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CALL THE ORDER OF THE GLAND COUNTY ECONOMIC BILL AUTHORITY MEETING ON JULY 17TH, 2024.
MADAM DIRECTOR AND SECRETARY, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE ALL PRESENT? YOU DO HAVE A FORUM.
UH, AND DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON OPEN UP THE CITIZEN COMMENT? DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE THAT, AND, UH, WITH THIS ALSO IS, UH, FROM DISTRICT FIVE'S SUPERVISOR, MR. JONATHAN LYLE.
UH, MR. LYLE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THE E-D-A-I-I? I WILL.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN, MAYOR BOARD, MADAM SECRETARY CHANCE, UH, I TRY TO REMEMBER YOUR TITLE WITH THE AWARD YOU GOT AT THE CHAMBER.
UH, Y'ALL HAVE, UH, GOT A DRAFT LETTER ON FLOOR AREA RATIO, AND I, I HAVE TAKEN THE POSITION THAT I'M IN FAVOR OF GETTING RID OF REGULATIONS AND ORDINANCES IF IT MAKES SENSE.
AND MY REQUEST HAS BEEN, SHOW ME HOW WE'RE GETTING RID OF THE SUSPENDERS, BUT I'M STILL KEEPING MY BELT.
UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MAKES SENSE.
I HOPE YOU REALIZE I'M A HUGE PROPONENT OF IT.
I HAVE DISQUIET AND CONCERNS THAT GETTING RID OF THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS GOING TO HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE NOBODY TODAY, AFTER THREE REQUESTS MINIMUM, HAS GIVEN ME A CHART SAYING THAT WHEN WE GET RID OF FLUOR AREA RATIO, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE COUNTY FROM HAVING MONSTROSITIES AND BUILDINGS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO REALLY ATTEND TO EITHER FROM BUILDING HEIGHT OR FROM SETBACKS OR FROM AESTHETICS.
IT IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED THROUGH OFFSETTING ORDINANCES, REGULATIONS, OR OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
AT THIS JUNCTURE, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING REMOVING THE FLOOR AREA RATIO BECAUSE I'VE NOT RECEIVED THAT INFORMATION.
WE HAVE TIME BEFORE THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
IF I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FROM THE STAFF, FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, FROM ANYBODY THAT CAN SHOW ME THAT GETTING RID OF THE FLU RATIO, WHICH I'VE BEEN TOLD, AND SCHOOL IS AN EFFECTIVE PLANNING TOOL, I'M ALL FOR IT.
BUT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE TAKING A LEAP OF FAITH THAT SAYS WITHOUT THE FLU RATIO.
TO MY UNDERSTANDING, WE'VE NEVER LOST AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, PROJECT BECAUSE OF IT.
UH, IT HAS SERVED AS WELL IN SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE HAVE SEEN DEVELOPMENTS STAYED IN CONCERT WITH ADJOINING PROPERTIES.
I, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR INFORMATION AND I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AS AN EDA, WHICH YOU ARE SUPPORTING, REMOVING OF IT.
AND SO, I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.
I'M NOT AGAINST ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
I AM CONCERNED THAT WE WOULD HAVE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE SOME OF THE SECURITIES AND SAFEGUARDS AT THE FLORIDA RATIO GIVES US MAY NOT BE THERE.
AND SO I'VE ASKED THAT AGAIN, AT LEAST THREE TIMES, SHOW ME THE TABLE AND IT'S NOT COMING.
AND SO IF I HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE DISCRETION VERSUS VALOR.
AND SO PLEASE BE AWARE, SHOULD I VOTE AGAINST RATIO? IT'S NOT BECAUSE I OPPOSE
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES DON'T OCCUR.
CAN I ASK, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? BECAUSE I, WE'RE GONNA HAVE DISCUSSION LATER ON ABOUT THIS.
SO I, I WANTED, I'M NOT A MEMBER OF THE AUTHORITY.
I WANTED TO SHARE MY COMMENTS.
UH, AND THERE YOU HAVE, AND I THINK THIS WORLD IS AWARE OF MY CONCERNS.
I I'M TRYING TO BE FORTHRIGHT AND CLEAR ON IT.
JUST DON'T MAKE ME TAKE MY BILL.
YOU SUSPENDERS OFF, BECAUSE IT WON'T BE PRETTY.
SO,
AND, UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
HEARING NO OTHER, UH, CITIZENS PRESENT OR ONLINE, I WILL CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD, AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL MINUTES.
IS THERE ANY MOTION FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE MINUTES? SECOND.
IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MINUTES AS STATED FOR FROM OUR LAST MEETING? HEARING NO DISCUSSION? UH, WE'LL MOVE ON TO A VOTE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES, PLEASE STATE AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? SO WE HAVE THAT PASSED.
AND, UH, MR. TREASURER, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE SCHEDULED MATTERS FOR THE TREASURER'S REPORT.
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UM, THERE'S NO, UH, TREASURER'S REPORT.THE, UH, COUNTY IS STILL IN THRO OF YOUR END, UH, CLOSING.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE A REPORT.
THERE'S ONE ITEM OF BUSINESS, HOWEVER, WHICH IS BEFORE YOU.
AND THAT'S THE $292, UH, IN PAYMENT TO A CHRISTIAN AND BARTON.
AND, UH, IF, UH, CAN MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, THAT WE MAKE THAT PAYMENT.
SO, I SO MOVED THAT WE PAY FOR AN OUTSTANDING INVOICE OR $292.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION HEARING? NO DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO, WE HAVE A SECOND.
OH, DID HE SECOND? DID YOU MOVE? I MADE THE MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE STATE AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. TREASURER.
ANY OTHER THING YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT TO? NO, SF UH, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE A TREASURY REPORT FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
OBVIOUSLY, EERP ISN'T UP TO, UH, THE STANDARDS.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE TREASURER? HEARING NONE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS UPDATE.
YES, MR. CHAIRMAN? UM, MY ACTIVE PROJECT LEADS AND UNDER CONSTRUCTION HAS NOT CHANGED SINCE LAST MONTH.
SO WE'RE STILL AT 1.4 BILLION ACTIVE PROJECTS AND LEADS TOGETHER.
IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 50, UM, LEADS AND PROJECTS IN THAT NUMBER.
462 MILLION UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
WHAT WAS THE FIRST FIGURE? 1.4.
I I WAS THINKING CARL SAGAN, I HEARD MILLION
UM, SO SIR, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS FIGURE YET, BUT WITH WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE BOOKS AS FAR AS NEW CONSTRUCTION, WHAT, WHERE WILL THAT LEAVE THE COUNTY WITH THE PERCENTAGE OF BUSINESS VERSUS RESIDENTIAL INCOME? UM, SO DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER YET.
IT HAS TO, BASICALLY WHEN IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, ONCE IT GETS FINALIZED, THE ASSESSOR WILL GO OUT AND ASSESS THE NEW VALUATION ON IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT CHANGES THE ASSESSED VALUATION BETWEEN.
SO WE'RE ROUGHLY AT, UM, LIKE 82%, UM, RESIDENTIAL NOW.
UM, SO BASED ON ASSESSED VALUATION.
SO ONCE THOSE FINALIZED, THEY KIND OF FALL OFF THE ACT OF CONSTRUCTION AND THEN GO UNDER TO THE TAXABLE VALUATIONS.
UM, WE DID A SHORT THREE MONTH MEDIA CAMPAIGN WITH A COMPANY CALLED DO NORTH MEDIA.
UM, IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR US.
I THINK I MENTIONED IT WHEN WE FIRST STARTED.
IT WAS FROM, UM, MARCH 1ST TO JUNE 30, WHERE WE WERE ACTIVELY MARKETING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN GOLAND COUNTIES, BUT NOT TOURISM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, OUR SITES, WHY A COMPANY AND, UH, WORKERS SHOULD MOVE TO GOOCHLAND.
UM, AND SO I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE IMPACT.
IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE HERE, BUT, UM, THIS IS GOOGLE RIGHT CHANCE.
SO WE, WE HAD 131, UM, THOUSAND TOTAL IMPRESSIONS FROM GOOGLE AND FACEBOOK, UH, WHERE THE ADS WERE RUNNING.
WE HAD, UM, TOTAL 2003 17 CLICKS WITH A CLICK THROUGH RATE OF 1.76, WHICH IS, SO AS WE'RE RUNNING ON GOOGLE AND, UH, FACEBOOK.
UM, SO WHEN YOU COME DOWN HERE, THIS BREAKS IT DOWN BETWEEN, UH, THE, THE META IMPRESSIONS BY REGION.
SO WE'RE SEEING PEOPLE FROM PENNSYLVANIA, ALABAMA, TEXAS, GEORGIA, OHIO, FLORIDA, AND NORTH CAROLINA LOOKING, UM, AT THE, AT OUR WEBSITE OR LOOKING AT THE ADS.
UM, WHAT WAS THE BIG BROWN SECTION? UNKNOWN.
SO THEY HAVE THEIR LOCATION TURNED OFF.
UM, THE META AD PERFORMANCE KIND OF PUTS A RATE OF 2.87.
UM, THE GOOGLE AD PERFORMANCE CLICK THROUGH EIGHT WAS 1.24.
AND THEN THE GOOGLE IMPRESSIONS BY DEVICE.
SO, UM, DESKTOP AND THEN TABLET IS THIS SMALLER VERSION, AND THEN THE REST WAS MOBILE.
AND SO THIS WAS SOME OF THE ADS THAT, THAT WE RAN.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE ON A,
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A WEBSITE OR A MOBILE SITE, YOU'LL SEE THESE KIND OF POP UP.UM, AND THEN IF YOU CLICK ON IT, IT TAKES YOU TO OUR WEBSITE.
UM, OR IT TAKES YOU TO OUR VIDEO, WHICH IS THE META.
WE ACTUALLY HAD A VIDEO THAT WAS RUNNING, UM, WITH THEM.
AND THEN IF YOU CLICKED ON A LINK, IT WOULD TAKE YOU TO OUR WEBSITE.
AND SO FROM THAT, SO HERE'S JUST SOME MORE EXAMPLES OF
SO IT HAD LITTLE TAGLINES LIKE GLAND COUNTY SUPPORTS YOUR BUSINESS EVERY STEP OF THE WAY TO ENSURE SUCCESS TOGETHER.
UM, THIS ONE SAYS, DISCOVER WHY GLAND COUNTY VIRGINIA IS AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR YOUR FAMILY OR BUSINESS.
SO THEY JUST ROTATED THOSE ADS.
GLAND COUNTY, VIRGINIA GREW 18% IN THE LAST DECADE.
YOU KNOW, JUST THOSE KIND OF FUN THINGS.
UM, AND THIS LED TO 1800 VIEWS LANDED ON OUR DISCOVER GLAND WEB PAGE THAT WE SET UP SPECIFICALLY.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT'S GOING TO THAT PAGE ARE THESE ADS.
AND THE, UM, YOU MIGHT REMEMBER WE DID, UM, A VIDEO, UM, OF THE VIEWPOINT VIDEO THAT WE DID LAST YEAR.
SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT GO TO THIS ONE PAGE, 1800 VIEWS AND, UH, 1400 NEW USERS ACCESS THAT GAUGE.
NOW, WHETHER IT'S GONNA LEAD TO ANYTHING WE DON'T KNOW, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS DOING IS CREATING AN AWARENESS.
PEOPLE WHO USE, WE'RE TARGETING SITE SELECTORS AND, UM, COMPANIES LOOKING TO RELOCATE.
SO THEY'RE BECOMING MORE BRAND AWARE AS THEY SEE THE NEEDS, AND THEY MIGHT KEEP US IN, IN THEIR MINDS.
SO, UM, WE DECIDED TO RENEW WITH THEM FOR, FOR A FULL YEAR.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE RUNNING, WE'VE GOT SOME REFRESHES GOING ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE ALSO GET A FEATURE CONTENT ARTICLE ON THEIR WEBSITE.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA BE RUNNING THAT FOR A FULL YEAR WITH THIS COMPANY.
AND WE ALSO HAVE AN ARTICLE IN THERE, QUARTER THREE EDITORIAL THIS, THIS YEAR TOO, AS WELL AS PART OF
SO DO WE HAVE A RADIO AD RUNNING NAME OR DID WE WE HAVE A TOURISM SPOTIFY AD THAT'S GONNA BE SOMETHING I KNEW I HEARD SOMETHING.
A TOURISM SPOTIFY AD THAT, UM, WE GOT, UM, THAT WAS PART OF THE VTC GRANT THAT WE RECEIVED FOR OUR COZY COUPLE GETAWAY.
SO IT'S KIND OF, WAIT, WHAT, WHAT IS GOING ON? YEAH, SO YEAH, GOOD.
SO WHAT, HOW MUCH WAS THE GRANT? UM, WHAT DID WE GET? THE GRANT WAS FOR $15,500 WE HAVE TO MATCH.
UH, SO THE MATCH IS STUFF WE SPENT LAST YEAR.
SO THE MATCH CAME FROM PREVIOUS BUDGET.
UM, AND SO IT SHOWED THAT WE SPENT THIS MUCH MONEY.
