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LET'S, UH, CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.UH, FIRST I'D LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT MR. S IS ON THE PHONE.
IS THAT CORRECT? MR. S YOU TELL US WHERE YOU ARE, THAT YOU'RE HERE.
UM, ON I 95 IN SOUTH CAROLINA ON THE WAY BACK TO
ARE YOU? SO FIRST ITEM, UH, WOULD BE THE NEW BUSINESS,
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UH, PRESENTATION DISCUSSION OF RELATED TO COUNTY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT[1. Presentation and Discussion Relating to County's 2025-2049 Capital Improvement Plan and Transportation Priorities]
PLAN AND TRANSPORTATION PRIORITIES.ALRIGHT, MR. GOVERNOR, TAKE IT OVER AND RUN.
UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY IS THE COUNTY'S, UH, CIP UH, PLAN.
UH, WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS, OF COURSE, WE HAVE A 25 YEAR CIP.
YOU HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF YOU ON THE BIG SHEET.
25 YEARS OBVIOUSLY IS A LONG RANGE PLANNING EFFORT.
JUST TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THINGS THAT, THAT WE HAVE REASONABLY WOULD HAPPEN IN YEAR 10, 15, 20 25.
SO ON THE ONE WE MOST FOCUS ON IS THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, THE, OUR NEXT FEW YEARS.
AND, UH, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT WE HAVE LOOKED AT SEVERAL THINGS.
WE HAVE, UH, DONE ANALYSIS OF FIRST OF ALL WHAT OUR EXPECTED REVENUES ARE GONNA BE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AS WELL AS WHAT OUR EXPECTED EXPENSES IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AVAILABLE AS A REMINDER TO THE BOARD.
OUR CIP IS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE BOND PROJECTS, IS BASICALLY PAID FOR OUT OF OPERATING FUNDS, UH, GENERALLY OPERATING FUNDS OR IN EXCESS OF WHAT WE NEED OR, OR FUNDS IN, IN ACCESSIBLE.
WE NEED TO OPERATE THE COUNTY.
AND SO WE PAY CASH FOR OUR CIP THIS FOR YOU TODAY.
UM, HAS, UH, GONE TO THE POINT OF, OF DETERMINING WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY PAY FOR IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FROM THAT AS A MODEL AND GIVING YOU A PLAN THAT IS BALANCED.
THEREFORE, WHAT WE'LL BE GOING OVER TODAY FOR THE FIVE YEAR PLAN IS A BALANCED CIP WHERE WE KNOW WHERE THE REVENUES COME FROM, ASSUMING THAT THAT, THAT THE CONDITIONS OF KNOWN EXPENSE GROWTH, UH, REVENUE GROWTH, UH, IMPACTS TO OUR BUDGET, UM, HAPPEN, UM, AS, AS WE, UH, ARE LOOKING TO DO IT.
SO HERE, SO AGAIN, AS I SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, UM, BIG COST THERE, UH, YOU'LL SEE FOR US ARE THE MONEY THAT'S GONNA BE GOING INTO THE COURTHOUSE.
AND, UH, OF COURSE THE SCHOOLS FOR THE C CTT PROGRAM.
UM, AND LOOKING AT ALL THIS, WE KEEP IN FRONT OF US THE COUNTY'S PRIORITIES FOR, FOR BUDGETING.
SO OUR, OUR BORROWING OUR DEBT CAPACITY IS WELL WITHIN THE LIMIT THAT THE BOARD SETS AND WE ALSO, UM, MAINTAIN OUR GENERAL FUND RESERVE GROWTH AS IS SET BY THE, UH, UH, CAMPUS FINANCIAL POLICIES AS WELL.
SO, WITH THAT, SO THE CURRENT BUDGET IN FRONT OF YOU FOR THIS YEAR, UH, THE CIPC 7.8 MILLION, UH, THE BULK OF THAT IS GOING TO, YOU KNOW, FIRE RESCUE AND, AND, UM, THE COURTS AND THAT MONEY FOR THE COURTS ARE SETTING ASIDE SOME FUNDING, UH, TO GO TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION COURTHOUSE ITSELF.
UH, EDUCATION, AGAIN, THE 1.24 FOR 1.239 MILLION THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER, THAT IS SET ASIDE FOR THEM AS WELL.
UH, AND AGAIN, WITHIN THAT FOR THE FIVE YEAR PLAN, YOU SEE WHERE THAT BREAKS DOWN AS WELL.
SCHOOLS AND THE COURTS ARE PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, ALMOST 70% OF THE, UH, TOW FIVE YEAR PLAN IN FRONT OF US.
FIRE RESCUE TRUCKS AND AMBULANCES, ANOTHER 20%.
SO THOSE THREE AREAS COMPRISE PRETTY MUCH OUR ENTIRE FIVE YEAR CIP.
NOW, THE TRANSFER EVERY YEAR, UM, THAT WE LOOK AT IS WHAT IS TRANSFERRED INTO OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING IS, UH, WE ARE MAKING A CHANGE IN, IN WHAT WE PUT IN THE CIP, WHAT WE PUT INTO THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET.
UM, ONGOING EXPENSES LIKE PURCHASING OF NEW VEHICLES FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND REPLACING VEHICLES THAT HAPPEN EVERY YEAR.
WE'RE MOVING THAT INTO THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF THE BUDGETS.
BOTTOM LINE DOESN'T CHANGE, UH, THE MONEY COMING IN DOESN'T CHANGE.
SO AWARE OF THE BUDGET IT SHOWS UP IS IS WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT WE'RE MOVING RECURRING CAPITAL PROJECTS INTO, SO THAT'S GOTTA BE THINGS THAT HAPPEN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS AND, AND ARE NOT REFLECTIVE OF ONE TIME BRICK AND MORTAR OR, OR LONG LIFE THINGS LIKE FIRE TRUCKS AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
SO GOING THROUGH AGAIN THIS YEAR, UH, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH UH, UM, FOR THE ASSESSOR ABOUT A $70,000 PROJECT FOR PICTOMETRY,
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WHICH IS STRONGLY, UM, UH, REQUESTED BY NOT ONLY THE ASSESSOR BUT PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL BECAUSE OF THE ABILITY IT GIVES THEM TO VISUALIZE AND, AND KNOW ALL THE PROPERTIES IN THE COUNTY IN A 3D BASIS.SO THIS UPGRADES OUR ABILITY COMPLETELY.
IT ALSO ALLOWS THE ASSESSMENT TO GET A BETTER SENSE FOR WHAT IS ON THE PROPERTIES AS WELL.
AGAIN, FIRE RESCUE, THE C 4 25 29, THAT'S THE FIRE FIVE YEAR FOR THEM.
AS WE GO THROUGH, AGAIN, THIS CURRENT HERE, UH, BOTH EXPENSES WE TALKED ABOUT.
WERE A FIRE ENGINE REPLACEMENT, UM, AMBULANCE REPLACEMENT, UM, CARDIAC RESPIRATORY UPGRADE, OUR OR REPLACEMENT TO OUR EQUIPMENT.
I DON'T NEED TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT.
UM, BUYING LAND FOR THE CROZIER FIRE STATION, THAT MONEY'S BEEN ALLOCATED FOR MANY YEARS.
WE'RE JUST GONNA LOOK TO MOVE ON IT THIS YEAR.
UH, WE DISCUSSED WITH YOU ABOUT THE CHANGES IN STATE POLICY FOR THE PHARMACY, UH, WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO START PURCHASING AND MANAGING OUR OWN DRUGS.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT FUND IS IN THERE FOR AS WELL.
AGAIN, TURNOUT GEAR AND UM, STAFF VEHICLES AS WELL.
UM, CAN I ASK SOME CLARIFYING QUESTION? SURE.
SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS, AT THIS MM-HMM,
ON TOP OF, UM, IT'S ON TOP OF, RIGHT? YEAH, IT'S ON TOP.
SO EVERYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S IN BLUE FONT HERE HAS BEEN HAD REQUESTS IN THE OUTER YEARS, BUT WE'VE MOVED THEM TO OPERATE.
THESE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE DOING AN ENGINE EVERY YEAR, THOSE ARE SO LARGE, WE'RE KEEPING IT UP.
AND THEY GOT 20 YEAR LIFESPANS VERSUS FIVE OR, OR, OR, SO A LONG LIFESPAN IS GONNA GENERALLY BE IN THE CAPITAL CIP STILL.
AND WHILE RIGHT NOW WE'RE BUYING ONE EVERY YEAR, THE GOAL WOULD BE LIKE EVERY OTHER YEAR.
YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE A ACTUAL RECURRING COST.
WHAT MORE? RIGHT? WELL AT SOME POINT IT PROBABLY WILL BE RECURRING COST AT SOME POINT.
YOU SAY IF IT'S LARGE, TELL ME IS THERE, IS THAT $5 MILLION HUNDRED, WHAT IS LARGE? WELL, IT'S MORE A MATTER OF SOMETHING THAT IS A FIXED ASSET, LIKE A BRICK AND MORTAR BUILDING OR SOMETHING THAT HAS A LONG LIFESPAN.
UM, GENERALLY THOSE ARE GONNA HAVE TO BE THE PRICE.
SO I USE THAT JUST IN THE SENSE, AND MOST OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, LIKE A FIRE TRUCK, AN AMBULANCE HAVE A LARGE COST ATTACHED TO IT.
OTHERS LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, GER STATION TWO, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY, BUT WE'RE ONLY GONNA DO THAT ONE TIME.
AND, AND SO THAT STAYS IN THE CAPITAL SIDE 'CAUSE IT'S A ONE TIME EXPENSE.
FIRE SUPPRESSION EQUIPMENT WILL BE SOMETHING WE DO ON A REGULAR BASIS TO UPGRADE.
SO IT'S A FIVE YEAR DEPRECIATION SCHEDULE.
IT'S LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS THAN IT'S, I WOULD TURN, I WOULD TURN OVER TO THE ACCOUNTANTS FOR, FOR WHAT? OUR DEPRECIATION.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GONNA WIND UP.
LIKE THE ENGINE WILL DEPRECIATE OVER A LONGER PERIOD THAN CARS.
OKAY, SO FIVE IS 50 MAGIC NUMBER.
JUST TRYING TO, FOR MOST OF OUR VEHICLES, YES.
GENERAL SERVICES WENT OVER BACKHOE FOR THE WEST CONVENIENCE CENTER.
THE ONE WE HAVE THERE IS, UH, I THINK FROM THE NINETIES AND IT, UH, THE, THE RECURRING REPAIR COSTS ALONE FOR IT FOR SUCH THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IN THE FIVE FIGURES EVERY YEAR TO KEEP IT UP AND RUNNING.
UM, AGAIN, THE COUNTY VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, UH, THOSE ARE JUST THE, UH, VEHICLES THAT, THAT WE GET.
WE GENERALLY KEEP A CAR AT LEAST 10 YEARS FROM THE COUNTY FLEET.
SO THAT'S ABOUT MAYBE YEAR TWO TO THREE CARS A YEAR THAT WE WOULD BE REPLACING THERE.
UM, THE FACILITIES LIFECYCLE, THAT'S BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S AN ANNUAL WHAT JUST, YOU KNOW, BROKEN WINDOW, GOTTA FIX THE CARPET SQUARES, HVAC GUYS GOTTA COME TO MAKE IT EVERY YEAR.
WE'RE GONNA SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY ON OUR BUILDING.
SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE THAT INTO OPERATING FROM, UH, CIP, UH, SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS TO PLACEMENT.
AGAIN, EVERY YEAR WE PUT MONEY FOR SECURITY TO THIS, TO EITHER AND UPGRADE OUR SYSTEM OR REPLACE CAMERAS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, THE MONEY IN THE LIBRARY IS FROM, UH, PROFITS.
WE HAD PROFIT MONEY JUST FOR THE LIBRARY.
SO WE WENT AHEAD AND PUT IT IN TO ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THE SMALL STUFF THAT, UH, THAT THEY ASKED FOR.
AGAIN, IT THEIR FIREFLY, IT'S A BIG EXPENSE.
UH, THAT WAS WHAT, UH, OUR MATCHING TO THE, UH, NEW GRANT CYCLE THAT WE HAVE PUT IN.
OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T GET IT THEN THAT MONEY DOESN'T GET SPENT.
UH, OTHERS ARE, ARE PRETTY MUCH JUST EITHER UPGRADING, REPLACING OR REFRESHING A, UH, A LOT OF OUR ONGOING SYSTEMS AND THE HARDWARE THAT WE HAVE, THE OPERATING SYSTEMS, THE DIGITAL MEETING AND SIGNAGE FOR THIS BUILDING THAT BASICALLY KIND OF LIKELY TO GO INTO A HOTEL OR A CONFERENCE CENTER AND, AND ALL THE ROOMS ARE DIGITALLY MANAGED.
UH, SO YOU GOT SIGNS, YOU TELL WHAT'S IN
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THAT ROOM, WHAT TIME IT'S GONNA BE IN.THAT'S JUST GETTING US ALL IN A SYSTEM LIKE THAT SO PEOPLE KNOW WHERE, WHERE TO GO, WHERE TO BE, AND AS IMPORTANTLY, WHEN TO BE OUT OF THAT ROOM BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE IS COMING IN BEHIND THEM.
THE CHRISTMAS TREE, AGAIN, USING PROFFER MONEY FOR PARKS AND REC, UH, THE COMMUNITY CHRISTMAS TREE IS, UM, EVERY YEAR THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR REPLACEMENT FOR, UH, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE FOR A TREE, BUT IF, UH, IF YOU SEE IT IN THE DAYTIME, YOU UNDERSTAND HALF THE TREE.
IT'S LIKE YOU CAN'T, THERE'S NO TREE.
SO THEY KIND OF STATION IT SO YOU DON'T SEE THAT PART OF THE TREE ANYMORE.
AGAIN, WE'RE USING PROPER FUNDS FOR THAT WHICH HAVE TO BE SPENT SOMEWHERE IN, IN PARKS, CORRECT.
SO HERE WE HAVE, UM, WHAT HAS BEEN ALLOCATED THIS YEAR, THE 1.239 MILLION.
UM, AND THEN THE MONEY THAT WAS APPROVED IN THE REFERENDUM IN 27, WE ARE ABLE TO PUT, AS WE'LL GET INTO LATER FOR 26, 28, 29, WE'RE SETTING ASIDE FOR RECURRING OPERATIONAL CIP ABOUT 500,000 A YEAR, GROW TO A MILLION A YEAR.
UM, NOT NEAR WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR TODAY, BUT SETTING ASIDE AT LEAST 500,000 A YEAR FOR THEIR, UM, OPERATIONAL CIP EVERY YEAR AFTER THIS YEAR.
SHERIFFS, AGAIN, OUR CAD ASSIST OF UPGRADE IN 26, UH, UH, WE'RE STILL ON BOARD WITH THAT.
UM, THAT'S A CRITICAL NEEDED UPGRADE TO, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, HIS OTHER VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, THAT'S AN ANNUAL BASIS, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE MOVING IT TO OPERATIONAL.
'CAUSE EVERY YEAR WE HAVE TO BUY ANYWHERE FROM SEVEN, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY ABOUT SEVEN VEHICLES A YEAR FOR HIM, UH, TO REPLACE, UH, VEHICLES THAT ARE HITTING HIGH MILEAGE ALREADY.
AND THEN AGAIN THIS YEAR THE, UH, HE REQUESTED AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM FOR THE COS.
UH, APPARENTLY OUR SYSTEM WAS VERY SUSCEPTIBLE TO BAD THINGS GETTING INTO IT, SO PUTTING IN A MORE SECURE SYSTEM FOR THAT.
SO IT'S KIND OF THE SUMMARY OF THE FIVE YEARS.
SO FROM COUNTY, UH, COUNTY REQUESTS, YOU CAN SEE WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, ON A FIVE YEAR BASIS FOR, UH, FIRE RESCUE FOR GENERAL SERVICES AND NEXT PAGE.
THIS IS ALL, SO FROM THE OPERATIONAL SIDE THERE, YOU SEE FOR IT FOR SCHOOLS AND THE SHERIFF.
SO FOUR YOUR TOTAL AND ABOUT $10.8 MILLION, UM, THAT IS FUNDED.
WE, WE KNOW THE MONEY WOULD COME FROM FOR THAT.
UM, THAT'S NOT ANYTHING THAT WE FEEL WOULD BE A PROBLEM FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND DO.
