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WE'LL CALL THE NOVEMBER MEETING OF THE GUCCI PLANNING COMMISSION TOGETHER.
SECRETARY, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? YES, SIR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A QUORUM THANK YOU.
[1. Call To Order]
ONE P RISE FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE COMPLICATIONS, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, THE FLAG[2. Pledge of Allegiance]
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.GRACIOUS GOD, THANK YOU FOR OUR MEN AND WOMEN IN UNIFORM WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO MEET HERE SAFELY.
BLESS AND KEEP THOSE WHO STILL DO.
[3. Invocation - Led By Mr. Duke]
THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME TO GATHER, TAKE CARE OF COMMUNITY, COUNTY BUSINESS.WE PRAY THAT YOU GRANT EACH OF US THE WISDOM TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF THIS COMMUNITY.
PLEASE BE WITH EACH PERSON HERE AND GIVE THEM GUIDANCE.
BE WITH EACH OF US AS WE TRAVEL BACK HOME.
EVERYONE HAS RECEIVED A COPY OF THE MINUTES OF THE LAST MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR CORRECTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE.
[4. Approval of Minutes]
ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.WELL NOW OPEN IT UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
IF ANYTHING IS NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, SEE YOU.
[5. Citizen Comment Period]
WE'LL CLOSE IT.UH, ANY REQUEST TO, UH, DEFER, NO REQUEST TO DEFER ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES TO THE ORDER OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS?
[6. Requests to Defer, Additions, Deletions, or Changes to the Order of Public Hearings]
OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS IN DISTRICT THREE CU 20 23 15, APPLICATION BY ROBIN AND AUSTIN LEE REQUESTING RENEWAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CUP CU 20 18 6[1. District 3 - CU-2023-00015 Application by Robin and Austin Lee requesting renewal of conditional use permit (CUP) CU-2018-00006 for a public assembly place to operate a wedding and event venue and for a parking waiver on a 2-acre portion of 56.665 acres at 2192 Sheppard Town Road on Tax Map 43-14-0-A-0. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 in accordance with Sec. 15-290. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]
FOR A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE TO OPERATE A WEDDING AND EVENT VENUE AND FOR A PARKING WAIVER ON A TWO ACRE PORTION OF 56.665 ACRES AT 2 1 9 2 SHEPP TOWN ROAD ON TAX MAP 43 14 0 8 0.THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED.
THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15 1 12 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 15 2 90.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
MEMBERS COMMISSIONER TOM COLEMAN, PRINCIP PLANNER.
AS MS. PARKER SAID, THE FIRST APPLICATION IS A RENEWAL OF A CONDITION USE PERMIT FOR A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE.
UM, IT IS LOCATED ON SHEPP TOWN ROAD, WHICH IS JUST EAST OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE HERE.
UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OWNED AGRICULTURALLY AND ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE ALSO SHARED THAT AGRICULTURAL ZONING AND THE, THE PROPERTY IS RECOMMENDED FOR ROLE ENHANCEMENT AREA OR DESIGNATED ROLE ENHANCEMENT AREA AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SITE, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO BARNS ON THE PROPERTY.
THEY HAVE A PARKING AREA ABOUT 72 SPACES, AND THEY HAVE A POND THAT'S FORMS PART OF THE VIEW SHED FOR THEIR FACILITY.
THERE ARE OTHER, UH, STRUCTURES ON THE SITE INCLUDING TWO DWELLINGS, SOME SHOPS, GARAGES AND SO FORTH, UH, WHICH AREN'T, UM, USED WITH THIS BUSINESS.
UH, THE, THE FIRST APPROVAL WAS IN 2018, UH, FOR THE PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY.
UM, THE, THIS APPLICATION, AS I MENTIONED, IS FOR RENEWAL.
UH, THEY ARE NOT REQUESTING, THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY CHANGES.
UM, TYPICALLY THESE PROJECTS COME FORWARD FROM STAFF WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A 10 YEAR RENEWAL THAT WILL BE A PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
THEY DID ASK FOR A 15 YEAR, THE, THE COMMISSION CONSIDERATION, A FOUR 15 YEAR RENEWAL.
AND I'LL TOUCH BASE ON THAT AGAIN, WHEN WE GO OVER THE CONDITIONS.
JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF AIR PHOTOS TO SORT OF LOOK AT THE SITE.
UM, AGAIN, THE, THE, THE, THE VENUE AREA, SORT OF CENTRALLY LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY AND LOOKING AT THE ARROW PHOTOS TO SORT OF DEMONSTRATE THE RURAL CHARACTER, UM, OF THE AREA.
KIND OF ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE, JUST A COUPLE OF PICTURES FROM THE SITE, INCLUDING, UH, PICTURES OF THE BARNS.
UM, KINDA SEE THE PARKING AREA LOOK LIKE IT USED TO BE AN OLD HORSE RING THERE.
UM, BUT THE PAD SHOWED ROOM FOR 72 CARS ON THAT.
AND THEN SORT OF SEE THE AREA CIRCLED, SORT OF THE POND WAS FORMS OF PART OF THE V SHED.
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ACTIVITIES AT THIS LOCATION.UM, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED, UH, WITH THIS IN 2019 AFTER THE FIRST COP APPROVAL.
AND THE MAIN THING ON THERE IS IT DOES SHOW THE PARKING AREA AND DOES SHOW KIND OF THE AREA WHERE THE, UH, EVENTS TAKE PLACE.
AND, UH, MOST OF THEIR ACTIVITIES DO TAKE PLACE EITHER IN, AROUND THE BARNS OR OUTDOORS.
UM, THEY ARE LIMITED TO ONE ACTIVITY PER WEEK AND NO EVENT CAN EXCEED 200 PEOPLE.
AND AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THEY'RE NOT PLANNING ANY NEW BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES WITH THIS APPLICATION.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, UH, FIVE PEOPLE ATTENDED.
UM, THE MEETING ATTENDEES DID EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE RENEWAL, AND AFTER THAT ONE PROPERTY OWNER DID SUBMIT A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THEIR APPLICATION.
UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, PROPERLY REGULATED WITH CUP CONDITIONS, THIS TYPE OF CUP IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ROLE ENHANCEMENT AREA DESIGNATION.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES TO THE, UH, TO THE CUP CONDITIONS, BUT MOST OF 'EM ARE REALLY JUST, UM, HOUSEKEEPING JUST TO UPDATE THE, THE TEXT AND LANGUAGE TO OUR CURRENT STANDARD CUP CONDITIONS.
UM, THE FIRST ONE ALLOWS THE USE OF THE, THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY USE.
UM, THE SECOND ONE DOES REQUIRE THEM TO ADHERE TO THEIR POD.
UM, THAT WAS APPROVED P 20 19 0 1.
I SHOWED THE SITE PLAN EARLIER.
UM, NUMBER THREE DOES REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE AT LEAST 50 PARKING SPACES WITH THEIR ORIGINAL APPROVAL.
THEY WERE GRANTED A PARKING WAIVER SO THEY COULD HAVE GRAVEL PARKING.
AND THIS JUST CONTINUES TO, TO REQUIRE THAT MINIMUM OF 50 SPACES AND ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO HAVE GRAVEL, UH, PARKING FOR THEIR NON HANDICAPPED SPACES.
UH, THE NEXT ONE DOES PROHIBIT ANY PARKING ON SHEPHERD TOWN ROAD.
UM, NUMBER FIVE WOULD REQUIRES ANY OF THEIR INTERNAL ROADS TO, TO, TO SERVE THEIR FACILITIES ON SITE, UH, TO CONTINUE TO BE MAINTAINED, UM, TO THE SATISFACTION OF GUCCI FIRE RESCUE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THEY, THEY'RE LIMITED TO ONE SIGN.
UH, NUMBER SEVEN, JUST ANY EXTERIOR LIGHTING, UH, WOULD NEED TO BE APPROVED AS PART OF A A LIGHTING PLAN.
IT WOULD NEED TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT.
UH, THE LIMIT ON GUESTS 200, UM, THE WEEKLY LIMIT, THEY ARE ALLOWED, THEY ARE LIMITED TO ONE ACTIVITY PER WEEK.
THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN ACCESSORY ACTIVITY ALSO, AS LONG AS IT'S RELATED TO THE PRIMARY ACTIVITY.
UM, WE STILL, WE STILL CONSIDER ALL THAT ONE ACTIVITY AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE BEFORE YOU.
AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING ANY CHANGES.
UM, AND THEY DO, UH, AND END ALL THEIR AMPLIFICATION, UH, AT 10:00 PM ON SATURDAYS.
UM, THEY ARE, UH, RESTRICTED TO HAVING, UM, ANY, ANY NOISE PLAINLY, AUDIBLE, BEYOND THEIR PROPERTY LINE AND THE SUBS ARE PROHIBITED.
THE UNIFORM SECURITY, AGAIN, THAT'S SORT OF A STANDARD CONDITION THAT THE STATE'S CONDITION UNDER WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SECURITY OFFICER ON SITE.
UH, AGAIN, NUMBER 13, OUR STANDARD CONDITION AS IT RELATES TO SERVING ALCOHOL AT THE FACILITY.
UM, NEXT ONE'S A PROHIBITION ON THE, UH, FIREWORKS.
UM, NEXT ONE REQUIRES AN ANNUAL NOTICE.
AND AGAIN, ON THE, UH, THE NUMBER 17, UM, THE, UH, THE APPLICATION COMES BEFORE YOU WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF A 10 YEAR RENEWAL ON THE SECOND, UH, APPLICATION.
BUT I DID NOTE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED 15 AND THEY DID REQUEST THAT 15 AS A PART OF THEIR APPLICATION.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS OUR STANDARD, UM, STANDARD CONDITION AS IT RELATES, RELATES TO THE TRANSFER OR RELEASE TO THE PROPERTY.
AND WITH THAT COMPLETES OUR PRESENTATION.
HAS THERE, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS WITH THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SINCE ISSUED? I'M SORRY.
HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS? UH, THE, THIS NOT SITE HAS NOT GENERATED ANY COMPLAINTS.
ANYBODY HAS OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I HAVE, SO IS IT'S, HAVE WE DONE 15 YEARS ON ONE OF THESE BEFORE? UM, THEY COME TO BEFORE WITH STAFF WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR 10 YEARS.
BUT IN THEIR APPLICATION, THEY DID SAY THEY WERE REQUESTING A 15 YEAR, SO THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, UM, WOULD NEED TO DECIDE WHICH, UH, IF THEY DECIDE TO APPROVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION, WHAT THAT TIME PERIOD IS.
THE, UH, AND THEY ARE LIMITED TO ONE, UH, EVENT PER WEEK.
THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING ANYMORE.
RIGHT NOW, AS MENTIONED, THE, THE WAY THE CONDITION IS WRITTEN, IT'S ONE PER WEEK.
UM, BUT THEY CAN HAVE LIKE AN ACCESSORY ACTIVITY.
FOR EXAMPLE, THEY COULD HAVE A REHEARSAL DINNER, CORRECT.
WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT ONE ACTIVITY, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, THEY'RE LIMITED TO THE ONE ACTIVITY PER WEEK.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU.
HOW YOU DOING? I'M AUSTIN LEE.
I LIVE AT 2192 SHEPP TOWN ROAD.
AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF ANYBODY HAS ANY.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING
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AND DISCUSSION.DID WE, I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANY SPEAKERS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE ACTUALLY OPENED THE PUBLIC HEARING 'CAUSE THAT WAS THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION.
WE'LL, WE'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL CLOSE IT AGAIN.
I MEAN, I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THIS.
I I, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GREAT THEY TAKE A PROPERTY THEY HAVE THAT'S BEAUTIFUL AND SHARE IT WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
UM, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE IT.
I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 20 23 0 0 0 1 5 FOR PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE AT 2192 SHEPHERD TOWN ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS WITH THE FILING AMENDMENT OF THE 15 YEAR CUPI.
