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FROM, UH, PASTOR BROOKING.AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, LORD, TO DO THE BUSINESS OF YOUR PEOPLE.
I PRAY FOR THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT ARE ON THIS BOARD.
I PRAY FATHER, THAT YOU GIVE THEM WISDOM AS YOUR WORD SAYS, WE ASK FOR THAT WISDOM.
WE DON'T DOUBT BELIEVING YOU'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO
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'EM WITH GOD TO DO THE THINGS THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR GLAND COUNTY, BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT FATHER, THEY STAND BEFORE YOU ONE DAY, GIVE THE COUNT WITH A RESPONSIBILITY ON THEIR HEAD.AND I PRAY, FATHER, THAT THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WE GLAND COUNTY, LORD GOD, WOULD BE ONE UNITED PEOPLE, LORD GOD, WHEREVER THERE'S A DIVISION, I PRAY THAT YOU JUST SQUASH IT AND HELP US TO BE UNIFIED, TO GLORIFY YOUR NAME AND JUST PRAY THIS, LORD GOD, I PRAY FOR, FOR NEIL SPIN, HOW THE LORD GOD, I PRAY FOR HEALING TO HIM.
WHATEVER IT'S HIS SITUATION WAS.
LORD GOD, I PRAY FOR HIM TO BE WELL AND HEALED, LORD GOD.
AND I PRAY, FATHER, THAT, UM, I JUST PRAY FOR THE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM, LORD GOD, THAT THEY'D SEEK AFTER YOUR FACE, LORD GOD, AND THAT FATHER, THAT EVERYTHING WILL BE DONE IN A WAY THAT'S PLEASING TO YOU.
AND PLEASE REMAIN, UH, STANDING IF YOU'RE ABLE.
UH, THE PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY SUPERVISOR
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WINFREY.JOIN WITH ME AS WE HONOR OUR COUNTRY.
PLEASURE ALLEGIANCE TO FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, AN INDIVISIBLE WITH THE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
PLEASE BE SEATED, AND, UH, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO, UM, UH, MR. CARPENTER.
UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
JUST, UH, A FEW ITEMS TO REMIND YOU OF COMING UP.
UH, WE HAVE THIS COMING THURSDAY, THE DISTRICT FIVE TOWN HALL AT 6:00 PM AT DOVER BAPTIST CHURCH ON MONDAY, MARCH 11TH.
WE HAVE DISTRICT ONE TOWN HALL AT BIRD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, ALSO AT SIX ON MONDAY, MARCH 18TH, DISTRICT TWO AND THREE AT SIX O'CLOCK IN THIS ROOM.
AND THEN MONDAY, MARCH 25TH, DISTRICT FOUR, SIX O'CLOCK AT SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH.
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NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE REQUEST OF POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS AND ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES IN THE ORDER OF PRESENTATION.UM, STAFF WILL BE WITHDRAWING PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER ONE TONIGHT.
UH, THEY ALSO HAVE REQUESTED THE ADDITION OF ITEM 19, THE RATIFICATION OF A MEMO OF UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN GLAND COUNTY AND THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS THAT WAS INADVERTENTLY LEFT OUT.
THIS IS A ROUTINE MOU THAT HAS EXISTED FOR MANY YEARS AS AND IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP THAT EXISTS BETWEEN
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GLAND COUNTY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.UM, WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.
CITIZENS ARE REMINDED THAT COMMENTS SHOULD BE ABOUT ITEMS NOT COVERED BY THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEING HELD LATER TONIGHT.
COMMENTS SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL AND NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IN LENGTH.
SHOULD MULTIPLE CITIZENS WISH TO HAVE A COMMON SPEAKER, THEY MAY SEE THEIR TIME IN TWO MINUTE INCREMENTS.
UP TO A TOTAL ALLOTTED TIME OF 10 MINUTES, WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR.
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GOOD AFTERNOON.UM, I LIVE IN GLAND COURTHOUSE NOW, AND, UH, BARBARA SLOAN AND I, UH, ARE THE GLAND COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES ON THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FOR P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST PRESENT AN UPDATE OF, UM, SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING.
WE PRESENTED A FEW MONTHS AGO, AND WE WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE YOU, UM, SOME MORE UPDATE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WE NOW AT P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY, UM, HAVE A NUMBER OF CITIZENS WHO ARE
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ATTENDING OUR MONTHLY MEETINGS.THESE CITIZENS REPRESENT THE THREE JURISDICTIONS THAT ARE STILL MEMBERS OF THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY, GOOCHLAND HANOVER, AND KING WILLIAM COUNTIES.
DURING THE CITIZENS' TIME TO SPEAK, WE HAVE TWO VERY PASSIONATE SIDES PRESENTING ON TOPICS OF BOOKS IN OUR CHILDREN'S AND TEENS SECTION OF THE LIBRARY AND THE CONTENT OF SOME OF THESE BOOKS.
AND WE JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE THAT WE DO HAVE THESE PRESENTATIONS.
THE LAST TIME THAT WE PRESENTED TO YOU, WE SPOKE ABOUT THE DEPARTURE OF KING AND QUEEN COUNTY FROM P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY.
JUST AS AN UPDATE, UM, THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY IN KING AND QUEEN CLOSED PERMANENTLY ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2023.
KING AND QUEEN, HOWEVER, IS CONTINUING TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SHARED FUNDS OF THE LIBRARY, UH, UNTIL JUNE 30TH, 2024.
SO THE CITIZENS OF KING AND QUEEN MAY USE OTHER
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P**N FACILITIES UNTIL THE END OF JUNE.THE BOARD, UH, THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES PASSED A MOTION THAT KING AND QUEEN RESIDENTS MAY NOT USE ANY OF THE P**N FACILITIES FROM JULY 1ST, 2024 UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST, 2025.
THE BOARD BOARD OF TRUSTEES WILL MAKE A DECISION AT THAT POINT AS TO WHETHER THE USE OF THE P**N FACILITIES WILL BE OPENED BACK UP TO THE KING AND QUEEN RESIDENCE FOR A FEE.
THE KING AND QUEEN IS SCHEDULED TO OPEN A LOCAL LIBRARY ON MARCH 1ST.
I, I DO KNOW THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE PROGRESS IS ON THAT YET.
WE JUST, UH, JUST AS AN UPDATE, I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE WEST POINT BRANCH LIBRARY WILL BE MOVING HOPEFULLY IN EARLY SUMMER TO A NEWER LOCATION IN THE TOWN OF WEST POINT.
IT'S A, A LOCATION THAT USED TO BE FOR THEIR POLICE, AND THE POLICE HAVE MOVED, SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A NEW FACILITY.
UM, AL ALSO THE MONTPELIER BRANCH LIBRARY IN HANOVER SHOULD ALSO BE READY FOR OPENING IN EARLY SUMMER.
WE ALSO PRESENTED AT THE LAST TIME SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE DELAYED AUDIT FOR THE, UM, 2022 AUDIT CONDUCTED BY CHERRY BECKER, UH, WHICH WAS FINALLY COMPLETED AT THE END OF, OF, OF 2023.
THE 2023 PRL AUDIT, WHICH IS ALSO LATE, UM, IS BEING CONDUCTED BY PB MAYORS AT A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
PB MAYOR OR PPRL HAS HIRED A PART-TIME CPA TO COMPLETE THE 2023 AUDIT AND WORK WITH THE TWO 2024 AUDIT.
AND WE WERE JUST INFORMED IN FEBRUARY THAT THERE IS A NEW DELAY ON THE 23 AUDIT BECAUSE PB MAYORS IS REQUIRING THE CAPITALIZATION OF THE UNK COLLECTION.
THE BOARD HAS ASKED WHY THIS WILL CAUSE A DELAY, BUT WE HAVEN'T YET RECEIVED A REAL CLEAR EXPLANATION TO THAT.
AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO BARBARA SLOAN AND SHE WILL FINISH OUR PRESENTATION FOR YOU.
THIS IS PART TWO, THE LIBRARY PRESENTATION.
UM, YEAH, I'M IN, I LIVE IN MAIDENS.
UM, THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES BROUGHT A MOTION TO THE BOARD FOR FUNDING TO CONDUCT A 360 INTERVIEW OF THE PRL DIRECTOR TOM SHEPLEY, AND THE MOTION PASSED.
THIS REVIEW WILL BE CONDUCTED THIS SPRING.
THE BOARD ALSO REQUESTED INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE GENERAL REVIEW OF ALL PRL STAFF IS CONDUCTED ANNUALLY BY MR. SHEPLEY AND HIS MANAGEMENT MANAGEMENT STAFF.
THE BASIC PROCESS FOR REVIEW WAS SHARED WITH THE BOARD BASED ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FROM THE LIBRARY OF VIRGINIA.
THE BOARD HAS INITIATED A REVIEW OF ALL THE PRL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
THIS IS A LARGE UNDERTAKING AS THE POLICIES HAVE BEEN DONE PIECEMEAL FOR MANY YEARS.
OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, WE WILL CONDUCT A REVIEW FOR CONTENT UPDATES AND FORMATTING.
AGAIN, BASED ON THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES FROM THE LIBRARY OF VIRGINIA, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED AN AD HOC BOARD COMMITTEE TO BEGIN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A FIVE YEAR BOARD, A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR THE PRL.
THE LAST FIVE YEAR PLAN EXPIRED IN 2021.
A REQUEST WAS MADE AT OUR JANUARY, 2024 BOARD MEETING THAT THE DIRECTOR AND THE STAFF PRESENT A STATEMENT AT OUR, THE MEETING IN FEBRUARY ON HOW TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE GRADE BOOKS IN THE JUVENILE SECTION.
CURRENTLY, THE JUVENILE SECTION GOES FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE, WHICH IS VERY WIDE SPAN OF MATURITY LEVELS.
TOM SHELEY PRESENTED A STATEMENT AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING, BUT THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD WAS THAT THE STATEMENT DID NOT ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION.
SO THE BOARD HAS ONCE AGAIN ASKED FOR A STATEMENT THAT DOES ANSWER THE QUESTION AND BE PRESENTED AT THE MARCH 24 MEETING.
UH, BARBARA AND I HAVE BEEN INVITED AS GLAND COUNTY PRL TRUSTEES TO THE FRIENDS OF THE GLAND LIBRARY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS AS EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS.
WE DO NOT HAVE A VOTE, BUT WE CAN ATTEND THE MEETINGS AND GIVE INPUT AT THE MEETINGS.
AND WE HAVE BEGUN ATTENDING AS OF JANUARY, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE EXOFFICIO MEMBERS OF THE GROUP.
AND WE'VE ALSO JOINED THE, UH, GULA LIBRARY BOOK CLUB.
UH, WE WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU AS OUR SUPERVISORS TO ATTEND OUR MEETINGS WHENEVER IT'S POSSIBLE, EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW WE HAVE YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE WORK OF THE PRL BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE YOUR PHYSICAL SUPPORT AT OUR MEETINGS WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
OUR BOARD OF TRUSTEE MEETINGS ARE HELD ON THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF EACH MONTH, AND THE LOCATIONS VARY TO THE DIFFERENT LIBRARIES THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.
OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE WEDNESDAY THE 27TH OF MARCH AT 10:00 AM AT WEST POINT, SO MAYBE WE'LL SEE YOU THERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON MR. VALDERS, BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF.
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DISTRICT MANAGER OF MONICA AND SO, AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.I'VE SERVED AS DISTRICT MANAGER FOR OVER 30 YEARS, MONICA AND SO, AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT INCLUDES ALL LANDS WITHIN PAITAN AND UCHIN COUNTIES.
WE ARE ONE OF 47 SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS ACROSS VIRGINIA.
EACH SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT IN VIRGINIA IS UNIQUE IN THE SERVICES PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS, LANDOWNERS AND LAND MANAGERS WITHIN THE THEIR RESPECTIVE DISTRICTS.
EARLY IN MY CAREER, I WAS MONICA MONICA, I WAS THE EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROL INSPECTOR AND ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTOR FOR UCHIN COUNTY.
MOST RECENTLY, WE WORKED WITH GUC AND FIRE DEPARTMENT AT HELPING TO CERTIFY DRY HYDRANTS TO IMPROVE FIRE INSURANCE RATINGS HERE WITHIN UCHIN.
MONICA IS CURRENTLY ACTIVE WORKING IS CURRENTLY ACTIVELY WORKING WITH DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY TO DEVELOP A LOCAL TOTAL MAXIMUM DAILY LOAD IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
DEQ IS DEVELOPING A-T-M-D-L-I-P PLAN FOR A PORTION OF DOBLE CREEK WATERSHED.
THE PROJECT GEOGRAPHICAL LIMITS ARE ROUGHLY STARTING AT PLUM TREE CORNER, RUNNING SOUTH AND EAST OF SHALLOW HILL ROAD, ABOUT A HALF MILE, THEN RUNNING SOUTHEAST ALONG A RIDGE TO THE NORTH END OF FAYETTEVILLE ROAD.
FROM THERE CONTINUES SOUTH AND EAST TO MILLERS LANE AND CONTINUES FURTHER SOUTH TO THE UPPER LIMIT OF DOVER LAKE.
FROM THE UPPER LIMIT OF DOVER LAKE, IT RUNS EAST TO DEVON WAY TO THE INTERSECTION OF MANNEQUIN ROAD.
FROM THERE, IT TURNS NORTH ALONG MANNEQUIN ROAD TO THE INTERSECTION OF THREE CHOP ROAD.
FROM THAT INTERSECTION OF THREE CHOP ROAD, IT TURNS BACK EAST, TURNS BACK WEST TO THE BACK, BACK TO BROAD STREET, COMPLETING THE WATERSHED BOUNDARY BACK AT PLUM TREE CORNER.
THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN WILL RECOMMEND LAND MANAGEMENT PRACTICES TO BE IMPLEMENTED IN DOVER CREEK TO BRING IT BACK INTO WATER QUALITY STANDARDS WITHIN THE WATERSHED.
ONCE THE IP IS IMPLEMENTATION PLAN MOVES TO IMPLEMENTATION PHASE, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE MAY BE AVAILABLE FOR THE RECOMMENDED MANAGEMENT PRACTICES.
IN THE LONG TERM FAILURE TO NOT IMPLEMENT VOLUNTARY PRACTICES COULD LEAD TO LAND MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS WITHIN THE WATERSHED.
DEQ ENCOURAGES LOCAL GOVERNMENT PARTICIPATION IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LOCAL TMDL IMPLEMENTATION PLAN.
MONICA HAS SUBMITTED PRELIMINARY COMMENTS TO DEQ.
THE THIRD AND FINAL MEETING WILL BE LATER THIS SUMMER.
MONICA IS HAVING A SUCCESSFUL YEAR WITH THE VIRGINIA AGRICULTURAL COST SHARE PROGRAM.
WE'VE APPROVED OVER $900,000 FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF AG BMPS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
OUR PROGRAM YEAR ENDS JUNE 30TH, AT WHICH TIME WE WILL BEGIN THE 25 PROGRAM YEAR.
MONICA SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT AT LARGE DIRECTOR POSITION IS CURRENTLY VACANT.
IT WAS VACATED EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2024.
THIS POSITION IS APPOINTED BY THE VIRGINIA SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD.
THIS TERM WILL END AND RUNS THROUGH DECEMBER OF 2026.
WE'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY A FEW GUC AND LANDOWNERS RELATED TO CONSERVATION EASEMENTS.
THESE PARTIES WERE RETURNED, WERE REFERRED TO THE CAPITAL REGION LAND CONSERVANCY FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
MONICA AND CURRENTLY CO HOLDS EASEMENTS WITH C-R-L-C-C-R-L-C RECENTLY REPORTED GUC AND LAW'S.
28% OF ITS AGRICULTURAL LAND BETWEEN 2017 AND 2022 ACCORDING TO THE USDA NATIONAL AG STATISTIC SURVEY.
LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD MANNEQUIN SABO.
UM, I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU HAVE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST, SINCE YOU TOOK OFFICE.
I KNOW IT'S A HEAVY LOAD THAT YOU ALL HAVE, BUT I WANNA REPORT SOME GOOD THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING, UM, BETWEEN, UM, THE, UH, JAMIE SHERRY AND, UM, ON, ON LAND USE APPLICATIONS.
WE MET YESTERDAY WITH, WITH JAMIE, UH, SHERRY, UM, RAY CASH AND AUSTIN.
UM, WE JUST BECAME A GROUP AS A RESULT OF THE DECEMBER 5TH BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, UM, WHEN WE HAD A LOT OF CITIZENS THAT WERE EXTREMELY DI DISCONTENT WITH THE, THE WAY, UM, A COUPLE OF THE ZONING APPLICATIONS WENT DOWN.
THEY FELT LIKE, AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR, UM, IN JANUARY FOR PUTTING THE ARTICLE IN PLACE TO HANDLE, UM, GETTING INFORMATION, UM, AND NOT ALLOWING THE APPLICANT TO STAND UP AT THE PODIUM AND GIVE NEW, UM, DEMANDS.
I'M, I'M GONNA CALL 'EM DEMANDS.
OR TO THAT AFTER THE CITIZENS HAVE ALREADY
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PARTICIPATED IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE NO CHANCE TO, TO RESPOND TO IT, UM, I'M HOPING THAT, UH, IN ON, UH, APRIL THE EIGHTH, WE WILL BE HAVING A COMMUNITY, UH, OUTREACH ACTIVITY FOR OUR NEW GROUP TO EDUCATE US ON THE ZONING, UH, POLICIES AND, AND PROCEDURES.UM, WE JUST ASKED YOU TO, HOPEFULLY YOU WILL GET JAMIE THE, THE, WHAT WE PRESENTED, UH, AS YESTERDAY.
UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS VERY REASONABLY DESIGNED TO HELP US, HELP OUR NEIGHBORS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON.
WHEN AN APPLICATION IS FILED, ESPECIALLY TONIGHT, YOU WILL HEAR ABOUT Z UH, UH, ZONING ORDINANCE, UH, AMENDMENTS THAT ARE ALL FOR COUNTYWIDE.
IT DOESN'T JUST AFFECT YOUR BACKYARD.
IT'S FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY NOT KNOWING THAT, THAT THE PROCESS IS VERY DIFFERENT AND FOR US CITIZENS, UH, IS DAUNTING TO, TO, UH, TO, TO NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION TILL THE NIGHT OF THE, UH, WELL, A FEW DAYS BEFORE THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, WORK HARD,
HELLO, JEN STROGER, 1810 FOX DOWNS LANE OILVILLE.
UM, GREAT TO SEE, HEAR THAT, UH, MR. SPOON.
UM, I'M LIKE TO THANK ALL THE POLL WORKERS TODAY.
EVERYBODY'S DOING A GREAT JOB, AS ALWAYS.
WE ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE OUR REGISTRAR AND THE STAFF AND ALL OF THE, UM, POLL WORKERS THAT COME OUT AND MAKE OUR ELECTIONS SAFE AND SECURE AND EASY HERE IN GLAND.
UM, I NOTICED THE COUNTY FACEBOOK PAGE ANNOUNCED WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
APPRECIATE THAT AND CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COUNTY CLERK BEING FEATURED.
I DIDN'T FIND A SIMILAR POST FOR BLACK HISTORY MONTH, THOUGH I KNOW WE HAD A WONDERFUL EVENT OUTSIDE THAT WAS JUST SO WELL ATTENDED AND BEAUTIFUL.
AND THANK THE NAACP GLAND ROTARY AND THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY FOR THAT.
I'M ALSO HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE LIBRARY.
MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT THIS BOARD APPOINTS TWO GLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS TO THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES, THE RULING BODY OF THE HANOVER GLIN AND KING WILLIAM LIBRARIES.
UM, I'VE BEEN TO MOST OF THE PRL MEETINGS SINCE LAST SUMMER, AND I AM CONCERNED AT WHAT I SEE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE AN OVERREACH BY TRUSTEES IN AN ATTEMPT TO ACT AS DIRECTORS AND LIBRARIANS WITHOUT HAVING THE SKILL AND TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE OF A LIBRARY DIRECTOR OR A PROFESSIONAL LIBRARIAN.
SOME OF THE TRUSTEES SEEM TO WANT TO HAVE INFLUENCE OVER BOOK SELECTION AND PLACEMENT, AND ARE ACTING IN WAYS THAT DECREASE THE DIVERSITY AND SCOPE OF MATERIALS AVAILABLE AND INFRINGE ON FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FUNDS THE LIBRARY, AND I KNOW YOU ARE FULLY FUNDING IT AGAIN THIS YEAR, WHICH IS WONDERFUL.
I'M CONCERNED THAT THE GLAND REPRESENTATIVES ON THE P**N BOARD OF TRUSTEES APPEAR TO BE POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AND ARE ACTING IN WAYS THAT LIMIT FREE SPEECH AND FREE EXPRESSION.
WE NEED TO PROTECT THIS RESOURCE AND THE RIGHT TO ACCESS BOOKS REGARDLESS OF OTHERS' OPINIONS OF THESE BOOKS, THE RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH AND FREE EXPRESSION.
HANOVER COUNTY WAS FEATURED ON CHANNEL 12 WHEN A SUPERVISOR THERE ENTERED THIS FRAY, UM, TO THE EMBARRASSMENT OF THAT COUNTY.
WE DON'T WANT GLAND TO BE EMBARRASSED IN THE SAME WAY.
I ALSO HAVE A PETITION ASKING ANGELA ALLEN TO DROP HER LAWSUIT.
IT HAS COST $30,000 PLUS TO OUR COUNTY.
UM, AND, UM, ALSO THE, UM, EXPECTATIONS OF THE TRUSTEES OF THE LIBRARY BOARD ARE TO RESPECT THE ROLE AND TO LET THE, UH, DIRECTOR ACT AS DIRECTOR.
THE LIBRARIANS ACT AS LIBRARIANS.
THEY ARE NOT THERE TO ACT AS DIRECTORS OR LIBRARIANS.
AND OUR DIRECTOR AND LIBRARIANS HAVE DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB, AND IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE SUCH A WONDERFUL LIBRARY.
ANY MORE CITIZENS? UM, SEEING NONE, I'LL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.
UH, WE NOW MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF MINUTES.
UH, FIRST THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SPECIAL MEETING ON JANUARY 20TH, 2024.
SECOND, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING ON FEBRUARY 6TH, 2024.
AND THE THIRD IS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BUDGET SESSION ON FEBRUARY 20, 20, 24.
UM, I'LL TAKE MOTIONS FOR APPROVAL FOR EACH ONE SEPARATELY.
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UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR JANUARY 20TH? SO MOVED.UM, MAY I HAVE YOUR VOTE, MR. SPOON? HOWER.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR FEBRUARY 6TH? I MOVE FOR APPROVAL.
MAY I HAVE YOUR VOTE, MR. SPOON? HOWER.
DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR FEBRUARY 20TH? SO MOVE.
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SECOND.MAY I HAVE YOUR VOTE, MR. SPOON? HOUR? AYE.
UH, WE NOW MOVE ON TO REPORTS.
UH, WE HAVE MR. MARSHALL WYNN AND HIS TEAM TO PRESENT THE VDOT REPORT.
UH, MR. WYNN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER MARSHALL WYNN WITH VDOT, UH, HIS PAST MONTH.
WE RECORDED 167 WORK ORDERS COMPLETED
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204, CATCHING UP ON SOME DELINQUENT WORK ORDERS.HAD ONE CALL OUT THE WHOLE MONTH, WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD, UH, DOING, UH, POTHOLE AND ASPHALT PATCHING, SHOULDER AND DITCH REPAIR AND CLEANING PIPE REPLACEMENT AND CLEANING.
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UH, TREE AND BRUSH REMOVAL AND CLEANUP, UH, SIGN REPAIR AND TRASH.UH, LUCKILY WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY SNOW, BUT WE'VE HAD PLENTY OF RAIN THE PAST
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FEW WEEKS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.AND IT'S REALLY BEEN TOUGH ON US TRYING TO GET SOME SHOULDERS DONE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
THE ONE ITEM I DO WANNA BRING UP, DANIEL TOWN ROAD, ROUTE 6 87 WESTERN GOOSE ONE.
WE WERE PLANNING ON PUTTING THAT PIPE IN THIS
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SATURDAY, BUT WITH THE IMPENDING RAIN, WE'LL PROBABLY POSTPONE THAT A WEEK.AND THE REASON WE DID IT ON SATURDAY IS 'CAUSE OF SCHOOL
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BUSES, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MESS SCHOOL BUS TRANSPORTATION UP.OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? UH, MR. WYNN, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU.
I, I FEEL LIKE I AM TRULY A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
I CONTACTED YOU ABOUT WATER IN A DITCH, SO I APPRECIATE YOU, UH, LETTING ME KNOW THAT, UH, MANNEQUIN ROAD NORTH OF SNEAD IS ON THE RADAR TO GET THAT DITCH PULLED.
UH, FOR DANIEL TOWN ROAD PIPE REPLACEMENT.
UH, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE LIKE ONCE IT, ONCE, UH, REPAIRS START THE, WELL, THEY, THE PLAN IS, THE PLAN WAS FOR THIS SATURDAY, RIGHT? IT'S GONNA BE A DETOUR IN PLACE AND LET'S GO.
GO TO, UM, 6 0 8 DAVIS MILL OUT, 6 0 6 TO SIX BACK AROUND AND THEN GET IT DONE IN ONE DAY.
ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU MR. WILLIAMS. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.
UM, YOU HAVE THE REST OF THE REPORTS IN YOUR PACKET FOR REVIEW.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, PLEASE REACH OUT TO COUNTY STAFF.
UM, WITH THAT, WE NOW MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED.
THERE ARE, ARE THERE ANY BOARD REPORTS, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
UM, I'LL JUST MENTION THE R-R-T-P-O IS GONNA MEET ON THIS THURSDAY, UH, OUR NORMAL, UH, POLICY BOARD MEETING AND THEN ON THE, UH, I'M SORRY, THE 15TH DOWN AT MAIN STREET STATION, THE R-R-T-P-O IS HAVING ITS TRANSPORTATION FORUM.
I BELIEVE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE RECEIVED AN INVITATION, BUT IT WILL HAVE THE R-R-T-P-O MEMBERS THERE TALKING ABOUT REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION.
SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT, UH, WE ARE ACTIVE.
THANK YOU MR. WELL, UH, WITH THAT WE MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA AS AMENDED.
THERE ARE 19 ITEMS. MR. CARPENTER WILL NOW SUMMARIZE THEM FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION.
MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS BOARDS, WE HAVE 19 ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA TODAY, SO I'LL TAKE A BIG BREATH.
UH, THE FIRST FOUR ARE RESOLUTIONS OF RECOGNITION FOR OUTGOING MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MR. CARTER DUKE, MR. MATT BREWER, MR. JOHN MYERS, AND MR. TOM ROCK.
THE NEXT ITEM IS THE REQUEST TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR APRIL 16TH, 2024 TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW TWO PARCELS LOCATED AT 5 25 WILDLIFE TRAIL
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TO ENTER THE TCSD.FOLLOWING THAT, WE HAVE TWO RESOLUTIONS TO AMEND THE FISCAL YEAR 24 BUDGET.
ONE TO APPROPRIATE $400,000 TO THE SCHOOL CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM TO FUND A REPLACEMENT ROOF AT BIRD ELEMENTARY AND THE OTHER TO APPROPRIATE $43,178 TO THE CLERK OF COURT'S OFFICE TO ACCOUNT FOR A LIBRARY OF VIRGINIA RECORDS PRESERVATION GRANT.
THE NEXT FOUR ARE RESOLUTIONS REQUESTING THAT VDOT ACCEPT ROADS IN
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SECTION EIGHT.THE FOLLOWING RESOLUTION REQUESTS VDOT EXCEPT ROADWAY AND READER'S BRANCH.
THE NEXT THREE RESOLUTIONS AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EX EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH VDOT FOR PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES OUTSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY FROM MOSAIC SECTION TWO A TO B AND SECTION EIGHT.
ITEM NUMBER 15, AUTHORIZES THE ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE GLAND DAY FOUNDATION TO MEMORIALIZE THE RELATIONSHIP FOR THE 2024 GLAND DAY EVENTS.
ITEM NUMBER 16, AUTHORIZES THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CHELSEA OPERATOR, LLC FOR TEMPORARY SERVICES TO NURSING HOME RESIDENTS IN NEED DURING A DISASTER OR OTHER EMERGENCY.
ITEM NUMBER 17 IS AN APPROVAL OF THE GLAND PALIN COMMUNITY SERVICES FISCAL YEAR 24 AND FISCAL YEAR 25 PERFORMANCE CONTRACT WITH THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM 18 AUTHORIZES THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A FACILITY USE AGREEMENT WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS TO INCREASE THE COUNTY'S EMERGENCY SHELTERING RESOURCES CAPABILITIES.
AND ITEM 19 AUTHORIZES THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS FOR FACILITY USE DURING AN AEM DURING AN EMERGENCY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, THOSE ARE THE 19 ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM AS A WHOLE? SO MOVED.
HOWER, MAY I HAVE YOUR VOTE? AYE.
UM, WE NOW MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
UH, FIRST UP IS DR. MICHAEL REMAR TO PRESENT THE UCHIN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL'S FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET.
