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DEVELOPMENT.[I. Call to Order, 5:30 P.M.]
MEETING.MADAM ECONOMIC DIRECTOR AND SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL MS.
[II. Determination of a Quorum]
A QUORUM.[III. Citizen Comment]
THERE ANYONE ONLINE WITH EITHER? NO.AND, UH, WE HAVE AT LEAST ONE MEMBER, WELL, I DON'T KNOW, CALL HIM A MEMBER OF THE, UH, PUBLIC.
BUT, UH, OUR SUPERVISOR, DISTRICT FIVE, I'M NOT, SO, I GUESS I BETTER BE PUBLIC.
UH, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU FOLKS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
UM, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE, UH, DRAMATIC, BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COMMERCIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTY'S NEAR FUTURE AS WELL AS LONG TERM FUTURE.
UM, I AM UNAPOLOGETICALLY GOING TO BE A BURR UNDER YOUR SALARY ASKING YOU FOLKS TO REALLY GET OUR COMMERCIAL BUSINESS BASE, TAX BASE HIGHER.
UH, THAT WAS, UH, FRANCIS, UH, AND, AND, UH, CHAIRMAN SLOAN AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS THAT, UH, DATA CENTERS ARE, ARE EXTREMELY, UH, DU JOUR.
THERE'S A LOT OF ACTIVITY GOING ON.
I BELIEVE WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS DEVELOPMENTAL PHASE, BUT I DON'T WANT US TO BE A LATE ADAPTER.
I THINK WE'RE NOT AN EARLY ADAPTER.
WE'RE GONNA BE, WE'RE NOT A PIONEER.
WE'RE GONNA BE EARLY ADAPTERS, I HOPE.
AND, AND SO I WANNA SAY, JUST AS AN INDIVIDUAL AND WHO IS ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT I INDIVIDUALLY CAN BE DOING, AND I MIGHT REPRESENT THE REST OF THE BOARD THAT WE CAN BE DOING TO FACILITATE YOUR EFFORTS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
I, YOU, YOU CAN CALL ANY OF US ON THE BOARD, AND I GUARANTEE YOU'LL GET A RECEPTIVE CONVERSATION GOING.
BUT I, I, UH, I, I AM JUST, I HAVE JUST COME THROUGH THE BUDGET.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US CUTTING TAXES, UH, WHERE POSSIBLE.
AND TO DO THAT, WE NEED A BIGGER PIE, A BIGGER WORM THAT'S BEEN, UH, SUGGESTED IN ONE OF THE ONLINE, UH, POSTINGS THAT IF WE HAVE MORE TO SPREAD AROUND, WE CAN COVER OUR NECESSARY OPERATIONS AND, AND, UH, CUT TAXES, WHICH I LIKE TO THINK FOLKS CAN KEEP THEIR MONEY AND DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT BETTER THAN EVEN WELL-INTENTIONED INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS MYSELF.
SO WHATEVER I CAN DO TO HELP YOU FOLKS, I, I, I'M HERE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
I DON'T WANT TO OVER PROMISE, BUT I PROMISE YOU THAT I WILL PAY ATTENTION AND DO THE BEST I CAN WITH WHAT I'VE GOT.
I APPRECIATE Y'ALL SHARE THAT.
WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND BEING INTERESTED IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
YOU CAN I ADD, COULD I ADD SOMETHING TO THAT? SURE.
UM, WE, WE, UH, SEVERAL TIMES HAVE HAD THE DISCUSSION, UM, AND MY, MY PERSONAL CONCERN OR, OR BARRIERS OF THE COUNTIES, UM, COMPETITIVE PRICE FOR LAND RELATIVE TO OTHER COUNTIES NEIGHBORING, AND ALSO ACCESS TO UTILITIES, IS ANOTHER, UH, RESTRICTION THAT WE'RE HAVING, UH, ISSUES WITH AS FAR AS ATTRACTING COMPANIES, UH, RELATIVE TO WHAT, UM, THE NEIGHBORING COUNTIES ARE, ARE ACCOMPLISHING.
SO WE DO HAVE THOSE OBSTACLES THAT ARE, IT'S KIND OF LIKE DOMINION SAYS, WELL, IF YOU, IF YOU GET THE A CONTRACT SIGNED, YOU WANT A COMPANY TO COME IN, WE'LL GET IT THERE.
BUT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, WHAT, 36 TO 48 MONTHS FOR POWER? AND THAT'S KIND OF OUT THE, OUT OF THE RANGE.
SO WE MAY BE REACHING OUT TO, TO THE COUNTY FOR SOME, UH, SUPPORT REGARDING THE PLANNING OR EXPANSION OF THESE ORDERS THAT I KNOW IT'S NOT A FAVOR, I WILL NOT RESPOND.
BUT EVEN THOUGH I WOULD LOVE TO, AND I WILL ASSUME THAT YOU DON'T WISH TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, YOUR CARE STRICTLY FOR OUR TRAINING.
UH, WE WILL CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.
[IV. Approval of Minutes: Economic Development Authority - Regular Meeting - Mar 20 2024 5:30 PM]
AGENDA IS APPROVAL.THE MINUTES FROM OUR MARCH 20TH, 2024 MEETING.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR CONSIDERATION? I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH MEETING.
UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES HEARING? NO DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE STATE AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THANK YOU.
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AND I, I'M GOING TO DEVIATE A LITTLE BIT FROM THE SCHEDULED MATTERS, AND I THINK THE FIRST THING WE REALLY WANNA SAY IS[V. Scheduled Matters]
WELCOME.IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU ON THE DDA AND LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING WITH YOU.
I THINK IT'LL BE A GREAT TIME.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING, UH, AS I KNOW THIS IS FIRST TIME
WELL, I, I'LL JUMP IN AND JUST SAY TO THE OTHER, UH, EDA MEMBERS WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW MS. WOODS'S EXPERIENCE.
SHE DOES BRING A WIDE VARIETY TO THE EDA, INCLUDING OPENING A SMALL BUSINESS YOURSELF, UM, MARKETING AND LEGISLATIVE EXPERIENCE.
SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN BRING TO HELP US DO WHAT WE DO, GUYS.
AND PROBABLY DIVING IN YOU LEARNING CURVE, BUT YOU GET IT.
SO, MOVING ON TO TREASURY'S REPORT AND BEING THAT, UH, DB IS NOT HERE, AND WE DO
[A. Treasurer's Report]
HAVE, UH, EVERYBODY'S SEEN THIS.[1. Bills to be Paid: Christian & Barton - $803.00]
ANY QUESTIONS THAT, UH, WE CAN ALWAYS DEVOLVE OVER TO OUR SECRETARY TO ANSWER OR, UH, WE CAN DISCUSS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.YES, WE DO HAVE THE ONE BILL THAT, UH, WE'LL NEED A MOTION FOR AND VOTE ON TO, UH, PAY CHRISTIAN MARTIN FOR SERVICES RENDERED.
SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, ANY COMMENTS, ANY QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO THE TREASURER'S REPORT? NOTHING HERE.
WELL, I'LL BOLDLY SAY HEARING NONE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ITEM, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF PAYMENT TO CHRISTIAN BARTON ON OUR COUNSEL FOR, I BELIEVE THIS IS A TRANSACTIONS DEALING WITH THE LAND.
AND, UH, I DID CONSIDER MOTION TO APPROVE THAT.
I MEAN, WE PAID BAR, UH, A TOTAL OF $803.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING? NO DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF PAYING CHRISTIAN BARTON THE AMOUNT OF EIGHT $3 FOR SERVICES RENDERED.
A ALL OPPOSED? AND THE ABSTENTIONS.
AND NEXT WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR YEAR TRAINING, WHICH IS A, ACTUALLY I'D LIKE TO OH, THAT'S RIGHT.
WHICH DIDN'T MAKE IT ON THE AGENDA.
THE, UM, OUR BAY COURT INSURANCE PROPOSAL AGAIN FOR THIS YEAR.
THE AMOUNT REMAINS THE SAME AS IT WAS LAST YEAR, UM, IN THE AMOUNT OF, WHERE DID THEY GO? NO, I DIDN'T SEE AN AMOUNT ON THERE.
SEE, YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING THE HANG OF IT.
UM, I WOULD JUST NEED A MOTION AND VOTE, UH, TO APPROVE PAYMENT OR YEAH.
YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND RENEW FOR NEXT YEAR? I'LL MOVE THAT.
WE GO AHEAD AND RENEW THE BAY CORP OF INSURANCE FOR 2024.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE OUT STAND ON SECOND.
AND IS THERE A DISCUSSION, AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE IS, UH, A CREDIT, IT'S, IT'S THE RIGHT CREDIT THAT GETS ADJUSTED.
AND, UH, ONE COMMENT THAT'S A MILLION DOLLARS LIABILITY.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S STILL WITHIN THE, THE REAL OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
SO I WAS JUST, UH, THINKING ABOUT THAT.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION HEARING? NO DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF PAYING OF VIRGINIA COURT THE AMOUNT OF $2,293 PLEASE STATE AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTION? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[B. FOIA Training]
UH, NOW MOVE ON TO, UH, OUR FOIA TRAINING.IS THAT PROPER NOT SECRETARY? YES.
I'M ALLIE JACKSON AND WELCOME JENNY.
I WORK, UM, IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT COUNTY ADMINISTRATION.
SO WE HAVE, UM, A THREE PERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY OFFICE.
TARA D'S, THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
I'M THE DEPUTY COUNTY ATTORNEY, AND WE
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HAVE A PARALEGAL, CHRISTINA NEIL.AND, UH, WE TRAIN A LOT OF, UM, WELL, WE TRY TO TRAIN EVERYONE IN THE COUNTY ON FOIA, EVEN THOUGH AGILE, WE MEN, SOME OF YOU, IT'LL BE A REMINDER.
SOME OF YOU ARE REQUIRED TO GET TRAINING, WHICH INCLUDES THE EDA AND THAT'S A NEW LAW SINCE 2020.
IT USED TO JUST BE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
'CAUSE USUALLY SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH LEGISLATION, RIGHT? BUT THEY, THEY MOVED, UM, THE EDA MEMBERS AUTHORITY MEMBERS INTO GETTING, UM, TRAINING.
AND SO WE'LL LEARN ABOUT THAT.
DO AN OVERVIEW OF FOIA, WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE.
WE'LL TALK ABOUT PUBLIC RECORDS AND PUBLIC MEETINGS, WHICH ARE THE TWO THINGS FOIA COVERS AND WHAT HAPPENS IF WE VIOLATED AND, AND SOME FURTHER REFERENCES FOR RESOURCES.
FEEL FREE TO ASK QUESTIONS AS WE GO ALONG, AS THEY COME UP.
SO FOIA IS ITS OWN CHAPTER OF THE VIRGINIA STATE CODE.
IT TALKS AND THE CHAPTER IS HOW TO CONDUCT BUSINESS IN VIRGINIA, GET VALUES, TRANSPARENCY OVER SECRECY.
SO YOU COULD ENTER, AND THEN THE SCALES WILL, A BALANCE WILL CHANGE.
AND THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO PROVIDE, UM, CITIZEN ACCESS TO GOVERNMENT RECORDS AND MEETINGS.
BECAUSE THE PROMISE IS THAT WE ARE DOING THE PUBLIC BUSINESS.
SO THEY, THESE, THESE LAWS HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 1960S.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY USED TO BE CALLED SUNSHINE LAWS OR MAYBE THEY STILL ARE IN SOME PLACES.
SO THAT'S OUR, UM, IN VIRGINIA, WE HAVE OUR OWN VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
AND SO THAT'S THE ACT WE'RE LEARNING ABOUT.
UM, YEAH, VIRGINIA SE FOIA COVERS RECORDS LIKE THESE, LIKE ALL YOUR AGENDA PACKET RECORDS, UM, ANY TEXT MESSAGES YOU GUYS HAVE ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS, WHICH MAYBE YOU DO OR DON'T.
UM, ANY EMAILS THAT YOU SEND, UM, YEAH, YOUR, YOUR MEETING MINUTES.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE YOUR RECORDS FOR THE EDA.
AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'RE AT AN EDA MEETING.
SO THIS IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
IT'S, IT'S BEING LIVE STREAMED.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIVE STREAMED, BUT ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, CAN COME IN AND WE'LL LEARN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GO INTO CLOSE MEETINGS AND HOW THAT HAS TO BE DONE.
SO WHO'S COVERED BY FOIA? WELL, IT'S VIRGINIA PUBLIC BODIES, UM, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
AND, UH, THIS ISN'T, THIS IS A PUBLIC BODY THAT SERVES GOOCHLAND.
AND SO THE EDA IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE PUBLIC BODIES THAT IS COVERED BY FOIA IN VIRGINIA.
I HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS DOWN THERE JUST FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED.
SO WE HAVE FIVE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, A SHERIFF OF THE CLERK OF COURT, COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE, THE TREASURER.
I ALWAYS MISS ONE WHEN I'M SAYING IN ORDER.
SO THERE, FOR PURPOSES OF FOIA, THEY'RE THEIR OWN PUBLIC BODY FOR THE RECORDS PORTION.
SO ANYONE, UM, CAN GO MAKE A FOIA REQUEST TO ANY OF THOSE OFFICES BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE A STATE HYBRID OFFICE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE HOUSED IN THE COUNTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SO THEY'RE THEIR OWN, THEY RESPOND TO THEIR OWN FOR FOIA REQUESTS USUALLY.
SORRY,
SO THE, THE TRAINING REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR LOCAL OFFICIALS AND FOR FOIA OFFICERS.
AND SO WHICH ONE ARE YOU GUYS? LOCAL OFFICIALS.
IT USED TO JUST BE THE ELECTED OFFICIALS, WHICH WAS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS.
AND THEN IN 2020 THEY ADDED, UM, THEY JUST CHANGED IT TO LOCAL OFFICIALS, BUT THEN ONLY ADDED THE EDA.
AND THEN THE FOIA OFFICERS ARE, UM, LISA B IF YOU'VE EVER INTERACTED WITH HER, SHE SENT YOU YOUR FORM EVERY YEAR.
YOUR CONFLICT OF INTEREST FORM.
UM, SHE IS THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, CLERK, OR, UH, DEPUTY CLERK, I GUESS TO BE TECHNICAL.
AND SHE'S THE COUNTY'S FOIA OFFICER FOR ALL OF GLAND COUNTY.
