Jul 02, 2024 Board of Supervisors Regular Meeting 7-2-2024

HEY GUYS, UH, THANK YOU SHERIFF CHRISY AND MR. KLING AND PEEL AND YOUR ENTIRE TEAM.

WE APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, AND SHERIFF CHRISY, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT'S YOUR TEAM THAT MAKES YOU LOOK PRETTY, NOT YOU, .

I GOT IT.

YOU THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

TONIGHT WE HAVE ONE PROCLAMATION, UH, DESIGNATING JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, RECEIVING THE PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM WILL BE DIRECTOR TOM KOCH.

UM, YEAH, COME ON DOWN.

YES,

[V. Presentation of Proclamation Designating July as Parks and Recreation Month]

POSITIVELY TO GLAND'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY, AND WHERE OUR COUNTY'S PARTS AND NATURE AREAS PROVIDE A PLACE FOR INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS TO CONNECT WITH THE OUTDOORS.

LIN COUNTY'S PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES AND THE DEPARTMENT'S PERSONNEL ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHEREAS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT PROMOTES HEALTH AND WELLNESS, IMPROVING THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT FACILITATES AND PROMOTES TIME SPENT ENGAGED IN PHYSICAL ACTIVITY, WHICH POSITIVELY IMPACTS MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH.

AND WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT'S FACILITIES PROVIDE SPACE FOR A VARIETY OF SPORTS, WALKING TRAILS, MOUNTAIN BIKING TRAILS, DOG PARKS, SKATEBOARDING, DISC GOLF, PICKLEBALL, PLAYGROUNDS, CULTURAL AND ARTS PROGRAMS, BLACKSMITHING AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE ACTIVE AND ENGAGED LIFESTYLES.

AND WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT'S GROWING PROGRAMMING SUCH AS OUT OF SCHOOL TIME PROGRAMMING, YOUTH SPORTS AND ENRICHMENT OPPORTUNITIES SUPPORT CHILDHOOD DEVELOPMENT THROUGH INTERPERSONAL ENGAGEMENT AND TEAM PLAY.

AND WHEREAS THE DEPARTMENT'S WORK IN FACILITIES CONTRIBUTE

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AND WHEREAS GLAND COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION HAS PROVIDED SERVICES FOR OVER 5,000 PROGRAM REGISTRANTS AND OVER 400,000 VISITORS DURING FISCAL YEAR 2024.

AND WHEREAS THE US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES HAS DESIGNATED JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, AND WHEREAS GLAND COUNTY HAS FRAIL TO RECOGNIZE THE MANY BENEFITS DERIVED FROM THE WORK OF OUR DEPARTMENT STAFF AND FROM OUR COMMUNITIES, ACCESS TO THE FACILITIES OPERATED BY OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT JULY IS RECOGNIZED AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN GLAND COUNTY.

AND, UH, ALL PARTS OF GLAND COUNTY THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER.

APPRECIATE IT.

AWESOME.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION? SORRY, I MOVE THAT WE, THE BOARD APPROVED THE PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING JULY AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH SECOND.

DO A ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? AYE.

I PROMISE I WON'T NEED THE TIMER.

UH, LISA, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN AND THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD FOR YOUR UNANIMOUS SUPPORT IN DECLARING JULY'S PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.

YOUR RECREATION OR YOUR RECOGNITION UNDERSCORES THE IMPORTANCE OF PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS AND FOSTERING COMMUNITY WELLBEING, HEALTH AND HAPPINESS.

THIS DESIGNATION NOT ONLY CELEBRATES OUR BEAUTIFUL PARKS, BUT ALSO ENCOURAGES ALL RESIDENTS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE DIVERSE RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES WE OFFER.

WE ALL DEEPLY APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN GOLAND COUNTY.

AND I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK SIMILAR, UH, TO SHERIFF CREE, MY STAFF, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE HARD WORK THEY PUT IN, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SOMETIMES I, I FEEL JUST LIKE HIM AS, AS THE FACE OF THE DEPARTMENT, BUT TRUTHFULLY, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PULL OFF ALL THESE WONDERFUL PROGRAMS AND, AND SERVICES AND FACILITIES WITHOUT THEM.

AND ALL THE PARTNERSHIPS WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY, MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS, YOUTH, SENIORS, I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT WE COORDINATE WITH, UH, TO OFFER EVERYTHING WE DO.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UH, CONTINUED SUPPORT.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

AND, UH, FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THE PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM DOES, WE WILL NOW MOVE, OH, WHEN YOU GOT ALL DRESSED UP, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO CHAIR'S COMMENTS.

UM, I WILL KEEP THEM BRIEF.

UM, IT'S GREAT TO SEE SO MANY CITIZENS HERE FOR A SUMMER MEETING.

UM, AND WHILE IT IS THE SUMMER, OUR ACTIVITY IS, UH, I WOULD SAY THE FLOW OF ACTIVITY IS BRISK.

IT HAS BEEN, UH, IT IS A HEALTHY AGENDA AND WE HAVE A LOT GOING ON WITH OUR STAFF

[VI. Chair's Comments]

AND SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR INTEREST IN OUR, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AND PLEASE, UH, CONTINUE TO PROVIDE COMMENTARY, UM, ESPECIALLY AS WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, UH, INVOLVING CONSTRUCTION AND, UM, VARIOUS, UH, ROAD WORK AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UM, I KNOW IT'S THERE.

UH, THE, THE PROGRESS FOR THE FUTURE CAN SOMETIMES BE, UH, A LITTLE ANNOYING, BUT IT IS FOR THE RIGHT CAUSES.

AND I'LL PASS IT ON TO, UM, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR GILLESPIE.

ANY REPORTS, UH, JUST IN CASE THERE ARE CHANGES.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

UM, I'M SUBBING IN FOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR CARPENTER, UH, THIS EVENING.

I WANTED TO PASS ALONG A COUPLE REMARKS ABOUT ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, UM, WE AND THE FARMERS CAN ALL THANK THE RAIN THAT HAS FALLEN THE LAST FEW DAYS FOR THE JULY 4TH FIREWORKS THAT ARE ALSO GONNA PROCEED.

SO WE'RE STILL ON, UH, WE'RE STILL ON FOR THOSE TO GO.

UH, ALL CITIZENS, PLEASE KEEP AN EYE OUT, UH, FOR

[VII. County Administrator's Comments]

BUT AT THE MOMENT, UH, FIREWORKS ARE ALL ON.

UH, SO AGAIN, THANKS FOR THE RAIN.

LET'S HAVE MORE OF IT.

UM, IT'S A GREAT DAY IN GOLAND COUNTY.

UM, TOMORROW, HOWEVER, AS GREAT AS IT WILL BE, WILL BE CLOSED.

SO, UH, COUNTY OFFICES AND CONVENIENCE CENTERS ARE ALL CLOSED.

UM, COMING UP SOON AT THE END OF THE MONTH, WE HAVE, UH, THE, TOMORROW OR FOURTH, EXCUSE ME, JULY 4TH.

IT'S A GREAT DAY TODAY.

ON THE FOURTH WILL BE CLOSED.

FOLKS AT A FUN PARK OVER THE SUMMER.

UM, COMING UP AT THE END OF THE MONTH, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION IS, UH, HAPPY TO HOST AGAIN.

UM, UH, AN ADDITIONAL EVENT AT NIGHT AT TUCKER PARK.

SO ON JULY 26TH, PLEASE PLAN TO ATTEND.

WE'LL HAVE, UM, IN ADDITION TO A GREAT BAND WITH EXIT 38, UH, PROMISES TO BE A FUN NIGHT, WE'LL HAVE SEVERAL FOOD TRUCKS AND BE READY FOR, UH, AGAIN, HOSTING, UH, GOOD

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WE'LL CLOSE UP, UH, PART OF OUR SUMMER WITH NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, WHICH IS ALWAYS, UH, VERY IMPORTANT EVENT OF GLAND COMMUNITY.

UH, ON AUGUST 6TH, UH, ON COURTHOUSE GREEN, WE'LL HAVE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT, UH, FOR GLAND COUNTY HERE IN THE COURTHOUSE.

THAT'S ALSO THE BOARD MEETING NIGHT.

AND SO THE BOARD MEETING WILL START AT 7:00 PM THAT EVENING.

UM, I ALSO WANNA WELCOME, UH, ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL THAT ARE ON DECK OR HAVE RECENTLY BEEN BROUGHT ON BOARD AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES, PARKS AND RECREATION, AND THE ANIMAL SHELTER.

UM, BIG MOVES, UH, WITH THE BOARD SUPPORT THROUGH THE BUDGET THROUGH THIS PAST YEAR.

UH, THANKS TO THAT WE'RE GROWING OUR FAMILY AND WE'RE GROWING WITHIN OUR FAMILY.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU TONIGHT.

WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU MR. GILLESPIE.

UM, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO REQUEST TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS AND, AND ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES IN THE ORDER OF PRESENTATION.

UM, I WILL NOTE THAT WE HAVE A REQUEST TO DEFER THE AGENDA ITEM FOR SIDNEY AND SIDNEY, UH, TO THE AUGUST 6TH BOARD MEETING.

UM, THAT MOTION, THAT FORMAL MOTION WILL TAKE PLACE TONIGHT.

UM, BUT I AM MAKING YOU AWARE OF THAT.

UH, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS

[VIII. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the Order of Presentation]

OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MR. HONOR.

UM, I'M NOT SURE UNDER REPORTS, HOW EXTENSIVE IS THE BROADBAND REPORT GOING TO BE? I LABORED THROUGH MY BLACK AND WHITE VERSION, AND I WAS HAVING TROUBLE GETTING THE SHADES OF GRAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR. DRUMRIGHT IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING OR IF THIS IS ALL READERSHIP.

MR. DRUMRIGHT, UH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE THERE YET.

I WAS JUST ASKING IF NO, I MEAN, WE, WE CAN AT LEAST ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.

MULTIPLE CITIZENS WISH TO HAVE A COMMON SPEAKER, THEY MAY C THEIR TIME IN TWO MINUTE INCREMENTS UP TO THE ALLOTTED 10 MINUTE TIME LIMIT PER THE BOARD'S, BOARDS RULES OF PROCEDURE SECTION 3.2, A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME INTENDED TO NOT BE MORE THAN AN HOUR IS ALLOCATED FOR CITIZEN'S COMMENT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WAS NOT, I DID NOT HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION FOR YOU, BUT MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF, UH, PRESENTATION IF YOU'D LIKE.

HOW ABOUT IN THE ESSENCE? WE'LL CATCH UP.

ANY, UH, ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.

UM, CITIZENS ARE REMINDED THAT COMMENTS, EXCUSE ME, REPORTS ARE AFTER THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE FINE.

UM, CITIZENS ARE REMINDED THAT COMMENTS SHOULD BE ABOUT ITEMS NOT COVERED BY THE PUBLIC MEETINGS BEING HELD LATER TONIGHT.

COMMENTS SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL AND NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES OF LENGTH.

SHOULD

[IX. Citizen Comment]

WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN UP THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.

AND, UH, PLEASE COME TO THE MIC AND STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD MANNEQUIN SBOT, DISTRICT FOUR.

UM, ON THE 11TH OF DECEMBER, UH, A NEW GROUP WAS FORMED CALLED THE COMMUNITY UH PLANNING COMMITTEE, OR CPC.

UM, WE, I, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THE ROOT CAUSE, WHICH IS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVING LAND USE AND ZONING WITHOUT HAVING ACCESS TO ACCURATE AND NECESSARY INFORMATION.

UH, FROM THE, FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THIS NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO FOCUS ON PUBLIC SAFETY.

CURRENTLY, THERE ARE TWO PLANNING TOOLS THAT ARE NOT BEING USED.

UM, ONE IS THE PRE-APPLICATION, UH, DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, WHICH I, I HAVE SENT YOU ALL.

UM, AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE, UM, UH, PRE-APPLICATION CHECKLIST.

UM, THIS IS WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT TO THE PLANNING, UH, STAFF.

WHEN THE PLANNING STAFF REPORTS LEAVES OUT ACCURATE AND NECESSARY INFORMATION FROM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW MEETING, PUBLIC SAFETY IS BEING PUT AT RISK.

THE PRIMARY GOAL OF OUR GROUP IS TO ENSURE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAVE ACCURATE AND NECESSARY INFORMATION TO MAKE INFORMED, THOUGHTFUL, TRANSPARENT, AND RESPONSIBLE DECISIONS.

PRIORITY NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN REAL TIME.

THAT MEANS PREPARING A CONCISE PRESENTATION FOR THE, FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION,

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UM, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UM, IT NEEDS TO FOCUS ON THAT.

I'M GONNA FAST FORWARD BECAUSE MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS OR A TIA IS NOT THE SAME AS A ROAD STUDY ROAD SAFETY STUDY.

THE TIA IS DONE BY THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPER.

A ROAD STUDY IS DONE BY VDOT.

KNOWING THE DIFFERENCE MEANS ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.

UM, SO I'M ASKING YOU TO, TO KEEP THAT IN MIND.

UM, AS YOU, UH, TONIGHT YOU WILL BE VOTING ON ACCESS MANAGEMENT, UH, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A TIA IS VERSUS A ROAD SAFETY.

HELLO, MY NAME IS MARJORIE MAYO.

I LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE.

THIS ONE YOU CAN SEE YOU'LL ADVANCE WITH THIS RIGHT HERE.

THIS ONE RIGHT HERE.

AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE 45.

UM, I WANT TO, UH, TALK ABOUT SOME ROAD CONCERNS THAT I'VE HAD FOR A LONG TIME.

UM, THESE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE VDOT REPRESENTATIVE BEFORE.

I SEE HE'S HERE TONIGHT, THIS AFTERNOON, AND I WANNA BRING THEM UP AGAIN BECAUSE TRAFFIC HAS INCREASED, UH, JUST SO MUCH SINCE, SINCE THE LAST TIME THESE ITEMS WERE ADDRESSED AND NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT 'EM.

SO, UM, MRS. MAY YOU CAN MOVE THAT MIC TO, I DON'T HAVE TO TILT YOUR HEAD IF UNNECESSARY.

IT'S NOT THE WHITE AIR.

YEAH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT WORKING.

, WHICH LAPTOP IS IT? IS IT FOR THIS ONE OR YOURS? THIS, I SWITCHED THE SCREEN.

I HOPE MY TIME'S NOT RUNNING OUT.

NO, IT'S, WE'LL, WE'LL ADJUST IT NOW.

GIVE IT A TRY.

THERE WE GO.

THE FIRST ONE IS HAYDENVILLE VILLAGE.

SEE, I DRIVE THESE ROADS 'CAUSE I LIVE IN DISTRICT ONE ALL THE TIME.

HAYDENVILLE VILLAGE IS QUITE BUSY.

YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE, THE MAP HERE, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES, DUKE'S AUTO DE MO'S, UH, MARKET HAYDENVILLE STORE, AND THEN NOW YOU HAVE DOLLAR GENERAL.

UM, YOU HAVE TRAFFIC COMING, GOING OUT AND COMING IN FROM I 64.

THE MAIN THOROUGHFARE THERE, THE SPEED LIMIT IS 55.

YOU HAVE, UH, OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD COMING OUT ON TWO 50, UM, FROM BOTH DIRECTIONS.

THEN DOWN THERE, UM, BEYOND DUKE'S AUTO, YOU HAVE ANOTHER CROSSROADS, RIGHT WHERE DE DEMO'S MARKET IS.

AND IT'S, IT'S JUST A VERY AWKWARD INTERSECTION AND I FEEL LIKE THE SPEED LIMIT SHOULD BE REDUCED TO 45 THROUGH THERE.

SO THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS THAT I'VE LISTED, UM, AND I JUST TALKED ABOUT.

THEN WE HAVE GEORGE'S TAVERN.

PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING.

SPEED LIMIT'S 55 ON ROUTE SIX.

YOU HAVE ALL THESE BUSINESSES THERE.

THE TWO, UM, GROCERY STORES OR, OR MANY MARKETS WITH GAS STATIONS.

UM, YOU HAVE HILLTOP DIESEL, YOU HAVE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT ON HAYDENVILLE FIFE ROAD FROM BIRD, I MEAN BIRD SCHOOL.

THERE'S TRAFFIC CONSTANTLY COMING AND GOING THERE.

THE FIVE FIREHOUSE, YOU HAVE THE INTERSECTION OF ROUTE 45.

UM, I'VE JUST SEEN TRAFFIC INCREASE SO MUCH THROUGH THESE AREAS AND I JUST FEEL LIKE THE SPEED LIMIT IS 55 IS JUST TOO FAST.

AND I RELATE THAT TO CROSIER.

'CAUSE CROZIER ON ROUTE TWO 50, I MEAN ON ROUTE SIX IS 45, AND I DON'T THINK THE, UH, THE TRAFFIC IS NEAR AS, UH, THE BUSINESSES.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE BUSINESSES YOU DO, UH, THAT YOU HAVE IN FIFE OR GEORGE'S TAVERN IN HAYDENVILLE.

THEN ON COMMUNITY HOUSE ROAD, I WANNA ADDRESS, UM, WHERE THAT LITTLE RED X IS.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING AT.

LET'S SEE.

THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO POSTED SPEED LIMIT ON COMMUNITY HOUSE.

IT'S 55

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THERE IS NO CENTER LINES.

THE ROAD IS, UH, NO SHOULDERS, VERY CURVY, HILLY.

I THINK I'VE, WAIT A MINUTE, UH, OH.

OH, START THE PRESENTATION.

UM, THE INTERSECTION OF LOWY ROAD AND COMMUNITY HOUSE ROAD.

THERE'S A HUGE BLIND SPOT WHEN PEOPLE ARE TURNING LEFT, COMING FROM THE EAST, GOING WEST, UM, DOWN THERE AT MATTHEWS AND COMMUNITY HOUSE ROAD, UH, WHERE THE BRIDGES ARE, WHICH OLD TIMERS CALL THREE CREEKS.

IT'S, THE BRIDGES ARE VERY NARROW.

UM, THAT, THAT ROAD NEEDS TO HAVE A SPEED LIMIT ON IT, A 45 AND THEN ON WHITEHALL ROAD.

AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING THAT SECTION PAVED FROM CHAPEL HILL OUT TO HAYDENVILLE FIFE.

BUT WHEN IS THAT BRIDGE THAT CROSSES WHITEHALL CREEK EVER GONNA BE FIXED? THE DIP IN THAT BRIDGE IS TERRIBLE.

THERE'S NO WARNING SIGN.

UM, YOU REALLY HAVE TO BREAK HARD OR YOU'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, KNOCK YOUR ALIGNMENT OUT EVERY TIME YOU HIT THAT DIP.

SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. MAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, MY NAME IS SANDY BRINLEY AND I AM A DIRECTOR WITH THE MONON SOIL AND WATER DISTRICT.

I'M HERE WITH MY, UM, ESTEEMED COLLEAGUE, SEBASTIAN VOLKER, WHO IS ALSO A DIRECTOR.

UM, OUR OTHER DIRECTORS ARE, SEND THEIR REGRETS THAT THEY CANNOT BE HERE AS WELL.

AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR, OUR, UM, OUR FABULOUS, UM, DISTRICT MANAGER, UH, KEITH BURGESS.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY.

WE ARE WORKING TO DO A BETTER JOB OF INTRODUCING OURSELVES TO ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE.

UM, AND WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT, UM, PLAN GOING FORWARD AND JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.

BUT I ALSO WANTED AT THIS MOMENT TO TAKE A, A BIT OF A SECOND TO CORRECT SOMETHING, UM, THAT WE SAW IN THE, UM, INFORMATION THAT MR. LYLE PROVIDED IN THE AGRICULTURAL SUMMARY TODAY.

SO IF I CAN JUST READ THIS QUICK STATEMENT FOR THE 2024 VIRGINIA AGRICULTURAL COST SHARE PROGRAM YEAR ENDING JUNE 30TH TO SAY $1,039,000 FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF AGRICULTURAL BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICES HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED, IS NOT CORRECT.

TO CLARIFY MR. LYLE'S STATEMENT, MONICA HAS RECEIVED, UM, $1,039,000 IN OBLIGATIONS TO PRODUCERS FOR THE VAX PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2024.

HOWEVER, THIS NUMBER, UM, IS NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT FUNDS FOR PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS YEARS AND PROJECTS THAT HAVE YET TO BE COMPLETED AS THEY WILL NEED TO BE CONTINUED THROUGHOUT NEXT YEAR.

IN ADDITION, IF A PROJECT ENDS UP NOT GOING FORWARD, THOSE FUNDS FROM THAT MONEY ARE SENT BACK TO THE STATE.

I ALSO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE VAX FUNDS THAT ARE RECEIVED ARE DIRECT PAYMENTS TO THE PRODUCERS AND DO NOT PROVIDE FUNDS TO THE MONON DISTRICT FOR OPERATING EXPENSES.

OUR ANNUAL REPORT LATER THIS YEAR WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON THESE PRACTICES AND CURRENT V CONTRACTS.

UM, AND IF YOU DO HAVE ANY INFORMATION, I KNOW KEITH AND COLTON AND LII ARE PHENOMENAL.

STAFF ARE GONNA BE, MAKE THEMSELVES AVAILABLE AS WELL AS ALL OF THE DIRECTORS AND ASSOCIATE DIRECTORS.

AND I HAVE MY CARDS HERE SO I CAN LEAVE THEM FOR YOU.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A MOMENT.

BLESS YOU.

ANY OTHER CITIZENS? OKAY, SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 4TH REGULAR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM? MOTION TO APPROVE IS PRESENTED.

I'LL, I'LL EMAIL IT TO YOU.

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ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? OKAY, THANK YOU.

WE WILL NOW

[X. Approval of Action Minutes]

MOVE ON TO REPORTS.

UM, I WILL NOW ASK MR. MARSHALL WYNN TO PRESENT THE VDOT REPORT TO THE BOARD.

UH, ALL OTHER REPORTS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

UM, MR. WYNN, FOUR WAS YOURS, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. GILLESPIE, MARSHALL WYNN WITH VDOT BEFORE I GET STARTED, ANY WAY YOU CAN SEND ME THAT SLIDE DECK THAT YES,

[XI. Reports]

YEAH, I NEED TO GET CONTACT NUMBER FOR YOU TOO, IF THAT'S OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

THIS PAST MONTH, UH, WE HAD 135

[1. VDOT - June 2024]

WORK ORDERS COMPLETED.

158 HAD SIX CALLOUTS AFTER HOUR.

CALLOUTS BEEN DOING REGULAR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES, POTHOLE AND ASPHALT REPAIRS, DITCHING SHOULDER REPAIRS, TREE AND BRUSH, AND PRUNING THE TREES AND CLEAN UP LITTER PICK UP.

UH, WE COMPLETED A SECOND CYCLE OF PRIMARY MODE AND COMPLETED THE FIRST CYCLE OF SECONDARY MODE.

UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

NOT UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

MR. CHRISTIE, UH, REGARDING MS. MAYO'S, UM, COMPLAINTS AND, AND CONCERNS OF THE HAYDENVILLE GEORGE TAVERN AREA, WHAT AUTHORITY DO WE HAVE AS A BOARD TO ADDRESS THOSE? I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE ANY.

WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY DONE SPEED STUDIES ON THOSE TWO AREAS IN THE PAST.

DO WE, DO WE HAVE DATES FOR THOSE SPEED STUDIES? I CAN GET 'EM.

AND FORWARD 'EM ON TO YOU.

I KNOW WE'VE LOOKED AT BOTH OF THOSE IN THE PAST AND IT DIDN'T WARRANT A SPEED REDUCTION.

