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NO, I CAN FOLLOW ALONG, YES, BUT A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
HOW ARE YOU SIR? APPRECIATE PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION TO ORDER, UH, WE HAVE A FORUM.
SO, MR. CHAIR, THE INTENT IS THAT, UH, YOU AS CHAIR WOULD KICK IT OFF AND THEN WE WOULD TURN IT OVER TO TENONS FOR THEIR PRESENTATION.
SO, UH, THANK YOU, UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS EVENING.
UH, EXCITED TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE, THE PLANS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON.
GIVE YOU AN UPDATE, UH, GIVE YOU SOME IDEAS WHERE WE'RE GOING FOR THE RECORD.
I AM A SENIOR PROJECT PROJECT MANAGER WITH TIMS GROUP.
I RUN THE PLANNING AND ARCHITECTURE PRACTICE OUT OF THE CHARLOTTESVILLE OFFICE.
AND I'M PARKER, I'M IN THE RICHMOND OFFICE, AND WE HAVE QUITE A LARGE OTHER TEAM.
I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WORKING ON THIS, UH, TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS EVENING, UM, GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, WHAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING, GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR TEAM.
WE HAVE WORKING ON THIS, UH, OVERVIEW TOWARDS THE PROJECT AND HOW WE ARE APPROACHING IT.
UH, SOME OF OUR OBJECTIVE OBJECTIVES, AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE ARE, UH, TRYING TO STRUCTURE THESE PLANS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE, THE PAST DRAFTS THAT YOU HAVE.
THEN WE'LL DIVE INTO SOME SPECIFICS ON THE PORTHOUSE VILLAGE AND THE CENTERVILLE, UH, SMALLER AREA PLAN AND, UH, WHERE WE REALLY WANT GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL'S MISSION, UH, AND GET
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SOME INFORMATION THAT SAYS, UH, WHAT EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST HERE, UH, SOME THINGS THAT MAY THEM MIGHT BE MISSING OR THINGS YOU WANT US TO LOOK OUT FOR, UH, AND REALLY GIVE US SOME GUIDANCE AS WE'LL.AND THEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR TIMELINE AND, UH, NEXT STEP TO COME FORWARD WITH THAT.
UH, LOCATED IN RICHMOND, WE HAVE, UH, SOME MOBILE DISCIPLINE PRACTICE.
WE HAVE ENGINEERS, WE HAVE PLANNERS, WE HAVE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, WE HAVE, UH, TECHNOLOGY FOLKS.
WE GOT ALL, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF STAFF.
UM, AND YOU SEE ON THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE, UH, MY BACKGROUND IS IN PUBLIC SECTOR PLANNING, UH, FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS AS A PLANNING DIRECTOR.
UH, AND SEVERAL LOCALITIES IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA.
UM, ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCE AS A PRIVATE SECTOR, LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT.
UH, TAYLOR BACKGROUND, UH, IS IN, IS IN PLANNING AS WELL.
UM, WE'VE GOT LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, WE'VE GOT PLANNERS, WE'VE GOT, UH, ENGINEERS.
WE'VE GOT A VARIETY OF FOLKS THAT ARE ALL KIND OF CONTRIBUTING TO THIS, UH, TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH THE TIMELINE AND THIS, THIS PACE OF, OF DOING THIS, GETTING THIS, UH, MANNER.
SO, TALK ABOUT OUR OBJECTIVE HERE.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, UH, WE STARTED THIS, UH, BACK IN FEBRUARY.
AND SO REALLY KIND OF TRYING TO SYNTHESIZE THIS DOWN INTO, REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS UTILIZE THE EFFORTS THAT WERE DONE AND THE, THE, THE INPUT THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN, UH, AND IDEAS THAT WERE GENERATED OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS OR SO WITH YOUR PRIOR CONSULTANT.
AND THEN BUILD ON THAT, INCORPORATE SOME OF OUR OWN IDEAS, SOME ADDITIONAL, SOME FROM THIS FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY BASED ON WHAT WE'VE READ AND ALSO WHAT WE WILL HEAR FROM Y'ALL AND, UH, THE BOARD AS WELL, AND ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS.
UM, AND THE GOAL IS REALLY TO CREATE, UH, UH, A LAND USE GUIDE, UH, TO HELP LAND USE DECISIONS AS AS, AS THINGS COME FORWARD, AS DEVELOP AS YOU MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND, AND OTHER ELEMENTS, UH, HERE AT HOUSTON COUNTY.
UH, AND I'LL SAY ONE OF, ONE OF THE OVERARCHING THEMES THAT WE'VE CERTAINLY NOTICED AS WE WE READ THROUGH EVERYTHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH STAFF IS JUST THIS STRONG DESIRE TO PRESERVE FOR COMMUNITY CHARACTER HERE, UM, AND REALLY, REALLY MAKE SURE THAT, UH, FUTURE UCHIN REPRESENTS, UH, THE UNIQUE CHARACTER OF THIS AREA.
WE KICK THIS OFF IN FEBRUARY 20TH.
UH, AND THAT WAS, SO IT'S BEEN A PRETTY ACCELERATED TIMELINE ON THIS.
UH, WE DOVE INTO THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE IN MARCH.
UH, SPENT A SOME TIME DOWN HERE WALKING AROUND, TAKING PHOTOS, LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, UM, AND REALLY DOVE INTO PUTTING TOGETHER A DRAFT, UH, AFTER KIND OF COMPILING, DIVING INTO ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WAS THERE.
UM, WE HAVE, WE'RE HAVING REGULAR MEETINGS WITH STAFF.
UM, AND THEN, UH, AS SOON AS WE FINISH THAT, UH, TOWARDS THE END OF MARCH, THERE WE DO, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT VERY, WE FINISHED OUR DRAFT, AND THEN THE REST OF THAT AFTERNOON WE ARE DOWN IN CENTERVILLE, WALKING AROUND, TAKING PHOTOS, DOING THE SAME THING THERE, TRYING TO DIVE INTO THAT.
UH, AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE ARE NOW.
WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH THAT, UH, INITIAL DRAFT.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UH, COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSES TO SHARE THE PLAN AND GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
UH, AND THEN PUBLIC HEARINGS WITH Y'ALL IN, IN MAY.
AND, UH, WITH THE BOARD, JUNE.
SO I WANNA TAKE A MINUTE OR TWO JUST TO TALK ABOUT HOW, UH, HOW THESE PLANS SHOULD BE USED, AT LEAST IN OUR VISION.
WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL AS WELL AS WE GO THROUGH THIS.
AND I WILL SAY AT ANY TIME DURING THIS, THIS IS A WORK SESSION, IF YOU WANNA INTERRUPT ME, FEEL FREE TO DO SO.
IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON A LY FORMAL EXPERIENCE.
UM, I HAVE SPOTS FOR QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AS WELL THROUGHOUT HERE, BUT, UH, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO DIVE IN.
SO, WITH A SMALL AREA PLAN, UH, TYPICALLY A 10 TO 20 YEAR VISION FOR, UH, HOW, HOW YOU WANT AN AREA TO EVOLVE OVER TIME.
AND IT REALLY FOCUSES ON THE, THE BUILDING FORM, THE CHARACTER OF THAT COMMUNITY THAT YOU WANT TO CREATE, UH, AND OR PRESERVE.
AND ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA LIKE PORT COLLEGE HERE, WHERE WE WANNA HAVE A LONG PRESERVATION, UH, AND WE'LL CARRY THAT FORM FORWARD, UM, ALLOWS YOU TO IDENTIFY WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, WHERE IT'S GONNA GO, SO THAT YOU CAN PLAN EFFICIENTLY AS A LOCALITY FOR PLATFORM IMPROVEMENTS AND REALLY PACE THOSE TOGETHER.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE RELATIVE INFRASTRUCTURE AND SCHOOLS.
MAKE SURE THAT IT KEEPS PACE WITH, UH, WITH ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND THEN, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS REALLY A GUIDE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS THAT COME BEFORE Y'ALL AS A COMMISSION FOR THE BOARD HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE, THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO, TO MAKE A, A WELL INFORM DECISION.
AND THEN ONE THING I ALWAYS LIKE TO TOUCH BASE ON, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LONG RANGE PLAN, A FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT THIS, THIS IS NOT A ZONING DOCUMENT.
THIS DOES NOT CHANGE THE ZONING ON A PROPERTY DIVIDE, RIGHT? ZONING ON A PROPERTY STAYS THE SAME.
UH, THIS IS JUST A GUIDE, IT'S A VISION.
UH, IT'S A, IT'S A FUTURE LAND USE HOPE, UH, TO HELP GIVE YOU THAT GUIDANCE.
SO THAT CREATES SOME OPPORTUNITY, UH, BUT IT DOES NOT CHANGE ANY ZONING, ANY BY RIGHT, UH, ABILITY ON A PROPERTY AS IT SITS NOW.
SO ONE THING I'LL TALK ABOUT, UH, THE STRUCTURE OF OUR PLAN, UH, WE'RE GONNA APPROACH IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE, THE PAST DRAFTS THAT THE PREVIOUS SOLD DID.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT REALLY PERTAINS TO, TO, TO GKM COUNTY AS A WHOLE ABOUT DEMOGRAPHICS, ABOUT REGIONAL CONTEXT.
UH, WE WANT TO INCORPORATE THAT INTO ONE, UH, ONE INTRODUCTORY CHAPTER THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW TO USE THE PLANS AND GIVES YOU SOME ORIENTATION TO THE AREA, UH, SOME INFORMATION ON, ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS, ON ECONOMICS, EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT.
AND THEN THAT WILL TAILOR INTO TWO SEPARATE PLANS FOR THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE AND FOR CENTERVILLE
SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, REGIONAL CONTEXT.
