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UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR ENDURING WHAT WE CONSIDER
[I. 2:30 PM - Call to Order]
THE MOST AWKWARD TWO MINUTES OF OUR MONTH EVERY MONTH.UM, IT IS MY HONOR, UM, AS CHAIRMAN TO CALL TOGETHER OUR TWO 30 DECEMBER 5TH BUSINESS MEETING FOR THE GOWIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
WE'LL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO.
UM, I'M GOING TO THE LORD IN PRAYER AND LEADING US WILL BE, UH, PASTOR CROWDER FROM DOVER BAPTIST CHURCH.
AND THEN MR. WATERS, OUR VICE CHAIR, WILL LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
[II. Invocation]
STAND AS YOU'RE ABLE.DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, AS WE GATHER IN THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, WE HUMBLY COME BEFORE YOU ACKNOWLEDGING YOUR SOVEREIGNTY AND WISDOM.
LORD, WE SEEK YOUR GUIDANCE AND GRACE AS WE DELIBERATE ON MATTERS THAT IMPACT OUR COMMUNITY AND ITS WELLBEING.
GRANT US, OH LORD, THE DISCERNMENT TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE JUST FAIR AND IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ALL THOSE THAT THIS BOARD SERVES.
LORD, MAY THE DISCUSSIONS BE FILLED WITH WISDOM, UNDERSTANDING, AND COMPASSION, RECOGNIZING THAT I THE DIVERSE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, BLESS EACH MEMBER OF THIS BOARD WITH THE STRENGTH TO CARRY OUT THEIR DUTIES WITH INTEGRITY.
A GENUINE DESIRE TO SERVE LORD, MAY THEY BE OPEN TO DIFFERING PERSPECTIVES AND ALWAYS STRIVING FOR CONSENSUS AND UNITY IN THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE.
LORD, WE PRAY FOR THE WELLBEING OF OUR COMMUNITY, ASKING FOR YOUR PROTECTION OVER EVERY RESIDENT AND YOUR PROVISION FOR THEIR NEEDS.
HELP US TO BE GOOD STEWARDS IN THE RESOURCES THAT ARE ENTRUSTED TO US.
USING THEM WISELY FOR THE BETTERMENT OF ALL.
INSTILL A SPIRIT OF COOPERATION AND COLLABORATION THAT WE MAY WORK TOGETHER HARMONIOUSLY FOR THE GREATER GOOD.
AND MAY OUR ACTIONS REFLECT JUSTICE, KINDNESS, HUMILITY.
AND MAY WE BE MINDFUL OF THOSE WHO ARE MOST VULNERABLE IN OUR COMMUNITY IN TIMES OF DISAGREEMENT, TO GRANT US THE PATIENCE TO LISTEN AND THE HUMILITY TO SEEK A COMMON GROUND.
LET US LOVE AND RESPECT THE FOUNDATION OF THE INTERACTIONS FOSTERING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE PREVAILS.
WE LIFT THIS MEETING UP TO YOU, OH LORD, AND WE ASK FOR YOUR DIVINE PRESENCE TO GUIDE US AND LEAD US.
WE ASK THESE THINGS IN YOUR SON'S HOLY AND PRECIOUS NAME, AMEN.
AMEN TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE
[III. Pledge of Allegiance]
REPUBLIC RICHARD STANCE, ONE NATION OF GOD INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.[IV. Presentations of Resolution of Recognition]
EMOTIONS THAT WE MOVE INTO THE NEXT PART.UH, WHERE WE WERE WILL BE RECOGNIZING THE HONORABLE SUSAN LASETTE, THE HONORABLE JONATHAN LUMPKINS AND THE HONORABLE KEN PETERSON FOR YEARS AND YEARS OF DEDICATED SERVICE.
SO MS. LASETTE, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND MEETING THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR DOWN AT THE PODIUM AND MS. BISK WITH IF YOU WOULD PLEASE READ THE RESOLUTION.
WHEREAS SUSAN LAS COLLETTE WAS ELECTED TO THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN 20 11, 20 15, AND AGAIN IN 2019 REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE.
WHEREAS DURING HER THREE TERMS, MS. LASETTE WAS ELECTED BY HER PEERS TO SERVE AS CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN 2015 AND AGAIN IN 2020.
WHEREAS MS. LASETTE HAS SERVED HONORABLY FOR 12 YEARS, PROVIDING HER CONSTITUENTS AND ALL THE RESIDENTS OF GLAND COUNTY WITH PUBLIC SERVICE MARKED BY INTEGRITY AND COMMITMENT.
WHEREAS DURING HER TENURE, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WAS ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY REFINANCE A LARGE PORTION OF THE 2002 TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT VRA BONDS IN NOVEMBER, 2012 IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS OVER THE NEXT 23 YEARS.
AND WHEREAS GLAND COUNTY RECEIVED ITS FIRST AAA CREDIT RATING FROM STANDARD EMPLOYERS RATING SERVICES IN FEBRUARY, 2015 AND NOVEMBER, 2018 RECEIVED AN INITIAL AAA RATING AND ITS FIRST EVER ATTEMPT FROM MOODY'S INVESTOR SERVICE.
AND IN OCTOBER 21 RECEIVED ITS FIRST AAA RATING FROM FITCH RATINGS INC.
MAKING IT THE SMALLEST COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES TO HAVE EARNED THE HIGHEST CREDIT RATING FROM ALL THREE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES.
[1. Presentation of Resolution Recognizing The Honorable Susan Lascolette]
AS GUGLIN COUNTY WAS AWARDED THE TAXPAYER FRIENDLY COMMUNITY AWARD OF 2017 AND WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE MOST TAXPAYER FRIENDLY IN THE NATION BY THE AMERICAN CITY COUNTY EXCHANGE[00:05:01]
FOR OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE ON TAXES SPENDING AND TRANSPARENCY.AND WHEREAS MS. LASS COLLETTE APPROVED HER FIRST COUNTY BUDGET AS SUPERVISOR IN APRIL, 2012 FOR 67.6 MILLION, AND IN APRIL, 2023 APPROVED HER LAST COUNTY BUDGET OF 1 41 0.5 MILLION, ALL WHILE KEEPING GOOCHLAND COUNTY AT A LOW 53 CENT REAL ESTATE TAX RATE.
AND WHEREAS UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF MS. LASETTE, THE COUNTY ACQUIRED AND BUILT ITS FIRST COUNTY OWNED FIRE STATION COMPANY SIX, WHICH OPENED IN THE SPRING OF 2017, REPLACING THE OLD COMPANY SIX FIRE STATION.
AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE SUPPORTED THE ISSUANCE OF 96 MILLION IN GENERAL OBLIGATION PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT BONDS AS WAS APPROVED BY THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE COUNTY AT THE NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021 ELECTION FOR THE FINANCING OF SCHOOL PROJECTS, COURTS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS.
AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GLAND COUNTY ESTABLISHING ITS OFFICIAL BOUNDARY WITH LOUISA COUNTY THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF A BOUNDARY LINE AGREEMENT, WHICH RESOLVED A DECADES OLD ISSUE REGARDING THE SHARED BORDER AND PROVIDED HUNDREDS OF GLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN THE COUNTY FOR LOCAL ELECTIONS.
AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE APPROVED ESTABLISHMENT OF THE GLAND HIGH SPEED INTERNET COMMITTEE, AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE AND GLAND COUNTY RENEWED ITS COMMITMENT AND INVESTMENT IN BROADBAND INTERNET SERVICE ACROSS THE COUNTY BY IMPLEMENTING THE 10 STEPS TO BROADBAND INTERNET INITIATIVES, A NEW ENGAGEMENT BY THE COUNTY TO ADDRESS BROADBAND NEEDS AND THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH FIREFLY BROADBAND ON THE REGIONAL INTERNET SERVICE EXPANSION PROJECT AND ALSO WITH PORT 80 INTERNET SERVICES.
AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE AND HER PEER AND HER PEERS LED THE COUNTY THROUGH THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC TO INCLUDE PROVIDING $156,000 OF CARE ACT FUNDS TO BUSINESS THROUGH GLAND'S BACK TO BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM.
AND IN 2020 CREATED THE GLAND BUSINESS CENTER TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY.
AND WHEREAS MS. LASKO AT APPROVED ADOPTION OF A 2019 TO 2024 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN AND A 2023 TO 2028 STORE TOURISM STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND WHEREAS MS. LACK, MS. LASETTE AND HER COLLEAGUES THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE SEARCH PROCESS HIRED VICTOR VIC CARPENTER AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN JUNE OF 2022.
AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE SUPPORTED NUMEROUS FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS THE CENTRAL HIGH CULTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL COMPLEX, INCLUDING THE AG AGRICULTURAL CENTER HEAD AND ROCK PARK SPORTS COMPLEX AND SPACE STUDY RENOVATION IMPLEMENTATION.
AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE APPROVED NUMEROUS STUDIES, ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, RESOLUTIONS, PLANS AND POLICIES THROUGHOUT HER TENURE TO INCLUDE A 25 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN 2040 MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, RURAL LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, ROAD SERVICE, DISTRICT POLICY, PARKS AND RECREATION, MASTER PLAN SALARY, BENCHMARK STUDY, ZONING, ORDINANCE, REWRITE AND ADOPTION OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE SMALL AREA PLAN TO NAME JUST A FEW.
AND WHEREAS MS. LACK SKELET WORK WITH THE GLAND SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO FUND AND IMPLEMENT THE COUNTY'S PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION PROJECT AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF GLAND'S, NEW EMERGENCY OPERATIONS AND COMMUNITY COMMUNICATION CENTER AND COURTHOUSE SECURITY BUILDING.
AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE SUPPORTED ADVANCING THE REVITALIZATION OF THE OLD GLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL INTO THE CENTRAL HIGH CULTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL CENTER, WHICH WAS RECOGNIZED BY VIRGINIA COMMONWEALTH UNIVERSITY'S WILDER SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT WITH AN EXCELLENCE IN VIRGINIA GOVERNMENT AWARD.
AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE AND HER COLLEAGUES AUTHORIZED CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ANIMAL SHELTER IN JULY OF 2017, PARTNERING WITH GLAND PET LOVERS TO CREATE A MUCH NEEDED NEW FACILITY.
AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE HAS CONSISTENTLY SHOWN HER COMMITMENT TO ENHANCING PUBLIC SAFETY IN GLAND COUNTY BY ACTIVELY SUPPORTING THE GLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, HER EFFORTS HAVE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON BOLSTERING INITIATIVES SUCH AS AUGMENTING SALARIES, EXPANDING STAFFING AND PROCURING NECESSARY EQUIPMENT.
THESE ACTIONS REFLECT HER DEDICATION
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TO FORTIFYING THE RESOURCES AND CAPABILITIES OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEREBY CONTRIBUTING SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE ONGOING SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE COUNTY AND ITS CITIZENS.AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE AND HER COLLEAGUES OFFERED UNWAVERING SUPPORT FOR FIRE RESCUE MAKING SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN PUBLIC SAFETY STAFFING, INCLUDING ALL COUNTY FIRE STATIONS BEING STAFFED 24 7 COMPETITIVE SALARIES FOR CAREER EMPLOYEES AND ENHANCED INCENTIVES FOR VOLUNTEER MEMBERS, MULTIPLE STATION RENOVATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS, FIRE APPARATUS AND EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, PROPERTY ACQUISITION FOR TWO NEW FIRE RESCUE SITES IN WEST CREEK AND SANDY HOOK AND ADOPTED MULTIPLE EMERGENCY OPERATION PLANS AND THE FIRST CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS PLAN.
AND WE AS MS. LA SKELET REGULARLY ENGAGED WITH CITIZENS INCLUDING HOLDING TOWN HALL MEETINGS FOR DISTRICT ONE AND 200 PLUS BOARD MEETINGS AND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS.
AND WHEREAS MS. LASETTE HAS SPENT HER TIME AND LENT HER TALENTS TO SEVERAL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, INCLUDING THE RICHMOND REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION AND PLAN RVA REGIONAL COMMISSION.
AND WHEREAS MS. LAS LET'S INSIGHT LEADERSHIP TIRELESS COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND PRESENCE ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE GREATLY MISSED.
AND THE POSITIVE IMPACT SHE MADE IN SO MANY WAYS UPON SO MANY PEOPLE WILL LONG BE REMEMBERED AND FELT BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE RESIDENTS OF GLAND COUNTY.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED ON THIS FIFTH DAY OF DECEMBER THAT THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUBLICLY RECOGNIZES THE HONORABLE SUSAN LASETTE AND EXTENDS SINCE SARAH'S DEPRECIATION FOR 12 YEARS OF EXEMPLARY PUBLIC SERVICE AND BEST WISHES ON HER FUTURE ENDEAVORS BOARD.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING THE HONORABLE SUSAN LASETTE AS PRESENTED.
OPPOSED, CONGRATULATIONS AND THANK YOU.
NOW WE'LL RECOGNIZE MR. LUMPKINS, WHEREAS MR. JOHN J LUMPKINS
[2. Presentation of Resolution Recognizing The Honorable John Lumpkins, Jr.]
WAS APPOINTED INTERIM BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN APRIL, 2018 AND THEN WAS ELECTED TO SERVE IN 2019, REPRESENTED DISTRICT THREE.AND WHEREAS MR. LUMPKINS HAS SERVED HONORABLY AS SCHOOL BOARD MEMBER REP REPRESENTING DISTRICT THREE FROM JANUARY 12TH TO MAY, 2018, PROVIDING HIS CONSTITUENTS AND ALL THE RESIDENTS OF UCHIN COUNTY WITH PUBLIC SERVICE MARKED BY INTEGRITY AND COMMITMENT.
AND WHEREAS MR. LUMPKINS WAS ELECTED BY HIS PEERS TO SERVE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN 2021.
AND WHEREAS DURING MR. LUMPKIN'S TENURE GLAND COUNTY RECEIVED ITS FIRST AAA RATING FROM MOODY'S INVESTORS SERVICE IN TWO NOVEMBER OF 2018.
AND IN OCTOBER 21 RECEIVED ITS INITIAL AA FROM FINCH RATINGS MAKING IT THE SMALLEST COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES WHO HAVE EARNED THE HIGHEST RATING FROM ALL THREE CREDIT RATINGS.
AND WHEREAS MR. LUMPKIN APPROVED HIS FIRST COUNTY BUDGET AS SUPERVISOR IN APRIL, 2019 FOR $87.5 MILLION IN APRIL 23, HE APPROVED HIS LATEST COUNTY BUDGET OF 141.5 MILLION ALL WHILE KEEPING GLIN AT A LOW 53%, 53% REAL ESTATE TAX RATE.
AND WHERE MR. LUMPKIN SUPPORTED THE ISSUANCE OF 96 MILLION IN DOLLARS IN GENERAL OBLIGATION PUBLIC BOND IMPROVEMENTS AND WAS APPROVED BY THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE COUNTY AT THE NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021 ELECTION FOR THE FINANCING OF SCHOOL PROJECTS, COURTS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS.
AND WHEREAS MR. LUMPKINS WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GLAND COUNTY ESTABLISHING ITS OFFICIAL BOUNDARY WITH LOUISA COUNTY THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF THE BOUNDARY LINE AGREEMENT, WHICH RESOLVED DECADES OLD ISSUE REGARDING THE SHARED BORDER AND PROVIDED HUNDREDS OF GLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN THE COUNTY FOR WHICH THE LOCAL ELECTIONS RESIDED.
AND WHEREAS MR. LUMPKINS AND UCHIN COUNTY RENEWED ITS COMMITMENT AND INVESTMENT IN BROADBAND INTERNET SERVICE ACROSS THE COUNTY BY IM LENDING A 10 STEP TO BROADBAND INTERNET INITIATIVE, A NEW ENGAGEMENT BY THE COUNTY TO ADDRESS BROADBAND NEEDS AND THROUGH PARTNERSHIP WITH FIREFI FIBER BROADBAND AND REGIONAL INTERNET SERVICE EXPANSION PROJECT AND ALSO WITH PORT 80 INTERNET SERVICES.
AND WHEREAS MR. LUMPKINS AND HIS COLLEAGUES LED THE COUNTY THROUGH THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC TO INCLUDE PROVIDING 156,000 OF CARESS ACT FUNDS TO BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT UCHIN BACK TO BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM.
AND IN 2020 CREATED THE GLAND BUSINESS CENTER TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE INDUSTRY.
WHEREAS MR. LUMPKINS APPROVED ADOPTION OF THE NINE 2019 TO 24
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ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN AND THE 2023 TO 28 TOURISM STRATEGIC PLAN.AND WHEREAS MR. LUMPKINS AND HIS COLLEAGUES THROUGH THE EXTENSIVE SEARCH PROCESS HIRED VICTOR VIC CARPENTER AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN JUNE, 2022.
AND WHEREAS MR. LUMPKIN'S APPROVED NUMEROUS PARK AND FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS PHASE ONE OF SKATE PARK RENOVATION, NAPA FIELD REPLACEMENT AT CENTRAL HIGH COMPLEX BALL FIELD REHAB, TUCKER PARK, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, UCHIN SPORTS COMPLEX IN CENTRAL HIGH COMPLEX GYMNASIUM RENOVATIONS, RICH REYNOLDS RECREATION, AMITY RENOVATION, UCHIN COUNTY AGRICULTURAL FAIR, AND NIGHT AT TUCKER CONCERT SERIES AND WHERE IS MR. LUMPKINS HAS APPROVED NUMEROUS STUDIES, ORDINANCES, AMENDMENTS, RESOLUTIONS, PLANS AND POLICIES THROUGHOUT HIS TENURE TO INCLUDE A 25 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
24 20 40 MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, RURAL LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION, TRANSPORTATION PLAN, ROAD SERVICE, DISTRICT POLICY, PARKS AND REC MASTER PLAN, SALARY, BENCHMARK STUDY ZONING, ORDINANCE REWRITES, AND ADOPTION OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE PLAN AREA, JUST TO NAME A FEW WHERE IS MR. LUMPKINS HAS CONSISTENTLY SHOWN HIS COMMITMENT TO ENHANCING PUBLIC SAFETY IN UCHIN COUNTY BY ACTIVELY SUPPORTING THE UCHIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
HIS EFFORTS HAVE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON BOTH THREE INITIATIVES SUCH AS AUGMENTING, SALARIES, EXPANDING STAFFING, AND PROCURING NECESSARY EQUIPMENT.
THESE ACTIONS REFLECT HIS DEDICATION TO FORTIFYING THE RE RESOURCES AND CAPABILITIES OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEREBY CONTRIBUTING SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE ONGOING SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE COUNTY AND ITS CITIZENS.
AND WHEREAS MR. LUMPKINS AND HIS COLLEAGUES OFFERED UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF OUR FIRE AND RESCUE, MAKING SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN PUBLIC SAFETY STAFFING, INCLUDING ALL COUNTY STATIONS BEING STAFFED 24 HOURS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, COMPETITIVE SALARIES FOR CAREER EMPLOYEES, ENHANCED INCENTIVES FOR MASTER FOR VOLUNTEER MEMBERS, MULTIPLE STATION RENOVATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS, FIRE APPARATUS AND EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, PROPERTY ACQUISITION FOR THE TWO FIRE RESCUE STATIONS AT WEST CREEK.
AND SANDY HOOK ADOPTED MULTIPLE EMERGENCY OPERATION PLANS IN THE FIRST CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS PLAN.
AND WHERE MR. LUMPKINS HAS SPENT TIME AND LED HIS TALENTS TO SERVE AS ON THE RICHMOND REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.
AND WHEREAS MR. LUMPKINS REGULARLY ENGAGED WITH CITIZENS INCLUDING HOLDING TOWN HALL MEETINGS FOR DISTRICT THREE AND OVER 130 BOARD MEETINGS AND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS, WHEREAS MR. LUMPKIN'S INSIGHT LEADERSHIP TIRELESS COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND PRESENCE ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE GREATLY MISSED.
HIS CARING NATURE AND POSITIVE IMPACT HE HAS MADE IN SO MANY WAYS UPON THE MANY PEOPLE WILL LONG BE REMEMBERED AND FELT BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE RESIDENTS OF GLAND COUNTY.
NOW THEREFORE BE RESOLVED ON THIS FIFTH DAY OF DECEMBER THAT THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUBLICLY RECOGNIZED THE HONORABLE JOHN LUMPKINS JR.
AND EXTENDS SOME SERIOUS APPRECIATION FOR HIS FIVE YEARS OF EXEMPLARY PUBLIC SERVICE AND OFFERS HIM THE BEST WISHES IN HIS NEW ROLE.
AS COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY OF GLAND COUNTY BOARD, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING THE HONORABLE JOHN J LUMPKINS.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SEAT ING? AYE.
CONGRATULATIONS MR. LUMPKINS OF THE HOUR
[3. Presentation of Resolution Recognizing The Honorable Ken Peterson]
ARE OVER OR IF IT'S THE, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, WHEREAS KEN PETERSON WAS ELECTED TO THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN 2011 2015 AND AGAIN IN 2019 REPRESENTING DISTRICT FIVE.AND WHEREAS DURING HIS THREE TERMS, MR. PETERSON WAS ELECTED BY HIS PEERS TO SERVE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN 2013 AND AGAIN IN 2018.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON HAS SERVED HONORABLY FOR 12 YEARS, PROVIDING HIS CONSTITUENTS AND ALL THE RESIDENTS OF GLAND COUNTY WITH PUBLIC SERVICE MARKED BY INTEGRITY AND COMMITMENT.
AND WHEREAS HIS, DURING HIS TENURE, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WERE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY REFINANCE A LARGE PORTION OF THE 2002 TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT VRA BONDS IN NOVEMBER, 2012 IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS OVER THE NEXT 23 YEARS.
AND WHEREAS UCHIN COUNTY RECEIVED ITS FIRST AAA CREDIT RATING FROM S AND P RATING SERVICES IN FEBRUARY, 2015, IN NOVEMBER, 2018 RECEIVED AN INITIAL AAA RATING IN ITS FIRST EVER ATTEMPT FROM MOODY'S INVESTOR SERVICES.
AND IN OCTOBER, 2021 RECEIVED ITS FIRST AAA RATING FROM FITCH RATINGS INC.
MAKING IT THE SMALLEST COUNTY IN THE UNITED STATES TO HAVE EARNED THE HIGHEST RATING FROM ALL THREE CREDIT RATING AGENCIES.
AND WHEREAS UCHIN COUNTY WAS AWARDED THE TAXPAYER FRIENDLY COMMUNITY AWARD OF 2017 AND WAS RECOGNIZED AS THE MOST TAXPAYER FRIENDLY IN THE NATION BY THE AMERICAN CITY COUNTY EXCHANGE
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FOR OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE ON TAXES SPENDING AND TRANSPARENCY.AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON APPROVED HIS FIRST COUNTY BUDGET AS SUPERVISOR IN APRIL, 2012 OF 67.6 MILLION, AND IN APRIL, 2023 APPROVED HIS LAST COUNTY BUDGET OF 141.5 MILLION, ALL WHILE KEEPING GLAND COUNTY AT A LOW 53 CENTS REAL ESTATE TAX RATE.
AND WHEREAS UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF MR. PETERSON, THE COUNTY ACQUIRED AND BUILT ITS FIRST COUNTY OWNED FIRE STATION COMPANY SIX, WHICH OPENED IN THE SPRING OF 2017, REPLACING THE OLD COMPANY SIX FIRE STATION.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON SUPPORTED THE ISSUANCE OF 96 MILLION IN GENERAL OBLIGATION PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT BONDS, AS WAS AS WAS APPROVED BY THE QUALIFIED VOTERS OF THE COUNTY AT THE NOVEMBER 2ND, 2021 ELECTION FOR THE FINANCING OF SCHOOL PROJECTS, COURTS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND PUBLIC SAFETY PROJECTS.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN GLAND COUNTY ESTABLISHING ITS OFFICIAL BOUNDARY WITH LOUISA COUNTY THROUGH THE APPROVAL OF A BOUNDARY LINE AGREEMENT, WHICH RESOLVED A DECADES OLD ISSUE REGARDING THE SHARED BORDER AND PROVIDED HUNDREDS OF GLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE IN THE COUNTY FOR LOCAL ELECTIONS.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON APPROVED ESTABLISHMENT OF THE GLAND HIGH SPEED INTERNET COMMITTEE, AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON AND GLAND COUNTY RENEWED ITS COMMITMENT AND INVESTMENT IN BROADBAND INTERNET SERVICE ACROSS THE COUNTY BY IMPLEMENTING THE 10 STEPS TO BROADBAND INTERNET INITIATIVES, A NEW ENGAGEMENT BY THE COUNTY TO ADDRESS BROADBAND NEEDS AND THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH FIREFLY FIBER BROADBAND ON THE REGIONAL INTERNET SERVICE EXPANSION PROJECT AND ALSO WITH PORT 80 INTERNET SERVICES.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON AND HIS PEERS LED THE COUNTY THROUGH THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC TO INCLUDE PROVIDING $156,000 OF CARES ACT FUNDS TO BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT GLAND'S BACK TO BUSINESS GRANT PROGRAM.
AND IN 2020 CREATED THE GLAND BUSINESS CENTER TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON APPROVED ADOPTION OF A 2019 TO 2024 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN AND A 2023 TO 2028 TOURISM STRATEGIC PLAN.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON AND HIS COLLEAGUES THROUGH AN EX EXTENSIVE SEARCH PROCESS HIRED VICTOR VIC CARPENTER AS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR IN JUNE, 2022.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON WORKED WITH THE GLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO FUND AND IMPLEMENT THE COUNTY'S PUBLIC SAFETY COMMUNICATION PROJECT AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF GLAND'S NEW EMERGENCY OPERATIONS AND COMMUNICATION CENTER AND COURTHOUSE SECURITY BUILDING.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON HAS CONSISTENTLY SHOWN HIS COMMITMENT TO ENHANCING PUBLIC SAFETY IN GLAND COUNTY BY ACTIVELY SUPPORTING THE GLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, HIS EFFORTS HAVE PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON BOLSTERING INITIATIVES SUCH AS AUGMENTING SALARIES, EXPANDING STAFFING, AND PROCURING NECESSARY EQUIPMENT.
THESE ACTIONS REFLECT HIS DEDICATION TO FORTIFYING THE RESOURCES AND CAPABILITIES OF THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THEREBY CONTRIBUTING SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE ONGOING SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE COUNTY AND ITS CITIZENS.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON AND HIS COLLEAGUES OFFERED UNWAVERING SUPPORT FOR FIRE AND RESCUE, MAKING SIGNIFICANT INCREASES IN PUBLIC SAFETY STAFFING, INCLUDING ALL COUNTY FIRE STATIONS BEING STAFFED 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, COMPETITIVE SALARIES FOR CAREER EMPLOYEES AND ENHANCED INITIATIVES FOR VOLUNTEER MEMBERS, MULTIPLE STATION RENOVATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS, FIRE APPARATI AND EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, PROPERTY ACQUISITION FOR TWO NEW FIRE RESCUE STATIONS SITES IN WEST CREEK AND SANDY HOOK AND ADOPTED MULTIPLE EMERGENCY OPERATION PLANS AND THE FIRST CONTINUITY OF OPERATIONS PLAN.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON AND HIS COLLEAGUES AUTHORIZED CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ANIMAL SHELTER IN JULY, 2017, PARTNERING WITH GLAND PET LOVERS TO CREATE A MUCH NEEDED NEW FACILITY.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON APPROVED SEVERAL NEW PARK AND FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS TO INCLUDE LEAKS, MILL PARK, TUCKER PARK, CENTRAL HIGH CULTURAL AND EDUCATIONAL COMPLEX, INCLUDING THE AGRICULTURAL CENTER, MATTHEWS PARK, HIDDEN ROCK PARK AND SPORTS COMPLEX AND SPACE STUDY RENOVATION IMPLEMENTATION, NAPA FIELD REPLACEMENT, CENTRAL HIGH COMPLEX BALL FIELD REHAB, TUCKER PARK, PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, GOOCHLAND SPORTS COMPLEX AND CENTRAL HIGH COMPLEX GYMNASIUM RENOVATIONS, REYNOLDS RECREATION, AMENITY RENOVATION GLAND, COUNTY AGRICULTURAL FAIR, AND NIGHT AT TUCKER CONCERT SERIES.
KEN, YOU ONLY HAVE TO GLOW FOR ABOUT A MINUTE MORE
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON REGULARLY ENGAGED
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WITH CITIZENS INCLUDING HOLDING TOWN HALL MEETINGS FOR DISTRICT FIVE AND 200 PLUS BOARD MEETINGS AND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIODS.AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON DEMONSTRATED LEADERSHIP AND MANAGING THE COUNTY'S FINANCIAL RESOURCES THROUGH HIS SERVICE ON THE COUNTY'S AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE.
AND DURING HIS TENURE, GLAND COUNTY WAS RECOGNIZED WITH A CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT FOR EXCELLENCE IN FINANCIAL REPORTING FOR THE YEARS 20 13, 20 14, 20 15, 20 16, 20 17, 20 18, 20 19, 20 20, 20 21, AND 2022, AND WAS RECOGNIZED BY THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION FOR DISTINGUISHED BUDGET PREP PRE PRESENTATION FOR YEARS 20 14, 20 15, 20 17, 20 18, 20 19, 20 20, 20 21 AND 2022.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON APPROVED NUMEROUS STUDIES, ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS, RESOLUTIONS, PLANS AND POLICIES THROUGHOUT HIS TENURE TO INCLUDE A 25 YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN 2040, MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, RURAL LONG RANGE TRANSPORTATION PLAN, ROAD SERVICE, DISTRICT POLICY, PARKS AND RECREATION, MASTER PLAN, SALARY, BENCHMARK STUDY, ZONING, ORDINANCE, REWRITE AND ADOPTION OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE SMALL AREA PLAN TO NAME JUST A FEW.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON SPENT HIS TIME AND LENT HIS TALENTS TO NUMEROUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO INCLUDE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, AND THE RE RICHMOND REGIONAL PLANNING DISTRICT COMMISSION.
AND WHEREAS MR. PETERSON'S INSIGHT LEADERSHIP TIRELESS COMMITMENT TO OUR COMMUNITY AND PRESENCE ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE GREATLY MISSED.
HIS CARING NATURE AND THE POSITIVE IMPACT HE MADE IN SO MANY WAYS UPON SO MANY PEOPLE WILL LONG BE REMEMBERED AND FELT BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE RESIDENTS OF GLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED ON THIS FIFTH DAY OF DECEMBER THAT THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUBLICLY RECOGNIZES THE HONORABLE KEN PETERSON AND EXTENDS SINCEREST APPRECIATION FOR 12 YEARS OF EXEMPLARY PUBLIC SERVICE AND BEST WISHES ON HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, I MOVE, EXCUSE ME, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION.
MR. S THANK YOU AS YOU TAKE YOUR SEATS, UH, BACK ON THE DAYS FOR ONE LAST TIME, I, UH, WOULD LIKE TO INVITE SHERIFF CHRISTIE FORWARD TO SEE A FEW WORDS.
UM, I TELL YOU, I DO HAVE SOME MIXED EMOTIONS HERE, UH, WITHOUT A DOUBT.
UH, BUT I JUST WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU TO MAINLY SINGLE OUT THE THREE THAT ARE LEAVING THIS BOARD, UM, FROM A CITIZEN OF GRUN COUNTY.
AND AS THE SHERIFF, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE SINCE YOU TOOK OFFICE.
IT SHOWS, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY AND BEYOND, BELIEVE ME.
AND JUST AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE BACKGROUND HERE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
WE HAVE DEPUTIES, WE HAVE DISPATCHERS HERE, AND WE JUST WANTED TO COME JUST TO DO A QUICK PRESENTATION, UM, SHORT AND QUICK, JUST A SMALL TOKEN OF OUR APPRECIATION FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE, BECAUSE WE CANNOT DO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST FOUR YEARS AND EVEN BEFORE THEN, WITHOUT EACH ONE OF YOU AND YOUR COMPLETE SUPPORT, IT HAS BEEN AMAZING.
IT'S BEEN A GREAT RIDE SERVING WITH Y'ALL.
SO, UH, THESE AWARDS ARE GONNA BE PRESENTED TO, UM, AND I'LL JUST READ IT, UH, WITH OUR GREATEST APPRECIATION PRESENTED TO SUSAN LASETTE, JOHN LUMPKINS AND KEN PETERSON IN RECOGNITION OF YOUR STEADFAST COMMITMENT TO PUBLIC SAFETY OF BUTRIN COUNTY.
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NED CREE AND THE UCHIN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.AND JOHN, I KNOW YOU HAVE A NEW JOB.
SO SUSAN, WE'RE HIRING DEPUTIES
I'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND GIVE MY COMMENTS NOW.
AND THEN I'M GONNA ACTUALLY GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EACH OF OUR, OUR OUTGOING BOARD MEMBERS TO SAY SOMETHING.
FIRST OFF, I WOULD LIKE TO CONGRATULATE ALL OF THE CANDIDATES, UM, WHO PARTICIPATED THIS YEAR, UH, IN THE ELECTIONS.
UH, IT TAKES A LOT TO PUT YOURSELF OUT THERE AND RUN FOR OFFICE.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THOSE NEWLY ELECTED INDIVIDUALS IN ALL, UH, OFFICES.
AND, UM, JUST VERY MUCH LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
THE CITIZENS OF GLAND COUNTY HAVE SPOKEN LOUDLY AND, UM, IT'S OUR JOB NOW TO CARRY THROUGH ON THOSE COMMITMENTS THAT WE MADE AS WE WERE CAMPAIGNING.
I DO WANNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS BOARD AS THEY'RE TAKING THEIR SEATS.
YOU KNOW, I, I'VE, I'VE WORKED ON TEAMS MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I'VE NEVER BEEN A GREAT INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTOR.
I REALLY VALUE COLLABORATION AND THE ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH GREAT IDEAS COLLABORATIVELY.
UM, I COULD SAY THIS WAS ONE OF THE BEST TEAMS I HAVE EVER WORKED WITH MR. SHARP.
AND I CAME INTO AN IDYLLIC SITUATION.
WE CAME INTO A GREAT TEAM WITH AMAZING EXPERIENCE, AND THIS BOARD WELCOMED US WHOLEHEARTEDLY.
UM, DO ALSO WANNA RECOGNIZE MR. SHARP'S, UH, TENURE ON THIS BOARD AND CON AND, UH, MR. VADERS STEPPING UP TO FILL THOSE, THOSE LARGE SHOES AND, AND DO IT VERY ADMIRABLY AND, AND, AND CARRIED, UH, I THINK DON'S, UH, MISSION GOING FORWARD.
THANK YOU FOR THE SELFLESSNESS, UM, EVEN ELECTING CHARLIE AND I TO BE CHAIR, TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE NORMALLY WOULDN'T.
SO THAT, AS YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE LAST EIGHT TO 12 YEARS, HAVE PUT THIS COUNTY FIRST.
PUT EGOS ASIDE, WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER WELL, DISAGREED DIDN'T ALWAYS HAVE FIVE OH VOTES, BUT WE GOT THE JOB DONE FOR THE CITIZENS.
AND WHAT I REALLY APPRECIATE ABOUT THIS BOARD IS WE, WE NEVER DID THE EASY THING.
THERE WERE OFTENTIMES WHERE WE COULD HAVE DONE THE EASY THING.
IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT THING, BUT THIS BOARD THROUGH YOUR LEADERSHIP SHOWED US HOW TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
UM, AND I JUST, I'M GONNA MISS YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEW BOARD COMING ON AND THE NEXT CHAPTER OF GLAND COUNTY AND WHERE, WHERE WE'LL GO INTO THE FUTURE.
AND AT THAT, UH, MS. LASTLY, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, WE'LL START OFF WITH YOU.
SEE IF I CAN DO THIS WITHOUT, UM, CHOKING UP HERE.
SO, UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, FOR THIS POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
NEW TERM YOU JUST LEARNED THE OTHER DAY, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S VERY GOOD.
UM, AND I'LL KEEP MY COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES OR LESS AND HONOR OF OTHER CITIZENS THAT WE MAKE YOU DO THE SAME THING.
SO I JUST REMEMBER THAT NOVEMBER THE EIGHTH, 2011, WHEN OUR ENTIRE TEAM WON, WON, AND THE EXHILARATION OF THAT NIGHT AND HOW EXCITED WE WERE.
AND THEN IT DIDN'T TAKE VERY LONG TO GO, UH, OH, WE WON.
NOW WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? RIGHT? HOW ARE WE DO THIS? AND FORTUNATELY, WE HAD, UH, GREAT MENTORS.
WE HAD NED CREASEY, WE HAD BECKY DIXON, LISA BISK, WHO ALWAYS HAD OUR BACK AND ALWAYS WATCHED OUT FOR US AND ALL THE STAFF.
BUT WE HAD A, A BOARD THAT WAS LOOKING TO FILL THE MANDATE THAT THE CITIZENS HAD GIVEN US.
AND THERE WAS NO EGO INVOLVED AS, UM, NEIL, WHAT'S YOUR NAME? NEIL.
UH, AS NEIL SAID
UH, IT GAVE, THIS 12 YEARS HAS GIVEN ME A GREAT APPRECIATION FOR THE DIVERSITY AND THE BEAUTY OF THIS COUNTY AND THE DIVERSITY IN THE BEAUTY OF THE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY.
I'VE MADE A LOT OF GREAT FRIENDS.
UM, I'VE MET PEOPLE THAT I DIDN'T AGREE WITH, AND PROBABLY STILL DON'T TO THIS DAY, BUT I'VE LEARNED FROM YOU.
I'VE LEARNED FROM EVERY SINGLE PERSON.
UM, THE STAFF HAS BEEN WONDERFUL.
THEY'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO HELP US OUT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE REST OF THE BOARD AS WELL.
UM, YOU'VE BEEN COLLEAGUES, BEEN FRIENDS, UM, MENTORS TO ME, AND ESPECIALLY KEN.
KEN'S BEEN AROUND SINCE, SINCE THE, SINCE I STARTED, RIGHT? UH, SO ALMOST 12 YEARS.
IF HE CAN STILL MAINTAIN FOR THREE MORE WEEKS, WE WILL HAVE A GOOD 12 YEAR, 12 YEAR RUN HERE.
UM, IT'S BEEN THE, IT'S BEEN MY PERSONAL JOY TO SUPPORT THE, THE PRIORITIES OF THIS COUNTY, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND EDUCATION.
AND I THINK WE'VE SHOWN THAT WE'VE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND THE THOUSANDS OF DECISIONS AND HUNDREDS OF, UH, PROCESSES THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH TO SUPPORT WHAT THIS COMMUNITY SAYS THEY WANT.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE WORKED TOWARDS BEING THE KIND OF COMMUNITY THAT OUR CITIZENS WANT, WANT IT TO BE.
AND THAT'S BEEN A GREAT JOY TO ME.
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SO IT'S TIME FOR A NEW BOARD.IT'S TIME FOR A NEW GENERATION TO TAKE OVER, AND I TRULY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YOU.
UM, I PROMISE THERE'S NO, WHEREAS IS IN THIS, UM, AS, AS MY SERVICE ON THIS BOARD DRAWS TO A CLOSE, UM, IT'S PROBABLY THE RIGHT TIME TO PAUSE AND, AND THANK THOSE ALONG THAT, UH, HELPED US OUT ALONG THE WAY.
I WANNA THANK THE CITIZENS OF GOLAND COUNTY, FIRST OF ALL, FOR PUTTING THEIR TRUST AND FAITH IN ME, UH, THAT I WOULD TAKE THE JOB SERIOUSLY, GIVE IT A HUNDRED PERCENT, AND DO A GOOD JOB, AT LEAST THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
I ALSO WANNA THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR SUPPORT ALONG THE WAY AND COUNTY STAFF FOR EVERYTHING THEY'VE DONE TO MAKE US LOOK GOOD UP HERE.
PUT THEIR TRACE TRUST AND FAITH IN US AS WELL.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE DIDN'T CHANGE THE WHOLE WORLD, BUT I THINK WE DID MANAGE TO CHANGE OUR CORNER OF IT FOR THE BETTER.
12 YEARS AGO, THE CITIZENS OF GLAND DECIDED CHANGE WAS IN ORDER, AND THEY ASKED 10 CITIZENS WITH NO POLITICAL EXPERIENCE AND NO POLITICAL AMBITIONS TO STEP FORWARD AS CITIZEN LEGISLATORS TO SERVE ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCHOOL BOARD AND CHANGE THINGS FOR THE BETTER IN GLAND.
AND NOW HIS TURNS A PAGE THIS MONTH AFTER FULFILLING THEIR COMMITMENT AND ACCOMPLISHING THEIR MISSION.
ALL OF THE LAST REMAINING ORIGINAL MEMBERS OF BOTH BOARDS WILL EXERCISE SELF-IMPOSED TERM LIMITS, AND LEAVE OFFICE VOLUNTARILY AFTER LESS THAN 12 YEARS IN OFFICE.
SO BALANCED BUDGETS AND VOLUNTARY TERM LIMITS ARE POSSIBLE.
I SHARE THE OTHER SENTIMENTS AND WANNA REMEMBER THOSE THAT SERVED WITH US THAT, BUT THAT HAVE PASSED AWAY, PARTICULARLY SUPERVISORS, NED CREASEY, SUPERVISOR DON SHARP, AND COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BECKY DIXON.
THEY WERE SO INSTRUMENTAL IN TAKING THIS COUNTY FROM WHERE IT WAS TO WHERE IT IS AND WHERE IT COULD BE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO HONOR THEIR MEMORY.
IF I HAVE TO BE HONEST, THERE'S A FEW THINGS ABOUT THIS JOB I WILL NOT MISS.
UM, AND I WON'T MENTION THOSE.
UH, BUT THERE ARE A FEW THINGS I WILL MISS.
AND WHAT I'LL MISS MOST IS THE PEOPLE AND THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE'VE ESTABLISHED OVER THE YEARS.
'CAUSE WE'VE WORKED SOME VERY LONG DAYS DURING SOME VERY, VERY SHORT YEARS THAT SEEM TO JUST FLY BY.
LONG DAYS TURN INTO SHORT YEARS.
BUT DURING THAT JOURNEY, WE'VE MADE HISTORY IN SEVERAL RESPECTS.
AND I THINK WE'VE INSPIRED OTHERS BY DEMONSTRATING THE ART OF THE POSSIBLE.
IF WE CAN DO IT, THEN PERHAPS OTHERS CAN.
NOW, I WANNA WISH THE NEWLY ELECTED TEAM ALL THE BEST IN THE WORLD AS THEY TAKE GLAND TO THE NEXT LEVEL LEVELS THAT WE WERE NOT ABLE TO ACHIEVE DURING OUR TERM.
I'M SURE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO MAKE US ALL FEEL BLESSED TO CALL GLAND HOME.
GLAND TRULY IS A SPECIAL PLACE.
UH, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WANNA THANK THE FIRST LADY OF DISTRICT FIVE, MY LOVELY WIFE, JOAN, FOR GRACIOUSLY SHARING ME WITH THE COUNTY AND FOR HER UNWAVERING SUPPORT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I COME HOME FROM A REALLY TOUGH MEETING AND I'M FEELING PRETTY DOWN AND PRETTY LOW, SHE LIFTS ME BACK UP.
AND IF I COME HOME FROM A PARTICULARLY GOOD MEETING, FEELING PRETTY GOOD ABOUT MYSELF, SHE TAKES ME RIGHT ON BACK DOWN
AND I COULD NOT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT YOU.
THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS BEING THERE.
IT HAS BEEN A TRUE HONOR AND A DISTINCT PLEASURE TO SERVE YOU AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY.
GOOD LUCK TO THE NEW TEAM AND MAY GOD BLESS.
UH, I REALLY DON'T NEED TO REPEAT THE SENTIMENTS, UM, BUT I, I FEEL THE SAME WAY.
12, AND I HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE THE UCHIN REVOLUTION, 12 YEARS, BUT OF COURSE, I STARTED ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, BUT I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER IT LIKE YESTERDAY.
IT'S, IT'S BEEN A QUICK 12 YEARS WITH SOME LONG DAYS.
UM, AND OF COURSE, THANK YOU SUSAN AND KEN AND, AND MANNY ALVAREZ AND BOB MINNICK FOR BACK IN EARLY 2018 WHEN, WHEN NED CREESE UNFORTUNATELY PASSED FOR, FOR APPOINTING ME AND GIVING ME A CHANCE TO, TO JOIN YOU.
AND IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN QUITE A PRIVILEGE AND AN HONOR EVER SINCE THEN.
AND, AND I, I WISH THE BEST TO THE NEW SCHOOL BOARD.
UH, I, I LEFT THAT WITH FOND MEMORIES OF, OF JOINING YOU ALL.
WE SET THE EXAMPLE FOR LITERALLY FOR ALL THE COUNTIES AND CITIES IN, IN THE COMMONWEALTH, THE WAY WE, WE WORK TOGETHER WHEN I JOINED, YOU KNOW, ON THE SCHOOL BOARD.
AND THEN, AND THEN JOINING YOU ALL.
IT'S BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE ALONGSIDE ALL OF YOU.
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RESOLUTION.AND, AND THANK YOU, SHERIFF FOR THE RECOGNITION.
AND, AND I, I SEE THAT ALL THE TIME.
I, I HAD THE CHANCE TO MEET WITH JUDGE SANNER THIS MORNING.
HE WAS IN COURT AND, AND, UH, I HAD A CHANCE TO GO TALK TO HIM.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HE SITS IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, AND I HEAR THAT, UH, IN, WITH REGIONAL FOLKS, I HEAR THAT OFTEN THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THEY CAN COMPARE GLAND TO OTHER PLACES THEY KNOW ABOUT GLAND.
AND, AND HE SHARED THE SENTIMENT WITH ME THAT, THAT I HEAR FROM SO MANY PEOPLE THAT GLAND REALLY IS A SPECIAL PLACE.
AND I, I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO OBSERVE IT, UM, FROM, FROM THIS PERCH.
AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT REALLY IS.
UH, IT'S A, IT'S SUCH AN HONOR TO, TO BEEN HERE AND SERVING WITH YOU GUYS.
AND, AND I, LIKEWISE, I WISH THE BEST OF THE NEWLY ELECTED.
I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU FROM MY POSITION AS COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY.
UM, UH, GOOD THINGS ARE AHEAD AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN THE LAST 12 YEARS.
THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH FOR EVERYTHING.
UM, AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR HIS COMMENTS, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
[VI. County Administrator's Comments]
IF I DID NOT THROW IN, UH, MY THOUGHTS AS WELL, MY HEARTFELT THANKS, UH, TO ALL OF YOU, BUT CERTAINLY THE THREE BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE HONOR YOU BESTOWED UPON ME BY ALLOWING ME THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING AS YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, THROUGH THIS TIME.AND, UH, I WILL, UH, ALWAYS BE HERE WHEN YOU FEEL COMPELLED TO MAKE THAT PHONE CALL, BECAUSE SOMEONE REACHES OUT TO YOU STILL, I'LL STILL BE HERE TO TAKE THOSE CALLS AND TO, UH, GET IT TO THE HEART OF WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS THEY'VE LED YOU TO BEING CALLED, SO YOU CAN PASS IT OFF WITH GOOD, GOOD FAITH AND SLEEPING WELL THAT NIGHT.
UH, A FEW ITEMS FOR THE BOARD.
UM, I WISH TO, UH, KIND OF CLOSE CIRCLE.
AT OUR LAST MEETING, A CITIZEN REQUESTED A FOLLOW UP ON ISSUE OF TRAFFIC AND REED MARSH, THOSE RELATED TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW HOMES.
UM, THE QUESTION WHETHER STAFF AND THE BOARD HAD HAD THE CORRECT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF THEM.
AND THE ANSWER TO THAT IS, YES.
AMONG OTHER DATA STAFF CONSIDERED THE IMPACT OF NEW CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS STUDIES COMMISSIONED FOR THE PROJECT, UH, RESIDENTS OF REED MARSH WARRANT ATTENDANCE AT THAT MEETING.
AS WELL AS TO WHETHER THAT DECISION WOULD BE RECONSIDERED.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVED A PLAN WEIGHING ALL THE INFORMATION, DOING SO AT ITS AUGUST, 2021 MEETING.
IT WAS A PUBLICLY MADE DECISION.
IT WAS BROADCAST AND LIVESTREAM.
AND FOLLOWING THE MEETING, THE DECISION WAS COMMUNICATED TO PRINT ONLINE AND SOCIAL MEDIA AS IS OUR NORM.
