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[00:02:16]

STRING.

RIGHT.

THANKS FOLKS.

WE'LL START IN JUST A MINUTE.

WE'VE GOT SOME TECHNOLOGY BUGS WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT.

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OKAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY.

IT IS MY APOLOGIES TO STARTING A LITTLE LATE.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET

[I. 2:00 PM - Call to Order]

THE SOUND WORKING ON THE YOUTUBE FEED SO FOLKS CAN LOG IN AND, AND SEE ALL THE WORK WE'RE DOING.

UH, IT'S MY HONOR TO CALL TO ORDER THE 2:00 PM APRIL 4TH MEETING OF THE GUCH COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

WE'LL START, UH, AS WE ALWAYS DO, WITH A, UH, UH, INVOCATION FROM, UH, MIKE HENNIGAN, FROM PASTOR MIKE HENIGAN FROM VICTORY CHRISTIAN CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, UH, BY VICE CHAIR OF OTTERS.

PLEASE STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE.

LET'S PRAY.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL SPRING DAY

[II. Invocation]

AND, UH, THE PRIVILEGE TO LIVE AND SERVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WE PRAY YOUR BLESSING OVER ALL THE PROCEEDINGS, LORD GOD, AND THAT SHOULD WATCH OVER THEM.

WE THANK YOU, LORD FOR ALL OUR CIVIL SERVANTS AND OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR CHILDREN.

WE JUST, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS AND PRAY THAT YOU WOULD WATCH OVER THEM.

WE HONOR YOU.

IT'S IN YOUR NAME, WE PRAY, JESUS AMEN.

PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND ITS

[III. Pledge of Allegiance]

REPUBLIC FOR WHICH ITS HANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH THE LIBERTY, JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, WE GOT A COUPLE GREAT THANKS TO, UH, COUPLE PROCLAMATIONS TO START OUR OUR BUSINESS MEETING.

UH, THE FIRST ONE IS A PRESENTATION OF A PROCLAMATION, RECOGNIZING APRIL 17TH TO 23RD OF AS HUNGER AWARENESS WEEK.

SOME FOLKS COME DOWN.

[IV. Presentation of Proclamation Recognizing April 17-23, 2023 as Hunger Awareness]

OKAY.

OKAY.

WHEREAS FOOD IS A BASIC HUMAN NEED, AND IN FOOD INSECURE HOUSEHOLDS, THE NEED FOR FOOD COMPETES WITH THE NEED FOR OTHER BASIC HUMAN NECESSITIES, SUCH AS MEDICATION, COVID 19, HEALTH IMPACT HOUSING, UTILITIES, AND TRANSPORTATION.

AND WHEREAS THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE DEFINES FOOD INSECURITY AS LIMITED OR UNCERTAIN AVAILABILITY OF NUTRITIONALLY ADEQUATE AND SAFE FOODS, OR LIMITED OR UNCERTAIN ABILITY TO ACQUIRE ACCEPTABLE FOODS IN SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE WAYS.

AND WHEREAS VER BLOG ET ALL 2012 DEFINES A FOOD DESERT AS AN AREA WHERE POPULATIONS LIVE MORE THAN 10 MILES FROM A SUPERMARKET OR LARGE GROCERY STORE IF IN A RURAL AREA.

AND WHEREAS WESTERN GLAND HAS BEEN DECLARED A FOOD DESERT BY THE VIRGINIA FOOD DESERT TASK FORCE.

AND WHEREAS AN ESTIMATED 2000 OF GUC AND RESIDENTS EXPERIENCE FOOD INSECURITY IN 2022, AND WHEREAS WITH ECONOMIC INSTABILITY IS EXPECTED TO FLUCTUATE AS THE NATION STATE AND COUNTY CONTINUED TO BE IMPACTED BY COVID 19.

AND WHEREAS GUC ONE'S LOW-INCOME CITIZENS DEPEND ON PUBLIC AND PRIVATE FOOD RESOURCES TO MEET THEIR NUTRITIONAL NEEDS.

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED AND RECOGNITION AND SUPPORT OF THE IMPORTANT WORK BEING DONE BY GLAND COUNTY FOOD PANTRIES.

THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF APRIL 17 TO 23 AS HUNGER AWARENESS DAYS IN GUC AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO ACTIVELY DONATE FOOD OR OTHER RESOURCES TO SUPPORT THE NUMEROUS OPEN FOOD PANTRIES THROUGHOUT GLAND, AND TO WORK TOWARDS THE VISION OF FEUD SECURITY FOR ALL GLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS.

BOARD MOTION, UH, MR. CHAIR, UH, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING APRIL 17TH TO 23RD AS HUNGER AWARENESS WEEK SECOND.

THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON.

I HAVE, UH, PROPER MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR WE SAYING AYE.

AYE.

[00:10:07]

LIKE TO SAY SO I NEVER MISS A CHANCE TO SAY SOMETHING.

THANKS FOR HAVING US.

AND, AND FOR THE PROCLAMATION, I WANTED TO INTRODUCE DOUG CHILDS, WHO IS OUR FOOD PANTRY MANAGER, AND I WANTED HIM JUST TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT.

HI.

I, UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

UH, I JUST LEARNED THIS MORNING THAT BECAUSE OF THE REDUCTION IN THE COVID SNAP BENEFITS, UH, SNAP BENEFITS ARE NOW FOR DOWN 43% IN THE COUNTY, WHICH IS A HUGE IMPACT.

UM, ACTUALLY, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'VE RECEIVED THIS PROCLAMATION.

I STARTED EXACTLY A YEAR AGO, UM, LAST YEAR.

ABOUT THIS TIME WE WERE SEEING ROUGHLY 200 FAMILIES PER WEEK.

WE ARE NOW SEEING 260, AND THAT NUMBER IS GROWING AS MORE AND MORE CLIENTS REGISTER WITH US.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT.

THANK THE COMMUNITY FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND WE HAVE A FOOD, COMMUNITY FOOD DRIVE, THE END OF, UM, APRIL.

SO WATCH OUT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, MICROPHONE.

DO YOU WANT? SO THERE'S A, UH, MS. GRAHAM IS, LET US KNOW THERE'S A FOOD, UH, COMMUNITY FOOD DRIVE WHEN, UM, IT'S APRIL 23RD, 22ND, APRIL 23RD.

APRIL 22ND AT THE FOOD PANTRY.

BUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE STARTING OUT.

OKAY.

SO THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE STARTING NOW.

SO HOPEFULLY GET SOME GOOD, HEALTHY COMPETITION AND A LOT OF GREAT FOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THE NEXT COM, THE NEXT PROCLAMATION WE HAVE IS A PRO PROCLAMATION FOR CRIME VICTIMS RIGHT WEEK, WHICH IS APRIL 23RD, THE 29TH.

UH, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S TITLED SURVIVOR VOICES ELEVATE, ENGAGE, CHANGE,

[V. Presentation of Proclamation Recognizing April 23-29, 2023 as Crime Victims’]

WHEREAS THE TERM VICTIM IS MORE THAN JUST A LABEL AND HAS A LEGAL STANDING AND PROTECTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.

WHEREAS CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS ACT PASSED HERE IN VIRGINIA AND AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL GUARANTEE VICTIMS THE RIGHT TO MEANINGFULLY PARTICIPATE AND USE THEIR VOICE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROCESS.

WHEREAS VICTIMS SERVICE PROVIDERS, ADVOCATES, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, ATTORNEYS, AND OTHER ALLY PROFESSIONALS CAN HELP SURVIVORS FIND THEIR JUSTICE BY ENFORCING THESE RIGHTS.

WHEREAS THE RIGHT TO PROVIDE AN IMPACT STATEMENT ENSURES THAT VICTIM'S VOICES ARE CONSIDERED IN COURT DURING THE SENTENCING AND WHEN APPLICABLE RESTITUTION PROCESSES, WHEREAS INCLUDING AN ELEVATING, THE VOICES OF SURVIVORS MAKE CERTAIN THEY ARE HEARD AND SEEN AND CREATES A PATH TO FORGING AND SUSTAINING COMMUNITY TRUST.

WHEREAS ENGAGING SURVIVORS CREATES RESPONSES AND SERVICES THAT ARE CREDIBLE, MEANINGFUL, AND CENTERED ON INDIVIDUAL NEEDS.

WHEREAS SURVIVORS LIVED EXPERIENCE CAN SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR IMPLEMENTING INNOVATIVE PROGRAMS, SHIFTING EXISTING PROGRAMS IN NEW DIRECTIONS, AND CHANGING POLICIES OR PRACTICES THAT PREVENT SURVIVORS FROM ACCESSING SERVICES OR PURSUING JUSTICE.

WHEREAS NATIONAL CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS WEEK PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO RECONNECT, RECOMMIT, LISTENING TO CRIME SURVIVORS IN EVERY SPACE WHERE DECISIONS ARE MADE THAT COULD IMPACT THEM.

AND WHEREAS THE GLA VICTIM WITNESS PROGRAM IS HEREBY DEDICATED TO AMPLIFYING THE VOICES OF SURVIVORS AND CREATING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE SURVIVORS HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY WILL BE HEARD, BELIEVED, AND SUPPORTED.

NOW, THEREFORE, THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF APRIL 23 TO 29 AS CRIME VICTIM'S RIGHTS WEEK REAFFIRMING THIS COUNTY'S COMMITMENT TO CREATING A VICTIM'S SERVICE AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE RESPONSE THAT ASSESS ALL VICTIMS OF CRIME DURING CRIME VICTIMS RIGHTS SUITE AND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, AND EXPRESSING OUR SINCERE GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION FOR THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS, VICTIMS, SERVICE PROVIDERS, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO IMPROVING OUR RESPONSE TO ALL VICTIMS OF CRIMES SO THAT THEY MAY FIND RELEVANT ASSISTANCE, SUPPORT, JUSTICE AND PEACE.

THANK MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT GIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT AND APPROVE THE RESOLUTION OR PROCLAMATION AS READ LUKIN.

SECOND.

THANK.

GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION?

[00:15:01]

I DO.

THANK YOU, SIR.

TARA, COULD YOU AND ANNE COME UP AND JOIN ME, ASHLEY AS WELL? GOOD AFTERNOON.

MIKE CARDELL, COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY FOR GSOM COUNTY.

AND I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW FORTUNATE WE ARE AS A COUNTY TO HAVE SUCH TRUE PROFESSIONALS AS ANNE AND TARA, TO STAND UP FOR OUR VICTIMS WHO OFTEN CANNOT STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES.

THEY HAVE THE COURAGE TO TAKE THE CASES TO COURT.

THEY HAVE THE COURAGE TO STAND BEHIND THE VICTIMS WHEN IN COURT, AND THEY HAVE THE COMPASSION TO DO WHAT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE THIS PROGRAM WORK.

SO, I, I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH.

AND ASHLEY IS OUR JUVENILE SPECIALIST IN THE JUVENILE COURT, AND THEY WORK, UH, HAND IN GLOVE WITH EACH OTHER AND IT JUST WORKS SO WELL.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT.

THANK YOU, COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

IF YOU WANT, I HAVE FILM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

UM, NOW'S THE TIME FOR MY COMMENTS.

I'M GONNA SAY SOMETHING NOW, AND I MAY RESERVE THE RIGHT TO SAY SOMETHING IN A FEW MINUTES.

UM, WE HEARD ABOUT JUST FROM THE LAST PROCLAMATION STANDING UP FOR, FOR FOLKS AND FOR VICTIMS. AND TODAY I HAD THE HONOR AT ONE O'CLOCK.

OH, HERE YOU COME.

COME ON IN.

YOU'RE JUST WAITING.

CAN SOMEBODY, SO TODAY AT ONE O'CLOCK, I HAD THE HONOR.

YOU JUST MADE IT IN TIME.

UH, HAD THE HONOR TO, UM, MEET WITH THE NEWEST,

[VI. Chair's Comments]

UH, CLASS OF CASA APPOINTEES.

FOR THOSE OF THE YOU THAT ARE NOT, MAY NOT BE AWARE, CASA STANDS FOR COURT APPOINTED SPECIAL ADVOCATE.

SO WHEN THE JUVENILE COURT SYSTEM, WHEN THERE ARE CASES OF NEGLECT AND ABUSE, THESE BRAVE, UH, VOLUNTEERS, UH, GO IN AND ACT AS THE EYES AND THE EARS FOR THE JUDGE.

THEY CONDUCT INVESTIGATIONS AND PROVIDE REPORTS TO THE JUDGE FOR THE BEST ENTRANCE OF THE CH THE CHILDREN, THE CHILDREN'S, ARE THEIR CLIENTS.

SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE AND RECOGNIZE THESE AMAZING CITIZENS WHO ARE WILLING TO STEP UP AND, UH, SERVE IN THIS CAPACITY TO ADVOCATE FOR THOSE WITH THE LEAST VOICE AND TO GIVE THEM A VOICE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

MR. KIRKER, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, JUST TWO ITEMS FOR YOU.

UH, ONE, THIS PAST SATURDAY, WE HAD OUR

[VII. County Administrator's Comments]

FIRST AGFA.

UH, DESPITE SOME PRETTY BAD WEATHER, OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE CAME OUT FOR IT, UH, WAS A NEAT DAY AND A NEAT EVENT.

UH, WE WILL BE HAVING IN THE FALL, UM, AUGUST 12TH, OUR LARGE ANIMAL SHOW.

SO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT.

AND ALSO THIS WEEK IS NATIONAL TELECOMMUNICATORS WEEK.

UH, THEY ARE THE TIP OF THE SPEAR.

OUR FIRST, FIRST RESPONDERS, WHEN YOU PICK UP THAT PHONE TO CALL AN EMERGENCY, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ANSWER.

SO, UH, SHOUT OUT AND KUDOS TO THEM.

UH, THAT'S MY REPORT, MR. CHAIR.

OKAY.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A LITTER CLEANUP COMING UP, UH, THIS MONTH TOO.

I THINK IT'S APRIL 22ND, SIR.

YES, SIR.

APRIL 22ND.

UM, THE, UH, CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL AND, UH, THIS BUILDING WILL ALSO BE THE DROP OFF AND PICK UP LOCATIONS WHERE YOU CAN PICK UP YOUR SUPPLIES AND DROP OFF AS WELL.