SO I THINK ONE THING THAT WAS REALLY MISSING IN THOSE INITIAL DRAFTS THAT WE SAW WHEN WE WENT THROUGH IT WAS JUST KIND OF ORIENTING THE READER OF WHERE YOU ARE, WHERE, WHERE THESE TWO VILLAGE AREAS ARE WITHIN THE
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COUNTY, WHERE THEY ARE IN THE LARGER REGIONAL CONTEXT.SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THE MAPPING, UH, THAT, THAT WE'LL BE INCORPORATING.
AND IT JUST SHOWS, YOU KNOW, UH, THE ONE HERE ON THIS SIDE OF THE SCREEN REALLY JUST SHOWS RELATIONSHIP TO RICHMOND, UH, TO CHARLOTTESVILLE TO, TO THE MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS OF 64 RUNNING THROUGH, UH, THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.
UM, AND THEN DOWN HERE ON THE LOWER LEFT, WE HAVE, UH, A MAP THAT THAT SHOWS SIMILAR ORIENTATION AS WELL.
BUT WHAT IT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS HERE ARE MAJOR EMPLOYERS, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE CENTERVILLE AREA.
SO IT REALLY STARTS TO IDENTIFY, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENT CHARACTER, UH, TO BOTH OF THESE THAT WE WANNA APPROACH THESE WITH WAY.
UH, SO SOME, SOME OF THE, UH, PREVIOUS METHODS THAT THE, THE PAST CONSULTANT USED WAS A LOT OF TEXTS.
IT WAS A LOT VERY TEXT HEAVY, UM, REALLY HARD TO KIND OF PULL OUT TAKEAWAYS.
UH, AND, AND SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE WOULD APPROACH, UH, SHOWING THINGS LIKE DEMOGRAPHICS, UM, TALKING ABOUT POPULATION AND TALKING ABOUT MEETING AGE, HOUSEHOLD INCOME, UM, AND MUCH MORE OF AN INFOGRAPHIC APPROACH THAT'S EASIER FOR FOLKS TO DIGEST.
UH, AND IT REALLY, THE INFORMATION POPS OUT.
YOU'RE NOT SEARCHING THROUGH THE PAGE AFTER PAGE AFTER PAGE, YOU TRY AND GET THE TAKEAWAY.
UM, AND ONE OTHER ASPECT THAT I WANTED TO SHOW HERE AS, UH, THE, THE LAST PLAN USED SOMETHING CALLED THE 15 MINUTE DRIVE TIME, UM, WHICH IS A UNIQUE TERM.
UH, I WILL SAY IN MY YEARS OF DOING THIS, I HAVE NOT CROSSED PATHS WITH THAT BEFORE.
UM, WHAT WE WOULD, WOULD RECOMMEND GOING BACK TO IS CENSUS DATA CENSUS.
AND THERE'S ALSO THINGS, WELL, THE COOPER CENTER, UM, AND OTHER, OTHER, UH, DATA SIMILAR THAT, THAT SUPPLEMENTS THE YEARS IN BETWEEN CENSUSES, BUT IT'S MUCH MORE, UH, STANDARDIZED AND, AND WE CAN PULL DATA FROM THAT.
UH, THEN WE KNOW IS, IS KIND OF TRIED AND TRUE, HAS BEEN AROUND AND HAS, HAS BEEN TESTED VERSUS THE 15 MINUTE DRIVE TIME, IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHERE IS THAT COMING FROM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? 15 MINUTES CAN BE A LOT DIFFERENT FROM DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO, UH, THAT, THAT'S ONE ELEMENT THAT WE'LL BE DOING THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME, SOME, UM, CONSISTENCY.
BUT THING THAT, THAT I THINK WE, WE REALLY WANNA APPROACH THIS WITH IS, IS REALLY IDENTIFYING, UH, A CONSISTENT STRUCTURE TO THESE PLANS.
UH, THE WAY THE PREVIOUS DRAFTS READ, IT JUST KIND OF GOES AND GOES AND GOES, AND IT'S HARD TO NAVIGATE.
AND SO WE WANNA GO BACK TO TRADITIONAL CHAPTERS OF, UH, OF A LONG RANGE PLAN LIKE THIS.
SO YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE TRANSPORTATION, YOU START OUT WITH A VISION STATEMENT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO PULL AWAY FROM A LOT OF THE INPUT AND THE, AND THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK, UH, FROM THE PREVIOUS EFFORTS.
AND THEN GETTING INTO TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE AND PARKS RECOGNITION, OPEN SPACE, OUR HISTORICAL RESOURCES, UH, AND YOU WILL SEE IT'S JUST A SAMPLE DRAFT HERE.
UH, TRANSPORTATION LAND USE, UM, ARE DEFINITELY THE LARGEST SECTIONS BECAUSE THERE'S A HEAVY CONNECTION BETWEEN TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE WITH ANY LONG RANGE PLAN.
UH, WHERE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS, IS WHERE YOU WANT ANY TYPE OF GROWTH.
THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT, YOU WANNA MAXIMIZE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO, UM, REALLY TYING THOSE TWO THINGS TOGETHER.
AND THEN AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS WITHIN EACH OF THESE CHAPTERS, WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE CLEAR TAKEAWAYS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, SIMPLE BULLET POINTS, UH, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ACHIEVE, UH, IN THIS DOCUMENT, IN THIS VISION, SO THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR TO THE READER THAT THEY KNOW, UH, WHAT THE GOAL IS.
AND, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIFT THROUGH 20 PAGES TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
UH, I'M GONNA DEVELOP THIS IN MATH GRAPHICS.
AND YOU START TO SEE THAT, UH, OF REALLY, UH, REPEATING THAT ELEMENT THROUGH EACH, EACH CHAPTER SO THAT YOU HAVE THE SAME MAP REAPPEARING, AND YOU CAN QUICKLY ORIENT YOURSELF TO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, AND THEN AT THE END OF THIS, WE WANT TO REALLY HAVE RECOMMENDED NEXT STEP.
SO THIS IS REALLY SERVES AS A GUIDE AND IDENTIFIES FUTURE EFFORTS, FUTURE PLANS, FUTURE POLICIES, FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT, THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNTY PURSUE, AND THE OPPORTUNITY ITSELF.
UH, THAT WAS KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF JUST, UH, SOME OF THE INITIAL STUFF BEFORE WE DIVE INTO COURTHOUSE VILLAGE IN CENTERVILLE.
UM, AND JUST ASK THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, IS, IS THIS THIS NEW APPROACH HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE, WITH THE LAST DRAFT AND THE DIFFERENT APPROACH HERE? YES.
WITHOUT AS MUCH, SO WHAT'S THE IDEA? UH, HAS TO REALLY MAKE THIS EASY TO FOLKS TO READ, EASY TO FOLLOW, REALLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO READ A NOVEL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THIS IS.
UH, AND SO IT'S MUCH MORE GRAPHIC HEAVY, UH, MUCH MORE MATH ORIENTED.
UM, IF WE CAN CONVEY SOMETHING SIMPLER, THAT'S THE GOAL.
ONE THING THAT WE'VE TALKED WITH STAFF AND, UM, MEMBERS OF BOARD ABOUT IS THE RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS AND HOW THAT WILL BE KEY.
UM, ZONING, ORDINANCE, AMENDMENTS, OVERLAY DISTRICT, EVEN LOOKING AT, UM, A BUSINESS PLAN FOR SOMETHING LIKE CENTERVILLE, WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA AND REALLY FLESHING OUT WHAT DO YOU WANT THAT TO BE? WHAT DO YOU WANT THAT TO LOOK LIKE AND GROW INTO? SO THERE'S A LOT OF TAG ON EFFORTS THAT WE CAN HAVE AS RECOMMENDED STEPS TO REALLY LOOK AT HOW DO WE MEASURE AND BENCHMARK SUCCESS WITH THAT, WHICH I THINK WILL BE CRUCIAL.
OUR, OUR GOAL TOO IS REALLY NOT TO REHASH THIS START OVER FROM THE BEGINNING.
IT'S, I MEAN, THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF EFFORT PUT INTO THIS THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, THROUGH Y'ALL, THROUGH, THROUGH THE BOARD, THROUGH EVERYBODY.
WE WANNA MOVE, UH, AND ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WORK, UH, AND JUST TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE HEAR IT CORRECTLY.
UH, AND WE'RE REPRESENTING THAT WITH WHAT WE RECOMMEND.
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SO WE TAKE A LOOK AT COURTHOUSE VILLAGE.UM, THIS IS, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF KIND OF OUR BASE MAP.
AND YOU SEE IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES IN THE PREVIOUS PLAN.
THE GOAL HERE IS TO REALLY IDENTIFY MAJOR ROADS, UH, MAJOR, UH, LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY SO THAT FOLKS DON'T ORIENT THEMSELVES AND THE GOVERNMENT OFFICES WHERE WE ARE NOW TO, YOU KNOW, UH, THE POST OFFICE AND THE COURTHOUSE AND DIFFERENT PARKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT QUICKLY, YOU'RE EASILY ABLE TO ORIENT YOURSELF WITH DIFFERENT AREAS, HOW YOU LOOK AT THESE MAPS.
UM, SO THIS IS KIND OF A BASE MAP THAT WE'LL BUILD ON AS WE PUT LAYERS ON THROUGHOUT THIS.
UM, AND ONE THING WE DID WANT TO NOTE, UH, BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD AND LOOKING AT THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN INFRASTRUCTURE PLANS FOR THE COUNTY, UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UH, MODIFICATIONS OF THIS BOUNDARY, UH, RIGHT OVER HERE.