SECOND IT BEEN MAY AND SECONDED.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CALL FOR ROLL CALL.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON DECEMBER 5TH, 2023 WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM SIGNED IS IN DISTRICT THREE CU 20 23 16, APPLICATION BY ANDREW SWIFT, REQUESTING
[2. District 3 - CU-2023-00016 Application by Andrew Swift requesting renewal of conditional use permit (CUP) CU-2007-00015A for automobile repair, automobile sales, and farm equipment sales and service on 2.616 acres at 1269 Broad Street Road on Tax Map No. 45-1-0-10-A. The property is zoned Business, General (B-1). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-242. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Single Family Residential, Low Density.]
RENEWAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, CUP CU 2007 15 A FOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR, AUTOMOBILE SALES AND FARM EQUIPMENT, SALES AND SERVICE ON 2.616 ACRES AT 1 2 6 9 BROAD STREET ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBER 45 1 0 10 A.THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BUSINESS GENERAL B ONE.
THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15,242.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY.
MEMBERS COMMISSION TOM COLEMAN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER.
UM, AS MS. PARKER SAID, AGAIN, THIS IS A RENEWAL OF A CONDITIONS PERMIT.
UM, THIS IS LOCATED ON BROAD STREET.
IT IS LOCATED WITHIN THE OILVILLE VILLAGE.
UM, AND LOOKING AT THE, UH, AIR PHOTO, UM, IT IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO AUTUMN BREEZE AND THE AIR PHOTO JUST SORT OF REFLECT THE ROLE CHARACTER, UM, OF THIS AREA.
LOOKING AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, IT IS ZONED COMMERCIALLY.
UM, THE PROPERTY'S TO THE NORTH ACROSS BROAD STREET AND TO THE EAST, UH, ARE ZONING AGRICULTURALLY AND THE UDUB BREEZES, UH, SUBDIVISION HAS A RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AREAS TO THE NORTH, UM, ACROSS BROAD STREET ARE HAVE A CARRY, A FLEXIBLE OR RESIDE RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION.
AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE OTHER PROPERTY SOUTH ABROAD ARE RECOMMENDED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.
JUST LOOK AT A QUICK, UH, OVERVIEW OF THE SITE.
THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS ON THE SITE, INCLUDING A, ABOUT A 3,500 SQUARE FOOT MAIN BUILDING, UH, WHICH YOU SEE A PICTURE OF, UH, IN THE PRESENTATION.
AND THERE'S A 1700 SQUARE FOOT, UM, SHED ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE SITE HAS BEEN UTILIZED FOR BUSINESS ACTIVITIES SINCE THE 1950S.
UH, FOR MANY YEARS IT WAS THE, IT STARTED AS AS THE SWIFT DE TRACTOR COMPANY.
UM, THE CEP HISTORY, THE FIRST CEP WAS APPROVED IN 2008 FOR AUGUST SALES AND SERVICE IN 2018.
UM, IT WAS APPROVED, THE AUTO SALES AND SERVICE WAS RENEWED, BUT ALSO THE FARM EQUIPMENT SALES AND SERVICE WAS ADDED AS A USE.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RE TO RENEW THE CUP FOR BOTH USES WITH NO CHANGES TO THE APPLICATION.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD IN AUGUST.
THERE WERE FIVE ATTENDEES, INCLUDING COMMISSIONER MYERS AND THE ATTENDEES DID EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS APPLICATION.
UM, THIS IS A COPY OF THE POD THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2008.
UM, JUST WANNA POINT OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE CON IN, UH, THESE WILL BE REFLECTED IN THE CP CONDITIONS THAT YOU'LL SEE IN JUST A MOMENT.
UM, TO THE FRONT AREA ALONG BROAD STREET, UH, THAT'S AN AREA WHERE, UM, UH, EITHER VEHICLES OR TRAILERS AND SO FORTH, ANY, ANYTHING THAT'S FOR SALE THAT'S OPERABLE COULD BE LOCATED IN THAT AREA.
ANYTHING THAT IS INOPERABLE, UM, IS SUPPOSED TO BE EITHER INSIDE THE BUILDING OR BEHIND THE BUILDING ARE SCREENED FROM VIEW.
SO AS WE GET TO THE CONDITIONS, THOSE, THERE'S A FACIL FOR SALE AREA FOR CARS, AREA FOR TRAILERS AREA AND OPERABLE VEHICLES.
BUT SORT OF, UH, THE SITE PLAN WHERE IT DESIGNATES THOSE SEPARATE AREAS IN THE CONFERENCE PLAN.
UH, THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED SINGLE FAMILY, UM, LOAD DENSITY.
THE, THE, THE CEP RENEWAL APPLICATION IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THAT DESIGNATION.
UM, HOWEVER, JUST, UH, UH, THE BUILDING AND SITE ARE LOCATED IN A BUSINESS ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S BEEN UTILIZED FOR COMMERCIAL USE SINCE, SINCE THE 1950S.
UM, AND THE COMMERCIAL USE HERE IS GENERALLY IN CHARACTER WITH, UH, OTHER AREAS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
OTHER BUSINESS USES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY
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ALONG BROAD STREET ROAD.UM, AGAIN, THE CP CONDITIONS, MOST OF THE CHANGES HERE IS HOUSEKEEPING CHANGES TO UPDATE THE TEXT AND LANGUAGE.
UM, THE FIRST ONE DOES ALLOW THE AUTOMOBILE REPAIR AND AUTOMOBILE SALES AND THE FARM EQUIPMENT SALES AND SERVICE USES AT THIS SITE.
AND IT ALSO INCLUDES A DEFINITION FOR AUTOMOBILE.
UM, THE SECOND ONE REQUIRES 'EM TO ADHERE TO THE POD AND THE SITE PLAN YOU SAW EARLIER.
UM, AND IT DOES REQUIRE THEM TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT POD.
UM, IT GOVERNS THE PARKING OF AUTOMOBILES FOR SALE TRAILERS FOR SALE OF REPAIR, AND, UM, REQUIRES 'EM TO HAVE A SIGN DESIGNATED WHERE THE TRAILS COULD BE PARKED.
THE THREE, AGAIN, HAS TO DO WITH THE, UH, WHERE THE AUTOMOBILE EQUIPMENT REPAIRS CAN TAKE PLACE AND, UM, WHERE AUTOMOBILES FOR SALE MUST BE DISPLAYED.
AND THE FIFTH ONE WOULD REQUIRE, UH, LEGAL COMPLIANCE WITH ALL COUNTY, STATE, AND FEDERAL LAWS.
UM, THE SIXTH ONE, THE NUMBER SIX, WOULD PROHIBIT ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE OF PARTS OR PETROLEUM PRODUCTS, ET CETERA.
NUMBER SEVEN WOULD REQUIRE ANY LIGHTING TO BE PART OF A LIGHTING PLAN.
ALSO WOULD REQUIRE ANY LIGHT TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT.
THERE'S AN EXTRA PIECE OF THAT CONDITION THAT DOES PROHIBIT ANY LIGHTING BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY TO BROAD STREET.
WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO LIGHTING THAT'S SHINING ON BROAD STREET THAT WOULD CREATE A HAZARD FOR THE TRAVELING PUBLIC ON ROUTE TWO 50.
NUMBER EIGHT, UM, REQUIRES 'EM TO, TO MAINTAIN TO THE COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE THAT VDOT REQUIRED.
UM, THE NUMBER NINE WOULD LIMIT THEIR OPERATIONS OF HOURS OPERATION FROM SEVEN TO SEVEN MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
UM, WE DID, UH, THERE'S ONE THAT'S, UH, DELETED THERE.
IT WOULD REQUIRE THEM TO ADHERE WITH THE OVERLY DISTRICT.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO THE OVERLY DISTRICT ANYWAY.
AND WE WOULD REVIEW THAT WITH ANY, UM, BILL PERMIT OR, OR SITE PLAN REVIEW.
SO, UM, IT WAS REDUNDANT TO HAVE THAT IN THERE.
UM, AND THIS DOES COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH A RECOMMENDATION FOR A 10 YEAR, UM, RENEW, UH, RENEWAL DATE FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR EX UH, THEIR RENEWAL EXPIRATION DATE.
AND THE LAST ONE IS OUR STANDARD CONDITION AS IT RELATES TO THE TRANSFER RELEASE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY INVESTIGATION.
ALL THESE CONDITIONS WITH ARE THE SAME AS WHAT THEY HAD ON THE ORIGINAL.
THEY'RE JUST NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.
ANY NO QUESTIONS, NO COMPLAINTS? PARDON? NO COMPLAINTS.
NO COMPLAINTS ON THE SITE? NO.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I'LL TRY TO ANSWER.
I'LL OPEN ENOUGH FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
DON'T HEAR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
WE'LL CLOSE WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I MOVE THAT THE COMPLAINING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS CU 20 23 0 0 0 1 6 FOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR, AUTOMOBILE SALES AND FARM EQUIPMENT, SALES AND SERVICE AT 1 2 6 9 BROAD STREET ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON DECEMBER 5TH, 2023, WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR NEXT ITEM TONIGHT IS IN DISTRICT FIVE, RZ 20 23 13, APPLICATION BY BOONE HOMES INC.
REQUESTING A REZONING OF THREE ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL
[3. District 5 - RZ-2023-00013 Application by Boone Homes, Inc. requesting a rezoning of 3 acres from Agricultural, Limited (A-2) to Residential, General (R-3), with proffered conditions, for a residential subdivision at 471 Blair Road on Tax Map No. 64-7-0-C-0. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Single-Family Residential, Medium Density.]
LIMITED, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL GENERAL R THREE WITH CRAWFORD CONDITIONS FOR A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION AT 4 7 1 BLAIR ROAD ON TAX UP NUMBER 64 7 0 C.THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.
I'M JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THIS NEXT APPLICATION IS BY BOONE HOMES INCORPORATED, REQUESTING A THREE ACRE PROPERTY ON BLAIR ROAD TO RE, UM, FROM RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL GENERAL TO CREATE THREE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE VICINITY MAP, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UM, IN THE LOWER EASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE ACTUAL AERIAL MAP, IT IS LOCATED SOUTH OF PATTERSON AVENUE.
BLAIR ROAD RUNS NORTH SOUTH, UM, IN THE AREA.
AS YOU CAN SEE, BLAIR ESTATES, IF YOU RECALL, THAT IS A, UH, SUBDIVISION THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2021 FOR 10 LOTS.
UH, JUST SOUTH OF THAT IS WEST OAKS.
THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST ARE CURRENTLY VACANT.
THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH HAS A, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON IT.
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SO THE ZONING MAP SHOWS THE R THREE TO THE EAST FOR BLAIR ROADS, THAT IS THE SAME REQUEST THAT THE APPLICANT IS MAKING, UM, THE PROPERTY THAT I REFERENCED AS VACANT TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST.R ZONED AGRICULTURAL AS IS THE RESIDENTIAL LOT TO THE SOUTH.
AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST SOUTH OF BLAIR ESTATES IS WEST OAKS.
THE ENTIRE, UH, ADJACENT PROPERTY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED BY THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.
SO JUST A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING.
UM, I HAD MENTIONED THERE IS A PROPOSED THREE LOT SUBDIVISION.
UH, THIS IS INTENDED TO BE AN EXTENSION OF BLAIR ROADS.
I MEAN BLAIR ESTATES, UM, THAT SAME SUBDIVISION I JUST REFERENCED.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROFFERED TO PROVIDE THE SAME BUFFERS, PERIMETER BUFFERS TO THE SOUTH.
UM, UH, LOT SIZES CONSISTENT, UH, HOUSING SIZE AND MATERIALS ARE CONSISTENT.
AND IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT, UH, THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE TCS, UH, IS NOT LOCATED IN THE P-T-C-S-D, BUT IT WILL BE SERVED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER.
SO THIS IS A MARKUP OF WHAT THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IN YOUR PACKET LOOK LIKE.
UM, THE BLUE IS BLAIR ESTATES.
THE RED, UM, WITH THE ARROWS POINTING TO IT IS THE PROPOSED PROPERTY.
