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WE HAVE A VACANCY FOR A SECOND, LIKE THE WESTERN COUNTY.THERE ARE PARTS OF THE JERSEY.
MY FAMILY, UM, MY PARENTS WERE BOTH BORN TO PHILADELPHIA, BUT THEY'RE, EVERYBODY MOVED TO SOUTH JERSEY, SO, OKAY.
SO THAT I DO NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON, LET'S DO, LET'S DO IT WHENEVER.
STILL HAVE ONE MINUTE, SECOND HAND.
WE DON'T GETL FOR THIS MEETING.
ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY CALL THE MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE, UH, TO ORDER AT FIVE 30.
UH, WE'LL HAVE QUICK, UH, DETERMINATION OF THE, WE HAVE TWO NEW MEMBERS.
OKAY, SIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO BRIEF INTRODUCTIONS? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WE, WE DID A VERY CASUAL INTRODUCTION.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, TELL YOU WHERE YOU ARE.
I'M ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I'M DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
HAS A NUMBER OF, UH, DEPARTMENTS WITHIN IT.
WE HAVE, UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER WHERE PEOPLE COME IN.
THEY APPLY FOR BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT WE DO.
UH, WE HAVE PLANNING AND ZONING.
WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION BUILDING INSPECTIONS, AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL AND TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT.
SO WE HAVE BASICALLY FROM START TO FINISH FROM, UH, APPLICATION TO A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IN OUR DEPARTMENT.
I'M MOST OF THE CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER MANAGER.
I'M KELLY JACKSON WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
SO WE SIT IN, IN, UM, MOST COUNTY BOARD AND COMMISSION MEETINGS.
NOW I'M, UH, MAYBE A CHAIR AND
AND, UH, BEEN HERE PRETTY MUCH MY WHOLE LIFE.
I WENT TO SCHOOL, BUT I, MY ROOTS HAVE BEEN IN HOUSTON TRAVEL.
WELL, I'M JOSH GILLISPIE AND I'M, I'M THE SITTING CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE AND I AM NEWER TO GOLAND THAN ALL MY LIFE, UH,
BUT, UH, AS I WAS SPEAKING WITH OUR NEW MEMBER OF PATIENTS HERE, UM, WE HAVE A SIMILAR TRACK.
UH, MY PARENTS, I MIGHT SEE MY PARENTS IN-LAW FOLLOWED THE FIRST GRANDKIDS HERE IN THE CHESTERFIELD AREA, AND THEN WE FOLLOWED THEM.
SO WE, WE'VE BEEN IN THIS AREA FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AND LOVE THE COMMUNITY.
SO THAT'S, WE'RE IN THE, WE'RE IN THE EASTERN END OF THE CAMP.
THE WESTERN PART OF THE EASTERN END.
HAVING MOVED HERE IN SEPTEMBER BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER MOVED DOWN HERE FOR A JOB.
AND, UM, SO I'VE BEEN ENJOYING EXPLORING COPELAND COUNTY CAUSE IT'S MUCH LIKE AREA WHERE I LIVED IN NEW JERSEY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, MY FIRST EXPERIENCE DRIVING THROUGH SHORT PUMP TO COME DOWN HERE WHEN I WAS LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO LIVE.
LIKE, I CAN'T LIVE HERE
SO PERIODICALLY I JUST RUN AWAY FROM IT ALL AND GO OUT TO ONE OF THE PARKS, INLAND COUNTY.
CAUSE THAT'S GOOD FOR MY SOUL, AND I'M GLAD ON THE COMMITTEE.
UM, SO WE HAVE OUR AGENDA AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY CHANGE THE ORDER OF THE AGENDA.
I'D LIKE TO REVIEW BYLAWS FIRST, UH, BEFORE WE LET THE OFFICERS.
SO WAS DIRECTOR SHERRY, WAS STAFF GONNA WALK US THROUGH BYLAWS A LITTLE BIT SINCE WE, OR I'M SORRY, THE PARLIAMENTARIAN.
I'M GONNA HAVE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, UH, GO THROUGH.
WE, WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T PROPOSED ANY CHANGES FOR THIS YEAR, SO I WASN'T PLANNING TO GO THROUGH THEM.
BUT SINCE WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS, IT'S, IT JUST BASICALLY RECITES WHAT'S IN OUR, WHAT'S IN STATE CODE AND COUNTY CODE COMBINED, UM, JUST FOR US TO REFERENCE, LIKE
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MOSTLY WE LOOK AT IT IN TERMS ARE EXPIRING OR THINGS LIKE THAT.UM, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
UM, ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR? THEY'RE PRETTY SHORT BYLAWS.
I NOTED THAT, UM, SOMETIMES ASSOCIATIONS OR, UH, ORGANIZATIONS WHO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ARE GIVEN MORE TIME THAN INDIVIDUAL SPEAKERS, BUT WE HAVE THE SAME TIME ALLOTTED THREE MINUTES FOR AN INDIVIDUAL SPEAKER AND THE SPEAKER FROM THE ASSOCIATION.
AND I THINK THAT'S FINE, BUT IT IS, LET ME FIND WHERE YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE REFERENCING PAGE THREE UNDER CITIZEN COMMENTS.
