Jan 28, 2025 Board of Supervisors Special Meeting

COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY CERTIFY THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN PUBLIC REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY SUCH PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS.

WE WILL NOW RECONVENE THE MEETING AND EXIT

[2. Certification of Closed Meeting: Pursuant to Virginia Code § 2.2-3712(D), I move that the Goochland County Board of Supervisors hereby certify that, to the best of each member’s knowledge, (i) only public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements under the Freedom of Information Act, and (ii) only such public business matters as were identified in the motion convening the Closed Meeting were heard, discussed or considered by the Board of Supervisors in the closed meeting.]

THE CLOSED SESSION.

UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ THE CERTIFICATION OF A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE 22 DASH 37 12 DI MOVE THAT GOIN

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AS WAS WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION CONVENING, THE CLOSED MEETING WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN THE CLOSED MEETING.

SECOND.

DO YOU HAVE A SECOND OF THAT? SECOND.

DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL ON THAT ONE? YES.

LET'S DO A ROLL CALL.

I WILL NOW ADJOURN UNTIL THE FEBRUARY 4TH BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

DID YOU WANNA MAKE COMMENTS? WE DISCUSS WITH YOU THE INTERIM? YES.

OH.

UM, JUST TO REPORT, I GUESS DURING, DURING OUR, UM, CLOSED SESSION, UH, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED THE CHAIR TO NEGOTIATE A, UH, TEMPORARY INTERIM EMPLOYMENT RELATIONSHIP WITH A, AN INTERIM EMPLOYEE.

AND FINANCE COMMITTEE AT 1:00 PM ON THE, ON THE 4TH OF FEBRUARY, THE CONFERENCE ROOM TWO 70 IN THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR BUSINESS MEETING AT 3:00 PM ON THE 4TH OF FEBRUARY WHERE PUBLIC HEARINGS WILL BEGIN AT 6:00 PM AND MEETING WILL BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.

ANYTHING ELSE THAT I'VE FORGOTTEN? ALRIGHT.

UH, NOW I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, ADJOURN, UH, UNTIL THE FEBRUARY 4TH, 2025 BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AUDIT

[III. Adjournment]

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.

SECOND IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? WE ADJOURN.

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UM, I WISH TO CALL THIS, THIS MEETING OF THE, UM, UCHIN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM BOARD, UH, SCHOOL BOARD TO ORDER.

UM, WELCOME.

UM, THIS IS THE BUDGET WORKSHOP FOR UCHIN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

AND BEFORE WE START, I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, CALL FOR A MOMENT OF SCIENCE.

UM, MS. MAXWELL, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? PLEDGE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY JUSTICE.

UM, DO I HAVE ANY ADDITIONS, AMENDMENTS, OR ADOPTION OF THE UM, AGENDA? I'M SORRY.

DO I HAVE ANY, UH, ADDITIONS OR AMENDMENTS TO THE NOPE.

MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE AGENDAS PRESENTED.

DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION HEARING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NO.

ANY ABSTAINS.

ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE INFAMOUS START.

THEN WE HAVE THE APPROVE APPROVED, UM, AGENDA.

DR.

KUMAR.

THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, MADAM VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THOSE WHO ARE ASSEMBLED HERE TONIGHT AND THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING US VIA LIVE STREAM.

ALRIGHT, I'M VERY HAPPY TO BRING FORTH, UM, INFORMATION AS PART OF OUR THIRD BUDGET WORKSHOP THIS EVENING.

AND I WANNA START BY SHARING SOME INFORMATION THAT I CERTAINLY FOUND TO BE INTERESTING AS A RESIDENT AND CERTAINLY AS A SUPERINTENDENT OF GLAND COUNTY.

SINCE THE 2020 CENSUS, GLAND COUNTY HAS EXPERIENCED GROWTH AT A RATE OF 11.2% IN 2020.

THAT CENSUS REPORTED THAT WE HAD 24,727 RESIDENTS AS OF JULY ONE LAST YEAR, THAT NUMBER HAD GROWN TO 27,486, AN INCREASE OF 2,759 CITIZENS IN ABOUT A FOUR YEAR PERIOD.

WHEN I REFLECT ON WHY THAT IS, THERE ARE LOTS OF GREAT REASONS THAT I COULD ATTRIBUTE IT TO LOTS, BUT HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT ECONOMICS AND INVESTMENTS.

SO I'LL FOCUS ON THOSE THAT ARE GERMANE TO THOSE TOPICS.

HIGH REAL ESTATE ASSESSMENTS AND VERY COMFORTABLE PER PROPERTY TAX RATES ON THOSE ASSESSMENTS AND PROPERTIES IS VERY LUCRATIVE AS IT SPEAKS TO THE POTENTIAL PROFITABILITY OF SAID REAL ESTATE.

SHOULD REAL ESTATE BE SOLD? I SEE THAT AS A MAJOR ATTRACTION, PARTICULARLY AS SOMEONE WHO'S PURCHASED A HOME IN THIS COUNTY IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS.

BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE TOP THREE FASTEST GROWING LOCALES IN THE COMMONWEALTH, WE'RE JOINED BY NEW KENT AT NUMBER ONE WITH 16.8% GROWTH OVER THE SAME TIME PERIOD.

