Oct 05, 2023 Planning Commission Meeting 10-05-2023

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CALL THE OCTOBER MEETING OF THE GOON PLANNING COMMISSION'S ORDER.

[1. Call To Order]

YES, SIR.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A QUORUM.

EVERYONE, PLEASE RISE FOR THE P OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.

[2. Pledge of Allegiance]

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL OF LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

OUR DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, PLEASE GUIDE THIS COMMISSION

[3. Invocation - Led By Mr. Brewer]

PLEASE WATCH OVER OUR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, AND OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM THAT HELP MAKE OUR FREEDOM POSSIBLE.

IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN.

OKAY, EVERYONE RECEIVE A COPY OF THE MINUTES.

THE LAST MEETING.

[4. Approval of Minutes]

MOVE THE SECONDED ALL FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

A.

AYE.

OKAY.

WE'LL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR CITIZENS COMMENT PERIOD.

FOR ANYTHING NOT ON THE AGENDA,

[5. Citizen Comment Period]

HAS ANY REQUEST TO, UH,

[6. Requests to Defer, Additions, Deletions, or Changes to the Order of Public Hearings7. Public Hearing Items]

[7. Public Hearing Items]

[1. District 4 - CU-2023-00014 Application by Fred Gregory requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for a home-based business on 3.258 acres at 652 Seay Road on Tax Map No. 46-44-0-1-0. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED.

A TWO.

THE C U P IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15 1 12.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.

THANK YOU, MS. PARKER.

MEMBERS COMMISSION, UH, TOM COLEMAN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER.

UM, AS MS. PARKER SAID, THIS IS A CONDITION USE PERMIT FOR A HOME-BASED BUSINESS.

THIS IS SORT OF A CENTRAL LOCATED JUST, UH, SORT OF ALMOST HALFWAY BETWEEN CENTERVILLE AND OILVILLE VILLAGES NORTH OF I 64.

UM, LOOK AT THE AIR PHOTO.

YOU CAN SEE THIS IS OFF SEA ROAD.

THE HOUSE WAS RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED, SO IT ACTUALLY DOESN'T EVEN SHOW UP ON OUR AREA PHOTOS YET.

, UM, IT'S ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILES, SORT OF NORTHWEST OF CENTERVILLE VILLAGE.

SUBJECT PROPERTY IN ALL THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES IS OWNED AGRICULTURALLY, AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE DESIGNATED AS A RULE ENHANCEMENT AREA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UM, IT'S ABOUT A THREE AND A QUARTER ACRE PARCEL.

THE EXISTING HOUSE I SAID WAS RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED.

IT'S ABOUT 2,700 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

UM, THE BUSINESS WILL BE CONDUCTED FROM AN ACCESSORY BUILDING, AND THE APPLICANT IS, UH, HAS, UH, HE, HE MAKES POTTERY AND HE HAS A GALLERY THERE WHERE HE WANTS TO SELL THE POTTERY ON SITE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, DOES NOT REQUIRE A USE PERMIT TO MAKE THE POTTERY.

DOESN'T REQUIRE USE, UH, USE PERMIT TO TAKE THE POTTERY TO CRAFT SHOWS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT DOES REQUIRE A USE PERMIT TO HAVE THE RETAIL GALLERY ON THE SITE AND TO HAVE CUSTOMERS COME TO THE SITE.

SO THAT'S WHAT N NECESSITATED THE CONDITIONAL USE.

UM, CAN THE REQUEST FOR THE CONDITION USE PERMIT? UM, THE HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, WILL BE LIMITED TO 11 TO FIVE ON FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AND BY APPOINTMENT AND APPLICANT INDICATED HIS APPLICATION HE'D EXPECT MAYBE TWO OR THREE CUSTOMERS PER WEEK.

UM, THIS IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE ROLE ENHANCEMENT, UH, DESIGNATION OF LAND PLANNING WAS.

WE STILL SUPPORT STRATEGIES TO SUPPORT, SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS OPERATIONS IN THE ROLE ENHANCEMENT AREAS.

UM, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING IN AUGUST.

THERE WERE THREE ATTENDEES, AND AT THAT MEETING, ATTENDEES EXPRESSED THERE'S THEIR, UH, DID, DID NOT EXPRESS ANY CONCERNS AT THAT TIME.

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UH, THE SECOND ONE, UM, IF HE'S REQUIRED TO HAVE A P O D, UM, HE WOULD HAVE TO GET HIS P O D, HIS BILL PERMIT.

UM, ALL THOSE THINGS APPROVED BEFORE WE COULD GO INTO OPERATION.

UM, THE HOURS OF OPERATION I MENTIONED EARLIER, IT'S 11 TO FIVE FRIDAY THROUGH SUNDAY AND BY APPOINTMENT.

UM, AND THIS, UH, CONDITION NUMBER FOUR DOES LIMIT THE, THE, THE ACTIVITIES OR THE ACCESSORY USE TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.

UM, THE FIFTH ONE WOULD REQUIRE THAT ANY PARKING FOR THE USE BE ON SITE.

UM, NUMBER SIX WOULD LIMIT THE SIZE OF THE SIGN.

UM, THIS WOULD BE RECOMMENDED FOR FIVE YEAR APPROVAL.

AND THE LAST CONDITION IS OUR STANDARD CONDITION, UH, REGARDING THE TRANSFER OR LEASE OF THE PROPERTY.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

SO THIS IS NOT AN ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE.

THIS IS ALL CONTAINED WITH THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.

UM, NO.

HE HAS TWO STRUCTURES ALREADY.

THEY'RE THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED.

SO THIS WOULD BE UTILIZING A PART OF THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE STRICTLY FOR THE SELLING ON THE WEEKEND.

THAT'S JUST THE HOURS THAT THE, THE CUSTOMERS COULD COME TO THE SITE THAT THE GALLERY COULD BE OPEN FOR THE RETAIL SALES.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? I KNOW EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES, SO I DON'T WANNA DO TOO MUCH.

TOM ASKED ME IF I HAD A PRESENTATION AND, AND I REALLY DON'T.

SO, UH, I'M FRED GREGORY.

I'M 74 YEARS OLD.

UH, THIS IS MY 51ST YEAR MAKING POTS.

SO, UM, IT JUST, I JUST LUCKED INTO IT.

UM, AND I, I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.

SO WE MOVED TO VIRGINIA, UH, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO FROM WISCONSIN.

UM, I HAVE A DAUGHTER AND A SON-IN-LAW AND TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS HERE.

SO, UH, YOU CAN GUESS WHY I'M HERE.

AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER DAUGHTER IN NORTH CAROLINA, SO THEY ALL KIND OF MOVE SOUTH.