OTHER ITEMS COMING UP, UH, WELL, ACTUALLY, WE HAD THIS PAST FRIDAY, THOSE OF YOU WHO WERE IN ATTENDANCE AT OUR CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S JUST AN AMAZING EXAMPLE OF WHO GLAND IS AND WA GLAND IS AS A COMMUNITY.
UH, IF YOU MISSED IT THIS YEAR, PLEASE COME NEXT YEAR.
WE HAD A STANDING ROOM, ONLY BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S STANDING, AND IT WAS AN AMAZING EVENT.
UM, COMING UP THIS WEEK, WE HAVE SANTA CALLING, UH, WE'VE GOT OVER 110 KIDS.
YOU'RE GONNA GET A PHONE CALL FROM SANTA.
UH, IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN THAT HAVE NOT HAD THAT DAY, IT'S AN AMAZING THING TO CALL AND TALK TO A CHILD AND, UH, BE SANTA CLAUS TO THEM.
YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHY WE'RE SPECIAL AND WHY WE'RE DIFFERENT HERE.
AND THEN FINALLY, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UH, OUR HOLIDAY SCHEDULE IS WE'LL BE CLOSING AT NOON ON FRIDAY, THE 22ND OF DECEMBER AND CHRISTMAS DAY ITSELF, BUT WE'LL BE REOPENED TO THE PUBLIC ON THE 26TH OF DECEMBER.
AND ALL GARBAGE CONVENIENCE CENTERS WILL ALSO BE OPEN ON DECEMBER 26TH, WHICH IS THE BUSIEST GARBAGE DAY OF THE YEAR, AS YOU COULD IMAGINE.
SO WE WILL BE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT'S MY REPORT.
AND HAVE YOU SEEN FROM OUR AGENDA, UH, WE'RE NOT LETTING YOU
[VII. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the Order of Presentation]
OFF LIGHTLY ON YOUR LAST MEETING.WE HAVE 11 PUBLIC HEARINGS AND A LOT OF ITEMS, BUT ARE THERE ANY REQUESTED POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS AND ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES IN THE ORDER OF PRESENTATION? MR. CHAIRMAN? MR. LUMPKINS? YEAH, I, I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD TO CONSIDER MOVING, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10 IN OUR PUBLIC HEARING IN THE EVENING SESSION.
ITEM 10 IS AN AMENDMENT TO A ZONING ORDINANCE AND AN AMENDMENT TO A, A SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, UH, REGARDING ACCESS MANAGEMENT.
IN PART, I ASK THAT, THAT BE MOVED TO THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR EVENING AGENDA FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARINGS, YEAH.
SO MOVING ITEM 10 UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS TO ONE ITEM.
IN THE, IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT AFTER, THANK YOU.
AFTER CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.
ANY OTHER CHANGES BEING REQUESTED? OKAY.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? YES, SECOND, SECOND.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
OPPOSED? OKAY, SO WE'VE GOT THAT CHANGED.
UM, AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN UP THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
THIS IS FOR FOLKS TO COME AND ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ISSUES
[VIII. Citizen Comment]
THAT ARE NOT ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE, GIVE US YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND IF YOU'D PLEASE TRY TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES AT THIS TIME.
I'LL OPEN THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
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I THINK IT'S, I'M ON RIGHT? AM AM I ON? MM-HMM.UM, LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD, MANNEQUIN, SABBATH, VIRGINIA.
I HAD TO END ON A BIG
THE SUSAN LASETTE AND KEN PETERSON, THE 12 YEARS HAVE ACTED AS A MENTOR TO MANY OF A CITIZEN TO HOW TO COME AND SPEAK TO YOU IN A WAY IN WHICH WE ARE NOT AT EACH OTHER'S THROATS.
I APPRECIATE THE NUMEROUS AMOUNT OF HOURS THAT HAVE BEEN SENT, GIVEN TO ME TO HELP ME WORK THROUGH HOW TO PROPERLY GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO THE CITIZENS.
UM, IT'S NOT EASY A JOB FOR YOU ALL, UH, TO, TO BE THROWN INTO A SITUATION WHERE CITIZENS ARE REALLY OVERWHELMINGLY PROTECTIVE OF WHERE THEY LIVE, UM, AND WHAT'S GOING ON IN THEIR COUNTY.
BUT YOU HAVE MANAGED TO TALK TO US IN A WAY THAT REASSURES US THAT YOU HAVE OUR BACKS.
AND THAT IS A RARE THING IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT THAT, UM, I HOPE, AND I HAVEN'T BOTHERED YOU TOO MUCH, AND I APOLOGIZE TO YOUR SPOUSES.
UH, WHEN I DO CALL, UM, SOMETIMES I AM LONG-WINDED,
AND I DON'T I, BUT THROUGH IT, ONCE, ONCE I DO TALK TO YOU, I USUALLY FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT I SAID I PROMISED TO DO DURING THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, CONVERSATIONS.
AND I APPRECIATE THE, UH, EMERGENCY MEDICAL DISPATCHERS, WHICH WAS, WAS MY BABY AS FAR AS I WAS CONCERNED.
IT TOOK AN AWFUL LONG TIME TO GET THERE.
BUT YOU ALL LISTENED TO ME AND YOU ALL, AS, AS I PARADED MANY OF MY, UH, NEIGHBORS IN FRONT OF YOU, MONTH AFTER MONTH, AFTER MONTH.
IF, IF ALL ANYTHING, I AM PERSISTENT AS, AS, AS, AS MR. HARDGROVE DELEGATE HARDGROVE USED TO SAY.
UM, I WAS THE MOST PERSISTENT PERSON HE EVER KNEW.
AND I THINK PERSISTENT MEANS PROBABLY PESTY.
UM, YOU, YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL LIFE.
I THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, UH, OVER THE YEARS.
AND WE'VE GOT A GREAT LINEUP TO, TO TAKE OVER.
IT WOULD NOT BE A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING WITHOUT AN AGRICULTURAL UPDATE, AND I DON'T WANT TO DISAPPOINT.
UM, I DO HAVE OTHER COMMENTS, BUT TIME MANAGEMENT IS SOMETHING I'M WORKING ON.
SO WITH THREE MINUTES OR LESS, I'M GOING TO ADDRESS, UH, AGRICULTURAL RIGHT NOW.
BUT I WILL HAVE COMMENTS AT SIX O'CLOCK 'CAUSE I DO SO APPRECIATE WHAT YOU FOLKS HAVE DONE THESE LAST YEARS.
ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY, UH, I HAVEN'T INTRODUCED MYSELF AND JONATHAN LAU 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
I'M CHAIRMAN OF THE MONAGAN SOIL WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND A FARM BUREAU DIRECTOR.
MY COMMENTS ON MY OWN, UH, JUST THIS MORNING, I CAME BACK FROM THE STATE CONSERVATION DIRECTORS CONFERENCE DOWN IN NORFOLK.
UH, WE HEARD FROM THE SECRETARY OF NATURAL RESOURCES AND THE SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE.
UH, THERE ARE THINGS, UH, UNDER DEVELOPMENT SO FAR AS THE STATE BUDGET'S CONCERNED THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON GLAND COUNTY SO FAR AS AGRICULTURE'S CONCERNED.
UH, ONE, THE STATE ASSOCIATION HAS ITS LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, AND IT IS REQUESTING THAT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY CONSIDER DEDICATED FUNDING FOR SOME OF THE AGRICULTURAL NATURAL RESOURCES EFFORTS.
RIGHT NOW, MUCH OF THE FUNDING IS DONE THROUGH BUDGET SURPLUSES, AND UNLIKE GLAND, UH, THE STATE DOES NOT ALWAYS HAVE BUDGET SURPLUSES.
SO THERE IS A REAL GIVE AND TAKE OR UNCERTAINTY AS TO HOW SOME OF THE BMPS ARE GOING TO BE, UH, FUNDED.
UH, THE COST SHARE, UH, BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES WAS FULLY FUNDED AT, UH, $485 MILLION IN THE LAST BIENNIUM.
GOVERNOR YOUNGIN IS WORKING ON HIS CURRENT BUDGET.
UH, THE COMMITMENT WE HEARD FROM BOTH SECRETARIATS WAS THAT, UH, THE GOVERNOR CONTINUES TO BE, UH, COMMITTED TO AGRICULTURE AS WELL AS CONSERVATION.
SO THERE IS AN EXPECTATION WE'LL SEE A CONTINUED COMMITMENT TO THE AGRICULTURAL AND CONSERVATION COMMUNITIES.
UH, THERE IS A REQUEST, UH, FROM THE ASSOCIATION FOR INCREASED OPERATIONAL FUNDING, AND THAT'S
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IMPORTANT TO GLAND AND PALATAN BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN GENEROUS IN SUPPORTING MONICA DISTRICT.UH, AND PART OF IT IS BECAUSE WE'RE SOMETHING OF AN UNFUNDED MANDATE.
UH, WE DO NOT RECEIVE THE ADEQUATE FUNDING THAT THE, UH, UH, OPERATIONS OF THE DISTRICT REQUIRES FROM THE STATE.
WE APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAVE STEPPED UP AND HELPED US WITH THAT.
UH, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT TURNS OUT.
UH, I ALSO WILL REPEAT THAT THERE IS A ONE-TIME FINANCIAL REQUEST FROM THE ASSOCIATION THAT WE, UH, ADDRESS THE DOUBLE HORNED WATER CHESTNUT, WHICH IS AN INVASIVE SPECIES THAT IS STARTING TO, UH, MAKE ITS PRESENCE KNOWN HERE.
THE COMMONWEALTH, UH, THE, UH, UH, LATIN NAME IS, UH, TRAP BI PINOSA, AND SO I'M GONNA CALL IT THE DOUBLE HORNED WATER CHESTNUT, UH, WHICH CREATES A BIG MAT ACROSS PONDS AND, UH, JUST REALLY DOES AFFECT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR ONE TIME SUPPORT FROM THE COMMONWEALTH FOR THAT.
UH, MONON DISTRICT IS ALSO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THE CAPITAL REGION LAND CONSERVANCY, IN MY UNDERSTANDING.
I DON'T GET THE TIMES DISPATCH, UH, BUT THERE WAS A LARGE ARTICLE ON PALATAN COUNTY AND WHAT IT'S DOING WITH ITS AGRICULTURAL FOREST, UH, UH, REGIONS.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT IS ALLOWING, I GUESS WE'LL SAY RURAL ENHANCEMENT TO CONTINUE.
UH, BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH CAPITAL REGION LAND CONSERVANCY IS WORKING WITH LANDOWNERS WHO WANNA PUT THEIR LAND INTO CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.
WE'VE DONE THREE SO FAR, ALL IN PALATAN, BUT WE ARE GETTING INQUIRIES FROM, UH, LANDOWNERS SAYING, HOW CAN WE PUT OUR LAND IN THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, WHICH WOULD IN PERPETUITY, UH, KEEP GUC RURAL? SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WILL, UH, COME BACK AT, UH, SIX O'CLOCK AND REALLY DO SHARE SOME HEARTFELT APPRECIATION WITH YOU FOLKS.
GOOD EVENING, UH, BOARD, UH, MS. MCGEE AND MSIC, UH, MANNY ALVAREZ, 29 60 WILLOW TRACE LANE.
I COULDN'T STAY AWAY TODAY BECAUSE I WANTED TO THANK YOU, UH, KEN, JOHN, AND SUSAN FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS.
I KNOW I'VE BEEN GONE FOR A FEW YEARS NOW, BUT, UM, I WAS HONORED TO WORK WITH YOU.
I THINK I AGREE THAT WE MADE A PERFECT TEAM, UH, THAT WHEN WE FIRST GOT ELECTED, IT WAS LIKE, KIND OF LIKE DRINKING FROM A FIRE HOSE.
UH, WE WERE ABLE, BECAUSE WE WERE ALL FIVE NEW, WE WERE ABLE TO MEET PRIOR TO BEING, UH, APPOINTED OR SWORN IN AND PLAN OUR, OUR NEXT YEAR OR SO.
UH, WE DIDN'T AGREE ON ALL THE IMMEDIATE PRIORITIES THAT THERE WAS ONE IMMEDIATE, IMMEDIATE PRIORITY, WHICH WAS FIXING THE PROBLEM WITH TAHOE CREEK.
AND IN THE MEANTIME, IT DIDN'T MEAN WE DIDN'T WORK ON THE OTHERS.
WE CREATED THE, AN AGRICULTURAL COMMITTEE.
WE CREATED THE BROADBAND COMMITTEE.
AND, UH, IT'S JUST, IT WAS JUST THE, UH, WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT DOING WHAT YOU LIKE AND IT'S NOT WORK.
WE HAD A COUPLE OF HEARINGS THAT WERE VERY DIFFICULT.
WE WERE HERE UNTIL TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, ONE, ONE, UH, TUESDAY NIGHT.
AND, AND I THINK ONE OF THE GREATEST THINGS WAS I THINK GETTING THE AAA RATINGS, SETTING A BAR FOR THE FUTURE, IF THOSE RATINGS START BECOMING SUSPECT THAT PEOPLE WILL KNOW TODAY.
AND EVEN TONIGHT, YOU'RE NOT STOPPING BECAUSE THE CHANGES TO THE FINANCIAL POLICY THAT ARE PROPOSED THAT'LL BE CO BE COMING UP, ARE TERRIFIC.
AND I ALSO THANK YOU FOR ONE OF MY OTHER GOALS WAS TO GET A FIRE STATION IN DISTRICT TWO.
AND TONIGHT YOU GUYS ARE APPROVING MONEY TO CONTINUE WHAT'S THERE, WHICH HAS BEEN TERRIFIC HAVING THEM SO CLOSE TO US IN, UH, SANDY HOOK.
UH, IF YOU NEED, UH, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO ON YOUR FREE TIME, LET ME KNOW.
I'M THE, UH, CHAIR OF THE GLAND TWO 50 CELEBRATION COMMISSION, AND I COULD USE A LOT OF HELP
DON'T BE YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE BORED DURING YOUR, UH, OFF TIME.
ANYONE ELSE SEEING NO, I'LL ENCLOSED THE CITIZEN COMMENT.
BOARD, OUR NEXT, UH, ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS TO APPROVAL OF OUR MEETING MINUTES,
[IX. Approval of Action Minutes]
THE REGULAR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 1ST, 20 OR 2023, 2:00 PM MEETING.UM, HOPEFULLY YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM.
UM, ENTERTAIN AMONGST CHAIRMAN.
I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES AS PRESENTED IN THE PACKET.
ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
WE'LL MOVE INTO OUR REPORTS SECTION OF THE AFTERNOON.
UH, UP FIRST OUR PARTNERS AT VDOT.
I THOUGHT I SAW MR.
[X. Reports]
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GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CARPENTER.[1. VDOT - November 2023]
CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME'S MARK HARLOW.I'LL BE GIVING THE REPORT TODAY FOR VDOT.
UM, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS GOT THE CHANCE TO REVIEW OUR REPORT THIS PAST MONTH, UM, WE COMPLETED 225 WORK ORDERS.
WE HAD EIGHT EMERGENCY CALL OUTS.
UH, WE FINISHED OUR FIRST CYCLE OF PRIMARY MO.
I MEAN, OUR FINAL, NOT OUR FIRST, OUR FINAL CYCLE.
UM, AND WE CONDUCTED A, UH, OBSERVATION AT MANNEQUIN ROAD AND TWO 50 TODAY, THIS MORNING, UH, EARLY, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE LIGHT STAYING GREEN ON TWO 50 AND NOT LETTING PEOPLE OUT ON MANNEQUIN ROAD.
UH, THERE WERE OBSERVATIONS OF ALWAYS THEY FOCUSED ON, THEY FOCUSED ON THE SOUTHBOUND COMING OFF OF MANNEQUIN WHERE THE CONCERN WAS AND NOTHING WAS SEEN, UH, TO BE WORKING, UH, UNPROPERLY.
SO EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE WORKING.
THEY SAID THEY WOULD PERIODICALLY CHECK MAYBE LATER IN THE AFTERNOON TO SEE IF IT WAS WORKING.
IF WE DO FIND SOMETHING, WE'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW.
THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE OTHER THAN THANKS FOR WORKING WITH YOU GUYS THAT ARE LEAVING AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS COMING ABOARD.
UH, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THE SAME WORKING RELATIONSHIP WE DID WITH YOU FELLAS AND MISS, UH, LAS COLLETTE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LER AT THIS TIME? DO YOU HAVE, UM, JUST FOR, SO THE PUBLIC, DO YOU HAVE AN, UM, ANY UPDATE ON THE ROUNDABOUT RIGHT HERE AND THE, IT'S ACTUAL OFFICIAL COMPLETION? I KNOW THAT THEY WERE WAITING ON SOME THINGS IN THE BACK OF THE REPORT HERE.
UM, THEY'RE WAITING ON THE, THE LIGHTING, UH, SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE FUSE.
THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT, AND ONCE THAT'S DONE, I THINK THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD.
DO YOU KNOW IF ALL THE IRRIGATION ISSUES AND WITH THE FLOODING OF THE, THE SERVICE STATION THERE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED? I, I KNOW THAT THEY DID DO SOME UPGRADES THROUGH THERE.
NOW WHETHER THEY'RE ALL COMPLETE OR NOT, I, I DO NOT KNOW, BUT I WILL, I WILL FIND OUT AND LET YOU GUYS KNOW.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA, WE HAVE DEPUTY HR DIRECTOR MICHELLE SUTTON.
[2. Introduction of New County Staff]
GOOD AFTERNOON.UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER? MY NAME'S MICHELLE SUTTON.
I'M THE, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES MANAGER FOR GLAND COUNTY.
AND ON BEHALF OF COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE FOUR NEW HIRES FOR THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER FOR THE FOLLOWING DEPARTMENTS.
IF THE NEW HIRES ARE HERE, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU STAND WHEN I READ YOUR NAME.
UM, THE FOLLOWING DEPARTMENTS, UH, WE HIRE FOUR.
WERE, UH, CIRCUIT COURT CLERK'S, OFFICE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S, OFFICE, FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND FIRE AND RESCUE.
BEGAN WORKING FOR GLAND COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT CLERK'S OFFICE ON NOVEMBER 1ST AS A DEPUTY CLERK ONE, MS. ROBERTSON.
UH, MOST RECENTLY WORKED FOR THE OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL OF VIRGINIA, WHERE SHE PROVIDED ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT FOR OVER FOUR YEARS.
UM, ON NOVEMBER 1ST, MR. ROBINSON JOINED THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR'S OFFICE AS A REAL ESTATE APPRAISER FOR, HE COMES TO GLAND COUNTY FROM HANOVER COUNTY, WHERE HE WORKED AS A SENIOR APPRAISER FOR OVER SIX YEARS.
MR. ROBINSON BRINGS A WEALTH OF APPRAISAL VALUATION AND ASSESSMENT KNOWLEDGE TO GLAND COUNTY ON NOVEMBER 16TH.
JANET FONTANO, SHE WAS HERE EARLIER.
I THINK SHE MAY HAVE STEPPED OUT NOVEMBER 16TH.
JANET FONTANO JOINED THE GLAND FINANCE DEPARTMENT AS AN ACCOUNTING ANALYST.
MS. FONTANO WORKED FOR THE GLAND TREASURER'S OFFICE FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS AS A DEPUTY TREASURER.
MS. FONTANO PERFORMED FINANCIAL ACTIVITIES RELATED TO MONIES FLOWING INTO GLAND COUNTY.
UH, LASTLY, UH, SAVA COFF JOINED THE FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT, UH, AS A FIREFIGHTER EMS ON NOVEMBER 1ST, MR. COFF BEGAN SERVING AS A 12 B COMBAT ENGINEER IN THE ARMED FORCES IN 2019 AND CONTINUES TO SERVE OUR COUNTRY.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR. SOFF FOR HIS SERVICE.
PLEASE JOIN US IN WELCOMING OUR NEW STAFF.
AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY TO MS. LASETTE, MR. PETERSON AND MR. LUMPKINS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
OKAY, NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR FIRE AND RESCUE REPORT WITH CHIEF FERGUSON.
[3. Fire Rescue Report - December]
SO, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, EDDIE FERGUSON, FIRE RESCUE CHIEF.I KNOW YOU HAVE A VERY, UH, TIGHT AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON, SO I'LL TRY TO KEEP MY, UH, COMMENTS VERY BRIEF.
[01:00:01]
TO THANK ALL THE CITIZENS WHO COMPLIED WITH THE BURN BAN WE PUT IN PLACE BACK IN, UH, NOVEMBER.UH, THE CONDITIONS HAD GOTTEN VERY DRY, UH, LOW HUMIDITY AS WELL AS BREEZY WARM CONDITIONS.
AND WE FELT THE NEED TO GO AHEAD AND PLACE A BURN BAN IN EFFECT.
THANKFULLY, THAT WAS, UH, SHORT-LIVED AND WE GOT PLENTY OF RAIN, OR AT LEAST, UH, ENOUGH RAIN TO LIFT THE BURN BAND.
WE, WE CERTAINLY DO NEED MORE RAIN TO ADDRESS THE DROUGHT IN THE AREA, BUT FROM A FIRE POTENTIAL, UH, CONDITIONS GREATLY APPROVED, UH, AS THE COOLER WE WEATHER APPROACHES.
UH, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE, UH, FOR FIRE SAFETY.
UH, PLEASE, UM, HAVE YOUR HEATING SYSTEMS CHECKED.
UH, IF YOU BURN WOOD, MAKE SURE YOUR CHIMNEY, UH, HAS BEEN CLEANED AND INSPECTED.
AND CERTAINLY, UH, IF YOU, UH, DO BURN WOOD AND YOU TAKE UP ASHES, JUST REMEMBER THAT ASHES, UH, IN A COMPACTED WAY CAN HOLD HEAT FOR WEEKS AFTER THEY'RE TAKEN UP.
AND WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE FIRE THIS YEAR.
UH, FORTUNATELY IT WAS NOT A STRUCTURE FIRE WHERE, UH, ASHES HAD BEEN, UH, COLD FOR DAYS THAT ACTUALLY KICKED UP IN THE WARM BREEZY CONDITIONS AND SET THE, UH, THE FIELD ON FIRE AND THE WOODS ON FIRE.
SO ASHES, UH, CERTAINLY HOLD HEAT FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIMES WHEN THEY'RE CONDENSED AND COMPACTED.
UH, THINK ABOUT, UH, THE ANIMALS.
I KNOW WE ARE AGRICULTURAL COMMUNITY AND WE ALSO ENJOY OUR PETS, UH, HEAT LAMPS.
UH, WE JUST REMIND EVERYONE TO PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH HEAT LAMPS, UH, IN BARNS AND AROUND, UH, FLAMMABLE MATERIALS AND STRAW AND HAY AND THAT TYPE OF THING.
UH, WE DON'T LIKE TO SEE FIRES STARTED BY HEAT LAMPS, AND PARTICULARLY WHEN WE LOSE, UH, ANIMALS AND PETS, UH, IN THAT SITUATION.
UH, CERTAINLY, UH, CHRISTMAS TREES AND HOLIDAY DECORATIONS.
UH, PEOPLE TEND TO FOCUS ON, UH, FIRES THAT ARE STARTED BY CHRISTMAS TREES.
BUT HONESTLY, UH, NFPA SAYS ABOUT 170 AVERAGE HOUSE FIRES ARE CAUSED BY CHRISTMAS TREES, BUT ABOUT 800 FIRES, HOUSE FIRES ARE CAUSED BY HOLIDAY DECORATIONS, UH, NOT JUST CHRISTMAS TREES.
MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE A WORKING SMOKE ALARM IN YOUR RESIDENCE.
UH, IF YOU NEED ONE, LET US KNOW.
WITH, UH, AT THERE AT FIRE RESCUE, UH, YOU CAN CALL 8 0 4 5 5 6 5 3 0 4.
UM, AND CERTAINLY, UM, NOT JUST A SMOKE ALARM, BUT IF YOU BURN, UH, FOSSIL FUELS AND THAT TYPE OF THING TO EAT YOUR HOME, YOU NEED TO CARBON A MONOXIDE DETECTOR AS WELL.
OUR CALL VOLUME, UM, IS SORT OF FLAT COMPARED TO LAST YEAR.
UH, WE THANK GOODNESS AND HOPE WE DON'T HAVE THOSE LARGE, UH, WEATHER GENERATOR THAT GENERATES HUNDREDS OF CALLS IN A WEEKEND, UH, IN 2023.
BUT, UH, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS UP OR AMBULANCE TRANSPORTS.
UM, IN 2022, WE DID 2,253 AMBULANCE TRANSPORTS TODAY WE'RE AT 2,229, AND LAST YEAR THE SAME TIME WE WERE AT 2086.
SO THE AMBULANCE TRANSPORTS OBVIOUSLY, UM, ON A RISE.
AND, UH, THAT IS, THAT TAKES THE UNIT OUTTA THE COUNTY AND OUR STAFF, UM, AWAY FROM THEIR FIRST TWO DISTRICT AND GETTING BACK, UH, BACK IN.
I KNOW THE BOARD ALWAYS LIKES TO KNOW ABOUT HOLIDAY ACTIVITIES GOING ON IN THE FIRE STATIONS.
UH, THERE WAS A STANDARD BREAKFAST LAST SATURDAY MORNING AT COMPANY FOUR THAT WAS WELL ATTENDED.
AND, UH, THIS, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO DECEMBER THE 16TH.
THERE'S A SANTA BREAKFAST AT COMPANY FIVE AND ALSO ONE AT COMPANY SIX.
AND YOU CAN SEE OUR WEBSITES FOR THAT.
SANTA RUNS ARE, UH, ARE BEING PLANNED OUT.
AND WE HAVE THE DATES FOR MOST OF THE SANTA RUNS WHERE WE, UH, COME INTO THE COMMUNITIES WITH, UH, SANTA CLAUS ON THE FIRE ENGINE FOR THE CHILDREN.
AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT ALL THAT IS POSTED ON OUR SOCIAL MEDIA SITES SO THAT, UH, EVERYONE, UH, CERTAINLY CAN BE, BE AWARE OF THAT.
UM, AND WITH THAT I'M JUST GOING TO SAY LIKE OTHERS HAVE, UM, HOW APPRECIATIVE I AM AND HOW APPRECIATIVE FIRE RESCUE IS FOR MS. LAS COLLETTE, MR. PETERSON'S AND MR. LUMPKINS, UH, SERVICE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY THING THAT COMES TO MIND, MANY THINGS COME TO MIND, BUT THE THING THAT I THINK COMES TO MIND IS DEDICATION AND COMMITMENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL HAVE SHOWN, NOT JUST TO PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT ALL THE BUSINESS AND THE COUNTY, AND OF COURSE, THIS WHOLE BOARD.
AND, UH, CERTAINLY WANNA THANK YOU FOR THAT AND, UH, EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR GLAND COUNTY, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
NEXT ON OUR AGENDA FOR REPORTS, WE HAVE OUR REGISTERED AND ELECTORAL AND ELECTORAL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE.
I SEE MR. MULLIGAN AND CHAIR, UH, JOHNSON.
[4. Registrar/Electoral Board]
GOOD AFTERNOON.UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
UH, WITH ME TODAY, I HAVE THE CHAIR OF THE ELECTORAL BOARD, PAMELA JOHNSON, AND VICE CHAIR BOB WALKER.
AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER SUCCESSFUL ELECTION UNDER OUR BELT, UH, 12,884 OF OUR 22,328 REGISTERED VOTERS.
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OUT, UM, TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD FOR THE NOVEMBER 7TH ELECTION.THAT'S ABOUT, UH, 58% TURNOUT.
UM, IT WOULD TAKE ME SOME TIME TO GO THROUGH ALL THE RESULTS, UH, AND I KNOW TIME IS SHORT, SO, UM, MOST WERE UNOPPOSED ANYWAY, BUT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW SHAKEUPS, UH, WITH A NEW COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY, AS YOU KNOW, UH, THREE NEW BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, MEMBERS OUT OF FIVE AND FOUR NEW SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS OUT OF FIVE.
VERY FEW ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
WE DID HAVE SOME LONG LINES AT ONE OF OUR PRECINCTS, UH, PRECINCT 4 0 2 CENTERVILLE, WHICH, UM, IS THE ONE WITH 3,980 ISH VOTERS.
UH, SO THAT'S JUST MORE A SIGN THAT SOMETHING REALLY HAS TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT PRECINCT.
BEFORE THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION NEXT YEAR, UM, ON ELECTION DAY, WE WERE AT 3,980, AND WE'RE GROWING FAST.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT, THE ONLY REAL ISSUES WERE, UM, SOME PRETTY UNACCEPTABLE BEHAVIORS BY SOME CANDIDATES ON ELECTION DAY.
AND, UM, THE DAY BEFORE, WHILE SETTING UP, UM, SIGNS AND TENTS AND STUFF, UM, IT JUST WAS NOT A GOOD LOOK FOR GLAND COUNTY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT MAY CAUSE A CERTAIN POLLING PLACE TO NOT WANNA BE A POLLING PLACE ANYMORE.
I HOPE THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BUT THAT, THAT IS A POSSIBILITY.
UM, SO YEAH, I JUST HOPE, UH, SOME CORRECTIVE ACTION IS TAKEN THERE.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, PREPARATIONS ARE ALREADY UNDERWAY FOR OUR NEXT ELECTION.
ABSENTEE VOTING BEGINS JANUARY 19TH FOR THE, UH, MARCH PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT.
AND THAT'S THE FIRST OUT OF THREE ELECTIONS NEXT YEAR, ENDING WITH THE BIG ONE, THE PRESIDENTIAL, UH, ELECTION IN, UH, NOVEMBER, NEXT NOVEMBER.
AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR THEM THAT'S SEEING ANYTHING? THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.
AND EVERYTHING YOU WENT THROUGH.
BOARD THE NEXT, UH, FEW REPORTS, THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY REPORT, THE AP REPORT,
[5. Planning and Development Activity]
AND THE DECEMBER 5TH BROADBAND REPORT ARE IN YOUR PACKET.WE WILL HAVE, UM, A MUCH, UH, MORE IN DEPTH DISCUSSION BROADBAND HERE IN THE NEW BUSINESS SECTION.
UM, WE ARE LIMITED ON TIME, BUT I DO WANT TO OPEN IT UP FOR ANY OF OUR INDIVIDUAL BOARD REPORTS.
I'LL JUST SAY, I'LL, I'LL REPRESENT US AT THE LAST, UH, TPO MEETING THIS THURSDAY.
UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING THAT.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING OUTTA THAT, I'LL PASS IT ALONG, BUT DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING.
THE, UM, FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE MET, UH, IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, AND THERE'LL BE, UH, LOOKS LIKE ABOUT THREE ITEMS, UH, ON THIS BOARD'S AGENDA TODAY THAT WE WILL COVER, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT DURING OUR MEETING.
ONE IS THE ANNUAL CONSOLIDATED FINANCIAL REPORT, AND WE HAVE OUR AUDITOR PB MAYORS IN THE HOUSE, AND THEY'LL PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD.
UH, ANOTHER ONE WAS THE, UM, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT POLICIES FOR THE COUNTY.
AND THOSE COME FORWARD WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMITTEE.
AND THE LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, IS THE FIRST QUARTER OF FY 20 FOUR'S QUARTERLY FINANCIAL PROJECTIONS.
AND THAT'LL BE COVERED UNDER ITEM 12, NEW BUSINESS.
UH, AND THAT'LL BE PRESENTED BY OUR DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, UH, CARLA CAVE.
UM, JUST VERY QUICKLY, WE HAD OUR CVTA MEETING, UM, WHERE THERE'S GONNA BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TURNOVER WHEN YOU WORK ON THESE REGIONAL BOARDS AND FOLKS MOVE AWAY.
BUT I DID WANNA TAKE A SECOND TO CALL OUT SPECIFICALLY.
UM, A GREAT FRIEND OF MINE, PATRICIA PAGE, UH, SUPERVISOR IN NEW KENT COUNTY, WHO PASSED AWAY AFTER A LONG, LONG, VERY DIFFICULT BATTLE WITH CANCER.
UM, SHE WAS A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH, AND SHE GOT TO SEE THE SHOVEL GOING THE GROUND FOR HER 64 WIDENING THROUGH NEW KENT COUNTY.
SO, UH, OUR, OUR PRAYERS GO TO HER FAMILY AND TO THEIR, THEIR COUNTY.
AND, UM, SHE'LL BE VERY MISSED AT THE CBTA AND THE TPO AND THE TPO.
AND I THINK PLAN RV ALTERNATE TOO IS UNMATCHED DETERMINATION, UN UNMATCHED DETERMINATION.
UM, AND, AND QUITE QUITE A, I THINK YOU SAID AN AN ALLY OF, OF OURS AND, AND AN ALLY IN THE REGION.
UM, AND, UM, A HELL OF A BIKER AND A WONDERFUL FISHERMAN AS WELL.
UM, THANKS FOR ADDING THAT, MR. LUMPKINS.
WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO OUR CONSENT AGENDA NOW.
AS ALWAYS, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL HAVE MR. CARPENTER
[XI. Consent Agenda]
GO THROUGH IT, AND I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UM, TAKE AS A SLATE OR WE PULL ITEMS[01:10:01]
OUT INDIVIDUALLY.MR. CARPENTER, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE HAVE FOUR ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT.
THE FIRST ITEM, THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE, UH, HAS APPROVED A SERIES OF UPDATES TO THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT POLICIES FOR THE COUNTY, UH, LAST IN AUGUST OF 2020, UH, BASED ON COMPARISONS WITH BEST PRACTICES IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND CONSISTENT WITH PURSUIT OF A STRONG CREDIT RATING FOR THE COUNTY, AND THE POSITIVE RECOGNITION FOR OUR FINANCIAL REPORTING AND BUDGETING, WE SUGGESTED AMENDING THE THREE EXISTING POLICIES THE FOLLOWING WAY.
NUMBER ONE, WE SUGGEST THE OPERATING BUDGET POLICY TO BETTER DEFINE WHAT IS MEANT BY A BALANCED BUDGET AND INTRODUCING THE EXPECTATION OF PRODUCING STRUCTURALLY BALANCED BUDGETS, WHICH DO NOT ALLOW THE USE OF FUND BALANCE IN ORDER TO CREATE A BALANCED BUDGET.
THE SECOND ITEM IS THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGET POLICY, UH, LOOKING TO REQUIRE THE DETERMINATION OF THE POTENTIAL SOURCE OF FUTURE FUNDS NECESSARY TO ENGAGE IN PROJECTS IDENTIFIED IN THE FIRST FIVE YEARS OF OUR 25 YEAR CIP.
THE THIRD ITEM IS THE FUND BALANCE RESERVE POLICY.
WE PROPOSE ADDING A NEW CATEGORY OF FUND BALANCE THAT OF AVAILABLE FUND BALANCE, WHICH ARE FUNDS BOTH ASSIGNED AND UNASSIGNED AVAILABLE FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER ITS USE OF.
FINALLY, THE FOURTH ONE IS THE REVENUE STABILIZATION RESERVE, WITH A MORE DETAIL REGARDING THE PROCESS FOR ACCESSING THE RESERVE, AS WELL AS BETTER DEFINITION OF TERMS WITHIN IT.
STAFF REVIEWED THE AMENDMENTS OF TO THESE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT POLICIES WITH THE AUDIT AND FINANCE COMMITTEE ARE MEETING EARLIER TODAY AND RECOMMENDS THEIR, PROPOSED THEIR APPROVAL.
UH, THE NEXT TWO ITEMS ARE, UM, ITEM ONE AND TWO, REFER TO THE MOSAIC SECTION ONE AND MOSAIC SECTION FOUR A SIDEWALKS.
THEY'RE LOCATED OUTSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND ARE MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OF MOSAIC.
HOWEVER, SINCE THE SIDEWALKS ARE REQUIRED BY VDOT SUBDIVISION STREET ACCEPTANCE REQUIREMENTS IS A FUNCTION OF PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY.
VDOT IS REQUIRING UCHIN COUNTY ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT WITH THEM TO ENSURE THE SIDEWALKS WILL BE MAINTAINED IN PERPETUITY TO PROVIDE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY REMAINS STRONG ALONG THESE ROADS.
THE SIDEWALKS WILL BE MAINTAINED BY MOSAIC HOA.
AND FINALLY, ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS THE 2024 HOLIDAY SCHEDULE, CONSISTENT WITH ACTIONS BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AT ITS DECEMBER 4TH, 2012 MEETING, UCHIN COUNTY SHALL OBSERVE ANY HOLIDAY TIME DESIGNATED BY THE GOVERNOR AS A HOLIDAY FOR THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA.
UH, THE UCHIN COUNTY HOLIDAY CALENDAR FOR 2024 IS ATTACHED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKETS.
UH, WE WOULD NOTE THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS AMENDED THE CALENDAR FROM TIME TO TIME TO INCLUDE ADDITIONAL DAYS IF THE BOARD CONTINUES TO, TO MIRROR THE OBSERVANCE OF HOLIDAY TIME GRANTED TO THE STATE FOR COUNTY EMPLOYEES.
AND ANY ADDITIONAL TIME GRANTED BY THE GOVERNOR WOULD ALSO BE GRANTED TO HOLIDAY STAFF.
MS. CHAIRMAN, THOSE ARE THE FOUR ITEMS UP FOR CONSIDERATION BOARD.
I'LL OPEN UP TO ANY QUESTIONS PRIOR TO THE MOTION IF WE HAD WANNA DISCUSS AT ANY OF THE ITEMS, OR I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS, BUT I, I WANNA, BEFORE I FINISH MY MOTION, JUST CLARIFY, WERE THE FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT POLICIES AMENDED FROM WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR PRINTOUT? WERE THEY AMENDED AT THE, WAS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME FROM THE AUDIT COMMITTEE? DOES IT PRESENT AMENDMENTS TO WHAT'S IN OUR PACKAGE? THERE ARE SLIGHT VERBIAGE CHANGES.
NOTHING OF, UM, ANY WE OBJECTIONS? NOT ANY AS SO, SO IS, SO I'LL JUST, I'LL LOOK TO OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY, BUT I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION THAT OUR CONSENT AGENDA BE ADOPTED AS IT'S PRESENTED IN OUR PACKAGE WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE, UH, RECOMMENDED FROM THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE.
AND THAT, THAT ASSUMES THAT THERE'S A RECORD THAT IS, THAT WE HAVE.
MR. BAR, ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE ITEMS? MS. LASETTE? JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, JUST SO THAT WE'RE CLEAR.
THIS, UH, THESE NEW POLICIES GO INTO EFFECT JANUARY 1ST, 2024.
IS THAT, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
UM, MR. PETERSON, ANY COMMENTARY YOU WANNA PROVIDE? UM, NO.
I THINK, UM, UH, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING, UH, THE CHANGES, UH, AND THE RATIONALE BEHIND THEM.
THE STRUCTURALLY BALANCED BUDGET JUST MATCHES RECURRING WITH RECURRING AND DOESN'T PERMIT NON-RECURRING TO FUND RECURRING EXPENSES.
UM, AND DEFINING AVAILABLE RESOURCES IS SOMETHING THAT THE RATING AGENCIES, UM, UH, LIKE TO SEE.
AND, UH, THE CIP FUNDING IT FOR THE FIRST, UH, FIVE YEARS SEEMS LIKE A GOOD MOVE.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF, UH, THE CONSENT AS MR. P KINS HAS PRESENTED, PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
UM, I'VE GOT US SET AT ABOUT AN HOUR AND 15 MINUTES.
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A BREAK OR ARE WE OKAY TO GO BREAK? OKAY, TAKE A BREAK.LET'S DO 10 MINUTES BIG HAND ON THE 11
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EARLIER.[01:25:04]
SO, BUT OKAY.WE ARE MOVING INTO NEW BUSINESS.
OUR FIRST ORDER OF NEW BUSINESS IS A PRESENTATION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT BY OUR, OUR FRIENDS AT PB MAYORS.
[XII. New Business]
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE LEFT[1. Presentation of the Fiscal Year 2023 Annual Comprehensive Financial Report by the County’s External Auditors, PBMares]
THE AUDITORIUMI ASSUMED THAT THEY WERE HERE FOR THE AUDIT REPORT.
IT'S, IT'S, IT HAPPENS TO ME A LOT.
THE PRESENTATIONS HAPPEN AND THE BOY SCOUTS AND THE GIRL SCOUTS, AND THEY ALL ROLL OUT, AND THEY SHOULD BE STICKING AROUND FOR THIS.
'CAUSE THIS IS WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A A COUPLE MINUTES HERE THIS AFTERNOON.
AS WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE IN THE PAST, WE DID MEET WITH THE FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE BEFORE THIS MEETING, UM, AND WENT THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE VERY HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF, OF THE AUDIT AND THE AUDIT PROCESS.
UM, PLEASED TO REPORT THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED AN UNMODIFIED OPINION YET AGAIN THIS YEAR, WHICH MEANS THAT'S A CLEAN OPINION.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
UM, WE ALSO HAD NO FINDINGS WHEN IT CAME TO YOUR SINGLE AUDIT AND YOUR FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT YOU SPENT.
UM, WE ALSO HAD NO RECOMMENDATIONS OR FINDINGS WHEN IT CAME TO INTERNAL CONTROL AND COMPLIANCE.
SO THOSE ARE ALL WONDERFUL THINGS THAT, THAT I GET TO REPORT.
UM, WE ALSO HAD NO JOURNAL ENTRIES.
UM, PRETTY UNUSUAL NOT TO HAVE THOSE, UM, MAY, MAYBE NOT JUST HERE, BUT A LOT OF PLACES.
IT WOULD BE UNUSUAL NOT TO HAVE ANY AUDIT ENTRY.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE THIS YEAR.
SO, UM, KUDOS TO, TO CARLA AND THE FINANCE TEAM HERE FOR THAT.
UM, WE DID IMPLEMENT A NEW STANDARD THIS YEAR.
UM, THAT ALWAYS TAKES THE EXTRA TIME.
I KNOW WE WERE PUSHING UP TO THE WIRE TO GET THIS FINISHED AND GET IN FRONT OF YOU HERE TODAY.
UM, HOPEFULLY THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY NEW STANDARDS COMING OUT THAT WILL IMPACT THAT.
AND MAYBE WE CAN, UH, WE CAN MOVE THIS TIMEFRAME UP A LITTLE BIT.
UM, I KNOW IN THE PAST WE'VE ALWAYS HAD TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING JUST TO GET THIS DONE, UM, BUT THE STATE AND HAS CHANGED THAT DEADLINE TO DECEMBER 15TH.
SO WE ARE GONNA MAKE THAT DEADLINE THIS YEAR WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. SO, UM, THAT IS FANTASTIC.
UM, I DON'T HAVE MUCH ELSE I REALLY WANNA GO OVER ON THE AUDIT ITSELF, UM, BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T JUMP IN ON THE CELEBRATION, UM, OF THE THREE PEOPLE WHO ARE RETIRING FROM THE BOARD AND LEAVING THIS YEAR.
UM, I, I NEVER GOT TO WORK MUCH WITH MR. LUMPKINS IN THAT FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE GROUP.
UM, MR. ALVAREZ IS IN THE AUDIENCE.
UM, I KNOW THAT HE AND MS. LAS COLLETTE, MR. PETERSON, UM, WE'VE BEEN THE AUDIT FIRM FOR A LOT OF THOSE YEARS THAT, THAT YOU WERE HERE.
UM, AND I HAVE TRULY ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU ALL IN THE AUDIT COMMITTEE CAPACITY.
UM, THERE ARE MANY FINANCING AUDIT COMMITTEES THAT I PRESENT TO.
THEY HAVE NO COMMENTS, THEY HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
UM, I CAN HONESTLY SAY EVERY TIME THAT I HAVE BEEN WITH YOUR COMMITTEE, UM, YOU HAVE HAD COMMENTS, YOU HAVE HAD QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, FOR LEARNING, FOR UNDERSTANDING.
UM, AND I TRULY HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH ALL OF YOU ALL IN THAT FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE CAPACITY.
SO, FOR THOSE WHO HAD NO POLITICAL, UM, ASPIRATIONS AND, AND DIDN'T KNOW THIS IS WHERE YOU WOULD END UP, KUDOS, UM, TO HOW WELL THAT YOU ALWAYS REPRESENTED YOURSELVES IN GLAND COUNTY.
UM, I I, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE LISTED IN YOUR MONSTROUS, WHEREAS IS, UM, I DON'T THINK A LOT OF THE CITIZENS UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH MONEY THE COUNTY SAVES BY HAVING AAA RATING.
UM, THE DEBT THAT YOU ISSUE, THE DEBT YOU GO OUT FOR, THOSE RATES ARE LOWER.
HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO GET AAA RATING.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS HANDED OUT EASILY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTAGES NATIONWIDE, BUT IT IS LOW OF HOW MANY COUNTIES AND CITIES AND AUTHORITIES HAVE AAA RATING.
UM, AND THAT PROCESS STARTS AT THE TOP.
IT STARTS WITH THE BOARD, IT STARTS WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR.
IT STARTS WITH ADOPTING NEW POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT MAKE YOU STRONGER.
UM, AND YOU HAVE DONE THAT OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS, WITHOUT A DOUBT.
UM, AND THOSE THINGS HELP THE COUNTY OF GLAND BECOME BETTER AND STAY WHERE THEY ARE.
SO, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF YOU.
I'M SUPPOSED TO BE INDEPENDENT, BUT SINCE YOU'RE ON YOUR WAY OUT, UM, I CAN SAY THOSE, JUST THE THREE OF YOU.
EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU GOTTA KEEP WORKING HARD.
UM, BUT, UM, I HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH THIS GROUP AND THAT FINANCE AND AUDIT COMMITTEE, SO CONGRATULATIONS AND, AND GOOD LUCK.
I WILL MISS BEING ABLE TO HAVE THOSE MEETINGS WITH YOU GUYS NEXT YEAR.
BUT I DO LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, CHANGE AND, AND IN THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'RE HEADING.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THE AUDIT ITSELF, OR ANY COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE ME TO ADDRESS.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.
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YOU.ALRIGHT, NEXT UP WE HAVE ANOTHER PARTNER.
UM, A PRESENTATION FOR FIRE, FIRE BROADBAND.
[2. Presentation by Firefly Fiber Broadband on the Regional Internet Service Expansion (RISE) Project, a 2024 Virginia Telecommunication Initiative (VATI) Broadband Grant Opportunity, and Approval for the County Administrator to Sign a Letter of Support for the 2024 VATI Broadband Grant Application]
EXCITING, EXCITING NEW STUFF.GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, PAUL DRUMRIGHT, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS MANAGER.
AND, UH, JUST WOULD LIKE TO THANK, UH, THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE DEPARTING FOR YOUR SUPPORT THAT YOU'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS FOR OUR BROADBAND EFFORTS.
I COULDN'T LET YOU LEAVE WITHOUT ONE LAST BROADBAND UPDATE AND A IN-PERSON UPDATE FROM OUR PARTNERS AT FIREFLY FIBER BROADBAND.
SO I'D ASK GARY WOOD IF YOU CAN COME ON UP.
UH, HE'S GONNA GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AND ALSO TALK ABOUT SOME NEW EXCITING OPPORTUNITIES WE HAVE TO GO FORWARD BACKWARDS.
AND, AND THANKS FOR GIVING ME A CHANCE TO COME UP AND, UH, GIVE A QUICK UPDATE.
LET ME START BY THANKING EVERYONE FOR YOUR SERVICE, WHO WAS HERE.
UH, AS I'VE TOLD MY STORY SEVERAL TIMES, I WAS ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR EIGHT YEARS IN NELSON, AND THEN I GOT OFF FOR GOOD BEHAVIOR.
Y'ALL MUST NOT HAVE DONE AS WELL, YOU HAD TO DO 12
BUT, UH, UH, THAT'S WORK THAT YOU WILL NEVER GET THE PAY OR THE THANK YOUS THAT YOU DESERVE.
AND SO LET ME JUST OFFER A THANK YOU FROM A PARTNER WHO'S REALLY APPRECIATED BEING HERE AND SEEING WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR YOUR CITIZENS IN TERMS OF THE BROADBAND, UH, EFFORT, AS WELL AS EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO LET'S, LET'S RUN REAL QUICKLY.
UH, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A QUICK UPDATE, AND THEN I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM, UH, VADI GRANT PROGRAM.
AND I'M GONNA ASK YOU FOR SOMETHING.
SO IF YOU CAN WATCH FOR THAT AS WE GO.
UM, THESE ARE THE AREAS THAT, UH, FIREFLY HAS BROKEN THE COUNTY UP INTO IN TERMS OF OUR SERVICE.
UH, WE HAVE SERVICE AVAILABLE IN THE, UH, SHANNON HILL AREA IN RAPPAHANNOCK.