WE'RE HOLDING STEADFAST AT NUMBER TWO AS JUST MENTIONED AT 11.2 AND LOUISA'S THIRD WITH 10.2% GROWTH, POPULATION GROWTH OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

AND I ASKED TONIGHT, WHAT ARE ALL THREE OF THOSE LOCALES HAVE IN COMMON, HIGHLY REPUTABLE PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

THAT IS A COMMON DENOMINATOR ACROSS THOSE THREE COMMUNITIES.

IF YOU DARE TO DELVE FURTHER INTO THE DATA AND LOOK AT ALL COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED GROWTH AT A RATE OF GREATER THAN 5%, YOU WILL FIND THE COMMONALITY TO BE HIGHLY REPUTABLE.

WELL PERFORMING PUBLIC SCHOOLS, I ARGUE TONIGHT, AS I HAVE ARGUED SINCE I ARRIVED HERE, PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE THE LIFELINE TO ECONOMIC VITALITY IN COMMUNITIES.

IT JUST FLAT OUT IS, AND AS SUCH, WE SHOULD WILLINGLY AND HAPPILY AND UNDERSTANDABLY MAKE INVESTMENTS TO SUSTAIN THAT VITALITY.

SO TONIGHT I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A TALE OF TWO BUDGETS.

I MAY HAVE BORROWED THAT I MAY NOT HAVE.

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IT WAS THE BEST OF TIMES, IT WAS THE WORST OF TIMES.

THAT'S THE CONTEXT FOR TONIGHT'S BUDGET PRESENTATION.

I'M GONNA START WITH THE WORST OF TIMES AND WE'RE GONNA GROW TO THE BEST, THE WORST OF TIMES I PRESENT THE TONIGHT TO THE BOARD AND OUR COMMUNITY AS SCENARIO ONE.

THIS WILL BE A BUDGET WITH NO ADDITIONAL COUNTY FUNDING, ALSO KNOWN AS A FLAT BUDGET.

THERE'LL BE NO 3% COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR ANY EMPLOYEES, NO CAPITAL PROJECTS MOVED FROM THE CIP TO OPERATION AS PREVIOUSLY EXPLAINED AND RECOMMENDED BY THE COUNTY.

WE'LL REMOVE AN ADDITIONAL BUS FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET, ABSORB OUR TECHNOLOGY DEFICIT FROM STRATEGIC ABANDONMENT SAVINGS, AND WE'D HAVE ZERO FLEXIBILITY MOVING FORWARD FOR UNEXPECTED NEEDS.

THAT'S A FLAT BASED BUDGET.

THIS IS WHAT THE NUMBERS SAY.

I'D LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE COLUMNS, THE TWO COLUMNS AT THE CENTER OF THE GRAPH.

THE COLUMN THAT'S THE SECOND FROM THE LEFT INDICATES THE FUNDS THAT WE HAD HAD APPROPRIATED AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET.

THE COLUMNS RIGHT NEXT.

THE COLUMN RIGHT NEXT TO THAT ON THE RIGHT INDICATES THE MONEY THAT WE BRING IN ON A FLAT BASE BUDGET PROPOSED FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026.

THE SECOND COLUMN FROM THE RIGHT, THE NUMBERS THAT ARE IN PARENTHESES INDICATE REDUCTIONS.

THE NUMBERS THAT ARE NOT IN PARENTHESES INDICATE POTENTIAL INCREASE.

YOU'LL NOTICE A $262,260 DIFFERENCE RIGHT OUTTA THE GATE FROM INITIATIVES THAT WE FUNDED WITH DOLLARS FROM ARPA.

THAT MONEY IS NO LONGER A PART OF OUR REALITY AS THOSE DOLLARS HAVE EXPIRED, NOT JUST FOR US, BUT FOR EVERYONE.

THE KEY NUMBER THAT I WANT YOU TO FOCUS ON IS THE NUMBER THAT CIRCLED 0%.

THAT'S THE CHANGE IN BUDGETING, BUT IT'S NOT THE YEAR OVER YEAR CHANGE.

AS I'LL DRAW YOUR EYES FURTHER DOWN THE CHART, YOU'LL SEE ANOTHER DEFICIT OF $307,930, WHICH IS LOST AMONG OTHER THINGS WITH TUITIONS FROM PROGRAMS LIKE A CA, THE TOTAL LOSS.

AND SOME MAY WONDER, WELL, HOW CAN YOU HAVE A LOSS IF YOU'RE GETTING THE SAME DOLLARS AS YOU GOT PREVIOUSLY? WELL, THE SIMPLE MATH IS THINGS COST MORE NOW THAN THEY DID THEN.

LOOK AT OUR TUITIONS FOR MAGGIE O WALKER.

6% INCREASE THIS YEAR, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.

SO ACTUALLY WE'RE OPERATING IN A FLAT FUNDING SCENARIO.

$510,200 AT A DEFICIT, A REDUCTION IN YEAR OVER YEAR FUNDING OF 1.1% UNDER SCENARIO ONE.

THERE ARE A COUPLE THINGS THAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT I HAVEN'T MENTIONED THIS BUDGET CYCLE BECAUSE I HAVEN'T, BUT I'D LIKE TO MENTION THEM TONIGHT BECAUSE THEY AID THIS CONVERSATION.

AFTER WE HAD ADOPTED A BUDGET LAST YEAR, WE DETERMINED THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN UNUSUALLY HIGH NUMBER OF KINDERGARTEN STUDENTS ENROLLING IN OUR SCHOOLS IMPACTING ENROLLMENT AT BOTH RANDOLPH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND GLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

I COULD HAVE GONE TO THE COUNTY AND REQUESTED AN APPROPRIATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL FTE TO COVER THE COST OF A KINDERGARTEN TEACHER THAT WE HAD TO HIRE.