SO WE'RE SOUTH AND WE'RE SURE HAPPY WE DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE 860 MILES EVERY TIME WE WANT TO SEE 'EM.

, UM, THE LIKE OF SNOW THAT BOB, UM, I DIDN'T MIND THE SNOW, BUT MY WIFE DIDN'T CARE FOR IT THAT MUCH.

I HAD A TRACTOR WITH A HEATED CALF OH, WITH A BLOWER IN THE FRONT.

SO, UH, THE FIRST THING I'LL SHOW YOU THIS IS MY FIRST GRANDDAUGHTER , 18 MONTHS OLD.

SHE'S PASSING AROUND MAKING HER FIRST POTS.

SO, UH, NOW SHE'S SEVEN YEARS OLD AND HER SISTER LILY IS FOUR YEARS OLD.

AND THEY'RE BOTH MAKING POTS.

THAT'S GREAT.

AND THURSDAY NIGHTS, WHICH NOT TONIGHT, BUT THURSDAY NIGHTS, UH, MY SON-IN-LAW USUALLY COMES OVER IF HE HAS TIME.

AND I'M TEACHING HIM HOW TO MAKE POTS.

WOW.

IS HE, UH, TRYING TO BRIBE THE BOARD CHILDREN? YEAH.

SO, UH, AND IT'S, UM, MY WIFE WOULD ALWAYS GET MAD AT ME WHEN PEOPLE WOULD COME INTO THE SHOP.

AND I WOULD SAY, I JUST FEEL LIKE I'M JUST STARTING TO LEARN HOW TO DO THIS, YOU KNOW, AFTER 50 YEARS.

AND IT'S TRUE.

BUT NOW WITH MY SON-IN-LAW COMING, I'M STARTING TO REALIZE HOW MUCH I KNOW, AND IT FEELS GOOD TO BE PASSING THAT KNOWLEDGE ONTO SOMEBODY.

SO, AND WE REALLY LOVE HIM.

SO, UH, WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS, UH, UH, GREAT SON-IN-LAW, TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS.

AND I, I MAKE FUNCTIONAL POTTERY THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, SIMPLY WHAT I MAKE.

AND, UH, HERE'S A BEER STEIN.

YOU COULD PUT, UH, LEMONADE OR ICE TEA IN THERE TOO.

IT'S FOOD, DISHWASHER, MICROWAVE SAFE.

I BROUGHT A COUPLE PASTA JUST TO SHOW PEOPLE IT HAVEN'T BEEN HERE.

JOHN WAS OUT AT THE HOUSE.

I PUT 'EM IN THIS BOX, WHICH IS A BOX THAT CLAY COMES IN.

PART OF THE REASON I PUT IT IN THERE, AS YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT SAYS ON THE END OF THE BOX, NON-TOXIC.

MM-HMM.

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SO I DON'T USE ANY TOXIC MATERIALS.

UM, MY HOUSE IS BUILT ON THIS CLAY.

THIS IS THE CLAY THAT, THAT'S ON OUR LOT.

I TOOK SOME OF IT, A SHOVEL FULL, I SLATED IT DOWN THE WATER, UH, SIED IT THROUGH A SIEVE AND I FIRED IT 1900 OR 1700 DEGREES.

THAT'S THE CLAY THAT GLAND IS BUILT ON.

YEP.

YEP.

IT'S A PURE EARTHENWARE CLAY.

UM, YOU CAN ADD THAT TO A STONEWARE CLAY, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU MAKE POTS OUTTA EARTHENWARE CLAY, EARTHENWARE IS POROUS.

SO, UH, I MAKE STONE WEAR POTS.

THEY DON'T NEED A GLAZED, THE WHOLE WATER, BUT, UH, THE GLAZE IS THERE FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, CLEANABILITY SURE.

AND FOR AESTHETICS.

COOL.

SO I JUST MAKE SIMPLE THINGS.

THAT DINNER PLATE.

OH, NICE.

I DON'T KNOW, JUST, I, LIKE I TELL MY WIFE, I FEEL LIKE I'M JUST STARTING TO LEARN.

SO, UH, AND, UH, UM, I'VE MADE OVER 60,000 POTS IN MY LIFE.

I'M ON A PART-TIME BASIS.

MM-HMM.

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SO I WAS AN ENGINEER AND I WORKED AS I COULD MAKING POTS.

AND I JUST, I JUST LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.

AND, UH, IF I MAKE THESE POTS WELL, I GOTTA FIND SOMETHING TO DO WITH 'EM.

AND, UH, SO I, I SELL 'EM.

I DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY DOING IT, BUT I, I LOVE TALKING TO THE CUSTOMERS.

AND, UH, IT'S, UH, I JUST FEEL EXTREMELY FORTUNATE TO HAVE FOUND SOMETHING I LOVE TO DO.

THE LAST, UH, 20 YEARS OR SO, PRETTY MUCH FULL TIME NOW,

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AND, UH, I JUST LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT IT AND SIMPLE STUFF.

MR. GREGORY, WHAT'S THE NAME OF YOUR BUSINESS? PARDON ME? WHAT'S THE NAME OF YOUR BUSINESS? GLAND? POTTERY.

L L C.

OKAY.

UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO TELL YOU.

I JUST, I HOPE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY ONLY MAKE ABOUT 500 POTS A YEAR NOW, WHICH IS ONLY, WELL, THAT'S LIKE 10 BOTS A WEEK.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, SO WHEN SOME OF 'EM ARE LITTLE, UM, THEY GO HOT, AM I TAKING TOO MUCH TIME? SO YOU HAVE ALL THE TIME YOU WANT.

THESE ARE, THIS IS LIKE A LITTLE SET OF BOWLS.

MM-HMM.

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I USED TO MAKE THESE, WHEN OUR FRIENDS HAD KIDS AND THEY HAD A BABY.

WE'D GIVE 'EM A SET OF LITTLE BOWLS, YOU KNOW, .

NOW WHEN OUR DAUGHTER'S FRIENDS HAVE, UH, KIDS, I MAKE 'EM A LITTLE SET OF BOWLS FOR THE BABY.

AND, UH, I DON'T CHARGE 'EM FOR THAT.

COOL.

SO, THANK YOU A LITTLE.

AND, UM, I LOVE THE HISTORY OF CERAMICS.

UH, I LOVE THE TECHNICAL PART OF IT BEING AN ENGINEER.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S IT.

AND I'M HOPING I COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST, UH, ON A LIMITED BASIS SELL SOME OF MY POTS THERE.

OUR NEIGHBORS ARE ALL REAL NICE.

WE BUILT A HOUSE OUT IN A RURAL AREA, SO, UH, IT WOULDN'T BOTHER ANYBODY.