SO THAT, UH, WE REALLY THOUGHT THAT CAPTURING THE FRONTAGE ALONG RIVER ROAD OR ALONG, UH, JUST TO THE LEFT, UH, OF RIGHT THERE WHERE THE RIVER ROAD LABEL IS, UM, IT WAS A LOGICAL BOUNDARY RIGHT NOW.
UH, AND THEN AGAIN ALIGNS WITH, WITH THE LONG RANGE PLANS FOR TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE COUNTY, UH, AND THEN IDENTIFY THAT AS AN AREA, UH, RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
AND THEN IT COULD BE SOMETHING IN THE FUTURE TO LOOK AT, UH, IF NEEDED FOR EXPANSION THIS VILLAGE.
UM, AND YOU'LL SEE AS WE KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT WE SEE FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, IT REALLY KIND OF STARTS TO BALANCE THINGS OUT AS WELL.
IS THAT A BOUNDARY CONSISTENT BEFORE WE NOW CONSIDER COURTHOUSE VILLAGE? THE PREVIOUS CONSULTANT, UH, THE ONE THAT WE HAD DO BEFORE THAT, UH, THAT AREA IS THE, THE AREA LABEL IS ROLLING.
ENHANCEMENT AREA IS CURRENTLY IN THE, IN THE, IN THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE PLAN CURRENTLY.
SO WHAT'S PROPOSED IS JUST TO PULL IT OUT.
SO THE BOUNDARY IS COMING FURTHER, UM, BACK THIS WAY BACK EAST.
AND THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA THAT'S SHOWN IS WHAT'S IN TODAY'S COMP PLAN, CORRECT.
SO IT'S NOT THAT THESE GUYS ARE PROPOSING IT, THEY'RE LITERALLY SAYING NOT INCLUDING THAT IN THE VILLAGE.
AND SO FALL BACK TO WHAT'S THAT? ACTUALLY, THAT AREA HAS LAND USE CATEGORIES, RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL.
THEY'RE PROPOSING, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BE WRONG INSURANCE.
SO IT IS A PROPOSAL PLAN, CORRECT.
BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING IN OUR MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN OR OUR MASTER UTILITY PLANS THAT HAVE ANY PROJECTS SPELLED OUT FOR THAT AREA.
SO IT'S SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE FUTURE IF WE, UM, LOOK FOR, UM, EXPANSION PROJECTS OR AS WE GROW THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THAT AREA, BUT THERE'S NOTHING OUTLINED.
LIKE WE DON'T HAVE UTILITIES THAT GO TO THAT AREA.
UM, AND ONE OF THE CORE THINGS THAT WE FOCUSED ON FOR THE VILLAGES IN OUR SMALL AREAS WAS ENSURING THAT THERE WAS UTILITIES, UM, THAT WE HAD TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS LINED UP, OR THAT WE WERE PREPARED TO DO THAT.
SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'VE HAD.
WHEN YOU SAY UTILITIES, YOU PRIMARILY TALKING ABOUT WATER SEWER? YES, SIR.
THERE IS NO WATER IN PUBLIC WATER IF WE'RE THERE.
AND, UM, WELL WE DID, WE HAVEN'T TAKE UNDERTAKEN ANY MOBING FOR THE, FOR THOSE, THOSE PROPERTIES, UM, ON THE WESTERN.
THIS IS ALL THE WAY TO DEL ROAD IS THAT, IT'S JUST, OKAY.
SO, UH, KIND OF TO MAYBE, UH, SHARE SOME OF OUR INITIAL IDEAS AND GET, YOU KNOW, GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL.
I WANTED TO, TO JUST HIGHLIGHT THIS, THIS ISN'T A DEFINED LAND USE MATCHE, THIS JUST KIND SHOW SOME GENERAL IDEAS AND SOME OF THE STUFF WE SAW WHEN WE'RE OUT HERE AND FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING, UH, FROM, FROM DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF AND COMING THROUGH ALL THE DIFFERENT, UH, FEEDBACK AND DOCUMENTS THAT WE PRODUCED.
UM, AND I'LL JUST KINDA WALK YOU THROUGH OUR THOUGHTS, UH, WELCOME FEEDBACK AS WE GO THROUGH IT.
SO, UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, THERE'S A HISTORIC CORE AREA, JUST ENTRY FROM HERE.
UM, REALLY MORE, IN OUR OPINION, MORE OF A ONE TO TWO STORY AREA TO FIT THE CHARACTER AND THE SCALE, UM, APPROPRIATELY.
UH, AND THAT CAN BE DONE THROUGH INFIELD, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE DON'T, UH, THAT WE HONOR THAT EXISTING BUILDING FABRIC THAT'S IN THERE NOW, UH, WITHIN YOUR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE KINDA THINK IT'S A ONE TO TWO STORY HISTORIC FLOOR BUILDINGS A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE STREET, UH, IN THAT AREA.
UM, TO THE NORTH, RIGHT UP HERE, YOU HAVE MORE OF YOUR, YOUR MIXED COMMERCIAL AREA.
I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR INFO THERE WHERE THE, WHERE THE GROCERY STORE IS, AND YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF A, A COMMERCIAL STRIP, UM, MULTI TYPE APPROACH TO IT.
UH, SO YOU HAVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CHARACTER THAN YOU DO IN THE DOWNTOWN THERE.
UM, AND THEN YOU SEE WHAT KIND, UM, KIND A THEME THAT WE HAVE IS, UH, DENSITIES.
SO YOU, YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, MIXED USE CORE KIND OF THAT'S, THAT'S IN THIS AREA, UH, WITH THE HISTORIC AREA AND KIND OF THE, THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR INFILL IN THIS COMMERCIAL AREA, JUST MORE OF US.
UH, AND THEN SURROUNDING THAT WITH MORE OF A MEDIUM DENSITY
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THAN RADIATING OUT TO LESSER DENSITIES AS YOU WORK WITH THE EDGE OF THE VILLAGE.UM, AND PART OF THAT IS BASED ON WHAT'S EXISTING OUT THERE NOW AND WHERE THE OPPORTUNITIES MIGHT BE.
SO YOU KIND OF CREATE THIS CONSISTENT TRANSECT FROM MORE OF A MIXTURE SERVING POLE TO LESSER DENSITIES ON.
UM, SO YOU SEE WE'RE KIND OF SEEING SOME, SOME RESIDENTIAL AREAS OR MEDIAN DENSITY HERE, KIND OF, UH, THAT SURROUND THE VILLAGE A BIT.
UH, AND THEN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, I SHOULD RADIATE OUT TO THE EDGE, THE PERIPHERY HERE.
UH, AND THEN HERE YOU SORT OF HAVE SOME PUBLIC, UH, YOU HAVE THE JAIL DOWN THERE, AND THEN OPPORTUNITIES HERE WITH THE, WITH THE GOVERNMENT CENTER AND THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE HERE, OPPORTUNITIES FOR INCORPORATING ADDITIONAL USES THERE FOR TO, TO, TO, UH, ACTIVATE THAT SPACE AS WELL.
ONE OF THE BIG EMPHASIS, UH, THAT WE SAW THROUGHOUT THE, THE FEEDBACK AND THE PLANNING EFFORTS IS, IS A, A DESIRE TO HAVE MORE CONNECTIVITY, MORE PEDESTRIAN, UH, ACCOMMODATIONS, WALKABILITY TRAILS.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE STREAMS AND THE DIFFERENT CORRIDORS, THE RIVER, UH, TRY AND CONNECT NEIGHBORHOODS TO DIFFERENT PARTS AROUND THIS VILLAGE AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT WAS OUR INITIAL KIND OF LOOK AT SOME OF THIS, UM, NOT GETTING TOO FAR INTO THE DETAILS OF IT ALL, BUT, UH, SO I WANTED TO KIND OF JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE AND HOW ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT AS WE GO THROUGH.
CAN I ASK A SPECIFIC QUESTION? SURE.
THE TRUIT PROPERTIES, TRU, THEY EXIST INSIDE THE VILLAGE CONCEPT OR YES, THEY DO.
IT'S A MEDIUM DENSITY ON THE WRITTEN IS THE THING.
NORTHEASTERN WALKER, THANK YOU.
AND WITH THIS, THIS LINE HERE REALLY KIND OF FOLLOWS, UH, UH, PLANNED ROAD THAT'S BEEN IN THE COMP PLANT FOR QUITE A WHILE IN THAT GENERAL AREA, UM, IS NOT EXACTLY IDENTIFIED WHERE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGED.
THAT'S A GOOD DIVIDE, UH, AS, AS A ROAD KIND TRANSITION INTO A LOWER DENSITY YOU GET OUTSIDE OF THAT.
UM, SO WITH THAT, WE WANTED TO, TO JUST REALLY POSE SOME QUESTIONS TO Y'ALL.
UH, BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE WORKING THE BLAST CONSULTANT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE, THAT YOU READ THROUGH, UH, WERE THERE KEY ELEMENTS OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, UH, PLAN THAT THEY HAD DRAFTED THAT WERE MISSING THAT YOU WANT US TO MAKE SURE WE, WE ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, WE FIND A WAY TO INCORPORATE INTO OUR PLAN.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT THESE PLANS HELP Y'ALL AS A PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, AS A GUIDE FOR FUTURE LAND USE DECISIONS TO COME BEFORE YOU, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE MOST USEFUL INFORMATION TO HAVE IN HERE? I'LL PAUSE THERE AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME FEEDBACK FROM YOU.
DIDN'T INDICATE ANY, LIKE MULTI-FAMILY PROJECTS OR CONDOS LIKE THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR, WE DID NOT, NOT IN THIS.
I MEAN, WE'LL GET INTO SOME OF WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS WOULD GO IN THE DIFFERENT ZONES THAT WE CREATE, UH, THE LANGUAGE CATEGORIES.
UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T AT THIS, AT THIS STAGE YET.
