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YOU OKAY TODAY? YOU'RE A LITTLE QUIET.
WE'LL CALL THE JULY MEETING OF THE
[1. Call To Order]
IF STILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE, REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION
[2. Pledge of Allegiance]
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE REPUBLIC ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE LIBERTY.THANK YOU FOR OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN
[3. Invocation - Led By Mr. Duke]
UNIFORM WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO MEET HERE SAFELY.LET THEM KEEP THOSE WHO STILL DO.
THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME TO GATHER.
THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME TO GATHER, TO TAKE CARE OF COUNTY BUSINESS.
WE PRAY THAT YOU GRANT EACH OF US WISDOM TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
BE WITH EACH PERSON HERE AND GIVE THEM GUIDANCE.
BE WITH EACH OF US AS WE TRAVEL BACK HOME.
AS A POINT OF NEW BUSINESS, WE HAVE SOME CODE CHANGES.
I'D LIKE TO READ FOR EVERYBODY'S PUBLIC INFORMATION.
BEGINNING JULY, THE FIRST, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AMENDED THE CODE PERTAINING TO TIMING AND SUBSTANCE OF PUBLIC NOTICES FOR ORDINANCE, AMENDMENTS, AND LAND USE CASES.
CONTINUOUS REQUIREMENTS FOR NOTICE ONCE A WEEK FOR TWO WEEKS.
IT REQUIRES THAT BOTH NOTICES RUN WITHIN 14 DAYS OF ACTION ON THEM BOTH PLANNING, COMMISSION AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
PUBLIC NOTICES WILL NOW RUN ONE WEEK LATER THAN THE PREVIOUS REQUIREMENT.
PLANNING COMMISSION NOTICES WILL GENERALLY BE ONE WEEK, AND THEN ONE DAY BEFORE THE MEETING.
BOARD OF SUPERVISOR NOTICES WILL BE TWO WEEKS.
AND THEN ONE WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING STAFF IS FOLLOWING THE NEW TIMING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE JULY PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD SUPERVISORS MEETINGS.
UH, WE HAVE SOME MINUTES TO APPROVE.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION SPECIAL CALL MEETING ON MAY 22ND, 2023.
[4. Approval of Minutes]
MOTION TO APPROVE.ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THE SECOND ONE IS THE SPECIAL CALL MEETING WITH PLANNING COMMISSION DATED MAY, UH, ON MAY 24TH, UH, 2023.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.
AND THE LAST ONE IS THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING, UH, ON JUNE THE FIRST 2023.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
I'LL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR SUSAN COMMENT PERIOD, IF ANYTHING IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
[5. Citizen Comment Period]
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GOOD EVENING.MY NAME IS PAUL COSTELLO AND I LIVE AT 2011 SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE IN MANNEQUIN SABBATH ON MAY 16TH.
THE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR SURPRISED THE COMMUNITY WITH A PROPOSED PLAN TO EXPAND THE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE CORE WEST OF MANNEQUIN ROAD.
SHE SAID AT THE TIME THAT THIS AND OTHER PROPOSED CHANGES WERE MADE WITHOUT COMMUNITY.
HER RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDE REMOVING LARGE PARCELS OF DESIGNATED OPEN RECREATIONAL SPACE AND PROPOSING THAT THE GOLF COURSE THAT ADJOINS THE SYCAMORE CREEK RESIDENTIAL AREA BE CHANGED TO HIGH INTENSITY MIXED USE.
THIS AREA IS NOT PART OF THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT, AND IT GOES AGAINST STATED PLANNING OBJECTIVES.
IT ALSO IGNORES SEPTIC EASEMENTS, SETBACKS, FLOODPLAINS RUNOFF CONSIDERATIONS, AND NATURAL BUFFERS THAT PROTECT ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHTS.
AT THE JUNE 15TH JOINT WORK SESSION, STAFF RESISTED RETURNING THE VILLAGE CORE BOUNDARY BACK TO MANNEQUIN ROAD.
INSTEAD, THEY DODGED YOUR QUESTIONS WITH INCORRECT, INCOMPLETE, AND MISLEADING INFORMATION.
SPECIFIC MISSTATEMENTS ARE DOCUMENTED IN A JUNE 21ST LETTER THAT CONCERNS CITIZENS SENT TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
IN FACT, NUMEROUS LETTERS IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED CHANGES HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY WITHOUT A RESPONSE.
ALTHOUGH I WAS ENCOURAGED TODAY AFTER MR. CARPENTER AGREED TO MEET WITH COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES ON JULY 17TH TO DISCUSS OUR CONCERNS, PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE COMP PLAN SHOULD CONSIDER PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL WELFARE, AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICE.
THE CURRENT COMP PLAN SHOWS A CENTRAL VILLAGE COURT TO BE APPROXIMATELY 260 ACRES.
THE DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR PROPOSED EXPANDING THE VILLAGE COURT TO OVER 500 ACRES.
EXPANDING THE MIXED USE CORE WEST OF MANNEQUIN ROAD WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MIXED USES ALSO BEING PROPOSED IN THE VILLAGE.
AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, THE WEST BROAD VILLAGE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN SHORT PUMP IS APPROXIMATELY 100 ACRES.
HOW MANY SEPARATE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS ARE BEING ENVISIONED ACROSS THE 3000 ACRES BETWEEN THE HENRICO COUNTY LINE AND WEST OF MANNEQUIN ROAD? SOME MAY CONSIDER THE COMP PLAN TO JUST BE A HIGH LEVEL VISION.
THAT DOES NOT TIE US INTO ANYTHING, BUT CREATING A VISION IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE DELEGATED TO ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AND POTENTIALLY CONFLICTED CONSULTANTS THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THE COUNTY.
THEIR PROPOSED URBANIZATION PLAN IS NOT THOUGHTFUL, TRANSPARENT, OR RESPONSIVE TO WELL-DOCUMENTED COMMUNITY VISION FOR THE VILLAGE COMP PLAN AND UNION LAND USE MAPS ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE ZONING APPLICATION PROCESS, CHANGING LAND USE DESIGNATIONS, ALIGNMENT OF ORDINANCES, DESIGN STANDARDS, AND OTHER ZONING TOOLS TAKE TIME, RESOURCES, AND CARE.
IT TOOK ALMOST FOUR YEARS TO COMPLETE THE ORDINANCE REWRITE THAT WAS JUST APPROVED IN 2020.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE FATIGUE FACTOR THAT IS NOW PART OF THE VILLAGE PLANNING PROCESS.
NEVERTHELESS, WE SHOULD NOT ACQUIESCE TO A HALF-BAKED PLAN JUST TO GET IT DONE.
THE COUNTY IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION TO MAKE CHANGES WITH THE COMP PLAN.
AT THIS TIME, PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE A PROPOSED PLAN THAT WILL ENCOURAGE URBAN SKILLED DEVELOPMENT WEST OF MANNEQUIN ROAD.
CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS TO DEFER ADDITIONS? NO REQUEST TO DEFER
[6. Requests to Defer, Additions, Deletions, or Changes to the Order of Public Hearings]
ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS OR CHANGES TO THE ORDER OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.UM, DID WANT TO MAKE NOTE? WE DO HAVE A QUORUM AND OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS IN DISTRICT FIVE, CU 20 23 5 APPLICATION BY BENEDICTINE SOCIETY
[7. Public Hearing Items]
OF VIRGINIA AND THE BENEDICTINE SCHOOLS OF RICHMOND, INC.REQUESTING AMENDMENT TO CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2011 FOUR A TO REVISE THE MASTER PLAN AND INCREASE ACREAGE FOR REQUIRED BUFFER ON 50.068
[1. District 5 - CU-2023-00005 Application by Benedictine Society of Virginia and The Benedictine Schools of Richmond, Inc. requesting amendment to Conditional Use Permit CU-2011-00004A to revise the master plan and increase acreage for required buffer on 50.068 acres at 12829 River Road and portions of 300 and 322 Riverside Court on Tax Map Nos. 66-1-0-2-0 and portions of 66-4-0-2-0 and 66-4-0-3-0. The property is zoned Residential, Limited (R-1) and Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by Goochland County Zoning Ordinance Sections 15-112 and 15-152. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Semi-Public.]
ACRES AT 28 29 RIVER ROAD AND PORTIONS OF THREE HUNDRED AND THREE TWENTY TWO RIVERSIDE COURT ON TAX MAP NUMBER 66 120 AND PORTIONS OF 66 4 20 AND 66 4 3.THE PROPERTY IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE AND AGRICULTURAL LIMITED A TWO.
THE C P IS REQUIRED BY GOLIN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 1512.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA IS SEMI-PUBLIC.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, I AM RAY CASH, UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND MY PRESENTATION MIGHT BE A LITTLE SLIGHTLY LONGER THAN THE READ THAT WE
UM, UM, AS MS. PARKER REFERENCED, THIS IS FOR OUR CONDITIONAL USE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY AMENDING A PREVIOUS CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE BENEDICTINE SCHOOL.
UM, THAT CASE ORIGINALLY HAS BEEN THROUGH SEVERAL MODIFICATIONS MOST RECENTLY, UM, IN RELATION TO THE ST.
CURT TREATS EXPANSION AND WATER LINE.
UM, THE WATER, UM, DISTRIBUTION, UM, THIS IS BENEDICTINE'S LOCATED IN GENERALLY IN SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.
UH, THE PROPERTY FOR BENEDICTINE ITSELF UNDER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS KNOWN AS, AS REFERRED TO AS SEMI-PUBLIC
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OR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THIS IS, UH, THE MOST RECENT AERIAL OF THE AREA.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE EXPANSION THAT'S BEEN GOING ON GOING AND, UH, WHICH IS THE BUILDING'S ACTUALLY UP THE AREA UNDER DISCUSSION IS GENERALLY RIGHT ABOUT HERE, WAS FORMERLY TENNIS COURTS.
NOW IT'S, UM, PROPOSED TO BE A SOFTBALL FIELD.
AND THEN A LITTLE BIT ON THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
THERE IS AN EXISTING HOUSE OVER HERE.
UM, THE PROPERTY, UM, IS ZONED CURRENTLY A TWO AND R ONE SPLIT ZONE.
THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPECIFICALLY IS THE A TWO PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
AND WHAT I TRIED TO DO IS DESCRIBE HERE ON THE AREA, THESE ARE THE GENERAL PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT IS BEING REQUESTED TO BE ADDED FROM THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
UM, IN THE PEMBROKE FARM AREA, BOTH OF THOSE LOTS ARE OWNED BY THE APPLICANT.
SO THE PREVIOUS CONDITION OF USE OF OUR REFERENCE WAS FOR A SCHOOL.
IT DID INCLUDE A MASTER PLAN THAT SHOWED THE LOCATION OF PROPOSED FACILITIES OF THE EXISTING CAMPUS.
THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY BUILT IN THERE THAT WE COULD, UM, DURING THE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS, THERE COULD BE MODIFICATIONS DIFFERENT LOCATIONS OF, UM, OF THE FACILITIES.
HOWEVER, UM, IT DID HAVE A CONDITION THAT REQUIRED A 25 FOOT BUFFER ON THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.
SO WHEN, UM, BENEDICTINE LOOKED AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, ADJUST THE FACILITIES AROUND THERE, THEY LOOKED TO RELOCATE A SOFTBALL FIELD, UM, UP ADJACENT TO THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY DIDN'T REALLY FIT WITHIN THE ROAD NETWORK THERE AND ENCROACHED UPON THE EXISTING BUFFER, UM, IN THE BUFFER CONDITION.
SO WHAT'S HAPPENED IS, IS THERE REQUEST FOR THEM TO ADD PORTIONS OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WHICH THEY OWN, UM, TO RELOCATE THE BUFFER AND TO MEET SETBACKS? THE TOTAL, UM, ADDITION OF THIS REQUEST IS 0.053 ACRES.
SO IT'S NOT, NOT REALLY A LARGE, IT'S TAKEN VERY SMALL PORTIONS OUT OF THOSE EXISTING PROPERTIES.
UM, SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE RELOCATION OF WHERE THE SOFTBALL FIELD IS.
MOST OF THE EXISTING FACILITIES, THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, THE PARKING AND THINGS ARE IN.
UM, THERE IS A, THEY'LL, THEY'LL ACTUALLY BE RELOCATING A SIDE WORK NETWORK TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT HANDICAP ACCESS TO THE SITE.
UM, THIS IS A ZOOM IN OF THE SOFTBALL FIELD IN THE AREA OF THE EXPANSION.
SO THIS WILL BE THE AREA OF THE 25 FOOT BUFFER, UM, THAT'S NOW COMING OUT OF THE OTHER, OTHER PROPERTIES.
SO YOU CAN SEE IT'S LIKE DIP DOWN AND GO UP.
PART OF THE ADVANTAGE FOR THIS IS THERE IS AN EXISTING, UH, STAND OF TREES THERE, WHICH REALLY WOULD HELP, UM, DO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, ON THE SITE INSTALLATION OF THINGS OVER THE YEARS, THE PREVIOUS TENNIS COURTS THAT WERE THERE, AND AS WELL AS THE NEED FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE SOFTBALL FIELD AND ESPECIALLY THE DUGOUT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A PAIN CAUSE THE ADDITIONAL SETBACK, UM, THAT THE TREES IN THAT AREA ARE GONE.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A SORT OF A TRADE OFF IS THAT THEY CAN MOVE THE PROPERTY LINE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TREES THAT ARE EXISTING.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY HELD, UH, MEETING HELD BACK IN IN MAY.
UM, THE CONCERNS WERE REALLY ABOUT, UM, UH, USE OF THE AREA, YOU KNOW, HOW HAS THAT AFFECTED ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THE BUFFER LOCATION AND THE BUFFER ALTERNATIVES TO THE, YOU KNOW, WERE THERE ANY ALTERNATIVES TO THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS WE'VE ALSO RECEIVED TODAY? UM, I'M SORRY, YESTERDAY ONE EMAIL AND OPPOSITION.
THE CONCERN REALLY, UM, WAS ABOUT THE CONCERN ABOUT THE EXPANSION OF THE SCHOOL AND THE RELATED ACTIVITIES AND WHAT'S THAT, THE, HOW DOES THAT IMPACT THE PEMBROKE NEIGHBORHOOD? SO AS I STATED BEFORE, THE APPLICANT DOES OWN ALL THE PROPERTY AND THE REQUEST, UH, THE PROPOSED MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND RELOCATION, BY THE WAY WE'RE AMENDING THE CONDITIONS HERE, REALLY WOULD MEET THE INTENT OF THE ORIGINAL CONDITION TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD A BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND THE SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.
UH, THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY PERMITS, SUFFICIENT ROOM AND AS I MENTIONED, PROVIDES THE STANDARD TREES, UM, FOLLOWING, SHOULD THIS GET APPROVED, THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH AN UPDATE TO THE PLAINTIFF DEVELOPMENT TO SHOW THE SOFTBALL FILL LOCATION AND THE BUFFER AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO ADD THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTY FROM THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL LOT.
SO IT'S GONNA TAKE A COUPLE PLAT ACTIVITIES TO GET THAT DONE.
SO THE CONDITIONS, UM, BEFORE YOU THAT ARE REALLY CHANGED, IT'S ONLY TWO CONDITIONS ARE BEING AMENDED OUT OF THE PREVIOUS CASE.
ONE IS TO OBVIOUSLY STATE WE'RE REPLACING THE LAST CASE WITH THIS NEXT ONE, THIS THE, THE CU 2 11 0 0 4 A, WHICH WAS THE PREVIOUS CASE, UM, UPDATE TO THE MASTER PLAN DATES AND THEN A REFERENCE TO HOW THE SOFTBALL FIELD RELOCATION REQUIRES ADJUSTMENT TO THE BUFFER.
AND THEN REFERENCING, UM, CONSENT, UH, CONDITION 12, WHICH IS THE BUFFER CONDITIONS.
AND STAFF'S AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION AS WELL.
MR. CASH, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? YES, PLEASE.
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UH, MY NAME IS JESSE GRAPES.I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BENEDICTINE SCHOOLS OF RICHMOND.
I LIVE IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY, 3 22 RIVERSIDE COURT, 23 2 38, UH, IN THE PEMBROKE FARM NEIGHBORHOOD.
IN FACT, ONE OF THE HOMES, UH, THE LOTS THAT'S REFERRED TO IN THIS CASE IS THE ONE THAT I LIVE ON, WHICH IS OWNED BY THE SCHOOL.
UM, PRESENTATION UP ON THE SCREEN FOR YOU UP, MOVE THROUGH QUICKLY.
JUST BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME AND NOT TO BE REDUNDANT.
OR CAN I CLICK, UH, THIS? YES, THANK YOU BUTTON.
THESE ARE JUST ALL THE PRIOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WORK THAT, UH, THE SCHOOLS, UH, THE BENEDICTINE SOCIETY WHO I'M REPRESENTING TONIGHT, UH, THE MANASA COMMUNITY HAVE WORKED WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON RELATIVE TO THE EDUCATIONAL OPERATIONS AT THE SCHOOL.
UH, WHICH, UH, JUST FOR EVERYONE'S REFERENCE BEGAN IN TWO AUGUST OF 2001.
UH, THE SOCIETY MOVED OUT TO GLAND COUNTY IN 1989.
SINCE 2001, UH, THE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN USING THE, THE CAMPUS THAT WAS REFERRED TO IN THE CASE FOR, UH, PRIMARILY, PRIMARILY ATHLETIC PURPOSES.
AND THEN SINCE 2011, UH, FOR ACADEMIC PURPOSES AS WELL.
UH, THE, THE, THE REASON FOR THIS CASE, UH, AND YOU MIGHT RECALL THIS FROM A PRIOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, IS TRAVEL THAT, UH, OUR STUDENTS ARE UNDERTAKING, UH, TO ACCESS THE CURRENT, UH, FACILITIES, UH, THAT ARE NEEDED TO SUPPORT THESE SPORTS.
THE SPORT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS GIRLS SOFTBALL IN THAT FIELD IS AT FOUR 90 SCOTT ROAD, 23 MILES AWAY FROM OUR CAMPUS.
UH, SO WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP THOSE KIDS OFF THE ROAD, UH, WHICH OBVIOUSLY, OBVIOUSLY IS SAFER FOR THEM, BUT ALSO SAFER FOR, UH, RESIDENTS, UH, IN, IN MANY AREAS.
SOFTBALL FIELD PROPOSAL, UH, STRAIGHT FROM THE GIS THERE.
UH, JUST KIND OF FRAME OF REFERENCE.
THIS IS MORE CURRENT, UH, IMAGERY.
UH, THIS IS I THINK GOOGLE MAPS, BUT THE NEW ST.
GERTRUDE HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING, UH, WHICH WE'VE RECEIVED CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR, UH, THAT'S THAT LOT RIGHT THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSE IS KIND OF CUT OFF.
THERE IS THE, A LOT OWNED BY THE SCHOOL.
UM, THIS SECOND LOT HERE I REFER TO AS AN OPEN LOT.
THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT ON THAT LOT.
IT'S A LARGE FOUR ACRE GRASS FIELD IS ALSO OWNED BY THE SCHOOL.
AND THESE ARE THE TWO FROM WHICH WE WOULD BE CONTRIBUTING THAT 0.053, UH, ACRES FROM TO THE, THE MAIN CAMPUS.
UM, PREEXISTING VEGETATION BUFFER.
UH, I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A, A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THIS.
