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JUST LIKE, GOOD EVENING[1. Call To Order]
AND WELCOME.I NOW CALL TO ORDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR JULY.
MS. PARKER, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM? YES, SIR.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE INVOCATION.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO REPUBLIC STANDS, ONE NATION FOR GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[2. Pledge of Allegiance]
GRACIOUS GOD, THANK YOU FOR ENABLING US TO GATHER HERE[3. Invocation - Led By Ms. Kowalski]
TODAY.THANK YOU FOR THIS BODY OF PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE ORDAINED TO RULE THIS GREAT COUNTY.
NOW, AS WE GO ABOUT DOING THE BUSINESS SET FORTH TODAY, HELP US TO KEEP YOU FIRST IN EVERYTHING THAT WE SAY AND DO BLESS ALL WHO ARE IN AUTHORITY WITH THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE, WISDOM, AND UNDERSTANDING, SO THAT WE MAY PROSPER UNDER THEIR LEADERSHIP.
MOST OF ALL, BIND US TOGETHER IN A SPIRIT OF LOVE, WHICH SURPASSES ALL THINGS.
IT IS IN YOUR OMNIPOTENT NAME WE PRAY.
UH, HAS EVERYBODY HAD A CHANCE TO, UH, READ THE MINUTES, LOOK 'EM OVER.
[4. Approval of Minutes]
MOTION TO APPROVE.MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE, UH, MINUTES BE APPROVED FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
UM, WE'LL COME TO THE, UH, CITIZEN COMMENT TIME, AND IF YOU WISH TO DISCUSS
[5. Citizen Comment Period]
ANY ITEMS NOT LISTED ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, PLEASE COME FORWARD.STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
ANYBODY WANTS TO COME FORWARD? OKAY.
UM, MS. PARKER, ARE THERE ANY REQUESTS TO DEFER? WE HAVE NO REQUEST
[6. Requests to Defer, Additions, Deletions, or Changes to the Order of Public Hearings7. Public Hearing Items]
TO DEFER ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES TO THE ORDER OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TONIGHT IS IN DISTRICT THREE, CU 20 24 15, APPLICATION
[1. District 3 - CU-2024-00015 Application by Beverly Thurston requesting to renew conditional use permit (CUP) case CU-2019-00001 for short-term rental, unhosted, on 31.16 acres at 2151 Sheppard Town Road on Tax Map No. 43-1-0-86-0. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 in accordance with Sec. 15-285.G. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]
BY BEVERLY THURSTON REQUESTING TO RENEW CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT C-U-P-K-C 20 19 1 FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED ON 31.6 ACRES AT 2 1 5 1 SHEPP TOWN ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBER 43 1 0 86 0.THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED A TWO.
THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15 1 12 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 15 2 80 5G.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD.
I'M A PLANNER WITH THE COUNTY FOR YOU IS A APPLICATION BY BEVERLY THURSTON TO RENEW HER CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND HOST IT.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ON ABOUT 31 ACRES, UH, AT 2 1 5 1 SHEPHERD TOWN ROAD IN DISTRICT THREE.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED JUST EAST OF THE COURTHOUSE VILLAGE.
UM, THE PROPERTY CONTAINS TWO DWELLINGS AS WELL AS SEVERAL AGRICULTURAL BUILDINGS.
THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES EXHIBIT A RURAL CHARACTER.
THE PROPERTY IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE ZONED A TWO AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, AND THIS, UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AND THIS PROPERTY AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
A CUP FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 2019.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO RENEW THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE, BUT NOT THE PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY, UM, BEFORE USE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UM, LOCATED IN THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY IS THE APPLICANT'S, UH, DWELLING, PRINCIPAL DWELLING, AND THE, UM, DWELLING FOR THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE COVERED BY THE CP IS LOCATED RIGHT HERE.
UM, GIVEN THESE IMPOSED UH, CONDITIONS, THIS PROPOSAL IS GENERALLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THE APPLICANT HOSTED A COMMUNITY MEETING ON MAY 14TH, ONE CITIZEN ATTENDED, AND SHE WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE APPLICATION.
UH, STAFF HAS PROPOSED THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, WHICH HAVE BEEN BLACKLINED TO SHOW CHANGES FROM THE ORIGINAL CUP.
UM, THE USE FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS A SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED.
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OF FOUR OVERNIGHT GUESTS, AND THERE'LL BE A WORKING CARBON MONOXIDE AND SMOKE DETECTOR IN THE BUILDING.UM, THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE EMERGENCY ACCESS TO THE DWELLING, AMPLIFIED SOUND IS PROHIBITED OUTDOORS, AND NO OUTDOOR MUSIC AFTER 10:00 PM.
UM, THERE SHOULD BE NO, THERE SHOULD BE NO TRESPASSING SIGNS PLACED AROUND THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY, UH, SHALL MAINTAIN A RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE AND NO HUNTING OR DISCHARGING OF FIREARMS FOR GUESTS ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE GUESTS OF ALL THESE CONDITIONS ON THE FOLLOWING THREE SLIDES.
UH, THE, UM, FORMER, UH, CONDITIONS FOR THE PUBLIC PLACE OF ASSEMBLY USAGE THAT IS NOT BEING RENEWED WITH THIS APPLICATION.
LASTLY, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED A 10 YEAR, UM, EXPIRATION PERIOD, AND WE HAVE ALSO INCLUDED OUR STANDARD TRANSFER AND LEASE LANGUAGE, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
ANYBODY QUESTIONS FROM MR. MORALES? HAVE THERE, HAVE THERE, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY, UM, ANY INCIDENTS RELATED TO THEIR, UH, NO.
UH, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? YES.
PLEASE COME AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
BEVERLY THURSTON 2151 SHEPHERD TOWN ROAD.
AND ALL I WANNA DO IS THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS RENEWAL, AND I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF AND ESPECIALLY BEN WHO WALKED ME THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
SO IT'S A REAL PLEASURE TO LIVE IN GOOCHLAND.
I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
ANY QUESTIONS? I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2 2 4 0 0 0 1 5 FOR UNHOSTED SHORT-TERM RENTAL ON 31.16 ACRES AT 2 1 5 1 SHEPHERD TOWN ROAD.
SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS, OR NOPE, NOPE, SORRY.
SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024, WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TONIGHT IS IN DISTRICT TWO CU 20 24 17, APPLICATION BY NICHOLAS
[2. District 2 - CU-2024-00017 Application by Nicholas Flemion requesting to amend conditional use permit (CUP) case CU-2022-00011 to add contactor storage, small, on 2 acres at 3067 Three Chopt Road on Tax Map No. 21-6-0-1-0. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 in accordance with Sec. 15-283.I. The applicant is seeking 4 exceptions to Sec. 15-283.I to allow: 1) use on less than 3 acres, 2) building size greater than 2,500 square feet, 3) building setback less than 100 feet from property line, and 4) the number of vehicles and trailers to exceed standard. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]
IAN REQUESTING TO AMEND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU P CASE CU 20 22 11 TO ADD CONTRACTOR STORAGE SMALL ON TWO ACRES AT 30 67 3 CHOP ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBER 21 6 0 1.THE PROPERTY IS OWNED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED A TWO.
THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15 1 12.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 15 2 83 I, THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING FOUR EXCEPTIONS TO SECTION 15, 2 83 I TO ALLOW ONE USE OF LESS THAN THREE ACRES.
TWO BUILDING SIZE GREATER THAN 2,500 SQUARE FEET, THREE BUILDING SETBACKS LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE, AND FOUR, THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES AND TRAILERS TO EXCEED THE STANDARD.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I'M JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, AND OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING IS AN APPLICATION BY NICHOLAS FLEMING.
HE'S REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ADD A SMALL CONTRACTOR STORAGE BUILDING TO A EXISTING CUP FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN DISTRICT TWO, SO THE PROPERTY IS ON THREE CHOP ROAD, AS YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE RED CIRCLE IS.
IT IS LOCATED, UM, ADJACENT TO THE LOUISA COUNTY LINE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
THE AERIAL PICTURE SHOWS WHAT'S EXISTING ON THE PROPERTY TODAY.
UM, THERE IS A HOUSE THAT IS, UH, CLOSE TO, RELATIVELY CLOSE TO THE ROAD, UM, AND YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A SMALL SHED.
THE REST OF THE PROPERTY HAS A MATURE TREE STAND ON IT.
UM, I MENTIONED THAT IT IS ON THE LOUISA COUNTY LINE.
I HAVE OTHER GRAPHICS THAT SHOW IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT REALLY, UM, THIS IS THE ONLY ABUTTING PROPERTY THAT IS IN THE COUNTY,
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THIS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.SO, UH, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL, UH, LIMITED, WHICH ARE THE OTHER COUNTY GLAND COUNTY, UH, PROPERTIES ARE ALSO ZONED SIMILARLY, LOUISA COUNTY LINE IS, AND THE PROPERTIES IN LOUISA ARE DOTTED IN BLUE AND REPRESENTED, UH, AND ALL WHITE.
SO IT IS A LITTLE CONFUSING ON, UH, THE SECOND MAP.
BUT, UM, THE PROPERTIES IN LOUISA ARE ALSO ZONED AGRICULTURE PER THEIR ZONING DISTRICT.
ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, IT SHOWS THAT ALL OF OUR PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY IS, UH, DESIGNATED COMPREHEN, UH, DESIGNATED RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
IN 2021, THE APPLICANT WAS APPROVED FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT, SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED.
FOR THE EXISTING DWELLING, WHICH IS PICTURED, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE CUP TO ADD A SMALL CONTRACTOR STORAGE BUILDING TO SUPPORT HIS POWER WASHING BUSINESS.
THE APPLICANT HAS A HOME OC OCCUPATION, NOT AT THIS HOUSE, BUT ANOTHER HOUSE IN THE COUNTY.
HE USES THIS PROPERTY STRICTLY FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES.
AS MR. UH, FLEMING'S BUSINESS HAS GROWN, HE IS IN NEED OF SOMEWHERE TO STORE HIS VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT.
IN 2023, THE USE CONTRACTOR STORAGE SMALL WAS ADDED TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE IN AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
THE NEED WAS IDENTIFIED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO HELP SMALL CONTRACTORS GROW TO MID-SIZE BUSINESSES.
THE USE IS MEANT TO FILL A GAP BETWEEN THE BUSINESS, SMALL BUSINESS AND THOSE READY TO CONDUCT BUSINESS ON COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.
IN ADDITION TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THIS USE MUST ABIDE BY USE STANDARDS.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, THERE ARE 12.
THE USE STANDARDS ADDRESS THINGS SUCH AS, UM, THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND BUILDING THE TYPE AND NUMBER OF VEHICLES ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THESE STANDARDS ARE IMPOSED TO HELP MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
NUMBER 12 GIVES THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THE AUTHORITY TO GRANT EXCEPTIONS TO THESE STANDARDS THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.
SO, MR. FLEMING IS REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE, UM, THE, THE BUILDING.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS THE PROPERTY.
SO I'M GONNA TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SITE DETAILS.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS TWO ACRES.
THERE IS THE EXISTING HOUSE THAT I MENTIONED.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S USED FOR THE SHORT TERM RENTAL.
UM, A SMALL STORAGE SHED IS ALSO ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH, UM, MAY ACTUALLY IMPACT, UM, ACCESS.
THEY MAY, HE MAY HAVE TO ACTUALLY MOVE THAT IF THIS IS APPROVED.
UM, THE PROPERTY ACCESS, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE FROM THIS AERIAL, BUT THE PROPERTY DOES ACCESS FROM A DRIVEWAY THAT RUNS, UM, CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE JUST FROM A, FOR A REGULAR DRIVE DAY THAT SERVES THE HOUSE.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED, YOU CAN SEE IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON THIS, THE, UH, WHERE THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE IS FOR LUISA.
SO THIS PROPERTY AND THESE PROPERTIES ARE OURS AND THE COUNTY.
SO THIS IS A MARKUP OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
THE UNDERLYING CONCEPTUAL PLAN IS, UM, IN THE PACKET.
ALL I DID WAS, UH, IMPOSE SOME COLORS ON IT TO HELP KIND OF SEE WHAT, WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO THE EXISTING UNIT IS UP HERE IN THE, IN THE YELLOW.
THE, UM, IMPROVED DRIVEWAY, WHICH WILL HAVE TO BE IMPROVED TO FIRE CODE STANDARDS IS, UH, SHOWN IN RED.
THIS CONTINUED RED AREA IS THE PARKING AREA, WHICH WOULD, UM, BE GRAVEL IF THIS IS APPROVED.
HE'S REQUESTING A GRAVEL PARKING WAIVER.
AND THEN THE BUILDING ITSELF IS IN PURPLE.
YOU CAN SEE A DOTTED GREEN LINE.
UH, THIS HELPS TO SEE WHAT THE 35 FOOT SETBACK WOULD BE.
AND THERE ARE PRIVATE UTILITIES ON THE PROPERTY, SO THAT DOES IMPACT SOME OF THE CLEARING.
YOU HAVE THE EXISTING, UH, DRAIN FIELD FOR THE, THE HOUSE THAT'S EXISTING.
AND THEN YOU HAVE A DRAIN FIELD BACK HERE.
CURRENTLY, YOU CAN SEE IT IS SHOWN WITHIN THE, UM, THE BUFFER.
MR. IAN IS AWARE THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OCCUR AND IT WILL BE MOVED.
UM, WHEN, WHEN IT IS CONSTRUCTED, IT WON'T BE IN THERE.
SO I MENTIONED THEY, UM, HAVE THE, UM, THE BUFFERING.
I SHOWED IT TO YOU IN THE, IN THE PREVIOUS.
SO THE BUFFERING IS NOT SHOWN ON HERE, BUT IT WOULD BASICALLY ANY, ANY PLACE BEHIND THE, UM, THE DRAIN FIELD WOULD STAY UNCLEARED.
AND THEN, UH, THERE'D BE A, AN OPENING TO GET TO THE, UM, THE BUSINESS SITE.
AND THEN OF COURSE, BEHIND THE, UM, THE BUSINESS THERE WOULD BE THE CLEARING FOR THE DRAIN FIELD.
SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUILDING, UH, OR A MARKUP OF THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
UM, HE IS PROPOSING A 5,750 SQUARE FOOT
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BUILDING.I MENTIONED THAT THE, UM, PARKING WOULD BE GRAVEL IF GRANTED THE PARKING WAIVER.
HE DOES PROPOSE TO HAVE ELECTRICITY.
UM, HE WOULD BE DOING THIS SO THAT THERE COULD BE A BATHROOM LOCATION.
THERE IS NO OFFICE ALLOWED, BUT, UM, HE WOULD BE, UH, ABLE TO STORE HIS VEHICLES AND HIS, UM, EQUIPMENT THERE.
SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING FOUR EXCEPTIONS WITH THIS APPLICATION.
THE FIRST EXCEPTION IS FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE LESS THAN THREE ACRES.
UM, AS PART OF THE STANDARD CONDITIONS, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS, UM, PROPOSED.
UM, THE STANDARD IS FOR IT TO BE TWO ACRES.
THE SECOND EXCEPTION IS FOR THE REQUEST FOR THE MINIMUM BEL BUILDING SETBACK TO BE 100 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE, HE IS PROPOSING A 30 FOOT, UM, 35 FOOT, UH, SETBACK, WHICH IS THE BASE SETBACK FOR THE ZONING DISTRICT.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE AERIAL, UM, THERE IS A ROUGH AREA WHERE THE LOCATION OF THE, UM, BUILDING WOULD BE, AND THE CLOSEST HOUSE WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 80 FEET, UH, FROM THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, REQUESTING AN EXCEPTION TO THE BUILDING SIZE REQUIREMENTS.
UH, THE STANDARD IS 2,500 SQUARE FEET.
UM, MR. FLEMING IS REQUESTING FOR THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING TO BE MORE THAN TWICE THE DOUBLE OF THE STANDARD.
THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES, UH, TO EXCEED TWO IS A STANDARD.
HE IS, UM, NO, TWO IS THE STANDARD.
HE'S REQUESTING THAT HE HAVE, UH, BE ALLOWED FOUR.
HE CURRENTLY HAS THREE AND WOULD LIKE TO, UM, HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO GROW A LITTLE, UM, WITH THIS BUSINESS AND GET ONE MORE VEHICLE.
THE LIMITATIONS ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ARE INTENDED TO LIMIT THE INTENSITY OF THE BUSINESS IN A NON-COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
SO THOSE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, UM, WHEN DELIBERATING THESE EXCEPTIONS.
SO OUTSTANDING CONCERNS, UH, THERE ARE, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE, THE BUILDING IS ORIENTED AWAY FROM THE CLOSEST RESIDENTS, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND THE DECREASED SETBACKS INCREASE THE POTENTIAL OF NOISE AND VISUAL IMPACT TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL LOT, ALLOWING THE LARGE BUILDING AND ADDITIONAL VEHICLES MAY EXCEED THE INTENT OF THE SMALL CONTRACTOR STORAGE USE ON A PROPERTY OF THIS SIZE.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
UM, IT, UM, SHOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE AREA, IS WHAT IT SAYS IN THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
UH, AND PROPERLY DESIGNED AND OPERATED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE IMPOSED CONDITION.
IT COULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COMP PLAN DESIGNATION.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING BACK IN MAY.
NO ONE OTHER THAN COUNTY OFFICIALS ATTENDED.
AND, UH, NO ONE, WE HAVE NE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THIS APPLICATION.
SO THERE ARE 19, UM, CONDITIONS WITH THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO SEPARATE USES.
UM, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY, BUT PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP ME.
SO THERE ARE NO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
EVERYTHING IS STAYING EXACTLY THE SAME.
UM, SO FOR BOTH USES AS WE COMBINE THEM, THEY'LL NEED TO HAVE THAT EMERGENCY ACCESS THAT I MENTIONED.
UH, THIS WOULD BE A COM A COMBINED A FIVE YEAR EXPIRATION DATE, AND THEN OF COURSE, OUR STANDARD TRANSFER OR LEASE FOR THE SHORT TERM.
SO IF, UH, UNLESS YOU HAVE, UM, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, I WON'T GO THROUGH 'EM.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE AND THE SEPTIC, THEY ARE, UH, MAXED OUT AT FOUR GUESTS.
UH, AGAIN, THE NO TRESPASSING, NO HUNTING, AND, UH, IMPORTANT TO NOTICE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STAYING AT THE, THE RENTAL THAT THEY NEED TO ABIDE BY THE RULES.
THEN WE GET TO THE SMALL CONTRACTOR.
SO THE USE, UH, WOULD BE ALLOWED PER, UH, NUMBER 12, UM, BASED ON THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT I PRESENTED, THE UNMARKED VERSION WOULD BE, UM, A CONDITION, UH, THEY WOULD REQUIRE TO GO BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, UH, BEFORE THEY WERE ABLE TO START THIS ACTIVITY.
SCREENING FOR THE STORAGE BUILDING WOULD BE BY THE, UM, EXISTING, UH, TREE STAND.