AND, UM, I DON'T WANNA TAKE TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.

YOU GOT FAMILIES TO GO TO HOME TO, I ASSUME YOU AGREE WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS TO THE CUP.

PARDON ME? I ASSUME YOU AGREE TO ALL THE CONDITIONS AND THE CUP? YES.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

THANK YOU.

NOPE.

YOU HAVE YOUR PHOTOGRAPH THERE.

OH, AS WELL.

THAT'S JUNI JUNIPER, ROSE AND I, I DID HAVE A PRESENTATION THEY ACTUALLY DUG OUT FROM A LONG TIME AGO.

, I'M NOT GONNA BOTHER YOU WITH THAT, BUT I USED TO GO AROUND AND DO DEMONSTRATIONS AT CHURCHES AND AT HIGH SCHOOLS AND THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS IN WISCONSIN.

AND, UH, I DO THAT FOR FREE IN THE LIBRARY AND I WOULD DO IT HERE.

I'M GONNA CALL UP GLAND HIGH SCHOOL AND SEE IF OUR TEACHER WOULD LIKE TO BRING SOME STUDENTS OUT TO TOUR THE SHOP, OR IF I COULD GO IN THERE AND DO A DEMONSTRATION FOR 'EM.

AND I DID A DEMONSTRATION AT THE GRADE SCHOOL SEVERAL TIMES AROUND OUR OLD HOUSE IN WISCONSIN.

AND, UH, I TOLD THE KIDS, I GO, YOU KNOW, I'D REALLY LOVE TO DO THIS AS GOOD AS THE SECOND JOB.

THERE'S NO BENEFITS.

, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, UH, HEALTH INSURANCE.

YOU DON'T GET ANY VACATION.

AND THEN THE TEACHER WOULD SEND BACK, YOU KNOW, THE NOTES THAT THE KIDS WROTE AND ONE OF THE KIDS WROTE, WELL, I WANT TO HAVE, BE, MAKE POTTERY, BUT I'LL DO IT AS A SECOND JOB.

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THANK, THANK YOU.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

IS THAT ENOUGH? YEAH, THAT'S GOOD.

PLENTY.

ALRIGHT, WELL THAT OPENED IT UP.

UH, PUBLIC.

ANY COMMENTS FROM ANYBODY? ANY QUESTION? YOU DIDN'T SEE MY GRANDDAUGHTER 18 MONTHS OLD.

THE FIRST POT QUESTIONS? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.

I'LL, I'LL, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, OKAY.

I WILL, UH, GRAB MY SHEET HERE.

THANK YOU.

SORRY.

UM, I DUNNO.

HE SAID, I GO BACK.

I MOVE.

IF I CAN LEAVE, YOUR HONOR, I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OF CU 20 23 0 0 0 1 4 FOR HOME BASED BUSINESS AT 6 5 2 SEA ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.

A SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.

THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON NOVEMBER 1ST, 2023, WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

OUR NEXT ITEM IS IN DISTRICT FIVE, CU 20 23 12.

APPLICATION BY K P B REALTY,

[2. District 5 - CU-2023-00012 Application by KPB Realty LLC requesting amendment to conditional use permit (CUP) CU-1994-00007 to allow automobile repair (with major repair under cover) on 3.647 acres at 480 Hylton Road on Tax Map No. 64-7-0-B-1T. The property is zoned Business, General (B-1) and Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Secs. 15-242 and 15-112. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Commercial and Single-Family Residential, Medium Density.]

THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BUSINESS GENERAL B ONE AND AGRICULTURAL LIMITED A TWO.

THE C U P IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15,000 2 42 AND 15,112.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS COMMERCIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.

AGAIN, THANK YOU MR. PARKER.

AGAIN, TOM COLEMAN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER, AS MR. PARKER SAID, THIS IS A CONDITIONS PERMIT

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UM, THE, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS BOTH B ONE AND A TWO ZONINGS ON IT.

UM, BOTH OF THOSE DISTRICTS WOULD ALLOW AUTOMOBILE REPAIR WITH APPROVAL OF C U P, AND THAT'S THE APPLICATION YOU HAVE FOR YOU.

UH, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE FAR SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.

UM, LOOKING AT THE ARROW PHOTO, UH, THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE FRONTAGE ON PATTERSON AVENUE.

UM, HOPE CHURCH IS REALLY THE PREDOMINANT LAND USE, UH, TO THE WEST.

AND THERE ARE THREE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE SOUTH THAT WOULD INCLUDE RIVERGATE AND WEST OAK, WHICH ARE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND BLAIR STATES, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UM, LOOKING AT THE ZONING, UM, THE, THE, THE, ABOUT THE FRONT HALF OF THIS PROPERTY, AND I DO HAVE SOME SLIDES WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO INTO THE ZONING AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, A LITTLE MORE DETAIL LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

SO I'M JUST GONNA GO OVER IT QUICKLY HERE.

UM, THE FRONT HALF OF THE PROPERTY IS ZONED COMMERCIALLY, AND THAT DOES SHARE SOME, UH, THAT COMMERCIAL ZONING WITH SOME OF THE BUSINESSES THAT FRONT ON PATTERSON AVENUE.

THE HOPE CHURCH PROPERTY, WHICH IT SHOWS UP AS GREEN HERE, IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL.

AND THE KIND OF THE, THE ORANGE, THE, THE BROWN AND THE, THE PALE YELLOW REFLECT KIND OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH.

AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DOES INCLUDE TWO LAND USE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD INCLUDE COMMERCIAL ALONG THE PATERSON AVENUE FRONTAGE, UM, AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY, WHICH IT SHARES WITH THOSE PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST.

AND THE HOPE CHURCH PROPERTY, AGAIN, IS RECOMMENDED FOR SAMMY PUBLIC IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

UH, THE SITE DOES FEATURE, UH, AN EXISTING 10,000 SQUARE FOOT SORT OF COMMERCIAL FLEX BUILDING AND A COMMUNICATION TOWER.

UM, THIS IS TECHNICALLY AN AMENDMENT OF THE TOWER APPLICATION THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED IN 1994.

AND THEY ARE REQUESTING TO AMEND THE C U P CONDITIONS THAT WERE APPROVED FOR THE TOWER.

THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE TOWER STRUCTURE OF THE LEASE AREA WITH THIS APPLICATION.

UM, AND THEY'RE ALSO SEEKING TO, UH, C U P APPROVAL, UM, FOR AN AUTOMOBILE REPAIR.

AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE RENOVATING AN EXISTING BUILDING ON THE SITE AND CONSTRUCTING A NEW BUILDING.

I MEAN, SURELY WANT TO KIND OF DIG INTO THE ZONING A LITTLE BIT MORE.