SO WE'RE GETTING 15 FIVE FOR THIS UPCOMING CAMPAIGN THAT'S ABOUT TO LAUNCH.
UM, THE TOTAL CALL WE ASKED FOR 17 FIVE, WE GOT 15 FIVE.
UM, SO WE'RE COVERING THE 2000 DIFFERENCE.
SO WE CAN DO THE FULL CAMPAIGN AND, UH, IT'S GETTING LAUNCHED IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, AND THEN IT WILL RUN TO THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, AND SO WHAT WE HAVE TO THEN DO A FINAL REPORT AND ALL OF THAT WITHIN 60 DAYS AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND THEN WE SHOULD GET THE 15 FIVE BACK FROM THE STATE FOR THE GRANT.
UM, AN UPDATE, I MENTIONED THIS LAST MONTH, UM, BUT WE, UH, HAD SOME MEMBERS THAT WEREN'T HERE.
WE ARE DOING A KICKOFF WITH THE ARCHITECTS FOR THE LIN, FOR THE OLD LIN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL REUSE.
UM, SO THAT'S ON AUGUST 2ND TO TRY TO DETERMINE WHAT THE BEST POTENTIAL REUSE OF THAT BUILDING COULD BE.
SO LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, UM, MENTION THIS LAST MONTH THAT THE BOARD ADOPTED SOME REDUCED HIGH WATER USAGE FEES.
SO FOR HIGH WATER, UM, FOR, FOR BUSINESSES THAT USE A LOT OF WATER, THEY HAVE A REDUCED RATE OVER 50,500,000 GALLONS.
IF THEY USE OVER 500,000 GALLONS, THE AMOUNT OVER 500,000 IS REDUCED RATE.
SO WHAT THAT DOES IS, UM, ALLOWS A LITTLE BIT, UM, MORE MARKETING ABILITY FOR ME.
SO IF I'M LOOKING FOR A HIGH WATER USER, IEA DATA CENTER
UM, SO, UM, I THINK THAT WAS A GOOD MOVE AND, AND THANKS TO THE BOARD FOR, FOR DOING THAT.
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WAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC UTILITIES AND THE RATE TOOK AFFECT JULY ONE.THERE'S A HANDFUL OF BUSINESSES RIGHT NOW THAT QUALIFIES.
WE SENT 'EM A LETTER AND GOT SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK BACK FROM THE, FROM THE BUSINESSES.
THEY WERE APPRECIATIVE AND SURE, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, WE'RE WORKING ON A WEBSITE REFRESH.
SO THE GOOCHLAND FOR BUSINESS, UH, WEBSITE SITE LAUNCHED, I WANNA SAY IT WAS LIKE 2014 AND HASN'T REALLY HAD A, UH, AESTHETIC REFRESH.
WE'VE OF COURSE KEPT IT UPDATED WITH INFORMATION, BUT THIS IS GONNA BE A, A CLEANUP AND AESTHETIC REFRESH.
UM, AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
UM, WE'RE JUST GONNA TRY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE STREAMLINED, UM, AND A LITTLE BIT MORE MODERN.
SO THAT SHOULD HAPPEN BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AND WITH THE EXISTING BUSINESS OBTAINED, I ASSUME? YEP.
SO, UH, A COUPLE BRE VISIT HIGHLIGHTS IN THE PAST MONTH, UH, HAS A VERY GOOD VISIT AT THE VIRGINIA FARM BUREAU.
UM, WORKED WITH THEM, UM, CONNECTED THEM WITH SOME, SOME WORKFORCE RESOURCES AND ESPECIALLY CONNECTING THEM WITH THE BCU, UH, PROGRAM OF RISK, RISK MANAGEMENT INSURANCE.
UH, HAD A VISIT WITH BANDITS RIDGE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON AN EXPANSION RIGHT NOW.
UM, WE HAVE NEVER REALLY HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM, BUT I'VE CONNECTED 'EM WITH SEVERAL RESOURCES AND THEY'RE ATTENDING A FEW UPCOMING EVENTS, SO VERY EXCITED TO SEE 'EM GET INVOLVED.
UH, GOT A QUICK, GOT A TOUR OF SOUTHVIEW FARM, WHICH IS ALSO ADAMS INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL.
THAT WAS A VERY INTERESTING, SO DID A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT OF TOYS AND WEDDING VENUES THIS, THIS PAST MONTH.
SO, UM, AND THEN OUTSIDE OF TOURS, UH, WE GOT OUT THE VDOT SURVEY FOR THE ASHLAND ROAD, UH, 64 INTERCHANGE.
WE GOT OUT THAT OUT TO ALL THE BUSINESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, GIVE THEIR FEEDBACK TO
UM, AND THEN THE VTC MICRO BUSINESS GRANT OPENS UP, OPENED UP YESTERDAY, SO I MADE SURE ALL THE ELIGIBLE BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY KNEW ABOUT THAT IF THEY WANTED TO APPLY AND THE RESOURCES OUT THERE FOR THEM.
UM, AND THEN THIS AFTERNOON I WAS OUT AND ABOUT STOCKING BY SOME RETAIL SHOPS, JUST CHECKING IN ON THEM, SEEING WHAT THEIR BUSINESS NEEDS ARE, HOW THE SUMMER'S BEEN GOING, JUST GENERAL BUSINESS THIS YEAR.
SO WE ALL APPRECIATE JUST SEEING MY FACE STOPPING BY AND JUST SEEING HOW WE CAN HELP, HOW'S THINGS GOING, UH, FOR THE MOST PART.
UH, JUNE AND JULY ARE SLOWER, UM, RETAIL MONTHS, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, UH, BUSINESS IS GOOD.
THE BIGGEST REQUEST IS JUST THE MORE MARKETING HELP IN AREAS AND LIKE THAT.
SO GONNA DO A COUPLE PROMOTIONAL POSTS AROUND SHOP LOCAL AND, AND ALL OF THAT FOR A FEW SPECIFIC BUSINESSES.
SO THEY WERE REALLY, REALLY ECSTATIC TO SEE ME SEE MY FACE.
SO IT'S ALWAYS NICE WHEN I'M WELCOME SOMEWHERE
WE'VE HAD A VERY GOOD USE SO FAR, KIND OF CONSISTENT SPENDING.
UM, SO AS YOU CAN TELL, THERE'S ABOUT $1,500 LEFT OF THE MONEY THAT WE PUT IN.
SO IT'S 8,500 DISTRIBUTED AND FOR A TOTAL ECONOMIC IMPACT, UH, A LITTLE RIGHT AROUND 82 5.
UM, WHICH IS, IS IS GREAT SO FAR.
IT'S $82,000 SPENT WITHIN THE COUNTY AND, AND CIRCULAR WITHIN THE COUNTY.
UM, ABOUT 67%, TWO THIRDS OF ALL USERS INDICATE THAT THE APP INFLUENCED THEIR, UH, DECISION TO SHOP LOCAL.
UM, AND IT'S BASED 50% OF THE, THE CATEGORIES IS BROKEN DOWN IN FOOD AND DRINK AND THEN 25% IN THE RETAIL, 20% SERVICE.
UM, AND 50% OF OTHERS YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE LEFT OR ON THE RIGHT.
UM, SO IT, IT IS BEEN A VERY GOOD HIT SO FAR.
I TALKED WITH A FEW BUSINESSES TODAY ABOUT IT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT WAY TO JUST SUPPORT THOSE SMALLER BUSINESSES WHERE, UM, TRADITIONAL BRE KIND OF, UH, TOOLS ARE, DON'T REALLY HELP 'EM AS MUCH.
SO IT'S, IT'S A GOOD WAY TO SHOW A COMMITMENT TO THOSE SMALL RETAIL AND SHOPPING BUSINESSES.
UM, AND THEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO NOTE, WE DON'T NEED A VOTE TONIGHT, BUT A CONSENSUS IF THE EDA WOULD LIKE TO FUND THIS AGAIN, IF SO, WE'LL BE BRINGING IT BACK FOR A FORMAL VOTE, PROBABLY IN THE OCTOBER TIMEFRAME SO WE CAN GET IT FULLY FUNDED FOR THE HOLIDAY SHOPPING SEASON.
SO, UM, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAD ANY, WANTED TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT.
UM, BUT LIKE YOU SAID, IT WAS $5,000 OF THE EDA MONEY AND IT'S, I DON'T, I, YOU KNOW, 82,000 HAS BEEN CIRCULATED, MAYBE NOT DIRECTLY FROM THE 5,000,
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BUT IT HAS INFLUENCED 364 PEOPLE TO SIGN UP.AND 66 OF 'EM SAID THAT THE, THE OPEN REWARDS PROGRAM DID INFLUENCE THEM TO SPEND MONEY.
UM, SO THOSE ARE KIND OF GLOBAL MEASUREMENTS.
IS THERE, I I GUESS IT'D BE INTERESTING TO KNOW COMPARED TO OTHER CITY COUNTIES, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW TO MEASURE EXACTLY 'CAUSE THE TOTAL ECONOMIC IMPACT IS PRETTY LARGE.
DOES THE COMPANY HAVE ANY FEEDBACK OR ANY WAY TO MEASURE SUCCESS BASED ON THEIR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCES? YEAH, I CAN REACH OUT TO THEM.
I'M SURE THEY'VE GOT SOME, UH, WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT.
UH, I THINK A GOOD WAY TO THINK ABOUT JUST THE TOTAL ECONOMIC IMPACT IS THAT, UM, PEOPLE GET 5% BACK.
SO NATURALLY AT YOU PUT $5,000 IN IF ALL OF IT IS REDEEMED, THAT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF SPENDING.
UM, WHICH IS IT, IT DOES SEEM LIKE A VERY LARGE RETURN ON INVESTMENT, BUT IT MAKES SENSE WITH THE NUMBERS IN MATH WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT IN THAT PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THE REASON WHY IT'S A LITTLE HIGHER THAN THAT 20 TIMES VALUE IS JUST 'CAUSE WE DID PUT A CAP ON THE AMOUNT OF REWARDS YOU COULD GET WITH JUST ONE PURCHASE.
UM, 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE SOME VERY, UH, SOME BUSINESS ON THERE THAT WE GONNA HAVE A THOUSAND DOLLAR PURCHASES AT.
UM, AND WE JUST, WE TRY TO MAKE THAT MONEY STRETCH A LITTLE FURTHER THROUGHOUT THE PROGRAM.
IS THERE A BREAKDOWN BY THE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES? YEAH.
IF YOU SCROLL DOWN A BIT, WE CAN LOOK, WE CAN GO INDIVIDUAL.
THIS IS THE TOP 10 OH, BELL OFF COURTHOUSE FORAGE.
SO THAT ALSO GIVES US INSIGHT INTO HOW BUSINESSES ARE DOING IN THE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT UTILIZE THE APP.
IF YOU GO TO BUSINESSES AND SCROLL DOWN OR SPONSOR, GO TO SPONSORED COMMUNITY, THAT'S GOOD.
AND THEN SCROLL AND THEN YOU CAN GET A FULL BREAKDOWN OF EVERY BUSINESS AND JUST HOW MANY REWARDS HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED THROUGH THAT BUSINESS.
AND SO, I MEAN, I THINK THE ARGUMENT THAT YES, SOME PEOPLE WOULD'VE SHOPPED THERE ANYWAY, BUT IF 66% IS SAYING, I CAME BACK OR I CHOSE TO SPEND THE MONEY HERE BECAUSE OF THIS APP, I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY, EVEN IF YOU TAKE 66% OF $80,000, IT'S STILL A, A GOOD CHUNK OF RETURN ON INVESTMENT IF YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.
IS THIS OPEN TO US? NO, IT'S BEHIND A LOGIN.
BUT WE CAN, YEAH, I CAN TAKE SCREENSHOTS AND SEND SCREENSHOTS AND SEND THE DATA.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN TAKE THIS PROGRAM AND TARGET THE BUSINESSES THAT DIDN'T GET QUITE AS MUCH MONEY TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE MARKETING SO THEY COULD YEAH, WE COULD DEFINITELY DO THAT.
I, AND I THINK IT'S A COMBINATION OF, OF THE MARKETING AS WELL AS JUST, UM, I THINK WITH THIS DATA I CAN TAKE IT BACK TO THOSE BUSINESSES 'CAUSE THEY MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN DISPLAYING THE CARDS OR THINGS LIKE THAT AND BE LIKE, HEY, LOOK AT ALL THE MONEY SPENT HERE.
LIKE YOU, IF YOU JUST DISPLAY THESE CARDS A LITTLE BIT, MIGHT LET SOME OF YOUR SHOPPERS KNOW WHO ARE ALREADY ON THIS PROGRAM TO UTILIZE IT OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO I THINK HAVING THIS DATA AFTER A YEAR, WE WILL BE ABLE TO KIND OF, UM, REVAMP AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE BUY-IN FROM BUSINESSES WHO WERE HESITANT TO DISPLAY THE CARDS INFORM A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
AND WE'VE GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM BUSINESSES WHO SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY, THEY COME IN BECAUSE OF IT AND THEY'RE EXCITED TO USE THEIR REWARDS.