SO, ENCOURAGES PEOPLE OUT DOING THEIR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD FOOD DRIVES.

THEY PICK UP SOME LITTER WHILE THEY'RE DOING IT.

.

EXCELLENT.

WE HOPE.

GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE SIGN UP FOR THAT CAUSE WE SURE NEEDS A OKAY, UH, BOARD.

ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS? ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES IN THE ORDER

[VIII. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the]

OF PRESENTATION? SEEING NONE MOVE ON.

UH, NOW IS, UH, WE MOVE INTO OUR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.

THIS

[IX. Citizen Comment]

IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO APPROACH THE BOARD ABOUT TOPICS, UH, JERMAINE GLAND COUNTY, UH, THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

UH, THEN WE'D ASK YOU TO COME TO THE PODIUM, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND, UH, PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

THANKS.

GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD.

I COME TO YOU TODAY AS A CITIZEN.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO COME FORWARD AND DO A, UH, SAY A WORD OF APPRECIATION AND THANK YOU TO OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES COMPANY, FIVE VERY UNEXPECTEDLY.

I NEEDED THEIR SERVICES AROUND MARCH THE 16TH.

THE STAFF THERE WERE EXEMPLARY.

UM, THEY TOOK

[00:20:01]

ME TO THE HOSPITAL.

UM, I RECEIVED THE SERVICES THAT WERE NECESSARY AT THAT TIME, STILL, NOT BACK A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT FIRST TIME I'VE EVER HAD TO USE EMERGENCY SERVICES IN MY ENTIRE LIFE.

WE HAVE THE BEST OF THE BEST, AND I JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY SAY THANK YOU TO COMPANY FIVE AND THE ENTIRE TEAM OF EMERGENCY EMERGENCY SERVICES PERSONNEL WITH THIS COUNTY.

MY NAME IS KIMBERLY JEFFERSON.

I'M A GLAND COUNTY RESIDENT.

.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. JEFFERSON.

HOW Y'ALL DOING TODAY? MY NAME'S MIKE.

I LIVE OVER BY WEST CREEK.

I KNOW MOST OF YOU, I WANNA SAY YOU'RE ALL DOING A FINE JOB ON ALMOST EVERY ISSUE, BUT THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE VFW, THE AMERICAN LEGION AM VETS.

YOU FOLKS SHOULD BE DOING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING.

YOU SHOULD GO AND YOU SHOULD TAX THESE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE AMERICAN LEGION AM VETS AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.

IF THEY'RE WORTH A THOUSAND, TAX 'EM A MILLION.

AND THEN YOU JUST KICK IT BACK TO 'EM.

WHEN YOU KICK THAT MONEY STRAIGHT BACK TO 'EM, YOU TELL 'EM, OH, THE ONLY LITTLE HOOK AND STRING IS YOU GUYS NEED TO RUN A VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVER OF YOUR ORGANIZATION IF YOU WANT YOUR MONEY BACK.

AND YOU MAY ALL SAY, WHY WOULD YOU WANNA DO THAT? WELL, IT TURNS OUT THAT PLACES LIKE THE AMERICAN LEGION OKAY, ARE HEAVILY MALE OR HEAVILY OLDER PEOPLE.

THEY'RE OFTEN VETERANS.

THEY OFTEN VOTE REPUBLICAN.

YOU MAY SAY, WELL, IS IT REALLY THE GOVERNMENT'S JOB TO BE RUNNING VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVES FOR SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS? WELL, GUESS WHAT? THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S DOING IT.

THEY'RE DOING IT RIGHT UP THE ROAD HERE.

YOU GO TO THE LOCAL COLLEGE, AND IF THE COLLEGE WANTS THAT GOVERNMENT MONEY BACK FOR FROM THE GOVERNMENT, THEY HAVE TO RUN A VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVE.

IT'S AN OUTRAGE.

WE DON'T LIVE IN A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY.

WE LIVE IN A BANANA REPUBLIC.

IT IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S JOB TO GO OUT AND PICK SPECIFIC DEMOGRAPHIC GROUPS AND HAVE VOTER REGISTRATION DRIVES FOR 'EM, REQUIRED BY PUB, BY PRIVATE PARTIES.

BUT THAT IS THE COUNTRY WE LIVE IN.

SO IF THE DEMOCRATS IN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ARE DOING IT, YOU SHOULD BE DOING IT TOO.

SO AGAIN, I WANNA WISH YOU ALL A GREAT DAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. SGA.

GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD.

JONATHAN LYLE, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE MONA SOIL WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN A GLAND FARM BUREAU DIRECTOR.

MY COMMENTS ARE MY OWN AND NOT THOSE OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

UH, I WANT TO JUST FIRST OF ALL SAY THANK YOU.

I UNDERSTAND WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF BUDGET SEASON HERE AT THE COUNTY, AND WE'RE ALSO IN THE MIDST OF OUR BUDGET AT MONICAN.

UH, WE APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION YOU ARE GIVING US, AND IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS ON OUR REQUEST, UH, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

WE'D BE HAPPY TO AMPLIFY ON THAT.

UH, I WANNA MAKE A SPECIAL THANK YOU TO THE CHAIRMAN, MR. SPOON, NOWER.

HE REPRESENTED YOUR BOARD, UH, AND THE COUNTY EXCEPTIONALLY WELL.

UH, THE AREA THREE DISTRICT OF, UH, CONSERVATION DISTRICTS MET AT, UH, THE AGRICULTURAL CENTER, UH, OUT AT CENTRAL AND DOGTOWN.

AND, UH, WE WERE WARMLY GREETED AND ENCOURAGED TO TURN OFF OUR GPS AND WANDER THROUGH THE COUNTY.

UM, AND I THINK SOME OF THE FOLKS DID.

UM, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

WE HAD 83 VISITORS.

UH, THE, UH, HEAD OF THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL AND CONSUMER SERVICES WAS THERE, WHICH IS THE FIRST TIME WE'D EVER HAD SOMEBODY OF THAT LEVEL OF, OF, UH, STATE BUREAUCRACY, UH, ATTEND AN AREA MEETING.

UH, AND, UH, WE GOT REALLY POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THE FACILITY.

AND THIS BOARD AND THE BOARD RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RENOVATION OF THAT FACILITY, UH, ARE TO BE COMPLIMENTED AND COMMENDED BECAUSE IT REALLY DOES REPRESENT OUR COUNTY WELL.

UH, ALSO, THE COUNTY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE US WITH A COUPLE OF TCHO KEYS THAT PEOPLE HAVE, UH, TO REMIND THEM OF THEIR VISIT TO GLAND.

I WANT TO ITERATE WHAT THE, UH, UH, ADMINISTRATOR, COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SAID.

UH, THE INITIAL AG UH, EXPO, UH, WAS A GREAT FIRST START.

AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNTY TO CONSIDER, UH, NOT JUST THE ONE COMING UP WITH LARGE ANIMALS, WHICH ARE SIGHT UNTO THEMSELVES, BUT, BUT TO CONTINUE THAT, IT TAKES A WHILE SOMETIMES FOR A, A PROGRAM LIKE THAT TO GET, UH, STARTED OR, OR TO CONTINUE AND, AND, UH, SUCCEED.

I WANNA MAKE A SPECIAL, APPRECIATIVE COMMENT TO OUR COUNTY TREASURER, PAM DUNCAN.

UH, IN THE PROCESS OF OUR DOING OUR BUDGET AT MONKIN, UH, WE DISCOVERED THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL.

UH, WE HAVE BEEN KEEPING OUR RESERVE FUNDS IN ONE HALF OF ONE HALF OF 1% CDS.

AND, UH, WE'VE DISCOVERED THAT WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT INVESTMENT POOL, WE MIGHT ACTUALLY GET FOUR, FOUR AND A HALF PERCENT.

AND SO, UH, OUR COUNTY TREASURER

[00:25:01]

HAS PROVIDED US THAT KIND OF TUTELAGE AND, AND, UH, DIRECTION.

SO, UH, WE VERY, VERY, VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT MR. CASH HAS CONTINUED TO BE APPRECIATED FOR THE WORK HE'S DOING ON THE SOLAR COLLECTION FACILITY POLICY AND ORDINANCE.

I BELIEVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS GONNA SEE THAT THIS THURSDAY.

HE'S BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING TO THE AG COMMUNITY IN SOLICITING INPUT, NOT ALL OF WHICH HAS MADE IT INTO THE DRAFT, BUT HE HAS SOLICITED IT NONETHELESS.

AND THEN FINALLY, UH, UH, SEPTEMBER 13TH, UH, EXTENSION IS GONNA HAVE THEIR WELL WATER TESTING PROGRAM, AND I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THOSE.

AND 85% OF THE COUNTY IS ON A WELL, UH, TO GET YOU WATER TESTED AT $65.

UH, 30% OF THE PEOPLE WHO PARTICIPATE FIND THE AREA SOME PRESENCE OF BACTERIAL, UH, PRESENCE IN THEIR WATER.

UH, USUALLY THE TREATMENT IS, IS EASY, BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU CAN'T TREAT IT, UH, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO THE EXTENSION OFFICE AND MORE WILL BE DISCUSSED ON THAT.

IN FACT, PROBABLY EVERY MONTH I'LL REMIND PEOPLE THAT IT'S COMING UP.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MR. LAO.

ANY OTHERS FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? OKAY.

I'M CLOSING THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD, UH, BOARD IN YOUR PACKET.

WE HAD, UH, TWO SETS OF MINUTES, UH, FOR THE, UH, ONE FOR FEBRUARY 21ST

[X. Approval of Action Minutes]

BUDGET SESSION, AND THEN, THEN FOR MARCH 7TH, DOES THIS MEETING, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW YOU THEM.

MR. MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF OUR FEBRUARY 21ST AND, UM, MARCH 7TH MEETING.

THANK YOU, MR. KINS.

SECONDING.

THANK YOU, MR. VADERS.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR APPROVING THE A, THE THOSE MINUTES.

PLEASE STATE THIS BY, BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

OKAY.

MOVING INTO OUR REPORTS.

OUR FIRST REPORT IS FROM OUR PARTNERS AT VDOT,

[XI. Reports]

MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER, UH, MARSHALL WYNWOOD VDOT.

[1. 5685: VDOT - March 2023]

UH, THIS PAST, UH, MONTH, WE RECEIVED, UH, 202, UH, WORK ORDERS COMPLETED.

196 HAD SEVEN CALLOUTS DOING REGULAR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES, POTHOLE, BATCHING, SHOULDER REPAIR, TREE REMOVAL, UH, DITCHING PIPE CLEANING, PIPE REPLACEMENT, UH, SIGN MAINTENANCE AND TRASH PICKUP.

UH, PROBABLY NOTICED THE, UH, BIG TREE OVER HERE BY THE SOFTBALL FIELD THAT WAS TAKEN DOWN YESTERDAY.

UH, STUMP GRINDINGS SCHEDULE FOR THURSDAY, SO THAT'LL BE COMPLETED.

UH, MY CREW WENT OUT ON DICKINSON ROAD AND EXTENDED THE PIPE IN THAT SHARP CURVE YESTERDAY, CLOSED THE ROAD FOR A DAY, WAS OPEN YESTERDAY AFTERNOON.

SO, UM, FOR THE ROUNDABOUT MESSAGE, BOARDS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED, SET UP SIGNS ARE UP AND THEY'RE BAGGED RIGHT NOW.

AND, UH, SOON AS THEY IMPLEMENT THE DETOUR, THOSE WILL BE UNBAGGED AND, UH, THE DETOUR WILL BE SET.

THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 17TH ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE TO REPORT IS ROUTE SIX PAVING.

THAT'S KIND OF GONE A LONG WAYS.

THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH SOME SHOULDER BREAKUP.

CONTRACTOR'S SUPPOSED TO COME OUT NEXT WEEKEND AND DO A TRENCH WIDE, A TRENCH A A DIG OUT OF THE TRENCHES AND, AND STABILIZE THAT AREA, AND THEN CONTINUE TO PUT THE SURFACE MIX ON AFTER THAT.

AND THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT SECTION OF ROAD.

OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

THANK YOU, MR. WYNN.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. W, MS. LAST CLAP.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU.

UH, THANK YOU, MR. WYNN.

SO THE ROUNDABOUT? YES, THE ROUNDABOUT, RIGHT? THE ONLY ONE THAT WE CARE ABOUT.

UM, SO APRIL 17TH IS WHEN WE THINK RIGHT NOW.

SURE.

THEY'LL BEGIN THE DETOURS.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

AND TELL US AGAIN ABOUT HOW LONG WE THINK THEY'RE GONNA BE DETOURING AND HOW'S THAT GONNA WORK? WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

I CAN'T TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW LONG.

SO, SO, SO ALL TRAFFIC ON 5 22 AND FAIRGROUND WON'T BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THAT INTER INTERSECTION, IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

OKAY.

SO YOU DETOUR PROBABLY AROUND, THERE'S STILL BE SOME FLAGGING OPERATIONS IN THE INTERIM, BUT WHEN THEY START PAVING RIGHT, IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY, UH, SEVEN LAYERS OF PAVEMENT THAT GO DOWN TO BUILD EVERYTHING UP.

RIGHT.

AND ONCE YOU PUT ONE LAYER DOWN, YOU, YOU GOTTA WAIT FOR IT TO COOL BEFORE YOU CAN DO THE OTHER LAYER, THE NEXT LAYER.

RIGHT.

I THINK IT'LL BE, ALL THAT WORKS WILL BE DONE AT NIGHT ANYWAY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ON THE, UH, ROUNDABOUT DETOUR, THE ROUTE 5 22 WILL REMAIN OPEN AT ALL TIMES TO THE PUBLIC WOR WORKING WITH THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT STAFF.

SO FAIRGROUNDS ROAD IS THE ONLY PART OF THAT INTERSECTION THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE CLOSED.

SO 5 22 WILL STAY OPEN UNDER FLAGGING.

[00:30:01]

OKAY.

SO, UH, FROM, IF YOU'RE ON DICKINSON AND YOU CAN TURN ON, UH, FAIRGROUND ROAD, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE FOOD LINE, BUT NO FURTHER.

RIGHT? RIGHT.

YES.

OKAY.

GOTCHA.

THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE, MS. LASETTE? NO, I'M DONE.

THANK YOU.

UM, AT OUR TOWN HALL AND A LOT OF CALLS, THE, THE CITIZENS ARE CURIOUS AS FAR AS THE, THE PAVING OF ROCK CASTLE.

UM, HAD A GUY NEARLY IN AN ACCIDENT CALL ME, UH, BACK OF HIS JEEP, HIT THE THING, AND I'M JUST GETTING A LOT OF CALLS, SO I KNOW IT'S ON THE SCHEDULE.

I LOOKED ONLINE.

UM, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S SOME SORT OF CODE THERE THAT SAYS IT INDICATES SOME SORT OF SCHEDULE THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

DO WE KNOW ACTUALLY WHEN THEY'RE GONNA START PAVING THAT? I, I'D HAVE TO GET WHAT THEY HAVE UNTIL THE 1ST OF NOVEMBER TO GET ALL THE SCHEDULE WORK DONE.

SO I'D HAVE TO GET A SPECIFIC DATE.

IF I GET A TWO WEEK LOOK AHEAD, I'LL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WHEN.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT, THAT PROCESS HAS NOT STARTED YET.

OKAY.

I MEAN, THE ONLY THING THEY'VE REALLY DONE OUT THERE IS PROBABLY A ERADICATION OF PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND SOME PATCHING, POSSIBLY.

I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE AND LOOKED AT MUCH YET.

I GOT A CALL ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NARROW ROAD, PRETTY CURBED, AND THERE'S NO LINES, IT'S NOT LINED ANYMORE.

AND, UM, THEY SHOULD, IT'S JUST SO UNLEVEL THAT IT'S JUST NOT REALLY SAFE.

OKAY.

SO WE COULD DO ANYTHING TO BUMP THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR MS. RYAN? MR. PETERSON? UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW V DOT'S BUDGET IS SHAKING OUT, BUT I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THE SNOW PLOW MONEY THAT WASN'T SPENT? WILL THERE BE ANY OF THAT BE AVAILABLE FOR SOME OF OUR PROJECTS? NOT IN MY BUDGET.

WHY IS EVERYBODY LAUGHING? NOT IN MY BUDGET, I CAN TELL YOU.

OKAY.

NOT YOUR BUDGET.

NOT IN MY BUDGET.

YEAH.

THANK YOU MR. WYNN.

OKAY.

HAVE A GOOD ONE.

APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE WE HAVE HR HERE FOR ANY COUNTY STAFF.

UH, WE DO.

OUR NEXT REPORT IS OUR FIRE AND RESCUE REPORT.

UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE DEPUTY CHIEF

[2. New County Staff: None]

WATKINS.

MAN, I HEARD

[3. 5675: Fire Rescue Report - January/February]

YOU GUYS A MULTIMEDIA PRESENTATION TRYING TO ONE UP THE CHIEF.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MIKE WATKINS, DEPUTY CHIEF OF FIRE RESCUE REPORTING ON BEHALF OF EDDIE FERGUSON, WHO IS ON VACATION IN KEY WEST.

UH, FIRST , SORRY.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, UH, KIMBERLY, WE'RE GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK AND HEALTHY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENTS.

AND WITH HER PERMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE THAT WITH THE CREW, THAT THAT TRANSPORTED YOU AT SOME POINT.

I THINK, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS TO ME AS A, AS A MANAGER AND A CHIEF, THAT WHEN I GET GOOD FEEDBACK, I CAN GET IT TO MY CREWS, AND THAT THAT HELPS THEM CONTINUE TO DO A GREAT JOB.

SO THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR THAT KIND, WOR THOSE KIND WORDS, AND WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE, YOU'RE HELP.

YOU'RE FEELING A LITTLE BETTER.

UM, ON BEHALF OF CHIEF FERGUSON, HE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND TO HIS THANK YOU TO ALL, UH, DEPARTMENTS OF THE COUNTY, BUT ESPECIALLY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

UH, FOR THE MASTER PLAN, WE SPENT TWO DAYS LAST WEEK, UH, MEETING WITH, UH, STAKEHOLDERS THROUGHOUT, UM, THE COUNTY, UM, ELECTED OFFICIALS AS WELL AS, UH, DEPARTMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

UM, THE MASTER PLAN IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THE ORGANIZATION.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO, UH, ENLIGHTEN US AS TO SOME OF THE PRIORITIES AND THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO MOVING FORWARD AS AN ORGANIZATION TO, UH, TO BUILD OURSELVES AS INTO, INTO A HIGH CLASS OPERATION.

UM, WE'RE ALWAYS ALREADY DOING GOOD STUFF.

THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT'LL HELP US FOCUS AND, AND GET PLACES WHERE WE NEED TO BE.

UM, WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE CONDUCTING A COMMUNITY SURVEY.

UH, THERE ARE COMMUNITY SURVEYS THAT'S POSTED ONLINE ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGES.

IN ADDITION, THE INFORMATION IS AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM.

UM, BOTH FOR IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO, DOES NOT HAVE INTERNET ACCESS, AND WOULD LIKE TO, UM, UH, TAKE THE SURVEY MANUALLY.

WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

IF THEY WANTED TO GIVE THAT CONDUCTED TODAY, GIVE IT TO ME.

UM, THERE'S ALSO A QR CODE THEY CAN SCAN TO DO THAT.

SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO GET THIS INFORMATION.

WE ARE CONDUCTING SURVEYS OF THE COMMUNITY.

WE'RE ALSO CONDUCTING SURVEYS OF OUR PERSONNEL AND OUR MEMBERSHIP TO GET TO MAKE, UH, THINGS.

UH, WE HELD TWO, UH, TOWN HALLS LAST WEEK WITH, UH, MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT, BOTH TO GET FEEDBACK AND TO, TO GET HONEST, HONEST INSIGHT AS TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO.

UH, SO AGAIN, THANK YOU AND, AND ALL OF THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PARTICIPATION IN THE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THAT SAID, MOVING ON, THE, THE REPORT IS IN YOUR FILE AS, UH, CHIEF FERGUSON USUALLY, UH, PRESENTS.

I THINK SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS THAT WE WOULD WANNA BRING UP.

UH, WE ARE STILL UNDER THE STATEWIDE BURN BAN, UH, NO BURNING.

AND PRIOR TO FOUR O'CLOCK, UH, IN THE EVENING, UH, THROUGH APRIL 30TH, UM, THE, THE KEY CHALLENGES WE'RE STARTING TO SEE, AND, AND TOMORROW WILL BE A PRIME EXAMPLE.

YOU HAVE A VERY HIGH HEAT AND HIGH AND DRY DAY.

UM, THAT THOSE ARE CONDITIONS THAT FIRE CAN SPREAD VERY EASILY.

SO WE WANT TO CAUTION ANYONE, UH, WITH BURNING.

AND JUST BECAUSE IT SAYS YOU CAN BURN AFTER FOUR DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NECESSARILY A GOOD IDEA BASED ON THE WIND OR OTHER STUFF.

IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BURN ORDINANCE, PLEASE HAVE SOMEONE HAVE REACH OUT TO, UH, FIRE RESCUE ADMINISTRATION.

WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL INCREASED BRUSH FIRES THIS ALREADY THIS SEASON WITH SOME SIGNIFICANT DAMAGE.

WE DAMAGED ONE BRUSH UNIT AS WELL AS OF A LOST A FEW, UH, MINOR SHEDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, THE DEPARTMENT WAS AWARDED A SAFER GRANT, UH, STAFFING FOR ADEQUATE FIRE AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE FOR VOLUNTEER RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION.

UH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE DETAILS OF THAT, BUT

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THE FOCUS OF THIS GRANT IS BRINGING ON 12 NEW FIREFIGHTERS EVERY YEAR, VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS EVERY YEAR, UH, TO SUPPORT THE DEPARTMENT.

AND IT WILL BE FOR APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS.

WE'VE BROUGHT ON A NEW VOLUNTEER AND CAREER MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE PAST FEW MONTHS.

WE CONDUCTED A HIRING END PROCESS.

UH, WE ARE ALSO COMPLETING OUR FIRE TRAINING ACADEMY.

UH, AND THAT IS SET TO GRADUATE ON THURSDAY, APRIL 13TH AT 1830 HOURS AT CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL, UH, EL CULTURAL AND EDUCATION CENTER ON DOGTOWN ROAD.

WE'RE REAL PROUD OF THIS GROUP.

IT'S A COMBINATION CAREER AND VOLUNTEER GROUP.

UM, THEY'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO GET THROUGH ALL THE FACETS OF, UH, OF THAT, UH, THAT ACADEMY.

UH, THEY STARTED, UH, BACK IN AUGUST.

UM, WE'RE STILL IMPROVING THE FIRE RESCUE TRAINING CENTER.

UH, WE'VE COMPLETED SITE DRAINAGE, SO WE'RE HOPING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE LESS, UH, DRAINAGE ISSUES IN LIGHT.

IT'S A FU A FUTURE RAINFALL.

UH, THE MODULAR CLASSROOM SHOULD BE DELIVERED HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT MONTH OR SO.

AND WE ARE WORKING FORWARD WITH THE, UH, THE, UH, GRANT, UH, SUPPORTED, UH, BURN STRUCTURE.

IN ADDITION, WE'VE PURCHASED TWO, UH, BRIDGE HILL FIRE BLANKETS, AGAIN, THE MULTIMEDIA PRESENTATION THAT MS. BASQUE, WHICH I'LL SHOW YOU, WE'VE, UH, TO ADDRESS SOME OF OUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE FIRES.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN A PREVIOUS MEETING, IS THAT ELECTRIC VEHICLES ARE GONNA REQUIRE, UH, ONCE THEY HIT THERMAL RUNAWAY, THEY'RE GONNA CONSUME TREMENDOUS AMOUNTS OF WATER, UM, THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF GALLONS.

SO THIS, UH, BLANKET IS A, IS A MEANS TO HOPE WE GET THEM UNDER CONTROL IN A, IN A QUICKER FASHION UNTIL WE CAN PROVIDE THE ADEQUATE RESOURCES TO PUT THE FIRES OUT.

UM, OUR NEW ENGINE SHOULD BE ARRIVING SHORTLY.

UM, AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON ADDITIONAL, UH, FACILITY RE UH, UH, REFURBISHMENTS COMPANY ONE JUST FINISHED OUT THEIRS.

AND WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING COMPANY THREE AND FIVE DONE.

AS ALWAYS, WE CONTINUE TO NEED VOLUNTEERS.

WE'RE ACCEPTING, UH, APPLICATIONS.

UM, WE, UH, CONDUCT ALL THE TRAINING AND WE'LL PROVIDE IT FOR FREE.

UM, LASTLY, THE KIND OF THE STANDING THING THAT CHIEF FERGUSON ALWAYS WANTS TO MAKE FOLKS AWARE OF.

IF SOMEONE NEEDS A SMOKE DETECTOR, PLEASE CALL US.

THIS IS A SIMPLE, THIS IS A LOW COST AND VERY EASY THING FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO DO.

WE'RE HAPPY TO COME TO SOMEONE'S HOME, INSTALL AS MANY SMOKE DETECTORS AS THEY NEED, UH, THROUGHOUT THEIR RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE ONE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO, UH, TO SAVE, SAVE LIVES, IS TO, TO HAVE THOSE THINGS UP AND AVAILABLE.

UM, THE LAST THING I'LL END WITH IS THAT THE FIRE SHOW IS OCTOBER 14TH OF THIS YEAR.

THAT'S THE END OF FIRE PREVENTION WEEK.

SO WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO, WE BUILD ON THE FIRST FIRE SHOW WE'VE HAD IN MANY YEARS LAST YEAR.

WE HOPE TO BUILD ON THAT THIS YEAR.

UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE AS FAR AS A REPORT.

I'LL BE GLAD TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU.

DEPUTY CHIEF BOARD.

ANY QUESTIONS? JUST, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEP.

AND I'LL BE GLAD TO EXPLAIN.

VERY NICE.

DO YOU HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? QUICK QUESTION.

WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, DO WE SAY THE COST? I YOU, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS ANSWERED THERE IN THE SLIDE UP TO 30 USES FOR EACH BLANKET.

IT'S ABOUT $2,700 PER BLANKET.

IT'S A HIGH, IT'S A, IT'S A KEVLAR OR A NOMEX TYPE MATERIAL.

UM, THE, THE KEY PIECE FOR US AND AND FOR GUC IS, AGAIN, WITH, WITH LIMITED MANPOWER OR A ELECTRIC VEHICLE IN THERMAL RUNWAY, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST PUT A STOP ON IT INITIALLY.

UM, WE ALSO KIND OF CONSIDER THAT WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH A PARK DECK, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, CARMAX OR, UM, CAPITAL ONE.

THIS IS AN I OPTION TO GET IN THERE.

UM, AS WELL AS ANY TIME WE

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HAVE TIGHTLY PACKED PARKING SPACES.

THIS, THIS WOULD HELP US PREVENT DAMAGE TO, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT VEHICLES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE BY CONTAINING IT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR REPORTS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

L TWO REPORTS ARE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT AND THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE REPORT ARE IN OUR PACKETS.

UP NEXT, LI WE, I DON'T SEE MR. UM, MR. CARPENTER GONNA

[4. 5683: Planning and Development Activity]

GIVE US A BROADBAND REPORT.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ON MR. DRUMRIGHT IS ON VACATION, NOT IN KEY WEST, BUT ON VACATION FOR SPRING BREAK THIS WEEK.

[6. Broadband Report]

UM, JUST A FEW ITEMS. OF COURSE, THE, UH, OVERALL REPORT IS IN YOUR, YOUR PACKET.

BUT, UH, SOME HIGHLIGHTS TO HIT, UH, FIRST OF ALL IS THAT DOMINION ENERGY IS NOW APPROVED DESIGN OF 81 MILES OF THE TOTAL 108 MILES FROM MIDDLE MILE FIBER BUILD.

SO 20 LESS THAN 27 MILES REMAIN FOR THEIR DESIGN REVIEW AND QUALITY CONTROL OF THE 19.7 MILES HAVE BEEN RELEASED BY DOMINION FOR CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN, UH, THE, UM, THEY BEGAN THE FIELD DATA COLLECTION IN THE RISE AREA, WHICH IS THE THREE SQUARE PART OF THE COUNTY.