BUT IN MY MIND, I COULD HEAR THE REMINDER.

THE REMINDER, EXCUSE ME.

WE WANT YOU TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO SOLVE THE CHALLENGES OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION.

IT IS A TASK THAT I'VE BEEN MET WITH FREQUENTLY SINCE.

ASSUMING THE ROLE OF SUPERINTENDENT, WE WANT YOU TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO SOLVE THE CHALLENGES OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION.

SO WE DID, WE HIRED, WE CREATED AN FTE AND WE HIRED A KINDERGARTEN TEACHER AT RANDOLPH.

BUT IT WASN'T JUST FOR LAST YEAR.

THAT EXPENDITURE WILL ROLL BECAUSE THOSE KINDERGARTNERS ARE GONNA BECOME FIRST GRADERS.

AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS KINDERGARTEN COHORT IS GONNA LOOK LIKE UNTIL THOSE ENROLLMENTS REALLY START COMING IN AND GET CLOSE TO FINALITY.

IT ALSO INCLUDED AN INCREASE IN IFTE FOR OUR ES ESOL TEACHER, WHICH I'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS BUDGET CYCLE.

THE TOTAL COST OF THOSE INCREASE INCREASES, $88,120 UNBUDGETED THAT WE SAW AND FOUND

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CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO.

IN ADDITION, WE'VE GOT A 0.5 FTE FOR SCHOOL BOARD CLERK THAT WE'VE PRORATED TO ABSORB IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AT A TOTAL OF $13,500.

I SAY THAT THESE NUMBERS SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE FOUND CREATIVE WAYS TO SOLVE THE CHALLENGES OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION WITHIN OUR MEANS.

I'M GONNA SUBTITLE SCENARIO TWO AS THE BETTER OF TIMES.

I WAS AN ENGLISH TEACHER.

I KNOW THAT BEST IS SUPERLATIVE AND YOU CAN'T HAVE BEST UNLESS YOU'VE GOT THREE THINGS.

AND TONIGHT I'M PRESENTING TWO.

SO THIS IS COMPARATIVE.

THIS IS THE BETTER OF TIMES.

THE COUNTY PROVIDES US SOME FUNDING FOR INITIAL PRIORITIES TO INCLUDE A 3% COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.

I CANNOT STRESS THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT ENOUGH, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE COMMITTED TO DO AT LEAST 3% FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES AND WE WANNA STAY COMPETITIVE, BUT A 3% COST OF LIVING INCREASE IS THE ONLY WAY TO ENSURE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR EXHAUSTIVE EFFORTS LAST YEAR THIS TIME TO PROVIDE A MARKET ADJUSTMENT FOR OUR TEACHERS.

IF WE DON'T DO THAT, WE'RE GONNA FIND AGAIN THAT WE'RE REGRESSING TO THE END OF THE LINE AS OPPOSED TO THE FRONT, WHICH WE ALL AGREED WAS OUR GOAL CAPITAL PROJECTS MOVED FROM THE CIP TO THE OPERATING BUDGET IN THE PREVIOUS TWO BUDGET WORKSHOPS.

I HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT TOTAL TO BE ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

THE SCHOOL DIVISION WILL STILL NEED TO ABSORB THE TECHNOLOGY DEFICIT, WHICH I'LL SPEAK MORE ABOUT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.

THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNTY ON SUNDAY EVENING, AND IT IS A MORE PROMISING PICTURE.

I'LL ACKNOWLEDGE THE WAY THAT IT LOOKS ON THE LEDGER.

THIS WOULD REPRESENT AN INCREASE OF ALMOST $1.4 MILLION IN COUNTY CONTRIBUTION AND REPRESENT A FOUR, 4.7, EXCUSE ME, PERCENTAGE INCREASE IN THE OVERALL BUDGET YEAR OVER YEAR.

BUT I WANT YOUR EYES TO DROP DOWN TO THE TOTAL IMPACT OF 2% INFLATION DEPENDENT ON WHO YOU ASK IS 2.7 TO 2.9% TO CLOSE THE LAST YEAR.

THIS IS NOT ME SAYING THAT I'M NOT APPRECIATIVE OF THE ABILITY TO POSITION US TO DO SOME OF THESE THINGS.

SHOULD THEY BECOME OUR PRIORITIES.

THIS IS MY BEST EFFORT TO SHOW THAT THAT FUNDING LEVEL MAY STILL PROVE INADEQUATE.

UNDER SCENARIO TWO, WE HAVE FOUND CREATIVE WAYS TO STILL FULFILL SOME OF OUR GREATEST NEEDS UNDER THE SCENARIO THAT I JUST PRESENTED TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL TO GLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH TODAY HAS 519 STUDENTS, ONE MORE THAN LAST WEEK THIS TIME.

AND WE CAN DO THAT AT AN ESTIMATED COST INTERNALLY OF $32,000.

A FAR CRY FROM THE ORIGINAL $108,000 IN SALARY AND BENEFITS THAT I ORIGINALLY PRESENTED.

WE CAN INCREASE OUR PART-TIME ESL TEACHER TO FULL-TIME CONSIDERING THAT CHANGE WITH SALARY AND BENEFITS $35,000.

AND THIS IS AN SOQ REQUIREMENT.

SO 80% OF THAT BURDEN WILL BE ON THE SHOULDERS OF OUR LOCALE AND WE CAN INCREASE THE PART-TIME EMT TEACHER FROM A QUARTER FTE TO A HALF FTE.