THE EXCUSE AREA MEAN WAS SINGLE FAMILY AND WHAT WAS MEDIUM DENSITY.
THAT WOULD BE WHERE THE PRICE RANGE WOULD BE IN THE THREE HUNDREDS.
I WOULDN'T KNOW PRICE RANGE EXACTLY, BUT, BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT, SO WHAT WE WILL DO REALLY IS THE GOAL THAT I, I, I WOULD RECOMMEND IS FOCUSING ON DEVELOPMENT FORM.
AND SO YOUR SINGLE FAMILY IS, IS YOUR LARGER LOTS, YOUR MEDIUM DENSITY IS WHERE YOU MIGHT GET SMALL, SMALL, LITTLE SMALLER LOTS OR MAYBE EVEN OPPORTUNITY FOR A TOWN HOME OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THERE.
UM, AND THEN, AND THEN MORE OF YOUR, UH, YOU SAID MULTIFAMILY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, OR MIXED USE BUILDING WOULD BE THAT MIXED USE AREA OR THAT MIXED USE COMMERCIAL AREA WHERE YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET SOMETHING LOCAL, LARGER SCALE.
I, I THOUGHT IN THE, ONE OF THE PREVIOUS PAGES WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE WAS SOME, UM, AVERAGE HOME PRICES, UM, IN THE THREES, WHICH, AND SO THAT'S JUST BASED OFF OF, OF CENSUS DATA.
UM, UP THE AREA UP, UP, UP UNTIL THE LAST CENSUS THAT WAS COUNTED IN 2020.
CHUCK, CAN YOU GO BACK A SLIDE JUST SO WE HAVE THE LAND USE MAP UP WHILE WE COME THROUGH THAT? YEP.
SO CAN YOU ELABORATE MORE ON THE FORM PIECE AND KIND OF THE REGULATING PRINCIPLES? SURE.
UH, SO, SO SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU'LL SEE, UH, THAT WE'RE WORKING ON TALKS ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS TO THE ROAD OR BUILDING HEIGHTS, UM, IS REALLY, I, I THINK HOW YOU WANT TO REGULATE FORM, ESPECIALLY IN A MIXED USE AREA.
UM, AS I MENTIONED KIND OF IN THIS, IN THIS HISTORIC CORE AREA, I THINK YOU REALLY WANNA TRY AND BRING BUILDINGS A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE STREET.
UM, THAT WAY YOU HAVE THAT STOREFRONT WALKABILITY MM-HMM.
UH, THEN YOU JUST HAVE THOSE LARGE GAPS.
UM, WHEREAS IN YOUR MIXED, UH, COMMERCIAL AREAS HERE, I THINK YOU HAVE SOME, SOME YOU DO HAVE, HAVE VACANT PARCEL THAT'S KIND OF THE CORNER OF THE GROCERY STORE AREA.
THERE, YOU HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL USES HOPEFULLY TO GO IN THERE.
UH, MAYBE THAT COULD BE YOUR RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED USE BUILDING LIKE THAT, THAT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF A LARGER SCALE, UH, SET BACK A LITTLE FURTHER FROM THE ROAD.
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MEDIUM DENSITY, AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S MORE OF YOUR SMALL LOTS, UM, OR DEVELOPMENTS THAT MIGHT HAVE SHARED COMMON SPACES.
UH, AND THEN I THINK YOU WANT TO KIND OF PUT THAT TRANSITION AS YOU'RE GOING FROM THERE ON OUT TO YOUR
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LARGER LOTS, UH, THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE HERE.I BELIEVE THE CURRENT PLAN CALLS FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ONE TO TWO ACRE LOTS IN THERE, THE DRAFT THAT WAS DONE, UM, AND THAT IT IS A GOOD TRANSITION OUT HERE.
WE THERE BEYOND THAT WAS RE MARSH IN THAT MEDIUM DENSITY.
AND SO THAT WAS GUIDING A LOT OF OUR GOES ALL THE, THAT ROAD, THE ROAD THAT COMES THROUGH WAS CONNECTED REED MARSH TO RURAL HILL.
THAT ROAD IS NOT THAT, YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT REALLY THERE, BUT IT'S SOME SOME OF IT IS THERE.
AND WE'VE STARTED MAPPING THAT IN THERE.
UH, WE'VE GOT THE PLANS FOR IT, EVEN IF IT'S BUILDING, TRYING TO ADD THAT IN THERE TO OUR FUTURE MAPS.
SO RURAL HILL TO THE LEFT, TO THE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL TO THE LEFT OF THE MEDIAN DENSITY.
YEAH, I THINK IT'S RIGHT, RIGHT OVER HERE, RIGHT.
SO THE FRONT PART OF RURAL HILL WOULD BE IN THE MEDIAN DENSITY, RIGHT? AND BACK WHERE WE TRANSITION, THERE'S NO SEWER.
SO THERE GET SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN THE ROAD CONNECTIONS WE'RE APART FROM RURAL HILL.
AND IT GOES OVER TO BASICALLY WHERE THE BOUN ALMOST TO THE BOUNDARY OF THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OF THE ROAD RIGHT NOW.
AND MAYBE THAT'S A, UH, THAT'S THE, UM, OUR PREVIOUS, UM, THE EXISTING PLANE RATHER SHOWS THE THIRD, UH, ROADS, CONNECTIONS THROUGH THE AIR.
THAT'S HOW WE'RE GONNA SORT OF GIVE ALTERNATIVE ACCESS UP AND HERE BY UP ON RIVER, WE'D RATHER HAVE SOME
AND I'LL SAY THAT'S ONE, ONE SMALL DIFFERENCE THAT I THINK YOU'LL SEE WITH OUR PLANT.
I MEAN, IF A ROAD IS BUILT OR IT'S BEEN APPROVED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, THEN I THINK WE CAN SHOW IT.
BUT, UH, I WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM SHOWING REALLY HYPOTHETICAL SUBDIVISION LAYOUTS OR NEIGHBOR LAYOUTS JUST BECAUSE IT'S CONFUSING TO THE READER.
IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THAT WAY, AND WE HAVE NO IDEA REALLY.
UM, SO WE'RE MORE TALKING ABOUT THE FORM, THE, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES THAT, HOW DO THOSE HOMES SIT ON THE PROPERTY REALLY? UM, SOME LARGE SETBACKS OR ARE THEY A LITTLE TIGHTER TOGETHER? UM, AND WHAT DOES THE IDEA OF THAT KIND OF URBAN TRANSECT, AS I MENTIONED, WHERE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSE AS YOU COME IN, REALLY KIND OF CREATES THAT, THAT FEELING OF ARRIVAL IN THE DOWNTOWN.
THAT NEW OPPORTUNITY IS WHERE YOUR RENTALS IS, WHERE A REYNOLDS IS.
UM, SO RIGHT AROUND THIS AREA IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO ARE WE AWARE, THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POTENTIAL INFILL, UH, ADDITIONAL USES ON THAT CAMPUS PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY.
SO I GONNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND MAKE SURE, UH, WE CAVE WAY FOR THAT HAPPEN FUTURE.
SO I MIGHT GO BACK TO SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS JUST TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, UM, WERE THERE MAJOR THINGS THAT WERE MISSING OUT OF THE WORK, YOU KNOW, THE WORK THAT WAS DONE THAT YOU FEEL LIKE WEREN'T HEARD FROM THE PREVIOUS CONSULTANT THAT WE HEAR, I GUESS, UM, OR FEEL LIKE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT, THE RIGHT DIRECTION AHEAD.
AND THEN AS A PLANNING COMMISSION THAT DEALS WITH REZONINGS AND DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS REGULARLY, IS THERE, ARE THERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT WOULD BE MOST HELPFUL TO AT THIS? I THINK BEING ABLE TO SEE THE ROADS MORE CLEARLY IN, IN THE PREVIOUSLY JUST YEP.
SEEING THE ROADS ON THE INTERFACE AND THEN HOW THAT TRANSITIONS INTO SIDEWALK OTHER FORM TRANSPORTATION.
TRAIL MAP, IF YOU WILL, SIDEWALK ROAD.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IDENTIFY EVEN DIFFERENT TRAIL TYPES, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, PAVE PATHS THAT GO ALONG ROADWAYS, YOU HAVE MORE OF YOUR PRIMITIVE PATH THAT, UH, IS IN YOUR WOODY TRAIL ALONG A STREAM BUFFER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU HAVE YOUR BOARDWALK SOME MORE SENSITIVE AREAS.
IT'S STARTING TO IDENTIFY WHERE THOSE, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT CAN, HOW TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS YOU MOVE FORWARD.
SO THEN WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT COMES FORWARD, YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, PULL FROM THIS ONE OR PULL FROM THIS ONE, YOU KIND OF HAVE THAT ROAD MAP TO SUCCESS THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU GET THE SYSTEM TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER THING WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, GREAT, GREAT SUGGESTION BY STAFF WAS TO THINK, START TO IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENT FORMS. SO IF YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A LARGE SCALE SINGLE FAMILY HOME LOT, AND WHAT ZONE DOES THAT GO IN, IF YOU HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, A CLUSTER HOME OR A QUARTER AC LOT, WHERE DOES THAT GO? IF YOU HAVE A TOWNHOUSE, WHERE DOES THAT GO? IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH, SO WE'RE KINDA IDENTIFYING THE DIFFERENT RESIDENTIAL TYPES AS WELL, AND, AND WHICH ZONES DOES, MIGHT INVEST AND HOW THEY RELATE TO YOUR ZONING AS WELL.
WELL, I THINK YOU WERE LITTLE IN THE MAP, BUT MEDIUM DENSITY WOULD CONSIDER DIFFERENT TYPES OF FAMILY HOMES.