UH, THE ENTRANCE WOULD BE, UM, OPEN, BUT IT'S FAR OFF FROM THE PROPERTY.
SO, UM, A GATE, UM, MR. FLEMMING WASN'T SURE IF HE WAS GONNA PUT A GATE UP OR NOT, UM, BUT IT WOULD BE SET BACK.
UM, DRAIN FIELDS OF COURSE WOULD BE, UM, AREA IN THE BACK THAT WOULD BE MOVED, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD REMAIN.
UM, SO NOW WE GET TALKING ABOUT THE EXCEPTION.
SO NUMBER 16, IF THE, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AS IS NUMBER 16, WOULD ALLOW FOR THE EXCEPTION TO THE THREE ACRES TO ALLOW TWO ACRES.
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17, THE BUILDING SIZE EXCEPTION.THIS WOULD ALLOW, UM, FOR IT TO BE, UH, 7,500, UH, SQUARE FEET INSTEAD OF THE 2,500 THAT IS, UM, UH, THE STANDARD.
AND I DO NOTICE THAT THERE'S A TYPO IN NUMBER 17, SO I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT STRAIGHT.
UM, THE BUILDING EXCEPTION, UH, SAYS AT LEAST 100 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
MR. UM, FLEMING IS REQUESTING A 35 FOOT SET FOOT BUILDING SETBACK VEHICLES EXCEPTIONS, UH, FOR, UH, OUR PURPOSES.
THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE TWO WORK VEHICLES HE IS REQUESTING FOR.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
MR. FLEMMI IS IN THE AUDIENCE AS WELL TO ANSWER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION AS WELL.
UM, THE PROPERTY NEXT TO HIS, IS THERE A HOUSE ON THAT? SOMEBODY LIVING THERE, OR IS THERE AN EMPTY LOT? NO, IT IS, THERE IS A DWELLING AND IT LINES UP PRETTY MUCH WITH THE, UM, UH, WITH THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
MR HAS MENTIONED TO ME, AND I'M SURE HE CAN SPEAK TO IT, THAT HE HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT.
UM, NEIGHBOR, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED A LETTER OF SUPPORT OR A LETTER OF OPPOSITION FROM, FROM THE APPLICANT'S NEIGHBOR.
UM, ANY OF THE CONTRACTORS WHO GET PERMITTED FOR THIS ARE RESTRICTED TO COME THERE, UH, PARK THEIR PERSONAL CARS, GET IN THE VEHICLE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME MINOR LOADING OF THE EQUIPMENT ONTO THE VEHICLE.
THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES ARE REALLY WHAT IT'S INTENDED.
THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE DOING ANY BUSINESS USE.
UM, THE, IT'S NOT AS, UM, PREVALENT OF A CONCERN IN THIS CONDITION.
I MEAN, FOR, FOR THIS ONE, WE HAVE HAD OTHERS WHERE WE THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WERE TO BE WANTING TO REPAIR VEHICLES OR OTHER THAN LIKE YOUR, YOUR REGULAR MAINTENANCE, UM, OF LIKE CHANGING THE OIL OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CONSIDER LIKE SMALL MAINTENANCE WOULD BE ALLOWED.
DO YOU BY CHANCE KNOW THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING THAT'S PROPOSED? I KNOW IT WAS, I KNOW IT'S IN THE IMAGE, AND IF NOT, I CAN ASK THE APPLICANT AND I CAN'T SEE THAT FAR.
I, I HAVE IT IN THE, UM, IN THE APPLICATION.
I CAN, I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU WHILE HE'S SPEAKING.
KING, IS THAT A BASEBALL FIELD NEXT DOOR? IS THAT
SO THE, UM, THE NEIGHBOR ACTUALLY HAS A, UH, A TURF BUSINESS THAT IS LIKE HIS SHOWROOM FOR A BASEBALL TO, FOR SELLING TURF TO BASEBALL, UM, COMPANIES.
THERE'S ACTUALLY, THE, THE TURF IS TURF AREA IS UP HERE.
AND THEN, UM, THEY HAVE A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE THAT'S ALSO BACK THERE ON ALL ON THE SAME PROPERTY, WHICH I THINK IS WHY MR. FLEMING HAD, UH, CHANGED THE DIRECTION OF THE, UM, THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
IT WAS ORIGINALLY FACING THE MAIN, MAIN ROAD.
SO WHAT IS THE, THE TIMEFRAME OF THE BUSINESS? IS IT, YOU KNOW, THEY START AT 7 30, 8 9 IN THE MORNING TO THERE, THERE ARE NO, UM, HOURS OF OPERATION AS PART OF THE STANDARDS.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD IMPOSE.
UH, BUT THE INTENT IS THAT THEY'RE JUST COMING, DROPPING OFF AND LEAVING.
THERE IS A RESTRICTION ON HAVING OUTSIDE LIGHTING.
SO THAT KIND OF LIMITS A WHOLE LOT OF OUTDOOR ACTIVITY THAT THEY COULD DO.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE IMPOSED.
JUST CAN I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE SCREENING NUMBER 12 MM-HMM.
SO THE, UM, YEAH, THE EXISTING TREES ARE GONNA BE, UM, USED AS PART OF THE SCREENING.
AND, AND HOW, HOW ARE, HOW IS THE COUNTY ASSURED THAT, THAT THOSE WON'T JUST BE REMOVED? SO, UM, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
SO AS PART OF THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, UM, WHEN IT COMES IN, IT WILL SHOW LIKE WHERE THOSE TREES NEED TO BE RETAINED.
UM, AS PART OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
FORGIVE ME, I KIND OF WENT OVER IT VERY QUICKLY.
UM, IF THERE IS A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS AT THAT TIME, WE WOULD SAY, OKAY, THIS ISN'T ENOUGH.
YOU NEED TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL TREES PUT IN OR LAND ADDITIONAL LAND LANDSCAPING.
AND THEN, UM, PART OF THE AGREEMENT, BOTH THROUGH THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THROUGH THE CONDITIONS THAT HE HAS TO MAINTAIN IT AND HE CAN'T CLEAR IT.
SO IF HE DOES, HE'S IN VIOLATION.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD KNOW PERHAPS IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE, IF A, IF A NEIGHBOR CALLED OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO THEN YOU WOULD, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULDN'T, THE COUNTY WOULD MONITOR, BUT IF THE NEIGHBORS, UH, SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPEN THAT THEY WOULD YES.
AT THAT, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE, UH, ARE GENERALLY, UM, COMPLAINT BASED.
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SHERRY.WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING? UH, MY NAME'S NICHOLAS FLEMING AND I LIVE AT, UH, 37 62 COUNTY LINE ROAD IN KENT STORE.
UM, AND I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT YEAH, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE.
UM, THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS 18 FEET TALL.
UM, AND THEN I KIND OF FORGOT A COUPLE OF THOSE OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT HAVE
UM, SINCE THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS DOUBLE WHAT THE STANDARD IS, WILL THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING BE SUFFICIENT FOR YOUR FUTURE USE? SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU, YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THIS NAIL, BUT LET'S SAY FIVE YEARS FROM NOW AS YOUR BUSINESS INCREASES, IS THAT STILL SUFFICIENT OR WOULD YOU HAVE TO COME BACK OR GO TO ANOTHER LOCATION? HOW, HOW DO YOU VISION THAT F FROM EVERYTHING I SAY, IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE SUFFICIENT.
UM, I'M, I KIND OF WANTED TO BUILD IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER SO THAT WE COULD GROW INTO IT.
UM, BUT I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE REGULATIONS, WE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH GOING ON THERE.
UM, BUT YEAH, I, THAT WOULD BE MY PLAN IS AT LEAST THREE TO FIVE YEARS OF GROWTH.
UM, AND THEN IF WE HAD TO MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE DOWN THE ROAD, WE COULD, UM, BUT I MEAN, I, I'VE JUST TALKED SOME OF THESE GUYS OVER THE PAST LIKE TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR LAND.
I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN KNOCKING ON DOORS, MAKING CALLS, LIKE IT'S CRAZY.
SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT LED TO THIS.
UM, BUT UH, YEAH, I THINK DEFINITELY SUFFICIENT FOR THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
UM, I MEAN, WE HAVE A COUPLE TRUCKS NOW.
I WOULDN'T SUSPECT IT'D GET MUCH MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, ONE OR SO MORE.
UM, BUT THAT'S KIND OF WHY THE SIZE IS THERE.
UM, SO THAT WE CAN PARK THE VEHICLES.
AND THEN, YEAH, THERE'S REALLY NO LIKE, DAILY OPERATIONS GOING ON.
IT'D PRETTY MUCH JUST BE LIKE, YOU SHOW UP IN THE MORNING, YOU PICK UP THE TRUCK, YOU'RE GONE FOR SEVEN TO EIGHT HOURS, UM, AND THEN YOU COME BACK, YOU DROP OFF THE TRUCK AND YOU LEAVE.
UM, THE BUILDING JUST NEEDS TO BE THAT SIZE BECAUSE MY TRUCK'S BASICALLY, I GOTTA ANTIFREEZE 'EM IN THE WINTER TIME.
IT'S BASICALLY A HUGE HEADACHE.
UM, SO HAVING SOMETHING INSIDE THAT I DON'T HAVE TO ANTIFREEZE IS GREAT, JUST, IT SAVES US A TON OF TIME AND JUST RESOURCES AND ALL THAT STUFF.
UM, BUT THE SIZE NEEDS TO BE THERE JUST SO THAT VEHICLES CAN ACTUALLY PARK INSIDE.
SO, YOU KNOW, NONE OF THE TRUCKS ARE GONNA BE SITTING AROUND OUTSIDE.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, THE SCREENING WITH ALL THE TREES ON ALL FOUR SIDES WILL BE THERE.
UM, AS SHE MENTIONED, WE HAVE AN AIRBNB IN THE FRONT OF THE HOU OR THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, SO IT'S IN MY BEST INTEREST TOO, THAT BASICALLY NO ONE KNOWS THIS BUILDING EXISTS.
I MEAN, I WANT IT TO BE FULLY SCREENED, LIKE REGARDLESS OF THE COUNTY'S RECOMMENDATION OR, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER I WAS REQUIRED TO DO, I WOULD BE PUTTING TREES UP ANYWAYS JUST 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STAYING IN THAT HOUSE TO, YOU KNOW, SEE A BUILDING BACK THERE.
UM, WE'RE REALLY COOL WITH THE NEIGHBOR.
I, LIKE I SAID, I'VE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THE BUILDING.
HE'S A NICE GUY, ACTUALLY, HIS SON STAYING IN THE HOUSE AND LIKE, I'M LIKE, THAT'S KIND OF COOL
BUT, UH, BUT ANYWAY, SO YEAH, HE'S, HE'S A REAL NICE GUY.
AND THERE'S ALSO MATURE FOLIAGE ON BOTH OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THIS ONE.
SO EVEN IF WE CLEAR OUT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY TREES IN THE MIDDLE TO PUT THE BUILDING, WE STILL HAVE TREE COVER AND THEN ALSO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT TREE COVER AS WELL.
SO YOU DID HAVE A PRESENTATION.
OH YEAH, SORRY, I GET LIKE THAT SOMETIMES.
YEAH, I MEAN, I'D LIKE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, UM, AS SOON AS IT COULD BE APPROVED.
UM, I, I'VE KIND OF GOT EVERYTHING IN PLACE, YOU KNOW, JUST IF IT WAS APPROVED.
UM, SO I MEAN, YEAH, I'D LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, START WORKING ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DATE WOULD BE FOR THAT, BUT AS SOON AS IT WOULD BE APPROVED, I'D LIKE TO START WORKING ON IT.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT, I WOULD GUESS A COUPLE MONTHS UNTIL IT WAS COMPLETED SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE, JUST DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, HOW OFF, HOW QUICKLY I CAN GET PEOPLE THERE.
UM, AND THEN, YEAH, LIKE THE DRAIN FIELD.
YEAH, THAT WOULDN'T BE HARD TO MOVE.
THAT WAS JUST KIND OF A CONCEPTUAL, I MEAN, EVERYTHING ON THAT'S ACCURATE.
BUT A FEW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN OBVIOUSLY TWEAK ANYTHING THAT WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, UM, BUT YEAH, THAT WOULD BE MY, YOU KNOW, ROUGH ESTIMATE.
I WILL NOW OPEN FOR PUBLIC SPEAKING.
ANYBODY WANT TO COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THIS OR SAY SOMETHING? NO.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION, UM, I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION OR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER CU 2 0 2 4 0 1 7 FOR SMALL CONTRACTOR STORAGE ON TWO ACRES AT 30 67 3 CHOP ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE OPPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
THE MO, THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024, WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM IS DISTRICT FOUR CU 20 24 16,
[3. District 4 - CU-2024-00016 Application by Luck Stone Corporation d/b/a Luck Companies requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for a quarry on 70.18 acres east of Ashland Road on Tax Map No. 48-1-0-73-E. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2) and Industrial, General (M-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Secs. 15-112 and 15-272 in accordance with Sec. 15-283.F. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Flexible Use.]
APPLICATION BY LUX STONE CORPORATION, DBA LUCK COMPANIES REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, CUP FOR USES ACCESSORY TO A QUARRY ON 70 POINT 18 ACRES[00:30:01]
EAST OF ASHLAND ROAD ON TAX NUMBER 48 1 0 73 E.THE PROPERTY IS OWNED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO AND INDUSTRIAL GEN GENERAL M TWO.
THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTIONS 15 1 12 AND 15 2 72.
AND ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 15,283 F.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS FLEXIBLE USE.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, TOM COLEMAN, PRINCIPAL PLANNER, UM, AS WAS INTRODUCED, UH, THIS IS A, A CONDITIONS PERMIT REQUEST FOR USES ACCESSORY COURT OPERATIONS.
IT DOES HAVE TWO ZONINGS ON THE PROPERTY.
BOTH DISTRICTS ALLOW THESE ACTIVITIES WITH APPROVAL OF USE PERMIT.
THIS IS LOCATED IN THE FAR SORT OF NORTHEASTERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.
UM, LOOKING AT THE A PHOTO, UM, SEE THAT THE EXISTING SITE IS UNDEVELOPED, THERE'S A 6 23 LANDFILL, UH, THAT BUST THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
UM, AND ALSO ONE CONSIDERATION, YOU NOTICE THE YELLOW LINE THERE, THE PROPERTY DOES ABUT HENRICO COUNTY TO THE EAST.
UM, AND THE USES IN HENRICO COUNTY REFLECT, UH, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER.
UM, AGAIN, BACK TO THE ZONING, UH, THE NORTH SORT OF WEST SECTION OF THE PROPERTY AND THOSE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ZONED INDUSTRIALLY AND THE KIND OF SOUTHEAST PORTION AND THOSE, UH, PROPERTIES IN GOIN COUNTY TO THE SOUTH ARE ALSO ZONED AGRICULTURALLY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED AS FLEXIBLE AND THE CONFERENCE OF PLAN, UM, THE FLEXIBLE DESIGNATION SUPPORTS OFFICE, OFFICE SERVICE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES.
TALK A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, THE HISTORY OF THE AREA AND SORT OF THE, UM, UM, SOME OF THE USES.
THE DESP DISPARATE USES THAT AROUND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN A QUARRY IN OPERATION FOR ABOUT 60 YEARS, AND THAT'S DESIGNATED ON THIS, UH, GRAPHIC AS THE LUX STONE QUARRY.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN A LANDFILL IN OPERATION, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, BUDDING THIS PROPERTY FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS, AND THAT'S DESIGNATED AS THE 6 23 LANDFILL.
AND I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE PROPERTIES AND IN RIKER COUNTY OR PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, FEATURES PRIMARILY TWO SUBDIVISIONS.
ONE SUBDIVISION WAS DEVELOPED, UH, IN THE 1970S AND THE OTHER IN THE 20 TEENS.
UM, AND THEN, UH, NOT A, NOT A BUDDING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OF THIS EVENING, BUT A BUDDING LUCK PROPERTY TO THE NORTH.
THERE'S ANOTHER QUARRY DESIGNATED AS THE VULCAN QUARRY ON THAT GRAPHIC.
AND THEN LEHIGH PAVING HAS AN ASPHALT PLANT.
ALSO, LOOKING BACK AT KIND OF THE HISTORY, UM, OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BETWEEN 2011 AND 2012, THERE WAS A SERIES OF REZONING AND CONDITION CONDITIONS, PERMIT APPROVALS, UH, FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
UM, AND IF YOU, I'M GONNA, THIS GRAPHIC WILL OCCUR A COUPLE TIMES, UM, IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES THAT WERE APPROVED WITH THOSE APPROVALS.
SOME BAR PIT OPERATIONS, STONE PROCESSING, SOME SUBSTANTIAL BUFFERS, UM, MATERIALS RECYCLING FACILITY.
AND, UM, ON THESE APPLICATIONS, 6 23 LANDFILL WAS THE APPLICANT ON SOME OF THEM AND LUCK.
AND 6 23 WERE CO-APPLICANT ON SOME OF THEM.
NOW, THE APPLICATION BEFORE EACH DAY DOES NOT IMPACT ANY OF THE PREVIOUS APPROVALS ON THE ABIDING PROPERTIES.
IT ONLY IMPACTS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE, UM, PRESENTED.
UM, TONIGHT, UM, ONE OF THE KEY ELEMENTS OF THE, THE ZONING APPROVALS FROM 2011 TO 2012 WERE SUBSTANTIAL BUFFERS, UM, THAT WERE PROVIDED.
UM, LOOKING AT THE GRAPHIC, THE DARK GREEN AREA ALONG THE FAR EDGE, WHICH REALLY ABUTS, UM, UH, HENRICO COUNTY THAT, UM, IS AGRICULTURALLY THE, KIND OF THE NORTHERN OVAL THERE WHERE YOU SEE SOME GREEN AND PURPLE TOGETHER.
UM, THAT IS A, IT'S A BASE REQUIREMENT FOR A THREE 50 FOOT BUFFER, BUT THERE WAS AN OPTION TO INSTALL A BERM AND REDUCE THAT AND HAVE A GRAPHIC THAT SERIES THAT LATER.
BUT THAT IS OFFSITE, AND AGAIN, THAT'S NOT SUBJECT TO THIS APPLICATION, BUT FOR THIS APPLICATION YOU'LL SEE A SOLID GREEN THREE 50.
UH, SO THAT BUFFER WAS PROVIDED FOR IN THE REZONING, AND THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO REDUCE THAT BUFFER WITH THIS APPLICATION.
UM, THIS IS THE, THE EXCEPTIONAL PLAN.
THEY UP THEIR APPLICATION, UM, SORT OF BIG PICTURE, THEY'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE FOUR THINGS.
UM, THEY REALLY, IN THEIR PREVIOUS APPLICATIONS WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING BRA PET ACTIVITIES, AND THEY DO WANNA, UM, SUPPLEMENT THOSE ACTIVITIES WITH OVERBURDENED STOCKPILES.
UM, THEY ARE GOING TO INCORPORATE A BERM INTO THEIR OVERBURDENED STOCKPILE.