MR. VICE-CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MR. CARPENTER, I WANNA START BY THANKING THE BOARD FOR YOUR RECENT APPROPRIATION OF THE MONIES REQUIRED TO REPAIR THE ROOF AT BIRD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
AND I'M GONNA GET THIS TO PLAY AGAIN.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR SCHOOL BOARD APPROVED BUDGET FOR THE 2025 FISCAL YEAR.
MY ATTEMPT TODAY IS, THIS IS MY FIRST PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD IS TO RANGE FROM 30,000 FEET AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY LAND THE PLANE.
I WANNA START BY INTRODUCING THE CORE VALUES OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION.
OUR CORE VALUES ARE EXCELLENCE, CREATIVITY, COURAGE, HONOR AND OPTIMISM.
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THOSE CORE VALUES, WE HAVE CORE GOALS TO MAXIMIZE EACH STUDENT'S ACADEMIC POTENTIAL EVERY DAY TO MAXIMIZE RESOURCES[1. Goochland County Public Schools FY2025 Budget Presentation]
FOR INSTRUCTION AND TO IMPROVE THE CLIMATE OF OUR ORGANIZATION.YOU'LL HEAR THESE THEMES RECURRENT THROUGH MY PRESENTATION.
THE VISION OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION IS TO INSPIRE THE NEXT GENERATION TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT.
AND OUR MISSION CONVEYS THAT WE MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL OF EVERY LEARNER.
JUST TO GIVE YOU A COMPASS OF WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MINUTES, ALL OF OUR NEEDS WILL BE RELATIVE TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, ENGAGED 2026 UNDER THE GOALS OF INSTRUCTION AND LIFELONG LEARNING, INCLUSIVE AND ENGAGING CULTURE, FACILITIES, RESOURCES, AND TECHNOLOGY.
WHEN APPROPRIATE, I'LL TALK ABOUT STRATEGIC ABANDONMENT.
AND THOSE EFFORTS THAT WE'VE TAKEN FOR COST SAVINGS.
AND THEN WE'LL TALK PROJECTED FUNDING SOURCES.
ALL OF OUR DECISIONS ARE MADE DAILY IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE STUDENTS WE SERVE.
THIS IS A BIT OF A LONGITUDINAL ENROLLMENT, UM, GRAPH SHOWING YOU WHAT OUR ENROLLMENT HAS BEEN OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A CURRENT ENROLLMENT OF JUST UNDER 2,600 STUDENTS AND AS I TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR BUDGET, WE'RE CONSERVATIVELY BUDGETING FOR AN ENROLLMENT OF ABOUT 25 40, 25 80.
EXCUSE ME, I WANNA MAKE SOME CORRELATIONS TO SCHOOLS AND HOUSING MARKETS.
BEFORE I GET STARTED, ALL OF THESE DATA ARE VERIFIABLE.
OVER 30% OF BUYERS BETWEEN THE AGES OF 33 AND 42 IDENTIFY THE QUALITY OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AS A TOP FACTOR IN CHOOSING A NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE REPUTATION AND ACADEMIC PERFORMANCE OF SCHOOLS HAVE A DIRECT IMPACT ON HOME VALUES IN THAT COMMUNITY.
HOME VALUES INCREASED BY 52 CENTS PER SQUARE FOOT FOR EVERY PERCENTAGE POINT THAT IS INCREASED IN A DISTRICT'S TEST SCORES.
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NATIONAL STATISTICS, DIFFERENCE IN HOME PRICES BETWEEN HIGH PERFORMING AND LOW PERFORMING SCHOOL DISTRICTS IS ABOUT $205,000 PER HOME.HOMES IN TOP PERFORMING DISTRICTS SELL AT AN AVERAGE OF EIGHT DAYS FASTER AND RECEIVE 26% MORE VIEWS THAN THE AVERAGE.
LISTING THE CORRELATION TO SCHOOLS AND THE LOCAL ECONOMY.
FUNDING PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS A LONG-TERM INVESTMENT STRATEGY.
EVEN FOR CITIZENS WITHOUT SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN, QUALITY SCHOOLS TEND TO MAINTAIN STABILITY EVEN IN CHALLENGING ECONOMIC TIMES.
HOMES AND WELL PERFORMING SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE MORE RESILIENT TO MARKET FLUCTUATIONS.
INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC EDUCATION PAVE THE WAY FOR A HIGHLY SKILLED AND INNOVATIVE WORKFORCE THAT DRIVES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
MOREOVER, REPUTABLE SCHOOLS ATTRACT BUSINESS.
WITH THAT, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE HISTORICAL SUCCESSES OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
WE HAVE FIVE APPLE DISTINGUISHED SCHOOLS IN GLAND COUNTY.
FOR CONTEXT, THERE ARE ONLY 362 SUCH SCHOOLS IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.
OUT OF A POSSIBILITY OF 160, 115,600 SCHOOLS IN THE UNITED STATES.
FIVE OF THEM ARE IN GLAND COUNTY.
WE'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR MEANINGFUL, INTEGRATING VIRTUAL REALITY INTO TEACHING AND LEARNING FOR SIX YEARS IN A ROW.
NICHE RATES US THE BEST SCHOOL DIVISION IN THE METROPOLITAN RICHMOND AREA.
WE ARE A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED SPECIAL OLYMPICS UNIFIED CHAMPION SCHOOL.
AND FOR SEVERAL YEARS RUNNING, WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION THE DISTINGUISHED BUDGET PRESENTATION AWARD.
WHEN IT COMES TO SCHOOL ACCREDITATION.
GOLAND IS ONE OF 10 SCHOOL DIVISIONS ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH OF VIRGINIA THAT HAS HAD 100% OF ITS SCHOOLS ACCREDITED FOR OVER A DECADE, ONE OF 10.
FOR CONTEXT, THERE ARE 132 SCHOOL DIVISIONS ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH.
REGARDING OUR STUDENT GROWTH IN THE CLASSROOM, GLIN HAS BEEN A LEADER IN MONITORING STUDENT GROWTH USING THE MEASURE OF ACADEMIC PRO PROGRESS.
TO DO SO, THIS IS A NATIONAL NORMED, HIGHLY REPUTABLE ASSESSMENT.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE CHART IN FRONT OF YOU, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE PINK LINE REPRESENTS THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.
YOU'LL ALSO NOTE THAT WE EXCEED NATIONAL AVERAGE FOR INDIVIDUAL STUDENTS MEETING THEIR INDIVIDUAL PROJECTED GROWTH GOAL ACROSS THE BOARD.
IN READING OUR OUTCOMES IN MATH, MATHEMATICS ARE NEARLY THE SAME.
WE'RE WORKING ON SIXTH GRADE GRADUATION RATES.
I'M PROUD TO BE STANDING HERE TODAY AS A SUPERINTENDENT OF A SCHOOL DIVISION THAT FOR OVER A DECADE HAS GRADUATED NEARLY 95% AND OVER FOR THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.
THAT IS A REMARKABLE ACCOMPLISHMENT, ONE OF WHICH WE SHOULD ALL BE PROUD.
SO IDENTIFIED NEEDS UNDER INSTRUCTION AND LIFELONG LEARNING.
ONE, TO MAXIMIZE EACH STUDENT'S POTENTIAL IN PREPARATION FOR A SUCCESSFUL LIFE, ALL STUDENTS WILL EXPERIENCE HIGH LEVELS OF GROWTH, ENGAGEMENT, AND PERSONALIZATION.
ALL STUDENTS WILL GRADUATE PREPARED FOR THEIR FUTURE LIFE GOALS.
THESE ARE THE INVESTMENTS TO GET US THERE.
WE'RE PROPOSING SMALL PERSONNEL CHANGES, FIVE EXTRA DAYS FOR READING SPECIALISTS, A 0.5 FTE FOR BAND TO SUPPORT OUR GROWING PROGRAM AT THE SECONDARY COMPLEX.
AND ADDITIONAL, UM, A CA SECTIONS TO HELP OUR STUDENTS WHO ARE PURSUING, UM, ASSOCIATE DEGREES DURING THEIR TIME WITH US IN THE HIGH SCHOOL.
THESE COME AT AN INVESTMENT OF $45,367.
WE'VE INCLUDED STIPENDS AND OTHER COSTS FOR SUMMER SCHOOL PROGRAMS AND BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL TUTORING AT AN INVESTMENT OF $109,592.
WE HAVE TEXTBOOK ADOPTIONS FOR K EIGHT LITERACY UNDER THE VIRGINIA LITERACY ACT AT AN INVESTMENT OF $223,024.
ADDITIONAL CLASSROOM INVESTMENTS FOR FIELD TRIPS, SUPPLIES, SOFTWARE, AND NEW KEYBOARDS FOR OUR EIGHTH GRADERS.
THESE WILL HELP THEM TRANSITION TO KEYPADS AND, AND KEYBOARDS WHEN THEY MOVE TO THE MACBOOKS IN HIGH SCHOOL AT AN INVESTMENT OF $92,112.
WE HAVE ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS, $41,367.
WE'VE ADDED ADDITIONAL STIPENDS FOR OUR
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ATHLETIC COACHES TO HELP BUILD OUR EVOLVING WRESTLING PROGRAM, OF WHICH WE HAVE A STATE CHAMPION INDOOR TRACK PROGRAMS FOR WHICH WE RECENTLY HAVE STATE CHAMPIONS AND COMPETITION CHEER.THIS WILL BE AN INVESTMENT OF $20,550.
AN ADDITIONAL COST FOR TUITION CHARGES FOR A CA MAGGIE L WALKER, GOVERNOR SCHOOL AND ACCELERATED MATHEMATICS.
ONE OF THE SCREENS HAS GONE OUT.
THIS IS A TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR INSTRUCTION AND LIFELONG LEARNING OF $613,781.
AS WE TRANSITION TO INCLUSIVE AND ENGAGING CULTURE, OUR STRATEGIC GOAL IS TO CREATE AN ENGAGING AND RESPONSIVE EXPERIENCE WHERE EVERYONE FEELS INFORMED, INCLUDED, VALUED AND EMPOWERED.
WE WANT TO EMPLOY A DIVERSE AND DYNAMIC AND EXPERT WORKFORCE, SUPPORT THE SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL NEEDS OF BOTH OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF POPULATIONS, AND ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY IN THE ONGOING WORK OF OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
THE GRAPHIC IN FRONT OF YOU REPRESENTS HOW GLIN COMPARES THROUGHOUT OUR REGION IN TEACHER COMPENSATION.
ESSENTIALLY HOW WE RATE AMONG THE REGIONAL MEME.
IF YOU'RE YELLOW, THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE ESSENTIALLY RIGHT AT THE MIDDLE.
THE RED INDICATES THAT WE'RE FIVE OR BELOW.
AND THE GREEN FOR SCHOOL DIVISIONS THAT HAVE GREEN INDICATE THAT THEY ARE IN THE UPPER HALF HOLDING SLOTS, ONE, TWO, AND THREE GLAND'S COMPETITIVE AT THE START AND SALARY, WHICH ALLOWS US TO RECRUIT TEACHERS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE COMPARED WITH THE REST OF THE REGIONS IN INCREMENTS OF 5, 10, 15, 20, AND 25 YEARS OF SERVICE, YOU SEE THAT IT BECOMES INCREASINGLY A CHALLENGE TO RETAIN HIGH QUALITY STAFF.
THIS CHART REPRESENTS A SEVEN YEAR TREND WHERE IN 2017 WE WERE ABOVE THE REGIONAL MEAN.
FOR YEAR ZERO THROUGH 15, WE WERE AT THE REGIONAL MEAN IT'S YEAR 20 IN YEAR 25, WE WERE FLATTENED OUT LAST IN COMPENSATION THAT YEAR.
THIS SHOWS YOU OVER A SIX YEAR PERIOD HOW THAT HAS EVOLVED.
WHERE WE ONCE WERE IN THE UPPER ECHELON IN FOUR CATEGORIES, WE'RE NOW AT THE MEAN IN ONE AND BENEATH THE MEAN IN THE REMAINING CATEGORIES.
WE HAVE ENDURED A 120% INCREASE IN MIDYEAR STAFF RESIGNATIONS THIS YEAR.
ONCE UPON A TIME, THOSE VARIABLES ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN COULD OUTWEIGH THOSE VARIABLES ON THE RIGHT.
OUR CLASS SIZES WERE APPEALING TO TEACHERS.
THE FACT THAT WE EXTEND TEACHER AUTONOMY, WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO TEACH THEIR PASSIONS THAT WE HAVE SUPPORTIVE LEADERSHIP, SCHOOL-BASED AND DIVISION, AND THAT WE HAVE LESS BUREAUCRACY.
THESE WERE ONCE SELLING POINTS THAT COULD LURE PEOPLE TO US IN SPITE OF THEIR BEING A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS VARIANCE IN COMPENSATION.
BUT MOREOVER, AS OUR EMPLOYEES START TO LEAVE US MORE, INCREASINGLY THEY ARE CITING A COMMUTE.
52% OF OUR WORKFORCE RESIDES OUTSIDE OF OUR COUNTY SALARY.
AS I JUST SHARED THE INSTRUCTIONAL CALENDAR, WHICH WE'VE RECENTLY RECTIFIED INFLATION OVER, WHICH NOT MANY OF US HAVE.
CONTROL, HOUSING, HIRING INCENTIVES AND PRIVATE SECTOR PAY.
A LOT OF OUR PEOPLE WHO HAVE LEFT US MIDYEAR HAVE NOT LEFT US TO GO TEACH IN OTHER PLACES.
THEY'VE LEFT US TO TAKE JOBS, EITHER EDUCATION RELATED OR NOT EDUCATION RELATED IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
AND IN MANY CASES, REALIZING 25 TO $30,000 A YEAR IN COMPENSATION INCREASES TO DO SO, TO HELP US IN OUR PLIGHT TO BECOME MORE COMPETITIVE IN COMPENSATION.
THIS BUDGET INCLUDES A 5% RAISE FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES ACROSS THE BOARD, SPECIFICALLY THOSE EMPLOYEES WITH SATISFACTORY EVALUATION.
THAT 5% SALARY INCREASE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES COMES AT AN INVESTMENT OF ABOUT ONE A LITTLE BIT OVER $1.3 MILLION.
WE'VE REALIZED AN INCREASE OR WE'LL REALIZE INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE COSTS.
WE HAD ORIGINALLY PROJECTED THOSE INCREASES TO BE ABOUT 9% AND WE'VE PROPOSED THAT THE SCHOOL DIVISION ABSORBS THOSE COSTS 100%
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TO DO SO WOULD COST $411,389.WE'VE ACTUALLY SAVED SOME EARNINGS HERE OR SOME DOLLARS HERE WITH POSITION CHANGES FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL AND CHANGES IN OUR VRS RATE FOR CONTINUING STAFF.
REALIZING SAVINGS OF $392,762.
WE'VE HAD TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR COMPENSATION FOR SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS.
SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS ARE THE ULTIMATE FREE AGENTS WHEN THEY WAKE UP IN THE MORNING.
THEY CAN CHOOSE TO COME SUB WITH US.
THEY CAN GO TO HENRICO HANOVER.
NOT A VERY LONG DRIVE TO GET TO EITHER.
WE'VE HAD TO MAKE OUR COMPENSATION FOR SUBSTITUTE TEACHERS MORE ROBUST TO COVER OUR OUTAGES.
THIS COMES AT A COST OR AN INVESTMENT OF $58,270.
WE'VE GOT VARIOUS HUMAN RESOURCES INITIATIVES, BONUS STIPENDS AND TRAININGS AT AN INVESTMENT OF $59,340.
AND WE ALSO TOOK A LOOK AT IMPROVING, I DON'T WANNA SAY IMPROVING BECAUSE I THINK WE DO A WONDERFUL JOB WITH COMMUNICATING, BUT DEVELOPING A MORE ROBUST COMMUNICATION PLAN.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE A COMMUNICATION OFFICIAL FOR OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
SO WE CONTRACT THOSE SERVICES THROUGH A FREELANCER, $28,817.
TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR INCLUSIVE AND ENGAGING CULTURE, $1,492,737.
WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT OUR FIELD FACILITIES, RESOURCES AND TECHNOLOGY UNDER STRATEGIC GOAL THREE TO ENHANCE AND SUPPORT THE INSTRUCTIONAL AND LEARNING NEEDS OF ALL STUDENTS AND STAFF.
ALL OF OUR ENVIRONMENTS ARE INVITING, INCLUSIVE AND EQUITABLE AND SUSTAINABLE.
WE PROVIDE OUR STUDENTS, STAFF, AND VISITORS WITH A SAFE ENVIRONMENT AT ALL TIMES.
ALL OF OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF WILL USE APPROPRIATE TECHNOLOGY AND NETWORK SERVICES AND ALL RESOURCES ARE ALLOCATED WITH TRANSPARENCY, EQUITY, EFFICIENCY AND COMPLIANCE.
OUR INVESTMENTS FOR FACILITIES, RESOURCES AND TECHNOLOGY.
ADDITIONAL COSTS FOR THE NEW GLIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO INCLUDE NEW CUS TWO NEW CUSTODIANS.
UH, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, THAT NEW FACILITY IS GONNA HAVE APPROXIMATELY 70,000 MORE SQUARE FEET THAN THE CURRENT GLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
IT'S GONNA REQUIRE TWO ADDITIONAL BODIES TO HELP US KEEP THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE PRISTINE AND UP TO STANDARD WITH ADDITIONAL SPACE COME, ADDITIONAL INSURANCES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
ALL TOTAL, TOTAL, THE INVESTMENT FOR THE NEW GUTCHEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL UNDER FACILITIES RESOURCES IN TECH $370,890.
AND WE'RE REALIZING I CHALLENGE THIS WITH HIGHER FUEL COST ACROSS THE DIVISION.
THIS JUST ISN'T THE NEW FACILITY.
THIS IS ALL OF OUR FACILITIES, SCHOOLS AND OTHERWISE COST OF HEATING, OIL, DIESEL, FUEL, WATER, AND SEWER.
WE BUDGET THOSE COSTS TO REQUIRE AN INVESTMENT OF $125,317.
AND THEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT OUR FACILITIES AND TRANSPORTATION, CONSIDERING INFLATION ADJUSTMENTS AND NEEDED PROJECTS, AN INVESTMENT OF $122,873.
TECHNOLOGY ADMINISTRATION INFLATION ADJUSTMENTS AND NEEDED SERVICES INCLUDE $50,000 FOR CLASSROOM IT EQUIPMENT FROM OUR CIP AND INVESTMENT OF $164,073.
CAFETERIA INFLATION ADJUSTMENTS, $79,335.
AND THEN A SET ASIDE RESERVE FOR CONTINGENCY FOR PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
THIS HAPPENS WHEN WE RECEIVE MONIES THAT, UH, PRIVATE SCHOOLS HAVE ENTITLEMENTS TO $55,448 REQUESTING A TOTAL INVESTMENT FOR FACILITIES RESOURCES AND TECHNOLOGY OF $917,936.
BEING GOOD STEWARD OF PUBLIC RESOURCES.
WE'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT THOSE THINGS THAT WE CAN STRATEGICALLY ABANDON.
WE'VE MADE SOME STAFFING CHANGES OR REQUEST RECOMMENDING STAFFING CHANGES.
A REDUCTION OF 0.5 FTE FOR SPANISH AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AT AN ESTIMATED SAVINGS OF $55,762 SOFTWARE PROGRAMS, ABANDONED STAFF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT PLATFORMS, INSTRUCTIONAL SOFTWARE AT A SAVINGS OF $44,500.
WE'VE REMOVED UNUSED STAFF STIPENDS, SAVING US ABOUT $5,600.
WE'VE REMOVED CLASSROOM AND MAINTENANCE TRAILERS,
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THE RENT THAT WE HAD TO PAY FOR THOSE STRUCTURES AND REDUCED THE NUMBERS OF DEVICES THAT WE LEASE.AND WE ARE LEAVING OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE RAGLIN LOT FOR OUR BUS LOT.
WE PAID RENT FOR THAT FACILITY.
THAT'S GONNA COME OUTTA SAVINGS OF $104,328.
A REDUCTION IN SERVICES FOR UNIFORMS TESTING, PRINTING THIRD PARTY SUPPORT SERVICES AT AN ESTIMATED SAVINGS OF $55,530.
AND A REDUCTION IN SPECIFIC INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT AT AN ESTIMATED SAVINGS OF $13,000, BRINGING OUR TOTAL ESTIMATE OF COST SAVINGS THROUGH STRATEGIC ABANDONMENT TO $278,620.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, TOTAL ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS HAVE INCREASED FIVE PER 5.7% OVER LAST YEAR'S TOTAL BUDGETED INVESTMENTS.
OVER 77% OF OUR BUDGET IS ALLOCATED TO SUPPORT INSTRUCTION AND TECHNOLOGY TO ADVANCE INSTRUCTIONAL GOALS.
SPECIFICALLY, 83% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET GOES TO SALARY AND BENEFITS FOR OUR HIGHLY QUALIFIED STAFF.
ABOUT 4% OF THAT IS PURCHASE SERVICES, 5% MISCELLANEOUS CHARGES AND UTILITIES, WHICH WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT A LITTLE UNDER 8% FOR SUPPLIES AND TEXTBOOKS AND A SMALL SLITHER FOR CAPITAL OUTLAY.
OUR PROJECTED A DM OF 2,480 STUDENTS IS WHAT WE BASED THIS BUDGET ON.
THIS WILL BE BASED ON OUR AVERAGE DAILY MEMBERSHIP AT THE LAST DAY OF MARCH IN 2025.
STATE FUNDING REFLECTS DECEMBER, THE DECEMBER, 2023 GOVERNOR'S BUDGET.
IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY HOUSE OR SENATE PROPOSED BUDGET CHANGES OF WHICH YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW.
THERE ARE QUITE A FEW THAT ARE STILL BEING HAMMERED OUT, BUT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN RED FOR YOU.
OUR REVENUE FROM SALES TAX WILL BE DOWN 2.6% FROM THE PREVIOUS FISCAL.
OTHER STATE AID IS UP SLIGHTLY BY HALF A PERCENTAGE POINT.
WE'VE TAKEN A DRASTIC DECREASE, OR IN MY ASSESSMENT, A DRASTIC DECREASE IN FEDERAL FUNDING AS THOSE DOLLARS WILL BE DOWN 11.3%.
THIS GRAPH ILLUSTRATES A 10 YEAR TREND IN OUR STATE REVENUE.
AND I'M ALWAYS INTERESTED WHEN SOMEONE SAYS WE'VE FUNDED SCHOOLS AT A RECORD HIGH LEVEL.
THAT'S A STATEMENT THAT YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE NEXT YEAR IN THE FOLLOWING YEAR AND EVERY YEAR.
SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, THE COUNTY TRANSFER RECOMMENDED INCREASE OF $2.122 MILLION OVER THE FISCAL 2024 AMOUNT REPRESENTS A COUNTY TRANSFER INCREASE FROM 68 TO 70% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THIS GRAPH, THE $29,373,150 FROM COUNTY TRANSFER IS REPRESENTED ALONG WITH UM, $5.7 MILLION IN STATE GRANTS ACCOUNTING FOR 13.6% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET STATE SALES TAX AT 9.9%.
AND OTHER MONIES THAT WE RECEIVE FROM CHARGING OUR STUDENTS WHO ATTEND OUT OF DIVISION TUITION AND FACILITIES RENTALS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE ACCOUNT FOR A LITTLE LESS THAN 3%.
THIS REPRESENTS A 10 YEAR TREND OF ALL REVENUE SOURCES.
WHEN YOUR TOTAL ADDITIONAL INVESTMENTS MATCH YOUR TOTAL ADDITIONAL REVENUE, YOU ARRIVE AT THE SWEET SPOT OF HAVING A BALANCED BUDGET.
THE TOTAL SCHOOL BOARD BUDGET GREW BY 5.65% OVER THE PREVIOUS FISCAL.
A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, I CAME AND LISTENED TO THE, UM, SHERIFF AND THE FIRE CHIEF PRESENT THEIR BUDGETS TO THE SUPERVISORS.
PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS DEALT WITH A DIFFICULTY FOR THEM TO FILL THEIR VACANCIES AND STAFF OUR OPENINGS WITH QUALIFIED PEOPLE AND FURTHER TO BE ABLE TO RETAIN THEM ONCE WE'VE ACTUALLY HIRED THEM FROM THAT.
THE SCHOOLS ARE CERTAINLY NOT EXEMPT.
UNDERGRADUATE EDUCATION PREP PROGRAMS ARE EXPERIENCING
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HISTORICALLY LOW ENROLLMENTS.PEOPLE AT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, AS I'VE SHOWN HERE EARLIER, ARE OPTING TO LEAVE THE FIELD TO TAKE VARIOUS OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
AND WE ARE IN A REALITY WHERE A LOT OF OUR LONG THRIVING STAFF ARE BEGINNING TO AGE OUT AND MAKE DECISIONS TO RETIRE.
SO I TRANSITION TO TALK ABOUT OUR PRIORITY UNFUNDED NEEDS.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT IF I HAD AN UNENDING REVENUE STREAM, CERTAINLY WOULD BE REPRESENTED IN THE THIS BUDGET.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE, MY ASSESSMENT ARE NEEDED THROUGHOUT OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.
THIS BUDGET DOES NOT INCLUDE WHAT WE ESTIMATE TO BE AN ADDITIONAL $120,000 FOR WHAT'S MORE LIKELY TO BE AN 11% INCREASE RATHER THAN A 9% INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE.
THIS BUDGET DOES NOT INCLUDE A MARKET ADJUSTMENT POOL FOR TEACHERS ONLY.
I SPECIFY ONLY THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE CATEGORIZED AS CLASSROOM TEACHERS EXCLUSIVELY SO THAT THEY MAY BE AT EVERY INCREMENT AT THE MEDIAN OR TOP HALF OF COMPETITIVE SALARY THROUGHOUT OUR REGION.
THIS WOULD BE AN ASK OF $1.4 MILLION MORE FUNDING FOR NEW TEXTBOOKS BASED ON VIRGINIA LITERACY ACT.
THOSE QUOTES ARE COMING IN AND THEY ARE EXORBITANT.
AND THIS IS, AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW, A STATE MANDATED PROGRAM.
THREE ADDITIONAL INTERVENTIONISTS ARE READING SPECIALISTS, ONE PER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL SECONDARY SPECIAL EDUCATION TEACHERS AT BOTH THE MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL TO REDUCE CASELOADS IN EACH OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
FILL IN THE GAP ON DEFERRED MAINTENANCE AND VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS BECAUSE OF LESS CIP FUNDING THIS YEAR AT AN ESTIMATED COST OF $1 MILLION.
IF IT WERE A PERFECT WORLD AND I HAD OF MY WAY, EVERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WOULD HAVE AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL.
THE PRINCIPALSHIP HAS EVOLVED TREMENDOUSLY OVER THE LAST HALF GENERATION.
AND I ALWAYS SAY TO OUR ELEMENTARY PRINCIPALS AND STAFF AND ANYONE ELSE WHO'S INTERESTED, IF OUR ELEMENTARY PRINCIPALS SPEND ONE 10TH OF THEIR DAY EVERY DAY ADDRESSING STUDENT DISCIPLINE MATTERS AND OTHER MATTERS THAT ARE LESS DIRECTLY PERTINENT TO INSTRUCTION OVER THE COURSE OF TWO WEEKS, EVERY TWO WEEKS, THEY LOSE A DAY THAT THEY COULD BE INTO SOMEONE'S CLASSROOM TEACHING THEM TRAINING AND COACHING THEM.
KEEPING IN MIND THAT OVER TIME WE WILL HAVE A LESS PROFICIENT WORKFORCE.
ADDITIONAL INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGY COACHES, A WORK-BASED LEARNING COORDINATOR FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE LUCKY TO HAVE IN GLAND A VERY SOPHISTICATED CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION CATALOG.
I CAME HERE FROM PORTSMOUTH PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHICH IF YOU LOOK AT IT ON PAPERS, PROBABLY EIGHT TIMES THE SIZE OF THIS, THEY'RE DOWN THERE WRESTLING TO TRY TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE WITH OUR CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION OFFERINGS.
BUT TO CLOSE THAT LOOP, WE NEED SOMEONE WHO CAN BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN WHAT KIDS LEARN AND THE CERTIFICATIONS THAT THEY RECEIVE IN SCHOOL AND JOINING A WORKFORCE AS PREPARED PROSPECTIVE EMPLOYEES.
WE NEED MORE DISCRETIONARY FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS.
WE'VE LIMITED EACH SCHOOL'S DISCRETIONARY FUNDING TO 3% THIS YEAR.
THAT'S A 3% INCREASE OVER THE CURRENT FISCAL THIRD PARTY AFTERNOON PROGRAMS FOR REMEDIAL SUMMER SCHOOL.
PERMANENT SUBSTITUTES ONE PER SCHOOL COULD CHANGE OUR REALITY WITH COVERAGES WHEN TEACHERS ARE OUT DUE TO ILLNESS GLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL'S, ATHLETIC COACHES SHOULD BE PAID ON A PERCENTAGE BASE LIKE THEY ARE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL DIVISION-WIDE TEACHER, MENTOR COORDINATOR.
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AS WE START TO HIRE ALTERNATIVELY LICENSED STAFF, WE COULD USE A DRIVER TRAINER FOR OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, A LEAVE COORDINATOR TO SUPPLEMENT CENTRAL OFFICE HR STAFF.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FUND TWO PRIORITY FIELD TRIPS FOR EVERY ELEMENTARY STUDENT.
SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE AT RANDOLPH OR AT BIRD, THERE'S EQUITY IN THOSE LEARNING EXPERIENCES.
CLERICAL SUPPORT FOR FACILITIES AND NUTRITION SERVICES, OR AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR NUTRITION SERVICES.
THIS BUDGET DOES NOT INCLUDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES AND TECHNOLOGY OPERATIONS, ESPECIALLY FOR VOLATILE UTILITY AND FUEL COST AND UNKNOWN INCREASES FOR NEW FIVE YEAR COPIER LEASES.
THE CTE USED HEAVY EQUIPMENT PURCHASE FOR A RUBBER TIRE LOADER NOT REPRESENTED HERE.
A WRESTLING MAT FOR OUR PROGRAM.
EXPANDED PROGRAMS AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AT A COST OF $15,000.
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DIGITAL DISPLAY BOARDS, FIVE OF THEM AT RANDOLPH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT A COST OF $2,500.SCHOOL BUS SEAT REPAIRS AT A COST OF $10,000.
AND THIS IS GENERAL TYPICAL WEAR AND TEAR ON THESE SCHOOL BUS SEATS AS OUR BUSES REMAIN ON THE ROAD FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
SECURITY AND CAMERA REPLACEMENTS, $15,000 CLASSROOM PROMETHEAN BOARDS TO AID INSTRUCTION.
WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF BUILDING BRIGHTER FUTURES.
I HOPE THAT I HAVE SHOWN YOU A SCHOOL DIVISION OR ILLUSTRATED FOR YOU TODAY, A SCHOOL DIVISION OF WHICH YOU CAN CONTINUE TO BE PROUD AND ALSO OUTLAY THE URGENCY OF SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE IF WE ARE TO MAINTAIN AND SUSTAIN THOSE LEVELS OF SUCCESS.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION THIS AFTERNOON AND OPEN THE FLOOR TO ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE SUPERVISOR? MR. CHAIR? MR. CHAIRMAN? OH, UH, MR. SPOON.
ARI, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR FIRST, FIRST, UH, BUDGET PRESENTATION TO UCHIN COUNTY.
I AM DOING BETTER THAN COULD BE EXPECTED.
UM, WANTED TO JUST TOUCH ON A COUPLE THINGS REAL QUICK.
UM, ON SLIDE 30 SEC, ON, ON SLIDE 36, YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE SET ASIDE FOR CONTINGENCY, UM, MOVING MORE FOR PRIVATE SCHOOLS.
COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT? I'M NOT SURE I REALLY CAPTURED WHAT THAT YEAH, I'M GONNA HAVE, I'M GONNA HAVE DEBBIE WHITE COME UP HERE.
SHE CAN SPEAK TO THAT MORE KNOWLEDGEABLY THAN I CAN.
YOU WANNA TALK TO THAT? SO IT COMES IN TWO PARTS.
THE ONE IS WE HAVE, UM, WE'VE INTENTIONALLY NOT SPENT OUT $50,000 BECAUSE PART OF THIS BUDGET IS BASED ON HAVING ROLLOVER FEDERAL MONEY FROM THE ARPA.
AND SO IF WE MISJUDGED THAT, I DIDN'T WANT TO OVER COMMIT.
SO IT'S $50,000 ROOM FOR ERROR IN THAT.
UM, THAT OVERCOMMITMENT, UH, ROLLING OVER FROM THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THE, THE $5,000, THE 5,500 WAS TRULY PRIVATE SCHOOL.
SO EVERY TIME WE GET AN INCREASE IN, IN TITLE MONEY FOR TITLE FOUR, UH, TITLE TWO, WHICH IS OUR TEACHER DEVELOPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, UM, WE HAVE TO GIVE A, GIVE IT TO SOME OF OUR PRIVATE SCHOOLS IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND OUR LARGEST PRIVATE SCHOOL IS BENEDICTINE, BENEDICTINE, BENEDICTINE.
AND THEY HAVE VERY MUCH GROWN.
AND SO, UM, IT IS, IT IS POPULATION BASED.
SO EVERY STUDENT THAT THEY HAVE COMPARED TO OUR STUDENT POPULATION, THEY GET A PERCENTAGE OF OUR FEDERAL MONEY.
INTERESTINGLY, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A FEEL FOR THAT, WE HAVE TO BUY THAT SERVICE FOR THEM.
THE MONEY HAS TO COME INTO US.
SO ALL THAT MONEY FLOWS THROUGH US.
WE CONTROL IT TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE CRITERIA OF THE FEDERAL GRANT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE, IT'S, IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE THAT, UM, PARTNERED WITH THE SLIDE THAT SHOWED THE DECREASE IN ATTENDANCE AS OUR POPULATION GROWS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING I HOPE THE SCHOOL BOARD WILL LOOK INTO AS THEY, UM, AS THEY LOOK INTO, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGER PICTURE AND DO WHAT THEY DO.
UM, MS. PROBABLY MS. WHITE, UH, DURING COVID WE SPENT A LOT OF, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
I BELIEVE IT WAS MOSTLY GRANT, GRANT OR COVID MONEY FOR HOTSPOTS FOR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO BE CONNECTED, UH, WHICH IS CRITICAL IN THE RURAL AREAS.
ARE WE STILL, UM, PAYING FOR THOSE HOTSPOTS OR IS THAT PROGRAM, AND HAVE THEY'VE BEEN TURNED BACK OR IS THAT PROGRAM, UM, BEEN TERMINATED? SO WE BOUGHT THOSE HOTSPOTS FOR THREE YEARS.
SO WE, WE HAD THE DEVICES, UM, I THINK WE GOT UP TO ALMOST 200 HOTSPOTS.
UM, AS WE HAD FEDERAL MONEY, WE KEPT THOSE HOTSPOTS ALIVE FOR THOSE TWO OR THREE YEARS.
AND THEN ONE, ONCE, ONCE THAT COVID MONEY WASN'T AVAILABLE LAST YEAR, WE DROPPED IT.
SO WE HAVE HAD NO HOTPOTS DELIVERED THIS YEAR TO OUR OKAY.
BUT ARE WE STILL PAYING FOR THE SERVICE FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T EXISTENCE? NO, THAT, THAT'S WHY.
UM, IT, IT IS, UH, ABOUT A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER HOTSPOT FOR A YEAR.
WELL, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY WITH BROADBAND GETTING TO MORE OF OUR CITIZENS, WE WILL, WE'LL CLOSE THAT GAP.
AND THE LAST QUESTION, UM, SLIDE 44, DR.
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TAX, UH, BEING DOWN 2.6%.UM, THAT'S INTERESTING TO ME IN, YOU KNOW, WITH CBTA, OBVIOUSLY WE LOOK AT SALES TAXES, WE GET SOME REVENUES FROM THAT, AND WE DON'T SEE THAT SAME DECREASE, ESPECIALLY WITH INFLATION BEING WHERE IT IS.
UM, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THE PROJECTIONS OF THE, OF THAT SALES TAX BEING DOWN WHEN THE COST OF GOODS HAVE GONE UP SO SIGNIFICANTLY? AND THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
UM, SO I FOLLOW, I FOLLOW THE ECONOMIC FORECAST VERY CLOSELY, JUST LIKE, UM, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND WE ARE VERY, UM, THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WHERE WE AS A SCHOOL DIVISION TAKE THE RISK.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE, THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE HAVE TAKEN A CONSERVATIVE LOOK AT SALES TAX PROJECTIONS.
AND IN FACT, AT THE END OF THIS SCHOOL, THEY'RE SHOWING, UH, A DROP AGAIN.
SO WE HAD TO BE AWARE OF THAT AS WE GO INTO THE END OF THE SCHOOL YEAR THAT THEY HAD A SIGNIFICANT DROP FROM WHAT THEY PROJECTED A YEAR AGO TO NOW.
SO, UM, BUT WE TAKE THAT RISK.
IF IT DOESN'T COME IN, THEN WE HAVE TO, UM, UM, UH, FIGURE OUT HOW TO, HOW TO FUND THE REST OF OUR BUDGET WITHOUT THAT MONEY.
SO WE, WE ARE CONSERVATIVE, MR. SPOON, HOWER.
UM, WE TAKE THAT GOVERNOR'S BUDGET AND WE ONLY BUDGET 97%, 97.5% BE.
AND IT'S, UM, IT'S KEPT US PRETTY CLEAN, UM, OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN IN THIS PROCESS.
UM, SO, UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT THE ECONOMY INCREASES CAN TELL YOU THAT I APPRECIATE THE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH AND YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION VERY WELL.
THANK YOU MR. AUER, THAT'S ALL YOUR QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
UH, MS. WHITE, UM, I SPENT SOME TIME WITH, UH, ELLEN ROBINSON, THE SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVE FROM DISTRICT FIVE, AND YES, SIR, SHE WAS SHARING WITH ME SOME OF THE READING, GRADE LEVEL READING.
AND, UM, I, I AM CURIOUS, DOES THIS ENCOMPASS ADDRESSING WHAT I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A, A UNDERPERFORMANCE IN GRADE LEVEL READING SKILLS, OR MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT I WAS BEING TOLD.
WE, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE AN EMPHASIS ON READING COMPREHENSION.
WE, WE DO NOT, WE DO NOT HAVE UNDERPERFORMANCE IN READING.
IN FACT, AND I DIDN'T TALK A WHOLE LOT ABOUT SOL OUTCOMES FOR THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BELABOR ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT, BUT WE ARE AT THE, ALMOST BACK AT PRE PANDEMIC PERFORMANCE WITH REGARD TO OUR READING OUTCOMES, ESPECIALLY AT THE ELEMENTARY GRADE LEVELS.
SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING WELL IN THAT REGARD.
AND THEN YOU, YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR UNFUNDED THE, I'M GONNA ROUND UP I GUESS THE 1.4 MILLION YES, SIR.
AND, UM, I RECEIVED CALLS FROM ALL FIVE OF THE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS ENCOURAGING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ADDRESS THAT WITHIN OUR ABILITIES.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT YOU HAVE SORT OF WALKED THAT BACK OR, OR IS THAT, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE BECAUSE NO,
I'VE GOTTEN MOBBED VERY HARD TO SUPPORT THAT.
NO, SIR, I'VE NOT WALKED THAT BACK.
THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE IT WAS NOT, FIRST OF ALL, IT WOULD'VE BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO PRESENT A BALLOT'S BUDGET, AND IT WASN'T PART OF THE BUDGET THAT WE PRESENTED WHERE THE COMMUNITY COULD COME OUT AND OFFER US INPUT.
SO IT WASN'T PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I DEEMED IT UNWISE TO PULL THE PEN OUT OF THAT GRENADE AND COME HERE TODAY WITH A BUDGET THAT'S UNBALANCED BY $1.4 MILLION HAT HAND SAYING, HEY, GIVE ME 1.4 MILLION.
RATHER, I HAD ASKED THAT OUR, UM, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS TALK WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE SUPERVISORS ABOUT THE PROBABILITY OF MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS AFTER THE FACT.
UM, I THINK I'VE ILLUSTRATED THE NEED FOR THAT.
THE, THE WAY THAT WE ARRIVED AT THE $1.4 MILLION IS WE TOOK A LOOK AT A MOMENT IN TIME BACK IN DECEMBER AS HOW OUR SALARIES AT EACH STATE OR AT EACH PLACE IN INCREMENT ON THE SCALE, UM, RELATED TO OUR NEIGHBORS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, IF YOU MAKE A SALARY ADJUSTMENT, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKELY GONNA MORE GREATLY BENEFIT ARE GONNA BE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AT THE HIGHER END OF THE SCALE.
SO WE RAN SOME ALGORITHMS AND THE COST TO DO THAT FOR TEACHERS ONLY IS GONNA COME IN AT ABOUT 1.4 MILLION.
BUT NO, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DEPRIORITIZED.
IN FACT, I'D LIKE TO REEMPHASIZE TODAY THE IMPORTANCE THAT WE TAKE THAT SWIFT ACTION FOR OUR FOLKS.
I'M SORRY IF THAT WAS MISCOMMUNICATED.
UH, GENERALLY THOSE ERRORS ARE WITH ME, NOT THE PERSON GIVING THE MESSAGE.
SO I, I TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY ON THAT.
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OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? NO.MARTY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, WE NEXT MOVE ON TO APPOINTMENTS.
UH, TODAY WE HAVE FIVE APPOINTMENTS TO MAKE TO OUR PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, WE WILL TAKE THEM INDIVIDUALLY, UH, FOR DISTRICT ONE.
MR. CHRISTIE, DO YOU WISH TO MAKE A NOMINATION? YES.
I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE GUY KIMBERLY FOR PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, MAY I HAVE YOUR VOTE, MRS. SPAU? SURE.
DID YOU WANT ANY DISCUSSION PRIOR? ANY DISCUSSION? CHRIS, YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING SIR? UH, WASN'T REALLY PREPARED TO PRESENT MY, UH, I, I WOULD'VE ASKED HIM TO COME HERE, BUT, UH, HE WORKS FOR NASA AND HE'S, UH, HEAVILY ENGAGED IN DISTRICT ONE.
UM, THEN IF YOU'RE CALLING FOR MY VOTE, THEN AYE.
UH, FOR DISTRICT TWO, MR. S SPAU, DO YOU WISH TO MAKE A NOMINATION? UM, YES, MR. CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE AMANDA KOWALSKI.
I'VE WORKED WITH MS. KOWALSKI, UH, ON THE BZA.
UH, SHE'S BEEN A GREAT MEMBER THERE, HAS DONE, IS VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, HAS DONE, UH, GREAT THINGS WITH THE BOY SCOUTS AND, UM, SERVING THE COMMUNITY
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AS A WHOLE.AND I THINK SHE WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT, UH, COMMISSIONER.
UM, DO WE HAVE A SECOND OR ANY DISCUSSION? SECOND.
UM, MR. SPOON, HOWER, SINCE IT'S YOUR APPOINTMENT I ASSUME YOUR VOTE, BUT CAN YOU GIVE IT
FOR DISTRICT THREE, MR. WINFREY, UH, NOMINATE, UH, JESS MCLAUGHLIN.
JESS, UH, IS A, UH, REAL ESTATE BROKER.
HE'S CHAIRMAN OF YOUNG LIFE HERE IN COUNTY.
HE IS KNOWN TO SEVERAL OF US, UH, AND I THINK, UH, HE BRINGS A GREAT DEAL OF KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE TO THE POSITION.
UM, IS THERE A SECOND? IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY.
UH, MR. SPOON? HOWER, CAN I HAVE YOUR VOTE? I DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU ALL, Y'ALL ARE COPYING OFF ME.
UH, FOR DISTRICT FOUR, I WISH TO NOMINATE, UH, MR. KURT POOK.
UM, HE HAS SERVED THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION, UH, AND I VIEW HIS REAPPOINTMENT AS GREAT ASSET TO THE PLAINTIFF COMMISSION MOVING FORWARD.
UM, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, MR. SPOON? HOWER, MAY I HAVE YOUR VOTE? AYE.
AND FOR DISTRICT FIVE, MR. LYLE? YES, I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE DWAYNE COSBY.
UM, DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
I'D LIKE SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT, MR. LAU.
WELL, I, UH, IT COMES AFTER THE SECOND, I BELIEVE
UH, MR. COSBY, UM, UH, HAS GONE THROUGH A RIGOROUS INTERVIEW PROCESS.
HE'S MET WITH THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, UH, THE CURRENT, UH, PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT FIVE, MR. ROCK CHARLIE AS WELL, A NUMBER OF ENGAGED CITIZENS HE HAS.
UH, AND, AND THIS GAVE ME SOME PAUSE.
HE HAS A MASTER'S IN URBAN PLANNING, UH, FROM VCU.
I'VE ENCOURAGED HIM TO RUN, UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOT AN URBAN COUNTY, WHICH I THINK HE UNDERSTANDS.
UH, AND HE HAS REALLY SHOWN ENTHUSIASM AND FOLLOW THROUGH.
UM, SO I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH HIM AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS IN THE COMING YEARS.
MR. CHRISTIE, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.
UM, SO WE HAVE A SECOND, CORRECT? YEAH.
UM, MR. SPAU, CAN I HAVE YOUR VOTE PLEASE? AYE.
THAT, UH, ADDRESSES THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
NEXT WE HAVE A NOMINATION TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
UH, WE HAVE BEFORE AS MR. THOMAS LITTLE REPLACING MR. DANIEL KEATON.
DO I HAVE A NOMINATION? I MOVE, UH, NOMINATE.
UH, MR. SPOON, HOWER, UH, SORRY.
CAN I HAVE YOUR VOTE PLEASE? AYE.
UM, WITH THAT WE HAVE THE BUSINESS OF THIS
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MEETING ADDRESSED.UH, I WILL NOW ADJOURN TO OUR DINNER MEETING WITH MEMBERS OF THE GLAND LEADERSHIP ENTERPRISE, FOLLOWED BY OUR 6:00 PM PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THIS, UH, BOARD ROOM.
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THE MARCH 5TH MEETING OF THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.UM, WE WILL OPEN WITH CITIZEN COMMENTS.
CITIZENS ARE REMINDED THAT COMMENTS SHOULD BE ABOUT ITEMS NOT COVERED BY THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEING HELD LATER TONIGHT.
COMMENTS SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL AND BE NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IN LENGTH.
SHOULD MULTIPLE CITIZENS WISH TO HAVE A COMMON SPEAKER, THEY MAY SEE THEIR TIME IN TWO MINUTE INCREMENTS, UP TO A TOTAL ALLOTTED TIME OF 10 MINUTES.
UM, AND IF WE GET A NUMBER OF 'EM, YOU CAN WAIT IN THE FRONT ROW AND, UH, FOR YOUR TIME SPEAK.
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ANYBODY WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO COME UP, MA'AM? UH, GOOD EVENING.[XIII. 6:00 PM - Chair Calls Meeting Back to Order]
NAME IS MICHELLE GARMIN.I LIVE AT 4,003 ROYAL VIRGINIA LANE IN HAYDENVILLE.
AND I'M HERE TO DISCUSS, UM, AN ISSUE WE'VE HAD WITH HUNTERS
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IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.THERE ARE GETTING A LITTLE TOO CLOSE TO HOMES.
THERE ARE DOGS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY, OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE VIRGINIA HUNTING AND TRAPPING REGULATIONS.
AND ACCORDING TO THE VIRGINIA REGULATIONS, I'M GETTING ALL YOUR PAPERS.
IT SAYS THAT IT SHALL BE UNLAWFUL FOR ANY PERSON TO ENGAGE IN HUNTING WITH A FIREARM OR TO DISCHARGE A FIREARM WITHIN A HUNDRED YARDS OF A DWELLING HOUSE OR OCCUPIED BUILDING, NOT HIS OR HER OWN.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE DON'T HAVE AN ORDINANCE LIKE THAT HERE IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY.
AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE US TO DO IS TO GET AN ORDINANCE TO MATCH THE LAWS THAT THE, UH, VIRGINIA HUNTING AND TRAPPING REGULATIONS STATE.
IS THERE ANYTHING I NEED TO DO TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU.
ANY OTHER CITIZEN COMMENTS I HAD JUST LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT MICHELLE SAID.
I LIVE AT, UH, 3 0 3 1 ROYAL VIRGINIA PARKWAY.
SHE LIVES, IF I LOOK DOWN TO THE END OF MY PROPERTY, HER HOUSE IS IN, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY WOODS, AND IT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF AN ACRE WOODS.
AND THEN HER HOUSE SITS THERE.
WE LIVE ON A PLACE THAT USED TO BE ROYAL VIRGINIA GOLF COURSE.
AND, UM, ACTUALLY THE DAY THAT ALL THIS HAPPENED, I CALLED, UH, THE, THE POLICE, THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND I FORGET THE DEPUTY'S NAME, BUT HE WAS VERY NICE AND CALLED ME BACK.
AND THE POINT IS, IS THAT FOR ABOUT TWO OR THREE HOURS THAT AFTERNOON, UM, AND THIS WAS LAST WEEK, THE HUNTING DOGS AND THE HUNTERS WERE WALKING PAST MY HOUSE.
IT USED TO BE THE 10TH FAIRWAY.
THAT FAIRWAY IS NOT EVEN 50 YARDS WIDE.
THERE'S NO WAY THERE'S ROOM IN BETWEEN THERE.
TWO OF 'EM WERE CHILDREN AND ORANGE VESTS AND GUNS.
I WAS CORRECTED, NOT RIFLES, SHOTGUNS, GUNS,
THERE'S ANOTHER HOUSE THAT I CAN SEE, AND THEN MICHELLE LIVES BEHIND MY PROPERTY.
I CAN'T SEE HER HOUSE, BUT I KNOW WHERE IT IS, WHERE THE 10TH FAIRWAY GOES.
WHEN YOU USED TO SEE THE GREEN MICHELLE'S HOUSE IS HERE.
THE REASON WE WERE SCARED THAT DAY IS BECAUSE WE HEARD ALL THIS SHOOTING AND WE TOOK VIDEOS.
ALL YOU CAN SEE ON MY VIDEOS, YOU CAN HEAR THE SHOTS, BUT THEY WERE RIGHT.
WHAT I KNEW HER HOUSE WAS RIGHT HERE.
SO WE WERE TEXTING BACK AND FORTH, AND THERE'S ANOTHER NEIGHBOR ON THIS SIDE, AND EVERYBODY'S SCARED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THESE SHOTS HAD BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT TWO WEEKS, BUT CERTAIN TWO DAYS REALLY BAD.
AND THIS PARTICULAR DAY, THERE WERE ALL THESE GUYS OUT THERE AND, AND JUST, JUST TOO MUCH SHOOTING, TOO CLOSE.
AND THE DEPUTY EVEN SAID, YOU KNOW, I WAS AFRAID TO WALK MY DOG ON THE ROAD.
HE SAID, WELL, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO SHOOT ACROSS THE ROAD,
BUT ANYWAY, THAT, I JUST WANNA BACK HER UP ON THAT.
AND, UM, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET SOMETHING, SOME KIND OF A LAW.
THE DEPUTY TOLD ME THERE IS NOTHING ON THE BOOKS FOR ARTICLE 78, WHATEVER, THAT IT'S DISTANCES WITH TO SHOOT A FIREARM.
AND WE NEED SOMETHING THAT'S A LAW TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE THAT.
ANY OTHER CITIZEN COMMENTS? UH, SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.
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HEARINGS.UH, WE HAVE THREE TONIGHT AFTER THE REMOVAL AT STAFF REQUEST OF ORDINANCE 5, 7, 6, 3.
UM, AND I WILL, UH, TURN THE MIC TO, UH, CHAIR MCGEE TO GIVE THE EXPLANATION OF THAT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, AS YOU MAY RECALL, AND, AND TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT, UM, CITIZENS ARE AWARE, WE MADE A FULL PRESENTATION BEFORE THE BOARD LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE IN NOVEMBER, ABOUT, UH, ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE WHICH WOULD REQUIRE, UH, APPLICATION FOR NONPROFIT STATUS FOR, UH, TAX EXEMPT STATUS IN THE COUNTY.
AND THAT APPLICATION WOULD'VE TO BE RENEWED EVERY THREE YEARS.
THE FEEDBACK FROM THE CITIZENS WHO SPOKE ON IT, BOTH FROM NONPROFITS, A LOT OF CHURCH MEMBERS WHO SPOKE AND FROM THE BOARD AT THAT TIME WAS, UH, THAT, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE TOO HEAVY A HAND OF GOVERNMENT.
AND IF THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR NONPROFIT TAX EXEMPTIONS ARE BEING APPROPRIATELY, UM,
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HANDLED, THEN THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE.UM, AND THERE WAS A DEFERRAL MOTION TO THIS MONTH.
STAFF HAS CERTAINLY RECONSIDERED THE, THE APPRECIATES ALL THE FEEDBACK IT RECEIVED FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND NONPROFITS AND CHURCHES AND THE WORK THAT WE DID TOGETHER.
BUT WE ARE TONIGHT WITHDRAWING THAT ORDINANCE REQUEST AND WE'LL BE USING OTHER TOOLS AT THE DISPOSAL TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE HANDLED CORRECTLY.
BUT, UM, SO THE, THE, UH, MOTION, IT'S NOT A MOTION THE, UH, ON BEHALF OF STAFF, WE'RE WITHDRAWING THE REQUEST FOR THE AMENDMENT.
UM, THE FIRST APPLICATION IS, UH, FOR CU 2023 DASH 20, UH, BY SHELLY ICK REQUESTING A, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL KENNEL ON 21.005 ACRES.
WE'LL NOW HEAR THE STAFF PRESENTATION FROM JAMIE SHERRY, FOLLOWED BY THE APPLICANT.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THE FIRST APPLICATION, UH, THIS EVENING IS BY SHELLY ICK.
SHE'S REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A COMMERCIAL KEN KENNEL, MORE SPECIFICALLY INDOOR DOG TRAINING.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL.
UM, IT'S JUST SOUTH OF BROAD STREET, AND IT IS APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE TO OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.
UH, LOOKING AT THE AERIAL, YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT, UH, IT'S A LOT OF LARGER LOT WOODED, UH, FARMLAND AS WELL AS SOME RESIDENTIAL LAKE KILL.
LAKE KILLARNEY IS, UM, A SUBDIVISION
[2. District 1 - CU-2023-00020 Application by Shelly Switick requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for a commercial kennel on 21.005 acres approximately one mile east of Old Fredericksburg Road and 400 feet south of Broad Street Road on Tax Map No. 12-33-0-3-0. The applicant plans to construct and operate an indoor dog training facility. The property is zoned Agricultural, General (A-1). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-102. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]
THAT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE ABROAD ACROSS THE STREET.UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED IN RED, IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, AS ARE ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IN, IN THE AREA.
A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A, UH, COMMERCIAL DOG KENNEL IS REQUIRED IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT.
ON THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MAP, WHERE THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA, AS ARE ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THIS USE, UM, IF IT IS, UM, APPROVED WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT HAS APPROPRIATE, UH, CONDITIONS, UH, WOULD BE CONSIDERED CONSISTENT WITH THE CONDITIONAL, I MEAN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO JUST A LITTLE SUMMARY ABOUT THE REQUEST.
UM, MS. WHITTICK HAS PURCHASED A HOUSE LAST YEAR AND INTENDS TO, UH, BUILD A HOUSE AS WELL AS BUILD A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, ALUMINUM BUILDING TO A GALVANIZED ALUMINUM BUILDING TO, UH, HAVE THE DOG KENNEL SPECIFICALLY.
UM, THE FLY BALL, WHICH IS, UM, A, A SPORT WHERE WE CAN TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT.
UM, BUT IN ADDITION TO THE BUILDING, THERE ALSO WILL BE, UM, PARKING ON THE PROPERTY.
SO WE HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THAT.
UH, THERE'S NO OUTDOOR RUNS OR ANY KIND OF SIMILAR OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS BUSINESS.
AND, UH, CURRENTLY THE PROPERTY IS VACANT.
SO, UH, THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UH, NOW IDENTIFIED AS CONCEPTUAL PLAN A, IT DIFFERS JUST A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT WAS WENT OUT IN THE PACKET.
UH, MS. WHITTICK HAD A SURVEYOR DO, UH, OR ENGINEERING FIRM DO A PLAT.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, IN THE BLUE YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, LOCATION WHERE SHE WILL BE PLACING HER DWELLING.
AND THE RED IS THE 6,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, METAL BUILDING.
IT'S NOT DEPICTED ON THE AERIAL, I MEAN ON THE, ON THE PLAN, BUT THE PARKING AREA IS INTENDED TO GO.
UM, IN FRONT, UH, AT THE VERY BOTTOM YOU CAN SEE A GREEN DOTTED LINE.
THAT IS WHERE THE ACCESS EASEMENT, UM, IS TO BROAD STREET ROAD, ABOUT 400, UH, FEET OF ACCESS EASEMENT.
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THERE IS A PROPERTY IN FRONT.UH, YOU WILL SEE THE, UM, THE BUILDING, UM, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
AND THEN YOU CAN KIND OF SEE, UM, WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE ON THE INDOORS.
UH, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUILDING.
THERE WILL BE THREE ENTRANCES AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THREE DOORS THERE WILL BE A GARAGE DOOR.
THERE WILL ALSO BE TWO BATHROOMS. AND THE FLOOR, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IS GRAVELED, BUT THERE WILL BE MATTING, UH, PLACED AROUND, UM, THE FLOOR.
SHE INDICATES THAT IT'S EASIER CLEANING AND IT WOULD BE SAFER FOR THE DOGS TO HAVE THE PADDING.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OPERATIONS.
UM, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT ALL OF THE ACTIVITIES ARE EITHER PRE-SCHEDULED OR AN APPOINTMENT IS MADE.
UM, SHE SAID THAT THEY HAVE APPROXIMATELY 50 DOGS MAXIMUM AT THEIR BIGGEST EVENTS AND, UH, 40 PEOPLE.
UH, SOME CLIENTS MAY HAVE MULTIPLE DOGS, THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T ADD UP EXACTLY.
SHE DOES HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVENTS.
UH, SHE HAS WEEKLY CLASSES WHERE SHE CAN HAVE UP TO 10 DOGS, UH, BOOT CAMPS, WHICH ARE MONTHLY.