I THINK THAT'S THE MOST APPROPRIATE AREA WHERE YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN A CLOSE PROXIMITY WALKING AREA TO, TO THOSE KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, NEW CENTERS, UH, COMMERCIAL CENTERS AND THE, THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN SENSE.
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DIVE INTO CENTERVILLE.THIS IS JUST OUR BASE MAP, AGAIN, REALLY TRYING TO IDENTIFY THE MAJOR CORRIDORS, UM, 64, UH, BROAD STREET DOWN THE CENTER.
UM, AGAIN, SOME NOT, UH, THIS HAS SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO GREEN WASTE, THINGS LIKE THAT WITH THE EXISTING STREAMS THAT RUN THROUGH THE DIFFERENT AREAS HERE.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE ALREADY THERE, AND SO THIS PLANT IS A LITTLE MORE ROBUST.
UM, AND, AND SOME, SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES HERE.
UH, SMALL, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FOCUS.
CAN YOU, UH, IDENTIFY A LITTLE CLOSER THE BORDERS ON THE, ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY THERE? SO THE BOTTOM, THE ROADS ARE DOWN HERE.
WHAT IS EXACTLY IS THAT? SO THIS IS H ROAD.
DOWN HERE I MIGHT, HOW FAR DOES THAT COME DOWN? TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO THE BOUNDARY HAS NOT CHANGED, RIGHT? YEAH.
WE CHANGE CENTER MILL, UM, BOUNDARIES.
ONE THING WE ARE DOING NOW IS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT, UH, THIS AREA DOWN HERE SHOULD REALLY BE MAYBE A FUTURE STUDY AREA, UH, BASED ON SOME ACTIVITY AND SOME INTEREST THAT Y'ALL HAD THERE, UH, TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS, AS, UH, ANALYSIS OF THE FUTURE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO REALLY IDENTIFY WHAT'S THERE NOW, UM, BUILD ON THAT, UH, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE PLANNING THAT'S BEEN DONE HERE, UH, WITH THE COUNTY AND, AND, AND DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY PROPOSED OR IMPROVED.
UH, AND TRY TO WORK AROUND THAT HERE.
UH, INCORPORATE THAT INTO DIVISION.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A ONE THING I'LL SAY HERE.
SO YOU HAVE GARAGE STREET, THAT, THAT OBVIOUSLY BICEPS THIS, IT'S A MAJOR CORRIDOR, UM, LOT OF TRAFFIC.
IT'S, IT DOES BISECT THE AREA.
IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO CONNECT BOTH SIDES OF THAT.
UM, BUT THEY, BOTH, BOTH SIDES DO HAVE A COMMERCIAL FIELD, SO WE WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, BUT ALSO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UM, AND SO, UH, WE'RE CALLING HERE KIND OF THIS MIXED USE CORE FILLS THIS WHOLE AREA AND THE CENTER THERE IS WHERE YOU HAVE, UH, THE EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER AND KIND RADIATE FROM THERE.
AND MAYBE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO APPROPRIATE SOME ADDITIONAL USES TO SUPPORT THAT, THAT COMMERCIAL THERE.
UM, AND REALLY KIND OF CREATE THAT CENTRAL, UM, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
THAT'S WHY WE CALL THE TRANSITIONAL MIXED USE BECAUSE WE WANT TO WANNA REALLY HONOR THAT TRANSITION TO A LOT OF THE RESIDENTIAL THAT'S TO THE SOUTH OF IT.
UH, AND SO THAT YOU START TO THINK ABOUT AS YOU WORK BACK FROM BROAD STREET, UH, THIS TRANSITION COMPONENT TO A MEDIUM DENSITY AND THEN TO A SINGLE FAMILY DENSITY, UH, A LITTLE, A LITTLE LOWER, UM, AND REALLY MEDIUM DENSITY.
A LOT OF IT IS DUE TO DENSITY THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S ALREADY APPLIED, IT ALREADY KIND OF FITS THAT CHARACTER.
UM, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE'S SOME, SOME, SOME OPPORTUNITIES AT THE INTERCHANGES, UH, FOR YOUR, YOUR KIND OF COMMERCIAL AND MIXED USE AREAS AS WELL THERE FOR A LITTLE MORE INTENSITY, UH, THAN INTERCHANGES AND, AND CAPITALIZE ON THAT PROFIT'S ALREADY THERE AS WELL.
SO ONE WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT.
AND, AND THEN AS WELL AS THE COUNTY'S PLANS, UH, FOR IMPROVING THIS CORRIDOR RIGHT HERE.
THEN THERE'S SOME LARGE PARCELS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT THE COUNTY'S, UH, ACKNOWLEDGED OVER THE YEARS.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE, WE, WE, UH, HONOR THAT, UH, AS WELL AND CREATE THAT OPPORTUNITY THERE.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF A NICE TRANSITION, UM, AS YOU WORK FROM THIS HIGHER INTENSITY OVER TO A SINGLE FAMILY WITH THE MEDIUM DENSITY BETWEEN AND THEN ALSO FEED INTO PEACH USE FOUR.
UM, SO IN THIS ONE, UH, AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A GREAT EMPHASIS AGAIN ON, ON CONNECTIVITY, UH, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
UH, I THINK YOU HAVE SOME NEAT OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE EXISTING STREAMS THAT ARE THERE TO CONNECT NEIGHBORHOODS INTO THIS KIND OF, UH, CENTRAL CORE, UH, MAYBE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, SOME PUBLIC SPACES IN THAT EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER.
SOMETHING TO KIND OF CREATE A, UM, A COMMUNITY, UH, CENTER TYPE DEAL TOO AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT IS, IS REALLY WHERE WE ARE ON THIS ONE AS WELL.
UM, UH, CAN I HAVE SIMILAR QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? YOU KNOW, UH, IF THERE WERE THINGS THAT WERE, MAY BE MISSING FROM THE PREVIOUS EFFORTS, UH, THAT YOU WANNA MAKE SURE WE, UM, FOCUS ON WITH THIS ONE, UH, AS WELL AS THINGS WILL HELP, UH, Y'ALL DECISION MAKING IN THE, IN THE FUTURE IN THIS AREA.
SO GO THAT, THAT HAVE, UM,
AND, UM, THE COUNTY WILL BE ADMINISTERING THAT DIRECTIVE, RIGHT? SO I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE THE KEY THING.
THAT'S BE NICE FEATURE OF THE COUNTY ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO PATTERSON, TUCK OAK CREEK WITH THE CURRENT FUNDING, THE FULL CONNECTIVITY, UH, WILL BE CHALLENGED.
UM, AS, AS YOU KNOW, WE DID RETURN A GOOD PORTION OF THE FUNDING TO VDOT DUE TO CONDITIONS, UM, THAT WERE IMPOSED BASED ON THE, UH, ADMINISTRATION REQUIREMENTS THAT VDOT HAS.
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SO I THINK THAT'S WHY THE ALIGNMENT SELECTION IS KEY IN TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, ARE YOU CONNECTING HARDYWOOD TO THE NEAREST DEVELOPMENT? AND WE CAN ALWAYS ADD ON IN FUTURE PHASES, RIGHT? SO MORE THAN LIKELY IT WILL BECOME A PHASED PROJECT RATHER THAN AN ALL IN, UM, FULL CONNECTIVITY.IF WE COULD SHOW THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BENEFIT.
WE REALLY ARE TO SHOW REALLY TRYING TO GET, UM, A PIECE OF A BUILD NOW SO WE BUILD SO WE CAN CREATE SOME INERTIA, RIGHT? WE, IT'S BEEN A CHALLENGE IDENTIFYING FUNDING, CREATE THAT INERTIA, GET THIS FIRST SEGMENT DONE.
YEAH, WE CAN CREATE SOME INERTIA.
JUST ONE OF THINGS WE'RE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT JUST THE OTHER DAY AS TO, WE NOTICED THAT THERE ISN'T REALLY A, A PUBLIC PARK HERE, UH, IT ALL, WHEREAS THERE IS SOME BOAT PARKS, UH, HERE IN PORTHOUSE.
SO, UH, AS THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, UM, THIS BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE INTENSIVE, UH, I CERTAINLY WANT TO MAKE SURE WE IDENTIFY THIS OPPORTUNITY SO THAT, UH, MAYBE COMES FORWARD AND YOU SEE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, UTILIZING FLOOD PLAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I CAN SEE THE TRAIL BEING READY FOR COUNTY, THOSE THAT ARE PATRONIZING, DEFINITELY OTHER PLACES YOU CONSIDER PROJECT WE DID.
UM, AND SO THAT, THAT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE GENERAL SHAPES OF THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND WE'RE DRAWING BOUNDARIES SO THAT, UH, MAYBE WE CAN USE THOSE AS CATALYST TO, TO MORE FORM LIKE THAT IF IT'S DESIRABLE.
UM, SOME AREAS HAVE AN EXISTING DEVELOPMENT MAYBE THAT DOESN'T FIT PERFECTLY AND WE JUST KIND OF NEED TO WORK AROUND THAT, UM, FOR CONSISTENCY.
BUT, UH, YEAH, WE'RE CERTAINLY TRYING TO BUILD ON WHAT ONE OF THE BIG THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE WERE OUT THERE, UH, WALKING AROUND THE SHOPPING CENTER IN THAT NEXT USE FLOOR AREA, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE, WE ACTIVATE INTERNALLY A LITTLE BIT.
UM, SO IT'S LESS OF JUST A DESTINATION FOR A CAR AND MAYBE WANT CREATE SOME, UH, PEDESTRIAN ACCESS INTERNALLY AS WELL.
AND SOME KIND OF, AS WE MENTIONED, A, A SMALL PLAZA FEATURE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY GUYS DEVELOP AS IT CONTINUES TO FILL IN.
