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[I. 2:00 PM - Call to Order]
THE MARCH 7TH, 2:00 PM BUSINESS MEETING OF THE GLAND COUNTY BORDER SUPERVISORS.LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A GREAT CROWD TODAY FOR SOME REALLY EXCITING STUFF.
I WANTED TO, UH, WE WANNA START EACH MEETING LIKE WE ALWAYS DO WITH OUR INVOCATION AND OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WILL BE LED BY OUR VICE CHAIR CHARLIE WATTERS AND THE INVOCATION BY THE GOOD REVEREND HERNANDEZ, THEIA ESPANZA CHURCH OF THE NAZARETH.
PASTOR, PLEASE STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE.
[II. Invocation: Rev. Jeffrey Hernandez -Iglesia Comunidad Esperanza - Church of the]
YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.LORD AND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TODAY ASKING FOR GUIDANCE AND GRACE.
TODAY WE PRAY THAT THIS BODY OF PUBLIC SERVANTS, THAT YOU GUIDE THEM TO SERVE AND CONDUCT THE AFFAIRS OF GLAND AND ITS PEOPLE.
WE HUMBLY ASK FOR PEACE, WISDOM, AND SUPPORT.
AS THIS BOARD MAKES DECISIONS, AS STEWARDS WHO ARE ENTRUSTED TO THE CARE OF THE COMMUNITY, WE ASK THAT THIS MEETING IS FILLED WITH YOUR COUNCIL CLARITY AND HARMONY IN THE INTENT OF THE MISSION TO SERVE THE PEOPLE OF GLAND, OUR LORD.
WE PRAY FOR GLAND AND ITS PEOPLE, AND THAT YOU MAY CONTINUE TO PROVIDE PEACE AND TO PROSPER THEM.
MAY THE SERVICE OF THIS BODY BRING YOU GLORY.
YOU WHO ARE OUR LOVING GOD AND MERCIFUL LORD, NOW AND FOREVER, WE ASK THIS IN YOUR HOLY NAME.
[III. Pledge of Allegiance]
THANK YOU.[IV. Chair's Comments]
WE GOT HALF JUST HERE.I SEE MR. LYNN MADE IT THROUGH.
UM, MR. PETERSON IS, UH, LET US KNOW THAT HE IS ON ROUTE SIX IN ROUTE.
UM, WE WILL CONTINUE WITH OUR, UH, THE, OUR AGENDA WITH THE CHAIR'S COMMENTS.
I'M EXCITED THAT WE HAVE OUR, UH, OUR TOWN HALL MEETINGS COMING UP.
THIS IS THE CHANCE TO COME AND ENGAGE WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS.
TOMORROW NIGHT IS THE DISTRICT FOUR AND FIVE, WHICH IS THE RESIDENCE INN AT THE NOTCH, UM, DISTRICTS ONE IS THURSDAY, MARCH 23RD AT SIX 30 AT BYRD ELEMENTARY.
AND, UH, DISTRICTS TWO AND THREE.
THURSDAY NIGHT, MARCH 30TH AT SIX 30 AT CENTRAL HIGH IN THE EDUCATION CENTER ON DOGTOWN ROAD.
WE HOPE FOLKS WILL COME OUT TO THAT.
UH, WE WILL BE TALKING, UH, MOSTLY ABOUT THE BUDGET, BUT IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO, TO TALK AND STAFF IS THERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND, AND TO REALLY, UH, REALLY HEAR FROM YOU WHAT, WHAT IT IS WE CAN DO TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF GUC COUNTY.
UM, OTHER THAN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UH, SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND I TODAY GOT TO ATTEND THE GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY FOR THE CHICK-FIL-A, UH, IN THE EASTERN END OF THE COUNTY.
SO, VERY EXCITING TO SEE THAT COMING.
AND THEY HAVE LET THE FOLKS, SO FOR ALL THOSE OF US IN DISTRICTS, UM, ONE AND TWO, THEY ARE AWARE THAT THAT'S PRETTY EAST.
SO THEY'RE, THEY, UH, THEY, THEY KNOW THE CITIZENS WANTED TO COME FURTHER WEST, SO WE GOTTA SUPPORT THIS ONE.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME, SOME MORE OUT WEST, BUT WE, UH, WE THANK THEM FOR THAT.
UM, MR. CARPENTER, YOUR COMMENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THIS ONE ITEM TODAY WAS
[V. County Administrator's Comments]
THE VIRGINIA STATEWIDE TORNADO DRILL.UH, REMINDED OUR CITIZENS THAT WERE ENTERED THAT PART OF THE SEASON WHEN SEVERE WEATHER CAN HIT.
IT'S HAPPENED HERE VERY RECENTLY, AND WE KNOW IT, SO PLEASE BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS.
LISTEN TO THE WARNINGS AND TAKE COVER IF YOU HEAR THEM.
NOW WE, I'M GONNA OPEN THE, UH, I'M SORRY THIS IS THE TIME FOR US TO BOARD.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO REORDER THE AGENDA? I SEE MR. LYNN MADE
[VI. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the]
IT IN, SO WE, THAT ITEM WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.BUT ANYTHING ELSE THERE? DELETIONS? ALL
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RIGHT.IF NOT, WE'LL GO WITH THE AGENDA THAT WE HAVE.
AND ON THAT AGENDA IS THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
UM, THIS IS A CHANCE FOR CITIZENS TO COME
[VII. Citizen Comment]
AND SPEAK TO THE BOARD ABOUT ISSUES REGARDING GUCCI COUNTY.WE ASK YOU TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
PLEASE GIVE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND, UH, SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES.
A LIGHT WILL GO OFF WITH ABOUT A MINUTE.
A YELLOW LIGHT WILL GO OFF WITHOUT A BIT WHEN YOU HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE TO GO, AND THEN IT'LL START BLINKING REALLY FAST.
SO, YEAH, SPEED UP YOUR SPEED.
UM, BUT, UH, JOY, UH, ASK YOU TO DO THAT.
UH, FOR FIRST THOUGH, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL, UH, MR. ROBIN LIN TO COME UP, UH, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE ABOUT SOMETHING VERY SPECIAL THAT WE WANT TO ADDRESS FOR THE ASSISTANT COMMENT PERIOD, MR. LIN, MR. THE PICTURES OF THE FLASH, THE PICTURES AND EVERYTHING.
SO IF YOU WANT ME TO HELP YOU, LET'S THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I'LL
CALL FOR A FRIEND, PLEASE, MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR THE RECORD, I'M ROBIN LIND.
I'M APPEARING HERE TODAY AS PRESIDENT OF THE GSON COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY, AND I'M HERE TO REQUEST APPROVAL OF THE INSTALLATION OF AN HISTORIC MARKER IN FRONT OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING TO COMMEMORATE THE INTEGRATION OF GOODLAND HIGH SCHOOL AND THE END OF RACIALLY SEGREGATED EDUCATION THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
THAT AS I LOOK AT THE MEMBERS AND PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, NOT MANY PEOPLE ARE OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER THIS.
BUT ON THIS VERY DAY, 58 YEARS AGO, MARCH 7TH, 1965, ABOUT 600 UNARMED NON-VIOLENT CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVISTS, MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN, SET OUT FROM THEIR CHURCH ON A PROTEST MARCH, SEEKING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964, THEY WERE ATTACKED BY STATE TROOPERS, COUNTY DEPUTIES, AS THEY CROSSED THE EDMUND PETTUS BRIDGE IN SELMA, ALABAMA.
THAT WAS A DAY THAT SHOCKED THE WORLD.
AND THIS IS THE ANNIVERSARY OF THAT DAY, THAT HISTORY NOW CALLS BLOODY SUNDAY IN GLAND.
58 YEARS AGO, 11 YEARS AFTER THE US SUPREME COURT HAD RULED SEGREGATED SCHOOLS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
AND NINE MONTHS AFTER THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964, PROHIBITED DISCRIMINATION IN PUBLIC FACILITIES, GLAND COUNTY SCHOOLS WERE STILL SEGREGATED BY RACE WITH APPROXIMATELY 1100 BLACK STUDENTS AND 900 WHITE STUDENTS.
THERE WERE TWO SCHOOLS, ONE WHITE AND ONE BLACK, TWO WHITE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, GLAND AND CARDWELL, AND THREE BLACK ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, RANDOLPH, KANAWA AND BIRD, A GROUP OF COURAGEOUS PUPILS.
AND THEIR PARENTS INSTITUTED A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT SINKING IN AN INJUNCTION TO PROVIDE FOR THE PROMPT AND EFFICIENT ELIMINATION OF RACIAL SEGREGATION IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS OF GUTZON COUNTY.
AFTER THE SUIT WAS FILED, THE GSON COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD ADOPTED A FREEDOM OF CHOICE PLAN ON JUNE 8TH, 1965, FOR THE DESEGREGATION OF SCHOOLS IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH TITLE IX OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT.
IN THE FALL OF 19 65, 62 BLACK STUDENTS TRANSFERRED TO WHITE SCHOOLS, AND AS A RESULT, THERE WERE BLACKS, QUOTE, AND I'M QUOTING FROM THE COURT ORDER IN EVERY GRADE, IN EVERY WHITE SCHOOL, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SIXTH GRADE AT GLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT GLAND HIGH SCHOOL, 14 BLACK STUDENTS WERE ADMITTED, ONE EACH IN GRADES 11 AND 12, TWO EACH IN GRADES NINE AND 10 AND EIGHT IN GRADE EIGHT.
THEY ARE THE STUDENTS WHO'LL BE RECOGNIZED ON THIS MARKER.
IT IS THEIR COURAGE AND EXAMPLE, AND THE COURAGE, ENDURANCE, GRACE, AND COMMITMENT OF THEIR PARENTS THAT WE CELEBRATE WITH THIS HISTORIC MARKER.
THESE GLAND CITIZENS BELIEVED IN WHAT ABRAHAM LINCOLN CALLED THE BETTER ANGELS OF OUR NATURE, AND THEY CHALLENGED THE COUNTY TO LIVE UP TO ITS IDEALS.
IT'S MY HONOR NOW TO ASK LINDA GLOVER MINOR, ONE OF THOSE BRAVE YOUNG EIGHTH GRADERS
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WHO WENT ON TO A DISTINGUISHED CAREER AS A TEACHER IN GUC COUNTY SCHOOLS, TO PLEASE RISE WITH HER FELLOW STUDENTS AND BE RECOGNIZED AND PERHAPS SAY A FEW WORDS.I RESIDE AT 27 54 BROAD STREET ROAD GUM SPRINGING VIRGINIA 20 3065.
AND IT IS WITH GRATEFUL, APPRECIATION AND APPRECIATIVE HEART THAT WE SAY THANK YOU TO THE GUEN HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
UM, MRS. CHRISTINE DUNN, MR. ROBIN LYNN, MR. VERNE FLEMING, AND MR. MENTE FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS HISTORICAL MARKER TO REPRESENT THOSE OF US WHO WERE THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN STUDENTS AT GLAND HIGH SCHOOL.
THIS ROOM WAS OUR AUDITORIUM WHEN WE ATTENDED SCHOOL, WHEN WE CAME IN TO, FOR, UM, PEP VALLEYS TO CHAIR OF FOOTBALL AND OUR TEAMS ONTO VICTORY.
WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR YOUR APPROVAL TODAY, AS TO PLACE THE MARK ON THE GROUND WHERE THIS HISTORIC EVENT TOOK PLACE.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND YOUR APPROVAL WILL CONTINUE THE HERITAGE OF THIS EVENT.
THIS MARKER BECOMES A PRIMARY SOURCE IN WHICH ONE CAN STUDY THE PAST AND SERVES AS A BEACON OF LIGHT FOR THE FUTURE.
WE THANK OUR PARENTS, THE NAACP AND OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO SUPPORTED US AND PUSHED FOR THE LAWS OF THE LAND TO BE FOLLOWED.
ALTHOUGH THERE WERE OBSTACLES, THERE WERE CHALLENGES, BUT WE DID MEET WITH MANY SUCCESSES.
THIS MARKER LISTED NAMES OF THE FIRST 14 BLACK STUDENTS TO DESEGREGATE GUCCI HIGH SCHOOL IN 1965.
11 YEARS AFTER THE US SUPREME COURT DECLARED THE SEGREGATION OF SCHOOLS UNCONSTITUTIONAL, ALL 14 STUDENTS GRADUATED FROM GUC HIGH SCHOOL WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE CLASSES.
TODAY, TWO OF OUR 14 ARE DECEASED.
TEN TWO STUDENTS RESIDE OUTSIDE OF THE STATE, BUT 10 STUDENTS RESIDE HERE IN GLAND AND THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES WE HAVE WITH US TODAY.
PRISCILLA COPELAND, WHO WAS A 10TH GRADER AT THE TIME, ARETHA ROBINSON, WHO WAS ALSO A 10TH GRADER AT THE TIME, DIANE, PATRICIA LEWIS, WHO WAS A NINTH GRADER AT THE TIME.
SERENA ROBINSON, SERENA ROBINSON, HARRIS, JACKIE, CAROL JACKSON, AND MYSELF, WHO WERE EIGHTH GRADERS AT THE TIME.
AND WE ARE GLAD TO BE HERE, AND WE WISH THAT YOU WOULD APPROVE THIS MARKER FOR US.
A LOT OF MY FORMER STUDENTS ARE HERE TODAY, AND THAT'S GREAT.
AND SOME PARENTS I SEE ARE HERE TODAY TOO, SO THANK YOU.
I, I THINK IT IS WORTH NOTING, AND THANK YOU FOR, FOR, FOR YOUR WORDS.
UM, THIS EFFORT IS IN, IN CON UH, COLLABORATION WITH THE, WITH GUCCI COUNTY, THE GUCCI COUNTY, HIS HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THE GUC AND BRANCH OF THE N A AAC P AND GUCCI ROTARY CLUB.
SO JUST AMAZING TO SEE, UH, THAT GROUP, ALL THOSE GROUPS COME TOGETHER.
MR. LYNN, DID YOU HAVE, UH, I WAS JUST GOING TO, UM, I THINK TELEPATHICALLY KEN PETERSON, WHO IS STOPPED BECAUSE ROUTE SIX IS BLOCKED, BUT HE'S SENDING ME A MESSAGE TO MOVE THE ADOPTION OF THIS MOTION.
SO, BOARD, WE, WE ARE ASKED TO, TO, UM, TO PROVIDE OUR CONSENSUS REGARDING THIS.
SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, OF APPROVING THIS WONDERFUL MARKER, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
WE'LL CONTINUE WITH OUR CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.
YOU COME UP WHEN, WHEN THE MICROPHONE'S FREE.
GLAD AND I LIVE AT 31 88, RUNNING STILL, LANE IN GUM SPRINGING.
UM, OUR BUSINESS RIVER ROAD COTTAGE IS LOCATED AT 29 0 5 RIVER ROAD.
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WEST RIVER ROAD COTTAGE HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE APRIL OF 2019.IN OCTOBER, 2022, WE RECEIVED A LETTER FROM GLAND COMMISSIONER REVENUE REQUESTING A LIST OF ALL OF OUR VENDORS.
THIS WAS A SURPRISING REQUEST AS WE HAD BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS, AND THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS REQUEST HAD BEEN MADE.
WE CALLED THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE TO UNDERSTAND WHY THIS REQUEST WAS MADE.
THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE TOLD US THEY NEEDED TO CONFIRM THAT ALL VENDORS DOING BUSINESS IN GLAND COUNTY ARE REGISTERED THROUGH THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE OFFICE.
WE IMMEDIATELY COMPLIED SENDING THEM A COMPLETE LIST OF OUR VENDORS AT THAT TIME, WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO OUR VENDORS TO CONFIRM THEY UNDERSTOOD THIS REQUIREMENT.
AND GOING FORWARD, WE HAVE SHARED THIS INFORMATION WITH ANY NEW VENDORS.
THIS IS WHERE THE CONFUSION BEGINS.
THE COM COMMISSIONER REVENUE PROVIDES DIFFERENT INFORMATION TO OUR VENDORS WHEN THEY HAVE ATTEMPTED TO REGISTER FOR AUCHAN COUNTY BUSINESS LICENSE.
IT SEEMS THEY'RE INTERPRETING THE LAW OR ORDINANCE DIFFERENTLY FOR EACH OF THEM.
FAST FORWARD TO MARCH 1ST WHEN 2023 BUSINESS LICENSE ARE DUE, ONE OF OUR VENDORS WENT TO REGISTER FOR A BUSINESS LICENSE EXPECTING TO HAVE NO FEE BASED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION.
THEY ARE A UGLAND COUNTY RESIDENT, AND THEIR SALES ARE LESS THAN $10,000 FOR 2022.
INSTEAD, THEY WERE TOLD THEY HAD TO PAY A $50 FEE FOR A PEDDLER'S LICENSE.
THEY WERE GIVEN NO REASON WHY THEY HAD TO REGISTER AS A PEDDLER AND NOT A RETAIL BUSINESS.
THEY WERE CONFUSED AND LEFT ANOTHER VENDOR LIVING IN ANOTHER COUNTY WAS TOLD HER P LICENSE FEE WOULD BE $50 FOR THE FIRST QUARTER AND MAY MAYBE MORE.
BOTH OF THESE VENDORS TURNED TO US, THE OWNERS OF RIVER OF COTTAGE, FOR ANSWERS.
I PERSONALLY WENT TO, UH, RENEW MY GUC LANE COUNTY BUSINESS LICENSE FOR MISSY'S BACK PORCH, AND I PAID $25 BASED ON MY 2022 SALES, WHICH I EXPECTED TO PAY.
WHEN I ASKED WHY OUR VENDORS WERE TOLD SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I WAS TOLD THEY HAD TO REGISTER AS A PEDDLER.
I ASKED IF THEY COULD GIVE ME ANYTHING IN WRITING OR THE ORDINANCE THAT DESCRIBED OUR VENDORS AS A PEDDLER, AND SHE SAID, NO, I COULD REFER TO THE ORDINANCE ONLINE AT THAT TIME, SHE ALSO GAVE ME A COPY OF, OF A LETTER DATED 2022, I'M SORRY, DECEMBER, 2022 THAT SHE SAID WAS MAILED OUT TO OUR VENDORS AND OTHER BUSINESSES IN UCHIN.
NONE OF OUR RE OUR VENDORS RECEIVED THIS LETTER.
I DID NOT RECEIVE THIS LETTER.
WE RECEIVED A PHONE CALL THIS PAST FRIDAY, MARCH 3RD FROM DEPUTY COMMISSIONER REVENUE.
INSTRUC INSTRUCTING ME TO TELL ANY RIVER ROAD COTTAGE VENDOR THAT HAS NOT ALREADY REGISTERED FOR THEIR 2023 BUSINESS LICENSE TO HOLD OFF DOING SO UNTIL WE HEAR BACK FROM HER THIS WEEK.
SHE SAID THE COMMISSIONER, REVENUE AND COUNTY ATTORNEY, ATTORNEY ARE MEETING TO CLARIFY AND REDEFINE CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
THIS BUSINESS LICENSE FEE IS BASED ON THE TOTAL GROSS RECEIPTS FOR THE CALENDAR YEAR.
THIS TOTAL INCLUDES OUR VENDOR SALES.
WHY THEN OUR VENDORS REQUIRED TO PAY A LICENSE FEE BASED ON THEIR SALES TOTAL WHEN WE'VE ALREADY PAID THAT AS A SMALL BUSINESS ALONG WITH OUR VENDORS.
WE NEED CLARIFICATION AND YOUR HELP IN MAKING SURE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS ARE TREATED FAIRLY AND CLASSIFIED AS A CORRECT TYPE OF BUSINESS UNDER OUR BUSINESS MODEL.
WE LOVE YOULAND COUNTY, AND WE ARE PROUD TO BE PART OF IT.
MAY I LEAVE ALL THESE COPIES, PLEASE? OKAY.
COULD LEAVE 'EM WITH A, WITH A CLERK.
I WAS AFRAID I WAS GONNA NEED A STOOL.
I'M LISA BOWEN, 79 DEERWOOD DRIVE GUM SPRING.
AND I AM ALSO ONE OF THE OWNERS OF RIVER ROAD COTTAGE.
MISSY HAS VERY CLEARLY LAID OUT THE FACTS OF THE ISSUE THAT HAS BROUGHT US HERE TODAY.
HOWEVER, THIS ISSUE INVOLVES REAL PEOPLE, SOME FROM GLAND COUNTY, SOME FROM NOT, SOME NOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE POURED THEIR HEARTS INTO THEIR BUSINESSES AND INTO RIVER ROAD COTTAGE AS A WHOLE.
IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO GET TO KNOW OUR PEOPLE, YOU'LL FIND THAT THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY THEY'RE VENDORS WITH US, A WAY TO AFFORD EXTRAS FOR THEIR FAMILY THERAPY.
THEY CHOOSE TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY, WHETHER THEY ARE FROM HERE OR NOT.
THESE SAME PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN SPECIAL PROJECTS THAT BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITY.
SOME OF THESE PROJECTS INCLUDE DONATING TO GLAND COUNTY SCHOOL, FUNDRAISERS, G Y A A FUNDRAISERS AND DONATING FOOD TO THE GUC FOOD PANTRY.
WE STRIVE TO HELP OUR VENDORS GROW AND SUCCEED, AND WE STRIVE AS A BUSINESS.
IT'S HELP PARK COMMUNITY GROW TO SERVE AS AN OUTREACH, A HELPING HAND, A PLACE TO RECEIVE AN ENCOURAGING WORD, SMILE OR NEEDED PRAYER WITHOUT CLEAR GUIDANCE FROM THE COUNTY.
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PROCEDURES, WE ARE LIMITED ON HOW WE CAN GUIDE OUR VENDORS WITHOUT SUPPORT FROM THE COUNTY.OUR SMALL BUSINESS CANNOT AFFORD TO BE THE VITAL AND CONTRIBUTING PART OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE ARE, AND THAT WE WISH TO REMAIN.
THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES MAY BE A NEW CONCEPT FOR THIS COUNTY.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME VISIT US, TALK WITH US, GET TO KNOW OUR STRENGTHS, GET TO KNOW WHERE WE STRUGGLE.
WE ARE MORE THAN JUST A BUSINESS LICENSE FEE.
MY ADDRESS IS 1990 SANDY HOOK ROAD, GUC, VIRGINIA.
UM, I'M ALSO THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF SIX PENCE HOME DECOR AT 29 13 RIVER ROAD, WEST SUITE E IN GLAND.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE A SIMILAR BUSINESS MODEL AS RIVER ROAD COTTAGE.
UM, I'M HERE TO ALSO REPRESENT MYSELF.
I WAS GREW UP AND RAISED HERE, SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KEEP MY SMALL BUSINESS HERE WHERE I GREW UP.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO RECEIVED THE SAME LETTER FROM THE COUNTY, UM, COMMISSIONER REVENUES OFFICE, STATING THAT EACH ONE OF OUR VENDORS AND DESIGNERS WOULD NEED TO HAVE THEIR OWN BUSINESS LICENSE AND ALSO HAVE TO PAY A PEDDLER'S FEE.
WELL, OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS NOT IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IS CURRENTLY WRITTEN.
FROM EVERYTHING THAT I'VE LOOKED AT, EVERYTHING THAT I'VE READ, MY RENDERS, EVERYONE ELSE HAS, HAS REVIEWED, FROM WHAT I COULD TELL, GLAND DOESN'T HAVE SOMETHING THAT SUPPORTS OUR ACTUAL BUSINESS MODEL.
SO WE'RE HERE TRYING TO GET THAT SUPPORT FROM YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR, OUR COMMUNITY TOGETHER AND OUR CUSTOMERS HAPPY, BECAUSE EVERYONE THAT COMES IN IS, WE'RE SO GLAD YOU'RE HERE.
AND WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING, IT'S MAKING IT HARDER AND HARDER AND HARDER FOR SMALL BUSINESSES LIKE US TO CONTINUE.
UM, YOU KNOW, OUR BUSINESS MODEL IS SET UP TO WHERE WE PAY ALL THE, THE STATE SALES TAX.
WE PAY A LARGER, UM, BUSINESS LICENSE FEE.
WE PAY ALL THE INSURANCE, LIABILITY INSURANCE.
WE PAY FOR IT ALL TO COVER EVERY, EVERYONE THAT'S, THAT'S A VENDOR IN OUR STORE.
UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR VENDORS AREN'T COMING IN, SITTING IN AND SELLING THEIR ITEMS TO EACH INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMER, THAT CUSTOMER THAT COMES INTO THE STORE.
AND THE WAY THAT THIS ORDINANCE, THAT THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO, WELL, THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE IS TRYING TO READ, IS THAT THEY'RE PEDDLING AND THEY'RE NOT PEDDLING BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THERE ACCEPTING THE MONEY.
THEY'RE NOT THERE SELLING THEIR GOODS.
WE ARE DOING IT AS A BUSINESS FOR THEM.
UM, SO THEREFORE, WE FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED.
AN ORDINANCE NEEDS NEEDS TO BE PUT IN PLACE TO SUPPORT OUR MODEL AND NOT TRY TO TAKE WORDING TO MAKE IT FIT WHEN IT DOESN'T FIT.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE TO SUPPORT.
AND HOPE YOU GUYS WILL REACH OUT TO US.
SO WITH THAT, IT EVEN SAYS THAT I WOULD NEED TO GET A PILLAR'S LICENSE, I GUESS, TO BE A REALTOR ALSO IN EVERY COUNTY THAT I'M, I SELL IT.
AND SO IT, IT, IT COVERS A LOT MORE THAN JUST ONE THING.
SO, UM, Y'ALL COULD ALWAYS REACH OUT TO ME.
SO FOLKS, WE, WE TRY TO REFRAIN FROM OUTBURSTS.
SO I, THEM, THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
HELLO, MY NAME IS MARCY REESE.
I LIVE AT 41 35 SHANNON HILL ROAD, COLUMBIA, VIRGINIA.
UM, LIVED IN GSON COUNTY 21 YEARS.
I AM A CONSIGN AT BOTH RIVER ROAD COTTAGE AND SIX PENCE HOME DECOR.
I SELL MY CRAPS THERE AND I LIKE TO MAKE STUFF.
SOMETIMES I GET STUFF FROM THE DUMP, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
UM, I DO HAVE A BUSINESS LICENSE.
UM, BASICALLY HOW IT WORKS IS I BRING IN MY MERCHANDISE.
I PRICE IT, UM, I KEY IT INTO THE SYSTEM.
THE SHOP OWNERS SELL IT FOR ME.
THEY TAKE THE RENT BASED ON HOW MUCH SPACE IN THEIR SHOP I'M USING UP.
I GET A CHECK AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
UM, GOODEN COUNTY DOESN'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON THEIR BOOKS.
HOWEVER, NEIGHBORING COUNTIES DO.
I DO BUSINESS IN PALATAN AS WELL.
UM, WE'RE ALL A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THIS WHOLE THING.
UM, I'M MOSTLY CONFUSED ABOUT WHY NOW IS THIS COMING UP WHEN THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR QUITE A WHILE.
UM, WE COULD USE SOME HELP AND GUIDANCE ON GETTING THIS RESOLVED FOR EVERYBODY.
AND, UH, I CAN ASSURE YOU GUTCHEN COUNTY IS GETTING THEIR TAX REVENUE.
THEY'RE GETTING EVERYTHING THAT THEY SHOULD BE GETTING.
UM, THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE HAS SENT LETTERS TO SOME PEOPLE, NOT OTHERS.
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IT'S NOT REALLY FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD.UM, THEY WANT TO CHANGE THE CURRENT ORDINANCE TO ENHANCE THE PEDDLER'S DESCRIPTION.
UM, WE DON'T FALL INTO THAT CATEGORY.
UM, WE DON'T FALL INTO THE ITINERANT MERCHANT'S DESCRIPTION.
AND IF THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO DO THAT, I THINK THAT'S WRONG.
THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO DO.
UM,
THEY'RE, THEY CAN ENFORCE THEM.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE US FIT INTO WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS, AND THAT'S JUST NOT GONNA WORK.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD WITH CONCERNS FROM? OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JONATHAN LYLE, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD, CHAIRMAN OF THE MONA AND SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, AND THE FARM BUREAU, GSON FARM BUREAU DIRECTOR.
MY COMMENTS ARE MY OWN, NOT ON BEHALF OF EITHER OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT I WANNA START OFF BY SAYING THANK YOU.
UH, AND I'M GONNA NAME, NAMES MR. CASH.
I MET WITH THE FARM BUREAU RECENTLY AND DID A REALLY GREAT JOB EXPLAINING THE DRAFT SOLAR COLLECTION FACILITY, UH, ORDINANCE THAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT.
HE WAS VERY PATIENT, VERY KIND.
UM, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE OUTREACH THAT HE TOOK AND, AND MAY TO COME.
UH, AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HIS TIME WAS RECOGNIZED AND APPRECIATED.
I ALSO WANNA MENTION AND INVITE YOU ALL, UH, TO JOIN US FOR LUNCH WARFARE THE WHOLE DAY, IF YOU'RE SO INCLINED ON, UH, MARCH 22ND, THE AREA THREE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS ARE MEETING AT THE AG CENTER OUT ON DOGTOWN ROAD.
UH, THIS WILL BE ABOUT, UH, 15, MAYBE 18 DIFFERENT COUNTIES, UH, SIX DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
SO IT, IT'S OUR TURN THIS YEAR AT MON AND TO HOST IT, UH, NOT TO TRY AND BRIBE YOU, BUT PIGS AND SMOKE ARE GOING TO BE CATERING IT.
SO, UH, THERE'LL BE SOME GOOD BARBECUE THERE IF YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN US FOR THAT.
UM, I, WE ALSO AND MONICA ARE BEGINNING OUR WORK LIKE YOU ON OUR 22, I'M SORRY, 23, 24 BUDGET.
WE'RE NOT COUNTING THE CHICKENS.
THEY HAVEN'T HASHED YET, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER MILLION DOLLAR YEAR IN DISTRIBUTING, UH, AGRICULTURAL SUPPORT TO PRODUCERS HERE IN THE DISTRICT.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, WELL, NOT UNFORTUNATELY, ALL OF THAT'S NOT IN GOLAND, BUT, UH, WE ARE PUTTING AS MUCH EFFORT AS WE CAN INTO GETTING CONSERVATION ON THE GROUND HERE IN THE COUNTY, UH, ON A FARM BUREAU.
UH, WE ARE ALSO SUPPORTING AG IN THE CLASSROOM.
UH, I LOVE STRAWBERRIES IS THE BOOK THAT WE'LL BE, UH, DISTRIBUTING.
AND, UH, IT'S ALMOST A LITTLE BIT OF A HOW TO PLANT STRAWBERRIES AND GRO 'EM YOURSELF.
UH, THE LAST THING I WOULD MENTION IS THAT, UH, YOU ARE AWARE OF IT CUZ YOU'RE SUPPORTING IT.
APRIL 1ST, THERE'S GONNA BE AN AG FAIR OUT AT THE AG CENTER ON DOGTOWN ROAD.
UH, PEOPLE WHO MAYBE HAVE NOT HAD AN UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH LIVESTOCK ARE ABLE TO COME OUT AND, UH, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT A PETTING ZOO, BUT THERE'LL BE SOME LIVESTOCK THERE.
ANOTHER AGRICULTURAL FOCUSED THINGS.
THE LAST COMMENT I WANTED TO SAVE IS ON THE SOLAR.
WELL, I THINK, NO, NO, I THINK IT'S NOT READY.
OH, WHOA,
UH, THE, THE, THE SOLAR POLICY CURRENTLY MANDATES THAT, UH, SOLAR COLLECTION FACILITIES BE ON AGRICULTURAL LAND.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE.
WE HAVE A RECLAIMED LANDFILL HERE IN THE COUNTY THAT POTENTIALLY COULD HOUSE, UH, SOLAR COLLECTION PANELS IN ITS RED.
ANYONE ELSE FOR CITIZEN COUNT? OKAY.
SEEING NO ONE, I'M CLOSING THE CITIZEN COM CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
UM, BOARD YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, UH, THE MEETING MINUTES FROM THE JOINT WORK SESSION JANUARY 11TH
[VIII. Approval of Action Minutes]
AND THE REGULAR MEETING JANUARY 7TH.HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO SUBMIT THEM INTO THE RECORD? MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE MINUTES FROM THOSE TWO LAST SESSIONS.
ANY DISCUSSION CHANGES? AMENDMENT.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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THANK YOU.NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE SECTION OF OUR BUSINESS MEETING WHERE WE GO THROUGH OUR REPORTS.
OUR FIRST REPORT IS FROM OUR GOOD
[IX. Reports]
FRIENDS AT VDOT, UH, MR. WYNN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, MR. CARPENTER MARSHALL WYNN WITH VDOT.[1. 5664: VDOT - February 2023]
UH, THIS PAST MONTH WE HAD 141 WORK ORDERS COMPLETED.153 AT SIX AFTER HOUR CALL OUTS.
BEEN DOING, YOU KNOW, MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE MONTH, POTHOLE, PATCHING, SHOULDER REPAIR, PIPE REPLACEMENT, AND CLEANING, DITCHING SIGN, UH, REPAIR AND TRASH PICKUP.
PROBABLY WENT THROUGH THE ROUTE SIX, UH, PAVING OPERATION.
SO THEY'RE STEALING MY FUNDER, HUH? YEAH, I WENT THROUGH IT TOO.
SO JUST, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, CUZ I, I KNEW THEY WERE GONNA START YESTERDAY AND I SHARED THAT INFORMATION WITH, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN, THAT SORT OF THING.
THEY SHOULD BE DONE WITH THAT PAVING PROJECT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SO IT SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE AFTER THAT.
UH, ONE THING FOR, UH, CHIEF FERGUSON, THE OPCON INSTALLATION IS COMPLETE.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES, LET US KNOW.
WE'LL DEAL WITH THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
UM, THE OTHER THING, THE, UH, PAYMENT MARKING ON WHITE HALL.
I'M WORKING WITH PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT NOW, PROBABLY BE SOMETIME IN APRIL BEFORE WE CAN GET OUT THERE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE WAITING ON PAINT, UH, SUPPLIES TO COME IN.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN I WILL BE BACK TONIGHT AT SIX FOR THE FAIRGROUNDS, UH, PRESENTATION.
OTHER THAN THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, LET ME KNOW.
BOARD MEMBERS, ANYTHING AT THIS TIME? MR. PETERS? I CAN'T RESIST.
UM, AND I CERTAINLY DON'T MIND YOU CLOSING DOWN OUR MAIN THOROUGHFARES MIDDAY ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF THE MONTH.
I, THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR CALL,
UM, AND YOU DID MENTION THAT YOU LET AUSTIN KNOW.
HOW FAR DOES THAT NOTICE GO? I'M HAPPY TO MAKE ALTERNATIVE ARRANGEMENTS TO GET HERE.
I JUST, HOW FAR DID, FOR INSTANCE, WE, WE WILL LET, WE LET HIM KNOW LAST WEEK THAT WORK WAS GONNA START ON MONDAY, MARCH 6TH.
HOW ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY? CUZ I WASN'T SO WORRIED ABOUT MYSELF AS I WAS SITTING THERE FOR HALF AN HOUR AFTER I CHANGED ALL THE PRESETS ON MY RADIO AND DIDN'T SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
I WAS RUNNING OUTTA THINGS TO DO.
I LOOKED AROUND AND DIDN'T SEE ANY EMERGENCY VEHICLE.
SOMETIMES YOU'LL HAVE A SHERIFF DEPUTY OR A STATE POLICE WITH LIGHTS GOING AS A TRAFFIC COMING.
WERE THEY AWARE THAT THEY'D LOSE A HALF AN HOUR IF THEY WERE TRYING TO GET TO A HOUSE FIRE? UH, DON'T KNOW.
DIDN'T, DIDN'T SUPPLY THAT INFORMATION.
MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON TODAY.
LET'S WORK ON THAT TOGETHER TO GET BETTER AT WHAT WE DO.
AND WHAT SIZE PROJECT DOES IT NEED TO BE TO GET THE, THE SCREEN, THOSE BOARDS UP CONSTRUCTION COMING TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, CONSTRUCTION COMING A WEEK FROM NOW.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SEE ON MESSAGES, YOU SEE IT EVERYWHERE ON THE HIGHWAYS.
WE, WE, WE SUPPLY, WE SUPPLY MESSAGE BOARDS FOR DETOURS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, AND USUALLY WE DO THAT TWO WEEKS AHEAD OF TIME.
IT'S NOT, SO IT'S NOT BASED ON SIZE OF THE ROAD, IT'S, IT'S OKAY.
YEAH, I MEAN, THEY, THEY HAVE A PILOT TRUCK RUNNING THROUGH THAT AREA.
AND I WAS SITTING THERE PROBABLY 10 MINUTES WOULDN'T, I WAS SITTING THERE ABOUT 10 MINUTES.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT THAT'S AN EXTENSIVE, THE MILLING FOUR INCHES, PUTTING TWO INCHES OF INTERMEDIATE MIX AND TWO INCHES OF SURFACE MIX AND THEN PUTTING PAVEMENT MARKING DOWN THROUGH THAT SECTION FROM, FROM CARDWELL TO DOVER TWO MILE SECTION.
UM, WHEN WE MET, UM, UH, WITH STAFF FOR OUR QUARTERLY UPDATE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE WEBSITE THAT KINDA SHOWS THE UPDATES FOR THE PROJECTS WHEN THEY'RE GOING ON.
AND THE, THE NEW PAVING SCHEDULE, UH, I LOOKED LAST WEEK AND THAT HASN'T BEEN UPDATED YET.
DO YOU KNOW, CAN YOU FIND OUT WHEN THAT MIGHT BE UPDATED REASON BEING, I'M GETTING CALLS PROBABLY EVERY TWO TO THREE DAYS ABOUT, UM, A ROCK HALE AND JUST HOW, YOU KNOW, THEY DID THE FIRST TREATMENT TO PREP, WHICH MAKES, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND IN LIFE SOMETIMES THINGS HAVE TO GET WORSE BEFORE THEY GET BETTER, BUT, UH, THE GUY CALLED, HE ALMOST LOST HIS, HIS JEEP CUZ HE HIT THE THING THE WRONG WAY.
SO CREATING A DANGEROUS SITUATION.
SO I'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO TELL HIM, WELL, IT'S, WE'LL, IT'LL BE ON, IT IS ON THE SCHEDULE IN HERE POTENTIALLY WHEN, I MEAN, THE ONLY INFORMATION I I GET A TWO WEEK LOOK AHEAD.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN REALLY, YOU KNOW, SAY, WELL, THEY HAVE THAT, UM, THE, THE, I THINK, UH, PHILLIP WAS REFERRING TO A WEBSITE THAT I'VE GONE TO AND IT FOUND, AND IT SHOWS SORT OF SCHEDULES LIKE TENTATIVE.
IT SHOWS THE ROADS THAT ARE GONNA BE RESURFACED.
IT'S A CERTAIN COLOR BEFORE IT STARTS.
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AND WHEN IT'S FINISHED, IT CHANGES COLOR.MR. PETERSON, IF I COULD, I DID HAVE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.
UM, I HAD GOTTEN SOME NOTICES FROM CITIZENS ABOUT THE INTERSECTION OF MANNEQUIN AND HERMITAGE.
HAD YOU GOTTEN LOOPED INTO THAT AT ALL? UM, I GUESS THERE WAS SOME ACCIDENTS THERE AND THEY WERE WONDERING IF WE SHOULDN'T DO SOME ENHANCED STOP SIGNS OR SOMETHING TO PREVENT FUTURE.
ANYWAY, HERMITAGE AND MANNEQUIN IS ONE OF 'EM.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE THAT CONTINUES TO COME UP IS HAWK AND TUCKO PARKWAY.
AND ON THAT ONE IT WAS MORE IF THERE'S GONNA BE BE A, IF THERE'S GONNA BE A FIREHOUSE THERE, MAYBE SOME SIGNS DOWN THE ROAD THAT SAY CAUTION FIREHOUSE AHEAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I I I KNOW THERE'S A FIRE STATION PLANNED FOR THAT AREA.
THOSE WERE THE TWO INTERSECTIONS THAT CITIZENS HAD BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
SO, SO HERMITAGE AND, UH, HERMITAGE.
UH, YEAH, I HT WHICH, WHICH INTERSECTION? THE, THE WESTERN ONE.
THE EASTERN ONE, OR, I KNOW, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS.
A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T COME TO A FULL STOP TILL THEY'RE IN THE INTERSECTION.
I THINK WE JUST HAD A RECENTLY, UH, YOU CAN CONFIRM WHERE THE SHERIFF, THERE WAS JUST RECENTLY A, A PRETTY GOOD ACCIDENT THERE.
SO IF WE COULD JUST TAKE A LOOK AT MAYBE SOME ADVANCED NOTICE THERE, UH, CITIZENS WERE SUGGESTING POSSIBLY A LIGHTED STOP SIGN LIKE WE HAVE UP AT, UH, FAIRGROUNDS IN BROAD THAT SEEMS UNDERSTOOD.
COMPING JUST, I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE A STOP AHEAD SIGN ON BOTH LEGS OF THAT.
BUT SOMETHING I'LL HAVE TO RUN THROUGH TRAFFIC ENGINEERING TO GET APPROVAL FOR.
I APPRECIATE YOUR REFERENCE ON THAT.
AND NONE OF THIS SHOULD IN ANY WAY DISCOURAGE FEEDBACK FROM SPENDING MONEY IN GOODSON.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO.
NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR DIRECTOR OF HRS, MSS SALI DE DYSON FOR OUR INTRODUCTION TO NEW COUNTY STAFF.
[2. 5660: Introduction of New County Staff]
GOOD AFTERNOON, BOARD CHAIR MEMBERS, SHEHA DYSON, HR DIRECTOR, AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING OUR FEBRUARY HIRES FOR GIN COUNTY.UM, AS I CALL YOUR NAME, I JUST ASK THAT YOU WILL PLEASE STAND.
UM, FIRST ON FEBRUARY 1ST, MARY ZAPATA JOINED THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AS THE PURCHASING DIRECTOR.
IN THIS ROLE, SHE WILL OVERSEE PROCUREMENT AND MANAGEMENT OF A VARIETY OF COMMODITIES AND SUPPLIES FOR THE COUNTY.
MARY COMES TO GUC LYNN WITH YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN PURCHASING AND THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR.
SHE MOST RECENTLY SERVE AS A PROCUREMENT ANALYST FOR UNOS.
ADAM ROBS JOINED THE BUILDING INSPECTION TEAM ON FEBRUARY 16TH AS THE COMMERCIAL PLANS EXAMINER.
ADAM WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR EXAMINING COMMERCIAL BUILDING PLANS FOR COMPLIANCE.
ADAM COMES TO GLAND FROM THE CITY OF PETERSBURG, WHERE HE SERVED AS A PROPERTY MAINTENANCE INSPECTOR.
HE ALSO HAS EXPERIENCE IN ENGINEERING PROJECT MANAGERS.
AND I WANT TO AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE TEAM AND WELCOME YOU WELCOME.
STAFF FOR THE NEXT TWO REPORTS.
THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY REPORT AND THE AP REPORT FROM OUR TREASURER
[3. 5648: Planning and Development Activity]
ARE INCLUDED.UH, PLEASE REFER TO PROPER STAFF AND OUR TREASURER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND NOW WE HAVE, UH, MR. DRUMRIGHT FOR OUR MONTHLY BROADBAND REPORT.
[5. Broadband Report]
GOOD AFTERNOON, PAUL DRUMRIGHT, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS MANAGER.AND IF YOU JUST, UH, GIMME ONE SECOND.
I HAVE VISUALS I'M BRINGING WITH ME TODAY.
ONE, I THINK KNOWING THAT SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT SPOKE EARLIER TODAY FOR SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN, IN YOUR UPDATES SINCE I THINK IT MIGHT AFFECT THEM IN A POSITIVE WAY.
UH, AGAIN, UH, PRU WRIGHT COMMUNITY AFFAIRS MANAGER, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO GIVE YOU A, UH, BROADBAND UPDATE ON OUR BROADBAND, UH, PROJECTS WE HAVE GOING ON IN THE COUNTY.
UH, WE HAVE HERE ON THE MAP IN FRONT OF YOU, FOCUSING ON OUR MAJOR PROJECT, WHICH WE REFER TO AS THE RISE PROJECT, REGIONAL INTER INTERNET SERVICE EXPANSION THAT WE ARE PARTNERING WITH, UH, FIREFI FIBER BROADBAND, AS WELL AS, UH, THOMAS JEFFERSON PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION AND DOMINION ENERGY, RAPPAHANNOCK ELECTRIC, UH, CO-OP, AS WELL AS THEN ABOUT 12 OTHER LOCALITIES.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IT, IT IS A, UH, PUZZLE PIECE FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND, UH, A COUPLE OF MY UP UPDATES ARE GONNA GO INTO A COUPLE MORE MAPS.
UH, BUT FOR STAYING ON THIS ONE FIRST, WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT, UH, THE FIREFLY FOOTPRINT AREA.
SO THE BLUE AREAS, WHICH, LET ME
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SEE IF I CAN GET THAT.SO UP HERE AND RIGHT HERE, SERVICE IS AVAILABLE TODAY.
IT IS, IF YOU GO TO FIREFLY VA UH, DOT COM, YOU CAN GET SERVICE SIGN UP TO GET SERVICE NOW.
SO THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'VE ALREADY EXTENDED IT.
THEY'RE HOOKING UP PEOPLE AS PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR IT.
UM, MOVING INTO, THIS IS THE RAPPAHANNOCK ELECTRIC CO-OP AREA.
SO THIS AREA RIGHT HERE AND THEN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, ERICS WE'RE SPEAKING, BUILDING THE FIBER IN THAT AREA.
THEY EXPECT TO HAVE CONNECTIONS TO THAT AREA, UH, STARTING, UH, SPRING 2023.
UM, SO AGAIN, THAT'S PART OF THE GREATER PROJECT, BUT THAT, UH, RAPPAHANNOCK HAS BEEN BUILD, BUILDING THE BACKBONE FIBER FOR THAT.
FIREFLY IS GONNA BE DOING THE LAST MILE CONNECTION.
THIS AREA IS OUR, WHAT WE CALL THE RECONNECT AREA.
AND IT IS KIND OF A SCATTERED AREA AS YOU CAN SEE.
UH, AND THAT'S BECAUSE THIS WAS A U S D A GRANT THAT WE APPLIED FOR ACTUALLY IN 2020.
IT GOT, UH, HAD TO BE A SECOND APPLICATION IN 2021.
AND THEY ARE SET TO START WORKING ON THAT SUMMER OF 2023.
THEY'RE RIGHT NOW IN THE, UH, ENGINEERING PHASE OF THAT PROJECT.
UM, SO THAT IS GONNA BE COMPLETELY UNDERGROUND DONE BY FIREFI THEMSELVES.
UH, AND SO THAT'S AGAIN IN THE ENGINEERING PHASE AND WE'LL BE, UH, MOVING FORWARD.
UH, THEY RIGHT NOW ESTIMATE THE SUMMER OF 2023.
MOVING BACK TO OUR LARGER MAP, UH, ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT IS WHERE IS DOMINION IN THEIR COMPONENT ON THIS PROJECT? AND SO HAPPY TO SHARE AN UPDATE THAT I HAVE FROM DOMINION.
UM, AND SO DOMINION IS GONNA BE BUILDING THE MIDDLE MILE FIBER IN THE YELLOW AREAS, AND THEY'RE ALSO GONNA THE, AND SO THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING THAT.
AND THEN FIREFLY'S GONNA BUILD THE LAST MILE AFTER THAT, FIREFLY WILL LEASE THE MIDDLE MILE FIBER FROM DOMINION AND THEN BUILD THE LAST MILE CONNECTION TO HOMES.
SO WHERE ARE WE TODAY? UM, RIGHT NOW THEY HAVE ABOUT 29.85, UH, MILES LEFT TO GO THROUGH IN THEIR, UH, REVIEW PROCESS OF GETTING EASEMENTS IN, IN THEIR DESIGN.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THEY'VE ALREADY DONE 78.44 MILES OF THAT.
IT'S A TOTAL OF 108.29 MILES OF MIDDLE MILE FIBER THAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD THERE.