I'M THE, I'M GONNA TALK PHOTOGRAPHY.
UH, I SAW THE SAME OR SIMILAR, UH, EVERY YEAR.
IS THAT, IS THAT SOFTWARE LICENSING OR WHAT? WHY ARE WE SHOWING EQUAL VIEWS? SIX 1006 FOUR.
I I DON'T, IT'S JUST A, SO THAT ANNUAL, THE FIRST YEAR COST IS 90 SOME THOUSAND.
AND THEN THERE ARE RECURRING OPERATIONAL COSTS.
I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE FOR, BUT, UM, WE HAVE THOSE SEED LICENSES AND SAYS IT WOULD BE USED BY PUBLIC SAFETY.
MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE USING, UM, THAT SOFTWARE.
UH, 'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT.
BUT, BUT I'LL GET A BETTER BREAKDOWN FOR YOU.
AND TIM WAS LIKE, WELL, YEAH, EVERY YEAR IT'S LIKE, I WANT BE IN THAT BUSINESS.
SO MOVING TO UTILITIES, AGAIN, UTILITIES, AS YOU KNOW, IS, UM, SELF SUSTAINING.
SO ALL ITS REVENUES ARE GENERATED INTERNALLY.
UH, THIS IS A CONCURRENT REQUEST.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE GROUND STORAGE TANK FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, FOR HIM.
UM, THESE ARE THE OTHER EXPENSES HE SEES COMING IN.
UH, WE'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE MONEY WILL BE THERE, HANDLE IT.
BUT HIS FIVE UCI IS ABOUT 20 MILLION OF WHICH AGAIN, 13 MILLION OF IT IS, IS NEXT YEAR.
10 MILLION OF IT BEING THE, UH, GROUND STORAGE TANK AND PUMP STATION THERE IN RIDGEFIELD.
MR. CARPENTER, WHAT'S THE SANDY HOOK? SANDY MADE LOOK BACK.
UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VO YEAH, GOOD QUESTION.
SO THAT'S FOR A 12 INCH WATER LINE, UH, TO GO ALONG WITH THE FAIRGROUND ROAD EXTENSION PROJECT, UH, WHATEVER VDOT NEEDS THAT MONEY.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF AUSTIN WANTS TO SPEAK TO THE TIMING OF THAT, BUT ESSENTIALLY VDOT WILL DESIGN AND, AND BUILD THAT WATERLINE FOR US AND WE'LL SUPPLY 'EM, UH, IF THE CASH BURN COST TO THAT LINE.
UH, THE UTILITIES IS SELF-FUNDING.
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IS GONNA COME FROM USER FEES.IT WOULD COME EITHER FROM USER FEES OR IF IT'S A-T-C-S-D PROJECT WOULD COME OUT OF TCSD FUNDS.
I'LL, I'LL CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.
SO THE, THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, THOSE WOULD BE FUNDED FROM OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT FUND, UM, WHICH COMES FROM A CONNECTION FEE FROM DEVELOPMENT.
SO, SO EVERY, YOU KNOW, CONNECTION TO THE SYSTEM, HOMEOWNER, COMMERCIAL, WHATEVER, PAYS A CONNECTION FEE.
ALSO, JUST A CLARIFICATION, MR.
AND THEN THE, YOU HAVE THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF IT, WHICH HAS, ITS THE CIP SIDE OF IT, WHICH HAS THE ELEMENTS WHICH YOU'VE JUST GONE THROUGH.
AND AGAIN, IT'S ALL FUNDED OUT OF A WHOLE BUDGET, RIGHT? IT'S ALL FUNDED OUT OF OPERATIONAL FUNDS.
I MEAN, TO BE HONEST, WE DON'T HAVE A SEPARATE DEDICATED SOURCE OF REVENUE FOR CAPITAL.
SO EVERYTHING WE SEE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF UTILITIES COMES FROM TAXPAYERS PAYING TAXES AND FEES TO THE COUNTY, AND THEN WHATEVER'S LEFT OVER, CARRIED FORWARD TO THE NEXT YEAR AS PART OF OUR, OUR TRANSFER INTO THE CF FUND.
SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT FOR A SECOND? ABSOLUTELY.
BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SORT OF A SHIFT IN PHILOSOPHY A LITTLE BIT.
WE MOVE SOME STUFF MORE TO THE OPERATING BUDGET, BUT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, SO YOU START OFF YOUR PRESENTATION SAYING, THESE ARE EXCESS FUNDS THAT MANAGE CAP.
WE DON'T ACTUALLY EARMARKING SCORES.
SO HOW DO WE GIVE YOU, IN OUR PREVIOUS MEETING TODAY, WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS GOING WRONG AND SCHOOLS SHUTTING DOWN POTENTIALLY.
AND HOW DO WE AVOID THAT? SO WHAT IT SEEMS TO ME, WE, WE ASSUME A LOT OF RISK IN BEING ABLE TO GET THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL DONE IF OUR REVENUES DON'T COME IN AS PROJECTED.
SO HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE MANAGE THAT? SURE.
WELL, THE FIRST ANSWER TO THAT IS WE ARE BLESSED WITH A VERY, VERY STRONG, UM, RESERVE FUND.
AND OUR CAPITAL, OUR RESERVES ARE WELL OVER WHAT WE NEED TO OPERATE THE COUNTY.
PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE OUR, OUR PHILOSOPHY IN MAINTAINING THE, UH, TRIPLE, TRIPLE, UM, LENDS TO HAVING ENOUGH IN RESERVES TO HANDLE UNEXPECTED THINGS WITHOUT IT AFFECTING OUR ABILITY TO OPERATE OR, OR DO OTHER THINGS THAT ARE CRITICAL.
SO MAINTAINING THAT STRONG FUND BALANCE IS WHAT ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO IF WE HAVE, I MEAN, AGAIN, WHAT'S OUR, OUR, OUR FUND BALANCE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN THE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TOTAL FUND BALANCE.
AND OUR UNALLOCATED UNASSIGNED IS, IS, IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANTLY STRONG.
SO WE COULD FIX OR HANDLE ANYTHING THAT UNANTICIPATED CAME OUR WAY WITHIN REASON.
AND, AND ANOTHER THING IS IN, UNLESS IT'S AN OPERATIONAL REPAIR WHERE IT'S DAY TO DAY, LET'S SAY A TORNADO CAME AND TOOK OUTTA SCHOOL, WE HAVE INSURANCE.
SO THE INSURANCE IS GONNA PICK UP A BIG PART OF THAT TOO.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO NECESSARILY SPEND $50 MILLION REPLACED AT SCHOOL.
WE'LL HAVE TO PAY TO SPEND SOMETHING.
BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE INSURANCE ON ALL OUR BUILDINGS, ON OUR VEHICLES.
SO WHENEVER A VEHICLE IS WRECKED, THERE'S AN INSURANCE SETTLEMENT THAT COMES TO US AND THEN WE REPLACE THE VEHICLE IF IT'S NOT DRIVABLE AFTER THAT.
AND THAT OFFSET'S PART OF THE COST TO US.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF THE EQUATION IS WE HAVE INSURANCE TO COVER THOSE UNEXPECTED UNANTICIPATED NEEDS.
AND THEN SO YOU WOULD YOU, WE COULD SAY THEN THAT MAKING THIS SHIFT TO MOVE MORE RECURRING EXPENSES, THAT MAY ARGUABLY BE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO AN OPERATIONAL, REDUCES OUR EXPOSURE IF REVENUES DON'T COME IN BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY MORE ACCOUNTED FOR IN AN OPERATIONAL THAT'S CORRECT.
'CAUSE WE FUND OPERATIONAL VERSION, WE MAKE SURE THE COUNTY CAN RUN.
AND THEN WE SEE ALSO, AGAIN, IT, IT PUTS INTO THE CIP PROJECTS THAT ARE MORE SIMILAR.
THERE, THERE'S NOT MUCH IN COMMON WITH, WITH A FIRETRUCK AND REPLACING A WINDOW.
UH, SO, SO THE MORE SIMILAR PROJECTS, IT'S ALSO EASIER WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CIP TO HAVE PROJECTS THAT ARE OF THE NATURE THAT IS GONNA BE VERY LONG TERM.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE IDEA OF CIP, IS THAT YOUR CAPITAL? UM, AND, AND SO THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE MUCH MORE ATTUNED TO THAT KIND OF A PROJECT.
SO AS WE LOOK AT HOW WE FUND, AND PART OF THE DISCUSSION MAYBE TODAY OR, OR ONGOING, IS THAT AS WE, ONE OF OUR, OUR LIMITING FACTORS IN CIP IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED REVENUE SOURCE.
SO BY GETTING OUR CIP PROJECTS SO THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE MORE ALIGNED AND AND EQUAL TO EACH OTHER, THEN THAT MAYBE LETS US START LOOKING AT, AT OUR TRUE CIPD TO SEE, OKAY, HOW ARE WE GONNA PAY FOR THESE NOW AS WE LOOK AT 5, 10, 20 YEARS, YOU KNOW, AND, AND OUR FIVE, OUR FIVE YEAR CIP IS IN THE TENS OF MILLIONS ARE 20 FIVES IN THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO, SO, SO THAT'S MORE APPLES AND APPLES.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH, WITH HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE THESE
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PROJECTS.DO YOU THINK AT SOME POINT WE WOULD VISIT HOW WE FUND THE CIPI EXPECT US TO, WE NEED TO ABSOLUTELY.
CAN YOU SHARE WHAT THAT WOULD LIKE? WELL, IN A COUPLE WAYS, YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IS THAT WE WOULD DEDICATE ACTUAL REVENUE TO GO INTO A CIP FUND.
AND THAT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL RESERVE FUND.
UM, IT COULD EITHER BE JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA TAKE OUT OF, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST CUT WE DO OUT OF OUR REVENUE IS TO TAKE THIS MUCH AND PUT IT OVER THERE, AND THEN WE GOTTA RUN THE COUNTY WITH WHATEVER'S LEFT.
SECOND WAY IS, IS TO DEDICATE PENNIES.
SO WE'RE GONNA DEDICATE ONE PENNY, TWO PENNIES, FIVE PENNIES INTO A CIP FUND THAT GOES INTO A SEPARATE FUND WHERE IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE FOR CIP PROJECTS.
UM, THE THIRD IS WE LOOK AT DOING BOND PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE.
THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT THAT.
AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD GO INTO A DEDICATED FUND FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS ONLY ONE OR TWO THINGS THAT HAPPEN.
WE EITHER FIND THE MONEY OR WE DON'T BUILD THE PROJECTS.
AND SO THE DECISION OF BUILDING PROJECTS IS OBVIOUSLY, IN SOME CASES IT'S OPERATIONAL, OTHERS IT'S GONNA BE POLICY.
UM, HOW WE FUND THE PROJECTS THEN BECOMES THE QUESTION.
AND RIGHT NOW, AS YOU'LL SEE, WE'VE GOT A FIVE YEAR CIP FUNDED.
WE ARE COMFORTABLE IN TELLING THE BOARD THAT ABSENT ANYTHING REALLY WEIRD HAPPENING, WE CAN FUND THESE PROJECTS.
NOW, AS WE HEARD THE SCHOOLS THIS MORNING, THIS DOES NOT FUND ALL THEIR PROJECTS.
IT DOESN'T FUND ALL THE COUNTY PROJECTS, BUT WE CUT PROJECTS OUT.
STAFF GOT TOGETHER LAST WEEK AND WENT BACK THROUGH AND REMOVED PROJECTS, BACKED 'EM UP IN YEARS, WHATEVER, SO THAT WE COULD HAVE A BALANCED CIP FOR THE COUNTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO PUT ASIDE FOR THE SCHOOLS ISN'T CLOSE TO WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE HAVING, YOU KNOW, IF NOT IN, IN THE NEAR TERM AND IN THE MIDTERM IS WHERE'S THAT MONEY GONNA COME FROM? BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING MILLIONS MORE THAN, THAN STAFF FEELS.
WE WILL HAVE AVAILABLE TO US, AND EITHER THE PROJECTS DON'T GET BUILT OR, OR WE FIND THE MONEY.
AND IF WE FIND THE MONEY, THEN WE FIND IT FROM EXISTING REVENUES AND REPRIORITIZE WHERE WE'RE SPENDING OUR MONEY OR FIND NEW REVENUES.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, AND ALL THOSE ARE DOABLE.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE REALITY OF IT RIGHT NOW IS THAT STAFF HAVE BEEN OPERATING ON SOME, SOME GUIDING SENSE OF PUBLIC SAFETY WAS FIRST PRIORITY EDUCATION, SECOND PRIORITY, THEN OTHERS FALLING IN BEHIND THAT.
SO THAT, SO THIS BUDGET IS BUILT WITH, WITH A CONCEPT OF PUBLIC SAFETY WAS THE FIRST PRIORITY.
AND SO PUBLIC SAFETY WAS ADDRESSED DIFFERENTLY.
NOW, IF, IF EDUCATION BECOMES A SIMILAR PRIORITY, OKAY, NOW THEY'RE EQUAL.
SO, SO NOW WE START LOOKING AT, AT HOW WE FUND PROJECTS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BECAUSE THAT MAYBE MOVE SOME PUBLIC SAFETY DOWN AND SOME EDUCATION UP.
IF EDUCATION BECAME THE PRIORITY AND PUBLIC SAFETY'S SECONDARY, THEN THAT WOULD SHIFT.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT, WHAT, WHAT THE GUIDING PHILOSOPHY WAS IN, IN THE BUDGET.
AND SO A SHIFT IN PHILOSOPHY CAN FREE UP MONEY, THEN IT'S CURRENTLY GOING IN OTHER DIRECTIONS AS WELL.
SO SPEAKING OF MONEY, SO HERE'S HOW WE LOOK AT IT.
AGAIN, CURRENT YEAR'S BUDGET, WE, UH, SHOW, UH, THREE SOURCES OF REVENUE.
ONE, UH, USING PROFFERS FOR SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE POINTED OUT.
CIP FUND BALANCE MONEY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SET ASIDE, LIKE THE $400,000 FOR CROZIER, UH, THAT WAS SET ASIDE IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
AND THEN TRANSFER FROM THE GENERAL FUND INTO IT.
UH, THE SAME THING IN YEARS 2, 3, 4, AND FIVE, WHERE WE SHOW, UM, TRANSFER FROM OPERATINGS OF ABOUT 4 MILLION, 2.3, 2.5, ET CETERA, GOING THROUGH, SO THE CIP THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY, IF YOU LOOK UNDER OPERATING FUNDS, THAT BALANCES OF THAT IS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE THE TRANSFER FROM OPERATING FUNDS IS NEEDED TO BE IN ORDER TO FUND, UH, WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING.
UM, AND AGAIN, REMEMBER, UM, AS YOU LOOK, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CIP FUNDING AND MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONAL, UH, DOWN THERE, THERE'S 2.82 MILLION, 2.731 TOTAL 10 MILLION.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE STILL SPENDING THAT MONEY, IT'S JUST SHOWING UP IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE BUDGET FACTOR.
SO IF YOU WANNA SEE, YOU KNOW, UH, FUNDING SOURCE RIGHT THERE, AGAIN, THE, UH, DEBT, WE ALL KNOW WHERE THAT IS.
UM, THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR, UH, WILL, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR A FISCAL YEAR, 27% OF PROJECTS RIGHT NOW, THAT'S ANTICIPATED WHEN THE BOND MARKETS WOULD BE CONDUCIVE TO LET US GO, WOULD PROBABLY BE STARTING AT 26TH TO DO EVERYTHING NECESSARY TO SELL THOSE BONDS.
SO NEXT YEAR WE WOULD START THE PROCESS OF SELLING BONDS.
SO WE'D HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THE COURTHOUSE AND FOR CTE OR FOR THE SCHOOLS.
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SO THESE ARE WHERE WE SEE, UH, FUNDING COMING FROM.UM, AGAIN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BIG CHARGE, YOU CAN SEE THINGS THAT ARE NOT FUNDED IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AND, UM, WE HAVE MOVED STUFF OUT.
UM, TOTALLY REPLACED, UH, SOME, UM, AGAIN, BASED ON WHERE WE BELIEVE THE PRIORITIES TO BE.
I THIS REQUESTED VERSUS PROPOSED FOR EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT.
IF WE REALLY WANT TO GET INTO, OH, OKAY.