I HAD TWO CITIZENS STOP BY A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND THEY, THEY JUST STOPPED BY TO SAY, HEY, WE JUST WANTED TO SAY WE'RE USING OUR REWARDS.
AND SO IT WAS, IT WAS A, WHEN DID THIS START? NOVEMBER.
SO WE LAUNCHED IT LAST YEAR FOR THE HOLIDAY SEASON.
AND OF COURSE THERE WAS A BIG, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE SPENDING PER MONTH AT NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, BUT FOR THE MOST PART THIS YEAR WE'VE BEEN AT A CONSISTENT BASIS OF MONTHLY PURCHASES AND IN TOTAL AMOUNT.
SO YOU CAN'T KIND OF SAY, SO YOU THINK IT'S GONNA LAST UNTIL NOVEMBER? UH, AT THE CURRENT RATE,
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UM, LOOKING AT, AT THE MAP AND EVERYTHING.UM, IT'S BEEN ABOUT, I THINK WHAT I BROKE IT DOWN TO IS, IS ABOUT LIKE $500 A MONTH.
AND WHEN I BROKE THAT DOWN BY A MONTH, IT LITERALLY WOULD GO RIGHT TO ABOUT NOVEMBER WHEN WE LAUNCHED IT.
AND SO THE SCHEDULE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, REALLY NEEDS TO, WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION BY OUR MEETING IN OCTOBER AT THE LATEST.
I CHECK IT EVERY DAY JUST TO, I WOULD LOOK AT NUMBERS, SO, UM, I'M SURE YOU YEAH,
SO I, I'LL CHECK IT AND IF IF IT'S LOOKING CLOSER, WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING IT UP.
AND I'M ALSO THINKING JUST THE BASE RENEWAL, YOU KNOW YEAH.
FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE YEAH.
SO I WOULD BE INCLINED TO DO THAT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE MARKETING OF THE PROGRAM JUST TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT IT'S OUT THERE.
AND THE, THE BEST PART IS THAT, UM, THEY DID A LOT OF THE CREATIVE DESIGN AND ALL THAT FOR FREE.
SO I CAN GET THEM TO DESIGN SOME NEW FRESH CREATIVE FOR US TO PUT OUT THERE AND, AND LIKE IT, SO I SEE.
SO ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR EXISTING BUSINESS? UH, JUST A FEW MORE.
WE'VE GOT AN ASHTON ROAD NETWORKING EVENT ON AUGUST 8TH FROM STARTING AT FOUR 30 AT MIDNIGHT BREWERY.
UM, IF YOU CAN COME, PLEASE DO IT.
I'VE BEEN DIRECTLY EMAILING THE BUSINESSES.
I USUALLY SENT THEM A, UH, A MAIL INVITE.
WHO'S THE OLD FASHIONED SNAIL MAIL TO GET REACH SOME OF THEM.
WHAT'S THE DATE ON THAT AGAIN? AUGUST 8TH.
THURSDAY STARTS AT FOUR 30 AT MIDNIGHT BREWERY.
AND, AND THAT'LL BE A SIMILAR FORMAT TO WHAT WE RECENTLY DID.
UM, BUT IT'S JUST FOR KIND OF ASHTON ROAD BUSINESSES.
'CAUSE WE'VE GOT A BIG CONGLOMERATE OVER THERE AND THEN THAT'S PRETTY EASY FOR THEM TO GET TO.
UM, WE HAVE A MAJOR BUSINESS EVENT THAT'S SCHEDULED OCTOBER 24TH AT PARTY WITH THIS YEAR.
WE'VE RUN OUT THE OUTSIDE TENT FOR THAT.
UM, AVERY POINT IS SPONSORING THE EVENT FOR US.
AND, UH, WE LOCKED UP BRAZEN SMOKE TO BE THE CATERER FOR THE EVENT.
AND, UH, SAVE THE DATES WENT OUT A FEW WEEKS AGO.
WE'LL BE SENDING OUT FORMAL INVITES IN THE NEXT MONTH.
IS THAT SIMILAR? IS THAT A COUNTY EVENT? COUNTY.
SIMILAR TO DOVER HALL OF LAST YEAR.
SO, UM, WE ARE INVITING ROUGHLY, WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, DO WE NEED TO THEN POTENTIALLY ALLOCATE FUNDS FOR THAT OR THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF BY THE COUNTY? WHAT, WHAT DATE IS THAT AGAIN? I'M SORRY.
OCTOBER 24TH, WE WERE, WE OBTAINED SPONSORSHIP, UM, LAST YEAR.
DOVER HALL PRETTY MUCH SPONSORED IT AND WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE IT THERE, VERY LOW COST
UM, THIS YEAR, AVERY POINT'S GONNA SPONSOR THE FOOD AND THE BEVERAGE SELECTION.
SO, UM, THE ONLY COST TO THE COUNTY IS THE RENTAL OF THE 10, WHICH IS SMALL.
WHAT TIME IS IT? UH, IT WILL START AROUND FIVE.
WE, I HAVEN'T FINALIZED THE INVITE OR ANYTHING YET, BUT OKAY.
I BELIEVE I SENT OUT A CALENDAR INVITE TO YOU ALL, SO.
AND THAT'S ALSO THE VIP EVENT, SO IT WOULD BE GREAT IF YOU GUYS CAN COME, BUT WE'RE ALSO INVITING THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE SHERIFF.
UM, THE DEPUTY SECRETARY FOR TRADE AND COMMERCE IS COMING.
THEY'VE ALREADY SAID THEY WOULD COME.
UM, THE DEPUTY SECRETARY FOR AGRICULTURE IS COMING.
SO SOME, SOME PEOPLE TO, AND, AND THIS IS FOR OUR LARGER BUSINESSES, UM, MAJOR BUSINESSES.
SO, UM, SO SHORTS,
YOU COULD PROBABLY WEAR SHORTS, YOU COULD PROBABLY WEAR SHORTS.
UM, SO WE STARTED ADVERTISING FOR FARM TOURS.
UM, SO THAT'S STUFF WE'RE GONNA BE RAMPING UP ALL THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
UM, FARM BUREAU ACTUALLY IS SPONSORING, WE'RE GETTING SIGN SIGNS PRINTED FOR THE ENTRANCE OF EACH FARM.
AND FARM BUREAU IS GOING TO PRINT THOSE FOR US.
THEY'RE SPONSORING THAT, SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO, UH, HAVE THEM AS ONBOARD AND SPONSORING THAT EVENT.
UM, WHAT ELSE? THAT WAS BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT LAST YEAR THAT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF, IF THERE WAS SIGNAGE AT THE INSURANCE TO SOME OF THE FARMS SO PEOPLE KNEW LIKE, WHERE DO I NEED TO TURN OR DO I, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, AND FARM BUREAU WAS MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT.
SO THAT WAS, AND THAT'S ON SEPTEMBER 21ST ON SATURDAY.
UM, WE PUSHED THAT BACK A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE LAST YEAR WAS MISERABLY HOT.
UM, WELL LAST WEEK WE HOSTED AN EVENT
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HERE WITH THE GOOSE AND CHAMBER AND BIZ WORKS ON GRANT STRATEGIES WITH THE SBA.UH, ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE OR SO ARE FROM GOOSE AND THE REST ARE SMALL BUSINESS ENTREPRENEURS IN THE RICHMOND REGION.
UM, BIZ WORKS IS SIMILAR TO THE SBDC, THE NON-PROFIT KIND OF BUSINESS INCUBATOR COMPANY OUT OF CHESTERFIELD LOOKING TO TRY TO GROW OUT OF CHESTERFIELD.
SO I'LL BE MEETING WITH THEM SOON TO TALK ABOUT PROGRAMMING AND PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.
UM, SMALL BUSINESS RESOURCE BREAKFAST IS NEXT WEEK ON THE 24TH AT THE RESIDENCE END.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE 25 BUSINESSES FOR THAT.
UM, SO WE HAVE A PANEL OF SMALL BUSINESS RESOURCES FROM THE S-B-D-C-S-B-S-D, UH, VIRGINIA SMALL BUSINESS FINANCING AUTHORITY AND NETWORK TO WORK.
UM, JUST TO TALK ABOUT HOW THEY CAN SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES IN GOON COUNTY.
UM, WE PARTNERED WITH THE CHAMBER ON THAT AND, AND THE RESIDENTS.
IS YOUR ACCOUNT ITEM ON THAT? NO, I HAVEN'T SAID THAT.
SAID THAT, YEAH, RECOGNIZE THAT PICTURE.
AND THEN, UH, GOT SMALL BUSINESS ACCOUNTING WORKSHOP NEXT MONTH ON AUGUST 14TH.
UM, WE'RE GONNA TRY SOMETHING NEW.
I'M WAITING FOR APPROVAL FROM THE SBSD TO DO IT.
I'M GONNA TRY TO LIVE STREAM AND RECORD IT, UM, VIA ZOOM OR TEAMS AND SO THAT WE CAN THEN TAKE THESE WORKSHOPS AND PUT 'EM THIS ON OUR WEBSITE AND KEEP 'EM THERE FOR BUSINESSES.
SO I'M GONNA TRY TO, I TESTED THE TECHNOLOGY THIS WEEK, NOW I'M JUST WAITING FOR THE THUMBS UP FROM THE SVSD AND THEN, UH, TRYING TO WORK WITH THE GOOSE AND GAZETTE TO GET THESE EVENTS IN THE NEWSPAPER SO THAT WE'RE REACHING ANOTHER AUDIENCE AND TRY TO RAISE AWARENESS ON THAT.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR EXISTING BUSINESS RIGHT NOW.
AND TOURISM IS, YEAH, I WANTED TO BRING UP, UM, WE'VE GOT OUR FARM TOUR, SO JUST, UM, THE FARM TOUR PAGE IS UP AND ACTIVE, SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO PROMOTE THIS OUT, BUT, UM, LIKE CHANCE SAID, SIX DIFFERENT FARMS THIS YEAR.
UM, AND IT'S LINKED TO NO WEB APP.
WELL, YOU KNOW, FOR THE MAP, I WHY IT SHOWS A, AN APPLE WATCH IT.
LIKE SOMETIMES IT'S A PHONE, SOMETIMES A TABLET, BUT WHEN IT'S AN APPLE WATCH, I'M LIKE, WHO DOES THAT? YEAH.
BUT YEAH, I THINK THE DISPLAY ON THIS IS, IS MESSING IT UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE LIST OF THE FARMS, SO IT'S JUST ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND IF PEOPLE WANTED A MAP OF THE COUNTY JUST TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT, IT'S RIGHT.
IT'S AN EASY, EASY WAY TO ACCESS IT.
UM, AND THEN BROCHURE, DIGITAL BROCHURE, PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED.
UM, SO THE, UM, SPEAKING OF THE TOURISM WITH, UH, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE GRANT THAT WE GOT, BUT WE SIGNED UP FOR ANOTHER YEAR FOR ADVANCED TRAVEL AND TOURISM.
THEY ARE THE COMPANY THAT DOES OUR PAID SOCIAL MEDIA, UM, ADS FOR TOURISM.
UM, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE WITH OUR LAT LONG ADS DISPLAY, WHICH ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY BASED.
SO WE SET LIKE POLYGONS AROUND CERTAIN AREAS THAT DELIVER ADS TO THE PEOPLE WITH OUR IN THOSE AREAS.
UM, FOR INSTANCE, THEY MIGHT BE SPOTS EDITION AND WE SAY, IF YOU LIKE BEER COME TO GUCCI,
UM, WE ARE ADDING IN THIS SHEER CAKE SEARCH.
AND THEN EXTENDED REACH NETWORK, WHICH IS BASICALLY ADVERTISING THROUGH ALL OF THEIR MEDIA.
IT'S THE ALABAMA MEDIA GROUP, SO EVERY PLACE THAT THEY HAVE ADS, UM, FOR SOCIAL, UH, THEY WILL DISPLAY OUR ADS AS WELL.
SO, UM, IT'S JUST A, A, A LARGER REACH.
UM, WHERE IS THAT? LIKE THEY, IT'S GONNA BE ALL ACROSS? UM, WELL, THEY'RE GONNA BE IN TARGETED AREAS THAT WE HAVE DETERMINED BASED ON OUR RESEARCH THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM IN THROUGH TO GLAND.
SO NORTHERN VIRGINIA, UM, HAMPTON ROADS KIND OF AREA, UM, AND ROANOKE AREA IS, UH, SO THEY USE A, A FIRM, UM, THAT BASICALLY TRACKS CELL PHONE DATA AND SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE FROM AND IF THEY COME INTO THE COUNTY
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AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE COUNTY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.SO YEAH, TURN YOUR LOCATION OFF.
AND UH, SO BASICALLY WE, WE GET A LOT OF VISITORS OR INTEREST FROM THOSE AREAS, SO WE'RE GONNA BE DELIVERING ADS INTO THOSE AREAS TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO COME BACK TO THE COUNTY.
UM, AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA BE UTILIZING BTCS CO-OP PROGRAMS. SO BASICALLY IF WE, UM, TAG VIRGINIA'S FOR LOVERS AND HAVE VIRGINIA'S FOR LOVERS ON OUR ADS, WE GET MONEY BACK FROM THE STATE.