UM, WE HAVE, UH, AN INTERSTATE 64 CROSSING, UM, THAT WE'VE GOTTA COMPLETE TO GET THIS A FEW AREAS IN, IN, UM, GLAND STILL.
UH, WE HAVE LIGHT TO THE OTHER SIDE OF 64, UH, COMING INTO GLAND.
AND WE'RE WORKING ON THE CONNECTIONS IN THAT, WHAT WE CALL COPPER LINE CIRCUIT OUT OF MOUNT HOPE.
UH, SO THOSE FOLKS SHOULD BE CONNECTED PRETTY SOON.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE LITTLE, UH, PIECE WHERE WE COME ACROSS FROM CARTERSVILLE THAT'S IN, IN THE, UH, CVC AREA THAT, UH, HAS SERVICE.
WE ARE WORKING WITH, UM, DOMINION ON THEIR MIDDLE MILE PROGRAM FOR A BIG PART OF IDI.
UH, THEY ARE ACTIVELY BUILDING AND, UM, I BELIEVE THEY'VE GOT ABOUT 120 MILES OF CONSTRUCTION ON THEIR PIECE OF THE PROJECT.
AND THEN WE TAKE OFF FROM THERE AND GO DOWN LATERALS AND CONNECT THE ONES THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE, UH, UH, ROAD WHERE THEY HAVE FIBER JUST WITH SERVICE DROPS.
UH, THEY HAVE COMPLETED ABOUT 50 OR A LITTLE OVER 50 MILES, MAYBE CLOSE TO 60 MILES OF THAT, AND HAVE RELEASED EVEN MORE THAN THAT, THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON.
THEY CANNOT LEASE THAT TO US UNTIL THEY GET FINAL APPROVAL FROM THE STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION, WHICH WILL PROBABLY HAPPEN IN APRIL OF NEXT YEAR.
SO WE'RE DOING SOME THINGS SO THAT WE CAN BE PREPARED.
SO AS SOON AS THEY CAN LEASE IT, WE CAN TRY TO GET STARTED WITH SOME CONNECTIONS.
SO WE'RE WORKING IN SOME OF THE AREAS THAT THEY'RE WORKING IN.
UM, THEN WE ALSO HAVE, UH, SOME FUNDING FROM USDA FOR A, UH, RECONNECT GRANT.
AND IN THAT WORK, UH, WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, PLANNING GOING ON.
WE'RE, UH, FINALIZING A, A SITE FOR OUR COMMUNICATION HUTT, AND THEN THAT WORK WILL TAKE OFF.
SO WORKING IN MANY DIFFERENT AREAS, OVERHEAD AND UNDERGROUND, YOU SHOULD SEE LOTS OF VEHICLES AROUND.
UM, AND THAT'LL CONTINUE FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS ON OUR WEBSITE.
WE KEEP EVERYTHING UP TO DATE AS FAR AS WHEN WE EXPECT TO MAKE CONNECTIONS.
WE DO HAVE A LITTLE AREA ALONG PAIN ROAD AND SLIPPERY ROCK THAT WE'VE RELEASED FOR CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'LL BE UNDERGROUND, THAT'LL BE TIED BACK INTO THE CVEC SYSTEM.
UM, AND, UH, THAT WORK WE EXPECT TO GET DONE FAIRLY QUICKLY AND, AND HAVE PEOPLE CONNECTED BEFORE, UH, SPRING.
UM, THE GOOSE AND RECONNECT WE'RE, WE'RE TARGETING GETTING TO, UH, CONNECTIONS BY SUMMER.
UM, AND THE, THE WINTER THREE SQUARE, THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST AREAS OF, OF THE DOMINION MIDDLE MILE WHERE THEY'VE, UH, COMPLETED THE WORK.
BEING ABLE TO CONNECT REALLY IS DEPENDING ON WHEN WE GET THAT APPROVAL FROM THE STATE CORPORATION COMMISSION IN THAT AREA.
SO THOSE ARE QUICK HIGHLIGHTS.
NOW I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT PROJECT WAS AND WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE AND WHAT SOME OPPORTUNITIES ARE.
UM, SO ALL OF THE DARK BLUE AREAS HERE ARE AREAS THAT ARE EITHER IN THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA ELECTRIC FOOTPRINT, THE RAP PANIC, ELECTRIC FOOTPRINT, OR WE'RE PART OF OUR BODY GRANT OR PART OF THE RECONNECT GRANT.
ALTOGETHER, THAT COVERS OVER 5,000 HOUSEHOLDS.
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ATTEMPTED WITH THE LAST BIG BODY GRANT TO GET ALL KNOWN LARGE UNSERVED AREAS, WHICH WAS MAINLY THOSE WESTERN AREAS WHERE THERE WAS NO SERVICE OF ANY TYPE AVAILABLE.AND WE, WE THOUGHT WE DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB.
WE KNEW THAT, UM, THERE WERE A FEW SPOTS WHERE THERE WERE LONG DRIVEWAYS THAT, UH, COMCAST DID NOT REACH BECAUSE THEIR EXTENSION POLICY DOESN'T GO VERY FAR.
AND SOMETIMES IT CAN BE REALLY COSTLY TO EXTEND.
SO WE ASSUMED THERE WOULD BE A, THERE WERE A FEW HUNDRED OF THOSE AROUND THE COUNTY.
UM, LAST YEAR WE DID A, A APPLICATION FOR A GRANT AND DIDN'T INCLUDE UCHIN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT EXACTLY WHERE THOSE WERE.
AND WE DIDN'T THINK THERE WERE THAT MANY.
THIS YEAR MORE INFORMATION'S AVAILABLE.
AND IN FACT, THE MOST RECENT INFORMATION WAS JUST POSTED ON THE FEDERAL BROADBAND MAP ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO.
THE RED.YOU SEE, ARE LOCATIONS THAT ARE DEFINED AS UNSERVED TODAY.
SO THOSE, ALL THOSE LITTLE FRECKLES WE'VE BUILT INTO ANOTHER PROJECT TO REACH ALL OF THE REDMONDS THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY REACH EVERY SINGLE UNSERVED AREA.
THERE MAY STILL BE 30 OR 40 THAT ARE IN THE REALLY HARD TO REACH AREAS, BUT WE'VE COME UP WITH A PLAN TO REACH ALL OF THESE.
NOW, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AND YOU KNOW, GOSMAN COUNTY, YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE HOMES THAN THOSE RED DOTS.
THAT'S BECAUSE, UH, AND I THINK I HAVE A BETTER PICTURE HERE.
UM, THESE ARE THOSE HARD TO REACH AREAS.
COMCAST, ON THEIR MOST RECENT FILING WITH THE FCC ADDED ABOUT 800 TO A THOUSAND LOCATIONS IN UCHIN COUNTY THAT THEY NO LONGER SAY THEY CAN SERVE, THAT THEY'VE BEEN CLAIMING SERVICE TO.
SO SINCE THEY SAY THEY CAN'T SERVE 'EM AND THEY'RE ELIGIBLE, WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO LET US GO SERVE 'EM AS PART OF THIS PROJECT THIS YEAR.
SO THIS IS A LITTLE MORE OF A CLOSEUP, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THEY'RE KIND OF SPOTTED AROUND IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
AND I THINK I HAVE ONE MORE, UM, THAT SHOWS ANOTHER AREA.
I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ONE WITH THE GREEN DOTS.
DO I, SO THAT THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT PORTIONS OFF.
SO YOU CAN SEE ON THIS ONE, THE RED DOTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE UNSERVED.
THE GREEN DOTS ARE HOMES THAT HAVE SERVICE AT AT LEAST A HUNDRED MEGABIT PER SECOND DOWNLOAD AND 20 MEGABIT PER SECOND UPLOAD, WHICH IS GENERALLY CABLE SERVICE.
SO YOU SEE THAT IT'S KIND OF INTERMINGLED.
UM, SO WHEN WE RUN THROUGH THERE WITH THIS PROJECT, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT IT COSTS TO RUN FIBER, PICK UP THE UNSERVED, AND THEN WHAT BENEFIT WE WOULD GET FROM BEING ABLE TO SELL ANY SERVICE TO THOSE OTHERS.
AND WE USE THAT TO HELP JUSTIFY THE EXPENSE, BECAUSE IT GETS PRETTY EXPENSIVE WHEN YOU, YOU'RE RUNNING TO PICK UP A FEW THAT ARE INTERS EXPRESSED LIKE THAT.
UM, SO I'M GOING THROUGH THESE FAIRLY QUICKLY.
I'LL BE GLAD TO TO GO BACK AND, AND LOOK AT ANY PARTICULAR AREA.
BUT THERE'S SOME LARGER AREAS WHERE THEY, UM, DOWN IN DOVER AND MILLER AREA, THEY HAD CLAIMED 90% COVERAGE DOWN THERE, AND NOW THEY CLAIM 10% COVERAGE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING BACK AND PICKING THOSE UP.
UH, THERE'S AREAS, UH, AND, AND A NUMBER OF PLACES THAT, THAT THEY DID THE SAME THING.
AND IN OTHER AREAS WHERE THEY JUST ADDED, THERE WERE MAYBE TWO OR THREE IN A MILE, AND NOW THEY'RE 10 IN A MILE AND THAT ARE UNSERVED.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, AT A, WE HAVE A PLAN THAT WE'LL GET TO EVERY ONE OF THESE RED DOTS AGAIN, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU TO SUPPORT IT, UH, BOTH WITH A LETTER OF SUPPORT AND WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY.
UM, SO THIS WOULD TAKE US BY ANOTHER 981 TOTAL LOCATIONS THAT ARE UNSERVED.
IT'S 112 MILES OF FIBER THAT WOULD BE BUILT IN THE COUNTY REPRESENTS $10 MILLION PLUS INVESTMENT.
UH, WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR STATE GRANTS OF, UH, JUST UNDER TWO AND A HALF MILLION FOR THIS.
AND WE'RE GONNA ASK THE COUNTY FOR 250,000, WHICH REPRESENTS ABOUT $260 PER PASSING, AND GETS US TO THE POINT WHERE WE WILL BE BREAKEVEN IF, UH, WE, WE, AND I'M PRETTY TRANSPARENT WITH OUR NUMBERS ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, WE ASSUME THAT, UH, IF WE CAN GET 60% OF THE UNSERVED PEOPLE SIGNED UP AND WE GET 30% OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVICE SIGNED UP.
AND WE'VE TYPICALLY SEEN WHEN WE GO INTO NEW AREAS,
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30 TO 40% IF WE OVERLAP AN EXISTING CABLE CARRIER.AND, UM, AROUND 60% ARE A LITTLE BETTER OF, UH, PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE OTHER OPTIONS.
SO WHEN WE HIT THOSE NUMBERS, WE HIT BREAKEVEN WITH THESE, WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD, WE REALIZE THAT THE BOARD'S CHANGING.
I REALIZE I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF NEW FOLKS WHO WILL BE BACK.
WE'RE GONNA ASK YOU IF YOU'D GIVE US A LETTER OF SUPPORT.
AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE STATE AND ASK, CAN WE ASK FOR CONTINGENT SUPPORT? WE WOULD ASK THE, THE NEW BOARD EARLY NEXT YEAR TO DECIDE IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE.
IF THEY DON'T, WE'LL RE-SCOPE AND TAKE SOME AREAS OUT SO WE CAN FIT INTO THE BUDGET WE HAVE WITHOUT COUNTY SUPPORT.
BUT IF WE CAN GET COUNTY SUPPORT, WE CAN REACH THIS ENTIRE AREA.
UM, AND THAT REALLY DOES, OTHER THAN SOME AREAS THAT MAYBE YOU CAN USE THE STATE LONG EXTENSION PROGRAM FOR, TO, TO PICK UP IN SOME REALLY, REALLY SPARSELY POPULATED AREAS.
THIS WILL GO BACK AND AS BEST WE CAN TELL, GET EVERY REMAINING ONE OF THOSE UNSERVED AREAS.
AND WE, WE WERE SURPRISED IT WAS THIS EYE.
AS I SAY THAT THE INFORMATION THAT COMCAST REPORTED TO THE FCC IN JUNE WAS RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC, UH, THE 14TH OF NOVEMBER.
SO WE JUST SAW SOME OF THESE AREAS.
WE WERE PLANNING IT AND DIDN'T HAVE NEARLY AS BIG A PROJECT UNTIL THANKSGIVING WEEK.
GUESS WHAT I DID THANKSGIVING WEEKEND.
UM, SO I, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I DON'T WANNA GO BACK AND FORTH TOO MUCH, BUT WE'LL END UP WITH FIBER.
AND ON MOST MAJOR ROADS, WE'RE COMING ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BYPASS.
UM, WE'RE GOING IN MOST EVERY LOCATION WHERE WE CAN FIND IT.
WE'RE NOT IN THE DENSEST NEIGHBORHOODS OR, UH, SUBDIVISIONS IN MOST CASES BECAUSE COMCAST HAS THOSE COVERED.
BUT THERE ARE SOME SUBDIVISIONS WHERE THEY LEFT A NUMBER OUT AND WE'RE, WE'RE ASSUMING WE'LL GO IN THERE IN ORDER TO PICK THOSE UP AS WELL.
UH, SO I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION AND SOME BIG MAPS IN A SHORT PERIOD.
MR. VARS, I JUST, I JUST HAVE ONE CLARIFICATION QUESTION.
YOU, YOU MENTIONED 60, 30, 10 IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGES 30 THAT HAVE IT, THOSE ARE THOSE COMCAST PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN DROPPED, OR WHAT ARE THE 30% WHO ALREADY HAVE SERVICE YOU'RE TRYING TO CONTRACT? OH, NO.
SO WHEN I'M DOING MY MATH, YEAH.
SO I ASSUME IF WE'RE GOING TO AN UNSERVED HOME, 60% OF THOSE WILL SIGN UP FOR OUR SERVICE.
30% OF WHAT ARE SERVED WOULD BE, THEY HAVE COMCAST, THEY HAVE SOME FORM OF INTERNET OPTION TODAY.
THEY DON'T, DO NOT QUALIFY FOR GRANT FUNDS, SO WE WON'T GET ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDS, BUT I'M COUNTING THAT POTENTIAL REVENUE IN HELPING US JUSTIFY OUR EXTENSION OUT TO 'EM.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, MR. LANKAS.
YEAH, SO I JUST, MY OWN EDUCATION, WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT BREAKEVEN, I WAS CLOSELY PAYING ATTENTION.
WHEN YOU GET, IF YOU MEET YOUR NUMBERS, YOU SAID YOU'RE A LITTLE HIGHER THAN 60% RIGHT? ON THE UNSERVED.
SO IF YOU HIT 60 AND THEN YOU HIT 30 OF WHERE YOU'RE SERVING, YOU SAID YOU BREAK EVEN AT THAT POINT, RIGHT? IS THAT, SO I'M ASSUMING THE WAY YOU PHRASED THAT, THAT'S OPERATIONAL BREAKEVEN.
THAT'S WITH THE, UH, THE GRANT FUNDS THAT WE'VE REQUESTED.
AT THAT POINT, UM, OPERATIONALLY WE NEED TO, UH, BE ABLE TO, UH, AFFORD OUR CAPITAL INVESTMENT OFF ABOUT $25 A MONTH FROM OUR, UH, THE REVENUE FROM CUSTOMERS.
OUR BASE PACKAGE IS $50 FOR A HUNDRED GIGABIT SERVICE.
SO IT'S ABOUT HALF OF THAT JUST GOES TO PAY FOR THE FIBER.
UM, SO YES, WITH OUR MIX OF CUSTOMERS, AND THAT ACTUALLY ASSUMES WE WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE MORE THAN THE, THE BASE FROM EVERYBODY.
BUT THAT'S WHERE THE BREAKEVEN IS OPERATION BREAKEVEN.
SO, UM, AND I SHOULD KNOW THIS FROM ALL THESE, BUT DEF I ALWAYS WANNA MAKE SURE WE, WHAT'S UN DEFINE UNSERVED BECAUSE WHEN YOU SHOWED THAT MAP WITH ALL THE GREEN IN THERE, THE GREEN INTERSPERSED WITH THE RED, RIGHT? I'M ASSUMING THAT NOW, NOW SOMEBODY THAT'S RED, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NEAR GREEN, THAT'S TELLING ME THEY'RE UNSERVED BECAUSE THE CARRIER'S REFUSING TO THE CARRIER, THERE'S REFUSING TO DO ANY EXTENSION, OR IT'S JUST PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE OR WHICH IS IT? SO, UH, WELL, LET ME GO BACK JUST A LITTLE BIT.
OUR BIG BODY PROJECT, THE DEFINITION OF UNSERVED WAS YOU, IF YOU DID NOT HAVE ACCESS TO A CARRIER, COULD PROVIDE YOU 25 MEGABIT PER SECOND DOWNLOAD AND THREE MEGABIT PER SECOND UPLOAD.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT BIG BLUE BLOB THIS YEAR.
THE DEFINITION IS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A HUNDRED MEGABIT PER SECOND DOWNLOAD AND 20 MEGABIT PER SECOND UPLOAD MOVING THE GOAL.
SO IT'S A FASTER SPEED THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE CONSIDERED AS HAVING
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ADEQUATE SERVICE THAT, SO WE DON'T TALK ABOUT UNDERSERVED, WE JUST TALK ABOUT THEY, THEY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZES UNSERVED AND UNDERSERVED USING 25 3 AND 120.THE STATE DOESN'T, THE STATE JUST USES UNSERVED OR SERVED, AND THEY USE THE 100 SLASH 20, UH, FOR THEIR GRANT PROGRAM.
SO THE, UH, MR. MR. WOOD, THERE, THERE WAS AN INTERESTING, WHEN WE SPOKE, THERE IS A, A DEFINITION THAT YOU USE REGARDING HOW QUICKLY COMCAST COULD ACTUALLY HOOK SOMEONE UP.
SO TO BE SERVED, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ACCESS TO 100 MEGABIT PER SECOND DOWNLOAD, 20 MEGABIT PER SECOND UPLOAD.
AND IT'S, THESE ARE ALL HARDWIRED, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT CAPACITY ON YOU.
YOU CAN DO IT, UH, BY LICENSED FIXED WIRELESS, NOT UNLICENSED.
WE'RE GETTING IN WAY INTO THE WEEDS HERE.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, BE CONNECTED WITHIN 10 DAYS AND WITHOUT A, UH, SIGNIFICANT EXTENSION COST BEYOND YOUR NORMAL SIGNUP FEE THAT HAS TURNED SOME OF THESE, THAT USED TO BE SERVED INTO UNSERVED.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, MY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE GOT IT, BUT PEOPLE OPTED OUT AND NOT IN, FOR COMCAST TO COME IN, THEY'D HAVE TO DIG THE LINES AND DO ALL THAT.
NOW THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS, THIS PROGRAM WHERE THEY OKAY.
THIS, THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE I, I AM TRYING TO STAY FOCUSED ON WHAT EVERYTHING IS.
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE ASKED FOR THE GRANT MONEY.
SO I'M THINKING THOUGH, LOOKING AT THAT IF, IF THE, IF THESE FOLKS, I MEAN, I GUESS GREEN MEANS THAT THEY NOW HAVE THAT NEW SPEED THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, GREEN, GREEN MEANS THOSE ARE FOLKS WHO, UM, HAVE ACCESS TO SOMEONE WHO CAN PROVIDE 100 SLASH 20 WITHIN 10 DAYS.
THEY MAY BE CONNECTED, THEY MAY NOT, BUT THEY MEET THE REQUIREMENT THAT THEY COULD BE WITHOUT AN EXTENSIVE, UH, A LONG EXTENSION CHARGE.
I, I, AGAIN, I MEAN, UH, MM-HMM,
YOU ASK OF THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT, BUT I, RIGHT.
I JUST, I JUST FIND IT INTERESTING TO, TO SEE ARE YOUR ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT TAKE RATES ARE, ARE THOSE THE SAME? WHEN, BECAUSE IS SOMEBODY GONNA SAY, I'M GONNA, I HAVE 25 MEGABIT NOW.
SO I MEAN, WHY, WHY WOULD THEY SIGN UP? WHY THEY SWITCH TO US? AND, AND I'M GOING BASED ON OUR HISTORICAL NUMBERS.
SO, SO YOU'VE HAD THAT, YOU'VE HAD SIMILAR SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE CAN GET THIS, BUT NOW YOU COME THROUGH AND YOU OFFER A HUNDRED, THE 30% OVERLAP, AND, UH, WE ARE IN A FEW AREAS, UM, NOT WITH GRANT FUNDING, BUT, UH, CENTRAL VIRGINIA ELECTRIC MADE SERVICE AVAILABLE TO EVERY ONE OF OUR NUMBERS.
THE ELECTRIC SIDE, UH, WE ARE IN SPRING CREEK UP AT ZION CROSSROADS.
UH, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 40% TAKE RATE THERE.
NOW, AFTER TWO YEARS, WE ARE IN LAKE MONTICELLO, AND FLUVANNA COUNTY HAS ABOUT 5,000 HOMES.
UM, WE'RE AT ABOUT 30 TO 40% TAKE RATE THERE, WHERE WE'RE OVERLAPPING COMCAST OR, OKAY.
THEY HAPPEN TO BE PROVIDER, BUT GENERALLY THAT'S WHAT WE SEE.
UM, SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE, I'M TAKING THAT RISK.
WE'RE TAKING THE RISK THAT WE'LL GET THERE.
YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU HAVE SOME COM FAIR, FAIR COMPARISONS? MM-HMM.
AND ALL, ELIZABETH, WITHIN 10 DAYS, A HUNDRED SLASH 20, THEY, THERE WERE PROVIDERS WHO WERE CLAIMING IT.
THERE ARE NO LONGER PROVIDERS.
SO THEY ARE NOW ELIGIBLE FOR FUNDING.
SO AS I UNDERSTAND, UH, I GUESS THE ASK IS THIS LETTER OF SUPPORT, THE 2024 BODY GRANT IS DUE, THE APPLICATION IS DUE ON THE 19TH OF DECEMBER THE 19TH, AND THAT'S WHEN YOU, I NEED THE LETTER OF SUPPORT.
UM, AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE GONNA ASK FOR THE, UH, FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY, AND THAT'S IN THE LETTER AND IT'S CONTINGENT UPON THE NEXT BOARD.
AND WE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO RESCOPE AND REMOVE SOME AREAS IF, IF THE FUTURE BOARD DECIDES THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT BY RE-SCOPE AND REMOVE AND ADJUST THE LOCAL YEAH, WE'D, WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS JUST USING THOSE NUMBERS I JUST GAVE YOU YEAH.
WIND BACK A LITTLE BIT AND TAKE THE HARDEST TO REACH AREAS AND, AND PULL 'EM BACK A LITTLE BIT.
THE, UM, THE, THE TWO 50 IS BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS.
IT, IT'S BASED ON THOSE NUMBERS I JUST GAVE
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YOU.AND IF YOU'RE UPTAKE IS WILDLY MORE PROFITABLE AND YOU'RE ROLLING DOUGH, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT TWO 50? WELL, FIRST I'LL HAVE TO SEE THAT
UM, AND I'LL BE GLAD TO SHOW YOU WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON.
IF, UH, I WILL TELL YOU THAT IF WE GET TO 75%, WE'RE MAKING ABOUT A 5% MARGIN.
SO IT'S A, FOR US TO BE ROLLING IN DOUGH, I'M, I'M NOT SURE I CAN GET THERE WITH FIBER IN A RURAL AREA.
WE WILL NOT COME BACK AND ASK FOR MORE MONEY.
WE WILL NOT, UM, I TRUST OUR PROJECTIONS, UH, BASED ON OUR, OUR HISTORY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S SHORT.
UM, AND, AND WE'RE WILLING TO TAKE THAT RISK.
AND OUR BANKERS, WHO I ALSO HAVE TO KEEP HAPPY, ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THESE.
UH, THEY'VE GOTTEN COMFORTABLE WITH THEM.
THEY DIDN'T START VERY COMFORTABLE, BUT WE'RE THERE
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I REALLY JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ASK IS AND THEN WHAT VARIABILITY AROUND THAT ASK, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT MIGHT TRIGGER THINGS.
SO, UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED FOR THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO SIGN A LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE 2024 VATI BROADBAND GRANT APPLICATION, WHICH IS DUE ON DECEMBER 19TH, 2023.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.
ALRIGHT, WELL, UH, I'LL BE GLAD TO COME BACK IN EARLY PART OF THE YEAR AND, AND REVIEW THIS WITH THE NEW BOARD.
UH, THE ONE OTHER THING I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED IS THE EARLIEST THIS WILL BE ANNOUNCED IS PROBABLY NEXT APRIL.
AND BY THE TIME THEY SIGN CONTRACTS, IT'LL BE THE END OF SUMMER.
UM, BUT WE'RE GONNA ASK TO, UH, BUILD IT IN 18 TO 24 MONTHS SO THAT IT'LL OVERLAP KIND OF THE PROJECT WE ALREADY HAVE GOING ON.
THE ONE THING I DID WANNA BE COGNIZANT OF IS BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK THERE ARE SOME INTERESTING REASONS WHY FOLKS ARE RED DOTS IS THAT THIS WOULDN'T DELAY THOSE IN THE PREVIOUS GRANTS THAT HAVE NOTHING AT THIS TIME.
LIKE THIS, THEY SHOULD BE THE PRIORITY.
AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK FULL SPEED EVERY DAY TO GET PEOPLE CONNECTED AS FAST AS WE CAN.
UM, MR. WOOD, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU.
I THINK YOU ARE, ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF WHAT THIS BOARD, UM, MR. ALVEZ WAS A BIG PART OF IT WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO SEARCH FOR BROADBAND SOLUTIONS, HOW MANY COMPANIES WE WENT THROUGH, HOW MANY POSSIBILITIES.
AND I PERSONALLY FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE BEST PARTNERSHIP GOLAND COUNTY COULD EVER POSSIBLY WISH FOR.
UH, YOU'RE AN AWESOME COMPANY, UH, EASY TO WORK WITH.
YOU'RE PRODUCING NOT AS FAST AS EVERYBODY WANTS.
BUT, UM, THE FOLKS THAT DO HAVE THE SERVICE ARE OVER THE MOON ABOUT IT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU.
THE LAST PART OF OUR NEW BUSINESS IS OUR FIRST QUARTER GENERAL FUND PROJECTION, MS. CAVE.
[3. FY2024 First Quarter General Fund Projection]
GOOD AFTERNOON.I AM COMING TO YOU WITH THE FIRST QUARTER PROJECTIONS, WHICH COVER THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH.
UM, I DID TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THIS WAS SUBMITTED.
SOME THINGS WE, WE KNEW AFTER THAT.
UM, I'M PROJECTING THAT WE BRING IN ABOUT $700,000 HIGHER THAN WE BUDGETED IN TOTAL REVENUES.
AND THAT IS PRIMARILY DUE TO, UM, AN INCREASE IN REAL ESTATE TAXES AND AN INCREASE IN INTEREST.
OUR ASSESSOR, WHEN WE'RE PREPARING FOR THE FY 25 BUDGET HAS PROVIDED US WITH SOME PRELIMINARY ASSESSMENT FIGURES THAT ARE ADDRESSED, WELL, I WOULDN'T SAY DRASTICALLY, BUT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN, UM, THE FIGURES WE USE TO BUDGET FOR THE SECOND HALF OF COLLECTIONS.
SO THAT WILL HELP US ON OUR REVENUES AND OUR INTEREST.
UM, WHILE WE INCREASED IT FOR OUR FY 24 BUDGET, WE, IT'S, IT WAS STILL ON THE MORE CONSERVATIVE SIDE AND WE'RE STILL SEEING A STRONG INTEREST RATE COMING IN.
SO THAT'LL CONTRIBUTE TO HIGHER REVENUES AS WELL ON THE EXPENSES.
UM, I'M PROJECTING THAT DEPARTMENTS WILL TURN IN AROUND A MILLION DOLLARS AND THAT'S BASED ON, UM, CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES.
UM, LOOKING AT, UM, I'M LOOKING AT VACANCIES THAT WE HAVE UP TO THIS POINT OR ABOUT A MONTH AGO AND THE PRIOR YEAR THREE TREND,
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UH, THREE YEAR TREND OF WHAT DEPARTMENTS TYPICALLY TURN IN.UM, BUT I WILL SAY WHEN I COME BACK IN FEBRUARY, ALL OF THIS WILL BE A LOT CLEARER BECAUSE OUR TAXES WILL HAVE COME IN.
UM, THERE WAS A VERY LONG LINE ALL DAY OUTSIDE THE TREASURER'S OFFICE TODAY, SO WE'LL HAVE A A LOT CLOSER FIGURE THERE.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT AN OPERATING SURPLUS OF ABOUT 11 MILLION, WELL, SIX $10.7 MILLION.
AND THEN AFTER OUR TRANSFERS OUT TO COVER OUR CIP PROJECTS AND OUR CHILDREN'S SERVICES, UM, I'M LOOKING AT JUST A, RIGHT NOW, $200,000 RETURN TO SURPLUS.
SO PRETTY CONSERVATIVE LIKE WE LIKE TO DO BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN TAKE THOSE NOW.
YOUR, YOUR TURN, YOUR, UM, MILLION DOLLARS THAT YOU SAID TURN BACK THAT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S JUST COUNTY DEPARTMENTS, THAT'S NOT SCHOOLS, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SCHOOLS IS, SCHOOLS TURN BACK IS INCLUDED IN THAT FOR 351,000.
BUT YEAH, THAT'S ALL DEPARTMENTS AND SCHOOLS COMBINED.
UM, MS. GABE, I HAVE A QUESTION REAL QUICK.
I KNOW IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME WHEN WE SAY THE THE INCREASE IS DUE TO REAL ESTATE AND INTEREST, WHAT IT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO ME IS HOW MUCH IS NEW REAL ESTATE VERSUS HOW MUCH IS AN INCREASE IN ASSESSMENTS.
I DO HAVE THAT, BUT NOT WITH ME TODAY.
WE'RE APPROVING THESE PROJECTS, YOU KNOW, TO INCREASE REVENUES AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE LOOPS IN A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.
BUT WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THE OUR, OF OUR DECISIONS HAPPENING ON THE REVENUES? THAT'D BE GREAT.
ANYONE ELSE? WELL, ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
AND I WILL, I WILL ALSO ADD THANK YOU TO THE THREE OF YOU LEAVING THE BOARD.
I, I HONESTLY, I CAME FROM A DIFFERENT COUNTY AND COMING HERE TO WORK IN GOOCHLAND HAS BEEN PRETTY AWESOME.
THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT BOARD AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE THREE OF YOU AND THE OTHER TWO
ALRIGHT, I THINK THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR OUR NEW PRESENTATION, SO WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE THIS LOVE FEST AT SIX O'CLOCK AFTER OUR DINNER BREAK.
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WELCOME.I, IT IS MY PLEASURE TO CALL BACK TO ORDER THE GLAND COUNTY DECEM BORDER SUPERVISOR'S DECEMBER 5TH MEETING.
UM, HAVE A GREAT PACKED AGENDA FOR SOME OF US WHO'S THIS WILL BE OUR, OUR LAST TIME UP ON THIS DAY.
UH, SO WE HAVE A LOT TO GET THROUGH.
JUST WANNA LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THERE WAS AN ACTION TAKEN EARLIER IN THE DAY TO, UH, REORDER OUR PRESENTATIONS FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
ITEM NUMBER 10, I BELIEVE IT IS, WILL NOW BE OUR FIRST ITEM AND EVERYTHING WILL SHIFT DOWN ONE.
SO ITEM 10, THE AMENDMENT OF RESORTING ORDINANCE OF SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE TO APPROVE ACCESS MANAGEMENT WILL BE THE FIRST ITEM THAT WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, UH, SO WHAT WE'RE, IN CASE YOU DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE GOING THROUGH IS, UH, VERY EXCITED TO HAVE, UH, THE FOLKS FROM TROOP SEVEN 10 HERE, UH, THE, THE, UH, WE HAD SOME AMAZING YOUNG FOLKS THAT, UH, HAVE EARNED THEIR RANK OF EAGLE AND WE WANNA RECOGNIZE 'EM AS WELL AS THE TROOP FOR A, A SIGNIFICANT MILESTONE FOR GLAND COUNTY.
UH, SO WE, WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD, WHICH IS A TIME FOR PEOPLE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ANYTHING THAT'S NOT ON OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
AND THEN THE SLATE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO WITH THAT, UM, MR. CARPENTER, I'M GONNA ASK FOR YOUR HELP.
I'M GONNA, I'D LOVE THE, THIS THE EAGLES TO MEET ME DOWN.
[XV. Presentations of Resolution of Recognition]
MOVED ADAM, TIM TO ITEM ONE.NO ITEM THAT IS HEARING ITEM ONE, THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO IF YOU COULD HELP ME BY, UH, GOING THROUGH THE RESOLUTION, IF THE EAGLES COULD MEET ME DOWN FRONT HERE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO IF EAGLES GOT AUGUST KOWALSKI, LUCA GARDNER, RAINER SCHMITZ, AND NE WEZEL CAN COME FORWARD.
AUGUST AND LUKE AND, OKAY, GREAT.
THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA WAS INCORPORATED 113 YEARS AGO WITH THE GOAL OF BUILDING CHARACTER, PROVIDING CITIZEN CITIZENSHIP TRAINING AND PROMOTING PHYSICAL FITNESS IN AMERICA'S YOUTH.
ONE OF THE WAYS THAT SCOUTING ACCOMPLISHES THIS IS BY HOLDING SCOUTS ACCOUNTABLE TO THE 12 POINTS OF THE SCOUT LAW.
THOSE WHO KNOW IT KNOW THAT A SCOUT IS TRUSTWORTHY, LOYAL, HELPFUL, FRIENDLY, COURTEOUS, KIND, OBEDIENT, CHEERFUL, THRIFTY, BRAVE, CLEAN, AND REVERENT.
TONIGHT WE RECOGNIZE FOUR SCOUTS THAT HAVE EARNED THE RANK OF EAGLE SCOUT, THE HIGHEST HONOR THAT A SCOUT CAN ATTAIN AND ONE ACCOMPLISHED BY LESS THAN 6% OF ALL SCOUTS.
A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE PROCESS INVOLVED IN EARNING THE RANK OF EAGLE IS A COMPLETION OF AN EAGLE SCOUT PROJECT.
THIS PROJECT REQUIRES A SCOUT TO DISPLAY LEADERSHIP AND ORGANIZATIONAL SKILLS, WHILE PROVIDING A SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY BENEFIT FROM THE PROJECT.
THE SCOUTS AND THEIR PROJECTS ARE AS FOLLOWS.
EAGLE SCOUT AUGUST KOWALSKI LED A TEAM THAT BUILT A PRIVACY FENCE FOR TRINITY EVANGELICAL LUTHERAN CHURCH AND PRESCHOOL AND EARNED AT LEAST 25 MERIT BADGES.
EAGLE SCOUT LUCA GARDNER LED A TEAM THAT BUILT DOGHOUSES FOR GLAND ANIMAL SHELTER TO MAKE AVAILABLE TO GLAND FAMILIES IN NEED AND EARNED AT LEAST 22 MERIT BADGES.
EAGLE SCOUT RAINER SCHMITZ LED A TEAM TO BUILD A NEW SOFTBALL BATTING CAGE FOR GLAND HIGH SCHOOL EARNED AT LEAST 22 MERIT BADGES AND THEN NOT HERE NOT, BUT EAGLE SCOTT NOAH WEELL LED A TEAM TO BUILD A SHED FOR GUCH AND CARES AND EARN 26 MERIT BADGES.
WELL, CONGRATULATIONS GENTLEMEN.
THIS IS A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT.
AND NOW IT'S MY HONOR, IF WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE, UM, AND WE WILL OFFICIALLY APPROVE THESE RESOLUTIONS, ACKNOWLEDGING THIS GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENT.
SO, BOARD, CAN I PLEASE GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING EVIL SCOUT AUGUST KOWALSKI IF I GET SO MOVED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO A PHOTO WALK.
BOARD, CAN I GET A RESOLUTION, UH, RECOGNIZING THE 97TH EAGLE SCOUT LUCA GARDNER.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED THE RESOLUTION OF RECOGNITION FOR 97TH EAGLE SCOUT LUCA GARDNER.
CAN I, CAN I GET A MOTION TO, UH, RECOGNIZE THE 98TH, THE EAGLE OF TROOPER 0.07, EAGLE SCOUT, RAINER SCHMITZ.
MR. PETERSON, ALL THOSE IN FAVORS? AYE.
AND THEN BOARD, CAN I GET A RESOLUTION TO RECOGNIZE THE HUNDREDTH EAGLE SCOUT NOAH WEELL? SO MOVED.
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SECOND.OPPOSED? UM, WE WANTED TO GIVE EACH OF YOU ONE OF THESE AS A LITTLE TOKEN OF OUR THANK, UH, APPRECIATION.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER, YOU DON'T WANNA LOOK AT 'EM.
SO THESE ARE CHALLENGE COINS, UM, WHEN FOLKS DO THINGS THAT ARE WORTH RECOGNIZING AND, UM, IT'S A WAY TO HONOR FOLKS THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE COUNTY IN MANY WAYS.
SO WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL, UH, TAKE THESE AND, UM, ENJOY THOSE AS YOU GO OFF TO DO GREAT AND GREAT THINGS AS, UH, AS YOU GO FORWARD.
SO WE GET A GOOD PICTURE OVER HERE.
WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL, UH, RESOLUTION, UH, MR. CARPENTER, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD RESOLUTION OF RECOGNITION BY THE UCHIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HONORING BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA, TROOPS SEVEN 10 ON THE OCCASION OF ITS 100TH EAGLE SCOUT.
WHEREAS THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA WAS INCORPORATED BY CHICAGO PUBLISHER WILLIAM BOYCE ON FEBRUARY 8TH, 1910.
IT WAS CHARTERED BY CONGRESS IN 1916.
AND WHEREAS THE PURPOSE OF THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA IS TO BUILD CHARACTER, SELF-RELIANCE, ETHICAL DECISION MAKING, PROVIDE CITIZENSHIP TRAINING AND PROMOTE PHYSICAL FITNESS.
AND WHEREAS BY 1912 SCOUTS WERE INVOLVED, ENROLLED IN EVERY STATE AND RE, THE FIRST EAGLE SCOUT AWARD WAS EARNED IN 1912.
AND NEARLY 2.8 MILLION YOUTH HAVE EARNED THE EAGLE SCOUT AWARD SINCE, WHEREAS ONLY 6% OF ALL SCOUTS EVER RECEIVED THE RANK OF EAGLE.
AND WHEREAS BECOMING AN EAGLE SCOUT IS A VALUABLE EXPERIENCE THAT WILL LEAD TO MANY BENEFITS FOR THE RECIPIENT, INCLUDING LIFELONG FRIENDSHIPS, INCREASED CONFIDENCE AND LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE.
AND WHEREAS EACH INDIVIDUAL SCOUT MUST COMMIT A MISSION OF SERVICE, WHICH INCLUDES THE COMPLETION OF A PROJECT OF SIGNIFICANT COMMUNITY BENEFIT.
AND WHEREAS THE RANK OF EAGLE IS ATTAINED AS A RESULT OF THE COMMITMENT OF ITS ADULT VOLUNTEER LEADERS WHO DEDICATE THEIR TIME AND TALENT TO SERVE YOUNG PEOPLE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES THROUGH RELIGIOUS, CIVIC, AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS CHARTERED BY THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA.
NOW, THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE UCHIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WISHES TO RECOGNIZE AND APPLAUD THE EFFORTS OF TROOP SEVEN 10 ON INSTALLING ITS 100TH EAGLE SCOUT AND OUTSTANDING ACHIEVEMENT.
YEAH, LET'S GIVE IT UP FOR THE TROOP BOARD.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION? UM, SO MOVED, SECONDED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE RESOLUTION, RECOGNITION OF THE GUCCI COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISOR AMERICA SEVEN 10, SAY AYE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? I WOULD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
THANK YOU NOAH, FOR COMING TONIGHT.
IT IS A, A SPECIAL MOMENT THAT WE'RE HAVING ON SUNDAY WHEN THIS PAST YEAR WE HIT, UM, AND I SHOULD SAY, SORRY, I'M DAN GARDNER, COMMITTEE CHAIR FOR SCOUTS, AND I'M HERE WITH, UH, JIM DICK, WHO IS OUR SCOUTMASTER FOR A, A LONG WHILE AND VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.
UM, BUT IT IS THIS YEAR THAT WE HIT 100.
IT WAS QUITE AMAZING LAST YEAR IN THE 2022, UH, WE PUT IN THE PAPER A RECORD SETTING NUMBER OF EAGLES IN ONE YEAR, AND THEN THIS YEAR WE HAD SEVERAL MORE, SOME OF WHICH ARE HERE TONIGHT.
UM, WE THEREFORE, ON THIS COURT OF HONOR THAT IS COMING UP ON SUNDAY, WE HAVE PUT BEEN PUTTING IT OUT THERE TO INVITE AS MANY OF THE HUNDRED EAGLES BACK SINCE 1983.
AND I GOT TO SPEAK, UM, WITH BUCK BERRY HILL, WHO SPOKE VERY HIGHLY OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE SCHOOLS HE WAS NAMING, HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS THAT THIS COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER, THE SCHOOLS CHARTERING THE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT HE GAVE STORIES OF WORKING, UH, WITH TOASTMASTERS IN PUBLIC SPEAKING AND HAVING THEM, THE BOYS COME BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND HOW AMAZING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WAS IN ORDER TO EXPECT HIGH THINGS OUT OF THE GENTLEMAN, BUT THEN ALSO REALLY STAND BEHIND THEM AND HELP SUPPORT IT AS A COMMUNITY.
BACK IN 1983 WHEN I SPOKE TO HIM, HE NOW LIVES DOWN IN FLORIDA.
HE, HE WAS GETTING CHOKED UP OVER THE STORIES AND WE'RE GONNA SHARE A COUPLE OF THOSE AUDIO CLIPS ON, UM, ON SUNDAY AT THREE O'CLOCK WHEN WE INVITE, I THINK 29 OF THE 100 EAGLES ARE ABLE TO MAKE IT AND BE THERE WITH US.
SUPER EXCITED TO CELEBRATE THAT.
AND AGAIN, I CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH AS A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE SCHOOLS, ALL THOSE THAT IT HAS TAKEN TO SUPPORT THESE 100 EAGLE MEN AND NOW WOMEN.
WE HAVE SEVERAL WOMEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH SCOUTING AND, UH, WE JUST APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT.
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RIGHT HERE IS GOOD.OKAY, AT THIS POINT, NOW, AFTER THAT, UM, EXCELLENT, UH, EXCELLENT RECOGNITION.
LET'S, UH, OPEN OUR CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
AGAIN, THIS IS FOR, UH, I, FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE
[XVI. Citizen Comment]
TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ON ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON OUR AGENDA.PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND PLEASE TRY TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.
I'LL OPEN THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD RESOLUTION.
ALRIGHT, LISA, DOES THAT KIND OF AGAINST MY TIME? NO.
JONATHAN LY 1521 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
UM, IF I HAD KNOWN THERE WAS GONNA BE THIS SIZE CROWD, I'D GIVE MY AGRICULTURE REPORT AT SIX O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AT TWO.
BUT I, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT SAY THANK YOU TO THIS BOARD.
UM, PARTICULARLY MR. LUMPKINS, MS. LAS COLLETTE, AND MR. PETERSON.
UH, YOU FOLKS HAVE SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THOSE OF US WHO WILL BE JOINING THE BOARD.
UH, AND, UH, IT, IT, IT JUST IS DISAPPOINTING THAT THERE CAN'T BE MORE OF US UP THERE TO TAKE THE LEADERSHIP AND THE MENTORING THAT YOU FOLKS HAVE PROVIDED THE COUNTY.
UH, I'M GOING TO MISS BEING ABLE TO SHARE AGRICULTURAL INFORMATION WITH YOU.
IF YOU FEEL A NEED FOR IT, I CAN LEAVE YOU MY PHONE NUMBER.
BUT YOU REALLY HAVE DONE TREMENDOUS THINGS FOR THIS COUNTY AND, UH, I, I APPRECIATE MS. LAS COLLETTE'S.
ADVICE TO ME IS DON'T SCREW IT UP.
UH, SO
I THINK IT'S BEEN RECOGNIZED, UH, AS MR. PETERSON SAID.
I DON'T HAVE ANY WAREHOUSES HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU, BUT, UH, REALLY WHAT YOU FOLKS HAVE ACCOMPLISHED IS, IS, UH, RECOGNIZED AS, AS REALLY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COUNTY.
UH, AND I STILL WOULD WELCOME ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME TO A MONICA AND DIRECT, UH, BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING.
WE, WE ALWAYS, UH, WELCOME VISITORS.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE CITIZEN COUNT PERIOD.
ALL FOLKS, UH, MOVING INTO OUR LONG LIST OF
[XVII. Public Hearings]
PUBLIC HEARINGS, AND AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE'LL START WITH THE 10TH ONE IN OUR PACKET.UH, BUT, BUT WE WILL GO THROUGH THAT TONIGHT.
SO I THINK, UH, MR. CASH, YOU'RE UP.
MAKE SURE I ANNOUNCE MY PRESENCE WITH THAT
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER.
I AM, UH, RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE FIRST ITEM, UM, THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT HAS BEEN MOVED FORWARD.
UM, IS A ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
UM, S AT THIS POINT HAD, WOULD
[10. Countywide - ZOA-2023-00003 Amendment to Zoning Ordinance (County Code Chapter 15) and Amendment to Subdivision Ordinance (County Code Appendix B) to improve access management and update road standards]
LIKE TO, UM, ASK THE BOARD THAT WE DEFER THIS ITEM, UM, FOR 60 DAYS.UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE WERE REALLY HOPING TO BRING FORWARD BEFORE THIS BOARD.
I KNOW YOUR INTEREST, NOT ONLY, UM, IN IMPROVING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, OUR PUBLIC ROADS, BUT ALSO IMPROVING PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING HARD WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO TRY TO BRING FORWARD, UM, UPDATES RIGHT UP UNTIL I WOULD SAY THIS MORNING.
UM, BUT I THINK WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE ABSORBS, UM, WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT WHEN IT COMES FORWARD TO THIS NEXT BOARD OR THOSE WHO YOU ARE STILL, UM, SERVING AS YOU GO FORWARD.
UM, DISAPPOINTED, UM, IN THAT I WISH WE COULD HAVE GOT IT DONE AND BE PREPARED AND WE FEEL LIKE EVERYBODY IS VERSED IN IT AND COMFORTABLE, BUT STAFF WOULD REQUEST THAT WE DEFER THIS FIRST 60 DAYS.
MR. LUKINS, UH, IS IT READY TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION? YES.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU.
UH, I MOVE THAT THE UCHIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DEFER THIS, UM, MATTER TO OUR FEBRUARY, 2024 HEARING RE REGULAR MEETING.
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BADS.ANY DISCUSSION? UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I, I, I APPRECIATE STAFF.
WHERE ARE YOU GUYS? THE BULLPEN UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WHEN WE TACKLE THESE THINGS, AND I APPRECIATE THE WILLINGNESS TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND TO ENSURE THAT WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO AVOID UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
I KNOW THIS IS A, A HEAVY LIFT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BRINGING IT UP IN ABOUT 60 DAYS.
SEEING NO OTHER REQUESTS FOR COMMENTS, ROLL CALL VOTE MS. LUMPKINS.
OKAY, NOW BACK TO OUR REGULAR PROGRAM ALREADY IN PROGRESS.
SO NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL
[1. Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2024 Goochland County Budget by budgeting and appropriating $589,058 in the Capital Improvement Fund for the Fairground Road Extension projectt]
YEAR 2024 COUNTY BUDGET.UM, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MS. CAPE.
SO WHILE TYPICALLY WE CAN DO BUDGET AMENDMENTS, UM, AS A NON-FORMAL NO PUBLIC HEARING REQUIRED, I WANTED TO POINT OUT THE REASON WE'RE UP HERE TONIGHT FOR THREE SEPARATE PUBLIC HEARINGS IS BECAUSE, UM, BY CODE, UM, VIRGINIA LAW STATES THAT IF WE ARE GOING TO AMEND OUR ADOPTED BUDGET BY MORE THAN 1% OF TOTAL EXPENDITURES, WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THOSE AMENDMENTS.
UM, OUR ADOPTED BUDGET IS 1.4 MILLION AND THESE THREE TOTAL 2.3 MILLION TONIGHT, WHICH DOES EXCEED THAT LIMIT.