UM, SHE CAN HAVE UP TO 18, UH, PEOPLE AND 18 DOGS.
AND THEN LASTLY, UH, ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR, SHE DOES HAVE FLYBALL SCRIMMAGES, UM, ON SITE.
SO THAT WOULD BE ABOUT ONCE OR TWICE A YEAR.
A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UM, THE SCRIMMAGES THAT THE DOGS, UM, ESSENTIALLY ARE BROUGHT INTO THE BUILDING THROUGH, UH, WITH THEIR, UM, OWNERS.
AND THEN WHILE THEY ARE IN THE, UM, THE KENNELS, I MEAN, IN THE, THE BUILDING ITSELF, THEY'RE CREATED.
UM, THERE AREN'T REALLY ANY SPECTATORS REALLY, OTHER THAN FAMILY MEMBERS.
THERE'S NO LIKE, UM, SEATS OR BENCHES OR BOOTHS.
AND THE DOGS DO NOT STAY OVERNIGHT.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD BACK IN, UH, NOVEMBER.
A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS INCLUDED.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THERE WOULD BE OUTDOOR LIGHTING, HOW MANY, UH, CARS WOULD BE COMING IN AND OUT HOURS OF OPERATION, THE ACTUAL SETBACK OF, UM, THE BUILDINGS.
UM, AT THE MEETING, TWO PEOPLE DID, UM, VOICE SUPPORT FOR THE APPLICATION.
UM, WE DID ACTUALLY, AND I THINK I HAVE THIS LATER ON, BUT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS IT.
UH, WE DID SINCE THE, UM, COMMUNITY MEETING.
WE DID RECEIVE, UH, A COUPLE OF PHONE CALLS AND SOME FOLKS CAME IN AND JUST HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, DOGS BEING ON THE PROPERTY, MAYBE GETTING LOOSE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, GETTING ON OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY AND HARMING THEIR PETS AS WELL AS, UM, THERE'S LOTS OF HUNTERS IN THE AREA AND THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT TO AFFECT HER BUSINESS.
AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED, UM, THIS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE DESIGNATION.
SO AT THE JANUARY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UM, AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A FIVE ZERO VOTE.
NOBODY, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC SPOKE.
AND AS I MENTIONED, PEOPLE DID HAVE SOME COMMENTS AFTER THE COMMISSION MEETING.
SO SORRY ABOUT THE, THE SMALL WRITING.
THIS IS, UM, JUST A QUICK SUMMARY OF, UH, THE CONDITIONS.
UH, NUMBER ONE, IT DOES ALLOW FOR THE COMMERCIAL KENNEL SPECIFICALLY, UH, TO HAVE THE DOG DOG TRAINING FACILITY.
THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN STATES THAT THEY HAVE TO, UM, CON UH, CON UH, DEVELOP THE PROPERTY CONSISTENT WITH CON UH, CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
UH, THEY WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE, UH, A, A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT IN ANY OTHER, UH, COUNTY REQUIREMENTS PRIOR TO THEM STARTING THEIR CUP USE.
UM, VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER, UH, UM, BUSINESSES THAT ARE APPROVED FOR THE CUP.
UH, THEY ARE REQUESTING A GRAVEL WAIVER SINCE THEY, UM, UM, EXCEED THE 10 PARKING SPACES REQUIRED BEFORE YOU, UM, HAVE TO PAVE, UM, A LOT OF THE AREAS IN THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA TO, TO HELP WITH THE RURAL, UM, ENVIRONMENT.
DO, UH, REQUEST TO HAVE A GRAVEL, UH, APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST, UH, OF THE CUP WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT.
THEY NEED TO, UH, MAINTAIN AND CONSTRUCT AN ACCESS ROAD THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH FIRE RESCUE STANDARDS.
HOURS OF OPERATION WOULD BE LIMITED TO 9:00 AM TO 9:00 PM SEVEN AND EIGHT ARE COMBINED.
BASICALLY, AS I SAID IN THE PRESENTATION, LIMITING THE DOGS TO 50 AND THE PEOPLE TO 49 49 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BILL BUILDING OCCUPANCY.
THAT'S WHAT DIFFERS WITH THE, THE 40 VERSUS 49 OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES.
UH, UH, NO, UH, DOGS WILL BE UNATTENDED OUTSIDE, MEANING, YOU KNOW, NO DOG RUNS.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA JUST LET 'EM OUT.
UM, ANY ODOR FROM THE PROPERTY MUST NOT IMPEDE ON NEIGHBORS.
UH, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
UH, THERE IS A REQUIRED, UH, 30 FOOT SCREEN.
UM, THE PROPERTY, AS I MENTIONED, IS MOSTLY UN IS UNDEVELOPED, SO IT'S IT'S TREE.
SO, UH, EXISTING TREE STAND CAN, UH, REMAIN AN ACT AS A, UH, BUFFER, 30 FEET ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY.
OF COURSE, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS THROUGH THE ACCESS EASEMENT, UM, BUT IT, IF IT WERE TO BE,
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UM, IMPACTED, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REPLANT.AND LA LASTLY, THEY'RE ALLOWED A SIGN THAT IS NINE SQUARE FEET AT THE HEIGHT OF FIVE FEET.
THAT WAS KIND OF QUICK AND, UH, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CONCISE, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ELABORATE OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE WHO WOULD BE ABLE TO FILL YOU IN WITH SOME INFORMATION.
UM, I'LL NOW MOVE TO THE, UH, I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OH, IS THE APPLICANT? YEAH, SHE DOES.
UM, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A, A PRESENTATION.
I'M SORRY, MS. WHITTICK, IF YOU WANNA COME UP, I CAN PER, I CAN START THIS FOR YOU.
DO I HAVE TO PUSH THE BUTTON OR YOU PUSH? NO, I'M GONNA GET IT STARTED AND THEN YOU CAN, UM, TAKE OVER FROM THERE.
SLIDESHOW,
WE, WE'VE GOT, GOT OUR GUYS HERE STILL.
SO THAT'S FORWARD, THAT'S BACK.
AND IF YOU NEED HELP WITH THE YOUTUBE, WE CAN HELP.
AND BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO MY VILLAGE FOR COMING OUT.
A BUNCH OF MY FLYBALL FRIENDS, WE'RE A REALLY TIGHT COMMUNITY.
UM, SO I WANNA LET YOU GUYS KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT MY CREST FOR MY CUP, FOR MY FIVE BALL TRAINING FACILITY.
UM, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I WANNA TELL YOU ABOUT MY FAMILY.
SO SINCE I AM BUILDING MY HOUSE, I WANNA SHOWCASE THAT I HAVE MY HUSBAND, MATTHEW, AND MY TWO CHILDREN, FIVE AND SEVEN, WILLIAM AND JAMES.
UM, THEY'RE VERY ACTIVE, GREAT AT SPORTS.
THEY'RE GONNA BE STARTING, UM, AT BIRD ELEMENTARY IN THE FALL.
AND, UM, THEY'RE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT GLAND HAS.
AND THEN I HAVE MY FOUR DOGS HERE.
UM, AND THEY HAVE COMPETED IN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT DOG SPORTS.
SO WHY HAVE I PICKED GLAND? CURRENTLY IN DANVILLE, VIRGINIA.
I SERVICE VIRGINIA, NORTH CAROLINA, SOUTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA, AND TENNESSEE.
AND MOVING A LITTLE BIT FURTHER NORTH, MY CLIENTELE WILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE FURTHER SOUTH.
SO I'M HOPING TO GET CLIENTS FROM PENNSYLVANIA, WEST VIRGINIA, DELAWARE, UM, MARYLAND AND NEW JERSEY.
AND THEN I, THERE'S A WELL ESTABLISHED FLYBALL COMMUNITY HERE IN RICHMOND AS WELL.
UM, PERSONALLY I'VE PICKED GLAND.
UM, I ALREADY HIT ABOUT THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, UM, AND THE SPORTS ATHLETIC PROGRAMS FOR MY CHILDREN.
THEY BOTH HAVE A LOT OF NATURAL TALENT, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I GIVE THEM THE BEST OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING OUR DREAM HOME.
WE'VE BEEN RENTING FOREVER, SO THIS IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO FINALLY HAVE OUR HOME OF OUR DREAMS. AND, UM, FLYBALLS A FAMILY SPORT.
SO THIS IS AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO HAVE MY FACILITY GROW MY KIDS UP IN THE SPORT AND LET THEM HAVE A TON OF OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW, MATURE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES IN GOOCHLAND WITH THE FESTIVALS AND OUTDOOR, OUTDOOR FISHING.
AND I GREW UP IN THE COUNTRY, SO NOW MY KIDS ARE GONNA HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND WE'LL ALSO BE CLOSER TO OUR FRIENDS AND MY HUSBAND'S FAMILY IN MARYLAND.
SO, A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT MY CREDENTIALS.
I'VE COMPETED AND TRAINED FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS.
I'VE HAD PRECISION FLYBALL OPENED EFFICIENTLY FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.
I'VE COMPLETED MY CERTIFIED CANINE STRENGTH AND CONDITIONING COACH THROUGH NC STATE.
UM, SO THAT HELPS WITH DOGS DOING FITNESS BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY ACTIVE SPORT.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE, UM, IN AS BEST SHAPE AS POSSIBLE.
I'VE BEEN ON ESPN SEVERAL TIMES AND I HAVE TAUGHT STUDENTS ON SIX OUTTA SEVEN CONTINENTS.
AND IF ANTARCTICA HAD IT, I WOULD HAVE SEVEN
ALL RIGHT, SO I MIGHT NEED HELP WITH THIS YOUTUBE LINK.
IS IT, CAN I POINT RIGHT? LET ME SEE LAST TIME.
I'M GONNA, OKAY, LET'S SEE IF I CAN DO IT THIS WAY FOR YOU.
AND WE'LL GO QUICKLY THROUGH THESE.
SO THIS WAY YOU CAN SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
GENTLEMEN, AM I DOING SOMETHING WRONG? OH, THERE WE GO.
DID I, DOES THAT LOOK FAMILIAR?
IS IT ON? UH OH, WE MIGHT HAVE TO PHONE FRIENDS.
IT'S ON THE INTERNET, RIGHT? YEAH, SORRY FOR THE DELAY.
I TEACH TO THE RESCUE, HOPEFULLY
THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE, ACTUALLY THIS SLIDE.
IF IT WON'T WORK, I CAN DESCRIBE IT IN
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GREET.ALL RIGHT, SO HERE'S THE SCENE.
SO WE'VE GOT FOUR JUMPS, SORRY, FOUR JUMPS AND FOUR JUMPS ON ONE SIDE, FOUR JUMPS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
AND THERE'S A RELAY RACE MIXED WITH DRAG RACING FOR DOGS.
AND THERE'S THE FOUR DOGS GO DOWN ONE AT A TIME.
THEY HIT A BOX, CATCH A TENNIS BALL, AND RETRIEVE IT BACK AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
SO THEY HAVE TO DO IT AS FAST AND CLEANLY AS POSSIBLE.
IF THEY MAKE AN ERROR EARLY PASS, DROP A BALL, THEY HAVE TO RERUN.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE AGILITY OR DOG DIVING WHERE IT'S INDIVIDUAL.
THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE AN ENTIRE TEAM AND YOU TRAVEL ALL ACROSS THE EAST COAST TO COMPETE.
UM, SO AT A CURRENT, IN ANY EVENT, YOU COULD HAVE 150, 200 DOGS COMPETING IN A WEEKEND.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS FACILITY IS DOING.
WE ARE NOT HOSTING TOURNAMENTS, BUT WE NEED TO TRAIN THOSE DOGS IN ORDER TO GET THEM ON THE CALIBER.
TO COMPETE AT FLYBALL, YOU HAVE TO START FROM BASICS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I DO AND THAT'S WHAT THIS VIDEO WOULD'VE SHOWN.
SO THIS WOULD BE MORE OF A DOG DOING, UM, STUFF ON THE FLAT ONE-ON-ONE WITH ME, UM, WORKING ONE WITH ANOTHER DOG.
SO TEACHING 'EM ALL THE LITTLE BASIC MECHANICS IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT LEVEL OF COMPETITION.
SO WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BE A FLYBALL DOG? UM, SO THESE DOGS ARE MORE THAN JUST A PET FOR US.
THEY'RE LITERALLY OUR PARTNER.
WE OFTEN REFER TO FLYBALL AS A CAREER.
IT'S THEIR CAREER, IT'S THEIR JOB.
UM, SO TO HAVE THIS JOB, THEY NEED A LOT OF IMPULSE CONTROL.
IN THE VIDEO, YOU WOULD'VE SEEN SEVEN WITH, THERE WERE EIGHT DOGS TOTAL OFF LEASH AT THE SAME TIME.
AND THESE DOGS ARE RUNNING DOWN 90 FEET AND 90 FEET BACK.
SO THESE DOGS HAVE TO BE RELIABLE IN ORDER TO RECALL BACK TO YOU.
THEY HAVE TO BE FOCUSED AND THEY CANNOT BE AGGRESSIVE IN ANY WAY BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH OTHER DOGS AND OTHER PEOPLE.
UM, THEY NEED TO BE ENGAGED, THEY HAVE TO LOVE THE SPORT.
YOU CAN'T MAKE A DOG DO FLYBALL.
'CAUSE AS SOON AS YOU LET 'EM GO, THEY CAN BE LIKE, NO, I DON'T WANNA DO IT.
BUT BECAUSE THEY LOVE THE SPORT AND WE TRAIN THEM BASICALLY FROM PUPPY HOOD, THEY LOVE IT.
UM, AND THEN I'D ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT THEY TEND TO BE ON THE SMALL TO MEDIUM SIZE.
UM, MAJORITY OF FLYBALL DOGS ARE NOT LARGE OR EXTRA LARGE BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PICTURE THE BOX IS 24 TO 28 INCHES WIDE.
SO LARGER BREED DOGS WOULD HAVE A HARDER TIME EXECUTING THE SPORT SAFELY.
ALRIGHT, SO WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SERVICES THAT I OFFERED.
SO I'LL GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY.
WEEKLY CLASSES, MONTHLY BOOT CAMPS, THE PRIVATE ONE-ON-ONES.
I DO TRAIN ONLINE USING MULTIPLE DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. UM, WE HAVE THE SCRIMMAGE TOURNAMENTS, WHICH ARE THE LARGEST EVENTS, BUT THEY'RE ONLY ONE TO TWO TIMES A YEAR.
SO LAST YEAR I WENT TO IDAHO, COLORADO, CALIFORNIA, TENNESSEE.
AND THIS YEAR I'M HEADED TO ALASKA.
SO MY CURRENT FACILITY IS VERY LONG BUILDING.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE DOGS HAVE TO RUN DOWN 90 FEET AND COME BACK.
SO YOU'LL KIND OF SEE THE DIFFERENT STRIPS OF MATTING RUNNING DOWN.
SO THE FUTURE FACILITY, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE MOCK UP.
UM, THE TWO BATHROOMS, INDOOR CRAD AND HVAC, I'M SUPER EXCITED ABOUT.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE IT.
UM, IT WILL BE 12 FEET TALL, UM, CRUSHED GRAVEL FLOORING.
I WILL BE ADDING CLOSED CELL SPRAY FOAM TO BOTH THE SIDES AND THE CEILING.
NOT ONLY FOR CLIMATE CONTROL, BUT FOR NOISE CONTROL AS WELL.
AND THEN HERE IS A TERRAIN VIEW OF WHERE THE FACILITY WILL BE LOCATED.
THE BLUE ICON IS PRECISION FLYBALL, AND THE PURPLE ICON WILL BE MY RESIDENCE.
SO I WILL BE THE ONE CLOSEST TO MY FACILITY AND MY HUSBAND WORKS FROM HOME.
AND OBVIOUSLY IN ADDITION TO PRECISION, I'M AT HOME WITH MY CHILDREN.
ALL RIGHT, SO RULES FOR FLYBALL DOGS.
SO CLEANING UP, MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S DESIGNATED POTTY AREAS AND THAT YOU USE POOP BAGS.
YOU PICK IT UP, PUT IT IN THE TRASH CAN.
WE NEED THEM TO WORK AT THEIR PEAK PERFORMANCE.
SO WHEN IT'S NOT YOUR TURN WORKING, YOU ARE IN A CRATE RESTING.
AND ESPECIALLY AT CLASSES, YOU PITCH IN FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
SO YOU ROTATE THROUGH, YOU HELP WITH YOUR DOG, AND THEN YOU PUT YOUR DOG AWAY, AND THEN YOU HELP WITH EVERYBODY ELSE'S DOG.
UM, SO THERE'S NO OUTDOOR FACILITY, THERE'S NO DOGS, UM, OUTSIDE BARKING OFF LEASH.
UM, BECAUSE NUMBER THREE, YOU HAVE TO STAY ON LEASH AT ALL TIME WITH YOUR OWNER.
UM, AND THEN NUMBER FOUR, APPOINTMENT ONLY.
SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANYONE ON THE FACILITY WITHOUT MY, UM, ADVANCE NOTICE.
UM, AND I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO COME VISIT IT.
YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE APPROVED TONIGHT AND ONCE CONSTRUCTION STARTS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME CHECK IT OUT.
UM, AND I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAD.
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UM, SO, UH, MY INITIAL QUESTION WAS GONNA BE WHEN I SAW THE, UH, THE EMAILS AND EVERYTHING ROLLING IN WAS WHY YOU CHOSE GOLAND.BUT, BUT YOU ADDRESSED THAT AND I'M VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT WHERE'S THE CLOSEST COMPETITION FACILITY? LIKE, LIKE WHY FOR FLYBALL SPECIFICALLY, RIGHT? RIGHT.
THE NEAREST CLOSEST FACILITY THAT WOULD TEACH FLYBALL? WELL, NO, NO, NOT THAT WOULD TEACH, BUT LIKE WHERE WOULD YOUR DOGS GO TO COMPETE? OH, TO COMPETE.
WELL, I'M HOPING EVENTUALLY IN RICHMOND, IF ONE LEVEL UP IS OPEN, THEY'LL HOST THERE.
BUT, UM, WE CURRENTLY TRAVEL TO BLACKSBURG, VIRGINIA, FRANKLIN, VIRGINIA, CLIMAX, NORTH CAROLINA, RALEIGH, NORTH CAROLINA.
UM, THERE'S SEVERAL UP IN THE NORTHERN REGION UP, UM, MARYLAND, PENNSYLVANIA, JERSEY.
BUT THOSE ARE TYPICALLY WHERE WE GO.
WE USUALLY COMPETE ABOUT ONCE A MONTH.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS HOW LONG IS A TRAINING SESSION? UH, SO WEEKLY CLASSES ARE TYPICALLY TWO TO TWO AND A HALF HOURS.
A BOOTCAMP IS AN ALL DAY, THAT'S USUALLY NINE TO FOUR.
ONE-ON-ONE PRIVATES CAN RANGE FROM 30 TO 90 MINUTES.
UM, AND THEN A SCRIMMAGE IS USUALLY FOUR HOURS.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT MOST OF THEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY.
UM, SO I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, COMMENTS SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL AND NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IN LENGTH.
AND, UM, JUST LIKE, UM, ANY OTHER TIME, IF MULTIPLE CITIZENS WANNA HAVE A COMMON SPEAKER, THEY MAY SEE THEIR TIME IN TWO MINUTE INCREMENTS UP TO A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES.
MY NAME IS ERIN MCNEIL AND I AM A LAWYER IN THE CITY OF RICHMOND WITH THE OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
AND I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF TRAINING WITH SHELLY JUST THIS PAST WEEKEND AT LEVEL UP DOG SPORTS.
AND MY DOGS NEVER COMPETED IN FLYBALL.
UM, I ONLY HAD THE CHANCE TO TRAIN WITH, UM, SHELLY AND SOME OF THE OTHER PARTS OF HER COM FLYBALL COMMUNITY THAT ARE SITTING BEHIND HER.
AND JUST THE CHANCE TO TRAIN IN THIS SPORT WITH MY DOGS WAS A CHANCE TO BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.
AND THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT CAME WITH THEIR TEENAGERS THAT GOT THEIR TEENAGERS EXCITED TO PLAY GAMES WITH THE FAMILY DOG AND THEIR PARENTS.
AND THEY GREW UP IN THE SPORT JUST LIKE I HOPE SHELLY'S SONS WILL AND THE CHANCE TO MAKE THESE CONNECTIONS.
IT'S BEEN A DECADE SINCE I TRAINED WITH, UM, SOME OF THESE FOLKS THAT I SEE SITTING HERE IN THIS ROOM.
AND WE'RE STILL FRIENDS AND WE STILL MEET UP WHENEVER WE CAN.
AND EVEN THOUGH I DON'T PLAY FLYBALL, THE CHANCE TO LEARN SOME OF THE SKILLS THAT SHELLY PRESENTED ABOUT ENHANCED MY DOG'S LIFE AND MY LIFE, NOT JUST AS A DOG OWNER, BUT ALSO AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.
I ALSO SENT AN EMAIL TO THE BOARD, UH, HOPE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT.
BUT THE RISING TIDE DOES LIVE ALL SHIPS, AND THERE IS, UM, PAUSE TO SWIM DOG SWIMMING FACILITY JUST IN ROCKVILLE.
AND SO THAT IS A GREAT PLACE TO CONDITION YOUR SPORT DOGS.
UM, THAT THERE'S FOOD LOCATIONS NEARBY THIS PROPOSED LOCATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE PICKING UP HOT DOGS AND CHICKEN FINGERS AND SANDWICHES, UM, AS THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY TO AND FROM LESSONS.
AND SO HAVING, UM, A FAMILY FRIENDLY FACILITY THAT ENCOURAGES COMMUNITY, I THINK IS SO IMPORTANT, UM, IN A PLACE LIKE GLIN.
AND IT DOES BRING A COMMUNITY TOGETHER.
AND, UH, THOSE FOLKS WILL BE PATRONIZING THE OTHER BUSINESSES IN THE AREA, WHICH I THINK IS A BOON TO EVERYONE, EVEN IF YOU DON'T PLAY LEVEL.
COULD YOU, MS. MCNEIL? I'M SORRY.
COULD YOU OFFER YOUR ADDRESS? I, I DIDN'T THINK YOU GAVE IT.
UM, I LIVE IN HANOVER COUNTY AT 64 29 CHESTNUT CHURCH ROAD IN MECHANICSVILLE, BUT THAT DOES SHOW A FACILITY IN GLAND.
I WOULD COME, IT'S NOT THAT FAR FOR US.
WE TRAVEL ALL AROUND FOR THESE EVENTS AND FOR TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES, AND I WOULD ABSOLUTELY TRAVEL TO SHELLY'S FACILITY IN GOOCHLAND TO TRAIN MY DOGS.
IT'S NOT FAR FOR SOMEBODY THAT WANTS A SPECIALIZED FACILITY LIKE THIS ONE.
I LIVE AT 1 5 6 3 0 RIVER BEND TRAIL IN EXA VIRGINIA.
IT IS A SINGULAR PLEASURE FOR ME TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF MS. SHELLY
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THIS EVENING.ALTHOUGH SHE IS APPLYING FOR A KENNEL LICENSE, HER PRIMARY WORK IS NOT BOARDING IN KENNELING.
UH, HER PRIMARY OBJECTIVE IS OF COURSE, TO RUN A TRAINING FACILITY.
I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CANINE SPORT OF FLYBALL FOR APPROXIMATELY 14 YEARS.
I'M CURRENTLY IN THE PROCESS OF TRAINING A DOG NOW, AND I CAN SAY WITHOUT HESITATION OR RESERVATION THAT MS. SHELLY IS THE BEST TRAINER THAT I HAVE EVER WORKED WITH.
SHE POSSESSES A DEEP INTUITIVE UNDERSTANDING OF THE CANINE MIND AND THE PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES ASSOCIATED WITH DEVELOPING A CANINE ATHLETE.
HER PRIMARY FOCUS IS TO TEACH SPORTS SPECIFIC SKILLS ASSOCIATED WITH FLYBALL.
IN RECOGNIZING HER SKILLS AND TALENTS AS A TRAINER, IT IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE WHAT SHE IS NOT.
SHE IS NOT AN ANIMAL BEHAVIORIST.
HER WORK DOES NOT FOCUS ON PROBLEMATIC BEHAVIORS IN DOGS SUCH AS AGGRESSION, ANXIETY, AND FEAR, WHICH ARE TYPICALLY ROOTED IN PHYSIOLOGICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES.
TYPICALLY, THOSE OF US WHO EMPLOY MS. SHELLY ARE NOT NOVICE HANDLERS.
WE HAVE MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE WHEN IT'S TIME TO SEEK SPORTS SPECIFIC ASSISTANCE FROM SHELLY.
OUR DOGS ALREADY POSSESS FOUNDATIONAL SKILLS SUCH AS BASIC MANNERS AND OBEDIENCE.
WHEN TRA TRANSITIONING FROM OUR CARS TO THE TRAINING BUILDING, OUR DOGS ARE ALWAYS ON LEASH.
THEY ARE EAGER TO GET INSIDE BECAUSE THE TRAINING IS FUN AND EXCITING BOTH FOR THEM AND FOR US.
YOU'D NEED NOT WORRY THAT THIS ENDEAVOR WILL CREATE A PUBLIC NUISANCE.
SHELLY HAS OPERATED THIS VERY BUSINESS WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF THE CITY OF DANVILLE, VIRGINIA FOR SEVERAL YEARS WITHOUT INCIDENT COMPLAINT OR POLICE CALL FOR SERVICE.
BY THE WAY, WE HUMANS ARE PRETTY TAME AS WELL.
UH, WE'RE NOT A BUNCH OF RABBLE ROUSERS THERE TO PARTY AND CORRALS AND PLAY LOUD MUSIC AND SEEKING TO RELOCATE TO CENTRAL VIRGINIA.
THERE WERE OTHER COUNTIES IN THE RICHMOND METROPOLITAN AREA THAT THE ICKS MIGHT HAVE, UH, CHOSEN TO MEET THEIR NEEDS, INCLUDING HANOVER, POWHATAN, AMELIA, AND LOUISA TO NAME A FEW THE ICKS.
MATT AND SHELLY AND THEIR SONS ARE A YOUNG FAMILY.
THEY ADHERE TO FAMILY VALUES AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HARD WORK AND DILIGENCE IN BUILDING A LIFE.
TOGETHER, THEY HAVE CHOSEN GLIN FOR THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT IT CAN PROVIDE, GOOD SCHOOLS, LOW CRIME RATES, EMERGENCY SERVICES, PLACES OF WORSHIP, NEARBY SHOPPING AND CULTURAL OPPORTUNITIES.
I HOPE YOU WILL JOIN ME IN WELCOMING THIS FINE YOUNG FAMILY TO GLAND COUNTY AND TO CENTRAL VIRGINIA BY VOTING IN FAVOR OF THEIR APPLICATION.
MY NAME IS REBECCA BROWNING HERRERA.
I HAVE LIVED IN GLAND FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS.
MY RESIDENCE, THAT'S 40 50 WHITNEY DRIVE, AND THIS FACILITY IS GONNA BACK UP RIGHT BEHIND MY PROPERTY.
UM, A FEW YEARS AGO, THEY CUT DOWN ALL THE TREES.
SO YOU COULD IMAGINE MY CONCERN WHEN I SAW, UH, THE TREES BEING CUT DOWN.
I WAS TOLD AT THAT TIME THAT THEY WERE GONNA, UH, REPLANT PINE TREES.
SO I WAS VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
AND, UM, SINCE, UM, WITH THE FACILITY COMING IN, UM, I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED.
NUMBER ONE, THE NOISE, UH, NUMBER TWO, TRAFFIC.
UM, AND NUMBER THREE, BECAUSE THE TREES HAVE ALREADY BEEN CUT DOWN, THERE'S NO, UH, BOUNDARIES.
AND I'VE HAD PROBABLY ABOUT EIGHT TREES FALL INTO MY PROPERTY SINCE THEY CUT THOSE ORIGINAL TREES DOWN.
I'VE SINCE TALKED TO, UM, SHELLY, AND I WAS GONNA SAY MISS, BUT I'M OLDER THAN HER, SO I'M NOT CALLING HER MISS.
UM, I'VE SPOKEN WITH HER AND SHE HAS ANSWERED SOME OF MY CONCERNS.
I GUESS NOW IT'S JUST THAT, UM, WITH THE PROPERTY BEING SO CLOSE, 50 YARDS OF MY PROPERTY, BECAUSE THE REASON I MOVED OUT TO GLAND WAS BECAUSE I AM IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND TO GET AWAY FROM THE CITY, COME TO GLAND PEACE AND QUIET, AND, UM, MY KIDS COULD GO TO A SCHOOL SYSTEM THAT I WAS PROUD TO SAY THAT THEY ATTENDED.
WHICH ONE EARTH AT THIS POINT, TO GO A LITTLE BIT INTO MY FAMILY, I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT ATTENDED GLAND COUNTY WHO, UM, CURRENTLY IS AN ATTORNEY.
SHE WENT TO, UM, HOWARD UNIVERSITY, AND SHE'S A PRACTICING ATTORNEY.
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AT UVA AND SHE'S IN MEDICAL, UM, HEALTH, UM, PUBLIC HEALTH, AND SHE'S PURSUING HER MASTER'S DEGREE RIGHT NOW.AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER DAUGHTER, UH, WHO'S IN CHILDCARE TEACHING.