SO THAT HELPS TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COST.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN USE THE VIRGINIA IS FOR FARMER'S MARKET LOVERS NOW.
THAT'S BEEN APPROVED, HAS IT? YEAH.
AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR TOURISM OUT YET.
I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR NUMBERS INCREASED, THOSE COME OUT IN SEPTEMBER FROM BTC, SO WE HAVE TO WAIT A COUPLE MORE MONTHS, UM, TO REALLY SEE WHAT THAT FULL YEAR OF FULL TOURISM MARKETING HAS DONE FOR US.
BUT, UM, FROM THE REPORTS THAT WE RECEIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD GREAT SOCIAL INTERACTION AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO, AND, UM, WE ARE HEARING FROM OUR TOURISM BASED BUSINESSES THAT, THAT IT'S GOOD.
LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GETTING LOTS OF PEOPLE.
UM, THE GOLIN TWO 50, UH, CELEBRATION COMMITTEE.
SO WHAT THAT IS IS THE 250TH, UM, CELEBRATION OF THE, UH, INDEPENDENCE OF THE STATE IN VIRGINIA.
UM, AND ULA COUNTY, UM, IS GEARING UP FOR SOME EVENTS.
SO THEY'RE DOING THEIR FIRST 5K RUN AS A FUNDRAISER ON SEPTEMBER 15TH AT ELK HILL.
IT'S CALLED RUN TO THE REVOLUTION.
UM, AND SO THEY'RE HAVING, UM, A GOOD TIME DOING THAT.
MIDNIGHT BREWERY IS GONNA BE BREWING A GEORGE WASHINGTON QUARTER BEER SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TWO 50 CELEBRATION.
UM, AND THEN ELK ISLAND IS BOTTLING A COMMEMORATIVE WINE AS WELL.
SO PROBABLY BE LIKE THE, UM, A WINE THAT THEY USED TO HAVE, UM, A CLAT KIND OF, UM, WINE, RED TABLE WINE MM-HMM.
UM, AND, UM, I DO KNOW THAT THEY ARE STRUGGLING A LITTLE BIT FOR FUNDING, SO THEY MIGHT COME TO THE EDA AS A WHOLE TO ASK FOR SPONSORSHIP FOR THIS WHOLE PROCESS, WHICH IS GONNA BE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SIX YEAR LONG THING.
SO, UM, THEY, THEY JUST NEED SOME SEED MONEY TO GET THINGS GOING, I THINK.
UM, SO THEY'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING ON WHAT THAT CAN LOOK LIKE.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS A SIX YEAR? THE, SO IT RUNS FROM NOW TO, WELL, 1776.
SO 2026 IS WHEN IT'S GONNA, UM, I GUESS THE, THE LARGE EVENT WILL BE, BUT THEN AT IT GOES, I HAVE A WEBSITE,
OH, SO THAT'S THEIR RUN OF THE REVOLUTION.
SO IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2020.
THAT'S WHERE I'M GETTING THE SIX YEARS, SIX YEARS FROM
SO IT WAS LIKE, THAT'S NOT MAPPING RIGHT, BECAUSE IT'S 2024 ALREADY, RIGHT? UM, YES.
UM, OH, YOU'RE ON THERE, HUH? YES.
YEAH, THAT ORGANIZATION CAME TO ONE OF MY FARMER'S MARKET THEN FARMER'S MARKET DOWNTOWN.
IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING SOME OF THE THINGS YEAH.
SO EACH, EACH LOCALITY CAN CHOOSE TO HAVE A TWO 50 COMMITTEE, UM, AND TO DO THINGS SPECIFICALLY FOR THEIR LOCALITY.
AND THEN THEY CAN PARTNER WITH OTHER LOCALITIES TO DO TRAILS LIKE THEY'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY, UM, PARTNERING WITH HENRICO TWO 50 TO DO THE LAFAYETTE WHERE HE CAME THROUGH GOLAND, UM, COOL.
FROM HENRICO AND GOLAND UP TO JANA.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT DOING THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, TO JUST KIND OF CELEBRATE SOME OF THE REVOLUTIONARY HISTORY THAT HAPPENED IN GOLAND COUNTY AND TELL SOME STORIES THAT POTENTIALLY HAVEN'T BEEN TOLD.
UM, UM, SO DO YOU HAVE AN ORDER OF MAGNITUDE OF WHAT THEY MIGHT BE LOOKING AT SINCE YOU MIGHT HAVE AN INSIDE TRACK
AS I SAID, THEY MIGHT COME TO YOU GUYS IN THE FUTURE.
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HIT HIM.HIT THE GEORGE WASHINGTON QUARTER
UM, AND THAT'S IT FOR TOURISM.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR NEW BUSINESS, EXISTING BUSINESS OR TOURISM? I HAVE A EVENT RELATED QUESTION.
ARE WE DOING ANYTHING IN NATIONAL NIGHT OUT? UH, QUICK QUESTION.
ONE, UM, AND, AND I'M ASSUMING THIS FALLS UNDER EXISTING BUSINESS OR NEW BUSINESS, I'M NOT SURE, UM, THE FACILITY IN, UH, WEST CREEK, THAT IS UNDER CONSIDERATION.
IS THAT ANY MOVEMENT ON THAT? OR IS THAT A CLOSED SESSION MATTER? UM, I HEARD FROM THE BROKER A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT THEY'VE HAD, UM, SOME SIGNIFICANT INTEREST IN IT, BUT THAT WAS THE LAST UPDATE, SO.
I THINK THE OTHER ITEMS, WE CAN WAIT TILL WE, FROM MY STANDPOINT, TALK ABOUT THE WORKSHOP DISCUSSION.
YEAH, LET, LET, LET US MOVE ON.
I DON'T WANT DELAY ANY FURTHER.
UH, NEXT ITEM OF, UH, BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA IS THE FAR LETTER.
SO WE'VE, UH, HAD OBVIOUSLY ONE COMMENT COME IN, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE HAD A ALSO FOIA THAT WAS ASKING ABOUT THIS ALSO.
THEY WANTED A COPY OF THIS DRAFT LETTER AND, UM, IT WAS PROVIDED.
AND, UH, TO PROPERLY ADDRESS THIS, IN ONE SENSE, WE NEED A MOTION, UH, FOR, TO CONSIDER IT EITHER UP OR DOWN.
AND, UH, SO THEREFORE I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION, UM, THIS LETTER.
YOU'RE GONNA ASK YOUR COMMENT OR QUESTIONS? YEAH, WELL, WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION AS SOON AS WE HAVE A MOTION EITHER UP, EITHER TO GO FORWARD WITH A LETTER OR NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH A LETTER TO THE COUNTY BOARD SUPERVISORS.
AND SO, UM, I DON'T FEEL CONFIDENT.
I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO MAKE A MOTION, BUT I, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF FEEL THE SAME WAY.
SO WE CAN HOLD THIS MATTER OFF.
NOW, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THIS IS COMING UP TOMORROW NIGHT AT THE PLANNING
SO COULD WE HAVE A DISCUSSION BEFORE BEFORE WE CAN WE JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DISCUSSION BEFORE WE POTENTIALLY HAVE A MOTION? WELL, TYPICALLY IN A PROPER RUN SYSTEM, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE MOTION EITHER UP OR DOWN, AND THEN HAVE THE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION.
SO YEAH, SINCE WE'RE A COLLEGIATE BODY LIKE WE ARE, AND WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HOLD TWO RULES.
WE CAN HOLD A DISCUSSION WITHOUT, I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S AT THE PREG OF THE BODY, SO YES.
WELL, I MEAN, AGAIN, NORMALLY YOU WOULDN'T DO IT THIS WAY, BUT YEAH, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING IS I THINK THERE'S STILL OR PERHAPS A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT, LIKE, I KNOW, I JUST CAN'T REMEMBER, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, BUT IF YOU COULD REFRESH US ON, UM, WHAT WE DO KNOW, UH, ABOUT THE FLOOR AREA RATIO CONSIDERATIONS AND POTENTIALLY ANY OTHER THINGS THAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT.
AS MR. LYLE BROUGHT UP, I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT MEETING.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS OR WHY IT IS, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KNOW WHY WAS THERE, WHY IS THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE? YEAH.
AND THEN WHAT ARE WE DOING? UM, MR. LYLE IS SAYING, WHAT ARE WE DOING BY, BY MAKING THIS CHANGE? I'M REALLY, I'M, I'M JUST IGNORANT.
IF I COULD ADD IN, UM, I'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHERS, UH, IN THE COUNTY, AND MY CONCLUSION WAS THAT THE FARS IS REDUNDANT, THAT THE COUNTY ALREADY HAS A LOT OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE TO MAKE THIS KIND OF UNNECESSARY.
AND AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT JONATHAN'S POINT, WHAT ARE THOSE EXACTLY.
SO, BUT THAT'S THE WORLD ON THE STREET.
WELL, FOR DB COULD YOU GO OVER THE MEANING WHAT, WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY IS IT ABOUT? SO FLOOR AIR RATIO FAR IS A, IT'S A PLANNING TOOL THAT'S USED TO A, YOU CAN USE IT THREE DIFFERENT WAYS.
ONE, YOU CAN USE IT TO MAKE SURE THAT BUILDINGS, IF YOU'RE IN LIKE A HIGH URBAN DENSITY AREA, SAY CITY OF RICHMOND, NEW YORK CITY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO MAKE SURE THE BUILDINGS, IF YOU HAVE A REAL ESTATE,
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VERY HIGH, EXPENSIVE REAL ESTATE, YOU DON'T WANT SOMEBODY COMING IN AND PUTTING A VERY SMALL REVENUE PRODUCING OR A SMALL BUILDING, UM, ON THAT HIGH END REAL ESTATE.SO YOU WANT A BIG BUILDING TO MATCH ALL THE OTHER BIG BUILDINGS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A LARGE REVENUE PRODUCING, BUILDING GOING ON REAL ESTATE THAT'S IN YOUR PINE, UM, YOU KNOW, AREAS DOWNTOWN, RIGHT? BUT THE RATIO IS BUILDING TO LAND AREA.
IT IS, UM, BUILDING TO LAND AREA.
SO YOU TAKE THE SQUARE FOOT OF THE BUILDING AND THE NUMBER OF STORIES OF THE BUILDING, SO LIKE THE HEIGHT, AND YOU DIVIDE IT BY THE ACREAGE AND IT GIVES YOU A RATIO OF LIKE 0.1, 0.2, 0.9, 2.0, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
SO RIGHT NOW GOLIN HAS, UM, AN FAR IN INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL AND, UM, CERTAIN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS LIKE NPUD.
UM, AND SO, AND IT VARIES BETWEEN THOSE DISTRICTS AT THE MOMENT.
UM, SO THAT'S HOW IT'S USED IN, UM, ONE ASPECT THAT'S NOT HOW HUGELY USES IT.
SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, TO MAKE BIG BUILDINGS.
WE ACTUALLY USE IT TO REGULATE AND TO MAKE, UM, SMALLER.
SO THEY, WE WOULDN'T WANT A LARGE BUILDING MASS.
THIS IS HOW WE CURRENTLY REGULATE IT, A LARGE BUILDING MASS ON A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY.
SO OUR FLOOR AREA RATIOS ARE LOW.
SO OUR, OUR INTENT IS TO, AND WERE BETWEEN LIKE 0.4 TO 0.6.
MORE LAND TO BUILDING SIZE? YES.
AND WHAT ELSE MITIGATES THAT IF WE TOOK THAT AWAY? UM, SO THE THIRD THING THAT YOU CAN USE IT FOR IS, IT COULD BE HELPFUL WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT FUTURE LAND USE PLANNING TO KNOW HOW BIG A BUILDING COULD BE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
WE DON'T, WE HAVE USED, HAVE NOT USED IT IN THAT FORMAT, BUT THAT, THAT IS A WAY THAT YOU CAN USE IT.
SO THE OTHER THINGS THAT HELP REGULATE BUILDING SIZE IN GOLAND COUNTY ARE SETBACKS.
SO IN URBAN COUNTIES, A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T HAVE SETBACKS.
UM, THEY CAN BUILD RIGHT UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, IT, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, BUFFERS BETWEEN CERTAIN ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO IF I WAS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND I WANTED TO BUILD NEXT TO AN AG ZONING, I HAVE TO PROVIDE A BUFFER ON MY PROPERTY, ON MY INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.
SO THAT'S LIMITING MY BUILDING SIZE.
SO IN A LOT OF URBAN DISTRICTS, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT IS UNDERGROUND OR NOT.
UM, IT'S THROUGH A STORM SEWER SYSTEM.
SO THEY DON'T HAVE THESE LARGER DETENTION PONDS THAT WE HAVE IN GOLAND COUNTY WHERE WATER FLOWS INTO IT'S HELD AND THEN RELEASED.
SO THAT ALL ADDS TO, UM, THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY THAT HAS TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE TO FIT THOSE THINGS ON IT.
SO, UM, IT, AGAIN, IT'S BUILDING TO ACREAGE.
AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE CERTAIN SIZE BUILDING, YOU HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT'S REQUIRED TO GO WITH IT.
