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I WILL NOW CALL TO ORDER THIS.
[I. 4:00 PM Call to Order]
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.UM, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE OUR INVOCATION BY, UH, MS. PASTOR
[II. Invocation]
BARBARA MARKS, BUT SHE WAS CAUGHT UP IN THE FENDER BENDER OUT HERE, SO PLEASE KEEP HER IN YOUR PRAYERS.AND, UH, SHE DID PASS THIS ALONG.
GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS GLORIOUS DAY, AND ASK THAT YOUR HOLY SPIRIT GUIDE US AS WE CONSIDER THE PLANS FOR AND WELFARE OF THE COUNTY OF GLAND.
REMIND US THAT YOU CREATED IT, YOU GAVE IT TO US, TO TREASURE AND PROTECT.
MAY ALL THAT COME BEFORE THIS BOARD TODAY, APPROACH IN PEACE AND MAY HOPE AND WISDOM GUIDE THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THEIR DISCUSSIONS AND DECISIONS.
WE PRAY THIS IN NAME OF JESUS.
[III. Pledge of Allegiance]
[IV. Chair's Comments]
THANK YOU.UM, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO THE CHAIR'S COMMENTS.
I'VE JUST GOT A COUPLE FOR THIS MONTH.
UM, FIRST ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 24TH, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD, NUMEROUS STAFF AND A NUMBER OF CITIZENS ATTENDED THE GLAND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WORKSHOP AT THE CENTRAL HIGH SCHOOL COMPLEX.
UH, WE DISCUSSED WHERE WE ARE AS A COUNTY, UH, AND IDEAS TO ENHANCE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND CORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS.
SARAH WORLEY AND CHANCE ROBINSON OF OUR, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE PUT TOGETHER A GREAT PRESENTATION AND WE SPENT MOST OF THE DAY DISCUSSING CHALLENGES AND SHARING IDEAS TO OVERCOME THOSE CHALLENGES.
UM, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THAT, UM, OUR THREE QUESTIONS HIT ME.
UH, FIRST, WHY DOES EVERYONE SEEM TO WANNA LIVE IN GOOCHLAND? UH, SHORT ANSWER IS WE ARE AWESOME.
UM, SO LET'S TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
SECOND, UH, WHY ARE ALL THESE GLAND OFFICIALS GIVING UP THEIR SATURDAY FOR THIS? UM, I'D SAY WE HAVE A DEDICATED STAFF AND GROUP OF ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND THAT IS, UH, A GREAT ASSET TO THIS COUNTY.
UH, AND THIRD, WHY DO WE DO THESE, UH, LOOK TO DO THESE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, AND I THINK WE HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT WE OFFER OUR CITIZENS, AND WE ALSO HAVE A ROBUST CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
SO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO BE LOOKING FORWARD.
AND THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS HELP US IN ADDITION TO REVENUES WE GET FROM RESIDENTIAL TAX REVENUE.
UM, THESE ARE, UH, CRITICAL TO BALANCING OUR, UH, REVENUES THAT COME INTO THE COUNTY OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
SO IT WAS A, UH, GREAT DAY, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GIVING UP A GOOD CHUNK OF THEIR WEEKENDS FOR IT.
AND, UH, I'M SO GLAD THAT IN GOLAND COUNTY WE, UH, DO WORKSHOPS LIKE THAT.
UH, SECOND, UH, MR. NEIL SPOON.
HOWER WAS VOTED THE FINANCE CHAIR OF THE CVTA OVER THE PAST MONTH.
AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, WONDERFUL FOR THE COUNTY AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, WITH TRYING TO GET FUNDING FOR MAJOR, UM, TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
AND THIRD, MR. AUSTIN GOIN, UH, OUR TRANSPORTATION DIRECTOR WAS VOTED VICE CHAIR OF THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF CVTA.
SO GREAT WAY FOR GLAND STAFF AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE A PART OF THESE, UH, BROADER REGIONAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT BOARDS.
SO THOSE ARE THE, UH, CHAIR COMMENTS I HAVE FOR THIS MONTH.
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. VIC CARPENTER, MR. CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD.
JUST TWO ITEMS, UH, TO REMIND YOU OF IS WE ALL RECALL WHERE
[V. County Administrator's Comments]
WE WERE ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, 2001, AND WE'LL BE REMEMBERING OUR, UH, TRADITIONAL[Wednesday, September 11 Remembrance Ceremonies to be held as follows:]
UCHIN COUNTY REMEMBRANCE CEREMONIES THIS YEAR.AGAIN, UH, ON, UH, OBVIOUSLY SEPTEMBER 11TH, 9:45 AM
[1. 9:45 AM, Company 5 Firehouse, 2710 Fairground Road]
AT COMPANY FIVE FIREHOUSE HERE IN FAIRGROUNDS ROAD, AND THEN LATER THAT NIGHT, 7:00 PM[2. 7:00 PM, Company 1 Firehouse, 180 River Road West (Community Event)]
AT COMPANY ONE FIREHOUSE, WHICH IS 180 RIVER ROAD WEST.BOTH THESE ARE COMMUNITY EVENTS.
THE PUBLIC IS WELCOME, UH, TO COME TO THEM BOTH.
[VI. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the Order of Presentation]
NOW HAVE, UH, WE'LL NOW TAKE ANY REQUEST POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS AND ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES IN THE ORDER OF PRESENTATION.ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT? OKAY.
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SEEING NONE, WE'LL[VII. Citizen Comment]
NOW MOVE ON TO THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD.UH, WE WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR TO CITIZEN COMMENTS.
I'M SUPPOSED TO DO THAT AFTER EACH SPEAKER MUST GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS.
CITIZENS ARE REMINDED THAT COMMENTS SHOULD BE ABOUT ITEMS NOT COVERED BY THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEING HELD LATER TONIGHT.
COMMENTS SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL AND NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IN LENGTH.
SHOULD MULTIPLE CITIZENS WISH TO HAVE A COMMON SPEAKER, THEY MAY SEE THEIR TIME IN TWO MINUTE INCREMENTS, UP TO A TOTAL ALLOTTED TIME OF 10 MINUTES PER BOARD RULE.
RULES OF PROCEDURE SECTION 3.2, A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME INTENDED TO NOT BE MORE THAN AN HOUR IS ALLOCATED FOR CITIZENS COMMENT, PERIOD.
UM, LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD, MANNEQUIN SA I HAVE HAD A BUSY, BUSY MONTH OF AUGUST.
UM, WHAT IS BEING PASSED OUT TO YOU IS A MAP THAT WAS USED FOR, UH, TO, UH, TALK TO, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, OFF OF MANNEQUIN ROAD CALLED TUCKAHOE BRIDGE.
UM, THEY HAD QUESTIONS BASED ON OUR WORKSHOP THAT WE DID ON AUGUST THE EIGHTH.
IT WAS, UH, THE PRESENTATION WAS DONE BY ROB WILLIAMSON, PAUL COSTELLO, AND MYSELF.
WE WERE, UM, KIND OF, UM, TAKEN BACK WHEN NONE OF THESE NEIGHBORS SEEMED TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON AROUND THEM.
UM, THEY DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT, UM, I'M SORRY, MY ALARM, UH, ABOUT, UH, UH, MANNEQUIN TOWN.
THEY HAD NO IDEA THAT IT HAD BEEN VOTED ON, UH, MANY, MANY YEARS AGO.
THEY HAD NO IDEA, UH, ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH A PRE-APPLICATION FOR HIGHFIELD THAT, THAT BORDERS THEM.
THEY HAD NO IDEA THAT A PRE-APPLICATION HAD BEEN PUT IN FOR THE, UH, GOLF COURSE.
MATTER OF FACT, SOME OF THEM SAID THAT THEY HAD STOPPED BY THE GOLF COURSE, AND THE GOLF COURSE HAD TOLD THEM IT WAS NOT FOR SALE.
SO, UM, WE DEAL WITH JUST FACTS.
UM, WE DO NOT PUT ANYTHING OUT THAT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED FROM THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE A FIRM POLICY TO NOT SPREAD RUMORS.
WELL, RIGHT NOW, THERE IS SO MANY RUMORS GOING AROUND THAT ABOUT EVERYTHING FROM X TO Z.
UM, WE ARE, WE ARE JUST YOU NOT, UM, UH, UH, GETTING, UH, THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO, UM, KIND OF CALM PEOPLE DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON, UH, I GUESS FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
UH, IT HAS BEEN MORE PRONOUNCED.
AND I THINK THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO, UH, DO A BETTER JOB OF COMMUNICATING, UM, WITH THE CITIZENS WHAT IS GOING ON, UH, IN THEIR COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY COULDN'T FULLY, UH, ENGAGE WITH YOU SO THAT THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A VOICE.
I FEEL LIKE I'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD VOICE, OKAY.
BUT I, I WOULD LIKE MORE THAN ME TO HAVE TO BE UP HERE STANDING, UH, MONTH AFTER MONTH AFTER MONTH.
AND THAT, THAT, THAT WILL COME WITH TIME.
I'M AT 1 5 6 7 6 MOSAIC CREEK BOULEVARD.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF GLAND CARES.
AND, UM, THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS CHANCE TO, THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW CEO.
THIS IS ANDREA HANNAN, AND SHE'S SIX DAYS INTO THE JOB, BUT WE WANTED TO BE SURE THAT YOU MET HER EARLY ON.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE FUTURE AND WHERE THE ORGANIZATION IS GONNA GO, AND I THOUGHT I'D LET ANDREA SAY HI.
UM, ANDREA HON IN AND, UH, GLAND CARES IS MY NEW, UH, RESIDENCE, I GUESS 2 9 9 9 RIVER ROAD WEST.
UM, I'M SO, SO PLEASED AND HONORED TO BE JOINING THIS AMAZING ORGANIZATION, UM, CONTINUING THE LEGACY THAT SALLY HAS, UH, DEVELOPED OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS.
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AS OF SUNDAY, IT WAS HER 25TH ANNIVERSARY.UM, AND SO CAN'T THANK YOU ALL ENOUGH FOR THE TREMENDOUS SUPPORT THAT THE COUNTY SHOWS TO GLAND CARES AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE ORG OF THE COUNTY, AND ALL OF THE 12 SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED.
AND JUST LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU AND CONTINUING THE TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY AND PARTNERSHIP THAT THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS, UM, HAVE BUILT OVER THE YEARS.
SO, WONDERFUL TO MEET YOU ALL AND, AND LOOK FORWARD TO MORE TO COME.
AND COULD WE HAVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR MS. GRAHAM? GOOD AFTERNOON.
UH, MS. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF.
I'M KEITH BURGESS, DISTRICT MANAGER FOR MONICA AND SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT.
LET ME LEAD OFF BY THANKING YOU ALL FOR PLACING OUR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR LATER THIS AFTERNOON.
MONICA HOSTED ITS ANNUAL VIRGINIA AGRICULTURAL CALL SHIP OUTREACH PROGRAM EVENT ON AUGUST 27TH.
THE VIRGINIA ASSOCIATION FOR BIOLOGICAL FARMING PROVIDED A KEYNOTE PARTNER PRESENTATION.
A VARIETY OF PARTNER ORGANIZATIONS WERE PRESENT, INCLUDING VIRGINIA STATE UNIVERSITY WITH ITS SMALL FARM OUTREACH PROGRAM.
A VARIETY OF PRODUCERS RANGING FROM TRADITIONAL GRAIN AND LIVESTOCK PRODUCERS TO SMALL PRODUCERS THAT RAISED AND PROCESS POULTRY FOR DIRECT MARKETING.
ALL 47, SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICTS ACROSS THE STATE OF VIRGINIA ARE EVALUATED ANNUALLY RELATED TO GRANT AGREEMENTS WITH THE VIRGINIA STATE SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD, AND SUBSEQUENTLY THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION RECREATION.
THE REVIEW IS CONDUCTED BY DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION RECREATION STAFF.
THE OPERATIONS AND ADMINISTRATIVE GRANT CONTAINS 17 GRANT DELIVERABLES.
THE VIRGINIA AGRICULTURAL COST SHARE GRANT CONTAINS 16 DELIVERABLES.
MONICA RECEIVED AN A RATING A RATING, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST GRADE POSSIBLE IN ALL DELIVERABLES.
THERE WERE NO DEFICIENCIES, NO RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE OPERATIONS.
MONICA AND STAFF CONSISTENTLY IMPLEMENTS REVIEWS AND REVISES CHECKS AND BALANCES TO IMPLEMENT BEST BUSINESS PRACTICES.
WE'RE WORKING ON OUR FOUR YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN LATER THIS FALL.
WE WILL HOLD A STAKEHOLDER MEETING WITH THAT DATE AND LOCATION, YET TO BE DETERMINED RELATED TO FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.
OUR BOARD REVIEWS, FINANCIAL STATEMENTS IN ALL TRANSACTIONS AS OF THE END OF EACH MONTH.
QUARTERLY FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE ALSO REVIEWED BY DCR FOR COMPLIANCE WITH GRANT AGREEMENTS WITH THE VIRGINIA SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION BOARD.
WE'VE MET RECENTLY WITH BOTH UCHIN AND INE COUNTY STAFF.
THESE MEETINGS ARE MORE MULTIFOLD AND PURPOSE.
THE FIRST IS TO ENHANCE WORKING RELATIONSHIPS AND FOR LESS TENURED COUNTY STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THE SERVICES AND RESOURCES PROVIDED AND AVAILABLE THROUGH MONICA.
THE SECOND PURPOSE IS TO EXPAND OUR CONSERVATION PARTNERSHIPS THAT WILL BENEFIT OUR COMMUNITIES THROUGH SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION.
A THIRD BENEFIT AT THIS TIME AS WE MOVE INTO THE BUDGET SEASON IS TO, UH, HELP US ALL IN DEVELOPING BUDGETS AND UNDERSTAND OUR BUDGETS, AND WE CONTINUE TO SEEK APPLICATIONS FOR OUR AGRICULTURAL CONSERVATION TECHNICIAN POSITION.
SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR
[VIII. Approval of Action Minutes]
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, THE MINUTES FROM OUR AUGUST 6TH, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING, UH, WHICH BEGAN AT[1. Minutes of Aug 6, 2024 4:30 PM]
4:30 PM DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE MINUTES? SO MOVED.I'LL NOW ASK OUR GLAND REPRESENTATIVES TO THE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD, MS. BARBARA YOUNG AND MS. BARBARA SLOAN TO PRESENT AN
[IX. Reports]
UPDATE ON THE LIBRARY.[1. Pamunkey Regional Library Board]
GOOD AFTERNOON.UH, CHAIRMAN VOER AND BOARD MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE AT P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY BOARD.
I'M BARBARA YOUNG, AS I WAS INTRODUCED AS ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES FOR GLAND COUNTY, AND MY FELLOW REPRESENTATIVE IS BARBARA SLOAN.
BARBARA HAD A, A FAMILY, UH, THING THAT WENT ON THIS AFTERNOON, SO SHE'S NOT GOING TO JOIN AS FAR AS THE PRESENTATION.
HOWEVER, WHEN WE COME TO QUESTIONS
YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE NAMED BARBARA TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE.
SO, UM, WE, I HAVE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO THOUGH, IS I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO, UM, TWO NEW, UM, FOLKS ON THERE ON HAVE
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BEEN ON THE STAFF, BUT THEY HAVE JOINED US IN THE LEADERSHIP ON THE STAFF.AS YOU WELL KNOW THAT WE RECEIVED A LETTER OF RESIGNATION FROM, UH, MR. TOM SHEPLEY.
UH, WE RECEIVED THAT IN, UH, ON JUNE 13TH, AND WE ACCEPTED HIS RESIGNATION ON JUNE 27TH.
AT THAT TIME, TIME, WE HIRED MS. JAMIE SOES, UM, AS THE ACTING PRL DIRECTOR AND MS. SHETA BRAD, WHO IS BACK HERE AS THE ACTING ASSISTANT DIRECTOR.
BOTH MS. STOOPS AND MS. BRAD EACH HAVE OVER 20 YEARS WITH P**N, UH, LIBRARY AND BRING A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS TO THE POSITIONS.
BOTH HAVE BEEN SERVING AS DEPUTY DIRECTORS BEFORE WE MOVE THEM INTO THEIR CURRENT POSITIONS BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THEY HAVE STEPPED UP TO THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE HAVE GIVEN THEM TO TAKE ON AND TO HELP CREATE SOME SMOOTH TRANSITION WITH THE PERMANENT STAFF.
UM, DOWN THE ROAD, WE HAVE SET THE TIME OF SERVICE IN THESE ROLES.
AS THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, IT'LL BE JUNE 30TH.
WE DO HAVE FLEXIBILITY WITH THIS TIMELINE.
UM, AND JAMIE WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
THANK YOU, CHAIR VOS, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES.
UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF SERVING PRL IN THESE NEW ROLES OVER THE COMING YEAR.
I'D LIKE TO JUST BRIEFLY HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE KEY ACHIEVEMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 24.
UM, OVERALL SYSTEM PERFORMANCE AT THE LIBRARY.
WE SURPASSED ALL OUR, OUR FORECASTED GOALS IN SEVERAL KEY AREAS.
CIRCULATION LIBRARY VISITS AND ATTENDANCE AT LIBRARY SPONSORED PROGRAMS. UH, WE ACHIEVED 90% OF OUR FORECASTED GOAL FOR NEW BORROWERS.
UM, SO NOTABLE STATISTICS, UH, COMING FROM OUR GLAND BRANCH, UH, MEETING ROOM USAGE, UH, THE COMMUNITY USE OF THE MEETING ROOM INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY BY 68% THIS YEAR, LARGELY DUE TO BEING OPENED ONE HOUR LATER EACH EVENING, MONDAY THROUGH THURSDAY.
UM, THIS STATISTIC, AS WELL AS THE 14% INCREASE IN LIBRARY VISITS, UM, DOES HIGHLIGHT THE NEED FOR A PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO MEET.
SO THANK YOU FOR FUNDING THOSE ADDITIONAL HOURS THIS YEAR.
UH, SUMMER READING PROGRAM, YOUR CHILDREN BRANCH HAD A HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL SUMMER READING PROGRAM, DESPITE BEING THE FOURTH LARGEST BRANCH IN THE SYSTEM, THEY HAD THE SECOND HIGHEST SIGNUPS IN THE SYSTEM, TOTALING 1,728 PARTICIPANTS.
UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A MORE DETAILED COMMUNITY IMPACT REPORT THAT WE'LL HOPEFULLY BE SHARING WITH THE LIBRARY BOARD AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, AND WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH OUR COUNTY, UM, COUNTIES AS WELL.
I'M EXCITED FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.
WE ARE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THEM, TOO.
UM, WE, AS ABOUT MONKEY BOARD, UH, UH, FOR THE LIBRARY, HAVE ONE OF OUR, AS ONE OF OUR KEY RESPONSIBILITIES IS FISCAL RESPONSIBILITIES.
IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023, WE WERE MADE AWARE THAT THE YEARLY AUDITS FOR, UM, FY 2022 AND FY 2023 WERE BOTH NOT COMPLETED.
WE IMMEDIATELY SET UP AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, UM, WHOSE MEMBERS MET WEEKLY, AND THAT INCLUDED OUR, UH, PEOPLE OFF OUR BOARD.
IT INCLUDED STAFF, IT INCLUDED HANOVER'S FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT, AND, UM, THE AUDIT COMPANY.
THE FY 2022 AUDIT WAS FINALLY COMPLETED IN DECEMBER OF 2023, AND THE FY 23 AUDIT WAS COMPLETED IN JUNE OF 2024 TO ASSIST P**N IN COMPLETING THESE, WE AS A BOARD HIRED A PART-TIME CPA, UM, TO ASSIST WITH THAT WORK.
IN JULY, UM, OF 2024, WE BEGAN THE WORK ON THE FY 24 AUDIT, WITH THE GOAL OF COMPLETING IT BY NOVEMBER 30TH OF THIS YEAR.
I'M PLEASED TO REPORT THAT WE, UH, THE WORK ON THE FY 24 AUDIT IS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THEY, WE TURNED IN THINGS.
WE WE'RE NOW LOOKING FOR HANOVER TO GET THINGS TO US.
SO, UM, WHICH IS KIND OF A NICE, NICE TURNAROUND.
WE'VE ALSO MADE, UM, THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE INTO ONE OF OUR STANDING COMMITTEES.
SO WE WILL CONTINUE WITH THAT AUDIT COMMITTEE.
AND WE HAVE, UM, UH, WE ALSO ARE PLANNING ON TRYING TO HIRE THE, UM, CPA PART-TIME, BUT FULL-TIME, PART-TIME.
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PLR, OUR PRL STAFF MEMBER WHO HAS REALLY STEPPED UP TO THE PLATE SINCE OUR CHANGE IN THE UPPER LEVEL MANAGEMENT IS KEN CATRON, THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS MANAGER AT, UM, P**N.ONE OF OUR STANDING COMMITTEES IS OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE, WHICH IS CHAIRED BY BARBARA.
UM, AND, UM, IT, IT IS ONCE AGAIN A FULLY FUNCTIONING COMMITTEE.
KEN AND BARBARA HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY TOGETHER TO CREATE AS MUCH, A MUCH MORE INFORMATIVE MONTHLY FUND BALANCE REPORT.
I KNOW THAT MOVING TOWARDS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, THE MOVE THAT MOVING TOWARDS THE FINANCE COMMITTEE IS WORKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FY 2026 BUDGET IS COMPLETED AND SHARED WITH OUR MEMBER DIVISIONS IN A TIMELY MANNER.
THAT BRINGS ME TO THEIR LATEST CONCERN, WHICH HAS SURFACED IN JULY.
AND THAT WAS THAT WE RECEIVED A LETTER, UM, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS AND I AS CHAIR RECEIVED, UH, A MESSAGE FROM KING WILLIAM COUNTY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE P**N REGIONAL LIBRARY AT THE END OF JUNE.
NOW, UM, THEY VERY RECENTLY, THE COUNTY, UM, ADMINISTRATOR, UH, AND KING WILLIAMS SUBMITTED HIS RESIGNATION.
AND THE NOW ACTING COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, JUST IN THE LAST WEEK, SENT US A MESSAGE, UM, SAYING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO HOLD OFF ON MAKING ANY DECISIONS UNTIL THEY HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO REGROUP ON WHAT THEY'RE DOING, WHICH MAKES MAKING A BUDGET FOR 2020 26 A LITTLE DIFFICULT, UM, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'LL BE PART OF P**N OR WHETHER THEY WON'T.
AND TO BE VERY HONEST, KEN HAS PUT TOGETHER TWO BUDGETS, ONE WITH KING WILLIAMS STILL IN THE SYSTEM, AND ONE WITHOUT.
SO WE ARE WORKING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT WITHOUT GETTING OFF SCHEDULE.
WE HAVE DONE, UM, WE'VE COMPLETED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK, UM, WITH THE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HELP OF THE STAFF.
ONE THING IS A FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
THE STATE OF VIRGINIA REQUIRES THAT ALL LIBRARIES AND REGIONAL LIBRARY SYSTEMS WITHIN THE STATE HAVE A CURRENT FIVE-YEAR PLAN.
THE FIVE-YEAR PLAN IS DIRECTLY TIED TO THE AVAILABILITY OF STATE FUNDS.
THE LAST FORMALLY COMPLETED, UM, PRL FIVE-YEAR PLAN EXPIRED AT THE END OF 2020 EACH YEAR IN THE REPORT TO THE STATE OF VIRGINIA, PRL HAS BEEN ABLE TO REPORT THAT THERE WERE STILL GOALS AND OBJECTIVES IN THAT EXPIRED PLAN THAT NEEDED TO BE COMPLETED.
HOWEVER, AS A TEAM STACKED THE TEAM WITH STAFF AND THE BOARD, WE DECIDED THAT WE REALLY NEEDED A CURRENT PLAN.
AND IN AUGUST, WE COMPLETED, COMPLETED, AND APPROVED A NEW TEMPORARY FIVE YEAR PLAN.
MS. STOOPS AND MS. BRAD BRADLEY ARE NOW HEADING UP A NEW COMMITTEE WHO WILL COMPLETE OR CREATE A NEW COMPREHENSIVE FIVE-YEAR PLAN THAT IS DEVELOPED USING TOOLS SUCH AS SURVEYS, QUESTIONNAIRES, FOCUS GROUPS, AND RESEARCH USING INPUT FROM ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS.
WE DID NOT DO THAT WITH OUR TEMPORARY PLAN.
THE GOAL IS TO HAVE THAT PLAN COMPLETED NO LATER THAN DECEMBER OF 2025.
SO WE, UM, WE HOPE WE WILL BE BACK IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE NEED.
AS PART OF OUR PLANNING FOR PRL, WE ARE BUILDING A ONE YEAR CALENDAR OF REGULAR EVENTS THROUGHOUT A NORMAL YEAR.
OUR STANDING COMMITTEES, THE FINANCE, THE PERSONNEL, AND THE, UM, AUDIT COMMITTEE ARE HELPING WITH THIS PROCESS AS, UH, THE STAFF AND THE BOARD.
THAT WILL THEN BE SOMETHING WE HOPE IT CAN CARRY OVER FROM YEAR TO YEAR.
SO WE REALLY HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT'S, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
WITH ALL THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, WE PUT PUT ON HOLD THE MAJOR WORK ON UPDATING OF OUR PRL POLICIES, WHICH IS ANOTHER RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BOARD.
WE ARE RESTARTING OUR CONCENTRATED F WORK ON THIS, ON THE POLICIES THIS MONTH.
SO WE, WE ARE GETTING BACK ON BOARD WITH THAT PRL STAFF.
BESIDES CONDUCTING THE EVERYDAY WORK OF THE LIBRARIES, HAS BEEN WORKING TIRELESSLY TO UPDATE OUR PRL WEBSITE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE NEEDED DOCUMENTATION IS THERE.
IT, IT HASN'T BEEN, BUT IT WILL BE.
AND TO MAKE THE SITE MUCH MORE USER FRIENDLY, THEY ARE ALSO WORKING WITH THE DATA COLLECTION, THE DATA COLLECTION COMPANY WITH WHOM PRL HAS A CONTRACT NAMED ORANGE
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BOY.UM, IT'S A COMPANY OUT OF OHIO THAT, UM, COLLECTS OUR DATA AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO REALLY AN ANALYZE THE DATA THAT WE HAVE TO DETERMINE AREAS WHERE WE'RE EXCEEDING, EXCELLING IN AREAS WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE PRL.
ANOTHER ITEM THAT PRL STAFF, JAMIE AND SHE IN PARTICULAR, UM, HAVE DONE, IS THEY PUT TOGETHER AN INCREDIBLE ORIENTATION TRAINING MANUAL.
AND, UM, WE CONDUCTED THE FIRST TRAINING OF ONE OF OUR NEW, UM, BOARD MEMBERS WITH USING THIS.
AND IT WAS AN EXCELLENT, IT'S AN EXCELLENT DOCUMENT.
WE ARE VERY EXCITED THAT THERE ARE SOME GREAT FUTURE PLANS TO PRL.
ONE OF THESE IS AN ITEM, UM, A DIS FOR DISTRIBUTION LOCKERS FOR, UM, AFTER HOURS PICKUP FOR CHECKED OUT BOOKS AND MATERIALS AND GLAND IS TO BE ONE OF THE, UM, THE PILOT SITES FOR THIS.
IN FACT, THEY'RE PLANNING ON BRINGING THIS LOCKER THIS NEXT WEEK, AND WE WILL SEE HOW THIS, HOW IT FUNCTIONS FOR US.
AND I, JAMIE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT IT OR, NO, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND ALSO TO EXPLORE OTHER POSSIBILITIES ABOUT, UM, LOCKER, POTENTIALLY LOCATIONS AND OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY TO PROVIDE JUST TO, UM, EXPANDED SERVICE THAT WAY.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP, HOPEFULLY TO BE IMPLEMENTED, UH, THIS FALL.
UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE HOW IT GOES.
THIS HAS BEEN KIND OF A BROAD STROKE OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN.
IF WE CAN'T ANSWER 'EM TODAY, WE WILL MAKE SURE WE GET ANSWERS TO YOU.
SO, I GUESS I OPENED IT UP AT THIS POINT FOR QUESTIONS.
MR. CHAIR, MR. SPIN HILL, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.
I WANNA FIRST START BY, UH, THANKING, UM, YOU AND MS. SLOAN FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THIS.
AND JUST, UM, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A TOPIC THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO OUR CITIZENS, AND IT GETS A LOT OF TENSION AS IT SHOULD.
SO THANK YOU FOR GAINING IN THE GAP FOR US AND, AND CREATING A LIBRARY SYSTEM, AS YOU CAN SEE, AS, AS TUTES SHARED, IS GETTING A LOT OF USE.
AND, AND FOLKS FIND IT IMPORTANT.
THE QUESTION I HAVE, AS YOU KNOW, IT IS DIFFICULT BEING AN APPOINTEE SOMETIMES.
UM, BUT, SO THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE FOR YOU IS, WHAT CAN OUR BOARD BE DOING TO SUPPORT YOU, UM, AND THE POKY LIBRARY BESIDES FOR MONEY? 'CAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S IMPORTANT.
UM, I WILL SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP WITH IN A MEETING, AND WE TALKED WITH VIC AND I, UH, ARE, UH, THE THREE OF US TALKED ABOUT THIS, UM, RECENTLY, AND THAT IS THAT, UM, I KNOW THAT THE REASON THAT MONEY WASN'T COMING RIGHT AT THE, UM, BEGINNING OF THE QUARTER WAS BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE AUDITS.
AND I'M, I'M HOPING THAT NOW THAT THE AUDITS ARE ON TARGET WHERE THEY SHOULD BE, THAT HOPEFULLY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT DOWN THE ROAD.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, I, I WANT TO ITERATE WHAT, UH, UH, SUPERVISOR SPOONER SAID, AND THANK YOU.
I, I, UM, GREW UP AS A LIBRARY RAT INSTEAD OF A GYM RAT.
AND SO, UH, I HAVE GREAT AFFECTION APPRECIATION FOR THE LIBRARY SYSTEM.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT AS TO WHY SOME OF THE COUNTIES ARE OPTING TO NOT PARTICIPATE IN THE REGIONAL LIBRARY? I SEE SUCH GREAT VALUE IN IT, AND I DON'T WANNA PROJECT MY VALUE SYSTEM ON OTHERS, BUT IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVANGELIZE AND PERHAPS BRING SOME THAT HAVE STRAYED BACK INTO THE FOLD OR, OR HOW, HOW MIGHT WE APPROACH AND TRULY KEEP IT A REGIONAL EFFORT? YES, THERE ARE ADVANTAGE OR AT OPPORTUNITIES FOR US.
IN FACT, UM, UH, JAMIE AND I ARE, UM, IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO SET UP A MEETING WITH KING WILLIAM CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR.
WE HAD ONE SET UP, AND THEN WHEN THEIR ADMINISTRATOR LEFT, THEY ASKED US TO POSTPONE THAT MEETING.
SO WE HAVE NOT MET WITH THEM YET.
UM, I DO KNOW WHEN KING, WE, KING AND QUEEN LEFT, THEY LEFT FOR PURELY FINANCIAL REASONS.
THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY SAID THAT THEY COULDN'T, THEY COULDN'T AFFORD IT.
I, I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S STILL, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE REALIZING THAT THAT'S PROBABLY WASN'T THE BEST CHOICE.
UM, WE'RE HOPING THAT WITH KING WILLIAM, THAT WE CAN, UM, WE CAN SHARE WITH THEM THE STRONG ADVANTAGES TO STAYING WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
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UH, AGAIN, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS OUR HOPE, UM, WITH KING WILLIAM.UM, I'VE HEARD SEVERAL DIFFERENT REASONS WHY THEY, UM, THEY FEEL LIKE THAT THEY SHOULD LEAVE.
UH, THEY'RE NOT, IT, IT, I HEAR ONE THING FROM ONE PERSON AND ONE THING FOR ANOTHER PERSON, FINANCIAL.
UM, SOME, I'VE HEARD COMMENTS ABOUT SOME OF THE BOOKS THAT ARE IN THE LIBRARY.
UM, BUT I'VE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING DIFFERENT ANSWERS FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE.
AND THAT IS THAT, UM, SORRY,
UM, I DO HAVE ONE COMMENT, AND THAT IS THAT WE FREQUENTLY HEAR, AND I'M SURE Y'ALL DO TOO, UM, CRAZY, CRAZY RUMORS ABOUT BANNING AND CENSORSHIP AND ALL THIS KIND OF STUFF.
AND I WOULD JUST URGE Y'ALL TO, UH, POINT YOUR CONSTITUENTS BACK TO US, OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS TO COME TO US AND JUST URGE THEM TO, TO FOCUS ON THE FACTS AND NOT THE RUMORS ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE LIBRARY.
BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY PEOPLE, I SAY, WELL, WHY ARE YOU BANNING BOOKS AND WHY ARE YOU, WHY IS THE BOARDS SELECTING THESE BOOKS? I SAID, OKAY, WAIT A MINUTE,
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE YOU TO JUST PLEASE COME TO US ANYTIME AND WE WILL TRY TO KEEP AN OPEN DIALOGUE WITH YOU ABOUT ALL OF IT AND JUST FOCUS ON THE FACTS.
I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK REQUEST AS MUCH AS A QUESTION.
UM, I LOVE THE WORK THAT THE LIBRARY IS DOING.
UH, TO THE EXTENT THERE CAN BE OUTREACH TO THE EASTERN END OF THE COUNTY, SO DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE, THAT WOULD ALWAYS BE WELCOME.
AND, UM, I THINK A, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF CITIZENS IN THOSE DISTRICTS DON'T, UM, HAVE THE WONDERFUL EXPOSURE OR EXPERIENCE TO THE, UH, COURTHOUSE THAT, UM, DISTRICTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE DO.
SO ANY WAYS TO REACH OUT TO THEM IS APPRECIATED.
MR. MR. WINFREY, I MEAN, WHAT I'M HEARING IS A VERY POSITIVE REPORT FROM YOU ALL, AND I JUST COMMEND YOU AND THANK YOU.
IT LOOKS LIKE THINGS ARE SETTLING DOWN.
AND YES, I COMMEND THE STAFF AS WELL AS THE BOARD WHO'S HUNG IN HERE THROUGH SOME CONTROVERSY OR WHATEVER.
AND, AND I KNOW LOSING YOUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND SO FORTH, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THINGS ON THE RIGHT TRACK, THE AUDITS AND SO FORTH, AND HOPE THEY DON'T FIND TOO MUCH
BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR HANGING IN THERE.
UH, WE'LL, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO THE,
[2. VDOT - August 2024]
UH, VDOT REPORT.I'LL ASK MR. MARSHALL WIND PRESENT THAT REPORT TO THE BOARD.
UH, ALL OTHER REPORTS ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
UH, MR. WYNN, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER MARSHALL WYNN WITH VDOT, UH, THIS PAST MONTH WE HAD 150 WORK ORDERS AND COMPLETED 134 HAD EIGHT, UH, AFTER OUR CALL OUTS, ALL OF 'EM WERE TREES DOWN IN THE ROAD DUE TO SOME STORMS. WE HAD, UH, THIS PAST MONTH WE'VE BEEN DOING ASPHALT AND POTHOLE REPAIR AS USUAL PIPE, UH, REPLACEMENT AND CLEANING, UH, DITCH AND SHOULDER REPAIRS AND CLEANING, UH, TREE AND BRUSH REMOVAL AND CLEAN UP.
UH, DID COMPLETE THE THIRD CYCLE OF PRIMARY MOWING, UM, JUST LAST WEEK.
AND WE PLAN ON STARTING THE SECONDARY, UH, SECOND CYCLE OF SECONDARY MOWING, UH, MONDAY.
SO THAT SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE CYCLE, UH, FOR THIS YEAR.
OTHER THAN THAT, I, I REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO REPORT UNLESS Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS, MR. WHI? MR. LOCK, UH, I, I AM GOING TO ASK IF THIS WAS A VDOT INITIATIVE WITH THE HERBICIDES ALONG THE, UH, ROADWAYS.
I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF CONSTITUENTS ON HERMITAGE ROAD, EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THE HERBICIDE WAS PUT ON THEIR PROPERTY AND NOT ON THE RIGHT OF WAY.
IS THERE SOME SCHEDULE THAT YOU KNOW OF THAT WE CAN BE SHARED WITH THE CITIZENS AND IF THE CITIZENS WERE TO PUT UP MARKINGS OF SOME SORT THAT SAID, THIS IS NOT RIGHT AWAY, THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY, DO NOT SPRAY, UH, IS THERE SOME WAY TO AMELIORATE THAT SITUATION WHERE PRIVATE PROPERTY IS BEING SPRAYED WITH THE HERBICIDE? YEAH, I KNOW USUALLY WE DO THE BUD INHIBITOR IS WHAT IT'S CALLED, UM, A YEAR AFTER WE DO LEMING ON CERTAIN ROADS AND EVERYTHING.
UH, BUT I CAN CERTAINLY GET WITH YOU LATER TO, TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THAT IF YOU'D LIKE.
I, I, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
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AND SO I'M GETTING THESE CALLS.THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UH, WITHOUT GOING INTO THE TMI, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WALK ALONG MANNEQUIN ROAD FROM, UH, DOVER HALL DOWN TOWARDS SATELLITES, AND THOSE DITCHES COULD USE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE ON THE DITCHING OR, OR CLEAN UP SCHEDULE, BUT PARTICULARLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF MANNEQUIN, THERE'S A REAL HEALTHY, UH, GROWTH GOING ON.
AND, AND THOSE DITCHES ARE GETTING PRETTY FLAT.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S MUCH DITCH TO 'EM ANYMORE.
SO IS THAT ON THE SCHEDULE OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE NORTH SIDE OF, UH, MANNEQUIN FROM STREET? I'M, WELL, I'M GOING WEST TOWARDS THE COURTHOUSE.
THE NORTH SIDE WOULD, UH, I'M GONNA CALL IT THE WEST SIDE.
HEADING, HEADING TOWARDS THE COURTHOUSE.
UH, THAT DITCH OR THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD PARTICULARLY IS, IS OKAY.
