO REAL EFFORT TO COMPLY WITH COUNTY POLICY EXPRESSED IN THE COMP PLAN.
IT'S PRODUCED A RESULT WHICH CAN'T BE REGARDED AS TRUSTWORTHY BY THE CITIZENS.
THERE ARE LITERALLY NO RECORDINGS OF NO RECORDS, EXCUSE ME, OF MEETINGS, PHONE CALLS, COMMITTEE REPORTS, RECOMMENDATIONS, AND EVEN DECISIONS, ALTHOUGH THOUGH THEY MUST HAVE OCCURRED AND, AND WE LITERALLY DON'T KNOW WHO ULTIMATELY APPROVED THE THIS DECISION OR WHETHER IT WAS APPROVED BY ANYBODY.
AS BEST WE CAN TELL, THE MATTER'S NEVER BEEN SQUARELY BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR A VOTE.
THE RESULT IS NOT WHAT WE EXPECT OF A GOVERNMENT THAT RELIES ON CITIZEN CONFIDENCE AND TRUST FOR ITS LEGITIMACY.
IN THE END, THIS IS AN ARBITRARY, CAPRICIOUS UNREASONABLE DECISION, UNSUPPORTED BY A RECORD OF ANY FACTS, COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF NEEDS AND OPTIONS, OR AN APPLICATION OF CLEAR AGREED PUBLIC RULES OF DECISION.
WE HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPECT BETTER FROM OUR COUNTY.
HI, MR. PEARSON, CAN I GET YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? SURE.
I LIVE AT 30 66 GLENBURN ROAD IN KEN LOCK VILLAS.
I'M A RESIDENT OF KEN LOCK VILLAS, THE COMMUNITY MOST IMPACTED BY THE HOCKETT ROAD SITE LOCATION.
KEN LOCK VILLAS IS THE NEWEST ADDITION TO THE KEN LOCK PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION, A COLLECTION OF PRESTIGIOUS NEIGHBORHOODS REPRESENTING SOME OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOMES IN THE COUNTY.
I WOULD LIKE TO REITERATE WHAT DR.
EICHLER AND AND MR. PEARSON DISCUSSED ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN'S LOCATIONAL CRITERIA.
IT SAYS LOCATE FIRE STATIONS TO MINIMIZE NEGATIVE IMPACT TO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND DEVELOPMENTS.
WHEN OUR TWO OTHER LOCAL FIRING RESCUE STATIONS WERE ESTABLISHED, THEIR PLAN LOCATIONS DID NOT IMPACT SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS AND DEVELOPMENTS.
FURTHERMORE, THEIR LOCATIONS DO NOT HAVE SIGHT LINE CONCERNS FOR ONCOMING TRAFFIC THE PRO PROPOSED SITE OF HOCKETT ROAD DOES.
SO THE QUESTION IS, WHY DID THE COUNTY DEVIATE FROM THE GUIDELINES SPELLED OUT THAN MASTER PLANS LOCATIONAL CRITERIA LAST UPDATED FEBRUARY, 2018.
NOW LET ME FOCUS ON HOW THIS INFRACTION OF THE FOLLOWING GUIDELINES BY NOT FOLLOWING THE GUIDELINES WILL IMPACT THE RESIDENTS IN KEN LOCK VILLAS.
CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A FIRE STATION CANNOT BE CHANGED AFTER IT'S BUILT TO YOUR CLOSE TO YOUR HOME IF THAT CONCERNS YOU.
IT MIGHT ALSO CONCERN FUTURE BUYERS IF AND WHEN YOU DECIDE TO SELL, EVEN IF THE FIRE STATION STAFF TELLS YOU THEY DON'T TURN ON SIRENS RIGHT AWAY, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT WILL BE A ADHERE.
ESPECIALLY WITH THE BUSY AND GROWING TRAFFIC ON HAWK ROAD.
THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF A FIRE STATION ON HOCKET ROAD WOULD CREATE MUCH HIGHER NOISE VERSUS THE TWO OTHER PROPOSED SITE LOCATIONS CAUSED DISCOMFORT FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OTHERS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED FIRE STATION WOULD BE OCCUPIED 24 HOURS A DAY AND MOST OF THE NOISE GENERATING ACTIVITIES WOULD OCCUR DURING THE DAY.