UH, AND THEY ANTICIPATE DOMINION IS STILL ON SCHEDULE TO BE COMPLETED WITH, UH, ALL OF THEIR MIDDLE MILE CONSTRUCTION BY THE END OF 2023.

THAT IS MY REPORT.

THANK YOU, MR. CARPENTER.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARPENTER? MR. DRUM RIGHT HAND HERE.

WE CAN GIVE HIM SOME REALLY HARD ONES.

ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

THANKS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON.

UM, THIS IS A TIME FOR OUR BOARD REPORTS.

ANY

[7. Board Reports]

BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT FROM THE COMMITTEES, WHICH THEY SIT? I'LL, I'LL COVER THE TPO QUICKLY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, YOU ALL FOR, AND WHAT WAS IT? DID YOU WANT MR. CARPENT? DID YOU WON SOMETHING AT THE, UH, .

AT THE TPO, WHAT WAS IT? A TICKETS? UH, YES.

UM, UM, AIRLINE TICKETS, UH, ON SOUTHWEST.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S A QUESTION.

SO WE HAD A, WE HAD A FUN, WE HAD A FUN, UH, FUN MEETING, A TRANSPORTATION FORM AT THE MAIN STREET STATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE HERE THAT SHOWED UP.

THANK YOU.

AND THOUGHT IT WENT WELL.

IT'S, AGAIN, A GOOD SIGN OF CONTINUED REGIONAL EFFORTS AND COOPERATION.

AND WE ARE MEETING LATER THIS WEEK, SO I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT, UM, IN BETWEEN THE, THE TRANSPORTATION FORM.

BUT WE DO HAVE A FEW THINGS ON THE AGENDA THAT, UM, ARE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT THE COST OF, YOU KNOW, WAY TO MANAGE PROJECTS IN A WAY THAT, UH, WE'RE MORE MINDFUL AND ENGAGED WITH COST OVERRUNS.

SO, UM, I'LL REPORT BACK NEXT MONTH ON WHAT WE GET DONE, BUT WE'RE WINDING DOWN THE CHAIRMANSHIP.

I'LL JUST HAVE A FEW MORE MEETINGS.

UM, WHEN IS THE, WE'RE HAVING A TRANSPORTATION, UM, JOINT.

DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE JOINT MEETING IS OF CBTA A IS THAT IN AUGUST? NO, NO.

IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE JUNE.

JUNE.

IT'S JUNE.

SOMETIME IN JUNE.

I THINK OUR MEETING, OUR MEETING IN JUNE, UM, WILL BE CBT, A PLAN, RVA AND, UM, THE TPO TOGETHER.

SO, UH, WE CONTINUE TO, TRANSPORTATION CONTINUES TO BE A BIG PIECE THAT WE WORK ON.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. WATER BEING COMPLAINER.

DA, NOTHING ON MATERIALITY.

I'LL STICK WITH, I KNOW MR. PETERSON, I'LL STICK WITH THE TRANSPORTATION THEME.

CVT AS CONTINUES TO GROW AND DEVELOP ITS PROCESSES, HAS, UM, ARE WORKING NOW TO, UH, DECIDE HOW WE'RE GOING TO ELECT THE NEW CHAIRS AND VICE CHAIRS.

AND THERE'S SOME, THERE WAS SOME INTERESTING DISCUSSION AROUND, UH, A ROTATION VERSUS JUST, UH, HAVING A, A NON ROTATION BOARD WHERE THERE'D BE MORE LIKE POLITICKING AND VOTING.

SO WE'LL SEE WHICH WAY THAT GOES.

UH, BUT THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GUC IN THERE, UH, MORE TO COME ON THAT YOU THINK FROM FINANCE.

NOT APOLOGIES.

I COULDN'T BE THERE WITH THE CASTLE FOLKS.

I UNDERSTAND.

UM, YEAH, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU.

UM, THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING, UH, OR COMMITTEE DID MEET JUST PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.

AND WE HAD A VERY LIVELY DISCUSSION.

AND WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE SUCH ENGAGED CITIZENS AND STAFF AND, AND BOARD MEMBERS, UH, IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE AS IT TURNS OUT, THIS PROCESS STARTED IN THE FALL, UH, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME.

AND A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THEN.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE UH, DISCUSSED WAS AN UP UPDATE ON THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 23 AND REVISED POTENTIAL NUMBERS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24 BASED ON NEW INFORMATION.

AND SO WE HAD A LIVELY DISCUSSION AROUND, UM, HOW THAT NEW INFORMATION AND THE, UM, RESIDUAL SHOULD BE ALLOCATED.

AND, AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONSENSUS AROUND THE COMMITTEE TO BRING FORWARD TO THIS BOARD, UH, A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE TAKE A ANOTHER HARD LOOK AT SALARIES, UM, UH, IN VIRTUALLY ALL THE AREAS OF THE COUNTY, JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT GIVEN THE THINGS THAT HAVE TRANSPIRED AND THE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE TRANSPIRING AS WE SPEAK, THAT WE REMAIN COMPETITIVE, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO ATTRACTING AND RETAINING THE TOP TALENT.

UM, WE'VE GOT A, A, A TOP TALENT, UH, TEAM THAT'S JUST INCREDIBLY TALENTED.

WE WANNA HANG ON TO THOSE FOLKS.

AND WE ALSO WANNA BE ABLE TO ATTRACT A NEW TALENT THAT'S, UH, THE SAME KIND OF QUALITY.

SO, SO ONE OF THE CONSENSUS

[00:45:01]

WAS LET'S TAKE ANOTHER HARD LOOK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WHERE WE NEED TO BE ON THAT.

UM, AND THEN BEYOND THAT, UM, WE HAD A DISCUSSION AROUND MAINTAINING OUR RESERVES AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE BUDGET.

SO AS THE BUDGET INCREASES, MAKING SURE THAT WE, UH, PROPORTIONALLY INCREASE THE RESERVES.

AND THEN, UH, THERE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE, THERE WILL BE SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS AVAILABLE TO, UH, FOR SOME OF THE CAPITAL SPENDING PROJECTS THAT WE'VE, UH, GOT ON THE BOOKS THAT WE WANT TO GET FUNDED.

WE MAY BETTER PULL SOME AHEAD OR, OR PROVIDE ADDITIONAL CAPITAL TO THOSE.

UH, UH, AND THEN ALSO, UM, ADDRESS WHAT, UH, AN ISSUE THAT CITIZENS HAVE BROUGHT UP TIME AND AGAIN, UH, AT LEAST TO ME ABOUT, UH, THE VEHICLE TAX AND, UM, SOME POTENTIAL RELIEF.

AND WE, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.

AND, UM, AND BOUNCED AROUND SOME THOUGHTS AND IDEAS ON HOW TO ALLOCATE THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR ACROSS THOSE DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT I JUST MENTIONED.

THE POTENTIAL FOR TAX RELIEF, THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL SPENDING, THE POTENTIAL TO MAINTAIN OUR RESERVES AS THE BUDGET GROWS, UM, GIVEN THE REVISED, UH, PROJECTIONS AND THE NEW INFORMATION.

SO THAT WAS OUR, UM, LIVELY DISCUSSION.

UM, AND THERE'LL BE MORE TO COME, IT'LL BE INCUMBENT ON THIS BOARD TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS ON HOW MUCH AND, AND, AND WHERE AND WHEN, AND HOW THAT, THAT TAKES PLACE IN THE FINAL BUDGET.

UM, BUT TODAY, I GUESS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT IT'S, UH, THE ACTUAL ADOPTION TAKES PLACE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

SO THERE MAY BE SOME TIME TO TAKE THAT, THAT ADDITIONAL HARD LOOK AT THE, UH, THE SALARY SIDE OF THINGS.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALL I REPORT, UH, MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU, MR. PETERSON.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

TAKE, THAT'S ALL OF OUR BOARD REPORTS.

UH, WE ARE MOVING INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA.

I WOULD ASK MR. CARPENTER TO

[XII. Consent Agenda]

GO THROUGH EACH ONE AND THEN BOARD, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THEM AS A SLATE, OR IF YOU WANNA PULL ANYONE OUT, WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS.

UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

YOU HAVE THREE ITEMS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY FOR YOUR CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM NUMBER 1 56 74 IS AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 GOSHEN COUNTY BUDGET BY APPROPRIATING AN ADDITIONAL $73,125 IN THE SOCIAL SERVICES FUND.

UH, THEY'RE REQUESTING THIS, UH, THEY'RE APPROVED FOR REIMBURSEMENT BY, BY THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES.

REIMBURSEMENT WILL BE THROUGH THE LASER PROCESS.

THESE ARE FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS.

THEREFORE, NO ADDITIONAL LOCAL FUNDS ARE REQUESTED.

THE SECOND ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU, ITEM 56 68, WOULD BE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE FIVE ON-CALL ENGINEERING SERVICE CONTRACTS.

OUR EXISTING ON-CALL CONTRACTS FOR ENGINEERING ARE EXPIRING.

AN RFP WAS ISSUED IN DECEMBER 5TH, 2022 TO ESTABLISH NEW ON-CALL.

PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING SERVICE CONTRACTS ON-CALL CONTRACTS PROVIDE EXPEDITED ACCESS TO PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERING FIRMS FOR ANTICIPATED SERVICES NEEDED BY THE COUNTY.

THESE CONTRACTS HAVE A ONE YEAR INITIAL TERM, AND THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THREE ANNUAL RENEWALS FOR A MAXIMUM TERM OF FOUR YEARS.

NO APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS IS REQUIRED FOR THESE CONTRACTS TO BE EXECUTED.

THE FIVE FIRMS THAT ARE BEING RECOMMENDED ARE DEWBERRY ENGINEERS, INCORPORATED, HURT AND PROFIT INCORPORATED, RANKER DESIGN ASSOCIATES, PC, RUMMEL, CLIPPER, AND COL, LLL P AND TIM'S GROUP INCORPORATED.

AND THE THIRD ITEM FROM YOU TONIGHT IS 56 81, WHICH IS AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH CALLON HOSPITALITY, LLC FOR EMERGENCY SHELTER SERVICES AT THE RESIDENCE IN THE MARRIOT OF THE NOTCH.

AND APRIL 21, UH, THE MARRIOTT RESIDENCE IN OPENED MACUGON COUNTY, AND THEY AGREED TO PARTNER WITH GUEN COUNTY AND OFFER DISCOUNTED HOTEL ROOM RATES TO BOTH EMERGENCY SERVICES AND SOCIAL SERVICES IF NECESSARY.

THE DEPARTMENT THAT PLACES AN INDIVIDUAL FACILITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IDENTIFYING THE SOURCE OF PAYMENT PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF PLACEMENT AT THE FACILITY.

ALL HI, ALL HOTEL ROOM STAYS MUST BE APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN ADVANCE.

THIS AGREEMENT WAS CREATED SO THAT BOTH EMS AND DSS WOULD HAVE AN, AN IDENTIFIED LOCATION IN CHEN COUNTY IN CASE TEMPORARY LODGING IS NECESSARY.

THIS AMENDMENT WILL MERELY EXTEND THE TERM FOR AN ADDITIONAL TWO YEARS AND UPDATES THE CONTACT INFORMATION.

MR. CHAIRMAN, THOSE ARE THE THREE ITEMS IN FRONT OF YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CARPENTER.

OKAY.

BOARD, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. THANK YOU, MR. LUMPKINS.

THESE AS A GROUP, RIGHT? UH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION TO TAKE THESE AS A GROUP.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOS.

MOTION CARRIES CONSENT.

AGENDA PASSES.

ALL RIGHT.

NEW BUSINESS.

UM, MOVING RIGHT ALONG HERE, FOLKS.

UM, IT IS ALWAYS AMAZING

[XIII. New Business]

TO SEE HOW, HOW, HOW MANY FOLKS ARE WILLING TO PUT THEIR TIME AND, UH, RESOURCES

[00:50:01]

AND TALENTS TO SUPPORT OUR COUNTY.

THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, THAT GOES ON THAT, UH, PEOPLE DO VOLUNTEER TO DO TO HELP US.

AND WE'VE GOT, SO OUR APPRECIATION FOR EVERYBODY THAT APPLIES, UH, WE HAVE A FEW DIFFERENT POSITIONS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, UH, TO, UH, GET SOME FOLKS TO HELP WITH SOME APPOINTMENTS.

THE FIRST IS THE LOCAL BOARD OF BUILDING CODE APPEALS.

UH, THIS, AND WE HAVE A JEROME JACKSON DISTRICT TWO.

THIS, THIS IS A REAPPOINTMENT FOR TWO YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE JUNE 1ST, 2023, GOING THROUGH MAY 31ST, 2025.

AND CHARLES REED GILLIE FROM DISTRICT FIVE, WHICH IS ALSO A REAPPOINTMENT FOR THE TWO YEAR TERM IN THE SAME PERIOD.

ON OUR RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, WE HAVE A MS. BRANDY SIMS, WHO RESIDES IN DISTRICT FOUR AND WOULD BE THE D FOUR D FIVE MEMBER APPOINTMENT FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, EFFECTIVE APRIL 4TH, 2023 THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 2025.

CARRIE MONGER, WHO RESIDES IN DISTRICT THREE AND WOULD BE THE AT LARGE MEMBER.

AND THAT WOULD BE AN APPOINTMENT FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, EFFECTIVE APRIL 4TH THROUGH MARCH 31ST, 2025.

AND FINALLY, WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY POLICY AND MANAGEMENT TEAM, PAUL BRATTON AND REAPPOINTMENT, UH, FOR A TWO YEAR TERM, EFFECTIVE MAY 1ST, 2023 THROUGH APRIL 30TH, 2025.

THOSE ARE THE APPOINTEES.

UH, MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS OF APRIL 4TH TO THE VARIOUS BOARDS LISTED.

SECOND.

OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

THE MOTION CARRIES.

THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE CITIZENS AND WELCOME.

WELCOME.

AND I KNOW THAT, UM, UH, MR. BRETTON HAS BEEN SERVING FOR QUITE A LONG TIME IN THAT CAPACITY.

WE APPRECIATE ALL THE FOLKS THAT ARE, UH, SERVING IN OUR, HELPING OUR COUNTY.

