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UH, IT'S MY PLEASURE AND HONOR TO CALL TO ORDER THE TUESDAY, OCTOBER 3RD, 4:00 PM UH, MEETING OF THE UCHIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
WE'LL START OUR MEETING, AS WE ALWAYS DO WITH AN INVOCATION, AND WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE PASTOR DAVE NELSON FROM
[II. Invocation]
SMYRNA BAPTIST, AND FOLLOWING THAT, UH, VICE CHAIR VOS WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.OUR FATHER, GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THEIR PRIORITY TO BEGIN WITH PRAYER.
WE'RE NOT UNAWARE, LORD, THAT THESE DAYS ARE DAYS WHEN STANDARDS THAT HAD BEEN ACCEPTED DOWN THROUGH THE AGES HAVE BEEN TOSSED TO THE WIND.
BUT WE ARE ONE GROUP HERE THAT DOES NOT WISH TO DO THAT.
THEREFORE, WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD GRANT WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING FOR THESE WHO WORK IN HERE, UH, TO MAKE PLANS AND TO BE ABLE TO RESOLVE ANY ISSUES THAT ARISE.
HELP THIS TIME TO BE ONE WHERE DECISIONS ARE MADE EQUITABLY FOR THE PEOPLE, FOR FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES TO PROSPER.
[III. Pledge of Allegiance]
LIVES TO THE FLAG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS TO NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.DURING MY FIRST CAMPAIGN, I HAD THE, THE PLEASURE OF STANDING IN FRONT OF SMEAR IN A CHURCH WITH MY SIGN SEVERAL MORNINGS, UH, AS THE SUN CAME UP.
AND IT'S PROBABLY THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SPOT AT GUCCI COUNTY, BUT IT IS.
I AM BIASED 'CAUSE IT IS MY DISTRICT.
[IV. Proclamation Recognizing October 2023 as Domestic Violence Awareness Month]
ALL RIGHT.UH, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING OCTOBER, UH, OF 2023 AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.
[5833: Proclamation Recognizing October 2023 as Domestic Violence Awareness Month]
WHEREAS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A PATTERN OF ABUSIVE AND COERCIVE BEHAVIORS USED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL INTENDED TO EXERT POWER AND CONTROL OVER ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL IN THE CONTEXT OF AN INTIMATE OR FAMILY RELATIONSHIP.AND WHEREAS ABUSIVE BEHAVIORS MAY INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO PHYSICAL ASSAULTS, VERBAL ASSAULTS, THREATS, INTIMIDATION, EMOTIONAL ABUSE, USE OF WEAPONS, DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY, VIOLENCE TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE OR PETS, SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND CONTROL OVER ECONOMIC RESOURCES.
AND WHEREAS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS AN INTOLERABLE VIOLENT CRIME WITH PUBLIC HEALTH IMPLICATIONS FOR EVERY PERSON IN GLAND COUNTY, WHETHER A VICTIM SURVIVOR, A FAMILY MEMBER, SIGNIFICANT OTHER NEIGHBOR, EMPLOYER, OR COWORKER OF A VICTIM SURVIVOR.
AND WHEREAS NO ONE PERSON, ORGANIZATION, AGENCY, OR COMMUNITY CAN ELIMINATE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ON THEIR OWN, WE MUST WORK TOGETHER TO EDUCATE OUR ENTIRE POPULATION ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PREVENT SUCH VIOLENCE, SUPPORT VICTIMS, SURVIVORS, AND THEIR FAMILIES, AND INCREASED SUPPORT FOR AGENCIES PROVIDING SERVICES TO THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND WHEREAS GLAND CARES, A COMPREHENSIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAM PROVIDED 118 SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN 2022 BY PROVIDING 24 HOUR HOTLINE SERVICES, FACILITATING SAFETY PLANS, PROVIDING SHELTER SERVICES, OFFERING SUPPORT AND INFORMATION, PROVIDING CASE MANAGEMENT AND COUNSELING, ADVOCATING FOR VICTIM SURVIVORS SEEKING PROTECTIVE ORDERS, EMPOWERING SURVIVORS TO CHART THEIR OWN COURSE FOR HEALING AND FACILITATING EDUCATIONAL TRAININGS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS. AND WHEREAS ENDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN GLAND COUNTY INVOLVES ACTIVE COLLABORATION BETWEEN GLAND CARES GLAND, COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, GLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, GLAND VICTIM WITNESS PROGRAM, THE 16TH DISTRICT JUVENILE AND DOMESTIC RELATIONS COURT SERVICES UNIT, GLAND, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, AND OTHER REGIONAL PARTNERS.
NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS A MONTH IN GLAND COUNTY BOARD.
CAN I GET A MOTION? UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THIS
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RESOLUTION.ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
A OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES YOU VERY MUCH.
I AM THE CASE MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR WITH GLAND CARES.
I WAS THE SEXUAL DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UM, PROGRAM COORDINATOR.
WE NOW HAVE THOSE TWO ADVOCATE AND COORDINATOR POSITIONS OPEN.
WE'RE HIRING, SO IT'S TVO, WHO'S OUR EMERGENCY HOUSING COORDINATOR, AND MYSELF, WE'RE RUNNING THE PROGRAM AND SHE'S DOING A GREAT JOB,
SO, UM, I DID BRING SOME PURPLE TABLETS FOR WITH OUR HOTLINE NUMBER AND ALL OUR SERVICES, AND WE'RE JUST VERY THANKFUL.
TOLAND COUNTY, ALL OF OUR PARTNERS, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE COURTS, AND JUST EVERYONE WE'RE THANKFUL.
AND NOW WE HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE OFFICE.
I, I REMEMBER, UM, I WAS ON GLAND CARE'S BOARD WHEN, UM, SALLY PRESENTED THE BOARD WITH THE TAKING UP OF THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAM.
AND IT HAD ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON 12 SIGNIFICANT CAMPAIGNS OR PROJECTS.
WE JUST DIDN'T, UNDER THE BOARD, DIDN'T KNOW IF TAKING ON SOMETHING ADDITIONAL WAS GONNA BE WISE.
AND SHE, YOU KNOW, AS SALLY DOES, IS CONVINCE US.
AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, UM, THEY WERE OVERWHELMED AS SOON AS THEY STARTED, WHICH IS A TERRIBLE THING, AND YOU WOULDN'T THINK IT WOULD HAPPEN IN OUR COUNTY.
BUT, UH, IT WAS JUST, WE WERE JUST SO BLESSED TO HAVE, UH, RESOURCES LIKE THAT AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE.
[V. Chair's Comments]
COMMENTS.UH, JUST, UH, ONE REAL QUICK ONE TOMORROW EVENING AT SIX O'CLOCK.
[1. Wednesday, October 4th, 6PM Special Meeting of the Board of Supervisors on the Room 250, meeting is open to the public.]
ROOM, WE WILL HAVE OUR SPECIAL MEETING TO REVIEW THE CENTERVILLE SMALL AREA PLAN.AND THAT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ALSO.
UH, THIS BOARD HA DOES HAVE A, UM, UH, WE DO STRIVE FOR TRANSPARENCY IN ALL WE DO.
[2. September 5 Complaint of Violation of Code of Ethics]
AND, UH, LODGED A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE BOARD, AND I WOULD LIKE OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY TO TALK ABOUT, UM, HER FINDINGS REGARDING THAT COMPLAINT.MS. BE THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, AS THIS BOARD WELL KNOWS, AND ANYONE ELSE CAN READ ON THE, UH, DISPLAY ON THE BACK WALL THERE, THE BOARD'S CODE OF ETHICS ESTABLISHES A PROCESS FOR HANDLING OF ANY ETHICAL COMPLAINTS.
AND UNDER THAT PROCESS, AS COUNTY ATTORNEY, I AM CHARGED WITH REVIEWING THE COMPLAINT TO DETERMINE IF IT'S A VALID COMPLAINT.
AND THERE ARE TWO STEPS TO THAT.
VALIDITY UNDER THE PROCESS NEEDS TO BE FROM A GLAND RESIDENT AS WELL AS ALLEGED CONDUCT THAT COULD CONSTITUTE A VIOLATION OF THE CODE OF ETHICS OR THE STANDARDS OF CONDUCT.
SO I REVIEWED THE COMPLAINT, IT WAS MADE AGAINST FOUR BOARD MEMBERS AND CLAIMED A VIOLATION OF PARAGRAPH TWO OF THE CODE OF ETHICS.
AND THAT PARAGRAPH IS TO PUT LOYALTY TO THE HIGHEST MORAL PRINCIPLES AND TO THE COUNTY AS A WHOLE, ABOVE LOYALTY TO INDIVIDUALS, DISTRICT, OR PARTICULAR GROUPS.
THE COMPLAINT, UH, IDENTIFIED THREE TYPES OF CONDUCT ALLEGED TO BE A VIOLATION OF THAT ETHICAL REQUIREMENT, THE PERSONAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT TO THE CAMPAIGN OF A SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATE SUPPORTING THE GLAND COUNTY REPUBLICAN COMMITTEE REGARDING DONATIONS TO A SCHOOL BOARD CANDIDATE'S CAMPAIGN AND A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF A SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER.
AND THE THIRD CATEGORY WAS OTHER CAMPAIGN SUPPORT ACTIVITIES, WHICH SIMPLY INCLUDED SOME SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND A CAMPAIGN EVENT.
MY DETERMINATION IS THAT THERE IS NOT A VALID VIOLATION OF THE BOARD'S CODE OF ETHICS.
IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL PART OF OUR GOVERNMENT.
AT THE FEDERAL, LOCAL, AND STATE LEVEL.
THE PERSONS WHO ARE ELECTED CAMPAIGNING FOR OFFICE, MAYBE MEMBERS OF A POLITICAL PARTY, THEY CAN ACTIVELY SUPPORT THEIR POLITICAL PARTY AND OTHER CANDIDATES, BOTH FINANCIALLY AND THROUGH OTHER SUPPORT ACTIVITIES ACCORDINGLY, ELECTION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE ADOPTION OF THAT CODE OF ETHICS DOES NOT DEPRIVE THE BOARD'S OF SUPERVISORS, MEMBERS OF THEIR FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN THESE POLITICAL ACTIVITIES.
MY DETERMINATION OF INVALIDITY AND THESE REASONS WAS INCLUDED IN A MEMORANDUM THAT I SENT TO THE BOARD MEMBERS AND TO THE COMPLAINANT ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, UH, JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO.
AND UNDER THE PROCEDURES ESTABLISHED UNDER THE CODE OF ETHICS, NO FURTHER ACTION SHOULD BE TAKEN.
[VI. County Administrator's Comments]
COMMENTS.UH, NOW TIME FOR OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS THE BOARD, I
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JUST HAVE THREE ITEMS TO REMIND YOU OF.OCTOBER IS A GREAT MONTH, AND THE GREAT COUNTY OF OSELAND, UH, COMING UP.
HOWEVER, ON MONDAY THE NINTH, WE'LL BE CELEBRATING FEDERAL HOLIDAY COLUMBUS DAY.
SO COUNTY OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED, THE CONVENIENCE CENTERS WILL BE OPEN.
FIRE FEST IS COMING UP ON THE 14TH, WHICH IS A GREAT EVENT.
ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS TO COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE.
AND THEN A GREAT EVENT, ROIC, UH, FALL FESTIVAL WEEKEND WILL BE, UH, ON THE THIRD WEEKEND OF OCTOBER, SO BUSY MONTH.
ASK EVERYONE TO ENJOY THE THINGS THAT MAKE G IN SUCH AN AMAZING PLACE.
[VII. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the Order of Presentation]
TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS AND ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES IN THE ORDER OF PRESENTATION? OKAY, SEEING NONE, UH, WE WILL MOVE INTO THE CITIZEN COMMENT[VIII. Citizen Comment]
PERIOD.THIS IS A CHANCE FOR CITIZENS TO COME AND ADDRESS THE BOARD REGARD ISSUES REGARDING GUC AND COUNTY THAT ARE NOT ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.
SO, UM, IF YOU COULD COME, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
AND AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
GOOD AFTERNOON, LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD, MANNEQUIN, SABBATH, VIRGINIA.
UM, MEMBERS OF THE, UM, GOODLAND BOARD OF SUPERVISOR, MR. CARPENTER.
UM, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, I LIVE, UM, ON OFF OF MANNEQUIN ROAD.
THERE IS 10 COMMUNITIES THAT, UM, THAT ARE ALONG THERE.
WE ARE ALL HARDWORKING, UM, LOVING, UM, GREAT NEIGHBORS.
UM, AND RIGHT NOW WE ARE TRYING TO, UM, COME TO TERMS WITH THE CENTERVILLE SMALL AREA PLAN.
I AM THANKFUL THAT I JUST RECEIVED, UM, THE INFORMATION PACT, UM, OF OUR, OUR, UM, FEEDBACK.
I AM TREMENDOUSLY PROUD OF MY NEIGHBORS FOR GETTING STEPPING UP AND GETTING THE 225, UH, FORMS FILLED OUT.
IT WAS NOT AN EASY TASK FOR MOST OF THEM.
UH, MOST OF THEM ARE, UH, 65 PLUS AND DO NOT HAVE THE SKILLS TO, UM, TO GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
UM, I DO HOPE THAT WE WILL TAKE WHAT WE LEARNED FROM THIS PROCESS AND MOVE FORWARD.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN, T THE AMOUNT OF BAD VIBES OR NEGATIVITY, UM, IS PROBABLY, UH, MY HUSBAND WILL SAY I AM MORE OF A CHEERLEADER THAN, THAN A FIGHTER.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AND I LOVE EVERY ONE OF Y'ALL.
UM, IT'S AGAPE LOVE, OF COURSE.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, WE ALL NEED TO PUT OURSELVES IN THE PLACE OF A COMMUNITY WHO FEELS LIKE THEY'RE UNDER THE GUN AND THEIR BEING, THEIR WAY OF LIFE IS BEING, UM, CHALLENGED.
UM, AND UNDERSTAND WE ALL, MANY OF US HAVE MOVED TO GLAND BECAUSE WE LOVE THE RURAL CHARACTER.
UM, EVERY MORNING I GET UP AND THANK THE LORD FOR LIVING IN GLAND COUNTY.
YOU HEARD LOUD LAST MONTH FROM MY NEIGHBORS WHO, WHO CAME OUT TO, UH, SUPPORT ME.
UM, AND, UM, I, I'M JUST TREMENDOUSLY GRATEFUL TO, UM, FOR THIS REPORT BECAUSE FOR AM, UH, NUMBER ONE THROUGH NINE, UH, REPRESENTS THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD.
HOW Y'ALL DOING? I'M STILL MIKE SCH LIGA FIVE 80 VILLA PON TOE LANE OVER BY THE EDGE OF THE COUNTY.
AND, UH, I JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT SOME OF MY EXPERIENCES WORKING HARD FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
UM, NOT NECESSARILY YOU YOURSELVES, BUT, UM, AS I WILL MENTION, OKAY, YOU GUYS ADMINISTER, UM, CERTAIN ELECTION DECISIONS, INCLUDING DECISIONS FOR THE DAVE OWENS SLASH SUSANNA GIBSON ELECTION, WHERE YOU HAVE ONE SET OF REGULATIONS IN YOUR COUNTY, AND THE OTHER COUNTY HAS A DIFFERENT SET.
IN PARTICULAR, I GO DOOR TO DOOR KNOCKING, WHICH A LOT OF POLITICIANS DO WITH BOTH PARTIES, OKAY? BUT IT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO TELL PEOPLE WHO LIVE 20 MILES AWAY TO COME DOWN HERE AND EARLY VOTE.
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KNOW, I'VE KNOCKED ON MANY DOORS AND IT'S EXTREMELY RARE.SOMEBODY SAYS, OH YEAH, I'M GONNA MAKE THAT TRIP.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF I GO DO THE SAME ACTIVITY IN THE NEXT COUNTY, OKAY, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE EARLY VOTING SITES, OKAY? EVERYBODY UP THERE LIVES BASICALLY WITHIN FIVE MILES OF THE EARLY VOTING SITE.
AND IT'S, YEAH, A LOT EASIER TO TURN PEOPLE OUT THROUGH THAT METHOD.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, AND I'M GONNA POINT TO SOME NUMBERS FROM HANOVER COUNTY COURTHOUSE, PRECINCT 354, EARLY VOTING, VOTE, EARLY VOTERS FOR EVERY 10,000 VOTERS OR WHATEVER IT MAY HAVE BEEN, IF YOU GO TO THE EDGE OF THE COUNTY, OKAY, IT'S 100, OKAY? SO AGAIN, WHEN PEOPLE LIVE FURTHER AWAY, THEY'RE MUCH, MUCH LESS LIKELY TO EARLY VOTE 3.54 TO ONE IN THAT ONE PARTICULAR AREA.
AND AGAIN, I THINK YOU SEE THE SIMILAR NUMBERS HERE.
IF YOU LOOK AT 'EM, UM, CERTAINLY THERE ARE A LOT OF FACTORS COME INTO PLAY.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU LIVE OUT THERE IN DISTRICT ONE, YOU'RE FAR AWAY, BUT YOU HAVE TO COME TO GUC AND BASICALLY SHOP IF YOU'RE OVER BY SHORT PUMP.
MOST PEOPLE OVER IN SHORT PUMP AREA IN THE TUCKO AREA WHERE I LIVE OVER BY WEST CREEK, WE NEVER COME HERE EXCEPT FOR POLITICS, AT LEAST FOR ME, BECAUSE THERE'S NO REASON WE HAVE EVERY SERVICE WE CAN NEED OVER THERE.
BUT ALL ME, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I IMPLORE YOU TO HAVE AN EQUAL VOTING SYSTEM FOR ALL CANDIDATES IN, UM, BOTH SIDES OF THE COUNTY LINE.
I KNOW THAT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THE STATE LEGISLATOR SAID IT'S A FREE FOR ALL.
YOU CAN HAVE 20 EARLY VOTING SITES IN ONE COUNTY, ONE IN THE ONE NEXT TO YOU, AND YOU CAN'T MAKE IT EQUAL BECAUSE NOBODY'S EQUAL.
BUT I, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO WHAT YOU CAN TO MAKE IT EQUAL.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
JONATHAN LYLE, 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD, CHAIRMAN OF THE MONACAN SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, AND, UH, UCHIN FARM BUREAU DIRECTOR.
MY COMMENTS FROM MY OWN, UH, IT'S BEEN A BUSY MONTH FOR AGRICULTURE, UH, THIS PAST MONTH AND EVEN THE FIRST PART OF OCTOBER, UH, GOLAND FARM BUREAU HAD ITS ANNUAL DINNER ON THE 18TH, MR. CARPENTER JOINED US, LEFT WELL FED, HE HAD A SMILE.
SO, UH, WE APPRECIATE MR. CARPENTER, UH, SHOWING UP AND NOT JUST SHOWING UP, BUT ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING, UH, AT OUR MEETING.
UH, HAY GOTTWALD, WHO IS THE, UH, UH, PROPRIETOR OF HG MEATS, GAVE US A STATUS REPORT ON HIS NEW ACTIVITY, THE NEW AGRICULTURAL BUSINESS HE'S BRINGING TO THE COUNTY.
UH, I APPRECIATED MR. CARPENTER BEING THERE.
'CAUSE, UH, MS. SCOTT WAL SHARED SOME OF HIS EXPERIENCES AND WHAT HE WAS GOING THROUGH SO FAR AS PERMITTING AND, AND JUST WHAT HE NEEDED TO DO TO BRING A NEW BUSINESS TO GLAND.
SO, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, MR. CARPENTER WAS ILLUMINATED AS SOME OF US ALSO WE'RE ALSO, UH, HAVING, WE ALSO HAD MR. CHUCK METZKER FROM GREENSVILLE, UH, JOIN US, AND HE WAS INVITED TO SPEND A COUPLE MINUTES BRINGING US UP TO DATE ON WHAT GREEN SWELL IS DOING.
UH, THEY'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND, WHICH IS GREAT.
UH, THEY HAVE A CHALLENGE IN THAT EVERY WEEK THEY TURN OUT ABOUT 25,000 POUNDS OF PEAT ROOTS AND STEMS AS A BYPRODUCT.
AND, UH, I APPRECIATE THE COUNTY IS PARTICIPATING IN WORKING TO FIND A SOLUTION.
UH, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A MEETING HERE JUST LAST WEEK WITH NRCS, UH, WITH THE CTE FOLKS, AND PERHAPS, I'M NOT SURE, SOME OF THE FOLKS FROM COUNTY STAFF AS TO HOW WE CAN TAKE THAT BYPRODUCT AND MAYBE ACTUALLY MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT IS A REVENUE LINE ON HIS P AND L AND ALSO BENEFITS THE COUNTY.
UM, VIRGINIA STATE FAIR, JUST COMPLETED 10 DAY RUN.
UM, IT WAS, UH, UH, A REALLY GOOD YEAR.
WE DIDN'T HAVE AS MUCH RAIN AS TYPICALLY THE OLD SAYING IS, IF YOU WANT RAIN, HAVE THE STATE FAIR.
UH, WE HAD UP TO 50,000 PEOPLE PARTICIPATE THIS LAST SATURDAY.
SO, UH, AGRICULTURE IS SOMETHING ON THE HORIZON.
UH, I WILL MENTION THAT NICOLE SCHUMANN, WHO WAS RECENTLY ONE OF OUR, UH, AGRICULTURAL EXTENSION AGENTS, WAS ONE OF 15 SUPERSTAR CARDS.
NOT QUITE A POKEMON CARD, BUT, UH, IT SHOWED SOME OF THE SUPERSTARS OUT THERE IN THE AG COMMUNITY.
I WILL MAKE A SHAMELESS PLUG FOR FARM BUREAU MEMBERSHIP.
IF YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER, IT'S 40 BUCKS A YEAR, YOU SAVE 10 BUCKS ON YOUR TICKET TO THE STATE FAIR.
UM, MONICA CONSERVATION CONTINUES TO WORK WITH FOLKS.
WE HAVE ALREADY ABOUT $900,000 IN COST SHARE APPLICATIONS, BUT THAT MEANS WE STILL HAVE A MILLION LEFT.
SO WE'RE WORKING HARD TO SEE HOW WE MIGHT GET SOME OF THIS CASHIER MONEY OUT INTO THE AG COMMUNITY, BECAUSE AS THE TMDL AND THE BAY ACT, UH, ACTIVITIES LOOM CLOSER AND CLOSER, ALL OF THESE ACTIVITIES ARE GONNA HELP US COME IN COMPLIANCE.
UM, I'LL ALSO JUST FINISH UP BY MENTIONING LEE RANDOLPH, WHO WAS A CHEF AT DOVER HALL, IS UP FOR CHEF OF THE YEAR AWARDS WITH THE VIRGINIA, UH, VRTL VIRGINIA RESTAURANT LODGING TOURISM ASSOCIATION.
SO OCTOBER 10TH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE AWARDS.
UH, I KNOW THAT CHAD, CHAD HORNICK AND JEFF, UH, ANO ARE GONNA BE DOWN THERE JOINING ME AT THE DINNER.
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MAY HAVE CHEF OF THE YEAR RIGHT HERE IN GLAND COUNTY, AND I'LL COME BACK AT SIX AND TALK ABOUT WELL WATER TESTING.SO, THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? CAN.
I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT ABOUT THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THAT OCCURRED, UM, IN THE LAST MEETING, UM, IN SEPTEMBER.
YEAH, SEPTEMBER, THE SIX O'CLOCK MEETING WHEN WE WALKED IN, THERE WERE RULES POSTED ON THE WALL.
I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 23 YEARS AND NEVER HAVE I BEEN TO A MEETING OF THIS BOARD AND BOARDS BEFORE THIS WHERE THE RULES WERE POSTED ON THE WALL.
I I COMMENTED TO THE BOARD AT FOUR O'CLOCK AND AT QUARTER TO SIX WE GOT RULES UP.
SO SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE SHARED WAS THAT THIS IS PART OF YOU ALL'S MANUAL.
WELL, THE MANUAL THAT YOU HAVE, UM, EITHER YOU ARE USING IT OR YOU'RE NOT.
TODAY, WE DON'T HAVE RULES POSTED ON THE WALL LIKE WE DID.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN A NOTICE IF THERE WERE CHANGES IN THE RULES.
AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE I WAS HERE TILL FIVE O'CLOCK AND WE CAME AT QUARTER TO SIX.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE RULES MAY NOT HAVE CHANGED, BUT THEY HADN'T BEEN DISPLAYED BEFORE.
THE OTHER CONCERN IS THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE NERVOUS SPEAKING BEFORE THIS BOARD AND OTHER BOARDS LIKE YOU.
AND ONE OF THE RULES THAT, UM, BROUGHT A CONCERN FOR ME WAS THAT YOU'RE SAYING NO ONE CAN READ ANYONE ELSE'S STATEMENT.
AND I THINK THE CONCERN IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PROFICIENT IN ENGLISH.
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE DISABLED, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY NOT BE ABLE TO, UM, SPEAK AT ALL.
AND ARE WE TAKING THEIR FREEDOM AWAY FROM THEM TO COMMUNICATE WITH THIS BOARD? AND SO I JUST WANTED TO COME AND ASK FOR THAT ONE STATEMENT TO BE REVIEWED, IF THAT IS PART OF YOUR RULES, THAT YOU RETHINK THAT ONE BECAUSE THAT REMOVES PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO SHARE THEIR CONCERNS WITH YOU ALL.
AND, AND IT MAY BE THAT THEY NEED SOMEONE TO READ THEIR STATEMENT.
I THINK THE PRIMARY FUNCTION IS TO GET A STATEMENT TO YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER.
AND IF THEY DON'T HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE OF RULES THAT ARE SET, THEN WE NEED TO RETHINK THOSE RULES.
ANYONE ELSE FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE CITIZEN
[IX. Approval of Action Minutes]
COMMENT PERIOD.BOARD, UH, NEXT ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF OUR MINUTES FROM THE, UH, SEPTEMBER 5TH TRANSPORTATION WORK SESSION AND OUR REGULAR MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 5TH.
UH, THEY HAVE BEEN IN YOUR PACKET.
HOPEFULLY YOU'VE GOT A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM.
[1. Board of Supervisors - Transportation Work Session - Sep 5, 2023 2:00 PM]
ENTERTAIN A MOTION.[2. Board of Supervisors - Regular Meeting - Sep 5, 2023 4:00 PM]
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED BOTH SETS OF MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 5TH, 2023.ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
[X. Reports]
MOVE INTO OUR REPORTS.UM, OUR FIRST UP IS OUR PARTNERS AT VDOT, MR. WYNN,
[1. 5849: VDOT - September 2023]
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MARSHALL WYNN WITH VDOT.UM, I'M SURE Y'ALL GOT THE MAINTENANCE REPORT.
UH, DIDN'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.