THE FIRE STATION'S, BRIGHT LIGHTS FROM DUST TO DAWN ALSO WILL BE A CONSTANT ANNOYANCE AS YOU LOOK OUT WINDOWS OR WHILE RELAXING ON A PATIO OR SCREEN PORCH.
IT WILL ALSO BE PIERCING LIGHTS AIMED DIRECTLY AT HOMES IN THE KEN LOCK VILLAS FROM TRUCKS LEAVING THE FIRE STATION AT NIGHT.
AND FINALLY, HOMEOWNERS COULD END UP WITH A POORLY APPRECIATED OR DEPRECIATED HOME JUST BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO THE FIRE STATION.
OUR WORKING GROUP WOULD SUPPORT EITHER ONE OF THE TWO OTHER SITES PRESENTED IN A 2018 TIMMONS GROUP PRELIMINARY ANALYSIS.
WE TRUST YOU, WE'LL CONSIDER OUR CONCERNS AND NOT RECOMMEND THE HOCKETT ROAD SITE LOCATION.
I LIVE ON, UH, THREE 17, UH, PIPING ROCK ROAD.
UM, SO THESE FELLAS ARE MY NEIGHBORS.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, WANT TO, UH, WHAT TOM SAID.
WE ALL APPRECIATE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT'S HERE.
UM,
IT'S JUST THE ACTUAL PLACE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PLACE THIS IN THE MEETING.
I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A MEETING LIKE THAT, UH, WHERE IT WAS HELD, UH, JANUARY 30TH, THAT TYPE OF MEETING.
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AND, UM, THAT WAS HELD TO KIND OF EXPLAIN SOME OF THIS.AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KIND OF STRUCK ME WAS THAT THERE WAS A CONSTANT PUSH ON THIS TIMMONS GROUP, UM, ASSESSMENT THAT WAS DONE AS SOME SORT OF, YOU KNOW, A REASONING TO PUT IT THE, UH, FIRE STATION IN THAT SPOT.
UM, AND THEN IT TOOK A LOT OF WORK TO GET THE ACTUAL REPORT.
AND THEN WHEN YOU READ THE REPORT, THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY WHAT IT SAID.
SO I FELT A LITTLE BIT, UM, LIKE, UH, FOR THE LACK OF A BETTER TERM, MISLED ON THAT.
I WILL SAY THAT, UM, IT'S, UH, UH, VERY MUCH OF A CONCERN FOR THE SOUND, THE NOISE.
UM, AND I ASKED BECAUSE THE FIRE STATION IS SO CLOSE TO THE ROAD AT THAT MEETING, WAS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD PUSH IT WAY BACK A LITTLE BIT ON THE LAND? AND WE WERE TOLD NO.
SO I, I AGAIN THINK THAT THEY, I WOULD LIKE FOR Y'ALL TO OR THINK ABOUT THE OTHER SITES.
AND LASTLY, IF YOU, IT'S PRETTY DRAMATIC, BUT IF WE'RE IN OUR BACKYARDS FOR BARBECUE, A FAIRLY DECENT BASEBALL PLAYER COULD THROW A BASEBALL AND HIT A FIRETRUCK OVER THERE, THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO WHERE WE ARE.
AND YOU SAW IT ON THE MAP, IT'S RIGHT IN OUR BACKYARD.
SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU TO DEFER.
MY NAME IS SUSAN PEMBER AND I LIVE AT 30 45 SWINBURN ROAD IN KEN LOCK.
PHYLLIS, I'M GONNA SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT RESPONSE TIME.
I'M LOSING MY VOICE A LITTLE BIT, EXCUSE ME.
AND I HAD MULTIPLE CALLS BETWEEN AUGUST AND DECEMBER CONCERNING THE ILLNESSES AND THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING TO MY HUSBAND.
AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT EACH TIME WE WERE VERY SURPRISED AT THE RAPID RESPONSE.
OBVIOUSLY DELIGHTED THE, I HAD VERY LITTLE TIME TO GATHER A PURSE TO GET OUR WALLET, GET THINGS TOGETHER, A JACKET, ET CETERA.
AND THAT REALLY SURPRISED ME CONSIDERING WHERE WE LIVED.
THE RESPONDING CREW WERE FROM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
THEY DIDN'T ALWAYS COME FROM THE SAME LOCATION.
SO I WANNA JUST SAY THAT NOT ONLY WAS I VERY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR KINDNESS AND OBVIOUSLY THEIR PROFESSIONALISM, BUT ALSO VERY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR RAPID RESPONSES EVERY TIME I DO OPPOSE THE CURRENT SITE.