SUCH A GREAT PLACE.

UH, IF MY AGENDA IS RIGHT, THAT LEAVE US RIGHT UP TO OUR RECESS FOR DINNER BREAK.

SO WE'LL BE BACK HERE AT SIX O'CLOCK.

YEAH, WE'RE GOOD.

[XIV. Dinner Break/Recess]

REALLY GOOD.

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THAT WAS THE SCRIPT HE HAD.

HE I FIGURED HE DIDN'T, YEAH, WELL, WELL, HE DIDN'T SAY SIX MONTHS.

I KNOW, BUT AGAIN, THAT WAS FUNNY.

I DID NOTICE, I DID NOTICE THAT.

I WAS LIKE, I WAS, I FIGURED HE WAS SO, HE WAS SO FOCUSED ON SOMETHING THAT I WASN'T GONNA SAY I HEARD SIX MONTHS.

AND ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE TEST, TEST.

NOPE.

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OH,

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YEAH,

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IT'S

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GETTING

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AUDIO.

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OH,

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ZOOM

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DOES.

YEAH.

THEN IT IS THE PROGRAM, MAN.

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OH, OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

LET ME, YEAH, WHEN WE, OOPS, I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT, RIGHT, WHICH WE, WHICH WE SAY WE CAN WAIT EVEN WHEN WE, I DUNNO WHY THAT PROGRAM WOULD MESS UP.

YEAH.

I DON'T KNOW.

UH,

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ALL

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RIGHT.

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GOOD

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EVENING

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FOLKS.

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UH,

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THANKS

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FOR

[XV. 6:00 PM - Chair Calls Meeting Back to Order]

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BEING

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HERE.

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TO

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ORDER

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THE,

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UH,

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GUCCI

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BOARD

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OF

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SUPERVISORS

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APRIL 4TH,

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UH,

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MEETING.

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THIS

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FOR

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OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UH, WE START THE MEETING WITH CITIZEN COMMENT.

AND CITIZEN COMMENT IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

CITIZEN'S COMMENT IS FOR

[XVI. Citizen Comment]

FOLKS TO COME UP AND ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ISSUES THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA DYNAMICS.

SO WE HAVE THREE, UM, THREE DIFFERENT HEARING PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ONE IS TO SET THE TAX RATE.

THE SECOND ONE IS TO CONSIDER THE FISCAL BUDGET BUDGETS.

AND THE THIRD ONE IS THE FEE SCHEDULE.

SO, UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP FOR THE FIRST CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.

SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUDGET RELA, BUDGET RELATED, LIKE I JUST MEANT, JUST MENTIONED, PLEASE COME ON UP AND, UH, PLEASE TURN ON THE MICROPHONE.

THERE'S A LITTLE GREEN BUTTON OR RED BUTTON TO TURN TO GREEN.

YOU HAVE US GIVE YOUR, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, AND THE LIGHT WILL START BLINKING YELLOW, AND YOU HAVE ABOUT A MINUTE TO GO.

AND THEN IT'LL TURN RED AT THREE MINUTES AND TRY TO WRAP IT UP THEN.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN UP THE CITIZEN COMMENT.

PERIOD.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

JONATHAN LAU 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.

UH, I AM CHAIRMAN OF THE MONICANS SOIL WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, THE DIRECTOR FOR THE CHEN FARM BUREAU.

MY COMMENTS ARE MY OWN AND NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT, THOSE ORGANIZATIONS.

UM, WE HAD OUR AG EXPO, FIRST AG EXPO THIS PAST WEEKEND, AND, UH, MR. LUMPKINS AND I WERE THERE AND HAD A ANIMATED CONVERSATION WITH ONE OF THE CITIZENS.

AND, AND THE QUESTION CAME UP, WHAT IS RURAL? AND I'VE USED THE PHRASE, KEEP GUC AND RURAL, UH, MORE THAN ONCE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS.

AND MR TO HIS CREDIT IS ALWAYS SAID, WELL, WHAT IS RURAL? AND SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS A GOOD SPARK.

AND I'VE ACTUALLY ASSEMBLED MY DEFINITION AND, AND, AND I ACTUALLY HAVE WEBSTERS AS WELL, BUT MINE IS, IS WHAT IS RURAL.

AND RURAL IS WHERE THERE IS A MINDSET THAT PEOPLE ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THINGS.

RURAL IS WHERE RESIDENTS RECOGNIZE RURAL LIFE HAS LIVED AT A SLOWER PACE.

PEOPLE HAVE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION NOT TO IMPORT THE FRENETIC LIFESTYLE OF THE CITY THAT MOST PEOPLE MOVED HERE TO AVOID.

PEOPLE KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS AND HAVE ACTUAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN'T ALWAYS SEE THEIR HOUSES.

WATER COMES FROM A, WELL, ONE ENCOUNTERS LIVESTOCK WITHIN A MILE OF ONE'S MAILBOX.

A COMMON QUESTION ASKED IS, DO YOU HAVE A WHOLE HOUSE GENERATOR? ELECTRICAL OUTAGES DO OCCUR.

NOISE COMPLAINTS ARE MORE OFTEN ANIMAL OR FIREARM RELATED, AS OPPOSED TO BOOM BOXES AND LOUD POP MUSIC.

MOST ROADS ARE TWO-LANE MAJOR ROADWAYS, OR FOUR-LANE, AND THERE AREN'T THAT MANY OF 'EM.

WAITING FOR MORE THAN 30 SECONDS AT AN INTERSECTION IS BAD TRAFFIC.

SLOW TRAFFIC CAN BE CAUSED BY FARM EQUIPMENT.

THERE ARE FEWER RETAIL SHOPPING OPTIONS.

DRIVING TO BUY GROCERIES IS THE NORM.

PEOPLE WILL SAY, I HAVE TO GO INTO TOWN TO GET FILL IN THE BLANK DENSITY.

THERE ARE FEWER THAN A HUNDRED PEOPLE PER SQUARE MILE.

RESIDENTS ARE TYPICALLY ON HOME SITES OF AN ACRE OR MORE HIGHER

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RESIDENTIAL DENSITIES OF TWO TO SIX HOMES PER ACRE ARE CLUSTERED IN VILLAGES.

HAMLETS, WHERE IF WE HAD ONE, A TOWN, TOWN, HOMES, MULTI-FAMILY CONNECTED DWELLING UNITS, APARTMENTS, CONDOS, AND TOWN HOMES ARE THE EXCEPTION, NOT THE RULE.

SCHOOLS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND CHURCHES ARE CENTRAL POINTS IN THE COMMUNITY'S SOCIAL FABRIC.

PEOPLE FEEL SAFE.

SO THAT'S MY DEFINITION.

WEBSTERS DOES SAY RURAL, IT'S AN ADJECTIVE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE COUNTRY AS DISTINGUISHED FROM CITIES OR TOWNS RUSTIC OPPOSED TO URBAN HAVING TO DO WITH FARMING.

AGRICULTURAL SIMPLE UN ADORED.

THE LIGHT'S FLASHING.

THERE YOU GO, MR. LUKINS.

THAT IS WHAT I MEAN WHEN I SAY RURAL.

THANK YOU, MR. LAO.

ANYONE ELSE FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? MAY I ASK A QUESTION? DID YOU SAY THAT WE COULDN'T COMMENT ON ANYTHING UNDER THE PUBLIC HEARINGS? CORRECT.

THE, THE, WE WE'LL OPEN A PUBLIC, UM, COMMENT PERIOD FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THIS IS FOR THINGS THAT AREN'T ON THE AGENDA.

GOTCHA.

SURE.

OKAY.

I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE COMING FORWARD.

I'M GONNA CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.

UM, I DID WANT TO GIVE A BRIEF PSA.

UM, I WAS ASKED BY OUR DEPUTY CHIEF, UH, FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT, UM, THE FIRE COMPANY IS DOING A SURVEY.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR INFORMATION AND THERE ARE SHEETS ON THE BACK TABLE.

SO AS YOU'RE LEAVING, IF YOU COULD GRAB ONE SO THAT YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GIVE, UM, THEM THAT FEEDBACK THAT THEY IS SO VALUABLE TO THEM.

SO THANK YOU.

UM, AT, WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE, UM, OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, INTRODUCE OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, MR.

[XVII. Public Hearings]

CARLA CAVE, WHO'S GONNA TALK ABOUT THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE.

HELLO.

[1. 5669: Public Hearing to Consider the Proposed 2023 Real Estate Tax Rate, 6:00]

BOARD MEMBERS AND PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.

SOME CARLA CAVE, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE.

UM, AND LISA, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ONE.

SLIDE ONE, IF YOU COULD PUT IT ON THE FIRST SLIDE, YOU USE YOUR, OH, I GUESS I NEED TO DO THAT, HUH? OKAY.

OKAY.

SO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS TO TALK ABOUT THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE.

AND AS EVERYONE'S PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH, EACH TIME WE DO AN ASSESSMENT, WE NEED TO COME TO AN EFFECTIVE TAX RATE.

UM, COUNTIES, EACH TIME AN ASSESSMENT IS DONE, NEED TO EQUALIZE THE RATE SO THAT THEY DON'T BENEFIT MORE THAN 1% OVER THE CURRENT YEAR REVENUE.

UM, SO WITH OUR MOST RECENT AS ASSESSMENT, OUR INCREASE WAS 9.6% IN VALUE.

THOSE ARE CURRENT HOUSES, NOT NEW CONSTRUCTION.

THEY'VE INCREASED OVER THE YEAR OF 9.6%.

THE LOWERED RATE NECESSARY TO OFFSET THAT INCREASED ASSESSMENT WOULD BE 47 CENTS.

SO THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IS, UM, TO GET PEOPLE'S OPINION ON THE EFFECTIVE RATE INCREASE, WHICH IS 6%, UM, WHICH IS A 12.8% INCREASE OF REAL ESTATE TAX.

AND AS A SIDE NOTE, OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET WILL EXCEED LAST YEAR'S BY 19.3%.

THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.

WE HAVEN'T ADOPTED YET.

THAT COULD CHANGE, AND THE TOTAL BUDGET WILL EXCEED LAST YEAR'S BY 13.4%.

SO WE ARE LOOKING TO KEEP OUR TAX RATE AT 53 CENT PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUE.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS, MS. LASETTE? I DO.

UH, MS. CASH.

SO, UM, FOR THE RECORD, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN COUNTY REVENUE BETWEEN 47 CENTS AND 53 CENTS? EACH CENT INCREASE IN REAL ESTATE IS ABOUT $800,000.

SO 1.4 MILLION.

THANK YOU.

IF I DID THAT MATH OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

RIGHT? THANK YOU.

YES, YOU'RE WELCOME.

OKAY.

HMM.

4.848.

OKAY.

4.8.

COULD YOU 4.8 MILLION FOR THE REST OF US .

I GUESS I DID NOT DO THAT RIGHT.

UM, MISS, MISS CAY, YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE PENNY IS WORTH ABOUT 800.

800 MM-HMM.

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AND WE HAVE A SIX PENNY DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

4.8.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING AT MY HEAD THAT, THANK YOU, .

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT WAS NOT QUESTION ? OKAY.

UH, CARL, MS. CAPE, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY COMPS LIKE TO SHOW IN A TABLE RELATIVE TO THE COUNTY'S BORDERING US AND AROUND US? I DON'T HAVE THAT OFFHAND.

I CAN GET THAT TO YOU, BUT NO, I DON'T HAVE THAT TO PUT UP ON THE SCREEN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MR. PETERSON.

MR. ONE OTHER THING, UM, WE'RE REQUIRED TO GIVE THAT NOTICE, UM,

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BY STATE CODE, I GUESS, UM, THAT IF WE EXCEED THE 1%, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT 47 VERSUS THE 53, THAT THAT REVENUE NEUTRAL KIND OF RATE, IF YOU WILL.

COUPLE COUPLE THINGS ON THAT.

ONE IS, UM, WHEN ASSESSMENTS DROP, WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO SAY THAT 53 SHOULD GO UP TO 57 TO BE REVENUE NEUTRAL.

WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO TO DO THAT.

SO WHEN THE DOWNTURNS, IT'S KIND OF SILENCE AND QUIET, AND THEN WHEN YOU START TO TURN BACK UP, THERE'S A LOT OF NOTICE.

RIGHT? BUT THE SECOND THING I THINK I'D MENTIONED IS THAT REVENUE NEUTRAL IS NOT ADJUSTED FOR CHANGES IN POPULATION AND IT'S NOT ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION.

SO IF YOU HAVE, SAY, 2% POPULATION GROWTH AND FOUR OR 5% INFLATION, IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A REVENUE NEUTRAL TO THAT ADJUSTED NUMBER BASED ON THE DEMAND FOR SERVICES FOR THE COUNTY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MS. LUKINS, SINCE WE'RE ALL CHIMING IN HERE, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL SAY IT ALSO DOESN'T COUNT NEW.

THAT'S, THAT'S AN EXISTING CALCULATION BASED ON EXISTING YES.

NOT, IT DOESN'T COUNT.

ALL ASSESSMENTS TAKEN THE PRIOR YEAR ARE REASSESSED AND ONLY THAT ONLY THE EXISTING NO, NO NEW PROPERTIES THAT COME ON.

RIGHT.

YOU EXCLUDE NEW CONSTRUCTION.

YEP.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? ALL RIGHT.

SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SAME SORT OF GUIDELINES AS THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE COME UP, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN, UH, PLEASE TRY TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

OKAY.

SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AFTER ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC.

DID WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR IT? TRYING TO BE FUNNY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, WE DON'T NEED, OH, WE DON'T NEED, I'M SORRY.

WE'RE NOT VOTING TONIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND, UM, ITEM, WHICH IS OUR, OUR BUDGETS.

RIGHT? SO THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS ON THE 2024 PROPOSED TOTAL

[2. 5670: Public Hearing to Consider the Proposed Fiscal Year 2024 County Budget,]

COUNTY BUDGET CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM AND PROPOSED 2023 TAX RATES.

AND I'LL REMIND EVERYONE LISTENING AGAIN, THAT, UM, A PROPOSED BUDGET WAS PUT BEFORE THE BOARD FEBRUARY 21ST.

WE ADOPTED APRIL 18TH.

WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF, UH, REVIEWING MAKING CHANGES.