SO IF YOU SEE THOSE TREES THERE ON THAT LINE WHERE, UH, THAT THAT GREEN LINE JUST APPEARED, UH, THOSE ARE, IS IT THE EXACT VEGETATION, UH, THAT WAS HERE IN 1989 WHEN THE EXCEPT SMALL, IT'S LARGER NOW, UH, TALLER WHEN THE MONKS MOVED OUT TO GLAND COUNTY.
IT'S THE EXACT SAME VEGETATION THAT WAS THERE WHEN THE SCHOOL BUILT ITS ATHLETIC FACILITIES, 2001 AND THE SAME VEGETATION, UM, THAT WAS THERE SINCE WE STARTED DOING ACADEMIC OPERATIONS OUT THERE IN 2011.
UH, SO WE HAVE MADE NO CHANGES TO THIS, UH, VEGETATION BUFFER PRESERVED IT AS IS.
AND OUR PLAN WITH THE SOFTBALL FIELD IS TO DO EXACTLY THE SAME, NOT TO CUT DOWN ANY TREES, NOT TO CUT DOWN ANY SHRUBS, BUT TO PRESERVE THAT, UM, BUFFER.
RIGHT? AND, AND, AND I'M GONNA USE THE WORD BUFFER IN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT LANGUAGE OR OR WAY THAT I KNOW, UH, MR. CASH WAS WHEN WE GOT THAT ORIGINAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, WHAT WHAT HAPPENED REALLY WAS THAT THE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN PEMBROKE AND, AND, AND THE ABBEY WAS NEVER STAKED RIGHT BY THE COUNTY, UH, OR BY THE SCHOOL FOR THAT MATTER.
AND THE, THE MAIN CONCERN WAS PRESERVING THAT VISUAL, UH, BUFFER BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND, AND THE SCHOOL WHICH WE HAVE DONE, UH, COMPLIED WITH THE, THE INTENT OF THE LANGUAGE IN THE C P, WHICH I HAVE IN HERE FOR YOUR REFERENCE, UH, FUTURE SLIDE.
UH, THIS PLAN, UH, IS EXACTLY THE SAME.
IT, IT, IT'S, IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE SAME INTENT AS THE LANGUAGE OR MEETING THE SAME INTENT OF THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS DEFINED IN THE CP IN 2011.
UM, AND, AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE THAT HERE CLEARLY IN A, IN A FEW SLIDES.
UH, THAT IS WHERE THE PREEXISTING TENNIS COURTS ARE.
UH, WASN'T QUITE A SQUARE, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A TETRIS SHAPED, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SPACE THERE.
UH, AND THAT IS WHAT WE WOULD BE REPLACING WITH A SOFTBALL FIELD.
SO AN ATHLETIC USE FOR AN ATHLETIC USE.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO GAIN A NEW ACADEMIC BUILDING.
WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT LIGHTS ASSOCIATED WITH SOME SORT OF BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY THAT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
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ONE ATHLETIC USE FOR ANOTHER ATHLETIC USE.UM, AGAIN, YOU ALREADY SAW THIS FROM MR. CASH, UH, THE LITTLE BUMP OUT THERE.
UM, AGAIN, PREEXISTING TENNIS COURTS ZERO IMPACT TO THE CURRENT VEGETATION BUFFER IN THE PLAN.
WE WORKED WITH COUNTY STAFF, UH, IN THE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO USE A RETAINING WALL ALONG THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY SO THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GRADE INTO THAT VEGETATION SO THAT IT WOULD ALL REMAIN, UH, PRESENT AND INTACT AND IN NO WAY VISUALLY CHANGE, UH, ANY CURRENT CONDITION WITH RESPECT TO THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY.
UM, UM, AND IT'S THE, THIS PROPERTY LINE ADJUSTMENT, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, UH, GRANTING OF THIS, THE SMALL PIECE OF LAND TO THE MAIN CAMPUS THAT ALLOWS THE LANGUAGE, THE, THE 25 FOOT BUFFER AND THE SETBACK THAT MR. CASH REFERRED TO TO BE PRESERVED.
UM, JUST FOR HISTORICAL PURPOSES, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SNEAK ANYTHING ACROSS THE FINISH LINE HERE.
THAT RED LINE IS THE PROPERTY LINE.
UH, SO IN THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THE, THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS IN THAT ORIGINAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RELATED TO BUFFER.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT VEGETATION, WHICH IS REFERRED TO IN THERE, WAS REALLY NEVER ON THE SCHOOL'S PROPERTY.
DIDN'T KNOW THAT AT THE TIME, AND I'M, I'M SURE THE, THE OWNERS OF THOSE PROPERTIES REALLY KNEW EITHER THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE INTO ONE OR, YOU KNOW, FROM THE OTHER.
UH, BUT WHEN WE, UH, WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THIS PLAN STATE, THE LINE REALIZED, WELL, YOU KNOW, UH, 20 OF THE 25 FEET OF THAT VEGETATION IS ACTUALLY ON THE, IN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THOSE WERE THE PREEXISTING TENNIS COURTS.
YOU CAN SEE THE DATES, UM, WHEN THOSE EXISTED.
AND THEY HAVE SINCE BEEN, UH, DEMOED TO SUPPORT THE MODIFIED ROAD PLAN, UH, THAT CREATED A SAFER TRAFFIC PATTERN, UH, FOR THE STUDENTS AT ST.
THIS WAS THAT LANGUAGE FROM THE 2011 C U P.
THIS IS JUST A, A SCREENSHOT OF THAT PARTICULAR PIECE RELATED TO THE LANDSCAPE PLANT.
UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT WAS CALLING FOR A BUFFER OF A MINIMUM OF 25 FEET IN WIDTH ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.
UM, AND, AND AS YOU READ IT THERE, RIGHT, IT, IT, YOU KIND OF GET THE IDEA, IT'S MENTIONING EXISTING TREES BEING RETAINED IN THE BUFFER.
WELL, THERE WEREN'T ANY EXISTING TREES, RIGHT? BECAUSE THAT THOSE EXISTING TREES ACTUALLY WERE IN THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, AND NOW, WHICH WAS NOT THE CASE IN 2011, THE SCHOOL OWNS THOSE PROPERTIES.
UH, AND SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL WITHIN PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN, AND WE PLAN TO KEEP THEM THERE.
WITH THIS PLAN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MEET THE, UH, THE TECHNICAL LANGUAGE AND THE, THE BUFFER WITH THIS, THIS AMENDMENT, MR. CASH ALREADY SHOWED THAT.
UH, WHY IS THIS PLAN BENEFICIAL? UH, IT PUTS A, A GIRLS ONLY SPORT SOFTBALL IS A GIRLS ONLY SPORT WITHIN IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY OF THE GIRLS' SCHOOL BUILDING, RIGHT? I THINK THAT KIND OF MAKES SENSE FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
UH, DOES NOT CHANGE THE VEGETATION BUFFER THAT SCREENS THE SCHOOL BUILDINGS FROM THE PEMBROKE FARM COMMUNITY.
UH, THE POWER LINES IN THAT SPACE, UH, ARE BEING MOVED BELOW GROUND.
SO THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT ACTUALLY, NOT JUST FOR THE SCHOOL, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY ALSO DRAWS POWER FROM THOSE LINES.
AND ANYTIME THERE'S A MAJOR STORM, THERE CAN BE POWER OUTAGES.
UH, SO IT'S ACTUALLY THAT ASPECT IS AN ENHANCEMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AN ATHLETIC USE REPLACING AN ATHLETIC USE, NO INCREASED LIGHT POLLUTION.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY LIGHTS ON THESE, THESE FACILITIES.
AND, UH, THIS ONE MIGHT SEEM LIKE A JOKE, BUT IT'S FOR REAL, RIGHT? THE ORI, THIS FIELD HAS TO BE SUPPORTED FOR THE SCHOOL OPERATIONS.
AND, UH, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, IN A PRIOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SOME OTHER LAND THAT WE PURCHASED, WE HAD IN THE CONCEPT THE SOFTBALL FIELD THERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOFTBALL OR BASEBALL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IS FOUL BALLS, RIGHT? AND, AND THEY HAVE SOME KIND OF HIGH ARCING, UM, YOU KNOW, PATHS THAT THEY TRAVEL.
AND EVEN WITH THE BEST FENCING, THINGS WILL ESCAPE.
AND SO THOSE FOUL BALLS ARE GONNA ESCAPE SOMEWHERE.
UM, AND IT WOULD BE MUCH BETTER, WE THINK, FOR THEM TO ESCAPE INTO MY BACKYARD, UH, THAN ONTO PEMBROKE LANE.
SO, UM, FOR ALL THOSE REASONS, WE THINK THIS PLAN IS, IS BENEFICIAL NOT JUST FOR THE SCHOOL, BUT ALSO FOR THE PEMBROKE FARM COMMUNITY.
TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS.
I'LL OPEN UP THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST IT.
CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, JOHN? YEP.
I I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO APPROVE IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR SECOND.
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I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2 0 2 300 0 5 TO REVISE MASTER PLAN AND INCREASE ACREAGE TO ACCOMMODATE REQUIRED BUFFER AT 1 12 8 29 RIVER ROAD THREE HUNDRED AND THREE TWENTY TWO RIVERSIDE COURT, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON AUGUST 1ST, 2023, WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS
[2. District 4 - CU-2023-00002 Application by West Broad RE, LLC requesting a Conditional Use Permit for an electronic message board sign on 1.353 acres at 1504 Little Tuckahoe Court on Tax Map No. 59-1-0-38-A6. The property is zoned Industrial, General (M-2). The Conditional Use Permit is required by Goochland County Zoning Ordinance Section 15-416. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Commercial.]
IN DISTRICT FOUR, CU 20 23, 2 APPLICATION BY WEST BROAD, R E L L C, REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARD SIGN ON 1.35, THREE ACRES AT 1 5 0 4 LITTLE TUCKAHOE COURT ON TAX MAP 59 1 38 A SIX.THE PROPERTY IS OWNED INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED BY GOLIN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE, SECTION 15 4 16.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS COMMERCIAL.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, AGAIN FOR THE RECORD, I'M RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE OF, UM, AMENDMENT AS WELL.
UM, THE USE AND IN QUESTION OF TALKING HERE IS TOMMY'S CAR WASH THAT'S, UM, AT THE CORNER.
UM, IT'S A RECENT, UH, BUSINESS COME TO, TO GOLAND.
UM, WE ARE, THERE IS AN EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE ON THE PROPERTY THAT REGULATES THAT USE.
UM, AND RELATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE CAR WASH USE.
UM, THAT IS A C E P IN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED GENERALLY IN THE NORTHEASTERN PORT OF THE PORTION OF THE COUNTY, UH, THAT IS BE MENTIONED.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS COM, UH, DOES CALL FOR COMMERCIAL IN THIS AREA AND THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, M TWO B ONE, UH, M ONE MIX A VERY COMMERCIAL.
AND, UM, WE HAVE ACTUALLY SHELTERED ARMS ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, ARIEL IS VERY DECEPTIVE CUZ THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT ON, ON THAT, UM, PROPERTY NOW.
UH, SO AGAIN, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED TO PERMIT A CAR WASH WITH CONDITIONS.
ALL THOSE PREVIOUS CONDITIONS WILL REMAIN.
THIS REQUEST IS SOLELY TO REPLACE THE EXISTING MONUMENT, UM, SIGNED FACE WHEN IT'S ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARD SIGN, WHICH WILL ALSO INCLUDE STATIC COPY.
UM, NEW CONDITIONS ARE BEING ADDED TO ADDRESS THE ELECTRONIC SIGN.
UM, THEY HAVE NOT, THE APPLICANT HAS NOT REQUESTED ANY EXCEPTIONS TO OUR STANDARDS THAT ARE PROVIDED IN THE ORDINANCE FOR THE ELECTRONIC SIGN.
THIS WAS THE ORIGINAL PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, THAT SHOWED THE SITE LAYOUT SITE'S BEEN GENERALLY DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT.
UM, I WOULD NOTE THAT THE ORIGINAL LOCATION OF THE SIGN WAS MUCH FURTHER UP IN THE STREET THAT ACTUALLY WOULD'VE BEEN INAPPROPRIATE.
THE SIGN IS RELOCATED, UH, TO MEET PROPER SETBACKS AND DISTANCE FROM THE, THE SIGN ACROSS THE STREET WITH THE WAWA.
UM, SO YOU SEE THE SIGN HERE, UM, MEETS THE MONUMENT SIGN DESIGN STANDARDS.
UH, THE AREA IN QUESTION THAT IS GOING TO BE, UM, THE ELECTRONIC MESSAGE SIGN IS THAT, UM, IT'S 11 MILLIMETER PIXEL PITCH, UM, SIGN, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT, UM, DIFFERENCE.
I MEAN, IT'S NOT A BASE STANDARD, IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER STANDARD FOR SIGNAGE.
UM, AND THERE WOULD BE A MIX OF, UH, STATIC AND ELECTRONIC COPY.
AND THE ELECTRONIC PORTION TAKES ABOUT 62% OF THE SIGN PACE UP.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING WITH MR. PUCK AND I THERE, AND, UH, IF THEY BELIEVE THE APPLICANT AND ONE CITIZEN WERE THERE, THERE WERE NO COMMENTS FROM THE ATTENDEES.
SO, AS I STATED BEFORE, THE EXISTING MON MONUMENT STATICS COPY SIGN DOES MEET THE DESIGN STANDARDS ALREADY.
UM, THE APPLICANT'S NOT SEEKING EXCEPTIONS.
UM, THIS SHOULD BE NOTED THOUGH, AS WE ALWAYS CONSIDER LOCATIONAL AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE ONGOING IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARD SIGN WITHIN THE CENTERVILLE OVERLAY.
UM, THE NEAREST ONE WITHIN GOLAND IS AT SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH WAS HIS WAY OUTSIDE THE OVERLAY.
UM, AS THE CENTERVILLE PLAN AREA IS UNDER REVIEW, WE DO ANTICIPATE THERE'LL BE FUTURE DESIGN UPDATES AND RECONSIDERATIONS ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE PERMITTED WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.
SO THE NEW CONDITIONS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED, UM, ARE RELATED ONLY TO THE SIGN REQUEST.
AS I STATED, UH, THESE ARE STANDARD CONDITIONS THAT WE USE WITH THE EMCS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD.
IT REALLY STATES THAT IT SHOULD BE AN OPERATION WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND AS WELL AS THE, UM, THE OPERATIONAL STANDARDS.
UM, IT SHOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXHIBIT THAT WE SHOWED.
UM, FOR THE SIGN ITSELF, UM, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL SIGN THAT'S IN THE STA ADDITIONAL EXHIBITS IN THE STAFF, UM, REPORT.
AND THAT REALLY JUST SHOWS YOU THE LOCATION OF ALL THE SIGNS ON THE SITE.
AND THEN IT HAS A STAND STANDARD CONDITION RELATED TO TRANSFER OF LEASE.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
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ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CASH? THANK YOU.WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? GOOD EVENING.
I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE SITE, UH, IN QUESTION, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME INSIGHT INTO WHAT WE MIGHT BE SHOWING ON THE SIGN.
I THINK WHEN PEOPLE THINK OF A DIGITAL MESSAGE BOARD, YOU'RE THINKING LAS VEGAS, BLINKING LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, THAT SORT OF THING.
WE TYPICALLY HAVE SIMPLE TEXT ON COLORS THAT MATCH THE SCHEME OF OUR, YOU KNOW, RED, BLACK AND WHITE, LIKE THE REST OF THE SITE.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR GENERAL PROMOTIONS.
BUT WE ALSO DO, FOR EXAMPLE, TEACHER APPRECIATION DAY.
WE DID FREE WASHES FOR VETERANS IN CHESTERFIELD ON WEDNESDAYS.
WE WERE ABLE TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT TO THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S NOT CAR WASH, CAR WASH, CAR WASH, YOU KNOW,
UM, AND IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN TO OUR SITE, I, I HOPE YOU SEE THE CARE WE PUT INTO KEEPING IT LOOKING REALLY NICE, REALLY WELL MAINTAINED, REALLY CLEAN.
WE'RE NOT INTO THAT TACKY GOTTI SORT OF THING.
SO I JUST WANTED TO, UM, PRESENT THAT INFORMATION.
I'M SORRY, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER DONE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS QUITE AS PREPARED AS I, AS I SHOULD, UH, SHOULD BE.
BUT IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER FOR YOU, I'D BE HAPPY TO.
SO, SO YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH NO ANIMATION? NO ANIMATION IS ABSOLUTELY FINE.
AND TRANSITION AND, AND, AND SIGN CHANGE? TYPICALLY WE HAVE TWO SLIDES AT MOST.
WE DON'T LIKE A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE DON'T LIKE TO KEEP IT, WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE BUSY.
IT'S LIKE CLEAN, MINIMAL, JUST TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT INFORMATION, THINGS THAT CHANGE FROM TIME TO TIME, THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, IN READING THROUGH THE PREVIOUS PERMIT APPLICATION, THERE WAS A SECTION ON SIGNAGE AND IT SAYS SIGNS ARE ALLOWED AS PERMITTED BY THE ZONING OFFICE WITH NO ATTENTION GETTING SIGNED.
DEVICES ARE PERMITTED, INCLUDING WHEN NOT LIMITED TO DEVICES DESIGNED ARE INTENDED TO ATTRACT ATTENTION THROUGH NOISE OR SUDDEN INTERMITTENT OR RHYTHMIC MOTION, PHYSICAL OR LIGHTING CHANGES, BANNERS, SIGNS, STREAMERS, BALLOONS, PROPELLERS, WHIRLY GIGS, SEARCHLIGHTS AND FLASHING LIGHTS ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
AND I'VE NOTICED ON THE SITE YOU'VE HAD BANNERS UP FOR PER FOUR MONTHS AT LEAST.
LIKE I SAID, I'M THE GENERAL MANAGER.
IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN TAKE THOSE DOWN.
THE VALVOLINE NEXT TO US HAS NEARLY IDENTICAL.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FLAGS THAT ARE OUT IN FRONT ON THAT HILLSIDE THERE.
WELL, ONLY COMMENT IS PAST BEHAVIOR IS AN INDICATION OF FUTURE BEHAVIOR.
AND I'M JUST WANTING, JUST UNDERSTAND, SIR, WANT YOU TO KNOW.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TAKE THOSE DOWN? I WAS UNAWARE OF THAT, BUT IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO DO SO.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'M SORRY.
UH, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
JONATHAN LYLE, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
UH, I'VE BEEN IN THE COUNTY LONG ENOUGH AND I THINK MANY OF YOU HAVE THAT WHEN SB C**K READY MIX WAS THERE, THERE WERE FLASHING LIGHTS EVERY CHRISTMAS.
THEIR CEMENT TRUCK WAS THE ST TUNED WITH FLASHING ATTENTION, GETTING MOVING SIGNS OF REINDEER AND SANTA SLEIGH.
SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'RE DOING ANYTHING EXCEPT CONTINUING A TRADITION OF HAVING FLASHING ATTENTION, GETTING LIGHTS AT, UH, THAT LOCATION.
UH, I I APPRECIATE THE EFFICIENCIES THAT ELECTRONICS IN SIGNAGE CAN BRING.
UM, MY LAST, UH, W2 GIG WAS, UH, WITH VIRGINIA TOURISM AND WE UTILIZED ELECTRONIC, UM, INFORMATIONAL SIGNS.
SO I, I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD APPROVE THIS GIVEN THE CONSTRAINTS THAT ARE THERE.
UM, AND I GUESS MY FINAL COMMENT WOULD BE ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT GUCH AND IS WE'RE A COMPLAINT DRIVEN COMMUNITY AND I CAN THINK OF A NUMBER OF RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE BANNERS OUT IN FRONT OF THEM LETTING US KNOW THAT THEY'RE OPEN.