BUT I'M GRATEFUL FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
I LIVE AT 300 PIPING ROCK ROAD IN, UM, IN THE VILLAS.
AND MY WIFE AND I MOVED HERE FROM THE CITY OF RICHMOND.
WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BE OUT OF THAT.
AND IN HERE, UH, WE DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
UH, WE MOVED HERE JUST A YEAR AGO AND, UH, THE, THE SITE OF THIS, UH, PROPOSED FIRE STATION IS THE QUESTION IN OUR MINDS.
WE'RE BOTH VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF MEDICAL FACILITIES AND EMERGENCY FACILITIES, SO THERE'S NO ARGUMENT THERE.
THE ARGUMENT AS I SEE IT OR AS WE SEE IT, IS THAT THE LOCATION, PROPOSED LOCATION TO THIS FIRE STATION IS EXTREMELY CLOSE TO THE, TO THE YARDS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I CAN'T IMAGINE IT'S NOT GOING TO, IT'S NOT GONNA PRODUCE SOME DISCOMFORT, CONSIDERABLE DISCOMFORT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHEN THE FIRE WHISTLES GO OFF.
UM, THERE WERE TWO OTHER VERY ACCEPTABLE, SEEMINGLY ACCEPTABLE LOCATIONS FOR THIS, UH, STATION.
AND WE ALL, AS YOU HEARD, WISH YOU WOULD GIVE RECONSIDERATION TO THOSE SITES, UM, BEFORE MAKING ANY FINAL DECISIONS.
THIS WE'RE NOT PROPOSING THAT YOU DO AWAY WITH THE STATION, JUST TO RECONSIDER ITS LOCATION.
I LIVE AT 3 0 2 PIPING ROCK ROAD.
UM, MY BACKYARD IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THIS FIRE STATION.
I HAVEN'T EVEN LIVED THERE A YEAR YET.
I LIVED IN THE CITY OF RICHMOND FOR 27 YEARS.
THEY ALL KIND OF LAUGHED AT ME AND SAID, MOM, OH MY GOSH, YOU'RE MOVING TO THE COUNTRY, YOU'RE MOVING OUT INTO THE STICKS.
AND I SAID, YES, I'M SO EXCITED.
I REALLY WAS SO EXCITED TO LIVE IN KINLOCK VILLAS.
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I LOOKED AT PROPERTIES IN CHESTERFIELD, MIDLOTHIAN, AND HANOVER.ASHLAND AND I DECIDED THAT GLAND WAS THE PLACE FOR ME.
KINLOCK VILLAS WAS THE PLACE FOR ME.
I BUILT A HOUSE THAT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE.
I COME HOME FROM WORK EVERY DAY, SO HAPPY TO BE THERE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S NEED BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE EVERY DAY, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE NEW BUILDINGS THAT ARE GOING UP.
I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THE NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE NEW FIREHOUSE.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN THAT LOCATION.
THERE ARE SO MANY EMPTY PLA PIECES OF LAND VERY CLOSE TO THERE THAT WOULDN'T AFFECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE SOMEBODY TO, UM, MAKE A DECISION THAT THIS IS PUT ON HOLD AND OTHER LOCATIONS ARE LOOKED AT.
UM, WHY BOTHER THE PEOPLE OR WHY DISAPPOINT THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE THERE IN THESE BEAUTIFUL HOMES IF THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION.
THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY TOO IS THE TRAFFIC ON H ROAD IS NUTS.
I HAVE TO BE AT WORK AT SEVEN 30.
AT SEVEN 15 WHEN I LEAVE MY HOUSE, TRAFFIC IS ZOOMING 55 MILES AN HOUR UP AND DOWN HOCKET ROAD.
FOR ME TO CROSS HOCKET ROAD SOMETIMES IS LIKE TAKING MY LIFE IN MY HANDS A LITTLE BIT.
THERE IS A WEIRD CURVE IN THE ROAD THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE CARS THAT ARE FROM COMING FROM THE BROAD STREET SIDE.
SO COMING SOUTH ON SAC HOCKET ROAD, IT'S VERY HARD TO SEE THEM WITH THAT CURVE.
WHEN I COME HOME FROM WORK, I GET HOME, I LEAVE WORK AT FOUR, I GET HOME ABOUT FOUR 15.
IT'S THE SAME, IT'S STILL CARS GOING BACK AND FORTH.
