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[I. Call to Order]
CALL TO ORDER THE JUNE 4TH, 2024 MEETING OF THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.WE WILL NOW HEAR OUR INVOCATION LED BY PASTOR NEIL MCLAUGHLIN OF CO CORINTH
[II. Invocation]
UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, LED BY VICE CHAIRMAN TOM WINFREY.MERCIFUL AND LOVING GOD, YOU ARE THE AUTHOR OF LIFE AND THE SOURCE OF ALL TRUTH.
HELP US LIVE LIVES OF GENEROSITY AND INTEGRITY THAT ARE ROOTED IN YOUR LOVE AND GUIDE IT BY THE VALUES OF YOUR WORD.
GRANT, THAT IN OUR SERVICE TO GLAND COUNTY, WE BRING THE DEPTH OF OUR FAITH, THE VIGOR OF OUR DISCIPLESHIP, AND CLARITY OF VISION ONLY YOUR SPIRIT CAN IMPART.
AS WE GATHER TODAY, WE SEEK YOUR WISDOM AND GUIDANCE.
PROTECT US FROM SELF-INTEREST AND NARROW AGENDAS.
TEACH US HUMILITY AND MAKE US HUNGRY FOR YOUR WILL.
BE WITH US IN OUR DISCUSSIONS AND GUIDE OUR DECISION.
SO WE ALWAYS DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND JUST, AND SERVE WORTHILY THOSE WHO RELY ON US TO FOCUS THE VISION, SET THE AGENDA, AND ENSURE THE VIABILITY OF THIS NOBLE INSTITUTION.
AND MAY OUR SERVICE BRING YOU GLORY, YOU WHO ARE OUR LOVING AND MERCIFUL LORD, NOW AND FOREVER.
[III. Pledge of Allegiance]
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.[IV. Chair's Comments]
UM, I'LL LEAD OFF WITH SOME BRIEF COMMENTS.UM, ANYONE WHO CAME FROM OUTSIDE IS WELL AWARE SUMMER IS HERE.
UM, SO JUST, UM, I WILL TURN YOUR ATTENTION TO THE LAST PAGE OF OUR AGENDA, WHICH SHOWS WE DO HAVE WITH COUNTY ADMINISTRATION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, A VERY BUSY SUMMER WITH A NUMBER OF ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.
SO, UM, PLEASE REFER TO THE UPCOMING JULY, UM, ITEMS, LIKE I SAID ON THE LAST PAGE, ON PAGES FOUR AND FIVE OF YOUR AGENDA.
UM, ADDITIONALLY I WILL MENTION THAT EARLY VOTING IS CURRENTLY GOING ON FOR THE JUNE 18TH PRIMARY.
AND FINALLY, UM, FIRST HALF TAXES ARE DUE TODAY.
SO IF, UH, TOMORROW, TODAY, OR TOMORROW, JUNE 5TH TODAY.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T, UM, TOMORROW.
SO IF YOU HAVEN'T YET, UM, WE WILL BE APPRECIATIVE.
UH, BUT ADDITIONALLY, UM, JUST, UH, GO SEE THE TREASURER'S OFFICE.
UH, WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO VIC CARPENTER FOR HIS COMMENTS.
MR. CHAIR MEMBERS, THE BOARD, JUST TWO ITEMS
[V. County Administrator's Comments]
TO, UH, BRING YOUR ATTENTION.AS A REMINDER, UH, COUNTY, UH, OFFICES AND FACILITIES WILL BE CLOSED IN A REMEMBRANCE OF JUNETEENTH ON, UH, JUNE THE 19TH, AND ALSO ON JULY 4TH AS WE CELEBRATE OUR NATION'S, UH, FOUNDING AND INDEPENDENCE.
ALL COUNTY FACILITIES WILL BE CLOSED THOSE DAYS.
UH, WOULD ALSO, UM, UH, REMIND THE BOARD THAT, UH, MYSELF AND MR. GILLESPIE WILL BE OUT OF TOWN, UM, FOR THE LAST HALF OF THIS WEEK AS WE ATTEND THE, UM, ANNUAL CONFERENCE OF COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS, UH, FOR THIS SUMMER.
BUT WE'LL BE AVAILABLE AS NEEDED.
UM, AS A RESULT OF THE REQUEST BY
[VI. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the Order of Presentation]
DEVELOPER SIDNEY AND SYDNEY TO DEFER THE PUBLIC HEARING, RZ DASH 2024 DASH ONE AT THE 6:00 PM MEETING, UH, SHOWN AS ITEM ONE IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING, THERE WILL BE A VOTE TO DEFER THAT ITEM TO A FUTURE DATE.UM, FELLOW SUPERVISORS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER REQUESTED CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? OKAY, SEEING NONE, UH, WE'LL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.
CITIZENS ARE REMINDED THAT COMMENTS SHOULD BE ABOUT
[VII. Citizen Comment]
ITEMS NOT COVERED BY THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEING HELD TONIGHT.COMMENTS SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL AND NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IN LENGTH.
SHOULD MULTIPLE CITIZENS WISH TO HAVE A COMMON SPEAKER, THEY MAY SEE THEIR TIME IN TWO MINUTE INCREMENTS, UP TO A TOTAL ALLOTTED TIME OF
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10 MINUTES PER BOARD'S RULES OF PROCEDURES.SECTION 3.2, A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME INTENDED TO BE NO MORE THAN AN HOUR IS ALLOCATED TO COMMENT.
I WILL NOW OPEN UP TO CITIZEN COMMENTS SET.
JEN STROGER, UM, 1810 FOX DOWNS LAME DISTRICT THREE.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
UM, I WROTE ALL OF YOU EARLIER AND I, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK I GOT.
UM, I KNOW TONIGHT YOU'RE GONNA BE APPOINTING THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY TRUSTEE.
UM, AND I AM ASKING, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
UM, I'M VERY MUCH CONCERNED WITH THE WAY OUR, UH, P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD IS GOING AS OPPOSED TO, UM, IN ITS EFFORTS TO, WHAT I SEE IS QUASH OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
UM, WE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE BOARD THAT ARE MORE RESTRICTIVE IN HOW THEY WANT TO, UM, ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO MATERIAL.
AND I'M ASKING BECAUSE EVERY, I JUST PAID MY TAXES.
UM, A REMINDER, I PAID MY TAXES TODAY.
I PAY FOR, UM, THE EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY WHO DID VOTE FOR YOU ALL, UM, PAID FOR AND OUR SCHOOLS AND, UM, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND, UM, SO I WOULD LIKE THAT LIBRARY TO REFLECT, UM, ME, MY FAMILY, MYSELF, MY NEIGHBORS, THE PEOPLE I LOVE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, AND I AM VERY MUCH CONCERNED THAT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ALL HAVE TALKED TO, UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LIBRARY, HAVE BEEN VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE REALLY EMPHASIZING OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT AND OUR ABILITY TO GO INTO THE LIBRARY AND READ ABOUT, UM, THE HISTORY OF BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE, THE HISTORY OF QUEER PEOPLE, THE HISTORY OF EVERYBODY IN OUR COUNTY.
IT IS NOT A DANGEROUS THING TO LEARN ABOUT PEOPLE WHO AREN'T LIKE YOU.
IT IS A UPLIFTING STORY TO READ ABOUT RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY AND HOW BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE HAVE COME TOGETHER TO CONQUER THAT AND TO BRING US TO WHERE WE ARE.
WE'VE HAD A BLACK PRESIDENT WHERE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE IN POSITIONS OF POWER.
SO I AM ASKING YOU, UM, AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ALL RECEIVED MANY APPLICATIONS, VERY QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO BE ON THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD, AND I'M ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER ALL OF THOSE APPLICATIONS, ALL OF THEIR QUALIFICATIONS, SO THAT WE HAVE A DIVERSE BOARD THAT REF REFLECTS EVERYBODY IN OUR COUNTY, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
UM, AND I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE THIS UP HERE.
IT'S JUST SOME MORE INFORMATION.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND STAFF.
I'M KEITH BURGESS, DISTRICT MANAGER FOR THE MONON SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT, AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MONON SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT WILL BEGIN WORKING ON OUR FOUR YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN.
BEGINNING NEXT MONTH, WE WILL BE ASKING BOTH UCHIN AND PAL AND COUNTIES TO PROVIDE PRESENTATIONS ON HOW WE CAN CONTINUE OUR PARTNERSHIP TO CONSERVE OUR SOIL AND WATER RESOURCES.
PART OF THE COUNTY PRESENTATION SHOULD BE RELATED TO CURRENT AND FUTURE AGRICULTURAL LAND USES AND THE AGRICULTURAL ECONOMY.
YOUTH AND ADULT EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS SHOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED IN, MIGHT BE IN CONSULTATION WITH VIRGINIA COOPERATIVE EXTENSION AND UCHIN PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
IF THERE ARE OTHER AREAS IN WHICH THE COUNTY DOES IT AS ASSISTANCE, THAT SHOULD ALSO BE INCLUDED.
WE WILL WORK WITH YOUR LIAISON APPOINTED TO OUR BOARD THROUGH YOU TO COORDINATE A PRESENTATION TIME BASED UPON APPROVED COUNTY BUDGETS.
UCHIN COUNTY MIGHT ANTICIPATE A 20% REDUCTION IN SERVICES TO CITIZENS AND AGRICULTURAL PRODUCERS NOT PARTICIPATING IN THE VIRGINIA AGRICULTURAL COST SHARE PROGRAM.
FOR THE 2024 VIRGINIA AGRICULTURAL COST SHARE PROGRAM YEAR, MONON WAS ALLOCATED $1.9 MILLION.
WE ALLOCATED $1,039,000 TO AGRICULTURAL OPERATIONS FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF BEST MANAGEMENT SOIL AND MORTAR CONSERVATION PRACTICES.
AT THE MAY MEETING, WE RELEASED $764,000 OF UNREQUESTED VIRGINIA AGRICULTURAL COST SHARE FUNDS, AND WILL RETURN THE ASSOCIATED $72,000 OF TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE FUNDS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION RECREATION.
DCR WILL REDISTRIBUTE THOSE FUNDS PER THE VIRGINIA SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD POLICIES ALSO RELATED TO THE VAX PROGRAM.
IT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO DISTRIBUTE MONICA'S FULL ALLOCATION FOR TWO PRIMARY REASONS.
MONICA CONTINUES TO ENTER INTO LONG-TERM CONTRACTS OF FIVE TO 15 YEARS ON SOME AGRICULTURAL LANDS WITH PRODUCERS.
THESE CONTRACTS RECEIVE PAYMENTS IN THE YEAR IN WHICH THE BMPS ARE IMPLEMENTED AND ARE NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR ANNUAL CONTRACTS.
ALSO, AS UCHIN AND PAAN LOSE AGRICULTURAL ACRES, THERE'S LESS
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CROP LAND, HAY AND PASTURE LAND.THERE'S LESS LAND ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE COST SHARE ASSISTANCE.
MONICA ALSO CONTINUES TO ACTIVELY MANAGE OUR RESERVE FUNDS.
MOST OF THE INTEREST GENERATED FROM THOSE RESERVE FUNDS IS RESTRICTED AND THEREFORE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR GENERAL OPERATIONS.
MONICA IS SUBJECT TO INTERNAL POLICIES, ALONG WITH POLICIES MANDATED BY THE VIRGINIA SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD AND THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION RECREATION TO PROMOTE SIGNED PHYSICAL MANAGEMENT.
MONICA PROVIDES ALSO A TIME ON OUR AGENDA FOR GUCCI COUNTY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS TO OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS DURING COUNTY LIAISON REPORT TIMES, AND ALSO DURING OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
WE ENCOURAGE ATTENDANCE AND PARTICIPATION IN COORDINATION WITH YOUR LIAISON.
I'M BARBARA SLOAN, DISTRICT THREE MAINTENANCE.
I HAVE SERVED WITH BARBARA YOUNG ON THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES SINCE LAST SUMMER WHEN YOU APPOINTED ME TO REPLACE A DEPARTING TRUSTEE, I'M HONORED THAT YOU PUT YOUR TRUST IN ME BEFORE I AGREED TO THE POSITION.
I MET WITH BARB YOUNG, WHO AT THE TIME WAS NOT THE CHAIR.
SHE GAVE ME HER VERY HONEST OPINION OF THE STATE OF THE BOARD AND THE PROBLEMS THAT SHE HAD ATTEMPTED TO OFFER SOLUTIONS FOR.
SHE AT THE TIME WAS THWARTED AT EVERY TURN DUE TO THE COMPOSITION OF THE BOARD AT THE TIME.
BARBARA'S BEEN OUR CHAIRMAN SINCE LAST AUGUST AND HIT THE GROUND RUNNING.
SHE CREATED A THOUGHTFUL, FOCUSED PATH TO UPDATE OUR OBSOLETE BYLAWS.
SHE TAKES THE FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BOARD AND THE USE OF TAXPAYER MONEY VERY SERIOUSLY.
WHEN WE WERE INFORMED BY HANOVER COUNTY, OUR FISCAL AGENT LAST FALL, THAT OUR FISCAL YEAR 22 AND SU SUBSEQUENTLY, OUR FISCAL YEAR 23 AUDITS WERE LATE.
WE WERE CAUGHT BY SURPRISE AS THE LIBRARY DIRECTOR HAD LED US TO BELIEVE THE PROCESS WAS MOVING ALONG AND COMPLETION WOULD BE IMMINENT.
BARB FORMED AN AUDIT GROUP AND WITH THE HANOVER COUNTY ADMINISTRATION MEMBERS INSTITUTED WEEKLY ZOOM SESSIONS WITH THE CPA FIRM AND LIBRARY STAFF TO GET REAL TIME AUDIT UPDATES.
WE HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO, BUT TO APPROVE FUNDS FOR A CPA'S ASSISTANCE WITH FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AND OTHER AUDIT TASKS THAT WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE TOLD WERE BEING HANDLED BY LIBRARY STAFF.
IT HAS BEEN MADE CRYSTAL CLEAR TO OUR LIBRARY DIRECTOR THAT THERE WILL BE NO GRACE PERIOD FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 AUDIT.
BARB HAS INCLUDED OUR GENERAL COUNSEL TO ASSIST IN UPDATING OUR OLD POORLY FORMATTED POLICIES.
WE ARE PEELING BACK THE LAYERS TO REVEAL TRANSPARENT FINANCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY AND REPORTING TO THE TAXPAYERS OF GULAM HANOVER AND KING WILLIAM.
SHE HAS STARTED A COMMITTEE TO CREATE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN THAT IS MANDATED IN OUR BYLAWS AND IS ALREADY FIVE YEARS LATE.
BARBARA YOUNG IS A KIND, INTELLIGENT, GENEROUS PERSON WHO LOVES OUR LIBRARY AND RESPECTS THE CITIZENS WHO USE AND PAY FOR IT.
THE PEOPLE OF THIS COUNTY DESERVE NO LESS.
SHE AND OTHERS ON THE BOARD HAVE BEEN VILIFIED FOR PROPOSING THAT OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM MOVES SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIAL OUT OF THE CHILDREN'S SECTION AND INTO THE ADULT SECTION.
NOT A LOCKED ROOM, NO BOOK BANNING, NO BOOK REMOVAL, NO CENSORSHIP, NO RESTRICTED ACCESS, BUT SIMPLY PLACING GRAPHIC SEXUAL MATERIAL TO AN AGE APPROPRIATE SECTION.
I NEVER THOUGHT I'D SEE THE DAY WHEN PARENTS WOULD FIGHT FOR THE RIGHT, FOR THEIR NINE YEAR OLDS TO BRING HOME LURID BOOKS FROM THE KIDS SECTION OF THE LIBRARY THAT INSTRUCTS THEM WITH DETAILED PICTURES, HOW TO PLEASURE THEMSELVES AND OTHERS SEXUALLY.
OUR TAXPAYERS DESERVE BETTER, AND BARBARA YOUNG IS JUST THAT I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO REAPPOINT HER AS WE WILL BOTH NEED YOUR CONTINUOUS SUPPORT TO KEEP OUR LIBRARY STRONG.
MY NAME IS WENDY HOBBS AND I LIVE IN SANDY HOOK.
UM, I ACTUALLY STAND FOR TWO REASON, MR. CARPENTER.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU THIS EVERY YEAR WHEN YOU DO YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT THAT JUNETEENTH IS THE INDEPENDENCE DAY FOR SLAVES.
AND, AND I WOULD APPRECIATE THIS BOARD ACKNOWLEDGING THAT PUBLICLY AS WE DO JULY THE FOURTH.
THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO IS THE LIBRARY.
I'M GONNA BE HONEST WITH YOU, I HAVEN'T KEPT UP WITH A LOT OF THE RHETORIC THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON WITH THE LIBRARY, BUT I DO STAND HERE TO SAY THAT WHATEVER DECISIONS ARE MADE, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE A DIVERSE BOARD THAT GOVERNS WHAT GOES ON WITH THE LIBRARY.
THE ONLY PERSON THAT I DO KNOW THAT'S ON THE LIBRARY IS BARBARA, AND SHE JUST SPOKE.
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I HAVE NO OPINIONS ABOUT ANYONE ELSE, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED TO HAVE DIVERSITY.WE NEED TO HAVE DIFFERENT VIEWS ON THE BOARD TO ENSURE THAT ALL CITIZENS' VIEWS ARE REPRESENTED.
AND I WOULD SAY AS, UM, AS WE KNOW, AS WE CELEBRATE JUNETEENTH SLAVES WERE NOT ALLOWED TO READ.
AND IF YOU GO BACK A LITTLE FURTHER, COME FORWARD A LITTLE FURTHER, IN THE FIFTIES AND SIXTIES LIBRARY, WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO BLACK PEOPLE AS THEY ARE TODAY.
AND PEOPLE COULDN'T GO FREELY INTO THE LIBRARIES.
AND OUR CITIZENS ARE DIVERSE, AND WE SHOULD HAVE A LIBRARY THAT REPRESENTS THAT.
AND I'VE HEARD OF LIBRARIES PULLING OUT OF THE MONKEY SYSTEM, AND I QUESTION, HOW IS THAT GOING TO IMPACT US AS CITIZENS WHEN IT COMES TO PROVIDING THE FUNDS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE LIBRARY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE HERE WHEN THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY WERE DEVELOPED TO EVEN GET A LIBRARY IN THIS COUNTY IN A RURAL AREA.
I GREW UP IN A RURAL AREA THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT PLEASURE.
WE HAVE A LIBRARY HERE, AND WHAT I ASK IS THAT YOU AS A BOARD SUPPORT OUR LIBRARY SUPPORT THE, IT IS MORE THAN BOOKS IN THE LIBRARY.
PEOPLE USE THE INTERNET AND EVERYTHING ELSE, APPLICATIONS FOR JOBS.
AND WE JUST MAY NEED TO ENSURE THAT THAT DOES NOT BE PUT AT RISK AT ANY, AT ANY LEVEL.
AND I ASK THAT YOU ALL KEEP THAT IN MIND AS YOU MAKE YOUR DECISIONS, UM, ABOUT WHO YOU SELECT FOR THE LIBRARY BOARD, BUT ALSO MAKE THAT DECISION IN THE INTEREST OF ALL THE CITIZENS OF GLAND COUNTY.
MY NAME IS CONNIE PIPER, AND I'M A LONG TIME AND FREQUENT USER OF THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY SYSTEM.
IN THE PAST 20 OR SO YEARS, MY FA FAMILY HAS SAVED.
MA'AM, CAN YOU GIVE YOUR, CAN YOU GIVE YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? UM, I WILL GIVE MY ADDRESS.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT I LIVE IN HANOVER.
I DID NOT SEE ANYTHING IN YOUR POLICY TO PROHIBIT ME FROM SPEAKING SINCE THIS IS UNK.
IT'S, UM, DO YOU NEED MY FULL ADDRESS? YES, PLEASE.
1 4 4 6 6 OVERLOOK RIDGE LANE BEAVER DAM, VIRGINIA 2 3 0 1 5.
UM, ANYWAY, IN THE PAST 20 OR SO YEARS, MY FAMILY HAS SAVED TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS BY BORROWING MATERIALS FOR FREE, ATTENDING AMAZING PROGRAMS, PARTICIPATING IN SUMMER READING, AND USING STUDY AND MEETING ROOM SPACE.
WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ASSISTED BY COURTEOUS, WELCOMING, AND KNOWLEDGEABLE STAFF.
I HAVE APPRECIATED THE WIDE RANGE OF MATERIALS AND ACCESS MY CHILDREN AND I HAVE HAD OVER THE YEARS, AND THE POLICIES THAT HAVE PROTECTED OUR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO READ AND THAT HAVE EMPOWERED ME AS A PARENT TO DECIDE WHICH RESOURCES WERE MOST APPROPRIATE FOR MY TWO VERY DIFFERENT CHILDREN AT VARIOUS AGES AND STAGES.
IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT YOU ARE APPOINTING A BOARD OF TRUSTEE MEMBER LATER IN TODAY'S MEETING, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THE WIDE RANGE OF CANDIDATES WHO HAVE APPLIED AND NOT SIMPLY RUBBER STAMP THE CURRENT REPRESENTATIVE.
I FEEL IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO REVIEW ALL OF THE CANDIDATES, YOU WILL FIND ONE WHO IS IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE GOALS AND OPERATION OF OUR HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY.
IT SADDENS ME TO IMAGINE A TIME OR A COMMUNITY WHERE OUR MEMBERS DO NOT HAVE FREE AND OPEN ACCESS TO INFORMATION.
THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT OF OUR LIBRARIES.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN BOARD.
I LIVE AT 37 52 ROBINSON ROAD.
I'M A RESIDENT AND DISTRICT TWO.
I'M HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF MRS. BARBARA YOUNG'S REAPPOINTMENT TO THE P**N LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
RECENTLY GOT TO SPEND, UH, SOME TIME WITH MRS. YOUNG, VOLUNTEERING FOR A WOMEN'S GROUP ON A PROJECT.
SHE WAS A TIRELESS HARD WORKER WITH AN UNCOMPLAINING SPIRIT AND SOMEONE I ENJOYED SPENDING TIME WITH.
UH, SHE IS A WOMAN OF CHARACTER AND A JOY TO BE AROUND.
SHE'S ALSO, WELL, A WELL-RESPECTED MEMBER OF HER CHURCH COMMUNITY WHO PEOPLE LOOK TO FOR ADVICE.
I BELIEVE SHE WILL CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY WELL.
AND WITH THAT SAME SPIRIT, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU, MRS. HI, MY NAME'S MEREDITH MOSES.
I'M FROM DISTRICT ONE AND I, UM, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT BARBARA YOUNG AS A TRUSTEE OF THE LIBRARY.
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SHE TAKES HER RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUSLY.SHE CARES ABOUT OUR PEOPLE, OUR LIBRARY, OUR FAMILIES, AND I HOPE THAT YOU GUYS SUPPORT HER AS WELL.
ANY MORE? CITIZENS? HELLO, I'M BRETT.
2, 3, 4, 5 DEEN TOWN ROAD GLAND.
UH, DISTRICT ONE, BRETT, LAST NAME.
I AM HERE ALSO TO TALK ABOUT THE LIBRARIES AND LET ME FIRST SAY I'M GAY.