SO THEY HAVE ALMOST FINISHED GOING THROUGH THAT PROJECT, DOING THE QUALITY CONTROL OF THEIR DESIGN TO GET STARTED.
I BRING GOOD NEWS BECAUSE THEY'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY IDENTIFIED WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO START THEIR FIRST BUILD.
UM, AND WE'VE BEEN SAYING BACK IN THE FALL, IT WAS GONNA BE ABOUT FIVE TO SIX MONTHS.
I BELIEVE THEY WERE HERE IN NOVEMBER.
IT WAS GONNA BE ABOUT FIVE TO SIX MONTHS THAT THEY'RE GONNA GET STARTED.
HAPPY TO REPORT THAT THEY HAVE NOW SAID IT'S GONNA BE STARTING IN A COUPLE WEEKS, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE STARTING, OH, IS THIS BLUE AREA RIGHT HERE.
SO THE THREE SQUARE AREA OF THE COUNTY, THEY ARE GOING TO GET STARTED WORKING ON THAT IN A COUPLE WEEKS.
UM, AFTER THEY FINISH THERE, THEY'RE GONNA BE MOVING BACK TO ALL THE OTHER YELLOW AREAS.
BUT FOR NOW, WE'RE GONNA BE FOCUSING ON THAT BLUE AREA, THE THREE SQUARE AREA, WHERE THEY'RE GONNA BE STARTING TO BUILD THAT MIDDLE MILE FIBER.
AND I'M ALSO PLEASED TO REPORT THAT FIREFLY HAS INFORMED US, UH, LAST WEEK THAT THEY ARE GOING TO START DATA COLLECTION IN THIS AREA AS WELL.
SO FIREFLY IS STARTING THEIR PROCESS BEFORE DOMINION HAS EVEN GOTTEN ANY FIBER MIDDLE MILE BUILT, WHICH IS GREAT TO HEAR.
GREAT TO SEE THAT THEY'RE MOVING TOGETHER IN TANDEM FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT.
UH, AS EVERYBODY WILL RECALL, DOMINION HAS GIVEN US THAT THEY WILL HAVE ALL THAT MIDDLE MILE FIBER IN ALL THAT YELLOW AREA BUILT BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.
SO BY THE END OF 2023, AND AS IT'S BUILT, IT GETS TURNED OVER TO FIREFLY.
AND FIREFLY WILL START THEIR PROCESS, BUILD THEIR LAST MILE CONNECTIONS AND START HOOKING UP FOLKS.
SO IF YOU LIVE IN THIS BLUE AREA, BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR A NOTICE FROM FIREFLY.
MAKE SURE YOU SIGN UP AND MAKE SURE YOU REGISTER WITH FIREFLY SO THAT WHEN THEY COME AND GET READY TO CONNECT, YOU CAN GET SERVICE.
UM, AND THAT'S THE MAIN UPDATE I HAVE.
UH, AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
I SENSE A BIG SIGH OF RELIEF THERE, MR. DERM, RIGHT? OH, YES SIR.
ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD? SO RIGHT NOW, THE MESSAGE TO, TO CITIZENS IN THAT AREA
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IS YOU'RE GONNA START SEEING TRUCKS FROM DOMINION.PEOPLE SHOULD BE LOOKING OUT AT YOUR MAILBOX, UH, AND RIGHT FROM FIRE FIREFLY.
SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE TRUCKS FROM DOMINION STARTING TO DO THE MIDDLE MILE FIBER, AND IT IS GONNA BE UNDERGROUND FIBER FOR THAT AREA FOR MOST OF THAT AREA.
IT, IT IS GONNA BE UNDERGROUND FIBER IN THAT AREA THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO, WHICH IS BETTER BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON POLES OR ANYTHING.
SO IT WILL HAVE LESS OPPORTUNITIES TO BE DAMAGED UNLESS YOU'RE SOMEBODY'S DIGGING IN THE YARD.
UM, BUT SO YOU'RE GONNA SEE TRUCKS FROM DOMINION.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE, UH, CONTRACTORS FROM FIREFLY COMING THROUGH THAT AREA, DOING THEIR DATA COLLECTION, DOING THEIR, UH, WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO START FINALIZING THEIR PLANS IN THAT AREA.
SO IT IS COMING, IT IS HAPPENING.
AND WHAT'S IT, THEY FINISH THAT AREA.
THEY'RE GONNA BE ONTO THE REST OF THOSE YELLOW AREAS.
WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S PATIENCE.
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, MR. DRUMRIGHT.
[6. Board Reports]
ANYTHING FROM ANY OF THE MR, MR ON THE, ON THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING OR TPO? I HOPE EVERYBODY'S REGISTERED FOR MARCH 17TH.THE, IT'S, UH, JUST A COUPLE HOURS EARLY IN THE MORNING TRANSPORTATION FORM.
UM, TPO IS DOING THAT IN PARTNERSHIP WITH CHAMBER RVA, UH, CHAMBER IS GOING ON THEIR TRIP IN KANSAS CITY, THEIR CITY TRIP IN KANSAS CITY.
AND WE HOPE TO GIVE 'EM SOME THINGS TO TALK ABOUT WITH TRANSPORTATION AND BRING BACK TO US, UM, IN APRIL.
I'M HOPING, UM, I'M CHAIRING, YOU'D THINK I'D HAVE A LITTLE MORE CONTROL OVER THE AGENDA THAN I DO, BUT, BUT, UH, I KNOW THE FEELINGS MR.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO GET TACK THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH IS THE COUNTY'S TECHNICAL FOLKS, TO GIVE US A, A RECOMMENDATION ON COST OVERRUNS.
THAT'S BEEN A TOPIC FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS ON, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF COST OVERRUNS ON SOME PROJECTS, TYPICALLY OLDER PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, WERE STAGNANT.
BUT THERE'S ALSO, IT'S, THEY CAN'T BE EXPLAINED AWAY BY INFLATION AND AND SUPPLY CHAIN.
SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, UM, A COUPLE, COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
SO WE'LL SEE WHAT TAC RECOMMENDS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF AN IMPORTANT DECISION.
I THINK IT COULD HAVE, HAVE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON, ON REGIONAL PROJECTS IF WE GET A LITTLE BETTER HANDLE ON, ON CONSISTENCY IN HOW PROJECTS ARE GONNA BE DEVELOPED, HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE DESIGNED.
SO, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE C B T A.
I HOPE TO, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I THINK THAT THE CONCERN I HAVE FOR SMALLER COUNTIES IS, UH, DESIGN AND PLANNING MONEY.
UM, IF WE WERE, IF WE WERE TO, UH, DEPENDING ON THIS RECOMMENDATION THAT COMES FROM TACK.
SO LOTS OF GOOD THINGS GOING ON.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS Y'ALL KNOW, TRANSPORTATION HAS BECOME MUCH MORE OF AN ISSUE THAT WE DEAL WITH.
AND SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL HAVING, HAVING ME REPRESENTING YOU ON THE, ON THE TPO.
I THINK WE'RE POTENTIALLY DOING SOME GOOD THINGS.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, WE NEED TO GET THAT ON OUR CALENDARS.
I DON'T KNOW WHO DOES THAT, IF THAT COMES FROM PLAN RVA OR WHATEVER.
I'LL SEND MS. BAITZ THE INVITATION THAT I GOT AND YOU, YOU CAN REGISTER ON ONLINE, BUT I'LL SEND YOU THAT INVITATION AND WE CAN SHARE THAT OUT.
AND ALSO THE GOLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS POSTED, UH, DELAYS ON RIVER ROAD, SO GET THEIR APP TO GET THEY POSTED.
ANY OTHER REPORTS? MR. PETERSON? ANYTHING FROM FINANCE? YES, MR. JENNIFER.
FINANCE COMMITTEE, UH, DID NOT MEET THIS MONTH, BUT, UH, WE CONTINUE TO REFINE AND IRON OUT THE WRINKLES IN THE BUDGET, UH, BEFORE IT, UH, COMES TO US BACK IN, UH, IN APRIL.
UM, PART OF THE CHALLENGE, OF COURSE, IS ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
UM, THE EXPERTS WERE PREDICTING A RECESSION ANY DAY NOW.
UM, SIX MONTHS AGO THEY WERE PREDICTING A RECESSION ANY DAY NOW, UM, TODAY THE MARKET EXPERTS ARE PREDICTING A RECESSION ANY DAY NOW.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, KEEP PACE AND RUN ALONGSIDE THE, UM, THE OUTLOOK, UM, GIVEN THAT CRYSTAL BALLS TEND TO HAVE SOME FOG AT 'EM.
SO WE'RE CONTINUING TO REFINE THE NUMBERS AND IRON OUT THE WRINKLES AND SEE WHERE WE GO.
SEEING NONE, NO OTHER LIGHTS ON FOR THE BORDER PORTS.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THE SERVICE THAT YOU DO AROUND IN REPRESENTING THE COUNTY.
NO, NOTHING WOULD SAID SOMETHING.
UM, SO GOING INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA, UH, WE WILL HAVE, UH,
[X. Consent Agenda]
MR. CARPENTER GO THROUGH EACH OF THE ITEMS AND WE WILL DISCUSS WHETHER WE WANT TO, UH, APPROVE AS A SLATE OR PULL ANYTHING OUT.AND, UH, IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CARPENTER, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD YOU HAVE TODAY IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, FOUR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
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56 55.OUR SCHOOL BOARD WAS AWARDED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN ARPA FUNDS, ANOTHER 23,460 IN U S D A FUNDS.
THESE FUNDS ARE DESIGNATED TO PURCHASE 250 STUDENT IPADS AND TO PROVIDE THE CAFETERIA SUPPLY CHAIN ASSISTANCE WITHIN THE CAFETERIA FUND.
THE NEXT ITEM, 56 45 GIN COUNTY HAS PARTICIPATED IN A NATIONWIDE OPIOID LAWSUIT LIKE MOST US COUNTIES HAVE.
RECENTLY, SEVERAL NATIONAL SETTLEMENTS HAVE OCCURRED BETWEEN WALMART, WALGREENS, C V S, AND OTHERS RESULTING IN CLAIMS BEING PAID.
WE ARE ASKING THE BOARD TO ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION SO AS TO ALLOW US TO PARTICIPATE IN THESE SETTLEMENTS AND ALLOW STAFF TO EXECUTE THE DOCUMENTS AS NEEDED.
ONCE APPROVED, ALL FUNDS RECEIVED WILL BE ADMINISTERED PURSUANT TO THE TERMS OF THE VIRGINIA OPIOID ABATEMENT FUND AND THE 2021 SETTLEMENT ALLEGATION M MOU THAT WAS ENTERED INTO BETWEEN GOSHEN COUNTY AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, VIRGINIA AND THE VIRGINIA ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE.
THIS IS RECOMMENDED BY THE COUNTY'S OUTSIDE COUNSEL, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF VIRGINIA ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT WE APPROVE THIS.
THE NEXT ITEM, 56 41 AUTHORIZES THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO SIGN AN AMENDMENT TO THE EXISTING CONTRACT BETWEEN GSOM COUNTY AND THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA WASTE MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY FOR ROLL OFF SERVICES AND FRONT END RECYCLING SERVICES.
THIS WILL RENEW THE AGREEMENT FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS FROM JULY 23RD TO JUNE OF 28.
AND NUMBER 56 63 CHANGES THE START TIME FOR THE MARCH 14TH WORK SESSION, WHICH IS CURRENTLY LISTED AS NINE TO 1130 AND ONE O'CLOCK THREE 30 TO A START TIME OF ONE O'CLOCK TO THREE 30.
THOSE ARE THE ITEMS IS PRESENTED.
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE BOARD? I, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVES CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO DISCUSS, UH, A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, SEEING NONE.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
DO YOU HAVE OUR CONSENT TO DO SOME STUFF? ALL RIGHT.
[XI. New Business]
TURN IT OVER TO, UH, DR.RELEY FOR THE GSOM COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUDGET 2024 BUDGET PRESENTATION.
[1. 5661: Goochland County Public Schools FY2024 Budget Presentation]
ALL RIGHT.COULD YOU PUT IT UP THERE? OKAY.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES WITH YOU TODAY.
UM, MY GOAL IS TO SHARE WITH YOU, UH, THE SCHOOL BOARD'S APPROVED BUDGET FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UH, BUT ULTIMATELY BEYOND PRESENTING A SCHOOL BOARD BUDGET TO YOU, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO USE THIS MOMENT TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF SOME OF THE WORKINGS OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO ANY SORT OF FINANCIAL PLAN MUST BE ALIGNED WITH WHAT THE SCHOOL DIVISION OR ANY ORGANIZATION FEELS IS IMPORTANT.
SO THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE PRESENTATION, I'M HOPING THAT YOU GET A BETTER FEEL AND UNDERSTANDING FOR WHAT HAPPENS IN OUR CLASSROOMS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UH, THIS IS A SCHOOL BOARD BUDGET THAT WAS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY LAST TUESDAY, A SCHOOL BOARD BUDGET THAT STARTED IN DEVELOPMENT BACK IN OCTOBER.
AND SIMILAR TO THE PROCESS THE COUNTY FOLLOWS, UH, A LOT OF INFORMATION HAS BEEN GLEANED THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH RECOMMENDATIONS COMING FROM CLASSROOMS, PARENTS, STUDENTS, PRINCIPALS, DEPARTMENT HEADS, ULTIMATELY INTO AN ANALYSIS FROM SENIOR STAFF THAT WAS PRESENTED THROUGH SEVERAL WORK SESSIONS.
WE RECEIVED SURVEY FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF A MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT INPUT SOURCES TO CREATE A BUDGET THAT ULTIMATELY IS GOING TO ALLOW OUR SCHOOL DIVISION TO BUILD BETTER FOR BUILD BRIGHTER FUTURES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I'M PROUD OF THIS BUDGET PRESENTATION AND THIS RECOMMENDATION TO YOU, UH, MEMBERS OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, AS YOU'LL SEE AS WE GO THROUGHOUT, THIS IS A TIGHTLY WOUND BUDGET THAT ULTIMATELY IS ONLY THREE TENTHS OF A PERCENT HIGHER NEXT YEAR THAN IT IS THIS YEAR.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A LOT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL RESOURCES ALONG THE WAY.
SO MY GOAL FOR TODAY IS TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF THE SCHOOL BOARD'S BUDGET PHILOSOPHY WITH YOU.
UH, AS THIS IS A BUDGET WHERE I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE PUBLICLY THE GREAT THINGS OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION, I WANT TO HIT SOME OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
AND THEN OUR STRATEGIC PLAN OUTLINES THREE DIFFERENT GOAL AREAS AND WANT TO HIT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUNDING FROM EACH GOAL AREA.
AND THEN TALK ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE HAVE STRATEGICALLY ABANDONED SOME RESOURCES ULTIMATELY TO FUND SOME OF THE NEEDS OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE REDUCED SOME FULL-TIME EQUIVALENCIES.
WE'VE REDUCED SOME POSITIONS ULTIMATELY TO BRING THIS BUDGET IN, UH, UNDER ALIGNMENT AND TRULY BALANCED.
AND TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED FUNDING SOURCES FOR THIS.
SO A FEW THINGS FOR US TO HIT TODAY.
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND AS A SCHOOL DIVISION, OUR CORE ORGANIZATIONAL BELIEFS
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AND THE VISION OF THIS SCHOOL DIVISION HAS BEEN PRESENT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.DATING BACK TO 2011, WHERE THE SCHOOL BOARD AT THAT TIME HAD THE VISION TO DEVELOP WHAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH AS A SCHOOL DIVISION.
IT'S INSPIRING OUR CURRENT STUDENTS, OUR CURRENT STUDENTS, THE NEXT GENERATION IN OUR COMMUNITY TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE WORLD AROUND THEM.
WE KNOW THAT WE ARE EDUCATING THE FUTURE LEADERS OF THIS COUNTY, THIS STATE, THIS NATION, AND THIS WORLD.
AND ULTIMATELY, THE WORK THAT WE DO AS A PUBLIC SCHOOL DIVISION HAS FAR REACHING IMPACTS, NOT ONLY NOW BUT WELL INTO THE FUTURE.
OUR DAILY MISSION IS TO MAXIMIZE, NOT, NOT MINIMIZE, BUT MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL OF EACH AND EVERY LEARNER THAT WALKS THROUGH OUR DOORS.
WE ARE A PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, PULL PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, THE WELCOMES 2,600 LEARNERS FROM A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS EVERY DAY.
AND IT IS OUR MISSION EVERY DAY TO MAXIMIZE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL AND UNIQUE POTENTIAL.
UH, THESE ARE NON-NEGOTIABLE CORE BELIEFS OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
THAT BEING EXCELLENCE, NUMBER ONE, CREATIVITY, COURAGE, DOING OUR WORK WITH HONOR AND AT ALL TIMES, HAVING OPTIMISM THAT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING IS GOING TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE LIVES OF OUR STUDENTS.
AND THE THREE CORE GOALS THAT I'M GOING TO HIT TODAY RELATED TO ACADEMICS, THE ORGANIZATIONAL CLIMATE, AND THEN THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEEDED TO SUPPORT INSTRUCTION.
SO ULTIMATELY, THIS IS A BUDGET, A BALANCED BUDGET THAT ALIGNS THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT WE NEED WELL INTO THE FUTURE, AND ALIGNS THOSE FINANCIAL RESOURCES WITH OUR INSTRUCTIONAL GOALS AND THE GOALS RELATED TO OUR BUSINESS OPERATIONS.
SO THERE IS NOT $1 SPENT IN THIS RECOMMENDED BUDGET THAT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH WHAT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS IDENTIFIED AS A CORE STRATEGIC, UH, PRIORITY MOVING FORWARD.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAVE OUR VISION, OUR MISSION, OUR CORE VALUES, AND OUR STRATEGIC GOALS.
BUT ULTIMATELY, EVERY DECISION THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS MADE ALONG THE WAY IS BASED ON THE STUDENTS THAT WE SERVE IN MAKING ALL OF THEIR DECISIONS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE 2,600 STUDENTS IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THE CITIZENS OF UCHIN COUNTY HAVE INVESTED OVER FOUR 40 MILLION IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT EVERY PENNY THAT IS SPENT IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THIS COMMUNITY IS PAYING DIVIDENDS TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH STUDENTS WHO IN FACT ARE PREPARED VERY, VERY WELL FOR LIFE AFTER HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO ARE RECEIVING EXCEPTIONAL INSTRUCTION DAY IN AND DAY OUT IN THE CLASSROOM.
AND I CAN SAY THAT WE ARE PROUD OF EVERY INVESTMENT THAT IS MADE AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WITH THOSE DOLLARS AND SOME SIGNIFICANT ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL DIVISION.
ONE OF THOSE ACCOMPLISHMENTS BEING THAT WE ARE RECOGNIZED WORLDWIDE AS HAVING FIVE, ALL FIVE OF OUR SCHOOLS AS APPLE DISTINGUISHED SCHOOLS THAT ARE LESS THAN 700 WORLDWIDE.
WE ONLY HAVE FIVE SCHOOLS AND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING TO IMPLEMENT TECHNOLOGY AS A TOOL TO SUPPORT STUDENTS IN THEIR INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM.
I'VE SAID IT PUBLICLY, I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, BUT IF WE WANT STUDENTS TO DO THE WORK OF THE WORLD, WE NEED TO PROVIDE THE TOOLS OF THE WORLD.
AND CERTAINLY TECHNOLOGY IS EVER PRESENT IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
AND WE'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR HOW WE'RE USING THAT TECHNOLOGY TO SUPPORT INSTRUCTION.
AND FOR FIVE YEARS IN A ROW, WE'RE PROUD TO SAY THAT NICHE.COM HAS RATED OUR PUBLIC SCHOOL DIVISION AS THE NUMBER ONE PUBLIC SCHOOL DIVISION IN THIS REGION.
NOT ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES, BUT FIVE YEARS IN A ROW.
WE'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED AS HAVING THE BEST PUBLIC SCHOOLS HERE IN THIS REGION AND RECOGNIZED AS WELL FOR HAVING THE BEST TEACHERS IN THIS REGION AS WELL.
CERTAINLY SOMETHING FOR US ALL TO BE PROUD OF.
AND ULTIMATELY WE ARE STEWARDS OF 40.6 MILLION OF TAXPAYERS HARD-EARNED MONEY.
AND IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY A RESPONSIBILITY WE DO NOT TAKE LIGHTLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MANAGE THOSE DOLLARS EXTREMELY WELL, THAT WE ARE EFFICIENT, THAT WE ARE TRANSPARENT, WE USE THOSE DOLLARS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION AND OUR STUDENTS.
AND SO WE HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION FOR HAVING A DISTINGUISHED BUDGET PRESENTATION.
AND I EXPECT WE WILL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE THOSE ACCOLADES.
YOU HAVE A COPY OF OUR BUDGET BOOK IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, WANT TO COMMEND OUR STAFF FOR THE GREAT WORK THEY HAVE DONE ON THAT.
IF YOU EVER WANNA FIND OUT ANYTHING ABOUT OUR SCHOOL DIVISION, DON'T CHECK OUR WEBSITE.
CHECK THAT BUDGET BOOK BECAUSE THERE IS A WEALTH OF INFORMATION IN THAT BUDGET BOOK THAT ALIGNS WITH ALL THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT ULTIMATELY WE NEED.
FULLY ACCREDITED ONE OF 10 SCHOOL DIVISIONS IN VIRGINIA WITH ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS FULLY ACCREDITED NOW FOR WELL OVER 10 YEARS.
AND CERTAINLY WE ARE AN ELITE COMPANY WHEN IT COMES TO ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT ARE INVESTED IN US.
WE ARE RETURNING A STRONG DIVIDEND ON THAT INVESTMENT.
WE EXCEED REGIONAL AVERAGES, WE EXCEED STATE AVERAGES IN ALL FOUR CONTENT AREAS.
AND YOU CAN SEE BASED ON PERFORMANCE METRICS LAST YEAR WHEN IT COMES TO PERFORMANCE ON THE STANDARDS OF LEARNING ASSESSMENTS, WE ARE WELL ABOVE MANY OF THE SCHOOL DIVISIONS AROUND US.
AND I'M EXTREMELY PROUD OF THOSE RANKINGS ON A ANNUAL BASIS.
AND THEN OUR ONE TIME GRADUATION RATE CONTINUES TO RISE.
UH, WE'RE UP AT 97, 98, 90 7%.
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TALKING ONE OR STU TWO STUDENTS HERE THAT WE NEED TO GET ACROSS THE STAGE TO GET US TO A HUNDRED PERCENT.AND SOMETIMES, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE UNIQUE STUDENT SITUATIONS THAT GET IN THE WAY OF THAT, THAT ARE OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
IF IT WAS IN OUR CONTROL, I GUARANTEE YOU THAT WOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ARE EXCEEDING THE STATE AVERAGE ONE ONE TIME GRADUATION RATE BY NEARLY 5%.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T TYPICALLY TOUT THAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF CELEBRATING IS OUR BULLDOGS WHO WALK ACROSS THE STAGE IN JUNE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO ANY COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY IN THIS NATION AND IN THIS WORLD.
AND SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S HANGING IN GLAND HIGH SCHOOL AND IT HAS A LIST OF THE STUDENTS AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO ALL THE GREAT COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES IN THIS STATE, AND THEY'RE ALSO GOING ACROSS THE NATION TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT PLACES.
AND SO WE ARE VERY WELL PREPARING STUDENTS FOR SUCCESS LONG AFTER HIGH SCHOOL.
WHETHER THEY'RE GOING TO COLLEGE, THEY'RE ENTERING IN A TRADE, THEY'RE GOING INTO THE MILITARY, WHATEVER STUDENTS ARE WANTING TO DO AFTER THEY LEAVE GUC HIGH SCHOOL, WE ARE FULLY PREPARING THEM EXTREMELY WELL.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DON'T CELEBRATE TOO, IS THAT WE HAVE ONE YOUNG MAN, JOSH USRI, WHO IS GOING TO THE UNITED STATES COAST GUARD ACADEMY.
I WANNA THANK MR. PETERSON FOR THE MENTORSHIP HE HAS PROVIDED TO JOSH.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE WE'VE HAD OUR ROTC PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE HAD A CADET GO DIRECTLY INTO ONE OF OUR ACADEMIES.
SO EXTREMELY PROUD OF JOSH AND THE GREAT THINGS THAT HE'S GONNA DO FOR THIS NATION.
WE ALSO HAVE ALLSTATE PERFORMERS AND VOLLEYBALL AND IN FOOTBALL, AND WE ALSO HAD TWO YOUNG MEN WHO ARE GOING TO CONTINUE THEIR STUDENT ATHLETE EXPERIENCE AT A DIVISION ONE COLLEGE PLAYING FOOTBALL NEXT YEAR.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT IN ANY SORT OF NUMBERS, BUT THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE SUCCESSES OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
AND SO FOR THE NEXT FEW SLIDES, BOARD MEMBERS, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO SEE INSIDE OUR SCHOOL DIVISION FOR A LITTLE BIT.
SO THESE THINGS ARE NOT GOING TO SHOW UP ON SOL RESULTS.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA SHOW UP ON MAP SCORES, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SHOW UP ON ANY SORT OF STATE REPORT, BUT THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING INSIDE OUR SCHOOL DIVISION EACH AND EVERY DAY.
AND SO YOU SEE SMILES, YOU SEE ENGAGEMENT, YOU SEE THE USE OF TECHNOLOGY, YOU SEE STUDENTS WHO ARE GETTING EXPERIENCES OUTSIDE OF THE TRADITIONAL EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENT.
YOU SEE STUDENTS WHO ARE COLLABORATING, WORKING TOGETHER.
YOU SEE STUDENTS WHO HAVE A VARIETY OF EXPERIENCES THAT, UH, ARE JUST, UH, SECOND TO NONE.
AND SO ULTIMATELY, AS A SCHOOL DIVISION, WE WANT TO CONTINUE THESE POSITIVE EXPERIENCES WELL INTO NEXT YEAR.
AND THIS BUDGET PROVIDES THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES WE FEEL CAN CONTINUE THIS STRONG TRACK RECORD AND THEN CONTINUE TAKE US TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
SO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THOSE IDENTIFIED NEEDS FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR THAT HAVE BUBBLED TO THE SURFACE THROUGH THE PROCESS ULTIMATELY APPROVED BY THE SCHOOL BOARD LAST TUESDAY.
NOW FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND I'LL TELL YOU BOARD MEMBERS, THIS TRULY IS A NEEDS-BASED BUDGET.
IF IT'S $104,000 MORE NEXT YEAR THAN IT IS THIS YEAR, THERE'S NO FLUFF IN THIS BUDGET.
UH, WE HAVE LOOKED AT EVERY BUDGET LINE.
WE HAVE LOOKED AT EVERY RESOURCE, AND WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE USING EVERY RESOURCE VERY, VERY WELL.
THIS TRULY IS A NEEDS-BASED BUDGET, AND YOU'LL SEE AT THE END THAT THERE ARE NEEDS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THIS REQUEST, THAT IN TIME YOU MAY SEE IN FUTURE YEARS.
AND ULTIMATELY, WE HAD TO PRIORITIZE AS ANYONE WOULD IN ANY SORT OF BUDGET.
AND SO THIS PRESENTATIONS INCLUDED IN THREE DIFFERENT GOAL AREAS.
THIS IS THE SCHOOL BOARD'S FIRST GOAL AREA IN THEIR STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THAT IS INSTRUCTION IN LIFELONG LEARNING.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT GOAL AREA IS ARTICULATED AS WELL AS SOME OF THE STRATEGIES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
UH, WANT TO TRANSITION INTO A, A VIDEO THAT HIGHLIGHTS OUR INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM.
I SHOWED SOME PICTURES, BUT WHEN YOU SEE THROUGH VIDEO WHAT OUR STUDENTS ARE EXPERIENCING, YOU MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IN CLASSROOMS. OUR SCHOOL DIVISION IS THE FIRST SCHOOL DIVISION TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION OF SUPERVISION AND CURRICULUM DE DEVELOPMENT FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING INSTRUCTIONALLY IN OUR CLASSROOMS. THEY CAME AND PROFILED GLAND COUNTY AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN OUR SCHOOLS, CREATED A 16 MINUTE VIDEO, AND I'VE CARVED THAT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO SEE TODAY.
SO IT'S RELEVANT BECAUSE IT TALKS ABOUT THE RESOURCES THAT WE NEED FROM AN INSTRUCTIONAL STANDPOINT TO CONTINUE OUR STRONG WORK.
GUC IS UNIQUE AND SPECIAL IN SO MANY WAYS, UH, BEGINS AND ENDS WITH OUR PEOPLE.
UH, WE HAVE AMAZINGLY TALENTED INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AND SUPPORTING OUR STUDENTS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UH, TALENTED PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE DEDICATED TO ENSURING THAT WE MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL OF EVERY LEARNER.
AND YOU SEE THAT DAILY IN OUR CLASSROOMS WITH THE EXPERIENCES THAT ARE AFFORDED TO OUR CHILDREN EVERY DAY, HAVE A, A REALLY PURPOSEFUL FOCUS ON THE STUDENT EXPERIENCE.
AND, AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT ALL THE TIME, MAKING SURE THAT, UM, OUR STUDENTS ARE HAVING THE BEST POSSIBLE EXPERIENCE THEY CAN, WHETHER IT'S IN THE CLASSROOM, WHETHER
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IT'S ON STAGE, WHETHER IT'S ON THE ATHLETIC FIELD.WE WANT OUR STUDENTS TO HAVE A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
AND OF COURSE, THAT STARTS AND ENDS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT WORK WITH THEM, THE PROFESSIONALS THAT WORK WITH THEM.
GOON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS YOU JUST GET THIS FEELING WHEN YOU WALK IN THE DOOR OF HAPPINESS.
UM, I MEAN, FROM THE MOMENT YOU HIT THE OFFICE, UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE YOU WHEN YOU ENTER YOUR CLASSROOM, THE TEACHER WELCOMES YOU WITH A SMILE.
WE MAKE SURE THAT WE PERSONALIZE EXPERIENCES FOR EVERYONE.
SO TEACHING AND LEARNING AT RANDOLPH IS REALLY BASED ON STUDENT EXPERIENCE.
SO WHEN WE SIT DOWN TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE, WE START WITH THE NEEDS OF THE STUDENT.
SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE START WITH BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING SHOULD START FOR A FOUNDATION.
SO OUR TEACHERS START THE YEAR BY TEAM BUILDING WITH THEIR CLASSES, YOU KNOW, TEAM BUILDING ACROSS DIFFERENT CLASSROOMS. SO IF THERE'S FOUR FIFTH GRADE TEACHERS THIS YEAR, THEY STARTED DOING ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF EXPERIMENTS AND PROJECTS JUST TO KIND OF SHOW THEM THAT THEY'RE A UNIT.
SO YOU MIGHT HAVE ONE ASSIGNED TEACHER, BUT WE'RE ALL THERE FOR YOU.
I THINK IF I HAD TO PICK JUST ONE THING, IT WOULD BE THE PEOPLE WE USING EVERY SPACE IN OUR BUILDING, UH, TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THE KIDS ARE GETTING EXACTLY WHAT THEY NEED AND WHEN THEY NEED IT.
YOU MAY EVEN SEE VOLUNTEERS WORKING WITH STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS OF, UH, LITERACY AND IN NUMERACY.
SO BIRD IS JUST A WONDERFUL PLACE TO BE.
WE HAVE A WONDERFUL SCHOOL CLIMATE.
CHEERS ARE SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE EXPERTS ON THAT CONTENT KNOWLEDGE AND THEY REALLY KNOW, UM, WHAT STUDENTS NEED TO, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT NEXT STEP.
BUT WHAT'S REALLY GREAT IS THAT THEY'RE SO WILLING TO TRY NEW THINGS TO HELP STUDENTS GO DEEPER, REALLY, UH, MAKE THE THE LEARNING MEANINGFUL IN THE CLASSROOM AND RELEVANT, I WAS CALLED IT A YES DISTRICT IN THE SENSE THAT IF YOU HAVE A GREAT IDEA, UM, IF YOU GOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE GOOD WITH KIDS, THAT'S HANDS ON LEARNING IF WE HAVE AN AMAZING CTE PROGRAM.
BUT I THINK THAT TRANSLATES TO OUR SCIENCE CLASSES WHERE, UM, EVERY DAY I'M OUT AND ABOUT AND I SEE SCIENCE TEACHERS AND LABS ALL THE TIME.
LIKE THEY'RE ALWAYS DOING SOMETHING.
YOU HAVE OUR SOCIAL STUDIES TEACHERS WHO ARE TRYING TO BRING SOCIAL STUDIES AND HISTORY LIFE TO THE KIDS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO MATH IN THE CLASSROOM.
LET'S GET OUT, LET'S GO OUTSIDE.
LET'S TAKE THIS MATH AND MAKE IT REAL WORLD.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES GIN SPECIAL IS, UM, THE TRUST THAT WE HAVE IN OUR TEACHERS AND OUR PROFESSIONALS.
AND, UM, AND ALSO THE WAY THE CARE THAT EVERYONE HAS FOR THE STUDENTS.
OUR TEACHERS HAVE THE ABILITY AND THE DESIRE TO BE VERY CREATIVE IN THEIR CLASSROOMS. WE WANT THE TEACHERS TO BE CREATIVE.
WE WANT THEM TO TRY NEW THINGS.
AND WE SUPPORT THAT EACH AND EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR.
THE GLAND COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE OF OUR PEOPLE.
SO BOARD MEMBERS, THE WAY THAT VIDEO ENDED IS THE REASON WE ARE SUCCESSFUL.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE NOT A MANUFACTURING ORGANIZATION.
WE ARE A PEOPLE ORGANIZATION WHO SUPPORTS STUDENTS AND ARE ULTIMATELY PREPARING THEM FOR GRADUATION.
AND SO THIS BUDGET DOES CONCLUDE PERSONNEL RESOURCES IN ORDER FOR US TO CONTINUE THE GREAT WORK THAT WE'RE DOING FROM AN INSTRUCTIONAL STANDPOINT SO THAT WE CAN TAKE WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THAT NEXT LEVEL.
THIS IS, UH, A BUDGET THAT DOES INCLUDE SOME ADDITIONAL STAFF, UH, AND A BUDGET THAT REDUCES STAFF ACCORDINGLY AS WELL, BUT IS A BUDGET THAT'S BASED ON SOME DATA THAT UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORTANCE OF SOME SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE DONE SOME GREAT WORK FOR OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
WHAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR SCREEN HERE IS SOME DATA FROM THE SPRING OF 2021, SPRING OF 2022.
AND DURING THE 2021 SCHOOL YEAR, WE HIRED SEVEN INTERVENTIONIST AT OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, INTERVENTIONIST, WHO WERE DESIGNATED TO PROVIDE SOME PINPOINT LITERACY AND NUMERACY SUPPORT TO OUR MOST RELUCTANT LEARNERS.
AND SO AT THE END OF THE SPRING 2021, WE HAD 31% OF OUR STUDENTS IN GRADES K ONE AND TWO WHO WERE NOT MEETING A STATEWIDE BENCHMARK WITH THE INTERVENTIONS THAT WE INCLUDED FOR THOSE STUDENTS LAST YEAR.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT NUMBER DWINDLED FROM 31% OF OUR STUDENTS TO 19%.
AND I DARE SAY THAT WHEN WE DO THIS ANALYSIS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THAT 19% IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO DECREASE.
ULTIMATELY, WE WANT THAT TO GET DOWN TO ZERO.
SO THIS BUDGET DOES INCLUDE NOT SEVEN OF THE ORIGINAL INTERVENTIONIST WHO ARE HIRED.
IT INCLUDES FOUR OF THE INTERVENTIONIST.
WE SEE THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DO THIS GREAT WORK.
AND SO THAT IS ONE DATA POINT.
AND AS MR. LUMPKINS KNOW, WE'RE A SCHOOL DIVISION THAT VALUES GROWTH OVER ACHIEVEMENT THAT'S BEEN EMBEDDED IN OUR DNA FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND SO THIS GRAPH SHOWS THE PERCENTAGE OF STUDENTS WHO MET OR EXCEEDED THEIR GROWTH GOALS IN MATHEMATICS AT THE END OF LAST YEAR.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THOSE STUDENTS THAT DID NOT HAVE ANY INTERVENTION, WE HAD 69% OF THOSE STUDENTS THAT MET THEIR GOAL.
AND THE MORE INTERVENTION THAT STUDENTS RECEIVED DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, YOU WOULD EXPECT THAT YES,
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THEY WOULD HAVE MORE SUCCESS.AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN THIS DATA IN MATHEMATICS.
BUT IT'S EXACERBATED WHEN YOU LOOK AT READING, IF ONLY 56% OF OUR STUDENTS MET OR EXCEEDED THEIR GOALS, IF THEY DID NOT HAVE ANY INTERVENTION.
BUT IF YOU WERE A CHILD IN READING AT THE END OF LAST YEAR THAT HAD INTERVENTION THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, 78% OF THOSE STUDENTS MET OR EXCEEDED THEIR GOALS.
SO THIS SHOWS THAT THE INVESTMENT THAT WE HAVE MADE IN THOSE INTERVENTIONISTS IS RETURNING DIVIDENDS AND STUDENTS WHO ARE MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN HAD THEY NOT BEEN THERE.
SO WE HAVE INCLUDED FOUR INTERVENTIONISTS IN THIS BUDGET, AND THIS IS JUST A TESTIMONIAL FROM ONE OF OUR STUDENTS PARENTS, AS WELL AS ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS WHO JUST UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT ADDITIONAL SUPPORT.
UH, THIS INTERVENTION IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE REGULAR CLASSROOM TEACHERS ABLE TO PROVIDE, AS WELL AS SOME READING SPECIALISTS AS WELL.
THIS BUDGET DOES INCLUDE AN ADDITIONAL SCIENCE TEACHER AT OUR SECONDARY LEVEL.
WHAT WE ARE SEEING BOARD MEMBERS IS A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT ARE CREATING THIS NEED.
WE'RE SEEING INCREASES IN CLASS SIZES.
YOU CAN SEE THAT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE UPWARDS OF 30 STUDENTS IN ONE OF OUR SCIENCE CLASSES AT GUC HIGH SCHOOL, 25 STUDENTS IN A MIDDLE SCHOOL SCIENCE CLASS.
AND THAT IS INCREASED, AS YOU CAN SEE, SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE AVERAGE CLASS SIZE JUST LAST YEAR.
AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.
UH, OUR ADVANCED COLLEGE ACADEMY ALLOWS STUDENTS TO GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE BEFORE THEY GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL.
AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT PROGRAM IS IN HOT DEMAND.
IT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT FOR OUR FAMILIES.
THEY'RE ABLE TO HAVE AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE FOR THEIR CHILDREN BY PAYING A NEGLIGIBLE COST.
THEY HAVE 60 TRANSFERRABLE CREDITS THEY CAN TAKE TO A COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY.
SO FAMILIES HAVE SEEN THE SUCCESSES AND WANT TO BE A PART OF IT.
AND SO WITH THAT INCREASE IN ACA PARTICIPATION, IT'S CREATED A LITTLE BIT OF A BURDEN ON OUR STAFFING LEVELS.
AND THIS SECONDARY SCIENCE TEACHER WILL HELP US ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT DEMAND THAT WE HAVE.
AND THIS IS JUST A PICTURE OF WHERE WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF STUDENTS AND THE SCIENCE CLASSIC GOON HIGH SCHOOL.
SO THE SECONDARY SCIENCE TEACHER WILL HELP US TO BE ABLE TO REDUCE SOME CLASS SIZES.
THE BUDGET REQUEST FROM THE BOARD ALSO RE CONCLUDES A READING SPECIALIST AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.
UH, WE HAVE A NEED TO SUPPORT OUR STUDENTS HERE TO A GREATER LEVEL THAN WE EVER HAVE.
WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT SUCCESS WITH THIS STAFF MEMBER AS WELL.
AND THE BOARD IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE KEEP THAT POSITION AS WELL AS SOME ADDITIONAL MATH SECTIONS FOR OUR RELUCTANT LEARNERS AT GUC HIGH SCHOOL.
SO, UH, ALL THOSE POSITIONS ARE ALIGNED WITHIN OUR FIRST GOAL AREA.
YOU CAN SEE IN SUMMARY, IN GOAL ONE, IT'S A BUDGET.
IT HAS $506,000 OF ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS IN THIS GOAL AREA.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S THE TOTAL OF 4.5 FTE IS SUPPORTING ALSO SOME OF THE NEEDS OF OUR CTE COURSES.
UH, SOME ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS JUST BECAUSE OF INFLATIONARY COSTS RELATED TO SUPPLIES AND SOFTWARE AND FIELD TRIPS, UH, APPROPRIATELY FUNDING OUR GRADUATION AND SOME OTHER THINGS RELATED TO OUR ADVANCED LEARNERS WHO ARE IN OUR ACA PROGRAM.
SO A TOTAL OF 500 GRAND THERE.
THE SECOND GOAL AREA, I'M GONNA SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME ON THIS BECAUSE AS I'VE SAID SO MANY TIMES TODAY, IT'S OUR PEOPLE WHO DO THE GREAT WORK OF THIS SCHOOL DIVISION AND THIS SCHOOL AREA DIRECTLY RELATES TO OUR EMPLOYEES.
YOU CAN SEE THE ARTICULATION OF THAT GOAL AREA ON THE SL SLIDE HERE, BUT THIS IS OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
UH, IN ADDITION TO THE PICTURES THAT I SHOWED OF OUR STUDENTS, THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT DO THE WORK.
AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE'RE VERY COMPLICATED AND COMPLEX ORGANIZATION WITH A WHOLE LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
UH, WE TRANSPORT THOUSAND STUDENTS EVERY DAY.
WE FEED OVER, YOU KNOW, 1500 STUDENTS EVERY DAY.
UH, WE, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE A SAFE, COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR STUDENTS EVERY DAY.
AND ALL ALONG WE'RE PROVIDING THEM WITH A HIGH LEVEL WORLD CLASS EDUCATION.
AND SO IT TAKES STAFF TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AS YOU'LL SEE LATER ON IN THIS BUDGET, 85% OF OUR BUDGET IS FOR THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS OF THESE DEDICATED AND TALENTED PROFESSIONALS WHO DO THE GREAT WORK OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO ULTIMATELY, IT'S OUR DESIRE AND OUR GOAL AND OUR TRUE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION AND TOTAL BENEFIT PACKAGE FOR THESE DEDICATED EMPLOYEES, DO SO MANY AMAZING THINGS FOR OUR STUDENTS AND OUR FAMILIES EACH AND EVERY DAY.
SO BOARD MEMBERS, AGAIN, WANTED TO SHARE SOME DATA WITH YOU.
UH, EACH YEAR IN DECEMBER, WE ANALYZE WHERE WE ARE FROM A SCHOOL DIVISION COMPETITIVE STANDPOINT.
THIS IS SPECIFICALLY OUR TEACHERS, AND WE RATE OURSELVES AGAINST THE SCHOOL DIVISIONS THAT YOU CAN SEE AT THE TOP.
AND YOU SEE IN PARENTHESES WHERE WE RANK IN RELATION TO OUR COMPETITIVE SCHOOL DIVISIONS AT THE FIVE YEAR BANS ON A 30 YEAR SALARY SCALE.
UH, AND YOU CAN SEE ULTIMATELY THAT WE ARE BELOW THE MEDIAN IN ALL FIVE BANDS IN COMPARED TO OUR COMPETITIVE SCHOOL DIVISIONS.
UH, WE ALSO LOOK AT WHERE WE RATE IN COMPARISON TO THE MEDIAN.
SO THE MEDIAN IS IN GRAY, WE ARE IN WHITE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT DIFFERENTIAL THERE IN DOLLAR FIGURES.
WE ARE MOST COMPETITIVE AT OUR STARTING SALARY WHEN IT COMES TO THE MEDIAN, BUT AS TIME GOES ON, WE REALLY DEPART FROM THE MEDIAN BASED ON THE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE FOR OUR STAFF.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THIS STEADILY OVER TIME.
AND EVEN WITH THE INVESTMENTS THIS COMMUNITY HAS MADE IN PUBLIC EDUCATION AND SALARIES
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FOR OUR EMPLOYEES, UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO COMPETE, UH, TO THE LEVEL THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO COMPETE.UH, JUST YOU'LL SEE IN A COUPLE SLIDES, GREEN MEANS THAT WE ARE ABOVE THE MEDIAN AT THOSE AREAS.
YELLOW MEANS THAT WE ARE AT THE MEDIAN IN GREENS, MEANS THAT WE ARE BELOW THE MEDIAN IN OUR MARKET.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT OVER TIME, WE'VE LOST COMPETITIVENESS IN THOSE FIVE YEAR BANDS, UH, SINCE 2017.
THIS IS FOR ALL OF OUR INSTRUCTIONAL PERSONNEL.
UH, WE DO HAVE SOME YELLOW AND SOME GREEN AT DIFFERENT LEVELS THERE, BUT IT IS MOSTLY RED, AS YOU CAN TELL.
AND THEN WE HAVE INVESTED IN THE PAST AND OUR CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES ARE PARAPROFESSIONALS, OUR CUSTODIANS AND CAFETERIA FOOD SERVICE STAFF.
AND SO WE'VE MADE A LITTLE BIT OF IMPROVEMENT HERE, MORE YELLOW AND GREEN ON THIS MATRIX THAN YOU WOULD SEE ON THE OTHERS.
BUT THERE'S STILL A FAIR AMOUNT OF RED, AS YOU CAN TELL.
WE ALL KNOW THAT INFLATION IS IMPACTING EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL IN THIS NATION.
UH, AND SO CERTAINLY OUR TEACHERS, OUR BUS DRIVERS, OUR CUSTODIANS, NOBODY IS IMMUNE FROM THAT.
AND SO OVER TIME, IF YOU LOOK AT STATEWIDE TEACHER SALARIES AND YOU FACTOR IN INFLATION, THE BUYING POWER OF MOSTLY EVERYBODY, BUT SPECIFICALLY TEACHERS, HAS DECREASED OVER TIME JUST WHEN YOU FACTOR IN INFLAMMATION.
AND SO I WANNA SPEND JUST A MOMENT ON THIS SLIDE SIMPLY BECAUSE AS A SCHOOL DIVISION, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HANG OUR HAT ON SOME FACTORS THAT HAVE MADE IT WORTH THE DRIVE FOR OUR TEACHERS TO, TO COME TO OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
UH, THERE HAVE BEEN FACTORS ABOUT OUR MINDSET OF GROWTH OVERACHIEVEMENT AND, AND THE AUTONOMY THAT WE PROVIDE IN SOME SETTINGS IN OUR CLASSES.
CLASS SIZES HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO OUR STAFF, THE TECHNOLOGY WE PROVIDE, THE BEST TECHNOLOGY THAT MONEY CAN BUY AND THE RESOURCES THAT WE PROVIDE.
THAT HAS BEEN OUR COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE IN THE PAST, AND IT'S BEEN WHAT HAS KEPT OUR GREAT STAFF HERE.
BUT THIS VICE IS BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS A GOOD SYMBOL OF WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AS SOME OF THOSE EXTERNAL FACTORS AROUND US ARE REALLY PUTTING SOME PRESSURES ON THOSE KEY INGREDIENTS THAT HAVE KEPT US SO SUCCESSFUL.
THINGS LIKE INCENTIVES AND OTHER SCHOOL DIVISIONS, AN 8.2% RAISE IN HENRICO, UM, GAS PRICES, INFLATIONARY PRESSURES, UH, LACK OF HOUSING IN SOME MARKETS.
ALL THOSE THINGS ARE PUTTING PRESSURES ON OUR WORKFORCE.
AND WITH A HIGHLY DEDICATED AND TALENTED WORKFORCE, OUR FOLKS CAN GO ANYWHERE THEY WANT AND GET A JOB.
NOW WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WITH A COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION PACKAGE AND DOUBLING DOWN ON SOME OF THOSE OTHER FACTORS, WE CAN KEEP PEOPLE HERE, BUT IT'S GOING TO BECOME MORE AND MORE CHALLENGING AS THINGS EVOLVE IN THE WORLD AROUND US.