AND I DON'T PLAN TO FILE ANY COMPLAINTS, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE DO LIKE TO KEEP GUC RURAL, AT LEAST I DO.
AND, UH, SIGNAGE IS, UH, A PART OF THAT, BUT I HOPE YOU'LL PROVE IT.
I THINK IT SHOWS EFFICIENCY AND I LIKE THE IDEA THE VETERANS MIGHT GET A FREE CAR WASH OUT.
AGAIN, JUST MAKE THAT AS A SIDE OBSERVATION.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK? I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CU 20,023 DASH 0 0 0 0 2
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TO ADD AN ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARD SIGN AT 1 5 0 4 LITTLE TUCKAHOE COURT SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON AUGUST 1ST, 2023 WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
[3. District 3 CU-2023-00004 Application by Amy Norris requesting a Conditional Use Permit for Adult Day Care Center on 1.837 acres at 2913 River Road West on Tax Map No. 42-1-0-38-0. The property is zoned Business, General (B-1). The CUP is required by Goochland County Zoning Ordinance Section 15-242. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Commercial.]
CASE TONIGHT IS IN DISTRICT THREE CU 20 23 4 APPLICATION BY AMY NORRIS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR ADULT DAYCARE CENTER ON 1.837 ACRES AT 29 13 RIVER ROAD WEST ON TAX MAP NUMBER 42 1 0 38 0.THE PROPERTY IS ZONED BUSINESS GENERAL B ONE.
THE C U P IS REQUIRED BY GLIN COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15,242.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS COMMERCIAL.
MEMBERS OF COMMISSION, TOM COLEMAN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER, UH, AS MS. BARKER SAID, THIS IS A CONDITIONS PERMIT REQUEST FOR AN ADULT DAYCARE.
THIS IS CENTRALLY LOCATED IN THE GUCCI COURTHOUSE.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS RECOMMENDED FOR COMMERCIAL AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.
UM, THE PROPOSED, UH, ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY WOULD BE LOCATED IN THE GLAND COURTHOUSE SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, SO SORT OF SHOWN THE FRONT ELEVATION ON THERE AS YOU'RE DRIVING.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A ONE STORY BUILDING.
UM, BUT IT IS ACTUALLY HAS TWO LEVELS.
SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO LEASE THE ENTIRE LOWER LEVEL.
UM, THEY WILL BE THE CEP IS FOR THE ADULT DAYCARE.
UH, THE APPLICANT'S ALSO INDICATED THEY'RE GONNA OPERATE A DOCTOR'S OFFICE THERE, A MEDICAL OFFICE THERE THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A CEP, UH, THAT USE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
THERE ARE MINIMAL CHANGES NECESSARY TO THE SITE OR TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
UM, IT ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE LIKE A TENANT OUTFIT, UH, FOR THE CENTER.
UH, THE APPLICANT INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD SERVE ABOUT 25 CLIENTS AND EMPLOY ABOUT SIX PEOPLE, AND THE ADULT DAYCARE USE IS ALSO LICENSED BY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD IN MAY.
UM, THERE WERE A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE APPLICANT'S BUSINESS PLANS, UH, BUT THE ATTENDEES WERE SUPPORTIVE AND NO ONE EXPRESSED CONCERN OR OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF COMMISSIONS, UH, CONDITIONS THAT COME RECOMMENDED TO YOU.
UH, THAT WOULD INCLUDE ALLOWING THE ADULT DAYCARE FACILITY AT THIS LOCATION OF REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY ADHERE TO THEIR STATE LICENSING FOR THE ADULT DAYCARE, THAT THEY ALSO ADHERE TO THEIR STATE LICENSES AS IT RELATES TO THE PREPARATION OF FOOD, UM, THAT THEY ALSO, THAT THEY ADHERE TO THIS, TO THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL AND THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
THEY'RE APPROVED FOR THE SITE.
UM, THIS INITIAL, UM, APPLICATION WOULD COME WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR FIVE YEARS AND THEN OUR STANDARD CONDITION AS IT RELATES TO THE TRANSFER OR LEASE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IS THIS, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SEE MIKE, IS THIS BEING DONE ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY? THIS, I'M SORRY.
IS THIS ADULT V CARE? IS, IS THIS PRACTICE BEING PERFORMED SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY? I GUESS I WOULD DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.
DOES THE APPLICANT HERE IN WISH TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING.
I AM A RESIDENT HERE, G SPEAK.
SPEAK TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.
I'M A RESIDENT HERE IN GLAND COUNTY.
MY INTENT IS TO PROVIDE AN ADULT DAYCARE TO SERVICE OUR AGING ADULTS IN GLAND COUNTY.
UM, MY VISION IS TO NURTURE, NURTURE AND ENGAGE EVERY STEP OF LIFE FOR THEIR TREE OF LIFE THROUGH THE ADORE.
ALSO, OFFERING A BREATH OF HOPE TO CAREGIVERS AND CARETAKERS WHEN THEY GET TO THAT POINT WHERE THEY CAN GO ON WITH THEIR LIVES TO HAVE SOMEWHERE FOR THEM TO COME AND HAVE DAILY ACTIVITIES.
SOCIALIZATION TWO BALANCED MEALS AND GUIDED HOPE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR AL? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I NOW LOOK FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? UH, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD MANNEQUIN, SABO, VIRGINIA.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SUPPORT THIS APPLICATION, UM, AS A CAREGIVER FOR THE LAST 56 YEARS.
UM, I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GIVE SOME RESPITE,
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UM, TO, UH, THE FAMILIES AND I APPRECIATE HAVING ONE CLOSE IN VIRGINIA, I MEAN IN LULIN COUNTY, AND I HOPE YOU WILL APPROVE IT.ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COMMENT? CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 20 23 0 4 FOR ADULT DAYCARE CENTER AT 29 13 RIVER ROAD WEST, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON AUGUST 1ST WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
[4. District 4 - RZ-2023-00006 Application by Andrew Raymond Moore requesting rezoning of 16.059 acres from Agricultural, Limited (A-2) to Residential, Limited (R-1) with proffered conditions on Rockford Road on Tax Map No. 46-1-0-111-A. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]
OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TONIGHT IS DISTRICT FOUR RZ 20 23 6, APPLICATION BY ANDREW RAYMOND MOORE REQUESTING REZONING OF 16.059 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS ON ROCKFORD ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBER 46 1 0 1 11 A.THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
UH, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE PRESENTATION, I JUST WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT IN THE STAFF REPORT THE TERMS, SO THE NAMES ROCKFORD ROAD AND ROCKFORD AND ROCKFORD WERE, WERE USED INTERCHANGEABLY.
UM, CERTAINLY NOT MY BEST EFFORT.
UH, WE WILL MAKE, CERTAINLY MAKE CHANGES NECESSARY AS IT MOVES FORWARD.
UM, WE DID INCLUDE A BLACK LINE COPY OF THE CORRECTED STAFF REPORT FOR YOU.
UM, AND, AND ALSO PRIOR TO THE STAFF REPORT COMING ON FRIDAY, ALL THE LEGAL ADS, MAPS AND, AND NOTICES HAVE THE, THE CORRECT ADDRESS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, UM, AS MS. PARKER SAID, THIS IS A REZONING APPLICATION FOR 16 ACRES FROM AN AGRICULTURE ZONING TO AN R ONE DISTRICT FOR A SIX SLOT SUBDIVISION.
THIS LO IS LOCATED GENERALLY IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF THE COUNTY, ABOUT A MILE WEST OF CENTERVILLE VILLAGE.
UM, LOOKING AT THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN AND THE ZONING MAP, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS AN AREA THAT IS DESIGNATED AS A RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
UM, IN THE, ONE OF THE FEATURES OF THIS AREA IS THAT THE, THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY IS SORT OF THE ROCKFORD ROAD I 64 RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAP, YOU CAN SEE THAT TO THE NORTH, IT'S THAT INTERSTATE IN ROCKFORD ROAD.
UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES, PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S ZONE AGRICULTURALLY AND THE AREAS TO THE WEST HAVE AN RR A RURAL RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
I'M LOOKING AT THE AERIAL PHOTO TO SORT OF HIGHLIGHT THAT, UH, THAT THERE'S THE WHEELER SUBDIVISIONS TO THE WEST AND THE FORD SUBDIVISION, WHICH GENERALLY TO THE EAST AND SOUTH AND SOME ACREAGE PARCELS.
BUT, UM, CLEARLY THERE IS A RURAL RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER, UM, TO THIS AREA.
AS MOVED TO THE APPLICATION, THEY ARE, UH, PROPOSING A SIX SLOT SUBDIVISION.
IT WOULD BE ON WELL AND SEPTIC WITH UH, TWO ACRE LOTS.
AND THEY ARE PROVIDING A MINIMUM 100 FOOT WIDE BUFFER ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD AND ELEVATIONS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN WERE PROFFERED WITH THE APPLICATION.
AS WE LOOK INTO THE EXCEPTIONAL PLAN, AGAIN, IT IS SIX LOTS.
UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING AT THIS TIME A PRIVATE ROAD WHICH WOULD BE PERMITTED.
UM, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE IS A 100 FOOT BUFFER ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD AND ALSO THERE'D BE A 25 FOOT BUFFER ABUTTING THE WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION AND LOOK AT THE CONCEPTUAL PLANT.
THERE'S SORT OF, UM, OVERLAPS IN PARK THAT 100 FOOT BUFFER ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD.
THERE IS A DRAINAGE WAY AND A WETLANDS THAT ARE SORT OF A PREDOMINANT FEATURE, UM, OF THE SITE.
BUT AS FAR AS THE, AS THE DEVELOPMENT WE WERE, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO THE DRAINAGE WAY IN THAT WETLAND AREA.
AND THE NEXT SLIDE TALKS ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UM, AS MENTIONED, THERE IS A DRAINAGE WAY THAT TRAVERSES ROCKVILLE ROAD AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND IT OUTFALLS INTO THE WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION.
UM, IT'S SORT OF A LITTLE BIT HARD TO SEE, BUT TO TRY TO HIGHLIGHT IT ON THE SCREEN, IT SORT OF DESIGNATES, IT DOES SHOW SORT OF A CREEK LINE SLASH DRAINAGE LINE THAT CORRESPONDS TO WHERE THAT DRAINAGE WAY IS LOCATED.
UM, DUE TO ITS VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO I 64, UH, THAT APPEARS TO MAGNIFY THE STORMWATER ISSUES AND THE RAIN EVENTS MAY CAUSE THE DRAINS WAY TO OVERFLOW AND THAT DOES IMPACT LOTS IN THE WETLANDS.
UM, IF, UH, DEVELOP ANY DEVELOPMENT PLANS SUBMITTED FOR THE SITE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLANS.
NOW THEY ARE REQUIRED AND PER THE REGULATIONS, THE DEVELOPMENT COULD NOT MAKE ANY OF THE OFFSITE STORMWATER ISSUES WORSE AND COULD REDUCE OFFSITE IMPACTS.
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I WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE CONFERENCE PLAN AND TAKE A MOMENT TO READ, UH, SORT OF WHAT THE, THE ROLE ENHANCEMENT AREA DESIGNATION SAYS IN THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN.IT DOES RECOMMEND THAT USE AS EXHIBIT A RURAL CHARACTER WITH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL FORCE OR OTHER USES WHICH ARE NOT PLANNED FOR PUBLIC OR ESSENTIAL UTILITIES.
RESIDENTIAL USES SHOULD INCLUDE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF GRADING AND NATIVE PLANT REMOVAL, AND CREATE A MINIMAL VISUAL AND OTHER IMPACTS.
UH, THE RULE ENHANCEMENT AREA DOES SUPPORT MINIMUM TWO ACRE LOTS THAT WOULD BE COMPARABLE TO WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE A ONE AND A TWO DISTRICTS, WHICH HAS A MINIMUM OF TWO PLUS AN ADDITIONAL MINIMUM OF THREE ACRES FOR ANY LOTS THAT FRONT ON A PUBLIC ROAD.
UM, MENTIONED EARLIER THAT, UH, THIS IS LOCATED, UH, SORT OF, IT IS SORT OF SURROUNDED BY THE WETLANDS AND FORDS, UM, SUBDIVISIONS AND JUST WANNA PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION, SORT OF PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT ABOUT HOW THIS, UM, SUBDIVISION WOULD COMPARE TO THOSE.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS AN R ONE ZONING, 16 ACRES, UM, SIX LOTS.
THERE'S A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF TWO ACRES.
UM, THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE WOULD AVERAGE OUT AT ABOUT 2.6 ACRES, AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PROVIDE ANY OPEN SPACE AND THEY'RE NOT PROVIDING ANY OPEN SPACE AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
I THINK WITHOUT READING OVER THE WHEATLAND AND THE FORDS, I THINK JUST LOOKING AT THIS INFORMATION, UM, THE PROPOSAL IS COMPARABLE TO THOSE EXISTING SUBDIVISIONS AND IN, IN DETERMINING WHETHER IT'S WHY IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE ROYAL OF HANIN AREA DESIGNATION, WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. UM, YOU KNOW, IT HAS THE SAME LOT SIZES AS OTHERWISE WOULD BE REQUIRED IN THE ADJACENT A TWO AREA.
UM, THE DENSITY AND LOT SIZE THAT SHOW JUST COMPARABLE TO THE NEIGHBORING WETLANDS AND FOUR SO DIVISIONS AND ALSO TO AC ACRES PARCELS IN THE AREA.
THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN THE T O CSD AND IT'S NOT PLANNED FOR, UH, FOR PUBLIC OR CENTRAL UTILITIES.
THERE IS A 100 FOOT BUFFER ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD, WHICH WOULD PROTECT THE RURAL V SHE ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD.
THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT SEEKING ANY TRANSPORTATION RELATED WAIVERS.
IT MEETS ALL THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE DEVELOPMENT CANNOT MAKE OFFSITE ISSUES WORSE AND MAY REDUCE THE OFF, UH, OFFSITES TO WATER IMPACTS.
UH, THEY ARE PROVIDING THE CASH PROFFER AS, UH, DEFINED IN THE CAPITAL IMPACTS MODEL.
UH, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD IN APRIL AND THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT WERE, UM, DISCUSSED AT THAT, INCLUDING THE IMPACT OF THE RURAL CHARACTER AND CONTRIBUTION TO SPRAWL, UH, THE REMOVAL OF AN EXISTING INTERNAL ROAD, UH, THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE IN WETLANDS, AND YOU SEVERAL ATTENDEES EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE PERIODIC STORMWATER PROBLEMS THAT IMPACTED PROPERTIES IN THE WETLANDS.
UH, THE LACK OF OTHER R ONE ZONING AREA AND THE NUMBER OF BYRITE SPLITS VERSUS THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT COULD BE IN AN RR UH, REQUIRING LARGER SETBACKS.
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT ELECTRIC ELECTRICITY PROVIDERS FOR THE AREA.
THE IMPACT OF WELLS AND LAWN SPRINKLING ON THE WATER SUPPLY, ENVIRONMENTAL AND WHITE LEFT IMPACT WILDLIFE IMPACTS AND FARMING.
YOU KNOW, GENERALLY THE ATTENDEES EXPRESSED OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST AND, UM, THE APPLICANT DID OFFER A NUMBER OF PROFFERS THAT INCLUDED EXCEPTIONAL PLAN.
YOU SAW EARLIER THE ELEVATIONS THAT YOU SAW EARLIER.
UM, MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR ONE STORY BUILDINGS OF 1800 SQUARE FEET FOR 2 4 2 FLOOR BUILDINGS, 2,500 SQUARE FEET THAT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THE SIX LOTS THAT ARE OFFERED PRESCRIBED FOR COVENANTS.
THEY WOULD LIMIT THE HOURS OF OBSTRUCTION TO BETWEEN 7:00 AM AND 8:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
THEY WOULD REQUIRE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, UM, REQUIRE BRICKSTONE FOUNDATIONS REQUIRE ROOFING MATERIALS TO HAVE A MINIMUM 25 YEAR WARRANTY.
THE CASH PROFFER I MENTIONED EARLIER AND THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF TWO ACRES.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE, UH, THE, THE SURROUNDING SUB DEVELOPMENTS HAVE WELLS AND SEPTIC ALSO.
SO THIS IS REALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING, CORRECT.
THIS IS OUTSIDE THE TCS D AND, AND WELL, WELL WEST OF THAT, IS THERE A CURRENT RUNOFF PROBLEM GOING THROUGH THE WETLANDS? YES.
UM, THEY, I'VE SEEN PICTURES AND, AND, AND CLEARLY THAT THE, UM, THAT DRAINS WEIGHT THAT'S SHOWN ON THE MAP IS, IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE TO TALKED ABOUT AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, BUT IT'S CURRENTLY ONE CORRECT.
AND THIS ONE DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY WORSE.
WELL, IF THEY, IF THE ZONING WERE APPROVED AND THEY WERE TO FILE THE DIVISION, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FILE A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLANS.
AND, YOU KNOW, BY REGULATION THEY CANNOT MAKE ANYTHING WORSE.
UM, IT THERE, IT COULD POTENTIALLY COULD MAKE IT BETTER.
MAYBE THE APPLICANT COULD TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
DON'T WANNA EVER COMMIT ON THAT.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK?
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GOOD EVENING.ANDREW BROWNING, 9 23 STONE CASTLE DRIVE GLAND, VIRGINIA, UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, UH, MR. RAY MOORE AND HIS BROTHER CHRIS MOORE.
UH, RAY IS WITH ME TONIGHT, UH, WITH YOUNG BLOOD TYLER AND ASSOCIATES.
A SHORT PRESENTATION TONIGHT, UH, UH, AS MR. COLEMAN UH, MENTIONED, WE'RE PROPOSED ZONING THE PROPERTY TO R ONE.
WE'RE PROFFERED A MAXIMUM OF SIX LOTS ON 16 ACRES, WHICH IS A DENSITY OF 0.38 UNITS AN ACRE, A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF TWO ACRES.
UH, BE SUBDIVISION, BE SERVED BY ONE PRIVATE ROAD CONNECTING OUT TO ROCKFORD ROAD.
WE HAVE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD WITH PLANTING REQUIREMENTS IF, IF THE VEGETATION IS, UH, NOT SUBSTANTIAL, SUBSTANTIAL IN THOSE AREAS.
WE ALSO PROFFERED A 25 FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE WE WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION.
WHAT THAT ALSO HAS A PLANNING REQUIREMENT.
UH, THE PROPOSED USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
WE'RE PROPOSING TWO TO THREE ACRE LOTS SURROUNDED BY TWO TO THREE ACRE LOTS.
UH, WE'RE PRO PROTECTING THE EXISTING WETLANDS IN THE FRONT.
UH, THIS IS, UH, A BLOW UP OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UH, SHOWING THE PROPOSED DESIGN.
WE PURPOSELY PUT THE, THE ROAD TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE TO TRY TO AVOID, UH, IMPACTING MORE OF THE WETLANDS.
CURRENTLY TODAY THERE'S A, THERE'S A DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER WHERE THAT LITTLE NARROW STRIP OF THE WETLANDS ARE.
THERE'S A PIPE THERE THAT'S KIND OF PROHIBITING THE FLOW OF THOSE WETLANDS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT, THEN IT IS HIGHER THAN THE, THE CREEK CHANNEL, AND THAT'S KIND OF DAMNED THAT AREA UP AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT CREATED THOSE WETLANDS.
BUT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BRING THE ROAD INTO THE NORTH TO AVOID ANY IMPACTS TO THAT.