NOT THAT CRAZY, BUT THE SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIAL THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED IN THIS MEETING, I THINK IS NOT RESPECTIVE TO WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.
I THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST LIKE ME, WHO ARE YOUNGER WHEN THEY REALIZE THEY WERE GAY.
AND IT'S NOT THAT CRAZY TO READ BOOKS ABOUT OTHER GAY PEOPLE.
AND I THINK WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THAT.
AND THEY'RE NOT SEXUALLY EXPLICIT.
THEY'RE NOT, IT'S NOT PORNOGRAPHY.
OKAY? THIS IS A, A LIBRARY AND WE NEED TO BE RESPECTIVE OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO ARE JUST LIKE ME.
OKAY? AND WE NEED TO BE REPRESENTING PEOPLE LIKE ME.
LIKE ALL OF YOU, REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY.
SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE MINUTES FROM TWO PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UM,
[VIII. Approval of Action Minutes]
THE BUDGET PUBLIC HEARING OF APRIL 16TH, 2024 AT 5:00 PM AND THE REGULAR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING OF MAY 7TH, 2024.DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BOTH OF THEM AS A GROUP? SO MOVED A SECOND.
I'LL NOW ASK, I'LL NOW ASK MR. MARSHALL WYNN TO, UM, PRESENT THE VDOT REPORT AND MR. CLIFF HELLER TO
[IX. Reports]
PRESENT OUR NEW COUNTY EMPLOYEES TO THE BOARD.UM, ALL OTHER REPORTS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, MR. WYNN.
[1. VDOT - June 2024]
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER MARSHALL WYNN WITH VDOT, UH, THIS PAST MONTH WE HAD 155 WORK ORDERS COMPLETED 145 AND HAD 11 CALLOUTS AFTER HOUR.CALLOUTS BEEN DOING REGULAR POTHOLE AND ASPHALT REPAIRS, PIPE CLEANING AND, AND REPLACEMENT, UH, DITCHING, UH, TREE AND DEBRIS REMOVAL, LITTER PICKUP COMPLETED.
THEIR FIRST CYCLE OF PRIMARY MO WILL BEGIN ANOTHER CYCLE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS ON THE PRIMARY SYSTEM.
SECONDARY MO, UH, CYCLE STARTED TODAY.
THEY USUALLY START IN THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY AND WORK THEIR WAY EAST.
SO YOU'LL BE SEEING 'EM OUT ON THE ROAD IN, IN THE COMING WEEKS.
UH, RESURFACING SCHEDULE THAT'S ONGOING, UH, SHOULD BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF JUNE IN MY OPINION.
UM, BUT IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT SCHEDULE WORK, ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS GET WITH ME AND I'LL GET WITH THE CMS OR WHATEVER THEY'RE IN CHARGE OF THAT.
OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.
NOT UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THE, UH, LINE MARKINGS AT ROUTE SIX AND GEORGE TAVERN FOR THOSE TO BE COMPLETE? THEY SHOULD HAVE PUT TEMPORARY MARKINGS DOWN.
I, I HAD A CONSTITUENT THAT REACHED OUT AND SPECIFICALLY ASKED ABOUT LIKE THE, THE FINAL MARKINGS.
UM, ARE THEY THE PAINT OR ARE THEY THE TAPE SECTION SITTING UP? I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE.
I BELIEVE IT'S JUST THE PAINT.
LIKE IT'S THIN, THIN PAINTED LINES.
I MEAN, I CAN FIND OUT EXACTLY WHEN THEY SHOULD BE PUTTING BACK THERMOPLASTIC OKAY.
WITH THE GLASS BEADS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, MR. WYNN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, FOR THE NEW SIGNS THAT ARE AT, UH, HERMITAGE AND, UH, MANNEQUIN ROAD 6 21, UM, UH, I, I GUESS,
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WHAT IS IT? IF YOU GIVE A MOUSE A COOKIE, THEY'RE GONNA WANT MORE.UH, I'VE BEEN ASKED IF RUMBLE STRIPS AND A FLASHING STOP SIGN MIGHT ALSO BE POSSIBLE THERE.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP I UNDERSTAND.
WE, WE UPSIZE THE SIGNS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE STOP AHEAD AND THE STOP SIGNS AND WE PUT REFLECTIVE TAPE ON THE POST AND EVERYTHING.
SO, LIKE MY COLLEAGUE, I WAS TOLD I'VE GOTTA, AND I'M ASKING, I'VE GOTTA GET APPROVAL THROUGH TRAFFIC ENGINEERING TO PUT FLASHING SIGNS OUT.
IF, IF, IF WE STILL CONTINUE TO HAVE ACCIDENTS AT THAT INTERSECTION.
AND YOU AND I SPOKE BRIEFLY AND I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED THIS, THAT THE, THE PAVING THAT'S GOING ON ROUTE SIX YES.
I HAD A CONSTITUENT ADVISE, THEY HAD A BLOWOUT, A TIRE BLOWOUTS AND I'VE GONE AND LOOKED AND IT'S A NICE TWO AND A HALF.
YOU'RE PUTTING DOWN SOME REALLY SERIOUS ASPHALT.
BUT IS THERE ANY WAY TO KIND OF BEVEL THAT OR SOMEHOW THEY SHOULD, THEY SHOULD BE PUTTING A WEDGE ON ON THOSE SPOTS AND I WILL GET WITH THE CM, THE, THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER ABOUT PLEASE DO THAT.
'CAUSE I, AFTER THIS MEETING, I'M GOING UP TO LOOK AT IT MYSELF, SO.
ALRIGHT, WELL IT'S UH, BOSQUEVILLE FERRY ROAD.
YOU, WHY AM I TELLING YOU WHERE THE ROADS ARE IN THE COUNTY? OH, OKAY.
UM, ALSO, UH, DURING THE MAY DELUGES, BOTH BLAIR AND PAGE BOOK ROADS HAD WATER SHEETING ACROSS THEM.
I KNOW YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB ON MANNEQUIN ROAD WITH THE DITCHING.
HAS THE DITCHING FOR EITHER OF THOSE ROADS HIT THE RADAR? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE TO KEEP THAT WATER FROM HYDROPLANING POSSIBILITIES? WE, WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO SOME DITCHING IN THERE.
UM, I I'M SURE THE, THE MAINTENANCE MANAGER'S GOTTEN WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT.
'CAUSE IT, THERE'S TWO PLACES WHERE THE PIPE WHERE WE HAVE PIPE CROSSINGS.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A LOCALLY, THAT'S A FLAT SPOT AND IT'S HARDLY ANYWHERE FOR THE WATER TO GO, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AREA AGAIN.
AND, AND YOU AND I SPOKE EARLIER, BUT UH, I NEED COUNSEL ON THE PROCESS TO HAVE WILLOW OAKS ROAD ADDED TO THE TARN SHIP, THE REPRE PAVING.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE DO HERE AT THE COUNTY ON OUR SIX YEAR LIST OR IF WE JUST ASK YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT WILLOW OAKS ROAD.
'CAUSE WE'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED AIRPLANES FOR NEXT YEAR.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S ON THERE, SO I WILL DEFINITELY LOOK AT IT AND GET BACK WITH YOU MR. LYLE.
AND THEN, UH, I'VE ALSO BEEN ASKED THAT SOME FOLKS ARE UPSET WITH TRUCKS COMING THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THERE IS A WHOLE PROCESS OF GETTING NO THROUGH TRUCKS SIGNAGE UP.
AND AND IT COMES FROM THE COUNTY FIRST.
IT STARTS WITH THE COUNTY AND, AND THEN I GUESS THE, THE CONVERSATION DU JOUR IS THE LINE OF SIGHT ISSUE ON ROCKVILLE ROAD WITH, UH, THE TUCKAHOE BRIDGE NORTH SUBDIVISION THAT'S GONE IN, UH, WE ADDED SIGNS YESTERDAY OUT THERE WITH A 25 MILE AN HOUR SPEED LIMIT AND AN INTERSECTION SIGN COMING BOTH WAYS.
I WAS THERE BEFORE YOU WERE, 'CAUSE WHEN I WAS THERE YESTERDAY, I DIDN'T SEE THOSE.
BUT YESTERDAY AFTERNOON I GOT THE PICTURES YESTERDAY AFTERNOON, SO I WAS THERE IN THE MORNING, SO, OKAY.
AND, AND THAT, THAT IS MY LIST, MR. CHAIR.
SO MINE'S GONNA PROBABLY HIT, UM, TRANSPORTATION, FIRE, AND RESCUE.
SO I'LL GET THREE WITH ONE STONE IF THAT'S ALL.
UM, I'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS, UM, REGARDING, UH, WHAT APPEARS TO BE, UH, INCREASED, UH, SERIOUS ACCIDENTS ON 64, UH, ESPECIALLY THROUGH GLAND COUNTY.
UM, I SAW THE, IN THE CHIEF'S REPORT THIS, THIS MONTH, SEVERAL OF OUR SEVERAL ACCIDENTS, UH, WERE ON 64.
AND THEN JUST A COUPLE DAYS AGO I NOTICED THE REPAVING OF THE, THE, THE, UM, SHOULDERS GOING EAST FROM THE REST AREA TO, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE TO MANNEQUIN WITHOUT ANY RUMBLE STRIPS.
SO I'M WONDERING IF THOSE RUMBLE STRIPS, 'CAUSE THEY'RE ON THE, THE NORTH SIDE I GUESS WOULD BE, BUT NOT THE SOUTH SIDE.
UM, BUT IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD DO TO STUDY, LIKE DO WE NEED TO LOOK AT, OR CAN WE GET INFORMATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S A NORMAL NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS ON THERE? IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE, THERE SEEMS TO BE A TON.
THE ONLY THING I CAN DO IS GET WITH TRAFFIC ENGINEERING AND SEE WHAT THE, THE, UH, ACCIDENT RATE IS FROM FIVE YEARS AGO TILL NOW.
I, I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION AND IF I, YOU WANT ME TO SEND IT TO THE CHAIRMAN THAT WAY? YOU CAN, OR JUST TO, TO THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION.
AND PERHAPS CHIEF FERGUSON, YOU COULD OH, COME ON UP.
I, WE'LL GET YOU TO THE MIC TODAY,
EDDIE FERGUSON, FIRE RESCUE CHIEF.
HOWER, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, IN GENERAL, WE HAVE HAD EIGHT HIGHWAY FATALITIES IN GLAND COUNTY SINCE MARCH.
NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN ON INTERSTATE 64.
UH, THREE OF THOSE, OF THOSE EIGHT HAVE
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BEEN ON INTERSTATE 64.UH, I'M NOT A, UM, A POLICE OFFICER BY ANY MEANS, AND I DON'T DO ACCIDENT RECONSTRUCTION.
BUT WHAT I WILL TELL YOU, UH, ONE COMMON DENOMINATOR I SEE IN ALL THESE CRASHES IS EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF SPEED.
AND WHEN YOU INCREASE THE SPEED, UH, YOU SEE ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT, UH, BECOME VERY ABNORMAL WHEN YOU LOOK AT TRAFFIC CRASHES AND, AND ACCIDENTS.
AND MOST LIKELY ALL TOO PREDICTABLE.
UH, WE ARE CERTAINLY, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
UH, SOME HAVE BEEN ON OR SECONDARY ROADS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
UH, AND I WON'T GO INTO ANY DETAILS AND RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO'VE LOST THEIR LIVES, UH, BUT CERTAINLY WE ARE CONCERNED AS WELL.
UH, BUT, BUT AGAIN, UM, IN THE MAJORITY OF THOSE, UH, WHAT I BELIEVE I KNOW AND WHAT I SAW WAS EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS OF SPEED, UH, JUST CHANGES ALL THOSE DYNAMICS OF KINETIC ENERGY AND THE WAY, UH, THINGS OCCUR.
UH, SO THAT'S MY, MY TAKE ON IT.
AND FIRE RESCUE, CERTAINLY, UM, THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO ALL THE FAMILIES WHO'VE LOST, UH, LOVED ONES.
AND I HOPE, UH, THIS IS COMING TO AN ABRUPT END LIKE IMMEDIATELY.
MR. WYN, I, I KNOW A COUPLE YEARS AGO THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING SOME MEDIATION WITH TAKING DOWN SOME OF THE TREES THAT, THAT MIGHT HELP.
IS THERE, IS THERE ANY, IS THERE A SAFETY CORRIDOR STUDY THAT COULD BE DONE ON 64? 64? YEAH, I, THEY GOT A PILOT PROGRAM THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT IT'S ONLY A MILE SECTION IN GOOCHLAND.
IT'S NOT HOLISTIC, LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING EAST OF, YOU KNOW, GOING TOWARD HAMPTON ROADS.
THAT'S, THAT'S A WIDENING JOB IS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU MR. WYNN.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER, I AM HERE TO INTRODUCE THE NEW HIRES FOR, UH, THE MONTHS OF APRIL AND MAY.
SEE IF I CAN GET THIS TO WORK.
I'M GONNA START WITH, UH, OUR NEW DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, JOSH, UH, GILLESPIE.
UM, HE IS IN THE FLESH AND ON OUR PHOTOS AS WELL.
NOW WE, WE, WE STRETCHED IT OUT.
I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT IN THE BEGINNING.
OUR NEXT, UH, PERSON IS IN PARKS AND REC.
UH, THAT'S JAMIE WALKER SEED, OUR OFFICE MANAGER.
UH, OUR NEXT IS, UH, REAL ESTATE APPRAISER, KRISTIN WYATT, AND SHE'S ALSO WITH US TODAY.
AND THEN WE HAVE DON LEFTWICH, OUR NEW SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING MANAGER, DON AND JOE ROSANO, OUR NEW PARKS AND REC FACILITIES MANAGER REP IN OUR PARKS AND RECS.
SWAG, CHILI CHILDRESS, OUR ANIMAL SHELTER ATTENDANT.
I DON'T THINK SHE COULD MAKE IT.
AND, UH, NEW FIRE RESCUE EMS, UH, OFFICER MATTHEW TER.
SO, UH, WELCOME TO GLAND COUNTY TO ALL NEW EMPLOYEES.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE JOINED OUR, UM, COUNTY'S ADMINISTRATION AND STAFFS.
DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS WISH TO REPORT
[2. Introduction of New County Staff]
ON ANY REGIONAL BOARDS THAT THEY'RE SERVING ON? UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE JUST A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE, I'M[8. Board Reports]
JUST GONNA USE ACRONYMS. R-R-T-P-O, RICHMOND REGION TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION.UM, WE DO HAVE, AND IT'S IN CONJUNCTION WITH PLAN RVA, BUT IT'S PLAN RVA DAY ON THE 13TH.
THEY HAVE BOTH A MORNING, I BELIEVE, JOINT DIRECTORS MEETING, AND THEN IN THE AFTERNOON THEY HAVE A SERIES OF PRESENTATIONS ON A VARIETY OF ISSUES FACING CENTRAL VIRGINIA.
AND THEN OUR FIRST FISCAL YEAR MEETING, OR OUR FIRST MEETING OF THE FISCAL YEAR WILL BE AUGUST 1ST.
UM, AND, UM, AGAIN, IT'S, I GUESS WE HAVE A BRAND NEW POT OF MONEY TO SPEND.
SO, UH, OR INVEST, WE DON'T SPEND IT, WE INVEST IT.
UH, I ALSO WILL MENTION THAT HISTORICALLY THERE HAS BEEN A SLOT AVAILABLE TO A PLANNING COMMISSIONER, AND THAT HAS NOT BEEN FILLED BY PASSPORTS, WHICH WAS THE DECISION THAT, UH, WAS, UH, THEIR DECISION.
BUT, UH, DWAYNE COSBY, WHO'S THE FIFTH DISTRICT PLANNING COMMISSIONER, WAS DOING HIS DUE DILIGENCE AND HOMEWORK, SAW IT WAS VACANT
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AND INQUIRED WHETHER THAT'S A POSITION THAT HE COULD FILL.HE'S WILLING TO, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION THAN WHAT MS. BEST KITZ HAS SHARED WITH ME.
AND, UM, SHE, SHE, UH, GAVE ME THE FORTUNE COOKIE VERSION.
BUT IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ONE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS MORE ENGAGED, I'D CERTAINLY, UM, WELCOME THAT OPPORTUNITY.
BUT IF THERE ARE UNDERLYING REASONS THAT MAY BE ISN'T A GOOD IDEA, I'M, I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AS WELL.
SO THAT'S THE R-R-T-P-O WORLD.
ANY OTHER REPORTS ON THE BOARD? OKAY, THANK YOU.
I WILL, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[X. Consent Agenda]
OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO SUMMARIZE THE ITEMS UNDER CONSENT AND THEN WE'LL SEEK A MOTION EITHER AS A GROUP OR TAKEN INDIVIDUALLY.MR. CARPENTER, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THERE ARE EIGHT ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TODAY.
THE FIRST ITEM 60 69 IS A REQUEST TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR JULY 2ND, 2024.
TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING UCHIN COUNTY CODE SECTION 13 DASH TEN FIVE, WHICH IS EXEMPTION FOR FARM ANIMALS, AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS, FARM MACHINERY, FARM LOAN AND EQUIPMENT TO UPDATE THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS CATEGORIES FOR FARM VEHICLES CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW UPDATES ENACTED BY THE 2023 VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
THE SECOND ITEM, 60 76 IS A REQUEST TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR JULY 2ND, 2024 TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE REPEALING KUCHIN COUNTY'S CODE CHAPTER FIVE, THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL IN ITS ENTIRETY.
AND REPLACING WITH CHAPTER FIVE, EROSION STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM TO UPDATE THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE WITH NEW STATE LAWS AND REGULATIONS AND AMENDING APPENDIX C TO THE COUNTY CODE, THE FEE SCHEDULE TO COMBINE THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL PERMIT FEES AND REVISED PERMIT NAMES CONSISTENT WITH THE NEW ORDINANCES.
THE THIRD ITEM, 60 54 IS A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 GUCCI COUNTY BUDGET BY BUDGETING AND APPROPRIATING $1,177,775 IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FUND FOR THE OILVILLE ROAD INTERCHANGE PROJECT.
THE FOURTH ITEM 60 82 IS A RESOLUTION AMENDING FISCAL YEAR 2025 GUCH COUNTY BUDGET TO TRANSFER AND APPROPRIATE $116,656 WITHIN THE COUNTY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FUND TO FUND A GENERATOR AT THE UCHIN SPORTS COMPLEX AS REQUESTED BY FIRE AND RESCUE.
THESE ARE MATCHING FUNDS FOR A GRANT PREVIOUSLY AWARDED IN 2022.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE, NUMBER 60 75 IS A RESOLUTION AMENDING FISCAL YEAR 2024 COUNTY BUDGET BY BUDGETING AND APPROPRIATING $289,023 IN THE SCHOOL TEXTBOOK AND CAFETERIA FUNDS AND AUTHORIZING FUND TRANSFERS EXCEEDING $10,000.
CATEGORICAL TRANSFERS ARE REVENUE NEUTRAL AND BUDGET SUPPLEMENT FUNDS WILL USE PRIOR YEAR TEXTBOOK FUND BALANCE, FEDERAL GRANT FUNDS LOCAL CAFETERIA CHARGES.
ITEM NUMBER 6 60 45 IS A RESOLUTION CONSENTING TO KING AND QUEEN COUNTY'S WITHDRAWAL FROM THE PO FROM THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY SYSTEM.
SOME MONTH BACK COUNTY ADMINISTRATION RECEIVED A WRITTEN REQUEST FROM KING AND QUEEN COUNTY STATING THAT THE COUNTY FINDS ITSELF FACING DIFFICULT FISCAL CHALLENGES AND HAS DETERMINED IT WISHES TO WITHDRAW FROM THE REGIONAL LIBRARY.
KING WILLIAM AND HANOVER COUNTIES HAVE ALREADY AGREED TO THE WITHDRAWAL.
THE THREE REMAINING COUNTIES ARE AGREEING TO OPERATE UNDER THE EXISTING REGIONAL LIBRARY AGREEMENT, DISREGARDING TERMS THAT RELATE TO KING AND QUEEN COUNTY.
I HAVE NOTIFIED MONKEY REGIONAL LIBRARY THAT UCHIN COUNTY'S FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION WILL NOT INCREASE DUE TO WITH THE WITHDRAWAL OF KING AND QUEEN COUNTY.
ITEM NUMBER 7 60 84 IS A REQUEST TO INITIATE AND REFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AN AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE, COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 15 SECTIONS 15 2 33 15 2 43 15 2 53 15 2 64 AND 15 2 73, WHICH ARE DISTRICT STANDARDS TO REMOVE FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS IN THE BUSINESS NEIGHBORHOOD B IN BUSINESS GENERAL B ONE COMMERCIAL INTERCHANGE B THREE INDUSTRIAL LIMITED M1 AND INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO DISTRICTS NUMBER 8 60 78 A RESOLUTION INITIATING AND REFERRING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 15 TO REPEAL AND REPLACE ARTICLE 28 FLOODPLAIN DISTRICTS AND DAM BREAK INUNDATION ZONES WITH UPDATED PROVISIONS AND TO ADOPT AND INCORPORATE THE NEW FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAPS ISSUED BY THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY FEMA AS CHAIRMAN.
THOSE ARE THE ITEMS. THANK YOU MR. CARPENTER.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PULL NUMBER SEVEN OUT FOR SEPARATE CONSIDERATION?
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DO I HAVE A SECOND? UM, I HAVE A DIFF I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A, IF WE NEED A MOTION TO DIS TO TAKE THEM TO SLATE, BUT I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO PULL OUT 3, 4, 5, AND SIX.WELL, MR. LYLE HAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR LOOKING FOR A SECOND MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
AND THEN THERE COULD BE ANOTHER MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO PULLING OUT ITEM SEVEN? SECOND.
ALL THOSE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE A.
ITEM SEVEN WILL BE PULLED OUT.
MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE ALSO PULL OUT ITEMS 3, 4, 5, AND SIX.
OPPOSED? OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS 1, 2, 7 AND EIGHT.
THAT WILL NOW MOVE US TO NEW BUSINESS.
MR. NO, WE HAVE TO TALK TO MR. CHAIRMAN.
YOU NOW HAVE TO HAVE, I'M SORRY.
AND THEN WE START WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT, I WANNA DO THIS, MR. CHAIR, IF YOU'D PREFER A MOTION OR THE DISCUSSION FIRST IS HOW, LET'S START WITH THE DISCUSSION.
[3. Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2024 Goochland County Budget by budgeting and appropriating $1,177,775 in the Capital Improvement Program Fund for the Oilville Road Interchange project]
THAT HAS TO PULL IT OUT, UH, I, I'M VERY AWARE OF THE OILVILLE ROAD INTERCHANGE PROJECT.WHAT I'M NOT AWARE OF IS, IT SOUNDS LIKE WHEN YOU USE THE TERMS BUDGETING AND APPROPRIATING, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THIS HAS BEEN ALLOCATED AND THESE ARE, AND THESE WEREN'T ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGET.
AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN, I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE THE DECISION WAS MADE TO PULL THAT 1.17.
MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL HAVE MS. GOEN COME UP AS WELL.
UM, UH, 760,000 OF IT COMES FROM A SIGNED FUND BALANCE FUNDS THAT WE HAD PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED AS FOR THIS PROJECT AND 417,500 CAME FROM CBTA LOCAL FUNDS.
UH, MR. GOEN, IF YOU WANNA FURTHER EXPOUND UPON THAT, UH, NO, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT IS AN ACCURATE STATEMENT AND THE REASON WHY IT'S COMING BEFORE YOU NOW, INSTEAD OF LIKE AN FY 25 ITEM IN THE BUDGET SOON TO GO INTO EFFECT IS WE WERE EXPECTING, I WOULD SAY ANTICIPATING MAYBE AN AWARD THAT WE ARE SLATED TO RECEIVE WHEN THE CTB MEETS IN JUNE TO MATCH ESSENTIALLY THESE FUNDS TO FULLY FUND THE PROJECT.
SO IT WAS ALWAYS STAFF'S, UM, GOAL TO BRING THIS FORWARD AT THIS POINT AND FY 24, AND AS MR. CARPENTER MENTIONED, THE 760,000 AT $275 WAS A PART OF THAT GENERAL FUND ASSIGNED BALANCE THAT THE BOARD DID WISH AND THE BEGINNING OF FY 24 TO PUT ASIDE FOR FUTURE TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.
AND WE'RE JUST NOW ALLOCATING THAT TO, TO OILVILLE AND THOSE FUNDS ARE COMING OUT OF THE GENERAL BUDGET.
THEY'RE COMING OUT OF THE, THE LOCAL FUNDS FROM CBTA, THAT'S THE 417,000 THAT'S, THAT'S THE CBTA LOCAL PORTION OF IT.
SO THEN YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE ASKING FOR ANOTHER 700,000.
I'M SORRY, THAT'S, WE PREVIOUSLY SET THAT ASIDE, BUT WE HADN'T HAD ACTUALLY ALLOCATED.
WHERE'S THE MATTER? SOMEBODY TOLD ME ONCE, UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM THREE.
DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE, UH, CONSENTED AGENDA ITEM THREE.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM FOUR.
[4. Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2025 Goochland County Budget to transfer and appropriate $116,656 within the County Capital Improvement Program Fund]
YES, MR. CHAIR? I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS, THIS GENERATOR.UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, A GRANT WAS ISSUED BACK IN 2022, UH, THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PUT A GENERATOR AT THE, UH, UCHIN SPORTS AND REC CENTER BEHIND US.
UM, THAT WAS SO THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN EMERGENCY CENTER.
AS YOU RECALL, WHEN WE HAD SEVERAL WEATHER, UM, INCIDENTS THAT CAME, WE HAD NO PLACE WITH POWER.
SO THE GRANT WAS RECEIVED, BUT WE COULDN'T SPEND IT WHEN WE RECEIVED IT BECAUSE WE HAD AN OPEN GRANT AND THEY HAVE A POLICY THAT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE OPEN GRANT AT A TIME.
SO WE HAD TO FINISH THAT, UM, THAT THAT PO YEAH.
FINISH THAT GRANT UP IN ORDER TO ALLOW US TO, UH, GO FORWARD.
UM, THE CHIEF AND MS. HILLMAN HAD COME AND ASKED NOW THAT IT HAD BEEN CLOSED, THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS OPPORTUNITY, UM, AND THEY CAN FURTHER EXPOUND UPON THAT ASPECT OF IT.
I'M JOINED HERE AT THE PODIUM BY, UH, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, ROBIN HILLMAN.
UH, AND I JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THIS, UH, GENERATOR GRANT.
UH, THIS CAME TO BE AFTER THE JANUARY, 2022 SNOWSTORM.
AND I'LL LET, UH, MS. HILLMAN ACTUALLY, UH, COVER SOME OF THE REASONS WHY THE SITE HERE AT THE GLAND SPORTS COMPLEX IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR A SHELTER.
UH, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY UPFRONT IS THAT, UH, WHEN WE GOT TO THE POINT TO GET READY TO PROCURE THIS GENERATOR, WE REALIZED THAT THE MATCHING FUNDING DID NOT, UH, EXIST IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS BUDGETS.
SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL, UH, FUNDS,
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UH, TO BE APPROPRIATED TO FIRE RESCUE.WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THE CIP THE WAY IT WAS FUNDED.
UH, IT APPROVED IN THE BUDGET TO FIND THESE MATCHING FUNDS.
YOU MAY SAY, WELL, HOW, UH, HOW DO YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY SITTING IN THE CIP WHEN YOU HAVE ALL THESE OTHER PROJECTS? AND THE, THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT IS WE HAVE A, UH, PHARMACY PROJECT IN THERE FOR $400,000 FOR REGIONAL DRUG BOX REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.
AND SINCE WE'VE WORKED ON THE CIP AND SINCE THE BUDGET HAS BEEN APPROVED, THE VIRGINIA BOARD OF PHARMACY HAS MADE SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE REGIONAL, UH, EMS MEDICATION STOCKING POLICIES, WHICH ALLOWS IT TO BE A LITTLE MORE MANAGEABLE AND A LITTLE LESS EXPENSIVE.
STILL GONNA BE A HEAVY LIFT FOR OUR DEPARTMENT AND OTHER AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE, BUT WE DON'T THINK WE'LL SPEND THE FULL, UH, 400,000 FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO THE GENERATOR IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO US FOR SHELTERING AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
I'M GONNA LET, UH, CHIEF HILLMAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHY THIS IS, UH, A GREAT SITE FOR THIS.
SO, UM, THE BENEFITS OF US USING THAT SITE AS A EMERGENCY SHELTER ARE SEVERAL.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, WE WENT INTO A, UM, RECENT, UM, MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS SO THAT THEY CAN MANAGE A SHELTER FOR US, UM, SHOULD WE NEED THEM.
AND THAT IS FOR THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION AS WELL AS THE CENTRAL HIGH COMPLEX.
WE ALSO ARE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES AT THIS, UH, LOCATION.
AND DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES IS ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING AND OPERATING, UM, A SHELTER, UM, UNLESS WE DESIGNATE AS AN AMERICAN RED CROSS SHELTER.
UM, IT IS ALSO, UM, MANNED ON A REGULAR BASIS BY THE PARKS AND RECS TO HELP US GET STARTED IN OPENING THE SHELTER.
SO, UM, I THINK THOSE ARE, UM, SOME SIGNIFICANT BENEFITS.
WE DID OPEN IT PARTIALLY, UM, IN 2022 FOR THE WINTER STORMS AFTER WE CLOSED THE ONE AT BIRD.
UM, AND IT IS CENTRALLY LOCATED.
UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, MR. CHRISTIE? I'M HAVING SOME MICROPHONE ISSUES.
UH, SO ASSUMING WE APPROVED THE GENERATOR, WILL BIRD STILL BE A LOCATION FOR THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY? YES, IT WILL BE.
SO, UM, SHELTER DESIGNATIONS ARE DETERMINED BASED ON IMPACT AT THE TIME OF THE EVENT.
MM-HMM?
THANKS FOR HAVING TO BE PUT ON THE SPOT.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME, I REMEMBER WE APPLIED FOR A GRANT FOR THE CENTRAL HIGH GENERATOR AND THE REASON IT WAS CHOSEN FOR CENTRAL HIGH AS EMERGENCY SHELTER WAS 'CAUSE THERE WAS, UH, POTENTIAL SHOWERS AND WE COULDN'T GET ONE FOR THIS, UH, FACILITY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO, THERE WERE NO SHOWERS AVAILABLE.
SO HOW IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN, THAN THAT? SO, UM, THE SHOWERS ARE NOT REQUIRED FOR US TO HAVE TO HAVE THE GENERATOR.
UM, WE DO HOPE THAT IN THE FUTURE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO PUT SOME SHOWERS AT THIS LOCATION TO MAKE THEM OPERATIONAL AND WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY USING SOME GRANT FUNDS, UM, WITH THAT AS WELL, AT ANOTHER GRANT IN THE FUTURE.
SO, SO IS THIS FOR MATCHING GRANT? IS THERE A GRANT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS? YES.
AND THIS IS, WHAT ARE THE STIPULATIONS OR REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THAT GRANT? SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR GRANT, WHAT, SO WE HAVE TO MATCH, I BELIEVE IT'S 40% OR IS IT 60%? DO YOU RECALL? 40%.
SO THE GRANT, THIS IS AN IDENTICAL GRANT TO THE SAME GRANT THAT WAS USED TO PUT THE GENERATOR IN A CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL.
AND AS, UH, CHIEF HILLMAN INDICATED, IT'S, UH, 60% FUNDED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT THROUGH FEMA.
UH, THE OTHER THING I WOULD JUST SAY ABOUT THIS LOCATION, ONE THING WE LEARNED IN 2022 IS AFTER YOU KEEP A SHELTER OPEN FOR SEVERAL DAYS, YOUR ACCESS AND YOUR NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS STARTS TO DIMINISH.
AND BEING ABLE TO DO THAT SHELTER HERE AT THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT SITE ALLOWED COUNTY GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES WHO WORK HERE IN THE, THE COUNTY ADMIN BUILDING TO ALSO PULL SHIFTS IN THE SHELTER AND GO BACK AND FORTH AND DO THEIR REGULAR JOB TO TRY TO SUSTAIN AN OPERATION THAT WENT ALMOST A WHOLE WEEK.
THE OTHER THING THAT, UM, THAT I'LL TELL YOU IS IN, I KNOW OUR CHIEF HILLMAN WILL BACK ME UP ON IT, IS IN THIS AREA.
YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT GLAND CARES AND WE LOOK AT THE YMCA AND THE YMCA DOESN'T HAVE A GENERATOR.
AND SO WHEN WE, WHEN THEY LOSE, WE LOSE ELECTRICITY IN THE, THE COURTHOUSE AREA OF THE COUNTY.
WE SAW THIS WITH THE TORNADOES THAT SAME SUMMER IN 2022.
UH, WE LOSE OUR SHOWER AND POWER SITES AND WE ALSO HAVE A LOCATION THERE AT THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS, UH, 1900 RIVER ROAD WEST.
SO ALL IN ALL, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD, A GOOD OPERATION.
WE WERE ABLE TO USE THIS IN THE SNOWSTORM AND WE WERE FORTUNATE THAT THE COURTHOUSE DID HAVE POWER AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT ISSUE TO CONTEND WITH.
UM, THE, MY LAST QUESTION, MR. CHAIR, IS, UM, WE SEEM IN THE PAST WHERE GENERATORS HAVE BEEN, UM, NOT, NOT FROM THE COUNTY SIDE, BUT UM, HAS THE COST OF THE INSTALLATION OF THE GENERATOR BEEN INCLUDED IN THIS? IT
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IS.THE, YOU KNOW, I'LL TELL YOU THAT THIS CARRIED ACROSS SEVERAL BUDGET YEARS, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.
AND CERTAINLY, UM, THAT GENERATOR STARTED OUT AT LIKE 220 AND THEN IT, BY THE TIME YOU GET AROUND INTO BUYING IT NOW, IT'S TO, I THINK IT'S 251,000 AND GENERAL SERVICES DIRECTOR CONFIRMED THAT IT DOES INCLUDE THE, UH, THE COST OF INSTALLATION.
UH, THERE MAY BE A TRANSFER SWITCH THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED.
UM, AND I, BUT THE, THE MAJOR PART OF THE, UH, THE INSTALLATION IS INCLUDED IN THE COST.
UH, I'LL TELL YOU THAT, UH, THEY DIDN'T, THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT, THEY HAD SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT ALLOWING GLAND TO HAVE TWO GENERATOR GRANTS OPEN AT THE SAME TIME.
THEY'D LIKE US TO FINISH THE FIRST ONE BEFORE THEY GRANTED US A SECOND ONE.
BUT THEY ALSO UNDERSTOOD THE, UH, SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES THAT RESULTED AS THE PANDEMIC, AND THEY MADE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION.
AND IT ALLOWED US TO HAVE A SECOND, UH, GENERATOR GRANT OPEN, UH, WITH THE STRINGS ATTACHED.
GOTTA COMPLETE THE FIRST ONE BEFORE YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO THE SECOND ONE.
UH, SO IT'S ALL BASED, WAS A SUPPLY VERSUS DEMAND ISSUE.
AND I APPRECIATE THE QUESTIONS.
MR. LAU, UH, I, I THINK MY QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED, AND THAT IS, THIS IS NOT REPLACING CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL.
THIS IS, UH, IN ADDITION TO, 'CAUSE I DID HAVE RECALL THAT WE PURSUED THE CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL, UM, AND, AND THEN THIS IS ALMOST MORE OF A DOWN THE ROAD, BUT WE REALLY DON'T HAVE EMERGENCY SHELTERING IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTY, DO WE? SO, UM, WE DO HAVE A, UM, AGREEMENT WITH ST.
MATTHEWS CHURCH THROUGH THE, UM, AMERICAN RED CROSS TO BE ABLE TO OPEN THEM AS A SHELTER IN THE EASTERN END.
AND DO THEY NEED A GENERATOR? UM, THEY PROBABLY COULD USE ONE.
THEY DO NOT HAVE ONE, BUT WE, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT WITH FUTURE GRANTS.
UM, MY QUESTIONS ARE ANSWERED.
JUST ONE, ONE MORE THING THAT I'LL MENTION REGARDING, UH, CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT SITE.
AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE SANDY HOOK AREA WITH THE CHELSEA REHAB, NURSING HOME AND SO FORTH, THERE IS AN AGREEMENT ON FILE RIGHT WHERE WE CAN, UH, USE, THEY CAN USE SOME OF OUR FACILITIES FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME IF THEY WERE TO HAVE A SITUATION ACROSS THE STREET AND NEED TO, UH, STAGE SOME RESIDENCE UNTIL THEY COULD BE PLACED IN ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR FACILITIES.
WASN'T THERE A WATER MAIN BREAK? WASN'T THERE A WATER ISSUE LAST TIME? YES, SIR.
THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN WATER, UH, WATER ISSUES THERE AT CHELSEA REHAB, AND I KNOW THEY'RE WORKING TO MAKE THOSE, UH, RENOVATIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, AND FORTUNATELY, UH, NONE OF THOSE RESIDENTS WERE DISPLACED DURING THE, THE WATER, UH, PIPE BREAK THAT OCCURRED IN THE FACILITY.
BUT, UH, IN THE VERY BEGINNING IT APPEARED.
THEY MAY BE, BUT IT DID NOT ACTUALLY, UH, HAPPEN THAT WAY.
THANK YOU, CHIEF FERGUSON AND HILLMAN.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, AGENDA CONSENT.
[5. Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2024 Goochland County Budget by budgeting and appropriating $289,023 in the School Textbook and Cafeteria Funds and authorizing fund transfers exceeding $10,000]
UH, DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? YES.MR. CARPENTER, UH, COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, WE JUST DID THE BUDGET, SO I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW THIS IS, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE VALUE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
I'VE, I WAS ABLE TO TALK TO MY, MY SCHOOL BOARD COUNTERPART, BUT I JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY.
IT'S JUST TWO MONTHS AFTER THE BUDGET AND WE'RE MOVING THIS STUFF AROUND AND MS. MS. WHITE IS SHIRLEY, SO SHE CAN, BUT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, UH, MANY, THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR BUDGET WITH, UH, FUNDS THAT, UM, FROM THE CAFETERIA FUND IS WHERE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF THE SCHOOL TEXTBOOK FUND IS WHERE, AND THESE, UM, THE CATEGORICAL TRANSFERS, UM, I WILL DEFER TO HER TO EXPLAIN WHY THE CATEGOR TRANSFERS WERE NEEDED.
BUT, UM, THE NET RESULT OF THIS IS TAKING FUNDS THAT, UM, ARE, ARE REVENUE NEUTRAL, UH, NO ADDITIONAL COUNTY FUNDS, AND JUST ADJUSTING THE, UH, 24 BUDGET.
AND AGAIN, MS. WHITE CAN PERHAPS BETTER EXPLAIN WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT NOW VERSUS WAITING TILL THE NEW BUDGET.
SO THIS IS THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE YEAR WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO FINISH OUT NOW.
SO MARCH 31, IT'S CALLED AN A DM, IT'S THE AVERAGE DAILY MEMBERSHIP.
WE SUBMIT THAT TO THE STATE AND THEN THAT'S WHERE LOCKS IN OUR STATE FUNDING.
UM, SO, UM, RIGHT AFTER THAT, WE LOOK AT ALL OF OUR EXPENSES, WE LOOK AT THAT STATE FUNDING, AND WE SEE WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE SOME ISSUES.
SO WHEN WE CAME TO YOU AND ASKED FOR THE, UM, LEGAL EXPENSES, THAT WAS BASED ON THE FACT THAT WE COULD SEE THAT WE WERE COMING OUT AT A DEFICIT, UM, FOR THE YEAR BECAUSE OF THOSE LEGAL EXPENSES.
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THIS IS BASED ON, ESPECIALLY THE CATEGORICAL ONE IS OUR, OUR SPENDING IS NOT BASED ON WHAT WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A YEAR AGO WHEN WE PASSED THE 24 BUDGETS.SO SINCE WE'RE CATEGORICALLY, UH, FUNDED, WE HAVE, UM, THE BIGGEST, THE BIGGEST CHANGE THAT WE HAD WAS THE, THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE BUDGET WAS NOT SUFFICIENTLY HIGH TO ACCOUNT FOR THE HIGH UTILITY COSTS WE HAD THIS YEAR.
SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE LOOKED AT EACH OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES AND WE SAID WE CAN, YOU KNOW, MOVE MONEY FROM EACH OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES BECAUSE OF, MAINLY BECAUSE OF VACANCY SAVINGS TO GET US, UM, TO COVER THAT $265,000 EXPENSE.
SO, UM, THAT EXPLAINS THE CATEGORICAL TRANSFERS.
AND EVERY YEAR WE'VE GENERALLY COME TO YOU ABOUT THIS TIME TO ASK FOR SOME MOVEMENT OF FUNDS BETWEEN OUR CATEGORIES.
UM, THE CAFETERIA FUND, THEY JUST HAVE HAD, UM, MORE PARTICIPATION THAN THEY'VE HAD, UM, AS WE THOUGHT WAS BUDGETED.
THEY HAVE MORE MONEY COMING IN, BUT THEY HAVE MORE EXPENSES.
SO WE'RE JUST SAYING JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MORE MONEY IN THIS ENTERPRISE FUND AND SO WE'RE JUST INCREASING THE REVENUE SO WE CAN PAY FOR THE HIGHER COSTS.
UM, THERE ARE TWO THINGS THAT ARE BASED ON, UM, THE, THE VIRGINIA LITERACY ACT, UM, WHICH HAS TO BE DONE BY, UM, THE START OF THE NEXT SCHOOL YEAR.
SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE VIRGINIA ASSEMBLY, AND THEY SAID WE HAD TO BE READY AS OF AUGUST.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS, UM, WE BOUGHT, WE ARE BUYING A LOT OF OUR NEW READING TEXTBOOKS NOW, AND WE'RE HANDING THEM TO THE TEACHERS SO THAT THEY CAN WORK ON 'EM OVER THE SUMMER SO THEY'RE READY COME AUGUST.
AND SO, UM, WE THOUGHT THAT WE COULD DO THAT IN AUGUST, BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE ALLOWED US TO GET OUR, THE BOOKS IN TIME.
SO WE'RE JUST SAYING WE'RE GONNA USE WHAT WE HAVE SET ASIDE IN OUR, UM, FUND BALANCE IN THAT TEXTBOOK FUND BECAUSE EVERY YEAR WE SORT OF BUILD THAT UP FOR THESE BIG, UM, TEXTBOOK ADOPTIONS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE THAT IN.
AND THEN AT THE VERY BOTTOM WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT THE FUND TRANSFERS WHEN WE GOT IT, OUR ALL, ALL IN STATE FUNDING, WE PUT IT IN THE INSTRUCTIONAL AREA, BUT WE REALLY NEED IT TO HELP PAY FOR THIS LARGE TEXTBOOK ADOPTION.
SO WE'RE JUST SAYING IT'S IN THE WRONG PLACE WHEN WE INITIALLY, UM, DID A BUDGET SUPPLEMENT FOR THAT.
SO JUST A COMBINATION OF A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET OUR BOOKS SET SO THEY LOOK CORRECT BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.
UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S OUR EXPLANATION.
MM-HMM,
MS. WHITE, THIS IS, UH, UH, HELP ME UNDERSTAND.
CAFETERIA FUND IS SEPARATE AND UNIQUE, IS THAT CORRECT? IT DOES NOT.
IT'S A STANDALONE SELF-FUNDING.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SELF-SUPPORTING.
YOU USED THE WORD SUPPOSED TO BE, UM, IT HAS BEEN SELF-SUPPORTING FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
UM, BUT SOMETIMES IT IS NOT SELF-SUPPORTING.
BECAUSE, UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE PARTICIPATION NECESSARY TO SUPPLY FOOD.
UH, THE, THE FEDERAL DOLLAR IS, HAS USUALLY NOT BEEN STRONG ENOUGH.
TO COVER THE STAFF NEEDED TO PROVIDE FREE AND REDUCED LUNCHES.
AND, AND SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, SOMETIMES WE HAVE HAD TO USE SOME OF OUR OWN OPERATING FUND MONEY TO SUPPLEMENT IT.
UH, UH, AND THAT HELPS ME UNDERSTAND BETTER.
BUT RIGHT NOW THEY ARE SELF-SUFFICIENT.
THEY'RE USING, UM, A VARIETY OF FUNDS TO SELF-SUPPORT THEMSELVES.
IF THEY'RE SELF-SUFFICIENT, WE'RE STILL MOVING MORE MONEY TO IT? NO.
THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE CHARGES FOR SERVICES.
THEY HAVE SOME, UM, FEDERAL MONEY FROM A SUPPLY CHAIN ASSISTANCE THAT'S REALLY SERVING, ACKNOWLEDGING THE FACT THAT THE FEDERAL MONEY IS NOT SUFFICIENT AND IT, UM, UM, FOOD COSTS HAVE GONE UP SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S BEEN GIVING THEM MORE MONEY.
AND THEN, UM, BECAUSE OF THE HIGHER PARTICIPATION, WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE MONEY COMING FROM JUST THE REGULAR, UM, DOLLAR SOMETHING THAT THEY GIVE FOR EVERY, UH, FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH.
AND, AND MR. CARPENTER, THIS, THIS IS NOT ANYTHING THAT IMPACTS THE BUDGET, IS THAT CORRECT? NO.
I THOUGHT I, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSIONS, MR. WINFREY? I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD TO KEEP THAT NEW SCHOOL ON TRACK.
SO, UM, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE AT SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION ON FRIDAY
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AND, UM, WE SENT 'EM A NOTICE AND SAID YOU'RE NOT SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE.AND THEY HAVE THROWN A LOT MORE WORKERS ON SITE SINCE THEN.
UM, SO THEY ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION DATE.
AND, UM, BUT WE ARE NOT WORRIED.
UM, WE KNOW THAT THEY'LL, OUR, THE SCHOOL WILL BE READY BY AUGUST.
UM, WE ARE KEEPING OUR OPEN HOUSE DATED OF JULY 18TH.
WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT THE RIBBON CUTTING, YES, THE RIBBON CUTTING OPEN HOUSE, WE, IT IT'LL BE READY FOR THE PUBLIC TO WALK THROUGH BY JULY 18TH.
SEEING NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION MR. CHAIR MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA NUMBER FIVE.
CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PASSES.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? YES.
[6. Resolution consenting to King and Queen County’s withdrawal from the Pamunkey Regional Library System]
YOU, MR. CHAIR.UM, MR. LOW, DID YOU WANNA GO FIRST? I'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT.
WELL, ON SIX, I THOUGHT WE PASSED THAT.
THIS KING OF QUEEN, CORRECT? NO, I PULLED IT OH, THREE THROUGH SIX.
THE APPROVAL WAS, UH, I'M SORRY, THE APPROVAL WAS ONE, TWO, AND EIGHT.
UH, I'M GLAD SOMEONE'S KEEPING TRACK, SO, ALRIGHT.
I, I, UH, MY SIMPLE QUESTION, AND I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, IS THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA IMPACT OUR FIDUCIARY REQUESTS.
I MEAN, I, I'M A HUGE SUPPORTER OF THE LIBRARY SYSTEM, AND WHEN YOU TAKE SOMEBODY AWAY WHO'S CONTRIBUTING, UM, THERE'S NO MONEY TREE OUT BACK AND SOMEBODY'S GOTTA COVER THOSE COSTS.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A DOLLAR EXPENSE, DOLLAR REVENUE MATCH FOR MATCH THAT THAT WILL DISAPPEAR.
BUT I, I WANT TO BE NOT SURPRISED IF THERE IS A NEED FOR THIS COUNTY TO STEP UP AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SORT, UH, REVENUE TO, TO THE LIBRARY SYSTEM.
SO YES, MR. LAW, I'M MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
WHEN THIS WAS FIRST PRESENTED TO US, IT WAS MADE CLEAR TO THEM THE UCHIN COUNTY'S COMMITMENT HAD ALREADY BEEN MADE.
AND THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE THAT IF THERE WERE ANY IMPACTS ON THEIR, UM, OPERATING BUDGET BECAUSE OF KING AND QUEEN LEAVING, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MANAGE IT INTERNALLY AND THAT WE WOULD NOT CONSIDER AN INCREASE IN WHAT WE'D ALREADY COMMITTED TO DOING.
UH, I, I WOULD CONSIDER AN INCREASE.
I JUST WOULD WANNA BE APPRISED THAT IT MIGHT BE NEEDED.
BUT I'M HEARING THAT THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED AND TO THE BEST OF CURRENT ANALYSIS, WE'RE NOT GONNA NEED TO STEP UP AND PROVIDE MORE MONEY.
OKAY, MRS. SPINOFF, UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
UM, MR. GOVERNOR, SO I, I UNDERSTAND, SO A REGIONAL ORGANIZATION WAS PUT TOGETHER.
NOW WE'RE DOWN, IT'S DOWN TO 2 0 4, IT WILL BE HANOVER AND, AND GLAND.
THIS WILL PUT US DOWN TO THREE OF FOUR.
IS THE ONE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THIS LAST YEAR.
KING WILLIAM IS THE THIRD COUNTY, AND THAT'S A COUNTY THAT MAY COME UP AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
BUT THEY'RE STILL MEMBERS OF IT, SO IT STILL REMAINS A THREE IF THIS APPROVES BY THE BOARD.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, THERE'S BEEN CON THERE'S BEEN, UH, NOTES OR, OR CONVERSATION AROUND ABOUT, UH, BEING UP TO DATE MM-HMM.
CAN YOU JUST KNOW WHERE WE'RE WITH THAT? SURE.
I SPOKE WITH THE, UM, ADMINISTRATOR FOR KING AND QUEEN COUNTY.
UM, THEY HAVE PAID THEIR THIRD AND FOURTH QUARTER DUES.
UM, SHE, UM, UH, TOLD ME THAT THEY ARE CURRENT.
UM, SHE SAID THAT, UH, THERE WAS SOME VERY SLIGHT DISCREPANCY BETWEEN WHAT THEY WERE TOLD THEY OWED AND WHAT THEY THOUGHT THEY OWED TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $4.
SO IF THEY WERE TO SEND A BILL FOR THAT, THEY WOULD PAY THAT.
UM, BUT THAT THEY WERE CURRENT IN, UH, THEIR DUES.
SO WHAT DOES THIS DO TO THE VOTING BALANCE? UH, 'CAUSE UH, NOW, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, OUR VOTES ARE COMM HOW MUCH WE CONTRIBUTE, RIGHT? SO, WHICH, SO THE VOTING BALANCE HAD BEEN SET UP WHERE, UM, HANOVER COUNTY HAD FOUR AND THE OTHER THREE COUNTIES HAD TWO FOR A TOTAL OF 10 VOTES.
THIS WILL TAKE AWAY THEIR TWO.
UM, THE SHARE DOES NOT REALLY CHANGE THOUGH.
HANOVER COUNTY REMAINS AT ABOUT 72% OF THE POPULATION.
AND THE BUDGET, UH, GUCCI COUNTY IS, UH, DOWN THEN IN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, 16 15%, UM, ALONG WITH, UM, KING WILLIAM COUNTY.
SO, UM, THE SHARE THAT WE HAVE DOESN'T CHANGE WITH THEM PULLING OUT, UH, THAT LEAVES HANOVER WITH FOUR AND THAT LEAVES G TWO AND THAT LEAVES KING WILLIAM WITH TWO.
UM, HANOVER HAS, AS WE KNOW, PRES, UH, PRESENTED A REQUESTED CHANGE TO THEIR MOU, WHICH WOULD, UM, CHANGE THE NUMBER OF SEATS, UM, FROM, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO GO FROM FOUR TO FIVE AND KEEP US AT TWO AND KEEP KING WILLIAM WITH TWO.
SO SINCE THEY'RE, UM, I'M PAYING 72% OF THE BUDGET AND HAS 72% OF THE POPULATION THAT FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE REQUESTING THAT CHANGE TO THE CURRENT MOU.
BUT CURRENTLY WHEN THIS HAPPENS, THERE'LL BE EIGHT SEATS, FOUR, TWO, AND TWO.
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SO IT'D BE LIKE NO LONGER THE UNK, IT'LL BE THE HANOVER LIBRARY SYSTEM THAT WE JUST PARTICIPATE IN ESSENTIALLY.GOOD, GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION MR. CHRISTIE? YEAH, I JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
UH, THIS, UH, IS BOUNCING OFF OF, UH, MR. LYLE'S COMMENTS.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT BEFORE WE OFFER TO ADD, UH, MONETARY CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE LIBRARY SYSTEM, I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE SERVICES RENDERED FOR THAT MONETARY CONTRIBUTION.
SEEING NONE, DO I HAVE A MOTION SHARE? I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CONSENTED.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
CONSENT AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX PASSES AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE FINAL, UM, ITEM TO
[7. Request to initiate and refer to the Planning Commission an amendment to Zoning Ordinance (County Code Chapter 15), Secs. 15-233, 15-243, 15-253, 15-264, and 15-273 (District Standards) to remove floor area ratio (FAR) requirements in the Business, Neighborhood (B-N), Business, General (B-1), Commercial Interchange (B-3), Industrial, Limited (M-1), and Industrial, General (M-2) Districts]
BE DISCUSSED.UH, ANY COMMENTS ON CONSENT? AGENDA ITEM SEVEN? YES, SIR.
MR. CHAIRMAN? MR. LAW? UM, I, AS, AS I THINK MOST OF US ARE AWARE, THERE HAS BEEN QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION ON FLOOR AREA RATIOS AND, AND, UH, ONCE AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT OF KNOWLEDGE IS, CAN BE DANGEROUS.
AND I TOOK THE LAND USE PLANNING COMMISSIONER COURSE THAT'S OFFERED BY VCU AND FLOOR AREA RATIO WAS ONE OF THE TOPICS DOWN THERE.
I'VE ALSO HAD THE PRIVILEGE, A MEETING WITH A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF MIKE CHANDLER, WHO IS REALLY THE GODFATHER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION COURSE DOWN THERE.
HE'S NOW A, UH, RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FIVE AND HAS BEEN VERY GENEROUS WITH HIS TIME.
AND THE COUNCIL I'VE BEEN GETTING IS THAT FLOOR AREA RATIO CAN BE AN EFFECTIVE TOOL FOR ADMINISTERING, UH, MOSTLY IN URBAN AREAS, BUT, UH, IT, IT HAS BENEFIT TO IT.
AND, AND IF THERE'S A CONCERN I HAVE, WHICH I DO, IS THAT THE WORD IN THE, UH, MOTION OR THE CONSENT ITEM IS TO REMOVE THESE AND, UM, ALL THE LEARNING WHICH IS SHALLOW AND NOT EXTENSIVE, IS THAT REMOVING IT MAY NOT BE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE COUNTY 'CAUSE IT IS A MANAGEMENT TOOL.
UH, IF THAT WORD WERE REVIEW, I WOULD BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT, BECAUSE THEN IT'S NOT SAYING WE ARE ASKING THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GET RID OF IT, BUT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND, AND I HAVE HAD HALLWAY CONVERSATIONS, BUT I'VE NOT SEEN ANYTHING YET.
THAT TELLS ME IF WE GET RID OF FLOOR AREA RATIO, WE HAVE OTHER TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX THAT WILL GIVE US HEIGHT LIMITATIONS ON BUILDINGS THAT WILL GIVE US SETBACKS, THAT WILL GIVE US BUFFERING, THAT'LL GIVE US THE THINGS THAT, UH, CALL 'EM WHAT YOU WILL.
THOSE ARE THE BONAFIDES THAT THE CONSUMER OR THE CITIZEN IS, IS INTERESTED IN.
UH, I'VE EQUATED IT TO BE WEARING SUSPENDERS AND A BELT, BUT BEFORE I TAKE MY SUSPENDERS OFF, I WANNA MAKE SURE I GOT A BELT AND, AND I'M NOT SURE I'M NOT THERE YET.
NO ONE HAS GIVEN ME A GRID THAT SAYS IF WE MOVE FAR IN THIS AREA, IN THIS AREA, IN THIS AREA, WE'RE STILL COVERED BECAUSE WE GOT THIS OVER HERE, THIS OVER HERE, THIS OVER HERE.
SO IT MAY SIMPLY BE I'M SLOW AND I'VE NOT GRASPED THE NUANCES HERE, BUT BEFORE WE ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER REMOVING A TOOL, I WOULD LIKE TO BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE THAT WE ARE NOT REMOVING A SAFEGUARD OR A PLANNING TOOL THAT REALLY BENEFITS OUR COMMUNITY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I WOULD LIKE TO EITHER SEE THIS DEFERRED OR REWRITTEN AND USE THE WORD REVIEW INSTEAD OF REMOVE.
AND I AM COMPLETELY CLUELESS HOW TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT EFFECT.
SO MY COUNSELOR MAY BE ABLE TO PULL ME OUT OF THIS, OR IT MAY BE SHE CAN'T ANSWER MY COMMENT, SIR.
I BELIEVE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, TO APPROVE AS AMENDED AND AMEND THE WORD REVIEW.
MAN, I WANNA SIT NEXT TO YOU NEXT YEAR.
UM, WELL, WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I GOT A LITTLE AHEAD OF MYSELF, MR. WINFREY.
UM, AND I AGREE YOUR LOGIC MAKES A LOT OF SENSE, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, UH, THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A BELT BEFORE WE TAKE THE SUSPENDERS OFF.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO SEVERAL MEETINGS WHERE THIS WAS BROUGHT UP, UH, SOME A, UM, COMMUNITY MEETING AS WELL AS SOME STAFF CONVERSATIONS AND SO FORTH.
AND I WAS PRETTY MUCH CONVINCED THAT WE DID HAVE, UH, OTHER PROTECTIONS, UH, THAT WOULD, UH, GIVE US SOME COMFORT LEVEL IF WE DID AWAY WITH THIS ENTIRELY.
I MEAN, THAT'S, AT ONE POINT I WAS THINKING THAT THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO GO, IS JUST TAKE AWAY ENTIRELY, UH, BEING AWARE.
AND I'M NOT, NOT SURE OF ALL, BUT I THINK, I THINK ALL BUT MAYBE AT LEAST MOST OF OUR SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES DON'T HAVE IT
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AT ALL.AND I ALSO AM MINDFUL THAT IT MAY BE IF WE LAYER ON, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THESE PROTECTIONS ONE WAY AND ONE PLACE, AND THEN WE LAYER ON SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU KNOW, IS IT, UH, BECOMING AN IMPEDIMENT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? AND, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY I WANT TO GO ON RECORD BEING, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
SO, MR. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, FOR MR. CARPENTER AS THIS IS, AS IT'S SENT, WE, MY EXPERIENCE, WE HAVEN'T SENT A LOT OF THINGS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, LIKE THIS.
ARE THEY, ARE WE RESTRICTING THEM EITHER WAY? IF WE SAY REMOVE AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS TO NOT REMOVE, ARE THEY ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES OR RECOMMEND CHANGES OR, OR, OR IS IT STRICTLY THEY HAVE TO REMOVE IT IF YOU SAID IT THAT WAY? AND I WOULD SOMEWHAT DEFER TO THE ATTORNEY ON THAT, WHETHER THEY CAN CONSIDER SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
UM, SO I, I'LL JUST, THE, THE BOARD ACTION THAT IS BEFORE YOU IS A SIMPLE REFERRAL.
YOU'RE GONNA REFER A PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, AND YOU WOULD LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW, CONSIDER AND, AND REPORT, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION REPORT BACK TO YOU ON IT.
UM, THE WORD REMOVE IS ONE WORD THAT'S DESCRIBING THE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT'S SHOWN.
'CAUSE THERE ARE PLACES WHERE FAR IS REMOVED IN CERTAIN OF THE SECTIONS.
SO YOU ARE NOT MAKING ANY ACTION TO REMOVE YOUR ACTION.
IS THERE'S AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT HERE, WE'D LIKE TO REFER IT.
AND THAT'S, THAT REFERRAL INCLUDES FULL CONSIDERATION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH CAN INCLUDE AND HAS IN THE PAST, INCLUDE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU HAVE REFERRED TO THEM.
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO RUBBER STAMP IT.
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO JUST ALL NOD THEIR HEADS AND SEND IT BACK.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO REVIEW, CONSIDER IT, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE THEIR OWN RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.
AND THAT ALL COULD INCLUDE CHANGES TO WHAT'S, UM, FROM WHAT YOU'VE REFERRED TO WHAT THEY REPORT BACK ON.
MR. CHRISTIE, ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? UM, OKAY.
I'D LIKE TO ASK, UM, SARAH WORLEY OF GLAND COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO COME UP BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AS MR. WINFREY, UH, REFERRED TO THAT THIS WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON GLAND COUNTY'S ABILITY TO ATTRACT STRONG ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, ESPECIALLY AGAIN IN A VERY COMPETITIVE MARKET AGAINST OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES IN THE REGION.
UH, MR. VADER, SARAH WORLEY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR GLAND COUNTY.
UH, THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IS BROUGHT TO YOU, UM, VIA STAFF.
UH, THERE MAY BE SOME CONFUSION THERE.
THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT THAT HAS GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
YOU'RE GONNA BE HEARING IT AT TONIGHT, UH, BROUGHT TO YOU BY AN APPLICANT.
UM, AND, AND THIS IS, UH, STAFF'S ATTEMPT AT BRINGING IT BACK FORWARD WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DO REMOVE FAR, UH, FROM CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS.
UH, THOSE WOULD BE THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
UM, TO YOUR POINT, MR. LYLE, THIS, THIS, UM, THERE ARE OTHER TOOLS IN PLACE.
THERE ARE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, THERE ARE SETBACKS, THERE ARE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, THERE ARE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS, THERE ARE STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS THAT ALL LIMIT DEVELOPMENT ON A SITE ALREADY.
AND AS THIS GOES THROUGH THE PROCESS, SO AS IT GOES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND AS IT COMES BACK TO YOU FOR PUBLIC HEARING, STAFF IS GONNA BE PREPARED TO SHOW YOU WHAT ALL OF THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW, UM, THESE LOTS ARE STILL PROTECTED.
SO TODAY IT JUST IS GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, THIS WOULD BE A MOTION TO REFER THIS ORDINANCE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO WE CAN GO BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UM, AND THEN STAFF CAN BETTER EXPLAIN, UH, OUR POSITION FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT.
I APPRECIATE IT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UH, JUST IN RESPONSE TO THAT, I SO APPRECIATE IT.
AND AGAIN, IT'S BEEN STAND UP HALLWAY CONVERSATIONS AND, UM, I GUESS THIS IS PRE SHADOW.
I'M STILL GONNA MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT WE USE THE WORD REVIEW AS OPPOSED TO REVIEW OR REMOVE, UH, JUST BECAUSE I'M MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REVIEW IT.
AND IF YOU SHOW ME THE TABLE THAT SAYS THIS DOES THIS AND THIS DOES THIS, AND WE DON'T NEED THIS 'CAUSE WE GOT THIS, THEN I'LL PROBABLY BE REAL GOOD WITH IT.
AND, UM, WHEN YOU'RE READY, I, I HAVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PROCESS.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
I, I'M, I'M ADDRESSING, UH, MR. WINFREY FIRST, MR. LAU, I MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AS PRESENTED.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.
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AYES HAVE IT.AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, PASSES.
UM, THAT, SEEING THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH ALL THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS NOW, UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
[XI. New Business]
WE HAVE, YES, THANK YOU.UM, THIS AFTERNOON WE HAVE SEVEN COMMITTEES TO WHICH WE WILL BE MAKING APPOINTMENTS.
UM, FORGIVE THE ACRONYMS, BUT I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THEY ALL STAND FOR.
FIRST WE HAVE AN APPOINTMENT TO THE C-V-T-A-T-A-C, THAT IS THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPOINTMENT OF AUSTIN GOIN AS STAFF ALTERNATE REAPPOINTMENT JUNE 1ST WITH A TERM OF JUNE 1ST, 2024 TO MAY 31ST, 2026.
SECOND, WE HAVE THE C-V-W-M-A, WHICH IS THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA WASTE MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY.
AND WE HAVE TWO APPOINTMENTS PROPOSED FOR THERE.
UM, WENDY GRADY AS A STAFF DELEGATE REAPPOINTMENT FROM JUNE 1ST, 2024 TO MAY 31ST, 2026, AND DON LEFTWICH AS A STAFF.
ALTERNATE APPOINTMENT, UH, FROM JUNE 1ST, 2024 TO MAY 31ST, 2026.
NEXT WE HAVE THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA WASTE MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, WITH, UH, PROPOSING DON LEFTWICH AS STAFF DELEGATE AND WENDY GRADY AS STAFF ALTERNATE.
NEXT WE HAVE THE CLEO CAPITAL REGION WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
UH, CLEO STANDS FOR THE CONSORTIUM OF CHIEF LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND WE ARE PROPOSING JOSH GILLESPIE, OUR DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR AS AN ALTERNATE STAFF APPOINTEE SERVING AT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
NEXT WE HAVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING KENNETH COLLIER BE REAPPOINTED, UH, WITH A TERM FROM JULY 1ST, 2024 TO JUNE 30TH, 2028.
NEXT TO THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD.
WE WERE PROPOSING BARBARA YOUNG WITH A REAPPOINTMENT EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2024 TO JUNE 30TH, 2028.
AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, WE HAVE THE R-R-T-P-O-T-A-C, WHICH IS THE RICHMOND REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO WHICH WE ARE PROPOSING AUSTIN GOIN BE A STAFF MEMBER REAPPOINTMENT, UM, FROM JUNE 1ST, 2024 TO MAY 31ST, 2026.
AND TOM COLEMAN OF OUR PLANNING, UM, TEAM AS STAFF ALTERNATE REAPPOINTMENT FROM JUNE 1ST, 2024 TO MAY 31ST, 2026.
UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM ANY OF THE SUPERVISORS TO APPROVE THIS SLATE AS A GROUP? UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK TO ONE OF THE NOMINATIONS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT TIME IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT BEFORE I THINK THE VOTE.
MR. LYLE, UH, I, I DO WANT SHARE SOME COMMENTS REGARDING, UH, THE NOMINATION OF BARBARA YOUNG TO THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
AND FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK MS. YOUNG, KEVIN NIELSEN HALL, CURTIS BROWN, PEGGY FINNICK, AND CHASE SABA FOR SUBMITTING THEIR NAMES FOR CONSIDERATION.
IT'S AN UNPAID VOLUNTEER POSITION, AND I BELIEVE THESE FIVE WHO ASK TO BE CONSIDERED HAVE A SINCERE INTEREST IN SUPPORTING LIBRARIES IN GENERAL AND SPECIFICALLY IN SUPPORTING THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY SYSTEM AND GLANDS RANCH.
UH, THESE PAST FIVE MONTHS, I THINK LIKE MOST OF US ON THE BOARD, I'VE RECEIVED A NUMBER OF CALLS, TEXT MESSAGE, AND EMAILS REGARDING THE PRL SYSTEM.
UH, CLEARLY GLAND RESIDENTS LOVE THEIR LIBRARIES.
I BELIEVE I'VE RESPONDED TO EVERY EMAIL, TEXT, AND PHONE CALL I RECEIVED.
AND IF I MISSED ONE, I APOLOGIZE.
UH, IN MY CONVERSATIONS AND CORRESPONDENCE WITH CITIZENS, I HAVE CONSISTENTLY NOTED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS RESPONSIBLE PRIMARILY FOR PROVIDING BUDGET SUPPORT TO THE PRL.
WE DON'T SET POLICY OR HANDLE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS.
AND AS I HAVE SHARED IN MY EMAIL REPLIES AND CONVERSATIONS, THE GLAND BUDGET THIS BOARD APPROVED IN APRIL HAS A 7% INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR THE PRL.
AND ADDITIONALLY, MORE THAN $70,000 IS SLATED TO BE INVESTED BY GLAND IN IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LIBRARY BUILDING HERE IN THE COURTHOUSE.
INDEED, THE GLAND BUDGET DEMONSTRATES THIS BOARD SUPPORTS THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY SYSTEM BEYOND MONEY.
THIS BOARD ALSO IS ENTRUSTED WITH APPOINTING GLAND'S REPRESENTATIVES TO THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
THAT MEANS, WHILE THE SUPERVISORS DO NOT ADDRESS POLICY PERSONNEL OR THE PR L'S DAILY OPERATIONS, UH, BY APPOINTING A TRUSTEE THAT IS A ONCE REMOVED ADMINISTRATION OF THE PRL SYSTEM,
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WE RECEIVED FIVE APPLICATIONS FOR THE TRUSTEE APPOINTMENT.AND LIKE YOU, I REVIEWED EACH OF THOSE APPLICATIONS AND I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICATIONS WHO FOLLOWED UP THEIR WRITTEN APPLICATIONS BY CALLING ME.
AND NOTE THAT I SAID THE APPLICANTS WHO CALLED ME IN MY PRIVATE INDUSTRY DAYS, I FOUND THAT A JOB APPLICANT WHO FOLLOWED UP A ONE ON ONLINE APPLICATION WITH A CALL, WITH REQUEST FOR AN INTERVIEW, THOSE WERE THE MOST SERIOUS AND FOCUSED APPLICANTS, AND ONLY ONE APPLICANT CALLED ME THAT WAS BARBARA YOUNG.
BUT TO MAKE SURE I DID MY JOB ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY, I REACHED OUT TO THE OTHER FOUR APPLICANTS AND I CALLED THEM IN ORDER TO HAVE A CONVERSATION BEYOND THE ONLINE APPLICATION.
I CONNECTED WITH THREE ADDITIONAL APPLICANTS THE FOURTH TODAY.
AND WHEN WE TALKED, I EXPRESSED FIVE SPECIFIC AREAS OF INTEREST, CONCERNS OF MINE ABOUT THE PRL, AND THEY ARE ON THE BUDGET AND THE LATE FINANCIAL AUDITS FROM 22 AND 23.
ONE OF THE REASONS OTHER COUNTIES ARE LEAVING THE PRL ON KNOWING IF THE VARIOUS BYLAWS, POLICIES, AND STAFF TRAINING FOR THE PRL ARE CURRENT AND WHEN WERE THEY LAST REVIEWED AND UPDATED, WHAT IS THE LONG RANGE PLAN FOR THE PRL RATHER THAN A FUZZY OR NON-EXISTENT FIVE YEAR PLAN? AND THE PUBLIC CONFUSION SURROUNDING THE ROLE OF THE TRUSTEES.
ARE THEY ADVISORY AS SOME HAVE SUGGESTED, OR ARE THEY GOVERNING, WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE READ IN THE PUBLIC VIRGINIA PUBLIC LIBRARY TRUSTEE HANDBOOK.
SO I ASK THESE APPLICANTS FIVE QUESTIONS, WHAT WILL YOU DO TO HAVE THE 2223 AUDITS COMPLETED AND SHARED WITH THE PARTICIPATING COUNTY'S BOARDS? AND WHAT COMMITMENT WILL YOU MAKE TO HAVE THE 24 AUDIT COMPLETED IN A TIMELY MANNER? WHAT WILL YOU DO TO STOP AND POSSIBLY REVERSE COUNTIES FROM LEAVING THE LIBRARY SYSTEM? HOW CAN THE OPERATIONAL, OPERATIONAL ECONOMIES OF SCALE BE PRESERVED AND IMPROVED? AND HOW AND WHEN WILL YOU HAVE THE BYLAWS POLICIES, AND STAFF TRAINING REVIEWED AND UPDATED? WHAT TRAINING WILL THEY TAKE AS A TRUSTEE TO PURSUE REGARDING THEIR EDUCATION ON WHAT IS NEEDED IN THEIR PERFORMANCE AS A LIBRARY TRUSTEE? AND WHAT KINDA LINE BY LINE ITEM BUDGET REVIEW WERE THEY GOING TO TAKE? IS THE PRL RUNNING A SURPLUS? DOES IT HAVE REASONABLE OPERATING AND CAPITAL RESERVES? IS IT PROPERLY STAFFED? I DON'T THINK US ON THE BOARD KNOW THOSE ANSWERS, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT A TRUSTEE REPRESENTATIVE WOULD GET US AND MAKE US KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW.
AND THEN WHAT FINANCIAL IMPACT IMPACT WILL THE DEPARTURE OF THESE TWO COUNTIES HAVE ON THE PRL? WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT THAT WITH ONE DEPARTURE THERE IS NO, UH, DEMAND ON INCREASED FUNDING FROM GLAND.
ALL OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS WERE HELPFUL AND I APPRECIATED THE TIME THAT THE APPLICANTS TOOK.
UM, LET ME SAY AGAIN THAT MY FOCUS IS ON THE EFFICIENT OPERATIONS AND THE FINANCIAL HEALTH OF THE PRL, BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T NOTICE THERE'S A PHILOSOPHICAL NOTE THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED IN A NUMBER OF LETTERS AND CALLS.
THEY RECEIVED THOSE COMMENTS FOCUSED ON THE MANNER IN WHICH SOME MATERIALS IN THE LIBRARY SHOULD BE SHELVED AND HOW PARENTS SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THEIR CHILDREN'S BOOK SELECTIONS.
SHOULD THERE BE AN OPT-IN OR AN OPT-OUT POLICY REGARDING BOOK CIRCULATION? OR SHOULD THERE BE NO CIRCULATION POLICY FOR CHILDREN AT ALL? I THINK THAT CHILDREN CIRCULATION POLICY IS A VERY APPROPRIATE CONVERSATION TO BE HAD BETWEEN TRUSTEES, STAFF, AND THE PATRONS OF THE PRL SETTING POLICIES ON HOW MATERIALS IN THE PRL SYSTEM ARE ADMINISTERED FOR CIRCULATION IS A FUNCTION OF THE TRUSTEES.
AS I READ THE CHARTER, AND AS I NOTED, I BELIEVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION REGARDING AN OPT-IN OR OUT OPT-OUT CIRCULATION POLICY IS A HUNDRED PERCENT APPROPRIATE.
I HOPE THAT CONVERSATION DOES TAKE PLACE AND CONVERSATION IS AN IMPORTANT WORD THERE.
I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT NONE OF THE APPLICANTS THAT I SPOKE WITH ADVOCATED BANNING BOOKS OR BURNING BOOKS.
NONE OF THE APPLICANTS I SPOKE WITH ADVOCATED BANNING BOOKS OR BURNING BOOKS.
NONE OF THE APPLICANTS EXPOSED OR ADVOCATED IN AN UNETHICAL OR ILLEGAL PHILOSOPHY REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF POLICIES OR REGARDING THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE SYSTEM.
AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE CONCERNS REGARD REGARDING PURPORTEDLY UNETHICAL INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS INVOLVING TRUSTEES HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH ME IN DOING MY DUE DILIGENCE.
I TALKED TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY TO HEAR WHETHER CONVERSATIONS, INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS AND CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN TRUSTEES, COUNTY STAFF, SUPERVISORS, SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS, VOTERS, AND CITIZENS CAN TAKE PLACE AND BE A HUNDRED PERCENT FOIA AND COIA COMPLIANT.
MEETINGS LIKE THAT CAN TAKE PLACE.
AND THAT'S REASSURING BECAUSE AS A SUPERVISOR, I WANT TO GET INFORMATION.
HE SHARED PERSPECTIVES AND RECEIVE OPERATIONAL UPDATES, ESPECIALLY IF I'M GOING TO VOTE ON INVESTING TAXPAYER MONEY TO SUPPORT THAT ORGANIZATION.
I WANT MORE INFORMATION, NOT LESS.
AND I'M GOING TO BOLDLY SUGGEST THAT THERE ARE MORE THAN 13 PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM WHO HAVE GOTTEN CALLS FROM ME ASKING FOR THEIR OPINION, FOR THEIR INFORMATION AND THEIR PERSPECTIVE ON A VARIETY OF TOPICS.
AND THOSE CALLS, THOSE MEETINGS WERE NOT ALWAYS POSTED ON THE COUNTY'S CALENDAR.
SOME WERE PLANNED, SOME WERE SPONTANEOUS.
I BELIEVE ALL OF MY CALLS WERE ETHICAL AND COMPLIED WITH FOIA AND KOYA.
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CALLS AND MY MEETINGS ARE SIMILAR IN NATURE TO THOSE THAT THE TRUSTEE CONVERSATIONS AND MEETINGS TOOK PLACE THAT WERE OF CONCERN TO OTHER PEOPLE.AND I DON'T PLAN TO STOP MAKING THOSE CALLS OR HAVING THOSE MEETINGS.
IT'S UP TO YOU AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE TO PUT MY NUMBER IN BLOCK CALL MODE IF YOU BELIEVE MY CALLS ARE UNETHICAL OR NEFARIOUS.
IF YOU DO ANSWER THE PHONE, I SUGGEST YOU PUT A 10 MINUTE TIMER ON IT.
COLLEAGUES, I APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THIS APPOINTMENT.
IT'S BEEN AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION POINT FOR THIS COUNTY AND THIS COMMUNITY.
I WILL BE VOTING ON THIS APPOINTMENT WITH THE BELIEF THAT THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PRL SYSTEM CAN BE SERVED AND THAT ALL THE VOLUNTEER PRL TRUSTEES ARE GOING TO MORE THAN EARN THEIR PAY IN 24 AND BEYOND.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? MORE DISCUSSION.
DO, IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? YES.
MR. AU YEAH, SO I, I'M, I'VE GOTTA LEARN TO JUMP IN BEFORE MR. LYLE BECAUSE HE'S A LOT MORE ELOQUENT THAN I AM.
UM, IT WAS INTERESTING WHEN I, WHEN I RAN FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I REMEMBER STANDING OUTSIDE WOOD STORE WITH SOMEBODY AND SHE'S LIKE, SHE ASKED ME IF I WAS A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT.
I SAID, WHAT DOES IT MATTER? IT'S LOCAL POLITICS.
FIVE YEARS LATER, BOY, THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE.
AND I WAS ON ONE OF THE, UH, PARTY'S WEBSITES TODAY, AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THEY HIGHLIGHT IS THE DIVIDE, THAT IT CONTINUES TO INCREASE.
AND I THINK THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
UM, AND I, I STRUGGLE MOSTLY WITH THE LANGUAGE, THE TONE THAT HAS BEEN FOLLOWING THIS CONVERSATION.
WORDS LIKE UNETHICAL WORDS, LIKE, UM, REMOVING FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
I'VE, I'VE RAISED MY HAND ON A BIBLE THREE TIMES TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THIS UNITED STATES.
UM, SO TO SAY THAT I WOULD PUT THE CONSTITUTION RIGHT, IT'S JUST INSULTING.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S JUST SO FAR FROM THE TRUTH THAT I, IT'S HARD TO TAKE SERIOUS.
THERE'S A LOT OF GASLIGHTING GOING ON.
AND I, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SUCH A FUNNY TERM.
I JUST LEARNED HOW THAT CAME TO BE THE OTHER DAY.
BUT THE DEFINITION IS THE ACT OF MISLEADING SOMEONE, ESPECIALLY FOR ONE'S OWN ADVANTAGE.
WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT THIS BOARD OF TRUSTEES IS TRYING TO REMOVE BOOKS, THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO BAN BOOKS, IT'S GASLIGHTING WHEN THEY'RE SAYING THAT, UM, THE FIRST AMENDMENT ISN'T BEING, IS THREATENED, IT'S GASLIGHTING.
WHEN THEY'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S SECRET MEETINGS GOING ON BECAUSE OF TWO BOARD MEMBERS MEET WITH SOMEONE THAT IS APPOINTED.
IT'S MY OBLIGATION, MY DUTY, AND MY PRIVILEGE TO APPOINT PEOPLE.
AND IT'S NOT AN ELECTED POSITION.
SO IF I'M GONNA MEET WITH SOMEBODY TO BETTER THIS COUNTY, ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTY, NOT JUST A FEW INDIVIDUALS, IT IS MY OBLIGATION AND DUTY AND PRIVILEGE TO DO THIS.
SO, AND I WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
ONE OF THE, UH, AND THEN LET ME TALK, UH, ABOUT OUR APPOINTEE REAL QUICK.
I, I DIDN'T KNOW, I WISH SHE WAS APPOINTED, BUT I WAS, HAD THE PRIVILEGE SINCE SHE'S WOOED INTO MY DISTRICT TO WORK WITH HER, NEVER ONCE HAVE I HEARD ANYTHING OTHER THAN AN UTTER REGARD FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
I I BELIEVE I, I, I'M NOT GONNA SAY BELIEVE, I KNOW THAT WE ARE FIGHTING VERY HARD FOR THE, TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WHEN I, WHENEVER YOU HEAR ME SPEAK UP HERE, I, I TRY VERY HARD NOT TO SAY COUNTY.
I SAY COMMUNITY, AND OUR COMMUNITY IS VERY LOUD AND VERY CLEAR, UM, ON WHAT THIS COUNTY BELIEVES IN AND WHAT IT IS.
SO WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS THE, THE, IF AN EMAIL TODAY SAID, IF WE HAVE TWO SEATS, AT LEAST ONE WHO AGREES WITH THE VAST MAJORITY OF CITIZENS SHOULD BE APPOINTED, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WE WILL HAVE TWO SEATS THAT ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THE VAST BY LAST ELECTION, 75% OF THE COUNTY AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF, IF NOT, I WAS GONNA MAKE A COUPLE REMARKS.
UM, FIRST OFF, I WE'RE FOCUSING OUR ATTENTION ON ONE, UH, APPOINTMENT.
UH, I WANT TO THANK MR. GOYIN, UM, MS. GRADY, MR. LEFTWICH, MR. GILLESPIE, MR. COLLIER, MS. YOUNG, UM, AND MR. COLEMAN FOR BEING WILLING TO SERVE AS APPOINTEES TO THIS COUNTY.
THIS IS A, THESE ARE OFTEN THANKLESS JOBS.
AND TO SEE THE RHETORIC BANTED, UH, AROUND ABOUT IS UNFORTUNATE.
AND THAT'S WHAT GETS CITIZENS FROM OFTENTIMES WANTING TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY IN THESE, UH, POSITIONS.
SO I WANT TO THANK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM AND HOPE THAT WE DON'T DETER THESE INDIVIDUALS FROM SERVING THEIR COMMUNITIES.
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MAKE A PLUG, UH, I HIGHLY RECOMMEND GASLIGHT FOR WHICH INGRID BERGMAN WON AN ACADEMY AWARD, IF YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN IT, BECAUSE IT IS A QUITE AN EXCELLENT FILM.SO, UM, WITH THAT, I WILL MOVE, UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THESE APPOINTMENTS? UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.
UM, WE WILL NOW BREAK UNTIL OUR 6:00 PM PUBLIC HEARING MEETING.
THANK YOU TO ALL CITIZENS AND STAFF FOR BEING HERE.
[XII. Dinner Break/Recess]
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RECONVEY THE JUNE 4TH, 2024 MEETING OF THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.UH, WE WILL FIRST OPEN THE FLOOR FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.
CITIZENS ARE REMINDED THAT COMMENTS SHOULD BE ABOUT ITEMS NOT COVERED BY THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
CITIZENS ARE REMINDED THAT COMMENTS SHOULD BE ABOUT ITEMS NOT COVERED BY THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEING HELD LATER TONIGHT.
COMMENTS SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL AND NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IN LENGTH.
SHOULD MULTIPLE CITIZENS WISH TO HAVE A COMMON SPEAKER, THEY MAY SEE THEIR TIME IN TWO MINUTE INCREMENTS, UP TO A TOTAL ALLOTTED TIME OF 10 MINUTES PER BOARD.
RULES OF PROCEDURE SECTION 3.2, A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME INTENDED TO NOT BE MORE THAN AN HOUR IS ALLOCATED FOR CITIZEN'S COMMENT, AND I WILL NOW OPEN THE PERIOD.
[XIV. Citizen Comment]
GOOD EVENING.WE'RE OVER VIRGINIA LANE IN HAYDENVILLE, AND I'VE BEEN COMING FOR THE PAST THREE MONTHS TALKING ABOUT THE HUNTING ISSUES OUT THERE AT ROYAL VIRGINIA STATES.
AND TONIGHT, I JUST WANT TO THANK MR. CARPENTER.
HE REACHED OUT TO ME TWO WEEKS AGO.
LAST WEEK WE HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, MR. CARPENTER, ER JESSICA BERG AND PAUL DRUM WHITE.
I THINK WE'RE MAKING SOME HEADWAY, SO I'M HOPEFUL TILL THE NEXT HUNTING SEASON COMES AROUND, WE'LL HAVE A RESOLUTION.
SO I BASICALLY JUST WANTED TO THANK MR. CARPENTER FOR REACHING OUT TO ME AND LETTING ME KNOW THAT I HAVEN'T BEEN FORGOTTEN, GOTTEN.
SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.
WE'LL NOW MOVE TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UH, SINCE THE APPLICATION FROM SIDNEY AND SIDNEY WAS DEFERRED, UM, I'M SORRY, MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO ANNOUNCE THE ITEM.
TAKE UP A MOTION THAT WE'VE TOLD FOLKS THAT THEY'VE SOUGHT A DEFERRAL, BUT THE BOARD HAS NOT YET ACTED ON IT.
[XV. Public Hearings]
UM, SO THE FIRST HEARING TONIGHT IS, UH, CASE RZ[1. District 3 - RZ-2024-00001 Application by Sidney & Sidney Developments, LLC requesting to rezone 55.414 acres from Agricultural, Limited (A-2) to Residential, Limited (R-1) with proffered conditions, to allow for a residential subdivision at the intersection of Greenbriar Branch Drive and Glebe Road on Tax Map Nos. 43-26-0-1-0, 43-26-0-2-0, 43-26-0-3-0, 43-26-0-4-0, 43-26-0-5-0, and 43-26-0-6-0. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Single Family Residential. Applicant has requested a deferral of this application to the Board of Supervisors July 2, 2024 Meeting.]
DASH 2024 DASH ONE, THE APPLICATION BY SYDNEY AND CINDY SYDNEY DEVELOPMENTS LLC REQUESTING TO REZONE 55.414 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED FROM A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS TO ALLOW FOR A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION AT THE INTERSECTION OF GREENBRIER BRANCH DRIVE AND GLEBE ROAD.THE DEVELOPERS REQUESTED A DEFERRAL UNTIL JULY 2ND, 2024 MEETING.
ANY DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIRMAN? I WOULD MOVE THE BOARD.
WE ACCEPT THEIR DEFERRAL AND DEFER IT UNTIL THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? UH, NO.
WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO.
[2. Countywide - Ordinance amending Goochland County Code Sec. 2-26 (Official electoral map, defined), Sec. 2-42 (Precinct names), Sec. 2-43 (Precinct descriptions), and Sec. 2-44 (Polling places) to create an additional precinct and polling place in District 4 and to update the official electoral map]
UH, REQUEST, UH, ORDINANCE AMENDING GLAND COUNTY CODE SECTION TWO DASH 26 FOR OFFICIAL ELECTORAL MAP, UH, DEFINED SECTION TWO DASH 42 PRECINCT NAMES SECTION TWO DASH 43 PRECINCT DESCRIPTIONS AND SECTION TWO DASH 44.POLLING PLACES TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL PRECINCT AND POLLING PLACE IN DISTRICT FOUR.
AND TO UPDATE THE OFFICIAL ELECTORAL MAP, MR. RYAN MULLIGAN COUNTY REGISTRAR WILL PRESENT HIS CASE.
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THANK YOU.UH, I'M HERE TONIGHT AND ON BEHALF OF MYSELF, THE GENERAL REGISTRAR AND THE GLAND COUNTY ELECTORAL BOARD, WHICH I HAVE, UH, CHAIR PAMELA JOHNSON WITH ME HERE TONIGHT.
UH, AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO ESTABLISH A NEW VOTING PRECINCT IN DISTRICT FOUR.
THIS WOULD BE PRECINCT 4 0 3 WEST CREEK.
UH, THE BOARD ACTION REQUEST IS AN ORDINANCE TO ESTABLISH A NEW PRECINCT, 4 0 3 WEST CREEK, UH, WHICH WOULD ALLEVIATE OVERCROWDING LONG LINES AND LONG WAIT TIMES FOR VOTERS AT THE CURRENT PRECINCT 4 0 2.
UM, I'LL EXPLAIN MORE OF THAT LATER, I GUESS.
SO, WHAT IS PROPOSED? ESTABLISHING A NEW PRECINCT, UH, 4 0 3 WEST CREEK.
UH, GENERALLY THE LOCATION OF THIS PRECINCT WOULD BE SOUTH OF BROAD STREET ROAD, EAST OF ROUTE 2 88.
AND THE SOUTHERN BORDER IS A LITTLE HARDER TO EXPLAIN, BUT BASICALLY NORTH OF WEST CREEK PAR PARKWAY.
SO BASICALLY THAT LITTLE SLIVER, UM, RIGHT THERE BETWEEN 2 88 AND HENRICO.
THE POLLING PLACE FOR THIS PRECINCT, UH, WILL BE AVERY POINT, OR WOULD BE AVERY POINT, UH, WHICH IS LOCATED AT 9,000.
AVERY POINT WAY, RICHMOND, VIRGINIA 2 3 2, 3 3.
THIS IS A PICTURE OF DISTRICT FOUR.
UH, THE PROPOSED PRECINCT IS THIS DARKER GRAY PART, UM, OVER IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT.
AND, UH, THIS PICTURE ALSO SHOWS THIS, UH, KIND OF TEALISH GREEN LINE THAT CUTS BETWEEN PRECINCT 4 0 1 ON THE LEFT AND 4 0 2 ON THE RIGHT.
THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DIVISION THERE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE STATE USES TO DIVIDE HOUSE OF DELEGATES DISTRICT 56 AND 57.
WE CAN'T MOVE THAT LINE TO ALLEVIATE, UH, TO TAKE VOTERS OUTTA PRECINCT 4 0 2.
UH, AND THIS IS A MORE CLOSEUP AND A SATELLITE IMAGE OF THE PROPOSED PRECINCT.
UM, REALLY THE ONLY THE THREE MAJOR POPULATION CENTERS THAT WOULD BE CAUGHT IN THIS PRECINCT ARE THREE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
IT WOULD, OF COURSE BE THE AVERY POINT COMPLEX.
IT WOULD BE THE, UH, RETREAT AT WEST CREEK AND THEN AT THE SOUTHERN END IT WOULD ALSO BE, UH, 2000 WEST CREEK.
AND ALL IN ALL, THAT, UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 1,269 VOTERS.
SO THAT WOULD TAKE 1,269 VOTERS OUT OF PRECINCT 4 0 2 AND CREATE A NEW PRECINCT FOR THEM.
WHY IT'S NEEDED, UH, TO REDUCE OVERCROWDING AND LONG LINES, UM, WHICH IS UNSAFE, UH, REALLY, UM, WHEN WITH PARKING AT PRECINCT 4 0 2 CENTERVILLE, PEOPLE STANDING IN THE PARKING LOT, PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUT, UM, YOU'RE KIND OF GOING DOWN A HILL AND THEN UP A HILL.
SO THERE'S KIND OF LIKE A, A BLIND SPOT THERE.
SO I JUST TO ALLEVIATE HAVING SO MANY REGISTERED VOTERS SHOWING UP THERE DURING THE DAY, UM, BUT ALSO WOULD OBVIOUSLY REDUCE THE WAIT TIME FOR VOTERS.
'CAUSE THE LINES WOULDN'T BE AS LONG.
AND, UH, ANOTHER GOOD THING IS THAT RARELY, RARELY DOES THIS HAPPEN, BUT ACTUALLY FOR EVERYBODY WHO WOULD BE MOVED TO PRECINCT 4 0 3, THE POLLING PLACE WOULD BE CLOSER FOR THEM.
A LOT OF TIMES WITH REDISTRICTING AND PRECINCT, SOMEBODY'S CAUGHT WHERE THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO DRIVE FARTHER NOW TO GET TO THEIR POLLING PLACE.
THAT WOULD NOT BE THE, THE, UH, CASE HERE.
UH, I HAVE HERE A COUPLE OF, UH, PORTS.