UH, THEY ARE PROPOSING, UH, A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER THAT IS, UH, TO RUN ALONG BLAIR ROAD.
THAT WILL BE A BUFFER THAT IS NATURAL, BUT THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT REPLANTINGS AND SUPPLEMENTING IF NECESSARY.
THE PLOT, THE LOTS WOULD ACCESS ONTO BLAIR ESTATES COURT, WHICH IS THAT INTERIOR ROAD THAT SERVES THE, UM, 2021 SUBDIVISION.
AND AS I HAD MENTIONED, THE UH, PROPERTY HAS A 35 FOOT MINIMUM, 35 FOOT BUFFER NATURAL BUFFER TO THE SOUTH, WHICH IS CONSISTENT TO WHAT, UH, THE BLAIR ROAD ESTATE'S PROPERTY WAS.
SOME AREAS ARE ACTUALLY MORE THAN 35 FEET IN THAT CASE.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATIONS.
UH, AS I MENTIONED, IT WAS, UH, IT IS IDENTIFIED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY, WHICH, UH, RECOMMENDS A AVERAGE LOT OF ONE ACRES.
UM, THIS IS SMALLER THAN THE ONE ACRE SIZE, BUT IT IS, UH, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN UM, TWO, UH, 2021.
THE APPROXIMATE SIZE IS ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE, UM, AVERAGE.
AND THOSE LOTS ARE A LITTLE LARGER THAN THE ONES IN, UH, BLAIR ESTATES AS WELL AS LARGER THAN THE ONES IN WEST OAK TO THE SOUTH OF BLA ESTATES, WHICH HAS, UM, UM, WHICH, WHICH WAS RPOD.
SO IT WAS ALLOWED A HIGHER DENSITY.
UM, THE DENSITY PER ACRE, AS I MENTIONED, IS NOT, UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALLOWS.
BUT WHAT IT DOES ALLOW FOR, UM, IS THAT THE AREA THAT ARE NOT IN THOSE PRIVATE LOTS CAN BE USED TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE BUFFERS THAT WE MENTIONED ON AND SHOWED ON THE COMPREHEND, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO, UH, PROFFERED A MINIMUM HOUSE SIZE OF 2,500 SQUARE FEET FLOOR AREA.
AND THE HOMES WILL BE SIMILAR TO, UH, WHAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS PROFFERED WITH THE BLAIR ESTATES CASE ACE.
SO FOR TRANSPORTATION, BLAIR ROAD IS CLASSIFIED AS A MAJOR COLLECTOR THERE.
UH, SPEED LIMIT IS 35 MILES PER HOUR.
THE EXISTING DWELLING THAT IS ON THAT LOT ACCESS IS BLAIR ROAD.
UH, BLAIR ESTATES COURT, AS I HAD REFERENCED ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, IS THE INTERIOR LOT.
THESE THREE LOTS WILL ACTUALLY BE, UM, ACCESSING BLAIR ESTATES COURT AS OPPOSED TO BLAIR ROAD.
SO IT ACTUALLY WILL BE ELIMINATING THAT ONE ACCESS ONTO THE MAIN ROAD.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO DEDICATING RIGHT AWAY IN ORDER TO, UH, UH, FOR IN THE FUTURE WHEN WE DO, UH, UH, WIDEN BLAIR ROAD, THE THE RIGHT OF WAY WILL BE IN PLACE.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
THERE WERE TWO ATTENDEES PRESENT.
UH, QUESTIONS WERE IN REFERENCE TO THE, THE BUFFER ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE TYPES OF HOUSING THAT WERE, THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
KIND OF SMALL, BUT THIS IS THE PROPER SUMMARY.
I HAVE THE ACTUAL PROPERS IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY.
BUT WE HAVE THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT I SHOWED YOU AND HOW IT INTEGRATES WITH THE EXISTING, UH, SUBDIVISION BUFFERS THAT ARE CONSISTENT.
UH, WITH THE 35 PERIMETER BUFFER, THEY'RE OFFERING THAT TO THE SOUTH NEAR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, AND AS LONG AS WELL AS A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ON BLAIR ROAD, UH, THEY'RE LIMITED TO THEIR REQUEST TO THREE
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LOTS.UH, PROFFERS FOR THE, UH, ONE OF THE PROFFERS DOES ACTUALLY SAY THAT THEY WILL BE PART OF THE SAME HOA, UH, AND SHARE THE SAME, UH, OPEN SPACE RESPONSIBILITIES AS THE 10 LOTS.
UH, BUILDING ELEVATIONS ARE CONSISTENT, WHICH INCLUDES BUILDING MATERIALS, UH, STREET TREES, UH, ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE BLAIR ESTATES CASE.
UH, I MENTIONED THE RIGHT OF WAY ON BLAIR ROAD AS WELL AS A CASH PROFFER, UH, FOR TWO LOTS.
UH, TWO OF THE THREE LOTS 'CAUSE THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING HOUSE THERE, UH, THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR CAPITAL IMPACT MODEL TO, UM, ELIMINATE THE IMPACT.
AND THAT'S, UH, MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND, UH, THE APPLICANT IS ALSO IN ATTENDANCE.
ARE ANY OF THE HOMES IN BLAIR STATE'S OCCUPIED NOW? I THINK THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY THAT ARE CURRENTLY OCCUPIED.
MR. BODE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, UH, CLARIFY THAT FOR YOU.
IS THIS CONSISTENT LOT SIZE WITH BLAIR ESTATES? IT'S ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT BIGGER, BUT YES.
AND THEY ARE SLIGHTLY BUFFERS ARE THE SAME? BUFFERS ARE THE SAME? I ASSUME THE HOMES ARE KIND OF IN THE SAME STYLE AS HE BELIEVES? YES.
THE, THE ELEVATIONS ARE CONSISTENT.
UH, THE SIZE ARE THE SIZE MINIMUM.
LI UH, MINIMUM FLOOR AREA IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS, UM, PROFFERED BACK IN 2021.
WHAT'S A PROVISION FOR UTILITIES SINCE THE ON IN THE TC? YEAH, SO INTERESTING.
UH, THIS AREA WA WAS ELIGIBLE FOR UTILITIES PRIOR TO, UM, THE TCSD BEING DEVELOPED.
SO THERE IS CAPACITY, UM, IN, IN, UH, TO A CERTAIN DEGREE SOUTH OF PATTERSON AVENUE.
SO THEY ARE ABLE TO, UM, HOOK UP, UH, THAT WAY.
SO IT ACTUALLY WORKS OUT FOR THEM THAT THERE IS STILL CAPACITY LEFT.
WHERE DOES THE WATER COME FROM? HENRI GO.
SO THEY'VE GOTTA RUN A LINE FROM PATTERSON DOWN BLAIR ROAD INTO THE SUB DEVELOPMENT.
MAYBE THE APPLICANT AN CAN ANSWER.
I DO KNOW THAT THEY ARE GETTING ALIGNED THAT MAY JUST BE SEWERED, UM, TO THE, TO THE EAST.
SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT HE WILL BE ABLE TO SHOW YOU.
I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS AN EASEMENT THAT IS ON THIS, SO THERE'S AN EASEMENT, UM, RIGHT THERE THAT LEADS BACK TO A CONNECTION OF ONE OF THE UTILITIES.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING.
UM, WE ARE CELEBRATING OUR 35TH ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE HEADQUARTERED IN GLAND COUNTY AT 62 BROAD STREET ROAD IN, IN MANNEQUINS ABBOT.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JAMIE SHERRY, TOM COLEMAN, RAY CASH, AND ALL THE OTHER COUNTY STAFF, UM, THAT HAVE FURTHER WORK GETTING THIS CASE TO WHERE IT IS NOW.
UM, BEFORE YOU, UM, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, WE WERE CONTACTED BY THE OWNERS OF THIS PROPERTY, MR. HARS AND, AND MS. SHEPHERD, UM, ABOUT POTENTIALLY PURCHASING THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY HAD BEEN EXTREMELY ACCOMMODATIVE DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF BLAIR ESTATES, UM, THE REZONING OF AND APPROVALS OF BLAIR ESTATES, UM, WITH US, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SOMETHING WORK FOR THEM.
UM, WE THEREFORE FILED THE NECESSARY PRE-APPLICATION MEETING, UM, COMMUNITY MEETING, AND FILED OUR ZONING CASE FOR THE THREE ACRES.
THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION, I BELIEVE IS A REASONABLE REQUEST FOR, UM, AN ADDITION TO THE HIGH QUALITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, AND JUST FROM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STYLE OF HOMES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
IT'S FOUR SIDES BRICK IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, REALLY HIGH, HIGH END, HIGH QUALITY.
UM, WE, WE LIKE TO DELIVER A HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT AND WE WANT TO CONTINUE THAT ON THESE THREE LOTS.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD ASK THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL THIS CASE, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS? ARE THERE ANY OCCUPIED HOMES IN BLAIR STATES NEIGHBORHOOD? UH, WE CLOSE OUR FIRST ONE NEXT MONTH.
UM, AND THAT'S THE FIRST ONE THAT'S GONNA BE UNTIL PROBABLY SPRINGTIME OF, OF NEXT YEAR.
WE'VE SOLD SEVEN OF THE 10 HOMES IN THAT COMMUNITY ALREADY.
AND THE, THE ACCESS ROAD IS CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR CONSTRUCTION THERE.
THE BLAIR STATE COURT IS, IS BUILT, IT'S PAVED.
IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY COMPLETED.
SO, UM, WATER AND SEWER ALREADY RUNNING.
UM, BASICALLY DOWN TO, UM, TO, TO THAT PROPERTY.
WE'D HAVE TO DO SOME EXTENSION WORK, UM, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO MAKE THAT WORK FOR THESE THREE LOTS.
JUST AN EXTENSION OF WHAT YOU HAVE EXISTING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU.
I'LL OPEN UP NOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
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ANY COMMENTS? MR. CHAIRMAN? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED.I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF REZONING RZ 2 0 2 3 DASH 0 0 0 1 3 FOR THREE ACRES AT 4 71 BLAIR ROAD FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL GENERAL R THREE WITH PREFERRED CONDITIONS AS AMENDED.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON DECEMBER 5TH, 2023 WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS IN DISTRICT FOUR, RZ 20 23 9.
APPLICATION BY TOWN AND COUNTRY REALTY PARTNERS LLC
[4. District 4 - RZ-2023-00009 Application by Towne & Country Realty Partners, LLC requesting a rezoning of 55.207 acres from Agricultural, Limited (A-2) to Residential Planned Unit Development (RPUD), with proffered conditions, for a residential subdivision on Hockett Road and Goins Road on Tax Map Nos. 58-1-0-73-0, 58-1-0-79-0, and portions of 58-1-0-79-A and 58-1-0-72-T. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Single-Family Residential, Medium Density and Semi-Public.]
REQUESTING A REZONING OF 55.207 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL PLAN UN DEV UNIT DEVELOPMENT RPUD WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS FOR A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION ON HOCKET ROAD AND GOINS ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBERS 58 1 0 73 58 1 0 79 0 AND PORTIONS OF 58 79 A AND 58 72 T.THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY, AND SEMI-PUBLIC.
UH, GOOD EVENING FOR THE RECORD.
I'M, I AM RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I'LL BE WITH YOU FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE EVENING.
UH, SO THE FIRST PRESENTATION I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT, UM, AS REFERENCED BY MS. PARKER IS A REZONING CASE, UH, FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, 55 ACRES.
IT'S, IT'S LOCATED, LOCATED WESTLAW OF HOCKET AND GOS ROAD, OR REQUESTED FOR PED.
UM, LOT OF COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATIONS FOR ITSELF AND WHERE IT'S LOCATED.
WE'LL WALK THROUGH THOSE AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
UM, THIS IS LOCATED GENERALLY, UM, SOUTHERN PART OF THE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE AREA, BUT GENERALLY, UM, EASTERN, UH, PORTION OF THE COUNTY AND IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM READERS BRANCH, UH, TO THE NORTH IS ON PARK CENTERVILLE, UM, DOWN FURTHER SOUTH WITH SONGBIRD.