I DO HAVE A COUPLE THINGS I DO WANNA BRING UP BEFORE YOU ASK ANY QUESTIONS.
WELL, AS LONG AS IT'S GOOD NEWS, A THIRD CYCLE OF PRIMARY MODE WILL START AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE GONNA CUT THE PRIMARIES ONE MORE TIME.
UH, WE'RE D DILIGENTLY, UH, WORKING ON OUR HIRED EQUIPMENT CONTRACTS.
HOPE TO HAVE ALL THOSE IN PLACE BY THE FIRST WEEK IN NOVEMBER FOR SNOW REMOVAL.
AND WE STARTING AT DRY RUNS FOR AIR EQUIPMENT, UH, NEXT WEEK.
SO WE'LL BE READY FOR SNOW WHEN IT COMES.
OTHER THAN THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE REPORT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
UM, I DID WANT TO THANK YOU FOR, WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL CITIZENS REACHING OUT ABOUT THE MOWING OF THE ROUNDABOUT AND KEEPING THAT BRAND NEW, UH, STRUCTURE LOOK GOOD AND, UH, WAS TAKEN CARE OF RIGHT AWAY AFTER I REACHED OUT TO YOU.
DO WE KNOW HOW LONG UNTIL IT'S, WE'LL, WE'RE WAITING ON THAT, UH, UH, DI AND THAT PIPE CROSSING TO BE DONE BY THE CONTRACT BEFORE THE CONSTRUCTION IS CLOSED.
AND ONCE THAT'S DONE, I, I, I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH AUSTIN EARLIER PRIOR TO THIS MEETING.
I'M GONNA REACH OUT TO OUR, UH, ERIC CONSTRUCTION ENGINEER TO SEE WHEN THAT MAY HAPPEN.
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WE'RE OSELAND IS CONCERNED AND THEY WANT TO ENTER INTO A PERMIT TO TAKE CARE OF THAT CIRCLE AND EVERYTHING RIGHT.TO BEAUTIFY IT AND THAT SORT OF THING.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT.
NEXT WE HAVE, UH, CHIEF, SEE CHIEF
[2. 5844: Fire Rescue Report - October]
FERGUSON FOR OUR FIRE AND RESCUE REPORT.THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, EDDIE FERGUSON, FIRE RESCUE CHIEF.
UM, CERTAINLY THE REPORT HAS, UH, BEEN PROVIDED AND IN YOUR PACKET, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, IF YOU WOULD ALLOW ME TO PLEASE.
UH, OCTOBER THE EIGHTH THROUGH THE 14TH IS NATIONAL FIRE PREVENTION WEEK.
UH, THIS YEAR'S THEME FOR NATIONAL FIRE PREVENTION WEEK IS COOKING SAFETY STARTS WITH YOU PAY ATTENTION TO FIRE PREVENTION.
ACCORDING TO NFPA, COOKING IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF, UH, HOME FIRES.
AND NEARLY HALF OF ALL HOME FIRES INVOLVE COOKING EQUIPMENT.
COOKING IS ALSO THE LEADING CAUSE OF, UH, HOME FIRE INJURIES.
AND UNATTENDED COOKING IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF HOME COOKING FIRES AND RELATED DEATHS.
AND A FEW THINGS THAT, UH, WE CAN LOOK AT TO DO TO PREVENT THOSE FIRES.
UH, IF YOU'RE COOKING SOMETHING THAT HAS A, UH, LONG COOKING TIME, THEN, UH, USE A TIMER SO THAT YOU DON'T FORGET WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE STOVE, UH, AND CLEAR THE COOKING AREA OF, UH, ANY TYPE OF, UH, COMBUSTIBLES.
ANYTHING THAT COULD BURN, SUCH AS DISH TOWELS, TOWELS, MITTS, OR PAPER TOWELS, ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE COMBUSTIBLE.
AND CERTAINLY, UH, TURN YOUR POT HANDLES SO THAT, UH, YOU DON'T RUN THE RISK OF, UH, BUMPING INTO THEM OR A SMALL CHILD, PULLING THEM OVER.
TURN 'EM TOWARDS THE BACK OF THE STOVE.
AND IF YOU DO HAVE A GREASE FIRE, JUST SIMPLY, UH, REMAIN CALM AND HAVE, UH, A LID THERE SO THAT YOU CAN JUST SLIDE IT OVER THE, THE PAN TO SNUFF THE, UH, THE FIRE WHILE IT'S STILL SMALL.
CREATING A KID SAFE IN A PET FREE ZONE AT LEAST THREE FEET AROUND ANY TYPE OF COOKING, UH, IS A GOOD PRACTICE.
UH, JUST TO KEEP, UH, EVERYONE SAFE, UH, YOU'LL SEE US, UH, OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, DURING THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, UH, PARTICULARLY DOING FIRE PUBLIC, UH, EDUCATION PROGRAMS. WE HAD A COUPLE, UH, ON THE CALENDARS TODAY AT SOME OF THE LOCAL SCHOOLS.
AND WE'LL, UH, DO OUR BEST TO EDUCATE, UH, THE PUBLIC ON FIRE SAFETY AND PROMOTE THE, UH, NFPAS THEME.
AND TO THAT POINT, UH, ON SATURDAY EVENING, OCTOBER THE 14TH, WE'RE HAVING OUR SECOND ANNUAL FIRE RESCUE SHOW.
AND THE BACK PARKING LOT OF GLAND HIGH SCHOOL STARTS AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND, UH, WE ADVERTISE IT FROM FIVE TO NINE, BUT HONESTLY, UH, IT'LL BE WELL DONE BY NINE O'CLOCK AND MAYBE, MAYBE, UH, WE'LL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, DONE A LITTLE BIT SOONER FOR THE PARENTS WHO HAVE SMALL CHILDREN WHO CAN COME OUT AND SEE THE SHOW.
THE FIRE RESCUE SHOW, UM, IS A, A LONGSTANDING TRADITION, UH, IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE BROUGHT BACK, UH, LAST YEAR.
AND THIS IS, WE'LL CALL IT OUR SECOND ANNUAL, ALTHOUGH WE HAD MANY OF THESE SHOWS BACK IN THE, UH, THE SEVENTIES AND AND EIGHTIES, UH, AND EARLY NINETIES.
UM, I'LL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS AN EVENING OF, UH, FAMILY FUN DEMONSTRATIONS, A CHANCE FOR FOLKS TO COME OUT, BRING THEIR CHILDREN, INTERACT WITH, UH, THE FIRE AND RESCUE PERSONNEL FOR, UH, DEMONSTRATIONS EXHIBITS.
WE'RE EXPECTING THE, UH, THE MEDFLIGHT ONE HELICOPTER TO LAND, UH, ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD AS WELL AS, UM, AT THE VERY END OF THE SHOW.
WE HAVE A VERY SMALL, UH, FIREWORKS, UH, SHOW FOR THE, FOR THE CROWD THERE IN ATTENDANCE.
UH, IT'S A GREAT WAY TO CELEBRATE FIRE PREVENTION, UH, WEEK AS WELL AS, UH, PROMOTE, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND ALL SORTS OF, UH, DISPLAYS THAT SUPPORT ALL TYPES OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION OF, UH, OF OUR, OF FIRE AND RESCUE MEMBERS.
UH, THE OTHER THING I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR ATTENDING OUR NINE 11 CEREMONIES THAT WERE, UH, HELD ON MONDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 11TH, UH, AS AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, UH, ANNOUNCEMENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE, IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT OR HEARD ABOUT IT, TOMORROW OCTOBER THE FOURTH AT TWO 20 IN THE AFTERNOON, THERE IS A NATIONAL, UH, IPOS EMERGENCY ALERT TEST.
AND THIS IS BASICALLY A TEST OF THE, UM, THAT GOES ACROSS THE CELL PHONES AND THE RADIO AND TELEVISION, UH, NATIONAL TEST OF THE INTEGRATED PUBLIC ALERT WARNING SYSTEM, UH, ABOUT 2:20 PM TOMORROW AFTERNOON.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THIS IS, UH, SEPARATE FROM GLAND'S, UH, CODE RED SYSTEM CITIZENS CAN SIGN UP FOR EMERGENCY ALERT MESSAGES FROM THE LOCALITY BY SIGNING UP FOR CODE RED.
BUT THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH FEMA AND THE FCC THAT COVERS, UH, CELL PHONES AND RADIO AND TELEVISION, UM, STATIONS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT SO FOLKS COULD BE EXPECTING IT.
UM, EVERY TIME WE SPEAK, WE ALWAYS, UM, MAKE MENTION THAT WE ARE ALWAYS OPEN FOR VOLUNTEER APPLICATIONS.
AND AS OF YESTERDAY, WE REOPENED OUR CAREER HIRING PROCESS TO ADDRESS, UH, THREE UNEXPECTED, UH, VACANCIES THAT HAVE OCCURRED SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.
UH, AND LAST CERTAINLY, BUT NOT LEAST, IF ANYONE NEEDS A, UH, FREE SMOKE ALARM,
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UH, WE ARE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THOSE.JUST GIVE US A CALL AT OUR OFFICE, (804) 556-5304 AND WE'LL SEND A CREW RIGHT OUT TO INSTALL IT.
OR IF THE CITIZEN WOULD LIKE TO PICK UP THE FREE SMOKE DETECTOR AND INSTALL IT THEMSELVES.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE REPORT THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET.
THE ONLY THING, CHIEF I, I'LL BRING UP FROM A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE LAST YEAR WITH THE FIRE PREVENTION, UM, WE HAD NOT USED OUR GAS FIREPLACE FOR QUITE A WHILE, RIGHT? AND, UM, GETTING IT LIT, WE HAD THE PILOT GOING, BUT WE COULD STILL SMELL GAS.
MM-HMM,
THOSE LINES CAN SOMETIMES GET BRITTLE AND THOSE COUPLINGS.
SO, UH, WE ENDED UP GETTING A, A DETECTOR AND ACTUALLY HAD THEM COME OUT AND FIX IT.
AND THAT'S A GREAT IDEA AND A GOOD THING THAT YOU JUST BROUGHT UP, IF YOU DO HAVE GAS APPLIANCES IN THE HOME, CERTAINLY, UH, IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE 'EM SERVICED ON A REGULAR BASIS.
HAVING A DETECTOR IN PLACE THAT WOULD DETECT, UH, LEVELS OF GAS, WHETHER IT BE PROPANE OR NATURAL GAS, UH, AS WELL AS CARBON MONOXIDE.
YOU KNOW, YOU, WHEN WE BURN FOSSIL FUELS AND CERTAINLY, UH, CARBON MONOXIDE IS A COALESCE OLU GAS THAT, UH, CAN BE VERY TOXIC.
UH, AND SO THAT I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.
UM, SOMETIMES WE RESPOND OUT TO, UH, HOMES FOR, UH, THE SMELL OF GAS AND IT COULD BE WHAT YOU DESCRIBED WHERE THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE FIREPLACE OR IN OTHER CASES, UH, SOMETIMES THE, THE PROPANE CYLINDER WILL BE EMPTY AND YOU'LL GET LOW LINE PRESSURE AND THAT WILL ACTUALLY GIVE YOU THE SMELL OF PROPANE.
AND PROPANE REALLY HAS NO SMELL OTHER THAN THE ME CAPIN THAT'S PUT INTO IT SO THAT YOU CAN SMELL IT.
UH, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT TO BE AWARE OF.
THANK YOU MR. SPOON, NOW FOR BRINGING THAT UP.
ALRIGHT CHIEF, THANKS FOR ALL YOU AND YOUR TEAM DO.
UH, CERTAINLY AN HONOR TO BE THE FIRE CHIEF AND BE A PART OF THE GREAT TEAM.
ALRIGHT, NEXT WE'RE GONNA HAVE OUR
[3. 5842: Introduction of New County Staff]
INTRODUCTION TO NEW COUNTY STAFF AND, UM, WE ARE GONNA HAVE A PITCH HITTER.I THINK MR. CARPENTER'S GONNA STEP IN FOR, UH, MS. SUTTON WHO'S STRUGGLING WITH HER VOICE WITH THE CHANGING OF THE SEASON.
SO, UH, MR. CARPENTER, UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, THIS MONTH.
UH, PLEASE ANNOUNCE WE HAVE EIGHT NEW HIRES THAT ARE GONNA BE INTRODUCING TO YOU.
UH, IF YOU'RE PRESIDENT OF THE ROOM, WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOU STANDING SO WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOU ON AUGUST 1ST.
BEN ELLIS JOINED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS PLANNER ONE.
UH, HE'LL BE PROVIDING PROFESSIONAL PLANNING SERVICES, LAND USE PLANNING, PRESERVATION PLANNING, ZONING, ADMINISTRATION, AND THE MONITORING REVIEW AND EVALUATION OF LAND USE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL DESIGNS.
MR. ELLIS HAS HELD POSITIONS AS A RESEARCH ASSISTANT, LAND USE PLANNER, AND MOST RECENTLY SERVED AS DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR ST.
WE HAVE WITH US A JOHN MICHAEL WHALEN JOINED THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON AUGUST 16TH AS PLANS REVIEWER.
HE'LL PERFORM TECHNICAL PLANNING DUTIES INVOLVING CONSIDERABLE PUBLIC CONTACT OFFICE RESEARCH, FIELD INVESTIGATION, AND REVIEWING OF APPLICATIONS AND PLANS.
MR. WHALEN COMES TO UCHIN COUNTY FROM LUVANA COUNTY, WHERE HE SERVED AS A PLANNER AND GIS TECHNICIAN, FIRE AND RESCUE.
WELCOME FIREFIGHTER RECRUIT BRIAN ADAMS ON SEPTEMBER THE FIRST AS A RECRUIT.
HE WILL LEARN THE BASIC TENANTS OF FIRE SUPPRESSION, EMERGENCY MEDICAL, AND OTHER EMERGENCY SERVICES WHILE ATTENDING THE FIRE TRAINING ACADEMY.
UPON SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF THE ACADEMY, HE'LL BE RECLASSIFIED TO FIREFIGHTER ALSO SEPTEMBER 1ST.
JAMES JONES JONES, THE IT DEPARTMENT AS THE GIS ANALYST.
IN THIS ROLE, HE'LL PERFORM TECHNICAL DUTIES IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE OF THE COUNTY'S GIS SYSTEM.
MR. JONES MOST RECENTLY WORKED FOR LEIDOS AS AGIS ANALYST LIDAR PROCESSOR.
ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, RYLAND DADDY JOINS PARK AND REC AS A GROUNDSKEEPER.
IN THIS ROLE, HE'LL MAINTAIN THE COUNTY'S PARKS AND PUBLIC SPACES.
HE MOST RECENTLY WORKED FOR BROOKDALE GOLF COURSE AS A GOLF COURSE SUPERINTENDENT KYLE WILLIS JOINED PARKS AND RECREATION AS A RECREATION COORDINATOR ON SEPTEMBER 18TH.
IN THIS POSITION, HE'LL COORDINATE THE DEVELOPMENT, IMPLEMENTATION, AND EVALUATION OF TARGETED DEPARTMENT PROGRAMMING AND MARKETING.
MR. WILLIS HAS HELD VARIOUS RECREATION POSITIONS SUCH AS A CERTIFIED THERAPEUTIC RECREATION SPECIALIST AND A HEALTH AND PE TEACHER.
JESSICA WHITE JOINED GENERAL SERVICES ON SEPTEMBER 18TH AS A CUSTODIAN, SHE'LL PROVIDE ROUTINE CARE, CLEANING AND SANITATION OF BUILDINGS AND GROUNDS.
MS. WHITE PREVIOUSLY WORKED FOR THE VA CORRECTIONAL CENTER FOR WOMEN AS A CORRECTIONAL OFFICER.
AS PART OF HER ROLE, SHE ENSURED THE FACILITY WAS CLEAN AND SANITIZED PROPERLY.
AND LASTLY, AS SEPTEMBER 27TH, ABIGAIL CORDOVA JOINED ANIMAL PROTECTION AS A PART-TIME SHELTER ATTENDANT.
SHE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THE CLEANLINESS OF FACILITIES, FEEDING AND MANAGING THE WELLBEING OF KENNEL ANIMALS.
SHE HAS PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH ANIMAL CARES AND AQUATIC SPECIALISTS AT PETCO.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, PLEASE JOIN US IN WELCOMING OUR NEW STAFF.
CONGRATULATIONS AND WELCOME TO THE FAMILY.
[4. 5835: Planning and Development Activity5. 5831: AP Report September 2023]
TWO REPORTS, UM, ARE IN FOR YOUR REVIEW FOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT[00:35:01]
ACTIVITY, AND THEN THE ACCOUNTS PAYABLE.UM, UP NEXT WE DO HAVE OUR OCTOBER 3RD BROADBAND REPORT.
[6. 5845: October 3rd Broadband Report]
GOOD AFTERNOON MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, PAUL DRUMRIGHT, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS MANAGER.SO, UH, THE OCTOBER 3RD BROADBAND REPORT IS IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, BUT THERE IS SOME, UH, HIGHLIGHTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE FROM SOME OF THAT INFORMATION.
AND THEN I ALSO HAVE A COUPLE, UH, PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT HAVE COME IN AFTER THE REPORT WAS SUBMITTED.
SO SOME NEW INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH YOU AS WELL.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS JUST TO UM, KIND OF REFRAME OR FRAME WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BROADBAND IS WE HAVE ONE MAJOR OR PROJECT WORK GOING ON RIGHT NOW WITH FIREFLY FIBER BROADBAND.
BUT THAT PROJECT HAS MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PHASES THROUGH MULTIPLE DIFFERENT, UH, FUNDING SOURCES AND USING MULTIPLE DIFFERENT, UH, UH, PARTNER PROVIDERS AND CONTRACTORS WORKING ON THAT.
SO THAT PROJECT MOVES AT DIFFERENT PHASES OR MOVING AT DIFFERENT SPEEDS.
AND SO IT IS A COMPLEX PROJECT FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
IT REALLY, IT LOOKS AS ONE BIG PROJECT, BUT THERE ARE THOSE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD.
UM, SOME OF THOSE THAT ARE, ARE MOVING FORWARD.
AND SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS THE HANOCK ELECTRIC COOPERATIVE SERVICE TERRITORY.
UM, THE AREA EAST OF OILVILLE, WHICH HAD BEEN, UH, THEY STARTED CONNECTIONS TO THAT IN A TOWN HALL BACK IN THE SPRING, THAT AREA AND IS NOW CONSIDERED TO BE IN SERVICE.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYBODY HAS BEEN CONNECTED YET.
THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE WAITING TO BE CONNECTED.
BUT IN, IN FIREFLY AND RAPPAHANNOCK ELECTRIC CO-OPS MINES, IT IS NOW A, UH, IN SERVICE AREA SO ANYBODY CAN CALL AND GET SERVICE THERE.
THE WEST PART OF, UH, OILVILLE, SO WEST OF OILVILLE UP TOWARDS THE GUM SPRINGING AREA THAT IS STILL SHOWING TO BE CONNECTED AS OF STARTING IN THE FALL OF 2023.
SO, UH, THEY HAVEN'T ANNOUNCED A TOWN HALL MEETING FOR THAT YET, BUT ONCE THEY DO, WE WILL SHOW THAT INFORMATION.
WE WILL HOST THAT JUST LIKE WE DID FOR THE OTHER TOWN HALL.
AND, UM, THEY CITIZENS CAN EXPECT TO START SEEING CONNECTIONS.
UH, AGAIN, I WOULD REMIND, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT SAYS CONNECTIONS STARTING AT A TIME, THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE TILL THEY GO THROUGH THEIR LIST OF EVERYBODY WHO SIGNED UP FOR INTEREST IN IT.
SO IF YOU'RE ON THAT LIST, YOU MAY NOT BE THE FIRST ONE TO GET IT.
BE PATIENT, THEY'RE COMING, THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE BODY, YOU KNOW, WHO SIGNED UP AND THEY'RE GONNA DO THOSE CONNECTIONS.
UM, MOVING ON TO OUR, UH, RISE PROJECT, WHICH IS WORKING WITH DOMINION ENERGY.
UM, IT HAD BEEN REPORTED IN THE REPORT IN THE PAST, SO THEY'VE WRAPPED UP THEIR MIDDLE MILE FIBER THAT DOMINION ENERGY'S BUILDING DOWN IN THE THREE SQUARE ROCK CASTLE ROAD AREA.
THEY'RE STILL WAITING ON TO DO THE FIBER SPLICING WITH FIREFLY ON THAT, BUT THEY'VE ALREADY MOVED UP AND STARTED DOING THE WORK UP IN THE HAYDENVILLE FIFE AREA, UM, AND DOING CONNECTIONS THERE IN, UH, SOME NEW INFORMATION.
AS OF SEPTEMBER 27TH, THEY'VE COMPLETED 13 MILES OF THE 28 MILES OF MIDDLE MILE FIBER IN THAT AREA.
THEY, UM, ARE EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETING THAT FIBER BUILD IN THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS.
AND SO THEN THEY WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SECTION, THE, THE, UH, THE COLUMBIA AREA, SO OF LOWER WESTERN GOOCHLAND.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA BE WRAPPING UP ON THE, THE CROZIER AREA, WHICH, UH, SPLITS BOTH CROZIER AS WELL AS THEN WEST OF THE COURTHOUSE AREA.
UM, THEY'RE PROJECTING, UH, TO FINISH ALL OF THEIR MIDDLE MILE FIBER BUILD BY THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2024.
THAT IS A SLIGHT CHANGE TO WHAT THEY HAD BEEN SHOOTING FOR, WHICH WAS THE END OF 2023.
BUT AS WE KNOW WITH A COMPLEX PROJECT, THINGS HAPPEN, IT TAKES A LOT MORE TIME ONCE YOU GET IN THERE AND START WORKING.
SO THEY'RE PROJECTING TO FINISH ALL THEIR MIDDLE WILD FIBER BUILD BY THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2024.
UM, SO THAT, UH, AS THEY WRAP UP THEIR FIBER BUILD, THEY START TO TURN IT OVER AND FIREFLY STARTS TO BUILD THEIR LAST MILE CONNECTIONS IN THOSE AREAS.
UM, SO THAT'S SOME NEW INFORMATION THERE.
THEY'VE COMPLETED, AGAIN UP IN THE HAYDENVILLE AREA, 13 OF 28 MILES OF FIBER.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE USDA RECONNECT AREA, UM, WE DO HAVE SOME UNFORTUNATE NEWS.
SO A COMMUNICATION DID GO OUT AND THIS IS SOME NEW INFORMATION.
A COMMUNICATION SH WENT OUT LAST WEEK AND SHOULD BE, UH, INDIVIDUALS IN THAT AREA SHOULD BE RECEIVING IT.
UM, IF YOU DON'T LET ME KNOW 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE.
UH, SO IF YOU HEAR OF SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T GET IT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO GET THAT, UM, THEY HAVE HAD TO PUSH THAT WHERE IT WAS PROJECTED A FALL 2023.
THEY'VE PUSHED IT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
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OF THOSE REASONS IS THEY'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK TO TRY TO FIND A FIBER HUTT LOCATION, UM, TO HELP FUND, UH, AS PART OF THAT PROJECT.AND SO RIGHT NOW THEY'RE SHOWING, UH, THEY SAY, UH, SUMMER 2024, UM, THAT WOULD PUT IT KIND OF IN LINE WITH A LOT OF THE OTHER PROJECTS.
SO A LOT OF THE OTHER PROJECTS ARE GONNA BE AROUND SOMETIME IN THE 2024 TERRITORY.
I WOULD REMIND, UM, FIREFLY, ACCORDING TO THEIR GRANT WITH THE STATE HAS TILL THE SUMMER OF 2025 TO WRAP UP ALL THE PROJECTS.
THEY'RE STILL RIGHT NOW ON TRACK TO BEAT THAT HERE IN UCHIN.
BUT SO THAT IF A CUSTOMER CALLS UP FIREFLY TODAY AND ASK WHAT'S THE STATUS OF A PROJECT? IF FIREFLY HASN'T PUT OUT A A IDENTIFIED TIMEFRAME, THEY'RE GONNA GET THAT ANSWER OF SUMMER 2025 NOT TO BE ALARMED UNTIL THEY PUT A TIMEFRAME, A, A MORE CONCRETE TIMEFRAME TO IT.
THAT'S THE ANSWER THAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE.
SO, UM, WE CONTINUE TO WORK WITH FIREFLY TO IDENTIFY LOCATIONS AND TO TRY TO FIND, UH, HELP THEM IN ANY WAY WE CAN TO LOCATE A FIBER HUTT EITHER ON THE COUNTY PROPERTY OR ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, AND SUPPORT THEM IN THAT EFFORT.
AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT BROADBAND IS A CRITICAL, IMPORTANT, UH, NEED FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND WE WANT EVERYBODY TO HAVE IT AS FAST AS THEY CAN HAVE IT.
WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, BOARD ANY QUESTIONS,
UM, SO THANK YOU MR. DRUMRIGHT.
UM, SO WHEN, UH, FIREFLY SENDS A LETTER TO, NOT TO AN INDIVIDUAL, BUT TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY, UH, IS THERE A WAY THAT THE COUNTY CAN BE NOTIFIED BECAUSE WHERE ARE THE FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA GET THE PHONE CALLS? SO IS THERE A WAY TO, UH, GET THEM TO JUST, YOU KNOW, IF IT EVEN CAME TO MR. CARPENTER AND THEN HE COULD DISSEMINATE IT OUT OR YOU OR WHATEVER, DOESN'T MATTER.
UM, CAN WE ARRANGE THAT? I, I'M GONNA TALK WITH MY PARTNERS AT FIREFLY.
THEY HAVE IN THE PAST THAT, UH, KEPT US IN THE LOOP ON STUFF THOUGH.
UM, THERE MAY BE, IN THIS CASE, A A RUSH TO GET IT OUT AND, AND THEY DIDN'T GET IT TO US.
UM, AND SO GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE REITERATE THAT WE'D LIKE TO KNOW SO THAT WE CAN, UH, AT LEAST BE AWARE EXACTLY, UM, AT, AT, AT THE, AT THE FOREFRONT.
SO, UM, I, I TRY TO ALSO AS CHECK ON THAT INFORMATION AND WHERE THEY NORMALLY WOULD POST IT AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK.
AND SO, UM, WE WILL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT, BUT ALSO WORK WITH THEM TO TRY TO GET A BETTER NOTIFICATION PROCESS GOING.
AND MR. CHAIR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I HAVE ANOTHER ONE OTHER QUESTION.
WELL, ACTUALLY ANOTHER QUESTION LIKE YOU JUST PASS ON TO FIREFLY.
THEY ARE WORKING, UH, NEAR MY AREA AND THE SUBCONTRACTOR, ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT FIREFLY, IT'S A SUBCONTRACTOR FOR DOMINION, UH, THAT'S DOING THE, UH, MIDDLE MILE.