AND IN THE PREVIOUS APPROVALS IT WAS REALLY PRESENTED AS A SEPARATE BERM.
UM, THE AREA FOR THE OVER BURN PLACEMENT IS A LITTLE LARGER, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAN WOULD'VE BEEN APPROVED BEFORE.
AND I'VE GOT A GRAPHIC THAT SHOWS THAT LATER.
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AND THEN AT THE SAME, THE AREA FOR THE STONE PROCESSING, THEY'RE EXPANDING THAT AREA TO A LARGER AREA THAT WAS APPROVED BEFORE.AS I'LL START WITH THE, UH, THE BOTTOM.
THE BOTTOM IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING WITH THEIR APPLICATION.
UM, YOU'LL NOTE THAT, UM, UM, THE, THE SORT OF THE COLOR PICTURE THERE ON THE BOTTOM, UH, THERE, IT'S A 350 FOOT BERM.
IT WOULD FEATURE 50 FEET OF UNDISTURBED, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, PLANTINGS OR UNDISTURBED AREA ADJACENT TO THE HENRICO COUNTY LAWN.
AND THEN THEY WOULD PUT THAT FIRST, UM, BERM FOR THE 300 FEET.
SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, THEY WOULD INCORPORATE THAT BERM INTO THE OVER BURN PLACEMENT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT GRAPHIC, UM, BESIDE THAT SHOWS IS THAT THAT BERM, UH, WILL BE THE FIRST PHASE.
THEY'LL BACKFILL THAT WITH SOME OVER BURN.
WE'VE GOT ANOTHER GRAPHIC THAT'LL SHOW THAT.
AND, UM, SO THEY WILL REPEAT THAT PROCESS SEVERAL TIMES.
THE GRAPHIC ON THE, THE, UM, TOP, THAT'S WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT IF THEY, WHILE THEY WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE A THREE 50 FOOT BERM UP THERE, THEY COULD, OR THREE 50 FOOT BUFFER, EXCUSE ME, THEY COULD REDUCE THAT IF THEY INSTALLED A BERM.
AND THAT'S JUST THE, WHAT THE GRAPHIC LOOKED LIKE WITH THAT PREVIOUS APPROVAL.
YEAH, CONTINUING, AS I TALKED ABOUT THE PHASING, THE ONE AT THE TOP THAT KIND OF SHOWS WHERE PHASE ONE THEY'LL INSTALL A BERM AND THEN KIND OF IN PHASE TWO THEY WOULD BACKFILL THAT WITH OVERBURDEN.
UM, THEN THEY WOULD COME IN WITH PHASE THREE, INSTALL A SECOND BERM, AND THEN THEY WOULD BACKFILL THAT WITH OVERBURDEN.
SO YOU, THEY REPEAT THAT PROCESS SEVERAL STEPS.
SO WHILE THE OVERBURDENED STOCKPILE WILL BE GETTING SUBSTANTIALLY TALLER, IT'LL ALSO BE MOVING SUBSTANTIALLY WEST AS IT GETS TALLER.
UM, AS FAR AS THE AREAS WITH OVERBURDEN PLACEMENT, AGAIN LOOKING AT THE COLOR GRAPHIC, THE AREA THAT WAS IN LIGHT GREEN, UM, WHILE IT WAS ZONED AGRICULTURALLY, IT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR ANY CUP ACTIVITIES, IT WOULD'VE BEEN JUST RESTRICTED TO WHATEVER WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
WITH THIS APPLICATION, THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO SOME OF THOSE OVERBURDEN ACTIVITIES WITHIN THAT LIGHT GREEN AREA.
SO THAT WOULD EXPAND THE AREA WHERE THEY COULD CONDUCT THE CUP ACTIVITIES WITH THIS APPLICATION.
UM, AGAIN, THE, UM, THE, UH, THE, THE PRESENTATION THAT HAS THE, THE 2012 STONE CRUSHING AREA, AGAIN, THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2012.
THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO TO AMEND THAT AT ALL.
BUT WITH THIS APPLICATION, LOOKING AT THE AREA UNDER THE 2024, THAT PINK AREA ABUTS THAT AREA.
SO WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING TO DO IS TO EXTEND THE AREA WHERE THEY COULD DO THE STONE PROCESSING.
UM, AND THEY WOULD THOSE AREAS ABUT EACH OTHER.
SO THE ACTIVITIES WOULD BE COMMINGLED.
BUT AGAIN, THIS, UM, APPLICATION ONLY ADDRESSES THE AREA THAT'S KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW DASH LINES.
AND THE, UM, THE, UM, THE, THE MASTER PLAN THAT THEY HAVE, UM, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD IN MAY.
UM, THERE WERE ABOUT 29 INDIVIDUALS FROM THE COMMUNITY.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE WERE RESIDENTS, UH, FROM THOSE COMMUNITIES IN HENRICO COUNTY.
THERE WERE ABOUT 15 LUCK, UH, UH, COMPANIES, ASSOCIATES, UH, SUPERVISORS, MR. LYES AND MR. WINFREY THAT WERE THERE, UH, FROM HENRICO COUNTY, UH, SUPERVISOR MS. WHITEHEAD WAS THERE.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER COSBY WAS PRESENT.
I HAVE ABOUT THREE PAGES OF BULLET POINTS, SO I'M NOT GONNA READ THROUGH THOSE BULLET POINTS.
I'LL, I'LL SILENTLY READ THROUGH THEM AND LET, UH, YOU SOLEMNLY READ THROUGH THEM.
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SO THERE'S A SORT OF CONCLUDING THIS PART, KIND OF SOME OF THE KEY POINTS THAT ARE RELATED TO THIS APPLICATION.UM, THEY PREVIOUSLY PLANNED TO USE FOR USES ACCESSORY TO CORY OPERATIONS.
THEY CONTINUE TO WANT TO USE IT FOR THOSE TYPES OF USES.
UM, THE 3 55 WIDE BUFFER THAT WAS APPROVED WITH REZONING, UM, WILL CONTINUE TO EXIST.
UH, 50 OF THAT WOULD BE, UH, UNDISTURBED, VEGETATED BUFFER ALONG THE BOARD WITH NORCO COUNTY.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE A 300 FOOT WIDE BERM TOTALING THREE 50 FEET.
UH, THE BERM, THE BERMS WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE OVER BURN STOCKPILE.
YOU KNOW, AS I SHOWED YOU IN PHASE ONE, UM, THE AREA FOR THE OVER BURN STOCKPILES WOULD INCREASE AT LEAST AS WHAT WAS APPROVED IN THE PREVIOUS ONE.
THAT'S THAT LIGHT GREEN AREA THAT I HIGHLIGHTED EARLIER.
UM, THE OVER BURN STOCK PILES WOULD BE A MAXIMUM OF 150 FEET IN HEIGHT.
UM, I MENTIONED EARLIER THE PHASING PLAN, WHILE IT DOESN'T GREET THE INCREASE THE HEIGHT OF THE OVER BURN STOCKPILES, THEY'LL BE MOVING AWAY FROM THE COUNTY AS THEY GET HIGHER.
UM, THEY ARE LOOKING TO INCREASE THE AREA FOR THE STONE PROCESSING.
UM, BUT THAT WOULD BE LOCATED ALONG THE WESTERN EDGE OF THEIR PROPERTY AND AWAY FROM HENRICO COUNTY.
UM, AND ALSO I DIDN'T MENTION THAT A, THE, UM, ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY IS INTERNAL TO LUX STONE.
SO THAT WHILE THERE IS SOME EMERGENCY ACCESS ACCESS ONLY INTO HENRICO COUNTY ROADS, UM, THE, THE ACCESS TO THIS SITE TO ASHLAND ROAD IS, IS UTILIZING THE EXISTING LUCK PROPERTY I MENTIONED EARLIER THE, UH, IT IS DESIGNATED FOR FLEXIBLE AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THAT DOES TYPICALLY SUPPORT OFFICE, COMMERCIAL, OFFICE SERVICE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES.
UM, TO COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE CP CONDITIONS ARE INTENDED TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS TO THE, TO THE NEARBY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
UM, AND AS CURRENTLY CONDITIONED, THE USES WOULD GENERALLY BE CONSISTENT WITH COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND NOW AS A MOVE INTO THE CONDITIONS, UH, THE FIRST ONE WOULD ALLOW THE, UH, USES ACCESSORY TO THE QUARRY OPERATION.
THE SECOND ONE JUST REAFFIRMS THAT THE PROFITS APPROVED WITH THE ZONING CASES DO APPLY TO THIS PROPERTY.
BUT ANY CUP APPROVAL FOR THIS PROPERTY IS SUPERSEDED BY THIS APPLICATION.
UM, THEY WOULD ADHERE TO THE EXCEPTIONAL PLAN THAT I SHOWED EARLIER.
THEY WOULD INSTALL NO TRESPASSING SIGNS, UM, AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY.
SEVERAL CONDITIONS HAVE TO DO WITH ENSURING THAT THEY, UM, ADHERE TO STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS INCLUDING FIVE AND SIX, UM, SEVEN A.
THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY TRASH OR DEBRIS TO ACCUMULATE ON THE PROPERTY JUMPING DOWN TO SEVEN C.
THAT WOULD LIMIT THEIR ACCESS, UH, TO THE EXISTING LUCK THE STONE PLANT, UM, TO PROVIDE THEIR ACCESS TO ASHTON ROAD.
UM, LOOKING AT SEVEN E THAT RE REINFORCES, UM, THE BERM AND THE GRAPHICS I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT HAVING THAT 350 FOOT BUFFER, UM, AT LEAST 50 FEET OF WHICH WOULD BE, UH, MAINTAINED UN TURP STATE, WHICH SUPPORTS MERICO COUNTY.
AND THEN THE OTHER 300 FOOT BERM, WHICH WOULD BE ULTIMATELY INCORPORATED INTO THE OVER, UH, THE OVER BURN STOCKPILES.
UM, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A GROUNDWATER PROTECTION PLAN.
UH, NUMBER NINE DOES LIMIT THE HEIGHT OF OVERMAN STORAGE AREAS TO 150 FEET.
NUMBER 10 DOES REQUIRE THEM TO, UM, MANAGE ANY FUGITIVE DUST THAT WOULD, COULD BE GENERATED FROM THE SITE.
UH, NUMBER 11 REQUIRES THEM TO INSTALL A LIGHTING PLAN FOR OR TO GET A LIGHTING PLAN APPROVED, EXCUSE ME, BEFORE INSTALLING ANY PERMANENT OR TEMPORARY LIGHTING.
NUMBER 12 IS A SETBACK FOR THAT STONE PROCESSING IS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WOULD, UH, STAY AT LEAST 650 FEET AWAY FROM THEIR EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
AND NUMBER 13 DOES REQUIRE THEM TO DELINEATE THEIR, UH, THEIR PROPERTY BOUNDARY, UM, UM, BETWEEN HENRICO COUNTY AND THEIR PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEARLY DELINEATED.
UH, NUMBER 14, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO ANY PRIMARY STONE CRUSHING ON THE SITE, BUT THEY WOULD BE PERMITTED, UH, TO DO SOME ANCILLARY OR SECONDARY STEM CRUSHING.
UH, NUMBER 15 WOULD PROHIBIT ANY TOXIC CHEMICALS OR HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCES.
THEY'D BE PROHIBITED FROM BLASTING AND THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION WOULD BE LIMITED FROM SEVEN TO SEVEN MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS OUR STANDARD CONDITION CONCERNING THE TRANSFER LEASE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND THE,
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UM, BODY OF THE UNREAD, THE RED THINGS WE, WE DID EARLIER.THERE WAS A, UH, SOMETHING ABOUT A MISINFORMATION.
UM, YEAH, I, I UH, I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATION.
ONE OF THE ATTENDEES FELT THAT THE APPLICANT HAD HAD PROVI HAD BEEN DISINGENUOUS AND PROVIDED SOME MISINFORMATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE GOT TO THAT RIGHT AWAY AT THE MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT STOPPED.
BUT THERE CERTAINLY THAT WAS A, A FEW MINUTES WERE, WERE SPOKEN.
LUCK MAY REMEMBER WHAT MORE DETAILS ABOUT THAT, BUT OKAY.
I THINK IT WAS ON THE FIRST OR SECOND SLIDE, AND I APOLOGIZE 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'RE ON 66.
WAS THERE A, IS THERE A PROPERTY ON CANE ROAD OR IS THAT ABANDONED OR WHAT IS THAT'S IN? UM, IT, IT SHOWS UP AS CA CANIN ROAD DOES EXTEND INTO UCHIN COUNTY, BUT IT'S, I'VE REALLY, I THINK IT SERVES TWO LOTS.
UM, BUT MOST OF CANE ROAD IS IN, UM, OKAY.
THIS IS SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME FOR START AND COMPLETION OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT HEIGHTS OF THE BERMS AND BUFFERS? I WOULD DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON THEIR SCHEDULE.
THERE'S A LARGE PORTION, UM, OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY ZONED M TWO.
YEAH, I MEAN, UH, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, IT'S MORE OR LESS HALF M TWO MORE OR LESS HALF AGRICULTURAL, UH, A CUP WOULD ALLOW THESE ACTIVITIES IN EITHER ZONING DISTRICT.
SO THAT'S THE REASON THEY ONLY NEED ONE APPLICATION COMING FORWARD.
HOW DOES 150 FOOT BERM COMPARE TO OTHER BERMS IN THE COUNTY OTHER, UH, UH, MANMADE, UH, MOUNDS IN THE COUNTY? UM, WELL THE, THE, THE NUMBER I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR AND I'M LACKING IS THE HEIGHT OF THE, THE MAX HEIGHT OF THE 6 23 LANDFILL.
I'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR THAT NUMBER AND I CAN'T FIND IT.
UM, I THINK MARTIN MARTIN MET MARTIN MARIETTA WAS LIMITED TO 80 FEET, SO THAT WAS A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY, UM, I KNOW 6 23 HAS A CAP.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT CAP IS.
AND BUILDING HEIGHTS IN THE COUNTY RESTRICTIONS ON THE BUILDING HEIGHTS IN THE COUNTY.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO BUILDING HEIGHT RESTRICTION HERE.
IT WOULD BE, I MEAN THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY PRINCIPAL STRUCTURES HERE.
BUT THEY WOULD BE OTHERWISE REGULATED BY THE THE, UM, BUT HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO LIMITATIONS ON BUILDING HEIGHTS IN, IN THE COUNTY? SO LIKE HOW WOULD THIS COMPARE TO A HEIGHT LIMITED IN ANOTHER ZONING DISTRICT Y YES.
UM, SOME OF OUR ZONING DISTRICTS DON'T HAVE BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITS.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME THAT MIGHT HAVE LIKE A 35 FOOT LIMIT AND I DO THINK SOME ALLOW TO GO AS HIGH AS ABOUT 80.
UM, AND THEN THERE MIGHT BE A CEP PROVISION TO GO A LITTLE BIT TALLER THAN THAT, BUT, ALRIGHT.
ONE MORE QUICK QUE AND YOU MAY NOT KNOW THIS BECAUSE I'M SPEAKING ABOUT HENRICO.
ARE THEY MOSTLY ON, IS THAT WELL IN SEPTIC OR ARE THEY, ARE THEY COUNTING, UH, REFER TO SEE WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE? THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SIR? MR. COLEMAN? THANK YOU SIR.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS LINWOOD THOMAS.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF OUR MID-ATLANTIC GREENFIELD TEAM FOR LUX STONE.
UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED AND AS WE PULL UP THE PRESENTATION AND ALSO LET ME ADD 'CAUSE YOU'LL ASK US FOR OUR ADDRESS, UH, OUR CORPORATE OFFICE ADDRESS IS 5 1 5 STONE MILL DRIVE.
THAT'S MANNEQUIN SABOT, VIRGINIA 2 3 1 0 3.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED AND AS WE'VE PULLED UP THE PRESENTATION, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MINUTE TO THANK STAFF FOR THE TIME THAT THEY'VE PUT IN.
IT'S REALLY TAKEN US ABOUT A YEAR TO GET TO THIS POINT, UM, AS WE'VE WORKED THROUGH TRYING TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITIES.
AND I SAY THAT I USE THAT LANGUAGE PLURAL BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S TWO COMMUNITIES HERE THAT OUR PROJECT WILL AFFECT.
AND THE LUCK WAY IS ALWAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TRY TO TAKE OUR TIME TO PRESENT A GOOD PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITIES.
SO I WANTED TO START WITH THAT.
SO I THOUGHT I'D JUST TAKE A MINUTE AND SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR COMPANY.
UM, STAFF'S DONE A GOOD JOB OF UNPACKING WHAT IS PRETTY, PRETTY COMPLEX GROUP OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
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I'D JUST SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, LUCK.LUCK AS A COMPANY FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT WE'VE BEEN IN OPERATION FOR A HUNDRED YEARS.
THIS PAST YEAR WE CELEBRATED OUR A HUNDRED YEAR ANNIVERSARY AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT.
UM, THE CUP THAT WE'RE SEEKING TONIGHT AT ROCKVILLE, WE'VE BEEN IN OPERATION AS MR. COLEMAN MENTIONED, FOR 60 YEARS.
UM, YOU USUALLY WON'T FIND A LAND USE ATTORNEY WHO GETS UP HERE AND TRIES TO SELL OUR OUR PROJECTS.
YOU'LL FIND SOMEONE FROM LUCK.
'CAUSE WE'RE PROUD OF OUR TRACK RECORD AND WE'RE PROUD OF OUR HISTORY AND WHO BETTER TO SELL OUR PROJECTS AND THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE THAN SOMEONE FROM THE COMPANY.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE AT AN INTERESTING STAGE, UH, IN, IN OUR EXISTENCE.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE FOUNDED IN 1923, UH, BUT WE FOUND A PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHAT WE CALL BOSCA, BE BACK IN 1926 AND HAVE BEEN IN GLAND COUNTY FOR 98 YEARS.
I JUST GAVE YOU OUR CORPORATE ADDRESS.
WELL, THAT'S WHERE WE'VE BEEN FOR ALL THOSE YEARS.
UM, THERE'S SOME TRANSITION TAKING PLACE.
WE'VE GROWN TO BE APPROXIMATELY A, A COMPANY OF A THOUSAND EMPLOYEES AND OVER 200 OF THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE LOCATED, UH, WORK HERE IN GLAND COUNTY BETWEEN OUR CORPORATE OFFICE AND OUR TWO AGGREGATE OPERATIONS.
SO WE'RE PROUD OF THE TAX BRIEF THAT WE GENERATE.
WE CAN NO LONGER SAY WE'RE THE LARGEST TAXPAYER.
UH, CAPITAL ONE HAS SUCCEEDED US THERE, BUT AGAIN, UH, VERY PROUD TO, TO BE PART OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THERE'S A SUCCESSION PLAN ALSO IN PLACE, AND THERE'S NEW ENERGY THAT'S COMING TO THE COMPANY.
RICHARD LUCK, FOURTH GENERATION WILL TAKE OVER AS PRESIDENT IN THE FALL.