UM, SO THAT MAYBE WE CREATE A LITTLE MORE THAN JUST A SHOPPING CENTER TYPE FILTER.
AND I THINK THERE'S SOME, SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR STREET SCAPE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL ON BROAD STREET TO TRY AND, UH, MAKE THAT A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE.
UH, JUST THE VOLUME TRAFFIC ON, IT'S, IT'S A LOT.
SO TRYING TO KINDA, AND I THINK IT ALSO CREATES SOME OPPORTUNITY TO INCORPORATE SOME OF THE, UH, ELEMENTS, SO TO REFLECT THE COMMUNITY CHARACTERS THERE AS WELL WITH WHAT YOU MIGHT INCORPORATE FROM PERSPECTIVE.
WOULD YOU RECOMMEND SLOWER SPEEDS ON BROAD STREET? I, I MEAN, I, I THINK IT, LIKE I SAID, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
UM, IT'S LANES TRAFFIC, IT'S FOUR LANES, BUT I DO THINK YOU CAN SEPARATE THE SIDEWALK FROM THE STREET A LITTLE BIT AS TO S COME IN AND CREATE THAT BUFFER, THE STREET TREES IN BETWEEN MAYBE SOME IDEAS FOR FENCING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO, TO KIND OF CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PASSAL FEEL.
UH, YOU HAVE SOME OPENINGS, WE PRESERVE SOME VIEW, SHES, THAT'D BE NICE.
UM, JUST TO MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE TO WALK ALONG.
AND THEN I KNOW LIKE A LOT OF THE STORES FRONT ON THAT, IT MIGHT BE GREAT IF YOU COULD ALSO GET A REAR FRONTAGE INTO THE PARKING LOT, UH, SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF ACTIVATE BOTH SIDES.
YOU HAVE SOME THREE RIBS THERE THAT RUN EITHER WAY.
UH, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS RIGHT NOW, SO IT'D BE GREAT TO TRY AND GET SOME SIDEWALKS ON THERE SO THEN YOU CAN KIND OF WALK THERE.
YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE TO WALK ALONG BROAD STREET IF YOU WANNA WALK FROM RESTAURANTS, RESTAURANT OR SHOP TO SHOP, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE'S NOT MUCH AVAILABILITY OF WALKING SIDEWALK SO CLOSE.
YEAH, WE WALKED AROUND, WALK IN.
SO THAT'S, THAT WAS A BIG FOCUS OF US IS HOW CAN WE KIND OF EXPECT TO CREATE THAT SENSE OF, OF PLACE THERE WITH THAT.
UM, SO IT'S NOT JUST GETTING YOUR CAR DRIVE.
UM, I WAS GONNA SAY IF, IF WE HAVE THE SIDEWALK THERE, ESPECIALLY IN PARTICULAR IN THE EASTERN SIDE ON THE, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 2 88, THEY'RE RIGHT UP IN TRAFFIC AND IT IS JUST THAT'S, YOU WOULD WANT WALK THAT TO, TO GO TO ANOTHER PLACES.
THOSE ARE ONES FOR ABSOLUTE NECESSITY THAT YOU'RE GONNA BLOCK IT.
OTHERWISE IT'S, IT'S VERY UNCOMFORTABLE TO BE THAT CLOSE TO TRAFFIC.
SO THEN THAT'S GONNA BE AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
THEN I'LL SAY WAYS THAT WE CAN CROSS THE BROAD.
SO IS THAT BOTTOM LINE ON CREEK PARKWAY? SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE BLUE THING IS WHERE? STUDY HERE? UM, TALKING RIGHT DOWN HERE.
WELL IT'S A LITTLE NORTH OF, YEAH.
UM, THERE, THAT ACTUALLY IS THE AREA.
UM, SO WHEATS THAT, UM, WHEAT'S BRANCH IS THE RIGHT BOTTOM OF THE MEDIUM DENSITY AND THAT GILMAN PROPERTY WE DID LAST YEAR.
UM, SO WHAT BELOW THAT IS PART OF WEST CREEK CURRENTLY.
I THINK IT'D BE GOOD TO SHOW SOME OF THE EXISTING, MAYBE NOT ON THIS MAP,
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BUT YEAH.THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENTS AND THEN PROPOSED YEP.
ONE THERE THAT CAN BE A LITTLE, UM, SOME SORT OF A, A MIXED MESSAGE BECAUSE THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A VISION THAT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, TAKE IT OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS THAT ISN'T LIMITED BY WHAT'S THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY TAKE IT INTO ACCOUNT.
AND THEN IT SEEMS TO PEOPLE LIKE IT'S MORE OF A ZONING, OH, YOU'RE SHOWING ME THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S THERE THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE A ZONING DOCUMENT.
SO THERE, THERE'S A REASON WHY IT'S, WHILE LOOSELY FOLLOWING SOME THINGS THAT ARE THERE, IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY SHOW, UH, DEVELOPMENTS.
BUT I THINK WHEN THE, THE MAP THAT'S IN WITH THE, WITH THE STREETS LABELED AND SO FORTH, IT'S EASIER TO FOLLOW ALONG.
SO YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THIS AND, AND SO WE'LL HAVE THINGS OVERLAID ON THESE FOR GREENWAYS OR FOR ROADS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, IDENTIFYING WHICH ROADS ARE, YOU KNOW, ARTERIALS OR COLLECTORS OR LOCAL ROADS AND KIND OF STARTING TO, SO WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THIS LAYERING TAKE PLACE ON TOP OF THIS MAP, WHICH SHOULD HOPEFULLY READ, UH, PRETTY WELL.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE GOTTA BRING THAT ALL TOGETHER WITH THE FUTURE LADIES MAP KIND MELD IN WITH THE TWO.
AND THAT'S KINDA HOW, AND THOSE THINGS SHOULD ALL INFORM THAT FUTURE LAND.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE SPATIALLY WHERE, YOU KNOW EXACTLY NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, ROADS ARE.
AND SO MAYBE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, THAT I REALLY STRUGGLED WITH WITH THE, THE PREVIOUS CONSULTANTS' PLANS.
IT DIDN'T REALLY TAKE YOU ON THAT JOURNEY OF THAT THOUGHT PROCESS OF HOW, HOW THEY ARRIVE AT, UH, THE FUTURE LAND USE MAP OF OVERLAYING THE DIFFERENT STUDY AREAS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IN DIFFERENT TOPICS TO THEN INFORM A LAND USE DECISION.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THIS REALLY REVOLVES AROUND TRANSPORTATION.
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG KEY.
TRANSPORTATION LAND USE, UH, IS CRITICAL TO HOW THIS WORKS.
UM, SO YOU CAN EVEN KIND OF SEE, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S SOME, SOME GREAT BACKBONES HERE, UH, SOME STREAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT JUST RUNNING RIGHT THROUGH AS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE ONE RUNNING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS HERE, UM, THAT PROVIDE SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION AS WELL AND RECREATION.
SO, UM, YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE HAD TONIGHT.
UM, I WANTED TO KIND OF TOUCH BASE ON OUR TIMELINE AS WELL.
SO JUST KIND OF REITERATE WITH THAT WHERE WE ARE.
SO WE ARE UH, STARTED IN FEBRUARY, HAD OUR KICKOFF.
UH, WE HAD SOME, SOME BOARD MEMBERS IN MARCH STARTED WORKING ON THE COURTHOUSE DEALER PLAN.
UM, NOW WE'RE INTO THE THICK OF THE, THE CENTERVILLE, UH, AND YOU NOTICE I'M CALLING IT THE CENTERVILLE SMALL AREA PLAN.
UM, I DO THINK THEY'RE DIFFERENT.
UH, COURTHOUSE IS MORE OF A VILLAGE CENTERVILLE, YOU GOT TWO MAJOR INTERCHANGES THERE.
IT'S MORE OF A SMALL AREA PLAN IN MY MIND.
UM, AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT OUT THERE.
SO IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THAN A VILLAGE.
UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE'LL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS WITH BOARD MEMBERS, UH, A LITTLE BIT LATER THIS MONTH.
AND THEN, UH, COMING BACK IN MAY WE'LL HAVE OPEN HOUSES WITH THE COMMUNITY ONE FOR EACH PLAN.
UM, THE WAY WE, WE REALLY UH, ALLOW PEOPLE TO DIGEST IT SEPARATELY.
UM, AND THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN D AREAS COME OUT AND SPEAK WITH US, UH, READ THE PLANS, GIVE US FEEDBACK AND WE'LL COME BACK TO Y'ALL FOR UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THEN THE MORE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS AS WELL.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN, WE CAN GET OUR PATH THROUGH ADOPTED.
HAS THE COUNTY HAD REQUESTS FOR A PARK IN THE SURNAME OF THE COUNTY? THERE'S, IT'S ONE OF THE TOP ON THE, YES.
THE COMMUNITY SURVEY SURVEYS WE DID.
IF IT'S BASE PARK PARKS ACCESS THE SERVICES COMMUNITY SPACES, UM, YES.
AND I GUESS I'M NOT SURE IF LIBRARY THIS SPECIFIC AREA WOULD BE THE BEST PLACE.
IT'S FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
MAYBE JUST OUTSIDE OF THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE A PARK THAT WOULD BE IN THAT SAME MISSION.
AND WE'RE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES AND SPACES OF WHERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD FIT AND IT WOULD NOT TAKE AWAY FROM THAT PRIME SPACE.
IT'S, IT'S INTERRELATED CUZ YOU, YOU KNOW, THE ONE CRISIS PLACE FOR BUSINESS CAN COME, SOMETIMES IT'S PUBLIC SPACES CONTRIBUTE TO THAT, RIGHT.