AND I KNOW AS YOU GET TO HERMIT EACH ROAD IN MANNEQUIN, THAT IS A LOW WATER ENVIRONMENT AND I DON'T KNOW IF NOT HAVING A DITCH WOULD HELP OR HURT THAT, BUT, UM, I, I JUST SHARE THAT FROM FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WALKING ALONG THAT ROAD.
AND, UH, I WILL, I HAVE SHARED THAT WITH YOU.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, MR. SPINNER? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
UM, HEY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, MR. WYNN.
UH, LAST MONTH I HAD, UM, BROUGHT UP A CITIZEN CONCERN ABOUT THE, UH, GRASS ENCROACHING ON ROCK CASTLE FROM 1463 TO WESTVIEW ROAD, AND WE WERE GONNA LOOK INTO IT.
I GOT AN EMAIL FROM HER ON SUNDAY SAYING IT HASN'T BEEN TOUCHED YET.
UH, DO ANY BOARD MEMBERS WISH TO REPORT ON ANY REGIONAL BOARDS THAT THEY'RE SERVING ON MR. SPOONER? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
UM, AND THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING.
SO I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT REAL QUICKLY ABOUT, UM, THE, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE, THESE COMMITTEES.
UH, WITH MOST OF OUR REGIONAL BOARDS, WE ARE ASSIGNED VOTES BASED ON OUR POPULATION.
AND BEING ONE OF THE SMALLEST POPULATIONS MEANS WE GET VERY LITTLE VOTES, WHICH MEANS WHAT WE SAY CARRIES LITTLE WEIGHT.
UM, SO THE BENEFIT OF, AND, AND HISTORICALLY UP TILL NOW AND CBT A IS GOING INTO ITS FOURTH YEAR, WE'VE HAD MOSTLY THE LARGER LOCALITIES WHICH CARRY THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTES.
UM, TAKE, UH, BEING VOTED INTO THE LEADERSHIP POSITIONS, UM, I'M VERY, I I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THOSE LOCALITIES.
IT'S HOW I FIT TO, UH, UM, MY, MY TO VOTE MYSELF.
AND, UM, THE VICE CHAIR, UM, MR. MOORE FROM, UH, NEW KID COUNTY, AS WELL AS MR. GOEN IN THESE COMMITTEES, ALL OF OUR VOTES ARE EQUAL.
SO IT'S, IT'S A MUCH MORE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.
AND OF COURSE, MOST THINGS HAVE TO BE VOTED ON BY THE FULL COMMISSION, BUT DO CARRY THE WEIGHT OF EACH COMMITTEE.
SO THIS DOES GIVE BLAND A LOT MORE SAY IN, IN WHAT'S GOING.
AND AGAIN, I, IT DOES SPEAK TO THAT REGIONAL PARTNERSHIP THAT THEY'RE THE LARGER LOCALITIES ARE WILLING TO, TO, UH, TO INCLUDE THE SMALLER LOCALITIES.
THANK YOU, MR. THANK YOU, MR. BOHO.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA.
[X. Consent Agenda]
I WILL ASK[1. Request to set public hearing for November 6, 2024, to consider an ordinance amending County Code Sec. 14-251 (Tuckahoe Creek Service District) to remove from the service district a parcel located at 655 Monacan Drive, identified as Tax Map No. 63-4-0-7-0]
MR. CARPENTER[2. Request to initiate and refer to the Planning Commission an amendment to Zoning Ordinance (County Code Chapter 15), Sec. 15-421 (Sign regulation by zoning districts or location) and Sec. 15-500 (Definitions) to adjust signage for office and industrial parks]
TO SUMMARIZE THE ITEMS UNDER CONSENT,[3. Authorization for County Administrator to execute a Memorandum of Understanding with the Monacan Soil and Water Conservation District]
AND THEN WE'LL SEEK A MOTION EITHER AS A GROUP OR TAKE[4. Authorization for County Administrator to execute an amendment to the Special Project Service Agreement for Used Oil, Oil filters and Antifreeze Collection, Transportation, and Processing Services]
INDIVIDUALLY.[5. Approval of the Amended Goochland Powhatan Community Services FY2024 & FY2025 Performance Contract with the Virginia Department of Behavioral Health and Developmental Services]
MR. GOVERNOR.[6. Resolution amending the Fiscal Year 2025 Goochland County Budget by budgeting and appropriating $38,824 in the County General Fund for the Department of Fire Programs Aid to Localities grant]
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.TONIGHT WE HAVE SEVEN ITEMS ON
[7. Resolution requesting the Virginia Department of Transportation accept Mosaic at West Creek Section 2A subdivision streets into the Secondary System of State Highways for Maintenance]
THE CONSENT AGENDA.ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE BOARD HAS REQUESTED TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER 6TH TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO AFFECT THE REMOVAL OF 6 5 5 MONICA DRIVE FROM THE TCSD.
THE PROPERTY MEETS ALL THE CRITERIA REQUIRED FOR REMOVAL, AND AFTER IT'S LEAVING THE NET VALUE OF GROWTH IN THE TCSD WILL STILL BE OVER $2 MILLION.
ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE BOARD HAS REQUESTED TO REFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AND ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, ALLOWING BUSINESSES AND INDUSTRIAL PARKS TO HAVE THEIR NAMES OR LOGOS AFFIXED TO THE PARK SIGN, AS WELL AS TO ALLOW A SIGN ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
ITEM THREE, THE BOARD IS REQUESTED TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE AN MOU WITH A MONICA AND SOIL AND WATER COMMISSION, WHICH EXPIRES THIS WEEK.
THE ONLY CHANGE IN THE MOU IS TO EXTEND THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT FROM TWO TO FOUR YEARS.
ITEM FOUR, THE BOARD WAS REQUESTED TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE A SERVICE AGREEMENT AMENDMENT WITH THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA WASTE MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR THE CONTINUED COLLECTION, TRANSPORTATION, AND PROCESSING OF USED OIL, OIL FILTERS AND ANTIFREEZE.
THE TERM WILL RUN FOR FIVE YEARS WITH ONE FIVE YEAR EXTENSION POSSIBLE.
ITEM FIVE, THE BOARD HAS REQUESTED TO APPROVE THE AMENDED FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 20 25 PERFORMANCE CONTRACT BETWEEN GUCCI AND PALIN COMMUNITY SERVICES AND THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES.
THIS APPROVAL IS REQUIRED BY STATE LAW.
ONLY MODIFICATIONS ARE THOSE CAUSED BY CHANGES TO STATE LAW IN THE LAST SESSION OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY.
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SIX, THE BOARD HAS REQUESTED TO BUDGET AND APPROPRIATE DEPARTMENT OF FIRE PROGRAMS ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $38,824 TO THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT'S FISCAL YEAR 2025 GENERAL FUND BUDGET.THE ORIGINAL BUDGET REFLECTED A GRANT OF 87,900, WHILE THE ACTUAL GRANT RECEIVED WAS $126,724.
AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, THE HAS REQUESTED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION REQUESTING THAT THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION ACCEPT A TOTAL OF 0.2 TENTHS OF A MILE OF MOSAIC CREEK BOULEVARD IN MOSAIC AT WEST CREEK SUBDIVISION SECTION TWO A INTO THE SECONDARY SYSTEM OF STATE HIGHWAYS FOR MAINTENANCE.
THAT IS A CONSENT AGENDA, MR. CHAIR.
UH, SUPERVISORS, DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA? UH, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE CON CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH SEVEN AS PRESENTED.
OPPOSED? NO, THE MOTION PASSES.
WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS.
UH, WE HAVE TWO SEPTEMBER REAPPOINTMENTS TO MAKE, UH, FIRST TO THE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.
[XI. New Business]
REAPPOINTMENT OF FRANK WILSON FOR[1. September Appointments]
A THREE YEAR TERM AFFECTED OCTOBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027.AND FOR THE RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION, WE HAVE THE REAPPOINTMENT OF LAVERNE JOHNSON FOR A TWO YEAR TERM EFFECTIVE NOVEMBER 1ST, 2024 THROUGH OCTOBER 31ST, 2026.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED A SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? THE EMPLOYEES HERE SO WE CAN TAKE HIM IN PERSON.
GIVEN THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, LET'S GO TO A VOTE.
UM, THAT TAKES US THROUGH THE END OF OUR AGENDA FOR THE AFTERNOON SESSION.
WE WILL NOW RECESS INTO OUR 6:00 PM BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
[XII. Dinner Break/Recess: 5:00 PM: The Board of Supervisors will have dinner with the Parks and Recreation Department and Recreation Advisory Commission for the Wall of Fame Induction and Recognition of Mr. Wayne Dementi in the Goochland Sports Complex Gym.]
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL HAVE DINNER WITH THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE WALL OF FAME INDUCTION AND RECOGNITION OF MR. WAYNE DEMENT IN THE GLAND SPORTS COMPLEX GYM.[XIII. 6:00 PM - Chair Calls Meeting Back to Order]
WELCOME.WE'LL NOW RECONVENE THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING OF THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
WE WILL START WITH TWO RESOLUTIONS.
[1. Presentations of Resolution of Recognition]
THE FIRST IS A RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING MR. WAYNE[RESOLUTION RECOGNIZING MR. WAYNE DEMENTI UPON HIS INDUCTION INTO THE GOOCHLAND COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION WALL OF FAME]
MENTI FOR HIS YEARS OF SERVICE TO GLAND COUNTY.MS. SITZ WILL READ THE RESOLUTION, THEN I WILL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WILL MR. MENTE PLEASE? OH, WAIT, NO.
WILL MR. DIY PLEASE JOIN ME UP FRONT.
WHEREAS MR. WAYNE DEMENT HAS DEMONSTRATED LONG LONGSTANDING DEDICATION AND HUMANITARIAN COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS OF GLAND COUNTY.
AND WHEREAS MR. MENTEE HAS SERVED IN NUMEROUS LEADERSHIP ROLES WITHIN GLAND COUNTY, INCLUDING PRESIDENT OF THE ROTARY CLUB OF GLAND, PRESIDENT OF GLAND FELLOWSHIP AND FAMILY SERVICES, PRESIDENT OF THE GLAND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND PRESIDENT OF THE GLAND HISTORICAL SOCIETY.
AND WHEREAS MR. DETE FACILITATED THE MERGER OF GLAND FELLOWSHIP AND FAMILY SERVICES AND GLAND FREE CLINIC TO BECOME GLIN CARES.
AND AS THE INAUGURAL BOARD PRESIDENT LED THE NEW ORGANIZATION TO BETTER SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS MR. MENTEE PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN FOUNDING TUCKER PARK AND FRIENDS OF GLAND PARKS CONTRIBUTING TO THE ENHANCEMENT OF LOCAL RECREATIONAL SPACES.
AND WHEREAS MR. MENTEE LED THE PROJECT AND A $500,000 CAMPAIGN TO RESTORE THE GLAND COURTHOUSE GREEN PRESERVING THE COUNTY'S HISTORICAL HERITAGE.
AND WHEREAS MR. DEMENT CO-AUTHORED THE BOOK FACTS AND LEGENDS OF GLAND COUNTY ENRICHING THE COMMUNITY'S UNDERSTANDING OF ITS HISTORY.
AND WHEREAS MR. DEMENT FOUNDED GLAND PET LOVERS AND LED A $1.5 MILLION CAPITAL CAMPAIGN TO BUILD THE ADOPTION WING OF THE GLAND ANIMAL SHELTER.
AND WHEREAS MR. MENTEE'S LEADERSHIP AND EFFORTS HAVE LEFT A LASTING IMPACT ON
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GLAND COUNTY, INCLUDING CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER, EXERCISE TRAIL, DISC GOLF COURSE, AND TUCKER PARK.AND WHEREAS THE GLAND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION HAS ENDORSED MR. MENTE FOR INDUCTION INTO THE GLAND COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION WALL OF FAME.
NOW, THEREFORE, THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES HEREBY RECOGNIZE WAYNE MENTEE FOR HIS EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO THE RESIDENTS OF GLAND COUNTY AND ENDORSES HIS INDUCTION INTO THE PARKS AND RECREATION WALL OF FAME MOTION.
I WANT TO ENTHUSIASTICALLY MAKE THE MOTION TO MY FRIEND.
WHERE IS HE? IS MY FRIEND APPROVE THE THIS RESOLUTION.
MR. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? JUST A GIANT THANK YOU.
THE NEXT RESOLUTION IS, OH, WE'LL, WE WILL WAIT A MINUTE FOR THOSE EXITING.
THE NEXT RESOLUTION IS RECOGNIZING RETIRED CLERK OF THE GLAND COUNTY COMBINED GENERAL DISTRICT COURT.
DIANE WHITE, MS. MS WILL READ THE RESOLUTION, THEN I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WILL MS. WHITE PLEASE JOIN ME ON THE FLOOR CHAIR, SECTION
WHEREAS DIANE HENLEY WHITE, A DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANT, RETIRED AS CLERK OF THE GLAND COUNTY COMBINED DISTRICT COURT ON JULY 31ST, 2024, AFTER 44 YEARS OF EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND WHEREAS DIANE HENLEY WHITE STARTED SERVING THE CITIZENS OF GLAND COUNTY AND THE TREASURER'S OFFICE FROM 1978 TO 1980.
AND WHEREAS DIANE HENLEY WHITE BEGAN WORKING AS A DEPUTY CLERK OF THE GLAND COMBINED COURT ON JUNE 5TH, 1980, UNDER THE THEN CLERK VIRGINIA BRADLEY THEN BECAME CLERK OF THE GLAND COMBINED DISTRICT COURT ON APRIL 1ST, 1988.
AND WHEREAS DIANE HENLEY WHITE IS AN HONEST AND DEDICATED PUBLIC SERVANT WHO STRIVE FOR EXCELLENCE IN ALL OF HER ENDEAVORS, AND WHOSE PRIMARY CONCERN WAS THE EFFICIENT FUNCTIONING OF THE G AND COMBINED DISTRICT COURT.
AND WHEREAS DIANE HENLEY WHITE SHINED IN HER ROLE, INTERFACING WITH THE PUBLIC, FIELDING QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND DIRECTING THEM TO THE APPROPRIATE RESOURCES ALWAYS IN A FRIENDLY, TIMELY, AND PROFESSIONAL MANNER.
AND WHEREAS DIANE HENLEY WHITE HAS SERVED WITH HONOR AND DISTINCTION WITH THE GLAND COMBINED DISTRICT COURT AND HER VISION AND UNYIELDING COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE HAVE SET THE STANDARD FOR PUBLIC SERVICE.
AND WHEREAS IT IS ABUNDANTLY FITTING AND PROPER THAT THE OUTSTANDING ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THIS REMARKABLE AND DISTINGUISHED GLAND COUNTY CITIZEN BE APPROPRIATELY RECOGNIZED.
AND NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED BY THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT THEY HEREBY COMMEND DIANE HENLEY WHITE ON THE OCCASION OF HER RETIREMENT AS CLERK OF THE GLAND COUNTY COMBINED DISTRICT COURT AND ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS OF GLAND COUNTY, EXPRESSED TO HER THE DEEP APPRECIATION FOR HER DECADES OF SERVICE AND BE IT RESOLVED FURTHER THAT THE
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CLERK OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PREPARE A COPY OF THIS RESOLUTION FOR PRESENTATION TO DIANE HENLEY WHITE AS A WRITTEN MEMORIAL OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS RECOGNITION AND SINCERE EXPRESSION OF THE COMMUNITY'S APPRECIATION TO DIANE HENLEY WHITE FOR HER COMMITMENT TO SERVING THE RESIDENTS OF GLAND COUNTY AND TO EXTEND BEST WISHES TO HER ON HER WELL EARNED RETIREMENT.MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THE, THE BOARD OF GOODLAND SUPERVISORS APPROVED RESOLUTION, RECOGNIZING MS. DIANE HENLEY WHITE.
OKAY, WELL EARNED RECOGNITION.
[2. Goochland Pet Lovers Report]
NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS THE PRESENTATION OF A REPORT FROM GLAND PET LOVERS DR. LORI ELLIOTT WILL PRESENT.THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE AND JUST, UH, GET A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESHER ON GLAND PET LOVERS.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A VERY FINE NIGHT TO DO THAT CONSIDERING, UH, YOUR HONOR OF MR. MENTE, UM, ALONG WITH TOM WINFREY.
UM, REALLY KEY IN OUR ORGANIZATION STARTING AND BECOMING THE SUCCESSFUL ORGANIZATION THAT WE ARE TODAY.
RIGHT NOW I AM THE BOARD CHAIR OF, UM, THE GLAND PET LOVERS, AND I'M ALSO THE SUPERVISING VET AT THE SHELTER.
SO I WEAR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT HATS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ABOUT GLAND COUNT, UH, GLAND PET LOVERS, I'D LIKE TO JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK, UM, A QUICK, UH, STORY ON THAT.
WE BEGAN ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, UM, OLD, THE OLD SHELTER WAS CITED FOR, UM, VIOLATIONS OF STATE CODE STARTED TO BE CONFINED.
THEN COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR BECKY DIXON, UM, DREAMED BIG ABOUT IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT MAYBE BUILD A LITTLE SHELTER, MAYBE TWICE THE SIZE OF THE OLD 2000 SQUARE FOOT SHELTER.
SHE SAW IT, UM, AS, AS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A SHINING STAR IN GOODLAND COUNTY.
AND THE WAY TO DO THAT, SHE FELT, WAS TO HAVE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
AND SO, UM, SHE, THE COUNTY ACTUALLY HAD TWO VERSIONS OF THAT SHELTER DRAWN UP BY THE ARCHITECT.
ONE WAS JUST THE SHELTER PORTION AND ONE, ONE WAS THE SHELTER AND ADOPTION CENTER PORTION THAT YOU SEE TODAY.
IF PRIVATE FUNDING WAS TO BE BECOME AVAILABLE, WE COULD BUILD THE WHOLE THING.
SO IN 2016, BECKY WAS FIGHTING TERMINAL CANCER AND SHE HAD HAD LOTS OF MEETINGS WITH WAYNE AND A FEW OF THE OTHER FOLKS, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY AND ENLISTED HIS SUPPORT AND HIS HELP TO DEVELOP WHAT BECAME GLAND PET LOVERS.
UM, 16 PEOPLE WERE INVITED BY BECKY TO THAT FIRST MEETING.
TOM WILL REMEMBER THAT AT, UH, BELLA, CECILIA AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US SIGNED UP.
AND, UM, AND, AND WANTED TO DO THAT PARTLY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND PARTLY FOR BECKY.
'CAUSE SHE REALLY PULLED US ALL TOGETHER.
IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS, WE, UM, SURPASSED WHAT THE COUNTY HAD ASKED ABOUT 1.25 MILLION.
AS, AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, I THINK WE HIT ABOUT 1.5 MILLION.
AND WE ALL HAD SUCH A GOOD TIME.
WE SEEMED TO BE SUCCESSFUL AT RAISING MONEY, COMING AS AN ORGANIZATION THAT DIDN'T HAVE ANY BACKGROUND AND, AND STILL BEING ABLE TO FULFILL WHAT WE HAD PROMISED.
WE DECIDED TO TRY TO FIND SOME OTHER WAYS TO FUNDRAISE TO HELP OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THE FIRST WAS, UH, MEDICAL FUND.
ALL OF THE ANIMALS THAT COME INTO THE SHELTER, UM, GET BASIC VACCINATIONS FROM THE COUNTY, BUT WE PROVIDE FUNDING FOR ANYTHING ELSE THEY NEED THAT MIGHT BE EMERGENCY CARE.
SOME OF YOU MIGHT REMEMBER PEARL A DOG WHO HAD BEEN SHOT AFTER GETTING SOME CHICKENS IN, IN SOMEBODY'S YARD.
AND, UH, KIND OF MADE THE NEWS STORY.
IT KIND OF HIGHLIGHTED WHAT WE DO AT THE SHELTER.
THAT DOG SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME AND FINANCES AT, UM, AT THE VRCC IN GOOCHLAND.
AND THEN BACK AT THE SHELTER WAS ADAPTED BY A VOLUNTEER AND IS LIVING A, A GREAT LIFE.
UM, WE WE'RE DOING WELL WITH THAT MEDICAL FUND AND THAT'S BEING UTILIZED EVERY DAY AND, AND DECIDED THAT WE SHOULD HELP THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT LESS FORTUNATE.
WE FOUND THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT CAN'T AFFORD TO TAKE PROPER CARE OF THEIR ANIMALS.
AND SO WE WANTED TO KIND OF MIRROR GLAND CARES ONLY FOR ANIMALS.
SO WE FORMED A GOOD NEIGHBOR OUTREACH AND WE HAVE BEEN, UM, UH, WORKING ON THE OUTREACH, HELPING FOLKS AT 200% OF POVERTY OR BELOW TAKING, UM, CARE OF THEIR ANIMALS AT FIRST JUST VACCINATIONS.
AND WE FOUND OUT THERE WAS A LOT OF CARE NEEDED BECAUSE THEY HADN'T BEEN GETTING GOOD NUTRITION AND, AND GETTING CARED FOR.
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DO HEARTWORM TESTING, HEARTWORM PREVENTION, FLEA AND TICK PREVENTION, SPAY AND NEUTER.WE INSIST ON, THAT'S PART OF OUR CRITERIA.
WE ALSO PURCHASE COUNTY LICENSES AND HAND THEM OUT TO THE FOLKS AFTER THEY'VE GOTTEN PROPER VACCINATIONS.
TRY TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITY IN GENERAL A LITTLE BIT HEALTHIER BY HELPING THOSE THAT THAT CAN'T, UM, CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES.
AND THEN, UM, IN THE LAST YEAR, WE'VE, WE'VE STARTED OUR THIRD KIND OF ARM OF OUTREACH, AND THAT IS OUR EDUCATION OUTREACH.
WE'RE VERY PROUD THAT THIS SCHOOL YEAR, UH, EVERY THIRD GRADE STUDENT IN ALL OF THE SCHOOLS IN GLAND COUNTY WILL HAVE SIX VISITS FROM OUR EDUCATION TEAM.
THEY'LL BE TEACHING A, A HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES CURRICULUM.
PART OF THAT CURRICULUM, UH, CALLED TEACHING KINDNESS.
AND IT RELATES TO HOW TO, TO WELL CARE FOR ANIMALS, BUT ALSO HOW TO CARE FOR EACH OTHER AND LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY AS AS A WHOLE.
THOSE KIDS WILL END THEIR SIXTH SESSION BY COMING THROUGH THE SHELTER AND GETTING A TOUR BY THE SHELTER STAFF AND, AND, UM, MAYBE GO HOME AND GET THEIR PARENTS TO COME BACK AND GET AN ANIMAL, UM, THERE.
AND AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS FROM GUCH AND PET LOVERS TO WAYNE.
UM, COULDN'T HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT HIM.
AND THANK YOU TO OUR GUCH AND PET LOVERS MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TODAY AS WELL.
[XIV. Citizen Comment]
WE WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.EACH SPEAKER MUST GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS.
CITIZENS ARE REMINDED THAT COMMENTS SHOULD BE ABOUT ITEMS NOT COVERED BY THE PUBLIC HEARINGS BEING HELD LATER TONIGHT.
COMMENTS SHOULD BE RESPECTFUL AND NO MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IN LENGTH.
SHOULD MULTIPLE CITIZENS WISH TO HAVE A COMMON SPEAKER, THEY MAY CEDE THEIR TIME IN TWO MINUTE INCREMENTS, UP TO A TOTAL ALLOTTED TIME OF 10 MINUTES PER BOARD'S RULES OF PROCEDURE SECTION 3.2, A REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME INTENDED TO NOT BE MORE THAN AN HOUR IS ALLOCATED FOR CITIZENS COMMENT.
MY NAME IS MICHELLE GARMAN, 4,003 ROYAL VIRGINIA LANE, LOUISA.
UM, AND I'M HERE TO ONCE AGAIN SAY THAT WE'RE NEARING HUNTING SEASON AND WE'VE HAD MANY ISSUES AT ROYAL VIRGINIA STATES OF PEOPLE HUNTING TOO CLOSE TO OUR PROPERTIES.
WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL CONCERN THAT I'VE SPOKE TO JONATHAN CHRISTIE ABOUT AND ALSO TO PAUL DRUMRIGHT.
OUR UNDERSTANDING IS SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE BUILDING A HUNTING LODGE ON A PROPERTY THAT'S, UH, IT BORDERS RURAL VIRGINIA, BUT IT'S LANDLOCKED.
AND WE JUST HAVE CONCERNS LIKE, WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GONNA HUNT? AND HOPEFULLY NOT NEXT TO OUR PROPERTY.
I'M GONNA CONCEDE SOME OF MY TIME TO TONY EMMA, AND HE KNOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.
YOU DON'T NEED TO SEE OH, OKAY.
TIME TO HIM IN THIS SITUATION.
I LIVE AT 3007 ROYAL VIRGINIA PARKWAY.
AND I JUST WANT TO PAY MY RESPECTS TO MR. DEPEN AND, UH, THE LADY WHO RETIRED FOR MAKING THIS COMMUNITY SO INCREDIBLE FOR US.
UM, SO I WAS MADE AWARE OF THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE WAS GONNA PUT A HUNT CLUB IN A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS, UM, THERE'S A DOLLAR GENERAL ON BROAD STREET, AND THEN THERE'S A CHURCH ON THE CORNER OF, OF, UH, UH, THE STREET.
AND THEN BACK IN THERE IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT THIS HUNT CLUB.
NOW WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET BACK THERE BECAUSE THEY'VE GATED IT OFF.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE ARE PROPERTIES OF THE ROYAL VIRGINIA ESTATES.
SO I, I CAN'T IMAGINE, UH, IT'S LANDLOCKED AND I, IT'S PROBABLY ABOUT A FIVE ACRE, SIX ACRE PIECE OF LAND, SO I DON'T KNOW THEY'RE GONNA PUT A HUNT CLUB IN THERE.
IT SOUNDS MENACING
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A COMMUNITY THAT WAS BUILT AROUND A GOLF COURSE.
AND WHEN I MOVED THERE IN 2012, IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES I'D EVER SEEN.
AND I'VE LIVED IN SOME REALLY NICE PLACES.
IT'S TURNED INTO MORE OF A WILD AREA.
BUT NOW, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY SINCE THEN AND TURNING IT INTO VARIOUS THINGS.
AND WE'VE HAD VARIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS WERE.
UM, NOW THAT THE, UH, HUNTERS ARE STARTING TO PROLIFERATE ON THE PROPERTIES
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THERE IS, I I HAVE TO BE HONEST ON MY PROPERTY, I'M OFF OF THE BEATEN PATH.THE HUNTERS HAVE NOT IMPEDED ME OR, OR MY FAMILY.
SOMETIMES THE DOGS COME ON THERE AND I HOLD THEM FOR THE, FOR THE HUNTERS AND THEY COME AND GET 'EM.
BUT THEY, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE ON THE FAIRWAYS THERE ARE, ARE MORE HUNTERS THAN THERE SHOULD BE AND THAT THEY ARE, UH, UH, ENCROACHING ON PROPERTIES.
NOW HOW FAR IN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I KNOW THEY'RE RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A A HUNDRED YARD, UH, RULE THAT HUNTERS HAVE TO BE A HUNDRED YARDS FROM A DWELLING TO HUNT TO DISCHARGE THEIR, THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE, UH, HONORED.
WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPERTY, WHERE THE CLUBHOUSE IS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT PROPERTY IS EVEN ALLOWED TO HAVE HUNTERS BASED ON WHATEVER THE DESIGNATION IS FOR IT.
THAT WAS THE ONE THAT WAS GONNA BE A COVID MEMORIAL AND THOSE PLANS HAVE BEEN DROPPED.
BUT, UM, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT, UH, WHAT THE INTENTIONS ARE, WHAT THIS HUNT CLUB MEANS, WHAT IS THERE GONNA BE, WHO'S GONNA HOLD A LIABILITY, IS, UH, HAVING THE STAND HUNT CLUB DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE.
AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE COMMUNITY? YOU KNOW, WE'RE A COMMUNITY BUILT AROUND A GOLF COURSE AND, AND NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
SO WE WOULD HOPE THAT YOU FOLKS WOULD JUST INVESTIGATE AND DO THE BEST JOB YOU CAN TO PROTECT OUR INTEREST.
I'M HERE TO BACK UP MICHELLE AND TONY.
UM, I WAS ADDRESSING, SORRY, WHAT'S THAT YOU ADDRESSING? OH 3 0 3 1 ROYAL VIRGINIA PARKWAY.
I AM VERY CLOSE TO THE, UH, CLUBHOUSE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ON THE GOLF COURSE.
I LIVE ON THE 10TH FAIRWAY OF THE GOLF COURSE.
UM, LAST FEBRUARY, UH, WE CAME HERE IN MARCH TO TELL YOU ABOUT THIS LAST FEBRUARY, I HAD TO GO OUT ON MY BACK DECK AND SCREAM AT ONE OF THE HUNTERS BECAUSE THERE WERE NINE HUNTERS IN THIS FAIRWAY THAT MAYBE IS A HUNDRED FEET ACROSS, IS NOT VERY WIDE.
I CAN SEE MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.
THERE WERE NINE HUNTERS COMING DOWN THROUGH THERE WITH SEVEN DOGS AND TWO CHILDREN.
AND THEY WERE THERE FOR, THEY HAD COME FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THEY WERE THERE FOR QUITE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A HALF AN HOUR.
AND THEY WERE PROBABLY LOOKING FOR RABBITS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY WERE HUNTING.
IT WAS THE LAST DAY OF HUNTING SEASON IN FEBRUARY.
UM, AND THEY STARTED TO SHOOT AND THEY SCARED MY HORSE SO BADLY, THEY WERE RIGHT NEXT TO MY PASTURE.
SO I WENT OUT ON THE DECK AND I YELLED, YOU'RE TOO CLOSE TO MY PASTURE.
AND THE GUY YELLED BACK AT US AND SAID, THIS IS NOT YOUR PROPERTY.
ANYWAY, MICHELLE LIVES IN THE WOODS RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE.
SO I STARTED TEXTING HER, THESE HUNTERS ARE RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE ON THE FAIRWAY.
ANYWAY, THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT THEY WERE SHOOTING ALL AFTERNOON, RIGHT THERE.
THERE'S TWO OTHER HOUSES THAT I CAN SEE THAT BETWEEN MY NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE AND MY HOUSE, IT MIGHT BE A HUNDRED YARDS, BUT THEY OWN HALF OF THAT PROPERTY.
THE 10TH FAIRWAY IS THIS MUCH, AND WE OWN THIS MUCH.
SO THESE HUNTERS WERE SO CLOSE TO MY PASTURE AND TO MICHELLE'S KITCHEN THAT I WAS SCARED FOR HER.
SO WE WERE TEXTING BACK AND FORTH AND, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS SCARY.
BUT THIS LASTED ALL AFTERNOON.
I CALLED THE SHERIFF, I FORGET WHICH SHERIFF I SPOKE TO.
AND, UM, HE SAID THAT GLAND DOESN'T HAVE ARTICLE 78, WHICH IS THE RULE, THE STATE RULE, I GUESS, THAT SAYS IN ORDER TO DISCHARGE A FIREARM, YOU NEED TO BE A HUNDRED YARDS FROM A DWELLING.
AND APPARENTLY WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN GLAND.
NOW I KNOW WE HAVE A TON OF HUNTERS AND EVERYBODY LOVES GUNS, BUT COULD WE LOOK INTO MAYBE HAVING SOME REGULATION ABOUT HOW CLOSE YOU CAN BE TO SOMEONE'S BACK DECK TO SHOOT AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE THE ANIMALS GO CRAZY? 'CAUSE MY HORSE WAS CRAZY THAT DAY AND IF IT NOW, THE HUNTING SEASON WAS OVER.
SO THE SHERIFF SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LUCKY.
THIS IS THE LAST DAY OF HUNTING SEASON.
WELL, WHAT DO WE DO NOW? IT'S BACK.
YOU KNOW, SO WE WANNA KNOW WHAT, HOW TO GO ABOUT THIS.
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UM, AND A LOT OF RABBITS IN THERE, AND PROBABLY EVERY OTHER BIRD YOU CAN THINK OF.THE POINT IS, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE.
IF THEY'RE MAKING A HUNT CLUB RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE I LIVE NOW, WHERE ARE WE STANDING? I MEAN, WHAT RIGHTS DO WE HAVE? I DON'T KNOW.
MY NAME'S STEVE LEVITT, UH, 70 36 BEN HALL CIRCLE.
I'VE STOOD BEFORE THIS BOARD AND NUMBER OF TIMES I'VE BEEN TO, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, COMMUNITY MEETINGS ABOUT THIS.
WE, WE'VE, WE'VE WANT TO ADVOCATE AND BE PART OF THIS COMMUNITY AND BE PART, I'M, I'M A VERY CONCERNED CITIZEN AND, AND I'M SURE THAT MY COMMENTS TONIGHT ARE PROBABLY GONNA BURN WHAT LITTLE CAPITAL AND GOODWILL I HAVE WITH THIS BOARD.
BUT I, I FEEL COMPELLED TO, TO SPEAK.
I I LEARNED THIS AFTERNOON THAT PROJECT ROCKY IS MOVING FORWARD.
18 1,851 TRACTOR TRAILERS PER DAY ON ASHLAND ROAD, PLUS A THOUSAND EMPLOYEE TRIPS PER DAY.
SIGNIFICANT DIESEL, PARTICULATE MATTER, AND ALL OF ITS ASSOCIATED HEALTH RISKS ARE, ARE FINE WITH YOU AS LONG AS THEY REMAIN IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTY.
WHAT GALLS ME THE MOST IS THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY WITH, WITH, WITH HOW THIS CO COUNTY OPERATES.
YOU, YOU ALL KNOW THAT I WAS AT THE FOREFRONT OF OPPOSING PROJECT ROCKY.
I SUPPORTED MY CONCLUSIONS WITH DOCTORS, NURSES, EDUCATORS, CITIZENS, AND OUR ARGUMENTS FELL ON DEAF EARS.
THE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE SIMPLY FOR SHOW.
THE DECISIONS ARE MADE BEFORE THE GAVEL IS EVEN BANGED.
AND IT, AND IT'S VERY, VERY DISCOURAGING.
IT'S NOT THE WAY THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD RUN YOU.
IT'S SO LACK OF TRA YOUR, YOUR, YOUR TRIPLE, TRIPLE BOND RATING.
IT, IT'S A FARCE BECAUSE NOBODY TALKS ABOUT THE HUGE AMOUNT OF DEBT IN YOUR SPECIAL TAX DISTRICT THAT WE CAN'T SEEM TO OVERCOME.
MY, MY DISTRICT FOUR REPRESENTATIVE WILL NOT ANSWER EMAILS OR ENGAGE ON ANY CONCERNS THAT I OR CONSTITUENTS HAVE.
THERE'S A PECKING ORDER IN OUR COUNTY, AND I'M AT THE BOTTOM OF IT, AND IT'S APPARENT.
PARKSIDE VILLAGE IS TO DISTRICT FOUR AS DISTRICT FOUR IS TO THE COUNTY.
I'VE BEEN A CITIZEN OF GLAND FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS, AND I'VE TRIED TO BE INVOLVED.
WE PAY OUR TAXES JUST LIKE YOU HAVING NO SAY OR INPUT IN THINGS WHICH CONCERN ME AND MY NEIGHBORS, IT'S DISGUSTING.
SHUTTING US OUT AND SHUTTING OUT PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE OR SEE DIFFERENT, SEE THINGS DIFFERENTLY OR A DIFFERENT PATH, IS A WAY THAT THIS COUNTY HAS ADOPTED.
AND THAT'S THE WAY THIS BOARD OPERATES.
THE COUNTY IS GONNA DO WHAT THE COUNTY IS GONNA DO, DO.
THESE MEETINGS ARE ABSOLUTELY USELESS FROM THE CONSTITUENT STANDPOINT.
YOUR DECISIONS ARE MADE BEFORE YOU EVEN OPEN THE MEETINGS.
AND IT, IT'S VERY, VERY DISCOURAGING ON ALL COUNTS.
MARGARET LEVITT, 70 36 BEN HALL CIRCLE, PARKSIDE VILLAGE IN THE NORTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE COUNTY.
THOUGH WE ARE RIGHT OVER THE LINE FROM HANOVER AND HENRICO, WE HAVE BEEN PROMOTING THE IDEA OF REGIONAL COOPERATION SINCE PRETTY MUCH WE GOT TO THE COUNTY.
SO A SOCIETY IS JUDGED BY HOW IT TREATS ITS MOST VULNERABLE.
A PERSON IS JUDGED BASED ON THEIR CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY.
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IT'S FITTING THAT CITIZENS FROM HENRICO ARE HERE FOR ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.THERE'S NO CHARGE TO ATTEND THE MEETING, BUT NO DOUBT THEY WILL WITNESS THE THEATER OF WHAT IS GLIN COUNTY GOVERNMENT.
AS FOR PROJECT ROCKY, THAT WILL AFFECT CITIZENS AND GUGLIN AND SURROUNDING COUNTIES, INCLUDING HENRICO AS MUCH, IF NOT MORE AS LUX STONE.
THOSE CHILDREN WHO WILL BE PLAYING ON THE PLAYGROUND AT KLEY ELEMENTARY WILL BE BREATHING IN THE PARTICULATE MATTER FROM THE TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT WILL BE NOSE TO NOSE IN FRONT OF THAT SCHOOL.
IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE ASHLAND ROAD.
THERE IS NO WAY ASHLAND ROAD, EVEN WHEN IT'S IMPROVED, WILL ACCOMMODATE THE 1,851 TRACTOR TRAILERS DAILY, 365 DAYS A YEAR, 24 7.
SO JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE HENRICO COUNTY CHILDREN, WE ALL HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO CHILDREN IN OUR SOCIETY.
YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO YOUR CITIZENS.
I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT, UH, I SHOULD NOT ENGAGE WITH ANY OTHER SUPERVISOR EXCEPT MY SUPERVISOR WHO WILL NOT ENGAGE THAT.
IT WOULD BE LIKE GOING FROM VIRGINIA TO MARYLAND.
SO I DO HOPE THAT YOU WILL HEAR THESE PEOPLE IN HENRICO WHO HAVE PREPARED, WHO ARE HERE WITH GOOD FAITH, BECAUSE YOU CERTAINLY HAVE NOT HEARD US ANY OTHER CITIZENS.