A CASE YOU HEARD A WHILE AGO AT, I MEAN A FEW OF LAST YEAR, AND ALSO LOOKING AT ACROSS THE STREET IS THE WEST CREEK DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY A TWO AS OUR, AS PART OF THE SOUNDING SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, THERE IS A RURAL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY BEHIND IT.
AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S UM, TARGET, CENTERVILLE AND READERS BRANCH THAT ARE, UM, ALSO ZONED OUR PUD AND THE CENTERVILLE AREA IS THE M ONE PROPERTY HERE.
UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES HAVE SEMI-PUBLIC.
THERE IS CURRENTLY LOCATED A CHURCH ON THAT, UM, PROPERTY WHICH WILL BE PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
THE CHURCH WILL REMAIN, UM, IT'S DESIGNATED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY ITSELF.
THERE IS SOME SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY THAT'S TO THE SOUTH.
A PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY IS BEING INCLUDED WITHIN THIS REQUEST.
UM, AND AGAIN, ACROSS THE STREET IS PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DESIGNATIONS.
UH, WOULD LIKE TO EXPLAIN, UH, WHAT THOSE DESIGNATIONS MEAN.
SEMI-PUBLIC REALLY REVERE THIS PROPERTIES THAT ARE TYPICALLY CHURCHES, PRIVATE SCHOOLS OR CEMETERIES.
SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY NOT A PUBLIC USE, BUT IT'S OFTEN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR DIFFERENT USES.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE EXISTING CHURCH WILL REMAIN, UM, IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION.
IT WILL NOW BE A SEPARATE PARCEL THAN WHAT IS BEING ADDED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SINGLE FAMILY MEDIUM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES ARE AN AVERAGE LOT SIZE OF ONE ACRE IS THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.
I FEEL LIKE WE TALK ABOUT THAT EVERY MONTH.
UM, THE PROPOSAL WOULD PROVIDE FOR LOTS SMALLER THAN WHAT THE LAND USE CATEGORY IS, BUT THEY'RE PROPOSING REALLY RESULTS IN A LAND DENSITY OF 0.92 DRAWING UNITS PER ACRE.
UM, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WOULD EXPECT FROM THE DENSITY STANDPOINT.
IN ADDITION, WE GET PROVISION OF OPEN SPACE, PUBLIC ROADS, BUFFERS, AND UM, AMENITIES.
THE ADJACENT NEARBY PROPERTY AROUND IT, EAST, WEST, AND NORTH ARE LANDS DESIGNATED AS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL PROVIDES FOR A MAXIMUM OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY OF 2.5 UNITS PER ACRE.
THUS THE RPUD, UM, APPLICATIONS I REFERENCED NEIGHBORING USES UNDER THAT PARK.
CENTERVILLE, WHICH IS 1.921 UNITS AN ACRE AND READER'S BRANCH ACROSS THE STREET, 1.98 ON UNITS PER THE ACRE.
AND AS MENTIONED BEFORE, ACROSS THE STREET IS PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH WEST CREEK.
THIS IS LOCATING THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA.
THIS IS AREAS OF THE COUNTY THAT WE DO ANTICIPATE, UM, GROWTH TO OCCUR, UM,
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BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.UM, THAT IS INTENDED TO REDUCE PRESSURE IN OUR RURAL AREAS.
THIS IS THE AREA THAT THE COUNTY HAS PLANNED FOR.
PROVIDES EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE TO INCLUDE UTILITIES FOR, UM, TO PERVERT, YOU KNOW, TO ENCOURAGE THAT DEVELOPMENT HERE.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IN THE TCSD BOUNDARY.
THEY HAVE MADE APPLICATION FOR A MINUTES INTO THE TCSD, UM, STAFF EVALUATION OF THE USE IS, IT'S REALLY IN A VILLAGE AND DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA WHERE WE EXPECT, UH, THE USE OF PUBLIC, UH, UTILITIES AND DEVELOPMENT.
IT MATCHES THE LAND USE DENSITY IF IT DOES NOT MATCH THE LOT SIZE.
I WILL SAY THE LOT SIZES FOR, UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT IS LARGER THAN WHAT WE STANDARDLY GET IN OUR PUD DISTRICT.
UM, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA AND THE DENSITY, UM, AND LOT SIZE, UH, LIKE I SAID, MATCHES THE DENSITY WE ANTICIPATE FOR THIS AREA.
UH, THE LOT SIZES SLIGHTLY SMALLER, UM, BUT THE INTENT IS WE ALSO GET AMENITIES, SIDEWALKS, AND THE LIKE.
THAT'S A BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY.
UH, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BACK IN JUNE, UH, FOR 38, UM, RESIDENTS OR CITIZENS ATTENDED.
THERE WAS SUPERVISOR PETERSON, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR MR. ROCK.
CHARLIE AND MEMBER
UM, BUT, BUT THE CONCERNS THAT CAME ABOUT THE PUBLIC AT THE TIME WAS BUFFERS ALONG ADJACENT PROPERTIES, UM, PRO STUB ROAD LOCATION.
THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUES, UH, USE OF THE TCSD VALUE OF HOMES WETLAND IMPACT, UM, LACK OF CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD SECTIONS.
HOW THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD PHASE AND AS WE WOULD EXPECT MOST OFTEN WAS THE IMPACT ON HOCKET ROAD AND HOCKETT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
THERE WAS ALSO A QUESTION BECAUSE PART OF THIS PROPERTY DOES STUB INTO, UM, A COUNTY PROPERTY.
UM, THE COUNTY HAS NOT DESIGNATED THE USE FOR THAT PROPERTY AT THIS TIME.
UM, BUT STUB ROAD, UH, DOES NOT NEGATE, UH, THE ABILITY TO USE THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS OFFERED BY THE APPLICANT.
I WOULD NOTE, UH, THERE'S BUFFERS ALONG HOCKET ROAD THROUGH HERE.
WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS THE EXISTENCE OF GOINS ROAD.
THE MAJORITY OF GOINS ROAD AREA IS ACTUALLY IN THE, UM, FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY OF H ROAD.
UM, THERE ARE A COUPLE RESIDENTS, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THAT ARE SERVED BY THE ROAD.
ONE OF THE, UM, PROFFERS AND ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT THIS APPLICANT APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS TO HAVE AN ACCESS TO THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THIS WOULD ABANDON THE, UM, PORTION OF, UH, GOINS ROAD THAT IS THERE.
BUT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BASICALLY FORM A HAMMERHEAD OR A SORT OF AT TURNAROUND THAT WOULD BE USABLE, UM, FOR THE RESIDENTS THERE OR FOR PUBLIC SAFETY SHOULD THEY NEED TO GO DOWN.
THERE IS ALSO A PROVISION OF OPEN SPACE AMENITIES, UH, STREET TREES, THE TYPICAL THAT WE EXPECT WITH AN RPD, INCLUDING PERIMETER BUFFERS.
AND ALSO, UM, THEY AS SHOWN IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THAT IS THEY PR TO USE, UM, THE UPDATED ROAD DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH WE ACTUALLY WE WILL TALK ABOUT LATER TONIGHT, WHICH WE'RE ASKING TO CODIFY THIS APPLICANT IS SORT OF RUNNING PARALLEL WITH THAT ORDINANCE.
AND SO THEY'VE OFFERED TO DO THIS IMPROVE ROADS.
SO SUMMARY OF THE PROFFERS, A MAXIMUM OF 51 LOTS, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THEY WILL PROVIDE RIGHT TURN LANES.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THE LEFT TURN LANES ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
THAT HAS A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG THE NORTHEASTERN PROPERTY LINE OF POCKET AND 50 FOOT ALONG THE SOUTHEASTERN LINE OF POCKET.
PART OF THAT REDUCTION IS BECAUSE OF THAT EXISTING LAYOUT OF GOINS ROAD, UM, FOR THAT, AND PROBABLY THERE'S GONNA BE A LONG TERM BEFORE HAW WIDEN IN THAT AREA.
SO THIS, UH, THE BUFFER PROPOSED TO BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE, THE TIME.
UM, PROFFERED ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, RECREATIONAL MOVEMENT, UH, AMENITIES, CONSTRUCTION HOUR LIMITATION, WHICH WAS BECOME MORE COMMON, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS OF INFILL, UM, PUBLIC ROADS AND THE FULL CASH PROFFER.
SO LEFT LANE, LEFT TURN LANES ARE REQUIRED FOR BOTH, UM, PORTIONS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
UNDER OUR CODE, THE APPLICANT HAS PROFFER THE TURN LANE ON THE NORTHEASTERN ENTRANCE, WHICH IS THE ONE CLOSEST TO, UM, BROAD STREET ROAD.
THEY HAVE ALSO PROFFERED ETERNALLY AT THE SOUTH SOUTHEASTERN ENTRANCE, UM, UNLESS THE SPEED IS PRODUCED REDUCED.
AND SO WHAT THE APPLICANT IS LOOKING TO DO, CURRENTLY IT'S 55 THROUGH THAT AREA, THEY'RE LOOKING TO REDUCE THE SPEED LIMIT, SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO VDOT, UM, UNDER VDOT S WARRANT, NOT THE COUNTIES, BUT IN THE BDOS.
IF THE SPEED IS REDUCED TO 45 MILES OR LOWER OR LESS, IT MAY NEGATE THE NEED FOR THE LEFT TURN LANE ON THAT PORTION OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
THEY WOULD STILL HAVE THE LEFT TURN LANE CLOSEST TO BROAD STREET ROAD.
UM, SO LARGE CASE MIGHT BE COMPLICATED IN SOME PORTIONS OF IT.
SO I'M HAPPY TO ASK FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, MR. CASH? MM-HMM,
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SORT OF ALMOST AT THE SOUTHERN TIP OF, OF THAT HOCKETT ROAD PORTION.IS VDOT CURRENTLY DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY? UH, NO.
THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT PROFFERS TO SUBMIT, TO PREPARE AND SUBMIT TO VDOT, BUT IT MIGHT TAKE VDOT TWO, THREE YEARS, FOUR YEARS.
UM, IT, UH, IT COULD TAKE THEM A WHILE AND IT'S NO, IT'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THE, THAT THE FINDINGS, UM, TO UPDATE THAT.
SO WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SPEED STUDIES BEFORE.
THEY USUALLY DON'T TURN OUT THE WAY PEOPLE MAY WISH THEY'D BE.
AND THE SO WHAT IT, RIGHT, WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THEY DO THAT AND BASICALLY THEY HAVE TO DO THIS PRIOR TO, UM, PLAN DEVELOPMENT, UH, SUBMITTAL.
SO WE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THE PROFIT GOES UP IN TWO YEARS.
DO THEY PAY THE SLATED ER, UM, FOR, OH, YOU'RE TALKING THE CASH PROFFER CASH ER, RIGHT.
UM, SO STANDARDLY IT'S CASH PROFFERS, UM, OR ADJUSTED THROUGH THE, UM, OUR STANDARD MODEL, THEN THEY WOULD PAY THE INCREASED AMOUNT FOR THE CASH PROFFER.
AND SO OF COURSE THE APPLICANT'S HERE AND THEY'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M JENNIFER MULLEN WITH ROTH JACKSON HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
APPRECIATE THE STAFF PRESENTATION FOR MR. CASH.
UM, AND AS NOTED, THE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF HAW ROAD.
THIS JUST SHOWS YOU A, AN IMAGE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, IN GREEN, SORT OF IN CONTEXT OF OTHER SUBDIVISIONS.
SO IT'S JUST SOUTH OF PARKVIEW AND THE PARK AT CENTERVILLE ACROSS THE STREET FROM READER'S BRANCH.
AS WAS NOTED EARLIER, AND GENERALLY IN THE AREA, UM, BEHIND THE CHURCH, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS ASSEMBLED ALL THESE PARCELS TO BE ACREAGE JUST OVER 55 ACRES.
IT IS DESIGNATED AS MR. CASH WENT THROUGH, UM, WITH MULTIPLE CATEGORIES.