SO ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER HERE IS THE, IS THE BUFFER ALONG THE WHEATLAND.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD.
UH, PROPOSED HOMES IN, IN THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE A MIX OF STYLES, CRAFTSMEN, ARSON, CRAFTS, FARMHOUSE, TRADITIONAL, UH, WE PROFFERED ELEVATIONS, UH, THAT MR. COLEMAN SHOWED AT EXHIBIT B.
UH, MINIMUM OF 1800 SQUARE FOOT OF LIVING AREA FOR SINGLE STORY AND 2,500 FOR TWO STORY.
UH, GUESSING HOME PRICES WILL BE FIVE TO 700,000, BUT IN SLAND THESE DAYS IT PROBABLY WOULD BE NORTH OF THERE.
UH, THESE AGAIN, WERE THE, WERE THE ELEVATIONS.
UH, WANNA DISCUSS A LITTLE THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE AFTER THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
WE, WHEN WE CAME IN, INITIALLY WE, WE HAD SEVEN LOTS AND WE WERE PROPOSING A PUBLIC ROAD.
AND WITH SEVEN LOTS IN R ONE THERE'S A 20% OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.
SO OUR LOT SIZES WERE ABOUT AN ACRE AND A HALF TO TWO ACRES, AND WE HAD ABOUT THREE ACRES OF OPEN SPACE KIND OF SURROUNDING IT.
UH, WE HEARD CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT THEIR LOTS WERE ABOVE TWO ACRES THAN THEY WOULD RATHER DECREASE THE DENSITY AND, AND BRING THE LOT SIZE UP.
SO WE WENT BACK AND WHEN YOU COME IN WITH SIX LOTS, THERE'S NOT AN OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT.
UH, AND WE MADE THE ROADS PRIVATE, SO THE PROPERTY LINE ACTUALLY GOES TO THE CENTER OF THE, THE ROAD.
AND SO THERE'LL BE NO COMMON AREA THAT'S OWNED BY THE ASSOCIATION.
THE LOT OWNERS WERE OWNED ALL THE PROPERTY, BUT THERE THEY'RE ALSO, UH, ALTHOUGH THERE'S NOT A TRUE OPEN SPACE IN A COMMON AREA, WE ARE PROVIDING OPEN SPACE.
I MADE SOME NOTES HERE IN THOSE BUFFERS.
UH, AND THERE'S ABOUT A TOTAL OF A LITTLE OVER 2.9 ACRES IN THE BUFFERS AND THE WETLANDS THAT WILL BE PROTECTED.
SO THAT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 18% OPEN SPACE, WHICH IS IN AN EASEMENT OR A WETLAND THAT CAN'T BE IMPACTED.
SO WE DO REALLY HAVE OPEN SPACE, IT'S JUST NOT OWNED BY THE ASSOCIATION.
AND THE COMMON AREA, UH, AGAIN, FROM THAT WE ADDED THE BUFFER ALONG THE WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION FOLLOWING THE MEETING.
AND WE, WE, UH, ADDED REQUIREMENTS FOR THE BUFFERS TO TRY TO ENHANCE THE, THE BUFFER AREAS IF THERE'S INSUBSTANTIAL, UH, INADEQUATE VEGETATION AND PROFFERED SOME MORE QUALITY STANDARDS FOR THE HOUSES.
I DID PREPARE THIS SLIDE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT DRAINAGE.
IT'S NOT AS MUCH DRAINAGE TO THAT AREA AS I THOUGHT IT MAY BE.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE GLAND COUNTY GIS MAP WITH THE TOPOGRAPHY ALIGNED ON THERE.
THERE'S ABOUT 15 ACRES, SO A LITTLE BIT OF 64 DRAINS TO THAT WETLAND AREA IN THE FRONT AND THEN CONTINUES TO THAT DRAINAGE SWA IN THE, IN THE WETLANDS, SORRY, DROPPED.
SO I KIND OF BROKE THIS UP INTO A COUPLE DIFFERENT AREAS.
THE FIRST AREA IS ABOUT 15 ACRES THAT KIND OF COMES THROUGH THE WETLANDS AND DRAINS.
SO THAT POINT WHERE IT LEAVES THE SITE HERE AND THEN THE REMAINDER OF THIS, OF OUR SIDE AND A LITTLE BIT OFFSITE ABOUT ANOTHER 13 ACRES WILL DRAIN IN THAT DIRECTION THAT WILL END UP IN THE WETLANDS.
AND SO WE WILL BE REQUIRED TO GET A STORMWATER PERMIT.
AND AS A REQUIREMENT OF THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, MOST OF THE SITE TODAY IS, IS A FIELD.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STORMWATER REGULATIONS, WE WERE REQUIRED TO DETAIN, UH, THE STORMWATER AND RELEASE IT AT A RATE THAT'S 80% OF THE LEVEL THAT IF IT WERE ALL WOODED.
SO WHATEVER THE RUNOFF WOULD BE IF IT WERE ALL TREES, WE ONLY ARE ALLOWED TO RELEASE 80% OF THAT AFTER IT'S DEVELOPED.
SO IT'S ALL GOING THAT DIRECTION.
YOU KNOW, OUR PLAN IS TO, I'M GONNA BACK UP TO OUR SITE
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PLAN REAL QUICK.OUR PLAN IS, IT'LL KIND OF BE TWO AREAS WHERE THE, THE STORMWATER WILL LEAVE THE SITE AND WE WOULD HAVE A STORMWATER DETENTION BASIN IN BOTH AREAS AND WE WOULD BE DETAINING THE RUNOFF BEFORE IT LEFT THE SITE AND IMPROVING THE SITUATION.
UH, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU HUMBLY APPROVE THE, UH, PROPOSAL AHEAD OF YOU TONIGHT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? YES, IT DOES.
ON MR. BROWNING, HOW, UM, WHEN WAS THE PROPERTY SUBDIVIDED? HOW OLD IS THIS LOT? SO I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE.
UH, IT WAS A PARENT TRACK AT SOME POINT, AND THESE COUPLE LOTS WERE CUT OFF AS A DIVISION.
AND SO I THINK THERE'S ONE BY RIGHT PARENT SPLIT TODAY.
UH, BUT THAT IT WAS A PARENT TRACK THAT HAD, I THINK THESE TWO PARCELS TO THE, TO THE EAST OF US HAVE BEEN CUT OUT OF THAT PARCEL ORIGINALLY.
SO IT WOULD'VE BEEN LESS THAN 20 ACRES AND IT HAD FOUR DIVISION RIGHTS BY RIGHT UNDER FOUR, YOU KNOW, UNDER 20 ACRES.
AND THAT WETLAND AT THE FRONT AREA, FOR LACK OF BETTER TERMS, THAT'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE NINETIES FROM WHAT I CAN REMEMBER.
IT'S BEEN THERE A LONG TIME FOR A LONG TIME.
AND, AND I THINK THE ROAD THAT WHOEVER, WHOEVER PUT TO GET INTO THE FIELD, THEY PUT A PIPE IN AND PUT A ROAD IN AND THE PIPE IS TOO HIGH SO IT DOESN'T DRAIN.
AND THEN IT'S TOO SMALL AS WELL.
AND SO WHEN IT RAINS A LOT, IT PROBABLY FILLS UP LIKE A LAKE AND THEN SLOWLY DRAINS OUT.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY DETAINING RUNOFF AND HELPING THE SITUATION IN ITSELF FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S SLOWING THE RUNOFF DOWN.
UH, I'LL NOW OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
DO I WISH TO SPEAK MULTIPLE PEOPLE, SIR? AND IF YOU WANT YOU, YOU CAN SIT IN HIS FRONT ASS AND SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND ASK YOU PLEASE NOT BE REDUNDANT.
UH, ONCE WE HEAR IT, WE HEAR IT.
WE DON'T NEED EVERYBODY SAYING THE SAME THING.
MY NAME'S BRYCE ALLISON, MY PROPERTY 2379 WHEATLAND DRIVE BORDERS.
THIS, UH, PROPOSED, UH, SUBDIVISION GOT TWO MAIN ISSUES WITH THIS REZONING REQUEST, THE TOPOGRAPHY DRAINAGE.
I'VE LIVED IN THERE FOR 20 YEARS.
UH, SO WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT DRAINAGE POND FROM 64.
UH, SO THE TOPOGRAPHY DRAINAGE ON THIS PROPERTY HAS CHANGED SINCE WE MOVED TO WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO.
MY WIFE AND I THINK IT WAS BUILT OUT WITH BIOSOLIDS.
IT WAS BEING USED FOR AGRICULTURE.
UH, I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING ANY OFFICIAL REQUEST TO BUILD THAT UP.
AT ONE POINT OUR HOUSE USED TO BE VISIBLE FROM ROCKFORD ROAD AT THE POINT WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS, I CAN'T EVEN SEE MY HOUSE ANYMORE, EVEN WITH THE NO FOLIAGE ON THE TREES.
THIS HAS CREATED A DRAINAGE PROBLEM FOR MY LOT DURING HEAVY RAINS ON THAT BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT YOU SAW THAT NOW HAS THE PROPOSED PUTTING A DRAINAGE POND IN THERE, SUCH THAT ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO I ARGUED THAT THE BACK OF MY PROPERTY WAS NOT SUITABLE TO EVEN BUILD A SHADOW DUE TO THE RUNOFF AND THEREFORE IT SHOULD NOT BE ASSESSED AS A SIMILAR SIZED PROPERTY WITH ALL THE LAND USABLE BY THE WAY THAT RUNOFF FLOWS INTO A DRAINAGE DITCH.
APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED FEET FROM MY BACK PATIO, THAT SAME DRAINAGE DITCH THAT'S COMING, UH, FROM THE I 64 RUNOFF.
THE DEV DEVELOPERS REPORT, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE DEVELOPERS PROPOSED DRAINAGE AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING ON APRIL 20TH AND DIDN'T REALLY ADDRESS IT.
THEY'VE ADDRESSED IT A LITTLE BIT HERE, BUT IT STILL DOES IT, IT REALLY FLOWS INTO MY BACKYARD.
WE HAVE PICTURES OF THAT, UH, THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM COMING THROUGH MY BACK YARD GOES D DRILLS DOWNHILL AND CREATES PROBLEMS FOR MY NEIGHBORS THAT ARE SOUTH OF ME AND DOWNHILL.
NUMBER TWO, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT REQUEST TO GO FROM A ONE TO R ONE AND YET STILL PRESERVE THE RURAL CHARACTER OF THE COUNTRY, WHICH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WANTS TO DO.
NO ADJOINING PROPERTIES AS PER THE GOSEN COUNTY ARE ZONED R ONE.
NONE OF THEM JOINING PROPERTIES ARE IN WHEATLAND ZONED RR FORD'S A TWO.
THEY'RE ALL ABOUT, I AGREE WITH THE ACRE OF THINGS THAT, THAT THE GENTLEMAN PROVIDED PAST FIVE, FOUR, OR FIVE YEARS SEEN TREMENDOUS GROWTH IN THAT PART OF THE COUNTY.
BUT WHERE DO WE STOP? WE ARE IN A RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA AS PER THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THE GOAL TO PROTECT AND MAINTAIN THE COUNTY'S RURAL CHARACTER.
AND THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITS TO UPHOLD THIS PRINCIPLE.
CONCLUSION, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE RISKS IN PURCHASING PROPERTY AND IN DEVELOPING PROPERTY.
I TOOK A RISK 20 YEARS AGO WHEN I PURCHASED MY PROPERTY THAT THE PROPERTY IN DISCUSSION TONIGHT, THE BORDERS MY PROPERTY WOULD REMAIN A ONE WITH THE RURAL CHARACTER, THE ORIGINAL OWNERS AND CURRENT OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.
INION TOOK A RISK IN PURCHASING IT WITH THE HOPE ONE DAY IT WOULD BE REZONED AND DEVELOPED.
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GUARANTEES EITHER WAY, BUT AT LEAST WITH THIS FORUM, I GET TO VOICE MY OPINION AND MY CONCERN.I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A STAND IF WE TRULY BELIEVE IN PRESERVING THE RURAL CHARACTER OF OUR COUNTY AS PER THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S NOT JUST STAND OPPOSED TO THIS PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST.
BELIEVE IT SHOULD REMAIN A ONE.
I'LL VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UH, SIR NATHAN SCHNEIDER, 24 0 9 WHEATLAND DRIVE MY PROPERTY, UH, BORDERS THIS DIRECTLY AT THE VERY HEAD THERE ON THE SECOND PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE, UH, THE FLOW COMES TO.
SO I, UH, TELL A PERSONAL STORY.
I PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY, UH, FROM AFAR, FROM PENSACOLA.
NEVER HAD SEEN IT, SEEN IT ON A MAP, SEEN IT ON, UH, PICTURES, AND, UH, UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WAS A DRAINAGE FROM 64, BUT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANT TO ME AT ALL.
I ARRIVE WITH MY TRUCK TO ABOUT EIGHT TO SIX INCHES OF WATER STANDING IN THE BACKYARD.
MY NEIGHBORS SPILLED A CULVERT.
THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THIS PROPERTY, SO THEY DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
IT FLOWS PERFECTLY THROUGH HIS LAND.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO PUT A CULVERT IN IF I WANT MINE TO STAY DRY AND BE ABLE TO USE OVER HALF OF MY PROPERTY.
SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT, UH, PROPOSAL TO MAKE IT BETTER.
SO EITHER YOU GOTTA DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
UM, AND HE SAID IT WAS HELPING US.
NOW THE FLOW, LACK OF FLOW WAS HELPING US.
NOW, I HEARD HIM SAY THAT AS HIS LAST COMMENT.
SO I FEEL LIKE I GOT KIND OF TRICKED INTO BUYING TWO ACRES OF PROPERTY THERE, AND NOW I'M SUFFERING WITH IT.
UM, AND IF IT WEREN'T RURAL, I WOULDN'T HAVE WANTED TO BE THERE TO BEGIN WITH.
I WANTED TWO ACRES, YOU KNOW, MINE, SO IT'S CUT IN HALF.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T ASK FOR FORGIVENESS ON MY TAXES.
I THINK EVERYONE HERE OUGHT TO.
MY NAME IS DOUG KNAPP, AND I AM A 30 YEAR RESIDENT OF 2337 WHEATLAND DRIVE IN VERY CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE PROPOSED ROCKFORD ROAD, MEDIUM DENSITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
MY WIFE PAT AND I MOVED TO WHEATLAND IN 1993 FROM THE CITY OF RICHMOND, DRAWN TO THE PEACEFUL RURAL NATURE OF GLAND COUNTY.
I HAVE DRIVEN BACK AND FORTH DOWN ROCKFORD ROAD THOUSANDS OF TIMES WHILE LIVING IN WHEATLAND.
IT IS A TREE LINED COUNTRY ROAD WITH A HANDFUL OF HOMES, ACTUALLY ONLY THREE OR FOUR BETWEEN MANNEQUIN ROAD AND WHEATLAND DRIVE, WHERE I LIVE.
THE HOMES ARE BARELY VISIBLE FROM THE ROAD BECAUSE OF THE INCREDIBLY MATURE TREES.
EVEN BEFORE WE MOVED HERE, AFTER OUR OFFER FOR THE HOUSE HAD BEEN ACCEPTED, WE DROVE OUT FROM RICHMOND EARLY ONE MARCH EVENING TO LISTEN TO THE PEES HUNDREDS OF TREE FROGS, WHOSE HABITAT IS THE WETLANDS ON ROCKFORD ROAD IN THE DENSE TREES, AND THE MOIST, OFTEN FLOODED SOIL BELOW.
IT'S A WONDERFUL SOUND AND RITUAL, WHICH I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERY WINTER, AND ONE THAT I HOPE IS NEVER SILENCED BY DEVELOPMENT.
YOU CAN TELL I LOVE WHERE I LIVE, AND I KNOW MY NEIGHBORS LOVE LIVING HERE AS WELL, AND I DON'T WANT MY FEELINGS TO CHANGE BECAUSE OF AN UNNECESSARY DISRUPTIVE, MEDIUM DENSITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT ON ROCKFORD ROAD.
I DON'T SEE HOW IT BENEFITS ANYONE EXCEPT THE DEVELOPER.
I AM GRATEFUL THAT WE HAVE A WELL THOUGHT OUT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN GOLIN COUNTY THAT DESIGNATES THIS RU THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT.
THERE IS NO NEED TO DEVIATE FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MY THOUGHTS WITH EACH OF YOU ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THE PROPOSED ROCKFORD ROAD MEDIUM DENSITY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TO PROTECT THE VERY SPECIAL QUALITY OF LIFE WE ENJOY BY LIVING THERE TO PROTECT THE WETLANDS AND HABITAT FOR THE WILDLIFE IN OUR AREA, TO SUPPORT THE WISHES OF THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE IN THE AREA, AND TO KEEP OUR SPECIAL PART OF GLIN COUNTY,
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A RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.THANK YOU, MS. THAT SOMEONE ELSE? MY NAME IS CORRINE LYT.
I LIVE AT 2359 WHEATLAND DRIVE.
UH, I JUST WANT TO STATE THAT I DO OPPOSE THIS PLAN AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
UM, RIGHT NOW, THE, UH, PROPERTY CAN HAVE THREE HOMES BUILT ON IT.
UM, SO I THINK GENERALLY THAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD PREFER IF LESS HOMES WERE BUILT HERE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUILD ON THIS PROPERTY.
UM, I THINK WE WOULD ALL PREFER THREE OVER SIX.
UM, I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE SCARY ASPECT OF THE SNOWBALL EFFECT THIS COULD HAVE IN GOOCHLAND.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE TO LIVE IN SHORT PUMP, AND I THINK WE'RE ALL A LITTLE FEARFUL OF IT KIND OF BECOMING THAT WAY.
AND IF MORE AND MORE AGRICULTURAL LAND IS DESIGNATED FOR, UH, RESIDENTIAL, I CAN SEE THAT IT WILL JUST START TO MOVE MORE AND MORE OUT TOWARDS ALL THIS BEAUTIFUL FARMLAND THAT, AS DOUG MENTIONED, WE ALL KIND OF MOVED HERE TO EXPERIENCE.
SO I DO OPPOSE THIS PLAN AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL NOT APPROVE.
I LIVE AT SEVEN 11 ROCKFORD ROAD, AND I DON'T LIVE IN WHEATLAND AND I DON'T LIVE IN FORDS.
I LIVE IN WINDY RUN, WHICH GOT NEGLECTED FROM ALL OF THIS.
OUR, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ZONED AS, BUT OUR MINIMUM LOTS ARE FIVE ACRES.
UM, AND I LIVE AT THE FIRST HOUSE GOING IN.
THERE ARE 13 HOMES BACK THERE AND ONE BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW ON A 15 ACRE PROPERTY.
IT'S AN 8,000 SQUARE, SQUARE FOOT HO HOME.
MY HOME, UM, IS MORE THAN FIVE ACRES, AND THE FRONT IS TWO HORSE PASTURES FOR MY ANIMALS, WHICH FLOOD FROM, AND IT COMES RIGHT DOWN WHERE BELOW, UM, ROCKFORD ROAD STARTS TO GO ON A HILL GOING DOWN.
AND EVERY TIME IT RAINS, MY BOTTOM TWO PASTURES, BOTH FLOOD.
I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS SUBDIVISION BEING DEVELOPED BY ANY MEANS, AND I SPEAK FOR ALL 13, ALMOST 14 RESIDENTS OF WENDY RUN.
I LIVE AT 2262 WHEATLAND DRIVE, MANNEQUIN SABBATH.
BEEN A RESIDENT OF THIS COUNTY FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.