GOTCHA.

SO WAS THERE, WAS THERE EVER A SPEED STUDY ON THE COMMUNITY HOUSE ROAD? I DOUBT THAT.

I DOUBT THAT.

THAT'S WHY I WANT THAT SLIDE DECK SO I CAN LOOK AT THOSE ITEMS. OKAY.

MM-HMM, , THANK YOU.

YEAH, I, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'RE DOING ON, UH, HOCKET ROAD.

I, I ENCOUNTERED A LITTLE DETOUR THERE, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING IN SOME DRAINAGE PIPES AND THAT'S ALWAYS HAPPY NEWS.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, AND I HAD ASKED EARLIER, AND I'M NOT SURE IF IT WAS IN WRITTEN OR CONVERSATION, BUT ON, UH, BLAIR AND, AND PAGE, BROOKE, WE, WE'VE GOT SOME WATER SHEETING THAT GOES ON DURING HEAVY, HEAVY DOWNPOURS.

AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN DOING SOME DITCH WORK.

IS, IS THAT ONE OF THE DETAILS IN HERE THAT I MAY HAVE MISSED OR NO? NO, IT'S NOT ON THERE, BUT THAT'S SCHEDULED TO BE DONE, ESPECIALLY BLAIR ROAD AND BLAIR ROAD IS, IS, IS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.

IT'S FLAT.

AND THERE'S ONLY ONE OR TWO CROSS PIPES IN THERE THAT GOES TO THE WEST.

SO SCHEDULED FOR THIS SUMMER OR? YES.

ANY COMMENT? BOARD? OKAY, MR. WYNN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

MM-HMM, .

UM, DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS WISH TO REPORT ON ANY REGIONAL BOARDS THAT THEY'RE SERVING ON? NO.

SECTION 14,251, WHICH IS THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT, UH, SECTION OF CODE TO REVISE THE PARCEL REMOVAL CRITERIA.

I'LL NOW, NOW ASK MR. GILLESPIE TO SUMMARIZE THE ITEMS UNDER, UH, ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND THEN WE'LL SEEK A MOTION EITHER AS A GROUP OR TAKEN INDIVIDUALLY, MR. GILLESPIE.

THANK YOU MS. CHAIR.

TONIGHT WE HAVE SIX ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.

ITEM ONE IS ITEM 6 1 1 0.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO SET THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUGUST 6TH, 2024 TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING COUNTY CODE

[XII. Consent Agenda]

OBJECTION.

ITEM NUMBER TWO IS ITEM NUMBER 61 0 9.

THIS IS A REQUEST TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR AUGUST 6TH, 2024 TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING COUNTY CODE SECTION 14,251 UCK CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT SECTION OF CODE TO INCLUDE WITHIN THE SERVICE DISTRICT.

A PARCEL LOCATED AT 1 2 6 9 3 PAMELA LANE, IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP NUMBER 48 3G TWO.

THIRD ITEM IS ITEM 6 1 0 2.

THIS IS A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE FISCAL YEAR 2024 GLAND COUNTY BUDGET BY BUDGETING AND APPROPRIATING $66,572 AND THE SCHOOL OPERATING FUND.

THE FOURTH ITEM ON CONSENT IS ITEM 6 1 0 0.

IT'S A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION EXCEPT MOSAIC AT WEST CREEK SECTION FIVE SUBDIVISION STREETS INTO THE SECONDARY SYSTEM OF STATE HIGHWAYS FOR MAINTENANCE.

THE FIFTH ITEM ON CONSENT IS ITEM 6 1 0 1, AUTHORIZATION FOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, VDOT FOR PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES OUTSIDE THE RIGHT OF WAY, ALSO IN MOSAIC AT WEST CREEK SECTION FIVE.

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AND THE SIXTH ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA IS ITEM 6 0 9 9.

AND THIS IS A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECT FUNDING MATERIALS RELATING TO ALL THESE ITEMS ARE IN YOUR PACKET.

THANK YOU MR. GILLESPIE.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? NO.

DO I HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE ALL THE ITEMS? NICK AGENDA? HAVE A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, SAY AYE.

WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO NEW BUSINESS.

UH, THIS AFTERNOON.

WE HAVE TWO APPOINTMENTS TO MAKE TO THE, TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.

FIRST WE HAVE THE NOMINATION OF MR. JUSTIN LACEY TO THE POSITION OF MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF APPEALS.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

[XIII. New Business]

UH, NEXT WE HAVE THE NOMINATION OF DONALD MCDONALD TO THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS AS AN ALTERNATE.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.

ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.

THE THIRD IS THE APPOINTMENT OF DWAYNE COSBY, PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT FIVE TO THE PLAN RVA COMMISSION FOR A TWO YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE JULY 2ND, 2024, AND ENDING ON JUNE 30TH, 2026.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? OKAY.

NOT BE MORE THAN AN HOUR IS ALLOCATED FOR CITIZENS' COMMENT.

WE WILL NOW BREAK UNTIL THE 6:00 PM PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, THIS NIGHT'S, UH, THIS EVENING'S, UH, BOARD MEETING.

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CITIZENS ARE REMINDED THAT COMMENTS SHOULD BE ABOUT ITEMS NOT COVERED BY THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEING HELD LATER TONIGHT.

COMMENTS SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL AND NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IN LENGTH.

SHOULD MULTIPLE CITIZENS WISH TO HAVE A COMMON SPEAKER, THEY MAY CEDE THEIR TIME IN TWO MINUTE INCREMENTS UP TO A TOTAL ALLOTTED TIME OF

[XV. 6:00 PM - Chair Calls Meeting Back to Order]

10 MINUTES.

AND I JUST WILL NOTE, IF YOU'RE GONNA SEE TIME, PLEASE COME UP TO THE MIC WITH THE SPEAKER YOU'VE CHOSEN.

POUR THE BOARDS RULES OF PROCEDURES.

SECTION 3.2.

A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME INTENDED TO

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I WILL NOW OPEN THE PERIOD.

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55.414 ACRES ON TAX MAC MAP NUMBER 43 26 0 1 0 43 26 0 2 0 43 26 0 3 0 43 26 0 4 0 43 26 0 5 0

ANYONE GOING ONCE? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.

WE'LL NOW MOVE TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THE BOARD HAS RECEIVED A REQUEST TO DEFER THE SYDNEY AND SYDNEY APPLICATION.

ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA, UH, TO ITS AUGUST 6TH MEETING.

MAY I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MOVE THAT THE BOARD DEFER CONSIDERATION OF RZ 20 24 0 0 0 1 4.

[XVII. Public Hearings]

[1. District 3 - RZ-2024-00001 Application by Sidney & Sidney Developments, LLC requesting to rezone 55.414 acres from Agricultural, Limited (A-2) to Residential, Limited (R-1) with proffered conditions, to allow for a residential subdivision at the intersection of Greenbriar Branch Drive and Glebe Road on Tax Map Nos. 43-26-0-1-0, 43-26-0-2-0, 43-26-0-3-0, 43-26-0-4-0, 43-26-0-5-0, and 43-26-0-6-0. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Single Family Residential. Applicant has requested a deferral of this application to the Board of Supervisors August 6, 2024 Meeting.]

AND 43 26 0 6 0 FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE WITH PROPER CONDITIONS, UH, TO OUR MEETING IN AUGUST.

GOT A SECOND, MR. CHRISTIE? OKAY.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL VOTE? MR. COLEMAN.

THANK YOU MS. MS. KITZ.

UH, OKAY.

UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM TWO, UM, UH, REGARDING REPEALING GOLING COUNTY CODE CHAPTER FIVE, UH, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL IN ITS ENTIRETY.

IN REPLACING WITH CHAPTER FIVE, EROSION AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM TO UPDATE THE COUNTY'S ORDINANCE WITH NEW STATE LAWS AND REGULATIONS

[2. Countywide - Ordinance repealing Goochland County Code Chapter 5 (Stormwater Management and Erosion and Sediment Control) in its entirety and replacing with Chapter 5 (Erosion and Stormwater Management Program) to update the county’s ordinance with new state laws and regulations; and amending Appendix C to the County Code (Fee Schedule) to combine stormwater management and erosion and sediment control permit fees and revise permit names consistent with the new ordinance]

AND AMENDING APPENDIX C TO THE COUNTY CODE, UH, ENS FEE SCHEDULE, UH, IN TO COMBINE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL, PERMIT FEES AND REVISE PERMIT NAMES CONSISTENT WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE.

MISS UH, JAMIE CHERRY, I'M SORRY, I HAD ANOTHER NAME ON MY LIST.

WILL PRESENT.

GOOD EVENING, MR. BOS.

UM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. GILLES, MR. GILLESPIE.

I'M JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ME, UH, COMMUNITY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING IS FOR A COUNTYWIDE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.

THE AMENDMENT WOULD REPEAL AND REPLACE CHAPTER FIVE OF THE GLAND COUNTY CODE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL IN ITS ENTIRETY, AND REPLACE IT WITH AN ORDINANCE THAT'S IN ACCORDANCE WITH NEW STATE LAWS AND REGULATIONS.

THIS AMENDMENT IS A RESULT OF THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, MANDATING THAT THE EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL REGULATIONS BE COMBINED WITH THE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REGULATIONS.

THERE ARE NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THESE REGULATIONS.

IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW REGULATION IS REQUIRED AS OF JULY 1ST, 2024.

AND YES, TODAY IS JULY 2ND.

HAD ANY APPLICATIONS BEEN SUBMITTED, THE NEW PROCESS WOULD HAVE BEEN, UM, FOLLOWED.

PER STATE CODE MANDATE STAFF DRAFTED THIS ORDINANCE BASED ON THE VIRGINIA DEQ MODEL ORDINANCE.

THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS.

THE CURRENT ORDINANCE REQUIRES LAND DISTURBANCE PERMIT, AND STORM ORDER PERMITS BE APPLIED FOR SEPARATELY, REVIEWED SEPARATELY, AND ISSUED SEPARATELY.

NOW THERE IS ONE, ONLY ONE APPLICATION AND PROCESS PROCESS.

THIS AMENDMENT IS ALSO PROPOSES CHANGES TO THE FEE SCHEDULE.

THE NEW FEES SIMPLY COMBINE THE TWO PROGRAMS INTO ONE FEE.

SO THERE IS NO, NO INCREASE OF FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS CHANGE.

A COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD ON JUNE 12TH ON THIS AMENDMENT AND NO CONCERNS WERE RAISED.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

STAFF IS ALSO HERE TO ASSIST IN ANY QUESTIONS, ANSWERING SUPERVISORS.

ANY QUESTIONS BEING NO QUESTIONS FROM THE DATES? I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

OH, THANK YOU.

THREE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT NOW.

UM, MY NAME IS LOUISE THOMPSON.

I LIVE IN 1930 SOLDIERS LODGE ROAD.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

I WASN'T INTENDING TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU MY COMMENT.

I'M WORKING WITH

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IT DURING TO WORK THEM, THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF THE INSPECTIONS, THE FEES, THE FORMS AND THAT KIND OF THING.

I WANNA COMMENT, UM, COMMEND EMILY LANGUAGE FOR BEING SO HELPFUL ON THIS.

BUT IT IS A HUGE TASK FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ENGINEERS AND NOT SOIL SCIENTISTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TO GO THROUGH THIS.

AND WE'RE ASKING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS, THE BOARDS TO MONITOR THIS PROGRAM AND COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY.

AND IT'S A PRETTY DAUNTING TASK.

SO I HOPE THE STAFF IS PATIENT WITH FUTURE BOARDS.

WHEN THEY HAVE TO COME THROUGH AND PAY FEES, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL ENGINEERING FEES TO DO THESE INSPECTIONS.

AND THAT GETS PASSED ON TO THE HOMEOWNERS AS A RESULT.

HOMEOWNERS CHOOSE RAISE AND EVERYBODY GOES CRAZY.

SO JUST BE PATIENT IN THE YEARS TO COME WHEN THIS COMES UP FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS.

THANK YOU MS. THOMPSON.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? OKAY, SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.

UM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DO I HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND IF NOT, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MR. SPINOFF? WILL THERE BE DISCUSSION AFTER THE MOTION? YES.

UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THE BOARD ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE, AMENDMENT APPEALING OR REPLACING CHAPTER FIVE, RELATING TO STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND ROSE SEDIMENT CONTROL ANIMATING APPENDIX C TO COMBINE STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL, PERMIT FEES AND REVISED PERMIT NAMES CONSISTENT WITH THE NEW ORDINANCE.

THERE AREN'T SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES.

HAVE SECOND? SECOND.

NOW TIME FOR DISCUSSION? YES.

UM, SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

UM, THIS MRS. THOMPSON'S COMMENTS MADE ME THINK SOMETHING HAS CHANGED, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS THESE ARE HOW THE PROGRAM HAS CONTINUED TO WORK AND THIS IS JUST ALIGNING WITH THE STATE CODES.

WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY CHANGING ANYTHING.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THE STATE COMBINED THE PROCESSES, BUT WHAT THE PROCESSES ARE AND SO FORTH ARE THE SAME.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IS THEY'VE TRIED TO STREAMLINE IT BECAUSE THERE'S WHAT, WHICH IS UNUSUAL FOR GOVERNMENT.

SO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT WHEN WE CAN.

VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY, MS. TARA MCGEE WILL PRESENT YES, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC, UH, WHILE THIS WAS ADOPTED IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY IN 2023.

SINCE WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION SINCE WE HAVE THOSE TWO? MS. MS. GEZ, UH, WOULD YOU TAKE THE ROLE PLEASE? MR. MILE? YES.

WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM THREE ON OUR PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA.

UH, ORDINANCE AMENDING GLAND COUNTY CODE SECTION 13 DASH 10.5, THE EXEMPTION FOR FARM ANIMALS, AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS, FARM MACHINERY, FARM IMPLEMENTS AND EQUIPMENT TO UPDATE THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION CATEGORIES FOR FARM VEHICLES CONSISTENT WITH STATE LAW UPDATES ENACTED BY THE 2023

[3. Ordinance amending Goochland County Code Sec. 13-10.5 (Exemption for farm animals, agricultural products, farm machinery, farm implements, and equipment) to update the personal property tax exemption categories for farm vehicles consistent with state law updates enacted by the 2023 Virginia General Assembly]

ITS EFFECTIVE DATE IS JULY OF 2024.

WE BRING IT FORWARD AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMISSIONER REVENUE AND WITH HER RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL.

IT JUST HAS TO DO WITH, AGAIN, A STATE LAW CHANGE THAT CHANGED THE PLACARD REQUIREMENT FOR FARM VEHICLES.

AND WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR ORDINANCE TO COMPORT.

THE COMMISSIONER OF REVENUE HAS SAID THAT THIS WOULD NOT HAVE AN IMPACT ON TAXES.

THE VEHICLES THAT COMPLY WITH THIS IN THE PAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO COMPLY.

SO IT WOULD BE NO CHANGE TO REVENUE.

IT'S A MERE LANGUAGE CHANGE TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.

UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT, UH, THIS ORDINANCE AMENDING COUNTY CODE SECTION THREE DASH 10.5 TO UPDATE THE COUNTY'S PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION FOR FARM VEHICLES.

OKAY, SECOND, UH, DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD.

DASH THREE, AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE, COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 15, AND AMENDMENT TO SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, COUNTY CODE APPENDIX B TO IMPROVE ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND UPDATE ROAD STANDARDS.

SEEING NONE, UH, MS. OVITZ, WOULD YOU TAKE THE ROLL CALL MR. RE? MR. ? WELL, YES.

MS. B, I'M SORRY, .

WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM FOUR ON OUR PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA, ZOA DASH 2023

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MR. RAY CASH WILL PRESENT.

[4. Countywide - ZOA-2023-00003 Amendment to Zoning Ordinance (County Code Chapter 15) and Amendment to Subdivision Ordinance (County Code Appendix B) to improve access management and update road standards]

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

AND HELLO, MR. GILLESPIE.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE VISITED YOU A COUPLE TIMES OVER AS WE'VE BEEN THROUGH, UM, UH, SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THIS, BUT HOPEFULLY WE'VE MOVED IT FORWARD.

UM, BEEN ABLE TO RESPOND TO PEOPLE.

I'LL DO A QUICK RUN THROUGH OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE CHANGES.

WE REALLY WON'T DO A DEEP DIVE UNLESS ASKED TO DO SO.

UM, SO WHY DON'T WE START THIS? WHY DO WE NEED THE NEED FOR CHANGES? WELL, PART OF IT WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE SHOULD DO, WE SHOULD PROMOTE PUBLIC SAFETY AND CONVENIENCE.

WE WANT TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN OUR PLANNED ROADS THAT ARE IN OUR THOROUGH OF OUR PLAN OR OTHER, UM, UM, PLANS, AND ALSO OUR ORDINANCE PROTECT AND FU IMPROVEMENTS FROM FUTURE ROAD EXPANSION AND ENCOURAGE BETTER ROAD MAINTENANCE AND REMOVE SOME OUTDATED REQUIREMENTS.

SO AS I'LL GO THROUGH THESE DIFFERENT SLIDES TO KIND OF HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN THE PROPOSAL, WE WANTED TO REVISE OUR ROAD CLASSIFICATIONS.

WE WANT TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE, THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY IN WHAT ROADS WERE CLASSIFIED OR CALLED THAT AFFECTS OUR RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AND OTHER DESIGN STANDARDS AS WE HAVE THEM WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.

WE WANT TO REVISE CERTAIN ACCESS MANAGEMENT STANDARDS TO MATCH OUR PRACTICE, UPDATE COMMERCIAL DRAW STANDARDS TO MEET THE FIRE CODE AND UPDATE OUR, UH, OUR, UM, TRANSPORTATION IMPACT ANALYSIS STANDARDS AS WELL.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ADDED TO THIS ORDINANCE WAS REALLY TO DEFINE AND CREATE A TERM CALLED ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO BASICALLY, ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY IS THE RIGHT OF WAY.

THAT'S BASED UPON OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN, APPROVED ROAD CONSTRUCTION PLANS, VDOT S ROAD OR STANDARDS, AND ANY EXISTING DEDICATION THAT HAVE OCCURRED.

SO FOR A SUBDIVISION THAT'S RECORDED, THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY, FOR INSTANCE, IS BASED UPON WHAT'S RECORDED WITH THE PLAT.

WHAT DOES THIS DO? IT AIDS IN OUR ROAD AND OUR ROAD DEVELOPMENT PLANNING RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION.

THAT'S HOW WE CAN CLEARLY TELL PEOPLE, UM, THIS IS HOW MUCH RIGHT OF WAY IS EXPECTED TO BE DEVELOPED AT THE TIME WHEN THEY COME THROUGH ZONING OR THROUGH DEVELOPMENT.

BUT ALSO WE WANT TO REQUIRE THE SETBACKS FROM THE ULTIMATE RIGHT OF WAY.

PART OF THAT IS YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT BUILDING AND IMPROVEMENTS IN THE, LIKE, DON'T GET IT WITHIN THE UL THE FUTURE RIGHT OF WAY THAT PROTECTS PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.

AND ALSO, UM, YOU DON'T WANT SETBACKS TO BE TOO CLOSE.

IT ALLOWS FOR FUTURE ROAD CONSTRUCTION WITHOUT DAMAGING WHAT PEOPLE INVEST IN OR IMPROVEMENTS THEY DO.

ANOTHER CHANGE WAS MATCHING A LONG TERM BOARD POLICY OF REQUIRING A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFERS ALONG HIGH VOLUME ROADS THROUGH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

UM, ORIGINALLY FOR COLLECTORS AND ARTERIALS, BOTH THE BOARD'S EXPECTATIONS AND THE POLICY HAD BEEN ABOUT A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER.

BUT PROPOSAL WAS TO SAY, WE'LL CODIFY THAT PROVISION AND WE'LL HAVE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG ARTERIAL ROADS AND 50 FOOT BUFFERS, UM, ALONG COLLECTOR ROADS.

SO THROUGH THIS AMENDMENT, WE EXPECTATION IS THAT ROADS ARE TO BE PUBLIC, UM, TO GO INTO THE VDOT SYSTEM FOR MAINTENANCE, UH, ROADS AND SUBDIVISIONS OF MINOR SUBDIVISIONS OF NO MORE THAN FOUR LOTS AND FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS AND NO MORE THAN SIX CAN BE PRIVATE.

UM, WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED THAT TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS, MULTIFAMILY OR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS FOR ROADS THAT DO NOT PROVIDE GENERAL CIRCULATION.

THEY COULD ALSO BE PRIVATE FOR ANY OF THE REPUBLIC ROADS REQUIREMENTS.

WE'VE ALSO PLACED THE EXCEPTION THAT THE BOARD, UM, THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS COULD GRANT EXCEPTION THAT A ROAD COULD BE PRIVATE RATHER THAN PUBLIC.

SO FOR ROAD DESIGN, THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION REALLY IN OUR SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE ABOUT WHAT EXACT STANDARDS WERE REQUIRED FOR DIFFERENT ROADS.

UM, WE WOULD ALWAYS PROVIDE THAT.

TWO LOTS CAN HAVE A SHARED DRIVE.

THERE'S REALLY NO STANDARDS FOR THAT.

UM, IN THE CODE FOR THREE TO FOUR LOT DEVELOPMENTS, THE EXPECTATION IS THEY WOULD MEET FIRE CODE STANDARDS AND IT'S USUALLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF GRAVEL 20 FEET WIDE AND, AND DIFFERENT REGULATIONS OCCUR THROUGH DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.

UM, SUBDIVISION ALLEY, THOSE ARE SOMETHING THAT REALLY WERE DISCOURAGED PREVIOUSLY IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT IT'S A GREAT DEVELOPMENT TOOL.

THEY'RE USED IN A LOT OF, UH, TOWNHOUSE AND SMALL OUT DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS AT LEAST PROVIDE FOR THOSE AND THEY COULD BE APPROVED THROUGH THE TENTATIVE, UH, PLAT PROCESS FOR ROAD DESIGN.

GENERALLY FOR SUBDIVISION ROADS, FOR MEANING FIVE OR MORE LOTS, THAT'S A MAJOR SUBDIVISION, UM, SHOULD EXPECT TO BE PUBLIC.

AS WE SAID, WE CHANGED SOME STANDARDS REGARDING CURB AND GUTTER.

THERE WERE REALLY CONFUSING WITHIN THE CODE AND REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHERE THE AVERAGE LOT FRONTAGE IS LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET.

WE ALSO PUT IN A PROVISION REALLY FOR HIGH VOLUME SUBDIVISION ROADS OR LONG SUBDIVISION ROADS OR THINGS THAT WE EXPECT THAT THE VEHICLE, UM, TRAFFIC PER DAY WOULD EXCEED 2000 VEHICLES PER DAY.

WE WANTED TO PROMOTE WHAT PEOPLE REFER TO AS

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IT'S REALLY A NO LOT FRONTAGE ROAD.

WHAT THIS DOES IS CREATE LESS CONFLICT, PEOPLE BACKING OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAYS ONTO A ROAD.

UM, WE ENCOURAGE LOT BUFFERING.

IT CREATES BETTER ALTERNATIVE DIRECTION.

I MEAN, CONNECTIONS BETWEEN DEVELOPMENTS KEEPS PEOPLE OFF OF THE CORRIDORS.

YOU CAN TRAVEL FROM NEIGHBORHOOD TO NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, SO WE THINK THIS IS A, A REALLY GOOD MEANS OF ENSURING, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL.