SO I SAY THAT TO SAY GLIN SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS REALLY HELPED MY FAMILY.
I WANT TO RETIRE IN PLACE IN GLIN, SO I WOULD LIKE TO STAY AT MY RESIDENCE UNTIL I HAVE NO LONGER TIME.
SO I'M JUST HOPING THAT THIS IS GONNA WORK OUT FOR EVERYONE AND I CAN RETIRE IN MY HOME.
MY NAME IS THERESA LL I LIVE AT 42 95 TICKER CREEK DRIVE IN POW TOWN.
UM, AND I JUST WANNA ADDRESS, UH, I AM PART OF SHELLY'S VILLAGE.
UM, I'VE KNOWN SHELLY FOR A VERY LONG TIME AS A YOUNG PERSON.
UM, SHELLY HAS HONED HER SKILLS IN BUSINESS, UH, THROUGH HER DEGREE AT VIRGINIA TECH, HER WORK AT A BIG ACCOUNTING FIRM, AND THEN SHE TOOK THE LEAP AND HAS OWNED AND OPERATED PRECISION FLYBALL IN DANVILLE FOR A COUPLE YEARS.
SHE DID TRAIN MY YOUNGEST DOG FROM VERY BEGINNING, UH, TO TODAY.
AND BECAUSE OF HER COMMITMENT TO US, UM, HE IS EXCEPTIONAL, A 3-YEAR-OLD DOG.
UM, BUT THE PEOPLE, AS HAVE MANY PEOPLE HAVE ALLUDED TO, AND, AND SHELLY'S NEIGHBOR, UM, WE'RE A REALLY RESPECTFUL LOT.
AND, UM, ESPECIALLY IN DANVILLE, THERE'S A BUSINESS LIKE, RIGHT, LIKE RIGHT UNDERNEATH SHELLY'S BUSINESS, AND THERE'S NEVER BEEN A QUABBLE.
UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT DOGS BARK.
UM, SO WE, WE ARE QUICK AND EFFICIENT, UM, TO MAINTAIN.
WE WANNA KEEP DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHERE WE'RE DOING IT.
UM, AND SO WITH THAT, I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR SHELLY'S APPLICATION.
ANY MORE CITIZEN COMMENTS? OKAY.
IF NOT, I WILL CLOSE THE HEARING.
UH, DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING THAT WAS STATED? OKAY.
UM, BOARD ANY COMMENTS, DISCUSSION? WELL, I, I, I WAS CONFUSED, UH, BY HER NEIGHBOR.
WERE WERE YOU IN SUPPORT, MA'AM? OR WERE YOU IN OPPOSITION? NEITHER.
I JUST WANNA SEE HOW, I WANTED TO MAKE MY POINT KNOWN THAT I WANTED THE AREA TO STAY AS IT WAS WITH THE PEACE AND THE QUIET.
I DON'T WANT TO HEAR DOGS BARKING.
I DON'T WANT DOGS IN MY PROPERTY AND TRAFFIC.
SO, UH, AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT OPPOSING IT.
UH, BUT I'M HOPING WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER.
I GUESS, CAN I, CAN I STAND UP AND SAY ONE THING OR JUST TALK TO ME? OKAY.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, YEAH, I HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE.
DO YOU HAVE A SECOND? I HAVE AN ENTHUSIASTIC SECOND.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION? OKAY, MR. CHAIR? YES.
UM, MR. CHAIR, I, I SEE, UM, A FIRE MARSHAL IN THE BACK.
THE ONLY THING I, I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT, NOT, I MEAN, I'M GUESSING EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT THE 49 PEOPLE MAXIMUM FOR A FI 6,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
UH, JUST SURPRISE ME A LITTLE BIT.
SO I DON'T, I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD TALK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH, THE, OH, I, I THINK THIS PROBABLY CAME FROM THE BUILDING OFFICIAL, AND IT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, ACTUALLY, MR. UM, DAVIES MIGHT ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO THIS.
'CAUSE I THINK IT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH FIRE SUPPRESSION.
THE REASON I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE I'VE HEARD, MM-HMM.
I GOT 49 DOGS AND YOU COUNT 50 PEOPLE.
SECOND TIME IN A COUPLE WEEKS.
UM, YOU'RE INQUIRING AS TO THE, SO IT, THE OCCUPANCY, THE REASON, THE REASON THE OCCUPANCY WAS, UH, THE, THE CONDITIONAL USE SAYS THAT IT'LL BE LIMITED TO 49 PEOPLE.
IT BECAUSE OF THE, THE BUILDING SIZE.
BUT IT'S A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LARGE BUILDING FOR SUCH A SMALL OCCUPANCY RIG.
THE BUILDING OFFICIAL USUALLY FIGURES OCCUPANCY LOAD, BUT IT'S BASED ON A FORMULA ON HOW MANY SQUARE FEET FOR EACH PERSON THAT'S STANDING, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET FOR EACH PERSON THAT'S SEATED.
AND IF THERE'S TABLES INVOLVED, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE INCREASES FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE.
SO LET'S SAY LIKE A STANDING PERSON IS SEVEN SQUARE FEET, BUT A TABLE WOULD BE 15 SQUARE FEET IF YOU'RE SEATED.
IF YOU'RE SEATED, IT'S LIKE 10 OR 12 SQUARE FEET.
I DON'T RECALL THE TABLE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD COMPLETELY, BUT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL USUALLY FIGURES THAT OUT.
AND I THINK THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND WHETHER OR NOT, UH, FIRE PROTECTION IS REQUIRED, UH, AFFECTS ALL OF THAT.
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BUT WE'RE PRETTY SURE THIS IS IN LINE WITH THE CODE SHERIFF.YES, MR. CHAIR? UH, SPOON HOWER.
THIS DID COME FROM THE BUILDING OFFICIAL.
MR. CHAIR, ANY, NO OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.
UM, WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO, UH, APPLICATION CU 2024 DASH ONE, UH, APPLICATION BY RIVER RUN MANOR FOR A RENEWAL OF ITS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UH, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE STAFF FOLLOWED BY THE APPLICANT IF THEY, SO, OH, I'M SORRY.
I WAS HOPING SHE WAS GONNA BRING DOGS, BUT
FOR THE RECORD, I'M JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS AN APPLICATION BY RIVER RUN MANOR, LLC.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A RENEWAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A PA, A PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT, UM, MAP ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, UH, JUST EAST OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE.
AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU SEE THE
[3. District 3 - CU-2024-00001 Application by River Run Manor, LLC requesting renewal of conditional use permit (CUP) case CU-2019-00011 for a public assembly place on 61.302 acres located at 2421 River Road West on Tax Map Nos. 54-5-0-9-0 and 54-3-0-C-3. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 in accordance with Sec. 15-290. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as a Rural Enhancement Area.]
AERIAL, UH, SO IT IS LOCATED SOUTH OF, UH, RIVER ROAD WEST.UH, THE AREA IS SURROUNDED, UH, BY, UM, AGAIN, LARGE LOT, UH, SUBDIVISIONS AS WELL AS FARMLANDS.
AND THE JAMES RIVER TO THE SOUTH RIVER CLIFF IS LOCATED DIRECTLY TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY.
THE ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY IS AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, AS ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.
A PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY IS ALLOWED IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH IS THE REASON FOR THE APPLICATION.
UM, THE, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA, AS IS THE AREA SURROUNDING, UH, SIMILAR TO THE OTHER, UH, APPLICATION I PRESENTED.
IF, UM, THE CONDITIONS ARE CONSISTENT WITH, UM, THE APPLICATION FOR THE AREA, THIS USE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO, JUST A LITTLE HISTORY ABOUT, UH, THIS SITE.
UH, IN 2019, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WAS APPROVED FOR A PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY.
UM, THIS IS, UM, A PREVIOUS RESIDENCE WHERE THE APPLICANT HAS PURCHASED THE PROPERTY AND HAS RENOVATED, HAS DONE A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL RENOVATION TO THE PROPERTY.
UH, LOWER LEVELS HAVE, YOU KNOW, GRAND BALLROOM AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HOST WEDDINGS.
IT, IT REALLY IS QUITE A, UM, A GRAND, UH, VENUE.
UH, THE APPLICANTS ACTUALLY DO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY.
AND HERE ARE SOME PICTURES FROM THEIR WEBSITE THAT KIND OF DEPICT WHAT I WAS JUST SORT OF ALLUDING TO.
UH, THE CENTER PICTURES, THE TOP ONE IS THE FRONT OF THE MANOR.
UH, THE BACK, UH, DIRECTLY BELOW THAT IS THE REAR PORTION OF THE MANOR.
AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, THERE'S LIKE A VESTIBULE OF SORTS THAT ARE LOCATED RIGHT THERE.
UM, RIGHT HERE IS THE INTERIOR MARBLE FOYER, UM, YOU KNOW, A GRAND STAIRCASE.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A PULL HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER.
SO HERE IS THIS SITE, UM, AN AERIAL OF THE SITE.
SO YOU HAVE, UM, RIVER ROAD WEST WOULD BE ALL THE WAY TOWARDS THE TOP.
UM, THE ACCESSING THE PROPERTY, UH, JUST DIRECTLY FROM BROAD OR NOT BROAD STREET, UH, RIVER, UM, UH, RIVER ROAD WEST.
UM, AS WITH ALL OF OUR, UM, PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLIES, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR OVERFLOW PARKING.
THIS IS LIKE A, A DRIVEWAY THAT LEADS UP TO THE MANOR.
UM, THEN WE HAVE THE POOL HOUSE AND THE POOL AS WELL AS, UH, TENNIS COURT ARE LOCATED RIGHT THERE.
UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HOUSE.
THE HOUSE IS, UH, 22,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE POOL HOUSE IS A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, I MEAN A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
UH, AND THE PARKING AREA DOES HAVE, UM, A AREA OF GRAVEL MARKED PARKING, 4 75 SPACES.
UM, THIS IS, UM, ACTUALLY THE APPROVED POD FOR THE SITE.
SO YOU'LL SEE AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, THE ACCESS FROM RIVER ROAD WEST, THE 75 PARKING SPACES, THE OVERFLOW PARKING,
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THE MANNER, AND THE, UM, POOL HOUSE AND TENNIS COURTS.THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY PHYSICAL CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO HERE WE HAVE KIND OF JUST A LITTLE LOCATOR AS TO, UM, WHAT IS CLOSE BY.
I MENTIONED RIVER ROAD WEST IS TOWARD THE TOP.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT HERE IS THE LOCATION TO THE RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS THAT ARE RIGHT HERE.
BOTH OF THEM ARE BETWEEN 700 AND 730 FEET FROM THE ACTUAL VENUE.
SO THE APPLICANT IS, UM, REQUESTING A RENEWAL, BUT THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING SEVERAL CHANGES TO THEIR APPLICATION.
WHEN, UM, IN 2019 WHEN THEY DID COME TO THE COUNTY AND WAS GRANTED THEIR, UH, APPROVAL OF THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, IT WAS PRETTY HEAVILY, UH, REGULATED.
SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR SOME LOOSENING UP OF SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS.
THE, UM, APPLICANT AND THE CUP USES HAVE NOT HAD ANY ZONING VIOLATIONS SINCE IT WAS, UM, UM, ISSUED.
SO WHAT I HAVE HERE IS, UM, A LIST OF WHAT THEY REQUESTED, UH, WHAT WAS, WHAT IT, WHAT THEY REQUESTED, AND WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS RECOMMENDING.
SO NUMBER ONE, UH, LIMIT ON GUESTS.
THE 2019 APPLICATION HAD A MAXIMUM OF 299 GUEST.
UM, THAT WAS A, UH, LIMITATION THAT WAS PLACED BECAUSE THAT WAS THE, UM, THE BUILDING OFFICIAL ALSO SET AN OCCUPANCY ON THE, THE HOUSE ITSELF.
SO WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IS 299 GUEST THAT COULD BE ALLOWED WITHIN THE MANNER.
AND THEN, BUT OVERALL, A MAXIMUM OF 500.
UM, AT ANY EVENT, AND THIS WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE EVENT LIMIT, UH, BACK IN 2019, THEY WERE APPROVED FOR 40 EVENTS PER YEAR, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING TO HAVE ONE PER DAY.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID, UH, RECOMMEND APPROVAL NUMBER THREE HOURS OF, UM, HOURS FOR THE EVENT.
UH, THEY DID REQUEST ONE CHANGE, AND THIS WAS JUST TO HAVE THEIR, UH, HOURS EXTENDED ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT ON THE INTERIOR, UM, OF THEIR MANNER TO GO TO MIDNIGHT INSTEAD OF, UM, MIDNIGHT, I MEAN INSTEAD OF 11:00 PM AND THAT WAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AMPLIFIED SOUND.
UH, THEY, UM, WANTED A, SOME RELIEF FROM THAT.
SO THERE WERE LIMITED TO SIX TIMES PER YEAR OUTDOORS.
UM, AND THEY WERE REQUESTING TO HAVE NO LIMITS, AND THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE SAY OUTDOORS, IT INCLUDES, UM, THEM BEING WITHIN SOME SORT OF TENT OR ON A PORCH THAT HAS SOME SORT OF, UH, COVERING AS WELL.
AND THAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
NUMBER FIVE, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO DO FIREWORKS ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE APPLICANT, UM, I MEAN THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL ON THIS.
AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING INSTEAD OF A 10 YEAR RENEWAL, WHICH IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO FOR, UM, A RENEWAL, UH, 10 YEAR EXPIRATION FOR A RENEWAL, THEY ARE REQUESTING 15 YEARS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED 10 YEARS.
SO, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FIREWORKS.
UM, I'D KIND OF GONE THROUGH THE OTHER LISTING OF THINGS THAT THEY DID APPROVE.
WHAT THEY DID NOT APPROVE WAS FIREWORKS.
UM, SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
THE FIRE MARSHAL, UM, VISITED THE, UM, THE VENUE AND IDENTIFIED ONE LOCATION WHERE THEY CAN CONDUCT FIREWORKS.
AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL UP THERE, THE, THE CIRCLE THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 160, UM, UM, FEET IN DIAMETER.
UM, AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT INDICATES THE, THE, UM, THE FALLOUT SITE WHERE, YOU KNOW, FIREWORKS GO UP, THAT'S THE POTENTIAL WHERE THEY WOULD COME DOWN.
AND THERE IS ALSO ASSOCIATED THAT WITH THAT 160 DIAMETER IS WHERE YOU, WHERE THE, THE RECOMMENDED SHELL SIZE FROM THE PRIOR MARSHAL CAME APPROXIMATELY 1.6.
THE APPLICANT WILL PROBABLY TELL YOU THERE IS NO 1.6.
UH, SO 1.5 IS PROBABLY WHAT THEY WOULD BE GOING WITH.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, UH, SHOWED YOU THE TWO SITE PLANS.
THIS AREA IS THEIR OVERFLOW PARKING AREA, SO IT WOULD IMPACT THAT.
SO WHEN THEY, IF THE, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE WHERE PEOPLE WOULD BE PARKING, AND THAT AREA WOULD HAVE TO BE, UM, LIKE MARKED OFF SECURE.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POTENTIAL IMPACT IS OF ALL OF THE PUBLIC PLACES OF ASSEMBLY, NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN ISSUED, UM, APPROVAL FOR FIREWORKS.
UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE IT KNOWN TO YOU, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, IF WE WERE TO GET, UM, COMPLAINTS AND THEY WERE OPERATING WITHIN THEIR CUP RIGHTS, WE WOULD HAVE NO RECOURSE.
THEY WOULD BE LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DO IT.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE NOISE
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ORDINANCE WOULD NOT APPLY IN THE EVENT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, THAT THE BOARD, UM, WERE TO APPROVE THIS.UM, WE DID HAVE SOME LANGUAGE, UM, THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AND IT DID GO OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT.
I DID HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE APPLICANT, UM, AND WHAT WENT OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT WAS A 9:00 PM ENDING TIME.
UH, THEY REQUESTED 10 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES IN THE, IN THE SUMMER IT'S NOT REALLY DARK UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK.
BUT, UM, JUST REAL QUICK, UM, IF YOU WERE TO APPROVE IT, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE A, A MAXIMUM OF 15 EVENTS, UM, FOR FIREWORKS ANNUALLY, UH, THAT THE DISPLAY WOULD ONLY BE FIVE MINUTES LONG.
AND THAT'S, UH, TIME BUILT IN BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO, UH, KIND OF HAVE A LITTLE FUMBLE.
UH, THEY SAID MOST ARE, UH, SHORTER THAN THAT.
UH, MENTIONED THE 10:00 PM UM, PRIOR TO A FIREWORKS EVENT, A MINIMUM OF TWO WEEKS, THE APPLICANT WILL BE NOTIFYING THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEY WILL MUST GET A PERMIT FROM THE FIRE MARSHAL.
AND HE'S HERE ALSO CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU, UH, THERE AS A PERMITTING PROCESS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
UM, AND AGAIN, I MENTIONED THE SHELL SIZE, SHELL SIZE OF 1.62 INCHES, THAT'S BASED ON THAT FALLOUT ZONE.
AND, UM, ANY ALTERNATIVE PARKING THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE, THEY NEED TO SHOW US WHERE THAT'S GONNA BE BEFORE THE EVENT.
SO THERE WAS A COMMITTEE MEETING HELD BACK IN DECEMBER, APPROXIMATELY EIGHT PEOPLE DID ATTEND.
THERE WERE QUESTIONS, UM, AND YOU KNOW ABOUT THE NUMBER EVENTS, OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, GRANTING ACTUALLY ANOTHER FIVE-YEAR APPROVAL SINCE THERE WERE SO MANY CHANGES INSTEAD OF GOING TO 10 YEARS, UM, ENFORCEMENT OF HOW WE ENFORCE OUR, OUR CONDITIONS, UM, NOISE AND THE POTENTIAL FOR FIREWORKS.
UM, FEW ATTENDEES DID EXPRESS SUPPORT, UM, BUT THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT, AGAIN, UH, NOISE FOR THE FIREWORKS AND THE GRANTING OF THE 10 YEAR APPROVAL.
SINCE THE COMMUNITY MEETING STAFF HAS RECEIVED TWO PHONE CALLS, CONCERNS ABOUT POTENTIAL NOISE.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS ACTIVITY, THE CUP ACTIVITY HAS NOT GENERATED ANY COMPLAINTS SINCE IT WAS ISSUED BACK IN 2009.
UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IF THE CONDITIONS, UM, APPROVED WITH THIS, UM, CUP MITIGATE SURROUNDING AREA PROBLEMS, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, SO BACK IN JANUARY, THIS WAS HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IT WAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE CHANGES THAT I WENT THROUGH DURING THE PRESENTATION WITH A FIVE ZERO VOTE.
NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC SPOKE, AND I MENTIONED THAT ALREADY WITH ABOUT THE TWO PEOPLE CONTACTING US.
SO THIS IS A CHART, UM, WHAT IT SHOWS ARE, UM, IN THE FIRST COLUMN, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS ITEMS THAT ARE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH EACH OF THESE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
RIVER ROAD 2019, UH, 2024 WITH THE REQUESTING FROM US NOW.
AND ALSO HAS, UH, DOVER HALL, BANDIT RIDGE RUNNING MAYOR, UM, AND ADAMS SCHOOL, JUST IN CASE YOU WANTED TO COMPARE SOME OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE APPROVED WITH EACH ONE OF THOSE.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, EVERYTHING THAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE FIREWORKS, WHICH AS YOU CAN SEE THERE HAVE BEEN NONE ISSUED, UM, WITH A, UH, CONDITION USE PERMIT, UH, PERMITTING, AS WELL AS, UM, THE, THE 10 VERSUS 15 YEAR RENEWAL.
SO I'LL HAVE THIS TO PULL UP IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONS RATHER QUICKLY.
I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT, UH, SOME OF THE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN CHANGED.
THESE ARE BLACKLINED FROM THE 2019 APPROVAL.
A LOT OF IT IS JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE UPDATED OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS.
SOME OF IT IS JUST THAT THE CHANGES ARE IN, UM, UNDERLINED.
SO, UM, THE USE TO ALLOW, UH, UM, A PUBLIC PLACE OF ASSEMBLY IS NUMBER ONE, THE SITE PLAN.
UH, SO CURRENTLY THEY HAVE AN APPROVED POD THAT ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE UP TO 299 PEOPLE.
UM, SO THAT'S THE 75 SPACES AND THE OVERFLOW AND, YOU KNOW, THE ACCESS AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.
ONCE THEY ARE TO EXCEED, BEFORE THEY EXCEED THAT 2 99, THEY WILL NOT NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER APPROVED, UH, POD.
SO THIS GIVES OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE REVIEWING STAFF, INCLUDING FIRE RESCUE TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE ENOUGH PARKING SPACES AND THERE'S SAFE WALKING PATHS, ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
UM, THAT THOSE ARE ALL, UM, TO, TO BE CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO THE CUP ACTIVITY, UM, OVER 2 99.
UH, SO THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, WORDS MISSING WITH THAT LAST ONE.
IN CONCEPTUAL PLAN, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT
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THAT IS REFERENCED.UM, PARKING, UH, 75 SPACES, UM, ARE REQUIRED UNDER THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
IF THEY, UM, INCREASE THEIR, UM, UH, ATTENDEES, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO REVISE, UH, THE PARKING FOR ON THE POD.
UH, AS IN THE OTHER CASE I MENTIONED THAT THE, UH, PARKING THAT IS IN EXISTENCE HERE IS GRAVEL.
SO THEY WOULD AGAIN BE ASKING FOR, UM, UH, GRAVEL TO BE, UH, APPROVED FOR ANY NEW PARKING, UH, INTERNAL ACCESS.
UH, THEY WOULD BASICALLY HAVE TO HAVE A, UM, A SAFE WAY TO, UH, GET TO ALL THE CUP ACTIVITY PLACES, UM, FOR FIRE RESCUE.
AND THIS WOULD BE APPROVED BY BOTH FIRE RESCUE AND MY DEPARTMENT.
UM, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A SIGN 32 SQUARE FEET.
UH, WE HAVE ADDED, UM, THAT 10 FEET AND IT SHALL NOT BE ILLUMINATED.
THAT'S THE, THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
ANY NEW LIGHTING, UH, PERMANENT OR, UM, TEMPORARY LIGHTING WOULD HAVE TO, UH, LIGHTING PLAN WOULD HAVE TO BE SUBMITTED.
UM, AGAIN, THE BUILDING OCCUPANCY IS, IS LIMITED, UH, BY THE BUILDING OFFICIAL AT 2 99.
THIS IS IN YELLOW 'CAUSE THIS WAS A, UH, SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE FROM 2 99 TO 500.
UM, AND THEN EVENT FREQUENCIES, UM, EVENTS WITH FEWER THAN 80, THERE IS A LIMIT OF ONE PER DAY EVENTS WITH, UM, OVER 80.
UM, UH, THEY WILL BE ALLOWED THREE TIMES A WEEK, BUT NO MORE THAN 150 IN A CALENDAR YEAR.
AND THIS, UH, NEXT 11 SHOWS THE, THE CHANGE FROM INDOOR, UM, HOURS TO EXCEED, UH, THE OH, FROM 11:00 PM TO, UH, MIDNIGHT.
AND, UH, THE HOLIDAYS THEY WILL NOT BE ACTIVE ARE CHRISTMAS EVE, CHRISTMAS OR EASTER.
UH, THIS IS THE AMPLIFIED SOUND.
UM, AND AGAIN, THEY WERE LIMITED, UM, ON DOING THAT.
SO THEY ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE, UM, AMPLIFIED SOUNDS UNLIMITED, BUT AGAIN WITHIN, UH, SOME SORT OF TENT STRUCTURE.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE JUST IN THE YARD.
UM, OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION, UM, STILL MUST BE ENDED BY 10:00 PM AND, UM, THE BASES SHALL, UH, FACE THE RIVER AND OVER A HUNDRED, UH, GUESTS.
THEY SHOULD HAVE, UM, UNIFORM SECURITY, ANY ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH THE A, B, C REGULATIONS.
AND THEN, UM, THE WAY THE CONDITIONS READ CURRENTLY, THEY'RE STILL PROHIBITED TO HAVE FIREWORKS.
THEY CAN HAVE THEIR PERSONAL FIREWORKS AS IT SAYS DURING ANY CUP ACTIVITY, BUT, UM, NOT FOR THE EVENT VENUE.
UM, FIREARMS, NO FIREARMS. THEY NEED TO CONTACT, UM, MY DEPARTMENT ANNUALLY WITH A LIST OF, UM, EVENTS.
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING THIS AND THEY UPDATE THEM REGULARLY AS THEY'RE SCHEDULED.
UM, THIS DOES SHOW THE, UH, 10 YEAR, UM, EXPIRATION DATE.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE TRANSFER OR LEASE, WHICH STATES THAT IF THEY WERE TO SELL OR LEASE THE PROPERTY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO NOTIFY THEM OF THE CONDITIONS AND WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE NOTIFIED AS A COUNTY.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I CAN ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION AND IS HERE AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE, UH, LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK? YES.
UM, I, I NOTICED THE RESTRICTIONS ON CHRISTMAS, CHRISTMAS EVE, AND NEW YEAR'S.
UM, I HAVE SOME JEWISH FRIENDS WHO MIGHT WANNA GET MARRIED ON DECEMBER 25TH, WHO, WHO CAME UP WITH THOSE TWO DAYS.
I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS WAS A DISCUSSION THAT EITHER CAME, UM, AS A RESULT OF, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT OFFERING IT OR MAYBE RESPONDING TO SOME OF THE, THE CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
THAT'S ACTUALLY KIND OF A STANDARD THAT WE HAVE FOR ACTIVITIES THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY COULD, UM, TO, COULD DISRUPT WITH SOME NOISE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IF, IF AN ACTIVITY, LOTS OF PEOPLE, THAT IS ONE OF OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS.
I WOULDN'T SAY STANDARD COMMON CONDITIONS, PERHAPS THAT'S A BETTER WAY OF PUTTING IT.
YEAH, I MEAN, WE, WE JUST ROLLED IT FOR, THEY DID NOT, UH, THROUGH THE RENEWAL PROCESS.
THEY DID NOT ASK FOR THAT TO BE WAIVED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY.
IF Y'ALL WANNA WAVE IT, IT'S TOTALLY FINE.
I'M NOT GONNA WORK ON EASTER, BUT SOMEBODY MIGHT WANNA GET MARRIED THERE.
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GO AND FORWARD BACK.THIS IS MY HUSBAND, ANDREW MOODY.
WE'RE 2 4 2 1 RIVER ROAD, WEST MAIDENS, VIRGINIA.
UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME.
WE WILL TRY TO GO THROUGH THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
UM, SO HERE'S THE PROPERTY IN USE, UM, ON THE SLIDE SHOW AT AN EVENT WITH AN OUTDOOR COCKTAIL HOUR, WHICH IS PRETTY COMMON USE FOR THOSE TWO EXTERIOR SPACES ON THE LEFT.
NEXT PHOTO IS, UM, OUR SMALLEST BALLROOM WE CALL THE CAMEO WITH, UM, JUST A NICE GRAZING TABLE SET UP FOR A COCKTAIL HOUR.
THE NEXT IMAGE IS ONE OF OUR BALLROOMS, THE WEDGEWOOD, WHICH IS OFTEN USED FOR DANCING.
AND THEN THE ONE TO THE RIGHT IS ANOTHER BALLROOM THAT HAS, UH, ABOUT A 200 PERSON DINING CAPACITY, UM, THAT IS ALSO SOMETIMES USED FOR DANCING AS WELL.
SO WE'VE BEEN IN THE WEDDING INDUSTRY FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE FOR ABOUT 20 YEARS.
UM, ABOUT 1400 WEDDINGS UNDER OUR BELT.
UM, SELF-EMPLOYED SINCE 2004, WHICH IS WILD.
UM, AND ANDREW IS, UH, BACKGROUND IN ACCOUNTING, BOOKKEEPING, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, REAL ESTATE.
SO WE'VE BEEN A GOOD PAIR ALONG WITH THE ADAMS, WHO ARE LONGTIME RESIDENTS OF TUIN COUNTY, PROBABLY BEST KNOWN FOR THEIR PROPERTIES ON THE TWO 50 BROAD STREET ROAD.
AND THE DEVELOPMENT AND RESTORATION OF THOSE, UM, AND THE OWNERSHIP OF THE ADAMS INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL, WHERE TAMARA FAITHFULLY SERVES AS AN EDUCATOR TO BOTH OF OUR CHILDREN HERE WHO ARE BEING BRIBED IN THE BACK WITH IPADS.
UM, I'LL PROBABLY GET FUSSED THAT BY TAMARA, BUT, UM, BUT ANYWAY, WE JUST ARE SO APPRECIATIVE OF THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN GOOCHLAND.
COMING INTO GLAND AS RESIDENTS OF NOTTAWAY COUNTY, UM, WAS A LITTLE BIT, UH, UNNERVING, I WOULD SAY.
WE, UM, CAME FROM A RURAL AGRICULTURAL AREA AND OUR FAMILIES ARE VERY CONNECTED IN THE COMMUNITY AND GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND NOT KNOWING ANY FACES WAS REALLY, UM, SOMETHING DURING THAT TIME.
SO WE APPRECIATE, UM, THE WARM WELCOME GLAND HAS GIVEN US SINCE THEN.