UM, LIKE I SAID, EACH CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICER HAS TO HAVE THEIR OWN, AND THERE'S, THERE'S LAWS, LIKE WE HAVE TO PUT THAT PERSON'S NAME ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.
LIKE A CITIZEN HAS TO BE ABLE TO GO TO YOUR, IT HAS TO BE ON THE FRONT PAGE OF YOUR WEBSITE.
YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO CLICK ON FOIA AND KNOW HOW TO SUBMIT A REQUEST.
SO WE COULD NEVER USE THE EXCUSE.
SO WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW, WHO TO CONTACT OR WE NEVER GOT IT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK WE'VE COVERED EVERYTHING ON THIS SLIDE EXCEPT, UM, SO FOR MS. WOOD, SO WE'RE DOING THIS TONIGHT TO TRY TO CATCH YOU WITHIN TWO MONTHS OF YOUR APPOINTMENT, WHICH WE'RE EASILY DOING, RIGHT? 'CAUSE YOU WERE JUST APPOINTED.
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YOU, SO THE REQUIREMENT IS ANY NEW MEMBER, UM, GET IT WITHIN TWO MONTHS OF, OF THEIR APPOINTMENT, AND THEN EVERY TWO YEARS AFTER THAT.AND I THINK LAST TIME WE DID IT WAS MAYBE IN JULY OR AUGUST.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE TWO YEARS TO THE DATE, JUST TO CALENDAR TWO YEARS WITHIN THE NEXT CALENDAR YEAR LATER.
SO WE'RE DOING IT RIGHT NOW IN 2024.
SO THAT WOULD'VE VIOLATED EVEN THOUGH WE'RE IN APRIL NOW.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE TOOK THE ONLINE TRAINING, DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT EVERY YEAR? YOU NO.
UM, YOU COULD DO IT ONLINE OR IN PERSON.
IF YOU ALL WANNA DO IT ONLINE AND, AND YOU PREFER THAT, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO IT LIKE THIS.
WE'RE HAPPY TO COME AND DO IT.
YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS, BUT IF YOU ALL WANNA DO IT ONLINE NEXT YEAR, UM, WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE SARAH SEND YOU UP THE LINKS FOR THAT.
SO MAYBE WE'LL MAKE A NOTE TO ASK THEM NEXT YEAR AND SEE IF ANYONE HASN'T DONE IT.
I THOUGHT WE HAD TO DO IT EVERY TWO YEARS.
TO ASK YOU GUYS IF YOU WANNA HAVE AN IN PERSON ONE OR IF YOU WANNA DO IT ONLINE.
'CAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, I ARE LIVE OR ONLINE.
UM, AND YEAH, THERE'S NO PENALTY IF YOU DON'T COMPLETE IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO REPORT YOUR TRAINING LIKE WE DO FOR OTHER BOT.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY A PENALTY, BUT IT IS A REQUIREMENT OF LAW.
I GUESS IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY TEETH, BUT IT IS A REQUIREMENT.
ALRIGHT, SO THE FOYER OFFICER TRAINING, AGAIN, THIS IS FOR COUNTY STAFF, BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY ALSO HAVE TO BE TRAINED.
I ALREADY SAID WE, WE HAVE TO SAY WHO THE PERSON IS.
WE HAVE TO PUT THEIR NAME AND PHONE NUMBER ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE.
THERE HAS TO BE A LINK FROM THE HOMEPAGE OF THE COUNTY WEBSITE, WHICH THERE IS.
IF YOU GO TO THE VERY BOTTOM, IT SAYS FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
AND YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT LINK AND IT'LL TELL YOU, IT'LL SAY LISA B'S NAME AND HAVE OUR VOTING POLICY.
SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE COMPLYING WITH THE LAW.
UM, AND THEY HAVE TO ALSO BE TRAINED EVERY TWO YEARS.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE IN FOIA EVERY DAY.
SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY GETTING TRAINED, BUT THEY HAVE THE SAME REQUIREMENT AS YOU GUYS DO, EXCEPT THEY HAVE TO ACTUALLY REPORT TO THE STATE THAT THEY HAVE THEIR TRAINING.
AND YOU CAN GO, THE STATE HAS A FREEDOM INFORMATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN WEBSITE AND YOU CAN CLICK, IT SAYS FOIA OFFERS, AND YOU CAN CLICK ON THE LINK AND YOU CAN PUT IT ANY COUNTY AND ANY LOCALITY, AND IT WILL SHOW YOU THE LIST OF EVERY COUNTY'S FOIA OFFICER.
SO THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS FOR THE PUBLIC IF THEY HAVE, IF THEY DON'T KNOW WHO TO CONTACT, THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS TO GET TO WHO THE CONTACT IS FOR EVERY LOCALITY.
SO THEY DO HAVE TO REPORT IN, WHEREAS WE DON'T HAVE TO REPORT IT.
ALRIGHT, MOVING ON TO WHAT IS A PUBLIC RECORD.
LIKE I SAID, ALL OF YOUR DOCUMENTS HERE FOR YOUR AGENDAS, YOUR EMAILS THAT YOU SEND AND RECEIVE, THAT HAVING TO DO WITH EDA BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT YOUR PERSONAL EMAILS, UM, ANY, ANYTHING THAT'S IN THE TRANSACTION OF WHAT YOU GUYS DO ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO, UH, WHAT, WHAT IS SOMETHING YOU DO EVERY DAY? THAT WOULDN'T BE A PUBLIC RECORD.
IT WOULDN'T CREATE A RECORD TALK.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHY THERE'S STILL A LOT OF VALUE IN, UH, PICKING UP THE PHONE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHEN, UM, THERE MIGHT BE TIMES THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT.
THE LAW HAS NEVER HELD THAT, LIKE EMAILING BACK AND FORTH AS A PUBLIC MEETING.
BUT WITH ALL THE NEW STYLES OF COMMUNICATION AND INSTANT MESSAGES AND TEXTING, IT'S THE CLOSER YOU GET TO HAVING LIKE A SIMULTANEOUS CONVERSATION OF THREE OR MORE OF YOU LOOK OVER THIS IN A MINUTE, UM, THAT WOULD BE LIKE IN A LEGAL MEETING.
SO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ALWAYS DON'T REPLY ALL, EVEN SARAH CAN SEND SOMETHING TO YOU ALL.
OR IF IT'S JUST ADMINISTRATIVE, YOU KNOW, YOU USE A LITTLE BIT OF JUDGMENT, BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A DEAL OR A CERTAIN PROJECT, YOU WANNA EMAIL ONE-ON-ONE OR CALL EACH OTHER, UM, DEFINITELY NOT THIS GROUP DISCUSSION OF ALL FIVE OF YOU EMAILING BACK AND FORTH ABOUT A PROJECT OR EDA BUSINESS THAT'S BEST PRACTICE.
LIKE I SAID, THAT'S STILL NOT BEEN HELD TO BE A MEETING 'CAUSE EMAILS AREN'T SIMULTANEOUS.
BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND, YOU'RE CREATING A PUBLIC RECORD TOO.
AND ANYONE COULD ASK FOR THOSE EMAILS.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE PERCEPTION OF MAYBE, HEY, WHY WOULD YOU BE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION THERE INSTEAD OF AT A PUBLIC MEETING? SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF FOIA IS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY IN OUR PUBLIC REPUTATION.
I THINK WE, ANY QUESTIONS ON IF SOMETHING IS A PUBLIC RECORD THAT YOU'RE NOT SURE ABOUT? DO YOU GUYS TEXT ABOUT EDA STUFF? SARAH REMINDS ME.
IF I MIX UP TO A, TO A, A MEETING, I SENT YOU AN EMAIL.
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BUT NO, WE'RE ALL VERY, AND THEY'RE ALL THE PERSONAL PHONES, RIGHT? YES.SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE COUNTY PHONES, IT WOULD BE ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU'D NOT USE IT FOR EVA BUSINESS, YOU'RE TEXTING.
BUT IF YOU WERE TO THAT YOU TOOK A SCREENSHOT OR JUST DIDN'T DELETE IT, I MEAN, WHO WOULD KNOW THAT YOU DID IT? BUT IF WE WERE TO GET A REQUEST, WE JUST WOULD NEVER WANNA BE IN THE POSITION OF I CAN'T PRODUCE IT.
AND IF IT'S ON YOUR PERSONAL DEVICE, I, I CAN'T ACCESS THAT.
UM, IF IT'S IN YOUR EMAIL, WE CAN JUST HAVE IT ON A SEARCH OF ALL YOUR EMAIL.
'CAUSE Y'ALL HAVE COUNTY EMAIL OR EBA EMAIL.
HISTORICALLY, THEY HAVE NOT REALLY WORKED.
BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY SENDING STEP TO AND FROM YOU.
AND SO I COULD GET IT THAT WAY, COULD GET IT FROM ME.
BUT MAYBE IF IT WAS LIKE, BETWEEN, BETWEEN EACH OTHER AND THAT WAS YOUR PERSONAL EMAILS, I BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
BUT I DON'T THINK YOU GET, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD ANY FILE REQUESTS.
WE, LIKE I SAID, WE DEAL WITH EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M SEARCHING EMAILS AND BOARD MEMBERS AND EMAILING ABOUT THIS AND THAT, SO THAT HAPPENS.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY UNLIKELY FOR YOU.
THESE ARE JUST BEST PRACTICES.
I, I THINK WE JUST COVERED THIS SLIDE.
SO AVOIDING REPLY ALL, IT'S THE CONTENT.
IT'S NOT THE EQUIPMENT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S YOUR PERSONAL PHONE.
IF IT WERE ABOUT BUSINESS, EEA BUSINESS, IT'S STILL A PUBLIC RECORD, EVEN THOUGH YOU DIDN'T USE A, A PUBLIC DEVICE.
WAYS TO REQUEST PUBLIC RECORDS.
UM, WE GET MOST OF OURS, I WOULD SAY BY EMAIL.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY SOMEONE COULD CALL PROBABLY CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS.
OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT THAT DOES ALL OF OUR BUILDING PERMITS AND ZONING APPLICATIONS.
THEY PROBABLY DO A LOT OF INFORMAL FOIA RESPONSES, I GUESS VIA PHONE CALL.
UM, CERTAINLY SOMEONE CAN STILL COME IN AND I THINK WE STILL HAVE FAX MACHINES, UM, OR THEY COULD MAIL IT IN, BUT WE GET MOST OF EVERYTHING, UM, THROUGH EMAIL.
AND USUALLY THEY'RE PRE, YOU JUST, YOU KNOW, SAY WHAT YOU WANT.
SO WE KNOW TO GO LOOK TO, TO GO LOOKING FOR IT IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER.
YEAH, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO SAY I'M MAKING A FOYER REQUEST.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE AS STAFF AND AS TRAINED PUBLIC OFFICIALS NEED TO RECOGNIZE WHEN SOMETHING IS A FOER REQUEST.
EVEN IF IT DOESN'T USE THOSE WORDS.
THERE'S NO MAGIC WORDS AND WE CAN'T ASK THEM WHY THEY WANT THE RECORDS OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF WE THINK, OH, THEY'RE JUST GONNA USE IT FOR THEIR BUSINESS PURPOSES.
LIKE I KNOW IT'S A HOUSE FLIPPER AND THEY'RE JUST WANTING, YOU KNOW, A LIST OF ALL PROPERTIES WITH CODE VIOLATIONS CURRENTLY, YOU KNOW, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO IT IS OR WHY THEY'RE ASKING.
WELL, IT DOES MATTER A LITTLE BIT WHO IT'S, MAYBE THAT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WHICH I'M READY TO GO TO.
SO VOYA APPLIES TO VIRGINIANS AND MEDIA.
SO IF WE DID GET A REQUEST, YOU KNOW, FROM SOMEONE OUT OF STATE, YOU KNOW, WE, VOYA DOESN'T APPLY TO THEM.
NOW, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GET SOMEONE IN STATE TO SEND US THE SAME REQUEST.
SO IT'S A POLICY DECISION ON WHETHER YOU WANNA, UM, REPLY TO OUT-OF-STATE REQUEST OR NOT.
FOR US, THIS HAPPENS A LOT, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE DEVELOPING PROPERTY, LET'S SAY THEY'RE DOING THEIR PHASE ONE OR PHASE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTS AND THEY HIRE LIKE A TIMMONS, AND FOR SOME REASON IT'S LIKE THE TIMMONS IN ILLINOIS, UH, OR SOMETHING.
AND WE'LL GET A REQUEST LIKE THAT, OR A, I THINK WE GOT ONE YESTERDAY FROM DEBERRY, BUT IT WASN'T A DEBERRY IN VIRGINIA.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY.
ALL WE KNOW, ALL WE HAVE WORK, WE HAVE THEM UNDER CONTRACT.
WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE JUST GONNA TURN AROUND AND HAVE A VIRGINIA PERSON.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL RESPOND TO THAT.
UM, BUT IT FITS, YOU KNOW, JUST, I'M, I'M DOING A POLL.
I AM DOING A PROJECT AND WE HAVE A STANDARD RESPONSE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE FOLLOW FOIA AND FOIA APPLIES TO VIRGINIA, SO WE WON'T BE RESPONDING TO YOUR REQUEST, BUT WE GIVE THEM THE CODE SECTION SO THEY CAN CLEARLY SEE, YOU KNOW, ALL I HAVE TO DO IS FIND SOMEONE TO, TO RESUBMIT IT.
UM, THE FOIA COUNCIL, THE STATE BODY, UM, THEY, THEY SAY BEST PRACTICES IS TO GO AHEAD AND RESPOND TO OUT-OF-STATE REQUESTS JUST FOR CONSISTENCY.
BUT THEN YOU JUST REMEMBER LIKE ALL THE TIMELINES WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE THAN THEY WOULDN'T APPLY TO THOSE.
SO FOR ME, THAT IS HARDER TO REMEMBER.
THIS ONE IS UNDER FOY AND THIS ONE'S NOT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR GENERAL GUIDANCE, ALRIGHT, ONTO THE TIMELINES.
LIKE I SAID, YOU GUYS REALLY AREN'T DEALING WITH THIS, BUT THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT AS YOU KNOW, US, MAYBE YOU ON A FOIA REQUEST YOURSELF, MAYBE ONE OR TWO OF YOU.
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THE TIMELINE FOR THE RESPONSES YOU CAN REST.WE, WE EXPECT TO RECEIVE, WE HAVE TO RESPOND WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS.