AND I DON'T WANNA BE REDUNDANT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU COULD MEET NUMBERS IN ANY PLAN, BUT NOT MEET THE INTENT.
RURAL ENHANCEMENT RURAL IS MENTIONED MANY TIMES THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN VARIOUS CHAPTERS AND LAND USE MAPS, THE INTENT IS THE RURAL IS TO BE, BY DEFINITION, MORE LIKE THE COUNTRYSIDE, NOT URBAN TOWN, CITY, ET CETERA.
ENHANCEMENT MEANS TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THE RULE ENHANCEMENT IS FOR, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE WHOLE COUNTY.
NOW, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD JUST OUTSIDE THE VILLAGE? IT'S NOT IN THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA FOR ONE THING.
SO IT IS IN A RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
THERE'S TO BE PROTECTED, IT'S TO THE MISSION STATEMENT IN A LOT OF THE POLICY IN THE COUNTY, IT'S TO MAINTAIN RURAL CHARACTER.
THERE'S THE 85, 15 PERCENTAGE CUT BETWEEN VILLAGES AND, AND, AND NON VILLAGE.
THERE, THERE'S MENTION OF DEEP RUN HUNT, YOU KNOW, AREA.
THESE THINGS ARE, ARE IMPORTANT TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COUNTY.
SO THE, THE INTENT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS TO PROTECT THOSE AREAS.
SO ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT OF SIX, HALF A MILLION DOLLAR AND UP HOUSES.
HOW DOES THAT BENEFIT THE COUNTY AND THE RESIDENTS? IT DOESN'T BY ITSELF.
SO AS FAR AS PROTECTING THE RESIDENTS AND THE RURAL CHARACTER, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T BENEFIT THE COUNTY DIRECTLY.
YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS A, A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE LOCAL FIREMEN AND THE TEACHERS AND, AND THAT COULD AFFORD, POSSIBLY, WE COULD CONSIDER THAT.
BUT ANOTHER LARGE HOME, SIX, SIX HOUSES THAT ARE GONNA BE R ONE, THIS, THE DESIGNATION IS NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT DESIGNATIONS OF WHEATLAND AND THE FORDS, WENDY RUN, ET CETERA.
SO I'D LIKE YOU TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
I'M HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH MY VOICE.
MY NAME IS PATRICIA HEDY AND I LIVE AT 2337
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WHEATLAND DRIVE.I, I JUST WANNA SAY TWO POINTS.
ONE IS ABOUT THE INTENT OF THE COMMITMENT FOR RURAL NATURE, AND I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS SWORN TO UPHOLD.
AND I READ IT IN THE ORDINANCE DESCRIBED TO SUPPORT THE RURAL AND THE FORESTED AREAS, AND AGRICULTURE WAS MENTIONED.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT OUT IS THAT TO ENTER WHEATLAND AND WINDY RUN, YOU HAVE ONE ROAD, ONE ROAD IN THE SAME ROAD OUT.
SO, UH, THIS ROAD THAT WAS DESCRIBED AS BEING FLOODED OUT WHERE THE HORSES AND THE DONKEYS LIVE, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THERE.
SO IT IS, IT'S AS SENSITIVE NOT ONLY FOR THE ECOLOGY OF THE WETLANDS, BUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UH, I THINK TO TRY TO GO IN THERE WITH WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO BUILD THOSE HOMES IN A DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NOT DESIGNATED FOR DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S DESIGNATED RURAL ENHANCEMENT, RURAL RESIDENTIAL, AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE INVESTING DOWN IN WENDY RUN ON THESE LARGE LOTS, ARE INVESTING QUITE A LOT OF THEIR WEALTH TO LIVE IN A RURAL AREA BECAUSE IT'S SO DESIGNATED AND SO SAID, PROTECTED IN OUR ORDINANCES.
SO I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT THAT, ABOUT YOUR DUTY TO PROTECT WHAT GLAND HAS ENTRUSTED TO YOU TO DECIDE.
LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD.
I AM SPEAKING, UH, FOR ONE OF MY CHURCH MEMBERS WHO HAPPENS TO BE 90 YEARS OLD WHO LIVES IN FORD'S.
HER PROPERTY IS RIGHT ON THAT LITTLE BLACK BACK TRIANGLE.
SHE DOES NOT SEE ANY BUFFERS ON THAT SIDE.
UH, UH, AND SHE IS VERY, UM, UPSET.
UM, FOR THE LAST THREE, UH, UH, WEEKS.
UH, I'VE BEEN TO CHURCH WITH HER.
UM, HER NAME IS JUNE FRICK, AND YOU CAN SEE HER PROPERTY ON THE LITTLE MAP.
SHE IS IN FORD'S WHEN SHE'S BEEN THERE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, 40 YEARS PLUS.
UM, UH, FORD'S IS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE.
ANYBODY WHO GOES IN FORDS KNOWS THAT THAT IT, IT DOES HAVE LITTLE ACRES ON THE FRONT SIDE, BUT IT HAS LARGE, LARGE LOTS ON THE BACKSIDE.
SOME OF THEM ARE A 10 ACRES AND MORE, UH, ON, ON FED LANE.
SO I'M ASKING YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, UM, IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO ADHERE TO THE, THE PARENT, UM, YOU KNOW, TRACK BIT THAT WE ALL BOUGHT INTO MANY, MANY MOONS AGO, UM, UM, THEN I, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW IT'S RIGHT TO PUT, UM, IT SAYS TWO BY RIGHT.
UM, UH, A THIRD ONE IF YOU GO RR, BUT THEY'RE ASKING TO JUMP TO SIX.
AND THE REASON THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THAT IS BECAUSE IN R ONE, IF IT'S SIX LOTS OR LESS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ANY OPEN SPACE TALKING 16 ACRES VERSUS 140, UM, UH, IN FORDS IN 120, UH, IN, UH, WHEATLAND, THERE'S NO COMPARISON.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS, THIS IS SHOULD, UM, PROTECT, UH, FROM, FROM SPRAWL, UM, AND, AND, UH, ALLOW THIS 90 YEAR OLD TO LIVE OUT HER REMAINING YEARS WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT SOMEBODY, UH, BACKED UP TO HER PROPERTY, YOU KNOW? SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
GOOD EVENING BOARD, UH, JONATHAN LYLE, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
UM, I'M ALSO GONNA ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS APPLICATION AND, UH, I WANNA COMPLIMENT MR. BROWNING.
HE, HE HAS, UH, DONE A GOOD JOB ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY, BUT THIS ONE JUST ISN'T A GOOD FIT.
UM, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS A CHANGE THAT IS REALLY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE RURAL COMMUNITY, THERE'S A SAYING THAT YOU DON'T TEAR DOWN A FENCE
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UNTIL YOU REALLY KNOW WHY IT WAS PUT UP IN SO MANY WAYS, THE COMP PLAN, AND THIS A TWO ZONING, IS A FENCE.IT'S ONE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT AND INVESTED TIME AND, UH, RESOURCES INTO BUYING INTO THE COMMUNITY WERE ANTICIPATING.
AND, AND IT'S NOT A GUARANTEE I UNDERSTAND, BUT ANTICIPATING THAT THEY WOULD NOT FIND THEMSELVES, UH, WITH AN R ONE SUBDIVISION GOING IN IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THEM.
UH, SO KNOWING MR. BROWNING AND, AND OTHERS, I I THINK HE WOULD RISE TO THE CHALLENGE IF HE SAID, ALL RIGHT, YOU GOT A PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU CAN PUT TWO, MAYBE THREE HOUSES IN IF PASSED HIS PROLOGUE, HE'D DO A GOOD JOB WITH THAT.
UH, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE NEED TO CHALLENGE HIM, BUT I THINK HE WOULD RISE TO THAT CHALLENGE IF, IF THAT WAS THE SITUATION GIVEN TO HIM.
BUT THE BIGGER PICTURE IS FOLKS HAVE LOOKED AT GLAND AND THEIR COMMUNITIES AND SAID, WHEN I'M BUYING MY PROPERTY, WHEN I'M MAKING A HOME DECISION, I GOTTA HAVE SOME CONFIDENCE THAT I'M NOT GONNA BE SURPRISED AND FIND, ALL OF A SUDDEN I'VE GOT AN R ONE SUBDIVISION GOING IN WHERE IT'S A TWO OR RURAL RESIDENTIAL OR RURAL ENHANCEMENT.
SO IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT FIT FOR THIS AREA OF THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, I HOPE YOU WILL, UH, DE DENY, UH, THE REQUEST AS IT'S PRESENTED TONIGHT.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND ANDREW BROWNING AGAIN? UH, I, I WOULD ARGUE IN THIS CASE THAT IT DOES FIT WITH WHAT'S CONSISTENT AROUND, I MEAN, THE, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY TWO THREE ACRE LOTS, AND WE'RE PROPOSING TWO TO THREE ACRE LOTS.
SO I DO THINK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH, WITH THE AREA AND MEETS THE OBJECTIVES OF THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
IN, IN THAT CASE, WE ARE PRESERVING THE, THE WETLANDS.
AND THE ONE GENTLEMAN SPOKE ABOUT THE TREES ALONG THE FRONT AND THE WETLANDS.
AND HERE THE FROGS WE'RE PRESERVING THOSE TREES, AND THAT'S THE INTENT OF THAT BUFFER.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AIR, THE ISSUE WITH THE DRAINAGE THROUGH THE WETLANDS, I THINK I ADDRESSED, I MEAN, THERE WAS ALWAYS A, A CREEK WHEN THEY BOUGHT THOSE LOTS.
AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN CROSS TO GET THROUGH THE BACK OF THE LOTS, I MEAN, IT IS, IT'S, UH, INSIGNIFICANT.
DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THIS CASE.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THAT, THAT ISSUE.
UH, WE WILL DEFINITELY BE, THERE WILL BE A REDUCTION IN THE RUNOFF BECAUSE AT LEAST 16, 18 ACRES FROM THIS SITE ARE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DETAIN IT BEFORE IT LEAVES OUR SITE.
SO WE WILL HAVE TO BE REDUCED BY THE STORMWATER RULES SO THAT WE SHOULD IMPROVE THAT SITUATION.
UM, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE.
DO I HAVE ANY GOOD QUESTION? THANK YOU.
OKAY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, IN REGARDS TO WHEATLAND AND FORTS, IT WAS APPROXIMATE TIME THAT THEY WERE DEVELOPED.
UM, 81 86, WASN'T IT? YEAH, IT WAS IN THE, UH, JUST REVIEWED THAT WHEATLAND IS ABOUT 1986.
ARE THEY, DO THEY HAVE ANY PROFFER BUFFERS IN THOSE DEVELOPMENTS? UH, NO.
THE, UM, FORDS BEING DEVELOPED IN THE AGRICULTURE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROFFERS, UM, WHEATLAND DIDN'T HAVE ANY PUFFER REQUIREMENTS.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE COMMENTS? DO I HEAR A MOTION? I KNOW TO ME IT, IT, THE, THE ACREAGE IS EQUAL.
IT IS RIGHT IN BETWEEN THE LOT SIZES OF WHEATLAND AND FORDS.
I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A REASONABLE FIT THERE.
I, I MOVED IT TO COMMISSION RECOMMENDED PROOF A REZONING RZ 20 23 0 0 0 0 6 FOR 16.05.
NINE ACRES ON ROCKFORD ROAD FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE WITH PROPER CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY INDICATING, AYE.
MR. MYERS? NO, I, THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A THREE TWO VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON AUGUST 1ST, 2023,
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WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.[5. District 4 - RZ-2023-00004 Application by Crescent Acquisitions, LLC requesting rezoning of a 28.94 acre portion of a 44.20 acre parcel from Agricultural, Limited (A-2) to Industrial, General (M-2), with proffered conditions, at 2212 Ashland Road on a portion of Tax Map No. 48-1-0-10-0. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Flexible Use.]
OUR FINAL ITEM TONIGHT FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS IS RZ 20 23 4, APPLICATION BY CRESCENT ACQUISITIONS L L C REQUESTING REZONING OF A 28.94 ACRE PORTION OF A 44.28 ACRE PARCEL FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS AT 2212 ASHLAND ROAD ON A PORTION OF TAX MAP NUMBER 48 1010.THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS FLEXIBLE USE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I'M JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, CRESCENT ACQUISITION, LLC IS REQUESTING A TO REZONE 28.94 ACRES OF A 43 PLUS ACRE PARCEL FROM A TWO TO M TWO IN ORDER TO DEVELOP SPECULATIVE INDUSTRIAL USES, UH, TO INCLUDE MANUFACTURING WAREHOUSE DISTRIBUTION ON ASHLAND ROAD.
UM, ON THE DICE IN FRONT OF YOU, THERE ARE SOME AMENDED PROFFERS.
UM, I WANTED TO BRING THOSE TO YOUR ATTENTION.
UH, IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A HOUSEKEEPING, UH, ITEM, BUT I DID, UH, MENTION IT IN THE STAFF REPORT, SO I NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL KNEW IT WAS ADDRESSED.
UM, IT'S IN REFERENCE TO THE BUFFERS, AND IT'S IN REFERENCE TO JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER, THAT'S CLEAR, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE IF, UM, IF THEY WERE NOT MAINTAINED.
UM, AT THE END OF, UM, THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU WILL NEED TO MAKE TWO BOATS IF YOU WISH, TO, UM, ACCEPT THESE PROFFERS TO WAIVE THE TIME LIMIT AND THEN A SECOND VOTE TO, UM, UM, ON YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
SO THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY, UH, NORTH OF SIX I 64TH.
AND ON ASHLAND ROAD, THE PROPERTY, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS SPLIT.
UM, THE PO UH, THE DOTTED LINE REPRESENTS THE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THIS PROPERTY AS FLEXIBLE, THE AREAS SURROUNDING IT.
OH, IT'S ALSO IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT, WHICH IS A DESIGNATION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL.
UM, THE AREAS ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY ARE BOTH IDENTIFIED AS, EXCUSE ME, INDUSTRIAL AND FLEXIBLE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE AREAS, UM, OVER ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE ARE, UM, YOU, YOU HAVE THE, UM, RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT IS, UM, PARKSIDE VILLAGE.
SO THE ZONING MAP, UM, THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING IS WHAT'S THE EXISTING, UH, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THE COMP.
I MEAN, ON THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE HAVE, UM, M TWO TO THE AREAS TO, UM, ON, ON THIS SIDE OF IT ADJACENT, AND THEN ADJACENT TO THE OTHER SIDE, WE HAVE, UM, UM, A TWO, THE PROPERTY ZONED ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS IS THIS, R P U D IS, UH, THE EXTENSION, THE, THE LATEST EXTENSION TO PARKSIDE VILLAGE, ALONG WITH THE, UH, RECENT ZONING THAT WAS PART OF THAT ZONING CASE.
AND SO, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, LANIER INDUSTRIAL PARK IS ADJACENT.
UM, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE TO THE SOUTH.
UM, YOU ALSO HAVE ACROSS THE STREET, LUX STONE CORPORATION, THAT IS WHERE THEY HAVE THEIR FACILITY, UM, FOR, UM, ASPHALT AS WELL AS, UH, THEIR LARGER FACILITY BEHIND IT.
I DID WANNA POINT OUT THE YELLOW DOES SHOW THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL THAT'S IN THE CLOSEST PROXIMITY.
THE FIRST DOT, UM, I GUESS CIRCLE, UM, IS ONE RESIDENCE, AND THAT IS APPROXIMATELY 65 FEET FROM THE, UM, PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT IS VERY CLOSE TO THAT ONE, WHICH IS ABOUT 325 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
I ALSO, UH, MENTIONED IT A COUPLE TIMES, BUT THERE'S ALSO A PARKSIDE VILLAGE.
SO WHAT PROPOSING, UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO DEVELOP SPECULATIVE INDUSTRIAL USES TO INCLUDE MANUFACTURING, WAREHOUSING, DISTRIBUTION USE.
UH, SPECULATIVE BUILDINGS ARE SPEC BUILDINGS.
UH, THEY'RE BUILT WITH TENANT SPACES, BUT THEY'RE DEVELOPED, UM, THAT ARE DEVELOPED AS TENANT SPACES, BUT THERE'S NO END USER INSIGHT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE UP FITTED.
ONCE THE USER WAS, UH, BROUGHT IN.
THEY ARE PROPOSING TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS.
UM, THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE WOULD BE 335,320 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE TUCKAHOE DISTRICT.
I MEAN, TUCK, S, TCS, D
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THE DISTRICT.SO THIS IS A BLOW UP OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BIT CLOSER.
UM, I DID WANNA POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS.
WE DO HAVE A 30 FOOT PERIMETER BUFFER THAT GOES ALONG THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF PROPERTY JUST FOR ORIENTATION.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS ASHLAND ROAD.
UH, THERE ARE TWO PR TREE PRESERVATION AREAS IDENTIFIED.
UM, ONE OF THEM IS, UM, ON THE INSIDE OF THE TREE BUFFER ON THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN, UM, ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THERE'S ANOTHER, UM, TREE SAVE AREA THERE.
I MENTIONED THE BUILDINGS BEFORE IN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
UM, THERE IS IDENTIFIED THE LOCATION OF THE STORMWATER, UH, POND, AS WELL AS, UM, THEY ARE DEDICATING, UH, 62 FEET OF RIGHT AWAY FROM THE CENTER LINE OF ASHLAND ROAD.
UM, THEY HAVE, UM, ASHLAND ON THE, UM, YOU CAN'T SEE THE TOP PART OF IT, BUT IT, THEY DO HAVE TURN LANES THAT THEY ARE PROFFERING.
UH, THEY ARE PROFFERING, AND I'LL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH ON THE TRANSPORTATION IN A SECOND, BUT THEY ARE PROFFERING TO DO, UM, BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES.
UM, THE TURN LANES, UH, THE RIGHT TURN LANES ARE, UH, POTENTIALLY GONNA BE ONE RIGHT TURN LANE AND A TAPER.
OH, AND THEN LASTLY, THERE IS SOME STORAGE HERE ON THE BACK THAT'S IDENTIFIED AS POTENTIAL TRAILER STORAGE.
SO JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE 2023, I MEAN, 2035, EXCUSE ME, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THIS PROPERTY AS FLEXIBLE AND DUE TO ITS PROXIMITY TO I 64 AND THE OTHER HIGHER INTENSITY USES THAT I HAD REFERENCED.
UM, ON THE ASHLAND ROAD CORNER, THIS USE IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR FLEXIBLE DOES, UM, MENTION THAT INDUSTRIAL LIGHTER INDUSTRIAL, UH, UH, TRANSITIONAL AND INDUSTRIAL, UM, IS APPROPRIATE.
UM, BUT NO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING OR NO HOUSING.
UM, I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT IT WAS IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE COUNTY, WHICH IS A DESIGNATION FOR NORTH OF I 64.
UM, THIS IS THE AREA THAT IS IDENTIFIED AS THE COUNTY'S INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.
SO IN ADDITION TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I WANNA JUST, EXCUSE ME, I WANNA DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.
SO THE REZONING REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS OF THE PLAN.
UM, THEY ENCOURAGE, UM, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT NEAR I 64 INTERCHANGES, AS WELL AS IN THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS.
UM, IT ALSO SPECIFICALLY, UM, IDENTIFIES MANUFACTURING, DISTRIBUTING LOGISTICS, UM, AS TARGETED INDUSTRIES FOR THE COUNTY.
AND IT DIRECTS GROWTH WHERE, UM, THERE ARE EXISTING UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND I MENTIONED THIS PROPERTY IS ALREADY IN THE, THE DISTRICT.