UM, 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED.

DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TWO DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS ON IT, ABOUT THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY, THE ZONE COMMERCIAL.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S SORT OF SIMILAR TO OTHER COMMERCIAL USES THAT, THAT FRONT ON, UM, PATERSON AVENUE, UM, ABOUT THE, THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURALLY.

BOTH ZONING DISTRICTS REQUIRE A C U P FOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR THAT ALLOWS US TO COME FORWARD UNDER ONE APPLICATION.

UH, THE EXISTING BUILDING IS MOSTLY IN THE B ONE DISTRICT AND GENERALLY, UM, IT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO ANY B ONE USES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT, SUCH AS A RESTAURANT OR CONVENIENCE CENTER, ET CETERA.

UM, AND IT DOES NEED A C E P APPROVAL FOR AUTO REPAIR.

UM, THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY IS OWNED AGRICULTURALLY.

UM, THEY, UM, WITH APPROVAL OF THE C U P, IT WOULD ONLY ALLOW THE AUTO REPAIR USE AND ANY OTHER USES THAT MIGHT BE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT AND OUR CULTURAL DISTRICT, WHICH WOULD BE LIKE RESIDENTIAL AND AGRICULTURAL TYPE USES.

UM, AND OF COURSE ALSO THE EXISTING TOWER.

THE TOWER IS ALLOWED WITH A C U P PRETTY MUCH IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT AND ANY LAND DISPLAY DESIGNATION.

AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE, THE VERY FRONT OF THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS COMMERCIALLY THE BULK OF THE SITE.

MOST OF IT IS ACTUALLY IN THAT SINGLE FRAMER RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY DESIGNATION.

UM, AND AS IN THE AUDIBLE RE UM, REPAIR BUSINESS, IT'S CONSISTENT OBVIOUSLY WITH THE COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S GENERALLY NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SINGLE FRAMER RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY DESIGNATION.

AND AGAIN, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE TOWER, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPERLY REGULATED AS A C P USE IS GENERALLY ACCEPTABLE OR MAYBE ACCEPTABLE IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT OR ANY LAND USE DESIGNATION.

UM, JUST A PICTURE OF THE EXISTING BUILDING HAS BEEN, IT'S ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

UM, THERE'S BEEN A, A NUMBER OF COMMERCIAL USES CURRENTLY INCLUDES A PRESSURE WASH SALES, UM, BUT A LOT OF IT'S VACANT.

IT'S BEEN USED COMMERCIALLY FOR MANY YEARS.

UM, THERE'S NO AUTO BILL REPAIR THERE NOW, BUT IT WOULD REQUIRE THE C O P APPROVAL FOR THE AUTO REPAIR HILTON ROAD.

UM, IT'S ACTUALLY A, UM, IT PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE, THE EXISTING BUILDING AND TO THE TOWER, ESSENTIALLY A PRIVATE ROAD OR PRI PRIVATE ACCESS EASEMENT THAT REALLY TRAVERSES THE PROPERTY.

ITS VARIABLE WIDTH.

UM, AND IT'S ABOUT 1300 FEET IN LENGTH.

UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, IT PROVIDES ACCESS, UM, ALL THE WAY TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

JUST SORT OF A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, UM, OF THE SITE AND KIND OF SOME OF THE SURROUNDING USES.

UH, GIVE YOU AN IDEA HOW THIS AREA HAS DEVELOPED OVER TIME.

UH, THE TOWER AND THAT FLEX OFFICE EXISTING BUILDING ON SITE, UH, WERE APPROVED IN 1994.

IN 1995.

UM, THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SURROUND IT RIVERGATE WAS REZONED IN

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AND BLAIR STATES IN 2021, UM, HOPE CHURCH GOT THEIR C U P APPROVAL IN 2006.

UM, AND THERE IS A A C U P ON THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH FOR AUTO SALES THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2021.

SO I GUESS ONE TAKEAWAY FROM THIS IS THAT THE STRUCTURES OF THE BUILDING AND THE TOWER REALLY WERE HERE BEFORE A LOT OF THE OTHER USES DEVELOPED OVER TIME.

AND AGAIN, UM, GET INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE SPECIFICS OF THIS APPLICATION.

UM, THEY'RE LOOKING TO AMEND THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE APPROVED FOR THE TOWER, AND THEY'RE WANTING TO ADD THE AUTO REPAIR, UH, USE.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE 1994 C U P, UM, THAT INCLUDED A, UM, LET'S SEE.

THERE'S ONE CONDITION THAT HAS TO BE APPROVED, UH, TO ALLOW THIS TO PROCEED.

UM, AND THAT WOULD BE, UH, THERE WAS A, A CONDITION THAT THAT LIMITED THE USE OF THE PROPERTY TO THE TOWER ONLY.

SO UNDER THE CURRENT C E P, THERE IS A CONDITION THAT SAYS THAT THE TOWER USE CAN BE THE ONLY USE ON THE PROPERTY THAT DOES HAVE TO BE DELETED FOR THE APPLICATION TO BE APPROVED TO, TO CONTINUE.

UM, WE'RE ADDING A CONDITION ABOUT THE VEGETATED BUFFER, UM, THAT REALLY WOULD REQUIRE THAT THE VEGETATED BUFFER BE LEFT INTACT, AND THAT ANY TREES THAT WOULD BE REMOVED WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE AS A PART OF A LAND USE PLAN.

THE IDEA THERE IS A TRIBE TO MAINTAIN, UM, ACCEPT WHAT IS NEEDED FOR AND WHAT'S GONNA BE ADDED RELATED TO THE, THE AUTO REPAIR USE TO KEEP THE, UH, THE BUFFER, ESPECIALLY TO THE RESIDENTIAL ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES INTACT.

AND THIS IS JUST A SITE PLAN, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA.

THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED IN, UH, 1995, I BELIEVE, FOR THE, THE 94 C E P.

AND IT DOES SHOW THE TOWER AT THE, SORT OF THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

AND IT KIND OF SHOWS WHERE THE, UH, EXISTING BUILDING WAS.

AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.

THOSE ARE REALLY DEVELOPED AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME.

SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO MAKE A NUMBER CHANGES TO THE SITE, AND THAT WOULD BE TO INCLUDE RENOVATE THE EXISTING BUILDING TO OPERATE THE AUTO REPAIR, UM, TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING.

AND I MENTIONED A LOT OF THESE.

I'M GONNA BRING UP THE EXCEPTIONAL PLAN IN A MOMENT.

A LOT OF THESE WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE EXCEPTIONAL PLAN.

UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A, A PARKING AREA FOR IN OPERABLE VEHICLES, WHICH WILL HAVE TO BE FULLY SCREENED.

THERE'LL BE LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND A SCREENING FENCE, UM, ADJACENT TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

THEY'RE ADDING AN EMERGENCY ACCESS FROM HOPE CHURCH.

I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT.

UM, THEY ALSO ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD A NEW BUILDING TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE AUTO REPAIR TYPE PIECES ON THE SITE.

AND AGAIN, LOOKING AT THE EXCEPTIONAL PLAN, UH, NOTE ON THERE, THERE IS A, THE EXISTING BUILDING, WHICH IS SORT OF THE GRAY.

UM, THERE'S THE DARK, DARKER BUILDING, WHICH WOULD BE THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING.

UM, IN BETWEEN THOSE BUILDINGS WOULD BE THE SCREENED PARKING AREA FOR INOPERABLE VEHICLES.

UM, ONE THING TO NOTE ON THERE, THERE'S BE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE PARKING, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE GRAY AREAS ON THE PLAN.

UM, THE TOWER, WHICH IS EXISTING, WHICH IS LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, THERE IS, UM, IT'S LO IT'S ENUMERATED AS NUMBER FOUR ON HERE, BUT THERE WOULD BE, AS PART OF A LANDSCAPE PLAN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND A SCREENING FENCE THERE.

UM, AND THEN IF YOU NOTE THERE, NUMBER ONE, THERE'S A PROPOSED EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT WOULD TIE INTO THE HOPE CHURCH PROPERTY.

BEAUTIFUL.

UM, THIS IS NOT PROFFERED, BUT THIS IS JUST, UH, INFORMATION THEY PROVIDED WITH THEIR APPLICATION.

AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF BUILDING THEY MIGHT BUILD.

UM, AND THAT'S JUST A PAINT BOOTH TO BE LOCATED IN THERE TO ALLOW, UM, UH, PAINT AUTO PAINTING, UM, AS A PART OF THE OPERATION.

I DO WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE FIRE RESCUE, UH, REQUIREMENTS.

UH, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO ACCESS.

UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE WOULD BE SEVERAL CHANGES THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO THE EXISTING BUILDING AND THE PROPOSED BUILDING AND THE SITE.

UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF FIRE SUPPRESSION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

UM, NOT NECESSARILY ALL OF THESE WOULD BE REQUIRED.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET APPROVALS FROM FIRE RESCUE AND BUILDING CODE WOULD BE SOME, SOME COMBINATION OF THE SPRINKLE SYSTEMS, FIREWALLS, HORIZONTAL STAND PIPES, HYDRANTS, UM, THE WIDENING OF THE ACCESS ROAD.

YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET SOME COMBINATION OF THOSE.

BUT AS, AS IT RELATES TO SPECIFICALLY TO THE SECOND ACCESS, THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BY FIRE CODE WITHOUT THAT SECOND ENTRANCE.

SO THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT SECOND ENTRANCE TO HAVE THAT SECOND BUILDING.

UM, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE C P CONDITIONS THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BUILDING, THAT SECOND BUILDING, IS CONDITIONED UPON GETTING THAT SECOND ACCESS AND THAT SECOND ACCESS, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FULL ACCESS.

IT COULD BE EMERGENCY ACCESS.

THAT WOULD INCLUDE HAVING CHAINED ON EACH SIDE.

UM, IT COULD BE PAVERS OR GRAVEL.

AGAIN, THAT ACCESS WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY, BY THE FIRE RESCUE AND BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

UM, JUST A LITTLE MORE SUPPLEMENT INFORMATION, UM, SORT OF ADDED ON HERE BASED ON THEIR PLANS, APPROXIMATELY WHERE THE NEW BUILDING WOULD BE.

JUST

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UH, THE CLOSEST, CLOSEST DWELLINGS ARE IN WEST OAK, WHICH ARE ABOUT 200, 210 FEET AWAY.

UM, THE CLOSEST DWELLING IN RIVERGATE IS ABOUT 620 FEET AWAY.

AND YOU KINDA SEE ON HERE, BLAIR ROAD, THE BLAIR STATE, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, IS CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT.

AND I DO BELIEVE THOSE HOMES BEING CONSTRUCTED IN THERE, BUT NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN COMPLETE YET.

MR. COLEMAN? YES.

WHAT'S THE HEIGHT ON THAT CELL TOWER? I'M SORRY.

WHAT'S THE HEIGHT ON THE EXISTING CELL TOWER? THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER, IT WAS APPROVED FOR UP TO 199 FEET.

UM, I SEEM TO RECALL IT'S ABOUT 190 FEET, I THINK.

UM, BUT THAT PROBABLY EXCLUDES THE, THE TOWER.

SO IT'S ABOUT 199 FEET.

PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT.

UM, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD AT HOPE CHURCH IN JULY.

UM, THERE WERE ABOUT 20 ATTENDEES INCLUDING, UH, SUPERVISOR PETERSON.

UM, THE ATTENDEES RAISED A NUMBER OF CONCERNS, HAD A NUMBER OF QUICHE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THE PROPOSED OPERATIONS AND THE COMPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT NOISE AND ODOR, UM, FROM THE PAINT REPAIR OPERATIONS.

UM, THE CONCERN ABOUT THE LARGE TRUCKS TRAVELING, UH, ONTO THE PROPERTY, ON AND OFF THE PROPERTY.

QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION TOWER, UH, THE STORAGE AND THE NUMBER, UH, AND OPERA VEHICLES THAT BE STORED ON SITE OUTSIDE STORAGE OF ANYTHING.

TIRE STORAGE, UM, MAINTAINING BUFFERS AND LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, FIRE ACCESS AND FIRE RESCUE SAFETY ONTO AND OFF THE SITE.

UM, THE AESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING, UM, SOMEONE LIKE THE OSHA AND OTHER KIND OF SAFETY REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE, UM, INVOLVED WITH, UH, UH, AUTO REPAIR TYPE USE AND THE PROVISION OF, UH, PUBLIC UTILITIES TO THE SITE.

SUBSEQUENT TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING STAFF HAS RECEIVED TWO COMMUNICATIONS, UH, AND OPPOSITION TO THEIR REQUEST.

UM, NOW AS I MOVE INTO THE CONDITIONS, UM, THE FIRST SET HAVE TO DO WITH THE COMMUNICATION TOWER.

UM, I'LL GO OVER SOME OF THOSE, ESPECIALLY THE CHANGES.

AND THEN THE SECOND SET WOULD BE RELATED TO THE PROPOSED, UM, AUTO REPAIR USE.

BUT THE, THE FIRST ONE'S JUST AN UPDATE.