UM, MR. CHARLIE LUCK WILL SERVE AS CHAIRMAN AND CEO STILL AND A CAPACITY.
UH, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF ENERGY AROUND THE TRANSITION AND WE HOPE TO BE HERE IN GLAND COUNTY FOR WHAT, WHAT'S TO SAY, ANOTHER A HUNDRED YEARS.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T JUST LOOK AT THIS AS A BUSINESS IN GLAND COUNTY.
UM, IT'S BEEN WHERE THREE GENERATIONS OF LUCK HAVE CALLED HOME.
SO IT'S HOME FOR OUR BUSINESS.
IT'S BEEN HOME FOR THEIR FAMILY.
AND WHAT WE HOPE YOU'VE SEEN OVER DECADES LONG BEFORE PROBABLY WE WERE HERE, IS THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE AND THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE'VE CREATED, UH, WITH OUR COMMUNITY, UM, WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS, UM, WITH OUR LOCAL NONPROFITS AND OTHER BUSINESSES WHERE WE FIND TRIED TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO NEEDS LIKE GREENSVILLE GROWERS AND SHELTERING ARMS. UH, SO WE ALWAYS SAY THAT ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.
AND WE'VE, WE HOPE YOU HAVE SEEN THAT IN OUR ACTIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL TRACK RECORD IS EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT AS ANYTHING WE DO AT LUX STONE, AND THERE'S A REASON FOR THAT.
WE HAVE TO BAT ALMOST A THOUSAND TO GET ANYTHING ACCOMPLISHED, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
UM, IT'S HARD TO GET EVEN SEXY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS APPROVED THESE DAYS.
UM, AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR TRACK RECORD IS, IS IMPECCABLE.
AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THE TRACK RECORD THAT WE HAVE AT ROCKVILLE.
I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE INVOLVED IN ADOPTIVE STREAMS AND WE DO RIVER CLEANUPS AND WE'RE INVOLVED WITH LOCAL ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS.
BUT THE CITIZENS OF HENRICO AND GLAND, THEY WANT TO KNOW, ARE, ARE MY CHILDREN GONNA BE SAFE? IS MY COMMUNITY SAFE NEXT TO A QUARRY OPERATION? I CAN TELL YOU, AND AND BEFORE YOU, YOU HAVE SEVERAL DOCUMENTS WE PROVIDED BEFORE THE, THE, THE MEETING THIS EVENING BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT MOST RECENTLY ON JULY 8TH, WE JUST RECEIVED AN AWARD FOR THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY FOR OUR RECLAMATION PROJECT AT ROCKVILLE.
WE TOOK SOME AREA THAT WAS GONNA BE DEVELOPED, UH, FOR, FOR OUR MINING OPERATIONS AND, AND FOUND SOME AREA FOR GREEN SPACE BE BOXES AND ORCHARDS AND AN OVERLOOK.
UM, SO WE RECEIVED A QUARRY OF THE YEAR IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA FOR THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, WHICH WE'RE PROUD OF.
I ALSO CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'VE HAD NO VIOLATIONS OF AIR OR WATER IN 60 YEARS, NOT ONE VIOLATION.
UM, AND THE DEPARTMENT OF, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE OUR WORD FOR IT, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, WHICH IS THE MONITORING AGENCY FOR AIR AND WATER SAID.
SO THEY ALSO SHARE THE FACT THAT WE ARE AN ENVIRONMENTAL SITE OF EXCELLENCE, THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL EQUALITY.
SO WE DON'T JUST MEET THE NECESSARY STANDARDS, WE EXCEED THOSE AT AN EXEMPLARY LEVEL.
SO THERE ARE FOUR TIERS OF RANKING THROUGH THAT EXCELLENCE PROGRAM.
AND WE ARE AT THE EXEMPLARY LEVEL, WHICH IS NUMBER THREE OUT OF FOUR, FOUR BEING THE BEST.
SO WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT TO US AND WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY AND WE WON'T BE ABLE TO GET ANYTHING DONE IN ANY OF OUR OTHER FOOTPRINT THROUGHOUT OUR, OUR OTHER STATES AND JURISDICTIONS IF WE DON'T.
AS I MENTIONED, MR. COLEMAN DID A NICE JOB OF TRYING TO EXPLAIN A THREE DIFFERENT CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN ON THIS PROPERTY IN EXISTENCE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
I DO WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE PUBLIC WHAT THIS IS AND WHAT THIS ISN'T.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE THINGS FOR LUX STONE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE, UM, HERE FOR THE NEXT 70, 80, 90, A HUNDRED YEARS.
WE NEED TO SECURE THIS, THIS PERMIT.
AND AS I MENTIONED, WE'VE SPENT CONSIDERABLE TIME TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE GET THIS RIGHT.
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WE KNOW NOBODY WANTS ANYTHING IN THEIR BACKYARDS.WE RECOGNIZE THAT, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE BEST PROJECT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WE CAN STILL OPERATE.
SO FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT FOR THE NEXT 60, 70 YEARS, WE NEED TO GET THIS PROJECT APPROVED.
TRYING TO, AND I I WILL ANSWER SEVERAL OF YOUR QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED IN JUST A MOMENT, BUT TRYING TO MOVE A PLANT AND OUR PROCESSING OPERATIONS IS LIKE TRYING TO MOVE THE TITANIC AND A CORE OPERATION.
SO WE HAVE TO CONSISTENTLY TRY TO GET THESE APPROVED AHEAD OF TIME AS WE TRY TO DEVELOP THE SITES.
THE NORTHERN PROPERTY WAS APPROVED AS MR. COLEMAN MENTIONED BACK IN 2012.
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP CONSISTENT DESIGN STANDARDS ON THAT SOUTHERN PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IT MAKES FOR A BETTER PROJECT, UH, FOR BOTH THE CITIZENS OF GLAND.
BUT MORE SPECIFICALLY, IF WE'RE BEING HONEST, THE CITIZENS OF HENRICO.
UM, WE HATE TO SIMPLIFY ANYTHING 'CAUSE NONE OF THIS IS SIMPLE, BUT WE'RE REALLY JUST LOOKING TO STORE, SCRAPE THE SOILS OFF THE TOP OF THE, OF OUR ROCK ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY TO THE WEST.
YOU KIND OF CAN'T SEE THE CORD FROM THERE AND UP IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER AND TAKE THOSE SOILS AND STORE THEM IN THAT AREA OF OVERBURDENED PLACEMENT.
AND ALSO TO BUILD OUR VEGETATED BURN BUFFERS.
AND THEN WE NEED TO CONNECT THE DOTS, AS TOM MENTIONED WITH THE NORTHERN PIECE IN THAT PROCESSING AREA THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED.
THAT SITE, UM, WAS APPROVED BEFORE MANY OF THOSE NEIGHBORS WERE THERE IN WESTERN ESTATES.
UM, AND, UM, WE UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS AND WE WANT TO TRY TO MAKE THIS A BETTER PROJECT.
BUT IT WAS APPROVED AGAIN BEFORE MANY OF THOSE HOMES WERE THERE.
UM, I THINK ONE THING THAT WASN'T MENTIONED, AND THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH COMMUNITY LEADERS, BOARD MEMBERS, PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, WORKING WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS, IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE IMPROVEMENTS COMING TO ASHLAND ROAD AS, AS WE ALL KNOW, EVEN WITH THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT POSES A CHALLENGING TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR.
AND PART OF THE REASON WE WANTED TO TRY TO CREATE A PROJECT THAT KEPT TRUCK TRAFFIC OFF THAT ROAD SO WE COULD STORE THOSE SOILS AND THOSE DIRTS ON BOTH THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN PROPERTIES TO BE ABLE TO TAKE WHAT COULD BE AT, YOU KNOW, AT FULL CONSTRUCTION AS, AS WE'RE OPERATING 20, 30, 40 ADDITIONAL TRUCKS A DAY OFF OF ASHLAND ROAD.
SO WE ALSO THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD SOLVE FOR THAT PROBLEM TOO, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AND SO, UH, WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT YOU TO KEEP IN INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU LOOK AT THE PROJECT.
WE ALSO FEEL IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE THE NECESSARY SCREENING AND VEGETATIVE SETBACKS FOR THE PROJECT.
UH, WE WANT TO INSULATE OURSELVES FROM, UH, OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, WE WANT TO BE GOOD STEWARDS AND PARTNERS.
WE BELIEVE THAT AS WE BUILD THESE BURN BUFFERS, WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT TO MITIGATE NOISE AND SOUND AND ANY POTENTIAL DUST THAT THAT MAY ARISE.
SO AS PART OF THIS, THE REASON WE WANT TO DO THAT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE INSULATING THOSE CITIZENS MAINLY IN HENRICO.
I WANNA MAKE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD THAT WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO DO ANY MINING OR EXTRACTION ACTIVITIES.
THE NORTHERN PIECE IS APPROVED.
IT ALREADY SAYS THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO THAT ON THE SOUTHERN PIECE WHATSOEVER, WHICH MEANS WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO BLAST ANY ADDITIONAL OTHER THAN WHAT'S WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING AT OUR MINING OPERATIONS IF YOU'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO ANY BLASTING, ANY MINING OR EXTRACTION.
AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION OF OUR CURRENT HOURS OF OPERATION.
UM, SO WE DID WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTOOD THAT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DO.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M HAPPY TO A ANSWER THE, I THINK THE FEW QUESTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION HAD, UM, INITIALLY, OR I CAN DEFER TO AFTER YOU OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
YES, I HAD A QUESTION EARLIER.
UM, WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME IN TERMS OF STARTING THE BURNS AND BUFFERS AND WHEN DO YOU SEE IT ACTUALLY ENDING? 'CAUSE SINCE YOU'RE DOING SEVERAL PHASES OF IT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
AND, UM, FIRST OF ALL, IT DEPENDS ON PRODUCTION LEVELS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, TH THIS IS A DECADES LONG PROCESS.
I MEAN, THIS IS GOING TO TAKE TIME AS WE BUILD THESE BERMS. WE'RE GONNA START ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY, BUT IT WILL TAKE TIME FOR US TO BUILD THESE BERMS. UH, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE IN PLACE.
AND ALSO VEGETATED, AS I WOULD MENTION EARLIER, UH, GET 'EM VEGETATED.
I CAN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT TIMEFRAME, BUT WE OPERATE IN DECADES AND IT COULD TAKE THAT LONG TO AT FULL BUILD OUT, UH, TO GET TO THAT, UH, THIRD, UH, LIFT IS WHAT WE WOULD CALL IT AT APPROXIMATELY 150 FEET.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. CO? YES.
UM, I THOUGHT I WOULD ALSO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE HEIGHT.
I THINK SOMEBODY ANSWERED, ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT THE HEIGHT.
UM, CURRENTLY WE SIT BESIDE REPUBLIC'S LANDFILL AND WE DID A GIS CALCULATION.
PLEASE DO YOUR OWN
THEY CAN GO UP ANOTHER APPROXIMATELY 60 FEET BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN FROM PUBLIC DOCUMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
UM, WE WOULD BE REQUESTING 150 FEET.
THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE APPROXIMATELY THREE LIFTS.
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UM, DUE TO THE TOPO, WE ARE ASKING FOR 150 FEET DUE TO THE TOPOGRAPHY THERE.WE WANNA MAKE IT CONSISTENT, THE BERMS CONSISTENT.
UM, SO JUST RIGHT UP THE STREET OR TO THE NORTH REPUBLIC'S, UH, LANDFILL IS CURRENTLY AT 420 FEET, AND THAT'S GONNA BE MEASURED FROM THE, UH, THE HENRICO SIDE OF THE, OF THE BERM.
UH, 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE BUILDING IT UP ON THE, ON THE EASTERN SIDE OR ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THAT.
WE COULD BE MEASURED RIGHT THERE ON THE, THE PROPERTY MEASURED FROM THE UNDISTURBED, BUT KEEP IN MIND, THE TOPOGRAPHY, UM, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN OUT THERE, THERE'S SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WATER THAT'S BEING PUSHED BACK.
IT'S JUST A TOPOGRAPHY, IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH HENRICO, IT'S JUST A TOPOGRAPHY ISSUE.
THE WATER'S BEING PUSHED BACK TOWARD OUR PROPERTY, AND IF IT'S PRETTY DENSE OUT THERE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO WALK IT, FEEL FREE.
UM, BUT IT, IT'S, IT'S BEING PUSHED TOWARD OUR PROPERTY, BUT BASED ON TOPOGRAPHY, IT SLOPES DOWN ABOUT, FROM THE PROPERTY LINE BACK TO THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S ABOUT A 20 FOOT DIFFERENCE IN TOPOGRAPHY, UM, SLOPING DOWNWARD TOWARD THE WEST ALSO.
AND I KNOW MRS. WHITEHEAD IS HERE FROM HENRICO.
SHE MAY BE BETTER VERSED AT ANSWERING THIS QUESTION, BUT I DO BELIEVE A MAJORITY OF THOSE HOMES RIGHT NOW ARE ON WELL IN SEPTIC, IN HENRICO.
UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE IN HENRICO TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE ON MUNICIPAL, UM, WELL, SEWER, WATER SEWER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UM, SHE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I BELIEVE THERE'S BEEN AN APPROVED PLAN IN PLACE TO DO THAT IN THE COMING YEAR.
I THINK THEY WERE THE THREE MAJOR QUESTIONS THAT I GOT.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYMORE IF YOU HAVE THEM.
CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE? I SEE, YOU KNOW, STREAM CROSSING, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHAT YOU GUYS DO TO PROTECT THAT AND JUST THE STEPS THAT YOU TAKE? 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT INVOLVED IN THAT.
YEAH, SO IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY STRINGENT PROCESS BEING IN THE CHE BAY ACT, AND SO WE HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL THE NECESSARY REQUIREMENTS BY DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND ARMY CORPS.
UM, THEY'RE PRETTY STRINGENT, ESPECIALLY FOR MINING OPERATION, BUT FOR, FOR THAT MATTER, FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT, UM, WE WILL PROVIDE, AS WE'VE NOTED IN, AS NOTED IN THE APPLICATION, UM, A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACKS FROM THE LITTLE TUCKAHOE CREEK THERE.
AND WE ALSO HAVE TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF OUR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT AND EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROL, UM, STRUCTURES ARE IN PLACE.
WE'RE MONITORED QUARTERLY, UM, IN SOME OF OUR, OUR SYSTEMS AND WE'RE MONITORED YEARLY IN OTHERS.
BUT AS I MENTIONED, OUR TRACK RECORD WILL CONTINUE TO BE MONITORED, SO WE HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN ENSURING THAT ONE WETLANDS IF WE, IF WE HAD TO MITIGATE THEM, WE'D HAVE TO BUY WETLANDS CREDITS, UM, IN, IN MOST CASES.
UM, BUT WE'LL TRY AS BEST AS POSSIBLE TO, TO MINIMIZE THOSE IMPACTS.
BUT, UH, THE ARMY CORPS WILL, WILL TELL US WHAT WE CAN AND, AND CAN'T DO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND THIS OVERBURDEN THAT YOU'RE GONNA PLACE HERE, YOU SAY IT'S JUST SCRAPING, SO IT'S MAINLY TOP SOIL, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, FILM DUST OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, THE, FOR THE MAJORITY OF IT IS MAINLY TOP SOIL IS SOILS.
I'M NOT TELLING YOU THAT WE WOULDN'T GET A SMALL STONE OF SEDIMENT IN THERE, BUT UNDERSTAND THE MAJORITY OF IT'S MAINLY YES.
I'LL NOW OPEN, UH, TO PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.
GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF COMMISSION.
I AM, UH, REPRESENT THE THREE CHOP DISTRICT FOR THE HENRICO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
PLEASURE TO BE HERE BEFORE YOU ALL FOR THE FIRST TIME ACTUALLY TAKING PART IN GLAND COUNTY, UM, COMPLETELY FOR THE FIRST TIME.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING ONE THAT I AM GRATEFUL FOR, UM, THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THIS COMMISSION AS WELL AS THE DISTRICTS THAT YOU REPRESENT AND THE SUPERVISORS REPRESENTING THE DISTRICTS THAT YOU REPRESENT.
UM, UNDERSTAND AND AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN HENRICO ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF NEIGHBORLY COOPERATION.
UM, WE ARE A STONES THROW AWAY FROM EACH OTHER AT ANY GIVEN POINT, PARTICULARLY, PARTICULARLY IN MY DISTRICT.
AND, UM, EARLY ON AFTER I GOT ELECTED, WE MET WITH A COUPLE OF, UM, GLAND COUNTY BOARD MEMBERS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE FACILITATING THAT NEIGHBORLY RELATIONSHIP.
I AM EQUALLY GRATEFUL FOR LUX STONE, UM, BEING A HOMEGROWN COMPANY HERE THAT HAS BEEN VERY VALUABLE TO THE GLAND COMMUNITY, MET WITH, UH, MEMBERS OF THE LEX STONE CORPORATION, AND I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THEY WANT TO GET THIS RIGHT.
AND, UM, I'M STANDING BEFORE YOU GUYS BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE ARE NOT THERE YET.
UM, AS A CAUTION, AS A CAVEAT, I'M A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY, SO, UH, PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT I IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART IN EVERYTHING.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT THE PROCESS IN THIS CASE IS NOT QUITE WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE FOR FOLKS TO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS, UM, REPRESENTING GOOD PUBLIC POLICY.
UM, SO WE HAVE THE PROCESS AND
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WE HAVE THE SUBSTANCE OF IT.I'LL, I'LL START BY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO ASK, OR WE ARE ASKING, UM, HENRICO WAS ASKING THAT YOU ALL DEFER VOTE ON THIS CASE FOR AT LEAST 30 DAYS, UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE STAFF REPORT WAS MADE AVAILABLE, MADE PUBLIC, UH, LESS THAN OR ABOUT TWO DAYS AGO, UM, 48 PAGES LONG AS I SKIMMED THROUGH IT.
I PERSONALLY HAVE NOT HAD A CHANCE TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH IT.
UM, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF WORK WAS PUT INTO IT, AND 48 PAGES LONG IS, IS GOOD INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE TIME TO GO THROUGH.
AND I KNOW IN SPEAKING TO MEMBERS OF OUR STAFF AS WELL AS SPEAKING TO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, SOME OF WHOM ARE HERE, WE JUST HAVE NOT HAD THE TIME TO GO THROUGH THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHY, UM, THAT SHORT TIMEFRAME EXISTED, BUT IT, IT IS NOT BEST PRACTICES TO VOTE ON SOMETHING THIS IMPORTANT, THE SUBSTANCE OF ULTIMATELY WHAT COMES BEFORE YOU.
UM, I DO HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH, AND I DO THINK THAT SOME CLARITY IS NEEDED FOR THAT IN RESPONSE.
UH, SIR, TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE 150 UH FEET, THAT'S ABOUT A 12 TO 15 STORY BUILDING THAT IS NOT SMALL POTATOES.