THE, UH, FOURTH PARAGRAPH MM-HMM.
SPOKESMAN MAY BE ALLOWED TO SET TIME MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
AND SO IT'S EXPECTED IT WILL BE FREE, BUT THE CHAIR'S DISCRETION COULD BE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I FOUND, I, I FIND OUR BYLAWS A VERY GOOD ORDER.
I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE WHEN THEY WERE LAST AMENDED.
UM, BUT I DON'T SEE, AGAIN, UNLESS THEY'RE STATUTORY REASONS, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO AMEND THE ORDER OF BUSINESS, UM, FOR THE OPERATIONS OF THE COMMITTEE.
I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVEN'T AMENDED THEM IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH 2020.
OH, IS THAT, OH, I, CAUSE WE HAVEN'T MET THAT OFTEN.
MAYBE THAT'S PROBABLY WHY I GOT, BUT GOING BACK TO 4.3, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THE POINT.
WHAT? THE POINT IS THAT THE STANDARD EXPECTATION IS THAT THE ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES WHO HAVE THREE MINUTES, WHERE, AND WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT? WELL, IT DOESN'T SAY, IT SAYS THAT THE SOLE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR, THEY MAY HAVE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES.
I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THREE MINUTES.
A SPEAKER'S TIME IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
SO THE THIRD PARAGRAPH, 4.3 MM-HMM.
BUT THEN THE NEXT PARAGRAPH SAYS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS MAY SELECT A SPOKESMAN AT THIS WHOLE, A NEIGHBORHOOD SPOKESMAN MAY BE ALLOWED A SET AMOUNT OF TIME, MORE THAN THREE FAMILIES.
SO I THINK CAUSE THEY'RE REPRESENTING RIGHT.
MORE THAN THEMSELVES TALKING FOR ANY PEOPLE.
SO LIKE AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT'S KIND OF COMPLICATED, BUT WE HAVE UP TO FOUR SPEAKERS COME UP, STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS AND SEE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER.
AND A SPEAKER CAN HAVE UP TO 10 MINUTES IF FOUR PEOPLE DO THAT.
SO IT'S LIKE TWO TIMES FIVE IS 10.
SO THIS IS JUST MAKING IT A LITTLE LESS COMPLICATED.
BUT IF THEY'RE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYBE YOU WOULD SAY, OKAY, YOU COULD HAVE FIVE MINUTES OR, OR, OR WHOEVER THE CHAIR IS.
SO WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE LOGISTICS OF, OF HOW IT WOULD WORK, I LIKE THE FACT THAT, I MEAN, TO ME, IT SEEMS TO IMPLY THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME TO SPEAK AS ANYBODY ELSE.
FIVE MINUTES, 10 MINUTES, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE.
BUT THERE'S NO CALCULUS THAT HAS TO GO INTO IT OF SEATING TIME OR LIMITING THEM TO FIVE MINUTES.
AND EVEN THE THREE MINUTES SAYS CAN BE ADJUSTED.
SO IT'S ALL AT THE DISCRETION.
SO, BUT I WANNA START WITH THAT BECAUSE IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE DIFFERENT POSITIONS MM-HMM.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT THIS COMMITTEE MEETS AS NEEDED.
UH, STAFF DOES A FANTASTIC JOB OF GETTING THINGS THROUGH THE, UM, DESIGN ENHANCEMENT PROCESS, IF WE CAN CALL IT THAT, UH, THROUGH THE REVIEW CRITERIA, MAKING SURE THAT DESIGNS ARE ENHANCED AS THEY COME INTO THE REVIEW DISTRICTS, DISTRICTS.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESS OFOR THINGS THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS WHERE THERE'S EITHER A DISPUTE OR, UM, CRITERIA MAY BE UNCLEAR.
SO, UM, THE, THE POSITION OF LEADING THE SORT, THIS COMMITTEE IS, UH, FAIRLY LIGHT UNTIL, OF COURSE IT DOES GET COMPLICATED IN AUTHORITY.
SO I, I HAVE SERVED IN THIS, THIS ROLE FOR ALL OF, UH, ONE, UH, ANNUM ALL OF ONE YEAR.
AND WE'VE HAD ONE, UH, MEETING TO DISPOSE BUSINESS DURING MY CHAIRMANSHIP.
SO IT'S BEEN A VERY, KIND OF A SIMPLE DUTY IN THE 12 MONTHS.
UM, SO I WOULD BE, UM, CERTAINLY OPEN TO HAVING ADDITIONAL LEADERSHIP IF, UM, I KNOW MR. DANDRIDGE HAS WATCHED SOME OF THE PROCEEDINGS AT OTHER MEETINGS IN ADDITION TO THE, TO THE ONE THAT I WAS THE CHAIR AT.
UM, SO I WOULD CERTAINLY SAY THAT I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION FOR, UH, CHANGE OF CHAIR, VICE-CHAIR POSITIONS.
UM, AND THEN CERTAINLY THE CALL I KNOW IS OUT.
WE'RE SAYING FOR THE ADDITIONAL ALTERNATE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR, OR QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE MINUTES? I HAD A CHANCE TO EXAMINE THOSE.
SO WE MOVE TO THE MINUTES NOW.
DID YOU, YOU JUST, SORRY, I'M JUST CLARIFYING THE MINUTES OR LAST I THINK WE CAN, MY SUGGESTION WAS WE DID NOT DO THIS REAL FORMALLY, BUT MY SUGGESTION WAS THAT
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C1 REVIEW A DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE BYLAWS PROCEED THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS, AND THE POINT WAS TO ALLOW SOME DISCUSSION OF MM-HMM.I KNOW, BUT THEN YOU WENT TO D RIGHT? YEAH, NO, NO, I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MINUTES.
I THINK YOU MEANT SAYING MORE DISCUSSION ON BYLAWS SAID, SO WE JUST WANTED MAKE SURE WE WERE GOING THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SO ELECTION OF OFFICERS IS WHERE WE WANNA HEAD TO.
I, WE PROPOSE WE GO TO ELECTION OF OFFICERS.
UH, ARE THERE ANY MOTIONS FROM THE FLOOR TO, FOR NOMINATIONS AND LAW, SPECIFY THE ORDER NOMINATION? TYPICALLY CHAIR, VICE CHAIR.
YOU COULD BE CHAIRMAN AGAIN, RIGHT? YES.
I OFFER IT UP TO MR. DRIDGE IF HE'S WILLING TO SERVE.
I'LL NOT MAKE A NOMINATION FROM THE FLOOR.
LIKE ME IMMEDIATELY? YES, IT DOES.
SO YOU WOULD ASK NOW IF THERE'S ANY NOMINATIONS FOR THE NEXT CHAIR.
THAT'S WHAT I SAID WITH YOUR SUPPORT.
SO ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR THE, DO I HAVE TO HIT THIS EVERY TIME? NO, NO.
ONLY WHEN YOU NEED IT, MR. CHAIR.
SO, UM, ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS FOR THE VICE CHAIR? DO YOU WANNA BE THE VICE CHAIR? VICE CHAIR? NOMINATE YOU AS VICE CHAIR.
MOTION PASSES FOR MR. GLAD TO BE THE VICE CHAIR.
SOMETIMES A LITTLE PAINFUL GOING THROUGH THAT
AS FAR AS, WELL, I THINK WE'RE AT, ARE WE ON C2? OKAY.
AND I THINK THIS IS, UM, MR. CASH HAS PUT TOGETHER A, UH, YEAH.
I KNOW THAT, UM, THE CHAIR NEEDS TO LEAN.
DO YOU WANNA DO, I DUNNO IF YOU WANNA FOR MINUTE, I APOLOGIZE.
RECEPTION WITH MY WIFE, TRUSTEE.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF YOU WANT TO MAYBE ADDRESS THE MINUTES THAT WOULD THEN CLOSE OUT THE, THE VOTING BUSINESS, AND THEN WE CAN, UH, MOVE ON TO THE, THE FLUFFY STUFF FROM MR. UH, CASH FLUFF.
SO DO I JUST GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? YEAH.
SAY HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW AND THE A MOTION? WELL, I, THAT DOOR MINUTES WANTS, WHAT'S THAT ON APPROVAL OF MINUTES THAT YOU HAVE TO BE IN ATTENDANCE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE, YOU CAN TRUST IN THE SECRETARY.
YOU COULD HAVE WATCHED THE MEETING ONLINE AFTERWARDS, SO, OKAY.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ABSTAIN IF YOU WERE NOT HERE FOR THE MINUTES.
IN FACT, THAT WOULD ONLY LEAVE ONE OF YOU TO VOTE.
SO,
IF YOU'RE UNCOMFORTABLE, YOU CAN ABSTAIN.
I DON'T MIND HAVE, DON'T VOTING IF SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS THEY'RE OKAY.
I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENT ON THE MINUTES.
STAFFING MINUTES THAT ARE EASY TO FOLLOW AND GOOD SUMMARY OF THE ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN.
ALL IN FAVOR MEET YOU? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
UM, AS WE HAVE, UH, A NEW ACTIVE MEMBER AND A NEW MEMBER STEPPING UP, UM, GONNA QUICKLY PUT A COUPLE THINGS TOGETHER TO GO THROUGH TONIGHT.
UM, AND REALLY IS TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU DO AS THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, FIRST OFF, AS, UH, JOSH MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, YOU MEET WHEN WE NEED YOU TO MEET OR WHEN WE BEG, PLEASE HUNT YOU DOWN TO MEET.
UM, THANKFULLY WITH OUR PROCESS, UM, YOU KNOW, PART OF WHAT YOU CAN DO, ASIR COMMITTEE, YOU ARE ALSO SERVICE A LITTLE BIT AS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS WELL IN SOME PORTIONS.
UM, YOU HAVE A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE ORDINANCE, ARTICLE 27 ENTRANCE CORRIDOR AND VILLAGE CENTER OVERLAY
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DISTRICTS THAT YOU ADMINISTER.UM, YOUR MEETINGS DO HAVE TO COMPLY WITH VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, UH, AS WE HAVE TO SERVE NOTICE OF WHEN YOU'RE MEETING, UH, TAKE MINUTES.