THE FIRST DAY STARTS THE DAY AFTER WE GET IT.
EVEN IF WE NEED MORE, THERE'S ONE WAY WE CAN GET MORE TIME.
AND THAT'S SEVEN DAYS MORE TIME.
UM, WE STILL HAVE TO RESPOND WITHIN THE FIVE DAYS TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO SEARCH OUR RECORDS.
WE'VE DONE THAT LIKE ONCE OR TWICE.
MAYBE THE, THE EMPLOYEE THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO GET THE RECORDS WAS ON VACATION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, REALLY WHERE REALLY RARE WE USUALLY RESPOND WITHIN THE SAME DAY OR TWO DAYS.
WE JUST LIKE TO GET HIM OFF OUR SLATE REALLY QUICKLY.
UM, IN FACT, I MEAN, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO WE GOT A REQUEST FOR A CONTRACT AND WE HAD THE RESPONSE READY TO GO THE SAME DAY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS THE NEXT MORNING BY THE TIME WE GOT IT OUT AND YOU KNOW, IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE LIKE SOMEONE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN IN ALBEMARLE COUNTY.
HE'S LIKE, THAT'S, THIS IS THE FASTEST FOYERS ONCE I'VE EVER GOTTEN, I'M SO I IMPRESSED.
LIKE, WE DON'T HAVE TO BE IMPRESSED, BUT I MEAN, JUST, WE GET COMMENTS LIKE THAT.
AND, UM, THERE IS A PLACE ON, ON VIRGINIA FOIAS COUNCIL WEBSITE THAT YOU CAN GO AND LEAVE LIKE COMMENTS.
YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE WHEN THEY COMMENT, THEY'RE NOT MAKING POSITIVE COMMENTS.
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, IT'S A REPUTATION MANAGEMENT, UM, PROCESS AGAIN, BECAUSE THERE ARE AGENCIES OUT THERE LIKE FOIA WATCH AGENCIES AND THEN THEY'LL PUT YOU ON, UM, IF YOU READ THE PAPER, LIKE THE RICHMOND TIMES DISPATCH, UM, HAD SOME PRETTY SC ARTICLES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED RECENTLY WITH, UM, THEIR FOIA OFFICER AND, AND THE CITY NOT WANTING TO TURN OVER RECORDS OR LIKE COMING UP WITH SOME EXORBITANT FEE, UM, FOR SOMEONE TO GET RECORDS.
SO WE, WE DON'T WANNA HAVE THOSE KIND OF HEADLINES IN GOOCHLAND, UM, WHICH WE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T.
SO, UM, YEAH, WE DON'T RESPOND WITHIN THE FIVE DAYS.
TECHNICALLY THAT'S A VIOLATION.
LIKE I SAID, WE, WE TRY FOR THAT TO NEVER HAPPEN.
UM, AND ONE THING, YOU KNOW, WITH STAFF IS, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE BE JUST ASKING QUESTIONS.
IT'S LIKE, WELL, IT'S HARD FOR STAFF TO REMEMBER.
NO, WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR A DOCUMENT THAT EXISTS.
LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE TO, OH, I DON'T WRITE A WRITE ON A, A NEW DOCUMENT, LIKE THE ANSWERS TO THEIR QUESTIONS.
THAT'S CREATING A WHOLE NEW RECORD THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST.
SO, SO THAT'S WHAT WE TRY TO FOCUS ON A LOT IN OUR STAFF TRAININGS.
LIKE WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT EXISTS THAT WILL ANSWER WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
IF THEY'RE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S A LITTLE, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
ALRIGHT, SO JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, THEY CAN GIVE 'EM ALL THE RECORDS.
IF WE WITHHOLD THE RECORDS, WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE, THE VIRGINIA CODE CITATION THAT APPLIES TO THAT SPECIFIC EXCEPTION IN THE LAW THAT SAYS WE CAN WITHHOLD THE RECORDS.
AND I WOULD SAY MAYBE IT'S ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO NOW.
IT USED TO BE THAT PEOPLE WOULD SAY, OH, THERE'S SOME CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION IN THERE, SO WE'RE WITHHOLDING THAT WHOLE RECORD.
WELL, THAT WENT TO COURT AND THEY SAID NO, AND WE JUST HAVE TO REDACT YOU.
YOU CAN'T WITHHOLD THE WHOLE RECORD IF SOME PARTS ARE CONFIDENTIAL AND SOME AREN'T.
SO THERE'S THIS WHOLE THING NOW THAT YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO TURN OVER THE RECORD.
UM, UNLESS THE WHOLE THING IS CONFIDENTIAL.
SO I ALWAYS THINK OF LIKE, I DON'T KNOW WHY I THINK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND YOU GET A DOCUMENT, YOU GET YOUR THING BACK AND IT'S LIKE ALL BLACK LINE AND THERE'S LIKE THE, AND, AND, BUT, UM, SO THAT'S JUST, UH, HOW I THINK ABOUT IT.
BUT, UM, YEAH, SO YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T GET OUT OF, UM, WITHHOLDING A WHOLE RECORD.
JUST LIKE A FEW WORDS OR A FEW NAMES ARE CONFIDENTIAL.
WE'D HAVE TO REDACT IT AND RELEASE IT.
I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR THAT, LIKE SOME OF THE EXEMPTIONS FOR RECORDS.
AND THEN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MEETINGS IN A MINUTE, YOU'LL HOPEFULLY SEE THE PARALLELS 'CAUSE THEY'RE REALLY THE SAME THING JUST IN TWO DIFFERENT FORMATS.
UM, TECHNICALLY YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANY PERSONNEL BECAUSE MS. WORLEY IS A COUNTY EMPLOYEE, SO YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANY EMPLOYEES.
SO YOU WOULD, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PERSONNEL RECORDS, WHICH IS GREAT.
UM, COUNTY HAS A LOT OF PERSONNEL RECORDS.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WITHHOLD.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN WITHHOLD.
UM, ANYTHING, A LOT OF COMMUNICATIONS, MOST COMMUNICATIONS WITH OUR OFFICE OR IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME TYPE OF LITIGATION.
UM, ANYTHING THAT SARAH'S PREPARING FOR A QUOTE FOR YOU GUYS TO MEET ENCLOSED MEETING.
THAT'S SOMETHING IF YOU GOT A FOIA REQUEST, UM, THAT YOU, THAT AN EXEMPTION APPLIES AND YOU CAN WITHHOLD THAT ALL OF IT BECAUSE THAT THERE'S AN EXEMPTION FOR CLOSED MEETING DOCUMENTS.
NOW IF THAT SAME, IF YOU HAVE A DOCUMENT IN YOUR CLOSED MEETING PACKET, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A WHOLE PACKET AND THERE'S ONE DOCUMENT IN THERE THAT'S ALREADY PUBLIC DOCUMENT, YOU CAN'T WITHHOLD THAT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.
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COST SUBMITS A BILL.PROPERTY CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS.
MOST, MOST OF THESE PROBABLY MAYBE YOU GUYS DO.
YEAH, MAYBE YOU GUYS DO DO SOME OF THESE.
UM, I THREW TAXPAYER INFORMATION IN THERE TODAY.
IT'S NOT, MAYBE NOT ONE THAT YOU GUYS HAVE, BUT YOU SEE WHERE THAT, THAT ASTERISK IS AT THE TOP.
IT'S LIKE IT'S EXCLUDED FROM MANDATORY, BUT, UM, RELEASE, BUT YOU HAVE DISCRETION TO DISCLOSE.
IT ALWAYS HAS THAT CAVEAT UNLESS OTHERWISE PROHIBITED BY LAW.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU REALLY HAVE TO KNOW AS FOIA OFFICERS FOIA, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF, UNLESS OTHERWISE PROHIBITED BY LAWS, UM, AND TAXPAYER RECORDS IS ONE OF THEM.
SO LIKE THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUES OFFICE AND THE TREASURER, BOTH CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, YOU, YOU REALLY CAN'T GET MUCH OUT OF THEIR OFFICE.
'CAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH IS TAXPAYER INFORMATION.
SO, AND RELEASING THAT INFORMATION KIND BECAUSE LIKE A CRIMINAL PENALTY.
UM, WHEN SOMETHING'S, WHEN WE HAVE THE DISCRETION, WE, WE USUALLY ERR ON THE SIDE OF WITHHOLDING RATHER THAN RELEASING SO SOMEONE DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENTALLY FALL INTO ONE OF THESE CRIMINAL PENALTY RELEASES.
AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER EXCEPTIONS.
IF YOU'RE SUPER CURIOUS, WE CAN SEND THIS TO YOU AND YOU CAN CLICK ON THAT LINK AND READ ABOUT
ALRIGHT, SO CHARGES FOR RECORDS.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN CHARGE FOR RECORDS, BUT IT HAS TO BE, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE.
IT HAS TO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE LIKE THREE DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES THAT THAT COULD DO IT.
YOU, YOU, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO USE THE ONE WITH THE LOWEST HOURLY RATE AND TRYING NOT TO MAKE IT SO EXORBITANT.
UM, AND THIS IS JUST OUT THERE.
LIKE I SAID, YOU GUYS REALLY DON'T DO THIS.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, GLAND COUNTY'S PRACTICE, WE RARELY EVER CHARGE FOR EMPLOYEE REQUEST.
I MEAN, IF IT'S SOMETHING REALLY HUGE THAT TOOK A LOT OF TIME, MAYBE, MAYBE WE WOULD, BUT I DON'T, I'VE BEEN HERE OVER FIVE YEARS AND I, I'VE NEVER HAD TO ASK FOR THE $200 DEPOSIT FROM ANYONE.
IF IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN AN HOUR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHICH MOST OF THEM DO, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE TO DO LIKE A DEEP DIVE AND YOU KNOW, IT HAS TO SEARCH SOME RECORDS AND IT INVOLVES MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE WILL ASK FOR THEIR HOUR, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HOURS OF TIME, $50 OR LESS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND IF SOMEONE, IF WE DID CHARGE, IF SOMEONE DIDN'T PAY THEIR BILL, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT PERSON'S REQUEST UNTIL THEY PAY THEIR BILL.
LIKE I SAID, THAT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED HERE.
BUT, UH, THAT, THAT LAW IS OUT THERE.
ALL RIGHT, SO THE NEXT SLIDE IS FOIA MYTHS, WHICH REALLY WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
UM, IT PROVIDES ACCESS TO RECORDS.
IT DOESN'T REQUIRE US TO, YOU KNOW, ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, GET INTERVIEWS, PROVIDE EXPLANATIONS ABOUT WHY THIS WAS DONE THIS WAY AND NOT THAT WAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID, BUT IT'S FREE 'CAUSE IT'S FOIA.
OUR, OUR COUNTY PRACTICE IS REALLY, WE RARELY CHARGE.
UM, AND THE EXEMPTIONS, LIKE I'M MENTIONING, THEY DON'T PROHIBIT THE RELEASE.
THEY'RE JUST SAYING THAT, HEY, IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE YOU CAN, YOU CAN WITHHOLD IT IF YOU CHOOSE TO.
EXCEPT THOSE ONES THAT ARE PROHIBITED BY LAW, THAT'S ALWAYS OUT THERE.
AND UM, YEAH, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SAY FOIA.
SO LIKE I WOULD CALL THAT INFORMAL REQUEST, YOU KNOW, AND US STAFF JUST RECOGNIZING, HEY, THEY'RE ACTUALLY REQUESTING SOME RECORDS, BUT NO, YOU KNOW, NO ONE HAS TO SAY IT.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE FOIL LAW DOESN'T APPLY.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE TIMELINES DON'T APPLY.
SO NOW JENNY, DO YOU HAVE A BACKGROUND IN, I THINK LISA BE LIKE, DO YOU HAVE A BACKGROUND? LIKE DO YOU WORK WITH THE STATE AGENCY OR? SO I'M A LEGISLATIVE ASSISTANT FOR HERE.
SO YOU LIKE, DO YOU KNOW A LOT OF FOIA STUFF?
OKAY, WELL PIPE IN LIKE ANYTHING'S I KNOW, DIFFERENT OR UNIQUE OR DIFFERENT.
I JUST KNOW WHO TO ASK QUESTIONS TO.
THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW THE PERSON.
SO YEAH, I MEAN IT'S ANY TIME THAT THREE OR MORE OF YOUR PUBLIC BODY IS TOGETHER, THAT'S, THAT'S A MEETING.
AND SO THAT COMES WITH A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS THAT HAD TO HAVE NOTICE IN ADVANCE.
UM, AND THERE'S PLACES WHERE THE NOTICES HAVE TO BE AND THINGS THAT THE NOTICE HAS TO SAY.
AND OF COURSE SARAH HANDLES ALL THAT FOR YOU.
AND IT'S OUT ON OUR, ON THE PUBLIC WEBSITE.
THERE'S A FEW LITTLE, YOU KNOW, A FEW MINOR EXCEPTIONS THERE IN BLUE.
ALL THREE OF YOU, OR THREE OR THREE OF YOU DON'T WANNA BE AT THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME.
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YOU'RE NOT GONNA SIT NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND EVEN TALK TO EACH OTHER IN A, IT DEPENDS ON, DEPENDS LIKE IF YOU'RE AT A FUNERAL, NO.OR, UM, WHAT ARE THESE? SO CANDIDATE FORUM, UM, SOMETHING THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BUT PUBLIC BUSINESS.
BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU WERE OUT LOOKING AT A SITE OR SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THE THREE OF YOU CAN'T BE TOGETHER WITHOUT UM, PUBLIC NOTICE OF A MEETING.
OTHERWISE IT'S AN ILLEGAL BOARD MEETING.
UM, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE IT IN THIS SETTING.
I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO CLOSED MEETINGS, WHICH I THINK YOU DO NOT HAVE AN AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE EDA DOES, YOU KNOW, HAVE FREQUENT OCCASION TO GO INTO A CLOSED MEETING BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF, UM, BUSINESS TRANSACTIONS THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING.
AND SO THERE'S A SPECIFIC PROCESS UNDER THE STATE LAW HOW YOU CAN GO INTO A CLOSED MEETING AND YOU HAVE TO, I THINK WE'RE ONTO THE NEXT SLIDE.
EVEN START IN A, IN AN OPEN MEETING LIKE THIS, YOU CAN'T JUST START IN A CLOSED MEETING 'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO START IN AN OPEN MEETING.
SO YOU SAY ON THE RECORD TO THE PUBLIC THAT YOU'RE GOING INTO THE CLOSED MEETING AND THEN YOU SAY THESE THREE THINGS, WHY YOU'RE GOING INTO THE CLOSED MEETING.
AND THEN, THEN YOU CAN GO INTO YOUR CLOSED MEETING AND THAT WOULD BE OFF THE CAMERA AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE MINUTES IN THERE.
AND THEN RIGHT AFTER THE CLOSED MEETING IS OVER, YOU HAVE TO COME OUT BACK INTO THE PUBLIC MEETING AND DO YOUR CERTIFICATION PROCESS THAT EVERYTHING YOU, YOU GUYS TALKED ABOUT IN THE CLOSED MEETING IS WHAT EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UM, IN THE MOTION OF GOING INTO THE CLOSED MEETING AND EVERYONE VOTES YES OR NO ON THAT.
IF SOMEONE FELT LIKE YOU DID IT, IF YOU STRAIGHT OFF TOPIC, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD SAY NO.
UM, BUT I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT HAPPEN.
SO HOPEFULLY EVERYONE WAS, UM, STAYING ON TOPIC IN THERE AND, AND JUST, JUST VERY INTERESTINGLY, AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU'RE DOING THIS, THAT VOTE WHEN YOU COME BACK OUT TO CERTIFY, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BY ROLL CALL BECAUSE THAT'S EVERY PERSON'S INDIVIDUAL CERTIFICATION OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY FELT THEY STAYED ON TOPIC IN THE CLOSED MEETING.
IT'S NOT VOTING ANYTHING UP OR DOWN, IT'S YOUR INDIVIDUAL CERTIFICATION.
THAT'S WHY THAT'S A ROLL CALL VOTE.
AND THEN IF YOU WERE GONNA TAKE ACTION ON SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE IN THE, IN THE OPEN MEETING.
YOU WOULD NEVER VOTE IN CLOSE MEETING.
SO THESE MUST COME UP LIKE MAYBE AS YOU KEEP HITTING ENTER, SO YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.
NOW THESE ARE SOME OF THE CLOSE MEETING EXCEPTIONS, WHICH I MENTIONED EARLIER.
REALLY PARALLEL THE RECORDS EXCEPTIONS, THEY'RE JUST TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET TO THE SAME THING.
YOU WILL NEVER HAVE A CLOSED MEETING, UH, FOR PERSONNEL SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
THE ONLY CLOSED MEETING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CAN HAVE FOR PERSONNEL, IT'S FOR TWO PEOPLE.
'CAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE TWO APPOINTED PEOPLE, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AND THE COUNTY ATTORNEY.
UM, SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITIES HAVE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THAT IS THEIR PERSONNEL.
SO WE'RE NOT SET UP THAT WAY GLAND.
BUT FOR EXAMPLE, HENRI IS SET UP THAT WAY AND THEY COULD GO INTO CLOSE MEETING FOR PERSONNEL.
SO THESE OTHER ONES YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH OR YOU BECOME FAMILIAR WITH, I THINK THESE MAYBE ARE THE ONES YOU GO WITH.
I THINK IT'S USUALLY THE RESPECTIVE BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY AND MAYBE LEGAL ADVICE.
UM, AND SARAH'S GOT ALL THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF DRAFT MOTIONS.
JUST PLUG IN THE DIFFERENT TOPIC.
WE'VE GOT ALL THE CODE SECTIONS IN THERE AND UM, THAT'S JUST HOW YOUR AGENDA READS AND IT'S ALL DONE FOR YOU.
JUST, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION.
THIS IS A CHANGE I WOULD SAY IN THE LEGISLATION.
I THINK, I THINK I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT IT IN 2022.
SO I THINK IT WAS IN THE 2022 GENERAL ASSEMBLY THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER LOOKED AT OTHER PUBLIC BODIES MEETINGS AND YOU WANTED TO FIND OUT IF THEY DID SOMETHING LIKE PASS THE BUDGET AND YOU WANTED TO LOOK AT THEIR MINUTES.
WELL, YOU WOULD GO BACK AND LIKE SOMETIMES THE MINUTES WON'T EVEN BE POSTED OR THEY'LL BE LIKE A YEAR BEHIND AND SO YOU REALLY CAN'T GET THE INFORMATION.
SO THEY PUT THIS IN THE STATE LAW THAT YOU HAVE TO POST ON YOUR WEBSITE WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF APPROVAL.
NOW THAT'S NOT WITHIN SEVEN DAYS OF THE MEETING OBVIOUSLY, BUT YOU USUALLY VOTE ON YOUR MINUTES LIKE YOU DID TONIGHT FROM THE LAST MEETING.
SO THEN NOW THAT THOSE WERE APPROVED TONIGHT FROM THE LAST MEETING WITHIN SEVEN DAYS, UM, THEY NEED TO BE POSTED ON THE PUBLIC WEBSITE.
AND I THINK SARAH, YOU EXPLAINED LAST YEAR THAT THEY'RE REALLY ALREADY OUT THERE IN DRAFT FORMAT AND THEY'LL JUST BE APPROVED.
UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE DEFINITELY COMPLIANT WITH THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S THE REASON THAT WAS ADDED TO, UH, THE LEGISLATURE RECENTLY.
UM, YEAH, THESE ARE THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE SECRET OR WRITTEN BALLOTS.
EVERYTHING IS IN THE PUBLIC AND YOU DEFINITELY CAN CONTACT
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EACH OTHER AND DEVELOPERS CAN CONTACT YOU INDIVIDUALLY OR APPLICANTS.LET'S SAY YOU HAVE LIKE A GRANT APPLICATION POOL OR SOMETHING BECAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GAVE YOU LOTS OF MONEY AND YOU KNOW, YOU COULD TALK TO THE APPLICANTS EACH, THEY COULD CALL EACH ONE OF YOU, BUT UM, NOT IN A GROUP SETTING AT THREE OR MORE UNLESS YOU WERE IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
AND JUST REMEMBER ALL THE EMAILS CREATE PUBLIC RECORDS.
LIKE I SAID, IF YOU, IF WE DON'T RESPOND WITHIN THE FIVE DAYS, OR LET'S SAY WE SAY WE DON'T HAVE ANY RESPONSIVE RECORDS AND THE PERSON KNOWS WE DO, OR SOME IN SOME WAY, THESE TYPES OF VIOLATIONS ARE GIVEN VERY HIGH PRIORITY IN THE COURT.
THEY'RE GONNA SCHEDULE A HEARING, WHICH WITHIN SEVEN DAYS, WHICH IS SUPER RARE FOR A COURT, RIGHT? UM, AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA GET THEIR CASE HEARD.
THIS IS USUALLY A CITIZEN AGAINST A LOCALITY SAYING EITHER YOU'RE, YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME WHAT I, OR YOU REDACTED TOO MUCH OR YOU DIDN'T RESPOND.
AND I KNOW YOU HAVE THE RECORD.
SO THERE'S FEES INVOLVED, UM, INCLUDING ATTORNEY'S FEES, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS NOT GOOD.
'CAUSE THAT CAN, THAT CAN REALLY BRACKET IT UP.
THOSE PRIVATE ATTORNEYS, THEY MAKE SO MUCH
UM, BUT REALLY AGAIN, IT WOULD HURT OUR REPUTATION.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS JUST NOWHERE WE EVER WANNA BE AND NOWHERE WE'VE EVER BEEN.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE DO THESE TRAININGS.
OF COURSE THIS ONE'S REQUIRED, BUT WE, WE TRY TO TRAIN ALL COUNTY STAFF JUST SO YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVEN HEAR OF SOMETHING.
LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T SAY FOIA AND THEY DON'T, THEY, THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING OR WHAT THEIR PROCESS IS.
BUT JUST SO EVERYONE'S AWARE TO, YOU KNOW, GET SOMETHING TO THE RIGHT PERSON.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT SURE YOU GOT AN EMAIL WHERE JUST GET IT TO SARAH FOR THE COUNTY AND GET IT TO LISA.
BE AND JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE, WE'RE WE KNOW OF REQUESTS.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T RESPOND TO SOMETHING WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT.
AND I THINK THE LAST SLIDE OH, ASSISTANCE.
YEAH, THERE'S UH, OH YEAH, OR SOMETHING THAT ONE DIDN'T PRINT FOR ME.
SO THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ADVISORY COUNCIL IS THE STATE, UM, AGENCY WEBSITE.
THE ONE WHERE I SAID YOU COULD CLICK, UM, YOU COULD GO SEE WHO ALL THE FOYER OFFICERS ARE AND NOT IN EVERY COUNTY AND CITY AND TOWN OF VIRGINIA.
UM, IT ALSO HAS THE CURRENT COPY OF THE VIRGINIA FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
IT HAS, UM, YOU CAN WRITE TO THIS COUNCIL TO GIVE A LEGAL OPINION.
AND LIKE ALAN GERHARD IS, I THINK HE'S STILL THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
HE USUALLY RESPONDS LIKE WITHIN THE SAME DAY VIA EMAIL OR IF YOU CALL HIM, YOU KNOW, THESE GUYS ARE LIKE THE STATE FO EXPERTS.
SO, UM, THEY CAN GIVE, THEY, THEY GIVE OPINIONS AND THEY HAVE OPINIONS ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT ARE SEARCHABLE.
SO IF YOU ARE LIKE SEARCHING A CERTAIN SITUATION IN A CERTAIN TERM, THAT CAN BE VERY HELPFUL.
UM, THAT NUMBER TWO, THAT'S A, A GUY THAT I THINK A LOCAL GOVERNMENT ATTORNEY WROTE A WHILE BACK.
SOMETIMES YOU'LL SEE LIKE A LITTLE PAMPHLET, A LITTLE TRIFOLD.
I WAS LIKE, IS THAT STILL AROUND? IT PROBABLY NEEDS TO BE UPDATED IF IT IS.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THE FOIA COUNCIL OPINIONS, THERE'S ATTORNEYS, THERE COULD BE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OPINIONS.
AND THEN THAT LAST ONE, THE VIRGINIA COALITION FOR OPEN GOVERNMENT, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THOSE WATCHDOG AGENCIES.
MEGAN RYAN, I THINK IS THE ONE WHO USUALLY WRITES THE ARTICLES ABOUT THAT.
LIKE I SAID, UM, IF YOU READ THE PAPER YOU COULD SEE LIKE THERE'S SOME LOCALITIES THAT HAVE A REALLY BAD RAP FOR FOIA.
AND UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO REPUTATION MANAGEMENT, BE EFFICIENT AND FOLLOW THE LAW ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, AND I'LL JUST MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THIS SESSION HERE.
I MEAN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY I THINK HAS CONCLUDED, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN OUR, YOU KNOW, BIG PACKET OF WHAT ALL THE 2024 UPDATES ARE.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING HUGE IN FOIA.
YOU KNOW, THEY'LL TWEAK LITTLE THINGS HERE OR THERE.
SO WE'RE DOING THIS A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT.
BUT IF ANYTHING MAJOR CHANGES IN LIKE YOUR MEETING PROCESS OR SOMETHING, I'LL, I'LL MAKE SURE, LET SARAH, I'M NOT ANTICIPATING ANYTHING.
AND UM, ANY NEW LAWS FROM THIS YEAR'S GENERAL ASSEMBLY WOULD BE EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST.
SO JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.
I AM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
WE WILL GET, UM, EVERYONE THEIR FOIA CERTIFICATES, WE, WE MAKE THEM, BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY DON'T REALLY, WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE 'EM TO THE STATE.
WE GIVE 'EM TO LISA, UM, CAN DB OH, HE COULD DO THIS ONLINE OR YEAH, HE COULD WATCH, YEAH, HE COULD WATCH THIS ONLINE OR HE COULD DO THE ONE THAT'S AVAILABLE ONLINE.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S, AND HE WAS ON TWO YEARS AGO.
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CONFLICT OF INTEREST AT COIA, THAT ONE YOU HAVE TO GET, YOU HAVE TO DO THE STATE TRAINING ACT.SO AND SINCE IT'S FEBRUARY 1ST HAS PASSED, YOU'VE ALREADY FILLED OUT YOUR LONG STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTEREST FORM.
AND GIVEN THAT BACK TO LISA, LISA SENT YOU YOURS.
SO YOU SHOULD DO THAT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
YOU CAN FILL IT OUT ONLINE IF YOU WANT.
I HAVE A COPY IF YOU, IF YOU WANT FILL IT OUT IN PAPER.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S A TRAINING THAT YOU DO AND THAT ONE YOU HAVE TO DO ONLINE AND SAME EVERY TWO YEARS.
SO CHECKED WITH LISA TODAY AND SHE'S, YOU ALL ARE GOOD.
SO YOU NEED TO DO YOUR SAME WITH THIS WITHIN TWO MONTHS.
UM, AND THEN EVERY TWO YEARS IS THERE A DATABASE? SO LIKE KEEPS TRACK THERE IS FOR THE STATE OFFICIALS.
OH YEAH, YOU, IF YOU'VE ALREADY DONE IT.
SO YOU CAN PROBABLY SEARCH YOUR NAME IN THERE.
'CAUSE IT'S OR FROM YOUR LAST TRAINING.
SO, BUT IF YOU'ALL WANNA STAY ON THE SAME CYCLE, LIKE THESE GUYS NOW I THINK YOU DID IT, THEY'RE ON THE 20 THAT EVEN YEAR CYCLE IF YOU WANNA DO THAT.
AND YEAH, FOR THE LOCAL, THE LOCAL OFFICIALS, LIKE EVERYTHING IS JUST KEPT HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T GO AND THEY'RE KEPT FOR FIVE YEARS AND IF SOMEONE DID, WE DID GET A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST FOR YOUR CONFLICT OF INTEREST ACT FORM YOUR STATEMENT OF ECONOMIC INTEREST.
THAT'S A PUBLIC RECORD AND WE KEEP THOSE FOR FIVE YEARS.
SO THAT'S HOW THOSE TWO COULD INTERPLAY.
THOSE TWO LAWS COULD INTERPLAY.
AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU HAVE A COM, YOU KNOW, COMPLICATED FINANCIAL, THERE'S, THERE'S GUIDES OUT THERE ON HOW TO FILL THAT FORM OUT.
UM, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF QUESTIONS 'CAUSE I MADE A HUGE GUIDE.
SO
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I CAN'T BE THAT SIMPLE.
WELL IF YOU THINK ONE LATER, DON'T HESITATE TO PASS IT ON TO SARAH AND IF THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES, I I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY.
AND THEY'RE GONNA BE GOING BACK FOR SPECIAL SESSION.
WELL I DON'T KNOW IF ANY FO THOSE ARE BARN BURNERS.
IT'S JUST BUDGET BUDGET STUFF.
WHICH SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, BUDGET STUFF CAN HAVE LOTS OF INTERESTING THINGS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANY, I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY FO STUFF.
BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND IT WAS GREAT MEETING YOU AND I, YOU HAVE A GREAT REST OF YOUR MEETING.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE.
THANK EVERYBODY IN THE COUNTY.
OKAY, MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
[C. New Business Update]
CHAIRMAN.SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL HEARD, BUT THE, UH, FEDERAL RESERVE BUILDING IS FOR SALE ON THE MARKET I THINK LAST WEEK.
THAT IS A HUGE ASSET THAT WE HAVE IN WEST CREEK.
I UPDATED OUR FEATURE BUILDINGS AND SITES WEBPAGE.
UM, I SENT IT OUT TO A COUPLE PROJECTS THAT WERE KIND OF INTERESTED, UM, IN DOING, UM, BUILDING THEIR OWN.
BUT THAT'S BEEN, WHERE ARE THEY GOING YEARS AGO? I DON'T KNOW.
THEY DON'T TELL YOU NO
UM, IT'S A VERY NICE BUILDING THOUGH.
UM, A LOT OF AMENITIES IN THAT BUILDING.
IT'S VERY NICE BUILDING EXCEPT THE BIG CITY THING.
WELL THE INTERESTING THING IS POTENTIALLY THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PAY TAXES NOW.
SO IF WE GET A COMPANY IN THERE THAT'S NOT EXEMPT FROM TAXES, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH SQUARE BUILDING? YEAH.
SOMETHING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
PLUS THEIR OWN WATER SUPPLY, RIGHT? YEAH, THEY HAVE AN ADDITIONAL WATER TANK.
THEY HAVE AH, SPECIAL INTERNET SERVICE.
YES, SPECIAL INTERNET SERVICE.
THEY HAVE, UM, ADDITIONAL ACREAGE FOR MORE BUILDINGS, LIKE IF THEY WANTED LIKE A CORPORATE, YOU KNOW, CAMPUS.
SO, AND THAT HAS WATER AND POWER ANYMORE.
CAN WE GET A DATA CENTER THERE?
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NOT QUITE SET UP FOR AUM, SO I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY NEW PROJECTS IN, UM, SINCE THE LAST TIME WE MET.
SO WE'RE STILL AT, UM, AFTER PROJECT LEADS AROUND 2.3 BILLION AND 460 MILLION UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, RIGHT NOW, UM, IN THE COUNTY.
UM, THE FAIRGROUND ROAD EXTENSION ECONOMIC ANALYSIS KICKED OFF.
UM, SHE HAS REACHED OUT TO, I CONNECTED HER WITH SEVERAL, UM, LANDOWNERS HERE IN THE COURTHOUSE AREA.
UM, GLEN DCOS, THE OWNER OF, UM, THE FOOD LION SHOPPING CENTER, THE OWNER OF THIS SHOPPING CENTER HERE.
I ALSO CONNECTED HER WITH SOME SMALL BUSINESSES TO TRY TO REALLY TALK ABOUT, UM, FEEDBACK FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT.
UM, AND KIND OF BOOTS ON THE GROUND AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COURTHOUSE AREA, UM, TO FEED INTO THEIR STUDY.
UM, SOME GOOD NEWS FROM OUR LAST MEETING, YOU GUYS, UM, UH, DID, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR DOING, UM, AN ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE ANALYSIS IN OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA IN THE EAST END OF THE COUNTY.
AND I WILL SAY THAT THE COUNTY WENT AHEAD AND FUNDED THAT STUDY THROUGH ONE OF OUR ON-CALL ENGINEER FIRMS. SO THAT PO HAS BEEN ISSUED AND WE'RE SCHEDULING A KICKOFF MEETING.
UM, SO WE CHOSE BERRY ENGINEERING TO DO THAT.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE COMING IN MEETING WITH, UH, KEY LANDOWNERS IN THE EAST END OF THE COUNTY AND DOMINION, UM, ENERGY TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET SOME KIND OF PRE-PLANNING DONE TO OUR ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE TO INCREASE, UM, ELECTRICAL CAPACITY IN OUR EAST END DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA.
THE, UM, LAST MONTH YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT I SHOWED YOU SOME DIGITAL MARKETING EFFORTS THAT WE WERE DOING IN REGARDS TO NEW BUSINESS ATTRACTION AND THEY HAD THOSE REALLY NEAT LITTLE, UM, SIDE BANNERS, UM, AND UH, TOP BANNERS THAT IF YOU ACCEPT COOKIES
AND I WANTED TO SHOW YOU WHAT KIND OF GREAT, UM, PROGRESS THEY'VE MADE WITH, UH, THEM.
LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THIS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.
IT'S STILL KIND OF A LITTLE SMALL FOR YOU, BUT, UM, SO OVER 67,000 IMPRESSIONS HAVE BEEN MADE ON THAT.
UM, IS THAT ON FACEBOOK OR IT, IT'S A COMBINATION OF GOOGLE ADS ON AND FACEBOOK.
SO THE GOOGLE ADS DIRECTLY HAVE WHAT YOU GUYS SAW LAST MONTH AND THEN FACEBOOK, IT'S JUST THE VIDEO THAT WE HAD VIEWPOINT CREATE, UM, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE PROBABLY SEEING SOME BETTER APPOINTMENTS ON META JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, VIDEO ACTUALLY.
SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE HAD 476 CLICKS ON IT.
UM, AND UM, OVER HERE YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE THIS, BUT WE'RE GETTING PEOPLE FROM NORTH CAROLINA, FLORIDA, OHIO, GEORGIA, TEXAS, KENTUCKY, PENNSYLVANIA, SOUTH CAROLINA, AND THEN OTHER.
UM, SO WHAT THIS IS TELLING MY PERSPECTIVE, MY THOUGHT IS THAT THESE ARE SITES, ELECTORS AND OR COMPANIES LOCATED IN THESE AREAS.
UM, BECAUSE THE, THE DIGITAL MARKETING THAT WE USED WAS A SITE SELECTOR WEBSITE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE THEY WOULD'VE PICKED US UP FROM.
UM, AND WE HAVE SEEN A, A UPTICK ON, SO WE DRIVE EVERYBODY TO ONE WEBPAGE ON OUR WEBSITE SO WE CAN KIND OF TRACK HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE HITTING THIS PAGE.
AND DIDN'T WE HAVE A YEAH, IT MATCHES UP.
YEAH, PRETTY MUCH WITH ALL THIS BIG CLICK NUMBERS AS WELL WITH THE CLICK NUMBERS.
YEAH, WE'VE SEEN SOME, SOME GOOD.
UM, SO, UM, I'VE ASKED FOR A PROPOSAL TO CONTINUE THIS IDEA, UH, WHILE WE HAVE SUBTRACTION WITH 'EM.
UM, SO DO YOU HAVE A REGION BREAKDOWN FOR GOOGLE? 'CAUSE SOMEONE HAS FOR META, THEY PROVIDE ONE FOR GOOGLE.
UH, JUST HAS A HIGHER CLOSER RATE.
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THAT I KIND OF WANTED TO BRING UP WAS, UM, AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT CURRENTLY GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS FOR FLOOR AREA RATIOSO YOU GET LIKE A TOTAL STRUCTURE AND THEN THERE'S A, UM, CALCULATION THAT'S DONE AGAINST THE SIZE OF THE LOT.
AND RIGHT NOW, UM, IF THE BUILDING IS BIGGER THAN WHAT'S ALLOWED, THEN YOU CAN'T BUILD IT.
SO EITHER YOU HAVE TO ADD MORE LAND OR YOU HAVE TO SHRINK YOUR BUILDING.
UM, I SEE THIS AS A DEVELOPMENT, UM, INHIBITOR.
UM, AND SO WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THERE WAS A, A, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS REZONED A COUPLE YEARS AGO OFF OF PCY TRACK ROAD FOR EXTRA AT STORAGE.
AND AT THE TIME, UM, THE DEVELOPER THOUGHT THAT THE FAR WAS INTERPRETED, LIKE MOST LOCALITIES GET INTERPRETED.
IT TURNS OUT WE'RE, WE'RE DIFFERENT.
UM, SO IT TURNS OUT THAT HE, HE IS NOT ABLE TO, TO BUILD THE, THE STORAGE FACILITY THAT HE WANTS TO BUILD AND THE OFFICE AND THE RETAIL THAT HE WANTS TO BUILD ON THE PROPERTY.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH BUILDING NOT ENOUGH PROPERTY TO, IN INSULT TERMS. SO HE MADE A, A AMENDMENT TO, TO THE COUNTY, UM, TO REMOVE THE FAR, WHICH IS THE GLORIA RATIO REQUIREMENT IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT AT THE TIME.
THE COUNTY THEN SAID, UM, PLANNING STAFF SAID, WELL, WHAT ACTUALLY, WE DON'T THINK THIS RULE, UM, DOES ANYTHING FOR US DEVELOPMENT WISE.
WE ALREADY HAVE OTHER PROTECTIONS IN PLACE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, WE HAVE BUFFERS, WE HAVE LANDSCAPING, WE HAVE PAR PARKING, WE HAVE STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS THAT REALLY ALREADY LIMIT THE SIZE THAT, THAT THE BUILDING CAN BE ON THE SITE ANYWAY.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A BIT OF A REDUNDANCY TO HAVE THIS FAR IN OUR ORDINANCE.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND REMOVE IT FROM COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
UM, THAT STARTED TO GO INTO THE PROCESS AND THERE WAS A, UM, UH, SOME OPPOSITION TO IT, UM, FROM THE CITIZENRY SAYING THAT, THAT IT IS A TOOL THAT LIMITS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IT IS.
UM, AND SO, UH, IT'S GOING BEFORE THE PLANNING.
SO HE, HE TOOK THAT FEEDBACK AND HE SAID, OKAY, LET'S TWEAK IT.
AND SO NOW BASICALLY IT'S, UH, THE WAY THAT IT GETS DETERMINED, UM, IS MORE IN LINE WITH HOW, MAYBE HOW OTHER LOCALITIES DETERMINE IT.
UM, AND SO THAT IS MAKING A WAY THROUGH ITS PROCESS.
WELL, I LOOKED AT THE WHOLE THING HOLISTICALLY AND SAID, WHY DON'T WE AS A COUNTY TAKE THIS ON? AND WHY DON'T WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE REMOVE IT FROM OUR INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS? THERE WAS SOME THOUGHT IN FROM THE CITIZENS THAT, UM, THIS OUTSIDE ATTORNEY'S COMING IN, THIS DEVELOPER'S COMING IN AND HE'S JUST WANTING TO DO IT, UH, JUST TO MAKE HIS HIS SITE WORK.
BUT THAT MIGHT BE TRUE HOLISTICALLY, WE DON'T NEED IT.
UM, FROM A COUNTY STANDPOINT IN A COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS, I WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT WE REMOVE IT FROM RESIDENTIAL OR MIXED PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
IT WILL STAY IN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS BECAUSE, UM, THERE IS USES FOR IT IN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S GOING TO VOTE ON THE CURRENT PROPOSAL TOMORROW NIGHT, UM, RIGHT
SO AT THE JUNE BOARD MEETING STAFF IS GOING TO BE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OR, UM, ASKING THE BOARD TO INITIATE A BRAND NEW ORDINANCE COMMITMENT THAT'S COUNTY INITIATED TO REMOVE IT FROM COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND LET THAT GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AGAIN, UM, GAIN CITIZEN INPUT AGAIN, BUT MAYBE WITH A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE SINCE THIS IS COUNTY INITIATED.
UM, WE FEEL THAT IT, IT IT IS THE BEST INTEREST IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AREAS, IN OUR GROWTH AREAS TO NOT LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF
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COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL GROWTH THAT CAN GO IN OUR GROWTH AREAS.UM, SO THAT'S GONNA BE COMING BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I MIGHT BE ASKING YOU ALL TO MAYBE WRITE A LETTER OF SUPPORT OR SHOW UP AT A PLANNING COMMISSIONER BOARD MEETING TO EXPRESS SOME SUPPORT FOR THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? IT'S, IS THAT THE LAST OF NEW BUSINESS? 'CAUSE I GOT THREE ITEMS. NO.
UH, UM, SO I'M WORKING ON AN OUTLINE AND SOME INITIATIVES FOR, UM, I THINK AT OUR LAST MEETING, YOU KNOW, WE ALL KIND OF DECIDED THAT THE BOARD AND THE EDA NEEDS TO HAVE A JOINT WORKSHOP SESSION.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA BE ASKING IN A COUPLE MINUTES FOR SOME DATES FROM YOU ALL, BUT THAT COULD WORK.
AND THEN I'M GONNA COORDINATE THOSE DATES WITH THE BOARD AND SEE IF YOU CAN GET IT ON THE CALENDAR.
BUT I'M WORKING, UM, KIND OF A TENTATIVE OUTLINE, SOME HIGH LEVEL ITEMS TO TALK ABOUT WHILE WE'RE THERE.
UM, AVAILABILITY OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT LAND, THE IMPORTANCE OF SITE READINESS AND ASSOCIATED COST WITH GETTING SOME SITES READY.
A CREATION OF A TECHNOLOGY ZONE, UH, TO ALLOW FOR MORE KIND OF FLEXIBLE INCENTIVES, SUPPORT FOR EXISTING BUSINESS EXPANSIONS, SOME TOURISM ENHANCEMENTS, AND THEN HOW DOES THE EDA FIT INTO THOSE THINGS AND HOW WOULD THOSE PARTNERSHIPS WORK? AND FROM YOU ALL'S PERSPECTIVE, AM I MISSING ANYTHING? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU GUYS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S KIND OF FOREFRONT OF YOUR MIND THAT YOU WANNA BRING FORWARD TO THE, TO THE BOARD DURING THIS WORK SESSION?
AND, AND IF YOU THINK OF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, SHOOT ME AN EMAIL.
UM, AND I'LL BE, I'LL BE WORKING ON THIS POWERPOINT PRESENTATION UNTIL THE, UM, UNTIL THE, THE, THE MEETING.
UM, SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING IF THEY HAD THE BOARD ASKS QUESTIONS FOR US.
UH, I THINK I MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT BEFORE.
THAT WAY WE CAN BE PREPARED WITH RESPONSE AND DISCUSS IT.
UM, ALSO IN ADDITION, I'M WORKING TO SET UP, UM, SOME FINANCIAL TRAINING, LIKE OUR INFORMATION SESSION WITH THE COUNTY'S, UM, UH, FINANCIAL FIRM SO YOU GUYS CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE EDA HAS AVAILABLE TO YOU FINANCIALLY ON YOUR OWN, NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT PARTNERING WITH THE COUNTY, BUT WHAT ARE SOME OPTIONS THAT AN EDA CAN DO BY THEMSELVES? UM, SO I WOULD NEED SOME DATES FOR THAT TOO.
I'M HOPING TO HAVE THAT MEETING BEFORE THE BOARD EDA JOINT WORKSHOP.
UM, SO THEN THAT WAY EVERYBODY'S KIND OF FORMED AND ON THE SAME PAGE.
UM, SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, UM, I HAVE SOME MAY DATES.
IF YOU ALL HAVE YOUR CALENDAR, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF I CAN GET THE DATES SET.
UM, SO ACCORDING TO MY CALENDAR, WE COULD DO MAY 6TH.
AND I'M, I'M ASSUMING, I'M PROBABLY, WELL, I THINK THESE ARE ALL EVENING MEETINGS.
WHAT, WHAT TIME DID YOU SUGGEST? EVENING? YEAH.
UM, YEAH, I'M AVAILABLE ON DAY SIX.
UM, WHAT TIME DID YOU SAY EVENING? LIKE AFTER FIVE? UM, THE, UM, I THINK THE, THE GUCCI CARES GOLF EVENT IS THAT DAY.
OH, I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE SIXTH.
WHAT ABOUT, UM, MAY 8TH? I'M WIDE OPEN.
I NEED TO GIVE HIM SOME OPTIONS.
WE TALKING THE BOARD AGAIN? HM MM-HMM.
TRAINING, FINANCIAL TRAINING STRICTLY TO TRAINING.
THE, DID YOU SEE MAY 10TH? MAY 10TH.
YOU TALKING FRIDAY NIGHT? FRIDAY DURING THE DAY? YEAH.
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IT WORK FOR YOU? RIGHT? UH, MAY 13TH? I CAN DO THAT.NO, IT WOULD BE THE SPECIAL SESSION.
WHAT DO, IF IT'S EVENING, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE OPTION FOR MAY TO BE MAY 8TH.
SO I'LL FLOAT THAT THE 13TH IF IT'S EVENING.
I'LL FLOAT THOSE TWO DATES AND IF I CAN'T MAKE ANY OF THOSE WORK, THEN I WILL SEND OUT A DOABLE, UH, WITH SOME DATES.
UM, AND WHILE WE ALL HAVE OUR CALENDARS OUT, THIS WOULD BE THE POTENTIAL DATES FOR THE BOARD EDA RETREAT.
NOW THIS WOULD BE, THIS IS A SATURDAY AND IT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE ALL DAY, PROBABLY NINE TO FOUR OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
UM, SO I'M LOOKING AT JUNE 1ST, UM, IF THAT WOULD WORK.
AND DV IS OUT, SO THAT PROBABLY WOULDN'T WORK.
WHAT ABOUT JUNE 15TH? I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
UH, I'M NOT, I, I FIGURE WHY I'M NOT
YOU GOOD? UH, YOU ON ME? MM-HMM.
UM, AND THEN JULY 20TH, IF, IF THE BOARD CAN'T MAKE ANY OF THOSE DATES.
AND THEN IF WE'RE REALLY STRETCHING IT, WE'RE REALLY DESPERATE.
FOURTH IS RINGING A BELL OR SOMETHING.
WHAT WAS THE FIRST, SECOND DATE IN MAY AGAIN? 13 13TH.
THE MAY DATES THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
I JUST, I JUST REALIZED SOME THINGS ON, ON THE CALENDAR FOR, SAY NIGHT 19TH.
SO MONDAY THE 20TH IS NOT GOOD FOR ME.
UM, SO I DID THAT, DID THAT UP.
I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NEW BUSINESS UPDATE ON MY END.
UM, THE 460 MILLION UNDER DEVELOPMENT, DOES THAT INCLUDE COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL? YES.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT PROPORTION OF APPROXIMATELY THAT IS? I DON'T, BUT I CAN LOOK.
UM, LET'S SEE WHAT THE COLLECTIVE'S ALREADY DONE.
UM, SO WHAT WOULD JUST BE AVERY POINT AND KIND OF WHAT I'M TRYING TO DISCRIMINATE IS COMMERCIAL.
RESIDENTIAL VERSUS LET'S SAY ANYTHING COMMERCIAL THAT'S STRICTLY YEAH.
AND SO, UM, ALL THE APARTMENTS I THINK ARE COD AND DONE.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'VE FALLEN OFF UNDER ACTIVE CONSTRUCTION, UM,
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AND TECHNICAL APPLIANCE IS COD AND DONE.BUT AVERY POINT DOES PROVIDE A SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL INVESTMENT.
AND ALSO SIGNIFICANT SERVICE REQUIREMENTS.
SO THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN IS MM-HMM.
UH, BUT, UM, SECOND IS THE, UM, SOUTHEASTERN YES.
STUDY INFRASTRUCTURE STUDY THAT YOU SAID THE, UM, WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD TO DO LOOKING UTILITIES.
DOES THAT INCLUDE, UH, AND YOU HAD MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, ELECTRICAL, THAT WOULD ALSO BE FURTHER TO THE NORTH.
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE ELECTRICAL AT ALL IN THE SIS STUDY.
SO THAT'S WHY, UM, WE THINK THAT IT WAS A REALLY GOOD IDEA TO, TO GO IN AND STUDY THE ELECTRICAL AND THE ENTIRE EASTERN DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA, INCLUDING THE SOUTHERN INFRASTRUCTURE AREA AND NORTH OF THERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE ALREADY ISSUED THE PO FOR FOUR.
AND THEN THE, UH, THIRD ITEM IS FAR.
I ACTUALLY ATTENDED ALONG WITH ANOTHER ESTEEM INDIVIDUAL IN THE ROOM, UH, THAT MEETING.
AND, UH, I, I, THIS IS A, A CONCEPT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT REALLY HAVEN'T DELVED INTO IT.
OBVIOUSLY A SPOKEN IN FAVORITE DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, THINGS BEFORE.
BUT I FEEL VERY, UH, PROMOTING THE, THE CONCEPT OF ELIMINATING, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, THE FAR FOR, FOR A COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THE VALUE IN IT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE ADJOINING COUNTIES, THAT LEASE WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, THAT NIGHT AT THE
UM, A LOT OF THE COUNTIES THAT DO HAVE IT ARE LIKE NORTHERN VIRGINIA, LIKE ARLINGTON AND CRYSTAL CITY AND ALEXANDRIA AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHERE, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE THE SETBACKS AND BUFFER PROTECTIONS OR, OR EVEN LIKE THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS UNLESS THEY'RE IN THE FLY ZONE.
UH, SO TO 'EM, IT MAKES MORE, IT MAKES SENSE.
UM, THE OTHER WAY IT'S USED IS, IS IF YOU HAVE REALLY, REALLY TALL BUILDINGS AND A REALLY VALUABLE PIECE OF LAND, YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY COMING IN AND PUTTING A SMALL, INVALUABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY ON, UM, BUILDING ON IT.
SO THEY HAVE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS.
SO YOU, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO MAKE, YOUR BUILDING IS TALLER.
SO THE WAY THAT WE UTILIZE IT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT HELPFUL
AND THEREFORE I, IT KIND OF COMES AROUND TO SHOULD WE DEVELOP POLICY, NOT POLICY, AT LEAST MINIMALLY LETTERS THAT COME OUT FOR THE BOARD.
AND WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE WITH, UH, CERTAIN DEVELOPMENTS MORE RECENTLY.
BUT I'D, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT DOWN THERE.
SO IF THERE'S ANY, I'VE GOT SOME OF THE BACKGROUND.
I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE IT ALL FOR THE CHANGE.
AND ACTUALLY, IF WE COULD ALL EVALUATE IT OURSELVES AND GET BACK, AND THEN I, I'D LIKE TO STATE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD IN FRONT OF THE, I MEAN, I, I'D EVEN LIKE TO STATE IT TOMORROW.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, WE'VE GOT A, A LATE CALL TOMORROW.
UM, WE ARE STAFF IS WORKING ON GETTING, UM, SOME TALKING POINTS TOGETHER.
SO WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE YOU GUYS WITH THAT.
'CAUSE IT IS A, IT IS A HIGH LEVEL PLANNING CONCEPT THAT IF YOU ARE NOT USED TO DEALING WITH IT ON A DAILY BASIS, IT IS A LITTLE WEIRD TO TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, SO GET SOME TALKING POINTS TOGETHER AND WE CAN PROVIDE THOSE TO YOU.
AND IF THERE'S OPPOSING, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING GENERATED OPPOSING VIEWPOINT TO IT.
I, I, I, I, I DIDN'T HEAR SOLID ARGUMENTS, UM, AGAINST MORE EMOTIONAL ARGUMENTS AGAINST IT.
BUT, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S JUST A CONSIDERATION THERE THAT I THINK IS, I, I THINK THAT ONE OF THE THINGS WE SHOULD DO IS TRY AND PROMOTE BUSINESS THROUGH ELIMINATION OF, UH, THINGS THAT HINDER BUSINESS COST AND COST THE BUSINESS THAT JUST DON'T PROVIDE THE VALUE.
SO THAT, THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT WITH REGARDS TO THAT OPPORTUNITY ITEM FARM, ESPECIALLY THIS REDUNDANCY.
IT, IT SEEMS LIKE, ESPECIALLY THE WAY THE COUNTY ORDINANCES ARE NOW IS GROSSLY REDONE.
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SO THAT IS THE END OF NEW BUSINESS, EXISTING BUSINESS UPGRADE.CAN I JUST ASK, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO ASK IN NEW BUSINESS OR OTHER, BUT
[D. Existing Business Update]
I'LL JUST TURN OUT THERE.UM, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE US, UH, OUR AUTHORITY GET SOME TRAINING ON BONDS.
SO, UM, THE FINANCIAL TRAINING THAT I'M, I'M TRYING TO SET UP WILL INCLUDE THAT.
AND YOU BOTH, DID YOU HAVE ON THE AGENDA FOR FUTURE CARES? THANK YOU, JOHN.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.
UH, AND I WONDER HOW MUCH THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH BONDS TOO, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE DOING THE A CFR, WHICH WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE CA UH, CAP, BUT FR THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE THE IN DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF PRODUCT MEAN I KNOW SOMEBODY IN THE COUNTY DOES.
UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY TO, YEAH.
SO, BUT THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.
'CAUSE ONE OF OUR PREDOMINANT METHODOLOGIES, WHATEVER IS, UH, THE ABILITY TO ESTABLISH BONDS, WHICH WOULD, IF WE'RE LOOKING TOWARDS ANY TYPE OF SUPPORTIVE DEVELOPMENT OF A LARGER SCALE THAN ONE GOT, WE CAN DO IT.
I JUST FEEL LIKE I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO IT VERY ELOQUENTLY WHEN SOMEONE ASKS ME A QUESTION.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU, I CAN'T BSING AROUND IT EITHER.
'CAUSE I JUST DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS ABOUT THE BUSINESS UPDATE? HEARING NONE DONE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE EXISTING BUSINESS UPDATE.
SO A COUPLE BUSINESS HIGHLIGHTS.
UH, SO SHELTERING ARMS, CARMAX AND OAK HILL LANDED ON THE BEST PLACE TO WORK FOR THE USA TODAY POLE.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THOSE THREE, UH, THREE OTHER BUSINESSES LANDED ON THE TIMES DISPATCH BEST PLACES TO WORK, WHICH CAME OUT YESTERDAY, AND THAT INCLUDED PFG, PARAMOUNT BUILDERS AND CAPITAL ONE.
SO IT'S EXCITING TO SEE THOSE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND CELEBRATIONS FOR SOME
UM, OUR SHOP LOCAL OPEN REWARDS PROGRAM, IT'S STILL RUNNING REALLY STRONG.
UM, LAST TIME I CHECKED IT WAS RIGHT ABOUT 2250 OF, OF THE 5,000 HAD BEEN DIS DISPERSED, UH, FOR ABOUT A ECONOMIC IMPACT RIGHT UNDER 55,000 RIGHT NOW.
SO LOOKING REALLY STRONG SO FAR.
UM, NEXT MONTH IS BUSINESS APPRECIATION MONTH.
SO A COUPLE DATES TO HIGHLIGHT.
WE HAVE MAY 7TH IS OUR, WE'LL HAVE THE VOICE SUPERVISOR PROCLAMATION, UH, FOR, UH, PROCLAIMING MAY'S BUSINESS APPRECIATION MONTH IN HOUSTON.
UM, REAL QUICK, WILL THAT BE DURING THE DAY? YES.
THAT'S ON OUR, OUR DAY, RIGHT? YES.
I SENT OUT A CALENDAR WITH MY, YEAH.
AND THEN AFTER, WE'RE MR. COLLIER AND MR. STALLONE ARE MEETING WITH PAAN, EDA.
ARE THEY COMING HERE OR GOING THERE? THEY'RE COMING HERE.
SO, PALATAN, EDA, UM, REQUESTED REACHED OUT AND REQUESTED TO BE ABLE TO MEET WITH CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, KIND OF TALK THROUGH, UM, GLAND EDA AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.
UM, AND JUST TO GET A FEELING FOR, UM, WHAT THEY COULD BE DOING AND RESOURCE SHARE TOGETHER.
SO I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
DO THEY HAVE ANY PRECONCEIVED IDEAS AS TO WHAT THEY MIGHT BE WANTING TO TALK ABOUT? OR JUST IN GENERALITIES? I THINK IT'S JUST GENERAL, HOW YOU ALL FUNCTION.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT YOU PROVIDE THE BUSINESSES, UM, THAT, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO WE NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON, AT LEAST GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND LOOK THROUGH WHAT THEY, THEY'VE GOT DON'T HAVE.
SO HERE FOR THE BUSINESS APPRECIATION THING.
THAT'S OBVIOUSLY THE SAME DAY WE HAVE.
SO AGAIN, ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GO THERE FOR THE MEETING OR ARE WE HAVING A MEETING? SO THE BOARD, OH, THE BUSINESS APPRECIATION EVENT.
SO THE, THE BOARD RESOLUTION IS MAY 7TH AT TWO O'CLOCK, AND THEN THE EVENT IS, UM, MAY 15TH AT KINDRED.
UM, I WAS GOING TO RECOMMEND THAT WE JUST CANCEL THE MAY MEETING.
I MIGHT, I MIGHT ADVERTISE IT THAT I MIGHT NOTICE IT THAT THERE WILL BE MORE THAN THREE EDA MEMBERS AT THE
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BUSINESS APPRECIATION EVENT.UM, JUST IN CASE YOU GUYS DO END UP RANDOMLY TALKING ABOUT COUNTY BUSINESS.
MORE THAN THREE OF YOU AT, AT A TIME.
UM, IT, BUT A FORMAL MEETING I WAS GONNA CANCEL WITH YOUR PERMISSION.
BUT YEAH, I JUST LONG WE HAVE THE NOTICE.
YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S BEER AND LOUD MOUTH,
WELL, EXCEPT THE BEST MEAL ME HAD TOOK.
I TOOK MY FOOT AND FOOT IN THE MOUTH.
YOU REMEMBER THAT LAST YEAR? NO ONE THAT LAST YEAR.
I'VE BEEN SENDING OUT SOME INVITES TO BUSINESSES AND GETTING A GOOD RESPONSE SO FAR.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE, UH, A GOOD RESPONSE.
LAST YEAR WE HAD ABOUT 20 TO 25 BUSINESSES SHOW UP.
SO THIS YEAR, HOPING TO GET THAT NUMBER AND SOME MORE.
UM, MAY 10TH, WE'RE HAVING A BUSINESS, UH, CENTER, OPEN HOUSE JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S ALSO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WEEK, UM, FOR THE COMMUNITY TO COME IN, ASK US RANDOM QUESTIONS IF THEY WANT TO ASK US RANDOM QUESTIONS.
IT'S JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR YEAH.
UM, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE MONTH, UH, SARAH, AND I'LL BE DOING SOME BUSINESS STOPS, JUST RANDOMLY STOPPING BY DIFFERENT BUSINESSES WITH SOME COS OF APPRECIATION.
SOMETHING WE DIDN'T DO LAST YEAR THAT WE JUST WANNA INVOLVE THIS YEAR.
UM, SO I THINK THAT'S EVERYTHING FOR BUSINESS APPRECIATION MONTH.
UH, IN TWO WEEKS WE HAVE OUR SECOND WORKSHOP OF THE YEAR.
WE TRY TO, TO HAVE A WORKSHOP QUARTERLY JUST TO GIVE BUSINESSES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR EDUCATIONAL, UH, CHANCES.
AND THEN, SO IT'S A-V-R-O-T-A WORKSHOP, SO IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON OUR TOURISM AND RESTAURANT INDUSTRY.
WE HAVE FOUR BUSINESSES SIGNED UP FOR IT SO FAR AS SEND OUT ANOTHER INVITE TO THAT TODAY.
UM, AND THEN THEEN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUSINESS AND EDUCATION ROUNDTABLE WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.
THAT WAS, UH, AT THE END OF MARCH.
UH, THAT WAS THEIR BEST ATTENDANCE.
AND ABOUT, UH, TWO YEARS I WOULD SAY I WORKED REALLY CLOSELY WITH THEM ON THAT AND KIND OF DESIGNED THE, UH, THE AGENDA AND SENT OUT A LOT OF INVITATIONS ON THE PAST.
SO I WAS EXCITED TO SEE THAT AS WELL.
ATTENDED A COUPLE BRA UPDATES, UH, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF MY VISITS.
SO, UH, I WON'T NAME THE BUSINESS, BUT WORKING ON THEM REALLY CLOSELY ON NEW RETENTION SLASH EXPANSION PROJECT WITH THEM.
UM, THAT BUSINESS, THEY HAD ENDED UP SELLING THEIR CURRENT BUILDING, BUT THEY WANT TO STAY IN GOLAND.
SO IT'S A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
THEY SOLD THEIR BUS, THEIR BUILDING TO A, A BUSINESS COMING IN THAT WILL BRING IN MORE JOBS.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH THEM TO FIND THE SPACE, UH, TO RETAIN THEM.
SO IT'S REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
UM, UH, VISITED THE NEW CEO AT HALLMARK YOUTH CARE.
UM, SO THEY HAVE A NEW CE THERE.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY EXPANDING THEIR CAPACITY FROM 82 TO, OR NINE TWO BEDS TO 102 BEDS.
UH, THEY JUST PUT IN THEIR PERMITS FOR THAT WITH THE STATE AND ARE ALSO LOOKING AT A PHYSICAL EXPANSION, WHICH IS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS TO ADD SOME MORE BEDS.
OH, WHAT IS THIS? HALLMARK YOUTH CARE? IT'S A, UH, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CENTER FOR, UH, TEENS FROM 11 TO 17 IN WEST CREEK.
ON THE LOOP RIGHT NEXT TO KENJI TOO.
OH, UH, I GOT TO VISIT, UH, THE
WE NEVER REALLY HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM OR VISITED THERE, SO, UM, WAS ABLE TO GET MY FOOT IN THE DOOR.
UH, THEY DO A TON OF ASPHALT PRODUCTION THERE.
UM, 290 TONS AND ABOVE THAT A YEAR.
SO VERY PRODUCTIVE BUSINESS IN HOUSTON COUNTY.
LAST WEEK I GOT AN AWESOME TOUR OF THE, UH, RASO CUNNING PRESERVE, UM, WHICH IS GREAT TO SEE.
THEIR SEASON JUST ENDED UP, THEY HAD A VERY GOOD SEASON.
TALKED TO 'EM ABOUT SOME EXPANSION IDEAS THEY HAD AND, AND HOW WE CAN ASSIST THERE.
AND THEN ONE OF THE COOLEST BUSINESSES I VISITED WAS, UH, SEA FORBES INCORPORATED.
THEY ARE NEXT, THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO KYDD SPIRIT IN THE MANNEQUIN TRADE CENTER.
UH, WHAT THEY DO IS, UH, HIGH-END PROMO MATERIALS.
SO THEY ACTUALLY, THEY WORKED FOR SIX PRESIDENTIAL ADMINISTRATIONS MAKING ALL THEIR PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS.
UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, THEY DO THE VICE PRESIDENT'S CHRISTMAS ORNAMENTS FOR THEM.
THEY DESIGN IT ALL AND THEN, UH, SEND IT OUT FOR MANUFACTURING.
THEY DO DO SOME MANUFACTURING IN-HOUSE,
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UM, AND HAVE CONTRACTS WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY, UH, WORLD WAR I MINING THERE, UH, SMITHSONIAN.UH, WE REALLY HAPPY TO CONNECT WITH THEM AND WE'RE GONNA WRITE A LITTLE BLOG POST TO HIGHLIGHT THEM DURING BUSINESS APPRECIATION MONTH.
UM, THEY JUST CELEBRATED 25 YEARS IN ENGAGEMENT, SO VERY EXCITED.
IS THIS THE, THE ROIC HUNTING RESERVE WITH ONE S ON YEAH, ONE S ON HAY.
YEAH, I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE.
SO, UM, AND THEN WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THE CHAMBER BOARD, UM, JUST NOT TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL AND, AND KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF THEIR EVENTS.
SO, UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO HAVE, UH, THE FIRST, UH, SCORE POPUP MENTORING SESSION FOR SMALL BUSINESSES AND ENTREPRENEURS NEXT MONTH.
UM, DOING MORE WORK WITH 'EM TO SPONSOR THEIR, UH, NETWORKING EVENTS.
AND THEN WE ARE WORKING ON A SMALL BUSINESS RESOURCE BREAKFAST IN JULY WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PANEL OF FOUR, UH, OF OUR PARTNERS BUSINESS RESOURCE PARTNERS FROM SB DC, UH, NETWORK FOR WORK, SBSD, AND THE, UH, VIRGINIA SMALL VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF SMALL BUSINESS FINANCINGS THAT.
UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE PEOPLE BREAKFAST WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING AT THE RESIDENCE.
AND SO, UM, I KNOW THE CHAMBER'S REALLY EXCITED TO START OFFERING THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA PARTNER WITH THEM TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE VALUE TO THEIR MEMBERSHIP.
UM, BUT THEN TO OPEN CHAMBER EVENTS TO NON-MEMBERS.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF ALL I HAVE FOR THIS MONTH'S UPDATES.
I DO HAVE ONE ITEM, UM, THAT, UH, TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION FOR EXISTING BUSINESS.
SO, UM, YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH OILVILLE BUSINESS PARK RIGHT OFF OF, UM, OILVILLE ROAD, THE EXISTING BUSINESS PARK.
THERE'S TWO, UM, BUSINESSES BACK THERE THAT THE ZONING OFFICE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM.
UM, WORKING WITH THE LANDOWNERS, THERE'S BEEN SOME BUFFER DISTURBANCE.
SO SOME TREES HAVE BEEN TAKEN DOWN.
THERE'S SOME THINGS STORED IN A REQUIRED BUFFERING AREA.
UM, AND SO THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF WORKING WITH THEM, BUT TRY TO GET THAT RESTORED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAD PHYSICAL CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM OR NOT, UM, YET, OR IF IT'S JUST BEEN ALL VIA LETTERS.
UM, AND SO WE WERE GOING TO GO OUT AND TRY TO TALK TO 'EM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
BUT I GOT TO THINKING THAT, UM, THE COST TO RESTORE THIS BUFFER, 'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO PLANS AND POTENTIALLY TAKE UP SOME ASPHALT AND PLANT NEW TREES.
TO RESTORE ALL THESE BUFFERS, UM, COULD GET EXPENSIVE.
AND SO I WANTED TO ASK YOU ALL IF YOU WOULD BE AMENABLE IF WE COULD OFFER THEM TO COME IN TO REQUEST A LOAN, UM, FROM THE EDA TO OFFSET TO HELP THEM BE ABLE TO, TO DO THIS THING THAT THE COUNTY IS MAKING THEM DO.
UM, BUT WE WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ALL FIRST BEFORE WE WENT OUT THERE SO WE COULD ACTUALLY OFFER SOME RESOURCES TO THEM.
UM, AND INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, SORRY, THE COUNTY'S MAKING YOU DO THIS
AND, AND TO PUT, AND I MEAN, I'M ESTIMATING, I DON'T, I'M ESTIMATING ANYWHERE BETWEEN 25 TO MAYBE $50,000 BY THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE TO DO LIKE, ENGINEER PLANS AND BUY THE TREES AND MAYBE DIG UP ASPHALT.
I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GONNA BE THAT MUCH, BUT YOU KNOW, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? YEAH.
DID DID THEY KNOW YOU WOULD DO IT OR, SO, UM, THEY ARE RECENT LAND, UH, PURCHASERS OF THE LAND.
IT WAS DONE BEFORE THEY PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
SO THEY DIDN'T DO THESE THINGS, BUT THEY PURCHASED A PROPERTY THAT, THAT WASN'T IN COMPLIANCE.
UM, SO, SO, SO THE COUNTY'S FORCING THEM TO PAY FOR THE, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS LIKE THAT THEY BOUGHT IT.
MAYBE WE COULD DO SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES WITH WHAT WE DID WITH LAKE HALL.
WE SAY, IF YOU PAY THIS PAYMENT AND THIS PAYMENT AND THIS PAYMENT, THEN AT THE END WE'LL FORGIVE THIS BALLOON.
BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S WITHIN CODE, RIGHT? IN VIRGINIA WE COULD DO THAT.
WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE OKAY WITH IT BEFORE WE OFFERED IT AS A, AS
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A RESOURCE TO THE BUSINESS.IS IT BEING BROUGHT UP AS AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE? IT IS.
UM, APPARENTLY THERE WAS A COMPLAINT MADE.
SO THE COUNTY OPERATES ON A COMPLAINT BASIS AND THAT WAS A COMPLAINT MADE AGAINST THESE TWO PROPERTIES THAT THERE WAS, THAT THE BUFFER HAD BEEN DISTURBED.
SO IS IT RIGHT BY THE QUONSET HUB? UM, I DUNNO WHAT QUO HUB IS.
UM, IT'S ON, AS YOU'RE HEADED BACK, YOU KNOW, FAR END IS TOMMY BRANDON'S PLACE? NO, THIS IS OILVILLE BUSINESS PARK.
SO SO OFF OF OILVILLE ROAD AS CREEK CREEK ROAD AS TOWER.
SO SIT THERE MAYBE S MORE
SO A LITTLE BIT YEAR HERE AND, AND THEY MIGHT NOT TAKE US OFF ON THE OFFER.
I JUST, WE JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A RESOURCE TO THE BUSINESS.
I, I WOULDN'T WANT TO OFFER TO PAY FOR THE LAWYER FOR IT, BUT I THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD, THEY ARGUE, BUT COULD BE WRONG.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERSON IS, BUT YES.
SOMETHING ELSE UNDER EXISTING BUSINESS THAT, UM, I GUESS RATHER THAN OTHER BUSINESS.
UM, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN CLOSED SESSION, SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO SAY ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO STAY IN CLOSED SESSION.
BUT, UM, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, WHAT THE POTENTIAL FOR SOMETHING GOING INTO REYNOLDS MM-HMM.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON? BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE KNOWN THAT THERE'S SOME MOVEMENT TO CLOSE THAT CAMPUS.
UM, SO THE COUNTY, UM, HAS BEEN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THE COUNTY COULD USE IT AS SPACE.
I ACTUALLY HOSTED VIRGINIA ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP OUT THERE TWO MONTHS AGO, LAST MONTH, FOR THEM TO WALK THROUGH THE SPACE TO SEE IF, IF IT PROMPTED ANYTHING.
UM, NOTHING REALLY CAME OUT OF THAT.
THE SPACE IS SO UNIQUELY SET UP FOR SCHOOLING.
IT, IT JUST WOULD TAKE A LOT OF MONEY TO RENOVATE IT, TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH IT.
UM, RIGHT NOW I THINK THE COUNTY IS STILL LOOKING AT POTENTIAL USES FOR IT.
UM, I KNOW MR. CARPENTER AND DR.
PANDO WITH REYNOLDS, UM, HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS.