UM, WAS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY MEDIUM DENSITY, AS WELL AS BEING WITHIN THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA.
IT IS CONSISTENT WITH MULTIPLE COMPONENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE PARCELS ARE ZONED A TWO AGAIN AS MR. CASH NOTED, BUT THIS JUST SHOWS YOU THE, THE DEVELOPMENT IN CONTEXT OF OTHER DEVELOPMENTS WITH THE GREEN BEING A TWO, UM, THE PURPLE BEING M ONE AND THE ORANGE BEING OTHER RPUD DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA.
THERE IS A COMPANION REQUEST THAT IS, WILL BE BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, THAT WOULD BE TO BRING THIS PROPERTY INTO THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE WATER AND SEWER AND THAT IS CONSISTENT, UM, WITH THE, THE BOUNDARIES.
THIS JUST SHOWS YOU A, A BLACK AND WHITE VERSION OF THE, OF THE, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN JUST TO SHOW YOU HAVE THE 51 LOTS AS WAS NOTED IN TWO SECTIONS, WHICH ARE TUCKED IN SIGNIFICANTLY OFF OF HOCKETT ROAD WITH 40 LOTS IN THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE AND 11 LOTS ON THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE, AGAIN, WHICH INCLUDES THAT GOINS ROAD RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEY HAVE OPEN SPACE OF APPROXIMATELY 11 ACRES AND NINE ACRES OF BUFFER.
THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS PROVIDED THAT THE ROAD NETWORK WILL ACCOMMODATE THIS DEVELOPMENT AT ALL ACCEPTABLE LEVELS OF SERVICE AT BUILD OUT ACCOUNTING FOR ALL DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AS WELL AS BACKGROUND TRAFFIC.
THE PROFFERS INCLUDE THE RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANES WITH TAPERS AT BOTH ENTRANCES AS MR. CASH NOTED.
UM, THE SPEED STUDY IS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP AT MOST OF THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS ALONG HOCKET ROAD JUST WITH PEOPLE SPEEDING.
UM, WE ARE AWARE THAT MOST SPEED STUDIES VDOT LOOKS TO SEE IF PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING AND THAT SOMEHOW, UM, ALLOWS THEM TO SPEED MORE.
BUT WE WILL TRY, UM, TO SEE IF THE SPEED COULD BE REDUCED THERE.
AND SO THAT IS THE REASON FOR THAT, THAT PROFFER, IT DOES HAVE A, A TRIGGER THAT IF WE HAVE NOT DONE IT BY THE TIME OF LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT, THAT WE DO NEED TO, TO DO THE BOTH LEFT TURN LANES.
UM, AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT HAS A SIGNIFICANT BUFFER, AS I WILL SHOW YOU MO IN A MOMENT WITH A PARK-LIKE FEEL OFF OF HOCKET ROAD.
UM, THE STORM WATER POND WOULD BE A FEATURE OF THE AREA.
THE TRAIL SYSTEM WOULD CONNECT AND TIE BACK INTO THE SIDEWALK.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE IN YELLOW, UM, THAT IS THE TRAIL SYSTEM.
SO YOU HAVE JUST ABOUT A MILE AT THE NORTHERN ENTRANCE SIDE AND 0.2 ON THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE SIDE.
YOU HAVE NEW STREET TREES, WHICH ARE IDENTIFIED ON EACH OF THE LOTS.
THE DARK GREEN AREA IS SHOWN, UM, THAT IS TREE PRESERVATION AREAS THAT ARE ALONG THE, THE BUFFERS AND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, THIS JUST GIVES YOU A CLOSEUP OF THE ENTRANCE ON THE NORTHERN SIDE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE FRONT SHOWS THE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER, UM, AND THE MORE KELLY GREEN.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE STORMWATER POND THAT IS AGAIN, A FEATURE.
UM, YOU'VE GOT THE TRAIL AROUND IT AND THEN YOU HAVE THE
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TREES, UM, ON THE EXTERIOR AS YOU COME IN.UM, THE PORTION ON THE, THE LOWER END IS, IS THE CHURCH.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'LL BE A, A NEW ROAD.
UM, THE ENTRANCE WOULD COME IN OFF OF THE NEW ROAD, AND THEN THERE'S A WALKING TRAIL SO THAT THEY CAN COME OVER AND WALK AROUND THE POND AS WELL.
AND THIS IS THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE AREA.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
UM, THE 50 FOOT BUFFER AGAIN, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THAT, THAT GOINS ROAD AREA THAT IS PART OF THE HOCKET RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THAT ACTUALLY GETS UP TO 135 FEET AT ITS MAXIMUM.
UM, AS YOU GO TOWARDS THE NORTH AREA, IF YOU INCLUDE THAT PORTION OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY TREED, UM, WITH A BIT OF A BERM ON THAT SIDE.
UM, THIS SHOWS YOU THE PARK-LIKE FEATURE IN THE CENTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO HAVING A, A SIGNIFICANT GREEN, AGAIN WITH THE, WITH THE TRAIL COMING IN THROUGH IT.
YOU ALSO HAVE THE, THE LANDSCAPING COMPONENTS.
UM, SOME PASSIVE RECREATION THAT ALL THE HOMES ADJOINING THAT I THINK WOULD BE A, A GREAT SPOT, BUT EVERYONE CAN ENJOY THAT AS YOU CAN REACH THAT THROUGH THE TRAIL SYSTEM AND THE SIDEWALKS.
UM, THIS JUST SHOWS SOME REPRESENTATIVE IMAGE OF THE, OF THE FEATURES WITH THE WALKING TRAIL.
UM, THE TYPES OF MONUMENT SIGN THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED, THE PAVILION AREA, UM, AND THE AMENITY FEATURE OF THE STORMWATER POND.
THIS SHOWS THE, THE QUALITY OF THE, EXCUSE ME, THE QUALITY OF THE, THE BUILDING, UM, MATERIALS.
JUST SOME REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES OF THE HOMES HERE.
WE DO EXPECT THAT THOSE WOULD BE, UM, PROBABLY A MINIMUM OF 4,000 SQUARE FEET, UM, STARTING AROUND NINE HUNDREDS AND GOING UP FROM THERE.
AND THIS SHOWS JUST THE OVERALL SITE PLAN AGAIN.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE ITEMS PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED, THE, THE PROFFERS DO INCLUDE THE LIMITATION ON CONSTRUCTION HOURS, UM, WITH A LATER START ON SUNDAY TO ACCOMMODATE THE CHURCH.
UM, THE FULL CASH PROFFER IS BEING PAID.
ADDITIONAL TREE PRESERVATIONS ARE OFF AREAS ARE ALSO BEING PROVIDED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE TIP THERE, UM, THAT AREA IS BEING PROVIDED AS A TREE PRESERVATION AREA AND THAT WOULD ALSO BE GOVERNED BY THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
UM, HAS THE SAME REQUIREMENTS THAT THE BUFFERS ALONG HOCKET.
SO IF TREES ARE DEBTOR DISEASE, THEN THAT WOULD BE, UM, INCLUDED WITH THE HOMEOWNER'S OBLIGATION, HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATE OBLIGATION TO ENSURE THAT THOSE GET REPLANTED.
THE EXISTING OVERHEAD POWER LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE UNDERGROUNDED, UM, AND ALL UTILITIES WILL BE PUT UNDERGROUND.
UM, WITH THAT I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
CAN YOU POINT OUT TO COUNTY PROPERTY? UH, YES.
IT MIGHT NEED TO GO BACK TO MR. CASH'S, BUT IF YOU LOOK WHERE THE, THE STUB.
IF WE GO BACK TO, YOU HAVE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IN HERE TOO.
IT'S ABOUT 80 PLUS ACRES PROPERTY, RIGHT? UM, THERE YOU GO.
SO IT'S, IT'S THE, IT'S ACTUALLY THIS A TWO RIGHT THERE THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT HERE THAT COMES BACK OUT.
IT HAS CONNECTION AND HO AND THEN THE STUB.
SO HOW WOULD THAT BE ACCESSED? NOT THROUGH THE SUB DEVELOPMENT? NO, SIR.
BUT WE DO HAVE TO PROVIDE STUBS.
VDOT REQUIRES US TO CONNECT, PROVIDE CONNECTIONS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THAT ONE, UM, SO THE, THE CONNECTION IS THERE, BUT THERE'S NO ACCESS TO IT.
SO YOU CAN SEE ON OUR SITE PLAN, UM, WE ACTUALLY STOPPED SHORT AND VDOT MADE US GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER
BUT THE, THE BUFFER IS IN BETWEEN THE CUL-DE-SAC AND THE, AND THE COUNTY PROPERTY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU.
I OLD ENOUGH FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
HELLO, I'M STEVEN SHORROCK, 12 2 0 1 BREMNER RIDGE CIRCLE MANNEQUIN SABA.
I'M SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THIS APPLICATION WITH AMENDMENTS.
THERE WILL BE OTHER, UM, RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, UH, PRO PROJECTS PROPOSED ALONG HOCKET ROAD.
IF YOU DRIVE NORTH, PARDON ME, IF YOU DRIVE ON HOCKET ROAD, THERE'S A LOT OF AVAILABLE LAND ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD PLUS A FIRE STATION THAT'S GONNA BE COMING IN THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO, THAT'S GOING TO NEED TO BE ABLE TO PASS VEHICLES.
THIS APPLICATION HAS A SPEED STUDY TO DECIDE WHETHER THERE WILL BE A LEFT HAND TURN LANE
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INTO THE SOUTHERN SECTION OF THE PROJECT.I'M REQUESTING A CHANGE IN SECTION TWO, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS B TURN LANES.
I'M REQUESTING THAT REGARDLESS OF THE RESULTS OF THE SPEED STUDY, PLEASE CONSIDER REQUIRING UNCONDITIONALLY AT THE SOUTHERN END OF THE PROPERTY, A NORTHBOUND LEFT TURN LANE WITH 200 FOOT FEET OF STORAGE AND A TAPER LENGTH OF 200 FEET.
NEXT, THERE IS NO PATH INCLUDED ALONG HOCKET ROAD FOR SECTION ONE.
IF WE ARE TO HAVE A WALKABLE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE, THEN EACH DEVELOPMENT SHOULD INCLUDE A PATH ON HOCKET ROAD FOR FUTURE CONNECTIONS.
THIRD, ALSO REGARDING WALKABLE.
THERE IS NO WALKING CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO SECTIONS.
THE GOINS ROAD SECTION WILL BE CUT OFF FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS, THEIR OWN HOA AND ANY WALKING ACCESS TO THE REST OF CENTERVILLE.
THIS CAN BE FIXED BY A 20 OR 30 FOOT BOARDWALK OR BRIDGE ACROSS A NARROW PIECE OF WETLANDS.
THERE IS NO BRIDGE AT MADIGAN BRIDGE ACROSS HOCKET ROAD EAGLE BUILT A 200 FOOT BOARDWALK ACROSS READER'S BRANCH.
SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO ASK THE APPLICANT, SCOTT, ARE YOU REALLY GONNA LET JOSH BE THE ONLY DEVELOPER IN CENTERVILLE TO HAVE A BOARD WALK? THANK YOU.
ANYBODY ELSE WISH TO COMMENT? WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YES, THE A WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANY THE COMMENTS? MR. CHAIRMAN, AGAIN, JENNIFER MULLEN WITH ROTH JACKSON.
WE APPRECIATE, UM, MR. SCHROCK'S COMMENTS AND WE'LL TAKE THEM UNDER ADVISEMENT.
UM, JUST ABOUT THE TIMING, UM, FIRST OF ALL, A CENTERVILLE VILLAGE PLAN IS STILL BEING DISCUSSED AND, UM, NO, IT'S NOT, HUH? IT'S NOT TABLE DONE.
HAVE WE APPROVED? HAVE WE APPROVED IT? NO, IT WENT AWAY.
DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION? MM-HMM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I THINK THIS IS A PRETTY BUTTONED UP, UH, PRESENTATION FROM TOWN AND COUNTRY AND, UH, I MAKE MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THAT THE COMMISSION, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL WAS REZONING RZ 2 0 2 3 0 0 0 0 9 4 52 0.27 ACRES ON TAX MAP NUMBER 58 1 7 3 AND 58 DASH 1 7 9 AND PORTIONS OF 51 9 58 1 0 7 A AND 58 0 72 DASH T FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT RPUD WITH PREFERRED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
I'LL SECOND IT WITH, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT, UH, THE, UH, PROVISIONS OF MR. SCHROCK, UH, MENTIONED THE DEVELOPER SAID THAT THEY WOULD LOOK INTO THAT WITH THE, UH, WHEN THEY GO TO THE NEXT PHASE.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, MO SECOND, THE MOTION, I, I WOULD ECHO MR. ROCK, CHARLIE, UM, AS WELL, UM, TO TRY AND HAVE THAT RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANE, UM, AT BOTH ENTRANCES AS WELL AS THE WALKABILITY.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IF POCKET ROAD IS WIDENED, IF ANYTHING'S PLACED ON POCKET ROAD, THAT MIGHT BECOME A MOOT POINT.
SO, BUT BETWEEN THE TWO, THAT WOULD BE NICE.
SO MR. PUCK, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION.
UM, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, I, I GOT THE RIGHT, UM, THE LEFT TURN LANE AND THEN THE, THE CONNECTIVITY, IS THAT A SPECIFIC PROFFER? UM, UM, I THINK THERE'S A PROFFER REGARDING, I MEAN, THEY HAVE WALKING TRAILS PROPOSED.
I DO NOT THINK THAT IT AT THIS POINT, IT, IT GOES INTO THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS.
SO PART OF THE POINT WAS, UM, IF, IF CAPTURE
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WHAT IF YOU'RE, I'M NOT SURE WHO'S ADDRESSING COMMENTS.I THINK WAS CONNECTION NOT JUST BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT POTENTIALLY A LONG OCK ROAD.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE WHICH YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO THINK MY COMMENT WAS IT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE ALONG OCK ROAD IT MIGHT NOT MAKE SENSE, SENSE AT THE PRESENT TIME DUE TO THE, YOU KNOW, FUTURE WIDENING OF POCKET ROAD, BUT DEFINITELY BETWEEN THE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS, IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
IS THAT FAIR ENOUGH, MR. ROCK? CHARLIE? YES.
IN ADDITION TO THE RIGHT AND LEFT YEAH.
WHAT, WHAT NUMBER IS THE WALK OF CHARLES? OH, IS IT NUMBER NINE? THE RECREATIONAL AMENITIES? JUST LOOK AT THE PROPERTY.
DO YOU WANNA NUMBER NINE? YEAH.
PART OF THAT PROPOSE SOME WORDS TO ADD TO THAT.
UM, WELL, I THINK, UH, OR IS THAT WHAT MS. UH, WHAT MS. MULLINS, UH, BROUGHT UP IS MS. MULLINS BROUGHT UP IS THAT POTENTIALLY THAT AREA IS ACTUALLY A WETLANDS AREA THAT WHERE THE, THE CONNECTION IS OKAY.
I MEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A PROFFERED CONDITION, SO IF THE APPLICANT ISN'T GONNA OFFER IT, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT, WE CAN'T AMEND THE CONDITIONS, RIGHT? SO, UM, WE COULD, WE COULD NOTE THE RECOMMENDATIONS BUT, UM, CORRECT.
WE CAN'T AMEND THE PROFFERS WITHOUT THE APPLICANT AMENDING THE PROFFERS.
THE APPLICANT'S DONE AN AWFUL LOT NOT TO HAVE BUT ONE PERSON SPEAK AND THEY WERE SPEAKING FOR IT, NOT NECESSARILY AGAINST IT.
UM, SO MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, UM, IS ON THE FLOOR, MR. MYERS.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON DECEMBER 5TH, 2023 WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TONIGHT IS COUNTYWIDE ZOA 20 23 3 AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE, COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 15,
[5. Countywide - ZOA-2023-00003 Amendment to Zoning Ordinance (County Code Chapter 15) and Amendment to Subdivision Ordinance (County Code Appendix B) to improve access management and update road standards.]
AND AMENDMENT TO SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, COUNTY CODE APPENDIX B TO IMPROVE ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND UPDATE ROAD STANDARDS.UH, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I, AGAIN, I AM RAY CASH, JUST THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE HAVE TWO ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
THIS WILL INCLUDE AMENDMENTS TO SECTIONS OF CHAPTER 15, WHICH ARE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, NAMED APPENDIX B, OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
UH, REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO IS ADDRESS PROVISIONS OF ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND ROAD DESIGN.
SO PART OF THE PURPOSE, UM, PART OF THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS TO REALLY PROMOTE CONSISTENTLY BETWEEN WHAT WE HAVE AND OUR MTP, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REALLY ABOUT CONSISTENCY BETWEEN PLANNED ROADS AND THE ORDINANCES, PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE WANNA PROTECT IMPROVEMENTS FROM FUTURE ROAD EXPANSION, INCLUDE BETTER ROAD, UH, MAINTENANCE, AND ALSO, UH, PROMOTE BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, CONSISTENCY WITH THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
CURRENTLY THE CLASSIFICATIONS LISTED INSIDE THE ZONING ORDINANCE DON'T CORRESPOND, WHICH, WHICH, WHICH IS WHEN OUR MTP MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN OR WITH VDOT STANDARDS.
SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT REALLY AFFECTS RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION WE GET AND OTHER DESIGN STANDARDS OR OTHER TYPE CLARIFICATIONS WE HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE ABOUT ROAD TYPES.
UM, OUR ACCESS MANAGEMENT STANDARDS OFTEN DIFFER FROM VDOT.
UM, WE HAVE DIFFERENT SPACING REQUIREMENTS, UH, DIFFERENT, UH, TURN LANE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AS FAR AS DESIGN, UM, WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE REALLY MATCH VDOT STANDARDS IN MOST THINGS.
UM, WE WOULD STILL KEEP ADDITIONAL TURN LANE FOR PROVISION OF TURN LANES LIKE WE JUST TALKED ABOUT IN THIS, IN THIS CASE, IN OUR CODE.
UM, WE WANNA ALSO UPDATE THE COMMERCIAL TO DRIVE STANDARDS TO MAKE REALLY MATCH FIRE CODE.
THEY ARE REALLY INSUFFICIENT, UM, FOR OUR COMMERCIAL DESIGN STANDARDS TO SATISFY WHAT THE NEEDS OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, WE'RE UPDATING ALSO IN THE ORDINANCE, UH, THAT OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS REQUIREMENTS AND PROVISIONS.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN USING THIS CURRENTLY IN PRACTICE AND POLICY.
THIS IS TO MAKE THE ORDINANCE MATCH THAT AND IT'S BEEN WORKING PRETTY WELL.
UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING ALSO IS WHAT WE CALL THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY DETERMINATION.
UH, GOING BACK TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, ROADS, OTHER ROAD PLANS THAT VDOT HAS OR OTHER LIKE ROAD PLANS OR, UM, DEVELOPMENT PLANS THAT WE HAVE REALLY THOSE DETERMINE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND WHAT THE, UM, DESIGN RIGHT OF WAY WOULD BE.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY BASICALLY ALLOWS FOR DEDICATION AND PLAN RIGHT AWAY.
ANOTHER PART OF THAT IS REALLY IS REQUIRES SETBACKS FROM THAT ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY THAT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM MAKING INVESTMENTS SUCH AS BUILDING BUILDINGS, PARKING OR OTHER TYPE OF IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IN THAT ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY, THIS PREVENTS DAMAGE
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TO TO THOSE DURING FUTURE CONSTRUCTION.IT DOESN'T TAKE UNLESS THEY DEDICATE IT, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS PREVENTING FUTURE, UM, IMPAIRMENTS OR DAMAGE TO, UH, PEOPLE'S PROPERTY ALSO REQUIRE, UM, BUFFERS ALONG COLLECTOR ARTERIAL ROADS.
IT'S BECOME PRETTY STANDARD, UM, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS THAT THE BOARD DOES REQUEST IN THEIR POLICY THAT WE HAVE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFERS ALONG HIGHER, UM, VOLUME ROADS, UM, VARIES, COULD BE MAJOR COLLECTORS, MINOR ARTERIALS ON UP.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THIS PROPOSAL WAS GOING, LET'S GO AHEAD AND CODIFY THAT POLICY.
UM, STAFF PROPOSES THAT WE HAVE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG TER ROADS AND A 50 FOOT BUFFER ALONG COLLECTOR ROADS.
IS THERE A LESSER VOLUME ROAD? UM, YOU KNOW, WE FELT LIKE A HUNDRED WASN'T NECESSARY IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE.
UM, ALL ROADS WOULD BE PUBLIC UNDER THIS REQUEST FOR RESIDENTIAL, UM, ROADS IN MINOR SUDDEN, EXCEPT FOR UH, ROADS AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS THAT SERVE NO MORE THAN FOUR LOTS, ROADS AND FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS SERVING NO MORE THAN SIX LOTS.
UH, ROADS ALSO IN TOWNHOUSE ARE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT THAT'S NOT PROVIDED FOR THE GENERAL CIRCULATION OF THE ROADS.
UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHERE THERE'S HIGHER TRAFFIC VOLUME, ESPECIALLY IN TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT, YOU WANT THOSE ROADS MAINTAINED 'CAUSE IT'S A LOT FOR A DEVELOPMENT TO UP UPKEEP.
UM, AND ALSO SPECIFICALLY THAT EXCEPTIONS TO THE STANDARD COULD BE REQUESTED AT THE TIME OF REZONING OR REZONING.
UH, PRIVATE ROADS AS WE GO FORWARD SHOULD BE BUILT TO VDOT STANDARDS AND THE FIRE OR FIRE PREVENTION CODE AS APPLICABLE.
UM, PUBLIC ROAD IMPROVEMENTS OR REQUIREMENTS, UM, SHOULD MEET VDOT OR FIRE CODE.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT AS WE GO FOR A LITTLE BIT, UM, SOME UPDATED DESIGN STANDARDS WE'VE REQUESTED IN GLAND TO ADDRESS A FEW ISSUES.
UM, WE HAVE UPDATED SUBDIVISION ROAD DESIGNS.
PARTIALLY A LOT OF THIS CAME FROM, UM, BOARD DIRECTION AND DISCUSSION WITH, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
UM, CITIZENS COMPLAINTS AND CONCERN WE DIFFERENT THAN A LOT OF OTHER LOCALITIES HAVE ADOPTED, UM, ADDITIONAL PORTIONS OF APPENDIX D, WHICH IS THE INTERNATIONAL FIRE CODE, AND THAT REALLY DEALS WITH, UM, ACCESS, UH, FIRE LANE ACCESS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WHERE PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS TO GET IN THERE.
YOU KNOW, PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, INTERNATIONAL FIRE CARRIER REALLY TALKS ABOUT 30 LOTS OFF OF A SINGLE ACCESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE IN HERE IS THERE'S CERTAIN PROVISIONS WHERE FIRE LIE SIGNS ARE REQUIRED.
IT VARIES BY THE ROAD TYPE, THE DISTANCE OR WHETHER OR NOT FIRE HYDRANTS ARE ALONG THE ROAD.
UM, SO WE WERE REALLY DIRECTED TO TRY TO AVOID THAT SITUATION.
PEOPLE WERE MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THOUGHT THEY COULD PARK ON THE ROAD.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAD SMALLER LOTS.
THIS REALLY HAPPENED, ESPECIALLY IN SORT OF THE HIGHER DENSITY AREAS AND REALIZED THEY COULDN'T PARK ON THE ROAD.
PLUS, THEY'RE NOT VERY ATTRACTIVE FOR A COMMUNITY TO HAVE EVERY, YOU KNOW, 50 FEET OR EVERY, JUST ON EVERY LOT.
UM, SO WE'VE ALSO DONE THAT TO MAKE CONSISTENT PAVEMENT DESIGNS.