SO AS PART OF THE ESTABLISHMENT OF NEW PUBLIC ROAD DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, WE ORIGINALLY WERE PART OF THIS CONSIDERATION WAS THE ORIGINAL DESIRE TO NOT HAVE EVERY LOT AND LOT OF DEVELOPMENTS HAVE FIRE LANE SIGNS ALL AROUND THEM.

UH, WE WANTED TO ENCOURAGE THE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PARK ON THE STREET PART OF THESE DIVINE STANDARDS WOULD MAY REQUIRE A LITTLE BIT WIDER RIGHT AWAY THAN WAS PREVIOUSLY EXPECTED, BUT IN EXCHANGE, WE'RE ABLE TO DO THOSE THINGS.

THE EXPECTATION ALSO IS THAT SIDEWALKS WILL BE WITHIN RIGHT AWAY.

WE DID PROVIDE SPECIFIC FIGURES IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE RELATED TO DIFFERENT AREAS TO INCLUDE ROAD ALLEY AND INTER INTERSECTION DETAILS.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE FOR THOSE.

I WOULDN'T TRY TO READ IT ON THE SCREEN, BUT REALLY AS AN IDEA IS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE EXPECTATION IS THERE.

WE ALSO SHARED IT WITH THE COMMUNITY VDOT AND, UM, BENCHMARK OTHER LOCALITIES.

SO WAY BACK IN NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, DID HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

UH, THERE WAS VOTED WITH A, UM, APPROVAL OF FIVE TO ZERO AND NO ONE SPOKE AT THE HEARING.

HOWEVER, PART OF THE WAY THE PROCESS HAD GONE FORWARD, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY FELT LIKE THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO SPEAK WITH STAFF.

WE, OF COURSE, AFTER THAT WE DID MEET WITH THEM.

UM, WE RESPONDED TO THE THREE EMAILS THAT RECEIVED AS WELL.

UM, WE PROVIDED RESPONSES BACK TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WE MET.

AND A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE CONCERNS THAT CAME UP, A LOT OF IT WAS CLARIFYING.

WELL, THAT'S ALREADY A STANDARD AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THAT OR, UM, ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

THEY WORK WITH US WONDERFULLY.

UM, SO SINCE THE PRE THE, THE PC, A LOT OF THINGS TO CHANGE.

I'LL GIVE A QUICK LITTLE SORT OF IDEA, SOME OF THE BIGGER THINGS.

UM, WE DID REVISE THE ARTERIAL COLLECTOR BUFFERS.

WE ALSO ALLOWED FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EASEMENT ENCOURAGEMENT INTO THE BUFFERS BY RIGHT, THAT PREVENTS DAMAGE ALLOWS FOR ESPECIALLY PUBLIC UTILITIES TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME BACK AND ADD A LINE INTO PLACE.

PROVIDE FOR EXCEPTION FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO, OF COURSE THE BUFFERS.

WE UPDATED OUR TIA, UM, REQUIREMENTS TO INCLUDE AN OPTION FOR US TO EVALUATE THE POD STAGE BASED UPON DATA.

THINGS HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY.

WE UPDATE OUR TYPICAL ROAD SECTIONS FOR THOSE FIGURES.

WE ALSO PROVIDED NOW, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, UPDATED ROAD REQUIREMENTS FOR THREE TO FOUR LOT SUBDIVISIONS AND THEN DISCUSS THEM WITH THE BOARD.

WE WANT TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL, UM, COUPLE LOT EXCEPTION, UH, FOR FAMILY SUBDIVISIONS.

WE SETTLED AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS SIX.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S CHANGED, AND THAT'S BEEN BACK AND FORTH SEVERAL TIMES AS WE'VE TALKED UP HERE, IS WHAT'S THE PROPOSAL FOR LEFT TURN LANES FOR MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS? UM, AGAIN, MAJOR SUBDIVISION IS, THOSE ARE FIVE LOTS OR MORE.

UM, THE PROPOSAL THAT'S BEFORE EACH NIGHT IS, IS 10 OR MORE LOTS WOULD REQUIRE IF THEY'RE ON AN ARTERIAL OR COLLECT A ROAD, WOULD REQUIRE LEFT TURN LANES BE PROVIDED.

UH, OUR PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, IF SOMEBODY'S ALREADY IN THE SYSTEM, THEY'RE ALREADY ACTIVELY DEVELOPING THEIR THING, THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT STAFF'S, GIVEN THEM SOME COMMENTS.

WELL, WE PUT IN A, A PROVISION THAT, UM, THE ORDINANCE IS EFFECTIVELY MEETING FOR, FOR EVERYONE.

HOWEVER, IF YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, UNDER REVIEW, UH, AS OF TODAY, THEN YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO STILL CONTINUE UNDER THE EXISTING ORDINANCE.

UM, THAT'S IF THEY, WHAT WE CONSIDER ACTIVE IS IF THEY'VE BEEN BEFORE US IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS WORKING IT TYPE THING.

UM, OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, IF THE APPLICANT CHOOSES, THEY CAN STILL PROCEED UNDER WHAT YOU'RE ADOPTING TONIGHT.

THEY MAY HAVE A BENEFIT TO THEM CERTAIN WAY, SO WE'D EXPECT THEM TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS.

IF THEY DO SO, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND REVISE THEIR, THEIR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, IN THE PROCESS.

UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF OF COURSE IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT LIKE THIS A LOT AND I APPRECIATE THE BOARD AND, UM, COMMISSION AND, AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WORKING THROUGH WITH STAFF AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

THANK YOU MR. CASH.

ANY ON ROOM FELLOW SUPERVISORS? MR. CHAIRMAN? MR. CASH? COULD, COULD WE REVISIT SLIDE 12? I, I, I JUST, UM, UNDER THE LEFT TURN LANES AND WE'RE USING THE WORD FOR MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS OF 10 OR MORE LOTS ARE, ARE WE CHANGING THE DEFINITION OF MAJOR SUBDIVISION FROM FIVE TO 10? NO, IT'S JUST THAT THE REQUIREMENT ONLY WOULD KICK IN FOR TURN LANES AT 10.

SO MAJOR SUBDIVISIONS.

I WAS, IT WAS A GRAMMAR LESSON.

NO PROBLEM AT GRAMMAR.

LESSON FORM.

YEAH, I NEED A, I'M NOT SURE RIGHT ? THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR.

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THANK YOU MR. CASH.

UH, SEEING NONE, UH, NO MORE COMMENTS.

I WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SUPERVISORS, I'M GEORGE MAHONEY.

I LIVE AT 3 25 WICKHAM GLEN DRIVE IN THE COUNTY.

UM, I'M A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION FOR WICKHAM GLEN.

WE FILED WRITTEN COMMENTS AHEAD OF THIS MEETING.

I ONLY WANT TO UNDERSCORE ONE THING.

OUR COMMENTS INVOLVED.

THE PROPOSED CHANGED FOR LEFT TURN LANES AND AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, THE REQUIREMENT FOR LEFT TURN LANE THAT'S ON THE BOOKS NOW, UH, BECAME EFFECTIVE IN 2020.

AND AS WE'VE NOTED IN OUR COMMENTS, GLAND ALONG WITH NEW KEN COUNTY HAS LED THE RICHMOND REGION AND POPULATION GROWTH SINCE 2020.

OUR COUNTY'S POPULATION GREW SIX 6% BETWEEN 2020 AND 2022, AND IT GREW ANOTHER 4% JUST LAST YEAR.

THAT'S PER, UH, TIME DISPATCH ARTICLE THAT I ATTACHED TO OUR COMMENTS WITH MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ON OUR ROADS.

THE LAST THING WE SHOULD BE THINKING ABOUT IS A LEFT TURN ORDINANCE CHANGE THAT WILL IMPACT THE SAFETY OF OUR CITIZENS.

MORE GROWTH SURELY WILL FOLLOW.

AND WE ASK THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER NOT JUST PRESENT ROAD CONDITIONS, BUT ALSO WHAT WE CAN NO DOUBT EXPECT.

IT WILL BE FURTHER GROWTH IN THE COUNTY OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

PLEASE DO NOT MAKE CHANGES THAT WILL DIMINISH ROAD SAFETY.

THE CURRENT FIVE HOUSE ORDINANCE SHOULD REMAIN IN PLACE JUST AS IT IS.

THANK YOU MR. MAHONEY.

MY NAME IS MITCHELL BODE AND I'M PRESIDENT OF BOONE HOMES.

BOONE HOMES OFFICE IS LOCATED AT 62 BROAD STREET ROAD IN CENTERVILLE.

WE'VE BEEN A PROUD GLAND BASED HOME BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY FOR 36 YEARS.

OVER 36 YEARS, MYSELF AND OTHER INDUSTRY REPRESENTATIVES HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND ROAD DESIGN CHANGES WITH COUNTY STAFF FOR OVER EIGHT MONTHS NOW.

WHEN THE ORDINANCE CAME BEFORE THE BOARD IN MARCH, WE BELIEVED WE HAD WORKED OUT A COMPROMISE WITH STAFF THAT THAT GOT THE COUNTY THE DESIRED OUTCOME, WHICH WE WERE TOLD WAS WIDER ROADWAY WITS TO ALLEVIATE CONCERNS RELATED TO STREET PARKING AND BLOCKING OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

THE ORDINANCE THAT'S NOW BEEN DEFERRED TWICE NOW DUE TO THE ADDITION OF TURN LANES IN EXCESS OF FIVE LOTS.

NOW 10.

WHILE IT HAS BEEN ARGUED THAT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE ALREADY HAS THIS TURN LANE REQUIREMENT OR A REQUIREMENT FOR AN EXCEPTION, THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THAT THE COST OF A TURN LANE CAN WORK ON A DEVELOPMENT OF A SMALLER SCALE THAN 20 LOTS, EVEN AT 20 LOTS.

THE TURN LANE COST WOULD STILL BE TOUGH TO MAKE WORK IN THE LOCAL MARKET UPDATE RELEASED AT THE END OF MAY BY RICHMOND ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS.

GLAND COUNTY HAS A YEAR TO DATE SINGLE HOME MEDIAN SALES PRICE OF 643,000 AND AN AVERAGE SALES PRICE OF 813,000.

THESE COSTS FAR EXCEED THE MEDIA AND AVERAGE SALES PRICES IN YOUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES.

AND THE COUNTY IS POTENTIALLY PASSING OR AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD COMPOUND THIS ISSUE.

ALL THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ROADWAY WIDENING AND TURN LANES ARE ULTIMATELY PASSED ON TO THE CONSUMERS AND THE COUNTY'S RESIDENTS.

FOR THE CONSUMERS, THE COST WILL SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE THE COST OF NEW HOMES MAKING EVEN MORE BUYERS UNABLE TO AFFORD TO BUY NEW HOMES FOR RESIDENTS.

THE OVERALL COST OF HOMES WILL INCREASE DUE TO LACK OF NEW SUPPLY AND THEREBY THEIR REAL ESTATE TAX ASSESSMENTS WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE FROM THE ARGUMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD.

ALL THIS IS BEING DONE IN THE NAME OF SAFETY.

WHILE H BAR IN THE BUILDING COMMUNITY WILL ALWAYS PROVIDE SUPPORT PROVIDING SAFE COMMUNITIES, THE OVERALL COST OF OF THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED.

IF SAFETY WERE THE ONLY CONSIDERATION FOR BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD ONLY BE BUILDING HOMES OUT OF CONCRETE STEEL AND COMMERCIAL GRADE GLASS AND VERY FEW PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD A NEW HOME.

THE INDUSTRY SUPPORTS THIS ORDINANCE, AS IT WERE, WAS PROPOSED WITH A MINIMUM RETURN LANE TO 20 LOTS.

UNLESS IT IS WARRANTED BY A VDOT TRAFFIC STUDY, I ASK THAT YOU EITHER PASS THE ORDINANCE WITH THIS MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OR FIND ANOTHER SOLUTION THAT WOULD KEEP THE COST DOWN SPECIFICALLY DURING THIS TIME OF, OF THE HOUSING AFFORDABILITY CRISIS.

A LEFT HAND TURN AND UH, YOU KNOW, BEING A EXTENDED TO IS, ARE WE TALKING 20? ARE WE AT 10 OR WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT LEFT HAND TURN ONLY? I, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT IT WAS FOR PRIMARY ROADS LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, FAIRGROUNDS ROAD AND, AND OTHER BIG MAJOR ROADS, UM, WHERE THERE'S LOTS OF TRAFFIC COMING.

THANK LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD, MANNEQUIN SABBATH.

I AM CONCERNED WITH THE DIFFERENT ROAD CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

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YOU KNOW, UH, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S AN ADDITIONAL COST, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAJOR ROADS, YOU KNOW, FAIRGROUNDS ROAD, UM, RIVER ROAD, ALL THOSE ROADS THAT HAVE A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF CARS COMING DOWN THEM AT A ENORMOUS SPEED.

UM, THAT THAT'S TRAVELING DOWN THESE ROADS.

WE'RE NOT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE ONES THAT ARE, UH, NOT MAJOR ROADS, ARE WE, I MEAN, I'M, PLEASE EXPLAIN IT TO ME.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE DIFFERENCE, UH, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN A COLLECTOR ROAD AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT THESE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS OF ROADS ARE BECAUSE I'M CONFUSED AND, AND IF I'M CONFUSED, SO ARE A LOT OF OTHER, UM, CITIZENS ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS.

UM, UH, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL ROAD RATHER THAN ASSIGNING, UH, UH, 10 OR ARBITRARY AMOUNT, UM, THAT, THAT THAT IS REQUIRED, UH, FOR IT.

UM, I DON'T LIKE HOUSE PRICES BEING ANY MORE THAN THE, THE REST OF US.

UM, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, I THINK SAYING THAT WE REALLY DON'T WANT A LEFT HAND TURN.

WHEN I HEAR, HEARD O CLEARLY OVER, UH, IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UH, ONE OF THE PLANNERS SAY THAT ON FAIRGROUNDS ROAD, IF THEY TAKE OUT THAT LEFT HAND TURN, UM, IT'S GOING TO CREATE A REAL PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE.

I'M ASKING YOU TO KEEP IT AT FIVE.

THERE'S ALREADY EXCEPTIONS THAT THAT ARE IN PLACE TO IF FOR THEM TO APPLY FOR.

SO WHEN THESE WAIVERS COME UP, YOU NEED TO GIVE THEM SERIOUS CONSIDERATION BECAUSE THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO DOING TURN LANES.

THANK YOU MS. MOORE.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.

LOUISE THOMPSON, 1930 SOLDIERS LODGE ROAD.

AND THIS I DO HAVE A CONCERN FOR.

I APPRECIATE THE WORK OF STAFF.

THEY'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB AND THE BOARD, YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES AND GIVEN IT CAREFUL CONSIDERATION, I ALSO APPRECIATE I'M A GOAND, UM, RESIDENT AND I APPRECIATE GOOSE AND STAYING RURAL 85 15.

THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO WANT.

CLOSE THE GATE.

DON'T LET ANYBODY ELSE COME IN.

UM, BUT THE, AND I APPRECIATE THE COMPREHENSIVE STUDY THAT'S BEEN DONE OVER THE MANY MONTHS ON THIS ORDINANCE.

SOME OF THE CHANGES WILL GREATLY IMPACT EXISTING LARGE LANDOWNERS.

AND THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN IS.

MANY PARCELS HAVE BEEN KNOWN FOR GENERATIONS AND COUNTLESS DECADES.

I SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS THE RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANE ISSUE.

THERE WILL BE MANY CASES WHERE ENTRANCES DON'T HAVE THE REQUIRED LAND TO DO A TURN LANE.

THEY MAY MEET ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS, THE SITE DISTANCE, THE TRAFFIC COUNTS, AND ALL OF THAT MIGHT BE FINE EXCEPT FOR THE ACQUISITION OF LAND TO DO A TURN LANE, IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE.

WE'VE GOT LOTS OF PARCELS THAT ARE LARGE PARCELS, EVEN 50, A HUNDRED ACRE PARCELS THAT HAVE A SMALL ENTRANCEWAY AND SMALL INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANNA SELL THEIR LAND AND GIVE UP THEIR HOME SITE TO BUILD THIS PERSON'S TURN LANE.

SO THAT'S AN ISSUE THAT'S GONNA COME UP, I THINK IN MANY CASES IN THE FUTURE.

UM, SO THE NECESSARY LAND AND EASEMENTS MAY NOT BE AVAILABLE FROM OTHER SURROUNDING PARCELS.

I URGE THE BOARD IN THE FUTURE TO CAREFULLY CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL WAIVERS OF THESE RESTRICTIONS THAT MAY ARISE IN THE FUTURE.

OTHERWISE, THE LAND VALUES WILL CONTINUE TO CLIMB AS LESS LAND BECOMES AVAILABLE.

MAKING HOME OWNERSHIP EVEN MORE UNREACHABLE.

WE ALL WANT MODERATE PRICED HOUSES.

WE ALL WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IT WON'T BE POSSIBLE IF WE HAVE A SERIES OF SMALL LOTS, ONE LARGE LOT WITH A VERY MASSIVE HOUSE ON IT THAT'S NOT CREATING AFFORDABILITY.

IT COULD EASILY REDUCE THE LAND VALUE OF MANY CURRENT OWNERS AND CREATE A COUNTY OF SMALL FAMILY PARCELS AND A PATCHWORK GRID OF HOMES.

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THANK YOU MS. THOMPSON.

ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE COMMENTS.

MR. CASH OR ANY OTHER STAFF UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? ANYTHING YOU HEARD? UM, UH, THAT'S PART OF THE CHANGE TO THE ORDINANCE.

WE DO RECOGNIZE THE, UH, TO ANSWER THE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS OF ROAD, BOTH, UH, OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN AS WELL AS, UH, VDOT CLASS THAT HAVE DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROADS.

UH, SPECIFICALLY WHAT'S WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR TURN LANES IS WHAT THEY CONSIDER A COLLECTOR ARTERIAL ROADS.

THOSE ARE ONES THAT COLLECT NEIGHBORHOOD TRAFFIC OR YOUR MAJOR ARTERIAL SUCH AS TWO 50, UM, FAIRGROUNDS ROAD, UM, IS ACTUALLY A MINOR ARTERIAL, RIGHT? UM, AND SO THOSE ARE ROADS THAT ARE REALLY THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC AND THAT'S WHERE THE TURN LANE PROVISIONS ARE REQUIRED.

LOCAL ROADS, THERE IS A PROVISION, BUT YOU GOTTA GET TO PAST 40 LOTS FOR YOU TO, TO GET TO THAT.

AND THAT TYPICAL SCENARIO WOULDN'T OCCUR ON A LOCAL ROAD.

UM, AS FAR AS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE STANDARDS, I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SHARED WITH THE BOARD, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, UH, YOU THINK OF OUR AGRICULTURE A ONE PROPERTIES, TYPICALLY FOUR LOTS OR FIVE LOTS, YOU KNOW, THE ORDINANCES CURRENTLY.

AND WOULD, YOU KNOW, UNLESS WE CHANGE CONTINUE FOR THOSE NINE SUBDIVISIONS OR SMALL SUBDIVISIONS, YOU COULD LIKELY HAVE TURN LANES IN SOME OF OUR RURAL AREAS.

UM, THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

BUT THAT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR THE, FOR THE BOARD.

UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I DO APPRECIATE H BAR'S COMMENTS AS WELL WORKING WITH US.

THAT STAFF DID PROPOSE AT ONE POINT 20 AFTER DISCUSSION WITH THEM AND AN ANALYSIS FOR THAT.

BUT, UM, THEN WE'VE GONE TO FIVE AND 10 OR, UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS A, IF THE BOARD HAS QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ANY OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORDINANCE OR COMMENTS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYMORE.

COULD YOU HAVE QUESTION? YEAH.

I'M SORRY, MR. CASH.

I THINK, I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE YOU LOST ME THERE.

UM, OKAY.

AT THE, WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT THE RURAL MM-HMM.

SO I WOULD IMAGINE MOST OF OUR RURAL AREAS, LIKE IN, IN CHRISTIE, MY DISTRICT, A LOT OF THOSE AREN'T GOING TO BE MAJOR ROADS.

BUT YOU, YOU'RE IN YOUR EXAMPLE, YOU SAID YOU'D HAVE FOUR OR FIVE, YOU MIGHT REQUIRE A TURN LANE, BUT I THOUGHT THEY WERE EXEMPT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T MAJOR ARTERIALS.

NO.

IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER 2 56 HAYESVILLE, FIFE, UM, CARTERSVILLE, THOSE ARE ALL ONES THAT ARE CLASSIFIED, UH, AS, UH, COLLECTORS OR ARTERIALS ACCORDINGLY FOR THOSE.

AND SO OFF OF THOSE ROADWAYS, WHICH IS TYPICALLY WHERE YOU HAVE THE LARGE TRACKS, SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE THE FIVE, YOU KNOW, IF A FIVE LOT FOUR, I MEAN BASICALLY MORE THAN FOUR COMES IN DIVISION, WE WOULD HAVE TO REQUIRE THE LEFT TURN LANES, UM, OR FOR THAT, UH, RIGHT TURN LANE.

SO APPLY FOR A MAJOR SUBDIVISION.

SO ANYTIME THAT MAJOR SUBDIVISION CLICKS WHEN YOU HIT THE FIVE, UM, THE LEFT TURN LANE WOULD BE REQUIRED.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE REFERENCING.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, MR. YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN? UM, IT'S BEEN MENTIONED A COUPLE OF TIMES, WAIVERS, UH, UNDER THE 2020 ORDINANCE THAT'S IN PLACE NOW.

, UH, WAIVERS ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE DISCRETION OR THE ANALYSIS OF THE BOARD.

HAVE WAIVERS BEEN GRANTED UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE? WE HAVE AUSTIN'S EXPERT ON THAT PART.

? YEAH, FOR THE RECORD, AUSTIN GOING COUNTY ENGINEER.

UM, THERE HAVE BEEN THREE WAIVER REQUESTS BEFORE THE BOARD.

ONE WAS ULTI ULTIMATELY WITHDRAWN.

UH, THE BOARD DID GRANT.

THE OTHER TWO LEFT TURN LANE WAIVERS, ONE FOR A SEVEN LOT SUBDIVISION ON HERMITAGE ROAD AND THE OTHER FOUR, A 15 LOT, UH, INDUSTRIAL SUBDIVISION ON PONY FARM ROAD.

THOSE ARE THE TWO WAIVERS GRANTED FROM 2020 TO NOW.

SO WE'RE BATTING A THOUSAND ON GRANTING WAIVERS WHERE IT MAKES SENSE.

WOULD THAT BE ANOTHER WAY OF PUTTING IT? OF THE TWO THAT WERE FOLLOWED THROUGH? YES.

THE BOARD DID GRANT BOTH.

THEN MR. THE BOARD, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION IF IT'S APPROPRIATE.

MR. I'M GONNA GO TO MS. SPOON.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE ACCESS MANAGEMENT AND ROAD STANDARDS AS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND, SECOND DISCUSSION? UH, YEAH.

MR. WHOOPS.

I DIDN'T HEAR IT, MR. LAW.

THAT EVERYTHING HAS A COST.

UM, UH, AS ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE AWARE, THIS HAS BEEN A, UH, TOPIC OF SOME DISCUSSION WITH ME.

AND, AND, UH, I, I, I AM COMING BACK TO THE SAFETY ISSUE.

UH, ONE, I DID GET TO SIT IN THE CITIZEN SHEET SEATS AND WATCH THE, WHAT I CALL 23 BOARD, ENACT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE.

AND, AND SAFETY WAS ONE OF THEIR CONCERNS.