UM, SO WE DID ALSO RECEIVE SOME COMMENTS FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, IT'S, UM, BEEN WIDELY KNOWN THAT, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, THEY'RE, THEY SAY THAT WE ARE IN GREAT NEED OF SPEC NE USES.
UH, THEY'VE LOST SEVEN, UM, POSSIBLE PROJECTS DUE TO THE LACK OF A AVAILABLE SPACE LAST YEAR.
UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE STATE HAS A PROGRAM WHERE THEY ALSO, UM, WORK WITH LOCALITIES TO IDENTIFY, UM, LOCATIONS.
THEY WORKED 99 PROJECTS LAST YEAR AND, UM, UH, THAT REQUIRE BUILDING SIZES LESS THAN, UM, 150,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE, SO WE WEREN'T EVEN IN THE RUNNING FOR ANY OF THE, UM, ANY OF THOSE PROJECTS.
SO, UM, TRANSPORTATION, UM, I'M GONNA GET INTO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT THAT WE HAD AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, AS WELL AS ANY OF THE, UM, EMAILS THAT I'VE GOTTEN OR CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH FOLKS.
TRANSPORTATION IS, UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE CITIZENS.
SO I WANT TO KIND OF TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY, UM, REQUIRED AND WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE, UM, OFFERING.
SO PER OUR COUNTY CODE, UM, FOR THIS TYPE OF, UM, USE ON THIS ROAD, BASICALLY WHATEVER COMES OUT OF THE TRANSPORTATION STUDY IS WHAT IS GONNA BE REQUIRED.
SO, UM, I DID ALSO GET SOME QUESTIONS FROM SOME FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I DID LEARN THAT, UM, THIS TRANSPORTATION PLAN, UM, WAS ACTUALLY DONE BY THE SAME FOLKS WHO DID THE, UM, SAME FIRM, NOT FOLKS, UH, THAT DID THE, UH, PROJECT ROCKY TRANSPORTATION.
SO THOSE NUMBERS, THE EXPECTED IMPACTS OF PROJECT ROCKY WERE PART OF THIS DETERMINATION.
SO THE TIA DID FIND THAT LEFT TURN LANES FOR BOTH ENTRANCES WERE REQUIRED, BUT DID NOT SAY THAT, DID NOT, UM, SAY I SAYS RECOMMEND, BUT IT DO, DID NOT INDICATE THAT RIGHT.
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UM, RIGHT TURN LANES WERE REQUIRED AT EITHER ENTRANCE.SO THE TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE MADE PER THE TIA A FINDINGS, AS I MENTIONED, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO THE LEFT TURN LANES AT BOTH ENTRANCES.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROFFERED, UM, ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED IN THE TIA RIGHT TURN LANE AT THE SOUTH ENTRANCE, AND A RIGHT TAPER AT THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE, UH, TIMING STUDY FOR THE POUNCEY TRACKED.
AND ASHLAND ROADS WILL BE FUNDED BY THE APPLICANT.
THEY WILL BASICALLY, UM, PAY FOR A, UH, RETIMING STUDY FOR THE SIGNAL AT POUNCEY TRACK AND ASHLAND RHODES.
UM, AND IF THIS IS ACCEPTED WITH ACCEPTED AND IMPLEMENTED BY VDOT, IT DOESN'T ANTICIPATE TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE CONGESTION THAT WE CURRENTLY SEE TODAY.
SO, MOVING ON, ON TRANSPORTATION, THE COUNTY'S NUMBER ONE TRANSPORTATION PROJECT IS THE DIVERGENT DIAMOND, THE DDI, UM, IT HAS A BOAT MOST RECENTLY RECEIVED FUNDING FROM, UH, SMART SCALE TO FULLY FUND THE PROJECT AT $42 MILLION.
THERE'S, THAT'S ACTUALLY JUST THE MOST RECENT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT'S BEEN AWARDED TO THIS.
UH, LET'S SEE, I JOTTED DOWN, UM, ACTUALLY THERE'S 75.9 MILLION ACTUALLY BEEN DEDICATED TO THIS PROJECT.
SO, UM, THIS, UH, WHICH KIND OF EXPLAINS WHY IT'S SUCH A, UM, HIGH PRIORITY KNOWING THE, THE CURRENT SITUATION.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE POTENTIAL FOR GROWTH OUT HERE.
UM, WE ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY WITH, UM, DESIGNING THE INTERCHANGE AND CONSTRUCTION IS ANTICIPATED TO START APPROXIMATELY 2029.
UM, THERE ARE TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROFFERED BY PROJECT ROCKY, UM, THAT INCLUDES, UM, SIGNAL AS WELL, UH, SIGNAL AT, UM, I 64 AND ASHLAND ROAD, AND SOME EASTBOUND RAMPS, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, UM, THE COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, THE, OVERWHELMINGLY THE, THE CONCERNS WERE IN REFERENCE TO, UH, TRAFFIC.
UM, 60 PEOPLE ATTENDED THE, UM, THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
UH, THEY TALKED ABOUT, UM, MORE TRUCKS ON ASHLAND ROAD, NOT, UM, ACTUALLY ALLOWING ANYTHING UNTIL THE D I D D I IS, UM, COMPLETED PUBLIC SAFETY RESPONSE DELAYS, POTENTIALLY, UM, A, UH, ACCESS SPACING.
OTHER CONCERNS OUTSIDE OF TRAFFIC WERE LACK OF BUFFERING, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
THAT'S THE SAME, UH, NOISE AS WELL AS LIGHT.
UH, WE DID ACTUALLY RECEIVE, UM, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
I RECEIVED FIVE EMAILS AS TO WHEN I FINISHED PUBLISHING THIS.
I ACTUALLY RECEIVED A, A SIX SINCE, UM, SINCE THIS WAS ACTUALLY LOADED.
UM, THOSE MIRRORED PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE HAD HEARD, UM, WITH THE TRAFFIC.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT IMPACTING THE MORAL CHARACTER, THE TIMING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING, BEING IT ON A HOLIDAY WEEK, AS WELL AS, UH, THERE'S A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE BACK THAT I, UH, MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT IS CURRENTLY LANDLOCKED.
SO JUST A QUICK PROFFER SUMMARY.
AND I DO HAVE THE SU UM, THE ACTUAL PROFFERS, THEY'RE IN FRONT OF YOU.
BUT FOR THE, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I CAN GO TO THE FULL PROFFERS, UM, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE, THE FOLKS IN THE AUDIENCE, BOTH HERE AND AT HOME.
UM, SO THEY HAVE PROHIBITED CERTAIN USES WITHIN, UM, THE, UH, THE M ONE ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH ALSO INCLUDES THE M ONE ZONING DISTRICT, M ONE AND M TWO, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN EXHIBIT A, WHICH I HAVE PRESENTED.
UM, THEY ARE PROVIDING NATURAL PRESERVATION AREAS AND LANDSCAPING, AND THEN A FENCE ALONG THE NORTHERN LINE.
IT'S A VINYL FENCE THAT'S BEEN PROFFERED.
UM, AND MENTIONED THE TRAFFIC STUDY, UM, AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY IMPROVEMENTS, AS WELL AS DEDICATING RIGHT OF WAY THE TURN LANES AND, UM, THE RIGHT HAND TURN LANES AND THE SIGNAL RETIMING FOR ASHLAND ROAD AND PCY TRACK ROAD.
UM, SO IN THE STAFF REPORT, I DID HAVE TWO STAFF COMMENTS.
UM, THE PROPERTY, UM, LET ME GO, LET ME SEE IF I CAN GO BACK.
OOPS, SORRY, I'M GOING THE WRONG WAY.
I SHOULD HAVE HAD ANOTHER EXHIBIT.
SO, UM, THE PROPERTY, UM, ON THE REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY DOES NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A PUBLIC ROAD.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS NOW, AND IT, THIS PROJECT IS NOT GIVING, UH, ACCESS.
WE DID TALK WITH THE APPLICANT AND HE SAID IT WAS NOT FEASIBLE, BUT I DID WANNA BRING THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
UH, WE HAVE NO, UM, ABILITY THROUGH OUR CODE TO REQUIRE IT.
SO IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE, UM, FOR REQUESTING, BUT I HAD PUT IT IN THE STAFF REPORT, SO I FIGURED I'D GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE BUFFER, UH, CONCERN THAT WE HAD HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.
SO HERE ARE THE CU CUMULATIVE, UM, IMPLICATION.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS
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PROPERTY AS FLEXIBLE AND IS LOCATED IN THE NORTHEASTERN QUADRANT.UH, FLEXIBLE, AS I'D MENTIONED BEFORE, DUE TO ITS PROXIMITY.
THIS MAY BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMM PLAN.
UH, THE NORTHEASTERN QUADRANT DOES.
UM, DOES, UM, IDENTIFY THE, UH, THIS AREA AS THE COUNTY'S INDUSTRIAL AREA? I'D MENTIONED THAT IT IS IN THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT ALREADY.
UM, AND ADDING, UH, AN ACTIVE BUSINESS TO THIS MAY CONTRIBUTE TO PAYING DOWN THE DEBT.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOALS, UM, THAT I HAD MENTIONED, THE STRATEGIC GOALS AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEED FOR, UM, THE, THESE TYPES OF SITES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND I ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANT HERE, I'M SURE.
UH, HOW FAR IS THIS PROPERTY FROM THE, UM, UNNAMED DISTRIBUTION CENTER? OH, WOW.
UM, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT SPACING.
I WISH THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION THOUGH.
BUT, SO YOU HAVE, UM, LANIER, AND THEN YOU BASICALLY HAVE, UM, UH, PROJECT ROCKY, UM, PROJECT ROCKY EXPERTS.
WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO, UH, WEIGH IN BETWEEN A HALF MILE AND A MILE? SO, UH, ACCORDING TO MR. GOYIN, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN A HALF MILE, HALF MILE AND A MILE.
APPROXIMATELY HOW FAR FROM PARKSIDE VILLAGE? OKAY.
UM, I ACTUALLY, I, I THINK I ACTUALLY DID, UM, HAVE THAT IN MY NOTES.
SO IN MY, IN MY NOTES, I KIND OF GAVE LIKE DISTANCE TO BOTH, UH, AREAS.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND WHERE MY NOTES ARE.
I ANTICIPATED THIS QUESTION BUT DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT WELL ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO FIND IT THAT EASY.
SO, UM, I WILL DEFER THAT QUESTION TO THE APPLICANT AS INSTEAD OF FLIPPING, CONTINUING TO FLIP THROUGH MY, MY PROJECT.
I MEAN, MY, UH, PRESENTATION IS SHERRY.
UH, WHAT, WHAT SIZE IS THE LOT THAT'S BEHIND THE, UM, THE APPLICANT'S PARCEL? THE ONE YOU SAID THAT DID NOT HAVE ACCESS? SO THE LOT IS PARTIALLY IN HANOVER COUNTY, SO I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER.
UM, THIS LOT HERE IS ABOUT 40 ACRES, AT LEAST TWICE THAT SIZE.
IT BORDER IS MANY OTHER PARCELS AS WELL.
UM, THE ROCKY ROAD IMPROVEMENTS MM-HMM.
SO THIS WILL STAY AT TWO-LANE ROAD.
UH, THERE WILL BE THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE MADE ON THE, UM, ON THE SIDE WHERE THEY ARE DOING THE TURN LANE.
SO THAT AREA WILL BE IMPROVED.
SO YEAH, THEY DID TAKE, UM, THE PROJECT ROCKY IMPACT AS PART OF THEIR ANALYSIS.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE COMP IN THE LONG RANGE ROAD PLANS FOR WIDENING? ACTUALLY, I, I THINK I'M GONNA DEFER TO MR. GOIN OUR TRANSPORTATION, UH, BEFORE HE COMES MANAGER EXPERT
UM, OH, YES, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, THE, UM, FULLY FUNDED, UM, UM, DIAMOND.
AND MR. GOIN CAN, UH, TOUCH ON THAT AS WELL.
I DID RUN THOSE NUMBERS PAST HIM.
BECAUSE I WAS SURPRISED AS WELL.
THE DDI SCHEDULE IS CURRENTLY SLATED IN VDOT SYSTEM OF 2029, START DATE, APPROXIMATE.
UM, OUR GOAL IS TO PUSH THAT FORWARD, OBVIOUSLY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, GIVEN A LOT OF THE GROWTH.
ONE THING THAT'S SCHEDULED DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IS THE, UH, OTHER 34 OR SO MILLION DOLLARS ON TOP OF THE 42 THAT SHE MENTIONED IN HER PRESENTATION.
ONCE THAT 34 OR SO IS CONSIDERED, THAT'S AVAILABLE STARTING IN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT CONVERSATIONS, ACTUALLY, I'M MEETING WITH VDOT NEXT WEEK TO DISCUSS NEXT STEPS ABOUT GETTING THAT MONEY OFFICIALLY ALLOCATED TO THE PROJECT, AND WE'RE GONNA SEE WHAT IMPACTS THAT HAS ON THE SCHEDULE.
SO I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE UP NEW SCHEDULE, BUT WE SHOULD HAVE ONE.
BUT FAIRLY, YOU'RE WORKING VERY HARD TO GET THAT NUMBER.
YES, BECAUSE REDUCED BY A LOT.
WE, WE WANT, UM, THE INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS AND A LOT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT TO BE AS CLOSELY LINKED TO HAVE LITTLE TO NO GAP BETWEEN THEM IF POSSIBLE.
MR. PAT TUCK, I HAVE A FOLLOW UP FOR THAT.
WHAT, WHEN DO YOU, YOU SAID YOU HOPE TO UNDERSTAND VERY, VERY SOON, ONCE THE MONEY IS, UH, ALLOCATED TO 34 MILLION? YEAH, IT'S GOTTA GO THROUGH DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS AND SUCH.
I'M MEETING WITH VDOT NEXT WEEK TO DISCUSS THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE YOUR BEST GUESS.
UM, AS FAR AS GETTING THE MONEY ALLOCATED TO THE PROJECT AND KNOWING A NEW SCHEDULE, KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU, UH, NEW SCHEDULE WOULD LIKELY BE
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SOMETIME THIS FALL IS WHEN WE, WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE NEW MONEY WOULD BE OR BETTER AND HOW THAT WOULD UNDERSTANDING RIGHT.THEY'RE NOT HOLDING YOU TO IT.
ONE THING TO, TO NOTE ON THAT IS THAT THE, THE MONEY CURRENTLY WITH JUST THE 42 MILLION HAS PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING STARTING IN 2026.
WELL, THAT'S ALREADY UNDERWAY WITH THE OTHER MONEY THAT'S NOT OFFICIALLY ALLOCATED TO THE PROJECT YET.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION I BELIEVE YOU HAD WAS THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AS FAR AS ASHLAND ROAD.
SO WE DO HAVE IN OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN PLANS FOR ASHLAND ROAD FROM BROAD STREET PRETTY MUCH TO THE HANOVER COUNTY LINE TO EVENTUALLY BE A FOUR LANE ROAD.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA GET A LOT OF THAT THROUGH DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE GONNA GET SOME OF THAT THROUGH I'M SURE PUBLICLY FUNDED PROJECTS.
PART OF WHAT ROCKY'S DOING IS PROVIDING US THE RIGHT OF WAY AND A LOT OF THE PAVEMENT FOR A FOUR LANE SECTION ALONG THEIR FRONTAGE.
WE'RE GETTING THE SAME RIGHT OF WAY THAT ROCKY, UH, PROFFERED IN THIS APPLICATION AS WELL.
62 AND A HALF FEET FROM THE CENTER LINE, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR THAT FOUR LANE, UH, DIVIDED OR UNDIVIDED ROAD DEPENDING ON WHICH AVENUE WE DECIDE TO, TO GO DOWN.
UH, AN IMMEDIATE PLAN THAT WE'RE HOPING ONCE THE DIVERGENT D REALLY GETS SOME, SOME MOMENTUM AND SOME FEET UNDER IT, IS TO LOOK AT A PLAN LIKELY TO BE PUBLICLY FUNDED, TO CLOSE THE GAP BETWEEN THE DDI AND PROJECT ROCKY, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY A QUARTER OF A MILE.
BUT THAT WILL BECOME A PRIORITY, A TOP PRIORITY FOR THE COUNTY STAFF ONCE WE KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE LIMITS OF THE D I.
AND THAT'LL GO PAST THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT? NO, THIS PROPERTY WILL BE, IT'S NORTH, IT'S NORTH OF PROJECT ROCKY.
SO THE PROJECT ROCKY IMPROVEMENTS STOPPED MORE OR LESS ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.
UNDERSTAND, AND THIS IS, I I WOULD SAY ABOUT A HALF MILE OR SO BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEIR SIGNIFICANT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN ROCKY'S SIGNIFICANT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THE PLAN TO FOUR LANE THE ROAD ALL THE WAY UP.
THE PONZI TRACK THERE IS IN THE 2040 MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS TO SEEK FUNDING FOR THE GAP BETWEEN ROCKY AND THE CRESCENT COMMUNITIES PIECE.
WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THAT HAPPEN ORGANICALLY THROUGH SOME DEVELOPMENT, BUT AS DEVELOPMENT PRESSURES CONTINUE, BUT CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PURSUE FROM, FROM A PUBLICLY FUNDED STANDPOINT, YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME.
THANK YOU FOR THAT ENOUGH FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS APPLICANT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I'M AN ATTORNEY AT WILLIAMS MULLEN REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU THIS EVENING.
UM, BEFORE I GET INTO MY PRESENTATION AND NEGLECT ANSWER, UH, MR. MYERS QUESTION EARLIER YOU ASKED ABOUT THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THIS PROJECT AND, UH, THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY SLIGHTLY NORTH ON ASHLAND ROAD, AND IT'S APPROXIMATELY 0.7 MILES MM-HMM.
UM, I, I'M GONNA DO MY BEST NOT TO BE REDUNDANT WITH THE, UH, PRESENTATION, UM, THE VERY DETAILED AND THOROUGH PRESENTATION, UH, BY MS. SHERRY.
BUT I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND AMPLIFY A NUMBER OF COMMENTS, UM, THAT I WAS PLEASED THAT SHE INCLUDED.
AND I'M GONNA START WITH, UH, THE CONVERSATION REGARDING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, THE APPLICANT, UM, IS BRINGING FORWARD THIS APPLICATION IN RESPONSE TO THE BLUEPRINT THAT THE COUNTY PUT OUT.
AS YOU HEARD, GOVERNOR, UH, YOUNGEN AND HIS TEAM IS WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY TO BRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO THE COMMONWEALTH.
AND THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE ONLY AS GOOD AS THE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY CAN BE PLACED.
AND OF COURSE, THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS GLAND'S ATTEMPT TO COMMUNICATE THAT NOT JUST TO THE CITIZENS OF GLAND, BUT ALSO TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTY.
CRESCENT COMMUNITY HAS RESPONDED TO THAT BLUEPRINT AND SAID, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS WHERE GLAND WANTS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY TO GO.
THIS IS WHERE THE COUNTY CAN DEVELOP ITS TAX BASE SUPPORT SERVICES THAT WILL IMPROVE THE LIVES OF THE COUNTY CITIZENS.
AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHAT IS PROPOSED WITH THIS PROJECT AND WHY IT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THIS SPECIFIC LOCATION, UH, BASED ON THE COUNTY'S OWN RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE PLAN THAT, UH, THIS PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD HAVE, UH, HAVE, UH, ULTIMATELY DEVELOPED.