UM, WHAT YOU'RE DOING AS THE COMMITTEE IS YOU'RE ADMINISTERING THE CERTIFICATE APPROVAL POP PROCESS, WHICH MOST OFTEN YOU'LL HEAR ME SAY COA, COA, COA.
UM, AND YOU CAN ALSO OVER FROM TIME TO TIME MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TOWARDS ADDITIONAL STANDARDS OR OTHER TYPE OF, UM, UH, MODIFICATIONS, UH, TO THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AND THAT WOULD GO TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL, CORRECT? RIGHT.
THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL AND THEN STAFF IT, UH, MODIFIED TO, UH, TO SEEK MODIFICATIONS TO THE ORDINANCE.
UM, YOU COULD ALSO BE ADVISORY IN CERTAIN, UM, SITUATIONS REGARDING CERTAIN APPLICATIONS THAT COME ABOUT IN WITHIN THE OVERLAY DISTRICTS.
YOU ALSO, AS PART OF, YOU DON'T JUST SAY YAY OR NAY, YOU CAN ALSO, UM, SEEK DEVIATIONS TO THE STANDARDS IF SOMEONE REQUESTS THEM.
YOU COULD ALSO IMPOSE CONDITIONS WHERE THEY SEEK MODIFICATIONS TO THE APPLICATIONS.
UM, SO PART OF THE PROCESS, ANYBODY WANTS A NEW, NEW BUILDING PERMIT, UH, SIGNED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S IN ONE OF THE OVERLAYS.
THEY HAVE TO COME FOR PERFORMANCE WITH A CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL, UM, APPLICATION.
UH, THEY SUBMIT IT TO OUR OFFICE.
UM, TYPICALLY WHAT WE GET IS ARCHITECTURAL ELEVATIONS SITE PLAN OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, DESIGN OF MATERIALS THAT THEY'RE USING.
COULD BE COLORS, UM, LIGHTING PLANTS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.
BUT, UH, VERY OFTEN LANDSCAPING PLANTS WHILE ALSO DO.
UM, AND ALL OF THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE DIFFERENT OVERLAYS, THE DIFFERENT DESIGN STANDARDS.
UM, TYPICALLY WE APPROVE MOST OFTEN, UH, ADMINISTRATIVELY.
UM, WE HAVE ABOUT 10 DAYS TO DO THAT.
UM, IF THEY SEEK A MODIFICATION TO THE STANDARDS OR WE CAN'T APPROVE THEM, THEY CAN BASICALLY, UM, REQUEST TO COME BEFORE YOU.
AND THAT'S BASICALLY SIMILAR TO AN APPEAL PROCESS EXEMPTIONS.
THESE ARE MOSTLY FOR, KEEP IN MIND, IT'S GENERALLY FOR COMMERCIAL TYPE OF PROPERTY.
UM, USUALLY IT'S IF THEY'RE DOING MINOR MODIFICATIONS OR REPAIR OR UPKEEP, THAT'S NOT A MODIFICATION THAT COMES BACK BEFORE YOU, LIKE THEY'RE REFACING A SIGN.
SO THERE'S CERTAIN ELEMENTS, AND THIS IS ALL WORDING UP HERE, BUT IT'S BASICALLY, UM, YOU HAVE TO MEET THE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT ARE WITHIN THE OVERLAP.
UM, AND WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE JUDGING IT UPON.
UM, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU EVALUATE SOMETHING DOES THE, DOES THE PROJECT, HAS THE WHOLE OR THE COMBINATION OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING CONFORM TO THE ARCHITECTURAL PRINCIPLES THAT ARE OUTLINED INSIDE THE OVERLAY.
UM, AND IS IT TO THE GOER OVERLAY DISTRICT? UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS, UH, LIKE THE LANGUAGE AT THE VERY BOTTOM IS THE ONE IS, WELL BY THE WAY THEY'RE DOING THE ARCHITECTURE OR WHAT THEY'RE DOING THERE, DOES THAT ITSELF BECOME A COMMERCIAL DISPLAY? DOES IT SORT OF FUNCTION AS A SIGN? UM, AND THAT COULD BE A, YOU KNOW, BY THE SHAPE OF THE BUILDING, THEY WANT TO DEVIATE FROM WHAT OUR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS ARE AND THEY WANT TO SHAPE THEIR BUILDING IN A FASHION THAT REALLY BECOMES THEIR SIGNATURE OF WHAT THEY ARE.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE MATERIALS THAT ARE ARE WELL MADE.
THEY NOT GONNA DETERIORATE RAPIDLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, DON'T, DOESN'T HAVE A DETRIMENT UPON THE OVERALL CORRIDOR AND WHAT THE DESIGN CORRIDOR IS SUPPOSED TO ACCOMPLISH FOR THE AREA.
SO WHATEVER WE DO HERE, JUST LIKE STAFF, UM, IF, IF THEY APPEAL JAMIE AND I'S DECISION ON THE CERTIFICATE APPROVAL, IT COMES TO YOU.
UM, IF YOU MAKE A DECISION AND SOMEONE'S AGREED BY IT, IT WOULD ACTUALLY, WE GO TO THE BOARD SUPERVISORS.
THERE'S ANOTHER PROCESS THAT ANY TYPE OF DECISION A BOARD MAKES, THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR APPEAL TO THE CIRCUIT COURT.
UM, I WON'T GO INTO THE PERSON AGGRIEVED TYPE THING AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HE'S ELIGIBLE FOR A CERTAIN APPLICATION OR STUFF.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT ME AND AN ATTORNEY AS WELL DEVELOPED AS DETERMINED IF THE PERSON HAS THE RIGHT OF APPEAL.
SO WHAT ARE THEY DESIGN OVERLAYS THAT YOU'RE HERE FOR? WE HAVE A COUPLE.
THE ENTRANCE QUARTER AND WHAT WE CALL THE MILL CENTER.
UM, AND WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SUPPLEMENT THE EXISTING ZONING ORDINANCE WITH WE AND OVERLAY SOMETHING THAT ADDS ADDITIONAL STANDARDS OR ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, THEY RELATE TO DESIGN NOT TO USE.
SO REALLY WHEN YOU'RE EVALUATING AN APPLICATION, YOU'RE NOT REALLY THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE USE IS.
YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW DOES IT FIT, WHAT DOES IT MEET OUR DESIGN STAND LIKE THE ZONING DISTRICT SORT TAKES CARE OF THE USE.
UM, THERE WILL BE CONFLICTS BETWEEN OUR BASE ZONING ORDINANCE AND WHAT THE OVERLAY REQUIRES.
UM, WHICHEVER WAY IT GOES THAT THE MOST, UM, RESTRICTIVE PROVISION APPLIES.
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SO FOR EXAMPLE, I JUST GAVE YOU THE BEAM ONE DISTRICT.IF YOU THINK IN THE CENTERVILLE AREA, UM, A PARKING SETBACK COULD GO DOWN TO FIVE P.
UM, THE OVERLAY HAS A 35 FOOT BUFFER, WHICH SAYS EXCLUSIVELY PARKING, PARKING CAMP HAS TO BE OUTSIDE THAT SETBACK.
SO THE MORE RESTRICTIVE REQUIREMENT FOR AN APPLICATION IN FRAUD STREET OVERLAY, BROAD STREET ROAD WOULD BE A 35 FOOT SETBACK VERSUS A FIVE FOOT
IF THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THAT, STAFF WOULD GUIDE YOU THROUGH IT.
UM, AND TYPICALLY WE DEAL WITH THAT AT THE
UM, SO QUICKLY THE OVERLAYS HIMSELF, UM, THIS IS THE MOST SORT OF THE ONE THAT WAS CONFUSING THAT I FIRST GUY HERE.
BUT IF YOU SEE THE RED, THAT'S THE RIVER RIVER ROAD OUT OVERLAY, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY GOES FROM THE HENRICO COUNTY LINE TO THE INTERSECTION WITH ROUTE SIX AT PATTERSON PATTERSON AVENUE.
AND THEN THERE'S AN OVERLAY THAT ALSO GOES FROM PATTERSON, UM, I'M SORRY, ENRICO COUNTY LINE ALL THE WAY MEAN THROUGH THE COUNTY ALONG ROUTE SIX UNTIL BASICALLY YOU RE REACH THE, UM, BORDER OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, UM, OVERLAY, WHICH IS MAINTENANCE ROAD.
AND THAT HAS CERTAIN ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS THAT REALLY, UM, APPLY TO THE, YOU KNOW, APPEARANCE ALONG THE ROAD, SOME ADDITIONAL SETBACKS AND THE LIKE.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE, HERE WE GO, THE OTHERS ARE THE, WHAT WE CALL THE VILLAGE CENTER DESIGN OVERLAYS.
SO COURTHOUSE ROAD, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, IF YOU NOTICE, IT'S REALLY THE PRIMARY ROADS THROUGH THE VILLAGE.
UM, SO IT GOES, YOU KNOW, FAIRGROUNDS, ROUTE SIX, SANDY HOOK, ALONG THOSE, THERE'S DESIGN STANDARD OVERLAY.
A LOT OF THAT RELATES TO ARCHITECTURE, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF DESIGN ELEMENTS.
OILVILLE ALSO IS A DESIGN OVERLAY AND THAT'S MAINLY ONE BROAD STREET BAY AND OF COURSE OILVILLE RIG.
UM, THAT AS WELL HAS SIMILAR DESIGN STANDARDS.
WE'VE GOT AN ARCH ARCHITECTURAL SETBACKS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN AREA THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN ZONED COMMERCIAL FOR A LONG TIME, BUT YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT THERE.
UM, WE'VE HAD A CASE LAST YEAR THAT CAME FORWARD WITH
THE DESIGN STANDARDS MODIFICATION CAME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE.
AND THEN THE OTHER IS, UM, THE CENTER BILL AREA ALSO REFERRED TO IN THE ORDINANCE AS THE BROAD STREET ROUTE TWO 50 OVERLAY.
UM, AND THIS ONE IS SOMETHING THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW.
THE AREA ITSELF IS CURRENTLY UNDER A SPECIAL AREA PLAN EVALUATION, LOTS OF DESIGN STANDARDS IN CENTERVILLE.
UM, IT MAY BE OR COULD BE LIKELY THAT WE MAY BE AMEND NO STANDARDS OVER THE NEXT YEAR FOR COURTHOUSES, FOR, FOR COURTHOUSE AS WELL.
UM, AND MOST OFTEN THE APPLICATIONS YOU'RE GONNA SEE COME FORWARD WOULD LIKELY BE WITHIN CENTERVILLE.
UM, CUZ THAT'S THE, THESE ARE OUR ESPECIALLY, UH, COURTHOUSE AND CENTERVILLE ARE REALLY PRIME GROWTH AREAS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE SOME APPLICATIONS RECENTLY IN WILLVILLE AS WELL, UM, THAT WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE, THERE'S ALSO SOME ZONING CASES PENDING IN AN AREA.
UM, SO REALLY THE THE QUICK RUN THROUGH IS JUST TO GIVE YOU LIKE, HERE'S WHERE WE ARE.
UM, DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT OVERLAY? SO WE'RE COMING FORWARD ORALLY? YEAH, I MEAN, KIND OF JUST TO SUMMARIZE WHAT HE, WHAT HE JUST SAID IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, PRETTY MUCH ANY APPLICATION THAT CAME IN, ONE OF THESE OVERLAY DISTRICTS USED TO COME TO THE COMMITTEE AND IT WAS A LOT.
AND SO, UH, WE AMENDED THE ORDINANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, BEFORE I GOT HERE.
SO TO, UM, ALLOW STAFF TO DO AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW AND THEN WHATEVER, SEE, I'M SORRY, UM, WHATEVER, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T MEET THE EXACT ORDINANCE WOULD COME TO, TO YOU ALL.
SO THAT'S HOW IT IS RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, UH, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH, UM, TWO AREA PLANS THAT WOULD BE IMPACTED POTENTIALLY.
SO I GUESS THAT'S, YOU KNOW, TO COME, RIGHT? AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING ALSO KEEP IN MIND AS THE COMMITTEE, YOU'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WOULD LIKE YOUR, YOU'RE FREE LIKE OTHER CITIZENS, BUT IT'S ALSO PART OF YOUR ROLE AS THE DESIGN REVIEW REVIEW COMMITTEE.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE DESIGNS SHOULD THEY BE MODIFIED TO TODAY.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS FOR THE COUNTY AS FAR AS THESE TWO SMALL AREA PLANS.
UM, WE'RE EXPECTING UPDATED DRAFT, A FINAL, THEY DROPPED DRAFT TO DONE TO THE PUBLIC SHORT WEEK, BUT, UH, WE'RE GONNA PUT 'EM OUT I BELIEVE WEDNESDAY.
I THINK IT'S WHEN WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING THEM OUT TO THE PUBLIC.
SO, UM, I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDED TO OUR EMAIL LIST.
UM, I KNOW MR. LES IS JUST SO THAT YOU CAN GET COPIES.
YEAH, I SAW THAT THERE GONNA BE SOME MORE MEETINGS WITH PRESENTING THOSE TO THE ABSOLUTELY.
SO THAT MAY 15TH AND MAY 18TH, WHAT
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IS THAT? WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE COMMUNITY, THE, THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS? UNBELIEVABLE.YOU TALK, I'LL LOOK ON THE CALENDAR, JUST SURE.
UH, AND I THINK I CANNOT, SO MAY 15TH, I BELIEVE CENTERVILLE, CENTERVILLE FIRST MAY 18TH IS, UH, COURTHOUSE, RIGHT? I MEAN COURTHOUSE, I KEEP SAYING COURTHOUSE.
WE KNOW I WE'RE, I KNOW HOW TO GET HER EVERY DAY.
AND, UH, SO AGAIN, I, WE, WE CUT FOR PUBLIC ANTICIPATION COURSE.
AND IF WE, ANY QUESTIONS ONCE THE PLANS DROP, UM, THEY'LL LET US KNOW.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOUR JOB AND MY JOB, OUR JOBS AFTER THAT IS IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLANS AND TO MAKE THEM TO WORK AND BASICALLY, UH, THE ENFORCEMENT OF WHATEVER THAT COMES OUT THOSE PLANS.
SO IT'S A BUSY TIME COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
UM, AS FAR AS ONCE THESE PLANS BEEN ATTACHED, AND WE ANTICIPATE THERAPY, LOTS OF REQUEST.
SO TUESDAY THE 16TH IS THE FIRST, UH, COMMUNITY MEETING UPDATE FOR THE, FOR THE PLANS.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE, UM, AT, IN THE NOTCH AT THE RESIDENCE INN AT SIX O'CLOCK.
AND THEN ON THURSDAY, THE MEETING WILL BE HERE AT SIX O'CLOCK.
AND THAT IS TO, UH, FOR THE COURTHOUSE SMALL AREA PLAN.