UM, AND, AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE

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I MEAN, UH, SAFETY ISN'T FREE.

UH, BUT I, I'M JUST HESITANT SEEING US EXPAND AND, AND REALLY ABDICATE LOCAL DECISIONING TO VDO.

I MEAN, IF VDOT WARRANTS, SAY A TURN LANE IS A LEFT TURN LANE IS REQUIRED, THEN, THEN IT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

RIGHT NOW WHAT WE HAVE IS WE PUT DECISIONING BACK AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS, HAS PUT SAFETY, UH, LEFT TURN LANES AT, AT, UH, THE TOP OF THE LIST.

AND, UH, AND YET WE ARE ABLE TO GRANT WAIVERS, WHICH WE JUST HEARD WE HAVE DONE TWICE WHEN THE TWO CAME BEFORE US.

UH, SO I'M, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE'RE SAYING VDOT, YOU DECIDE FOR US AND JUST IN TODAY'S TRANSPORTATION, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, WELL, HOW MUCH INFLUENCE DO WE HAVE OVER THINGS THAT VDOT HAS CONTROL OVER? AND THE ANSWER WAS PRECIOUS LITTLE.

AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO KEEP THAT CONTROL HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.

UM, AND, AND SO I'M, I'M ENCOURAGED.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US KEEP IT AT FIVE.

IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING, WAIVERS ARE BEING GRANTED WHEN, WHEN REQUESTED, AND THEY MAKE SENSE.

UH, SO IF, IF MR. SPOON, I AND MR. UH, WINFREY WOULD ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, I WOULD, UH, BE HAPPY TO OFFER IT THAT WE KEEP THE TURN LANES AT FIVE AS OPPOSED TO MOVING TO 10, THEY OFFER AMENDMENT.

I I, WELL, I, I WANNA WATCH PROTOCOL 'CAUSE I, I HAVEN'T DONE THIS BEFORE, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M DOING IT PROPERLY.

I MEAN, I, I BELIEVE I HAVE TO ASK THE MAKER OF THE MOTION IF HE WOULD ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT.

IF NOT, I'LL WON'T TRESPASS ON HIS TIME.

UM, PROCEDURALLY, MS. MEU THAT, OR, OR WOULD THERE BE A SUBSEQUENT MOTION? THEY CAN, UM, IF, IF A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WERE MADE, IT WOULD BE, UH, APPROVED BY THE MAKER AND THE SECONDER, HOWEVER, UH, MR. LYLE HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND THE PENDING MOTION, AND THAT WOULD THEN BE SUBJECT TO A SECOND AND, AND, AND A VOTE BEFORE YOU WOULD GO BACK TO THE ORIGINAL MOTION.

IF THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WAS MADE AND THE MOTION FAILED BASED ON THE AMENDMENT, WOULD THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE THEN FAILED? AMENDMENT FAIL? I'M DEFER TO HER.

I'M SORRY.

LEMME, OH, SO MY QUESTION WAS, IF WE, IF THE MO, IF THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT WITH THE FIVE, UM, THE, THE LIMIT OF FIVE FAILS, OR IF, IF IT'S, IF IT'S, IF THE VOTE GOES AGAINST THAT WITH THE, THAT THAT MOTION WITH THE AMENDMENT FRIENDLY, THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE WOULD FAIL, CORRECT? YEAH.

THE, THE CLEAREST WAY TO GO FORWARD IS TO HAVE A SEPARATE MOTION TO AMEND AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT PASSES.

BECAUSE THAT LEAVES THE UNDERLYING ORIGINAL MOTION STILL PRESENT IF AN AMENDMENT MOTION HAS FAILED.

'CAUSE IF WE VOTED ON IT, OTHERWISE IT'S ALL TOGETHER.

NOW.

WE KILL THE WHOLE MOTION.

MR. LAU, IF YOU WANT TO DO SO, YOU MAY MAKE AN AMENDMENT.

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND AND I, I, I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE WORKING RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE AS THIS BOARD.

SO I, I WOULD PREFER TO JUST ASK IF HE WOULD ACCEPT A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

IF HE DOESN'T, THEN WE'LL PROCEED WITHOUT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.

I WANNA KEEP IT FRIENDLY.

SURE.

UM, SO I I I'M NOT GONNA DO A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND I, I, I'M HAPPY TO EXPLAIN WHY.

THAT I WAS NOT IN SUPPORTIVE OF AT THE BEGINNING.

UM, THIS, THIS IS INTERESTING BECAUSE YOU HAVE FOLKS SAYING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH, AND SOME FOLKS SAYING WE'RE DOING TOO MUCH, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THE, YOU KNOW, THE PORT IS TOO HOT, THE PORT IS TOO COLD, KIND OF THING.

BUT, UM, I DON'T SEE US ADVOCATING ANY AUTHORITY WHATSOEVER.

WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO DECLINE ANY CASE THAT WE DON'T SEE AS, AS SAFE.

AND WHAT WE'VE, IN MY OPINION, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN SIGNALING TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WELL, I HEAR OUR CITIZENS LOUD AND CLEAR THAT WE WANT TO KEEP IT RURAL.

THEY'RE FINE WITH EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE HOUSE PRICES 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY HERE.

UM, AND THAT'S WHAT I GET TOLD.

I DON'T LIKE IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M TOLD.

UM, SO THEY'RE FINE WITH THE INCREASE OF COST, BUT AT SOME POINT, I'VE GOTTA THINK MORE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, I'VE GOTTA THINK 15, 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WHEN DEVELOPERS DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING.

UCHIN COUNTY.

'CAUSE WE'VE MADE IT SO RESTRICTIVE.

SO HAD I NOT, HAD I NOT FELT LIKE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE TOOLS AT ALREADY, WHICH IS WE COULD DECLINE ANY CASE, UM, THAT BECOMES BEFORE US THAT WE DON'T SEE AS SAFE.

SO I DON'T SEE THAT AS ADVOCATING AT ALL.

AND I ALSO SIGNAL TO OUR PARTNERS IN THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE WILLING TO, UH, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK AND, AND SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GOOD PLACE TO DO BUSINESS.

UM, ON TOP OF THAT, AND, AND IT'S, NO, IT'S PROBABLY NO SECRET.

I WAS NOT A FAN OF THIS ORDINANCE AT ALL.

UM, THE WIDENING OF THE ROADS I THINK IS A BIG DEAL AND IT'S GONNA ADD MORE COST.

SO THERE, THERE'S A LOT IN THIS, IN THIS ORDINANCE

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BUT HAVING GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, I, I'VE, I'VE COME TO, UM, I'VE COME TO APPRECIATE WHERE WE, WHERE WE'VE LANDED.

THANK YOU, MR. SPOONER, MR. CHAIRMAN.

MR. SPOONER, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING WE STILL RETAIN THE RIGHT TO DO A WAIVER OF VARIANCE.

CORRECT? APPLICANT'S APPLICANT NOT WA APPLICANT'S WILL HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO A WAIVER.

APPLICANT'S CAN ASK FOR IT, AND IT IS THE BOARD'S POWER TO GRANT IT, APPROVE IT.

UH, UNDER THE PROPER CONDITIONS AND SO FORTH.

SO THAT, THAT, THAT IS TRUE.

ALTHOUGH I DO BELIEVE THAT, UM, I BELIEVE WHEN YOU PUT SOMETHING ON PAPER OR IN A COMP PLAN, IT'S, IT, IT CARRIES MORE WEIGHT.

WRONG OFTENTIMES, BUT OUT OF MANY COMES WISDOM.

SO, I I, I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS A GOOD COMPROMISE CONSIDERING THAT THIS ONLY APPLIES TO HEAVILY TRAVELED ROADS.

IF, IF WE WERE TO KEEP IT AT FIVE, WOULD WE NOT BE INCENTIVIZING TO DEVELOP THE OVERDEVELOPMENT ON THE LESS TRAVELED ROADS THAT CAN'T HANDLE THE TRAFFIC? WHAT I THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET, MR. CHRISTIE, IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE NOT WANTING TO DO SUBDIVISIONS AND ROADS LIKE WHITEHALL ROAD.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FIVE DRIVEWAYS INSTEAD OF ONE.

THAT'S WHAT I THINK IS GONNA HAPPEN, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE, WE'RE WE'RE DISINCENTIVIZING SUBDIVISIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE RURAL AREAS.

IF YOU GO DOWN WHITEHALL ROAD, NOW YOU SEE SHARED DRIVE, WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, SHARED DRIVEWAYS, YOU'RE SEEING RATHER THAN HAVING ONE WAY IN AND OUT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SEEING SEVERAL, WHICH I THINK IS, I, I DON'T THINK IS AS, AS AS, I DON'T THINK IT'S SAFE, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S AS GOOD OF A PRODUCT AS WE WANT.

AND I WILL, I WILL COMMENT THAT I DO NOT FEEL THAT THIS IS ANY SORT, ANY, BY ANY MEANS, AN ABDICATION OF OUR AUTHORITY TO, UH, AS, AS A COUNTY TO VDOT.

UM, AND JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT MR. SAUER SAID, BECAUSE I THINK HE SAID ADVOCATING WHEN HE MEANT ABDICATE A BDI, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE MEAN, THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO, UH, SAY.

AND, AND THAT MIGHT HAVE JUST BEEN ACCENT OR SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS CLARIFIED BECAUSE HE MADE HIS POINT VERY CLEAR.

AND I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE MISCON.

NO, NO.

I DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE MISCONSTRUED BECAUSE THE REST OF THE POINT WAS AWESOME.

UM, BUT I JUST DIDN'T WANT IT TO BE MISCONSTRUED.

UM, AND I DON'T, I DO BELIEVE THIS HAS COME ABOUT NOT WITH ANY SORT OF CERTAINLY NO RUSH, AND CERTAINLY NO LACK OF DELIBERATION.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING THAT HAS BROUGHT TOGETHER A LOT OF THOUGHT, A LOT OF OPINION, A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND NEGOTIATION AND, UM, AND WITH A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF OPENNESS AND WILLINGNESS FROM, FROM MULTIPLE PARTIES TO CONTRIBUTE AND OPINE.

SO, UM, I DO, UM, SUPPORT MR. THE, THE, UH, CURRENT MOTION THAT HAS A SECOND.

AND, UH, SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

MR. FOX, I DID WANNA BRING UP WHAT YOU, YOU, YOU RAISED A, AN EXCELLENT POINT AS WELL.

UM, AND I WANT TO TALK, MR. MAHONEY MENTIONED OUR GROWTH.

AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SIT UP HERE AND WE PUT THESE THINGS, AND AGAIN, WORDS MATTER.

THESE ARE LAWS, BUT AS YOU COULD SEE, I, I THINK WE HAVE SOME OF THIS GROWTH BECAUSE OF THE WORK THIS BOARD DOES.

THE THE BOARD DOESN'T PIGEONHOLE ITSELF.

SO IF WE DO SOMETHING AND THERE ARE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, IT CAN ALWAYS BE UNDONE.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE'RE DOING THAT CAN'T, CAN'T BE CHANGED.

WE, WE THINK THAT IT'S GONNA BE A FOREVER SOLUTION.

BUT OFTENTIMES IN EVEN MY SHORT FOUR AND A HALF YEARS, WE'VE REVERSED THINGS THAT WE, WE GOT WRONG.

BUT, UM, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF STUDY AND EFFORT THAT, AND, UM, COLLABORATION THAT'S GOTTEN INTO THIS, THAT THIS IS, WE'RE IN A GOOD PLACE.

I, I, SINCE WE'RE GOING BACK, SINCE WE'RE PING PONGING, I WILL ADD ONE MORE THING.

UM, THIS IS THE MORE I'VE SLEPT ON THIS ISSUE, AND THE MORE DISCUSSIONS I'VE HAD, THE MORE I'VE REALIZED, I THINK NOT NOTHING FITS.

THE STATEMENT GLAND IS UNIQUE.

UH, QUITE LIKE THIS PROPOSAL IS WE ARE GOING TO SEE WAIVERS.

INEVITABLY, WE ARE GOING TO DELIBERATE ON FUTURE CASES.

INEVITABLY, THAT IS JUST THE NATURE OF BEING A UNIQUE COUNTY.

AND, UM, FITS OUR TAGLINE, UH, OR AT LEAST OUR ADOPTED TAGLINE VERY, VERY WELL.

UM, WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GIVE SOME GUIDANCE THAT WORKS WITH A BROADER COMMUNITY AND GIVES, UH, A, UH, A A BETTER OUTLINE OF WHAT IS NEEDED TO DO BUSINESS, CONDUCT BUSINESS, AND WORK WITH GLAND COUNTY.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

I, I, I, YOU CAN'T LET THIS GO WITHOUT SAYING HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE THIS EXCHANGE AND THIS BOARD.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE STRENGTHS IS THAT WE HAVE A VARIETY OF PERSPECTIVES AND, AND INPUT.

AND, UH, I DON'T QUOTE SCRIPTURE WELL, 'CAUSE I GET IT

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AND, AND SO WHEN WE HAVE A COLLECTIVE DECISIONING PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO JUST A SINGLE, I, I, I THINK, UM, NONE OF THE DECISIONS ARE GONNA BE PERFECT.

BUT I I THINK THAT THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR MAJORITY RULE.

I I I AM, UH, AS CURRENTLY, I GUESS I'M TIPPING MY HAND.

I, I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS AND IT'LL APPEAR I'M AGAINST THE WHOLE SHOOT MATCH.

BUT I, I SINCERELY BELIEVE THAT WHAT WE HAVE NOW REALLY DOES WORK.

IT HAS THE WAIVER OPPORTUNITIES.

IT, UM, PROVIDES US, I THINK THAT, UH, LOCAL DECISIONING ON, ON SAFETY ISSUES.

AND, AND SO, UH, I WOULD NOT WANT MY NAY VOTE TO BE MISCONSTRUED AS I THINK THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WITH MANY GOOD POINTS TO IT.

AND STAFF, UH, MR. CASH, THERE HE IS.

UH, THIS HAS BEEN A LABOR OF LOVE.

I THINK ELEPHANTS STAY PREGNANT FOR 22 MONTHS.

THIS IS GOING ON 24.

SO, UH, THIS, THIS REALLY HAS A, A VERY SLOW EVOLUTION AND I SO APPRECIATE IT.

AND I'VE WATCHED IT FROM THOSE SEATS AS WELL AS NOW HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY UP HERE.

SO, UH, MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE COMMENTS YOU'VE SHARED.

UM, I THINK WE'RE, UH, GOING TO POLITELY AGREE TO DISAGREE WITHOUT BEING DISAGREEABLE, BUT, UH, I REALLY DO THINK THAT THE CURRENT FIVE REQUIREMENT SERVES THIS COUNTY WELL.

AND, AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THOSE THOUGHTS.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION, MR. WINFREY? MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I JUST WANT TO ADD TO WHAT YOU, YOU WERE SAYING, AND, UM, MS. THOMPSON MENTIONED THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GOAL TO REMAIN RULE AND AGRARIAN 85 15.

UM, TO ME, THIS IS A COMPROMISE.

IT, UM, IT SENDS, IT, IT DOESN'T SEND THE SIGNAL THAT WE ARE AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, BUT IT DOES SEND THE SIGNAL THAT WE'RE NOT OPENING UP THE FLOOD FLOODGATES.

AND, UM, SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE.

AND, UM, I KNOW MR. CASH, YOU ARE GLAD TO SEE THE BIRTH OF THAT ELEPHANT , NOT A ROUGH LABOR.

NOT, NOT WITH ANY PARTISAN, UH, .

UM, OKAY.

UM, ANY, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION FROM THIS DAY IS BEFORE WE GO CRAZY? UH, ANY, OKAY.

HAVING A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, MS. G BI, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE? MR. FA HOWARD? YES.

UM, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM FIVE ON OUR PUBLIC AGENDA HEARING, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA.

UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE ITEM, UM, CU 2024 DASH NINE APPLICATION BY ATLANTIC TOWER, LLC, REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, ALSO KNOWN AS A CUP FOR TELECOM TELECOMMUNICATION TOWER ON 25.66

[5. District 1 - CU-2024-00009 Application by Atlantic Tower, LLC requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for a telecommunication tower on 25.66 acres on Cartersville Road approximately ½ mile south of its intersection with Saint Pauls Church Road on Tax Map No. 38-1-0-99-0. The property is zoned Agricultural, General (A-1). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-102 in accordance with Sec. 15-288.B. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]

ACRES ON CARTERSVILLE ROAD, APPROXIMATELY ONE HALF MILE SOUTH OF ITS INTERSECTION WITH ST.

PAUL'S CHURCH ROAD.

ON TAX MAP NUMBER 38 DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 99 DASH ZERO, THE PROPERTY ZONE AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, A ONE.

THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15 DASH 1 0 2 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 15 DASH 2 88 B.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.

MS. JAMIE SHERRY WILL PRESENT THIS CASE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE SPARSELY DEVELOPED.

OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS A REQUEST IN DISTRICT ONE FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A COM UH, COMMUNICATION TOWER ON CARTERSVILLE ROAD.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE SOUTHWESTERN AREA OF THE COUNTY, SOUTH OF RIVER ROAD, ALONG ON CARTERSVILLE ROAD.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE AERIAL, THE 26 ACRE LOT IS PRIMARILY VACANT.

THE RED SQUARE WITHIN THE PROPERTY IS A LOCATION OF A SMALL CEMETERY.

DEVELOPMENT INCLUDES LARGE RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND FORESTED LAND.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL GENERAL, AS ARE THE PROPERTIES IN ALL THE OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.

THE 20 20 20 35 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA AS ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST IS FOR A SINGLE LATTICE STYLE COMMUNICATION TOWER.

IT WILL BE A MAXIMUM OF 99 FEET

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IN HEIGHT.

THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WILL PERTAIN TO A 75 BY 75 LEASED AREA WHERE THE TOWER WILL BE LOCATED.

THE TOWER WILL HOLD ANTENNAS FOR A MAXIMUM OF FOUR CARRIERS, AND THE TOWER WILL NOT BE LIT.

THE RED CIRCLE ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE PRO PROPOSED LEASE AREA.

THE BLUE LINE SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE ACCESS ROAD FROM CARTERSVILLE ROAD.

AND AS I POINTED OUT IN THE AERIAL PHOTO, THE RED SQUARE IS THE CEMETERY LOCATION PER ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS, THE FALL ZONE IS COMPLETELY WITHIN THE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES.

THERE WAS A BALLOON TEST BACK IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR.

PHOTOS WERE TAKEN FROM TWO LOCATIONS ON CARTERSVILLE ROAD VIEW.

ONE, UM, IS TAKEN AT THE 1700 BLOCK OF CARTERSVILLE ROAD.

IT SHOWS THE BALLOON FLOAT IN THE FIRST PICTURE AND A SIMULATION OF WHAT THE TOWER WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, IN THE SECOND.

THE SECOND VIEW IS A SIMULATION OF THE TOWER FROM THE, FROM THE 1600 BLOCK OF CARTERSVILLE ROAD.

THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

THE USE IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION.

A COMMUNITY MEETING WAS HELD IN FEBRUARY.

SUPERVISORS, CHRISTIE, AND STAFF WERE THE SOLE ATTENDEES.

STAFF HAS RECEIVED NO COMMENT ON THIS APPLICATION AT THE MAINE PLANNING COMMISSION.

PUBLIC HEARING.

THE APPLICATION WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH A FIVE ZERO VOTE.

NO ONE SPOKE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THE FOLLOWING IS A SUMMARY OF THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.

THERE IS NO DEVIATION FROM OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS FOR COMMUNICATION TOWER.

HOWEVER, I DO HAVE THE FULL CONDITIONS LISTED ON SEPARATE SLIDES.

IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE ME TO VIEW, UH, REVIEW THEM IN THEIR ENTIRETY.

CONDI CONDITIONS INCLUDE, UH, THEY ALLOW FOR THE USE OF A COMMUNICATION TOWER ON THE PROPERTY.

THE TOWER MUST BE LOCATED AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

GENERALLY SHOWN, A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT WILL BE REQUIRED PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION.

THE USE MUST BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL FAA AND FCC REGULATIONS.

THE BASE OF THE TOWER MUST BE FENCED FOR SECURITY.

THE TOWER MUST NOT BE, MUST BE NON-REFLECTIVE.

THE BASE OF THE TOWER MUST BE BUFFERED WITH NATURAL VISITATION.

THE CONDIT, THE CONDITION GOES ON TO SAY THAT IF SUPPLEMENTAL PLANTINGS ARE REQUIRED, THEY WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, INSTALLED AND MAINTAINED THAT THE COUNTY HAS THE RIGHT TO FIRST REFUSAL TO CO-LOCATE ON THE TOWER.

THAT THE CONSTRUCTION MUST BEGIN WITHIN 200 YEARS, THAT AN INTERNAL ACCESS ROAD MUST BE BUILT AND MAINTAINED PER FIRE, RESCUE AND, UM, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT THE TOWER MUST BE REMOVED WITHIN 90 DAYS OF CEASING OF OPERATION.

I KNOW I WENT THROUGH THOSE CONDITIONS RATHER QUICKLY.

AS I MENTIONED, I DO HAVE THEM IN THE SLIDES.

UM, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN.

AND THE APPLICANT IS ALSO IN ATTENDANCE.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU JUST RESTATE ONE ITEM, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY.

IT MUST BE CONSTRUCTED WITHIN TWO YEARS.

YES, CORRECT.

I, I I HEARD 200.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

I MAY HAVE SAID 200.

I WAS BEING GENEROUS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM YES.

I, I THINK I'VE INTERPRETED THIS, BUT COUNTY COLLECTION MEANS CODE LOCATION.

SO, UM, WHEN THE, UM, TOWER IS CONSTRUCTED, UH, THE COUNTY GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOCATE ON, LOCATE SOME OF OUR COMMUNICATION, UM, DEVICES ON THE TOWER, AND WE GET THE, UH, THE FIRST CHANCE TO REFUSE IT.

AND IF WE REFUSE IT, THEN THEY CAN FILL IT UP WITH OTHER CARRIERS.

SO, SO I, I'M JUST, NOW I'M CURIOUS, WHY DO WE CALL IT COLLECTION? OH, IT'S CO-LOCATION.

OH, MAN, I'M HAVING TROUBLE.

IT SAYS COLLECTION.

OH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

STUPID.

UH, SPELL CHECK.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE ION.

ANY, ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS, MS. SHERRY? OKAY.

SEEING, THANK YOU.

, MS. SHERRY.

SEEING NO MORE QUESTIONS.

I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SEE NO QUESTIONS.

I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.

UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES, I MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED, THE DISTRICT ONE CU 20 24 0 0 0 9 APPLICATION BY ATLANTIC TOWER, LLC.

THANK YOU, MR. CHRISTIE.

THROUGHOUT, UH, THE CARTERSVILLE AREA.

DISCUSSION? ANYONE? YEAH, I'VE GOT SOMETHING.

MR. CHRISTIE? UM, YEAH, THIS IS WELL NEEDED

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UH, WHILE CAMPAIGNING, I HAD ABSOLUTELY NO SERVICE, NO GPS, NOTHING.

CONS, UH, CONSTITUENT WORK.

MR. VANHOWER? ABSOLUTELY.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION POINTS OR QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU, MS. SCVI, WOULD YOU TAKE THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? MR. CHRISTIE? YES.

MR. LONG? YES.

MR. WINFREY? YES.

B FOR A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE.

MR. YES.

WONDERFUL.

WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX OF OUR PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA.