AND SINCE THE TRANSITION, UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT, RIVER RUN, THE CLIENTELE AVERAGE BUDGET IS ABOUT 80 TO $120,000.
SO ABOUT DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THE AVERAGE RICHMOND AREA WEDDING, UM, INDUSTRY, UH, PER EVENT.
SO JUST THIS WEEK WE'VE HAD CLIENTS WHO FLEW IN FROM NEW YORK AND, UM, CALIFORNIA BOOKED WITH THE PROPERTY OR IN THE PROCESS OF BOOKING WITH THE PROPERTY, ONE PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALL PLAYER.
WE'VE HOSTED, UM, I THINK FOUR PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES EVENTS SO FAR, NONE OF WHICH WERE VIRGINIA NATIVES.
THEY HAVE FOUND THE PROPERTY ONLINE, COME TO THE RICHMOND AIRPORT AND STAYED IN GLAND FOR THE WEEKEND.
SO I THINK THE TYPE OF TOURISM THAT WE BRING IN IS THE GOOD PART.
WE DON'T DO A LOT OF, UM, WE'RE NOT PUTTING PRESSURE ON A LOT OF THE SERVICES, THE SCHOOL SYSTEM, THAT KIND OF THING, BUT WE'RE BREATHING A LOT OF OF MONEY INTO THE COUNTY, UM, FILLING A LOT OF THE LOCAL HOTELS.
IF GLAND HAD MORE THAN ONE HOTEL, WE COULD PROBABLY KEEP THAT ONE PRETTY BUSY TOO.
BUT I THINK THE RESIDENTS INN, UM, HAS A GOOD NUMBER OF ROOM BLOCKS, YOU KNOW, FROM US PRETTY CONSISTENTLY.
UH, RIVER RUN, JUST IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, OVER 205 STAR REVIEWS.
UM, DOZENS AND DOZENS OF AWARDS, NO COMPLAINTS FOR OUR, FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, WE'VE INVESTED QUITE A BIT AS A PARTNERSHIP, BRINGING THE INTERNET SEVEN MILES FROM CROZIER UNDERGROUND, UM, PUTTING THE FIBER IN THE GROUND.
UNFORTUNATELY, THAT ALL HAPPENED IN PRE COVID TIMES.
AND, UM, SO YEAH, THAT'S A SEPARATE SIDE CONVERSATION, I THINK.
BUT, UM, A LOT OF OUR CLIENTS THAT VISIT ARE COMING INTO GLAND FOR THE WEEKEND, SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY HERE.
SO WE WANTED TO JUST TOUCH ON THE FIREWORKS THINGS SINCE WE KNEW THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT OF THE POINT OF CONTENTION.
WE'VE TALKED WITH A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT IT IN DEPTH.
UM, WE HAVE PUT SOME CONCESSIONS ON OURSELVES TO BE RESPECTFUL NEIGHBORS.
WE HAVE AN ELDERLY LITTLE DOG, AND WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS FOR BOTH LIVESTOCK.
WE'RE BOTH, UH, OF OUR FATHER'S OWN A LOT OF LIVESTOCK, SO THE FARM COMMUNITY AND THE, UM, SENSITIVITY TO THAT WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND.
SO WE'VE IMPLEMENTED, UM, OR PUT IN PLACE SOME OF THESE CONCESSIONS ON OURSELVES TO TRY AND MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT EASIER, UM, FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO, TO BE, JUST FOR US TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.
UH, UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
AND, UH, JUST WANTED TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THIS SLIDE.
UH, JAMIE, UH, COVERED MOST OF THESE, UM, WITH THE MEETING WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL TO GO OVER A SAFE
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LAUNCH LOCATION, THE LENGTH OF SHOWS, UM, THE SHELL SIZE, WHICH WE'RE LIMITED TO BY THE, UH, LAUNCH SITE.AND OF COURSE, WE WANT TO NOTIFY THE NEIGHBORS PRIOR TO ANY FIREWORKS IF THAT IS GRANTED, UM, TO BE GOOD, GOOD NEIGHBORS.
AND OF COURSE, WE WOULD LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF SHOWS, UH, PER YEAR TO 15.
THAT WAS COVERED BY JAMIE AND HER PRESENTATION.
UM, THIS IS JUST A SAMPLE, UM, AND IT'S SPACED OUT A LITTLE WEIRD ON, ON THE SCREEN, BUT WE PUT TOGETHER LIKE A RULES AND REGULATIONS AND WE'LL BE ADDING TO THAT.
UH, BUT THIS IS WHAT THE CLIENTS WOULD SEE.
UM, IF IT WERE ALLOWED, WERE ALLOWED, THEN WE WOULD HAVE ALL OF THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THE CLIENTS, UH, WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW, ALL LAID OUT ON THE RULES AND REGULATIONS FORM.
WE'D HAVE AN ADDENDUM THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO SIGN.
AND THAT'S EVERYTHING ON THIS WE COVERED, COVERED EARLIER.
OTHER, THE VIEWING AREA IS LISTED ON THERE.
AND THE LICENSED, UH, PRIOR TECHNIC PROVIDER, THEY'D HAVE TO WORK WITH THE, THE ONE THAT WE, UH, RECOMMEND.
AND HE'S ACTUALLY HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY FIREWORKS QUESTIONS.
BUT, UM, AND WE MENTIONED THIS AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, BUT JUST SO THERE'S, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TYPE OF FIREWORKS, UM, THAT WE ARE PROPOSING, UM, THE 1.3 G FIREWORKS ARE WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN, UH, LIKE A JULY 4TH CELEBRATION HAS, UH, MORE FLASH POWDER AND IT GOES HIGHER IN THE AIR.
AND OF COURSE, IT'S LARGER SHELLS.
THE ONES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING ARE CONSIDERED CONSUMER PROFESSIONAL GRADE.
UM, SO THEY DO NOT GO AS HIGH.
THE SHELVES ARE SMALLER AND THE, UM, DECIBEL LEVEL IS NOT AS AS LOUD FOR THEM.
UM, AND THIS IS, UM, ANOTHER SIDE THAT COMPARES THE, UH, DECIBEL LEVELS OF THOSE, UH, SIZE FIREWORKS TO OTHER, UM, LOUD NOISES.
AND, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, LEAF BLOWER IS RIGHT BELOW THAT.
AND I KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RUNNING THE LEAF BLOWERS EVERY THUR EVERY THURSDAY ON WEDDING WEEK, SO THAT PROBABLY GETS ANNOYING TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS.
AND, UM, THIS WOULD BE VERY, UH, SO MUCH OF THAT WHEN WE, A SHORT TRAIN, TRAIN, TRAIN HORN IS ACTUALLY, I THINK, HIGHER THAN THAT AS WELL.
AND WE HEAR THAT HOW MANY TIMES A DAY IN MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
BUT
AND THEN I THINK JAMIE SHOWED IT IN HERS LOT, AND IT'S, IT'S STILL APPROXIMATE.
THIS ONE DOESN'T ACTUALLY EVEN SHOW THE CURRENT PARKING LOT.
UM, BUT WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT PARKING, UH, CONSIDERATIONS WOULD NEED TO BE MADE.
AND I WENT OUT WITH A MEASURING TAPE TODAY, AND WITH OUR CURRENT, UH, PARKING LOT, IT WOULD AFFECT, UH, SEVEN PARKING SPOTS.
WE WE'RE ABLE TO, UM, WE HAVE SOME PLANS WITH THE OVERFLOW PARKING THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED WITH JAMIE AND WITH OUR POD, UM, UPDATED POD, WE CAN MAKE A NOTATION OF WHERE THE ADDITIONAL, UH, PARKING WOULD BE.
AND WE DO HAVE IT AS A REQUIREMENT IN OUR CONTRACT, UM, WITH OUR CLIENTS THAT IF THEY HAVE US OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GUESTS, WE REQUIRE THEM TO USE TRANSPORTATION TO TRANSPORT THEMSELVES IN, UM, FROM HOTELS, USUALLY THE RESIDENTS IN OUR OTHER HOTELS IN THE AREA.
UM, SO THAT PARKING USUALLY IS NEVER FULLY UTILIZED, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT REQUIREMENT THAT WE PUT ON THEM.
SO THAT WOULD BE ADJUSTED BASED ON IF THEY WERE TO REQUEST FIREWORKS.
WE WOULD SAY YOU'RE GONNA LOSE SEVEN SPOTS, SO YOU, THE REQUIREMENT OF, UH, PARKING SPACES, THAT WOULD BE LOWERED AS WELL.
UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD AS FAR AS APPRECIATION.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM.
BUT BOARD MEMBERS OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, I'LL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, COMMENT SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL AND NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IN LENGTH.
AND SAME GOES WITH, UM, BEING ABLE TO SEE TIME IN TWO MINUTE INCREMENTS UP TO APPROXIMATELY OF 10.
MY NAME IS GIL CRIT, AND MY WIFE AND I, LNA, WHO'S SITTING IN THE BACK.
WE HAVE BEEN LICENSED VENDORS IN THE HOSPITALITY BUSINESS FOR 20 PLUS YEARS, AND SADLY THREE YEARS AGO WE LEFT THE AREA OF WHICH I'M STILL PAYING THAT PRICE WHEN WE COME OUT HERE.
SHE, MY WIFE LOVES IT IMMENSELY, BUT KIM AND ANDREW, WE, WE WERE CHARTER, UH, VENDORS WITH THEM.
WE WORK PROBABLY 30 VENUES IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA, AND THEY ARE HANDS DOWN THE MOST THOUGHTFUL CARING PEOPLE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
AND AGAIN, WE HAD A HOME RIGHT IN MANNEQUIN SAOT AND APPRECIATE THE QUIET.
AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE LARGELY COME OUT HERE FOR.
AND THAT'S, UH, PROBABLY THE OVERARCHING, UH, MESSAGE THAT THEY SEND TO EVERYBODY WHO COMES OUT THERE AND WORKS WITH THEM.
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THAT WITH YOU.COULD WE GET YOUR ADDRESS? UH, I'M AT, UH, 800 ARLINGTON CIRCLE IN HENRICO COUNTY NOW, BUT WE WERE IN MANNEQUIN SABOT FOR 20 YEARS.
I'M MASON SHACKLES, THE SALES MANAGER AT THE RESIDENCE AT AND SHORE PUMP OF THE NOTCH.
UM, AND YOUR ADDRESS, SIR? MY ADDRESS IS 35 16 GROVE AVENUE.
AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY FIRST AND FOREMOST, UM, THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY EXCELLENT TO WORK WITH.
WE HAVE NEVER HAD A, AN UNSATISFIED GUEST, UM, WITH THE EVENT AND EXPERIENCE THAT THEY HAVE AT THAT VENUE.
UM, A LOT OF TIMES ACTUALLY, WE EVEN HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS OR FRIENDS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT THEY'VE DONE OR ATTEND THE WEDDING, AND THEN THEY WANT TO COME AND STAY AT OUR HOTEL IN ORDER TO, UM, HAVE THEIR WEDDINGS THERE.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, YOU KNOW, WITH GUESTS STAYING AT OUR HOTEL, ONE THING WE REALLY LIKE TO DO IS SEND 'EM IN TO GLAND.
UM, ANYTIME, YOU KNOW, UH, THEY HAVE FREE TIME.
NOT EVERYONE'S ALWAYS PART OF THE WEDDING.
WE TRY AND SHOW THEM THE GREAT SPOTS TO EAT NEARBY OR, UM, LITTLE, YOU KNOW, ANTIQUE SHOP, STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, JUST REALLY TRYING TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPERIENCE WITH KUCHIN.
UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN OVER A THOUSAND ROOM NIGHTS IN 2023, JUST FROM THEIR WEDDING GROUP BLOCKS AT OUR HOTEL.
UM, AND THAT TOTALS TO A LITTLE OVER $125,000 IN REVENUE.
AND THAT BEING SAID, UM, THE GUESTS HAVE ALWAYS HAD AN ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE.
AND WHAT BETTER WAY TO, YOU KNOW, SHOW HOW GREAT GLAND CAN BE BY HAVING SUCH A HAPPY CELEBRATION AND HAVE EVERYONE HAVE SUCH A GREAT TIME WHILE THEY'RE HERE? THANK YOU.
UH, MY NAME IS SETH DE CANNER.
I WAS ONCE A, UH, GLAND RESIDENT AT, UH, 21 HUNTING RIDGE ROAD FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS, BUT MY BETTER HALF, UH, HAD US MOVE GLEN ALLEN.
WE NOW LIVE AT 1 0 8 30, UH, MORNING CREEK DRIVE.
UM, I ALSO RUN ONE OF THE LARGEST CATERING COMPANIES IN THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA AREA, AND I'M VERY PROUD TO BE A PARTNER WITH, UH, THE ESTATES OF RIVER RUN.
UM, WE ARE ON THEIR EXCLUSIVE VENDOR LISTS, UH, WHICH IS UNIQUE BECAUSE THEY ONLY WORK WITH AN EXCLUSIVE VENDOR LIST, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE BRINGING OUT, UH, FOLKS THAT KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
UH, AND I CAN SPEAK, SPEAK ON BEHALF OF MANY OTHER VENDORS, UH, IN THE LOCAL AREA.
UM, MY MY TEAM MEMBERS LIVE IN THE GLIN AREA.
MANY OF THEM, UH, MANY OF THE VENDORS WE WORK WITH AT THE STATE OF RIVER RUN ARE FROM THIS AREA.
UM, AND, UH, THEY ARE A TOP-NOTCH RUN ORGANIZATION.
I DID JUST UNDER 1100 LARGE CATERED EVENTS IN 2023.
UM, THEY WERE MY LARGEST VENUE BY FAR.
UM, THEY'RE ONE OF THE FEW VENUES WHERE THE OWNERSHIP LIVE ON PROPERTY AND ARE THERE AVAILABLE AT ALL TIMES OF THE EVENT.
IF MY CAPTAINS HAVE A QUESTION AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, IF IT'S NOT ANDREW AND KIM, IT'S ONE OF THEIR OTHER ASSOCIATES ARE AVAILABLE.
THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE WATCHING, THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON AT THEIR VENUE, UH, AND THEY'RE ACCOUNTABLE.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY TEAM'S PERSPECTIVE, IT'S ONE OF OUR FAVORITE PLACES TO WORK.
I'M, I'M, I'M FORTUNATE TO BE AT SOME OF THE MOST GORGEOUS PROPERTIES AROUND THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA AREA, AND I GO ALL THE WAY OUT TO VIRGINIA BEACH, LYNCHBURG, CHARLOTTESVILLE, PETERSBURG.
UM, YOU HAVE A GEM IN YOUR BACKYARD, AND WE'RE SHARING IT WITH A LOT OF THE WORLD, UH, THAT IS COMING FROM CALIFORNIA AND OTHER AREAS, UH, A LOT OF WASHINGTON, DC AND, AND SO ON.
AND, UH, IT'S A GEM AND IT'S REALLY NICE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO SHARE IT WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME HAVE THEIR SPECIAL DAY OR EXPERIENCE THERE.
SO WE'RE PROUD TO BE PARTNERS AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING A LOT MORE WITH THEM IN THE FUTURE.
LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD MANNEQUIN SEVEN.
I THINK THEY'RE WONDERFUL FOR THAT.
MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE FIREWORKS.
I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS A GOOD THING TO, TO HAVE IN PLACE, UM, FROM A STANDPOINT OF ANIMALS AND GETTING CRAZY WITH FIREWORKS AND, AND IT, IT'S NOT LIKE THE, THE, UH, UH, LEAVE BLOWER THAT'S DURING THE DAY.
THIS IS AT 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
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A LOT OF US FOLKS, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, OLD FUDDY DADDIES LIKE ME ARE IN BED.UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE THINGS TO, TO DO.
AND WE ARE JUST NOT, WE'RE JUST NOT ACUTE TO THAT.
THIS IS FARMLAND, THIS IS, THIS IS AGRICULTURAL THING.
AND WE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT FIREWORKS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ABOUT IT BEING OUT THERE IN THE RURAL ENVIRONMENT.
AND YES, THEY, THEY, THEY ARE WONDERFUL FOR WHAT THEY DO, BUT I JUST THINK FIREWORKS IS A LITTLE BIT OVER THE EDGE.
AND I, I, I APPROVE EVERYTHING, BUT THE FIREWORKS IS GREAT.
I LIVE AT 1 2 8 8 3 RIVER ROAD AND, UH, IN THE EAST END OF GLAND, BUT I ALSO OWN THE PROPERTY THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE STREET FROM RIVER AND MANOR.
UM, I, I REALLY COMPLIMENT WHAT, UH, MR. MS. MOODY HAVE DONE WITH, UH, WITH THIS, UH, PREVIOUS MASSEY MANSION.
THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING.
FIRST CLASS IS A, IS A MAGNIFICENT FACILITY WITH MAGNIFICENT VENUES.
I REALLY RISE ONLY FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY.
CURRENTLY, THEY'RE PERMITTED 40, UM, ACTIVITIES PER YEAR AND ARE REQUESTING 320, UH, INCREASE, WHICH IS AN 800% INCREASE.
AND I'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE DEMAND REALLY IN WHEN JUSTIFIES AN 800% INCREASE.
MY EXPERIENCE AS A, AS A SURGEON, HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO MEASURE TWICE AND CUT ONCE
ANY ADDITIONAL CITIZEN COMMENTS, SIR? GOOD EVENING.
I AM BRANDON FRAZIER FROM SIGNATURE SPARKS.
UH, I AM THERE FOR FIREWORKS VENDOR, SO I'M GONNA SHED A LITTLE LIGHT.
COULD YOU GIVE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? MY ADDRESS, 86 10 PARKLAND TERRACE, ANO, VIRGINIA.
I'M AN HOUR AND 15 MINUTES AWAY.
SO I'M HERE BECAUSE THIS MAKES SENSE TO ME, OR I WOULDN'T HAVE DRIVEN HERE.
FIREWORKS THAT WE BE, THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE USED TO IS WHAT YOU SEE ON TELEVISION FOR 4TH OF JULY OF WHAT YOU'VE SEEN AT DISNEY OR WHAT YOU'VE SEEN AS THE BIG YARDS.
WHAT I'LL BE USING ARE WE CALLED OUR CLOSE PROXIMITY FIREWORKS OR ARTICLE FIRE PRO OR FIREWORKS.
ALL OF THE REPORT BURNS UP IN THE AIR.
THERE'S NOTHING FALLING TO THE GROUND INSTEAD OF YARDS.
IT'S A, WE HAVE A VERY SMALL WINDOW THAT ME AND MARSHALL DAVIES WENT OVER.
WE HAVE A VERY SMALL WINDOW TO LAUNCH FROM.
SO SAFETY IS ALWAYS PARAMOUNT WITH ME AND MY COMPANY.
I WOULDN'T DO THIS IF I DIDN'T THINK I COULD SAFELY DO THIS.
AS FAR AS DECIMAL LEVELS AS ANIMALS, I AM A ANIMAL LOVER, LOVER MYSELF.
I HAVE SIX ANIMALS AND TWO ELDERLY DOGS.
MATTER OF FACT, ONE WHO HAS TO GO TO EMERGENCY VET TOMORROW MORNING.
SO WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO ANIMALS, I'M GONNA PROTECT THEM FIRST AND FOREMOST.
NOW, YES, AFTER 10 O'CLOCK, I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO END ALL SHOWS SO THERE'S NOTHING GOING PAST 10 O'CLOCK.
SECOND OF ALL THE TRAIN THAT RUNS BEHIND THEM, YOU CANNOT PREDICT THAT.
SO THAT, THAT ENGINE BLOWING IS 180 DECIMALS AND THEY DON'T JUST BLOW THAT HORN ONCE.
SECOND OF ALL, MY FIREWORKS PROBABLY TOP OFF THE ONES THAT I'LL BE USING.
THEY'RE, UH, EIGHT TENTHS OF AN INCH TO 1.2 INCHES.
THEY'RE CALLED ARTICLE FIREWORKS.
LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE SPECIAL USED FIREWORKS FOR A VENUE THE SIZE.
I HAD TO DO RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE THAT I FOUND FIREWORKS THAT WOULD FIT THIS WINDOW.
AFTER MEETING WITH MR. DAVIES, WE KNEW THAT IT HAD TO BE A SPECIAL FIREWORK FOR A TIGHT WINDOW TO FIRE IN.
UM, WE USE THE UTMOST SAFETY WHEN WE DO ANYTHING, SEE THE FIRING CIRCLE.
THAT'S, UM, NOW IF YOU NOTICE, THE GUEST WILL BE EVEN FURTHER AWAY, BUT WE ALLOW OURSELF EVEN MORE SPACE JUST IN CASE A CATASTROPHIC FAILURE, WHICH IS, EVEN IF SOMETHING GOES COMPLETELY WRONG, NOBODY, NOTHING WILL GET CLOSE TO ANYONE.
BUT AGAIN, THESE FIREWORKS AS IN SIZE, AS IN RANGE, ARE, ARE MERELY TOYS COMPARED TO WHAT YOU'VE GUYS HAVE SEEN ON TELEVISION.
SO DON'T LET A PRECONCEIVED NOTION OF
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WHAT FIREWORKS, WHICH YOU'VE SEEN TO WHAT THESE ARE.SO WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THIS, IF I DIDN'T THINK WE COULD DO THIS PROFESSIONALLY, I WOULDN'T BE HERE.
'CAUSE THIS IS A LONG DRIVE IN THE COUNTRY.
BUT THIS IS A VERY LONG DRIVE AND KIM AND ANDREW HAVE BEEN EXCELLENT WITH THIS.
BUT I JUST WANT YOU GUYS TO KNOW, I WANNA DISPLAY ANY RUMORS BEFORE PEOPLE HAVE PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS OF WHAT THESE ARE.
UM, TO BE HONEST, CLOSE PROXIMITY, 70 FIREWORKS CAN BE FIRED WITHIN THE PROXIMITY OF 15 FEET AWAY.
THE REASON WHY I KNOW THIS IS BECAUSE I'M IN THE FIRING ZONE EVERY SINGLE TIME.
MY WIFE HATES IT, BUT I AM STILL HERE FOR IT.
BUT WE USE ABSOLUTE PROTECTION WITH EVERYTHING.
PLUS THAT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE VENUE, AND I'M PRETTY SURE MY INSURANCE COMPANY WOULD HATE IF I SET A FIRE THERE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, LISA AND GENTLEMEN.
ANY MORE CITIZEN COMMENTS? UM, SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE THE HEARING.
UM, DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT WAS STATED? UM, THANK YOU ALL.
UH, JUST TO BE REALLY QUICK, UM, DR.
WHIPPLE, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF EVENTS PER YEAR.
WE HAD ACTUALLY ASKED FIVE YEARS AGO FOR ONE PER DAY, WHICH FALLS IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE VENUES IN GLIN, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BUT CERTAINLY Y'ALL COULD PULL UP THE CHART IF THAT'S A QUESTION.
UM, THE STAFF AT THAT TIME RECOMMENDED THAT THE BOARD APPROVE ONLY 40 EVENTS PER YEAR TILL WE PROVE THAT WE COULD DO THIS WITHOUT, UM, CITIZENS BEING UPSET ABOUT THE NOISE.
AND JUST TO, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BOOK IN THAT WE CERTAINLY CAN'T CONTINUE TO PAY A MORTGAGE AND ALL THE OPERATING COSTS LIKE WE HAVE BASED ON 40 EVENTS PER YEAR.
WE, UM, 50 EVENTS IS PROBABLY RIGHT WHERE WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE, POTENTIALLY AS MUCH AS 60.
UM, WHILE IT'S JUST THE TWO OF US WORKING EVERY SINGLE EVENT, 6:00 AM TO ABOUT 2:00 AM EACH NIGHT WHEN WE'RE DONE CLEANING UP.
AND THEN I DO THE TOURS ALL DAY SUNDAY AFTERNOON AFTER CHURCH EVERY WEEK.
SO, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY LONG-TERM PLANS TO RATCHET UP, BUT WE DON'T WANNA GO BEFORE THE RENEWAL AGAIN IN FIVE OR SIX YEARS JUST TO ASK FOR 10 MORE.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT WAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UH, BOARD MEMBERS THOUGHTS? ANY DISCUSSION? UM, YOU KNOW, AS IT WAS SAID BEFORE, THIS, THIS PROPERTY, THIS FACILITY IS A GYM IN OUR COMMUNITY AMONG OTHERS, AND WE'RE FORTUNATE TO HAVE THEM AMONG OTHERS.
UM, THESE PEOPLE HAVE OPERATED THIS FOR FIVE YEARS RESPONSIBLY, I THINK.
UM, THEY HAVE DEMONSTRATED, UH, THE ABILITY TO CONFORM WITH ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND SO FORTH.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS THAT I'M AWARE OF FROM ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS OR ANYONE.
UM, AND I THINK THEY'VE APPROACHED THE FIREWORKS, UH, WITH A SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY AS WELL, HIRING A PROFESSIONAL, UH, MAKING SURE THEY'VE, UH, REVIEWED EVERYTHING WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL AND SO FORTH.
UM, YOU KNOW, FIREWORKS PART OF OUR AMERICAN HERITAGE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, WE CELEBRATE AND WE CELEBRATE WITH FIREWORKS.
AND SO I, YOU KNOW, I'M IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS.
UM, I THINK WITH THE RESTRICTIONS OR THE, THE LIMITATIONS THAT WE'VE PLACED ON THIS, I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO GET AN, A PERMIT FROM THE FIRE, UH, MARSHAL EACH TIME.
UM, THEY HAVE TO CONFORM WITH ALL THESE REQUIREMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND I, I SIT HERE AND I COMPUTED IT.
WE ARE ELIMINATING IT TO 15 TIMES A YEAR FOR FIVE MINUTE DURATION.
THAT'S 75 MINUTES A YEAR OF FIREWORKS SPREAD OVER 15 EVENTS.
NOW, I WOULD SAY, AND BY THE WAY, I CAN HEAR THE, UH, THE TRAIN WHISTLE FROM MY HOUSE.
AND TO ME IT'S A PLEASANT SOUND
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME WE CAN ENDURE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR FIVE MINUTES, UH, REGARDLESS OF HOW WE LOOK UPON IT.
AND CERTAINLY WE, UH, WOULD WANT TO, UH, TO ALLOW THEM THE ABILITY TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
I, I, I WANT THIS ENTITY TO THRIVE IN OUR COUNTY.
UM, IT'S, IT'S GOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SO THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER BOARD COMMENTS? OKAY, YOU WANNA MAKE THAT FORMAL MOTION? YEAH, I'D LIKE, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I MOVE THE BOARD GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2024 TRIPLE ZERO ONE FOR A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE AT 24 21
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RIVER ROAD WEST, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT.REMOVE THE SENTENCE IN CONDITION 16 AND REPLACE WITH THE FOLLOWING.
A MAXIMUM OF 15 EVENTS WITH FIREWORKS SHALL BE ALLOWED ANNUALLY.
THE FIREWORK DISPLAY SHALL NOT LAST LONGER THAN FIVE MINUTES.
WITH THE SHOW ENDING PRIOR TO 10:00 PM A MINIMUM OF TWO WEEKS PRIOR TO AN EVENT WITH FIREWORKS, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE NOTICE OF THE EVENT TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
THE APPLICANT MUST OBTAIN A FIREWORKS PERMIT FROM THE UCHIN COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL.
THE SHOW MUST BE PERFORMED BY A PROFESSIONAL POWER TECHNICIAN, AND THE SHELLS SHALL BE NO LARGER THAN 1.62 INCHES.
ALTERNATIVE OVERFLOW PARKING DURING THE EVENTS WITH FIREWORKS MUST BE SHOWN ON THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
OKAY, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIR? OKAY.
UM, SO THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE FOR ME BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE RARE CASES WHERE THE SYSTEM WORKS, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HEAR SOME STUFF ABOUT OUR NEXT CASE ABOUT HOW THINGS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THINK IT SHOULD GO.
YOU KNOW, I SAT IN THE AUDIENCE AS THIS CASE WAS BEING BROUGHT, UH, ACTUALLY A COUPLE TIMES I HAD TO SIT IN THE AUDIENCE BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY, UM, IT WAS A HOT TOPIC, IT WAS NEW, IT WAS, UH, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WEREN'T SURE HOW IT WAS GONNA GO.
SO WE, WE, WE HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE PUT CONDITIONS ON AND WE'VE SET TIMEFRAMES TO SEE HOW THINGS ARE GOING.
UM, IF YOU WOULD'VE TOLD ME, I HOPE SO, BUT IF YOU WOULD'VE TOLD ME FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYBODY REALLY COMING UP HERE IN OPPOSITION OF FIVE YEARS, UM, WITH THE ADDITION OF THESE, UM, UM, I TELL YOU THAT WE DID IT RIGHT AND THAT THE APPLICANTS DID IT RIGHT.
I'M GLAD TO SEE THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF GUESTS.
I THINK THE MORE FOLKS WE HAVE COMING AND, AND WE'VE PROVEN THIS IS A SAFE VENUE, WE'VE PROVEN THAT WE CAN MANAGE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC.
THERE'S GONNA BE LINES DOWN RIVER ROAD FROM, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET HOME TILL, YOU KNOW, THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
AND AGAIN, WHILE I WOULD LOVE, I I DO, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO CONTINUE THAT, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UM, THAT THIS BOARD IS LOOKING OUT FOR FOLKS.