UM, YOU CAN'T REALLY SEE IT, PROBABLY THE SIZE IT IS, BUT IT'S THE REGISTERED VOTERS FROM 2019.
I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED PRECINCTS 4 0 1 AND 4 0 2.
UM, AND IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT, UM, I'VE ALSO, UH, WRITTEN IT DOWN THERE AT THE BOTTOM.
BUT IN 2019, PRECINCT 4 0 2 HAD 2031 REGISTERED VOTERS.
I USED 2019 FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
FIRST, THAT'S WHEN THE CENSUS WAS BEING TAKEN, BUT ALSO, UM, THAT WAS RIGHT AFTER THERE WAS A PRECINCT LINE CHANGE BETWEEN PRECINCT 4 0 1 AND 4 0 2, BECAUSE ALREADY AT THAT TIME, 4 0 2 WAS GROWING.
SO WE WANTED TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT.
SO WE MOVED THE PRECINCT LINE BETWEEN 4 0 1, 4 0 2.
SO WHEN THIS NUMBER WAS TAKEN, WAS WHEN 4 0 2 WAS THE, HAD THE GEOGRAPHY THAT IT HAS TODAY.
UH, SO YEAH, IN 2019, 2031, REGISTERED VOTERS 2024 AS OF JUNE 1ST, 4,182 REGISTERED VOTERS IN PRECINCT 4 0 2.
SO THAT'S DOUBLED, UM, IN THAT TIME.
UH, THE IMPACTS OF THIS WOULD BE BOTH SERVICE AND, UH, BUDGET.
IT WOULD BE MORE EFFICIENT, UH, MORE CONVENIENT, MORE COMFORTABLE,
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QUICKER, AND OF COURSE SAFER FOR THE VOTERS.UH, THIS IS A PICTURE OF WHAT THE NEW ELECTORAL MAP WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH THE NEW PRECINCT ADDED AND THE DARKER GRAY DOWN THERE ON THE, THE EAST SIDE.
UH, SORRY, THAT WAS REALLY QUICK, BUT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? YEAH, UH, YEAH, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT PARKING WAS POTENTIALLY A PROBLEM AT AVERY POINT.
HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED OR LOOKED AT? UM, WE, WE'VE SPOKEN WITH THEM AND THEY SAID THEY'LL DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO TO, IT'S NOT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT'S THE ISSUE.
IT WOULD BE HAVING TO HAVE PEOPLE, NOT LIKE RESIDENTS NOT PARK THERE.
BUT THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING.
IT WOULD JUST BE A MATTER OF TELLING PEOPLE THAT ON THIS DAY, DON'T PARK IN THOSE SPOTS.
MR. UM, IS THERE, ARE THERE CRITERIA THAT, UH, HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED THAT LIMIT THE NUMBER IN A, IN ANY PRECINCT? I KNOW IT'S CONVENIENCE IS A THING, BUT, MM-HMM.
IS THERE A MAXIMUM IN ANY PRE PRECINCT, UH, BEFORE YOU SPLIT IT OFF? OKAY.
SO ONCE YOU REACH A CERTAIN THRESHOLD, SO WHEN IT'S ESTABLISHED, THERE CAN BE MORE THAN 5,000.
AFTER THAT, IT'S WHENEVER 4,000 VOTES ARE CAST IN A PRECINCT, UM, FOR A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, THEN I HAVE TO REPORT THAT TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
AND THEN THEY'RE REQUIRED TO REVISE THE PRECINCT LINE.
AND THEN THEY CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN 5,000 REGISTERED VOTERS AT THAT POINT.
SO I GUESS THERE IS A SLIM AREA WHERE I WOULD HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT WE HAD OVER 4,000 VOTES, BUT IT WOULD STILL BE UNDER 5,000 REGISTERED VOTERS.
BUT, UM, PRETTY MUCH AT THAT POINT, YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION.
UM, WE'RE A GROWING COUNTY, AND PARTICULARLY WITH LOCAL ELECTIONS, NOT ALL THE CANDIDATES ARE, ARE KNOWN TO VOTERS.
AND SO INTERACTION WITH VOTERS AND PROVIDING INFORMATION AT THE TIME OF VOTING CAN REALLY BE HELPFUL.
UH, HOW HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED? IS THERE GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR VOTER INFORMATION BY PARTISANS? MM-HMM.
I WOULD NEED YOU TO BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR ON WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
CAN MATERIALS BE PASSED OUT TO VOTERS AS THEY ARE ENTERING THE PRECINCT AND POLLING PLACE SO THAT THEY ARE AWARE OF EITHER THROUGH A SAMPLE BALLOT OR CAMPAIGN MATERIAL, WHO THE CANDIDATES ARE AND WHAT THEIR POSITIONS ARE? SO IF YOU'RE JUST STRICTLY TALKING ABOUT ELECTION MATERIAL BEING PASSED OUT, THEN, UM, I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT, UM, ACTUALLY LISA, I HAVE A HIDDEN SLIDE ON THE PRESENTATION WITH THAT.
UH, I THINK I'D HAVE TO UNHIDE IT FIRST.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU ANY BAD INFORMATION.
SO WHAT IT SAYS IS IT SHALL BE PERMISSIBLE TO DISTRIBUTE CAMPAIGN MATERIALS ON THE ELECTION DAY ON THE PROPERTY ON WHICH A POLLING PLACE IS LOCATED AND OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING CONTAINING THE ROOM WHERE THE ELECTION IS CONDUCTED, EXCEPT AS SPECIFICALLY PROHIBITED BY LAW.
SO, UH, AGAIN, FACT, THIS IS WHERE I'LL SAY I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT I WOULD THINK THAT TRESPASSING WOULD BE COVERED BY THAT.
SO IT'S, UM, THAT IS TO SAY ELECTION MATERIALS CAN BE PASSED OUT OUTSIDE, BUT HOWEVER, IF THEY TELL YOU TO LEAVE AND YOU DIDN'T LEAVE, YOU WOULD NOW BE TRESPASSING, WHICH WOULD BE AGAINST THE LAW.
UM, SO OBVIOUSLY, UH, AVERY POINT IS A PRIVATE LOCATION.
UH, THE COUNTY WILL HAVE AN AGREEMENT WE, UH, ENTER INTO WITH THEM AS WE DO WITH ALL POLLING LOCATIONS.
BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD, UH, MEETINGS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF AVERY POINT SEVERAL TIMES, AND MADE IT CLEAR TO THEM THAT IT WAS THE DESIRE OF, OF MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD THAT, UM, THAT THEY, UH, BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, UM, ABILITY FOR PARTIES TO HAND OUT INFORMATION.
UM, THEY WERE, UM, VERY RECEPTIVE TO THAT IDEA, UH, BECAUSE IT'S INSIDE A BUILDING.
THEY WERE SUGGESTING THEY WOULD SET UP TABLES INSIDE THE LOBBY VERSUS OUTSIDE INTENTS.
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UH, THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THEY WERE VERY RECEPTIVE TO THAT AS, UM, AS ONE OF THE SERVICES THEY COULD PROVIDE TO THE COUNTY AND MAKING SURE THAT PARTIES HAD THAT ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE THE INFORMATION TO THEM.I WILL ADD SUPPORT TO MR. CARPENTER'S COMMENTS IN THAT I'VE VISITED, UH, ON SITE WITH AVERY POINT RESIDENTS AND POSE THOSE QUESTIONS.
AND THEY WERE, UM, MORE THAN WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT IS TO BE EXPECTED ON AN ELECTION DAY, NOT JUST AT A BASELINE THEY SEE FIT.
I HAVE MEMORIES OF, UH, THE COLLEGIATE POLLING SPACE ON BLAIR ROAD THAT WAS NOT COMFORTABLE OR ACCOMMODATING.
COULD I JUST SAY SOMETHING? YES, MA'AM.
UM, SOME OF YOU ARE NEW AND MAY NOT KNOW THAT WE'VE, WE HAVE LOOKED AT THIS FOR THREE YEARS IN ORDER TO FIND A PLACE.
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH PLACES IN THE DISTRICT FOUR THAT ARE LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
AND SO WHEN THEY STEPPED UP AND SAID THEY'D LOVE TO BE THAT WE, THEY, AND THEY, THEY MEET ALL OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS HAVING TO DO WITH PARKING, ACCESSIBILITY, HANDICAP, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO INSPECT SITES FOR EVERY YEAR.
AND SO WE STARTED WORKING THREE YEARS AGO MENTIONING TO THE BOARD THAT WE WANTED TO DO THIS.
AND SO THEY'VE BEEN VERY MUCH AWARE THAT WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A, IN, IN ANTICIPATING THE GROWTH.
WE WERE SEEING THE GROWTH ALREADY, AND WE WERE NEW.
WE KNEW WE WOULD EXCEED THE NUMBERS, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ALL THESE, THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION COMING IN AND EVERYTHING IF WE DID NOT PLAN AHEAD.
SO THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF DOING THIS.
AND JUST SO YOU WILL KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO ANOTHER ONE IN DISTRICT FOUR IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO, BUT THIS IS THE ONE, THE PRIMARY ONE, THERE ARE NO SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS IN THIS DISTRICT.
THEY'RE ALL, ALL OF THE RESIDENTIALS ARE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.
IT'S UNIQUE TO GOOCHLAND, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT HAVING IT AT AVERY POINT, UH, MEETS THOSE NEEDS.
AND SO I, I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE APPROVE THIS.
UM, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE, UM, THE POLITICAL PARTIES TO REALIZE THAT THERE'S A SEPARATION OF DUTIES HERE.
YOU ALL TAKE CARE OF THE AGREEMENTS WITH THE PLACES THAT WE HAVE.
THE ELECTORAL BOARD SIMPLY JUST MAKES RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU.
WE DO NOT SELECT THE AREA WE GIVE YOU.
WE'LL LOOK FOR SOMETHING AND NOT ASK YOU TO DO THAT AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION WHEN IT COMES TO PARTY POLITICS AND HANDING OUT LITERATURE.
BOTH POLITICAL PARTIES NEED TO STEP UP AND, UH, ESTABLISH THEIR OWN RELATIONSHIP.
THEY HAVE NOT DONE THAT IN THIS COUNTY.
UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT TENTS.
I'LL TELL YOU, I MOVED HERE FROM ROANOKE COUNTY.
I ALSO LIVED IN ROANOKE CITY, AND I LIVED IN FRANKLIN COUNTY, AND THIS IS THE FIRST PLACE I EVER SAW TENTS THAT I STOOD OUT IN THE RAIN AND IN THE SNOW FOR YEARS UNDER AN UMBRELLA WITH MY COUNTERPART FROM THE OTHER PARTY UNDER THE SAME UMBRELLA, UH, CAMPAIGNING FOR YEARS.
AND THIS IS THE WAY IT WAS DONE.
AND WHEN I NEEDED TO GO FOR A BREAK, I WON'T SAY FOR WHAT SHE WOULD PASS OUT MY HAND, MY BALLOTS FOR ME, AND I WOULD DO THE SAME FOR HER.
THIS IS THE WAY ELECTIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE.
WE'RE ALL CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES, CITIZENS OF VIRGINIA AND CITIZENS OF GLAND COUNTY, AND WE NEED TO REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE A DUTY TO VOTE AND IN EXERCISING OUR DUTY, WE NEED TO BE KIND TO ONE ANOTHER WHEN WE DO THAT.
SO I'LL ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE YES ON THIS, UM, THIS MATTER.
UM, YEAH, JUST A, UH, JUST A CLARIFICATION BEFORE YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. CHAIR, WE'RE NOT VOTING OR ARE WE VOTING ON AVERY POINT, OR ARE WE ACTUALLY JUST VOTING ON THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PRECINCT? UM, UH, SO WE'RE VOTING ON THE ORDINANCE, WHICH I WOULD CONT CONTAIN BOTH.
OFFICIAL ELECTORAL MAP, PRECINCT NAMES, DESCRIPTIONS, AND POLLING PLACES.
AND JUST ONE FINAL POINT, UM, JUST SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE, CAN YOU CONFIRM, MR. MULLIGAN, THAT THERE ARE STILL A NUMBER OF UNITS TO BE BUILT ALREADY APPROVED YES.
TO BE BUILT AT AVERY POINT? SO WE ARE, UM, I KNOW IT'S BEEN REFERENCED THAT WE ARE PREPARING FOR THE FUTURE, BUT THIS IS GOING TO, THIS IS FUTURE GROWTH ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST CENSUS
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GROWTH AND NATURAL GROWTH.THERE ARE A NUMBER OF UNITS STILL, UM, YOU KNOW, IN PROCESS AND TO BE, UH, PHASED IN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
UM, AND IT IS A UNIQUE, KIND OF UNIQUE SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE AREN'T TRICKLING INTO THIS PRECINCT.
IT'S, THEY OPEN UP EVERY POINT OPENS UP LIKE A WHOLE BUILDING, AND WE'RE GETTING HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF VOTERS IN LIKE YES DAYS.
SO I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED TO SEE THE NUMBER OF THIS PRECINCT GO UP BY ANOTHER THREE OR 400 BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.
I MEAN, THIS IS VERY ACCOMMODATING TO THOSE RESIDENTS.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR THEM.
THEY, UM, THEY BUS VOTERS CURRENTLY, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY GOT OUT TO 4 0 2, UM, EVERY POINT BUSES VOTERS FROM WHERE THEY'RE OVER TO.
JUST TO CLARIFY THE PROCEDURE FOR FOLKS, UM, WE HAVE BEEN COM COMPLYING WITH THE VIRGINIA VOTING RIGHTS ACT FOR ADOPTING THAT TYPE OF THING, AND A NEW POLLING PLACE IN PRECINCT.
UM, UM, THERE'S BEEN IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, WE'VE HAD ONLINE COMMENTING FORMS, ALL OF WHICH HAVE BEEN POSITIVE, UH, SUPPORTING THIS.
BUT I ALSO WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT UNLIKE YOUR NORMAL ACTIONS IN WHICH WHEN YOU ADOPT SOMETHING THAT'S EFFECTIVE TODAY, AGAIN, BECAUSE OF THE VIRGINIA VOTING RIGHTS ACT, WE WILL PUBLICIZE THIS AND IT WILL BECOME EFFECTIVE 30 DAYS AFTER.
AND SO FOR ANYBODY VOTING IN THE JUNE 18TH PRIMARY, WHETHER YOU MIGHT VOTE EARLY AS MR. CHRISTIE DID TODAY OR ON THAT DAY, THIS CHANGE WILL NOT YET BE IN PLACE.
THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, MS. UM, OKAY.
SEEING NO MORE COMMENTS FROM THE DAYS, I'LL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.
LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD MANNEQUIN SABOT.
I, UH, WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS AS ONE PERSON WHO STOOD OUT IN THE POURING RAIN FOR SIX HOURS, UM, FOR THE, UH, BOND REFERENDUM.
UM, AND WE WERE BUSY THE WHOLE TIME AND PEOPLE WERE LOOKED LIKE DROWNED RATS, BUT THEN THEY GOT THROUGH.
THIS WILL ALSO HELP WITH ACCESSIBILITY FOR OLDER PEOPLE WITH MOBILITY ISSUES THAT NEED TO GET IN SAFELY.
AND THE RAIN AND THE SNOW THAT, THAT, THAT COULD HAPPEN IN NOVEMBER IS, IS A, IS A REAL ISSUE FOR ME.
WE WANT VOTERS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, UM, IN AND OUT, UM, AND ON THEIR WAY.
AND WE DON'T WANT LINES LIKE THAT HAVE BEEN AN ISSUE, ESPECIALLY AT ST.
THIS WILL ALLEVIATE IT, AS SOMEBODY SAID THAT AVERY POINT BUST IN, UM, QUITE A FEW OF THEIR RESIDENTS, UM, DURING THE LAST ELECTION.
UM, AND IT WAS GREAT TO SEE THAT AMOUNT OF PARTICIPATION AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT IT.
AND I, FOR ONE, WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT.
ANY MORE CITIZEN COMMENTS? OKAY.
I AM PART OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM AT AVERY POINT.
SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR TAKING UP THIS VOTE THIS EVENING.
I DO WANNA CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WE DO HAVE NEW RESIDENTS MOVING IN, AS YOU SAID, UM, REGULARLY BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.
WE WILL HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER 200 RESIDENTS LIVING AT AVERY.
UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL COMMUNITIES, UM, UNDER ERICKSON LIVING THAT HAVE POLLING PLACES NORTH OF 20 COMMUNITIES.
SO WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH HOW TO DO THIS, AND I COMMIT THAT WE WILL FOLLOW ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT WE ARE EXPECTED TO FOLLOW, UM, FOR AN ELECTION.
SO I HOPE THAT THIS GOES THROUGH, IT'LL BE A GREAT WIN FOR THE COMMUNITY, GREAT WIN FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO NOT HAVE TO TRAVEL.
UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE LOGISTICS OF THAT.
PARKING, UM, CAME UP AS A QUESTION WE'RE WORKING ON.
WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? WHERE SHOULD THOSE PARKING SPACES BE? BUT I GIVE YOU MY, UM, FULL ASSURANCE THAT WE WILL COMPLY WITH ALL THE RULES THAT WE NEED TO
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COMPLY WITH.UH, ANYMORE CITIZEN COMMENTS? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.
UM, ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I, I SEE ALL THE COMMERCIALS.
AVERY POINTS IN G WILL NOT IN SHORE PUMP, RIGHT? YES, CORRECT.
IS IS THERE A MOTION FROM THE DAYS? UH, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE CREATION.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PROVE THE CREATION OF THE PRECINCT, UH, AT HAND.
DO WE HAVE SPECIFIC, JUST AS PRESENTED LANGUAGE? OH YEAH, I'VE HAD IT
OFFICIALLY, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT, UH, THIS ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COUNTY CODE TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL PRECINCT AND POLLING PLACE IN DISTRICT FOUR AND TO UPDATE THE OFFICIAL ELECTORAL MAP.
MR. CARPENTER, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL CALL VOTE.
UM, WE'RE MAKING IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO VOTE IN GLAND COUNTY.
UM, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS,
[3. District 3 - CU-2024-00007 Application by Tamra and Douglas Adams (dba Adams International School) requesting to renew conditional use permit (CUP) CU-2013-00003 for a school, bed and breakfast, day camp, and public assembly place on 126.8 acres at 1655 Broad Street Road on Tax Map Nos. 32-1-0-77-0, 32-1-0-77-A, 32-1-0-77-B, and 32-1-0-77-C. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). A CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 in accordance with Secs. 15-285.G. and 15-290. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]
UM, ORDINANCE 6 0 8 1, A CONDITIONAL OF, UM, CU DASH 2024 DASH SEVEN AS AN APPLICATION BY TAMARA AND DOUGLAS ADAMS. DOING BUSINESS AS ADAMS INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL, REQUESTING TO RENEW A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR CUP CU DASH 2013 DASH THREE FOR A SCHOOL BED AND BREAKFAST DAY CAMP AND PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE ON 126.8 ACRES AT 1655 BROAD STREET ROAD.UH, MS. SHERRY WILL PRESENT THE CASE.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS AN APPLICATION BY TAMARA AND DOUG ADAMS FOR A RENEWAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SCHOOL DAY CAMP BED, AND BREAKFAST AND PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED SOUTH OF BROAD STREET ROAD AT THE INTERSEX INTERSECTION OF FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.
THE OVERALL PROPERTY IS COMPRISED OF FOUR PARCELS.
AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL PHOTO.
THERE ARE SEVERAL STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY AND A MAJORITY OF THE 126 ACRES PARCELS, PARCELS ARE OPEN FIELDS.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, AS ARE THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST, EAST, AND A PORTION OF THE NORTH.
ALSO TO THE NORTH ARE PROPERTIES ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
THIS IS THE BRIDGEWATER SUBDIVISION TO THE SOUTH.
THE ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL PRESERVATION, WHICH IS THE PRESERVE AT DEERFIELD SUBDIVISION.
THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, AND WEST AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS DESIGNATED FOR FUTURE RESIDENTIAL, LOW RESIDENTIAL, LOW DEVELOPMENT.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE SCHOOL AND DAY CAMP WERE APPROVED.
BACK IN 2009, THE PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY AND BED AND BREAKFAST WERE ADDED TO THE PERMIT IN 2015.
THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WAS RENEWED IN 2017.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE APPLICANTS ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE CUP USES OR THE FACILITIES.
THERE ARE SEVERAL BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY THAT ARE UTILIZED FOR THE CUP ACTIVITIES.
MOST NOTABLY, UH, THE UPSTAIRS, UPSTAIRS OF THE SCHOOL BARN IS UTILIZED FOR SCHOOL RELATED ACTIVITIES AND FOR PA, PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY USES SUCH AS REHEARSAL DINNERS.
AND THE DOWNSTAIRS IS USED FOR SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND OFFICES.
THE RED BARN IS USED FOR EVENTS ASSOCIATED WITH PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE, AS ARE THE SURROUNDING FIELDS.
AND THE LITTLE RED SCHOOLHOUSE IS USED FOR SCHOOL ACTIVITIES.
THE MAIN HOUSE AND THE GUEST HOUSE ARE USED FOR WEDDING PARTIES AND OVERNIGHT STAYS OR RED WEDDING PREPARATION.
THE MAIN HOUSE HAS 10 BEDROOMS ON THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOORS, AND THE BASEMENT AREA INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 3000 FINISHED SQUARE FEET OF SPACE.
SO THIS IS THE 2009 APPROVED PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT EXHIBIT A AS IT'S REFERENCED, UM, THAT SHOWS THE EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS ON THE, UH, PROPERTY
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AND THE, UH, WHERE THE ACTIVITIES OCCUR.UH, FOR IN, UH, FOR REFERENCE, THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE ARE LOCATED, UM, TO THE RE, UH, PRESERVE AT DEERFIELD SUBDIVISION.
THE MAIN MAR MANOR IS APPROXIMATELY 650 FEET TO THE CLOSEST HOUSE, AND THE RED BARN IS APPROXIMATELY 950 FEET TO THE CLOSEST HOUSE.
OTHER BUILDINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CUP ARE CLOSE TO BROAD STREET ROAD AND THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
A COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD IN OCTOBER, 2020.
TWO CITIZENS WERE IN ATTENDANCE.
QUESTIONS WERE ABOUT THE VENUE AND HOW THEY MADE CLIENTS ABIDE BY THE CONDITIONAL USE CONDITIONS.
AND IF THERE WERE ANY PROPOSED CHANGES AT THE APRIL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECORD APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION WITH A FIVE ZERO VOTE.
NOBODY SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE VOLUME CONDITIONS ARE BLACKLINED FROM THE 2017 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RENEWAL APPROVAL.
ALTHOUGH APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES, MANY OF THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN UPDATED TO OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS AND SOME CONDITIONS WERE ELIMINATED BECAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER PERTINENT.
CONDITION NUMBER ONE ALLOWS FOR THE CUP USES OF A SCHOOL, PUBLIC ASSEMBLY, PLACE, DAY CAMP, AND BED AND BREAKFAST CONDITION NUMBER TWO STATES THAT THE CUP USES MUST CONFORM TO EXHIBIT A, WHICH IS WHAT I REFERENCED AS THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE PRESENTATION.
CONDITION NUMBER THREE ADDRESSES BUILDING CAPACITY FOR THE BED AND BREAKFAST ACTIVITY.
NO MORE THAN 10 PERSONS MAY STAY OVERNIGHT PER STRUCTURE.
FOR THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY, USE A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY FOR THE SCHOOL BARN SHALL BE 299 PEOPLE.
CONDITION NUMBER FOUR, HEALTH CODE COMPLIANCE.
SO BASED ON THE DRAIN FIELD CAPACITY OF THE SCHOOL BARN OCCUPANCY IS LIMITED TO 56 STUDENTS AND STAFF MEMBERS AND ANY ADDITIONAL GUESTS REQUIRE A PORTA-POTTY, UM, USAGE UNTIL THE CAPACITY OF, UH, THE SEPTIC IS UPGRADED.
CONDITION FIVE DEALS WITH TRAFFIC.
SO ONCE THE NUMBER OF STUDENTS EXCEEDS 100, THE APPLICANT SHALL PREPARE AND SUBMIT A TRAFFIC STUDY TO ANALYZE THE NEED FOR TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS TURN LANES AT THE TWO ENTRANCES.
IF THE STUDY RECOMMENDS IMPROVEMENTS, THE APPLICANT SHALL CONSTRUCT THE REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS.
NUMBER SIX, THE ONLY TWO SIGNS ARE ALLOWED.
EACH OF THE SIGNS, UH, WILL BE LESS THAN 20 SQUARE FEET AND BE A MAXIMUM OF 10 FEET IN HEIGHT AND SHINE.
SIGNS WILL NOT BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED.
NUMBER SEVEN, NO FIREWORKS ARE ALLOWED.
NUMBER EIGHT, OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES.
UHHUH, OF COURSE, OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES, UM, SHALL, THERE SHALL BE NO OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES AFTER 11:00 PM NUMBER NINE, AMPLIFIED MUSIC.
AMPLIFIED MUSIC SHALL ONLY BE ALLOWED FROM FRIDAY AT NOON TO SUNDAY AT 7:00 PM AND MUST BE ORIENTED AWAY ADJACENT FROM THE PRESERVE AT DEERFIELD CONDITION.
A MINIMUM OF 53 PARKING SPACES SHALL BE PROVIDED ALONG WITH THE OVERFLOW PARKING AS DESIGNATED ON THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT CONDITION.
UM, AN APPROVED LIGHTING PLAN IS REQUIRED FOR ALL TEMPORARY AND NEW PERMANENT LIGHTING.
UH, NUMBER 12, UH, NUMBER OF EVENTS.
PUBLIC ASSEMBLY EVENTS OF MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE ARE LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN 60 AND ANY CALENDAR YEAR.
AT LEAST ONE UNIFORM SECURITY OFFICER MUST BE PRESENT THROUGHOUT ANY EVENT THAT IS A CHA, CHARGING FOR A MISSION, OR B, INCLUDING MUSIC, ALCOHOL, AND MORE THAN 150 GUESTS.
CONDITION NUMBER 14, UM, LIMITS ON TOTAL GUEST.
NO EVENT SHALL ADMIT MORE THAN 700 GUESTS.
AN INTERNAL ACCESS ROAD MUST BE MAINTAINED TO ACCESS THE CUP ACTIVITIES.
NUMBER 16, ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION.
WHEN ALCOHOL IS SERVED AT A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY EVENTS, THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL ENSURE THAT THE LICENSE FROM THE A BC CONTROL BOARD IS OBTAINED AND ALL THE REGULATIONS ARE ENFORCED.
UH, NUMBER 17, THAT THERE ARE, THE DISCHARGE OF FIREARMS IS PROHIBITED DURING ANY CUP ACTIVITY.
NUMBER 18 ANNUAL NOTICE, A SCHEDULE OF CUP EVENTS SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNTY AND REVISED, UM, AS IT IS SUITABLE.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS MUST NOTIFY THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRANSFER AND ALSO THE NEW OWNERS OR LEASE MUST BE MADE AWARE OF THE
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CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND CONDITIONS.AND LASTLY, UM, THE EXPIRATION.
SO THIS CUP APPLIES, THE EXPIRATION APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE AND THE BED AND BREAKFAST.
UM, THEY'RE GRANTED A, UH, 15 YEAR EXTENSION, WHICH GOES TO, UM, JULY OF 2039.
UM, HOWEVER, THIS EXPIRATION CLAUSE DOES NOT APPLY TO THE SCHOOL OR THE SUMMER CAMP THAT WAS AUTHORIZED BACK IN 2009, UM, AS THERE WAS NO, UM, LIMIT PUT ON THOSE WHEN THEY WERE APPROVED.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE IN ATTENDANCE.
THANK YOU, MS. SHERRY, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? NO.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, I WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.
THEY SHOULD ONLY BE ADDRESSED TO THE TOPIC OF THIS HEARING.
SEEING NO CITIZENS, UM, WISHING TO SPEAK, I WILL CLOSE THE HEARING.
ANY FOLLOW UP COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I ASSUME NO.
I, I JUST DO, I DID HAVE JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION.
ON, UM, CONDITION NUMBER 13 REGARDING THE UNIFORM SECURITY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M READING THAT CORRECTLY.
IT SAYS THAT ONE UNIFORM SECURITY OFFICER, UH, MUST BE PRESENT THROUGHOUT ANY EVENT, CHARGING ADMISSION.
SO, AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S WRITTEN THE WAY WE INTENDED.
SO IF I CHARGE ADMISSION, I HAVE 50 PEOPLE, I HAVE TO GET SOMEBODY.
IF I HAVE 149, I COULD HAVE MUSIC AND ALCOHOL.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE ATTENDING? SO, YES.
UH, SO ESSENTIALLY A, IT'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY.
IF YOU DO CHARGE ADMISSION, THEN YOU NEED TO HAVE THE, UM, THE OFFICER ON ENDPOINT.
BUT YES, B INCLUDES LIKE MUSIC, ALCOHOL, AND MORE THAN 150.
SO HAVE MUSIC, ALCOHOL, AND 149.
SEEING NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.
DO HAVE SECOND? SECOND, MR. LYLE.
MR. CARPENTER, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL CALL.
MR. WINFREY? YES, MR. CHRISTIE? YES.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO THE APPLICANT AND MS. SHERRY.
UM, OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS
[4. Countywide - ZOA-2023-00002 Application by Kerry Brian Hutcherson, Esq. requesting to amend County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-508 (Floor area ratio) to provide that the maximum floor area ratio (FAR) be determined on a per lot basis, or, where a proffered or conditioned master plan has been approved through zoning, the FAR determination would be based upon the area within such master plan whether or not such area includes a single or multiple lots]
ZERO APPLICATION ZOA DASH 2023 DASH TWO.THE APPLICATION BY CARRIE BRIAN HUTCHERSON, ESQUIRE REQUESTING TO AMEND COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15 DASH 5 0 8 RELATED TO FLOOR AREA RATIO TO PROVIDE THAT THE MAXIMUM FLOOR AREA RATIO FAR BE DETERMINED ON A PER LOT BASIS OR WHERE A PROFFERED OR CONDITION MASTER PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED THROUGH ZONING.
THE, THE FRA DETERMINATION WOULD BE BASED UPON THE AREA WITHIN SUCH MASTER PLAN, WHETHER OR NOT SUCH AREA INCLUDES A SINGLE OR MULTIPLE LOTS.
UH, MR. RAY CASH OF OUR, UM, PLANNING TEAM WILL PRESENT THE CASE.
UH, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR THE RECORD, I'M RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AS STATED, UH, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, UH, SPECIFICALLY TO SECTION 15 5 0 8 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE RELATED TO FAR PROVISIONS.
UH, IT IS AN APPLICANT, UM, PROPOSED CODE AMENDMENT THAT'S COME FOR YOU.
STAFF WILL PRESENT LITTLE INFORMATION ON THAT AND THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO HAVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE PROPOSAL.
SO FLO AIR RATIO, I KNOW, UM, CAME UP EARLIER IN YOUR AFTERNOON MEETING, UH, IS REALLY YOU DETERMINE, UH, IT'S HOW YOU THINK ABOUT DENSITY VOLUME ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY OR A PROJECT.
UM, UNDER OUR CURRENT DEFINITION, FLOOR RATIO IS REALLY DETERMINED BY DETERMINED BY BUYING THE GROSS FLARE AREA OF A STRUCTURE BY THE AREA OF LOT.
THE DEFINITION FURTHER DEFINES REALLY WHAT A GROSS GROSS FLOOR AREA IS, BUT TRULY THINK IT'S THE AREA OF IN BETWEEN THE WALLS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OR THE BUILDING.
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YOU TAKE THE GROSS FLOOR AREA IN SQUARE FOOTAGE AND YOU DIVIDE IT BY THE LOT AREA, UM, IN SQUARE FOOTAGE, AND THAT'S HOW YOU GET THE FAR.SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE THAT REALLY COMES SPECIFICALLY OUT OF OUR ORDINANCE.
WE HAVE THE DIAGRAM AND FIGURE AND THE ORDINANCE, UM, THAT SHOWS IF YOU HAVE, BASICALLY YOU HAVE, THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED THE LOT THAT'S IN GREEN.
THE BUILDING WOULD BE THE, UH, THE WHITE OR GRAY AREA IN THERE.
IF YOU HAD A PROPOSAL FOR A BUILDING'S 26,136 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA, AND THEN YOU HAD A ONE AND A HALF ACRE LOT OR 65,340 SQUARE FEET, YOU'D BASICALLY TAKE THE, UH, BUILDING SIZE.
YOU DIVIDE IT BY THE LOT AREA.
IF YOU HAD A STU UH, TWO STORY BUILDING THAT BASICALLY YOU COMPRESS THE SIZE, SO YOU PROVIDE THE SAME VOLUME IN TWO STORY, IT'S STILL EQUALS THE FAR OF 0.4.
SO IN GLIN, WE DO HAVE A FLUOR AIR RATIO PROVISION, A MAXIMUM FLUOR AIR PROVISION, UM, IN OUR BN B ONE, B THREE, M1, AND M TWO DISTRICTS.
UM, IT'S ALSO IN OUR MPUD AND RPU DISTRICTS, UM, RELATED TO COMMERCIAL USES ONLY.
NOW OF COURSE, THESE DISTRICTS HERE, THE BN, UH, B ONE, B THREE, M1, M TWO ARE COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
IF YOU NOTE, THEY DO HAVE DIFFERENT FAR PROVISIONS WITHIN THE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS.
SO FLORIA RATIO IS REALLY A REGULATORY TOOL, UM, A STANDALONE TOOL.
IT REALLY CAN RESTRICT OR ENCOURAGE DENSITY ON THE PROPERTY.
AND IT'S REALLY WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT SCENARIOS, HOW YOU ADDRESS IT IN YOUR OTHER REGULATIONS OR PROVISIONS.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, THERE WOULD BE PROVISIONS IN OUR ORDINANCE FOR A MAXIMUM OTHER ORDINANCES, OTHER LOCALITIES TO PROVIDE IT FOR A MINIMUM, UH, FAR OF TWO.
UM, AND NO OTHER REG REGULATIONS SUCH AS SETBACKS COULD LEAD TO WHAT WE TALK ABOUT AS DESIGN AREA IN RED.
IF YOU NOTICE THAT THE BUILDING REALLY GOES TO THE EDGES OF WHAT WE WOULD PERCEIVE BY THIS IMAGE TO BE THE LOT, UM, HAVE AN FAR OF TWO.
SIMILARLY WITH OPEN SPACE, FRONT SETBACK, PARKING OR OTHER TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS CAN LEAD TO THE BLUE, WHERE BASICALLY THEY'VE TAKEN THE SAME VOLUME AND STACKED IT UP HIGHER.
SO IN GLAND, UM, IN ADDITION TO FLO AIR RATIO, WE HAVE OTHER REGULATORY TOOLS.
SO IT'S NOT A STANDALONE TOOL.
IT IS, UM, PART OF THE OVERALL PROVISIONS THAT WE HAVE.
UM, WE HAVE RECOGNIZED THERE'S SOME CONCERNS RELATED TO FAR, BUT GENERALLY FROM MY FANCY DIAGRAM OF PROVIDED UP HERE, UM, IT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE BUILDING.
UM, YOU WOULD BASICALLY, AH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO THIS WOULD BE THE PERCEIVED LOT.
THE BUILDING OF COURSE IN GRAY, UM, WE HAVE SETBACKS IN OUR ORDINANCES.
SO THOSE ARE DEMONSTRATED REALLY WITH THE RED ARROWS.
WE HAVE SIDE SETBACKS, REAR SETBACKS, FRONT SETBACKS, UM, RELATED TO THINGS.
UH, WE ALSO, MOST OFTEN WHEN WE HAVE COMMERCIAL, ESPECIALLY ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, WE WOULD HAVE, UH, BUFFERS.
UM, WE OFTEN HAVE BUFFERS ALONG ROADWAYS AS WELL.
SO THE ONSITE PARKING THAT'S PROVIDED THAT IS IN YELLOW, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE LARGER THAT A SPACE GROWS OR A BUILDING, THE MORE PARKING THAT'S PROVIDED.
THAT'S WHERE OUR ORDINANCE IS REALLY SET UP TO HANDLE.
UM, THERE ARE BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITATIONS IN ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS AS WELL.
EACH DISTRICT HAS THE HEIGHT LIMIT.
SOME DISTRICTS ALLOW INCREASE OF HEIGHT WITH, UM, GREATER SETBACKS.
AND IT SPECIFICALLY IN OUR INDUSTRIAL ORDINANCES, UM, THAT ALSO FURTHER RESTRICTS WHEN COMPRESS IN THE AREA, UM, MAKING THE BUILDING, UH, GO HIGHER.
YOU NEED ADDITIONAL SETBACKS THAT FURTHER RESTRICTS THE BUILDABLE AREA ON THE LOT.
SO WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF FLOOR AREA RATIO? SO IT'S REALLY USED TYPICALLY IN SPECIAL DISTRICTS OR AREAS WHERE YOU ANTICIPATE AND TO REGULATE AND IN SOME INSTANCE ENCOURAGE THE BULK OF DEVELOPABLE DENSITY ON A PROPERTY.
IT'S COMMONLY USED IN FORM-BASED CODES, INCENTIVE PERFORMANCE AREAS, A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT CODES.
AND USUALLY IT'S IN AREAS WHERE YOU INTEND FOR HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT TO BE PRESENT.
SO A MAXIMUM FAR LIMITS THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY BE PROVIDED ON A SITE OR WITHIN A PROJECT.
SO THAT CAN RESTRICT THE DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENTS, TAX BASE INCREASES OR TYPES OF BUSINESSES OR INDUSTRIES.
UM, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION CAME FORWARD TODAY MS. WORLDLY SPOKE ABOUT.
BUT A MINIMUM FAR INSTEAD WOULD DIRECT INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, PRIVATE INVESTMENT, AND CONCENTRATES GROWTH IN PLANNED AREAS.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROVISION IN GOLAND.
UM, BUT WE HAVE OTHER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT ARE DONATING CONDITIONS ON INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS THAT WE GO FORWARD, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT'S COMING FORWARD WITH THIS REQUEST TONIGHT.
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SO ORIGINALLY THERE WAS A PROPOSAL THAT CAME FORWARD FROM THE APPLICANT, UM, WITH THE DISCUSSION OF STAFF ABOUT REMOVING THE ZONING DISTRICTS, UM, REMOVING THE FAR FROM THOSE LISTED ZONING DISTRICTS.UM, THAT WAS HELD A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, FOLLOWING PUBLIC HEARING.
THE APPLICANT, UH, REQUESTED TO DEFER TO ITEM TILL APRIL THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOT ACT OTHER THAN TO VOTE FOR A DEFERRAL ON THE ITEM.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD, UM, ON APRIL 1ST ABOUT THE NEW PROPOSAL, THE ONE THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
UM, THERE WERE 15 CITIZENS AND ATTENDANCE AS WELL AS, UH, MR. LAU, MR. WINFREY, MR. PATAK, AND MR. KIMBERLY.
UM, THEIR COMMENTS WERE REALLY, UM, FOCUSED ON SPECIFICALLY IMPACT THE CHANGE ON THE EXTRA ATTIC PROJECT FOR WHICH MR. RICHARDSON IS THE REPRESENTATIVE.
AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT PROJECT SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO FAR, UM, IMPACT ON RURAL CHARACTER.
UM, CONCERN THAT THE CHANGE IS REALLY A DEVELOPER DRIVEN CHANGE, NOT FOR ECONOMIC DIFFERENT, UH, DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.
UM, HOW THIS WOULD BE ENFORCED, FOR INSTANCE, IF IT IS BASED UPON A PROJECT BASIS AS WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW WOULD STAFF BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT.
SO THE CURRENT PROPOSAL THAT CAN, THAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU TONIGHT TO AMEND THE DEFINITION OF FLU AIR RATIO.
THIS WAS PREVENTED PRESENTED AT THE APRIL 18TH PC HEARING.
TWO CITIZENS SPOKE DURING THE HEARING, UM, MEANT GENERALLY I WOULD SAY THEY EXPRESSED NEUTRAL POSITIONS REGARDING, UM, THIS, UH, PROPOSAL PLANNING COMMISSION DID FORWARD EVENT RECOMMENDATION OF FIVE OF APPROVAL BY A FIVE ZERO VOTE TO THE BOARD.
SO ALL THIS TALK AND EVERYTHING COMES, I'M ASKING TO ADD A COUPLE SENTENCES TO THE FLORA RATIO LANGUAGE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE.
SO SPECIFICALLY, AGAIN, CURRENTLY THE LANGUAGE SAYS THAT FAR THE FLOOR RATIO IS DETERMINED BY DIVIDING THE GROSS FLOW AREA OF A STRUCTURE BY THE AREA OF A LOT.
SO THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF A RECORDED LOT.
WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE IS THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER AN FAR FOR A PROPERTY WITH A PROJECT THAT IS A SUB, A PROFFERED OR CONDITIONED MASTER PLAN OR CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT'S REALLY BEEN REVIEWED AND SEEN BY STAFF PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD, UM, THAT THE FLOOR AREA RATIO BE DETERMINED BY DEFINING THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF ALL STRUCTURES WITHIN THE PROJECT BY THE AREA OF LAND ENCOMPASS WITHIN THAT PROJECT.
SO WHEN WE'RE SAYING PROJECT, WE MEAN TO INCLUDE ALL PROPERTY WITHIN THE CONCEPTUAL OR MASTER PLAN.
SO REALLY IT'S THE AREAS THAT WE CONSIDERED DURING THE ZONING.
THE FER WOULD BE CONSIDERED BASED UPON THAT AREA.
NOT JUST A LOT, BUT OFTEN YOU COULD CONSIDER NO MATTER HOW IT'S SUBDIVIDED FURTHER.
SO AGAIN, THE CALCULATIONS ARE AGAIN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN.
WE SUBSTITUTE GENERALLY LOT AREA FOR PROJECT AREA AS AN OPTION.
SO THIS IS, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE EXTRA PROJECT THAT'S LOCATED OVER IN GENERALLY, UM, OUT THE AREA OF PARKSIDE VILLAGE.
UM, THIS AREA WAS APPROVED THROUGH ZONING AND AS A MASTER PLAN COMMUNITY, UM, THAT SHOWS THIS.
CURRENTLY IT IS ONE ZONING LOT, ONE RECORDED LOT.
THE CONCEPT PLAN GENERALLY SHOWED OUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL USES AS PROPOSED.
AND THE PLAN COMES OUT WITH A FAR ROAD 0.399, WHICH IS UNDER THE 0.4.
SO AGAIN, WE CALCULATE THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE PROPOSED WITHIN THERE, WE CALCULATE THE LOT AREA, UM, DO THE, UH, THE MATH THAT I COULDN'T DO IN AHEAD.
AND IT COMES OUT TO 0.399 FAR.
SO PART OF THE DISCUSSION WITH THIS APPLICANT, HE IS COME FORWARD TO PROPOSE THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT IS THAT WELL, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE OWNER AND I'LL LET THEM SHARE THAT, BUT POTENTIALLY THE NEED TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY, WELL, AGAIN, BASED UPON CURRENT DEFINITION OF THE ORDINANCE, THAT WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE BECAUSE IF YOU SEE GENERALLY HERE SAME BUILDINGS, SAME UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BUILDINGS, GENERALLY SAME LAYOUT, WHICH THEY WOULD BE STILL NEED TO CONFORM WITH, UM, IT JUST WOULDN'T WORK IN THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
THE STORAGE USE WOULD, WOULD EXCEED THE FAR, UM, THE OFFICE USE AND RETAIL USE WOULD WAY WE BE WAY BELOW OUR STANDARD FAR.
HOWEVER, IF WE GO WITH WHAT THE ORDINANCE PROPOSED TONIGHT, WE CONSIDER IT AS A PROJECT.
WE GENERALLY THINK ABOUT STILL THIS IS AN AREA THAT'S CONTAINED WITHIN A PROJECT BOUND.
THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO CONFORM WITH ANY PROFFERS OR ZONING CONDITIONS, I MEAN, OR CONDITIONS IMPOSED UPON THIS PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE FAR ON THE OVERALL BASIS OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AND SO THAT WOULD BE TRUE NO MATTER HOW IT'S SUBDIVIDED, GIVES A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY FOR A DEVELOPER, GIVES A LITTLE FLEXIBILITY THROUGH US IN DESIGN.
UM, GOING FORWARD, THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING IF THIS, THIS ORDINANCE IS PASSED, THAT'S
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SOMETHING STAFF WOULD CONSIDER DURING EVALUATION AND SHARE WITH THE BOARD OF A CASE.IT WOULD ALSO BE SOMETHING OVER TIME THAT STAFF WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ENFORCING AS BUILDING PERMITS CAME IN AS LOTS ARE SUBDIVIDED TO MAKE SURE THE OVERALL ZONING CONDITIONS ARE MET.
UM, AGAIN, PROJECT CALCULATIONS, SAME AREA, EVEN THOUGH IT'S SUBDIVIDED SAME AMOUNT OF STRUCTURES, MAGICALLY THE FAR COMES OUT TO BE EQUAL TO THE SAME.
UM, SO THAT'S REALLY A SUMMATION OF THAT.
UH, STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND ALSO NOTE THAT, UM, CARRIE HUTCHERSON IS HERE WITH THE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? I I DO HAVE ONE MR. CASH, JUST SO WE HAVE, UM, NO DOUBT, UM,
WE WOULD TAKE IT OVER THE EDGE, CORRECT.
SO WE WOULD, WE'D HAVE TO, THAT'S PART OF THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD COME FORWARD.
WE'D HAVE TO SEE WHAT SQUARE FOOTAGE EXISTS ON THE PROPERTY.
ANY NEW PROPOSAL WOULD HAVE TO CONFORM TO THE ZONING.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THAT? OKAY.
DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO ADDRESS THE BOARD? I'M SORRY, KAREN.
YOU DEFINITELY HAVE TO DO IT BECAUSE I DUNNO WHAT I'M DOING.
AND MR. HUTCHERSON, JUST FOR IDENTIFICATION'S SAKE, IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS WHEN YOU SPEAK.