UM, THIS IS ALSO IN DISTRICT ONE, UH, APPLICATION CU DASH 2024 DASH 10 APPLICATION BY BRADLEY AND DONNA REYNOLDS REQUESTING TO AMEND CONSTITUTIONAL USE PERMIT CU DASH 2016 DASH EIGHT

[6. District 1 - CU-2024-00010 Application by Bradley and Donna Reynolds requesting to amend conditional use permit (CUP) CU-2016-00008B for a public assembly place to add unhosted short-term rental, winery on less than 50 acres, and accessory public assembly uses on 23.07 acres at 5061 Broad Street Road on Tax Map Nos. 5-1-0-61-0 and 5-1-0-61-C. The property is zoned Agricultural, General (A-1). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-102 in accordance with Secs. 15-281.F, 15-285.G, and 15-290. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]

TO ADD UNHOSTED SHORT-TERM RENTAL WINERY ON LESS THAN 50 ACRES.

AND ACCESSORY PUBLIC ASSEMBLY USES ON 23.07 ACRES AT 5 0 6 1 BROAD STREET ROAD.

ON TAX MAPS NUMBERS FIVE DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 61 DASH ZERO, AND FIVE DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 61 DASH C.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL GENERAL A ONE.

THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15 DASH 1 0 2 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTIONS 15 DASH 2 81 F 15 DASH TWO 80 5G AND 15 DASH TWO 90.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.

MS. JAMIE SHERRY, WE'LL PRESENT THIS CASE.

THANK YOU MR. BATS.

EVENT CENTER, THE APPLICANT IS ACTIVELY PURSUING A FARM WINERY LICENSE FROM THE STATE.

OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IS ALSO IN DISTRICT ONE.

IT IS AN APPLICATION BY IAN HEMP STOCK FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A GUNSMITH SHOP.

HELLO? OH, WELL, NEVERMIND.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

LEMME PULL UP MY, YEAH, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

HUH? MR. MR. HEADSTOCK AND FAMILY.

I'M AFRAID YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO WAIT JUST A MOMENT.

FORGIVE ME.

OKAY, LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN.

THANK YOU, MR. VOS.

UH, YES.

OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS ALSO IN DISTRICT ONE, IS AN APPLICATION BY DONNA AND BRADLEY REYNOLDS TO AMEND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR BANDITS RIDGE, A PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY TO AMEND THE CONDITION PERTAINING TO THE NUMBER OF EVENTS FOR THE PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY TO ADD SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED, AND TO CREATE A WINERY ON LESS THAN 50 ACRES.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BROAD STREET ROAD AND THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL, A MAJORITY OF THE 23 ACRE LOT IS FARMLAND WITH A DWELLING AND EVENT VENUES CLUSTERED TO THE SOUTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

THE AREA IS SURROUNDED BY FARMLAND AND LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL GENERAL AS ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, AND EAST.

THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST IS ZONED RURAL RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS THE SHELTON CREEK SUBDIVISION.

THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA, AS ARE ALL THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

SO, A QUICK HISTORY ON THE EXISTING CUPA CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WAS APPROVED IN 2016 FOR A PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY.

THE PERMIT WAS RE RENEWED IN 2017, AND AGAIN IN 2022.

THE CURRENT PERMIT IS SCHEDULED TO EXPIRE IN JUNE OF 2032.

THE PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY A ALLOWS FOR WEDDINGS, PARTIES, AND SIMILAR EVENTS.

THE CUP ALLOWS FOR A MAXIMUM OF 150 GUESTS AT ONE EVENT AND ONE EVENT PER DAY.

THEY DID HAVE A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT APPROVED IN 2016, WHICH WILL ACT AS EXHIBIT A.

THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ADD SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED, UM, AS A USE FOR THE EXISTING DWELLING STANDARD CONDITIONS WOULD APPLY, AND THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY WOULD BE 10 GUESTS.

THE PICTURES SHOWED THE DWELLING AND THE POOL IN THE BACKYARD AREA.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO PROPOSING TO ADD A, THE USE OF A WINERY TO THE C-U-P-A-C-U-P IS REQUIRED FOR PROPERTY.

UH, FOR A WINERY.

WHEN A PROPERTY IS LESS THAN 50 ACRES, A TASTING ROOM IS PERMITTED WITH A WINERY AND WILL BE LOCATED IN AN EXISTING BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY USED.

AS PART OF THE

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THE IS PROPOSING TO AMEND THE PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF EVENTS PER DAY FROM ONE TO TWO EVENTS.

AND THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO ALLOW OUTDOOR MUSIC UNTIL 7:00 PM SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE OUTDOOR MUSIC AT THE TASTING ROOM.

UH, THE PICTURE ON THE SLIDE IS THE OUTDOOR AREA OF THE TASTING ROOM.

THE SITE PLAN ON THE RIGHT OF THE SCREEN IS TAKEN FROM THE EXISTING PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS EXHIBIT A.

THE BUILDINGS ON THE LEFT ARE TO BE USED AS PART OF THE CEP ACTIVITIES.

THE LARGE VENUE BARN AT THE TOP IS PART OF THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE.

AND THE SMALL VENUE AT THE BOTTOM WILL BE LOCATED, UM, WILL BE THE LOCATION OF THE TASTING ROOM.

THIS SLIDE, OOPS, EXCUSE ME.

THIS SH SLIDE SHOWS PROXIMITY TO, UH, THE CLOSEST RESIDENCE TO THE STRUCTURES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CUP ACTIVITIES.

THE CLOSEST HOUSE IS 100 FEET DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR, AND THE CLOSEST HOUSES IN SHELTON CREEK SUBDIVISION ARE APPROXIMATELY 1300 FEET AWAY.

THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD IN MARCH ONE, NEIGHBOR ATTENDED, AND NO CON CONCERNS WERE RAISED AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING AT THE MAY PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION REC RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION WITH A FIVE ZERO VOTE, AND NO ONE SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND ONCE AGAIN, I DO HAVE THE FULL CONDITIONAL USE SLIDES, UH, CONDITIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PERMIT AND, UH, SLIDES.

SO I CAN GO THROUGH THEM IN THEIR ENTIRETY OR ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU DO HAVE.

BUT HERE IS A, UM, A SUMMARY OF THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS USE.

UM, ALL USES ARE GOING TO BE CONDENSED INTO ONE PERMIT.

SO THERE'S THE, THE ACTUAL, UM, CONDITIONS THEMSELVES.

THERE'S A, A LOT OF STRIKE THROUGH BECAUSE WE HAVE CURRENT BROUGHT THEM UP TO CURRENT, UH, STANDARD CONDITION LANGUAGE, UM, FOR THE PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY.

THEY ARE REQUESTING, THE ONLY CHANGE THEY'RE REQUESTING IS THE NUMBER OF EVENTS PER DAY THAT WOULD BE GOING FROM ONE TO TWO FOR THE WINERY TASTING ROOM.

UH, THEY ARE REQUESTING HOURS OF OPERATION, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, THEY'RE, UH, HOURS OF OUTDOOR MUSIC FROM, UH, SUN, UH, THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY, 11 TO 7:00 PM THE PACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY AND WINERY WOULD ALLOW FOR A COMBINATION OF, OF BOTH USES TO STILL BE A MAXIMUM OF 150 GUESTS, UH, FOR BOTH USES IF THEY WERE TO BE OCCURRING AT THE SAME TIME.

UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED, THOSE ARE THE STANDARD CONDITIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE.

UH, WHICH INCLUDE LIKE THE USE OUTDOOR SOUND HUNTING, NO HUNTING, FIREARMS, UM, UH, LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF GUESTS AND THE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS AND THE NOTICE TO TELL THE GUEST OF THESE CONDITIONS.

THE EXPIRATION FOR THIS USE IS SET FOR JULY, OH, EXCUSE ME.

UH, YEAH, JULY, 2034.

THAT WAS A QUICK RENDITION OF THE, UM, CONDITIONS.

I'D BE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THOSE IN MORE DETAIL, OR I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS.

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND HAS A PRESENTATION.

UM, MR. LONG QUESTIONS, MS. SHERRY, MS. SHE, UM, I REMEMBER THIS ORIGINAL CUP AND THERE WAS EXTENSIVE DISCUSSION ON SUBWOOFERS, WHICH EVIDENTLY IS, IS AN IMPORTANT THING.

UH, I DID NOT NOTICE WITH THE OUTDOOR TASTING ROOM.

IS THERE ANY LIMITATION ON SUBWOOFER MUSIC? OR IS IT'S, UM, EVIDENTLY THAT MAY SOUND CARRY.

NO, SIR.

THERE IS NOTHING IN REFERENCE TO THE OUTDOOR SOUND.

THERE IS FOR THE PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY, UM, MUSIC, BUT THERE IS NONE IN, UM, IN THE OUTDOOR SOUND.

I WOULD, I I WOULD JUST ASK THE CLARIFY IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE SUMMARY SLIDE.

ABSOLUTELY.

IT DOES SAY LANGUAGE HAS CHANGED TO STANDARD CONDITIONS.

IT WOULD BE STANDARD LANGUAGE RELATED TO SOUND AS EVERYONE ELSE HAS TO ABIDE BY.

CORRECT.

THAT, UM, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE THAT WE HAVE HAD, I CAN HELP HERE.

WE GO THANK YOU.

IN THE PACKET WHERE YOU HAVE OUTDOOR, SO THE SUB ARE PROHIBITED FOR THE OUTDOOR SOUND, HOLD ON.

BUT THAT IS ONLY UNDER THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE.

OH, YEAH.

FOR THE OUTDOOR SOUND.

SO THAT CONDITION IS NOT APPLICABLE AS YOU GET TO THE TASTING ROOM.

TASTING ROOM.

DUPLICATED, BUT AS IT IS TODAY, IT APPLIES TO THE PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE IN CONDITION 17.

IF THE CONDITION ON OUTDOOR SOUND SHOULD APPLY TO ALL USES OR TO BOTH USES, IT COULD BE MOVED OR

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AND MR. CHAIR? YES.

UM, OH, WAIT A MINUTE.

CONDITION 24, RIGHT? SORRY.

CONDITION 24 HAS THE EXACT SAME SOUND CONDITION RIGHT UNDER IT.

OH, PROHIBITING SUBWOOFERS.

AND THAT'S UNDER THE TASTING ROOM THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.

AND THEN TWICE IT WAS MENTIONED THAT AT THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS OR STAFF MEETINGS, OWNERS' PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY.

WAS THAT ANSWER? I'M SORRY.

WELL, THE QUESTION WAS WHAT WERE THE OWNERS' PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY, BUT THEN THERE WAS NO MENTION OF WHAT THEIR PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY WAS.

SO, I, I, I, FORGIVE ME.

SO THIS WAS OUT OF THE COMMUNITY MEETING, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? UH, YEAH.

I CAN'T FIND IT AGAIN ON WHAT SLIDE IT WAS.

BUT YOU WENT BACK THERE AND IT SAID, UM, AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, PEOPLE ASKED, UM, OKAY, THERE IT IS.

ATTENDEES DISCUSS THE APPLICATION AND THE OWNER'S PLANS FOR THEIR PROPERTY.

AND THEN EARLIER, EARLIER ON IT ASKED THE SAME QUESTION AND I DIDN'T SEE ANY ANSWER.

WELL, FOR, UM, I WAS NOT AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING.

I DO KNOW THAT AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, THE A I THINK, YOU KNOW.

OH, YEAH, MR. MR. CHRISTIE WAS THERE.

UM, WITHDRAW THAT APPLICATION.

THEY, THEY HAD PLANS TO SUBDIVIDE, BUT IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY HAD ABANDONED THIS PLAN.

YES, THEY DID.

IT WAS ASKED QUESTION WITH NO ANSWER.

THAT WAS THANK YOU, MR. CHRISTIE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, MS. MOORE? ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU, MS. OF COURSE.

UM, I WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? YEAH.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH, THE APPLICANT DOES HAVE A PRESENTATION.

HAVE REQUESTED SOME OF YOUR TIME.

THERE YOU GO.

THAT'S FORWARD AND THAT'S BACKWARD.

AND THAT IS A POINTER IF YOU NEED IT.

GREAT.

I'LL BE CLOSE BY IF YOU NEED HELP.

AGAIN, DUAL PURPOSE, HAPPY HOURS FOR WEDDINGS.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT BRAD AND DONNA REYNOLDS, 5 0 6 1 BROAD STREET ROAD.

UM, HOPEFULLY THIS WILL ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE IN, IN, IN YOUR MINDS BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR DECISION.

UH, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE ACTUAL KIND OF EVENT PLACES ON OUR PROPERTY, UM, WITH OUR EXISTING CUP.

UH, THE WINE TASTING ROOM ISN'T, WE'RE NOT STARTING FROM SCRATCH.

UH, ALL THE FACILITIES ARE, ARE, ARE IN PLACE.

IT'S REALLY A CHANCE FOR US TO EXPAND HOW MANY DAYS WE OPERATE ON THE PROPERTY.

WE'RE ALSO TAKING INTO ACCOUNT NEIGHBORS.

UM, AGAIN, WE'RE OPENING AT 11, CLOSING AT SEVEN.

UH, WE'RE GONNA BE CLOSED EARLY.

WE'RE NOT GONNA BE OPEN LATE AT NIGHT.

UH, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THE MUSIC, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

SUBWOOFERS WILL NOT BE THERE.

IN FACT, MOST OF THE TIME OUTSIDE IT'LL BE LIKE ACOUSTIC GUITARS.

I MEAN, PEOPLE DON'T WANT LOUD MUSIC, JUST ENJOYING THE DAY.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PLAN FOR THAT.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE LARGE BARN, THE SMALL BARN.

UH, WE'RE GONNA SEE MORE OF THAT IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES.

UM, TALKING ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S ALREADY IN PLACE, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES, UH, THE BARNS.

BUT THERE'S ALSO, YOU SEE THE BIG PATIO OUTSIDE OF THE, OF THE SMALL BARN PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO SIT AND MINGLE, ENJOY THE DAY.

ALSO IN FRONT OF THE SMALL BARN OUT IN, IN PADDOCK, THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO SIT.

SO WE HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM, NOT ONLY FOR PEOPLE TO COME, BUT PEOPLE TO ENJOY THE DAY.

UM, THERE'S ALSO GRAVEL PARKING LOT THAT HOLDS 35 CARS.

BEYOND THAT, THERE'S ANOTHER PARKING LOT THAT HOLDS ANOTHER 55, 60 CARS.

SO AGAIN, WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO, TO DO THIS.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT EXPANDING OUR OPTIONS FOR FOLKS, UH, TO DO THAT.

UH, ONE OTHER POINT I'LL MAKE IS OUTSIDE, UH, IS THAT LITTLE SHACK KIND OF DOWN THERE IN THE LEFT, KIND OF HALFWAY IN THE LEFT.

THAT'S THE, THE FIREWOOD STACK.

IN THE FRONT OF THAT IS A, IS A LARGE FIRE PIT.

AGAIN, CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR, AGAIN, JUST PLACES THAT PEOPLE CAN HANG OUT.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A LOT OF GRASSY AREAS.

WE SET UP CORNHOLE BOARDS, OUTDOOR GAMES.

SO AGAIN, WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO, TO BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THIS, UH, INSIDE THE SMALL BARN WHERE, UH, THE, IT'LL BE THE PRIMARY PLACE FOR THE WINE TASTING ROOM.

WE JUST RENOVATED THIS IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS.

THERE USED TO BE THREE STALLS DOWN THE LEFT SIDE.

WE TOOK ALL THAT OUT.

UM, DID A LOT OF WORK IN THERE TO, TO MAKE IT REALLY PRESENTABLE.

WE ALSO USE THIS FOR WEDDINGS.

THIS IS KINDA LIKE THE COCKTAIL HOUR PLACE THAT, THAT PEOPLE GO IN.

THE PLAN IS WHERE THAT MIDDLE TABLE IS ON THE LEFT, UNDER THE THREE BIG LIGHTS.

WE'RE CONSTRUCTING A BAR THAT WILL SIT THERE WITH REFRIGERATORS BEHIND IT, NATURALLY TO KEEP THE WINE COOL.

AND

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IT'LL BE THE WINE TASTING ROOM AS WELL.

AND SHE TALKED ABOUT, UH, DOING TWO EVENTS A DAY.

THE IDEA ISN'T TO DO TWO WEDDINGS A DAY.

THE IDEA IS TO DO TWO SMALL PARTIES.

AND NOW WITH THIS FUNCTIONAL SPACE, WE CAN DO ONE IN HERE AND ONE IN THE SM IN THE LARGE BARN, SAME TIME STILL BELOW THAT 150 MAX OF PEOPLE, UH, JUST TO PEEK INSIDE A LARGE BARN.

UM, IT, IT SEATS 150 PEOPLE COMFORTABLY.

UH, THIS BARN DOES HAVE AC AND HEAT.

UH, PEOPLE LOVE THE OUTDOORS, BUT THEY ALSO LOVE THEIR AC AND HEAT.

SO, UH, IT, AND IT ALSO, THE, THEY, THEY LOVE RESTROOMS AS WELL.

SO THIS, THIS BARN HAS TWO RESTROOMS, UH, OUT OUTSIDE THE, THE SMALL BARN LOOKING DOWN TOWARDS THE FIELD.

UH, SHE TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, THE FARM WINERY PERMIT.

LONG TERM.

THAT'S OUR GOAL.

THERE'S A LOT OF KIND OF WORK AND PREPARATION THAT GOES INTO THAT.

PART OF IT'S PLANTING AT LEAST THREE ACRES OF VINEYARDS.

AND, UH, SO WE'RE EXPLORING THAT NOW ON COST, ON WORK, WORKLOAD, UH, JUST ALL THAT STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT.

SO THE, THE PLAN IS NOW IS TO, TO GET UP AND RUNNING FASTER.

WE'RE GONNA APPLY FOR VIRGINIA A, B, C TO GET A RESTAURANT LICENSE.

AND THAT WAY WE CAN SELL BY THE GLASS AND ALSO BOTTLES TO GO OUT OF, OUT OF THE BARN.

AND THEN LONG TERM, HOPEFULLY GET THE FARM WINERY PERMIT.

'CAUSE THAT GIVES US FLEXIBILITY ON SOME OTHER THINGS TO DO THERE.

UM, SOME OTHER THINGS, UH, WE'D LIKE TO DO IN THAT 10 ACRES OUT THERE IS PLANT WILDFLOWERS.

AGAIN, ALL THIS IS REALLY TO ENHANCE THE WEDDING AND THE VENUE BUSINESS.

SO HOW DO WE TIE ALL THAT TOGETHER IN A, IN A COHESIVE WAY? UM, A SMALLER PICTURE OR, OR AN UP UPDATED PICTURE OF OUR, KIND OF OUR COURTYARD.

THE TOASTY HITCH IS OUR OUT SILVER BAR.

AGAIN, DEPENDING ON THE CROWDS, WE HAVE, UH, TWO DIFFERENT PLACES THAT WE CAN, WE CAN SERVE FROM.

AND JUST THIS AREA IS JUST A GREAT PLACE TO HANG OUT AND HAVE, HAVE A GOOD TIME.

AND THEN JUST A COUPLE PICTURES, UH, WE TOOK IT AT, AT A LOCAL WINERY IS HOPEFULLY THIS IN A COUPLE YEARS, THIS WILL BE PLANTED AT OUR, IN OUR FACILITY.

AND THEN EVERY A COUPLE YEARS, HOPEFULLY IT LOOKS LIKE THIS AND WE CAN ACTUALLY START, START HARVESTING IT.

BUT WE HAVE WORKED WITH, UM, SOME LOCAL WINERIES.

THE IDEA TOO IS TO, UM, PICK WINERIES FROM DIFFERENT, OR PICK WINES FROM DIFFERENT WINERIES.

AND THEY WOULD ACTUALLY, WE BUY 'EM WHOLESALE.

UH, WE WOULD HAVE OUR OWN BANDITS RIDGE LABEL ON THE BOTTLES SO WE CAN SERVE THOSE SELL AT WEDDINGS AND, AND ALL THAT TOO.

SO AGAIN, JUST TRYING TO COMBINE ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ON THE PROPERTY, UH, MOVING FORWARD.

UM, THE LAST PIECE IS THE, THE, UH, AIRBNB ON THE HOUSE.

UM, THAT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS TOO.

'CAUSE NATURALLY WE, WE NEED A PLACE TO, TO GO TO.

AND THAT, UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IDEAS.

UH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

WE'RE LOOKING AT, I MEAN, DO WE PUT A TINY HOUSE OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF, OR TO THE EDGE OF THE FIELD? THERE'S SOME IDEAS WE'RE FLOATING AROUND, BUT JUST TRYING TO THINK LONG TERM AND HOW TO FIGURE ALL THIS OUT.

ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OF US? I I, I ADMIRE YOUR INITIATIVE AND ENTHUSIASM AND ENERGY AND YOU MIGHT WANNA DOUBLE IT.

'CAUSE FARMING IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART.

UM, I, I DO KNOW, AND THIS MAY BE MS. MCGEE'S QUESTION, BUT UNDER STATE CODE, A WINERY, A FARM WINERY HAS BY RIGHT.

CERTAIN THINGS THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO.

AND, AND, UM, I, I DO NOT HAVE THOSE MEMORIZED.

BUT I'VE WORKED WITH ENOUGH OF THE WINE INDUSTRY TO KNOW THAT THERE IS A BENEFIT FOR BEING A WINERY BECAUSE THEY'RE HOURS OF OPERATION THERE.

THERE'S JUST CERTAIN THINGS THAT THEY ARE PERMITTED BY STATE CODE.

ARE YOU PROFFERING, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE UP SOME OF THOSE BUY RIGHTS THAT THE STATE OFFERS? AND I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO ACCEPT, WE WON'T FOLLOW STATE CODE, BUT I I I'M NOT AWARE OF WHERE YOU MIGHT BE IN CONFLICT OR, OR BE GIVING UP SOMETHING.

THE STATE SAYS YOU CAN OPERATE PAST SEVEN O'CLOCK, FOR EXAMPLE.

WELL, I THINK THE, THE ONLY, AND AGAIN, WE'VE, WE'VE TALKED TO THE STATE.

UM, I ACTUALLY KNOW SOME FOLKS OVER AT A BC, AND I THINK THE, THE ADVANTAGES ARE LIKE A RESTAURANT LICENSE.

THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FOOD YOU HAVE TO SELL A MONTH.

THE FARM WINERY PERMIT KIND OF, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE FOOD RATIO.

AND THE OTHER BIG THING FOR US IS THAT LITTLE TOI HITCH TRAILER, IT ALLOWS US TO REALLY TAKE THAT THING ANYWHERE IN VIRGINIA AND WE CAN SELL WINE OUT OF IT.

DOES THIS MEAN WEDDINGS WOULD CEASE AT SEVEN? NO, WEDDINGS WILL STILL BE, WE HAVE TILL 10 O'CLOCK, BUT THE, THE ACTUAL WINE TASTING ROOM WOULD STOP.

AT A FARMER'S MARKET AT A, I MEAN, ANYTHING WE WANT TO GO TO, WE CAN DO THAT.

SO THOSE ARE THE TWO BIG THINGS THAT I'VE TAKEN OUT IS THE ADVANTAGES.

OH, ALRIGHT.

I, I, AGAIN, I, I ADMIRE AND, AND APPRECIATE VERY MUCH ANY, THIS, THIS PLAYS INTO KEEP GUC AND RURAL.

SO THANK YOU.

[03:45:02]

OH, THE SEVEN WINE TASTING ROOM.

MR. CHRISTIE.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION OF YOU.

UM, AND I, I DON'T EXPECT AN EXACT ANSWER, JUST A GENERAL SWAG.

UM, THE NUMBER OF, UH, USERS OF YOUR VENUE THAT ARE IN THIS LOCAL AREA VERSUS OUTSIDE OF RICHMOND.

IF YOU JUST HAD TO ESTIMATE, SHE COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU BETTER THAN I CAN.

HI.

UM, THE MOST OF OUR GUEST, OR MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT RENT OUR FACILITY IS FROM LOUISA RICHMOND, CHESTERFIELD, AND MORE OF LIKE THE EAST COAST.

YEP.

WE'RE TRYING TO ATTACK INTO THAT CHARLOTTESVILLE TO GET, GRAB THOSE BRIDES.

BUT WHEN THIS STARTS REALLY TAKING OFF, THOSE WEDDINGS ARE GONNA GO BY THE WAYSIDE.

, I, I JUST MENTIONED IT BECAUSE I, I DO THINK THAT'S A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THING FOR RICHLAND COUNTY TO NOT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT A JUST STANDBY BY ITSELF BUSINESS.

, IT TRACKS THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, BENEFIT OUR HOTELS YEP.

OR LIMITED HOTEL OPTIONS, BUT OUR HOTELS, OUR RESTAURANTS, OR OTHER THINGS.

UM, AND SO THANK YOU.

BUT WE ALSO THINK THE WINE TASTING ROOM WILL ACTUALLY BRING MORE PEOPLE THERE.

AND PEOPLE CAN SEE, OH, YOU DO WEDDINGS OUT HERE.

AND THAT HELPS BOTH SIDES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

ANSWERING QUESTIONS.

UM, MS. SHERRY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? UH, YES SIR.

UM, I WANTED TO JUST MAKE IT, MAKE SURE IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE, UM, APPLICATION IN FRONT OF YOU ALL THIS EVENING IS FOR A WINE TASTING.

I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, A UM, A FARM WINERY UNDER 50 ACRES.

A RESTAURANT WOULD BE A SEPARATE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH THAT WHICH WAS NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION.

AND JUST SO THAT THE, UM, REYNOLDS KNOW THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO BE PERMITTED FOR A, UM, TINY HOUSE .

YOU CAN'T JUST PUT IT IN THE YARD.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE CLARIFICATIONS.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? OH GOSH, WE HAVE ANY TIME.

SORRY.

WONDERFUL.

UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

OF COURSE.

UM, I WILL NOW CLO OH, SORRY.

I WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SEEING NO MORE COMMENTS, I'LL NOT CLOSE THE FLOOR.

, THEY JUST WANTED ME TO DO THAT TWICE.

IF, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DO I HAVE A MOTION? YES.

ALSO MOVE DISTRICT.

TAKE MY THUNDER DISTRICT.

I'LL BE HAPPY.

A SECOND.

I, YES, I, I MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

CU 2 2 4 0 0 0 1 0 APPLICATION BY BRADY AND DONNA REYNOLDS REQUESTING TO AMEND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

CUPC 2 0 1 6 0 0 0 0 8 BRAVO FOR PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE, UH, TO ADD UN UNHOSTED SHORT-TERM RENTAL WINERY ON LESS THAN 50 ACRES.

AND SO ON ENTHUSIASTICALLY SECOND, YOU'LL MAKE 'CAUSE IT WAS SO ENTHUSIASTIC.

I'M GONNA TAKE MR. WINFREYS, UM, ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD? YEAH, I, I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T WANNA GET TOO DEAD IN THE WEEDS, BUT WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO CLARIFY THE, YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE RESTAURANT LICENSE THROUGH A B, C TO MOVE THINGS ALONG QUICKER? BECAUSE I, I HEARD THAT THERE WAS AN APPLICATION FOR A RESTAURANT LICENSE TO GET THE A, B, C STUFF QUICKER.

BUT THIS ISN'T A RESTAURANT.

I, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IMPACTS US AT ALL, BUT I KINDA SAW STAFF'S EYEBROWS.

I GET LIKE SOFTBALL.

UM, AND I GUESS PERSONALLY THAT, THAT SURPRISED ME A LITTLE BIT.

'CAUSE I GUESS I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE RESTAURANT WASN'T PART OF, BUT THE, THE FIRST IDEA WAS TO DO THE FARM WINERY PERMIT.

BUT KNOWING THAT IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO, TO DO THAT, YOU GOTTA GET EVERYTHING PLANTED IN THE GROUND BEFORE THEY EVEN COME OUT AND, AND ASSESS AND BE ABLE TO GRANT THAT.

SO, UM, I GUESS IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO DO THE RESTAURANT LICENSE, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT, WE'LL, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.

BUT I, I DIDN'T REALIZE IT WASN'T PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

PLEASE HELP.

THIS WAS NEVER AN APPLICATION FOR A, UM, FOR A RESTAURANT.

UM, NOT TO ADD TO ANY CONFUSION, BUT WHEN YOU DO HAVE A WINE TASTING ROOM THROUGH THE STATE, YOU ARE ALLOWED, THERE'S A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING THAT THROUGH V DACS YOU CAN SERVE PREPACKAGED FOODS AND, AND TH THOSE ARE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO.

AND THAT'S WHAT, UM, MR. REYNOLDS WAS, UH, STATING THAT THERE'S NO LIMIT THAT RATIO THAT THERE IS IN A RESTAURANT.

BUT NO,

[03:50:01]

SO THERE WILL BE FOOD, BUT IT WILL NOT VIOLATE ANY OF THE YES.

IN, IN ASSOCIATION WITH A WINERY.

ONCE THEY GET, THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR FARM WINERY IN ORDER TO OPEN THE TASTING ROOM AND THEN TO OFFER THAT PREPACKAGED FOOD.

THAT THIS DOES NOT PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT TASTING ROOM OPEN AT ALL UNTIL A FIRM WINERY IS APPROVED.

AND IS THAT IN LINE? I DID NOT REALIZE THAT.

BECAUSE THE, THE RESTAURANT LICENSE, I'M SORRY.

THE LICENSE, THE RESTAURANT LICENSE, AND ACTUALLY IT'S PART OF THE VIRGINIA A BC LICENSES AS WELL.

SO I, BUT A RESTAURANT HAS TO EXIST FOR THEM TO OFFER IT.

CORRECT.

NOW THERE'S A $2,000 A MONTH FOOD RATIO THAT YOU HAVE TO, BUT IT CAN BE ALL 'CAUSE MOST WINERIES JUST TO PREPACKAGED FOOD AND RIGHT.

IT'S, IT'S, YOU DON'T HAVE TO OPEN A FULL FLEDGED RESTAURANT.

I THIS IS THE, THIS OBVIOUSLY IT'S YOUR, YOUR APPLICATION.

BUT IT MAY BE WORTH US TAKING A MONTH OR TWO TO, TO, UNLESS YOU'RE COMFORTABLE REALIZING THAT.

'CAUSE IF YOU, WHAT YOU GO TO RESTAURANT, THERE'S, WE JUST KNOW WITH ANOTHER SIMILAR VENUE IN THE COUNTY THAT TRIED TO ATTACH A RESTAURANT TO THEIR, TO THEIR BUSINESS AND THE REQUIREMENTS FROM THE, UH, THE DIFFERENT HEALTH DEPARTMENTS ALMOST PUT 'EM OUT OF BUSINESS.

WITHOUT EVEN DOING THAT.

SO THERE'S A LOT THAT MIGHT GO INTO THAT, THAT RATHER THAN GETTING SOMETHING AND HAVING TO PAY YOU THE FEE AGAIN AND COME BACK, IF YOU WANT PAUSE FOR A MONTH OR TWO, I WOULD GIVE YOU THAT POTENTIAL OPTION.

I I WOULD RATHER DO THAT.

'CAUSE I THINK AGAIN, IT'S GONNA TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS OR A YEAR TO GET THE FARM WINERY PERMIT.

SO JUST MAKE SURE WE'RE DO YOU GOT YES.

EVERYTHING LINED UP? YES.

AND WE WANT TO HELP WITH THAT.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS SUCCEED.

, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE A SECOND ALREADY IN PLACE, DO WE NEED, GIVEN THAT WE HAVE THAT IN PLACE, DO WE NEED TO HAVE A VOTE OR CAN WE JUST PULL THAT MS. EE UH, IN ORDER TO PULL IT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PULLED BY THE MAKER AND THE SECONDER.

I MOVE TO RETRACT MY MOTION.

I RETRACT MY SECOND.

DO I HAVE AN ALTERNATE MOTION? WE'LL, HOLD, HOLD ON.

MS. SHERRY, DO YOU HAVE YOUR NO, IT WAS JUST WHAT, EXCUSE ME.

SORRY.

UM, PROCEDURALLY I WAS JUST WONDERING, UH, THIS IS, WOULD THIS WOULD THEN BE A REQUEST FOR A SECOND, A A DIFFERENT USE THAN WOULD, WOULD IS BEING HEARD FROM YOU TONIGHT? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS GIVE THE APPLICANT TIME TO ASSESS WHICH DIRECTION HE WANTS TO GO AND THEN, AND BEFORE WE, WE APPROVE OR DENY IT AND WE HAVE TO START OVER.

FAIR ENOUGH.

FAIR.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT FOR A RESTAURANT USE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING MS. MCGEE CAN, UM, BACK ME UP ON THIS.

IT WOULD REQUIRE, UH, ANOTHER, UH, COM COMMUNITY MEETING AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES.

AND HOW MUCH TIME WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE DEFERRAL? WELL, AND FOR STAFF TO, YEAH.

TO HOW LONG DOES HE WANNA REVIEW IT? AND THEN HOW LONG WOULD STAFF NEED IF THERE'S AN AMENDED APPLICATION COMMUNITY MEETING AND THEN LIKE YEAH, I THINK, UM, I WOULD SAY A MINIMUM OF TWO TO THREE MONTHS.

'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S THE APPLICATION TIME FOR THE A, B, C.

AND THEN, AND AND I THINK ON TOP OF THAT WOULD THEN BE THIS, THE STAFF TIME, UM, DOES HAVE TO BE READVERTISED.

YOU ALL COULD DECIDE WELL WE'RE, WELL WE'RE NOT SURE BECAUSE RIGHT, RIGHT.

THEY MIGHT TAKE THE PATH OF, WE MIGHT WIND UP RIGHT BACK HERE AGAIN IN TWO MONTHS AFTER WE DO SOME DISCOVERY.

DO WE DO A REFERRAL OR IT, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT, IT IS GONNA BE A WHOLE NEW CUP.

OR WELL, IT MAY NOT BE.

IF THE APPLICANT DECIDES THAT HE WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD AS THIS IS WRITTEN AND NOT PURSUE A RESTAURANT, THEN IT, THEN THE ONLY TIME I NEEDED IS THE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR HIM TO MAKE THAT DECISION AND THEN HAVE THIS ADVERTISED.

UM, IF HE, WHICH COULD BE DO THAT TWO OR THREE MONTHS, PROBABLY THREE TO GET THE AD IN THERE.

IF HE CAME BACK AT THAT TIME AND SAID, I WANT TO DO A RESTAURANT, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE AN ADDITIONAL DEFERRAL IN ORDER TO AMEND THE APPLICATION, DO THAT NOTICE AND, AND GET APPROVAL.

SO THREE MONTHS WOULD BE ENOUGH TO KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT I I I'M NOT GONNA PURSUE THE RESTAURANT.

COULD YOU PLEASE MM-HMM SAY YES OR NO TO THIS OR, UM, I'M GOING TO ASK FOR THE RESTAURANT.

I KNOW I NOW NEED TO HAVE, WON'T BE READY TO BE HEARD IN THREE MONTHS.

THAT'D BE THE WAY THAT WOULD GO.

JUST CLARIFICATION ON MY PART.

UM, COULD WE RULE ON WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT AND THEN ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK WHEN HE IS READY AND ABLE AND PREPARED TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT OR APPLY FOR A RESTAURANT?

[03:55:01]

WE COULD.

BUT THEN WHAT WOULD THAT HAVE? IT STARTS THE WHOLE PROCESS OVER AGAIN.

THERE'S THE APPLICATION FUTURE IS WHAT, A THOUSAND DOLLARS, 7 5700 $50 APPLICATION FEE.

UM, PLANNING COMMISSION.

WELL, THAT'S A DECISION YOU CAN MAKE.

YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS TO ME WE WERE READY A MOMENT AGO TO PROVE, APPROVE SOMETHING FOR YOU.

SO YOU COULD MOVE FORWARD.

AND IF IT'S UP IN THE AIR AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE EVER GOING TO A RESTAURANT, THAT'S UP TO YOU.

SO I GUESS WHAT WE WERE MORE CONCERNED WITH, SO IT'S NOT A RESTAURANT, IT'S A, IT'S WHAT THE A BC CLASSIFIES IT AS A RESTAURANT LICENSE.

BUT IT'S, WE DON'T HAVE A RESTAURANT.

BUT IT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE $2,000 WORTH OF FOOD.

BUT OUR, OUR PLACE WON'T HAVE A RESTAURANT.

IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE, WE HAVE WHAT WE'VE, I'VE WORKED WITH THE AG DEPARTMENT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIKE A THREE, UH, COMPARTMENT SINK.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PREP TABLE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE WASH STATIONS.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

SO THE RESTAURANT LICENSE IS MORE FOR A BC GUIDELINES, NOT FOR US COOKING FOOD IN THERE.

THAT'S ALL A, B, C.

THAT'S HOW THEY CLASSIFY IT AS.

BUT, BUT WHAT'S BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE A TASTING ROOM AT A FARM WINERY.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A TASTING ROOM UNDER, UNDER WHAT'S BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE FARM WINERY AND THEN YOU COULD DO THE TASTING ROOM, WHICH WOULD COME WITH THAT A, B, C LICENSE FOR THE PREPACKAGED FOOD.

BUT WHEN YOU SAY WE WANT TO DO, WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT DOING A FARM WINERY.

WELL NOW YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A TASTING ROOM IF YOU DON'T HAVE A FARM WINERY.

AND WE CAN'T PLANT UNTIL NEXT MAY.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHY WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT IF THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY TO BE ABLE TO DO A TASTING ROOM NOT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD, YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET A DIFFERENT PERMISSION UNDER ZONING TO DO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

SO DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS? THAT'S WHAT ONE OF Y'ALL HAD QUESTIONED.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID.

IS THAT, THAT YOU CAN DO THE RESEARCH YOU NEED TO DO TO FIND OUT WHICH AVENUE YOU WANT TO GO.

AND IF WE WIND BACK UP HERE, WE DO, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT, YOU KNOW, SO THE AVENUE WE HAVE TO GO WITH RIGHT NOW IS WITH THE RESTAURANT LICENSE FROM A, B, C UNTIL MAY WHEN WE GET THEM IN THE GROUND.

'CAUSE YOU CANNOT PLANT THEM NOW.

AND WE WANNA GENERATE SOMETHING.

SURE.

MR. CASH, DO YOU HAVE THOUGHTS? YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NODDING A LIE.

IF YOU COULD BE HELPFUL HERE.

I KNOW I JUST, I I GUESS PERHAPS I JUST WANTED TO, TO TRY TO CLARIFY, 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE WITH FARM MONITORING THAT THAT EXISTS ALREADY IN THE COUNTY.

SO THERE'S CERTAIN, UH, STANDARDS WITH THE FARM WEDDING, THE ASSOCIATED IS THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THE PREPACKAGED FOOD.

LIKE MS. MCGEE HAS BROUGHT UP, UM, WHERE WE WANTED TO CROSS THAT LINE AND SERVE MORE THINGS, UM, PREPARED FOODS OR, OR OTHER TYPE OF THINGS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THE FARM RUNNING, THEY WOULD BE CLASSIFIED.

WE'VE ADVISED THOSE BECAUSE YOU'RE ONLY LIMITED CERTAIN THINGS IN THAT TASTING ROOM.

UM, SCENARIO IF YOU DO MORE, THEN YOU ARE BECOME CLASSIFIED AS A RESTAURANT.

AND THAT'S JUST NOT FROM THE ABC STANDARDS.

IT'S, OR THE, THE V DAC STANDARDS.

'CAUSE THE, THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO PREPARE BY RIGHT.

OR HAVE READY FOR, UM, FIRM WINERIES, UM, IS ALSO OUR CODE.

IF YOU KNOW YOUR PURPOSES, YOU'RE SELLING FOOD NOT ASSOCIATED WITH ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, APPROVED USE, THEN IT'S, IT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A RESTAURANT.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, IF IT WOULD LIKE TO ADVISE YOU.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS WE DON'T WANNA HOLD YOU UP LONG-TERM FOR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

AND I THINK THE BOARD'S OFFERING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.

BUT WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE NEED TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO OR YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT OUR CONCERNS ARE.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THE OFFER WAS TO SAY, WE'LL TAKE A SHORTER DEFERRAL IF 60 DAYS TO DO THAT.

IT STILL GIVES YOU TIME FOR YOUR PLANNING AND EVERYTHING NEXT YEAR TO TALK.

IF WE FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO GO BACK BEFORE, UM, THE, THE BOARD OR A COMMUNITY MEETING, YOU'RE LIKE, OKAY, THAT'S WHAT YOU MEANT BY RESTAURANT OR WHAT WE DO, THEN WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING AND IT'D PROBABLY GO FROM 60 DAYS TO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT LATE FALL.

I MEAN, WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING TOWARDS DECEMBER BEFORE YOU CAN BE BACK WITH YOUR FULL RESTAURANT TYPE OF THING.

AND WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET WITH Y'ALL AND, AND CLARIFY WITH THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT'S, WELL WE DON'T, IF YOU DENY OR WE APP AND YOU COME BACK LATER, WE'D RATHER KEEP YOU IN THE PROCESS AND

[04:00:01]

SO ARE WE LOOKING AT 60 OR 90? I'M GONNA CLOSE THIS ONE SIMPLE QUESTION.

ARE THE APPLICANTS WILLING TO ENTERTAIN THE DEFERRAL BASED ON EVERYTHING YOU HEARD? ABSOLUTELY.

UH, HOW LONG? THREE MONTHS.

THREE MONTHS IF POSSIBLE.

MR. CASH, I'M LOOKING AT ONE ANOTHER OPTION IS THAT WE CAN, IF, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN WORK OUT? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN WORK OUT TALKING TO THE APPLICANT ABSOLUTELY TONIGHT? UM, IF THEY, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE INFORMATION TO BE ABLE TO, TO REALLY MOVE FORWARD, EVEN JUST LIKE THE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN THE LICENSES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.

ALSO, ALTHOUGH APPLICATIONS CAN CHANGE DURING, UH, MEETING YOU, YOU'RE, YOU CAN'T ALLOW A USE THAT IS MORE INTENSIVE THAN WHAT WAS ADVERTISED.

A RESTAURANT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A MORE INTENSIVE USE.

EVEN IF YOU WANTED TO ALLOW THAT, YOU'D HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE THIS CASE, MENTIONING THE RESTAURANT, HOLD ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING IN ORDER TO APPROVE IT SO YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY UNDER THE LEGAL ADVERTISING REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW A RESTAURANT USE TONIGHT.

GI, GIVEN THAT WE ARE NOT PROPOSING A HOLDUP OF THE PLANTING AT THIS STAGE, I WOULD, I WOULD JUST UPON THAT WE GO FORWARD WITH THE DEFERRAL, RIGHT.

THINKING THAT IT CAN WORK AND SAVE US A LOT OF FUTURE TIME, EVEN THOUGH IT ADDS THREE MONTHS, IT SAVES A LOT OF RESOURCES, SO TO SPEAK.

I MOVED TO DEFER THIS CASE TO OCTOBER 1ST MEETING.

I SECOND THAT.

CAN WE HAVE DISCUSSION, UH, JOHN, CAN WE USE MINE FOR RECORD SAKE? CAN YOU DO IT AS SORRY, SO WE HAVE IT.

OH, I DON'T, DO YOU HAVE IT IN, DO YOU HAVE PREFERENCE ON NOVEMBER? NO, NO.

I JUST WAS WAS TRYING DO, OH, THERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT.

UM, I MOVE TO DEFER, UM, THAT THE BOARD, UH, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD DEFERRED, UH, CONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS CU 20 24 0 0 0 1 0 FOR A PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE, UNHOLSTERED, SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND WINERY ON LESS THAN 50 ACRES.

CALL.

I'M ACTUALLY NOT IN ACCESSORY PUBLIC ASSEMBLY USES AT 5 0 6 1 BROAD STREET ROAD TO OCTOBER 1ST BOARD MEETING.

DO I HAVE SECOND? SECOND? UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I, MR. LYLE? NO.

NOPE.

SEEING NONE.

UH, MS. MS. GITZ, CAN I GET A, A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.

UH, AND I DO WANT TO THANK THE REYNOLDS FOR OPERATING A GREAT BUSINESS IN OUR COUNTY.

THANK YOU FOR THE YEARS SO FAR.

UM, AND WE WANNA GET THIS DONE, RIGHT? YES.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING, UH, AND WORKING WITH US ON THAT.

AND I'M GONNA REQUEST A FIVE MINUTE ADJOURN JUST FOR, UH, USING THE FACILITIES, UH, RECESS.

AND WE WILL COME BACK AT SEVEN.

WE'LL JUST SAY SEVEN 40.

THANK I WILL NOW CALL US BACK FROM RECESS.

[04:09:37]

WE NEED DOUBLE.

ARE WE READY? WE READY TO START AGAIN? YOU READY?

[04:10:31]

UM, ITEM SEVEN ON THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA.

ALSO A DISTRICT ONE ITEM, UH, FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

2024 DASH EIGHT APPLICATION BY IAN.

HE STOCK REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A GUNSMITH SHOP ON FIVE ACRES AT 57 64 COMMUNITY HOUSE ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBER 10 DASH ONE DASH

[7. District 1 - CU-2024-00008 Application by Ian Hemstock requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for a gunsmith shop on 5 acres at 5764 Community House Road on Tax Map No. 10-1-0-11-B. The property is zoned Agricultural, General (A-1). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-102. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]

ZERO DASH 11 DASH B.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL GENERAL A ONE.

THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY, COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15 DASH TEN TWO.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.

MS. SHERRY WILL PRESENT THE CASE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR THE RECORD.

UM, YES, THE NEXT APPLICATION OR THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IS IN DISTRICT ONE.

AGAIN, I GAVE YOU A LITTLE PREVIEW EARLIER, BUT, UH, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DO IT RIGHT THIS TIME.

UM, AN APPLICATION BY IAN HEMP STOCK FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A GUNSMITH SHOP.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON COMMUNITY HOUSE ROAD IN THE WESTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE AERIAL PHOTO, THERE ARE LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL USES AND FARMLAND IN THE AREA.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL GENERAL AS ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED BY THE GLAND COUNTY 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREAS, AS ARE THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A GUNSMITH SHOP.

MR. HENS.

MR. HEMOC HAS A FIRE, A FEDERAL FIREARMS LICENSE TO REPAIR AND, UM, AND SELL FIREARMS. THE ORIGINAL APPLICATION THAT CAME IN INCLUDED A SHOOTING RANGE TO TEST FIRE WEAPONS THAT HE IS WORKING ON ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS, BUT THE APPLICANT REMOVED THAT USE FROM THE APPLICATION AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

SO, AS PREVIOUSLY ME PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA WITH THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS AND PROPERLY OPERATED.

THIS USE, UH, WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION.

THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING BACK IN JANUARY, OR SIX ATTENDEES, UM, NINE ATTENDEES, EXCUSE ME, WERE, UM, AT THE MEETING.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT AT THE TIME OF THE COMMUNITY MEETING, THE APPLICANT WAS STILL REQUESTING TO TEST FIRE THE WEAPONS ON THE PROPERTY.

THAT, AGAIN, HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE APPLICATION, BUT AT THE MEETING, THERE WERE CONCERNS AND QUESTIONS RAISED ABOUT THE NOISE AND IMPACT, UH, TO THE ADJACENT DAYCARE ANIMALS IN THE AREA HOURS OF SHOOTING.

UM, OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WERE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE OUTDOOR, UM, UH, UM, RA SHOOTING RANGE, UH, WERE WHAT TYPE OF WEAPONS WOULD BE BEING REPAIRED AND WHAT KIND OF SIGNAGE WOULD, UH, THE APPLICANT HAVE AT THE MAY 16TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING? THE REQUEST WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL WITH A FIVE ZERO VOTE.

UH, THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE IN, UM, THAT SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, THE, UM, THERE WERE AMENDMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHOOTING RANGE.

SO, UM, ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE THE FULL CONDITIONS LISTED ON SEPARATE SLIDES, BUT IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE ME TO REVIEW THEM, I CAN GO THROUGH THEM IN THEIR ENTIRETY.

UH, A PORTION OF THE, UM, THE, UH, STRIKETHROUGH THAT YOU'LL HAVE IN YOUR PACKET, AND THAT IS ONLINE, IS THE REMOVAL OF THE, UM, THE, THE REFERENCES TO THE SHOOTING RANGE.

THE PERMIT WILL ALLOW THE GUNSMITH ON THE PROPERTY HOURS OF OPERATION TO BE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM THAT ALL STATE, COUNTY AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS BE OBSERVED.

THAT THE PROPERTY SHALL MAINTAIN A RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE.

UM, THE PERMIT WILL EXPIRE JULY 31ST, 2029, WHICH IS A FIVE YEAR RENEWAL.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE STANDARD, UH, TRANSFER RELEASE, BUT THEY'LL HAVE TO LET THE COUNTY AND ANYBODY WHO WERE TO BE, UM, OCCUPYING THE PROPERTY AND USING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OF THE CONDITIONS.

THAT CONCLUDES

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MY PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS HERE THIS EVENING, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MS. SHERRY, UH, DID THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN FACT, APPROVE THIS WITH, UH, HIM HAVING THE ABILITY TO TEST THE GUNS OR FIREARMS THAT HE REPAIRED THAT AS HE COULD REPAIR HIM AND GO AHEAD AND HIS, HIS, UH, RANGE AND, AND, UH, TEST HIM? YES, SIR.

HE DID.

UM, THEY DID, MY COMMISSION DID APPROVE THAT WITH TWO AMENDMENTS.

UH, THEY DID MAKE, UM, ADJUSTMENTS TO THE, UH, CONDITIONS THAT REQUIRED THAT ONLY THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, OR THE BUSINESS OWNER WOULD BE TEST FIRING, AND THAT, UM, THERE WAS SOME, UH, CHANGES IN THE ELEVATION OF THE, UM, THE HEIGHT OF THE BERM.

MM-HMM, , OF COURSE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MS. SHE, LET ME JUST ADD TO THE PROCESS PIECE, IF I MAY.

UM, ONCE THE APPLICANT AMENDED HIS APPLICATION TO REMOVE THAT USE, IT WAS THEN NOT ADVERTISED FOR TONIGHT.

SO THAT ADDITIONAL USE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID HERE IS NOT BEFORE YOU, TONIGHT HAS NOT BEEN A SUBJECT OF THE AD BECAUSE THE APPLICANT REMOVED IT BY AMENDING HIS APPLICATION.

WELL, THANK YOU.

BECAUSE, UH, SO WE CANNOT, UH, ADD THAT BACK IN YOU.

WE, YOU WOULD VIOLATE THE LEGAL ADVERTISEMENT IF, IF YOU WANTED TO ADD IT BACK IN, YOU'D HAVE TO DEFER IT SO THAT IT COULD BE ADVERTISED FOR THAT YES.

TO THE APPLICANT.

I, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT WANTED THAT ANYWAY, EVEN IF WE COULD THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

THANK, THANK YOU.

UM, SEEING NO MORE QUESTIONS OF MS. MCGEE, I'LL OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

OH, MS. SHERRY, EXCUSE ME.

DID THE A IS THE APPLICANT IS THE APPLICANT'S AGENT? DOES I, I'M SORRY.

I KNEW THE APPLICANT WASN'T HERE, SO I I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

UH, I, HELLO BOARD MEMBERS, I'M CAPITAL POWELL.

I LIVE AT 5 7 6 2 COMMUNITY HOUSE ROAD.

I AM THE NEIGHBOR.

I ORIGINALLY SOLD THIS PROPERTY TO THE PREVIOUS LANDOWNER.

UH, HE SHOWED THE PICTURES.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO PRESENT, BUT I HAVE A COPY OF THE LAND PLAT HERE, AND HE'S STILL OPERATING A SHOOTING RANGE.

THE NOISE IS ENOUGH, BUT MY CONCERN IS SAFETY OPERATING A SHOOTING RANGE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF FIVE ACRES THAT'S SURROUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

UH, I FACT THAT THE PROPERTY RIGHT BEHIND HIS SHOOTING RANGE, I HAVE A PICTURE HERE, UH, THAT I COULD SHOW YOU IS NINE ACRES THAT BELONGS TO ME, WHICH IS THE ONLY DIRECTION HE CAN SHOOT IN SAFELY WITHOUT HARMING ANYONE.

AND I HAVE A WOODS ROAD AND TRAILS THROUGH THE WOODS, AND I'M SCARED MYSELF AT THE MOMENT FOR ME OR MY KIDS TO EVEN, I FEEL PRISONER OF MY OWN PROPERTY BECAUSE I CAN'T, CAN'T, I CAN'T ACCESS THAT, THAT PART OF MY PROPERTY.

SO I DON'T, I I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH HIM HAVING A GUN, A GUNSMITH SHOP WITH THE SHOOTING RANGE FOR TEST FIRING, WHICH HE ADVERTISES FOR TEST FIRING.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT I COULD DO ABOUT HIM REMOVING THE, THE, THE, THE, THE RANGE HE HAS ON THE PROPERTY LINE, RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE, WHICH SHOOTS INTO OUR PROPERTY.

THE CREEK IS OUR PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS ALL THE ZIGZAGGING GO GOING DOWN THROUGH THE PROPERTY AT THE TOP.

SO THAT LITTLE TRIANGLE PIECE IS OURS, AND THEN OUR PROPERTY COMES DOWN.

SO WE ARE ON TWO SIDES OF HIS PROPERTY, BUT HE'S SHOOTING INTO OUR PROPERTY IS THE PROBLEM.

, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SHOOTING INTO OUR PROPERTY AND OUR CREEK, THIS CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH OUR PROPERTY, UH, SERVICES, THE LAKE BEHIND US, IT FEEDS INTO THE LAKE AND THEM LEAD IS BEING SHOT RIGHT INTO THE CREEK.

, IF THAT'S ANY CONCERN.

BUT WE HAVE A DOG PEN BACK THERE WE'VE HAD FOR 27 YEARS, SO IT'S A LITTLE TRIANGLE PIECE BACK THERE.

BUT IF YOU, IF YOU SHOW WHERE HE'S SHOOTING FROM THE CORNER OF THE PROPERTY, IT GOES STRAIGHT INTO THE LARGER PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY IN THE BACK.

CAN WE, OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, I, I BELIEVE YOU, YOU ALL HERE FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS, SO LET, WE'RE GONNA, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A NOTE THAT WE ARE INCLUDING THAT AS, BUT I, I WOULD ASK, UH, I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS OF MS. SHERRY GIVEN YOUR YEAH.

COMMENTS.

I, I, LET ME DO THIS.

I, I I, I WANT TO CLASSIFY, JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT WAS FOR THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.

UM, IS THERE ANYONE, SINCE I'VE ALREADY GATHERED IN, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS IN THE AUDIENCE?

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NO.

IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, SIR.

IF THE APPLICANT, IF THE AGENT OF THE APPLICANT IS HERE, THAT PROCEEDS CITIZEN COMMENTS, SO I'LL JUST MAKE AN THAT IT'S FINE TO GO OUT OF ORDER.

THAT THE LAW DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT, THAT CERTAIN ORDER.

REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE AGENT, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND COMING UP.

I'M WENDY HEMS STOCK.

I'M IAN'S WIFE.

IT'S A MANUFACTURING FACILITY.

UM, SO REGARDING THE SHOOTING RANGE, OBVIOUSLY IT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE APPLICATION.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, UM, THE, IF I'M TO BE ANSWERING QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SHOOTING RANGE, IT HAS BEEN REMOVED, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE I CAN ADD TO THAT.

DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CASE IN GENERAL OR ADD WHAT MS. SHERRY SAID? YES.

UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GOING TO BE A GUNSMITHING BUSINESS.

HE'S RAN THE BUSINESS FOR APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS OUT OF CHESTERVILLE COUNTY IN OUR PREVIOUS HOME.

UM, HE'S, UM, IAN'S OBVIOUSLY HAD A LOT OF EXPERIENCE REGARDING, UM, MANUFACTURING.

HE'S BEEN IN MANUFACTURING FOR ALL OF HIS WORK IN LIFE.

HE'S VERY EXPERIENCED.

HE, THIS IS JUST A SMALL BUSINESS.

IT'S NOT HIS PERMANENT ROLE.

UM, HE, HE ACTUALLY WORKS FOR A COMPANY CALLED BGB TECHNOLOGY.

HE'S WORKED THERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

UM, HE HAS, UM, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF MANUFACTURING EXPERIENCE AS I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED.

UM, SO IT, IT IS BASICALLY GOING TO BE A GUNSMITHING UM, BUSINESS WITHIN OUR PROPERTY.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.

APPRECIATE.

NOW WE'LL GO BACK TO, I'LL, I'LL JUST READ THAT ONE.

THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

UH, ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS TO BE MADE.

UH, SEEING NO MORE COMMENTS, I'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

UM, I WILL JUST MAKE ONE OTHER QUESTION IF YOU DON'T MIND TO YES, PLEASE, SIR.

UM, JUST CLARIFICATION PURPOSES, BUT IF I KNOW YOU MADE ONE COMMENT THAT STUCK WITH ME IS THE, UH, BECAUSE IN YOUR HOME WITH THE GUN RANGE, SORRY, YOU MADE A PRISONER, UH, YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT STUCK WITH ME, THE PRISONER IN YOUR OWN HOME WITH THE GUN RANGE TAKEN OUT OF THAT, UH, APPLICATION, WOULD THAT PROVIDE THE SAFETY OF YOUR HE'S GOING TO CONTINUE SHOOTING THE RANGE HADN'T BEEN REMOVED.

I MEAN, WHAT WOULD I DO IF HE CONTINUES TO SHOOT? YOU HAVE TO TESTIFY WHAT YOU WORKED ON.

I MEAN, HE ADVERTISES TEST FIRING HIS WEAPONS, SO I BELIEVE HE'S SHOOTING BY RIGHT, RIGHT.

WHAT, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS RECREATION AND THAT THE TEST FIRE WAS PART OF THE BUSINESS.

HE'S REMOVING THE TEST FIRING, BUT WE CAN'T LIMIT HIS SHOOTING BY RIGHT.

IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, TARA.

THAT'S CORRECT.

IT HAS BEEN EXPLAINED TO ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE SHOOTING THE APPLICANT IS DOING AT THE PROPERTY, EVEN TODAY AND IN THE PAST HAS BEEN THE SAME THAT ANY PROPERTY OWNER IS ALLOWED TO DO ON THEIR PROPERTY, UH, IN UCHIN COUNTY.

AND SO HE HAS REMOVED A GUN RANGE FOR THE PURPOSE OF TEST FIRING.

AGAIN, IT'S BEEN EXPLAINED WHEN THAT AMENDMENT CAME THROUGH THAT HE HAS OTHER PLACES TO TEST FIRE, BUT THIS DOES NOT LIMIT HIS ONGOING ABILITY AS ANY PROPERTY OWNER DOES TO SHOOT WEAPONS ON THEIR PROPERTY.

WHAT IF HE CONTINUES TO TESTIFY OR WOULD I DO 'CAUSE HE TEST FIRING YESTERDAY? WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND MR. GILLES, IS MAYBE WE COULD HAVE STAFF GET WITH THIS COUPLE OF, TO TALK THROUGH, IF HE'S IN VIOLATION OF HIS, OF OF THE BUSINESS, THEN YOU COULD COM THEN YOU WOULD NOTIFY HIS STAFF AND STAFF WOULD GO AND RESEARCH TO SEE THAT HE'S WITHIN THE RIGHTS OF HIS BUSINESS.

BUT NOTIFY THE STAFF, NOTIFY OUR STAFF, AND THE STAFF IS GONNA GET WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU A CARD SO THAT THEY CAN TALK THROUGH AND YOUR OPTIONS.

IF YOU FEEL LIKE SOMEBODY'S SHOOTING AND IT'S UNSAFE, PROBABLY NEED TO GET THE SHERIFF INVOLVED.

UM, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD NEED TO KNOW IF, IF HE, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING STAFF.

IT'S VERY UNSAFE WHERE HE'S SHOOTING AT ANYWAY.

SO, WHICH IS WHY WE CAME HERE.

WELL, WHAT, WHAT I NEED TO DO TO, TO ENSURE THE SAFETY, NOT ONLY OF ME, BUT MY CHILDREN, THE CHILDREN, HIS NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS, WHICH IS THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, UH, HAS A CHI, UH, SHE CHILDCARE.

THANK YOU, MR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

MY NUMBER.

ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS? OKAY.

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SEEING NINE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.

UM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DO I HAVE A MOTION I MOVE TO APPROVE THAT THE, OR I MOVE THAT THE BOARD, UH, GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2024 DASH EIGHT FOR GUNSMITH SHOP AT 57 64 COMMUNITY HOUSE ROAD SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I'VE GOT SOME DISCUSSION POINTS.

MR. AS I WAS POINTING OUT EARLIER, UH, HIS CURRENT SHOOTING IS A BY, RIGHT? WHETHER IT'S UNSAFE OR NOT, THAT'S NOT FOR THE BOARD HERE TO DETERMINE.

UM, BUT EITHER WAY, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO HAVE A GUN GUNSMITH SHOP.

UM, HE'S REMOVED THE SHOOTING RANGE FOR MULTIPLE REASONS, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, NEIGHBOR COMPLAINTS AND, AND, AND THINGS BEYOND THAT.

UM, SO US APPROVING THIS DOESN'T, DOESN'T IMPLY THAT WE'RE APPROVING UNSAFE SHOOTING HABITS.

THIS IS JUST TO ALLOW HIM TO WORK ON GUNS AT HIS PROPERTY AS A BUSINESS.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR.

ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION BETWEEN BOARD? WE, WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH BUSINESS.

WE JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SHOOTING INTO OUR PROPERTIES.

MA'AM, THAT WAS THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS CLOSED AND WE HAVEN'T COMPLAINED ABOUT ANYTHING WE JUST CAME TO FOR OUR CONCERNS.

TAX MAP NUMBER 21 DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 25 DASH A.

UM, OKAY.

SEEING THAT WE HAVE NO FURTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS, UM, MS. MS. KITZ, UH, WOULD YOU TAKE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. HOWARD? YES.

MR. LOW? AYE.

AYE.

YES, MR. WINFREY? YES.

UH, MOVING ON TO ITEM EIGHT ON THE PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA.

THIS IS FOR DISTRICT TWO, UH, CU DASH 2023 DASH 17.

APPLICATION BY CORNELIUS DANDRIDGE JR.

REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SMALL CONTRACTOR STORAGE ON 1.7 ACRES ON SANDY HOOK ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 500 FEET SOUTH OF ITS INTERSECTION WITH WHITEHALL ROAD ON

[8. District 2 - CU-2023-00017 Application by Cornelius Dandridge, Jr. requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for small contractor storage on 1.87 acres on Sandy Hook Road approximately 500 feet south of its intersection with Whitehall Road on Tax Map No. 21-1-0-25-A. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 in accordance with Sec. 15-283.I. The applicant is seeking 5 exceptions to Sec. 15-283.I to allow: 1) use on less than 3 acres, 2) building setback less than 100 feet from property line, 3) less screening than the required standard, 4) the number of vehicles and trailers to exceed standard, and 5) outside security lighting on the property. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Commercial.]

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED A TWO.

THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15 DASH ONE 12 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 15 DASH 2 83 DASH I.

THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING FIVE EXCEPTIONS TO SECTION 15 DASH 2 83 UH, DASH I TO ALLOW ONE USE ON LESS THAN THREE ACRES.

TWO BUILDING SETBACK LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

THREE LESS SCREENING THAN THE REQUIRED STANDARD.

FOUR, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND TRAILERS TO EXCEED STANDARD AND FIVE, OUTSIDE SECURITY LIGHTING ON THE PROPERTY.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS COMMERCIAL MS. SHERRY WILL PRESENT THE CASE.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS AN APPLICATION BY CORNELIA DANDRIDGE FOR A SMALL CONTRACTOR STORAGE BUILDING, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

THIS APPLICATION IS IN DISTRICT TWO, NOT DISTRICT ONE.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE SANDY HOOK CROSSROAD, WHICH IS IN THE NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF WHITE HALL AND SANDY HOOK ROADS IN THE AREA.

THERE'S A MIXTURE TO INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL, MOSTLY LARGE LOT RESIDENTIAL MEDICAL OFFICE, AND SOON TO BE A GOVERNMENT FACILITY.

THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY AS COMMERCIAL AND ALSO HAS THE DESIGNATION OF BEING WITHIN THE SANDY HOOK ROADS IN 2023.

THE USE FOR CONTRACTOR STORAGE SMALL WAS ADDED TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN AGRICULTURAL LIMITED AND AGRICULTURAL AGRICULTURAL GENERAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

THIS NEED WAS IDENTIFIED BY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO HELP SMALL CONTRACTORS GROW INTO MID-SIZED BUSINESSES.

IT IS MEANT TO FILL A GAP BETWEEN SMALL BUSINESSES AND THOSE READY TO CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESSES IN COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.

THERE ARE USE

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STANDARDS IN THE OR THAT PERTAIN TO SMALL CONTRACTOR STORAGE BUILDINGS.

THE USE STANDARDS ADDRESS SUCH THINGS SUCH AS SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, SIZE OF THE BUILDING NUMBER AND TYPE OF VEHICLES ON THE PROPERTY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

STANDARD 12 GIVES THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT EXCEPTIONS TO THE STANDARDS THROUGH THIS CUP PROCESS.

MR. DAND ANDREWS IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SMALL CONTRACTOR STORAGE BILLING FOR THE EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH HIS LANDSCAPING BUSINESS.

CURRENTLY HAS A HOME OCCUPATION, WHICH DOES NOT OCCUPATION BUSINESS LICENSE, WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE OR FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A BUILDING TO BE USED SOLELY FOR A BUSINESS.

SO THIS SLIDE PROVIDES, UH, SITE DETAILS.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS 1.87 ACRES AND THAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE PURPLE CIRCLE.

THAT'S THE ACTUAL SUBJECT PROPERTY.

UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING STORAGE SHED CIRCLED IN BLUE ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THE ACCESS FROM SANDY HOOK IS THROUGH A SEPARATE PARCEL.

AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH THE ORANGE, UM, OVERLAY ONTO THE EXISTING DRIVE.

UM, IT IS ALSO ADJACENT, LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE FUTURE FIRE STA FIRE RESCUE STA FIRE RESCUE STATION EIGHT, WHICH IS IN RED.

THE EXISTING BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY IS 864 SQUARE FEET.

UM, THE PARKING AREA ASSOCIATED WITH THE, UM, THE USE IS A GRAVEL PARKING AREA.

THE BUILDING HAS NO ELECTRICITY OR WATER AND THE APT AND THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO OBTAIN BUILDING PERMITS, UM, UPON APPROVAL IF THE BOARD WERE TO APPROVE THIS USE.

THERE ARE, UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF REQUESTED EXCEPTIONS TO THE STANDARDS.

UH, THE FIRST ONE IS THE REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE LESS THAN THE STANDARD THREE ACRES.

UH, THE PROPERTY, AS I'D MENTIONED, IS ONLY 1.87 ACRES.

UH, THE SECOND REQUEST IS FOR THE MINIMUM BUILDING SETBACK TO BE LESS THAN THE 100, 100 FOOT STANDARD TO THE EAST.

UM, THE PROPERTY IS APPROXIMATELY 80.

I MEAN, THE BUILDING IS APPROXIMATELY 80 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE WEST, APPROXIMATELY 75 EXCEPTIONS MAY BE APPROPRIATE SINCE THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS, UM, ABOUT THE BUSINESS.

AND, UM, THEY CANNOT, UH, MEET THOSE, UH, REQUIREMENTS 'CAUSE THE PROPERTY IS TOO SMALL.

UM, ADDITIONAL EXCEPTIONS, UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING LESS SCREENING THAN THE REQUIRED STANDARD.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING NO SCREENING, UM, BECAUSE HE STATES THAT HE HAS CONCERNS WITH SECURITY.

UM, THE STANDARD REALLY REQUIRES THAT SCREENING, UH, BE SUPPLIED WITH DENSE VEGETATION OR AN OPA FENCE OR A COMBINATION OF BOTH.

THE APPLICANT IS RE REQUESTING NOT TO HAVE ANY SCREENING AT ALL BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION IN THE RURAL CROSSROADS AND THE PROXIMITY TO OTHER USES.

SCREENING IS RECOMMENDED, RECOMMENDED TO MINIMIZE THE VISUAL IMPACT AND TO HELP RETAIN THE RURAL CHARACTER PER THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE EXCEPTION, UH, THE NEXT EXCEPTION IS, UH, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND TRAILERS TO EXCEED THE STANDARD.

UM, THE STANDARD IS TWO BUSINESS VEHICLES, TWO TRAILERS, ONE AXLE, UM, ON EACH, UH, OF THE TRAILERS AND A MAXIMUM OF 13 FEET IN LENGTH.

UH, THE APPLICANT HAS THREE BUSINESS, UH, VEHICLES CURRENTLY.

UH, THE TRAILERS, THREE TRAILERS WITH TWO AXLES.

UH, THE LENGTHS ARE 13, 14, AND 18 IN LENGTH.

UM, SO A COUPLE THINGS HAVE BEEN LEARNED.

UH, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, SINCE THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMPLAINTS, UH, THIS MAY BE AN APPROPRIATE, UH, NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND TRAILERS ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS.

UM, BUT IT SHOULD BE KNOWN THAT, UM, I'VE LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LENGTHS OF TRAILERS AND AND HAULING EQUIPMENT.

APPARENTLY THE NUMBER OF AXLES THAT WE ARE, UM, UH, STANDARD STANDARDIZED IS, IS, IS LIMITED.

UH, SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT.

UH, LET'S SEE.

UM, IF THIS WERE APPROVED, WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, THAT THIS WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM OF VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED, ANY ADDITIONAL MIGHT IN, UM, BE THE TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO MOVE TO, UM, A COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.

NUMBER FIVE, THE OUTSIDE SECURITY LIGHTING ON THE PROPERTY STANDARD.

UH, WE HAVE NO LIGHTING TO MINIMIZE THE VISUAL IMPACT.

MR. UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO HAVE SECURITY LIGHTING.