UH, I'M LARRY HEIN, UH, 1602 FAIRWAY CIRCLE, GARLAND, TEXAS.
AND, UH, I THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME OUT BEFORE, AND I'M GONNA KIND OF CONTINUE IN THREE MINUTE SEGMENTS.
UH, MY PURPOSE IS NOT TO GET MONEY FROM Y'ALL.
MY PURPOSE IS NOT TO COMPLAIN.
MY INTENT IS TO MAKE GLAND RETURN GLAND IN ONE OF THE TOP FIVE WEALTHIEST COUNTIES IN AMERICA.
THE, UH, OIL AND GAS, I BELIEVE WHAT? OR WELL, WELL UNDERSTOOD.
45, 46 YEARS AGO, IT WAS BEING EXPLORED FOR IN GLAND COUNTY.
I WAS PART OF THAT EXPLORATION EFFORT.
I BELIEVE THERE IS OIL AND GAS HERE, LARGE QUANTITIES OF IT.
COLISEUM GAS, VERY SIMILAR TO THE MARCHELLE SALE.
I HAVE TALKED TO AN OIL COMPANY.
THEY WOULD TELL ME IF THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED.
THEY WOULD NEVER TELL ME THAT THEY ARE BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, COMPETITION.
OKAY? I WAS AT THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL.
I HAVE TALKED TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
I'VE TALKED TO A WELL DRILLER.
WHAT KIND OF QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
FIRE DEPARTMENT SAID, HEY, COME ON IN.
TELL US ABOUT THIS HORIZONTAL DRILLING, HOW IT DOES, WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
WE COLLECTIVELY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MANAGE THIS.
IF WE GET AHEAD OF IT, IT'LL ONLY LAST MAYBE EIGHT MONTHS, LIKE BEFORE IT, IT IT, THESE LEASING PROGRAMS, THEY COME AND GO.
THE BRADFORD, THE DAISY BRADFORD, WELL, IN EAST TEXAS, THE LARGEST OIL FIELD IN AMERICA, 6,000 PEOPLE HAD OWNERSHIP.
NOT ONE OF 'EM MADE MONEY, NOT ONE OF THEM, INCLUDING DAISY BRADFORD MADE MONEY BECAUSE IT WAS MISMANAGED.
THEY, I MEAN, IT, IT WAS COUNTRY FOLKS AND THAT, IT JUST HAPPENS.
I WANT US TO MANAGE THIS AND MAKE, MAKE MONEY OUT OF IT.
MY GOAL IS TO HELP YOU, HELP US MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEBODY DRILLS HERE, 20% IS REMAINS IN GLAND COUNTY.
IF IT'S $10 BILLION UNDERNEATH US, WHICH THAT WOULD BE A LIGHT ESTIMATE, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO A HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS UNDERNEATH US.
WE WOULD WANT 20% TO STAY HERE.
WE'D WANT IT SPREAD ACROSS THE COUNTY.
IF WE DO IT AFTERWARDS, IT'S CALLED A TAKING AND IT'S A VERY LITIGIOUS AND WE DON'T WANT TO GO UP AGAINST LARGE OIL COMPANIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD BENEFIT HERE IN THIS COUNTY.
I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO COME BACK WITH UPDATES AS UM, AS PEOPLE ARE, A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO TAKE ME TO LUNCH.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT AND THANKS YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
ANY MORE CITIZENS? OKAY, SEEING NONE, I'LL
[XV. Public Hearings]
NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.UH, WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[1. District 3 - CU-2024-00015 Application by Beverly Thurston requesting to renew conditional use permit (CUP) case CU-2019-00001 for short-term rental, unhosted, on 31.16 acres at 2151 Sheppard Town Road on Tax Map No. 43-1-0-86-0. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 in accordance with Sec. 15-285.G. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]
IS, UH, CU DASH 2024 DASH 15 APPLICATION BY BEVERLY THURSTON REQUESTING TO RENEW CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENT RENTAL UNHOSTED ON 31.16 ACRES AT 2 1 5 1 SHE TOWN ROAD.MR. JOSH GILLESPIE IS PRESENTING GOOD EVENING CHAIR ERS, BOARD
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MEMBERS.AND MR. CARPENTER, THIS ITEM IS THE REQUESTED RENEWAL OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED FOR 31.16 ACRES AT 2151 SHEPPARD TOWN ROAD.
PROPERTY IS ZONED A TWO LOCATED IN THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE CENTRAL AREA OF THE COUNTY, SHOWN BY THE RED CIRCLE ON THE LEFT.
THE MAP ON THE LEFT, THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED ON THE AERIAL MAP ON THE RIGHT.
THE PROPERTY NORTH IS THE SUBJECT.
PROPERTY IS USED BY THE RUNNING MAYOR.
EVENT, VENUE, SUBJECT PROPERTY AND AREAS AND AREA PROPERTIES ARE ZONED AGRICULTURAL A TWO AS SHOWN ON THE MAP ON THE LEFT AND ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE COMPREHENSIVE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR RURAL ENHANCEMENT AND THE SITE HISTORY OF THE PROPERTY.
IN 2019, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WAS APPROVED FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED AND A PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTS TO RENEW THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL USE, BUT NOT THE PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY.
THIS APPLICATION REQUIRES NO CHANGES, UH, PHYSICAL CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY CONCEPT PLAN.
ON THE SCREEN SHOWS THE USES, UH, THE PRINCIPAL DWELLING, WHICH IS, UH, JUST TO THE, UH, JUST TO THE NORTH WHERE THE TREE LINE IS AND THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, WHICH IS THE SECOND STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY AS CURRENTLY CONDITIONED.
THIS USE, UH, AS PROPOSED IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING ON MAY 14TH, 2024.
ONCE CITIZEN ATTENDED SUPERVI AS WELL AS SUPERVISORS LY WINFREY, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON THE LENGTH OF THE RENEWAL, THE LENGTH OF STAYS, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OF THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, THE AFOREMENTIONED RUNNING MAYOR, UH, SPECIAL EVENT, AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, THAT WAS NOT BEING RENEWED, AND ADVERTISING OF THE RENTAL FOR SHORT TERM STAYS.
AT THE 18TH, PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A FIVE OH VOTE.
NO ONE SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS WERE DEVELOPED FOR THIS APPLICATION WITH BLACK LINES ON THE SCREEN AND IN YOUR REPORT AND RESOLUTION SHOWING CHANGES FROM THE 2019 CUP CHANGES WERE MADE FOR TWO REASONS.
ONE, TO UPDATE THE CURRENT STANDARD CONDITIONS AND TWO, TO REMOVE CONDITIONS THAT PROVIDED FOR A PACE PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY IN THE 2019 CUP.
THESE USES START WITH USE MAXIMUM OVERNIGHT OCCUPANCY CONDITION OF CARBON MONOXIDE TO SMOKE DETECTORS FOR PUBLIC FOR, UH, SAFETY OF THE GUESTS, EMERGENCY ACCESS, SOUND AND MUSIC, NO TRESPASSING PROVISIONS.
UM, REQUIREMENT THAT IT KEEP A RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE PROVISIONS FOR FUNDING AND HUNTING AND FIREARMS BY GUESTS ON THE PROPERTY NOTICE TO GUESTS OF THE REQUIREMENTS, INCLUDING, UH, OBSERVING NO TRESPASSING SIGNS AND THE HUNTING AND DISCHARGING OF FIREARMS ON THE PROPERTY.
FOLLOWING CONDITIONS 10 THROUGH 13 WERE DELETED RELATED TO THE PLACE OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY 14 THROUGH 19 RELATED TO PUBLIC ASSEMBLY 20, 21, 22, AND 23 AND OLD CONDITION 24.
ORIGINAL CONDITION 24 IS NOW 10 RELATED TO EXPIRATION.
UM, THIS IS, UH, PROPOSED THROUGH AUGUST, 2024.
AND, UM, STANDARD CONDITION RELATES TO TRANSFER LEASE WITH, UM, THE WORD ALSO STRICKEN BEFORE CONDITION SUBSECTION B.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE AT THIS TIME.
MRS. THURSTON IS IN ATTENDANCE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? UH, DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO SAY ANYTHING? YES.
I JUST WANNA SAY GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS PROPOSAL.
THANK YOU FOR THE STAFF FOR HELPING ME ALONG WITH THIS, UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION.
AND THANK YOU MR. LYLE AND MR. WINFREY FOR TAKING YOUR TIME BACK IN MAY TO COME TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
I WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SEEING NO COMMENTS, I'LL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I MOVE THAT THE BOARD GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 20 24 0 0 0 1 5 SUBJECT TO THE, UH, IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
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WOULD YOU TAKE THE ROLE, PLEASE? MR. WINFREY? YES.WE'LL NOW MOVE TO OUR SECOND AGENDA
[2. District 2 - CU-2024-00017 Application by Nicholas Flemion requesting to amend conditional use permit (CUP) case CU-2022-00011 to add contactor storage, small, on 2 acres at 3067 Three Chopt Road on Tax Map No. 21-6-0-1-0. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 in accordance with Sec. 15-283.I. The applicant is seeking 4 exceptions to Sec. 15-283.I to allow: 1) use on less than 3 acres, 2) building size greater than 2,500 square feet, 3) building setback less than 100 feet from property line, and 4) the number of vehicles and trailers to exceed standard. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]
ITEM OF THE NIGHT.UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2024 DASH 17 APPLICATION BY NICHOLAS FLEMING REQUESTING TO AMEND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE CU DASH 2022 DASH 11 TO ADD CONTRACTOR STORAGE SMALL ON TWO ACRES AT 3 0 6 7 3 CHOPPED ROAD.
UH, BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, IN DISTRICT TWO, WE HAVE AN APPLICATION TO AMEND AN EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THIS REQUEST IS TO ADD SHORT TERM, EXCUSE ME, TO ADD, UH, SMALL CONTRACTOR STORAGE TO A CUP THAT EXISTS FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED PROPERTIES, TWO ACRES IN SIZE, UM, WITH THE REQUEST.
THERE ARE FOUR EXCEPTIONS PROPOSED.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 3 0 6 7 3 CHOPPED ROAD.
THE ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL LIMITED.
A TWO AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE AREA FOR RURAL ENHANCEMENT SUBJECT PROPERTY IN THE CENTRAL PORTION PORTION OF THE COUNTY, UH, WHERE THREE CHOPPED IS NEAR I 64, UH, SHOWN IN, UH, THE RED CIRCLE ON THE LEFT ON THE RIGHT, THE SUB PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED, AND YOU CAN SEE THE COUNTY BOUNDARY WITH LOUISA COUNTY AND A YELLOW DASHED LINE.
UH, IT KIND OF COMES AND GOES ON THREE CHOPPED AS IT DOES ON THE INTERSTATE.
AND THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE WEST ARE IN LOUISA COUNTY.
AND, UH, THE NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE GLAND COUNTY ALSO SHOWN ON, UM, THE SCREEN.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPERTIES IN LOUISA COUNTY, UH, THAT DON'T HAVE A ZONING DESIGNATION ON THIS MAP AND GLAND COUNTY.
THE PROPERTIES, UM, OF THE SUBJECT AND THE ADJOINING PROPERTIES TO THE EAST ARE A TWO LIMITED AGRICULTURAL.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP ON THE RIGHT, THE PROPERTIES FOR RURAL ENHANCEMENT SHOWN IN GLAND COUNTY IN 2021, THE APPLICANT WAS APPROVED FOR A CUP FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED FOR THE EXISTING DWELLING, WHICH IS SHOWN IN THE PHOTOGRAPH ON THE SCREEN.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO AMEND THE EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ADD A CONTRACTOR STORAGE SMALL BUILDING FOR THE EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH HIS POWER WASHING BUSINESS, WHICH IS IN A STORAGE BUILDING.
AND THIS IS EXHIBIT B IN THE PACKAGE AND WILL COME UP ON THE SCREEN IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.
CURRENTLY, THERE'S A HOME OCCUPATION THAT THE, UM, APPLICANT HAS ON ANOTHER PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY, WHICH DOES NOT ALLOW FOR MORE THAN ONE COMMERCIAL VEHICLE.
THE PROPOSED CUP WILL ALSO ALLOW HIM TO STORE ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT WITH THE PROPERTY EXCUSE WITH THE BUSINESS THAT HE CAN'T STORE AT HIS HOME RIGHT NOW, DUE TO LACK OF SPACE.
AS A REMINDER, THE CONTRACTOR STORAGE SMALL USE WAS ADDED TO THE CODE, UH, BY ADOPTION IN 2023.
IT WAS ADDED TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR AGRICULTURAL DISTRICTS WITH SPECIFIED CUP UH, USE STANDARDS.
THOSE THAT COULD NOT MEET THE USE STANDARDS WOULD COME IN FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR THOSE EXCEPTIONS AS WELL.
SO THE NEED WAS IDENTIFIED AT THE TIME BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO HELP TRANSITION SMALL CONTRACTORS INTO MID-SIZE BUSINESSES.
THEY WOULD GO ONTO PROPERTIES THAT WOULD BE, UH, BETTER SUITED FOR PROPERTY, EXCUSE ME, FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE, UH, MIDDLING SIZE OR LARGER.
AND IT WAS INTENDED AT THE TIME TO FILL A GAP BETWEEN SMALL BUSINESSES AND THOSE READY TO CONDUCT THEIR BUSINESS FROM AN INDUSTRIAL OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY USE STANDARDS ON THE SCREEN.
UM, THERE'RE 11, UH, WITH THE 12TH ITEM BEING THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CAN GRANT EXCEPTIONS TO STANDARDS FOR THE CUP PROCESS.
IN THIS CASE, THE EXCEPTIONS ARE NUMBER ARE TO NUMBER ONE, MINIMUM ACREAGE.
NUMBER TWO, THE BUILDING NUMBER AND SIZE.
NUMBER FOUR, THE BUILDING SETBACK.
AND NUMBER SEVEN, THE VEHICLES AND TRAILERS SLIMMING THE NUMBER IN SIZE.
IT HAS THE HOUSE SHORT-TERM RENTAL.
UNHOSTED IS THE CURRENT USE, AN EXISTING SMALL STORAGE SHED.
IT'S ACCESSED FROM THREE CHOPPED ROAD AND IT'S LOCATED ON THE COUNTY BOUNDARY WITH LOUISA COUNTY.
SINGLE FAMILY USES ARE LOCATED TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, AND EAST AND THE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST AND LOUISA COUNTY HAVE A SEMI-INDUSTRIAL USE, WHICH BASICALLY HAS THE CHARACTER OF A BALL FIELD.
UH, ESSENTIALLY IT'S A TURF BUSINESS.
THIS ILLUSTRATION SHOWS, UM, A FEW FEATURES ON THE PROPERTY.
THE EXISTING DWELLING IS SHOWN IN YELLOW, UH, KIND OF A YELLOWY ORANGE.
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I THINK WE LEARNED THE COLOR, UH, YELLOW AND ORANGE PRETTY CLOSE TODAY.UH, UP TOWARDS THREE CHOPPED ROAD.
THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY, WHICH RUNS NEXT TO THAT, IS SHOWN IN RED TO THE, TO THE LEFT OR WEST ON SCREEN.
UM, THAT DRIVEWAY WOULD NEED TO BE IMPROVED TO MEET THE FIRE CODE STANDARDS FOR THE PROPOSED USE.
THE BUILDING AND PARKING AREA THAT WOULD BE NEW THAT ARE PROPOSED ORIENTED AWAY FROM THE DWELLING, UM, WHICH ARE ORIENTED AWAY FROM THE DWELLING ON THE EASTERN NEIGHBOR, ARE SHOWN HERE IN PURPLE.
THERE'S A 35 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK SHOWN IN GREEN, AND, UM, ALSO SHOWN IN THE SITE PLAN.
THERE WOULD BE, IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING WELL AND DRAIN FIELD, A NEW WELL AND DRAIN FIELD ADDED AND THEN SHOWN ON THE AERIAL, UH, PHOTOGRAPH, WE CAN SEE THE SCREENING VIA, UH, AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH, EXCUSE ME, WITH A NATURAL BUFFER IN EXHIBIT B.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
IT WOULD BE ACCESSED, UH, VIA THE DRIVEWAY, EXISTING AND GRAVEL PARKING AREA OUTSIDE AND WOULD'VE POWER AND PRIVATE UTILITIES FOR THE WELL AND SEPTIC WOULD'VE.
A BATHROOM, ALTHOUGH AN OFFICE USE, WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THIS STRUCTURE, UM, BECAUSE THE USE THAT'S PERMITTED AS A STORAGE USE AND NOT AN OFFICE USE.
SO THE APPLICANT REQUESTS THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS THROUGH THIS CASE, USE, UH, USE OF A SMALL CR CONTRACTOR STORAGE BUSINESS ON LESS THAN THREE ACRES.
THE STANDARD, UH, THE PROPERTY IS TWO ACRES.
A BUILDING SETBACK LESS THAN 100 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND, UH, AS SHOWN HERE, EAST AND WESTER RIGHT AND LEFT.
UM, SO GENERALLY EAST AND GENERALLY WEST 35 FEET TO THE EAST AND 90 FEET TO THE WEST.
THE SITE IS CONSTRAINED BY THE SHAPE OF THE PARCEL AND THE REDUCED ACREAGE.
AND, UM, JUST FOR NOTE, AS PROPOSED, THE CLOSEST HOUSE EXISTING IS 80 FEET AWAY FROM, UH, THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE AND THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING.
THE THIRD EXCEPTION IS THE BUILDING EXCEEDS THE, UH, STANDARD MINIMUM OF 2,500 SQUARE FEET.
HE IS PROPOSING 5,750 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY DOUBLE THE STANDARD.
THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES WOULD EXCEED THE STANDARD OF TWO.
THE APPLICANT HAS THREE BUSINESS VEHICLES AND, AND IS PROPOSING, UH, TO USE A FOURTH VEHICLE ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
THE LIMITATIONS ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ARE INTENDED TO LIMIT THE INTENSITY OF A BUSINESS IN A NON-COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
THERE WERE OUTSTANDING CONCERNS FROM STAFF THAT WERE STATED, UM, BY STAFF AND AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BY MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
ALTHOUGH THE BUILDING IS ORIENTED AWAY FROM THE CLOSEST RESIDENCE, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND THE DECREASED BUILDING SETBACK INCREASE THE POTENTIAL OF NOISE AND VISUAL IMPACT TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL LOT.
AND SECONDLY, ALTHOUGH ALLOW, EXCUSE ME, ALLOWING THE LARGE BUILDING AND ADDITIONAL VEHICLES MAY EXCEED THE INTENT THAT THE BOARD HAD WITH SMALL CONTRACTOR STORAGE USE ON A PROPERTY OF THIS SIZE.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY FOR RURAL ENHANCEMENT, AND IT SHOULD BE REFLECTIVE OF THE EXISTING CHARACTER OF THE AREA, WHICH AGAIN HAS RESIDENTIAL USES AND MANY OF THE ADJOINERS AND A TURF BUSINESS TO THE WEST.
AS CURRENTLY CONDITIONED, IT WAS FOUND THAT THE USE IS COMPLIANT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING ON MAY 6TH, 2024.
NO OTHER PERSONS, UH, OTHER THAN THE COUNTY OFFICIALS ATTENDED STAFF HAD HAD RECEIVED NO COMMENTS ON THIS REQUEST UNTIL JUST BEFORE THE MEETING.
AND WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS, UH, BY EMAIL, MALCOLM AND CINDY HOPE, AND IT'S THE, UH, OWNERS AND RESIDENTS OF THE ADJOINING, UH, HOUSE 80 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPOSED BUILDING.
UH, THEY WROTE COMMUNITY STAFF, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT STAFF THIS AFTERNOON SUPPORTING MR. FLEMING'S REQUEST.
WE'D HAD NO PREVIOUS CONTACT, UM, FROM THE HOPES OR WITH THE HOPES UNTIL TODAY, UH, AT THE JULY 18TH PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS APPLICATION WITH A FIVE OH VOTE.
ALL RIGHT, THESE CONDITIONS ARE IN YOUR PACKET.
SHOULD THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS APPROVE THIS APPLICATION, THE FOLLOWING CUP CONDITIONS ARE RECOMMENDED AND THEY RELATE TO SOME STANDARD CONDITIONS FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS EXPIRATION IN FIVE YEARS, 2029, TRANSFER OR LEASE THE CONTINUATION, UH, EXCUSE ME, THOSE CONDITIONS RELATE TO, UH, OR GENERAL THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS CONTINUE.
THE SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED, UM, CHANGES THE DATE ON THAT FIVE YEARS MAXIMUM OVER OVERNIGHT OCCUPANCY.
UH, THE INSTALLATION OF CARBON MONOXIDE SMOKE DETECTORS CONSISTENT WITH, UH, WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED.
SO THOSE NO CHANGES TO THOSE STANDARDS.
SAME FOR SOUND AND MUSIC, NO TRESPASSING, RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE, HUNTING, FIREARMS, AND NOTICE TO GUESS RELATED TO THE CONTRACTOR STORAGE.
SMALL, THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF RECOMMENDED RELATING TO USE.
AND IT NOTES IN THE FIRST ONE THAT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS THAT
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COULD BE GRANTED IN THE CONDITIONS BELOW.UM, THE CONTRACTOR STORAGE BUILDING LOCATION ORIENTATION MUST CONFORM TO THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS SHOWN EARLIER AS EXHIBIT A INCLUDED IN THE REPORT.
UH, ADDITIONALLY, APPROVALS MUST BE, UH, SOUGHT AND, UM, ATTAINED FOR A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH MAY INCLUDE APPROVALS BY OUTSIDE AGENCIES, STATE, AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE BUILDING AND PARKING AREA BE SCREENED ACCORDING TO THE STANDARDS.
UH, IN THE CODE FOR SMALL CONTRACTOR STORAGE USES CONDITION 16 NOTES THAT THROUGH THIS APPROVAL, AN EXCEPTION IS GRANTED TO THE THREE ACRE MINIMUM PROPERTY SIZE.
IN THIS CASE, THE MINIMUM PROPERTY SIZE IS TWO ACRES.
CONDITION 17 IS AN EXCEPTION GRANTED TO THE MAXIMUM BUILDING SIZE OF 2,500 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE MAXIMUM BUILDING SIZE IN THIS CASE CANNOT BE MORE THAN 5,750 SQUARE FEET.
THERE'S AN EXCEPTION GRANTED IN 18 TO MINIMUM BUILDING SETBACK OF AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET FROM ANY PROPERTY LINE.
UH, IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD GO TO 35 FEET.
AGAIN, RECALLED 90 FEET TO THE WEST AND 35 FEET TO THE EAST IS THE WAY IT'S BEEN LAID OUT.
THERE WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION GRANTED TO THE LIMIT OF TWO VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONTRACTOR BUSINESS PARKED ON THE PROPERTY.
AND IN THIS CASE, NO MORE THAN FOUR VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH THE STORAGE USE CAN BE PARKED ON THE PROPERTY.
YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? DOES THE APPLICANT WISH TO SAY ANYTHING? OH, I'M SO SORRY.
MR. FLEMING, I'M GONNA BRING UP YOUR MAP JUST, JUST A MOMENT HERE.
UH, MY NAME'S NICHOLAS FLEMING.
I'M AT 37 62 COUNTY LINE ROAD.
UM, I GUESS I DON'T REALLY HAVE LIKE A FORMAL PRESENTATION, BUT I DID JUST WANT TO KIND OF GIVE YOU ALL A QUICK, UM, HISTORY OF KIND OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT WITH THE BUILDING.
UM, SO I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN LOOKING FOR LAND TO BUILD, OR A BUILDING TO BUY FOR OVER TWO YEARS AT THIS POINT.
UM, I'VE GONE THROUGH SO MANY THINGS I'M NOT GONNA SPEND HOURS TELLING YOU, BUT I'LL GIVE YOU JUST A BRIEF SUMMARY,
UM, SO ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO I FOUND A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN A, IN A BUILDING ACTUALLY, THAT LOOKED LIKE IT WOULD WORK FOR MY BUSINESS.
UM, IT WAS OFF BROAD STREET ROAD AND IT SEEMED LIKE THEY PEOPLE WANTED TO SELL.
IT WAS GONNA WORK OUT FOR EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED IT TO.
UM, I ENDED UP GETTING THE PROPERTY INSPECTED.
I ACTUALLY GOT APPROVAL FOR A LOAN ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, I HAD A COUPLE OF LITTLE THINGS I HAD TO DO JUST KIND OF TO GET SOME THINGS SQUARED AWAY.
UM, LAST MINUTE THEY BASICALLY PULLED OUT AFTER I HAD DONE ALL OF THAT.
UM, SO THEN I ENDED UP FINDING ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND.
WELL, I GUESS THAT COMES A LITTLE LATER.
SO THAT KIND OF FELL THROUGH AT THAT POINT.
UM, THAT WAS A COUPLE YEARS BACK.
UM, SINCE THAT POINT, UM, I'VE BEEN BASICALLY SEARCHING EVERYTHING, LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF COMMERCIAL LAND AVAILABLE.
UM, THE BIGGEST ISSUE FOR ME IS JUST, AS YOU ALL PROBABLY KNOW, ANY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL LAND, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET CLOSER TO OILVILLE, IS JUST INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE TO WHERE LIKE, MY BUSINESS JUST COULD NOT AFFORD IT.
UM, THERE'S A PIECE, THERE'S A THREE ACRE PIECE IN OILVILLE IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.
UM, IT'S BEING SOLD FOR $575,000 JUST FOR THREE ACRES.
NOTHING, NO BUILDING, NO NOTHING ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, I PRETTY MUCH CALLED TEXTED, TALKED TO JUST ABOUT EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF COMMERCIAL LAND BETWEEN HAYDENVILLE AND OILVILLE OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
UM, I FOUND ANOTHER BUILDING THAT MIGHT WORK BY GIGI'S PIZZA.
UM, ACTUALLY HAD SOMEONE FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CENTER CONTACT THEM.
UM, HE SAID HE WOULDN'T SELL IT FOR LESS THAN A MILLION DOLLARS.
UM, AND THE BUILDING WAS IN DISREPAIR.
I MEAN, IT WOULD NEED SO MUCH WORK EVEN AT THAT PRICE POINT.
I ENDED UP ACTUALLY STUDYING AND SEARCHING THE GIS FOR ABOUT PROBABLY ABOUT A YEAR.
UM, SENDING OUT LAND LETTERS TO ANYONE AT ANY PROPERTY I THOUGHT MIGHT WORK.
UM, I ACTUALLY VISITED PROBABLY 10 TO 15 PROPERTIES MYSELF AND JUST KNOCKED ON DOORS, PROPERTIES THAT I FOUND ON THE GIS THAT I SAID, HEY, MAYBE THERE'S A CHANCE.
UM, SO BETWEEN THE LAND LETTERS, I MADE PHONE CALLS FOR THESE PROPERTIES.
ANYTHING I COULD DO TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY MEET THE STANDARDS.
UM, I ENDED UP HAVING ONE PERSON CONTACT ME.
I THOUGHT, HEY, GREAT, THIS MIGHT WORK.
WENT THROUGH ALL THESE STEPS WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, TURNS OUT THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY FLOODED ANYTIME IT RAINED.
SO THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY, IT BASICALLY LOOKED LIKE A POND AND IT JUST WAS NOT BUILDABLE.
ACTUALLY HAD A BUDDY OF MINE WHO DOES EXCAVATING OUT TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY WAY WE COULD MAKE IT WORK.
IT TAKES A MONTH TO DRAIN EVERY TIME IT RAINS.
THERE WAS JUST NO WAY TO MAKE IT WORK.
UM, SO THEN FAST FORWARD A LITTLE BIT, UM, AGAIN, CONTINUING THE SEARCH.
UM, THERE WAS ACTUALLY FOUR ACRES OF FOUR AND A HALF ACRES THAT CAME AVAILABLE.
UM, IT'S LOUISA TECHNICALLY, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY ON THIS ROAD.
THERE'S THAT LARGE COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
THE LAND FOR SALE NEXT TO IT, UM, WAS PUT UP FOR SALE.
UM, IT WAS FOUR AND A HALF ACRES, UH, LISTED FOR I THINK IT WAS $450,000.
UM, FOR ME, OBVIOUSLY THAT WASN'T DOABLE.
HOWEVER, I WAS LIKE, I GOTTA MAKE SOMETHING WORK.
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ME JUST TRY ANYTHING.SO I REACHED OUT AND SAID, HEY, WOULD YOU SELL A PIECE OF THIS? UM, THE OWNER SAID, YEAH, THERE'S A CHANCE I WOULD JUST SELL OFF AN ACRE.
UM, IT WAS STILL GONNA BE $150,000 FOR ONE ACRE, BUT I WAS LIKE, HEY, I GOTTA MAKE SOMETHING WORK.
UM, SO WE WENT THROUGH THOSE STEPS.
I ACTUALLY HAD A COUNTY MEETING WITH LOUISA BECAUSE THIS IS IN LOUISA COUNTY.
UM, WE PROBABLY HAD A TWO HOUR MEETING GOING OVER EVERYTHING, ALL THE INS AND OUTS.
I WAS LIKE, OKAY, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE THIS WORK.
THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME HOOPS TO GET THROUGH, UM, BUT I THINK WE CAN MAKE IT WORK.
UM, AND THEN BASICALLY AFTER ALL OF THAT, TRYING TO LEAD UP TO, OKAY, LET'S GET SOMETHING.
NOW LET'S GET SOMETHING IN WRITING.
UM, THIS GUY BACKED OUT AND HE BASICALLY SAID, NO, UNLESS YOU BUY ALL OF IT, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT YOU TO JUST BUY AN ACRE AFTER I HAD GONE THROUGH ALL OF THIS.
UM, SO THAT WAS LIKE THE THIRD OR FOURTH DECENT OPTION.
UM, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF LAND BETWEEN BASICALLY HAYDENVILLE AND OILVILLE, UM, REMOTELY CLOSE TO THE AREA THAT I COULD BE IN, I HAVE EITHER CALLED, I HAVE KNOCKED ON THE DOOR, I HAVE SENT OUT A LAND LETTER TO EVERY SINGLE ONE.
UM, ALL THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE, I'M JUST, ARE JUST PRICED SO HIGH THAT LIKE A BUSINESS LIKE MINE JUST, I MEAN, I JUST CAN'T AFFORD IT.
UM, SO I ACTUALLY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY.
YOU ALL MAY KNOW IT'S BEEN TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS, I BELIEVE, UM, WITH NO INTENT ACTUALLY TO PUT ANYTHING ON IT OTHER THAN THE UNHOSTED RENTAL.
UM, SO WE HAD THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPROVED A COUPLE YEARS BACK.
AND THEN AGAIN, AFTER THIS TWO YEARS OF JUST HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS AND MONEY SPENT TRYING TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT, UM, WE CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA.
UM, AS FAR AS ALL THE PLANNING FOR THIS GOES, SOME OF THIS STUFF YOU'VE SEEN, I'VE TRIED TO ABIDE BY ALL THE COUNTY'S REGULATIONS BEST I CAN WITH THE PROPERTY THAT'S HERE.
UM, SO LIKE VDOT SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS ON A PROPERTY THIS SIZE AND SAID, NO PROBLEM.
WE'LL JUST CUT INTO THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S THERE.
UM, I TALKED TO THE GUYS AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THEY TOLD US, TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, THE DRIVEWAY'S GOTTA BE 20 FEET WIDE, 75,000 POUNDS, UM, AND WE NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE BACK OF THE BUILDING, THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND.
WE GOT ALL THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
UM, WE ORIGINALLY HAD THE BUILDING ACTUALLY FACING THE STREET.
AND EVEN THOUGH THERE'S FULL TREE COVERAGE AND YOU WON'T EVEN KNOW IT'S THERE, UM, I STILL SPOKE WITH JAMIE AND SOME OTHERS AND WE THOUGHT, OKAY, IT PROBABLY MAKES MORE SENSE FOR THE CONFIGURATION TO BE SIDEWAYS SO THAT EVEN IF YOU COULD SEE IT FROM THE STREET, YOU'RE REALLY JUST GONNA SEE A 50 FOOT BOX.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE A WHOLE BUILDING.
IT'S JUST GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, THE SMALLEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING THERE.
UM, SO WE WENT AHEAD AND DID THAT.
UM, AND THEN AS I MENTIONED, AS I THINK HE MENTIONED AS WELL, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH THE OWNERS AT THE ADJOINING PROPERTY MULTIPLE TIMES AND THEY, THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT.
UM, THEY'VE SEEN HOW WE'VE REPRESENTED THE SHORT-TERM RENTAL SINCE WE'VE HAD IT OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
UM, WE'VE ABIDED BY ALL THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THE COUNTY'S TOLD US TO DO, WE'VE DONE IT.
THE PROPERTY, WE PUT ABOUT $30,000 INTO RENOVATING THE PROPERTY.
IT WAS ABSOLUTELY IN DISREPAIR.
THE YARD WAS TRASHED, THE HOUSE WAS TRASHED.
UM, SO WE COMPLETELY RENOVATED IT.
WE'VE KEPT IT CLEAN, KEPT IT QUIET, KEPT THE GRASS CUT.
UM, SO THE NEIGHBORS REALLY LIKE US THERE.
UM, AND I OF COURSE HAVE NO INTENT TO, YOU KNOW, USE THIS BUILDING FOR ANYTHING CRAZY, ANY LOUD NOISES.
IT'S REALLY JUST GONNA BE A PICKUP AND A DROP OFF FOR THE TRUCKS.
IT'S JUST, WE HAVE REALLY BIG TRUCKS AND THEY'RE 20, 25 FEET LONG.
UM, SO, AND IN THE WINTERTIME WE HAVE TO ANTIFREEZE ALL THAT EQUIPMENT AMONG OTHER THINGS.
IT JUST GETS TO BE SUCH A NIGHTMARE.
SO THE SIZE IS MORE SO JUSTIFIED IN THE FACT OF WE JUST HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FIT THE TRUCKS INSIDE.
IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHY DO YOU NEED THAT MUCH SPACE FOR JUST SOME EQUIPMENT? IT'S REALLY JUST WE'VE GOT BIG TRUCKS AND THEY NEED TO GO INSIDE, OR IT KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF HAVING THE BUILDING.
UM, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAVE THIS UNHOSTED RENTAL IN THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, LIKE IT ISN'T MY BEST INTEREST, OF COURSE, EVEN PROBABLY MORE SO THAN THE NEIGHBORS TO SAY, HEY, I DON'T WANT ANYONE IN THE FRONT OF THIS PROPERTY TO EVEN KNOW THAT BUILDING EXISTS.
LIKE, IT'S GONNA BE QUIET, IT'S GONNA BE CLEAN, JUST LIKE THE PROPERTY WAS.
I'VE ALREADY TOLD SOME PEOPLE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S EVEN A CHANCE THAT THIS BUILDING CAN BE SEEN FROM THE STREET, PRIVACY TREES ARE GOING UP.
LIKE I WANT IT TO BE PRIVATE AND JUST TUCKED BACK THERE JUST A SPOT TO KEEP STUFF.
UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S KIND OF, I DON'T WANNA SAY LAST RESORT, BUT IT KIND OF HAS BEEN BECAUSE I'VE JUST DONE SO MUCH RESEARCH AND TIME TO GET TO THIS POINT.
UM, AND SO I FELT, YOU KNOW, THIS WOULD WORK WELL FOR THAT.
AND AGAIN, I REALLY WANT TO KEEP IT QUIET AND IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY JUST GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, WE COME IN IN THE MORNING AT NINE O'CLOCK, WE PICK UP THE TRUCKS, WE GO AT FIVE O'CLOCK, THE TRUCKS ARE DROPPED OFF AND WE LEAVE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS TO THE ACTUAL, THERE'S REALLY NO DAILY OPERATION, SO TO SPEAK OUTSIDE OF THAT.
UM, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE REASON, YOU KNOW, THE SIZE NEEDS TO BE THERE.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE 17, 18 FEET TALL AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAVE LADDERS, WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, IT GETS A LITTLE MORE COMPLEX WITH THAT.
UM, BUT I GUESS THAT WAS A LITTLE MORE JUST THE HISTORY, BUT THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I GOT.
I WILL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
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I HAVE A MOTION, MR. CHAIRMAN, WOULD IT BE, WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE SOME DISCUSSION FIRST BEFORE A MOTION, OR DO YOU WANT MOTION FIRST? I'M OPEN TO DISCUSSION.ALRIGHT, SO I'LL, I'LL KICK THIS OFF BECAUSE THIS ISN'T MY DISTRICT.
UM, AND THIS IS, THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING CASE FOR ME BECAUSE, UM, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT IT, THIS BUILDING DOES NOT BELONG THERE.
I MEAN, IT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL AS YOU CAN GET.
UM, AND THEN ADD TO IT ALL OF THE EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED.
AND I STRUGGLE WITH HOW, WHAT FOLKS WOULD THINK IF WE PUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT THERE.
UM, IT'S HARD BECAUSE AS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND SOMEBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO SEE SMALL BUSINESSES SUCCEED, YOU KNOW, HAVE A HEART FOR THAT.
AND I, I DO WORRY ABOUT THE RESIDENTS.
SO I DID SOMETHING I HAVEN'T DONE SINCE LAST FALL.
I DOOR KNOCKED AND I WENT TO TALK TO SOME FOLKS AND I WAS VERY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT PEOPLE WERE, UM, IN THAT AREA WERE VERY MUCH A LIVE AND LET LIVE.
UM, THEIR POINT TO ME, UH, ONE OF THE RESIDENTS WAS, WELL, A GUY PUT A, HIS FIELD OF DREAMS BASEBALL FIELD RIGHT NEXT DOOR, UM, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE IN LUISA COUNTY.
THERE IS ANOTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDING IN THERE, WHICH IS AT THE END OF ROAD, WHICH IS ALSO LUISA COUNTY.
AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S CARVED OUT, WE HAVE, UM, COMMERCIAL ON ALL SIDES OF THIS.
SO, UM, I STRUGGLE, UH, WITH THIS, BUT I DO, AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF BEFORE I, MR. GILLESPIE.
UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT HAPPENS? SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LIKE ABOUT CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS IS THEY'RE CONDITIONAL, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE FIVE YEARS WHERE IT, IT, IT TURNS INTO A NUISANCE TO THE NEIGHBORS.
BUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT BUILDING IF THE CUP IS NOT RENEWED AT THE TIME OF, UH, RENEWAL? SURE.
IT IT IS A USE, IT'S NOT RELATED TO THE STRUCTURE.
SO THAT STRUCTURE COULD BE REUSED FOR ANYTHING PERMITTED IN THE AG DISTRICT.
UH, IT COULD BE USED BY HOBBYIST TO REPAIR CARS.
IT COULD BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE USE FOR PERSONAL STORAGE.
IT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED FOR AN OFFICE USE CONTRACTOR STORAGE OR ANY OTHER USE NOT PERMITTED IN THE BASE ZONING.
THANK YOU, MR. YOU'RE WELCOME.
UM, SO THIS IS FUNNY 'CAUSE THIS IS NOT WHERE I THOUGHT I WAS GOING WITH THIS WHEN I WALKED IN HERE THIS MORNING.
UM, SO MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I MOVE THE BOARD GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT C 20 24 0 0 17, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, MS. WINFREY, UM, IT IS MORE THAN TWICE THE STANDARD.
UH, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS MORE THAN TWICE THE STANDARD.
SO IT SORT OF DWARFS THE, UH, THE LITTLE HOUSE THERE, WHICH IS PROBABLY A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
AND SO IT, IT'S NO LONGER A RESIDENTIAL USE.
IT'S OVERPOWERED BY THE, UH, BY THE BUILDING, WHICH IS A COMMERCIAL ALMOST INDUSTRIAL USE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SOME HEARTBURN WITH THAT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
UM, BUT BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE NEIGHBORS SEEM TO ALONG WITH IT, UM, AND I AGREE WITH YOU MR. SPOON.
NOW WE WANT TO, WE WANT TO SEE OUR BUSINESSES TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THIS COUNTY AND WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE 'EM.
UM, I MEAN, I'LL BE, YOU KNOW, RELUCTANTLY, I GUESS I HAVE TO SAY, I'D BE INCLINED TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
MR. LAU? UH, YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU.
AND I APOLOGIZE, I WAS A LITTLE SLOW ON THE DRAW THERE WHEN YOU ASKED IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE MY QUESTION IN MY HEAD, WHICH THANKFULLY MOST PEOPLE CAN'T HEAR, UM, WAS WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS IS DENIED? UH, WHAT HAPPENS TO, UH, UH, AN ENTREPRENEUR, SOMEBODY WHO IS, UH, TRYING TO BUILD A BUSINESS? AND, AND I'VE BEEN THERE, EVERY BUSINESS I'VE STARTED AND OWNED HAS BEEN SMALL, UH, LESS THAN 200 EMPLOYEES.
AND, AND SO I HAVE A HEART FOR IT.
MR. WINFREY MADE SOME VERY GOOD POINTS.
AND THAT IS, WE'RE WE'RE TALKING 40% EXCEPTIONS TO WHAT THE CUP IS IS DESIGNATING HERE.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY, AT LEAST AT BRIDGEWATER, WE CALL THAT PRETTY CLOSE TO HALF.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT GIVES ME SOME CONCERN.
AND THEN I COME BACK TO WHAT IS REALITY? WHAT IS THE CONTEXTUAL SITUATION WE'VE GOT GOING HERE? AND THAT IS, WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO, EVEN THOUGH THEY STARTED THE STRAY A
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LITTLE BIT, WENT TO LOUISA ANSWER CONVERSATIONS, UH, I CAN MAYBE OVERLOOK THAT.BUT, UH, WE, WE HAVE A BUSINESS HERE IN THE COUNTY THAT WOULD LIKE TO GROW.
AND, UM, I I WANT TO GET TO THAT POINT WHERE I CAN ASSIST SOMEBODY WHO, IN MY YOUNGER DAYS WAS PROBABLY RIGHT THERE TRYING TO GROW A BUSINESS AND HAD EXPLORED NUMEROUS OPTIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE.
SO THE, THE EXCEPTIONS AND COUNSEL ADVISES US EVERY DECISION IS ITS OWN.
AND BECAUSE WE, WE MAKE A DECISION EITHER TO DENY OR PROVE, DOESN'T MEAN THE NEXT DECISION WE LOOK AT WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS PRECEDENT.
SO, UM, I'M, I'M, I'M STILL ON THE FENCE, WHICH IS NOT A PRETTY SIGHT, I SUPPOSE, BUT I, I, I, UH, THE, THE LIVE AND LET LIVE PHRASE THAT MR. SPOON IER USED, UH, THAT, THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SEEMS TO BE OKAY WITH IT, UH, HAS A LOT OF SAND WITH ME.
AND, UM, AND I WISH I HAD ASKED THE, UH, APPLICANT, IF THIS WASN'T APPROVED, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN? AND, UH, I MISSED THAT OPPORTUNITY.
UH, MR. CHRISTY AT THE FACE OF THIS, I, THIS WAS A HARD NO FOR ME.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT GOING THROUGH HIS STORY OF HOW HE TRIED TO ACQUIRE LAND THAT WOULD WORK, THAT FIT WITHIN OUR, YOU KNOW, UH, ORDINANCES AND WHATNOT, UM, I, I THINK I'M, I'M LEANING TOWARDS THE SUPPORT OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE BARNS IN, IN MY DISTRICT THAT ARE BIGGER THAN THIS BUILDING.
AND, AND WHILE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, CUP GOES WITH THE PROPERTY, IT, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT EVEN IF HE GOES BANKRUPT, EVEN IF HE, YOU KNOW, LOSES THE PROPERTY OR, OR WHATNOT, BUT THAT BUILDING WOULDN'T HAVE A USE IN AN AG ZONE DISTRICT.
YOU KNOW, AND I'M SURE PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO PARK THEIR, THEIR TRACTORS IN THERE OR, OR POTENTIALLY WORK ON 'EM.
IT COULD BE RENTED OUT FOR WHO KNOWS WHAT.
SO I, I THINK I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
I'LL ADD, I I WAS IN THE SAME POSITION NOT 30 MINUTES AGO.
UM, AND THIS IS AN ENTREPRENEUR WHO IS FOCUSED ON GROWING A BUSINESS WHO HAS TAKEN ALL THE STEPS YOU CAN TO MAKE IT WORK.
AND GLIN IS BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
WE ARE GOING TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT BY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY.
AND HE'S, UH, MR. FLEMING HAS DEFINITELY GONE OVER AND ABOVE TO WORK TO MAKE THIS, UH, HAPPEN.
AND I DO THINK THOSE EFFORTS, UM, SOUNDS LIKE FROM THE DEUS WILL WILL BE REWARDED, BUT IT IS, UH, THERE ARE REASONS TO MAKE EXCEPTIONS, AND THIS IS, UH, SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THEM.
I WILL NOT, UM, WE WILL LET THE VOTE PLAY OUT AS IT DOES THOUGH.
SO HAVING A, A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MR. CARPENTER, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL.
MS. S BOHA? YES, MS. LYLE? AYE.
AND, UH, MR. FLEMING, IF MS. WORLEY EVER CALLS YOU, PICK UP THE PHONE IMMEDIATELY.
UH, WE WILL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS, PLEASE.
UH, WE'LL GO BY BASED ON THE CLOCK BACK THERE WHEN IT HITS THE THREE.
WE'LL NOW RECONVENE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING.
[3. Countywide - ZOA-2024-00002 Amendment to Zoning Ordinance (County Code Chapter 15) to repeal and replace Article 28 (Floodplain Districts and Dam Break Inundation Zones) with updated provisions and to adopt and incorporate the new Flood Insurance Rate Maps issued by the Federal Emergency Management Agency]
THIRD ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ZOA DASH 2024 DASH TWO, AND AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE, COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 15 TO REPEAL AND REPLACE ARTICLE 28 FLOODPLAIN DISTRICTS AND DAM BREAK INUNDATION ZONES WITH UPDATED PROVISIONS, AND TO ADOPT AND INCORPORATE THE NEW FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAPS ISSUED BY THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AGENCY, ALSO KNOWN AS FEMA, MR. GILLESPIE WILL PRESENT.UM, THE APPLICATION WAS INITIATED BY THE BOARD.
THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS, UH, THAT ARE SOMEWHAT RHETORICAL, BUT QUESTIONS TO GO THROUGH.
WHY DO WE NEED TO ADOPT THE MAPS IN ORDER TO DID NUTS? UH, THIS IS REQUIRED FOR THE COUNTY'S CONTINUED PARTICIPATION IN FEMA'S NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM, THE NFIP.
WHY IS IT IMPORTANT? IT ALLOWS THE COUNTY'S HOMEOWNERS, RESIDENTS, RENTERS, AND BUSINESSES ACCESS TO FEDERALLY BACKED FLOOD INSURANCE.
IT ALLOWS THE COUNTY TO MAKE BETTER DETERMINATIONS ABOUT WHERE AND HOW NEW MAP WHERE, AND HOW NEW DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE BUILT.
UM, THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE IN THIS ROUND OF, UH, THE FIRM OR THE, UH, FLOOD INSURANCE RATE MAP UPDATES.
THEY'RE INCREASINGLY PRECISE AND ACCURATE.
GLAND COUNTY HAS PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM
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WITH THE FIRM MAPS SINCE 1979.THE MOST RECENT MAPS, UH, UPDATES TO THE MAPS WERE MADE IN 2008.
AND, UH, THAT'S, UM, THE YEAR BEFORE THE IPHONE CAME OUT.
PROCESS FILED FOR ADOPTION IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN.
UH, YOU'LL SEE A DISCOVERY IN 2018 GOING THROUGH THE EFFECTIVE DATE, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE OCTOBER 10TH, 2024.
ALONG THE WAY, THERE WAS A RISK REVIEW MEETING WITH FE STAFF, AS WELL AS STAFF AT THE DEPARTMENT OF, UH, CONSERVATION RECREATION, DCR AT THE STATE.
UH, COMMUNITY COORDINATION AND OUTREACH OCCURRED, UH, BEGINNING WITH THE ONE MEETING.
THERE WAS AN APPEAL PERIOD DURING THAT TIME.
UM, NOTICES WERE SENT BY MAIL TO ALL AFFECTED PROPERTY OWNERS.
AFTER THE END OF THE APPEAL PERIOD, THERE WERE APPEALS, UH, THAT WERE, UH, SUBMITTED TO FEMA.
AND, AND AFTER THOSE WERE CONSIDERED AND SOME CHANGES WERE MADE, FEMA ISSUES A LETTER OF FINAL DETERMINATION.
THAT, UH, PROCESS, WHICH ENDED IN, UH, ESSENTIALLY APRIL OF THIS YEAR.
IT TAKES US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY, WHICH IS THE FINAL, UH, CONSIDERATION OF BOTH THE ORDINANCE CHANGE AND THE MAP CHANGES.
SO IN THE CHANGES IN THE MAPS, ESSENTIALLY, UH, NEW MAPS SHOULD HAVE MAPPED ADDITIONAL AREAS OF FLOODING, BUT ALSO REMOVED AREAS THAT ARE NO LONGER, UH, KNOWN TO BE FLOODED.
UH, YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THIS RECENTLY IN A CASE THAT CAME FOR YOU ON BROAD STREET ROAD, UM, WHERE THE OFFICE BUILDING WAS PREVIOUSLY THOUGHT TO BE IN A FLOODPLAIN.
AND AS IT WAS MORE, UH, CAREFULLY AND ACCURATELY DELINEATED, IT WAS RECOGNIZED TO BE OUTSIDE.
SO AREAS THAT ARE PREVIOUSLY SHOWN AS BEYOND STUDY LIMITS ARE NOW MAPPED.
SO FEMALE HAS EXTENDED THE, UH, THE EXTENT OF THE STUDY AREAS.
AREAS PREVIOUSLY SHOWN AS APPROXIMATE FLOOD ZONES HAVE BEEN RETITLED.
THEY'RE NOW BASE FLOOD ELEVATIONS AND FLOODWAYS THAT HAVE BEEN DETERMINED.
AND FLOODWAYS WERE DELINEATED FOR AREAS NOT PREVIOUSLY DELINEATED, INCLUDING ANDERSON CREEK BROAD BRANCH, BROAD BRANCH TRIBUTARY, LITTLE TUCKO CREEK, TRIBUTARY READERS BRANCH, AND ALL THE TRIBUTARIES, UH, TO, UH, ALL FIVE TRIBUTARIES, STUCCO CREEK.
THIS SLIDE JUST SHOWS A SAMPLE OF A, UH, WHAT'S CALLED AN AE ZONE, BUT IT SHOWS ONE OF THE MAPS AND, UH, I, I SHOULD HAVE, WE SHOULD HAVE DONE, I THINK WE HAD DONE AT ONE POINT IN OUR COMMUNITY MEETING, PUT UP AN OLD MAP, UH, TO CONTRAST IT WITH THE NEW MAPS.
UH, THESE LOOK USABLE AND TO SCALE AND NORMAL AND LIKE SOMETHING PEOPLE WOULD EXPECT, UM, TO FLOOD AS OPPOSED TO BIG CHUNKY PIXELATED BITS THAT WERE THE OLD MAPS.
UM, THERE'S A KEY ON THE SIDE, AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE WORKING WITHIN THE FLOODWAY, THAT'S THE AREA WHERE THE WATER IS ALWAYS GONNA BE COMING.
AND THEN THE AE ZONES, UM, ON THE FLOODWAY FRINGE IN THE ORDINANCE.
UM, THIS FOLLOWED THE, UM, MODEL ORDINANCE PROMULGATED BY FEMA AND THROUGH VIRGINIA THROUGH DCR.
IT DOES INCLUDE UPDATED TERMINOLOGY AND DEFINITIONS.
IT CLARIFIES DESIGNATION OF AND RESPONSIBILITIES FOR, UH, ACTIVITIES, PROCESSES, AND PENALTIES AND, UH, VIOLATIONS.
THERE WERE NO MAJOR CHANGES IN REQUIREMENTS FOR STRUCTURES LOCATED IN FLOOD ZONES.
SO THIS WOULD BE, UH, POTENTIALLY AN UNINHABITED STRUCTURE, A SHED, FOR EXAMPLE, OR A GARAGE THAT WOULDN'T HAVE HABITATION.
BEFORE THE, UH, JULY 18TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING.
UH, THIS WAS, UH, HELD IN THIS BUILDING WITH, UH, TWO OTHER CODE AMENDMENTS, INCLUDING THE FAR REGULATION, UM, AND STORMWATER AND EROSION AND SEDIMENT CONTROL, UH, CODES THAT PRECEDED THE JULY 18TH, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT WHICH THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A FIVE OH VOTE.
NO ONE SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
THE NEW MAPPING AND THE ORDINANCE WOULD BE IN EFFECT OCTOBER 10TH, 2024, WHICH IS THE DATE SET, UM, IN ACCORD WITH FEMA AND GLAND COUNTY'S PARTICIPATION IN THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM WILL CONTINUE.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
AND I'LL NOTE OUR TRUE TECHNICAL EXPERT, DEBBIE BIRD IS IN THE AUDIENCE.
SO IF YOU REALLY, REALLY HAVE A TECHNICAL QUESTION, SHE'S HERE ALSO.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? SEEING NONE, I'LL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, YES YOU DO, MR. CHAIRMAN.
AND, UH, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE, UH, ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT 0 8 2 0 2 4 0 0 0 0 2 TO ARTICLE 28 REGARDING FLOODPLAIN DISTRICTS AND UPDATED FEMA MAPS.
ANY DISCUSSION? ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, JUST TO COMMENT, MR. MR.
I BELIEVE WE HAD A HANDFUL OR LESS THAN A HANDFUL OF IT WAS, IT WAS FOUR, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THEY'VE ALL BEEN THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HAD BEEN COME TO RESOLUTION, WHETHER THAT'S OR AGAINST.
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AND MR. CHAIRMAN, ALSO, UM, JUST TO MAKE SURE, THIS DOES BRING US IN COMPLIANCE WITH, IF YOU WILL, OTHER NATIONAL AND STATE REGULATIONS.AND SO IF WE DIDN'T PASS THIS, THAT AIN'T GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING? YES, SIR.
I, I DON'T WANNA PICK AT IT TOO MUCH, BUT I'LL SAY THE MODEL CODE CAN BE MODIFIED.
SO IF THIS COMES UP THE NEXT TIME, WE ARE LOOKING AT FI UH, FIRM MAPS AND THE ORDINANCE LANGUAGE THAT COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS TO BE MODIFIED.
WE DID NOT MODIFY A SINGLE THING WE COULD, BUT THEY WILL LOOK AT IT VERY CLOSELY AND SEE IF IT BEGINS TO UNDERMINE THE INTENT OF THE PROGRAM.
UM, IN THIS CASE, THE MODEL CODE WAS BROUGHT FORWARD, ACCEPTED, UM, AFTER STAFF'S VERY THOROUGH REVIEW OF WHAT WAS IN IT.
SO THERE ARE NO CHANGES THAT ARE, THAT HAVE ANY VARIATION THAT WOULD LEAD TO ANY CAUSE FOR SOMEONE TO GUESS ITS EFFECTIVENESS.
AND, AND MY OTHER UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS WAS AS WELL COMMUNICATED AS POSSIBLE, BUT THE COMMUNICATION WENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND IN THE MOSAIC COMMUNITY, THAT PROPERTY OWNER WAS THE DEVELOPER AND THE ULTIMATE HOMEOWNERS WERE NOT AWARE THAT THESE MAPS WERE CHANGING.
AND, AND I HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH SEVERAL WHO WERE, I GUESS I'LL USE THE WORD SURPRISED, UH, TO FIND OUT THAT THEY WERE NOW IN A FLOOD ZONE, EVEN THOUGH THEY WILL NOT BE SUBJECT BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION THAT TOOK PLACE.
SO WE'LL DO THIS ONCE EVERY HOW MANY YEARS? 15 OR SO
SO MAYBE WE'LL JUST FILE THAT AWAY, THAT IN THE FUTURE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE COMMUNICATING TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE ULTIMATELY BUYING THOSE LOTS THAT THE FEMA MAPS EXIST.
THERE, THERE WAS, UH, INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE.
IT WAS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE TO FOLKS, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE WERE FOLKS WHO WERE IN THE MIDST OF DEVELOPMENT AND PURCHASING LOTS UNDER DEVELOPMENT THAT WERE NOT RECEIVING MAIL BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T OWN THE PROPERTY YET.
AND A SECOND, MR. CARPENTER, WILL YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL, MR. LYLE? AYE.
[4. Ordinance amending Goochland County Code Chapter 13 (Taxation), Article 1A (Personal Property Tax), Sec. 13-10.10 (Minimum assessments) to increase the minimum tax assessment, and Appendix C to the County Code, to raise to $50,000 the floor for payment of gross receipts taxes and to eliminate the business license fee for businesses with gross receipts up to $50,000, and to create a flat rate fee for contractors with gross receipts up to $25,000]
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FOUR IN ORDINANCE AMENDING GLAND COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 13, TAXATION ARTICLE ONE, A PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX SECTION 13 DASH 10 DASH OH 10 MINIMUM ASSESSMENTS TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM TAX ASSESSMENT AND APPENDIX C TO THE COUNTY CODE TO RAISE TO $50,000 THE FLOOR FOR PAYMENT GROSS RECEIPTS, TAXES.I COMBINED AND TO ELIMINATE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FEE FOR BUSINESSES WITH GROSS RECEIPTS UP TO $50,000 AND TO CREATE A FLAT RATE FEE FOR CONTRACTORS WITH GROSS RECEIPTS UP TO $25,000.
MR. CARPENTER WILL PRESENT FOLDER.
ARE YOU IN THE W DRIVE? YEAH, IT'S UNDER PLANNING HEARINGS RIGHT THERE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TONIGHT I COME BEFORE YOU REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO SEVERAL SECTIONS OF THE COUNTY'S TAX ORDINANCE TO PROVIDE TAX RELIEF TO SMALL BUSINESSES.
THIS AMENDMENT TO COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 13, ARTICLE ONE A SECTION 13 DASH 10 10 TO INCREASE THE MINIMUM TAX ASSESSMENT FROM $2 TO $10.
BY DOING SO, THIS WILL ELIMINATE TAX BURDEN FOR VERY LOW VALUE PROPERTY AND ALSO ALLOWS FOR EFFICIENCIES IN THE TAX COLLECTION PROPERTIES PROCESS.
SEVERAL HUNDRED TAX NOTICES THAT WOULD BE SENT OUT WILL NO LONGER NEED TO BE SENT OUT BECAUSE OF THIS.
AND VERY MINIMAL TAX REVENUE IS EVER REALIZED FROM THIS AN AMENDMENT TO COUNTY CODES APPENDIX C TO ELIMINATE THE $25 FLAT RATE BUSINESS LICENSE FLAT TAX FOR BUSINESSES WITH GROSS RECEIPTS BETWEEN 10,000 AND $50,000.
AND THEN AMENDMENT TO COUNTY CO APPENDIX C TO CREATE A $25 FLAT RATE BUSINESS LICENSE FEE FOR GLAND BASED CONTRACTORS AND SPECULATIVE BUILDERS AND APPLY THE ALREADY EXISTING TAX RATE OF 10 CENTS PER HUNDRED ON ALL CONTRACTORS AND SPECULATIVE BUILDERS WITH GROSS RECEIPTS IN THE COUNTY.
GREATER THAN $25,000 IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU MR. CARPENTER.
ANY QUESTIONS? YES, MR. UH, CARPENTER, COULD WE CONSIDER THIS A GOOD START AND THAT, UH, IN FUTURE BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS WE MIGHT, UM, ELIMINATE THIS TYPE OF TAXATION? IF, IF, IF MY MEMORY IS CORRECT, WHICH IT MAY NOT BE.
IS THIS THE WAR OF 1812 TAX? UM, I DON'T RECALL IF THAT'S THE EXACT TAX IT IS, BUT IT IS A GREAT START.
WELL, I'M THINKING OF THE BUSINESS PROFESSIONAL OCCUPANCY LICENSING TAX.
AND, AND SO THAT WAS ENACTED FOR THE WAR OF
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1812, WHICH I THINK WAS A DRAW, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO FIGHT THAT WAR ANYMORE.AND SO THE TAX MIGHT BE A LITTLE OUTDATED.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A TAX THAT'S OLDER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS ROOM.
MR. MR. WINFREY, UH, GETTING BACK TO CURRENT TIMES, UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOY NO, NO, NO.
I'LL NOW OPEN THE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE DAYS? OKAY, I'LL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE BOARD.
ADOPT, UM, LET'S SEE, UH, THIS ORDINANCE AMENDING THE RELATING TO SMALL BUSINESS TAX RELIEF.
ANY MOTION AND SECOND, ANY OTHER FURTHER DISCUSSION? YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT.
UM, I AM REALLY PROUD TO HAVE SERVED ON THIS BOARD NOW INTO MY FIFTH YEAR AND EVERY YEAR WE HAVE OFFERED SOME SORT OF TAX RELIEF, WHETHER IT BE FOR SENIORS, WHETHER IT BE FOR VETERANS, WHETHER, WHETHER IT BE FOR FARM EQUIPMENT OR THE BIG LIFT WE DID TO LOWER OUR PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LAST YEAR.
SO I'M VERY PROUD THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE AND, UM, TRYING TO KEEP MONEY IN OUR, OUR CITIZENS' POCKETS WHERE, 'CAUSE I THINK THEY'RE A MUCH BETTER SPENDER OF IT THAN WE ARE.
I'LL ALSO ECHO MR. SPOONER'S COMMENTS FOR THOSE WHO HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE FARMER'S MARKETS AT GO IN GLAND TO GO TO, UM, OUR CRAFT STORES THAT HAVE NUMEROUS VENDORS IN THEM.
THOSE ARE A MAJOR PART OF SMALL BUSINESSES AND WE SHOULD DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO FOSTER THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE FULL SPECTRUM OF BUSINESSES BEING A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN THRIVE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING OUT FOR THE BIG GUYS, WE'RE LOOKING OUT FOR EVERYBODY ACROSS THE SPECTRUM.
SO THIS IS A GREAT ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY, HAVING A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MR. CARPENTER, WILL YOU TAKE THE ROLE? YES, SIR.
[5. Ordinance amending Goochland County Code Chapter 11 (Purchasing; Surplus Property), Secs. 11-5 (Definitions), 11-21 (Conditions for use), 11-28 (Competitive Negotiation), 11-30 (Job order contracting; limitations), and 11-31 (Design-build; construction management contracts) to align the County’s procurement provisions with state law updates enacted by the 2023 and 2024 Virginia General Assembly and authorize implementation of guidelines for the selection, evaluation, and award of design-build and construction management contracts]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER FIVE.UM, ORDINANCE AMENDING GLAND COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 11, PURCHASING SURPLUS PROPERTY SECTIONS 11 FIVE DEFINITIONS 11 POINT UH DASH 21 CONDITIONS FOR USE.
11 DASH 28 COMPETITIVE NEGOTIATION, 11 DASH 30 JOB ORDERING, CONTRACTING LIMITATIONS AND 11 DASH 31 DESIGN BUILD CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACTS TO ALIGN THE COUNTY'S PROCUREMENT PROVISIONS WITH STATE LAW UPDATES ENACTED BY THE 2023 AND 2024 VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND AUTHORIZED IMPLEMENTATION OF GUIDELINES FOR THE SELECTION, EVALUATION AND AWARD OF DESIGN BUILD AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACTS.
MR. CARPENTER WILL PRESENT MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS THE BOARD.
TONIGHT I AM REQUESTING THREE ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO CURRENT PROCUREMENT PROCEDURES AS WELL AS ADOPTION OF A NEW POLICY AND ORDINANCE AMENDMENT RELATED SPECIFICALLY TO DESIGN BUILD PROCUREMENT.
THE FIRST ONE IS COOPERATIVE PROCUREMENT HB 1610.
THIS ALLOWS COOPERATIVE PROCUREMENT TO BE USED TO INSTALL PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT.
THIS IS STATE CODE CHANGE, UH, BOARD OF SUPERVISOR APPROVAL TO AMEND COUNTY CODE SECTION 11 DASH 21 IS REQUESTED.
THE NEXT ONE IS OBJECTIONS TO CONTRACT TERMS HB 2 42.
THIS REQUIRES ANYONE OFFERING TO STATE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THE COUNTY'S CONTRACT TERMS AND CONDITIONS AT THE TIME OF RESPONDING TO AN RFP.
THE NEW LAW PROHIBITS THE COUNTY FROM USING ANY STATED CONTRACT OBJECTIONS AS A BASIS FOR SCORING OR EVALUATE OR EVALUATING WHICH OFFERS ARE SELECTED FOR CONTRACT NEGOTIATION.
BUT THIS STILL ALLOWS, UM, THOSE OBJECTIONS TO BE CONSIDERED DURING THE NEGOTIATION PHASE.
THE BOARD IS APPROVAL IS REQUESTED TO AMEND COUNTY CODE SECTION 11 DASH 28 TO FILE STATE LAW AND THEN UM, UH, THE ADOPTION OF DESIGN BUILD POLICY CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND DESIGN BUILD CONTRACTS HB 1108.
THIS WILL AMEND THE PROCEDURES FROM WHEN THE COUNTY CAN USE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT OR DESIGN BUILD CONTRACTS FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS OPPOSED TO OUR NORMAL LOW BID OR DESIGN BID BUILD METHOD.
THE CHANGES INCLUDE NOT BEING ABLE TO CONSIDER THE CONTRACT IS PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH THESE TYPES OF CONTRACTS IS A FACTOR FOR PRE-QUALIFYING AS WELL AS A 10%
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CONTRACT LIMIT FOR WORK THAT CAN BE PERFORMED BY A CONSTRUCTION MANAGER DOES NOT APPLY TO INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.STATE LAW REQUIRES THE BOARD TO ADOPT A POLICY PRIOR TO USING EITHER THESE TYPES OF CONTRACT.
SO BOARD POLICY APPROVAL AND AMENDMENT OF COUNTY CODE SECTION 11 DASH 31 IS REQUESTED IN ORDER TO FOLLOW STATE LAW THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, UH, NO QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
UH, I'LL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
SEEING NO COMMENTS, I WILL CLOSE THE FLOOR MEMBERS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? OKAY, MR. UH, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M READING.
I MOVE THE BOARD ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
WHOOPS, THAT'S SMALL TAX RELIEF.
ALRIGHT, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO ALIGN THE COUNTY'S PROCUREMENT PROVISIONS WITH STATE LAW UPDATES ENACTED BY THE 2023 AND 2024 VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND GUIDELINES FOR THE SELECTION, EVALUATION AND AWARD OF DESIGN BUILD AND CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACTS.
THANK YOU MR. CARPENTER, WOULD YOU TAKE THE ROLE? MR. LYLE? AYE.
[6. Countywide - ZOA-2024-00001 Amendment to Zoning Ordinance (County Code Chapter 15) Secs. 15-233, 15-243, 15-253, 15-264 and 15-273 (District Standards) to remove floor area ratio (FAR) requirements in the Business, Neighborhood (B-N), Business, General (B-1), Commercial Interchange (B-3), Industrial, Limited (M-1), and Industrial, General (M-2) zoning districts]
AGENDA ITEM SIX.UM, COUNTYWIDE ZOA DASH 2024 DASH ONE AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 15, SECTION 15 DASH 2 33 15 DASH 2 43 15 DASH 2 53 15 DASH 2 64 AND 15 DASH 2 73 DISTRICT STANDARDS TO REMOVE FLOOR AREA RATIO FOUR REQUIREMENTS IN THE BUSINESS NEIGHBORHOOD BN BUSINESS GENERAL B ONE COMMERCIAL INTERCHANGE B THREE INDUSTRIAL LIMITED M1 AND INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO ZONING DISTRICTS.
MR. JOSH GILLESPIE WILL PRESENT CHAIR S MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
THIS ORDINANCE, THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT WAS INITIATED BY THE BOARD.
UM, SO WHAT IS FLOOR AREA RATIO IN THE CURRENT ORDINANCE? FLOOR AREA RATIO IS DEFINED AS DETERMINED BY DIVIDING THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF A STRUCTURE BY THE AREA OF A LOT.
RECENTLY WE'VE HAD A CHANGE TO THE CODE FOR THE FOLLOWING THREE SENTENCES FOR PROPERTY WITHIN A PROJECT THAT IS SUBJECT TO A PROFIT OR CONDITIONED, CONCEPTUAL OR MASTER PLAN.
THE FLOOR AREA RATIO IS DETERMINED BY DEFINING THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF ALL STRUCTURES WITHIN THE PROPERTY BY THE AREA OF LAND WITHIN THE PROJECT.
THE PROJECT SHALL INCLUDE ALL PROPERTY WITHIN THE MASTER PLAN AREA, EVEN IF FURTHER SUBDIVIDED AND WE WILL SHOW AN ILLUSTRATION OF THAT A LITTLE LATER WITH THE CALCULATION SHOWN.
BUILDING GROSS FLOOR AREA IN SQUARE FEET DIVIDED BY LOT, OR PROJECT AREA IN SQUARE FEET EQUALS THE FLOOR AREA RATIO, WHICH IS EXPRESSED AS A NUMERATOR OR AS A NUMBER FAR IS INTENDED AS A PLANNING TOOL TO EITHER JUST ENCOURAGE OR TO LIMIT INTENSITY THROUGH ZONING.
FAR MAY REGULATE THE SIZE OF BUILDING OR BUILDINGS ON AN INDIVIDUAL LOT.
THE SIZE AND LOCATION OF BUILDINGS CAN ALSO BE CONTROLLED THROUGH MASTER PLANS.
FAR CAN BE USED FOR SPECIAL DISTRICTS OR AREAS TO ANTICIPATE REGULATE, AND IN SOME INSTANCES ENCOURAGE THE BULK OF DEVELOP DEVELOPABLE DENSITY.
SOME CODES USE FAR IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER ZONING TOOLS AND PLANNING TOOLS, INCLUDING FORM-BASED INCENTIVE OR PERFORMANCE ZONING DEVELOPMENT CODES IN AREAS INTENDED FOR HIGHER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT, OFTEN USE A MINIMUM FLOOR AREA RATIO TO, TO ENSURE THAT DEVELOPMENT MORE FULLY CAPITALIZE CAPITALIZES ON PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENTS AND CONCENTRATES GROWTH TO THE PLANNED AREAS.
GLAND COUNTY'S CODE FOR ZONING PROVIDES A MAXIMUM FAR IN ALL THE COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS AS WELL AS THE RPUD AND THE MPUD DISTRICTS, WHICH OF COURSE HAVE A MASTER PLAN IN EVERY CASE.
SO FARRA IS A REGULATORY TOOL AS A STANDALONE TOOL.
FAR CAN BOTH RESTRICT AND ENCOURAGE DENSITY ON A PROPERTY.
ITS USEFULNESS IN EITHER SCENARIO IS ADDRESSED BY OTHER REGULATIONS AS WELL.
SO EXAMPLES OF FAR FLOOR AREA RATIO OF 2.0 OR TWO SHOWS WITH NO OTHER REGULATIONS SUCH AS SETBACKS.
IT COULD LEAD TO DESIGN AS SHOWN IN RED WITH, WITH OPEN SPACE PROVIDED AND NO HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, IT COULD LEAD TO WHAT'S IN BLUE.
SO IN BOTH CASES WE HAVE ON THE BOTTOM AND FLOOR AREA RATIO OF TWO, IT EITHER COVERS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY PLUS ONE FLOOR, OR IT COVERS HALF THE PROPERTY WITH FOUR FLOORS.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE, AN ILLUSTRATION OF THIS IS FOR AN INDIVIDUAL LOT.
IN THIS CASE, WE CAN WALK THROUGH THE NUMBERS A LITTLE BIT, BUT BASICALLY WE HAVE
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A SINGLE STORY BUILDING ON AN ACRE AND A HALF IN SCENARIO ONE, WHICH IS IN THE LEFT.AND IN SCENARIO TWO, WE HAVE A TWO STORY BUILDING WITH EACH FLOOR HAVING HALF THE SIZE OF WHAT WAS SHOWN IN THE ONE FLOOR BUILDING.
BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE A, AN FAR OF 0.4.
AND THIS PROJECT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT CAME BEFORE YOU LAST YEAR AND WAS PROMPTED BOTH AN INDIVIDUAL CODE AMENDMENT, THIS EXCUSE BE AN INDIVIDUAL EXCEPTION, AS WELL AS A CODE AMENDMENT.
AND IN THIS CASE, WE HAD A PROJECT AREA OF 5.76 ACRES.
THE BUILDING AREA TOTAL WAS 100 OVER, JUST OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
AND THE FAR OVER THE PROJECT WORKED OUT TO JUST UNDER 0.4.
HOWEVER, LOOKING AT INDIVIDUAL LOT USES, WE WOULD'VE HAD AN FAR, UM, THAT WAS DIFFERENT FOR THE THREE DIFFERENT USES OF STORAGE OFFICE AND COMMERCIAL.
SO IN AGGREGATE, THIS PROJECT IS DEVELOPED EXACTLY AS A PROJECT WOULD AT 0.4.
SO THAT PROMPTED A CHANGE, UH, CONSIDERATION BY THE BOARD TO INITIATE A CHANGE, TO INITIATE A STUDY OF WHAT FLOOR DO FLOOR AREA RATIO DOES AS A REGULATORY TOOL.
SO GLAND, IN ADDITION TO FAR, HAS OTHER REGULATORY TOOLS.
IT LOOKS AT THE LOCATION AND THE COVERAGE OF A BUILDING.
AND THIS ILLUSTRATION VERY ROUGHLY, UH, DIAGRAMS, SETBACKS, BUFFERS, ONSITE PARKING AND STORMWATER FEATURES.
SO SHOWN IN RED WE HAVE SETBACKS, WHICH ARE GENERALLY DETERMINED BY DISTRICT FROM ADJOINING PROPERTIES, INCLUDING ROADS BUFFERS, WHICH ARE SHOWN IN GREEN IN THIS CASE ON THE REAR, BUT NOT SHOWN ON THE SIDES IN FRONT IN MANY CASES.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, PRETENDING ON, DEPENDING ON WHO THE ADJOINERS ARE, BUFFERS ALONGSIDE AND POTENTIALLY ROAD FRONTAGES AS WELL ON ONSITE PARKING, WHICH VARIES IN SIZE AS A FACTOR, LIKE A FLOOR AREA RATIO FACTOR, UH, DEPENDENT ON THE AMOUNT OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO IT'S BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE USE.
AND THEN LASTLY, UM, IN MODERN DAYS WE HAVE STORMWATER FEATURES AND, UH, SOMETIMES STORMWATER FEATURES ARE UNDERGROUND AND THE AREA ABOVE THEM CAN BE USED FOR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT OFTEN THEY'RE ABOVE GROUND.
SO IT'S A LIMITING FACTOR ON SITE DEVELOPMENT AND INTENSITY AS WELL.
AND THEN IN ADDITION TO ALL THAT, A BASE REQUIRED IN ZONING IS THAT EACH DISTRICT HAS A HEIGHT LIMIT.
SOME DISTRICTS ALLOW INCREASED HEIGHT WITH GREATER SETBACKS.
SO YOU GET TO THE CONCEPT THAT I SHOWED IN, THAT'S SHOWN IN SCENARIO TWO, WHERE YOU HAVE A SORT OF A DEEPER SETBACK IN A TALLER BUILDING.
SO YOU ASKED STAFF TO STUDY THIS, AND WE CAME BACK WITH SOME, SOME POINTS ON WHY TO REMOVE THE FAR.
SO I'M GONNA START WITH BULLET TWO, WHICH REALLY UNDERPINS BULLET ONE.
SO THE SECOND BULLET POINTS OUT THAT WE HAVE A LIMITED, UH, INVENTORY AVAILABLE OF COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL LANDS AND THE VALUE OF THOSE LANDS TO HAVE FLEXIBILITY AND DESIGN.
SO YOU SAW THAT IN THE PROJECT DESIGN, IT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE TO HAVE DESIGNED TO THE FAR OF 0.4 BECAUSE OF THE STORAGE USE, WHICH HAS A GREATER MASS ON THE PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF HOW THE PROJECT WORKS WITH INTERRELATED USES, IT STILL GETS TO THE 0.4.