AND SO IF WE LOOK AT THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, IT'S A CONDITIONAL REZONING, WHICH MEANS THAT WHILE IT MAY ALIGN WITH THAT BLUEPRINT, WITH THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE APPLICANT TO PROPOSE TO MITIGATE THE POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS THAT MAY BE PERCEIVED BY THE COMMUNITY.
AND AS YOU'VE HEARD, THE PROFFERS THAT HAVE BEEN OFFERED, SPECIFICALLY ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY THE COMMUNITY, WE'VE HEARD ABOUT WHETHER THIS PROJECT, DESPITE BEING CONSISTENT WITH MANY OF THE INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATIONS ON ABUTTING PROPERTIES, THERE ARE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, A, UH, AGRICULTURALLY ZONED PROPERTIES THAT DIRECTLY ABUT OTHER BORDERS OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND FOR THAT REASON, THERE HAS BEEN INTENTIONALITY PROVIDED IN MAKING SURE THAT THERE ARE ENHANCED
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SETBACK, UH, EXCUSE ME, ENHANCED BUFFERS, ENHANCED TREE PRESERVATION AREAS THAT WILL ATTEMPT TO MITIGATE THE VISUAL IMPACT ON THOSE NEIGHBORS WHO MAY POTENTIALLY SEE, UM, AN ADVERSE IMPACT OF THIS REZONING BEING PROPOSED ON THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.LIKEWISE, YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE TRAFFIC HAS BEEN A PRIMARY CONCERN.
UH, THE APPLICANT ONLY HAS THE ABILITY TO PROFFER THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH ARE CALLED FOR AND WARRANTED BY THE TIA THAT YOU HEARD DESCRIBED BY STAFF.
WE DO HAVE KIMLEY HORN WITH US THIS EVENING.
SHOULD THE COMMISSION HAVE DETAILED QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THAT TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS PREPARED, WHAT THE ASSUMPTIONS WERE, THE BACKGROUND DATA THAT WAS LOADED INTO THAT, AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEN FLOWED FROM THAT.
UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO GO INTO THAT DETAIL, UH, AT YOUR PLEASURE.
BUT THE ULTIMATE, UH, CONCLUSION THAT I WOULD HOPE THIS PLANNING COMMISSION WILL TAKE AWAY IS THAT THIS APPLICANT IS DOING WHAT IT CAN TO PROVIDE INFRASTRUCTURE IN A QUARTER WHERE THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY PRIORITIZED THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FORM OF THE DDI.
LIKEWISE, THE FACT THAT IT'S WITHIN THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT, UH, THAT WILL, UH, THAT CERTAINLY BENEFITS FROM ADDIT ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE TO SUPPORT THE DEBT, THE BONDS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED FOR THOSE PAST IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ADDS TO, UH, HOW THIS PROJECT SPECIFICALLY IN THIS LOCATION ALIGNS WITH THE, UH, THE PRIORITIES OF THE COUNTY.
AND SO HERE ARE THOSE KEY PROFFERED CONDITIONS AS YOU HEARD STAFF DESCRIBE.
UM, I'LL MAKE A FINAL NOTE THAT, UH, THE STAFF REPORT DID DESCRIBE HOW THIS IS A SPECULATIVE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE REASON THAT IT IS SPECULATIVE IS BECAUSE THE SPEED THAT, UH, TENANTS ULTIMATELY REQUIRE WHEN THEY MAKE A DECISION TO GO TO A SITE MEANS THAT THE REZONING HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE THEY MAKE THAT DECISION.
AND SO WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF COMING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE BOARD AND SAYING, WE HAVE THIS TENANT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? IS THIS A FIT? WILL THIS GENERATE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH? INSTEAD, IN ORDER TO RESPOND TO THE DEMANDS OF THE MARKET, WE HAVE TO DO OUR BEST TO CREATE A BOX OF EXPECTATIONS AND SAY THAT BASED ON OUR ASSUMPTIONS, BASED ON THE, THE, UH, DATA THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED BY OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS, BY THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO SPECIFY THAT THIS IS A USE THAT FITS WITH SOME GENERALITY, AND THAT'S WHY WE'VE DESCRIBED IT AS WAREHOUSE LIGHT MANUFACTURING TYPES OF USES.
BUT TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT KIND OF USES MIGHT THE COMMUNITY EXPECT, NOT WITHSTANDING THAT THIS IS A SPECULATIVE DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND CRESCENT COMMUNITIES HAS PROVIDED A NUMBER OF EXAMPLES OF SIMILAR SORTS OF TENANTS THAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT FIT FOR THIS KIND OF PROJECT.
UH, TRICORE BRAUN, WHICH IS A PACKAGING DISTRIBUTOR, IDI DISTRIBUTORS, WHICH IS AN INSULATION DISTRIBUTION, UH, COMPANY FOR RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
HENRY AVOCADO, WHICH IS A FOOD SUPPLIER, COUNTY ELECTRICAL SUPPLY, WHICH IS ELECTRICAL PRODUCTS DISTRIBUTOR, UH, BERTS BEES, A VERY POPULAR CONSUMER PRODUCTS AL INDU, UH, INDUSTRIES, WHICH IS A FIBER, UH, DISTRIBUTOR, UH, AND TRAIN, WHICH OF COURSE IS AN HVAC SUPPLY COMPANY.
THESE ARE ALL EXAMPLES OF NEW CORPORATE CITIZENS THAT WOULD BENEFIT FROM ADDITIONAL SPACE IN GUGLIN, BUT DON'T HAVE IT TODAY.
UH, THIS LITERALLY DOES NOT EXIST IN GLAND OR IN MANY COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE.
THERE'S A TREMENDOUS DEMAND FOR IT, AND WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT PLACE BASED ON WHAT THE COUNTY'S PRIORITIES ARE.
I'D WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO READDRESS THE COMMISSION, UM, SHOULD THERE BE ANY CONCERNS RAISED BY THE COMMUNITY, AND WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS AS WELL.
I HAVE A QUESTION, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, WHAT I, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO, TO MOVE FORWARD, WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU ESTIMATE THE TIMELINE TO BE FROM START TO FINISH? UM, UH, THE TIMELINE ON WHEN DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY WOULD OCCUR, OR BETWEEN WHEN IT'S COMMENCED TO WHEN IT WOULD BE COMPLETED? COMPLETE THE LATTER.
UM, I, I WOULD PREDICT ABOUT, UH, A SITE PLAN APPROVAL WOULD STILL NEED TO BE APPROVED AND THEN BUILDING PERMITS.
SO FROM TODAY TO WHEN IT'S COMPLETE, I'D SAY PROBABLY TWO AND A HALF YEARS, TWO YEARS, GIVE OR TAKE.
UM, TWO TO TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPEAK? EXCUSE ME.
PLEASE COME UP TO THE FRONT SO WE CAN SAVE SOME TIME.
JUST REMEMBER WE'RE IN THE RED LIGHT BLINKS.
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I LIVE AT 2222 ASHLAND ROAD.UM, I LIVE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF MY FAMILY FARM.
UM, I WASN'T PREPARED TO SPEAK TODAY.
I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS MEETING YESTERDAY WHEN I GOT BACK FROM VACATION.
UM, WHAT I WILL SAY IS, UH, I HAVE SEVERE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AS WELL AS, UH, SOME OF THE NOISE I NOTICED THERE IS STILL NO, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT DURING THE MEETING ABOUT A TREE LINE OR SOME DIVISION ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, WHO I KNOW THAT THAT PERSON WHO'S NOT HERE TODAY WAS SEVERELY CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, MY UNCLE'S PROPERTY THAT ALSO ADJOINS HIS, THAT WAS ALSO HIGHLIGHTED THERE.
HE'S REQUIRED TO HAVE THE TREES ALL AROUND HIS PROPERTY BECAUSE OF HIS BUSINESS, BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE A TREE LINE.
THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A TREE LINE BETWEEN THEM AND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
UM, BUT STILL MY CONCERN IS THIS IS TOO SOON BEFORE THE ROADS CAN, CAN HANDLE THIS MUCH TRAFFIC ALONG WITH PROJECT ROCKY AND I'M SURE OTHER, UM, BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING THROUGH AT THIS TIME.
AND THEN AS WELL AS A PERSONAL NOTE THAT DOESN'T REALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THIS AFFECTS, BUT, UH, I KNOW FROM THE FACT FOR A FACT THAT THE, THE TRUSTEE IS UNABLE TO SPEAK FOR HERSELF.
THIS IS BEING SOLD BY THE, THE TRUST COMPANY WITHOUT THE REST OF THE FAMILY'S PERMISSION.
AND EX, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE FAMILY MEMBER THAT WOULD, WOULD INHERIT THAT, THE REST OF 'EM ARE AGAINST THE SALE OF THIS PROPERTY.
SO I WANTED TO LET THAT BE KNOWN AS WELL.
UM, WITH THAT, UH, LIKE I SAID, THOSE ARE MY MAJOR CONCERNS.
WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH TROUBLE GETTING OUT OF OUR DRIVEWAY SOMETIMES AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO MAKE SEVERE DETOURS AT DIFFERENT HOURS OF THE DAY, TRAFFIC BACKING ALL THE WAY UP TO TRACTOR SUPPLY AS IT IS CURRENTLY.
AND I DON'T FORESEE THIS INTERSECTION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT EVEN SLATE UNTIL 2029.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT'S GONNA HANDLE THE GROWTH.
THAT ALSO INCLUDES GROWTH IN HENRICO, I MEAN HANOVER COUNTY.
MY NAME IS LINDA PRICE AND I'M A RESIDENT AT, UH, PARKSIDE VILLAGE, 74 72 BRANDES STREET.
UM, I GUESS WHAT STRIKES ME IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THE CRESCENT COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MAY BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ASHLAND ROAD TRAFFIC, THE WAY THAT IT EXISTS NOW AND THE WAY THAT IT'S GONNA EXIST ONCE PROJECT ROCKY COMES IN.
AND ONCE THIS COMMUNITY COMES IN.
WE'VE HEARD, UH, SOME TALK TONIGHT THAT THE DIVERGENT DIAMOND, UM, IS SLATED TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION IN 2029.
AND FOR YOUR ELDERLY RESIDENCE AT PARKSIDE VILLAGE IN OVER 55, UH, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
I'VE ALSO HEARD TONIGHT THAT, WELL, WE MAY BE GETTING SOME MORE FUNDS, BUT THAT'S NOT CERTAIN EITHER.
IT STRIKES ME THAT THERE IS A LOT OF SPECULATION WITH THE TRAFFIC AND THE ROADS ON ASHLAND ROAD, AND THAT'S OF PRIMARY CONCERN TO ANYBODY THAT USES ASHLAND ROAD, WHETHER IT'S THE ELDERLY RESIDENTS AT PARKSIDE VILLAGE WHO ARE, ARE IN NEED OF EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET DOWN ASHLAND ROAD OR ANYONE THAT USES ASHLAND ROAD, WHICH IS REALLY AT THIS POINT, NOT EVEN SERVICEABLE.
UM, DURING RUSH HOUR FROM FOUR O'CLOCK ON IN THE AFTERNOON, YOU CAN SIT AND SIT AND SIT ON ASHLAND ROAD IN THE SAME IN THE MORNING.
I'M GLAD THAT THE COUNTY IS LOOKING INTO GETTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR IMPROVEMENTS OF ASHLAND ROAD, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT BE A LITTLE MORE CERTAIN BEFORE WE START ADDING MORE IMPACT TO THAT TRAFFIC ON ASHLAND ROAD.
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LEVITT, 70 36 BEN HALL CIRCLE, AND IT'S WITH GREAT PRIDE AND CONFIDENCE THAT I CONVEY MY TIME TO MY HUSBAND, STEVE LEVITT.I ALSO LIVE AT 70 36 BEN HALL CIRCLE.
I'VE SPENT HOURS COMPARING THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OF THIS PROJECT WITH OUT OF PROJECT ROCKY, UH, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION EVERYONE SHOULD BE ASKING IS, WHAT WILL THIS PROJECT IF APPROVED DUE TO THE TRAFFIC IN 2026? KIMLEY HORN'S ANALYSIS PROJECTS, LINEAR TRAFFIC GROWTH OF 2% PER ANNUM ADD 1,801 TRIPS PER DAY FROM CRESCENT COMMUNITIES, AND THEY WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE IT'S INCONSEQUENTIAL IN 2019.
VDOT ESTIMATED THAT THE DAILY TRAFFIC VOLUME FROM HANOVER LINE TO I 64 WITH 7,000 VEHICLES 1,801 TRIPS PER DAY GENERATED BY CRESCENT COMMUNITIES, REPRESENTS A NEARLY 25% INCREASE IN THAT TRAFFIC.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ADD THE TRAFFIC GENERATED BY ROCKY? THE TRAFFIC VOLUME ON ASHLAND ROAD WILL EXPLODE TO 17,328 TRIPS PER DAY, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 250% INCREASE OVER TODAY'S TRAFFIC VOLUME.
NOW, GLIN HAS REPORTED THAT IT HAS SECURED OR SEEMS TO HAVE SECURED FULL FUNDING FOR THE DIVERGENT DIAMOND AT ASHLAND ROAD IN 64.
THIS WHEN COMPLETED IS EXPECTED TO IMPROVE THE CONGESTION.
HOWEVER, THE DDI AND OTHER PLANNED TRAFFIC MITIGATION WILL ALL OCCUR SOUTH OF ROCKY.
IT IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING NORTH OF ROCKY WHERE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY A PROBLEM ASKING VDOT TO STUDY RETIMING A SINGLE TRAFFIC LIGHT AT ASHLAND AND POUNCEY TRACK WILL DO LITTLE TO MITIGATE A 250% INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WHEN YOU'RE SITTING IN TRAFFIC.
THE FLOW IS EVERY BIT AS IMPORTANT AS A NUMBER OF VEHICLES.
IF A CAR STOPS OR THERE'S AN ACCIDENT, TRAFFIC SLOWS OR STOPS.
WITH THIS IN MIND, I QUESTION THE WISDOM OF THE APPLICANT PLACING TWO ENTRANCES OFF ASHLAND ROAD.
THE ESTABLISHED SPACING FOR A NON SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION OF A MINOR ARTERIAL ROAD, SUCH AS ASHLAND IS 660 FEET PER AUSTIN, GOIN THE APPLICANT WITH THE CONSENT OF THE COUNTY AND VDOT PROPOSES PLACING TWO ENTRANCES 475 FEET APART.
SOUTHBOUND, YOU'LL HAVE ONE RIGHT TURN LANE AND A TAPERED LANE, WHICH BY ITS VERY NATURE WILL OBSTRUCT TRAFFIC.
IT'S IT'S DESIGNED AS AN INTERMITTENT TRAFFIC IMPEDIMENT.
THESE TRAFFIC ISSUES HAVE VERY REAL CONSEQUENCES TO THE RESIDENTS OF PARKSIDE VILLAGE.
THE MORE TRAFFIC YOU CREATE, THE SLOWER RESPONSE TIMES WILL BE FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES.
REDIRECTING PARKSIDE FIRE AND RESCUE CAUSED TO, UH, CAUSED TO HANOVER AND HENRICO AS CHIEF FERGUSON HAS PROPOSED, WHILE ROCKY WAS BEING CONSIDERED WILL ADD PRECIOUS RESPONSE TIMES PARKSIDE VILLAGES A 55 PLUS COMMUNITY.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE NEED IS GREATER THERE THAN MOST OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY.
AS TRAFFIC CONTINUES TO INCREASE NORTHBOUND ON ASHLAND ROAD, PARKSIDE IS EXPECTING, UH, A OR IS EXPERIENCING A SIGNIFICANT UPTICK IN COMMERCIAL AND PASSENGER VEHICLES CUTTING THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO AVOID THE LIGHT AT ASHLAND AND POUNCEY TRACK.
IF THIS PAR THIS PROJECT IS APPROVED, THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC WILL MOST DEFINITELY INCREASE.
WE'RE FRUSTRATED WITH THE COUNTY.
THE COUNTY WORKS EFFECTIVELY WITH VDOT TO MAKE A ACCOMMODATIONS AND FACILITATE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
HOWEVER, THE COUNTY IS UNWILLING TO TO PROVIDE THE SAME ASSISTANCE TO ITS RESIDENTS TO SOLVE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. UH, AS A BYPRODUCT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT SHOULDN'T BE TOO MUCH OF TO ASK FOR NO THROUGH TRAFFIC SIGNS AT THE ENTRANCES TO PARKSIDE.
I'M AGAINST, UH, I'M NOT AGAINST COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
HOWEVER, I ASK THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER THE TRAFFIC IMPLICATIONS OF OUTLINED AND DENY THIS APPLICATION.
I WOULD FURTHER ASK THAT IN THE FUTURE, THIS COMMISSION ONLY APPROVE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ALONG THE ASHLAND ROAD CORRIDOR ON PARCEL SOUTH OF COMMERCE ROAD, ALLOW US A LITTLE BIT OF COUNTRY IN WHAT IS BECOMING A CORNER OF THE CITY.
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CAN WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT AGAIN? YEAH.ANYBODY, ANYBODY ELSE WANNA COMMENT? UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WILL THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK AGAIN? THANK YOU.
UH, I'LL BRIEFLY CLOSE JUST BY REITERATING THAT, UH, WE DO HAVE THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS HERE WHO'D BE DELIGHTED TO PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION REGARDING SOME OF THE SPECIFICS OF THE STUDY THAT WERE RAISED IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, BUT I WON'T BELABOR THAT NOW AND STILL INVITE YOUR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU.
ANYBODY WANNA HEAR FROM, UH, TRAFFIC? YES.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA MAKE A PRESENTATION.
OH NO, I'M JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE EFFECT OF, OF THIS GOING FORWARD PRIOR TO THE D D I B AND SURE.
SO JUST TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY PROCESS, IT BEGINS WITH A MEETING WITH COUNTY STAFF AND MR. GOIN AND WITH VDOT STAFF WHERE WE PRESENT WHAT THE PROJECT WILL BE, WHAT THE TRIP GENERATION ESTIMATES WILL BE.
SO AT THAT MEETING, UH, BOTH THE COUNTY AND V VDOT THOUGHT THAT OUR ORIGINAL ESTIMATES FOR WHAT THE USE WOULD BE WOULD BE TOO LOW.
SO WE, WE WENT AHEAD AND UPPED THE, UH, TRIP GENERATION POTENTIAL AND ALMOST DOUBLED IT, UH, TO 120 TRIPS PER HOUR.
UM, THAT NUMBER MIGHT SEEM, UH, HIGH, BUT IF YOU CONSIDER AN HOUR, UH, OF INBOUND AND OUTBOUND TRAFFIC WITH THAT SPLIT, IT'S COMPARED TO, TO WHAT THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ON ASHLAND ROAD, IT'S REALLY MINUSCULE AND ALMOST IMMEASURABLE.
UM, SO AS, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ANALYSIS, WE GROW THE BACKGROUND TRAFFIC.
SO WE APPLIED THE 2%, UH, UH, GROWTH RATE UNTIL WE REACH THE FUTURE YEAR.
THEN WE APPLY THE PROJECT ROCKY TRAFFIC, AND THEN WE APPLY OUR TRAFFIC.
THE DIFFERENCE THAT OUR TRAFFIC IN DELAYS, SO WE TALK SECONDS PER VEHICLE ADDS TO THE INTERSECTIONS IN THAT AREA IS, IS, IS NOT MORE THAN TWO OR THREE SECONDS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE IMPACT OF, OF THE TRIPS ASSOCIATED.
THE OVERESTIMATE OF THE TRIPS, UH, USING THE PROJECT WILL BE A FEW SECONDS IN DELAY.