UH, STAFF THINK THIS IS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE STANDARD, UM, THE, THE CONDITION THAT IS BEING IMPOSED DOES REQUIRE IT TO BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT, WHICH IS A CODE REQUIREMENT ANYWAY, BUT ALSO TO HAVE, UM, AUTOMATIC SHOT OFF OR DIMMING.

SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY AS COMMERCIAL, UH, WITHIN THE SANDY HOOK CROSSROADS, UH, RURAL CROSSROADS ARE

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MEANT TO RETAIN THE RECOR RE, UH, RURAL CHARACTER AND FUNCTION AS VIABLE CENTERS OF ACTIVITY.

UM, THEY SHOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE AREA PROPERLY, PROPERLY DESIGNATE, PROPERLY DESIGNED AND OPERATED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS.

THE USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION.

A COMMITTEE MEETING WAS HELD BACK IN, IN OCTOBER OF 2023.

UH, TWO ATTENDEES, UH, WERE TWO PEOPLE ATTENDED.

OUTSIDE OF STAFF.

THE ATTENDEES HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES AND THE ACCESS EASEMENT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN MAY.

AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION WITH A FIVE ZERO VOTE.

NO ONE SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND NO, UM, NO PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE BEEN RECEIVED THUS FAR.

THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT AT THE, UM, WITH THE RESOLUTION THERE BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAD ORIGINALLY REQUESTED A SIXTH STANDARD OF EXCEPTION AND THAT WAS REMOVED.

SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONS RATHER QUICKLY.

UH, SINCE THIS IS OUR FIRST TIME HAVING, UH, THIS USE, I AM GONNA GO THROUGH IT.

UM, NUMBER ONE ALLOWS FOR THE SMALL CONTRACTOR USE IN, IN CON, UM, CONJUNCTION WITH THE STANDARDS, UNLESS THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS.

UM, THE SITE PLAN, UH, NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SITE PLAN.

THAT WOULD BE NUMBER TWO.

NUMBER THREE, ROAD REQUIREMENTS.

SINCE THE ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY IS ON ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY, THE APPLICANT WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE THE COUNTY WITH WRITTEN NOTICE, UH, WRITTEN, UH, PERMISSION TO USE THAT ACCESS EASEMENT AND TO PROVIDE A MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT SO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE MUTUALLY UNDERSTANDING HOW THE, THE ROAD WOULD BE THE, THE DRIVE WOULD BE, UH, MAINTAINED.

UM, THIS NUMBER FOUR WOULD REQUIRE THE APPLICANT TO OBTAIN ALL NECESSARY BUILDING INSPECTION APPROVALS FOR THE EXISTING BUILDING WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF APPROVAL OF THE CUP.

SO, FOR EXCEPTIONS, IF THE BOARD WERE TO GRANT THESE EXCEPTIONS, THE, UM, CONDITIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS, MINIMUM ACREAGE EXCEPTION.

THE APPLICANT HAS GRANTED THE EXCEPTION TO THE THREE ACRE MINIMUM, UM, PROPERTY SIZE PER ZONING ORDINANCE, AND THE MINIMUM SIZE SHALL BE 1.87 ACRES.

THE BUILDING SETBACK, UM, ALSO GRANTS, UH, THE EXCEPTION TO THE MINIMUM 100 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE AND, UM, LIMITS IT TO 75 FEET.

AS THE, UM, THE MINIMUM SCREENING EXCEPTION, THE EXCEPTION IS GRANTED FOR THE SCREENING, UH, TO THE STORAGE BUILDING AND PARKING AREA.

UM, IT IS RECOMMENDED, UH, OR IT IS STATED IN THE CONDITIONS THAT ANY TRASH RECEPTACLES THAT BE MIGHT BE ON THE PROPERTY NEED TO BE, UM, WITH A OEG DUMPSTER, VEHICLES AND TRAILERS.

UM, THIS DOES ALLOW FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THE TWO VEHICLES.

IT DOES ALLOW FOR, EXCUSE ME, THREE WORK VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS.

AND THEN B, IT DOES ALLOW FOR THE EXCEPTION OF THE TWO TRAILERS, THAT DOES ALLOW FOR THE THREE WITH THE ADDITIONAL AXLES AND LENGTH.

THE LIGHTING EXCEPTION DOES ALLOW FOR SECURITY LIGHTING.

UM, THIS WILL BE APPROVED BY THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

AND OF COURSE, AS I MENTIONED, WHICH IS A CODE REQUIREMENT.

THE DARK SKY COMPLIANT MUST BE, UM, UH, ADHERED TO AS WELL AS IT SHOULD BE REDUCED TO A NECESSARY LEVEL FOR SECURITY IN A SENSOR AND OR SENSOR.

ACTIVATED LIGHT SHOULD BE UTILIZED WHEN THE PROPERTY, WHEN THE BUSINESS IS CLOSED.

UH, THE EXPIRATION, THIS WOULD BE A FIVE YEAR EXPIRATION, WHICH WOULD BE EXPIRE AT THE END OF JULY, 2029.

AND THEN LASTLY, OUR STANDARD TRANSFER RELEASE.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS REQUEST.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

OF COURSE.

I WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I WILL CLOSE THE FLOOR.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

DO I HAVE A MOTION, UH, MR. CHAIR? SO, WHEN I THOUGHT ABOUT RUNNING FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THIS TYPE OF PROJECT IS EXACTLY WHAT I HOPED I WOULD BE DOING.

UM, THERE'S SO MUCH GOODNESS WRAPPED UP IN THIS, IN THAT WE ARE HELPING BRIDGE A GAP THAT EXISTS CURRENTLY.

SO WE'RE SOLVING PROBLEMS FOR REAL PEOPLE.

UM, WE'RE HELPING A PERSON THAT HAS A, A VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS EMPLOYING A LOT OF REALLY GREAT YOUNG MEN, UM, HELP, HELPING, GIVING THEM OPPORTUNITIES.

UH, AND I LOVE HOW THE, THE, WE CRAFTED AN ORDINANCE,

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UM, TO MEET THIS NEED.

AND AS MS. SHERRY SAID, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME GOING THROUGH IT.

SO, UM, WHAT I LOVE ABOUT LAND USE IS THAT IT'S PARTICULAR TO A CERTAIN PARCEL AND IS THERE'S NO, UM, THERE'S NO PRECEDENCE.

AND WE GET TO LOOK AT EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS PROJECT AND YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND YOU LOOK AT, UM, THE, THE, THE SURROUNDING BUSINESSES, UM, I AGREE WITH EACH OF THE, UH, EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE, ARE BEING PROPOSED TODAY.

SO WITH THAT, UM, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE, UM, CU 2023 DASH 17 APPLICATION FOR SMALL, UH, CONTRACTOR STORAGE, UM, AS PRESENTED.

ANY, UH, THANK YOU.

ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY.

SEEING NONE, UH, MS. KITZ, COULD YOU TAKE THE ROLL CALL PLEASE? MR. WINFORD? OH, YES.

MR. LONG AYE.

MR. CHRISTIE? YES, MR. SPADE? HOW YES.

MR. S? YES.

B THREE WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS FOR A TWO STORY MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING AT 12 7 0 5 BROAD STREET ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBERS 59 DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 32 DASH ZERO AND 59 DASH DASH 0 33 DASH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

MOVING ON TO OUR FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

ITEM NINE.

UM, THIS IS A DISTRICT FOUR APPLICATION FOR RZ DASH 2023 DASH THREE.

APPLICATION BY RHVA, GLAND LLC REQUESTING TO REZONE 3.452 ACRES FROM RESIDENTIAL GENERAL R THREE TO INTERCHANGE COMMERCIAL

[9. District 4 - RZ-2023-00003 Application by RHVA Goochland, LLC requesting to rezone 3.452 acres from Residential, General (R-3) to Interchange Commercial (B-3) with proffered conditions for a two-story medical office building at 12705 Broad Street Road on Tax Map Nos. 59-1-0-32-0 and 59-1-0-33-0. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Prime Economic Development.]

MR. CASH WILL PRESENT THE CASE.

I APOLOGIZE.

APPARENTLY THINGS ARE GOING SO WELL.

JUST THROWING A TECHNO TECHNOLOGICAL PROBLEM.

SO, UH, LET'S SEE.

HOPEFULLY IT'S THE CORRECT WAY.

UM, THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UH, FOR THE RECORD, I AM, UH, RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

WE SPENT WAY TOO MUCH TIME OUT WEST.

LET'S BRING IT BACK EAST.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DISTRICT FOUR.

UM, I'D SAY THIS IS AGAIN, A REZONING FOR MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING LOOKOUT, SOUTH LAWN, BROAD STREET ROAD.

UM, PROPOSED ZONING IS INTERCHANGE COMMERCIAL.

UH, THE PROPERTY IS, UH, WELL NOT QUITE AS FAR EAST AS YOU CAN GO IN GOOCHLAND.

IT'S JUST SHY OF THE 2 88 BROAD STREET INTERCHANGE.

I'M SORRY, JUST WEST OF BROAD STREET.

UM, INTERCHANGE.

IT'S IN THE GLAND SIDE AS PEOPLE MIGHT REFERENCE.

UM, THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY HAS A, UH, RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE AT ONE POINT THAT HAD BEEN USED FOR, UM, A VARIETY OF THINGS, RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL USE.

THE ROAD THAT YOU SEE THAT'S GENERALLY TO, THAT RUNS JUST BELOW TO THE SOUTH OF IT.

THAT IS REALLY A SERVICE ROAD.

UM, IT DOES CONNECT TO A NURSERY, UM, THAT'S THERE PART OF THIS APPLICATION AS WE GO THROUGH PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

THAT ROAD WILL, UM, BE UPDATED, UH, TO MAKE SURE IT SERVES THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THE CURRENT ZONING, UH, THE PROPOSAL, THIS IS CURRENTLY R THREE, WE'RE OPPOSING TO BE, UH, BN.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES DESIGNATE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES REALLY PRIMARILY FOR COMMERCIAL USE.

THIS IS, THIS AREA IS LISTED FOR PRIMARY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO THIS IS PART OF THE CENTERVILLE PLAN.

IT IS CLASSIFIED FOR PRIMARY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PRIMARY DEVELOPMENT, THERE IS AN EXPIRATION, UM, SHOULD HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COUNTY'S TAX BASE.

SHOULD ATTRACT AND RETAIN CORPORATE INVESTMENT, GENERATE JOBS, AND EXPAND AND DIVERSIFY THE TAX BASE.

UM, USUALLY WITH A, WITH THOSE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS, YOU THINK OF A LARGE TRACK OR PRIMARY AND MONO AREAS ARE USUALLY A LARGE TRACK.

UM, UH, THEN THE EXPECTATION, THERE'S A HIGH QUALITY INFRASTRUCTURE THAT COMES FORWARD WITH THIS.

UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, BUT DOES IT STILL COMPLY WITH THE PLAN? UH, WE DO SAY THAT YES, BECAUSE WHAT IT'S DOING, IT'S PROVIDING A TWO STORY OFFICE, BUILDING NEW JOBS, UH, RESULTING, UH, FROM THAT, UH, PROPERTY IS ISOLATED FROM THE REMAINDER OF OUR PRIMARY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT, UM, UNUSUAL COMPARATIVELY.

UM, AND SO WE'D EXPECT A LIMITED SCALE AND INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT THAT COMES FORWARD.

IT DOES PROVIDE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN REAL ESTATE AND DRAWS BOTH, UH, JOBS AND, UH, PATIENTS TO THE CENTERVILLE AREA.

UM, IDEALLY THE LOCATION OF 2 88 AND BROAD STREET INTERCHANGE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE INTERCHANGE COMMERCIAL, UH, ZONING DISTRICT SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO BE IN THIS TYPE OF LOCATION.

THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, WAY BACK MARCH 14TH, 2023.

UH, 11 CITIZENS COMMISSIONER PATEK WERE PRESENT.

UH, REALLY THE COMMENTS WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT HOW'S IT OPERATING, WHAT'S THE TYPE BUSINESS, HOW MANY PATIENTS ARE ANTICIPATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS, TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS, IMPACT SPECIFICALLY ON THE BROAD STREET ROAD CROSSOVER.

UM, AND THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY.

AT ONE POINT, THE, THE

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BROAD STREET CROSS CROSSOVER, THERE WAS A U-TURN MOVEMENT THAT COULD BE PERMITTED.

UM, IF YOU THINK ABOUT ACROSS THE STREET, BROAD MEADOW'S, UM, OFFICE PARK AND, UH, BROADVIEW, UH, BELLEVUE GARDENS, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, I APOLOGIZE.

THERE WAS A U-TURN MOVEMENT THAT'S SINCE BEEN, UM, REMOVED BY VDOT, UM, FOR THAT TYPE OF, UM, SITUATION.

SO THAT LEFT TO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL THINGS.

UH, BACK IN MAY OF THIS YEAR, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID FORWARD A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, UH, FILED ZERO, AND NO ONE SPOKE AT THE COMMU AT THE, UM, PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A TWO STORY MEDICAL HOUSE BUILDING.

THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO MEET ORDINANCE.

ALL, ALL OUR RELATIVE CODES, UH, THE ELEVATIONS WERE PROFFERED.

WE'D STILL HAVE TO REVIEW THOSE IN COMPLIANCE WHEN THEY ARE SUBMITTED TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY MEET THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE OVERLAY.

UM, THERE IS A BUFFER REQUIRED ALONG BROAD STREET ROAD THAT IS PART OF THE OVERLAY PROVISIONS AS WELL.

WHAT MADE THIS KIND OF UNIQUE AND WHY IT'S TAKEN US SO LONG TO BRING THIS FORWARD IS THERE'S ACTUALLY, IF YOU SEE HERE, THERE'S A FEATURE THAT IS ON THE, THE CURRENT FEMA FLOODPLAIN MAT.

SO IT'S REALLY A FLOODPLAIN.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE A BELL CURVE IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY CAN BE LOCATED ANY BETTER TO PREVENT DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PROPERTY.

HOWEVER, WITH THE UPDATED MAPS THAT ARE COMING BEFORE YOU, UM, WE'RE, THEY'RE IN NOW THAN WE ANTICIPATE YOU'LL BE ADOPTING IN OCTOBER, UM, THAT THAT AREA HAS GONE AWAY.

STAFF FELT IT WAS COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT THAT WE COULD BRING FORWARD THE APPLICATION TO YOU RECOGNIZING ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE APPROVALS AND EVERYTHING, THE MAPS WILL BE IN PLACE AND THEY CAN PROCEED WITH THEIR DEVELOPMENT.

SHOULD THE APPLICATION BE APPROVED.

UH, AGAIN, THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN.

UM, PART OF THIS WILL ALL EVALUATE AT THE TIME ULTIMATELY OF WHEN IT COMES THROUGH FOR PLAN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW.

THIS IS THE ROADWAY, UM, THAT'S THE SERVICE ROAD.

THERE IS ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE CONNECTION TO THE PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY FROM THAT SERVICE ROAD, NOT FROM BROAD STREET ROAD.

UM, THEY'LL HAVE TO DO A LITTLE CUL-DE-SAC IMPROVEMENTS, SOME OTHER ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THAT ALLOW FOR THEIR ENTRY INTO THEIR USE, BUT ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, IT'S STILL STAYING OPEN FOR THE NURSERY USE THAT'S FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD.

THE APPLICANT HAS PROFIT ELEVATIONS.

PLEASE NOTE THESE ELEVATIONS ARE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS SUBMITTED AT THE TIME OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

HOWEVER, IT, THEY'RE GENERICALLY THE SAME.

I DID END UP SHARING THAT AT PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THE, THE PRE COULDN'T CHANGE THE PROFFERS AT THE LAST MINUTE TO DO THIS.

UM, AGAIN, THE ELEVATIONS WILL BE EVALUATED AT TIME OF, UM, OF COA.

SO WHOLE LIST OF PROFFERS HERE.

IT SAYS THEY'RE GIVING US A CONCEPT PLAN.

SECONDLY, THEY'RE GIVING US, UH, SOME ELEVATIONS TO DEMONSTRATE THE ARCHITECTURE.

THE ONE CHANGE FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROFFERS THAT WERE APPROVED IS THEY'VE CHANGED THE DATE TO THE MAY, 2024, WHICH IS THE, THE UPDATED ELEVATIONS WE JUST SHOWED.

UM, OF COURSE, STAFF IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE AND THEY, THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL, SHOULD THE BOARD DESIRE.

SIR.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS? MR. K? UH, COULD WE LOOK AT SLIDE FOUR? I'M JUST, I, I, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S LIKE AN ISLAND, UH, PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IT'S IN RED, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WHITE IS THE ACCESS ROAD YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE.

YEAH, THAT, THAT'S RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THAT, THAT WHITE IS THE ACCESS ROAD.

THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S RIGHT OF AWAY YELLOW ON THE FLOOD MAP.

IT SHOWED IT JUST THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING PLANNED FOR THAT? SO THE YELLOW IS ATTACHED, UM, FOR, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

ALSO, WHEN SHE GETS TO THE SOUTH, UM, PART OF THAT WE CAN LOOK BACK AT THE FLOODPLAIN.

SO THAT'S, THAT IS PART OF THEIR PROPERTY.

IF YOU CAN SEE NOW IN THE MAPS, THAT AREA TO THE SOUTH HERE, WHICH WAS THE YELLOW RIGHT DOWN HERE, THAT'S PRETTY RESTRAINED AND CONTAINED, UH, CONSTRAINED PROPERTIES FOR DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION, BUT IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT REALLY VIABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

SO NOTHING'S PLANNED.

THERE ARE NO PARKING, NO, UM, NOTHING'S PLANNED FOR THAT.

UH, I WOULD ANTICIPATE IF IMPROVEMENTS NEED TO BE DONE TO THE ROADWAY THAT'S, THAT PROPERTY'S AVAILABLE.

UM, BUT IT MAY REQUIRE FURTHER ACTION AND APPROVAL THROUGH FEMA.

BUT NO USE PROPOSED.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S PROBLEM.

THIS IS A VERY ISOLATED, THAT'S A HUGE AREA OF, UM, FLOODPLAIN AND OTHERS TO SORT OF ISOLATE THIS PROPERTY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. CASH? OKAY.

THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE EVIDENCE? AND I MAY HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO MR. CONLIN THAT I MAY HAVE.

I DON'T THINK I EVEN KNEW THAT SOMEHOW.

I MAY HAVE YOUR, YOU WANNA HAVE IT UP OR NO, I'M OKAY.

SAY THAT THE PROPERTY NOT ONLY IS WELL SITUATED, BEING ISOLATED IN ITS PROXIMITY TO THE PUBLIC ROAD NETWORK, BUT ALSO WITH RESPECT TO THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THIS MEDICAL OFFICE, UH, USE IS IN DEMAND, UH, IN THE AREA WILL PROVIDE A SERVICE, A VALUABLE SERVICE OF PULMONARY CARE, A SURGERY CENTER THAT IS NOT FOR OVERNIGHT STAY IN CARDIOLOGY, BUT WHEN DONE AND COMPLETED, THE BUILDING IN SITE ITSELF WILL BE A $20 MILLION INVESTMENT.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, ANDY CONLIN HERE ON BEHALF OF ROTH JACKSON, HAVE WITH ME JARED ANDERSON AND KATE LAFAYETTE.

UH, GIVEN THAT, UH, RECOGNITION THAT IT'S THE LAST CASE AND A LONG NIGHT, I'M HAPPY TO, UH, DISPENSE WITH, UH, MOST OF MY PRESENTATION AS MR. CASH REALLY CO DID A GREAT JOB OF ADDRESSING IT.

I WOULD JUST

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AND SO, GIVEN THE UNIQUE NATURE OF THIS PROPERTY, I THINK IT'S A GREAT USE.

IT'S NOT A, AN IMPACTFUL USE FROM A STANDPOINT OF, UH, IMPACTING THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, BUT IMPACTFUL WITH RESPECT TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO WITH THAT, I'D ASK YOU TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND APPROVE THIS CASE AT THIS TIME.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. CONMAN.

ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. CONMAN? YES, SIR.

UH, MR. ROLL.

I, I KNOW AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS THAT THE, UH, THE NURSERY, UH, CENTER, THEY WILL SOMETIMES HAVE TRUCKS COMING AT THREE IN THE MORNING AND WITH PLANTS FROM FLORIDA OR WHATEVER, RIGHT? THEY'RE BRINGING, AND THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

AND I HEARD A COMMENT THAT THIS HAS CHANGED AND THERE'S ACTUALLY KIND OF LIKE A STAGING AREA FOR THOSE TRUCKS OR THE ROAD'S BEEN IMPROVED, OR THERE'S A ROUND, NOT A ROUNDABOUT, BUT A HAS, HAS HAVE CHANGED, HAS BEEN MADE TO THAT ROAD THAT GOES BACK TO THE NURSERY SO THAT THE TRUCKS THAT ARE COMING AT THREE IN THE MORNING ARE NOT AN ISSUE EITHER FOR YOUR PROPERTY OR THE NURSERY, RIGHT? WELL, CERTAINLY THE, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE NURSERY USE, UH, THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

CURRENTLY.

THEY DON'T, I DON'T THINK FROM THAT STANDPOINT WE HAVEN'T HEARD THAT.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT ACCESS ROAD NECESSARY FOR PROVIDING FOR BOTH TRAFFIC OF, OF TRAFFIC FROM BOTH SITES AT THIS POINT.

SO AT THIS POINT, AND THAT WAS PART OF THE DELAY, NOT ONLY THE FEMA, BUT ALSO, UH, UH, CHANGE IN THE CONCEPT PLAN AND BEING ABLE WITH WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE CIRCULATION OF ONSITE ITSELF WITH THE TWO ACCESS POINTS.

SO WE FEEL LIKE, UH, THAT ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE NOT ONLY WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT ALSO WITH THE CHANGE IN HOW OUR LAYOUT OF OUR PROPERTY ITSELF AND WHAT HAPPENS ON THE NURSERY PROPERTY ONCE IT GETS PAST OUR SITE.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THEM.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S CHANGING FROM THAT STANDPOINT, FROM THEIR STAGING AREA AND HOW THEY FUNCTION ON THEIR PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE ACCOMMODATING THAT, THAT TRAFFIC, UH, WITH, WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE ACCESS ROAD.

, THANKS.

I WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR.

THANK YOU MR. COMMON, I'LL NOW OPEN FLORIDA PUBLIC COMMENTS.

SEEING NONE, UH, MS. MOORE, LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD MANNEQUIN SABOT.

I THINK IT'S WONDERFUL.

WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE CITY OF RICHMOND TO RECEIVE.

SO I AM ECSTATIC THAT WE WILL HAVE EASILY ACCESSIBLE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO TRAVEL, UH, 25 TO 30 MILES TO GET.

THANK YOU, MS. MOORE.

ANY ADDITIONAL? OKAY.

SEEING NO ADDITIONAL, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'LL NOW CLOSE THE COMMENTS.

MR. CASH, ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO COMMENT ON THAT YOU HEARD? YES, SIR.

I'M FOLLOWING, UM, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I I GENERALLY DON'T MAKE THE FIRST MOTION, BUT I WILL IN THIS STATE.

UH, I WILL DO IT.

UH, I WILL ASK MYSELF.

UH, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE REZONING RZ DASH 2023 DASH THREE FOR 3.45, TWO ACRES AT 12 7 0 5 BROAD STREET ROAD FROM RESIDENTIAL GENERAL R THREE TO INTERCHANGE COMMERCIAL B THREE WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.