AND THIS SPEAKS TO THE REMARKABLE POWER OF THAT PROGRAM AND THE SUBSCRIBERSHIP.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR KIDS WANT, WHICH IS WHY WE NEED ADDITIONAL SECTIONS OF IT.

AND WE CAN DO THAT FOR $9,100.

THIS CREATIVE INTERNAL PROBLEM SOLVING TOTAL $76,100 AND WE WOULD GLADLY MAKE THAT INVESTMENT IN OUR SCHOOL DIVISION SHOULD THIS BE THE PATH WE TAKE.

SO METHODS OF ABSORBING THE TECHNOLOGY CONTRACT PRO PROCURED IN FISCAL YEAR 2024 FOR THOSE WHO'VE NOT BEEN IN TUNE WITH OUR PREVIOUS WORK SESSIONS.

YOU, YOU MAY BE WONDERING, HOW ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ENCUMBRANCES THAT WERE PROCURED BY THE TIME WE ADOPT A BUDGET TWO BUDGET CYCLES AGO? WELL, THIS WAS A DEAL BROKERED TO GET THE MARKET ADJUSTMENT ACROSS THE LINE.

WE BASICALLY PROCURED $270,000 IN TECHNOLOGY

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CONTRACTS WITH THE FULL KNOWLEDGE THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO FINANCIALLY FULFILL THOSE PROCUREMENTS IN A SUBSEQUENT BUDGET CYCLE.

BUT IF THAT'S NOT HELD UP AND WE HAVE TO ABSORB THAT, THIS IS HOW I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DO IT.

WE REMOVE A SCHOOL BUS FROM OUR OPERATING FUND SCHOOL BUSES NOW COST AT THE TUNE OF ABOUT $147,000.

BUT I LIKE TO OUTLINE THE COST OF SACRIFICE.

I HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE ABOUT THE AGE AND MILEAGE OF OUR BUS FLEET.

AND BECAUSE WE'VE MADE SIMILAR DECISIONS IN PRIOR FISCAL YEARS TO DELAY OR POSTPONE BUYING SCHOOL BUSES, WE'RE WELL OFF OUR REPLENISHMENT CYCLE.

THE ONLY WAY THAT WE ARE EVER TO GET OUR BUSES AT A PLACE WHERE EVERY BUS IN OUR FLEET IS NOT AT ITS EXPIRATION IN MILES OR NOT 15 YEARS OLD, IS FOR US TO TAKE AN AGGRESSIVE APPROACH TO INVEST IN REPLENISHING SCHOOL BUSES.

THIS IS NOT THAT, BUT THIS IS A SACRIFICE THAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO THE BOARD AS A MECHANISM OF ACCOUNTING FOR THAT $270,000.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE WOULD REMOVE OUR REQUESTS FOR TWO MAINTENANCE VEHICLES.

I SEE OUR MAINTENANCE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD IN THE COUNTY ALL THE TIME, AND SOMETIMES I WONDER, LORDY, THAT ONE CERTAINLY HAS SEEN ITS BEST DAYS AND THE WORK IS THE SAME AND THE HALL'S THE SAME AND THE NECESSITY TO CARRY THE EQUIPMENT'S THE SAME.

AND THESE VEHICLES ARE WELL OVER RECOMMENDED MILEAGE AND NOT IN THE BEST OF PHYSICAL CONDITION.

BUT TO GET THIS OVER THE LINE, WE DELAY THE SUPERINTENDENT'S DUTY, IS TO PROPOSE A BUDGET THAT FULLY ACCOUNTS FOR THE ACTUAL NEEDS OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION.

SO WHAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT NEXT ISN'T AN OPTION.

IT IS A CONSIDERATION AND IN MY ASSESSMENT, IT GETS US CLOSER TO THE BEST OF TIMES.

THOSE THREE INTERVENTIONISTS THAT WE'VE MADE AN EARNEST PLEA FOR FOUR, THE TOTAL COST IS THERE AN ESOL TEACHER, ADDITIONAL ESOL TEACHER, WHICH MAY BECOME AN SOQ POSITION.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.

THAT MAY ACTUALLY BECOME A POSITION THAT'S MANDATED UNDER THE STANDARDS OF QUALITY.

AND IF IT DOES, WE'D BETTER BE IN A POSITION TO FINANCE 80% OF THAT FTEA WORK-BASED LEARNING COORDINATOR.

OUR STUDENTS PRESENTED FOR THE SUPERVISORS LAST WEEK TO THE AWE OF THE ENTIRE CROWD AND ADORATION OF THE SUPERVISORS SEEMINGLY ABOUT WORK-BASED LEARNING.

WE NEED SOMEONE TO LEAD THAT EFFORT FOR OUR SCHOOL DIVISIONS, FOR OUR STUDENTS AS THEY TRANSITION THOSE WHO WILL, FROM THE WORLD OF PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE IN THEIR CAREER AND TECHNICAL EDUCATION COURSES AND OTHERWISE INTO THE WORLD OF WORK.

WE HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WHERE BUSINESSES TELL US WHAT KIND OF EMPLOYEES THEY WANT, WHAT TYPE OF SKILLS THEY NEED OUR KIDS TO SHOW UP WITH.

AND WE'VE GOT CURRICULA THAT'S STACKED THAT DON'T NECESSARILY ALLOW THE TIME TO REFINE THOSE SKILLS IN YOUNG PEOPLE SO THAT WE WILL HAVE A MORE CAPABLE AND MORE APT WORKFORCE IN THE COUNTY.