I'M KERRY HUTCHERSON, THE APPLICANT.
UH, MY ADDRESS IS 1 3 3 8 3 FARRINGTON ROAD, ASHLAND, VIRGINIA.
UM, SO MR. CASH HAS GIVEN A GREAT PRESENTATION.
I DON'T KNOW THAT I REALLY NEED TO AUGMENT TOO MUCH OF IT, BUT I DID WANNA MAKE A COUPLE OF POINTS THAT I THINK ARE REALLY KIND OF THE KEY POINTS HERE.
ONE, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY IS SOMETHING THAT'S RETAINING THE FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENT AS A LAND USE PLANNING TOOL FOR THIS COUNTY.
UH, SO WE'RE NOT GETTING RID OF IT, WHICH WAS A BIG CONCERN THAT SOME CITIZENS HAD THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.
UM, INSTEAD WE WERE PROVIDING SOME EXTRA FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THAT TOOL.
AND THE KEY WITH THAT EXTRA FLEXIBILITY IS THE LINKAGE TO A PROFFERED OR CONDITIONED MASTER CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
AND THAT'D BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VETTED THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS.
THE COMMUNITY WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, STAFF WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TO WORK THROUGH THE SPECIFICS OF THAT CONCEPT OR MASTER PLAN AND WHAT, UH, IS CONSIDERED TO BE, IF IT'S APPROVED BY THE BOARD, I WOULD HOPE IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED TO BE A, A DECENT COMPROMISE OF ALL INTERESTS INVOLVED.
SO THE IDEA HERE WAS TO TRY TO HELP THIS BE SOMETHING, UH, TECHNIQUE THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME ALLOW FOR SOME CERTAINTY FOR, UH, FOLKS SO THEY WOULD HAVE A CLEAR CONCEPT OF WHAT COULD BE BUILT ON A PROPERTY.
ONE OF THE KEY CITIZEN CONCERNS THAT I HEARD OVER AND OVER WAS A CONCERN ABOUT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OR MAYBE NOT KNOWING WHAT MIGHT BE BUILT.
THERE WERE A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WERE CONCERNED THAT IF WE CHANGE FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS, THAT THAT MIGHT RESULT IN.
I HEARD THE PHRASE, WELL, ANYTHING COULD BE BUILT THERE NOW.
WELL, THAT'S NOT THE CASE BECAUSE AS MR. CASH POINTED OUT, NUMBER ONE, YOUR ORDINANCE ALREADY HAS LOTS OF DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS IN ADDITION TO FLOOR AREA RATIO, HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, SETBACK RESTRICTIONS, BUFFER RESTRICTIONS, PARKING RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE GOING TO NECESSARILY DICTATE WHAT CAN BE BUILT ON A SITE.
AND WITH THIS CONCEPT OR MASTER PLAN REQUIREMENT, UM, THAT'S LINKED TO THE WAY THAT FLOOR AREA RATIO COULD BE APPLIED TO A PROJECT THAT'S DEFINED BY THAT CONCEPT OR MASTER PLAN, YOU'D HAVE FURTHER ASSURANCES AS TO THE CERTAINTY OF WHAT COULD BE BUILT THERE.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE FOCUS, THOSE TWO THINGS.
AND I DID WANT TO JUST SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE, THE PROBLEM WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE WITH THIS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MAYBE NEEDS TO BE HEARD AGAIN.
UH, IN MANY OF THE LOCALITIES WHERE I DO ZONING CASES AND DEVELOPMENT WORK, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES,
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IT IS REALLY HELPFUL FOR THE DEVELOPER OR THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF BEING ABLE TO DIVIDE PORTIONS OF A PROPERTY AT SOME LATER DATE AND SELL THOSE PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY TO OTHER END USERS.THIS IS BECAUSE TYPICALLY WITH COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPER WILL START OFF WITH ONE MAIN SORT OF ANCHOR END USER IN MIND.
AND A LOT OF TIMES THAT ANCHOR USER TAKES UP A LOT OF WHAT WOULD BE THE FLOOR AREA RATIO.
UH, BUT THEY PROPERTY STILL HAS SOME USABLE SPACE THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO THEN FULLY DEVELOP AND UTILIZE.
OFTENTIMES THOSE END USERS FOR THOSE OTHER PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY ARE, WELL, THEY'RE A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE NATIONAL CHAINS THAT HAVE A PRACTICE OF OWNING THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
THEY DON'T WANT TO LEASE THE PROPERTY, SO THEY NEED A SUBDIVIDED LOT IN ORDER TO PURCHASE THEIR OWN LAND RATHER THAN HAVE IT REMAIN PART OF A SINGLE LOT AND BE A LEASED PREMISES WITHIN THAT LOT.
THAT'S REALLY THE MOST COMMON SCENARIO THAT COMES UP THAT REQUIRES THIS LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY.
AND IT'S TIED IN A LOT OF TIMES WITH COMMERCIAL LENDERS.
THEY ALSO WANT A DEFINED LOT TO BE ABLE TO USE AS THEIR COLLATERAL FOR THE LOAN.
IT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE WITH THE WAY THAT COMMERCIAL LENDING WORKS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TAKE A, A LOAN AND, AND USE COLLATERAL FOR A PREMISES.
THAT'S A PORTION OF A SUBDIVIDED LOT.
SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE REASONS FOR ALL OF THIS.
UH, IT'S TAKEN A WHILE TO GET HERE BECAUSE WE HAD TO DO A LOT OF EDUCATION ALONG THE WAY, WHICH I THINK HAS BEEN ACTUALLY VERY BENEFICIAL TO THE PROCESS AND IT HAS GIVEN US ALL AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS ISSUE CLOSELY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DOING SOMETHING THAT WE'LL REGRET LATER AND THAT WE'LL SAY, WELL, THIS IS AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE.
I THINK WE'VE REALLY ADDRESSED ALL OF THAT NOW AND, UH, I THINK WE, I WAS JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THESE SLIDES, BUT I THINK MR. CASH ALREADY WENT THROUGH THEM PRETTY WELL, BUT I'M JUST GONNA LEAVE THEM UP IN CASE THEIR QUESTIONS 'CAUSE THESE VISUAL AIDS ARE PRETTY USEFUL.
SO IF YOU DO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM OR JUST WAIT FOR CITIZENS IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, QUESTIONS.
OKAY, THANK YOU ROGER, STAY CLOSE IN CASE.
UM, I'LL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS AND PLEASE REMEMBER TO GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS WHEN YOU SPEAK.
I LIVE AT 7 1 8 5 YEAR STREET.
MY PROPERTY BACKS UP TO THAT PROJECT.
OKAY, SO I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN.
I READ THE FAR PROPOSED AMENDMENT REQUIREMENTS, UM, OVER AND OVER AGAIN TODAY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT JUST WHAT ARE WE GETTING TO.
UM, AND I DON'T SEE MUCH, I SEE A LOT OF WORDS, BUT NOT MUCH ME.
UM, IT'S REALLY A FLEXIBLE DOCUMENT OR PARAGRAPH.
UM, I KNOW THAT THEY, AFTER THEY GOT THE APPROVAL TO PUT THE BUILDINGS AS THEY WERE DRAWN UP, THEN THEY DECIDED MAYBE WE SHOULD SUBDIVIDE BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO OVER THE FAR SOMETHING THEY SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT OF, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M NOT FOR THIS AMENDMENT, UM, TO THE CODE, BUT NOW, YOU KNOW.
I AM STELLA CLARY AND MY ADDRESS IS 7 2 3 4 SHEFIELD AVENUE.
AND I'M ALSO BACKING UP TO THAT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ARE HOMES RESIDENTIAL.
ALL OF US ARE 55 AND OVER COMMUNITY.
WE REALLY NEED A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER FROM ALL OF THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT'S HAPPENING.
I I AM AGAINST THIS AMENDMENT.
IT'S BEEN APPROVED ON APRIL 18 AFTER SO MANY MEETINGS, I THINK YOU SHOULD STAY WITH IT AS FAR AS TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THESE BUSINESSES TO MAKE IT MORE PROFITABLE FOR THEIR LOANS OR WHATEVER IT IS.
I'M SORRY, BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, THERE ARE 220
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HOMES, 55 AND OVER IN THIS PARCEL THAT'S BACKING UP TO IT.WE HAVE TO STICK WITH THE FAR THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED IN THE WAY IT WAS APPROVED.
WE CANNOT HAVE SO MUCH CONGESTION, IT'S JUST GONNA GO OUT OF CONTROL.
PLEASE THINK ABOUT US WHO ARE GONNA LIVE WITH ALL OF THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO APPROVE.
LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD, MANNEQUIN SABBATH.
I YIELD MY TIME TO MR. WILLIAMSON.
LIVE AT 2 2 6 2 WHEATLAND DRIVE, MANNEQUIN SABOT IN DISTRICT FOUR.
I'M JUST GONNA START WITH, UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS, UH, CHANGE TO THE MEASUREMENTS ORDINANCE AS FAR AS FAR IS CONCERNED ONLY FOR THE REASON THAT THIS PROJECT IS ALREADY APPROVED.
THAT BATTLE HAS BEEN ALREADY BEEN WAGED WHETHER TO STOP IT OR NOT.
SO WE FIND OURSELVES IN, IN THIS POSITION WHERE WE NEEDED CLARIFICATION IN FAR 'CAUSE FAR IS A USEFUL TOOL AND IN THIS CASE, THE CHANGE IS NOT COMPLICATED.
AND THE SHOWING THE DIFFERENT SIZE BUILDINGS AND IF YOU INCREASE THE DENSITY OR INCREASE THE FAR YOU HAVE TO SHRINK, THE SIZE OF THAT DOESN'T EVEN APPLY WITH THIS, THIS CASE TONIGHT.
WHAT IT IS, EXCUSE ME, IS THAT FAR ON A PER LOT BASIS IS, IS A MAXIMUM.
AND, AND THAT'S A USEFUL TOOL WHEN YOU WANT TO CONTROL GROWTH AND MAINTAIN RURAL CHARACTER.
WHAT IT DOES DO, IT ADDS A PROVISION FOR A PROJECT LEVEL FOR APPLICATION.
IT MAKES IT A PER PROJECT PER LOT AVERAGE.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE WITH THE EXTRA ATTIC.
THE PROJECT IS 0.399 ON A 0.4.
SO TO KEEP A 0.4 AVERAGE, THE OTHER LOTS HAVE TO BE BELOW 0.4 TO MAINTAIN THE AVERAGE OF THE OVERALL PROJECT.
AND IN THIS CASE IT'S 0.08 FOR THE OFFICE AND 0.15 FOR THE RETAIL.
SO THAT KEEPS THE AVERAGE OF THE PROJECT 0.4.
THAT'S A PROTECTION FOR THE COMMUNITY.
OKAY? SO THAT'S WHY THIS CHANGE IS GOOD.
UH, IN A SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES, THE ARGUMENT IN FAVOR OF MAKING THIS, UH, MEASUREMENTS CHANGE, UH, IS ALSO AN ARGUMENT AGAINST ELIMINATING FAR FROM, UH, THE COMMERCIAL ORDINANCES.
AND YOU HAD A CONSENT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN EARLIER FOR THAT.
AND A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE PRESENTED TODAY, UH, WERE ARGUMENTS IN FAVOR OF ELIMINATING THAT FROM ALL THE FARS.
WHAT I WILL TELL YOU AS FAR AS NEEDED, BECAUSE ALL, ALL THE STATEMENTS ABOUT SETBACKS AND BUFFERS, WHAT WASN'T SAID IS SETBACKS FOR COMMERCIAL ARE TYPICALLY 30 FEET ON A 20 ACRE OR 30 ACRE OR LARGER, 30 FEET BUFFER.
THAT'S A LOT ON THE SIDE AND ON THE BACK.
WELL, IF IT'S ADJACENT TO ANOTHER COMMERCIAL, THAT REDUCES THE 10.
SO YOU'VE LOST 66% OF YOUR SETBACKS WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE IN A, AN INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL AREA.
SO THE FACT THAT, UH, YOU HAVE SETBACKS IS, IS NOT AN ARGUMENT THAT THAT'S A PROTECTION AGAINST HIGHER DENSITY.
AND YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THE HIGHER DENSITY, UH, AS FAR AS FAR IS YOU HAVE MINIMUMS TO DRIVE HIGH DENSITY AS, AS WAS MENTIONED BECAUSE YOU WANT A CITY BLOCK AND YOU WANT A HIGH RISE.
YOU GOT, YOU GOTTA FORCE 'EM TO, TO GO UP EXTRA FLOORS.
AND THE MAXIMUMS HELP PRESERVE RURAL CHARACTER BY HAVING THE, UH, UH, PROJECT, SMALLER BUILDINGS, MORE OPEN SPACE.
AND IT, AND IT'S, AND IT'S GOT MORE, UH, INTERIOR DENSITY.
THE REASON FOR THAT IS BUSINESS WORKERS, AS YOUR FIRE GOES UP, YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE WORKING, WHICH ARE CHALLENGES TO RESCUE AND FIRE AND POLICE.
THE MORE FLOORS YOU HAVE IN BUILDINGS, THE MORE MACHINES YOU HAVE THAT COULD CATCH FIRE.
SO THAT IS ALL, THAT IS ALL PART OF WHY YOU HAVE FAR AS A TOOL.
OKAY? WHAT WAS ALSO MENTIONED IS THAT WE HAVE HEIGHTS.
B ONE IS 35 FEET, BUT B THREE IS A HUNDRED FEET.
M1 AND M TWO IS 80 FEET WITH FIRE PROTECTION.
SO WE'RE TALKING BIG BUILDINGS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE FAR, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE, THE LIMITATION FAR PROVIDES, THEN THE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA TEND TO BE LARGER.
SO, SO THE REASON FOR NOT GETTING RID OF FAR IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
SO DON'T THROW THE TOOL AWAY, KEEP THE TOOL BECAUSE ONE DAY WE'RE GONNA NEED IT.
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THANK YOU MR. WILLIAMSON.ANY MORE CITIZENS? IF NOT, I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DOES THE APPLICATION, UH, DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING BROUGHT UP? I DID JUST WANNA SAY IN A RESPONSE TO THE FIRST TWO CITIZENS WHO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THIS SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT IN RELATION TO THE PROPOSED FAR AMENDMENT, THIS CONCEPT PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED AS PART OF THE REZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS WHAT IS LEGALLY PERMITTED TO BE BUILT TODAY.
THE ONLY THING THAT THIS PROPOSED FAR AMENDMENT WOULD CHANGE IS ALLOW FOR THESE SUBDIVIDED LOT LINES TO BE CREATED.
THE BUILDINGS HAVE TO GO WHERE THOSE BUILDINGS ARE SHOWN, PARKING AREAS THEY HAVE TO GO WHERE THEY'RE SHOWN SETBACKS, BMP, ALL THAT STUFF HAS TO GO WHERE THIS CONCEPT PLAN DICTATES.
SO THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THESE RED LINES.
THAT'S WHAT THIS AMENDMENT'S ALLOWING US TO DO.
ANY FOLLOW UP COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MR. LYLE, I'M SORRY.
UH, I I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR IN MY MIND THAT REALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE CHANGING FROM MEASURING BY FEET TO METERS.
I MEAN, WE'RE STILL MEASURING THE SAME PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE'RE JUST USING TWO DIFFERENT MEANS OF MEASURING IT.
AND, AND SO AS WAS POINTED OUT, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE SIZE OF THESE BUILDINGS.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE SETBACKS ON THESE BUILDINGS.
WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE BUFFERS.
EVERYTHING THAT WAS APPROVED IS GONNA STAY THE SAME.
WHAT THIS IS, IS A UNIQUE ANSWER TO A UNIQUE SITUATION.
AND, AND, AND SO, UM, I I, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THAT AND THE STAFF, IF I'M SAYING SOMETHING WRONG OR I'M MISPERCEIVING SOMETHING, PLEASE CORRECT ME.
BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, THAT WE'RE SIMPLY MEASURING THIS DIFFERENTLY.
UM, AND, AND, UM, ALL OF THE PROTECTIONS THAT WENT THROUGH ALL OF THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE STILL IN PLACE.
NOBODY IS GONNA SEE A DIMINISHED BUFFER OR A DIMINISHED SETBACK OR A, ANY KIND OF INCREASE IN BUILDING SIDE.
WE'RE JUST MEASURING IT DIFFERENTLY.
SO I, I WANNA MAKE SURE I, I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT PROPERLY.
'CAUSE THAT'S HOW I'M GONNA PROCEED.
OKAY, MR. SAUER, UM, JUST TWO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, MR. CASH.
UM, A COMMENT WAS MADE DURING CITIZEN COMMENT ABOUT CONGESTION BY APPROVING THIS PROFFER OR APPROVING THIS AMENDMENT, CODE AMENDMENT.
HOW WOULD THIS, IN YOUR OPINION, CHANGE CONGESTION? UM, THIS AMENDMENT HERE, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THERE THAT CHANGES ANY, UM, CONSIDERATIONS IN CON OF CONGESTION.
FR STILL APPLIES TO THE PROPERTY ITSELF THAT WAS ZONED ORIGINALLY.
SO THIS ONE'S GONNA BE HARDER.
SO I GIVE YOU THE EASY ONE FOR OR NOT BE MATH TO GET YOU.
OKAY,
BUT THIS GOES THROUGH AND WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS NOW THESE WILL BE INDIVIDUAL, LOTS OF PEOPLE CAN PURCHASE.
AND WHEN YOU'RE BUILDING IT, THAT'S FINE 'CAUSE IT'S UNDER ONE PROJECT.
BUT SAY SOMEBODY ELSE COMES ALONG AND DECIDES, WELL I DON'T I LIKE THIS, BUT I'M GONNA KNOCK THIS BUILDING DOWN AND I GOTTA BUILD SOMETHING ELSE.
HOW DO, HOW WOULD OUR DECISION TONIGHT IMPACT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AF YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN? UM, RIGHT.
SO FOR THIS, WE'RE GOING TO, THE WAY WE DEFINED IT, 'CAUSE REALLY WE DIDN'T HAVE A DEFINITION FOR PROJECT AND PEOPLE, WELL, AS YOU SAY, PEOPLE COULD HAVE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OF WHAT THEIR PROJECT IS FOR THIS WE'RE REALLY DEFINING, AND THIS IS THE CORRECT ONE, RIGHT? UM, SINCE IT'S, UH, YOUR PRESENTATION, SORRY ABOUT THAT.
UM, THE PROJECT ITSELF IS AREAS THAT'S WITHIN THAT.
NOW PEOPLE COULD CONSIDER, WELL I'VE, LET'S SAY IN THE INSTANCE OF, UM, OF THIS PROPERTY, UM, IGNORE THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU HAVE A SIMILAR PROPERTY AND SOMETIMES THERE MAY BE A SMALL STRIP CENTER OF COLLECTION OF THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT USES ON ONE LOT OF THE, UM, OF THE ORIGINAL GREATER PROJECT, YOU KNOW, BUT FOR THE PURPOSES.
AND SO PEOPLE MAY ARGUE, WELL, THAT'S A PROJECT INSTEAD FOR US, THE WAY WE'RE GIVEN THE FLEXIBILITY AND TERMINATION, IF R WE'RE GONNA MAKE THE PROJECT BASED UPON THAT MASTER PLAN AND, UH, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, NO MATTER HOW IT'S LATER SUB TO BATTERY CONFIGURED.
UM, PART OF THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ORIGINALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF IT'S 0.4 ON THAT ENTIRE ACREAGE NO MATTER
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WHAT YOU DO LATER.UM, PART OF THAT ALSO, UM, GIVES US A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO ENFORCEMENT TO DO THAT.
SO LET ME ASK YOU, YOU TO PAUSE THERE.
SO HOW, HOW DO WE ENFORCE THAT LATER? SO SOME, I, I CAN IMAGINE, I CAN IMAGINE A SITUATION MAYBE WHERE SOMEBODY WANTS TO MOVE INTO AN INDUSTRIAL PARK.
AND THERE WERE CONDITIONS FOR THAT, FOR THAT.
UM, WITH THIS, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE TELL SOMEBODY A FUTURE, THE THIRD BUYER FROM NOW THAT IT FALLS UNDER THESE GUIDELINES? UH, RIGHT.
SO THAT WOULD BE FOR US IS, YOU KNOW, WE TAKE THAT PROCEED, THAT MASTER PLAN AS IT IS, WE WOULD EVALUATE EACH OF THE, UM, BUILDINGS THAT ARE ALREADY ON THE PROJECT.
UM, IT WOULD BE SOMETHING JUST LIKE OTHER THINGS THAT'S IN OUR ORDINANCE, IT'S IN OUR CODES.
SO, UM, WE WOULD HOPE THAT SOMEONE ON THEIR DUE DILIGENCE WOULD, WOULD SEE WHAT'S THEIR AVAILABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THAT PROJECT.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THEN THE MASTER PLAN WOULD ALWAYS BE IN PLACE REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY TIMES IT SWITCHED OWNERSHIP.
AND TORE, IF I MAY, JUST TO FURTHER, SO IF, IF THIS PROJECT HAS GOT FIVE SUB COMPONENTS AND THEY ALL ADD UP TO 0.4 MM-HMM.
AND I THINK PART OF THIS IS THAT IT PUTS THE ONUS ON THE DEVELOPER OF A PRO OF A PROJECT, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT HE'S ACCOMMODATING AND, UH, HELPS SUBDIVIDE OR DIVIV THESE OUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT HE HAS EQUAL, UH, OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL USERS OR, UM, UH, PROPERTY VALUES OR GOOD INVESTMENTS WITHIN HIS SITE.
HOWEVER, IF THEY, HE EVER DOES IT IN ONE AREA AND THEY'VE LEFT A BLANK LOT, THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BODY FOR CHANGES AND STAFF WOULD CONSIDER ALL OF THAT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UH, MR. CASH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'VE BEEN MAKING ALL MY MOTION
DISTRICT FOUR I, I'M TRY AND AVOID, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO MAKE IT.
OH, LET ME FIND MY WHAT? OKAY.
SINCE IT'S DISTRICT FOUR, UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ZOA DASH 2023 DASH TWO REGARDING FAR FLOOR AREA RATIO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CARPENTER.
UM, BEFORE WE ADJOURN, I WILL JUST POINT EVERYONE'S ATTENTION TO THE SECTION 17, THE INFORMATION ONLY SECTION.
WE'VE GOT A, UH, BUSY SUMMER AHEAD OF US AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF ITEMS THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED AT THE JULY MEETING.
NOT TO MENTION THE ITEM WE DEFERRED TO THE JULY MEETING RELATED TO THE SYDNEY AND SYDNEY DEVELOPMENT.
SO, UM, JUST TO MAKE ALL, UH, CITIZENS AWARE THAT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS COMING UP IN JULY, UM, WE WILL ADJOURN AS FOLLOWS TO THE TUESDAY, JULY 2ND, 2024 AFTERNOON BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TRANSPORTATION WORK SESSION HERE IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING CONFERENCE ROOM TWO 70.
THAT IS A MEETING THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND SECOND TO THE, UH, TUESDAY, JULY 2ND, 2024 AFTERNOON, REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING TIME, TBD AND THE 6:00 PM PUBLIC HEARINGS.