SO, UM, ALL THOSE COMPETING FACTORS ARE CERTAINLY IMPACTING EVERY EMPLOYMENT GROUP.
AND OUR TEACHERS AND OTHER EMPLOYEES ARE, ARE, ARE NOT ALONE.
SO THIS BUDGET, LIKE THE COUNTY'S BUDGET, DOES INCLUDE A 5% RAISE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.
UH, OUR EMPLOYEES WHO EARN A PROFICIENT OR EXEMPLARY RATING IF THIS BUDGET IS APPROVED WOULD EARN A 5% RAISE.
OUR EMPLOYEES WHO WERE RATED AS NEEDS IMPROVEMENT OR UNSATISFACTORY WOULD NOT BE THE BENEFICIARY OF THAT RAISE BECAUSE THEY DID NOT EARN IT.
BUT IT DOES INCLUDE A 5% RAISE.
AND WE HAVE MODIFIED OUR HEALTH INSURANCE STRUCTURE SLIGHTLY.
UH, LIKE THE COUNTY, WE ARE EXPERIENCING THE SAME INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS THAT YOU ARE.
BUT IN ORDER TO BALANCE THIS BUDGET, UH, WE HAD TO MAKE SOME STRATEGIC DECISIONS RELATED TO HEALTH INSURANCE.
AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE OUR EMPLOYEES TO MOVE TOWARD THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE, UH, HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN.
ULTIMATELY, IT IS AN EMPLOYEE'S CHOICE.
THEY HAVE TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THEIR FAMILY.
BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THE FAR RIGHT RED BOX THAT THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO CHOOSE THE HIGH DEDUCTIBLE PLAN WOULD NOT RECEIVE ANY INCREASE IN THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS. IN THAT MAKE, IN THAT SECTION, WE WOULD ABSORB THE COST OF THE PREMIUM AT THE $500 DEDUCTIBLE LEVEL.
UH, THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS DECIDED TO DO SOME COST SHARING THERE, WHERE THE SCHOOL DIVISION WOULD PICK UP 50% OF THAT INCREASE AND THE EMPLOYEE WOULD PICK UP 50% OF THE INCREASE.
AND THEN FOLKS AT THE TWO 50, THE SCHOOL BOARD HAS DECIDED THAT 25% OF THE INCREASE WOULD BE PICKED UP BY THE SCHOOL DIVISION AND 75% BY THE EMPLOYEE.
UM, SO ULTIMATELY THIS IS A PERSONAL CHOICE FOR OUR, BY OUR EMPLOYEES, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO DO IN ORDER TO MAKE THE BUDGET BALANCE AND, UH, PROVIDE SOME OPTIONS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES WITHIN THIS SCHOOL AREA.
THE BUDGET ALSO INCLUDES A SCHOOL SOCIAL WORKER WHO'S DOING SOME AMAZING WORK TO ENGAGE OUR FAMILIES AND, AND TO BUILD STRONGER CONNECTIONS AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH FAMILIES.
SO IT INCLUDES THAT POSITION AS WELL AS RETAINING THE SCHOOL COUNSELOR POSITION THAT WAS GRANT FUNDED AT RANDOLPH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AS WELL AS THE DEAN OF STUDENTS POSITION.
THAT WAS GRANT FUNDED IN THE PAST.
IT INCLUDES THAT POSITION WILL ALLOW US TO CONTINUE OUR GREAT WORK THAT WE'RE DOING FROM AN INSTRUCTIONAL STANDPOINT AT GUC LAND MIDDLE SCHOOL.
SO AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WITH ALL THE PERSONNEL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS GOAL AREA, THIS IS WHERE WE SEE THE MOST, UH, EXPENSIVE, UH, ASK.
AND THAT'S $1.8 MILLION IN NEW MONEY, A TOTAL OF THREE FTES.
YOU CAN SEE THAT 5% SALARY INCREASES $1.2 MILLION, $216,000 FOR HEALTH INSURANCE, AS WELL AS SOME INITIATIVES FOR
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RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT, AS WELL AS SUPPORTING OUR TEACHERS THROUGH MENTORING AND THEN WORKING TO ENHANCE OUR COMMUNICATION WITH FAMILIES AND COMMUNITY.SO THE LAST SCHOOL AREA IS RELATED TO FACILITIES, RESOURCES AND TECHNOLOGY.
AND JUST IN SUMMARY, $352,000 IN NEW MONEY HERE.
MOST OF THAT IS FOR FUEL COSTS, AS WELL AS SOME INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENTS FOR OUR FOOD SERVICE PROGRAM.
UM, SO THAT IS WHERE MOST OF THOSE DOLLARS ARE SPENT IN THAT GOAL AREA.
SO AS A SCHOOL DIVISION, WE CALL THIS STRATEGIC ABANDONMENT.
AS I SAID, WE SCRUB EACH AND EVERY BUDGET LINE AND WE ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR, IS, IS THAT EXPENDITURE REALLY RETURNING THE INVESTMENT THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE OUR MISSION AND VISION AND CORE GOALS? AND SO WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS EVERY YEAR.
AND AS A SCHOOL DIVISION, YOU KNOW, INITIALLY YOU KIND OF KIND OF GET THE LOW HANGING FRUIT, BUT WE'VE REALLY RULED UP OUR SLEEVES AND WE FOUND SOME OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN USE SOME FINANCIAL RESOURCES DIFFERENTLY.
AND SO THIS BUDGET INCLUDES A REDUCTION OF TWO FULL-TIME FTES AS WELL AS A COUPLE OTHER PART-TIME FTES THAT YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THE MIDDLE FTE COLUMN.
UH, IT TAKES A LOOK AT SOME OF OUR SOFTWARE PROGRAMS THAT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO ABANDON IN THE FUTURE, AS WELL AS SOME SAVINGS FOR OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAM, AND THEN SOME OTHER TESTING PROGRAMS AND CON CONSULTING FEES.
SO YOU CAN SEE, ALL IN ALL, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO STRATEGICALLY ABANDON OR REDUCE THIS BUDGET BY $427,000 IN ORDER TO MAKE IT.
SO IN SUMMARY, UH, ALL IN ALL, THIS BUDGET INCLUDES AN INCREASE OF $104,451, WHICH IS A THREE TENTHS OF PERCENT INCREASE IN LAST YEAR'S TO TOTAL BUDGETED INVESTMENTS TOTAL OF $40.6 MILLION.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE FTE CHANGES HAVE HAPPENED THERE.
UH, WE DID EXPERIENCE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN FEDERAL REVENUE, AND THAT'S THE GRANT DOLLARS THAT HAVE EXPIRED.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHERE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES ARE IN EACH CORE AREA BASED ON LOCAL AND STATE REVENUE, AS WELL AS SOME OF THOSE FEDERAL RESOURCES.
SO JUST A THREE TENTHS OF A PERCENT INCREASE, 78 CENTS ON EVERY DOLLAR IS DEDICATED TO INSTRUCTION AND TECHNOLOGY TO SUPPORT OUR INSTRUCTIONAL GOALS.
SO THE MONEY IS GOING TO THE CLASSROOM TO SUPPORT OUR CORE INSTRUCTIONAL OBJECTIVES.
AND THEN, AS I SAID BEFORE THIS, UH, WE ARE A PEOPLE HEAVY BUSINESS.
IT IS OUR PEOPLE WHO DO THE GREAT WORK OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO 84 CENTS ON EVERY DOLLAR GOES TO SUPPORT THE SALARY AND BENEFITS OF OUR HIGHLY DEDICATED AND TALENTED EMPLOYEES.
SO 84% IS FOR SALARY AND BENEFITS.
SO THAT'S ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE FUND THESE RESOURCES? AND THIS BUDGET IS BASED OFF OF GOVERNOR YOUNGIN'S BUDGET IN DECEMBER.
UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS A HOUSE VERSION, A SENATE VERSION.
NOW THEY GOT THE SKINNY BUDGET.
ULTIMATELY, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FINAL VERSION IS GOING TO BE.
IF THERE ARE ADJUSTMENTS THAT COME OUT OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY, WE DON'T SEE THEM AS BEING SIGNIFICANT.
SO THIS IS A TIME WHEN IT'S A GOOD THING TO HAVE A 0.8 COMPOSITE INDEX.
UH, WE DON'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGES IN THE STATE THAT ARE GOING TO IMPACT THE BOTTOM LINE ON THIS.
UH, THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN INCREASE IN STATE AID BUILT INTO THIS SIX TENTHS OF PERCENT INCREASE IN STATE SALES TAX.
AND YOU CAN SEE A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION IN FEDERAL WADE.
AND THIS IS THE FUNDING CLIFF THAT WE WERE ALL PREPARING FOR IN PAST BUDGETS.
THIS SHOWS OVER TIME THE DISTRIBUTION OF STATE SALES TAX IN BLUE AS WELL AS OTHER STATE REVENUE.
AND THERE IS A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE THERE IN ORANGE BASED ON STATE BASIC AID.
AND THIS BOARD HAS HISTORICALLY SUPPORTED US TO A GREAT EXTENT AND I'M THANKFUL FOR ALL OF THAT.
UM, YOU, YOU, YOU SUPPORT US VERY, VERY WELL.
UH, THIS COMMITTEE, THIS COMMUNITY HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC EDUCATION AND I AM PROUD OF THE RETURNS THAT WE ARE PROVIDING ON THAT INVESTMENT.
THIS, THIS BUDGET DOES INCLUDE AN INVESTMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL 1.251 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL COUNTY TRANSFER FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
AND THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT IS, UH, STILL A SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT WHERE 68% OF OUR BUDGET COMES DIRECTLY FROM THE LOCAL TAXPAYERS HERE IN GOLAND FROM YOUR TRANSFER TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT.
UM, HERE'S A DISTRIBUTION OF THAT BASED ON COUNTY TRANSFER STATE, FEDERAL AND LOCAL DOLLARS.
YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THE FEDERAL DOLLARS HAVE DECREASED SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, BUT THAT'S AN OVERALL DISTRIBUTION OVER TIMES.
IT'S BASED ON TOTAL REVENUE AND AGAIN, BOARD MEMBERS.
I'M PROUD TO PRESENT A BALANCED BUDGET FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND IT IS $104,451 GREATER NEXT YEAR THAN IT IS DURING THE CURRENT YEAR.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE DISTRIBUTION OF THOSE RESOURCES BASED ON DIFFERENT FUNDING STREAMS. UM, AS I SAID EARLIER, THIS IS A NEEDS-BASED BUDGET AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FUND IN THIS RECOMMENDATION TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND SO WE TYPICALLY TEAR THESE OUT BASED ON PRIORITY.
THIS IS OUR FIRST LEVEL OF PRIORITY.
IF WE ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL REVENUE, UH, WE WOULD WANT TO PUT THREE ADDITIONAL INTERVENTIONISTS BACK
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INTO OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS JUST BECAUSE WE SEE THE SIGNIFICANT VALUE IN THAT.SOME OTHER TIER TWO RESOURCES THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FUND, AGAIN, THESE FALL A LITTLE BIT LOWER ON THE PRIORITY LEVEL.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE HAVE REQUESTS THAT CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY AND CAME FROM OUR SCHOOLS THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FUND THAT ARE PROBABLY SOMETHING WE'LL SEE IN FUTURE YEARS, BUT JUST DON'T MEET THE NEED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY, ONE TIME COSTS.
IF IN FACT WE HAVE A FUND BALANCE AT THE END OF THE YEAR, UH, THESE MAY BE THINGS THAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY UTILIZE ONE TIME EXPENSES FOR.
UH, WE HAVE A LIST OF THOSE THINGS AS WELL.
SO I'LL PAUSE THERE FOR A MOMENT.
BOARD MEMBERS, THAT WAS A LOT RELATED TO OPERATIONS.
BEFORE WE GET INTO CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT, ANY QUESTIONS OR CLARITY THAT YOU MAY NEED? I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO REALLY BOARD ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.
MR. LUKINS? YES, A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, AND SO THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR STAFF AND THE SCHOOL BOARD TOO FOR DIGGING IN.
JUST IN THE BEGINNING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME INCREASES AND PERCENTAGES THAT THREW ME OFF, BUT LATER IN YOUR, AND BY THE WAY, YOU ANSWERED I WAS SCRIBBLING QUESTIONS I HAD, BUT YOU, YOU COVERED MOST EVERYTHING AS YOU AS YOU GOT INTO IT.
BUT, BUT, UM, ON THE, ON THE OPERATING CHANGES, THE COUNTY IS, UM, YOUR OVERALL OPERATING BUDGET IS, IS INCREASING BY 5.9%.
UH, THE OVERALL OPERATING BUDGET IS ONLY INCREASING BY THREE TENTHS OF A PERCENT.
THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID IN THE BEGINNING.
SO, SO WHY, SO IN OUR SLIDE, IN OUR, IN OUR PACKET THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD THAT WE HAD, THAT I REVIEWED BEFORE THE MEETING ON PACKET PAGE 90.
IT, IT'S DATED IN THE, THE FOOTER IS DATED 2 1 20 23.
AND SO WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO YOU AND I WAS LOOKING AT OUR PACKET, I STARTED THINKING, MAYBE THIS IS NOT CURRENT, BUT THEN I WENT TO YOUR BUDGET BOOK AND THE NUMBERS DO LOOK LIKE THEY'RE THE SAME.
HAS THE BUDGET CHANGED A LOT SINCE FEBRUARY 1ST? NO, SIR.
IT HASN'T CHANGED MU MUCH AT ALL.
UH, WITHOUT KNOWING THE MATH, THE LOCAL TRANSFER, MAYBE 5.9% INCREASE, POTENTIALLY? NO.
WELL, THE LOCAL TRANSFER, UM, COUNTY TRANSFERS INCREASED 4.9 ACCORDING TO, LET ME JUST STICK TO THE PACKET THAT WE HAVE CUZ THAT'S WHERE I HAVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL.
SO THE PACKET THAT WE HAVE ON PAGE 90 SAYS THE COUNTY TRANSFERS INCREASED 4.9%.
THE OVERALL TOTAL TRANSFER, THE TOTAL SCHOOL OPERATING FUND IS 5.9% INCREASE.
NOW THAT INCREASE, I THINK I'M GATHERING IT'S FROM AMENDED 2023 TO PROPOSED FY 2024.
AND THEN THERE'S, SO, SO I, I NEED YOU TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
THAT, THAT THIS OP THIS DIFFERENT INCREASE BECAUSE THE SCHOOL OPERATING FUND AND THE REST OF THE THINGS LIKE THE TEXTBOOK FUND, UM, OTHER REVENUE FUNDING SCHOOL CAFETERIA FUND, I MEAN THEY ALL IN THE, MAYBE IT'S ALL IN THE GRANT FUNDS.
IS IT THE GRANT FUNDS? THAT TOTALLY THROWS THIS OFF.
SO, UM, IT TAKES ALL THE FUNDS TO RUN THE SCHOOL.
SO THE OPERATING FUND DID GO UP BY 5.9% BECAUSE WE PICKED UP ALL THE LOSS OF THE FEDERAL FUND AT THE BOTTOM, WHICH IS A NEGATIVE 52%.
SO THE SCHOOL FEDERAL GRANTS FUNDS THAT SIGNIFICANT DROP IS WHAT GETS YOU YEAH.
TO THAT TOTAL OF ALL FUNDS NUMBER THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO THERE'S OPERATIONS, FOOD SERVICE, AND THEN FEDERAL GRANTS OPERATIONS WAS, WAS THE INCREASE WITH A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN FEDERAL.
THAT'S WHERE YOU GET TO A, SO THE $2 MILLION DECREASE IN FEDERAL.
SO I KNOW YOU SAY IT TAKES ALL THE MONEY TO RUN THE SCHOOLS.
WHAT DID THE FEDERAL GRANTS COVER? THE FEDERAL INSTRUCTIONAL A HUNDRED PERCENT INSTRUCTIONAL.
THE, THE FEDERAL GRANTS ARE ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE RECEIVED THROUGH THE COVID YEARS.
AND MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WERE, UH, STRATEGICALLY ABANDONED WERE FUNDED WITH, WITH COVID FUNDS.
SOME OF THEM INCLUDED IN THIS REQUEST WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE CONTINUE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT FUNDING CLIFF HAS HAPPENED.
THE, THE EXPIRATION DATE FOR ALL OF THAT IS WE, WE SPENT THOSE FUNDS AND SO NOW WE'RE MAKING THAT TRANSITION FROM, FROM THE USE OF THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS TO NOW OTHER MORE SUSTAINABLE RESOURCES.
AND I DO SEE, I SEE WHERE I SEE THE BOTTOM LINE NUMBER.
I, AS I GOT, I WAS LOOKING AT TEXTBOOK AND SPECIAL REVENUE AND CAFETERIA AND I WAS LIKE, WELL THOSE DON'T IMPACT THIS THAT MUCH.
BUT THEN THERE'S THE ONE AT THE VERY BOTTOM.
BUT, BUT, SO THE COUNTY'S TRANSFERS ARE NEARLY 5% AN INCREASE.
THE COUNTY'S CONTRIBUTING NEARLY FIVE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE, SO Q STATE S O Q REVENUE JUMP OF IT'S A 16.6%.
IS THAT BASED ON ENROLLMENT OR WHAT ELSE IS GOING ON WITH, WITH THE SOQ REVENUES? JUST, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS BECAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS A SORE POINT WITH THE SOQ.
SO IT'S AN INTERESTING TRANSITION THAT THE STATE'S MAKING.
SO WE HAD THAT SALES TAX REVENUE, WE GOT $600,000
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FOR NEXT YEAR FOR THE GROCERY TAX HOLD HARMLESS.SO IT'S ACTUALLY THE, THE TAX HAS HAS DROPPED.
IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY LEVEL FOR US THAT THE, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRA TAX REVENUE, IT'S IT'S LEVEL OVER THE TWO YEARS, IT WOULD'VE THAT WE WOULD'VE HAD A $600,000 JUMP IN TAX IF WE HAD, UM, IN, IN THE TAX AND NOT IN THE SO Q BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PLUGGING THE GAP FOR US.
AND IT'S CALLED, SO Q FUNDING, IT'S NO LONGER CALLED TAX FUNDING.
I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, EXCEPT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, WHY, WHY DID THE, WHY DID THE TAX REVENUES DROP THE, THE STATE, THE STATE PLAYS A A LITTLE BIT OF AN, AND THEY MAKE AN ADJUSTMENT THAT IF YOU GET A, AN INCREASE IN STATE SALES TAX REVENUE, THAT THEY DROPPED YOUR BASIC AID.
AND THEN IT WAS COMPLICATED THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF THIS GROCERY TAX HOLD HARMLESS THAT THEY WANTED TO KEEP SCHOOL DIVISIONS WHOLE AND THEY PLUGGED IT INTO THE SOQ CATEGORY JUST FOR CATEGORIZATION.
UM, GLAD YOU'RE DOING THIS STUFF BECAUSE, BECAUSE IT'S BECAUSE THEY GOT RID OF THE GROCERY TAX AND SO AND SO THEY, THEY TRIED TO PROTECT US.
THEY, AND, AND SO THEY'RE USING S SO Q Q FUNDING SOME SOMETHING OTHER THAN SALES TAX TO PAY FOR THAT $600,000.
UH, SO, SO OTHER FOLKS HAVE TIME.
I'LL JUST TAKE A FEW MORE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.
UM, AND YOU ANSWERED THE, I WAS ASKING ABOUT HOW ARE WE HOLDING UP ON RAISES, CUZ YOU SAID IN DECEMBER YOU DO A COMPARISON AND THAT CHART YOU SHOWED THIS WAS DECEMBER NUMBERS CORRECT? WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT HENRICO EIGHT, I THINK YOU SAID HENRICO 8% OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
IS THAT WHAT'S COMING OR IS THAT IN THE DECEMBER SLIDE? SO THE DECEMBER IS BASED OFF OF 2022, 2023 NUMBERS.
WHAT YOU SAW IN THE PRESENTATION, THAT WAS AS OF DECEMBER OF 2022.
OF COURSE, EVERY SCHOOL DIVISION, EVERY LOCALITY IS CONSIDERING THEIR BUDGET.
AS WE KNOW, HENRICO JUST ANNOUNCED A PROPOSED 8.2 HASN'T BEEN FINALIZED BY THEIR LOCAL, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
BUT YOU KNOW THAT WHAT'S ALL THE DOING? I MEAN, WE'RE DOING FIVE, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING YOU, YOUR BUDGET, YOU'RE BRINGING THIS A BUDGET WITH A 5% ACROSS THE BOARD? YES.
IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCALITY.
UH, THERE HAS BEEN SOME CONVERSATION IN GENERAL ASSEMBLY ABOUT A 7% RAISE FOR EMPLOYEES.
UH, THERE MAY BE SCHOOL DIVISIONS THAT TRY TO GET THERE, QUITE HONESTLY.
UH, BUT FOR US, AS WE KNOW, THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS EASILY DONE IN OUR COMMUNITY SIMPLY BECAUSE OF OUR COMPOSITE INDEX AND, UH, THE STANDARDS OF QUALITY WHERE ANY SORT OF, UH, RAISE THIS COMMUNITY ABSORBS 87% OF THE COST WHERE THE STATE PICKS UP 13% OF THE COST.
SO IT'S DOES CREATE SOME CHALLENGES.
YOUR 5% RAISE FOR BUDGETING, YOU TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT GET IT AND FOLKS THAT DON'T GET IT.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CASE.
BUT FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES, YES.
YOUR, IT LOOKED, I JUMPED OVER TO YOUR BUDGET BOOK AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR, YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE, WHICH YOU TALKED ABOUT, WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH, THE HEALTH INSURANCE, YOU'RE STILL PLUGGING IN AN 11% INCREASE.
YOU'RE STILL BASING THAT ON AN 11% HEALTH INSURANCE INCREASE.
THIS BUDGET INCLUDES AN 11% INCREASE.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THE SCHOOL BOARD NEXT TUESDAY, UH, WITH A MINOR ADJUSTMENT BASED ON WHAT WE'RE LEARNING FROM OUR CONSULTANTS.
BUT THIS BUDGET INCLUDES AN 11% INCREASE.
AND I HAVEN'T ASKED OUR COUNTY SIDE, BUT IS IT COMING IN CLOSER TO WHAT WE'RE THINKING, LIKE THE NINE, I THINK I WAS TOLD 9.9% POTENTIALLY.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE DID, JOHN WAS, UH, MR. LUMPKINS WAS WE, UM, WE SHARED THAT 1% SAVINGS WITH OUR EMPLOYEES.
SO IT ACTUALLY PUTS ABOUT $20,000 SCATTERED THROUGH OUR BUDGET, THE OUR OUR PART OF IT.
SO YOU'RE STILL, YOU'RE STILL GONNA DO THE, WHAT YOU PROPOSED FOR, FOR THE ADJUSTMENTS WITH THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK INCENTIVIZING THE HSA COMPONENT, I WOULD SAY INCENTIVIZING THE HSA, BUT WHAT MIGHT BE ARTICULATED DIFFERENTLY.
LAST, I THINK YOU COVERED YOUR ENROLLMENT NUMBERS.
I DID SEE, AND I WAS GONNA ASK YOU, AND I THINK I DO THIS EVERY YEAR, LIKE WHERE ARE YOUR CHALLENGES AREAS? WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT SPECIAL ED, I SAW SPED CONTRACTUAL SERVICES DROPPED QUITE A BIT.
AND THAT LOOKED LIKE IN ONE OF YOUR STRATEGIC ABANDONMENT.
SO THAT WAS JUST GONNA ASK ABOUT THAT AND THEN JUST SAY IN GENERAL, WHERE, WHERE ARE YOUR CHALLENGES THAT LIE AHEAD IN YOUR INSTRUCTIONAL SIDE OF THINGS? YEAH, THAT SPECIFIC SITUATION, WE HAD A STUDENT THAT WAS THE RECIPIENT OF SOME, UH, PRETTY IN DEPTH SERVICES.
AND SO THAT STUDENT HAS GRADUATED, SO WE DON'T NEED TO CONTINUE THAT CONTRACT.
SO I GIVE MYSELF CREDIT FOR STRATEGIC ABANDONMENT, BUT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF GRADUATION
UH, I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT OUR CONTINUED NEED IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE CAN HIRE THE BEST, RETAIN THE BEST, AND TRAIN THE BEST.
AND SO WITH THE CON, IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO DO THE WORK.
IT'S, AND, AND SO GIVEN ALL THE PUSHES AND PULLS AND TENSIONS THAT ARE IN A WORKFORCE, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE, HOW CAN WE CONTINUE TO KEEP THE BEST? AND, UH, WE TALKED TODAY AS A STAFF THAT YES, WE'RE PROPOSING A A 5% INCREASE, BUT WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT WE AS LEADERS CAN DO TO DOUBLE DOWN
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ON PROVIDING SOME THINGS THAT DON'T HAVE A COST IMPACT? YOU KNOW, IS IT TIME, IS IT OTHER EXPERIENCES? THE SUPPORT THAT WE PROVIDE? THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT THAT REALLY WE JUST HAVE TO THINK DIFFERENTLY ABOUT GIVEN SOME OF THOSE CHALLENGES.ARE YOU STILL LOOKING AT, WHEN I WAS ON SCHOOL BOARD, WE WERE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT LIKE CAREER LADDERS AND CAREER DEVELOPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IS THAT, THAT'S PROBABLY ALWAYS IN WORKS.
RIGHT? SLOW AND STEADY CAREER LADDER DEVELOPMENT, ONESIES, TWOSIES HERE OR THERE.
WE JUST MOVED THE POSITION INTO A 12 MONTH POSITION FOR CAREER LADDER.
AND SO THAT'S GONNA HELP US KEEP SOME TALENT AROUND.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING THEN FOR THE PRESENTATION.
SO I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
UM, THE INTERVENTIONIST, I CAN SEE WHERE YOU'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT PART OF, OF YOUR PROGRAM.
PRIMARILY ARE K THROUGH TWO STUDENTS BECAUSE WE OKAY.
THAT'S WHY WE USE THE, THE, THE MAP DATA AS WELL AS THE PALS DATA, WHICH IS NOT AN SOL METRIC.
UH, TO SAY THIS IS HOW WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRIBUTE THEIR WORK TOWARDS STUDENT SUCCESS.
AND SO DO YOU TRACK METRICS SO YOU ACTUALLY CAN SEE THAT WE'RE LOOKING LONGITUDINALLY, LIKE THIS STUDENT HAS HAD AN INTERVENTIONIST KINDERGARTEN, FIRST GRADE, NOW WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO AT THE END OF THE SECOND GRADE SO WE CAN SEE HOW THEY'VE GROWN OVER TIME? SO YES, WE'RE TRACKING THOSE STUDENTS OVER TIME LONGITUDINALLY.
CAN I, BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT PART OF MY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT SURE.
THIS WE'RE LOOKING FOR CLARIFICATION.
THE IREAL INTERVENTIONALIST ROLE, HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN IN EXISTENCE? JUST TWO YEARS.
IT IS A GRANT FUNDED POSITION.
IT IS THE POSITION THAT WE INSTITUTED USING, UH, ALL THOSE FEDERAL FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC, RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAD STUDENTS WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT GAPS IN WHAT WE'RE SEEING WITH THOSE RESOURCES THAT WE'RE CLOSING THOSE GAPS AND, UM, ULTIMATELY, UH, PULL ME THREE OF THOSE AWAY.
SO THAT'S SORT OF WHERE, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT PROMPTED THE QUESTION.
CAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT, WELL, YEAH, THIS IS TO, TO TO CATCH UP FROM THE COVID MM-HMM.
SO IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT WE'RE COMING BACK TO ADD TO MORE OF THAT PROGRAM.
IF, IF THAT COVID IS GOING AWAY, THEN YEAH.
THE POSITIONS WE, I KIND OF THOUGHT WE THOUGHT THEY WOULD AS WELL.
THERE WAS A NEED FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC, QUITE HONESTLY.
WE HAD STUDENTS THAT WERE UNSUCCESSFUL IN SCHOOL AND IF WE COULD HAVE PROVIDED SOME, AN INTENSE INTERVENTION, THOSE STUDENTS WOULD'VE BEEN MORE SUCCESSFUL PRIOR TO THE PANDEMIC.
AND IT WAS JUST EXACERBATED BY THE PANDEMIC.
UH, ULTIMATELY, AS YOU CAN TELL ON OUR BUDGET, WE STRATEGICALLY ABANDONED POSITIONS THAT WE MAY NOT NEED.
AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET TO THE POINT IN TIME WHERE EVERY KID'S READING ON GRADE LEVEL AND, AND SUCCESSFUL ACADEMICALLY AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, ABANDON THOSE POSITIONS.
BUT FOR NOW, WE STILL FEEL THAT WE NEED FOUR OF THEM.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME INTERRUPT YOUR QUESTIONING, MS. LUCOT.
WELL YOU'RE SWERVING INTO MY NEXT QUESTION ANYWAY.
SO THIS IS ALWAYS A CONCERN, WHETHER IT'S A COUNTY ISSUE OR A SCHOOL ISSUE, IS ACCEPTING A GRANT FOR POSITION MM-HMM.
IT'S, YOU FUND, THEY FUND FOR TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS AND THEN WE HAVE IT FOREVER.
SO HOW ARE YOU MANAGING THAT? LIKE DEAN OF STUDENTS? I MEAN, DO WE REALLY NEED THAT POSITION? YEAH.
WE, WE BELIEVE THAT WE DO NEED THAT.
I'M NOT GONNA PICK ON THAT ONE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S ONE OF THEM.
THERE ARE POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED THAT HAVE BEEN GRANT FUNDED.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD A SUBSTITUTE TEACHER IN EVERY SCHOOL THAT WAS CALLED A PERMANENT SUBSTITUTE THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET.
UH, WE HAD OTHER POSITIONS OKAY.
UH, THAT WERE GRANT FUNDED THAT WE REALIZED WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO FUND THOSE POSITIONS.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES AND WE'VE HAD THE PRIORITIZE IN TRIAGE.
SO THERE, ALL OF THE GRANT FUNDED POSITIONS ARE NOT INCLUDED.
WE'VE HAD, WE'VE MADE CUTS AND OUR SEVERAL FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN TOLD, LOOK, THE GRANT'S DRYING UP, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A POSITION NEXT YEAR.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO APPLY FOR OTHER POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE.
AND SO, UH, THERE ARE MULTIPLE EXAMPLES OF THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
UM, CUZ I JUST, IT'S JUST ASSUMED THAT POSITION'S GONNA CONTINUE ON FOREVER.
AND NOW IT'S NO LONGER FUNDED BY, YOU KNOW, FEDERAL OR STATE GOVERNMENT.
SO THE NEXT QUESTION THAT I HAVE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. CHAIR, IS, UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STUDENTS WHO GET THE, UH, COLLEGE CREDITS MM-HMM.
AND I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK AT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND OTHER PLACES ABOUT TRANSFERRING THOSE CREDITS.
WERE THEY ABLE, CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY TELL US, ARE THEY ABLE TO TRANSFER THEM LIKE WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO? OR IS THERE STILL MORE WORK TO BE DONE? YEAH, I'LL TELL YOU, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE SUCCESS STORIES OF FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TRANSFER.
I'LL TELL YOU IN MY FAMILY, MY DAUGHTER GRADUATED FROM GLAND HIGH SCHOOL IN 2021.
SHE ENROLLED IN VIRGINIA TECH AND SHE'S GONNA GRADUATE IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS BECAUSE SHE TOOK 60 CREDITS TO VIRGINIA TECH.
AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE STORIES OF KIDS, UH, WHO,
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WHO HAVE DONE THAT.AND SO FOR THEIR FAMILIES, IT SAVES THEM ALL.
THAT FOUR YEAR INSTITUTION, OF COURSE MONEY OF COURSE GIVES 'EM A CHANCE TO BE A, A WAGE EARNER RIGHT OFF, YOU KNOW, A LOT QUICKER.
UM, WE ARE INCREASING THE TUITION FOR THOSE FAMILIES FROM $45 TO $60.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE INVESTMENT ON BEHALF OF OUR FAMILIES BECAUSE OF RISING TUITION COSTS BEING CHARGED TO US OR PASSING THAT ON TO OUR, OUR TO OUR FAMILIES.
BUT ULTIMATELY THE REASON YOU'RE, SEE, IF YOU LOOK AT ONE OF THOSE GRASS OR ACA NUMBERS CONTINUE TO RISE, THAT'S BECAUSE THE STORY IS OUT AND OUR FAMILIES ARE LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE GONNA BE A PART OF ACA BECAUSE OF THE BENEFIT.
AND SO THAT'S CREATING SOME OF THOSE STRAINS ON OUR SECONDARY SCIENCE STAFFING.
UH, BUT MY QUESTION IS ARE THEY ABLE TO TRANSFER ALL THOSE CREDITS TO ANY STATE SCHOOL? YEAH.
SO I MEAN, I THOUGHT THERE WAS AN ISSUE THERE THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO YEAH.
MR. VADER'S, UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA IS NOT AS KIND TO OUR AC STUDENTS AS SOME OF THE OTHER INSTITUTIONS.
A LOT, LOT OF IT, A LOT OF IT IS, IS, IS IS DEPENDENT ON THE SCHOOL.
LIKE IF YOU TRANSFER TO UVA, YOU MIGHT GET ELECTIVE CREDIT, BUT IT MIGHT NOT GO TOWARDS YOUR MAJOR, BUT LIKE A VIRGINIA TECH OKAY.
A VCU, UM, SOME OF THOSE OTHER INSTITUTIONS LIKE YEAH, YOU'RE GONNA TRANSFER 60 63 CREDITS.
UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND PRIVATE SCHOOL, THEY MAY TREAT IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
BUT 90% OF THE FOUR YEAR INSTITUTIONS ARE ACCEPTING THOSE CREDITS.
THE STATE SCHOOLS CREDIT FOR CREDIT.
THAT, THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I'M WANTING TO HEAR.
STEVE, YOU MISS LASETTE MR. PETERSON? YES.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
I KNOW AN AWFUL LOT OF HARD WORK GOES INTO THIS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU DO CUZ OUR SCHOOLS ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND YOU NOTED THAT THIS BOARD DOES SUPPORT THE SCHOOLS IN A BIG WAY BECAUSE THE CHILDREN ARE OUR FUTURE AND WE INVEST IN THEM, WE INVEST IN OUR FUTURE AND WE ALSO ARE AWARE CITIZENS ARE AWARE OF THE LOOSE CORRELATION BETWEEN QUALITY SCHOOLS AND THE PRICE OF THEIR HOMES.
SO THERE'S THAT TO GO AS WELL.
UM, IF I COULD JUST, UM, I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE AROUND PAGE 88.
THE, THE NUMBERS AREN'T, PAGES AREN'T NUMBERED, BUT IT'S THE REGIONAL TEACHER SALARY COMPARISONS.
AND I DON'T WANNA LOSE THAT PICTURE.
YOU LOOK SO GREAT IN A HARD HAT.
I NOTICED YOU DIDN'T NEED TO BRING YOUR HARD HAT TO THIS MEETING.
SO I MUST SAY SOMETHING, BUT, UH, I THINK IT'S PAGE 88.
IT'S THE REGIONAL TEACHERS COMPARISON.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PULL THAT UP FOR THE BROADER GROUP HERE OR NOT.
UM, YEAH, THERE'S SEVERAL, THERE'S SEVERAL COMPARISONS.
MAYBE GO BACK TO THE FIRST COMPARISON SLIDE FIRST AND ALL VERY QUICKLY GO THROUGH SOME OF THE OTHER ONES.
UM, IF I JUST EYEBALL THIS, YOU CAN SEE THAT RICHMOND AND, AND HENRICO, UH, OCCUPY THE FIRST AND SECOND SPACE PRETTY MUCH UP AND DOWN THAT WHOLE, UH, LIST.
AND, AND SO I GUESS WE'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE'RE A DIRECT COMPETITOR OF RICHMOND SCHOOLS FOR, UH, TEACHERS AND, AND, AND WORKERS AND WHATNOT.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, I GUESS THERE'S FOUR SMALL ONE CHESTERFIELD AND THEN TWO LARGE.
I MEAN IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SIMILAR SIZE COUNTIES, YOU GET A LITTLE DIFFERENT ANSWER MM-HMM.
AND I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DON'T COMPETE WITH THEM.
I'M, AND IN FACT, UM, IT'D BE INTERESTING FOR ME TO SEE FOR THESE REGIONAL COMPETITORS, IF YOU WILL, THE TRANSFERS OUT AND TRANSFERS IN FROM EACH OF THESE TO SEE ARE WE REALLY COMPETING WITH 'EM OR NOT.
IF WE HAVE SIX TEACHERS THAT LEAVE RICHMOND AND COME TO GLAND AND KNOW NOBODY GOES FROM GIN TO RICHMOND, THAT MIGHT TELL ME A LITTLE DIFFERENT STORY THAN IF THEY'RE, THEY'RE PICKING UP SIX FROM US.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT PICKING UP ANY FROM THEM KIND OF THING.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW AND I DON'T, THIS ISN'T MEANT TO BE TRIVIAL PURSUITS, BUT, BUT TO FIND OUT WHETHER WE REALLY ARE IN DIRECT COMPETITION WITH SOME OF THESE FOLKS, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHO'S POACHING FROM WHO AND WHO'S YEAH.
SO IF WE GO MAYBE TO THE NEXT, UH, PAGE YOU SEE HERE, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER SLIDES SHOW US RED ACROSS THE BOARD, WELL ALL THE WAY TO THE LEFT, UH, ENTRY $50.
IF WE ADDED $52, WE GET OUTTA THE RED AND INTO SOME OTHER COLOR.
YELLOW OR GREEN PRETTY QUICKLY THERE WITH VERY DEMIS AND EVEN THE A HUNDRED DOLLARS YOU GET THERE PRETTY QUICKLY.
I'M NOT, I'M GONNA GO OUT IN A LIMB HERE AND GUESS THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE SAY, WELL I CAN GET $75 MORE OVER THERE SO I'M GONNA QUIT MY JOB AND GO TO ANOTHER.
SO, SO WHERE I'M GOING, I SAID, WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS THE FIRST, THE ENTRY LEVEL ZERO FIVE, EVEN UP TO THE 10 MONEYS MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE ISSUE, MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE ISSUE.
SO YOU REALLY, YOU JUMP OVER TO THE 20 AND 25 WHERE IT'S 3000 DIFFERENTIAL.
THERE AGAIN, IF YOU TAKE THE THE LARGER ONE OR TWOS OUT, YOU GET A WHOLE DIFFERENT ANSWER THERE AS WELL BECAUSE THEY SKEW THE NUMBERS QUITE A BIT.
UM, AND, AND IN FACT, YEAH, NO, SHE USED A MEDIAN UP TOP, WHICH IS GOOD CUZ IF YOU USED AN AVERAGE, THOSE OUTLIERS WOULD SKEW THE NUMBERS PRETTY, PRETTY DRAMATICALLY.
BUT, BUT SO, SO THEN ON THAT 3000 DIFFERENTIAL, MAYBE THAT'S ENOUGH TO INITIATE A MOVE.
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I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW ARE WE LOSING OR GAINING AND WITH WHO AND SO YOU KIND OF KNOW WHO YOUR COMPETITION IS KIND OF THING.SO IT TAKES THIS, THIS IS GREAT STUFF, BUT IT KIND OF TAKES IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF VISIBILITY AND UM, SEE YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? I'M GONNA PAUSE FOR A SECOND.
I VALUE THAT PERSPECTIVE AND APPRECIATE THAT THAT VIEWPOINT AND I THINK THAT YOUR ANALYSIS IS, IS ACCURATE.
THE REASON THAT WE ADDED RICHMOND CITY THIS YEAR, IT WAS NOT ON PAST YEARS, IS BECAUSE WE ARE IN FACT LOSING TEACHERS TO RICHMOND CITY WHERE WE HAVE NOT BEEN IN THE PAST, IT USED TO BE FLUVANNA, WE WERE NOT LOSING ANY TEACHERS TO SAVANNAH.
NOW WE ARE LOSING TEACHERS TO RICHMONDS.
THAT'S WHY, WHY THEY'RE INCLUDED.
AND SO IT'S, IT IS SALARY BUT IT'S ALSO 50% OF OUR WORKFORCE DRIVE 30, 45 MINUTES FROM THESE LOCALITIES.
AND SO MANY OF 'EM ARE ARE, OH GOLLY, I CAN WORK RIGHT NEXT TO MY HOUSE AND MAKE MORE.
DO I REALLY NEED TO DRIVE? THAT'S COMPLICATING SOME DECISION MAKING AS WELL.
AND ULTIMATELY ALL MORE REASON WHY WE JUST GOTTA CONSIDER ALL OF THESE FACTORS WHEN TRYING TO RETAIN A WORKFORCE.
I A HUNDRED PERCENT AGREE AND IF WE ARE, IF THESE ARE DIRECT RE COMPETITORS THAT WE ARE DIRECT COMPETING WITH YEAH.
THEN CERTAINLY THIS CARRIES MORE WEIGHT.
IF IT'S JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE NEIGHBORS AND YOU PUT THE NUMBERS UP THEN, SO YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD HELP THAT THIRD DIMENSION WOULD HELP UNDERSTAND AND SAY THIS IS REALLY HARD DATA THAT WE SHOULD YEAH.
MAYBE LOOK AT TAKING SOME ACTION ON AS OPPOSED TO IT'S INTERESTING INFORMATION KIND OF THING.
MR. VAERS, I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION AND, AND THIS IS ASKING FOR AN ESTIMATION.
SO I I'M PRETTY MUCH GUESSING WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT FIGURES.
IF WE LOSE TWO TO TWO OR THREE TEACHERS, WHAT'S THE COST TO REPLACE THEM IN YOUR ESTIMATION? IN TERMS OF SEARCH INTERVIEWS, ALL THE RESOURCES THAT GET EXPENDED FOR THEM? I, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF RECRUITMENT WOULD BE ABOUT 15,000 THOUSAND DOLLARS BY THE TIME YOU THINK ABOUT TRAINING AND, YOU KNOW, ESTABLISHING CULTURE AND YOU KNOW, THE GIN WAY OF LIFE.
I, I THINK IT'S, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT COST ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH THAT DEPARTURE.
YEAH, I JUST, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE MINOR VARIATIONS IS WHAT REALLY IS THE DEEPER COST.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE HOW THIS BUDGET STAYS SO CLOSE TO LAST YEAR, BUT I, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IN THE, IN THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR, WE CAN JUST DO A DEEPER DIVE INTO THAT TO, UH, MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT SPENDING A QUARTER OF A MILLION HERE FOR REPLACEMENT WHEN WE'RE, WHEN WE CAN DO IT WITH 36,000 HERE.
I JUST FOLLOW MR. BUTTERS COMMENT ON THAT.
UM, CERTAINLY AS WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S GONNA BE SOME TURNOVER THAT, UM, WHERE A SPOUSE GETS RELOCATED OUT OF STATE OR THERE'S GONNA BE SOME WHERE MONEY'S NOT REALLY THE ISSUE.
SO IT'S REALLY THE DISCRETIONARY ONES THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHERE A COUPLE OF DOLLARS HERE MAY SAVE, YOU KNOW, MANY DOLLARS OVER THERE.
THOSE ARE REALLY KINDA THE ONES WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON.
THE ONES THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, LEAVING THE WORKFORCE OR DOING SOMETHING IN DIFFERENT, UM, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO KIND OF, AND WE HAVE THAT DATA NICE.
AND IN FUTURE PRESENTATIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.
WE DO EXIT SURVEYS FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES AND WE HAVE TRACKED OVER TIME THE REASONS WHY FOLKS ARE DEPARTING AND WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE LEAVING THE PROFESSION AT A MORE RAPID RATE, QUITE HONESTLY.
AND WE ARE SEEING MORE FOLKS WHO ARE GOING TO OTHER SCHOOL DIVISIONS.
I SHOULD HAVE INCLUDED IT, BUT WE'LL INCLUDE IT IN FUTURE PRESENTATION.
UM, JUST ONE QUESTION, UH, FOR ME.
THE BOARD DID A GREAT JOB OF TAKING A BUNCH OFF MY LIST AS, AS DID YOU, SO THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HEARD SOMETHING CORRECTLY CUZ IT, YOU KNOW, OF ALL THE YEARS I'VE BEEN LISTENING TO THIS, THIS ONE KIND OF SHOCKED ME A LITTLE BIT, MEANING YOU SAID WE HAVE ABOUT 2,600 STUDENTS AND WHEN YOU STARTED REFERENCING TRANSPORTATION, A THOUSAND OF THOSE STUDENTS USED TRANSPORTATION.
IS THAT, ARE THOSE IT'S PROBABLY A LITTLE HIGHER.
NOT EVERY CHILD RIDES SCHOOL BUS.
I WAS GONNA SAY, CAUSE THOSE NUMBERS ARE MORE LIKE 29% I THINK.
SO WE HAVE LIKE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OUR STUDENTS WEREN'T RIDING THE BUS, SO, BUT THAT MAY NOT BE, I, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 50, 55%.
SO I JUST CAN IMAGINE WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE OF OUR ELEMENTARY STUDENTS RIDING THE BUS THAN OUR HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND SURE.
UM, WOULD YOU MIND IF WE'VE BEEN UP ALMOST A COUPLE HOUR, COUPLE HOURS WITH THIS? COULD WE TAKE A 10 MINUTE RECESS BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE CAPITOL? I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THAT IS.
JUST A FEW SLIDES, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A BREAK.
UM, BIG HAND ON THE 12TH SUNDAY EXPENSE SUMMARY, THEIR BOARD AGENDA, WHICH WAS NOT OH, SO I'M SORRY, BUT YOU DIDN'T, IT IS, NO WORRIES.
I JUST COULDN'T, I WAS QUITE SCRAMBLING FOR THESE GLASSES.
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LAST ONE.IF WE COULD COME BACK TO ORDER, PLEASE.
UH, BOARD MEMBERS JUST WANTED TO FINISH THE PRESENTATION TODAY TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CAPITAL PLANNING.
AND, AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE NEW GUC AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
UH, CERTAINLY WAS A GREAT MOMENT FOR US ALL TO BE ABLE TO BE A PART OF THE GROUNDBREAKING AND, UH, REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT IS HAPPENING DAILY ONSITE.
I'M GONNA SHOW YOU JUST A FEW PICTURES OF WHERE WE ARE AND, UH, SHARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT HOPEFULLY PUT A LITTLE SMILE ON YOUR FACE.
SO, JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE NEW GUC ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH IS GOING TO OPEN IN THE FALL OF 2024.
WE ARE FULLY ON SCHEDULE AND MAKING GREAT PROGRESS.
MOTHER NATURE HAS BEEN VERY KIND TO US OVER THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS.
THESE PICTURES ARE A LITTLE OLD AND IF YOU DRIVE BY THE SITE, IT'S GONNA LOOK EVEN DIFFERENT THAN YOU SEE HERE.
SEDIMENT PONDS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED.
THEY ARE NOW STARTING TO FLATTEN FOR THE CONCRETE PAD, WHICH HOPES TO BE STARTING TO POUR HERE IN JUST A FEW SHORT WEEKS.
SO, UH, A LOT OF PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE ON THE SITE AND, UH, REALLY, UH, THIS IS AGAIN ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO, AND ALL THOSE TREES ARE GONE.
THEY I MEAN, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY MAKING SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS.
IT LOOKS A HECK OF A LOT DIFFERENT THAN IT DID WHEN WE WERE ON THE SITE JUST A FEW SHORT WEEKS AGO.
UH, WE'RE PROVIDING CONTINUED COMMUNICATION WITH OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE PROJECT AND, UH, WORKING, WORKING TOWARDS, UH, REALLY GOOD CO COMPLETION HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UH, I WANT TO SHARE JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME DECISIONS MADE BY THE SCHOOL BOARD ON THIS PROJECT THAT ULTIMATELY ARE TO OUR BENEFIT FOR THE BOTTOM LINE.
WE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES TO CONTINUE TO SAVE DOLLARS.
AND SO THE SCHOOL BOARD LAST TUESDAY CHOSE TO PURCHASE $1.6 MILLION IN H V A C EQUIPMENT DIRECTLY WITH TRANE, AND SAVED $93,000 IN STATE SALES TAX AS A RESULT.