SO ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS IS, UH, AFFECTED BY HAVING A FLOOR AREA RATIO.
UH, MATHEMATICAL SCHEME FOR HOW DEVELOPMENT INTENSITY, UM, IS REGULATED.
BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO STAY IN A COUNTY TO BE RETAINED HERE, AND BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO EXPAND HAVE TO CHASE THIS AS WELL.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE OFTEN DEALING WITH EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT DEAL WITH.
SO IN ADDITION TO HAVING A FLEXIBILITY THAT'S NOT PRESENT, WE RISK THAT THE FLEXIBILITY NOT PRESENT FOR THOSE FOLKS ALSO LEADS TO DELAYS FOR A ZONING PROCESS FOR INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
SO IT MAY BE PERFECTLY SUITABLE, THE LAW MAY BE CHANGED AND THERE'S A TIME INVOLVED.
UH, AND A DELAY IN TIME AFFECTS THE PROCESS, EXCUSE ME, AFFECTS THE PROJECT.
SO GIVEN THAT WE HAVE LIMITED COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL LANDS AVAILABLE AND FLEXIBILITY IS IMPORTANT, WE WANT TO CONCENTRATE OUR GROWTH AND OUR DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS.
AND IN OTHER DESIGNATED CENTERS OF THE COUNTY, WHICH ARE, UH, OUR MAJOR VILLAGES.
AND WE TALKED, YOU TALKED ABOUT THOSE AT YOUR RETREAT, UH, AND LOOKING AT WHAT'S AVAILABLE, UM, BOTH WITHIN THE GROWTH AREAS AND WITHIN THE MAJOR VILLAGES, INCLUDING OILVILLE.
AND THEN BY DOING THIS, IT PROTECTS THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREAS FROM COMMERCIAL CREEP, NOT HAVING HANDS TIED TO A SPECIFIC FLOOR AREA RATIO ENCOURAGED HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY.
AND IF THE INTENSITY IS WARRANTED BY THE LOCATION, IT COULD BE MORE INTENSE.
IT DIRECTS COMMERCIAL INVESTMENT TO WHERE THE COUNTY HAS PLANNED, INVESTED, AND PROVIDED RESOURCES.
AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT OTHER REGULATIONS FROM SETBACKS, BUFFERS, ET CETERA, MINIMIZE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORS.
YOU ALSO HAVE IN THE PACKET THIS EVENING A MEMORANDUM THAT IT, THAT EXPLAINS BY USE
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WHY THE FA WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY DO NOT ACTUALLY YIELD THE REGULATORY EFFECT THAT WAS INTENDED.I THINK AT THE TIME THEY WERE PUT IN PLACE.
THE TWO MAPS ON THE LEFT AND RIGHT SHOW BASICALLY THE GROWTH AREA, UH, THAT'S, UH, THE GROWTH AREA IS DESIGNATED IN THE EAST END OF THE COUNTY, UH, INCLUDING THAT CURRENTLY BEING STUDIED BY THE SOUTHEASTERN INFRASTRUCTURE STUDY.
UM, AND ALL THOSE PROPERTIES THAT, UM, WE KNOW HAVE INDUSTRIAL M1 M TWO USES, UH, PLANNED AND ZONED THROUGH M1, M TWO, THOSE AREAS FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN RED, UM, AND THE TWO LIGHT AND DARK PURPLES AND PINKS.
SO IN RELATION TO THE REST OF THE COUNTY, THE INSET ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE SHOWS THAT BY CONCENTRATING IN THAT AREA AND IN SOME VERY LIMITED COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS AROUND THE COURTHOUSE AND SOME INTERSTATE INTERCHANGES, WE'RE ABLE TO, TO PRESERVE OUR RURAL CHARACTER, ENHANCE A RURAL CHARACTER AND PREVENT COMMERCIAL CREEP.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD PRIOR TO THIS GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THIS COMMUNITY MEETING, UH, WAS HELD IN THIS BUILDING.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF CITIZENS WHO ATTENDED AND THEY PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS.
AND I'M JUST GONNA READ THOSE.
SO WHY CHANGE FROM THE CURRENT CODE REVISION FAR BASED ON PROJECT LARGER BUILDINGS WOULD HAVE A GREATER IMPACT.
THE REMOVAL OF FAR MAY LEAD TO UNDESIRABLE BUSINESSES OR USERS.
A MAXIMUM FAR HELPS PROTECT GLAND CHARACTER.
THE BOARD CAN BE THE FINAL AUTHORITY FOR EXCEPTIONS.
AND LASTLY, SHOULD FAR BE INCREASED RATHER THAN ELIMINATED? PLANNING COMMISSION MET ON THIS, I'M SORRY, AT THEIR LAST MEETING IN JULY, UM, THERE WAS A LETTER OF SUPPORT RECEIVED FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, THE EDA.
THERE WERE THREE CITIZENS WHO DONATED TIME TO ONE SPEAKER WHO SPOKE IN OPPOSITION AND REPRESENTATIVES OF THE EDA AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT SPOKE IN SUPPORT.
IN THE END, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, AND THIS IS WHAT IS BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? BE HAPPY TO, EXCUSE ME.
I FORGOT TO ADD, UH, BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD, HEARING CITIZENS HAVE EMAILED COMMENTS TO STAFF AND TO THE BOARD.
THOSE THAT WERE EMAILED TO STAFF HAVE BEEN FORWARDED TO YOU, UH, IF YOU DO NOT RECEIVE THEM DIRECTLY.
ANY COMMENTS FROM SUPERVISORS? MR. CHRISTIE? UH, THIS MIGHT BE BETTER FOR CHIEF EDDIE OR SARAH.
UM, DO WHEN A NEW BUSINESS COMES IN, IF IT WERE TO EXCEED THE CURRENT FAR UH, STANDARDS, DO THEY COORDINATE WITH FIRE RESCUE? DOES THIS AFFECT FIRE RESCUE? GOOD EVENING BOARD, UH, SARAH WORLEY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR HERE FOR GLIN.
UM, I'LL LET CHIEF FERGUSON RESPOND, BUT IF A BUSINESS WERE TO COME IN AND DID NOT MEET OUR FAR, WHEN IT GOES THROUGH THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PLAN, REVIEW STAFF WOULD DO THE CALCULATION NOTE THAT IT DOESN'T MEET, AND THEY WOULD EITHER HAVE TO SHRINK THEIR BUILDING OR BUY ADDITIONAL LAND TO MEET IT, RIGHT? NO.
THAT, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M ASKING IS IF, IF WE GOT RID OF THE FAR OH, IF, IF, IF A NEW BUSINESS WERE TO COME IN, BUILD A, A BIG, A LARGE BUILDING, DO THEY CO DO THEY NORMALLY COORDINATE WITH FIRE RESCUE WHEN YES.
I, I MUST'VE MISUNDERSTOOD YOU.
UM, EVERY COMMERCIAL BUILDING GETS A COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMIT AND A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
FIRE AND RESCUE IS PART OF BOTH OF THOSE PROCESSES.
THROUGH OUR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, THEY'LL HAVE A COORDINATED REVIEW AND THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
DO YOU WANNA ADD ANYTHING TO THAT CHIEF? THANK YOU, MS. LEY, EDDIE FERGUSON, FIRE RESCUE CHIEF, AND MR. CHRISTIE.
THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT FROM FIRE RESCUE STANDPOINT, NO MATTER, UH, WHAT'S BEING BUILT WITH OR WITHOUT THE FAR, THEY WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE VIRGINIA STATEWIDE FIRE PREVENTION CODE.
AND OF COURSE, THE BUILDING CODE.
SO, UM, WHATEVER FIRE PREVENTION FEATURES ARE REQUIRED WILL STILL BE REQUIRED.
UH, THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE FIRE CODE.
UM, HOWEVER, UM, AT THIS POINT WE DO WORK CLOSELY WITH, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ON THIS, UH, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, OPPORTUNITIES ALONG THE PROCESS OF, UH, A BUSINESS SUBMITTING A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE FIRE RESCUE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND COMMENTS PER THIS FIRE PREVENTION, UH, CODE IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, MR. LAU? MR. CHAIR? UH, MY RECALL IS THAT THE CURRENT FAR REGULATIONS ARE RELATIVELY NEW.
I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL TIMELINE OF, OF GLAND, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS 2018 OR A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S A TAD EARLIER THAN THAT, UH, PRECEDING THE FAR, UH, THERE WAS A, UH, LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT.
AND SO THE FAR IS THE SUBSTITUTE FOR LOT COVERAGE, WHICH IS A MAXIMUM PORTION OF A PROPERTY, A PERCENTAGE BASICALLY, THAT COULD BE COVERED BY DEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S BUILDING OR, OR BUILDING AND PARKING
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AND OTHER HARD FEATURES.WHERE, WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS, I THINK MATT RYAN MAYBE WAS OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HEAD AT, AT DURING THAT ERA AS TO WHAT WAS THE MOTIVATION TO INTRODUCE VAR? WHY WAS IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD THING AT THE TIME? UH, BECAUSE I THINK, AS I'VE SHARED BEFORE, I TOOK THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER COURSE DOWN AT VCU BACK IN JANUARY, AND AFTER I GUESS THREE MONTHS, I'M NOWHERE NEAR AN EXPERT.
I JUST KNOW QUESTIONS THAT MAKE ME DANGEROUS.
SO I WAS TAUGHT THERE THAT FAR WAS A TOOL TO BE USED AND TO MANAGE GROWTH AS HAS BEEN SHARED HERE.
AND SO I'M CURIOUS WHY WE, WE, AS A COUNTY IMPLEMENTED IT.
I'LL JUST SAY 10 YEARS AGO, MAYBE A LITTLE FURTHER, AND, AND NOW IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA.
SO, MR. LA I'M SORRY THAT THE STAFF HERE DOES NOT HAVE THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE TO RECALL THE INTENT.
AS IT RELATES TO FAR AS A PREDICTIVE TOOL, UM, ESSENTIALLY KNOWING THAT EVERYBODY GOES 55 MILES AN HOUR DOWN THE ROAD ALL THE TIME MEANS THAT WE CAN CALCULATE THE CONSUMPTION OF FUEL IN A VEHICLE.
UM, BUT AS A REGULATORY TOOL, UH, IT HAS HAD A VERY SHORT LIFE.
AND AGAIN, IT FOLLOWS A LOT COVERAGE TOOL AND THEN FAR TOOL.
SO MY, MY IMPULSE IS TO GET RID OF REGULATIONS WHENEVER POSSIBLE.
I JUST, THE, THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IS WHERE I'M SURE STILL SLICING AND DICING.
ANYWAY, I, THERE WAS A REASON FOR PUTTING IT IN PLACE AND NOW WE'RE TAKING IT POSSIBLY AWAY, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO CONNECT THE DOTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? YEAH, I DO.
AND I, I THINK WE'VE NOT LOST KNOWINGLY 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW.
SOMEBODY MAY LOOK AND SEE, OH, WE HAVE A FAR REQUIREMENT AND THE PHONE NEVER RINGS.
'CAUSE THAT TAKES US OFF THE LIST RIGHT AWAY.
BUT I MEAN, CAPITAL ONE COMPLIED WITH PHARR, UH, CARMAX COMPLIED WITH PHARR, SHELTERING ARMS, COMPLIED WITH PHARR, UM, PROJECT ROCKY COMPLIED WITH PHARR.
I MEAN, SO IT, IT IS A HURDLE.
I I, AND I LIKE TO REMOVE HURDLES WHEREVER POSSIBLE.
BUT AS MY RECALL IS, NOBODY'S BEEN ABLE TO SAY, WE LOST THIS DEAL BECAUSE WE HAVE FAR AND AND I THINK WE WERE IN A MEETING JUST THE OTHER DAY AND I ASKED THE QUESTION, IS FAR A CONSIDERATION? AND IT WAS ALL ONE STORY BUILDING, SO THE ANSWER WAS NO.
BUT, UM, I'M, I'M JUST WRESTLING WITH WE'VE GOT THIS TOOL AND WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF IT.
AND, UH, I GUESS I'M STILL SO NEW TO THIS.
I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THE NUANCES OF WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IF, IF THIS WERE TO GO AWAY, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING RID OF REGULATIONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, I'LL NOW OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
I AM MIKE LUSCOMB, TWO 20 BROAD STREET ROAD, AND IC MY TIME TO ROB WILL LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD, AND I CAN SEE MY TIME TO ROB WILLIAMSON.
LARRY BARKER, 2170 MANNEQUIN ROAD SEATING MY TIME TO ROB WILLIAMSON.
I LIVE AT 2 2 6 2 WHEELING DRIVE, MANNEQUIN SABBATH.
I BELIEVE DATA CENTERS CAN BE MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS IMPORTANT, SO IS GOOD GOVERNANCE AND QUALITY DEVELOPMENT, BUFFER, SETBACKS, ET CETERA THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED ARE DIMENSIONAL LIMITS.
ALL DIMENSIONS BEING EQUAL, FAR AS THE ONLY INDICATOR OF INTENSITY INSIDE A COMMERCIAL BUILDING SIZE IS ONLY PART OF IT AS THE RATIO INCREASES.
SO DOES THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PUBLIC SERVICES AS PRESENTED.
IF YOU JUST LOOK AT ONE LOT WITH JUST ONE BUILDING, YOU MIGHT THINK, WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL? WELL, HERE'S THE BIG DEAL.
CAN WE AGREE? AVERY POINT WITH ITS 500 PLUS EMS CALLS A YEAR IS MORE INTENSE THAN CAPITAL ONE.
EVERY POINT HAS A LOT MORE GOING ON INSIDE THAT AFFECTS COUNTY SERVICES.
THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF INTENSITY.
FAR AS NOT JUST A LOT LIMIT, FAR AS A PROTECTION FOR THE WHOLE DISTRICT.
ALL THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS COMBINED.
IF EVERY SINGLE PARCEL IN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS HELD TO THE LIMITS, THEN THE COUNTY SERVICES WON'T BE OVER OVERBURDENED BY DESIGN.
AND I THINK THAT'S A LOT OF THE QUESTION THAT, UH, MR. LYLE ASKED ON WHY DID WE HAVE IT? IT'S NOT JUST A LOT LIMIT.
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IT'S FOR THE ENTIRE COMMERCIAL, UH, FOOTPRINT IN THE COUNTY.IF THOSE LIMITS AREN'T EXCEEDED BY AVERAGE, THEN WE'RE PROTECTED FROM OVERBURDENING, FIRE AND RESCUE, ET CETERA.
I BELIEVE WE SHOULD REPEAT THE EXTRA AT METHOD.
IF WE ELIMINATE FAR, THEN THE PROJECT LEVEL GAINS THAT WERE JUST PREVIOUSLY SHOWN WILL BE GONE TOO.
IS IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A 20? WHY DO, WHY DO WE HAVE IT AND OTHER PEOPLE DON'T? IS IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A 20 ACRE DESIGNATE, A 20,000 ACRE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA? IS IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE PRESSURES OF SHORT PUMP URBAN SPRAWL? THOSE ARE FACTORS TO BE CONSIDERED.
ALSO, YOU'RE BEING ASKED TONIGHT TO ELIMINATE FAR FROM ALL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE OVERKILL TO ME FOR THIS ISSUE.
WHAT IS THE URGENCY WE HAVE TIME TO GET FAR RIGHT PER, PER DATA CENTER DYNAMICS.COM, AMAZON ANNOUNCED A 1.7 MILLION SQUARE FOOT DATA CENTER ON 153 ACRES IN LOUISA COUNTY.
IF WE APPLIED OUR M1 LIMITS, WHICH IS WHERE DATA CENTERS ARE LOCATED, WHAT WOULD BE THAT FAR? IT CALCULATES TO LESS THAN 0.26.
THAT'S HALF OF WHAT OUR MAX LIMIT IS FOR M1.
THAT'S A DATA CENTER THAT I COULD SUPPORT.
AMAZON HAS GONE ON TO PURCHASE ANOTHER 1400 ACRES IN LOUISA, AND THAT'S ENOUGH FOR 38.
IT'S A DIFFERENT NUMBER NOW THAT'S MORE LAND THAN OVER A DOZEN DATA CENTERS.
IF WE WERE TO USE OUR M1 FAR LIMITS, LOUISA DOESN'T USE FAR THE WAY WE DO BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
THEY CREATED A TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY.
DISTRICT DATA CENTERS MUST BE ON 125 ACRES WITH 20% OPEN SPACE.
A 1.7 MILLION SQUARE FOOT DATA CENTER ON 125 ACRES IS STILL FAR BELOW OUR LIMIT AT 0.3.
BUT LOUIS ALSO HAS 300 FOOT BUFFERS FOR AGRICULTURAL LAND.
200 FOOT BUFFERS FOR, UH, DATA CENTERS AGAINST RESIDENTIAL.
150 FOOT BUFFERS ON ROADS, MAIN ROADS, AND A HUNDRED BUFFERS, A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFERS ON SECONDARY ROADS.
A HUNDRED FOOT SET BACK WHEN ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USES, YOU KNOW WHAT, OUR LIMITS ARE 30, BUT NEXT TO COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, IT DROPS TO 10 FOR THEIR DATA CENTERS.
WE DON'T HAVE DESIGN STANDARDS SPECIFICALLY FOR DATA CENTERS.
WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PLACED DATA CENTERS IN OUR M1 PERMITTED USE.
MAYBE IT'S TIME TO REVISIT THAT.
AND AGAIN, WHAT'S THE RUSH TO ELIMINATE FAR IN ALL THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS? WE HAVE BIGGER FISH TO FRY IN ORDER TO GET A DATA CENTER.
LOOKING AT THE PACKAGE THAT WAS PRESENTED AND THE MEMO THAT WAS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, YOU'VE HEARD OPPORTUNITIES FOR LARGE TRACKS OF LAND ARE GETTING MORE AND MORE SCARCE.
INDUSTRY IS ADVOCATING TO GO VERTICAL ON SMALLER AND SMALLER PARCELS OF LAND INDUSTRY SALES PITCHES AND BROCHURES ARE FOR ALLOWING FAR UP TO AND EXCEEDING 1.0 AND JUSTIFICATIONS FOR ELIMINATING FAR AND JAMMING DATA CENTERS ON SMALLER AND SMALLER LOTS.
SO WHAT I SEE IS I SEE AN INDUSTRY THAT IS DESPERATE FOR LOCATION THAT SHOULD BE GOOD FOR US.
WHAT I'M HOPE I'M NOT SEEING IS A COUNTY DESPERATION FOR A DATA CENTER THAT'S ONLY GOOD FOR THEM.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS, THINGS BETWEEN US AND A DATA CENTER, AND I DON'T SEE FAR BEING HIGH PRIORITY.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU NEED HIGH VOLTAGE POWER.
WE ONLY HAVE TWO SUBSTATIONS IN THE WHOLE COUNTY, AND BOTH ARE PROBLEMATIC FOR COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REASONS.
ONE IS IN THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA AND THE OTHER IS NOT THE MOST DESIRABLE PLACES.
INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT FAR, MAYBE WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT SUPPORTING THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, GETTING THE WATER POTENTIALLY TO OILVILLE OR ANY OTHER PROPOSED SITES.
AGAIN, I ASK, WHAT'S THE HURRY IN ELIMINATING FAR FROM ALL COMMERCIAL, LET'S SAY IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A BARRIER TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
WELL, AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, ZERO EXAMPLES OF IT BLOCKING, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DURING THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
ZERO EXAMPLES TONIGHT, ZERO EXAMPLES.
I HAPPEN TO TALK TO A DEVELOPER FROM OUTSIDE THE AREA WITH AN INTEREST IN GOLIN.
I ASKED HIM, DO FORWARD LIMITS EVER AFFECT YOUR DECISIONS ON WHERE YOU LOOK? AND HIS ANSWER WAS NO.
I ASKED, WELL THEN WHAT'S THE STANDARDS THAT MOST AFFECTS YOUR DECISION? HE SAID, HEIGHT.
I, I SAID, IF TONIGHT YOU WERE BEING ASKED TO ELIMINATE HEIGHT FROM ALL THE COMMERCIAL, WOULD YOU? I'M BETTING YOU WOULDN'T.
IF NOT, WHY NOT? ELIMINATING FOREST SHOULD HAVE THAT SAME LEVEL OF HESITATION.
NOW, IF YOU'RE STILL CONVINCED FORESTS ARE BURY TO DATA CENTERS, INSTEAD OF SCRAPPING THE FAR, LET'S DEFER THIS AMENDMENT AND DO SOMETHING THAT IS REASONABLE AND SIMPLE.
I HOPE YOU READ MY EMAIL ON OUTLINING FAR OPTIONS TO KEEP TARGET LIMITS
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FOR PERMITTED USES AND ALLOW FLEXIBILITY IN A PROVEN FAR HIGHER FARS.WHY NOT GO INTO M1 AND FLAG DATA CENTERS IS NOT APPLICABLE.
WHY NOT GO INTO M1 AND FLAG FAR FOR DATA CENTERS AS FAR LIMITS CAN BE EXCEEDED WITH BOARD OF SUPERVISOR'S APPROVAL VIA THE CUT PROCESS.
OR EVEN BETTER, WHY NOT GO INTO M1 AND FLAG DATA CENTERS, DISTRIBUTION CENTERS OR WHATEVER USES YOU DESIRE AND FLAG THOSE ITEMS THAT THEY CAN EXCEED FAR WITH BOARD OF SUPERVISOR APPROVAL AND A CUT PROCESS, IF YOU'RE STILL CONVINCED FAR IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
DO THE SAME FOR ALL THE OTHER COMMERCIAL, UH, DISTRICTS.
GO IN THERE AND FLAG THAT, PUT AN ASTERISK NEXT TO FAR AND, AND DECIDE THAT THEY, THOSE APPLICABLE LIMITS CAN BE EXCEEDED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, REVIEW APPROVAL AND USE THE CUT PROCESS TO DO IT.
THIS ALLOWS EXCEEDING FAR ON THE THINGS WE WANT, KEEPING LIMITS ON WHAT WE DON'T.
THAT'S HOW YOU PREVENT UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.
PLEASE CONSIDER DEFERRAL OF THIS CURRENT AMENDMENT DIRECT SENSIBLE UPDATES THAT KEEP FAR AS A RELEVANT TOOL WITH A LEVEL OF FLEXIBILITY DESIRED.
IF WE DO THAT, WE CAN HAVE BOTH IN OUR QUEST FOR DATA CENTERS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
I'M AT 2011 SYCAMORE CREEK DRIVE, MANNEQUIN SABOT.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT GAPS, CONTRADICTIONS, AND SUBJECTIVE ASSUMPTIONS IN STAFF'S FAR ANALYSIS.
FOR INSTANCE, STAFF'S ANALYSIS IS DESIGNED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT ELIMINATING FAR WILL NOT LEAD TO AN INCREASE IN THE FOOTPRINT OF BUILDINGS.
WHEN A STAFF'S PRINCIPAL ASSUMPTIONS IS THAT IF HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS REMAIN IN PLACE, THEN BUILDING BULK WILL ALSO BE CONTAINED.
BUT STAFF'S ANALYSIS DOES NOT CONSIDER IS THAT FAR, IS NOT JUST ABOUT POSITIONING STUFF ON A LOT.
IT'S ALSO ABOUT HOW DENSE THE INTENSITY IS INSIDE THE BUILDING.
BOTH QUALITATIVE AND QUANTITATIVE INTENSITY OF LAND DEVELOPMENT WILL DETERMINE THE CHARACTER AND LOAD ON GLAND COUNTY SERVICES GLAND'S.
CURRENT BUFFER SETBACK, HEIGHT, PARKING, AND STORMWATER ORDINANCES ARE NOT EQUIVALENT IN CONTROLLING INTENSITY.
THESE STANDARDS DO NOT PROVIDE REDUNDANCY TO FIRE REGULATIONS EITHER INDEPENDENTLY OR IN COMBINATION.
REMOVING FIRE AS PROPOSED WILL DIMINISH THE COUNTY'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND DIRECTION RELATING TO INTENSITY OF USE THAT COULD OVERBURDEN COUNTY RESOURCES.
THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, MORE TIME AND PLANNING EFFORTS WILL BE NEEDED ADDRESSING SUBSTATIVE PROJECTS VIA SUBJECTIVE PROCESSES THAT WOULD OTHERWISE SIMPLY BE IDENTIFIED BY FAR AS NON-COMPLIANT.
SOME MAY THINK THAT ELIMINATING A LOWERING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS COULD BE A WAY TO SOLICIT COMMERCIAL TAX REVENUE.
BY DOING SO, WOULD IGNORE THE POTENTIAL FOR HARM TO GLAND THAT COULD BE INTRODUCED BY SUBSTANDARD PROJECTS.
AND ILL-CONCEIVED COST BENEFIT ASSUMPTIONS.
I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS YOUR INTENTION TO ATTRACT SUBSTANDARD DEVELOPMENT THAT OUR NEIGHBORING LOCALITIES MAY NOT WANT OR EVEN ALLOW.
WE UNDERSTAND SOME OPPORTUNITIES MAY REQUIRE EXCEPTIONS TO GO ABOVE OUR REGULATIONS DEEMED BENEFICIAL TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UNFORTUNATELY, STAFF'S ANALYSIS DOES NOT OFFER ALTERNATIVE APPROACHES, ASSESS POTENTIAL RISKS AND REPERCUSSIONS OR CONSIDER OTHER RELEVANT AND MATERIAL INFORMATION THAT IS NEEDED FOR YOU TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
TOTAL REMOVAL OF FAR WITH NO OTHER PROVISIONS TO PERFORM INTENSITY EVALUATIONS IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
IT'S IMP PRUDENT AND SHORTSIGHTED.
ROB WILLIAMSON, UH, PRESENTED CONSTRUCTIVE, EASY TO UNDERSTAND APPROACHES BOTH TONIGHT AND IN PRIOR COMMUNICATIONS WITH PHARR CAN BE USED IN DIFFERENT INEFFECTIVE WAYS.
PHARR IS A TOOL THAT HELPS PRESENT THE CLEAREST PICTURE OF SITE DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF ROB ACTIVITIES.
IT ALL ALLOWS, PARTICULARLY RELATES TO ATTRACTING DATA CENTERS AND IN SUPPORT OF OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONSIDERATION.
INSTEAD OF REMOVING FAR REQUIREMENTS, WE RECOMMEND CHANGING THE FAR REGULATION TO BETTER ENABLE OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO POTENTIALLY REVIEW OPPORTUNITIES IN A MORE MANAGEABLE AND PRUDENT WAY.
THERE'S MUCH TO CONSIDER, PLEASE VOTE TO DEFER REMOVAL OF FAR AS PRESENTED IN TONIGHT'S MATERIAL.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MR. COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, MADAM COUNSEL, ADAM SECRETARY.
I RESIDE AT 2 0 5 2 MAINTENANCE ROAD MAINTENANCE VIRGINIA 2 3 7 0 2.
UH, I ALSO SERVE AS CHAIRMAN OF THE GLAND COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
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AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE ELIMINATION OF THE FAR, JUST LIKE THE WAR OF 1812 TAX.THE FAR REGULATION IS OUTDATED FOR THE MODERN TECHNOLOGY AGE.
IF YOU LOOK AT BATTERY PLANTS, IF YOU LOOK AT ROBOTIC PLANTS, IF YOU LOOK AT DATA CENTERS, THERE IS A COMPETITION OUT THERE, NOT ONLY JUST WITHIN VIRGINIA, BUT IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.
AND WE HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE.
THERE'S NOT A SINGLE COUNTY AROUND US, INCLUDING CHESTERFIELD THAT HAS FAR REGULATIONS.
WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER REGULATIONS, THERE ARE OTHER TOOLS IN THE BAG THAT ALLOW YOU TO DICTATE WHAT CAN BE DONE IN OUR LIMITED SPACE.
IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO OUR MEDIAN ON THE 24TH, WE HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LIMITED DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS.
THIS IS NOT A COUNTYWIDE SITUATION WITH COMMERCIAL IMPLEMENTATION.
THIS IS VERY SPECIFIC TO THOSE DGAS.
IF WE DO NOT ENABLE THAT GROWTH TO OCCUR WITH THESE TYPES OF TECHNOLOGY FACILITIES, WE'RE GONNA BE LIMITED OUT.
AND THE COMPETITION AROUND US, WHETHER IT BE LOUISA PALATAN IN RIKER, CHESTERFIELD, VIVANA ANYWHERE IS GOING TO COMPETE.
IT'S JUST LIKE HANOVER DOESN'T HAVE A WAR OF 1812 TAX.
IT'S A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GONNA LOSE OUT BY HAVING OTHER TOOLS THAT ARE DESIGNATED THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THROUGH YOUR, UH, COUNCIL AND, AND THEN, UH, VOTING THAT WILL ELIMINATE ANY TYPE OF, UH, PROCESS, OR EXCUSE ME, ANY TYPE OF INVOLVEMENT OF BUILDINGS AND TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE NOT APPROPRIATE WITHIN THIS COUNTY.
AND I THINK WHAT WE WANT IN TERMS OF THE 70 30 SPLIT GROWING TOWARDS AIR FOR BUSINESS AND MAINTAINING OUR 85 15 RULE COMMITMENT.
SO THOSE BUILDINGS THAT, UM, WILL FIT WITHIN THIS, WE'RE NEVER EVEN GOING TO GET TO BECAUSE A LOT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS ARE ON UNDER NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS.
WE CAN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT 'EM IN PUBLIC.
SO WE'RE NOT EVEN GETTING ON THE RADAR OF CERTAIN TYPES OF BIDS AND OPPORTUNITIES.
THEREFORE, I WILL SUGGEST TO YOU AS I PRESENTED, UH, TO THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE LETTER THAT WE SENT THAT, UH, CAME FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AS SUPPORTING OF GETTING RID OF THE FAR REQUIREMENT.
ANY ADDITIONAL CITIZEN COMMENTS? OKAY.
SEEING NO MORE COMMENTS, I'LL CLOSE THE FLOOR.
WOULD STAFF LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING THAT WAS PRESENTED? OKAY.
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MR. SPINOFF? MR. CHAIR? I MOVE THE BOARD ADAPT ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT OF THE ZERO OA 2 20 24 0 0 1 TO REMOVE FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENT FROM BUSINESS, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.
IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION MR. LAU? UM, THIS, THIS IS, THEY'RE ALL INTERESTING.
UH, I DON'T CARE WHAT WE CONSIDER.
I, I'M, I'M, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE INTERESTING.
AND THIS ONE, UH, AS I WAS GOING THROUGH MY BOARD PACKET OVER THE WEEKEND, UM, I WAS READY TO VOTE TO ELIMINATE FAR.
AND, AND THEN I HAD A MEETING WITH MY PLANNING, NOT MY MEETING THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER FROM DISTRICT FIVE AND ASKED HIM WHY HE VOTED TO RETAIN FAR.
AND, AND SO I HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY THAT WE HAVE SOME CONCERT BETWEEN THE TWO OF US BECAUSE WE'RE A TEAM.
AND, AND, UH, I WAS SWAYED BY HIS COMMENTS.
AND, AND SO, UH, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY, I I THINK WE'RE ALL EQUALLY ENTHUSED ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY.
UH, I I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WANT TO SEE ANYTHING BUT GROWTH IN AN INTELLIGENT AND MANAGED WAY.
SO, UH, I, I APPRECIATED WHAT WE WENT THROUGH ON THE, NOT WENT THROUGH, BUT, UH, EXPERIENCED ON THE 24TH.
I I, I'M HIGHLY ENAMORED OF THE CONCEPT OF A DATA OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT WOULD BY RIGHT, ALLOW DATA CENTERS TO COME INTO THE COUNTY AND DESIGNATED AREAS THAT WE SUGGEST IS GOOD FOR THEM.
UH, THE, THE COMMENTS ON MANAGING INTENSITY, UM, HAVE RESONATED WITH ME.
UM, I, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE THAT WE CAN MAKE CHANGES FURTHER ON, BUT AT THIS MOMENT I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE KEEPING FAR ON THE BOOKS.
AS, AS MS. WORLEY KNOWS, WE WERE IN A MEETING, UH, MONDAY OR TUESDAY, AND THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, IS FAR GOING TO PREVENT THIS FROM OCCURRING? AND AGAIN, IT WAS A ONE STORY
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BUILDING, BUT, UH, THE ANSWER WAS NO.SO I, I, I GUESS I AM INTERESTED IN MEASURING TWICE, CUTTING ONCE AND, UH, UH, BECAUSE NO ONE SEEMS TO KNOW WHY WE PUT FAR ON THE, ON THE BOOKS.
AND NOBODY HAS SHOWN ME WHERE WE'VE LOST A DEAL BECAUSE OF OUR, UH, I'M, I'M MORE COMFORTABLE MOVING SLOWLY ON THIS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. SPAU? YEAH.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I, I APPRECIATE THE CITIZENS', UH, COMMENTS REGARDING, UH, RUSHING TO THIS.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT AN APPLICATION, IF, IF I UNDERSTAND THE NUMBERING OF APPLICATIONS, AND THIS IS 0, 0 0 1, SO THIS IS THE FIRST ONE FROM THIS YEAR.
I, I CAN'T, DON'T, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ANYTHING BUT RUSHED.
UM, AND I, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING THAT DOES NOT, THAT OPENS US UP TO ADDITIONAL RISK THAT WE DON'T HAVE OTHER, WE, WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD SEVERAL PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT.
WE, WE'VE GOT TOOLS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS COMING THAT WE ARE, THAT, THAT WE ARE HOPING TO SEE.
UM, AND TO ME, THIS GOES TO WHAT MR. LAO, YOU SAID EARLY ON, WHICH IS, HEY, WE CAN, IF WE CAN LIGHTEN THE HAND OF GOVERNMENT AND IT MAKES SENSE, AND WE PROTECT THE CITIZENS TO GROW GULAM THE WAY THAT THEY EXPECT THEM, UM, I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
ANYWAY, UM, MS. CHRISTIE, MS. UM, WE PASSED A PRETTY BIG BUDGET LAST YEAR AND, YOU KNOW, I CAMPAIGNED ON KEEPING GOLAND RULE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO GIVE EVERYBODY SOME OF, AT LEAST THE SERVICES THAT THEY WANT.
AND I FEEL LIKE IF WE HAVE ANY TOOL THAT LIMITS OUR, OUR CHOSEN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR OPPORTUNITIES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO PAY FOR SOME OF THESE SERVICES TO KEEP OUR TAXES FLAT, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD REMOVE IT.
WE SHOULD NOT HAVE BARRIERS THAT WE CAN'T EVEN EXPLAIN, UM, LIMITING OUR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO I, I THINK I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND IN, IN REGARDS TO THE, THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING A A, THIS AS A CUP PROCESS.
UM, I, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S GONNA WORK WITH A, A LARGE CAPITAL INVESTMENT, UH, WHO WOULD COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, SPEND A HUNDRED MILLION, $500 MILLION ON A BUILDING OR, OR A PROJECT WHEN THEY, THEY MAY ONLY HAVE IT FOR FIVE YEARS.
IT JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
MS. B, COULD YOU GO TO SLIDE 57, PLEASE? OR MR. GILLESPIE, COULD YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 57? I JUST WANT TO TOUCH ON SOME OF THESE POINTS MADE DURING THE PRESENTATION.
SO, UH, I THINK MR. GILLESPIE PUT IT WELL, BUT ECONOMIC, UH, COMPETITIVENESS AND DEVELOPMENT IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO MANAGING OUR TAX REVENUE BASE IN THIS COUNTY.
THOSE WHO SAY THERE ARE ZERO EXAMPLES OF A DEAL BEING LOST ARE A LITTLE SHORTSIGHTED IN THIS ARGUMENT.
UM, WHEN WE GET PASSED OVER, BECAUSE WE ARE SHOWING THAT WE ARE OVERREGULATING IN OUR PROCESSES, THE INDIVIDUAL WHO PASSES US OVER DOES NOT GIVE US A COURTESY CALL TO TELL US THAT WE ARE BEING PASSED OVER.
WE GET A CHANCE TO PRESENT OURSELVES AS A COUNTY THAT IS BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND OPEN FOR INVESTMENT.
AND WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POTENTIALLY TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND HOPEFULLY MORE, WE WANT TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
WE NEED TO SHOW WELL ACROSS THE BOARD.
WE CAN'T HAVE ISSUES THAT SHOW OVERREGULATION.
SO I'VE, THE ARGUMENT THAT THERE ARE ZERO EXAMPLES HOLDS NO WATER IN MY OPINION.
AND MR. SLOAN HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
THESE ARE NON-DISCLOSURE, CONFIDENTIALITY ISSUES.
WE CANNOT HAVE EXPECT EXPECTATIONS THAT WOULD BREACH LAW.
WE HAVE FIDUCIARY DUTIES NOT ONLY TO OUR CITIZENS, BUT NOT TO BREAK THE LAW AND GO AGAINST WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD IN CONFIDENCE.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ELECTED TO DO.
THOSE ARE HARD DECISIONS THAT WE ARE TASKED TO MAKE.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT GET DONE IN THESE PROCESSES.
GENERATING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS A PROCESS.
IT IS NOT A SIMPLE BINARY OCCURRENCE WHERE ONE THING, ONE DECISION IS MADE AND THE NEXT THING HAPPENS.
IT IS A LONG DRAWN OUT PROCESS.
AND WHY WOULD WE TURN SOMEBODY AWAY? 'CAUSE WE SHOW THAT WE ARE OVERREGULATING ON THE FRONT END.
WE WANT TO SEE THESE POTENTIAL BUSINESSES COME TO US AND BE WILLING TO WORK WITH US THROUGHOUT THESE LONG PROCESSES.
WE CAN'T BE SHORTSIGHTED AND SAY, OH YEAH, WE'RE GONNA BE BURDENSOME ON
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THE FRONT END.AND WHY DID WE LOSE THIS DEAL? THAT'S A PROBLEM THAT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE OVER TIME.
AND THE WORST SITUATION WE COULD BE IN IS LOOKING 10 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD SAYING, WELL, WHY DON'T WE HAVE ENOUGH BUSINESSES, NEW BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN ATTRACTED TO GLAND COUNTY? OH, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT STUFF IS LOST, THAT IS DRIVEN BY AT 55 MILES AN HOUR, AND WE ARE A DOPE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD LOOKING AT THEM AS THEY'VE GONE BY IN THEIR SPORTS CAR.