THEY'RE SO RESPECTFUL OF, UM, PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, UH, LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING AT ALL TIMES.
SO IF YOU COULD PASS THAT ON TO FOLKS, I CERTAINLY WILL HURRY UP
THEY DO IT FASTER AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT, WANT TO HEAR, IS THAT WE WANT TO HEAR THAT THE, UH, CONTRACTORS THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE WORKING, BUT THEY'RE ALSO DOING IT IN A RESPECTFUL MANNER BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS THIS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T WANT MESS OR HAVE A LOT MORE HEADACHES COMING FROM THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
SO, UM, AND, AND THAT'S WHERE I WOULD SAY IF WE DO START TO HEAR THAT, I WANNA KNOW SO I CAN MAKE SURE WE PASS ON BOTH THE GOOD AND THE BAD TO OUR, UH, PROVIDER PARTNERS IN THIS WHOLE COMPLEX PROJECT.
AND, AND SO FAR EVERYBODY'S SO INTERESTED IN GETTING IT.
JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY COULD DO TOO MUCH WRONG AT THIS POINT, BUT, BUT THEY REALLY ARE DOING A GREAT JOB, SO THANK YOU.
ANYTHING ELSE? THANK YOU MR. DRUMRIGHT.
[7. Board Reports]
NOW WE ARE ON THE BOARD OF THE AGENDA.WE'RE, UM, HAPPY TO HEAR FROM ANY OF US THAT ARE SERVING ON OTHER BOARDS, ANYTHING.
TTPO WAS OFF, SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE A REPORT NEXT.
MR. WATERS, ANY PLANNER? UM, NOT TOO MUCH FROM CVTA.
WE'RE SORT OF MOVING INTO THE, UH, THE DOING OF THE, OF THE, OF THE WORK NOW.
SO IT'S, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH NORMALIZING.
ALTHOUGH I WILL SAY, AS I MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING, UH, MAYOR ESTONIA WAS, UH, IS CHAIR OF THE CBTA.
AND, UM, THERE SEEMS TO BE A, A SIGNIFICANT DESIRE IN ORDER TO BORROW MONEY FOR PROJECTS.
WE'VE BEEN PEGO SO FAR UP UNTIL NOW.
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THERE, THERE'S AN RFPI THINK THAT WE APPROVED TO GO OUT FOR, UM, BONDING GROUPS.UH, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SORT OF A, THERE'S TWO CAMPS.
ONE CAMP BELIEVES, YOU KNOW, IT'S PAY GOES MORE REASONABLE.
OTHERS ARE, HEY, TAKE FOR US TO GET THESE LARGER PROJECTS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BORROW SOME MONEY AND DO SOME BONDS.
SO, UH, THAT WILL WORK ITS WAY THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE BODY.
SO ANY THOUGHTS THE BOARD WOULD HAVE, PLEASE SHARE WITH ME AND AS WELL AS CITIZENS.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM THIS SIDE? ALL RIGHT.
[XI. Consent Agenda]
SOME STUFF TO TALK ABOUT? YES, I DO.WE'VE GOT 11 ITEMS TONIGHT, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, LET ME START.
[1. 5828: Authorization For County Administrator to execute a Memorandum of Understanding with Goochland Pet Lovers]
WITH AUTHORIZATION FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH OSELAND PET LOVERS.UH, THE MOU CALLS FOR REVIEW BY BOTH PARTIES EVERY TWO YEARS TO ALLOW FOR UPDATES OR ADDITION TO THE TERMS. THIS YEAR'S SLIGHT CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE MOU BY THE CHANGES ARE ACCEPTABLE TO THE SHELTER STAFF.
STAFF RECOMMENDS AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE THE NEW MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING, WHICH CONFIRMS AND MEMORIALIZE THE COUNTY'S RELATIONSHIP WITH GUCH AND PET LOVERS.
THE COUNTY ATTORNEY HAS APPROVED THE MOU AS THE LEGAL FORM ITEM 58 27 RESOLUTION SUPPORTING A TRANSPORTATION
[2. 5827: Resolution Supporting a Transportation Alternatives Application to the Virginia Department of Transportation for the Courthouse Village Sidewalk Project]
ALTERNATIVES APPLICATION TO VDOT FOR THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE SIDEWALK PROJECT.UH, THE SIDEWALK PROJECT WILL PROVIDE APPROXIMATELY 2,500 FEET OF SIDEWALK ALONG ROUTE SIX TO UCHIN COURTHOUSE.
THIS SIDEWALK WILL CONNECT REMAR DRIVE TO UCHIN CARES.
THIS PROJECT IS PHASE ONE OF A LARGER COURTHOUSE VILLAGE CONNECTIVITY GOAL.
THOSE LAID OUT IN THE RECENTLY ADOPTED COURTHOUSE VILLAGE SMALL AREA PLAN PORTION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE A PROJECT COST WITH THE STATE.
THE STATE WILL COMMIT TO A MAXIMUM OF 80% OF THE PROJECT WHILE LOCALITY MUST COMMIT THE OTHER 20%.
[3. 5825: Resolution Supporting a Revenue Sharing Application to the Virginia Department of Transportation for the I-64 at Oilville Road (Rte. 617) Interchange Project]
RESOLUTION SUPPORTING A REVENUE SHARING APPLICATION TO VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION FOR THE I 64 AT OILVILLE INTERCHANGE PROJECT.NOW THIS PROJECT WILL PROVIDE MUCH NEEDED RELIEF TO CONGESTION AT THE WESTBOUND I 64 OFF RAMP EXPERIENCES IN THE EVENING PEAK HOURS.
THE PROJECT WILL CONSTRUCT A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT AT THE TOP OF THE OFF RAMP FOR WESTBOUND I 64.
THIS PROJECT WAS AWARDED $4 MILLION THROUGH THE 2023 COMMUNITY PROJECT FUNDING GRANT THROUGH THE US HOUSE APPROPRIATION COMMITTEE.
AS PART OF THAT GRANT, GUIN COUNTY WAS REQUIRED TO COMMIT THE $1 MILLION MATCH FOR A TOTAL OF $5 MILLION ALLOCATED TO THE PROJECT.
THE REVENUE SHARE PROGRAM OF VDOT PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE UNFUNDED PROJECT COSTS 50 50 WITH THE STATE AT AN ESTIMATED TOTAL COST OF $7.7 MILLION.
THE COUNTY'S OBLIGATION FOR THE UNFUNDED PROJECT COSTS IS THE CURRENT PROJECT FUNDING THE $5 MILLION REVENUE SHARE APPLICATION, $2,719,685 STATE MATCH, $1,359,843.
LOCAL MATCH 1 MILLION 359 840 $3.
FUNDS DO NOT HAVE TO BE ALLOCATED THIS TIME.
THE APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS WILL REQUIRE FUTURE BOARD ACTION.
[4. 5824: Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2024 Goochland County Budget by Transferring and Appropriating $167,557 from the Central Virginia Transportation Authority (CVTA) Fund to the Capital Improvement Fund for the Smart Scale Round 6 Application Assistance]
RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 UCHIN COUNTY BUDGET BY TRANSFERRING AND APPROPRIATING $167,557 FROM THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY FUND TO THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND FOR THE SMART SCALE ROUND SIX APPLICATION ASSISTANCE AS PART OF THE UPCOMING SMART SCALE ROUND SIX APPLICATION CYCLE.STAFF CONTRACTED WITH RENTER DESIGN ASSOCIATES, RDA TO PROVIDE ANALYSIS AND PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING TO SUPPORT OUR APPLICATIONS.
UCHIN COUNTY IS AFFORDED FIVE PRE-APPLICATION SLOTS AND FOUR FULL APPLICATION SLOTS THROUGH THE SMART SCALE.
THE FOLLOWING PROJECTS WILL BE SUBMITTED FOR PRE-APPLICATION REVIEW.
ASHTON ROAD WIDENING FROM I 64 TO THE LIMITS OF THE PROJECT.
ROCKY PROJECT ROUTE 2 88 SOUTHBOUND AUXILIARY LANE, ROUTE 2 88 SOUTHBOUND HARD SHOULDER RUNNING LANE, ROUTE 2 88 WEST BROAD STREET IMPROVEMENTS.
RDA WILL ALSO REVIEW OUR TRANSPORTATION PRIORITIES AND PROVIDE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR FUTURE SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS.
STAFF RECOMMENDS USING C-V-C-V-T-A LOCAL FUNDS TO COVER THE COSTS OF THIS APPLICATION ASSISTANCE.
OUR TOTAL CURRENT BALANCE OF THE C-V-E-T-A LOCAL FUNDS IS $5,917,280.
[5. 5839: Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2024 Goochland County Budget by budgeting and appropriating $750,000 in the County Capital Projects Fund and $150,000 in the General Fund]
IS 58 39.RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 GUCCI COUNTY BUDGET BY BUDGETING AND APPROPRIATING $750,000 IN THE COUNTY CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND AND 150,000 IN THE GENERAL FUND.
THE BOARD HAS REQUESTED TO APPROPRIATE $750,000 TO THE CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND FOR SECURITY CAMERAS AROUND THE COURTHOUSE SQUARE AND $150,000 TO THE GENERAL FUND FOR A VARIETY OF STRATEGIC PLANS.
STUDY, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN STUDY, A CAPITAL IMPACT MODEL STUDY, AND A
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THIRD PARTY IT REVIEW.ALL OF THESE NEW PROJECTS WILL BE FUNDED WITH THE PAST YEAR FISCAL YEAR 23 GENERAL FUND BALANCE.
I'LL ALSO BE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD TO REQUEST AN APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS FROM FUND BALANCE TO PURCHASE FIRETRUCK CURRENTLY LISTED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 25 CIP.
DOING SO WILL RESULT IN A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN TIME FOR DELIVERY AND COST OF EQUIPMENT THAT'LL BE AT A LATER DATE.
[6. 5818: Resolution requesting the Virginia Department of Transportation accept the Mosaic, Section 1 subdivision streets into the Secondary System of State Highways for maintenance]
ITEM 58 18 IS A RESOLUTION REQUESTING VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION EXCEPT MOSAIC SECTION ONE SUBDIVISION STREETS INTO THE SECONDARY SYSTEM OF STATE HIGHWAYS FOR MAINTENANCE.THE CONSTRUCTION ROADS IS COMPLETE.
UH, VDOT NOTIFIED THE COUNTY THAT THESE STREETS ARE READY TO BE ACCEPTED INTO THE SYSTEM FOR MAINTENANCE FOLLOWING THE ADOPTION OF THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION.
THE BOARDS THAT ARE REQUESTED TO BE MOSAIC NOOK, FRESCO COURT AND MOSAIC BOULEVARD AND ALL TOTAL EQUAL APPROXIMATELY SIX TENTHS OF A MILE.
[7. 5822: Resolution requesting the Virginia Department of Transportation accept the Mosaic, Section 4A subdivision streets into the Secondary System of State Highways for maintenance]
RESOLUTION REQUESTING VDOT EXCEPT THE MOSAIC SECTION FOUR A SUBDIVISION STREETS INTO THE SECONDARY SYSTEM OF THE STATE HIGHWAYS FOR MAINTENANCE.AGAIN, THOSE ROADS ARE COMPLETE.
IT'S A TOTAL OF ONE ROAD VERA TERRACE FOR A QUARTER OF A MILE IN DISTANCE.
[8. 5834: Resolution to Refer to the Planning Commission for public hearing an amendment to the Subdivision Ordinance relating to subdivision plat requirements]
RESOLUTION TO REFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR PUBLIC HEARING AND AMENDMENT TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE RELATING TO SUBDIVISION PLATT REQUIREMENTS.THE BOARD IS REQUESTED TO REFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE RELATED TO SUBDIVISION REQUIREMENTS.
THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IS REQUESTED TO IMPROVE ACCURACY OF FINAL PLATTS PROVIDED TO THE COUNTY FOR RECORDING AND THE COUNTY'S OFFICIAL LAND RECORDS KEPT BY THE CIRCUIT COURT CLERK TO IMPROVE THE COUNTY GIS GIS SYSTEM'S PARTIAL ACCURACY AND BRING THE TENTATIVE PLATT PROCESS INTO COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.
AMONG OTHER THINGS, THE AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE THAT GPS COORDINATES BE PROVIDED FOR A MINIMUM OF FOUR POINTS ON A FINAL SUBDIVISION PLATT FOR MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS.
IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSAL WOULD CLARIFY CERTAIN INFORMATION TO BE PROVIDED ON PLATTS, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT PRACTICE AND INDUSTRY STANDARDS.
GPS COORDINATES WOULD GENERALLY NOT BE REQUIRED FOR VACATION PLATTS FAMILY SPLITS OR CERTAIN MINOR SUBDIVISIONS.
MORE WHEREVER THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT DOES NOT IMPACT SURVEYS FOR PRIVATE REAL ESTATE TRANSFERS.
THE NEXT ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU WOULD BE
[9. 5838: Request to initiate and refer to the Planning Commission an amendment to the Zoning and Subdivision Ordinances relating to access management and road standards]
NUMBER 9 58 38 REQUEST TO INITIATE AND REFER TO PLANNING COMMISSION AND AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING AND SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE RELATED TO ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND ROAD STANDARDS.THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IS INTENDED TO IMPROVE THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE PROVISIONS.
ADDRESS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT SUBDIVISION ROADS AND APPROVED SUBDIVISION ROAD STANDARDS.
PROPOSAL CHANGES TO BOTH THE ZONING AND THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE WITHIN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
THE AMENDMENT WOULD, AMONG OTHER THINGS, UPDATE ROAD STANDARDS FOR NEW SUBDIVISIONS TO REDUCE THE NEED FOR FIRE LANE SIGNS.
IT WOULD ALSO ALIGN THE ORDINANCES AND THE MAJOR THOROUGH OF AIR PLAN ROAD CLASSIFICATIONS.
IT WOULD REVISE ACCESS MANAGEMENT STANDARDS TO MATCH VDOT STANDARDS AND UPDATE COMMERCIAL DRIVES TO MEET FIRE CODE ACCESS REQUIREMENTS.
THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WILL CLARIFY HOW THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY IS DETERMINED IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE IMPACT OF FUTURE ROAD WIDENING ON BUILDINGS AND PARKING.
IN ADDITION, THE CHANGES WOULD IMPROVE ROAD PAVEMENT STANDARDS AND INCLUDE A STANDARD FOR A NO LOT FRONTAGE SPINE ROAD IN LARGE DEVELOPMENTS OF 200 OR MORE UNITS FOR THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
THE AMENDMENT WOULD, AMONG OTHER THINGS, UPDATE THE ROAD REQUIREMENTS TO ENSURE THAT MINOR SUBDIVISIONS OF FEWER THAN FIVE LOT THOSE ROADS MEET FIRE ACCESS REQUIREMENTS, DEVELOP PRIVATE ALLEY STANDARDS FOR TOWNHOUSES AND CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT AND REQUIRE CURB AND GUTTER FOR MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS DEVELOPED WITH SMALL LOTS.
ADDITIONALLY, THE AMENDMENT WOULD REQUIRE PUBLIC ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR ALL MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS, BUT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS COULD GRANT EXCEPTION TO THIS REQUIREMENT TYPICALLY DURING REZONING.
[10. 5826: Request to set public hearing for November 1, 2023, to consider an ordinance amending Goochland County Code Sec. 2-26 (Official electoral map, defined) to update the official electoral map with Precinct 301's (Beaverdam) new polling place at the Parks and Recreation Building at the County Complex]
REQUEST TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 1ST, 2023 TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND UCHIN COUNTY CODE SECTION TWO DASH 26.THE OFFICIAL ELECTORAL MAP DEFINED TO UPDATE THE OFFICIAL ELECTORAL MAP WITH PRECINCT 3 0 1.
THE BEAVER DAM'S NEW POLLING PLACE AT THE PARKS AND REC BUILDING NEXT TO THE COUNTY COMPLEX.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPTED INTO MORE AN ORDINANCE ON JULY 3RD, 2023, CHANGING THE POLLING PLACE FOR PRECINCT 3 0 1 BEAVER DAM FROM THE UCHIN COUNTY ANIMAL SHELTER, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 1900 HIDDEN HIDDEN ROCK LANE TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUILDING AT THE COUNTY COMPLEX LOCATED AT 1800 SANDY HOOK ROAD.
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE APPROVED THE CHANGE ON AUGUST 10TH, 2023.
THIS ACTION WILL UPDATE THE OFFICIAL ELECTORAL MAP TO REFLECT NEW POLLING PLACE LOCATION ITEM 11 58 36.
[11. 5836: Request to Set Public Hearing for November 1, 2023 to consider a Lease Agreement with Central Virginia Blacksmith Guild for county-owned property at Central High Cultural and Educational Complex]
TO SET PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 1ST, 2023 TO CONSIDER A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA BLACKSMITH GUILD FOR COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY AT[00:55:01]
THE CENTRAL HIGH CULTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL COMPLEX.THIS LEASE AGREEMENT IS FOR THE PRIOR MIDDLE SCHOOL CAFETERIA PREPARATION SPACE WITH APPROXIMATELY 1700 SQUARE FEET.
THE CDBG WISHES TO CONTINUE ITS ENGAGEMENT AND ACTIVITIES SUCH AS FORGING AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMMING.
THE AGREEMENT IS FOR A TWO YEAR INITIAL TERM WITH AUTOMATIC TWO YEAR RENEWAL.
IT INCLUDES AN ANNUAL RENTAL FEE OF $6,000 AS WELL AS OTHER LEASE REQUIREMENTS.
THE CD BGS USE ALIGNED FOR THE VISION AND BUSINESS PLAN FOR THE CENTRAL HIGH COMPLEX AND AUGMENTS OTHER INITIATIVES ON SITE, INCLUDING THE CULTURAL LARGE CENTER, THE AGRICULTURAL CENTER, AND OTHER ONSITE PRO PROGRAMMING AND PUBLIC USES.
THE AGREEMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
IT'S A LEGAL FORM AND THAT MR. CHAIRMAN IS MY REPORT.
UM, I'M GONNA TAKE, UM, SOME LIBERTIES HERE SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY ITEMS. USUALLY I WOULD NOW ASK FOR A MOTION TO RE ADD, TO REMOVE OR, OR TAKE 'EM AS A GROUP.
I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST MAYBE IF WE OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME TO SEE IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT INDIVIDUAL ITEMS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, MAKING A DETERMINATION.
SO AT THIS TIME I WILL ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS THAT I WILL PROMPTLY SEND TO MR. CARPENTER YOU LOOKING TO MEET FOR.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ON THE OILVILLE ROAD INTERCHANGE PROJECT.
AND, AND THIS TYPICAL, THIS IS PROBABLY, PROBABLY SOME EDUCATION OR EDIFICATION FOR ME.
UM, WHAT WE, WHAT WE SEE ON OUR REPORT IS, UH, PROJECT WAS AWARDED 4 MILLION THROUGH A A, A GRANT THROUGH THE US HOUSE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.
AS PART OF THAT GRANT, WE WERE REQUIRED TO COMMIT A $1 MILLION MATCH.
SO THAT MEANS 5,000,005 MILLION ALLOCATED TO THE PROJECT, PUT ALLOCATED IN QUOTES.
'CAUSE THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT.
UM, WE HAVE NOT APPROPRIATED THE MILLION DOLLARS YET, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
IT'S BEEN EARMARKED INTERNALLY, BUT NOTHING'S BEEN OFFICIALLY APPROPRIATED.
OKAY, SO SINCE YOU NOW YOU USED EARMARKED.
SO I'VE GOT ALLOCATED, EARMARKED, I'M USED TO, UM, ASSIGNED UNASSIGNED ASSIGNED AND APPROPRIATED.
SO, UM, ALRIGHT, SO WE GOT THE 1,000,001 MILLION TO GET THE 4 MILLION MM-HMM,
NOW IT WAS AWARDED IN A GRANT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT GRANT IS AN AWARD THAT'S SAYING IF YOU GET THE PROJECT OTHERWISE FUNDED, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO THE GRANT, THE GRANT IS NOT A COMMITMENT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
IT'S JUST SAYING IS NO, IT'S ON, IT'S, IT'S ON.
UM, UM, SO, SO THAT GRANT, IF FOR SOME REASON WE WEREN'T SUCCESSFUL GETTING REVENUE SHARE FUNDS OR OTHER DOLLARS TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT, THAT WOULD EXPIRE IN 2026.
EXPIRE IN 20, SO, SO WE KNOW THE MONEY'S GOOD UNTIL OCTOBER OF 26.
SO, SO IF, IF WE MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO FUND IT AS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY THE GRANT, WE'RE GOOD.
IF THOSE FUNDS HAVE TO BE OBLIGATED BETWEEN NOW AND OCTOBER OF 26, WHICH PART OF THAT PROJECT AND WHILE WE'RE UH, PURSUING MONEY NOW, IS THAT THAT OBLIGATION TIMELINE REQUIREMENT'S ALSO GONNA FAST TRACK THE PROJECT THROUGH VEDO.
SO, SO JUST AGAIN, JUST I THINK SO, SO WE'RE REALLY CLEAR NOW, YOU USED THE WORD OBLIGATED FUNDS NEED TO BE OBLIGATED.
DOES THAT MEAN APPROPRIATED? YES.
Y'ALL
APPROPRIATED THE MONEY NEEDS TO BE APPROPRIATED.
UM, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S ACCURATE.
SO THE MONEY IS NOT BEING APPROPRIATED AT THIS TIME.
IF YOU RECALL, WE DID A, UM, PREVIOUS BY 2026.
THE MONEY WILL NEED TO BE OFFICIALLY IDENTIFIED AS A LINE ITEM AND HAVE THE FUNDS READILY AVAILABLE TO DISPERSE IN THE BUDGET.
BUT COULD THAT BE ASSIGNED? YES.
BUT YOU'RE ASKING US TODAY NOT TO ASSIGN THE BOTTOM LINE SAYS I'M, I, I'M, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT, ADOPT AND DENIED, DEFER THIS RESOLUTION SUPPORTING AN APPLICATION FOR THE OILVILLE ROAD INTERCHANGE PROJECT.
SO YOU, YOU'RE JUST SAYING YOU'RE GETTING BOARD SAYING GO APPLY.
THIS IS A, UM, EFFORT TO SEEK CONSENSUS AND SUPPORT TO SEEK THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT'S NEEDED THROUGH A REVENUE SHARE APPLICATION.
SO, SO I GUESS I'M TRYING TO, AND AGAIN, THIS IS MAYBE JUST SEMANTICS, BUT I THINK IT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT IS AS DYNAMIC AND AS FLUID AS TRANSPORTATION IS AND, AND THE THINGS ARE ALWAYS MOVING, IT MOVES, FUNDING IS ALWAYS MOVING AND THINGS, I, I GUESS IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THIS IS GOING BEYOND JUST GO APPLY.
IT IS KIND OF A CONSENSUS THAT THIS BOARD IS READY TO FIND, UH, 1 MILLION PLUS ANOTHER 1.3 MILLION.
MR. LUMPKINS, UH, VDOT REQUIRES A RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT TO ACCOMPANY ANY VDOT FUNDING PROGRAM APPLICATION AT THE PRE-APPLICATION STAGE ONE.
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WITH ENSURING THAT THE GOVERNING BODY IS AWARE OF A PROJECT MOVING FORWARD AND TWO, THAT WHAT THEIR PORTION OF A LOCAL MATCH MAY BE.SO THAT SHOULD THE PROJECT BECOME FUNDED, THE LOCALITY IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING IF WE CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, WE ARE AWARE THAT THIS WOULD BE OUR COMMITMENT.
YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE OPTION SHOULD IT GET FUNDED TO RETURN THE FUNDS, UM, OR FULLY FUND YOURSELF VARIETY OF OPTIONS.
AND I, AND I GET IT, BUT I GUESS I'M JUST THINKING WE, WE, WE SAY, WE KIND OF GET A SENSE THAT I GUESS INTERNALLY AND FROM OUR FINANCE SIDE, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR IF WE ADOPT THIS FOR THE NEXT BOARD OR THE, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD WHEN WE'RE THINKING NEXT MONTHS AHEAD, THAT WE SEE WHERE THIS MONEY IS PLANNED TO COME FROM IN, IN OUR FINANCES.
SO IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE'RE NOT ALLOCATING OR APPROPRIATING, AND I KNOW WE DON'T NEED TO APPROPRIATE NOW, BUT IS AN ASSIGNMENT OF THE FUNDS GONNA F AND THAT'S MAYBE A QUESTION MORE TOWARDS FINANCE AND MR. CARPENTER, BUT IS AN ASSIGNMENT OF THESE FUNDS GOING TO COME SHORTLY AFTER THIS RESOLUTION? I BELIEVE THAT ONE OF OUR GOALS WITH THE NEW BUDGET DEVELOPMENT AS WE START FY 20 FIVE'S BUDGET IS TO ACTUALLY GO AHEAD AND WORK TO PROGRAM THOSE DOLLARS OR HAVE THEM IDENTIFIED.
UM, AND WE ARE BEGINNING BUDGET PREPARATIONS AS WE SPEAK.
WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED THE EMAIL FROM OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR YESTERDAY.
THERE WILL BE 2 MILLION IN THE SIGNED FUND BALANCE REQUEST COMING RIGHT AFTER THIS.
THAT REALLY KIND OF TAKES CARE OF MY CONCERN BECAUSE THIS IS MORE THAN JUST AN APPLICATION.
I THINK WE'RE STARTING THE BALL ROLLING ON WHAT I THINK IS A COMMITMENT TO FUND SOMETHING AND, AND THE CITIZENS AND THIS BOARD OUGHT TO KNOW WHAT, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WHETHER IT COMES FROM GENERAL FUNDS OR CVTA FUNDS, THAT'S STILL OPEN, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UM, SO I HAD QUESTIONS ON ITEMS TWO AND THREE AS WELL.
MR. LUMPKIN'S COVERED NUMBER THREE.
NUMBER TWO, MUCH SMALLER PROJECT SIDEWALKS.
UH, AGAIN, DO, THERE'S NO MONEY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? SO THE TOTAL CURRENT, THE REASON WHY THERE'S NO DOLLARS, MUCH LIKE ITEM THREE, THERE'S NO DOLLARS ON THE RESOLUTION INFORMATION IS THE ESTIMATE WAS UNKNOWN AT THE TIME.
IT, IT WAS STILL IN FLUXX AND, AND UNDER REVIEW WITH VDOT, THE CURRENT ESTIMATES IN AND AROUND $1.6 MILLION FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT.
THAT'S ENGINEERING RIGHT AWAY CONSIDERATIONS AND CONSTRUCTION.
UM, SO THE MATH WORKS OUT TO BE APPROXIMATELY THREE TO $350,000 ON OUR 20% REQUIREMENT.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT ALLOCATED AT THIS TIME.