THIS TIME I'M COMING FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND YOU HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL.
I COULDN'T IMAGINE BEING IN A BIG FIRETRUCK OR AN AMBULANCE TRYING TO PULL OUT WHEN IN TRAFFIC THAT'S GOING THAT FAST.
SO I AM VERY OPPOSED TO THE LOCATION OF THIS FIREHOUSE, NOT OPPOSED TO A FIREHOUSE, BUT I REALLY HOPE SOMEBODY TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION MY FEELINGS, ALL MY NEIGHBOR'S FEELINGS, AND, UM, PERHAPS MAKES A DIFFERENT DECISION ON THIS LOCATION.
MY ADDRESS IS 360 7 SWINBURN ROAD.
IN THE FIRST DECADE OF THIS CENTURY, I SPENT SEVERAL YEARS AS A VOLUNTEER AMBULANCE DRIVER, NORMALLY OPERATING FROM THE CENTERVILLE STATION.
ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED EARLY ON IS THE IMPORTANCE OF MINIMIZING RESPONSE TIMES.
IF YOU TAKE TOO LONG TO GET TO THE PATIENT, THE PATIENT MAY, MAY BE UNABLE TO HELP HIM.
WITH MY, MY EXPERIENCES ON THE MEDICAL EMERGENCY SIDE, IT IS NOT DIFFICULT TO ENVISION THE EFFECT OF A LONGER RESPONSE TIME WHEN THE EMERGENCY IS A FIRE.
AND CLOSELY RELATED TO THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIME IS THE AVAILABILITY OF UNITS TO RESPOND.
WHEN I WAS A DRIVER, I CAN RECALL MANY OCCASIONS WHEN MY AMBULANCE HAD TO GO TO THE FAR END OF THE COUNTY TO RESPOND TO A CALL BECAUSE THERE WERE SIMPLY NO OTHER UNITS AVAILABLE.
THIS OF COURSE, INCREASES RESPONSE TIME AND MAY ADVERSELY AFFECT THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE TIMELY ASSISTANCE.
OF COURSE, THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN THE INTERVENING YEARS.
WE NOW HAVE ALL STATIONS MANNED AROUND THE CLOCK WITH FULL-TIME CAREER PROVIDERS.
BUT THE COUNTY HAS THE SAME NUMBER OF STATIONS.
SIX THAT WE HAD IN 20 YEARS AGO WHEN I WAS RUNNING TO SERVE A POPULATION THAT HAS, HAS BEEN IS AND WILL CONTINUE TO EXPAND SUBSTANTIALLY WITH THE BULK OF THE EXPANSION IN THE EAST END, INCLUDING THE COM COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE NOW, INCLUDING AVERY POINT, INCLUDING MOSAIC.
AND THESE, THESE COMMUNITIES DIDN'T EXIST WHEN I WAS RUNNING.
THE INCREASING POPULATION PUTS INCREASED STRAIN ON RESPONSE TIMES, EVEN WITH THE PRESENT STATION'S MANNED 24 7.
WE NEED THE NEW STATION AND WE NEED IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.
SELECTED SITE HAS BEEN ACQUIRED, BUT EVEN WITH PROMPT ACTION BY THIS COMMISSION AND APPROVAL BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO REVISE THE ZONING, IT'S GONNA TAKE A YEAR OR MORE TO GET THE NEW STATION IN OPERATION.
SENDING THE SITE SELECTION BACK TO THE ACQUISITION, BACK TO THE UH, DRAWING BOARD JUST DELAYS THIS MUCH FURTHER AND I THINK THAT'S UNNECESSARY.
SO I'M ASKING YOU TO MOVE THIS MATTER TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TONIGHT WITH A RECOMMENDATION THAT THE ZONING CHANGE BE APPROVED.
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GOOD EVENING.SANDRA WARWICK, 360 7 SWINBURN ROAD.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A POINT ABOUT THE PROXIMITY OF FIRE RESCUE STATIONS TO HIGH-END HOMES.
HENRICO COUNTY WHOSE LAND AREA IS ACTUALLY SLIGHTLY SMALLER THAN THAT OF GLAND HAS 22 FIRE STATIONS.
WE HAVE SIX, THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO ONE ON KANE ROAD THAT IS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND LITERALLY SURROUNDED BY HOMES THAT RANGE FROM THE HIGH SIX TO SEVEN FIGURES.