SO ALL IT IN URBAN ENVIRONMENTS, AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T HAVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ON SITE.
THEY CAN USE SHARED PARKING OR ONE STREET PARKING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SO IN LIN, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THE BUFFER, THE SETBACKS, THE PARKING AND THE STORM WATER, UH, ALREADY CONTRIBUTE TO A FAIRLY LARGE ACREAGE THAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED FOR A BUILDING.
WHAT? UM, FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, WHEN I HAVE A COMPANY THAT'S LOOKING OR A SITE SELECTOR WHO'S LOOKING AT A PIECE OF PROPERTY AND HE SEES THAT THERE'S AN FAR OF 0.4 0.6, HE KNOWS THAT HIS BUILDING CAN ONLY BE SO BIG AND, AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT, OKAY, CAN I FIT MY STORM WATER? CAN I FIT MY PARKING? CAN I FIT MY BUFFERS? CAN I FIT MY, WHATEVER ELSE I MIGHT NEED ON MY SITE? UM, AND STILL GET THE BUILDING SIZE THAT I WANT.
AND IF THE ANSWER IS YES, BUT THEN THEY LOOK AT THE FAR AND THEY GO, WELL WAIT A MINUTE, MY BUILDING CAN'T BE THAT BIG.
CAN IF THERE BE WAIVED BY THE PENNY COMMISSION? YEAH.
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YOUR EXCEPTIONS NO, WITH THE FAR, NOT CURRENTLY FOR THE EXCEPTIONS VERSUS, VERSUS WITHOUT THE FAR THEN THE COUNTY COULD HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE LEEWAY, RIGHT.AND MAKING THE DECISIONS, UM, LIKE ON A CASE IN THE ELABORATE COUNTY, THE COUNTY COURT FLEXIBILITY VERSUS THE FAR ZERO EXCEPTIONS.
AND SO THEY MIGHT, A SITE SELECTOR MIGHT LOOK AT IT AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, IT MIGHT WORK FOR MY, FOR MY ONE BUILDING NOW, BUT WHAT IF I NEED TO EXPAND AND WHAT IF I HAVE FUTURE PLANS FOR, FOR THIS PROPERTY? I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO USE THE PROPERTY FOR FUTURE EXPANSIONS.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT WHAT I'M CONCERNED WITH.
UM, AND SO THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER THOUGHT IS IF, IF WE MOVE IT TO, IF WE DON'T REMOVE IT AND WE MOVE IT TO LIKE AN EXCEPTION, SO WHERE THEY HAVE TO COME TO THE BOARD AND ASK FOR AN EXCEPTION, YOU'RE OPENING UP RISK TO A PROJECT.
AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW.
NO, WE'RE, WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
IT'S BETWEEN ANYWHERE BETWEEN 0.4 AND 0.6.
AND IF THEY LOOK AT IT AND THEY SAY, MY BUILDING, IT NEEDS TO BE BIGGER THAN A 0.4 OR 0.6 TO MAKE IT WORK, OR MY FUTURE EXPANSION PLANS ARE GONNA PUT ME OVER THE FARI CAN'T BUILD HERE.
HAS THAT HAPPENED? UM, IT HAS NOT HAPPENED THAT I KNOW ABOUT.
HOWEVER, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ARE GETTING BIGGER.
IF WE LOOK AT SOMETHING THE SIZE OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WITH PROJECT ROCKY, NOW THAT WAS ON A SIGNIFICANT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND IT, YOU KNOW, COULD MEET THE FAR IF THEY WERE LOOKING TO GO ON A SMALLER PIECE OF PROPERTY, NO, IT WOULDN'T HAVE MET BECAUSE OF THE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITH THE ROBOTICS DISTRIBUTION.
THEY'RE JUST REALLY BIG BUILDINGS, ADVANCED MANUFACTURING, THEY'RE REALLY BIG BUILDINGS, DATA CENTERS.
WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY DO LIKE SOME BUFFERS, BUT IF YOU LOOK IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA, THEY'RE PUTTING THOSE THINGS ON LIKE POSTAGE STAMP PARCELS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE UH, UH, ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS AT THE MOMENT AND
SO IF YOU LOOK IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA, WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE NOW GETTING INTO LIKE TWO AND THREE STORY DATA CENTER SITES.
SO, AND THEY DO THEY HAVE FARMS IN ARLINGTON, FAIRFAX, UM, ARE THEY ELIMINATED THEM? HOW DO THEY DEAL WITH THAT? I DON'T THINK THAT THEY DO.
AND IF THEY DO, THEN IT'S THE OPPOSITE AND THEY WANT BIGGER BUILDINGS.
SO WHAT I'M GATHERING FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, IS THAT PROSPECTIVE COMPANIES THAT ARE LOOKING TO COME TO GLAND, THEY SEE THAT FAR AND THEY DON'T EVEN GIVE US THE TIME OF DAY.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE LOST ANY BECAUSE THEY, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT, RIGHT? THEY WILL.
I HAVEN'T HAD ANYBODY COME TO ME AND, AND SAY, I THIS ISN'T GONNA WORK BECAUSE OF YOUR FAR, BUT I ALSO DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, THAT HASN'T EVEN CONTACTED US.
BUT THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE FIR IS A FAIL SAFE TO THOSE OTHER LIKE BUFFER OR PARKING LOT OR STORM WATER.
UM, TO JUST REASSURE THAT WE KEEP A SMALLER OKAY.
BUT MY QUESTION THEN IS WHY DO WE WANNA NOT DEVELOP OUR INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONE SITES? WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO DO THIS IN OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING.
CAN WE MAKE IT SO THAT IT IS SUPER LIMITED AND OR BY EXCEPTION? WELL, IT WOULD BE SUPER LIMITED 'CAUSE IT'S ONLY APPLIES TO INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AG AND RESIDENTIAL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
COULD WE LIMIT EVEN FURTHER TO WHERE IT'S JUST THOSE ZONINGS WITHIN GROWTH OR DESIGNATED GROWTH ZONES? POTENTIALLY THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO CONSIDER, RIGHT? IT WOULD BE, BUT UM, IT'S, UM, SO I GUESS TO PICK UP WHERE I MADE THAT POINT IS WE NEED TO UTILIZE OUR LAND AND OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS TO THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE POSSIBLE.
AND IF WE'RE NOT ALLOWING, IF WE'RE PUTTING RESTRICTIONS ON BEING ABLE TO USE THAT LAND, I JUST DON'T THINK IT MAKES GOOD ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SENSE.
SO THE EXCEPTION GOING TO THE BOARD
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TO REQUEST AN EXCEPTION ADDS TIME AND RISK TO A PROJECT.AND IT WOULD BE BETTER TO ELIMINATE IT SO THAT THERE IS NO TIME AND RISK TO THE PROJECT.
UM, SO THAT'S LIKE MY LEAST FAILURE OPTION.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DISCRETION DOES THE PLANNING COM IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEFT WITH? SO THIS IS A ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD AS TO WHETHER FAR SHOULD BE REMOVED KEPT, OR MAYBE THERE'S SOME RECOMMENDATION THAT COMES OUT OF IT.
MAYBE IT'S ONLY IN INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL IN OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH THEORY.
SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES HAVE SOME DISCRETION TO MAKE RECOMMENDATION AS TO WHAT THE ORDINANCE SHOULD BE, UH, RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD.
THE BOARD HAS THE ULTIMATE SAY AS TO WHETHER IT GETS REMOVED OR KEPT OR SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
BUT THEY COULD STILL, THE ZONING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD COULD STILL RECOMMEND A WIDE RANGE OF FACILITIES TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T LIMIT THEIR DISCRETION IN ANY WAY.
I'M NOT A MEMBER, BUT I CAN ADD SOME AMPLIFICATION MAYBE TO THAT.
UH, WITH AND SARAH'S SPOT ON FAR, IT'S NOT USER FRIENDLY.
I, I WOULD SAY, AND THE CATALYST FOR IT ACTUALLY WAS FOR THE EXTRA ATTIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S GOING ON NEXT TO PARKSIDE VILLAGE OUT ON H ROAD WHERE MR. BROWNING ORIGINALLY CAME IN AND WAS APPROVED THAT HE MET THE BAR.
BUT EXTRA ATTIC REQUIRES THAT THEY OWN THEIR OWN LAND, THEY OWN LEASE, WHICH REQUIRED A PIECE OF THAT PARCEL WHICH HAD BEEN APPROVED TO BE SEGMENTED OUT OR CUT OUT, IN WHICH CASE IT APPEARED TO DEAL, I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY NO LONGER MET FAR.
AND SO THEIR DEVELOPER OR THEIR ATTORNEY CAME IN AND SAID, WELL, FIX THIS.
AND, AND THERE WAS HUGE RETICENCE TO DOING THAT BECAUSE YOU, YOU WERE BEING ASKED TO CHANGE AN ENTIRE COUNTYWIDE ORDINANCE FIX.
AND I'LL BE HONESTLY ONE, ONE DEVELOPERS LACK OF DUE DILIGENCE.
HE OR SHE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN AHEAD OF TIME THAT EXTRA ADDING WANTED TO OWN THAT LAND AND NEEDED TO MAKE CERTAIN CHANGES.
AND THERE WAS RETICENCE ON DEVELOPER'S PART FROM GIVING UP SOME OF HIS BUFFER OR SOME OF HIS PICNIC AREA FOR HIS EMPLOYEES.
THERE WAS NOT AN INTEREST IN CHANGING THE CONFIGURATION OF THEIR BUILDINGS TO ACCOMMODATE FAR.
UH, AND SO THE RESOLUTION WAS THAT WE WOULD ALLOW FAR BASED ON A PROJECT APPROVAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THEN MEANT IF THEY WERE ABLE TO SEGMENT OUT THE LAND FOR EXTRA ADDED LIGHT GOES ON.
'CAUSE THE APPROVAL THEN WAS ON A PROJECT BASIS WITH SOME SUBDIVISIONS.
SOME OF THE CHALLENGES ON BUFFERS IS WHEN YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL UP AGAINST MID RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S ONLY A FIVE FOOT BUFFER REQUIREMENT.
AND SO THE BUFFER, IF YOU GET TWO COMMERCIALS NEXT TO EACH OTHER, NOW YOU'VE GOT A 10 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN TWO POTENTIALLY LARGE DEVELOPMENTS THERE.
AND AGAIN, MY INTEREST IS GET RID OF IT IF I KNOW I'M NOT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES CREATING AN ISSUE.
FIRE RESCUE HAS ALSO HAD ISSUES AND I THINK PROJECT ROCKY WAS ACTUALLY AN ISSUE WHERE THAT'S A PRETTY TALL BUILDING AND BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF ANY UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT IF A FIRE OCCURS.
AND SO CHIEF FERGUSON IS ADVISED WE BUY ALL KINDS OF FIRE AND FIGHTING EQUIPMENT, BUT IT AIN'T FREE.
AND THE FOURTH BULLET IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, AND I'VE MEMORIZED THIS TO ENSURE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT EXCEED ACCOUNT'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND FIRE RESCUES IN ESSENTIAL SERVICE.
SO I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE US IN ALL CANDOR.
AND I LOVE THE IDEA OF SEVERAL DATA CENTERS COMING TO THE COUNTY THAT WE FIND OURSELVES NOW OCCURRING MILLIONS DOLLARS IN ADDITIONAL FIRE RESCUE EQUIPMENT TO ACCOMMODATE, WHICH I THINK THAT VACCINES WILL PAY FOR IT.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND CAUSE OF EFFECT, BUT I SIMPLY HAVE BEEN ASKING STAFF, SHALL WE WEAR BUILDING HEIGHT, BUFFER SETBACK, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT? IF THERE ARE SAFEGUARDS THERE, I'M GOOD WITH ADJUSTING OR ELIMINATING FARMING.
I GUESS I HAVE A MAN OF LIMITED INFLUENCE BECAUSE I'VE NOT HAD AN ANSWER TO MY QUESTIONS.
MR. BUILDING HEIGHT CONSTRUCTION? YES.
MR. LAW DID FORGET TO BUILDING HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.
SO THERE ARE BUILDING HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS
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AND INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIALS.SO THEY CAN'T BUILD A IN 200 STORY BUILDING.
GOING THAT IF YOU HAVE SUB, IF YOU HAVE, UH, I THINK THERE'S A PROPERTY THAT NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THAT MAY HAVE SUBTER UH, FACILITIES OUT THERE ON WEST STREET, BUT
SO, SO THEY CAN'T GO DOWN AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF THEIR BAR.
UM, TO, I'VE HEARD TO, UH, MR. LOW'S POINT, UM,
THERE'S, UM, LARGE SUPPRESSION SYSTEMS THAT ARE CAREFULLY REVIEWED DURING BUILDING PERMIT BY THE FIRE MARSHAL AND BY OUR COMMERCIAL, UH, FIRE CLAIMS REVIEWER.
SO WE WOULD NEVER APPROVE A BUILDING THAT'S NOT ABLE TO BE SERVICED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND EVEN IF WE ELIMINATE FIRE, EVEN IF YEAH, ELIMINATED FAR, IT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT A, UM, A CONCERN I THINK THAT, UM, WE HAVE FROM A FIRE PERSPECTIVE, UM, AT LEAST I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT.