SO YOU SEE, UM, IF YOU TALK ABOUT REVENUE, OUR, OUR SURPLUSES HAVE DECREASED EVERY YEAR AS WE'VE GROWN OUR, OUR OPERATING BUDGET.
UM, THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY DRIVEN BY OUR FOCUS ON PUBLIC SAFETY, ADDING A NUMBER OF, OF INDIVIDUALS.
UH, PART OF IT IS DRIVEN BY A TAX CUT LAST YEAR, WHICH, UM, ALSO REMOVED THE POTENTIAL FOR, FOR SURPLUS.
UM, AND THEN AGAIN, THE FINAL POINT, UM, WE MAY HIT WITH THAT, UH, NEXT, UH, UH, BOND FUNDING, WE MAY GET TO THAT 10% TARGET THAT, UH, AND KIND OF GIVE OURSELF AS SEALED FOR ALL THAT.
THIRD BULLET, LAST THREE YEARS OF GENERAL FUND SURPLUS, WERE 8, 9, 6 3.
THREE FOUR EXPECTING 1 MILLION THIS YEAR.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE WE ARE CONTINUING AND THAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE AFTER WE GET PUT MONEY INTO THE CIP.
AND THE MAIN REASON IT'S SO LOW IS BECAUSE IF YOU REMEMBER, WE FUNDED $4 MILLION SO FAR OUT OF FUND BALANCE THAT WE HADN'T BUDGETED FOR.
SO LIKE SANDY HOOK, THE STOCK, THE STOCK TANK PERIOD, UM, SCHOOL, SOME ROAD PROJECTS, THE ROUGH OF THE SCHOOL FOR THE SCHOOL.
SO THAT ALL COMES FROM FUND BALANCE.
SO ANY SURPLUS WE WOULD'VE HAD IS GOING AWAY WITH EVERY TIME WE FIND SOMETHING OUT.
AGAIN, THAT'S ONE TIME BUY ADD, RIGHT? SO EVERYTHING BEING EQUAL, UM, AGAIN, SHOULD HAVE GO BACK UP NEXT YEAR HOPEFULLY HOPE IT WILL.
BECAUSE AGAIN, UH, I KNOW THIS IS BASIC 1 0 1, BUT YOU KNOW, REVENUES COME IN AND WE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY.
UH, WE BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY, EXPENSES GO OUT AND AGAIN, WE, WE BUDGET CONSERVATIVELY IN THE SENSE OF WE DON'T UNDER BUDGET EXPENSES.
SO, SO WE, WE UNDER BUDGET REVENUE, IF ANYTHING, THAT'S OUR GOAL, LIKE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT SAID THEY DO AND EXPENSES, WE, WE, UH, TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ACCOUNT FOR EVERY POSSIBLE EXPENSE.
SO IF WE BRING IN MORE MONEY, THEN WE BUDGET IT AND SPEND LESS MONEY.
THAT'S WHERE OUR SURPLUS COMES FROM.
BUT AGAIN, WE EAT UP EVERY BIT OF THAT WITH OUR CIP PROGRAMS. MR. GREG, UM, JUST SIR, JUST SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE, THE FIRST BULLET WILL NEED TO BORROW IN EDITION 28 MILLION.
IS THAT ON TOP OF WHAT WE ALREADY WENT TO REFERENDUM FOR? YES.
THAT'S THE REFERENDUM AUTHORIZED US.
SO REFERENDUM AUTHORIZED US FOR ABOUT 96 90 $8 MILLION TOTAL FOR THAT.
WE DID THE FIRST TRANCHE, WHICH IS BUILD THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE FIRE STATION, AND SOME OTHER PROJECTS.
THE SECOND TRAN IS, WOULD BE THE REST OF THAT AND THE CCE E BUILDING AND THE CT BUILDING.
I THINK OF IT, MR. I MEAN, UH, 2027 WE HAD A 47 MILLION.
WELL, WELL THAT'S THE COURTHOUSE AND THE CTE BUILDING.
SO THAT'S WHAT, SO THAT STILL SHOWS UP IN OUR, IN OUR OUR, UM, CIP, UM, BUT WE KNOW WHERE THAT MONEY'S COMING FROM.
SO THAT, SO THAT'S A FUNDED EXPENSE THAT'S OUT THERE.
SO
SO THE LAST BULLET FOR BORROWING AN ADDITIONAL 46 MILLION MAY PUSH DEATH RATIOS TO THE 10% TARGET AT 46 MILLION INCLUDES THE 28 1? YES.
SO WE, SO THAT IS THE MONEY NECESSARY FOR THE VERY FIRST POINT BULLET, WHICH IS CIRCUIT COURT BUILDING AND THE CPE BILL.
SO WHAT THIS SHOWS IS, AGAIN, A CIP BUDGET WHEN WE ADD OUR NEW AND WHAT OUR ANNUAL EXPENSES WILL BE.
UM, AGAIN, WE, UH, WE'RE USING THAT FROM ABOUT 2.5% INTEREST RATE AND A 5% GROWTH IN OUR GENERAL FUND.
SO THAT KIND OF SHOWS YOU WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, OUR ABILITY FOR, FOR DEBT.
SO PUSHING IN 29, 28, 29, ABOUT 7 MILLION A YEAR IN ORDER TO BE PAYING OFF THE DEBT BECAUSE AGAIN, WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION, UH, JUST FROM THIS REFEREND OF THIS, THESE BOND PROJECTS ALONE, UM, THAT ARE OUT THERE, PLUS SOME, SOME EXISTING DEBT THAT'S NOT, NOT SEWER RELATED, BUT IT'S
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STILL, UH, DEBT ON COUNTY BOOKS FROM PBCERS.JUST WANTED TO BRING UP, SO CAN YOU GO BACK THIS SLIDE? SO I'M GONNA GET THE WRONG, SO CORRECT THIS, THAT BLUE LINE IS THE EXISTING DEBT SERVICE, WHICH IS MOSTLY HOE CREEK, RIGHT? YEAH.
YEAH, NO, THAT WOULD BE DEBT, WHICH WE HAD LIKE IN 2019.
SO, SO HOE CREEK UTILITIES HAVE THEIR OWN SPREADSHEET BASED ON THEIR REVENUE GENERATION? OF COURSE.
IT, IT ALL COMES FROM THE, UM, HOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT PAY FOR THEIRS.
I'M GLAD THAT, ALRIGHT, SO AGAIN, WHEN WE LOOK OUR POLICY 12% TARGET 10%, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TARGET 10%.
RIGHT? NOW WHEN WE SAY WE'RE PUSHING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT HITTING 10%, WE'RE TALKING HITTING 7.5%.
UM, BUT COMPARED TO, UH, WHERE WE WERE A COUPLE YEARS AGO, THERE'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE PERCENT OF DEBT AS A GENERAL FUND AS OUR EXPENDITURES.
UH, WE DON'T COME CLOSE TO, UH, HITTING THE TARGET, LET ALONE THE POLICY.
UM, WITH THE CURRENT KNOWN DEBT, YOU USE ROCK, LIKE SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO GET THE MEETING 7.7% IN 2028.
IS, IS THAT A DOLLAR? NINE? 27.
SO A PERCENT OF OUR GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE.
SO IF THE GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE IS, WE'LL SAY IT'S GONNA BE 150 MILLION THAT YEAR, THEN 7%, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE 10 AND A HALF MILLION.
UM, SO WE CAN PAY IN DEBT SERVICE THAT YEAR AND THAT WOULD BE THE SEVEN, SEVEN POINT HALF PERCENT.
SO IT'S, IT'S WHATEVER THE GENERAL FUND IS.
THE, THE PERCENTAGE, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT HIGH MATH.
IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, GENERAL FUND IS THIS MUCH NO IAND, WE HAVE TARGETED THIS MUCH.
WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR ME? IT'S NOT EXTRA WORK.
PUTTING THE BROAD NUMBER OKAY.
IN THERE ALSO, I MEAN PERCENTAGES, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE ONE AND THEN YOU HAVE TWO, THEN YOU'VE GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT INCREASE.
ABSOLUTELY COMFORTABLE WITH ROCK.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SHIRT? BLUE AND ORANGE? YEAH.
WHEN WE, UH, RECEIVED AAA RATING WAS WHEN OUR LAST ONE WAS 21.
ALRIGHT, SO IF WE LOOK AT THAT, UH, WE HAVE A $2 MILLION IN DEBT AT THAT POINT.
NOW WE TALKED THAT'S DEBT SERVICE.
THAT'S NOT THE AMOUNT OF DEBT, THAT'S THE DEBT SERVICE.
BUT THAT EQUATES TO THE AMOUNT OF DEBT IS A PERCENTAGE OF THE DEBT.
BUT I GUESS YOU COULD LOOK AT A CHART THAT HAS A TOTAL DEBT.
THIS'LL THIS PURPOSE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
SO WHEN WE GET UP TO $7 MILLION OF DEBT MM-HMM.
IF WE LOOKED AT THAT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF, AND THE REASONING WHY IT SHOULDN'T IS BECAUSE WE RECEIVED THE AAA CREDIT RATING WITH, WITH ALL THE CREDIT RATING ADCS, KNOWING THAT OUR POLICY WAS TO TARGET NO MORE THAN 10.
SO THEY AWARE, THEY WERE AWARE OF THAT TARGET, THEY WERE VERY AWARE OF THE TARGET THAT WAS PART OF ALL THE, ALL THE MATERIALS PREPARED IN, IN, IN, IN US GETTING THE BONDS.
THEY ISSUED THE AAA FOR THE BOND RATING KNOWING THAT THAT, THAT, THAT WE HAD A TARGET OF 10% AND WE WEREN'T GOING TO PROBABLY GET CLOSE TO, BUT EVEN IF WE DID, UM, THAT'S A VERY LOW TARGET.
I I'M JUST WONDERING, WE SHOULD VISIT THAT JUST A, THAT'S ONE OF THE POLICY QUESTIONS THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK ON, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON IS JUST THAT, UM, IS SHOULD WE TAKE MORE ADVANTAGE OF DEBT IF WE CAN HANDLE SOME OF THESE CRITICAL NEEDS THAT WE'RE SAYING RIGHT NOW WE DON'T KNOW WHERE WE CAN FUND IF IT IS NOT GONNA AFFECT OUR AAA CREDIT RATING.
RIGHT? SAME THING, YOU KNOW, DO WE LOOK AT OUR FUND BALANCES? DO WE HAVE TOO MUCH MONEY SITTING IN THERE THAT COULD BE USED BETTER SOMEWHERE ELSE? THOSE ARE TWO VERY CRITICAL QUESTIONS THAT ARE PART OF THE DISCUSSION, WHICH WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE.
SO BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A GOOD BIT OF MONEY SITTING IN THE BANK RIGHT NOW, AND RIGHT NOW IT'S MAKING GREAT INTEREST.
SO I'M SAYING LET'S NOT SPEND IT TOMORROW WHILE WE'RE BRINGING IN GOOD INTEREST.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT, IT'S PEOPLE'S MONEY AND IT'S SITTING IN THE BANK ACCOUNT SOMEWHERE WHEN IT COULD BE IN YOUR POCKET.
WELL MAYBE INFLATION IS OR ROOFS BILLS OR, OR OR FIRE TRUCKS OR, OR BUILDINGS OR IN YOUR POCKETS OR IN THEIR POCKET.
SO WE DO PLAN ON VISITING ONE OF OUR POLICIES THAT IS REALLY RESTRICTIVE AS FAR AS HOW MUCH MONEY WHERE OUR AVAILABLE FUNDS LIKE OUR ASSIGNED AND UNASSIGNED.
WE HAVE A 60% TARGET RIGHT NOW,
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WHICH IS REALLY HIGH.60% OF YOUR ANNUAL OPERATING EXPENSES.
UM, OUR POLICY RIGHT NOW REQUIRES US TO HOLD 6% OF OUR EXPENSES IN OUR HOME BALANCE.
JUST TO EMERGENCY THAT'S HIGH, RIGHT.
IT'S MUCH HIGHER THAN MOST S CREDIT RATING.
BUT THAT HELPS NOT TO BUILD SCHOOLS, BUT NOT, WELL, IF WE WENT TO ZERO WOULD BE NOW WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING WE WE WOULD EVER GO ANYWHERE CLOSE.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE COULD BUILD A SCHOOL WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND RESERVE BASED ON WHAT THE LAST SCHOOL COST APPLE FROM.
SO AGAIN, THIS, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WE, WE'VE TAKEN ACCOUNT FOR THE 25 YEAR ALL THE, ALL THE KNOWN MAJOR EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE COMING IN FRONT OF US.
OF COURSE WE KNOW ABOUT THE CIRCUIT COURT BUILDING, UH, SANDY HOOK FIRE STATION THAT'S STILL OUT THERE.
BIRD 35, RANDOLPH 39, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MATTHEWS ROAD FIRE STATION AND THE OIL BUILDING.
SO THIS GOES INTO BASICALLY THE, AGAIN, IT'S A 25 YEAR PLAN.
UM, I WOULD, ONCE YOU GET PAST YEAR FIVE TO SEVEN BIG EXPENSES LIKE THIS START TO OR BECOMES FUNGIBLE, UM, WE SUDDENLY HAD A HUGE INFLUX OF KIDS INTO THE COUNTY.
UM, RANDOLPH ELEMENTARY MAY HAVE TO MOVE UP YEARS IN CASE BECAUSE IT WILL BE ABOUT A HUNDRED YEARS OLD AT THAT POINT.
NOW A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE GONE TO SCHOOL IN A HUNDRED YEAR OLD BUILDINGS.
BUT HAVING SAID THAT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST SO THESE THINGS CAN MOVE UP AND DOWN BASED ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
SO THE BUDGET WILL BE IN FRONT OF THE COURT OF THE PUBLIC ON APRIL 2ND, APRIL 16TH FOR THE ADOPTION.
SO WE JUST WANTED AGAIN TO KIND OF GO BACK OVER AND SHOW WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR THIS FURNITURE AND POSING AS WELL.
YOU THERE, SO THE TOTAL PROPOSED, I'M SEEING, OH, I'M SORRY.
I SITTING NOW REQUESTED IT PROPOSED BECAUSE I SEE THE 69,000 THERE FOR EAGLEVIEW TWICE AND I WAS LIKE, I CAUGHT UP.
SO PICK TIME, TREES AND AIRPLANE FLYING OVER AND YEAH.
BUT, BUT, BUT A DIFFERENT KIND OF CAMERA AND, AND THEN THE SOFTWARE THAT, THAT ALLOWS YOU KIND OF TAKE THE IMAGE, FLIP IT, ROTATE IT, LOOK AT IT FROM ALL ANGLES.
SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, YOU CAN SEE WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE REQUESTED WERE NOT PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET.
UM, BRUSH TRUCK REPLACEMENT WAS REQUESTED, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND KIND OF GOING ON DOWN IN THAT, UM, FIRE, UH, YOU KNOW, TRAINING CENTER UPGRADES WAS REQUESTED BUT NOT PUT IN.
UM, AND, AND YOU CAN SEE AS WE GO THROUGH OTHER, OTHER DEPARTMENTS AS WELL, UH, WHERE, SO, YOU KNOW, TOTAL DENTAL SERVICES REQUESTED ABOUT 2.3 WE'RE PROPOSING 1.8 FOR THE CURRENT BUDGET PARKS AND REC 180 5 PROPOSING 90 IN IT, UH, SCHOOLS.
AND THEN OF COURSE THEY REQUESTED SCHOOLS IS OFF.
THAT, THAT'S, WE SEE THEIR FUTURE REQUEST THERE, SHERIFF.
SO KIND OF SUM IT UP, UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US A FIVE YEAR CIP THAT, UH, IS FUNDED BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US.
UH, IT DOES NOT MEET ALL OUR NEEDS.
BUT FOR THE NEXT, THIS YEAR AND THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE MONEY IS HERE TO COVER THE PROJECTS THAT WE SHOW.
UM, AGAIN, TO, UH, REFLECT BACK TO THE MORNING SESSION.
UH, WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY IN THERE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS PROPOSING OR REQUESTING, UH, BUT THERE IS MONEY IN THERE, UM, TO GO TOWARDS THEIR OPERATIONAL CIP NEEDS AS WELL.
I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, BEGIN WORK WITH THE BOARD AND TWO BY TWOS AND OTHERS TO START WORKING ON SOME OF THESE, THESE ISSUES OVER WHERE WE'RE GOING IN OUR FUTURE.