UM, THE MEASUREMENT, THE FIGURES GIVEN, UM, BY LINWOOD ABOUT THE, THE LANDFILL, THAT DOES DIFFER SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THE MEASURES THAT OUR STAFF HAS TAKEN.
AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT THEY'RE WRONG, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO BE RIGHT, BUT I AM SAYING THAT THAT POINTS OUT THE IMPORTANCE OF TAKING OUR TIME AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S CLARITY AND UNDERSTANDING.
IF IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEING REPRESENTED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE COUNTY, THEN UM, IT IS ONLY PROPER THAT WE GET IT.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? HI, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I AM A RESIDENT OF HENRICO COUNTY.
UM, ALTHOUGH I FREQUENT GLAND COUNTY BUSINESSES ALL THE TIME AS WELL AS MY NEIGHBORS.
UM, AND, AND WE APPRECIATE, UM, THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE.
UM, I THINK MRS. WHITEHEAD SAID IT BEST, WHICH IS JUST THAT, UM, AND I SHOULD MENTION, I'M, UH, AT, I LIVE IN THE WESTERN ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD, SO, UM, WE RECEIVED, UH, SOME CORRESPONDENCE.
SOME OF US RECEIVED CORRESPONDENCE ABOUT THE MAY MEETING AT LUX STONE.
UM, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE WERE HEARING ABOUT ANY OF THIS.
UM, WE TRIED TO WRAP OUR BRAINS AROUND IT.
UM, OUR HOA IS, YOU KNOW, WORKING, UM, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING ON.
UM, AND I WOULD WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE WITH MS. WHITEHEAD THAT WE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE MORE TIME TO JUST UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY AND MAYBE SOME TIME TO ENGAGE WITH LUX STONE AND, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS IT.
AND, UM, THIS HAS, UH, A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
UM, OUR PROPERTY LINES ABUT THE, UH, COUNTY LINE.
SO THIS IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE BUFFERS ARE IN OUR BACKYARDS.
I WORK FROM HOME AND THE HOUSE SHAKES, UM, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS, THE NOISE.
UM, AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW WHAT THIS NEXT PHASE, HOW THIS WILL IMPACT US TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DECIDE HOW WE WANNA MOVE FORWARD.
SO, UM, AGAIN, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
WE'RE NOT OPPOSING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW.
WE WOULD JUST LIKE ADDITIONAL TIME TO, TO REVIEW WHAT'S BEEN, UH, PROPOSED.
COULD YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? ABSOLUTELY.
I AM ALSO A RESIDENT OF WESTIN ESTATES, UH, 20 YEAR, SORRY, YOUR ADDRESS.
OH, MY ADDRESS IS 1 2 8 0 4 OX LANE, GLEN ALLEN, VIRGINIA 2 3 0 5 9.
UM, I HAVE RESIDED IN HENRICO COUNTY FOR 20 YEARS AND IN WESTERN ESTATE SPECIFICALLY FOR EIGHT YEARS.
UM, AND LIKE AMY SAID, UM, A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION HAS COME UPON US PRETTY SUDDENLY AND WE ARE ASKING FOR MORE TIME TO CONSIDER THE IMPLICATIONS TO, I BELIEVE IT'S 94 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES THAT RESIDE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW.
UM, TO BE PERFECTLY TRANSPARENT, I PERSONALLY DO NOT FEEL THAT L STONE HAS BEEN VERY FORTHCOMING IN THEIR PLANS FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL LAST MINUTE CHANGES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN SHARED WITH US, WHICH IS A CONCERN FOR ME, UM, JUST FROM A CREDIBILITY PERSPECTIVE, BUT MORE FROM A SAFETY PERSPECTIVE.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT CONCERNS THAT, UM, I THINK ARE IMPORTANT TO BE ADDRESSED.
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ONE IS, OF COURSE, THE AIR QUALITY.SO LUX STONE HAS CONTINUOUSLY SAID THAT THEY MEET THESE EXEMPLARY STANDARDS OF AIR QUALITY, BUT THEY HAVE YET TO PROVIDE US WITH ANY OF THE SPECIFIC STUDIES THAT WE'VE REQUESTED THAT SHOW THE LOCATION OF THE SPECIFIC MONITORS CLOSE TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ACTUALLY SHOW THAT THEY'RE MEETING OR EXCEEDING AIR QUALITY STANDARDS SPECIFIC TO OUR ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THE SECOND CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS RELATED TO WILDLIFE DISPLACEMENT.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN NO STUDIES ON HOW THEIR PLANS ARE GOING TO AFFECT THE WILDLIFE IN OUR AREA.
AND AS OF THIS MONTH, I BELIEVE THERE HAVE BEEN AT LEAST THREE INCIDENTS OF, UM, BLACK BEARS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE OF ALL THE OVERDEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THE AREAS AROUND US.
AND NONE OF THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED.
SO I THINK THAT DEFINITELY, UM, NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.
AND THEN, AS AMY MENTIONED, I THINK IT'S FUNNY THAT LUXEM SAYS THERE'S NO DISRUPTIONS OUR DAY-TO-DAY QUALITY OF LIFE FROM THEIR QUARRY OPERATIONS, BECAUSE THAT COULD NOT BE FARTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
WE HEAR THE BLASTING ALL THE TIME.
WE HEAR IT NIGHT AND DAY LAST NIGHT, I FELT THE HOUSE SHAKE.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ONCE IN A WHILE.
AND THEY HAVE NEVER ONCE REACHED OUT TO US TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH IS DISRUPTING OUR LIVES.
THEY'VE NEVER ASKED ANY QUESTIONS OF HOW BAD IT IS.
THEY JUST SAID THAT THERE'S NO DISRUPTION TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, AND THAT IS FLAT OUT FALSE.
AND I DON'T SEE HOW THEY GET AWAY WITH SAYING THAT.
SO I THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF PUSHBACK ON THEIR STATEMENTS, BECAUSE UNLESS THEY LIVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY CAN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT DISRUPTING OUR LIVES RIGHT NOW WITH THEIR QUARRY OPERATIONS AND THAT THEY WON'T BE DISRUPTING IT FURTHER WITH WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING.
I 2:00 AM A RESIDENT OF WESTIN ESTATES AT 1 2 8 1 2 ACTS.
HANDLE COURT IN GLEN ALLEN, 2 3 0 5 9, I WANNA SAY.
AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, FEEL THAT LONE HAS THE BEST OF INTENTIONS.
THEIR INTENTIONS, THEY'RE RUNNING A BUSINESS, THEY'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.
MY JOB IS TO PROTECT MY FAMILY, GROW MY FAMILY, MAKE SURE THAT MY COMMUNITY IS SAFE.
WHAT THEY DID SHOW YOU ON THOSE GRAPHS, THE LIGHT GREEN AREA IS DIRECTLY AT THE END OF MY CUL-DE-SAC.
MY FAMILY IS RIGHT THERE, LIVING RIGHT BESIDE THEM.
THEY SHOWED YOU THE PICTURE OF WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING TO HAVE THE WAIVER FOR OR TO GET APPROVAL FOR THE CUP.
UM, BUT THE PICTURE DIDN'T SHOW THE WHOLE PICTURE OF WHAT THEIR NORTH AND SOUTH PLANS ARE TAKING OUT ALL OF THOSE NATURAL AREA.
UM, THEY'RE ADDING A BARRIER, BUT THAT'S NOT KEEPING ANY OF THE BUFFER THERE.
UH, BETWEEN THE CONSTRUCTION PROPERTY AND OUR PROPERTY, NOT ONLY DOES LUX STONE AND THE LANDFILL HAVE THEIR PROPERTIES THERE, WHAT WRAPS AROUND OUR COMMUNITY IS THE LEHIGH PAVING.
UM, AND I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME NOW, IT'S ESCAPING ME.
UH, WHAT THE OTHER QUARRY IS, SOMEBODY MAY KNOW, BUT ALL OF THAT IS AROUND US.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WE FEEL THE BLAST, WE HEAR THE TRUCK SOUNDS, WE SMELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE ASPHALT IS BURNING, WE CAN HEAR ALL THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S GOING ON.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S COMING FROM.
SO FOR ONE OF THE COMPANIES TO SAY ANY CHANGES THAT THEY MAKE WILL NOT IMPACT US, CANNOT BE VALID.
IT ABSOLUTELY WILL MAKE IT IN SOME WAY A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO US.
AND I TOO AM REQUESTING FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND ADDITIONAL TIME TO PROCESS AND TO SEE WHAT RIGHTS WE DO HAVE SO THAT IT'S NOT EVEN THAT MUCH CLOSER TO WHERE WE LIVE.
THEY WERE BABIES WHEN WE MOVED IN.
WE CLOSED ON OUR PROPERTY ON 2014.
WE HAD NO IDEA THAT ANY OF THIS STUFF WAS ALREADY IN PLACE AND THAT ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, COUNTRY LIVING IN SHORT PUMP WAS, WAS GOING TO BE TAKING DOWN, YOU KNOW, IN THE DISCLOSED FUTURE.
MY BOYS LOVE GOING TO THE LUX STONE EVENTS.
THEY LOVE LEARNING ABOUT THE ROCK QUARRY.
YOU KNOW, I, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THEY'RE A BAD COMPANY, UM, BUT THE FACT IS THEY ARE A ROCK QUARRY COMPANY AND THEY HAVE TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS, BUT WE TOO HAVE TO HAVE SOME RIGHTS THAT OUR COMMUNITY ISN'T GONNA BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HOPING WE'LL GET THE EXTENSION FOR AND TO FIND MORE INFORMATION ON.
I'LL CLOSE THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT.
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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS, THE COMMISSION.THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD LOVE TO, TO RESPOND TO IF, IF HAVE, IF YOU'D LIKE ME TO ANSWER ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS, PLEASE.
UM, A MAJORITY OF THE SPEAKERS, I BELIEVE, BASED ON THEIR ADDRESS ARE IN WESTERN ESTATES.
UM, AS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS JUST MENTIONED, UH, THEY PURCHASED THEIR HOME IN 2014.
UM, AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE REZONING ON THE NORTHERN PIECE HAD ALREADY TAKEN PLACE, BUT FOR A MAJORITY, IF NOT ALL OF THOSE HOUSES, AND THEN ALONG OUR PROPERTY LINE WERE EVEN BUILT.
SO WE HAD SECURED THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BACK IN 2012.
WE'RE CURRENTLY TRYING TO SEEK A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ON THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY.
WE DO RECOGNIZE THERE CONCERNS AROUND BLASTING IN OTHER THINGS.
I THINK IT'S A VALID CONCERN, BUT WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING IN THAT SAME AREA FOR 60 YEARS BLASTING, UM, UP IN OUR, THE AREA THAT'S APPROVED FOR OUR MINING AND QUARRY OPERATIONS.
SO I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT INCLUDING A LANDFILL, UH, INCLUDING A PAVING COMPANY, AS THEY MENTIONED, HAVE ALL BEEN IN THIS AREA AS MR. COLEMAN, UH, SHARED FOR, FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, SO THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN SPRUNG OR, OR NEW, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE NORTHERN PIECE THAT THEY'RE REFERENCING.
UM, THIS IS ONLY THE SOUTHERN PIECE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET PERMITTED AS.
UM, THE QUESTION PERTAINED TO AIR.
WE ARE CURRENTLY IN AN ATTAINMENT ZONE.
I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH AN ATTAINMENT ZONE.
THERE'S AN ATTAINMENT AND NON-ATTAINMENT.
NON-ATTAINMENT MEANS THAT WE ARE IN AN AREA THAT DOESN'T MEET EPA STANDARDS FOR AIR QUALITY, BUT GLAND COUNTY, EVEN IN AND ALONG THE AREA WITH, WITH A LANDFILL AND, AND WITH LEHIGH PAVING AND WITH LUX STONE, WE FALL INTO AN ATTAINMENT AREA.
UM, THERE ARE MONITORS, DEQ HAS THOSE PUT ON A WEBSITE, YOU CAN LOCATE WHERE THOSE AIR MONITORS ARE.
WE DO OUR AIR, OWN AIR MONITORING AND TESTING BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY WANT TO ENSURE THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BEING TRANSPARENT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
BUT MOST OF THE TIME PEOPLE DON'T WANNA SEE OUR RESULTS AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WANNA SEE DEQS RESULTS.
UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, AT ANY POINT IN TIME, WE'D HOPE IF THERE WAS EVER ANY ISSUES WITH DUST OR AIR, THE FIRST THING THAT THE CITIZENS WOULD DO IS WE BEGIN, IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE BEGIN THIS PROCESS, IS THEY WOULD REACH OUT TO US BECAUSE WE WOULD IMMEDIATELY, IN THE LUCK WAY, UM, NOT JUST IN GLAND, BUT ALL OVER OUR FOOTPRINT, WE WOULD TRY TO FIGURE OUT A SOLUTION TO MAKE IT RIGHT.
IF THAT DIDN'T WORK, THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY OR THEY CAN GO DIRECTLY TO DEQ TO FILE A COMPLAINT.
AGAIN, WE HOPE WE COULD LEAN ON OUR TRACK RECORD FOR SOME GOOD GRACE IN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ATTAINED A HIGH STANDARD THAT IS NOT LIP SERVICE.
YOU CAN FIND THAT ON ANY PUBLIC WEBSITE.
UM, REGARDING OUR, OUR ATTAINMENT OF THOSE STANDARDS, UM, I THINK THEY WERE ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT POTENTIALLY WERE POSED.
UM, IF THERE ARE ANY MORE THAT THE COMMISSION HAS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
THE AREA THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING THIS, UH, OVERBURDEN ON, IS IT CURRENTLY TREE OR IS IT SO YOU'LL BE CLEARING TREES? CORRECT.
ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU AGAIN.
THIS IS MY DISTRICT AND I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2024 DASH 0 0 16 FOR USES ACCESSORY TO QUARRY OPERATIONS EAST OF ASHLAND ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OF VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024, WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
IF I COULD, STAFF COULD INDULGE UPON YOU TO REQUEST A 10 MINUTE RECESS, UM, BEFORE WE HOLD THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING, AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO, UH, AMEND YOUR AGENDA AND, AND REQUEST A RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES.
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OKAY.OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TONIGHT IS DISTRICT ONE CU 20 24 12 APPLICATION
[4. District 1 - CU-2024-00012 Application by Pleasant Grove Farm, LLC requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for short-term rental, unhosted, and public assembly place on 103.92 acres at 4615 Old Fredericksburg Road on Tax Map No. 6-1-0-62-0. The property is zoned Agricultural, General (A-1). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-102 in accordance with Secs. 15-285.G and 15-290. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]
BY PLEASANT GROVE FARM, LLC REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, CUP FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND HOSTED AND PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE ON 103.92 ACRES AT 46 15 OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD ON TAX NUMBER 6 1 0 62 0.THE PROPERTY IS OWNED AGRICULTURAL GENERAL A ONE.
THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15 102 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTIONS 15 2 80 5G AND 15 2 90.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
MEMBER COMMISSION, TOM CORN PENCIL PLANNER.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, INDICATED THEIR DESIRE FOR DEFERRAL, UM, THAT WOULD REQUIRE ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, TO DO THAT, YES.
HEY, I'M MARK MCCONNELL, 46 15 OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD.
I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE TO DO THAT.
UM, YEAH, WE'RE, WE'D LIKE TO, UM, THERE'S STILL A FEW ITEMS THAT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH.
I WANNA JUST COMPLIMENT TOM AND THE, THE, UH, FIRE MARSHAL, THEY, THEY CAME OUT TO OUR PLACE, DROVE THEIR FIRETRUCK ON THE ROAD.
THEY TALKED ABOUT TURNING RADIUSES AND ALL SORTS OF GOOD STUFF, BUT THERE'S STILL A FEW ITEMS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE OUR, THAT WHAT YOU GUYS VOTE ON, BE SORT OF CLEAN AND NOT SUBJECT TO A LOT OF DISCUSSION HERE.
AND WE'RE WILLING TO WAIT A MONTH TO GET THAT.
AND THE DATE FOR THE AUGUST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS THE 15TH.
UM, I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION DEFER CONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONAL USE CU 2 0 2 4 0 0 0 1 2 FOR UNHOSTED SHORT-TERM RENTAL AND PUBLIC ASSEMBLY PLACE AT 46 15 OLD FREDERICKSBURG ROAD TO THE AUGUST 15TH, 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
THE CASE, UM, IS DEFERRED UNTIL THE AUGUST 15TH, UH, 2024 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TONIGHT IS COUNTYWIDE ZOA 20 24 2
[5. Countywide - ZOA-2024-00002 Amendment to Zoning Ordinance (County Code Chapter 15) to repeal and replace Article 28 (Floodplain Districts and Dam Break Inundation Zones) with updated provisions and to adopt and incorporate the new Flood Insurance Rate Maps issued by the Federal Emergency Management Agency]
AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE, COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 15 TO REPEAL AND REPLACE ARTICLE 28 FLOODPLAIN DISTRICTS AND DAM BREAK INUNDATION ZONES WITH UPDATED PROVISIONS AND TO ADOPT AND INCORPORATE THE NEW FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAPS ISSUED BY THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY.MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION FOR THE RECORD.
I'M JAMIE SHERRY, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING IS A COUNTYWIDE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE, SPECIFICALLY ARTICLE 28, WHICH IS THE FLOODPLAIN DISTRICTS AND DAM INUNDATION ZONE.
UM, THE REASON WE'RE DOING THIS IS TO, UM, ADOPT THE NEW FEMA FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAPS AND ASSOCIATED ORDINANCE.
SO WHY DO WE NEED TO ADOPT THE NEW MAPS IN THE NEW ORDINANCE? THIS AMENDMENT WILL ALLOW GLAND COUNTY TO CONTINUE TO PARTICIPATE IN FEMA'S NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM.
WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE COUNTY WOULD BE THEN ELIGIBLE FOR FEDERALLY BLACKED FLOOD INSURANCE.
SO, UM, THAT MEANS PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
IT'S A LOT CHEAPER TO BE ABLE TO GET FLOOD INSURANCE THAN IF, IF WE WERE A COUNTY THAT DID NOT PARTICIPATE.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE MAPS, UM, HAVE THEY'VE BEEN REVISED, HELP THE COUNTY MAKE BETTER DECISIONS ON DEVELOPMENT.
SO, JUST A REALLY QUICK HISTORY.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN MEMBERS OF THE PROGRAM GLAND COUNTY SINCE 1979.
UM, THE WAY THE MAPS WERE DONE BACK IN THE, IN THE DAY, UH, IT WAS SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE JUST USING, UH, MODELING OF, UH, THE U-S-G-A-J-S MAPS.
UM, MOST OF THE COUNTY WAS, UM, BEING ABLE TO BE MAPPED.
SOME AREAS WERE JUST OUT OF THE MAP, UM, MAPPING AREA.
THERE WAS AN UPDATE TO THE MAPS IN 2008, THAT WAS THE LAST TIME THEY WERE DONE.
THE MAPS WERE BASICALLY JUST DIGITIZED FROM THE 1979 VERSION.