THAT'S JUST MAKING THE BOARD AWARE THAT WE WILL BE ON THE HOOK FOR THAT 20% REQUIREMENT MOVING FORWARD.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME SCENARIO.
UH, SO WE'RE APPLYING FOR IT, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GONNA BE FUNDED.
SO ONCE THE, IF WE WERE TO BE SUCCESSFUL THROUGH THE APPLICATION, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACCEPT THE FUNDS AND THEN WE'RE REQUIRED AT THAT POINT TO ALLOCATE AND, AND GO THROUGH FORMAL BOARD ACTION TO APPROPRIATE THOSE FUNDS.
OR IF THE PROJECT'S FULLY AWARDED THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM, THE BOARD CAN ALSO SAY, WE'RE NOT WILLING TO FUND THIS PROJECT AND THE FUNDS JUST EXPIRE.
THERE'S STILL BOARD DISCRETION TO TO BE HAD ON, ON BOTH PROJECTS.
I ALSO THOUGHT THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT POTENTIAL FOR LOCAL FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO BE USED AS THE LAST CASE THAT WE WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE IF NEED BE THE CCB TA LOCAL.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REITERATE, SO WITH THE VDOT FUNDING CYCLE, WHILE IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE GETTING OUR RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S LOCAL MATCH, THERE IS NOT A DECISION MADE ON FUNDING UNTIL JUNE OF, UM, FFY OF 2024.
SO WE WILL HAVE GONE THROUGH OUR ACTUAL BUDGETING EXERCISE.
IT'S JUST THE WAY THAT THEIR APPLICATION CYCLE SYNCS.
THE PRE-APPLICATION DUE IN OCTOBER FULL APPLICATION IS DUE IN MID-SPRING.
SO IT JUST DOESN'T ALIGN CLEANLY WITH LOCALITY BUDGETING WHEN YOU'RE STARTING TO DO A BUDGET.
AND AS I'M STARTING TO THINK ABOUT ROLLING OFF THIS BOARD, IT'S A CONCERN OF MINE TO PUT THINGS IN PLACE THAT BIND A FUTURE AND I GUESS REALLY CAN'T, BUT WE'RE PUTTING THINGS IN PLACE THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON, I GUESS, ON THIS.
CORRECT, AND, AND I'LL SAY IF, IF FUNDS ARE AWARDED FOR ANY OF THE PROJECT APPLICATIONS WE HAVE IDENTIFIED TODAY, UM, THERE'S ALWAYS A PROJECT AGREEMENT THAT IS ENTERED INTO AT THE TIME THAT FUNDS ARE AWARDED.
SO THERE IS THE CHANCE, UM, AT THAT TIME THAT A FUTURE BOARD CAN MAKE A DECISION AS TO HOW THEY WANNA HANDLE THAT PROJECT AGREEMENT.
SO THIS IS NOT BINDING IN PERPETUITY.
UM, AUSTIN, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, UH, EARLIER, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR CITIZENS TO KNOW BECAUSE THEY'RE, WE'RE GONNA SEE THIS PROJECT AND THEY'RE GONNA SEE WOW, THERE'S LIKE 40 MORE YARDS THAT WE COULD HAVE JUST FINISHED THIS THING.
SO, UM, I THINK PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE COMPLEXITIES
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OF GETTING FUNDS FROM DIFFERENT RIGHT.BUCKETS AND THE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS.
SO ALSO, COULD YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY WE'RE NOT JUST DOING THE WHOLE SIDEWALK? SO THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM, A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON IT IS FEDERALLY FUNDED.
SO WITH FEDERAL DOLLARS COME FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS AND, AND OBLIGATIONS.
SO THAT ADDS A WHOLE NOTHER LAYER OF, UM, COMPLEXITY INTO THE PROJECT IN AND OF ITSELF.
UM, THE SIDEWALK PROJECTS, OBVIOUSLY ALL NEW SIDEWALK HAS TO MEET ADA REQUIREMENTS AND, AND SO ON.
THE PROBLEM BECOMES AS SOON AS WE TOUCH EXISTING SIDEWALK, IF WE'RE PLANNING ON UTILIZING THAT TO WHAT'S CALLED A LOGICAL TERMINI, IF SIDEWALK HAS TO GO FROM A LOGICAL POINT A TO A LOGICAL POINT B, UM, IT CAN'T JUST BE SIDEWALK THAT GOES DOWN TO TO TO NOTHING.
UM, IF WE WERE TO TOUCH EXISTING SIDEWALK, THAT SIDEWALK'S GOTTA GET REPLACED IF IT DOESN'T MEET STANDARDS AND THE SIDEWALK IN THE COURTHOUSE HAS SOME SUSPECT AREAS IF WE'RE BEING HONEST.
UM, SO WE MADE THE DECISION THAT PHASE ONE, AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY THE FIRST PHASE OF THE CONNECTIVITY GOAL OF THE SMALL AREA PLAN IS TO INFILL WHAT'S A CURRENT GAP OF THE SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THEN WE'LL WORK ON SORT OF FIXING SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE KNOW ARE, UH, PROBABLY NOT AADA A COMPLIANT.
UM, AND JUST AS SOMEBODY THAT HOPES I'LL BE SITTING HERE NEXT YEAR, UM, I, I WOULD SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE BOARD IS LOOKING FOR ALTERNATIVES AND WE DIDN'T MISS A YEAR OF FUNDING POSSIBILITIES.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT'D BE LIKE, WHAT DID YOU DO? OKAY.
UM, I AM READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION IF SOMEBODY'S WILLING TO MAKE IT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT, UH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS AS PRESENTED.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
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AND I BELIEVE WE GOT ONE MORE THING, UH, WHICH IS THE, SO THE BACK PAGE FUND BUDGET FUND BALANCE ASSIGNMENTS, MS. CAVE,[1. 5837: Approval of FY2023 Fund Balance Assignments]
THINK LISA'S GONNA BRING THAT UP, BUT YEAH.CARLA K, FINANCE DIRECTOR AND I'M UP HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO DO A FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE FISCAL YEAR 23 FUND BALANCE ASSIGNMENTS.
AND AS HE'S BRINGING THIS UP, THIS IS, UM, OUR SECOND AND FINAL REVIEW.
THIS WAS BROUGHT TO YOU WITH PRELIMINARY NUMBERS IN AUGUST, AND THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S MOTION IS TO OFFICIALLY APPROVE THESE ASSIGNED USES AND, UM, THE DESIGNATIONS WILL BE LAID OUT IN OUR AFER OUR ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT.
UM, SO I'VE GOT THE PDF UP HERE, BUT WE HAD OUR AUDITORS IN ALL LAST WEEK AND THEY FINISHED UP FRIDAY AFTERNOON.
SO THESE ARE FAIRLY UPTODATE FIGURES.
THEY WILL PROBABLY CHANGE SLIGHTLY, BUT WE ARE BRINGING IN A GENERAL FUND SURPLUS OF ABOUT 9.9 MILLION.
UM, AND WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT 57.5 MILLION THAT WE'LL END WITH IN OUR GENERAL FUND AND DESIGNATE HOW MUCH WE WANT TO KEEP AS UNASSIGNED, WHICH MEANS WE CAN USE ON ANYTHING OPERATIONAL GOING FORWARD, ANYTHING YOU CHOOSE TO.
AND, UM, SOME OF THAT MONEY IS NONS SPENDABLE SUCH AS OUR PREPAIDS, OUR INVENTORY.
SOME OF IT IS RESTRICTED, WHICH MEANS IT'S LEGALLY BOUND FOR CERTAIN USES.
UM, A PORTION OF IT IS COMMITTED, WHICH IS OUR BOARD IS DESIGNATING IT SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS ONE PURPOSE FORMALLY.
AND THAT IS OUR, UM, REVENUE STABILIZATION RESERVE.
AND THEN THE REST WE PUT IN BUCKETS CALLED ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS WHAT MR. LUMPKINS WAS TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE'VE REVIEWED THIS IN PRETTY GOOD DETAIL IN AUGUST, BUT I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT SOME OF THE LARGEST CHANGES FROM FISCAL YEAR 22 TO 23 ARE, WE HAVE PLACED A LOT MORE, UM, ABOUT, UM, $11 MILLION MORE IN CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUNDING.
SO WE KNOW WE HAVE SOME HUGE PROJECTS COMING UP.
SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE BASICALLY THE ENTIRE SURPLUS FROM FISCAL YEAR 23 AND HOLD THAT FOR FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
UM, WHAT'S GONNA BE REMAINING FOR UNASSIGNED IS KEEPING US RIGHT AT OUR 25% TARGET.
SO THAT'S RIGHT WHERE WE WANNA BE WITH OUR POLICIES.
AND WE HAVE RIGHT AT 3.25 MILLION FOR OUR REVENUES REVENUE STABILIZATION RESERVE.
AND THAT'S ALSO RIGHT AT OUR 3% TARGET WHERE WE WANNA BE.
UM, I WILL RECOMMEND THAT YOU APPROVE THIS MOTION AS AMENDED BECAUSE IT DOES INCLUDE A CAPITAL PROJECT THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, UM, THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN TO ASK FOR FUNDING AT A LATER DATE, WHICH IS STATION EIGHT, UM, TEMPORARY.
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FOR A TEMPORARY STATION.EIGHT WE'RE, WE DON'T OWN THE LAND YET, SO WE'RE GONNA, UM, CHOOSE TO DEFER THAT AT A LATER MONTH.
BUT THAT IS WRITTEN INTO THE MOTION THAT YOU HAVE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO PULL THAT OUT IF YOU COULD APPROVE THIS AS AMENDED.
AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING ELSE, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAD ANOTHER SOLID YEAR.
UM, I, I'VE SEEN THIS, UM, THESE NUMBERS UP HERE AND I ALSO HAVE THE, THE BOARD PACKET HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PULL THOSE TWO UP, BUT IT WAS REALLY ON ONE THING I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT BETWEEN THE TWO AND TRY AND RECONCILE THE TWO.
AND THERE'S A BULLET POINT THAT SAYS WE'VE INCREASED, UH, THE ASSIGNMENT FOR FUTURE CIP FUTURE CAPEX PROJECTS IN THE BOARD PACKAGE SAYS FROM 8 MILLION TO 8.4 MILLION.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, THE FUTURE CIP PROJECTS.
THAT'S BECAUSE A LOT DIFFERENT IN YOUR BOARD PACKET.
I'M COMPARING, UM, WHAT WAS PRESENTED IN AUGUST TO WHAT'S PRE PRESENTED NOW.
AND UP HERE YOU'RE COMPARING FISCAL YEAR 22, JUNE, JUNE TO POTS TO FISCAL YEAR 23 POTS, TWO DIFFERENT COMPARISONS.
AND THAT 8.4 MILLION WOULD REALLY BE 9.4 MILLION.
NOW THAT WE'RE GETTING RID OF THAT A MILLION DOLLARS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PDF UP HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE ASSIGNING $10 MILLION TO FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS.
AND I'M PULLING ONLY 600,000 OUT.
ORIGINALLY WHEN WE HAD TO SUBMIT THIS INTO OUR MINUTE TRACK DOCUMENTATION, WE WERE ALSO INCLUDING ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS.
SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE YOUR 9.4 MILLION IS COMING THROUGH.
WELL, THE, THE RECONCILIATION THAT IS GET TWO DIFFERENT TIME PERIODS WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, SO BOARD, I MEAN, THIS IS ALL PART OF OUR CLOSING OF THE BOOKS AND PREPARATION FOR THE, UH, FINAL REPORT TO THE STATE, UH, WITH OUR ANNUAL BUDGET OR OUR ANNUAL, UH, AUDIT.
SO WE, UH, AS YOU, AS WE ALL KNOW IN JUNE 30 IS A CUTOFF, BUT TAX REVENUES AND PAYMENTS DRIBBLE IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, LATE COUPLE OF WEEKS LATE CUT.
AND WE'RE PERMITTED UNDER OUR STATE LAW TO, UM, POST THOSE TO OUR BOOKS AND RECORDS WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME AFTER THAT.
SO THE, THE BOOKS AREN'T REALLY CLOSED ON JUNE 30TH.
IT TAKES QUITE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AFTERWARDS.
BRING THE AUDITORS IN CLOSE UP, MAKE SURE ALL, EVERYTHING, THE NUMBERS ARE ALL, UM, ACCURATE AS WELL.
SO THIS IS ONE OF OUR FINAL DREW UP PERIODS.
SO NOVEMBER IS, UH, BY NOVEMBER 30TH, END OF END OF NOVEMBER IS WHEN THE AUDIT IS DUE TO THE STATE.
UM, IN THE PAST WE HAD TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN NOVEMBER TO APPROVE THE AUDIT.
SO IT WOULD BE DELIVERED ON TIME ON NOVEMBER 30TH.
AND THEY'VE CHANGED STATE LAW, I BELIEVE.
SO WE'RE ABLE TO APPROVE THE AUDIT RESULTS, UH, AT OUR DECEMBER MEETING AND NOT HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS ON THAT FRONT.
SO THESE ARE THOSE FINAL, FINAL TRUE UP NUMBERS, OR AT LEAST NEAR FINAL TRUE UP NUMBERS? THEY'RE VERY NEAR FINAL.
VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY NEAR FINAL.
THEY COULD BE FINAL, WE'LL SEE
DID I GET THAT CLOSE? YOU DID.
ALRIGHT, WELL YOU DID ANSWER MY QUESTION.
I RECONCILE THE NUMBERS, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND UH, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE HAD ANOTHER SOLID YEAR, SO THAT'S GOOD.
UM, AND THEN OUR NEXT REPORT FOR THE QUARTERLY RESULTS FOR FY 24, THE ONE WE'RE CURRENTLY IN, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT YEAR THAN THIS, UM, WOULD BE PRESENTED AT THE DECEMBER MEETING AS WELL.
NOVEMBER, AT THE NOVEMBER MEETING, ACTUALLY POSSIBLY WE MOVED IT TO DECEMBER.
WE'LL HAVE IT READY IN NOVEMBER, BUT WE'RE GONNA OFFICIALLY GIVE IT IN DECEMBER.
UM, 'CAUSE I THINK UNDER OUR POLICIES WE'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT BACK, UH, THE QUARTERLY NUMBERS EACH QUARTER MM-HMM.
TO THIS BOARD SO THAT WE CAN KEEP TRACK OF THINGS.
SO THAT IS GONNA BE NOVEMBER, DECEMBER-ISH.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE DECEMBER 5TH.
LISA KNOWS SHE'S ON TOP OF IT.
WELL, THAT'S WHY ON OUR CALENDAR AND OUR ADJOURNMENTS, IT DOESN'T MENTION A PUBLIC MEETING, UM, NEXT MONTH IN NOVEMBER BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING.
THAT ANSWERS ALL MY QUESTIONS.
UM, WE JUST, UM, A FEW MINUTES AGO APPROVED, UM, $750,000 FOR, UM, CAMERAS IN THE COURTHOUSE AREA, A 750 IN THE CAPITAL.
WELL, WE AMENDED THE BUDGET FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET.
750 FOR THE CAPITAL, UM, PROJECT FUND AND 150 IN THE GENERAL FUND AND THAT WE JUST APPROVED.
AND I SEE WE HAVE A, A 600,000 HERE THAT WE ARE ASSIGNING.
IS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE SEVEN 50? NO, THAT IS A PIECE OF THE SEVEN 50.
IF YOU SEE ABOVE, IT'S A FOUR ROWS DOWN ON THIS PDF ON THE SCREEN.
UM, THERE'S 150,000 SITTING AND IT HAS BEEN SITTING FOR SEVERAL YEARS GOTCHA.
FUNDS SPECIFICALLY FOR THE SHERIFF'S USE.
SO WE'RE GONNA COMBINE THOSE TO TOTAL THE SEVEN 50.
MM-HMM,
WE'VE, WE'VE LEARNED THROUGH THIS THAT THESE, THIS NEW
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SYSTEM IS GOING TO BE PURCHASED IN, UH, PREPARATION FOR THE NEW COURTHOUSE.SO IT, WE WON'T HAVE TO GO OUT AND BUY ALL NEW, I MEAN, WE HAVE MAY HAVE TO GET SOME EQUIPMENT, BUT THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE, UM, THOUGHT TO MAKING, GETTING READY FOR AND NOT HAVING TOTAL, UH, NOT HAVING TO REBUY EVERYTHING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MR. VARS? NO.
ALLION, I MOVE THAT THE UCHIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE AS AMENDED THE JUNE 30TH, 2023 FUND BALANCE ASSIGNMENTS.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
PLEASE FAVOR SAYING AYE A AYE.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU EVERYONE.
UH, GOOD SESSION AND, UM, WE WILL RECESS NOW TILL OUR 6:00 PM MEETING.
[XIII. Dinner Break/Recess]
GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.[XIV. 6:00 PM - Chair Calls Meeting Back to Order]
IT IS MY HONOR TO CALL BACK TO ORDER THE OCTOBER 3RD, UH, MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.WE HAVE OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING.
UH, BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR CITIZENS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON MATTERS PERTAINING TO GUIN COUNTY THAT ARE NOT ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
IF YOU'D COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND PLEASE GIVE YOUR, UH, NAME AND ADDRESS AND PLEASE TRY TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
[XV. Citizen Comment]
THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.UM, AFTER THE CENTERVILLE PLAN IS DEAD, IT'S CRITICAL.
PARDON? NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
STEVEN SHORROCK 12 2 0 1 BREMNER RIDGE CIRCLE.
WE NEED A REALISTIC ROAD PLAN THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THE FULL BUILD OUT OF CENTERVILLE.
ONE THAT RESERVES AND PRESERVES THE RIGHTS OF WAY FOR FUTURE GROWTH.
NEITHER THE 2035 PLAN NOR THE LATEST CENTERVILLE PLAN MAPS SHOW ANYTHING CLOSE TO BEING ADEQUATE TO DO WITH THE POPULATION GROWTH THAT'S COMING.
THE YEARS OLD MASTER THOROUGH FAIR PLAN NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
ROADS CAN BE BUILT AS TWO LANE ROADS, BUT WE HAVE TO PRESERVE THE RIGHTS OF WAY.
IT'LL BE TOO LATE TO MODIFY ROADS WHEN DEVELOPMENT BUILDS RIGHT UP TO THE EDGE OF THE CURRENT NARROW COUNTRY ROADS.
IT'LL BE IMPOSSIBLE COST-WISE TO ACQUIRE THE RIGHTS OF WAY ON LAND WITH NEW BUILDINGS.
WE WILL BE EVALUATING A PATCHWORK OF DEVELOPMENT.
DEVELOPERS WILL SUBMIT TRAFFIC STUDIES SHOWING THE IMPACT OF ONE PROJECT AT A TIME, NOT THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT.
BY IDENTIFYING REAL ROAD NEEDS THAT ACCOMPANY DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, THE PUBLIC CAN SEE THE REAL IMPACT IN THE COST OF THE PROJECTS.
WE'LL HAVE WELL-DESIGNED ATTRACTIVE BUILDINGS, BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPING, AND WE'LL HAVE THE TIME TO ADMIRE THEM AS WE SIT IN BUMPER TO BUMPER TRAFFIC.
AFTER THE 2035 CENTERVILLE PLANE IS DEAD, IT'S CRITICAL THAT YOU TACKLE THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
MY NAME IS PATRICIA HEDY AND I LIVE AT, UH, WHEATLAND DRIVE IN MANNEQUIN SABO.
I HAVEN'T PREPARED ANY REMARKS, BUT I HAVE SOMETHING I WANNA SAY.
I'VE LIVED HERE A LONG TIME AND I WANT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STEPPING DOWN FROM THE BOARD TO KNOW HOW MUCH WE'VE APPRECIATED YOUR RESPECT, YOUR COURTESY, YOUR POLITENESS TOWARD THE RESIDENTS, YOUR IMPARTIALITY, AND THE HOURS YOU'VE SPENT WORKING THAT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT.
LISA'S ANOTHER ONE SITTING OVER THERE, HARD WORKING.
SHE'S ALWAYS THERE FAITHFUL TO EVERYTHING GLAND WAS CREATED TO BE.
AND YOU CARRIED THAT BANNER FOR US.
AND I THINK YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKING TO.
FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART GLAND WAS BETTER BECAUSE YOU CAME, YOU SUPPORTED WHAT GLAND STOOD FOR AND YOU HELPED US ALL.
ANYONE, ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? OKAY, SEEING
[XVI. Public Hearings]
YOU? NO, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.WE WILL MOVE INTO OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING, UH, DISTRICT FIVE,
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UH, APPLICATION FOR[1. 5821: District 5 - CU-2023-00013 Application by Crystal H. Goodwin requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for a detached accessory family housing unit on 17.668 acres at 1180 Yellow Gate Lane on Tax Map No. 56-15-0-6-0. The property is zoned Residential, Rural (R-R) with proffered conditions. The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-132 in accordance with Sec. 15-285.A. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]
CRYSTAL GOODWIN.UH, CHAIRMAN SPOON HOWER, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M CRYSTAL UNITAS, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
THIS, OH, THIS IS THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.
I LOVE IT WHEN I CAN WORK MY COMPUTER SKILLS.
THIS IS YOUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING.
IT IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A DETACHED ACCESSORY FAMILY, FAMILY HOUSING UNIT FOR FAMILY RELATED USE.
UM, IT'S ON A PARCEL THAT IS 17.6 ACRES, LOCATED AT 1180 YELLOW GATE LANE IN THE ZONING OF RESIDENTIAL RURAL.
AND OUR COMP PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT.
UM, IT'S SPECIFICALLY THE DEEP RUN HUNT COUNTRY, UM, WHICH HAS A SPECIAL DESIGNATION WITHIN OUR COMP PLAN.
SO THE LOCATION THAT I REFERENCED BEFORE IS LOCATED IN THE HEN SPRINGS SUBDIVISION.
AND IF I SAID THAT WRONG, I APOLOGIZE.
I SAID IT WRONG EARLIER THIS WEEK WHEN I WAS PRACTICING.
UM, IT'S ABOUT 1.5 MILES NORTH OF ROUTE SIX.
AND I'M SORRY, YELLOW GATE LANE CONNECTS TO MILLER'S LANE.
SO IT'S RUNS PARALLEL TO ROUTE SIX.
MILLER'S LANE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, KIND OF CONNECTS AT, UH, HEADS OFF AT MANNEQUIN.
UM, IT'S A LARGE LOT HOME IN A SUBDIVISION WITH, UM, LESS THAN I HAVE NOTES.
THERE'S NINE LOTS IN HEBBURN SPRING, UM, SUBDIVISION.
SO IT IS A VERY LARGE LOT SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE ZONING MAP, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, IT DESIGNATES THIS AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND THE A TWO ZONING NORTH IS BAYLESS ESTATES.
AND AGAIN, ON OUR COMP PLAN MAP, IT IS THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA, WHICH AGAIN, IS CHARACTERIZED BY, UM, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL FOREST, OR OTHER USES WHICH ARE NOT PLANNED FOR PUBLIC OR CENTRAL UTILITIES.
AND, UM, HAVING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE WITH ANY RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO JUST SPECIFICALLY TO THIS SITE, THE PRIMARY DWELLING, UM, IS HERE CIRCLED IN RED.
THAT'S A TWO STORY HOME THAT'S ABOUT 9,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE PROPOSED ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT WILL BE ABOVE A GARAGE, UM, CIRCLED HERE IN YELLOW AT, UH, UPPER LEVEL OF 750 FEET, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF 3000 SQUARE FEET OF AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
UM, THE BUILDING DOES MEET OUR SETBACKS AS REQUIRED BY ZONING AND BASED ON THE COMP PLAN AND THE DESIGNATIONS, UM, THAT THIS PARCEL LIES WITHIN, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN.
BOTH STRUCTURES WILL ACCESS THE SAME DRIVEWAY AND THE APPLICANT UNDERSTANDS THE NEED TO OBTAIN HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVAL FOR WELL AND SEPTIC.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE APPLICATION IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
A COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD JULY 31ST, 2023.
NO ONE FROM THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY ATTENDED, AND WE DID VALIDATE THAT NOTICES WERE SENT.
UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARD THIS CASE ON SEPTEMBER 7TH, LAST MONTH.
UM, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, I WILL MAKE NOTE THAT NO ONE SPOKE, BUT THE APPLICANT DID ASK, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A 10 YEAR CUP.
HOWEVER, A FIVE YEAR STANDARD TERM CUP WAS APPROVED ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
UM, HERE'S THE CONDITIONS, I'M HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THEM.
THEY ARE STANDARD CUP CONDITIONS WITHOUT ANY EXCEPTIONS OR EXEMPTIONS FOR OUR ACCESSORY FAMILY HOUSING UNITS THAT THE COUNTY HAS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? DID THE APPLICANT WANNA SAY ANYTHING? I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND OR THE REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE.
MY NAME'S MIKE ROTHER MALM, AN ATTORNEY WITH THE LAW FIRM OF SPOTS VEIN, UH, HERE FOR MS. GOODWIN TONIGHT.
UM, WE, WE THANK THE STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US ON THIS CASE.
UH, WE, THEY, THEY DID ADD SOME LANGUAGE, UH, TO ONE OF THE CONDITIONS SPECIFYING THAT CAREGIVERS AND CARETAKERS, UM, ARE ALLOWED TO RESIDE IN THE, UH, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.
THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS, UH, MS. GOODWIN IS SEEKING TO, TO MAKE THIS CHANGE, UH, OR TO DO THIS, UM, FINISH OF THE, UH, DETACHED GARAGE.
WW UH, MS. ONUS MENTIONED, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS STANDARD IS A FIVE-YEAR RENEWAL, UH, ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE AGREED THAT THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS NOT GOING TO BE RENTED OUT.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE LISTED ON ANY SORT OF AIRBNB, UM, OR, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL
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WEBSITE.UH, THIS IS, UH, MS. GOODWIN'S PARENTS ARE AGING.
UH, SHE HERSELF IS A HEART TRANSPLANT RECIPIENT.
DOING GREAT NOW, BUT JUST SORT OF PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ASK FOR SOME RELIEF ON THAT FIVE YEAR, UH, UM, RENEWAL TO, I, I TECHNICALLY ASKED FOR IT TO BE, TO BE DONE AWAY WITH, BUT, UM, THE, THE STAFF CONVINCED ME TO, TO JUST ASK FOR 10 YEARS.
SO WE WOULD ASK FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE BOARD'S, UH, FAVOR ON THAT, UM, TO, TO AMEND THAT CONDITION AND, AND MAKE THE RENEWAL ONLY EVERY 10 YEARS.
BUT WITH THAT, THAT'S, UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THERE MAY BE, BUT WE, WE APPRECIATE THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION.