I'M GONNA, UM, DESCRIBE THE FIRST WE CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING COME BACK FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THE THIRD, SO OUR FIRST AMENDMENT IS FOR $589,058.
UM, THIS IS TO BE FUNDED THROUGH GENERAL FUND ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
THIS IS A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT RELATED TO FAIRGROUND ROAD EXTENSION.
UM, THIS IS A PROJECT WE'VE BEEN FUNDING FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AT THIS POINT.
UM, ORIGINALLY THE SIDEWALK WAS PROPOSED ON ONE SIDE, BUT AS A RECOMMENDATION FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, ATTEMPT TO ATTRACT POTENTIAL BUSINESSES AND ENSURE A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY FACILITY, WE'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND THAT TO SIDEWALK ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, THAT'LL BRING GLAND'S TOTAL LOCAL COMMITMENT TO 5.9 MILLION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. CAVE AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE, UH, AMENDING THIS APPROPRIATION? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I FIGURED THIS WOULD BE QUICK.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE GOSEY COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THIS, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND BUDGET AMENDMENT.
BUDGET AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO IS ANOTHER TRANSPORTATION RELATED PROJECT.
[2. Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2024 Goochland County Budget by budgeting and appropriating $774,860 in the County Capital Improvement Fund for the Hockett Road Realignment project]
HOCKET ROAD REALIGNMENT.THIS CAN BE TOTALLY FUNDED BY PROFFERS DEDICATED TO THE EAST END ROAD PROJECTS.
UM, THIS IS JUST BASICALLY THE INITIAL PROJECTION OF COST HAS INCREASED DUE TO INFLATION AND MARKET UNIT PRICES, JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WE'RE SEEING.
UM, SO WE'RE ASKING THE BOARD FOR 774,860 TO COME FROM PROFFERS TO COVER THE SHORTAGE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. CAVE? OKAY.
ALRIGHT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, MR. MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2023 UCHIN COUNTY BUDGET BY BUDGETING AND APPROPRIATING $774,860 IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND FOR THE HOCK ROAD REALIGNMENT PROJECT.
UM, I DID HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THIS PROJECT, UH, MR. GOEN, MR. COLLIN
JUST WANTED TO SEE IF YOU CAN CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR ME.
UM, UH, LAST YEAR, UH, SOME CITIZENS BROUGHT UP CONCERNS WITH THE POTENTIAL, SORT OF THE, A
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DRAWING GOT OUT OF A, A SIGNAL THAT MAY, UH, THAT WAS BEING PROPOSED TO BE DELETED IN A RIGHT TURN ONLY.CAN YOU GIVE US ANY UPDATE ON CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD REGARDING THAT? SO, YEAH, AS PART OF THE ORIGINAL FUNDING APPLICATION FOR THIS PROJECT, IT WAS INITIALLY THOUGHT THAT THAT SIGNAL WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED THROUGH THE FURTHER ANALYSIS OF THAT SIGNAL.
IT'S CURRENTLY ANTICIPATED THAT SIGNAL WILL REMAIN AS IS IN THE EXISTING CONDITION TODAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ROLL CALL.
OUR LAST AMENDMENT REQUEST IS FOR OUR FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE HAVE A SANDY HOOK FIRE STATION, UM, OPERATING RIGHT NOW AT THE, UM, INTERSECTION OF WHITEHALL ROAD AND DOGTOWN ROAD.
IT'S PROVING TO BE EXTREMELY VALUABLE.
IT'S CUTTING DOWN ON RESPONSE TIMES DRASTICALLY.
UM, WE'VE BEEN FUNDING IT IN THIS BUDGET EVEN THOUGH WE DID NOT BUDGET FUNDS FOR IT, BECAUSE IT'S A HIGH NEED.
UM, AND WE ARE LOOKING TO EVENTUALLY BUILD A PERMANENT FIRE STATION IN
[3. Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2024 Goochland County Budget by budgeting and appropriating $1,000,000 in the County Capital Improvement Fund for site improvements for the future Sandy Hook Fire Station]
THAT AREA.BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE ARE HOPING THAT YOU'LL GRANT US A MILLION DOLLARS FROM GENERAL FUND ASSIGNED, ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE TO, UM, CONSTRUCT A 40 BY 60 METAL BUILDING, UM, TO HOLD A FIRE ENGINE, AN AMBULANCE, AND SOME LOGISTICS SUPPLY.
UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WON'T BE REMOVED.
WHEN WE FINALLY DO GET AROUND TO BUILDING THE FIRE STATION, IT'LL BE OPERATING AT THE REAR OF THE SITE.
UM, WE WILL CONTINUE THE USE IN THE FUTURE.
SO, UM, THE COUNTY IS ALSO WORKING WITH TIMMONS GROUP TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT FLOWS TOGETHER NICELY FOR FUTURE PLANNING.
WHAT IS THE NATURE OF THE ASI EXISTING ASSIGNMENT ON THIS MONEY CAPITAL PROJECTS IN GENERAL? YES.
NOT, NOT, WE JUST PUT ABOUT 9 MILLION TOWARDS GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS.
SO IT'S COMING FROM THAT 9 MILLION IN GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS, CORRECT? YES.
ANYBODY ELSE? UM, ANY, ANY IDEA OF THE USEFUL LIFE OF THIS PARTICULAR STRUCTURE? DOES IT, DOES IT COINCIDE WITH THE LARGER PROJECT AND, AND, UH, IF I'M IN MS. VADERS, THE SIMMONS GROUP IS DESIGNING IT TO BE PART OF THE LARGER PROJECT.
SO IT'LL BE THE FIRST CONSTRUCTED, BUT IT'LL BE PART OF AN OVERALL COMPLEX THERE OF A FIRE STATION.
THIS BUILDING WILL COMPLEMENT NOT JUST THE STATION, BUT IN FUTURE YEARS WHEN THE STATION'S BUILT, IT CAN BE USED TO SERVE THE ENTIRE NEEDS OF THE DISTRICT.
SEEING NONE, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, AS THIS IN MY IS IN MY DISTRICT, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED RESOLUTION AMENDING FISCAL YEAR 2024 LUIN COUNTY BUDGET BY BUDGETING APPROPRIATELY PLEAING $1 MILLION IN THE COUNTY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND FOR SITE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE FUTURE.
ANY DISCUSSION? I'LL WRESTLE YOU FOR IT.
MR. PETERSON, I'M SORRY, I WAS LAUGHING AT YOU.
AND THANK YOU CHIEF FERGUSON FOR OUT OUTSIDE THE BOX THINKING WHEN THE, WHEN THE ROUNDABOUT GOT CLOSED DOWN AND WE ADDED FOUR TO FIVE MINUTES TO RESPONSE TIMES ARE ALREADY IN THE 12 MINUTE RANGE, UM, AND TO AND TO THE STAFF THAT IS, IS WORKING THERE OVERTIME, HOURS TO STAFF THAT AND THE, THE RESPONSE TIMES THAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, HAVE BEEN JUST AMAZING.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TEAM THINKING, UM, UH, STRATEGICALLY AROUND THAT.
MOVING RIGHT ALONG OUR FOURTH SLASH FISH CASE.
AND I THINK THIS IS MS. SHERRY.
[4. District 3 - CU-2023-00015 Application by Robin and Austin Lee requesting renewal of conditional use permit (CUP) CU-2018-00006 for a public assembly place to operate a wedding and event venue and for a parking waiver on a 2-acre portion of 56.665 acres at 2192 Sheppard Town Road on Tax Map 43-14-0-A-0. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 in accordance with Sec. 15-290. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area]
IT IS MY TURN CORRECT.THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I WILL BE PRESENTING THE NEXT FOUR CASES FOR A PUBLIC HEARING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THE FIRST CASE IS A REQUEST FOR A RENEWAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PUBLIC PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE FOR A WEDDING AND EVENT CENTER.
UH, SPECIFICALLY RUNNING MARE, WHICH IS LOCATED ON SHEPHERD TOWN ROAD.
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THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST EAST OF THE CENTER, UM, COURTHOUSE VILLAGE.AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL, UH, SHEPHERD TOWN ROAD RUNS, UH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE, UH, FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, WHAT IS UNIQUE IS THAT THERE IS A TWO ACRE LOT, UM, IN THE MIDDLE OF, NOT IN THE MIDDLE, BUT WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THIS IS THE, UM, THE DWELLING WHERE THE APPLICANTS ACTUALLY RESIDE.
SO IT IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE CUP CONDITIONS.
UM, IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE LOTS OF LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL AND FARMLAND.
SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED A TWO AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, AND THE, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA, UH, FOR BOTH, UH, THE ZONING AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE, UM, ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE EVENT CENTER VERSUS WHAT'S NOT, UM, PART OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
I DID MENTION, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL PARCEL.
UM, AS PART OF THE EVENT RELATED ACTIVITIES, THE CEP ACTIVITIES, THERE ARE TWO BARNS.
ONES THAT IS 2,400 SQUARE FEET AND ONE THAT'S 1200 SQUARE FEET.
THERE IS A PARKING AREA, UH, THAT HAS 72 SPACES AND THEN A POND.
UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY OF THIS CASE.
UM, BACK IN 2018, IT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED.
THEY ARE RECOMMENDING NO CUP CHANGES TO, UM, THEIR ACTIVITIES.
HOWEVER, THEY DID MAKE A REQUEST TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, FOR A 15 YEAR REMU RENEWAL AS OPPOSED TO THE TRADITIONAL 10 YEAR RENEWAL THAT YOU WOULD GET ON YOUR, UH, FIRST TIME GETTING RENEWED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OF THIS TYPE.
SO HERE IS, UH, KIND OF WHAT I DESCRIBED ON THE LAST SLIDE IN THAT YELLOW AREA IS WHERE A MAJORITY OF THE, UM, EVENT ACTIVITIES OCCUR, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PARKING.
AND THIS IS A BLOW UP OF, UM, THAT AREA.
YOU SEE THE LITTLE, UH, TWO ACRE PARCEL WITH THE RED, AGAIN, NOT SUBJECT TO THE CEP.
UH, THERE'S THE WEDDING AREA THAT HAS THE VIEW OF THE, THE WATER.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE TWO HORSE BARNS.
THE PARKING IS DOWN, UM, ON THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE SCREEN, AND THAT IS, UM, OR THE BOTTOM PART OF THE SCREEN THAT IS A FORMER HORSE PADDOCK THAT THEY, UM, HAVE GRAVELED AND USED FOR PARKING.
AND THIS IS A POD, UM, THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE SITE, UM, WHEN IT ORIGINALLY CAME THROUGH.
IT BASICALLY SHOWS THE SAME THING, THE PARKING, THE ACTIVITY, THE, UM, AND THE, UM, UH, PARCEL WHERE THE APPLICANTS LIVE.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THIS PARTICULAR, UM, REQUEST.
CURRENTLY THEY HAVE MOST OF THEIR ACTIVITIES TAKE PLACE EITHER OUTDOORS OR WITHIN THE BARNS.
UM, THEY CAN HAVE NO MORE THAN 200 PEOPLE AT ANY ONE EVENT.
UM, THEY'RE LIMITED TO ONE EVENT A WEEKEND.
HOWEVER, UM, THEY CAN HAVE A, LIKE A, A ACCESSORY EVENT, UH, UH, THAT HAS, UH, IS RELATED TO THE LARGE EVENT.
IT CAN ONLY BE TWO HOURS OR LESS.
THE INTENT IS SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE A REHEARSAL DINNER PERHAPS PRIOR TO A WEDDING THE NEXT DAY OR A WEDDING FOLLOWED BY A BRUNCH, UM, AFTERWARDS, ALL WITH THE SAME USER, TWO HOUR LIMIT.
UM, THEY DO HAVE, UM, HOURS OF OPERATION, SO THEY'RE ALLOWED TO OPERATE NOON TO 10 30 ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY, NINE TO NINE TO 10 30 WITH, UH, MUSIC CEASING AT, UH, OR AMPLIFIED SOUND CEASING AT 10 O'CLOCK, UH, SUNDAY, 11 TO 9:00 PM AND NO EVENTS MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
UM, UH, THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW BUILDINGS.
THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY ACTIVITIES TO CHANGE WITH THE CUP, HOWEVER, THEY ARE, UM, REQUESTING THE RENEWAL DATE TO GO TO 15 YEARS.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, THIS TYPE OF USE IS CONSIDERED CONSISTENT WITH, GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE CONDITIONS THAT REGULATE THE IMPACT THAT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
THERE IS, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
FIVE PEOPLE ATTENDED, UH, MEANING, UH, THE ATTENDEES WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE RENEWAL.
AND IN FACT, WE DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THIS APPLICATION IN NOVEMBER.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, THIS WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH A FIVE OH VOTE.
THEY DID VOTE, UM, WITH THE REQUEST FOR THE, THE 15 YEARS.
SO THAT WAS A REVISION, THAT WAS AN AMENDMENT THAT WAS MADE, UM, TO, UH, THEIR REQUEST.
UM, AND NOBODY SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I HAVE SUMMARIZED THE CONDITIONS.
UM, ESSENTIALLY THERE'S NO, UH, SUBSTANTIVE CHANGE TO THE CONDITIONS.
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IN 2018 WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED.SO WE HAVE BROUGHT THEM UP TO OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS.
BUT, SO ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE ALLOWED, UH, NUMBER ONE, ALLOWED TO, UH, HAVE A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE.
UM, THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, THEY NEED TO MAINTAIN ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UH, WERE MADE BASED ON THAT PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THEY DID GET A PARKING WAIVER.
UM, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 50 SPACES, AS I MENTIONED IN THE, UM, IN THE PRESENTATION THEY HAVE 72, BUT THEY DID GET A WAIVER FOR AN ORDER TO HAVE IT, UM, GRAVELED AND NOT PAVED.
UH, STAFF USUALLY SUPPORTS THAT.
SO IT DOES, UH, RETAIN SOME OF THE RURAL INTEGRITY OF, UM, OF THE AREA.
UH, NO PARKING ON SHEPHERD TOWN ROAD, AND THEY MUST, UH, PUT UP SIGNS WHICH THEY HAVE.
UM, AND THEN ANY INTERNAL ROAD OR THE INTERNAL ROAD MUST, UH, BE CONSISTENT WHAT WAS SHOWN ON THE POD AS WELL AS MAINTAIN FOR FIRE ACCESS.
THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE SIGN NO MORE THAN 12 SQUARE FEET IN AREA.
ANY LIGHTING, UH, WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A, UM, LIGHTING PLAN AND WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT AS OUR ORDINANCE DOES SAY.
I HAD MENTIONED THE LIMIT ON GUEST IS 200, UM, AT ANY ONE TIME.
AND THE WEEKLY LIMIT WAS THE ACCESSORY, UM, EVENT.
THAT COULD BE NO MORE THAN TWO HOURS.
I ALREADY MENTIONED THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS, UH, AMPLIFIED SOUND MUSIC AND THE USE OF SOUND WOOFERS ARE PROHIBITED.
UM, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE AT LEAST ONE SECURITY, UM, UNIFORM SECURITY OFFICER PRESENT AT ANY EVENT THAT THEY'RE CHARGING ADMISSION FOR OR INCLUDES MUSIC, ALCOHOL, AND MORE THAN 100 GUESTS.
UM, AND THEN IT GIVES US SPECIFICS OF WHAT QUALIFIES TO BE WHAT THAT SECURITY OFFERS.
IT CAN BE A GOOCHLAND CARRY, SH COUNTY SHERIFF, A SECURITY GUARD, UM, EMPLOYED BY AER, A, A, UM, SECURITY COMPANY THAT IS LICENSED BY THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
UM, ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION, UM, MUST BE ALCO, UM, LICENSED BY, UM, THE DEPARTMENT OF ALCOHOL AND BEVERAGE CONTROL FIREWORKS ARE PROHIBITED.
UM, THEY NEED TO GIVE ANNUAL NOTICE TO, UH, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR IN MY OFFICE BASICALLY SAYING, THIS IS WHAT OUR PLANS ARE FOR THE YEAR.
AND AS THINGS CHANGE DURING THE YEAR, THEY NEED TO GIVE MONTHLY UPDATES TO OUR OFFICE.
THE EXPIRATION DATE, I PUT THE, UM, DECEMBER, UH, 2038 IN THERE.
UH, THAT WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY THE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION.
BUT OF COURSE THAT IS AT YOUR, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR DISCRETION.
AND LASTLY IS THE STANDARD TRANSFER OR LEASE, MEANING IF THEY SELL OR LEASE PROPERTY TO SOMEONE ELSE, THEY NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE CONDITIONS AND THEY NEED TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY.
THAT WAS KIND OF QUICK, BUT THAT IS THE SUMMARY OF MY PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO IN, IN THE SHERRY.
UM, ON THE AMPLIFIED SOUND, I THOUGHT ONE OF YOUR EARLIER SLIDES SAID NO AMPLIFIED SOUND AFTER 10, BUT READING THE CONDITIONS, UM, AMPLIFIED SOUND, IT SAYS, NO SOUND OR MUSIC AMPLIFIED OR ACOUSTIC SHALL BE PLAINLY AUDIBLE BEYOND ANY EXTERIOR BOUNDARY OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN B, AND I'M LOOKING AT PAGE MM-HMM.
THEN B IS SUBWOOFERS ARE PROHIBITED.
CORRECT? IS THAT, YEAH, SO THE, UM, THE OUTDOOR SOUND IS THE ONE THAT IS LIMITED.
UM, THERE'S NO AMPLIFIED WOLFERS OR AMPLIFIED SOUND OUTSIDE, BUT YOU CAN HAVE IT INTERIOR AND THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE ALSO EVEN AT THAT POINT IN TIME TO SUPPOSED TO STOP IT AT 10:00 PM DOES THAT HELP? I, I THINK SO.
SO THERE'S TWO MEASUREMENTS OF SOUND.
ONE IS THEY, IF THEY'RE INSIDE A 10 AREA.
I, I REMEMBER THIS CASE WHEN IT CAME BEFORE US YEARS AGO.
UM, AND THEY'VE NOT BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS.
IN FACT, IS THIS THE SAME CASE WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING THAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE ACTUALLY SAYING THAT WE TURN THE MUSIC UP A LITTLE BIT SO WE CAN HEAR IT
MS. LASETTE, I, I THINK MR. LUMPKINS ANSWERED THERE WE'RE COMPLAINT DRIVEN PROCESS, NO COMPLAINTS, CORRECT? NO, MA'AM.
JUST WANNA CONFIRM, MR. HONOR, MR. BATS, UM, IS IS THE, YOU SAID THE APPLICANT'S HERE? YES.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION, WE'LL GET TO THEM.
UM, I DON'T RE THE, THE ONE THAT YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT THERE ACTUALLY, NUMBER 15.
OH, IT'S 'CAUSE I HAVE THE ACTUAL ONE, THE BLACK LINE, IF YOU'LL, THAT THE, THE NUMBER 15 OF THE ANNUAL NOTICE IS THAT STANDARD WITH ALL OF OUR VENUES? UM, YEAH, IT, IT, FOR THE MOST PART, UH, I JUST, WE, WE, IF THEY AREN'T IN THE, UM, CEP, WE BRING IT UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS WHEN THE TIME COMES DOESN'T AFFECT THEIR ACTUAL ACTIVITIES.
BUT IT DOES, UH, WE WOULD ADD THAT.
I JUST WASN'T, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE THE FIRST TIME
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I NOTICED THAT.AND, AND I JUST WANT TO CHECK, UM, TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD THE CONVERSATION.
I MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN A LITTLE LOST, BUT, UM, AMPLIFIED, SOUNDERS MENTIONED IN TWO OF THE CONDITIONS.
SO UNDER HOURS OF OPERATION, IT SAYS ALL AMPLIFIED SOUND SHALL CEASE AT 10:00 PM MM-HMM,
SO THEN UNDER THE CONDITION SPECIFIC TO AMPLIFIED SOUND, IT SAYS YOU CAN'T HAVE SOUND OR MUSIC BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE.
DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T HAVE IT, YOU JUST CAN'T BE HEARD OUTSIDE THE PROPERTY.
SO THEY COULD HAVE OUTDOOR AMPLIFIED SOUND, UH, AS LONG AS IT CAN'T BE HEARD BEYOND THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE AMPLIFIED SOUND CEASES AT 10, AND THAT'S JUST PART OF THE HOURS OF OPERATION.
UM, SO THAT'S THE TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
ANYTHING ELSE FOR STAFF BEFORE WE ASK THE APPLICANT? IF YOU'D LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING YOU, MS. SHERRY, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? DID YOU, OKAY.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION SLASH REQUEST.
PLEASE COME UP TO AND GIVE US YOUR NAME AND, AND YOUR, YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
I LIVE AT 2200 SHEPPARD TOWN ROAD.
UM, CAN I APPRECIATE THE CONSCIENTIOUSNESS OF, UH, CONDITION 12 OF HAVING UNIFORM SECURITY? YES.
WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, ALWAYS REACHING OUT TO GLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT? YES.
FIRST SO WE CAN KEEP AS MUCH, UM, BUSINESS IN GLAND AS POSSIBLE? OH YEAH.
IF, I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE A SIMPLE AMENDMENT, I WOULD HOPE.
AND, UH, JUST SOMETHING THAT WE COULD GIVE OUR OFFICE OFF-DUTY OFFICERS A CHANCE TO DO.
ARE YOU REQUESTED THAT BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE PROFFERS CONDITIONS? EXCUSE ME.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT I THINK YOU'VE MADE, MADE IT KNOWN.
THEN
ANY, ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? OKAY, THANK YOU.
AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST PLEASE COME UP.
SEEING NONE CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. CHAIRMAN, SIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE.
UM, I MOVE THE BOARD, UH, GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 20 23 15 FOR PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE AT 2192 SHEPHERD TOWN ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED, ALONG WITH, UH, GRANTING IT A FIF AS A 15 YEAR CUP.
THAT ACTUALLY IS HOW IT IS PRESENTED AS PRESENTED.
IS THAT MS. KINS? THANK YOU MS. LASETTE.
I'M USUALLY, I'M USUALLY WAITING FOR OUR NEXT IS.
UM, AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD, JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
[5. District 3 - CU-2023-00016 Application by Andrew Swift requesting renewal of conditional use permit (CUP) CU-2007-00015A for automobile repair, automobile sales, and farm equipment sales and service on 2.616 acres at 1269 Broad Street Road on Tax Map No. 45-1-0-10-A. The property is zoned Business, General (B-1). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-242. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Single Family Residential, Low Density.]
IS BY ANDREW SWIFT.THIS IS ANOTHER RENEWAL FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UH, THE REQUEST IS FOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR, AUTOMOBILE SALES AND FARM EQUIPMENT, AND FOR, UH, FARM EQUIPMENT, SALES AND SERVICE.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE OILVILLE VILLAGE AND IT IS LOCATED SOUTH OF, UH, BROAD STREET ROAD.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH.
UM, IT IS THE, UM, THE BUSINESSES, UM, RIGHT ALONG BROAD STREET, AND THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME ADDITIONAL PROPERTY IN THE REAR AS WELL.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE LABELS, THERE IS THE AUTUMN BREEZE SUBDIVISION THAT IS TO THE, UM, JUST TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH.
UM, THERE'S ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES OVER HERE AS WELL AS, UH, FARMLAND AND LARGE LOT SUBDIVISIONS IN THE AREA.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED BUSINESS GENERAL B ONE.
UH, THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH IS AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, AND AS I MENTIONED, THE AUTUMN BREEZE SUBDIVISION IS ZONED RESIDENTIALLY AT, UH, WITH R ONE.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES RECOMMEND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY, WHICH IS A RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION.
UM, THERE'S A VARIETY, UH, NORTH OF BROAD STREET ROAD, THE FLEXIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL, WHICH
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IS A MORE INTENSIVE, UH, COMBINATION OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF HOUSING STYLE, COMMERCIAL AND THEN EVEN SOME INDUSTRIAL.SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EXISTING, UH, SITE.
THE PRIMARY BUILDING, WHICH YOU SEE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH IS THE GARAGE.
THERE'S ALSO AN UNFINISHED SHED, UM, WHICH IS, UH, 1700 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THE SITE ITSELF HAS BEEN USED FOR COMMERCIAL FOR MANY DECADES, I THINK 1950.
UH, WE DID SOME RESEARCH IN SWIFT TRACKED, UM, STRICT SWIFT TRACTOR COMPANY WAS IN EXISTENCE BACK THEN.
UH, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT THIS APPLICATION.
AND, UM, 2008, IT WAS APPROVED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WAS APPROVED FOR AUTOMOBILE SALES AND SERVICE BACK IN 2018.
THEY CAME BACK AND MADE A REQUEST TO ADD THE FARM EQUIPMENT, SALES AND SERVICE.
UM, AND THEN NOW THEY ARE BACK FOR THE RENEWAL.
UH, IT WAS A FIVE YEAR RENEWAL, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING NO CHANGES TO THEIR CUP ACTIVITY.
THERE WAS A MEETING HELD BACK IN AUGUST.
THERE WERE FIVE ATTENDEES, INCLUDING PLANNING COMMISSIONER MR. MYERS.
THE ATTENDEES DID EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE APPLICATION IN NOVEMBER AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A FIVE ZERO VOTE.
AND ONCE AGAIN, NOBODY SPOKE AT THAT MEETING.
THIS IS THE 2008 APPROVED PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
UH, SO YOU HAVE BROAD STREET ROAD, UH, RUNNING, UM, JUST TO THE NORTH AND EAST OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THIS IS THE, UM, THE SHOP, THE MAIN BUILDING THAT, UH, THE PRIMARY BUILDING THAT I TALKED ABOUT OVER HERE IS THE SHED.
THERE ARE TWO AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS AUTOMOBILE SALES.
THE, UM, REPAIRS OF THE VEHICLES AND THE FARMING EQUIPMENT NEED TO HAPPEN OUTSIDE OF VIEW OF BROAD STREET ROAD.
SO THEY OCCUR EVEN EITHER IN THE BUILDING OR THERE IS SOME AREAS, UH, THAT ARE BEHIND THE BUILDING THAT POTENTIALLY, UM, UH, REPAIRS COULD ALSO OCCUR.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL, UH, DESIGNATION FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO BUSINESS IS NOT CONSISTENT.
I DID ALSO MENTION THAT THIS HAS BEEN A USE THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
UM, AND THAT THERE ARE SIMILAR USES THAT ARE AROUND THERE.
UM, I MENTIONED THERE'S A COUPLE, RIGHT? UM, ACTUALLY, I GUESS ADJACENT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY, THERE ARE COMMERCIAL USES.
SO AGAIN, A SUMMARY OF, UH, THE CONDITIONS.
AND AS WITH THE LAST CASE, THEY WERE, UM, THEY'RE NOT PER, THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING ANYTHING NEW.
UM, THIS, THE, UM, THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TO OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS.
SO, UM, NUMBER ONE ALLOWS FOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR, AUTOMOBILE SALES, FARM EQUIPMENT, SALES SERVICE, OR, UM, AN EQUIPMENT, UH, PLANET DEVELOPMENT.
I MENTIONED IT NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH, UM, WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN THE PAST.
ANYTHING NEW, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, UH, AMEND THEIR, UM, CUP, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THEIR POD.
UM, I DID WANT TO MENTION THIS IS IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT FOR OILVILLE.
UM, ALL OF THE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE PRIOR TO, UM, ADOPTION OF THAT ORDINANCE THAT REGULATES THE OVERLAY DISTRICT.
BUT ANY NEW STRUCTURE THAT THEY PUT UP WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE, UM, ORDINANCE, UM, FOR OVERLAY DISTRICTS AUTOMOBILE DISPLAY.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE DISPLAY FOR THE, UM, FOR SALE, THOSE TWO AREAS.
UM, LEGAL COMPLIANCE, CLEAR, THEY, THEY NEED TO APPLY BY ALL THE STATE AND FEDERAL, FEDERAL REGULATION.
YOU KNOW, PARTICULARLY AS IT PERTAINS TO GAS AND, AND THINGS ALONG THE LINES THAT WOULD, UM, THAT GO ALONG WITH, UM, AUTOMOBILE REPAIRS, YOU KNOW, DISPOSING OF OIL, THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
UH, NO OUTSIDE STORAGE WOULD BE ALLOWED.
UM, ANY LIGHTING, UH, WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE, UM, SECURITY LIGHTING.
IT NEEDED TO BE SHIELDED DOWNWARD.
SIMILAR TO THE OTHER CASE WHERE IT HAD TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANCE.
UM, AND IF THEY DO ANY NEW LIGHTING, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A, UM, APPROVAL PROCESS FOR A LIGHTING PLAN.
UH, THEY'RE ALLOWED ONLY ONE COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
AGAIN, NO CHANGE TO THE REQUEST.
CURRENTLY ARE 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM LET ME RESTATE THAT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR ACTUAL HOURS ARE.
UM, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY AND THEN CLOSED ON SUNDAY.
THIS IS A 10 YEAR RENEWAL, SO THEY WOULD BE UP FOR RENEWAL IN 2033.
AND AS, UM, ALL OF OUR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, THE TRANSFER OR LEASE CONDITION IS NUMBER 11 OR 12.
I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL.
THANK YOU, MS. SHE, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME?
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OKAY.WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND ADD ANYTHING? I NEED YOU, YOU CAN.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO, EXCUSE ME.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD THAT IF YOU THINK MS. SHERRY HANDLED IT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL INVITE YOU UP AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IF ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING YOU'D WANT TALK ABOUT.
WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO YOU NO ONE COMING FORWARD AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. CHAIRMAN? MR. LUMPKINS, I MOVE THAT THE UCHIN COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2 23 0 0 16 FOR AUTOMOBILE REPAIR, AUTOMOBILE SALES AND FARM EQUIPMENT, SALES AND SERVICE AT 1269 BROAD STREET ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
ANY FURTHER? DISCUSSION? BOARD? OKAY.
I'M GUESSING OUR STREAK OF LACK OF COMMENTS MIGHT ENDING, BE ENDING.
[6. District 5 - RZ-2023-00013 Application by Boone Homes, Inc. requesting a rezoning of 3 acres from Agricultural, Limited (A-2) to Residential, General (R-3), with proffered conditions, for a residential subdivision at 471 Blair Road on Tax Map No. 64-7-0-C-0. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Single-Family Residential, Medium Density.]
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.THE NEXT, UH, APPLICATION IS A ZONING APPLICATION.
IT IS A REQUEST FOR A REZONING OF THREE ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL TO R THREE, UM, RESIDENTIAL GENERAL WITH PROFFERS, UH, TO CREATE A THREE LOT SUBDIVISION.
THE PROPERTY IS IN THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY, UM, THE EASTERN PART OF THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
UM, YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AREA, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC HERE.
WE HAVE, UM, PATTERSON AVENUE TO THE NORTH AND THEN, UH, RUNNING PERPENDICULAR.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS THIS RED THREE ACRE LOT, UM, THAT IS, UH, FACING, UH, BLAIR ROAD.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE.
THIS IS A SUBDIVISION, A 10 LOT SUBDIVISION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THIS BOARD BACK IN 2021.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, WEST OAKS, UM, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF BLAIR ESTATES.
THERE IS A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE THAT IS ADJACENT.
AND THEN THESE PROPERTIES ARE VACANT.
SO, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, AS ARE THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH SOUTH, AND ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS BLAIR ROAD.
R THREE IS WHAT WAS APPROVED FOR BLAIR ESTATES.
RPUD IS, UM, WHAT WEST OAKS IS ZONED.
AND JUST TO, FOR YOUR, UM, RECOLLECTION, UH, THIS IS THE, UM, THE CASE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
I BELIEVE IT WAS LAST MONTH FOR THE, UM, AUTO BODY SHOP.
AND THEN WE HAVE HOPE CHURCH RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN A VARIETY OF, UM, COMMERCIAL USES AT, UM, ALONG PATTERSON AVENUE.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THIS, UM, PROPERTY AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM, AND IT IS WITHIN THE RIVER ROAD COMMUNITY.
AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS A THREE LOT SUBDIVISION.
THE APPLICANT THROUGH THE PROFFERS HAS, UM, THIS AS AN EXTENSION OF BLAIR ROAD ESTATES, UM, THE 10 LOT SUBDIVISION I MENTIONED EARLIER.
UM, SO THEY HAVE PROFFERED BASICALLY THE SAME, UM, CONDITIONS.
AS FOR BLAIR ROAD, THERE IS A PERIMETER BUFFER OF 35 FEET, WHICH IS SIMILAR.
THE HOUSE SIZE AND APPEARANCE, INCLUDING ELEVATIONS AND BUILDING MATERIALS, MATERIALS ARE SIMILAR.
UH, THE SITE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE TCSD, THE TUCKAHOE SERVICE CREEK DISTRICT, HOWEVER, IT WILL BE SERVED BY PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER.
SO HERE IS, UM, A MARKUP OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS, UM, PRESENTED WITH THE APPLICATION.
SO THE THREE, UH, LOTS WILL BE IN THIS, UM, CURRENTLY ONE LOT HERE ALONG BRA UH, BLAIR ROAD.
THIS IS THE SUBDIVISION IN BLUE THAT ALREADY HAS BEEN APPROVED.
SO WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE, THE THREE LOTS WILL BE ACCESSING, UH, BLAIR ESTATES COURT.
SO THAT WILL, THAT WILL, UM, THAT WILL MINIMIZE ONE OF THE ACCESSES, UM, ONTO BLAIR ROAD.
SO THEY'LL BE COMING OFF THAT WAY.
UM, THEY ARE PROFFERING THE 35 FOOT BUFFER TO THE SOUTH.
AND THEN, UM, THEY'RE ALSO, UM, PROFFERING
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A, UM, A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG BLAIR ROAD.THEY, UM, ALSO HAVE RIGHT OF WAY ON THERE.
IT'S ACTUALLY THE LITTLE WRITING THAT'S RIGHT THERE, UM, TO IMPROVE BLAIR ROAD IN THE EVENT IT IS IMPROVED IN THE FUTURE.
SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, DESIGNATES THIS PROPERTY AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UH, THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE OF ONE ACRE IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE, THE PLANNING COMM.
I MEAN, NOT THE PLAN COMMISSION, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, EXCUSE ME.
SO THIS, UH, APPLICATION IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
HOWEVER, UM, IT, IT IS A SMALLER RECOMMENDATION THAN THAT WHAT THE, UM, THE PLAN RECOMMENDS.
THE LOT SIZES, HOWEVER, ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE, THE 10 LOTS THAT THIS BOARD APPROVED, UH, BACK IN 2021, APPROXIMATELY THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE.
AND, UM, LARGER THAN THE LOTS THAT WERE APPROVED JUST TO THE SOUTH, UM, AT WHITE AT WEST OAKS.
UM, SO BY THE, HAVING THE DENSITY BE IN THE LOTS, IT DOES ALLOW FOR PRIVATE ROAD, UM, PRIVATE LOTS.
UM, SO, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE BUFFERS AND, AND THE ROADS, IT KIND OF ACCOUNTS FOR THOSE WHEN YOU DO IT AS DENSITY AS OPPOSED TO AN AVERAGE.
SO, UH, THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROFFERED.
UM, THEY, THE PROFFERS SAY THAT THERE WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 2,500 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA FOR EACH OF THE DWELLINGS.
UM, THE HOMES WILL BE STILL ARCHITECTURE TREATMENT, AS I MENTIONED WITH THE, UM, APPROVED BLAIR ESTATES.
UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TRANSPORTATION.
UH, BLAIR ESTATES IS CLASSIFIED AS A MAJOR COLLECTOR.
UH, SPEED LIMIT IS 35 MILES AN HOUR.
UM, THERE IS AN EXISTING DWELLING ON THERE, AND THE DRIVEWAY IS ON BLAIR ROAD.
SO THIS WOULD REMOVE THAT ACCESS, UM, TO BLAIR ROAD.
THOSE WOULD BE ALL COMING OFF THE EXISTING, UH, BLAIR ROADS.
BLAIR STATE COURT, UH, BLAIR STATE COURT HAS THREE LOTS FRONTING THEM.
UM, THEY'RE, UH, YEAH, I MENTIONED THE, THE ELIMINATION AND THEN THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE RIGHT OF WAY IS SIGNIFICANT IN THE EVENT THAT, UM, THE ROAD IS WIDENED.
IT WOULD, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE THE NECESSARY, UM, RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BACK IN SEPTEMBER.
THERE WERE TWO ATTENDEES PRESENT.
UH, QUESTIONS, UM, INCLUDED THE BUFFER ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UM, WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED THE, UM, THE SAME BUFFER AS THE 10 LOTS AND THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT WERE PROPOSED IN NOVEMBER AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THIS APPLICATION WITH A FIVE OH VOTE, AND NOBODY SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THIS IS JUST A SUMMARY OF THE PROFFERS, UH, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WHICH I SHOWED YOU.
BUT THE, UM, THAT ALSO SHOWED, UM, THE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ON ALONG BLAIR ROAD.
UM, THAT WOULD BE A, UM, AN, UM, UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING TREE STAND THERE, I BELIEVE.
I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK.
UM, THE TREE STAND I WAS GONNA SAY, SO THAT, THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THERE, I, I'M ACTUALLY DOUBTING MYSELF ON THAT.
THERE'S A LOT OF CASES IN FRONT OF ME, SO I WILL, I WILL VERIFY THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
UM, A UH, LIMIT OF THREE LOTS.
UH, THE CASH PROFFER OF $9,809, UH, WHICH WOULD MITIGATE THE IMPACT, CAPITAL IMPACT RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, PROFFERS CONSISTENT WITH BLAIR ESTATES INCLUDE, THEY WILL HAVE THE SAME, THEY WILL BE SHARING THE SAME HOA, SO IT WILL NOT BE AN INDIVIDUAL HOA, UM, BUILDING ELEVATIONS MATERIALS.
THEY'RE PROVIDING STREET TREES AND SIMILARITY AS WELL AS A 35 FOOT SOUTHERN BOUNDARY.
SO THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GONNA, UH, FORWARD A LITTLE BIT TO SEE WHAT THE BUFFER SAYS.
UH, BUFFER MATERIALISM PLAN, THE BUFFER SHALL AT MINIMUM BE SUPPLEMENTED OR, UH, OH, I'M SORRY.
IT SAID, UM, THE BA NATURAL AND LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
SO I GUESS IT WILL BE A, A COMBINATION OF USING THE EXISTING, UM, TREE STAND AS WELL AS SUPPLEMENTING WHERE NECESSARY.
THANK YOU FOR INDULGING MY CLARIFICATION,
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS TIME? QUICK, QUICK, MR. LUMPKINS.
SO IT, IT'S NOT PERFECTLY HERE, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO, BUT I WANNA JUST VERIFY PROTECTIVE COVENANTS.
COVENANTS CONDITION AND EASEMENTS AND RESTRICTIONS ANNEXING THE PROPERTY INTO THE BLAIR ESTATES HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, INC.
SHALL BE RECORDED IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE, DA, DA DA DA, SETTING FORTH CONTROLS ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND MAINTENANCE OF PROPERTY AND ESTABLISHING AN OWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
THAT ASSOCIATION IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
IS IT THERE? UM, IT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.
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IS NOBODY IN THE, UM, THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO CLARIFY THIS WARNING.I MIGHT BE APPLICANT QUESTION.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN ANYBODY THAT'S ACTUALLY, I CAN WAIT, BUT I WANT, I, WHEN I SAW THIS, I, I WENT LOOKING FOR THIS BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THIS IS CLEAR.
THEY'RE NOT ESTA THAT THERE IS AN ASSOCIATION AND, AND THEN IT GOES ON.
UM, ASSOCIATION STILL SHALL ESTABLISH UNIFORM RULES RELATING TO THE STANDARDS OF A, FOR APPROVAL OF ANY IMPROVEMENTS, ET CETERA.
THERE ARE NO MINIMUM, UM, AND I DIDN'T SEE 'EM UNLESS I MISSED THEM.
THERE ARE NO LIKE MINIMUM, UH, NO.
AND I'M ASSUMING THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE REST? YES SIR.
THAT'S THE SAME SIZE THAT WAS PROFFERED WITH THE 2021 CASE.
SO THE PROFFERS ARE CONSISTENT.
AND YOU OBVIOUSLY STAFF HAS LOOKED AT THE CONSISTENCY OF THE PROFFERS HAVE, AND I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT IF THIS SAYS IT'S ESTABLISHING ASSOCIATION, BUT WE'LL JUST CONFIRM THEY'RE ACTUALLY JUST FOLDING THESE INTO AN EXISTING ASSOCIATION.
THAT I'LL ASK THAT TO THE APPLICANT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? MS. LASETTE? UM, THE, OR THE ORIGINAL PROPERTY NEXT TO AT THE 10 HOMES THAT THEY, OR 10 LOTS.
MM-HMM,
I KNOW THAT THIS CASE I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT AND THE LAST I HEARD THAT, UH, THERE IS A, UM, I GUESS A MODEL HOME UNDER CONSTRUCTION, BUT I THINK THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A BETTER CASE.
THAT GOES INTO MR. LUMPKIN'S QUESTION.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND ANSWER? I GUESS WE GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
YOU JUST GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
UM, WE ARE CELEBRATING OUR 35TH ANNIVERSARY THIS YEAR, AND WE'RE VERY PROUD TO BE HEADQUARTERED IN GOLAND COUNTY AT 62 BROAD STREET ROAD, UM, IN CENTERVILLE.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK JAMIE SHERRY, TOM COLEMAN, RAY CASH, AND ALL THE OTHER COUNTY STAFF MEMBERS THAT HAVE, UM, HAVE WORKED HARD TO GET THIS CASE READY FOR PRESENTATION TO YOU.
SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, WE WERE CONTACTED BY MR. HARS AND MS. SHEPHERD ABOUT POTENTIALLY PURCHASING THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY ACCOMMODATIVE DURING THE DEVELOPMENT OF BLAIR STATES AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SOMETHING WORK FOR THEM IN THEIR REQUEST.
WE THEREFORE HAD THE NECESSARY PRE-APPLICATION MEETING, COMMUNITY MEETING, AND FILED OUR, OUR REZONING CASE FOR THE THREE ACRES THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSIDERATION.
I BELIEVE THIS IS A REASONABLE REQUEST FOR AN ADDITION FOR AN ADDITION TO A HIGH QUALITY NEIGHBORHOOD.
WITH THAT SAID, I WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO APPROVE THIS CASE.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
UM, YOUR QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY, THE, THE HOA HAS BEEN FORMED, THERE IS ACTUALLY ONE HOMEOWNER THAT HAS CLOSED ON HIS HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE FOUR OR FIVE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE HAVE SOLD, UM, SEVEN OF THE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S THREE LEFT TO SELL.
UM, ONE IS ONE OF THOSE HOUSES IS BEING SPECKED OUT AS A SPECULATIVE BUILD.
UM, BUT THE OTHER TWO ARE AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
SO, SO ARE YOU STILL RUNNING THE ASSOCIATION AS THE WE ARE AND, AND, UH, IS WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN HERE AND, AND THE PLANS FOR THIS FRONT? LOTS.
JUST FOLDING IT IN AND HAVING THE SAME, SAME RE ARE SAME E EXACTLY THE SAME, SAME RESTRICTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND, AND SAME ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENTS AND, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
IT'S, IT'S FOUR SIDES BRICK IS WHAT WE'RE PUTTING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STARTING AT 3,500 SQUARE FEET, BUT WE DO ALLOW FULL CUSTOM BUILDS.
SO THAT'S, WE GAVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT 2,500 SQUARE FEET.
ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY, THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, WITH THAT I WILL OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING BOARD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR A MOTION? MR. CHAIR, YOU'RE PREPARED TO RECEIVE A MOTION? YES, SIR.
OR ENTERTAIN ONE? UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE, UH, REZONING RZ 2023, NUMBER 13 FOR THREE ACRES AT 4 71 BLAIR ROAD FOR AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL GENERAL R THREE WITH PR CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
UM, THE ONLY ONE, I, ONLY THING I'LL SAY ON THIS ONE, THIS ONE IS INTERESTING TO ME IS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SMART GROWTH AND PUTTING GROWTH IN DESIGNATED AREAS.
WHILE THIS IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN, I THINK I, AN ATTRACTIVE THING OF THIS IS THE WATER AND SEWER THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
UM, UM, SO I THINK IT FALLS MORE IN LINE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, PROJECTS THAT WE'VE HAD GOING ON.
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MRS. MOONER? YES.[7. District 4 - RZ-2023-00006 Application by Andrew Raymond Moore requesting rezoning of 16.059 acres from Agricultural, Limited (A-2) to Residential, Limited (R-1) with proffered conditions on Rockford Road approximately 350 feet east of Wheatlands Drive on Tax Map No. 46-1-0-111-A. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]
CHAIRMAN.THE NEXT APPLICATION IS A REQUEST FOR A REZONING BY ANDREW, UM, BY RAYMOND MOORE.
UH, THIS IS A REQUEST FROM AN AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT, AGRICULTURAL LIMITED TO A, UM, R ONE ZONING DISTRICT WITH PROFFERS FOR A SIX LOT SUBDIVISION.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF I 64 AND, UH, ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD, THE AERIAL I THINK SHOWS A, UM, A, OOPS, EXCUSE ME, A BETTER DEPICTION OF IT.
SO WE HAVE ROCKFORD ROAD THAT RUNS RIGHT HERE.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED, UM, BY RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE HAVE LARGER LOT, UM, RESIDENTIAL ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL AS THE WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST AND FORD SUBDIVISION, UH, TO THE, THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THIS PROPERTY AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
AND THE ZONING FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AS I MENTIONED, IS A TWO, AS IS THE PROPERTY TO, UH, THE NORTH AND TO THE EAST.
UM, WET, UH, WHEATLAND IS ZONED, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UH, RURAL OR RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
UH, SO HERE'S JUST A QUICK SUMMARY OF THE OVERALL REQUEST.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING A SIX LOT SUBDIVISION.
UH, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE WOULD BE TWO ACRES.
UH, SOME OF 'EM ARE A LITTLE BIT, UM, A LITTLE BIT ABOVE THAT.
UH, THERE IS A MINIMUM 100 FOOT, UM, WIDE BUFFER ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD AND A MINIMUM 25 FOOT PERIMETER NATURAL AND LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.
UH, THEY DID PROFFER THE ELEVATIONS THAT ARE BEFORE YOU, UM, JUST TO KIND OF BRING YOU, UM, UP TO SPEED AS TO WHAT THE APPLICANT COULD DO BY RIGHT.
UM, THROUGH THE PARENT TRACK, UM, PROCESS.
THERE IS ONE SPLIT LEFT TO THE PROPERTY SO THEY COULD CREATE A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION ON THIS PROPERTY BY RIGHT.
UM, BEFORE YOU, I GUESS I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS, UM, MS. BIW DID HAND, UM, PASSED DOWN SOME APPROVED PRO, UH, NOT APPROVED PROFFER, AMENDED PROFFERS THAT, UH, WE RECEIVED THIS EVENING FROM THE APPLICANT.
UM, THIS PRESENTATION WILL REFLECT, UH, THOSE, THOSE UM, CHANGES AND I'LL, UM, EXPLAIN WHAT WAS AND WHAT IS AS I GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, UH, THERE SHOULD BE SOME EXTRA COPIES OF THAT.
TOM, DID YOU PUT SOME COPIES IN THE BACK? THEY'RE IN THE BACK, YES.
SO THERE, FOR THE, UM, FOR THOSE IN ATTENDANCE, THERE'S A FEW COPIES THAT THEY WANNA TO LOOK AT.
THE, THE PROFFERS, THERE ARE TWO CHANGES, ONE TO PROFFER ONE AND ONE TO PROFFER FIVE.
SO IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE REVISED, UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE UM, CONCEPTUAL PLAN DOES SHOW SIX LOTS, UH, RESIDENTIAL LOTS FOR, UM, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, DWELLING DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THERE IS A PRIVATE ROAD, A HUNDRED FOOT, UM, BUFFER ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD.
UM, ALONG THE BOUNDARY LINE THERE IS A 25 FOOT, UM, BUFFER.
UM, IT WILL BE A, UM, LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT INCLUDES BOTH EXISTING AND SUPPLEMENTAL LANDSCAPING.
SO I DID WANNA MENTION THE CHANGES THAT WERE OCCURRED TODAY.
UM, SO NOW IN COMMON AREA, THE, UM, THE, THE BUFFER AND THE WETLANDS WILL NOW BE WITHIN THE, UH, COMMON AREA.
IT'S NO LONGER ON A PRIVATE LOT AS WELL AS, UM, THE TWO, UM, BMPS OR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PONDS.
THOSE HAVE BEEN MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL LOTS AND WILL BE, UM, MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT STORMWATER.
