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[I. 6:00 PM Call to Order]
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING FOR JUNE 12TH AT 6:00 PM UH, WE'LL START OFF WITH AN INVOCATION
[II. Invocation]
AND A PLEDGE LED BY VICE CHAIR OF OTS.UH, PLEASE STAND IF YOU'RE ABLE.
DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE INVITE YOU HERE TONIGHT.
UH, AS WE DISCUSS THE PLANS THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
GOD, PLEASE, UH, CONTINUE TO BE AT THE CENTER OF OUR COMMUNITY.
GOD, GIVE US THE WISDOM THAT THESE PLANS WOULD BE PLEASING TO YOU.
IT'S IN YOUR SON'S NAME THAT WE PRAY.
[III. Pledge of Allegiance]
THANK YOU.WELL, WE WILL GET RIGHT INTO IT.
UM, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO, UH, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON A, UH, FOR A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT.
AND AT THIS TIME, I WOULD ASK OUR DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO TAKE IT AWAY.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, VICE CHAIR, UM, AND SUPERVISORS, CRYSTAL NATUS, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
SO TONIGHT YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE YOU FOR THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE SMALL AREA PLAN.
I'M JUST GONNA DO A BRIEF OVERVIEW.
WE WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM OUR CONSULTANTS, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, WHAT YOU HAVE, UM, TONIGHT IS A COURTHOUSE VILLAGE SMALL AREA PLAN.
THIS ACTUALLY, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THIS? IT'S A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE GUC COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE 2035 PLAN.
THIS PROPOSED COURTHOUSE VILLAGE PLAN COULD
[IV. Public Hearing]
BE USED TO GUIDE ZONING IN THE FUTURE FOR GROWTH.IT DOES NOT CHANGE EXISTING ZONING.
IT DOES NOT CHANGE CURRENT DESIGN GUIDELINES OR OVERLAY DISTRICTS.
HOWEVER, IT MAY BE USED TO FACILITATE FUTURE CODE AND REGULATORY CHANGES.
SO, IN ESSENCE, WHAT WE HAVE AS A VISION DOCUMENT WITH SOME GUIDING PRINCIPLES TO LEAD US TO NEXT STEPS, WHICH WOULD BE ZONING, ORDINANCE, AMENDMENTS, UM, DESIGN REVIEW GUIDELINES THAT WOULD MAYBE BE APPLIED IN THE FUTURE REVISITED, UM, AND OTHER SUCH THINGS.
WHERE HAVE WE BEEN IN THIS SMALL AREA PLANNING PROCESS? I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE TALK THROUGH THIS AND HIGHLIGHT THIS CUZ WE'VE DONE, UM, A VERY EARNEST EFFORT TO SEEK INPUT IN.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN DOWN A VERY LONG ROAD WITH THESE PLANS.
UM, SO THIS ACTUALLY REALLY BEGAN IN FEBRUARY, 2022.
SO A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WITH THE KICKOFF AND OUTREACH.
THERE WAS A TOTAL OF FIVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND OPEN HOUSES FOR EACH PLAN FROM FEBRUARY, 2022 TO MAY, 2023.
LAST YEAR, THERE WERE ROUND TABLES HELD FOR EACH SMALL AREA PLAN WITH DIFFERENT GROUPS OF STAKEHOLDERS AND CROSS SECTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A FOUR MONTH COMMUNITY-WIDE SURVEY IN LATE SPRING TO EARLY SUMMER LAST YEAR.
AND IN NOVEMBER, 2022, WE HAD SOME DRAFT PLANS RELEASED.
UH, WE DID REALIZE THAT THOSE DRAFT PLANS RELEASED WERE PROBABLY NOT REFLECTIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE WANTED OR NEEDED TO SEE.
UM, FROM THE TIME OF NOVEMBER TO MARCH, 2023, STAFF MET WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND STAKEHOLDERS FROM EACH SMALL AREA CUZ UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE ACTUALLY STUDIED TWO AREAS.
WE'RE HERE TONIGHT ABOUT THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE TO REALLY FIGURE OUT WHERE DO WE NEED TO GO IN REVISITING ALL OF THE PUBLIC FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED.
UM, WE HAD A JOINT PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD WORKSHOP IN JANUARY OF 2023.
AND WE ALSO HAD A ONLINE COMMENT PERIOD THAT RAN FROM NOVEMBER TO FEBRUARY, AND WE RECEIVED OVER 700 COMMENTS.
SO IT'S BEEN A RATHER EXHAUSTIVE PROCESS AND REALLY WORKING HARD AND, UM, GOOD FAITH TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THE COMMON REOCCURRING THEMES THAT WE'VE SEEN.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD
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ONE-OFFS, BUT YOU KNOW, THE IDEA IS TO PLAN FOR THE COLLECTIVE AND THOSE REOCCURRING THEMES THAT WE'VE SEEN.SO IN MAY, 2023, WE ACTUALLY HAD, UM, UPDATED PROPOSED PLANS THAT WERE MADE PUBLIC AND WE HELD OPEN HOUSES ON THEM, WHICH TAKES US TO WHERE WE ARE THIS EVENING.
SO WHAT IS THE GOAL OF THESE PLANS? REALLY TO HIGHLIGHT OUR CORE VALUES, AND THAT'S USING THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT I WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT, TO CREATE PUBLIC VALUE THAT'S REFLECTIVE AND REPRESENTATIVE OF GLAND'S DESIRE TO FURTHER A HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE THROUGH VARIOUS MEASURES SUCH AS PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY THAT IS VERY UNIQUE TO COURTHOUSE VILLAGE.
UM, FURTHERING OUR PUBLIC SPACES, RURAL PRESERVATION, HISTORIC CHARACTER, WHICH IS ALREADY APPARENT HERE IN OUR VILLAGE, UM, AS WELL AS THE RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION OF SMALL BUSINESSES.
AND THOSE ARE FACETS THAT YOU'LL SEE THROUGHOUT THE PLAN.
UM, AGAIN, TOUCHING ON WHERE HAVE WE BEEN IN THIS PLANNING PROCESS? YOU'LL SEE, UH, OKAY, YEAH, I STILL HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE CLICKER SOMETIMES.
ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN IS THE PRIOR CONNECTIVITY PROPOSAL.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, TRANSPORTATION IS A CENTRAL PART OF ANY PLANNING PROCESS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF THEORETICAL AND PROPOSED CONNECTIVITY, WHEREAS ON THE LEFT WHERE WE SEE OURSELVES NOW, UM, THESE ARE ROADS THAT ARE ONLY IN APPROVED PLANS, UM, THROUGH THE P PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR PROJECTS THAT WE KNOW ARE ONLINE, OR PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE IN QUEUE WITH VDOT PRIOR LAND USE.
UH, ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM OUR CITIZENS WAS THAT IT WAS CLUNKY.
THERE WERE TOO MANY CATEGORIES.
UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE WORKED ON FOCUSING ON WITH THIS EFFORT HERE ON THE RIGHT SIDE WITH OUR CURRENT LAND USE PROPOSAL IS REALLY BEING MORE FLEXIBLE.
HAVING SOMETHING THAT IS MUCH MORE SIMILAR TO FORM-BASED ZONING THAT REALLY FOSTERS MORE OF THOSE TRANSITIONAL ELEMENTS, TRANSITION ZONES AND DEVELOPMENT ZONES, AND THAT THEY BLEND MORE NATURALLY TOGETHER.
SO IN CONCLUSION, I WILL SAY THAT, UH, AS WE HEAD INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, AT ON MAY 24TH, WE ACTUALLY HAD A PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE SMALL AREA PLAN ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
AND WITH THAT, I WILL ACTUALLY TURN IT OVER TO OUR CONSULTANT, UM, CHUCK RAPP WITH TIM'S GROUP.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, AS STATED, MY NAME IS CHUCK RAPP.
I'M A SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER WITH TIM'S GROUP.
AND, UH, THANKFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND PRESENT THIS DRAFT PLAN, JILL, THIS EVENING.
SO WE'LL TALK A BIT, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR OBJECTIVE.
WE'LL GIVE INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, UH, ABOUT OUR APPROACH HERE.
UH, AND WE CRAFTED THIS INTO TWO SECTIONS.
ONE WAS AN INTRODUCTION TO SMALL AREA PLANS, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THE, THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE SMALL AREA PLAN.
AND THEN, UH, BREAK FOR QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.
AS WE STATED, THIS WAS A GRAPHIC WE PREPARED TO, TO ILLUSTRATE THIS, THIS TIMELINE OF THIS PROCESS THAT STARTED BACK IN FEBRUARY OF 2022.
UH, AS WE STATED EARLIER, THIS, THIS HAD, UH, KICKOFF MEETINGS, COMMUNITY SURVEYS, IT HAD COMMUNITY PRESENTATIONS, ROUND TABLES.
UH, AND SO OUR JOB WAS REALLY WAS, WAS TO TRY AND DIVE IN AND SYNTHESIZE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
UH, WE CAME ON ABOUT, ABOUT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS AGO, UM, LATE FEBRUARY, EARLY MARCH, UH, AND, AND, AND DOVE INTO THAT.
SPENT, SPENT A FEW WEEKS, AND I'LL GET INTO SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE SAW.
UH, AS WE GOT INTO THAT, UH, WE HAD OUR PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSIONS, OUR OPEN HOUSES.
UH, WE MET WITH Y'ALL AS WELL.
AND HERE WE ARE THIS EVENING, UH, HOPEFULLY PRESENTING, UH, AN ACCEPTABLE DRAFT PLAN.
SO, LIKE, TAKE A MINUTE JUST TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S DIFFERENT ABOUT OUR PLAN.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAW WAS A NEED TO CREATE A REALLY DEFINED STRUCTURE FOR THIS PLAN.
SO WE HAVE HAVE WELL DEFINED CHAPTERS, UH, THAT HIT ON THE MAJOR TOPICS WITH SUBFACTORS UNDERNEATH THAT.
SO IT'S EASY TO NAVIGATE AND FIND OUT THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THIS PLAN AND HOW IT ALL COMES TOGETHER.
WE WANTED TO REALLY, UH, TRY TO ARTICULATE A VISION FROM ALL OF THE PUBLIC INPUT THAT, YOU KNOW, OVER A YEAR OF PUBLIC INPUT.
WE WANTED TO TRY TO TAKE, HAVE A TAKEAWAY AS TO WHAT THAT, WHAT THAT VISION WAS EXPRESSED BY THE COMMUNITY.
WE WANTED TO MAKE THIS PLAN, UH, INCORPORATE CLEAR AND EASY, UH, GRAPHICS, EASY TO FOLLOW, UH, GET AWAY FROM THE LONG AND HEAVY TEXT SO THAT, SO THAT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO EXPRESS COMES OUT EASILY.
AND THEN LAST, WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE THIS REALISTIC, UH, AND AND ENSURE THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A BUILDABLE PLAN.
THIS IS AN IMPLEMENTABLE PLAN FOR GOLAND COUNTY.
UM, JUST SMALL AREA PLANS AS A WHOLE, UH, AS A, THIS IS A 10 TO 20 YEAR TIMEFRAME.
THESE ARE LONG RANGE, UH, GUIDES.
UM, AND, AND SO THEY'RE NOT MEANT TO BE SUPER SPECIFIC.
UH, AND THEN REALLY GUIDES FUTURE WORK THAT COMES AFTER THIS.
UH, OFTENTIMES IN THE FORM OF REZONINGS OR, OR DEVELOPMENT OR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT MIGHT BE HAP TO TAKE PLACE IN THE COUNTY.
AS, AS WAS STATED, THIS DOES NOT CHANGE ANY EXISTING ZONING.
THIS IS JUST A LONG RANGE PLAN.
UH, IT DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING, UH, REGULATORY ON, ON A PARCEL AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW.
IT JUST PROVIDES THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HOPEFULLY GET THERE ONE DAY IF IT ALIGNS WITH Y'ALL'S VISION.
UM, SO WHAT WE DO, WE FOCUS ON THE DESIRED CHARACTER AND THE FORM.
UH, WHAT DOES THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT LOOK LIKE? UH, HOW DO WE PROTECT NATURAL RESOURCES AND HOW DO WE WEAVE THAT ALL TOGETHER IN 10 TO 20 YEARS, UH, TO PRESERVE WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT GLAND COUNTY NOW, UM, ALSO ALLOWS, HOPEFULLY Y'ALL
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TO ALIGN FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WITH CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT SO THAT YOU CAN KEEP PACE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND ENSURE THAT INFRASTRUCTURE KEEPS UP WITH THAT AND REALLY ENCOURAGES THE EFFICIENT USE OF, OF, OF LAND, UH, AND TARGET'S DEVELOPMENT WHERE YOU WANT IT SO THAT YOU CAN PRESERVE THE RURAL CHARACTERS OF THIS COUNTY.SO IN OUR INTRODUCTORY TAP CHAPTER, WHAT WE WANTED TO FIRST DO WAS REALLY JUST, UH, PROVIDE SOME REGIONAL CONTEXT.
SO THIS IS A MAP WE, WE, WE, WE INCORPORATED INTO THIS DRAFT THAT THAT SHOWS, UH, GLAND COUNTY IN RELATION TO RICHMOND, IN RELATION TO CHARLOTTESVILLE, THE MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS.
AND THEN WHERE, UH, THE TWO SMALL AREA PLANS THAT WERE THE FOCUS OF THE PAST YEAR AND A HALF ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE COUNTY.
JUST TO REALLY ESTABLISH THAT, THAT THAT CONTEXT.
UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT TRANSPORTATION PATTERNS, JUST WHERE FOLKS MIGRATING, UH, IN AND OUT OF THE COUNTY, UH, IN RELATION TO THE TWO SMALL AREA PLAN AREAS.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN CENTERVILLE, AS IT WOULD BE COURTHOUSE, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE ROUTE 60 TRAVELING RIGHT THROUGH COURTHOUSE VILLAGE AS THE MAJOR CORRIDOR THERE TO THINK ABOUT AS WE, AS WE WORK THROUGH OUR PLANNING PROCESS.
ROUTE SIX, ROUTE SIX, OH, SORRY, WRONG GRAPHIC.
UM, ALRIGHT, UH, WE ALSO WANTED TO KIND OF ARTICULATE OUR COMMUNITY GOALS.
UM, ALL, ALL THE DIFFERENT FEEDBACK THAT WE HEARD, WE TRIED TO BREAK THAT IN TO, TO FOUR MAIN THINGS THAT KEPT BEING, UH, REPEATED THROUGHOUT A LOT OF THE, THE INPUT THAT WE READ, OUR CONVERSATION WITH STAFF, UH, READING THE SURVEYS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT, IT WAS REALLY AN, A STRONG DESIRE TO PROMOTE SMALL BUSINESSES.
UM, AN EMPHASIS ON THE BUILT FORM, ENSURING THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, INFIELD DEVELOPMENT, UH, BLENDED COMPATIBLE, UH, WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE EXISTING, UH, HERB, UH, DEVELOPMENT FORM THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE IN THE AREA.
UH, ALSO A DESIRE TO, TO CREATE WALKABLE PUBLIC SPACES THAT INTERCONNECTIVITY, WHETHER IT'S FOR THE PEDESTRIANS OR, OR, OR ROAD NETWORKS.
UM, CONNECTING PUBLIC SPACES, CONNECTING PLACES, UH, CENTER, UH, CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE VILLAGE AREA.
AND THEN LAST IS REALLY THE, THE STRONG GOAL OF PRESERVING COMMUNITY CHARACTER, UH, FINDING WAYS TO, TO KEEP WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT, UH, THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE AREA AND BRING THAT THROUGH, THROUGH THIS PLAN AND PRESERVE IT.
SO WITH THAT, UM, AS I MENTIONED, SO WHEN WE STARTED THIS, UH, AND WE REALLY GOT INTO THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, WE SPENT ABOUT THREE WEEKS, UH, JUST REALLY READING ALL OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, SO I WANTED TO KIND OF SYNTHESIZE SOME OF THOSE MAIN POINTS AND HOW WE HOPE TO ADDRESS THOSE WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THIS PLAN.
SO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S A STRONG DESIRE FOR THIS WALKABLE MIXED USE VILLAGE CORE THAT HAD A LOT OF PUBLIC SPACES, AND IT WAS A CENTRAL, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER OF THE VILLAGE.
SO WE HAVE THE MIXED USE VILLAGE CORE DESIGNATION, AND WE EVEN IDENTIFIED A POTENTIAL FOR A, WHAT WE CALL A ROAD DIET, WHERE YOU HAD SOME ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY AS A WAY TO KIND OF ENHANCE THAT PEDESTRIAN ZONE IN, IN THE VILLAGE CORE AND CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL PEDESTRIAN SPACES AND BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS.
UH, THERE'S A STRONG DESIRE, AS I MENTIONED, TO PRESERVE, UH, THE EXISTING HISTORIC PROPERTIES AND ENSURED THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WAS, AGAIN, COMPATIBLE FROM A FORM STANDPOINT.
AND SO WE DID AN INVENTORY OF ALL OF THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES, UH, THAT WERE ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER.
WE IDENTIFIED THOSE ON A MAP, GOT TO THIS END OF THIS PLAN.
WE PROVIDED SOME, I SOME TOOLS FOR HOW THOSE COULD BE PRESERVED THROUGH LOCAL DISTRICTS, THROUGH NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS.
AND THEN WE, WE, WE STUCK FIRM WITH THE RECOMMENDATION THAT BUILDINGS IN THAT HISTORIC CORE WERE OF A TWO-STORY HEIGHT.
AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS, THERE, THERE, THERE'S COMMENTS FOR SOME FOLKS WANTED HIGHER BUILDINGS, SOME FOLKS WANTED LOWER BUILDINGS.
SO THAT WAS OUR TASK OF TRYING TO BALANCE THAT AND, AND, AND FIND THE RIGHT, UH, THE RIGHT HEIGHT FOR, FOR THOSE FUTURE BUILDINGS HERE.
UH, STRONG DESIRE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, THAT WAS APPROPRIATELY SCALED.
SO WE HAVE, UH, FOUR LAND USE CATEGORIES, ENCOURAGE A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES, AND WE TALK ABOUT WHERE THOSE ARE, WHERE THOSE SHOULD GO.
AND PROVIDE SOME EXAMPLES OF THOSE SO THAT HOPEFULLY YOU DO HAVE THAT DIVERSE HOUSING STOCK, UH, 10 TO 20 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE.
UM, AND THEN WE ENSURING TO ENSURE THAT THOSE WE'RE DONE OF AN APPROPRIATE SCALE.
WE TALK ABOUT THE HEIGHTS WITHIN EACH DISTRICT AND THE RELATIONSHIP TO THE STREET AND HOW THOSE BUILDINGS SHOULD FIT SO THAT YOU DO HAVE THINGS THAT DO FIT THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE.
UH, AND THE LAST WAS THIS WALKABILITY IN THE VILLAGE.
SO YOU'LL SEE WE DO A COMPLETE INVENTORY OF SIDEWALKS, UH, OF PLANNED TRAILS, WHICH TYP GAVE YOU TYPICAL STREET SECTION.
SO HOPEFULLY FOLLOW AS A GUIDE FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS TO ENSURE THAT YOU ARE GETTING THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS, MULTI-USE PATHS OR GREENWAYS.
AND WE, WE EXPANDED ON THAT IDEA OF GREENWAYS AND GAVE YOU SOME TYPICAL TRAIL PROTOTYPES THAT COULD BE USED, UH, AS OPPORTUNITIES BECOME AVAILABLE TO IMPLEMENT THIS.
SO WE STARTED THIS AS EVERYONE, AS I MENTIONED, WE WANTED TO REALLY ARTICULATE THIS VISION, UH, THESE SOME VISION ELEMENTS THAT WE COULD KEEP COMING BACK TO AS WE DID THIS PLAN TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE ON THE RIGHT TRACK.
UH, AND SO HERE ARE THE FIVE VISION ELEMENTS THAT, THAT WE DEVELOPED, UM, BASED ON THE, THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAD HEARD, ALL THE PUBLIC INPUT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD READ FROM THE PREVIOUS DRAFTS.
UH, THIS IDEA THAT, THAT THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGES, THE HISTORICAL, UH, INSTITUTIONAL HEART, UH, OF GLAND COUNTY, WHICH IS CERTAINLY IS WITH THE COURTHOUSE HERE.
AND, AND THE, THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES THAT YOU HAVE ON RIVER, UH, ROAD ECONOMIC VITALITY, ENSURING WAYS THAT BUSINESSES CAN CONTINUE TO GROW AND THRIVE IN THIS AREA, AND PROVIDING THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, THAT FLEXIBILITY THAT WAS MENTIONED WITH THIS ZONING, NOT TO BE TOO RIGID, UM, ENSURING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE KEEPS PACE WITH THAT.
SO WORKING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND YOU, YOU, UH, LOOKING AT YOUR UTILITIES MASTER PLAN TO ENSURE THAT, THAT WE ALIGNED WHAT, WHAT WE HAD, UH, PROPOSED.
UM, THEN YOU'LL SEE ELEMENTS FOR A MIXED USE, WALKABLE VILLAGE, TRY TRYING TO INCREASE THAT PEDESTRIAN REALM, AS I MENTIONED.
AND JUST THE, THE, THE HOPE TO, TO PRESERVE SOME, SOME NATURAL RESOURCES.
AND THIS BEING, THIS GROWTH ABSORPTION AREA FOR THE COUNTY TO PRESERVE THAT RURAL CHARACTER, UH, THROUGHOUT.
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A BASE MAP THAT WE CREATED.UH, IT HELPS, HELPS TO ORIENT FOLKS, UH, HAVE THIS UP HERE TO REALLY TALK ABOUT THE, THE, THE VILLAGE BOUNDARY.
UH, AND SO WE, WE ADJUSTED THIS VILLAGE BOUNDARY FROM THE PAST CONSULTANT, UH, AND, AND TIED THIS IN A LITTLE CLOSER THERE TO CEDAR POINT ROAD, WHERE TO REALLY ALIGN WITH THE, THE ADOPTED TRANSPORTATION PLAN FOR THE COUNTY AND THE MASTER PLAN FOR UTILITIES WHERE THOSE ARE CURRENTLY PLANNED, UM, FELT THAT WAS MORE APPROPRIATE AND IT PROVIDES A BETTER TRANSITION INTO THAT RURAL AREA TO THE LEFT WHERE WE HAVE IT LABELED RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
SO THIS IS OUR TRANSPORTATION MAP.
THIS IS, AS I MENTIONED, WE DID AN EXISTING INVENTORY, UH, OF SIDEWALKS, LOCAL STREETS, ARTERIAL STREETS.
AND THAT WAS USED AS THAT FOUNDATION TO THINK ABOUT HOW DO WE PLAN FOR, FOR IMPROVEMENTS ON THOSE STREETS OR FUTURE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MIGHT FIT THOSE CATEGORIES.
AND SO START WITH LOCAL STREETS.
THOSE ARE MORE OF YOUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TYPE SERVING STREETS, YOUR SECONDARY ROAD SYSTEM, LOWER CAPACITY.
SO WE HAVE A TYPICAL SECTION HERE.
WE'VE MAPPED ALL THE EXISTING ROADS THAT ARE, THAT ARE EITHER, UH, CURRENTLY EXISTING OR AS I SAID EARLIER, OR APPROVED AS PART OF DEVELOPMENT PLANS, UH, AND IN THE PIPELINE.
UH, ONE THING WE DID HERE IS MAKE SURE WE WE'RE SHOWING SIDEWALKS ON THESE SO THAT YOU DO HAVE THAT GUIDE AS THE DEVELOPMENT COMES FORTH, UH, THAT YOU CAN HOPEFULLY SPEAK WITH THAT DEVELOPER ABOUT TRYING TO GET SOME SIDEWALKS IN THERE AS WELL AS WHERE STREETS TREES MIGHT GO ON THE OUTSIDE OF THAT SIDEWALK DUE TO THE, UH, RED REDUCED WIDTH THAT YOU OFTEN HAVE ON LOCAL STREETS, ARTERIAL STREETS.
YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS MAIN NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST, UH, PATTERN HERE IN, IN THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, UH, WITH FAIRGROUNDS ROAD AND, AND SANDY HOOK AND, AND RIVER ROAD.
UM, THOSE ARE YOUR MORE MEDIUM CAPACITY STREETS.
AGAIN, YOU WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SIDEWALKS ON THAT, AND THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A MULTI-USE PATH WHERE YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE TRAFFIC, A LITTLE, LITTLE HIGHER RATE OF SPEED ON THAT, UH, TO MAYBE OFFSET THE, THE PEDESTRIAN OR THE BICYCLIST OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT MIGHT BE USING IT.
UM, AS YOU'RE CARRYING A LITTLE MORE TRAFFIC, OFTEN SLIGHTLY HIGHER SPEEDS ON THOSE ROADS.
AND THIS IS WHERE I MENTIONED, WE, WE, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE, THE VILLAGE CORE HERE, UM, IN THE HEART OF THE HEART OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE SOME, SOME SIGNIFICANT RIGHT OF WAY FROM CURB TO CURB, UH, IN THE VILLAGE CORE THERE.
AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MAYBE DO SOME ENHANCED LANDSCAPING OR SOME ON STREETE PARKING, UH, DEPENDING ON WHICH OPTION FITS, FITS THE CURRENT SITUATION.
UH, SO AGAIN, THAT'S A WAY TO, TO INCREASE THAT, THAT CONNECTIVITY, UH, THAT PEDESTRIAN REALM.
UM, SOME BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS OR SOME ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PARKING AS, AS INFILL DEVELOPMENT COMES AND THE PARKING DEMAND GROWS OVER TIME.
AND THAT, AND THAT LONG 2020 YEAR OUTLOOK.
AS I MENTIONED, WE TALKED ABOUT GREENWAYS.
SO WE, WE'VE MAPPED OPPORTUNITIES FOR GREENWAYS, PARTICULARLY ALONG THE STREAM CORRIDORS THAT RON AND EITHER SIDE OF THE VILLAGE CORE HERE.
UM, AND SO YOU HAVE GREENWAYS THAT COULD BE ALONG THE ROAD, WHICH ARE THE PAVED PATH.
YOU HAVE TRAILS OFTEN RUNNING THROUGH FLOODPLAINS AND KIND OF CONNECTING PARKS AND NEIGHBORHOODS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN WHERE YOU DO HAVE SOME, SOME, SOME WETTER LAND, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA WANNA ELEVATE THAT WITH BOARDWALK.
SO AGAIN, IT'S THIS IDEA OF PROVIDING, UH, A VARIETY OF OPTIONS AND TOOLS, UH, UH, FOR, FOR Y'ALL AS, AS A BOARD TO THINK ABOUT AS THINGS COME FORWARD AND OPPORTUNITIES PRESENT THEMSELVES FOR FUNDING OR WITH DEVELOPMENTS TO ENSURE YOU HAVE THE, THE OPTION, UH, THAT FITS THE SITUATION BEST.
SO WE BROUGHT ALL THAT TOGETHER INTO A PROPOSED TRANSPORTATION NETWORK HERE THAT SHOWS THE EVERYTHING FROM LOCAL STREETS, ARTERIAL STREETS, UH, THE POTENTIAL ROAD DIET THERE IN THE CENTER, UH, GREENWAY PATH, MULTIS PATHS AND SIDEWALKS TO, TO REALLY CREATE THAT, UH, INTERCONNECTED NETWORK, UH, MULTIMODAL SYSTEM THROUGHOUT THE VILLAGE.
WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT AT PARKS RECREATION AND OPEN SPACE, UM, AND SO ON THE ONE LITTLE GRAPHIC THAT YOU HAVE SHOWS IF THAT ROAD DI WERE TO BE IMPLEMENTED WITH ON STREETE PARKING DOWN IN THE VILLAGE CORE, UH, WHERE YOU COULD HAVE A, SOME, SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING FOR SOME, SO SOME, MAYBE SOME SEATING, SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, A LITTLE WIDER SIDEWALK AND KIND OF ENHANCED THAT PEDESTRIAN ZONE, UH, ALONG, ALONG THE VILLAGE CORE THERE.
WE ALSO WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FARMER'S MARKET.
UH, FARMER'S MARKET IS A GREAT PRESENCE HERE IN THE VILLAGE CORE, CERTAINLY, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY CENTER FOR, FOR, UH, THE VILLAGE.
AND SO WE WANTED TO, TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND, AND, UH, PROMOTE THE IDEA TO MAKE, ENSURE THAT THAT STAYS, THAT THAT'S PERMANENT, WHETHER IT'S IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, UH, OR A FUTURE LOCATION AND MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE AN OPEN AIR CANOPY, UM, PAVILION TYPE STRUCTURE WITH, WITH THE COMMON GREEN, UH, THAT COULD REALLY, UM, MAKE SOMETHING, UH, A NICE PERMANENT HOME, UH, THAT THEY COULD COMMUNICATE, REALLY COME TOGETHER FOR, UH, TO KIND OF PRESERVE THAT COMMUNITY CHARACTER.
AGAIN, GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE, THAT WERE REQUESTED.
ALSO WANNA TALK ABOUT PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.
UH, SO YOU, YOU HAVE, UH, THE RIVER ALONG THE SOUTHERN SIDE THERE, JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO CONFER A CONTINUED TRAIL CONNECTIVITY, UH, ON THE BACK OF THE CORRECTIONAL FACILITY PROPERTY AND THEN THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
UH, I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, UH, POTENTIALLY EXPLORING ADDITIONAL USES ON THAT PROPERTY.
SO WANTED TO GET THAT IN THIS PLAN, GET IT ADOPTED AS SOMETHING, UH, THAT, THAT CERTAINLY SHOWS THE SUPPORT FOR THAT AND CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS MOVING FORWARD.
AS I MENTIONED, WE TOOK A LOOK AT HISTORICAL PROPERTIES.
UH, SO HERE'S WHERE WE MAPPED, UH, ALL THE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES THAT, THAT WERE LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER, AND THEN WE GET INTO SOME, SOME REGULATORY, UH, TOOLS THAT COULD HELP TO PRESERVE THOSE, WHETHER IT BE ADDITIONAL WORK FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, OR A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH SOME COMMUNITIES DO AS WELL.
UM, SO AGAIN, YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THERE TO THINK ABOUT, UH, OVER TIME, UH, BASED ON WHAT FITS BEST THIN LAND USE THE TOPIC, UH, EVERYBODY REALLY LOVES.
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THIS IS THE IDEA OF, UM, AS WAS MENTIONED, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO, WE SIMPLIFIED THE CATEGORIES A BIT, AND I'LL GET INTO EACH ONE, BUT THIS MAP REALLY HELPS TO ILLUSTRATE THE IDEA OF HIGHER INTENSITIES IN THE VILLAGE CORE ALONG RIVER ROAD.AND THEN AS YOU WORK OUT TOWARDS THE EDGES, IT, IT LOWERS AN INTENSITY.
SO, AND IT'S A GOOD TRANSITION INTO THE RURAL AREA ON THE OUTSIDE, AND WE'LL GET INTO EACH ONE OF THESE LAND USE CATEGORIES.
SO STARTING IN THE VILLAGE CORE WHERE YOU HAVE A LOT OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS ALREADY, UM, A GREAT, GREAT, UH, FABRIC OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE HAVE ALREADY TAKEN PLACE THERE.
SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED THIS IS, THIS IS THIS HEART THAT THE HISTORIC HEART HERE, UH, YOU HAVE THE COURTHOUSE AND YOU HAVE A, A LOT OF, A LOT OF, UH, HISTORY THERE THAT WE WANT TO HONOR AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT BUILDING PATTERN.
SO, UH, WHICH YOU'LL SEE, HERE'S SOME DIAGRAMS THAT REALLY EMPHASIZE, AND THESE ARE DI BUILDING, JUST BUILDING MASKING DIAGRAMS, NOT MEANT TO BE ARCHITECTURAL DIAGRAMS. THEY GET INTO SPECIFICS OF, OF, YOU KNOW, TREATMENTS OF BUILDINGS.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE HERE IS THE IDEA OF BRINGING BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE ROAD.
UM, SO WHAT WAS TRADITIONALLY DONE IN THE PAST, AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE, UH, THE, THE, THE STOREFRONT TYPE FEEL AS YOU'RE WALKING DOWN, UH, UH, ANY TYPE OF A HISTORIC TOWN.
AND SO WE WANT TO HOPEFULLY ENCOURAGE BUILDINGS THAT COME IN THE FUTURE TO BE PUT UP CLOSE TOWARDS THE ROAD AND RECOGNIZING THAT YOU, SOME BUILDINGS JUST HAVE TO HAVE PARKING.
SO IF YOU DO HAVE PARKING, TRY TO REDUCE IT TO A SMALLER AMOUNT OF PARKING WITH MORE PARKING IN THE SIDE OR REAR.
SO THEN YOU CONTINUE THAT, THAT RHYTHM ALONG THE STREET SCAPE THERE.
AND I'LL, I GUESS I'LL SAY ONE LAST THING ON THIS ONE.
THIS IS WHERE WE DID RECOMMEND A TWO-STORY HEIGHT, UH, ONE TO TWO-STORY HEIGHT.
THAT WAS REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT'S OUT THERE NOW, TRYING TO BALANCE THE, THE, THE, THE CONCERN THAT WE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT BUILDINGS BEING TOO TALL.
AND YOU'LL SEE IN SOME, IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I MEAN, THERE WAS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FOR, FOR A DESIRE TO, TO HAVE TALLER BUILDINGS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE.
SO IT SEEMED LIKE TWO STORIES THERE, UH, WOULD REALLY ENSURE THAT THE PRESERVATION OF, OF THAT HISTORIC STREET STAYED AN EXCUSE COMMERCIAL.
THIS IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH WHERE YOU HAVE, UH, A LOT OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALREADY OUT THERE, AND THERE ARE SOME VACANT PARCELS AND I'M SURE, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UM, ADDITIONAL REDEVELOPMENT OR INFILL ON THOSE VACANT LOTS.
AND SO THIS IS WHERE WE DID FEEL THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A SLIGHTLY LARGER SCALE BUILDING, UM, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL USES OUT THERE, UH, TO CREATE A LITTLE MORE VIBRANCY IN THAT AREA.
BUT IF YOU DO GO WITH THAT LARGER BUILDING, WE WANTED TO RECOMMEND, UH, A LARGER SETBACK OFF OF THE MAIN ROADS OFF OF SANDY HOOK, UH, AND FAIRGROUND ROAD THERE TO, TO ALIGN WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT'S ALREADY OUT THERE.
UM, IF YOU DO GO TO A THIRD STORY, UH, OUT THERE, WHICH WE, WE DID SAY WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, WE RECOMMENDED, UH, WHAT'S CALLED A STEP BACK.
AND THAT HELPS TO KIND OF CREATE A LESS OF A CAVERNOUS EFFECT ALONG THE ROAD.
UM, AND, AND HELPS TO KIND OF, UH, CREATE BUILDINGS OF MORE PEDESTRIAN SCALE.
AS I MENTIONED, LOT OF PUBLIC, UH, COUNTY OWNED INSTITUTIONAL PROPERTIES HERE.
UH, THIS IS REALLY THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, WHAT'S WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT COURTHOUSE VILLAGE IS ALL, ALL OF THE PUBLIC.
DID I? WHAT DID I, RANDY, SOMETHING HAPPENED.
THE, SOMETHING GOT SWITCHED IN THE PRESENTATION.
DID YOU STOP IT? STOPPED ON ME.
I THINK IT MAY HAVE, I THINK IT'S JUST A LARGE FALL.
UM, SO THIS MAP REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THE, ALL, ALL OF THE DIFFERENT, UM, PUBLIC BASED USES, COMMUNITY CENTERED USES.
HERE YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THE GOVERNMENT OFFICES, OBVIOUSLY THAT WE'RE, WE'RE IN THIS EVENING.
YOU HAVE THE, THE, UM, THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, YOU, YOU HAVE THE, THE COURTHOUSE.
YOU HAVE, UH, ALL, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF COMMUNITY CENTERED SERVICES HERE.
SO IT REALLY, REALLY HELPS TO CREATE THAT, UH, REALLY ACKNOWLEDGES THE IDENTITY OF, UH, HOW THIS AREA IS CERTAINLY DIFFERENT THAN THE CENTERVILLE AREA THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT AS WELL.
SO ONTO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL IS A CATEGORY THAT WE FELT, UH, IS PRETTY CLOSE ADJACENT TO THE MIXED USE CORE AND THE MIXED USE COMMERCIAL.
UH, AND SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE THERE IN OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE SLIGHTLY, UH, TIGHTER NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, WITH TWO TO FOUR UNITS PER ACRE.
UH, MORE OF THE WALKABLE HOME CENTER HOMES, UH, UP CLOSE TO THE STREET, UH, MIXTURE OF HOUSING TYPES.
SO THAT'S WHERE WE DO RECOMMEND, YOU KNOW, A VARIETY OF MAYBE A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, A TOWN HOME, A DUPLEX, SO THAT YOU HAVE A LITTLE MORE OF A VARIETY OF HOUSING TYPES TO MEET DIFFERENT, UH, HOUSE, UH, PRICE POINTS, UH, AND REALLY CREATE THAT CONNECTIVITY TO THAT, TO THE VILLAGE CORE, UH, IN THE CENTER.
AND AS YOU RADIATE OUT, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE WANNA STEP DOWN IN, IN DENSITY.
UH, THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE NO LESS THAN, UH, LESS THAN TWO UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, SO LARGER HOME SITES ARE EVEN LARGER THAN THAT, UH, AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY OUT.
SO THESE ARE YOUR LARGER HOMES, LARGER SETBACKS, UM, A GOOD TRANSITION SO THAT YOU REALLY CREATE THAT SENSE OF ARRIVAL OR DEPARTURE AS YOU'RE COMING AND GOING, UH, IN AND OUT OF THE VILLAGE.
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WHAT WE DID ALSO IS CREATE SOME DIAGRAMS HERE THAT TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT HOUSE TYPES.SO, UH, AS I MENTIONED, YOU HAVE TOWN HOMES AND DUPLEXES, UH, UM, DEFINITELY MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE IN THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS THE SINGLE FAMILY CLUSTER WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME, SOME COMMON GREEN SPACES THAT THINGS ARE CENTERED ON.
UM, AND THEN AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY OUT, AGAIN TO THE SINGLE FAMILY, LARGE LOT ON THE EDGES, UH, TO, TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT THAT, UM, THE DIFFERENT HOUSE POINTS, AND SO THAT AS THINGS COME BEFORE THE BOARD, UH, Y'ALL, Y'ALL HAVE THIS TO REFER BACK TO AS TO, YOU KNOW, IS THIS IN THE RIGHT ZONE? UH, IS THIS IN THE RIGHT DESIGNATION? WE ALSO TRIED TO TIE THIS TO YOUR EXISTING LAND USE OR YOUR EXISTING ZONING.
SO HERE'S A, THIS IS A CHART WE HAVE, AND IT GETS IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THE PLAN, BUT IT TALKS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT, UH, FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, WHAT THEIR INTENT IS.
THE PRIMARY USE IS THE SECONDARY USES, UH, TO CONSIDER UNDER EACH ONE.
UH, AND THEN HOW THAT RELATES TO YOUR EXISTING ZONING CATEGORIES.
UH, WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO A REZONING, UH, THEY WOULD NEED TO ALIGN WITH THOSE.
UH, AND WOULD YOU RECOGNIZE THAT SOME OF THOSE EXISTING EXISTING ZONING CATEGORIES NEED SOME AMENDMENTS, UH, TO BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE AND TO CREATE SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALLER SCALE INFILL, UH, WHICH IS CERTAINLY DESIRED THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, ALSO IDENTIFIED SOME REGULATORY TOOLS LIKE DESIGN STANDARDS, UH, TO REALLY GET INTO THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THESE BUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE WANT, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU FURTHER THAT THROUGH MORE DETAILED DESIGN STANDARDS OR OVERLAY, UH, DISTRICTS THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND ADOPTED THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
AND THE LAST, WE TRIED TO BRING, UH, ALL THE DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PROJECTS TO PRIORITIES, TO STUDIES, TO ADDITIONAL WORK, UH, INTO KIND OF A RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS BY TOPIC, UM, SO THAT YOU DO HAVE THIS ROADMAP TO PICK THINGS AND IMPLEMENT THEM AS OPPORTUNITIES BECOME AVAILABLE OVER TIME.
WITH THAT, I WILL STOP FOUR QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, MR. RAPP BOARD, ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS IN THE PUBLIC HEARING? NOT AT THIS POINT.
SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UH, JUST FOR, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT MAY NOT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS BEFORE, THIS IS A CHANCE FOR YOU TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
UM, WE'VE ASK YOU TO PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS.
AND, UM, UH, ALSO PLEASE RESPECT EACH PERSON THAT'S PRESENTING BY, UH, WITHHOLDING FROM ANY SORT OF OUTBURST, APPLAUSE, BOOZE, HISSES, STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE JUST KIND OF, IT'S NOT OUR, IT'S NOT OUR JAM UP HERE.
UM, AND THEN, UM, IF YOU, IF YOU DO HEAR REPEATED THEMES, IT'S QUITE OKAY TO SAY, I AGREE WITH WHAT EVERYTHING IS SAID, AND I AM, AM IN FAVOR OR NOT IN FAVOR OF.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MADAM COUNSEL, MR. ADMINISTRATOR, MADAM SECRETARY, MY NAME IS BEN SLOAN.
I RESIDE AT FIVE, UH, 2 0 52 MEANS ROAD MEANS VIRGINIA 23,102.
UM, I RISE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT THIS IS FOR AND, AND I CAN GO INTO, UH, SEVERAL ITEMS ABOUT THAT, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT DOES NOT CHANGE AS FAR AS I'VE SEEN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE WHOLE VILLAGE SECTION WITHIN THE, UH, COMPREHENSION PLAN IS LITERALLY TWO PARAGRAPHS.
UM, THERE'S OTHER ISSUES WITHIN THIS IN PARTICULAR.
UH, LET ME ADD, UH, ADDRESS THE ROAD DIET.
UH, ROUTE SIX IS NOT ONLY A MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIR, THE BRIDGE AT MAIDENS IS A MAJOR THOROUGH AFFAIR, AND THAT 5 22 CARRIES ALONG WITH ROUTE SIX VERY LARGE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT, OVERSIZED LOADS, ET CETERA.
SO CUTTING DOWN ON THE SIZE OF THAT I DON'T THINK IS APPROPRIATE.
BACK IN, UM, THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS, WHAT THE BOARD ACTUALLY CONSIDERED WAS A BYPASS AROUND THE, UH, COURTHOUSE AREA TO ALLOW AND FACILITATE ALL TYPES OF EQUIPMENT AND LARGE LOADS MOVING AROUND.
I DON'T THINK CURRENTLY THE DIET, UM, IS APPROPRIATE.
IN FACT, I'LL SUGGEST OTHER ROADS SHOULD BE FATED.
IN PARTICULAR, MY FAVORITE ROAD, FAIRGROUND ROAD.
I'LL GO TO THAT REAL QUICK BECAUSE IN THE PREVIOUS FOUR DAYS, WE'VE HAD THREE ACCIDENTS ON FAIRGROUND ROAD.
UH, PARTIALLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE ROAD'S INSUFFICIENT FOR THE AMOUNT OF LOAD THAT'S ON IT, PARTIALLY DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE IS JUST, UM, A LARGE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND THAT TRAFFIC'S ONLY GOING TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE WITH THE AMOUNT OF HOUSING THAT'S ALREADY APPROVED FOR THAT, INCLUDING RURAL HILL.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION AND IN PARTICULAR, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT SHOULD INCLUDE, UH, OTHER STRESSES THAT ARE ON THE EXISTING ROADS, NOT JUST SHRINKING ONE ROAD.
UM, I'LL ALSO SUGGEST THAT THERE'S OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS THAT MIGHT, WAS THAT YELLOW? FORGIVE ME.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER ASPECTS OF THIS THAT, UH, AREN'T EXACTLY
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CLEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE GONNA CHANGE.OBVIOUSLY THE ORDINANCES ARE NOT CHANGING, THE ZONING'S NOT CHANGING.
BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND THE ABILITY TO GET UP IN FRONT AND SPEAK.
UM, I DON'T TALK AS FAST AS A TIMON GUY, SO BEAR WITH ME.
THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS HERE.
I'LL COMMEND YOU ON ALL THE WORK.
UM, HOWEVER, I LIKE PATHS, PARKS, FARMER'S, MARKETS, BRINGING IN BUSINESSES.
WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION ALONG WITH WHAT MR. SLOAN SAID.
THE ROAD DIET IS NOT GONNA WORK.
YOU'VE LOOKED AT IT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
UM, NARROWING TWO HIGHWAYS COMING TOGETHER IS NOT GONNA WORK.
HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO TURN OUTTA SCOTT ROAD WITH SOMEBODY PARKED AT FRONT OF THE CHURCHES? UM, YOU CAN'T.
HAVE YOU EVER PULLED OUTTA THE DENTIST WAITING FOR WHAT, YOU KNOW, WITH CARS WAITING TO GO IN THE GAS STATION, YOU CAN'T.
UM, ESPECIALLY LARGE TRUCKS, UM, PARK CARS KEEP YOU FROM SEEING TREES AND TREES SPENDING ON THEIR AGE BLOCK VIEWS.
UM, PLEASE NOTE, SCOTT ROAD IS EXPECTING A HUGE INCREASE OF TRAFFIC AT RURAL HILL.
UM, DESPITE WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD, WE WERE, UM, PROFFERED, UM, A TURN LANE THERE TOO.
HOW CAN YOU NARROW THIS? ALL RIGHT, YOUR OTHER FUTURE USE IS THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY TWO FOUR HOUSES PER ACRE, TRIPLEX, DUPLEX, AND YOU'VE ADDED IT TO THE RURAL OVERLAY OVER THE RURAL HILL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN REZONED, FOUGHT OVER AND COMES OUT ON SCOTT ROAD IN REED MARSH.
AGAIN, THIS DENSITY IS WAY TOO MUCH FOR A VEHICLE FOR MAY, TOO MANY VEHICLES TO ADD TO 6 5 22, 6 32, 6 34 REED MARSH DRIVE AND CEDAR POINT, WHICH HAS JUST NOW APPEARED RECENTLY.
UM, ROOFTOPS ARE NOT A VIEW, IT IS NOT GUC, IT IS NOT RURAL.
AND AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IF I'M WALKING, IF I GO DOWNTOWN, I GET CLAUSTROPHOBIA THOSE STREETS.
THERE IS NO GRASS, THERE ARE LITTLE TREES.
YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT NARROWING AND BRINGING EVERYTHING UP TO A SIDEWALK IS GUC LAND.
SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL LISTENING.
UM, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, UM, WE'VE UH, VIOLATED THE COMP PLAN FOR MANY, MANY OTHER PEOPLE.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT JUST SAYING THIS IS NOT A, UM, CHANGE IN ZONING IS GOING TO KEEP IT.
THE CAMEL'S TENT, THE CAMEL'S CAMEL IS HERE.
HE IS NOT JUST UNDER HIS TENT WITH HIS NOSE.
ARE YOU MS. HASKINS? I MIGHT AS WELL GET MY 2 CENTS I MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M WITH 32 85 SCOTT ROAD HERE IN THE COURTHOUSE.
JUST A COUPLE ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS.
I THINK IT'S VERY DISINGENUOUS, FRANKLY, CUZ IT'S, IT'S HAPPENED MULTIPLE TIMES TONIGHT ALREADY.
FOR PEOPLE TO SAY THAT NONE OF THIS AFFECTS CURRENT ZONING AND CURRENT PROPERTIES.
WE ALL KNOW THAT STEP ONE OF ANY IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY PLAN LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE A COMPLETE REWORK OF THE ZONING.
OTHERWISE NONE OF THIS MOVES FORWARD.
SO TO TELL PEOPLE THE PUBLIC THAT THIS ISN'T GONNA AFFECT THE ZONING, WELL, TECHNICALLY TRUE, YOU'VE PASSED THIS TONIGHT, IT DOESN'T.
BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING REGARDING IMPLEMENTATION, IT HAS TO START WITH ZONING.
SO IT'S NOT RIGHT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT IT DOESN'T, CUZ THIS PLAN, THIS CHANGE OF PLAN WILL IMPACT ZONING AND IT'S A LIE IF YOU SAY IT AND IT DOESN'T.
THE SECOND THING IS, WHEN I MOVED MY FAMILY TO GOIN IN 19 91, 33 YEARS AGO, A COUPLE THINGS.
IT WAS REALLY RURAL THEN LEMME TELL YOU, NO SUPERMARKET, WE HAD A GAS STATION, TWO TECHNICALLY.
UH, WE HAD A SMALL RURAL GROCERY STORE.
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A LAUNDROMAT AND A DRUG STORE.AND WE MOVED OUT HERE REALIZING THAT, THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA LIVE IN A PEACEFUL RURAL AREA AND YOU'LL WANT TO GET GROCERIES, WELL GUESS WHAT? IF YOU CAN'T BUY IT AT THE LITTLE STORE IN TOWN, YOU GOTTA DRIVE A HALF AN HOUR.
WE MADE THAT CONSCIOUS DECISION IN ORDER TO GET THE LAND THAT WE WANTED TO GET THE PEACE AND QUIET THAT WE WANTED AND TO GET THE ATMOSPHERE THAT WE WANTED.
I DIDN'T EXPECT IT TO STAY THAT WAY.
THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE GROWTH.
BUT YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS AND FACTORING THINGS IN THAT ANY CHANGES YOU MAKE FOR NEW BUSINESS AND NEW RESIDENTS COMING IN HAVE TO BE BALANCED AGAINST THE VALUES AND THE REASONS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE ARE ALREADY LIVE HERE.
WHY DID WE COME? WHY DID WE LIVE HERE? WHY HAVE WE BEEN HERE 20 OR 30 YEARS? ARE YOU GONNA THROW ALL OF THAT OUT SO WE CAN BRING NEW PEOPLE IN FROM HENRICO OR HANOVER AT OUR EXPENSE? IT'S NOT FAIR.
YOU GOTTA DO A BETTER JOB OF BALANCING THIS STUFF.
I'VE BEEN TO PROPERTY CASES LIKE THIS FOR YEARS, AND THE THING THAT I SEE WITHOUT FAIL IS THERE SEEMS TO BE AN OVERWHELMING BIAS TOWARDS NEW BUSINESS, NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN AT THE EXPENSE OF THOSE OF US WHO ARE ALREADY HERE.
AND I WANT YOU TO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THIS.
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? IF NOT, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BOARD, TIME TO GO TO WORK, MS. LASETTE.
OKAY, SO I'LL START US OFF HERE.
I THINK THE ONE THING THAT I HAVE HEARD CONSISTENTLY, SEVERAL THINGS, BUT ONE OF THE MAIN ONES IS TRANSPORTATION.
UM, NARROWING, UM, THE ROADWAYS THROUGH THAT ROAD DIET THING, UM, SEEMS, I THINK'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
WE PROBABLY NEED MORE PARKING THERE AS OPPOSED TO MORE TREES.
BUT I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE IS TRANSPORTATION IN GENERAL THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE COURTHOUSE AREA.
UH, MR. SLOAN DID TALK, UH, TOUCH ON THAT.
WE ARE DUMPING A LOT OF TRAFFIC ONTO, UH, FAIRGROUND ROAD.
WE JUST HAD A VDOT STUDY THAT, UH, THAT VDOT PRODUCED.
UM, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE A ONE TIME STUDY WITH DATA FOR ONE, ONE PERIOD OF TIME, ONE WEEK OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY TO DO, UH, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, UM, ON A CONSISTENT BASIS THERE CUZ CONDITIONS ARE CONTINUING TO CHANGE AND NOT FOR, NOT FOR THE GOOD.
SO I DO THINK THE TRANSPORTATION PIECE IS, IS AN ISSUE.
SECONDLY, UM, I, MR. HASKIN, HASKINS ACTUALLY, UM, MIMICKED, UH, SOMETHING THAT I WAS THINKING EARLIER.
SO HOW DOES THIS ACTUALLY GET IMPLEMENTED? THIS IS A NICE PLAN, PRETTY PICTURES AND ALL THAT.
BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO THE COMP PLAN? HE'S RIGHT, IT'S TWO PARAGRAPHS IN THE CURRENT COMP PLAN FOR THE CENTERVILLE, I MEAN, UH, COURTHOUSE VILLAGE.
SO HOW IT GETS IMPLEMENTED, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ZONING.
ALL THAT IS STILL, THAT'S NOT REALLY TERRIBLY CLEAR TO ME.
UM, I WILL ANSWER THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTIONS FIRST AND THEN I WILL TRANSITION TO OUR TRANSPORTATION MANAGER.
SO WITH REGARDS TO THE IMPLEMENTATION, THERE'S TWO WAYS THAT THE ZONING OR LET'S SAY DESIGN GUIDELINES OF SPECIFIC AREAS THAT ARE PROPOSED, UM, WITHIN THE VILLAGE PLAN COULD CHANGE AND EVOLVE OVER TIME.
THAT'S ONE THROUGH THE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT PROCESS OR THROUGH THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
SO IT WOULD BE, AS A PROPERTY IS GOING THROUGH A PROPOSED PROJECT, IT'S NOT THAT THE COUNTY IS COMING IN AND AUTOMATICALLY REZONING ANYTHING.
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ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS THAT WOULD REFLECT POTENTIALLY MORE GREATER FUTURE FLEXIBILITY WITH USE OF PROPERTY, BUT IT WOULD NOT CHANGE EXISTING DESIGNATIONS.AND THEN WITH, UH, ALSO WE HAVE WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS OF, UM, THIS PLAN, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT SOME PRESERVATION STRATEGIES.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN EXPLORING SOME ADDITIONAL ONES, UM, HOW WE WORK TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES AND RECRUIT AND RETAIN THEM THROUGH A STRATEGIC BUSINESS PLAN.
WE'VE, UH, WORKED WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON THAT.
SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF TOOLS.
UM, REALLY A LOT OF THIS WILL COME AFTER, UM, THE PLAN IF IT'S ADOPTED THIS EVENING.
AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO TRANSPORTATION, I WILL, UM, LET MR. GOIN ANSWER IT OR HOLD ON IF YOU DON'T MIND.
IF YOU DON'T MIND IF MR. CHAIR YES, MA'AM.
BE BEFORE WE GET BACK TO TRANSP, MA'AM.
LET'S SAY THIS GETS APPROVED TONIGHT EXACTLY THE WAY IT'S PRESENTED.
WHAT DOES THE COMP PLAN LOOK LIKE? WHAT ACTUALLY GETS PUT INTO THE COMP PLAN? SO IN THE COMP PLAN WHERE THERE ARE REFERENCES TO THE CURRENT VILLAGE AREA, SPECIFICALLY COURTHOUSE, VILLAGE AREA, THOSE PARAGRAPHS, RIGHT, THOSE TWO PARAGRAPHS, THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE PLAN THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEFORE YOU ALL TONIGHT IF ADOPTED, IT WOULD SUPERSEDE THOSE SECTIONS.
SO THEY, THOSE WOULD NO LONGER APPLY.
THAT WOULD THEN BE YOUR COMP PLAN AMENDMENT, ALMOST LIKE AN APPENDIX OR A WHOLE NOTHER SECTION.
SO THEN THAT BECOMES PART OF YOUR COMP PLAN.
SO IT'S PART OF THAT OVERARCHING GUIDING FRAMEWORK FOR HOW YOU VIEW LAND USE SPECIFICALLY IN AN AREA OF THE COUNTY, BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS.
AND THAT IS ON THE PACKET, PAGE EIGHT, WHICH IS THE NUMBERED P UH, PAGE TWO OF THE PLAN.
IT STARTS WITH AN OPENING PARAGRAPH CALLED PLAN'S OVERVIEW.
AND IT TELLS YOU IN THAT PARAGRAPH THAT GENERALLY THE TEXT AND SO FORTH IN THESE PLAN, IN THIS PLAN IS NOT INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE LITTLE BIT, AS MR. SLOAN SAID, THAT'S IN TODAY'S COMP PLAN.
BUT IT SPECIFICALLY TELLS YOU THE MAPS, LIKE OF THE COURTHOUSE PLAN.
AND WHEN THE COURTHOUSE PLAN IS IN THE LARGER MAP, THOSE ARE REMOVED.
AND THE MAP, THE LAND USE MAP THAT'S IN HERE IS ADOPTED.
SO THERE'S A PARAGRAPH THAT WE CRAFTED FOR THE, UM, EXCUSE ME, UM, TO TELL SOMEONE, HEY, WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS PLUS THAT 2035 LAND USE PLAN, MOST OF IT'S CONSISTENT, BUT IF IT'S NOT CONSISTENT, USE THIS.
AND VERY SPECIFICALLY, THE MAP, TWO DASH 15 AND TWO DASH 16 OF THE COMP PLAN IN ADOPTION ARE GONE TO BE REPLACED BY THE LAND USE MAP IN THIS DOCUMENT.
SO IT, IT DOES GIVE A ROADMAP, HUH? JUST TO MAKE A LITTLE TRANSPORTATION JOKE, UM, OF HOW THIS GOES WITH THE REST OF THE COMP PLAN.
AND, AND WHAT THAT'S SIMILAR TO IS RIGHT AFTER WE DID THE 2035 COMP PLAN, WE THEN DID A WHOLE MAJOR THOROUGH PLAN STUDY.
AND IT'S A DOCUMENT THIS WIDE IN AND OF ITSELF, RIGHT? AND WHEN WE ADOPTED THAT, IT SAID, MM, THIS TAKES THE PLACE OF WHAT'S IN THE COMP PLAN.
SO THIS IS A SIMILAR THING TO WHAT WE'VE DONE, RIGHT? AS WE'VE ADOPTED THAT AMENDED THAT 2035 PLAN.
SO MS. DENIS, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, WHAT THIS IS NOT IS IF THIS PLAN GETS ADOPTED TONIGHT, YOU'RE NOT SET IN A MEETING TWO MONTHS FROM NOW AND WE'RE CHANGING ALL THESE ORDINANCES AND ZONING? NO, SIR.
IT'S SOMEBODY DECIDES TO DEVELOP A PARCEL ON THE CORNER.
THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING AND SAYING, OKAY, THIS IS THE GUIDANCE THAT THE COUNTY, THIS IS A DIRECTION THAT THE COUNTY AND THE CITIZENS HAVE SAID THEY WANT TO GO.
SO IF I WANT A SUCCESSFUL, A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT, PROBABLY NEED TO FOLLOW THIS GUIDANCE.
MR. SPOON, HOWARD, THIS IS INTENDED IF IT'S ADOPTED TO SERVE AS A GUIDEPOST.
SO SOMEONE KNOWING, UM, IF, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING SOMETHING ON THEIR PROPERTY, UM, HOW TO BRING IN A GOOD PROJECT THAT THEN IS MEETING GENERAL EXPECTATIONS.
AND THEN WE CAN REALLY WORK ON THE SPECIFICS THROUGH THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
MS. LASS, DID YOU HAVE A OH YEAH, WE HAVEN'T TOUCHED TRANSPORTATION YET.
SO WHILE WE'RE, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON YOUR COMMENT.
SO AS, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS DECIDE THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY, SO AT WHAT POINT AND HOW DOES IT WORK WITH THE ROAD STUFF? BECAUSE THAT'S NOT, NOT THAT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY.
SO WHEN DOES THAT ENVISION TO BE DEVELOPED AND HOW'S THAT WORK? AND SO ALL THE ROADS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND SHOWED, UM, THEY WERE ALREADY PART OF A APPROVED PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT OR WITHIN THE QUEUE AS FAR AS A VDOT APPROVED PROJECT.
SO THERE'S NOT HYPOTHETICAL ROADS, THERE'S ALSO ROADS THAT ARE LISTED FROM OUR MASTER TRANSPORTATION OR MAJOR THROUGH A FAIR PLAN, SORRY, UM, WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION MAP THAT
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YOU HAVE THERE, AND I CAN BACK UP TO IT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT IS THEORETICAL.SO THEY'RE ALL SOMETHING THAT IS ON A PRE-EXISTING PLAN, WHETHER IT'S AN ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, RIGHT.
A VDOT PROJECT OR A COUNTY APPROVED PLAN.
AND I, I, I PROBABLY WASN'T VERY CLEAR IN MY QUESTION.
SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE COURTHOUSE AREA, THIS ROAD DIET YES MA'AM.
SO THAT TAKES IT, IT TAKES AWAY PARKING THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW FOR OUR BUSINESSES.
UH, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A PROFFERED TURN LANE, UM, FOR RURAL HILL.
SO IT, IT, AND IT CUTS, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WANTS TO STOP PEOPLE FROM DRIVING ON A MAIN THOROUGHFARE.
AND I THINK THAT'S A SERIOUS PROBLEM.
SO WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT ROW DIET THAT IS PRESENTED WITHIN, THERE IS JUST A GENERAL RECOMMENDATION.
IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S, UM, HOLISTICALLY MOVES FORWARD.
SO WITHIN THAT ROAD DIET, THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES FOR SIDEWALK EXTENSIONS, WHICH ALSO GOES TO THE OVERALL CONNECTIVITY OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE AREA.
SO FOR INSTANCE, OKAY, SO THAT WON'T BE IN THE COMP PLAN.
JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE COMP PLAN DOES NOT MEAN IF IT'S, IF THIS IS ADOPTED, IT DOES NOT MEAN IT'S NECESSARILY MOVING FORWARD.
AS YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME THINGS IN OUR MAJOR THROUGH FAIR PLAN THAT WE KNOW ARE POTENTIAL VERY HIGH IN THE SKY, UM, IDEALS.
IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE'RE SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION TOMORROW.
UM, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE ROAD DIET, IT TALKS ABOUT PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY, UH, TO UTILIZE THAT RECOMMENDATION.
ONE IS TO EXTEND THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF GOLAN CARES TO FURTHER THAT CONNECTIVITY, RIGHT? WE SEE A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
UM, SO, SO THERE'S WAYS YOU COULD BREAK IT OUT IN PHASES.
PHASES THAT ARE MEANINGFUL ENOUGH PURPOSE AND VALUE TO THE COUNTY, BUT, AND THEN DON'T CREATE A CONFLICT, RIGHT? SO MS. LAS, I THINK YOUR ORIGINAL QUESTION AROUND THAT WAS HOW WOULD THIS HAPPEN? AND I WOULD SEE IT AS A BOARD WOULD HAVE TO FIND FUNDING AND DECIDE, HEY, WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH A PROJECT ON, ON ROAD DIETING.
AND IF THE BOARD DID NOT SEE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITIZENS WANTED, WE WOULDN'T BE RECOMMENDING IN FUNDING MUCH SIMPLY.
SO, BUT IT DOES BECOME PART OF THE COMP PLAN.
AND THIS BOARD IS IN PARTICULAR, HAS REALLY PAID A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE COMP PLAN AND REALLY TRY NOT TO VIOLATE THE COMP PLAN.
UM, SO NOW WE'VE GOT SOMETHING IN HERE THAT'S GONNA PUT A ROADBLOCK, I THINK IN FUTURE BOARDS.
UM, IT IS A PROPOSED CONCEPT AND THERE'S, UM, SEVERAL CONCEPTS FOR THAT ROAD DIET THAT ARE PRESENTED.
AND AGAIN, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT AT A, AT A TRANSPORTATION WORKSHOP GETS DISCUSSED, THAT THE BOARD IS SOCIALIZING THROUGH THE WORKSHOP PROCESS, THE BUDGETING PROCESS, DETERMINING HOW IT FITS AS FAR AS A PRIORITY FOR VDOT APP FUNDING APPLICATIONS.
CUZ REMEMBER WE ONLY GET SO MANY.
SO AGAIN, I'M GETTING TO THAT.
I AM SUPER FUN WITH THIS CLICKER THERE.
AND I WILL LET MR. GOIN ALSO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS, SEE ON THE ROAD DIET PIECE.
JUST PROVIDE SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
SO RIGHT NOW, RIVER ROAD THROUGH THE COURT, WHAT I CALL GOLAND PROPER IS LIKE 40 FOOT WIDE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY THAT OF ASPHALT ALONE.
IT WOULD BE TAKING THOSE TWO EXISTING LANES THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T ALLOW PARKING STATUTORILY ON.
IT HAS NO PARKING SIGNS UP AT DOWN ROUTE SIX THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE COURTHOUSE AREA.
WE WOULD BE TAKING THAT APPROXIMATE 40 FOOT OF ASPHALT, REMOVING A CHUNK OF IT, APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FOOT ON EITHER SIDE TO ALLOW PARALLEL PARKING AREAS.
SO IT'S NOT REMOVING ANY PARKING PER SE.
ALL IT'S REALLY DOING IS ADDING POTENTIAL STREETSCAPE OPPORTUNITIES, SIDEWALK OPPORTUNITIES, AND ALSO PARALLEL PARKING OPPORTUNITIES.
SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TAKING PARKING THAT'S ALREADY ON SOMEBODY'S LOT, SAY AT THE POST OFFICE OR AT THE, UH, BROTHERS AND ARMS FACILITY THERE IN, IN THAT LITTLE SHOPPING AREA.
IT'S GONNA TAKE THE EXISTING CURB LINE AND PUSH IT CLOSER TO THE CENTER OF THE ROAD.
AND ONE THING WE WOULD LOOK AT DOING TO, TO ADDRESS ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT A, THAT A CITIZEN BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE HEAVY TRAFFIC, THE HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC WE DO SEE THROUGH ROUTE SIX, THOSE LANES WOULD HAVE TO BE VDOT MINIMUM.
SO YOU'RE TALKING 12, 13 FOOT OF A TRAVEL WAY MORE THAN ADEQUATE FOR LARGE TRUCKS STILL ALSO PROVIDING THAT EIGHT FOOT OR SO FOR THE PARALLEL PARKING FACILITIES.
UH, SO THE, THE CONCEPT OF TRYING TO KEEP UP, UH, UH, AS, AS THIS COMMUNITY GROWS, UM, IN REAL TIME, I REALLY THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO BE PAYING ATTENTION TO AND NOT JUST DO A SNAPSHOT.
YOU KNOW, ONCE EVERY YEAR OR WHATEVER.
UM, SO THE FAIRGROUND CORRIDOR STUDY, WE DID LOOK AT THE YEAR 2022 DATA, BUT WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE YEAR 4, 20 42 DATA PROJECTING SOME
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OF THIS OUT.WE WERE ABLE TO INCORPORATE TO THE BEST DEGREE POSSIBLE.
KNOWING THE COURTHOUSE PLAN WAS STILL KIND OF A WAYS FROM APPROVAL AT THAT POINT, RIGHT.
INCORPORATING SOME OF THIS, UH, ADDITIONAL DENSITY, SO TO SPEAK, IN THAT GROWTH RATE THAT WAS HEAVILY DISCUSSED AT THAT BOARD MEETING.
UM, IT WAS INCORPORATED AGAIN TO THE BEST ABILITY POSSIBLE.
BUT AS EACH ONE OF THESE PLANS COMES FORWARD, WE HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS POLICY IN OUR CODE THAT WE'RE PRETTY MUCH FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT WE REQUIRE A TRAFFIC STUDY.
SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE THOSE ADDITIONAL DATA POINTS AS WE GET THIS DEVELOPMENT BUILT OUT.
AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING WE PROBABLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT OFFLINE, BUT IT'S JUST, I THINK WE NEED TO DO MORE IN ANALYZING THE TRAFFIC THROUGH, WELL, A LOT OF GLA BUT CERTAINLY THIS AREA SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT TONIGHT.
UM, AND NOT JUST DO SNAPSHOTS, UH, BECAUSE THIS TRAFFIC IS CONSTANTLY CHANGING AND WILL CHANGE.
WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING IN, OTHER THINGS MAY BE HAPPENING HERE.
SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT.
MR. VAS, UM, THIS QUESTIONS EITHER FOR MS. ONIS OR, UH, MR. RABB.
UM, THE MINIMAL SETBACKS, UH, PROPOSED IN I THINK SLIDE 74, UM, IN THE VILLAGE CORE.
CAN YOU GIVE EXAMPLES OF OTHER COMMUNITIES LIKE OURS THAT HAVE USED THAT? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A VERY ATTRACTIVE WAY TO DO IT.
BUT THE KEY IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THE PRECEDENT AND HOW CAN WE SHOW IT? SURE.
AND YOU ALREADY DO HAVE SOME HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT WERE MUCH CLOSER AND WE, WE WALKED IT.
AND THAT'S HOW WE KIND OF CAME TO THAT.
IT SEEMS LIKE IF WE WANT TO HONOR THOSE EXISTING HISTORIC STRUCTURES, WE WANT TO KEEP THAT BUILDING PATTERN.
UH, AND SO, YOU KNOW, A COMMUNITY THAT I WORKED IN FOR MANY YEARS WAS, WAS THE TOWN OF CULP PEPPER, UH, VERY RICH, HISTORIC DOWNTOWN.
AND THOSE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, ARE ABOUT EIGHT FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK, UH, THE HALLWAY SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT WINDOW SHOPPING.
AND IT ENCOURAGES, UM, THAT, THAT KIND OF VIBRANT MIXED USE DISTRICT WHERE YOU, YOU MIGHT GO OUT TO EAT, YOU MIGHT DO SOME WINDOW SHOPPING AFTERWARDS.
AND SO BY BRINGING THOSE BUILDINGS UP CLOSER, YOU CREATE WHAT THE HISTORIC STOREFRONT FEEL WHERE YOU HAVE LARGE PANS OF GLASS AND KIND OF THAT ENCOURAGING ATMOSPHERE TO LOOK INTO.
SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE INTENT.
ANYTHING ELSE? BOARD MEMBERS? MR. LUMPKINS? THANK YOU.
UH, UH, KIND OF PIGGY PIGGYBACKING ON, ON WHAT MS. MS. LASETTE WAS ASKING ABOUT, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT THOUGHTS HERE.
UH, MR. SLOAN AND MR. HASKINS.
I, I, WE HEAR YOU AND, AND I, I DON'T THINK ANY, OR AT LEAST YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, THE ZONING IS GOING TO CHANGE, BUT I THINK, UH, SOMETIMES PEOPLE GET CONCERNED THAT THE BOARD IS COMING IN AND DOING ZONING.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, THIS IS NOT CHANGING ANY ZONING OF ANY PROPERTY.
AND, AND THE FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THE VISION IS NOT FOR THIS TO ASK THIS BOARD TO START TAKING SOME ACTIVE STEPS TO REZONE PROPERTY ON OUR OWN VOLITION.
OUR, OUR INTENT IS THIS WOULD HAPPEN IN AN ORGANIC MANNER.
ORGANIC MEANING THAT PROJECTS WOULD COME FORWARD.
UH, WE MAY INITIATE, UM, SOME ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS AS WE START TO SEE PROJECTS, UM, INCREASE, JUST MAYBE TRYING TO LOOK AT SOME DESIGN GUIDELINES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO, YOU KNOW, BETTER FOSTER, UM, UH, SOME CENTRAL TENANTS THAT WE WANNA SEE IN PROJECTS.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD COME THROUGH WITH PROJECTS BECAUSE THIS IS INTENDED TO BE THE GUIDEPOST, AS I MENTIONED.
SO, SO JUST SOME HYPOTHETICALS MAYBE WITH SOME, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOME IMAGINED FACTS.
BUT I, I KNOW WE'VE HAD COMMUNITY MEMBERS SAY, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY CONTINUING CARE IN THIS AREA.
WHY, WHY DO I HAVE TO MOVE TO HENRICO? PARTICULARLY, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
SO IF I'M A DEVELOPER, NOW WE HAVE LANDOWNERS, BUT I'M A DEVELOPER AND I'M LOOKING FOR LAND, OR I'M A LANDOWNER LOOKING FOR A DEVELOPER TO DO THIS PROJECT, AND I, AFTER THIS GETS ADOPTED, IF THIS GETS ADOPTED AFTER IT GETS ADOPTED AND I WANNA MEET WITH STAFF AND TALK ABOUT, HEY, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M TALKING TO SOME LANDOWNERS AND THIS PART OF THE VILLAGE, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE AN INTEREST IN A CONTINUING CARE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.
WHAT, WHAT ARE THE COUNTY'S REQUIREMENTS AND EXPECTATIONS FOR THAT? DOES THIS GIVE YOU ANY MORE DIRECTION TO GIVE TO THAT LANDOWNER SLASH DEVELOPER THAN WE HAVE BEFORE? YES, IT DOES BECAUSE THERE'S MORE FLEXIBILITY AFFORDED.
UM, AS YOU'LL NOTE, THERE'S SOME AREAS WITHIN THE CORE THAT ALLOW ONE TO THREE STORIES.
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THE CLUSTER HOUSING RECOMMENDATIONS AS WELL.SO IT REALLY GIVES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR STAFF TO WORK WITH AN APPLICANT OR SOMEONE IN A PRE-APP PERIOD TO THEN DEVELOP A THOUGHTFUL AND INTENTIONAL APPLICATION.
BUT ALSO TOO, IT GIVES US THAT FLEXIBILITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT WE DON'T THEN HAVE TO COME TO YOU AS STAFF AND SAY IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH COMP PLAN.
BECAUSE IF IT IS, UM, COMPLIMENTARY OF OR COMPATIBLE WITH THE CENTRAL TENANTS OF, UM, THIS PROPOSED PLAN IF ADOPTED, THEN IT THEN INHERENTLY IS CONSISTENT WITH COMP PLAN BECAUSE THIS IS A COMP PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO ARE THERE GOING TO BE LAYERS? CUZ EVERY TIME I'VE MET WITH Y'ALL AND I'VE HAD FOLKS ASK ME THE SAME THING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS A FOUNDATION.
AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING LAYERS TO THIS.
SO YOU TALKED ABOUT SOME THINGS THAT ARE GONNA JUST GO ORGANICALLY AND OBVIOUSLY ZONING CHANGES, BUT A TRANSPORTATION LAYER WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MY, UH, PEOPLE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE MOVING IN HERE, AND MAYBE THIS IS NOT WHAT EXISTING FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS, LIKE, BUT THERE IS TALK ABOUT DEVELOPING BIKING NETWORKS AND WALKWAY NETWORKS.
AS MORE PEOPLE MOVE IN HERE, WE WANT TO HAVE MAYBE EVEN PUBLIC PARK AREAS AND THINGS.
SO IS THERE GOING TO BE, IN THE FUTURE, A A, AN ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION LAYER THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING ON IN THE MONTHS AHEAD TO LAY ON TOP OF THIS? I THINK, UH, TRANSPORTATION, AS YOU WELL KNOW, UM, WITH YOUR WORK ON THE TPO, IT'S AN ITERATIVE PROCESS.
SO WE'RE CONTINUALLY ASSESSING THAT AND USING THIS AS, UM, A GENERAL STARTING POINT.
UM, WE'VE ALSO HAD DISCUSSIONS INTERNALLY AS STAFF THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY TIME THAT WE START TALKING WITH YOU ALL AS A BOARD, UM, ABOUT THE MAJOR THROUGH FAIR PLAN AND MAYBE LOOKING AT UPDATES.
CAUSE THAT WAS LAST UPDATED IN 2018.
SO I THINK WE'RE GETTING AT THAT MARK.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT FIVE YEARS OLD NOW, SO I THINK IT'S PART OF A BROADER PITCHER.
BUT DON'T YOU NEED THAT TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO A DEVELOPER INTELLIGENT, YES, WE NEED THE FOUNDATIONAL PIECE.
YOU WANT TO COME IN HERE AND DO THIS OR THAT HERE.
AND YOU'RE TALKING TO OTHER DEVELOPERS AND YOU, THE, THE VISION IS TO BUILD OUT A, A WALKABILITY AND A BIKING AND, AND MULTIMODAL OPPORTUNITIES IN THE VILLAGE.
AND SO WITH THIS GUIDING DOCUMENT, IT HELPS US, UM, ENCOURAGE AND REALLY PROMOTE A FITTING PROJECT THAT MEETS OUR INTENTIONS AND NEEDS AS WELL AS A DEVELOPER'S INTENTIONS AND NEEDS.
SO THAT IT'S MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.
SO OF COURSE SOMEONE MAY WANT TO COME AND DEVELOP, BUT THEN WE HAVE THE ABILITY, BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN THE GUIDE, UM, HERE AND OUR VISION TO SAY, WELL, HOW CAN WE HAVE SOME AMENITY OR IMPROVE SOME EXISTING CONNECTIVITY? UM, AND, AND TYING THAT IN WITH SOME PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT OR EXPANDING SOME SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY AS WELL, OR JUST HOW WE'RE DOING SOME GENERALIZED ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID WHEN YOU SAID WHAT MEETS THE DEVELOPERS AND THE LANDOWNERS AND OUR INTENTIONS.
SO I THINK THAT A CITIZEN LOOKING AT THIS, THIS IS A FOUNDATION, THERE'S MORE LAYERS.
WHAT ARE OUR INTENTIONS? I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT AREN'T CLEAR WHAT OUR INTENTIONS ARE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE WANT WALKABILITY.
SO MY QUESTION IS, HOW IS THE COMMUNITY, HOW ARE THE PUBLIC GONNA KNOW WHEN SOMETHING IS COMING ALONG IN THIS FUTURE PROCESS THAT'S GONNA HAVE AN IMPACT? IS, IS THERE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SOME, I MEAN, WE'RE GONNA HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOTICES FOR ZONING CASES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT IF WE'RE GETTING READY TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS THAT ARE GONNA IMPACT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR INTENTIONS FOR THE WALKABILITY AND MM-HMM.
AND WHEN SOME IT'S ASKED WHY ARE YOU DOING SOMETHING OR WHAT THE PURPOSE IS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
AND AS YOU KNOW, STAFF DOES ATTEND ALL COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN SOME CAPACITY.
SO THERE'S THAT OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE HAVE THE ABILITY, YOU KNOW, WELL IN ADVANCE OF ANYTHING COMING BEFORE ANY BODIES TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
AND, AND MAYBE I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION.
I WAS JUST THINKING, YOU KNOW, A SOLUTION THAT I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ANY RESOLUTION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PACKET, RIGHT? IT HAS OUR, OUR STRATEGIES AND GOALS AND HOW THIS PROJECT IMPACTS THOSE.
MAYBE SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR LAND USE CASES THAT YOU HAD FOR, IF IT'S IN ONE OF OUR VILLAGES, THESE ARE OUR STRATEGIES AND GOALS FOR OUR VILLAGES.
HOW A BUSINESS PROJECT POTENTIALLY IMPACT OR CAN IT BENEFIT GET US THERE.
SO MAYBE JUST SOMETHING TO KINDA KEEP IT UP THERE.
SO I MEAN, AND AGAIN, WE HAVE THE VISION ELEMENTS FROM THE PLAN AS WELL AS THE, UM, COMMUNITY GOALS AND VALUES.
SO THERE'S A VARIETY OF WAYS TO TRY TO MEASURE AND BENCHMARK HOW WE'RE DOING WITH US.
AND, AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, I'M, I'M, I'M
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IN FAVOR OF THIS.AND ONE OF THE FRUSTRATIONS I HAD WHEN WE HAD REED MARSH IN RURAL HILL WAS I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST HAPPENING ORGANICALLY WITHOUT ANY KIND OF VISION.
AND SO I'M GLAD TO SEE THIS VISION COME TOGETHER THROUGH ALL THIS EFFORT.
LIKE, AGAIN, WHAT MS. LAST LIGHT WAS SAYING, WELL, HOW DO THESE NEXT KIND OF IMPORTANT STEPS HAPPEN? BECAUSE I THINK ALSO FROM A PERSPECTIVE, THIS IS A DIFFERENT, WE'RE IN A DIFFERENT, WE'RE A GROWING COUNTY.
WE'RE LIVING IN A GROWING REGION.
AND, UM, AND, AND THESE ARE GROWING PAINS.
AND I DON'T THINK THIS BOARD AND PRIOR BOARDS HAVE BEEN TOO KEEN ON WHAT I WOULD SAY IS HEAVY HANDED ZONING.
BUT I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE LIVING CLOSER TOGETHER, MORE PEOPLE LIVING CLOSER TOGETHER, THIS IS THE TARGETED VILLAGE.
I THINK THE EXPECTATION AND, AND REALLY TO, TO HAVE A HEALTHY VILLAGE, THE REQUIREMENT WOULD BE FOR US TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A HEAVY HANDED PLAN.
THE DOWNSIDE OF THAT IS ALMOST FEELS LIKE WE'RE PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS BY, YOU KNOW, THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE, BUT I LIKE, AND THIS IS WHEN WE, A YEAR AGO WE, THIS, I LIKE THE IDEA OF EARLIER ITERATIONS WHERE WE WERE ACTUALLY DRAWING OUT ON MAPS, THIS PROPOSED ZONING THAT PROPOSED ZONING.
I'M GLAD WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THAT AND DOING MORE WHAT I THINK WE ARE CALLING FORM-BASED ZONING MM-HMM.
SO I, I THINK WE'RE IN THE RIGHT STEP TO GET A PLAN AND A VISION THAT ALLOWS FLEXIBILITY.
BUT I, I DO THINK IT'S GONNA BE CRITICAL THAT THE COMMUNITY KNOW ABOUT MILESTONES ALONG THE WAY, WHERE THINGS ARE GONNA IMPACT.
CUZ THIS, THIS IS A 20, THIS IS TRULY A 20 YEAR PLAN.
AND I WOULD SAY MR. HASKINS, UM, WE, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS CALLED FOR A WHILE.
THIS IN CENTERVILLE IS A GROWTH AREA.
SO THAT, THAT SHIP SAILED A WHILE AGO.
SO NOW I THINK IT'S A QUESTION OF DOING RIGHT BY THE COMMUNITY, DOING RIGHT BY THE NEWCOMERS AND, AND, AND OUR, AND OUR BUSINESSES AND, AND, AND THE NEED, UH, AND, AND GOOD, GOOD POTENTIAL FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO I THINK THESE PIECES ARE FITTING TOGETHER WELL SO FAR, BUT I, I DO HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO A JOB OF BRINGING SOME CLARITY AS TO HOW LAYERS THESE LAYERS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE GONNA GET ADDED IN THE FUTURE.
AND, AND SO TO EXPAND ON THE LAYERS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS OF THE BUSINESS PLAN.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LOOKING AT AN OVERLAY DISTRICT RECOMMENDATIONS AT, UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION STRATEGIES, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING, ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, UM, AS PROJECTS COME THROUGH.
SO AGAIN, IT, THERE'S A LAYERED PROCESS THAT WOULD, UM, MOVE FORWARD IF THE PLAN IS ADOPTED.
MR. WATERS DID, DID YOUR, DID YOUR ROAD DIAGRAM SHOW THE FAIRGROUND ROAD EXTENSION WHEN Y'ALL WENT BACK TO THAT A LITTLE WHILE AGO? I DID.
DID IT SHOW THE FAIR SHOW FAIRGROUND ROAD EXTENSION? OKAY.
AND HOW DOES THE PUBLIC LEARN ABOUT OUR PLANS ONCE, ONCE THAT FAIRGROUND ROAD EXTENSION HAPPENS? I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME LAND AND THE NEXT BOARD'S GONNA HAVE SOME, I THINK SOME GREAT OPPORTUNITIES AND IMPORTANT DECISIONS ON WHAT TO DO WITH THAT COUNTY OWNED LAND THERE.
UM, HOW DOES, HOW DOES THE, HOW'S THE PUBLIC GONNA BE ALERTED TO, TO THOSE THINGS WHEN THE EXTENSION GETS PUT IN? ABSOLUTELY.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH MRS. WORLEY, UM, FROM OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, AND SHE WILL BE ENGAGING OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY TO WORK ON STRATEGIES FOR MARKETING THOSE PROPERTIES FOR RESALE AND, UM, OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THE COUNTY CAN ACTUALLY GET AN ROI AND SEE SOME, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS, UH, RECRUITMENT AND ALSO WORKING ON RETENTION STRATEGIES AS WELL FOR OUR EXISTING BUSINESSES.
AND, AND I'LL, I'LL, WHAT YOU SAID WAS KIND OF A CRITICAL PIECE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY, I THINK WE SEE IN THIS COUNTY A GROWING ROLE FOR OUR ED.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S BEEN PUBLICIZED A LOT, BUT I, I'VE BEEN HEARING THAT BUBBLE UP IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.
THAT'S, THAT'S A CRITICAL PIECE OF THIS AS WELL.
AND ANOTHER PATH OF, OF COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT ENGAGEMENT THROUGH, THROUGH ANOTHER BODY THAT, UM, I THINK LOOKING FORWARD TO UTILIZING IT.
UM, THE, I JUST HAVE ONE CLARIFYING QUESTION.
SO WE, YOU, YOU MENTIONED MUTUAL BENEFIT BETWEEN DEVELOPERS AND THE COMMUNITY MM-HMM.
WE BRING BACK ANY ISSUES RELATING TO ZONING, RELATING TO PLANNING TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
SO WE, WE HAVEN'T MADE A UNILATERAL DECISION AS A BOARD TO SAY, OH YEAH, NOW IT'S 50 50.
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I JUST WOULD LIKE YOU TO DISCUSS THAT IF YOU CAN.HAPPY TO CLARIFY THAT AND THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
SO YES, AS APPLICATIONS WOULD MOVE FORWARD, ANYTHING REGARDING THE ZONING, ANY KIND OF CHANGES, ANYTHING THAT'S A SETBACK CONSIDERATION, UM, ANY SORT OF INCREASE IN INTENSIVE USE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD AND SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD APPROVES.
UM, W WHAT I WAS UM, REFERRING TO WITH MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE POTENTIALLY A RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT MOVE FORWARD, HAVING THAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION TO SAY, WELL, WE HAVE A PLAN THAT CALLS OUT FOR PUBLIC SPACES.
HAVING THAT CONVERSATION TO SAY, HERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN FOSTER THAT.
OR REQUIRING OR HAVING THAT, UM, INTENTIONAL CONVERSATION ON SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY FOR A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OR JUST SOME, UM, ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS AND CHARACTERISTICS THAT THEN COMPLEMENT AN EXISTING LOOK AND FEEL.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THAT HELPS US TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL AND WE CAN HAVE THOSE STRATEGIC CONVERSATIONS IN THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS.
AND AGAIN, ALL MAJOR DEVELOPMENT, IT'S APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
MAY, MAY I ASK MR. RAP SOMETHING JUST QUICK? SURE.
SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE BIG PICTURE OF ALL THIS, THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, IT'S, AND, AND WE'VE KNOWN THAT WE WANT TO DRAW CENTERVILLE AND, AND OUR, OUR TWO GROWTH AREAS, CENTERVILLE AND THE COURTHOUSE.
AND IT'S ALWAYS BEEN PITCHED AT BE SMART ABOUT THIS, DO THIS WELL, TO TAKE PRESSURE OFF OF THE OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY TO TAKE GROWTH PRESSURE OFF THE OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
AND THE REASON I CALLED YOU UP IS, CUZ I KNOW WHEN WE MET YOU, YOU'VE WORKED IN ALMAR AND CULP PEPPER AND, AND YOU HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE.
I'M, I'M, I'M SKEPTICAL THAT, THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE THAT MUCH PRESSURE OFF OF OTHER AREAS AND MAY MAYBE, I THINK I'D LIKE TO TALK TO STAFF ABOUT MAYBE SOME TOOLS AND MECHANISMS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE.
BUT FOR GENERAL QUESTIONS FOR YOU IS, IS THAT, IS THAT A REALISTIC THING FOR A COMMUNITY AND A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO EXPECT THAT IF, IF WE DO OUR VILLAGES WELL AND WE, AND WE TRY TO DRIVE A DENSITY THERE OR WE TRY TO BE ATTRACTIVE A VILLAGE AND AND FOCUS ON THAT, DOES IT REALLY TAKE GROWTH PRESSURE OFF OF THE REST IN THE RURAL PARTS OF, OF A COMMUNITY? I, I THINK IT CERTAINLY CAN.
UH, YOU SAID THE, THE, THE, THE CHALLENGING WORD THERE IS DENSITY AND IT, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE, THE COMMITMENT OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE BOARD TOO, HOLDING THAT LINE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF, LOT OF DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT YOU CAN USE, UH, THROUGH RURAL AREA ZONING, UM, TRANSFER DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, AND THERE'S A, THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SOME COMMUNITIES.
UH, UM, SO IT REALLY, REALLY IS ABOUT THE APPETITE AND HOW COMMITTED Y'ALL ARE AS A COMMUNITY AND A BOARD TO ENSURING THAT DEVELOPMENT IS WHERE IT IS.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THE DENSITY STRUGGLE IS, IS PRETTY MUCH EVERYWHERE I'VE EVER WORKED.
NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THE DENSITY IN THEIR BACKYARD, BUT ALSO IF YOU, IF IT DOESN'T GO SOMEWHERE, THEN IT JUST SPRAWLS OUT.
UM, AND SO IT'S, UH, OFTENTIMES IT'S A, IT'S A SLOW PROCESS AND YOU MIGHT SEE THINGS BUILD OUT AND THEN REDEVELOP RATHER THAN SPREAD UP TO A NEW LAND.
AND SO, UH, IT'S KIND OF A CYCLICAL PROCESS, BUT, UH, I NEED TO BE KIND OF COMMITTED AS A COMMUNITY.
IT'S, IT'S A CHALLENGE CUZ I LOOK AT HANOVER AND I SEE HOW THEY START, YOU KNOW, MANY YEARS AGO THEY LOOKED LIKE THEY WERE FOCUSED ON THE 95 CORRIDOR AND, BUT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE SPRAWL IS HAPPENING A LOT IN PARTS OF HANOVER.
AND I THINK MAYBE A UNIQUE CHALLENGE THAT YOU HAVEN'T FACED IN OTHER PLACES YOU'VE WORKED IS UBIQUITOUS INTERNET.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE SPENDING ALL THIS MONEY TO HAVE INTERNET EVERYWHERE.
AND UBIQUITOUS INTERNET IS, IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER PRESSURE POINT.
BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING ELSE IN THERE.
WHAT'S IT, IT'S A TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS.
IT'S A TDR PROGRAM THAT SOME LOCALITIES DO HAVE THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO YEAH.
THAT'S GONNA COME BACK UP AND IT ALLOWS THAT DEVELOPMENT PRESSURE TO BE PUT BACK INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AREA RATHER THAN ON THE RURAL PROPERTIES.
I THINK THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS PAY ATTENTION TO THAT CUZ THAT'S GONNA COME BACK UP.
THERE'S SOME GREAT CASES THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF YEAH.
VIRGINIA THAT HAVE HAD SUCCESS WITH THEM.
AS A DISCUSSION, NOT AS SOMETHING MISS MS. LAS THAT'S OVER THERE CRINGING.
NOT AS SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA DO, BUT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, I'LL TOUCH ON A COUPLE THINGS HERE REASONABLY QUICKLY.
UM, I'M NOT SURE WHO THIS IS DIRECTED TO, BUT AS I SAW SOME OF THOSE MAPS, IF YOU TOOK OUT THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS, YOU TOOK OUT REYNOLDS COLLEGE, YOU TOOK OUT ALL THE COUNTY FACILITIES, YOU TOOK OUT ALL THE EXISTING BUSINESSES, YOU TOOK OUT ALL THE EXISTING HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, YOU TOOK OUT THE RECENTLY REZONED HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS.
HOW MUCH ACREAGE IS THIS PLAN REALLY GONNA DIRECT?
RIGHT? IT'S, I DON'T NEED AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR WHAT ARE WE REALLY? YEAH.
THERE IS ACTUALLY A CHART WITHIN,
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UM, THE INTRODUCTION OF, UM, BOTH PLANS ON PAGE SEVEN THAT ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT A COMMUNITY SNAPSHOT AND WHAT'S DEVELOPED VERSUS UNDEVELOPED, UM, FOR BOTH AREAS.AND, UM, WE WORKED WITH OUR GI S UM, SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN HOUSE.
AND SO FOR COURTHOUSE, UM, THERE IS, SORRY, UM, READING VERY TINY PRINT HERE, FIVE ACRES, 10 ACRES, 20 ACRES.
WHAT, WHAT DO WE, I MEAN WE'RE DEVELOPING A VERY DETAILED PLAN FOR A COUPLE OF ACRES HERE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL FOR THAT ANYWAY.
YOU KNOW WHAT, NEVERMIND, I'LL JUST WITHDRAW THE QUESTION.
UM, SO IT SHOWS A POTENTIAL POPULATION INCREASE OF 563.
AND THEN I HEARD, UH, MENTIONED VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT BYPASS CONSIDERATION.
WAS THAT REALLY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT HERE? I KNOW IN CVILLE WE'VE GOT BYPASS ROADS NORTH AND SOUTH ON BROAD STREET TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE PRESSURE ON THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE.
WAS THAT DISCUSSED AT ALL IN THIS PROCESS OR IT WAS LOOSELY DISCUSSED? I WILL SAY IT'S SIX AND ONE HALF A DOZEN ANOTHER.
UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU CREATE A BYPASS, ESPECIALLY IN SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS CORRIDOR, UM, THE WAY I'D LIKE TO THINK OF COURTHOUSE VILLAGE IS ALMOST LIKE A MAIN STREET.
UM, AND WHEN YOU CREATE A BYPASS, YOU OFTENTIMES CAN INADVERTENTLY DIVERT BUSINESS AWAY FROM YOUR SMALL BUSINESSES, WHICH ALSO MAKES RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION MORE OF A CHALLENGE.
I MEAN, UM, INSTEAD OF ALL THE WAY IT'S WORKING IS THE THROUGH TRAFFIC JUST KEEPS ON MOTORING AND THE FOLKS THAT WANNA STOP SOMEWHERE, GET OFF THE MAIN ROAD YES.
AND DO ALL THEIR SHOPPING AND DON'T JUMP ON BACK AND FORTH ON THE MAIN ROAD KIND OF THING.
THE CHALLENGE IS WITH WHERE COURTHOUSE IS SITUATED AND WITH ANY KIND OF TYPICAL MAIN STREET OR TOWN, UM, TYPE CENTER, WHEN YOU HAVE THAT MAIN STREET FEEL IS YOU HAVE TO WANT TO GET THERE AND YOU HAVE TO WANT TO GO.
SO WHEN YOU CREATE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO NOT GO THROUGH THERE, UM, LET FOLKS BE EXPOSED TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE THINGS THERE, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO, UM, HAVE THAT VIBRANCY FOR YOUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST IN MY EXPERIENCE.
ALL RIGHT, WELL THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I DON'T THINK SHOULD BE COMPLETELY LOST IN THE WHOLE DISCUSSION HERE.
UM, AND IT KIND OF SEGUES INTO MY NEXT ONE, WHICH IS THIS IS A LONG RANGE, 10 20 YEAR PLAN TRAFFIC COUNTS THROUGH THAT VILLAGE CORRIDOR.
THAT ROUTE SIX IS ONLY GONNA INCREASE FAIRLY DRAMATICALLY AND BY SHRINKING AND THEN HAVING PEOPLE DO BACK IN TO DO PARALLEL PARKING AND THROW THE DOOR OPEN AND WHAT IT IT'S GONNA IN, IN MY MIND, WE'LL SLOW THE THROUGHPUT WHILE WE'RE INCREASING THE TRAFFIC COUNTS.
AND I SEE THAT AS DEVELOPING SOME FRICTION OVER TIME, BUT THAT'S JUST A, A COMMON MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT DIRECTING DEVELOPMENT, WHERE IT BELONGS IN THE VILLAGE AREAS AND THE PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
AND, AND WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF INTEREST IN THE PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS IN THE VILLAGES.
AND YOU EITHER HAVE A PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, OR YOU DEVELOP AD HOC AND HAVING A PLAN IS BETTER THAN HAVING NO PLAN.
THEY SAY IF YOU, UH, IF YOU FAILED A PLAN, YOU PLAN TO FAIL, THAT KIND OF THING.
BUT, BUT SO THE IDEA OF HAVING A PLAN AND THEN THE QUESTION BECOMES, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS A LESS THAN PERFECT PLAN, MAYBE IT'S A GOOD PLAN, BUT IT'S NOT A PERFECT PLAN.
UM, SHOULD IT BE ADOPTED? AND IF IT IS, THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH IT? AND AS WE ALL KNOW, IF THIS BECOMES AN AMENDMENT THAT A COMP PLAN, A COMP PLAN IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW TO BE REVISITED AT LEAST EVERY FIVE YEARS, AND IT COULD BE EVERY YEAR.
SO THIS WOULDN'T BE CHISELING GRANITE.
AND IF IT'S A GOOD PLAN, THAT'S PROBABLY A STEP FORWARD AND WE CAN, WHAT IS IT MR. CHAIR ITERATE TO? GREAT.
WE CAN LOOK AT THIS AS FREQUENTLY AS WE'D LIKE OR AT LEAST EVERY FIVE YEARS AND SEE IF THERE'S SOME MATERIAL CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE.
SO WHILE WE'RE DIRECTING THE GROWTH HERE, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF INTEREST.
HAVING A PLAN IS PROBABLY BETTER THAN NOT HAVING A PLAN.
UH, THAT PLAN IS FLEXIBLE AND CAN BE AMENDED GOING FORWARD DEPENDING ON THE HOW THINGS CHANGE AND CAN BE RE REVISITED.
AND THEN OF COURSE, ANY IMPLEMENTATION OF IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY ASPECTS OF THIS WOULD REQUIRE A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF WE'RE CHANGING THE ORDINANCE OR WE'RE APPROVING A DEVELOPMENT OR REZONING, ANY OF THOSE, ALL OF THOSE WOULD COME BACK FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, WITH AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE DID ANY IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, BUT AGAIN, HAVING A GOOD PLAN IS PROBABLY BETTER THAN NO PLAN.
PERFECT PLANS IF THEY EXIST, ARE OUT THERE SOMEWHERE.
BUT, UM, WE CAN ALWAYS ITERATE TOWARD THAT IF WE CAN OVER TIME.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF MY COMMENTS, MR. CHAIR, I WANNA SHARE, I'LL YIELD BACK.
YOU ARE SPOT ON MR. PETERSON WITH YOUR COMMENTS.
SO, SO I I'M VERY GLAD TO SEE WHERE WE ARE.
UM, THERE ARE NO PERFECT PLANS, UH, EVEN IF WE THINK THERE ARE.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT I, I I, I RECOGNIZE THE CITIZEN INPUT
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AND HOW, AND I DO BELIEVE, AND WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF, UM, WE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF CRITICISM ACTUALLY THAT, UH, STAFF HAS NOT TAKEN CITIZEN INPUT INTO ACCOUNT.AND I CAN CATEGORICALLY SAY WORKING AS CLOSELY WITH STAFF AS I DO, AS THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS MR. LUMPKIN'S PROBLEM A YEAR AGO, UH, WHEN IT WAS DISTRICT THREE.
AND NOW THIS IS, I'M, I HAVE, UH, GRACIOUSLY, UH, INHERITED THIS THROUGH REDISTRICTING.
SO AS I SIT HERE, UM, THIS DECISION, I WILL BE, HOPEFULLY IF EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT IN NOVEMBER, I WILL BE, UH, ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT DECISION FOR THE NEXT AT LEAST FOUR YEARS, WELL, AT MOST FOUR YEARS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I MOVE TO THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THE COURTHOUSE SMALL VILLAGE AREA PLAN AS PRESENTED.
MR. PETERSON? MR. CHAIR, UM, IN THE RECOMMENDED, UH, NEXT STEPS OR THE IMPLEMENTATION, WE'VE GOT FOUR CATEGORIES, TRANSPORTATION, HISTORIC RESOURCES, LAND USE, PARK REC.
UM, PRIORITY ONE UNDER TRANSPORTATION IS THE ROAD DIET.
UM, ONE CONSIDERATION IF THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SUPPORT FOR THE ROAD DIET WOULD BE TO SAY, LET'S ADOPT A PLAN BUT X OUT PRIORITY NUMBER ONE ON THE TRANSPORTATION.
ANOTHER WAY TO GO IS JUST ADOPT IT AS PRESENTED AND THEN DEAL WITH THE ROAD DIET GOING FORWARD.
UM, I THINK I'D LIKE TO AMEND MY MOTION.
SO NO, I, NO, I HEAR, BUT I DO THINK IF THAT'S IN THE PRIORITIES, WHICH IS LISTED, UH, IF ON PAGE 43, THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
SO I MOVE, WE'RE MAKING SAUSAGES NOW.
SO JUST TO, LET'S LOOK AT THE ATTORNEY, JUST HAVE SOME CONCERNS.
DO YOU ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT MR. PETERSON RECOMMENDED? YES.
THE SECOND, DO YOU ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? GIVE ME TO THE PAGE NUMBER AGAIN.
IS IT THE PDF 43 OR THE, UH, ON YOUR PACKET? SO TRANSPORTATION PRIORITY, RECOMMEND THE NEXT STEPS.
PRIORITY ONE IS THE ROAD DIET AND THE MOTION IS TO STRIKE THAT.
PRIORITY ONE, DO YOU JUST TAKE IT OUT OR MOVE IT, MOVE IT DOWN IN PRIORITY? I I, MY MOTION IS TO TAKE IT OUT OUT OF THE RECOMMENDED NEXT STEPS.
BUT WE HAVE, ALRIGHT, WELL LET'S, LET ME JUST COME, I'LL, I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE ALL NIGHT AND GET TANGLED UP IN A PARLIAMENTARY DILEMMA, BUT, BUT, UM, I JUST WANT, I WANNA MAKE SURE FROM THE TRANSPORTATION'S PERSPECTIVE, AND THIS IS FRUSTRATING, BUT I SEE, UM, I'VE SEEN IT ALL THE TIME IN THE TPO AND, AND WHAT'S GOING ON IS THIS IS WHAT GETS FUNDED MM-HMM.
IT SIMPLY COMES OUT OF A PRIORITY RECOMMENDATION.
AND, AND IT'S, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FLEXIBLE.
I JUST, I JUST, I SEE ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS WITH IT AS WELL.
I, I, I DO, BUT I, WELL, AGAIN, IT'S YOUR DISTRICT, MR. NO, NO, NO, SIR.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT, BUT I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO JUST, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, AND THIS BOARD'S VERY ENGAGED IN TRANSPORTATION AND THESE ARE THE THINGS GET FUNDED AND WE DO WANT TO HAVE SOME WALKABILITY.
SO I DON'T, I HATE TO SEE IT JUST VANISH, BUT, BUT I, I, I DON'T AGREE.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I COULD JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, THE MOTION BEFORE THE BOARD THAT HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED IS TO APPROVE MOTION TO APPROVE THE PLAN AS AMENDED, WHICH IS REMOVING THAT PRIORITY ONE ON PAGE PACKET.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION BOARD, DID YOU HAVE ANY CONVERSATION? UH, FROM STAFF'S STANDPOINT, I WOULD RECOMMEND IT STAY ON THE PRIORITY LIST FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT BECAUSE IF THERE MAY BE POTENTIAL CHANGE ON THE BOARD MOVING FORWARD, IF ANOTHER BOARD DOES SEE FIT TO DO THAT, IT MAY MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR FUNDING STRONGER.
AND IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO INCLUDE THE PARALLEL PARKING.
THAT ITEM ALSO GOES TOWARDS STREETSCAPING AND SOME POTENTIAL SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY ALONG ROUTE SIX AS WELL.
SO JUST, IT'S STILL IN THE PLAN AS MS. MCGEE DID POINT OUT.
SO IT WILL BE, THIS PLAN WILL GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS FUNDING APPLICATIONS FOR VARIOUS PROJECTS ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.
UH, BUT IT WOULD MAKE THAT CASE EVEN STRONGER THAT A LOCAL BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
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DOES THINK THAT IT IS A PRIORITY.IT MAY NOT BE PRIORITY NUMBER ONE, UH, BUT, BUT STAFF WOULD WELL, AND ALSO WITH OTHER, WE HAVE OTHER, OTHER TOOLS SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, OUR TRANSPORTATION MEETINGS WHERE WE LIST OUR PRIORITIES THERE AS WELL.
SO IT COULD, YOU KNOW, JUST CUZ IT'S NOT HERE, IT CAN SHOW UP AS A HIGH PRIORITY IF, IF WE GET TO THAT POINT AND WE DEEM IT TO BE YEAH.
MR. CASH SAID THIS, THIS ISN'T THE ONLY LIST THAT WE HAVE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S RIGHT.
AND MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD MM-HMM.
SO WE'RE NOT LOSING THE HU IF YOU COULD MAYBE TAKE A QUICK PEEK AT THAT AND SEE IF IT MINIMIZES YOUR CONCERN OR NOT.
UM, THE PART OF THE TEXT THAT STAFF WOULD, WHY I BELIEVE IT SHOULD REMAIN ON THE LIST ONE, TWO, OR THREE IS THAT THE, THE LAST PART OF THE SENTENCE IS TO CREATE A MORE WALKABLE DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT IS THE LAST PART OF THAT SENTENCE.
FOR PRIORITY NUMBER ONE, UM, STAFF PRESENTED TO YOU.
UH, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH A TAP APPLICATION FOR SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY ON ROUTE SIX.
AND THAT WAS PART OF THE, WHAT WE DEEM PRIORITY NUMBER ONE.
THE PRIORITY THREE CONNECTIVITY WOULD BE OTHER PARTS OF THE SIDEWALK.
WHETHER IT BE OUTSIDE OF THAT, WHAT I CALL THE GLAND PROPER AREA THAT THAT COMMERCIAL PART OF, UH, ROUTE SIX OR OR OTHER PARTS OF THE VILLAGE TO DO THAT SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY.
BUT AS MR. CASH DID POINT OUT, IT IS NOT THE ONLY LIST, BUT IT WOULD JUST STRENGTHEN ANY FUNDING APPLICATIONS IF IT WERE ON THIS PARTICULAR LIST.
FUNDING APPLICATIONS FOR THE ROAD FOR SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY.
UM, BECAUSE SPECIFICALLY I, I THINK JUST, UM, CAUSE MR. GO DO NUMBER THREE DOES OR NO, AND, AND NOT TO BELABOR THIS, BUT, SO THE PRIORITY THREE IT TALKS ABOUT SPECIFICALLY, UM, BETWEEN THE COURTHOUSE AND SCHOOL PROPERTIES AND THEN PRIORITY ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE VILLAGE CORE AREA AND REALLY EXTENDING THAT EXISTING SIDEWALK NETWORK BECAUSE IT DOES DROP OFF.
SO I MEAN, POTENTIALLY WE CAN REMOVE THE REFERENCE OF THE ROAD DIET AND JUST TALK ABOUT, NOT SAYING THE ROAD DIET, BUT SIDEWALK CONNECTIVITY IS A KEY IMPLEMENTATION MEASURE TO ACTIVATE THE VILLAGE CORE, WHICH SERVES AS A HUB OF CIVIC LIFE AND COMMERCE FOR THE COM UH, COURTHOUSE VILLAGE UPGRADES WILL IMPROVE MOBILITY AND CREATE MORE WALKABLE DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT.
WE COULD JUST HAVE IT SAY SIDEWALK AGAIN.
I THINK IF, OKAY, IF THAT'S A MEETING, IF YOU COULD INDULGE ME FOR JUST A SECOND.
IF, IF YOU COULD GET THAT LANGUAGE UP ON A SCREEN SO THE FOLKS HERE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT AH, YEAH, WE'RE DISCUSSING.
NO, WE NEED TO ACTUALLY THEN PULL UP THE PLAN.
IT'S IS WHERE IS IT? WE DON'T HAVE IT.
LANGUAGE IS PART OF THE DRAFT, SO WE'LL NEED TO PULL IT UP.
JUST OUT OF CONSIDERATION FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TRYING TO FOLLOW ALONG AND KNOWS IT FOLLOWING ALONG AT HOME.
UM, IF THEY COULD SEE THE LANGUAGE WE'RE DISCUSSING, IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
NOW YOU'RE GONNA SEE LIKE MY, UH, INTERNET BROWSING TECHNIQUE SUPER SNAZZY.
IT WAS, WAS IT THERE BEFORE? WASN'T IT? SHOULDN'T BE THAT NOT THE DETAILED LANGUAGE THAT WE'RE REFERENCING.
WELL WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THE PLAN, WHICH IS PAGE 27.
I'VE GOT A JIMMY, DO YOU WANT HELP ME TO PULL THIS UP QUICKER? MM-HMM.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS ON HERE? YEAH.
I KNOW I CLICK THIS LINK, RIGHT? THE BIG RED ONE.
BIG RED ONE ONE TIME AND YOU WANNA CLICK ON SOMETHING? RED PAGE 7 27.
WHEN WE HAVE THE UM, I NEED TO DO FULL SCREEN PAGE 27 IN THE PACKING.
YOU, I JUST NEED TO MAKE IT THE MAGNIFIER RIGHT THERE.
HOW DO I DO FULL PAGE? YEAH, THAT WAS THE RECREATION.
SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING, SORRY, WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE IS UNDER TRANSPORTATION PRIORITY ONE AND PRIORITY THREE, PRIORITY ONE BEING THE ROAD DI PRIORITY THREE BEING A CONNECTIVITY IN THE SIDEWALK NETWORK.
I GUESS AGAIN, THE QUESTION REMAINS, UM, IF WE, THE, THE MOTION IN THE SECOND IS TO SIMPLY ELIMINATE PRIORITY ONE.
WHAT IS IT THAT WE LOSE IN TERMS OF
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APPLYING FOR FUNDING FOR SIDEWALKS? AND COULD, COULD I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION MAYBE WOULD BE TO REPLACE THE WORD DIET WITH IMPROVEMENTS.SO WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT VILLAGE CORE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND THAT WAY YOU CAN KIND OF PICK FROM NOT HAPPY WHATEVER'S OUT THERE WITH STRETCH ACKNOWLEDGE.
UM, ANOTHER POSSIBILITY IS THE LANGUAGE AND PRIORITY ONE THAT JUST STARTS WITH TO ACTIVATE THE VILLAGE CORE AND TELLS YOU THAT SERVES AS THE HUB OF CIVIC LIFE AND COMMERCE AND UPGRADES TO CREATE THAT MORE WALKABLE DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT.
THOSE TWO LINES COULD BE ADDED DOWN INTO PRIORITY THREE, WHICH IS TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALKS.
SO DOES THAT WORK? YOU COULD JUST PUT A COMMA, THAT'S FINE.
AND AND ADD THAT TO ACTIVATE THROUGH THE END RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT WOULD ALL BE ABOUT SIDEWALKS THAT GO IN THE VILLAGE CORE AND ALL THE WAY OUT TO THE, UM, SCHOOLS AND ELIMINATE NUMBER ONE.
CAN STAFF GET BEHIND THAT? YES SIR.
I MEAN ONE OF OUR MAIN, UM, GOALS IS THE CONNECTIVITY PIECE WITH SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS.
UNDERSTAND THAT WE HEARD FROM CITIZENS AND I THINK THAT WAS MR. LUKINS WAS UH, FOLLOWING UP ON THAT AND SAYING THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE GOING FORWARD AND THAT'S FINE.
SO, UM, I WOULD NEED C I ACCEPT THAT FROM THE AMENDMENT AND MR. LUKINS IS THE SECONDARY.
WHERE WAS THAT COMMENT IN WHAT YOU SAID AT THE END? ARE YOU TEASING ME
I CAN TELL YOU NO, BUT UM, YOU WANNA READ WHAT? YEAH, SO, UM, THE SIDEWALK NETWORK THAT IS PRIORITY THREE WOULD BECOME TWO AND IT WOULD READ AS IS IN THE PLAN NOW.
BUT I WOULD PUT A COMMA AT THE END AND WRITE AND TO ACTIVATE THE VILLAGE CORE, WHICH SERVES AS THE HUB OF CIVIC LIFE AND COMMERCE FOR COURTHOUSE VILLAGE UPGRADES WILL IMPROVE MOBILITY AND CREATE A MORE WALKABLE DOWNTOWN ENVIRONMENT.
AND I'LL, I'LL ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
UM, DOES THAT CHANGE TRAFFIC AT ALL? HOPEFULLY WE STILL HAVE TRAFFIC, WE STILL HAVE GROWTH IN THE CORE.
WELL I ALSO SEE IT AS CHANGING AS, AS WE LOOK AT HOW IMPLEMENTATION, THE FIRST THING ON THIS, WHEN WE HEARD THE CITIZENS SAYING THAT THERE WAS NOT MUCH OF AN APPETITE FOR THE ROAD DIET TO SPEAK, WE'RE SAYING WELL, BUT IT'S STILL PRIORITY ONE.
MAY I'LL I'LL ADD I THINK, I THINK WHAT I THINK WHAT THIS DOES, IT IT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ROAD DIET AND WE SEE, YOU KNOW, CARS ON BOTH SIDES, TREES ON BOTH SIDES, THAT'S A LITTLE LIKE THAT'S NOT REALISTIC ALMOST FEELING NO, BUT THERE STILL IS THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE THERE ON ONE SIDE, MAYBE WIDENING SIDEWALKS, MAYBE PUTTING SOME KIND OF SURE A BUFFER BETWEEN A SIDEWALK AND THE TRAVELED PORTION OR SOMETHING, OR YOU KNOW, PARKING ON.
I THINK THIS GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT I HATE TO LOSE IT AS A PRIORITY BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT GETS FUNDED WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT I WOULD ARGUE IT, IT IT IS, IT IS, IT'S ONE OF OUR TWO PRIORITIES FOR THE TRANSPORTATION AND I, I THINK, I THINK THE CHANGES ADDRESSES THE, I LIKE THE CHANGES THAT ADDRESS AS A CONCERN.
IT DOESN'T REMOVE TRAFFIC, BUT THAT'S, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO TO DO THAT.
BUT AT LEAST WE'RE GIVING OURSELVES SOME OPTIONS, UM, TO CHANGE SOME CONFIGURATIONS ALONG, ALONG OUR CENTER OF OUR VILLAGE.
I HAVE A MS. LASETTE, SO WE'RE STILL, WE STILL HAVE THE MOTION AMENDED AND ALL THAT ON THE TABLE.
SO, UM, SO JUST BE SURE I'VE GOT TWO THINGS.
LET ME BE CLEAR THAT BY THE WAY WE AMENDED THE PRIORITY ONE MEANS THINGS LIKE SIDEWALKS, THAT KIND OF THING, NOT THE ROAD ITSELF.
THE ROAD DIET SPECIFICALLY IS A CONCEPT, RIGHT? MENTIONED IN GONE THE PLAN GONE, BUT IT IS NOT A NUMERATED OR EXPRESSED PRIORITY.
WHAT IS YOUR FOCUS OF EXPRESS? PRIORITY IS THAT CONNECTIVITY OF SIDEWALKS AND TRAIL NETWORKS AND THAT'S SEEN IN THE PARK SPACE AS WELL.
AND THANKS FOR THE SEGUE CUZ THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION.
SO THEN PRIORITY IF WE TAKE, IF WE MOVE, DID WE CHANGE ONE TO YOUR NEW LANG TO THE NEW LANGUAGE? NO, NO, IT'S GONE.
SO NOW NUMBER TWO BECOMES ONE, IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM.
SO THEN WE'RE SAYING GREENWAYS, UM, AND THAT CONNECTIVITY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE SIDEWALKS.
UM, WHAT WOULD BE PRIORITIES? I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE I WOULD SEE THESE AS LISTED IN, THEY ARE LISTED AS ONE AND TWO, BUT THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE ALL PRIORITIES DEPENDING ON WHERE WE ARE.
SO WE'RE SAYING IF WE HAD A WAY TO FUND ANY OF THIS, WE
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WOULD FUND THAT GREENWAY THING BEFORE WE FUNDED THE SIDEWALKS.I DO, I DO AGREE WITH SUPERVISOR ETTE.
I THINK IF, IF WE ARE AMENDING THREE IT SHOULD BECOME PRIORITY ONE.
AND I I JUST THINK THAT'S A SMART AMENDMENT AND IT'S, EVEN IF WE ARE, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO ANY OF THE IDEAS, THE READER MIGHT NOT BE AS KEEN TO OUR INTENTIONS AS WE ARE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED TO LAY IT OUT IN OUR PRIORITIES.
SO, UH, I WOULD SAY PRIORITY THREE AS AMENDED WOULD BE PRIORITY ONE.
I'LL ACCEPT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
I THINK WE'RE GETTING WRAPPED AROUND THE AXLE, BUT YEAH,
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IS THAT YEAH.
NO REAL, UM, DISCUSSION HERE, BUT MR. CHAIR, I JUST, I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GETTING CLOSER AND CLOSER TO THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD MM-HMM.
AND, AND IN DOING SO, IF WE MAKE YOUR JOB EASIER, THAT'S GREAT, BUT
SO THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAD, MR. CHAIR.
UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE THAT CAME OUT AND ALL THE INPUT AND THANK YOU TO STAFF FOR, FOR GETTING US THERE.
[V. Adjournment: The Board of Supervisors will adjourn as follows:]
WE WILL BE ADJOURNED TO OUR THURSDAY SESSION FOR THE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE PLAN, AND THEN OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETING FOR THE MONTH OF JULY IS ON MONDAY TO ACCOMMODATE THE 4TH OF JULY HOLIDAY.SO WE'LL BE HERE MONDAY, JULY 3RD AT 2:00 PM FOR OUR REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING.
AND MS. BERNARD, IF I MAY, UH, THE THURSDAY MEETING IS A WORK SESSION.