NO BOARD ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
JONATHAN LYLE 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE APPRECIATED ABOUT THIS BOARD IS THAT YOU HAVE LOOKED AT EACH ZONING REQUEST INDIVIDUALLY AND UNDERSTOOD THANKS TO MS. MCGEE, THAT THERE IS NO PRECEDENT BEING SET WHEN YOU MAKE DECISIONS.
UH, THE FACT THAT SOMEBODY IS LOOKING FOR FAMILY OR SOMEONE TO ASSIST, FAMILY TO UTILIZE THIS MAKES SENSE TO ME THAT A 10 YEAR CUP EXTENSION IS, IS APPROPRIATE.
I KNOW WITH LITTLE HAWK FARMS, YOU, UH, WERE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM WITH AN EXTENSION OR AN EXCEPTION, IF WE WANNA USE THAT WORD TO THE FIVE YEAR CUP.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE.
IT'S FOR FAMILY, IT'S NOT GONNA BE RENTED OUT.
AND, UM, AS MUCH FUN AS I HAVE COMING TO BOARD MEETINGS, NOT EVERYBODY THINKS IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR A GOOD WAY TO SPEND A TUESDAY NIGHT.
SO IF YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND ACCOMMODATE THE 10 YEAR REQUEST, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO COMMENT? OKAY, NOW I'M CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
BOARD, ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION DISCUSSION.
SO, MR. GOSS, SO THE PROPOSED, SO IT WOULD BE AS AMENDED TO SAY WE APPROVE A FIVE YEAR, OR IS THAT THE OPPOSITE AS AMENDED WOULD BE TO APPROVE TENURE YEAR.
I JUST DO, I DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE THE PRECEDENT BEING SET WITH THE POTENTIAL TENURE AMENDMENT, SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I KNEW HOW IT WAS GONNA BE PROPOSED.
YOU, ANY COMMENTS? I DON'T, I, I, IF I UNDERSTOOD MR. WATERS, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S PRECEDENT SETTING IF WE ALLOWED 10 YEARS.
I, I, I RECALL WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST.
UM, JUST TO FOLLOW ON THAT, UM, MAYBE, UH, MS. MCGEE CAN WEIGH IN HERE ON, UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UM, WHEN WE APPROVE A CONDITIONALLY USED PERMIT, ACUP, IT CREATES A UNIQUE ZONING FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
IN FACT, UM, ALTHOUGH THIS, UH, APPLICATION HAS BEFORE YOU THE, THE STANDARD CONDITIONS, WE ACTUALLY DID AMEND THE LANGUAGE ABOUT THE USE TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT A CAREGIVER OR CARETAKER COULD BE IN THE, UH, IN THE, UH, UH, EXCUSE ME, UH, ACCESSORY DWELLING, UM, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE.
BUT YET IS THAT A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OTHER ONES? IT IS BECAUSE EACH CONDITIONAL USE IS, SHOULD BE ITS OWN.
UM, MAY START FROM THE STANDARD COMMISSIONS AND THEY MAY END THERE, BUT VARIATION IS PERMITTED 'CAUSE IT'S VERY, IT'S UNIQUE.
SO NEITHER OF THOSE, THE ADDITION OF CAREGIVERS NOR THE FIVE TO 10, NEITHER OF THOSE WOULD CREATE ANY KIND OF PRECEDENT THAT WOULD THAT'S CORRECT.
OKAY, MR. PETERSON, I SEE YOUR LIGHT ON MR. CHAIR IF YOU'RE, UH, PREPARED TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
UM, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD GRANT CONDITION USE PERMIT CU 2023, NUMBER 13 FOR DETACHED ACCESSORY FAMILY DWELLING UNIT AT 1180 YELLOW GATE LANE, SUBJECT TO IMPOSED CONDITIONS WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT.
UM, I PROPOSE THAT WE EXTEND THE DURATION TO A 10 YEAR, SO IT WOULD EXPIRE THE LAST DAY OF OCTOBER OF 2033.
UM, MS. MCGEE, PLEASE, UH, REFRESH MY MEMORY WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
IF THE HOUSE WERE TO SELL OR SOMETHING, WOULD THESE CONDITIONS TRANSFER TO NEW OWNERS? THEY DO TRANSFER TO NEW OWNERS.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I CAN'T SUPPORT IT TO HERE.
HOW IS, HOW IS THAT NOT PRECEDENT? PRECEDENT IS A DIFFERENT CONCEPT, WHEREAS IT IMPACTS YOUR NEXT DECISION, UM,
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AS OPPOSED TO THE LENGTH OF TIME OF THE CUP.SO AGAIN, JUST TO, I'M SORRY, JUST FOLLOW ON THAT.
SO YES, IT DOES TRANSFER AND YES, IT WOULD CONTINUE TO BIND ANY FUTURE OWNER AS TO ONLY FAMILY AND OR CAREGIVERS.
AND THE CONDITION, UM, DOES INCLUDED IN OUR STANDARD THAT AT THE TIME OF TRANSFER BEFORE THEY'RE REQUIRED TO TELL THE NEW PEOPLE ABOUT THE CONDITIONS HERE THAT HAVE TO BE MET.
SO THAT IS, UM, WE ALWAYS INCLUDE THAT IN CUP BECAUSE IT DOES RUN WITH THE LAND AND THE PROPERTY FOR WHATEVER PERIOD OF TIME IT'S GRANTED.
SO WE ALSO HAVE A PROVISION, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO NOTIFY THEM, UH, AND WHO, WHO IS OBLIGATED TO MONITOR WHAT A NEW OWNER WOULD DO.
RIGHT? THE COUNTY HAS A COMPLAINT BASED SYSTEM OKAY.
SO FIVE YEARS ALLOWS US TO COME BACK TO THE TABLE CENTER TO SEE WHAT'S THAT THINGS ARE BEING DONE AS THEY SHOULD BE.
WHEREAS A NEW OWNER COULD TAKE THINGS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS EFFECTIVELY.
AT FIVE YEARS IT WOULD BE BACK BEFORE THE BOARD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, MR. CARPENTER, ROLL CALL VOTE.
YOU GOT YOUR, OR THEY GO? THERE YOU ARE.
ALL THE SUITS BLENDED IN THERE.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR NEXT CASE, WHICH IS IN
[2. 5823: District 4 - RZ-2023-00008 Application by SP Real Estate Holdings LLC requesting proffer amendments to rezoning case RZ-2015-00004 to add automobile sales and service as permitted uses and to add a conceptual plan and related proffers, for 6.93 acres at 12501 Broad Street Road on Tax Map No. 59-3-2-F-P7. The property is zoned Business, General (B-1) with proffered conditions. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Prime Economic Development]
DISTRICT FOUR, MS. SINUS.I AM, UH, CRYSTAL DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE RECORD.
AND THE NEXT CASE YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU ALL IS A REZONING AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SP REAL ESTATE HOLDINGS.
LLC, UM, ALSO KNOWN AS A, UM, HONDA DEALERSHIP IS THE APPLICANT'S INTENT.
UM, THERE ARE COMPANION CASES FOR THIS.
AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S A REZONING, WHICH IS A, ACTUALLY SEEKING A PROFFER AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING REZONING, UM, CASE TO ADD A CAR DEALERSHIP USE TO THE APPROVED USE, UM, OF AN EXISTING MEMORY CARE FACILITY AS AN APPROVED USE.
SORRY, I SAID THAT CONFUSINGLY, BUT MAKES SENSE.
UM, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS WELL FOR AUTOMOBILE SALES.
SO THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION THAT THEY ARE SEEKING.
SHOULD THE REZONING BE APPROVED, THE BOARD MAY HOLD ONE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH CASES, HOWEVER YOU ALL AS A BODY MUST VOTE ON THE REZONING FIRST AND THEN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO JUST A LITTLE SPECIFICS ON THIS SITE.
UM, AGAIN, IT IS LOCATED RIGHT ON, UH, BROAD STREET ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS ROUTE TWO 50 AT THE HENRICO AND GLAND COUNTY LINE.
UM, THE, IT'S LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BROAD AT THE GLAND HENRICO BOUNDARY AS I JUST MENTIONED.
AND IT'S 6.93 ACRES, UM, AS AN ACTUAL SITE.
AND IT CONTAINS THE CENTERVILLE BOOSTER STATION.
IT ALSO HAS SOME OTHER, UM, FEATURES THAT GO THROUGH IT, SUCH AS A UTILITY LINE FOR HENRICO COUNTY.
UM, JUST GOING INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATIONS, THIS SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN OUR PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA.
IT IS ALSO A DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA.
IT IS ZONED B ONE GENERAL BUSINESS WITH PROFFERS.
AGAIN, IT WAS PREVIOUSLY REZONED TO ALLOW FOR MEMORY CARE AND ASSOCIATED USES FOR THAT.
THEY ARE SEEKING REZONING TO ADD CAR DEALERSHIP USE.
UM, IT IS PART OF OUR CENTERVILLE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
AND AGAIN, JUST A LITTLE MORE ON OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATIONS.
THE PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA AND ITS INTENT IS TO PROMOTE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COUNTY'S TAX BASE, PROMOTE AND ATTRACT USES THAT SERVE, UH, TO RETAIN CORPORATE INVESTMENT AND GENERATE JOBS, AS WELL AS EXPAND DIVERSITY OF THE COUNTY'S TAX BASE, WHICH I MENTIONED.
THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS AS OUTLINED IN OUR COMP PLANS ARE AREAS WHERE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE CONCENTRATED.
THE ADVANTAGES OF HAVING SUCH AREAS INCLUDE PROACTIVELY PLANNING AND COORDINATING, REDUCING PRESSURE TO DEVELOP AND RURAL AREAS AND SUPPORTING COST EFFECTIVENESS BY UTILIZING EXISTING AND PLANNED INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITATING PRIVATE SECTOR INVESTMENT IN INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS OUR TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT.
AND THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT.
SO JUST CONTINUING ON WITH OUR COMP PLAN ANALYSIS, THESE APPLICATIONS, BOTH THE REZONING AND THE CONDITIONAL USE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATIONS PER STAFF ANALYSIS.
TOUCHING ON, UM, WHERE THIS HITS WITH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT THE COUNTY HAS, THESE APPLICATIONS ARE ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN THAT PROMOTES
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RETAIL DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY'S DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS AND ESPECIALLY WITHIN OUR TCSD.SO WE'RE ON THE SITE IN OF ITSELF.
UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, IT'S ZONED BUSINESS GENERAL B ONE TO ALLOW FOR MEMORY CARE FACILITY RELATED USES AND BANKING INSTITUTIONS.
UM, HERE'S A LIST OF THE ALREADY EXISTING APPROVED USES.
THE EXISTING PERMIT PERMITTED USES WERE APPROVED IN 2015 WITH ZONING AND ARE PART OF THIS APPLICATION AT THE REQUEST OF THE CURRENT OWNER SELLER.
SO ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE SEEKING TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL USE AND RETAIN EXISTING USES.
HERE IS A CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED US FOR THE PROPOSED HONDA DEALERSHIP.
UM, THE STAFF HAS MARKED UP THIS, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN TO SHOW SOME MAJOR, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANNA CALL MAJOR, UH, FEATURES OF THE SITE, INCLUDING THE STRUCTURE ITSELF AS WELL AS, UM, COUNTY, UM, OR ADJACENT COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO THERE IS A COUNTY BOOSTER STATION AS I MENTIONED, WHICH YOU CAN SEE OVER THERE IN THE REAR OF THE SITE PLAN.
THERE'S A PARKING AREA THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
A SIX VEHICLE DISPLAY AREA, A SHOWROOM, A VEHICLE SERVICE AREA, PARKING DECK, AN OUTDOOR DISPLAY AREA, AND A DRIVE AISLE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND I WILL MENTION THAT, UM, THERE WE GO.
THIS DRIVE AISLE IS RIGHT HERE AT THE GLAND HENRICO COUNTY LINE.
SO THIS IMAGE IS FOR REFERENCE ONLY.
AGAIN, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS IN THE CENTERVILLE OVERLAY DISTRICT, AS DOES THE APPLICANT.
SO ANY FINAL ELEVATIONS, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THE LOOK, FEEL, HAVE TO GO THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE AND GET APPROVAL.
BUT THIS IS A ROUGH, UM, RENDERING OF HOW THE SHOWROOM COULD LOOK AND FEEL.
THE VEHICLE DISPLAY AREAS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSED AS A LAYOUT AS WELL AS THE VEHICLE SERVICE AREA, WHICH IS GOING, WHICH IS INTENDED TO SERVICE AS PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE AND GENERAL REPAIR AND A THREE STORY PARKING GARAGE.
I MENTIONED BEFORE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND I WANNA DIVE INTO THAT A LITTLE MORE.
AS I SAID, THERE WAS A BOOSTER STATION.
THERE'S FLOODPLAIN AS WELL AS A UTILITY EASEMENT FOR HENRICO THAT BISECTS THE SITE.
THERE'S ALSO VERY CHALLENGING TOPO FEATURES OR TOPOGRAPHIC FEATURES.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN, UM, VERY ACCOMMODATING AND WORKING TO ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
ENSURING FOR ONE, THAT THE COUNTY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO OUR BOOSTER STATION, THAT IT'LL BE SCREENED, UM, WORKING WITH HENRICO COUNTY ON A UTILITY AGREEMENT FOR SERVICES.
UH, ALSO MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE MEETING ANY OF OUR, UM, STORM WATER AND BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES WITH WORKING NEAR A FLOODPLAIN.
SO THE BUFFER DEVIATION IS SOMETHING THAT HAS COME UP THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
I DID MENTION THAT THE DRY VIAL SEEN HERE BY THE RED ARROW, THERE'S A 30 FOOT BUFFER ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS TYPICALLY REQUIRED.
THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A PROFFER CON, UM, PROFFERED CONDITION, UM, THAT ALLEVIATES THIS.
TYPICALLY THIS CAN BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY, HOWEVER THE APPLICANT WANTS TO HAVE IT AS A PROFFERED CONDITION.
UM, THE PROPERTY AT THE ADJACENT SIDE OF THE HENRICO COUNTY LINE IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE IS VERY LITTLE BUFFER ON THE HENRICO COUNTY LINE THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED ON THEIR END OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
ALSO, IT'S IMPORTANT TO STATE THAT PER SECTION 15 DASH THREE 80, IF THE PROPERTY'S TOPOGRAPHY CONFIGURATION OR OTHER UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES PREVENT FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS THE 30 FOOT BUFFER, THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MAY APPROVE DEVIATIONS, WHICH I JUST BRIEFLY TOUCHED ON.
NOW, I WILL ALSO REITERATE, UM, WITH REGARDS TO THAT BUFFER, THAT DRIVE ALL HERE WAS ACTUALLY SHOWN IN THE 2015 REZONING THAT WAS DONE FOR THE MEMORY CARE FACILITY.
SO THAT DEVIATION WAS ALREADY PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, UM, PROPOSED PREVIOUSLY ON THE SITE.
AS DISCUSSED, THIS IS PART OF THE CENTERVILLE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
I ALLUDED TO IT EARLIER, BUT AGAIN, FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL, THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WE'LL CONSIDER AT MINIMUM, AS I MENTIONED, BUILDING DESIGN, BUILDING MATERIALS, PARKING AREA, ORIENT ORIENTATION OF BAY DOORS ON TRANSPORTATION, WHERE WE'VE ALSO HAD SOME CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT JUST THE TRAFFIC OR ANY KIND OF CONFLICTS THAT THIS MIGHT CREATE.
A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WAS DONE, WHICH RECOMMENDS THE WIDENING OF BOTH ENTRANCES.
THE APPLICANT APPLICANT IS WORKING TO DO THAT.
THEY'RE ACTUALLY OFFERING A RIGHT TURN LANE AT THE WESTERN ENTRANCE, A ENTRANCE AND EXIT AT THE WESTERN ENTRANCE, AND AN ENTRANCE ONLY AT THE EASTERN ENTRANCE.
SO TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW TO THE SITE, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ONE E ENTRANCE THAT'S ONLY ENTRANCE AND TWO THAT ARE ENTRANCE EXIT.
BOTH ENTRANCES, HOWEVER, DO NOT MEET SPACING REQUIREMENTS FROM THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IN HENRICO COUNTY.
HOWEVER, GIVEN THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE AND THE LAYOUT, VDOT HAS ACTUALLY PROVIDED A SPACING WAIVER AND APPROVED IT FOR EACH ENTRANCE.
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AND I WILL MENTION THAT VDOT ALSO APPROVED THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND REVIEWED THAT AS WELL IN ADDITION TO OUR COUNTY ENGINEER.UM, JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT YOU ALL DO HAVE SOME BLACKLINE PROFFERS UP BEFORE YOU ALL ON THE DAIS.
SO AS I GO INTO THIS, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PROFFER CHANGES SINCE THE SEPTEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
THERE'S A NEW CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT SHOWS A WIDER ENTRANCES PER THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THE REMOVAL OF SALE SALES OR RENTAL OF WATERCRAFT MOTORCYCLES AND INDUSTRIAL TRUCKS.
PROFFER SUMMARY, YOU KNOW, GOING OVER THE USES AND CONDITIONS PLANS FOR BOTH 2015 APPROVED USES AND CAR DEALERSHIP SIGNAGE DETAILS COMPLYING WITH OUR ZONING ORDINANCE WITH REGARDS TO SIGNAGE SCREENING OF HVAC AND DUMPSTERS RIGHT TURN LANE AT THE WESTERN ENTRANCE.
REDUCTION OF THE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS ON THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE AND THE DRY ALL THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH 2015.
A SUMMARY OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CONDITIONS.
UM, THIS IS ONLY ADDRESSING THE CAR DEALERSHIP USE, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
UM, IT'S PERMITTING THE CAR DEALERSHIP USE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CONDITIONS DEVELOP IN GENERAL ACCORDANCE WITH THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WHICH THEY ARE PROFFERING, NO CONDITIONAL USE PERMITT ACTIVITY WITHOUT AN APPROVED PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT AND A CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL FROM THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS IN OUR OVERLAY.
DISTRICT VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AND ACCESSORY SERVICE MUST BE IN AN ENCLOSED BUILDING.
SO NO OPEN AIR, YOU KNOW, CAR WORK, VEHICLE DISPLAY AND INVENTORY IS LIMITED TO A SHOWROOM.
AND SIX DESIGNATED AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK SHOWN IN THE EXHIBIT A, WHICH IS THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
THAT IS PROFFERED LIMITED HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 7:00 AM TO 9:00 PM WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH, UM, THE OPERATING HOURS OF CAR DEALERSHIPS.
NO OUTSIDE STORAGE OF PARTS AND SUPPLIES.
FOLLOW ALL LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS.
FENCING AND LANDSCAPING AROUND THE COUNTY BOOSTER STATION, WHICH WAS COVERED A LITTLE EARLIER AND COMPLY WITH COUNTY LIGHTING AND SIGN REGULATION.
AND THE STANDARD TRANSFER OF, UM, LEASE, UH, AS IS OUR STANDARD CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CONDITION THAT SHOULD THE PROPERTY TRANSFER CHANGE HANDS, THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE NOTIFIED IN WRITING AND THE PROPERTY OWNER TRANSFERRING OWNERSHIP HAS TO NOTIFY THE NEXT NEW OWNERS OF CONDITIONS AND ALL OF THE ALLOWABLE USES A COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD FOR, UM, SP REAL ESTATE HOLDINGS, LLC FOR THIS HONDA DEALERSHIP ON JANUARY 27TH OF THIS YEAR.
THERE WERE 11 ATTENDEES, QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD INCLUDED VEHICLES ENTERING AND EXITING ON BROAD STREET ROAD, THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE.
LITTLE IM POTENTIAL IMPACT ON LITTLE TUCKAHOE CREEK, HOW THEY WOULD MEET THE REGULATIONS OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE APPEARANCE OF THE PARKING DECK.
OTHER CITIZEN INPUT THAT WE'VE RECEIVED ARE EMAILS CONCERNED WITH THE REPRESENTATION OF THE HEIGHT OF THE PARKING DECK, THE TRAFFIC STUDY NUMBERS, AND RETAINING THE RURAL FUEL HEIGHT OF THE DEALERSHIP BUFFER AND OVERALL APPEARANCE.
JUST A LITTLE HISTORY ON THIS CASE, IT HAS BEEN BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TWICE.
THAT IS BECAUSE THE FIRST TIME IT WAS HEARD THE REZONING ACTUALLY HAD A TIE VOTE, WHICH MEANT THAT THEY DEFERRED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT VOTE.
SO IT WAS ACTUALLY HEARD ON SEPTEMBER 7TH BY THE FULL PLANNING COMMISSION AND APPROVED ON A THREE TWO VOTE FOR THE REZONING AND A THREE TWO VOTE FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT THE SEPTEMBER 7TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, FIVE CITIZENS SPOKE IN OPPOSITION, NOTING CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED BUFFER TRAFFIC AND OVERALL LAYOUT OF THE SITE.
UM, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE BOARD MAY HOLD ONE PUBLIC HEARING FOR BOTH OF THESE CASES, BUT THE REZONING MUST BE VOTED ON PRIOR TO THE CONDITIONAL USE.
ANY QUESTIONS, MS. LAST COLETTE? OKAY.
SO WE'VE HAD THIS QUESTION COME UP BEFORE, SO MAYBE WE CAN ALL REMEMBER THE ANSWER TO IT, WHAT WE SAID BEFORE.
SO UNDER THE PERMITTED USES THE DEFINITION OF AUTOMOBILE VERSUS MOTOR VEHICLE? YES MA'AM.
I WILL DEFER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY ON THAT.
REFER TO FRIEND AUTOMOBILE GENERALLY IS DESCRIBED AS A PERSONAL PASSENGER VEHICLE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE STRIKING THE INDUSTRIAL, UH, TRUCKS, BUT LEAVING IN MOTOR VEHICLES, MAYBE WHEN THE APPLICANT GETS UP WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
JUST WANNA BE SURE WE UNDERSTAND WHAT TYPE OF VEHICLES, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.
AND THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION THIS EVENING.
THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE, I BELIEVE IS GONNA BE FOR THE APPLICANT, SO, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MR. HOPKINS? REAL QUICKLY, YOUR SLIDE 17 AND 1817.
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YES, SIR.WHEN YOU SAID STAFF MARKED THIS UP, I, I I THINK YOUR REST, THE REST OF YOUR PRESENTATION AND, AND MY ASSUMPTION IS THE MARKUPS ARE ONLY THE RED JUST TO YES, SIR.
AND THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE I'M, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IN OUR PACKET IS DIFFERENT IS THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT'S, SO YOU HAVEN'T COUNT WHAT YOU SHOWED US HASN'T CHANGED ANYTHING FROM WHAT EXCEPT THE RED MARKINGS.
NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN TERMS OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS OBLIGATED TO FOLLOW IN TERMS OF FOLLOWING THEIR CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
WE PUT THESE, UM, RED MARKINGS WITH ARROWS ON THE CONCEPTUAL TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE AUDIENCE AND QUITE FRANKLY, MYSELF 'CAUSE THAT THAT'S NEAR SCREEN'S A LITTLE DISTANCE.
I JUST, WHEN YOU SAID THE BROAD THING, WE MARKED IT UP SOME, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YES, WE MARKED IT UP TO BETTER INDICATE WHERE SPECIFIC FEATURES WERE AND AND THE NEXT SLIDE, I THINK YOU SAID RIGHT AT THE TOP, IT'S, IT'S IN, UH, FOR REFERENCE ONLY, THAT IS NOT PART OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS, UH, REPRESENTING AS PART OF A CONCEPTUAL PLAN, CORRECT? CORRECT.
UM, THIS IS FOR REFERENCE ONLY BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE HAS TO APPROVE THE FINAL LOOK, FEEL BUILDING MATERIALS SUCH, UM, OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
WELL, MAYBE WE CAN HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT TO WHAT EXTENT THAT THEY'RE REPRESENTING THAT THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE.
CAN UM, MR. BRODERS, I JUST WANNA PUT THIS ON THE RECORD.
UM, CAN YOU CONFIRM THIS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT EAST OF 2 88? YES.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT, HOLD ON.
I'M READY TO GET A COMPASS WHERE THIS IS LOCATED.
IT IS EAST OF THE 2 88 INTERCHANGE IMMEDIATELY AT THE HENRICO GLAND LINE.
SO, AND THIS, THIS MAY BE MORE EDUCATIONAL FOR MYSELF, BUT WE'RE TALKING, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A PROFFER TO REMOVE A BUFFER.
WOULD THAT NOT BE MORE OF AN EXTENSION OR A WAIVER? PROFFERS TO ME, AND AGAIN, MAYBE THIS IS JUST A NEW SITUATION.
PROFFERS TO ME ARE THEY'RE OFFERING STUFF FOR US.
UM, TYPICALLY THAT IS HOW THEY WORK.
THE APPLICANT SOUGHT THAT TO BE A PROFFERED CONDITION SO THAT AT THE TIME THAT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT MAY NOT, UM, COME UP FOR ANOTHER APPLICATION, IT WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET, UM, A WAIVER FOR.
SO THEY WANT IT IN PERPETUITY FOR WHILE THEY HAVE THE SITE IN THEIR OPERATION.
SO THEY DIDN'T WANT SOMETHING THAT WAS ADMINISTRATIVE THAT COULD BE OVERRIDDEN LATER BY A FUTURE DIRECTOR.
SO WE COULD GET A NEW, UM, DIRECTOR 10 YEARS FROM NOW AND THEN THAT CHANGES.
IN ADDITION, UM, MR. SPOON HARWELL, MUCH OF MY, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORK HAS BEEN UNDER THE IDEA THAT PROFFERS HAVE TO BE MORE THAN WHAT THE ZONING AD AND ORDINANCE REQUIRES.
THERE WAS A VIRGINIA SUPREME COURT CASE JUST IN RECENT YEARS THAT SAID, OH NO, THEY COULD BE ANYTHING.
SO THAT HAS CHANGED TO KNOW RELATIVELY RECENTLY.
SO I HAD TO TURN MY MIND AROUND ON THAT REGULARLY.
AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE THAT, THE OTHER THING THAT I JUST WANTED TO BRING UP IS THAT, UM, IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, THEY WOULD CONFORM WITH, YOU KNOW, THE SIGNAGE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE APPLICANT'S AWARE THAT, UH, BY ORDINANCE, THAT THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ELECTRONIC SIGNS AT THIS TIME BECAUSE, UM, AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION AND THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO US IF THEY DID WANT TO USE SOME SORT OF ELECTRONIC SIGN.
I WILL LET THE APPLICANT, UM, RESPOND TO THAT.
BUT YES, THE COUNTY AT THIS TIME HAS ONLY APPROVED IN OUR OVERLAY DISTRICT ONE ELECTRONIC MESSAGE BOARD.
WITH THE, OH, MR. PETERSON, THIS CHAIR.