SO THE DAP MAPS THAT WE HAVE, UM, PREVIOUS, UH, CURRENTLY DO REQUIRE, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY WANT TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTY TO GO OUT AND HAVE, UM, UM, UM, ENGINEER DRAWINGS AND STUFF DONE TO ACTUALLY SUBMIT
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TO FEMA TO PROVE THAT THEY'RE AT AN ELEVATION WHERE THEY'RE NOT IMPACTED BY THE, THE FLOOD ZONE.SO, UH, THIS PROCESS COMING UP WITH THE NEW MAPS AND THE NEW ORDINANCE HAVE BEEN A MULTI-YEAR PROCESS.
IT STARTED BACK IN 2018, THE, UH, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FEMA, UM, WORKED AND HAD, UH, LOCAL MEETINGS WITH, UH, GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS, GOVERNMENT STAFF, HAD SOME PUBLIC MEETINGS.
UM, AND THEN AT THAT SAME TIME THEY WERE ALSO MODELING, UH, THE NEW MAPS.
SO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY TOOK, UM, UM, UH, SO, UH, THROUGH THEIR ENGINEERING, WHAT EXACTLY DID THEY DO? I'M DRAWING, DRAWING A BLANK.
UM, I KNOW IT INVOLVED LIDAR, I'M DRAWING A LITTLE BIT OF A BANK, BUT THEY DID, UH, SCIENTIFIC MAGIC TO, UH, TO COME UP WITH THESE
AND, UM, BUT WHAT I'M, WHAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT IS, IS THAT THESE NEW MAPS, ONCE THEY BECAME AVAILABLE IN DRAFT FORM, UM, THEY WERE SENT TO THE COUNTY AND WE WERE REQUIRED TO DO A 90 DAY, UM, COMMENT PERIOD, APPEAL PERIOD.
AND SO THESE MAPS NOW ARE MUCH MORE ACCURATE AND ACTUALLY HAD THE, HAD THE POTENTIAL TO REALLY IMPACT PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, EITHER MORE OR LESS AS TO WHERE, UM, THE FLOODPLAIN MAPS WERE AND NOW WHERE THEY ARE WITH THE, UM, THE NEW ENGINEERED DRAWINGS.
SO, UM, IN ADDITION TO HAVING OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WHERE WE PUT NOTICES IN THE, UM, IN THE PAPER, WE ALSO SENT OUT LETTERS TO ANYBODY WHO WAS, UH, WHO HAD PROPERTY WHO TOUCHED OR WERE COMPLETELY COVERED, UH, WITH FLOOD PAIN BASED ON THE NEW MAPS WE SENT OUT OVER 2000 LETTERS, UM, LET PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE ON OUR WEBSITE THEY CAN GO AND CLICK AT THE OLD, UH, MAPS, THE ONES THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH AND THE NEW MAPS AND SEE HOW THEY WERE IMPACTED.
UM, STAFF RECEIVED SEVERAL, UM, PHONE CALLS, UH, ABOUT THIS.
PEOPLE JUST HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW IT WOULD IMPACT THEM.
WE ALSO, UM, HAD IN OUR LETTER A WAY TO TELL THEM IF THEY DID NOT FEEL THAT THE, UM, MAPS WERE ACCURATE, UM, A WAY THAT THEY COULD APPEAL, UM, WHAT WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED IN THE MAPS.
COULDN'T JUST BE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WATER IN MY BACKYARD.
THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO HAVE SOME SORT OF VALID, UM, REASON AS TO WHY.
UM, IT WAS NOT IN THE, UM, FLOODPLAIN.
WE DID ACTUALLY HAVE THREE APPEALS AND OF THE THREE APPEALS ALL WERE ACCEPTED BY, UM, FEMA.
UM, SO JUST A LITTLE QUICK UPDATE AS TO, UM, SOME OF THE CHANGES IN THE MAPS.
UM, I HAD MENTIONED THAT THE PREVIOUS MAPS, UH, WERE, UH, NOT AS ACCURATE AND NOT AS, UM, THOROUGH.
THEY DID NOT COVER AS MUCH OF THE COUNTY.
SO NOW WE HAVE, UM, MORE AREAS OF THE COUNTY COVERED.
AND THE MORE AREAS THAT ARE COVERED ARE ALSO MUCH MORE, UM, ACCURATE AS FAR AS ACTUALLY SHOWING THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATIONS AS WELL AS, UH, THE FLOODWAYS.
UH, THERE WERE, UH, YOU KNOW, DRAWINGS, UM, THE, THE MAPS ACTUALLY REPRESENT THE DELINEATION OF MANY WATERWAYS AS WELL.
SO HERE IS A SAMPLE OF WHAT OUR MAPS LOOK LIKE.
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF, UM, OF INFORMATION ON THERE.
THE REASON I'M SHOWING YOU THIS, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH IN GREAT DETAIL, BUT IT IS TO SHOW YOU THAT, UM, THE NEW MAPS DO SHOW THINGS LIKE THE, UM, WHERE THE FLOODWAYS ARE.
UM, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE FLOODPLAIN IS AND DIFF DIFFERENT BASE ELEVATIONS AND CROSS SECTIONS.
SO WHAT, WHAT THIS ULTIMATELY MEANS IS THAT, UM, ANYBODY WHO HAS A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEY WANT TO DEVELOP IT, THEY CAN GO TO THESE MAPS AND REALLY FIND OUT IN MOST INSTANCES WHAT IS ACTUALLY REPRESENTED.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS WHERE THEY GET ENGINEERED DRAWINGS AND SUBMIT THEM TO FEMA, THAT IN MOST CASES IS NO LONGER NEEDED.
SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ORDINANCE.
SO I MENTIONED THE MAPS AND FOR THE ORDINANCE, UH, STAFF USED A, UM, FEMA'S MODEL ORDINANCE.
SO WE BASICALLY TOOK THEIR SHELL AND PUT OUR INFORMATION IN IT.
UM, IT WAS A PROCESS OF GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH, UM, THE STATE WHO WAS WORKING WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT OURS WAS, UM, HAD ALL THE PROPER TERMINOLOGY, THE CORRECT DEFINITIONS, UH, CLARIFIED DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES AND PROCESSES THAT, UM, ARE INVOLVED IN DEVELOPING PROPERTY.
UM, AND, UH, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE'S NO MAJOR CHANGES AS FAR AS, UM, WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR STRUCTURES WITHIN THE FLOOD ZONES.
SO, UM, I HAD MENTIONED THIS HAS BEEN A, A SEVERAL YEAR LONG PROCESS.
STARTED BACK IN 2018 ONCE OUR MAPS WERE APPROVED, UM, AND THE COMMENT PERIOD WAS OVER AND ALL THE AMENDMENTS WERE MADE, UH, WE HAD A, A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND THAT TIME ENDS IN OCTOBER, 2024.
SO IF, UH, THE RE RECOMMENDATION IS MADE BY THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING, IT WILL BE HEARD AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND WHEN
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ADOPTED THE MAPS AND THE ORDINANCE WILL BE, UM, OFFICIAL AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE ACTIVE IN THE PROGRAM.THAT WAS A VERY QUICK CHOPPY, UH, PRESENTATION, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.
MM-HMM,
I, I AM KIND OF SURPRISED THAT THERE WERE THREE APPEALS AND THAT THEY WERE ALL ACCEPTED.
IS THERE SOME COMMON REASON THAT THE THEY, THAT FEMA DECIDED THAT THEIR MAPS WERE INACCURATE? SO, UM, AND I'M GONNA DEPEND ON STAFF IF I GET IT WRONG, BUT, UM, THE, THE, THE PROPERTIES IN QUESTION WERE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF BEING DEVELOPED.
AND SO, ACTUALLY, IS THAT CORRECT, DEBBIE? AND SO THEY HAD ALREADY MADE THE CHANGES TO THE LAND AND SO THEY WERE JUST TAKING THE, WHAT THEY WOULD NORMALLY HAVE TO DO TO GET A CHANGE AND MAP.
THEY BASICALLY SENT THE INFORMATION THAT THEY DID TO DEVELOP, GET THE PROPERTY READY TO DEVELOP, AND THEY LOOKED AT THE ENGINEER DRAWINGS AND AGREED.
AND IS THERE A REASON WHY WE'VE WAITED UNTIL THE VERY LAST MONTH TO ACTUALLY ADOPT THESE NEW MAPS? NO.
UM, UH, THE, UM, TIMING WISE, WHEN WE HAD, UM, THE OFFICIAL MAPPING DONE, I CAN GO BACK TO THE SCHEDULE, BUT I THINK IT WAS ONLY LIKE TWO MONTHS AGO.
AND WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH TO SET AND REQUEST AND TO, UM, DISCUSS THAT THE BOARD, IT, IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T DO THIS, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT IT WOULD BE, UM, A MAJOR CHANGE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THERE WAS ANY CONCERN THAT THE BOARD WOULD NOT APPROVE THESE.
AND I GUESS THE LAST THING I WAS GONNA ASK IS, IN GENERAL, HAS THE PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY LOST BUILDABLE AREA BECAUSE OF THESE MAPS? I MEAN HAVE, OR I GUESS THAT'S JUST A CURIOSITY OF MINE.
UM, NO, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION AND I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION THAT MIGHT HELP YOU, UM, UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT.
SO I HAVE THIS, UH, CHART, UM, HAS MORE INFORMATION ON IT THAN YOUR QUESTION, BUT, SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF, OF THE, THE TYPE OF CHANGES THAT WERE MADE.
UM, IN THE NIGHT, UH, THE 2018 MAPS WE HAVE, UM, PANELS, MEANING LIKE THE AREAS THAT ARE MAPPED, WE HAVE 24 OF THEM.
SO IT TURNS OUT TO BE LIKE 40 PANELS 'CAUSE IT GETS REALLY DOWN INTO THE INFORMATION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF INDICATES THAT A LOT OF, UH, MORE DETAILED WORK WAS DONE.
AND UM, THE SECOND LINE, IT TALKS ABOUT JUST PARCELS IN GENERAL.
A LOT OF THOSE PARCELS ARE IN FACT COULD BE IN FACT, UH, VACANT 'CAUSE THEY'RE COVERED IN FLOODPLAIN.
UM, WE HAD OVER, OVER 1600 BEFORE.
NOW WE'RE AT 22 A HUNDRED PLUS.
SO THAT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MORE DETAIL THAT'S INVOLVED.
SO WHAT WOULD YOU THINK, YOU THINK A LOT MORE PEOPLE WERE IMPACTED BY THE FLOODPLAIN? MAYBE, MAYBE NOT.
IT WAS PEOPLE WERE PROBABLY IMPACTED BEFORE.
UM, OR, YOU KNOW, THE MAPS DID NOT REPRESENT THAT.
UM, BUT THIS, THE LAST LINE IS REALLY WHAT I'M WENT TO GO POINT TO.
SO OF THE STRUCTURES, THIS IS NOT PARTIALS, BUT JUST STRUCTURES THAT ARE IN THE FLOODPLAIN ON THE 2008, UM, MAPS, THERE WERE 160 TODAY.
THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE SHIFTING, UM, THERE ARE, UH, 155.
SO THAT'S POTENTIALLY, I MEAN, I GUESS WE COULD HAVE LOST SOME OF THOSE STRUCTURES, BUT THAT'S, UM, 45 THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THAT NUMBER.
AND IS THE STRUCTURE A HOUSE, A BARN, A GARAGE? IS THAT IT COULD BE ANY OF THOSE, YEAH.
I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZONING IN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
MR. PUCK, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING 'CAUSE IT'S AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
OPEN IT UP FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ZA DASH 2 0 2 4 DASH 0 0 0 2 TO ARTICLE 28 REGARDING FLOODPLAIN DISTRICTS AND UPDATED FEMA MAPS.
PASSED THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024, WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
OUR FINAL PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TONIGHT IS COUNTYWIDE ZOA 20 24 1 AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE,
[6. Countywide - ZOA-2024-00001 Amendment to Zoning Ordinance (County Code Chapter 15) Secs. 15-233, 15-243, 15-253, 15-264 and 15-273 (District Standards) to remove floor area ratio (FAR) requirements in the Business, Neighborhood (B-N), Business, General (B-1), Commercial Interchange (B-3), Industrial, Limited (M-1), and Industrial, General (M-2) zoning districts]
COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 15, SECTIONS 15, 2 33, 2 43, 2 53, 2 64, AND 2 73 DISTRICT STANDARDS TO[01:45:01]
REMOVE FLOOR AREA RATIO FAR REQUIREMENTS IN THE BUSINESS NEIGHBORHOOD, BN BUSINESS GENERAL B ONE COMMERCIAL INTERCHANGE, B THREE INDUSTRIAL LIMITED, M1, AND INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO ZONING DISTRICTS.UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UH, FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
I APPRECIATE YOU STICKING AROUND, UM, FOR THIS.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE WITH FLORIA RATIO, SOMETHING THAT'S INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH DOESN'T COME UP A LOT, BUT YET WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT, UH, IN A COUPLE DIFFERENT MEETINGS, UH, WITH YOU, UM, IN YOUR SHORT TIMES HERE.
UM, SO BY THIS FLORIA RATIO, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND TALK ABOUT IT.
REALLY, IT'S A ZONING TOOL THAT CAN BE UTILIZED WHEN REALLY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REGULATING THE SIZE OR THE VOLUME, UM, OF THE BUILDING OR STRUCTURES THAT ARE ON A LOT, UM, SIZES.
LOCATIONS COULD ALSO BE CONTROLLED, UM, IN OUR ORDINANCE THROUGH ALSO A MASTER OR A CONCEPT PLAN UTILIZING PLANNING GOALS.
IN BROADER TERMS. TYPICALLY, YOU'LL SEE IT WHERE THERE IS SPECIAL DISTRICTS, AREAS WHERE YOU REALLY AN ANTICIPATE DEVELOPMENT IN SOME CASES INTENSE DEVELOPMENT, OR YOU'RE ENCOURAGED THE BULK OF DEVELOPABLE DENSITY TO BE HIGHER.
A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL SEE THAT OFTEN AND, AND, UH, UH, MORE URBANIZED AREA AND FORM-BASED CODES.
IT'S ALSO USED IN INCENTIVE ZONING WHERE TYPICALLY THERE'S A TRADE OFF IN DIFFERENT IMPROVEMENTS, UH, OR DIFFERENT USES, UM, TO INCREASE DENSITY.
UH, PERFORMANCE ZONING IS ALSO ANOTHER AREA, UH, DEVELOPMENT CODES WHERE WE REALLY ANTICIPATE, LIKE I SAID, IN HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, TYPICALLY A MINIMUM FAR IS WHERE YOU WANT PEOPLE TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS OR YOU CONCENTRATE YOUR GROWTH TO PLANNED AREAS.
NOW, HERE IN GLAND, OUR ZONING ORDINANCE REALLY PROVIDES FOR THE MAXIMUM FAR, AND WE DO THAT IN ALL OUR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS AS WELL AS THE RPUD AND NPUD DISTRICTS.
UM, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS TO REQUEST TO REMOVE THOSE FROM THE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.
SO WE HAVE BEEN BEFORE YOU RECENTLY TO AMEND THE DEFINITION OF WHAT FLOOR AREA RATIO COVERS.
IT'S A, IT'S A FORMULA THAT NOW IT'S LOCKED IN AHEAD.
YOU USED HAVE TO LOOK IT UP WHEN IT CAME UP, BUT IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE.
YOU CONSIDER THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF A BUILDING AND YOU DIVIDE IT BY THE GROWTH BARRIER OF A LOT.
OR IN OUR CASE, ALSO PROJECT AREA.
UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT THE GROWTH BARRIER IS, IT DOES EVERYTHING THAT'S WITHIN THE WALLS AND WE HAVE CERTAIN EXCLUSIONS FOR THINGS THAT ARE REALLY NOT TYPICALLY OCCUPIABLE, UM, OR USABLE TYPE SPACE.
UH, WHEN WE DID THE CODE AMENDMENT, UH, AGAIN, WE CONSIDERED NOT JUST A LOT, BUT WITHIN A MASTER PLAN OR THAT'S SOMETHING, A CONCEPT PLAN THAT COMES THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS TO ALLOW FOR A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY OF HOW FAR IS USED.
SO AS FAR, JUST LIKE OTHER REGULATIONS, IT IS A REGULATORY TOOL.
UM, A STANDALONE, WHICH IN SOME PLACES IT'S USED, UM, PRIMARILY, UH, ON ITS OWN OR WITH OTHER LIMITED TYPE OF PROVISIONS.
UM, IT COULD RESTRICT OR ENCOURAGE DENSITY.
UM, IT'S USEFULNESS REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SCENARIO THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, HAVING A FLURRY OF TWO, FOR INSTANCE, THAT'S SEEN IN THE RED, UM, COULD LEAD TO BASICALLY A USE WITH NO SETBACKS.
'CAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE SETBACK REGULATIONS, PROPERTY CAN, THE BUILDING CAN BE TWO TIMES THE AREA.
SO YOU'RE DOUBLE STACKING A PROPERTY.
UM, FA O2 WITH OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENTS IS OFTEN YOU'LL SEE IN REALLY URBANIZED TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTS.
AGAIN, IT SORT OF PUSHES THE PROPERTY OR SORT OF ENCOURAGES THE PROPERTY GO UP AND CREATE OPEN SPACE OR SETBACKS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DO THAT ALREADY THROUGH REGULATION.
SO THIS IS THE EXAMPLE DIRECTLY OUT OF THE ORDINANCE SHOWS YOU THE REALLY, THE CALCULATIONS PRETTY SIMPLISTIC.
UM, IF, IF YOU GOT IT WRITTEN UP ON THE SCREEN.
UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE A SINGLE FOUR SINGLE STORY BUILDING, 26,136.
IT'S ON AN ACRE AND A HALF, WHICH 65, 3 40, WE GET THE 0.4 FAR.
UM, THE FAR IS THE SAME IF IT'S A TWO STORY BUILDING.
IF YOU TAKE AND WENT FROM A SPREAD OUT ONE FLOOR TO A STOOD UP TWO STORY, SAME FAR EQUIVALENT AS WE DID RECENTLY.
UM, WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE COMMISSION.
UM, IT WAS PUT FORWARD AND ADOPTED AND, UM, BY THE BOARD WE DID CHANGE IT TO CONSIDER ON A PROJECT AREA.
THE VOLUME OF THE LAND WAS ALREADY THERE.
WE ASKED FOR THE, I MEAN, THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE WAS THE PROJECT EXAMPLE THAT WAS UTILIZED, TAKE THE SAME INITIAL AREA, UM, THAT WAS LIMITED TO A CERTAIN FAR ADD IN THE PROJECT BOUNDS.
THEY WANNA PUT IN DIFFERENT PROPERTY LINES.
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IS STILL OUT OF HERE.WE WROTE THE SAME FAR AS PRODUCED OUT OF THE PROJECT ITSELF.
SO, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY, BUT WHEN YOU DO THIS, YOU CREATE THESE SMALLER TYPE LOTS.
AND SO INDIVIDUALLY, THOSE LOTS THEMSELVES MAY EXCEED OR BE WAY BELOW WHAT THE MINE FAR REQUIREMENTS ARE.