UM, WE DO HAVE A STANDARD CONDITION THAT WOULD ALLOW THE COMMUNICATION TOWER TO OPERATE ON THE SITE.

NUMBER TWO, WE KIND OF DELETED THE BUFFER REVERENCE THERE, BUT WE ADDED NUMBER THREE, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE, UM, ALLOW SOME MORE SPECIFICITY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE, THE, THEY'D HAVE TO LEAVE THE EXISTING VEGETATED BUFFER INTACT.

UM, BUT ANY TREES THAT WERE REMOVED WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED AND APPROVED AS A PART OF A LANDSCAPE PLAN SO THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF ALLY LOOK AT ANYTHING THAT'S BEING REMOVED, ANYTHING THAT'S BEING REPLACED TO TRY TO MAINTAIN THE, THE INTEGRITY OF THE BUFFER.

UH, NUMBER FOUR, WE ADDED ONE THAT SAYS IT CANNOT BE LIT.

UM, FIVE, SIX, AND SEVEN.

AGAIN, THOSE ARE JUST CARRIED FORWARD FROM THE PREVIOUS APPROVAL.

A, UM, EIGHT, UM, AND NINE ARE BEING CARRIED FORWARD.

YOU'LL SEE, UM, THE, THE ONE THAT IT STRUCK OUT, THAT'S REALLY, THAT'S THE KEY ONE, IS THAT SEAT, BECAUSE REMOVING THAT ONE, THE ONE THAT STATES THE PROPERTY SHALL BE USED ONLY AS A TOWER SITE.

UM, THAT ONE WOULD HAVE TO BE DELETED FOR THE, UH, FOR ANOTHER USE TO BE APPROVED ON THE SITE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE AUTO REPAIR USE.

NOW, AS WE MOVE INTO THESE CONDITIONS, THESE ARE ALL RELATED TO THE AUTO REPAIR.

THE FIRST ONE WOULD ALLOW THE AUTO REPAIR USE.

UM, AND IT WOULD EXCLUDE THE LARGER COMMERCIAL SIZE, UM, TRUCKS ESPECIALLY.

UM, THE SECOND ONE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO OBTAIN ALL THEIR APPROVALS.

THAT INCLUDES BILL PERMIT, UH, P O D APPROVALS, BILL PERMIT APPROVALS, STORM WATER PERMITS, AND SO FORTH BEFORE THEY STARTED OPERATING THE USE.

THE THIRD ONE WOULD, UH, TIE THEM INTO THAT EXCEPTION PLAN THAT I SHOWED YOU EARLIER.

AND THAT SORT OF THE, THE, THE FIRST BULLET THERE.

UM, THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW BUILDING DESIGNATED AS THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING ON ACCEPTABLE PLAN, YOU KNOW, SHALL NOT BE APPROVED UNTIL A SECOND POINT OF ACCESS IS APPROVED BY FIRE RESCUE.

AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, NUMBER FOUR, WOULD REQUIRE ALL REPAIR ACTIVITIES TO TAKE PLACE INDOORS.

UH, NUMBER FIVE WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO COMPLY WITH ALL COUNTY, STATE, AND FEDERAL LAWS, YOU KNOW, PERIOD.

BUT THAT ESPECIALLY IS RELATED TO THE DISPOSAL OF THE LUBRICANTS, THE GASOLINE, THE BATTERIES, ANTIFREEZE, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, THE SECOND ONE WILL PROHIBIT ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE OF ANY PARTS OR, UM, PRODUCTS.

UH, NUMBER SEVEN WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO STORE THEIR INOPERATIVE VEHICLES WITHIN THAT, UM, FULLY SCREENED AREA THAT WAS BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.

AND NUMBER EIGHT WOULD REQUIRE SORT OF RELATED TO ANY, ANY AUTOMOBILES THAT ARE BEING STORED OR WAITING REPAIR WOULD NEED TO BE SCREENED FROM PUBLIC ROADS AND ADJOINING PROPERTIES.

NUMBER NINE WOULD REQUIRE, UM, ANY LIGHTING, UH, TO BE APPROVED AS ANY, EXCUSE ME, ANY OUTDOOR LIGHTING TO BE APPROVED AS PART OF LIGHTING PLAN.

UH, NUMBER 10, THE HOURS OF OPERATION.

UH, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THEY ONLY WANNA

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UM, AND THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY VEHICLE REPAIR ON SATURDAY OR SUNDAY.

UM, THIS COMES BEFORE YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A FIVE YEAR APPROVAL.

AND THAT LAST CONDITION IS OUR STANDARD CONDITION, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE TRANSFER RELEASE OF THE PROPERTY.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

UM, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE YOU HAD OF THE, UH, SETBACKS THAT SHOWED THE SUB DEVELOPMENT TO THE WEST OF IT, I GUESS? YEAH.

THAT SUB DEVELOPMENT THERE WITH THE, UH, LOT SHOWN IN PURPLE.

HAS THAT ALREADY BEEN RECORDED DEED? IT IS THE, UH, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE ONES THAT ARE DASHED IN THERE? YES.

YEAH, I GUESS LIKE THESE RIGHT HERE? YEAH.

YEAH.

ALL THOSE, THEY'RE RECORDED.

THAT SUBDIVISION HAS BEEN PLATTED UHHUH AND THEY'RE, THEY HAVE DON PERMITS APPROVED IN THERE, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OF THE HOMES HAVE BEEN COMPLETE YET.

THEY, THEY'RE KIND OF UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BACKYARD UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

RIGHT.

WELL, THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING LOOKS LIKE IT'S RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE.

MM-HMM.

, THERE'S NO SETBACK.

UM, I MEAN, THAT WAS JUST, I, I PUT THAT GRAPHIC ON THERE.

THE MINIMUM SETBACKS 20 FEET.

SO THE BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 20 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

I, AND THIS IS PATTERSON ROAD ON THIS, THIS IN THE FRONT HERE.

PAT PATTERSON AVENUE WOULD BE OFF THE PAGE TO THE TOP OF THIS, UM, TO THIS OH, THIS WAY.

OKAY.

TO NORTH.

AND THE SECONDARY ACCESS ROAD THAT YOU SHOWED ON THE DRAWING COMES OFF AN EXISTING PAVED ROAD.

CORRECT.

UM, LOOKING AT THIS ONE, UH, DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION BEHIND YOU, UM, HOPE CHURCH.

HOPE CHURCH HAS THEIR OWN INTERNAL ACCESS, UHHUH, AND THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF ENTRANCES ONTO PATERSON AVENUE.

SO IT WOULD BE COMING OFF OF THE, UH, HOPE CHURCH ACCESS, SO THAT HOPE CHURCH APPROVE THAT HOPE CHURCH WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

AND I CAN DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT ANY COMMUNICATIONS THEY'VE HAD WITH HOPE CHURCH.