I MENTIONED THE TWO, UM, UM, STORMWATER PONDS THAT ARE ON THE EXHIBIT.
UM, WELL LEMME TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE EXISTING, UM, BEFORE I MOVE INTO WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE BY THE BY DEQ.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, A, UM, DRAINAGE WAY TRANS VERSUS IT GOES ACROSS 64 AND DOWN THROUGH, UM, THE LOTS WITHIN WETLANDS.
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UM, IT OUTFALLS INTO THERE.SO BETWEEN THE, THE, THE, THE PROXIMITY TO 64, UM, THERE AND, UM, THAT WATERWAY, THERE ARE STORM WATER ISSUES AND THERE IS FLOODING, UH, PARTICULARLY IN THE WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION.
SO I DID WANNA POINT THAT OUT AS I GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE PRESENTATION.
WHEN I TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAD HEARD FROM THE CITIZENS, THIS WAS, UH, ONE OF THE, UM, THE CONCERNS THAT WE HEARD.
SO, UH, BETWEEN, SO BACK WHEN NINE, UM, BACK WHEN 64 WAS CONSTRUCTION, THERE WEREN'T THE SAME REGULATIONS.
THEY WERE NOT NEARLY AS STRINGENT AS THEY ARE NOW AS FAR AS STORMWATER GOES.
SO WE, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT IS IN PART SOME OF THE, THE PROBLEMS THAT, UM, UM, ADD TO THE, THE FLOODING WITHIN, UH, THE SUBDIVISION.
UM, RAIN, I MENTIONED RAIN EVENTS DO CAUSE THE DRAINAGE WAY TO OVERFLOW AND IMPACT THE LOTS.
BUT I DO WANNA POINT OUT, UM, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT CURRENT STORMWATER, UH, MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS, THEY, THEY REQUIRE THAT THE SITE BE DESIGNED IN A MANNER THAT THEY CANNOT MAKE OFF, UM, SITE STORMWATER ISSUES ANY WORSE THAN THEY CURRENTLY ARE.
UM, SO IT HAVING THIS DEVELOPMENT HERE WILL NOT MAKE THEM WORSE BY LAW.
AND I THINK THE, UM, APPLICANT CAN PROBABLY TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S SOME QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS MIGHT IMPROVE THE, UM, CURRENT SITUATION.
BUT, UM, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE TO THAT AS FAR AS I KNOW.
SO I'M GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO, UM, THIS, UH, THIS APPLICATION IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT IS WITHIN THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
UM, RECOMMENDATION, AND FORGIVE ME, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND JUST READ THIS 'CAUSE THIS IS, UM, IMPORTANT AS WE GO THROUGH THE EXPLANATION AS TO WHY WE CONSIDER, UM, GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH COMP PLAN.
SO RURAL ENHANCEMENT AS DEFINED OR EXPLAINED THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, EXHIBIT A RURAL, A RURAL CHARACTER WITH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL FOREST, OR OTHER USAGE WHICH ARE NOT PLANNED FOR PUBLIC UTILITIES, PUBLIC OR CENTRAL UTILITIES, EXCUSE ME.
UH, RESIDENTIAL USAGE SHOULD INCLUDE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE.
UH, LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF GRADED AND NATIVE PLANT REMOVAL, CREATE MINIMAL VISUAL AND OTHER IMPACTS.
UH, SORRY, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT HARD TO READ, BUT, UM, UH, UH, SEE IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT IT FROM THE AUDIENCE, I APOLOGIZE.
UM, ROLE ENHANCEMENT AREAS, UH, DO NOT PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION ON LOT SIZE.
AS YOU HEARD IN OUR PREVIOUS, UH, THE TWO PREVIOUS REZONING CASES I TALKED ABOUT AVERAGE LOT SIZE, UM, IS OFTEN SAID IN, YOU KNOW, ONE ACRE LOT, UM, TWO ACRE LOTS IN, UH, FOR THE LOW DENSITY.
THEN YOU HAVE OUR RPUD, UM, D, WHICH HAS LIKE A, UM, A 2.5.
AND THERE'S ACTUALLY RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN, UH, THE COMP PLAN FOR THE SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL THAT ACTUALLY SAY POINTS TO THAT ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, SO THERE IS NO, UM, RECOMMENDATION ON A SIZE FOR, UM, FOR THE ROYAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
SO THAT WAS IN PART WHY STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED THIS AS BEING GENERALLY CONSISTENT.
I DID WANNA TALK A LITTLE ABOUT HOW WE GOT THERE.
UM, A ONE AND A TWO ZONING DISTRICTS DO ALLOW FOR TWO AND THREE ACRE LOTS RIGHT NOW TODAY.
UM, LOTS THAT ARE ON SECONDARY ROADS CAN BE TWO ACRES.
IF IT'S ON A PRIMARY ROAD, THEY NEED TO BE A MINIMUM OF THREE ACRES.
THAT IS WHAT IS ALLOWED PER THE ZONING ORDINANCE TODAY.
SO LOOKING AT WHAT'S IN THE AREA, UM, WE HAVE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED R UH, A REQUEST TO BE ZONED.
UH, THE WHEATLAND IS ZONED RR, WHICH IS THE RESIDENTIAL RURAL.
UM, THIS WAS REZONED BACK IN 1986.
AND THEN THE FORD'S SUBDIVISION, WHICH WAS DONE IN 1981 IS A TWO.
EACH OF THEM HAVE, YOU KNOW, VARYING, UM, AREAS.
16, APPROXIMATELY 16 ACRES FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
WHEATLAND APPROXIMATELY 1 23 ACRES FORDS, UM, APPROXIMATELY 1 47.
UM, LOT SIZE, I MEAN TOTAL LOTS, SIX FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, 54 WHITELANDS AND 42 FOR FORDS.
ALL THREE OF THE, THE TWO SURROUNDING HAVE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE, AND THAT IS THE REQUEST OF TWO ACRES AND THAT IS THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, CURRENTLY, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHAT I HAVE ON THE SCREEN, ACTUALLY 2.22 4.3, THAT WAS PRIOR TO WHAT WAS RECEIVED BY THE, UM, THE BOARD THIS EVENING.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY TWO ACRES, UM, LITTLE OVER TWO ACRES FOR THE LOTS.
NOW BECAUSE ALL OF THAT EXTRA LAND WAS PUT INTO THE COMMON SPACE THAT DID REDUCE THAT, UM, UH, ACRES PER LOT
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IS 2.68 AND THERE ARE NO OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE WHEAT LANDS.UM, THEY HAVE A LARGER RANGE, TWO ACRES TO, UM, 6.7 ACRE SIZE LOTS.
UM, AND THEIR DENSITY IS, UM, 2.46.
AND AGAIN, NO REQUIREMENT BACK IN, UM, 1986 FOR OPEN SPACE IN THE, UH, RR ZONING DISTRICT.
THINGS HAVE CHANGED, BUT BACK THEN THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT, UM, IN FORD'S, UM, WHICH WAS, UH, DEVELOPED OR APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A FINAL PLATT BACK IN, UH, 1981 WITH NO REZONING.
IT WAS, UM, IT IS TWO, UM, A TWO.
UH, THEY HAVE A, UM, TOTAL OF 42 LOTS, MINIMUM LOT SIZE ALSO TO, AND THEIR RANGE IS FROM TWO ACRES ALL THE WAY UP TO 10 PLUS ACRES AND A HIGHER, UM, DENSITY.
UH, I MEAN NOT DENSITY, A HIGHER AVERAGE OF 3.51.
UH, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW, UH, I THINK THAT WAS JUST WHAT THEY DECIDED TO DO AT THE TIME BECAUSE THERE WAS NO REZONING.
SO IT WAS NOT REQUIRED IN A BUYRIGHT UH, SUBDIVISION.
SPEAKING OF BY RIGHT SPLITS, I DID WANNA MENTION AGAIN THAT THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE, UM, THE RIGHT TO HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL SPLIT PER THE PARENT TRACK.
SO THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO DEVELOP TODAY A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION.
SO IN LOOKING AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EVALUATION, UH, GENERALLY CONSISTENT, I HAD MENTIONED, UM, UH, TWO ACRE LOTS ARE ALLOWED IN THE A TWO ZONING DISTRICT.
TODAY, THE DESIGNATION OF RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA DOES NOT GIVE A SPECIFIC, UH, THE DENSITY LOT SIDE IS COMPARABLE TO NEIGHBORING.
UH, SO THE IMPACT, UM, WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS THERE CURRENTLY NOT PLANNED FOR PUBLIC UTILITIES, AGAIN MENTIONED IN THE, UM, THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT DE DEFINITION OR, UM, UH, PARAGRAPH.
UH, THEY ARE PROVIDING A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG, UH, ROCKFORD ROAD, WHICH WOULD PROTECT THE VIEW SHEDS ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD.
AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE LANGUAGE TO FROM THAT, UH, DESIGNATION, THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT SEEK ANY TRANSPORTATION RELATED WAIVERS OR MEET AND MEET ACCESS RE UM, MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS AND DEVELOPMENT CANNOT MAKE OFFSITE STORMWATER ISSUES WORSE AND MAY REDUCE, UM, ACTUALLY THE, UM, THE OFFSITE IMPACTS.
BUT AGAIN, I I, I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD.
UH, THERE WAS ACTUALLY TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS HELD.
THE FIRST ONE WAS HELD BACK IN APRIL.
THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 28 ATTENDEES.
UH, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT INCLUDED, UM, UH, RURAL CHARACTER IMPACTS AND, UM, SPRAWL FROM, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPED MORE DEVELOPED AREAS, UH, REMOVAL OF EXISTING INTERNAL ROAD THAT'S IN REFERENCE TO AN INTERNAL ROAD THAT'S ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, UH, STORMWATER, UH, DRAINAGE AND THE WETLANDS IMPACTS TO THE, UM, WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION R ONE ZONING IN THE AREA.
UM, THERE, YOU KNOW, THE LIMITED R ONE ZONING IN THE AREA AND NO BY RIGHT LOTS, UM, NUMBER OF, A NUMBER OF BI, UH, BUY RIGHT LOTS AS WELL AS A NUMBER OF RR LOTS.
UM, THE NEED FOR LARGER SETBACKS.
UM, THE FACT THAT THERE ARE TWO PROVIDERS OF ELECTRICITY IN THE AREA IMPACTS ON WELLS, THE POTENTIAL SPRINKLER SYSTEMS, UM, IMPACTING THE WATER SUPPLY, UM, WILDLIFE IMPACTS AND TREE REMOVAL AND FARMING.
UM, AND THE COUNTY'S A-C-R-E-S INITIATIVE.
UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT EVALUATED, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW, UM, HOW WE CURRENTLY DEAL WITH, UM, OUR, OUR, OUR FARMLAND.
OUR FARMLAND AND ACTUALLY INCLUDED SOME OF THE LANGUAGE FROM OUR EXISTING COMP PLAN THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW TO, UM, PRESERVE, UM, THE RURAL CHARACTER OF OUR RURAL AREAS.
UM, AT THE APRIL MEETING OVERALL, UH, ATTENDEES EXPRESSED OPPOSITION.
THERE WAS A SECOND COMMUNITY MEETING HELD.
UH, THIS WAS THIS, UH, LAST MONTH IN NOVEMBER, THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 40 ATTENDEES.
UH, VERY SIMILAR CONCERNS, UH, STORMWATER WETLANDS, THE, THE BY RIGHT, UM, UH, THE SIZE OF THE LOT BUFFERS, POTENTIAL TREE REMOVAL IMPACTS ON THE WATER SUPPLY, UH, ROAD IMPACT RURAL CHARACTER, AND AGAIN, THE SPRAWL AND, UM, THE APPLICATION AND DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
THEY WERE JUST LAST ASKING QUESTIONS LIKE HOW MANY TIMES CAN THEY DEFER THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
UH, SET OF SEVERAL, UH, ATTENDEES, UH, DID EXPRESS CONCERN WITH THIS APPLICATION AT THE JULY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, UH, AT THEIR PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL ON A
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THREE, TWO VOTE.MR. MYERS AND MR. ELLI VOTED AGAINST THE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.
NINE PEOPLE DID SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST AND EXPRESSED CONCERNS WITH STORMWATER, UH, RURAL CHARACTER, UH, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, CONSISTENCY, ACCESS AS WELL AS BUFFERS.
UM, WE DID RECEIVE FIVE ADDITIONAL EMAILS AND OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
UM, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE R ZONING R ONE ZONING ITSELF IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
UM, ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, LACK OF SIGNI, SIGNIFICANT OPEN SPACE, UM, CONSTRUCTION, NOISE, TRAFFIC, HOUSING VALUES, UM, IMPACT TO THE WETLANDS AND TO WILDLIFE.
SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BACK IN JULY, UH, THE APPLICANT DID REQUEST TWO DEFERRALS, UM, FROM AUGUST TO, UH, DEFERRALS FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUBLIC HEARING, UM, FROM AUGUST TO SEPTEMBER.
AND THEN IN SEPTEMBER THEY MADE THE REQUEST TO, UM, UH, HAVE THEIR, UM, HEARING TONIGHT IN DECEMBER.
UM, THEY, UM, SO I DO HAVE, UM, THE PROFFER AMENDMENT.
SO I'D MENTIONED, UH, OH, I, I, I, I'M FOLLOWING MY OWN IDEAS HERE.
WE, WE HAD THAT, UM, UH, THE, UM, PROFFER AMENDMENT COME IN TWICE TODAY.
SO THERE WAS A, ORIGINALLY, EARLIER THIS MORNING, THE APPLICANT, UH, DID, UH, OH, ACTUALLY THAT'S NOT TRUE.
WELL, ANYWAY, THE APPLICANT DID PROFFER A 25 FOOT NATURAL LANDSCAPE BUFFER, UM, TO THE, THE FORD SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS ON ONE SIDE.
SO NOW THE, UM, THE, THE PROFFERS ACTUALLY READ, UM, THE, THIS, UM, I GUESS LANDSCAPED AND NATURAL TREE AREA WILL BE ON ALL OF THE PROPERTY LINES THAT FACE THAT ABUT THE RESIDENTIAL.
SO WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY IS SINCE THE AGENDA PACKET WAS PUBLISHED, SO, UM, THEY HAVE, UM, PLACED THE BMPS, UM, INTO SEPARATE LOTS IN ORDER TO MEET DEQ REGULATIONS.
UM, THE WETLANDS WERE REMOVED FROM LOT SIX AND IN, UH, THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ON ROCKFORD ROAD THAT NOW IS WITHIN A COMMON AREA.
AND, UM, THE HOA WILL MAINTAIN BOTH THE, UM, BUFFER AS WELL AS THE, UM, PROPERTY BUFFER.
THAT IS HOW THE, UM, APPLICANT IS INTENDING.
I DO KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UM, SOME, UH, WE JUST RECEIVED THE PROFFERS THIS EVENING AND I KNOW MS. MCGEE, UM, HAS, UH, HAS BEEN, HAS RE REVIEWED THEM.
SHE MAY HAVE SOME COMMENT ON THAT.
SO, JUST A, A PROFFER SUMMARY, I'M GONNA BE KIND OF REPEATING A LOT OF WHAT I ALREADY SAID, BUT JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING PROFFERED.
A CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT LIMITS SIX RESIDENTIAL LOTS, A MINIMUM SIZE, LOT OF TWO ACRES, ELEVATION AND BUILDING MATERIALS.
UH, THERE'LL BE BRICKER STONE FOUNDATIONS ROOFING MATERIALS THAT HAVE A MINIMUM 25 YEAR WARRANTY.
UH, TWO POSSIBLE BUILDING SIZE MINIMUMS. UM, A ONE STORY WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 1800 SQUARE FEET.
FLOOR, FLOOR AREA, UH, TWO STORY MINIMUM WILL BE 2,500 SQUARE FEET.
MINIMUM FLOOR AREA I MENTIONED THE BUFFER, UH, A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG, UH, ROCKFORD ROAD, THE 25 NATURAL AND LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE.
UH, THEY WILL BE PROVIDING A CASH FOR OFFER OF $9,809 PER RESIDENTIAL.
LOT TO HELP MITIGATE, UH, TO MITIGATE, UM, THE CAPITAL IMPACTS.
UM, THEY HAVE THE PROTECTIVE COVENANTS AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION LIMITATION ON CONSTRUCTION HOURS 7:00 AM TO 8:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, AND THEY WILL BE PUTTING IN UNDERGROUND UTILITIES IF APPROVED.
AND, UM, IN FRONT OF YOU ARE THE TWO PROFFER CHANGES THAT WE DID RECEIVE THIS EVENING.
THIS IS, UM, WHAT IS IN FRONT OF THE BOARD ON THE DAIS AS WELL AS WHAT, UM, IS AVAILABLE FOR A COUPLE COPIES FOR THE, THE CITIZENRY AS WELL.
UM, THEY, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN BASICALLY SHOWS, UM, CHANGE THE DATE ON THERE.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S DIFFERENT ON THE ACTUAL PROFIT ITSELF, BUT IT DID SHOW THE BUFFER AS WELL, THE TWO STORM WATER PONDS OUTSIDE OF THE, UM, THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS, THE PROTECTIVE COVENANTS.
UM, THEY ADDED SOME LANGUAGE TO, UM, ENSURE THAT IT DID COVER THESE COMMON LOTS, BUFFER EASEMENTS AND OPEN SPACES.
AND AGAIN, UM, MS. MCGEE MAY HAVE SOME, UH, LEGAL, UH, WEIGH IN ON THESE AS WELL.
AND, UH, THAT REALLY CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
THANK YOU MS. SHERRY BOARD, ANYTHING BEFORE
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THE APPLICANT GETS HER PRESENTATION.MS. CHAIRMAN, UH, MS. SHERRY? YES, SIR.
IF WE HAD ADOPTED, UH, WE DEFERRED EARLIER THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, UH, FIRST THING WE, WE DEFERRED THAT TO FEBRUARY.
IF WE HAD ADOPTED THAT TONIGHT, UM, AND LEMME BACK UP.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROPOSING A PRIVATE ROAD, CORRECT? THEY ARE PROPOSING A PRIVATE ROAD, CORRECT.
IF WE HAD ADOPTED THE ORDINANCE THIS EVENING, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO THIS, CORRECT? UM, IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE ORDER UPON WHICH I GUESS THE HEARING WOULD, UM, BE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MS. MCGEE, IF THEY WERE ON THE CALENDAR, I MEAN ON THE AGENDA PRIOR YEAH, UNDER THE, IF WE ADOPT THAT ORDINANCE AND THEN THEY COME TO US, SIR, WITH THIS, THIS WOULD HAVE TO BE A PUBLIC ROAD.
AND YOU EMPHASIZED SEVERAL TIMES, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE, AND I'M, I'M NOT, I'M NOT TRYING TO PICK ON YOU, BUT I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING YOU SAID YOU WERE EMPHASIZING THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH A TWO AGRICULTURAL MINIMUM LOT SIZE.
BUT IN THIS CONTEXT, IS IT, I WANNA PHRASE THIS IN A WAY, AGAIN, I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR STATEMENT, BUT THEY HAVE ONLY ONE MORE FA BY RIGHT SUBDIVISION FAMILY, FAMILY TYPE SUBDIVISION HERE.
THROUGH THE PARENT TRACK, THEY ARE ALLOWED ONE MORE BY RIGHT SPLIT.
AND SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY COULD DO A TWO ACRE LOT IN THAT CONTEXT? THEY COULD, BUT THAT MINIMUM LOT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN HAVE FIVE, TWO ACRE LOTS IN A TWO.
SO THEIR REQUEST, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THE PARENT TRACK WERE KIND OF EVALUATED INDIVIDUALLY.
I MEAN, THEY HAVE THEIR BUYRIGHT, BUT EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE THEIR BUYRIGHT AND THAT REQUEST CAME IN, WE EVALUATED IT UPON THOSE.
THEY ALSO, THERE'S ANOTHER INTERIM ZONING CLASSIFICATION WHERE THEY COULD GET HOW MANY LOTS.
SO THERE IS THE RR ZONING DISTRICT, UH, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY BECAUSE, UH, WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S ACTUALLY MADE UP.
WE THINK THAT THEY POTENTIALLY COULD GET THREE.
THAT THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT A LITTLE BETTER.
HE MAY HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED THE SCENARIO, BUT AGAIN, YOU WEREN'T ASKED TO EVALUATE THAT.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOU, YOU'RE NOT, NOT HOLDING YOU TO THAT.
I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, BUT ON YOUR SCENARIO, WE KNOW TWO BY RIGHT.
AND THAT, AND THEN, AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR SIX.
UM, AND YOU SHOWED US THE REVISED MAKE SURE I'M LOOKING AT THE, THE REVISED, THE, THE, THE BMPS WERE MOVED.
YEAH, I HAVE THE ORIGINAL AS WELL.
OH, THAT'S, THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.
SO THIS IS, UM, THE 1114, WHICH CAME OUT WITH THE PACKET.
AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO ACTUALLY SEE, BUT UM, THAT IS NOT THE ACTUAL LOTS, THE LOTS ACTUALLY ARE, UM, DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE PRIVATE ROAD ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS HAS A FOUR PLUS, OR WHAT IS THAT? LIKE SIX PLUS? I CAN'T SEE THAT FAR.
SO THAT, THAT IS ONE LOT ACCORDING TO, UM, WHAT, WHAT CAME FOR IS THAT LIKE, I GUESS I'M CAUTIOUS TO USE, BUT IS THAT THE BUILDING ENVELOPE? IS THAT, IS THAT, I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S HARD TO SAY.
I, I DUNNO, THAT MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
I MEAN, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE CALL IT, BUT I HAVEN'T, THERE'S NO MEASUREMENTS ON IT, SO I'M NOT SURE.
LIKE THERE'S NO SETBACKS, I DON'T THINK.
THAT'S, AND, AND JOHN, CAN YOU FLIP TO THE REVISED CONCEPTUAL PLAN? ABSOLUTELY.
I, I THINK I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT ON THAT, BUT, BUT THE BMPS ARE, ARE ON, ON PROPERTY THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE INDIVIDUAL LOT? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND THE INTENT, I BELIEVE IS FOR THE HOA TO, UM, TO, UM, MAINTAIN THAT NOT, I KNOW THAT IS THE INTENT
WELL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GO.
IF YOU CAN GO TO, TO PROTECTIVE COVENANTS NUMBER FIVE.
AND I, AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT IT'S YEP, NO PROBLEM.
IT'S, I'M GONNA GIVE THE APPLICANT A, A, A QUICK HEADS UP ON, ON A CONCERN NUMBER FIVE.
NOWHERE IN HERE DOES IT SAY WHAT I THINK IT SHOULD SAY.
AND, AND IT SAID IT, UH, IN, IN MY OPINION, THE ASSOCIATION SHALL OWN AND MAINTAIN THE COMMON AREAS AND SHALL MAINTAIN THE BUFFER EASEMENTS.
IT, IT, MOST OF THE TIME I THINK WE SEE THAT.
SO THAT'S NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO OPINE OR RESPOND.
I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT CAN ANTICIPATE COMING THEIR WAY.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD MY PRESENTATION? OH, THANK YOU.
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WE ARE PICKING THE, THE HEAVIEST, UM, AGENDA FOR STAFF TO NOW BE DOING THE, UM, CONTROL OF THE, UH, SLIDESHOW.SO FORGIVE ME, WE'RE STILL CLUNKING ALONG.
ANDREW BROWNING, YOUNGBLOOD, TYLER AND ASSOCIATES REPRESENTING THE, UH, OWNER MR. RAY MOORE.
I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION FOR, UH, TO GO THROUGH TONIGHT.
SO I'M GONNA SKIP TO THIS PLAN FIRST.
SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS, UH, R ONE'S ON ZONING, UH, SIX LOTS ON 16 ACRES FOR A DENSITY OF ABOUT 0.38 U 0.38 UNITS PER ACRE.
MINIMUM OF TWO ACRE LOTS ACCESSED BY ONE PRIVATE ROAD ONTO ROCKFORD ROAD.
UH, A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER, UH, COMMON AREA BUFFER ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD.
WE HAVE 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AROUND THE ENTIRE RESIDUAL PROPERTY LINES.
UH, WE'RE PROTECTING THE EXISTING WETLANDS ALONG THAT EXISTS ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD.
THE, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
UH, I THINK THIS IS THE POINTER, SO COMPLETELY SURROUNDED ON THREE SIDES OF US, OR TWO TO THREE ACRE LOTS.
AND WE WERE ALSO PROPOSING TWO TO THREE ACRE LOTS.
UM, THE PLAN IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS INDICATED BY STAFF, UM, TO WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR SOME LAST SECOND CHANGES OR LAST MINUTE CHANGES HERE.
UH, WE THOUGHT WE HAD THIS PLAN PRETTY IRONED OUT, AND STAFF CAME TO US LATE YESTERDAY EVENING, UH, WITH A REQUEST TO, UH, TAKE THE STORMWATER BASINS OUTSIDE OF THE LOTS.
SO WE, TODAY WE WERE KIND OF SCRAMBLING TRYING TO GET THIS PLAN BACK TOGETHER TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE PLAN TO REMOVE THOSE BASINS.
UH, THE INTENT INITIALLY WAS THE ENTIRE SITE, THERE WOULD BE NO COMMON AREA OWNED BY THE ASSOCIATION.
ALL THE AREA WOULD BE OWNED BY THE LOT OWNERS.
SO THERE WOULD BE A PRIVATE ROAD, SO THERE WOULD BE A, A, A ROAD OR RIGHT AWAY EASEMENT, AND YOU WOULD OWN TO THE CENTER OF THE ROAD.
AND THOSE STORMWATER BASINS WOULD BE ON YOUR LOT WITHIN AN EASEMENT AS WELL, MAINTAINED BY THE ASSOCIATION.
I GUESS IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCALITY.
DEQ ALLOWS THAT SOME LOCALITIES WANT 'EM OUT OF THE LOTS.
SOME, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE TO BE IN THE LOTS.
SO AT THE LAST MINUTE WE WERE KIND OF SCRAMBLING TO, TO GET THESE CHANGES MADE, UH, TO PULL THOSE OUT OF THE LOTS.
UM, THE ANTENNA IS, THE HOA WILL OWN THE COMMON AREA, A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD.
IT WILL OWN THESE AREAS, WHETHER IT'S STORMWATER BASINS, ALL THAT WILL BE SOME EASEMENT OR A WAY TO GET THE, THE RUNOFF FROM THE ROAD INTO THOSE BASINS.
SO IT'D BE AN EASEMENT OVER THE LOT POTENTIALLY TO GET TO THE BASIN TO GET THE, THE RUNOFF TO THOSE.
UH, THE, THE ORANGES COLOR IS THE BUILDABLE AREA, SO THE BUILDING SETBACKS, THAT'D BE THE AREA YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO, TO BUILD WITHIN, UH, THE BUFFERS WE PROPOSE ALONG THE, THE PERIMETER, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE WOODED.
NOW, THERE'S SOME AREAS IN HERE THAT WE'LL NEED ARE NOT FULLY WOODED, AND MAYBE SOME ALONG THE, THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE WE'VE PROFITED.
WE'RE GONNA SUPPLEMENT THOSE BUFFERS WITH ADDITIONAL PLANNINGS TO A REQUIREMENT THAT WE PROFFERED IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A, A VISUAL, UH, VISUAL SCREEN FROM THE S THESE BUFFERS WERE EASEMENT BUFFER EASEMENTS WITH ON THE LOTS.
WE'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST WITH A PROJECT CALLED CARVER OAKS IN OILVILLE.
WE, THAT THAT PROJECT HAD BUFFER EASEMENTS WITHIN THE LOTS AND, AND WAS ALLOWED.
MR. BROWN, HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT THAT YOU DID CAR BROOKS? UH, WE, THAT PROJECT WAS PROBABLY FIVE YEARS AGO MAYBE.
UM, SO THE, THE PROPOSED HOMES IN THE DEVELOPMENT BE A MIX OF STYLE ARTS, UH, CRAFTSMEN, ARTS AND CRAFTS, FARMHOUSE TRADITIONAL.
WE PROFFERED IN ELEVATIONS, UH, MINIMUM PROFFERED A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 1800 SQUARE FEET FOR SINGLE STORY AND 2,500 FOR TWO STORY ANTICIPATING HOME PRICES TO BE IN THE VICINITY OF SIX TO $800,000.
THESE WERE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WE PROFFERED.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN DILIGENT TO TRY TO, UH, ADDRESS ALL THE CONCERNS OF THEIR NEIGHBORS AND AND STAFF.
WE CONDUCTED TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
THE FIRST WAS BACK IN APRIL, AND THE, THE LATEST ONE WAS IN NOVEMBER.
THE, THE LATEST ONE WAS WELL ATTENDED, MAYBE 35 OR 40, UH, RESIDENTS.
UH, IN MY OPINION, IT WENT QUITE WELL.
THERE WERE, THERE WAS QUESTIONS ASKED, UM, UH, BUT I THINK WE ADDRESSED MOST OF THE CONCERNS.
I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME TO, TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
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RESULT OF THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THE VERY FIRST TIME WE CAME UP WITH A PROJECT, WE HAD SEVEN LOTS AND WE WERE GONNA DO A PUBLIC ROAD, UH, AND THERE WAS OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT, LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS.WE REDUCED IT DOWN TO SIX LOTS.
UH, AND THEN THAT, THAT MADE THE LOTS BIGGER, UH, INCREASED THEM TO TWO ACRES IN SIZE.
WE ADDED THE BUFFERS ALONG THE ENTIRE PERIMETER, UH, AND, AND THE ADDITIONAL PLANNING REQUIREMENTS BASED ON CONCERNS FROM THE, FROM THE NEIGHBORS, ADDED QUALITY STANDARDS FOR THE HOMES.
AND, AND AS I MENTIONED JUST RECENTLY, WE, WE CHANGED, UH, FOR STAFF AND ADDED THOSE STORMWATER BASINS BACK INTO, WITHIN THE COMMON AREA, TOOK 'EM OUTTA THE LOTS AND PUT 'EM IN COMMON AREA.
THERE WERE, THERE WAS A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS ABOUT DRAINAGE AT SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
UM, THIS MAP KIND OF SHOWS WHAT THE DRAINAGE AREAS ARE NOW.
IT'S, IT WASN'T AS MUCH DRAINAGE AS I, AS I THOUGHT WOULD BE TO THE LOCATIONS.
THERE IS A, THERE'S A STREAM HERE THAT KINDA RUNS THROUGH THE WETLANDS SUBDIVISION ALMOST RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LOTS, ALMOST.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A LARGE WETLAND AREA ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A DRIVEWAY EXISTING ROAD RIGHT ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE THAT COMES INTO THIS FIELD.
AND WHEN THEY DAMMED UP FOR THE DRIVEWAY, THEY DIDN'T PUT A PIPE IN.
AND SO IT CREATED LIKE A POND ESSENTIALLY, AND IT DAMMED THAT AREA UP.
AND WETLANDS FORMED SOME POINT LATER.
THE OWNER, I THINK, CAME IN AND PUT A SMALL PIPE IN.
THE PIPE'S STILL UNDERSIZED, AND IT'S NOT LOW ENOUGH.
SO STILL IT HOLDS WATER WHEN, IN THE RAINY SEASON.
NOW IT PROBABLY HAS WATER IN IT.
AND SO THERE'S A WETLAND AREA, BUT THAT'S MAINLY HOW THAT FORMED.
BUT IT'S ONLY ABOUT 15 ACRES DRAINING TO THAT LOCATION.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ANY WATER COMING FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF I 64.
THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER AREA, THE PRESSED AREA WITHIN THE SITE THAT DRAINS DOWN IN, OUT TO THESE AREAS, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY ISN'T IN THAT SAME STREAM IN WHEATLAND, BUT IT'S A LITTLE LOWER ON THE SITE.
AND SO IN THOSE TWO LOCATIONS, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING THOSE TWO STORMWATER BASINS TO CATCH THE RUNOFF BEFORE IT LEAVES OUR SITE.
AND WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STORMWATER REGULATIONS, WE WILL BE RELEASING LESS WATER AFTER THE DEVELOPMENT THAN WHAT IS RUNNING OFF OF IT TODAY.
TH THOSE ARE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STORMWATER REGULATIONS IN PLACE.
SO WE, WE'D HAVE TO RE REDU, UH, RELEASE 80% OF THE, IF YOU, IF THAT WHOLE SITE WERE WOODED, WE WERE ONLY ALLOWED TO RE RELEASE 80% OF WHAT THE RUNOFF FROM THAT SITE WOULD BE IF IT WAS ALL IN TREES.
AND, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IT'S IN, IN A FIELD TODAY.
SO OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD, SHOULD IMPROVE THE, THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS DOWNSTREAM.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BEFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? MR. KINS, REAL QUICK, MR. BROWNING ON, ON MY, MY QUESTION.
WELL, PRIVATE ROAD, UM, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU DID TO THE MIDDLE OF THE LOTS OF THEY OWN.
SO DID THAT IN, IN YOUR VIEW, DOES THAT JUST REMOVE, OR IN YOUR PLANS, DOES THAT REMOVE ANY NEED FOR A-A-R-M-A OR A ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT OR, OR IS THERE A PLAN TO HAVE A ROAD MAINTENANCE STILL WOULD'VE? A ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT, YES, SIR.
IS THAT IN THE PROFFERS SOMEWHERE? I DON'T THINK THAT'S PROFIT STAFFORD WOULD REQUIRE THAT.
THEY'RE REQUIRING THAT NOW WITH, FOR ALL PRIVATE ROADS.
IT'S JUST A REQUIREMENT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PROFFERED.
SO THAT, IT'S THAT IN AN ORDINANCE, I MEAN, YOU JUST, YOU REQUIRE IT AS PART OF THE POD REVIEW, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO AND, AND THAT, SO IT'S A POLICY.
IT'S PROBABLY, WELL IT'S, I BELIEVE IT'S PART OF THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
I CAN LOOK IN HERE TO VERIFY FOR WHEN IT'S PLATTED BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SO MUCH DISCRETIONARY.
BUT, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S A DEBATE FOR THE NEXT BOARD.
I'M PRETTY SURE WE DO HAVE A, YEAH, WE, WE DID A PROJECT CALLED WEST CASTLE THAT WAS JUST FOUR LOTS AND HAD A PRIVATE ROAD AND STAFF REQUIRED US TO HAVE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT RECORDED PRIOR TO RECORDATION OF THE PLATT.
SO THAT HAS BEEN, SO YOU PRETTY MUCH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT WHETHER YOU, UM, SHIFT THE LOT, LOT LINES AWAY FROM THE CENTER.
SO WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR PURPOSE OF PUTTING, WAS IT TO GET A SI LOT SIZE? DID YOU JUST, JUST THE, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY, UH, PROPERTY OWNED BY THE ASSOCIATION INITIALLY.
IT WOULD ALL BE OWNED BY A LOT OWNER AND IT WOULD JUST BE, SO THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
BUT NOW THAT YOU'RE PUTTING THE BMPS IN THE ASSOCIATION, UM, WHAT'S THE, WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT TO JUST GO AHEAD AND ALLOW THE ROAD TO BE INTO THE ASSOCIATION AS WELL? WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE CONSEQUENCES OF DOING THAT? UH, SO I MEAN, WE, WE COULD POSSIBLY PUT THAT IN AS WELL.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE SCRAMBLED TO PUT TOGETHER THE LOT LINES TO MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE WE PROFFERED TWO ACRE LOTS AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE HAD THE LOT ACREAGE.
WELL, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT, THAT'S KINDA WHAT I'M GOING AT.
YOU'RE GETTING, ARE YOU GETTING YOUR ACREAGE BY TAKING, BY TAKING THE, THE PROPERTY LINE UP TO THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD? POSSIBLY.
SOME OF THAT IS, IS WITHIN THOSE ACRES, BUT IT MAY BE ABLE TO STILL OBTAIN THE SAME DENSITY IF YOU PULL IT OUT.
I, WE HAVEN'T, I HAVEN'T STUDIED THAT THOROUGHLY TO SEE IF I CALCULATE THE AREAS OUTSIDE OF THAT EASEMENT.
AND YOU SAID THE BUFFERS AROUND THE, AT THE BACK OF EACH LOT IS ALSO NOW
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IN THE LOTS.THE, THE BUFFERS IN THE REAR OF THE LOTS WERE IN THE LOTS.
THE, THE, THE, UH, A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD WAS NOT, WOULD BE COMMON AREA.
SO THAT WAS NOT PART OF THE LOT.
I THINK WE'VE HAD THIS RECENTLY TOO, WHERE, WHERE IF YOU HAVE PRIVATE OWNERS OWNING THE BUFFER, IT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT FOR NEIGHBORS IN THE COUNTY TO SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA MAINTAIN THE BUFFERS.
'CAUSE WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT AN INDIVIDUAL VERSUS THE ASSOCIATION.
SO, SO THAT THE PROFFER THAT WE HAD FOR THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, THAT WAS THE EXACT PROFFER WE HAD AT THE VILLAGE OF HIDDEN ROCK.
THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME PROFIT THAT WAS APPROVED OF THAT CASE.
THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME FAIRGROUNDS ROAD VILLAGE HIDDEN ROCK RECENTLY.
SO, SO WE, BUT I SEEM TO REMEMBER WE DID TALK ABOUT OWNERSHIP OF, OF THAT, LIKE THAT EASEMENT.
I THINK I TOOK THAT WORD FOR WORD FROM THAT CASE.
WELL, IT'S, UM, THAT MAY BE THE CASE.
YOU, ANDREW, I'M SURE YOU HAVE A BETTER, UM, RECOLLECTION OF YOUR CASES THAN WE DO UP HERE.
BUT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY, IT IT, IT SHOULD STILL STATE AND I THINK IT'S YOUR INTENTION.
SO IT SHOULD STATE THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
THE HOMEOWNERS THEY OWN AND MAINTAIN YES.
SO WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO MEET THE MINIMUM TWO ACRES THEN IF YOU PULL, IF I TAKE OUT THE, THE EASEMENTS? I'M NOT SURE.
I HAVEN'T DONE THAT CALCULATION.
IF YOU TAKE OUT THE BUFFER AND THE ROAD, YOU'RE NOT SURE IF I TAKE OUT YES, I'D HAVE TO DO SOME MATH TO, TO VERIFY IF I TOOK THE BUFFER EASEMENTS AND THE ROAD OUT.
IF I COULD STILL MAINTAIN TWO ACRE LOTS FOR SIX LOTS.
I KNOW IF YOU TAKE THE A HUNDRED FOOT COMMON AREA ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD IS NOT INCLUDED IN AT ACREAGE THAT WE HAD, BUT IT DID INCLUDE THAT 25 FOOT BUFFER EASEMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME? ALRIGHT FOLKS, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS.
UM, WE'VE BEEN AT THIS A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR AND A HALF.
WE'RE GONNA TAKE 10 MINUTE RECESS.
WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WANNA TALK AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WHEN THE BIG HAND IS ON THE NINE FOR THE TRUIT CASE.
THOSE BUFFERS WERE OUTSIDE OF THAT.
SO CAN I JUST, BECAUSE TRUST ME, I THOUGHT ABOUT OWNERSHIP OF, SO I MEAN, I TOOK THE SAME LANGUAGE AND SO THE TWO OF US, UM, AND THAN I, WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU COULD DO IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE NUMBERS WILL WORK.
I MEAN, IF, IF THEY WANT ME TO TAKE THE ROAD EASEMENT OUT AND THE BUFFER EASEMENTS OUT, I PROBABLY CAN'T GET SIX O'CLOCK.
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THAT'S KIND OF COOL.SO CAN I GO AHEAD AND START OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS? UH, JUST THERE'S SOME NEW FACES IN THE ROOM.
SO JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW THESE, THESE GO.
UM, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
YOU CAN, UM, YOU CAN SECEDE UP TWO MINUTES OF YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE.
SO IF YOU COME UP AND SAY, I WANNA SUCCEED, MY TIME AT TWO MINUTES GOES FOR A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES, UH, TO ANY PRESENTER, UH, WE ASK THAT YOU COME UP IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HERE FOR THIS CASE OR THE OTHER, BUT IF, IF IT'S IT, IT'S REALLY HELPS IF YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK, IF YOU COULD COME AND FILL IN THE FIRST ROW.
SO THIS WAY WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR PEOPLE TO WALK OVER EACH OTHER.
JUST KIND OF OF HELPS US, UH, GET EVERYBODY HOME A LITTLE QUICKER AND GET EVERYBODY HEARD A LITTLE QUICKER.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
TURN THE MIC DOWN FOR PRESS, PRESS THE RED BUTTON THERE.
TURN THE MIC ON, ON THE BOTTOM.
DOUG KNAPP, 2337 WHEATLAND DRIVE.
AND I'M GONNA SECEDE MY MINUTES TO DOUG.
AND I'M PAMELA PACK 2354 WHEATLAND DRIVE.
IN MY TIME TONIGHT, I HOPE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION AND IMAGES OF THREE AREAS OF CONCERN.
AN OVERVIEW OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AFFECTED BY THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, ROCKFORD ROAD, AND THE DANGERS IT PRESENTS FOR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
IF THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED, AND HOW THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AFFECTS OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS, IMPACT ON WILDLIFE AND DISRUPTION OF NATURAL HABITAT.
THIS IS MANNEQUIN ROAD RUNNING UP FROM BROAD STREET PASSING SYCAMORE CREEK, TUCKAHOE
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BRIDGE AND WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL FARMLAND UP TO OUR PARTICULAR AREA HERE.THE PROPOSED, PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS RIGHT HERE, FORD'S SUBDIVISION HERE.
WHEATLAND IS HERE AND OFTEN LEFT OUT OF PRESENTATIONS.
AND THE STAFF DID NOT MENTION THIS, BUT ONE OF THE AREAS VERY MUCH AFFECTED BY ROCKFORD ROAD IS WINDY RUN.
ROCKFORD ROAD IS A DEAD END AT WINDY RUN.
THERE ARE 80 HOUSEHOLDS FOR WHICH ROCKFORD ROAD IS THE ONLY OUTLET TO MANNEQUIN ROAD.
THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.
ROCKFORD ROAD IS A NARROW TWO LANE COUNTRY ROAD WITH SOME SMALL HILLS AND BLIND CURVES TO ENTER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU ENTER OFF OF ROCKFORD ROAD AND YOU HIT A BLIND TURN RIGHT HERE YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND YOU HIT A HILL RIGHT BEFORE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN A SHARP, ANOTHER BLIND CURVE RIGHT THERE.
AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU SOME MORE OF THAT BLIND CURVE, NOT NOT WORKING.
AH, ROCKFORD ROAD IS A VERY NARROW COUNTRY ROAD, ONLY 20 FEET WIDE.
IT CAN'T BE WIDENED BECAUSE OF I 64 ON ONE SIDE AND OUR PRECIOUS WETLANDS ON THE OTHER.
MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS WALK ON ROCKFORD ROAD.
THERE IS NO ROOM FOR WALKERS IF CARS OR TRUCKS ARE COMING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
THIS SHOWS A HILL THAT IS IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AS YOU HEAD WEST ON ROCKFORD ROAD.
THIS IS A VERY POTENTIAL PROBLEM.
THIS IS THE BLIND CURVE HEADING EAST.
UM, THIS IS THE BLIND CURVE THAT FRIGHTENS ME IF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED.
THE BLIND CURVE THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS RIGHT IN THIS AREA HERE AND THAT'S HEADING EAST.
I HOPE YOU CAN VISUALIZE THE DANGER THAT THIS PRESENTS.
THIS IS A PHOTO OF THE BLIND CURVE HEADING EAST.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO SEE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS CURVE AS YOU'RE HEADING DOWN THIS, THIS AREA.
AND YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD OF SUN DELAYS WHEN TRAVELING EAST TOWARD RICHMOND ON I 64 OR EVEN BROAD STREET IN EASTERN STANDARD TIME DURING RUSH HOUR.
AS YOU APPROACH THIS CURVE JUST AROUND THE CURVE WHERE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ENTRANCE AND EXIT WILL BE, THE SUN HITS YOU RIGHT IN THE EYE.
I'VE EXPERIENCED THIS HUNDREDS OF TIMES AS I'VE COMMUTED TO RICHMOND IN THE MORNING.
THIS IS ANOTHER ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.
I WORRY ABOUT A SCHOOL BUS BEING AROUND THIS BLIND CURVE, PICKING UP CHILDREN FROM A NEW DEVELOPMENT.
WHEN MY DAUGHTER WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, SHE WAS ROUNDING THIS CURVE ONE MORNING AND WAS BLINDED BY THE SUN.
MY NEIGHBOR, WHO WAS TAKING HIS SON TO DAYCARE, ALSO HAD DIFFICULTY SEEING THROUGH HIS WINDSHIELD AND HAD PULLED PARTIALLY ONTO THE GRASS, CLEANED HIS WINDSHIELD.
MY DAUGHTER DIDN'T SEE HIS CAR SMASHED INTO THE REAR END AND CAREENED INTO THE CENTER OF ROCKFORD ROAD BLOCKING BOTH LANES OF TRAFFIC.
THANK GOD NO ONE WAS HURT, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH WORSE.
AND BY THE WAY, MY DAUGHTER COULD HAVE RECEIVED A RECKLESS DRIVING CITATION THAT DAY.
BUT A GLANDS SHERIFF'S DEPUTY AGREED THAT BECAUSE OF THE SUN, NO ONE COULD SEE WHAT WAS IN FRONT OF THEM.
SO THERE ARE MANY PROBLEMS WITH ROCKFORD ROAD, WHICH WILL BE MAGNIFIED IF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED.
THE BLIND CURVES, THE HILLS, THE SPEED, THE LACK OF SPACE FOR WALKERS, NO SPACE FOR ROAD WIDENING.
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AND THE SUN DELAYS IF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED.I WONDER WHAT CONSEQUENCES WILL OCCUR WHEN ROCKFORD ROAD IS BLOCKED BY AN ACCIDENT.
WHAT IF AT THE SAME TIME A NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE CATCHES FIRE AND FIRE TRUCKS CAN'T GET ACCESS TO THE FIRE? WHAT HAPPENS IF A NEIGHBOR HAS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY AND FIRE AND RESCUE CAN'T GET ACCESS TO THE HOME? REMEMBER, THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.
THE CONSEQUENCES COULD BE TRAGIC AND THEY CAN'T BE IGNORED.
IMAGINE FOR A MOMENT THAT WE REMOVE ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT AND WE RETURN TO HOW THE PROPERTY IS TODAY.
THERE ARE THE PRECIOUS WETLANDS AND TREES SURROUNDING THE AREA, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS AN OPEN FIELD, WHICH IS THE HABITAT FOR HUNDREDS OF ANIMALS IN PEACEFUL SETTING FOR NEIGHBORS WHOSE PROPERTY ABUTS THE AREA.
I EXPECT IT HAS BEEN THIS WAY FOR MANY, MANY DECADES.
ONE LOCAL RESIDENT IS A WHITE BUCK, AND IN THIS MEADOW RIGHT THERE, THAT IS NOT A DOG.
THAT IS NOT A GOAT, THAT IS A WHITE DEER.
THAT'S A PHOTO THAT I TOOK OF THAT WHITE DEER IN THE BACKYARD OF MY HOUSE.
QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS IN OUR RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL CHANGE THE BEAUTY AND PEACEFUL NATURE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOREVER AND DO IRREPARABLE DAMAGE TO WILDLIFE THAT SHARES OUR SPACE.
CAN WE CHANGE THE VIDEO REAL QUICKLY? VIDEO.
DON'T COUNT THIS AGAINST HIM 'CAUSE I'M A LITTLE BIT AWKWARD.
ONE OF OUR MORE FAMOUS RESIDENTS.
I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE PERMANENT CONSEQUENCES THAT APPROVING THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BRING.
I ASK THAT YOU VOTE NO ON THIS ZONING CHANGE AND NOT UPSET OUR RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU A VIDEO I TOOK AT OUR DAUGHTER'S HOUSE IN AUGUST OF 2020 AFTER A SUMMER STORM.
THEIR HOUSE IS LOCATED AT 2355 WHEATLAND DRIVE, WHICH IS NINE HOUSES DOWN WHEATLAND ON THE LEFT.
YOU'RE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE ROAD.
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THIS HAS HAPPENED AT LEAST TWICE IN THE FIVE YEARS WE HAVE LIVED IN THE WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION.THE APPLICANT STATED THIS DEVELOPMENT WON'T MAKE THINGS WORSE AND IT MIGHT IMPROVE THE FLOODING ISSUES.
WHAT HAPPENS IF IT DOES MAKE IT WORSE? THE ROCKFORD PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY BY RIGHTED FOR TWO HOUSES.