PERCENTAGE BASED STIPENDS FOR OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL COACHES, AS SIMPLE AS THAT SEEMS. AND AS POULTRY AS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT SEEMS, LEMME TELL YOU WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT.

OUR HIGH SCHOOL COACHES ARE PAID A STIPEND THAT'S A PERCENTAGE OF THEIR BASE SALARY, WHICH MEANS THAT THAT CONTINUES TO GROW OVER TIME.

THE MIDDLE SCHOOL COACHES ARE PAID A FLAT STIPEND.

SO THE DIFFERENCE THAT EXISTS TODAY ONLY GROWS EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

AND THE TIME COMMITMENT IS COMPARABLE, LIKELY THE SAME.

I THINK WE CAN DO BETTER BY OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL COACHES.

WE WANTED ROBOTICS PROGRAMS AND BOY HAVE WE GOTTEN ROBOTICS PROGRAMS. WE SAW IT LAST MONTH WITH THE ELEMENTARY TEAMS. WE'RE GONNA SEE IT AGAIN ON FEBRUARY THE 11TH WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL TEAMS. AND THESE ARE TEAMS THAT GO OFF TO COMPETITIONS AND COME BACK WITH MAJOR ACCOLADES SHINING AN EVEN BRIGHTER LIGHT ON GLAND COUNTY.

IN OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WE DON'T HAVE A BETTER AMBASSADOR THAN OUR, THAN OUR, UH, ROBOTICS PROGRAMS. WE SIMPLY DON'T.

WE NEED AN ASSISTANT COACH FOR ROBOTICS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL AND AN AGRICULTURE TEACHER AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL LEVEL.

VARIOUS MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY HAVE EXPRESSED

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A DESIRE TO HAVE THIS, TO INTRODUCE KIDS TO THAT CURRICULUM AS EARLY AS SIXTH GRADE.

THE BEST OF TIMES WOULD REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL $625,897, AN ADDITIONAL 2.1% IN THE YEAR OVER YEAR THAT I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, BRINGING THAT TOTAL INCREASE TO 6.8% YEAR OVER YEAR.

I DON'T WANT TO BE ON THE SOAPBOX, BUT THE WAY THAT VIRGINIA PUBLIC SCHOOL FUNDING IS CALCULATED, SUGGEST A HIGH ABILITY TO PAY AND FUND OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN GOLAND COUNTY.

THAT'S WHY OUR LOCAL COMPOSITE INDEX IS WHAT IT IS.

IT ILLUSTRATES A HIGH ABILITY TO PAY.

I'VE LIVED LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT WHEN THINGS DON'T GET DONE, THEY DON'T GET DONE EITHER DUE TO AN INABILITY OR AN UNWILLINGNESS.

AND I JUST DEMONSTRATED THE ABILITY.

SO I LEAD TONIGHT WITH A QUESTION FOR US TO PONDER, AND IT'S NOT RHETORICAL THIS WEEK.

WHAT ARE OUR PRIORITIES? WHAT OPTIONS SHOULD WE PUT FORTH? WHAT CONVERSATIONS SHOULD WE CONTINUE TO HAVE? MADAM CHAIR, MADAM VICE CHAIR, I THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS.

MADAM CHAIR.

CAN WE GO BACK TO THE LAST SLIDE? ARE THOSE, UM, PRIORITIZED FROM OUR ON THIS CHART? ARE THEY PRIORITIZED AS OUR GREATEST? UM, LIKE IF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WANTED TO KNOW WHICH ONE OUT OF THAT GROUP WE WANTED THE MOST, IS THAT YES MA'AM.

IN PRIORITY? YES MA'AM.

I WOULD SAY YES.

UM, IF, IF LEFT TO MAKE ONE ADJUSTMENT, I WOULD LIKELY MOVE THE PERCENTAGE STIPENDS AND THE ASSISTANT COACH FOR ROBOTICS UP AHEAD OF THE WORK-BASED LEARNING COORDINATOR.

BUT YES MA'AM.

THIS IS A ROUGH PRIORITIZATION OF NEEDS.

AND DO YOU STILL FEEL, UM, I KNOW DR.

GEER GAVE A REALLY GREAT, UM, PRESENTATION, BUT I STILL FEEL THAT, UM, WE'RE ONLY ONE YEAR INTO VOWS AND, UM, HAVEN'T HAD THE TIME TO REALLY SEE THE OUTCOME OF IT YET.

DO YOU STILL THINK THAT WITH OUR SCORES AND OUR PROJECTED, UM, THE PROJECTED SCORES OF WHAT WE THINK OUR STUDENTS ARE CAPABLE OF DOING, THAT THAT'S STILL, UH, THE HIGHEST PRIORITY? I MEAN, I, I'M ALL FOR INTERVENTIONISTS, BUT MM-HMM .

BUT IS IT, SHOULD IT BE STILL AT NUMBER ONE? SO CONSIDERING WE HAVE REALLY GREAT, YES, MA'AM, I UNDERSTAND THAT COURSE AND THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

I LOOK AT PRIORITIES IN TERMS OF THE VOLUME OF CHILDREN THAT THEY IMPACT.

THE THREE INTERVENTIONISTS HOLD THE POTENTIAL TO IMPACT THE GREATEST VOLUME OF KIDS.