AND THEN THERE ARE SOME PUBLIC HEARING, UH, DATES COMING UP AS WELL.
UM, UH, I THINK IT'S THE NEXT WEEK.
I'LL MAKE SURE THAT I HAVE THOSE.
UH, IT'S 22ND, 25TH ORTH, 22ND, 24TH.
I GOT DATES ON, I DUNNO THE BOARD DATES, BUT YEAH, 22ND, 24TH AND VERSE I THINK COURTHOUSE FIRST.
AND YES, UH, DON'T HAVE IT HANDY.
SO IT, UM, ON JUNE 15TH, UM, IS THE BOARD, UH, COURTHOUSE MEETING? OH NO, THAT'S THE CENTERVILLE MEETING.
SO MONDAY THE 12TH, IT WILL BE THE COURTHOUSE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND THAT'S OF JUNE.
AND THEN FOR THE, UM, CENTERVILLE SMALL AREA PLAN PLAN PUBLIC HEARING IS ON WEDNESDAY THE 14TH OF JUNE.
WANNA MAKE SURE I GOT THAT RIGHT FOR THE, I CAN EMAIL YOU.
I'M SURE WE'VE, UH, TWISTED THE DATES AROUND AND CONFUSE EVERYBODY, EXCUSE ME.
BUT WE'LL START ADVERTISING THE PLANS THIS, THIS WEDNESDAY.
SO THERE'LL BE PLENTY OF, UH, UH, PUBLICITY TOO, BUT RAY AND JAMIE, I HAVEN'T THOUGHT THIS TRUE, BUT JUST AMENDING THE PLANS AS IT CHANGED THE, ANY OF THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES FOR THE DESIGN OVERLAY, BUT IT MIGHT CREATE A CHANGE FOR THE FUTURE.
YEAH, I JUST WROTE THAT DOWN AS WE WERE SHOWING, SEEING THE MAP.
I WAS LIKE, ITSELF, THE PLAN WON'T CHANGE THE DESIGN OVERLAYS, BUT WE ANTICIPATE ONCE THEY'RE ADOPTED, WHEN THEY IMPLEMENTATION STEPS WOULD BE TO REASSESS.
AND IT MIGHT BE LIKE THE BOUNDARIES MIGHT, THE EDGES MIGHT BE DIFFERENT, RIGHT.
BOUNDARIES COULD CHANGE, DESIGN STANDARDS COULD CHANGE.
WE ANTICIPATE WORK OVER THE NEXT YEAR.
SO YOU MAY BE PART OF A, UH, SYSTEM OR DESIGN OR WHATEVER AS, AS THEY CREEP FORWARD.
I'LL WRITE THAT FOR YOU AND UM, WILL GIVE YOU A FULL BRIEFING TOO.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US AS WE START INTO WE TO MEET WITH YOU, PICK UP THE ANY, ANYTIME MUCH ANYTHING.
IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE, SIR? THAT WAS IT FOR ME.
I WAS JUST LIKE, RUN DOWN AND I THINK WE'VE TAKEN CARE OF ALL OUR BUSINESS.
UH, I GUESS YOU'RE THE, AS THE VICE CHAIR, I GUESS YOU, YOU'VE TAKEN OVER HIS CHAIR.
ARE THERE ANY PENDING APPLICATIONS FOR REVIEW OR ARE THERE ISSUES WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF? UM, THERE MAY BE SOMETHING COMING.
I ANTICIPATE THERE IS PROBABLY TWO WE HAVE IN THE SHORT NEAR FUTURE.
UM, WE WORK, WE'RE WORKING OUT, UM, LOGISTICS AND GETTING THE FINAL APPLICATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'LL BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S SORT OF, UH, HAND IN HAND WITH THOSE APPLICATIONS.
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SO I, I, I THINK I ANTICIPATE, I CAN ONLY THINK OF ONE.I HAVE, I HAVE ANOTHER, ACTUALLY THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR THREE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT THINGS THAT WOULD, DOESN'T, WE DO DO OUR BEST TO, UM, TO GUIDE AND GIVE ADVICE TO THE, UM, THE APPLICANTS AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT THE STANDARDS ARE.
UM, AND THEN THEY MAKE THOSE DECISIONS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANNA COME TO, THEY DON'T FORCE THEIR HAND BY ANY MEAN, BUT THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT.
SO WE TRY AND STEER THEM TOWARDS THE ORDINANCES.
SO COMMENT, NOT EVEN REALLY A SUGGESTION, BUT A COMMENT IF, IF THERE ARE LIKELY TWO OR THREE ITEMS FOR BUSINESS IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT SUMMER IS A DIFFICULT TIME FOR SCHEDULING SCHEDULE SOME MEETINGS AND THE EXTENT, YEAH.
TO THE EXTENT WE CAN PRESCHEDULE.
WHICH WE USUALLY TRY TO DO ON MONDAYS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF THAT DAY IS JUST LIKE REALLY BAD FOR SOMEONE, LET ASHLEY KNOW AND SHE WON'T START WITH MONDAY.
BUT THAT'S TRADITIONALLY WHAT WE USUALLY TRY TO DO IS A MONDAY AROUND 5, 5 30.
AND SO I, I SHOULD HAVE SAID IN MY, MY DAY JOB, I WORK FOR ANOTHER COUNTY.
I WORK FOR LOUISA COUNTY NEXT DOOR.
AND THEY HAVE, WE HAVE BOARD MEETINGS ON MONDAY NIGHTS.
HE'S THE, UM, IS IT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OR WHAT DO YOU ALL CALL YOUR DEPARTMENT? YEAH, SOME PLACES JUST CALL IT PLANNING EVEN THOUGH IT'S REALLY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
SO, SO THOSE WOULD BE, THOSE WOULD BE ISSUES FOR ME EXCEPT FOR JULY WHEN WE WE UP ON, SO ARE THEY THE FIRST MONDAY, THIRD MONDAY? WHAT IS YOUR FIRST? IT'S UH, FIRST AND THIRD.
PROBABLY, UM, MIGHT GONNA GO AHEAD AND MARK ON YEP.
AND I WOULD SAY TO ALSO, TO THE EXTENT WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHINGS COMING UP AND SOMETHING FOLLOWING, WE CAN TRY TO PUT THOSE ON THE SAME.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO.
WANNA RUSH THINGS FOR THIS MEETING.
TRY TO, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THEIR CING FIRST RIGHT? BEFORE THEY WOULD COME HERE OR NO? UH, POTENTIALLY YOU COULD, SINCE THEY'RE A SEPARATE OH, DETERMINATIONS.
USUALLY THEY DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
TYPICALLY THEY, THEY GET APPROVED AND THEN THEY, THEY COME FORWARD.
THIS ONE IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE THAT THERE ARE, UM, UH, OTHER, OTHER ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IMPENDING.
UH, IS IT ON THE PORTION OF THE FLOOD PLAN PLANNING COMMISSION? MM-HMM.
SO IT PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE SOONER THAN JULY AT THIS POINT.
BUT IT'S NOT CURRENTLY ON THE SCHEDULE THEN AS SOON AS WE HAVE HER.
UM, UH, HER COAS PRIOR TO APPROVAL.
SO THAT, THAT IS I THINK THE APPROACH THE, UM, YEAH.
WE'RE STILL KIND OF DIGESTING ALL OF THAT.
ULTIMATELY AFFECTS THE APPLICATION.
HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE FOR CONSIDERATION UNDER, IF WE WERE TO DEFER? CAUSE I, I'LL TELL YOU, THAT WILL BE A SUBJECT OF SOME DISCUSSION TAKING IN ACTION BEFORE, AND WE, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
DOES THAT PUT A HEAVY HAND ON THE BOARD THEN TO LIKE, I KNOW WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THIS APPROVAL PROCESS, BUT, SO RIGHT.
I THINK MAYBE THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
YEAH, I DON'T COMMITTEE EXPLAINING THINGS.
IT'S A, AND I, MY BACKGROUND WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE TRYING TO WORK LOGISTICS OUT, MAKING SURE IT'S DONE PROPERLY.
I MEAN, PERMIT BEFORE THEY RECEIVED APPROVAL.
SO WHY AREN'T THEY GONNA GET CERTIFICATE APPROVAL CONVERSATION
THIS, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE BECAUSE THEY BOTH LIKE ONE'S DEPENDENT ON THE OTHER MM-HMM.
THERE ISN'T A TIME LIMIT HERE.
IT DOES HAVE OUR TRADITIONAL, IF THERE'S A THAIK AND NO OTHER MOTION, IT GETS CARRIED OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING.
SO WE TRY NOT TO HAVE A TY VOTE WITH THREE PEOPLE, BUT IF SOMEONE HAD A CONFLICT, BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE ALTERNATES.
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THEM THE ALTERNATES UP.SO PROBABLY ALWAYS PREVENT THAT SITUATION.
SO I DON'T RECALL EVER HAVING A TIE OR A DEFERRAL.
SO WE USUALLY GET A DECISION, BUT NONE ON THIS PROBABLY WOULD GO TO SOMETHING REASONABLE THAT OKAY, WE'LL WATCH FOR THAT.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY AGAIN, THERE'S SOME MM-HMM.
I'LL PUT THAT ON MY, UM, RESEARCH LIST TIME LIMIT.
AND WE BOTH AGREE THAT WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER.
IT'S NOT LIKE ONE OF US PLEASE.
IT'S EVALUATION AND IT'S CIRCUMSTANTIAL AS TO HOW IT COMMITTED.
SO THERE'S OTHER THINGS INVOLVED, BUT AGAIN, WE'LL KEEP IT UNDER WRAPS UNTIL THE EXACT RATES EMERGE.
LIKE, AND WE'LL HAVE THE ANSWER OF COURSE WHEN THAT COMES FORWARD.
WE CAN'T TELL YOU IT'S IN AN OVERLAY THAT'S, WE CAN'T
WELL, WE'LL JUST STICK POSTED IT.
UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE THAT YOU WANNA BRING UP? NO.
I HAVE NO OTHER BUSINESS MEETING.
THANK YOU FOR COMING AND UM, I WILL GET YOU A COPY.