THERE IS ANOTHER ONE ON THE CORNER OF GASKINS ROAD AND RIVER ROAD AND THAT LOCATION DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE HAD ANY EFFECT ON PEOPLE BUILDING MILLION DOLLAR HOSES HO HOMES CLOSE TO THEM.
I FULLY SUPPORT THIS REZONING APPLICATION.
I WILL BE HEARING THE ENGINES WHEN IT IS BUILT AND I URGE YOU TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS.
ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP PLEASE? MR. CHAIRMAN? MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UM, GOSHEN COUNTY IS, IS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ITS CITIZENS AND WE'RE VERY AWARE OF THE IMPACT THAT ANY FACILITY SUCH AS THIS WHEREVER'S LOCATED IS GONNA HAVE.
UH, THERE IS IN REALITY NO PLACE WE COULD PUT IT, THAT IT WON'T HAVE IMPACT ON SOMEONE SOMEWHERE.
UM, WE'RE VERY ALSO, UM, THE CONVERSATION DIALOGUE WE'VE HAD WITH THESE CITIZENS HAS BEEN VERY POSITIVE AND OPEN.
THEY'VE BEEN VERY STRONG IN THEIR SUPPORT FOR WHAT WE DO AS PUBLIC SERVANTS.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF, OF THEIR CONCERNS, UM, FOR YOU.
UM, ONE OF THE, UH, STATED CONCERNS IS, UH, THE REQUEST THAT WE RECONSIDER THIS LOCATION.
LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHERS THAT WERE OUT THERE ONE TIME.
FROM WHAT WE CAN TELL, THERE ARE AT LEAST FIVE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THAT WERE LOOKED AT ACROSS THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTY AS TIME WENT ON.
THOSE ARE NARROWED AND AS THEY'VE REFERRED, THERE WERE THREE OF THEM.
ONE, UH, CLOSE TO THE HCA, ONE DOWN, UH, WHAT THEY CALL THE HARDYWOOD SIDE IN THIS FACILITY.
UM, THOSE OTHER TWO LOCATIONS WERE RULED OUT.
IT APPEARS IN PART BECAUSE AS THE CHIEF HAS POINTED OUT, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE HAVE SHIFTED NORTH.
AT ONE POINT WE THOUGHT THE GROWTH AND THE CALLS WOULD BE MORE TO THE SOUTH ON THE PATTERSON AVENUE AREA.
SO A FACILITY ON THAT END NO LONGER SERVED OUR NEEDS FACILITY AT THE HARDYWOOD SIDE.
I'M SORRY, A FACILITY AT THE HCA SIDE IS RIGHT ON THE BORDER WITH HENRICO COUNTY.
AND AS THE CHIEF SHOWED THAT FIVE MILE CIRCLE IS CRITICAL.
WHEN YOU TAKE HALF THE CIRCLE AND CUT IT OFF, YOU'VE LOST HALF YOUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO YOUR CITIZEN.
SO IT WAS NOT AN OPTIMALLY SIDED FACILITY OR LOCATION.
I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE FACILITY, THE LOCATION THAT UH, WE ARE LOOKING AT HAS BEEN DONATED, UH, TO THE COUNTY BY THE ASSOCIATES, UH, BY WEST CREEK ASSOCIATES.
UH, THEY WERE AWARE OF THE OTHER LOCATIONS, BUT THIS IS THE SITE THAT THEY CHOSE TO DONATE TO US AS WELL.
OTHER SITES HAD GREATER COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM JUST TO BE HONEST.
AND SO THEY FELT IT WAS IN THEIR INTEREST NOT TO DONATE THOSE SITES TO US.
SO TRYING TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE CITIZENS RESOURCES, UM, A DONATED SITE CERTAINLY IS SOMETHING WE HAD TO CONSIDER.
UM, WE TALK ABOUT DEFERRING TO ANOTHER DAY.
AGAIN, WE'RE VERY COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT THAT, THAT THESE CITIZENS HAVE MOVED INTO THEIR HOMES, BEAUTIFUL HOMES AND, AND THEIR GREAT ADDITIONS TO OUR COUNTY ALL WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR SO.
UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SITE SINCE 2019.
WE KNOW, UH, IN 2021 WE HAD A REFERENDUM THAT THE PUBLIC VOTED ON.
THIS SITE WAS CLEARLY INDICATED IN THAT SITE.
IF GUEN COUNTY HAD TO STOP EVERY TIME WE HAVE NEW DEVELOPMENT COME IN AND START IT OVER AGAIN TO RECONSIDER, WE WOULD NEVER HAVE ANY ABILITY TO RESPOND TO THE GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY.
AT SOME POINT YOU HAVE TO DECIDE TO GO FORWARD WITH WHAT YOU KNOW, AND WE MADE THESE DECISIONS, THIS COMMUNITY WAS NOT THERE.
SO YOU CAN'T SAY THAT WE DIDN'T CONSIDER THE IMPACT BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT AN IMPACT IN 2019 TO BE CONSIDERED.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY AGAIN, DO LIVE THERE NOW AND, AND OUR COMMITMENT HAS BEEN AND WILL BE TO BE GREAT NEIGHBORS AND STEWARDS OF THEIR COMMUNITY AS WELL FOR THEM.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT, THAT THESE ARE ISSUES THAT, THAT WE DID TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
UH, WE ARE AWARE OF THE IMPACT IT'S GONNA HAVE.
UH, BUT THIS IS A SITE THAT HAS BEEN VETTED.
IT HAS GONE THROUGH STAFF PROCESSES FOR MANY YEARS.
UH, THIS IS THE BEST LOCATION WE CAN FIND THAT THE DONORS WERE WILLING TO GIVE TO US.
AND WE ASKED THEIR FOUR, UH, MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION THAT YOU DO, UH, CONSIDER OUR REQUEST AND YOU VOTE APPROVAL TO SEND TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
ANY WAY THAT CAN BE SCREENED WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOOK RIGHT AT IT FROM THEIR BACKYARDS.
WELL, I MEAN THE, THE WHOLE DESIGN STILL HAS TO BE DONE.
SO THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE'D BE WILLING TO LOOK AT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE TRUCKS HAVE TO DRIVE ONTO THE STREET AT SOME POINT, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO BE POINTED OUT TOWARDS IT.
BUT, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL DEFINITELY CA BE GLAD TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION IF WE CAN DESIGN THE SITE
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IN A WAY THAT WOULD MINIMIZE IMPACT TO OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS AND WE'D BE GLAD TO.AND AND THIS, YOU SAY THIS WAS, CAME ABOUT IN 2019 SO THAT IT'S BEEN, THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN AWARE THAT THIS SITE WAS CHOSEN FOR A FIREHOUSE TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.
E EVERYONE WHO WAS HERE YES SIR.
WE TRIED OUR AS WELL AS WE COULD.
IN GOODSON WE HAVE A LIGHTING ORDINANCE THAT IS CALLED DARK SKY.
SO THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS MADE ABOUT LIGHTS SHINING, LIGHTS SHINING IN THEIR DIRECTLY INTO THEIR BACKYARD.
THERE ARE GONNA BE NO PROJECTED LIGHTS OUT TO THE STREET OR NO SIR.
WE'RE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO AGAIN, UH, DARK SOCK AND PLANT LIGHTS.
AND YOU CAN GO BY SOME OF OUR BALL FIELDS NOW THAT, THAT HAVE SIMILAR LIGHTS AND, AND THE, UH, LIGHT, UH, POLLUTION THAT EX THAT ESCAPES THE PROPERTY IS, IS SO MINIMAL.
AND SO, UH, NOTHING WILL BE POINTED AT THEM.
I THINK ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN DID INDICATE AS THE HEADLIGHT TO BE POINTED TOWARDS THEM.
AND OF COURSE WE WILL TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN.
WE WOULD CERTAINLY MINIMIZE THE ACCESS TO THE ROAD, BUT THE ROAD WILL STILL HAVE TO ACCESS AT SOME POINT.
BUT AS FAR AS FLOODLIGHTS AND THOSE KINDS, THOSE WOULD DEFINITELY BE DARK SITE COMPLIANT.
ONE IS REGARDING WHEN THIS WAS CITED.
UH, NOW WHEN YOU GO TO BILL OR BUY A HOUSE, YOU ALWAYS SUPPOSEDLY DO YOUR DUE DILIGENCE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS FIREHOUSE LOCATION SHOWED UP ON COUNTY PLANNING MAPS 19, 20 21? NO, IT WOULD'VE BEEN ON THE PLA CUZ WE DIDN'T KNOW THE LAND AT THAT POINT.
BUT WE, WE HAD IDENTIFIED THAT AND WE HAD RECEIVED INDICATIONS FROM WEST CREEK ASSOCIATES THAT THIS WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO THEM AND THEY WERE, DONATE THE LAND TO US.