SO KEEPING IT AT THE 10 YEARS, I THINK IS, UM, IS, IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
BUT FOR THAT, I, I APPRECIATE THEM COMING FORWARD, NO SEEING, NO ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS.
UH, MR. CARPENTER, ROLL COLBERT, MR. WINFREY? AYE.
MR. LYLE? YES, MS. CHRISTIE? YES.
UM, OUR LAST ITEM IS, UH, SORRY.
UH, AN AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE, COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 15 AND AMENDMENTS TO THE SUBDIVISION, UH, COUNTY CODE APPENDIX B TO IMPROVE ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND ROAD STANDARDS.
UM, WE'LL HEAR FROM MR. RAY CASH.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
AND I FEEL LIKE I LIVE ABOUT 150 FEET THAT WAY.
UM, LET'S SEE, THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, UM, TONIGHT IS, UM, AN ORDINANCE THAT WE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU AND THEN END UP GETTING DEFERRED BACK IN DECEMBER.
UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT AND SOME OF THE CHANGES AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, SO THE REQUEST, AS WE SAID, WAS AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO BOTH OUR ZONING AND OUR SUBDIVISION, UH, CHAPTERS.
AS WE STARTED OUT IN THIS, IT WAS REALLY TO ADDRESS THE PROVISIONS OF ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND ROAD DESIGN, UM, THINGS THAT HAVE COME UP OVER THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, UM, INVOLVING PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, MAKING SURE THAT
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WE HAD PROPER ROAD DESIGN TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE COUNTY.WE ALSO WANT CONSISTENCY BETWEEN OUR PLANNED ROADS AND OUR ORDINANCES.
THERE WAS A BIG DISCREPANCY BETWEEN WHAT WE PLANNED AND WHAT THE ORDINANCE CALLED FOR.
UM, WE ALSO WANNA PROTECT THE IMPROVEMENTS FROM FUTURE ROAD INSPECTION, UM, EXPANSION.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO MAKE THEIR INVESTMENT AND CONFIDENT AND CONFIDENT WE'RE NOT GONNA PLACE A ROAD RIGHT DIRECTLY ON THEM IN THE FUTURE.
UM, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT, PROMOTE BETTER SAFETY AND TRAFFIC FLOW IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
SO STARTING OFF, WE WANTED TO PROMOTE CONSISTENCY WITH OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
THE ORDINANCES AND THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN HAD DIFFERENT, UM, CLASSIFICATIONS.
THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL CLASSIFICATION, UH, THAT WASN'T EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT WAS IN THE, THE, THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THOSE WERE IN LINE SO WE CAN MAKE PROPER DECISIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THE ZONING
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AND DEDICATION PROCESSES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN DEVELOPMENT.UM, ACCESS MANAGEMENT STANDARDS, WE'VE PROPOSED A CHANGE TO MEET TO MATCH VDOT STANDARDS WITH SOME LIMITED EXCEPTIONS.
UM, AS AUSTIN ADOPT AND SAY, AND AS WE ALSO LOOK AT PROFESSIONALS, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE ULTIMATELY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAINTAINING THESE ROADS, SPECIFICALLY ARE SECONDARY AND LARGE ARTERIAL ROADS.
UM, WE ALSO, WE WANTED TO LOOK AT, WE HAD GREATER SPACING AND OTHER TYPES OF LANE DESIGN WAS THERE.
IF THERE'S A REASON, THEN WE NEED, WE COULD ADDRESS THAT.
UM, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE SHOULD BE CONSISTENT.
PEOPLE SHOULD UNDERSTAND AND WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN THEY COME TO DE
UM, CURRENTLY WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THERE WE WOULD KEEP THE CURRENT RIGHT TURN REQUIREMENTS, UH, SIMPLY FOR MOST TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS, INCLUDE MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS AND MODIFY, UM, UH, POTENTIALLY MODIFY THE LEFT PROVISIONS.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT EXACT PROVISIONS AS WE GO FORWARD.
WE WANNA UPDATE OUR COMMERCIAL DRIVE STANDARDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH FIRE CODE, BECAUSE CURRENTLY THERE WE'RE INCONSISTENT BETWEEN THOSE.
UM, AND THEN UPDATE OUR TIA PROCESS, OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, UM, WITH SOME MEYER CHANGES TO REALLY MATCH OUR PRACTICE AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE INDUSTRY.
WE ALSO ARE EXPLORING WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AS THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY DETERMINATION.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE HAVE, IN OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WE HAVE IN ROAD DESIGNS, WE HAVE IN VDOT REQUIREMENTS FOR ROAD DESIGNS AND FOR DEDICATIONS THAT COME ABOUT THROUGH ZONING AND OTHER DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY ESTABLISH WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY OF WHAT THE ROAD SHOULD ULTIMATELY BE.
THROUGH THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, WE'D LIKE TO, WHAT WE WE'RE LOOKING AT IS YOU PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE SETBACKS OR CONSIDERATION FROM THOSE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAYS THAT PROTECTS THEIR INVESTMENT IN THEIR PROPERTY FOR THE FUTURE.
IT ALSO PREVENTS CONFLICTS THAT MAY OCCUR WHEN THEY, YOU START GETTING THOSE, UM, USES TOO CLOSE TO THE ULTIMATE RIGHT AWAY.
YOU ALSO END UP WITH SIGHT LINES AND THE LIKE.
UM, THE OTHER IS THAT WE'VE PROPOSED SOMETHING THAT HAS COME FORWARD OFTEN BEFORE THIS BOARD.
TYPICALLY, ANYTIME WE SEEN A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UP ADJACENT TO AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECTOR ROAD, UM, THE PREVIOUS BOARD, AND I, I EXPECT THIS BOARD WOULD'VE SIMILAR EXPECTATIONS IS WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A TREE LINE BUFFER, UM, ALONG THOSE ROADS.
UM, TYPICALLY WHAT WE'VE SEEN ALONG THE HIGH VOLUME ROADS IS 100 FEET STAFF IS PROPOSING 100 FEET ALONG OUR ARTERIAL ROADS AND ALLOWED TO GO DOWN 50 FEET ALONG OUR COLLECTOR ROADS.
OF COURSE, THIS IS ESTABLISHED AS WE GO FORWARD CURRENTLY THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS.
THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT'LL BE A STANDARD CONDITION OR A STANDARD REQUIREMENT.
UM, ANY TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT COMES THROUGH THE BOARD COULD OF COURSE CONSIDER EXCEPTIONS, UM, DURING DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.
WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING IS THAT ALL ROADS, UM, BECOME PUBLIC, UM, ROADS AND MINOR SUBDIVISIONS THAT SERVE MORE, NO MORE THAN FOUR LOTS.
THOSE MAY BY RIGHT, UM, STAY PRIVATE.
WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED A PROVISION FOR SAND LEAF SUBDIVISIONS OF NO MORE THAN SIX.
WE'D ALSO LOOK AT FOR ROADS IN TOWNHOUSE, MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT THEY COULD BE PRIVATE WHERE THEY DON'T PROVIDE FOR GENERAL CIRCULATION.
AND WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS THAT'S OFTEN CUL-DE-SACS, UM, CONNECTION ROADS TO ALLEYS AND THE LIKE.
UM, WE'D PREFER THE TRAFFIC, HEAVIER TRAFFIC OR HIGHER VOLUME ROADS TO AND PROVIDE GENERAL CIRCULATION.
THEY OFTEN REQUIRE ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE.
IT'S HARD FOR SOME TYPE OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO REALLY MAINTAIN OVER TIME PROPOSED THAT THEY BE PUBLIC.
HOWEVER, FOR ANY OF THESE EXCEPTIONS HERE, THE BOARD COULD GRANT AN EXCEPTION THROUGH THE, UM, THE ZONING PROCESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH AN MPUD OR AN RPD, WE COULD ALWAYS LOOK AND SAY, WELL, IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, THESE CERTAIN ROADS COULD BE OR SHOULD BE PRIVATE.
UM, WE'D EXPECT PRIVATE ROADS, JUST LIKE THE PUBLIC ROADS TO BE BUILT TO THE VDOT STANDARDS IN THE FIRE PREVENTION CODE.
WE'VE ALSO PUT FORTH SOME SPECIFIC GOOCHLAND, UM, STANDARDS.
AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THAT IS BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN EXPECTATION, UM, FOR ROADS AND PUBLIC SAFETY HERE.
AND UNLIKE MAJORITY OF OUR LOCALITIES AROUND US AND, AND BEEN IN THE GAME FOR A WHILE, NOT EVERYBODY HAS APPENDIX D ADOPTED.
AND WE'VE LEARNED, AND I KNOW THIS BOARD, UM, HAS SPOKEN TO US ABOUT IT.
YOU HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS ABOUT PARKING SIGNS.
I MEAN, NO FIRE LIE SIGNS AND NO PARKING SIGNS.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THE SUBURB HAVE THE EXPECTATION THEY CAN PARK ON THE STREET.
IT'S, IT'S JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE.
PEOPLE OFTEN, ESPECIALLY DOWNSIZING THEIR GARAGE BECOMES FOR OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN CARS.
SO THEY NEED ADDITIONAL PLACES AND PEOPLE LOVE TO VISIT.
AND SO WHERE THOSE PEOPLE THAT VISIT PARK, UM, SO WE, WE'VE PROPOSED, UM, SUBDIVISION DESIGNS THAT WOULD MITIGATE THE NEED FOR FIRE SIGNS.
PRIVATE ROAD SUBDIVISIONS CAN STILL HAVE THE TWO, UM, LOTS SHARED DRIVE AS THEY ALWAYS TRADITIONALLY.
WE'VE UPDATED THE STANDARDS IN THE SUBDIVISION OWNERS
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FOR THREE TO FOUR LOTS.UM, THAT PREVIOUSLY SIX INCHES GRAVEL, UM, STONE.
WE'VE UPDATED THE 20 FEET OR IS WHAT'S REQUIRED BY FIRE CODE, BUT ALSO THAT NEEDS TO BE CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING PUBLIC SAFETY.
UM, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THAT MAY BE SOME EXPENSE IN SOME OF THE INITIAL OUTLAY, UM, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE CAN SAFELY NAVIGATE TO THEIR HOMES AND IMPORTANTLY OUR EMERGENCY CREWS CAN GET THERE SAFELY, UM, TO THEM.
UM, SO IT'S ADDITIONAL, A SLIGHTLY ADDITIONAL ASK.
AND THEY ALSO HOLD UP OVER TIME.
THE MORE YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE NARROWER ROADS, YOU END UP WITH RUDD AND ALL SORTS OF THING.
UM, SUBDIVISION ALLEYS WE CURRENTLY DISCOURAGE UNDER OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S AN OUTDATED CONCEPT.
YOU WILL SEE MOST THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN A LOT OF TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT, SMALLER, LOTS SUBDIVISIONS.
ALLEYS HAVE BECOME A MORE OF A STANDARD TYPE OF USE.
UM, ALLOWS FOR SOME DIFFERENT DESIGN OPTIONS, SOME IMPROVED DESIGN OPTIONS AS WELL.
AND WE HAVE STANDARDS IN PLACE THAT WE'RE EXPECTING THAT THESE ALLEYS WOULD BE OF A HIGHER DESIGN, BETTER SUPPORT THAN, UM, UH, MORE SIMPLISTIC.
UM, THEY USED TO BE MORE LIKE, UH, YOUR SOMEBODY PAID YOUR DRIVEWAY TO YOUR HOUSE.
UM, AS WE TALKED ABOUT SUBDIVISION ROADS, FIVE OR FIVE MORE LOTS UNLESS IT GOES THROUGH THE EXCEPTION PROCESS HERE BEFORE THE BOARD, UM, WOULD NEED TO BE PUBLIC ROADS.
WE'VE CRAWLED FOR CURB AND GUTTER, UM, FOR AN AVERAGE LOT FRONTAGE OF LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET.
SO WHAT'S THAT TRANSLATE TO? UM, SOME OF OUR R ONE DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE PUBLIC WATER AND SEWER, YOU'LL HAVE A LOT LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET MOST OFTEN.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE HIGHER DENSITY TYPE OF, UM, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS OF THE THE RPUD.
UM, WE'VE ALSO ENCOURAGED WHAT WE SEE AS A NO LOT FRONTAGE OR A SPINE ROAD WHERE THERE'S MORE THAN 200 UNITS OR WHERE THE CUMULATIVE TRAFFIC VOLUME EXCEEDS 2000 VEHICLES PER DAY.
YOU KNOW, GUCH DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF THOSE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS, BUT WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY OF CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THOSE UNITS AND THE OPPORTUNITY WE START TO DEVELOP BETTER ROADS AND BETTER CONNECTIVITY OR OPTIONS FOR ROADS.
IT TAKES A LOT OF PRESSURE OFF OF YOUR MAJOR COLLECTORS OR YOUR ARTERIALS AND PEOPLE HAVE TO, TO GO ONE PLACE.
THEY NEED TO GET BACK UP ON THE MAJOR ROAD AND GO OTHER.
BUT ALSO THIS IS A SAFER TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT.
UM, WE RECOGNIZE WE HAVE A LARGE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD IN, IN OUR, UM, WEST CREEK AREA, UM, THAT, THAT ROAD HAS A LOT OF UNITS FACING UPON IT.
WHAT THAT'S DONE, THE ROAD'S PRETTY NARROW.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONFLICTS ORIGINALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A CONCEPT THAT PROBABLY COULD HAVE PROVIDED BETTER TRAFFIC FLOW, BETTER TRAFFIC ACCESS.
THIS ALSO ENCOURAGES, UM, INSTEAD OF HAVING PEOPLE FROM ON SPINE ROAD, YOU'RE MORE OFTEN USED WITH A CON CONTINUES IN A CUL-DE-SAC TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT FOR THE LOTS, WHICH ALSO A LOT OF DEVELOPERS OR OR PURCHASERS, THEY'D RATHER BE ON THE CUL-DE-SAC THAN WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A HEAVY TRAFFIC ROAD.
UM, ROAD DESIGN, AS I MENTIONED, WE DEVELOP NEW DESIGN STANDARDS HERE.
WHAT THAT RESULTS IN FOR UM, ROADS IS A 56 VERSUS 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
IT'S NOT REALLY A LOT FOR THAT FOR WHAT WE GAIN, NOT HAVING THE NEED FOR FIRE, FIRE LINES.
UM, IT ALLOWS FOR ON STREET PARKING AND ALSO IT'S NOT THAT THE FIRE MARSHALS GOTTA CONTINUALLY EITHER SERVICE TICKETS GO VISIT OUT THERE OR WE HAVE TO BE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FOR EXCEPTIONS, UM, THROUGH THE FIRE CHIEF AND FIRE MARSHAL, UM, WE'VE PUT THOSE FIGURES IN THE DESIGNS INSIDE OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
LOT OF LOCALITIES DON'T, THEY JUST DEFAULT.
THE VDOT WE FELT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE STANDARDS IN OUR ORDINANCE.
PEOPLE WOULD UNDERSTAND AND WE COULD DO THAT SOMETHING ALSO.
WE CAN WORK WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT RIGHT.
DIFFERENT DESIGNS HAVE DIFFERENT, UM, ABILITIES.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, THE CHART THAT'S IN THE LOWER RIGHT HERE AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT THICKNESSES, THE DIFFERENT AGGREGATE AND STUFF THAT'S BASED UPON TRAFFIC VOLUME, JUST LIKE IT WOULD BE IF FIDO WAS INVOLVED IN THIS.
UM, SO YOUR CUL-DE-SACS, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING ABOUT A LESSER DESIGN THAN YOU WOULD BE ON SOME OF THE MAJOR STREETS.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN PROMOTING, ESPECIALLY IN RT, RPD, MORE OF A THROATED, UM, INTERSECTION TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT.
YOU ALSO SEE THAT A LOT OF, UM, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT'S OUT THERE PROMOTE SAFETY AND MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY DESIGN.
AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROADS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF CIRCUMSTANCES.
SO WHERE HAVE WE BEEN? SO IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION BACK IN NOVEMBER, UM, IT WAS APPROVED WITH A A FIVE OH VOTE AT THE TIME.
UM, THERE WAS STILL SOME CONCERN FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO CONSIDER, BUT THEY CONFIDENT IN STAFF AND CONVEYED THAT TO THE COMMISSION THAT THEY WERE OKAY AND, AND, AND WOULD NOT OBJECT TO IT MOVING FORWARD.
UM, STAFF DID MEET WITH THE H BAR REPRESENTATIVES AND OTHERS.
UM, WE DISCUSSED SOME PROPOSALS, UM,
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CHANGED THE REQUEST.I WILL SAY A LOT OF IT WAS REALLY, UM, GETTING DOWN TO, IS CLARIFYING REALLY WHAT WE ALREADY HAD AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, TO GAIN SOME UNDERSTANDING.
UM, I WILL SAY THERE WAS SOME, IT WAS REALLY RESULTING WITH SOME MINOR CHANGES, UM, TO THE ORDINANCE THAT, UM, WENT FORWARD FOR THERE.
AND UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING BASED UPON THE PROPOSAL THAT WE HAD, WE'VE RECEIVED, UM, AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO THE BOARD OF SUPPORT.
SO CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY ARE IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, WE ADDED AN INCLUSION FOR FIRE CODE EXCEPTION, UM, TO THE REMOTENESS STANDARD THAT'S ALREADY IN THE FIRE CODE.
WE ALSO FELT THAT WAS A LITTLE IMPORTANT TO ADD INSIDE THE ZONING ORDINANCE AS WELL BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROCESS THAT GOES FORWARD.
UM, WE'VE ALSO, UM, REVISED THE BUFFERS AS WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT.
UM, WE UPDATE THE PTIA REQUIREMENTS.
I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS IS THAT WE HAVE AN OPTION FOR EVALUATION AT TIME OF, UM, PLAN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BASED UPON THE DATA CURRENTLY IT'S ALWAYS AT THE, THE ZONING PROCESS.
UM, WE UPDATED, DID SOME TWEAKS TO THE, UM, FIGURES BASED UPON SOME COMMENTS RECEIVED AND THEN CHANGED THE STANDARDS FROM UH, THREE TO FOUR LOTS AND THEN EXTENDED IT TO FOR PRIVATE ROADS FOR SUBDIVISIONS OF SIX.
SO, UM, SINCE THE BOARD PUBLIC HEARING IN DECEMBER, WE HAD ANOTHER MEETING WITH 'EM AND RESULT IN JUST ONE OR TWO MORE CHANGES.
UM, WE ADDED THE TERM MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT FOR ROADS WHERE PRIVATE ROADS COULD BE UTILIZED.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S THE ONES THAT DON'T PROVIDE GENERAL CIRCULATION.
WE'VE ALSO, UM, HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT DEVELOPMENTS THAT EXIT ONTO AND STAFF AS YOU READ THINGS A HUNDRED TIMES, YOU SEE WORDS THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE BEFORE OR WORDS YOU THOUGHT WERE THERE THAT AREN'T.
UM, IF YOU NOTICE IN NUMBER ONE IT SAYS ALL ENTRANCES ONTO MAJOR AND MINOR ARTERIAL AND COLLECTOR ROADS MUST PROVIDE RIGHT TURN LANES.
NOW, PREVIOUSLY IT SAID MUST PROVIDE RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANES.
UM, WHAT WE HAVE, HAVE DONE HERE IS WHICH THAT THAT DEVELOPMENTS THAT EXIT ONTO IT SHOULD SAY MINOR MAJOR AND MINOR ARTERIAL WE'RE MISSING SOME WORDS AND COLLECTORS ROADS AND THAT HAVE 20 OR MORE LOTS MUST PROVIDE A LEFT TURN LANE AT EACH ENTRANCE.
UM, IF THEY'RE LESS THAN 20 LOTS, THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO INSTALL THEM IF WARRANTED BY VDOT.
SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT'S OVER A MAJOR TRAVEL OR A HEAVIER TRAVELED ROAD, UM, OR DIFFERENT TYPES OF CIRCUMSTANCES, THE 20 LOTS WOULD NOT APPLY IF THE VDOT WAS ALREADY GONNA WARRANT THAT.
UM, OR THE LESS THAN 20 COULD STILL BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT.
THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSED DURING THE ZONING CASE OF CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT.
UM, THE OTHER IS, UH, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.
WHAT WE DID IS JUST SEPARATE THE, UM, PROVISIONS OF MAJOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS WITH 20 OR MORE LOTS IS WHEN YOU NEED THE TIA AND THEN MAKE SURE THAT COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A TIA AS PART OF THEIR PROCESSES.
SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN CAME FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT IT SEEMED AS THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN BEFORE IT BEGA THE IMPLICATION THAT WE WERE REQUIRING SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET IN EVERY CIRCUMSTANCE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE INTENT WAS.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE INTENT OF WHAT THE BOARD HAD FOR THIS.
AND SO WHAT WE DO IS PROVIDE THAT.
UM, IT SHOULD BE ON ONE SIDE WHERE APPROPRIATE OR IT WOULD BE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE DISCUSS AT TIME OF ZONING.
AND THE SIDEWALKS WOULD BE REQUIRED AS INSTALLED AS REQUIRED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE OR CONDITIONS OF ZONING.
AND THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING WE WORK OUT.
THIS ALSO HAD PROVISION ABOUT WHERE CURB AND GUTTER WOULD BE REQUIRED, WHICH AGAIN IS LESS THAN 100 FEET OF THE ROAD FRONTAGE.
WE HAVE CLARIFIED, UM, BEFORE THERE WAS A, A BIG CONCERN ABOUT THAT WE HAD USED THE TERM SUITABLE.
UM, AND WHAT THIS TALKS ABOUT IS WHEN DEVELOPMENTS CONTAINED MORE THAN 40 LOTTS, THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT TWO SEPARATE PERMANENT ACCESS POINTS FOR ENTRANCE AND EXIT ONTO EXISTING PUBLIC RIGHTS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE IN OTHER CASES YOU'VE SEEN IS THAT'S IMPORTANT FROM FIRE CODE PERSPECTIVE.
AND REALLY THE STANDARDS OF HERE AND VDOT THE TWO REALLY EXPECT THAT THERE'S A SECOND ACCESS PROVIDED.
WE USE THE TERM TO TERM, UH, SUITABLE BECAUSE WE WOULD NOT WANT THAT SECOND ACCESS TO BE A PUBLIC ROAD OR A PRIVATE ROAD THAT IS NOT UP TO STANDARDS AND COULDN'T HANDLE THAT DISTANT VOLUME OR THE PAVEMENTS IN SUCH BAD SHAPE.
WE CAN'T DO THAT TYPE OF THING.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT A CASE WE HAD A FEW YEARS AGO, WE HAD WHIPPER OIL ROAD THAT WAS BEING EXPANDED.
WE WORKED WITH THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE SURE THAT ROAD BECAME SUITABLE BY IMPROVING THE PAVEMENT AND, AND THE DRIVEWAYS TO BE SO IT WOULDN'T BE SUCH AS BURDEN ON THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THE WORD.
WE WENT AHEAD AND EXPANDED UPON THAT SUITABLE TERM, UM, TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE COMFORT LEVEL TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AS TO WHAT IS MEANT BY THAT.
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LISTED THERE.UM, UH, STAFF OF COURSE IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND BE GLAD TO TALK IT THROUGH AND I WOULD NOTE THAT STAFF WOULD REQUEST THAT AND NO NEED TO WORK WITH YOU.
JUST MAKE SURE THE MAJOR OR MINOR GETS ADDED TO THAT CONDITION.
SHOULD IT BE STAYING FOR TURN LIENS? THAT MEANS EVEN IF THE BOARD MEMBERS DON'T CHOOSE TO MAKE ANY AMENDMENTS OR ANYTHING, THE APPROVAL MOTION WOULD STILL BE AS AMENDED BECAUSE STAFF IS TELLING YOU THERE'S TWO WORDS MISSING FROM THE, THE, THE SECTION AND I HAVE 'EM WRITTEN DOWN AND CAN REFER BACK TO THOSE.
SO ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. OH, MR. CHAIRMAN? UM, IF WE'VE GOT, I MEAN, WHEN, UH, WHEN WILL THESE AMENDMENTS OR THESE CHANGES BECOME EFFECTIVE? NOW I'M THINKING OF, UH, AN APPLICANT THAT HAS ALREADY BROUGHT FORTH, UH, IN THE PROCESS AND HE'S HAD ENGINEERING DONE AND ALL THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.
IS THIS FOR NEW APPLICANTS HENCE FROM NOW ON OR DOES IT RETRO? IT SEEMS TO ME IT MAKES SOME SENSE TO LET THE GRANDFATHER, UH, PEOPLE WHO'VE APPLIED UNDER THE BEFORE IT WAS CHANGED.
SO, SO WHEN YOU HAVE CHANGES LIKE THIS AND IT'S JUST LIKE IF WE MAKE ANY OTHER TYPE OF ZONING CHANGE, UM, YOU FOLLOW WITH THE STANDARDS AT THE TIME OF YOUR, UM, OF WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION, YOUR, YOUR SUBDIVISION APPLICATION, YOUR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND THAT OFTEN HAPPENS.
YOU ALWAYS HAVE STORMWATER REGS THAT CHANGE OVER TIME.
YOU CAN HAVE ZONING THAT'S BASICALLY BEEN SITTING OUT THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, 8, 10, 12, 15 YEARS.
I'VE SEEN, UM, MY, IN MY PAST MORE THAN THAT.
UM, SO THE EXPECTATION IS THERE ARE NEW ROAD DESIGNS IN PLACE.
SO AT THE TIME OF DEVELOPMENT, THERE WOULD BE THE RE THEY WOULD, UM, MEET THE CURRENT STANDARDS THAT WOULD BE THE SAME IF SETBACKS HAD CHANGED OVER TIME AND THE ZONING.
SO UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC IN THE APPROVED ZONING CASE, THEY WOULD MEET THE NEW CONDITIONS.
UNDER, UH, STATE LAW, A ZONING ORDINANCE, ONCE IT'S CHANGED, APPLIES UNLESS THE APPLICANT HAS ALREADY GOTTEN A SIGNIFICANT AFFIRMATIVE GOVERNMENT APPROVAL, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE ALREADY HAVE AN APPROVED PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, THAT WOULD MEAN THEY DON'T HAVE TO CHANGE.
BUT IF ALL THEY'VE DONE RIGHT NOW IS APPLY, THE LAW WOULD SAY THEY HAVE TO COMPORT WITH THE NEW REQUIREMENTS.
AND THAT'S JUST, THAT'S JUST HOW THE COURTS HANDLE IT.
THAT'S HOW THE LAW HANDLES IT FOR, UM, ZONING ORDINANCES CHANGES.
WELL, AND I NOTICED IN HERE WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIVE SOMETHING IF IT'S IT'S JUSTIFIABLE OR MAKES GOOD SENSE.
SO YEAH, THROUGH THE ZONING, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS, IF SOMEONE WOULD COME BACK FOR BEFORE YOU AND ASK FOR AN EXCEPTION, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT IS REALLY THE, THE TURN LIEN, UM, ISSUE IS ONE THAT WE WOULD EXPECT TO BE COMMON PUBLIC OR PRIVATE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S COMMON.
UM, I THINK, UH, WE'D MOST OFTEN SEE IN THE RPDS AND MPDS SORT OF ASKING FOR FLEXIBILITY WITH DIFFERENT ROAD DESIGNS THAT THAT'S, I WOULD MY EXPECTATIONS THAT WOULD BE PRETTY COMMON.
GOING BACK TO THE TURNING LANES, UM, I'VE HAD SOME BRIEF INTERACTION WITH STAFF AND, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS TURNING LANES INVARIABLY IMPROVE SAFETY AND, AND SO I I'M, UM, NOT SURE I'M COMFORTABLE WITH US REMOVING THE TURNING LANE REQUIREMENTS GIVEN THAT WE RETAIN THE ABILITY TO WAIVE THEM IN, IN CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING AND I UNDER HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HBAR AS RECENTLY AS TODAY THAT THERE IS AN ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE TURN LANE, BUT I'M HARD PRESSED TO PUT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT ABOVE SAFETY.
AND SO GIVEN THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE WAIVER ABILITY, UH, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN RETAIN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND WAIVE WHEN SENSIBLE AND, AND, UH, KEEP THINGS, UH, AS THEY ARE? UM, THAT'S CORRECT.
THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT, AS YOU MENTIONED, THE CURRENT ORDINANCE DOES HAVE THAT PROVISION, UM, THAT THEY COULD REQUEST, UM, EXCEPTION OR WAIVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR A RETURN LIEN AT THE TIME OF, OF ZONING, UM, ACTION.
SO RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, IF THEY DO OR DO NOT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO IT, THERE'S ALWAYS THEY NEED TO COME BACK BEFORE THE BODY IS THE CURRENT PROPOSAL.
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THIS WAS SOMETHING OF THAT WAS A REQUEST OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.IT WAS A MUCH LARGER, IT WAS A LARGER REQUEST AT THE BEGINNING.
UM, IT'S COME DOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, AND LETTING THAT EXPECTATION STAFF DID, UM, DO MODIFICATION, UM, THAT POTENTIALLY SHOULD THE BOARD WISH TO, UM, WE COULD SORT OF REIMPOSE WHERE WE WERE CURRENTLY, WHICH WOULD BE THE EXCEPTION THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS FOR A MAJOR SUBDIVISION THAT WOULD BE A DEVELOPMENT OF FIVE LOTS OR MORE WOULD NEED TO COME INTO THE, WOULD HAVE TO BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A TURN LANE.