SO THOSE $93,000 GO ULTIMATELY TO OUR BOTTOM LINE.
UM, PART OF THE BUDGET INCLUDED COMMISSIONING WHERE WHEN WE OPENED THIS BUILDING, WE TEST ALL THE SYSTEMS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE WORKING PER DESIGN.
WE HAD AN INITIAL BUDGET, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS HIGHER THAN THE ACTUAL COST FOR THAT COMMISSIONING PROPOSAL.
SO WE SAVED A FEW MORE DOLLARS THERE THAT GO TOWARDS THE BOTTOM LINE.
AND THEN AGAIN, THIS COMING TUESDAY, THE SCHOOL BOARD'S GOING TO CONSIDER ANOTHER DIRECT PURCHASE PROGRAM WHERE WE CAN SAVE ABOUT ANOTHER 40 COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT GOES TOWARDS THE BOTTOM LINE.
SO SOME POSITIVE DEVELOPMENTS THERE THAT ULTIMATELY, UH, RATHER THAN PAYING SALES, SALES TAX, WE CAN USE THOSE TOWARDS THIS PROJECT OR FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
AND SO A LOT OF GREAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING HERE.
WE REMAIN ON SCHEDULE, AND WE ARE UNDER BUDGET AT THIS POINT IN TIME ON THIS PROJECT.
UH, MR. CHAIR, UH, WERE YOU ABLE TO SELL THE TIMBER OR WAS THIS NOT ENOUGH TIMBER? UH, DEBBIE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT TODAY.
UH, I DON'T THINK WE WERE ABLE TO SELL THE TIMBER.
I THINK IT WAS A, A CREDIT GIVEN BACK TO THE CONTRACTOR.
BUT DEBBIE, WHAT, WHAT DID WE DO WITH TIMBER? SO THE, THE LOGGING COMPANY THAT, UM, CUT DOWN ALL THE LOGS AND MOVED IT OFFSITE, UM, PROBABLY A LOT OF THE PINE,
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WE, WE GOT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PINE OFF THE PROPERTY.SO OBVIOUSLY IT CAN BE USED FOR LOG FOR PLANKS, BUT A LOT OF IT WILL GO TO A, UH, PULP FACTORY PULP, PULP MILL.
UM, WE HAD WHAT, WHAT THEY CALL THE MONEY TREES, THE HARDWOOD TREES.
SO THEY KEPT THAT UP AT THE END.
SO IF YOU'D GONE BY IT AT ONE POINT, YOU COULD SEE RANDOM HARD HARDWOOD TREES, UM, ON THE SITE.
AND, UM, THEY WAITED TILL EVERYTHING WAS DOWN AND THEY HAD THE NICE SOFT DIRT AND THEY COULD DROP THOSE TREES SOFTLY SO THEY DIDN'T BREAK.
AND, UM, SO THEY GOT SOME REAL MONEY OUT OF THOSE HARDWOOD TREES.
UM, SO I'M SORRY THAT, BUT, BUT IT IS ALL, DID WE GET SOME OF THE MONEY? NO, IT WAS PART OF THE, THE BID.
SO THE, THE COMPANY THAT BID ON THE, THE TIMBERING PART OF THE PROJECT TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE MONEY THAT THEY COULD GET ON, ON, ON HARVESTING.
IT WAS ALL PART, IT WAS ALL PART OF THE CONTRACT.
SO THERE'S NO INCREMENTAL CHANGE TO THE CONTRACT? NOT, NOT ON TIMBERING, NO, SIR.
THERE'S ALREADY EMBEDDED IN THE, OKAY.
WE'RE, WE'RE CREATING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MUL RIGHT NOW.
SO THEY'VE GOT 'EM ULTRA OUT THERE, UM, BREAKING IT UP AND IT'S GOING OFFSITE.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT'S GOING.
YEAH, I WILL SAY ON A POSITIVE NOTE, THERE WERE SOME ALLOCATIONS FOR SOME OF THE GRADING.
UH, AND WE'VE ONLY HAD TO TAP INTO THAT ALLOCATION JUST A LITTLE BIT FOR SOME MINOR, UM, CONTINGENCIES.
SO WE, WE, WE EXPECT WE MIGHT GET SOME OF THE GRADING BACK TO US, SOME OF THOSE THAT BUDGET BACK TO US.
AND WE HAVEN'T TAPPED INTO CONTINGENCY AT ALL AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
SO THE PROJECT'S REALLY RUNNING WELL.
WE HAVE A GREAT CONTRACTOR WHOM YOU'VE MET.
UH, I'LL TELL YOU, MVP IS MANAGING THIS PROJECT EXTREMELY WELL.
AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY BEEN A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE TO DATE.
UH, AND SO BOARD MEMBERS ALSO SHARED WITH YOU, I THINK IT WAS IN JANUARY WHEN WE HAD A WORK SESSION.
WE SHARED A VARIETY OF THINGS THAT WERE REQUESTED OF YOU BY THE SCHOOL BOARD.
AND I SHARED IN THAT SETTING WHERE WE PRIORITIZED THOSE ITEMS THAT WERE MOST IMPORTANT, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE ARE LIMITED RESOURCES AND WE HAVE TO CERTAINLY, UH, PRIORITIZE.
BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT I SHARED WITH YOU IN THAT SETTING IN THE HIGH SCHOOL.
H V A C CERTAINLY RISES TO THE LEVEL OF PRIORITY AND THOSE THINGS THAT IMPACT LIFE SAFETY, LIKE, UH, TRANSFER SWITCHES AND REPLACEMENTS OF ELECTRICAL SWITCH GEAR.
UH, ULTIMATELY WE'D LOVE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OUR, OUR REPLACEMENT OF OUR WHITE FLEET AND OUR YELLOW FLEET.
BUT THE THINGS THAT ARE AT THE TOP, THESE FIRST FOUR BULLETS REMAIN THE PRIORITY FOR OUR SCHOOL DIVISION RIGHT NOW.
SO AGAIN, A BUDGET THAT BUILDS BRIGHTER FUTURES, I HOPE THAT OUT OF YOU, AS YOU HAVE, UH, DIGESTED THIS BUDGET AND THAT YOU HAVE RECOGNIZED HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REALLY USE OUR TAXPAYER RESOURCES VERY WISELY TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE CONTINUAL NEEDS OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
I HOPE THAT YOU HAVE SOME PRIDE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING AND RECOGNIZE THE WORK OF OUR TEAM AND HOW WE CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL SUCCESS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, ANYWAY, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE TODAY.
I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE BUDGET FOR JUST A MINUTE.
SOMETHING I THOUGHT ABOUT SURE.
UM, SO THE, OUR INFAMOUS ELECTRIC SCHOOL BUSES MM-HMM.
SO IS THAT GRANT MONEY IN HERE? UH, THAT WAS FOR THE, THAT GRANT MONEY THAT YOU APPROPRIATED AT YOUR LAST MEETING IS IN THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, FY 23.
AND IT'S BASICALLY ALMOST A WASH.
THE COST OF THE BUSES IS ABOUT, WHAT WAS IT, A HUNDRED? YEAH, THE ADDITIONAL COST OF THE BUSES IS IN THE SCHOOL BOARD'S REQUEST, UH, IN CAPITAL AND ALSO IN THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
OUR, OUR REQUEST FOR OPERATIONS INCLUDES TWO SCHOOL BUS REPLACEMENTS, AND THE CAPITAL BUDGET HAS ONE SCHOOL BUDGET.
SO THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL BUILT IN.
NOW, THANK YOU MR. PETERSON, MR. CHAIR.
UM, UH, BACK IN MY MEMORY, A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO, UM, A NUMBER POPPED UP FROM THE SCHOOLS THAT WERE CON CONTRIBUTE TO THE GES COST WAS ABOUT 1,000,001 FOR A GRANT, A FEDERAL GRANT.
AND IN A SUBSEQUENT MEETING, THAT NUMBER DISAPPEARED, AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT GRANT WASN'T GONNA COME THROUGH.
UM, IS THIS RINGING ANY BELLS OR AM I JUST MAKE, WE WERE TRYING TO GET, UH, AN H V A C GRANT THROUGH THE EPA, BUT THAT, UH, THEY SAID THAT OUR SUBMISSION WAS NOT WORTHY OF FUTURE CONSIDERATION.
UM, THAT BRINGS ME FORWARD TO TODAY, UM, IN
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THE TRANSMITTAL LETTER, UH, FROM TO OUR CHAIR FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD.UM, I'M GOING TO PAGE, IT LOOKS LIKE PAGE TWO.
IT'S, I'M NOT SURE WHAT PAGE IN THE PACKET IT IS.
SO THEN THE NEXT PAGE IS 86, THE SECOND, IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, FOUR OUT OF FIVE.
PAGE FOUR OUT OF FIVE IN THE TRANSMITTAL LETTER, I GUESS, UH, DATED MARCH 1ST.
UM, I GO TO THE, ABOUT THE, ABOUT THE THIRD PARAGRAPH.
IT'S, UH, BOLDED FY 24 THROUGH 28, CAPITAL BUDGET, C I P.
AND I GO TO THE END OF THAT FIRST PARAGRAPH IN THAT, IN THAT THE END, THE LAST SENTENCE IN THAT PARAGRAPH.
AND IT, IT TALKS ABOUT TO HELP FUND THE H V A C PROJECTS IN FY 23 AND 24 CIP P BUDGET.
THE SCHOOLS HAVE TRANSFERRED 1.196, UM, MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE STATE'S FY 23 SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION GRANT.
TO THE SCHOOL'S CAPITAL FUND TO FUND THE H V A C PROJECTS.
I, IS THAT A 1.19 MILLION GRANT FROM THE STATE'S SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION GRANT GOING TO THE GES CONSTRUCTION? NO, SIR.
UM, WE'RE REALLY GOING BACK IN OUR MEMORY HERE, BUT LAST, IN THE FY 23 BUDGET, IT WAS APPROVED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
UH, THERE WAS 1.2 MILLION IN SPECIFIC SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION GRANTS.
THAT WAS A CONVERSATION WE HAD AROUND THIS TIME LAST YEAR WHERE WE SAID, THAT IS MONEY THAT'S GOING TO COME TO THE SCHOOL DIVISION AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THAT TO THE COUNTY FOR YOUR USE TO FUND OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS.
AND THE COUNTY DECIDED AT THE TIME IT'S GONNA BE $600,000 IN FY 23 AND $600,000 IN FY 24.
SO THAT IS NOT IN THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD IN THE PAST.
IT WAS NOT FOR THE NEW GES, IT WAS FOR FUNDING OTHER CAPITAL PROJECTS AND HAS BEEN RETURNED TO THE COUNTY FOR THE USE OF SCHOOL DIVISION C I P.
CAUSE I READ, WHEN I READ SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION GRANT, I'M THINKING, OH, GOOD, WE'RE CONSTRUCTING A SCHOOL.
IT'S JUST A GENERAL TERM THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY USES FOR THAT POT OF MONEY.
IT CAN BE USED FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION, RENOVATION, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
UH, ONGOING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT IS AN APPLICABLE USE OF THOSE RESOURCES.
SO WE'RE USING FOR MAINTENANCE, WE'RE USING PLACEMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR YOUR APPROPRIATION TO US, FOR OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THE OTHER SCHOOLS.
WELL THAT ANSWERS MY ORIGINAL QUESTION, WHICH IS THIS, THAT SAME 1.1 MILLION SHOWING UP AGAIN, IT SHOWED UP, IT DISAPPEARED.
I JUST WONDERED IF IT WAS THE SAME NUMBERS.
IT WE, WE, WE COULD FOLLOW THE PAPER TRAIL.
IS THERE, IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S THE PAPER TRAILS IMMATERIAL AT THIS POINT.
IT, IT, I JUST, IT'S NOT BEING COUNTED TWICE.
AND THIS IS BEING SPENT ON MAINTENANCE, NOT CONSTRUCTION, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
IT'S NOT FOR THE NEW GES, IT'S FOR ONGOING CAPITALS FOR THE OTHER FOUR SCHOOLS.
YOU'VE ANSWERED ALL MY QUESTIONS.
SORRY FOR THE TRIP DOWN MEMORY LANE, BUT, UM, THAT 1.1 FOR CONSTRUCTION SEEMED LIKE A VERY FAMILIAR NUMBER THAT SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN COMING BACK AND FORTH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT THOUGH.
UH, MR. PETERSON, UM, MADE ME THINK OF SOMETHING.
RILEY, THE FISCAL YEAR 2024, UH, CAPITAL PRIORITIES, THESE ARE FUNDED, UH, NO, 20 FISCAL YEAR 24.
WE'RE SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL OF THOSE FUNDS AS YOU DEVELOPED BUDGET PART OF THIS BUDGET, RIGHT? PART OF PART OF THE CURRENT DELIBERATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH? YES, MA'AM.
BECAUSE IT, I THINK IN THE PAST WE HAVE SEEN, UM, PROJECTS THAT COULD NOT BE FUNDED OR HAD TO BE WISHLIST IF, IF YOU WILL.
AND YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT THIS YEAR.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, I MEAN, I'M GONNA SAY IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG, I JUST WON'T MATTER WHERE WE ARE AT.
THE SCHOOL BOARD IN DECEMBER, UH, THEY APPROVE THEIR REQUEST AND CERTAINLY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT REQUEST IS, IS LIKELY NOT TO BE FUNDED, UH, JUST BECAUSE OF THE MULTITUDE OF NEEDS THAT EVERYONE HAS.
SO PRIORITIZED THOSE REQUESTS FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD ON THIS SLIDE THAT WE HAD EARLIER I GOT TODAY.
SO UNDERSTANDING, YES, WE, YOU ALL THOSE ARE NEEDS, RIGHT? BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL THOSE NEEDS MAY NOT BE FUNDED.
SO WE'VE NARROWED THAT DOWN TO THE GOTCHA PRIORITIZED NEEDS.
BOARD, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM.
NEXT FOR OUR REPORTS, UM, FOR A NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE AN UPDATE
[2. Update on Village Plans]
ON OUR VILLAGE PLAN BY OUR DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MS. CRYSTAL ANAS.[02:15:01]
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.UM, BEFORE I DELVE INTO OUR KIND OF WRITTEN UPDATE FOR YOU ALL, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING IN EARNEST, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MS. SHERRY, AND OUR PLANNERS, OUR IN-HOUSE PLANNERS, ON TAKING EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN HEARD TO DATE FROM YOU ALL AS OFFICIALS FROM OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY FROM OUR PUBLIC, UM, THROUGH THE COMMUNITY INPUT FROM MEETINGS TO OUR ONLINE COMMENTS AND WORKING ON IDENTIFYING A PATH FORWARD AND WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE.
SO I WANNA TAKE A FEW MOMENTS AND TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THAT.
SO, A AS YOU ALL KNOW, OUR SMALL AREA PLANNING EFFORTS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PRIORITY FOR OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS IN THE CENTERVILLE AND COURTHOUSE VILLAGE AREAS.
FOR THIS PATH FORWARD, GM WILL BE WORKING WITH TIM'S GROUP, A LOCAL FIRM BASED IN RICHMOND FOR A FRESH PERSPECTIVE ON OUR PLANS FOR THE COURTHOUSE.
AND CENTERVILLE VILLAGES TIMMONS GROUP WILL BE REVIEWING ALL PREVIOUS COMMUNITY AND STAKEHOLDER INPUT TO BUILD UPON THE WORK DONE TO DATE.
A CENTRAL GOAL OF GLA AND TIMMONS GROUP WITH THIS EFFORT IS TO ENSURE THAT COMMUNITY INPUT AND FEEDBACK OBTAINED TO DATE IS PROMINENTLY HIGHLIGHTED, GIVEN THE COMMON THEMES EXPRESSED THAT WE HAVE HEARD AND RECEIVED ONLINE.
SO, AGAIN, EMPHASIZING THAT TIMMONS HAS EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH LAND USE AND PLANNING GIVEN THEIR WORKING REGIONAL PLANNING, GIVEN THEIR WORK WITH REGIONAL PLANNING ORGANIZATIONS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE GREATER RICHMOND REGION.
ADDITIONALLY, TIMMONS HAS AN ESTABLISHED WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH GUC AND COUNTY, AND THEY'VE WORKED WITH US ON A VARIETY OF CAPITAL AND TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS AND PLANNING EFFORTS.
PREVIOUSLY, THROUGH THIS REVIEW PROCESS, TIMMONS WILL PROPOSE A FRAMEWORK FOR THE PLANS THAT WILL FOCUS ON REGULATING PRINCIPLES SO THAT STAFF ACTUALLY HAS A VALID TOOL IN THEIR TOOLBOX RATHER THAN THE ONE-OFFS THAT WE CONTINUALLY SEE AS APPLICATIONS INCONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT IDENTIFY APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT ZONES, WHILE BALANCING THE UNIQUE CHARACTER OF EACH VILLAGE AND HIGHLIGHTING PRESERVATION.
THAT IS A CORE COMPONENT ONCE COMPLETED.
PLANS WILL INCLUDE A GUIDE FOR FUTURE LAND USE DECISIONS TO ALLOW FOR FLEXIBILITY OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN ACCEPTABLE GUIDELINES.
AND AGAIN, FLEXIBILITY WAS ANOTHER KEY CORE THEME THAT WE HAVE HEARD AND THAT HAS RESONATED WITH STAFF.
AND WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
GLAND COUNTY, ALONG WITH TIMMONS, WILL SCHEDULE MEETINGS TO PROVIDE A PROJECT UPDATE TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEY WILL ALSO BE PRESENTING DURING FUTURE PUBLIC MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE FOR YOU ALL AS A BODY AS WELL AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND AGAIN, WE HOPE TO HAVE A COMPLETED PLAN FOR CONSIDERATION FOR YOU ALL FOR ADOPTION, UM, LATE SPRING 2023.
SO WITHIN THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 60 TO 70 DAYS IS WHEN WE'RE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO GET A BOW, UM, SO TO SPEAK ON THIS AND GET IT OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
HAP HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, MS. SHERRY AND I, UM, ON WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT UPDATE, WARD.
ANY QUESTIONS, MS. LASETTE? ALL RIGHT, SO JUST REAL QUICK, SO, UM, KUDOS FROM TRYING TO TAKE THIS PROJECT FORWARD.
REALLY APPRECIATE, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA WORK, HOPEFULLY, REALLY WELL KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED.
SO THE NEXT STEPS IS WE'RE WAITING ON THEIR PRELIMINARY PLANS, THEN THAT'S GONNA GO BACK OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
IS THAT HOW WE'RE IT'S GONNA WORK, YES, MA'AM.
UM, STAFF WILL ACTUALLY BE RECEIVING A PROPOSED FRAMEWORK THIS FRIDAY, AND I CAN ACTUALLY LET MS. SHERRY TELL YOU A LITTLE MORE ABOUT THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.
THAT STAFF WILL, WE'RE, WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO GET DELIVERABLES.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE ARE, WE'VE BEEN MEETING, UM, REGULARLY SINCE, UH, WE, UH, INITIATED THE, THE RELATIONSHIP.
AND SO WE ARE EXPECTING TO, AS, UH, MR.
UH, SO HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WITH FEEDBACK FROM STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, KEEP THEM ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
UM, THEY ARE COMMITTED TO LOOKING BACK, I KNOW THEY'VE ALREADY WATCHED ALL THE VIDEOS, WE'VE SENT THEM ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THEY, THEY NEED ALL THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO WE ARE, UM, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS NOW OF SETTING DATES.
I'M NOT GONNA SELL ANYBODY NOW CUZ THEY'RE ALL TENTATIVE.
BUT, UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO, TO KEEP THE TIMEFRAME THAT, UM, WAS, WAS MENTIONED, WE ARE PLANNING A WORK SESSION WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, THERE WILL ALSO BE, UM, A, AN UPDATE MEETING WHERE, UM, THE PLAN WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY.
PRIOR PLANS, UH, WILL BE PRESENTED PRIOR TO IT GOING TO PUBLIC HEARING IN, IN THE NEXT COMING MONTHS.
ONE THING I WILL NOTE AS WELL, AND, UM, IT, WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN A PROCESS OF THEM COMING AND ACTUALLY DOING BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
ONE OCCURRED LAST WEEK, AND THEY WILL BE COMING AGAIN WITH THEIR WHOLE TEAM, UM, TO, UH, THE OTHER
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VILLAGE.SO THEY'VE COME TO THE COURTHOUSE AREA, THEY'LL BE WORKING ON CENTERVILLE AS WELL.
MR. LUMPKINS, ARE, ARE WE, UH, SETTLED WITH OUR PRIOR CONSULTANT? HAVE WE SETTLED AND, AND WE'RE WE'RE PAID IN FULL AND WE'RE, YES.
WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME RECONCILIATION, UM, WITH THE CONTRACT AND INVOICES.
STAFF HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH THAT AND REVIEWING, AND WE HAVE, UM, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT, RECEIVED ALL FINAL INVOICES FROM THE PREVIOUS CONSULTANT.
SO BY THAT I MEAN, AT LEAST EVERYTHING THAT THEY ARE WORKING TO BILL US, THEY'VE HAD THEIR FINAL OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT A REMIT INVOICE FOR.
THAT IS IT FOR OUR NEW BUSINESS.
SO WE ARE GONNA BE HEADING INTO OUR DINNER BREAK RECESS, AND WE WILL BE BACK HERE AT 6:00 PM
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OUR EVENING SESSION OF OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.I GOT A FEW THINGS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
WE'LL START OFF WITH CITIZEN COMMENT.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO, UH, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM VDOT, AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON SOME LAND USE CASES.
UM, SO THE WAY THIS WORKS IS THAT WE GO INTO OUR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
WE HAVE THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
YOU JUST COME UP TO THE FRONT, UH, MAKE SURE THE GREEN LIGHT IS ON.
AND, UH, DURING THE COMMENTS, WHETHER IT BE PUBLIC HEARING OR CITIZEN COMMENT, WE JUST ASK FOR DECORUM.
UH, WE, WE TRY TO GIVE EVERY RESPECT TO EVERYONE.
SO FOR THE SPEAKERS AND FOR THE, THE, THE AUDIENCE.
SO, UH, IF YOU COULD JUST PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD AND, UM, WE'LL HAVE A GREAT EVENING OF A LOT OF CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT.
UH, THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD IS FOR THINGS THAT AREN'T ON THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT, THE V D A REPORT, THERE IS NO PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE IT'S JUST A REPORT BEING PRESENTED TO US AROUND FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.
UM, AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU COME, JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND YOU'LL HAVE ABOUT THREE MINUTES.
THE LIGHTS WILL BLINK AND THEY'LL START TO BLINK YELLOW.
AND THEN WHEN YOUR TIME IS ENDED, THEY'LL BLINK RED AND WE ASK YOU JUST TO TRY TO WRAP IT UP.
UH, UH, SO WE, LIKE, WE CAN RESPECT EVERYONE'S TIME.
AND AT THAT, I WILL OPEN THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
[XIV. Citizen Comment]
THERE'S A RED BUTTON ON THE BASE OF THE MIC.HI, MY NAME IS TINA WINKLER AND I'M FROM MAIDEN'S, AND I AM HAVE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS.
ONE IS THAT I REACHED OUT TO ONE OF YOU AND NEVER RES NEVER GOT A RESPONSE.
AND WITH TRANSPARENCY, I THINK I AM OWED A PHONE CALL BACK.
SO WHEN CAN I EXPECT THAT PHONE CALL? UM, THIS ISN'T A CONVERSATION OR DEBATE.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'LL BE RESPONDING APPROPRIATELY.
MY OTHER CONCERN IS THAT ONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HERE HAS FOIA PERSONAL INFORMATION FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR EVERY PERSON, EVERY PARENT, GUARDIAN, PHONE NUMBER, ADDRESS, EMAIL, THAT IS TO ME, AN INVASION OF PRIVACY AND SHOULD NOT BE, IT'S A VIOLATION OF HER ETHICS, IN MY OPINION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MS. MM-HMM.
I RESIDE AT 2070 MAIDENS ROAD.
UM, I'D LIKE TO GO ON THE RECORD FOR DENYING THE APPROVAL OF ROUTE 6 32 SAFETY STUDY AND YIELD MY TIME TO MR. BENS SLOAN.
UM, HI, I'M BARBARA SLOAN, 2052 MAIDENS ROAD.
I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT YOU DENY APPROVAL OF THE FAIRGROUND ROAD STUDY AS I AM A PERSON WHO DRIVES ON FAIRGROUND ROAD MULTIPLE TIMES EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND I WOULD YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO BEN SLOAN.
MR. CHAIRMAN, HONOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MADAM COUNSEL, MADAM SECRETARY.
I RESIDE AT 2 0 52 MEETINGS ROAD, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND AT THE SAME TIME,
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ADDRESS THIS COMMITTEE.FIRST, UH, UH, THE BOARD, EXCUSE ME, FIRST OF ALL, UH, LET ME SAY THAT, UH, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU DID CREATE THIS, UM, ASK FOR THIS STUDY AND SINCERELY APPRECIATE AND APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE.
AND, UH, IN PARTICULAR BY O MR. AUSTIN, GOING, UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, UM, WHAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE AGENDA MIGHT NOT REFLECT PROPERLY.
WHAT IS THE ACTION THAT'S GONNA BE TAKEN WITH REGARDS TO THIS STUDY? BUT WHAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT WITH REGARDS TO THIS STUDY IS SEVERAL, SEVERAL THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, THE ANNUAL FAIRGROUND ACCIDENT RATE THAT IS SPECIFIED WITHIN THE STUDY DOES NOT INCLUDE 2022.
AND IT DOES EMPHATICALLY STATE 2018 WAS THE HIGHEST YEAR OF ACCIDENTS ON THE ROAD.
THAT IS, UH, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE, AND THAT'S ALSO CONFIRMED BY THE DATA THAT IS AVAILABLE FROM THE UCHIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
AND I MIGHT ADD THAT I BELIEVE THAT DATA SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN ANY STUDY BECAUSE, UH, THE FR 300 M REPORT THAT'S COMMONLY FILED HAS CRITERIA IN IT THAT MIGHT NOT YIELD THE ACTUAL ACCIDENT RATE THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE ROAD.
AND I HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, BY THIS POINT, UH, SENT A SERIES OF COMMENTS IN WITH REGARDS TO THIS STUDY.
I WILL ALSO MOVE ON TO ADDRESS.
UM, AND, AND SO THEREFORE, LET ME BACKTRACK.
2022 WAS THE HIGHEST ACCIDENT RATE ON FAIRGROUND ROAD.
AND THAT'S A BAD SIGN OF THINGS THAT COME, ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IN THE STUDY SAYS THERE'S AN ASSUMPTION THERE'S A 1.5% COMPOUND ANNUAL GROWTH RATE OF TRAFFIC ON FAIRGROUND ROAD.
UM, IT DOES NOT DECLARE WHERE THOSE NUMBERS COME FROM.
IT'S KIND OF REMINDS ME OF THE OLD JOKE, UH, ON A BLACKBOARD WHERE IT SAYS DENIER OCCURS AND THERE'S A SOLUTION IN THE EQUATION.
I THINK IT THAT NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIED.
AND I'LL SUGGEST THAT WITH DATA THAT'S AVAILABLE EITHER FROM THE GLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE FREELY AVAILABLE, AND THEY'RE VERY READILY SHARE THAT INFORMATION, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE TRENDS ARE NOWHERE 1.5% JUST IN THE LAST YEAR LOAN.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE APPROVED INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE, OR THE INFORMATION WE HAVE ABOUT THE APPROVALS OF LOTS, IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET MORE DRAMATIC OF AN INCREASE.
AND IT'S FOCUSING DOWN ON JUST THE AREA AROUND FAIRGROUND ROAD AND THE COURTHOUSE.
THERE'S NO WAY TO SUPPORT THE GWIN COUNTY VILLAGE STUDY, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, BECAUSE OF THE FACT OF ALL THE TRAFFIC THAT DON'T BE REQUIRED TO GO IN AND OUT OF THIS AREA.
NOW, IF WE LOOK AT THE UVA STAT CHAT THAT CAME OUT EARLIER, I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST WEEK, GUC AND COUNTY IS RECOGNIZED AS THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTY IN THE COMMONWEALTH, VIRGINIA ONLY BEHIND NEW KENT COUNTY.
AND THAT BECOMES VERY IMPORTANT WHEN YOU CONSIDER WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE TRAFFIC THAT IS ON THAT ROAD.
IN ADDITION TO HISTORY, UH, SAFETY ANALYSIS SECTION DOES NOT INCLUDE A, ANY TYPE OF DISCUSSION OF ALL THE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE APPLIED TO ROAD.
AND THERE'S TWO IMPORTANT FACTORS IN THAT.
ONE IS THAT IT DID, THERE ARE NUMEROUS DOCUMENTS THAT STUDIED THE TRAFFIC AND THAT THEY NEED TO BE ANALYZED AND USED.
THE SECOND THING IS, THERE ARE COMMITMENTS THAT ARE MADE IN THERE IN TERMS OF RELATIVE SAFETY.
AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO EITHER DISMISS ALL THAT OR TO RECOGNIZE IT, UH, CHANGE IT OR SAY IT'S, IT'S VALID.
THE INTERSECTION FINDING SUBSECTION DOES NOT INCLUDE THE, UM, FAIRGROUND ROAD ANIMAL SHELTER ADOPTION CENTER, UH, CENTRAL CONVENIENCE CENTER HITTER AND ROCK PARK INTERSECTION AT ALL ON FAIRGROUND.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE THIRD MOST IMPORTANT INTERSECTION ON FAIRGROUND ROAD BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT OF THE, UH, THOSE FACILITIES THERE.
UH, I THINK THE IMPROVEMENTS OVERALL ARE GOOD, BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE.
FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE WITHIN THE EASTERN PART OF FAIRGROUND ROAD, PAST MAINS ROAD, WE HAVE THREE PASSING ZONES.
THERE'S NO NEED FOR THREE PASSING ZONES IN THAT AREA, ESPECIALLY THE ONE THAT COMES UP ON THE AREA OF THE INTERSECTION WITH THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
UM, THOSE ARE HAZARDOUS AREAS, AND I'LL, I'LL SUGGEST THAT SHOULDN'T BE DONE.
THERE'S ALSO A LACK OF SPECIFICATION OF OTHER THINGS IN THERE THAT INCLUDE, UH, REFLECTIVE PAINT AND OTHER THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
LIKE SINCE WE ARE IN THE VILLAGE AT THAT POINT, PAST MAIDENS ROAD ON FAIRGROUND ROAD, DECREASE THE SPEED LIMIT TO 35 MILES AN HOUR.
THAT IS KIND OF THE SPEED LIMIT THAT'S SET FOR THE REST OF THE VILLAGE OUTSIDE OF THE OTHER SIDE OF MAIDEN'S ROAD.
GOING DOWN TO THE 5 22 MAIDENS BRIDGE.
UM, IN GENERAL, THE STUDY CONTAINS MORE OR LESS SINGULAR POINT DATA, NOT TREND DATA.
WE, DATA ACQUISITION IS SO LOW COST TODAY, DATA ANALYTICS IS EVEN LOWER COST.
AND I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THE COUNTY ESTABLISHED ITS OWN, LET'S SAY, SYSTEMATIC REVIEW
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OF DATA AND SET UP DATA, ANA, EXCUSE ME, DATA, UH, ACQUISITION ALL ACROSS THE COUNTY FOR THESE ROADS, AND THEN PROVIDE ITS OWN FEEDBACK TO VDOT.THE, UM, DOCUMENT ITSELF CONTAINS SEVERAL I'LL SUGGEST, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR AN ENHANCEMENT WITH REGARDS TO ANYWHERE FROM REFERENCING, THERE'S MULTIPLE FIGURES, ONES, FIVES, ET CETERA, THROUGHOUT THE DOCUMENT AND, AND OTHER PROBLEMS WITH IT.
AND SO ORIGINALLY WHEN LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT OF APPROVAL, DENIAL, DEFERRAL, THAT WAS IN THE, UM, THE AGENDA ITEM.
UM, I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT IF IT WAS GOING TO BE DEFERRED THAT YOU CONSIDER IT AFTER THE MARCH MEETING OF, UH, THE WORK SESSION THAT'S GONNA INVOLVE TRANSPORTATION ON THE 14TH.
AND I'LL ALSO SUGGEST THAT THERE SHOULD BE GLAND COUNTY CITIZEN INPUT ON THE STUDY BECAUSE I KNOW THIS, UM, WAS JUST AVAILABLE AND, UM, IT WAS NOT POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN FAIRGROUND ROAD, UH, TO, UM, ACTUALLY BE, WAS THAT THE LAST ONE? NO, YOU HAVE A COUPLE.
SO I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT, AND I THINK CITIZENS IN PARTICULAR THAT I, BECAUSE OF ANOTHER ISSUE YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT I'VE WALKED, UH, THE ROAD AND TALKED TO CITIZENS.
THERE IS A LOT OF CONCERN ON THE ROAD AND THERE'S A LOT OF ACCENTS ON THE ROAD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
THANK YOU FOR RESPECTING THE TIME, MR. SLOAN.
UM, MY NAME IS JENNIFER STROZIER.
UM, AND THANKS FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT.
UM, RECENTLY I TOOK THE TIME TO REVIEW THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CODE OF ETHICS AND STANDARDS OF CONDUCT.
I WAS DEEPLY IMPRESSED AT THE THOUGHT AND COMMITMENT TO TRANSPARENCY THAT WENT INTO IT.
YOUR BOARD HOLDS ITSELF TO AN INCREDIBLY HIGH STANDARD.
AND I'M AWARE THAT THE PREVIOUS BOARD MIGHT NOT HAVE HELD ITSELF QUITE AS ACCOUNTABLE IN THE WORDS OF, OF THE CODE OF ETHICS THEMSELVES.
THE STEWARDSHIP OF SUCH OFFICE DEMANDS THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF ETHICAL AND MORAL CONDUCT.
THAT IS YOUR, UM, THAT IS YOUR BOARD SHOULD BE BEYOND REPROACH.
BUT CURRENTLY IN OUR COMMUNITY, THE ACTIONS OF THE DISTRICT ONE REPRESENTATIVE IS, HAS NOT BEEN BEGUN REPROACH.
THERE ARE THOSE WHO FEEL THAT SHE HAS USED HER POSITION TO PUSH A VERY SPECIFIC AGENDA, THAT SHE HAS USED HER REPUTATION AND POWER AS A BOARD MEMBER TO ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE OUR SCHOOL BOARD AND PERHAPS EVEN OUR BOARD OF ELECTIONS.
THE CODES AND STANDARDS THEMSELVES CALL UPON GUC AND CITIZENS WHEN THEY FEEL THE CODES HAVE BEEN VIOLATED TO SUBMIT A COMPLAINT.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT, WE HAVE SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT TO THE CLERK OF THE COURT.
THAT COMPLAINT HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND WE HAVE BEEN ASSURED THAT IT WILL GO TO ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WHO WILL REVIEW THE COMPLAINT AND DETERMINE IF IT IS VALID.
UM, THAT IS ONE FROM A RESIDENT WHICH ALLEGES CONDUCT THAT MAY CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF THE CODE OF ETHICS OR STANDARDS OF CONDUCT.
THE MOST RECENT FINDINGS FROM AN EXTENSION, EXTENSIVE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION SEARCH HAS REVEALED TWO VERY DISTURBING REQUESTS MADE TO THE SCHOOL BOARD BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DISTRICT ONE REPRESENTATIVE.
THE FIRST ONE WAS A DEMAND FOR THE CONTACT INFORMATION OF ALL THE PARENTS AND LEGAL GUARDIANS OF ALL STUDENTS IN THE GLAND COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THE SECOND IS A CHALLENGE TO THE SCHOOL CURRICULA, SPECIFICALLY THAT DEALING WITH THE TEACHINGS OF BLACK HISTORY IN WHAT CAN ONLY BE INFERRED TO BE AN ATTEMPT TO ERASE BLACK HISTORY EVIDENCE EXISTS THAT THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, SUPERVISOR, DISTRICT ONE REPRESENTATIVE, ORGANIZED AND DIRECTED THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON JULY, 2021, AS WELL AS A SOCIAL MEDIA POST BY A ROGUE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER ON JANUARY 26TH, 2023.
BOTH IT SEAM ATTEMPTS TO ATTACK THE VALIDITY OF THE SCHOOL BOARD SUPERINTENDENT AND SCHOOL SYSTEM.
THERE IS MORE AND COMING IN TODAY, WE ALL, WE WILL FORWARD ALL THE EVIDENCE AND HAVE TO THE CLERK TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE BOARD AND COUNTY ATTORNEY AS DIRECTED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, MS. STRU.
HELLO, UM, LAUREN COMSTOCK, DISTRICT TWO.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
BY NOW, YOU PROBABLY HAVE RECEIVED OUR VIOLATIONS COMPLAINT BY SUSAN LAS COLLETTE.
AS A PARENT WITH YOUNG KIDS, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT MS. LAS COLLETTE'S IN INTERFERENCE WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM.
WE ARE JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE OF THE EVIDENCE THAT SHE HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS.
WE KNOW SHE IS SENDING OUT INSTRUCTIONS TO G TO THE RESIDENCE ON WHAT TO HARASS THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT.
SHE IS EVEN PUBLICLY CRITICIZING THEM IN THE GAZETTE.
BUT I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, ADDRESS THE FOIA,
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THE RECENT FOIA OF OUR SCHOOL.UH, THE INFORMATION ABOUT ALL OF OUR, UH, PARENT GUARDIANS PERSONAL INFORMATION.
UM, A LOT OF US EMAILED AND WANTED TO KNOW WHAT IT WAS GONNA BE USED FOR, AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING.
UM, BACK, UM, JUST ON FRIDAY, MS. WE SEEING WAS HANDING OUT DOOR HANGERS IN THE GLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PARKING LOT, AND SHE DID NOT HAVE PERMISSION, BUT THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER STORY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WAS THIS, DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THE ADDRESSES THAT WERE FOYER? AND I JUST LEARNED TODAY THAT SHE'S ALSO KNOCKING ON, UH, RESIDENT'S DOORS AND TELLING THEM THAT, THAT HER OPPONENT IS IN A DIFFERENT DISTRICT.
SO I WANNA KNOW WHAT OUR ADDRESSES WERE USED FOR.
UM, I ASK FOR ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THE CODE OF ETHICS AND THE STANDARDS OF CONDUCT VIOLATIONS FOR MS. ATLAS.
AND I WOULD LIKE HER TO STICK WITH HER ELECTED ROLE AND STAY OUT OF OUR SCHOOLS.
HI, MY NAME IS ELIZABETH BOWERS.
I LIVE, UM, ON PROFIT ROAD 2100.
UM, I AM HERE BECAUSE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE THAT'S GONNA BE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING.
I LIVE IS, MA'AM, THIS IS FOR NOT SOMETHING THAT'S NOT, THAT'S FOR LATER.
I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE ASKED THAT FIRST.
HAVE APPRECIATE IT ALL THE TIME.
WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU, MA'AM.
ANYONE ELSE? FOR CITIZEN COMMON PERIOD.
NOW WE ARE GONNA MOVE INTO OUR PRESENTATION FROM OUR PARTNERS AT VDOT,
[XV. Presentation by the Virginia Department of Transportation on the Fairground Road]
UH, TO PRESENT TO US THE FINDINGS OF A STUDY THAT WAS REQUESTED AT THE, UH, BEHEST OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO, TO STUDY THE, THE SAFETY AND, UH, OF FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER, PHILLIP FRAZIER.
UM, I'M THE ASSISTANT RESIDENT ENGINEER IN ASHLAND.
UH, YOU OFTEN SEE MARSHALL WYNN.
YOU SAW HIM EARLIER TODAY GIVEN THE MAINTENANCE REPORT.
UM, SO, UH, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE A PRESENTATION ON TONIGHT IS REALLY WHAT I KIND OF DIG MY HANDS INTO ON A REGULAR BASIS WITH, UH, WITH TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, UM, AND FUTURE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UH, JUST TO PREFACE, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED BY GUC AND COUNTY AS A A PRIORITY CORRIDOR, UM, FOR THE COUNTY.
AND WE WANTED TO LOOK AT IT FROM A HOLISTIC VIEW OF WHAT KIND OF SAFETY CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE, UH, YOU KNOW, SOUGHT AFTER TO IMPROVE THE CORRIDOR.
SO, UM, THE STUDY IS, IT DOESN'T REQUIRE YOU GUYS TO SUBMIT APPLICATIONS FOR ANY TYPE OF PROJECT.
UM, IT'S JUST A REPORT, UM, IDENTIFYING FACTS AND PRESENTING RECOMMENDATIONS BY, UH, BY OUR CONSULTANT, WHICH IN THIS CASE WAS DONE.
THE STUDY WAS ACTUALLY COMPLETED BY KITTLESON AND ASSOCIATE.
SO THE AGENDA, UH, REAL QUICKLY IS, UM, GO OVER THIS STUDY SCOPE.
UM, AND I ALSO GAVE EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, IF IT GOT PASSED OUT, UM, COPY OF THE HANDOUT.
SO, UM, THE STUDY SCOPE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT DATA COLLECTION, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT KIND OF DATA AND WHAT KIND OF CHARTS YOU'LL SEE IN THE REPORT.
UM, I WON'T GO INTO EACH BIT IN GREAT DETAIL.
JUST WANNA GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT'S THERE.
UM, THE IMPROVEMENT TIER, SO, UH, SHORT, MID, AND LONG-TERM, UH, SOLUTIONS, UH, CORRIDOR VERSUS SPOT IMPROVEMENTS.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? UH, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DETAILED RECOMMENDATIONS, INCLUDING THE ESTIMATES AND SHOW YOU SOME SKETCHES.
AND THEN HOW CAN GUC COUNTY USE THIS DOCUMENT? SO, AND THEN I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR, UH, QUESTIONS AND, AND REALLY IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, AND YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, WANNA STOP ME THERE, I'M OPEN TO THAT TOO.
UH, SO WITH, THAT'LL JUMP RIGHT IN.
SO THE STUDY SCOPE, CONDUCT A SAFETY ASSESSMENT ALONG ROUTE 6 32 FAIRGROUND ROAD CORRIDOR FROM ROUTE TWO 50, ALL THE WAY TO JUST SHORT OF 5 22.
WE DID NOT INCLUDE THE INTERSECTION OF 5 22 BECAUSE OF THE CURRENT, UH, ROUNDABOUT CONSTRUCTION.
SO THAT WAS ABOUT A 5.1 MILE STUDY, UH, AREA.
SO WE LOOKED AT TWO PRIORITY INTERSECTIONS, ONE BEING MAIDENS AND AT FAIRGROUND, AND THEN ONE BEING BROAD STREET AT FAIRGROUND.
WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS WE GOT TURNING MOVEMENT COUNTS.
THAT IS WHAT WE MEAN BY PRIORITY.
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IS EVERYBODY GOING.UM, AND COMING FROM, FROM THOSE INTERSECTIONS, I'LL BE FRANK, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO A LOT ABOUT BROAD STREET AND FAIRGROUND FOR, BECAUSE, UH, THERE WAS A PROJECT DONE IN THE LAST FIVE OR SO YEARS, UM, AND IT, AND IT REALLY SOLVED A LOT OF PROBLEMS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
AND SO WHEN THE STUDY TEAM REVIEWED IT, UH, THEY DIDN'T IN IDENTIFY ANY MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
OKAY, SO DATA COLLECTION, HISTORICAL DATA AND FIELD REVIEWS ARE USED TO DETERMINE APPROPRIATE IMPROVEMENTS.
THESE INCLUDE, SO TYPE OF DATA IN THE REPORT CRASHES, SO YOUR TYPE, UH, THE DATE IT OCCURRED, SEVERITY, WAS IT AN INJURY, WAS IT A FATALITY? UM, WAS IT JUST A PROPERTY DAMAGE ONLY TYPE OF CRASH? UH, WHERE'S THE LOCATION OF THE CRASH, UH, THE CONDITIONS, WAS THERE WEATHER, UH, SNOW, OR WAS IT AT NIGHTTIME? UM, SO THAT KIND OF THING.
THEN WE LOOK AT, UH, TURNING MOVEMENT COUNTS, LIKE I SAID, AT, UH, THOSE TWO PRIORITY INTERSECTIONS.
WE CONSIDERED EXISTING CONDITIONS, AND WE ALSO CONSIDERED THE FUTURE PROJECTED CONDITIONS, WHICH DID INCLUDE A 1.5, UM, COMPOUND, UM, UH, GROWTH RATE.
SO, AND THAT WAS DONE, UM, EARLY ON IN THE STUDY, UH, WHEN WITH THE TEAM GOT TOGETHER AND WE DETERMINED WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE, UH, GROWTH RATE TO, TO INCLUDE IT AS PART OF THE STUDY.
UH, WE LOOKED AT SPEED AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, AND THEN WE LOOKED AT TURN LANE WARRANTS.
SO THE FIRST ONE YOU SEE HERE IS, UH, UM, CRASH ANALYSIS.
UH, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S MULTIPLE VERSIONS OF THESE CHARTS THROUGHOUT THE REPORT.
UM, WHAT THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY SHOWS IS, UH, THE SEVERITY OF CRASH BASED ON THE COLOR.
SO ORANGE BEING, UH, SUSPECTED SERIOUS INJURY, BLUE BEING PROPERTY DAMAGE ONLY.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE COLORS REPRESENT.
AND THEN IT ALSO SHOWS THE, UH, THE TYPE OF CRASHES AND HOW MANY WE HAD.
SO YOU CAN SEE THERE WAS, UM, ONE RECORDED PEDESTRIAN CRASH.
UH, AND IT IS CORRECT THAT THE CRASH DATA THAT WE PULLED WAS JANUARY, 2017 TO DECEMBER OF 2020.
ONE THING I WILL JUST REMIND EVERYBODY IS WE KICK THIS STUDY OFF BACK IN ROUGHLY, UH, MID-SUMMER OF 2022.
UM, TYPICALLY WHEN WE PULL CRASH DATA, WE CAN GET ABOUT THREE MONTHS PRIOR.
WE CAN TYPICALLY PULL CRASH DATA FROM DECEMBER OF 2022.
SO WE DID CHOOSE TO, UM, USE THE CUTOFF DATE OF DECEMBER, 2021 BASED ON WHEN THE STUDY STARTED BACK IN MID, MID, UH, SUMMERTIME LAST YEAR.
OKAY, SO THIS IS A DATA COLLECTION.
SO WHAT IT SHOWS IS, IS WHAT KIND OF CRASH OCCURRED WHERE ON A MAP, UH, SO THE DIFFERENT SHAPES REPRESENT REAR END COLLISIONS, ANGLE COLLISIONS, UM, RUN OFF THE ROAD AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO THIS GIVES US AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF CRASHES ARE HAPPENING, BUT ALSO GIVES US A REALLY GOOD INDICATION OF CRASH CLUSTERS.
SO YOU CAN SEE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A CRASH CLUSTER AT MAIDEN'S ROAD AND FAIRGROUND, WHICH IS, UM, UH, NOT UNEXPECTED AT ANY INTERSECTION.
UH, WE SEE THAT, WE SEE, UM, CRASH CLUSTERS AT LOTS OF, UH, CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTIONS, INCLUDING SIGNALS, UH, SIGNALIZE INTERSECTIONS.
SO NOT UNEXPECTED, BUT ALSO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO TRY AND ALLEVIATE THAT.
UM, WE COLLECTED SPEED AT, UH, TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ONCE, ONE ON THE WEST SIDE, ONE ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU'LL SEE IN THE CHART IT ACTUALLY, THERE'S AN ERROR.
IT SAYS EAST OF ROUTE 6 34, EAST OF ROUTE 6 34.
BOTH BE ONE SHOULD BE EAST, ONE SHOULD BE WEST.
UM, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU A HIGH LEVEL, UM, WE COLLECTED AN 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED ON THE EASTERN END, WHICH IS A 55 MILE PER HOUR ZONE OF 62 IN THE EASTBOUND DIRECTION, 60 IN THE WESTBOUND DIRECTION.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, CLOSER TO WHERE WE ARE NOW AND THE 45 MILE PER HOUR ZONE, UH, THAT SPEED PROFILE SHOWED AN 85TH OF ABOUT 52 TO 53 MILES PER HOUR.
SO ALSO ON THE FAR RIGHT, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IS, UM, THE PERCENTAGE OF NORMAL VEHICLES, MID, MID-SIZE TRUCKS, AND THEN LARGE HEAVY VEHICLES, UH, TURN LANE WARRANTS.
SO THIS CHART ACTUALLY IS IN THE VDOT ROAD DESIGN MANUAL.
UM, IT PROVIDES, UH, IT'S REALLY OUR TOOL TO IDENTIFY WHEN A, UM, TURN LANE IS WARRANTED, UH, BASED ON VOLUME.
SO, UH, IF YOU SEE ON THE CHART, IT SHOWS OPPOSING VOLUME VERSUS ADVANCING VOLUME.
UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE, UM, PERSON TRYING TO MAKE THE LEFT TO GO SOUTHBOUND ON MAIDENS ROAD WOULD BE THE,
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UH, THE ADVANCING VOLUME AND THE OPPOSING VOLUME WOULD BE FOLKS MOVING, UM, MOVING EAST THAT WOULD RESTRICT THEM FROM MAKING THAT MOVEMENT.SO YOU COLLECT THE VOLUMES IN THE, THE HOUR, THE PEAK HOUR, UH, AND THEN YOU FIND THAT POINT ON THE CHART AND YOU PUT A DOT.
AND IF IT'S OVER THAT LINE THAT SAYS WARRANT, THEN A TURN LANE IS WARRANTED.
SO WE DID HAVE MULTIPLE TURN LANES, UH, WARRANTED THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THE CORRIDOR WHERE THERE ARE NO, UH, TURN LANES TODAY.
ALL RIGHT, SO IMPROVEMENT TIER, UH, I MENTIONED SOMETHING SHORT, MID, AND LONG TERM, UM, IMPROVEMENTS.
SHORT TERM IMPROVEMENTS ARE INTENDED TO BE, UH, IMMEDIATELY IMPLEMENTED.
THINGS INCLUDE VEGETATION, TRIMMING SIGN, UM, YOU KNOW, REPLACEMENTS OR NEW SIGN INSTALLS, UH, AND SPOT PAVEMENT MARKING.
SO LIKE A, LIKE A STOP BAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE DO ON A DAILY BASE WITH MAINTENANCE.
UM, SO WE CONSIDER THESE SHORT AND SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, UM, BELIEVE THAT THE RESIDENCY, UH, CAN DO AT SOME POINT WITH, WITH OUR MAINTENANCE, UH, PROGRAM, UH, MID, UH, TIER IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, UM, AND WE MIGHT NEED SOME TYPE OF FUNDING SOURCE TO, TO ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH THE PROJECT, BUT PERHAPS IT DOESN'T REQUIRE RIGHT OF WAY OR UTILITY IMPACTS.
BUT IT IS A, A LARGE SCALE, UM, TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
UH, THAT WOULD INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE, UM, UH, EDGELINE RUMBLE STRIPS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR, UH, OR LARGE PAVEMENT MARKING IMPROVEMENTS, NEW GUARDRAIL, INSTALLATION SLOPE REGRADING.
UH, AND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS COULD BE FUNDED PERHAPS WITH THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN PRO OR, UH, FUNDS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT ALLOCATION OF MONEY WOULD BE A GOOD TOOL TO ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THESE THINGS.
AND THEN YOUR LONG-TERM IMPROVE IMPROVEMENTS INCLUDE THINGS THAT REQUIRE A PE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PHASE, UH, REQUIRE VERY SPECIFIC FUNDING SOURCE, AND THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THERE IS SOME TYPE OF RIGHT OF WAY OR UTILITY IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT.
THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS INCLUDE TURN LANES.
UH, THERE'S A ROUNDABOUT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE SHOWING, UM, AND A LARGE SCALE TRENCH WIDENING, WHICH IS A SHOULDER, IT'S TRENCH WIDENING, SHOULDER WIDENING, INTERCHANGEABLE, UH, DESCRIPTION.
AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT LATER.
I HAVE SOME PICTURES TO SHOW YOU WHAT THAT MEANS.
SO THE TEARS ARE KIND OF INTERTWINED ON THE SKETCHES.
UH, SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS WHEN YOU SEE THESE SKETCHES, YOU'LL SEE SOMETHING THAT SAYS, UH, A ROUNDABOUT OR, OR A TURN LANE, BUT ALSO IT SHOWS VEGETATION, UM, REMOVAL, RIGHT? SO THE VEGETATION, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO IMMEDIATELY, NOT NECESSARILY A ROUNDABOUT.
SO, UM, JUST WANT A TOTAL DISCLAIMER THAT THOSE THINGS ARE ON THE SAME SKETCHES, BUT, UH, THEY ARE DIFFERENTIATED IN OUR ESTIMATES THAT HAVE ALSO INCLUDED.
OKAY, LAST THING ABOUT THE TIERS.
SO SPOT VERSUS A CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT.
SPOT IMPROVEMENT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE TURN LANES AND ROUNDABOUTS.
THAT'S ONE PARTICULAR LOCATION, WHETHER IT'S AT MAIDENS, WHETHER IT'S AT BROAD STREET, UM, AND FAIRGROUND, UH, PARTICULARLY, OR POINTING OUT ONE PARTICULAR INTERSECTION OR ONE PARTICULAR SPOT, WHEREAS A CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENT IS MORE SYSTEMIC.
UH, AND YOU CONSIDER RUMBLE STRIPS, SHOULDER WIDENING, TREE TRIMMING.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR AS ONE PROJECT.
SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SPOT VERSUS CORRIDOR OR SYSTEMIC PROJECTS.
OKAY? SO THE FIRST, UH, DETAILED RECOMMENDATION THAT IS PART OF THE REPORT INCLUDES, UH, PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND SIGNAGE UPDATES.
UH, THIS IS TO, I MENTIONED EARLIER, INSTALL WARNING ADVISORY SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR STOP BARS, TRANSVERSE RUMBLE STRIPS.
TRANSVERSE RUMBLE STRIPS ARE DIFFERENT THAN YOUR EDGELINE RUMBLES.
TRANSVERSE RUMBLES ARE SOMETHING THAT ARE GONNA BE ACROSS THE PAVEMENT, SO THAT WHEN YOU APPROACH IT, YOU HIT IT DA, AND IT'S TELLING YOU TO DO SOMETHING SUCH AS LIKE, SLOW DOWN, YOU'RE APPROACHING A STOP SIGN.
OKAY? SO THAT'S WHAT A TRANSVERSE RUMBLE IS.
UM, THIS IS ONE SKETCH OF, UH, AN IDEA OR ONE PARTICULAR LOCATION.
UM, THIS IS AT THE, JUST, UH, WEST OR EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 5 22.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE'S, UM, A SIGN THAT'S, UM, BEING RECOMMENDED TO BE INSTALLED.
THERE'S SOME TRANSVERSE RUMBLE STRIPS, UH, ABOUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE.
IT'S HARD FOR THE FOLKS BEHIND US TO SEE.
UM, BUT THAT'S THERE, UH, DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE PURPLE AND THE BLUE LINES QUITE YET.
LIKE I SAID, INTERTWINING THE DIFFERENT, UH, TIERS.
THAT IS MORE OF A MID TO LONG TERM SOLUTION THAT SHOWS UP ON THE SKETCH.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME TREE TRIMMING THAT'S CALLED OUT IN THE, UH, IN, UM, TEXT.
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UH, THE ESTIMATE THAT WAS DELIVERED BY KITTLESON WAS ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.UH, THE RESIDENCY, OUR GROUP BELIEVES THAT, UM, TO ACCOMPLISH THESE IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR, UH, IT CAN DO IT FOR SOMETHING MORE ALLOW OR AROUND THE, UM, LIMITS OF $35,000, UH, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO, UM, WITH ROUTINE MAINTENANCE REGARDLESS.
SO, ALL RIGHT, SO INSTALLATION OF A LEFT TURN LANE AT HAWK TOWN ROAD.
UH, WE'RE GONNA PRO WELL RECOMMENDING, UH, PROVIDING A LEFT TURN LANE AT THE, ON THE FAIRGROUND ROAD EASTBOUND APPROACH.
UH, THERE'S ALSO SOME INCIDENTAL PAVEMENT MARKINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THE TURN LANE CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO, UM, SOME MINOR PAVEMENT MARKINGS THAT ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE TURN LANE.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE SHORT, UH, SHORT TERM, UH, TIER IMPROVEMENTS.
SO YOU'RE COMING, UH, FROM 5 22, APPROACHING THE INTERSECTION, HAWK TOWN, AND INSTALLING A 400 FOOT TURN LANE, 200 FEET OF TAPER AND 200 FEET OF STORAGE.
UM, THIS WOULD PROBABLY REQUIRE SOME TYPE OF RIGHT OF WAY, UH, IN UTILITY, UH, RELOCATION AT SOME POINT.
UM, AND THERE'S AN ESTIMATE OF ABOUT $930,000.
I WILL TELL YOU THESE ESTIMATES THAT YOU'RE SEEING ARE TODAY DOLLARS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU APPLY FOR, FOR FUNDING THROUGH, UM, SOME TYPE OF, UH, FUNDING STREAM, WHETHER IT BE SMART SCALE OR REVENUE SHARING, YOU KNOW, THESE PROJECTS MIGHT TAKE A COUPLE YEARS TO, TO DEVELOP AND THEN A YEAR TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION OR WHATEVER YOU HAVE IT.
UM, BUT SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO INFLATE THESE ESTIMATES, UH, FOR WHATEVER TYPE OF FUNDING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LOCALITY WOULD MAYBE PURSUE.
SO THERE'S TWO OPTIONS HERE, TWO RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, THE FIRST ONE INCLUDES PROVIDING LEFT TURN LANES, UM, IN BOTH DIRECTION ON FAIRGROUND ROAD, AND THEN ONE RIGHT TURN LANE, UM, HEADING NORTHBOUND ON MAIDEN'S, APPROACHING THE INTERSECTION, THE ESTIMATED CONSTRUCTION OF THAT, UH, INCLUDING PE RIGHT OF WAY AND, UH, AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
SO EVERYTHING IS ABOUT 1.6 MILLION.
OPTION TWO IS A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT.
UH, THIS CONVERTS THE CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION INTO, UM, A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT THAT LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND THAT PROJECT BASED ON TODAY'S DOLLARS IS ESTIMATED TO COST ABOUT $3.6 MILLION.
ALL RIGHT, SO ROUNDABOUTS, I FIGURED IT'S A GOOD TIME TO JUST SAY, HEY, WHY, WHY ROUNDABOUTS,
SO, UH, IMPROVE SAFETY AT THE INTERSECTION.
UM, IT REDUCES COLLISION POINTS AT A, AT A CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION.
THERE ARE 32 COLLISION POINTS.
THAT IS WHERE ONE VEHICLE IS MOVING IN ONE DIRECTION AND ANOTHER VEHICLE MAKES AN OPPOSING MOVEMENT, AND THEY CAN COLLIDE, WHETHER IT BE HEAD ON, WHETHER IT BE AN ANGLE CRASH, A T-BONE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, THERE ARE 32 OF THOSE WITH A ROUNDABOUT.
AND THOSE EIGHT THERE, THERE'S ACTUALLY TWO, BUT THERE'RE TWO AT EACH QUADRANT.
IT, IT IS A REAR END COLLISION, UM, AT LOW SPEEDS, WHICH I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT.
AND A SIDE SWIPE WHEN SOMEONE IS IN THE ROUNDABOUT AND SOMEONE IS YIELDING INTO THE ROUNDABOUT.
UH, THOSE ARE YOUR TWO COLLISION POINTS AT ALL FOUR QUADRANTS.
SO IT'S EIGHT TOTAL COLLISION POINTS, SO FOUR TIMES LESS, UH, CONFLICT POINTS.
SO INCREASED SUFFICIENCY, FEWER STOPS AND DELAYS, AND SHORTER QUEUING, UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, UM, PROMOTES SAFER OR SLOWER SPEEDS.
UH, WE ACTUALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, ANYTHING ON MY SLIDES RIGHT NOW, BUT I DID, UH, A STUDY ON A, UM, COUPLE DIFFERENT ROUNDABOUTS IN NEW KENT.
AND WE SHOWED WHERE THERE WAS, UH, CRASHES BEFORE A ROUNDABOUT WERE IMPLEMENTED.
UM, THE SPEED DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN VEHICLES WAS SOMEWHERE AROUND LIKE 25 TO 30 MILES PER HOUR.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS ONE VEHICLE WAS MOVING AT 45 MILES PER HOUR, AND ONE VEHICLE WAS ENTERING THE INTERSECTION AT 10 TO 15 MILES PER HOUR, AND THEY COLLIDED HUGE SPEED DIFFERENTIAL.
WHAT YOU SEE AT ROUNDABOUTS IS THAT SPEED DIFFERENTIAL DROPS TO ABOUT FIVE TO 10 MILES PER HOUR.
YOU SEE A VEHICLE ENTERING THE ROUNDABOUT AT 25 TO 30 MAYBE, AND YOU HAVE SOMEONE IN THE ROUNDABOUT AT 10 TO 15 MILES PER HOUR.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THESE COLLISIONS THAT HAPPEN WITHIN THE ROUNDABOUT ARE TYPICALLY MUCH LESS, UM, YOU
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KNOW THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF INJURIES, THEY'RE MUCH MORE, UH, PROPERTY DAMAGE ONLY TYPE OF CRASHES.SO, UH, THE SAFE, THE SLOWER IN THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DON'T CHANGE THE SPEED LIMIT IN THE ROUNDABOUT, IT IS THE GEOMETRY OF THE ROUNDABOUT THAT FORCES PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN.
SO THAT, THAT ROUNDABOUT REALLY ACTS AS A, A NATURAL SLEE OR A SPEED, UM, SLOWER.
UM, SO LONG-TERM COST EFFECTIVENESS, YOU CAN IMAGINE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL HAS ELECTRICITY BILLS TO PAY, UM, AND YOU GOTTA MAINTAIN THE MASKED ARMS AND THE POLES.
UH, THEY, THEY DO HAVE LONGER, UM, COST OPERATIONALLY AND TO MAINTAIN, UM, AESTHETICALLY ROUNDABOUTS GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BEAUTIFY THE AREA, UM, MAKE IT PRETTIER, UH, PROVIDE A GATEWAY, UH, TO A, TO A COMMUNITY.
AND THEN THE LAST THING THAT WE DON'T ADVERTISE ON OUR WEBSITE, BUT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IS THERE'S NO SIGNAL WARRANT, UM, REQUIRED WHEN YOU'RE GONNA INSTALL A ROUNDABOUT.
SO, UH, CONVENTIONAL INTERSECTION BEFORE YOU CAN EVER PUT A SIGNAL UP, IT HAS TO MEET ONE OF NINE WARRANTS, UM, THAT ARE LAID OUT IN THE M U T C D.
AND THOSE ARE BASED ON VOLUMES.
AND THE INTERSECTION, AT, PARTICULARLY AT MAIDEN'S AND FAIRGROUND, DOESN'T ACTUALLY MEET THE VOLUME WARRANTS FOR, UH, FOR A SIGNAL.
UM, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR, FOR VOLUME WARRANTS TO INSTALL A ROUNDABOUT.
SO I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY ADDED BONUS FOR A ROUNDABOUT.
SO I HAVE THIS, THIS IS A VIDEO, UM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO START IT.
IT BASICALLY COVERS EVERYTHING THAT, UM, THAT I, I STATED, UM, ON THE LAST SLIDE.
UH, BUT IT IS, IT IS A NICE VIDEO.
IT SHOWS, UM, YOU KNOW, A GRAPHIC OF OF PEOPLE MOVING THROUGH A ROUNDABOUT, UM, PEDESTRIANS NAVIGATING THE ROUNDABOUT.
SO IF YOU GET A CHANCE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO WATCH IT.
UH, NEXT I HAVE SHOULDER WIDENING AND RUMBLE STRIPS.
SO I SAID I WOULD TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT LATER.
UM, WE'RE SHOWING THAT, UH, CORRIDOR WIDE, THAT PROJECT IS ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT 3 MILLION.
UM, WHAT THAT IS, SHOULDER WIDENING IS TAKING THE EXISTING GRAVEL SHOULDER ONE FOOT TO TWO FOOT AND CUTTING IT OUT AND REPLACING THE GRAVEL SHOULDER WITH A ASPHALT SHOULDER ALLOWS YOU TO WIDEN THE ROAD.
YOU'RE NOT WIDENING THE TRAVEL LANE, YOU'RE JUST TAKING THE EXISTING SHOULDER AND REPLACING GRAVEL WITH ASPHALT.
IT'S EASIER TO MAINTAIN, BUT IT'S ALSO MUCH SAFER IF PEOPLE LEAVE THE, THE, UM, TRAVEL WAY INSTEAD OF HITTING, UM, GRAVEL, THEY STAY RIGHT ON ASPHALT AND IT ALLOWS MORE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOVER.
AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU CAN INSTALL WHAT WE CALL EDGELINE RUMBLE STRIPS, WHICH I DON'T HAVE A PIC.
UM, AND IT LOOKS SOMETHING LIKE THAT PICTURE ON THE RIGHT, THAT IS AN EDGELINE RUMBLE.
YOU CAN'T, OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN'T PUT THAT ON GRAVEL, UM, BUT YOU CAN PUT IT ON ASPHALT.
SO THE TWO PICTURES ON THE LEFT IS, UM, A ROAD IN NEW KENT THAT, UH, WAS ACTUALLY SHOULDER WIDENED OR TRENCH WIDENED BY A FOOT ON EITHER SIDE.
IT TOOK THE EXISTING PAVEMENT FROM ABOUT 18 FEET TO ABOUT 20 FEET.
UM, THEY DID NOT INCLUDE ANY KIND OF RUMBLE STRIPS, BUT, UM, WITH A ROAD LIKE FAIRGROUND, HEY, THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE.
SO THERE ARE, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS WITH RUMBLE STRIPS THAT, UM, I SHOULD MENTION.
UH, YOU DO RUN INTO ISSUES WITH NOISE.
UM, AND THAT'S ONE THING THAT IF WE EVER DECIDED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TYPE OF PROJECT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WERE, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN DOING BECAUSE, UM, THE FOLKS THAT LIVE OUT THERE WOULD LIKELY HEAR IT.
SO WHAT RUMBLE STRIPS DO, I WOULD SAY THIS CAVEAT IS THEY DO WAKE PEOPLE UP WHEN THEY'RE ABOUT TO LEAVE THE TRAVEL WAY.
UM, AND IT DOES HELP PREVENT SOME OF THESE RUN OFF THE ROAD COLLISIONS INTO TREES, WHICH CAN BE VERY BAD COLLISIONS.
AND I, I SKIPPED A BUNCH OF SLIDES THAT WAS REALLY JUST SHOWING THE SAME THING, THE SAME SKETCH, AND JUST THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR.
ALL RIGHT, SO HOW CAN GIN UTILIZE THIS DOCUMENT? UH, IT'S REALLY A, A DOCUMENT.
IT'S A STUDY THAT IDENTIFY, TAKES DATA AND THEN COLLECTS THAT DATA.
AND WE PROVIDED RECOMMENDATIONS.
THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT, THERE IS NO, UM, COMMITMENT FROM GUC LAND TO, TO COMPLETE ANY OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT IS JUST THEY ARE RECOMMENDATIONS AT FACE VALUE.
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SO, BUT WHAT IT DOES DO IS IT, UH, IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL ON THE CORRIDOR, WHAT MIGHT SCORE WELL IN A COMPETITIVE, UM, APPLICATION PROCESS.UM, AND IT ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO PRIORITIZE THOSE PROJECTS.
SO SPEAKING OF APPLICATION SUBMITTALS, MANY, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST ABOUT ANY PROJECT YOU DO, UM, OF NEW CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA REQUIRE, UH, SOME TYPE OF FUNDING.
AND MOST OF THESE FUNDINGS, REVENUE SHARING, SMART SCALE, EVEN THE CVT A REGIONAL PROGRAM, THEY ALL REQUIRE APPLICATIONS, UM, FOR FUNDING.
AND THOSE APPLICATIONS INCLUDE REQUIREMENTS FOR SCOPE, SCHEDULE, ESTIMATE, AND A SKETCH.
SO WHAT THIS REPORT DOES IT, IT GIVES YOU THREE OF THOSE THINGS.
IT GIVES YOU THE SCOPE, THE ESTIMATE, AND THE SKETCH.
UM, IT GIVES YOU SOMEWHERE TO START.
YOU'RE NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
YOU CAN GO INTO SMART SCALE AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT WE ARE INTERESTED IN THAT PROJECT HERE IS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, 75% OF THE LEGWORK ALREADY DONE.
UM, AND THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE THE PROJECT IS GONNA COST BACK IN 2023.
UM, NOW IT'S 2024, IT MIGHT COST A LITTLE BIT MORE BY, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLYING INFLATION, BUT IT GIVES YOU SOMEWHERE TO START.
SO WE'RE NOT STARTING AT ZERO.
AND THEN LAND USE, UM, IT'S, IT'S A TOOL FOR THE BOARD TO MAKE WHEN, WHEN, YOU KNOW, MAKING LAND USE DECISIONS, IS THERE THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE, UM, AS PART OF A LAND USE DECISION OR A ZONING CASE THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THECA OR IN THE STUDY.
UM, SO YOU GUYS CAN USE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AT IT'S AT YOUR DISPOSAL FOR HOWEVER YOU NEED TO USE IT.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I BELIEVE THAT'S IT.
UM, THAT'S THE STUDY IN A NUTSHELL.
UH, I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UM, GO INTO MORE DETAIL IF I CAN.
I, I, I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST PRESENTATION OF HEARD FROM VNET WHERE I UNDERSTOOD LIKE 99.9% OF IT.
SO VER VERY WELL DONE BOSTON IN HERE.
UM, SO BOARD, WHAT QUESTIONS DO, DO WE HAVE AT THIS POINT, MR. BOERS? UM, IF WE GO TO THE DATA COLLECTION CRASH ANALYSIS SITE, UM, OR SLIDES, I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM.
SO THOSE ARE, SORRY, THAT'S, WE GOTTA GO WAY BACK.
I JUST WANT, I, I REALLY WANT TO JUST GET CONFIRMATION, SO SURE.
THE, THOSE ANALYTICS ARE FIVE YEARS, FIVE FULL YEARS OF REVIEW, CORRECT? SO, SO SOME OF THEM ARE, UM, LIKE THE CRASH DATA IS, IS FIVE YEAR DATA.
THESE ARE, THIS IS FIVE YEAR DATA.
THIS IS FROM JANUARY, 2017 TO DECEMBER OF 2021.
UM, WHAT IS NOT A FIVE YEAR DATA IS SPEED.
UH, SO, SO IF, IF WE GO BACK TWO SLIDES, UM, YEP.
THE, THE ONLY THING THAT'S HARD TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS IS ARE THESE ABNORMALLY HIGH? I MEAN, HOW DO THESE RE RELATE TO COMPS YOU SEE IN YOUR ANALYSIS AND ANALYSIS FROM VDOT? YEAH, AND I, I, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T HAVE THE, UM, THE RATES ON ME RIGHT NOW.
WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK AT RATES.
WE CAN, UH, WHAT WE DO IS WE LOOK AT PER A HUNDRED MILLION MILES MM-HMM.
AND WE CAN IDENTIFY A CRASH RATE AND A, UM, INJURY RATE, UH, PER, THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO BRING EVERYTHING INTO EQUILIBRIUM.
SO YOU CAN BASICALLY COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES.
YOU CAN TAKE, YOU KNOW, INCIDENTS OR CRASHES THAT HAPPENED ON 64 AND COMPARE 'EM TO, UH, CRASHES THAT HAPPENED ON FAIRGROUND.
I DON'T WANNA COMMIT TO IT CUZ I'M NOT 100% SURE IT'S, BUT UM, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK AT.
TO THE EXTENT IT CAN BE, THAT'D BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL.
AND THEN THE NEXT, THE NEXT SLIDE, I JUST WANTED TO GET A, A SECOND CONFIRMATION.
PEOPLE CAN SEE A DIAGRAM LIKE THAT AS A POINT IN TIME.
IT'S A
MR. FRAZIER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY, UM, THE QUESTION CAME UP ABOUT, UH, DICKINSON ROAD AND FAIRGROUND.
UM, AND TONIGHT WE HEARD, AND I THINK ABOUT IT, IS, UM, THE ANIMAL SHELTER, HIDDEN ROCK PARK AND FAIRGROUND ROAD.
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SO IF YOU'RE SAYING, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK, BUT IT'S AT THE END THE GO, WHAT CAN GUC AND DO WITH THIS AND IT'S SET PRIORITIES? WELL, WE DECIDE WE DON'T WANT THOSE PRIORITIES.IT'S NOT IN THIS STUDY, THERE'S NO REASON WE COULDN'T DO THAT.
THAT'S, THAT IS, THAT IS TOTALLY THE BOARD'S PREROGATIVE.
YOU, YOU ARE NOT COMMITTED OR REQUIRED TO DO ANYTHING IN THIS STUDY.
UM, THAT IS, THAT IS NOT THE INTENT.
BECAUSE IT, AND HAVE DID THIS PLAN, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE SECOND QUESTION, DID THIS PLAN AND REALLY, I GUESS HAVEN'T EVEN PUBLISHED OUR VILLAGE STUDIES YET, STUDY YET BEING REVAMPED AND REDONE.
SO HOW DID, SO THAT DIDN'T EVEN PLAY INTO THIS.
RIGHT? SO THE TRAFFIC'S COMING THROUGH THERE FOR IT WAS A GROWTH, IT WAS PRETTY LIMITED.
I MEAN, WE USED, WE USED KNOWLEDGE OF THE VILLAGE STUDY TO HELP, UM, DEVELOP OUR, OUR GROWTH RATE AT 1.5%.
THE, THE VILLAGE STUDY DID NOT GET, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
AND, AND LOOKING AT IT NOW, PROBABLY BASED ON JUST THE, THE PROJECTS THAT ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, UM, IN THE COURTHOUSE AREA, PROBABLY 1.5 IS PRETTY LOW, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU NOW THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT IT.
CUZ WE HAVE QUITE A FEW HOMES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, EVEN WITHOUT THE VILLAGE STUDY.
SO THAT ONE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OUTTA WHACK, BUT ANYWAY.
SO FOLLOWING UP ON WHAT, UM, THIS LAST QUE JUST ASK YOU AND TALK ABOUT NOT COMMITTED TO DOING ANYTHING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, LET ME ORGANIZE MY THOUGHTS A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I, IT'S IMPORTANT.
UH, I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS WE HAVE IS, UH, IF WE, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE GOTTEN AN EMAIL, AND I THINK IT WAS ALLUDED TO TONIGHT, UM, WHAT IS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF US APPROVING THIS IF WE SAY YES, WE APPROVE IT? AND WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, YOU TALKED ABOUT SCORING.
WELL, AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE CHALLENGE THAT THIS REGION HAS RIGHT NOW IS, YOU KNOW, THE SMART SCALE.
HOW DO, HOW DO WE SCORE? WELL, SO IF, AND I AND I TWO QUESTION THE 1.5% GROWTH RATE, AND I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT YOUR BASIS FOR THAT, BUT MAYBE WE CAN SKIP THAT.
IF YOU CAN TELL ME THAT IF YOU'D HAVE PLUGGED IN 6%, WOULD THAT CHANGE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, PLUG IN A MUCH HIGHER NUMBER, SIX, 8%? WOULD THAT CHANGE THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE STUDY? OH, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN COMMIT TO THAT.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF THE, THE, UM, TURN LANE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE MADE.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU, I MEAN, MAYBE IT BECOMES, SO THE 1.5% IS SIGNIFICANT TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IN HERE.
SO IF WE, AGAIN, IF WE APPROVE THIS AND WE TALKED ABOUT NOT BEING COMMITTED TO ANYTHING AND WE WANNA DO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT IF THIS STUDY'S IN PLACE, WE ACCEPT IT AND THEN WE GO AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE QUESTION THAT 1.5% OR, OR, OR I DON'T WANT THIS APPROVING THIS AND THAT 1.5% TO BAKE IN THAT WE'RE NOW GOING TO SCORE POORLY BECAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.5% WHEN THE REALITY IS SOMETHING QUITE DIFFERENT.
AND I, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S, UM, KEY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHETHER YOU GUYS APPROVE IT OR YOU ACCEPT IT, UM, AS WRITTEN.
UH, YOU KNOW, I I GUESS AT THIS POINT, THE DEPARTMENT IS NOT EXPECTING TO, YOU KNOW, IF IT GETS DECLINED OR NOT APPROVED TO TAKE IT BACK AND RERUN THE REPORT AT A 6% GROWTH RATE.
UM, THAT IS, THAT IS NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE EXPECTATION OF THE SURE.
SO IF DEPARTMENT WE APPROVE THIS OR WE, I I JUST WANT, I, I WOULD REJECT THIS AND SAY, LET'S WAIT UNTIL WE GET FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD AND, AND, AND WE'LL CHECK BEHIND YOU OR, OR, BECAUSE IF, IF THE 1.5% IS OFF AND WE ACCEPT THIS AND WE'RE STUCK WITH IT, THAT'S GONNA REALLY MESS US UP ON SCORING.
I, I'M NOT SURE HOW CAN YOU EX I I I'M NOT FOLLOWING THAT LOGIC.
SO BASED ON THE CURRENT, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S 1.5% NUMBER, MAYBE THE QUESTION IS CAN WE GROUND THAT NUMBER? BUT I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
I I I DON'T SEE HOW IT WOULD, IF WE GO, IF WE SUBMIT AND, AND THE 1.5 WE'RE STUCK WITH THAT 1.5% GROWTH.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S AN ACCURATE ASSUMPTION.
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M ASKING.
ARE WE STUCK WITH THAT 1.5% GROWTH, SAY IN, IN TWO YEARS WE DECIDE RIGHT.
TO PURSUE AN APPLICATION? SURE.
SO IF WE CAN JUST FOCUS ON PERHAPS THE ROUNDABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE COUNTY WANTED TO SAY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS OUR EFFORTS ON, WE'VE GOTTA, WE'VE GOT A BASIS, UM, WITH THE ROUNDABOUT, LET'S RERUN THE OPERATIONAL ANALYSIS AT A 6%, UM, GROWTH RATE OVER, OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS.
UM, THAT'S THE PREROGATIVE OF THE COUNTY.
AND YOU MAY GET SOMETHING THAT THAT SUPPORTS, UM, EVEN MORE NEED FOR, UM, AN IMPROVEMENT AT THE INTERSECTION.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU DECIDE YOU'RE GONNA USE 6%, IT NEEDS TO BE FOUNDED ON FACT AND, AND
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APPROVED DEVELOPMENT.AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S GOTTA BE JUSTIFIABLE.
SO, BUT YOU'RE TELLING ME THE 1.5% GROWTH RATE THAT Y'ALL USE STUDY THAT'S BASED IN FACT.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING AS A, AS A TEAM THAT, UM, WE ALL CAME TOGETHER AND WE USED, IT'S, IT'S IN THE REPORT IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, USING HISTORICAL GROWTH, UM, AND IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, APPROVED.
UM, SO WHO WAS, WHO'S THE TEAM? UH, SO IT WAS A COLLABORATION BETWEEN GUC AND COUNTY, UH, THE ASHLAND RESIDENCY AT VDOT, UM, THE RICHMOND DISTRICT TRAFFIC ENGINEERING GROUP AT VDOT, AND THEN KITTLESON AND ASSOCIATES AND AR K AND K UH, CONSULTANTS.
AND SO WHEN, SO OUR GUC AND REPRESENTATIVES, WE HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENTS IN, IN THIS AREA.
THAT, THAT, THAT'S IN, THAT'S FACTORED IN.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, IF, IF WE GET TWO YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS TIME TO, YOU KNOW, SAY WE FOCUSED ON ONE THING OR WE'RE READY TO FOCUS ON ONE THING, WE CAN GO BACK, MAYBE NOT HAVE VDOT PAY FOR IT, BUT WE CAN GO BACK, GET OUR FACTS TOGETHER TO, BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME IF WE HAVE A 6% GROWTH, THEN THAT'S GONNA HELP US SCORE TO, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK IF WE, IF WE CAN SHOW GROWTH IS HIGHER, THEN THAT'S GOING TO SUPPORT, I THINK A BETTER SCORE SCORE.
BUT I THINK, SO I THINK WE'VE HAD A PROCEDURAL SORT OF KERFUFFLE, CAN I SAY THAT FROM THE DAY? JUST DID, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING OF THIS APPROVAL OF DENIAL ACTUALLY MEANS SOMETHING AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF WE DENIED THIS AND THERE'S A NEW BOARD HERE NEXT YEAR, THEY SAY, HEY, WELL WE HAVE THIS STUDY THAT WAS DONE THAT WAS DENIED.
WILL YOU ACCEPT THIS INFORMATION? PHILIP, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? I'D SAY THE STUDY STILL STANDS, IT'S THE SAME STUDY.
I, I THINK IT WAS MORE OF A PROCEDURAL ISSUE.
SO I, I WILL, I WILL KIND OF COMPARE IT TO A SPEED STUDY.
WHEN VDOT DOES A SPEED STUDY, UM, THE REQUEST MIGHT BE TO CHANGE THE SPEED LIMIT ON ROUTE SIX FROM 55 MILES PER HOUR TO 45 MILES PER HOUR.
AND IT IS, UM, WE'VE DONE THAT A COUPLE TIMES AND EVERY SINGLE TIME, THE MOST PART WE'VE COME BACK AND SAID THE, WE RECOMMEND THE SPEED LIMIT BE RETAINED AT 55 MILES PER HOUR.
UM, THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY, UM, ACCEPTED OR EVEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
UH, IN MANY WAYS IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD, UM, HAS DISAGREED WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT OF THE STUDY AND WHY WE MADE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MADE SO.
WELL, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, I GUESS I'M FOCUSED ON THE PROCEDURE, BUT I DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BOX US IN TO ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE ARE STUCK WITH WHEN WE GO TO APPLY.
UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, I THINK MORE GROWTH, 6% GROWTH NUMBER, THE WAY I UNDERSTAND SMART SCALE, I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT REVENUE SHARING.
IF, IF THIS, IF THIS WAS AKIN TO A REPORT FROM THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AND I SAID THIS IS, THIS IS JUST THE REPORT THERE, THERE'S NO PROCEDURAL.
I I CAN'T SEE HOW THIS BOX DOESN'T, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
NO, I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE THIS.
YEAH, I GOT ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
AND FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, MY NAME'S AUSTIN, I'M THE TRANSPORTATION MANAGER HERE WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, WHEN WE GO FOR, LET'S TAKE THE ROUNDABOUT FOR EXAMPLE, AT MAIDENS, IF WE WERE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD FOR, SAY, A SMART SCALE APPLICATION, WE'D HAVE TO UPDATE THE COUNTS THEN ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE THE MOST RECENT DATA.
SO IF THE VILLAGE PLAN GETS APPROVED, SAY LATE SPRING, EARLY SUMMER THIS YEAR, WE WOULD HAVE SOME NEW FACTUAL DATA TO THEN MOVE FORWARD.
SO I, I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY SAY THE STUDY'S BOXING US IN.
WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET OUT OF IT IS BOARD ACCEPTANCE.
THAT WILL HELP US MOSTLY IN SOME LAND USE DECISIONS AS WE SEE GROWTH ALONG THE CORRIDOR THAT, HEY, IF YOUR GROWTH HITS A CERTAIN POINT WHERE WE'RE SEEING THESE COUNTS, SAY AT MAINTENANCE ROAD AND IT TRIPS THE NEED NEED FOR SAID ROUNDABOUT, THAT'S, IT'S GONNA AID US IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH DEVELOPERS.
BUT MR. GOEN, DO YOU ACTUALLY NEED OUR ACCEPTANCE TO DO THAT? IT JUST AID STAFF IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE IT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT OF AMMO, IF YOU WILL, IN, IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE DEVELOPERS.
CUZ THE, THE, THE STUDIES, AGAIN, IT APPROVAL OR DENIAL DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING, QUOTE UNQUOTE SO, SO TO SPEAK AS FAR AS V OTS CONCERNED.
BUT IT PROVIDES THAT THE BOARD HAS REVIEWED THE FINDINGS, THEY'VE, THEY'VE SEEN THE STUDY AND IT PROVIDES SOME, THE, THE BOARD HAS MORE OR LESS ACCEPTED THIS AS A LEGITIMATE STUDY.
THERE'S THERE, IT'S, IT'S GROUNDED IN FACTS AND IT IT IT WILL PROVIDE, UH, U USEFUL INFORMATION MOVING FORWARD.
I I, I WOULD, I I DON'T THINK THE, I DON'T MR I'M NOT SURE I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE MAKING THAT STATEMENT.
I'M COMFORTABLE SAYING, YES, MR. FRAZIER WAS HERE AND PRESENTED A STUDY TO US.
UM, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
I'LL, I'LL, I HAVE ONE JUST SHIFTING GEARS A LITTLE BIT.
SOME, SOME OF THE EMAILS AND MESSAGES WE'VE GOTTEN, UM, FROM, I, I THINK PEOPLE ALONG THE CORRIDOR ARE CONCERNED THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DO, TO PROVIDE INPUT.
UM, HOW DO YOU, IS THERE EVER A SITUATION, UH, WOULD YOU NORMALLY, IF YOU DO THIS KIND OF CORRIDOR STUDY, DO YOU SOMETIMES, UH, TRY TO ENGAGE PEOPLE ALONG
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THE CORRIDOR TO UM, SURE.SO IT, HONESTLY, IT JUST DEPENDS.
WE DO HAVE, WE DO COMPLETE, UM, STUDIES, UH, THAT HAVE A PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT PHASE WHERE WE PUT OUT A SURVEY AND PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE ABLE TO CHIME IN AND SAY WHAT THEY BELIEVE THE THE BIGGEST NEED ALONG A ROAD MAY BE.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO DO, UM, A MUCH SMALLER, LIGHTER VERSION OF A STUDY THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE A PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT.
UM, AND THIS WAS A SMALLER, LIGHTER VERSION? YES, SIR.
MR. FRAZIER, COULD YOU SPEAK TO, IS IT TYPICAL WHEN YOU SEND A REPORT LIKE THIS TO COME INTO A PRESENTATION AND FOR, TO COME TO THE BOARD? NO, THIS IS, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE TO DO IT.
I THINK IT'S A REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO, TO SHOW YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WAS DONE IN THE LAST SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS.
CUZ I KNOW MARSHALL HAS COME UP HERE AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THIS STUDY.
UM, BUT, BUT NO, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NECESSARILY DONE, UM, REGULARLY AT ALL.
AND EVEN WITH SOME OF THE LARGER STUDIES.
AND, AND THE REASON WE MOVED IT TO THIS SECTION, THIS IS TYPICALLY OUR BETTER TENDED SESSION.
WE WANTED THE, WE WANTED THE PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY TO SEE IT AND KNOW THAT WE ARE WORKING ON THIS.
I'VE SAID SEVERAL TIMES, EVEN THOUGH MOST THIS WASN'T IN MY DISTRICT WHEN I WAS ASKED, THIS IS THE ROAD I GET THE QUESTIONS ON.
SO THIS IS TO ME A STARTING POINT, UM, FOR US TO GO.
AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE WHOLE TEAM DID TO PUT INTO IT.
MS. MCGEE HAS, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, UM, FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT SOME OF THE PROCESS DISCUSSIONS, UM, I THINK THE BOARD HAS TWO OPTIONS FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD FROM BOTH THE BOARD'S CONCERNS AND FIDO'S ACCEPTANCE.
AND THAT IS THAT THIS REPORT COULD BE RECEIVED BY THE BOARD OR IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE BOARD DOESN'T NEED TO TAKE AN ACTION AT ALL.
BUT I THINK EITHER ONE OF THOSE MAY BE CLOSER TO, UH, SOMETHING ACCEPTABLE AT, AT ONE OR THE OTHERS, JUST A RECOMMENDATION ON PROCESS.
SO PROCEDURALLY, AND I'LL LOOK TO ACTUALLY MY PROLETARIAN, IF, IF I WERE TO ASK FOR A MOTION, NO MOTION WAS MADE, IT WOULD JUST DIE ON THE TABLE.
WELL, AND THE REPORT WE RECEIVED, IT'S IN THE PUBLIC RECORD.
SO, BUT IF I DO WANT TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY, IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, FOR MR. FRAZIER, I DO HAVE A QUESTION IF, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, TO, TO MR. LUMPKIN'S PER, UH, QUESTION.
AND, AND I THINK WE HEARD FROM ONE OF OUR CITIZENS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE TRAFFIC DATA IS A LITTLE DATED FOR, UH, REASONS OF, YOU KNOW, TIMING IT.
THIS WASN'T A REPORT THAT GOT TURNED AROUND IN TWO WEEKS.
SO ARE WE ABLE, OR IS VITA TO SAY, HEY, NOW THAT WE HAVE THE 2022 TRAFFIC DATA AND WE ADD THAT TO IT, IS THAT SOMETHING OUR STAFF CAN DO IN COM, WORK WITH YOU? SO THAT, THAT ONE SLIDE THAT MR. VADER'S, UM, REFERENCED CAN BE MORE, GIVE US A BETTER PICTURE.
UH, I, I PERSONALLY CAN PULL, UM, CRASH DATA FOR THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR, UM, FOR JUST THE YEAR OF 2022.
AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO MAKE IT AN ADDENDUM TO THE REPORT, BUT IT CAN DEFINITELY BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHARE, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, I, I'LL BE FRANK WITH THE, THE PROCESS OF THE REPORT ITSELF, UM, WE TASKED THIS OUT TO ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS, IT WAS KITTLESON, UM, AND THEIR TASK IS COMPLETE.
AND SO, PERHAPS, UH, MR. CARPENTER, AS WE GO MOVE FORWARD FOR OUR, WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION WORK, UH, WE HAVE WORKSHOPS, WE HAVE AGENDAS, WE HAVE QUARTERLY MEETINGS.
WE'VE HEARD SOME OF THE CITIZEN COMMENTS AND CONCERNS.
WE CAN SAY, HEY, CAN WE FOLD INTO THIS TO SORT OF ANSWER SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD THIS EVENING DURING THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD PRIOR TO THE REPORT? SURE.
LET ME JUST TIE TITLE, I THINK, I THINK I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU JUST SAID, BUT THE, THE, THE, THE, THE AGENDA, THE AGENDA ITEM THAT IN OUR PACKET SAYS, THE BOARD WILL RECEIVE A PRESENTATION FROM VDOT ON THE FAIRGROUND FAIRGROUND ROAD SAFETY STUDY AND IS REQUESTED TO APPROVE, APPROVE A RESOLUTION, ACCEPTING THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN IN THE SUMMARY OF INFORMATION AT THE LAST SENTENCE SAYS, THE RESULTS OF THIS STUDY WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD HAVING LAST TWO SENTENCES, HAVING BOARD ACCEPTANCE OF THE STUDY FINDINGS WILL ALLOW STAFF TO PURSUE FUNDING FOR THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THAT'S WHY I I I, YOU BRING UP THAT'S, I'M HANGING UP ON THE SIGNIFICANCE OF WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT.
AND I I, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I ASKED, I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE THIS WAS A PUBLIC FACING DOCUMENT, BUT I ALSO THINK WE COULD MAKE, AS WE DO, WE COULD MOTION, WHICH WHICHEVER IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO WHATEVER THE DESIRE OF THIS BOARD IS.
WELL, I MOVE THAT WE THANK VIDOT AND KITTLESON FOR THEIR REPORT AND THAT WE CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION IN OUR REGULAR DISCUSSIONS, UM, WITH,
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WITH VIDO.I KNOW THAT'S JUST PUT SOMETHING ON THE TABLE IF IT, IF IT DIES FOR A SECOND, I'LL UNDERSTAND.
THERE'S A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
THE MOTION AGAIN WAS TO THANK THEM.
I'LL SAY YOU'RE WELCOME TONIGHT.
ANYWAY, I WAS GONNA DO THAT EITHER WAY.
WELL, I, THE MOTION WAS, THE POINT WAS THAT I DON'T WANT TO ACCEPT, FORMALLY ACCEPT ANYTHING, BUT I THINK BECAUSE WE HAVE REALLY GOTTEN AN, UH, QUITE A BIT MORE ENGAGEMENT THAN THE LAST YEAR WITH VDOT THAT I, I I JUST THINK THERE'LL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES IN THE NOT DISTANT FUTURE.
AND I THINK THAT'S MAYBE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING A MOMENT AGO.
THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THE NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE TO TO WORK MORE CLOSELY AND PRIORITIZE THE, THE AREAS WE WANT TO START WORKING ON FOR IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND GETTING THE INFORMATION TOGETHER TO PUT TOGETHER AN APPLICATION THAT WILL, WILL, WE HOPE WILL SCORE WELL.
I'LL WITHDRAW THE MOTION AND LET SOMEBODY MAKE SOMETHING THAT, ALL RIGHT.
I LOOK, IF, IF YOU WERE GONNA BUILD FAIRGROUNDS ROAD TODAY, YOU'D BUILD IT THE WAY THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE.
OH, I DON'T KNOW IF I I SHOULD ANSWER THAT.
YEAH, BECAUSE ONE OF MY, IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD, HOW DID ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT ROADS GET TO THIS POINT? BUT THAT'S A SEPARATE QUESTION.
UM, BACK TO THE, WE ASKED FOR THIS STUDY, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE HANDING US THIS STUDY AND WE CAN EITHER TAKE IT FROM THEM OR SAY NO, TAKE IT BACK TO, I MEAN, I WOULD THINK THAT WE JUST WANNA TAKE THIS STUDY FROM THEM AND SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
HOW MANY CARS, HOW MANY TURNS, HOW MUCH IS IT? IT'S NOT AS QUALIT.
WE'VE HEARD FROM CITIZENS OFF THAT THIS ROAD NEEDS SOME ATTENTION.
SO WE'VE ASKED FOR THE STUDY, THEY'VE DONE THE STUDY, THEY'RE DELIVERING THE STUDY.
I THINK THAT MAY BE WHERE IT ENDS AT THIS POINT.
WELL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECEIVE THE REPORT PRESENTED BY VDOT, RECEIVE THE REPORT.
CAN I GO THANK HIM
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CAN I MAKE A SEPARATE MOTION? SO THIS IS BEFORE YOU DO THAT.
UM, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, THAT, SO JUST EX ACCEPTING IT, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE MOST WE JUST RECEIVED IT.
WE CAN USE THIS DATA IF IT HELPS US IN APPLICATIONS OR WE CAN DO SOMETHING ELSE.
LIKE JUST SAY WE WANNA DO SOMETHING AT DICKINSON OR, UM, HIDDEN ROCK THAT'S NOT ADDRESSED HERE, I DON'T THINK IT IS.
SO WE'RE JUST GOING TO ACCEPT IT.
WE JUST RECEIVE A REPORT FROM VAPP IT, MR. WATERS.
I AM IN TOTAL OPPOSITION TO JUST RECEIVING IT.
I WILL VOTE NO, BUT IT MEANS THAT I WOULD RATHER ADOPT IT.
SO I JUST WANTED THAT ON THE RECORD.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FOR RECEIVING THE REPORT FROM BEAT OUT SEATING FIVE BY SAYING AYE.
AM I BEING ASKED FOR A POLL? FOR A ROLL CALL? THAT'S OKAY.
NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOR ACTUALLY A, A LAND USE FOR A, UH, BUT THE HAVE A DEFERRAL BEING RECOMMENDED.
[XVI. Public Hearings]
GOOD EVENING.I HAVE, I HAVE A SLIDE FOR IT.
HOLD, WHICH ONE IS Y'ALL'S? WHERE IS
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YOUR PRESENTATION? I DIDN'T, JAMIE, WHERE IS YOUR PRESENTATION WITH, WITH IT BEING A DEFERRAL? IS IT YOURS IS NECESSARY TO DO, IS IT NECESSARY TO PRE, I MEAN WE DON'T WANT IT'S YOURS.SO WE HAVE A DEFERRAL REQUEST BY, UM, FOR THE APPLICATION, UM, BY TUCKAHOE LANDS, L L C THE A APPLICANT IS
[1. 5649: District 5 - RZ-2022-00004 – Application by Tuckahoe Lands, LLC]
ACTUALLY REQUESTING A DEFERRAL UNTIL THE APRIL 18TH BOARD MEETING.SO BOARD, WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR THE APPLICANT FOR DEFERRAL TO THE APRIL 18TH BOARD MEETING FOR THE APPLICATION FOR BY TACO HILL LANDS.
AND I'LL, I WILL MOVE THE, THE BOARD DEFER.
CAN WE JUST HOLD ON JUST A SECOND ON THAT? AND, UH, WE HIT, WE HAVE A, A REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TO DEFER AND UM, TYPICALLY WE DEFER IF THERE'S GONNA BE SOME NEW INFORMATION THAT MAY OR MAY NOT CHANGE OUR MINDS IN.
SO I, THE APPLICANT I BELIEVE RELEASED A REPRESENTATIVE MAY BE HERE TODAY.
THEN MAYBE THEY COULD SPEAK TO THE REASON FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE DEFERRAL TO SEE IF THEIR INDEED WOULD BE NEW INFORMATION.
IS THAT FAIR, MR. CHAIR? SURE.
UM, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? SORRY.
CAN YOU JUST LET US CHAIRMAN BOARD MY NAME'S EDDIE GO.
I'M A PRINCIPAL WITH TUCKAHOE LANDS LLC.
WE ARE SEEKING FOR A DEFERMENT UNTIL THE APRIL 18TH BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
THIS WILL GIVE US TIME, ADDITIONAL TIME TO ADDRESS STAFF COMMENTS, UM, RESIDENT CONCERNS, AND TO WORK WITH SUPERVISOR PETERSON TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS A VIABLE PATH INDEED FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THANK, UM, I'M SORRY MR. GOOD.
IF YOU COULD JUST HANG FOR JUST A SECOND.
UM, I, I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T IRONED OUT WHAT YOUR REVISED PROPOSAL MIGHT LOOK LIKE, CORRECT? WE DON'T KNOW JUST YET.
UM, IN CONSIDERING THE, THE DEFERRAL, UM, THIS HAS COME TO THIS BOARD WITH A, I BELIEVE A OH FIVE OH FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR DENIAL.
MR. PETERSON, AT THE LAST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THE COMMISSION VOTED FIVE OH TO DENY.
UM, SO THAT WOULD INDICATE TO ME THAT THERE'S MAYBE JUST MORE THAN DOTTING I AND CROSSING TS HERE TO GET TO AN AREA THAT MIGHT PROCEED AND GO FORWARD.
IS THAT YES SIR, THAT IS CORRECT.
WE HAVE MADE SUBSTANTIATE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE PLAN.
UH, WE HAVE A MEETING, UH, SCHEDULED WITH JAMIE SHERRY TOMORROW AT TWO O'CLOCK TO DISCUSS WITH OUR LAND PLANNER AND OUR COUNT AND OUR ATTORNEY.
AGAIN, WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE NOT PREPARED AT THIS POINT TO DO THAT, BUT AT, AT SOME POINT, THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION AMONG THE BOARD AND PERHAPS, UH, MS. MCGEE AS WELL, IS AT WHAT POINT WOULD THOSE CHANGES BECOME SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO REFER IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, AT THE MARGIN, CERTAINLY THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT IF IT'S MORE THAN AT THE MARGIN, IF IT'S MORE SUBSTANTIAL, LIKE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE, I, YOU'RE THE BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO KNOW THAT THAN I AM, BUT, BUT WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE FOR IT TO GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? BECAUSE I, ONE WAY FOR THIS TO GO IS IF WE DEFER TO THE 18TH AND IT COMES BACK SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED AND WE AT THAT POINT NEED TO REFER IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THAT WOULD DELAY IT EVEN FURTHER.
IF THERE, IF, AND THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S CALL, NOT THIS BOARD'S CALL, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ON THIS, IS IF WE WERE INSTEAD TO DEFER, REFER IT RATHER BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
NOW IF YOU THINK IT'S SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH, THE CHANGES ARE SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH TO PERHAPS WARRANT THAT PROCESS TO TAKE PLACE ON THE 18TH, IT MAY OR MAY NOT SAVE SOME TIME TO DO IT NOW RATHER THAN THEN HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AT ALL? I DON'T MEAN TO TO HIT YOU AT THE PODIUM WITH ALL OF THIS, BUT YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, RIGHT? I I DO.
WE HAVE OUR PROPOSED PLAN NOW WE HAVE, UH, TWO PLANS, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK WITH, UH, MS. SHERRY TOMORROW.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS TAKING THE EXISTING R ONE, UH, WHERE BY RIGHT DEVELOPMENT THE FRONT AND THEN REZONING THE, UH, THE, THE BACK HALF OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PLAN THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED WITH IS REZONING THE ENTIRE, UM, DEVELOPMENT TO 14 LOTS THAT WAY WE BELIEVE THAT'S A, THAT'S A BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ASSET FOR THE COUNTY.
AND IN OUR UH, OPINION, IT'S, IT'S AESTHETICALLY MORE PLEASING.
UM, AS FAR AS COMMENTING ON THE PROCEDURAL, WHETHER IT SHOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR BE HEARD
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ON THE 18TH, I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A, A BETTER IDEA AFTER WE, UH, MEET WITH, UH, MS. SHERRY, UH, TOMORROW WITH, WITH DUE RESPECT.I DON'T THINK I COULD COMMENT ON THE BEST PATH FORWARD UNTIL WE RECEIVE COUNTY STAFF COMMENTS TOMORROW.
YEAH, FAIR ENOUGH, FAIR ENOUGH.
AND I'M, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT.
I'M ACTUALLY JUST TRYING TO ENVISION DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THIS MIGHT BREAK AND WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST FOR ALL PARTIES CONCERNED AND THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, SO I MEAN, I KNOW THERE WERE OTHER THINGS BESIDES THE DENSITY, WHICH IS, UM, I GUESS ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS IT WAS, UH, OUTTA COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMP PLAN AND THAT WAS AN ISSUE.
THERE WAS OTHER ISSUES, THE TURN LANE, I THINK THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR A WAIVER AND NOT HAVE TO DO ONE OF THOSE AND CORRECT.
UM, OUR TRAFFIC STUDY, UH, DID NOT, UH, WARRANT A TURN LANE, BUT AS YOU ALL ARE AWARE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NEGOTIABLE BETWEEN THE BOARD IN A VDOT RECOMMENDATION AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE VERY FLEXIBLE ON.
UM, BUT OUR TRAFFIC, UH, STUDY SHOWED THAT THE ONLY IMPACT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE ALONG THE RIVER ROAD CORRIDOR WAS AT BLAIR ROAD AND THERE WAS LESS THAN ONE CAR LENGTH OF A DELAY AT THAT TURN.
AND THAT'S ONE REASON WHAT WE WERE JUST BASING, UM, THE, THE WAIT AND SEE APPROACH ON THE TURN LANE.
NOW YOU SAID THE V THAT RECOMMENDED A TURN LANE, BUT YOUR TRAFFIC STUDY DIDN'T OR NO, OUR, OUR TRAFFIC STUDY DID NOT WARRANT, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE LIMITED NUMBER OF TRAFFIC AND THAT WAS, UH, CONS.
UM, CONSIDERING 17 HOMEOWNERS IN THEIR DAILY TRIPS, NOW WE'RE GONNA BE DOWN TO 14, SO WE WON'T REDO THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
SINCE THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOWED A, A NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT ON THE, UH, ON THE ROAD.
WELL THEN WHY THE WAIVER THEN? I THINK THERE WAS, THERE WAS A QUEST FOR A WAIVER OF THAT PROVISION.
WELL, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO IS, UM, WE WOULD NOT LIKE TO HAVE A, A TURN LANE, UM, OFF OF IT.
WE WOULD BE AGREEABLE POSSIBLY TO A TAPER.
BUT A LOT OF THE TIMES WHEN WE DO DEVELOPMENTS, UM, IN OTHER LOCALITIES, THIS WOULD BE OUR FIRST DEVELOPMENT IN THIS LOCALITY.
WE TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, TRY TO WORK WITH FIDO'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
SOMETIMES, UH, THEY DON'T WANT THE TURN LANE BECAUSE IT'S NOT WARRANTED AND WE TAKE A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH ON THAT WITH THE COUNTY.
I MEAN, WE WANT TO BE SAFE AND WE RESPECT THE VIEW OF, OF THE BOARD AND ESPECIALLY VDOT, BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR SURE A VARIANCE ON THAT JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE, OF OUR TRAFFIC STUDY AND THE NEGLIGIBLE IMPACT ON THE, ON TRAFFIC, UH, A VARIANCE OR, OR AN EXCEPTION FOR COUNTY CODE OR WHERE, WHERE IS THE REQUEST? COUNTY ORDINANCE, COUNTY ORDINANCE REQUIRES ONE, BUT REQUESTING A WAIVER NOT DOWN.
AGAIN, WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS DEPENDING ON HOW YOU'RE CHANGING THE DENSITIES AND THE NUMBER OF HOMES AND ALL, IT MAY CHANGE THE NEED FOR THAT WHOLE THING.
BUT, BUT AT THAT POINT I THINK WE'RE GETTING INTO SOME FAIRLY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES AND PERHAPS MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE A REASON TO THINK ABOUT GOING BACK AND LET'S GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND MAYBE YOU GOT A DIFFERENT RESULT THERE.
MAYBE YOU DON'T, BUT, UM, THIS IS WHY I'M HAVING THIS DISCUSSION NOW TO TRY AND MR. MCGEE, DO YOU HAVE SOME WELL, I JUST WANNA MAKE TO, TO CLARIFY, UH, THE, THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS APPLICANT COULD GO BACK BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS IF IT IS REMANDED BY THE BOARD.
SO THE APPLICANT HIMSELF DOES NOT HAVE THE OPTION TO CHOOSE TO GO BACK.
UM, THIS BOARD W COULD AND WOULD IT THE POINT IN TIME IF IT FOUND IT, UM, IN THE BEST INTEREST REMAND THAT CASE.
BUT, AND I, I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR. PETERSON IS, UM, SUGGESTING, IS THAT IF YOU THINK THE CHANGES ARE GONNA BE SUBSTANTIAL ENOUGH, IF YOU WAIT TILL APRIL 18TH AND THE BOARD THEN DECIDES TO REMAND, YOU'LL BE, YOU KNOW, THEN MAYBE SIX WEEKS TILL THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING YOU COULD BE AT.
IF ON THE OTHER HAND, THE YOU WANTED TO SAVE YOURSELF SOME TIME AND SUGGESTED TO THE BOARD THAT YOU'RE MAKING TONIGHT THAT YOU'RE MAKING ENOUGH CHANGES THAT YOU WOULD NEED A REMAND, THEN TONIGHT THE BOARD COULD DO THAT REMAND AND YOU WOULD HAVE SAVED YOURSELF A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT MR. PETERSON'S TRYING TO SUGGEST PROCESS-WISE, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT ADDITIONAL DELAY THAT COULD OCCUR IF YOU WAIT TILL THE 18TH AND THEN THEY DECIDE TO REMAND.
I I THINK THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT OF YES MA'AM.
A AGAIN, I THINK I'LL HAVE TO STICK WITH MY ORIGINAL COMMENT WHERE I'LL BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO ADDRESS THAT TOMORROW.
WE DO FEEL THAT WE HAVE ADDRESSED ALL OF STAFF'S CONCERNS.
WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME REWORKING THE PLAN, AND I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT AND APTLY PUT THAT THE ONLY ISSUE THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT WHEN WE MEET WITH MS. SHERRY TOMORROW WOULD BE, UH, THE RESOLUTION OF THE TURN LANE AND OF COURSE, GIVEN ANY FACT OF ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT THEY HAVE SINCE THEY HAVE ONLY HAD THE PLAN PLAN IN HAND FOR PROBABLY ABOUT A WEEK.
SO I THINK THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND I THINK WHAT YOU MAY HAVE ALSO HEARD WAS THAT IF WE DEFER THIS TO THE 18TH AND THEN TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY YOU MEET WITH STAFF AND DECIDE YOU WANNA GO BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.
AND WE, AND I UNDERSTAND, AND I APPRECIATE THE COUNTY, UH, ADVISING ME ON THE TIME VALUE OF MY MONEY
CAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS IN OUR FORETHOUGHT.
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FAIR ENOUGH.UM, AND SO AT THIS POINT YOUR REQUEST IS STILL, YES, I WOULD STILL STAND BY A REQUEST TO DEFER TO THE APRIL 18TH BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, UNDERSTANDING THAT UNDER COME BACK TO US FOR SOMETHING SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT.
OH, HOLD ON SEC, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT A YES SIR.
YOU, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP WHAT YOU SAID EARLIER.
YOU SAID I, AND I UNDERSTOOD YOUR, WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT TOMORROW.
YOU'LL KNOW AFTER THAT MEETING, IT SOUNDED LIKE YOU MIGHT BE LOOKING AT TWO PATHS FORWARD AND ONE YOU SAID R ONE IN THE FRONT, LEAVE IT AS IT IS AND DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY IF, IF YOU END UP DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN THE BACK.
IS THAT WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU LEAVE R ONE BY? RIGHT.
UM, THE, THE FRONT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALREADY BEEN ZONED R ONE, UM, THE BACK HALF, UM, IS A TWO.
AND SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UM, ZONING OR WE COULD BY RIGHT AT A, AT A LESSER LOT, UM, WHICH WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED THAT OPTION.
YOU HAVE NOT EXPLORED THAT OPTION, RIGHT? NO, SIR.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO, AS I STATED, UM, AND, AND THIS IS OUR INTENTION TO STAFF WOULD BE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE 14 LOT OF REZONING, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY AS OPPOSED TO GOING THE BUYRIGHT UH, PATH SIMPLY BECAUSE WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A BETTER OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
SO, SO WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THIS, SO WHEN YOU SAID YOU HAD TWO PATHS, IF, IF AFTER TOMORROW YOU END UP WITH BUYRIGHT IN THE FRONT, HOW MANY HOUSES WILL THAT LEAVE IN THE BACK PART? NOT BY RIGHT, BUT IF YOU GET THE, DEPENDING ON THE ROAD CONFIGURATION, UH, POSSIBLY TWO LOTS IF NOT THREE LOTS IN THE BACK.
BUT I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT CAUSE WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED THAT.
UM, SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT BY DEFINITION I THINK WOULD BE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE.
SO IF YOU WERE GONNA, WHAT I, I'M KIND OF TRYING TO FIND A PATH FORWARD SO THAT UNDERSTOOD.
AFTER TOMORROW, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO MAKE KIND OF A CONDITIONAL DECISION THAT WE DEF WE'LL DEFER IT UNLESS YOU GO TO THAT OTHER, UNLESS YOU CHANGE AND GO BUY RIGHT.
WITH THE DIFFERENT LOTS AND THEN, AND THEN IS THERE A WAY TO PROBABLY TOO TRICKY OR COMPLICATED? YEAH, I'M NOT SURE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WON.
I WAS AGAIN TRYING TO NO, AND I'M TRYING TO GIVE YOU AS MUCH INFORMATION AS I CAN OF WHERE WE STAND.
UM, BUT IT'S HARD TO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD LIKE TO WORK, YOU KNOW, THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT COMPANY AND ACROSS OTHER LOCALITIES.
YOU KNOW, PART OF A, THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IS WORKING WITH STAFF, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING IRONED OUT.
AND SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO ADDRESS THOSE IN FULL TRANSPARENCY WHEN WE HAVEN'T MET WITH STAFF AND GIVEN THE FACT FROM OUR, UH, DENIAL APPLICATION, YOU KNOW, OF OUR APPLICATION AND THEN MOVING FORWARD AT THIS POINT WE HAVE, THERE'S A LOT TO WORK WITH, UM, IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
THAT'S WHY WE'VE JUST GIVEN STAFF THAT PLAN OF OUR REVISED DEVELOPMENT, UH, LAST WEEK.
OKAY, MS. LASETTE, UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. MCGEE.
IF WE HEAR THIS ON APRIL 18TH AND WE, UM, VOTE, DECIDE A REMAND IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO HEAR, DO YOU THINK, IN THEIR EARLY MAY MEETING? NO, MA'AM.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S NOT ENOUGH BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO HAVE TWO WEEKS OF A, UH, ONE AFTER THE OTHER OF AN AD.
AND SO THEY'VE GOT AN EARLY MAY DATE.
SO GIVEN THAT, THAT'S A APRIL 18TH RIGHT, BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET, RIGHT.
THERE WOULDN'T BE A POSSIBILITY TO HAVE IT HEARD IN THE, IN THE MAY PLANNING COMMISSION.
THAT'S WHY WHEN I WAS TRYING TO CALCULATE EARLIER, I WAS SAYING THAT'D PROBABLY BE AT LEAST A SIX WEEK, RIGHT? PROBABLY AT LEAST THE TWO WEEKS OF APRIL AND ALL OF MAY UNTIL IT WOULD BE HEARD AT THE PC.
SO IT'D BE THE EARLY JUNE FOR PLANNING IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN, IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN.
JUST TRYING TO GET SENSE OF IT, THINKING OF THROUGH A POSSIBLE TIMELINE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE JUNE BEFORE IT WOULD BE AT THE COMMISSION AND THEREFORE JULY BEFORE IT WAS BACK BEFORE THE BOARD.
BOARD, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION MR. MR. CHAIR? UM, YES, SIR.
UM, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD DEFER CONSIDERATION OF REZONING RZ 2 2 0 2 2 0 0 0 4 FOR 14.298 ACRES ON TAX MAP NUMBERS AS PRESENTED, UM, TO OUR APRIL 18TH, 2023 MEETING.
A MOTION TO SECOND FURTHER DISCUSSION WE'LL CALL VOTE MS. MR. PETERSON? YES.
UH, FOLKS, WE'RE GONNA TAKE 10 MINUTE RECESS.
UH, WE'LL BE BACK HERE AT SEVEN 30.
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READY? THAT'S PRETTY GOOD WITHOUT A GAVEL.ALL RIGHT, IF WE CAN MAKE OUR SEATS PLEASE.
WE'LL GAVEL BACK IN HERE IN A SECOND.
WARREN, ARE WE GOOD? ALL RIGHT.
THANKS EVERYBODY FOR, UH, COMING BACK.
WE ARE FOR OUR SECOND, UH, PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
AND JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW HOW, UM, HOW THI THIS PIECE GOES, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE, AS YOU SEE SOME FACES THAT HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS STAFF IS GONNA COME UP AND DO THE PRESENTATION, UH, FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA ASK THE APPLICANT TO
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COME UP AND GIVE ANY WORDS IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO.UH, THE BOARD MAY ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS AT THAT TIME AND THEN WE'LL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO COME UP AND I, I'VE ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT, SO WE'LL GO INTO IT AGAIN.
UM, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE, SOMETHING THAT IS HELPFUL IS YOU CAN MAKE YOUR WAY UP AND SIT IN THE FRONT ROW UNTIL THE NEXT PERSON'S DONE SPEAKING.
IT DOES SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.
OBVIOUSLY WE WANT ALL EVERYONE'S INPUT.
IF WE START HEARING THE SAME, IT'S, IT'S, IT IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE TO SAY, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION OR I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION.
IF ALL, IF ALL OF THE ARGUMENTS ARE DISCUSSION POINTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN MADE, WE'RE WE'RE PRETTY QUICK MOST OF THE TIME.
UH, AND THEN AFTER THAT WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD TO ANSWER ANYTHING THEY HAVE HEARD THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.
AND THEN I WILL LOOK FOR A MOTION AND, UH, THERE'LL BE A FIR, POTENTIALLY A FIRST OR A SECOND.
AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS THAT MOTION AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A VOTE.
SO THAT'S HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO GO.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AS WELL AS MR. CARPENTER.
I'M CRYSTAL ANNIS, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND I'LL BE PRESENTING BEFORE YOU ALL TONIGHT.
YOU ALL HAVE FOR YOUR REVIEW AND CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UM, FROM CAPITAL BROAD LLC.
THIS IS FOR A SHORT, SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED AS WELL AS A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE.
AND THERE IS A ASK FOR A WAVE REQUIREMENT FOR PAVED PARKING.
THE AREA THAT IS SEEKING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS 15.2 ACRES AND IT IS LOCATED AT 50 61 BROAD STREET.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS A TWO AGRICULTURAL LIMITED AND ITS DESIGNATION IS A RULE ENHANCEMENT AREA.
THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE THE PROPERTY LIES.
UM, I WOULD POINT OUT WHERE IT IS IN RELATION TO A FEW THINGS.
THIS IS SYCAMORE ROAD, NO, SORRY, BROAD STREETE ROAD.
IT'S NEAR SYCAMORE CREEK SUBDIVISION AS WELL AS IT IS ALSO ADJACENT TO, UM, OUR CENTERVILLE VILLAGE AREA, WHICH ACTUALLY DELINEATES RIGHT ABOUT THERE.
THIS AGAIN IS ANOTHER AERIAL JUST SHOWING SOME ADJACENT PROPERTY, UM, OR PARCEL ZONING RATHER.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE SOME GREEN SPACE LOCATED HERE THAT IS INCLUDED IN OUR CENTERVILLE VILLAGE AREA.
YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL IN YOUR YELLOW, WHICH IS SYCAMORE CREEK, AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL
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WHICH IS OVER HERE IN YOUR RED.AND THIS IS AGAIN ALONG THE BROADTREE CORRIDOR.
THIS IS AN AERIAL, THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN AS PROVIDED IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, WHICH HIGHLIGHTS FROM THEIR APPLICATION THE ACTUAL PARKING AREA, AS WELL AS PROPOSED OVERFLOW FOR THE EVENT VENUE, UH, PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE, AS WELL AS THE VENUE TENT AREA.
AND THEN THE EXISTING HOUSE, SHORT-TERM RENTAL LOCATION ON THE, SORRY, I'M LEFT-HANDED.
SO RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN I GUESS.
UM, THERE IS A DIAGRAM THAT SHOWS THE CLOSEST DWELLINGS.
THEY ARE ROUGHLY 510 FEET, 530 FEET, UM, AND 350 FEET TO THE NEAREST ADJACENT DIRECT HOMES OR DWELLINGS.
SO IN SUMMARY, THEIR APPLICATION, UH, THEY'RE SEEKING THE ABILITY FOR AN EVENT VENUE, UM, FOR 30 EVENTS PER SEASON, WHICH WOULD RUN SPRING, SUMMER, FALL, AN EVENT DURATION ROUGHLY OF FOUR HOURS MAXIMUM AND ONE EVENT PER DAY, UNLESS THEY'RE RELATED EVENTS, WHICH MEANS, YOU KNOW, IF I'M HAVING A REHEARSAL DINNER AND THEN THE ACTUAL EVENT OF SAID WEDDING, IF THAT OCCURS.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THAT CONCEPT OF THE RELATED EVENTS.
SO ATTENDEES 80 TO A HUNDRED ATTENDEES.
UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING A HUNDRED FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER ALONG EASTWEST AND SOUTH PROPERTY LINES, PARKING OF A MAXIMUM OF 25 SPACES, ONE DETACHED SIGN, AND AGAIN, BASED ON THE CONCEPTUAL UTILIZING TENTS, UM, IN THE REAR OF THE DWELLING.
THIS IS A VISUAL OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AT ITS FRONT FRONTAL FACING VIEW ON BROAD STREET, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD AND I WILL NOTE THAT THE COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD NOVEMBER 15TH, 2022.
AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THERE WERE EIGHT ATTENDEES.
THERE WERE A VARIETY OF CONCERNS THAT WERE MENTIONED OR QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED, NAMELY, RELATING TO WHAT YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE SOMEONE ASK FOR AN EVENT, VENUE, UM, LOCATION, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE, ALCOHOL, UH, ATTENDANCE, UH, ANY KIND OF BUFFERS, TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
UH, GENERALLY AT THAT POINT IN TIME THERE WAS NOT ANY EXPRESSED OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSAL.
I WILL SAY, LEMME STAY ON THIS SLIDE.
UM, AGAIN, THIS WAS THE COUNTY CODE MEETING REQUIRED SINCE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE APPLICANT HAS RECENTLY HAD AN ADDITIONAL MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY ADJACENT TO THEIR SITE, SYCAMORE CREEK, AT THE COMMUNITY'S REQUEST.
AND ADDITIONALLY, THE ADJACENT COMMUNITY, SYCAMORE CREEK HAS HAD A MEETING WITH THEIR DISTRICT SUPERVISOR AS WELL.
SO THERE HAS BEEN QUITE A BIT OF COMMUNITY DIALOGUE ON THIS PROJECT.
UM, WITH AGAIN, TOUCHING ON COMMUNITY INPUT, WE HAVE, UM, SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECEIVED QUITE A BIT OF, UM, COMMUNICATION REGARDING, UM, CONCERNS RANGING FROM USE AND LOCATION, SITE SOUND IMPACTS, NUMBER OF FREQUENCY OF EVENTS, HOURS OF OPERATIONS, SAFETY, POTENTIAL IMPACTS, LACK OF EXPERIENCE, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT ON NA, TUCKAHOE CREEK FLOODPLAIN, AND OR AS WELL AS POTENTIAL CONCERNS CITED FROM THOSE WRITING EMAILS.
ON THE UNHOSTED RENTAL, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE UPDATES BASED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
SO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY HAVE WORKED TO DIRECTLY RESPOND TO IS AMPLIFIED SOUND AND HOW THOSE SI DEVICES WILL BE ORIENTED TOWARDS BROAD STREET AND AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENT.
UM, A DAILY LIMIT, AS I MENTIONED BRIEFLY BEFORE ONE EVENT AND THE EVENTS WILL ONLY BE FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, A WEEKLY, WEEKLY LIMIT OF NO EVENTS MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY, AND AGAIN, A MONTHLY LIMIT OF THIS BEING A SEASONAL PROPOSED VENUE FOR CONSIDERATION WHERE THE EVENTS RUN FROM MARCH 1ST THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST BEING ON WEEKENDS.
SO NO EVENTS IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY, AND LIMITING THE NUMBER OF OVERALL EVENTS TO 30 EVENTS PER CALENDAR YEAR.
A LITTLE MORE ON JUST THE GENERAL OPERATION, IDENTIFYING HOURS FRIDAY NOON TO 10:00 PM SATURDAY 9:00 AM TO 10:00 PM SUNDAY, 11:00 AM TO 9:00 PM AND EVENT DURATION, LOOKING AT LIMITING THAT TO FOUR HOURS TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS WITH LONG OVERRUN EVENTS.
UM, TENTS ARE TO BE REMOVED WITHIN THREE DAYS OF EVENT.
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CONCLUSION, SANITATION, UM, TO COMPLY WITH V D H STANDARDS WITH TEMPORARY TOILETS, HAND WASHING FACILITIES AND TRASH CANS REMOVED WITHIN THREE DAYS OF EVENT.CONCLUSION, UM, EVENT MANAGEMENT, THE PROPERTY OWNER OR A DESIGNEE WILL BE PRESENT AT ALL TIMES DURING EVENTS ON THE PROPERTY.
THIS, UH, WE WANTED STAFF AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PROVIDED YOU ALL WITH SOME CONTEXT OF ONE, SOME OVERVIEW OF COMPARABLE SHORT-TERM RENTALS AND OR VENUES, UM, PLACES OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY THAT ARE IN OPERATION.
SO ONE I WOULD LIKE TO FIRST DEFINE, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, WHETHER IT'S HOSTED OR UNHOSTED, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, DEFINED AS 30 DAYS OR LESS OF A STAY.
UM, SINCE 2020, THE COUNTY HAS HAD, UH, ORDINANCES IN PLACE THAT ALLOW FOR SHORT-TERM RENTALS.
THERE ARE CURRENTLY 10 PERMITTED SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED FACILITIES OR PROPERTIES THROUGH CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OPERATING IN GUC LANE COUNTY.
AND OVERALL, GUC COUNTY HAS 13 PLACES OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY VENUES THAT OPERATE.
SO I'LL TAKE A MOMENT AND JUST WALK THROUGH THIS.
THIS TABLE SHOWS VALENTINE ROAD, WHICH IS A VENUE.
IT SHOWS HILL, WHICH IS A VENUE SLASH CAMPGROUND AND ALSO SERVES AS A RESIDENCE GC J HOLDINGS, WHICH IS A VENUE, CAMPGROUND AND RESIDENCE THURSTON, WHICH IS A VENUE SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED.
IF WE MOVE ON EXPANDING THIS, THIS TABLE ALSO SHOWS AURA PACKS, THAT IS A VENUE AND AN UNHOSTED RENTAL.
THERE'S RIVER RUN MANOR, WHICH IS A WINERY, AND B AND B AS WELL AS A RESIDENCE.
DOVER HALL, WHICH IS A VENUE, AND B AND B AND B AND B ALSO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MEANS BED AND BREAKFAST.
UM, BANDIT RIDGE, WHICH IS A VENUE AS WELL AS RESIDENCE RUNNING MAYOR, WHICH IS A VENUE AND SERVES AS A RESIDENCE.
ADAMS SCHOOL, WHICH IS A VENUE B AND B SCHOOL CAMPS AND RESIDENTS.
MOVING ON TO SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE, UM, WOULD BE APPLIED TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IF APPROVED.
UM, AMPLIFIED SOUND, HAVING CONDITIONS OF SUBWOOFER PROHIBITED, AMPLIFIED, SOUND PROHIBITED OUTDOORS WITH EXCEPTION DURING WEDDING.
PROFE PROFESSIONALS AND CEREMONIES INSIDE OPEN STRUCTURES THAT ARE ENCLOSED WITH TEMPORARY BARRIERS.
FOR EXAMPLE, A PORCH OR TENT WITH FLAPS ORIENTED.
ALL SOUND TOWARDS BROAD STREET, NO AMPLIFIED SOUND OR MUSIC OUTDOORS AFTER 10:00 PM AND FIREWORKS PROHIBITED.
ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS INCLUDE NO HUNTING OR DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS. NO TRESPASSING, NO SIGNS POSTED ALONG ALL BOUND, NO TRESPASSING SIGNS RATHER SORRY, POSTED ALONG ALL BOUNDARIES.
RV'S TENTS, CAMPING, NOT ALLOWED FOR OVERNIGHT ACCOMMODATIONS.
UM, STANDARD CONDITIONS, SALE LEASE OF PROPERTY, SO IF THERE IS A TRANSFER OF PROPERTY, IF IT IS SOLD.
STANDARD NOTIFICATION PROCESS APPLIES WHERE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR NEEDS TO BE MADE AWARE.
ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS INCLUDE WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED, THOSE WERE FOR THE PUBLIC PLACE OF ASSEMBLY.
UM, USE THAT THAT IT MAY BE OPERATED FOR A SHORT TERM UNHOSTED RENTAL WITH A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY OF EIGHT PEOPLE OVERNIGHT.
AND THAT IS BASED ON THE CURRENT SEPTIC CAPACITY, AS YOU KNOW, REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY V D H.
IF THERE ARE SEPTIC UPGRADES, NO MORE THAN 10, AND AGAIN THAT'S SIGNED OFF ON BY V D H.
UM, CARBON MONOXIDE AND SMOKE DETECTORS SHALL BE IN PLACE AND COMPLY WITH STA YOU KNOW, UNIFORM STATEWIDE BUILDING CODE AGAIN.
SO, UH, CONDITIONS THAT WOULD BE APPLIED TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL IF APPROVED WOULD BE THE STRUCTURE MAINTAINS RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE.
GUESTS MUST BE INFORMED IN WRITING OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, THEIR OCCUPANCY LIMIT, THE NO AMPLIFIED SOUND OUTDOORS, AND NO MUSIC OUTDOORS AFTER 10:00 PM OBSERVE ALL NO TRESPASSING SIGNS, NO HUNTING OR DISCHARGING OF FIREARMS ON PROPERTY.
AND AGAIN, IT WOULD BE STATED THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WOULD EXPIRE WITHIN A FIVE YEAR PIECE.
AND SO TO PUT THAT IN CONTEXT, WHEN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL WAS HEARD BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY VOTED TO APPROVE IT FIVE TO ZERO FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL FOR THE FULL TERM, AGAIN, WITH PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE.
LOOKING AT THE USE, UM, HOW THE PROPERTY MAY BE USED AS AN, UM, ASSEMBLY, UM, OPERATING TO HOLD EVENTS SUCH AS WEDDINGS, BIRTHDAY PARTIES, CHARITY EVENTS, AND SIMILAR ACTIVITIES SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.
THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SH SHALL GENERALLY
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CONFORM TO THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WHICH I SHOWED YOU ALL EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, AND REQUIRED APPROVALS THAT NO ACTIVITY AS FAR AS ANY EVENT OR ORGANIZED ACTIVITY AT THE VENUE WOULD OCCUR UNTIL THE P O D PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE APPROVED.AND THAT THERE HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, HEALTH DEPARTMENT INSPECTION AND APPROVAL AS WELL.
SO GOING THROUGH THE CONDITIONS AGAIN, UM, OR ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS, EMERGENCY ACCESS HAS TO BE MAINTAINED.
LIGHTING, UM, HAS TO BE COMPLIANT WITH OUR DARK SKY COMPLIANT AND, UM, ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THERE.
LANDSCAPING, UM, THERE IS ROBUST REQUIREMENTS REGARDING LANDSCAPING.
ONE OF THE RATIONALES WITH THIS IS IT WOULD ALLOW FOR AND FOSTER SUPPLEMENTAL PLANTINGS DURING THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PROCESS TO ALSO ENHANCE BUFFER BETWEEN ADJACENT PROPERTY, UM, PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE CONDITIONS.
AGAIN, MAXIMUM OF A HUNDRED GUESTS PER ANY PUBLIC ASSEMBLY ACTIVITY EVENT.
A DAILY LIMIT OF ONE EVENT, YOU KNOW, EACH FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY WEEKLY LIMIT, NO PUBLIC ASSEMBLY ACTIVITY EVENT MAY BE HELD MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
AND I KNOW I'VE ALREADY STATED THIS, UH, MONTHLY LIMIT, UM, THAT THEY MAY ONLY BE HELD THROUGH MARCH THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST.
SO AGAIN, A SEASONAL, UH, VENUE.
UM, ALSO AGAIN ON THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE, ANNUAL LIMIT OF THE 30TH EVENTS PER YEAR LIMITING THE HOURS OF OPERATION TO THE WEEKENDS.
ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION IF AND WHEN ALCOHOL WOULD BE SERVED AT THIS, AT THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY VENUE, SAME RULES WOULD APPLY AS WITH ANY OTHER LOCATION THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE APPLICABLE LICENSING FROM THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE BEVERAGE CONTROL, AND THAT ALL APPLICABLE LAWS AND REGULATIONS ARE ENFORCED.
UM, PARKING, AGAIN, MINIMUM OF 25 PARKING SPACES AND OVERFLOW, UH, SHALL BE ALLOWED BASED ON THE DESIGNATION IN THE P O D PAR PAVING WAIVER IS BEING PURSUED AND NO PARKING ALONG BROAD STREET ROAD.
UM, LITTLE ADDITIONAL ON THE CONDITIONS FOR THE EVENT TENT AREA.
UM, THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY ACTIVITY AND RELATED ACTIVITY SHALL BE LOCATED AND TAKE PLACE WITHIN THE AREA DESIGNATED AS THE VENT, AS THE VENUE TENT AREA ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN EVENTS, EVENT TENTS, SORRY, IT'S EVENT TENTS.
EVENT TENTS WITH THE APPROPRIATE PERMIT FROM THE BUILDING.
OFFICIAL TENTS MAY BE ERECTED FOR AN INDIVIDUAL ASSEMBLY AGAIN FOR THE THREE DAYS.
AND SANITATION AGAIN, AS WE MENTIONED WITH THE, UM, PORTABLE TOILETS AND REFUSE COLLECTION.
SO AGAIN, UM, SIGNED SIGN RELATED TO USE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE ONE DETACHED SIGN EVENT MANAGEMENT.
THE PROPERTY OWNER DESIGNEE SHALL BE ON PROPERTY AT ALL TIMES DURING AN EVENT AND AN ANNUAL NOTICE AS FAR AS A REPORT BEING PROVIDED TO THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR ON THE NUMBER OF EVENTS, NUMBER OF ATTENDEES AND THE DATES.
THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH A FIVE OH VOTE.
HOWEVER, THEY DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR ONLY A ONE YEAR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHEREAS THE STANDARD IS FIVE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? MS. LASETTE? OKAY, MS. UM, ANNIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WOULD YOU GO BACK AND BEGIN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CONDITIONS? WENT THROUGH A COUPLE THINGS KIND OF QUICK.
I'LL BE SURE I'VE I'VE GOT IT.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE, WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, UM, HOW MANY ACRES OF THIS PROPERTY ARE IN THE FLOOD ZONE? MS. LASETTE? I WILL DEFER TO MR. COLEMAN.
HE IS THE, UM, THIS IS HIS PLANNING CASE.
UM, HOW MANY ACRES? UM, I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT DAY OF ACREAGE.
IT'S ABOUT TWO OR THREE ACRES.
THE, THE TECO CREEK RUNS BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND THERE ARE A COUPLE ACRES BACK THERE.
I GUESS MAYBE THE MAP'S A LITTLE DECEIVING.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, UH, IT'S MORE, BUT, UH, OKAY.
SO, UM, OKAY, GO AHEAD TO THE NEXT ONE.
OH, SO THE HOURS, SO FRIDAY NOON TO 10.
SATURDAY NINE TO 10, SUNDAY 11 TO NINE.
SO WHEN WE SAY THAT, AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT LATER.
TENS REMOVED WITHIN THREE DAYS OF AN EVENT CONCLUSION.
SO THEY HAVE AN EVENT ON FRIDAY, THEY HAVE AN VAN ON SUNDAY, THEY LEAVE THE 10 UP ON SATURDAY, TAKE IT DOWN WITHIN THREE DAYS BY WEDNESDAY THEN IS THAT HOW IT WOULD WORK WITHIN THREE DAYS OF AN EVENT CONCLUSION,
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BUT THE FRIDAY ONE CONCLUDES ON FRIDAY, SEE WHERE I'M GOING? CORRECT.SO I, I THINK THAT THAT'S GETTING INTO A LEGAL INTERPRETATION OVERALL.
THEY HAVE THREE DAYS OF OPERATION, SO IF THE, IF THEY HAVE ONE OF THEIR EVENTS, YOU KNOW, ONE'S ON A FRIDAY AND THEN THE NEXT ONE'S ON A SUNDAY, THE TENT WOULD REMAIN UP IF IT WAS NEEDED FOR THE SUNDAY EVENT.
THEY'RE NOT TO HAVE A TENT UP FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME AND AFTER AN EVENT IT HAS TO BE REMOVED WITHIN THREE DAYS.
AND SO, UM, THE SANITATION, THE TEMPORARY TOILETS, HOW DOES THAT WORK? IS THAT DETERMINED BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE? WHO DETERMINES THAT? THAT WOULD BE BASED ON THE INDIVIDUAL WORKING TO COORDINATE THE EVENT VENUE SPACE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THEIR DISCUSSIONS.
SO IT WOULD BE EVENT SPECIFIC.
UM, I THINK SKIP TO TO LIKE NUMBER 24 ON, I GOTTA COME BACK TO THAT.
SO THEY COULD HAVE AN EVENT ON FRIDAY MM-HMM.
BUT N NE NONE OF THOSE EVENTS CAN BE MORE THAN FOUR HOURS.
AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT 30 A YEAR NOW, THEY'VE, THAT WOULD BE THREE THEY'RE USED YES MA'AM.
AND THEN 29, OH, THAT'S THE SANITATION AGAIN.
UM, OKAY, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTION.
OH, THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE OF THE, UH, DOZEN OR SO, UM, EVENTS, UM, VENUES THAT WE HAVE APPROVED AT THIS POINT, UM, DO ANY OF THEM HA THEY ALL HAVE SOME KIND OF A PERMANENT STRUCTURE, IS THAT RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.
THEY ALL HAVE SOME EITHER STANDARD TERMS AND CONDITIONS OR VARIATION THEREOF THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THE SITE PERMIT, NOT PERMIT.
THEY'RE ALL PERMITTED AND THEY BASE THEIR OPERATION OF WHAT IS PERMITTED ON THE PROPERTY BASED ON STANDARD TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED THAT GET MOLDED, UM, TO EACH SITE BASED ON SITE SPECIFIC.
UM, BUT THERE'S A PHYSICAL STRUCTURE.
I WILL DEFER TO STAFF FOR THAT DEFINITIVE ANSWER FOR THAT.
THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
UM, TOM, YOU GETTING MISS LASETTE, TOM COLEMAN? YEAH.
UM, ALL OF THE OTHER, UH, VENUES, EITHER INCLU ALREADY HAD A STRUCTURE OR CONSTRUCTED A STRUCTURE AS A PART OF THEIR CP PROCESS.
AND THE, THE CURRENT MAY, MAYBE THIS APPLICANT CAN ANSWER THE CURRENT RESIDENCE RESIDENTS THAT IS BEING RENTED OUT, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT LIVING THERE.
IT'S THEIR, IT'S A RENTAL PROPERTY.
AT THIS CURRENT MOMENT, IT IS A RENTAL PROPERTY, BUT LONG WITH A RENTER INTENT RENTER INSIDE OF IT.
I, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE LONG TERM, BUT THEY ARE, THEY HAVE A RENTER, SO IT IS CURRENTLY A RENTAL PROPERTY THAT THEY ARE SEEKING TO THEN INSTEAD HAVE A SHORT TERM RENTAL UN HOSTED.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. PETERSON.
I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP REALLY QUICKLY ON ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS, AND WE PROBABLY DON'T NEED TO GO BACK TO THE CHARTS.
IN EVENT ON SUNDAY, TENS HAVE TO DISAPPEAR.
TEMPORARY TOYS DISAPPEAR WITHIN THREE DAYS, MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY.
IF YOU HAVE AN EVENT ON FRIDAY, THAT MEANS IT ALL COMES DOWN WEDNESDAY NIGHT, GOES BACK UP A DAY LATER.
IS THAT REALLY WHAT THE WAY THIS IS SET UP? SO THERE COULD BE ONE DAY IN BETWEEN? YES.
UM, THE APPLICANT PROPOSED SOME CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CHANGES FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION BASED ON FEEDBACK.
AND THESE ARE THE CHANGES WE HAVE RECEIVED.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, JUST REALLY JUST QUESTION WHAT YES, SIR.
IN THEORY THAT, THAT COULD BE THE SCENARIO.
ON THIS SIDE BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD? YES.
WHICH HER PULL IT UP FOR? ARE YOU DOING? NO, I'M GONNA, I CAN DO IT FOR YOU.
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PROBABLY NEED SOME HELP GETTING THROUGH THE, I'M JUST GONNA GET IT PULLED UP.THIS IT, TOM, THE BOTTOM HERE.
GET YEAH, THAT'S THE SECOND ONE FROM THE TOP.
THIS IS YOURS, RIGHT? SECOND ONE, CORRECT.
THIS WILL ADVANCE YOU FORWARD.
IF YOU NEED IT, YOU JUST REALLY NEED THIS ONE.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MR. CARPENTER.
UM, MY NAME IS PATIA AND I GO BY PRAT.
I LIVE IN 1 2 0 2 1 AMBERWOOD LANE AND I'M REQUESTING, UM, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR UNHOSTED SHORTTERM RENTAL AS WELL AS A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE.
UM, I DID WANNA TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO KIND OF SHARE MY VISION WITH THE BOARD ON THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE, CUZ THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE CONCERNS WERE FROM THE NEIGHBORS, UM, IN, IF I KNOW HOW TO DO THIS.
UM, SO I'VE BEEN, UM, I'M A FIRST GEN IMMIGRATION FOR IMMIGRANT FROM INDIA.
MOVED TO UNITED STATES ABOUT 20, MORE THAN 20 YEARS AGO.
AND, UM, I'VE BEEN LIVING IN THIS AREA FOR 20 YEARS, UM, IN THE WESTERN AREA, UM, SHARP AREA AND JUST BY DRIVING ON BROAD STREET TO WORK EVERY DAY AND JUST LOOKING AT THE GROWTH OF THIS REGION.
UM, AND, UM, THE PROXIMITY OF THIS PARTICULAR PLACE UP TO 2 88 AND 64.
AND, UM, WITHIN THE RANGE OF, UH, OUR MAJORITY OF THE LAND PARCELS FROM MANNEQUIN ROAD, UH, BEING COMMERCIAL OR SEMI-COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL, UM, I FELT THAT THIS PLACE WOULD BE A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE COUPLE, COUPLE OF SPEND, COUPLE OF HOURS OUTDOORS WITH OUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
SO, UM, I, UM, THIS ALSO, UM, THIS ACTUALLY THIS IS STEMMED FROM MY OWN NEED AS WELL AS MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHERE WE ARE LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GATHER AND CELEBRATE, UM, BUT WHICH IS NOT CONFINED TO FOUR WALLS.
UM, SO WE EITHER HAVE TO DRIVE TOO FAR AWAY FROM A, UH, FROM THE WESTERN AREA TO FIND A PLACE THAT, UH, LET'S SPEND SOME TIME OUTDOORS.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE I FOUND, UM, A BUSINESS GAP OR A MARKET GAP THAT HEY, A PLACE, UH, WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME IN AND HANG OUT IN OUTDOORS IN WARMER WEATHERS FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS WITHOUT HAVING TO DRIVE TOO FAR, UM, FROM THE INTERSTATES TO 88 OR 64 AND THEN WEST IN, UM, THAT, THAT'S WHERE IT ALL STEMMED FROM.
UM, THIS WILL BE OWNED AND OPERATED BY MY OWN FAMILY.
UM, MY HUSBAND, THE GENTLEMAN THAT, THAT I'VE BEEN MARRIED TO FOR 24 YEARS, HE'S WITH ME.
AND I HAVE TWO YOUNG KIDS WHO ARE, UM, AT HOME RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE ARE A HARDWORKING FAMILY.
WE GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY BY TEACHING PROGRAMMING IN ROBOTICS TO UNDERSERVED, UM, STUDENTS, ESPECIALLY, UM, FEMALE STUDENTS IN THE RICHMOND METRO AREA.
SO, UM, I HAVE BEEN, UM, I KNOW THE, UH, COMMISSION HAS, UH, RECOMMENDED ONE YEAR OF PERMIT, BUT I'M REQUESTING A THREE YEAR PERMIT CONSIDERING THAT A MAJOR LIFE EVENT SUCH AS WEDDINGS AND RETIREMENTS REQUIRE ADVANCED PLANNING AND ALSO CONSIDERING THE, UM, UNCERTAINTY IN THE, THE MARKET CONDITIONS.
UM, THE THREE YEAR PERMIT WOULD KIND OF GIVE ME, UM, UH, TO SEE HOW THE BUSINESS WOULD BE FOR A FULL SEASON FOR A COUPLE SEASONS.
AND THAT ALSO GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNTY AND FOR THE NEIGHBORS FOR MYSELF TO SEE HOW THE BUSINESS OPERATES.
MOVING ON, UM, WITHIN THE 25 MILE RADIUS OF THE PROPOSED APPLICATION, UH, THE NEW, UH, HOME SOURCE DATA REVEALS THAT THERE ARE 140 NEW COMMUNITIES AND THERE ARE ABOUT SEVEN FARMS AND GARDENS, WHICH ACTUALLY OFFER THE OUTDOOR AREA FOR CELEBRATION.
AND, UM, THIS ALSO HELPS THE COUNTY, NOT MAJORLY, BUT TO C CERTAIN EXTENT, TO PROMOTE GROWTH FOR OR TO, UH, PROMOTE GROWTH FOR THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT CATER THE CELEBRATIONS LIKE THE FLOS OR CATERERS OR PHOTOGRAPHERS OR EVEN MANAGERS WHERE IT ADDS SOME DOLLARS WHEN THE BUSINESS, UM, RUNS IN THIS PROPERTY.
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PUBLIC SAFETY HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS.UM, OBVIOUSLY IT INVOLVES, UH, PEOPLE COMING IN, SO WE TOOK ALL COUNTY'S RECOMMENDATIONS INTO IT AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE, UM, BROAD STREET PARKING AND THERE WILL BE AN OVERFLOW PARKING WITHIN INSIDE THE PROPERTY IN ADDITION TO THE 25, UH, PARKING SPOTS, UM, THAT ARE GOING TO BE PAVED.
AND WE WILL ALSO ENSURE THAT THE LAND WILL NOT BE DISTURBED IN THE CREEK AREA, IN THE FLOODPLAIN AREA.
UM, LIKE MR. COLEMAN MENTIONED, IT IS TOWARDS THE END OF THE PROPERTY TOWARDS VERY RARE.
AND SO, UM, IT WILL NOT BE TOUCHED.
AND WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE WILL BE DARK SKY LIGHTING SO THAT, UH, THE NEIGHBORS ARE NOT DISTURBED FROM THE LIGHTING.
AND, UM, ANY OTHER, UM, SIGNAGE OR THE LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ON THE BROAD STREET, UM, TOWARDS THE EAST END, UM, ARE GOING TO BE FOLLOWED.
AND, UM, LIKE THE STAFF HAS PRESENTED, THERE WILL BE AN ONSITE ATTENDANT DURING THE EVENTS MAKING SURE THAT ALL THE CONDITIONS ARE MET.
UM, THIS IS WHERE I WANTED TO GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF DETAILS ABOUT, UM, HOW I ENVISION THIS PROPERTY.
UM, THIS IS SURROUNDED BY THE SYCAMORE GOLF COURSE AND IT IS WITHIN, UH, DRIVING DISTANCE TO 2 88 AND 64 AND WITHIN LIKE FOUR OR FIVE MILES TO THE GROWING SHORT PUMP AREA.
AND, UM, IT'S PROBABLY, I, I PROBABLY WILL BE WRONG IF I MEASURE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE MANNEQUIN ROAD SIGNAL AND THIS PROPERTY, BUT IT IS LIKE FIFTH OR SIXTH, UH, LAND PARCEL AND ALL THE LAND PARCELS ARE FROM THE MANNEQUIN ROAD SIGNAL AFTER THIS PROPERTY ARE COMMERCIAL OR SEMI-COMMERCIAL OR RETAIL, LIKE I MENTIONED, EXCEPT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO THIS IS, UH, WHERE I ENVISION FOLKS TO COME IN, CELEBRATE BIRTHDAYS OR GRADUATIONS OR RETIREMENT PARTIES, UM, PROBABLY SOME NONPROFIT EVENTS OR CHARITABLE EVENTS AND SOME CORPORATE EVENTS.
UM, AND ALSO THE WEDDINGS AND REHEARSAL DINNERS.
SO THE GUESTS WILL HAVE AN OPTION OF A TEMPORARY TENT SETUP IF THEY WOULD LIKE.
THE TENT WILL BE SET UP, UH, PRIOR TO THE EVENT AND REMOVED AFTER BY LOCAL VENDORS.
AND I SPOKE TO A FEW VENDOR PROVIDERS WITHIN THE AREA.
AND DEPENDING ON THE DEMAND AND DEPENDING ON THEIR STAFFING, UM, THEY USUALLY TAKE THEM OUT, UH, AT THEIR OWN STANDARD PROCEDURES LIKE A DAY OR A TWO DAY, THE MAXIMUM OF THREE DAYS, DEPENDING ON HOW BUSY THEY ARE.
UM, AGAIN, UH, FOR PORT PARTIES WILL BE SET UP FOR, UH, IN THE CLEANED AND REMOTE BY WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
AGAIN, I SPOKE TO A COUPLE OF OUR VENDORS WITHIN THE AREA.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN STANDARDS, UM, THAT'S HOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE GOING WITH THEM, WHICH ALSO GIVES THEM BUSINESS.
UM, MOST OF THIS IS COVERED, UH, BY THE STAFF, BUT I DID WANNA CALL OUT THAT, UM, THE PR THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGED BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, ORIGINALLY AS WELL AS THE MOST RECENTLY NOVEMBER AND THEN FEBRUARY MEETINGS.
ANY FOR ANY SMALL BUSINESS TO SUSTAIN IN THIS UNCERTAIN MARKET CONDITION.
THE AVAILABILITY OF THE LOCATION AS WELL AS THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE HOURS IS A KEY FOR, AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OR FIRST FEW YEARS TO SUSTAIN.
SO, UM, BECAUSE THIS IS A OUTDOOR EVENT PLACE, UM, THE WARM WEATHER IS A KEY, SO THAT'S WHY I HAVE REDUCED THE OPERATIONS FROM ORIGINALLY.
I PLAN TO OPERATE ALL 365 DAYS, BUT NOW IT IS REDUCED TO EIGHT MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
THAT'S LIKE 66% OF THE YEAR, WHICH WILL BE OPERATING FROM MARCH 1ST TO OCTOBER 31ST.
AGAIN, RICHMOND WEATHER, I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR 20 YEARS.
RICHMOND WEATHER HAS BEEN, IT'S, IT'S KIND UNPREDICTABLE.
SOME MONTHS ARE WARM, SOME MONTHS ARE COLD.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GIVE AND TAKE.
BUT, UH, MOSTLY THE MAJORITY OF THE EVENTS WILL BE OCCURRING BETWEEN MARCH AND OCTOBER.
NO EVENTS IN NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, JANUARY AND FEBRUARY.
AND THIS IS A CHANGE FROM MY ORIGINAL PLAN CUZ I SAW FOLKS COMING AND GATHERING AROUND CHRISTMAS, AROUND THANKSGIVING AND SOME MONTHS HAVE BEEN WARM AND SOME, SOME DAYS HAVE BEEN WARM, BUT I DID CHANGE THIS SO THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE THOSE MONTHS FREE OF EVENTS.
SO THIS IS A PRETTY BIG, UM, CHANGE THAT I HAD TO MAKE MYSELF.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, UM, THE REASON, UH, FOR, UH, ME THINKING THAT IT'S A BIG CUT IS THAT RICHMOND HAS BEEN A MELTING POT FOR MANY CULTURES AND EACH CULTURE WILL HAVE THEIR OWN TRADITIONS.
YOU KNOW, SOME GO BY STARTS AND YEAH, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF NUANCES, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
AND SO THERE WILL BE SOME WEDDINGS OR CELEBRATIONS DURING THE WEEKDAYS
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AS WELL OR DURING THOSE MONTHS AS WELL.BUT, UM, I, TO RESPECT A NEIGHBORS, UH, PRIVACY AND SOUND AND ALL THEIR CONCERNS, I'VE CUT BACK THE EVENTS BY UM, ALMOST 40%.
AND UH, THE NUMBER OF EVENTS ARE 30 OR LESS FOR FIRST YEAR CUZ IT'S THE MOST OF THE SEASON IS ALREADY OVER BY THE TIME I GET THE PURITY APPROVED, IT'S ONLY GONNA BE FEW MONTHS, BUT I DO WANT TO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY IN FOR NEXT YEAR, FOR SECOND YEAR AND THIRD YEAR UP TO 50 NEXT YEAR AND THEN 60 FOR THIRD YEAR.
IT IS NOT NECESSARILY, UH, DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT I'LL HAVE THAT KIND OF BUSINESS, BUT JUST HAVING THAT, UM, FLEXIBILITY IS GOING TO SET ME UP FOR SUCCESS INITIALLY FOR THE WORD TO COME OUT.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE AVAILABILITY AND FLEXIBILITY AGAIN MATTERS TO A SMALL BUSINESS TO SUSTAIN.
UM, THE, ANOTHER CHANGE IS OPERATES THREE DAYS PER WEEK ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY.
AGAIN, THIS IS A BIG CHANGE FOR ME.
I DID WANT TO OPERATE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
UM, BUT AFTER HEARING NEIGHBORS CONCERN, UM, I HAVE REDUCED IT TO FRIDAY, SATURDAY, AND SUNDAY.
UM, AND NO EVENTS MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
UM, ONE OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS FROM THEM WAS THE SOUND TRAVELING.
SO CONSIDERING OR COMPARING WITH ALL OTHER EVENT PLACES NEARBY THAT DO ALLOW OUTDOOR EVENT THAT DO ALLOW, UM, OUTDOOR, UM, CEREMONIES AND WEDDINGS.
UM, NO SUBWOOFERS WILL BE PUT IN SO THE SOUND DOESN'T TRAVEL.
AND THEN BANDS AND AMPLIFICATION DEVICES WILL BE ORIENTED TOWARD BROAD STREET.
THIS IS ALL COVERED BY THE STAFF REPORT.
I THINK THIS IS REDUNDANT, BUT I DID WANNA CALL OUT THAT I MADE SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENT, UM, IN THE PLAN TO, TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS ON SOUND TRAVELING.
SO THE AMPLIFIER MUSIC STOPS JUST BELOW 10:00 PM FRIDAY AND SATURDAY AND 9:00 PM ON SUNDAY.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SUMMARIZE REAL QUICK ON THE REVISIONS THAT WERE MADE FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN, UM, TO ADDRESS NEIGHBORS CONCERNS.
UM, I BELIEVE I'VE BEEN PRETTY FLEXIBLE, BUT I DIDN'T WANNA CALL OUT THAT, UH, THE MONTHS OF OPERATIONS REDUCED FROM 12 TO EIGHT MONTHS, NUMBER OF DAYS OPERATED, UM, SEVEN TO FOUR AND FURTHER DOWN TO THREE AFTER THE MOST RECENT MEETING.
REDUCED NUMBER OF HOURS OF OPERATIONS ON SUNDAY, ORIGINALLY PLANNED UNTIL 10, BUT THEN CONSIDERING IT IS SUNDAY, IT REDUCED IT BY AN HOUR.
AND, UM, THE EVENT LIMIT REDUCED TO 30 FOR THE FIRST YEAR FROM A TARGET OF HUNDRED.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE A AMBITIOUS TARGET.
IT'S A GRADUAL INCREMENTAL TARGET.
I I DOES NOT MEAN THAT I NECESSARILY MEET IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M KIND OF AIMING FOR.
UM, AGAIN, I DID HAVE AN ASTERISK THERE CUZ I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY OTHER CS OPERATED SUCH A LOW EVENT LIMIT, BUT I'M THAT, THAT'S MY RESEARCH.
AND UM, ORIGINALLY THE TENT LOCATION WAS TOWARDS THE BROAD STREET TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, CLOSE TO BROAD STREET.
BUT BASED ON THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS, UM, THE TENT LOCATION IS BEING MOVED TO BEHIND THE PROPERTY.
SO THEY, THEY DON'T SEE IT FROM, UM, THE BROAD STREET DRIVING BROAD STREET.
UM, THIS IS WHERE I HAVE KIND TRIED TO, UM, SHOW MY REASONING BEHIND REQUESTING A THREE TO FIVE YEAR PERMISSION CUZ UM, WE ARE IN MARCH ALREADY IN WITH THE P APPROVAL.
I PROBABLY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO START MY, UH, ANY RESERVATIONS UNTIL JULY 1ST WEEK.
SO HAVING A ONE YEAR PERMIT, UM, WILL NOT LET ME SEE A FULL SEASON.
I CAN ONLY TAKE, UM, HALF OF THIS MONTH RESERVATIONS AND THEN HALF FOR NEXT YEAR.
THE, LIKE I SAID, UM, MAJOR EVENTS WILL REQUIRE ADVANCED PLANNING AND IF THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS WON'T BE EXTENDED, FOLKS MIGHT NOT WANNA RESERVE AFTER JULY 1ST OR MARCH 1ST OR WHATEVER THE ONE YEAR DEADLINE IS.
SO THAT IS GOING TO LIMIT ME FROM RUNNING A BUSINESS SUCCESSFULLY FOR YEAR ONE WITH THE INVESTMENTS THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE PROPERTY.
IF, IF A TWO, TWO YEAR PERMIT IS GIVEN THE, UM, IT'LL GIVE ME ONE FULL CYCLE, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ONE FULL SEASON NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS FROM MARCH TO OCTOBER.
THAT IS GOING TO HELP ME SEE HOW THE BUSINESS RUNS FOR A FULL SEASON.
UM, AND IF THERE ARE ANY ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, I CAN COME AND REQUEST FOR, UM, CHANGES.
A THREE YEAR PERMIT IS IDEAL FOR ME BECAUSE, UM, CONSIDERING THE PLANNING AND TALKING TO THE VENDORS, THE TENT VENDORS, DIFFERENT EVEN, UH, PLACES.
UM, AND THE WASTE REMOVAL, PRETTY MUCH ALL THE WEDDINGS ARE PLANNED FOR NEXT YEAR, SO THAT WILL NOT HELP ME GET A LOT OF BUSINESS FOR NEXT YEAR.
UM, SO I PROBABLY WILL BE RUNNING LOW ON RESERVATIONS
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BECAUSE PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY HAS PLANNED THEY'RE WAITING FOR NEXT YEAR.SO, UM, A THREE YEAR PERMIT IS GOING TO GIVE ME A FULL YEAR FOR 2025 THEN THAT BY THE TIME THE COUNTY WOULD HAVE AN IDEA, I WOULD HAVE AN IDEA AND THE NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW THE BUSINESS RUNS AND WHERE THE ADJUSTMENTS NEED TO BE MADE.
AGAIN, I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, UM, TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, UH, FOR ME TO BE A SUCCESSFUL, UH, TO, FOR ME TO RUN A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS, BUT YET TO BE RESPECTFUL FOR THEIR NEEDS.
UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW AND THANKS FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? MR. WATERS? UM, YOU MENTIONED INVESTMENTS GOING INTO THE PROPERTY, BUT YOU DIDN'T PRESENT ANYTHING RELATED TO THAT.
UM, COST FOR EVENTS AS YOU PRESENT, IT WILL BE BORN BY THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO MAKE THE RESERVATIONS.
SO CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS, UM, RENTED FOR A SHORT-TERM, UH, RESIDENT.
AND, UM, IN ORDER FOR, BASED ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, I NEED TO PLANT SOME TREES AND HAVE SOME LANDSCAPING IN PLACE AND PAVE THE PARKING SPACE AS WELL AS, UM, SET THE, WHEN YOU PLACE, UM, TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO PUBLIC, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME CONCRETE OR, UH, PATHWAY LEAD, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THE KIND OF INVESTMENT THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, UH, ORIGINALLY TO EVEN MAKE THE PLACE READY FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN.
UM, YOU ALSO REFERENCED, YOU'VE SPOKEN TO A FEW, AND I'M QUOTING YOU FROM YOUR PRESENTATION AND USUALLY IN YOUR CONVERSATION WITH VENDORS, YOU'VE NEVER ENGAGED IN A CONTRACT WITH A VENDOR? I HAVE NOT FOR AN EVENT.
JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT, BUT, UM, I DID WANNA ADD THAT SOME VENDORS HAVE, UM, SENT THE CONTRACT AGREEMENTS FOR US TO REVIEW, BUT YOU'VE NEVER SIGNED, I'VE NEVER SIGNED AGREEMENT WITH AN VENDOR.
UM, YOUR REFERENCE PHOTOS D DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT'S GONNA LOOK, I MEAN, I'VE DRIVEN BY THAT SITE A NUMBER OF TIMES.
IT'S HEAVILY WOODED, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LEAVES ON THE GROUND THE BULK OF THE YEAR.
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE REFERENCE PHOTOS ARE GONNA BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE SITE? THAT'S THE, UM, THAT'S THE CURRENT PHOTOGRAPH.
I DO HAVE A MONTHLY, UM, LAWNMOWER OR MAIN LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE PERSON COMPANY, WHICH BLOWS THE LEAVES, UM, WHEN DURING THE FALL AND TWICE A MONTH THE LAWN GETS MOVED.
UM, AND THE SHRUBS GET, UM, YOU KNOW, TRIMMED.
SO ALL THAT A MAINTENANCE FORM IS IN IS HAS BEEN IN PLACE.
UM, AND THEN FINALLY THE, UM, YOU MENTIONED A MARKET GAP MM-HMM.
UM, WE, WE ARE A COUNTY OF 25,000 RE ROUGHLY 25,000 RESIDENTS.
AND IT, IT, IT WAS PRESENTED IN, UH, MS. S'S, UH, PRESENTATION, THE SITES WE ALREADY HAVE THAT'S NOT REFERENCING HENRICO, PTAN LOCAL AREAS.
I, I JUST, I WANT YOU TO EXPAND UPON A I A DRAMATIC MARKET GAP IN NEED FOR VENUES LIKE THIS, UM, ESPECIALLY IF THEY DON'T INVOLVE A PERMANENT STRUCTURE.
AND THAT'S WHERE, UH, THIS BUSINESS DIFFERENTIATES FROM THE REST.
UM, MAJORITY OF THE PLACES HAVE FOUR WALLS, CONFINED WALLS AND NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO SPEND TIME BETWEEN THOSE FOUR WALLS AND SOME PLACES.
UM, THIS PLACE IS SUPER ACCESSIBLE TO THE GROWING WESTERN AREA WITH 2 88 AND 64.
IT'S FOLKS DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE TOO FAR IF THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PLACE THAT DOES NOT HAVE A STRUCTURE.
SO THAT IS WHERE THIS PLACE DIFFERENTIATES.
CUZ I'M LOOKING FOR FOLKS WHO WANT TO COME IN AND CELEBRATE OUTDOORS.
SO YOU'D RECOMMEND A LACK OF A STRUCTURE IS BETTER THAN A PLACE, A FACILITY THAT HAS A STRUCTURE AND THE OUTDOORS.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT IS NECESSARILY BETTER, BUT IT DIFFERENTIATES FOR THE REST OF, AND THAT'S WHERE THE MARKET GAP IS CUZ SOME FOLKS WANT OUTDOOR CELEBRATIONS.
I'D BE, I'D BE SHOCKED TO FIND MANY VENUES THAT DON'T HAVE BOTH.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FACILITY OR A VENUE THAT HAS JUST ONE? THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE GAP IN MY OPINION.
UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
SO THE CURRENT, UM, RESIDENCE THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY NOW, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IS, THAT'S BEING RENTED OUT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT.
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A SHORT TERM RENTAL BASIS? YES.SO THAT IS, UH, YOU DON'T LIVE THERE? I DON'T LIVE THERE.
I LIVE 10 MINUTES, UH, FROM THAT PROPERTY.
SO I CAN, I CAN DROP, I CAN DRIVE BY LIKE FEW TIMES A DAY.
SO, UM, I GUESS SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED, I THINK REQUIRES A C U P AS WELL.
THAT, THAT IS INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
BUT I, I TOOK TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE VENUE, BUT THEN THE SHORTTERM RENTAL IS ALSO PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
RIGHT? DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION RIGHT, MS? WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU'RE ALREADY DOING OH, OH, THAT'S NOT OH.
OH, WELL SHORTTERM RENTAL BY DEFINITION IS 30 DAY OR LESS.
WHY SH THESE RESIDENTS ARE AT A THREE MONTH, UM, LEASE.
LIKE THE LEASE EXTENDS EVERY THREE MONTHS ALSO.
THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY SHORT TERM.
LONG TERM IS LIKE WHERE I HAD 18 MONTH OF LEASE BEFORE.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER AS A LONG TERM.
IF, IF THANK YOU DOES, DOES IT HELP.
UM, WE'RE GONNA GET READY TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
PLEASE COME UP AND GIVE YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
YOU ALREADY CAME UP HERE ONCE.
UM, MY NAME IS ELIZABETH BOWERS.
I LIVE, UH, 2100 PROFIT ROAD, WHICH IS THE VERY END OF PROFIT ROAD.
TUCKAHOE CREEK IS IN MY PROPERTY AND I AM 225 TO 250 YARDS FROM THIS PROPERTY.
SHE KEEPS REFERRING TO SYCAMORE CREEK NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I'M HER NEIGHBOR AS WELL.
AND I, WHEN THE BEST THINGS THAT THE TIME OF YEAR WAS, SHE WANTS TO HAVE HER VENUE IS MY FAVORITE TIME TO BE OUTSIDE AT NIGHT.
I LISTEN TO THE CRICKETS, THE PEE, I LOOK AT THE STARS AND I HAVE SOME GRAVE CONCERNS THAT THAT'S GONNA DISTURB MY EVENINGS AT MY OWN HOUSE THAT I'VE LIVED THERE FOR 20 YEARS.
I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT WHERE THAT PROPERTY EXISTS AND PEOPLE TURN, UH, GET ON TO TWO 50.
SO I THINK THAT'S A SAFETY PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A VENUE WITH POSSIBLE ALCOHOL.
SO IT'S SOMETHING TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD.
I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD A BAD ACCIDENT IN MY FAMILY, AND I ALWAYS THINK OF SAFETY WHEN IT COMES TO DRIVING.
AND, UM, ANOTHER CONCERN I HAD WAS THAT THIS IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL, EVEN THOUGH IT IS ON TWO 50 IS OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE CONCEPT, THAT THE, IS THE PLAN YOU GUYS ALL KNOW ABOUT, THAT I LOVE AND I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WHEN YOU GIVE A LITTLE BIT HERE AND YOU GIVE A LITTLE BIT THERE, SUDDENLY THE CONCEPT WILL BE NU AND VOID.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS GUCCI COUNTY HAS HAD THAT IN PLACE AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
OUR HOUSE IS ABOUT 400 YARDS FROM THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY.
SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT NOISE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PRESENTED THAT THE SPEAKERS ARE GONNA BE FACING TOWARDS BROAD STREET NOISE RISES, IT ALSO USUALLY GOES DOWNHILL, WHICH WOULD TAKE IT INTO OUR ROAD.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THE PEOPLE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THIS PROPERTY HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.
PROFIT ROAD HAROLD ROAD, THAT'S ABOUT 60 HOMES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CONSIDERED, THAT ARE GONNA BE POTENTIALLY IMPACTED BY WEEKEND ONLY.
THAT'S OUR TIME, THAT'S OUR PEACE AND QUIET TIME.
SECOND, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHERE THIS, UM, WHERE THEY GET THE IDEA THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A WEDDING VENUE.
I DON'T REALLY KNOW ANY WOMAN THAT HAS A $5,000 GOWN THAT'S GONNA BE USED A PORTA POTTY.
SO I'M CONCERNED WHETHER OR NOT THE PLAN ACTUALLY FITS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND I THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING TONIGHT.
HI, MY NAME IS CECIL LEE THOMAS.
I RESIDE AT 2006 SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE, AND I, UM, GIVE MY TIME TO MR. GREG COLSI.
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THANK YOU.I RESIDE AT 2011 SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO DENY THIS PROJECT AND I GIVE MY TIME TO GREG KIZZY.
HELLO, MY NAME IS HOLLY STANS LEE.
I LIVE AT TWO FIVE SYCAMORE CREEK.
I DO NOT WANT THIS PROJECT AND I DEFER MY TIME TO GREG.
I LIVE AT 2020 EIGHTS SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE.
I ALSO DO NOT SUPPORT THIS VENUE, AND I GIVE MY TIME TO GREG KIZZY.
I'M AT 2 0 15 SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE.
TO WHOM DID YOU DEFER YOUR TIME TO MIKE? OKAY, THANK YOU, MR. ALL RIGHT, GREG, I'M NOT GONNA SCREW UP YOUR SYSTEM, SO YOUR HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
LET'S SEE, GREG, IT'S THE ONE HIGHLIGHTED.
OKAY, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU UNAWARE, WHAT JUST HAPPENED WAS YOU'RE ABLE TO DEFER SOME TIME UP TO A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES.
SO, MR. KLI, YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES.
SO THOSE OF YOU STANDING MAY WANT POINTER.
OKAY, PULL UP A SEAT FOR A SECOND.
UH, GREG KAZI, 2028 SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE.
UM, THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING THE COMMUNITY AS PART OF THIS PROCESS.
UM, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO SHARE OUR PERSPECTIVES WITHOUT A LOT OF REDUNDANCY.
UH, I'M HERE TO REPRESENT THE SYCAMORE CREEK COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AS REPRESENTED ON THIS MAP.
THE, THE PUSHPINS ON IT, UH, ON THE MAP OVER HERE AS WELL, REPRESENT PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATED IN DISCUSSIONS, SHARED THEIR CONCERNS, AND SIGNED A STATEMENT IN SUPPORT OF, OF THIS PRESENTATION.
UM, THIS APPLICATION CLEARLY STRUCK A NERVE, YOU CAN SEE BY THE NUMBER OF ATTENDEES WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT.
UH, IT ACTUALLY SPARKED THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WE'VE HAD IN 23 YEARS, UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
UH, SO THERE WAS A LOT OF INTEREST.
UH, PEOPLE WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT THE IMPACT IS GONNA BE, AND, UM, SHOW THEIR CONCERN FOR THIS MEETING.
I HAPPEN TO LIVE IN THE HOUSE THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE, THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE EAST.
NOW, WE'VE CAPTURED A TON OF NOTES.
LIKE I SAID, WE'VE AGGREGATED THEM.
UH, AND REALLY WHAT IT BOILED DOWN TO IS WHAT INFORMATION DO YOU NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON THIS? AND FUNDAMENTALLY, IT'S THESE TWO QUESTIONS.
DOES THE CAPITAL BROAD APPLICATION MEET THE STANDARDS SET BY THE COUNTY FOR A C U P? AND THEN GO TO THE TERMS WITHIN THAT APPLICATION, MEET THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE OUTLINED BY THE COUNTY FOR BOTH THE SHORT TERM STAY AND THE PUBLIC PLACE OF ASSEMBLY.
YOU GUYS PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW THESE REGULATIONS MUCH BETTER THAN THE REST OF US, BUT FOR REFERENCE, YOU KNOW, THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE, UH, AND PROVIDE SUITABLE REGULATIONS AND SAFEGUARDS TO PRO PROTECT NEIGHBORS PROPERTIES.
AND IT ALSO HAS TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE'S A PUBLIC NEED FOR CONVENIENCE, UM, WELFARE, UH, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICES.
AND WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE APPLICATION MEETS EITHER ONE OF THESE, THESE STANDARDS.
THERE ARE NUMEROUS CONDITIONS THAT WERE OUTLINED, UH, IN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BY THE COUNTY JUST LAST YEAR.
I APPLAUD THE WORK THE COUNTY DID TO ORGANIZE THESE AND CLEARLY ARTICULATE WHAT'S EXPECTED FOR THESE C UH, YOU'LL SEE MOST OF THOSE CAPTURED WITHIN THE APPLICATION, ALTHOUGH NOT NECESSARILY ALL OF THEM UP TO THE REQUIREMENT OR THEIR STANDARD THAT WE WOULD EXPECT FOR A PROPERTY OF THIS NATURE.
SO WE DECIDED TO SUMMARIZE THE, THE KEY CONCERNS.
MANY OF THESE WERE CAPTURED IN BOTH THE STA STAFF REPORT, AND YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF THEM FROM OTHER PRESENTERS ALREADY.
YOU KNOW, GIN'S MISSION IS TO PRESERVE THE RURAL CULTURE, AGRICULTURAL LAND.
UM, THIS PROPERTY DOES AS STATED, FALL OUTSIDE THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT AND ALSO OUTSIDE OF THE DEFINED VILLAGE AREA.
SO WE JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE RIGHT USE FOR THIS PROPERTY, FOR THIS TYPE OF AN EVENT.
SIGHT AND SOUND ARE MAJOR, MAJOR CONCERNS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS COMPLETELY SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY, NOT JUST THE SYCAMORE CREEK COMMUNITY, BUT THOSE ON THE BACKSIDE.
UH, AS MENTIONED BY THE, THE PRIOR SPEAKER, WE ALL RECOGNIZE THIS
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IS GONNA BE A GROWTH AREA, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS SMART GROWTH AND THE PROTECTIONS OFFERED BY THE ZONING, UH, LAWS AND CON AND CODES THAT ARE OUT THERE, THE HOURS AND FREQUENCY OF EVENTS.UM, WE GOT THIS UPDATED PRESENTATION ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON, AND IT MADE THE ADJUSTMENTS TO OURS.
THE INFORMATION I JUST SAW IN THE LAST PRESENTATION WAS NEW INFORMATION TO US.
UH, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE LIMITED TO 30 EVENTS TOTAL.
WE DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A RAMP OVER TIME, UH, ALTHOUGH THE APPLICANT DID EXPRESS THAT THE NEED FOR A HUNDRED EVENTS A YEAR, UH, WHEN WE MET WITH HER.
BUT THE APPLICATION ITSELF, UM, INDICATED 30 EVENTS A YEAR.
SO THIS IS NEW INFORMATION FOR US.
UM, AND ACTUALLY, FRANKLY, PRETTY CONCERNING.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE, THAT STOOD OUT TO ME, AND I'M GLAD THAT THE STAFF REPORT INCLUDED THAT TABLE GRID OF ALL THE OTHER CS THAT HAVE BEEN OFFERED.
UH, WE HAD THAT IN OUR ORIGINAL PRESENTATION AND DECIDED THERE WAS TOO MUCH INFORMATION TO REALLY CONSUME.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO US WAS THIS PROPERTY IS ABOUT HALF THE SIZE OF ALMOST EVERY OTHER APPLICANT THAT'S OUT THERE.
THERE'S ONLY TWO THAT WERE SMALLER AND IT'S IN CLOSER PROXIMITY TO ANY OTHER, UH, PROPERTY OR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY THAN ANY OF THOSE OTHER, UH, APPLICATIONS.
UM, THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY DO NOT LIVE ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY LIKE MANY OF THE OTHER VENUES.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, EVENT MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE, WHICH CAN, I'VE MANAGED EVENTS FOR OVER 25 YEARS, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EASY JOB.
IT REQUIRES INCREDIBLE DILIGENCE AND DETAILED PLANNING.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT MANAGED APPROPRIATELY, IT CAN HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, NOT ONLY ON THEIR BUSINESS, THEIR PROPERTY, BUT EVERY PROPERTY, UH, SURROUNDING THAT LOCATION.
THE LACK OF A PERMANENT STRUCTURE, UH, AND RESTROOMS REALLY SPEAKS TO THE, THE LACK OF INVESTMENT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO MAKE IN THIS BUSINESS.
AND THEN THE TENTS AND PORTA-POTTIES ARE REALLY NOT IN KEEPING WITH WHAT GLAND COUNTY IS TRYING TO ESTABLISH FOR THE LOOK AND COUNTRY FEEL OF THE, OF THE COUNTRY.
SO ULTIMATELY, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING US TO DO IS TO FORSAKE THE, A PEACEFUL, QUIET EVENING IN OUR BACKYARDS FOR ALL THE MONTHS OF SPRING, SUMMER, AND FALL, THE TIME THAT WE WOULD WANT TO USE OUR BACKYARDS, THAT WE'D BE LISTENING TO MUSIC COMING IN FROM ADJACENT PROPERTY.
AND FOR WHAT THE STAFF REPORT SAYS, THERE IS NO ECONOMIC BENEFIT TO THIS.
THEY HAVEN'T ESTABLISHED THAT THERE'S A COMMUNITY NEED.
THERE MIGHT BE A BUSINESS NEED, BUT THERE'S NOT A COMMUNITY NEED, UH, FOR THIS EVENT TO TAKE PLACE.
UM, A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE ARE GONNA ADDRESS SOME OF THE TOPICS THAT WERE ON THE, THE PRIOR SLIDE AROUND SAFETY, TRAFFIC, SECURITY, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO THOSE DETAILS.
WHAT I DID WANT TO TOUCH ON IS BANDITS RIDGE IS A COMPARABLE, BECAUSE THIS IS A VENUE THAT IS ON BROAD STREET, SIMILAR SIZE.
UH, IT WAS 2083 OR 25 ACRES, I THINK ON THAT TABLE.
THE RESIDENTS ACTUALLY LIVE ON THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY BEHIND THE FACILITIES.
THERE'S ONE NEIGHBOR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY THAT DOES HAVE LINE OF SIGHT TO THE BUILDINGS.
UH, ANOTHER ONE WHO'S CLOSE PROXIMITY, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE IT BECAUSE OF THE TREE LINES.
THE OPPOSITION FOR THIS, UH, C U P CAME FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT, UH, VERY LARGE DENSE TREE GROWTH, UH, ROUGHLY 1500 FEET AWAY FROM THE EVENTS.
I TOOK THESE PICTURES THIS PAST SUNDAY, IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
IT'S VERY MUCH IN KEEPING WITH THE COUNTY, UH, LOOK AND RURAL FEEL, UM, THAT IS EXPECTED OF ANY BUSINESS THAT RUNS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
WITHIN THEIR C U P AT BANDIT RIDGE, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO STAND UP A BARN.
THEY HAD INITIALLY STARTED WITH A TENT, AND WHEN THEY FOUND OUT THEY NEEDED A C U P, THE COUNTY REQUIRED THAT THEY STAND UP.
TENTS WERE NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE COUNTY.
PORTA-POTTIES WERE NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE COUNTY, SO THEY WERE RESTRICTED FROM USING THOSE.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, SOUND WAS CONTROLLED.
THEY HAVE TO TAKE SOUND MEASUREMENTS AT THE EDGE OF THEIR PROPERTIES AFTER EACH EVENT AND REPORT IT BACK TO, UH, TO THE COUNTY.
THAT'S NONE OF THOSE CONDITIONS, UH, OR EVEN CONSIDERED IN THIS, THIS CURRENT APPLICATION.
SOME MORE RESTRICTIONS, UM, THAT FALL ON THEM.
SOME OF THESE ARE CAPTURED WITHIN THE, THE CAPITAL BROAD APPLICATION.
BUT, UH, WE JUST LEFT 'EM IN HERE FOR YOU.
EXCUSE ME, FOR YOUR REFERENCE.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO, UH, THE PROPOSED PROPERTY FOR THIS EVENT.
HERE'S SOME PICTURES FROM THE ADJOINING PROPERTY, UH, LINES.
UH, MIKE, WHO'S GONNA SPEAK AFTER ME, UH, WOULD HAVE THIS VIEW
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FROM THE BACKSIDE.MY HOUSE IS ON THE, THE, UH, EAST SIDE, AS I MENTIONED, AND TWO TO 300 GOLFERS A DAY WOULD BE TRAVELING TO THE, THE EAST SIDE OF, OF THIS PROPERTY.
SO, IN SUMMARY, WE DON'T FEEL THEY MEANT THAT OR ESTABLISHED A CLEAR NEED, UH, FOR THIS C U P.
WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE APPROPRIATE SAFEGUARDS ARE IN PLACE.
A NUMBER OF THE CONDITIONS HAVEN'T MET, BEEN MET, THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE WANT TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES.
WE SO FULLY SUPPORT THE VILLAGE CONCEPT.
UH, MR. COSTELLO AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY ON PROJECTS SINCE 2006 AROUND THE VILLAGE STRATEGY.
WE WOULD RECOMMEND YOU DENY THIS APPLICATION BECAUSE OF THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WE SHARED, THE LACK OF NEED, UH, THE LACK OF CONTROLS NOT WITHIN THE COUNTY, AND NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY, UH, REQUIREMENTS.
AND THANK YOU FOR ADHERING TO YOUR TIME ON IT.
SO I BELIEVE YOU HAD TWO MINUTES PROVIDED TO YOU.
GOOD EVENING AT FIVE 12 STREET SHOP ROAD.
GOOD EVENING, MIKE LUSKO AND I LIVE AT TWO 20 BROAD STREET ROAD IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, AFTER 17 YEARS IN HENRICO COUNTY, WE LEFT IN 2011 AND PURCHASED OUR HOME THAT IS SURROUNDED BY RECREATIONAL AND AGRICULTURAL LANDS.
THIS IMMEDIATE AREA IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF WHAT GLAND COUNTY HAS TO OFFER THAT CAN'T BE FOUND IN NEARBY HIGH DENSITY SUBURBAN AREAS.
ONE OF THE BEST CHARACTERISTICS OF LIVING IN THE AREA IS THE EFFORTS MADE BY SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS TO BE GOOD AND CONSIDERATE NEIGHBORS.
IN 2020, WHEN THE APPLICANT PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND CONTINUED TO RESIDE IN HENRICO COUNTY, I WENT OUT OF MY WAY TO GET TO KNOW THEM AND, UH, EXPRESS MY, I REQUESTED THAT THEY KEEP ME IN THE LOOP ON THEIR PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY.
UNFORTUNATELY, I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING FROM THEM UNTIL JUST PRIOR TO THE NOVEMBER 15TH MEETING.
ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA DIVE INTO THE, UH, THE HOT BUTTON TOPICS OF SIGHT AND SOUND.
I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THE APPLICATION CALLS FOR AND WHAT WE SEE AS REMAINING OPEN QUESTIONS.
AND I WILL REITERATE WHAT GREG SAID, THAT WE DID RECEIVE SOME NEW INFORMATION TONIGHT IN THE, IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE AS LATE AS FRIDAY.
SO FORGIVE ME IF I REPEAT SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW COMING INTO THE MEETING TONIGHT.
THE FIRST REQUEST IS A HUNDRED PERSON CAPACITY.
DOES THIS INCLUDE THE STAFF? SO WILL IT END UP BEING 110 OR 120? WHO AND HOW WILL ATTENDANCE BE LIMITED? WHO'S GONNA COUNT? AND HOW WILL THE CROWDS BE CONTROLLED IF THEY BECOME UNRULY? THESE, AGAIN, ARE OPEN QUESTIONS IN OUR MIND.
THE NEXT THING THAT THE, THAT THE APPLICATION CALLS FOR IS THE TEMPORARY TENTS AND PORTA-POTTIES.
THIS IS AN ENORMOUS HOT BUTTON ISSUE FOR ALL OF US, BUT PARTICULARLY FOR ME, THIS IS MY PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
SO I AM TOTALLY EXPOSED TO THIS HOUSE.
AND LISA, IF YOU COULD PLEASE GO BACK TO SLIDE 12 WITH THE PHOTOS, OR IS THIS FROM GREG'S PRESENTATION? YES, MAYBE I CAN DO IT.
SO YEAH, THIS IS THE VIEW, UM, STANDING IN MY DRIVEWAY DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THE HOUSE.
THE TWO PICTURES ON THE LEFT ARE DIRECTLY TO THE EAST, AND THEN THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS MORE FROM MY HOME LOOKING SOUTH UP TOWARD THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE GARAGE AND THE HOUSE.
AND, AND SO THAT AREA RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE WHERE YOU SEE ALL THOSE TREES, IS WHERE THAT TENT'S GONNA GO AND WHERE THE PORTA-POTTIES ARE GONNA GO AND WHERE THE TREES ARE GONNA COME OUT.
SO THAT GIVES YOU CONTEXT FOR WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
GOING BACK TO TENTS AND PORTA-POTTIES, THAT CAN REMAIN UP FOR THREE DAYS AFTERWARDS.
THERE WAS A, A VERY GOOD POINT QUESTION EARLIER
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BY SUSAN.IF WE HAVE AN EVENT ON SUNDAY, THAT MEANS THAT THE TENTS AND PORTA-POTTIES CAN REMAIN UNTIL WEDNESDAY.
WE HAVE ANOTHER EVENT ON FRIDAY.
YOU WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY WOULD GO BACK IN ON FRIDAY, UH, MAYBE THURSDAY.
SO, SO IF YOU BOOKEND THOSE EVERY WEEKEND, YOU COULD END UP WITH ONE DAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE PORTA-POTTIES AND TENTS RIGHT NEXT TO ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES.
AND, AND REALLY AN EXPOSED, AN EXPOSED SITE.
UM, I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO TRASH CANS.
IN AN OPEN FIELD, WHICH MUST BE COLLECTED IN THREE DAYS, HOW FAR WILL THE TRASH HAVE BLOWN BY THREE DAYS? WE HAVE UNPAVED PARKING FOR 25 CARS WITH A HUNDRED GUESTS AND STAFF, YOU'LL HAVE APPROXIMATELY 40 TO 50 CARS.
WHAT WILL PREVENT GUESTS FROM TAKING THE ROAD TO THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY? UM, IT'S NOT REALLY SHOWN ON ANY, ANY OF THE IMAGES WE'RE LOOKING AT, BUT THERE IS A ROAD THAT CONTINUES NORTH TOWARD TUCKAHOE CREEK.
SO YOU COULD DRIVE WELL PAST THE PROPERTY DOWN TO THE CREEK.
WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WOULD BE CONTROLLED.
UM, WE DID HEAR A LITTLE SOMETHING TONIGHT ON LIGHTING.
PRIOR TO THAT, WE HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT DARK SKY COMPLIANT LIGHTING, AMPLIFIED MUSIC LASTING UNTIL 10:00 PM DO ALL ACTIVITIES END AT 10:00 PM WE DON'T KNOW.
UH, WHAT TIME DOES THE PROPERTY NEED TO BE CLEARED FROM GUESTS AND CARS? IS IT 10? IS IT 10 30? IS IT MIDNIGHT? AND HOW WILL THAT BE POLICED, AMPLIFIED MUSIC? AGAIN, I'LL GO INTO THAT MORE ON THE SOUND SIDE.
UM, WHO WILL ENFORCE THE CURFEW, WHO WILL CLEAR THE PROPERTY AND MANAGE THAT 40 TO 50 CARS, PULLING OUT WHO WILL MANAGE THE 40 TO 50 CARS, PULLING OUT ONTO A 55 MILE AN HOUR STATE HIGHWAY IN THE DARK AFTER ALCOHOL'S BEEN SERVED? HUGE TRAFFIC CONCERNS THERE.
UM, LASTLY, ON SITE, IF THERE HAD BEEN A COMMERCIAL EVENT SPACE IN EXISTENCE AT THE TIME, WE WOULDN'T HAVE PURCHASED OUR HOME.
WE, WE DEFINITELY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT.
UM, THE LAST POINT IS THE COUNTY'S MADE A LARGE INVESTMENT IN THE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE PLAN, WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED WITH PORTA-POTTIES AND TENTS AND TRASH CANS WILL BE THE FIRST PROPERTY YOU SEE AT THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE VILLAGE.
HOW MUCH TIME IS REMAINING? 50 SECONDS.
UM, ALL RIGHT, SOUND 30 OUT OF 35.
THERE'S 35 WEEKENDS IN THEIR, IN THEIR EIGHT MONTH WINDOW.
WE COULD HAVE 30 WEEKENDS WHERE WE HAD THAT SOUND, THAT ACTIVITY GOING ON WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO ENJOY OUR PROPERTY.
THE APPLICATION DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE IN KEEPING WITH THE PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE AND ZONING ORDINANCES.
THEREFORE, I REQUEST THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DENY FOR A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS INSIDE AN A TWO RURAL ENHANCEMENT ZONE THAT WILL INEVITABLY AND SUBSTANTIALLY DISTURB AND INTERFERE WITH THE PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT OF NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, MY NAME IS MARSHA BIGGERS.
I LIVE ON, UM, BROWNFIELD LANE, 1806.
NO ONE'S ADDRESSED WEST OF THIS PROPERTY.
UM, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, I STEPPED OUT ON MY BACK PORCH TO LET THE DOGS OUT AGAIN.
AND, UM, I STOPPED IN MY TRACKS BECAUSE IT'S FEBRUARY AND I HEARD TREE FROGS, AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY I CAME BACK TO GLAND COUNTY.
I GREW UP IN GLAND COUNTY, PROBABLY BEFORE A LOT OF YOU EVEN KNEW IT EXISTED.
UM, THERE'S A CERTAIN ELEGANCE TO GLAND COUNTY THAT I'M AFRAID WILL LOSE WITH THIS SORT OF CREEPING INTO THE COUNTY.
UM, AFTER BEING AWAY A LOT OF YEARS AND COMING HOME, IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING TO SEE SOME OF THE BITS AND PIECES THAT I LOVE AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN SPECIAL.
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GWIN COUNTY, EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE HERE.WHEN I CAME BACK, I DID NOT PICK A SPOT TO LIVE THAT I WAS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO A NEIGHBOR ON PURPOSE.
I COULD HAVE DONE THAT IN HENRICO COUNTY.
SO PLEASE, LET'S NOT LET WHAT I SEE AS SOMETHING NEEDLESS BE RIGHT ON THE EDGE OF WHAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO EVEN MAKE BETTER.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ENJOY MY NIGHTS OUT TOO, ON MY PATIO, MY FRONT PORCH.
EVEN COYOTES, WHICH I DIDN'T KNOW EXISTED THAT MANY YOS AGO OUT HERE.
UM, AND, UH, A DOG BARKING IN THE DISTANCE.
THE UNWANTED DEN OF MUSIC THAT I DIDN'T SELECT IS GONNA ENC CROUCH UPON THAT.
AND FOR THE REST OF MY NEIGHBORS ON ROUND FIELD LANE, WE'RE NOT THAT FAR AWAY.
THIS IS NOT MADE FOR TALL PEOPLE.
I SEE
DESHAUN CHAPMAN, RESIDENT OF 2025 SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE.
I WANTED TO SHARE PERSPECTIVE, UH, AND SHARE A STORY WITH Y'ALL TO REALLY, UM, GIVE YOU CLARITY AROUND SOME CONCERNS THAT I HAVE PERSONALLY AS WELL AS MY NEIGHBORS.
UH, I ACTUALLY MOVED FROM A HIGH GROVE AREA OR HIGH GROVE COUNTY, UH, CHESTERFIELD COUNTY.
UM, MY WIFE AND I, WE LIVED THERE FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS WITH, UH, MY, MY TWO DAUGHTERS.
AND, UM, YOU PROBABLY KNOW THIS, BUT A GOOD PART OF, UH, CHESTERFIELD COUNTY IN PARTICULAR HALL STREET WAS DAIRY FARMS. AND WE WITNESSED THAT, UH, MASSIVE GROWTH AS DEVELOPERS BUILT, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMUNITIES AND BUSINESSES AS FAST AS THEY COULD.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY, THE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE ROAD DIDN'T KEEP UP WITH THAT GROWTH.
SO IF I DIDN'T LEAVE WORK EARLY ENOUGH OR COME HOME LATE ENOUGH, THEN I SPENT A GOOD DEAL OF TIME IN TRAFFIC, RIGHT? SO THOSE ARE THE CHALLENGES OF GROWTH.
SO AFTER OUR TWO DAUGHTERS, UH, LEFT FOR COLLEGE, MY WIFE AND I, WE FLED CHESTERFIELD COUNTY AND, UH, DECIDED TO UPSIZE.
AND WE SPENT A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND MONEY LOOKING FOR OUR DREAM HOME.
AND SO WE HAD A, A REQUIREMENT, UH, THAT HAD TO BE MET BEFORE US TO DECIDE.
AND SO WE FINALLY DISCOVERED, UH, GOOCHLAND OR THE G***H AS SOME PEOPLE, UH, AFFECTIONATELY CALL.
UH, IN PARTICULAR, WE FOUND SYCAMORE CREEK GOLF COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, ALTHOUGH THE PROPERTY WAS TWICE AS MUCH, IT, IT CHECKED ALL THE BOXES.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IT BACKED UP TO A GOLF COURSE.
UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS PEACEFUL.
UH, WE KNEW THE AREA WAS ZONED TO PROTECT IT, SO WE FELT REALLY GOOD ABOUT AN INVESTMENT.
SO WE DECIDED TO MAKE THAT INVESTMENT.
AND WE MOVED INTO A HOME IN NOVEMBER, UH, 2020.
AND SO SINCE THEN, WE'VE HAVE THOROUGHLY ENJOYED OUR DREAM HOME.
UH, WE ENJOY THE NEIGHBORS, WE ENJOY NATURE, THE SERENITY, EVEN THE GRACKLES THAT RAID THE, UH, BIRD FEEDERS.
UM, OUR HOME HAS BECOME OUR OASIS AND OUR RESPITE AND PLACE OF REFUGE.
UM, MY WIFE AND I OCCASIONALLY SPEND TIME ON THE DECK IN THE EVENINGS, SMILING AT EACH OTHER AS WE AS STRUCK OF HOW RELAXING AND QUIET OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS.
UM, THE, THE REASON WHY I'M HERE TODAY IS TO, UH, JOIN BOL OF MY NEIGHBOR'S CONCERN.