BUT WE WOULD REQUIRE SOME, AN, YOU KNOW, HOPE CHURCH WOULD HAVE TO BE PARTY TO ANY KIND OF MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT OR CROSS ACCESS AGREEMENT AS A PART OF THEIR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.

BUT RIGHT NOW THEY HAVEN'T AGREED TO IT.

RIGHT.

WELL, I WOULD DEFER TO THE APPLICANT TO SEE WHETHER THEY'VE AGREED TO IT OR NOT, HOW THEY'VE AGREED TO IT.

SO THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TRAFFIC COMING OFF OF PATTERSON THROUGH THE HOPE HOPE CHURCH PROPERTY.

IT WOULD ONLY, IT WOULD ONLY BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS.

AH, GOT IT.

SO IT WOULD BE, AS THEY'VE INDICATED, IT WOULD BE CHAINED ON BOTH SIDES.

OKAY.

AND IT COULD BE PAVERS OR SOMETHING, BUT IT WOULD BE MOST LIKELY BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO THERE, THERE WOULD NOT BE DAILY TRAFFIC REVERSING THAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, MR. ROCK, CHARLIE, THE, SO THE EXISTING BUILDING, THE, THE SETBACK FROM THE, I GUESS THE NORTHERNMOST LOT IN BLAIR ESTATES COURT IS, I COULD SAY IT'S CLOSER THAN THE LOT AT THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC IN BLAIR ESTATES COURT TO THE NEW PROPOSED BUILDING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

GREAT.

ALRIGHT.

YOU ASK THE STAFF.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? LEMME DO THIS.

YEAH, LET'S GO TO THE CONCEPT.

YEAH, GO TO THE CONCEPTUAL.

GREAT.

UM, FRIENDS, THANK YOU, TOM.

THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK, UH, BEHIND THE SCENES AND THANK YOU THE COMMISSION FOR ENTERTAINING THIS.

I'M RETHINKING MY ENTIRE PRESENTATION BECAUSE I DID NOT BRING PICTURES OF, UH, MY GRANDDAUGHTER .

UH, I DON'T HAVE ONE.

UM, I BROUGHT JIMMY AS A PROP AND, UH, AND HOPE CHURCH IS HERE WITH US, TOO.

UH, AND I HAVE SOME, UH, SOME PAINTING AND, UH, OTHER HANDOUTS THAT I'LL GIVE YOU IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.

BUT, UM, JUST WANNA SAY AGAIN, THANKS, UH, THANKS TO EVERYBODY AND, UH, THANKS ALSO TO, UH, THE NEIGHBORS WHO ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY MEETING.

UM, WE, UH, WE HAVE TAKEN THESE, UH, WE HAVE TAKEN THEIR CONCERNS INTO CONSIDERATION, BOTH IN OUR DESIGN AND, UH, AND IN OUR RESPONSES TONIGHT.

UM, JIMMY KONZ KONZ PAINT BODY, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, OH, I'M SORRY.

MY NAME'S GRANT HAYES.

I, UH, YOU, YOU MET ME BEFORE.

I USED TO WORK FOR THE CHURCH AND NOW I WORK, UH, WITH JIMMY.

CAN YOU GIVE YOUR ADDRESS, NAME, AND ADDRESS? UH, MY, YEAH.

GRANT HAYES.

MY ADDRESS, MY PHYSICAL HOME ADDRESS IS 3 5 0 1 MOSS SIDE AVENUE IN RICHMOND, VIRGINIA.

2 3 2 2 2.

AND I'M JIMMY KONZ.

I LIVE AT 42 0 4 WORCESTER ROAD.

ENRICO 2 3 2 2 8.

SO, UH, YEAH, WHAT WE WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU IS JUST, UH, THAT WE, UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THE MODEL FOR THE BUSINESS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE, UH, IS, UM,

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UM, IT'S A UNIQUE PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY AS TOM SHOWED THE COMMERCIAL IN THE FRONT AND THE AG IN THE BACK, UH, THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER USE FOR THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT, UH, THAT, UH, IT, IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF COMMERCIAL VALUE, UH, CERTAINLY TO JIMMY WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY OTHER THAN TO OPERATE HIS BUSINESS ON IT.

UM, THE GOOD THING IS, IS THAT THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS IS VERY PUBLIC FACING AND PUBLIC SERVING.

AND SO THEREFORE, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD ALIGNMENT FOR, UM, THESE TRANSITION SPACES THAT EXIST BETWEEN, UH, COMMERCIAL ZONES AND RESIDENTIAL ZONES.

THEY CAN BE VERY CHALLENGING AND TRICKY EVERYWHERE.

UH, SO, UH, YOU CERTAINLY WANT TO HAVE A, UH, A BUSINESS IN THERE THAT OPERATES REALLY, UM, AT THE BEHEST OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO, UH, WE THINK THAT THERE'S A, A GOOD ALIGNMENT TO THAT.

MM-HMM.

, UM, JIMMY UTILIZES CUTTING EDGE OPERATING SYSTEMS, UH, IN HIS BUSINESS, UH, STANDARDS THAT MITIGATE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORS.

UH, WE'LL PROBABLY HEAR, UH, MORE ABOUT THIS, BUT I WANTED TO SHARE, UM, SPECIFICALLY, AND IF YOU APOLOGIZE FOR MY READING, I'VE GOT SOME PRETTY TECHNICAL, UH, NOTES IN HERE THAT I WANTED TO SHARE.

UM, SPECIFICALLY THE THINGS THAT WE WERE TRYING TO, UH, ADDRESS, UM, PUBLICLY WERE, UH, THE NOISE.

SO ALL EQUIPMENT, MOTORS, PUMPS, AND SO ON ARE CONTAINED WITHIN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE.

UH, THE LOUDEST RATED PIECES OF EQUIPMENT EMPLOYED ARE DUAL 10 HORSEPOWER MOTORS FOR THE PAINT BOOTH ENCLOSED WITHIN AN INSULATED CABINET.

AND THEY MEASURE ABOUT 74 DECIBELS FOR COMPARISON.

A RESIDENTIAL SHOP VAC MEASURES AT 86 DECIBELS.

THE ROTARY SCREW TYPE AIR COMPRESSORS EMPLOYED PRODUCE EVEN LESS, ONLY 68 DECIBELS.

AND ALL OF THIS ACTIVITY TAKES PLACE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IN AN INSULATED BUILDING, UH, REGARDING THE SMELL.