CHANGING THE ZONING COULD MAKE THE FLOODING WORSE AND IT COULD AFFECT NUMEROUS HOMES IN THE WHEATLAND.
WHEN THAT WATER WAS DOING THAT, IT WAS GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION.
SO WE JUST TOOK THAT VIDEO TO SEND THEM GOING, HEY, THIS IS YOUR HOUSE.
UM, THEREFORE I OPPOSED THIS ZONING REQUEST.
GENTLEMEN, LADIES, NATHAN SCHNEIDER.
SECOND PIECE OF PROPERTY AS YOU COME OFF ROCKWOOD ROAD INTO WHEATLAND.
THE FLOODING THAT WAS DESCRIBED IN THE VIDEO WAS THE FLOODING THAT I WAS INTRODUCED TO UPON ARRIVAL, UH, I RETIRED FROM THE NAVY AFTER 40 YEARS, SHOWED UP AT MY NEW PROPERTY AND THAT'S WHAT I GOT.
THE PROPERTY BEHIND US IS A BEAUTIFUL FIELD.
UM, THEY MAY OR MAY NOT APPROVE IT.
I HEAR DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER THE RUNOFF IS REALLY FROM 64 OR NOT.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT, WHETHER IT'S DAMNED UP OR NOT.
BUT I DON'T HEAR ANYBODY REALLY DOING ANY RESEARCH WITH, VIA THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION TO FIGURE OUT IF IT IS OR ISN'T.
SO WE'RE GONNA SUFFER REGARDLESS AND WITH NO COM NO PROMISES OF HOW IT'S GONNA BE.
I RECOMMEND DISAPPROVAL AND I GIVE MY REMAINDER OF MY TIME TO MR. ALLISON.
IT DOES YOU, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GIVE COMMENTS, SORRY.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES, SIR.
UH, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED TONIGHT.
HEARING CHANGES ALREADY COMING IN AT THE LAST MINUTE.
YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD, THAT SHOULD RAISE, RAISE SOME FLAGS RIGHT THERE.
UH, YOU KNOW THAT, THAT THERE'S BEEN TWO DELAYS TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ALREADY.
AND THEN YOU'RE JUST GETTING SOME CHANGES TONIGHT.
I'VE GOT TWO, TWO REASONS THAT I'M AGAINST THIS, UH, PROPOSAL.
UH, ONE'S PERSONAL, ONE'S PUBLIC.
UH, MY NEIGHBORS ARE THE BENEFICIARIES OF THAT.
SO NOT ONLY IS THERE PROBLEMS COMING FROM 64, BUT THERE'S PROBLEMS COMING FROM THE FIELD ITSELF.
AND IT COMES DOWN INTO MY BACKYARD, INTO THAT DRAINAGE DITCH AND THEN DOWN DOWNSTREAM TO MY NEIGHBORS.
UH, 10 YEARS AGO I TOOK PICTURES OF THAT SAME THING AND, UH, SUCCESSFULLY FOUGHT, UH, REAL ESTATE, UH, LAND ASSESSMENT AND WON THAT.
'CAUSE I SAID I CAN'T USE THAT PROPERTY BEHIND THAT DRAINAGE DITCH.
SO THE COUNTY AGREED THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM THEN.
UH, AND THEN I'VE HEARD BACK AND FORTH THE DRAINAGE PONDS MAY OR MAY NOT TAKE CARE OF IT.
I DON'T LIKE MAY OR MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE YES.
YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, MANY MORE OF THEM WILL ATTEST TO THAT SAME PROBLEM.
UH, IT SEEMS A SIGNIFICANT REQUEST THAT THIS IS THE PUBLIC ONE.
YOU KNOW, TO GO FROM A TWO TO R ONE, YOU KNOW, HAD IT STAYED A TWO, IT COULD HAVE SPLIT TO TWO, HAD IT BEEN RURAL, UH, RURAL RESIDENTIAL, POSSIBLY COULD HAVE GOT THREE LOTS, YOU KNOW, OUT OF, OUT OF THAT.
BUT I THINK IT SETS A BAD PRECEDENT TO JUMP FROM A TWO TO R ONE IN A RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
'CAUSE THIS WAS THEN SET THE PRECEDENT FOR THE NEXT, UH, BIG PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT COMES IN.
AND THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PUT ONE AND A HALF ACRES.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH R ONE.
UH, I THINK MR. LUMPKINS MENTIONED IT, THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GAINING THAT MINIMUM OF TWO ACRES BY GOING INTO THE MIDDLE OF THAT ROAD.
WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE IF THAT ROAD THEN BECOMES PUBLIC? THEY'RE NO LONGER TWO ACRE LOTS.
I UNDERSTAND THE, THIS IS MY CLOSING STATEMENT.
I UNDERSTAND THE RISK IN PURCHASING PROPERTY AND THE DEVELOPING PROPERTY.
I TOOK A RISK 20 YEARS AGO WHEN I PURCHASED MY PROPERTY, UH, AND HOPED THAT IT WOULD REMAIN RURAL.
THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY TOOK A RISK IN PURCHASING IT WITH THE HOPE, MAYBE ONE DAY OF HAVING IT REZONED AND DEVELOPING IT AND MAKING SOME RETIREMENT MONEY.
THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES EITHER WAY, BUT AT LEAST WITH THIS FORUM, I GET TO VOICE MY OPINION.
I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A STAND.
IF WE TRULY BELIEVE THE INTENT OF THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN REGARDING RURAL ENHANCEMENT
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AREAS APPROVING OUR ONE DIRECTLY FROM A TWO WOULD SET THAT BAD PRECEDENT.UH, AS SUCH, I STAND OPPOSED TO THIS PROPOSED REZONING REQUEST.
UH, SCOTT NER 7 1 1 ROCKFORD ROAD.
AND I THINK I'M ONE OF TWO PEOPLE REPRESENTED HERE ON ROCKFORD ROAD.
UH, I SAW 'EM COME IN A LITTLE BIT LATER.
ROCKFORD ROAD IS, UH, I MEAN ON, UH, UH, WINDY RUN IS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, WE'RE IN ON FIRST LOT, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO WHEATLAND.
BUT OUR AREA IS FIVE TO 16 ACRES.
AND I DON'T RECALL MS. SHERRY IF, IF IT'S RR OR R ONE OR EIGHT TWO OR WHAT, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER.
UH, AND IF, IF THAT'S THE CASE, WE ARE, UM, UH, A DEVELOPMENT THAT IS THERE.
AND, UH, THERE'S NO REASON FOR IT TO GO TO, IN MY MIND, TO GO TO SOMETHING THAT'S, UM, OUTSIDE OF WHAT'S ALREADY, UH, PRESENT, PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY AS A, UH, A 16 ACRE LOT OR, UH, TWO EIGHT ACRE LOTS.
UH, IF IT WANTS TO DEVELOP TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN THAT, I WOULD OPPOSE THAT.
DENNIS PAC 2354 WHEATLAND DRIVE.
I'VE GOT THREE MAIN AREAS THAT, UH, I WANTED TO BRING UP.
ONE WAS THE ROAD, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN BROUGHT UP.
ADDING MORE CARS TO IT, IT'S MORE DANGEROUS.
AND AS ACCIDENTS OCCUR, WE'VE HAD TREES THAT HAVE GONE OVER.
GETTING EMERGENCY VEHICLES IN AND OUT IS ALREADY DIFFICULT.
SO ANYTHING DONE WITH ADDITIONAL HOUSES.
AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ADDITIONAL HOUSES ALREADY BUILT OUT ON, UH, WINDY RUN.
UH, ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS THE WATER, THE WATER TABLE.
UH, LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, WE ASKED, OKAY, WELL WHAT IS THAT GONNA DO TO OUR WELLS? AND THEY SAID, WELL, THERE'S NO WAY OF TESTING THAT.
WE DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO HAVE ANY ISSUE.
SO I THINK YOUR WELLS WILL BE FINE.
WELL, I HATE THAT I HAVE A VERY EXPENSIVE HOUSE, AND THERE'S A CHANCE THAT PUTTING IN MORE HOUSES AND SUBTRACTING WATER FROM THE WATER TABLE THERE COULD JUST COMPLETELY LEAVE ME WITHOUT ANY WATER FOR A PERIOD OF TIME IN THE SUMMER OR, OR WHENEVER.
UH, SO THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME THAT THERE IS NO TRUE ANSWER TO THAT.
AND I MAY END UP LOSING MY WATER IN THE VALUE OF MY HOUSE.
I'VE PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THAT HOUSE, AND I HATE TO HAVE THAT IMPACT.
UH, MY HOUSE WITHIN THE WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION, UH, AND THEN ALSO, YEAH, WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT THEY PUT A ROAD IN THERE AND THEY BLOCKED IT BACK.
THAT BASICALLY WAS A RETENTION POND.
THEN THEY PUT IN THE SMALL PIPE, WHICH REGULATED THE WATER COMING OUT OF THAT.
AND THEN TONIGHT WHAT I HEAR IS WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT OUT AND ALLOW ALL THAT WATER FROM THAT WATER SHED AREA TO HIT THAT CREEK AND TO COME INTO THE WHEATLAND SUBDIVISION.
THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A RETENTION POND THERE.
AND YOU SEE WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THAT OUT AND ALL THE WATER FROM THE WHEATLAND OR FROM THAT WATER RETENTION AREA IS GOING TO COME AND HIT WHEATLAND, IT IS GOING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE.
SO I DON'T SEE HOW IN THE WORLD HE SAID, YOU KNOW, FROM THE FIELD, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO RESTRICT SOME OF IT, BUT FROM THE WETLANDS AREA THERE, IT'S GONNA MAKE THINGS WORSE.
OPENING THAT UP AND NOT ALLOWING THE WATER TO SPREAD OUT INTO THAT AREA.
SO I AM DEFINITELY AGAINST IT.
I LIVE AT 24 0 3 WHEATLAND DRIVE.
THE, UM, THAT IS LOTS ONE THROUGH SEVEN OF SECTION A OF WHEATLAND DRIVE IS THE, UH, ADJOINING PROPERTY LINE TO THIS 16 ACRE PARCEL.
I LIVED ALMOST DEAD CENTER OF IT.
UH, MY COMPANY, AMERICAN REALTY INVESTORS, PREVIOUSLY OWNED THIS PROPERTY.
UH, AND WHEN I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, I INTENDED TO DO EXACTLY WHAT MR. MOORE'S PROPOSED DOING.
UH, HOWEVER, DUE TO AGE AND HEALTH, I DECIDED TO LET SOMEONE ELSE PURSUE THIS DEVELOPMENT.
AND MR. MOORE MADE ME AN ACCEPTABLE OFFER, AND I SOLD IT TO HIM IN 2022.
AND I'D OWNED IT ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.
UM, I NO LONGER HAVE ANY FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY.
THIS IS NOT WHY I'M SAYING THIS.
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HERE BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED WITH GOOD QUALITY HOMES THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE WHEATLAND FARMS COMMUNITY.MY WIFE AND I LIVE ON LOT THREE A, WHICH IS, AS I SAID, NEAR THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY LINE THAT WE SHARE WITH THE 16 ACRE PARCEL.
UH, WHEATLAND, UH, FARMS ONLY HAS SEVEN LOTS AGAIN, THAT ARE ACTUALLY ADJOINING A 16 ACRE PARCEL.
UH, AND WE, WE OCCUPY ABOUT 14% OF THAT FRONTAGE.
AND AS FOR WATER DRAINING FROM THE 16 ACRES, I'VE, I HAVE BEEN THERE 23 YEARS.
THE FILM THAT YOU SAW HAPPEN ONE TIME IN 23 YEARS.
UH, THE I EX I EXPECT WATER TO COME, UH, THROUGH OUR PROPERTY.
BUT IT'S, AND IT'S BECAUSE THERE IS AN EASEMENT.
THERE'S A 16 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT THROUGH LOTS, ONE THROUGH NINE OF WHEATLAND FARMS. SO ANYONE HAD DEVELOPED A LOT ON WHEATLAND FARMS, KNEW THAT THAT WATER WAS GONNA COME THROUGH THERE.
THEY KNEW THAT THAT, THAT, THAT E THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT WAS THROUGH THERE.
UH, AND, UH, GIVEN, GIVEN THE SHORTNESS OF TIME, WELL, SHORTNESS TO SHORTNESS, EXCUSE ME.
BUT, UH, MY WHOLE CAREER HAS BEEN IN REAL ESTATE FROM 1966 TO 2018.
AND BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS CONSIDERATE THAT I THINK THAT THIS PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT IS TOTALLY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS ALREADY THERE.
THAT WHOLE AREA IS SURROUNDED WITH TWO ACRE LOT COMP COMPLETELY ON, ON ALL THREE SIDES.
THE OTHER SIDE BEING ROCKFORD ROAD, ROCKFORD ROAD IS NOT A DANGEROUS ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THESE PEOPLE ARE GETTING THAT.
UH, AND, UH, IT'S, AND I WOULD, UH, I WOULD BELIEVE THAT IT'S TOTALLY UNFAIR TO REQUIRE MR. MOORE TO DEVELOP HIS SUBDIVISION WITH LOTS THAT ARE LARGER THAN ALL THE LOTS THAT ARE SURROUNDING HIS PROPERTY.
ALL YOUR, YOUR LAST NAME, PLEASE.
UM, I, I THINK EVERYBODY ELSE DID A GOOD JOB.
UM, I COME FROM A FAMILY OF DEVELOPERS.
UM, I'M CAPITALIST THROUGH AND THROUGH.
UM, IT'S THE ONLY MORAL ECONOMIC SYSTEM 'CAUSE IT'S THE ONLY VOLUNTARY ECONOMIC SYSTEM.
UM, THAT SAID, THERE HAS TO BE MORAL FOUNDATION FOR IT.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO, THERE HAS TO BE SOME KINDA MUTUAL BENEFICIAL ARRANGEMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S CUTTING 10 ACRES OFF OF 500 ACRE FARM TO PUT A SMALL TOWN ON THE MAP.
YOU KNOW, DROP A AMAZON, FEDEX, UPS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, EXPEDITE COMMERCE, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS WE'RE SQUEEZING A SMALL AMOUNT OF ACREAGE INTO A, INTO A SPOT THAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED.
AND IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED FOR WHAT, SOME 40, 50 YEARS.
UM, I GUESS MY, MY QUESTION IS WOULD BE TO THE, TO THE OWNER IS, IS WHY OTHER THAN IT'S SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, UNWRITTEN CRIME OF OPPORTUNITY HERE.
UM, WHY COME IN SOMEWHERE WHERE 99%, PROBABLY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE PE PEOPLE, NEIGHBORS, AND NEIGHBORING AREAS ARE AGAINST IT.
WHY ARE WE COMING IN HERE? YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIVE THERE.
AND SO SOME, YOU KNOW, HIGH INCOME FOLKS CAN COME IN AND HAVE THEIR PIECE OF COUNTRY THAT'S NOT SO FAR IN THE COUNTRY, BUT THEY STILL GET A LITTLE BIT OF COUNTRY.
UM, AND YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA PAVE A CUL-DE-SAC DEAD IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR SUBDIVISION.
UM, TO ME IT'S JUST, UH, IT'S THE WISDOM OF THE DECISION.
IT SEEMS A LITTLE UNETHICAL AND MORAL FROM A CAPITALISTIC STANDPOINT.
I, WHERE ARE YOU? I LOVE YOU, BROTHER.
I'M SORRY MR. LANGFIELD, YOU, THIS IS TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.
UM, AND I, AND I, AND I WISH EVERYBODY WELL, I WISH YOU WELL SOMEWHERE ELSE.
ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME.
MY NAME IS PAT HENDY AND, UH, I LIVE AT 2337 WHEATLAND DRIVE.
UH, I WASN'T PREPARED TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT I HEARD A FEW THINGS.
AND ONE IS WHAT CAUSED THE WETLANDS TO OCCUR THERE? AND I'VE ASKED THAT OF RON NANNY, THE MOAN, SOIL WATER ENGINEERS WHO ACTUALLY HAVE RESEARCHED IF THERE'S ANY PIPES, THE HIGHWAY SYSTEM THAT DRAIN THERE.
AND ALL THE ANSWERS I'VE GOTTEN AND THE TIME I'VE SPENT, EVERYBODY'S TOLD
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ME WE REALLY DON'T KNOW.AND SO THE ANSWER IS, THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE WATER IS TO GO IN THERE AND DISTURB THE SOIL AND LOOK AND DO INVESTIGATIONS.
SO WE'RE HERE TO PROTECT THE WETLANDS AND THE JAMES RIVER PURITY AND THE, THE WATERSHED AND ALL THE WATER THAT COMES DOWN INTO THAT MEADOW PERKS DOWN TO ROCKFORD ROAD AND CREATED THAT LITTLE WILDLIFE HABITAT WE CALL THE WETLANDS.
NOW, WHEN YOU PUT IN SIX HOUSES, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, AND THAT'S GONNA SHED THE RAINFALL.
IT WON'T BE DISTRIBUTED IN THAT SAME WAY THAT IT'S FEEDING THE NATURAL HABITAT DOWN THERE, WHICH IS NECESSARY.
IT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE THAT FLOODING FOR YOUR WETLANDS.
WHEN THEY PAVE THE ROAD, WHEN THEY PUT ROOFTOPS IN, MAKE DRIVEWAYS, PEOPLE DO LANDSCAPING.
IT'S, IT'S ALL GONNA DISRUPT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IN OUR NATURALIZED AREA WITH, UH, ALL THE VEGETATION THAT'S GROWN THERE NATURALLY, THE WILDLIFE IS FEEDING ON IT.
IT'S A VIRGINIA NATIVE PLANTS.
IT'S NOT LELAND CYPRUS FROM LANDSCAPING NURSERY.
AND IT, IT'S GONNA DISRUPT THE WHOLE THING.
SO WHAT I WANNA ASK ONE MORE THING IS TO DEFINE THE WORD GENERALLY BECAUSE THE STAFF HAS SAID IT GENERALLY COMPLIES WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WELL, WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.
THE WORD GENERALLY, UH, IT MEANS MAYBE IT'S SOME, THERE'S SOME GOOD IN THERE, BUT THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S NOT RIGHT.
AND THAT MEANS IT'S, IT'S NOT COMPLIANT WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT CAN BE GENERALLY ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
BUT WE'RE SAYING WE'VE BEEN HELD TO WHAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN STATES.
AND WE'VE OPERATED THAT WAY AS A NEIGHBORHOOD AND AS A COUNTY, AS A RURAL COUNTY ALL THESE YEARS.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD MANNEQUIN S SAPE, VIRGINIA.
I HAVE LISTENED, UH, TO THE PRESENTATION BY MR. MOORE OR HIS, HIS PROXY.
UM, AND I HAVE LITTLE BIT OF CONCERNED OVER THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WHEATLAND WAS DEVELOPED WAS IN 1986.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN FORD WAS DEVELOPED IN 1981.
I BELIEVE MY, MY MEMORY'S NOT THAT GREAT.
UM, THE, THE, WE TALK ABOUT THEM NOT HAVING THE SAME STANDARDS, UH, AS THEY DO NOW.
WE HAVE SPENT A REMARKABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AND EFFORT AND ENERGY TO REDEFINE OUR REWRITE OF OUR, OUR ZONING ORDINANCES.
THE, WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR IS R ONE.
WHAT THE DEFINITION OF THE STATEMENT OF INTENT FOR R ONE IS NOT FOR A RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
THAT'S WHY THERE IS NO, UM, IN A TWO.
AND IN RR THERE WASN'T REALLY A A, A LOT SIZE WASN'T PART OF IT BECAUSE THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE.
THERE'S NO OPEN SPACE HERE AT ALL.
THEY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ONLY LOOKING AT THE ONE ITEM.
AND THAT'S THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES.
HAVE SOME OF 'EM HAVE TWO AC LOTS, BUT THAT'S NOT THE PAINTING.
THE FULL PICTURE IS FORD'S HAS GOT LOTS OF OPEN SPACE.
THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT PONDS, THEY'VE GOT, UH, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
AND THEN ONLY A VERY FEW OF THEM.
AND THEY WERE PART OF A PARENT TRACK.
A PARENT TRACK IS NECESSARY TO KEEP OUR PRESERVE, OUR AGRICULTURAL PARTS.
WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN ALL THE AGRICULTURAL PROPERTIES ARE EATEN UP? UM, HOW ARE WE GOING TO SUSTAIN OUR LIFE'S? YOU KNOW, OUR WILDLIFE IS REAL IMPORTANT.
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IMPORTANT AND SO IS OUR AGRICULTURAL CHARACTER.UM, I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE DENY THIS ONE BECAUSE R ONE, THE IN HAS DEFINED IN THE REWRITE, UH, THAT JUST TOOK PLACE IN 2020.
DOES NOT SAY THAT IT BELONGS IN A RES UH, A RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
I'M SORRY, MY BRAIN IS GOING DEAF.
ANYWAYS, YOU HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
I LOVE Y'ALL AND, AND I HOPE YOU WILL MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.
CORIN LEIS, 2 3 5 9 WHEATLAND DRIVE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO STATE MY OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED BY SOME OF THE OTHERS.
MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS WITH THE PRECEDENT THAT THIS WOULD SET FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS TO COME IN BUYING INTO A TWO PROPERTIES WITH THE INTENT OF REZONING TO R ONE, WHICH WOULD EVENTUALLY TURN OUR WHOLE BEAUTIFUL AREA INTO WHAT WE FEAR THE MOST SHORT PUMP.
UM, SO THAT'S OBVIOUSLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
BUT BEYOND THAT, IF IT DOES GO THROUGH, I'M HOPING THAT THERE WILL BE CLEARER DIRECTION WITH HOW THE, UH, ROAD IS GONNA BE HANDLED.
ROCKFORD ROAD WITH THE CONSTRUCTION.
UM, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY HE CAN BUILD SOME HOUSES AS IS.
SO CONSTRUCTION IS A CONCERN, UH, WITH VEHICLES ON THAT ROAD.
UM, AS PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, IT'S THE ONLY WAY IN AND OUT IF THERE ARE A LINE OF CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS.
AM I GONNA HAVE TO WAIT 20 MINUTES TO PULL INTO MY NEIGHBORHOOD EVERY DAY? WHO KNOWS? 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT REALLY BEEN STATED HOW THEY'RE GONNA HANDLE THAT.
UM, AND ALSO THE CONSTRUCTION HOURS.
MONDAY TO SATURDAY, 7:00 AM TO 8:00 PM I HAVE A TODDLER AND A NEWBORN ON THE WAY.
UH, 8:00 PM TREES GETTING CHOMPED UP IN MY BACKYARD.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A ROUGH BEDTIME TO ME.
UM, SO AS I SAID, I OPPOSE THE REZONING.
OBVIOUSLY NO ONE'S TRYING TO STOP THIS PERSON FROM BUILDING HOUSES.
UM, BUT I THINK THE ZONING SHOULD MATCH WHAT IS SURROUNDING, WHICH IS RR AND A TWO.
SO IF IT COULD STAY THAT WAY OR BE REZONED TO RR, I THINK THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.
AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE HERE WOULD AGREE.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, SEEING NO KNOW IT, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK TO ANYTHING THAT THEY HEARD? AGAIN, ANDREW BROWNING, YOUNG BLOOD, TYLER AND ASSOCIATES.
I'LL TRY TO, TO HIT SOME OF THE BIGGER POINTS.
SO WITH THE ISSUES REGARDING FLOODING, UH, STATE LAW WILL REQUIRE THAT WE HAVE TO ALLOW LESS WATER TO RUN OFF OF THAT SITE AFTER IT'S DEVELOPED THAN IT IS TODAY.
SO WE WILL BE, UH, IMPROVING THE FLOODING SITUATION WITHIN THE WETLANDS.
UH, THE WETLANDS THAT ARE THERE, WE ARE PROTECTING THOSE WETLANDS.
THE PLAN IS NOT TO IMPACT THOSE WETLANDS.
UH, THE, THE, THAT PIPE UNDER THAT ROAD IS KIND OF ACTING LIKE A DETENTION BASIN.
AND I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT.
WE, THE PLAN IS TO LEAVE THAT THERE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GO IN AND MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT BECAUSE THAT IS KIND OF DETAINING, UH, THE RUNOFF OF BEFORE IT GETS TO THAT SITE.
UM, THERE'S AN EASEMENT ON THE WHEATLAND PROPERTY.
THERE'S NOT A DRAINAGE EASEMENT ACROSS THIS PROPERTY.
THE WATER DIDN'T COME FROM 64 TO GET TO THE WHEATLAND.
THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIRES THAT IF THERE'S AN OPEN CHANNEL WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, THEY HAVE TO PUT A DRAINAGE EASEMENT OVER THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT DRAINAGE EASEMENT WAS, WAS WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT DOES NOT EXTEND UP TO 64.
UM, THE, THE LOCATION OF THAT ENTRANCE, WE'VE HAD TO, UH, STUDY THE SITE, SITE LINE, SITE DISTANCE.
WE WILL MEET SITE DISTANCE ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD AT THAT ENTRANCE LOCATION BASED ON THE SPEED LIMIT OF ROCKFORD ROAD.
UH, THERE, THERE WILL BE SUBSTANTIAL OPEN SPACE IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED NOW TO BE IN COMMON AREA IS TWO POINT A HALF ACRES, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 16%.
AND THAT WAS NOT INCLUDING THOSE BUFFER EASEMENTS, WHICH, WHICH ARE PROBABLY ANOTHER ACRE OR SO THERE.
SO QUITE A BIT OF IT WILL BE PRESERVED IN OPEN SPACE.
UH, AS FAR AS SETTING A REZONING PRECEDENT, I'VE HEARD MANY TIMES THAT REZONINGS DON'T SET A PRECEDENT THAT EACH CASE IS LOOKED AT ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT'LL SET A REZONING PRECEDENT AND, UH, CONCERNING THE, THE WELL WATER, UH, THAT IS DIFFICULT THING TO MEASURE, HOW MUCH GROUNDWATER, HOW MUCH WATER IS IN THE AQUIFERS BELOW US.
FOR, FOR WELLS, I DID SPEAK TO A FRIEND OF MINE WHO'S A LOCAL, OWNS A LOW LOCAL WELL DRILLING COMPANY AND ASKED, I I KNEW THEY HAD PROBABLY DRILLED WELLS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND
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OR WORKED THERE IN THE PAST.AND HE INDICATED THAT THERE WAS SUBSTANTIAL WATER IN THAT AREA, AND MOST OF THOSE WELLS WEREN'T THAT DEEP TO GET TO THE WATER TABLE.
AND IT DIDN'T THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY ISSUE WITH, WITH SIX ADDITIONAL WELLS IN THAT LOCATION.
ON LOTS, TWO ACRE LOTS IS WHAT'S SURROUNDING THERE.
UH, I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF THE MAJOR CONCERNS.
UM, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE.
ANYTHING AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE TO WORK? OKAY, DON'T GO TOO FAR.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SINCE THERE PROFFERS, HAVE YOU MADE ANY CHANGES SINCE YOUR REMARKS TONIGHT THAT ARE DIFFERENT? SO FOR INSTANCE, YOU JUST SAID, AND THAT ONE ACRE FROM BRUER EASEMENTS, BUT RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS CASE THAT SAYS THOSE BUFFERS AROUND THE LOTS WILL BE OWNED BY THE HOMEOWNERS.
SO IS THAT, ARE YOU, ARE YOU MAKING, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY WHATEVER IS YOU'RE DOING FINE THAT THOSE, THEY WOULD, THE, THE EASEMENTS WOULD BE ON THE LOT AND THEY WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE ASSOCIATION, BUT THAT COMMON AREA ALONG THE AREA, ALONG ROCKFORD ROAD WAS A COMMON AREA WOULD BE OWNED BY THE ASSOCIATION.
SO THE, AND THE AREAS WHERE THE BMPS WOULD BE WOULD BE COMMON AREA THAT OWNED BY THE ASSOCIATION.
AND THEN THE BUFFERS IN THE BACK OF THE LOTS ARE OWNED BY THE HOMEOWNERS.
THAT'S MAINTAINED BY, THAT'S WHAT THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN SHOWS.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING.
I JUST WANTED TO CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THEY WERE CONSIDERING WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT'S BEFORE THEM NOW AFTER, YOU KNOW, SOME CHANGES.
WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE BOARD, MR. FODDERS? YEAH.
UM, BASED ON ALL THE OPINIONS WE'VE HEARD, UM, AND THE, AND THE INFORMATION WE'VE GOTTEN, UM, THERE IS A SLIDE IN THE PRESENTATION SLIDE NINE THAT TALKS ABOUT CONSISTENCY WITH THE AREA THE APPLICANT USED, THE TERM COMPATIBLE.
UM, HOWEVER, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS NUMBERS BASED.
I, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE NUMBERS AND CONDITIONS AND ASSESS AND ANALYZE AS A BOARD.
AND I DON'T SEE THE COMPATIBILITY AND CONSISTENCY THAT WAS IS BEING PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, IT'S NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE TCSD, PREVIOUS APPLICATION THAT WAS APPROVED.
FIVE OH IS UH, HAS PUBLIC WATER AND UH, SEWER, WHICH IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
UM, MORE ATTENDEES TO THE PUBLIC MEETING.
THE SECOND TIME YOU ACTUALLY GOT 40 PEOPLE VERSUS THE ORIGINAL 28.
UM, PC ONLY RECOMMENDED THIS THREE TWO, AND THAT'S NO, NOT A RESOUNDING YES.
UM, A PRIVATE ROAD PROPOSED VERSUS A PUBLIC ROAD IN THE PREVIOUS YES, THAT THE BOARD CAME TO.
UM, I DON'T LIKE THE THRESHOLD THAT'S BEING USED FOR THE WATER RUNOFF.
UM, 80% VERSUS IF ALL WOODED IS NOT A VERY HIGH THRESHOLD, IN MY OPINION, IF ALL WOODED IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN CLEAR CUT WITH DEVELOPMENT DONE, UM, AT A, YOU KNOW, EVEN MEDIUM DENSITY IN MY OPINION.
UM, SO SOMETIMES WE CAN DISAGREE WITH STATE STANDARDS AND NATIONAL STANDARDS.
UM, AND LEMME SEE IF ANYTHING ELSE, BUT I MEAN THERE'S JUST, I, I BELIEVE IN FAIRNESS AND CAPITALISM AS MR. LAGERFELD SAID.
UM, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THE COMPAR THAT THAT THAT THIS IS COMPARABLE TO OTHER THINGS WE'VE APPROVED IN THE PAST.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO, WE'RE NOT A NO TO EVERY APPLICA APPLICATION, BUT WE'VE GOTTA SEE THE REASON AND THE RATIONALE BEHIND ALL THESE PROJECTS AND NOT JUST THE NUMBERS.
SO, I MEAN, THERE, THERE WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY CURRENT OPPORTUNITIES FROM THIS APPLICANT.
THEY BOUGHT A PROPERTY WITH BUYRIGHT PROVISIONS.
SO YOU MIGHT SEE TWO PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, TWO LOTS ON THAT.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE BOARD CAN INTERFERE WITH.
BUT FOR ALL THE REASONS I LISTED, UM, I, UH, I I TEND TO LEAN WITH THE OPPOSITION.
DID YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? UH, I GET MY RIGHT PAPER.
UM, BASED ON THE INFORMATION, WAIT, LEMME MAKE SURE I'M ON THE RIGHT ONE.
BASED ON THE INFORMATION, THE STAFF REPORT AND FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD DENY REZONING CASE RZ 20 23 6 FOR 16.05, NINE ACRES ON TAX MAP NUMBER 46 DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 11 DASH A FROM A TWO TO R ONE WITH PROFFER CONDITIONS ON THE GROUNDS THAT IT IS NOT KEEPING WITH PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE, GENERAL, WE WELFARE AND GOOD ZONING PRACTICES.
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YOU MR. POTTERS.SECOND MS.
SO THIS IS AN INTERESTING CASE IN THAT, UM, I DROVE OUT THERE, WALKED THE PROPERTY THAT IT'S, IT, IT FITS EVERYTHING THAT'S OUT THERE.
IT, IT'S PLOPPED DOWN, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT THERE.
UM, THE CHALLENGE I HAVE IS THE MESSAGE THAT WE HAVE BEEN SENDING TO THE FOUR YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THIS BOARD, WHICH IS WE WILL, WE, WE ARE GONNA LISTEN TO OUR CONSTITUENTS TO GROW GRACEFULLY, KEEP GUCH AND RULE AND OUR STRATEGY TO THIS POINT.
AND YOU CAN ARGUE THE STRATEGY, IT NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
UM, I THINK WE KNOW THAT WHAT WE TRY TO DO WITH THE CENTERVILLE PLAN AND THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SAY RIGHT NOW GROWTH IS CONCENTRATED IN OUR GROWTH AREAS.
THIS IS NOT IN OUR GROWTH AREA.
AND WHILE I DO FEEL LIKE, UM, I, I THINK THE LOT SIZES ARE COMPLETELY APPROPRIATE, I THINK THE ROAD IS FINE.
I THINK YOU'RE MAKING, I THINK THE FOLKS IN WHEATLAND SHOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS.
'CAUSE IT WOULD MAKE THE DRAINAGE BETTER.
IT'D YOUR, YOUR PROPERTIES WOULD BE IN BETTER SHAPE WITHOUT THIS, UH, OR WITH THIS PROJECT.
HOWEVER, BASED ON WHERE OUR CONSTITUENTS JUST REELECTED US TO, WHICH IS GROW GRACEFULLY, KEEP GLAND RULE, WE NEED TO, AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY NO.
AND IT'S, IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE AT THIS TIME.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE A THOUSAND LOTS THAT COULD BE BUILT ON TOMORROW.
THEY'RE ALREADY APPROVED IN THIS COUNTY, A THOUSAND LESS.
THAT'S 10% THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY GROW ON.
SO WE NEED TO BE FOCUSING ON THOSE AT PREVIOUS BOARDS FROM DECADES AGO, HAVE APPROVED, UM, AND TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
MS. MR. PETERSON? YEAH, MR. CHAIR.
UM, YEAH, THIS IS A, A LITTLE BIT OF A TRICKY ONE, UH, FOR A LOT OF THE REASONS YOU JUST MENTIONED.
UM, WE TALK ABOUT ROAD SAFETY.
UM, IF VDOT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT IS THE ONES IN CHARGE OF ROAD SAFETY FOR LINE OF SIGHT, MAKING SURE TREES ARE REMOVED, SROS REMOVED, PEOPLE CAN SEE KEEP, PEOPLE CAN COME AND GO SAFELY.
UM, THERE'S NOT MUCH FEED OUT CAN DO ABOUT THE SUN.
UM, IF WE, IF SUN WAS THE ISSUE, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO CLOSE DOWN HALF THE ROADS, INCLUDING I 64 RIVER ROAD.
I'VE TRAVELED THOSE MORNINGS IN THE EVENINGS AND IT IS VERY HARD TO SEE.
AND I JUST ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO, TO, TO DRIVE CAREFULLY WHEN THAT THOSE CONDITIONS ARE OUT THERE BECAUSE IT IS DANGEROUS, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO A WHOLE LOT ABOUT.
BUT ANYWAY, SO BACK TO ROAD SAFETY.
YOU KNOW, I TURNED NAVE OUT, THE EXPERTS FOR THAT.
WE'VE HEARD BY STATE LAW, THE RUNOFF HAS TO BE EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN THE CURRENT.
AND TO ASSUME THAT THEY WERE NOT GONNA COMPLY WITH STATE LAW ASSUMES THAT AN APPLICANT IS GONNA IGNORE OR VIOLATE STATE LAW IN COMING FORWARD FOR THE APPLICATION.
AND YOU DON'T WANNA PRESUME THE WORST IN PEOPLE.
YOU WANNA PRESUME THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA COMPLY WITH STATE LAW AND DO THE RIGHT THINGS.
UM, SO I, THE WATER RUNOFF, AGAIN, IT'S A, IT'S NOT A STRAIGHTFORWARD ISSUE THAT THAT'S GONNA BE WORSE BECAUSE STATE LAW SAYS IT SHOULDN'T BE.
SO SOME OF THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT TRICKY.
UH, THE TWO ACRES PER, WE LOOKED AT THE MAP, THE SATELLITE VIEW, IF IT'S TWO ACRES ALL AROUND, IF YOU TOOK ALL THE ACRONYMS OUT AND THE RS AND A'S AND ALL THAT AND JUST LOOKED AT A SATELLITE VIEW AND YOU SEE TWO ACRES ALL AROUND, YOU SAY, OKAY, WELL WHAT'S THAT, WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE? WELL, I DON'T KNOW, THEY'RE ALL TWO ACRES, BUT, SO IT IS A LITTLE TRICKY FROM THAT STANDPOINT, BUT THIS BOARD DOES LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS AND, UM, THE, THE EASY PART IS TO HEAR WHAT THE 50 PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT SAID.
THE HARDER PART IS WHAT DO THE OTHER 24,000 THINK, UH, THAT AREN'T HERE? AND, AND WE HAVE TO TRY TO BALANCE THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, BUT I DO ECHO THE CHAIR'S COMMENTS ABOUT GROWING GRACEFULLY AND FOCUSING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHERE IT BELONGS, WHERE THE HIGHER DENSITIES ARE, AND, AND, UH, SO IT BECOMES A LITTLE MORE PROBLEMATIC.
UM, I, I'M NOT SURE I'VE FULLY UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE IS THAT WATER EASEMENT ACROSS THE EXISTING PROPERTIES SO THAT THERE IS, UH, WHAT WAS IT, A 16 FOOT EASEMENT WHERE IF YOU'VE GOT EXISTING WATER DRAINING ACROSS THE PROPERTIES, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY THERE.
UM, AND THEN, AND THEN, SO, SO AGAIN, I GUESS IT'S, UH, WHEN YOU TRY TO BALANCE THESE THINGS OUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE MORE TRICKY AND NOT AS STRAIGHTFORWARD AS SOME OF THE ONES THAT WE'VE HAD COME BEFORE US.
SO THOSE WOULD BE MY COMMENTS.
MR. WATERS, I JUST HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT.
UM, BUT WE, WE'VE, PART OF WHAT WE ARE TASKED WITH AS, AS A BOARD IS GROWING OUR OWN DECISION MAKING GRACEFULLY AS WELL, NOT JUST THE COUNTY.
AND I WOULD SAY ZONING IS THE KEY EXAMPLE OF THAT IS MAKING SURE
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THAT, UM, WE CHANGE AS, AS WE SEE FIT.AND SO I JUST POINT TO, YOU KNOW, A DECISION MADE IN THE 1980S AND THE 1990S MIGHT NOT BE WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IN THE 2020S.
SO, UM, I JUST, I STRESS THAT BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T JUST APPLY TO THIS CASE.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD APPLY TO EVERY CASE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SOMETIMES RELY ON PRECEDENT WHEN WE JUST HAD THE PRECEDENT IS THE ELECTION WE JUST HAD WHERE THE CITIZENS SPOKE.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST A POINT I DIDN'T MAKE EARLIER.
I THINK IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
I'LL SAY, OKAY, THIS, THIS IS A DIFFICULT ONE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO FIND A WAY TO GET TO YES.
I LIKE LOWERING THE BMPS, UM, OFF THE LOTS.
I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT'S FOCUS ON TWO ACRES.
UM, AND, AND MR. SPOON, HOWER, YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE SAID WE'RE GONNA GROW IN THE DESIGNATED AREAS.
UH, WHEN, WHEN THIS FIRST CAME TO US, BEFORE WE DEFERRED IT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE VILLAGE PLAN, WE WERE STILL FACING THAT.
AND, AND SO I, I HAD A HARDER TIME BEFORE THAT THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE EMPHASIZING WE'RE PUTTING THIS PLAN TOGETHER TO FOCUS ON GROWTH IN THE VILLAGES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALSO AT THE SAME TIME LOOKING AT GROWTH OUTSIDE THE VILLAGES.
SO I, BUT I THINK THE VILLAGE PLAN, I, I, I HOPE IT'S A PRIORITY FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, THIS BOARD REPRESENTS A COMMUNITY, SO I HOPE THE VILLAGE PLAN BECOMES, ADOPTING A PLAN, BECOMES A COMMUNITY PRIORITY BECAUSE GROWTH IS COMING AND HAVING A PLAN IS, IS IS A WAY TO, UH, KEEP, MAKE IT A LITTLE LESS HAPHAZARD.
I, I, I SUPPOSE SO WITH THE PLAN NOT GETTING APPROVED, I WAS MORE INCLINED TO GET TO YES ON THIS, BUT, AND I KNOW WHY THE APPLICANT DID THE TWO ACRES, BUT THAT STICKING TO THE TWO ACRES, PUT YOU IN A POSITION OF WHERE YOU'RE NOW DOING SOME THINGS THAT WE DON'T LIKE, THAT I'VE, I'VE NOTICED THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN IMPROVED IN THE PAST AND EVER SINCE I'VE KIND OF FIGURED IT OUT, I'M LIKE, I WANT TO AVOID BUFFER AREAS IN THE BACK OF, OF A NEIGHBORHOOD OWNED BY THE INDIVIDUALS.
THERE SHOULD BE ASSOCIATION, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVE THE ASSOCIATION OWNING WETLANDS BMTS, WHY NOT? BUT I THINK YOU DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO SAY WE WE'RE DOING TWO ACRE LOTS, BUT TWO ACRES IS TWO ACRES, WHETHER THE BACK LITTLE PORT PART IS OWNED BY THE ASSOCIATION, BUT THAT'S THE EASIER THING FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
UH, AND, AND FOR THE COUNTY, IF WE GET INVOLVED AND YOU'RE NOT MAINTAINING YOUR BUFFERS, IT'S, WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO TALK TO AN ASSOCIATION VERSUS TAKING AFTER, YOU KNOW, SIX OR SEVEN INDIVIDUALS SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO, YOU KNOW, FOLLOW YOUR, FOLLOW YOUR, UH, PROFFERS.
SO I THINK THE EFFORT TO FIT THIS IN HAS CREATED SOME PROBLEMS. AND THEN OF COURSE, I KNOW THE TIMING WAS VERY INTERESTING, UH, ON THE, ON, ON THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT ORDINANCE, UH, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE, AND I'M, UM, THE MOTION BEFORE US IS, IS A DENIAL.
UM, WE'D HAVE TO DEFER IT AGAIN TO MAYBE MAKE SOME CHANGES.
BUT CERTAINLY THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T, THE NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT THIS.
UM, YEAH, THIS, ON MY LAST BOARD MEETING, THAT TO HAVE THIS TOUGH OF A CASE IS KIND OF UN AN UNPLEASANT FEELING BECAUSE I HATE, UH, MR. LAGERFELD, YOU TALKED ABOUT CAPITALISM AND, AND I WAS TRYING TO FOLLOW YOU, BUT AN ELEMENT IN THAT IS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR LAND.
AND THIS IS PRETTY CLOSE TO CONSISTENT, IT JUST HAS SOME PROBLEMS WITH IT, BUT IT'S PRETTY CLOSE, CLOSE TO CONSISTENT.
AND I'M WITH MR. SPOON HOWER, WHEN, WHEN I WALKED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN I WAS CAMPAIGNING IN, IN THE FALL, UM, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S RACE.
THEY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROPERTY AND, AND OTHER THINGS GOING ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND SO IT ENDED UP BEING TO MY BENEFIT THAT I, I, I FOCUSED ON IT AND, AND I WALKED THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE PROBLEMS WHEN YOU WALK AND YOU SEE THE LOW POINTS AND, AND MY THOUGHT IN TALKING TO THE APPLICANT, UH, OVER THE TIME THAT THEY'VE BEEN BEFORE, SO I, I, I WAS HOPEFUL THAT WE WOULD FIND SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD AMELIORATE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS. BUT THIS HAS, THIS HAS OTHER ISSUES THAT MAKE IT PROBLEMATIC THAT, UH, THAT I DON'T LIKE IT.
UH, BUT IT'S TOUGH TO DO A DENIAL BECAUSE THAT, UH, THAT MEANS A, A YEAR OF, OF NOTHING, UM, NO, NO CHANCE TO, TO ADDRESS IT.
SO I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M STRUGGLING.
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LUMPKINS.BOARD, THEN I'M GONNA CALL FOR THE ROLL CALL, VOTE AS MR. LUMPKINS.
SO AN AN AYE IS TO VOTE TO DECLINE.
MOVING ON TO OUR NINTH CASE OF THE NIGHT, WHICH IS NUMBER EIGHT IN YOUR PACKET.
YEAH, LOOK, WE WILL GIVE FOLKS FI FIVE MINUTES TO, UH, WE'LL BE IN RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES.
IT'S JUST WHEN IT'S GETTING READY TO GET GOOD
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RIGHT.UH, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE ON OUR NINTH CASE, BUT NUMBER EIGHT IN OUR PACKET AND ON THE AGENDA, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. CASH.
[8. District 4 - RZ-2023-00009 Application by Towne & Country Realty Partners, LLC requesting a rezoning of 55.207 acres from Agricultural, Limited (A-2) to Residential Planned Unit Development (RPUD), with proffered conditions, for a residential subdivision on Hockett Road and Goins Road on Tax Map Nos. 58-1-0-73-0, 58-1-0-79-0, and portions of 58-1-0-79-A and 58-1-0-72-T. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Single-Family Residential, Medium Density and Semi-Public.]
GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER, UH, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS RAY CASH.I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS CASE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS, UM, BY TOWN AND COUNTRY REALTOR PARTNERS.
UM, IT'S A REQUEST FOR REZONING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL OF 55.207 ACRES, UM, TO RPUD.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES FOR A CALL, FOR A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT USES FOR THIS AREA.
UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
UM, THE MAP ON THE LEFT REVEALS THE AREA OF THE COUNTY.
THIS IS LOCATED, AND AGAIN, THIS IS REALLY THE EASTERN, UH, PORTION OF THE COUNTY, UH, ADJACENT TO HOCKETT AND GOINS ROAD.
HOCKETT ROAD IS THE ONE THAT RUNS REALLY NORTH SOUTH THROUGH HERE.
GOINS ROAD IS A SMALL ROAD THAT SORT OF RUNS PARALLEL, UM, TO HOCKET ROAD, I MEAN, YEAH, TO HOCKETT ROAD IN THIS AREA.
UM, MAJORITY OF THAT ROAD IS ACTUALLY WITHIN THE FUTURE, RIGHT OF WAY OF HOCKETT ROAD.
WHAT I'VE DONE HERE IS SHOW YOU A LITTLE RED TRIANGLE, THIS PIECE TO THE SOUTH.
THE ONLY P PORTION OF THAT THAT'S GONNA BE REZONED WITH THIS PROPERTY IS REALLY THAT RED TRIANGLE THERE.
IT'S ONLY A SMALL PORTION, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT AS WE DO THE PRESENTATION FURTHER.
UM, THE AREAS IN THIS HERE, THE RR HAS SHIFTED OVER FOR SOME REASON, BUT THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY A TWO, UM, TO THE NORTH OF THIS AREA.
AND OVER ACROSS HOCKETT ROAD FROM THIS PROPERTY IS OUR PED.
UH, THERE'S ALSO, IT'S LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE WEST CREEK, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
AND THAT ZONING IS M1, UH, REALLY FOR BUSINESS PARK.
SO THERE'S LIMITED PROFFERS FOR THE USES FOR THAT.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES CALL FOR THIS AREA.
THE PROPERTY GENERALLY THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED HERE, A SINGLE FAMILY, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THERE'S A SEMI-PUBLIC USE HERE.
THAT IS BECAUSE THERE IS THE EXISTING CHURCH USE THAT'S ON THE PROPERTY.
AND WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT PRIMARY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE STREET, AND THIS WAS THE HIGHER DENSITY, UM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY CATEGORY.
SO WE TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE DESIGNATIONS THAT ARE WITH THE PROPERTY.
UH, SEMI-PUBLIC, AS WE MENTIONED, IS FOR THE CHURCH THAT'S THERE, THAT CHURCH WILL REMAIN.
IT WILL NOW HAVE ITS ACCESS THROUGH THIS PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD ROAD, NOT HAVING ANOTHER CUT OUT INTO HOCKET ROAD.
AS MENTIONED, THE LAND USE CATEGORY AFFECTED HERE IS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY.
THAT DOES CALL FOR AN AVERAGE LOT SIZE OF ONE ACRE.
WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE THE BOARD A COUPLE TIMES RELATED TO THAT, HOW THAT DENSITY IN THAT LANGUAGE, UM, GOES FORWARD.
AND REALLY FROM A DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT, HOW IMPACT UPON LAND USE, IMPACT ON PUBLIC SERVICES AND THE LIKE.
UM, WE THINK ABOUT REALLY WHAT'S THE, UH, TOTAL, UH, NUMBER OF UNITS THAT ARE PRODUCED UNDER THAT CATEGORY.
UH, THAT WOULD BE ESSENTIALLY ONE UNIT AN ACRE.
UM, WHAT'S PROPOSED HERE IS 0.92 UNITS PER ACRE.
AND AGAIN, WITH THIS, WE CONSIDER IT CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN BECAUSE UNDER THE PLAN, IT HAS PROVISION OF OPEN SPACE AMENITIES, BUFFERS.
UM, AND ADDITIONALLY, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WITH OTHER CASE TONIGHT AND THE ORDINANCE WE HAD PROPOSED, THEY ARE OFF FROM PUBLIC ROADS, EAST AND WEST OF THIS PROPERTY, AS WE MENTIONED, ARE THINGS DESIGNATED SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL.
THE NEIGHBORING USES UNDER THAT DESIGNATION IS THE PARK AT CENTERVILLE.
AND READERS BRANCH DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET AT 1.98.
AND IN ADDITION, ACROSS THE STREET IS OUR PROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA, AN AREA WE EXPECT, UM, HIGHER DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS WITHIN OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA.
THIS IS THE AREA WE ANTICIPATE GROWTH TO OCCUR.
IT'S THE AREA OF THE COUNTY THAT WE'VE PLANNED FOR GROWTH TO OCCUR AS A COUNTY.
UM, WE ANTICIPATE AND HOPE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE WILL BE UTILIZED IN THIS AREA TO MAXIMIZE ITS POTENTIAL TO INCLUDE WITH THIS APPLICATION THAT YOU'LL HEAR.
UM, FOLLOWING THIS CASE IS THERE IS THE APPLICANT'S, UM, PROPOSAL AND APPLICATION TO JOIN THE TCSD, UM, WHICH THIS PROPERTY WOULD UTILIZE.
SO THE STAFF, AGAIN, FEELING THAT THIS IS LOCATED WITHIN CENTERVILLE VILLAGE, IT'S ALSO WITHIN DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA, UM, THAT BY ITS DENSITY, IT DOES, UH, MEET THE EXPECTATIONS OF LOT DENSITY THAT'S EXPECTED OUT OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM
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DENSITY.AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA TO INCLUDE INTERNAL SIDEWALKS, BUFFERS, UH, PUBLIC ROADS, AND SOME OPEN SPACE.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BACK IN JUNE, UM, 38 CITIZENS ATTENDED.
UM, THE COMMENTS ARE, UM, WHAT WE'VE ALL COME TO EXPECT WHEN YOU, YOU ATTEND A, A MEETING ABOUT NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COUNTY, ESPECIALLY IN THE, THE CENTERVILLE VILLAGE AREA.
UM, QUESTION ABOUT ADJACENT, HOW IT AFFECTS PROPERTY VALUES, THE VALUE OF THE HOMES, WHETHER OR NOT THE USE THE TCSD WAS BEING UTILIZED, WHICH IT IS, UM, IMPACTS ON, UM, NATURAL FEATURES.
WHILE THERE'S A LACK OF CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD SECTIONS, IT WAS RECOGNIZED AT THE TIME THAT BY THE SPIRIT OF THE, BY THE DEFINITION OF THE LAW, IT'S A CONTIGUOUS PIECE OF PROPERTY BY ADDING THE SMALL TRIANGLE WE TALKED ABOUT.
BUT THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TWO SEPARATE SECTIONS.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT CONNECTION, THE TRAFFIC OF ONTO HOCKETT ROAD AND THE HOCKETT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS WERE OF COURSE QUESTION.
AND THEN ASKING, UH, STAFF AND, UH, THE ATTENDEES.
MR. PETERSON, WHAT'S THE INTENDED FUTURE USE OF THAT COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY TO WHICH THE SUB SUB ROAD CONNECTS? UM, THIS IS THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT'S BEEN, UM, SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT.
AGAIN, HOCK ROAD HERE ALONG THE NORTHERN.
UM, THE UPPER PORTION, AGAIN, THIS IS INVERTED NORTH IS TO THE LEFT.
AND THIS, UH, THIS IMAGE, UH, FOR THAT, THIS IS GOINS ROAD, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT CONNECTS HERE.
SO WHAT THE APPLICANT PROPOSES IS A A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG THIS AREA WITH SOME GREEN SPACE.
UM, SO IT PROBABLY PUSHES THE INITIAL HOUSE PROBABLY ABOUT ALMOST 400 FEET OFF OF HOCKETT ROAD IN THAT AREA.
OVER HERE AGAIN, IS THE, THE GOINS ROAD RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, THE BUFFER IS REDUCED IN THIS AREA, BUT CONTINUES TO BE LARGER WHEN YOU GET PAST THE SECOND ENTRANCE TO THIS.
UM, THERE IS WHAT WAS REFERENCED BEFORE, THERE IS A STU ROAD THAT GOES INTO THE COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY AT THIS POINT, UM, AT THE VERY LOWER CORNER HERE.
UM, THAT'S INCLUSIVE OF AN AREA.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WITH THEM, FAMILIAR WITH VDOT DOES REQUIRE, UM, A STUB ROAD PROVISIONED TO PROVIDE FOR FUTURE CONNECTIVITY.
UM, AND IT ALSO IS DEPENDENT UPON THE LAND USE CATEGORY THAT COMES FORWARD.
SHOULD THE COUNTY DETERMINE IN THE FUTURE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A USE THAT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL, THEN THAT WOULDN'T BE AN APPROPRIATE STUB ROAD.
UM, IT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, SHOULD BE ANOTHER TYPE OF USE THAT COMES FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.
BUT ALSO IT ALLOWS THE OPPORTUNITY THAT SHOULD IN THE FUTURE, SOMETHING, UH, THIS PROPERTY BE TRANSFERRED, SOMETHING ELSE POTENTIALLY ALLOW FOR OTHER TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL USES OR OTHER MORE COMPATIBLE USES TO OCCUR.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO SHUT OFF GOINGS ROAD RIGHT HERE, AND THERE'LL BE A TEMPORARY TURNAROUND INSTALLED.
I MEAN, NOT TEMPORARY, BUT A PERMANENT TURNAROUND INSTALLED THERE SO THAT THE ROAD NO LONGER WILL ACCESS, UM, BACK HERE ONTO HOCKET ROAD, COMPLETE THE CIRCUIT.
BUT THAT'S ALSO, UM, A BENEFIT AND THE STAFF WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER AND WITH VDOT, THEY STILL LOOK AT NOW, WE STILL HAVE MAINTAINED A GOOD ACCESS POINT, UM, THAT'LL BE UPDATED AND IMPROVED ONTO HOCKET ROAD, UM, VERSUS THE ONE THAT'S ALREADY THERE AND NOT CREATING ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL ACCESSES ON THE DOCKET.
SO THERE THE PLAN COMMISSION HEARING IN NOVEMBER, THE PLAN COMMISS DID FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
UH, ONE PERSON SPOKE AT THE HEARING IN SUPPORT OF THE APPLICATION, BUT DID HAVE SUGGESTIONS CONCERNING TURN LIENS AND WALKABILITY.
UM, PARTICULARLY, UH, PERHAPS A WALKABILITY, UM, OPPORTUNITY ALONG HT ROAD.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE ONE EMAIL OF OBJECTION AND THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE PCE HEARING THAT CITED CONCERN WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA, POTENTIAL IMPACT ON HOCKET ROAD TRAFFIC.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED, UH, PROFFERS AND IN FACT, THERE ARE SOME AMENDED PROFFERS I PLACED UP ON YOUR UP, UM, UP ON THE DS FOR YOU.
BUT I WILL WALK THROUGH WHAT THOSE ARE.
I SHOW THE EXACT WORDING IN MY PRESENTATION TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CHANGES ARE.
THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS PROFFERED.
THERE ARE THE TWO BUFFER LOCATIONS.
THERE ARE PROFFERED ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'LL WALK THROUGH.
THERE ARE RECREATIONAL AMENITIES, UH, LIMITATION ON CONSTRUCTION HOURS, WHICH BECOME PRETTY COMMON.
UM, WE SEE FOR AREAS THAT ARE SURROUNDED BY THEIR DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE PAYING THE FULL CASH PROFFER.
THIS IS NOT PROPOSED TO BE A 55 AND OLDER COMMUNITY, BUT A STANDARD RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN, UH, THAT YOU HAVE TODAY, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT TO DO THAT, IS REALLY AMEND THE PROFFER TO PROVIDE LEFT AND RIGHT TURNS AT EACH ENTRANCES.
SO PROFFER TWO, UM, WAS AMENDED REALLY RELATED TO THE TURN LANES.
IF YOU RECALL, I THINK WHEN OUR TWO BY TWOS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY AND WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID HAVE A POTENTIAL THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD DO A SPEED STUDY AND ASK TO SEEK TO REDUCE THE SPEED
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BY VDI.AND IF THAT CAME ABOUT, THEN THEY WOULD SEEK TO, UM, GET RELIEF TO THE LEFT TURN LANE, UM, UNDER OUR ORDINANCE.
AND, UH, AS THE TURN LANES ARE REQUIRED, LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UM, UNDERSTANDING THE CONCERN IN WORKING WITH US VDOT AND, UM, AND, AND UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT CAME UP FROM THE MEETINGS IN PUBLIC, WERE HEARING THEY'VE REMOVED THAT SPEED STUDY REQUEST AND THE REQUEST FOR A WAIVER TO THE LEFT TURN LANE, UM, FOR THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE.
SO BOTH WILL HAVE THE LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES THAT WE'D EXPECT.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT WAS CHANGED IS IN REGARDS TO THEIR COVENANTS OF THEIR OPEN SPACE.
AND REALLY THIS IS A CLEANUP OF THE LANGUAGE TO HELP BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR AS TO NOTIFY PEOPLE OR PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF WHAT, THIS IS AN AREA YOU'RE ACROSS THE STREET AND THAT YOU'RE ACROSS FROM THE WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK AS THEY ALREADY HAVE BEFORE.
BUT THEY'VE ALSO REFERENCED INCLUDING THE TCSD, UM, MEMBERSHIP AND THE FACT THAT PEOPLE DO NEED TO PAY A TAX, UM, FOR THAT ASSESSMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S OFTEN DISCLOSED, BUT IT'S ALSO BETTER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHERE.
UM, SO THAT IS THE, UH, PROPOSAL AND STAFF, OF COURSE WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE HAS A PRESENTATION AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE? NO, MR. LAS LASETTE? OKAY.
UH, SO MR. CASH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, I'M REALLY GLAD TO SEE THE CHANGE IN PROFFERS ON THE TURN LANES.
UH, THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME.
AND THAT WAS ONE THING I WAS GONNA, UM, KIND OF ASK FOR.
SO ANY ISSUES THAT I HAVE WITH THIS ALL HAS TO DO WITH TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION.
SO THIS, SO JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, THE STUB ROAD WOULD ONLY BE ACTIVATED IF IT GOES TO MORE RESIDENTIAL, UH, RESIDENTIAL OR OTHER COMPATIBLE USE.
UM, BUT I, THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF THAT'S REALLY COMPATIBLE IS OTHER RESIDENTIAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT WAS UTILIZED FOR OPEN SPACE OF SOME KIND OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY COULD CONSIDER TO DO THAT, UM, TO CONSIDER THE STUB ROAD RESIDENTIAL IS THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO WHERE THE STUB ROAD WOULD HAVE TO BE UTILIZED.
I DON'T WANT, I, I DON'T WANNA SAY NEVER SAY NEVER, BUT YEAH, I HEAR UNDER, UNDER MOST CIRCUMSTANCES.
FOR INSTANCE, IF IT WAS ANOTHER HIGHER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USE OR ANOTHER, UM, USE THAT THE COUNTY MAY UTILIZE IT FOR THAT'S NOT COMPATIBLE, UM, OFFICES OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF THING IN THE FUTURE, UM, THAT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR A STUB, I MEAN, A CONNECTION RATHER.
AND, AND THAT'S A VDOT IT'S A VDOT DECISION.
WE ALSO FROM, YOU KNOW, BEING A LOCALITY AND A, AND OUR OWN, UM, ABILITY TO DETERMINE, UM, COMPATIBILITY, UH, IF FOR INSTANCE, IF IT WAS AN OFFICE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF HEAVIER USE OR MORE INTENSE USE SUCH AS A CONVENIENCE CENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, STAFF WOULD SAY, NO, THE STUB ROAD'S NOT APPROPRIATE.
AND VDOT, UH, KNOWING THE STANDARDS THEY FOLLOW WOULD AGREE.
SO IF A STUBB ROAD IS NOT UTILIZED FROM THAT PROPERTY, HOW IS THAT PROPERTY ACCESSED? SO THE PROPERTY, WE'LL BACK IT UP.
SO THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS BLUE AREA? YES.
IF YOU RECALL, WHEN THE BOARD, UM, APPROVED SONGBIRD, UM, DEVELOPMENT, UH, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, THERE IS A ROAD THAT ROLLS PARALLEL ALONG SONGBIRDS DEVELOPMENT AND THAT COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY.
IN ADDITION, THE PROPERTY ALSO HAS OTHER FRONTAGE, UM, A LARGE AMOUNT OF FRONTAGE ON HOCKET ROAD.
SO THERE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, UM, FOR IT TO BE VIABLE FOR OTHER TYPES OF, FOR INSTANCE, IN THE FUTURE, RESIDENTIAL USE OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF THING.
UM, THE STUB WOULD BE A VALUABLE ASSET TO HAVE.
ADDITIONALLY, IT MAY ALSO SERVE, DEPENDING UPON THE USE THERE, THIS ALL MAY ALSO MAY SERVE AS A GOOD LOCATION FOR PERHAPS THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS OR SOME OTHER TYPE OF THING WE, WE NEED, WE MAY NEED OR A FUTURE DEVELOPER MAY NEED.
UM, BUT AT THIS POINT, THERE IS SUFFICIENT ACCESS FOR THAT PROPERTY TO GENERALLY DEVELOP ON ITS OWN FOR A COUNTY USE.
SO YOU MENTIONED SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE IT MIGHT BE OF THE PROFFERS ABOUT THE WIDER ROADS WITHIN THE SUBDIVISION.
IN FACT, THEY MATCHED WHAT STAFF THEIR PROPOSAL WAS TONIGHT FOR PUBLIC ROADS.
THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO HEAR HAS DONE THAT ALONG WITH, UM, SIDEWALKS.
SO THAT'S, SO THAT'S A GOOD ANSWER ON THAT.
UM, AND THAT, THAT ROAD THAT'S A PART OF SONGBIRD OR RIGHT BESIDE SONGBIRD, IS THAT
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A PRIVATE ROAD? THAT ROAD, I'D HAVE TO CONFIRM.IS SONGBIRD PRIVATE? IT'S CURRENTLY PRIVATE, BUT IF WE, IF WE UTILIZED IT WOULD BE SWITCHED TO, TO PUBLIC.
AND I THINK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, IS THERE BECOMING PUBLIC, RIGHT.
PUBLIC, UH, WITH THE, UM, SONGBIRD DEVELOPMENT WITH WHAT IT'S PART OF THEIR, IF I HAD IT HERE, BUT, UM, THE APPLICANT COULD PROBABLY EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
BUT ISN'T THE, THE ROAD THAT RUNS PARALLEL WILL BECOME A PUBLIC ROAD.
SO ALL OF THE, IF IF THE QUESTION IS THIS THE ROADS WITHIN THE SONGBIRD DEVELOPMENT? IS THAT THE QUESTION? WELL, THE ROAD THAT'S ADJACENT TO THIS BLUE PIECE OF PROPERTY, SO THAT IS ONE OF THE SONGBIRD ROADS THAT IS INTENDED TO BE A VDOT MAINTAINED ROAD.
AND, AND ONE MORE QUESTION, LAST QUESTION.
SO HOW MANY HOMES IN THIS SUBDIVISION AND IS 51, IS THAT CORRECT? 51 AND THEY ALL HAVE ACCESS IS ONE ACCESS TO HOCKETT ROAD? UM, WELL, THERE'S TWO ACCESSES, BUT EACH, EACH SECTION WILL HAVE AN ACCESS.
SO FOR THAT, SO THEY WILL HAVE AN ACCESS DIRECTLY HOCKET FROM THIS SECTION AND FROM THE OTHER.
MR. CHAIR, IF I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THIS.
UM, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE PROPERTY MAP? UM, SURE.
UM, THE AREA MAP IS THAT, YEAH.
SO YOU, YOU MENTIONED IT'S STUBBED, BUT THEY WOULDN'T PUNCH THROUGH UNLESS IT MADE SENSE WITH COMPATIBLE USES.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DISCUSSING NOW IS LET, LET'S SAY THAT THE, THE COMPATIBLE USE WAS SINGLE FAMILY THROUGHOUT THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY.
I MEAN, THIS IS MORE FOR AUSTIN, BUT THE IDEA OF SPINE ROADS, IF YOU HAVE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TOTAL SINGLE FAMILIES IN A DEVELOPMENT, SHOULD ONE OR MORE OF THOSE ROADS NOT HAVE ACCESS TO DRIVEWAYS SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE SO MANY DRIVEWAYS ON ONE ROAD.
AND WHAT IT WOULD COME DOWN TO IS REALLY THE VOLUME POTENTIAL AND THE VOLUME, THE TRAFFIC DISTRIBUTION.
SO WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF, OF 200 LOTS, OR ACTUALLY A 2000 VEHICLE PER DAY ACCESS GOING THROUGH THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CONSIDERATION OF HOW THE, THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED TO ENSURE THAT TRAFFIC DISTRIBUTION DOESN'T RISE TO THAT LEVEL.
SO WE DON'T FORCE THOSE PEOPLE NOW TO HAVE A THIRD RATE.
SO YOU SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.
YOU DO 50 NOW ANOTHER 50 LATER, ANOTHER 50 LATER, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE AT THAT 200, YOU DIDN'T DO THE SPINE ROAD.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE AND, AND THE GOAL OF THE SPINE ROAD, UH, PART OF THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT, UH, UH, PROPOSALS THAT THAT STAFF WAS GONNA COME FORWARD WITH TONIGHT IS LOOKING AT THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND THE CURRENT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOESN'T RECOMMEND RESIDENTIAL FOR THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO WE CAN'T SPECULATE AS TO IF IT DOES TRANSFER AND BECOME SINGLE FAMILY, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD A SPINE ROAD THERE.
THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY KIND OF A, A, A CAN THAT WILL HAVE TO BE KICKED DOWN THE ROAD ON, ON THAT PARTICULAR SPINE, UM, CONVERSATION FOR, FOR THIS, UH, PROPOSAL.
AND THAT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE UNDERTAKE AND THEN HOPEFULLY THE ACCESSES BE MAINTAINED.
SO NOT EVERYBODY HAS TO ACCESS THROUGH THIS ONE ROAD.
THAT ENDS MY SPINE ROAD DISCUSSION.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DO THINGS ONE BITE AT A TIME AND YOU FIND YOURSELF IN A PLACE YOU DIDN'T REALLY WANNA BE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UM, THE SECOND WAS, YOU MENTIONED SOME, UH, THIS IS PROBABLY NOT FOR TRANSPORTATION, BUT YOU CAN HANG OUT IF YOU LIKE.
UM, YOU MENTIONED DISCLOSING THAT THERE'S M1 ACROSS THE STREET, UH, PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND SOME HIGH DENSITY AROUND, UM, THE PUBLIC USES HAVEN'T BEEN, UH, LEMME JUST MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR THAT THAT BLUE SECTION, THERE'S BEEN ABSOLUTELY NO DECISION, NO DISCUSSIONS ABOUT ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA GO THERE.
RIGHT? BUT WE CAN ALSO CONTEMPLATE WHAT TYPES OF THINGS WE MIGHT DO IN THE EAST END.
AND IT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM A CONVENIENCE CENTER.
'CAUSE THE, THE TWO THAT WE HAVE ARE NOT CONVENIENT TO THE EAST END
RIGHT? HARD TO MEET THAT TARGET, BUT THEY'RE CONVENIENCE CENTERS.
AND THAT'S, AND WOULD THESE POTENTIAL RESIDENTS CARE IF THERE'S A CONVENIENCE CENTER NEXT DOOR? I DON'T KNOW.
UM, SCHOOL, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A COMPATIBLE USE WHERE SCHOOL BUSES WOULD GO THROUGH THIS DEVELOPMENT? OR WOULD THAT BE, WOULD THEY HAVE TO DO A U-TURN AND GO BACK OUT THE OTHER WAY? OR HOW, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? RIGHT.
AND, AND THAT WOULD BE AN UL A DETERMINATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSIDER AS A STAFF AS AND AS A, UH, BOARD SHOULD BE DETERMINED.
THAT'S THE USE THERE, BUT ALSO, UH, VDO T'S DISCUSSION.
UM, AND I WILL SAY THERE ARE CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES I'VE SEEN SCHOOL BUSES WHERE YOU HAVE INTERNAL NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, ROADS, UM, THAT, THAT MAY OCCUR.
UM, I WOULD SAY MOST LIKELY IF THIS WAS A SCHOOL SITE, UM, JUDGING BY THE ROAD TYPES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS PROBABLY MOST LIKELY THIS WOULD SERVE BETTER AS A PEDESTRIAN SORT OF ACCESS THAN IF SERVE AS THE PRIMARY ACCESS INTO THE, INTO THE SCHOOL.
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IT AGAIN, JUST ENVISIONING WHAT COULD POSSIBLY HAPPEN.HE DIDN'T, IT'S A LOOP ROAD THROUGH THERE, WHICH WOULD GET BACK TO OUR CONCERN ABOUT TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S WAYS TO ENGINEER AROUND IT, BUT I, AGAIN, WITH LITTLE PRIOR PLANNING, YOU CAN ENVISION THINGS THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME AND TRY TO NOT HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES DOWN THE ROAD, IF YOU WILL, FOR OTHER BOARDS TO WORRY ABOUT.
UM, SO, SO I MEAN, THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS ABOUT ACCESS AND POTENTIAL USES IN SPINE ROAD AND, UM, WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT GO THERE.
UM, BUT BACK TO THE DISCLOSURE, THERE IS NO DISCLOSURE THAT THERE MAY BE SOME PUBLIC USE FACILITY NEXT DOOR, BUT, UM, UH, RIGHT.
IF, IF THE, IF THE COUNTY HAD A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT WE KNEW THAT WAS PLANNED FOR THAT, UM, OTHERWISE, I, I WOULD'VE TO SAY OTHER THAN SAYING IT'S A COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY OR PLACING A QUESTION MARK IN THE DISCLOSURE, UM, TO BE FAIR, UM, IT'S, IT'S A HARD UNDERSTAND CONDITION THAT TO ASK FOR JUST WHAT THE APPLICANT DID IS.
SO WHAT WE LOOK FOR IS THOSE, THOSE WERE KIND OF THE TWO THINGS THAT WERE OF CONCERN TO STAFF AT LEAST ADDRESSING THE EXISTING, UM, CONDITIONS.
THE KNOWN, KNOWN EVILS AS OPPOSED TO THE UNKNOWN EVIL
UM, ALRIGHT, WELL I THANK YOU AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I'LL YIELD BACK THE REST OF MY TIME.
IF I THINK ABOUT EACH, EACH ENTRANCE WE'VE GOT THE TWO MAIN ENTRANCES OFF POCKET.
MM-HMM,
SO I'M THINKING 1600 FEET A QUARTER MILE OF ADDITIONAL WIDTH ON HOCKETT ROAD, IS MY MATH CORRECT THERE? UM, PRETTY MUCH YOU HAVE TO DO THE ALTERATIONS TO CUT FOR THE, THE TAPER AND THE STORAGE FOR EACH OF THOSE, UM, TURN LANES THAT ARE BEING, UH, TALKED ABOUT FOR THAT.
UM, IT'S, WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION SORT OF WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE, IMPROVE THE DEVELOPMENTS ALONG FAIRGROUND ROADS.
THIS BECOMES THE PLACE WHERE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS SORT OF OCCUR WITHIN THIS AREA.
UM, WHAT WILL OCCUR HERE IS GENERALLY WHAT YOU SORT OF, UM, IN THIS AREA FURTHER NORTH WHERE, UH, READERS BRANCH IS AND PARK AT CENTERVILLE.
SO THERE'LL BE A LOT OF ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.
BUT, BUT THE DISTANCE I'M CALCULATING IS ROUGHLY HERE FOR ABOUT 16 MINUTES, IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY.
BOARD ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT'S PRESENTATION? OKAY.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD? OF COURSE YOU WOULD.
UM, IT DOES IT THE SAME THING BEFORE THAT WORK FOR YOU.
UM, IF YOU HAVE A BETTER IDEA,
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M JENNIFER MULLEN WITH ROTH JACKSON HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, WE AND MR. CASH DID A GREAT JOB OF, OF WALKING THROUGH THE, THE WHOLE PRESENTATION.
SO I WILL, I'LL TOUCH ON THE HIGHLIGHTS AND THEN AGAIN, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
UM, THIS JUST GIVES YOU THE, THE OVERALL SITE CONTEXT, YOU KNOW, AS MR. CASH NOTED, BUT JUST GIVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BETTER, UM, VIEW.
AND I MIGHT NEED MY TO ZOOM IN HERE FOR MY GLASSES TO WORK BETTER
UM, BUT THIS, THIS GIVES THE WHOLE GLAND PROPERTY DOWN HERE.
UM, MS. LAS DOES THE BUTTON TO THE RIGHT OF THE PLUS SIGN.
LET'S SEE'S THE RATE OF THE PLUS SIGN.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE THREE? I KNOW I CLICKED, UH, I DIDN'T DO MY DANCE EARLIER.
DO YOU SEE IT
UM, AGAIN, JUST TO, TO HIGHLIGHT WHERE THE PROPERTY IS.
SO WE'VE OVERLAID THE, UM, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HERE, UM, JUST WITHIN THE CONTEXT.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE ADJACENT USES, UM, THAT WERE WALKED THROUGH.
THIS JUST AGAIN, UM, HIGHLIGHTS THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION, WHICH AGAIN, HAS, UM, MULTIPLE DESIGNATIONS BASED ON THE, THE GRAY HERE AS THE THE CHURCH PROPERTY.
UM, BUT TYING IN, WE'RE ALL WITHIN THE, THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA.
UM, THIS JUST SHOWS AGAIN, THE OVERALL CONTEXT, UM, WITH THE M1 USES ACROSS THE STREET, THE RPUD UM, USES JUST ADJACENT TO THE NORTH AS WELL AS TO THE SOUTH HERE.
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UM, AND AS MR. CASH NOTED, THERE WILL BE A COMPANION PAPER AFTER THIS FOR, UM, A REQUEST TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN THE TCSD.THESE PROPERTIES WERE IDENTIFIED PREVIOUSLY.
UM, THE PURPLE SHOWS, THE, UM, PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THE TCSD CURRENTLY.
UM, AND SO OUR DEVELOPMENT IS REQUESTING TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN THAT.
UH, THIS JUST SHOWS A, A BLACK AND WHITE, UM, JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE, THE LOTS THEMSELVES.
UM, I THINK IMPORTANT ALSO TO NOTE, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE, THE COMPONENTS OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO TALK ABOUT PRESERVING WETLANDS, WHICH I KNOW WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER THIS EVENING.
BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT THE, THE WETLANDS, UM, ARE LOCATED ALONG THE SIDES.
THERE ARE WETLANDS DOWN, DOWN HERE, AS WELL AS UP ON THE SIDES THAT ARE ALL BEING PRESERVED.
AND THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE WITHIN THE COMMON AREA, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE LOTS THEMSELVES.
UM, SO THIS JUST SHOWS YOU A, AN OVERALL, UM, OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH MR. CASH HAD.
BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE, UM, THAT AGAIN, AS DISCUSSED, OUR TRAFFIC STUDY DID NOT, UM, REQUIRE THE TURN LANES, BUT WE ARE PROFFERING BOTH THE LEFT AND RIGHT TURN LANES WITH THE TAPERS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR DOING THE MATH FOR ME.
LAWYER MATH IS NEVER A GOOD THING, PARTICULARLY AT A PODIUM, SO APPRECIATE THAT
UM, UH, AND SO THOSE PIECES WERE REVISED, UM, AS MR. CASH NOTED.
UM, SO THERE IS NO QUALIFICATION ON THOSE TURN LANES.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENT HERE AGAIN, WE HAVE, UM, APPROXIMATELY 370 FEET TO THAT FIRST LOT.
SO THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT AREA.
UM, YOU HAVE THE BUFFER AND THEN THE, THE STORM WATER POND HERE.
BUT AGAIN, USING, USING THE EXISTING, THE EXISTING IS THE, THE DARK GREEN, THOSE ARE THE EXISTING TREES.
AND THEN SUPPLEMENTING WITH STREET TREES THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE STORMWATER PONDS WILL BE A, A FEATURE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE, AGAIN, A CENTRAL AREA, WHICH I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH, UM, IN A MOMENT AS WELL.
UM, WE HAVE STREET TREES, AGAIN, EVERY 50 FEET.
UM, ALONG THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE YELLOW IDENTIFIES THE, THE TRAIL SYSTEM, WHICH CONNECTS IN THROUGH THE, THE SIDEWALK COMPONENT.
UM, AND ONE QUICK PIECE FROM MR. CASH'S DEVELOPMENT.
THIS, THIS PORTION HAS BEEN, UM, ADDED TO THIS PROPERTY HERE.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE THREE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, THAT HAVE THAT COME TOGETHER TO MAKE UP THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY POLICY OF AGGREGATING PROPERTIES TOGETHER TO MAKE FOR A, A COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AGAIN, HERE YOU HAVE THE SITE AREA AT THE ENTRANCE.
SO THIS IS THE 100 FOOT BUFFER.
UM, BEHIND THAT YOU HAVE THE, THE STORMWATER POND, WHICH WILL BE A FEATURE.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE PROFFERS WITH RESPECT TO, UM, THE OPEN SPACE AMENITIES THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.
UM, THIS WOULD BE THE, THIS IS THE EXISTING CHURCH HERE, AND SO THIS WOULD BE THEIR NEW PROPERTY.
UM, THEY WILL HAVE A NEW ACCESS POINT HERE SO THAT THEY, THEY'RE ALSO ABLE TO WALK OVER AND ENJOY THAT SPACE THERE.
UM, ACCESS WILL BE MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT SO THAT THEY CAN, UM, ACCESS THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, AND THEN HERE YOU HAVE JUST THE, THE EXISTING TREES, UM, COMING IN.
THIS SHOWS THE, UH, GOINS ROAD ENTRANCE.
UH, THIS IS WHAT WE CALL THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE, UM, IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER DETAIL.
SO WHILE IT IS A, A PROFFER OF A MINIMUM OF 50 FEET, YOU STILL HAVE THE ADDITIONAL PORTION THAT IS GOINS ROAD IS ALL WITHIN THE HOCKET RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THIS IS ALL SIGNIFICANTLY TREED, UM, WITHIN THE HOCKET RIGHT OF WAY.
AND THEN IT'S A HUNDRED FEET, UM, TO THE SOUTH BECAUSE THAT GOINS ROAD, UM, EXISTING CONDITION DOES NOT EXIST.
THIS SECTION HERE JUST GIVES YOU THE, THE DETAIL OF THE OVERALL, THIS IS THE, THE CENTRAL GREEN SPACE.
SO AGAIN, THE, THE BENEFIT OF, OF THE RPUD ALLOWS US TO HAVE THE LOTS, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE OPEN SPACE, BOTH AT THE ENTRANCES, UH, AS WELL AS CENTRALLY HERE.
SO YOU HAVE SOME PASSIVE, UM, OPEN SPACE, UH, AREAS, UM, AS WELL AS THE TRAIL WALKING THROUGH.
SO THESE WILL MAKE FOR, FOR NOT ONLY, UM, VERY NICE BACKDROPS FOR THESE LOTS, BUT NICE OPEN SPACE FOR THE, THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
THIS JUST SHOWS SOME IMAGES OF, UM, THE WALKING TRAIL.
WE HAVE SIDEWALKS, A NICE ENTRANCE FEATURE.
UM, AGAIN, HAVING A WATER FEATURE WITH THE, THE STORMWATER POND.
UM, A GAZEBO AND A PATIO AREA.
UH, JUST TO SHOW YOU SOME EXAMPLES, UM, THE HOUSES WILL ALL BE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
THEY'LL HAVE, UM, HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS.
THESE ARE EXPECTED, UM, WITH UPGRADES TO, TO START IN THE MILLION DOLLAR RANGE.
SO THESE WILL, UM, BRING, INCREASE THE, THE PROPERTY VALUES OVERALL.
UM, AND AS WAS NOTED, WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF PROFFERS, UM, THAT, THAT MR. CASH WENT THROUGH.
YOU KNOW, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT, WE HAVE, UH, THE FULL CASH PROFFER BEING PAID.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE ASSOCIATION MAINTAINING THE COMMON AREAS AND ENFORCING THE, THE, UM, TREE PRESERVATION COMPONENTS, UM, THAT WERE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
THAT WAS AN OUTGROWTH OF THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
THE EXISTING POWER LINES WILL BE PUT UNDERGROUND.
SO THERE IS AN EXISTING POWER LINE THAT RUNS THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THAT WILL BE PUT UNDERGROUND.
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HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR, UM, APPROVAL THIS EVENING.ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? SURE, YES SIR.
MR. CHAIR, WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT TRIANGLE? UH, IT, IT IS JUST A PIECE THAT WAS A BOUNDARY LINE ADJUSTMENT FROM AN ADJACENT PROPERTY.
SO IT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THIS PARCEL HERE.
UM, SO IT IS, IT CONNECTS THE TWO TECHNICALLY TO MAKE IT TECHNICALLY ONE APPLICATION THAT'S CORRECT.
AS FAR AS YOU, OTHERWISE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ACREAGE TO DO AN RPUD.
WELL, THERE'S ENOUGH ACRE, BUT IT MEETS, IT MEETS THE CONTINU, THE CONTIGUOUS REQUIREMENT.
SO THE, THE RPUD, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, I MEAN, I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT IT IS CONTIGUOUS, SO IT, IT DOES, THIS IS A PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY NOW? YEAH, IT'S LIKE TWO SEPARATE DEVELOPMENTS, BUT I GUESS THAT LETTER.
WELL, IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE, OF THE RPUD ITSELF.
BUT THAT ALSO ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE SOME WETLANDS, UM, WITHIN THERE THAT WILL BE PRESERVED AS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
MR. BARTERS IS, IS, IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL TO, YOU MENTIONED WETLANDS, BUT IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL TO MAKE A PATH CONNECTION OF SOME SORT IN THAT TRIANGLE OR THEREABOUTS? SO YOU'VE GOT THAT MUCH MORE WALKING SPACE, THAT MUCH MORE BIKING SPACE, THINGS LIKE THAT? SURE, THERE COULD BE.
SO, UH, THERE'S A COUPLE COMPONENTS OF WETLANDS, UM, AND THERE'S SOME WATERS OF THE US THAT RUN THROUGH THERE, SO WE'D NEED TO RUN THROUGH THAT MITIGATION.
UM, SO WITH WETLANDS, TYPICALLY IT'S TO AVOID IMPACTING THEM AND THEN TO MITIGATE.
SO IF THERE WERE TO BE A, A ROAD THAT COMES THROUGH, BUT GETTING BACK TO THE QUESTION EARLIER ON A STUB ROAD, THAT COULD BE A BETTER, A BETTER LOCATION FOR THAT.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WOULD BE PART OF A DISCUSSION OF IMPACTING THOSE WETLANDS.
ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANYBODY WISHING TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS CASE, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE.
GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND PLEASE TRY TO LIMIT YOUR COMMENTS IN THREE MINUTES.
LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD, MANNEQUIN, SABBATH, VIRGINIA.
I AM IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS APPLICANT.
UH, HE HAS BEEN, UH, VERY OPEN WITH US TO LISTEN TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS SAID.
UM, AND, UM, IT, IT IS REFRESHING TO, TO BE INVITED TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS GOING TO COMPLY WITH THE COMP PLAN AND WE WERE GONNA BE HAPPY.
I WAS VERY HAPPY, YOU KNOW, UH, SO, UM, IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES THAT KIND OF COMMITMENT TO MAKE THE CHANGES, UH, BASED ON, ON PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND INCORPORATE THOSE, UM, ASPECTS THAT MAKES US, GOOCHLAND, MAKES US SPECIAL, YOU KNOW, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S WHAT WE NEED.
I LIVE AT 1 2 2 3 9 GALLUP LANE.
UH, I AM A MEMBER OF THE SMALL CHURCH THAT IS REPRESENTED IN THIS PLAN AND WE HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING WITH THE DEVELOPERS IN WHAT WAS GOING ON.
WE'RE VERY KEEN ON, UH, HOW THEY'RE PRESENTING THE PLAN AND THEIR PROPERTIES.
IT SHOULD REALLY ENHANCE OUR LITTLE CHURCH THAT'S THERE.
WE EXPECT TO HAVE SOME GROWTH IN OUR CHURCH BECAUSE OF THIS AREA, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.
EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE REQUESTED OF THE DEVELOPERS IN MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROPERTIES, UH, HAS BEEN ADDRESSED AND WE'VE BEEN VERY HAPPY WITH THAT.
UH, WE HAVE, WE'RE SELLING TO THEM, UH, A PORTION OF THIS AREA UP FRONT, UM, THAT IS UNDEVELOPED AND WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED BY US.
UH, AND THEY HAVE MAINTAINED THE LOOK THAT WE WERE HOPING FOR.
SO ALL IN ALL, WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO BE PARTNERING WITH THIS DEVELOPER.
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THANK YOU MR. WEBER.ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? OKAY.
CAN WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? THANK YOU.
DID THE APPLICANT WANNA REBUT ANYTHING? THEY HEARD
USUALLY DOESN'T GO THAT WAY, SO, ALL RIGHT.
BOARD, WHAT'S YOUR PLEASURE? MR. VADERS? UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE REZONING RZ 2023 DASH NINE FOR 55.27 ACRES ON TAX MAP NUMBERS 58 DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 73 DASH 0 58 DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 79 DASH ZERO, AND PORTIONS OF 58 DASH ONE DASH 79 DASH A AND 58 DASH 1 72 T.
PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER, UM, FROM A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, ALSO KNOWN AS RPUD WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
THESE CHANGES THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US, WOULD THEY NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND DOES IT NEED TO BE AS AMENDED? UM, YES.
BECAUSE WHAT, UH, RAY PRESENTED IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND SO THE WRITTEN RECORD IS WHAT'S IN YOUR PACKET, SO IT IS AMENDED FROM YOUR AGENDA PACKET.
MR. VARS, WOULD YOU FRIENDLY? YES, I A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
AS AMENDED, UM, BASED ON THE DOCUMENTS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OR, OR THIS EVENING, DO I NEED TO REFERENCE IT? MS. SK, DO YOU ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT? ABSOLUTELY.
FOR THOSE THAT YOU COULDN'T HEAR? ABS? ABSOLUTELY
ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A THAT'S OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL VOTE.
MOVING RIGHT INTO THE NEXT CASE, WHICH IS A
[9. Countywide - Ordinance amending County Code Sec. 14-251 (Tuckahoe Creek Service District) to include within the Service District three parcels, located near Hockett Road and Goins Road, identified as Tax Map Nos. 58-1-0-73-0, 58-1-0-79-0, and 58-1-0-79-A]
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AN AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE CHAPTER 14, SECTION 2 51, ALSO KNOWN AS TCO CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT.UM, I'M NOT REALLY GO INTO INTO DETAIL TO THIS, UM, THE HISTORY LESSON, THERE'S A LOT 2,500 PARCELS CURRENTLY IN THE DISTRICT.
UM, THIS AS WAS DEMONSTRATED IN THE PREVIOUS MAP BY THE APPLICANT.
UM, FOR THIS, THIS AREA IS GENERALLY SURROUNDED BY PARCELS THAT ARE WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
AND THIS APPLICANT, BASED UPON THE CASE YOU JUST HEARD, IS APPLYING, UM, SEEKING TO BE PART OF THAT.
UM, THE PARCELS INVOLVED OR DEMONSTRATED HERE IN THE OUTLINE IN RED, UH, AS SHOWN ORIGINALLY AROUND IT, THERE'S A LOT OF PARCELS THAT ARE DEVELOPED, UH, FOR RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE INSIDE THE TCSD.
UM, SO WHAT THE PRO CODE CHANGES IS TO ADD THESE TAX, UM, IDS INTO THE DISTRICT, AND OF COURSE, STAFF'S AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? MS. LASETTE? OKAY, SO REAL QUICK, SORRY, MR. CASH.
SO THE, THE CASE THAT WE JUST APPROVED MM-HMM?
AND THIS IS NOW, UM, FOR THE TUCKO CREEK INCLUSION.
JUST LOST MY, THE ADDITIONAL ACREAGE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHERE THE, UM, EPISCOPAL CHURCH IS ON THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
SO IT'S, SO THAT BRINGS THE CHURCH.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, SURPRISE.
I'M GONNA DO ALL RIGHT IF THAT, I'LL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, MR. CHAIR, UH, I MOVE TO THE BOARD.
APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE AMENDING GOOCHLAND COUNTY CODE SECTION 14 DASH 2 51 TO ADD THESE THREE TAX PARCELS INTO THE TUCK TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT.
MS. LASETTE, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL VOTE.
UM, NOW WE MOVE TO OUR LAST PUBLIC HEARING OF THE EVENING.
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AND MR. CASH, YOU'RE UP AGAIN.AND MY PRESENTATIONS COMBINED BEFORE
HEY LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND GONNA START THIS BEFORE 11 O'CLOCK.
[11. Countywide - ZOA-2023-00004 Amendment to Subdivision Ordinance (County Code Appendix B) to update subdivision plat requirements and approval process]
ALL RIGHT, MR. CASH.GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER, UM, THIS, UM, ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT SPECIFICALLY TO SECTION, UM, SECTIONS OF THE APPENDIX B OF OUR OTHERWISE KNOWN AS OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
UM, IT IS REALLY DONE TO WHAT WE CALL AMENDMENTS SUBDIVISION PLAT REQUIREMENTS.
NA IDEA HAS ENCOURAGED CONSISTENCY BETWEEN OUR PLAT TYPES, UPDATE NECESSARY INFORMATION THAT'S NEEDED FOR STAFF REVIEW, PROMOTE SOME ACCURACY IN OUR PLATTS, IMPROVE OUR GIS SYSTEM.
WE ALSO WANNA BE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SEE IN THE INDUSTRY AND REGIONAL STANDARDS, UM, AND THEN OTHERS TO MAKE OURSELVES MORE CONSISTENT WITH STATE CODE.
UM, REGARDING THE TENTATIVE PLAT PROCESS, UM, AS THE BOARD'S HEARD OFTEN ENOUGH FROM FROM STAFF OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, AND I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A PRIORITY TO THE BOARD, IS OUR STAFF.
OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE IS, IS OUT OF DATE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S IN DIRE NATIVE, UM, AMENDMENTS.
WE'VE DONE SOME MINOR AMENDMENTS THE LAST COUPLE YEARS TO TRY TO BRING THINGS UP TO DATE TO ADDRESS WHAT WE SEE AS THE DEVELOPMENT TREND WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTY, WHICH IS A LOT MORE, UM, LARGER SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENTS, A LOT MORE PROPERTY DIVISIONS AND THE LIKE.
SO PART OF THAT IS WE WANNA ALSO MAKE SURE WE HAVE CONSISTENT INFORMATION BETWEEN THE PLAT TYPES AND CONSISTENT SUBMISSIONS.
THOSE CONSISTENT SUBMISSIONS ACTUALLY MAKE PLAT PROCESS, PROCESS AND REVIEW GO QUICKER.
UM, WE'VE ALSO INVI INCLUDED WITHIN THIS CHECKLIST OF REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE GOOD FOR BOTH THE DESIGNER AND FOR STAFF INTAKE TO HELP SPEED THAT PROCESS.
PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE THE EXPECTATION, UM, WE SHOULD PROVIDE THEM THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO PROVIDE EXPECTATION IS THAT WE SHOULD GET THAT INFORMATION TO HELP, UH, IMPROVE REVIEWS.
PART OF THIS, UM, THAT REALLY DROVE, UM, ONE OF THE REASONS TO INITIATE THIS AMENDMENT TO BEGIN WITH IS REALLY A CONCERN ABOUT OUR GIS MAPPING INFORMATION.
UM, GIS IS CURRENTLY A SYSTEM THAT'S UTILIZED THROUGH ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT SYSTEMS OUT THERE.
UM, PUBLIC, PRIVATE, UM, THAT'S DONE FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT REASONS.
SOME OF IT IS FOR PROPERTY OR PROPERTY SALES.
OTHER PARTS OF IT IS REALLY FOR INFORMATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE PROPER, PROPER RIGHT OF WAYS.
WE HAVE THE PROPER EASEMENTS, WE HAVE THE PROPER DRAINAGE AREAS, UM, THAT ARE MAPPED.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THIS PLATT IS THAT THEY'RE BE PROPOSED FOUR FIELD LOCATED GPS POINTS ON A PLATT, UM, THAT WOULD EXCLUDE VACATION PLATTS, WHICH AREN'T INCLUDED WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE, UM, NOT PART OF THE MINOR PLATT PROCESS.
AND THEN FOR CERTAIN MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, UM, THE REASON, UM, THOSE HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IS WE DO RECOGNIZE CERTAIN, UM, POINTS MAY BE SUFFICIENT THAT CAN UTILIZE THAT.
UM, WE PUT A DATE OF 2013 ON THAT.
PART OF THAT REASONING IS SOMETHING THAT'S WITHIN THE RECENT PAST.
ALSO SOMETHING WHEN THAT WAS BECOMING MORE OF A, A REGIONAL TREND AS FAR AS, UM, SEEKING THE GPS POINTS WITH THE CAVEAT THAT, UM, WE CAN EVALUATE THOSE POINTS TO MAKE SURE OF THEIR ACCURACY AND HOW THEY CONNECT TO OTHER POINTS AND OTHER SYSTEM AND OTHER DATA.
WE'VE ALSO SET OURSELVES UP FOR WHAT WE CONSIDER ELECTRONIC SUBMITTALS TO THE GIS DEPARTMENT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE PROPER, UM, UH, SOFTWARE UTILIZED OR THE PROPER PROGRAM, PROPER SUBMISSION THAT COMES IN THAT EASILY TRANSLATE TO OUR SYSTEM.
BUT THOSE ARE COMMON FORMATS THAT ARE USED ALREADY WITHIN THE INDUSTRY AND THE REGION.
AND ALSO PREPARE OURSELVES FOR FUTURE ELECTRONIC SUBMISSION OF PLATTS, UM, AND PLAT TYPES.
UM, WE'VE SLOWLY BEEN STARTING TO BRING THOSE IN ON THE POD SIDE, BUT WE HOPE TO START, UM, GETTING MORE PLAT AND PLAT DATA BE SUBMITTED ELECTRONICALLY FOR US FOR REVIEW.
NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A PROPER FORMAT TO DO THAT.
UM, THE NEXT IS CHANGES TO TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION.
UM, CURRENTLY OUR, OUR, OUR TENTATIVE PROCESS AND OUR ALTERNATIVE APPROVAL TERMS ARE OUT OF LINE WITH STATE CODE.
UM, STATE CURRENTLY NOW PROVIDES THAT ONCE YOU'VE RECEIVED A TENTATIVE PLAT APPROVAL, YOU HAVE A FIVE YEAR APPROVAL.
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THAN THAT CURRENTLY THREE YEARS.IT ALSO HAS PROVISIONED THAT WITHIN A YEAR YOU HAVE TO COME FORWARD AND TRY TO DILIGENTLY PURSUE IS THE WORD THAT'S, UM, TO TRY TO GET YOUR FINAL PLATT DONE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, GET YOUR TENANT APPROVAL.
THE EXPECTATION IS YOU'RE READY TO DEVELOP AND YOU HAVE A YEAR.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IS INSTEAD OF THE STATE CODE, WE'RE PROPOSING THAT WE'D GIVE A TWO YEAR TIME TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR PREVIOUS APPROVAL TERMS. UM, WE'VE ALSO, UM, UPDATED WHAT THE REVIEW TIMES ARE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH STATE CODE.
UM, PREVIOUSLY STAFF HAD PRETTY MUCH LIKE A 10 DAY REVIEW TIME OR 30 BEFORE WE GET THERE.
THAT'S NOT SUFFICIENT FOR VDOT TO GET EVEN COMMENTS TO US OR STAFF TO REALLY EVALUATE, UM, WHAT IS NECESSARY TO EVALUATE WITH THE TENTATIVE.
TE PLATT IS REALLY THE FIRST PART OF THE PROCESS OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WHERE WE GET TO REALLY EVALUATE THE APPLICATION IS THE ROAD CONNECTIONS, UM, THE, THE DRAINAGE AREAS AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
WE GET DIFFERENT TYPE OF INFORMATION WITH THAT AND THAT'S HOW WE CONDITION AND ASSURE THAT WE'VE GOT.
WHEN WE GET TO THE PLANT DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WE KIND OF KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING AND ALSO WE'LL STILL STICK WITH THE SAME PROCESS THAT THIS WOULD GO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.
UM, WE ALSO EXTEND TERMS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOUR TENTATIVE IS VALID AT THE TIME YOU RECORD YOUR PLATT.
THAT SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT, UM, FOR THE FIVE YEARS BECAUSE ONCE YOU UNDER STATE CODE, ONCE YOU, UM, RECORD THAT FINAL PLAT UNDERNEATH THAT TENTATIVE, THEN THAT'S RENEWED AUTOMATICALLY.
THE TENTATIVE IS RENEWED, ADDITIONALLY ADDITIONAL FIVE YEARS.
IF YOU THINK OF A LARGER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT TENTATIVE PLAT COULD BE RENEWED FOR YEARS IN THE FUTURE PAST ALL OF US.
UM, I'LL ALSO REQUIRE THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT TO BE VALID AT THE TIME OF FINAL PLATT RECORDATION.
UM, THAT IS OF COURSE BECAUSE THAT PLATT IS BASED UPON WHAT THAT POD SHOWS.
THAT'S WHERE WE GET THE BONDING AND ALL THOSE TYPE THINGS THAT COME FORWARD WITH THE PLATT RECORDATION.
UM, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY DID FLORIDA RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL BY VOTE FIVE TO ZERO.
UM, ONE PERSON SPOKE AT THE HEARING AND REQUESTED TO MEET WITH STAFF TO DISCUSS CHANGES TO TO THE PROPOSAL.
AND THAT REP, REPRESENTATIVE H BAR, UM, THEY HAD SENT AN EMAIL BEFORE THAT MEETING SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK WITH STAFF AND GO OVER THIS.
AND AS THE OTHER ORDINANCE WE, UM, DEFERRED EARLIER TONIGHT.
UM, SO WE COULD GET SOME THINGS STRAIGHT.
UM, MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DID MEET WITH THEM.
WE HAVE RECEIVED COMMENTS, UM, IN REGARDS TO THIS.
SO STAFF DID MAKE CHANGES BASED UPON THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED.
UM, THEY'RE INCLUDED WITHIN YOUR PACKET AND THEY'RE LISTED.
UM, THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE BEING VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT HOW THE GPS SYSTEM WOULD WORK.
INFORMATION THAT REALLY IS OFTEN, AND YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S NOT, UM, A VALUE.
IT IS A VALUE, BUT IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SEE WITH OTHER LOCALITIES.
AND THAT TALKS ABOUT DEVICE TYPE CERTAIN, UH, NUMBER OF SATELLITE SIGNALS TIMESTAMPED.
WE RAN INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL THAN WE FELT WAS NECESSARY IN THAT END.
THE COMMENT RECEIVED FELT WAS NECESSARY.
REMOVE THE NEED FOR ONSITE DISPOSAL LOCATION TO BE SHOWN ON FINAL PLATTS.
THEY'RE GOOD TO HAVE, BUT THOSE LOCATIONS CHANGE.
IT'S MORE IMPORTANT IF IT'S SOMETHING WHERE YOU ALREADY HAVE EXISTING DRAIN FIELDS.
BUT WE REMOVED THE LO THE REQUIREMENT THAT ALL PLATTS HAD TO SHOW THAT.
UM, WE ALSO WAS A SMALL PROBLEM WHERE ONE OF THE APPROVAL STAMP AREAS WAS THREE BY SIX, WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THREE BY FOUR.
LIKE ALL THE REST OF THEM, UM, CHANGED THE SIZE OF THE FINAL PLATFORM.
ORDINANCE CURRENTLY SAYS 16 BY 24, BUT IN INDUSTRY STANDARD'S ABOUT 18 BY 24 AND WAS WHAT THE, UM, CLERK'S OFFICE IS ACCEPTING.
AND ALSO WE CLARIFIED HOW YOU WOULD DEMONSTRATE YOUR LOT SIZE ON A PLATT.
UM, IT SHOULD MEAN SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR LOTS IF YOU'RE UNDER AN ACRE.
AND IF IT'S MORE THAN ACRES, IT SHOULD START BEING ACRES OR PARTS THEREOF.
UM, SO REALLY SOME CHANGES THAT WERE BROUGHT TO US THAT ARE, THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY, UM, FIXES.
UM, AS WITH THE, UM, OTHER THINGS, THERE WERE OTHER STUFF THAT WE, WE THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO DO.
I DON'T KNOW WHY I HAVE THIS DUPLICATED HERE.
UM, BUT, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS REALLY ADDRESSED QUESTIONS, THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY IN THE EXISTING ORDINANCE.
UM, AND THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT IS MUCH LARGER THAN SOME OF THE SUBSTANCE THAT'S IN THERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO INVOLVE SO MANY DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
UM, BUT WE FELT LIKE THESE WERE NECESSARY CHANGES AND SORT OF, UM, HELP KEEP US IN PLACE AS WE, THIS NEXT YEAR HOPEFULLY WE'RE ABLE TO WORK THROUGH THE, THE FULL REWRITE.
UM, WE ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, GETTING THESE GPS UM, POINTS THERE, WE FEEL LIKE IT'S A VALUE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SPLITTING THEIR PROPERTY OR PURCHASING THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SPEND THE MONEY THAT TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY.
YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOUR ACCURACY IS THERE.
UM, WE SHARED WITH YOU OTHER STORIES AND TWO BY TWOS OF WHERE WE'VE SEEN THAT THAT INACCURACY IS OF LED TO PROBLEMS. UM,
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NOT ONLY FOR OUR SYSTEM, BUT PEOPLE, UM, NOT OWNING WHAT THEY THINK THEY DO, UM, AND PAYING ADDITIONAL TAXES ON LAND MORE THAN THEY HAVE, UM, IS THAT STAFF BILLS AND, AND BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.'CAUSE THEY FILL IT TO ENOUGH VALUE AS AN ASSET, NOT JUST TO THE COUNTY AND THE RECORDS AND THE THINGS WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR, BUT ALSO TO THE CITIZENS AND, UH, PURCHASERS OF PROPERTY.
SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU MR. CASH.
JUST REAL QUICK, ONE QUESTION.
SO IT'S ALWAYS BUGGED THE HECK OUT OF ME WHEN WE DO, WE MEASURE, UM, A A LOT IN SQUARE FEET.
UH, SO WHY IS IT IS THAT SOME KIND OF INDUSTRY STAND? WHY DON'T WE DO IT 0.3 ACRES OR 0.1 ACRES OR WHY? I I I WOULD SAY IT'S, UH, FOR THAT IT'S MOST ORDINANCES COME DOWN TO ZONING ORDINANCES IS SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IF YOU THINK OF OUR R ONE DISTRICT OR OUR THREE DISTRICT AND WHAT WE DO FOR OUR PDSS, YOU TYPICALLY FROM A ZONING STANDPOINT, YOU SAY, OH, WELL YOUR MAXIMUM LOT SIZE IS 24.
YOUR MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS 20,000 OR 24,000.
AND WHEN YOU START GETTING SMALLER IN THE AREAS, THE SQUARE FOOT HAS JUST BECOME THE COMMON.
UM, IT DOES REC YOU, YOU DO RECOGNIZE THAT.
IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT CALCULATION.
BUT, UM, MY EXPERIENCE AND WHAT I'VE SEE IN OTHER ORDINANCES, SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR UM, SMALLER IS PRETTY COMMON.
BUT IT IS EASIER WHEN YOU GET TO LARGER ACREAGES, YOU KNOW, AND, AND AGAIN, I'VE SEEN ORDINANCES AND PLASS THAT ARE OVER AN ACRE THAT STILL HAD SQUARE FOOTAGE UNTIL YOU GOT TO LIKE LARGER ACREAGES AND THERE'S STILL ACREAGE.
LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOOD FOR NOW.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I'M GONNA OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
CAN YOU TURN ON THE MR. PIERCE, CAN YOU TURN THE MIC ON? JUST ON THE VERY BOTTOM.
WHERE THE RED BUTTON? THERE YOU GO.
THANK YOU MIKE PARISH 38, 25 WHITEHALL ROAD, DOON, CANADA, VIRGINIA.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE, UH, COMMENTS THAT I MADE ON THE ORDINANCES.
MOST OF 'EM LOOKED LIKE HAD BEEN TAKEN CARE OF, BUT THE MAJOR ONE IS THE GPS COORDINATES REQUIRED ON PLATTS.
UM, SOME CHANGES HAD BEEN MADE, BUT IT'S NOT DEFINED WHICH PLATTS WE NEED GPS COORDINATES ON ALL MAJOR SUBDIVISION.
YES, BUT IT SAYS CERTAIN MINOR OF SUBDIVISIONS.
WELL, WHICH ONES ARE CERTAIN? AND IT DIS INCLUDES, UH, LINE ADJUSTMENTS, WHICH IS FINE.
BUT HOW ABOUT REGULAR BOUNDARY SURVEYS? HOW ABOUT DIVISION OF ONE LOT? TWO LOTS.
OKAY, SO THAT'S NOT, SO WE NEED TO KNOW UPFRONT ARE YOU NEED GPS COORDINATES ON IT OR NOT? AND, UM, THE COST TO GUTS AND CITIZENS FOR THIS IS GONNA BE ADDITIONAL THOUSAND TO $1,500 ON THE SURVEY.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS YOU GOT A TWO ACRE SURVEY, YOU GOTTA PUT COORDINATES ON IT.
NOW THE PRICE IS NOT $700, IT'S 2000, SO THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET IT SURVEYED.
NOW THEY'RE GONNA HAVE HOUSES BUILT TOO CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINES WELLS ON OTHER PROPERTIES BECAUSE IT'S NOT SURVEYED.
SO WE NEED TO DEFINE WHICH PLOTS WE NEED GPS COORDINATES ON.
AND THE COST TO THOSE IS EXTREMELY HIGH.
AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE US TO POSTPONE THIS ORDINANCE AND, AND TO TAKE IT UP THE SAME TIME WE TAKE ACCESS MANAGEMENT TO GIVE ME AND OTHER PEOPLE IN MY FIELD A TIME TO TALK WITH STAFF TO WORK THESE THINGS OUT.
AND, UH, IT'S A REAL MAJOR CONCERN AND I THINK IT'S A DISSERVICE TO THE CITIZENS OF GSON COUNTY TO HAVE TO PAY THAT ADDITIONAL COST, ESPECIALLY IN THE FALL WEST END OF THE COUNTY.
ANYBODY ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK TO ANY HERE? UM, I WOULD SAY THAT AS A LOCALITY, GLAND'S NOT ASKING ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S BECOME INDUSTRY STANDARD.
AND OUR SURROUNDING PEER LOCALITIES HAVE THIS PROVISION AND REQUIREMENT.
UM, WE'RE PUTTING IN ADDITIONAL PROVISION TO ALLOW THE CONTINUATION OF CERTAIN COMBINED PLATTS, UM, WHERE YOU CAN USE THOSE FOR, UM, THOSE WITHIN THE PAST, UM, 10 YEARS.
UM, STAFF ORIGINALLY TALKED AS A 10 YEAR WINDOW.
WE LOCKED IT IN AT 2013, SO THAT WOULD CARRY FORWARD THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.
UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? YOU, YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT, BUT I IT'S NOT REALLY, IT'S GETTING LATE.
IT'S NOT LANDING WHAT THAT IS.
SO, UM, WELL THE, WHEN WE, WE WERE ORIGINALLY WORKING WITH OUR GIS DEPARTMENT AND WORKING ON THIS PROPOSAL, UM, AND DOING CONSIDERATIONS OF, OKAY, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE GOTTA FIND A WAY THAT
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YOU CAN ALLOW CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS FOR PLASTICS TO CONTINUE.UM, PART OF THE EVALUATION WAS DETERMINING, WELL, WHAT'S A GOOD START POINT BASED UPON INFORMATION THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, 10 YEAR WINDOW WAS WHAT WAS THOUGHT, UM, STAFF FELT IT WAS PLANNING STAFF OF DEATH.
IF IT'S A 10 YEAR WINDOW, WE'D RATHER HAVE AN ORDINANCE BASED STA START POINT RATHER THAN, SAY THE 10 YEAR WINDOW MOVES EVERY MONTH.
IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR PLATT IN BY THIS DATE, NOW YOUR PLATS VOID ARE VAL INVALID.
UM, PART OF THAT WAS BASED UPON THE INFORMATION THE, THAT WE'VE SEEN THE USE OF A GIS SYSTEM IN THE COUNTY, THE COMMONALITY OF GPS WITHIN OUR PEER LOCALITIES AROUND THAT SAME TIME, AND THE INDUSTRY STANDARD OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING FOR MORE MODERN PLATTS.
UM, WHAT YOU OFTEN SEE IN COMPILED PLATTS IS INFORMATION THAT ARE BASED UPON SURVEYS THAT WERE DONE LONG YEARS AGO, UM, THAT OFTEN REFERENCE MARKERS THAT AREN'T AROUND ANYMORE.
AND SO WHAT STAFF FOUND IS IN THE GIS PARTICULAR STAFF IS PARCELS DON'T CLOSE, PROPERTIES DON'T CLOSE.
UM, SO YOU DON'T HAVE, UH, PROPER BOUNDARIES ESTABLISHED WHERE SOMETHING IS INCORRECT ON ONE PLANET CARRIES FORWARD IN THE FUTURE AND TO OTHER SYSTEMS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE INFORMATION WHERE THERE IS VALID VERIFIED POINTS THAT ARE WE SEE ON THERE.
THEY ALSO INCLUDE, THEY TIE INTO ON OUR SYSTEM TO OTHER VALID POINTS, UM, THROUGH, THERE WAS THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE CERTAIN STA CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE YOU'RE MOVE IN LINES AROUND INTERNALLY TO A PROPERTY OR THAT ARE ESTABLISHED BOUNDARIES AND THE LIKE, THAT YOU DON'T NEED TO HAVE POTENTIALLY THE, THE G-P-I-G-P-S SYSTEM.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, FOR THE DIRECTION THAT, UH, WE FEEL LIKE AS A STAFF AND OUR GIS DEPARTMENT WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD, WE FELT LIKE THE GPS POINT SYSTEM WOULD JUST SEEM, BECOME SO COMMON, SEEMED TO BE NECESSARY, UM, IMPROVEMENT.
MR. K, MR. WATER? UH, I, I UNDERSTAND THE THINKING FOR THE EASTERN PART, EVEN, YOU KNOW, OF THE COUNTY, EVEN ALL THE WAY WEST TO COURTHOUSE, BUT I, I MEAN, I'M THINKING OF THE MORE RURAL AREAS WHERE AVERAGE PARCEL SIZE IS PROBABLY 10 X OF SOME PLACES IN THE EAST.
UM, IS, ARE THERE TOO MANY EXCEPTIONS TO ADD TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE? I MEAN, WOULD IT JUST BE TOO CUMBERSOME OR CAN WE, IF WE, IF WE'VE ALREADY GOT, UH, NUMBER 10, WHICH WE PUSHED TO THE FIRST POINT AND BEING DEFERRED TILL FEBRUARY, NOT TRYING TO ON THE FLY, MAYBE HAVE AN AMENDED, AMENDED VERBIAGE, BUT MAKING SURE OVER THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, TWO MONTHS IT ALL TICKS AND TIES AND IT'S CLEAN AND THIS ONE DOES TICK AND TIE AND, AND IS CLEAN.
I, I, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT, I'M THINKING OF THE PRICE ELEMENT, UH, IN PARTICULAR THAT MR. MR. PARISH MENTIONED.
AND AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT APPLY IF YOU WANNA SELL ME 10 ACRES, CHARLIE, WHAT, WHAT YOU AND I DO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS ORDINANCE.
IT DOES NOT APPLY TO INDIVIDUAL TRANSFERS AT ALL.
WHAT IT APPLIES TO IS IF YOU WANNA TAKE 20 ACRES AND SUBDIVIDE IT.
AND SO YOU ARE A, YOU ARE SUBDIVIDING THAT PROPERTY PRESUMABLY FOR DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO IT'S REALLY A DEVELOPER COST MUCH MORE THAN AN INDIVIDUAL COST, THOUGH DEVELOPERS DO RUN THEIR COSTS ON THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
AND THIS IS WHAT I, I'D LIKE YOU TO SORT OF ADDRESS AND PIGGYBACKING MR. BAR.
EVEN IN THE PRESENTATION, IT DIDN'T CLEARLY STATE WHAT DO I NEED TO GET GPS COORDINATES FOR IT TO MR. PARISH'S POINT.
SO I WOULD FEEL A LOT BETTER ABOUT MOVING FORWARD AT ANSWERING THAT QUESTION IN THESE, I GET VERY WORRIED WHEN THERE'S SUBJECTIVITY INVOLVED IN SOMEBODY IN GOVERNMENT TELLING SOMEBODY HOW THEY HACK CAN BILL OR WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
SO CAN WE DEFINITIVELY ANSWER AND, AND WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE OVER THE WEEKEND, I WASN'T SURE THAT I, I REALLY DAWNED ON ME, WHICH IS A SECOND POINT THAT I'LL BRING UP LATER.
UM, WHAT THE ANSWER TO THAT WAS? SO I, I THINK I SAW SOMETHING.
IT WAS, UH, VACATING BOUNDARIES.
LIKE DO WE, DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT IS TO WELL, UM, I MEAN, A FAMILY SUBDIVISION IS, IS A MINOR SUBDIVISION, SO IT WOULD STILL BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME REQUIREMENTS.
IT IS THE DIVISION OF PROPERTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THIS LOCALITY, THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS ON, ON WHEN THAT GETS TRANSFERRED TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
UM, FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ANOTHER FIX.
THE COUNTY IS WE APPROACH TO PROTECT FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS HERE.
UM, SO A DIVISION OF PROPERTY AUTOMATICALLY WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S REQUIRED TO, UM, UTILIZE THE, THE, THE GPS COORDINATES SYSTEM.
UM, THE REASON WE PROVIDED THE PROVISION IN THE EXCEPTION WAS FOR MINOR
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SUBDIVISIONS WHERE YOU ALREADY HAD THOSE TYPE OF USES THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THAT ADDITIONAL THING.AND TYPICALLY THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU'VE GOT YOUR OUTSIDE SQUARE POINTS ALREADY DETERMINED AND WHERE YOU'RE CONNECTED, YOU'VE GOT OTHER DATA THAT HELPS YOU DETERMINE THAT.
JUST A TRADITIONAL SURVEY, UM, WHERE YOU'VE GOT MORE VALID INFORMATION FROM MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, AND THAT WAS UNDER, THAT'LL BE THE UNDER FIVE LOTS SCENARIO.
UM, VACATION PLAS, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THOSE ARE ONES TYPICALLY WHERE YOU'RE REMOVING, UH, REMOVING A LINE FOR THE SCENARIO.
SO YOUR OTHER BOUNDARIES THINGS STAY THE SAME.
UM, VACATION PLATS IN GENERAL UNDER OUR ORDINANCE NEED TO BE FIXED.
THEY'RE REALLY OUT OF LINE WITH SOME OF THE STATE CODE PROVISIONS AND STANDARDS THAT YOU DO.
UM, BUT WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T BE APPROACHED WITH THIS ORDINANCE.
SO THEN IS THE ACCURATE STATEMENT, ANYTIME I GO TO SUBDIVE MY LAND, I NEED GPS COORDINATES UNLESS I GET A WAIVER OR, UH RIGHT.
UNLESS YOU FALL UNDER THAT MINOR CATEGORY, THE MINOR FAMILY CATEGORY.
WHERE IS THAT MINOR, WHERE IS THAT MINOR CATEGORY IN THE, IN THE ORDINANCE? I'M LOOKING AT ARTICLE SIX UNDER ARTICLE, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY MR. PARRISH IS MR. PARISH'S COMPLAINT IS THAT THERE'S, SO IT START ON PAGE FOUR 10, IS THAT THE RIGHT, UM, YEAH.
THAT'S WHERE ARTICLE SIX, MINOR SUBDIVISION STARTS AND IT SAYS SECTION ONE, TWO, AND THREE OF SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE ARE HEREBY AMENDED AS FOLLOWS.
SO PAGE FOUR 11, IT TALKS ABOUT THE COORDINATE POINTS THAT ARE NEEDED AND FOR THE TIMES OF ACCURACY.
AND THEN SURVEYS USING ONLY CORNER POINTS ARE PERMIT IF THE CORNER POINTS ARE ESTABLISHED BY THE RECORDED, WHERE YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE, MIDDLE OF THE PAGE.
THE DATE OF ALL OCCURS LONG C ARE ARE RECORDED.
UM, THAT'S, AND SO, RIGHT, AND THAT'S IT.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE DONE AT AND THAT'S UNDER THE MINOR PLATT PORTION OF THE, OF THE ORDINANCE TO I THINK, I THINK WE'RE ALL TRYING TO, I THOUGHT IS, IS THERE, IS THERE, IS THERE SUBJECTIVITY TO WHEN A MINOR SUBDIVISION WILL REQUIRE A PLAT WITH GPS COORDINATES? IS, IS THERE, IS THERE ANY SUBJECTIVITY IN THIS? I'M, LOOK, I'M LOOKING THAT DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE IT.
THE, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THE CUTOFF DATE OF THE 2013 THAT THAT'S NOT SUBJECTIVE.
THE OTHER PORTION, UNLESS WE DETERMINE THAT THE RELIED UPON CORNER POINTS ARE NOT ESTABLISHED BY A PREVIOUS FIELD SURVEY OR NOT CONSISTENT WITH OTHER AVAILABLE DATA.
UM, THE NEXT, THE SENTENCE CONTINUES UNLESS DETERMINES IS YOUR SUBJECTIVE WORD.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT TO BE INTENDED TO BE WILLY-NILLY.
UM, IT'S THAT THE INFORMATION THAT COMES IN WITH THAT SURVEY IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH OTHER DATA THAT'S OUT THERE.
THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT, IT'S JUST THAT YOU HAVE A COMPILED PLATT, A COMPILED PLATT, AND THEY DON'T, THERE'S NO LONGER POINTS THAT SORT OF VERIFY THEY ARE VERIFIABLE.
I, I DON'T, I'M NOT, UH, THIS IS NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT AS THAT SUBJECTIVE.
I MEAN IT'S, YOU, YOU, YOU, I MEAN, AND THEN, AND THEN THE APPLICANT COULD, SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO AVOID THIS COULD COME IN AND SAY, HERE'S THE PREVIOUS FIELD SURVEY OR, OR HERE IS, UM, HERE'S OTHER DATA.
I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT WHERE YOU GET THIS OTHER DATA? IS THAT, IS THAT A BIG, IS THAT, UM, WELL, THAT WOULD BE BASED UPON OTHER RECORDED DATA, WHICH WOULD BE, UM, NEIGHBORING OTHER BUILDING DATA.
THAT'S ANOTHER SURVEY'S DONE ON NEIGHBORING PARCELS AND THINGS.
I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TRYING, UH, TRYING TO GET DONE FOR, UM, FOR A, A LONG WHILE AND, AND IT'S MANIFESTED AT THE, THE PROBLEMS ARE MANIFESTING THEMSELVES IN DISCREPANCIES.
AND, AND TO ME, THIS, THIS IS, I THINK Y'ALL KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING I WAS HOPING TO SEE GET DONE ON MY WATCH.
I MEAN, IT'S REALLY, IT'S BEEN OVER TWO YEARS AND I, I, MY SENSE WAS WE WERE PRETTY, WE WE LEFT SOME, SOME GOOD EXCEPTIONS IN THIS.
AND WE'RE JUST BRINGING OURSELVES WITH CURRENT PRACTICE.
I MEAN, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT JUST A REAL ESTATE LAWYER, BUT I'VE DONE REAL ESTATE, UM, AND
THIS, MY, MY ANECDOTAL SENSE IS THIS IS STANDARD PRACTICE THAT IS ADOPTED IN CERTAINLY IN, IN, IN THIS REGION AND, AND IN MORE POPULATED AREAS AND, AND NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A STRUGGLE TO SEE OUR GIS DATA SO MISALIGNED WITH, UM, OUR LAND RECORDS.
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SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME.MR. LOKO, THAT'S THE, I HEAR THAT ANECDOTALLY.
I HEAR THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS SWEEPING CHANGE IN FOR EVERYBODY THAT WANTS TO VACATE A PLATT LINE TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT HAS NOT BEEN QUANTIFIED.
WE HAVE NOT, I'VE HEARD, I'VE HEARD A COUPLE EXAMPLES.
SOMEBODY'S PAYING FOR EIGHT ACRES AND THEY ONLY OWNED ONE.
DO DO WE, DO WE HAVE, I MEAN, THIS IS A FIX GOING FORWARD.
DO WE HAVE TO SHOW HOW MESSED UP THINGS ARE TO START DOING THINGS RIGHT? IF WE'RE GONNA INCREASE COST TO CITIZENS AND CRAVE MORE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT? YES, I THINK SO.
IT, IT, WELL THAT'S SORT OF A PHILOSOPHICAL DEBATE.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE CRA IT'S, IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JU IT'S STANDARD PRACTICE THAT MAKES SENSE.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA FEED MORE AND MORE DATA.
I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE, I MEAN IT'S, I'M, I'M KIND OF FEEL LIKE I'M ARGUING, UH, DISCUSSING, WE'RE DISCUSSING, DISCUSSING WITH LET ME, CAN I ASK A FOLLOW UP QUESTION? BECAUSE THERE'S THAT, YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT, RIGHT? SO MR. CASH, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, YOU SAID ONE OF THE REA YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THE, WHERE WE'VE SEEN MISTAKES IN THE LINES OR WHATEVER, OR SOMETHING HAPPENS MM-HMM.
BUT ONE OF THE OTHER PIECES THAT YOU REALLY SPOKE TO, WHICH REALLY AS A TECH GUY REALLY SPOKE TO ME, WHICH WAS ENSURING THAT WE HAD THE RIGHT INPUTS TO, TO, TO IMPROVE OUR TECHNOLOGY, TO MAKE IT EASIER SO THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COULD, I THINK YOU SAID, SUBMIT, UH, PLATTS ELECTRONICALLY OR GO FOR D AND MM-HMM.
AND THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW, UM, YOU WERE ABLE TO, UM, PULL BACK ON SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TYPES OF GPS MACHINES.
ARE WE SURE WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE DONE THAT NOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MEET OUR GOAL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
RIGHT? WELL, WHAT WE RECOGNIZE IS THAT OTHER ORDINANCES IN OUR REGION DON'T GO INTO THAT LEVEL OF EXTREME.
THIS IS, UM, YOU NEED TO TELL US ALL THIS OTHER INFORMATION SPELLED OUT THERE.
UM, IN, IN THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.
UM, YOU KNOW, AT A CERTAIN POINT YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOTTA EVALUATE THAT IT HAS A SUFFICIENT GPS COORDINATES.
IT MATCHES UP, UM, WITH OTHER AVAILABLE DATA MEETS THE DATA IN PLANE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S PART OF, UH, WHAT COMES FORWARD IS, UH, I, WE DIDN'T DISAGREE WITH MR. PARISH'S COMMENTS THAT THOSE UNNECESSARY FOR US TO SEEM THAT WE WERE, UH, BUR BURROWING DOWN SO FAR IN THERE.
UM, AND SO MANY THINGS THAT SOMEBODY SAYS, YOU'RE, WELL, I I'M NOT SURE THAT YOU PROVIDED THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WAS SUFFICIENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY TALKING TO THE OTHER STUFF IS WE DO FREQUENTLY TIMES, UH, THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, OUR GIS REPS AREN'T HERE TONIGHT FOR DOING THAT, BUT IT, IT'S A LOT OF TIMES THAT WE SPEND TRYING TO, TO FIT THE TRIANGLES BACK TOGETHER OR MAKING THINGS GO, UM, FOR THAT.
AND THE WAY THE TECHNOLOGY IS, MAKING SURE YOU HAVE THE RIGHT FORMATS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WAS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT.
SO WHEN YOU OVERLAY TO GET THE FIT, UM, SURE, I'M NOT A POSITIVE PERSON.
I, I'M NOT
UM, THE, THE OTHER PIECE TO ME, AND SORRY, I'M GETTING, UM, A LITTLE, UM, TALKATIVE.
UM, UM, WHEN I WENT THROUGH BOTH THE, THE ORDINANCE, UH, WHEN I SPENT, YOU KNOW, A GOOD PORTION OF THIS WEEKEND GOING THROUGH BOTH THE ORDINANCES THAT WE LOOKED AT, AGAIN, I DON'T DO THIS FOR A LIVING.
I, I COULDN'T DO IT WAS, HAS TO BE DONE BY ENGINEERS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR ME, LIKE, IT FEELS LIKE, LIKE DO WE HAVE A PRO, IF I COME TO DO SOMETHING IN GLAND COUNTY, LIKE IS THERE A CHECKLIST THAT FLOWS? YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO FOLKS IN OTHER LOCALITIES MM-HMM.
OH, YOU NEED THIS, YOU DON'T NEED THIS.
IT FEELS LIKE WE, WE JUST DID A LOT OF GREAT WORK FOR OUR PERMITTING SOFTWARE, RIGHT? THAT IT'S, IT'S VERY MUCH A, A VERY WELL DEFINED PROCESS THAT ANYBODY CAN ACCESS.
UM, ALSO TO MODERNIZE WHAT WE WERE GETTING, RIGHT? UM, SO THAT WAS THE FIRST STEP OF THE PROCESS FOR THAT.
UM, PART OF WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE OVERALL REVIEW FLOW AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING IS ON OUR WEBSITE AND SORT OF DEFINED BY STATE, UH, CODE, HOW YOU DO CERTAIN THINGS PROCESS.
SO YOU'RE SAYING PROCESS SAYING THERE IS SOMETHING THERE TO HELP NAVIGATE, UH, UH, NAVIGATE THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ONCE THIS IS ADOPTED, HOPEFULLY, OR WHATEVER WE'RE DIRECTED TO
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DO, UM, THIS CHECKLIST WOULD BE UP AVAILABLE ON OUR, OUR WEBSITE IN A MUCH CLEANER FORM THAN THIS MARKUP AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE.UM, I WOULD NOTE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING I AND MY TEAM FOR THAT DO POD AND FOR REVIEW IS, IS PART OF IT'S, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT CHECKLIST UP TO DATE WITH THIS INTER GOV SYSTEM BECAUSE WE WANT INTER GOV TO, TO BE RECEIVING OF THOSE.
AS PART OF THAT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE OUR CHECKLISTS ARE UP TO DATE.
AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT PROCESS FOR POD RIGHT NOW.
SO, SO THE WAY I SEE THIS, AND I'LL, I'LL, I'LL STOP TALKING NOW.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK MY VOICE IS GONNA GIVE OUT ANYWAY.
THERE'S, THERE'S TWO WAYS TO APPROACH THIS, RIGHT? WE, WE APPROVE THIS TONIGHT.
THE COMMITTEE IS DOING THIS, SEES A LOT OF PROBLEMS. SO YOU'RE GONNA GET IT INUNDATED WITH REQUESTS, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, BRIEF, BRIEF TO FIX WHAT WE, WHAT WE DID HERE TONIGHT.
OR WE TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT THESE TWO THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
LET'S TAKE A COUPLE MONTHS, WE, AND THEN DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT STILL EXISTS.
SO IT'S WHICH PROBLEMS DO YOU WANNA DEAL WITH? AND I AM VERY, UM, I'M VERY PROTECTIVE OF STAFF'S TIME.
WE CHOOSE TO RUN A LEAN ORGANIZATION.
AND SO MY GOAL AS SOMEBODY UP HERE IS TO ALSO ENSURE THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO YOU TO SAY, WHICH IS THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS.
MAY I, WAS THAT A QUESTION TO YES, THAT WAS A QUESTION.
BUT, BUT MAY I JUST OFFER IT'S A FALSE CHOICE.
THANK YOU FOR BOTH, FOR SETTING ME UP.
NOW, UH, WELL IT'S, LET, LET ME JUST SAY IT'S A FALSE CHOICE BECAUSE YOU, YOU JUST DESCRIBED WE PASS THIS AND THEN WE CLEAN UP THE PROBLEMS OR WE POSTPONE AND WE FIX THINGS, WE CLEAN THE PROBLEMS AND THEN PASS IT.
HERE'S, HERE'S MY OTHER CHOICE.
MY CHOICE IS THIS IS RIGHT AND WE PASS IT.
SO, SO, AND, AND, AND WE'VE, THIS IS, THIS HAS BEEN WORKED ON FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
STAFF TALK ABOUT STAFF, AGAIN, IF IT'S NOT RIGHT, WE SHOULD FIX IT AND STAFF NEEDS TO SPEND MORE TIME.
BUT I'M NOT CONVINCED IT'S NOT RIGHT.
IT'S, IT'S MAYBE OBJECTIONABLE BECAUSE PEOPLE SAY IT'S GONNA SOMETHING, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE A MESS THAT WE NEED TO CLEAN UP SOMETHING LATER OR, OR I HAVEN'T, THAT HASN'T BEEN PROVEN TO ME.
SO I I SAY IT'S A FALSE CHOICE TO LIKE PASS THIS AND FIX IT OR FIX IT AND PASS IT, BUT IT'S A FALSE SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A FALSE ASSUMPTION THAT I FALSE ASSUMPTION.
I MEAN, YOU COULD BE RIGHT, BUT I SAY THERE'S A THIRD OPTION.
WE PASS IT AND THEN WE ROCK AND ROLL IT.
I'LL SAY, I'LL SAY, UM, YES, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THAT.
WE'VE, WE'VE SHARED THIS WITH DEVELOPMENT CUNY WE'VE ALSO BENCHMARK OTHER LOCALITIES WHEN WE DID THAT WITH, TO REALLY MAKE SURE WE WERE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BEFORE MAKING SUCH A CHANGE.
I I CAN NEVER SAY I'M PERFECT.
LOTS OF PEOPLE DO SAY I AM, BUT NOT
UM, BUT I, I DO THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS OF VALUE TO US AND WE ARE GETTING READY TO GO THROUGH A DIVISION REWRITE THIS NEXT YEAR THAT'S GONNA EVALUATE OTHER THINGS.
BUT, UM, STEPH FELT THIS IS SOMETHING LONG TERM COMING AND WE WOULD HOPE TO, UM, ADDRESS AT LEAST PART OF THAT CONCERN.
BUT I, AGAIN, WE'LL TAKE THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD.
I UNDERSTAND THAT JENNY CRUZ, IT'S A COM THIS, I KNOW THIS IS COMPLICATED.
AND SO THERE ARE, I THINK THAT'S TAKEN SO LONG.
'CAUSE THERE'S LOTS, BECAUSE VDOT, WHEN YOU DO A ROAD, VDOT REQUIRES GPS COORDINATES, DO THEY NOT? YES.
SO IF YOU'RE DOING A ROAD IN ANY KI ANY KIND OF PUBLIC ROAD, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO GIS COORDINATES.
RIGHT? SO ALSO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE ANYTHING FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT HAS TO HAVE THESE COORDINATES ANYWAY.
AND THAT THAT, AND THAT DOES INCLUDE SOME MINE OR SUBDIVISIONS.
SO, SO LET ME FOLLOW UP ON THAT, MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
SO IS IS THAT DATA GETTING INTO OUR GIS SYSTEM? SO IT'S REQUIRED ON PLANS OF DEVELOPMENT BUT NOT CURRENTLY REQUIRED ON PLATS.
SOMETIMES WE DO GET IT BECAUSE IT, AGAIN, INDUSTRY STANDARDS, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS GETTING IT TRANSFERRED.
THERE'S A GAP THEN THAT WE'RE MAYBE FIXING WITH THIS CHANGE, CORRECT? I WOULD SAY YES BECAUSE FOLKS, IF YOU'RE DOING A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, THEY ALREADY HAVE TO CAPTURE THIS DATA AND PUT IT ON A POD, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED RIGHT NOW TO PUT IT ON A PLAT, IT NEVER MAKES IT TO OUR GIS.
BUT THEY'VE GOT THAT DATA, RIGHT? I I WOULD SAY THE VAST MAJORITY OF LARGE DEVELOPMENTS, IT JUST TRANSFERS AUTOMATICALLY BECAUSE IT IS INDUSTRY STANDARD.
BUT THE TIMES WHERE I THINK WE DO SEE IT CREATE THAT GAP IS IN THE MINOR SUBDIVISIONS BECAUSE WE DON'T CURRENTLY REQUIRE BY CODE.
BUT THEY HAVE TO DO A POD IN SOME CASES FOR MINOR SUBDIVISIONS.
SO IS IT POSSIBLE TO, DOES THIS ORDINANCE LINE UP A LINE UP, LIKE IF YOU NEED A PO LET ME REPHRASE THAT.
WHAT WE'RE REQUIRING IS GOING TO REQUIRE MORE WORK IN CASES WHERE THIS ORDINANCE, THE NEW ORDINANCE APPLIES, BUT NO POD IS REQUIRED.
IS THERE A, IS THERE A GAP? LIKE THERE ARE PLENTY OF TIMES WHERE NO POD IS REQUIRED AND NOW, NOW THEY'LL HAVE GGPS REQUIREMENTS.
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ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT'S ON, UH, ON MY DESK.IT'S A FOUR LOT SUBDIVISION PROPOSED ON WHITEHALL ROAD.
I THINK IT'S ON WHITEHALL ROAD.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE PLAT CURRENTLY HAS GPS COORDINATES.
'CAUSE WE DON'T CURRENTLY REQUIRE THEM.
AND THERE'S NO POD BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO BUILD A ROAD.
SO IN THAT CASE, THIS, YOU WOULD HAVE, THAT WOULD BE, THEY HAVE TO, WOULD THEN START REQUIRING COORDINATES ON THOSE TYPES OF PLATTS.
AND THAT'S NOT UNDER ONE OF YOUR EXCEPTIONS.
LIKE IF, WHAT IF ALL THE N NEIGHBOR, UNLESS THEY HAD A RECENT PLAT FROM 2013 OR OR MORE, MORE RECENT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO GET THOSE FIELD COORDINATES IN THE FORD DIVISION THAT THEY'RE CATCHING ALL THE POINTS.
SAY THAT AGAIN? IT'S UN HE, HE WAS SAYING IT WAS UN IT'S, IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, IT WOULD BE UNLIKELY THAT IF THEY'RE DOING A BUYRIGHT SPLIT THAT THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY IS NOT HAVING SEEN DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THOSE POINTS LIKELY DO NOT EXIST CURRENTLY.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? IT DOES.
AND JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ON THE POD, THOSE CAN CHANGE OVER TIME.
IT'S THE RECORDED INSTRUMENT IS WHAT CREATES YOUR GIS AS ABSOLUTELY.
THEY'RE ON THE PD, BUT IF THAT'S NOT, IF THAT'S NOT TAKEN ANYWHERE, THEN WE'VE, WE'VE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DATA THAT WAS DONE ACTUALLY IN THE SYSTEM.
SO YEAH, I MEAN I JUST THINK THIS IS MOVING IN SUCH THE RIGHT DIRECTION THAT I I URGED IT, I URGED IT THAT, IS THAT A MOTION
WELL, IT'S OUR LAST NIGHT FOR SOME OF US.
WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO LEAVE
WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF TO TRY TO DRAW IT OUT FURTHER FOR YOU? IS THAT WHAT YOU NEED? ALL RIGHT.
MY LAST MOTION HERE, I, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD, RICHLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ZOA 2023 DASH 0 0 0 4 RELATING TO SUBDIVISION PLATT REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOTIONED AND SECONDED FOR THE DISCUSSION.
SEE, Y KNEW YOUR WORK DONE YET.
I, I JUST, UH, JUST SO, UH, MR. GOEN MEN MENTIONED BUY RIGHT SPLITS.
SO THESE ARE, THIS WOULD BE REQUIRED IN A BUYRIGHT SPLIT UNLESS THEY HAVE THOSE RECENT PLATS.
AND YOU'RE SAYING RECENT IS 2013? CORRECT? IS THAT A STATIC DATE? IT'S A STATIC DATE.
WE PICKED 10 YEARS FROM THE TIME OF REWRITING THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE.
ORIGINALLY WE CONSIDERED A ROLLING 10 YEAR WINDOW, BUT WE FELT THAT THAT WAS 2013 IS IN AND AROUND WHEN THE INDUSTRY STARTED TAKING GPS COORDINATES AS KIND OF A STANDARD AND OTHER LOCALITIES STARTED ADOPTING THESE TYPES OF ORDINANCES AND, AND THESE TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS.
SO IF IT WAS A ROLLING 10 YEAR WINDOW, A PLATFORM 2015 AND 2026 WOULD NO LONGER BE VALID.
AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS UNFAIR.
SO WE DO NOT HAVE TO DO THIS FOR A MINOR SUBDIVISION.
IT WOULD BE A MINOR SUBDIVISION.
IF IT HAS THE RECENT PLATTS SURROUNDING IT, THE THE 2013 DATE THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED YOU, WOULD YOU, WOULD I CORRECT.
THAT IS COMPLETELY WOULD BE REQUIRED.
IT WOULD BE NOT WHAT UNDERSTOOD.
SO IT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR ALL MINOR SUBDIVISIONS UNLESS THERE'S, UH, INFORMATION ON NEIGHBORING PARCELS OR THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL FROM 2013 OR TO TODAY.
I I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS NOT MINOR SUBDIVISIONS AND I'D NEVER HEARD BY RIGHT SPLITS.
THEY'RE STILL CONSIDERED MINOR SUBDIVISIONS.
I'M HAPPY TO TURN IT OVER TO MR. CASH AS WELL.
YEAH, I MEAN WE'VE ALWAYS HAD THAT CAVEAT AS TO IT WAS ONLY A CERTAIN MINOR SUBDIVISION, SO IT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD MEET THAT CONDITION AND THAT'D BE THE ONES THAT MET THE POINT COORDINATES, UM, EXCEPTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER.
SO BECAUSE ANYTIME YOU'RE DIVIDING A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S A NEW ASSET, UH, AND THAT HAS CREATES NEW BOUNDARIES IN ITSELF THAT REALLY AFFECTS THE SYSTEM.
WHAT'S EXEMPT IS THE ONES WHERE YOU CAN, UM, WE HAVE THOSE POINTS, CORNER POINTS THAT ALREADY EXIST AND THEY CAN BE UTILIZED TO CREATE THE PLA.
UM, AND SINCE THE, SINCE 2013, WAS THAT 13 AND LATER JANUARY 1ST, 2013 FORWARD.
CAN I, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME THE MORE WE DO THIS, THE FEWER EXCEPTIONS WE HAVE BECAUSE WE'VE DONE MORE AND MORE AND WE'VE JUST ADDED TO THE DATABASE ON THESE NEIGHBORING PARCELS, CORRECT? RIGHT.
SO IF YOU HAVE A PLOT THAT SINCE THEN AND YOU HAVE THE EXISTING ENDPOINT THAT YOU'RE BUILDING OFF OF, SO FOR THAT, FOR FIELD SURVEY JOHN VISOR LEVEL, YOU START FILLING IN THE SYSTEM ITSELF.
AND SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU SURVEY ONE PROPERTY.
YOU GET THE INFORMATION FOR THE OTHER DATA IS GONNA TREND ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
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ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.IF WE PASS THIS, WE'RE CLEANING UP THINGS.
IF WE DON'T PASS IT, I THINK WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TRACKING DOWN, YOU KNOW, PERPETUATING ERRORS.
BUT, BUT YOU'RE EXPONENTIALLY CLEANER WITH EACH, WELL MAYBE NOT EXPONENTIALLY, BUT YOU'RE MARGINALLY, UH, ON THE MARGIN.
IT'S YOU'RE CLEANER AND CLEANER AND CLEANER WITH EACH NEIGHBORING PROPERTY THAT YOU'VE FIXED THIS WITH.
BUT, BUT TO MS. LAS LETT'S POINT, I THINK ARE, ARE WE GONNA BE PUTTING A A PRETTY EXPENSIVE BURDEN ON, ON, ON, YOU KNOW, THE EARLIER, THE EARLIER FOLKS THAT ARE DOING THIS.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY LATER PEOPLE WILL BENEFIT WHEN THEIR NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, HAS AND NEIGHBORS HAVE DONE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, AND SO
UM, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, ONE OF THE OBJECTIVES HERE IS TO BRING US MORE IN LINE WITH STATE CODE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE ATTRACTIVE FEATURES.
UM, A SECOND WOULD BE, RIGHT? PART OF IT IS BRING A STATE CODE CODE.
UM, ANOTHER PIECE WOULD BE TO USE LEVERAGE TECHNOLOGY TO MAKE POTENTIALLY STAFF'S JOB FASTER, CHEAPER, AND EASIER.
THE RUB BECOMES WHEN YOU SUPERIMPOSE THAT ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE ON CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES.
AND I THINK FOR THE VAST MAJORITY THAT ARE THE LARGER ONES DOING LARGER RPU DSS AND PLANS OF DEVELOPMENT AND ALL, THAT'S NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
IT'S WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE SMALLER, LESS EXPENSIVE TRANSACTIONS THAT MAKE IT OVERBURDENED WITH SOMETHING VERY EXPENSIVE.
SO IT REALLY STRIKES ME THAT WE'RE REALLY JUST GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES ON THOSE EXCEPTIONS, BUT BRINGING US IN LINE WITH STATE CODE USING TECHNOLOGY, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE ARE NOT GONNA BE AN ISSUE.
A LOT OF IT'S ALREADY BEING DONE, BUT IT'S THOSE, IT'S THOSE FEW EXCEPTIONS.
AND WE, AND WE KIND OF NEED TO GET THOSE RIGHT.
AND I DON'T KNOW, AGAIN, WHETHER THAT'S THE FIX IT LATER OR FIX IT NOW THING, BUT, BUT IT'S REALLY JUST WHEN YOU PUT IT ON THE PRIVATE SECTOR, YOU PUT IT ON CITIZENS, YOU PUT IT ON DEVELOPERS WHERE THEY'RE DOING SMALL TRANSACTIONS, YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO OVERBURDEN THEM.
THAT'LL BE AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
AND IN GOVERNMENT HEAVY HAND IS SOMETHING WE TRY TO AVOID.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING OUT ON THIS.
I, I, I DON'T, I'M ALL FOR BRINGING THIS UP TO WHERE THINGS NEED TO BE.
I DON'T GET REALLY EXCITED ABOUT KEEPING UP OTHER NEIGHBORS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
WE'RE GLAND AND WE'RE GOIN FOR A REASON.
UM, I JUST, I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK.
SO YES, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME, BUT THIS HAS BEEN SHELVED FOR A LONG TIME.
SO, AND YES, IT WAS PREDATED ME.
UM, I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS AS I WAS CAMPAIGNING, UM, AND I JUST KIND OF FELT LIKE YOU'VE GIVEN A COUPLE MONTHS TO GET THE RIGHT FEEDBACK.
WE SAW TONIGHT SOMETHING I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SAW A HUGE SUBDIVISION GOT NOTHING, BUT IT'S COMING.
BUT WHY? BECAUSE THEY TALK TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
THE RIGHT PEOPLE TALK TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE AHEAD OF TIME.
AND I THINK, I THINK THAT'S WORTH SOMETHING.
CAN I, ANOTHER MOTION? SO THE MOTION IS TO ADOPT AS PRESENTED, CORRECT.
CAN YOU SECOND? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
DO YOU WANNA D YOU WANNA D WELL, OR NO, IT PASSED.
WELL, WE'RE ON AN INTERESTING ONE.
SUSAN, KEN, JOHN, IT HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT AN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE.
WE USE, WE WILL STILL SEE YOU ASSUMING YOU SHOW UP AT THE TRANSPORTATION WORK SESSION ON DECEMBER 12TH.
AND THEN WE'LL TAKE THE REINS FROM MR. S AND I'LL TAKE THE REINS FROM HERE, UH, WITH SOME NEW FOLKS ON JANUARY 2ND.
AND THEN THAT IS WHEN WE ARE ADJOURNED TO.