SO, UM, THEY ARE DISCUSSING POTENTIALLY THE FUTURE OF THE PROPERTY.
I TRY TO PUT COMPANIES IN THERE AND IT HASN'T HAVE NOT BEEN SUCCESSFUL.
I WAS ASKED BY THE, UM, THE HEAD OF THE HORTICULTURE DEPARTMENT.
SKILLED WORKERS FROM FROM THAT COME OUTTA THAT PROGRAM.
IT'S A HUGE ASSET, BUT ABSOLUTELY HUGE LOSS TO OUR AGRICULTURAL INDUSTRY.
I DON'T SEE THEM BEING ABLE TO MOVE IT VERY EASILY TO THE RO CAMPUS BECAUSE A LOT OF IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR DECADES.
I MEAN, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UM, THAT THEY ALSO, UM, MAYBE WRITE, UM, A LETTER TO, UM, REYNOLDS AND THEN MAYBE EVEN TO MR. CARPENTER, THE HORTICULTURE, YOU KNOW, TO SAY THAT WE FIND VALUE IN BEING IN THIS BUILDING AND BEING, YOU KNOW, HERE.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK THE DA TO WRITE A LETTER OF SUPPORT ON THEIR BEHALF? I WOULD SAY IT'S PART OF OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR ACTIVISM.
I MEAN, HE'S GOT KIND OF A, UM, A TEMPLATE FOR A LETTER.
AND IT'S GOT QUITE A, QUITE A GOOD LIST OF PEOPLE THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SENT TO.
UM, JUST ASKING FOR SUPPORT FOR THE PROGRAM.
AND IS PART OF THAT REALLY COMMITT OUT ON THE BUDGETARY, LET'S SAY NEEDS? WELL, IT JUST ALSO WANTS TO RUN ON CAMPUS AND THAT'S THE ONLY PROGRAM THAT'S THERE NOW.
SO, AND THEY CAN'T JUSTIFY KEEPING IT IF SOMETHING ELSE DOESN'T COME INTO THE BUILDING TO HELP SUPPORT IT.
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR MONTHLY OVERALL COST IS, BUT IT'S GOTTA BE PRETTY BIG CHUNK.CONTACT WITH THE STATE ABOUT THEIR, LIKE, ADULT EDUCATION INITIATIVES THAT MIGHT FIT THAT SPACE.
UM, SO I'VE HAD CONTACT WITH WORKFORCE, UM, RESOURCES, UM, LIKE CAREER WORKS AND, UM, BUT WHILE THEY WOULD LIKE TO USE THE SPACE, THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LEASE THE BUILDING, UM, FROM REYNOLDS.
UM, I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, THE SECRETARY OF AGS OFFICE AS TO WHETHER THEY COULD TAKE IT OVER OR USE IT FOR SOME KIND OF AGRICULTURAL, UM, AND THEY, THEY COULDN'T FIND A USE FOR IT THERE.
WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, VIRGINIA TECH TO SEE IF THEY COULD POTENTIALLY OPEN LIKE AN EXTENSION OFFICE THERE.
AND THAT LED DIDN'T GO TO ANYWHERE.
I'VE HAD TWO COMPANIES COME AND LOOK THROUGH IT AND THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.
SO, UM, I HAVE NOT LOOKED OR HAD ANY CONTACT, UH, WITH ADULT EDUCATION, UM, OR EVEN LIKE ANY OF THAT SIDE OF, OF A STATE NEED A STATE.
'CAUSE THE STATE DOESN'T PROPERTY.
SO THEY COULD IN THEORY UTILIZE IT.
IT'S PROBABLY THE LESS PRI WELL NEXT TO THE LAST, OR MAYBE EIGHT, TWO DOWN BEST PRIME PROPERTY, THE COURTHOUSE AREA, WHICH IS DESIGNATED AS A VILLAGE, WHICH YOU CAN'T EVEN DEVELOP, WHICH YOU CAN'T EVEN DO ANYTHING WITH.
I THINK WE NEED PROBABLY SOME HOUSE ABILITY TO SUPPORT.
THERE'S A LOT WE CAN DO, ESPECIALLY IF WE FIND PROGRAM OR USE AND THEN BUILD A BUDGET AROUND IT.
BECAUSE THAT'S LIKE A BIG INITIATIVE OF THE GOVERNORS AND IT'S ESPECIALLY EDUCATION, EDUCATION TYPE STUFF.
IT'S GOT WATER AND WASTE WATER.
I MEAN THE, THE BUILDING IS FANTASTIC.
THE, THE POWER'S TOO FAR AWAY.
THERE'S THREE PACE POWER THERE.
NO, IT'D BE TOO NOISY FOR THE COURTHOUSE.
UM, SO MAYBE WE TUCK THE S EDUCATION.
'CAUSE THEY'RE, AS YOU KNOW, SUCH A GREAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN STONE, EVERY STEP OF THE WAY THAT I'VE SEEN IN THE LAST SCHOOL.
WELL, LIKE YOU SAID, THAT WORK CULTURE PROGRAM IS HUGE.
WELL, THEY MOVED AUTOMOTIVE OUT AND THAT'S JUST LEFT HORTICULTURE THERE AND THAT'S IT.
AND THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INCOME TO SUPPORT THE MAINTENANCE OF BUILDING.
AND I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD, UM, REYNOLDS HAS BEEN A, YOU KNOW, A GREAT PARTNER AND PROVIDED INFORMATION, UM, TO LOOK FOR USE OF THE BUILDING.
AND I HAVE A, UM, A SLIDE DECK THAT I CAN SEND YOU THAT HAS LIKE ALL THE DETAILS OF THE BUILDING AND SQUARE FOOTAGE AND YEARS AND ALL THAT OTHER GOOD STUFF ON IT.
I CAN FORWARD YOU THIS LETTER FROM DAVID TOO.
AND I'LL SUGGEST WE, UH, CAN BRING THAT UP THE NEXT MEETING AND CONSIDER, OR IF YOU GOT IT, LET'S SEE.
SAY IF, IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WANT TO, I CAN, UM, IF YOU WANNA GO AHEAD AND MOTION AND VOTE TO WRITE A LETTER OF SUPPORT, LISA CAN SEND ME THE DRAFT LETTER.
I CAN PUT IT IN FORM AND THEN SEND IT TO THE EDA MEMBERS.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT'D BE SOMETHING FROM THE, FROM THE AUTHORITY.
SO YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE TO DO THAT, BUT, AND THAT, THAT WAY BY THE FACT THAT WE HAD A MOTION, THEN I CAN JUST SEND THAT ONCE THE LETTER'S APPROVED.
WELL I WILL MOVE THAT, THAT WE GO AHEAD AND, AND DRAFT A LETTER OF SUPPORT TO, UH, THE, UH, BOARD HEALTH DEPARTMENT AT REYNOLDS IN SUPPORT OF THEIR, TRYING TO KEEP THEIR PROGRAM SECOND.
UH, THERE THE FIRST SECOND ON THE MOTION.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF THE MOTION? HEARING NONE.
ALL OPPOSED, ANY EXTENSIONS? SO WE HAVE SARAH, I'LL WORK WITH YOU ON IT.
ACTUALLY I DON'T HAVE MUCH OF A TOURISM UPDATE THIS EVENING.
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WE DID APPLY TO THE, UM, VTCS MARKETING GRANT AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD BACK YET.THEY SEND IT APRIL AND IT'S APRIL 17TH.
BUT, UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION, UH, JUST A REMINDER, THE GLAND DAY
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IS MAY 18TH.YOU GUYS ARE GREAT SPONSORS OF THAT.
SO THE 17TH IS A CONCERT AND THEN THE 18TH IS ACTUALLY GLAND DAY WITH THAT.
YOU GUYS GOT, UH, A BOOTH? SO, UH, CHANCE AND I WILL BE AT NANNYING THE BOOTH.
SO IF YOU WANNA COME BETWEEN 11 AND THREE, THAT'LL ALLOW US TO GO GET A GLASS OF WINE WHILE YOU AT THE BOOTH.
UM, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE HANDING OUT LIKE TOURISM STUFF AND UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.
YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY BU THIS YEAR.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO GONNA BE A NICE BANNER WE CREATED.
A NICE BANNER, UM, THAT'S GOT, UM, LIKE GOOCHLAND, EDA SUPPORTS, UM, UH, MUTUAL DAY FOUNDATION.
IT'S NOT A DUNKING BOOTH THAT YOU, UM, AND THEN MR. COLLIER REQUESTED THAT WE BRING UP THIS UNDER OTHER BUSINESS.
DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THAT? YEAH, I, UM, I ACTUALLY, UM, VOLUNTEER FUSION CARES AND IT'S A, IT'S A HUGE PROGRAM, UH, IN, WITHIN THE COUNTY THAT, THAT FEEDS A LOT OF, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN NEED.
AND IT ALSO HAS, UM, MEDICAL SERVICES AVAILABLE THERE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM HERE.
AND, UM, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE.
AND I'VE TALKED TO SOMEONE, UH, FEED, FEED MORE SUPPORTS GLAND CARES IN A, IN A IN A WAY.
SO, UM, MY POINT IS, IS THAT, UH, THERE'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW, THE NUMBERS ARE AMAZING ABOUT SO MUCH FOOD AS THEY BRING IN AND THEY GET OUT AND UM, SO I'M, I'M PROUD THAT THEY'RE IN GLAND IN IT DOING SOME SO WELL, UM, THE PERSON I'VE TALKED TO AT FEED MORE SAYS THAT THEY'RE LIKE A, A POSTER, A ROLE MODEL FOR OTHER PLACES IN THE STATE.
THEY ABSOLUTELY ARE JUST TOP, EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE.
SO, UM, THEY ARE HAVING AN ANNUAL GOLF TOURNAMENT, THEY SIXTH AND I WANTED TO SUGGEST TO THE BOARD TO CONSIDER SPOTS FROM THE WHOLE SO THAT WE CAN SUPPORT GLAND CARES AND ALSO, UM, YOU KNOW, LET LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL, WE'RE OUT HERE WORKING FOR THEM AND UH, KIND OF PROMOTE BDA WHERE THEY CAN ALL COUNTY.
UM, IT'S TWO $25 AND WE WOULD JUST NEED TO PROVIDE A LOGO FOR A SIGN THAT THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD FILE THE SIGNAGE, I BELIEVE.
SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE OF A, UM, IN THIS MEETING IN ORDER TO DO IT SINCE IT'S COMING UP SO SOON.
I HAVE, I HAVE A TEAM I'VE ALREADY PUT TOGETHER, SORRY,
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I CAN DISCUSS THAT.
I'M PAYING FOR THAT THROUGH MY BUSINESS, BUT I DID WANT TO SEE IF THE DA WOULD LIKE TO GET INVOLVED.
I MOVED AND WE SPONSOR A POLL FOR $225.
WHAT'S THE DATE? D OH, I'M SORRY.
UH, AND SO DISCUSSION, YOU SAY IT'S UH, 2, 2 20 $5.
YEAH, THAT'S THE, THE CHEAPEST, UH, WAY TO SUPPORT THEM.
AND FOR THE BA ARE THEY TAKING RAFFLE DONATIONS AS WELL? THEY, I DIDN'T ASK BECAUSE IT'S THREE.
I SHOULD KNOW IF LIKE YOU NEEDED FISCAL DONATIONS OF REC PRIZES OR, UM, I'M NOT AWARE.
I DID NOT GET INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION.
UM, THEY ARE VERY RESPONSE IF I FORGOT OUR NAME, APOLOGIZE.
BUT, UM, I WAS THINKING THAT THAT WOULD BE THE LEAST EXPENSIVE OPTION.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, UM, PRICES WE CAN ASK.
I CAN ASK BUT JUST HAVE YOU MOTION FAVOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE STATE AYE.
ALL OPPOSED, ANY AB EXTENSIONS? SO PASSES.
WHICH HALL? AND I HEARD SALLY GRAHAM WAS RETIRED.
[VI. Other Business]
AND THEN SPEAKING OF GOLF TOURNAMENTS, THE CHAMBER GOLF TOURNAMENTS IS MAY 20TH AS PART OF YOUR CHAMBER MEMBERSHIP, YOU GET, UH, TEAM, UM, AND SO HISTORICALLY DB HAS PLAYED, I THINK IF WE TALKED TO HIM TO SEE IF HE'S STILL AVAILABLE.MR. COLLIER AND THEN CHANCE
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THE LAST TIME? 16.WE GOING LOW THIS THOUGH? OH, I THINK WE POSTED, I'M KNOW IF YOU WERE PLAYING.
WE POSTED 13 UNDER, THAT WAS THIRD PLACE.
OH, WE ACTUALLY KNOW THE BUSINESS, RIGHT? YEP.
AND THAT IS, UH, IS THERE AN UPDATE THAT YOU WANT PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE, UH, OFFER SITUATION? OH YEAH.
UM, THE, UH, POTENTIAL, UH, PURCHASER HAS ACCEPTED THE, UM, OPTION, UH, THAT WAS PROVIDED.
SO HE DID THAT PROBABLY ABOUT A MONTH AGO, MAYBE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
PROVIDED THAT THE PAYMENT, SO THAT'S BEEN DEPOSITED INTO YOUR, UM, ACCOUNT.
AND SO HE'S UNDER HIS YEAR DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD AT THIS POINT.
IS THAT, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE HAVE ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY LEFT THAT THE EDA STILL OWNS IN THE COUNTY AND IT'S OUT IN MID POINT.
AND WHAT HAPPENED IS INDIVIDUAL CAME TO A CORPORATION, CAME TO US, AND UH, ASKED IF, UH, WE WOULD SELL.
AND SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF AND ASKED TO STILL GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
BUT NO RE RESIGNING OR ANYTHING.
WE WENT THROUGH OUR ATTORNEY TO, UM, TO PUT TOGETHER THIS AGREEMENT AND ALSO WE ALSO HAD A, A ASSESSMENT APPRAISAL, AN APPRAISAL DONE AS WELL.
SO WE'VE DONE SOME DUE DILIGENCE.
UM, SO WE'RE PRETTY, PRETTY PLEASED WITH THE OUTCOME POTENTIAL FOR OUR TREASURER.
IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS FORTH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ADJOURN.
YEAH, THAT'S NOT OUR NEXT MEETING WE WE'RE CANCELING, SO YEAH, I'LL CHANGE THAT.
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UH, SECOND.ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE STATE AYE.