AND THOSE TOP TIER EMPLOYERS WANT AMENITIES AND SO YEAH, ALL KIND OF INTERPLAYS HAVE TO FIGURE OUT UM, HOW TO WORK.
YEAH, I THINK BY ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IN THESE DOCUMENTS, UM, EVEN IF IT'S NOT AN EXACT LOCATION, WE DON'T HAVE IT ALL PLANNED OUT BY ACKNOWLEDGING THE NEED FOR IT AND HAVING THAT ADOPTED, UH, BY THE COUNTY, THEN WHEN DEVELOPMENTS OR OPPORTUNITIES COME, YOU HAVE THAT FALLBACK ON AS UH, SOMETHING THAT VISION DESIRE IN PARTICULAR HAVE A VILLAGE TYPE THAT OR THE SORT OF THE MIXED USE TYPE OF SETTING.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU CAN HAVE PUBLIC SPACE THAT
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COMES ALONG WITH THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.SO IT FEELS LIKE IT'S PART OF IT.
UM, SOME OF IT COULD BE TRUE PUBLIC AS IN, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT GOES TO THE COUNTY OR A LOT OF IT'S PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT CAN PROVIDE US HEAVYING SPACES AND THE LACK WITH THEM THAT DRAWS THE CUSTOMERS AND DRAWS THE CITIZENS TO MOVE THERE.
SO I THINK CENTERVILLE'S REALLY PRIMED FOR THAT.
UM, BUT THERE IS SO MUCH, UH, I WOULD SAY BUT AND GREEN SPACE THAT'S, THAT HAS OPPORTUNITY.
THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT? THAT WE COULD PROBABLY LOOK TO SHARE LAND FIRE AND GET OPPORTUNITIES TO GET SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT.
THE UM, THE BOUNDARIES OF, OF KIND OF THESE DIFFERENT AREAS AND THAT'S TRADITIONAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS, THE FLIP THING RUNS RIGHT ALONG THE THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BUSINESS SLASH UH, AMENITY OR CORPORATE PARTNERSHIP.
YEAH AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANNA LOOK AT AND EXPLORE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A BUSINESS PLAN.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE ALSO, UM, HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH TIM DAVIES WITH TIMMONS AS WELL, UM, ON LOOKING AT LENDING NET ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE AND LAND USE SIDE FOR THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE TARGET INDUSTRIES, WHAT ARE THINGS THAT LOOK AND FIT AND FEEL BEACHLAND FOR OUR PRIME CORRIDOR OF THOSE THOUSAND ACRES ALONG ASHLAND ROAD AND HOW CAN THAT GROW MATURE OVER TIME THAT'S COMPLIMENTARY TO WHO WE ARE AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE A, UH, VITALITY TO US.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.
THAT'S A BIG CHALLENGE EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT BUT CAN'T DEFINE WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT REALLY IS.
THAT'S ONE THING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT AND ALSO LOOKING AT THAT PRESERVATION PIECE FOR THE OUTLYING AREAS TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE UNINTENTIONAL BLEED OR SPRAWL OVER.
SO HOW WE REALLY HIGHLIGHT OUR PRESERVATION VALUE CUZ YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE THE GROWTH AREA TO ALSO HAVE THE SUSTAINABILITY AND THE VITALITY.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR UTILITIES, IT'S WHERE WE HAVE, UM, THE MAJORITY OF AMENITIES, YOU KNOW, YOUR GROCERY STORES, YOUR OTHER THINGS.
UM, SO HOW YOU HIGHLIGHT THAT AND THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE FOCUSING ON FOR OUR INTRODUCTION.
UM, TOM'S BEEN WORKING TOM COLEMAN, UM, WITH CHUCK AND TEAM ON THAT INTRODUCTION HEAVILY.
IS THERE ANY THOUGHT TO OFFERING INCENTIVES FOR DEVELOPERS TO PUT CERTAIN THINGS ALONG BROAD STREET AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THEY NORMALLY WOULD? THE NORTH SIDE OF BROAD IS FROM THE SHOPPING SIDE AND ALL THAT, THAT PROPERTY IS PRETTY COMMERCIAL.
THERE'S NOTHING YOU'D REALLY WALK TO.
IT'S ALL HAMBURGERS OR TACOS OR SPARK PLUGS, FIREPLACES.
SO THERE'S NOTHING ELSE REALLY.
THE OTHER SIDE, A PIECE OF PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE, IT'S NOW FOR SALE GOES BACK, YOU HAVEN'T INCENTIVE NOT TO NECESSARILY PUT RESIDENTIAL LAB, BUT PUT SOME KIND A NICE COMMERCIAL RESTAURANT OR SMALL BUSINESSES IN THERE, THE TAX PLACE OR SOMETHING.
UM, YEAH, THERE, THERE ARE PROGRAMS OUT THERE THE BOARD WANTS TO BRING FORWARD ONE DAY IS TO, UM, TO DO INCENTIVIZE CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
UM, THERE USED TO BE THE VIBE DISTRICT THAT DID THE, UH, ENCOURAGING SMALL LOCAL RESTAURANTS SORT OF TYPE OF THINGS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, NOT CHANGED AND STUFF.
SO YOU SORT OF CREATED A SENSE OF PLACE.
I THINK WE HAVEN'T SEEN, OF COURSE WHAT THEIR PROPOSAL WAS.
I BEEN A LOT OF FOCUS ON DESIGN SENSE OF PLACE THAT ENCOURAGES THOSE AREAS, ESPECIALLY IN THAT CORE, BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET AND SORT OF HAVE THAT, THAT WALKABLE FEEL AND UH, CLOSENESS AND UM, DISCOURAGE LEAST DISCOURAGED, MORE BIG BOX OR THINGS RELATED THAT.
AND THROUGH YOUR DESIGN STANDARDS YOU SORT OF ENCOURAGE CERTAIN TYPES OF USES PROCESS WISE.
THE THIS DOCUMENT WOULD NOT BE A PLACE WHERE YOU WOULD DISCUSS RIGHT, RIGHT.
SO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTATION STEPS IN, IN THE FUTURE, THE PLAN THAT THE PLANS ARE IMPORTANT, BUT THIS WHAT'S ALSO, THAT'S WHY THEY'RE GONNA PROVIDE SOME OTHER ADDITIONAL IMPLEMENTATION STEPS.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE YOU MAKE THE, THE PLAN COME TO LIFE.
AND I'M, I'M SURE IT'S GONNA BE SOME WORK FOR EACH OF US AROUND THE TABLE IN THE FUTURE, UM, FOR THAT.
BUT I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE IN IMPLEMENTATION STUFF, PEOPLE REALLY GET TO SEE THINGS DONE AND YOU GET TO MAKE SURE THE VISION'S CARRIED FORWARD AND THEY'VE ALREADY HAD SOME GOOD RECOMMENDATIONS IN THAT AREA.
AND I THINK WE'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE COMMISSIONERS GO FORWARD, ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING? IMPLEMENTATION STEPS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE DO YOU THINK WOULD MAKE THIS SORT OF POP? HOW DO WE GET THESE THINGS OFF THE GROUND? I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE, UM, PREVIOUS GROUP PRESENTED IN THEIR LAND PLANNING IS HOW MUCH
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MONEY IS SPENT LOCALLY VERSUS SPENT SPENT SHORT, HOW MANY DOLLARS YOU SPENT ELSEWHERE, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO KEEP THE MONEY LOCAL AND UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING GOOD.IT'S MORE OF LIKE A, NOT A, A VISION, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD STRIVE TO, TO, TO SPEND AS MUCH MONEY LOCALLY AS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, KNOW WITH OUR SERVICES THAT THOSE OF US THAT LIVE HERE, WORK HERE, YOU KNOW, SPEND AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN THE COMMUNITY.
CAUSE IT, IT IMPROVES THE COMMUNITY.
GAS, LOCAL TRANSPORTATION, DOG.
WE NEED EVERY NICKEL WE CAN GET.
SO
THAT'S TRUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AS WAS SAID, WE'LL FOCUS ON A LOT OF THE, THE DESIGNER, THE CHARACTER THAT YOU MIGHT WANT.
UH, AND THEN WE MIGHT IDENTIFY POTENTIAL ORDINANCE REVISIONS.
WE WOULD RECOMMEND YOU EXPLORE OR, YOU KNOW, I NOTICED IN, IN THE PREVIOUS CONSULTANT PLAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF OVERLAYS ON THE LANDING STAFF.
OVERLAYS ARE REALLY A ZONING ORDINANCE TOOL AND THEY NEED TO BE PART ZONING ORDINANCE.
THIS IS A GUIDE, IT'S NOT REGULATED DOCUMENT.
UM, SO THOSE COME AS A NEXT STEP.
SO WE, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IDENTIFY MULTIPLE OPTIONS SO Y'ALL CAN KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE WHAT FITS, UH, AT THE RIGHT TIME FOR Y'ALL.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR I JUST SAID LOOKS GOOD SO FAR? WHAT, UH, IN ADDITION TO WHAT YOU'VE SHARED WITH US THIS EVENING, WHICH IS IN A VERY HIGH LEVEL VISION YEP.
WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING, UM, IN ADDITION TO THIS PRIOR TO COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSES, UM, THE COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSES IS, ARE PRETTY MUCH A DROP DEAD DATE JUST TO GET IT DONE.
SO WE ARE, UH, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT A LARGE TEAM CRANKING ON THIS, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND SO IT'S GONNA BE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE SEEING THIS EVENING.
SO THAT WOULD REALLY UNFORTUNATELY BE THE FIRST JUST WITH THE PACE WE'RE ON AND THE TIMELINE TRYING TO GET THIS IN, UH, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOR Y'ALL.