I DON'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE ANYTHING IN THE NEXT SIX WEEKS, BUT FOR THE NEXT YEAR, UM, BEGIN THE DISCUSSION PROCESS OF THIS BECAUSE, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE ON A NOT SUSTAINABLE COURSE OF OUR REVENUES MEETING OUR EXPENSES BASED ON THE WAY WE'RE CURRENTLY BUDGETING.
AND SO WE'RE EITHER GOING TO BUDGET, PUTTING MORE MONEY INTO CIP AND LESS MONEY INTO OPERATIONS, CHANGING OUR PRIORITIES, UM, CUTTING BACK REQUESTS OR FINDING NEW REVENUE SOURCED.
SO I LAY THAT TO THE BOARD THAT THAT IS, UH, ONE OF MY, UH, PRIMARY GOALS FOR THIS COMING YEAR IS TO WORK WITH YOU IN COMING UP WITH HOW WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT ADDRESSING FOR, UM, THE NEAR AND MIDTERM.
AND BY THAT I MEAN FIVE TO, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
UH, THESE PROJECTS SIT IN FRONT OF US BECAUSE,
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UH, THEY'RE ALL NEEDED PROJECTS OR OUR CRITICAL PROJECTS AND I CAN'T COUNT ON US, UH, HAVING $6 MILLION SURPLUSES EVERY YEAR, ONE BAD RECESSION AND IT GOES AWAY.UH, WE CAN'T, UM, AGAIN, WE KNOW GROWTH IS SOMETHING THAT OUR CITIZENS ARE NOT LOOKING FOR US TO ENCOURAGE.
SO, UM, AT LEAST ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE AND ON THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL SIDE, WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GUARANTEE THAT WILL HAPPEN EITHER.
SO FOR ME, THESE ARE, ARE VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT I WISH, UH, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH THE BOARD AND, AND MOVE US TOWARD, UH, SOME POLICY DECISIONS THAT WILL GOVERN US IN THE FUTURE.
SO WITH THAT, THIS IS MY FIRST CIP IS THE PROTOCOL.
I COULD ASK THE SHERIFF AND THE CHIEF, BUT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE, OR IS THAT NOT HOW WE DO IT? NO, THAT'S FINE.
SO ANY, ANY OBSERVATIONS I CAN JUST TALK FOR AT LEAST ONE FROM THIS YEAR FOR OUR CARS.
AND THAT'S BEING, UH, UM, BIG OUTSPOKEN.
THAT'S GONNA BE HOPEFULLY FOR Y'ALL'S APPROVAL FOR FUNDED.
GOT THAT CARS, YOUR DEPUTIES IF YOU WANT TO RESPOND ON CALL.
SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH SIMPLE THAT OKAY.
WE'VE WORKED WITH, UH, MR. CARPENTER AND, UH, MS. CA TO, UH, COMMIT A PLAN FOR YOU.
AND UH, CERTAINLY THERE ARE THINGS THAT YOU SAW, SLIDES THAT WERE ONCE IN THERE THAT ARE NO LONGER IN THERE.
UM, BUT, UH, AT THE SAME TIME, UM, I THINK SESSION FRIDAY CAME WITH A GOOD PLAN YEAR, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL GET TO DO SO FROM THAT.
SO, BUT I THOUGHT THE BRUSH TRUCK WENT OUT A YEAR.
I MEAN IT WAS, IT WAS REQUESTED THIS YEAR, BUT THEN I SAW IT WENT OUT ONE MORE YEAR AND YOU JUST SAID THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WEREN'T IN THERE.
WELL, I THINK MR. GARMAN JUST SAID THE FIRE ARREST ATTORNEY CENTER, UH, FIND EVIDENCE IS NO LONGER APPEAR IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
YOU ALL KNOW THAT I BELIEVE AS FIRE CHIEF, THAT, UH, IN ORDER TO HAVE A DEPARTMENT THAT MEETS THE NAMES OF THE FUTURE, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TRAIN OUR FIREFIGHTERS.
AND SO THAT'S A PROJECT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S, UH, PROBABLY A, UH, WELL, WHAT WE NEED TO FUND IT.
IT'S PROBABLY A BIGGER DISCUSSION MAYBE, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE, THE CIP PROCESS.
BUT, UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS FIRE ENGINES ARE BASIC NEEDS ARE MET WITH AN AMBULANCE EVERY YEAR AND THEIR FIRE ENGINE, I WANT TELL YOU THAT, UM, WE'VE TAKEN A, A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THE FIRE ENGINES.
UH, INSTEAD OF ORDERING A CUSTOM VEHICLE, WE'RE GONNA DO OUR BEST TO BUY STOCK VEHICLE THAT IS ONCE REFERRED TO AS A DEMONSTRATOR.
IT'S BRAND NEW, NEVER HAD BEEN KNOWN, UH, BUT, BUT A VEHICLE THAT WILL BE, UM, MORE ECONOMICAL BUT ACCOMPLISH THE SAME TYPES OF THINGS.
THE WAY THAT INFLATION IS, UH, RAN RAMPANT THROUGH THE FIRE, UH, INDUSTRY, FIRE ENGINE APPARATUS INDUSTRY.
UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S HARD TO, HARD TO PAY FOR WHAT YOU BOUGHT A LADDER TRUCK FOR FIVE YEARS AGO COSTING NOW.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, TRYING TO SAVE SOME MONEY, UH, THERE AS WELL.
UH, CERTAINLY, UM, THE SANDY HOOK FIRE STATION, UH, PUMPED OUT A YEAR.
UH, WE KNOW, WE KNOW THE GOOD WORK THAT'S BEING DONE IN SANDY HOOK BY COVERING HALF THE HOURS, UH, TODAY.
AND CERTAINLY WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS GETTING, UH, A BUILDING IN THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HOUSE THE FIRE ENGINE IN AN AMBULANCE, UH, IN A LOW COST FASHION FOR THE NEXT, UH, NEXT FEW YEARS.
MRS. TARMAN, I DUNNO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT ME TO THINK.
THAT'S, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IF ANY BOARD MEMBERS HAVE QUESTIONS, THAT'S WHY STAFF'S HERE YEAH.
IS TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY I DON'T KNOW THE NUANCES OF, OF THERE AND, BUT, BUT I DO WANT ASSURE THE BOARD THAT, THAT, THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH STAFF GONE OVER, UM, IF STAFF HAD ANY, UH, CRITICAL REASONS WHY SOMETHING HAD TO BE IN THEN, THEN IT'S IN THERE AND WE FOUND SOME OTHER PLACE TO MOVE THINGS OUT.
BUT AGAIN, I'LL REITERATE THAT I FEEL IT'S MY JOB TO GIVE YOU BUDGETS THAT ARE BALANCED, THAT DON'T REQUIRE YOU TO DO ANY, ANY TAX INCREASES OR CUTTING OF OTHER PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE AND WE FEEL COMFORTABLE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS SHOWING THIS THAT WE CAN DO IT.
UH, AGAIN, I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE DON'T DO EVERYTHING IN THIS BUDGET AND THAT THE BOARD WILL, WILL PROBABLY WANT TO CHANGE SOME OF THOSE INTO THINGS YOU DON'T SEE THAT ARE ON THERE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE OUT THERE.
I, I DID HAVE A QUESTION WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK.
I SAW THAT, UH, THE AG CENTER AT
I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE'S A BIG PART OF THAT BUILDING THAT'S, THAT'S UN RENOVATED.
UHHUH LOOKS LIKE A SET FROM A HORROR MOVIE, UHHUH.
AND SO AT SOME POINT THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY A, A, UH, A BUILDING THAT IS OVERSUBSCRIBED.
THE PARKING LOTS ARE NOT 80 A COMPLIANT, THEY'RE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR BIG ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
BUT REVENUE GENERATED FROM THOSE FEES WOULD NEVER BE ENOUGH TO RENOVATE THAT BUILDING ANYMORE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? MS. BOTHERS MR. UM, NO QUESTIONS.
UH, WELL ACTUALLY THIS QUESTION, UM, IT'S MY BELIEF THAT
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WE ARE GROSSLY UNDERFUNDING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS HONESTLY HOW THE, WE COULD MOST EFFECTIVELY PAY FOR THESE NEEDED CIP THINGS.WHAT ARE PRACTICES WE CAN DO? I MEAN, I, I DO THAT AS A, I KNOW WE, WE WILL PROBABLY PLANT IT IN THE OPERATING BUDGET, BUT IN MANY WAYS THAT'S, THAT'S AS MUCH OF A LONG TERM INVESTMENT AS EVEN A BUILDING, YOU KNOW, IS, IS TRYING TO ATTRACT THE, UH, VARIOUS BUSINESSES TO INCREASE THAT TOP LINE THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ALL THESE, UH, NECESSARY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE YEARS.
WELL, AND FOR A CIP STANDPOINT, THE, THE INVESTMENTS THAT THE COUNTY COULD MAKE, UM, ARE, ARE SOMEWHAT LIMITED.
UH, BUYING LAND IS, IS PROBABLY THE MOST OBVIOUS CIP PROJECT THAT WE COULD DO.
RUNNING UTILITIES, UM, OR, OR UPGRADING UTILITIES IN AREAS TO MAKE IT MORE CONDUCIVE FOR INDUSTRY ARE THINGS WE COULD DO THAT WOULD BE CIP BASE AS WELL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THOSE AGAIN, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET OUT OF THE CIP PROGRAM AND YOU LOOK AT THE DEGREE TO WHICH, UH, WE OFFER INCENTIVES TO INDUSTRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO LOOK AT US, BASICALLY, UH, COMPETE WITH OTHERS.
SOME, A LOT OF COUNTIES AND CERTAINLY A LOT OF STATES DO THAT, UM, GTIN HAS BEEN BEEN, UH, VERY LIMITED IN THE, UM, INCENTIVES THAT WE'VE OFFERED OR BEEN WILLING TO OFFER COMPARED TO OTHERS.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO THAT, THAT COST MONEY DOLLARS COMING OUT OF OUR POCKET THAT MIGHT MAKE, UH, IT MORE CONDUCIVE FOR, FOR LARGE INDUSTRY TO COME.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. MR. CHRISTIE? CHARLIE GAVE IT, THAT WAS WHAT I WAS WONDERING.
SAID WE COULD MAKE ANY INVESTMENT.
AND AGAIN, BUYING LAND IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE KNOW, THERE'S BEEN ONE PROJECT FOR SURE THAT LOOKED, THAT, THAT WE WERE LOOKED AT INITIALLY, BUT THEY WERE LOOKING TO DEAL WITH, WITH, UM, BASICALLY MUNICIPALLY OWNED LAND, UH, VERSUS PRIVATELY OWNED LAND.
UH, BECAUSE THE PROCESS IS SIMPLER, UH, WHEN THEY DO THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, JUST THEY WOULD RATHER DEAL WITH A SINGLE OWNER.
THEY'D RATHER NOT DEAL WITH A, UM, A CORPORATE ENTITY THAT OWNS THE LAND.
SO THEY WENT TO ANOTHER COUNTY AND OAKLAND LANDED THAT OTHER COUNTY WHERE, WHERE THE COUNTY OWNED THE LAND AND THEY BOUGHT THE LAND.
I MEAN, I MEAN, THE COUNTY DIDN'T GIVE IT TO THEM, BUT SO, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT IT GREASES THE SKIDS A LITTLE BIT IF THE COUNTY OWNS THE LAND.
MAKES IT A LITTLE SIMPLER, UH, IN THAT PROCESS.
UM, SO IT'S FUNNY, I HAVE EACH OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ALREADY ASKED, SO I WON'T GO BACK.
I I'LL TRY TO PUT A BOW ON IT LIKE THIS.
YOU KNOW, I, MY OBSERVATION IS THAT WE ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY LIMITED REVENUE, UH, RESOURCES.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I THINK ABOUT CENTRAL HIGH AND I THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OUR PROGRAMS ARE MAXED OUT ALL THE TIME.
YOU KNOW, ARE THERE REVENUE GENERATORS THAT WE COULD BE CREATIVE WITH? UM, I THINK YOU ANSWERED THAT QUESTION TO ME, AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING I SAID IN A PREVIOUS SESSION, WHICH IS I, I THINK, I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE, UM, OUR RETREAT, YOU KNOW, AND I, AND I HOPE THAT WE'RE GETTING THERE SOON, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR, WITH OUR REVENUES BEING PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY SUBDIVISIONS ARE WE APPROVING? WE REALLY DO NEED TO GET TO WHAT ARE OUR TARGETS? WHAT DO WE THINK OUR GROWTH RATE NEEDS TO BE BY DISTRICT OR AREA? AND THEN HOW ARE WE MEETING THAT WITH THE COMMERCIAL AND THE, THE RESIDENTIAL? AND BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WE'RE MAKING DECISIONS IN VACUUMS MM-HMM.
SO HOW DO WE GET TO HAVE GOOD MODELS TO KNOW HERE'S HERE'S WHAT GROWTH MEETING WE WANT TO SEE, AND THEN WHERE CAN WE INVEST IN COMMERCIAL OR WHETHER IT BE IN MARKETING, WHETHER IT BE, YOU KNOW, TAX INCENTIVES, WHATEVER THOSE THINGS ARE TO GET US THERE.
BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE TAKING A PASSIVE APPROACH TO REVENUES.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA SERVE US VERY WELL MUCH FORWARD.
PLAN AND MEASURE IT ON THE, UM, TO SOMEWHAT, UH, ADDRESS THAT ON THE 29TH, THE STAFF IS HAVING AN OFFSITE, UM, UH, WORK SESSION RETREAT, WHICH WILL BE ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, UH, JANUARY 20TH RETREAT.
NOW THE STAFF IS GONNA BE ADDRESSING THEM TO RETURN BACK TO THE BOARD SO THE BOARDMAN CAN TAKE ITS NEXT STEPS IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
SO THE 29TH THIS MONTH WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THAT OFF SIDE.
I WANNA JUMP ON MR. DER'S, UH, BANDWAGON SO FAR AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I KNOW IN JANUARY 20TH MEETING IT WAS SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED IF WE HAD MORE TIER FOUR PARCELS, WHICH I DON'T
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BELIEVE IN COUNTY MEANT THE COUNTY WAS GONNA ACQUIRE THEM, BUT IS THAT A CAPITAL CIP INVESTMENT OR IS THAT MORE OPERATIONAL? BECAUSE I'D LOVE TO SEE US GET A COUPLE MORE TIER FOUR OPPORTUNITIES IDENTIFIED.I WOULD SAY THAT THE, THE WAY I WOULD LOOK AT IT WOULD BE A CAPITAL INVESTMENT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A FIXED VALUE.
ONCE YOU INVEST IN IT, WHETHER IT'S, IT'S, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE WORK, WHETHER IT'S IT'S STUDIES ON THE PROPERTY, UM, IT, IT DOESN'T GO AWAY.
SO I WOULD LOOK AT IT AS A CAPITAL INVESTMENT, THE TIER FOUR BEING A, A READY, PRETTY DARN, I THINK PRETTY READY TO, UH, OFFER SOMEONE THAT COULD MOVE QUICKLY.
I I'M NOT, THAT'S WHAT MY INTERPRETATION ME TOO.
I'M WITH YOU MR. IF I MAY THOUGH, TO THE EXTENT YOU SUGGESTED, THESE ARE TIER FOUR PROPERTIES NOT OWNED BY THE COUNTY.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY SOME LEGAL RESTRICTIONS WITH COUNTY INVESTMENT, PRIVATELY OWNED LAND.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A GREAT COUNTY ATTORNEY TO HELP US NAVIGATE THOSE DIFFICULTIES.
SO RIGHT NOW, I'M, I'M NOT AWARE OF THE COUNTY MAKING ANY CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN PRIVATELY OWNED LAND.
THAT HAS NOT BEEN A PROGRAM THE COUNTY'S BEEN INVOLVED IN IN THE PAST, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
SO I'M JUST ITERATING WHAT CHARLIE SAID, THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRAB THE PIE AS THIS, SOME FRIEND OF MINE TOLD ME RECENTLY, WE NEED A BIGGER WORD.
MAYBE WE COULD BUY THE, THOSE PARCELS AND THEN FINISH 'EM OFF, RESELL THEM, EVERYTHING'S POSSIBLE.
I, I, I DON'T KNOW LONGER DETAILED IN THAT, BUT TO, TO DATE WHAT THE COUNTY HAS DONE FOR PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN PRIVATE LANDS ARE INCENTIVE AGREEMENTS TO BUSINESSES.
UH, THAT GIVES THEM, YOU KNOW, TAX BREAKS TO A CERTAIN VALUE THAT THAT'S AGREED UPON IN ADVANCE.
AND WE'VE DONE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH NUMEROUS THINGS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS FROM WHEN THE PARTY WOULD BREWERY TO, UM, GREENSVILLE, GREENSVILLE GROWERS AND SO FORTH.
SO THERE, THERE IS A WAY THAT IT HAS HAPPENED.
IT HAS NOT BEEN, UH, IMMEDIATE UPFRONT INVESTMENT THOUGH THROUGH THE APPROPRIATE PAPERWORK AND CHANNELS.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD HAPPEN.
AND I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT, UH, IT'S NOT ONLY CHARLIE BOUGHT US BANDWAGON OR YOURS, I BELIEVE IS, AND I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, AT LEAST I KNOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS ON ALL OF OUR BANDWAGON LISTS AND, UH, CERTAINLY BE PAYING MORE ATTENTION TO THAT.
UM, BEFORE WE GO INTO CITIZEN COMMENT, I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
IT'S A VERY METICULOUS PROCESS.
ALL THE DIVISIONS HAVE WEIGHED IN ON THIS AND A LOT OF WORK HAS GONE INTO IT AND WE ARE NOT SHOOTING A WHOLE LOT OF HOLES IN WHAT YOU'VE PRODUCED HERE.
SO I, I COMMEND YOU ALL FOR A GREAT PRODUCT.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S PERFECT, BUT NOTHING IS, NOTHING IS.
UH, ANYTHING ANY FURTHER? LET'S OPEN IT UP FOR CITIZEN COMMENT AND CITIZENS WANT TO STEP FORWARD AND EXPRESS THEMSELVES AT THIS JUNCTURE.
SEEING NONE, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
NO, FOR THE BUSINESS TRANSPORTATION.
WE'RE GO ARE WE DOING TRANSPORTATION NEXT? SO WE'RE NOT GONNA TURN? YEAH, I'M SO I GOT SO CAUGHT UP IN THIS, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN DIDN'T KNOW THE PAPER TO CUT YOUR STRAIGHT UNLESS WE NEED A BREAK, I THINK.
IS IT IN THE SAME PRESENTATION? DID THEY GET MURDERED OR? I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING.
IF YOU PUT IT IN THERE, IT'S IN THE BOS POWERPOINT
AND I WILL BE SENDING Y'ALL, THE CHAIR HAS ASKED THAT THESE POWERPOINTS BE SENT TO THE FULL BOARD.
SO I WILL BE SENDING THEM TO YOU ALL ON SHAREPOINT.
YOU KNOW HOW TO DO THAT WRITE DOWN.
DO YOU HAVE ONE TO REMAIN? I CAN.
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INTO THE TRANSPORTATION PORTION OF THE NON C-I-P-C-I-P RELATED CONVERSATION, UM, SO, UH, TALKED ABOUT CURRENT EFFORTS, KIND OF THE BIG PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY RIGHT NOW.UM, WE APPLIED FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THE FALL OF 2023 IN THE SUMMER OF 2023.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW THE APPLICATIONS, UH, FELL OUT FOR FUNDING SOME SUCCESSES AND, AND WHERE WE FELL SHORT.
UH, HOW THOSE SUCCESSES AND, AND THE PROJECTS THAT MAY HAVE FALLEN SHORT, HOW THEY ALL KIND OF FOLD INTO WHAT I'VE BUILT, WHICH IS A DRAFT SIX YEAR PLAN BEING NOT AS A SIX YEAR PLAN.
SO I, I KIND OF DUBBED A GO TO SIX YEAR PLAN INTO A BIT DEEPER DIVE INTO SOME OF OUR PROJECTS TO KIND OF LOOK AT THE FUNDING THAT ARE ON THOSE, UH, FILLING IN THE GAPS OF THAT SIX YEAR PLAN.
WE NEED TO START PLANNING AHEAD.
UH, THAT'S ONE THING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AS WE'RE ALWAYS KIND OF LOOKING FORWARD.
SO KIND GIVE AN OVERVIEW FOR THE BOARD ON THE TWO YEAR FUNDING CYCLE THAT I HAVE TO WORK THROUGH TO CHASE ALL OF THESE DOLLARS THAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT.
AND THEN AS A PART OF THAT FUNDING CYCLE, WHAT DOES THE NEXT THREE OR SO YEARS LOOK LIKE FOR WHAT PROJECTS KIND OF FALL INTO MIND? SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THE CURRENT EFFORTS THAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
SO THE BIG ONE, THE COUNTY'S NUMBER ONE TRANSPORTATION PRIORITY IS THE ACTUAL ROAD OF INTERCHANGE.
UM, THE STUDY, THE INTERCHANGE ACCESS REPORT IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.
THERE WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL PUBLIC SURVEY THAT WAS IN, UH, NOVEMBER.
WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD RESPONSES FROM THAT VDOT AND THE CONSULTANT WENT THROUGH ABOUT OVER 400 RESPONSES AND TOTAL COMMENTS TO THAT SURVEY, WHICH PER VDOT IS COMPARABLE TO, UH, HENRICO COUNTY PUTTING OUT A STUDY.
CHESTERFIELD, UH, COUNTIES THAT HAVE A LOT MORE PEOPLE.
SO THERE WAS A LOT OF ENGAGED CITIZENRY IN THAT AREA, FOLKS THAT DRIVE THROUGH IT FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT COUNTIES.
SO WE WERE FORTUNATE TO GET THAT AND WHAT, WHAT VDOT AND THE CONSULTANT ARE DOING WITH THAT CURRENTLY IS TAKING THOSE RESPONSES, ANALYZING THEM, KIND OF GROUPING THEM AND THEN LOOKING AT, OKAY, IS THERE ANYTHING WE'RE MISSING THAT MAY ALREADY BE OR, OR NOT ALREADY BE A PART OF THE SCOPE? ARE THERE A LOT OF COMMENTS THAT WE MAY ALREADY BE ADDRESSING AS A PART OF THE SCOPE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT? SO THAT'S KIND OF UNDERWAY NOW.
SO THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THAT, WHAT THAT INTERCHANGE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE IS GONNA KICK OFF ONCE THE IAR IS CONCLUDED.
BUT WHAT WE ARE GETTING OUT OF THE INTERCHANGE ACCESS REPORT IS ESSENTIALLY A 10% DESIGN.
WE'RE GONNA GET KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL SCHEMATIC AS FAR AS WHAT THE INTERCHANGE IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.
WE'RE GONNA UNDERSTAND THAT WE START TO UNDERSTAND THE LIMITS OF CONSTRUCTION, HOW MUCH OF AX ON THE ROAD MAY HAVE A MEDIAN, WHERE THE SIGNALS MAY BE LOCATED AND SO ON.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THAT.
WE ARE, UM, HOPEFULLY GONNA BE SUBMITTING THE ACCESS REPORT TO FHWA IN THE APRIL TIMEFRAME.
SO NEXT MONTH IT'S COMING UP VERY QUICKLY.
SO WE HAVE TO SUBMIT FOR THEIR CONCURRENCE, GIVEN THAT IT IS A FEDERAL FACILITY, UM, CONSTRUCTION FOR THE ENTIRE INTERCHANGE IS SCHEDULED TO START IN JUNE OF 2028.
VERY TENTATIVE SCHEDULE, BUT THAT IS WHAT IS ON THE, THE, THE DOCKET RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT WOULD PUSH A COMPLETION INTO LATE 2031.
GONNA TAKE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TO GET THAT PROJECT, UH, BUILT.
SO THAT'S, UM, GONNA BE LATE 2031, THE COMPLETION.
THE, UM, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PROJECT? YES.
IT HAD SOME GENERAL QUESTIONS AS FAR AS HOW OFTEN DO YOU TRAVEL THIS AREA? UH, WHERE DO YOU LIVE IN THE COUNTY, WHAT TIMES DO YOU TRAVEL IT? UH, AND, AND THEN KIND OF OPEN-ENDED QUESTIONS WHERE YOU FILLED IN A TEXT BOX, LIKE, WHAT ARE THE PROBLEMS YOU SEE? AND THEN THERE WERE ALSO QUESTIONS WITH MULTIPLE CHOICE SELECTIONS, WHERE DO YOU SEE THE FOLLOWING ISSUES? AND THEN THEY WOULD LIST SIX OR SEVEN OR MAYBE EVEN 10 TYPES OF ISSUES OR BENEFITS.
WE COULD GET OUT OF A NEW INTERCHANGE AND THE CITIZEN COULD SELECT, I WANNA SEE THESE THINGS, OR, I'M CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING THESE TYPES OF ISSUES.
BUT THEN THERE WAS ALSO KIND OF A FREEFORM AT THE END.
YOU COULD ASK QUESTIONS, TYPE IN ANY KIND OF COMMENT OR RESPONSE OR, OR SIT OR FEEDBACK ON IT THAT WASN'T CAPTURED IN THE REST OF THE SURVEY.
SO TOTALING ALL OF THOSE WAS ABOUT FOUR OH, TOTAL RESPONSES.
UH, SO ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION STARTS, UM, WHAT'S IT GONNA LOOK LIKE FOR YOU? OR IS IT GOING DOWN THE ONE LANE, OR IS IT, SO THERE'S NO DEFINITIVE MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC PLAN TO DATE.
THE HOPE IS BRIDGE, PROBABLY THE NEW BRIDGE PROBABLY COMES FIRST.
WE UTILIZE THAT IN THE EXISTING BRIDGE TO SHIFT TRAFFIC AS NEEDED TO KEEP IT TWO LANES, CERTAINLY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRETY THAT CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY THE, THE HOPE IS I HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS KIND OF AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL OF VDO RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO THE NEXT BIG EFFORT THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHICH, UH, BE KICKING OFF, I SAY SHORTLY IN TWO, IS THE
UM, V OUT'S WORKING ON ATTAINING RIGHT NOW, SOME ADDITIONAL SURVEY.
UH, RECENTLY THE BOARD DID FUND THE REQUEST FROM STAFF TO PUT SIDEWALK DOWN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
SO THAT'LL CONNECT ROUNDABOUT TO ROUND SIX WITH SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT EXTENSION, WHICH IS SOMETHING I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO.
UM, THAT'LL PROVIDE REALLY GOOD PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY FOR THAT COUNTY AND LAND AS WE KIND OF VENTURE INTO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT LAND NEXT.
UM, THE INSTRUCTION, LIKE I SAID ON THAT IS SCHEDULED THE START IN, UH, 2026.
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SO SEEMS LIKE IT'S A WAYS AWAY, BUT IN THE WORLD, TRANSPORTATION'S ACTUALLY RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER.UM, THE NEXT CURRENT EFFORT WE HAVE IS A HOCKEY ROAD REALIGNMENT PROJECT.
UM, WE ARE THANKFUL THAT THE CTB FINALLY APPROVED OUR SCOPE CHAIN REQUEST OFFICIALLY.
SO THE, THE I'S HAVE BEEN DOTTED AND THE T'S AND AND CROSSED ON OUR SCOPE CHAIN REQUEST.
UH, THIS BOARD MAY KNOW OR REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL SCOPE FOR THE PROJECT WAS TO REMOVE AND RESTRICT THE INTERSECTION, REMOVE THE SIGNAL, AND RESTRICT THE INTERSECTION AT EXISTING HOT AT ST.
CAUSED A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM THE CITIZENS, A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AND SO ON.
SO WE DID HAVE A LONG CONVERSATION WITH VO, MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND, AND SOME STAFF OVER THERE TO WHAT, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS? DO WE LOOK AT REMOVING THE SIGNAL? DO WE WORK, DO, DO, DO WE LOOK AT RECONFIGURING THAT INTERSECTION IN SOME WAY? UM, WE LANDED ON THE BEST CHOICE FOR THAT INTERSECTION IS TO KEEP THE SIGNAL AS IS, KEEP THE INTERSECTION COMPLETELY AS IS TODAY, WHILE ALSO HAVING THAT REALIGNMENT TO DIVERT TRAFFIC THAT IS GONNA HAVE A MORE DIRECT ROUTE TO I 64.
UM, LIKE I SAID, CTV HAS OFFICIALLY APPROVED THAT SCOPE CHANGE.
SO IT WILL, UM, THE PROJECT SCOPE AND ALL THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS IS CURRENTLY BEING MODIFIED TO REFLECT THAT CHANGE.
UH, CONSTRUCTION ON THAT IS SCHEDULED TO START IN MAY OF 2028.
THE PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING IS WELL UNDERWAY FOR THAT PROJECT.
AND THEN, UH, THE OILVILLE ROAD I 64 WESTBOUND RAMP ROUNDABOUT, UH, WE ARE SEEKING THE FINAL FUNDING THROUGH, UH, REVENUE SHARING, WHICH I'LL TOUCH ON HERE IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
IT WAS A 2023 APPLICATION FOR FUNDING.
UH, PROJECT DESIGN IS UNDERWAY EVEN THOUGH THE PROJECT IS NOT FULLY FUNDED BECAUSE THE FUNDING WE DO HAVE ON THE PROJECT IS A FEDERAL EARMARK FROM THE 2023 COMMUNITY PROJECT FUNDING GRANT THAT THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, UH, APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE PASSED.
WE HAVE TO START CONSTRUCTION BY OCTOBER OF 2026.
WE ARE ON TRACK FOR THAT, BUT THAT IT'S ALSO CONTINGENT ON US BEING SUCCESSFUL THROUGH REVENUE SHARE THIS REALM OR FINDING SOME OTHER SOURCE OF THOSE FUNDS.
UM, SO THAT'S THE GOAL FOR THAT PROJECT IS TO ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE CONGESTION THAT WE DO HAVE ON THE PM RUSH RIGHT THERE AT THE VILLE EXIT.
ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE PROJECTS? SO HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL COMPANY ARE WE SEEING? SO FOR THE OILVILLE PROJECT, IT CURRENTLY HAS APPROXIMATELY FOUR AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON IT.
AND WE NEED ABOUT THREE TO THREE AND A HALF ADDITIONAL DOLLARS.
THE REVENUE SHARE WILL BE A 50 50 SPLIT IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT SEVEN TOTAL.
BETWEEN SEVEN AND A HALF AND EIGHT TOTAL IS, IS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND WE'VE GOT, WE HAVE FOUR AND A HALF NOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE.
UM, WOULD WE BE THINKING THAT THE MATCH ON THE REVENUE SHARE WOULD COME FROM CBTA FUNDS? SO, PARTIALLY, YES.
UH, THERE'S ON THE WHITEBOARD IN MY OFFICE, I CAN KIND OF HAVE IT DOODLED OUT.
UM, PART OF THAT WILL BE CBTS AND PR DOLLARS INVOLVED.
I THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.
I'LL CERTAINLY GET WITH CARLA WHEN THAT TIME COMES TO, TO LOOK AT FULLY FUNDING THE MATCH REQUEST FOR THAT REVENUE SHARE.
SO, SO A TOTAL OF $8 MILLION FOR THAT PROJECT? YES.
FOUR IS ROUGHLY FOUR IS AVAILABLE.
WE GONNA HAVE TO DO WE REVENUE SHARE ON HALF OF THE REMAINING OR THE REMAINING FOUR? IT'S HALF OF THE REMAINING HALF OF THE REMAINING CORRECTING.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL TOUCH ON THE UH, 2023 APPLICATION RESULTS.
SO WE LOOKED AT THREE DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY FROM UH, 2023, UH, CBTA TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE OR TA, AND THEN REVENUE SHARE, UM, THROUGH THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY WITH THE CBTA, WE APPLIED FOR FOUR DIFFERENT PROJECTS TO RECEIVE FUNDING.
THREE ON ROUTE 2 88, THE FAIRGROUND ROAD, MAINES ROAD INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH IS A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT.
UM, FOR TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES, WE SOUGHT FUNDING FOR A COURTHOUSE VILLAGE SIDEWALK, WHICH THE GOAL WAS TO CONNECT, UH, RE MARSH TO HOUSTON CARES WITH SIDEWALK ON THAT PART OF ROUTE SIX.
'CAUSE CURRENTLY THERE IS NO SIDEWALK ON THAT PART OF ROUTE SIX.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE WERE SEEKING.
AND THEN AS WE TALKED ABOUT THE REVENUE SHARE APPLICATION TO SEEK THE REMAINDER OF THOSE FUNDS FOR THAT OLD BILL PROJECT.
SO FOR THE CB TA PROJECT, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE FOUR APPLICATIONS.
UH, THREE OF THEM ARE ON ROUTE 2 88.
THERE'S A MYRIAD OF IMPROVEMENTS AT ROUTE 2 88 AND ROUTE TWO 50 INTERCHANGE.
IT'S, IT'S RAMP IMPROVEMENTS, SOME ADDITIONAL SIGNALIZATION, SOME TWEAKING OF THE EXISTING SIGNALS, UM, LANE IMPROVEMENTS ON BROAD STREET, AS WELL AS EVEN SOME LEFT TURN LANE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF BROAD STREET AND WILS RIDGE PARKWAY.
ALL THAT'S TO MAKE THE MATH AND THE MODELING WORK SO THAT WAY CARS ARE ABLE TO GET OFF OF ROUTE 2 88 BETTER INSTEAD OF QUEUING ONTO ROUTE 2 88 TRYING TO HEAD EAST INTO SHORE PUMP ON BROAD STREET.
UH, THAT WAS AWARDED SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
AND THE GOAL FOR THAT IS WE'RE PLANNING ON LEVERAGING THAT SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION FOR SMART SCALE FUNDS TO SEEK THE REST THROUGH THAT MECHANISM.
UM, THE SAME GOES FOR THE ROUTE 2 88 SOUTHBOUND
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AUXILIARY LANE.THAT PROJECT IS A FULL LANE WIDENING FROM US TWO 50 ON ROUTE 2 88 ALL THE WAY TO HOE CREEK PARKWAY.
SO FROM THAT, FOR THAT PORTION OF ROUTE 2 88, IT WOULD BE THREE LANES IN THE SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION, WHICH WOULD CERTAINLY HELP CERTAINLY WITH YOUR CAPITAL ONE AND YOUR CARMAX CONGESTION THAT WE DO SEE IN THE HAM AND PMP.
THAT WILL CERTAINLY HELP GET THOSE FOLKS.
UM, IN AND OFF, UH, AROUND 2 88, A LOT QUICKER.
SAME, UH, SEVEN AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA LOOK FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT THROUGH SMART SCALE THIS ROUND.
SO, SO WHAT IS THE NINE? WHAT'S THE TOTAL? UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT OFF.
UM, WE'LL TOUCH ON THESE PROJECTS AGAIN ACTUALLY IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
I CAN PULL UP THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
UH, YOU, YOU SAID THAT WILL BE FROM UH, TWO 50 TO TWO TUCKO CREEK PARKWAY.
SO THAT LANE WILL DEAD END AT THAT EXIT.
YOU SAID THAT WAS GONNA HELP WITH CAPITAL ONE SOUTHBOUND TRAFFIC, WHICH IS LIKE, THAT'S WHERE IT STARTS BACK UP.
SO THE WAY THE SOUTHBOUND WORKS, I BELIEVE IS IN THE P AND P, IT TENDS TO BE WORSE HEADING IN THE SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION, RIGHT? SO ALLOWING YOU TO THREE LANES THERE AND GET FOLKS, I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
SO IT'S WITH THE STUDIES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THE SOUTHBOUND PM RUSH HOUR WILL BE MITIGATED A LOT WITH, UH, THAT SOUTHBOUND AUXILIARY LANE GETTING FOLKS SOUTH TOWARDS CHESTERFIELD AND THE THOE CREEK AREA, WHICH IS NOT ALL CAPITAL ONE.
IT'S NOT ALL CAPITAL ONE, BUT IT IS SOME FOLKS THAT ARE HEADING, I GUESS THE PM AND CHESTERFIELD OKAY.
FROM IT'S CAPITAL ONE'S RIGHT THERE BY THE STREET.
SO IF THAT'S WHERE THE THIRD LANE IS, LIKE HOW DOES THAT HELP? THERE'S ALSO A COUPLE OTHER VARIOUS PROJECTS AND APOLOGIES.
FIVE FIVE BESPOKE ON THE CAPITAL ONE.
IT MIGHT BE, UH, MORE OF A NORTHBOUND PROJECT TRYING TO GET FOLKS.
UM, NO, BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT THE OTHER ENTRANCE.
THIS IS ONE OF MANY, PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE PROJECTS IN THAT VICINITY ON ROUTE 2 88 THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
BOTH THE AM AND THE PM RUSH, I BELIEVE THE NORTHBOUND IS THE AM ISSUE IN THEN SOUTHBOUND IS A PM ISSUE NORTH.
UM, SO THAT WITH THE INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENTS AND ALSO THE, THE NEXT PROJECT, WHICH I'LL TOUCH ON IS A SECOND THAT MARCHAL RUNNING LANE HOPEFULLY WILL SOLVE FROM FOR OUR SECTION OF ROUTE 2 88 FROM THE RIVER TWO 50.
OUR GOAL IS TO SOLVE A LOT OF THOSE CONGESTION ISSUES WITH REALLY A SUITE OF FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
UM, THE CONGESTION REALLY AGAINST CHESTERFIELD AS WELL.
SO THERE WAS, IT'S BUMPER TO BUMPER RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON ROUTE 2 88 REALLY FROM ONE INTO THE OTHER.
UM, I KNOW WHEN YOU GET INTO CHESTERFIELD, THERE'S LARGE SECTIONS OF ROUTE 2 88.
THERE ARE ALREADY THREE LANES.
UM, I KNOW CHESTERFIELD'S ALSO SEEKING A, UH, FUNDING THROUGH I BELIEVE CBTA FOR A, A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN THE GENITAL ROAD AREA.
SO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME CONGESTION THERE AS WELL.
UM, BUT THE ROUTE 2 88, HOW WE GOT A HOLD OF THESE PROJECTS WAS THERE WAS A STUDY DONE FROM ESSENTIALLY ROUTE 60 TO THE, THE I 64 INTERCHANGE WITH ROUTE 2 88.
IT'S CALLED A STAR STUDY, WHICH SOUNDS A LITTLE, UH, BACKWARDS, BUT IT'S AN AFFORDABLE SOLUTION STUDY.
EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE 20, 30, $50 MILLION PROJECTS.
THEY'RE AFFORDABLE SOLUTIONS IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS.
UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THOSE PROJECTS OUT OF THAT STUDY, WHICH WAS, I BELIEVE, 2018.
AND THEN I KNOW CHESTERFIELD DID A STUDY FOR ESSENTIALLY THEIR PORTION, THIS, THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF ROUTE 2 88 TO LOOK AT THE SAME KIND OF AFFORDABLE LENS ON HOW WE CAN BETTER IMPROVE CONGESTION ROUTE 2 88.
UM, SO THE THIRD ROUTE 2 88 PROJECT IS THAT HARD SHOULDER RUNNING LANE THAT I MENTIONED.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE DOING THERE IS, THERE'S AN UNDERWAY PROJECT IN THE NORTHBOUND DIRECTION, WHICH ADDS A LANE ON THE SHOULDER FULL RUSH HOUR HOLDER.
IT'S GONNA BE GATE CONTROLLED WITH SIGNAGE OVERHEAD, THE RED X, THE GREEN ARROW TO TELL YOU WHEN THE LANE IS OPEN FOR TRAFFIC AND WHEN IT'S NOT.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE SISTER PROJECT TO THAT.
LIKE I SAID, THE NORTHBOUND IS UNDERWAY NOW.
IT WAS PARTIALLY FUNDED THROUGH CBTA AND SMART SCALE.
UM, THE SOUTHBOUND WE ARE, UM, IT WAS NOT AWARDED ADDITIONAL FUNDS BECAUSE IT IS A SIGNIFICANTLY EXPENSIVE PROJECT.
I THINK THIS IS BETWEEN 50 AND $60 MILLION.
UM, WE DO RETAIN PREVIOUSLY AWARDED $4.9 MILLION THROUGH CBTA THAT WE'LL USE TO LEVERAGE SMART SCALE FUNDS.
UM, BUT THE COST FOR THAT PROJECT IS, IS, UM, IS SOUTHBOUND MORE EXPENSIVE THAN NORTHBOUND? IT IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE EXPENSIVE.
AND PART OF THAT IS HOW THE, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO DOUBLE.
UH, AND, AND A BIG REASON FOR THAT, WE FOUND OUT HOW IT INTERACTS WITH THE WEST CREEK INTERCHANGE.
SO THE WEST CREEK RAMPS KIND OF OUT COMPLEXITY.
'CAUSE THE SCOPE OF THIS IS A LONGER PART OF 2 88.
THE NORTHBOUND WAS JUST ROUTE SEVEN 11 AT PALATAN TO ROUTE SIX.
IT IT, THE LANE DROPPED OFF AT ROUTE SIX.
THIS WILL BE WEST CREEK TO SEVEN 11.
SO IT'S GOT THAT ADDITIONAL RAMPS TO CONTEND WITH, WHICH ADDS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT COST AND HEAD MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC.
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SO WHITE HAS DEAD, WHAT WAS THAT? IS IT DEAD NO MORE RIGHT NOW? NO, IT'S NOT DEAD.WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING THAT 4.9 MILLION AND, AND GOING THROUGH SMART SCALE, AT LEAST THAT'S GONNA BE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO SEE, TO SEE HOW WE, UH, SHAKE OUT WITH THAT.
BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS A LOT OF MONEY THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.
THE, THE DATA DOES SHOW THAT IT IS A BENEFICIAL PROJECT.
IT SCORES WELL IN THOSE, UM, IN THE APPLICATION SCORING WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE CRITERIA.
BUT IT IS JUST, IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.
SO THAT'S WHEN YOU DO THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS AND DIVIDE BY THE COST, IT STARTS TO RANK A LITTLE LOWER BECAUSE OF THAT.
SO IF, IF IT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL THIS ROUND, WE MAY HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH VDOT ON BRINGING SOME OTHER DOLLARS TO THE TABLE.
DO WE CHASE CBTA? DO WE CHASE SOME ADDITIONAL DOLLARS TO MAYBE BALANCE OUT A SMART SCALE APPLICATION? THERE? THERE'S ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THIS, WHICH IS THE REASON THIS CAME TO US IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A TECHNOLOGY.
THERE WAS TECHNOLOGY FUNDS 6 MILLION, EIGHT, $8 MILLION.
THAT SECRETARY OF TRANSPORTATION AT THE TIME SAID WE WANT TO TRY THE TECHNOLOGY OPTION.
AND THIS WAS A GREAT WAY TO DO IT.
SO THIS WAS SORT OF INSTIGATED BY VDO US TO CARRY THIS PROJECT.
IF THE PROOF OF CONCEPT ON THAT BRIDGE FOR THE NORTHBOUND PLAYS OUT THEN WILL MAKE THE SOUTHBOUND MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE.
UM, AND THEN THE FOURTH PROJECT WE SAW THROUGH CBTA THIS ROUND WAS ACTUALLY A FULL FUNDING ACT.
SO WE WEREN'T GONNA TRY TO LEVERAGE THROUGH ANOTHER SMART SCALER OR ANOTHER FUNDING PLAN.
THE FULL ESTIMATE WAS THE, UH, FAIR ROUND ROAD, MAIN ROAD ROUNDABOUT THAT I MENTIONED.
AND, AND THAT WAS NOT AWARDED FUNDS THROUGH CA WERE WE THE ONLY PROJECT, WE'RE THE ONLY LOCALITY THAT WAS, I DON'T WANT TO SAY DIDN'T GET FUNDS.
SO 35% OF THE TAX WE CHARGED TO GET THE MICRO CCBT, 35% COMPETES AGAINST OTHER REGIONAL PROJECTS.
SO THEY GAVE EACH JURISDICTION A PROJECT THAT MAY NOT MEET THE REGIONAL REQUIREMENTS.
'CAUSE WE HAD LIKE ALMOST ALL THE ROADS THAT WE HAD REGIONAL REQUIREMENTS, WE ALREADY GOT PROJECTS ON.
SO WE HAD THIS ONE THAT THE QUESTION TO YOU IS MM-HMM
SO THERE WERE, I I ASKED CBTA STAFF THIS QUESTION HOW MANY WERE SUBMITTED WILDCARD, AND I BELIEVE THAT WAS THREE TOTAL WILDCARD SUBMISSIONS AFTER ALL OF THE BACK AND FORTH WITH FINANCE TECH AND THE FULL BODY.
I BELIEVE IT MAY BE THE ONLY MODEL CARD THAT WAS NOT FUNDED.
I, I, I BELIEVE THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD.
UM, SO MENTION TWO OTHER FUNDING POTS THAT WE SOUGHT MONEY THROUGH, UH, REVENUE SHARE, THE OLDVILLE ROAD ROUNDABOUT, UH, OFF RAMP IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, THE FUNDING'S GOT NOT YET ANNOUNCES FOR THAT.
I WAS HOPING TO HAVE HOPEFULLY GOOD NEWS FOR THE BOARD FOR THIS, UH, MEETING.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T EXPECT THE NEXT MONTH AND THE CTB, THEIR DRAFT SIX YEAR PLAN.
SO I'M STAYING ON TOP OF MY CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR BEAT OUT REPRESENTATIVE WHO WILL LET ME KNOW WHEN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AND WHAT MEETINGS AND TIMES AND THINGS.
SO I CAN HOPEFULLY FIND OUT PRETTY QUICKLY.
BUT WE'RE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT IT WILL BE FULLY FUNDED BECAUSE OF THE RELATIVE LOW ASK AS FAR AS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN OUR 50 50 SPLIT.
AND ROUNDABOUTS ARE VERY, THEY'RE A NICE PROJECT BECAUSE THEY'RE SAFE.
THEY TEND TO SCORE WELL BECAUSE OF THAT.
UM, I, I'VE CALLED 'EM KIND OF THE FLAVOR OF THE MONTH, SO TO SPEAK WITH VDOT IN FUNDING APPLICATIONS BECAUSE THEY JUST TEND TO SCORE REALLY WELL.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE DID, WE DID HAVE A RELATIVE THE PAST I HOPE TO HAVE GOOD NEWS IN APRIL.
SO WE'RE ASKING FOR ABOUT HALF.
AND THAT'S WHERE I'VE GOT DO ON MY WHITEBOARD IN MY OFFICE WHERE THAT OTHER HALFS COME FROM.
OR AT LEAST WHERE I PLAN TO TAKE IT FROM.
HIS WIFE IS BUSY DOING BAKE SALES.
UM, AND THEN TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES.
WE, WE SUBMITTED ONE APPLICATION FOR THAT.
AND WHAT THAT FUNDING POT REALLY LOOKS AT IS ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS TO TRANSPORTATION AS FAR AS IT LOOKS AT A LOT OF BIKE PET FACILITIES.
YOUR, YOUR NON-TRADITIONAL TRANSPORTATION FACILITIES.
SO NOT REALLY ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
IF THEY ARE ROAD IMPROVEMENT, THEY'RE GEAR TOWARDS SAFETY OR ROAD DIETS.
SO REMOVING LANES, UH, WE, WE DID SEEK TO GET FUNDING FOR A SIDEWALK, AS I MENTIONED RIGHT HERE TO CONNECT BREED MARSH OUT TO GLAND CARES.
'CAUSE CURRENTLY THAT SIDE OF ROUTE SIX HAS NO SIDEWALK EXCEPT FOR RIGHT IN FRONT OF GLAND CARES.
IT SCORED 13TH OUT OF 17 TOTAL PROJECTS.
AND IT'S NOT EXPECTED TO RECEIVE FUNDS, UH, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THAT MECHANISM.
AND THAT'S HOW MUCH IS THAT ESTIMATE? THE TOTAL AT COST ESTIMATE? WE, WE WERE ASKING FOR THE FULL AMOUNT.
THE TOTAL COST ESTIMATE WAS $1.8 MILLION SIDEWALK, APPROXIMATELY
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25.THEY SHORT SIDEWALK FEE A SIDEWALK.
SO REALLY, REALLY NICE SIDEWALK.
UH, NOW UNFORTUNATELY, THE COST OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS IS SOMETHING THAT I CAN'T CONTROL.
VDOT, IT'S, IT IS, THEY'VE GROWN.
UH, THROUGH THE, UH, OILVILLE ROAD ROUNDABOUT, UM, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO PUT OUR INPUT ON IT IF IT'S A COST HERE? LIKE A TRACTOR, TRACTOR TRAILERS.
BUT I MEAN, CAN WE KIND BEEF IT UP? I GUESS? SO THE DESIGN STANDARDS IS GONNA HAVE TO MEET, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO MEET FOR AN INTERSTATE TRAILER BECAUSE IT'S AT AN INTERSTATE FACILITY.
THE, THE TERM IT'S, IT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE ADEQUATE FOR A 67 FOOT TRAILER, WHICH IS AN INTERSTATE TRAILER OKAY.
IN THE TRANSPORTATION DESIGN WORLD.
SO IT'LL BE SIZE FOR, FOR, FOR THOSE TO BE ABLE TO NAVIGATE.
YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW MUCH INPUT WE GET INTO FEEDBACK NOW WHEN WE HAVE TO PUT UP THE BUMPS.
WE HAVE LIMITED, BUT WE, WE, WE TRY OUR BEST TO PROVIDE INPUT WHERE THEY ASK FOR IT.
SO AS I MENTIONED, UM, WE, WE WERE UNSUCCESSFUL WITH SOME OTHERS AND, AND ONE PENDING.
I CERTAINLY HOPE TO HAVE GOOD NEWS NEXT MONTH FOR THAT ROUNDABOUT.
'CAUSE IT'S A PROJECT WE REALLY WANT TO DO, GET FUNDED.
BUT I'VE BUILT A SIX YEAR PLAN THAT KIND OF LOOKS AT ALL THE VARIOUS FUNDING POTS THAT WE HAVE HERE AT THE BOTTOM FOR US.
AND THEN ALL OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE EITHER HAVE FUNDING ON, THEY'RE FULLY FUNDED AT PARTIAL FUNDING ON THAT AREN'T FULLY FUNDED OR PROJECTS THAT WE ASK FOR MONEY.
AND WE'RE UNSUCCESSFUL THIS ROUND.
SO DON'T EXPECT TO GO THROUGH THIS LINE BY LINE.
REALLY JUST KIND OF A PROVIDING INFORMATION FOR THE COORDINATES AND THE HANDOUT AS WELL.
BUT THE ONE THING I ALWAYS TRY TO POINT OUT HERE IS THAT ADDING IN THE PRIOR FUNDING LINE, $42 MILLION AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF FUNDING WE HAVE ALLOCATED OR EXPECT TO HAVE ALLOCATED, UH, FY 25 TO FY 30.
WHEN YOU ADD THOSE TWO LINES TOGETHER, IT'S NORTH OF $130 MILLION.
WHICH IS PRETTY GOOD FOR A COUNTY OF OUR SIZE TO HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY ON TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
SO EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE NOT ALL FULLY FUNDED REQUESTS, WE, I'D LIKE TO THINK I SEE A PATH FOR EACH OF THOSE NOS TO TURN YESES.
UM, SO WITH THAT EVEN, AND IF YOU ADD IN, I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A COLUMN ADDING IN THE TOTAL PROJECT ESTIMATES HERE, BUT IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT PROVIDE A LOT OF BENEFIT BOTH TO THE REGION AND TO US LOCALLY.
SO WE ARE FORTUNATE THAT WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THROUGH THE VARIOUS MECHANISMS. SMART SCALE CBTA WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH RECENTLY.
UM, BUT I, I ALWAYS LIKE TO JUST POINT THAT OUT THAT WE'VE GOT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY NOW.
UH, YOU JUST THREW OUT 130 MILLION.
I'M TRYING TO PUT THAT SOMEHOW.
SO I'M JUST ADDING THE 92 AND THE 42.
AND THEN I SEE OUR, OUR FRIENDS, THE EAST END TRAILS THAT IS FULLY FUNDED.
WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT? SO THAT PROJECT IS IN KIND OF A FLUX AT THE MOMENT.
THERE WAS SOME MOMENTUM LAST YEAR, LATE LAST YEAR WITH CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
THERE'S SOME CONCERN WITH SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, ABOUT LIABILITY WITH THE TRAIL, WHETHER IT'S ON AN EASEMENT OR, OR PER PURCHASED OUTRIGHT FOR THE ALIGNMENT FOR THAT TRAIL.
UM, THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE KIND OF NOT FELL OFF.
THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY THE WRONG TERM, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF MOMENTUM ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS LATELY.
UM, THE DESIGN OF THAT IS WE WENT THROUGH SOME DESIGN ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO AGO AND THAT ALSO KIND OF STALLED OUT, PENDING THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
'CAUSE WE WERE SHOWING EASEMENTS THAT MAYBE HADN'T BEEN DISCUSSED WITH, SAID LANDOWNERS BEFORE.
UM, SO
'CAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER PRIORITIES AS WELL THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE TAKE CARE OF.
WE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES DURING THE SCHOOL BOARD CIP MM-HMM.
AND I SEE THAT THIS IS FULLY FUNDED BASED ON TWO YEAR AGO PRICES AND MORE OR LESS.
AND SO INFLATION HASN'T AFFECTED THAT AT ALL.
SO IS IT REALLY STILL FULLY FUNDED? SO IT'S FULLY FUNDED TO THE MOST RECENT ESTIMATE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY IT'S A YES IN THIS CHART.
UM, BUT TO YOUR POINT, IF WE WERE TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT TODAY, IT IS LIKELY NOT TO BE FULLY FUNDED TO A NEW VDOT ESTIMATE.
THAT IS A VDOT ESTIMATE THAT THEY PROVIDED TO US, WHICH HAS VDOT CHARGES AND OTHER OVERSIGHT THINGS ON TO COME ALONG WITH THAT.
ONE THING I HOPE TO ADDRESS OR, OR OR PRESENT TO THE BOARD IN THE NEXT, MAYBE EVEN AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP IS DO WE TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THE, THE EASTERN TRAILS OR THE COURTHOUSE SIDEWALK OR $1.8 MILLION FOR 2,500 FEET OF SIDEWALK? DO WE GET OUT OF THE
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AND, AND JUST PULLING ALL THE NECESSARY PERMITS.CERTAINLY THERE'S A LOT OF COST SAVINGS THAT WE MAY SEE WITH THAT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A QUANTITY THAT MAY SAVE US ON EACH PROJECT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK'S WORTH EXPLORING.
SO IT WOULD HELP SOME OF THOSE MAYBE SMALLER PROJECTS A LITTLE QUICKER.
WASN'T THE COURTHOUSE SIDEWALK, WOULD IT BE A SELF MANAGED PROJECT? IT WAS GONNA BE A LOCALLY ADMINISTERED PROJECT, BUT IT WAS THROUGH FEED OS LOCALLY ADMINISTERED PROGRAM.
SO EVEN THOUGH I WAS SLATED TO BE THE
UH, AND, AND GOING THROUGH THE VDOT PROCESS, EVEN IF IT'S NOT VDO STAFF INVOLVED, THEY STILL HAVE THEIR OVERSIGHT CHARGES AND, AND CONSTRUCTION CHARGES WITH THAT ABOUT 20%.
I THINK THAT'S ON THE LOW END.
60,000 BUCKS JUST JUST FOR THEM THOUGH.
SO ANY QUESTIONS OVERALL ON KIND OF WHERE WE'RE, CAN I VISIT WITH YOU JUST FOR A SECOND ON THE CBTA, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A 7 CENT TAX FOR SIX SIX POINT.
SO IT'S A, I BELIEVE IT'S 7.6 PER 7.7 0.6% TAX ON EVERY GALLON OF GAS.
AND, AND, AND THEN 1% SALES TAX AND A 1% SALES TAX.
SO AND 50% OF WHAT'S COLLECTED COMES BACK TO THE MUNICIPALITY, CORRECT.
35% GOES INTO THIS FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS, 15% FOR THE BUSES.
SO WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE OUR CITIZENS TO BUY GAS IN GOLAND COUNTY.
AND I THINK IT'S ALMOST A WELL KEPT SECRET AS FAR AS THE PUBLIC IS CONCERNED.
SO WE NEED TO PUBLICIZE THIS AND THAT MAY BE THROUGH OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR DIVISION OR SOMETHING FIGURE I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO BE AWARE OF THAT EVERY CHANCE WE GET.
'CAUSE THAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT.
MM-HMM,
SO WE DID ACTUALLY HAVE A SOCIAL MEDIA POST TO KIND OF SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TURNING THAT INTO MORE OF A RECURRING SPOTLIGHT ON AT LEAST SOCIAL MEDIA AND MAYBE SOME OTHER AVENUES TO GET THAT MESSAGE OUT THERE.
BECAUSE I, I COMPLETELY AGREE.
I'M TRY TO FILL UP, EVEN IF I'M GOING TO THE SHORT UP OF THE DAY, I TRY TO MAKE SURE I CAN COME BACK AND FILL UP IN THE COUNTY SO I AT LEAST MY TAX DOLLARS ARE COME TO HELP BUILD SOME OF THESE ROADS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT GENERALLY WITH SOME OF THESE PROJECTS? I GOT AN OVERALL COMMENT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE GET A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS DONE.
IT'S GONNA LOWER, I DON'T WANT SAY COST, BUT I GUESS IT IS KIND OF COST FOR EMS AND, AND DEPUTIES AND WHATNOT AND REDUCE AND TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
IT FREES THEM UP TO DO PUBLIC SAFETY HERE IN THE COUNTY.
WELL THAT'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF PROJECTS KIND OF COME OUTTA SAFETY NEEDS WITH, WITH CRASH DATA AND SO ON.
UM, CHIEF I SEE YOU, MIKE, DO YOU WANT TO ADD MAYBE THE HO OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET OUT OF SAFER ROADS? WELL, I MEAN CERTAINLY, UH, CERTAINLY WHAT MR SAID IS RIGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERY CALL WE DON'T GO TO, IT MAKES US AVAILABLE TO GO TO ANOTHER ONE THAT WE HAVE TO GO TO.
UM, CERTAINLY WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, ROADS THAT ARE, THAT ARE SECONDARY ROADS WITH LOTS OF TRAFFIC.
UH, WE WORRY ABOUT, UH, SUBDIVISIONS BEING BUILT ON ROADS THAT, UH, CAN'T HANDLE THE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT HAVE A HIGH NUMBER OF FATALITIES IN SOME CASES.
UM, WE ALSO, WERE GONNA HAVE THREE BRIDGES THAT FIRE ENGINES CAN'T CROSS.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S 400 PLUS HOMES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THE THREE BRIDGES IN THE WESTERN END, THE COUNTY THAT THE FIRE ENGINES ARE TWO HEADING ACROSS.
AND IT ADDS ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO FOUR MINUTES OF, UH, RESPONSE TIMES BECAUSE AN EMERGENCY IN HIS HOMES.
AND THEN THAT'S BASED ON DATA FROM 2020.
'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON TRYING TO GET THESE THREE BRIDGES ON THE, ON THE MAP, UH, FOR THE PAST, UH, FIVE OR SIX YEARS.
SO TO THAT POINT, I THINK, UH, I THINK ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE OUR ROADS IS GONNA BE A GOOD THING, UH, FOR THE COUNTY AND OUR CITIZENS TO KEEP, KEEP EVERYONE SAFE.
I'M ACTUALLY GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THOSE BRIDGES.
SO I, I HOPE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION, MAYBE HOPEFULLY AT THE NEXT WORKSHOP THAT I REACHED OUT TO ONE OF OUR ON CALLS.
AND THEY'RE GONNA DO KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL CONCEPTUAL REVIEW OF WHAT REPLACEMENTS LOOK LIKE.
IF, IF, AND THEN EXPLORE HOW WE'RE GONNA MAYBE FUND THOSE.
DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL THROUGH THE TRADITIONAL FUNDING MECHANISM FOR BRIDGES BECAUSE IT, THE BRIDGE HAS TO REACH A STATE WHICH SOUNDS WORSE THAN IT IS IT'S STRUCTURALLY DEFICIENT.
IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GONNA FALL DOWN TOMORROW, BUT IT HAS TO REACH A CERTAIN RATING LEVEL FOR RATING LEVEL BEFORE IT CAN BE
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CONSIDERED FOR REALLY THE ONLY POT OF MONEY, SPECIFICALLY FOR BRIDGES IN THE STATE.SO THAT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HOPEFULLY GONNA GET SOME GOOD INFORMATION ON IN THE COMING WEEKS ABOUT HOW MUCH, IF WE WERE TO JUST PAY OUTRIGHT, WHAT DO THESE BRIDGES LOOK LIKE AND, AND AND, AND WHAT ARE THE COSTS FOR THEM.
SO WITH THAT, THE, THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO TURN OBVIOUSLY AND THEN CONTINUALLY ADD TO THIS LIST.
SO WE CAN HAVE 20, 30 PROJECTS EITHER DONE UNDERWAY AND THEN SOON TO BE, UH, UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
PART OF THAT IS THE TWO YEAR FUNDING CYCLE THAT I TALKED ABOUT.
SO TRANSPORTATION, AS SOON AS WE GET CBTA FUNDS, UM, WE'RE ALREADY GEARING TOWARDS THE NEXT ROUND OF CBTA TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
SO WE ARE IN THE MARCH TIMEFRAME OF THE EVEN CALENDAR YEAR CYCLE.
UM, THIS IS A CHART THAT'S ACTUALLY PROVIDED ME BY, BY SPEED OUT, WHICH I THINK IS A GOOD OVERVIEW OF REALLY EVERY FUNDING MECHANISM THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE IN MARCH, AND REALLY THE ENTIRE EVEN YEAR CENTERED AROUND SMART SCALE, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY MAJOR FUNDING MECHANISM THAT'S AVAILABLE TO LOCALITIES ON, ON EVEN YEARS.
SO WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING THROUGH THAT AND I'LL TOUCH ON OUR SMART SCALE PROCESS AND, AND WHERE WE'RE AT WITH SOME OF OUR PROJECTS ON THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES.
AND THEN IN THE ODD CALENDAR YEARS, WE HAVE THE CBTA, WE'VE GOT THE REVENUE SHARE, WHICH WE JUST APPLIED FOR IN 2023 TA FOR ANY SIDEWALK AND BIKE PET FACILITY PROJECTS AND SO ON.
SO THIS IS THE SOMEWHAT STATIC BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EVOLVE TOO MUCH, BUT THE EVER CHANGING LANDSCAPE OF, OF FUNDING CYCLES, BECAUSE WE'RE ALWAYS, LIKE I SAID, WE JUST GOT CBTA, BUT WE JUST PLANNED FOR AND, AND WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING THROUGH AT THE TACK LEVEL, WHAT DOES THE NEXT TWO YEARS LOOK LIKE AS FAR AS WHEN APPLICATIONS ARE DUE AND SO ON.
SO WE'RE ALREADY PLANNING FOR THAT.
CAN YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE? THE REVENUE DOWN THERE? FIVE RESOURCES? YES.
AND SO THE GENERAL FUND THAT IS COMING FROM R-C-I-P-I GUESS THAT YES.
SO IT CAME FROM, UH, PAST CIP PROJECTS THAT I COULDN'T, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? UM, FUNDING WAY.
UM, BUT REALLY THAT'S FUNDING THAT WAS ON OLDER PROJECTS AND, AND, AND FUNDING THAT.
SO PREVIOUS BOARDS ALLOCATED THOSE FUNDS TOWARD THOSE PROJECTS.
SO TO, TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT MONEY CAME FROM, I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT PAST RESOLUTIONS.
IT'S NOT THESE FORENSIC CANADA THAT'S, THAT'S AND THE SSYP, I KNOW IT'S A ACRONYM ON NEW, THE SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN.
SO AGAIN, OTHER THAN CBTA REGIONAL THANK YOU MR. STEWART.
UH, MOST OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING THERE IS COMING FROM TAXPAYER, LOCAL TAXPAYER FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
SO OF THE 92 MILLION OR REALLY UP THE 130 SOME ODD MILLION DOLLARS, I'M LOOKING AT PRIOR FUNDING.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT PRIOR FUNDING.
SO OF JUST THE PRIOR FUNDING OF THE 42, ONLY $6 MILLION CAME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR ALL THESE PROJECTS.
SO JUST FURTHER EXPLAIN, UH, I GUESS TO YOU, HOW DOES IT GET ON THE LIST? HOW DO PROJECTS GET ON THE LIST? WHAT'S THE PROCESS? DID YOU READ THE LAST SLIDE? YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO I'LL JUMP AHEAD A LITTLE BIT TO, OOPS, HERE WE GO.