SO, UH, WE WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM WHEN WE'RE DOING PLAN REVIEW FROM THE FIRE SUPPRESSION STANDPOINT AND THERE'S ALL SORTS OF UNIQUE SYSTEMS THEY HAVE OUT THERE WHERE THEY CAN PUT FIRE SUPPRESSION ON SITE AND KEEP IT, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE AND PUMPED AND READY AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN GET SO MANY FEET ACCESS, AERIAL ACCESS AND ALL THAT OTHER GOOD STUFF.
SO YOU'RE SAYING WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE STANDARDS IN PLACE? THOSE STANDARDS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
BUT THAT DOESN'T INDICATE THE NEED FOR SPECIAL EQUIPMENT JUST DEPENDING ON SITUATION UNFORTUNATELY.
UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE SPECIAL EQUIPMENT THAT WE NEED TO SERVICE THE, THE BUILDINGS AND WE, THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE HAVE WILL SERVICE SOMETHING AS LARGE AS, UH, BOX DISTRIBUTION THINK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, I APPRECIATE THE TRESPASS ON COMMENTS.
AGAIN, WE'RE A COLLEGIATE BODY.
WE'RE, WE'RE BREAKING INTO PROCEDURE BY JUST HAVING A DISCUSSION BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THE, THE VOTE.
BUT I ATTENDED THE SAME GATHERING THAT YOU DID AND I CAME AWAY WITH AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT VIEW IN, IN LOOKING AT THE, UH, THE WHOLE CONCEPT.
UH, BY THE WAY, LOOKING, LET ME ASK YOU, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS GETTING TOO, TOO DEEP INTO COUNTY STAFF, BUT DO YOU KNOW WHY THERE HASN'T BEEN A DIRECT RESPONSE? BECAUSE I I I KNOW IT'S NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, I THINK.
UM, WELL I THINK THEY'RE, UM, HAVE PUTTING TOGETHER A PRESENTATION.
WELL I KNOW THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A PRESENTATION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TOMORROW NIGHT THAT HAS SOME GRAPHICS THAT, UM, ARE IN IT THAT SHOW LIKE A BUILDING AND SHOW LIKE WHERE STORM WATER AND SHOW SETBACKS AND, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO VISUALIZE 'CAUSE UM, SOME, SOME THINGS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF, I KNOW THEY HAVE SOME GRAPHICS IN THAT POWERPOINT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE LIKE, SPECIFIC EXAM HOLES LIKE, LIKE TOMORROW CARPENTER AT THAT TIME.
YEAH, WELL THEY MIGHT BE ABLE.
UM, SO I KNOW THEY WERE PUTTING THAT TOGETHER FOR THE LANGUAGE.
YEAH, I ASKED THAT ONLY, YOU KNOW, FROM AN INFORMATION STANDPOINT TO UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE MY TAKEAWAY IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT IN, IN ALL HONORABLE INTENTIONS THAT THIS IS A, A STRICTLY A REDUNDANT, UH, TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE AND DOES LIMIT WHAT WE CAN DO JUST BY THE FACT THAT IT IS SO RESTRICTIVE.
YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRE SUPPRESSION, WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT IS, IS CURRENTLY THERE.
AND I DO SEE THIS AS A POTENTIAL IMPEDIMENT TO TECHNOLOGY, BRINGING TECHNOLOGY IN.
I I JUST DON'T SEE HOW LIKE YEAH, YOU DON'T KNOW WHO HAS LOOKED AND JUST WALKED ON BY AND WHAT OUR FUNCTION IS AS THE EEA.
IT'S, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND WHAT OUR OUR, UM, YOU KNOW, MOTIVES ARE AS WELL.
AND LET, LET ME ASK A VERY POINTED QUESTION 'CAUSE I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS.
WHO AROUND US HAS FAR, OH, UM, NO
SO ENRICO DOESN'T HAVE FIRE, PALLO DOESN'T HAVE FIRE.
LOUISA DOESN'T HAVE, NOBODY ELSE HAS THIS IN OUR AREA.
I BELIEVE CHESTERFIELD HAS A ELEMENT OF IT.
UM, I THINK IT'S ONLY FOR, UH, LIKE USE OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
IT IS, AGAIN, IT IS A TOOL AND, AND AND IT HAS A PURPOSE.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, THEY'RE GOOD WITH IT.
I JUST, IT'S LIKE, HEY, I'M A MUSHROOM
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EXPECT THE ANSWERS FROM STAFF.BUT, UM, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE, BESIDES A GRAPHIC, WHAT ELSE WOULD BE HELPFUL IN FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO, I, I, I, I LEARNED VISUALLY, ODDLY, AND SENSORY.
I MEAN, IF I COULD JUST SEE, ALRIGHT, BUILDING HEIGHT ADDRESSES THIS, BUFFER ADDRESSES THIS SETBACK, ADDRESSES THIS STORM WATER MANAGEMENT ADDRESSES THIS, IT, IT, AND IT ALSO, AND I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT.
I JUST HEARD THE EDH CHARTER IS TO BRING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE, BUT NOT JUST ANY TYPE.
I MEAN, THERE IS A COMMUNITY SENSE THAT EVERYBODY DOESN'T WANT TO SEE A, UH, METAL SMELTING OPERATION HERE.
UH, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR SOME AREAS.
UH, BUT I PROMISE YOU FOLKS THAT I HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATION WITH WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE CERTAIN TYPES OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND FAR OR OTHER ORDINANCES PROBABLY DO DISTURB THAT.
UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF A MITSUBISHI MANUFACTURING PLANT REALLY WOULD FIT EVERYBODY'S IDEA OF A GREAT OPERATION WEST STREET PLACE.
BUT COULD WE, AGAIN, I'M UNDULY TRESPASSING ON THE AUTHORITY.
COULD WE, COULD WE RECOMMEND A WOULD HIGHER OR LOWER BAR? IT WOULD BE A HIGHER, A HIGHER CAR.
WE RECOMMEND A HIGHER BAR THAT STILL ACTED AS A FAIL SAFE AGAINST A LARGE, SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD WANT ANYWAYS, BUT ALLOW DATA CENTERS OR WHATEVER ELSE THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY BE LOOKING AT US.
I WOULD SAY, ISN'T THAT THE FUNCTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION? YEAH.
AND I THINK THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE THE, IF YOU COULD GET ANSWERS FROM THEM, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT STACKS IS, UM, YEAH.
GONNA BE REVIEWING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS, IS MAYBE INCREASING IT INSTEAD OF GETTING RID OF IT.
BUT HONESTLY, IF YOU'RE INCREASING IT, YOU'RE GONNA NEED, YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT FAIRLY, FAIRLY HIGH IN THAT SAME VEIN.
THEN IF IT'S OVERSTEPPING FOR US TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, WE SHOULD SEND A LETTER AT ALL.
BUT THE CHANGING WHAT'S EXISTING, THE EXISTING BAR WOULD PROBABLY OVER STEP.
BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALREADY HAS SET LIMITATIONS ON OFFSET BUFFERS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHICH WE'VE ALREADY BROUGHT UP.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALREADY HAS THESE GUIDELINES, RIGHT? THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING THE, THE PLANNING THE LINE THE SAME OR, YEAH.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS THE ABILITY TO MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD TO CHANGE ORDINANCES.
UM, BUT I WAS SAYING IN OUR, IF WE WERE GONNA SEND A LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION, OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO CHANGE THE FAR AS OPPOSED TO REMOVE IT.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S OVERSTEPPING THEN SENDING A LETTER RECOMMENDED REMOVING IT, OVERSTEPPING AS WELL.
IT, IT IS WHAT I'VE SAID, PARDON ME FOR THIS FAMILY, UM, I'M GOING BACK TO THE REDUNDANCY.
THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALREADY HAS A ROLE TO FILL, AND I THINK THIS IS LIKE KIND OF CUTTING THE PLANNING COMMISSION OUT.
IF WE SAY EXPAND THE FAR, THEN THAT MAY VIOLATE WHAT THE, OR OVERRIDE WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ALREADY HAS IN PLACE WITH THE WATER.
THE, UH, JUST THE SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THEY'VE ALREADY DONE AND WHAT EVERY OTHER COUNTY SURROUNDING US SEEMS TO BE DOING WITHOUT HARM, I DON'T THINK IT'S AGAINST OUR COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING THAT WOULD ELIMINATE AN IMPEDIMENT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TO IMPROVE AND PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH THIS COUNTY.
SO IT'S TOUGH FOR ME TO SAY KEEP FAR.
AND, AND THAT'S A VERY LEGITIMATE CONCEPT, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO WE COME IN FROM THE STANDPOINT OF ADVOCATING CHANGE AND, AND SO FORTH.
AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVIST IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO, IT, IT, IT'S NOT OUTSIDE OUR CHARTER.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE, AT THE CODE OF VIRGINIA, FROM THE WAY I INTERPRET IT, I DON'T KNOW HOW EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MISSION TO, TO DO SO.
SO THIS IS, UM, SOMEWHAT A CONTINUATION OF SOME OTHER THINGS WE'VE DONE, WHETHER WHEN ORIGINALLY WE, WE DIDN'T DO PROJECT ROCKS.
WE YEAH, WE DID, WE DID A LETTER ON ROCKY.
I'M, I WAS SO TIRED THAT TIME.
UM, AND THEN, UH, EFFECTIVE GENTLEMAN HERE IN PRESENT SPOKE, UH, VERY ULTIMATELY ABOUT THAT.
AND WE'VE ALSO WITH THE, UH, MEAT PROCESSING FACILITY AND OTHER THINGS.
SO WE'VE KIND OF TAKEN THAT AS A MISSION
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TO HELP THE BOARD HAVE A PERSPECTIVE OF AT LEAST WHAT OUR CONSIDERATIONS ARE.AND SO I COME ALL THE WAY BACK AROUND TO THE FACT THAT I SEE THIS FAR AS LIMITING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GET INTO CERTAIN AREAS.
AND I, I'M A, I PERSONALLY AM A LITTLE, UM, HESITANT TO, TO REALLY MODIFY IT IN ANY FORM OR FASHION.
I, I'D RATHER JUST GET RID OF IT.
'CAUSE I WANT TO SEE DATA CENTERS HERE.
I WANNA SEE, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE WE'RE FALLING BEHIND ON, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, OUR, LIKE LISA WAS ASKING ABOUT OUR RATIO, UH, WE'RE SLIPPING BACKWARDS IN SOME OF THE RECENT DEVELOPMENT IN COUNTY THAT IS CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL IS REALLY RESIDENTIAL TO ME.
AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, FIRE AND RESCUE LAW ENFORCEMENT MIGHT NOT BE PUTTING KIDS IN SCHOOLS, WHICH IS A, A REAL BURDEN ON OUR COUNTY BUDGET.
BUT I SEE IT AS SOMETHING THAT'S STILL GONNA BE ONEROUS OVER THE TOP OF A STANDARD INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL, UH, OPPORTUNITY.
AND, AND I DO SEE, WHEN I LOOK AT THE SETBACKS, WHEN I LOOK AT BUILDING HIGH CLOUD, I LOOK AT ANYTHING DEALING WITH SAFETY, WHETHER IT BE LAW ENFORCEMENT OR EMT OR, UH, FIRE AND RESCUE IN PARTICULAR.
UH, A LITTLE BIT OF REDUNDANCY THERE THAT I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THIS AS TAKING AWAY FROM ANYTHING THAT COUNTY ALREADY HAS ON BOOKS BE ABLE TO DO.
I, I, AGAIN, PART OF THIS RECOMMENDATION IS, IS RECOMMENDATION.
IT'S JUST ON BEHALF OF THE, AND, AND, AND SUPPORTING BUSINESS, I GUESS I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS.
LIKE IF I HAD THAT BRACKET WHERE I COULD SEE WHAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, OKAY.
I WOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AM I SAYING THAT I'M OKAY WITH THERE BEING A 600 ACRE MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE COUNTY? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR.
NO, BUT IT COMES DOWN TO ONE, WE, WE, I'M FOR RECOMMENDING THIS AND I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD EVEN SAY THAT, BUT, UH, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF THIS DOESN'T OVERSTEP THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DECISIONS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISIONS.
JUST SAYING I FEEL COMFORTABLE.
DO WE KNOW WHY FAR WAS PUT IN PLACE IN GOLAND COUNTY IN THE FIRST PLACE? SO THEY'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH ON IT.
LEMME SEE IF I CAN, IF I CAN REMEMBER.
SO IF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER BACK IN 2006 WHEN THEY DID THE ENTIRE ZONING REWRITE, UM, IT WAS PUT IN INDUSTRIAL BACK IN 2006.
IT WAS EXISTING IN COMMERCIAL, BUT THEY INCREASED IT, IT WAS LIKE, AND I, I MIGHT GET THESE NUMBERS WRONG, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 0.3 IN COMMERCIAL AND THEY WENT UP TO LIKE 0.5 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO IT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE IN COMMERCIAL.