UM, BUT THIS IS WHERE WE'RE AT CURRENTLY.

UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A BOTTOM LINE BUDGET OF $141,006,148.

THAT'S A 13.4% INCREASE OVER THE CURRENT YEAR WITH OUR C I P.

WE'VE INCREASED IT BY ABOUT $2 MILLION CURRENTLY FROM WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED.

UM, HERE'S THE LAYOUT OF WHERE THOSE C I P FUNDS WOULD GO.

THE BIGGEST PORTION WOULD BE TO FIRE RESCUE, CURRENTLY FUNDING A WEST CREEK FIRE STATION.

UM, WELL, I'M SORRY, THE BI, THE LARGEST WOULD BE TO EDUCATION.

AND THE BULK OF THAT IS FOR GUIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

THE SECOND LARGEST WOULD BE FOR THE WEST CREEK FIRE STATION.

AND IN BRINGING UP THAT, WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING, UM, OUR INITIAL PRESENTATION.

UM, THIS IS A REMINDER THAT WE WILL COME BACK, RECONVENE ON APRIL 18TH.

AND THOSE, THESE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND WHATEVER WE DECIDE BETWEEN NOW AND THEN WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE FINAL NUMBERS PRESENTED FOR ADOPTION.

THEN.

SO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WHEN WE STARTED DRAFTING THE BUDGET BACK IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER OF 22, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK FOR SESSION.

THERE WAS A LOT OF TALK ABOUT DRASTIC DROPS IN VEHICLE ASSESSMENTS, UM, ALL KINDS OF THINGS SWIRLING AROUND.

WE TOOK A VERY CONSERVATIVE APPROACH.

WE PUT TOGETHER A BALANCED BUDGET.

SINCE THEN, WE'VE SEEN, UM, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE FEDS THAT THE INTEREST RATE IS GONNA REMAIN HIGH.

WE HAVE SEEN THAT THE VEHICLES ARE NOT GONNA DROP IN VALUE AS DRASTICALLY AS WE HAD ORIGINALLY THOUGHT.

UM, WE TOOK ANOTHER LOOK AT OUR REAL ESTATE VALUES AND WE ACCOUNTED FOR A LARGE, A LARGER AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAN WE HAD ORIGINALLY.

SO BETWEEN THOSE THREE ITEMS, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ADD JUST UNDER $5 MILLION TO OUR REVENUE.

AND NOW THE QUESTION HAS BECOME HOW DO WE BEST SPEND THAT? UM, WE CAN PUT IT ALL TOWARDS LARGE C I P PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE COMING UP IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

WE CAN PUT IT ALL IN OPERATING EXPENSES.

UM, WE CAN PUT SOME TOWARDS RESERVE.

THERE'S A MIX OF WAYS TO GO ABOUT DOING THAT, AND THAT'S THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE CONTINUED TO HAVE IN THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETINGS AMONGST BOARD MEMBERS, AMONGST STAFF.

SO CURRENTLY WORKING ON THAT.

BUT HERE'S A LAYOUT AND I'VE, I'VE PLACED THEM IN THREE EQUAL BUCKETS FOR NOW AND WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO ASSESS THAT.

AND

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AS FAR AS ALL OF THE TAX RATE, WE JUST DISCUSSED, THE REAL ESTATE TAX RATE, BUT THIS IS A LISTING OF OUR CURRENT TAX RATES.

WE ARE, LIKE I SAID, UM, CONTINUING TO LOOK AT WAYS TO GIVE A PORTION OF THAT 5 MILLION BACK TO CITIZENS AND SOME PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF.

SO YOU WILL SEE THAT THIS IS STILL LISTED AT $3 AND 75 CENTS FOR PERSONAL VEHICLES.

THAT WILL MORE THAN LIKELY DECREASE.

WE ARE JUST NOT SURE WHAT THE NEW RATE WILL BE, BUT, UM, I'VE LEFT IT AT THE CURRENT RATE FOR TONIGHT'S PURPOSE.

UM, WE ALSO HAD A MEETING EARLIER TODAY WITH THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, AND I'M GONNA LET THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR GIVE A SUMMARY OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED THERE, CUZ WE HAD A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU MS. CAVE.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

UH, EARLIER TODAY WE DID, UH, PRESENT TO, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE, UH, WHERE WE WERE.

MS. CAVE JUST SHOWED YOU, UH, THE, THAT'S WHAT I FOUND.

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SORRY, .

UM, YEAH, SO MS. CAVE JUST SHOWED YOU THE, UH, NEW PROJECTIONS FOR REVENUES.

UH, THE REVENUE'S SHOWING, UH, APPROXIMATELY A $5 MILLION INCREASE.

SO AT THE MEETING THAT WE WERE AT TODAY, WHERE WE STARTED WITH IS JUST KIND OF WANTED, SHOW SOME HISTORY OF WHAT WE'VE DONE THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF THE REVENUES WE'VE BROUGHT IN AND THEN WHAT THAT ALLOWED US TO TRANSFER TO CIP P AND TO OUR RESERVES.

SO, UH, 2023 IS THE AUDITED FINAL ACTUAL FIGURES.

UH, THE 24 NUMBER IS OUR CURRENT BUDGET FIGURES WITH THE NEW 5 MILLION INCLUDED.

WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WOULD END 24 AS FAR AS AMOUNTS AVAILABLE TO BE ADDED TO OUR RESERVES, BUT IT SHOWS A STEADY AND STRONG GROWTH, UH, THROUGH OUR ECONOMY TO OUR BUDGET FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.

AND IT SHOWS A STEADY AND STRONG AND DEPENDABLE AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS TO TRANSFER INTO OUR VARIOUS PROGRAMS FOR THE COUNTY.

NOW, IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED THAT WE WOULD HAVE ABOUT A $5 MILLION EXCESS INCOME COMING IN.

THE ORIGINAL BUDGET THAT WE PRESENTED WAS VERY STRONG FINANCIALLY, FISCALLY, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS CUZ AS WE LOOKED AS THE ECONOMY DID NOT GO DOWN THE ROAD THAT WE FEARED IT WOULD AS WE LOOKED AND THINGS DID NOT HAPPEN THAT WE THOUGHT THEY MIGHT, INFLATION DIDN'T KEEP GOING UP, IT MODERATED A LITTLE BIT.

SO THAT ALLOWED US TO COME UP WITH THAT.

AND THIS SHOWS YOU WHERE THE REVENUES ACTUALLY CAME FROM, UH, AS WE LOOKED AT OUR REAL ESTATE TAXES TO SEE WHAT'S COMING ON THE BOOK.

SO WE REALLY CAN DEPENDABLY COUNT ON AS WE LOOK AT OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY AS NEW CARS COME IN AS PEOPLE MOVE IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THE GROWTH OF INTEREST INCOME AS WELL.

NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WHEN I FIRST PRESENTED THIS BUDGET TO YOU AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF TAX RELIEF, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT AND WE WERE LOOKING AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO DO WAS, AND I USED A FIGURE $5,000 PER VEHICLE.

AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE SERIOUSLY TRIED, VERY HARD TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK.

BUT AFTER WEEKS AND WEEKS OF WORKING WITH OUR COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE, THE TREASURER'S OFFICE, WE WERE ABLE TO, TO FIND A COMPANY CONCLUSION THAT THAT WAS NOT FEASIBLE OR PRACTICAL TO GO ABOUT TO ACTUALLY IN THAT FASHION.

SO YOU DON'T, DON'T SEE THAT IN WHAT I'M PRESENTING NOW, HOWEVER, THE ABILITY TO DO, UM, SOME KIND OF TAX RELIEF IS UP TO THE BOARD STILL AS WE DO HAVE REVENUE COMING IN THAT I'LL TELL YOU IS VERY STRONG.

I'M VERY COMFORTABLE IN TELLING YOU THIS REVENUE WILL BE THERE.

THIS IS NOT A TIME THE SKY NUMBER, THIS IS A CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.

IT IS GONNA BE THERE.

SO I WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU TONIGHT, THAT AS WE LOOK AT THE MONEY COMING INTO THE COUNTY, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 5 MILLION.

IT IS AVAILABLE TO US.

AND THE BOARD WILL ULTIMATELY MAKE THE DECISION OF WHERE THAT MONEY, HOW THAT MONEY IS ALLOCATED FOR THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS IN OUR COUNTY.

THAT ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE FOR MYSELF OR MS. CAVE.

THANK YOU MR. CARPENTER.

BOARD.

ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? NO.

I'LL ASK ONE QUESTION.

JUST TO BE CLEAR.

THIS 5 MILLION IN QUOTE ADDITIONAL REVENUE ALLS IT IS, IS JUST AN ADJUSTMENT THAT YOU'VE MADE BASED FROM WHEN YOU FIRST PRESENTED THE BUDGET TO TODAY, THE ADJUSTMENTS? THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S ALL THIS IS? THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

IT'S JUST AN, JUST A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT.

YES, SIR.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS KAREN HORN.

I LIVE AT 32 0 5 DOUBLE BROOK ROAD.

I AM A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER AND TONIGHT I SPEAK FOR MYSELF AS A BOARD MEMBER AND NOT FOR THE BOARD.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE THUS FAR.

UM, AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, BUDGET WORK STARTS LIKE YOU APPROVE THIS BUDGET AND WE'LL BE STARTING ON THE NEXT BUDGET.

SO WE KNOW THAT THAT'S HAPPENING.

AND ACTUALLY RIGHT NOW IT'S VERY SMART TO HAVE PROPOSED BUDGET ON THIS, UM, BECAUSE WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE STATE LEVEL, WE DON'T

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REALLY KNOW OUR FINAL NUMBERS YET.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE, WE MAY ALL HOPEFULLY SEE SOME MORE FUNDS IN SOME OF OUR VARIOUS, UH, NEEDED AREAS.

UM, AGAIN, THE STATE RIGHT NOW ON THE SCHOOL BOARD BUDGET, WE ARE LOOKING AT $9,000,896 AND, UH, $9,896,612.

THERE WE GO.

UM, AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE COUNTY, OUR CITIZENS PROVIDE THE GREATEST FUNDING FOR OUR SCHOOLS.

AS WE DISCUSSED IN THAT, UM, COMMITTEE MEETING TODAY WAS, UM, A GREAT DISCUSSION NOTING THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE TALENT THAT WE HAVE IN ALL THE POSITIONS IN THE COUNTY.

NOT JUST THE TEACHERS, NOT JUST THE FIREFIGHTERS, NOT JUST THE DEPUTIES, BUT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT AND KEEP OUR COUNTY RUNNING.

WE KNOW THAT THERE IS A SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THE DISCUSSION THAT BOARD MEMBERS HELD AT THAT TIME.

WE REALIZED THAT WE ARE, UM, GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK VERY, VERY HARD, UM, AT HOW WE COMPENSATE ALL OF OUR AMAZING TALENT.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THAT OPENNESS ON THAT DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE SCHOOLS.

OUR NUMBER ONE ITEM IS EDUCATION, AND WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU MRS. HORN.

MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, MY NAME IS MARK GOIN 24 76 HILL STREAM DRIVE IN OILVILLE.

DIDN'T COME WITH ANY PREPARED COMMENTS, BUT ANYWHERE I GO IN THE COUNTY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE I TALK TO UNDERSTAND THE REAL ESTATE TAX AND, AND THE DIFFERENCE IN THE ASSESSED VALUES AS THE COUNTY GROWS.

WHAT I'M HEARING, COMMENTS, NO MATTER WHERE I GO TO WHAT SOCIAL EVENT PRIVATE EVENT IS THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE TO A PERSON THAT I TALK TO, EVERYBODY FEELS THAT THE COUNTY REALLY NEEDS TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION LOWERING THAT, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH SOME SORT OF REBATE BEING IN THE, IN THE AUTOMOBILE BUSINESS.

I SEE THE VALUES OF VEHICLES ARE NOT DROPPING.

THEY HAVE RAISED, THEY HAVE KIND OF HUNG AROUND.

THEY MAY HAVE MODERATED JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT IS HITTING NOT SO MUCH THE HIGH END PEOPLE, BUT IT IS HITTING THE CITIZENS THAT HAVE THE MIDDLE RANGE VEHICLES, THE LESSER EXPENSIVE VEHICLES AT A RATE THAT IT, IT'S OF GREAT, GREAT CONCERN TO ALMOST EVERYONE I RUN INTO AT THE COUNTY, NO MATTER WHETHER IT'S AT THE FOOD LION OR WHEREVER IT MIGHT BE.

SO I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE COME TO MEETINGS AND AND SPEAK UP.

SO I FEEL LIKE I'M KIND OF SPEAKING FOR SOME OF THE MY FRIENDS AND, AND COUNTY RESIDENTS.

SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

HI.

HI, UH, ALICIA KAISER, 50 15 SHANNON HILL ROAD.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO SECOND, UH, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER.

I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A LOT OF CITIZENS AS WELL, AND THAT IS THE NUMBER ONE, THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATE IS THE NUMBER ONE, UM, ISSUE ON THEIR, I WOULD, MAYBE NOT NUMBER ONE, BUT VERY TOP OF THE LIST, UM, ON THEIR MINDS.

AND IT IS HAVING TO DO WITH VEHICLES SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY DO UNDERSTAND THE REAL ESTATE TAX, BUT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX IS SO HIGH.

SO ANY RELIEF WE CAN GIVE IN THAT AREA WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATED BY ALL OF OUR CITIZENS SPEAKING MOSTLY FOR DISTRICT ONE.

BUT, UM, ALL OF OUR CITIZENS COULD USE THAT.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU MS. KAISER.

OKAY, JONATHAN, I, 15TH, 21 MANNEQUIN ROAD.

UM, I DID HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIT IN AND PAR WELL, I ACTUALLY DID PARTICIPATE IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING, AND SO THIS IS AN ITERATION OF MY COMMENTS THERE IS THAT, UM, I BELIEVE IT IS, UM, ARTICLE 10, SECTION EIGHT OF THE VIRGINIA CONSTITUTION SAYS THAT THE STATE WILL NOT TAKE ANY MORE MONEY THAN NECESSARY WITH NECESSARY BEING THE, THE WORD THAT IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT FOR JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY.