FOR EXAMPLE, NOT TO PICK ON THE IDEA, BUT AN AGRICULTURE TEACHER AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL, DEPENDING ON THE NUMBER OF KIDS WE HAVE WHO CHOOSE TO ENROLL IN THE COURSES MAY AT BEST IMPACT 60 TO 90 CHILDREN.

THAT WOULD BE THE TEACH WORKLOAD OR TEACHING LOAD OF A TEACHER, ONE FTE.

THESE INTERVENTIONISTS PROMISED TO HAVE AN IMPACT OF SOME KIND ON HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN ACROSS THREE CAMPUSES.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DATA ARE GONNA SUGGEST OUR NEEDS TO BE FOR MATHEMATICS.

I DO KNOW THAT OUR EMPHASIS ON MATHEMATICS HAS DECLINED, NOT INTENTIONALLY, BUT DUE TO OUR OVEREMPHASIS MANDATED OVEREMPHASIS ON LITERACY.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT HAS HAPPENED.

SO IT STANDS TO REASON FOR ME.

WHAT GETS MEASURED GETS DONE IS STANDS FOR REASON FOR ME TO CONCLUDE THAT IF WE'RE NOT GIVEN THE ATTENTION TO GIVE KIDS WHO NEED SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED DEFICITS IN NUMERACY BECAUSE WE'RE STRETCHED TO CAPACITY WITH EXISTING STAFF ADVANCING THE LITERACY, IT STANDS TO REASON THAT WE WILL SEE DEFICITS.

I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL.

I CAN'T PREDICT THAT.

THAT'S JUST A TREND THAT'S HIGHLY LIKELY.

UM, AND THANK YOU, STEPHANIE FOR THE, THE TABLES I HAD ASKED FOR, THEY REALLY HELP PROVIDE CLARITY AROUND THE DOLLARS AND CENTS.

UM, I APPRECIATE THE CONTEXT ON THE EXAMPLE, AGAIN, FOR ILLUSTRATIVE PURPOSES WITH THE MIDDLE SCHOOL AG TEACHER, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR ESTIMATED IMPACT ON THE EMT TEACHER? 40 TO 50.

I MEAN, I'M SAYING I'M TRYING USE THE SAME RIGHT, I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND THAT'S A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD COMPARISON TO DRAW, BUT IT ALSO GETS TO THE POINT OF WE HAVE AN EMT PROGRAM TO

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NOT DO THAT WOULD BE TO REDUCE PROGRAMS. AND WE HAVE A COMMITMENT TO NOT REDUCE PROGRAMS. WE DO NOT HAVE, WE HAVE AN AG PROGRAM, BUT WE DO NOT HAVE AN AG PROGRAM PER SE, AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOL.

SO THIS WOULD BE NEW.

THIS WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE REDUCING OR ELIMINATING.

THIS WOULD BE ADDITIONAL.

AND WE DO HAVE AGRICULTURE OFFERINGS FOR MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS AT THE EIGHTH GRADE.

I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO INTRODUCE KIDS TO THIS CURRICULUM EARLIER, AND I GET THAT, BUT I DON'T WANT, I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THAT.

WE DO HAVE AN AGRICULTURE OFFERING THAT MR. ALLEN TEACHES TO EIGHTH GRADE STUDENTS.

AND JUST FOR CLARITY, THE EMT PROPOSAL WAS MOVING THAT PERSON FROM A QUARTER TO A HALF YES.

FOR A HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT.

UM, AND IS THAT TO SUPPORT ENROLLMENT NEEDS DR.

KAMAR, OR IS THAT TO ALL FOR ADDITIONAL COURSES? UM, I THINK THEY'RE ONE IN THE SAME.

YOU'VE GOT KIDS WHO WILL MOVE FROM LEVEL ONE TO LEVEL TWO OF A COURSE AND AND WE WANT THEM TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY.

SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LEVEL TWO OF A COURSE.

RIGHT.

AND KEEP IN MIND THAT'S A, THAT'S A $9,100 ENCUMBRANCE THAT WE'VE FOUND WAYS TO ABSORB INTERNALLY.

CREATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING.

IT'S GREAT.

NO, IT'S GREAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, SO THAT YOU ARE PREPARED FOR A COUNTER POSITION BECAUSE, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PREVIOUS BOARD AROUND THE GROWTH IN GLAND COUNTY'S POPULATION.

THE COUNTER POSITION THAT I HAVE HEARD EXPRESSED FROM OUR SUPERVISORS IS THAT THAT GROWTH DOES NOT INCLUDE FAMILIES WITH SCHOOL AGED CHILDREN.

YEP.

I DON'T HAVE ANY DATA TO SUBSTANTIATE.

IT'S LIKELY TRUE.

SO I JUST WANT MM-HMM .

I'LL SPEAK TO THIS THAT WAY OR, OR SPEAK TO THAT, THIS WAY, , WE'RE TRAINING EVERY SINGLE DAY THE KIND OF NEIGHBORS PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEY SEND CHILDREN TO US OR NOT.

AND, AND I, I'M NOT GONNA CLIMB TOO HIGH UP ON THE SOAPBOX.

BEYOND THAT, PROPER WELL-FUNDED PUBLIC EDUCATION BUILDS AND TRAINS THE KINDS OF NEIGHBORS THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO HAVE.

AND TRUST ME, THE ALTERNATIVE IS UNCONSCIONABLE .

YEAH, NO, I'LL LEAVE THAT AND I KNOW I'M GONNA BE MET WITH THAT.

I WAS MET WITH THAT LAST YEAR.