IT WAS ADDED IN 2006 IN INDUSTRIAL AND THEN, UM, WAS INCREASED INCREMENTALLY FROM 2006 TILL NOW.
I THINK IN RESPONSE TO THE, THE BUILDINGS ARE GETTING LARGER, THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S TAX REVENUE, PRODUCING EQUIPMENT,
SO THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES ARE GETTING LARGER.
SO I THINK THAT THAT WAS JUST A, A, YOU KNOW, UH, RESULTS OF THE NEEDS OF THE INDUSTRIAL COMMUNITY NEEDING BIGGER BUILDINGS.
UM, SO, SO, BUT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN ALWAYS NIX A, UH, DEVELOPMENT BASED ON SOME OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY OFFER.
IF A PROJECT WERE TO COME IN AND HAD TO BE REZONED OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UM, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PRESENT A CONCEPTUAL PLAN.
UM, UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT, AT THAT POINT THEY'LL PROBABLY WON'T HAVE GOTTEN TO THE ENGINEERING PARTICULARLY, UM, ABOUT LIKE WHERE ALL THE ITEMS ARE GONNA GO ON SITE.
BUT THEY'LL, THEY'LL KNOW ENOUGH TO KNOW WHETHER THEY NEED FAR AT THAT TIME, IF THEY WERE COMING IN FOR A RESETTING.
SO, BUT IF FIR WEREN'T PART OF THE EQUATION, KNOWING ALL OF THOSE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO ADHERE TO, YEAH.
THEY COULD MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THAT.
IF, IF ANYTHING THEY DON'T, IT DOESN'T REALLY, IT REALLY, IT'S MORE LIKE WHEN IT COMES IN FOR SITE PLAN REVIEW, FROM A STAFF'S
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PERSPECTIVE, THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE BUILDING MEETS FAR.THE PLANNING COMMISSION RIGHT NOW IS LOOKING AT AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO REMOVE IT.
SO EACH TIME THAT THERE'S AN ORDINANCE, AMENDMENT, ORDINANCE, UM, ZONING OR SUBDIVISION, IT'S GOTTA GO TO FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I, I, MY POINT IS THAT THEY STILL HAVE OTHER, UM, RESOURCES THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE YES.
THAT CAN MITIGATE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MIGHT BE BROUGHT UP WITH A, AN ISSUE WITH FAR, IF FAR WAS REMOVED, THEY STILL HAVE OTHER TOOLS THAT THEY CAN USE TO LIMIT OR MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS SO THEY DON'T PASS THE FAR THE BUILDING CAN STILL BE APPROVED, BUT IT BECOMES A NIGHTMARE FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE BASICALLY GONNA TRY TO SELL THIS SITE AND THEY'RE SAYING, WHAT ABOUT THIS BARN THEY HIRE? AND SO IT, IT REALLY IS, IT IS A, FROM STANDPOINT OF EDA, IT'S AN EXPEDITING UH, YES.
IT'S GETTING RID OF REGULATION, REDUNDANT REGULATION.
UM, THAT COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT FUTURE REVENUE PRODUCING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
AND WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD GET TO ELIMINATING SOMETHING THAT'S UNDESIRABLE OR, YOU KNOW.
IS YOUR FIRST BIG KIND OF THRESHOLD.
SO IF AN ARMS MELTING PLANT WANTED TO COME TO THE COUNTY, IT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED 'CAUSE IT'S NOT ALLOWED BY ZONING.
UM, SO IT, OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME IN AND ASK THE BOARD TO ADD IT AND IT WOULD BE A PUBLIC PROCESS.
SEE? UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IT, SO USES ARE REGULATED BY SONY AND SO IF IT'S NOT ALLOWED, IT'S NOT ALLOWED.
BUT AGAIN, NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE, BUT YOU WANT TO GO TO, IBM WANTS PUT THEIR EXECUTIVE OFFICE HERE AND SAY THERE'S NO FAR AND WE'RE WE'RE GOOD.
SO I COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANNA PUT YOUR FOUR STORY OFFICE BUILDING ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT NOT BEING THE, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE ALL THOSE OTHER, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE PARKING, THE BUFFERS AND THE PARKING AND THE STORM WATER.
THEY'RE PARKING, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE STORM WATER, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, HEIGHT RESTRICTION.
IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE, UM, THEY WOULD MEET THE FAR ANYWAY.
IT PROBABLY WOULD MEET THE FAR BUT ON THE OFF CHANCE THAT THE PROPERTY'S SMALL.
I DON'T WANT FAR BEING THE ONE THING THAT
SO PLANNING COMMISSION, IS THIS CORRECT? THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS REQUESTING THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REMOVE FAR THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS EVALUATING REVIEW.
WHETHER OR REVIEW THE BRANCH, YES.
THERE, THERE ARE STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT FAR BE REMOVED.
SO IT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD BY, UM, MR. LAU WAS SAYING BY THE DEVELOPER.
AND, UM, AT THE TIME IT WAS, IT WAS LIKE, WHY, WHY ARE WE GONNA CHANGE THE ORDINANCE FOR ONE DEVELOPER STAFF HAD THE TIME TO DIGEST THAT FEEDBACK AND SAY ACTUALLY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO REMOVE IT.
AND SO WE, WE, WE BROUGHT IT BACK, UM, AS A STAFF INITIATIVE.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS EVALUATING WHETHER IT SHOULD BE REMOVED OR LEFT OR SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS TOMORROW.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS TOMORROW AT SIX O'CLOCK.
AND THEY WILL BE VOTING ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT TO WHAT, WHETHER THEY WANT TO, UM, RECOMMEND THAT BE REMOVED, RECOMMEND THAT IT BE KEPT OR MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT IT BE INCREASED OR MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT IT ONLY BE ALLOWED IN REMOVED IN DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS.
OR THEY WANNA CHANGE THE ORDINANCE.
SO THEY HAVE SOME, THEY CAN MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT THEY COULD DO IS THEY COULD DEFER IT TO A WORK SESSION, UM, SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON IT AS WELL AND HAVE TIME TO WORK ON IT BEFORE THEY MAKE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD.
AND IS THIS ALREADY ON THE AGENDA TO BE HEARD FOR THE NEXT BOARD MEETING? NO, NO, NO.
SO IT WON'T GO TO THE BOARD UNTIL THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTUALLY ACTS ON IT.
WELL, WE WILL TABLE THIS UNTIL THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S GONNA BE MORE INFORMATION THAN PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD LIKE.
BUT WE CAN LEARN MORE NO MORE.
I MEAN, YOU, YOU COULD, UM, ALTER THIS LETTER AND ONLY ADDRESS IT TO THE BOARD AND NOT GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
AND SO I'LL ASK, ARE THERE ANY MORE, ANY MORE DISCUSSION? NO.
I FEEL MORE EDUCATED AT THIS POINT BEFORE THEIR MEETING.
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I FEEL LIKE WE NEED THE INFORMATION TO PLANNING COMMISSION OUT BEFORE WE CAN.I FEEL LIKE THE BEST, THE BEST, UH, FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, GUCCI COUNTY, THE BEST INTEREST IS TO ASK THEM TO CONSIDER REMOVING ENTIRELY.
THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR FAIL SAFES IN PLACE, AND YOU'LL TALK ABOUT THAT TOMORROW IN THEIR MEETING.
I WOULD BE INCLINED TO PUT OUT AND, AND SINCE WE'VE KIND OF GONE OFF OUT OF MENT PROCEDURE, WOULD SOMEONE CONSIDER MAKING A MOTION EITHER TO UP, DOWN OR TABLE? I MOVE THAT WE TABLED THIS.
IS THERE A SECOND HEARING? NO.
IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION? I PROOF.
THIS DISCUSSION HAVE, DO WELL, IT'S THE PROPER, PROPER POLICY, PROPER FORMAT.
I ALREADY SAID, I'VE ALREADY SAID EVERYTHING THAT I FEEL I NEED TO SAY.
UM, AGAIN, IT'S A RECOMMENDATION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I JUST WANNA SAY I, I WAS SKEPTICAL OF GOING IN, BUT I, I KENNY'S POINT IS WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THIS IS GONNA HELP, THIS COULD PUT THE TOOLS IN, IN SARAH'S HANDS AS SHE NEEDS.
AND IT'S, IT'S MERELY A RECOMMENDATION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THAT SIDE.
I FEEL I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO SUPPORT HIM, SO I WILL BE VOTING AGAINST IT.
IF I HAD MORE INFORMATION OR I SAW WHAT HAPPENED TOMORROW, I MIGHT HAVE CHANGED MY MIND, BUT I JUST UNDERSTAND AGAINST THE WALL ON TIME THOUGH.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD WITH A VOTE.
AND ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE STATE AYE.
UM, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
GET IT OUT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND, AND NEXT ITEM WITH BUSINESS IS OUR, UH, WORKSHOP THAT'S, UH, COMING UP NEXT MONTH.
AND ONE OF THE IDEAS WE REALLY WANTED TO PUT FORTH, IF YOU ALL HAVE ITEMS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS AND GET INTO SOME OF THE CONCEPTS, UM, WITH REGARDS TO WHAT WE WANNA BRING FORTH AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD.
UH, I'VE GOT SOME IDEAS THAT I'VE, UH, PUT FORTH, UH, OR PUT DOWN ON PAPER THAT, THAT I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE DOES.
AND I DON'T WANNA BELABOR THE POINT EITHER BECAUSE WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GETTING INTO LATER HOURS AND WE DO HAVE TO GO IN A CLOSED SESSION TOO.
SO MY, I MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, THE ONLY REQUEST THAT I WOULD HAVE IS THAT WE SEND A, UM, JUST A RESPONSE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO ASK THEM THE QUESTIONS THEY HAVE WITH US.
I GOT A RESPONSE BACK FROM, UM, MR. WINFREY.
I JUST WANT US TO BE PREPARED FOR QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE.
WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER INDIVIDUALS ON THE BOARD? NOTHING FROM THEM.
MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T GOT TO THEIR OPINION.
SO ANY IDEA WHEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO OBSERVE THOSE, THEY'RE WHAT THEY WOULD WANT US, MR. WINFREY, UM, WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TRANSPORTATION AND HOW, UM, BASICALLY SITE READINESS AND HOW SITES AND TRANSPORTATION KIND OF WORK TOGETHER.
WHICH SITES DO WE NEED TO FOCUS SOME TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS ON? SO THAT'S DEFINITELY INCORPORATED.
AND UM, MR. BODS WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING BEING BUSINESS FRIENDLY, WHICH WE'RE DEFINITELY ADDRESSING.
AND YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE PUTTING TOGETHER SOME SORT OF PRESENTATION.
YEAH, SO I HAVE A DRAFT OF THE PRESENTATION.
I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO REVIEW IT WITH YOU GUYS.
LIKE ON AN INDIVIDUAL OR TWO BY TWO BASIS.
JUST IN CASE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ADD.
GREAT TECHNOLOGY, BECAUSE MY INTEREST IS AT THE WORKSHOP IN JANUARY THERE WAS COMMENT ABOUT BRINGING THINGS TO TIER FOUR READINESS AND MY REQUEST IS THERE A POTENTIAL FIVE SHORT LIST OF FIVE LOCATIONS THAT WE COULD INVEST IN BRINGING TO TIER FOUR READINESS? I MEAN, I, I LIKE SPECIFICS.
I DON'T WANT TO BUILD SHELL BUILDINGS, BUT IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE COULD SAY, THIS PARCEL, THIS PARCEL, THIS PARCEL, THIS PARCEL.
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AND THEN ANOTHER ONE THAT I ASKED, AND YOU AND I MAY HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS A BUNCH, BUT IT IS, WHAT KIND OF CHANGES TO THE COMP PLAN WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE EASIER ACCESS TO HIGH KILOWATT VOLTAGE WIRES? UH, BECAUSE THE CURRENT COMP LAND WOULD NOT BE FRIENDLY TOWARDS ACCESSING HIGH KILOWATT LINES.THAT COULD PUT A DAMPER ON ANY KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD HAVE USE OF HIGH KILOWATTS VOLTAGE.
SO I THINK CURRENT COMP PLAN DOES NOT SHOW INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
I'LL LEAVE IT A COMMERCIAL CLOSE TO THOSE LINES.
AND SO, UH, I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN FOLLOWING THE COMP PLAN.
AND I ALSO BELIEVE LEVER OF CHANGING THE COMP PLAN IS, IS THE ENVIRONMENTS DICTATE.
SO THOSE WERE MY THREE AND I APOLOGIZE YOU DIDN'T GET, UH, TECHNOLOGY OR MAYBE I DIDN'T PUSH THE SIM KEY, BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE THINGS I HAD ON MY LIST.
UM, AND IF NO ONE MINDS I'LL RUN THROUGH A COUPLE THOUGHTS I'VE HAD.
UH, ONE IS I'D LIKE TO SEE THE STAFF DEVELOP, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, SARAH, ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE INDICATORS.
'CAUSE JUST LIKE YOU ASKED ABOUT THE SPLIT, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT NOT ONLY ON A CONSTANT BASIS, BUT GOING BACKWARDS TO KNOW WHERE WE'VE COME FROM IN TERMS OF JUST VARIOUS THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IN TERMS OF THE ACTUAL PERFORMANCE.