BUT, UH, I, I WILL ITERATE AGAIN THAT, UH, I'VE NOT TALKED TO ANYBODY AS I'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH FOLKS THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, I FEEL UNDER TAXED.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M PAYING ENOUGH IN TAXES

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AND, AND TO, TO CARRY THROUGH.

I WILL COMMEND THE BOARD FOR HAVING A CONSISTENCY WITH THE REAL ESTATE RATE THAT AS MR. PETERSON HAS OBSERVED, WHEN WE HAD A DOWNTURN, WE DID NOT INCREASE THE RATE TO MAKE UP FOR THAT.

AND WHEN THINGS HAVE BEEN GOING WELL, WE'VE HAD A CONSISTENCY THAT ALLOWS FOR PLANNING AS, AS JUST AN INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER.

AS I DO MY HOME BUDGET, IT'S LIKE, WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY ASSESSMENT'S GONNA BE, BUT I KNOW MY RATE IS GOING TO BE FOR SOME TIME NOW 53 CENTS, WHICH IS APPRECIATED BECAUSE THAT IS THE LOWEST IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA AND THANK YOU FOR THAT.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO VEHICLES AND, AND I'M A USED CAR GUY, JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M SORRY MARK, I JUST BUY USED CARS.

UM, AND, UH, THAT'S JUST HOW I ROLL.

AND, AND I'VE SEEN THAT GO UP TO WHERE, UH, GOSH, THIS CAR IS AS MUCH NOW ASSESSED VALUE AS IT WOULD'VE BEEN NEW THE YEAR THAT IT WAS MANUFACTURED AND HAD AMAZING.

SO MY ENCOURAGEMENT, AS I SAID IN THE, UM, FUNNIEST COMMITTEE MEETING, THE, THE, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S DISCUSSION TOPIC REALLY RESONATED WITH ME.

AND MY ENCOURAGEMENT WAS TO SEE IF HE COULD SQUEEZE ANOTHER COUPLE PENNIES OUT OF IT AND MAKE IT AN EVEN MORE EFFICIENT SO THAT DROPPING THE PERSONAL PROPERTY WOULD, WOULD BE A GOOD THING.

MY OPINION.

THANKS.

THANK YOU MR. LYLE.

OKAY.

NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE COMING FORWARD.

I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW OUR THIRD PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING.

ALL RIGHT.

FINAL PUBLIC HEARING IS ON THE PROPOSED FEE CHANGES

[3. 5673: Ordinance amending the County Fee Schedule, Appendix C to the County]

AND THERE'S ONLY A COUPLE, UM, AS HAS BEEN DONE THE LAST FEW YEARS.

THE, UM, WATER, THE WATER VOLUME AND SEWER, OR SORRY, WATER VOLUME AND SERVICE FEES ARE GONNA INCREASE BY 3%.

UM, SEWER VOLUME AND SERVICE FEES WILL INCREASE BY 4%.

THAT IS ALL BASED ON A RATE STUDY THAT OUR UTILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS IMPLEMENTED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

UM, WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO INCREASE WATER AND SEWER CONNECTION FEES BY FIVE AND A HALF PERCENT.

UM, IN ADDITION TO UTILITY CHANGES, WE ARE LOOKING TO DECREASE THE ANNUAL ITINERANT MERCHANT PERMIT FEE FROM $150 TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

THAT'S A ONE-TIME FEE ANNUALLY.

UM, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO REMO REMOVE THE ITINERANT MERCHANT SEVEN DAY CONSECUTIVE PERMIT FEE OF $50.

I KNOW OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, AND IF SHE WANTS TO ADD ANY DETAIL ON THIS, UM, I'LL LET HER STEP IN HERE.

THANK YOU, MS. CAVE.

UM, LET ME PROVIDE THE BOARD AND THE, THE PUBLIC SOME OF THE HISTORY OF THIS.

THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE BECAME AWARE PROBABLY ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO NOW, THAT THERE WAS A SITUATION IN WHICH CRAFTSPEOPLE AND VENDORS IN THE COMMUNITY OR FROM OUTSIDE OF GLAND WERE RENTING SPACE IN RETAIL STORES TO SELL THEIR PRODUCTS.

AND THAT WAS A NEW SITUATION THAT THE COMMISSIONER HAD NOT ENCOUNTERED BEFORE.

AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNUSUAL SITUATION.

USUALLY WHEN YOU'RE IN A RETAIL STORE, THE PRODUCTS THERE ARE OWNED BY THAT STORE.

AND SO THE COMMISSIONER, UM, KNOWING THAT PERSONS WITH PRODUCTS FOR SALE IN GLAND COUNTY SHOULD HAVE A LICENSE OR PERMIT FROM HER OFFICE.

THAT'S STATE LAW, THAT'S WHAT THE BUSINESS TAX TYPICALLY IS.

SHE BELIEVED THAT THE CRAFTSPEOPLE FELL INTO THE STATE LAW CATEGORY OF ITINERANT MERCHANTS, PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE A PERMANENT PLACE FROM WHICH THEY WERE SELLING THEIR ITEMS. AND SHE LOOKED AT HER FEE SCHEDULE, WHICH AT THAT TIME WOULD'VE CHARGED A PERMIT FEE OF $150 PER YEAR.

AND SHE CONTACTED, UH, ME AT THAT TIME TO SAY, I WANT TO LOWER THE PRICE.

THESE CRAFTSPEOPLE THAT ARE JUST DOING SMALL SALES, I WANT THEM TO NOT PAY THAT MUCH.

I'D LIKE TO CREATE A NEW PERMIT, UH, SUB PERMIT FOR OF ONLY $50 FOR FOLKS WHO RENT, UM, SPACE IN A RETAIL LOCATION.

AND SO SHE INTENDED TO DO THAT, TO PROVIDE A LOWER FEE.

UM, DIDN'T GET ATTENTION FOR, UH, QUITE A WHILE, BUT WE'VE HEARD CONCERN FROM THE COMMUNITY, BOTH THE GLAND COMMUNITY AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WHO THIS IMPACTED.

AND REALLY IN RECENT WEEKS, UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT MORE DIGGING INTO THE RESEARCH, THE STATE LAWS, THE STATE REGULATIONS, UM, BENCHMARKING WITH OTHER LOCALITIES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS APPROPRIATELY.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO ULTIMATELY DETERMINE THAT STATE LAW DOES NOT CATEGORIZE THESE CRAFTSPEOPLE AS ITINERANT MERCHANTS.

UM, IN FACT, THE NUMBER ONE ITINERANT MERCHANT THESE DAYS IS A FOOD TRUCK.

UM, INSTEAD, THESE CRAFTSPEOPLE AND VENDORS WHO ARE RENTING SOME SPACE AND STORES IN THE COUNTY, UH, ACTUALLY JUST NEED A GLAND COUNTY, UM, BUSINESS LICENSE.

THEY'RE CONSIDERED RETAIL MERCHANTS UNDER THE COUNTY CODE AND STATE LAW.

AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE

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DON'T HAVE A COST FOR BUSINESS LICENSES IN GLAND COUNTY AND FOR BUSINESSES OR INDIVIDUALS WHO MAKE $10,000 OR LESS IN ANNUAL GROSS RECEIPTS, THERE'S ALSO NO TAXES PAID.

YOU SIMPLY REPORT THAT.

AND SO THAT IS WHERE THE, UM, APPROPRIATE CATEGORY FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO CRAFTSPEOPLE AND VENDORS WHO HAVE THESE SMALL SPACES.

AND SO THE APPENDIX CFE SCHEDULE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING BEFORE YOU, IT IS A COMMISSIONER'S RECOMMENDATION AND STATUS RECOMMENDATION, WHICH YOU WON'T VOTE ON UNTIL, UH, YOUR VOTE IN ON APRIL 18TH.

BUT IT IS RECOMMENDED TO YOU TO REMOVE THAT NEW $50 ITINERANT MERCHANT PERMIT FEE.

UM, BUT THE PROPOSAL IS STILL BEFORE YOU TO DECREASE AN ITINERANT MERCHANT FEE.

UH, TODAY IT WOULD BE 150, WHICH WOULD, UM, BE THE, REMAIN THE PEDDLER'S FEE, BUT DECREASE THAT TO A HUNDRED DOLLARS.

UM, AND AGAIN, THE, THE NUMBER ONE BUSINESS THAT USES THAT PERMIT IS, UH, FOOD TRUCKS THAT COME INTO THE COUNTY.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHERE THAT PROPOSAL STARTED AND WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING COME BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR VOTE ON THE 18TH.

THANK YOU MS. MCGEE.

MS. CAVE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD FOR THE FEE SCHEDULE OR, YEAH, I DO HAVE JUST ONE MORE SLIDE TALKING ABOUT THE UTILITIES RATE ADJUSTMENTS, UM, TO, TO SHOW HOW THE 3% ON WATER AND THE 4% ON SEWER WOULD AFFECT THE AVERAGE BILL PAYER.

UM, THEY RECEIVE A BIMONTHLY BILL AND THEIR TOTAL INCREASE WOULD BE JUST $4 AND 3 CENTS BIMONTHLY.

THAT'S REALLY ALL WE'VE GOT ON FEES.

THANK YOU, MS. KATE.

YEP.

ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME DURING THE FEES? SO, MS. ME, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS, THIS BECAME AN ISSUE OF, OF CLASSIFYING CERTAIN BUSINESSES.

HOW IS IT GOING TO BE, I'M GONNA USE THE WORD INCORRECTLY, BUT CODIFIED OR HOW, HOW'S IT GONNA BE NOTED SO THAT THIS IS PROTECT THESE, THESE MERCHANTS ARE PROTECTED GOING FORWARD? UM, I ORIGINALLY DID A RESEARCH MEMO TO THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE ABOUT MY FINDINGS AND, UM, THEREAFTER WITH HER PERMISSION REVISED THAT TO BECOME A HANDOUT GUIDELINE DOCUMENT THAT IS ALREADY BEEN SHARED WITH SOME VENDORS AND THE OWNERS OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE ENGAGED IN THIS AND IS AT THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE SO THAT ANYONE WHO'S ANSWERING A QUESTION FROM A CITIZEN EITHER AT THE COUNTER OR OTHERWISE, HAS THE DOCUMENT THAT EXPLAINS EXACTLY WHAT, UH, TYPE OF VENDOR IT IS, WHETHER THEY LIVE IN THE COUNTY OR NOT, AND WHO REPORTS WHAT ON THEIR TAX AT THE END OF THE DAY.

AND INCLUDES EVEN A DEFINITION OF WHO IS A PEDDLER, WHO IS AN ITINERANT MERCHANT FOR, YOU KNOW, COVERING THAT ASPECT AS WELL.

MAKING IT CLEAR IT'S NOT THESE FOLKS.

AND SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE THINKING YOUR GUIDANCE IS THAT HAVING THAT MEMO IS SUFFICIENT FOR OUR, OUR OUR LAWS OR OUR, OUR, WHAT DO YOU CALL 'EM? OUR ORDINANCES.

ORDINANCES.

THANK YOU.

THERE YOU GO.

UM, YES, BECAUSE OUR ORDINANCES, UM, AS IS TYPICAL WITH TAX, THEY'RE NOT INCORRECT.

IT'S JUST THAT THE, AND THEY FOLLOW STATE LAW, BUT THAT THEY'RE NOT INCORRECT.

THEY JUST, YOU HAVE TO DIG INTO THE REGULATIONS THAT ARE DONE AT THE ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL IN VIRGINIA AS WELL AS SOME OTHER SECTIONS, INCLUDING IN THIS CASE, UM, BUSINESS LICENSES UNDER THE STATE PROFESSIONAL, UM, BUSINESS LICENSE IN ORDER TO GET THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT CAUSED US TO UNDERSTAND, I MEAN, TAX COMMISSIONER OPINIONS AND, AND WHAT WAS AG OPINIONS TO TRY AND MAKE SURE WE GOT TO THE LEVEL OF DETAIL TO DETERMINE THAT THIS WAS THE RIGHT ANSWER, BUT OUR ORDINANCES ARE NOT INCORRECT.

THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, A GUIDELINE DOCUMENT THAT CAPTURED ALL THAT INFORMATION AND MADE IT LEGIBLE TO THE AVERAGE PERSON, UM, WAS THE RIGHT WAY TO BOTH HELP STAFF AND FOR ANYBODY WHO HAD COME IN FOR IT.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MM-HMM.

, MR. GENERAL, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

SO IF I'M RUNNING A BUSINESS IN GUC AND SAY SIX PENCE AND I HAVE VENDORS AT RENT SPACE, AM I GOING TO COLLECT THE SALES TAX AND REPORT THE SALES TAX ON ALL ITEMS SOLD? AND, AND, AND DO THESE, ARE COMMUNICATIONS CLEAR AS TO AS TO THAT'S THAT'S THE PRACTICE AND THAT'S THE EXPECTATION.

THE RETAIL SALES TAX IS ACTUALLY A STATE.

CORRECT.

AND, AND SO, BUT IF I'M IN THERE SELLING MY STUFF AND THE POINT STILL HAS TO HAPPEN AT THE POINT OF SALE.

RIGHT.

AND, AND, AND SO THE VENDOR OR THE PATIENT'S OPERATING THE PLACE, THEY, THEY REPORT, BUT THEY'RE REPORTING THAT SALES TAX DOESN'T OBLIGATE THEM ANYWAY TO TAKE CARE OF THE BEHOLD TAX? NO, WHEN, WHEN I LOOKED AT, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID REACH OUT TO MY COLLEAGUES ACROSS THE STATE FOUR WAS WHO HAS TO REPORT? CUZ THERE'S THE SALE, THE RETAIL TAX, WHICH

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GOES TO THE STATE.

AND I DO BELIEVE THE STORES ARE REPORTING THAT, THAT APPEARS TO BE ACCURATE.

BUT I ASKED MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAS TO REPORT THE GROSS RECEIPTS, IS THAT THE STORE WHICH ALSO HAS A, A BUSINESS LICENSE IN GLAND COUNTY OR THE INDIVIDUAL VENDORS? AND WHAT I LEARNED IS THERE'S NO RIGHT ANSWER.

THERE ARE SOME COMMISSIONERS THAT, UM, DO HAVE THE, DO HAVE A POSITION ABOUT WHICH WAY THEY WANT IT REPORTED, BUT THE BETTER ANSWER FOR MORE OF THE COMMISSIONERS WAS IT DOESN'T MATTER TO US WHETHER THE STORES REPORT IT OR THE VENDORS DO AS LONG AS IT IS REPORTED.