THAT WON'T SURPRISE ME AT ALL.

OKAY, GOOD.

UM, AND BY THE WAY, PHILOSOPHICALLY WE SHARE THE REASON WHY GOOD SCHOOLS MAKE STRONG COMMUNITIES.

I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT.

THAT IS NOT, UH, DISPUTABLE FROM, FROM MY POSITION.

UM, I JUST WANT TO CALL OUT, UM, THE BOARD AGREED TO SUPPORT THE GLAND EDUCATION FOUNDATION'S AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM, I BELIEVE, TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $300,000, A HUNDRED THOUSAND A YEAR.

THE, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

YES, SIR.

YES MA'AM.

THANK YOU FOR MM-HMM .

THE SPECIFICITY, UH, $300,000, ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND PER YEAR.

UM, AND THAT'S A PROGRAM I BELIEVE WE'LL SEE COMING ONLINE NEXT FALL OR THIS COMING FALL.

THIS COMING FALL.

WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS, UM, HOW MUCH LEVERAGE MIGHT WE BE ABLE TO GET FROM AN INTERVENTION OR A READING SPECIALIST TYPE, UH, PROGRAMMING FOR THE BENEFIT OF CHILDREN THAT PARTICIPATE IN THE GEF AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM? SO THAT PROGRAM WILL COME AT A COST TO FAMILIES WHO SUBSCRIBE TO IT, AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO BE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CHARGING FOR GENERAL INTERVENTION.

FAIR ENOUGH.

THAT, THAT PROGRAM WILL COME AT A COST TO FAMILIES COMPARABLE TO WHAT THEY PAY AT THE YMCA OR PARKS AND REC.

VERY GOOD.

UM, ON SCENARIO ONE, AND I THINK IT WAS SLIDE THREE OR FOUR, I'M NOT QUITE SURE THERE YOU THAT ONE THE, WITH THE DATA.

THANK YOU SIR.

UM, YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT IT'S NOT A REDUCTION.

I WANT TO JUST CLARIFY.

IF WE GO WITH SCENARIO ONE, WHICH IS THE FLAT, UH, BUDGET, UM, IT'S NOT A REDUCTION IN FUNDING BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME FUNDING, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS IT BECOMES A DEFICIT IN OUR BUDGET BECAUSE, TO YOUR POINT, THE INCREASED COST, AND THAT IS CORRECT.

YOU GAVE TWO GREAT EXAMPLES ABOUT A CA AND MAGGIE WALKER MM-HMM .

UM, SO THE SAME BUDGET STILL PUTS US IN A NEGATIVE, UH, POSITION IF, IF ALL OTHER THINGS HELD TRUE.

THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WHAT THE TABLE IN FRONT OF YOU ILLUSTRATES.

YEP.

AND, UM, MY LAST COMMENT, AND THEN I'LL LET SOMEBODY ELSE CHIME IN.

COST OF LIVING INCREASES, UM, IF I'M REMEMBERING CORRECTLY, I THINK YOU SAID THOSE WILL COME TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT $880,000, $885,000? YES, MA'AM.

THAT'S MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.

IT SAYS, LOCAL REVENUES FOR APPROPRIATED 2025 BUDGET IS SIX 35,000 AND PROPOSED IS 3 72.

UM, ON THIS SLIDE

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WHY IS OUR LOCAL REVENUE GOING DOWN? SO THAT WAS THE POINT THAT I MADE EARLIER.

THE $635,242 REPRESENTS THE APPROPRIATION IN THE CURRENT FISCAL.

SO THAT'S THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.

RIGHT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR UNDER A, A FLAT BASE BUDGET SYSTEM.

AND I IDENTIFIED THAT, UH, REDUCTION IN COST TO BE ATTRIBUTED TO ARPA FUNDS THAT NO LONGER EXIST FOR US THAT WE USE TO PAY FEDERAL GRANTS.

EXPENSES, OH, FEDERAL GRANTS THAT WERE INTRODUCED DURING THE TIME OF COVID.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WERE GRANT DOLLARS TO BEGIN WITH FEDERAL DOLLARS AND NOT LOCAL DOLLARS.

THE LOCAL DOLLARS WILL BE WHAT REMAINS.

AND I WOULD JUST ADD IT WAS INDIRECT COSTS FROM FEDERAL GRANTS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, ALLOCATE IT INTO OUR LOCAL BUDGET.

AND SO THOSE, THAT IS ONE TIME FUNDING.

OH, OKAY.

SO WHEN IT SAYS LOCAL REVENUES, IT SHOULD SAY LOCAL AND FEDERAL? NO, YOU HAVE A FEDERAL LINE AT THE BOTTOM.

IT'S JUST INDIRECT COST, UM, CAN BE MOVED FROM YOUR FEDERAL GRANTS INTO YOUR LOCAL OPERATING BUDGET.

INDIRECT COSTS ARE LIKE THINGS, UH, LIKE THE OVERHEAD COST OF MANAGING THE GRANT.

UM, SO I'D BE HAPPY TO DISCUSS THAT MORE IF YOU WANTED NO, NO.

SOME INFORMATION.

NO, I, I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY LOCAL WENT DOWN 262,000.

IT'S ATTRIBUTABLE TO THAT.

AND AGAIN, I'LL REITERATE THE LOCAL IS WHAT IT WAS.

IT WAS SUPPLEMENTED BY THE AMOUNT THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT FOR ARPA.