UM, IN THAT, TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT PROFFER, IT WAS FIVE FOOT OF BUFFER, IT'S 30 FEET.
THE PROFFERED CONDITION WAS, READ IT HERE, UH, LANDSCAPING AND BUFFER AT LEAST FIVE FEET ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.
SO IT WAS A FIVE FOOT BUFFER ON AN EASTERN PROPERTY LINE.
THERE WILL BE A FIVE FOOT BUFFER.
NOW, UM, PREVIOUSLY THAT BUFFER WAS ALSO SOMETHING THAT WAS CO CARE CONSISTENT WITH, UM, THE MEMORY CARE AND THEIR REZONING IN 2015.
SO THAT LANE THAT GOES BY AND THE FIVE FOOT BUFFER WERE BOTH PART OF THE PREVIOUS CASE? YES.
I JUST WANNA CONFIRM THE FIVE FOOT WAS THE BUFFER.
ON THE HENRICO SIDE, THE OTHER COUNTY SIDE, WHAT IS THEIR BUFFER ON THEIR DEVELOPMENT? IT IS MINIMAL.
UM, I WILL DEFER TO MS. SHERRY, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THE EXACT FOOTAGE.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT FOOTAGE.
I HAVE VISITED THE SITE AND I'VE LOOKED AT THEIR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
IT APPEARS TO BE, UM, A STRIP OF, UM, LANDSCAPING THAT IS JUST PERIMETER
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PARKING, LANDSCAPING, SO A FEW STREET TREES AS WELL AS MAYBE 10, 15 FEET OF GRASS.CAN, CAN YOU PUT UP THE SAME MARKED UP MAP THAT YOU HAD UP BEFORE? YES, SIR.
UH, THAT'S A TECHNICAL, TECHNICAL DEFINITION.
I THINK, DID YOU PASS IT ALREADY? YEAH, YEAH.
WE GOTTA BACK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE.
NOW, UM, YOU, THE AUDIENCE ISN'T EXPECTED TO READ THIS, BUT THERE'S A FIVE RIGHT HERE, AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THAT FIVE WAS A FIVE FOOT BUFFER ON THE OTHER SIDE OR NOT? NO, THAT FIVE FOOT BUFFER WILL BE ON THE COUNTY GLAND COUNTY SIDE.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIVE FOOT ON OUR SIDE.
EVEN THOUGH THE FIVE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE LINE.
UM, THE SECOND QUESTION THEN HAD TO DO WITH, UH, THIS IS GONNA BE A DIFFERENT SLIDE.
UM, THE EASEMENT FOR THE, UM, WATER AND SEWER, UM, THERE WAS A, I THINK IT WAS A YELLOW LINE THAT CAME NOT THE PUMP STATION ITSELF, BUT THE, UH, THE BLUE, OH YEAH, THERE WAS THE, THE BLUE UTILITY EASEMENT.
UM, AS I UNDERSTAND, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THIS PROPERTY, WHICH, WHICH THERE ARE MANY, UM, WAS THE FACT THAT THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE FROM BOTH COUNTIES KIND OF CRISSCROSSING? YES, SIR.
COULD YOU GIVE ME AN UPDATE VERY QUICKLY ON THE HENRICO INVOLVEMENT IN THOSE ENTANGLEMENTS? UM, YES SIR.
I WOULDN'T CALL THEM ENTANGLEMENTS ACTUALLY.
UM, PER OUR MASTER UTILITY AGREEMENT THAT WE, UM, ADOPTED IN 2002 WITH HENRICO COUNTY, WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN EXECUTED UTILITY AGREEMENT FOR THIS SITE, UM, TO ENSURE THAT TYPICALLY WHEREVER YOU HAVE THE CLOSEST LINE TO TIE INTO IS WHERE YOU WILL CONNECT.
SO WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH HENRICO THAT PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALONG THAT LINE, WHOEVER HAS THE LINE CLOSEST, WHETHER IT'S GLAND OR HENRICO, UM, THEY TIE INTO AND CONNECT.
AND THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY HENRICO COUNTY.
AND AGAIN, THIS PROPERTY WILL PAY, UM, THE T-C-D-T-S-T-C-S-D AD VALOREM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT MIGHT TYING INTO HENRICO.
SO WE HAVE, BECAUSE THE, SORRY, THE, UM, TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT IS TIED TO THE PARCEL.
SO WE KINDA HAVE A MUTUAL AGREEMENT THAT THE CLOSER OF, AND THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.
THERE'S NO FURTHER AGREEMENTS NECESSARY TO NO, SIR.
THAT'S THE UPDATE I WAS LOOKING FOR, SO THANK YOU.
THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD.
JUST RIGHT CLICK, RIGHT CLICK, JUST RIGHT CLICK.
AND THEN DO, UM, DO WHAT START? I JUST USE THIS, YES, THAT'S FORWARD ADVANCE AND THIS IS THE HIGHLIGHTER.
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME'S MIKE ROTHERMELL.
I'M AN ATTORNEY WITH SPOTS VEIN, UM, HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
WE HAVE LOTS OF VISUALS TONIGHT, UM, BECAUSE WE KNEW THERE WERE LOTS OF QUESTIONS.
SO WE, WE HAVE WHAT I THINK, UM, ARE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS.
BEFORE I START THOUGH, UM, TWO ADMINISTRATIVE, UH, THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL, DEPENDING ON WHAT'S SET IN OPPOSITION TONIGHT.
UH, AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE TEAM THAT I HAVE WITH HERE, WITH, WITH ME HERE TONIGHT.
UM, BECAUSE ANTICIPATING THE QUESTIONS, I WANTED THE EXPERTS TO BE HERE.
SO SITTING WITH ME, UH, JOEY WONG, UM, WOULD BE THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF THE HONDA, UH, DEALERSHIP.
SITTING NEXT TO HIM IS, UH, BILL KEEL.
HE IS WITH RAINIER CONSTRUCTION.
UH, HE'D BE THE, UH, CONSTRUCTION PROJECT MANAGER, UH, FOR THE SITE, UH, BACK IN THE ROW BEHIND THEM.
CARL REN IS WITH GROVE SLADE, HE'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER, UM, WORKING, UH, WITH US.
UM, HE'S, HE, HIM AND HIS GROUP HAVE PUT TOGETHER SOME REALLY GOOD, UM, AS REALISTIC AS YOU CAN GET RENDERINGS, UH, FOR WHAT WE THINK THIS SITE'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
UH, AND THEN NEXT TO DAVE IS, UM, MATT HAMILTON WITH CBRE.
I JUST WANNA GIVE YOU JUST A, A, A LAYOUT OUT OF HOW SURE YOU CONDUCT THIS, JUST SO IT MIGHT HELP YOUR PRESENTATION.
SO YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO PRESENT.
THE BOARD WILL ASK YOU QUESTIONS, THEN WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT, THAT COMES UP AFTER THAT.
THEN THE BOARD WILL DELIBERATE AFTER A MOTION.
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OKAY.I MUST STATE THAT BY ACCIDENT.
SO LET ME, UM, LEMME SEE IF I CAN SCROLL UP HERE TO HOW DO I, JAMIE, HOW DO I GET TO THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESENTATION? THERE'S A CHANCE YOU MIGHT NEED TO DO THE UP DOWN BUTTON.
HOW DID YOU EXIT? FULL SCREEN? IT'S IN FULL SCREEN.
HOW ABOUT THIS, MIKE? IT'S NOT LETTING ME ZOOM IN.
THERE'S THE ONLY TWO THAT ARE SMALL.
IF THE, IF THE FIRST TWO ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT ARE SMALL, THAT'S FINE.
SO THE, THE, THE FIRST SLIDE IS, UM, ACTUALLY, UM, SOMETHING THAT JAMIE OR, OR, UM, CRYSTAL HAD IN HER PRESENTATION.
SO I WANNA EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT THIS, THIS SITE IS NOT JUST EAST OF 2 88.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THE FEW PARCELS THAT'S ON, YOU KNOW, THAT SIDE OF TUCKAHOE CREEK, UM, RIGHT ON THE COUNTY LINE.
SO, UM, SOME OF THE PEOPLE WE'VE TALKED TO AND MET WITH OVER THE COURSE, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SITE FOR OVER A YEAR NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THOUGHT THE THOUGHT THE SITE WAS IN HENRICO BECAUSE IT'S ON THIS SIDE OF, OF, OR ON THE EAST SIDE OF TUCKO CREEK.
UM, THE, THE, THE SECOND SLIDE THERE, WHICH IS A LITTLE SMALL, UM, BUT IT SHOWS ALL THE SURROUNDING USERS.
SO IF YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREEN THERE, THE PROPOSED HONDA SITE IS SHOWN WITH A BLUE STAR.
UM, JUST ACROSS THE STREET YOU HAVE, UM, ALDI AND CVS ON THE HENRICO SIDE.
AND THEN YOU MOVE INTO HENRICO, UH, I'M SORRY, YOU MOVE INTO GLAND AND YOU HAVE VALVOLINE, TOMMY'S CAR WASH, UM, CHICK-FIL-A WAWA, UH, MR. PAGE'S AUDI DEALERSHIP, UH, DRIVE SHACK ARE ALL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, SO THIS, WE FEEL LIKE THIS FITS IN REAL NICE WITH, UM, WHAT IS ALREADY EXISTING EAST OF 2 88.
UM, AS I MOVE DOWN HERE TO THE, UM, THE LATER SLIDES.
SO I WANTED TO, TO HIGHLIGHT THE CONSTRAINTS OF THIS SITE.
THIS IS A REALLY DIFFICULT SITE TO DEVELOP.
IT'S, IT'S A GREAT SITE FROM, FROM A LOCATION PERSPECTIVE, UH, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT, UM, CHALLENGING SITE, I SHOULD SAY, FROM, FROM A DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.
WHAT, UH, BILL AND HIS GROUP HAVE DONE IS, IS SORT OF HIGHLIGHTED THIS, THE, THE HIGHLIGHTED RED, UH, UM, LINE THAT GOES THROUGH THERE IS THE HENRICO COUNTY SANITARY SEWER EASEMENT.
SO THAT OBVIOUSLY AFFECTS THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT.
WE CAN'T PUT ANYTHING, ANY BUILDING OR PERMANENT STRUCTURE ON TOP OF THAT SEWER EASEMENT.
UH, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A TRUNK LINE, SO IT'S A WIDE EASEMENT.
UM, SO YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT REALLY RESTRICTS THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT, UH, ON THIS SITE.
AND THEN OF COURSE TO THE NORTH OF THAT YOU HAVE THE, UM, THE COUNTY'S PUMP STATION.
SO, UM, FROM A, AGAIN, FROM A DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, IT, IT WAS KIND OF CHALLENGING AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS OVER THE PAST YEAR, BACK AND FORTH, AND REALLY GETTING INTO SITE PLAN ISSUES.
WE, WE'VE SORT OF MOVED BEYOND THE ZONING ISSUES, UM, NOT, WE HAVEN'T MOVED BEYOND THEM IN THE SENSE THAT WE, WE ARE RESPECTFUL AND UNDERSTAND, UM, THAT THE BOARD HAS THE ULTIMATE DECISION IN THAT.
BUT GIVEN THE TIMELINE AND, AND FRANKLY WHAT HAPPENED IN 2015, THE APPLICANT CAME IN, GOT THE ZONING APPROVALS, UM, BUT COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SITE.
UM, SO WHAT WE'VE DONE, AND IT WAS REALLY AT THE REQUEST OF STAFF, WAS TO LOOK AT SOME OF THESE SITE PLAN ISSUES TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS SITE COULD WORK, UM, FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE HAVE GOTTEN INTO, UM, UH, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SPECIFIC ENGINEERING AND, AND SITE DESIGN ISSUES.
UM, IF I CAN HERE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS JUST SHOWS, UM, YOU KNOW, OUTLINED IN RED IS, IS THE AREA THAT WOULD BE DISTURBED AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS SHOWN IN GREED AND WOULD BE NON DISTURBED AREAS.
UM, AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE LAYOUT PLAN.
UM, SO, AND THE CRYSTAL COVERED THIS, SO, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, RECEPTION AND SHOWROOM IN THE FRONT, UM, SERVICE AREA SORT OF BEHIND THAT.
AND THEN, UM, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, UH, ABOUT THE PARKING DECK, BUT I WILL, YOU KNOW, I WILL TELL YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PARKING DECK AND THAT'S BEEN A BIG FOCUS, UH, OF, YOU KNOW, THE BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM THE, YOU KNOW, A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE.
I MEAN, WE WOULD ARGUE AND, AND SUGGEST THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE, THE DECK IS, IS PREFERABLE.
YOU DON'T HAVE A SORT OF A SEA OF SURFACE PARKING WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, TONS OF IMPERVIOUS, UH, PAVEMENT, UH, THAT, THAT'S NEEDED TO HOUSE INVENTORY.
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WILL SAY THAT THE, THE PARKING DECK IS NOT A CONCESSION TO MY CLIENT.THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG TICKET ITEM.
UM, I THINK BILL KEMMEL WILL SAY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AN EIGHT TO $10 MILLION PARKING DECK.
UM, AND WE THINK THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY AN ATTRACTIVE FEATURE OF THIS SITE SORT OF SORT OF REDUCING THE FOOTPRINT, UM, YOU KNOW, OF, OF AN AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIP, WHICH WOULD NORMALLY SORT OF BE A, UM, BE, BE A SPRAWLING FEATURE OF THE SITE.
UM, THE DECK IS THREE STORIES.
THE PROPOSED DECK IS THREE STORIES THAT IS, UH, LOWER IN TOTAL HEIGHT THAN THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN RECO SIDE, UH, WHICH IS FOUR STORIES.
UM, AND IT, AND FRANKLY IT MAKES THE SITE WORK, UM, THE PARKING DECK.
SO, UH, LET ME MOVE INTO SOME OF THE RENDERINGS NOW.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, DAVE CALLED AND HIS GROUP AT CHAR PUT THESE TOGETHER.
SO THIS IS JUST, UM, SORT OF AN OVER AN OVERVIEW SITE, UH, AN OVERVIEW, UM, LAYOUT, SORT OF, EXCUSE ME, SHOWING THE SITE, UM, HOW IT LAYS OUT, UH, NEXT TO THE STANLEY MARTIN SITE.
AND THEN YOU'LL SEE SOME NUMBERS ON THE, UM, ON THE, THE DRAWING THERE THAT, UH, ARE GONNA MATCH UP WITH THE RENDERINGS.
I'M GONNA POINT TO NOW THIS NEXT, THIS NEXT SLIDE, UM, WAS JUST TO, UH, JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA AS FAR AS THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL ON THE HENRICO SIDE, UM, AND HOW THAT IS ORIENTED.
'CAUSE THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, WELL, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA BE LOOKING AT? AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE, THE FRONT SECTIONS, UM, UH, THAT ARE CLOSER TO BROAD STREET ARE ORIENTED NORTH AND SOUTH.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THERE, I GUESS ARE TWO END UNITS, UH, ONE ON EACH OF THOSE CLUSTER OF BUILDINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD HAVE SOME WINDOWS, UM, SORT OF LOOKING OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER TO, TO THE AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIP.
AND THEN THE, UM, THE, THE, THE UNITS THAT ARE MORE TO THE SOUTH, MORE TO THE REAR OF THEIR SITE, UM, ARE ACTUALLY ORIENTED.
THE, THE FRONT, UM, OF THOSE, UM, UNITS ARE AWAY FROM OUR SITE.
UM, AND AS YOU'LL NOTICE THAT BACK AREA OF OUR, OUR PROPOSED SITE, UM, WOULD, WOULD REMAIN LARGELY, UM, UNDISTURBED.
UM, DAVE'S GRIP REALLY DID A, A NICE JOB I THINK OF, OF, UH, MAKING THESE AS REALISTIC AS POSSIBLE.
UM, YOU'LL NOTICE HERE THAT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE IS, SO THERE, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THE ADJACENT SITE, THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, THE, THE, THE FRONTAGE ALONG BROAD STREET ON THAT SITE WAS APPROVED.
I, I'M UNDER MY UNDERSTANDING, AND JAMIE CAN CORRECT THIS, THAT'S ALL NON-RESIDENTIAL.
UM, SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN HENRICO.
UM, NOT ALL THAT DISSIMILAR FROM, FROM WEST BROAD VILLAGE OR GREENGATE, RIGHT UP THE STREET WHERE YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL MIXED IN WITH COMMERCIAL AND OTHER NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD SUGGEST WE, WE SORT OF FIT RIGHT IN.
UM, AND AGAIN, THI THIS SITE WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL, UM, BACK IN 2015.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN B ONE BEFORE THAT, I DON'T KNOW.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN ZONED COMMERCIAL FOR 2015.
SO IT WAS ZONED COMMERCIAL WITH AN APPROVED, UH, SORT OF CONCEPT PLAN AND, AND DRIVE AISLE RIGHT NEXT TO IT WHEN THE ADJACENT SITE GOT DEVELOPED.
UM, SO THAT DIDN'T, THAT DIDN'T STOP THEM FROM COMING IN AT THAT POINT.
UM, THIS ONE SHOWS THE, UH, COUNTY'S BOOSTER STATION, UM, TO THE WEST OF THE PROPOSED HONDA DEALERSHIP.
UM, YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, YOU CAN SEE MY POINTER ON YOUR SCREENS, BUT SO TH THIS PAD SITE, UM, IS IN HENRICO AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING TO BE GOING THERE, BUT IT'S, UM, NON-RESIDENTIAL, I BELIEVE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S ALONG BROAD STREET.
BUT THIS SORT OF GIVES A PERSPECTIVE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, A VIEW FROM THE SITE FROM, I GUESS THIS WOULD BE THE NORTHEAST.
UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OTHER THING, UH, THE, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, I, I THINK OF, OF MISS ONUS ABOUT THESE RENDERINGS AND HOW REALISTIC ARE THEY? UM, WE HAVE NOT PROFFERED ANY OF THE ELEVATIONS OR THE RENDERINGS ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, SO WE CAN'T BE STUCK WITH PROFFERS OF ELEVATIONS THAT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WANTS TO TWEAK.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD MEAN WE WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T, UM, WE HAVEN'T PROFFERED ANY OF THESE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK JOEY WOULD TELL YOU THAT, UM, THE, THE ARCHITECTS HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS, PUTTING THESE TOGETHER.
UM, AND, AND EVERY INTENT IS THAT, THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE WHAT, WHAT IT ULTIMATELY LOOKS LIKE.
UH, THIS NEXT RENDERING IS FROM BROAD STREET.
YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THERE IS A, UM, FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT, UM, YOU KNOW, GRADE ISSUE HERE,
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ELEVATION, THAT, UM, THE SITE WILL BE SOMEWHAT ELEVATED FROM BROAD STREET.UH, 'CAUSE ONE OF THE ISSUES WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE, UH, CENTERVILLE, UH, OVERLAY DISTRICT, OR I GUESS IT'S THE VILLAGE VILLAGE OVERLAY, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING RELIEF FOR, WHICH IS, UM, SIMILAR TO THE RELIEF THAT WAS GRANTED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, I BELIEVE FOR TOMMY'S AND VALVOLINE, JAMIE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT ARE BAY DOORS, UH, FOR THE SERVICE AREA FACE FORWARD.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA NEED TO SEEK RELIEF FROM THAT.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF BUFFERING AND SCREENING, UH, FOR THE SITE JUST FROM A NATURAL TOPOGRAPHY STANDPOINT.
BUT THEN THESE, THE, THE LANDSCAPING AND THE TREES AND THE SHRUBS THAT ARE SHOWN IN HERE, UM, ACTUALLY MATCH WHAT I BELIEVE WHAT WE'VE SHOWN ALREADY SHOWN ON THE LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT WE'VE SORT OF SUBMITTED FOR JUST EARLY COMMENTS IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH, UH, TO GET APPROVAL TONIGHT AND MOVE FORWARD TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, HERE'S JUST ANOTHER, UM, RENDERING, UH, SORT OF, AGAIN, EXCUSE ME, LOOKING FROM STREET LEVEL FROM THE NORTHEAST, UM, SHOWING THE SITE HERE.
UM, AND THEN THESE ARE, THESE ARE SOME ELEVATIONS THAT, THAT, UM, DAVE'S GROUP HAVE HAS PUT TOGETHER AS WELL.
THESE ARE WHAT WE WOULD BE PRESENTING TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UM, AGAIN, WE HAVEN'T PROFFERED THESE BECAUSE THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MAY HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THEM AND WE MAY NEED TO, TO ALTER THEM, BUT WE HAVE, UH, JOEY AND AND HIS DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAVE PUT A LOT OF TIME, UH, THEY'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS, UM, THE COUNTY, UM, OTHER, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, WEST CREEK, UM, ABOUT GETTING SOME COMMENTS ON WHAT THIS BUILDING, WHAT THE PARKING DECK SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, AND SO THIS, THIS TAKES INTO ACCOUNT ALL OF THAT.
UM, THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SHOWING SOME BUILDING MATERIALS HERE, UM, THAT, THAT THEY WOULD USE.
AGAIN, WE, WE WOULD TAKE THESE TO THIS TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
THESE ARE NOT, UH, IN ANY WAY, UH, DISSIMILAR, UM, OR DIFFERENT THAN I BELIEVE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE USES ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, HAD TO, TO GO INTO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AND ASK FOR PERMISSION TO USE.
SO, UM, SO LET ME, IF I CAN MOVE INTO, UM, SOME OF, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE, UM, RENDERINGS, I WANNA MOVE INTO TRAFFIC.
UM, 'CAUSE THAT WAS, THAT WAS AN ISSUE AND, AND, UM, THE SOURCE OF A LOT OF QUESTIONS HERE.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN, CAN I RECENTER THIS? GOOD QUESTION.
THIS WORKED OUT PERFECTLY WELL ON MY COMPUTER TODAY.
IS THAT THE RIGHT ONE YOU WANNA SEE? I JUST, I JUST SCROLLED UP AND DOWN WITH THIS MIKE.
SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A NUMBER OF EXHIBITS HERE.
UM, I, I GUESS I CAN'T JUST CLICK AND DRAG, BUT I, YOU'RE TRYING TO GO UP OR DOWN? I I THINK I, I THINK I CAN MAKE THIS WORK.
SO WE, WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER, UM, AND, AND THIS CARL HORAN WORKED WITH THE CIVIL ENGINEERS ON THESE FOUR, UM, NEXT SLIDES.
SO THESE ARE USING WHAT'S CALLED AN AUTO TURN PROGRAM THAT THE CIVIL ENGINEERS, UM, USE TO SHOW ACCESS TO THE SITE, UM, CIRCULATION AMONGST THE SITE.
UM, 'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, TO TRAFFIC AND, UH, VEHICLE MOVEMENTS BOTH IN AND AROUND THE SITE.
NOW, ONE THING I WANNA COMMENT ON SORT OF INITIALLY FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE IS THAT, UM, AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIPS, I THINK CARL HOL CRANE WILL TELL YOU IF YOU WANT HIM TO COME UP HERE, UM, ARE LOW TRAFFIC GENERATORS.
THEY ARE NOT, UM, CONVENIENCE STORES.
THEY'RE NOT SORT OF THOSE HIGH VOLUME RETAIL, UM, WHERE YOU'RE GENERATING A TON OF TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE CONSIDERED SORT OF LOW VOLUME.
UM, MOST OF THE QUESTION, AND I, I, I THINK THERE WAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT AT THE INITIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WERE POSED LAST TIME, UM, DEALT WITH, UH, TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE SITE.
SO WHAT, WHAT CARL WORKED WITH SILVER CORE ON PUTTING TOGETHER WITH THESE, UM, AUTO TURN EXHIBITS.
AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE, THE FIRST TWO ACTUALLY SHOW FIRE TRUCKS, UM, COMING IN AND OUTTA THE SITE AND MOVING AROUND THE SITE.
AND, UM, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THE, THE COUNTY'S FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD HAD SOME INPUT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, WE HAD LOTS OF MEETINGS ALREADY WITH, WITH VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY, AGAIN, TO MAKE SURE THIS SITE WORKS IF, IF WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET THE APPROVAL TONIGHT TO MAKE SURE THE SITE WOULD WORK.
UH, AND SO THE, THE COUNTY HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK.
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SAID, UH, I THINK WE WERE INITIALLY SHOWING A 24 FOOT WIDE DRIVE AISLE.THEY SAID WE NEED 26 FOR THE, FOR THE FIRE TRUCKS.
WE WIDENED THE DRIVE AISLE, AND WHAT THESE NEXT TWO EXHIBITS SHOW IS THAT FIRE TRUCKS, UM, CAN COME IN THE SITE AND GO ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING, UM, WITHOUT ANY ISSUES.
SO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR EXHIBIT SHOWS THE FIRETRUCK COMING IN THE EASTERN ENTRANCE, UM, AND MOVING AROUND THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THE NEXT, UH, VISUAL HERE, UM, SHOWS THE, UM, ONE MORE.
THIS ONE SHOWS THE FIRETRUCK COMING IN THE WESTERN, UM, ENTRANCE.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, IF A FIRETRUCK'S COMING TO THE SITE, IT'S, IT'S AN EMERGENCY OR, OR, YOU KNOW, UH, YEAH, A, A SHORT TIME FUS TYPE OF SITUATION.
YOU DON'T WANT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO USE THIS PARTICULAR ENTRANCE.
WHAT, WHAT THESE TWO EXHIBITS SHOW IS THAT, YOU KNOW, FIRETRUCK CAN COME, EITHER COME IN EITHER ACCESS POINT, GET ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING WITH, WITH NO ISSUE.
THE NEXT, UM, THE, UH, NEXT SLIDE SHOWS.
AND THIS, THIS WAS, UM, THIS SHOWS WHAT'S CALLED A LOWBOY TRAILER.
UM, WE WERE ASKED TO RUN THIS, UM, BY VDO.
UM, AND SO THAT'S THE VEHICLE THAT THEY WANTED US TO SHOW, UM, AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THE SITE.
AND SO WHAT THIS PARTICULAR, UM, UH, EXHIBIT SHOWS IS THAT A LOWBOY TRAILER CAN COME IN THAT, THAT EASTERN ENTRANCE AND MAKE ITS WAY AROUND THE BUILDING, UH, WITHOUT ANY ISSUE.
AND, UM, THE LAST EXHIBIT HERE, UH, MR. WILLIAMS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, UH, HAD SOME, SOME ISSUES, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH SORT OF AN EXTENDED CAR CARRIER, UM, WHETHER OR NOT IT COULD ACCESS THE SITE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BOTH, BOTH INGRESS AND EGRESS.
AND SO WE HAD THE, UM, WE HAD THE ENGINEERS RUN AUTO TURN FOR THAT PARTICULAR VEHICLE.
AND, UM, WHAT IT SHOWS IS THAT THE, THE, UM, CAR CARRIERS CAN COME IN THE EASTERN ENTRANCE.
AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS THEY, THESE CAR CARRIERS, IF, IF WE HAVE ONE COMING IN THIS BIG, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ALL, AND, AND, UH, MAYBE BILL CAN CAN TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT, UM, EVEN IF THIS LARGE ONE COMES IN, THEY WILL NOT BE CIRCULATING THE SITE.
THEY WILL BE COMING INTO THE SITE OFF OF BROAD STREET, UM, GETTING RID OF THE INVENTORY AND THEN EXITING THE SITE, UH, ON THE WESTERN SIDE HERE, UH, THROUGH THE WESTERN ENTRANCE.
UM, 'CAUSE THERE WAS, THERE WAS SOME ISSUE, UH, SOME QUESTIONS RAISED AT THE LAST MEETING.
WELL, CAN, CAN THIS, UM, TRUCK, UM, ACCESS THE SITE, UM, AND, AND, AND GET OUT WITHOUT TURNING INTO THE MIDDLE OR OUT OUTSIDE LANE OF VDOT, UH, OR OF, UH, BROAD STREET.
AND SO THIS DIAGRAM EXHIBIT, AND THIS IS A SORT OF A STANDARD, UM, AND, AND, UH, ACCEPTED, UM, PROGRAM THAT CIVIL ENGINEERS USE, UM, SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT ABSOLUTELY CAN.
ONE OTHER THING I SHOULD NOTE IS THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY LESS THAN ONE TRUCK A DAY.
UM, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, REMIND ME, 15 TO 20 CAR HAULERS A MONTH, 20 TO SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
SO I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN ONE A DAY ON AVERAGE.
UM, SO THIS IS NOT A STEADY STREAM OF BIG TRUCKS COMING INTO THE SITE.
UM, BUT THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE FEW THAT COME IN, UM, THAT THIS, THIS SITE CAN ACCOMMODATE.
ONE OTHER THING I I, I'VE FAILED TO NOTE AT, UM, ON ONE OF THE EARLIER SLIDES.
SO THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY SET BACK A HUNDRED FEET, UM, AS FAR AS A SETBACK, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY SET BACK MORE THAN THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE ACCOMMODATED, UM, YOU'LL, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THERE'S A, A NOTATION ON THIS PARTICULAR SLIDE THAT SAYS PROPOSED PROPERTY LINE RIGHT HERE.
SO VDOT HAS, UM, I I GUESS IDENTIFIED THAT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE BROAD STREET WOULD BE EXPANDED, UM, BY ADDING AN ADDITIONAL THROUGH LANE.
AND SO WE HAVE PLANNED FOR THAT, UM, WITH THIS BY SHOWING WHERE THE ULTIMATE, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OF WAY LINE WOULD BE.
AND WE'VE SET BACK FROM, FROM THAT ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY LINE.
SO AGAIN, LOTS OF PLANNING, NOT JUST FOR NOW, BUT, BUT IN THE FUTURE, UM, THESE, THESE SLIDES, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE ARE JUST SORT OF RESTATEMENTS OF WHAT WAS IN, UH, JAMIE'S SLIDE, UH, OR I'M SORRY, CRYSTAL'S SLIDES.
YOU KNOW, WE THINK THAT THIS IS A, UM, A PERFECT USE.
UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMP PLAN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXISTING ZONING, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ALREADY
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EXISTING USES, UH, ON THAT PARTICULAR SECTION OF BROAD STREET, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS SITE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL ALREADY.WE'RE SIMPLY ADDING ONE ADDITIONAL USE.
UM, THE THIS SITE IS CHALLENGING.
IT, IT TAKES A, A, A SPECIAL USE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO TO, TO JUSTIFY THE AMOUNT OF SITE WORK AND INVESTMENT THAT NEEDS TO GO INTO THE SITE, UM, IN ORDER TO, TO DEVELOP IT AND MAKE IT WORK.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE THINK IT, WE THINK IT HITS ALL OF THE POINTS THAT, THAT, UM, CRYSTAL WALKED THROUGH AS FAR AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND, AND THE PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, DESIGNATION.
AND SO I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE THINK THIS IS, IS A, IS A, A PERFECT USE FOR THIS, A GREAT USE FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE.
WE'VE GOTTEN INTO A LOT OF ISSUES HERE THAT ARE REALLY SITE PLAN ISSUES.
YOU KNOW, WE, IF, IF WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO, TO, TO BE APPROVED TONIGHT, UM, WE WILL BE COMING IN WITH OUR POD YOU KNOW, VERY SOON.
UM, THE COUNTY HAS THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON THE SITE PLAN.
IF, IF THERE NEEDS TO BE TWEAKS MADE TO TURNING RADIUSES ON, ON ACCESS POINTS OR, OR ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, UM, THOSE WILL BE, THOSE WILL BE ADDRESSED.
BUT WE'VE GOTTEN INTO MOST OF THAT ALREADY SIMPLY TO MAKE SURE THIS SITE WORKS FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE.
WE DON'T THINK THERE COULD BE ANY BETTER SITE.
BUT, AND, AND I WILL ALSO SAY, I THINK THE USE WE BELIEVE IS A GOOD ONE.
I THINK YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO GONNA BE GETTING A REALLY GOOD USER HERE.
UM, MY CLIENT, MR. WONG, WHO I'VE WORKED WITH NOW, UM, FOR OVER A YEAR, UM, WAS AWARDED THE SITE BY HONDA, UM, AFTER A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS AND A VERY, YOU KNOW, RIGOROUS VETTING, UM, PROCEDURE.
HE'S GOT A NUMBER OF OTHER DEALERSHIPS IN OHIO AND NEW YORK, UM, INCLUDING A NUMBER OF HONDA DEALERSHIPS.
HE'S BEEN AWARDED THE, THE PRESIDENT'S AWARD, UM, FROM HONDA, I THINK SIX OR SEVEN YEARS.
UM, HE'S GOT NUMEROUS COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARDS.
UM, HE, HE'S, HE, HE'S, HE KNOWS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BEING PART OF HIS COMMUNITY, UM, HE'D REALLY WELCOME AND, AND, UM, UH, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO LOCATE HERE IN GLAND.
SO WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I'VE GOT ALL THE, THE, THE EXPERTS HERE ON, ON OUR TEAM TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE BOARD ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? MS. LASETTE? OKAY.
JUST A COUPLE THINGS I'M BE SURE I'M TOTALLY CLEAR ON.
AND I BELIEVE THE QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT THE UTILITIES.
SO THERE IS AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE YOU HAVE TO DO.
YOU CAN HOOK UP TO THE, UM, HENRICO UTILITIES, IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? SO THAT THE, I I'LL DEFER TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
I, I WILL SAY THAT I WOULD PERSONALLY SAY WE'VE TALKED TO, WE'VE, UM, MET WITH AND TALKED WITH HENRICO UTILITIES ABOUT, UM, HOOKING TO THE SEWER LINE BECAUSE AGAIN, IN ORDER TO HOOK TO GLAND SEWER LINE, WE WOULD NEED TO SOMEHOW GET UNDER, UH, TUCKO CREEK.
'CAUSE I THINK THE NEAREST CONNECTIONS ON, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TUCKO CREEK, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED TO HENRICO, WE'VE MET WITH THEM.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE WOULD BE HOOKING TO, UM, UH, HENRICO, UH, SEWER AND GLAND WATER.
I JUST WANNA BE CRYSTAL CLEAR ON THAT.
UH, IF YOU DON'T MIND, MR. CHAIR, I HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS.
SO YOU TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PLANNED, UH, FOR BROAD STREET COMING OFF 2 88 THERE.
UM, AND YOU HAVE MADE PROVISIONS FOR RIGHT AWAY FOR THAT EXPANDED LANE.
WE'VE DESIGNED THE SITE, UM, AND BILL, BILL CAN, UM, TALK ABOUT THIS MORE SPECIFICALLY.
SO VDOT, AND IT WAS A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS WITH VDOT, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE WENT BACK AND FORTH YEAH, YOU HAVE TO TELL US
UM, BUT AT SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, I GUESS IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT THERE WAS, UH, A FUTURE PLAN TO WIDEN BROADTREE, PUT AN ADDITIONAL THROUGH LANE, UM, THROUGH, SO THE SITE WAS, WAS LAID OUT AND DESIGNED WITH THAT IN MIND.
SO, UM, DOES THIS FRANCHISE, UM, THIS PARTICULAR, UH, MANUFACTURER, AUTOMOBILE MANUFACTURER HAVE ANY DESIGN, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD AFFECT THE DESIGN OF THIS BUILDING? YEAH, I'M GONNA DEFER TO JOEY AND BILL, MAYBE IF YOU GUYS WANNA COME UP AND, AND DO WE SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH OUR DESIGN REVIEW? THAT'S PROBABLY A MULTI-PHASE QUESTION, SO HOPEFULLY WE WON'T RUN INTO AN ISSUE WITH THAT.
AND THEN I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION AFTER THIS.
BILL KIMMEL, UH, 1 9 4 5 7 BILL CHURCH ROAD, TICO, OHIO.
UM, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, UH, MANUFACTURERS DO HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR THEIR BUILDINGS.
SOME OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE, ESPECIALLY, UM, THE BLUE STAGE, UM, THAT'S WHAT THIS CURRENT GENERATION OF, UH, FOR HONDA FOR THEIR MANUFACTURING.
SO THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MEET TO MATCH THEIR BUILDINGS.
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BEEN SHARED WITH STAFF? SO WE KIND OF HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THERE, OR WHAT YOU SEE IS, IS FAIRLY REMINISCENT OF WHAT, UH, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE GOING IN FRONT OF FOR OUR COA IN FRONT OF THE DESIGN C OKAY.COMMITTEE REVIEW TO, TO REVIEW WITH THEM AND, AND GET, YOU KNOW, UH, MEET WITH THEM FOR APPROVAL.
THE ONLY THING I'D ADD TO THAT, AND MS. LAS COLLETTE IS, UM, AND I KNOW MR. PAGE IS HERE TONIGHT.
I, I THINK AUDI HAD TO DO THE SAME THING.
I THINK AUDI HAD CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS.
AND THEN I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
I DON'T KNOW WHO MIGHT WANT ANSWER THIS.
SO THIS ISSUE OF THE BEING ADJACENT TO THE HENRICO LINE, THE SETBACKS AND RETAINING WALLS, UM, AND I THINK MAYBE THE LAY OF THE LAND IS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION OF THE HENRICO PROJECT MAYBE IS, ARE THEY A LITTLE BIT LOWER, HIGHER? I MEAN, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF TOPOGRAPHY GOING ON HERE.
UH, IN GENERAL, THEY'RE ABOUT SIX FEET HIGHER IN ELEVATION THAN OUR SITE.
SO WE WILL HAVE A RETAINING WALL ALONG THE PROPERTY, LINE FIVE FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE FOR THAT SEPARATION.
AND, AND WE ARE NOT, UM, I GUESS WE'RE NOT SPECIFYING THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE RETAINING WALL, IS THAT JUST A MATTER OF ENGINEERING OR IT'S ENGINEERING? CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST US, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND PLEASE LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
MY NAME IS DEXTER WILLIAMS, UH, 2319 LATHAM PLACE.
UH, YOU'VE HEARD REFERENCE TO ME.
I SPOKE AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ABOUT THE TRUCKS.
AND UH, I CAN SAY THAT THE, IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, ADJUSTMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE AND SOME OTHER EXHIBITS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED.
SO I'LL GET TO MY STUFF THIS WAY NOW.
THINK YOU DOWN AT THE BOTTOM THERE.
THERE SHOULD GO LEFT, RIGHT? NOPE, WRONG.
ALRIGHT, SO THIS WOULD BE, MOVING FORWARD WOULD BE THE WHITE BUTTON ALL AND THIS WOULD BE MOVING BACK.
MM-HMM,
WELL THIS IS, UH, UH, ONE OF THE EXHIBITS THAT WAS, UH, PRESENTED WITH, UH, DOT'S PROGRAM.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, EXCUSE ME, I SHOULD ALSO EXPLAIN.
UH, HE HAS CONCERNS, OBVIOUSLY ABOUT THE SITE, AND I TOLD HIM I'D TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WARRANTED FURTHER CONSIDERATION FOR THE DESIGN MOSTLY FOCUSES ON THE TRUCKS FROM A TRAFFIC POINT OF VIEW.
UM, THE DESIGN THAT, THIS IS THE DESIGN THAT WAS, UH, DONE WITH VDOT, UH, IT, IT SHOWS A TRUCK, UH, THAT'S CALLED A, IT'S CALLED A LITTLE BOY.
THEY CAN'T TELL ME WHERE THEY THIS CAME FROM.
UH, THAT'S, UH, BEEN ADDRESSED NOW.
THIS IS WHAT WE WENT OUT AND DID.
WE WENT OUT AND MEASURED, UH, THE ACTUAL CAR CARRIERS.
THIS IS ON WEST BROAD HONDA, AND THAT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DESIGN VEHICLE THAN WHAT HAD BEEN USED.
AND I UNDERSTAND FROM THE EXHIBITS I SAW THAT, UH, THE, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS UP UPDATED THAT, BUT THOSE THINGS ARE 81 FEET LONG AS OPPOSED TO THAT 53 FOOT VEHICLE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY USED.
AND THIS SHOWS YOU REALLY HOW COMPARE IN LENGTH.
AND SO WE HAD DONE THIS DEMONSTRATION, THIS WAS DONE BY BALZER.
THEY DEVELOPED THE, UM, UM, UH, DESIGN VEHICLE, UH, USING THE FULL LENGTH OF THE, UM, UH, CAR CARRIER TRUCK.
AND WE HAD SOME, UH, ISSUES WITH CURBING IN THIS AREA.
WHAT I CAN'T TELL FROM WHAT I'M LOOKING AT ON THE EXHIBITS THAT WERE PRESENTED, WHETHER JUST HOW THAT WORKS OUT, BUT, UH, AT THIS POINT WITH THE REST, WITH THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT THEY HAVE MADE, THIS IS A REMAINING ISSUE.
UH, THIS IS THE WIDENING PLAN, THE STARS PROGRAM.
ROUTE TWO 50, UH, ROUTE 2 88 PLAN.
UH, YOU CAN SEE THE, UM, THIS IS THE BLOW UP AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT IN HERE WHERE THIS LANE IS GONNA BE EXTENDED.
SO THE DESIGN NOW OPERATES OUT OF THE THIRD.
WHAT IS THE EXISTING THIRD LANE? THERE'S NO RIGHT TURN LANE HERE.
IT TURNS OUT OF THE THIRD THROUGH LANE INTO THE SITE.
UNLESS THE SITE'S MODIFIED IN THE FUTURE, THAT TRUCK WILL BE TURNING ACROSS THE FOURTH LANE.
SO IT'LL BE TURNING OUTSIDE WITH AN OPEN LANE ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
AND YOU SEE THE, YOU KNOW, TRUCK MAKES WIDE TURNS DON'T PULL UP ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
WELL, THAT IS WHAT THE ISSUE WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.
THE DESIGN THAT THEY'VE SHOWN LOOKS LIKE IT FITS PRETTY WELL WHEN THE ROAD IS WIDE AND IT WON'T FIT ANYMORE.
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SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE THE, WHERE THIS COMES DOWN TO, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT HAS MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND THEN FURTHER ILLUSTRATION SINCE THE LAST MEETING.UH, BASICALLY THE DESIGN DOESN'T ACCOMMODATE THE FUTURE.
THEY'RE DEDICATING THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT THE PAVEMENT'S NOT IN PLACE TO, TO HAVE THAT TRUCK TURN OUTTA WHAT IS THE FUTURE FOURTH LANE.
AND THAT'LL STILL BE PULLING IN A, THAT'LL BE TURNING OUT OF A THIRD LANE, NOT A RIGHT TURN LANE.
ANY QUESTIONS? THERE'S NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, SIR.
THANK YOU MR. WILLIAMS. GOOD E GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN.
UH, I AM THE OWNER OF THE AUDI DEALERSHIP DOWN THE STREET.
UH, CONCERNED, UH, I THINK I'VE SENT THE BOARD SOME INFORMATION ON THE TRAFFIC THAT GENERATES AT THE HONDA DEALERSHIP THAT I'VE HAD FOR 45 YEARS IN HENRICO COUNTY.
AND I, I HAVE TO DEFER THAT IT'S, UH, IT'S A HIGH TRAFFIC.
UH, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW WITH, UH, CHRIS, COULD YOU HELP ME GET THE SITE PLAN BACK UP? THIS IS JUST COMMENTS, SIR.
PARDON? THIS IS JUST COMMENTS PERIOD.
SO IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS FOR THE BOARD, PLEASE.
THE AREA THAT'S IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, THE PARKING THAT'S IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, IF THEY HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE SAME STANDARDS THAT I HAD TO AT AUDI, ALL THAT'S GONNA BE ELIMINATED.
THERE WON'T BE, SO WILL THAT TRIGGER A FOURTH PARKING DECK? UM, AND THEN ALSO THE BUFFER, UH, ON THREE CHOP ROAD WHERE WE HAVE THE VETERINARY CLINIC, UH, WE'RE BUTTING RIGHT UP TO 2 88 AND I HAD TO PUT A 15 FOOT BUFFER IN, NOT DELETE ONE IN FRONT OF A $700,000 RENT RESIDENCE COMMUNITY.
UH, ROB WILLIAMSON, 2, 2 6 2 WHEATLAND DRIVE, MANNEQUIN SABOT.
I JUST HAD A FEW CONCERNS DURING THE COMMUNITY MEETING FOR THIS, FOR THE PARKING DECK, AND I HAVE, I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT ADDRESSED HERE TONIGHT.
AND THAT WOULD BE, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING, HE SHOWED AN ELEVATION FROM BROAD STREET ROAD AT THE LOCATION.
IT'D BE UPHILL, BUT YOU COME OFF OF 2 88 DOWNHILL, ET CETERA, WHETHER THERE'S GONNA BE A FACADE THAT'LL BLOCK, UH, VISUALS OF CARS PARKED ON BASICALLY THE ROOF OF THE BACK OF THE BUILDING ANYWHERE ALONG BROAD STREET ON THE GOOSE LAND SIDE.
ALSO LIGHTING, UH, FOR NIGHT VISUALS.
ALSO, WE HAVE NIGHT COMPLIANT OF REQUIREMENTS FOR LIGHTING.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS, UH, PARKING DECK IS, IS LIT ON THE UPPER LEVEL.
IT'S AN, IT'S AN OPEN, OPEN AIR LEVEL.
AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT THE, THE DOWNWARD LIGHTING SHINING ON WINDSHIELDS AND SHINY BRAND NEW PAINT IS GONNA BE ANOTHER ISSUE WITH, UH, THE VISUAL COMING DOWN THE HILL AT NIGHT AS FAR AS, UH, WHAT YOU SEE IF THERE ARE NO FACADES ON, ON THAT UPPER LEVEL.
AND I ALSO WANNA MENTION THAT TO THE WEST OF THIS, UH, TOWARD THE, UH, THOE CREEK SIDE IS A COM COMMERCIAL LOT THAT'S CURRENTLY WOODED THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA PROVIDE A BUFFER UNTIL IT'S DEVELOPED, WHICH MAKES ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF, UH, BARRIER THAT PREVENTS A LINE OF SIGHT FROM THE ROAD AFTER THAT.
UH, ADJACENT PARCEL IS COM IS BASICALLY, UH, BUILT, YOU KNOW, BUILT OUT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEE NOW I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT THEY HEARD? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, UM, HAVE CARL HOLCOMB COME UP AND ADDRESS THE TRAFFIC ISSUES IF THE, IF THE BOARD WISHES HIM TO PLEASE.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M WITH GROVE SLATE ASSOCIATES.
WE'RE A TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FIRM HERE IN TOWN.
AND, UH, WE DID THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND, UH, HELPED THE CIVIL ENGINEER WITH ALL THE AUTO TURN EXHIBITS.
SO, UH, JUST TO DISCUSS THE, IS THIS THE POINTER? YEAH, HERE WE GO.
SO THE EXHIBIT THAT'S ON THE SCREEN, UH, THE, THE FUTURE WIDENING OF BROAD STREET IS, IS JUST IN THE PLANNING PHASE RIGHT NOW.
IT'S AN UNFUNDED PROJECT THROUGH THE VDOT STARS PROGRAM, UH, WHICH
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TYPICALLY LOOKS AT LEAST SIX YEARS INTO THE FUTURE.SO EVEN IF, UH, THIS PROJECT WAS FUNDED AND APPROVED TODAY, IT, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SIX YEARS BEFORE IT WOULD HAPPEN.
UM, AND WE'RE NOT EVEN AT THAT STAGE YET.
SO THIS, THIS IS PRETTY FAR OUT AND IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS WHERE A ROADWAY IS WIDENED AND THERE ARE EXISTING COMMERCIAL DRIVEWAYS ON IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE DRIVEWAYS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY RECONSTRUCTED WITH THE WIDENING TO MIMIC THEIR, THEIR CURRENT CONDITION TO RES BASICALLY TO RESTORE THE TURNING RADI AND SO FORTH WHEN THE WIDENINGS IN PLACE.
SO I, I WOULDN'T EXPECT THAT, UH, THE TRUCK WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A MOVEMENT LIKE THIS.
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE INTO THE YELLOW LANE AND MAKE THEIR TURN INTO THE SITE AND CIRCULATE BACK OUT JUST ONE LANE, JUST 12 FEET CLOSER TO THE BUILDING.
UM, THAT, THAT SHOULD NOT NOT BE AN ISSUE.
AND, AND AGAIN, JUST TO REMINDER, E EVEN THOSE LARGE, YOU KNOW, THE 80 FOOT LONG, 81 FOOT LONG TRUCK THAT WE MODELED, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 15 TO 20 TIMES A MONTH.
SO LE LESS THAN ONE TIME A DAY WOULD A, A TRUCK NEED TO, TO TURN IN AND CIRCULATE AROUND.
I THINK THAT WAS, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT PROMPTS, I'LL JUST ASK A QUESTION FOLLOW UP FROM MINUTE.
YOU, YOU MADE THE OBVIOUS POINT.
THIS, THIS IS AN UNFUNDED STARS PROGRAM, MAY HAPPEN, MAY NOT, BUT YOU MADE KIND OF A CO CONCLUSORY STATEMENT THAT WHEN IT DOES, IF IT DOES, AND WHEN IT DOES, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO ADJUST TURN RADIUS.
BUT I THINK THIS DIAGRAM FOR A LAYMAN, NON-ENGINEER LIKE ME ANYWAY, YOUR, YOUR CHOICES ARE GOING TO BE TO SQUEEZE THE ENTRANCE CLOSER TO THE BUILDING.
AND I KIND OF GOT THE IMPRESSION DURING MR. ROTHMAN'S PRESENTATION THAT YOU ALL HAD ADJUSTED THE SETBACK IN A WAY THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THE, THE RADIUS OR RADAR THAT YOU NEED NOW TO, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU, YOU SOUND LIKE IF THIS GETS APPROVED, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS.
IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE TO SQUEEZE THAT DOWN, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY GONNA TURN, CHANGE THE TURNING RADIUS.
THE OTHER WAY IS YOU CAN SPREAD IT OUT TO MAYBE FIX THAT.
THAT IF THE STARS PRE, IF THE STARS, UH, IF THIS, UH, IMPROVEMENT GETS DONE MM-HMM.
IS THIS DESIGNED TO WORK? IF BROAD STREET GETS WIDENED, I BELIEVE YOUR PRESENTATION MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
YEAH,
SO, UM, WHATEVER SITE, LIKE WHAT SITE YOU THINK, YES.
SO, SO MR. LUMPKINS, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE POINT I WAS MAKING IS THAT, UM, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE LAID OUT THE SITE FROM A, FROM A SETBACK AND SORT OF ORIENTATION STANDPOINT TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, THE, THE FUTURE WIDENING.
OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE TO DESIGN THE SITE BASED ON CURRENT CONDITIONS WORK, RIGHT? SO THERE I I ANTICIPATE THERE WILL BE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT NEED TO BE MADE ANYTIME A SORT OF A SITE IS WIDENED AND, AND YOU PUT A NEW LANE ON A COMMERCIAL STRIP, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THOSE ACCESS POINTS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT LANE FINALLY DOES COME THROUGH.
UM, BUT YEAH, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S, IT HAS TO BE DESIGNED FOR CURRENT CONDITIONS IF THAT MAKES IT DOES.
BUT I FIGURED YOU, YOU WERE PLANNING AHEAD BECAUSE YOU ARE, YOU, YOU KNOW, ENOUGH TO PUT THE PROPOSED PROPERTY LINE THAT YOU POINTED OUT TO US.
SO I THINK IF YOU KNOW WHETHER THAT'S COMING, YOU'RE ALL THE ENGINEERING YOU'VE BEEN DOING, I THINK YOU'LL KNOW, WE, WE, I GUESS YOU, YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN MAKE IT WORK SO THAT THE SAME VEHICLES CAN SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATE EVEN AFTER THE PROPERTY LINE GETS MOVED TO WHERE WE SEE IT AS PROPOSED, CORRECT? ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
MR. PETERSON, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
IF I CAN JUST FOLLOW THAT SAME QUESTION.
UM, AND THEY SAY THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A STUPID QUESTION, RIGHT?
WHY NOT JUST BUILD IT THAT WAY NOW? YOU KNOW, WHY BUILD IT ONE WAY AND THEN CHANGE IT? WHY NOT JUST BUILD IT TO ACCOMMODATE THE FUTURE? I, IS THAT A STUPID QUESTION? I'M GONNA DEFER TO THE, THE COUNTY'S TRAFFIC EXPERT HERE.
SO THERE'S ONE PIECE OF CONTEXT AS FAR AS THE BROAD STREET WIDENING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT THE FOURTH, THAT YELLOW LANE ON THE ONE EXHIBIT INVOLVES MOVING A SUBSTANTIAL VAULT THAT INVOLVES THE HENRICO WATER COMING INTO GLAND AND THEN TAKEN INTO CENTERVILLE.
THAT WOULD BE IN THAT FOURTH LANE THAT WOULD IT, IT IT WOULD BE
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A SUBSTANTIAL LIFT FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WE ANTICIPATE AND CURRENTLY HAVE PUT IN OUR ESTIMATES TO TAKE CARE OF THAT AS PART OF THE ROAD WIDENING PROJECT.I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT MY QUESTION WAS.
AND IT'S, AND CURRENTLY IT'S UNKNOWN IF THAT'S TRAFFIC RATED.
SO IT'S ASSUMED WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE THAT.
SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT THAT WOULD BE A PREREQUISITE TO THEM ACTUALLY DESIGNING AND BUILDING IT NOT FOR THE SITE.
BUT NOT AS THE SITE'S CURRENTLY LAID OUT.