WE NEED TO BE AHEAD OF THE GAME, BE FORWARD THINKING, AND BE FRIENDLY TO BUSINESSES WHO WANT TO COME TO GOOCHLAND.
THERE'S ANOTHER THING WE HAVE TO TELL OURSELVES EVERY SINGLE DAY.
PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES WANT TO BE IN GLAND COUNTY AS MR. UM, AS ONE OF THE APPLICANTS EARLIER TODAY SAID HE WAS LOOKING AROUND AND LAND JUST HAPPENS TO BE INCREDIBLY VALUABLE IN GLAND.
WE ARE A PLACE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE.
AND SO WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO ENCOURAGE THAT AND FOSTER THAT.
AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GIVEN AWAY ALL THE MILK FOR FREE BY ELIMINATING FAR.
I MEAN, THAT IS, THIS IS A SMALL STEP IN SHOWING THAT WE ARE INCREDIBLY BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND NOT OVER REGULATORY, IN MY OPINION.
SO, UM, THANK YOU MR. SPOON, HOWER FOR YOUR MOTION AND SEEING NO OTHER DISCUSSION.
I'LL ASK MR. CARPENTER TO TAKE THE ROLE.
[7. District 4 - CU-2024-00016 Application by Luck Stone Corporation d/b/a Luck Companies requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for uses accessory to a quarry on 70.18 acres east of Ashland Road on Tax Map No. 48-1-0-73-E. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2) and Industrial, General (M-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Secs. 15-112 and 15-272 in accordance with Sec. 15-283.F. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Flexible Use.]
TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.THAT IS, UH, IN DISTRICT FOUR CU DASH 2024 DASH 16 APPLICATION BY LUX STONE CORPORATION, DOING BUSINESS AS LUCK COMPANIES REQUESTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR USES ACCESSORY TO A QUARRY ON 70.18 ACRES EAST OF ASHLAND ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBER 48 DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH 73 DASH E.
THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO AND INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO.
THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTIONS 15 DASH ONE 12 AND 15 DASH 2 72 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 15 DASH 2 83 F.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS FLEXIBLE USE.
MR. GILLESPIE, UM, IS GOING AHEAD AND PRESENT.
UH, THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS IN DISTRICT FOUR.
IT IS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, THIS WOULD BE AN EXPANSION OF, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND REZONING PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, WHICH I'LL DETAIL TOTAL, 70.18 ACRES.
IT'S ONE MILE EAST OF ASHLAND ROAD.
IT IS SPLIT ZONED, AS YOU CAN SEE, AGRICULTURAL, UH, LIMITED A TWO INDUSTRIAL GENERAL M TWO.
AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS FOR FLEXIBLE USES.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED IN THE MAP ON THE LEFT AND THE, UH, GENERALLY WHAT IS CALLED THE, UM, KIND OF THE NORTHEAST END OF THE COUNTY, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE NORTH MOST AND EASTERN MOST, UH, AREA OF THE COUNTY NEAR ASHLAND ROAD.
AND, UM, SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED IN THE AERIAL MAP ON THE RIGHT.
UH, WE'LL NOTE ALSO THE DISTANCE TO ASHLAND ROAD, UM, TRAVELS OVER THE 6 23 LANDFILL, WHICH IS THE IMMEDIATE JOINER TO THE WEST LUX STONE QUARRY TO THE NORTH, THE VULCAN QUARRY.
UM, THERE, THERE'S ALSO THE LEHIGH ASPHALT PLANT TO THE NORTH AND GOING AROUND THE CLOCK, UH, RESIDENTIAL USES IN HENRICO COUNTY TO THE EAST AND DOWN TO THE SOUTH WHERE THE GLAND COUNTY, UM, WORDS ARE.
THE ZONING MAP SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED SPLIT BETWEEN THE M TWO ZONING AND THE A TWO AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ZONING PROPERTIES IN HENRICO COUNTY ARE ZONED AGRICULTURAL A ONE.
COMPREHENSIVE PLANS FOR GLAND COUNTY, FOR GLAND COUNTY IS FOR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES AROUND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IN ITS NEIGHBOR'S NORTH AND SOUTH ARE FOR, ARE FOR FLEXIBLE USES, UH, WHICH ARE DEFINED ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
AND IN HENRICO COUNTY FOR RURAL RESIDENTIAL.
UM, LOOKING AT THE USES IN THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH, YOU CAN SEE, I'LL GO AROUND THE CLOCK AGAIN, TO THE NORTH PROPERTIES ARE WOODED.
THERE'S A VACANT TRACT APPROVED FOR EXPANSION OF THE LUX STONE QUARRY.
QUARRIES TO THE NORTH HAVE BEEN OPERATED FOR 45 PLUS YEARS.
THE VULCAN PLANT, 60 PLUS YEARS LOCK STONE AND THE ASPHALT PLANT LEHIGH FOR 30 PLUS YEARS TO THE EAST.
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL IS LOCATED IN HENRICO COUNTY.
THOSE ARE THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF WESTERN ESTATES PLA 2012 TO 2015.
AND WEST RIDGE, WHICH PLOTTED CIRCA 1977 PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH ARE MOSTLY VACANT.
PROPERTIES TO THE WEST INCLUDE A CONSTRUCTION, DEMOLITION LANDFILL, NOT AS 6 23 LANDFILL AND LEESVILLE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE LAST 40 PLUS YEARS.
UM, THE IMAGES ON THE SCREEN SHOW THE PROPERTY, UH, AREA
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IN 1994 AND 2004, AND IN 1994 YOU CAN SEE LUX STONE, VULCAN, CORY LEHIGH ASPHALT AND 6 23 LANDFILL.AND AGAIN, SUBJECT PROPERTY IN THE CENTER.
AND ON THE RIGHT, SAME AREA, AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH IN 2024 WITH LUX STONE, VULCAN, CORY LEHIGH ASPHALT AND 6 23 LANDFILL.
THE ZONING BACKGROUND, MOST RECENT ZONING BACKGROUND ON THIS IS THAT IN 2011 THROUGH 12, THERE WERE THREE REZONING AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPLICATIONS THAT WERE APPROVED FOR QUARRY AND ACCESSORY USES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES IN YELLOW, AND I'LL INDICATE ON THIS MAP, UH, EVERYTHING ON THE MAP ON THE RIGHT IS FROM THE 2011 CASES, THERE WERE THREE THAT WERE PROCEEDING, UH, TOGETHER.
HOWEVER, IT'S BEEN ANNOTATED WITH A PURPLE DASH LINE, SO I'M USING THE PURPLE.
WE'RE USING THE PURPLE HERE, SIMILAR TO THE PURPLE PURPLEISH BOUNDARY AROUND THE YELLOW SHAPE IN THIS IMAGE.
SO THAT IS NOT, UH, THAT IS ANNOTATION ON TOP OF THE ORIGINAL.
UM, THE USES THAT WERE ALLOWED AT THE TIME INCLUDED BORROW PIT OPERATIONS, ANCILLARY STONE PROCESSING, SUBSTANTIAL BUFFERS AND NEW MATERIALS, RECYCLING FACILITY, AND OTHER ACTIVITIES FOR QUARRY AND CONSTRUCTION AND COMMISSION, EXCUSE ME, AND CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS LANDFILL.
UM, THESE ARE OUTLINED TO THE DIFFERENT COLORS AND, UM, RELATE TO THE CASE.
THE PRESENT CU APPLICATION AREA OUTLINED WITH THE PURPLE DASH LINE DOES NOT IMPACT ANY OF THE PREVIOUS APPROVALS ON THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES, UH, WITH ONE EXCEPTION RELATING TO TO BUFFERS, WHICH WE'LL SPEAK TO IN A MOMENT.
UM, AND WOULD EXTEND THE BAR PIT INTO THE LIGHT GREEN AREA, WHICH PREVIOUSLY WAS NOT PROGRAMMED FOR ANY USE, UM, WHICH WAS ALL LIMITED TO THE YELLOW AREA.
THE PROFFERED BUFFERS, UH, SHOWN HERE ARE IN TWO PARTS.
AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE TWO ZONING CASES THAT CAME IN TOGETHER IN 2010.
NUMBER TWO, NO CHANGES, UH, TO THAT WITH THIS PROPOSAL.
IT'S NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION TO THE NORTH, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT'S A 350 FOOT BUFFER, WHICH COULD BE REDUCED TO 205 FEET WITH A BERM, AS LONG AS THE BERM HAD A MINIMUM HEIGHT OF 3 35 FEET.
IN THE PRESENT APPLICATION OF THE AREA TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S A 350 FOOT BUFFER, AND THERE WAS NO PROVISION TO REDUCE THE BUFFER WIDTH.
SO THAT'S WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY.
THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THIS CONCEPTUAL PLAN WITH THE APPLICATION AND REQUEST THE FOLLOWING CHANGES FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT BORROW PIT ACTIVITIES BE SUPPLEMENTED WITH OVERBURDENED STOCKPILES THAT THE BERM BE INCORPORATED INTO, THAT A BERM OR IN BERMS BE INCORPORATED INTO AN OVERBURDENED STOCKPILE, THAT THE AREA FOR OVERBURDEN PLACEMENT INCREASES AND THE AREA FOR STONE PROCESSING EXPANDS.
AND THERE'S SOME GRAPHICS THAT SHOW THIS IN A LITTLE, UH, LITTLE GREATER DETAIL WITH SOME ARROWS ON LATER SLIDES.
SO THE CONCEPT OF INCORPORATING THE BERM INTO THE OVERBURDENED STOCKPILES OUTSIDE OF THE 50 FOOT PUFFER OF UNDISTURBED VEGETATION IS KEY TO THIS CASE, UH, BEING DIFFERENT, UH, AS, AS BASICALLY AN EXPANSION OF THE 2012 CONCEPT WITH, UH, AN ARTICULATED BUFFER.
SO THE IDEA IN 2012 WAS THAT THERE WOULD BE A BUFFER, WHICH WOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 35 FEET HEIGHT, UM, ON THE NORTHERN SIDE, BUT THERE WAS NO SPECIFICATION FOR ANY KIND OF BUFFER OR OVERBURDEN ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION.
WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT IF WE NEED TO.
AND 2024, THE DIAGRAM ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THIS IN CROSS SECTION.
SO WE SEE A, UH, KIND OF A SIMPLE BUFFER TO THE NORTH OR ON THE UPPER PART OF THE SCREEN IN 2012, AND, UM, A BUFFER IN MANY PARTS IN 2024.
THIS SLIDE IN THE FOLLOWING SLIDE, HAVE, UH, PHASES ONE THROUGH FIVE.
AND FOR SIMPLICITY, THIS SLIDE SHOWS WHAT WOULD, UH, BEGIN IN PHASE ONE WITH A 35 FOOT MINIMUM BUFFER TO MEET THE STANDARDS TO THE NORTH, UH, THAT WERE ESTABLISHED BY THE PREVIOUS CASE, UM, THROUGH WHAT WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE BUILD OUT IF CONSTRUCTED IN THE FIFTH PHASE, PHASE FIVE.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS PHASE ONE IN CONSTRUCTION, PHASE TWO WITH, UM, BACKFILL BEHIND A BERM.
SO PHASE ONE WOULD BE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE INITIAL BERM.
PHASE TWO WOULD BE THE BERM IN THE BACKFILLING BEHIND THAT BERM TO BEGIN, UM, TO LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR A SECOND LEVEL.
AND THAT TERRACE WOULD BE STEPPED BACK AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
PHASES FOUR AND FIVE COMPLETE THE PROCESS OF GOING TO THE TOP BERM.
UM, I WILL NOTE HERE AND THEN LATER THAT THE CONCEPT OF THE BERMING IN 2012 AND PRESENT IS TO PROVIDE AN OPAQUE SCREEN, AN OPAQUE BUFFER, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE VEGETATION THAT'S THERE PRESENTLY, THAT WOULD REMAIN UNDISTURBED AT 50 FEET.
IT WOULD PROVIDE AN OPAQUE BUFFER BEYOND
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THAT, NOT PRESENT, UH, WITH TREES.UM, AND IT WOULD PROVIDE A HARD, UM, PHYSICAL SEPARATION FOR THE TRAVEL OF NOISE.
IT WOULD BLOCK NOISE AS WELL THROUGH THAT SOLID BUFFER, SOLID BERM.
THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS, UM, AGAIN, IN 2012, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VIEWED, BUT JUST SAME, SAME, UM, DOCUMENTS LOOKED AT EARLIER.
THERE WOULD BE NO CUP ACTIVITIES IN THE LIGHT GREEN AREA.
AND THEN IN 2024, THE PURPLE BOUNDARY SHOWS THAT THE LIGHT GREEN AREA WOOD IS PROPOSED TO HAVE AN OVERBURDENED PLACEMENT AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A BUFFER, IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE 50 FOOT UNDISTURBED AREA.
AND SO, UM, IT WOULD GO UP AS SHOWN IN THE PHASES ONE THROUGH FIVE.
THE CURRENT APPLICATION PROPOSES TO ALIGN THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH, UM, BECAUSE THEY HAD DIFFERENT STANDARDS IN 2012.
AND THE IDEA IS THAT A SINGLE STANDARD IS MORE APPROPRIATE.
UM, IT ALSO INCREASES THE AREA OR, UH, EXPANDS THE AREA FOR STONE PROCESSING SHOWN IN PINK ON THE RIGHT FROM THE 2024 APPLICATION IN THE AREA.
THAT WOULD CORRESPOND ON THE LEFT KIND OF THE, UH, UPPER LEFT QUADRANT OF THE AREA OUTLINED IN PURPLE.
SO THE BERM FOR ADDED BUFFER WOULD PROVIDE AN OPEC SCREEN AND BLOCK SOUND AS THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, DESCRIBED THIS GRAPHIC SHOWS, UH, HOW THE AREA FOR STONE PROCESSING WOULD EXPAND.
IT'S RELATED, UH, ADJOINING AN AREA WHERE, UM, FILL AND ACCESSORY QUARRY ACTIVITIES ALREADY OCCUR.
AND THE STONE PROCESSING, AND THIS WILL BE EXPANDED BEHIND, UH, WHAT IS PROPOSED TO BE THE NEW OVER BURN PLACEMENT AND BUFFER AREA.
IT IS LIMITED BY A STREAM, AND SO THAT'S THE PHYSICAL BOUNDARY TO THE SOUTH.
THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING ON MAY 22ND, 2024, APPROXIMATELY 30 INDIVIDUALS FROM THE COMMUNITY AND 50 LUCK COMPANIES ASSOCIATES ATTENDED AS WELL AS INCLUDING, UM, IN THOSE INDIVIDUALS, GLAND, COUNTY SUPERVISORS, LY AND WINFREY.
HE ROCHA COUNTY SUPERVISOR WHITEHEAD AND GLAND COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSIONER COSBY.
TOPICS COVERED IN THE OPEN HOUSE FORMAT AT THE MEETING INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING.
AND I'M GONNA READ THESE BECAUSE THIS IS NOT PRESENTED QUITE THIS WAY IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.
THIS HAS BEEN, UM, SUMMARIZED FOR, UH, FOR BREVITY HOPEFULLY.
SO THE EXISTING ZONING, WHICH HAS BEEN COVERED ON THE SCREEN HERE AND IN, IN GREATER DETAIL IN THE STAFF REPORT, UH, FOR YOU AND THE NECESSITY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO EXPAND THE STONE PROCESSING AREA AND CHANGE THE OVERBURDEN PLACEMENT IN THE BUFFER DESIGN.
UH, AN OVERVIEW AND QUE AN OVERVIEW OF THE 2012 CASES AND THE ASSOCIATED CONDITIONS ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AND THE LIKE OF HEIGHT, THE LACK OF HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS AND SETBACKS ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WERE BOTH DISCUSSED AND IN A Q AND A FORMAT, UM, ABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY AND HOW IT WAS, UH, WOULD CHANGE IN THE PROPOSAL.
QUESTIONS, UH, CAME UP BUT ALSO WERE, UH, PRESENTED FROM DEVELOPMENT PLANS OVERALL FOR THE PROPERTY, THE LONG-TERM PLAN, AND THAT THIS HAS BEEN PART OF THE LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT IS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD IN THIS APPLICATION.
THOSE PLANS INCLUDE STONE PROCESSING AND OVERBURDEN PLACEMENT, THE PLACEMENT OF BERMS, BUFFERS, LANDSCAPING, AND THE VIEW SHEDS RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT.
THE HEIGHT OF THE BERM, SETBACKS, PLANTINGS, AND THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT POTENTIAL AMENITIES WITHIN THE BUFFER AREA, SPECIFICALLY TRAILS.
UM, IT WAS A DISCUSSION OF PROJECT SETBACKS, INCLUDING THE DISTANCES FROM DWELLINGS.
AND LASTLY, THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS AND TIMELINE, UM, WHICH WERE IN THE PHASING DIAGRAM ONE THROUGH FIVE.
SOME CONCERNS WERE DISCUSSED, INCLUDING DUST, AND THOSE WERE ADDRESSED, UH, ONE-TO-ONE FROM THOSE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE DIRECTLY WITH LUCK COMPANY ASSOCIATES IN THE MEETING OR WERE OFFERED, UH, TO SPEAK AFTER THE MEETING RELATED TO DUST AND THE REGULATIONS, UH, THAT COME FROM THE STATE RELATED TO DUST NOISE, BOTH DURING THE BERM CONSTRUCTION AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE BERM.
NOISE RELATED TO SECONDARY AND TERTIARY STONE PROCESSING ON THE PROPERTY.
TODAY, THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND THE CONVEYOR BELTS RUNNING OUTSIDE OF BUSINESS HOURS, NOISE FROM THE NEIGHBORING LEHIGH ASPHALT PLANT AND THE HOURS OF OPERATION AT THAT PLANT, WHICH ARE NOT THE SAME AS AT, UH, LUX STONE.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, UH, SPECIFICALLY STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WETLANDS, WILDLIFE, AIR QUALITY AND VIEWS, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND THERE WAS A STATEMENT ABOUT, UH, THAT THERE WAS MISINFORMATION, NOT FULL INFORMATION PICTURE ABOUT THE PROJECT PRIOR TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY THAT ACCESS BE PROHIBITED FROM CANE ROAD OR AX HANDLE LANE AREA EXCEPT IN EMERGENCIES.
AND SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT OTHER COMPARABLE LUCK COMPANIES OPERATIONS WITH CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AT THE MEETING AND IN OTHER COMMUNICATIONS, LUCK HAS MADE TWO COMMITMENTS AND ONE IS TO ALIGN THE DESIGN
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STANDARDS ON BOTH, ON BOTH.THE NORTHERN PROPERTY, WHICH AS DESCRIBED EARLIER, WAS APPROVED IN 2012 WITH NO HEIGHT RESTRICTION AND A 15 FOOT UNDISTURBED SETBACK.
LUCK WILL EXPAND THE UNDISTURBED VEGETATIVE BUFFER ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY FROM 15 FEET TO 50 FEET AND LIMIT THE OVERBURDEN PLACEMENT HEIGHT TO 150 FEET ON BOTH PROPERTIES WHERE NO MAXIMUM EXISTS TODAY.
AND SECONDLY, TO APPLY THE EXISTING APPROVED 2012 CUP CONDITIONS TO THE CP REQUEST.
AS IT MOVES FORWARD, UH, IN, AS, AS IT EXPANDS TO THE SOUTH, THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THE KEY POINTS OF THE PROJECT.
IT CONTINUES USES THAT ARE ACCESSORY TO QUARRY OPERATIONS.
IT CONTINUES A 350 FOOT WIDE BUFFER THAT WAS APPROVED THROUGH A REZONING CASE, RZ 20 10 0 1 ON THE ABUTTING PROPERTY TO THE NORTH, WHICH HAD TWO PARTS OF 50 FOOT UNDISTURBED EXISTING VEGETATION ALONG THE EASTERN PROPERTY LINE WATERING HENRICO COUNTY AND TO THE WEST OF THE 50 FOOT BUFFER, A 300 FOOT WIDE BERM AT A TWO TO ONE SLOPE THAT WOULD BE VEGETATED.
IT INCORPORATES BERMS INTO THE OVERBURDENED STOCKPILE AND THAT AS WAS SHOWN, UH, AS PHASE ONE AND PHASES TWO THROUGH FIVE IN THE PHASING PLAN AND INCREASES THE AREA TO BE USED FOR OVERBURDENED STOCKPILES.
SO AS PROPOSED FOR THE AREA IN LIGHT GREEN, WHICH IS ZONED DAY TWO AND WAS PREVIOUSLY EXCLUDED FROM CUP RELATED ACTIVITY, IT ESTABLISHES A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 150 FEET AND IT INCREASES THE HEIGHT OF THE OVERBURDENED STOCKPILE AS IT BUILDS IN A WESTERLY DIRECTION.
SO IT GIVES IT A TERRACE WITH A PROFILE SHOWN IN THE CROSS SECTION.
IT INCREASES THE AREA FOR STONE PROCESSING, UH, WHICH IS NOW LOCATED ALONG THE WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND, UH, PROVIDES THAT ACCESS TO ASHLAND ROAD WOULD BE INTERNAL TO LOCK STONE WITH EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY THROUGH OTHER ROADS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THE PROPERTY FOR FLEXIBLE USES.
ADJOINING PROPERTIES IN GLAND COUNTY ARE, ARE A PLAN FOR EITHER FLEXIBLE OR INDUSTRIAL USES.
FLEXIBLE USES GENERALLY SUPPORT OFFICE, COMMERCIAL OFFICE SERVICE AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES AND EXCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AND HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES TO COMPLY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
CUP CONDITIONS ARE INTENDED TO MITIGATE IMPACTS TO NEARBY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, TO MINIMIZE IMPACTS TO PUBLIC ROADS, TO ENSURE CONDITIONS REGARDING MATTERS OF PUBLIC SAFETY THAT ARE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED AND OTHERWISE FULLY MEET ZONING, BUILDING HEALTH, AND OTHER CODE REQUIREMENTS AS CURRENTLY CONDITIONED.
THE USES PROPOSED WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR FLEXIBLE USES.
AND THE JULY 18TH, 2024 PUBLIC HEARING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A FIVE OH VOTE.
FOUR CITIZENS, INCLUDING INCLUDING HENRICO SUPERVISOR WHITEHEAD FOUR CITIZENS, INCLUDING SUPERVISOR WHITEHEAD FROM HENRICO, REQUESTED THE COMMISSION DEFER THE CASE TO ALLOW TIME FOR CITIZENS OF HENRICO TO MEET WITH THE APPLICANT TO DISCUSS AND BETTER UNDERSTAND THE, EXCUSE ME, BETTER UNDERSTAND THE REQUEST, THE REQUEST THAT GLAND HAS RECEIVED.
NO FURTHER COMMENTS AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
THE COP CONDITIONS HERE, UH, INDICATE THOSE CHANGES SINCE THE COMMISSION'S PUBLIC HEARING THAT WERE BLACKLINED.
SO IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS HEARD AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND AS WE UNDERSTAND MAY HAVE OCCURRED BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND NEIGHBORS AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME ITEMS THAT WERE, UM, THAT WERE ALTERED AND THOSE ARE SHOWN HERE IN BLACKLINE AND I, I HAVE SOME, EXCUSE ME, THE STAFF HAS A COMMENT WHERE THOSE OCCUR.
UH, NO CHANGES IN CONDITIONS ONE AND TWO.
CONDITION THREE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, UM, HAS BEEN, UM, AMENDED TO ADD THE TITLE OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS ATTACHED.
UH, THIS HELPS FOR RECORD KEEPING SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY WHAT WAS DONE.
SO IT CLARIFIES THE PLAN TITLE, NO CHANGES IN FOUR OR FIVE AND SIX, NO CHANGES IN SEVEN SEVEN E BERMS. AND, UH, AGAIN, HAS BEEN, UH, MODIFIED SLIGHTLY TO INDICATE THE PLAN ATTACHED IS THE EXHIBITS.
THERE'S NO CHANGE FOR WHAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION.
IT JUST VERY CLEARLY IDENTIFIES THAT THESE ARE THE EXHIBITS TO BE USED, UH, HENCE FORTH AND FOREVERMORE WITH THE TITLE.
AND SO THIS WAS IMPORTANT, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE IT INCLUDES SOME CROSS SECTIONS AND DETAILS OF THE BERMS AND BUFFERS THAT ARE NOT OBVIOUS IN PLAN VIEW, LOOKING STRAIGHT DOWN ON THE PROPERTY, IT'S THE CROSS SECTION VIEW.
UH, THIS SECTION RELATED TO THE BUFFER, UH, HAS BEEN AMENDED AFTER CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT.
SO THERE IS A FENCE LINE THAT EXISTS AT THE EDGE OF THE APPLICANT'S PROPERTY TO THE EAST ALONG, UM, THE NEIGHBOR ALONG THE, UH, BOUNDARY WITH THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
SO THIS INDICATES THAT OUTSIDE OF THE FENCE, 50 FEET BEYOND INTO THE PROPERTY, THAT THE WESTERN LIMIT OF THE BUFFER WILL BE MARKED BETWEEN THE NORTH AND SOUTH PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN THE NORTH AND SOUTH PROPERTY LINES WITH SIGNS STATING PROTECTIVE
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50 FOOT UNDISTURBED BUFFER AREA, THE SIGNS HAVE TO BE, MUST BE PER PERPETUALLY MAINTAINED AND BE NO MORE THAN 200 FEET APART.UH, AGAIN, STAFF NOTES, UH, MAKES COMMENT THAT THE FENCE EXISTS.
THIS PROVIDES FOR ADDITIONAL MARKING TO PROTECT THE BUFFER.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO REASON FOR ANYONE TO NOT UNDERSTAND WHERE THE BUFFER IS LOCATED.
NO CHANGES IN THESE CONDITIONS FROM WHAT WAS PROPOSED AND PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AGAIN, MANY OF THESE CONDITIONS CARRY FORWARD FROM THE PREVIOUS CUP, UH, RELATED TO LIGHTING.
GLAND COUNTY HAS, UH, SUBSEQUENTLY ADOPTED A DARK SKY COMPLIANT, UH, REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE.
THIS LANGUAGE IS NOT NECESSARY, BUT JUST IN CASE THE CODE WERE TO EVER CHANGE AND REMOVE THE CONDITION FOR DARK SKY COMPLIANT LIGHTING, UM, THIS CONDITION WOULD BE A ZONING CONDITION REQUIRING THAT THIS CASE HAVE DARK SKY COMPLIANT LIGHTING SETBACKS REMAIN AS PROPOSED THAT, UH, NO CLOSER THAN 650 FEET FROM THE EASTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY.
AGAIN, THE STONE CRUSHING PROHIBITION CARRIES FORWARD FROM THE CUP, UM, FROM 2012, SAME WITH THE CONDITIONS RELATED TO BLASTING TOXIC CHEMICALS AND HOURS OF OPERATION.
HOWEVER, HOURS OF OPERATION WAS ALTERED, UM, IN AN ATTEMPT TO, UM, TO MAKE THIS, UH, MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE USE IN OUR STANDARD CONDITIONS RELATING TO QUARRIES.
UH, THIS WAS, UH, CONVERTED BY STAFF FROM THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL FOR HOURS OF OPERATION TO FIVE O'CLOCK TO SEVEN O'CLOCK.
AND IN TALKING WITH THE APPLICANT, WE REALIZED THAT THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SEVEN O'CLOCK TO FIVE O'CLOCK.
AND SO TO BE CONSISTENT WITH CURRENT CUP CONDITIONS ON THE REST OF THE PROPERTY, THIS HAS BEEN ADJUSTED BACK TO SEVEN TO FIVE, AND THE LANGUAGE FOR TREE REMOVAL AND OVERBURDEN PLACEMENT, UH, WAS ADDED.
SO THIS BRINGS TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE ADJOINING PROPERTY AT CU 20 12 0 4, WHICH WAS THE APPLICANT'S INTENT.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE TRANSFER, AT LEAST CONDITION IS THE STANDARD CONDITION THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
ANY SUPERVISORS HAVE QUESTIONS? MR. KOSPI? UH, YEAH.
IN YOUR, UH, PRESENTATION, DID YOU SAY THAT IT WAS 650 THAT THEY CAN'T STAGE WITHIN 650 FEET OF THE BURN? IT IS STONE CRUSHING WITHIN 650 FEET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF MR. GILLESPIE? I, I KNOW THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
UM, AND READY TO PRESENT? YEAH.
DID YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? I'M SORRY.
SO DO YOU HAVE THIS PRESENTATION? NO.
WAS THE PRESENTATION FROM THE ONLY COMMISSION? IT WAS, YES.
SO PART OF ME A MOMENT, I'M GONNA PULL THAT UP.
LET'S, ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO GO YEAH, TAKE A, UH, WILL NOT TO DISRUPT.
SO IF ANYONE NEEDS A QUICK BREAK FOR FACILITIES, TWO OR THREE MINUTES, PLEASE.
WHERE'S THAT ONE? AS CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CARPENTER? GOOD EVENING.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF OUR MID-ATLANTIC GREENFIELD TEAM FOR LUCK COMPANIES.
UM, OUR CORPORATE OFFICE ADDRESS IS 5 1 5 STONE MILL DRIVE.
THAT'S MANNEQUIN SABOT, VIRGINIA 2 3 1 0 3.
AND IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT TO PRESENT OUR PROJECT, UH, TO THE BOARD.
UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MINUTE AND I WANNA RECOGNIZE STAFF AS WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF FOR ALMOST 18 MONTHS TO TRY TO MAKE THIS THE BEST PROJECT POSSIBLE FOR GLAND COUNTY, BUT WE RECOGNIZE THE SENSITIVITIES OF WHERE OUR PROJECT LIES IN BETWEEN GLAND AND HENRICO, AND WE'VE TRIED WHERE POSSIBLE TO MAKE THIS THE BEST PROJECT FOR BOTH COMMUNITIES.
WHERE I'LL START IS TO SAY THAT LAST YEAR WE, UH, CELEBRATED OUR A HUNDRED YEAR ANNIVERSARY AS A COMPANY.
IN 98 OF THOSE YEARS WE'VE BEEN IN GLAND COUNTY, IN DISTRICT FIVE, THE ADDRESS THAT I JUST PROVIDED TO YOU THIS EVENING, OUR BASKETBALL QUARRY BEHIND THAT.
WE MOVED FROM RICHMOND, UH, JUST A FEW YEARS AFTER 1923 AND HAVE BEEN THERE EVER SINCE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SEEK TONIGHT IS AT OUR ROCKVILLE FACILITY WHERE WE'VE BEEN FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS.
AND THAT LIES IN DISTRICT FOUR.
UM, WE'RE VERY PROUD OF OUR LONGEVITY AT LUCK COMPANIES, BUT WE ARE IN AN INTERESTING TIME.
WE ARE GROWING AND THERE'S SOME TRANSITION TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE COMPANY, WHICH IS EXCITING FOR US.
YOU SEE THE PICTURE THERE OF CHARLIE AND, AND RICHARD LUCK.
RICHARD WILL TAKE OVER AS PRESIDENT IN THE FALL AND CHARLIE WILL MOVE INTO MORE OF A CHAIRMAN AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER ROLE.
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FOUR LEADER GENERATIONAL LEADERS OF LUCK WHO'VE TAKEN THE HELM FOR THE COMPANY.YOU KNOW, WE'VE GROWN FROM A SLEEPY LITTLE AGGREGATE COMPANY IN THE, THE CITY OF RICHMOND TO A COMPANY THAT EMPLOYS ALMOST A THOUSAND PEOPLE TODAY.
UM, OVER 200 OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WORK IN GLAND COUNTY, BUT WE CAN ALSO SAY THAT HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES LIVE AND WORK THROUGHOUT THE GREATER RICHMOND REGION.
AND WE LIKE TO THINK WE PLAY A SMALL ROLE IN, IN THE REGIONAL ECONOMY WHERE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, THE LUCK FAMILY, UH, LOOKS AT OUR INVESTMENT HERE AS MORE THAN JUST A BUSINESS.
I THINK I CAN SAY THIS WITH CONFIDENCE.
THIS IS HOME TO THREE GENERATIONS OF LUCK, FAMILY MEMBERS.
AND WE LOOK AT THIS AS A PARTNERSHIP.
AND WE HOPE THAT THE COUNTY HAS LOOKED AT THIS AS A PARTNERSHIP FOR DECADES.
WE DON'T LIKE TO TALK VERY MUCH ABOUT OURSELVES.
WE KIND OF LIKE TO LET OUR ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN OUR WORDS, BUT WE HOPE THAT YOU'VE SEEN THROUGH OUR ACTIONS AND OUR INVESTMENTS IN THE COMMUNITY, WHETHER THAT'S SUPPORTING OUR LOCAL FIRST RESPONDERS OR THAT'S SUPPORTING LOCAL NONPROFITS, OR PARTNERING WITH OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM AND OUR TRADES AND TECHNICAL SCHOOLS TO TRY TO FIND WAYS THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH TO PARTNER.
WE ALSO HAVE LOOKED TO PARTNER WITH OTHER LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES TO TRY TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO THEIR NEEDS.
AND THIS GOES BEYOND JURISDICTIONAL LINES.
WE HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED WE CARE AT HANOVER, THAT WAS CREATED BY CHARLIE LUCK III, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE SEEKING A PERMIT TONIGHT IN GLAND COUNTY.
WE, WE DON'T SEE THE JURISDICTIONAL ALLIANCE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHERE WE MAKE INVESTMENTS IN THAT PROGRAM.
WE INVEST THROUGHOUT THE RICHMOND REGION WITH OUR TIME AND TALENTS, UM, THROUGH EVERYTHING FROM EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES WITH OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS, UH, TO EVEN DOWN TO LITTLE SPIRIT ROCKS FOR, FOR OUR LOCAL, UH, SCHOOLS.
SO WE DO LIKE TO, UM, TRY TO TOUCH THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WHERE POSSIBLE.
EQUALLY IMPORTANT TO US IS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP AND OUR MISSION STATEMENT AROUND, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL PRACTICES.
UH, THEY'RE NOT BUZZWORDS FOR US, AS YOU ALL CAN IMAGINE.
AND WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE TALK ABOUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS TONIGHT.
IT'S EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO GET ANYTHING PERMITTED TODAY, AND WE RECOGNIZE IF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL TRACK RECORD ISN'T STELLAR, IT WILL MAKE IT THAT MUCH HARDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE APPROVALS DOWN THE ROAD FOR OTHER PROJECTS, WHETHER THEY'RE IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY OR OUTSIDE OF THE REGION OR THE STATE.
YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE'RE INVOLVED WITH STREAM RESTORATION PROGRAMS AND RIVER CLEANUPS, BUT THE CITIZENS AND PEOPLE WANT TO TRULY KNOW WHAT DOES YOUR TRACK RECORD LOOK LIKE? AND THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY IS THE AGENCY THAT MONITORS THAT IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA.
AND WE'RE PROUD OF THAT TRACK RECORD.
WE'RE PROUD OF WHAT DEQ SAYS ABOUT OUR ROCKVILLE OPERATION.
AND OVER THE LAST 60 YEARS, I CAN SHARE WITH YOU THAT WE'VE NEVER, THAT'S A STRONG STATEMENT.
WE HAVE NEVER HAD AN AIR OR WATER QUALITY PERMITTING ISSUE AT OUR ROCKVILLE FACILITY.
BETTER YET, I CAN ALSO SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY RECOGNIZES LUCK IN THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL EXCELLENCE PROGRAM AS AN EXEMPLARY STATUS, WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND MEETING WATER AND AIR PERMITTING QUALITY REGULATIONS.
THAT'S TIER ONE TO FOUR IN THE STATE OF VIRGINIA'S PROGRAM.
SO WE ARE AT A THREE OUT OF FOUR, FOUR BEING THE BEST.
AND WE HAVE EXCEEDED THAT EXPECTATION FOR THE LAST YEAR.
WE HAVE ACHIEVED THAT EXPECTATION OF THE LAST 10 YEARS.
SUBMITTED TONIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS THE BOARD FOR THE RECORD.
UH, WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT OUR MOST RECENT RECOGNITION BY THE VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY.
UH, RECOGNIZING OUR ROCKVILLE FACILITY THIS PAST YEAR.
UM, ACTUALLY WAS WE RECOGNIZED US HERE IN 2024, UM, AS AN EXCELLENCE IN A RECLAMATION PROJECT.
UH, WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK AN AREA OF OUR OPERATION THAT WE COULD EVENTUALLY MINE FOR AGGREGATE AND TURN IT INTO GREEN SPACE ORCHARDS, BEE BOXES, AND AN OVERLOOK JUST TO NAME A FEW.
UH, AND WE'RE PROUD OF, PROUD OF THIS RECOGNITION AND PROUD OF THESE, THESE AWARDS, BUT WE TAKE OUR ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP VERY SERIOUSLY.
WHAT I THOUGHT I'D WANNA DO TONIGHT, AND AND STAFF DID A WONDERFUL JOB OF UNPACKING, UH, BUT AS WE WOULD ADMIT IS, IS FAIRLY SEVERAL LAYERS OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON THIS PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY AN EASY CASE.
SO WE WANT TO, AGAIN, RECOGNIZE AND THANK STAFF FOR THEIR EFFORTS.
WHAT WE DID WANNA DO IS CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS 'CAUSE WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE RECORD.
UM, WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SEEK A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TONIGHT ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY.
WE SOUGHT THAT AND RECEIVED THAT BACK IN 2012.
WHAT WE DO WANT TO COMMIT TO AS CITIZENS OF, OF HENRICO IS THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY, TRY TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS WHERE WE CAN, UM, STAFF OUTLINED THOSE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO COMMIT TO TODAY.
BUT WE'VE ALREADY REACHED OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND INDICATED, AND WE WANT TO NOTE THIS FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD, THAT WE HOPE THESE CONVERSATIONS WILL BE ONGOING.