UM, WE PLAN TO HAVE THE PLANS PUBLICLY POSTED, UM, A MINIMUM OF FOUR TO FIVE DAYS PRIOR TO THE COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSE.
UM, SO IDEALLY THEY WOULD BE GOING UP THE THURSDAY, FRIDAY BEFORE ONLINE SO THEY CAN BE SOCIALIZED.
SO FOLKS CAN COME TO COMMUNITY OPEN HOUSE, UM, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE READ, UM, WHAT IS OUT THERE AND ASK QUESTIONS.
AGAIN, IT'S MORE OF A QUESTION AND AN OVERVIEW OF THE PLANS.
AND I THINK WHAT MIGHT REALLY BE HELPFUL, EVEN THOUGH UM, WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN THE PACKET, IS MAYBE GOING THROUGH THE DIAGNOSTIC REVIEW AND JUST REALLY HIGHLIGHTING THE FACT OF WHAT YOU GUYS, UM, ASSESS JUST TO GET WHERE WE ARE NOW.
BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S A COMPRESSED TIMEFRAME, ONE THING I DO WANNA EMPHASIZE IS THE REALLY THE ONLY CHANGE IS THE CONSULTANT PIECE.
WE ARE WHERE WE SHOULD BE IN THE PROCESS AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, 12 TO 14 MONTHS OF COMMUNITY INPUT AND WORKING TO THEN SYNTHESIZE THAT INTO A DOCUMENT THAT THEN CAN BE PRESENTED, UM, IN A COHESIVE FASHION FOR GOVERNING BODIES TO REVIEW SUCH AS YOURSELVES AS PLANNING COMMISSIONER AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
BUT, UM, THEY SPENT EXTENSIVE TIME REVIEWING ALL OF THE VIDEO FOOTAGE MM-HMM.
SO THERE WAS A TROVE OF INFORMATION AND MATERIALS IN ADDITION TO DROPPING THE WHOLE PLANS, UM, FOR BOTH ON THE WEBSITE.
UM, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT OBLIGATION FOR, UM, ADVERTISING THE CHANGES.
AND SO WE'RE PLANNING FOR EACH OF THE TWO PLANS TO HAVE A TWO PAGE AD IN THE GAZETTE, WHICH INCLUDES EXISTING LAND USE MAP.
THE CURRENT, THE, THE PROPOSED LAND USE MAP MAY BE A TRANSPORTATION MAP, SOME OF THE MAPS AND UH, UH, TEXTUAL DESCRIPTION OF A LOT THAT CHANGES.
SO AT LEAST THAT PIECE WILL START TO BE AVAILABLE IN THE GAZETTE A AROUND THE TIME.
I FORGET THE EXACT PUBLICATION DATES, BUT, UM, UM, IT'LL BE IN ALSO BE IN MAY.
SO THERE'LL BE AGAIN FOUR PAGES OF THE GOLAND GAZETTE, TWO ON THE COURTHOUSE, TWO ON CENTERVILLE AS WELL AS ONLINE.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE TIMING COMES.
THIS IS FOR THE PUBLIC NOTICE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MEETING'S COMING UP RIGHT.
AS TO WHAT ARE THE CHANGES, BUT WE'LL HAVE THE FULL PLANS ONLINE.
UM, AND THEN FOUR TO FIVE DAYS BEFORE THIS PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE'LL TRY TO HAVE ALL UP SAME TIME AGAIN.
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WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT PLANS ARE AT LEAST OUT BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE COMMUNITY MEETING.SO THAT'S, THE TIMELINES ARE ABOUT THE SAME AS WHEN WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE ACTUALLY THEY'LL BE RUNNING QUICKER OVERLAP.
BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOTHING LIKE A TWO SENTENCE UNDERSTAND PARAGRAPH WAY.
OUR NORMAL AT RUN, IT'S, WE'VE BEEN PREPPING FOR THIS FOR A WHILE.
IT'S, IT'S EXPENSIVE, BUT I'M TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, SOME GOOD INFORMATION NOW TOO.
THE PUBLIC WHO, WHO AREN'T, IT'LL, THEY'LL BE REFERRED TO THE WEBSITE TO GET THE FULL DOCUMENT BUT TO GET A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION OUT PUBLIC.
WELL THIS CONTRAST, THE EXISTING COMPLAIN NEW.
THOSE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT INTO THE COMP PLAN AND WE USE IT ON THAT MONTHLY MEETINGS.
YOU COMPLY, YOU DON'T COMPLY WITH A COMP PLAN.
AND THESE ARE AMENDMENTS TO THAT COMP PLAN.
WHEN I TALK ABOUT THREE MAPS, WHAT WE'VE SORT OF SKETCHED OUT RIGHT NOW IS THE EXISTING COMP PLAN FOR ONE OF THESE AREAS AND THE PROPOSED LAND USE, THE EXISTING LAND USE MAP FROM THE SAY COURTHOUSE AREA AND ALSO A MAP OF THE EXIST, THE PROPOSAL OF THIS CONFLICT BOTH IN THAT APP FOR BOTH COURTHOUSE AND THEN FOR CENTERVILLE.
SO THAT SEE WHAT YES, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO ADVERTISE THE CHANGE.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE ARE ALWAYS REQUIRED TO ADVERTISE HOW ARE YOU CHANGING? AND THAT'S BETTER ENOUGH TRYING TO, TO EXPLAIN EXACTLY EVERY LINE PARCEL.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE GOOD LANDMARKS IN SOME OF THEM AS YOU WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, LOOKING AT THE MAP.
UM, BUT THE EXISTING MAP SHOWING THAT WE HAVEN'T EXPANDED OR HAVE CONTRACTED UM, IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT, ESPECIALLY WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT LAND USE DISTINCTIONS FROM WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE PLAN SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHERE I WAS, THIS IS WHO I AM NOW.
WHEN WILL THE NEW COMP PLAN COME OUT? IS IT COORDINATED WITH THIS? WILL IT BE ANOTHER YEAR FROM NOW? WELL, UM, I REALLY, YOU AMEND YOUR COMP PLAN REGULARLY, SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NEW EIGHT AND HALF BY 14 AND YOU'VE ALREADY, THAT COMP PLAN'S ALREADY BEEN AMENDED AT LEAST TWICE OR THREE TIMES.
THIS DOCUMENT WILL BE AMENDED, THE COMP PLAN, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA COME OUT THE NEW VERSION TYPICALLY TAKE NEW BOUND VERSION ONLY 2015 ADOPTION, MAYBE LIKE A1 YEAR ANNIVERSARY.
WE'RE
UM, BUT WE HAD THE FUTURE AREA.
WE SHOWED IN THE CENTERVILLE MAP, UM, THE OTHER AREA THAT TOOK OUT A COURTHOUSE.
WE ALL KNOW THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS IN THE COUNTY THAT REALLY NEED A, A FOCUS, UM, AS FAR AS UPDATING THE LAND USE PLAN, PRIVATE TRANSPORTATION PLANS AS WELL.
UM, SO THESE ARE, AS WE FINISH THIS STEP, WE'LL BE JUMPING INTO A BUNCH MORE AND FOLLOWING THE IMPLEMENTATION STEPS GONNA SPEED UP IMMEDIATELY RIGHT AFTER RIGHT.
SPEEDA WILL BE STARTING RIGHT AWAY.
UM, SO THE, THE COMP PLAN BY END OF THE NEXT TWO YEARS, UM, IS GONNA BE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT EVALUATION THAN IT CURRENTLY IS NOW.
UM, BUT AS WE GO ALONG, WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SORT OF INTERNAL FIXES IN THE EXISTING COMP PLAN, UM, TO MAKE SURE THINGS MATCH AS WE GO FORWARD AND WE'LL UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS ON, YOU KNOW, WHETHER WHAT ARE THE KEY ELEMENTS WE MAKE WE NEED TO ADD IN OR WHATEVER AS WE GO FORWARD.
TO BE FAIR THOUGH, HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF A CHAOTIC IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE IT MEANS THAT WE HAVE BEEN, IT'S A VIABLE DOCUMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO WHEN WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, WE'VE BEEN PROVING IT.
WE GO ALONG AND NOT LIKE WAITING FIVE YEARS, PULLING IT OUT AND GO, I DON'T WANNA FACE THAT.
YOU KNOW, 2015, NOTHING MATCHED.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST, THE FACT THAT THE MAJOR
WE GOTTA FOLD IT ALL INTO ONE DOCUMENT.
BUT, AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE MENTIONED ALL THESE SMALL SPOTS WHEN WE FIRST, UH, CAME TO, TO LOOK AT BOTH THE VILLAGES AND UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE NEXT SPEED THAT WAS NEXT ON OUR LIST.
REALLY ONCE THE IDEA OF HAVING LIKE ALL THE TOUGH AREAS THAT ARE, UM, ALL, YOU KNOW, CHALLENGED BY GROWTH, THE REST OF THE AREA OF THE, THE COUNTY FOR THE MOST PART IS THAT RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
AND THAT DESERVES THE SAME INTENTION CUZ YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING PRESSURES, DIFFERENT TYPES OF PRESSURES OUT THERE AND WE'RE TALKING A LOT IN THESE PLANS ABOUT WHAT THAT 85, 15 IS WE NEED TO TAKE SOME TIME, YOU KNOW, AFTER WE DO THIS.
HOW, HOW DO WE PRESERVE THAT PART? 85.
I HAVE CONVERTED, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT 85.
I MEAN THAT AREAS CHANGING AND, AND WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PRESSURE COMING OUT OF SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WHERE THERE'S ON BORDER TOO AND, AND WE CONTINUALLY SEE A LOT OF
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ONE-OFF DEVELOPMENT AND SO IT'S HOW DO WE REALLY FOSTER THAT IN THE RIGHT PLACE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED FROM THE.