IT WAS, MY QUESTION WAS WHY, WHY NOT JUST DO IT NOW? WELL, IF THEY DID IT NOW, THIS OTHER THING WOULD COME INTO PLAY.
YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN FOR CONTEXT.
THAT THAT'S ALL THAT WOULD BE IN THAT FOURTH LANE AND THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE MOVED AS PART OF ANY BROAD STREET WIDENING PROJECT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THE UNDERNEATH MAY NOT BE TRAFFIC RATED? WE JUST DON'T KNOW THAT YET.
IT'S AN UNKNOWN BECAUSE THE, THE VARIABLE HASN'T BEEN EXPLORED, BUT WE'RE FOR IT.
BUT THEY'RE, IT DRIVING TRUCKS OVER IT.
IF THEY, IF IT, IT WOULD BE MOVED IF BROAD STREET IS EVER WIDENED, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE DRIVING TRUCKS OVER IT AND IT'S PLACED RIGHT NOW, IF IT'S PARALLEL TO BROAD IT, IT WOULD BE IN A GRASS MEDIAN TODAY AS IT IS NOW, IT'S OFF THE, IT'S OFF THE PAVEMENT NOW, WITHIN A RIGHT OF WAY IT WILL REMAIN THAT WAY.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, IT, IT'S NOT, I GUESS IT'S NOT PARALLEL TO BROAD.
IT IS BETWEEN BROAD STREET AND THE WOOD LINE LEADING TO THAT PUMP STATION.
SEE OH YEAH, YOU'VE GOT THE, THE EGRESS AND RESS AND THIS WOULD BE IN BETWEEN IT OFF IN THE GRASS NOW.
AND IF YOU WIDEN IT BACK, SO THE INGRESS AND EGRESS PROPOSED INGRESS EGRESS IS NOT GOING OVER THIS, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO THIS IS A GREAT CONVERSATION AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND WHO'S ASSUMING THE RISK, IT'S THE APPLICANT, RIGHT? LIKE LET'S SAY THEY BUILD IT THIS WAY AND THEN VDOT SAYS, OH, WE'RE GONNA DO, WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
IT'S THE, IT'S THE APPLICANT THAT'S TAKING THAT RISK.
AM I WRONG? IT WAS A CORRECT STATEMENT THAT, THAT MR. ROTHERMELL MADE THAT THEY, THEY'RE DESIGNING IT TO TODAY'S EDGE OF PAVEMENT.
WHENEVER WIDENING DOES COME IN ACROSS ANY RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL FACILITY, VDOT AND THE COUNTY HAVE TO LOOK AT OPERATIONS THAT WE CAN'T HINDER OPERATIONS.
SO THE APRONS AND THE ENTRANCES WOULD BE MODIFIED TO ANY DEGREE TO MAKE SURE THAT OPERATIONS FOR ANY COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL RESIDENTIAL FACILITY ARE, ARE KEPT IN, IN PLACE.
SO IT COULD BE, SO ANY MODIFICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO ANY ENTRANCE ON ANY WIDENING PROJECT ARE PART OF THAT WIDENING PROJECT.
AND I GUESS I, I, I WOULD FURTHER POINT OUT THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE, THESE ARE SITE PLAN ISSUES.
LIKE WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ADJUSTED OUR CONCEPT PLAN TO SHOW THE WIDER ENTRANCES, NOT BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE WE HAD TO DO THAT FOR A CONCEPT PLAN.
UM, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO SORT OF, UM, BE FULLY TRANSPARENT THAT WE STARTED LOOKING AT THESE ISSUES AND WE'VE MADE IT WIDER.
AND, UH, BUT, BUT WE ARE GETTING, AND THIS, THIS, I GUESS THIS IS A DOWNSIDE FOR US IN MOVING PAST THE ZONING ISSUES AND GOING INTO THE SITE PLAN.
WE, WE'VE SORT OF MOVED BEYOND IS THIS A GOOD LAND USE FOR THIS, UM, SITE.
BUT OBVIOUSLY THINGS WE'VE ALREADY STARTED LOOKING AT, BUT WE'LL FURTHER REFINE DURING PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UM, JUST A COUPLE OTHER COMMENTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD A LENGTHY PROCESS HERE.
UM, THERE'S REALLY, UM, NO COMMUNITY OPPOSITION TO THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW MR. PAGE, UM, YOU KNOW, OBJECTS TO IT.
AND, AND HE IS, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE AUDI DEALERSHIP ACROSS THE STREET, HE HAS OTHER HONDA DEALERSHIPS.
SO, UM, I RECOGNIZE HE'S A COMPETITOR OF MY CLIENT.
UM, HE BROUGHT IN MR. WILLIAMS AND THEN I GUESS MR. WILLIAMSON, UM, WAS THE ONLY OTHER PERSON WHO SPOKE, UM, HAD SOME QUESTIONS, THE PARKING DECK, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, WE, WE'VE REALLY SORT, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO, TO INCORPORATE THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN SO FAR IN, IN, IN WHAT THE FACADE SHOULD LOOK LIKE, HOW IT SHOULD BE LAID OUT.
UM, THE COUNTY HAS VERY RIGOROUS REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING, AND WE'VE, YOU KNOW, PUT PLANS TOGETHER, WHICH WE'LL BE SUBMITTING.
UM, AND THAT THAT WILL GO BACK AND FORTH TOO, RIGHT? THAT, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THE, AND THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
UM, SO WE FEEL LIKE THERE'S NO REAL COMMUNITY CITIZEN OPPOSITION TO THIS.
UM, WE THINK IT'S A GREAT USE, CONSISTENT WITH, UM, THE, THE COUNTY'S COMP PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT ZONING.
WE JUST NEED TO AMEND A PROFFER AND GET ACUP, UM, FOR A SITE THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, BRING SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT TO THE COUNTY, GENERATE A LOT OF JOBS FOR THE COUNTY IN A, IN A HEAVILY COMMERCIAL, UH, AND ALREADY HEAVILY COMMERCIAL AREA.
UM, SO WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, UH, THIS BOARD'S, UH, APPROVAL TONIGHT.
WE, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
IF THERE ARE ANY, UH, REMAINING QUESTIONS THAT HAVE GONE UNANSWERED, JUST ONE AGAIN, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, BUT I THINK WHAT MR, MR UH, WILLIAMSON'S
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QUESTION SPECIFICALLY WAS, IS THERE A RISK THAT THIS PARKING DECK CAN BUMP UP TO FOUR STORIES? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.UM, I, WE HAVE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN AS WELL.
SO I'LL, I'LL LET BILL ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I'M SORRY IT'S NOT ANTICIPATED.
NO, THERE'S MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE TO MEET TO BE UNDER 30 FEET, UH, FOR EVERYTHING IN THE, IN, IN THE AREA AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS EXTENSIVELY FOR OVER A YEAR AND MAKING SURE WE'RE DESIGNING WITHIN THE GLAND STANDARDS ACCORDINGLY.
SO, UH, AS WE SIT HERE, NO, THERE'S NO INTENT TO GO TO A FOURTH DECK.
WAS THAT LITTLE SIDEBAR ON LIGHTING NIGHT NIGHT COMPLIANT LIGHTING? YEAH, I WAS THE I WAS GONNA ASK STAFF.
BOARD, UM, UH, STAFF, DO YOU WANNA COME UP? I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
MS. UM, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE LIGHTING THAT BROUGHT UP.
WOULD THIS BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT? YES, SIR.
ALL OUTDOOR LIGHTING IS, UM, REQUIRED TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT PER ORDINANCE RIGHT NEXT TO HENRICO.
I DIDN'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR STEP, UM, I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
THERE WERE SOME REVISED PROFFERS LAID ON OUR, ON OUR, ON THE DAIS WHEN I CAME UP.
UM, THE, UM, UH, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN NUMBER TWO, HELP ME UNDERSTAND DEVELOPMENT OF PROPERTY FOR ANY PERMITTED USE OTHER THAN AUTOMOBILE SALES OR REPAIR SHOW BE IN GENERAL, CONFORMANCE OR REPAIR HAS BEEN STRICKEN.
IT'S, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE REPAIRING VEHICLES WELL, UM, IT'S ACTUALLY SERVICE OF VEHICLES AND THE USE UNDER OUR AUTOMOBILE SALES INCLUDES SERVICE, BUT REPAIR UNDER OUR ORDINANCE IS LIKE INOPERABLE, BANGED UP VEHICLES.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT'S ALLOWED.
THIS IS FOR AUTOMOBILE SERVICE, WHICH IS A, AN ACCESSORY USE.
IT WON'T BE A COLLISION, BUT YES.
I'M, I'M ASKING THE QUESTION, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE APPLICANT, SO THE WAY THAT IT'S INTENDED TO FUNCTION LEGALLY IS FOR MORE OF A PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, YOUR VEHICLE INSPECTION INSPECTIONS, OIL CHANGES, NO, UM, AUTO BODY COLLISION WORK.
SO IF I WAS SAY, DRIVING A SUPERVISOR ON THE COUNTY OF MY HONDA AND I RIPPED OFF A FENDER, I COULDN'T GO THERE TO GET IT FIXED.
I DIDN'T REALIZE, I THOUGHT YOU'D BE ABLE TO GET FULL SERVICE THERE.
MR. MR. PIERCE? YES, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, THERE WAS AN, UH, ISSUE BROUGHT UP ABOUT SCREENING THE TOP DECK.
WHAT, WHERE DOES THAT STAND? UH, ANY POTENTIAL SCREENING FOR THE TOP DECK? TOP DECK OF THE PARKING DECK.
UM, THAT WOULD BE DECIDED AND DETERMINED THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
UH, ONCE WE RECEIVE A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THE APPLICANT IS VERY, VERY CLOSE TO SUBMITTING A FULL PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, SHOULD THE, UM, CASE MOVE FORWARD THROUGH YOU ALL THIS EVENING, THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WOULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND IT'S SOMETHING STAFF WOULD PRE PREPARE, PREPARE, AND REVIEW AND ANALYZE, UM, IN ADVANCE AND PROVIDE A STAFF REPORT FOR.
GO AHEAD IF YOU WANNA STAND THIS POINT.
SO CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PROCESS? 'CAUSE THIS ONE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN MOST OF THE CASES THAT I'VE, I'VE HEARD WHERE WE HAVE HAD PLANS OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT THAT'S GOING TO BE CITED BY DESIGN INTERVIEW.
HOW IS THAT, HOW IS THAT ARBITRATED? LET'S SAY THEY GET TO AN IMPASSE.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? JUST TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS FROM HERE, PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, DESIGN REVIEW, WHAT HAPPENS.
SO, UH, WHILE IT GOES THROUGH THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT REVIEW, ONCE WE START GETTING THE CONCEPTUALS AND THE SPECIFICS FOR THE BUILDING, WE WILL ALSO WORK TO SCHEDULE A DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AT WHICH TIME THEY START TO DISCUSS THINGS SUCH AS, UH, BUILDING MATERIALS LOOK AND FEEL AS THIS IS AN OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH JUST GENERALLY COMES WITH SOME MORE CONFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING IN COUNTY CODE.
UM, THERE'S PROBAB THERE'S MULTIPLE, UM, OVERLAY DISTRICTS WITHIN THE COUNTY.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE, UM, ONE OFF OF ROUTE SIX WHERE EVEN OUR FIRE STATION ADHERES TO THE OVERLAY DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS AND WE DO AS A COUNTY AS WELL, UM, WITH REGARDS TO OUR, UM, EAST GOOCHLAND, UM, PUMP STATION AND SOME OTHER THINGS WITH HOW THEY'RE CONSTRUCTED AND BUILT.
SO WHAT IF THERE'S DISAGREEMENT? THERE IS A ARBITRATION PROCESS? I WILL LET OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MS. SHERRY, BETTER ANSWER THAT FOR YOU.
AND THEN AS WELL, SORRY, I'M JUMPING IN MR. PETERSON, BUT AS WELL, MR. PAGE'S QUESTION ABOUT THE PARKING STANDARDS THAT HE HAD TO CONFORM TO.
WILL HE BE SIMILAR? HOW, HOW DOES THAT GET MANAGED? SO THE TWO QUESTIONS,
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IF THERE'S AN IMPASSE WITH THE DESIGN REVIEW, UM, HOW'S THAT MA, HOW'S THAT HANDLED? AND THEN WHAT IS THE, UM, ADDRESSING MR. PAGE'S CONCERN ABOUT THE PARKING STANDARDS? MR. SPIN HOWER, UM, THE CON, UM, CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL IS PART OF THE POD PROCESS.UM, IF, UM, THEY PUT IN THEIR APPLICATION FOR, UM, CONFORMANCE, UH, THEY WILL, UM, IF THEY DON'T MEET ALL THE STANDARDS, THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WILL HEAR, THE APPLICATION STAFF WILL PRESENT THAT WHICH IS NOT CONSISTENT.
THEY WILL HEAR ON, UM, THE APPLICANT SIDE WHY IT SHOULD BE APPROVED.
UM, THE, UM, DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE CAN IMPOSE CONDITIONS AND ACTUALLY APPROVE IT.
IF, UM, THE APPLICANT IS NOT HAPPY WITH THAT APPROVAL.
THERE IS AN, UM, APPEAL PROCESS AND THAT WOULD COME TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE SECOND? I'M SURE, I'M SURE.
WE'LL, I'M SURE WE'LL COME TO THAT.
UM, MR. PAGE MENTIONED, UM, WHEN THEY, THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THEIR PROCESS, THERE WAS CONDITIONS IN THE PARKING.
UM, AND I THINK THE QUESTION WAS, WILL THEY NEED TO MAINTAIN THE SAME STANDARDS? DON'T.
SO AGAIN, UM, AS PRESENTED IN THE, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THERE'S MORE THAN A DOUBLE ROW OF PARKING.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE.
AND SO THAT ULTIMATELY THE ANSWER TO THAT IS UP TO THEM, BUT IT WILL BE ADDRESSED.
AND AND JUST TO REITERATE, SHOULD THERE BE AN INSTANCE WHERE THERE IS A, UM, CONFORMANCE ISSUE WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS OF THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE, UM, AND THE APPLICANT AREN'T ABLE TO REACH AN AGREEMENT? IT DOES COME BACK TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I HI JUDGE SOME OF YOUR TIME THERE
I I DID WANNA CIRCLE BACK TO MR. PAGE 'CAUSE HE RAISED TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT, UH, ISSUES.
ONE WAS THAT SOME OF THE PARKING PLACES WOULD HAVE TO DISAPPEAR IF THE SAME STANDARDS WERE, UH, IMPOSED.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE TOUCHING ON AS WELL.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE HAD ALREADY TOUCHED ON THE LIGHTING, THE SCREENING OF THE UPPER DECK, UM, AND THEN THE EGRESS REGRESS AND THE, AND THE RELOCATION.
SO I THINK MOST, WE'VE TOUCHED ON MOST OF THE THINGS I WAS GONNA RAISE.
THIS LAST WHAT, OKAY, SO I ASK AGAIN, UM, WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF AN AUTOMOBILE VERSUS A MOTOR VEHICLE? UM, A MOTOR VEHICLE IS OVER 10,000 POUNDS.
I WILL LET MS. MCGEE A PASSENGER VEHICLE THAT IS A PERSONAL USE PASSENGER VEHICLE.
SO WE'RE, SO THE INTENT IS TO SELL VEHICLES HERE BEYOND PRIVATE PASSENGER VEHICLES? NO.
THE INTENT IS TO SERVE, TO SELL PERSONAL USE VEHICLES BECAUSE THEY'RE SELLING AUTOMOBILES, NOT MOTOR VEHICLES.
THE PROPHECY MOTOR VEHICLES, SORRY, I DON'T HAVE IT.
IT SAYS AUTOMOBILE SALES, MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
SALES ACCESSORY ALSO MAY INCLUDE SERVICE OF THESE TYPES OF VEHICLES WITHIN AN ENCLOSED BUILDING.
THIS WAS WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO US TODAY.
SO LET, WE ACTUALLY DID, UM, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THE APPLICANT IS WILLING TO ADDRESS, UH, BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR, UH, AND NOW WE ACTUALLY ASKED THEM TO STRIKE THE INDUSTRIAL TRUCK SALES IN SOME OF THOSE OTHER LANGUAGES, RIGHT? YES.
BUT WE HADN'T GONE SO FAR AS TO FOCUS ON MOTOR VEHICLE.
UM, THEY DID WILLINGLY STRIKE ALL THAT OTHER STUFF AND IT, AND IT'S, THE DISCUSSION WAS AROUND NOT HAVING BIGGER TYPED VEHICLES.
SO THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THE APPLICANT'S WILLING TO DO, BUT IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT ON, ON OUR BEHALF.
BUT WE WEREN'T DISCUSSING MOTOR VEHICLE AS WELL.
I I I'M NOT SAYING I'M OBJECTING TO IT, I JUST DON'T KNOW.
I, I WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS WE'RE PROVING THAT'S ALL THEY DID, STRIKE THE WATERCRAFT AND SOME OTHER, I SEE SPECIFIC VEHICLES, BUT IT DOES ALLOW FOR LARGER VEHICLE SALES.
YOU ARE CORRECT IN THAT QUESTION IN ASKING THAT.
AND WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? EXPLAIN TO ME, MAY I, SO, UM, MR. WONG, UH, INFORMS ME THERE ARE NO HONDAS OVER 10,000 POUNDS.
I THINK WHEN WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COUNTY ON THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK THE LANGUAGE STRAIGHT OUT OF THE ORDINANCE, THE WAY THAT THE ORDINANCE READS INITIALLY.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY ASKED US TO STRIKE MORE MOTORCRAFT AND MOTORCYCLES AND INDUSTRIAL USES AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE TERMINOLOGY, YOU KNOW, SAME THING WITH THE REPAIR.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY ASKED US TO STRIKE THE REPAIR, WE SAID, WAIT A SECOND.
UM, BUT WHEN YOU DIG INTO THE WEEDS OF THE ORDINANCE, GOTCHA.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE'RE NOT DOING A BODY SHOP.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO AND SERVICE WAS ANCILLARY TO THE, TO THE PERMITTED USE.
SO WE STRUCK REPAIR, YOU KNOW, UM, AUTOMOBILE, MOTOR VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, YOU GO TO THE MOTOR VEHICLE BUREAU.
LIKE WE JUST, UM, THAT WAS JUST THE SORT OF THE THOUGHT THAT
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WE'RE STRIKING ALL THE INDUSTRIAL, THE HEAVIER USES.BUT NO, THERE IS NO HONDA OVER 10,000 POUNDS.
I JUST WANT YEAH, SORRY FOR THE CONFUSION.
WELL, I THINK YOU A GOOD POINT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT APPROVING A HONDA DEALERSHIP.
IT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, IT COULD BE ANY, ANY, RIGHT.
SO JUST BECAUSE THE HONDAS ARE, WE'RE NOT APPROVING THAT, WE'RE APPROVING THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE SAYING IN THIS, THAT MOTOR VEHICLE SALES COULD OCCUR IF, IF, IF THIS MOVES FORWARD IS APPROVED.
AND MR. ROTHELL, YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN AWARE, UM, AS WE WERE GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH LANGUAGE, AGAIN, I WAS SO FOCUSED ON INDUSTRIAL TRUCK SALES.
BUT AS WRITTEN UNDER OUR ORDINANCE, MOTOR VEHICLE WOULD INCLUDE VEHICLES OVER 10,000 POUNDS.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WISH TO CONTINUE TO HAVE IN THE PROFFER? NO, WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF SELLING ANYTHING OVER 10,000.
SO IT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE TO YOU FOR THE PROFFERS AMENDED TO EXCLUDE THE WORD MOTOR VEHICLE FROM THE ONE A USE.
NOT, NOT, NOT TO GET TOO SPECIFIC ON THAT, BUT, UH, I BELIEVE THE, THE NEW HUMMER WITH THE OVERSIZED BATTERY PACK IS APPROACHING 10,000.
SO IT'S, IT, IT'S A REAL, I MEAN, IT'S OUT THERE.
SO, AND WHO KNOW WHO, 'CAUSE BATTERIES WEIGH A LOT MORE THAN, AND HOW DOES SELL THE CHECKS TOO?
SO, SO THERE ARE THREE COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO MAKE.
UM, FIRST WE JUST HAD THE CENTERVILLE DEFERRAL AND AMENDMENT PROCESS.
UM, AND ONE THING IT BROUGHT TO LIGHT WAS ALMOST EVERY SINGLE COMMENT MADE SAID, WE DON'T DENY THAT GROWTH WILL HAPPEN IN GLAND COUNTY.
WE JUST WANNA SEE IT DONE RIGHT.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE RIGHT TYPE OF GROWTH THAT WE SHOULD WANT AS A COUNTY.
I THIS IS AT THE HENRICO GLAND BORDER.
THIS IS AN INDUSTRIAL SLASH COMMERCIAL AREA.
SO FOR, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE COMMENTS WE'VE RECEIVED, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I CAN SAY IS THE CITIZENS PUT, PUT THAT COMMENT OUT THERE.
I'M NOT MAKING THAT COMMENT ON MY OWN.
I'M SAYING THIS IS WHERE WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT HAPPEN.
SECOND, WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD STEWARD IN THIS APPLICANT FOR OVER 10 MONTHS.
I'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL PROJECT WITH SOMEONE REACHING OUT AND HIS ENTIRE TEAM SAYING, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.
HOW DO WE GO ABOUT DOING THIS? THAT'S THE TYPE OF COMMUNICATION AND APPLICANT THAT WE WANNA SEE IN EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTY.
I, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN TAKE A, YOU KNOW, UH, TAKE MR. WONG'S APPROACH AND, UH, REPEAT IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND HAVE GOOD STEWARDS IN OUR BUSINESS PARTNERS.
AND FINALLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
WE CAN'T PUT GOOD BUSINESS PARTNERS BEHIND HYPOTHETICALS.
I, I APPRECIATE VDOT AND ALL THE WORK WE DO WITH THEM, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT A PROJECT BEHIND A, MAYBE SOMETHING HAPPENS ON BROAD STREET ROAD WHEN WE HAVE A GOOD COMMERCIAL BUSINESS PARTNER THAT WANTS TO DO A PROJECT.
AND SO I JUST, TO ME, THOSE ARE THREE OF THE POINTS THAT I, I SEE STANDING OUT IN THIS, UH, APPLICATION.
AND, UH, WHY I THINK, YOU KNOW, I HOPE WE SUPPORT IT.
WELL, WHERE'S THE LIST MR. CHAIRMAN AMENDED? I, UH, I MOVE THE BOARD OF PROOF PROFFER AMENDMENT RZ 2023 DASH EIGHT AT 12 5 0 1 BROAD STREET ROAD WITH THE AMENDMENT OF NO VEHICLES OVER 10,000 POUNDS, UH, BEING ON SITE.
AND THAT WOULD BE TO STRIKE THE WORDS, UM, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE FROM PROFFER ONE A AS AGREED TO BY THE APPLICANT AT THE WELL, MS. BI THINK IT NEED TO ALL BE AS AMENDED.
'CAUSE SINCE WE GOT NEW PROFFERS TODAY.
AND, AND THE PROFFERS LISTED ON THE PAGE TITLED REVISED PROFFERS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A AND A SECOND FOR THE DISCUSSION.
THIS LAST QUESTION, JUST, JUST TO BE, UM, MR. VADER, SO THE AMENDMENTS ON THIS PAGE THAT WE WERE HANDED TONIGHT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF STRIKING THROUGH MOTOR VEHICLES.
IS THAT CORRECT? WITH THE ADDITION OF, I I THINK MOTOR VEHICLES ACT, RIGHT? HOW, HOW DO WE LEGALLY DO THAT TO BE JUST SAY, THE 10,000 POUND RULE? NO, JUST NO, IT WAS, IT WAS ALREADY
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SAID.MR. CHAIR, I, UM, I UNDERSTOOD ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY, UM, MR. VADER ABOUT THE APPLICANT HIMSELF AND, UH, THE PROCESS HE'S GONE THROUGH AND BEING A GOOD COMMUNITY, UH, PARTNER AND WHATNOT.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MR. PAGE SIMILARLY WENT THROUGH A, A VERY GOOD PROCESS, INTERACTIVE PROCESS, BACK AND FORTH, WORKING TOGETHER, AND HAS BEEN A GREAT NEIGHBOR AND BUSINESS IN GLAND.
AND I UNDERSTAND THERE'S SOME COMPETITIVE ELEMENT HERE, BUT I WANTED TO REITERATE THAT, THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT REALLY TWO AUTO DEALERSHIPS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH A VERY, UM, SIMILAR PROCESS, AND THEY'VE DONE IT IN A WAY THAT WE, IT WAS VERY PROFESSIONAL AND WE HOPE A LOT OF FOLKS CAN LEARN FROM THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR POINTING THAT OUT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THE ONLY OTHER ONE I WOULD MAKE IS THAT TYPICALLY I WOULD NOT BE A FAN OF REDUCING BUFFERS.
HOWEVER, EACH PIECE OF PROPERTY IS UNIQUE, AND WHEN I LOOK TO THE EAST, I DON'T SEE ANY BUFFERS AT ALL.
SO THERE WAS NO THOUGHT TO, TO, TO SHIELD THE, THE BUSINESSES OF GLAND COUNTY.
SO I, I'M, I CAN GET MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
UM, NOW WE NEED TO MOVE INTO THE, THE, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
[3. 5832: District 4 CU-2023-00010 Application by SP Real Estate Holdings LLC requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for automobile sales and service on 6.93 acres at 12501 Broad Street Road on Tax Map No. 59-3-2-F-P7. The property is currently zoned Business, General (B-1), with proffered conditions, but, incompanion case RZ-2023-00008, the applicant is requesting proffer amendments to allow automobile sales and service as permitted uses. The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-242. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Prime Economic Development]
AND THERE'S, THERE'S NO SEPARATE PRESENTATION FOR THAT, CORRECT? CORRECT.WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO VOTE.
UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2023 DASH 10 FOR AUTOMOBILE SALES AND SERVICE AT 12 5 0 1 BROAD STREET ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CON IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
JUST AS A CLARIFICATION, MR. CHAIRMAN, AS PRESENTED IS THE AMENDED PROFFER LIST, THE, THE PROFFER WAS IN THE REZONING.
THIS IS THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET.
THEY HAVE NOT BEEN CHANGED SINCE THE PACKET.
THANK YOU MR. PETERSON FOR CLARIFICATION.
SIR, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL VOTE.
YOUR APPLICATIONS ARE APPROVED.
UM, RIGHT NOW THE BOARD WILL ADJOURN TO A MERE 22 HOURS FROM NOW, UH, FOR OUR
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SPECIAL MEETING AND THE CENTER OF SMALL AREA PLAN, AND THEN TO OUR REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING, UM, ON NOVEMBER 1ST, UH, WE ADJOURNED.