AND BEFORE WE BEGIN ANY CLEARING ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY, WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, WE WILL MEET WITH THE CITIZENS ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, UH,
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TO HEAR THEIR CONCERNS AND TO SHARE WITH THEM WHAT OTHER MODIFICATIONS WE COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE ON THAT PROPERTY.BUT TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE TO SEEK A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ON THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
THAT IS BEFORE YOU IN OUR GDP.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THIS PROJECT IS CRITICAL FOR OUR FUTURE OPERATIONS.
WE HAVE OPERATED IN GLAND COUNTY AT OUR ROCKVILLE FACILITY FOR 60 YEARS, BUT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE FOR THE NEXT 60, 80, A HUNDRED YEARS, WE NEED TO SECURE THIS ADDITIONAL APPROVAL FOR OUR CUP.
WHAT WE DO WANT TO MAKE CLEAR OF IS THAT THIS IS AN INTERNAL PROJECT TO OUR EXISTING FOOTPRINT.
WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO EXPAND OUR OPERATIONS OUTSIDE OF THAT, WHICH WE ALREADY OWN.
AND WE'VE OWNED THIS PROPERTY FOR THE LAST 10 PLUS YEARS.
SO WE'VE OWNED IT FOR THE LAST DECADE.
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING TO DO THREE THINGS ON THIS PROPERTY.
WE'RE LOOKING TO STORE OVERBURDEN DIRT, THAT, THAT WE WILL PULL OFF THE NORTHWESTERN CORNER UP THERE WHERE WE'VE ALREADY HAVE A MINE PLANNED FOR.
AND WE'LL PUT THAT DIRT AND STORE THAT DIRT IN OVERBURDEN PILES AND TO CREATE VEGETATED BURN BUFFERS TO INSULATE US FROM THE CITIZENS OF MAINLY HENRICO.
BUT THEY'RE ALSO A FEW CITIZENS IN GLAND COUNTY AS WELL.
WE THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT, AND STAFF NOTED THAT TONIGHT WE ALSO NEED THAT AREA FOR OUR STONE PROCESSING FACILITIES.
WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE SOME OF OUR PLAN OPERATIONS INTO THAT AREA.
CONTIGUOUS WITH WHAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2012, THE ONE THING THAT WE HEARD FROM ALMOST EVERYBODY PERTAINING TO THIS PROJECT IS, IS AS LONG AS YOU CAN KEEP THE MAJORITY OF TRUCK TRAFFIC OFF OF ASHLAND ROAD, THAT WOULD BE A BIG SOLUTION.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT HELP IS COMING.
THERE'S BEEN INFRASTRUCTURE APPROVED, UH, TO IMPROVE ASHLAND ROAD.
UH, BUT WE ALSO THINK THAT OUR ABILITY TO KEEP ALL OF THIS DIRT INTERNAL TO OUR SITE WILL KEEP ADDITIONAL TRUCK TRAFFIC OFF OF ASHLAND ROAD LONG TERM.
LASTLY, WE BELIEVE WITH THE VEGETATED BURN BUFFERS AND THE APPROPRIATE SETBACKS THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THAT NECESSARY BUFFER THAT WE THINK IS CRITICAL TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF, OF HENRICO AND TO ALSO INSULATE OUR OPERATIONS.
THERE'S BEEN A FEW MISCONCEPTIONS AS TO WHAT THE PROJECT IS TONIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WE WANTED TO MAKE CLEAR THAT NEITHER ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY OR THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET PERMITTED, ARE WE PROPOSING ANY MINERAL EXTRACTION OR MINING OPERATIONS OF AGGREGATES NOT ON EITHER PROPERTY.
ARE WE PROPOSING CORING THAT SITE? SO WE WANNA MAKE THAT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR.
WE ALSO ARE NOT, UM, UH, DOING ANY BLASTING ON EITHER THE NORTHERN OR THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S LAID OUT IN THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH.
SO WE WANNA MAKE THE CITIZENS AWARE OF THAT, THE PUBLIC AWARE OF THAT.
AND THERE HAS ALSO BEEN A MISCONCEPTION AROUND BLASTING.
WE DO NOT BLAST AT NIGHT IN 60 YEARS.
WE HAVE NEVER BLASTED AT NIGHT.
WE ONLY HAVE BLASTED DURING OUR GENERAL PUBLIC HOURS OF OPERATION.
WE HAVE NO PLANS TO PROPOSE A CHANGE TO THAT.
JUST LIKE OUR HOURS OF OPERATION.
WE WANNA MAINTAIN THE CURRENT HOURS OF OPERATION THAT WE'VE HAD FOR 60 YEARS AND WE DO APPRECIATE STAFF ADDING SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXT TO THE OVERBURDENED CLEARING AND ALSO, OR THE, UH, THE, UM, FOLIAGE CLEARING AND ALSO THE OVERBURDENED PLACEMENT BECAUSE WE DID WANT TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE AS IT PERTAINED TO THOSE USES.
UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE NOW.
I CAN DEFER MY TIME UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT IS OVER.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE DAYS? THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
YEAH, I, I JUST, AND, AND I, I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD AND I'VE, UH, TRIED TO, UM, IN SOME RESPECTS RELAY INFORMATION AS I'VE GOTTEN IT.
UH, I'VE, I'VE GONE OVER TO AX COURT THREE TIMES NOW, AND I WANT MY FRIENDS FROM HENRICO TO KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH PROGRAM WORKS.
UH, AND I ENJOYED MY CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, MR. OWEN WHO USED TO LIVE IN GOLIN AND NOW LIVES IN HENRICO AND MS. DESOTO.
UM, AND THEY EXPRESSED A NUMBER OF CONCERNS.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU ARE CONTINUING TO MEET WITH HENRICO CITIZENS.
IT ARE, ARE WHAT, WHAT KIND OF DIALOGUE ARE YOU HAVING THERE? WELL, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WE HAVE ALL, THAT'S THE KIND I LIKE TO ASK.
IT WAS, IT'S, IS A GREAT QUESTION, MS. SWAP.
UM, WE ARE OFFERING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE OPEN DIALOGUE WITH THE CITIZENS OF WESTERN ESTATES AND ALSO ANY CITIZENS FROM WESTRIDGE STATES OR GLAND COUNTY THAT WANT TO ENGAGE IN THOSE.
WE REACHED OUT BEFORE THIS VOTE, UH, TWO TO THREE WEEKS BACK AND HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A GROUP OF CITIZENS THAT WE MET WITH AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
AND WE MADE SURE THAT WE OFFERED TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO CONTINUE THESE CONVERSATIONS MOVING FORWARD, UM, BEFORE WE DO ANY CLEARING ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BEGIN OUR CONSTRUCTION, UM, PROJECT.
WE OFFER THAT INTO THE FUTURE.
WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATIONS
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SINCE THEN, BUT WE WILL BE, LUCK WILL BE REACHING OUT TO THEM TO TAKE A PROACTIVE APPROACH TO THAT PROCESS, UM, IN THE COMING MONTHS.I, I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING PART IN FAMILY COUNSELING HERE.
'CAUSE UH, I, I, I'M FORMALLY FROM HENRICO AND, AND, AND I'VE GOT FRIENDS AND, AND, UH, COLLEAGUES THERE.
AND I, I DO VIEW THIS AS REGIONAL COLLABORATION.
BUT YEAH, WE'VE GOT SOME STICKING POINTS HERE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO WORK THROUGH.
AND I'M MORE, I'M AS INTERESTED IN THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION BEING OPEN.
AND I WANTED JUST TO HEAR YOU SAY, WHICH I THOUGHT YOU WOULD, THAT THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION ARE THERE.
THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME WRINKLES AND BUMPS RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO DISCUSS THOSE AND SEE IF WE CAN'T GET TO, UM, YOU KNOW, A COMPROMISE OF SOME SORT OR ANOTHER.
MR. WINFREY, MR. THOMAS, UM, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 58 YEARS.
WHEN WERE THOSE HOMES? UM, I GUESS THE SUBDIVISION IS BUILT SO CLOSE TO IT.
WHEN WERE THEY BUILT? WELL, YOU RECALL STAFF REFERENCED THAT THEY WERE PLATTED BACK IN 2012.
THERE WERE NO HOUSES THERE PHYSICALLY WHEN WE RECEIVED OUR APPROVAL FOR THE 2012 CASE, THOUGH, UM, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE THEY WERE PLATTED.
THERE WERE NO HOUSES THERE AT THE TIME.
SO YOU ALL UP AND OPERATING AND SO FORTH WHEN THE HOUSES WERE BUILT.
LET ME, LET ME ADD A POINT OF CLARIFICATION.
WESTRIDGE ESTATES, WHICH IS TO THE SOUTH PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH, WAS WAS THERE IN THE 1970S.
WESTIN ESTATES TO THE NORTH, THERE WERE PROPERTIES WERE PLATTED, BUT AT THE TIME, YOU CAN SEE IN THE AERIAL OF THE 2012 CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PICTURE THAT THERE WAS NO HOUSES THERE AT THE TIME THAT THE BOARD APPROVED IT.
I WANT TO ADD A BIT OF CLARITY TO THAT.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. WINFREY? THANK OKAY.
SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD.
WE'LL OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, JUST BEFORE I, UM, FORMALLY OPEN IT, I JUST WANT TO, UH, ASK THAT, UM, ANY GOOCHLAND RESIDENCE COME FORWARD FIRST AND, UH, SPEAK IF, UH, IF GLAND RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKEN IN PUBLIC COMMENTS, WE WILL ASK, UH, OTHER RESIDENTS, OTHER COUNTIES TO COME FORWARD IF THEY HAVE COMMENTS.
AND, UH, JUST LIKE EVERYONE, PLEASE GIVE YOUR ADDRESS.
PLEASE STATE YOUR COUNTY, UH, WHERE YOU LIVE IF, UH, IN GIVING THAT ADDRESS.
I'M WITH THE GLAND COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
OUR OFFICE IS LOCATED AT 29 31 RIVER ROAD WEST, AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LUCK COMPANIES, LUCK COMPANIES HAS BEEN A GREAT LOCAL PARTNER FOR THE GLAND COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
AND FOR MANY, MANY BUSINESSES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY SUPPORT PROGRAMS LIKE WOMEN IN BUSINESS SHOP, SMALL SHOP LOCAL YOUNG PROFESSIONALS, GLIN GLIN CHAMBER LEADERSHIP SCHOLARSHIPS FOR YOUNG HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, THE CHAMBER EXPO TO HIGHLIGHT LOCAL BUSINESSES, GLIN GATHERING A SPEAKER SERIES AND MANY, MANY MORE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE GUCH CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, I WOULD ASK THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS VOTE TO SUPPORT LUXE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS THEY HAVE BEEN EXCEPTIONAL AND AMAZING CORPORATE PARTNERS.
AND THEIR TRACK RECORD WILL PROVE IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
I'M CHUCK METZKER, CO-FOUNDER OF GREENSVILLE GROWERS.
I LIVE IN HENRICO COUNTY, BUT GLAND, UM, GR UH, GLAND, UH, OUR BUSINESS IS LOCATED ON HOCKETT ROAD IN GLAND COUNTY, WHICH BY THE WAY IS A WONDERFUL LOCATION.
SO, VERY QUICKLY, HOW IS LUX STONE INVOLVED WITH GREENSVILLE GROWERS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM? WE ARE A GREENHOUSE.
WE USE MOTHER NATURE'S SUNLIGHT TO GROW OUR PLANTS.
UH, 95% OF WHAT WE ALL EAT IS GROWN IN CALIFORNIA AND ARIZONA.
UM, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF HOW WE GROW OUR PLANTS.
AND I'LL GET TO LUX STONE IN JUST A SECOND, BUT I WANT YOU TO HEAR THIS.
UH, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF HOW WE GROW OUR PLANTS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT AUTOMATED.
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FROM SEED TO ALL YOUR REFRIGERATORS, OUR PRODUCT NEVER TOUCHES HUMAN HANDS.SECONDLY, OUR SHELF LIFE IS 18 TO 21 DAYS.
SO AT THE END OF THAT, AFTER WE HARVEST ALL OUR PLANTS, WHICH WE GROW IN PEA MOSS, AND WE ONLY USE WATER, MINERAL, AND NUTRIENTS, WHAT IS LEFT OVER IS PEAT MOSS WITH A ROOT SYSTEM AND A LITTLE TINY BIT OF A PLANT.
WE PRODUCE A MILLION POUNDS OF THAT ANNUALLY.
SO HOW IS LUX STONE INVOLVED? THEY HELPED US GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE CAN PUT THAT WE COMPOST NOT IN LANDFILLS.
WE'VE NOT PUT ONE INCH OF THAT COMPOST IN LANDFILLS.
THEY HAVE AGREED TO HELP US DO THAT.
THEY'RE DOING THAT AS WE SPEAK TODAY.
AND AS I KNOW LUX STONE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS IN MY PRIOR LIFE, I WOULD JUST SAY TO YOU, LUX STONE IS A VERY HIGH QUALITY COMPANY.
THEY'RE VERY, VERY SAFETY ORIENTED.
THEY'RE VERY COMMUNITY CONSCIOUS.
UH, MR. CHAIRMAN BEN SLOAN, 2 0 5 2 MAINTENANCE ROAD MAINTENANCE VIRGINIA.
UH, I RISE STRICTLY AS A CITIZEN IN THIS CASE 'CAUSE WE HAVE NOT GONE THROUGH THIS, UH, WITH THE EDA.
BUT I WILL SAY IF THERE IS A COMPANY IN GLAND COUNTY THAT HAS THE RESPECT OF I BELIEVE EVERY CITIZEN AND DOES A BURDEN OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND GOOD NATURED OPERATIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT IS THE LUCK COMPANIES.
AND I WILL ASK THAT YOU PLEASE APPROVE THIS CUP AND SUPPORT THE CONTINUED OPERATION OF THIS GREAT COMPANY WITH GLAND COUNTY.
MR. CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS, FELLOW ATTENDEES, BEN JOHNSON, 2151 JOHNSON ROAD, ROCKVILLE.
I'M AN 84-YEAR-OLD RESIDENT OF GOODSON RIGHT THERE ALL MY LIFE, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE WITH, UH, LIVING AROUND THE QUA, HAVING BEEN FIRST, UH, AN EMPLOYEE AT, UH, WHAT IS NOW VULCAN MATERIALS.
THEN IN THOSE DAYS IT WAS A LOCK STONE, BUT A DIFFERENT LUCK, DIFFERENT PART OF THE FAMILY.
ANYWAY, UH, I CAN TELL YOU THE DIFFERENCE THAT A, THAT A BURN MAKES.
WE HAVE A BER THAT WAS PUT IN FRONT OF MY YARD, WHICH IS ROUGHLY 600 FEET FROM THE BULK PIT.
IT HAS MADE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN BOTH NOISE AND LIGHTING.
UM, AND IT CAN BE AN ATTRACTIVE THING.
WE'VE ACTUALLY SCULPTED IT SO THAT IT LOOKS VERY NATURAL.
I'VE HAD FRIENDS COME TO VISIT THAT HAVEN'T SEEN ME IN 15 YEARS.
IT, GOSH, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT HILL BEING THERE.
SO I THINK, UH, THAT IS ONE, ONE PLUS FOR WHAT LOCKE.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS A COMPANY THAT WILL DO WHAT THEY SAY.
MY EXPERIENCE IN HAVING BEEN IN A NEIGHBOR WITH LOCKE FOR ROUGHLY 60 YEARS, I FOUND THAT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE TO ANY NEEDS OR CONCERNS THAT I'VE EXPRESSED WITH THEM.
AND I'VE JUST FOUND THEM A VERY, VERY GOOD COMPANY TO WORK WITH.
UH, FROM CHARLIE LUCK II, ALL, ALL THE WAY DOWN.
ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE? OH, ANYONE FROM HENRIK? I DOUBT.
AND IF WE HAVE A QUEUE, THERE ARE OPEN SEATS IN THE FRONT.
IF YOU JUST WANNA SIT THERE TO BE CLOSER TO THE MIC.
SO WHAT DO WE, WHICH BUTTON DO WE HIT? IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY ON.
UM, SO MY NAME'S, UH, MICHELLE.
I LIVE AT 1 2 8 1 3 AX HANDLE COURT, GLEN ALLEN, VIRGINIA 2 3 0 5 9.
AND MY BACKYARD IS THE HENRICO GLAND LINE.
LITERALLY THAT FENCE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ISN'T REALLY A FENCE.
IT'S SOME BARBED WIRE STUCK ON SOME POLES, BUT THERE IS QUASI FENCE BEHIND US.
UM, 350 FEET OF TREES AS A BUFFER FOREVER.
THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TOLD, UM, WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR LAND AND WE'RE BUILDING OUR DREAM HOUSE ON IT.
NOW IT'S BEING REDUCED TO 50 FEET MAYBE.
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UM, IT'S BEEN THREATENED TO BE AS LITTLE AS 15 FEET IF THIS CUP DOESN'T GET PASSED OR DOESN'T GET APPROVED.UM, AND YOU HEARD THAT MOMENTS AGO WHEN THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IT HAD BEEN 350 FEET AND NOW IT'S 50.
UM, MY HUSBAND, UH, JR PUTIN AND I BOUGHT THE LAND IN 2015 AND FOUND OUT A COUPLE WEEKS LATER THAT WE WERE PREGNANT WITH OUR SECOND BABY.
UH, WE WERE BUILDING OUR DREAM HOUSE ON THE LAND.
WHAT WE ALWAYS EXPECTED WOULD BE OUR VERY FIRST AND OUR ONLY HOME FOR OUR YOUNG FAMILY.
WE'RE TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE THE FIRST LAW SCHOOL GRADUATES IN OUR FAMILIES AND OUR RESPECTIVE FAMILIES.
NO SILVER SPOONS IN OUR HISTORY.
JUST TWO HARD WORKERS WHO WANTED THEIR KIDS TO GROW UP WITH A BEAUTIFUL BACKDROP IN AN AREA WITH GREAT PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
OUR KIDS GO TO CLEY, BY THE WAY.
UM, SO THEY'LL BE IMPACTED DAILY BY BOTH THIS BRUTAL PROJECT AND THE PROJECT ROCKY, ABOUT WHICH WE HEARD, UM, A FEW FOLKS SPEAK WITH SO MUCH PASSION, UM, ABOUT EARLIER TODAY.
UM, THIS IS GONNA NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR KIDS AND LIKE A COUPLE THOUSAND KIDS OVER THE NEXT COUPLE DECADES, WAY, WAY MORE THAN IT DISTRESSES US ADULTS.
AND YOU FOLKS NEED TO HEAR THAT.
AS YOU KNOW, LUX STONE GAVE A PRESENTATION IN MAY TO A BUNCH OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND OFFERED, CALL US.
WE'LL TALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE WE WANNA DO THINGS RIGHT AND BE EXCELLENT CORPORATE CITIZENS AND NEIGHBORS.
THEY BROUGHT MOCK-UPS CHARTS, OVERSIZED PLANS SHOWING A GRADUAL BERM OF HEIGHT SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN THE ONE THAT'S BEFORE YOU.
NOW, THEIR MAY ROAD SHOW WAS MEANT TO COMFORT ALL OF US AND ALLAY OUR FEARS THAT WE'D GO FROM HAVING A FOREST BEHIND US TO AN ABJECT EYESORE.
IT NOW FEELS LIKE A PRETTY PREMEDITATED CON JOBB.
WE STILL HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING REMOTELY USEFUL, CLOSE REMOTELY CLOSE TO A USEFUL EXPLANATION AS TO WHY LUXTON BELATEDLY PIVOTED FROM THE PROPOSED PLAN.
THEY PUBLICLY SHOPPED AROUND IN MAY TO THIS BANANAS LAST SECOND, 150 FOOT HOT BERM THAT'S GONNA GO DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR HOMES.
150 FOOT BERM IS EQUIVALENT TO A 15 STORY BUILDING.
AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU GUYS WOULD ALLOW IN YOUR COUNTY.
THAT'S NUTS AND IS GONNA LOOK LIKE TRASH 50 FEET BEHIND A HOUSE.
NOT ONLY WILL PRECIOUS GREEN SPACE AND FOREST HABITAT BE LOST, BUT OUR HOME INVESTMENTS WILL DECLINE RIGHT WITH IT.
THAT'S NOT PARTNERSHIP WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.
THAT'S NOT BEING GOOD CORPORATE CITIZENS.
THAT'S USING YOUR TAX DOLLAR HEFT AND OUTSIZED INFLUENCE IN THE COUNTY TO BULLY YOUR WAY TO GETTING APPROVAL FOR WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH NO MATERIAL PUSHBACK OR ACCOUNTABILITY.
I DON'T REALISTICALLY THINK THAT ME BEING EMOTIONAL HERE TONIGHT IS GONNA MAKE A TANGIBLE DIFFERENCE IN YOUR ULTIMATE DECISION.
I JUST WANTED YOU ALL TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO LAY EYES ON THE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS PROPOSAL.
AND AT LEAST MY KIDS WILL ALWAYS KNOW THAT THEIR MOM CAME HERE TO STICK UP FOR THEM AND THE REST OF THE KIDS BEING HOSED BY THIS PROPOSAL.
I'M THE CHAIR OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN HENRICO COUNTY.
I'M HERE WITH THREE OF MY OTHER COLLEAGUES.
SO FOUR OUT OF THE FIVE OF OUR MEMBERS ARE HERE SITTING THROUGH A THREE HOUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEMBER A MEETING IN GLAND COUNTY.
UM, JUST BECAUSE THIS IS IMPORTANT TO RESIDENTS IN RIK COUNTY.
SO I'M GONNA YIELD THE REST OF MY TIME TO, UH, THE THREE CHILD REP, UH, MISS MISTY WHITEHEAD WHEN SHE COMES UP.
I'M A TUCKAHOE DISTRICT RESIDENT.
I'M ALSO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN TUCKAHOE.
WE SHARE ABOUT SEVEN MILES OF BORDER WITH MR. LYLE.
UM, LIKE MR. LYLE, I'M NEW ON THE BOARD.
WE WANT TO HAVE EXCELLENT DIALOGUE GOING FORWARD.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE 50 FOOT BARRIER BECAUSE I THINK THIS ROOM IS ABOUT 50 FEET AND THAT'S A, I'M SORRY I DON'T INTERRUPT YOU.
UM, WE KIND OF HAD TIME SEATED FLOWS INTO MS. WHITE.
I, OH, I'M SORRY YOU WEREN'T YOUR TIME.
I'M GOING TO SEE MY TIME TO MS. WHITEHEAD.
I WAS GONNA SPEAK FOR 30 SECONDS.
TYPICALLY THE WAY THE RULES ARE, YOU EITHER SPEAK OR CGE YOUR TIME.
YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T SPEAK FOR A PORTION, THREE MINUTES.
DON'T WANT YOU TO INTRODUCE AND THEN YOURSELF AND DO ALL THAT.
MY NAME IS JODY ROES, TUCK HUB BOARD OF SUPERVISOR.
I YIELD MY TIME TO MS. WHITEHEAD.
I'M THE CLERK TO THE HENRICO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, AND I'M YIELDING MY TIME TO SUPERVISOR WHITEHEAD.
MY NAME IS JURY MILLER AND I AM A RESIDENT OF HENRICO COUNTY.
UM, AND MY ADDRESS IS 1 2 8 0 4 AX HANDLE COURT, UH, GLEN ALLEN, VIRGINIA 2 3 0 5 9.
UM, FIRST I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT LINWOOD
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THOMAS, UM, AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE L STONE TEAM DID BE WITH US, MA'AM, SORRY.YEAH, WHEN WE SEE TIME, WE'VE GOT A FLOW.
NO, NO, BUT WE'VE GOT A FLOW INTO THE SPEAKER.
THEN IF YOU, YEAH, SO IF ANYONE ELSE IS SEATING TIME TO MS. WHITE, PLEASE STEP FORWARD AND DO IT.
ARE WE AT 10? APPARENTLY? YES.
UM, GENTLEMEN, AND, AND I WILL START OFF BY SAYING THAT, UM, WHEN I HEAR ALL THESE WONDERFUL THINGS ABOUT LUCK CORPORATION, I'M CERTAINLY GLAD THAT I'M NOT STANDING HERE ASKING YOU GUYS TO PUT LUCK OUT OF BUSINESS OR ANYTHING DETRIMENTAL.
I AM QUITE CONFIDENT THAT NO MATTER WHAT THIS BOARD DECIDES TONIGHT, LUCK WILL CONTINUE TO MARCH ON AS THE GREAT CORPORATE CONTRIBUTOR TO GLAND'S TAX BASE AS IT CONTINUES TO DO, AND OTHER SMALL BUSINESSES AND ENTITIES.
AS I'VE HEARD ABOUT, UM, I'VE, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY ENJOYED SITTING HERE LISTENING FOR THE PAST SEVERAL HOURS AS SEVERAL OF YOUR RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKEN, BECAUSE IT STRUCK ME AS I LISTENED AND I HEARD, UH, FOLKS COMMENT ABOUT BEING WORRIED ABOUT DECISIONS BEING MADE ARBITRARILY WITHOUT, UM, DUE PROCESS.
WHEN I HEAR, UH, COMMENTS BEING MADE AND STRESSING THE IMPORTANCE OF REGIONALISM AND COOPERATION.
WHEN I HEAR FOLKS SAYING, WE DON'T WANT INTRUSION ON OUR PROPERTY BY A HUNT CLUB OR, OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT, REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE ALL TOOK OUR OATHS, UM, WE ALL ARE RESPONSIBLE TO OUR CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE VERY SIMILAR COMMONALITIES AND THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IN THEIR LIVES.
AND I WAS HEARTENED, UM, SUPERVISOR VADERS BY THE COMMENT THAT YOU MADE EARLIER THIS EVENING TO ANOTHER PROPOSAL WHERE YOU SAID, WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING OUT FOR THE BIG GUYS.
AND I, I HOPE THAT THAT RINGS TRUE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I DID A DEEP DIVE ON THIS, AND ACTUALLY MY, OUR STAFF IS PRETTY GREAT.
THEY, THEY'VE MADE THIS WHOLE BIG BINDER FOR ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M A LAWYER, AND THIS IS NOT MY BAILIWICK, BUT, UM, A LOT OF REALLY GOOD INFORMATION IN THIS BINDER IS I TRIED TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU GOTTA DUMB IT DOWN FOR A TRIAL LAWYER, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.
AND SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS THAT, UH, THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY TONIGHT IS ABOUT 70 ACRES OF A LARGER PARCEL, WHICH WAS GREATLY ADDRESSED OR REZONED IN 2011, RESULTING IN THE MIXED USAGE THAT IS THERE TODAY.
AND THE, THE, THE FOCUS IS ON THIS EASTERN BUFFER, UH, WHICH ON THE MAPS WAS THE PURPLE AND THE DARK GREEN SECTION, AND THEN IT FURTHER DELINEATED INTO A NORTHERN PARCEL AND A SOUTHERN PARCEL.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS THIS 350 FOOT BUFFER ON THE EASTERN, UM, SIDE AND MOSTLY THE SOUTHERN PORTION TONIGHT.
AND I LOOKED AT THE PROFFERS THAT WERE DONE IN 2010, AND THEY WERE PRETTY SPECIFIC.
UM, THE PROFFERS NOTED THAT, OR THEY DIDN'T ADDRESS THAT LIGHT GREEN SECTION ON OUR DIAGRAMS BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CUP ACTIVITY PROPOSED THERE.
AND I THINK THAT, UH, MR. THOMAS MENTIONED THAT, UH, THE BUFFER, THE 350 FOOT BUFFER IN THE 2010 PROFFERS WAS VERY SPECIFICALLY NEED SPECIFICALLY NOTED TO BE A MIXTURE OF FENCE UNDISTURBED WOODS AND OR ADDITIONAL EVERGREEN TREE PLANTINGS.
THERE WAS LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT ALLOWED FOR A MODIFICATION TO THAT 350 FOOT, UH, BUFFER TO PERMIT A BERM WITHIN 180 FEET WITH, UH, 35 FOOT UNDISTURBED BUFFER.
BUT THAT WAS FOR A BERM THAT WOULD BE 25 TO 40, UH, FEET IN HEIGHT.
AND, UM, ALL OF THE DIAGRAMS THAT WERE SHOWN TONIGHT, I'M JUST BRINGING HERE THIS 2010 DIAGRAM.
THIS WAS A PART OF THE DISCUSSION IN 2010, AND IT SHOWS THIS 25 TO 40 FOOT HEIGHT BERM.
AND SO, WHILE I APPRECIATE CERTAINLY THE DIAGRAMS THAT WERE BROUGHT BY LUCK TONIGHT, WHAT, WHAT GOOD ARE THEY IF THEY CAN SIMPLY COME BACK YEARS LATER AND PROPOSE SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT? SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE LUCK IS PROPOSING TO NOW MAKE THAT LIGHT GREEN AREA, WHICH WAS NOT, UM, CUT ACTIVITY PREVIOUS TO NOW MAKE THAT CUP ACTIVITY TO REDUCE THE 350 FOOT BUFFER TO 50 FEET AND TO MAKE A 40 MAXIMUM 40 FOOT BERM TO 150 FOOT BERM.
NOW, I DARE VENTURE TO GUESS THAT SINCE THIS IS GLAND COUNTY, UM, SOME OF YOU GUYS PROBABLY SIT ON HOMES WITH LAND THAT, UM, IT HAS A LOT OF LAND PERHAPS 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT NEIGHBORS AND INTRUSIONS THAT CLOSE TO YOU.
AND SO PERHAPS YOU UNDERSTAND THE DISTANCE 50 FEET AND 150 FEET.
BUT I DID A LITTLE BIT OF LOOKING BECAUSE, UH, SOME PEOPLE NEED A FRAME OF REFERENCE.
AND SO FOR 50 FEET, THAT'S HALF OF A BASKETBALL COURT, AND PERHAPS WE'VE GOT MORE BASEBALL FANS IN HERE THAN BASKETBALL FANS.
50 FEET IS THE DISTANCE FROM THE PITCHER'S MOUND TO HOME PLATE.
IT'S ONLY, IT'S HALF THE DISTANCE BETWEEN ANY BASES FIRST BASE TO HOME BASE.
IT'S THE DISTANCE OF A STANDARD SEMI TRAILER.
IT IS THE DISTANCE OF A BOWLING LANE.
AND AS I POINTED OUT PREVIOUSLY, I COUNTED THE TILES WHILE I WAS SITTING IN HERE, ABOUT 22 OF 'EM.
AND SO IT'S JUST SHY OF 50 FEET FROM THIS ROOM TO THIS ROOM.
SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SIT HERE AND IF YOU STAND AT THE BACK OF THAT ROOM, YOU CAN IMAGINE THAT WHERE THOSE FLAGS ARE, THAT'S 50 FEET, RIGHT? 150 FEET FOR THE HEIGHT OF THE BERM.
SO, UH, IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, THAT IS HALF OF THE HEIGHT OF THE STATUE OF LIBERTY.
THAT IS A, AS NOTED, A 12 TO 15 FOOT
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STORY FOOT, UH, STORY BUILDING.IT IS ALMOST AS TALL AS CINDER CINDERELLA'S CASTLE IN DISNEY WORLD.
AND SO, AGAIN, IMAGINE YOU'RE STANDING AT THE BACK OF THAT ROOM AND YOU'RE LOOKING WHERE THOSE FLAGS ARE.
AND INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT CINDERELLA'S CASTLE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 150 FEET OF DIRT.
AND INSTEAD OF BEING IN DISNEY WORLD, YOU'RE IN YOUR LIVING ROOM.
NOW, WE ASKED, WE HAD THE COMMUNITY MEETING, UM, BECAUSE THERE WERE CONCERNS.
AND I'LL NOTE THAT IN ADDITION TO THE AESTHETICS, THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE, AIR QUALITY, UH, THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN GENERAL, STREAM QUALITY.
ALL OF THOSE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN REASONABLY ASKED BY FOLKS.
I INITIALLY CAME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKING FOR A DEFERRAL FOR MORE TIME.
UM, AND THE REASON THAT I ASKED FOR THAT WAS BECAUSE AT THAT POINT THERE HAD BEEN THE ONE COMMUNITY MEETING, ONE COMMUNITY MEETING FOR SOMETHING VERY SIGNIFICANT.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HAVE HAD MORE MEETINGS, UH, REGARDING SPEED BUMPS IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAN WERE HAD IN THIS MEETING.
AND AS NOTED BEFORE, THERE WERE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WERE SAID BY LUCK IN THAT MEETING AS FAR AS WHAT COULD HAPPEN.
THERE WAS EVEN AN OFFER TO SAY, HEY, WHY DON'T WE, UH, DRIVE UP TO OTHER AREAS WHERE WE HAVE THESE, UH, THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES.
MY UNDERSTANDING IN FOLLOWING UP AND TALKING WITH FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS IS THAT, THAT FOLLOW UP REALLY JUST KIND OF CONSISTED OF EXCHANGING EMAILS, NO REAL MODIFICATIONS MADE.
AND IN FACT, THEY LANDED ON INSTEAD OF 35 FEET, WHICH IS WHAT LUCK BELIEVES, THAT THEY ARE, UH, ONLY REQUIRED TO DO IT'S, WELL, IT'S 50 FEET AND IT'S STILL GONNA BE THE 150 FEET.
I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THERE WAS A SPECIFIC REQUEST TO SAY A HUNDRED FEET BUFFER.
AND THE RESPONSE TO THAT FROM LUCK WAS WE CANNOT MAKE ANY PROMISES TO THAT.
SO, UM, I BEG TO DIFFER WITH THE ASSERTION THAT THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS GOING ON TO TRY TO COME TO A MEETING OF THE MINDS AS TO WHAT IS REASONABLE.
THE, UH, STAFF REPORT NOTES THAT AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, THERE WAS A MEETING BETWEEN PLANNING AND LUX STONE.
AND AFTER THAT WE SAW THE VERY MINIMAL CHANGES THEY WERE REFERENCED HERE.
SO EVEN AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSION THERE, THERE WAS A CHANGE TO ADD SIGNAGE, STILL THE 50 FOOT BERM, UH, TO REINFORCE THE, THE DARK CEILING LIGHTING.
AND THEN TO CHANGE THE HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM TO 7:00 AM TO SEVEN TO 5:00 PM SO A TWO HOUR DIFFERENCE.
AGAIN, KEEPING IN MIND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 7:00 AM ON SATURDAY MORNING, 50 FEET BEHIND PEOPLE'S HOUSES WHERE CHILDREN ARE PROBABLY SLEEPING.
AGAIN, I ASK, IS THAT A REASONABLE MODIFICATION? UM, AND AS A LAWYER, I HAVE TO RAISE THE ISSUE AS TO WHETHER ENOUGH THOUGHT HAS BEEN PUT INTO, YOU HAVE AN EXISTING PROFFER THAT IS VERY CLEAR ABOUT THE THREE HUNDRED FIFTY, ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY FEET.
THE QUESTION IS, IS IT EVEN APPROPRIATE FOR A CUP TO MODIFY A PROFFER IN THAT WAY, IS A CUP DESIGNED TO ACTUALLY TROUNCE OVER THE, THE STATED PARAMETERS OF A PROFFER IN THAT WAY? IT WAS STATED BY, UM, LUCK AT A PREVIOUS HEARING THAT THIS IS A DECADES LONG PROCESS.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IF THAT IS THE CASE, PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THERE WAS SUCH A RUSH.
WHY THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS ONLY PRESENTED 48 HOURS PRIOR TO THAT HEARING.
WHILE THIS, I THINK THIS MEETING WAS NOTICED, I BELIEVE MAYBE EVEN TODAY, UM, IT JUST HAS THE APPEARANCE THAT THIS IS NOT ON THE UP AND UP.
AND I WOULD REITERATE A COMMENT MADE BY ANOTHER, A RESIDENT OF GLAND, WHICH WAS CONCERNED ABOUT TRANSPARENCY ALREADY.
MR. BADERS, THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH YOU, WITH ME.
UH, PREVIOUSLY, UM, YOU, WHEN I ASKED, WHEN I STATED OUR REQUEST THAT THIS MATTER BE DEFERRED FOR FUTURE DISCUSSION, YOUR RESPONSE WAS, WHY? BECAUSE HENRICO WANTS IT.
AND I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU THAT NO, MY COLLEAGUES AND I ARE NOT HERE SUGGESTING THAT GLAND SHOULD DO ANYTHING THAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF ITS RESIDENTS, SIMPLY BECAUSE HENRICO THINK THINKS THAT IT'S WHAT'S BEST.
I AM SIMPLY SUGGESTING AND ASKING THAT YOU NOT SAY NO TO OUR REQUEST SIMPLY BECAUSE HENRICO REQUESTS IT.
THIS IS WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF RESIDENTS OF BOTH COUNTIES.
GOOD EVENING, MR. ADMINISTRATOR AND MR. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I LIVE AT 38 0 5 HAVERLY DRIVE, GLEN ALLEN, VIRGINIA REPRESENT THE BROOKLYN DISTRICT IN ROCKWOOD COUNTY.
I HAD PLANNED TO OFFER MY TIME TO MS. WHITEHEAD, UH, AS, AS CLEARLY I'M HERE 'CAUSE I CONCUR WITH HER, UH, AND SUPPORT HER EFFORTS IN THIS REGARD.
BUT SHE RECEIVED THE FULL ALLOWANCE OF TIME.
SO IT'LL ALLOW ME TO SHARE A MOMENT THAT I WAS STRUCK BY WHILE I WAS SITTING HERE TONIGHT AS OUR CHAIR DESCRIBED.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT OFTEN THAT WE GET TO, UH, VOLUNTARILY COME TO ANOTHER BOARD MEETING
BUT IT'S, THIS IS WHAT STRUCK ME TONIGHT.
AN APPLICANT CAME HERE BEFORE YOU ALL AND GAVE A REALLY COMPELLING STORY ABOUT HIS BUSINESS, AND HE DESCRIBED A LARGE BUILDING THAT HE WANTED TO BUILD.
AND HIS, HIS DIFFICULTY IN FINDING THIS SPACE TO DO IT, HE DESCRIBED HIS PLANNED QUIET USE NINE TO FIVE
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HOURS STORING HIS EQUIPMENT.AND I SAW THIS JURISDICTION, THIS, THIS BOARD NEGOTIATE A HUNDRED FOOT WESTERN SETBACK DOWN TO 90 FEET FOR, FOR THAT APPLICANT, UH, TO PROTECT A BASEBALL FIELD, A BASEBALL FIELD, AND THEN 90 FOOT SETBACK TO THE WEST.