AND REALLY IT'S THE PROJECT CONSIDERATION, AGAIN FOR FAR OF CONSIDERING REGULATORY TOOL, A REGULATORY TOOL.
AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE THERE.
AND SO PART OF THE CONSIDERATION THAT STAFF AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN THROUGH, AND WE THINK ABOUT WHY DO WE STILL NEED FAR OR WHY IS FAR, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATION A, A MAXIMUM FAR.
WHY? WHAT'S THE BENEFIT? UM, WE DO HAVE SETBACKS.
WE HAVE BUILDING SETBACKS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED THROUGH OUR ZONING DISTRICTS.
DISTRICTS HAVE DIFFERENT SETBACK STANDARDS.
WE HAVE ALSO DIFFERENT, UH, SETBACKS AND THINGS NEGOTIATED.
WE TYPICALLY, ESPECIALLY WHERE INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL ADJACENT TO, UM, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES OR, OR INCOMPATIBLE PROPERTIES, YOU'D HAVE BUFFERS UTILIZED ONSITE PARKING.
ONSITE PARKING ITSELF IN A SUBURBAN, UH, LOCALITY IS A HUGE, UM, IMPACT.
BUT THE USABILITY AS ON THE PROPERTY NOW IN CONSIDERATION PARKING ITSELF IS A USE.
BUT WHEN YOU THINK OF THE COMMERCIAL INVESTMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, WE'RE HOPING THAT PEOPLE WOULD COME TO DO IN GLAND COUNTY.
THE BIGGER THE BUILDING, THE BIGGER THE PARKING.
UM, SO PARKING ITSELF OFTEN BECOMES AN OFFSET AND TO WHAT LIMITS THE BUILDABILITY OR THE BUILDING AREA ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT IS REALLY A FACTOR, AND I I THINK WITH, UH, MISS SHERRY TALKING A LITTLE BIT OUT THERE, STORMWATER STORM WATER IS A, IS IN THIS ENVIRONMENT TODAY FOR OUR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL USERS.
A HUGE THING AFFECTS OUR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS AS WELL.
YOU HAVE TO CONTAIN YOUR, WHAT YOUR, YOUR DRAINAGE AND YOUR PURPOSENESS, YOUR OFFSETS ON YOUR SITE, YOUR STORM WATER.
SO OFTEN THAT ALSO MITIGATES WHAT'S ON THE SITE.
WE ALSO HAVE IN OUR ORDINANCE BUILDING HEIGHT LIMITS THE INSTANCE DISTRICT.
DIFFERENT DISTRICTS HAD DIFFERENT HEIGHTS, AS TOM MENTIONED EARLIER.
WE ALSO HAVE SOME DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW YOU TO INCREASE YOUR HEIGHT BY OFFSETTING WITH MORE SETBACK.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO PART OF THE CONSIDERATION WHEN WE THINK OF FAR IS, UM, WHAT OTHER TOOLS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE THAT IS CONTROLLING WHAT WE THINK OF AS POTENTIALLY IMPACTS ON OUR NEIGHBORS.
UM, I'LL FINISH ON THIS SLIDE, BUT THINGS THAT MAY BE THE NUISANCE FACTOR.
YOU ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE CONSIDER COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN USES.
THERE'S ALSO A CONSIDERATION OF SEPARATION.
WE HAVE SETBACKS, WHICH PROMOTES SORT OF A SPACE ON THE PROPERTY OPENINGS.
IF YOU THINK, IF YOU'LL PROBABLY LEARN IT WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR PLANNING COMMISSIONER TRAINING, SORT OF THE ORIGINAL, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE BASE ZONING OF WHERE THINGS CAME ABOUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING REGULATIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE WHAT IS A VERY, UH, TRADITIONAL EUCLIDEAN TYPE OF ZONING THAT REALLY PUTS THINGS IN ITS PLACE WE EXPECT YOU TO BUILD WITHIN THIS SPECIFIC AREA.
WE'VE PUT YOU IN A BOX OF HEIGHT, YOU KNOW, SO WHERE WE'VE DONE THAT, YOU KNOW, FAR IS AN ADDITIONAL BONUS, BUT IT BECOMES MORE A RESTRICTION FOR THOSE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE PROPERTIES THAT PEOPLE PURCHASE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY, THEY HAVE SPACE WITHIN THEIR SETBACK.
IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF USE THAT PERHAPS DOESN'T NEED HUGE AMOUNTS OF PARKING.
OR THEY, THEY LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY AND SAY, WE'D LIKE TO BE TALLER THAN JUST A SINGLE STORY BUILDING.
AND SO IF IT'S NOT IMPOSING THESE OTHER ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT ARE BEYOND WHAT WE PUT IN AS REGULATORY CONTROLS, WHAT IS FAR SERVING? UM, SO REALLY THIS COMES DOWN TO IS WHY STAFF HAS PUT FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATION TO REMOVE FAR, UM, ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS IS, IS PRIME.
YOU'LL SEE THAT WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO COMPETE WITHIN OUR REGION.
IT'S NOT A SHARED FAR IS NOT IN OUR SURROUNDING LOCALITIES.
UM, ALSO FAR, UH, I'M SORRY, MAXIMUM FAR.
IT'S NOT IN OUR SURROUNDING LOCALITIES.
WE ALSO WANT PEOPLE TO COME IN AND MAKE AN INVESTMENT THAT'S PART OF THE RISK THAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE.
WE'D ALSO LIKE THEM TO STAY HERE AND EXPAND.
WE WANT THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO EXPAND WITHIN THE OTHER BOUNDS WE HAVE ESTABLISHED HERE IN WHICH ARE VERY COMMON TO OTHER LOCALITIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONCERN COMES UP, WELL, WHY DON'T THEY JUST GO THROUGH ZONING? WELL, THERE'S A RISK OF ZONING DELAY, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, OUR CORPORATE CLIENT TONIGHT, YES, THEY SUCCEEDED AND AND WE'RE APPROVED, UM, BY THIS TONIGHT, BUT IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE.
AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'S BAD BUSINESSES OR OTHER TYPE OF THINGS.
IS THAT, AGAIN, THERE IS A PUBLIC PROCESS
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WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE ZONING.SO CONSIDERATION IS IF THAT USER IS COMING IN FOR AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
WE AS STAFF WORK WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND EVERYONE TO LOOK, IS THAT USE PERMITTED IN THAT DISTRICT? DO WE, WE ALREADY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC HAS ALREADY WORKED OUT.
WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT USE HERE.
WELL, WHY DO WE NEED TO GO THROUGH A ZONING PROS PROCESS FOR OTHER TYPES OF EXCEPTIONS? AND WHY THROW ANOTHER, UM, THING IN THE WAY? UM, WE ALSO HAVE LIMITED COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL LANDS AVAILABLE.
UH, ONE OF OUR GOAL, I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME IS RURAL PRESERVATION.
SO WE ONLY HAVE CERTAIN AREAS WHERE WE'VE CONCENTRATED DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAVE THOSE IN OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA AND OTHER CENTERS SUCH AS OUR SMALL VILLAGES, SANDY HOOK, CROSSROADS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE HAVE LIMITED COMMERCIAL ABILITY IN THOSE.
UM, WE PROTECT OUR RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREAS FROM CREEP.
WE'D LIKE TO, WE'D LIKE TO SAY WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THOSE PLACES WHERE WE'VE ALL ANTICIPATED DEVELOPMENT WOULD CONCUR, WHERE WE'VE INVESTED THE MONEY FOR THOSE TO BE THERE.
WELL AS PART OF THAT, WE SHOULD ENCOURAGE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THOSE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.
SO ANYTHING THAT FURTHER LIMITS THE USABILITY OF THOSE PROPERTIES, OR BETTER YET, NOT JUST THE USE, BUT TO INVEST IN, IN BUILDINGS AND INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THOSE, THAT'S GREAT FOR OUR TAX BASE.
AND IT PREVENTS US THE SPRAWL THAT WE FEAR OR OTHER TYPE OF EXPANSIONS BEYOND OUR SERVICES.
UM, WE ALSO, AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE THOSE OTHER STANDARD THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN AGREED UPON THAT REALLY COVER, UM, AND ADDRESS THE IMPACTS THAT WE EXPECT OR FEAR FROM OTHER DEVELOPMENT.
SO AGAIN, OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA IS SHOWN HERE.
GENERALLY THE PURPLES ARE OUR INDUSTRIAL LANDS OR A, UM, FLEX, UH, FLEX INDUSTRIAL, THE GRAY THAT STANDS OUT, THAT'S OUR PROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREA.
AND THE REDS ARE OUR COMMERCIAL ZONES.
IF YOU SEE, EVEN WHEN IT EXPANDS INTO THE REST OF THE COUNTY, THEY'RE IN VERY LIMITED AREAS THAT, UH, REALLY AROUND INTERCHANGES OR MAJOR VILLAGES OR CROSSROADS.
SO REALLY THE INTENT IS TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE CAN WITHIN THOSE AREAS.
SO WE DID HOLD A COMMUNITY MEETING THE SAME NIGHT THAT WE ACTUALLY, UH, HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING REGARD, UH, THE FEMA ORDINANCE, THEN ALSO THE EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL ORDINANCE THAT SAME NIGHT.
UH, MOST THE PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED WE'RE GLAD TO STAY WITH ME AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT FAR AND NO, I DO.
AND WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION, SOME GREAT COMMENTS THAT CAME OUT FROM THAT.
UM, THE COMMENTS REALLY RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE CHANGING? WHERE ARE WE HERE A MONTH AGO? UM, AND THE CONCERN, AND WE'VE TRIED TO, YOU KNOW, EXPLAIN WHY WE'D LIKE TO ELIMINATE THAT AS STAFF.
UM, ALSO THE FEAR THAT LARGER BUILDINGS WOULD HAVE GREATER IMPACT.
UM, AS WE MENTIONED, STAFF FEELS THAT WE'VE EXPLAINED IT, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACTS ARE ALREADY, THE PROTECTIONS FROM THOSE IMPACTS ARE BAKED INTO OUR, OUR BASE STANDARDS.
THE REMOVAL OF THE FAR WOULD LEAD TO IN DIRE UNDESIRABLE BUSINESSES OR USERS.
UM, NO, I MEAN IT'S THE ZONING ORDINANCE USE MATRIX FOR EACH OF THOSE DISTRICTS THAT CONTROLS WHO THE USER IS AND OTHER BOUNDS.
UM, MAXIMUM FAR HELPS PROTECT GLAND'S CHARACTER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN ABOUT STAND TO SCALE AND IN DO, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THEIR COMMENTS, BUT I THINK GLAND IS MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
AND THE OTHER THINGS IS REALLY THEY BROUGHT UP AS CONCERNS IS OF QUESTIONING IS, IS THEIR ABILITY FOR BEING AN EXCEPTION PROCESS THAT THE BOARD WOULD BE A FINAL AUTHORITY OR, YOU KNOW, SHOULD, DO WE HAVE THE WRONG NUMBERS FOR FAR? SHOULD THEY BE, UM, STUDIED, UH, OR INCREASED? UM, WE HAVE RECEIVED ONE EMAIL, UM, IN OPPOSITION TO THIS CHANGE SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS MEETING.
THERE WILL BE AN, UM, WE DO HAVE A, UM, A LETTER IN SUPPORT THAT WAS RECEIVED BY, RECEIVED BY THE SLAND EDA, UM, FOR THAT.
AND OF COURSE, I'M HERE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS YOU MENTIONED REALLY QUICKLY.
UM, OTHER LOCALITIES DO NOT HAVE THIS MAXIMUM.
CAN YOU JUST, JUST DO WE, OH, THERE WE GO.
YOU KNOW, IT JUST POPPED IN MY HEAD.
UM, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS THESE DAYS, WE'RE COMPETING AS A REGION.
WE'RE ALSO COMPETING WITH OTHER REGIONS.
UM, SO REALLY IT'S NOT FREQUENT, IT'S NOT USED.
AND, AND AS I MENTIONED, IT IS A TOOL, IT IS A GOOD TOOL WHERE IT'S UTILIZED IN CERTAIN THINGS, BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY THE, IT'S TYPICALLY THE OPPOSITE WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE A HIGHER FAR WHERE YOU INVESTED PROPERTY.
SO FOR CHESTERFIELD, PAMP, LUVANA, HENRICO, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T REALLY HAVE IT.
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LUVANA HAS IT, NOT IN THEIR BASE DISTRICTS.THEY HAVE A MINIMUM FAR IN ZION, CROSSROADS URBAN DEVELOPMENT AREA.
THE REASON THEY'VE MADE A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN THAT, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU'RE COMING IN, YOU'RE GIVEN SOMETHING, UH, MORE THAN A, A VACANT LOT OR A SMALL BUILDING.
UM, FOR THE INSTANCE OF RICHMOND CITY, UM, RICHMOND CITY, YEAH, THEY HAVE SEVERAL IN DIFFERENT ZONES.
AND FOR INSTANCE, IN THEIR COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL HAS AN FAR OF SIX MINIMUM.
DO I WANT US TO BE THERE? DO I ANTICIPATE GOOCHLAND BEING THERE? NO.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT IN OTHER WORDS, IT HAS A USE BECAUSE ISRAEL, THAT THEY, THE, THAT LOCALITY IS THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY.
WE'VE PUT IN ROADS, SEWER, THE, LIKE, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF THING.
ARE THERE ANY EXAMPLES OF, UH, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD, WE DO HAVE, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY, THEY'VE BEEN SPLIT UP OVER DIFFERENT TIMES.
NOT TYPICALLY TARGETED FOR A SINGLE USE OR A, YOU KNOW, OR THAT USE CAME IN DISAPPEARED AND THINGS.
IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP AS AN AREA OF CONCERN TO LOOK AT.
BUT DO WE KNOW THAT THAT'S THE FINAL DETERMINATION IN THEIR ACTION? I, I, I CAN'T HONESTLY SAY, YOU KNOW, PROSPECTS COME AND GO.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR US, AND I, I'M NOT, I SHOULDN'T SPEAK FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT I'VE BEEN IN THIS
YOU KNOW, YOU WANT REASONS TO HELP 'EM SAY YES WHEN IT'S A BENEFIT AND GOOD FOR YOUR COUNTY.
UM, SO IT'S JUST ONE MORE THING THAT WE FEEL LIKE PUTS US DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS.
THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER FACTOR THAT BECOMES OF CONCERN.
UM, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF, SOME OF THE MARKETS, CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE THESE DAYS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ADVANCED MANUFACTURING TYPE OF ELEMENTS.
IN OUR INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS, THESE THINGS USED TO BE SMALLER BUILDINGS WITH LOTS OF SMOKE STACKS.
NOW IT'S BIGGER BUILDINGS WITH LOTS OF THINGS INSIDE.
AND IT SAYS LOTS OF THINGS INSIDE
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S ACTUALLY A GOOD THING WE HAVE THESE LARGER BUILDINGS, UM, FOR THE, THOSE TURNS.
OTHER THAN THAT, THAT GROUP, HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD ANY ISSUES WITH US HAVING FAR? UM, I'M NOT SURE.
I, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS, YOU KNOW, I, IT WASN'T ALWAYS AROUND.
UM, I HAD THE LIST I, 10, 15 YEARS AGO, UM, BEFORE IT ORIGINALLY CAME ABOUT.
YEAH, 2006 WHEN THE FIRST TIME IT WAS BROUGHT INTO THE ORDINANCE DIDN'T COME AGAIN, IT GOT UPDATED AND CHANGED AROUND 2019 EXPANDED.
SO THERE COULD BE PROJECTS OUT THERE THAT, THAT THEY MAY NOT HAVE
UM, YOU KNOW, IT, I GUESS THE CONCERN IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IS IT THAT WE FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT OTHER LIMITATIONS IN PLACE THAT WOULD'VE SERVED FOR FAR.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, AGAIN, UH, AT FROM THIS OUR STAFF'S POINT OF VIEW, SEEING THE ONE THAT WE JUST WENT THROUGH WITH THE PROJECT FOR, UM, THE MINI STORAGE SITE THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED IS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD HAVE FLEXIBILITY WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THAT SITE FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE OTHER CONDITIONS AND THE LIKE, AND TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN, THAT YOU COULD UNDER OUR RESTRICTIONS.
I WILL NOW OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
LINDA MOORE, 2164 CRAWFORD ROAD MANNEQUIN SEVEN.
I YIELD MY TIME TO ROB WILLIAMSON.
2 2 6 2 WHEATLAND DRIVE, MANNEQUIN SABOT YIELDING MY TIME.
LARRY BARKER, 2170 MANNEQUIN ROAD.
I'M ALSO YIELDING MY TIME, ROB WILLIAMSON.
2 2 6 2 WHEATLAND TRIBE MANNEQUIN SABBATH.
MR. WILLIAMSON, NOW I APOLOGIZE IF I'M GONNA READ FAST.
JUST INTERRUPT YOU FOR A SECOND.
I THINK ALL OF THAT ADDS UP TO 10 MINUTES.
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MUCH.WITH THAT IN MIND, I WILL NOT, I'LL TRY NOT TO READ SO FAST.
I'LL START WITH WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ECONOMIC GROWTH.
A 2010 INDUSTRY REPORT INDICATED THAT ECONOMIC GROWTH IS MORE ABOUT QUANTITY.
WHILE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS MORE ABOUT QUALITY.
IN CHAPTER FOUR, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GOAL IS TO NURTURE A CLIMATE THAT WILL ATTRACT HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.
NOT DEVELOPMENT AT ALL COSTS AND ALL RISKS FAR IS NOT AN UNNECESSARY BURDEN.
IT'S A CRITICAL PLANNING TOOL THAT PROMOTES HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT AS INSURED BY THE COMP PLAN.
IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHOR'S RECENT LETTER TO THE COMMISSION, THEY STATE THAT THEIR MISSION IS TO FACILITATE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL GROWTH.
BUT THEY ALSO SUPPORT REMOVING FAR FROM COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
TO ME THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ARE NOT ALIGNED AND HAVE CONFLICTING GOALS.
NOW HERE'S THE LETTER'S, ARGUMENTS IN FAVOR OF ELIMINATING FARR'S CRITICAL TO REMOVE AS MANY RISKS AS POSSIBLE.
THERE WERE NO, NO EXAMPLES IN THE LETTER OR AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE FARR WAS THE WRIST THAT SANK A PROJECT.
AND WE ASKED REPEATEDLY, AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANY TONIGHT, HEARD A LOT OF MAZE.
BUT HOW CAN YOU REMOVE ONE OF THE TOOLS IN THE PLANNING TOOLBOX WITHOUT KNOWING, WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THE OTHER RISKS ARE? FAR AS NOT WILLY-NILLY REQUIREMENT, IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR YEARS AS WE HEARD, 20 2006 OR SO.
IDENTIFY A BUILDING WHEN IT'S TOO BIG AND OUT OF CHARACTER, WHICH IS A KEY COMPONENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
MAINTAIN PROPER SIZE AND SCOPE AND CHARACTER.