UM, AND, UH, IF YOU'LL PERMIT ME TO SHARE A FEW OF THESE THINGS, UM, AND SO IF I CAN SPEAK UP, WHY GRANT'S DOING THAT? I HAD THAT HEAD OF THE H O A FROM ONE OF THE SUBDIVISIONS AND I GUESS THE, UH, VICE PRESIDENT COME DOWN AND WE WERE CARRYING ON A CONVERSATION BESIDE THE COMPRESSORS I HAD, AND BOTH MY PAINT BOOTH WERE RUNNING.

AND THEY'RE LIKE, YOU CAN TURN 'EM ON NOW, MR. KONZ.

AND I'M LIKE, THEY'RE ON.

LIKE, I CAN'T SHUT DOWN WORKING PEOPLE FOR US TO SHOW OFF.

SO THEY'RE RUNNING RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE TALKING, CARRYING ON A CONVERSATION AND WE USE, UM, THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT, I KNOW GRANT'S GONNA TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THAT 'CAUSE HE'S BETTER TALKING THAN I AM.

UM, THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT PAINT FUMES.

AND WE, THIS IS IN 1970, WE USED WATER-BASED PAINT.

I TOOK 'EM IN THE MIXING ROOM AND I ASKED THEM, I SAID, DO YOU, AND THIS MIXING ROOM'S VERY CONTAINED, IT'S LIKE SIX BY EIGHT.

AND I ASKED THEM, I SAID, DO YOU SMELL ANYTHING IN HERE? AND THEY DID NOT.

IT'S WATER BASED, CAN'T DRINK IT.

BUT IT'S MADE OUT OF NATURAL PIGMENTS AND WATER.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE USED TO PUT ON CARS NOWADAYS.

SO THE DAYS OF, UH, SOLVENTS AND TOXIC FUMES ARE 20 YEARS BEHIND US.

SO I LET GRANT TAKE OVER .

SO, UH, NOT MUCH TO ADD TO THAT.

UM, YEAH, SOLVENT BASE PAINTS ARE A THING OF THE PAST.

UH, MODERN PAINT APPLICATION UTILIZES WATERBORNE.

UM, THEY'RE ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFER, PRODUCE LESS OD ODOR, IMPROVED AIR QUALITY.

UM, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, PAINTING TAKES PLACE COMPLETELY INSIDE OF AN ENCLOSED BOOTH INSIDE OF AN ENCLOSED BUILDING.

UM, AND, UH, WE EMPLOY STATE-OF-THE-ART DOWNDRAFT HEATED SPRAY WITH A DUAL INTAKE AND EXHAUST FILTRATION SYSTEM, G F SS WAVE FILTERS WITH A 99.94% PARTICLE REMOVAL EFFICIENCY.

I HAD TO WRITE ALL THAT DOWN.

I APOLOGIZE.

IT'S ALL IN THE INFORMATION THAT I'VE SENT TO YOU.

UM, SO ALL OF OUR TECHNOLOGY AND OPERATED, UH, OPERATING SYSTEMS COMPLY WITH, UH, OSHA, NATIONAL FIRE PROTECTION ASSOCIATION, UH, UNDERWRITER LABORATORIES AND E P A.

UM, THE THIRD POINT THAT WE WANTED TO COVER WAS VISIBILITY.

UH, AND AS YOU CAN TELL, WE'VE OFFERED A PLAN, UH, THAT VERY MUCH CONSIDERS OUR VISUAL IMPACT FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

UM, TALL FENCING, LANDSCAPE ADDITIONS, PAVED ROADS, SCREENED AREAS FOR VEHICLES, AND DISREPAIR, UH, TIRES AND FLUIDS ALL HOUSED INSIDE OF THE BUILDING, UM, BOTH IN PRACTICE AND, UH, CONDITIONED, UM, TO US.

SO, UM, AGAIN, GIVEN THE COMPLEXITY OF THE AREA, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RESTRICTED ALSO ON ALL SIDES.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE THAT, UH, ISN'T GONNA BE DONE BY THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZING THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY BLEND THAT HAPPENS IN THAT, UH, VERY TIGHT CORRIDOR, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PLEASED TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR BUSINESS THAT WE THINK, UH, DOES A VERY GOOD JOB OF SERVING.

UH, BOTH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, THE, THE,

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UM, BEHIND ME IS KELLY PIUS.

UH, SHE IS WITH HOPE CHURCH.

UH, SHE ACTUALLY REPLACED ME AT HOPE CHURCH A FEW MONTHS AGO.

UH, HOPE CHURCH HAS AGREED VERBALLY, UM, PENDING, UH, PENDING P U D.

THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE FENCE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.

THEY WANNA WEIGH IN ON THE GATE AND THE ACCESS AND, UH, AND ALL OF THAT, WHICH OF COURSE, UH, THEY WILL.

UM, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

MITCHELL BODE, UH, AT BOONE HOMES, UH, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING, UH, ISN'T HERE TONIGHT, BUT HE'S ALSO BEEN, UH, BEEN IN SUPPORT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE DOING.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FENCE BUILT, UH, BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND HIS PROPERTY.

UH, THERE'S A WATER LINE, UH, EXCUSE ME, A SEWER EASEMENT, UH, THAT RUNS, UH, FROM, FROM OUR PROPERTY ONTO HIS PROPERTY.

AND SO WE'VE, UH, ACCOUNTED FOR THAT WITH THE GATE ACCESS.

THERE'S ALSO A WATER EASEMENT AS WELL, UM, TO SUPPORT HIS NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR BUILDINGS, AND EVENTUALLY MAKE A LOOP.

UM, I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

YEAH.

TO, SO JUST TO THE NORTH OF THE LODGE BUILDING IS THE END OF, UM, OF THE WATER LINE, THE PUBLIC WATER LINE THAT HOPE BROUGHT FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE ALL THE WAY AROUND TO THE LODGE IN 2016 WHEN WE BUILT THE LODGE.

UH, IT'S CURRENTLY PARKED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO ASK US TO, TO GRANT AN EASEMENT TO TAKE IT OVER.

SO THE PLAN WOULD BE THAT WE CARRY IT, UH, FROM HOPE CHURCH'S ROAD OVER INTO, UH, THE K P B PROPERTY AND THEN LOOP IT BACK OVER TO PATTERSON AVENUE, WHICH IS, UM, SOMETHING THE DEPARTMENT OF UTILITIES HAS ASKED US TO CONSIDER.

IT'S NOT A DEAD END.

SAY AGAIN? IT'S NOT A DEAD END.

UH, IT, IT DEAD ENDS AT HOPE, BUT IT CAN, IT CAN LOOP BACK AROUND NOW, NOW THAT WATER'S COME ALL THE WAY UP PATTERSON AVENUE, IT CAN LOOP.