OVERALL, IS THERE A, UH, ANY SORT OF MULTIPLIER THAT YOU HAVE WHEN, UH, IN TRAFFIC STUDIES, UH, WITH TRUCKS VERSUS NORMAL LIGHT DUTY VEHICLES? CORRECT.
THE, THE HEAVY VEHICLE PERCENTAGES ARE COLLECTED WHEN WE COLLECT THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES PROJECT.
ROCK, IRAQI'S, TRUCK PERCENTAGES WERE ALSO INCORPORATED IN THE MODELS.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE, IT'S A FEW SECONDS.
IF THESE, THIS GOES FORWARD AND PROJECT ROCKY GOES FORWARD, WITH BOTH OF THEM HAVING DONE IT, IT WOULD ONLY ADD A FEW SECONDS OR BETWEEN, SO IF PROJECT ROCKY IS BUILT TOMORROW AND WE ARE BUILT TWO DAYS FROM THEN THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROJECT ROCKY AND US IS A FEW IS ONLY TWO OR THREE SECONDS.
ONCE PROJECT ROCKY IS DONE, THEN YOU ALL WOULD ADD ANOTHER TWO SECONDS.
SO PROJECT ROCKY'S CONSIDERED A BACKGROUND PROJECT AND THAT'S THE BASELINE OF WHAT WE'RE COMPARING TO.
COULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS OR JUST YOUR NAME AS FINE COMPANY? UH, UH, OMAR CANON WITH KIMLEY HOR AND ASSOCIATES.
YOU HAVE ANY TIMELINE ON THAT? WE DO HAVE A TIMELINE ON THAT AND I'M GONNA DEFER TO, UH, SARAH WORLEY, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
UH, WE HAD THE CONVERSATION EARLIER TODAY, BUT SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO EXPAND.
SARAH WORLEY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR GOLAND COUNTY? YES.
UM, PROJECT ROCKY IS STILL MOVING FORWARD.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY UNDER SITE PLAN REVIEW.
UH, I DO NOT HAVE AN ANTICIPATED TIMEFRAME FOR AN OPENING.
UM, THEY, THEIR IMPROVEMENTS, THEY ARE PROFFERED INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS THAT WENT ALONG WITH THEIR REZONING CASE.
ONE OF THEM IS A, UM, RIGHT TURN LANE, UM, TO BE ADDED ONTO THE ENTRY ONTO, UH, 64 WESTBOUND AND THEN A, UH, STOPLIGHT AT THE ENTRY TO THE 64 RAMP.
SO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ARE TEMPORARY IN NATURE.
THEY'LL GO AWAY WHEN THE DDI IS CONSTRUCTED.
THOSE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE TO BE IN PLACE 45 DAYS AFTER THE PROJECT, ROCKY BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED.
SO GIVEN A ROUGH ESTIMATE, WE'RE ASSUMING THAT THE PROJECT, ROCKY BUILDING PERMIT COULD BE ISSUED AS EARLY AS NEXT SUMMER.
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SO, UM, IF THEY KEEP ON THE CURRENT TIMEFRAME, THE BUILDING PERMIT, BUILDING PERMIT, SO RIGHT.SO THEN 45 DAYS AFTER THAT, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE IN PLACE.
SO THERE WOULD BE INTERIM IMPROVEMENTS AS EARLY AS NEXT SUMMER.
UM, IN THE MEANTIME BETWEEN PROJECT ROCKY AND WHEN CRESCENT ACQUISITIONS COMES ONLINE FOR CLARITY, WHEN YOU SAY BUILDING PERMIT, THAT'S START OF CONSTRUCTION.
THAT IS START OF CONSTRUCTION.
AND WHAT, IS THERE ANY BALLPARK IDEA OF COMPLETION? OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS JOB.
IT'S, UH, I WOULD, I WOULD, YEAH, I, THEY ORIGINALLY GAVE US A DATE WHEN THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THE REZONING OF, UM, 2025 IS WHEN THEY WANTED TO BE OPERATIONAL.
CONSIDERING THEY'RE NOT STARTING BEFORE 24, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT ACHIEVABLE.
ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR ANYBODY? NO.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, WOULD YOU PROVIDE SOME CLARITY WITH THE, UH, THE BUFFER ON THE NORTH SIDE WITH, WITH ONE OF THE RESIDENTS.
WOULD YOU PROVIDE SOME CLARITY FOR THAT, PLEASE? I, I'D BE HAPPY TO IF I COULD.
UM, HERE, YOU ME, FIND THAT, YEAH, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND.
UM, EITHER I THINK IT'D BE MINE.
ACTUALLY GO GO TO MR. UH, BOYD'S.
UM, THE TREE PRESERVATION AREA SHOWN AT, UH, THE BOTTOM OF THE PLAN AS WELL AS, UH, TO THE LEFT OF THE PLAN, UH, JUST TO THE LEFT OF THE ADDITIONAL TRAILER STORAGE.
EACH OF THOSE ARE THE TWO TREE PRESERVATION AREAS.
ALONG THE NORTHERN SETBACK, THERE WOULD BE A DUAL ROW OF PLANTINGS ALONG WITH A FENCE CONSTRUCTED BOTH AT SIX FEET HIGH MINIMUM AT INSTALLATION.
SO THERE IS A, A, A TREE LINE BUFFER? PLANTED BUFFER? YES, SIR.
BECAUSE THERE'S NO EXISTING FOLIAGE TO RETAIN.
IS THAT TREES OR BUSHES? TREES.
AND THAT EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM STANDARD SET FORTH IN THE CODE BETWEEN AN INDUSTRIAL AND AN AGRICULTURAL PROPERTY QUESTION.
ANY DISCUSSION? GENERAL DISCUSSION? I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THE COMMENT THAT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, UM, THIS AREA HAS A LOT OF PRESSURE.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THIS IS A PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORRIDOR FOR THE COUNTY, UH, FOR THIS TYPE OF USE.
UH, MY, MY HESITATION IS, UM, UM, IS SEEING WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS FALL, UNDERSTANDING MORE OF A MORE ACCURATE TIMELINE ON IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CORRIDOR AND WHAT MONEY'S BEEN ALLOTTED AND EVERYTHING.
I THINK THE USE, UH, FITS, BUT, UM, THE TIMELINE IS WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WITH.
I THINK WE'RE KIND OF JUMPING TO GUN ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BEFORE WE REALLY HAVE A DUCKS IN A ROW.
I HAPPEN TO NOTICE IN THE, UH, BOARD SUPERVISORS MEETING, OR EARLY PART OF THE WEEK, I GUESS IT WAS, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE COUNTY AND HOW WELL IT WAS DOING.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE REVENUE IS, IS BALANCING OWES AND KEEPING THE PROPERTY TAXES DOWN.
SO THE, UH, THE STRESS FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, FROM WHAT THE, THE BOARD BORDERS REPORTING DOESN'T SEEM TO BE AS, AS GREAT AS, UH, ONE MIGHT THINK.
UH, AND I REALLY THINK, UH, I KNOW I TRAVEL UP AND DOWN ASHEVILLE ROAD PERIODICALLY AND IT'S JUST A, A BEAR TO GET THROUGH THERE WITH ALL THE GRAVEL TRUCKS.
AND, UH, THERE'S MORE AND MORE TRAFFIC COMING, TRAFFIC COMING OVER THE, UH, OFFICE PARKS.
AND I JUST THINK THIS IS, UH, JUST A LITTLE TOO PREMATURE UNTIL WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE STATUS OF THE, THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ARE GONNA BE.
UH, AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE ANY ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
UH, I JUST THINK IT'S, UH, UH, PROBABLY RIGHT NOW A LITTLE TOO, A LITTLE TOO EARLY, UH, TO, UH, TO PUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON THE ROAD THAT'S ALREADY OVERCROWDED.
CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS MAY BE FINISHED ALONG A LOT EARLIER THAN, UH, THE PROJECT ROCKY AND THE, UH,
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THE DIAMOND ONE.WE WOULD STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF YEARS THOUGH BEFORE THIS WOULD GENERATE THE TRAFFIC THAT IS, YOU THINK IS, IT'S UNKNOWN, RIGHT? I MEAN, OUR TRAFFIC ADVISOR SAID THEY WERE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, MERGE THESE THINGS AS CLOSELY AS POSSIBLE AND TRYING TO WORK WITH VDOT TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE FASTER.
SOMETIMES THAT DOESN'T GO AS PLANNED.
I WAS EXPECTING PARKSIDE VILLAGE RESTAURANT, OUR RESIDENTS, TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE.
UM, WHEN, UM, WHEN THE, UM, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED PARKSIDE VILLAGE QUITE A FEW YEARS AGO, I THINK BY NOW, THAT'S, THAT'S AN APPLICATION WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE LIKED TO GOTTEN BACK.
CUZ MOST PEOPLE WHO, WHO BOUGHT THEIR HOMES THERE PROBABLY HAD NO CLUE THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS HEADED THEIR WAY, ALTHOUGH, UM, THEY KNEW THEY WERE PRETTY CLOSE TOWARD M TWO ZONING.
AND, UM, MY, UM, NOT SOMETHING IS WITH THEM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THIS PROJECT SORT OF AGREES WITH THE, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PLANS FOR, FOR THAT CORRIDOR IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UM, BUT THE, BUT THEY, BUT THE TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW IS DEFINITELY GONNA BE A PROBLEM WITHOUT THE, AND, AND I, I REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OF AN EFFECT THEY THE DDI IS GONNA HAVE, BUT THAT'S A LONG, LONG WAY OFF IF THEY'RE NOT EVEN GONNA START UNTIL, UH, 2029.
WELL, AND MY CONCERN IS I KNOW WHERE THE ECONOMY IS RIGHT NOW.
A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ARE COMING IN MM-HMM.
I DON'T KNOW THAT, I WAS JUST, JUST HEARD THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE THAT THE DDI WILL COME IN 2, 3, 4 YEARS IF IT'S WAY OVER BUDGET, ESPECIALLY IF WE GET A NEW, UH, NEW GOVERNOR.
UH, IT'S NOT AS INTERESTED IN THESE KIND OF THINGS AS THE CURRENT ONE IS.
SO I THINK IT'S A, IT'S KIND OF A RISK AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
DO WE HAVE SOMETHING, A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND AND WORK GOING ON? I THOUGHT WE SAID THAT THE DDI IS FUNDED.
IT'S NOT LIKE THE FUNDING IS GOING AWAY.
UH, IT MAY BE BECOME OVER BUDGET, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S MONEY TO TO, TO SOLVE THAT.
SO WE DO HAVE 75.9 MILLION ALLOCATED TO THE DDI.
THAT DOES HAPPEN TO INCLUDE A 30% CONTINGENCY FOR FUTURE AND INFLATION.
AND SO ON THE INFLATION FACTOR OVER A SIX YEAR PERIOD FOR THAT PROJECT, WHEN YOU SCALE IT ALL OUT, IT'S ACTUALLY 29%.
SO WE'RE HOPING, AND VDOT IS HOPING THAT THEY'RE AGGRESSIVE ON THE FRONT END, THEREFORE IT'LL COVER A LOT OF THE ISSUES WE'VE BEEN SEEING ON THE BACK END WITH THESE OVER BUDGET PROJECTS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE HOPE MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, NOT ONLY THE DDI.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THE 70 MILLION INCLUDES, IT INCLUDES A 30% CONTINGENCY FOR THINGS LIKE MA UH, CURRENT MARKET INFLATION, THERE'S 50 MILLION THEORETICALLY WITH NO, THE 20 IN THE POCKET.
UM, CERTAINLY WE, WE DON'T KNOW THE ENTIRETY OF THE SCOPE YET AS FAR AS HOW FAR UP ASHLAND ROAD, NORTH OR SOUTH.
THE PROJECT'S GONNA GO VERY CONCEPTUAL AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THAT 30 MILLION AS WELL AS VDOT IS, IS VERY HOPEFUL THAT THAT, THAT, EXCUSE ME, 30%, NOT 30 MILLION WILL COVER ANY OF THOSE CONTINGENCIES AND FUTURE INFLATION.
WAS THERE ANY PLAN TO EXTEND IT PAST WHERE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS GOING THAT FAR UP ASHLAND ROAD? UH, THE DDI PROJECT WILL STOP IN AND AROUND THE EXISTING PARKING RIDE IN THAT VICINITY.
AND THEN WE WILL LOOK AT BOTH THROUGH DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND PUBLICLY FUNDED PROJECTS TO WIDE ASHLAND ROAD FURTHER TOWARDS THE COUNTY LINE.
SINCE WE GOT MOVED UP TO THE TOP OF THE LIST, I DON'T EXPECT WE'LL GO GET ANY MORE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT FUNDING ANYTIME SOON.
WELL, WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN THE PAST WITH OTHER PRIORITIES, SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN, UH, CONTINUE TO KEEP ASHLAND ROAD AT THE F AT THE FOREFRONT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THE COUNTY AND ITS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, NEED IN THAT AREA.
CAN YOU PLEASE SPEAK TO IF POSSIBLE MM-HMM.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT AT ALL? SO I WILL SPEAK TO SOME OF THAT.
I DON'T WANNA OVERSTEP WITH WHAT THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER MAY BE ABLE TO ADD, BUT IT, UM, THEIR TRAFFIC STUDY
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DOES SHOW WHAT THE ANALYSIS IS PRE DDI AND IT'S NOT SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT PROJECT ROCKY AND THEY'RE BUILDING ON TOP OF WHAT PROJECT ROCKY'S IMPACTS ARE.PRE DDI PROJECT ROCKY DID THE EXACT SAME ANALYSIS.
SO THEIR ANALYSIS IS LOOKING AT THE CORRIDOR AS IT IS TODAY WITH, I BELIEVE ROCKY'S, UH, TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENTS.
IS THAT ACCURATE? UM, SO IT'S, THOSE ARE THE IMPACTS THAT WE WOULD SEE TODAY.
AND THE DDI, WE ARE EXPECTING IT TO TAKE THE QUEUING THAT WE'RE SEEING AND, AND, AND THE DELAYS BACK TO TRACTOR SUPPLY FROM THE SIGNAL.
UM, WE'RE EXPECTING THAT TO, TO FIX THAT REMARKABLY WELL, AND B IS ON BOARD WITH ALL, ALL OF THAT.
BDI IS IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD SAY AS WELL.
VDO TS APPROVED THIS, UH, TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY JUST AS THEY APPROVE ROCKY'S AND THEY CONCUR WITH ALL THE FINDINGS AS, AS FAR AS BUILDING ON TOP OF ROCKY'S DATA AND SO ON.
QUESTION FOR YOU MR. BOYNE? YES.
UH, REGARDING PROJECT ROCKY AND NOT THE TALK ABOUT THE OTHER CASE.
THE, UM, THE INGRESS EGRESS OF THAT PROJECT IS OFF PEAK HOURS WITH RESPECT TO, UH, DELIVERIES AND THE DISTRIBUTION, THE, YOU KNOW, MIDPOINT DISTRIBUTION, WHATEVER.
IT, AS, AS I RECALL THERE, THE, THE PEAK DISTRIBUTION IS, IS OFF OFF NORMAL PEAK AS AS, AS WELL AS I BELIEVE THE SHIFT HOURS.
IT'S NINE FIVE, IT'S OUT OF THE, IT'S, THEIR FACILITY IS NOT A TYPICAL NINE TO FIVE.
I KNOW THAT THIS APPLICANT CAN'T EXACTLY PROMISE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER AS FAR AS HOURS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC TENANTS YET.
ROCKY, THAT WAS A SPECIFIC TENANT.
AND SO TO DOVETAIL INTO THAT, DOES THAT IMPACT, IS THAT CALCULATED INTO THE TRAFFIC CALCULATIONS? I BELIEVE Y'ALL DID STRICTLY LIKE A NINE TO FIVE OPERATION WITH NORMAL PEAK.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE MAYBE SEEING SUCH LOW NUMBERS IS BECAUSE OF PROJECT ROCKY'S TIME.
WELL, PROJECT ROCKY'S TIA ACTUALLY MODELED IT AS IF IT WERE A NINE TO FIVE JOB.
IS THAT, IS THAT ACCURATE? WHAT WAS THE QUESTION AGAIN? SORRY.
I STATED THAT PROJECT ROCKY, UM, THEIR TIA MODELED IT AS IF THEY HAD OPERATIONS DURING NORMAL PEAK HOURS.
WHEN THEY HAVE A USER SUCH AS, UH, THEY HAVE, THEY, THEY'RE MUCH MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE DAILY OPERATIONS OF THAT SITE.
SO THEY CAN BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE, IN THE AM AND PMP CAR.
SO TIME OF DAY WAS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THAT.
SO, BUT JUST QUICKLY TO ADD, I KNOW WE'VE BEEN, UH, MENTIONING PROJECT ROCKY WITH THIS HAND IN HAND AND, AND THE SCALE OF THE TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE TWO IS, IS NOT EVEN COMPARABLE.
SO, UH, THE SITE IS, IS APPROXIMATELY A 10TH OF THE TRAFFIC THAT PROJECT ROCKET WOULD GENERATE.
SO IT'S OPERATING POSSIBLY DURING PEAK HOURS OR NORMAL BUSINESS OPERATING HOURS OF EIGHT TO FIVE.
SO THE NUMBER THAT I STATED, THE 120 TRIPS IS THE HIGHEST, UH, HOUR THAT THIS SITE WOULD GENERATE.
WELL DEPEND DEPENDING ON THE USER, BUT GENERALLY THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE THE HIGHEST HOUR, RIGHT? UH, STAFF YOU PROBABLY, THERE'S NO, UH, RESTRICTION ON THE OPERATING HOURS FOR THIS PROJECT.
IT COULD RUN THROUGH THE NIGHT OR THAT IS CORRECT.
THERE IS NO LIMIT OF HOURS OF OPERATION.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? ENTERTAIN A MOTION? MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THAT I'M GONNA APPROVE, MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING Z 20 23 0 4 FOR 28.94 ACRES ON ASHLAND ROAD ON A PORTION OF MAP TAX.
MAP NUMBER 48 DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH ONE ZERO DASH ZERO, UH, FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED, APPROVE AS AMENDED.
I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING OR Z 2023 DASH 0 0 4 FOR 28.94 ACRES ASHLAND ROAD ON A PORTION OF TAX MAP NUMBER 48 DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 1 10 0 FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS AS AMENDED.
UM, MR. PATAK, CAN YOU SPECIFICALLY, UM, ADD TO THAT, THAT YOU ARE WAIVING THE TIME LIMITS ON THE, UM, PROFFERS THAT WERE, UH, SUBMITTED TO YOU THIS EVENING? YES.
MR. D HAD SOME QUESTIONS FIRST.
WHAT'D YOU CALL A ROLL CALLER VOTE? ABSOLUTELY.
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AYE.AYE, THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A THREE TWO VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON AUGUST 1ST, 2023 WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IS THERE ANY OTHER AGENDA? WE DO HAVE THAT ONE ITEM OF OLD BUSINESS TO ESTABLISH THE DEFERRAL DATE
[8. Old Business]
SPECIAL MEETING.THAT'S HOW I LOOK AT YOU SECOND.
WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE WHOLE BUSINESS THAT THE UH,
[A. Establish deferral date for the Centerville Small Area Plan Public Hearing - Tuesday July 25, 2023 - 6:00 PM in Board Meeting Room 250 - Per June 15, 2023 Joint Work Session]
PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HOLD AT SUNNYVILLE SMALL AREA.PLAN PUBLIC HEARING ON JULY 25TH, 2023, SIX O'CLOCK IN THE BOARDROOM IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION.