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I WANNA WELCOME YOU HERE.UH, WE HAVE AS WELL WITH US TONIGHT, UH, MR. ROCKET, CHARLIE, MR. PUCK, AND MR. DUKE FROM OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND WE HAVE, UH, MR. SPOONER FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
WE HAVE MR. LUMPKINS FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UM, MRS. LASETTE AND, UH, MR. VATERS.
WE'RE UNABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT EITHER FOR FAMILY SITUATIONS OR BEING OUT OF TOWN.
SO, AGAIN, WE WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
I'M GONNA INTRODUCE NOW OUR DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MS. UH, CRYSTAL
IT'S PACKED HOUSE, WHICH I GUESS COULD BE ONE OF TWO THINGS, RIGHT? REALLY GOOD, OR KIND OF NOT SO GOOD.
SO, I WANT TO KIND OF GO INTO, UM, TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA WORK ON COVERING.
SO WANNA INTRODUCE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, UM, ACCOMPLISH HERE TONIGHT.
THE PURPOSE OF OUR OPEN HOUSE, THE NEXT STEPS FOR THESE PROPOSED SMALL AREA PLANS, BECAUSE AGAIN, AT THIS TIME, THERE ARE STILL PROPOSED PLANS.
UM, WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM OUR CONSULTANTS, TIM'S GROUP, AND AT THE END, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU ALL AS AUDIENCE MEMBERS TO ASK QUESTIONS OR WORK TO, UM, SORRY, OBTAIN CLARIFICATION ON THESE PROPOSED SMALL AREA PLANS.
SO A LITTLE MORE ON THAT AS TO, SO WHY ARE WE HERE THIS EVENING? SO, THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT IS REALLY TO ENSURE THAT YOU ARE INFORMED AND EDUCATED ON WHAT IS IN THESE PROPOSED PLANS, SO AHEAD OF OUR UPCOMING PUBLIC HEARINGS, THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO COME AS AN INFORMED CITIZEN AND EXPRESS YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
SO, AGAIN, THESE ARE PROPOSED PLANS, AND OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THE CORE POINTS OF THESE PLANS FOR YOU ALL.
AND AGAIN, WE WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE COPIES OF THE PLANS IN THE BACK.
SO WHEN WE ASK WHERE HAVE WE BEEN IN THIS PLANNING PROCESS, IF YOU'VE, UH, BEEN ALONG FOR THE RIDE, IT'S BEEN A LONG RIDE.
UM, ACTUALLY LIKE SIX MONTHS AGO, IT WAS LIKE MY FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING, AND I WAS KIND OF THRUST INTO THIS.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT WE'VE TAKEN AN INTENTIONAL AND DELIBERATE STEP BACK WHERE WE FOUND OURSELVES IN NOVEMBER, END OF NOVEMBER, RIGHT AFTER THANKSGIVING.
WE HAD AN OPEN HOUSE FOR THESE PLANS.
IT WAS NOT REFLECTIVE OF COMMUNITY VALUES.
IT DID NOT ADEQUATELY REFLECT IN ANY WAY THE INPUT WE RECEIVED, AND IT JUST DID NOT RESONATE WITH ANYTHING THAT WAS GUGLIN.
SO WE TOOK THAT TO HEART AS STAFF, AS MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT IT RIGHT.
SO WE TOOK A LITTLE EXTRA TIME, TOOK A STEP BACK, AND TRIED TO PAIR IT DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HIGHLIGHTED THINGS THAT WERE NECESSARY AND APPLICABLE TO GO.
SO IN THAT, I WANNA JUST DISTRESS THAT IN THESE 14 MONTHS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED AS OUR CORE VALUES IS, YOU KNOW, USING PUBLIC INPUT TO CREATE PUBLIC VALUE.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE CORE GOALS OF THIS PLAN, TO BE REFLECTIVE AND REPRESENTATIVE OF GUCCI, AS I'VE MENTIONED, AND TO HAVE REALISTIC, AS WELL AS RELATIVE PLANS THAT HAVE INTENTIONAL AND THOUGHTFUL GROWTH.
SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS.
SO HOW CAN WE HAVE THOUGHTFUL AND INTENTIONAL GROWTH THAT SERVES A PURPOSE FOR GLAND AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW? UH, THIS IS JUST A QUICK SLIDE ON OUR UPCOMING DATES.
WE DO HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE FOR COURTHOUSE LATER THIS WEEK ON THURSDAY, WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS COMING UP WITH OUR PLANNING COMMISSION FOR MAY 22ND FOR COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, MAY 24TH FOR CENTERVILLE.
AND AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUBLIC HEARINGS IN JUNE, UM, ROUGHLY THE SECOND WEEK OF JUNE.
SO IT'S, I WANNA ALSO REALLY STRESS TO YOU ALL THAT THESE PROPOSED PLANS IF ADOPTED IN THE COMING MONTHS AFTER BEING ADOPTED, IF THEY ARE IN JUNE, THEN STAFF WILL BEGIN WORKING ON AMENDMENTS TO CURRENT ZONING ORDINANCES, DESIGN REVIEW GUIDELINES AND REQUIREMENTS.
SO THERE'S NO IMMEDIATE CHANGE THAT COMES FROM THESE PLANS JUST BEING PLANS.
THE REAL MEAT AND POTATOES IS AN ACTION STEPS THAT THEN WILL BE TAKEN AT WITH THE GUIDANCE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD EXPRESSING THAT THEY WANT TO FOLLOW THROUGH, OR THAT THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE DO NEED TO UPDATE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THE PLAN INTO ACTION.
BUT THE PLAN IN OF ITSELF IS A PLAN.
AND SO FOR THAT, NOW I'M GONNA TRANSITION IT OVER TO CHUCK RAPP WITH TIM'S GROUP, AND HE WILL TAKE IT FROM HERE FOR YOU ALL.
OH, YEAH, I WAS GONNA TAKE THAT WITH ME.
UH, FIRST I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY, THANKS EVERYONE FOR TAKING THE TIME THIS EVENING TO COME OUT, UH, TO, TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THESE PLANS, TO PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK, UH, HELP US ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS AND, AND REALLY WORK THROUGH THESE WITH Y'ALL AS A COMMUNITY.
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YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PRESENTATION FOR THIS EVENING.UM, START OFF WITH SOME INTRODUCTIONS TO THE, THE TIM AND SCRIPT TEAM.
WHAT, WHAT, UH, WHAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR FIRM, OUR PROJECT OBJECTIVE, WHAT OUR, WHAT OUR APPROACH WAS, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
UH, ONE THING WE DID, WE CREATED AN INTRODUCTION TO SMALL AREA PLANS.
SO WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THAT, UH, AS, AS WELL.
AND THEN WE'LL DIVE INTO THE DETAILS OF OUR DRAFT CENTERVILLE SMALL AREA PLAN.
UH, AND THEN, THEN TAKE A PAUSE FOR QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE ALL.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TIMMONS, LIKE, UH, CRYSTAL SAID, MY NAME IS CHUCK RAPP.
I'M A SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER WITH TIMMONS.
UH, TIMMONS IS A MULTIER A MULTIDISCIPLINE FIRM.
WE HAVE ENGINEERING, WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, WE HAVE CIVIL ENGINEERS, WE HAVE URBAN PLANNERS, WE HAVE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS, WE HAVE GIS SPECIALISTS.
UH, SO WE REALLY HAVE, HAVE A, A PRETTY WIDE VARIETY OF TALENTS THAT WE PULLED FROM TO PUT THIS TOGETHER AS A TEAM.
WE HAVE SOME OF OUR PLANNERS THAT WORKED ON THIS PLAN HERE THIS EVENING.
UH, AND AGAIN, WE PULLED FROM FOLKS FROM ALL DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS TO TRY AND ADDRESS THE DIFFERENT FACETS OF THIS PLAN.
THIS IS, UH, AN EXAMPLE OF OUR TIMELINE.
I WANTED TO START, UH, WITH, JUST TO KIND OF RECAP THIS LONG PROCESS THAT, THAT CRYSTAL MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING HERE.
THIS PLAN STARTED BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2022.
UM, AND IT INVOLVED A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER INPUT.
THERE WERE COMMUNITY SURVEYS, THERE WERE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THERE WERE ROUND TABLES.
UM, AND, AND WE'RE REALLY COMING IN AT THE TAIL END OF THIS.
IF YOU REMEMBER, WE WERE BROUGHT IN A FEW MONTHS AGO, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR.
AND, AND SO WE, WE REALLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRYING TO ABSORB EVERYTHING THAT, THAT TOOK PLACE OVER THE PAST YEAR.
UH, OUR TEAM SPENT SEVERAL WEEKS JUST DIVING INTO THE COMMUNITY INPUT, READING THROUGH THE SURVEYS, WATCHING THE VIDEOS, READING NOTES, MEETING WITH STAFF, TRYING TO GET A GRASP ON THE COMMUNITY'S, TAKE THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT, UH, ALL THE PROCESSES THAT HAD HAPPENED TO DATE, SO THAT WE MADE SURE TO CAPTURE THAT A AS WE PUT TOGETHER THIS DRAFT PLAN.
SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT OUR APPROACH TO THIS PLAN, UM, BASED ON COMPARED TO THE DRAFT PLANS THAT THE PRIOR CONSULTANT WORKED ON.
SO ONE THING WE WANTED TO DO WAS REALLY ESTABLISH A, A PLAN STRUCTURE THAT WAS EASY TO NAVIGATE SO YOU COULD QUICKLY TURN TO THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THIS PLANS.
SO YOU'LL SEE HERE'S IS A EXAMPLE OF OUR DRAFT TABLE OF CONTENTS.
IT'S ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT THE LAST PLAN WAS LACKING WAS THAT STRUCTURE TO, TO REALLY TIE, TIE INTO THE DIFFERENT TOPICS THAT YOU WANT TO BUILD UPON AS YOU WORK TOWARDS A LAND USE, UH, FUTURE LAND USE MAP.
AND THEN EVENTUALLY BRINGING THAT ALL TOGETHER INTO RECOMMEND THE NEXT STEPS SO THAT THIS REALLY PROVIDES THIS ROADMAP FOR THE COUNTY TO IMPLEMENT OVER TIME.
UH, WE WANTED TO REALLY CAPTURE A, A VISION STATEMENT, YOU KNOW, SOME GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT GUIDE OUR WORK HERE BASED ON THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND THE FEEDBACK FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS THROUGHOUT THE, THAT, THAT PRIOR YEAR BEFORE WE, WE STARTED ON THIS.
UH, AND, AND REALLY MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE DECISIONS AND THE PROPOSED ELEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE PLAN REFLECT THAT VISION STATEMENT AND THOSE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE THIS PLAN CLEAR AND EASY TO FOLLOW.
SO YOU'LL SEE REPEATING MAPS THROUGHOUT THIS PLAN, THE SAME KIND OF MAP LAYERED WITH DIFFERENT MATERIAL AS YOU WORK THROUGH IT.
UH, WE TRY TO TAKE THINGS, UH, INTO, INTO A GRAPHIC FORMAT, SO THAT'S EASY FOR, FOR THE READER TO, TO FOLLOW ALONG.
SO IT'S USING INFOGRAPHICS OR BULLETED POINTS.
WHAT WE WANTED TO TRY TO DO IS GET AWAY FROM LONG, LENGTHY TEXT DESCRIPTIONS, UH, THAT ARE HARD TO FOLLOW AND HARD TO GET THE TAKEAWAYS FROM.
SO IT SHOULD BE VERY EASY TO FIND EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE WE'RE RECOMMENDING AS YOU GO THROUGH THESE PLANS.
AND THE LAST, WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PLANS WERE RELEVANT TO, TO GLAND COUNTY.
THEY WERE, THEY WERE REALISTIC, THEY WERE APPLICABLE, UH, AND THEY REALLY, UH, ACHIEVED THE, THE VISION THAT Y'ALL HAD AS A COMMUNITY.
SO I WANNA TAKE A FEW MINUTES JUST TO TALK ABOUT SMALL AREA PLANS.
WHAT ARE THEY, HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO BE USED, WHAT THEY AREN'T? UM, SO, SO ANY LAND LONG TERM, UH, FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, THIS IS BASICALLY AN APPENDIX TO A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S USUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAILED, A LITTLE MORE OF A FOCUSED AREA.
AND, AND, AND THE IDEA THERE IS, THIS IS A 10 TO 20 YEAR VISION.
SO THIS IS A LONG TERM APPROACH.
UH, IT REALLY, I IDENTIFIES THINGS, UH, OF HOW YOU WANT TO, TO EVOLVE AS A COMMUNITY.
UM, AND IT'S REALLY USED TO GUIDE FUTURES, REZONING DECISIONS, UH, THAT MIGHT COME BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
WHAT IT IS NOT IS, IS A CHANGE TO EXISTING ZONING.
THIS DOES NOT CHANGE ANY EXISTING ZONING ON A PROPERTY.
AGAIN, THIS IS A VISION DOCUMENT.
UH, IT IS NOT A LEGALLY BINDING THING THAT CHANGES WHAT YOU CAN DO ON YOUR PROPERTY AS IT SITS NOW.
IT'S JUST A GUIDE FOR THE FUTURE SO THAT YOU HAVE THIS AS A, AS A ROADMAP TO REFERENCE WHEN SOME OF THESE DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND IT REALLY FOCUSES ON ESTABLISHING THE, THE CHARACTER OF HOW THIS COMMUNITY IS GOING TO EVOLVE OVER TIME.
AND THAT, AND THAT FOCUSES ON THINGS LIKE THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND, AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE, OR PROTECTION OF RESOURCES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.
IT REALLY ALSO ALIGNS THAT DEVELOPMENT SO THAT AS THINGS TAKE PLACE OVER TIME, REDEVELOPMENT HAPPENS, NEW DEVELOPMENTS COME, IT'S DONE IN A WAY THAT RELATES BACK TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN FOR THE LOCALITY, SO THAT YOU HAVE MEASURABLE GROWTH AND, AND INFRASTRUCTURE FOLLOWS THE PACE OF ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES YOUR WAY.
UH, AND THE LAST, IT REALLY ENCOURAGES EFFICIENT USE OF LAND.
SO BY CONCENTRATING DEVELOPMENT INTO A CERTAIN AREA, IT UTILIZES THAT
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EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT EXISTING INVESTMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN MADE.UH, AND IT ALSO HELPS TO PRESERVE THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE REST OF THE COUNTY, SO THAT YOU DO PRESERVE THAT QUALITY, UH, THAT I THINK MOST FOLKS WILL DO IN, IN GOLAND COUNTY FOR, UM, BY, BY CONCENTRATING IT IN A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLANNED, UH, PATTERN FOR GROWTH.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO ALSO IS, IS JUST AT THE START, UH, OF OUR INTRODUCTION CHAPTER, INTRODUCTION TO SMALL AREA PLANS, IS JUST TO PROVIDE SOME REGIONAL CONTEXT, JUST SOME BASIC MAPS TO HELP ORIENT, UH, A, A, A READER WHERE, WHERE THINGS ARE IN THESE MAPS.
SO WHERE IS GUC LIN COUNTY? THIS SHOWS THE RELATIONSHIP TO RICHMOND.
THIS SHOWS THE RELATIONSHIP TO CHARLOTTESVILLE AND THE MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR IS RUNNING THERE.
AND THEN IT ALSO SHOWS WHERE THE, WHERE THE SMALL AREA PLAN, UH, THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE IN THE CENTERVILLE SMALL AREA PLAN BOUNDARIES ARE IN RELATION TO, TO GLAND COUNTY TO HELP UNDERSTAND HOW, HOW THAT FITS TOGETHER.
UH, AS PART OF THE, THIS WHOLE, UH, PLAN FOR THE COUNTY'S FUTURE LAND USE.
WE ALSO TAKE, TOOK A LOOK AT, UH, THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR.
SO WE WANTED TO, TO IDENTIFY WHERE'S TRAFFIC COMING FROM.
UH, THIS WAS DONE IN THE PREVIOUS DRAFTS, BUT IT WAS PRETTY HEAVY.
UH, AND SO WE WANTED TO JUST GRAPHICALLY SHOW WHERE IS THIS TRANSPORTATION COMING FROM? UM, AND SO YOU SEE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC ALONG THE 64 CORRIDOR, UH, SOME TRAFFIC COMING UP, 2 88 AND ROUTE 60, BUT PRIMARILY A LOT OF INWARD AND OUTWARD MIGRATION WITH, UH, FROM RICHMOND TO, PARTICULARLY TO THE CENTERVILLE AREA.
SO IT AFFECTS HOW WE PLAN FOR THESE DIFFERENT AREA, THESE TWO AREAS DIFFERENTLY.
ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT THE, UH, PRIMARY EMPLOYERS THAT ARE IN BOTH OF THESE AREAS.
AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, PRIMARILY PRIVATE SECTOR EMPLOYERS, FOLK, UH, CENTERED AROUND THE CENTERVILLE LOCATION.
UH, AND, AND THAT CERTAINLY HAS A BEARING IN HOW WE WANT TO PLAN FOR, FOR CENTERVILLE LONG TERM.
WHEREAS COURT HILLS HOUSE VILLAGE IS MUCH MORE FOCUSED ON, UH, A LOT OF PUBLIC SECTOR.
YOU HAVE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION OFFICES, YOU HAVE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION OFFICES, YOU HAVE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY, YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE THERE, SO YOU HAVE A BIT OF A DIFFERENT, UH, MAKEUP GOING ON THERE FROM AN EMPLOYMENT PERSPECTIVE.
THE LAST THINGS I REALLY WANTED TO DO, SIFTING THROUGH ALL OF THE PUBLIC INPUT, WAS REALLY TRY TO PULL OUT WHAT ARE SOME OF THE KEY ELEMENTS THAT KEPT POPPING UP IN THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE READ THROUGH, AND THAT, THAT WE DISCUSSED WITH COUNTY STAFF.
AND THAT, THAT WE SAW IN, IN SOME OF THE VIDEOS AND THE SURVEYS, AND REALLY KIND OF CAME AWAY WITH WHAT WE FELT WERE FOUR REPEATING THEMES THAT KEPT POPPING UP.
ONE WAS, WAS, WAS REALLY AN EMPHASIS ON PROMOTING SMALL BUSINESS, CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES IN BOTH OF THESE AREAS.
ANOTHER WAS AN EMPHASIS ON, ON ENSURING, UH, BUILT FORM, UH, IS CONTEXTUALLY SENSITIVE TO THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THAT, THAT ALREADY EXIST HERE, SO THAT WHEN NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES, IT HAS A SIMILAR CHARACTER OR AT LEAST MATCHES WELL WITH WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE HERE AND CONTINUES THAT FORWARD.
UH, A HEAVY EMPHASIS ON PUBLIC SPACE, WALKABLE PUBLIC SPACE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS.
WE'RE INTERCONNECTIVITY, TRYING TO CREATE, CREATE WAYS TO GET SAFELY, UH, MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.
UH, AND THEN LASTLY, PRESERVING THAT COMMUNITY CHARACTER, TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO, TO, TO BRING WHAT'S SPECIAL ABOUT GLAND COUNTY INTO THESE AREAS, TO CREATE, CREATE A SENSE OF IDENTITY, UH, AND ENSURE THAT ISN'T LOST AS DEVELOPMENT TAKES PLACE OVER TIME.
WITH THAT, WE'RE GONNA DIVE INTO THE SPECIFICS ON CENTERVILLE.
AND AS I MENTIONED, WE WANTED TO TO TO TAKE, IDENTIFY SOME, SOME GUIDING PRINCIPLES, SOME VISION ELEMENTS TO HELP US A AS WE WORKED ON THESE DRAFT PLANS.
AND SO HERE WE HAVE FIVE VISION ELEMENTS THAT WE REALLY FOCUSED ON.
YOU'LL SEE THESE START TO COME TO LIFE AS WE TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TOPICS THROUGHOUT THIS PLAN.
THE FIRST ONE FOR CENTERVILLE SPECIFICALLY WAS, WAS PLACEMAKING.
UM, YOU HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALREADY IN CENTERVILLE.
I'M SURE MORE WILL COME, UH, JUST WITH THE INTER, WITH THE INTERCHANGES IN SOME OF THE AREAS THAT YOU HAVE THERE.
SO WE WANNA FIND WAYS TO, TO REALLY CREATE A SENSE OF COMMUNITY, A SENSE OF PLACE WHEN YOU ARRIVE, UH, IN CENTERVILLE, AND REALLY CAPTURE THAT AND ENSURE THAT THAT THAT ISN'T LOST OVER TIME.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES HERE IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, AS WELL AS WITHIN THE CENTERVILLE SMALL AREA PLANNED BOUNDARIES.
SO WE WANNA FIND WAYS TO, TO CAPITALIZE THAT, UH, AND CARRY THAT FORWARD FROM PREVIOUS PLANNING EFFORTS WITH THE COUNTY, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE WANT WELL-PLANNED INFRASTRUCTURE AND SERVICES.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE KEEPS PACE WITH, WITH DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS, SO THAT YOU HAVE THE, THE HIGH LEVEL SERVICES HERE IN THE COUNTY, IN, IN, IN THE SMALL AREA PLAN.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE CERTAINLY HEARD, ESPECIALLY FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SOME, A LOT OF THE PUBLIC INPUT WA, WAS ACCESS TO OUTDOOR RECREATION.
A BIG FOCUS ON GREENWAYS, UH, IN CREATING SOME PARKS AND CENTERVILLE, THERE REALLY IS NOT, UH, A LOT MUCH PUBLIC PARK ACCESS AT ALL.
UH, AND SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT, FOR THE COUNTY TO EXPLORE MOVING FORWARD IN THE LAST, UH, AS I MENTIONED, NATURAL RESOURCE PROTECTION AND GROWTH ABSORPTION, THE ABILITY FOR, FOR THE SMALL AREA TO TO, TO ABSOR SOME GROWTH IN A WELL, UH, PLANNED OUT WAY SO THAT YOU CAN PRESERVE THAT RURAL CHARACTER OF THE, THE REST OF THE COUNTY.
SO WE HAVE HERE IS JUST A BASE MAP, AND I WANNA JUST PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF OUR BASE MAP THAT WE BUILD ON, ON EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT TOPICS.
UM, AND SO ONE THING WE WANTED TO DO HERE, AS I MENTIONED, WAS CREATE SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT'S REALLY EASY TO, TO NAVIGATE IT, YOU CAN QUICKLY ORIENT YOURSELF.
THE MAJOR ROADWAYS ARE LABELED.
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OF INTEREST ARE LABELED, UM, THE BROADVIEW SHOPPING CENTER.YOU, YOU HAVE MANNEQUIN MARKET, YOU HAVE THE FIRE STATION.
SOME, SOME THINGS TO QUICKLY ORIENT YOURSELF AS TO WHERE YOU ARE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE MAPS, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT REPEATED AGAIN.
SO, SO THAT HOPEFULLY THEY, THEY'RE EASY TO NAVIGATE.
ALL RIGHT, SO STARTING WITH TRANSPORTATION, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A BIG EMPHASIS ON TRANSPORTATION THROUGHOUT OUR PLANS, OUR DRAFT PLANS, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A STRONG CONNECTION WITH TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE.
THE TWO REALLY NEED TO BE TIED TOGETHER.
YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE FOR WHEREVER THAT ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT MIGHT BE EXISTING OR IN THE FUTURE TO COME.
SO THE FIRST THING WE DO IS JUST TAKE AN INVENTORY, UH, OF, OF THE ROAD SYSTEMS OF THE SIDEWALKS.
AND SO WE DIVE INTO THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF, OF CLASSIFICATIONS OF ROADWAYS, UH, AND WHERE EXISTING SIDEWALKS ARE, SO THAT WE CAN THEN PLAN FOR HOW THOSE MAY NEED TO BE IMPROVED OVER TIME OR FILLED IN WHERE, WHERE THERE'S SOME MISSING GAPS.
SO WE GO THROUGH EACH OF THE, THE, THE STREET CLASSIFICATIONS THAT EXIST IN THE SMALL AREA PLAN, AND THESE ARE CLASSIFICATIONS THAT THE VDOT, UH, ADOPTS.
AND SO THIS IS CARRYING THAT FORWARD.
SO YOU HAVE HERE, UH, LOCAL STREETS, LOCAL STREETS, THERE'S A LOW CAPACITY, MORE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, AND ONE THING I WILL SAY THROUGHOUT THIS, WE KEPT WITH EITHER EXISTING EXISTING ROADS OR ROADS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED EITHER THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT OR HAVE BEEN PART OF THE COUNTY'S TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
WE DIDN'T CREATE A BUNCH OF NEW ROADS HERE.
THAT WASN'T OUR GOAL WAS TO CREATE SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
SO WE'RE JUST CARRYING THINGS FORWARD THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING OR APPROVED, OR PART OF PLANS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED.
SO WHAT WE DID TOO HERE, UH, YOU'LL SEE WITH EACH OF THESE STREET CATEGORIES IS WE PROVIDE A A TYPICAL SECTION.
UH, AND THIS IS IDEALLY, YOU KNOW, THE THE LOCAL ROAD WHERE YOU WANT TO HAVE SIDEWALKS ON EITHER SIDE AS DEVELOPMENTS COME FORWARD, UM, MAYBE STREET TREES ON THE BACK OF THAT SIDEWALK.
UH, LITTLE LOWER CAPACITY, BUT THAT, AGAIN, PRODU, UH, ENHANCES THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
UM, IT CAN BE USED AS A GUIDE AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMES FORWARD, SO THAT YOU, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK TO AS TO AS TO WHAT TYPE OF STREETS SHOULD BE PROPOSED WITH DEVELOPMENTS OR WHEN OPPORTUNITIES ARISE.
COLLECTOR STREETS ARE, ARE THE NEXT CLASSIFICATION.
IT'S MORE OF A MEDIUM CAPACITY.
AND THIS IS ONE WHERE THERE IS SOME GOOD OPPORTUNITY HERE IN THE, THE CENTERVILLE SMALL AREA TO, TO BRING FORTH SOME OF THESE COLLECTOR STREETS TO CREATE THAT SECONDARY ROAD NETWORK SO THAT ALL TRAFFIC ISN'T FUNNELED OUT ONTO ONE ROAD.
AND IT KIND OF CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL TO TO, TO CREATE THAT MULTIMODAL COMPONENT WHERE YOU COULD POTENTIALLY INCORPORATE BIKE LANES, UH, WITHIN THE ROADWAY, SIDEWALKS AND TREELINE STREETS, AND START TO KIND OF CREATE, AGAIN, THAT SENSE OF PLACE THAT I MENTIONED THAT WE CAN START TO BRING FORTH HERE.
UM, AND THERE'S SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES THERE TO MAYBE SEPARATE SOME OF THE MIXED USE AREAS FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITH STREETS LIKE THIS, UH, HEIGHT AND THEN ARTERIAL ROADS.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE TWO, TWO MAIN ROADS HERE IN, IN, IN CENTERVILLE, UM, BROAD STREET AS WELL AS ASHLAND.
UH, AND THESE ARE LARGER ROADS.
MOVING TRAFFIC IS REALLY THE MAIN GOAL OF THESE ROADS.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OFTEN FOUR LANE ROADS LIKE WE HAVE AT BROAD STREET.
UM, AND IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY OF THESE TYPE OF ROADS TO CREATE A MULTI-USE PATH, SEPARATE, UH, BICYCLISTS OR PEDESTRIANS FROM THAT ROADWAY.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE KIND OF SHOW HERE IN THIS STREET SECTION, IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER DO A SIDEWALK OR A MULTI-USE PATH ALONG THAT ROADWAY AND CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF SAFETY, UH, FOR, FOR THAT MULTIMODAL COMPONENT.
NOW HERE, WE, ONE THING WE WANTED TO DO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE WALKING AROUND, UH, CENTERVILLE AT THE TIMES WE'RE HERE IS TRYING TO FIND OPPORTUNITIES.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE FOUND OURSELF OFTENTIMES WALKING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
THERE WEREN'T, THERE WASN'T SIDEWALKS, AND CERTAINLY WOULD SAY THAT IT, IT IS ALL INTIMIDATING TO TRY AND CROSS BROAD STREET.
THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC THAT'S MOVING FAST.
SO WANTED TO JUST PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT, UH, A CROSSWALK.
AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT'S CALLED A MID, MID-BLOCK CROSSING.
UH, WHEN YOU'RE CROSSING FIVE LANES OF TRAFFIC, YOU WANNA HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A, A PEDESTRIAN REFUGE ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE, RECOGNIZING IT'S PRETTY HARD TO GO ACROSS ALL FIVE LANES IN ONE, ONE APPROACH.
SO THIS JUST SHOWS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT COULD BE, AND THAT'S WHERE SOMETHING WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COUNTY TO, AND THEIR TRANSPORTATION PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO KIND OF EXPLORE THAT, UH, AND FIND OPPORTUNITIES WHEN THEY ARISE, OR IN COMBINATION WITH DEVELOPMENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT THIS, UH, ILLUSTRATION SHOWS IS THIS IDEA OF, OF TRYING TO, TO CREATE THAT SENSE OF PLACE AND SOMETHING UNIQUE AS WELL.
UH, BY, YOU KNOW, ONE THING, THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME EXISTING HORSE FENCE, UH, ON ONE SIDE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE BRA, UH, THE SHOPPING CENTER THERE.
AND SO WE THOUGHT WE COULD REPEAT THAT ELEMENT.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THERE CERTAINLY IS A LOT OF EQUESTRIAN FARMS IN GLAND COUNTY, SO WE THOUGHT MAYBE THAT'S A WAY TO KIND OF BRING SOME OF, SOME OF THE PLACEMAKING ELEMENTS, UH, THAT, THAT COMMUNITY CHARACTER INTO THE STREET SCAPE HERE.
SO WE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SHOWING AN IDEA OF A HORSE FENCE WITH A NICE SHRUB ROW JUST TO KIND OF CREATE THAT, THAT, THAT SOFTER ENVIRONMENT THERE.
AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF INTEREST IN GREENWAYS, UH, CONNECTIVITY.
THERE'S SOME GREAT STREAM CORRIDORS, UH, ACTUALLY ON EITHER SIDE OF BROAD STREET THAT RUN THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND STUFF.
THOSE ARE OFTEN GREAT OPPORTUNITIES TO INCORPORATE GREENWAY TRAILS INTERCONNECT NEIGHBORHOODS TO, TO CERTAIN PLACES.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PROVIDE SOME, SOME DESCRIPTIONS AND, AND, AND SOME INFORMATION ON THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF GREENWAY TRAILS THAT YOU OFTEN SEE.
THOSE ARE TYPICALLY ALONG ROADWAYS WHERE YOU HAVE THE MULTI-USE PATH UP AGAINST THE ROADWAY,
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AS I SHOWED IN THE PREVIOUS IMAGE.UH, YOU HAVE TRAILS WHICH ARE OFTEN NATURAL SURFACE, CRUSHED STONE, RUNNING ALONG A STREAM CORRIDOR.
AND THEN WHEN YOU WANNA GET INTO MORE OF A, OF A WET AREA, YOU WANNA DO A RAISE BOARDWALK FOR A, TO PROTECT THAT, THAT ECOSYSTEM.
AND SO THEN THIS IS AGAIN, THE, THESE, THESE OPTIONS SO THAT AS OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES, DEVELOPMENTS COME FORWARD, UH, IN THE CENTERVILLE AREA, YOU CAN KIND OF PICK AND CHOOSE AND IDENTIFY THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR THAT SCENARIO.
SO WHAT WE DID, WE BROUGHT ALL OF THAT TOGETHER IN ONE COMPREHENSIVE MAP.
SO THIS MAP SHOWS THE PROPOSED COLLECTOR STREETS, THE LOCAL STREETS, THE GREENWAYS, THE MULTI-USE PATHS, THE SIDEWALKS TO CREATE THIS INTERCONNECTED NETWORK, UH, OF TRANSPORTATION THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
AND THIS WILL REALLY HELP TO COMPLETE THAT SO THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS OF GETTING AROUND MULTIPLE MODES OF TRAFFIC.
AND IT CAN BE USED AS A GUIDE, AGAIN, AS THINGS COME FORWARD, AS OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
AS I MENTIONED, WE ALSO, A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UH, ACCESS TO, TO RECREATION, TO OPEN SPACE.
UH, IT WAS DISCUSSED WHEN WE MET WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL, THAT THERE REALLY WASN'T AN OPTION HERE.
SO, UH, WE'RE PROPOSING TWO KIND OF OPTIONS HERE ON THE, ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE, WHERE YOU HAVE MORE OF THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S SOME GREAT STREAM CORRIDORS, THOSE THAT'D BE GREAT FOR GREENWAYS.
AND THOSE ARE OFTENTIMES, UH, PERFECT OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPLORE, UH, PARK SPACES, WHETHER THEY'RE AN OPEN FLOODPLAIN OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE'RE NOT SPECIFYING ANY PARTICULAR LOCATION HERE, WE'RE JUST ENCOURAGING THE COUNTY TO LOOK FOR THAT AS AND EXPLORE THAT IN TIME TO HOPEFULLY, UH, PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR OUTDOOR RECREATION FOR RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY AS DEVELOPMENTS COME FORWARD AND RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS ARE, ARE DEVELOPED ON THE NORTHERN SIDE, UH, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE, UH, EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE NOTICED IS, UH, THERE THERE'S REALLY NOT, NOT A GREAT, UH, OPPORTUNITY TO WALK AROUND.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT MANY SIDEWALKS ON THE INTERNAL STREETS.
UH, PEOPLE ARE REALLY COMMUTING THERE.
YOU'RE GETTING OUTTA YOUR CAR, YOU'RE SHOPPING, YOU'RE GETTING BACK IN YOUR CAR, AND YOU'RE DRIVING AWAY.
SO WE THOUGHT A, A GREAT SENSE, A GREAT SENSE OF PLACE, IT'D BE TO CREATE A SMALL KIND OF PLAZA.
AND SO WHETHER THAT'S JUST SOME SMALL SEATING, UH, A LITTLE PLAYGROUND, SOME LITTLE WALKING PATHS, JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GATHER, UH, IN A PLACE TO KIND OF MEET AS A COMMUNITY WHILE YOU'RE SHOPPING IN A WAY, WAY TO, TO GET TOGETHER AND TO SEE OTHER PEOPLE, UH, AND MAYBE STAY A LITTLE LONGER.
UH, AND THAT KIND OF TIES INTO SOME OF THE OTHER IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU'LL SEE AS WELL FOR THAT AREA.
UM, ALSO WANTED TO ADDRESS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
WE THINK THERE'S SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES HERE AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, KIND OF ALONG THAT PARKS AND RECREATION VEIN, UH, THERE'S THE BOGIE SPORTS PARK HAS SOME GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN IT RIGHT NOW.
AND MAYBE I WOULD RECOMMEND THE COUNTY EXPLORE WAYS TO CREATE, UH, MAKE THAT MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, UM, AND REALLY, REALLY CAPITALIZE ON, ON THAT EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S HERE AS WELL AS MANNEQUIN MARKET.
UM, WHETHER IT IT'S IN MANNEQUIN TOWN, IF IT MOVES FORWARD, OR A NEW LOCATION, A FARMER'S MARKET IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A COMMUNITY ASSET.
WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE, THE COUNTY TO FIND A, A PERMANENT HOME FOR THAT AS WELL.
AND, AND TO HELP STRENGTHEN THAT.
SO NOW WE'LL GET INTO THE TOPIC THAT I'M SURE MOST OF Y'ALL ARE MORE INTERESTED IN, WHICH IS LAND USE.
UH, THIS IS OUR DRAFT LAND USE MAP, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THESE IN A LITTLE BIT OF DETAIL HERE TONIGHT.
UH, AND, UH, ONE THING THAT, THAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO AT LEAST EMPHASIZE IS, IS OUR GOAL HERE WAS, WAS TO SIMPLIFY THIS AS WELL.
THE PREVIOUS DRAFT HAD, I BELIEVE, 11 DIFFERENT CATEGORIES OF LAND USE.
UH, OVERLAYS ARE, ARE MORE OF A ZONING REGULATION.
SO WHILE THERE MAY BE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO EXPLORE OVERLAYS, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THEY DON'T BELONG ON A LAND USE MAP, UH, THAT WOULD BE DONE THROUGH A ZONING ORDINANCE CUZ IT'S MORE OF A REGULATORY TOOL.
UH, AND SO YOU'LL SEE HERE WE KEPT A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE SIMILAR LAND USE APPROACHES, UH, BUT JUST SIMPLIFIED AND WE'LL GET INTO EACH ONE AS I WALK THROUGH THEM HERE.
SO STARTING WITH, UH, THE MIXED USE CORE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS REALLY WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT, A LOT OF EXISTING COMMERCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE, THE, THE, THE SH UH, BROADVIEW SHOPPING CENTER, UM, WANTED TO, TO IDENTIFY THAT REALLY AS THIS WALKABLE TOWN CENTER.
AND SO HOW DO WE DO THAT? WE INCORPORATE SOME ADDITIONAL USES, UH, WHETHER THAT BE RETAIL, UH, SERVICE OFFICE OR RESIDENTIAL TO KIND OF CREATE THAT MIXTURE.
UM, AND THEN, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE HERE THIS BUILDING DIAGRAM.
THIS IS NOT MEANT, I'LL JUST SAY THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE ARCHITECTURE OF THESE AREAS.
THIS IS REALLY JUST A MASSING DIAGRAM TO SHOW HOW BUILDINGS SHOULD BE ORIENTED ON A SITE, MAYBE HOW TALL THEY SHOULD BE.
SO WE FELT THREE STORIES THAT MATCHES WHAT, WHAT WAS PROPOSED IN MANNEQUIN TOWN AND, AND KIND OF THE, THE HEIGHT OF A, UH, YOU KNOW, A TYPICAL GROCERY STORE AND SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S OUT THERE.
SO IT FELT IT MATCHED ON THIS SIDE.
AND WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING IS THOSE LARGER SETBACKS ON BROAD STREET, WHERE, WHERE YOU REALLY HAVE THAT HIGHER COM HIGHER TRAFFIC, UH, YOU'RE NOT REALLY GONNA HAVE THAT STOREFRONT FEEL.
BUT ON THE THE REVERSE SIDE, YOU'LL SEE WE, WE HAVE A DIAGRAM THERE OF, UM, WHAT WOULD BE A SIDEWALK AND, AND, AND BRINGING THAT BUILDING CLOSER TO THE ROADWAY THERE SO THAT YOU DO KIND OF CREATE THAT STOREFRONT FEEL.
UH, AND MAYBE YOU CREATE THAT, THAT THAT SMALLER, UH, ENGAGING ATMOSPHERE, THAT PEDESTRIAN REALM ON THE BACKSIDE OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
CURRENTLY WHEN YOU WALK THROUGH THERE, YOU'RE KIND OF SEEING THE BACK OF ALL THE BUILDINGS AND IT'S NOT REALLY, SO IT'S NOT VERY APPROACHABLE.
UM, AND SO WE THINK THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF REALLY CENTER
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SOMETHING AROUND THE SHOPPING CENTERS IN THE 60 INFRASTRUCTURE BY PROVIDING SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, PEDESTRIAN EXPERIENCES, WINDOW SHOPPING TYPE FEEL ON, ON THOSE INTERNAL ROADS.UM, AND TO KIND OF FURTHER THAT SHOW AN EXAMPLE OF, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THAT CENTRAL, UH, COMMERCIAL CORE THERE, THIS IS JUST A, A QUICK, UH, DIAGRAM THAT WE CREATED THAT SHOWS THAT LARGER SETBACK ON BROAD STREETE, WHICH MATCHES THE PATTERN OUT THERE.
YOU HAVE ENHANCED LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS ALREADY IN YOUR ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO THIS JUST BUILDS ON THAT AND HONORS THAT.
BUT AGAIN, IT BRI BRINGS THE, THE, UH, POTENTIAL BUILDING CLOSER TO THAT INTERNAL ROADWAY NETWORK WITH SIDEWALKS ON IT.
UM, AND THEN HERE IS WHERE WE HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE AT A CORNER.
THAT'S WHERE WE ENCOURAGE THOSE PLACEMAKING ELEMENTS, WHETHER IT'S A SMALL FOUNTAIN OR IT'S A SIGN OR JUST A SMALL LITTLE SEATING PLAZA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU WANT TO ENCOURAGE, UH, THAT TYPE OF INCORPORATION INTO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT SO THAT YOU DO HAVE SOME UNIQUE ELEMENTS THAT HELP TO CAPTURE, UH, THE ESSENCE OF THIS AREA.
ALL RIGHT, GOING ACROSS BROAD STREET, UH, ONE THING WE WOULD ACKNOWLEDGE IS THE BROAD STREET IS WHAT IT IS.
IT DOES BISECT THE SMALL AREA PLAN.
UH, AND SO THE TWO AREAS WE FELT NEEDED TO BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY, UH, ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF BROAD STREET, YOU HAVE REALLY A TRANSITION TO RESIDENTIAL BEHIND IT.
YOU HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO WE WANTED TO TREAT THIS AREA DIFFERENTLY.
SO YOU'LL SEE IN THESE DIAGRAMS WE HAVE A SIMILAR APPROACH AS FAR AS SETBACKS GO TO BROAD STREET, TRYING TO CREATE THAT, THOSE, THOSE INTERNAL ROADWAYS ON THE BACKSIDE, MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN REALM THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THE, TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS OR FUTURE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
BUT THE BUILDINGS ARE OF A SMALLER SCALE IN THIS TRANSITIONAL AREA.
IT HONORS WHAT'S ALONG BROAD STREET NOW ALLOWS SOME ADDITIONAL USES, WHETHER THAT BE, YOU KNOW, MORE RETAIL SERVICE OFFICE OR MAYBE SMALL SCALE RESIDENTIAL ON A SECOND FLOOR.
UM, SO YOU COULD KIND OF HAVE THAT, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LARGE APARTMENT BUILDINGS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT HOPEFULLY THAT THAT WOULD RELATE BETTER TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL USES BEHIND IT.
UM, AND AGAIN, PROVIDE THOSE CONNECTIONS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE.
NEXT WE'LL GO INTO MIXED USE COMMERCIAL.
SO YOU DO HAVE MAJOR INTERCHANGES IN THIS SMALL AREA, UH, BOUNDARY.
AND SO OFTENTIMES, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE, THIS IS WHERE WE SEE THINGS LIKE, UH, USES FOR COMMUNITY, UH, ACCESS TO GOODS AND SERVICES.
THESE ARE OFTEN AUTO CENTRIC WHERE YOU ARE DRIVING THERE, YOU'RE GETTING OUT OF YOUR CAR, YOU'RE GETTING IN IT, YOU'RE GETTING BACK ON THE HIGHWAY, YOU'RE GETTING OFF THE HIGHWAY.
UM, IT'S REALLY WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF MOVEMENT FROM AN AUTOMOBILE PERSPECTIVE.
SO YOU, WHERE YOU MAY HAVE SOME LARGER BUILDINGS HERE, UH, AS YOU SEE IN THE DIAGRAM, WE ENCOURAGE THOSE TO BE SETBACKS SIGNIFICANTLY FURTHER FROM THE ROADWAY.
UH, WE ALSO WOULD SAY IF YOU DO HAVE SOMETHING THAT GOES UP TO A FOURTH STORY, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD RECOMMEND A STEP BACK.
A STEP BACK IS WHERE YOU JUST PUSH THAT TOP FLOOR BACK SO THAT YOU AVOID THAT CANYON EFFECT, UH, AND BRING THOSE BUILDINGS DOWN TO SCALE A LITTLE BIT.
WITH THAT STEP BACK, ALSO MENTIONED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THIS AREA HAS A LOT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL AND WE'RE REALLY CARRYING THIS IDEA FORWARD FROM PREVIOUS PLANS THAT THE COUNTY HAD IN PLACE AND RECOMMENDING, UH, ADDITIONAL STUDIES HERE.
SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LAND IS REALLY FOCUSED ON LARGE SCALE EMPLOYMENT, HIGH CONCENTRATION OF JOBS.
UM, AND, AND THIS IS WHERE WE RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNTY, UH, BEGIN DEVELOPMENT OF A STRATEGIC BUSINESS PLAN TO TARGET THOSE SPECIFIC INDUSTRIES OF WHAT FITS SCOOCH AND WHAT IS THE DESIRED BUSINESSES OUT THERE MOVING FORWARD TO THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND YOU'LL SEE KIND OF A PATTERN HERE.
SO WE HAVE, OOPS, SORRY, THE COMMERCIAL CORE, UM, RIGHT IN THE CENTER THERE.
AND AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY OUT TO THE EDGES OF THE SMALLER AREA PLAN, THE INTENSITY OF THE USE USES SHOULD GRADIATE DOWN SO THAT IT BLENDS ALL THE WAY DOWN TOWARDS YOU GET TO THE RURAL AREA OUTSIDE OF THE VILLAGE.
SO, UM, KIND OF WRAPPING AROUND SOME OF THE COMMERCIAL CORE IS THIS NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL THAT'S MORE WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE HOUSES A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE STREET FOCUSED ON A SIDEWALK, MAYBE SOME SHARED AMENITY SPACES, UH, TWO TO FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT QUARTER ACRE, A HALF ACRE LOTS, UM, NOTHING MUCH MORE THAN THAT, BUT IT DOES, IT DOES PROVIDE A LITTLE BETTER, UH, RELATIONSHIP TO A MIXED USE AREA.
UM, AND THEN A GOOD TRANSITION TO THE NEXT CATEGORY, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH MOST PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IS THE LARGER HOME SITES, LARGER SETBACKS, UM, MORE OF YOUR, YOUR TRADITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AS YOU SEE A COUPLE OF ILLUSTRATION, A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF THOSE TYPES OF HOUSES THERE, UH, LESS THAN TWO UNITS PER ACRE.
SO IT'S A GOOD TRANSITION INTO THAT RURAL AREA AS YOU GET TO THE EDGE OF THE BOUNDARY THERE.
SO WHAT WE ALSO WANTED TO DO WITH RESIDENTIAL FORM WAS PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE, SOME, SOME SOME BUILDING DIAGRAMS HERE OF WHAT THOSE TYPES OF BUILDINGS, UH, WOULD BE AND WHERE THEY MIGHT FIT IN THESE DIFFERENT ZONES.
SO YOU HAVE ILLUSTRATION THERE FOR TOWN HOMES, YOU'RE ATTACHED UNITS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MAYBE FOUR IN A ROW OR, OR HOWEVER MANY THAT, UH, ARE ALLOWED THROUGH THAT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S APPROVED.
UM, AND THOSE ARE AGAIN, UH, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY.
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GRADE IN THE MIXED USE CORE IN THE MIXED USE TRANSITION AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD RE RESIDENTIAL.AND YOU SEE WE PUT THOSE AS A SECONDARY USE IN THE MIXED USE COMMERCIAL.
UM, CAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO LEAVE THAT MIXED USE COMMERCIAL FOR COMMERCIAL USES, UH, AS, AS IT'S THE MOST VIABLE OPTION OUT THERE.
BUT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE AS A SECONDARY USE DUPLEX UNITS.
UM, AGAIN, REALLY MAINLY JUST APPROPRIATE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SLIGHTLY, SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY, UM, AND FITS KIND OF THAT SMALL, THAT MORE INTEGRATED NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL.
SINGLE FAMILY CLUSTER LOTS WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE, UH, SLIGHTLY SMALLER LOTS THOSE QUARTER ACRE LOTS, THOSE HALF ACRE LOTS.
OFTENTIMES YOU HAVE SHARED AMENITY SPACES AS I MENTIONED.
UM, AND THOSE W WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IF IT WAS ON A LARGER LOT SIZE AND THAT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
SO YOU HAVE TO SCALE IT TO THE, TO THE CORRECT ZONE.
AND THE LAST IS THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS REALLY JUST THAT, THAT LAST CATEGORY OF THE LARGER LOT SIZE, UH, THAN MOST PEOPLE ARE MORE FAMILIAR WITH.
ANOTHER THING I WANTED TO DO IS TIE THIS TO SOME LAND USE REGULATORY CONTROLS THAT WOULD HELP TO ACHIEVE THIS VISION.
AND SO WHAT THIS, THIS CHART DOES, I'M NOT GONNA READ THROUGH IT, BUT IT IDENTIFIES WHAT THE INTENT OF THESE DIFFERENT LAND USE ZONES ARE.
UM, AND THEN IDENTIFIES THE TYPE OF USES THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND WITHIN IT, WHETHER THEY'RE PRIMARY USE OR SECONDARY USE.
THE SECONDARY USE IS, UH, UH, IS BASICALLY SUPPORTIVE OF A PRIMARY USE.
SO THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU COULD HAVE IF THAT'S ALL YOU HAD.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE TIED IT TO THE EXISTING ZONING DESIGNATION IN YOUR ZONING CATEGORIES HERE, UH, IN GLAND COUNTY.
AND SOME OF THOSE DO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.
UH, THAT'S WHERE YOU SEE THAT THIRD BULLET THERE.
ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS WHERE, WHERE, WHERE MAYBE THE MIXED USE RIGHT NOW THERE'S A MIXED USE P U D AND IT'S A VERY LARGE SCALE P U D.
SO IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE SOME SMALLER MIXED USE INFILL IN SOME OF THAT EXISTING COMMERCIAL AREAS, YOU WOULD NEED TO ADJUST THAT ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO AGAIN, THEY'RE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR A COUNTY TO FOLLOW AS UH, WHEN THEY CHOOSE.
UH, OTHER OTHERS, UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, DESIGN STANDARDS FURTHERING SOME OF THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS START TO ADDRESS THE BUILDING FORM SO THAT YOU DO GET INTO SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OF BUILDING DESIGN, WINDOW PLACEMENT HEIGHTS, UH, AND SOME OF THOSE, THOSE, ONCE THOSE THINGS ARE CODIFIED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THEY HAVE A LOT MORE TEETH.
UM, AS A LAND USE PLAN LIKE THIS, THEY, IT'S REALLY JUST A GUIDE.
SO YOU, THAT'S THAT NEXT STEP THAT WAS MENTIONED THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN TO BRING THAT FORWARD.
SAME WITH ENTRANCE CORRIDOR OVERLAYS.
RIGHT NOW THERE ARE SOME, SOME OVERLAYS ALONG THE CORRIDORS, BUT THEY CERTAINLY COULD BE STRENGTHENED TO AGAIN, START TO ADDRESS BUILDING FORM AT A MORE, MORE DETAILED LEVEL AS WELL AS SOME OF THOSE LANDSCAPING CONTROLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THEN TOWARDS THE END OF THE PLAN, WE, WE BRING EVERYTHING TOGETHER.
WE PULL OUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM EACH OF THESE SECTIONS INTO, UH, A MATRIX FOR RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS.
UH, SO THE COUNTY HAS A ROADMAP TO FOLLOW AND CAN PICK THESE, UH, DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AND IMPLEMENT THEM OVER TIME.
SO HOPEFULLY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN COME BACK TO IN A FEW YEARS AND, AND I HOPE HOPEFULLY SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE CHECKED OFF.
SOME OF THIS HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.
SO YOU CONTINUE TO WORK YOUR WAY THROUGH HERE AS YOU'RE DOING, UH, ROUTINE REVIEWS OF YOUR LAND USE DOCUMENTS.
AND THEN WITH THAT, UH, AS MENTIONED, JUST, UH, I KNOW WAS TOUCHED ON EARLIER, JUST WANTED TO TOUCH BASE ON UPCOMING DATES.
UH, TWO EVENINGS FROM NOW WE'LL BE GOING OVER TO THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE MASTER PLAN, THEN WE'LL HAVE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, THE NEXT WEEK IN MAY.
AND THEN IN MID-JUNE WE WILL BE COMING BACK FOR BOARD SUPERVISORS PUBLIC HEARINGS AS COLLECTION.
SO WITH THAT, I BELIEVE WE ARE GONNA PAUSE FOR QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU.
SO BEFORE WE GET TO QUESTIONS, WE'RE GONNA FIRST WORK THROUGH THE VOTES THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO, UM, HAVE QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATION ON THE PLAN.
AND THEN WE WILL TRY TO, UH, WORK THROUGH THE AUDIENCE AS TIME PERMIT.
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MS, UH, JAMIE SHERRY, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THAT PART.
AND WE, UM, STAFF AS WELL AS TENDONS WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
SO OUR FIRST, UH, SPEAKER THIS EVENING IS MR. PRATT, ROBERT PRATT.
CAN YOU, UM, IDENTIFY YOURSELF AND WE CAN HAND YOU THE MICROPHONE? YEAH, FROM WHAT I, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN Y'ALL LOOK FORWARD, IT LOOKS, LOOKS VERY GOOD.
I THINK TO BE ABLE TO, TO HAVE, UH, RESIDENTIAL ALONG WITH MIXED USE IN A WELL DESIGNED WAY WITH, WITH NICE HOUSES IS A GREAT WAY TO GO AND PARKS.
HI, UM, LEMME START WITH THE POSITIVES.
UM, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS.
I THINK THE POSITIVES, THE FORMAT IS EASIER TO READ AND TO FOLLOW.
UM, THE FUTURE VISION STATEMENT I THINK DOES CAPTURE, UH, FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES AND I THINK THE EMPHASIS ON THE TRANSPORTATION STREETS, GATES, TRAFFIC, CALMING AND GREENWAYS IS, IS WELL DONE.
SO I THINK POSITIVE, UM, I HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT MAY HELP ADDRESS SOME OF MY MOST SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS, BUT I HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR US.
UM, CAN YOU PLEASE RECONCILE THE INTRO
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CHAPTER IMAGES WITH THE MIXED USE IMAGES BECAUSE ON THE INTRO CHAPTER AS PART OF THE VISION, THEY LOOK VERY RESIDENTIAL, VERY SMALL SCALE.I KNOW ON THE, UM, MIXED USE COURT IMAGES YOU IN THE POINT THAT THEY WERE JUST AT PLACEHOLDERS, BUT THEY'RE DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT.
SO MY QUESTION ON THAT IS GOING TO BE AS THIS PLAN BECOMES IN THE FINAL PRESENTATION, WILL YOU UPDATE THE IMAGES TO RECONCILE THE TWO? CAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T RECONCILE AT ALL.
AND I'M HAPPY TO, IF YOU WANNA BRING THEM UP LATER, WE CAN POINT THAT OUT JUST TO SURE, YEAH.
AT THE BEGINNING YOU DID AN INTRO SLIDE, SO BACK, BACK UP.
OKAY, SO THAT'S YOUR INTRO SLIDE.
THAT DOESN'T LOOK AT ALL, IF YOU GO FAST FORWARD TO THE MIXED USE CORE SLIDE, IT'S LIKE NIGHT AND DAY.
SO THESE ARE PERFECT AND I'M CURIOUS WHY THEY ARE SO DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT.
SO THESE ARE REPRESENTATIVE IMAGES, I KNOW THAT, BUT, BUT YOU'RE REPRESENTING, THIS IS PART OF A COMMUNITY GOAL MM-HMM.
WELL, AND I CAN SPEAK TO IT ACTUALLY.
SO IN, IN IN THE COURTHOUSE VI IN THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, UH, PLAN, WE ARE RECOMMENDING JUST TWO STORIES IN, IN THE HISTORIC AREA.
SO THIS, THIS, THIS COMMUNITY GOAL IS FOR COURTHOUSE VILLAGE MOUNT CENTERVILLE.
SO THE WAY THE INTRODUCTION SECTION, IT COULD BE ADDRESSED FOR BOTH SMALL AREA PLANS CUZ IT'S JUST, IT IS JUST AS A WHOLE AND IT COULD ALSO BE FOR FUTURE SMALL AREA PLANS.
IT'S REALLY JUST A INTRODUCTION TO TO TO GLAND COUNTY TO TO WHAT SMALL AREA PLANS ARE.
PLAN BECOMES A VERY, SORRY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT TO GUIDE BUT PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY LOOK AT IT AND THEY POINT TO IT CERTAIN.
SO IF THE GOAL IS TO HAVE A VISUAL ORIENTATION TO INTENTIONS AND TO UH, THE VISION STATEMENT AND YOU LOOK AT THIS, I THINK THIS MAY BE MORE REFLECTIVE OF COMMUNITY INPUT TO DATE.
THE OTHER ONE WITH THE BIG INS BROOK STYLE, YOU KNOW, WEST BIG PARK STYLE BUILDINGS.
SO I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE RECONCILED.
I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT QUESTION CLARIFIED.
UM, ALSO I NOTICED ON THE MIXED USE, UH, CORE SLIDE IN THE PRESENTATION DRAFT THAT YOU PUT ON THE WEBSITE, CURRENTLY THE INTENT SECTION HAS BEEN CHANGED AND HERE YOU, YOU'VE MADE SOME POSITIVE IMPROVEMENTS.
I ALSO, IF YOU GO TO
UM, THE INTENT THERE, YOU, THAT IS A DIFFERENT INTENT THAN I THINK IT'S ON THE WEBSITE CUZ ON THE WEBSITE FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE LODGING.
WE DON'T WANT LODGING IN AN EXCUSE COURT.
NOBODY WANTS TO HAVE A HOTEL ON MANNEQUIN ROAD.
YOU KNOW, JUST TO KIND OF NET THAT.
SO IF THAT'S THE INTENT, I THINK THAT'S A BETTER INTENT.
BUT WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE WEBSITE AT THIS AFTERNOON IS DIFFERENT THAN THAT SINCE THE WORD LODGING.
UM, SO THOSE ARE MY, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
UM, IN TERMS OF SPECIFIC RECOMMENDATIONS, I THINK THAT, UM, IT DOES, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE CORE ON, SORRY, THE OVERALL LAND USE, NOW THE PROPOSED FUTURE LAND USE MAP REALLY DOESN'T CONSIDER TRANS TRANSITION SPACE BETWEEN MIXED USE CORE AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL WESTERN NORTH OF, UH, MANNEQUIN ROAD.
SO IF YOU SEE SYCAMORE CREEK, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL TO THE LEFT, YOU'VE GOT SOME OTHER SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ABOVE IT.
IT'S A VERY ABRUPT RED RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE.
SO YOU COULD HAVE THEORY BASED ON WHAT WE GO IS A THREE-STORY BUILDING THAT WOULD ADJOIN ANY OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
UM, SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT YOU, YOU MAYBE USE A MIXED USE AT THE CORNER OF BROAD IN MANNEQUINS MIXED USE TRANSITIONAL YEAH.
LIKE YOU'VE DONE SOUTH ABROAD.
AND I ALSO THINK LIKE YOU'VE DONE SOUTH ABROAD, YOU KNOW, TO MAYBE HAVE UM, A, A TRANSITION, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU HAVE THE EXISTING FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED RESIDENTIAL AS KIND OF THAT BUFFER.
YOU GO FROM RED TO ORANGE TO BEIGE TO, IT'S JUST A TRANSITION THAT NORTH BROAD ON THE RESIDENTIAL AREA SPECIFICALLY IS VERY CONCERNING.
ONE, IT JUST, IT'S A VERY ABRUPT CHANGE.
AND YOU MENTIONED ZERO TO NO SETBACKS IN SOMEWHERE IN YOUR DOCUMENTATION IN THE RED.
AND I THINK THAT'S CONCERNING WHERE IT A NEIGHBORHOOD, EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS IN PARTICULAR.
UM, SURE MICHAEL, I MENTIONED THE, THE USED CORE ILLUSTRATIONS ALREADY, SO I WON'T GO BACK.
UM, BUT YOU DO HAVE A, A HUMAN SCALE.
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT WORDS, YOU HAVE THAT SMALL TOWN FEEL WHERE YOU'VE GOT FROM ALL THE SURVEYS AND WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR.
UM, BUT AGAIN, LODGING AND, AND NO SETBACKS DOESN'T ALIGN WITH THAT.
AND SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU UPDATE THE ILLUSTRATIONS, INCORPORATE MORE SMALL SKILL DESIGN ELEMENTS AND AND LIMIT LODGING TO PROPOSE MIXED USE COMMERCIAL AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS LIKE WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW.
UM, AND I ALSO THINK BUFFERS NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.
AND LASTLY, I THINK THAT THE TIMELINE, UM, YOU'RE RIGHT THAT IT HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS, BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING TONIGHT IS A MAIN USE MAP SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT'S FAIRLY DIFFERENT, SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE
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SEEN TODAY.AND I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GOING NEXT WEEK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL AND REALLY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FULLY DIGEST THIS BEFORE.
IT FEELS A LITTLE LIKE IT'S BEING RAMMED THROUGH, UH, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
SO I THINK WE'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE CHANGES AND HOPEFULLY IT'LL GET MORE OF TONIGHT BEYOND ME INCORPORATE INTO THIS THEN GO TO THE CLINIC COMMISSION AND THEN PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD SUPERVISORS IN A MORE THOUGHTFUL WAY.
CAUSE WE HAVE HAD A VERY THOUGHTFUL PROCESS TODAY.
THIS NOW AT THIS POINT WITH THIS SIGNIFICANT CHANGE THAT WAS SEEN TONIGHT FEELS LIKE IT'S BEING RAN THROUGH AND THAT JUST DOESN'T FEEL GOOD.
UM, SO TO SUMMARIZE, I JUST WOULD SAY THAT, UM, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THE, THE PLAN WAS SEEN TONIGHT.
IT PERTAINS TO THE LAND USE MAP AND THE MIXED USE CORE SPECIFICALLY.
I DON'T THINK IT REFLECTS THE COMMUNITY INPUT AND VALUES IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS, BUT YOU'VE TIED IN SOME OF THE GREEN SPACE AND SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THAT DOES.
SO
I WOULD SAY THAT'S SOMEWHAT A MISREPRESENTATION AT THIS POINT IN THE PROCESS.
I KNOW I'VE ATTENDED ALL THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS, I'VE REVIEWED ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I CAN SAY IT WITH CONFIDENCE THAT A LOT OF THINGS, PARTICULARLY IN THAT LAND USE MAP AND HOW YOU'RE DEFINING THE USE OF MIS USE FOR DOESN'T REFLECT THAT.
UM, AND UM, AT THIS POINT I JUST WOULD BE DISAPPOINTED IF WE GO THIS FAST TRACK, UH, AND THAT THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES TRYING TO DIMINISH OUR PLAN WOULD ULTIMATELY DIMINISH OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE INTENT, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD FEEL LIKE.
THANK YOU MR. OH, IT IS, IS THIS ON? THANK YOU MR. COSTELLO.
THE NEXT SPEAKER, NEXT SPEAKER IS SCOTT TASER.
UH, SCOTT GAER, UH, NICE TO MEET YOU.
UM, WE'VE WANTED TO GET TOGETHER WITH STAFF AND, AND WITH YOU TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE CHANGES AND WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVEN'T BEEN INCLUDED.
SO JUST TO SAY, FIRST OF ALL, CUZ YOU INHERITED THIS POSITION, UM, WE HAVE NOT MET WITH ANYONE ON THE PROPERTY SOUTH ABROAD OR ON MANNEQUIN TOWN AND WE HAVE REQUESTED TO ON MANY TIMES, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR, UM, YOUR PLAN AND I THINK IT WOULD'VE BEEN A LOT BETTER IF WE COULD HAVE GIVEN YOU INPUT PRIOR.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO WRITE THINGS DOWN AND DELIVER 'EM TO THE COUNTY, BUT WE WERE NEVER ABLE TO MEET.
AND LIKE MR. COSTELLO, THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME IN 30 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A COMPETENT CHANGE WHERE I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING ME NOW.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE MAJORITY OF WHAT YOU LAID OUT IS REALLY GOOD, BUT IT WAS BASED ON AN OLD MAP AND YOU SAID YOU HAD A 20 YEAR PLAN.
I'VE A MANNEQUIN TOWN FOR 20 YEARS AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET IT APPROVED.
AND SO WHAT YOU'VE DESIGNED HERE IS A LOT FOR 20 YEARS, BUT THE MOST CONCERNING TO ME KIND OF GOES TO THE CORE.
I REALLY WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE CORE MOVED.
IT WAS SOUTH ABROAD, IT WAS NORTH ABROAD.
IT WAS, IT WAS A BIG PART OF THE M P U D ORDINANCE.
IN FACT, UM, I LOOKED UP THE ORDINANCE AND IT'S DESCRIBED IN THE ORDINANCE AS EXACTLY BETWEEN MANNEQUIN AND HOCKETT, NORTH AND SOUTH ABROAD.
SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT COMPELLED YOU BECAUSE I'VE BEEN, I WAS BORN IN RICHMOND.
UH, YOU KNOW, I I'VE BEEN ON BROAD STREET MY WHOLE LIFE.
WHEN I DRIVE UP AND DOWN IT, UM, IT'S PRETTY MUCH, THERE'S A MIXTURE OF USES.
SO WE WERE GOING IN A DIRECTION OF MIXED USE AND WHAT I SEE HERE IS A GREAT SEPARATION OF UNION OF USES.
AND SO WHAT BOTHERS ME IS THAT I THINK THE PEOPLE SOUTH ABROAD WHO ARE ALL MEMBERS OF THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT, NONE OF THEM IN THAT ORANGE THAT HAS CHANGED FROM CORE TO MIXED USE TRANSITION.
AND WHEN YOU READ THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT ORDINANCE, IT SAYS THAT IN ORDER TO GET OUT OF THE VILLAGE, YOU'VE GOTTA APPLY.
OKAY? BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THE COUNTY CAN TAKE YOU OUTTA THE VILLAGE.
IT ALSO SAYS THAT THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT IS A VERY VALUABLE ASSET TO THE COUNTY.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD DIMINISH THOSE VALUES.
SO I BELIEVE BY TAKING THE SOUTH OF BROAD STREET OUT OF THE CORE, WHICH HAS BEEN IN FOR SEVEN YEARS, THAT YOU'RE DIMINISHING THE VALUE OF THE TUCK HILL CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT.
SECOND OF ALL, UH, I HAD TO GET A LETTER FROM THE COUNTY BECAUSE I SAW IT GOING IN THIS DIRECTION AND I GOT A LETTER FROM MISS ANITA BARNES, BLESS HER HEART, UM, WHERE WE POINTED OUT TO THE COUNTY THAT
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ALL THAT PROPERTY SOUTH BROAD IS OWN BUSINESS HAS BEEN SINCE 1969 PREVIOUSLY.AND SO AGAIN, MY QUESTION IS THE SOUTH ABROAD HAS BEEN IN THE CORE, IT'S BEEN BUSINESS OWNED, IT'S HAD, UM, BENELL BURTON'S STORE, IT'S A SMITH GENERAL STORE.
WHAT IS IT THAT TOOK IT OUT OF THE POOL? SO I'M ABSOLUTLY HAPPY TO TALK TO OUR PROCESS.
SO I MEAN, IS THERE A REASON THAT YEAH, LIKE NORTH AND SOUTH ABROAD WOULD BE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, I DON'T SEE IT.
THERE WAS SO, SO OURS WAS BASED ON, ON UH, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO RELATE TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF A RELATIONSHIP TO THAT VERSUS THE PRIOR COMMENT, WHICH WAS A STARK THREE STORY UP AGAINST A RESIDENTIAL HOME.
SO WE TRIED TO KIND OF CREATE THAT TRANSITION 200 WHERE, WHERE IT WOULD EXIST THAT I DEVELOPED.
AND SO I UNDERSTAND WE RECOVER FROM, BUT OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS WE'VE TRIED TO CREATE A VILLAGE CERTAINLY.
AND IT FEELS LIKE THAT VILLAGE HAS BEEN VIBRANT ME.
AND SO I JUST WANT YOU TO HEAR IT.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT REALLY FOR YOU TO ANSWER, IT'S REALLY FOR EVERYONE TO PICK UP.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ENOUGH PUBLIC INVOLVEMENT AND ESPECIALLY FROM THE PEOPLE SOUTH OF BROAD ESPECIALLY.
I GOT CALLS TONIGHT FROM EVERYONE IN ARCH, SO KIUS, JAMES RIVER, UM, MAYLAND MAK UP THE ROAD.
GOT GOTTA GIVE IT BACK, MR. OH YOU SIGNED THROW YOU GOT YOUR CHANCE.
I'M THEN THE, THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CREE CARTER.
HOW ARE YOU? HI, GOOD EVENING.
WE ARE THE LOVELY LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS SQUASHED IN THERE AND I'M TIRED OF EVERYONE TRYING TO ATTACK US.
FIRST OF ALL, THEY DECIDED WE WANTED TO HAVE GOODWILL AND WE FOUGHT AND WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE PEOPLE LISTENED TO WHAT WE HAD TO SAY.
WHEN YOU SAY THAT YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND ENHANCE AND AFFECT THE WITH CHARACTER WHEN YOU GET OFF OF 2 88, 1 OF OUR BIGGEST STATEMENTS WE'VE MADE IS LIKE, DO YOU WANNA GET OFF OF BROAD STREET, TURN RIGHT AND GO TO SHORT PUMP AND SEE EVERYTHING YOU COULD POSSIBLY OR THE LEFT
IF YOU LOOK IN TWO MILES ZONE OF THIS VERY SPOT, YOU WILL FIND MORE MEDICAL, MORE HIGH END AND YOU CAN SPRING THEM OUT.
SO TAKE THAT LOVELY LITTLE PLACE THAT WE CALL BELLEVUE GARDENS AND MAKE IT ALL AROUND BELLEVUE.
AND WE ALL TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC.
ANYONE EVER BEEN OUT THERE UNDER TRAFFIC? THERE'S A LITTLE CODE AT THE END OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU GO ACROSS THAT YOU ARE PLAYING BROADER.
LITERALLY WHEN YOU GET OUT THERE, PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO CUT THE LIGHT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT IN LINE TO GO ON 2 88.
SO THEY SKIP AROUND THAT AND COME TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY SING ON PAST IT.
IT'S GOTTEN TO BE A VERY DANGEROUS INTERCHANGE ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN A HEART CENTER.
AND WE WERE AT THAT DEVELOPMENT CONFERENCE TO TALK ABOUT IT AND THE FIRST THING WE MENTIONED WAS TRAFFIC.
WHEN HAS BEEN THE LAST STUDY OF HOW MUCH TRAFFIC IS THERE NOW I KNOW IT'S NOT.
PLEASE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOISE AT NIGHTTIME.
WE CAN HEAR THE TRUCK GRINDING THEIR GEARS COMING ACROSS 64, HEADING UP TO 2 88.
WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT NOISE REDUCTION PANELS.
WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT A BURN AROUND OUR BAG OF NEIGHBORHOOD.
ANYTHING TO PROTECT THE VALUE AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE HAVE OFFERED GOLAND COUNTY.
IT'S NOT JUST GOLAND COUNTY OFFERING TO US.
WE STARTED THIS COUNTY AND WE WANT TO STAY HERE, BUT YOU'RE DRIVING US CRAZY WITH THESE NEW PLANS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND SAY INTENTIONAL THOUGHT OR GROWTH.
WE DON'T WANNA SEE IT FOR STORY BUILDING, EVEN WITH A SETBACK IN FRONT OF US.
WE DON'T WANNA SEE A CAR DEALERSHIP WHEN DANCING SUCKS TO ENTERTAIN THEIR LATEST SALES.
WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE MEDICAL PARK YOU PUT THERE, THE MEDICAL PARKS THAT ARE ALL AROUND.
MAYBE WHEN YOU GET OFF OF THE INTERSTATE AT 2 88, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND SAY THIS IS A STATEMENT THAT'S LING FLIP
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BACK TO THAT LOVELY GREEN SPACE.FLIP BACK TO SOME OF THOSE PRETTY THINGS YOU'VE ACTUALLY PRESENTED.
NEXT SPEAKER IS ROB WILLIAMS, SON BOB, BOB WILLIAMSON.
UH, I DO, UH, WANT TO SAY THAT I AGREE WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE THAT IT'S BEEN REPACKAGED WELL AND UH, WE LIKE THAT.
AND A LOT OF THINGS ARE SIMPLE, BUT SOME OF THE DETAILS ARE, UH, A LITTLE MYSTERIOUS.
THE PREVIOUS CONSULTANT HAD A BREAKDOWN OF MULTIPLE ZONINGS WITH COMPARABLE DENSITIES AND A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK ABOUT IT BEING A LOT LIKE SHORT PUMP WAS BASED ON THOSE HIGH DENSITIES.
CURRENTLY RESIDENTIAL RPD, A HIGH DENSITY IS, IS TWO 2.5 PER AC, 2.5, 2.5.
AND THE CURRENT MIXED USE IS SIX UNITS PER ACRE.
NOW WE WORKED REALLY HARD ON, UH, MANNEQUIN TOWN AND TOHO BRIDGE AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD PRODUCT OUTTA THAT WITH, WITH UH, R P U D IN A, IN A CURRENTLY MEDIUM USE AREA, WHICH IS ONE UNIT PER ACRE.
NOW NOTICE ON YOUR MAP, THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER, THERE'S 136 ACRES THAT ARE ZONING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL.
I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THE FIRST FOUR THAT YOU HAVE.
MIXED USE, MIXED USE TRANSITION COMMERCIAL AND NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL ALL INCLUDE TOWN OWNERS.
WELL, THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ON DON'T MAKE THIS SHORT PUMP, YOU DON'T WANT A MAJORITY OF THIS MAP TO REFLECT TOWN HUNTERS.
THAT, THAT'S ONE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE WITH IT.
SO I THINK WE HAD A GOOD PRODUCT WITH THE CURRENT MIXED USE, THE M V U D AT SIX.
AND WHAT I DON'T SEE HERE IS A GOOD TRANSITION FROM WHAT WE HAVE NOW WITH THE 2.5 RPU U D AND THE SIX IN M P U D AND THE SINGLE FAMILY.
THERE'S A REFERENCE IN HERE THAT IT'S TWO TO FOUR, I MEAN, THAT FOUR ALMOST DOUBLES THE CURRENT 2.5.
SO THERE NEEDS TO BE, I THINK, M P U D STANDARD NOW.
THERE NEEDS TO BE A COMPELLING ARGUMENT WHY THESE OTHER ZONES WOULD NEED TO EXCEED SIX.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RIGHT NUMBER IS.
THAT'S GONNA BE FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE CLINIC COMMISSION TERMINAL, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE CLOSER TO SIX THAN 16 AS THE PREVIOUS CONSULTANT AND, UH, SHARED WITH US IN, IN THEIR PRESENTATIONS.
UH, THAT WAS THE LAST OF OUR SPEAKERS THAT SIGNED UP.
I DO WANT TO, UH, GIVE OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, ADDITIONAL PEOPLE TO JUST RAISE YOUR HAND AS SEE MISS, UH, MOORE HERE.
UH, WE DO, UH, WANNA RESPECT EVERYBODY'S TIME, SO KIND OF KEEP IT TO AROUND THREE MINUTES AND THEN, UH, YOU COULD ALWAYS COME BACK AND, AND, AND TALK AGAIN.
I CHAIR MOST OF THE PEOPLE IN HERE.
UH, ALL, ALL OF THE PEOPLE IN HERE, EVEN MR. GAZER.
UM, ALL OF THE YEARS I HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE OVER 42 YEARS NOW.
UM, I'VE SEEN THE GROWTH TO WHERE, UH, ROCKVILLE AND IN, UM, NOW WE ARE NO LONGER IN ROCKVILLE.
WERE IN MANNEQUIN SABBATH, UM, HAS MORPHED INTO SOMETHING THAT IS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR WHAT WE CONSIDER RURAL.
WE HAVE WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY AND HARD WITH, WITH, UM, DEVELOPERS, UM, TO, UH, GET THEM DOWN TO TO, UH, HERE WITH A COMP PLAN.
THIS WILL REALLY CHANGE THE COMP PLAN SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND WHAT THE REASON WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPERS IS BECAUSE THE FOUNDATION WAS THE COMPLIMENT.
EVEN THOUGH IT IS A GUIDE, IT IS, IT IS A GOOD GUIDE, UM, TO LAND USE THAT IS SUPPORTED BY THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN YOU HEAR, UH, UH, DO GARDENS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HERE, A LOT OF 'EM SINCE BIRTH.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T MOVE OUT OF GLAND ONE ONCE WE GET HERE, YOU KNOW? UH, SO I, I, I HAVE APPLAUD THESE, THIS NEW FORMAT BECAUSE NOW I CAN UNDERSTAND IT
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AND, AND THAT'S PART OF WHEN PEOPLE COME TO ME WITH QUESTIONS.I TRY TO GET ANSWERS, BUT IF I CAN'T UNDERSTAND IT, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW I RELAY THAT TO, UM, THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY.
LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A GREAT, UM, WAY TO GET THE WORD OUT.
UM, HI, UM, I JUST WANNA KNOW ANYBODY ON THE COUNTY COMMISSION HAS ACTUALLY DRIVEN TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS ON WINDFIELD ROAD UP BY ROUTE 16.
IT IS BEAUTIFULLY DONE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF ANY OF THE DEVELOPERS HAVE SEEN THAT.
I WOULD BE SO PROUD TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT THAT LOOKED LIKE THAT IN THIS AREA.
HI, MY NAME'S LAN AND I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD PULL THE TRAFFIC MAP BACK UP YOU HAD AT THE VERY BEGINNING AND EXPLAIN THAT TO ME AT VERY, YOU WANT THE ONE WITH PROPOSED OR EXISTED, THE ONE THAT WAS SHOWN WHERE THE TRAFFIC GOES.
IF, MAYBE, IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE MORE TO ME.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY I'M DONE THIS UNLESS I'M MISSING SOMETHING.
WIND UP MEASURES IS AT ZERO PERCENTAGE, THIS CHART LOOKS DIFFERENT.
IT LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN THE YEAH, SOMETHING'S GOING ON WITH THE WAY IT HAS COME THROUGH ON THE POWERPOINT.
UH, IT DOESN'T SHOW THAT I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE DRAFT PLAN IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, BUT BECAUSE IT, YEAH, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE DRAFT'S GONNA EVENTUALLY MAKE PEOPLE'S DECISIONS.
I DON'T THINK HE'S VERY SOUND.
THAT'S NOT WHAT IT SAYS IN THE DRAFT PLAN TO BE 10.
ITS, I'M NOT, YEAH, IT'S SOMETHING THE WAY THIS PROJECTOR SAM QUARTERS, BUT THERE IS, THERE YOU GO.
2 88 GOING THROUGH GATES WOULD BE MORE THAN 5%.
THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE WHEN YOU GOT 2 88 GOING THROUGH GATES, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY'S EVER GOT ON 2 88 IN HERE, BUT IT'S GOTTEN HUGE.
YOU'RE SAYING THE TRAFFIC IS FIVE? WELL, SO THAT, THAT IS JUST PULLED OFF OF VDO TRAFFIC DATA.
SO THEY HAVE TRAFFIC ACCOUNTS.
SOMEBODY'S MAKING A PLAN OFF OF ALL THIS.
THAT ONE WAS THE 10, I BELIEVE.
OTHER ONE WAS, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT FIVE STATISTICS DRIVE EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT.
I'M DRIVING TRANSPORTATION MANAGER FOR THE COUNTY.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO SAY 15% SOMETHING WITH THE GRAPHIC TRANSLATION FROM THE COMPUTER UP HERE.
DIDN'T QUITE, UM, DID I TURN AS WELL? IT DOESN'T WORK.
AND AGAIN THAT, THAT DATA IS PULLED DIRECTLY FROM VDOT TRAFFIC COUNTS.
I'VE BEEN WATCHING THAT 2 88 CARBON TRAFFIC ON THERE NOW.
IT'S GOT A HUGE BIGGER IN 64 I THINK, ON ALMOST, OR IT'S LIKE AN EXTENSION OF 64.
SO ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT.
SO DIDN'T WANT ANY, I KNOW HOW STATISTICS CAN, CAN GET THE GOVERNMENT SOMEBODY UP AT THE TOP THAT JUST GOES BY STATISTICS DON'T, DON'T SEE WHAT'S ANYTHING ELSE.
UH, WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME.
SO, UM, WHEN YOU DO SPEAK, IF YOU COULD SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE, UH, I KNOW WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH OUR MICROPHONE, SO THE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF A BACK AND FORTH, BUT JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF FOLKS AT HOME, UH, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO, UH, HEAR EVERYONE.
UM, JUST A QUESTION I DON'T WANNA ASK SACRED A NAME IS, BUT HAS ANY DISCUSSION BEEN TAKEN PLACE TO CHANGE THE NAME FROM CENTERVILLE TO LIKE MANNEQUIN VILLAGE OR
UH, WE DID HAVE SOME, WE DID HAVE SOME DISCUSSION INITIALLY AND UH, THE, THERE WAS GREAT INTEREST IN RETAINING THE NAMES.
I'VE WORKED FOR THE COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT BACK FROM THE EARLY EIGHTIES AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE CONFERENCE PLAN AND THE VILLAGE CONCEPT, WHICH WAS BEAUTIFUL.
THE PROBLEM BACK THEN IS WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE SHORT POWER.
THE SHORT PUMP IS SORT OF THE DOMINO FALLING ON CENTERVILLE.
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AND MY PROBLEM IS TWO THINGS, TRAFFIC AND TRASH.IF YOU DON'T ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC WHEN YOU DO THIS CONFERENCE OF PLANNING, YOU'RE GONNA FAIL MISERABLY.
AND IF YOU DON'T INCORPORATE INTO THE CENTERVILLE PLAN WHAT'S GOING ON NORTH OF ASHLAND ROAD NORTH OF 64, YOU'RE GONNA BE IN TROUBLE BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC ON ASHLAND ROAD IS HORRIBLE.
THE TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH CENTERVILLE IS NOT GREAT.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOME SORT OF A TRAFFIC PATTERN TO DEAL WITH ALL THAT, AND YOU TRY TO DO IT IN ARREARS, YOU'RE GONNA FAIL THIS.
SO THINK ABOUT IT AND JUST DO IT RIGHT.
I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
JUST REALLY THINK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, BECAUSE IF THE TRAFFIC IS BAD, IT'S GONNA FAIL.
SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY 2 CENTS, BUT I REALLY THINK YOU REALLY THINK NEED OF CONSIDERATION WHAT'S GOING ON ON ASHLAND ROAD NORTH 64.
SO I WILL ADDRESS THE, UM, THE TRAFFIC ON ASHLEY ROAD.
SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE HOPING TO RECEIVE FULL FUNDING ON AN INTERCHANGE SOLUTION AT ASHLAND ROAD AT 64, WHICH WILL REALLY CLEAR UP THAT NORTH OR SOUTHBOUND NORTH OF 64, UH, BACKLOG THAT WE SEE IN BOTH THE AM AND THE PM WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING ON DOING? IT'S, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS FOR A DIVERGENT DIAMOND INTERCHANGE, WHICH WOULD PUT YOU ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE.
SO WE'RE GONNA BUILD A SECOND BRIDGE MOUNT SIDE MOUNT ZION.
YEAH, SO IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO, UM, ZION'S CROSSROADS CROSSROAD, THAT'S, THAT'S THE INTENT THERE.
AND, AND, AND THE INTENT WITH THAT INTERCHANGE DESIGN IS TO FACILITATE A LOT OF THAT INDUSTRIAL TRACK.
YOU GO TO FOUR LANE OR SIX LANE ROAD, IT'S THE, THE PLAN RIGHT NOW IS THE FOUR LANE JUST IN THE VICINITY OF THE INTERCHANGE.
AND THEN AS MORE DEVELOPMENT COMES ALONG, THE FRONTAGE SUCH AS PROJECT ROCKY, WE CAN'T HEAR, OH, SORRY, I, I APOLOGIZE.
UM, AS DEVELOPMENT COMES MUCH LIKE PROJECT ROCKY, WE'RE GOING TO BE, UH, EXPECTING DEVELOPMENT TO EXPAND ASHLEY ROAD TO FOUR LANES.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT YOU ACTUALLY DID A TRAFFIC COUNT? RIGHT THERE ON 64 AT THE BELLEVUE GARDENS INTERCHANGE? SO FOR TRAFFIC COUNTS RIGHT AT BELLEVUE GARDENS, UH, WE DO MAKE PRETTY MUCH EVERY MAJOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT STUDY TRAFFIC.
THE, UM, MEDICAL OFFICE FACILITY THAT YOU REFERENCED GOING ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS BROAD STREET, DID HAVE TO STUDY THAT TRAFFIC.
I DON'T HAVE THE DATA DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I'M HAPPY TO LOOK THAT UP AND PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION.
PLEASE DO MR. MY NAME IS GEORGE.
UH, I WANNA THANK Y'ALL FOR, LOOK EVERYBODY FOR THE WORK THAT HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
IT'S NICE TO SEE IT DEVELOP, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT.
UH, ONE CONCERN I HAVE IS I HAPPEN TO NOTICED, UH, SOME INFORMATION ON THE ROAD.
ASH ASHLEY ROAD PROJECT REALIGNMENT OF ROAD, AND THIS IS ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE DEALING WITH THE ROAD ASH PROJECT.
AND WHAT IT SAYS HERE IS THERE IS A, APPARENTLY SOME INTENT TO DO AWAY WITH THE CURRENT STOPLIGHT RIGHT THERE WHERE HOCKETT ROAD MEETS BROAD STREET CONTINUES ON ACROSS ST.
AND TO MAKE THAT, UH, RIGHT TURN LANE ONLY COME OUTTA POCKET AND YOU COME EVERY SOUTH THANK TO MAKE IT A RIGHT TURN ONLY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, UH, WHY THAT WOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED, UH, FOR ALL THE PEOPLE BACK IN, IN RITA'S BRANCH AND ALL BACK THERE FOR THEM NOT TO BE ABLE TO GO STRAIGHT ACROSS AND JUST MAKE A LEFT TURN AND GO INTO UP, UH, BROAD STREET OR KEEP STRAIGHT ACROSS AND GO TO THE FOOD LINE SHOPPING CENTER AND SHOP OVER THERE.
AND WHY, WHY THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN AND, AND COME ACROSS A REALIGNMENT ROAD DOWN TO ASHTON, THEN MAKE A LEFT TURN.
WE'LL GO BACK BEHIND WHERE
NOW I KNOW THIS IS, UH, NOT ONLY THE AGENDA, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME THAT ALL THE PEOPLE IN HERE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THIS.
AND I, I'VE NEVER KNOWN OF ANOTHER SITUATION, UH, FROM BROAD STREET FROM DOWNTOWN RICHMOND ALL THE WAY UP HERE WHERE SOUTH LAKE HAS BEEN ELIMINATED IN AN INTERCHANGE AND YOU MAKE A RIGHT TURN OUT ONLY.
UH, AND, AND I WOULD, I KNOW YOU DON'T HAVE THE ANSWERS NOW, BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY LIKE SOME ANSWERS ON THAT.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE COUNTY AND THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT WOULD BE CREATING AN UNREASONABLY DANGEROUS SITUATION BY DOING THAT FOR TRAFFIC.
UM, SO I APPRECIATE YOU HEARING ME OUTTA ALL THAT AND LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING WITH YOU ABOUT IT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK, SIR.
AND I WILL ABSOLUTELY SAY THAT THE
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COUNTY AS A WHOLE HAS VERY EMERGING AND COMPLEX TRANSPORTATION NEEDS, UM, GIVEN THE LIMITED CONNECTOR ROADS AND JUST THE INTERCHANGES THAT WE FIND OURSELVES WITH.BUT I WILL SAY THAT STAFF WILL STICK AROUND AFTERWARDS TO ANSWER SPECIFIC TRANSPORTATION QUESTIONS OR TAKE INFORMATION AND FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.
WE'RE REALLY HERE AND WANTING TO HEAR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE ABOUT OUR PROPOSED PLANS THOUGHTS, ESPECIALLY AS WE HEAD INTO PUBLIC HEARINGS COMING UP.
SO AGAIN, UM, STAFF WILL BE STICKING AROUND FOR, UH, ONE-OFF QUESTIONS ON THINGS THAT ARE RELATED OR INDIRECTLY RELATED TO THESE PLANS.
BUT AGAIN, WANTING TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS, UM, ESPECIALLY WHILE WE HAVE OUR CONSULTANT HERE FOR ANY CLARIFICATION OR SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
SO WITH THAT, CHECKING TO SEE IF WE'VE GOT ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
AND I DO APOLOGIZE FOR THE TEMPERATURE IN THE ROOM.
WE DID NOT DO THAT INTENTIONALLY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE AIR CONDITIONER, SO MAYBE WE'LL GET A, YOU KNOW, NICE LITTLE, UH, KUDOS, UH, BONUS RENTAL FOR NEXT TIME.
UM, BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
ONE MOMENT PLEASE LET US, UM, MR. CASH WILL BRING YOU A MICROPHONE.
UM, I'D LIKE TO FIND OUT FIRST OFF, WHAT COMMITMENTS WE HAVE FOR LAND TO USE FOR ROADS.
WE HAVE NOTHING BUT CENTERVILLE WITH BROAD STREET COMING THROUGH.
WE HAVE NO ALTERNATE ROADS TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF MANNEQUIN ROAD.
AND YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THE VILLAGE AND TRANSFORM IT BY ADDING MORE TRAFFIC, BUT YOU'RE NOT SOLVING THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND YOU FIRST NEED TO START OUT WITH DECIDING WHERE THE ROADS ARE GONNA BE PURCHASED, THE PROPERTY, IF NOTHING MORE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
WE'VE BEEN DUMPED ON AS THE CASH COW OF THE COUNTY AND WITH 15% SUPPOSEDLY OF THE COUNTY GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.
IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S ALL RIGHT HERE IN CENTERVILLE AND YOU HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING FOR THE ROADS.
WE'RE TAKING CARE OF A TRAFFIC PROBLEM DOWN AT BUTLAND COURTHOUSE AREA WITH 5 22 AND FAIRGROUND ROAD AND WHERE IT COMES TOGETHER, 5 22 IS A BASIC NORTH SOUTH HIGHWAY AND WE'VE GOT A DISASTER THAT'S BEING PUT TOGETHER WHERE TRUCKS CAN'T EVEN GET THROUGH THERE WITHOUT BLOWING TIRES.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND TRY AND INCREASE THE TRAFFIC HERE IN CENTERVILLE.
AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN ADDRESSED ANY OF THE TRAFFIC.
WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AND SAYING 70%, 70% OF WHAT IS 70% OF HOW BIG A NUMBER, WHERE ARE WE GOING WITH THIS? HOW ARE WE GETTING THEM THROUGH THE TOWN? WE'RE NOT MAKING SENSE WHEN WE DON'T PLAN ROADS AHEAD OF TIME.
YOU HAVE TO DECIDE WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE ROADS AND THEN YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT'S GONNA BE.
YOU CAN'T PUT A BUSINESS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE ROADS.
WE'VE GOT SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE NOT ASKED QUESTIONS YET, SO LET'S GET TO THEM.
UM, FIRST I SAW TWO HANDS COME UP OVER HERE.
UH, ONE OF THE WEAKNESSES OF THE PREVIOUS PLAN WAS THERE WAS NO INDICATION OF HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE EVENTUALLY GOING TO LIVE INSIDE AIRPLANE.
NOW I REALIZE THIS IS WAY LOWER.
IT APPEARS THAT YOU'RE GOING FROM SIX STORY BUILDINGS TO THREE, MAYBE TWO, DEPENDING ON WHAT PICTURE YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
BUT UM, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE GIVEN THESE DEAD CITIES ARE GONNA LIVE HERE.
AND THAT FEEDS INTO, OF COURSE, WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN JUST WAS SAYING ABOUT TRAFFIC.
HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY KNOW, UM, WHAT ROADS YOU NEED IF YOU HAVE NO CLUE? AND IT WOULD SEEM TO BE A VERY BASIC THING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE AS PART OF YOUR PLANET.
AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU TOUCHED ON THAT.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS IS, IS THIS IS THE FOUNDATION ALMOST AS YOU THINK OF IT FOR A HOME.
AND BASED ON THE RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS THAT WE HAVE, WE'LL CONTINUE TO BUILD TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX.
SO ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IS UPDATING OUR MASTER TRANSPORTATION PLAN, ALSO LOOKING AT A MULTIMODAL AND CONNECTIVITY PLAN.
UM, WE'RE CONTINUALLY IDENTIFYING TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR EVOLVING NEEDS.
SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN A HOLISTIC FASHION.
THIS IS JUST PRIMARILY LOOKING AT, AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL, UM, JUST LIKE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S A HIGH LEVEL DOCUMENT AND THEN EVERYTHING THEN IS A SECONDARY PIECE OF THAT.
SO WE ARE WORKING TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND I WILL SAY THAT REGARDS TO THE POPULATION PIECE AND OR THE DEVELOPMENT PIECE WITHIN THE PLAN ITSELF, THERE
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IS A MAP THAT'S BEEN GENERATED BY COUNTY STAFF, ACTUALLY OUR GIS, UM, MANAGER, MR. WORLEY, THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS THE CURRENT BUILDOUT AND WHAT IS STILL AVAILABLE FOR BUILDOUT FOR BOTH COURTHOUSE AND CENTERVILLE.AND THAT IS IN THE PLANS THAT ARE ONLINE.
AND WE HAVE HARD COPIES IN THE BACK TO LOOK AT THIS EVENING.
UM, REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT.
BUT I REMEMBER YOU IN A MEETING SAYING THAT THERE WERE 2049 PEOPLE WITHIN THE CENTERVILLE AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
I SUPPOSE THAT WAS THE CENSUS OR SOMETHING ALONG ALONG THOSE LINES.
ONE OF THE WORKING MEETINGS AND I DID A BACK OF THE ENVELOPE.
YES, BASED ON YOUR, UH, HALF A SQUARE MILE OF CORE, WHICH IS MAYBE NOT, UM, QUITE APPLICABLE ANYMORE.
AND WE WERE TALKING AN ADDITIONAL SOMEWHERE BETWEEN EIGHT TO 16,000 PEOPLE.
SO I JUST THINK WE SHOULD GET LIKE SOME BASIC IDEA OF HOW MANY PEOPLE AND, AND WE WILL BE PERFORMING SCENARIO MODELING AS THIS PLAN MOVES FORWARD.
THAT'S ONE OF OUR CORE THINGS.
AND WE PLAN ON WORKING WITH PLAN RVA, OUR REGIONAL PLANNING ORGANIZATION ON SOME OF THAT.
THAT IS A NEW, UM, FUNCTIONALITY THAT THEY ARE, ARE TAKING ON TO ASSIST LOCALITIES WITH.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS IS BEING A MEMBER OF THAT ORGANIZATION.
BUT ONE OF THE FIRST TOOLS IS TRYING TO OUTLINE, YOU CAN'T REALLY PROJECT YOUR POPULATION WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT POTENTIAL PROPOSED LAND USE MIGHT BE AND WHAT THAT VISION IS FOR THE FUTURE.
SO THEN THAT HELPS DRIVE WHAT YOUR POPULATION COULD BE IN THE FUTURE.
CRYSTAL, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A QUICK RECAP OF WHAT HAPPENS AFTER TONIGHT? I'M CONCERNED THAT THE CLINIC COMMISSION MEETING NEXT WEEK, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN BEING SHARED TONIGHT, SIGNIFICANT ISSUES, NOT ENOUGH TIME.
WHAT, WHAT SHOULD WE ANTICIPATE HAPPENING FROM THE INPUT YOU'VE RECEIVED TONIGHT AND WHAT CAN WE ANTICIPATE BEING UPDATED WITH CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WEEK WHEN IT GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION? ABSOLUTELY.
MR. COSTELLA, YOU KNOW, YOU AND I HAVE TALKED EXTENSIVELY ON THIS.
SO ONE THING I WANNA EMPHASIZE IS THOUGH IT MAY SEEM THAT THIS PROCESS HAS CHANGED, ONE THING I WILL SAY IS THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED IS OUR CONSULTANT.
WE UM, AND I STOOD BEFORE A LOT OF YOU ALL BACK AT, UM, WHAT IS IT, UH, GRACE CHINESE BAPTIST CHURCH, I THINK I'VE BEEN HERE SIX MONTHS.
SO I, I STOOD THERE AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE THOUGHTFUL AND THAT FOLKS WERE HEARD.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID IS WE REALIZED THAT WAS NOT REFLECTED, HOWEVER, WHERE WE WERE WITH HAVING PUBLIC OPEN COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN THE WEEK AFTER THANKSGIVING, AND THEN THE VERY BEGINNING OF DECEMBER, WE ACTUALLY HAD A JOINT PLANNING COMMISSION IN JANUARY AND THEN IT WAS SLATED FOR PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARINGS IN FEBRUARY AND BOARD IN MARCH.
SO IT WAS NEVER INTENDED WITH THE ORIGINAL TIMELINE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE MASSIVE MAJOR SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES FROM WHAT DROPPED RIGHT BEFORE THANKSGIVING.
AND THEN WHAT WAS GOING TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY.
I WILL SAY THAT WHAT WE'VE WORKED HERE IS TO SPEND EXTENSIVE TIME GOING BACK THROUGH ALL OF THE VIDEO FOOTAGE, ALL OF THE ONLINE COMMENTS, WHICH WERE HUNDREDS.
THERE WAS A, YOU KNOW, OVER 12 MONTH ALMOST, WE KIND OF CUT IT OFF AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF MARCH OF A COMMENT PERIOD.
WE'RE GOING TO THEN BE WORKING WITH TONIGHT'S FEEDBACK, RIGHT? TAKING THAT AND SYNTHESIZING IT INTO A MEMO THAT WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THEY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT IN ADVANCE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF THINGS THAT WERE RAISED TONIGHT.
UM, AND AGAIN, NOTHING SIGNS SEALED AND DELIVERED UNTIL THE BOARD APPROVES IT.
SO I, I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
BUT THEY WILL BE GETTING A MEMO JUST LIKE THE BOARD WILL GET A MEMO FROM ANYTHING THAT'S DISCUSSED OR BROUGHT UP AT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND SO AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, WE WILL HAVE THOSE AS AN APPENDIX TO THE ACTUAL PLANS AND THEY WILL STAY AS PART OF THAT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A HIGH LEVEL FRAMEWORK.
WE HAVE A ROBUST LISTING AND I, I WILL FUMBLE THROUGH THIS INEVITABLY, BUT THAT'S OKAY CUZ IT'S JUST SUCH A GREAT LAYOUT.
I VOTED FOR FIRE STATION, I WAS OVERRULED.
WE COULD HAVE HAD THE BAY WINDOWS OPEN BY NOW.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS RECOMMEND THE NEXT, SO RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS.
IT REALLY TALKS ABOUT THE NEXT THING.
SO THIS IS REALLY THE FUNDAMENTAL BUILDING BLOCK, BUT IT'S NOT SETTING ANYTHING IN STONE.
THIS IS A PLAN AND THERE'S NOT ACTION THAT IMMEDIATELY THIS CHANGES ANYTHING ZONING'S NOT IMMEDIATELY CHANGING DESIGN GUIDELINES AREN'T CHANGING, OUR OVERLAY DISTRICTS AREN'T CHANGING.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE SAW WITH OUR LAST PLAN.
EVERYTHING WAS LAYERED INTO IT DOWN TO EXACTLY WHAT WOULD BE ON EACH PARCEL.
SO THIS IS TRYING TO TAKE IT WHERE WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY THAT THEN WORKS FOR WHAT MAY EVOLVE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL MARKETS, WHAT WE MAY SEE AS EVOLVING NEEDS FOR OUR SERVICE SECTOR OR RESIDENTIAL NEEDS IN A COMMUNITY AND AS WELL AS OUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.
YOU MAY RECALL OUR PREVIOUS PLAN HAD EXTENSIVE PROPOSED ROAD NETWORKS WITHOUT MUCH RATIONALIZATION AS TO WHY THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF PROPOSED NET ROAD NETWORKS.
REALLY THIS IS TRYING TO LAY OUT WHAT WE HAVE, WHAT'S POTENTIALLY APPROVED FOR INSTANCE, FOR TRANSPORTATION AND THEN FOCUSING ON
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WHERE YOU COULD THEN AS DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS COME IN, WHETHER IT'S A SMALL COMMERCIAL MEDIUM OR LARGE OR SMALL RESIDENTIAL TO MEDIUM AND LARGE WHERE YOU CAN FOSTER THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CONNECTIVITY OF SIDEWALKS, TRAILS, ROADS, AND CONNECTING COMMUNITIES TO OTHER COMMUNITIES SO THAT YOU KEEP PEOPLE OFF OF BROAD STREET ROAD.CAUSE IT'S NOT BROAD STREET, IT'S BROAD STREET ROAD, UM, AND THOSE TYPES OF OPPORTUNITIES.
BUT THIS IS A WORKING DOCUMENT SO IT'S NOT EVER DESIGNED JUST TO SIT ON A SHELF AND THEN WE DON'T TAKE ANY RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS OR OTHER THINGS.
SO I HOPE THAT HELPS SOMEWHAT.
IT DOES, IT DOES TO SOME DEGREE SPECIFICALLY THE, WE ALREADY HAD SOMEONE OVER HERE'S WAITING TO SPEAK.
APOLOGIES, WE WE CAN TALK LATER.
MR. COSTELLO, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW MY PHONE NUMBER, YOU ACTUALLY GOT MY CELL NUMBER.
APOLOGIES, YOU, UH, HAD ON THE SCREEN FOR UH, TRAFFIC PATTERNS.
WE HAVE 70% OF THE TRAFFIC WAS COMING FROM EAST ON BROAD STREET AND THEY GO BACK, HOW DO THEY TURN AROUND TO GO BACK? BECAUSE IF YOU GO, IF YOU GO MISS HAW, YOU GO WEST ON ON BROAD STREET.
DO THEY HAVE PLANS FOR THE CIRCLE WEST OF HAW WHEN YOU COME OUT OF FOOD LION OR NO SIR.
THIS IS THE GENERAL THAT THAT MAP IS ACTUALLY 64 I THINK THE INTERCHANGE RIGHT THERE.
SO IT'S NOT NECESSARILY ALL COMING INTO ON BROAD STREET RIGHT THERE, THE GRAPHIC ON THE MAP.
AND AND IT'S KIND OF SHOWING THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS IN AND OUT.
SO THE IDEA IS BOTH OF THOSE AREAS JUST SHOW IN AND OUT SO THEY'RE COMING TO THAT AREA IN AND OUT.
SO AGAIN, IT'S A GENERALIZATION AND THIS REPRESENTATION ON THE LAPTOP SCREEN IS ACCURATE.
WHATEVER TRANSLATED ONTO THAT IS NOT, I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT WHAT WE HAVE IN THE PROPOSED PLANS ACTUALLY REFLECTS THE TRUE PERCENTAGES.
SO TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES JUST LIKE THE AC TONIGHT.
OKAY, SO SO WHERE WAS PEOPLE TURNING AROUND HEAD BACK? IT'S JUST TRAFFIC COUNTS.
SO IT'S JUST DOWN CARS PURELY BASED ON B TRAFFIC COUNT STREET WHERE THEY CAN DO THAT'S UP.
UM, WE'VE GOT A HAND OVER HERE AND A HAND OVER HERE.
HE'S GONNA GET THE LUCKY FIRST CARD AND UM, WE'LL WORK TO TAKE A COUPLE LAST FEW QUESTIONS AND WRAP IT UP AND AGAIN, STAFF WILL HANG AROUND AFTERWARDS FOR A BIT TO CHAT WITH EVERYONE.
HI, YES, THIS, MY NAME'S DAN CORN.
UM, I FIND IT INTERESTING WATCHING US.
UM, YOU, YOU HAVE A TOUGH JOB.
YOU GOT TWO FACTIONS BASICALLY YOU GOT THE FACTIONS OF PEOPLE SAY I'M A GO LEARNER, I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY CHANGE OR NOT MUCH.
AND THEN YOU GOT THE GROUP THAT SAY WE GOTTA GROW, WE GOTTA MAKE IT HAPPEN.
TRYING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY IS GOING TO BE AN IMPOSSIBLE SITUATION FOR YOU.
JUST LIKE TO RECOMMEND SOMEBODY TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THOSE GREENWAY, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR BASIC NOW AND YOU TAKE THE FLOOD PLAIN AND DRAW A GREEN LINE THROUGH IT, CALL IT A GREEN ONE.
AND I ASKED THE PREDECESSOR HOW TO DO THIS.
IT SAID, OH THAT'S UP TO THE ENGINEERS.
UH, IF YOU TRY, IF YOU TRY TO DO THAT AND MAKE IT LONG PLAY PLANE LIKE THAT, IT'S GONNA BE AN ENGINEERING DISASTER AND UNLESS YOU WANNA MAKE A BOARDWALK PROHIBITIVE EXPENSIVE.
SO UH, JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THAT CAUSE IT REALLY LOOK AT THE BASIC MAP AND LOOK AT THE FLOOD PLAINS AND JUST DO OUR GREENING LINE THROUGH IT.
THAT'S YOUR GREENING LINE AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA THANK YOU.
UM, ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON WRAPPING THIS UP.
STAFF IS GONNA STICK AROUND FOR A FEW MINUTES AFTERWARDS, SO FEEL FREE TO CHAT WITH ONE OF US AND AS ALWAYS YOU CAN CALL GUC LYNN COUNTY AND WE WILL WORK TO BE RESPONSIVE TO YOU.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ACCLIMATING TO THE NICE WARM WEATHER.