AND SO THE MEMO I'VE PREPARED, UM, THAT'S BEEN SHARED WITH THE STORES IS YOU COULD DO IT EITHER WAY.

UM, THERE'S NO RIGHT OR WRONG WAY AS LONG AS ALL SALES ARE REPORTED, GROSS RECEIPT SALES TO US EITHER BY THE STORE OR BY THE INDIVIDUAL VENDORS.

IT'S APPROPRIATE.

AND I THINK THAT THE STORES CAN MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES AS TO WHAT MAKES SENSE WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR PROVIDERS.

THEY CAN.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THEY CAN.

OKAY.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S HELPFUL THAT IF I'M BRINGING MY THINGS TO SIX PENCE, I, I, I'M A BE BEEKEEPER AND, AND I BRING HONEY AND SELL HONEY AT SIX PENCE AND I HAVE THE AGREEMENT, I KNOW THEY'RE PAYING THE SALES TAX.

I DO.

I HAVE TO GET A BUSINESS LICENSE.

YES.

BECAUSE YOU ARE SELLING THOSE PRODUCTS.

YOU HAVEN'T SOLD YOUR PRODUCTS TO THE STORE AND I HAVE TO REPORT MY SALES.

DO, DO I ONLY HAVE TO FILE A REPORT IF I'M OVER 10,000 OR DO I REPORT AND JUST SAY I'M UNDER 10,000? UM, EVERYONE WITH A BUSINESS LICENSE MAKES A REPORT OF THEIR GROSS RECEIPTS.

AND, AND IF YOU ARE UNDER 10,000, FRANKLY, EVEN IF YOU'RE OVER 10,000, THAT THAT COULD JUST BE A NUMBER ON THE TAX RETURN, UH, THAT YOU'RE REPORTING.

UM, AND AGAIN, WHETHER THE VENDOR IS REPORTING IT OR THE STORE WILL BE UP TO THEIR ARRANGEMENT.

IF YOU LIVE IN GUC COUNTY AND ARE DOING PHONE SALES CUSTOM, UH, WEBSITE SALES, YOUR OBLIGATION ON YOUR BUSINESS LICENSE IS TO REPORT THOSE SALES THAT HAPPEN OUTSIDE THE STORE.

YOU DO HAVE AN AFFIRMATIVE OBLIGATION FOR THAT.

WHETHER YOU ALSO REPORT THE SALES FROM INSIDE THE STORE, DEPENDS UPON YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT STORE.

AS LONG AS EITHER THE STORE OR THE VENDOR REPORTS IT, IT'S FINE.

UH, I THINK THIS IS THE LAST QUESTION.

DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANY ROOM THAT IS THAT $10,000? CAN WE IN, DO WE, THE STATE LAW PERMIT US TO INCREASE THAT? I KNOW LARGER COUNTIES YOU CAN HAVE, I THINK THE CITY IN HENRICO HAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND.

DO, DO WE, ARE WE CONSTRAINED OR CAN WE RAISE THAT 10,000 IF WE, IF WE SO CHOOSE, YOU HAVE THE LEGAL ABILITY TO DO IT.

SHOULD IT BE ADVERTISED APPROPRIATELY, UH, IN A FUTURE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

UH, OVER THE 10,000, I WANNA SAY THE NEXT FEE IS A FLAT $25.

AND THEN I DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER IT'S 20 OR 50,000.

I THINK IT'S 50 TO PAY THAT.

THERE'S UNDER, I'M WONDERING OUTSIDE MY LANE HERE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A, I BELIEVE THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT WHEN YOUR POPULATION CROSSES OVER A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT WE GETTING AND I THINK IT'S 25,000 OR 20, 20,000.

THE POPULATION THRESHOLD WE HAVE TO COVER IS MUCH HIGHER.

ONCE YOU CROSS THAT, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO RAISE IT TO AT LEAST 50, A HUNDRED I BELIEVE THESE DAYS.

A HUNDRED.

OKAY.

AND SO I BELIEVE WE'VE BEEN RAISING IT IN EXPECTATION OF CROSSING OVER THAT THRESHOLD AT SOME POINT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AND, UM, SO, BUT MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE PERMITTED, MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE PERMIT PERMITTED AS A SMALLER COUNTY JUST TO RAISE IT? SURE YOU ARE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THE, THERE'S THE REQUIREMENT TO RAISE IT IS ONCE YOU HIT A POPULATION, BUT THERE'S NO, THE OPTION TO RAISE IT IS, IS ALWAYS THERE BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE'VE, BY DOING THIS, WE, WE WE'RE SEEING WE'RE BEING FLEXIBLE AND THEN THE VENDOR AND THE PROVIDER CAN CHOOSE WHO DOES THE, THE BE POLE TAX.

YES.

WHO, BUT WE'VE CREATED AT A $10,000 NUMBER, WE'VE CREATED AN INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO SAY, PUT THAT ON, ON THE BEEKEEPER.

I'M MAKING HONEY, PUT IT ON ME BECAUSE I'M GONNA BE UNDER, BUT BECAUSE IF IT ALL GETS FOLDED INTO EVERYTHING THAT SIX EXPENSE IS SELLING, THEN WE'RE GONNA GET PAST THE 10 AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE A TAX.

NOW THE TAX IS NOT A LOT, UH, IN TERMS OF THAT'S CORRECT AMOUNT'S, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THE WAY WE'VE STRUCTURED IT IS WE'VE INCENTIVIZED A REPORTING ON A SMALLER BUSINESS WHERE IF WE RAISED IT TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND, WE MIGHT, OR WHATEVER WE CAN RAISE IT TO, WE MIGHT HAVE GIVEN PEOPLE TRULY MORE OF A CHOICE TO WHO DOES THE BURDEN OF, OF THE REPORTING.

OKAY.

WE, UH, NOW, NOW REMEMBER WE'RE NOT TALKING FINANCE OVER HERE, SO BE CAREFUL , BUT I AM, WE WANT TO GET, WE, WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT IN COMPLY WITH THE LAW.

YES.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS ON THE ITINERANT CHANGES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED FOR US TO CON UH, FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS EVENING, THE BUDGET IMPACT ON THAT, IF WE GET THAT LEGALLY CORRECT AND COMPLY WITH THE LAW AND WE MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, WHAT'S THE DOLLAR IMPACT ON THE BUDGET? LITTLE NONE.

OKAY.

THAT'S, THAT'S CLOSE ENOUGH.

.

I I MEAN THE, THE, THE ITINERANT MERCHANT PERMITS THAT

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ARE COLLECTED, SAY FROM UM, UM, FOOD TRUCKS IS $2,000 A YEAR.

SO WE'RE TALKING A COUPLE OF THOUSAND MAYBE ON THE, AND HERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, CRAFTSPEOPLE WHO PROBABLY, WHO MAY NOT HAVE HAD A BUSINESS LICENSE BEFORE.

BUT OUR ANTICIPATION FROM WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW IS THEY'LL ALL GET BUSINESS LICENSES, THEY'LL ALL REPORT, AND IT WILL ALL BE LESS THAN $10,000.

SO YOU'LL GET NOTHING.

AND IF THE STORES REPORT IT, I THINK THE MOST, THE, WE'VE HAD THE, ONE OF THE STORES REPORT AND ALL THE SALES, THEY'VE PAID A $75 GROSS RECEIPTS TAX.

OKAY.

OKAY.

GOOD.

I WANNA KEEP IN MIND AS WE MAKE SURE THAT WE NAIL THIS DOWN, BUTTON IT DOWN, IRON IT OUT, DO ALL THE GOOD STUFF LEGALLY, THAT WE KEEP IN MIND THE BUDGETARY IMPACT, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE IS A THOUSAND OR TWO, IF THAT.

YEAH.

AND THEN OF COURSE, BEFORE WE RAISE IT TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR 200,000 OR SOMETHING REALLY HIGH NUMBER, IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW THE BUDGETARY IMPACT ON THAT AS WELL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

DOES MISS CAVE, DO YOU KNOW THE, WHAT WE COLLECT IN B POLE TAX? CAN YOU GET YOUR FINGERS ON, ON WHAT OUR ANNUAL B POLL, BECAUSE THAT IS ONE TAX THAT WE HEAR FROM CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY EVERY YEAR.

SO TO GET RID OF IT, CUZ I THINK WASN'T IT CREATED TO FUND THE SPANISH-AMERICAN WAR OR SOMETHING AND IT JUST NEVER WENT AWAY? I THINK AFTER THE WAR ENDED IT HAS, I I DON'T WANNA PUT A NUMBER OUT.

I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, UNFORTUNATELY.

IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD, LIKE I COULD, CAN I FIND IT IF I LOOKED UP THE BUDGET ON, ON FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? I MEAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOUR FINAL VOTE, BUT MAYBE NOT FOR PUBLIC.

YEAH, YEAH.

MAYBE I'LL GET IT TO YOU.

YEAH.

THANK, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

THANKS.

SURE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ALL RIGHT, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

MISSY IS NOT GONNA CLAP.

SO WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE TONIGHT.

.

OKAY.

I I'VE WARNED HER.

I'M LISA BOWEN, I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF RIVER ROAD COTTAGE.

MY ADDRESS IS 79 DEERWOOD DRIVE GUM SPRINGING.

AND WE JUST WANT TO THANK THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE'S OFFICE, YOU GUYS, FOR WORKING WITH US.

I KNOW WE HAVE A VERY UNIQUE BUSINESS MODEL AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.

UM, BUT WE, THERE WERE SO MANY QUESTIONS AND WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW HOW APPRECIATIVE WE ARE FOR TAKING THE TIME TO GET TO KNOW WHAT OUR BUSINESSES ARE ABOUT AND WHAT THE COMMUNITY MEANS TO US, AND HOPEFULLY WHAT WE MEAN TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO, WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR FOURTH ANNIVERSARY, THIS SEP AUGUST 5TH, APRIL 15TH, EXCUSE ME.

AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO SHARE MANY MORE YEARS BECAUSE THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE.

AND WE JUST WANNA THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK AND YOUR CONSIDERATION AND JUST LISTENING TO US AND LETTING US BE HEARD.

SO THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE ON ANY COMMENTS ON THE FEES SCHEDULE? JONATHAN LAW 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD, UH, MR. LUMPKINS, IT WAS THE WAR OF 1812 .

SO, AND, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT TOPIC DOES STRIKE HOME.

AND, AND, UH, I, I'LL JUST RECOGNIZE MY LAST COMPANY, HIGHWAY INFORMATION MEDIA MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO LOCATE IN HANOVER COUNTY BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE THE BEEP POLE TAX.

AND THAT, I'M NOT GOING TO GO INTO DETAILS, BUT IT DID SAVE ME WHAT WAS, WHERE I GREW UP REAL MONEY, SIGNIFICANT MONEY ENOUGH TO MAKE ME LOCATE IN HANOVER AS OPPOSED TO GLAND.

SO IF THAT MAKES ME DISLOYAL, I, I, YOU KNOW, I JUST NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT.

SO TO THE QUESTION, WHAT IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE ON THE BUDGET? I, I'M ALSO INTERESTED IN HEARING THAT ANSWER.

UH, AND IF IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO AWAY WITH THE BEEF HOLE TAX, UH, WITHOUT UNDUE DAMAGE TO THE BUDGET, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO EXPLORE THAT.

UM, AND MAYBE NOT THIS YEAR.

WHO KNOWS, MAYBE SOMEBODY NEXT YEAR WILL DO THAT.

WHO KNOWS? WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.

BUT, UH, IT IS THE WAR OF 1812, AND IT IS A TAX THAT HAD NO SUNSET.

AND I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS ETERNITY? IT'S TWO PEOPLE IN A COUNTRY HAM OR IT'S A TAX, YOU KNOW, BUT NEITHER OF 'EM EVER SEEM TO END.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. LYLE.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? MM-HMM.

? HELLO, MY NAME IS MARCY REESE.

I LIVE AT 41 35 SHE HILL ROAD, COLUMBIA, VIRGINIA.

UM, I JUST WANT TO, UH, THANK MS. MCGEE FOR ALL THE HARD WORK WE'VE DONE.

WE'RE, UH, WE'RE HAPPY THAT THIS WAS RESOLVED IN A WAY THAT WE CAN ALL LIVE WITH AND, UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO DO

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BUSINESS IN GUC.

AND JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SAY THAT ALSO, I'M IN BOTH SHOPS, SO THIS REALLY AFFECTS ME.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU, MS. REESE.

ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT BOARD.

ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING WE'VE HEARD TODAY, DIDN'T WANT TO WRAP UP WITH? OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WITH ALL THAT, THANK YOU.

WELL, I DO WANNA THANK STAFF AND, AND THE CITIZENS THAT CAME UP TO SPEAK, UM, FOR ALL THE HARD WORK ON, ON THE SPEECH WE'VE GOT.

WE STILL GOT SOME WAYS TO GO, BUT JUST APPRECIATE THE FLEXIBILITY AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO GREAT THINGS AND SOMETIMES THAT TAKES A LITTLE BIT.

SO WE APPRECIATE, UH, MR. CARPENTER, YOU AND YOUR STAFF.

AND WITH THAT, I AM GONNA ADJOURN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, TO OUR TUESDAY, APRIL 18TH MEETING AT FOUR 30, WHICH IS, WHICH

[XVIII. Adjournment: The Board of Supervisors will adjourn as follows:]

WILL BE THE ADOPTION OF THE COUNTY BUDGET AND 6:00 PM PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UH, THE TUESDAY MAY 2ND, UH, 1230 AUDIT, FINANCE COMMITTEE MEETING, AND THE TUESDAY, MAY 2ND BOARD MEETING AT TWO AND SIX.

AND AS ALWAYS, THESE ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

I HOPE EVERYONE WILL SIGN UP FOR THE LITTER PICKUP, UH, THAT IS HAPPENING THIS MONTH.

IT'S, UH, WE GONNA, IT TAKES A, IT'D BE GREAT FOR US ALL TO HELP, UH, KEEP OUR, OUR COUNTY AS BEAUTIFUL AS IT IS.

SO THANK YOU.

AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.