SO THE STAFF IS ON TOP OF IT, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TRYING TO, THE QUESTION WE'RE TRYING, UM, SO I'VE GOT BIG BLANK HERE.
IT SAYS UNDER DEVELOPMENT, PART OF THAT IS I'M WORKING HOPEFULLY WITH ONE OF OUR ON CALLS TO DEVELOP BETTER DEVELOP, IF YOU WILL, A TRANSPORTATION, I'LL CALL IT A CIP EVEN THOUGH IT WON'T BE FUNDED AS A CIP SO TO SPEAK.
I INHERITED A, A TRANSPORTATION PRIORITY LIST THAT WE'VE HAD FOR QUITE SOME TIME WITH A LOT OF GOOD PROJECTS ON IT, NATIONAL OR DDI, OILVILLE, UH, HOCK ROAD AND SO ON.
WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN FUNDING A LOT OF OUR BIG, BIG TICKET ITEMS, SO TO SPEAK.
SO PART OF WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR NOW WITH HOPEFULLY THE HELP OF ONE OF OUR ON-CALL CONSULTANTS IS, OKAY, WE'VE KNOCKED OFF 7, 6, 7 PROJECTS.
DO WE HAVE SIX OR SEVEN TO BACKFILL NOW THAT WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED IN THE PAST? THERE'S CONTINUOUSLY STUDIES BEING DONE.
THERE'S, UH, HENRICO JUST DID A BIG STUDY TO GET THE CHANGE APPROVED AT AT GATE OVERPASS.
UH, SO THERE'S PROJECTS THAT ARE WITHIN GOLAND COUNTY THAT CAME OUTTA THAT STUDY WE MIGHT NOT HAVE IDENTIFIED.
SO DO WE ADD THOSE TO THE LIST OF WHERE DO THEY FALL IN THE PRIORITY LIST TO BUILD OUT THE NEXT TWO YEARS WORTH OF APPLICATIONS? SO WE'VE KIND OF STATS ALREADY SLATED THAT.
WE'VE GOT FIVE PRE-APP APPLICATIONS FOR SMART SCALE, WHICH WILL BE DUE IN JUNE.
WE'VE ALREADY KIND OF LAID OUT AGAIN THREE R 2 88 PROJECTS AND WE'RE GONNA KICK IN TWO PROJECTS THAT CAME FROM THE FAIR NUMBER OF CORRIDOR STUDY, WHICH WAS A SAFETY STUDY REALLY LOOKING AT THAT.
AND THE TWO BIG PROJECTS THAT CAME OUT OF THAT WERE, UH, TURN LANES
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AT HAWK DOWN ROAD AND THEN ROUNDABOUT MAIDENS.WE'RE GONNA PUT BOTH OF THOSE AS A PRE-APPLICATION FOR SMART CHANNEL AND REALLY HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH VDOT AND SEE WHICH ONE'S MORE LIKELY TO GET FUNDING.
AND THEN WE WOULD GO TO THE BOARD AND DETERMINE WHICH ONE DOES THE BOARD THEN WANT TO SEND FOR THE FULL APPLICATION.
'CAUSE WE GO FROM FIVE CENTRAL FIRST LOOKS DOWN TO FOUR FULL APPLICATIONS, SO WE'D HAVE TO CUT ONE FROM THE LIST.
UM, BUT THEN THE NEXT TWO YEARS WORTH OF APPLICATIONS ARE PULLING FROM THAT LIST.
LIKE I SAID, I INHERITED A GOOD TRANSPORTATION PRIORITY LIST, BUT AS WE SLOWLY WHITTLED IT DOWN, WE NEED TO ADD IN.
AND THEN HOW DID THOSE NEW PROJECTS RE HOW, HOW WE NEED TO CONTINUOUSLY REPRIORITIZE AND LOOK AT IT.
I, I ALWAYS THROW AROUND THE PHRASE THAT WE'RE ONE LAND USE CASE AWAY FROM THE NEW PRIORITY.
THE PROJECT ROCKY CASE SHOWED EVEN MORE LIGHT THAN WAS ALREADY ON THE ACTUAL INTERCHANGE.
IT BECAME THE PRIORITY, THE ONLY PRIORITY FOR THAT YEAR FOR STAFF TO REALLY FOCUS ON GETTING FUNDED.
WELL, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NEXT BIG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT MAY BE.
THAT MAY COMPLETELY SHAKE UP AN ENTIRE LIST THAT I'VE GOT.
SO IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS A FLUID DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO COMPILE AND MAYBE REPRIORITIZE AND I HOPE TO HAVE SOME INFORMATION FOR THE BOARD MAYBE, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR AS FAR AS WHAT THAT NEW LIST LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN WE START BUILDING AND SO ON.
I KNOW YOU'VE TALKED IN THE PAST ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THAT CARRY AND IMPROVE AND HELP ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSIDERATION TO ME IS VERY IMPORTANT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT, SO.
WHAT IS THE STATUS OF, CAN WE, THE STATUS OF, I THINK IT'S CALLED RURAL SOMETHING, COUNTY ROADS MOVING INTO THE STATE SYSTEM.
SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT TYPES.
THERE'S RURAL ADDITIONS IN THE RURAL RUSTIC.
UM, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE ROADS COMING INTO UNDER
UH, THE RURAL RUSTIC PROGRAM IS TAKING GRAVEL ROADS AND MAKING THEM PAVE THAT ARE ALREADY
HOW, WHERE ARE WE OUT THE LADDER ON THE RURAL RUSTED? YES.
SO I ACTUALLY AM DUE FOR AN UPDATE ON OUR NEXT SECONDARY SIX YEAR PLAN, WHICH IS AT SSYP.
UH, THAT'S A, THERE'S ONLY ONE MORE ROAD.
WE'VE, WE'VE GOT A FEW GRAVEL
THE GOAL IS TO EVENTUALLY, I SAY PAVE THEM ALL.
WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO ESSENTIALLY PUT TAR GRAVEL ON AND HARD SURFACE EACH BEAT UP MAINTAIN GRAVEL ROAD.
WE'VE GOT THE END OF ROCKCASTLE ROAD DOWN FROM I THINK WHERE WESTVIEW IS DOWN TO THE END OF, OF WHERE STATE MAINTEN THERE JUST
UM, I KNOW THERE'S, I BELIEVE PART OF ELK ISLAND ROAD IS ALSO STILL AT GRAVEL ROAD, BUT IT IS UNDER VDOT MAINTENANCE.
SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE ONE THAT FALLS UNDER THAT LIST.
SO THERE'S I THINK A TOTAL OF FIVE TO 10 TOTAL GRAVEL ROADS THAT ARE IN VDOT MAINTENANCE CURRENTLY IN THE COUNTY.
OUR ROAD I BELIEVE IS PRIVATE.
SO IF WE JUST MAKE KEEPING SURE ON TOP OF THAT LIST.
UM, WHEN WE, WE DID THE STUDY LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE REGARDING BARE GROUND ROAD.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE ROUNDABOUT WAS A SOLUTION THAT CAME OUT OF THERE, BUT THERE WERE ALSO OTHER SOLUTIONS REGARDING PAYMENT MARKETING LESS, WE'LL CALL LESS EXPENSIVE SOLUTIONS, RIGHT.
BENEFITS, WHERE ARE WE? DO WE, DO WE HAVE PLANS FOR ANY OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS? SO THE MAIN WAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME OF THOSE, UH, FUNDED, ENABLED CONSTRUCTED IS THROUGH DEVELOPMENT.
IF THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT COMING ALONG THAT'S GONNA BE DOING ANY ROAD WIDENING WHILE WE'RE ASKING 'EM TO CONSIDER PUTTING IN THE, THE EXON RUMBLE STRIPS THAT WERE PART OF THAT STUDY, ANY SIGNAGE, ANY OTHER STRIPING THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A RECOMMENDATION OUT OF THAT STUDY.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CONTINUOUSLY HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH IS PEOPLE SEEK TO REZONE PROPERTY AND DEVELOP FOR WHOEVER USE.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE CONTINUALLY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH WE OUT, AGAIN OUT OF THE SSYP FUNDS IS CAN WE ESSENTIALLY EARMARK SOME OF THAT FOR EDGE LINE RUMBLES STRIPPING ON A CERTAIN PORTION OF IT THAT WE DEEMED THAT MAY HAVE A LITTLE MORE SAFETY HAZARDS THAN MAYBE ANOTHER PORTION OF TON'S ROAD.
SO WE'RE ALWAYS HAVING THAT CONVERSATION.
WE, WHEN WE DID THE RUMBLE STRIPS ON WITH THE CENTER LINE ON MM-HMM.
SO I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IT'S, IT'S NOT A CANDIDATE FOR CENTER LINE SCRIPTS BECAUSE IT'S TOO NARROW.
YOU DON'T WANNA PUSH PEOPLE TO THE EDGE.
SO IT'S BETTER FERRON ROAD IS BETTER SUITED FOR AN EDGE LINE RUMBLE STRIP.
BUT TO ALSO DO THAT, WE HAVE TO WIDEN THE SHOULDER WITH WHAT'S CALLED TRENCH WIDENING.
SO WE HAVE TO ADD THE WIDTHS TO THEN PUT THE RUMBLE STRIP ON.
SO SAME, SAME TYPE OF QUESTION.
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UM, SORT OF UNEARTHED A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT POTENTIAL CHANGES, RIGHT? SO HOW ARE WE TAKING THESE STUDIES AND MOVING THEM ONTO LISTS HERE WOULD BE SOMETHING I'M CURIOUS ABOUT.UM, SO WE CAN JUST WITH THAT LY UM, AND THE LAST THING IS IS JUST FOR YOUR Y'ALL'S IDENTIFICATION.
SO, UM, WE TALKED IN THE LAST SESSION WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD ABOUT INVESTMENTS AND REVENUE GENERATING.
UM, I THINK AUSTIN'S ROLE SPECIFICALLY IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A FEW MONTHS ONTO THE BOARD.
CURRENT DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR SAID WE NEED SOMEBODY THAT COULD DO THIS FULL THING.
AND SO WE HAD NOT BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL WITH OUR APPLICATIONS.
NOW CDQ WAS IN EXISTENCE, BUT EVEN THEN WE HAD HAD SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS.
SO INVESTING IN FOLKS THAT CAN DO THIS SUCH AS AUSTIN.
I KNOW AUSTIN DOES MAKE 134 MILLION IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
SO JUST, JUST IN LINE AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETS, THERE ARE, THERE ARE PLACES WHERE WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE, WE CAN IT PAY DIFFERENCE, IT'S GREAT RETURN ON INVESTORS.
UH, ADDING TO THE LIST AND IT'S PROBABLY BEEN ON THE LIST.
BUT I HAVE CONSTITUENTS THAT WANT IT RE-EXPLORED THE HAYESVILLE, UH, TWO 50 INTERCHANGE, LIKE THAT WHOLE CORRIDOR WITH THE, UH, THEY WANT A SPEED LIMIT REDUCTION STUDY OR SOMETHING, OR SOME ACTION I GUESS TAKEN, I KNOW THERE WAS A STUDY DONE I GUESS THINKING ABOUT TOWARDS AVER GEORGE TAVERN.
THAT ONE CAME UP AS WELL, BUT OKAY.
SPECIFICALLY IT WAS JUST A SPEED STUDY DONE FOR GEORGIA'S TAVERN.
BUT THAT'S ONE I'LL, I'LL REAPPROACH YOU NOT ABOUT.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S BEEN ON THE PRIORITY LIST, BUT THAT'S ONE GOAL.
AND, AND THOSE TYPES OF, FOR, FOR THE BOARD'S KNOWLEDGE, THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS ARE SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAKE IT UP HERE.
THOSE ARE ALMOST TO USE THE CONVERSATION THAT HAD EARLIER MORE OF THE OPERATING REALM BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF LOW COST.
UM, MORE OR LESS ONE OF THE MALE PROJECTS.
THESE ARE KIND OF THE BIG ALMOST CIP WORTHY PROJECTS.
UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL, WE'LL CERTAINLY BRING UP.
MR. CARPENTER, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS AUDIENCE QUESTION OR AFTER THE MEETING QUESTION THE DISTRICT FIVE TOWN HALL, BUT THE RIVER ROAD, MONON COUNTRY CLUB, ROUTE SIX, FIVE WAY INTERCHANGE.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN AT THE, UH, WEST OAK
I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE WEST OAK WHERE IT CAME UP.
WELL, IT ALSO CAME UP GOOD BAPTIST, I NOTICED MENTION.
AS LONG AS WE'RE ADDING THINGS TO YOUR NEVER ENDING LIST, I, I WOULD, UH, OFFER THAT UP AS SOMETHING THAT I'M HERE FOLKS SAY THEY LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF SOLUTION.
SOLUTION AND THEN THE EVER POPULAR HAUNTED ROAD ROUTE SIX.
AND I'M JUST, I'M JUST GONNA ANSWER YOUR TURN TO, WELL MY DRIVEWAY
I BELIEVE MR. CARPENTER WOULD LIKE TO ACTUALLY, I'D LIKE, UM, WITH CHARLIE, OH WAIT, CHARLIE, YOU STILL THERE? I'M STILL HERE, YEAH.
HOW'S BUCKY'S? I HAVEN'T HIT IT.
UM, I COULD ACTUALLY, UM, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO THE BOARD, UM, AND, AND MS. SHERRY WILL DO SO, OUR, UH, OUR NEWEST, UH, HIRE TO THE COUNTY STAFF, UH, PRINCIPAL PLANNER.
UM, I'M PLEASED TO INTRODUCE YOU TO RAMSEY FARHAT.
HE COMES TO US FROM CALIFORNIA MOST RECENTLY.
UM, RAMSEY HAS QUITE AN IMPRESSIVE, UH, BACKGROUND.
HE HAS AN ARCHITECTURE BACKGROUND, A STATISTIC BACKGROUND, AND MOST RECENTLY AN URBAN PLANNING BACKGROUND WHERE AT THE UNIVERSITY THAT HE WORKED FOR, HE ACTUALLY DID SOME CONSULTING AND YEAH, HE HAS QUITE A BIT OF, UH, TOOLS THAT WE PLAN TO USE, UH, IN THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS.
THANK YOU, UH, JAMIE FOR THE WARM INTRODUCTION.
UM, I THINK WAS QUITE CIRCUITOUS THAT, UH, THIS WORKSHOP WAS HAPPENING TODAY WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, A GREAT OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE, UH, ISSUES THAT ARE, UH, FACING THE COUNTY AND SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT I'M SURE I'LL BE INVOLVED IN.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, WORKING WITH EVERYBODY ON, UH, ON THE GREAT WORK I'D LOVE TO HAVE.
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WITH THIS BOARD MEMBERS, WE ARE ALMOST AT FULL STAFF, SOMETHING, WHICH FOR MY ENTIRE TENURE HAS NOT HAPPENED AND BEFORE THAT, SO, UM, GOOD, GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING.[III. Citizen Comment]
WE GO, I WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT WE HAVE,[IV. Reminder of Remaining Town Halls]
UH, TWO REMAINING, UH, COMMUNITY MEETINGS.ONE IS TONIGHT RIGHT HERE, WHICH
[1. Districts 2 & 3, Monday, March 18, 6:00 p.m., County Administration Building, Board Meeting Room 250, 1800 Sandy Hook Rd., Goochland]
REPRESENTS DISTRICT TWO AND THREE.UH, THAT'LL BE AT SIX O'CLOCK.
GUY IN THE, UH, FOUR, FOUR SUPERVISORS.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE, UH, DISTRICT
[2. District 4, Monday, March 25, 6:00 p.m., Salem Baptist Church, 465 Broad Street Rd., Manakin]
FOUR, UH, ON MONDAY, MARCH 25TH, 6:00 PM AT SALEM BAPTIST CHURCH.UH, WE WILL NOW THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
WE'LL GO INTO ADJOURNMENT UNTIL TUESDAY,
[V. Adjournment]
APRIL 2ND FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR AFTER MEET AFTERNOON MEETING, UH, TO BE DETERMINED.UM, AND THEN APRIL 16TH, THE COUNTY BUDGET ADOPTION TO BE DETERMINED AS FAR AS THE TIME.
AND THEN THE 6:00 PM PUBLIC HEARING MEETING IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC MEETING.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE WILL ADJOURN.