UM, WE ALSO, UM, RECOGNIZE THAT OTHERS HAD THE CONCERN.
WE ALSO PREPARED AN OPTION THAT THEY COULD BE 10 INSTEAD OF THE 20.
UM, SO IT SORT OF CUTS DOWN THE NUMBER.
UM, I KNOW THAT, UM, AUSTIN HAD DONE SOME SORT OF OUR SELF-IMPOSED BENCHMARKING OF WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IN THE PAST AND THERE HAS BEEN OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THE BOARD HAS GRANTED THAT WAIVER, UM, FOR THAT.
UM, AND THAT ALSO WEIGHED A LITTLE BIT INTO WHAT STATS PRESENTATION.
OUR PROPOSAL WAS BASED UPON A BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WAS, UM, ASKING FOR AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN HERE BEFORE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, STAFF, STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, WELL THE BOARD AND WE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO CONSIDER MR. CHAIR.
I CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT REAL QUICK.
SO I, I THINK WE, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE, AND YOU HIT ON SOMETHING, UM, IN A ZONING CASE, THEY WOULD COME BEFORE US FOR WAIVER, BUT WE HAVE TO THINK BROADER THAN THAT OF BUY, RIGHT? WE ARE CHANGING BUY RIGHT REQUIREMENTS.
RIGHT? SO WHAT IS THE PROCESS THEN? IF I'VE GOT LAND, IT'S NOT A ZONING CASE, WHO DO I GO TO TO GET THAT WAIVER? 'CAUSE IT'S NOW, NOW I MIGHT HAVE TO COME IN FOR THE WHOLE BOARD IT, RIGHT? IT'S LET'S SAY YOU DID HAVE THE BY BY RIGHT SCENARIO AND YOU WANT TO DO, UH, LET'S SAY WE WERE AT THE 28 OR WHATEVER, THE PERSON COMES IN AND WANTS TO DO 25 LOTS.
UH, LET'S SAY, I'M SORRY, LET'S MAKE SURE IT'S UNDER THE NUMBER.
THEY WANNA DO 10, 15 LOTS, WHATEVER THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
UH, I'M SORRY, DID SOMEBODY ELSE WHISPERING.
BUT ANYWAY, LET'S SAY THAT UNDER THE CURRENT PROVISIONS THAT WE HAVE IN THE ORDINANCE, THAT EXCEPTION PROCESS IS ONLY AVAILABLE THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS.
UM, SO IF WE SWITCH SHIFT TO A SCENARIO THAT IT'S MORE OF A, THE BUY RIGHT SCENARIO, SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO ACTUALLY MAKE A ZONING APPLICATION SPECIFICALLY TO ASK, YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE WAIVER FROM THE BOARD THE FACT THAT THE STATEMENT COULD BE I'VE OWNED MY LAND, I'VE PLANNED TO DEVELOP IT, WE'VE CHANGED SOMETHING, NOW I HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD WHEN I DIDN'T BEFORE.
UM, WELL I THINK THAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD CURRENTLY IF THEY TRIED TO DO, UM, TURN LANE AND THEY'RE HAVING A MAJOR SUBDIVISION OF FIVE LOTS OF MORE TO GET THAT WAIVER.
WELL, WE'RE PROPOSING NOW IS THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO SO WHAT THIS PROPOSAL WAS IS OUT THE 20, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD.
BUT AGAIN, IT, IT'S, IT'S AWKWARD WHEN YOU HAVE A SITUATION THAT YOU HAVE TO OPEN UP ANOTHER PROCESS TO GET AN EXCEPTION TO ONE.
UM, BUT THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WITH ROAD DESIGN, IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT WAS ADMINISTRATIVE TYPE OF REVIEW OFF ADMINISTRATIVE.
WELL, YEAH, AND, AND I THINK I APPRECIATE MR. SPOONER'S COMMENTS 'CAUSE I'M, I'M EASILY CONFUSED ON OCCASION, UHHUH
IT'S KEEPING WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
WHICH WOULD BE FOR A MAJOR SUBDIVISION, WHICH WE'RE GONNA DEFINE AS FIVE LOTS OR MORE OKAY.
WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A TURN LANE.
I'M NOT INTERESTED IN IMPOSING NEW RESTRICTIONS PER SE, BUT I AM INTERESTED IN RETAINING THE SAFETY STANDARDS THAT SEEM TO HAVE BEEN WORKING OKAY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M COMING BACK TO ROAD SAFETY AND I'M THINKING OF IN FIFTH DISTRICT ROADS, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CURVES.
A A LOT OF STRICT ROADS OUT THERE.
I'M, I'M I APPRECIATIVE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GRANT WAIVERS, WHICH THIS PREVIOUS BOARD, THE 2023 BOARD DID.
BUT THERE ARE ALSO INSTANCES, I BELIEVE THE 2023 BOARD DID NOT GRANT WAIVERS BECAUSE, UH, THEY FELT THAT THE SAFETY MM-HMM.
I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT IMPOSING NEW RESTRICTIONS, BUT KEEPING WHAT WE HAVE.
UM, UH, THIS ONE SORT OF KEEPS IT IN PLACE.
UH, IT'S MORE OF AN, A REARRANGEMENT OF THE LANGUAGE.
PUT YOU BACK IN THE SAME PLACE.
THIS IS A MORE GENERAL QUESTION OF PLANNING, BUT MM-HMM.
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UPDATES, CONSISTENCY STANDARDS.THAT IS THE FEELING OF PLANNING THAT THIS ALLOWS US TO BE MORE STANDARDIZED, MORE IN LINE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE BACK AND FORTH THAT WE INEVITABLY HAVE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
THEY UNDERSTOOD WHAT GOOSE ONE'S GOAL WAS.
UM, WE'VE BEEN NOTIFYING DEVELOPERS FOR THE PAST YEAR THAT ARE COMING THROUGH ZONING LAG APPLICATIONS.
HEY, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING BETTER HERE, UM, FOR THAT.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, NOT SURE WHAT THEY, THEY FEEL ABOUT THE LAST CHANGE, BUT THEY, THEY HAD BEEN SUPPORTIVE BEFORE ON, ON, ON THE PROPOSAL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
UM, THANK I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SAME RULES RELATING TO TIME AND, UH, SEATING TIME APPLY.
UH, MY NAME IS MARK KYLE AND I LIVE ON ROBINSON ROAD IN, UH, SANDY HOOK AREA.
AND IN GENERAL, I'M IN SUPPORT IN FAVOR OF THIS, UH, AMENDMENT OR, UM, UPGRADING, UPDATING THE RULES AND THE ROAD FOR THE ROADS.
UM, AND I, I BASICALLY JUST WANNA TELL YOU, IF, IF IT HAD BEEN IN PLACE BEFORE BECAUSE OF WHERE WE BUILT A HOME, IT WOULD'VE HELPED BECAUSE, UH, ROCKETS RIDGE NOW CAME IN BECAUSE IT WAS APPROVED LIKE 2006 OR OH SEVEN AND NOW THEY HAVE A, A SECOND ENTRANCE ONTO A ROAD THAT IS NOT REALLY, UM, DESIGNED AND BUILT FOR THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M GIVING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS WOULD HAVE, UH, BEEN HELPFUL TO HAVE IN PLACE.
AND ALSO HAVING THE PRIVATE, UM, ROAD GRAVEL ROADS OR PRIVATE SUBDIVISION AND THE, A STANDARD FOR THAT WOULD HELP ON THE GRAVEL ROAD THAT I LIVE ON.
AND SO I'M JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF WHERE I THINK THINK THAT THIS IS, UM, APPLICABLE IN UPKEEPING UPDATED, UH, FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD MANNEQUIN SABBATH.
I THINK WE KEEP ON MISSING THE ONE THING THAT I AM NOT, UH, COMFORTABLE WITH, AND THAT IS THE LEFT, UH, LEFT TURN LANE.
AND I'M GONNA GO BACK TO WHEN WE WERE DECIDING TUCKAHOE BRIDGE ON THE MANNEQUIN ROADSIDE, IT WAS PRIOR TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AMENDMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, UPDATE.
AND THEY KEPT ON SAYING THAT VDOT SAYS WE DON'T HAVE TO DO A RIGHT TO, UH, TURN LANE ON MANNEQUIN ROAD.
I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE A, THEY AGREED TO PUT A WHITE RIGHT TURN LANE AS PART OF THEIR PROFFERS FOR IT.
UM, MANNEQUIN ROAD IS JUST, I MEAN, IT, IT'S JUST UNBELIEVABLE THAT YOU WOULD SAY, WELL, BECAUSE IT HAS, UH, SAY THE PROPERTY RIGHT NEXT TO IT, UH, DOES DEVELOP 123 ACRES ARE NOW UP FOR GRABS BECAUSE IT'S FOR SALE RIGHT NOW.
IF THEY GO THROUGH THE REZONING PROCESS, THEY COULD POSSIBLY HAVE 21, 22, UM, UH, HOW HOMES ON THAT ROAD.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO PUT A, YOU KNOW, IF THEY KEEP IT UNDER 20, THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A RIGHT TURN LANE.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, OR A LEFT TURN LANE.
UM, BUT I PLEASE TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, FOR THE DEVELOPERS, UM, IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF AN EXPENSE I, I IMAGINE, BUT FOR US IT'S OUR, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE LIVING THERE AND WE NEED TO BE SAFE TO GET, UM, TO HAVE THAT.
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WE'RE DOING THESE COUNTYWIDE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS THAT AFFECTS THE WHOLE COUNTY.AND I JUST DON'T, I DON'T SEE IT.
UM, UH, PLEASE, UH, JUST CHANGE THE LEFT TURN LANE FOR SAFETY REASONS.
I LIVE AT 1307 OLD LOGAN ROAD MANNEQUIN SABOT.
I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR OR AGAINST THE ORDINANCE.
WHAT I AM SPEAKING IS FOR GRANDFATHERING.
WE'VE SPENT THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR DEVELOPING A NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT PASSED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS LAST YEAR, FOUR TO ONE.
WE HAVE SUBMITTED OUR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, AND FOR THE ORDINANCES TO BE AFFECTING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW WOULD NOT JUST LEAD TO EXPENSE AS A TAXPAYER.
IT WOULD LEAD TO COUNTY INEFFICIENCY FROM STAFF OR HAVING TO RE-REVIEW RECOM ON A DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED.
THAT HAS BEEN, UM, THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN IN THEIR COMMENTS AND SUBMITTED.
UM, ALSO, THE NEW ORDINANCES WOULD LEAD TO SEVERE AND LARGER IMPERVIOUS SURFACES IN OUR PROPOSED NEIGHBORHOOD.
ONE OF THE KEY, UM, COMPLAINTS FROM THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD WAS THAT THERE WAS A POND.
AND WE AGREED, AND AS PART OF ANY ORDINANCE, NEW OR OLD, WE HAVE TO RETAIN STORM WATER.
WE ARE IN THE, IN THE PLAN PROVIDED.
WE ARE TRYING TO EXCEED STATE STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS.
BY ADDING IMPERVIOUS SURFACES.
WE WILL BE IMPACTING OUR NEIGHBORS TO OUR LOWER END MORE FOR REALLY FOR NO REASON.
AND SINCE WE HAVE SUBMITTED THIS PLAN, WE HAVE PUT FORTH OUR ENGINEERING AND OUR DEVELOPMENT.
I WOULD ASK FOR, UM, SOME TYPE OF GRANDFATHERING.
ANY ADDITIONAL CITIZENS? OKAY.
IF NOT, I WILL, UH, CLOSE THE HEARINGS.
DOES STAFF WISH TO ADDRESS ANY OF THE COMMENTS THEY HEARD? UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GO BACK AND FORTH.
IT'S APPRECIATE HEARING PEOPLE'S COMMENTS.
UM, THE INTENT OF THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT TO REALLY DEGRADE AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
AND ACTUALLY WE'RE ASKING FOR SOME IMPROVEMENTS, UM, TO THE STANDARDS THAT REALLY, UM, COMES DOWN TO THE BOTTOM LINE, IMPROVES PUBLIC SAFETY.
ALSO, UM, PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR LESS MAINTENANCE ON IMPACTS ON, UM, TAX PAYERS.
UM, WE DO RECOGNIZE THE CONCERNS REGARDING THE LEFT TURN LANE.
I KNOW THAT THAT SCENARIO OF CONCERN, UM, FOR SEVERAL PEOPLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, MS. MCGEE, UM, DID ADDRESS, UM, THAT'S THE WAY ORDINANCES, UH, GO FORWARD.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO ADDRESS THE, THE SPECIFICALLY THE LAST CIRCUMSTANCE OR, OR COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, UM, FOR THAT.
BUT I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE, THE GA THE ZONING PROCESS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU NEED AN EXCEPTION FOR SOMETHING, YOU COME BACK AND ASK FOR IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S THE, THE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THEY BENEFIT, UM, A DEVELOPMENT.
SOMETIMES THEY HARM A DEVELOPMENT, UM, FROM PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE.
BUT ULTIMATELY YOU'RE TRYING TO MEET THE GOALS OF, TO MEET PUBLIC SAFETY, HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE, AND MAKING SURE THAT GOLIN MEETS, THERE'S A STANDARD IN GOLIN THAT IS EXPECTED AND A GOOD, AND A, A, UM, STANDARD DEVELOPMENT HERE THAT IS COST EFFECTIVE LONG TERM, UM, FOR THE COUNTY AND TAXPAYERS AS WELL.
UM, YOU GOT A SPECIFIC QUESTION FOR ME? YEAH.
SO MR. GAS, REGARDING MR. GO'S CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY, UM, WITH THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY UP THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE, WE'RE CHANGING THE GAME.
HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MANAGE THAT? SO AT THIS POINT, UH, I WILL SAY THAT APPLICATION IS NOT AT PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
WHAT WE LOOK AT IS WHERE YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS HAS ALWAYS BEEN SORT OF A PRACTICE FOR, FOR A LOCALITY.
IF THEY'RE AT THEIR THIRD OR FOURTH REVIEW, UM, THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT TYPE OF, UM, INVESTMENT.
WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S AT THE, IT'S AT ITS STANDARD.
WE START LOOKING AT, IT'S LIKE IT'S NOT FAIR TO BACK UP AND SYSTEM AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU COMMONLY DO IN CUSTOMER SERVICE AND AND PROCESS TO DO THAT.
WHAT YOU LOOK AT IS, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S, YOU'VE REACHED A CERTAIN STAGE AND THAT GOES TO SORT OF, YOU'VE DONE A SIGNIFICANT
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TYPE OF, UM, INVESTMENT AND THEY TYPE OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU TRY TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, THE CODE SAYS IT'S A NEW STANDARD, NEW ORDINANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT Y'ALL WOULD SAY TO ME IF SOMEBODY'S RIGHT AT THE LAST STAGE OF, OF DESIGN AND, AND I'M TRYING TO, THEY'RE, THEY'RE READY TO RECORD AND FINAL PLAT AND YOU'RE HAVING THIS HEARING TODAY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT STORY THAN I THINK THE EXPECTATIONS WOULD BE GOING FORWARD.
IF YOU'RE GENERALLY IN THE STARTING OR BEGINNING OF YOUR PROCESS, AND THIS IS WHAT THE ORDINANCE SAYS, OR IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE AT A, A, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS, PAY ATTENTION, TRY TO GET THOSE THINGS DONE UNDER OUR ORDINANCE TO TRY TO GET THOSE THERE.
I WAS SAYING MY EXPERIENCE IN THE PAST, YOU TRY TO MAKE SURE THINGS ARE DONE.
YOU ALSO TRY TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE PROCESSES THAT ARE CHANGING WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS TO, TO MAKE PEOPLE ALERT OF THAT.
SO RAY, DO, UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
UH, WE CAN'T REVIEW PLANS THAT DON'T MEET THE ZONING STANDARDS OF THE ZONING CASE.
AND CAN WE GRANDFATHER HIM? CAN GRANDFATHER, OKAY.
UH, I HAVE A DIFFERENT ANSWER TO THAT.
UM, THE, THE LAW, UH, UH, MY ANSWER EARLIER IS ABOUT WHAT, HOW THE LAW APPLIES AS OR AND ORDINANCE CHANGE.
UM, SHOULD IT BE THE FORD'S DESIRE TO GRANDFATHER THIS FOR APPLICATIONS, UM, FOR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN FILED? THEN YOU WOULD DO THAT IN THE EFFECTIVE PROVISION OF THE ORDINANCE.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, TODAY IT SAYS IN FRONT OF YOU, THIS ORDINANCE IS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, BUT YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY THAT THE ORDINANCE IS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, EXCEPT THAT THE PROPERTIES FOR WHICH A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT HAVE BEEN FILED WITH THE COUNTY PRIOR TO MARCH 4TH, 2024, AND NOT YET APPROVED.
THOSE CAN BE GRANDFATHERED FROM THESE AMENDMENTS.
YOU CAN DRAW THAT LINE IN THE SAND TO HAVE IT NOT APPLY FOR EXISTING PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.
AND THAT, THAT'S, I MEANT, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET.
YOU WOULD'VE TO DO A DATE, IT WASN'T SOMETHING YOU NEED TO SAY PRIOR TO YOU, TARA, COULD WE SET AN EFFECTIVE DATE? LIKE SAY, I DON'T KNOW, JULY 1ST, OR YY YOU COULD, AND, UM, WHAT YOU WOULD WANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT IF YOU SET, SAY THIS ORDINANCE INSTEAD IF YOU JUST SAID IS EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2024, THE UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE, IF THAT'S ALL THAT'S SAID IS THAT YOU BETTER BE APPROVED BEFORE JULY 1ST, 2024.
THAT'S WHY I, I DID MINE WITH A FILING DATE.
BECAUSE THE LAW WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE NOT APPROVED, EVEN IF IT'S THE DAY BEFORE YOU'D GET APPROVED, THE LAW THAT, YOU KNOW, THING OUT HERE THAT EXISTS WOULD SAY, GO BACK TO THE STARTING GATE IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT APPLIED WITH RESPECT TO FILING AND, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE MARCH 4TH.
YOU COULD SAY IT'S EFFECTIVE FOR APPLICATIONS FILED, YOU KNOW, UH, AFTER JULY ONE TYPE OF THING.
SO YES, YOU HAVE SOME, UH, UH, YOU HAVE AUTHORITY TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE CHANGES.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT LIKE HITTING A LIGHT SWITCH IS IT'S IMMEDIATE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, IT, IT WOULD MAKE SOME SENSE TO HAVE A PHASING IN, OF SOME SORT OF A ACCLIMATION PERIOD.
PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO ARE IN PROCESS.
I, AND I WOULD SAY THAT AS WE MENTIONED, YOU TRY TO DO THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY AS WE COMFORTABLY AS WE COULD.
UM, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, SHOULD THE BOARD WISH THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT MS. MCGEE SAYS IS SORT OF ADDRESS TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THE PROCESS THAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN REVIEWING, UM, AND THINGS, UM, THAT SORT OF HELPS US KEEP, KEEP WHAT WE'RE MOVING.
AND OUR INTENT IS NOT REALLY TO STOP PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY IN THAT, THAT STAGE OF THE PROCESS.
IT ALSO SORT OF GIVES ME A BETTER COMFORT LEVEL TO SAY, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE TO START RE-REVIEWING ALL THESE PLANS FROM SCRATCH FOR THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF, I, I, I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO.
I THINK IT DOES HELP, UM, CLEAR UP THAT CONFUSION.
AND I'M GONNA NEED MS. MCGEE'S HELP ON THIS.
'CAUSE SHE CAME UP WITH LANGUAGE.
I'M HERE TO HELP
UM, UH, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ZERO A 20 23 0 0 0 0 3 RELATING TO ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND ROAD STANDARDS WITH THIS AMENDMENT.
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UH, 15 3 53 IS AMENDED AS FOLLOWS.B ONE, ADD THE WORDS LEFT AND BEFORE RIGHT TURN LANES B TWO, REMOVE THIS SUBPARAGRAPH ENTIRELY, AND B THREE AND FOUR RENUMBER THESE SUB PARAGRAPHS TO REFLECT REMOVAL OF SUBPARAGRAPH TWO.
AND THE WORDING THAT MS, THE WORDING I MENTIONED EARLIER IS IN SUBPARAGRAPH TWO.
SO SINCE YOU JUST REMOVED IT, YOU DON'T NEED TO ADD THAT.
WELL, I, I TOLD YOU I WOULD NEED HER HELP.
UH, SO NOW I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THE EXEMPTION FOR FILINGS THAT HAVE OCCURRED BEFORE TODAY.
AND THAT LANGUAGE WOULD BE THAT THE ORDINANCE IS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, EXCEPT THAT PROPERTIES FOR WHICH A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN FILED WITH THE COUNTY PRIOR TO MARCH 4TH, 2024 AND NOT YET APPROVED ARE HEREBY GRANDFATHERED FROM THESE AMENDMENTS.
IS WHAT CAME, IS PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT THE RIGHT TIME? UH, IS THERE ANOTHER, ANOTHER STAGE? IS IT APPLICATION? UM, I WOULD, IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
UH, BUT STAFF, IF YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT ANSWER, YOU'RE MORE PROCESS.
NO, I, I, I THINK PLAN DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE ACTUALLY START SEEING THE ROAD DESIGNS AND, AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FINAL PLATT'S A LITTLE TOO LATE IN THE GAME BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE REVIEWING THINGS FOR THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY OTHER SORT OF CHECKPOINT THAT WE HAVE WOULD BE FOR A LARGEST SUBDIVISION WHEN YOU HAVE A TENTATIVE PLAT.
UM, BUT I THINK, AND AS YOU KNOW, TENTATIVE PLAT APPROVAL PROVIDES ITS OWN SIGNIFICANT AFFIRMATIVE GOVERNMENT ACT.
WHICH MEANS THIS WOULD NOT, IT'S ALREADY SORT OF ESTABLISHED THROUGH THAT TENTATIVE PLA PROCESS.
SO QUESTION THEN, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THOSE PENDING
SO WHEN MR. GOOD WAS UP HERE, WOULD, WOULD HE NOW BE COVERED BY THIS? BECAUSE HE'S ALREADY BEEN GRANTED A WAIVER BY THE BOARD.
IS HE COVERED OR NOT? UH, THERE'S NO WAIVER GRANTED FOR LEFT TURN LANES FOR THE CASE FOR WHICH HE'S REFERRING.
HAS HE FILED THIS APPLICATION FOR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT? NO.
MS. MCGEE, IF, IF I MAY, UH, YOU ADDED A WORD THERE THAT, UM, PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT'S FILED BEFORE TODAY WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THIS AMENDMENT.
I, I'M, I'M HIGHLY INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE THAT THE LEFT HAND TURN LANE AMENDMENT APPLIES.
THAT THAT DOES, UM, THAT, THAT DOES NOT, UH, IS NOT ENCOMPASSED WITHIN WHAT THE LANGUAGE I WROTE BECAUSE SO YOU'RE CORRECT.
I'M SORRY, BECAUSE I WAS DOING TWO DIFFERENT TIMES.
LET ME LISTEN TO MS. MCGEE, PLEASE.
YOU CAPTURED THAT BECAUSE I WAS WORKING ON TWO DIFFERENT THOUGHTS OF AMENDMENTS THAT THE LANGUAGE WITH RESPECT TO EXEMPTING IN PLANS OF DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE BEEN FILED AS I, AS I STATED, IT WOULD EXEMPT THE LEFT HAND TURN LANE.
IT WOULD GO BACK TO TODAY'S LANGUAGE IN THE LEFT HAND TURN.
WHICH MEANS TODAY YOU HAVE TO BUILD IT UNLESS YOU'VE GOT THAT WAIVER AT ZONING.
SO, BECAUSE TODAY'S ORDINANCE ALREADY CONTAINS A REQUIREMENT FOR RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANES, WHEN YOU EXEMPT THEM FROM THE CHANGES, IT GOES BACK TO WHAT EXISTS TODAY.
SO LEFT HAND TURN LANES FOR ALL MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS WOULD BE REQUIRED.
I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT I WAS TOLD, AND I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I GO BACK TO MS. MCGEE'S COMMENT.
IS THERE A SENSE OF URGENCY TO DO THIS IMMEDIATELY? I MEAN, COULD WE REASONABLY CONSIDER THIS TAKING EFFECT JULY 1ST, 2024? I, I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF AND WORK WITH AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY WAS REALLY INTENDED TO ADDRESS SOME SPECIFIC PROBLEMS. MY CONCERN WOULD BE, I GUESS, PROFESSIONALLY IS THAT YOU GET A RUSH OF APPLICATIONS OR, OR TYPES OF THINGS PURPOSELY TO AVOID THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED, AT LEAST BY THE PREVIOUS BOARD AND THE FIRE SAFETY, UM, AND, AND, AND STAFF AS WELL IS IMPORTANT TO GO FORWARD TO DEVELOPMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I I I DON'T DISAGREE WITH THE PROVISION OF SORT OF, PEOPLE CATCH WHERE WE ARE NOW.
UM, FOR THAT, I GUESS THE CONCERN IS, I, I DON'T WANT TO SORT OF, UH, CREATE, UH, LEAVE US, LEAVE US VULNERABLE THAT WE'RE GETTING LESS THAN WHAT OUR EXPECTATIONS WOULD BE UNDER THIS NEW PROPOSAL.
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A LOT OF THINGS COULD COME FORWARD.UM, A LOT OF REDS, MR. CHAIR, CAN I TRY TO STEER US A LITTLE PROCEDURALLY? MM-HMM.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE HAS BEEN SECONDED.
SO IF WE DON'T RECEIVE A SECOND, THAT MOTION DIES AND YOU WOULD, I IMAGINE, ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION? CORRECT.
SAYING NONE THAT MR. CHAIR, MY, SO, I, I, WHILE I APPRECIATE THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT STAFF HAS PUT INTO THIS, I AM, I AM LOW TO, UM, CHANGE THE GAME MIDSTREAM ON FOLKS, UH, WITHOUT CONFIDENCE THAT WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE GAME MIDSTREAM ON FOLKS.
SO I WOULD MOVE THAT WE DEFER THIS, UH, TO A DATE THAT WE CAN DETERMINE IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE CURRENT, UM, IMPLICATIONS FOR THOSE APPLICATIONS IN PROCESS AND TO MR. CASH.
THERE'S A PRAGMATIC WAY IF PEOPLE START RUSHING, THEY GET THIS IN THAT I'M CONCERNED IT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO IF PEOPLE SAY, WE NEED TO GET THIS IN BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE RIGHT THING, THEN I, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE, THAT DATA POINT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO ME.
SO MY MOTION IS TO DEFER THIS TO WHAT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TILL OUR APRIL 16TH? YEAH, WE'D BE AT THE APRIL 16.
WE'D BE AT THE FIRST HEARING APRIL.
APRIL 16 IS ZONING, RIGHT? PUBLIC HEARING APRIL TWO OR FIVE IS THE BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING.
SO MOVE TO, WE, UH, DEFER TO OUR, THE MAY BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETING.
ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION FOR, I JUST, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WELL, UM, AGAIN, WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS WE ONLY HAVE A FEW, I GUESS, ZONING CASES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVED IN RECENT YEARS FOR RESIDENTIAL.
UM, A FEW, MOST OF THOSE HAVE ALREADY, THEY PRETTY USUALLY COME BACK, UM, PRETTY QUICK.
UM, FOR THOSE, THERE ARE, WHAT YOU WOULD THINK IS THE BUYRIGHT OR SOME OF THE OLDER APPROVED SUBDIVISIONS THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE A ROCKETS RIDGE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THOSE OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS OUT THERE THAT, THAT HAVE KIND OF NEVER DEVELOPED.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S OUT THERE.
AND, UM, Y YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, STAFF IS, STAFF IS JUST TRYING TO ADDRESS WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR DIRECTION, FROM THE BOARD FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND STUFF.
IT'S NOT TO PENALIZE OR ANYBODY OR HEARD ANYBODY AND, AND, AND APPRECIATE THAT, THAT WE WON'T, WE DON'T WANNA, AND I'M SORRY, I PHRASED IT THAT WAY, THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO, TRYING TO CLOSE THE DOOR ON PEOPLE.
AND THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT OUR INTENT IS TO DO.
AND SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S FLEXIBLE AND FAIR FOR PEOPLE.
AND, AND, UM, IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS IN THIS THAT YOU KNOW, YOU'D LIKE STAFF TO DEVELOP THROUGH THIS, PLEASE, PLEASE SHARE THAT WITH, SO WE CAN COME BACK WITH SOMETHING ACCEPTABLE.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR, AND THIS IS FOR DEFERRAL TO, TO MAY, JUST TO CLARIFY.
UM, SEEING NO ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD, UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
UH, WITH THAT WE'LL BE MOVING TO ADJOURN UNTIL A MONDAY, MARCH 18TH WORK SESSION AT 9:00 AM BETWEEN THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SCHOOL BOARD, FOLLOWED BY A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WORK SESSION ON THE CIP AT 12 NOON.
UM, OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING OF THE BOARD WILL BE TUESDAY, APRIL 6TH AT A TIME TO BE DETERMINED.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.