BEING UNIQUE TO GOLIN IS NOT A RISK.
THE RISK IS NOT KEEPING THE TOOLS THAT MAKE A SUB.
NOW HERE'S FOUR IN A NUTSHELL.
IF YOU CAN IMAGINE A FOOTBALL FIELD GOAL, LINE TO GOAL LINE, SIDELINE THE SIDELINE, THAT'S A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE.
SO EACH ZONING FAR, EACH ZONING HAS A FAR VALUE THAT PUTS THE RIGHT SIZE BUILDING IN THAT ZONING.
B THREE IS 0.6, AND M1 AND M TWO ARE 0.5.
IF YOU LOOK AT BN, THAT'S RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS.
SO WHAT IF YOU LOOK AT SIDE TO SIDE, SIDELINE TO SIDELINE GOLD LINE THAT YOU CAN GO OUT TO THE 25 YARD LINE AND THAT'S YOUR FOOTPRINT OF TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THAT FOOTBALL FIELD OR THAT ACRE.
OKAY, SOUNDS REASONABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL BUSINESS.
NOW, BB ONE WOULD BE OUT TO THE 40 YARD LINE.
SO ALL THE SPACE FROM SIDELINE TO SIDELINE GOLDEN 40 YARD LINE WOULD BE AVAILABLE.
SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THAT PROPERTY, THAT ONE FOOTBALL FIELD.
AND THE B THREE AT 0.6 WOULD BE TO THE OPPONENT'S 40 M1 AND M TWO WOULD BE TO THE 50 YARD LINE.
HALF THE ACRE IS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE REGARDLESS OF THE LENGTH WIDTH OR THE HEIGHT OR THE NUMBER OF STORIES.
SO IT MAY MAY NOT SOUND THAT BIG FOR THE SINGLE ACRE, BUT IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED ACRE PROJECT THAT'S 50 ACRES OF INTERNAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF AVAILABLE FOR THAT PROJECT, THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF MACHINES THAT CATCH FIRE AND LOTS OF PEOPLE POSSIBLY NEEDING EMTS.
THESE FLEXIBLE RATIOS WORK WITH HEIGHT LIMITS TO ENSURE THE RIGHT SIZE BUILDINGS IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
AND I CONTEND THAT FAR AS THE BASIS FOR CONTROLLING SIZE OF YOUR MASTER PLANS.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A BASE BASIS WHEN YOU HAVE A PROCESS THAT LIMITS SOMETHING BECAUSE AN ATTORNEY IS GONNA ASK YOU WHERE THAT CAME FROM.
NOW THE NEXT JUSTIFICATION IS REMOVE AS MANY UNKNOWNS AS POSSIBLE.
FAR AS NOT AN UNKNOWN, IT'S JUST MATH.
THE ONLY TIME FAR CAME OUT TO WHERE IT WAS CAME OUTTA NOWHERE IS WHEN A DEVELOPER EXTRA ADDICT, THEY, THEY MADE SOME MISTAKES.
THIS PROJECT MET FAR AND HAD NO ISSUES AND WAS APPROVED AFTER APPROVALS.
HE WAS STUCK FROM SELLING THE ANCHOR PARCEL BECAUSE IT EXCEEDED FAR FOR THEIR LOAN PROPERTY.
SO STAFF AT THE TIME RECOMMENDED FOR REMOVAL.
THE PREVIOUS COMMISSION DEFERRED WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO FIND A FIX WITHOUT GETTING RID OF THE TOOL.
SO IN, IN AN EFFORT TO SAVE THE PROJECT, THE DEVELOPER COMMUNITY AND STAFF WORKED TOGETHER TO CREATE A FAR CONDITION WHERE YOU COULD SELL PROJECT LEVEL PARCELS.
OTHER LOCALES ALLOW SELLING ANCHOR PARCELS.
AND NOW WE DO TOO WITH NO INTERFERENCE FROM FAR, THAT'S A TEAM WIN.
AND GOOSE ONE'S GOT A BETTER VERSION OF THE FAR BECAUSE OF IT.
THE NEXT JUSTIFICATION WAS GET RID OF FAR.
SO PROJECTS CAN HAVE A LEVEL OF COMFORT ABOUT
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DEVELOPABILITY.WHEN THEY SAY PROJECTS, THEY MEAN DEVELOPERS.
JUST HOW COMFORTABLE ARE YOU WITH DISCARDING ORDINANCE PROVISIONS TO MAKE DEVELOPERS MORE COMFORTABLE? THAT SOUNDS LIKE A WIN FOR THEM AND A LOSE FOR US.
I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, AND NEITHER SHOULD YOU.
THE NEXT JUSTIFICATION IS REMOVING FAR, WE'LL ALIGN OUR REQUIREMENTS WITH OTHER LOCALITIES, AND THAT GOES IN HAND WITH THE C COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, DISCUSSIONS WHERE THEY SAID, MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS DON'T USE FAR THOSE THAT DO TYPICALLY USE MINIMUMS TO DRIVE DENSITY.
WE, WE HAD MAXIMUMS, THEREFORE, WE NEED TO GET RID OF IT.
THE FACT THAT IT'S USED DIFFERENTLY OR NOT AT ALL IN OTHER LOCALITIES IS NOT A JUSTIFICATION FOR ELIMINATING THIS TOOL FOR QUALITY DEVELOPMENT FROM OUR TOOLBOX.
ACTUALLY, IN MY OPINION, IT SHOWS A LACK OF APPRECIATION FOR WHAT THE TOOL ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHES FOR GLAND'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE SERVICES.
IMAGINE IF THERE WAS NO FAR, WE COULD END UP WITH RATIOS 0.8 0.9 OR LIKE SOME URBAN AREAS THAT HAVE MAXIMUMS. 1.5 OR THREE, YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IF YOU GET RID OF FAR, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY LIMITS.
IF YOU CONSIDER AVERY POINT AND BON SECOUR AS THE LARGEST HARD SPOTS IN FIRE AND RESCUE IN THE COUNTY IS GROWING TO OVER 700 EMERGENCY CALLS A YEAR.
WITHOUT FAR IT COULD HAVE BEEN EVEN BIGGER.
AND WITH HUNDREDS OF MORE CALLS, THIS OVERLOAD COULD BE REPEATED.
WITH EVERY NEW PROJECT COMING DOWN THE PIKE, IS THAT REALLY WHAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WANTS TO BRING TO GLAND COUNTY? AND FINALLY, THE LAST JUSTIFICATION.
WE DON'T NEED FAR FOR COMMERCIAL BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER REQUIREMENTS, BUFFER SETBACKS, HEIGHTS, PARKING, AND I HEARD A NEW ONE TONIGHT, STORM WATER.
THAT'S JUST LUCK OF THE DRAW, WHETHER YOU HAVE WATER ON YOUR PROPERTY OR NOT.
SO WHEN LOCALITIES SET ANYWAY, THAT WE HAVE THESE TOOLS THAT DO THE SAME THING.
I BEG TO DIFFER WHEN LOCATED SIDE BY SIDE WITH OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, BUFFERS ARE LIMITED UNLESS THEY'RE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S NOT LIKE FOR LIKE WITH FAR, WHEN THE SAME SIDE BY SIDE CONFIGURATION OF BUSINESS TO BUSINESS, SETBACKS ARE REDUCED BY 66%.
TYPICALLY, IF YOU LOOK IN THE ORDINANCE, YOU HAVE A 30 FOOT BUFFER THAT'S FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
YOU GOT 30 FEET IN ONE DIRECTION AND 30 FEET ON THE OTHER.
WELL, IF IT'S IN A BUSINESS DISTRICT, YOU REMOVE THAT, YOU CAN REDUCE THAT TO 10 FEET.
HEIGHT IS AN UPPER LIMIT REGARDLESS OF THE FOOTPRINT AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ONTARIO VOLUME.
THAT THAT'S NOT EVEN IN THE EQUATION.
PARKING SPACES ARE OFTEN BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT PARKING SPACE CALCULATIONS CANNOT PREVENT LARGE SPANS OF ASPHALT WITH LIMITED LANDSCAPING BETWEEN SETBACKS AND THE MEGA SIZED BUILDINGS.
WHEN FORESTS ELIMINATED, THE GREEN SPACES IT BRINGS WILL BE ELIMINATED TO BOTTOM LINE BUFFER SETBACKS, ET CETERA, DO NOT, DO NOT LIKE, OR NOT LIKE FAR, EXCUSE ME.
SO IF YOU, I I'M SURPRISED TONIGHT THAT REMOVAL OF PHA WOULD BRING IN, UH, UNDESIRED USES.
IF YOU HAVE A RESTRICTION THAT PREVENTS UNDESIRABLE USES, GETTING RID OF THE RESTRICTION DOESN'T BRING IN MORE.
SO I, I JUST FIND THAT BACKWARDS.
SO, AND I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA, THERE ARE MULTIPLE COLORS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE ONE 19, THERE ARE MULTIPLE COLORS, LOW DENSITY, MEDIUM DENSITY BUSINESS, UH, PRIME, ET CETERA.
IF WE REALLY WANT TO GET RID OF FAR, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE DESIGNATED GROSS AREA ALL ONE COLORED LAND USE AND BE DONE WITH IT AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS TYPE OF THING.
AGAIN, THAT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF THE COMP PLAN AND ITS LAND USE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT.
SO IN CONCLUSION, WELL, IN CONCLUSION, I WOULD SAY I FOUND NO COMPELLING EVIDENCE FOR FAR THAT FARS ARE A PROBLEM.
I FIND NO COMPELLING EVIDENCE FAR SHOULD BE REMOVED.
AND LET ME ASK YOU THIS SPECIFICALLY.
WHEN FAR DOESN'T WORK, WE END UP WITH UNDESIRED.
WE END UP WITH OVERSIZED, WE END UP WITH THINGS WITHOUT A CHARACTER.
WHAT DO WE CHOP IN NEXT? PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THE REMOVAL OF FAR PROVISIONS FROM COMMERCIAL ZONINGS.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS, MADAM COUNCIL, ADAM SECRETARY BEN SLOAN, 2 0 5 2 MAINTENANCE ROAD, MAINES, VIRGINIA 2 3 1 0 2.
AND UNLESS OBJECTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE LETTER THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED FROM THE EDA TO THE
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PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.AND IT IS, IS ADDRESSED AS SUCH AND DATED YESTERDAY'S DATE.
THE AIR, UH, THE ACTUAL SUBJECT MATTER IS FLOOR AREA RATIO ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
DEAR HONOR MEMBERS TO THE UCHIN BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND PLANNING COMMISSION, PLEASE ACCEPT THIS LETTER AS A SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO REMOVE THE FLOOR AREA RATIO, FAR REQUIREMENT FROM THE INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
AS YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF THE GLAND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IS TO FILL, FACILITATE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL GROWTH IN THE COUNTY.
IN KEEPING WITH THE MISSION OF THE GLAND, EDA, WE SUPPORT THIS AMENDMENT.
REMOVAL OF THE FAR REQUIREMENT IN INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS WILL REMOVE A POTENTIAL BARRIER TO INVESTMENT IN THE AREAS WHERE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL GROWTH IS DESIRED.
IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, IT IS CRITICAL TO REDUCE AS MUCH RISK AND UNKNOWNS AS POSSIBLE.
REMOVING THE FAR REQUIREMENT WILL ALLOW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TO HAVE A LEVEL OF GOOD COMFORT ABOUT THE DEVELOPABILITY OF A SITE.
IN ADDITION, REMOVING FAR WILL ALIGN OUR REQUIREMENTS WITH OTHER LOCALITIES IN THE REGION WITH WHOM WE COMPETE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
THANK YOU FOR THE CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF THIS AMENDMENT.
SINCERELY, BEN SLOAN, HENCE MYSELF, WHO I ALSO SERVE AS THE CHAIR OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
AND LET ME THROW OUT ONE EXAMPLE OF WHERE THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
UM, AS DEVELOPMENT HAS CHANGED, TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED.
IN PARTICULAR, UH, UH, ONE CONCEPT IS DATA CENTERS WITHIN THE SPACE OF DATA CENTERS, THIS BECOMES A ISSUE.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS? AND BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, UH, PLEASE FORGIVE ME CHAIR, FOR ADDRESSING A NUMBER MEMBER OF THE BOARD OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, WHAT WHAT HAPPENS IS VARIOUS ENTITIES COMING INTO THE COUNTY WON'T EVEN LOOK AT US.
VIRGINIA IS THE HUB TO THE LARGEST CONCENTRATION OF DATA CENTERS IN THE WORLD.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT A MAP, YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTIES AROUND US AND WHAT'S HAPPENING IN DATA CENTERS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, SO THERE'S A PREPONDERANCE OF SOMEBODY LOOKING AT US TO JUST SAY IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
DATA CENTERS ARE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF STRUCTURE AND BUILDING ALONG WITH OTHER TYPES OF MANUFACTURING, HIGH TECH, MANUFACTURING BUILDINGS THAT DON'T FIT WITHIN THIS SPACE.
SO THEREFORE, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THIS AMENDMENT AND APPROVE IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
ANYONE ELSE? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE THE OPEN.
I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND? YEAH.
CAN I JUST TALK? I'M SORRY I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR YOU STEP UP.
UH, SO MY NAME IS CHANCE ROBINSON.
I WORK IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE AND I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH A FEW CONCERNS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TONIGHT.
UH, SPECIFICALLY JUST IN GENERAL, YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE, WE'VE LOST A PROJECT AND, UH, AS MR. CASH SAID HE HAD IT SPOT ON, WE WOULDN'T KNOW THAT.
BUT THE THING IS SITE SELECTION, UH, SITE SELECTORS, THEY DO AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF DUE DILIGENCE.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEY'VE GOT A CHECKLIST COMING INTO LOOKING AT DIFFERENT, UH, DIFFERENT COUNTIES AND COMPETITORS.
AND THE THING IS, THEY'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT GOIN, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE RICHMOND REGION IN GENERAL.
UM, AND SO I THINK WE'VE GOTTA CONSIDER THE COMPETITORS AROUND THE REGION, WHAT THEY OFFER TO THESE SITE SELECTORS.
AND THEY'RE GOING DOWN AND AS SOON AS THEY SEE FAR AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HURT THEIR ABILITY TO DEVELOP ON THAT LAND.
AND ESPECIALLY LOOKING IN THE FUTURE, LET'S SAY IT IS A ADVANCED MANUFACTURING AND THEY WANT TO EXPAND.
UM, IT, IT COULD PREVENT, PREVENT, UH, POTENTIAL EXPANSION.
UM, AND SO I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCES TO SITE SELECTION THAT HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED HERE, UM, WHEN IT COMES TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, REMOVING FAR JUST REMOVES RISK AND IT GIVES MORE, UH, INCENTIVES TO DEVELOPERS TO, TO LOOK AT G AND CONSIDER US WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE RICHMOND REGION IN GENERAL.
UM, SO THAT'S ALL I KINDA WANTED TO ADD TO THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY, WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I MOVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ZOA DASH 2 0 2 4 DASH 0 0 0 0 1 TO REMOVE FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS IN THE BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
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ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.WHAT'S THAT? I SAID YOU NEED A SECOND.
THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A THREE TWO VOTE.
THIS CASE WILL BE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2024, WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MS. PARKER, IS THERE ANY OLD BUSINESS? THERE IS NO OLD BUSINESS.
[8. Old Business - None]
FROM MS. SHERRY.[9. Other Business - Director Update]
WELL, MS. PARKER IS, UH, PULLING UP MY SLIDE.UM, I DON'T THINK THIS WOULD'VE PROBABLY IMPACTED YOUR DECISION FOR THE, UM, FLOOD ZONE, UH, ORDINANCE, AMENDMENT AND MAPS, BUT, UM, THE CURRENT, UH, THE WAY THAT THEY MAKE THE NEW MAPS IS COMPUTER MODELING USING TOPOGRAPHIC MAPS AND LIDAR.
MY MIND WENT LIKE COMPLETELY BLANK.
AND, UM, I WATCHED A VIDEO ON YOUTUBE ABOUT IT EARLIER THIS WEEK JUST SO I COULD UNDERSTAND.
I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED IN MYSELF.
UM, SO FOR MY UPDATE, UM, THE FONT IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT SMALL, UH, BUT UH, IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE AT HOME TO ACTUALLY READ IT IF THEY ARE WATCHING IT.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE OF THE, UM, LAND USE APPLICATION SCHEDULE.
SO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AT THEIR NEXT, UH, PUBLIC HEARING MEETING, UH, ON AUGUST 6TH, WE'LL BE HEARING THE, UM, THE MEYERS REQUEST FOR A, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RENEWAL.
THAT WAS FOR THE ACCESSORY HOUSING, UH, DWELLING UNIT.
UM, THE PC, AS YOU RECALL, YOU ALL RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, UM, THE RODERICK, UH, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND DISTRICT THREE, THAT WAS FOR ANOTHER DETACHED FAMILY HOUSING ACCESSORY UNIT.
UH, YOU ALL RECOMMENDED, UM, APPROVAL ON THAT AS WELL.
UM, SYDNEY AND SYDNEY, WHICH WAS, UH, DEFERRED FROM A PREVIOUS MEETING, NOT LAST, UH, TWO MONTHS AGO.
THIS IS FOR A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, UM, OFF OF, UH, FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.
UM, THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, UM, UH, PRIOR TO THIS COMMISSION, I THINK COMING IN, I THINK THIS WAS A WHILE BACK.
AND THEN TUCKAHOE LANDS, THEY'RE IN DISTRICT FIVE, THEY'RE REQUESTING A PROFFER AMENDMENT, UH, REQUESTING A, UM, TURN LANE WAIVER.
UM, THIS WAS ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED RESULTING IN A DENIAL AS YOU ALL RECALL, FROM LAST MONTH.
UM, FOR NEXT MONTH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON AUGUST 15TH, UH, THERE IS ONE CASE, IT IS IN DISTRICT FIVE.
THIS WOULD BE REMOVING A PROFFERED SETBACK OF 300 FEET TO GO BACK TO THE UNDERLYING BASE, UH, REQUIREMENT OF 100 FEET.
UM, ALSO TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, WE DO HAVE TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS ON THE BOOKS.
UM, THE, UM, DONALDSON APPLICATION IS IN DISTRICT FOUR.
THIS IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY FAMILY HOUSING UNIT.
THAT MEETING WILL BE ON JULY 15TH AT 6:00 PM AND IT WILL BE ON SITE, WHICH IS, UM, 25 70 BRIT DRIVE, HH HUNT IN DISTRICT FOUR.
THEY'RE DOING A PROFFER AMENDMENT TO, UM, REVISE THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR THREE LOTS IN MOSAIC.
UM, THAT WILL BE HELD, THAT COMMUNITY MEETING WILL BE HELD ON AUGUST 5TH AT 6:00 PM AND THIS IS GONNA BE AT, UH, THE CLUBHOUSE IN MOSAIC.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY DIRECTOR'S UPDATE.
SINCE THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS, I'LL ADJOURN THIS MEETING.
[10. Adjournment]
ALL RIGHT.