THEN I HEARD A MEMBER OF THIS BOARD DESCRIBE WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD SAY WAS AN INCREDIBLY ADMIRABLE LEVEL OF CONSTITUENT SERVICE BY KNOCKING RESIDENT DOORS TO HEAR FROM THE CONSTITUENTS.
THAT'S SUPERB EFFORT AND I APPLAUD IT.
I WOULD DARE SAY THAT IF THESE BORDERING HOMES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE WERE IN GLAND AND THOSE DOORS WERE KNOCKED, I DO NOT THINK THE SAME RESPONSE THAT YOU GOT, UH, FOR THAT CASE WOULD'VE BEEN GOTTEN FOR THIS ONE.
UH, I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO KNOCK THOSE DOORS 'CAUSE WE'RE HERE.
UH, KEEP IN MIND THAT IN THIS CASE, 350 FEET IS REQUIRED TO THE GLAND NORTH.
200 FEET IS REQUIRED TO THE GLAND SOUTH.
NEITHER OF THEM ARE RESIDENTIAL YET.
ONLY 50 FOOT SETBACK IS REQUIRED TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE EAST.
IF YOU REQUIRE 200 FEET TO THE SOUTH AND 350 TO THE NORTH FOR GLAND BORDERS, NEITHER OF WHICH ARE RESIDENTIAL, I WOULD HATE TO ASK AND HOPE THAT YOU WOULD, UH, YOU MAY LIKELY PRESS PAUSE ON APPROVING JUST A 50 FOOT SETBACK IF IT WAS GLAND HOMES THAT WERE IN THAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND ALSO ASK AND HOPE THAT RE REGIONAL INTEGRITY SETS THE BAR FOR THE SAME STANDARDS OF THE WAY YOU, WHICH WOULD APPLY, UH, A GULA NEIGHBORHOOD TO A, TO A NEIGHBORING JURISDICTION NEIGHBORHOOD, REGARDLESS FOR THESE RESIDENTS OF WHICH COUNTY THAT THEY LIVE IN.
HI, RHONDA DESOTO, HENRICO COUNTY 1 2 8 1 2 ACTS, HANDLE COURT.
AND I'M HERE TONIGHT AGAIN TO REQUEST FOR THE DEFERRAL OF APPROVAL SO THE DISCUSSIONS CAN CONTINUE.
I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE ATTENTION THAT THIS REQUEST HAS RECEIVED FOR OUR LOCATIONS.
SPECIFICALLY, I DO NOT THINK WITHOUT THE SUPPORT OF OUR HENRICO REPRESENTATIVES AS WELL AS THE NEWS OUTLETS, UM, THAT WE WOULD EVEN BE GETTING THE TIME AND ATTENTION TO WHAT IS IMPACTING OUR HOMES AND OUR COMMUNITIES.
UM, WHEN I HEARD ABOUT KNOCKING ON THE DOOR, THANK YOU MR. LYLE, UM, FOR REALLY COMING OUT AND SEEING FIRSTHAND WHAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING AND WHERE OUR LOCATION IS, AND WHY WE ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING THIS MINIMAL BUFFER BETWEEN OUR HOMES AND WHAT LUCK IS PROPOSING.
UH, YOU LISTENED TO ME SPECIFICALLY, UH, LOOKED AT OUR HOME.
YOU SAW MY KIDS COME OFF THE BUS, YOU SAW ALL THE KIDS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA PROTECT AND WHAT WE WANNA PROVIDE FOR OUR FAMILY.
AND WHAT YOU ARE REQUESTING TO APPROVE TONIGHT IS NOT DISCUSSIONS.
IT'S NOT WHAT MAY COME OUT OF IT.
IT IT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE APPROVING WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING IN WRITING.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM OTHER GOODLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS, UH, AS WELL AS OTHER MEMBERS, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS THAT THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH.
WE HAVE ISSUES, WE HAVE CONCERNS.
AND BY ALL MEANS, WE WANNA CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSIONS, KEEP THOSE OPEN.
SO BY DEFERRING YOUR APPROVAL TONIGHT, YOU'RE ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN AND GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE CAN GET SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT IS COMFORTABLE FOR BOTH SIDES.
WE'RE NOT SAYING IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN THAT LUCK CAN'T DO THEIR BUSINESS, BUT WE WEREN'T THERE IN 2012.
YOU ALL HEARD THAT? YES, MAYBE HH HUNT HAD THE PLANS IN PLACE, BUT US AS HOMEOWNERS AND OUR FAMILIES AND OUR BABIES WEREN'T EVEN BORN YET THERE.
SO NOW WE ARE HERE AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT CONSIDERATION AND YOU HAVE EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF YOU TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
HELLO AGAIN, JURY MILLER 1 2 8 0 4 AX HANDLE COURT.
CAN YOU SPEAK YOUR MICROPHONE PLEASE? YES.
UM, FIRST I DID WANT TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR NAME, SORRY, JURY MILLER 1 2 8 0 4 AX HANDLE COURT.
UM, FIRST I DID WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE AS I STATED BEFORE THAT LYNNWOOD THOMAS, I DID REACH OUT TO HIM AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND HE AND HIS TEAM DID SIT DOWN WITH, UM, ABOUT FOUR NEIGHBORS AND MYSELF TO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
SO I JUST, I DIDN'T WANNA GIVE CREDIT WHERE CREDIT IS TO.
UM, BUT I STAND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW MY WORLD'S WORDS WILL VENT, WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON TONIGHT'S OUTCOME AS WE ARE WELL AWARE HOW THE BOARD WILL END UP VOTING.
I AM HERE BECAUSE I WANT AND ON PUBLIC RECORD TO SHOW THAT ALL THE DISCUSSIONS AND DECISIONS RELATED TO LOCK STONE'S EXPANSION HAVE ULTIMATELY COME DOWN TO ONE THING, WHICH IS COUNTY LINES.
AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING A FEW WEEKS AGO, FOUR HENRICO RESIDENTS SHARED SERIOUS CONCERNS
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REGARDING AIR QUALITY, WILDLIFE DISPLACEMENT, NOISE CONTROL, EXPOSURE, A PARTICULAR MATTER TO OUR CHILDREN AND OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR FAMILIES.FROM THE QUARRY EXPANSION, THOSE CONCERNS DID NOT, WEREN'T EVEN A HEAD NOD FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IN FACT, THE LAST HENRICO SPEAKER HAD BARELY SAT BACK DOWN BEFORE THE FIRST COMMISSIONER MADE THE MOTION TO APPROVE LUX STONE'S APPLICATION, WHICH WAS FOLLOWED BY A RESOUNDING CHORUS OF EYES FROM THE OTHERS.
I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED SOUTHERN EASTERN BUFFERS.
AS ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES SPOKE TO EARLIER, UM, ONE OF THOSE BUFFERS WILL PROTECT GLAND AND ONE WILL PROTECT HENRICO.
AS YOU SAW, THE SOUTHERN UNDER STORE BUFFER WILL BE 200 FEET, WHEREAS THE EASTERN UNDER STORE BUFFER WILL BE 50 FEET.
GUESS WHICH BUFFER PROTECTS HENRICO? AND GUESS WHICH ONE PROTECTS S GLAND.
WE DID ASK LUX STONE TO RECONSIDER DISTRIBUTING THESE BUFFERS IN A MORE EQUITABLE FASHION.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE ANSWER WAS NOT POSSIBLE.
APPARENTLY, THE ONE SINGULAR GLIN PROPERTY THAT SITS IN THE SOUTHERN BUFFER WARRANTS FOUR TIMES THE BUFFER AS THE DOZENS OF HENRICO FAMILIES WHO RESIDE BY THE EASTERN BUFFER.
WE WERE ALSO WARNED THAT IF TONIGHT'S APPLICATION FOCUSING ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD'S SOUTHERN PARCEL IS NOT APPROVED, THE BUFFER PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR THE NORTHERN PARCEL OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE REDUCED TO 15 FEET, 15, NOT 50, 15 FEET.
SO IF FLUX STONE NEEDS MORE SPACE, THEY'LL TAKE IT FROM HENRICO.
EITHER WAY, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT HOW ONE GLIN RESIDENT ENJOYING A 200 FOOT BUFFER WHILE DOZENS OF HENRICO RESIDENTS SHARE 15.
HOW THAT DOES NOT TELL YOU THAT COUNTY LINES CAME INTO PLAY.
WE ALL KNOW HOW POLITICS WORKS.
ONE OF YOUR OWN RESIDENTS DESCRIBE MEETINGS LIKE TONIGHT'S AS THEATRICS.
I UNDERSTAND THAT ULTIMATELY GLIN NEEDS TO LOOK OUT FOR GLAND'S BEST INTEREST.
HOWEVER, IF IN THE FUTURE THIS SITUATION IS EVER REVERSED AND IT IS GLAND RESIDENTS PL UPON HENRICO LEADERS TO PROTECT THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE, I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT MY REPRESENTATIVES WILL ACT IN MUCH BETTER FAITH AND GIVE THEM THE RESPECT AND CONSIDERATION THAT HAS BEEN DENIED TO US.
I RESIDE AT 1 2 7 3 2 AX HANDLE COURT.
I'M NOT GONNA BELABOR THE ISSUE AS TO THE BERMS IN THE BEAMS AND THE SETBACKS AND THE WHATEVER.
I WANT YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE LIVE.
THE ROAD THAT LEADS TO AX HANDLE LANE, WHICH LEADS TO AX HANDLE COURT, WHICH LEADS TO THESE PEOPLE'S HOMES IS BARELY TWO, TWO LANES BARELY.
SO YOU WANNA HAVE A PROJECT WHERE ONE OF YOUR THOUGHTS IS, WELL, MAYBE WE WILL USE AX HANDLE LANE TO GAIN ACCESS.
WELL, TO DO THAT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE ON CANE ROAD.
YOU MIGHT WANNA TAKE A DRIVE BECAUSE IF YOU THINK YOUR LITTLE WINDY ROADS OUT HERE OR SMALL, YOU'VE NEVER BEEN ON CANE ROAD, IF THERE'S A BUS STOPPED, YOU ARE NOT GETTING BY.
IF UPS IS STOPPED, YOU ARE NOT GETTING BY.
AND IF THE MAILMAN IS THERE, YOU ARE NOT GETTING BY.
BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET'S USE CANE ROAD AND AX HANDLE LANE FOR YOUR EXPANSION BECAUSE WELL, WE MIGHT NEED IT BECAUSE WE MIGHT NEED TO GET OFF OF ASHLAND ROAD AND EVEN ASHLAND ROAD CAN'T HANDLE THAT.
MY NEXT PROBLEM IS, IS THAT YOU WANNA HAVE TRAFFIC FROM 7:00 AM UNTIL 5:00 PM WHICH IS GREAT EXCEPT FOR AT 7:00 AM ALL THE KIDS IN WESTERN ESTATES ARE SITTING AT A BUS STOP ON AX HANDLE LANE, WHICH YOU'LL BE APPARENTLY RUNNING YOUR BIG TRUCKS THROUGH BECAUSE THAT'S HOW YOU'RE GONNA GAIN ACCESS TO LUX STONE.
THEY HAVE ONE BUS STOP FOR THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS.
THEY HAVE ONE STOP FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL KIDS.
AND I'M SORRY, BUT I DON'T TOUCH DRIVERS ANYMORE, ESPECIALLY SINCE 2020.
AND BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE OF HAVING LIVED OFF OF THESE ROADS FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS, I CAN ASSURE YOU IF THEY WERE YOUR CHILDREN, YOU WOULDN'T WANT THEM THERE EITHER.
AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY SAY NO BLASTING AND NO MINING AND NO EXTRACTION.
BECAUSE IF YOU LIVED WHERE I LIVED AND YOU LIVED WHERE MISSY LIVES AND YOU LIVED WHERE ANY OF THESE FOLKS LIVED, YOU BLAST ALL DAY LONG.
IT ROCKS OUR FOUNDATION, IT ROCKS OUR BASEMENTS, IT ROCKS OUR POOLS.
AND I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW MUCH MORE WE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH WHEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BACK IN 2011 WAS DEEMED RESIDENTIAL.
IT'S NOT LIKE YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
THEN ANY ADDITIONAL CITIZEN COMMENTS?
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OKAY, SEEING NONE, I'LL NOW CLOSE THE FLOOR.WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO RESPOND TO ANYTHING PRESENT? THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS, THE BOARD FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.
THERE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS FROM THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE.
I DO THINK ONE THING THAT WE CAN ALLAY CONCERNS ON VERY QUICKLY IS, IS, AND IT WAS NOTED IN THE GDP AND IN THE PRESENTATION BY STAFF TONIGHT, IS WE'VE ONLY HAVE EMERGENCY ACCESSIBILITY OFF OF CANE ROAD AND AX HANDLE ROAD.
THAT IS ONLY FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES.
I WANNA MAKE IT ABUNDANTLY CLEAR THAT THERE IS NO TRUCK TRAFFIC FROM LUCK.
PUBLIC HOURS ARE OTHERWISE UTILIZING CANE ROAD OR AX HANDLE ROAD.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT, THAT FIRST.
I ALSO HAD A CHANCE TO, TO NOTE WHERE EACH OF THE SPEAKERS WAS IN CORRELATION TO OUR PROJECT TONIGHT.
AND THERE WAS ONLY, IT LOOKS LIKE FOUR CITIZENS WHO SPOKE AND THREE OF THOSE DON'T EVEN SHARE A JURISDICTIONAL, A BOUNDARY LINE, NOT A JURISDICTIONAL LINE, A BOUNDARY LINE WITH LUXE PROPERTY, THREE OF WHICH ARE CLOSEST TO LEHIGH ASPHALT.
AND THAT COULD BE THE REASON THAT THEY'RE RECEIVING SOME OF THE NOISES THAT THEY'RE HEARING.
UM, AGAIN, WE WE REITERATE THAT WE DON'T BLAST AT NIGHT.
WE NEVER HAVE AND, AND WE WON'T.
WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO, TO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR, OUR TRACK RECORD AND AIR AND WATER PERMITTING AND QUALITY IS, HAS BEEN EXCEPTIONAL.
WE HOPE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT AS WE LOOK AT OUR REGULATIONS AS WE MONITOR AIR AND WATER, AS THE STATE MONITORS AIR AND WATER, THAT, UM, AND BASED ON OUR, OUR BACKGROUND AND TRACK RECORD THAT WE, WE WILL MAINTAIN THOSE EXEMPLARY STANDARDS.
UM, THOSE WERE THE FEW THINGS THAT, THAT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON THAT I THINK WAS, WAS MOST IMPORTANT OR HAD BEEN RAISED QUESTIONS THAT HAD BEEN RAISED.
ACTUALLY, THERE'S, THERE'S TWO OTHER THINGS I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS.
UM, THE 2012 AND, AND IT WAS NOTED IN THE REPORT TONIGHT, THE 2012, UM, CUP OVERLAYS THE 2010 CUP ON THE NORTHERN PROPERTY.
THIS IS IN THE APPLICATION, THIS IS IN THE APPROVAL.
WE HAD A CHOICE TO CHOOSE EITHER A 350 FOOT BUFFER OR A 205 FOOT BUFFER WITH A 35 FOOT VEGETATED BERM, WHICH WE CHOSE TO DO BACK IN 2012.
THAT'S IN THE, IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE APPROVED ON THE SOUTHERN PIECE.
WE'VE ALREADY RECEIVED APPROVAL THERE.
ON THE SOUTHERN PIECE, THE 350 FOOT IS A BUFFER.
THE FIRST 50 FEET ARE AN UNDISTURBED BUFFER.
THE REMAINING PORTION OF THAT, WHICH IS 300 FEET, IS A VEGETATED BURN BUFFER.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WE DON'T WANT 150 FOOT IN HEIGHT BERM BUFFER, BUT IT IS A BUFFER SIMILAR TO THE 205 FOOT BUFFER TO THE NORTH.
WE DO HAVE MINIMUM STANDARDS ON THE NORTHERN PIECE THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2012.
WE HAVE COMMITTED TO 50 WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT IN THE FUTURE AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE CITIZENS TO SEE IF WE CAN FIND A BETTER PATH FORWARD.
BUT THERE'S NO HYPE RESTRICTION ON THE NORTHERN PIECE EITHER.
UM, AND I THINK JURY MENTIONED IT, BUT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A MAXIMUM RIGHT NOW ON THAT, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO.
'CAUSE IT'S REALLY A MATH EXERCISE.
WE WERE WILLING TO AGREE TO THAT 150 FOOT, UM, HEIGHT RESTRICTION ON THE NORTHERN PIECE OR COMMIT TO THAT.
SO WE COULD EVENTUALLY PUT THE REMAINING DIRT ON THE SOUTHERN PIECE.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIRMAN.
UM, MR. WIN FOR YOU? YEAH, YOU GO AHEAD.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE BLASTING ON THIS PROPERTY UNDER CONSIDERATION? NO, NO, SIR.
FOR THIS APPROVAL? FOR THIS REQUEST? NO, SIR.
MR. RAMEY, THERE'LL BE NO BLASTING NO BLASTING IN CONNECTION WITH WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED OF US TONIGHT.
SO THE ALTERNATIVE, I THINK YOU MENTIONED, UH, I'M, I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU HAVE APPROVAL TO QUARRY A CERTAIN AREA.
YOU NEED TO REMOVE THAT OVERBURDEN AND PUT IT SOMEWHERE.
SO THE ALTERNATIVE IS TO TRUCK IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT COULD, SO EITHER, EITHER IT IS BUILT IN THESE BERMS OR IT'S GONNA BE TRUCKED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IS THAT CORRECT? SOME OF IT POTENTIALLY WILL HAVE TO GO OFF SITE.
UM, THANK YOU MR. CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, A COUPLE OF CITIZENS, UH, REFERENCE THE, WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE THREE 50 FOOT BUFFER, THE 50 FOOT BUFFER, THE 15 FOOT BUFFER.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE, THE GENESIS OF HOW WE DECIDED ON, ON, ON HOW WE ARE PROTECTING HENRICO CITIZENS? WELL, WHAT WE FIRST DID WAS, WAS AN EXERCISE IN MATH TO DETERMINE WHAT THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY WAS FOR US TO DEVELOP THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY.
AND WE'RE, I'M GONNA REFER TO THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY FIRST.
I CAN ADDRESS THE NORTHERN PROPERTY
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SHOULD YOU HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS.WHAT WE DETERMINED WAS BASED ON THE AMOUNT OF DIRT THAT WE HAVE IN THE EXERCISE OF SETBACKS, WE LOOKED AT THE FACT THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY PROVIDE AN UNDISTURBED BUFFER OF 50 FEET WITH THE IDEA THAT THE REMAINING 300 FEET WOULD BE VEGETATED.
AND WE HAVE A LANDSCAPING PLAN FOR THAT AS WELL, SO THAT IT WOULD STILL BE A BUFFER.
BUT WE ALSO WANTED TO ENSURE THAT WE WERE PROTECTING, OR WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER INSULATING OUR SITE FROM THE OTHER CITIZENS.
WE RECOGNIZE NOBODY WANTS ANYTHING IN THEIR BACKYARD, BUT WE FEEL LIKE THAT THIS WOULD, AS, AS STAFF MENTIONED, WOULD ATTENUATE SOUND AND WOULD ALSO PROTECT THE CITIZENS FROM HEARING ADDITIONAL NOISES, UM, ON TOP OF THAT.
SO THAT'S HOW WE CAME TO IT, TO THE DECISION THAT WE WOULD, WE WOULD PROFFER OR MAKE A CONDITION FOR 50 FEET WITH THE REMAINING BEING A VEGETATED BURN BUFFER.
SO THEY MAY NOT LOOK AT THAT AS BEING A BUFFER, BUT IT WILL BE A BUILT BUFFER AND IT COULD BE TO 150 FEET.
UM, IT WOULD BE VEGETATED IN THE LANDSCAPED ON THE TOP OF THAT BUFFER.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
YES, MR. LAW, UM, UH, THIS IS MY FIRST QUARRY UH, HEARING.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS NORMAL OR, OR STANDARD, BUT DO PLANS CHANGE WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF A CUP? IN OTHER WORDS, SAY A COMMITMENT IS MADE FOR 50 FOOT.
DOES THE CUP ALLOW YOU ALL TO DECIDE LATER THAT YOU WANT TO DO MORE THAN A 50 FOOT THAT YOU COULD EXCEED? WHAT IS THE MINIMAL? SO THE CUP IS DEFINING A MINIMAL, NOT, YOU COULD, YOU COULDN'T GO LOWER THAN 20, UH, 50 COULDN'T GO TO 25.
'CAUSE THE CUP DOESN'T ALLOW THAT.
COULD YOU GO LARGER THAN, THAN, UH, 50? WE, WE WOULD DEFER TO STAFF AND NOT JUST US AS GENERAL EXPERTS, BUT WE BELIEVE BASED ON GEN GENERAL CONFORMITY STANDARDS, THAT WE COULD GO BEYOND 50 FEET.
SHOULD WE BE ABLE TO, BASED ON WHAT WE'VE COMMITTED TO.
NOW, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO WHAT, WHICH PARCEL ARE YOU REFERRING TO TODAY? ALL OF THEM.
YOU KNOW, JUST, I'M NOT, SO THE ANSWER IS, IS WE BELIEVE THAT WE, WE CAN DO THAT WHERE POSSIBLE.
SO WHERE, WHERE I GUESS I'M GOING WITH THIS IS THAT, AND I'M NOT GOING TO APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING SOME KNOWLEDGE.
I, I LIVE WITHIN TWO MILES OF YOUR BOCO BELL PLAN.
I DON'T FEEL THE EARTH MOVE, UH, WHEN, WHEN BLASTING TAKES PLACE.
BUT I'M NOT COMPLETELY IGNORANT OF, OF WHAT LUCK HAS DONE.
I'VE BEEN TO THE BOSCO BELL FACILITY TO VIEW THE BERMS, AND IF I HAD NOT BEEN TOLD THOSE WERE MAN HUMAN CREATED BERMS, I WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN THAT.
SO I'M, I'M SO SENSITIVE TO THE COMMENTS I'VE HEARD TONIGHT BECAUSE, UH, WHEN I LIVED IN HENRICO, THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF LARRY DIXON WHO SAT ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UM, POINTED ME TO THE IDA ACTUALLY WHEN I WAS IN HENRICO BACK IN THE DAY.
AND HIS COMMENT WAS, YOU ALWAYS LOOK OUT FOR THE HOMEOWNER.
THAT IS THE BIGGEST INVESTMENT THAT A PERSON TYPICALLY HAS.
AND SO THAT HAS RESONATED WITH ME FOR, I'M NOT GONNA SAY HOW MANY YEARS, BUT MORE THAN TWO.
UH, AND, AND SO I HAVE AN INTEREST IN THE HOMEOWNER, UH, HAVING THAT SANCTUARY.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO APPRECIATE THAT, UH, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD VISITS, THERE WAS SOME ANGST OR ANGER EXPRESSED THAT WHEN THE HOUSE OR THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD TO THEM, IT WAS SOMEWHAT MISREPRESENTED.
AND I'M GONNA USE THAT WORD MISREPRESENTED AS TO WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE PROPERTY IN GOLAND.
I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD LIE, BUT THAT MISREPRESENTED IS WHERE I'M GONNA STAY.
AND, AND, AND SO THERE WAS SOME ANXIETY AND ANGST THAT SOMEBODY DIDN'T GET THE FULL STORY.
UH, THIS, YOU'RE ALWAYS GONNA LIVE IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, AND, AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN FIX A PROBLEM THAT ISN'T OF MY MAKING.
UM, AND, AND, AND I'M WRESTLING WITH THIS BECAUSE I, I AGREE THE COMMENT THAT THE HOME SANCTUARY IS, IS SOMETHING THAT, UH, REALLY RESONATES WITH ME.
BUT HOW, HOW DO WE GET TO A GOOD RESOLUTION? I THINK THE CHAIRMAN WOULD LIKE ME TO, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS A SIGNAL TO WRAP IT UP THERE.
I, I, I, UH, I'LL JUST TELL YOU NO.
YES YOU WILL, MR. CHAIRMAN, AND I APPRECIATE IT.
'CAUSE I, UH, I, UH, I'M CURIOUS IF THE CUP WERE APPROVED AT 50, YOU COULD DO MORE THAN 50 THROUGH NEGOTIATION IF IT MADE SENSE AND THERE WAS A WILLINGNESS TO, UH, HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
WE COULDN'T MAKE THAT, UH, STATEMENT TONIGHT IN GOOD FAITH.
WHAT WE CAN SAY AND WHAT WE HAVE TOLD THE CITIZENS IS THAT WE WILL RECONVENE TO SEE WHAT IS POSSIBLE.
WE ARE LOOKING INTO WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE, BUT I COULDN'T MAKE THAT STATEMENT
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IN GOOD FAITH TONIGHT, MR. LAW.YEAH, THAT'S ALWAYS, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.
SEEING NONE, UH, IS THERE A MOTION FROM THE BOARD, MR. SMITH? OH, I WAS, BECAUSE OF YOU.
I, I'LL BE HAPPY TO, UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU DASH 2024 DASH 16 SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED.
UH, DISCUSSION MR. STONEHILL? MR. CHRISTIE, DO YOU WANNA SECOND MR. SPINOFF? NOT YET.
UM, IT'S INTERESTING, WE FIND OURSELVES IN THESE POSITIONS, UM, OF DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE LONG BEFORE OUR TIME.
I THINK REVEREND NELSON MAY HAVE BEEN THE ONLY ONE, UM, SERVING WHEN BOTH OF THESE, UH, PROJECTS THAT THE PROJECT THAT WAS PLANTED IN 2012, UM, AGAINST INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT HAS BEEN THERE LONGER THAN I'VE BEEN ALIVE.
UM, AND I I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO, UH, COMMEND MY PEERS IN HENRICO FOR ADVOCATING FOR YOUR CITIZENS.
UM, IT IS NOT A DIFFICULT POSITION WHEN YOU ARE LEFT TO SEE THE FULFILLMENT OF DECISIONS THAT WERE BEEN MADE PRIOR TO YOU.
UM, I DO FEEL LIKE WE HAVE IN GOOD FAITH TRY TO GET TO THE BEST PROJECT THAT PROTECTS EVERYONE THAT WE CAN.
UM, AND SOMETIMES FOLKS AREN'T GOING TO ALIGN IT.
I, IT'S TOUGH WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR FOUNDATION ROCKING YOUR BASEMENT ROCKING WHEN YOU'VE MOVED NEXT TO A ROCK COURT.
AND IT, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE, VIRGINIA IS NOT A DISCLOSURE STATE.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I THINK OUR REALTORS COULD BE HELD A LITTLE BIT MORE ACCOUNTABLE FOR LETTING PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE MOVING UP NEXT TO.
UM, BUT, UM, I DO WANT TO THANK, UM, THE, THE, MY PEERS AND THE SUPERVISORS FROM NARCO FROM COMING OUT TO GLAND AND, AND ADVOCATING FOR, UM, YOUR CITIZENS.
UM, AND I SO APPRECIATE MS. DESOTO, UM, RECOGNIZING THAT I WAS NOT HAVING CAR PROBLEMS, BUT I WAS ACTUALLY TRYING TO SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, AND MR. OWEN ALSO, I WALKED HIS PROPERTY, I WALKED HIS FENCE LINE, AND, AND YES, THE, THE BARBED WIRE FROM LOCK INTO HIS BACK FENCE IS PROBABLY 18 INCHES.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S SMACKED CLOSE UP TO EACH OTHER.
AND, AND THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT, BOY, WHAT IS HAPPENING WASN'T DISCLOSED TO US.
AND IT WAS SO REPRESENTEDED THAT IT WAS ALWAYS BE FORCED, DID IT, AND, AND, UH, BUCOLIC AND PASTORAL.
I, I CAN'T FIX WHAT WAS SAID WHEN SOMEBODY BOUGHT THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, I, I APPRECIATE THE 48 HOUR DISCLOSURE ON SOME OF OUR MATERIALS.
I HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN SEEING US HAVE MORE TIME TO REVIEW THINGS.
SO I HOPE THAT OUR HENRICO FRIENDS DON'T THINK THEY'RE UNIQUELY SINGLED OUT THAT THERE IS 48 HOURS FOR EVERYBODY.
AND, UH, I, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN IMPROVE ON THAT.
UH, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I DID DOOR KNOCKING, BUT I DID HANG OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND I WANTED TO SEE, I WANTED TO HEAR.
AND, UH, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT OPTIMUM.
IT, IT REALLY IS NOT THE PERFECT SITUATION, BUT I HAVE FAITH IN LUCK THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO AS BEST AS CAN BE DONE AND TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
THE NOISE, THE DUST, ALL OF THOSE ARE REGULATED, UH, CONCERNS.
UH, AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M NOT INVITING PEOPLE TO COME TO BOSQUEVILLE, BUT IF THEY WANNA SEE A BERM THAT'S VEGETATED, AND IN MY OPINION, UH, INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM WHAT GOD CREATED, UH, THAT THERE, THERE ARE BERMS OUT THERE, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LESS THAN IDEAL SCENARIO.
SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED? UH, I DON'T KNOW.
HOW DO WE CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION? UH, I, I HAVE TO RELY ON LUCK IN THE COMMUNITY, IN HENRICO AND GOLIN, UH, THAT WE CONTINUE TO TALK.
I, I'VE MADE THE COMMENT EARLIER, I FEEL LIKE I'M A LITTLE BIT IN FAMILY COUNSELING BECAUSE I DO VIEW US AS A A REGION.
I DO VIEW US AS THERE'S, THERE'S ARBITRARY LINES ON A MAP, BUT I MEAN, I'VE LIVED IN HENRICO, I'VE LIVED IN GOLAND AND, AND I, WE EXPORT A LOT OF OUR RESTAURANT MONEY TO GO, UH, HENRICO.
WE, UM, WE, WE, WE ENJOY HAVING THAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO OF US.
SO, UM, IT, IT'S A PROCESS AND, UH, I APPRECIATE, AND I'M EXPECTING, AND I'M GONNA USE THAT WORD EXPECTING THAT LUCK WILL CONTINUE THE DIALOGUE, UH, SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED AND, AND THAT, UH, WE MAKE IT AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE MADE.
AND WILL EVERYBODY GET EVERYTHING THEY WANT? NO LUCK WON'T.
I DON'T THINK THE NEIGHBORS WILL.
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I THINK I WILL.UM, YOU KNOW, ADMITTEDLY THERE ARE LARGE BERMS, BUT YOU KNOW, I, I AM THINKING, YOU KNOW, BERMS ARE GOOD.
I'M, A LOT OF TIMES DEVELOPERS FIGHT THE REQUIREMENT THAT PLANTERS PUT ON THEM TO CREATE BERMS BECAUSE THEY'RE PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LANDSCAPING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SITE PROTECTION AND SO FORTH.
BUT THE, THESE ARE LARGE BERMS, BUT I'VE SEEN EXAMPLES OF BERMS THAT YOU ALL HAVE CREATED, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NICE LOOKING, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF US MOVING THIS QUICKLY.
I MEAN, I, I'M, I'M AWARE OF AT LEAST A YEAR AGO OF THIS ISSUE COMING FORWARD AND MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS AND SO FORTH.
AND WE'VE HAD THREE WEEKS SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO SPEND MORE TIME ON IT AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.
SO, I, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND WE TALK ABOUT STANDING UP FOR OUR CITIZENS, AND I COMMEND AND RIKO FOLKS FOR DOING THAT TOO, BUT WE HAVE TO STAND UP FOR OUR CITIZENS AS WELL.
AND LOCK STONE IS A WONDERFUL CORPORATE CITIZEN OF THIS COMMUNITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST DISCARD THAT.
I MEAN, I, I JUST, AND I THINK WE'VE MADE THAT VERY CLEAR WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE TALKED FROM AIR, FROM COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS, JUST TO REITERATE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BLAST ON THAT.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BLASTING AND SHAKING ANYBODY'S POOLS OR THEIR WINDOWS OR WHATEVER FROM THIS OPERATION, WHICH WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
SO I THINK WE ARE GETTING SOME OF THAT CONFUSED WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A BERM UP.
THAT'S NOT A QUARRY OPERATION, AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE BRINGING THE BIG TRUCKS THROUGH THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND SO FORTH.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU ALL ARE TRYING TO ADDRESS THESE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE A CONCERN TO THE CITIZENS.
SO, AND I LOOK AT THE ALTERNATE, IF YOU DON'T DO THE BERMS, YOU'RE GONNA TRUCK IT AND IT'S GOING TO DAMAGE THE ROADS.
AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LONG TIME, PROBABLY A LONGER PROCESS, MORE, LESS EFFICIENT.
UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE THESE COMMENTS, SO BEAR WITH ME.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS IS NOT A COMPANY THAT JUST CRUSHES ROCK THAT JUST IS DEALING WITH DIRT.
I GEEK OUT ON THE ENGINEERING THAT IS TAKING PLACE AT BOTH FACILITIES IN GLAND COUNTY.
IT IS A MARVEL AND IT IS A QUITE SOMETHING TO SEE.
AND IT IS, UH, SO IN REGARDS TO A BERM THAT IS NOT SIMPLY JUST A PILE, THAT IS A HEAVILY ENGINEERED STRUCTURE THAT I ALSO, I DID STRESS THIS, UH, TO MS. WHITEHEAD.
WE HAVE THREE OTHER BERMS THAT LUCK HAS WITHIN 60 TO 70 MILES OF HENRICO COUNTY IN BURKEVILLE, CULPEPPER IN FREDERICKSBURG.
WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THEIR WORD.
IT CAN BE SEEN IN A NORMAL DILIGENCE PROCESS.
I KNOW IT WAS REFERENCED IN MEETINGS THAT THE COMPANY HAD WITH, UH, HENRICO RESIDENTS AND OFFICIALS.
AND SO YOU DO HAVE TO SEE THE COMPANY FOR WHAT IT IS.
THEY ARE A VERY TECHNICAL ENGINEERING COMPANY THAT HAS OPERATIONS THROUGHOUT THE SOUTHEAST.
WE ARE MOST PROUD OF THEIR GLAND OPERATIONS, BUT THIS IS COMPLEX AND VERY THOUGHTFUL AND VERY WELL DONE ACROSS THEIR ENTIRE FOOTPRINTS.
SO FIRST OFF, ENGINEERING IS AWESOME.
FA WE CAN'T, THIS CAN'T BE SAID ENOUGH.
THE LUCK FAMILY HAS INDELIBLE FOOTPRINTS ON SO MANY PROGRAMS THAT ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO GOOCHLAND.
UM, GLAND CARES, YMCA OF GLAND COUNTY SHELTERING ARMS, GOING BACK TO THE EARLY DAYS OF OUR VOLUNTEER FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT.
THEY DONATED THE LUCK FAMILY DONATED OUR FIRST AMBULANCE.
THIS IS A COMPANY THAT IS A MODEL CORPORATE CITIZEN FOR ANY JURISDICTION, NOT JUST GLAND.
I WOULD HOPE THAT ANY, UH, CITY OR COUNTY WOULD DROOL TO HAVE A CORPORATE CITIZEN LIKE L STONE WORKING WITH THEM AND WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARIES.
SO, UM, I, I HATE TO SAY THIS, WELL, I DON'T, I HATE TO SAY THIS, I LOVE TO SAY THIS, BUT TO THOSE CRITICAL OF LUCK, IN MANY WAYS, THAT'S LIKE CALLING SANTA FAT AND UGLY.
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I'M SORRY, I TAKE OFFENSE TO IT.AND I DO THINK PEOPLE NEED TO WATCH THEIR WORDS AND MEASURE THEM BECAUSE IT IS, YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT HAS BUILT A STERLING REPUTATION AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE EASILY TAKEN DOWN WITH STONES THROWN AND MISINFORMATION AND THINGS OF THE SORT.
SO IF THERE IS A REASON, GLAND REPRESENTATIVES AND STAFF ARE HEAVILY, UH, SUPPORTIVE AND DEFENDING LUCK COMPANIES, IT IS FOR GOOD REASON.
UM, SO, AND THEN FINALLY, I WILL, I WILL STRESS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND THE SAFETY IMPACT, BECAUSE THAT HAS COME UP A NUMBER OF TIMES.
MR. WINFREY JUST TOUCHED ON IT.
KEEPING TRUCK TRAFFIC OFF OF ASHLAND ROAD IS A MAJOR SAFETY BENEFIT TO GLAND COUNTY.
IT IS CALLOUS TO SAY THAT WE ARE NOT CARING OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE ARE INCREDIBLY, UH, FOCUSED ON THAT.
AND THIS PROJECT KEEPS ALL OF THESE TRUCKS OF A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE IN OUR COUNTY, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS CONTINUES FOR DECADES TO COME, NOT JUST, UH, THE NEAR TERM.
SO WE WANT TO, I MEAN, WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SEE LUCK FLOURISHING IN GLAND FOR ANOTHER A HUNDRED YEARS.
AND I, I, I UNDERSTAND EMOTION, I UNDERSTAND FRUSTRATION, BUT, MM-HMM,
AND THIS BOARD, I THINK, IS FIRMLY IN SUPPORT OF IT FOR ALL THE REASONS WE'VE GIVEN.
AND SO I, I KNOW INDIVIDUALS CAN BE UPSET WITH THAT, BUT I, I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED OUR CASE, THE COMPANY'S PRESENTED ITS CASE.
WE THROUGH MAKING COMMENTS FROM THIS DAYS HAVE PRESENTED, UH, OUR BELIEFS IN OUR CASE.
AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD, UH, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF OUR CONSTITUENTS IN GLAND COUNTY.
UH, DO WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE A SECOND.
SEE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
MR. CARPENTER, PLEASE READ THIS ROLL.
UM, WITH THAT, WE ARE THROUGH THE AGENDA.
[XVI. Adjournment]
TO TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1ST, 2024, THE BOARD IS INVITED TO ATTEND THE ANNUAL EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION LUNCHEON AT GLAND SPORTS COMPLEX.AND TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1ST, 2024, WE HAVE OUR REGULAR AFTERNOON MEETING, TIME TO BE DETERMINED, AND OUR 6:00 PM PUBLIC HEARINGS.
BOTH THE MEETING IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.