SO DISCUSSIONS WERE, WERE HELD.
HOW WOULD A CITIZEN WANTED TO BUY AND KEN, LIKE VILLAS KNOW IT'S A FIREHOUSE GOING THERE LAST YEAR? WELL, OUR FIRST PUBLIC MEETING WAS IN, IN 2019 WITH THE RESIDENTS.
UM, WHEN WE DO THOSE, WE DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT, UH, REALTORS, DEVELOPERS ENTIRE COMMUNITY KNOWS IT.
AGAIN, WHEN THE, UH, UM, BOND REFERENDUM WAS HELD IN 2021, THERE WERE PUBLIC MEETINGS, THERE WERE PUBLIC HEARINGS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COUNTY THAT, THAT TALKED ABOUT THIS AS A SITE AND A LOCATION AS WELL.
SO THOUGH WE DIDN'T INDICATE ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS WE HELD ON THE BOND REFERENDUM, EACH TIME WE DID THAT, THIS SITE WAS DISCUSSED.
AGAIN, AT SOME POINT IN TIME, THE COUNTY HAS DONE WHAT WE ARE REASONABLY ABLE TO DO TO COMMUNICATE THESE KINDS OF DECISIONS.
AND SO THERE WAS NUMEROUS OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH THE YEARS WITH THE COUNTY, SHARED THIS INFORMATION WITH THE PUBLIC AND LET THEM KNOW WHAT OUR INTENTIONS AND PLANS WERE.
AND THERE'S NO SITE FURTHER DOWN HOCK, UH, NORTH, AWAY FROM KID LIKE VILLAS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE.
I MEAN, WE GOT A GREENHOUSE WE JUST APPROVED DOWN THERE A YEAR, LAST YEAR OR SO.
THERE WAS NOTHING FURTHER NORTH.
NOTHING TO MY KNOWLEDGE AND THE RECORDS WE HAVE THAT WAS CONSIDERED OR CERTAINLY THAT WAS OFFERED TO US FOR DONATION.
AND THIS IS THE ONLY FIREHOUSE IN THIS END THAT WILL DUMP OUT ONTO A TWO-LANE ROAD CUZ THE LITTLE CENTERVILLE AND MANNEQUIN ARE ON FOUR-LANE DIVIDED HIGHWAYS NOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU.
UM, UM, I, ON OCCASION IF I'M, I'M, IF I'M HEADING FROM THE WEST OF THE STATE, UM, I LIVE IN THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE COUNTY.
I'LL, UH, TO COME FROM CHARLOTTESVILLE WAY, I'LL CUT THROUGH HAYDENVILLE TO GO TO OUR RESIDENCE AND I'LL DRIVE BY THE COMPANY SIX, UH, FIREHOUSE THAT'S OWNED.
IT'S THE FIRST COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY, UH, COUNTY OWNED, UH, FIRE STATION.
AND, UH, IT IS LIT AT NIGHT, BUT IT IS VERY TASTEFUL.
IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST TASTEFUL, UH, LIT BUILDINGS IN THE, UH, IN THAT AREA OF THE COUNTY.
UM, MY OTHER COMMENT IS, UH, A STORY LAST JANUARY, I WAS, UH, DROPPING A FRIEND OFF, UH, TRAVELING, UH, ON HERMITAGE ROAD, RIGHT AROUND GAINES THRIFTY AREA.
AND THE, THE GUY WAS TRAVELING WITH, WE HEARD A, A TERRIBLE NOISE FROM GAINES, THRIFTY HOPPED IN THE CAR AND WE CAME UPON FOUR YOUNG TEENAGE BOYS THAT, UH, WRECKED THEIR CAR, FLIPPED THEIR CAR ON HERMITAGE ROAD.
PRETTY MUCH AT GAINES, THRIFTY.
TWO OF THEM WERE STILL IN THE CAR, AND I CALLED 9 1 1.
THE NEIGHBOR RAN DOWN FROM THE BANK.
AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I'VE GOT THREE BOYS OF MY OWN ONE THAT'S GETTING READY TO GET A LEARNER'S PERMIT.
IT KIND OF SHAKES YOU UP A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU'RE THINKING, ALL RIGHT, THESE AREN'T ANY OF MY KIDS, ARE THEY ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, FAMILY MEMBERS OR ANYBODY THAT I KNOW.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE THINKING THE WORST.