UH, I DID NOT ANTICIPATE WHEN I MADE THAT INVESTMENT, UH, SOME YEARS AGO, THAT THERE WOULD BE ADJOINING PROPERTY THAT YOU SEE THERE THAT WOULD HOST A WEDDING VENUE WITH A TENT AND PORTA-POTTIES AND LARGE GATHERING OF, OF, YOU KNOW, ALCOHOL USAGE.
SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME YOU GUYS WAKE UP AND GO TO BED.
I WAKE UP AT FOUR, I'LL GO TO BED AT NINE, RIGHT? SO NOT 10:00 PM.
AND ONE THING I WANNA MAKE YOU QUICKLY AWARE OF, UH, ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, UH, WE HEARD THIS NOISE, RIGHT? THIS MUSIC, AND IT WASN'T MY GENRE, SO I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHAT TYPE OF MUSIC IT WAS.
AND SO MY WIFE AND I, WE WALKED AROUND THE HOUSE, WE TRIED TO FIGURE IT OUT, AND SO ONLY TO FIGURE OUT, UH, TO TALK TO GREG, MY NEIGHBOR, UH, AND HE HEARD THE SAME NOISE.
HE CLEARLY REMEMBERED IT, AND IT CAME FROM THIS PROPERTY.
SO THIS GAVE US A PRELUDE OR PREVIEW INTO WHAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY DEAL WITH.
I DON'T WANT TO BE THE NOISE POLICE.
I DON'T WANNA BE THE TRAFFIC POLICE.
I WANNA ENJOY MY INVESTMENT ALONG WITH MY NEIGHBORS.
RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
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THOMAS.I AM ON 2006 SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE.
WE LIVED IN HENRICO FOR 20 YEARS, ALMOST 20 YEARS IN 23.
WE LOVE THE PEACE AND QUIET HERE, AND WE MADE A BIG INVESTMENT.
UM, I ALSO BOUGHT ANOTHER FOUR ACRE OF PLOT, RIGHT, RIGHT ACROSS SIGMA CREEK DRIVE.
SO I HAVE TWO PROPERTIES HERE.
UM, MY MAIN CONCERN, I HAVE TWO CONCERNS.
ONE IS TRAFFIC, AND THE SECOND IS SAFETY.
SO IN SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE, WE ARE LUCKY BECAUSE WE HAVE A RIGHT LANE SO THE TRAFFIC CAN GET INTO THE RIGHT LANE AND GET INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WHEREAS THIS PROPERTY WHERE THE CUP IS BEING ASKED, YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT LANE.
SO WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THE TRAFFIC WILL BACK UP WHEN PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GET INTO THEIR PROPERTY.
AND RIGHT NOW, FOR US TO MAKE A LEFT TURN, GOING, UH, EAST ON BROAD TAKES 10 TO 15 MINUTES.
SO THAT'S GONNA COMPOUND THE TIME THAT WE WANNA SPEND JUST WAITING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE OTHER ASPECT ALSO IS IT'S ROLLING, UH, BROAD SEA ROAD.
SO THE SPEED LIMIT IS 45 MILES PER HOUR, THEN IT BECOMES 55 RIGHT IN FRONT OF TWO 50 PRO SEAT ROAD.
IT'S GONNA BE A FLASHPOINT FOR ACCIDENTS.
AND I'M REALLY CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO INGRESS AND EGRESS OUT OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY BARRIERS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, COMPOUND WALLS OR PICKET FENCES OR ANYTHING THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN EVENT.
I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO GO HAVE A COUPLE OF DRINKS, MAYBE FEW MORE, AND THEN I JUST VO AROUND.
I MAY END UP IN GREG'S PROPERTY AND GREG IS LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA BE RESPECTFUL.
UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, THE 13 FAMILIES IN SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE COLLECTIVELY HAVE INVESTED MORE THAN, I WANNA SAY, 20 MILLION.
AND WE WANT TO RETAIN THE CHARACTER AND THE PEACE AND THE QUIET OF WHAT WE HAVE INVESTED.
AND I RESPECTFULLY, UH, UH, REQUEST THE BOARD OF CONSULATE OUR CONSULTS.
PRETTY NEW HERE TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT, UM, NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE UP PEER PERSON, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTING, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, 13 OR SO PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND OBVIOUSLY ABROAD AS WELL.
I'M RESIDE AT 2001 SMORE CREEK DRIVE, RIGHT HERE IN MANNEQUIN SABOT.
AND, UM, I'M HERE TO VOICE, UH, MY ADDITIONAL CONCERNS REGARDING, UM, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR, UH, THE CAPITOL BROAD'S WEDDING AND AIRBNB VENUE IN TERMS OF ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH THE GLAND COUNTY ORDINANCES DEFINED IN ARTICLE 25 OF THE GLAND COUNTY LIGHTING CODE.
UM, THAT'S ALSO PROMOTED WITH THE IS STANDARDS, WHICH IS THE ELIMINATING ENGINEERING SOCIETY OF NORTH AMERICA AND THEIR STANDARD COMPLIANCE.
UM, AS FAR AS, UH, CUTOFF FIXTURES AND DARK SKY INITIATIVES.
SO, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH KNOWING WHAT WEDDING VENUE VENUES WOULD TYPICALLY TAKE, ALBEIT, YOU KNOW, FLOOD LIGHTING, OMNI-DIRECTIONAL FEST, TUNE TYPE LIGHTING, UM, GENERAL SAFETY AREA, LIGHTING FOR PARKING, THEATRICAL LIGHTING IN SOME CASES AS WELL.
UM, ACTUALLY IN, IN MY PROFESSION, UM, A COMMERCIAL LIGHTING, UM, AND INDUSTRIAL, UH, SPECIALISTS.
SO I ACTUALLY WORK WITH ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, LINE DESIGNERS.
UM, SO VERY FAMILIAR WITH A LOT OF THAT CODE.
AND I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, AS A LIGHTING EXPERT TO UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT IT, UH, YOU KNOW, IT CAN PRESENT WITH THESE COUNTY REGULATIONS TO SPECIFY PROPER AND APPROPRIATE LIGHTING, UM, TECHNOLOGY THAT DOES NOT TRESPASS ON NEARBY ADJACENT RESIDENCE PROPERTIES AND ALSO DOES NOT SHINE, UM, AGAIN, WITH, UH, COCO COMPLIANCE AND TO ANY, UH, DIRECT RESIDENCE, UM, POINT OF VIEW OR INTO THEIR INTERIOR OF THEIR HOUSE.
SO REALLY WANT TO, UH, DRAW ATTENTION TO SOME OF THOSE BOUNDARIES.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THE PROPERTY'S CONTAINING, UM, THOSE LIGHTING FIXTURES, UH, CODE STATES THAT LIGHTING, UH, IS NOT TO TRESPASS AND NOT TO EXCEED HALF FOOT CANDLE, UM, AT SOME OF THOSE, UM, AT THE PROPERTY LINES IN, UM, LOCATIONS.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS A WEDDING VENUE, I HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A HARD TIME IMAGINING THAT A LOT OF THAT, UH, LIGHTING WILL NOT BE TRESPASSING, AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, AT A MINIMUM OF A, YOU KNOW, 0.5 FOOT CANDLES.
UM, BUT, UH, FINALLY AS WELL, AGAIN, LIKE, LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE MENTIONED, I DIDN'T REALLY SEE A TON OF THE, THE NEW INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED.
UM, I, I THINK THERE IS, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN WAYS THAT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, UH, ACCOMPLISH THIS, BUT IT IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY KIND OF LIGHTING PLANS FOR OR ANY FORMAL SUBMITTAL TO, TO THE COUNTY AS WELL.
SO WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE SEEING PHOTOMETRICS IN THAT REGARD.
I'M ROB WILLIAMSON AND I LIVE AT 2262 WHEATLAND DRIVE, MANNEQUIN SABBA.
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IS THE MOST POPULAR WEDDING DANCE SONG? DON'T KNOW ME EITHER, BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO HEAR IT.EVERY WEEKEND FROM MARCH TO OCTOBER
CENTERVILLE IS AN AREA THAT, UH, MAKES THIS, THIS PROPERTY LOCATED BETWEEN HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
THE 15 ACRES ZONED A TWO DESIGNATED RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA PER THE COMP PLAN.
THE COMP PLAN GOES ON TO SAY THAT RES PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN THE RURAL CHARACTER OF A COMMUNITY, ALSO PROMOTE HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURAL AND SITE DESIGNS COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA.
IN CHAPTER THREE IT SAYS, NEW RURAL COMMERCIAL USES ARE TO HAVE SCOPE AND SCALE CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO DOES THIS APPLICATION SOUND LIKE IT MEETS THE SITE DESIGN THAT'S COMPATIBLE AND CONSISTENT WHEN NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND A RURAL ASSESSMENT AREA? THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.
AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THE PROVISION 33 FOR THE EXPIRATION GIVES THE CU A ONE YEAR DURATION.
THE C THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TIME TO OPEN THE BUSINESS AND DEMONSTRATE HOW IT OPERATES, WILL DEMONSTRATE WHAT AND TO WHOM THERE ARE NO DETAILS OF WHAT A SUCCESSFUL TRIAL PERIOD LOOKS LIKE.
SO HOW DO YOU MAKE THE DECISION TO ME, CONTRARY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S, FIVE TO NOTHING APPROVAL.
THE ONE YEAR DEMONSTRATES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS A LACK OF CONFIDENCE THAT THE APPLICANT WILL BE SUCCESSFUL IN MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS, MINIMIZE AND IMPACTS AND BEING A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY.
NOW, THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION CUZ I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THAT'S THE INDICATION I GET.
SO AFTER A YEAR, IF THEY DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO MITIGATE THE CONCERNS, THEN WHAT A DENIAL THEN OR ANOTHER YEAR TO IMPROVE THE SITE DESIGN.
AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SINCE THERE'S NO TRIAL PERIOD CRITERIA, THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED.
SO IN MY OPINION, THIS THIS REQUEST IS TOO RELIANT ON BEING A SMALL BUSINESS OVER BEING A GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN, MEETING PUBLIC NEED, IMPROVING THE GENERAL WELFARE FOR BLENDED INTO THE COMMUNITY.
PLEASE VOTE NO THANK YOU MR. WILLIAMSON.
THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS THE CHICKEN DANCE
I, AND NOW WE KNOW, AND I'M NOT GONNA ASK HOW MR. STU HOUR KNOWS THAT MANY NORTHEAST PENNSYLVANIA WEDDINGS.
UH, JONATHAN LYLE 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
AND, UH, I'M SPEAKING TONIGHT ASKING THAT THE BOARD DENY THIS C U P REQUEST AND MY REASONS ARE BASED ON THE FORCED FIFTH ASPECTS OF THIS C U P REQUEST.
I VIEW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS AN ADVISORY GUIDELINE TO GIVE EXISTING RESIDENTS AND NEW RESIDENTS INFORMATION ON HOW THE PLAN COUNTY PLANS GROW.
AS SUCH, THE COMP PLAN GIVES A SENSE OF COMFORT AND SECURITY TO EXISTING RESIDENTS.
THEY KNOW THAT WHEN USED FOR GUIDANCE COMP PLAN GIVES A GENERAL ASSURANCE WHAT KIND OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT MIGHT OCCUR.
THE COMP PLAN ALSO GIVES NEW RESIDENTS AND AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE GUIDELINES FOR PROPERTY ARE THAT THEY ARE BUYING.
AND WHEN THEY COME TO GOLAND, IT HELPS 'EM UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROPERTY THEY'RE BUYING IS NOT INTENDED FOR CERTAIN USES.
YES, CHANGES ARE POSSIBLE, BUT THEY ARE NOT BY, RIGHT? SO HOW SHOULD THIS SPECIFIC C P BE EVALUATED? WELL, THERE IS THE PETERSON DOCTRINE, A PROCESS WHERE THE C U P REQUEST IS MADE.
EVERYBODY AGREES AND EVERYBODY GOES HOME HAPPY.
THERE IS THE GOOD NEIGHBOR APPROACH A PROCESS WHERE THIS, THE DISRUPTIONS TO THE STATUS QUO ARE MINIMIZED AND EVERY POSSIBLE ACCOMMODATION TO CURRENT RESIDENTS ARE MADE.
AND THEN THERE IS THE KEEP THE FAITH PROCESS, ONE THAT RECOGNIZES THAT CURRENT GUC CITIZENS MADE PURCHASES INVESTMENT DECISIONS BASED ON THE COMP PLANS GUIDANCE.
AND THOSE SHOULD BE RESPECTED.
THESE CURRENT GUC AND RESIDENTS MADE HOME PURCHASE DECISIONS TRUSTING THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE FACED WITH A DISRUPTIVE COMMERCIAL OPERATION BEING ALLOWED TO LOCATE UNDER NEARBY PROPERTY.
A DENIAL TONIGHT WILL KEEP FAITH WITH CITIZENS ALREADY HERE.
CONSTITUENTS USE THE BEST INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THEM WITH BELIEF THAT THEIR PURCHASE INVESTMENT DECISIONS WOULD BE RESPECTED AND PROTECTED.
THE SIMPLE QUESTION TONIGHT IS, WILL GOLAND COUNTY'S RESIDENTS BE BETTER OFF WITH THE C U P GRANTED THEM THAN THEY WOULD BE WITHOUT IT? I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT.
AS PRESENTED, THIS C U P REQUEST FOR
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AN ADVANCED BUSINESS AT DISLOCATION GETS A BETTER OFF YES ANSWER.AND PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS REQUEST HAS ALREADY BEEN DEFERRED ONCE, UH, TO GIVE THE APPLICANT TIME TO RESEARCH THE PETERSON DOCTRINE, THE GOOD NEIGHBOR SOLUTION.
SO DENYING THE APPLICATION WILL GIVE THE APPLICANT A YEAR TO EXPLORE A SOLUTION IF ONE EXISTS.
BY DOING THAT DENYING GUC AND WILL KEEP THE FAITH WITH THE COMP PLAN AND WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS, PLEASE VOTE TO DENY.
I'M AT 1221 BRENER RIDGE AND IE.
UM, MY NAME IS PAUL COSTELLO AND I LIVE AT 2011 SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE IN MANNEQUIN SABBA.
UM, I WANNA JUST RECAP WHAT YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT AS BRIEFLY AS I CAN.
CAPITAL BROAD'S LLC PROPERTY IS ZONED A TWO.
IT IS NOT PART OF THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT AND IT IS NOT WITHIN THE COUNTY'S DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS.
IT ALSO ADJOINS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP, TUCK HILL CREEK IS IN BLUE.
THE SERVICE DISTRICT, THE ORANGE COLOR IS WHAT IS DEFINED IN THE COMP PLAN AS THE CORE VILLAGE AREA.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS IS A TWO NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, MOST OF WHICH YOU HEARD TONIGHT.
UM, IT'S SIMPLY NOT THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTED USE.
A TWO ZONING OFFERS MANY USES BY RIGHT THAT DO NOT REQUIRE A C U P.
HOWEVER, CAPITAL ABROAD IS SEEKING TO OPERATE AN UNHOSTED SHORT-TERM RENTAL ALONG WITH A TENT AND PORTA PARTY OPERATION AS A PRIMARY EVENT SPACE.
THIS REQUESTED USE WOULD BE THE FIRST OF ITS KIND IN GLAND.
AS YOU HAVE HEARD TONIGHT, ALL COMPARATIVE CUS HAVE REQUIRED PERMANENT STRUCTURES AND INDOOR BATHROOM FACILITIES AS THEIR PRIMARY SPACE AND MUST COMPLY WITH A NUMBER OF VERY SPECIFIC AND LIMITING CONDITIONS.
WE SHARED OUR CONCERNS AND IDENTIFIED A LOT OF RED FLAGS WITH THIS APPLICATION.
MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS REMAIN ABOUT HOW THE APPLICANT WOULD ACHIEVE SAFE IN ORDERLY OPERATIONS CAPITAL BROAD LLC HAS NOT PROVIDED MEASURABLE SAFEGUARDS TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS IN THE CONTINUED USE AND ENJOYMENT OF OUR PROPERTY, NOR HAS CAPITAL BROAD DEMONSTRATED HOW ONGOING COMPLIANCE WITH C U B CONDITIONS AND REQ AND REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE ACHIEVED.
THE APPLICANT SAYS SHE IS FLEXIBLE AND THAT SHE WANTS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, BUT SHE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT A GOOD NEIGHBOR IS.
THE APPLICANT DOES NOT LIVE IN THE COUNTY AND DOES NOT HAVE THE EVENT PLANNING EXPERIENCE NECESSARY TO RUN A SAFE AND ORDERLY OPERATION AS BEING PROPOSED.
FURTHERMORE, THE COUNTY'S STAFF REPORT APPEARS INCOMPLETE BASED ON REPRESENTATIONS MADE BY THE APPLICANT'S INTENDED USE.
OFFERING AN UNHOSTED SHORT-TERM PROPERTY RAISES ADDITIONAL OPERATING CRIME AND SAFETY CONCERNS.
SHORT-TERM RENTERS TEND TO TAKE OVER THE PROPERTY THEY TEMPORARILY USE WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS OR THE IMPACT OR HARM THEY MAY INFLICT ON THE LAND OR THE BORDERING CREEK AS NEIGHBORS.
WE DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO POLICE HOW LONG THE TENTS AND PORTA PARTIES REMAIN UP OR WHEN THEY NEED TO BE CLEANED, NOR DO YOU WANT TO HAVE TO TRACK DOWN CAPITAL BROAD EVERY TIME WE ENCOUNTER A POTENTIAL VIOLATION OF THE C U P.
FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, THE APPLICANT IS SIMPLY NOT INVESTED THE NECESSARY CAPITAL AND RESOURCES AS COMPARED TO OTHER RELEVANT CUS TO ENSURE THAT THE SHORT TERM RENTAL AND EVENT VENUE WILL BE A BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY
IN SUMMARY, CAPITAL BROAD HAS FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE HOW THIS ENTITY WOULD PROTECT NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES FROM THE IMPACT OF THE C U P CAPITAL.
BROAD HAS ALSO FAILED TO SHOW HOW THE REQUESTED C U P IS A MATTER OF PUBLIC NECESSITY.
CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE ARE GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.
WE APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN, UNDERSTAND AND HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY EMPATHIZE WITH OUR CONCERNS.
WE HOPE THAT YOU RECOGNIZE OUR WILLINGNESS TO SHARE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE BELIEVE WOULD HELP PRESERVE AND PROTECT OUR COMMUNITY ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DENY CAPITAL BROAD'S C U P APPLICATION AT THIS TIME.
I LIVE AT 1817 BROWNFIELD LANE MANNEQUIN.
I UNDERSTAND AS FAR AS THE, THE NOISE WOULD UPSET US OF GOING OUT AND, AND ONTO OUR DECK AND ENJOYING THE, THE NATURAL ATMOSPHERE THAT WE'VE MOVED TO
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TWO YEARS AGO.I ALSO FEAR OF EVERYONE'S TIME OF COMING UP BROAD STREET AND AT THE TIME WOULD THEY BE LEAVING AND WITH ALCOHOL ABUSE AND ALL, AND WOULD ENDANGER THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
SO AS I DENY THIS REACTION, IT'S FOR MY FAMILY.
UH, 1860 ROUND FILLED LANE MANNEQUIN, SABBA.
I'D URGE, UH, A VOTE TO, UH, DENY THIS APPLICATION, UH, JUST DUE TO THE QUALITY OF LIFE.
YOU'VE HEARD ALL THESE PEOPLE SPEND THREE HOURS TONIGHT AND A LOT OF HOURS, UH, ON OTHER DAYS BECAUSE THEY FEEL IT'S IMPORTANT AND THAT, UM, UH, APPROVAL IS GONNA LEAD TO A DIMINUTION OF PEOPLE'S SATISFACTION WITH THEIR PROPERTIES LOOKING AT PORTA-POTTIES AND TENTS FIVE OR SIX DAYS OF THE WEEK.
UM, SO I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE TO APPROVE IT.
I LIVE AT 1817 ROUND FIELD LANE.
UM, WE'VE LIVED HERE ALMOST TWO YEARS.
IT TOOK A LOT FOR US TO FINALLY BE ABLE TO MOVE OUT HERE, WHICH WE CONSIDERED THE COUNTRY AND ENJOY ALL THE QUIET AND THE NATURAL NATURE SOUNDS AND EVERYTHING.
AND IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO BELIEVE THAT THE PLACE WE THOUGHT WE'D SPEND THE REST OF OUR LIVES COULD END UP BEING SO MUCH TRAFFIC AND NOISE.
AND I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE DANGER WITH THE DRINKING AND THE TRAFFIC, THE TRAFFIC'S BAD ENOUGH ON THE ROAD, LET ALONE HAVING ALL THAT NUM GREAT NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT AT ONE TIME.
I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOLKS, IF WE COULD TAKE 10 MINUTES AND, UH, AND WE WILL HEAR FROM THE APPLICATE WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT, UH, ANY RESPONSES TO THE BOARD, AND THEN WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SO 10 MINUTES, 10 AFTER NINE, PLEASE.
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FOLKS, IF WE, SORRY, HOT MIC.UM, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND ADDRESS ANY OF THE CONCERNS, UM, THAT THEY HAVE HEARD OR ADDRESS THE BOARD, FEEL FREE TO PLEASE.
UM, THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO SPOKE, WHO CAME HERE AND SPENT SOME TIME.
UM, I DID WANNA, UH, ADDRESS SOME CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE, UM, NEIGHBORS.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA START WITH NO EVEN MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE RAISED BY SIR GREG.
I DO NOT RECOLLECT YOUR LAST NAME, BUT MSHA PLEASE USE, YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
IT'S, UM, YEAH, COST, UH, CU MR. COSTELLO AND GREG SAID THAT NO EVEN MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE, WELL, EACH ENTREPRENEUR HAS TO START SOMEWHERE.
MR. GREG SAID HE HAS 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
AND, UM, AGAIN, SOME LEARN AS THEY GO, SOME ADAPT.
SOME ARE QUICKER TO ADAPT, SOME ARE SLOWER TO ADAPT.
AND I WANNA MAKE THAT STATEMENT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE EXPERIENCE COMES WITH, UM, AS YOU RUN THE EVENTS.
UM, SOME, UM, I WANTED TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS.
SO ALL THE NEIGHBORS ARE ENVISIONING AN EVEN PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, ALL 30 EVENTS WILL BE WEDDINGS.
WHEREAS I AM ENVISIONING THAT PLACE TO BE SUPER SMALL.
I WOULD LIKE TO START SMALL, AND THAT'S WHY THERE ISN'T A WHOLE LOT OF INVESTMENT THAT'S GOING IN BECAUSE I'M, I'M, UH, FOCUSED ON THE, UM, SMALLER EVENTS WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT READY TO SPEND EXTRAVAGANTLY.
SO THE GRADUATION PARTIES, THE BIRTHDAY PARTIES, THE CHARITY EVENTS.
SO THAT'S WHERE MAJORITY OF THE EVENTS ARE GONNA BE, NOT LIKE 30 EVENTS WHERE THE MUSIC IS GOING UP AND, YOU KNOW, AND YOU'LL HEAR THE SAME SONG FOR EVERY WEEKEND.
SO THAT'S NOT, UM, THAT'S NOT HOW I ENVISIONED IT.
UM, AND CAN I, IF I REFER BACK TO THAT PICTURE, IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY FOR ME TO WALK THERE, THAT'S OKAY.
SO THERE ARE, BUT, BUT COULD YOU DO IT FROM THE MICROPHONE PLEASE? SO THAT PEOPLE ONLINE CAN HEAR YOU.
UM, THERE ARE CONCERNS FROM THE, UH, CONCERNS ON THE ZONING BEING A TWO, THE QUIETNESS, THE NESS.
BUT IF YOU, UM, GUYS, UM, IMAGINE THAT PLACE FROM MANNEQUIN ROAD.
THERE ARE FIVE OR SIX LAND PARCELS.
THE FIRST ONE IS SATELLITE, WHICH IS RESTAURANT.
THE SECOND ONE IS APPROVED FOR MANNEQUIN CROSSINGS, WHICH IS A RETAIL SPACE.
AND THE THIRD, UH, AFTER THAT, THE, UH, GOLF COURSE IS THERE.
AND THEN THE PSYCHO, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY, THESE GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, THE VIRGINIA CUSTOM BUILDERS OR SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.
SO FROM MANNEQUIN ROAD AFTER MY PROPERTY, PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING IS NON-RESIDENTIAL EXCEPT FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO IS IT REALLY, UM, IS THAT EXPECTATION THAT JUST THIS PROPERTY STAYS AS AGRICULTURE WHEN THE REST OF IT IS COMMERCIAL SLASH SEMI-COMMERCIAL? THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS.
AND MR. LUSK POINTED OUT, UM, HIS HOUSE, UM, HIS HOUSE IS PRETTY UNIQUELY SITUATED.
IT IS, IT HAS LIKE A NARROW ROAD.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A COUNTY APPROVED ROAD OR A PRIVATE ROAD, BUT IT'S, IT'S STRAIGHT 90 DEGREES FROM BROAD STREET, AND THE PROPERTY IS TUCKED INSIDE.
WHEREAS THIS PROPERTY IS UP 10 TO 20 FEET AWAY FROM BROAD STREET WITH A FENCE.
AND THE, THE CARS THAT CAN COME IN CAN COME IN FROM, UM, THE EAST SIDE AND THEN GO STRAIGHT INTO THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THE CARS CAN COME OUT AND THEN WAIT THERE TOO.
IF YOU GO BACK TO THE CONCEPTUAL PLANNER, ONE OF THE PICTURES WITH THE, UH, FENCING, THERE ARE TWO CARS THAT CAN SIMULTANEOUSLY BE THERE, ONE GOING IN AND ONE COMING IN.
SO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED WITH RAISED BY THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE LIKE, OH, THE TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE BACKED UP ON BROAD STREET, THAT'S NOT A CONCERN BECAUSE THERE IS ENOUGH SPACE FOR CARS TO GO AND EVEN TAKE A U-TURN WITHOUT, UM, DISTURBING,
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WITHOUT STAYING ON BROAD STREET.SO THERE ARE COMPLETELY TWO DIFFERENT TRAFFIC EGRESS ENGLISH SITUATIONS AS, UM, AS RAISED BY SOME OF THE CONCERNS ARE AS RAISED BY SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, UM, I'M SORRY, I'M GOING THROUGH THE, UH, THINGS.
SO OBVIOUSLY, UM, NO TRESPASSING BOARDS WILL BE THERE TOWARD FOR, FOR ALL IN ALL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
SO, AND THEN THERE WILL BE THE APPLICANTS ARE THE CLIENTS HAVE TO SIGN.
THE CLIENTS HAVE TO SIGN, IF YOU CAN GIMME ONE SECOND PLEASE.
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A STRESSFUL SITUATION,
UM, SO NO TRESPASSING SIGNS IN ALL DIRECTIONS, UH, MAKING SURE THAT, AND IN, IN THE APPLICATION OR IN THE CONTRACT, THERE WILL BE A CLAUSE THAT FOLKS DO NOT CROSS THOSE LINES.
SO THE APPLIC, THE CLIENTS WILL SIGN THAT.
SO THAT WILL ENSURE THAT, UH, THE NEIGHBORS, UM, UM, PROPERTIES WILL NOT BE PASSED THROUGH.
AND ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE RAISED BY, UM, THE NEIGHBORS IS THAT IT'S A, A TWO ZONE, AND IT IS, IT DOES NOT PERMIT THE CONDITIONAL USERS.
IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THE A TWO ZONING OR THE CURRENT ZONING DOES ALLOW A PUBLIC EVENT PLACE AS A C U P.
IT DOESN'T GRANT RIGHT AWAY THE RIGHT ACCESS.
BUT THEN THERE IS A PROVISION TO APPLY FOR A C U P FOR THAT.
BEFORE I BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, WHEN I, UM, LOOKED AT IT, I DID, UH, DURING THE, UM, INITIAL 90 DAY, OR I FORGOT WHAT IT IS CALLED, THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD, I DID TALK TO THE COUNTY FOLKS, SAID, HEY, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE JUST A STRAIGHT NO, BUT THERE IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS THAT I HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
AND I HAVE INVESTORS SIGNIFICANTLY IN THERE TOO, WITH THE SAME IDEA.
AND, UM, MR. LASKO SAID THAT HE WENT A BOND BEYOND TO MEET ME IN THE BEGINNING.
BUT, UM, I A ACTUALLY WALKED TOWARDS THE END OF THE PROPERTY TO SAY, TO SAY HELLO TO HIM.
YES, GRANTED THAT HE WANTED TO KNOW MY PLANS IN ADVANCE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC, UH, MEETING IS FOR.
THAT'S WHAT THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR.
UM, AND THE P THE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE COMPARED IT WITH BANDIT RIDGE.
AND I DID HAVE AN APPENDIX IN MY PRESENTATION, BUT I CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
BANDIT RIDGE IS, IN MY OPINION, NO WAY COMPARABLE TO THE APPLICATION THAT I AM, UH, APPLYING FOR.
THE WAY THAT BANDIT RIDGE IS SITUATED, THE VENUE PLACE IS SITUATED IS IT'S WAY TOO CLOSE TO BROAD STREET, AND IT'S LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE NEIGHBOR HOUSE, NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSE.
AND FOR MY PROPERTY IN THE, THERE IS A RECTANGULAR 15 ACRE PROPERTY, AND THE VENUE IS SOMEWHERE IN LIKE ONE THIRD OF THE PROPERTY, ONE THIRD OF THE LENGTH AWAY FROM BROAD STREET.
SO IT'S NOT CLOSE TO BROAD STREET.
AND THE NEAREST PROPERTY THAT I HAVE IS LIKE THREE 50 FEET AWAY, WHICH IS, UH, THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO MY, TO MY, TO THE WEST.
THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE REPRESENTING TODAY ARE LIKE MINIMUM OF 500 FEET AWAY FROM MY PROPERTY.
SO THE BANDIT RIDGE COM, IN MY OPINION, IS NOT A FAILED COMPARISON FOR, FOR MY PROPERTY FROM, FROM A SOUND TRAVELING THROUGH ARE, UM, THE CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS, THEY'RE NOT COMPARABLE PROPERTIES.
UM, THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS, UH, FROM MR. LUBAN WHO'S GOING TO MONITOR AND WHO'S GOING TO, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, ENSURE THAT IT IS SAFE.
IT IS, IT APPLIES TO EVERY, EVERY C P THAT IS APPROVED.
I GUESS SOMEONE'S, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY MONITOR, BUT THE SAME STANDARDS WILL BE MANAGED WITH MINE TOO.
AND LIKE I SAID, SAID THERE IS EITHER AN EVEN MANAGER OR A PROPERTY OWNER WILL BE PRESENT THERE WHO ENSURE, WHO ENSURES THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS ARE OBEYED, UH, PEOPLE LEAVE BY 10 O'CLOCK.
AND, UM, SO ALL THOSE THINGS, ALL THOSE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED, THERE WILL BE A PERSON WHO'S MANAGING THEM.
SO, UM, THAT IS HOW I SEE IT IN, UM, TENTS AND PORTA PARTIES.
SO THE CONCERNS, SOME OF THE CONCERNS WERE LIKE RIGHT AFTER THE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE, UH, YOU'LL SEE, UH, THE TENTS IN THE PORTA PARTIES, THESE TENTS AND PORTA PARTIES WILL BE BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND THERE IS A GARAGE AND THE PICTURES ARE, SOME PICTURES ARE UP THERE, THERE IS A GARAGE.
AND THEN BEHIND THE GARAGE, THE PORTA PARTIES WILL BE SET UP AND, AND I'LL ENSURE THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF SCREENING AROUND IT SO THAT FOLKS DO NOT SEE IT.
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SPACE WHERE IT, IT'LL NOT BE VISIBLE, IT WILL NOT BE OBVIOUS TO PEOPLE.SO I, I CAN, I CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
UH, WELL PUT UP, UH, THE TENTS OBVIOUSLY ARE GONNA BE BEHIND THE HOUSE.
SO FOLKS WHO ARE TRAVELING ON BROAD STREET WILL NOT SEE A TENT LIKE UP ON THEIR FACE, BUT IT'LL BE BEHIND THE HOUSE.
SO THEY'LL PROBABLY SEE SOME CEILING OR SOMETHING OF THAT SIDE.
SO THE WAY THAT, UH, THE NEIGHBORS ARE ENVISIONING THE PROPERTY IS THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASSUMING A BUSY WEDDING PLACE FACING TOWARDS THE PROJECT, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW I ENVISION TO OPERATE IT.
IT'S GONNA BE, UM, SMALLER EVENTS BEHIND THE HOUSE WITH, WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND EVERY OTHER CONCERN THAT IS RAISED BEING ADDRESSED BY AN EVENT MANAGER.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO ADDRESS? UM, IF YOU CAN GIMME ONE SECOND, LET ME GO THROUGH IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, UM, THAT ARE NOT ADDRESSED YET.
IT, UM, YEAH, THE SOUNDS AND THE NOISE.
UM, I THINK GIVEN THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THAT IS, UM, ALREADY APPROVED FOR THAT REGION, I DON'T KNOW, UM, IF AN EVEN PLACE THAT ONLY OPERATES THREE DAYS A WEEK FOR FEW HOURS IN JUST 30 TIMES A YEAR WILL BE AS MUCH CONCERNING AS SOME OTHER, SOME OTHER COMMERCIAL OR SEMI-COMMERCIAL PLACES THAT ARE ALREADY APPROVED ON THERE.
UM, I KNOW THE NUMBER OF, UM, NEIGHBORS SEEMS LARGE, BUT IF YOU LOOK INTO THE PROPERTY, THERE'S ONE COMMUNITY THAT IS TOWARDS MY RIGHT AND THEN THERE ARE ARE FEW HOUSES BEHIND IT.
AND THEN THERE ARE FEW HOUSES, UM, PAST THE WEST.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITIES THAT IS GOING TO BE DISTURBED BY THIS.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE ARE THREE OR TWO COMMUNITIES AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO SAY.
SO WITH ALL THIS, UM, I BELIEVE I HAVE ADDRESSED, UM, ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED BY THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE, UM, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS NOT GONNA ADD MAJOR, UM, ECONOMICAL, UM, REVENUE GROWTH TO THE COUNTY, IT, THIS WILL HELP SMALL BUSINESSES THAT CATERS TO, UM, CELEBRATIONS AND PARTIES AND ALSO, UM, WEST END IS GROWING LIKE CRAZY.
AND THIS IS FIVE MILES FROM WEST END OF HENRICO.
AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE NATURAL, OR MAYBE EIGHT MILES OF MR. CHAIRMAN
UM, CUZ THERE ARE LOTS OF COMMUNITIES THAT ARE COMING UP.
PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO DRIVE TOO FAR AWAY.
PEOPLE WANT A SAFE PLACE AND THIS IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND IF, UM, THIS GETS DENIED, THERE WILL BE DOLLAR LEAK CAGE, TWO OTHER CO COUNTIES.
CUZ I DO CLEARLY SEE THAT THERE IS A CLEAR GAP OF PEOPLE NEEDING A PLACE TO CELEBRATE.
THE GROWING NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES NEED A PLACE TO CELEBRATE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME AT THE YES, I'M SURE THERE'S GONNA BE SEVERAL.
I'M GONNA JUMP THE LINE REAL QUICK BECAUSE I'M REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THAT IT, IT'S NOT COME THROUGH IN STAFF OR YOUR PRESENTATION OR THE QUESTIONS.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT POTENTIAL USES AND I'M CURIOUS HOW YOU'RE GOING, IF YOU'RE GOING TO MANAGE THEM AS ONE UNIT.
SO DO YOU ENVISION A TIME WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE THE EVENTS GOING ON ON A FRIDAY, SATURDAY OR SUNDAY AND ALSO SOMEBODY NOT AFFILIATED WITH THAT EVENT, STAYING IN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL? SO, UM, INITIALLY WHEN THE, UH, FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UM, IT WILL BE MANAGED THROUGH AIRBNB AND THEN FOLKS WILL COME IN AND THEN, UH, FOR THIS SEASON, UM, I DO NOT ANTICIPATE ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, WEDDINGS OR IF ANY BIG PARTIES COME IN HAVING THE PROPERTY AVAILABLE CUZ IT WILL BE BOOKED THROUGH AND AIRBNB.
BUT DOWN THE LANE, UM, WHEN THE SCHEDULING PERMITS, THERE WILL BE SOME, UM, I, THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME FAMILIES THAT WANT TO RENT THE PROPERTY AS A BRIDE AND BRIDE GROOM SUITE FOR A WEDDING.
SO IN THOSE CASES, UH, I MIGHT LET THEM TAKE THEIR PLACE, UM, IN ADVANCE AND IF NOT, THEN DURING THE WEEKDAYS IT'LL BE RENTED FOR OTHERS.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE DOWN THE LANE.
SO THE POTENTIAL COULD BE BOTH WAYS, RIGHT? SO I COULD GO TO AIRBNB, RENT THE HOME ON A SATURDAY AND I'M SURROUNDED BY A WEDDING
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OR AN EVENT.OR THE OTHER THING COULD HAPPEN IS I HAVE A WEDDING, IT STARTS POURING RAIN AND ALL OF MY GUESTS COME INTO THAT HOUSE.
WELL, THAT IS ADDRESSED THROUGH, UH, ONE OF FEW CONVERSATIONS WITH MY, UM, WITH THE STAFF SAYING THAT THE HOUSE WILL HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE AT ANY GIVEN POINT OF TIME.
IT WILL NOT BE MORE OCCUPANT THAN THAT.
UM, FOR THE, SO, SO IF A WEDDING PLAN OR IF AN EVEN PLAN, UM, GETS INTERRUPTED THROUGH RAIN, IT, IT WILL NOT BE, THE HOUSE WILL NOT BE USED FOR THAT.
SORRY, I WANNA SIT IN THE FRONT ROW.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BEFORE WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION OR TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? JUST THE, SO THE AUDIENCE KNOWS.
YEAH, SO WE SOMETIME STRICT RULES SAY WE NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND WE TRY TO GET TO, UM, OUR, OUR, OUR DECISION AS AS EXPEDIENTLY AS POSSIBLE.
SO, UM, WE ASK FOR DISCUSSION AND THEN POTENTIALLY A MOTION IN A SECOND, AND THEN WE'LL DISCUSS AND THEN VOTE.
BA BASED ON THE INFORMATION IN THE STAFF REPORT AND FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD DENY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 20 2215 FOR UNHOSTED SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE AT TWO 50 BROAD STREET ROAD ON THE GROUNDS THAT IT IS NOT KEEPING WITH PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, UH, MOST SPEC SPECIFICALLY LINE OF SITE ISSUES AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.
CAN CAN I INTERRUPT FOR A MINUTE? I'M SORRY.
I, THIS IS, WE WERE SORT OF IN A PROCEDURAL PLACE RIGHT NOW, SO IT'S, I HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE.
I HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT MOTION AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH DISCUSSION AFTER THE MOTION.
WE DON'T, WILL THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK AGAIN POTENTIALLY IF THE BOARD HAS QUESTIONS? YES.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU IF YOU WERE FINISHED BECAUSE THIS IS THE BOARD'S TIME NOW TO GO TO WORK, AND IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS OF YOU OR STAFF, WE WILL ABSOLUTELY ASK.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND DISCUSSION.
UM, I'LL START US OFF WITH A, UH, HOPEFULLY WHAT MIGHT BE AN EASY QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I WAS WALKING THE PROPERTY, I DID NOTICE THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BARRIERS.
NOW IT ISN'T FAULT, BUT THE, IN, IN THE, IN THE, THE STAFF REPORT IT, IT SAYS A TWO INCH CALIBER TREE PER 100 LINEAR FEET.
IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE 10 LINEAR FEET? MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL DEFER TO MR. COLEMAN.
THIS IS HIS PLANNING CASE BECAUSE I KNOW BARRIERS WAS AN ISSUE THAT CAME UP AS THE IDEA IS, UM, THE, THE BUFFER THAT'S DESIGNATED HAS TREES IN IT, UM, BUT IT'S NOT A DENSELY A TREE AREA.
SO THE IDEA WAS TO GIVE THE, UH, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK FOR THEIR LARGER GAPS AND JUST TO PUT SOME TREES IN THOSE GAPS.
SO A LOT OF THE EXISTING TREES ARE GONNA BE LARGER CALIPER TREES, SO IT'S JUST TO FILL THE GAPS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION THAT'S BEEN SECONDED, CORRECT? WE DO.
SEE NO OTHER, NO OTHER QUESTIONS.
MR. PETERSON SHOT, HIT THE BUTTON.
WELL, I DIDN'T KNOW, I COULDN'T TELL.
UM, I WANTED TO THANK ALL THE FOLKS THAT CAME OUT TONIGHT.
UM, THE INPUT IS VERY HELPFUL IN MAKING OUR DECISION.
UM, I WANNA CONGRATULATE THE APPLICANT FOR STEPPING FORWARD.
IT, IT TAKES A FAIR AMOUNT OF COURAGE TO START A BUSINESS TO STEP OUT AND MAKE SOME, TRY AND MAKE SOMETHING WORK.
YOU'VE GOTTA BELIEVE IN YOURSELF IN A BIG WAY THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE SOMETHING WORK, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE NEW AT THE BUSINESS AND YOU HAVEN'T TRIED IT BEFORE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT TO THE APPLICANT, UM, THAT ENTREPRENEURIAL SPIRIT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO KEEP ALIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO, TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR DREAMS AND YOUR VISION.
UM, YOU DID MENTION YOUR VISION.
WE HEARD THE VISION FROM OTHERS.
THIS BOARD DOESN'T REALLY CONSIDER VISIONS.
IS IT A HUNDRED PEOPLE OR NOT? IS IT THIS OR THAT? WHAT'S BEING SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR IS WHAT WE CONSIDER.
AND WE ALSO DON'T CONSIDER, AT LEAST I DON'T WHETHER OR NOT THE BUSINESS IS GONNA BE A SUCCESS, THAT'S NOT REALLY OUR BUSINESS.
THE BUSINESS PLAN IS NOT OUR PLAN.
UH, IT'S APPROPRIATE LAND USE, IT'S IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY WHETHER OR NOT IT'S GONNA SUCCEED OR NOT.
JESUS, IF WE ONLY TRIED TO APPROVE ONES
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THAT WE THOUGHT WERE GONNA SUCCEED, WE, A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WOULD, COULD POSSIBLY SUCCEED WOULDN'T BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY OR THE CHANCE.SO THAT PART OF IT IS NOT SOMETHING WE CONSIDER EITHER.
IT REALLY IS, IS AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE, IS IT THE RIGHT THING IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME? IS IT THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY? THOSE KINDS OF CONSIDERATIONS.
AND I'M, I'VE STRUGGLED WITH THIS ONE A LITTLE BIT AND THAT, YOU KNOW, TENTS AND PORTEA POTTIES IN MY MIND IS, YOU KNOW, MEMORIAL DAY, 4TH OF JULY, SOME, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY CELEBRATION OF SOME KIND.
UM, AND, AND PERMANENT STRUCTURES ARE MORE FOR PERMANENT BUSINESSES THAT SAY, OKAY, HERE'S FIVE YEARS, HOPE YOU MAKE IT, UH, CONGRATULATIONS.
SO, PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON PERMANENT BUSINESS, TEMPORARY STRUCTURES ON TEMPORARY BUSINESS.
AND I'M GETTING A LITTLE CONFUSED WITH TEMPORARY STRUCTURES ON PERMANENT BUSINESS.
AND I, I KNOW IT'S A GAP THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO FILL.
YOU THINK THERE'S A MARKET NEED OUT THERE THAT COULD BE MET AND YOU COULD MAKE A FAIR, FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY FILLING THAT, THAT VOID, UM, BY PROVIDING TEMPORARY FACILITIES FOR A MORE OR LESS A PERMANENT BUSINESS.
AND FOR ME, THAT, THAT'S A BIT OF A JUMP FOR ME, AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE CONSIDERED ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IN THE PAST.
UH, A A PERMANENT PER, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS APPROVAL FOR USING TEMPORARY FACILITIES EXCLUSIVELY.
AS STAFF PRESENTED, NONE OF THE OTHER EVENT VENUES HAVE NO PERMANENT STRUCTURE AT ALL.
THEY'LL HAVE A PERMANENT STRUCTURE, UM, ATTACHED TO THEM.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UM, SO THIS IS DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO CONSIDER.
AND SO THAT'S THE STRUGGLE FOR ME WAS TRYING TO RATIONALIZE THAT, UM, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE SHORT TERM VERSUS THE TEMPORARY VERSUS THE PERMANENT, UM, IN, AND, AND SO IT, IT, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, YOU KNOW, SEE THE WAY CLEAR TO, TO SAY THIS IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY USING A, A TEMPORARY FACILITY FOR A PERMANENT, UH, TYPE BUSINESS.
SO, ALL RIGHT, MR. CHAIR, THOSE ARE THE COMMENTS I WANTED TO MAKE.
MR. LUMPKINS? YEAH, I'LL JUST ECHO WHAT MR. PETERSON SAID.
UM, I GUESS JUST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, THIS, THIS, UH, A DENIAL DOES NOT REFLECT ANYTHING ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS PLAN.
IT DOESN'T REFLECT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR EXPERIENCE OR LACK OF EXPERIENCE THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
AND I'M, I'M WITH MR. PETERSON.
UM, I THANK EVERYBODY HERE FOR SPEAKING.
UH, UH, IT WAS A CIVIL DISCUSSION.
UM, AND, AND EVERY TIME WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS AND THERE'S DISAGREEMENT, THAT JUST AMAZES ME HOW RESPECTFUL PEOPLE ARE AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND WE APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT AS WELL.
I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS THAT YOU NEED TO START SOMEWHERE AND, UH, AND, AND SO ANY DECISION TONIGHT THAT GOES AGAINST YOUR APPLICATION DOES NOT REFLECT, UH, EXPERIENCE.
AND YOU'RE RE YOU, WE DID HEAR SOME COMMENTS.
THIS, THIS, THAT THIS DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE ORDINANCE, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.
YOU CAME FORWARD WITH, UH, REQUEST TO PUT CONDITIONS UNDER A C U P, YOU'RE, YOU'RE HERE BEFORE US PROPERLY.
IT'S JUST THAT, UH, I I I'M INCLINED TO AGREE WITH THE MOTION, UH, THAT, THAT THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PLACE AND NOT THE RIGHT STRUCTURE AND LAYOUT FOR THIS LOCATION.
BUT AGAIN, I, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP, UH, YOU KNOW, TO PURSUE YOUR BUSINESS.
AND, AND I THANK YOU FOR COMING TO GLAND AND, AND ASKING US APPRECIATE IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, SO AT THIS POINT WE ARE, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO VOTE.
UM, UM, WE CAN SPEAK, I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK AFTERWARDS, WHATEVER THE DECISION IS, BUT AT THIS POINT, IT, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE OUT OF DISCUSSION AND WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS.
THINK THIS APPLICATION HAS TWO CU SO IF, IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE ME TO DEFER ONE OF THE APPLICATIONS, THE, THE MOTION THAT WAS MADE SPOKE TO BOTH CUS MA'AM? YES, IT DID SPEAK TO BOTH CONCERNS ON THE SHOCKING, YEAH, THERE WERE CONCERNS ON THE SHORT TERM RENTAL.
AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THOSE, IT IS ONE C U P WITH TWO DIFFERENT USES ON THERE.
SO, AND H WAS ACTUALLY PROPERLY MOTIONED FOR DENIAL AND SECONDED.
AND WITHOUT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, I'LL CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
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YES.THANK YOU, UH, FOR EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING TONIGHT.
UM, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS STANDS ADJOURNED UNTIL, UH, TUESDAY, MARCH 14TH,
[XVII. Adjournment: The Board of Supervisors will adjourn as follows:]
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TRANSPORTATION WORK SESSION TUESDAY, APRIL 4TH FOR OUR REGULAR MEETING AND THE 18TH FOR OUR COUNTY BUDGET ADOPTION MEETING.WE ALSO HAVE OUR TOWN HALLS STARTING TOMORROW.