AND, AND I THINK IT'S A COMMON THING.
IT'S DONE THROUGHOUT COUNTIES AND CITIES.
IT'S BEEN DONE FOR, GEE WHIZ AS FAR AS I KNOW, 20, 30 YEARS.
AND IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN TRACK OUR OWN PERFORMANCE.
UH, ALSO LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE, UH, FOR ROAD EXTENSION.
I DON'T, I DON'T RECALL THAT BEING ON THERE, BUT, UH, JUST SO THAT WE CAN KIND OF GET UP TO SPEED ON THAT.
YOU BRIEFED US A NUMBER OF TIMES, SARAH, BUT KIND OF TO GET IT OUT IN THE PUBLIC AND, AND REALLY, UH, ALSO POINT OUT WHAT THE, IF THERE IS CONCURRENCE FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON THAT.
UM, I'VE ALSO WRITTEN DOWN WEST CREEK, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY GO INTO THIS.
UM, IN A, IN CHALLENGES IN DEVELOPING IN WEST CREEK.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO SAY IT, BECAUSE THERE ARE RELATIONSHIPS.
THERE ARE, UM, UH, TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITY AND AS WE'VE DISCUSSED BOTH AN OPEN AND CLOSED SESSION, UM, SOME REAL LIMITATIONS, WHICH GOES BACK TO CHALLENGES EXACTLY WHAT YOU STATED.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IN A DISCUSSION, UH, WHAT WOULD I THINK ONE, WELL, ANYWAY, LET ME, LET ME CHARACTERIZE IT AS OPEN INFORMATION.
I, I KNOW THERE'S THIS LIBRARY.
I DUNNO IF THAT'S FROM TERM OF INFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE, I THINK IT WAS A, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, ELECTRICAL STUDY DONE WITH REGARDS TO WEST CREEK BACK QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, BUT I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT.
AND I'VE HEARD THERE'S A NUMBER OF STUDIES FROM, LET'S SAY, FORMER INDIVIDUALS THAT IT, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL THAT WE COULD SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED THIS SETTING, UH, ABOUT THE, UM, LICENSE, WELL, LET'S SAY THE OPPORTUNITY TO LICENSE A WASTEWATER PLANT IN THE OILVILLE AREA.
NOT THAT WE'RE GONNA DO ANYTHING, BUT JUST THE FACT THAT IT'S THERE.
JUST THAT TYPE OF, THOSE STUDIES, UH, BE OPEN AND AVAILABLE TO US.
UM, AND ALSO LOOKING IN ALONG WITH THE ECONOMIC PERFORMANCE INDICATORS, GOALS AND PLANS.
THAT IS OBVIOUSLY OUR GOAL, I THINK IS, YEAH, I SHOULDN'T SAY IT THAT WAY.
OUR GOAL MIGHT BE 70 30 SPLIT, UH, WHERE WE HAVE 30% COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL, WHATEVER, UM, THAT PRESENTS OUR REVENUE.
AND REALLY A, A WAY TO GET THERE.
UM, AND I'M THINKING, ESPECIALLY IN REFERENCE TO OUR VIRGINIA TECH STUDY.
I'M, I'M STILL IN MY MIND IN A REAL QUANDARY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE OF, I THINK THE CONCLUSIONS THAT THEY LED TO LET LEFT OUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO THAT ARE VERY VIABLE RIGHT NOW THAT WOULD BRING INCREASED REVENUE TO THE COUNTY.
AND WOULDN'T THAT BE DEPENDENT ON HOW SITE READY WE ARE THOUGH? TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, YES.
BUT GOING BACK TO THE, THE COMMENTS WITH REGARDS TO, UH, THE VOLTAGE LINES, THERE ARE PLACES THERE WHERE IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S SITE RATE OR NOT BECAUSE OF THE CAPABILITY,
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THE POTENTIAL OF THAT, UM, THAT AREA.SO THERE'S THINGS LIKE THAT WHICH KIND OF ALSO TIES INTO THE CONCEPT OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, WHICH IS ANOTHER ITEM.
BUT, UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE PLACES THAT DON'T HAVE TO BE SITE READY AS LONG AS YOU CAN MOVE FAST ENOUGH.
UM, AND, AND I'M, THAT'S PART OF THE COMP PLAN.
THAT'S PART OF THE WHOLE PROCESS.
AND I, I, WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GOING TOO FAR ON THAT, BUT, AND ALSO I THINK WE OUGHT TO SAY TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOUR ATTENDANCE.
I MEAN, WE'VE HAD ONE SUPERVISOR HERE, I THINK IN ALMOST EVERY MEETING, EVEN BEFORE HE WAS, UH, ELECTED AND ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL AT OUR LAST MEETING.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO SAY THANK YOU.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING, UM, GUIDANCE AND, UH, AND WORKING TOGETHER.
UM, THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OFF TRACK, BUT THINKING ABOUT, UH, WHEN WE ARE CONSIDERING SOMETHING, UM, HAVING RESOURCES THAT MIGHT, YOU KNOW, I, I, LET ME BACKTRACK.
BUT THE VIRGINIA TECH SITE THAT, UH, SHOWS YOU ELECTRICAL RESOURCES, THAT'S WHAT I USE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S OTHER COUNTY RESOURCES THAT WE COULD USE WITHIN THE CONFINES OF WHAT'S PERMISSIBLE BY IT POLICIES, ET CETERA, THAT WOULD SHOW US WHAT THE ZONING OVERLAY IS WITH THE RESOURCE OVERLAY WITH, YOU KNOW, FIBER OPTICS WITH WHATEVER MIGHT BE, UH, IMPORTANT.
AND THEN TECHNOLOGY ZONE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT, UH, TWO ON ONE AND EXPLORING THAT TO ENCOMPASS VERY LARGE AREAS WITHIN, UM, LET'S SAY AREAS THAT CAN, THAT ARE ALREADY PROPERLY ZONED.
AND THEN, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHER AREAS THAT AREN'T ZONED.
AND THEN, UM, HOW WE CAN HELP WITH MARKETING BECAUSE WE HAVE A GREAT FINANCIAL PICTURE, UH, IN INCREDIBLE FINANCIAL PICTURE TO PRESENT.
WE'VE GOT LOW TAX RATES, GREAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
UM, SO THOSE ARE KIND OF MY THOUGHTS.
SO UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING ELSE THAT I DON'T WANT, I'M JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING MORE PROBABLY FROM VIC ABOUT HOW OTHER RURAL COMMUNITIES LIKE OURS, THE BOS AND THE, UH, ADAS WORK TOGETHER.
LIKE THE WAYS IN WHICH WE HAVE NOT THOUGHT OF.
AND I KNOW THAT HE HAD SOME IDEAS, BUT I DON'T KNOW, JUST FORWARD THINKING, NEW, NEW IDEAS ON HOW WE COULD WORK TOGETHER THAT HAVEN'T COME UP YET.
THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A MEETING BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE CODE OF VIRGINIA WITH, UH, MEMBERS OF PALATAN EDA AND AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WHICH I FOUND VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE THEY WERE COMING TO US TO LOOK FOR MM-HMM.
AND THEY HAD JUST LITERALLY, UH, WON THEIR DATA CENTER.
BUT I THINK THAT'S A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT CONCEPT.
WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF, OF WAYS THAT WE CAN BE MORE INVOLVED? I THINK IF, UM, YOU WANNA COME IN, I CAN SHOW YOU A DRAFT OF THE PRESENTATION.
I'LL GET WITH YOU TO SCHEDULE A TIME.
IS IT, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE TWO ON ONE 'CAUSE WE COULDN'T GET A SPECIAL MEETING BEFORE.
I DON'T, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANNA PRESENT IT PUBLICLY WITHOUT THE BOARD HAVING SEEN IT, SO RIGHT.
I WOULD RATHER KEEP IT, UM, TWO BY TWOS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, HOW, IN FACT, FROM A SCHEDULE STANDPOINT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT TO THE SUPPLY, OUR THOUGHTS TO YOU? AND THAT IS, WE'LL HAVE A, A MEETING IN AUGUST, BUT RIGHT.
I WOULD SAY I PROBABLY NEED TO GET, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING IT THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF AUGUST.
SO IT'LL BE FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE IN ROUGH DRAFT FORM BY THE END OF THE MONTH.
I HAVE, I HAVE A, I HAVE A VERY GOOD ROUGH DRAFT FORM NOW.
UM, BUT I'M TRAVELING
SO FROM A SCHEDULING STANDPOINT, SHOULD BE JUST INDIVIDUALS REACHING OUT TO YOU AND YES, PLEASE.
TWO ON ONE TYPE OR ONE ON ONE-ON-ONE
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OR WHATEVER, OR WORK, LIKE IF SOMEBODY REACHES OUT AND SOMEONE ELSE DOES, I CAN SAY, WELL, MR. COLLIER'S COMING IN AT THIS TIME.OR ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THE REPORT OF SUPERVISORS, CDA WORKSHOP? HEARING NONE, I GUESS WE'LL MOVE ON TO OTHER BUSINESS.
IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS FOR CONSIDERATION THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS? YES.
SO, UH, THE MIDPOINT PURCHASER, UM, HAS REQUESTED AN EXTENSION TO THE CLOSING DATE TO SEPTEMBER.
UM, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE NEXT WEEK.
UH, I DID CONSULT WITH, UH, MICHAEL, WITH CHRISTIAN BARTON.
HE DOES NOT SEE AN ISSUE WITH GRANTING THE EXTENSION AT ALL, UM, CONSIDERING THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD LIKE A YEAR DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD.
UM, SO, BUT HE DID RECOMMEND TWO, TWO OPTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
YOU CAN EITHER GRANT THE EXTENSION WITH NO ADDITIONAL FEE, OR YOU COULD GRANT THE EXTENSION WITH A SMALL EXTENSION FEE THAT COULD THEN BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE PRICE.
IT'S REALLY, HE SAID THAT THAT MIGHT ENTICE US A SPEEDY OR CLOSING.
UM, BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT THEY ARE DEFINITELY VERY INTERESTED IN CLOSING.
IN SEPTEMBER, THEY JUST NEEDED SOME MORE TIME.
IT WAS LIKE 45 DAYS FROM THE TIME THAT THEY, UM, NOTIFY US.
SO THAT'S A VERY FAST CLOSING, UM, TO GET SOME MAYBE FINANCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN ORDER.
SO, UM, IT, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS.
SO DOES ANYBODY FEEL, UH, GOOD ABOUT MAKING A MOTION FOR EITHER ONE OF THE TWO OPTIONS? SURE.
UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND IT.
WHAT WAS THE, UH, REQUESTED DATE? UM, HE SAID LET'S JUST DO TO SEPTEMBER 30TH.
UH, WITH, WITH ZERO FEE, I WOULD, I WOULD SECOND THAT.
UH, BUT IF THEY COME BACK FOR A SECOND ONE, THEN WE'D HAVE TO EVALUATE THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S TOTALLY WHAT I WAS THINKING.
SO NO ABOUT PUTTING THAT IN THE MOTION THOUGH.
WAIT, WAIT A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND.
UH, IS THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? YEAH.
SO WE'RE FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THIS STILL? YES.
YEAH, THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE WHAT I, THE DISCUSSION WOULD BE IF YOU COME BACK FOR A SECOND, UM, EVALUATE FEE.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION? UH, PLEASE STATE AYE.
IT PASSES ANY OTHER, OTHER BUSINESS? OKAY.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND I ASSUME BASED ON PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, WE ARE GONNA HAVE A CLOSED SESSION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS.
VIRGINIA INCLUDES SECTIONS 2.23711 AND 2.23712.
I MOVE ITS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF CUSHMAN COUNTY CONVENING A CLOSED MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION CONCERNING A PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS FOR INDUSTRY LOCATED IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT ITS PLANS HAVE HAS BEEN MADE IN DISCUSSION OR CONSIDERATION OF THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY, WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NA UH, NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY AS PERMITTED BY VIRGINIA CODE SECTIONS 2.23711, PARAGRAPH A THREE AND A FIVE.
THEREFORE THERE'S A MOTIONS THERE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION HEARING? NO DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF MOTION, PLEASE STATE AYE.
WE DISCUSSED OR CONSIDERED BY DIVISION COUNTY COUNTY DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IN THE CLOSED MEETING OF THIS DATE.
ANY DISCUSSION GRANTED, NO DISCUSSION? UH, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE STATE AYE.
ALL OPPOSED? I NEED A ROLL CALL.
HERE, UH, A OR AYE OR NAY FOR THE COMING OUT OF CLOSED SESSION.
NO, NO ABSTENTIONS CLOSED SESSION.
IS THERE ANY OTHER MATTER BROUGHT BEFORE THE BODY HEARING? NANA, IS THERE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? ADJOURN.
UH, IS IT, NO, THERE'S NO DISCUSSION
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ON ADJOURN.UH, ALL IN FAVOR? ADJOURN PLEASE STATE AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY EXCEPTIONS? ADJOURNED MEETING.