WE WANTED TO HAVE A MAKE SURE WE HAD A GOOD PAVEMENT DESIGN THAT IS, UM, HOLDS UP OVER TIME, EASILY UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR PEOPLE.
SO AGAIN, FOR PRIVATE ROAD SUBDIVISIONS, WHICH WOULD BE REALLY THE MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, TWO LOTS CAN SHARE, HAVE A SHARED DRIVE THAT'S ANTICIPATED.
BUT ANYTIME THAT YOU JUMP UP TO THREE OR FOUR LOTS, WE EXPECT CERTAIN ADDITIONAL STANDARDS.
PART OF THAT IS THERE'S AN ACCESS REQUIREMENT OFF THE PUBLIC ROAD BY VDOT, BUT WE'D ALSO LOOK FOR A MINIMUM OF SIX INCH GRAVEL STONE, MINIMUM OF 20 FOOT WIDTH FOR THE FIRE CODE.
THAT MAY ALSO INCREASE THE DEEPER THAT ROAD GOES ACCORDING TO FIRE CODE AND IT SHOULD BE CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING OUR FIRE APPARATUS.
UM, THE ORDINANCE ALSO REALLY DISCOURAGES THE USE OF ALLEYS.
UM, ALLEYS ARE BECOME A REALLY INTEGRAL PART OF DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY IN TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT SOME OF WHAT WE CONSIDER CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A LOT OF SMALLER LOTS, ALLEYS CAN HAVE A GOOD PURPOSE.
YOU CAN ALLOW THE BUILDINGS CLOSER TO THE ROAD, PEOPLE CAN ACCESS FROM THE REAR AND THE LIKE.
SO WHAT STAFF HAS ASKED THOUGH IS THAT WE ALLOW THOSE TO OCCUR THROUGH TENTATIVE REVIEW OF THE SUBDIVISION.
UM, WE'VE INCORPORATED SOME DESIGN STANDARDS IN THE ORDINANCE AND WE REALLY THINK THAT IT ALLOWS FOR A BETTER OPTION, UM, OF DESIGN FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE APPROVED ONE DEVELOPMENT LAST, UH, WELL ACTUALLY END OF 20, I MEAN EARLY 22, 22 I BELIEVE FOR THE READER'S BRANCH THAT WHAT WE CALL THE GILMAN PROPERTY THAT HAD A TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT.
PART OF THAT WILL HAVE ALLEYS LOCATED WITHIN THAT, UM, ROAD DESIGN FOR SUBDIVISION ROADS, FIVE OR MORE PUBLIC ROADS, WE EXPECT CURB AND GUTTER, WHERE THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS LESS THAN 100 FEET.
UM, USUALLY WHEN YOU START TO GET TO THOSE TYPE OF DESIGNS, UH, PORTIONS, UH, IT'S NOT REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR, UM, FOR A DITCH SECTION.
THIS ALSO PROVIDES AND INCORPORATES THE, UH, DESIGNS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
MOST OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, OF COURSE, WOULD EXPECT WHATEVER EXPECTATION IS SIDEWALK ALONG ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, PART OF THE DESIGN.
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ACCOUNTS FOR THE SIDEWALK WITHIN RIGHT OF WAY.UM, ANOTHER CONCEPT THAT WE'RE PUTTING FORWARD AT THIS TIME IS REALLY TO SORT OF ACCOMMODATE WHAT WE'VE SEEN AS THESE HIGHER VOLUME DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE COMING ABOUT, UM, WHERE THERE'S A LONG ROAD THAT HAS LOTS OF LOTS BEING SERVED AND COMING ONTO THAT.
BUT ALSO THERE'S LOTS THAT, UM, THERE ARE LOTS THAT ARE BEING BUILT ON THAT ROAD.
SO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN, IN A FEW NEIGHBORHOODS IS THERE'S A CONFLICT THERE.
SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE THE FIRE LANE SIGNS, BUT ALSO WE'VE SEEN THAT PEOPLE BACKING ONTO, ONTO THE ROADS, UM, INTERRUPTION ONGOING CONSTRUCTION ALONG THOSE ROADS HAS CAUSED CONFLICTS AND DELAYS.
UM, AND ALSO SOME PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS WHERE WE'VE HAD FIRE AND BUILDING INSPECTION OUT THERE SERVING DIFFERENT TYPES OF VIOLATIONS AGAINST THEM.
UM, SO WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT IT WOULD BE A NO LOCK FRONTAGE ROAD, WHICH WE'D REFER TO AS SORT OF A RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR IN THIS CONCEPT.
IF A DEVELOPMENT HAS 200 PLUS UNITS OR WHEREVER THE CUMULATIVE TRAFFIC VOLUMES COULD EXCEED 2000 VEHICLES PER DAY.
AND THE CONCEPT IS, UM, SO IF YOU HAVE 180 LOTS, BUT BY THE STU ROADS, YOU'RE, UH, CONNECTED INTO A, UM, ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY INCREASE THAT TRAFFIC VOLUME.
WE'D EXPECT THAT ROAD DESIGN TO BE THAT WAY.
SO WHAT THAT DOES ACTUALLY ENCOURAGE SORT OF A SINGLE ROAD THAT HAS A LESSER PAVEMENT DESIGN THAT PEOPLE CAN JUST GO DOWN, UM, NOT WORRY ABOUT THE FIRE LANE SIGNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT APPROPRIATELY, UM, IF IT GETS APPROPRIATE DESIGN.
AND THEN THAT BASICALLY CREATES MORE CUL-DE-SAC LOTS OR OTHER TYPES OF DIFFERENT DESIGN, WHICH ARE THE TYPICALLY THE MORE POPULAR LOTS ANYWAY.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE NEW ROAD DESIGNS.
AS FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, IT RESULTS IN REALLY A 56 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY, THE DESIGNS THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT VERSUS THE 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, IT DOES ALLOW FOR ON STREET PARKING BY THE DESIGN WITH NO FIRE LIENS.
ALSO SIDEWALKS WE COULD BE ALLOWED WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD OR BOTH.
UM, AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS ALSO PROPO PROPOSE DIFFERENT FIGURES IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO KIND OF EXPLAIN THESE CONCEPTS, TO GIVE DETAILS ON THESE CONCEPTS, UM, SO THAT, THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THIS IS WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE.
SO UP HERE IS JUST SOME EXAMPLES.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, HERE'S THE, UM, OVER HERE ON THE RIGHT IS OUR STANDARD, UH, CURB AND GUTTER, UM, SUBDIVISION STREET DESIGN.
IT'S ABOUT A 36 FOOT, UM, DESIGN PAVEMENT WITH SIDEWALKS, BOTH SIDES.
UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN PROMOTING, AND WHERE YOU HAVE THE CURB AND GUTTER SECTION FOR THIS, IT'S REALLY DETH THROATED TYPE OF, UM, INTERSECTIONS THAT REALLY PROMOTES, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE USING IN, YOU KNOW, IN TIGHT NEIGHBORHOODS.
IF YOU'RE PROMOTING, UM, ON STREET PARKING, IT REALLY DEFINES THE PARKING AREA.
IF YOU HAVE THE, THE THROATS HERE, PEOPLE DON'T PULL UP INTO THE, TO THE INTERSECTION OR THE ACTIVE PART OF THE INTERSECTION.
IT ALSO PROVIDES FOR SHORTER DISTANCES FOR PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS.
AND IT'S BECOME A PRETTY COMMON MODEL AND ESPECIALLY SOME MORE, UM, T AND D TYPE OF TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN OR, OR, UM, HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.
SO REALLY THAT'S OUR PRESENTATION.
UM, I ALSO HAVE AUSTIN HERE, IF YOU HAVE ANY PARTICULAR QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC DESIGN.
I GOT A QUE THE PART THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ON THE, UH, PUBLIC, UM, SUBDIVISION ROADS, IF IT'S LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET OH, FOR THE CURB AND GUTTER AND GUTTER, RIGHT? WELL, THAT'S NOT PER LOT, THAT'S AVERAGE FOR THE ENTIRE SUBDIVISION FOR THE AVERAGE LOT FRONTAGE IS A HUNDRED FEET RIGHT.
AND SO IT VARIES BECAUSE THE CUL-DE-SAC, YOU HAVE OF COURSE LESSER, YOU CAN HAVE A CORNER OF CUL-DE-SAC LOT THAT'S 75 FEET, RIGHT? AND THAT'D BE THE ONLY LOT IN THE WHOLE SUB DEVELOPMENT
AND, AND YOU LOOK AT, AT THOSE AND, AND ESPECIALLY MOST DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT REALLY WOULD FALL UNDER THIS TYPE OF THING IS R ONE OR LESS.
AND TYPICALLY YOU GET, OR THE RPD YOU GET MORE CONSISTENT LOT SIZE DESIGN AS WELL FOR THAT, THAT PATTERN.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM OUR FRONT? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
COMMENTS? MOTION? NO, WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'LL OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, ANY DEVELOPERS WANT? COMMENT? NO COMMENT.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD MR. MYERS.
NO, I WAS, I WAS GONNA MAKE THE MOTION.
UM, WE, WE DID RECEIVE ONE, I GUESS EMAIL, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL TIME.
WERE THERE ANY SPECIFICS MENTIONED BETWEEN, UH, EMAIL AND STAFF? UM, UH, AT THIS TIME? I, I BELIEVE THEY, THEY, THERE WAS, I KNEW THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS OF CONCERN THAT THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.
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UM, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS EXPLORING THE ABILITY, SINCE WE'RE TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL RIGHT AWAY, UM, ADJUSTING SETBACKS.UM, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THEY, YOU KNOW THIS TO BE FAIR TO THEM, UM, WE HAD MET WITH THEM TO SORT OF BROADLY TALK ABOUT THAT THEY HADN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REALLY ABSORB THE SPECIFICS OF THAT.
STAFF HAS AGREED THAT, THAT WE'D BE, WE WANNA MEET WITH, UM, MEMBERS OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY BETWEEN NOW AND THE BOARD HEARING TO OKAY.
IRON OUT THOSE ISSUES AND THEN PREPARE FOR ANY CHANGES WE MAY NEED NOW OR IN THE FUTURE.
THERE WERE NO SPECIFICS MENTIONED.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
I'M GOING GET THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZONING ORDINANCE ZONING ORDER IN THIS AMENDMENT ZERO A 2 0 2 3 0 0 0 0 3 RELATING TO EXCESS MANAGEMENT AND ROAD STANDARDS.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON DECEMBER 5TH, 2023 WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TONIGHT IS COUNTYWIDE ZOA 20 23 4 AMENDMENT TO SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, COUNTY CODE APPENDIX B TO
[6. Countywide - ZOA-2023-00004 Amendment to Subdivision Ordinance (County Code Appendix B) to update subdivision plat requirements and approval process]
UPDATE SUBDIVISION PLATT REQUIREMENTS AND APPROVAL PROCESS.GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD, I'M RE CASH ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I APPRECIATE YOU'LL ALLOWING ME TO USE MORE THAN MY ALLOTTED TIME TONIGHT.
UM, AS IT, THE TITLE SAYS, WE REALLY WANNA ADJUST SOME REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO PLATTS.
WE WANNA ENCOURAGE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE PLAT TYPES, UM, UPDATE THE NECESSARY NECESSARY INFORMATION FOR STAFF REVIEW.
WE ALSO REALLY, A GOOD PURPOSE OF THIS THAT REALLY SORT OF INCENTIVIZE US TO START WORKING ON SOME OF THESE CHANGES WAS PROMOTE PLAT ACCURACY AND IMPROVE OUR GIS SYSTEM.
UM, FOR THAT WE ALSO, PRIMARILY THIS IS THE UPDATE MATCH INDUSTRY AND REGIONAL STANDARDS.
UM, WE ALSO NEED TO UPDATE THE TENTATIVE PROCESS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT COMES BEFORE YOU FREQUENTLY TO MATCH STATE CODE.
UM, WE'LL TALK A LITTLE ABOUT AS WE GO FORWARD.