FORTUNATELY, ALL FOUR KIDS ARE FINE, BUT IT, THE, THE RESPONSE TIME, IT, IT, IT WAS, IT WAS GREAT FROM THE COUNTY, BUT IT SEEMED LIKE IT TOOK FOREVER.
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WOULD SAY THAT IF THIS STATION WERE HERE, THE, THE RESPONSE TIME WOULD'VE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER TO THAT LOCATION.NOTING, NOTING THE PROXIMITY TO COMPANY ONE AND CENTERVILLE BEING MANNEQUIN.
SO I WOULD SEE IT BEING A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY EVEN BEING HERE.
I'D BE THE FIRST TO ADMIT THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANNA LIVE NEXT TO A FIRE STATION.
OR WHEN I NEED IT, I WANT 'EM RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
YOU KNOW, SO I, I I HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO UH, PROVE IT AS MOTION PUT FORTH.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FOUR OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE HEARD BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON APRIL 18TH, 2023 WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MADAM SECRETARY, ANY OLD BUSINESS, WE HAVE NO OLD BUSINESS.
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DO HAVE ONE ITEM OF OTHER BUSINESS, UM, STAFF IS GONNA BE GIVING VILLAGE PLANS.[9. Other Business]
GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS, CRYSTAL ANNIS, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR THIS EVENING.I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL AS A BODY OUR PATH FORWARD FOR OUR SMALL AREA PLANNING EFFORTS AS THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PRIORITY FOR OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS IN THE CENTERVILLE AND COURTHOUSE VILLAGE AREAS.
FOR THIS PATH FORWARD, GUC LANE COUNTY HAS CONTRACTED WITH TIMMONS GROUP, A LOCAL FIRM BASED IN RICHMOND FOR A FE SORRY, FRESH PERSPECTIVE ON OUR PLANS FOR THE COURTHOUSE AND CENTERVILLE VILLAGES.
TIM'S GROUP WILL BE REVIEWING ALL PREVIOUS COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER INPUT TO BUILD UPON THE WORK DONE TO DATE A CENTRAL GOAL OF GUC AND TIM'S GROUP WITH THIS EFFORT IS TO ENSURE THAT COMMUNITY INPUT AND FEEDBACK OBTAINED TO DATE IS PROMINENTLY HIGHLIGHTED, GIVEN THE COMMON THEMES EXPRESSED THAT WE HAVE HEARD AND RECEIVED ONLINE.
THUS FAR, TIMMONS HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH LAND USE AND PLANNING GIVEN THEIR WORK WITH REGIONAL PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE GREATER RICHMOND REGION.
ADDITIONALLY, TIMMONS GROUP HAS A LONG-STANDING WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH GUC LINK COUNTY, INCLUDING VARIOUS PROJECTS SUCH AS FIRE STATION SIX AND THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
THROUGH THIS REVIEW PROCESS, TIMMONS WILL PROPOSE A FRAMEWORK FOR THE PLANS THAT WILL FOCUS ON REGULATING PRINCIPLES THAT WILL IDENTIFY APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT ZONES WHILE BALANCING THE UNIQUE CHARACTER OF EACH VILLAGE AND HIGHLIGHTING PRESERVATION ONCE COMPLETE.
THE PLANS WILL INCLUDE A GUIDE FOR FUTURE LAND USE DECISIONS TO ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY OF DEVELOPMENT WITH ACCEPTABLE GUIDELINES, WHICH WILL ALSO SERVE A CORE FUNCTION AND NEED FOR STAFF AS WELL AS OUR COMMUNITY WHEN THEY COME FORWARD WITH APPLICATIONS, WHICH I THINK IS CRITICAL AT THIS POINT, WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF ONE-OFFS THAT ARE NOT INHERENTLY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN THROUGH GLAND COUNTY, ALONG WITH TIMMONS WILL SCHEDULE MEETINGS TO PROVIDE A PROJECT UPDATE TO THE COMMUNITY.
THEY WILL ALSO BE PRESENTING TO YOU ALL AS WELL AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND FUTURE MEETINGS.
ONCE COMPLETED, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU ALL AS A BODY AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL CONSIDER THESE PLANS FOR ADOPTION AND PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BE HELD FOR THEM.
OUR TARGET FOR THIS IS LATE SPRING.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN CONTACT OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT STAFF OR GO ONLINE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE.
[10. Adjournment]
YOU.