UM, I THINK AS WE'VE SEEN OFTEN IN DIFFERENT CASES LIKE THIS AND WHAT WE SAW ON SORT OF THE ROAD MANAGEMENT THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO UPDATE IS OUR ORDINANCES, UM, ARE SORT OF INCONSISTENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT TYPES THAT WE'RE SEEING, ESPECIALLY IN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
UM, SO PART OF THESE CHANGES AND THE RFP THAT WE HAVE OUT TO UPDATE SUBDIVISION ORDERS WILL HOPEFULLY HELP THAT, WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DO FIXES ALONG THE WAY.
UM, SO REALLY IT'S TO LOOK FOR CONSISTENT SUBMISSIONS AS I MENTIONED.
UM, UPDATE THE INFORMATION FROM PLAT TYPES.
A LOT OF STUFF THAT WE'RE GETTING ALREADY FROM THE INDUSTRY BECAUSE THEY DO DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER LOCALITIES AND OTHER STANDARDS.
SO THEY KNOWS TYPICALLY STANDARD INFORMATION AND WE'RE TRYING TO JUST INCUR, INCORPORATE THAT INTO ORDINANCES FOR REQUIREMENTS.
PART OF THAT ALSO IS TO SORT OF DO A CHECKLIST OF REQUIREMENTS FOR THE, FOR BOTH THE DESIGNER, THE SUBDIVIDED ENGINEER, UM, AND STAFF FOR INTAKE TO MAKE SURE APPLICATIONS ARE COMING IN WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED, WHICH WE WOULD HELP.
SPEED REVIEWS OR MULTIPLE REVIEWS IS OUR, IS OUR HOPE.
UM, AND PER ALSO IMPROVE OUR GI IS MAPPING INFORMATION.
UM, WE HAVE FOUND RECENT YEARS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, WELL WE WOULD SAY IS SORT OF OPEN.
CERTAIN PROPERTY BOUNDARIES WEREN'T CLOSED.
UM, THE GI GI IS SYSTEM IS VALUABLE FOR US AS STAFF FOR THE CITIZENS, FOR THE INDUSTRY.
AND GIS INFORMATION IS USED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS ACROSS THIS COUNTRY FOR A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS.
UM, COMMERCIALLY PRIVATE AND UM, FOR PUBLIC SERVICE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO REQUIRE FOUR ADDITIONAL GPS COORDINATE POINTS PER PLATT ON THE PLATT PAGE.
UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT IT'S A REQUIREMENT OF OUR, SOME OF OUR SURROUNDING LOCALITIES.
IT HAS BECOME PRETTY MUCH AN INDUSTRY STANDARD FOR THAT.
UM, WE HAVE HAD, WE HAVE PUT IN A PRECLUSION THAT IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO VACATION PATCHES TYPICALLY WHERE YOU'RE REMOVING A LOT LINE OR SOME OTHER, UM, SORT OF VACATION OF A ROAD OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND CERTAIN MINOR SUBDIVISIONS.
AND REALLY WE LOOKED AT ONES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE PAST SINCE REALLY, UH, 2013 TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE HAVE, IF THEY HAVE CONSISTENT DATA OR EVALUATED IT CAN BE VERIFIED BY OTHER SOURCES.
WE ALSO WANNA UPDATE PROVISIONS OF HOW WE GET MEASUREMENTS AND EASEMENTS AND BOUNDARIES SHOWN.
UM, ALSO SET UP FOR AN ELECTRIC SUBMITTAL, ELECTRONIC SUBMITTAL.
UM, COORDINATOR'S ACTUALLY HERE TODAY FOR GIS DEPARTMENT.
BUT PART OF THAT IS TO MAKE SURE WE GET DIFFERENT SOURCE FILES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT HELPS US TAKE THOSE RECORD
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PLATS, FINAL PLATS AND IN ENTER THOSE INTO OUR SYSTEM.SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S COMING IN FORMATS WE CAN UTILIZE AND ALSO SET US UP FOR FUTURE ELECTRONIC SUBMISSION.
AS SUCH, PLATTS AS, YOU KNOW, WE ADAPTED THE INTER GOV UM, SYSTEM.
SO WE WANNA TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME STANDARD THINGS THAT START COMING INTO OUR SYSTEM THAT CAN WORK AND HOPEFULLY SPEED PROCESSES.
SO WHEN IT GET TO THE TENTATIVE PLATT, AS I MENTIONED, WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF OUTTA LINE WITH THAT.
WHAT THE STATE CODE DOES PROVIDE IS YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE, UM, A FIVE YEAR APPROVAL FOR YOUR TENTATIVE PLAT.
WHAT OURS SAYS IS THAT YOU'VE BASICALLY GOT, UM, A SHORTER TIME PERIOD AND THEN WHAT ABOVE TWO YEARS BEFORE YOU HAVE TO MAKE A FINAL PLATT TYPE OF COMING FORWARD.
WHAT THE STATE CODE ALLOWS FOR IS TO SAY YOU HAVE FIVE YEARS AND WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR, WITHIN A YEAR OF THE TENTATIVE APPROVAL, YOU HAVE TO COME FORWARD WITH THE FINAL PLATT.
AND WHAT THEY SAY IS YOU HAVE TO DILIGENTLY PURSUE APPROVAL AS THAT MEANS YOU ACTIVELY GET IN HERE, WE GIVE YOU COMMENTS, YOU KEEP WORKING ON IT, KEEP TRYING TO BRING IT IN.
UM, AND THEN AFTER A THREE YEAR PERIOD, THE COMMISSION COULD ACTUALLY, UM, RESCIND THE TENTATIVE PLATT IF THERE HASN'T BEEN THAT TYPE OF APPROVAL.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THE, I MEAN THE FIVE YEARS WHICH THE STATE PROVIDES FOR AND LEAVE A TWO YEAR TIME PERIOD FOR THEM TO START THE PURSUIT OF APPROVAL OF THEIR, UM, FINAL PLATT, WHICH WOULD BE THE CONSISTENT SORT OF OUR PREVIOUS PRACTICE FOR PEOPLE.
WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT THIS UPDATE THAT THE STATE PROVIDED IS ONCE YOU RECORD AN UNDERLYING FINAL PLATT, SO PART OF THAT TENTATIVE THAT PORTION OF IT, IT'S AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED ANOTHER FIVE YEARS.
SO TYPICALLY IF YOU'RE, ESPECIALLY YOU THINK OF THE LARGER TYPE SUBDIVISIONS, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THEY WOULDN'T COME IN WITH ALL 500 LOTS AT THE FIRST PLAT AND EVERY TIME THEY COULD START PHASING THEIR DEVELOPMENT AND HELP, THAT HELPS ENCOURAGE IT.
THE OTHER THING IS JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE CONSISTENT IN THE ORDINANCE TO WHAT OUR PRACTICE IS AND WHICH IS GOOD PRACTICE REQUIRE THE TENTATIVE TO STILL BE A VALID MEANING.
IT'S STILL APPROVED STILL UNDER THE, THE TIME PERIODS AT TIME OF THE FINAL PLATT RECOMMENDATION.
AND THE SAME FOR OUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS, WHICH IS OUR CONSTRUCTION AND SITE PLANS.
UM, OUR, OUR PRACTICE DOES THAT, OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, UM, ALLUDES TO THAT.
THEY WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S JUST CODIFIED TO SAY THAT THOSE THINGS NEED TO, TO KEEP IN ORDER.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS WHERE YOUR ROAD CONSTRUCTION AND YOUR BONDS ARE ESTABLISHED AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO YOU WANNA MAKE SURE ALL OF THAT IS STILL IN PLACE, UM, WITHOUT THE EXPIRATIONS.
UM, THAT'S AN ORDINANCE WITH A LOT OF CROSSOUTS AND A LOT OF STRIKEOUTS.
UH, MAKES IT A LOT, SEEM A LOT MORE, UM, CHANGES THAN IT IS, BUT WE HOPE TO REALLY, UM, PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT SORT OF STARTS THE STAGE.
SO WE'RE UP UPDATING OUR REVIEW PROCESSES AND GIVING US THE INFORMATION AS STAFF AND COMMUNITY WE FEEL LIKE WE NEED.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? NOPE.
UH, ANDREW BROWNING 9 2 3 STONE CASTLE DRIVE.
UH, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT STAFF'S PUT INTO THESE CHANGES.
UH, IT, IT'S UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONTRADICTIONS BETWEEN THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE AND ZONING AND ORDINANCE AND KIND OF THE STANDARDS AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH PROJECTS IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
SO, UH, COMING UP WITH A SET OF, YOU KNOW, RULES THAT WE CAN ALL LEARN AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN LEARN TO PLAY THE GAME IF WE KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.
SO WE APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE HELPFUL MOVING FORWARD.
UH, I HAVEN'T READ ALL THE CHANGES.
I SAW SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT ARE PROPOSED.
UM, SOME OF MY STAFF HAS REVIEWED SOME OF THE CHANGES AND THERE ARE SOME, A COUPLE THINGS WE'D LIKE MAYBE TO SUGGEST TO MAKE A FEW CHANGES OR SOME WORDING OF HOW IT'S WRITTEN OR SOME AMBIGUITY IN A COUPLE SPOTS.
SO WE, WE WOULD UH, RELISH THE OPPORTUNITY MAYBE TO SIT DOWN AND, AND GO THROUGH A COUPLE, MAYBE MORE SO ON THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND ROAD DESIGN STANDARDS THAN THE PLATT REQUIREMENTS.
BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UH, I, WE'D APPRECIATE THAT.
MAYBE IF WE COULD HAVE SOME TIME TO, TO REVIEW A FEW OF THOSE THINGS.
'CAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON AND MY STAFF KIND OF BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION.
THEY KNEW I WAS GONNA BE HERE TONIGHT AND THEY'RE LIKE, YOU SHOULD SPEAK TO THIS.
SO, SO I, I, YOU KNOW, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF NEED FOR, UH, SOME, SOME CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCES TO MAKE 'EM MORE UNIFORM AND THEY, AND A LOT OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS, IS WHAT WE SEE IN OTHER LOCALITIES ANYWAY.
OR THE FIRE CODE OR IS THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO THERE'S JUST A COUPLE THINGS I THINK THAT WE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO MAYBE HAVE A LITTLE CONVERSATION ON THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I'M SURE THEY'D APPRECIATE IT.
IT'S BETTER TO DO IT NOW THAN WHEN IT BEFORE US.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY RESPONSE TO THAT.
UM, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE, WE PROBABLY HAVE TO BE WITH BOTH OF THESE AMENDMENTS AND STAFF.
JUST, WE WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY.
WE WANNA MAKE IT WORK FOR EVERYBODY.
ANYBODY ELSE? ANYBODY ELSE CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD? ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? APPLICANT? GOOD NEWS.
I'D HAVE TO PAY AN APPLICATION FEE.
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I WILL UH, MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO UH, I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL AS PRESENTED OF ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT Z ZERO AZOA 2 0 2 3 0 0 0 0 4 RELATING SUBDIVISION, SUBDIVISION PLATT REQUIREMENTS.SECOND OVER TO THE ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON DECEMBER 5TH, 2023 WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN THE OLD BUSINESS, NO OLD BUSINESS.
WE DO HAVE ONE ITEM OF OTHER BUSINESS, UH, RESOLUTION AMENDING THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S.
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2024 MEETING SCHEDULE TO REFLECT THAT[9. Other Business]
IT'S JANUARY, FEBRUARY, MARCH AND APRIL, 2024.REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETINGS WILL BE MOVED TO THE THIRD THURSDAY OF EACH MONTH BEGINNING AT SIX 30 AND WE DO NEED A MOTION AND A AND A SECOND FOR THAT.
I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AMENDING THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS.
2023 2024 MEETING SCHEDULE AS PRESENTED.
UH, ROLL CALL VOTE MR. MYERS AYE.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA VOTE IN.
I THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD JUST DEFERRED ACTION
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ON THEIR, ON, ON, ON THE SNOW BILL PLAN AT THEIR LAST MEETING.