UM, WHAT IS THE TECHNOLOGY DEFICIT IN TERMS OF AMOUNT, OR IN TERMS OF HOW IT CAME TO BE? WHY, WHY IS THERE A TECHNOLOGY DEFICIT AND WHAT IS IT? OKAY.

SO WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO LIMP ACROSS THE LINE WITH PROVIDING THE MARKET ADJUSTMENT FOR STAFF, THE MARKET ADJUST THE, THE $270,000 IN TECHNOLOGY INITIATIVES WERE SUGGESTED TO BE ENCUMBERED OR PROCURED IN THAT CURRENT FISCAL YEAR.

WHICH AT THAT TIME WOULD'VE BEEN FISCAL YEAR 2024, THAT FREED UP CONCEIVABLY AN EQUITABLE AMOUNT TO HELP AID IN GETTING THE MARKET ADJUSTMENT ACROSS THE LINE.

YOU'LL REMEMBER AROUND THE TIME WE REMOVED A SCHOOL BUS THAT WAS EVENTUALLY PURCHASED WITH PROFFER MONEY.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS WERE DONE IN A UNIFIED EFFORT TO FREE UP THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAD REMAINING TO GET US ACROSS THE FINISH LINE FOR THE MARKET ADJUSTMENT.

BUT THE UNDERSTANDING ALWAYS WAS THAT WE BE MADE WHOLE ON THAT DEFICIT.

SO WE, SO WE, WE, WE GRABBED MONEY FROM A KEEPER.

EXACTLY.

THAT'S ONE WAY OF PUTTING IT.

MAYBE THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING.

WE CALLED IT STRATEGIC NEGOTIATION.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

HOW, HOW'S THAT WORKING OUT FOR US NOW? OKAY.

WELL, UM, I I THINK 246 PEOPLE WOULD SAY IT'S WORKING OUT GREAT.

UM, WHAT, WHY ARE THE PROPOSED AND APPROPRIATED, OH, NEVERMIND.

ALREADY DID THAT ONE.

UM, OKAY.

NOW THE 32,000 FOR THE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL IN SCENARIO TWO, UM, THAT'S THE, LET'S SAY PRORATED FOR, WELL, WITH THE, WITH THE, WHAT YOU'RE TAKING AWAY FROM TEACHING TEACHER SALARY TO, TO GIVE TO A ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL, WHAT THAT $32,000 REPRESENTS IS AN INCREASE OF MOVING THAT PERSONNEL, THAT INDIVIDUAL FROM THEIR CURRENT PAY SCALE TO AN ASSISTANT PAY ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL'S PAY SCALE AND EXTENDING THE DAY, THE DAYS IN THE CONTRACT.

SO WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YOU'VE GOTTA PLACE THEM APPROPRIATELY WITH REGARD TO COMPENSATION.

AND THAT COMPENSATION INCREASE FLUCTUATES WITH THE NUMBER OF DAYS MM-HMM .

THAT THE CONTRACT WILL REQUIRE THAT PERSON TO BE ON HAND.

ALSO, THE BENEFITS INCREASE.

THE CONTRIBUTIONS FOR INSURANCES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE INCREASE AS THE SALARY DOES IN THE SAME WAY THAT IT WOULD FOR AN INCREASED FTE FOR ESOL OR ANY OTHER INCREASED FTE, THE SAVINGS HERE COMES IN THAT WE'RE NOT ADDING TO THE BUDGET BY GOING OUT AND RECRUITING A NEW PERSON WHO'D COME IN AND HAVE TO BE PLACED ON THE SALARY, SCALE, SALARY AND BENEFITS, AND THEN STILL HAVE THIS PERSON IN THEIR EXISTING ROLE.

THERE IS NO INTENT TO BACKFILL THE ROLE THAT THIS PERSON WOULD MOVE OUT OF TO BECOME AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

BUT NEXT YEAR, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN? NO, NO, NO.

THE FOLLOWING YEAR, THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR.

UHHUH .

JUST LIKE I DESCRIBED AND EXPLAINED LAST YEAR, ONCE YOU MAKE A MOVE LIKE THIS, THAT BECOMES THE BASELINE.

UM, MS. MCKAY SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT.

THAT BECOMES THE BASELINE.

IF WE'RE HAVING A HARD ENOUGH TIME GETTING IT THIS YEAR, THEN WHO KNOWS? WHO KNOWS? UM, I, I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T, I I, I'M AGAINST AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL.

I, I THINK THAT IT SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE DONE ON ITS OWN.

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IF SHE NEEDS A LITTLE BIT OF HELP FROM SOMEONE, THEN, YOU KNOW, BE CREATIVE, GET THE PEOPLE INVOLVED.

UM, NOW I ALSO HAVE, AND THIS ONE IS GONNA REALLY HIT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, ALMOST EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, UM, WITH THE, WITH THE PAY INCREASE, IT'S A 3% PAY PAY INCREASE FOR ALL EMPLOYEES.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT INCLUDES ADMINISTRATION.

THAT'S CORRECT.

I THINK IN TI, IN, IN, IN THIN TIMES WHEN THE MONEY'S NOT FREELY FLOWING, THEN THE TEACHER SHOULD COME FIRST.

AND IF WE DON'T GET THE MONEY AS, AS ASKED, THEN I DON'T THINK THAT THE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD GET A 3% PAY RAISE.

I WILL RESPOND TO THAT BY SAYING THIS, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, THE TEACHERS HAVE ALWAYS COME FIRST.

THE TEACHERS CAME FIRST EXCLUSIVELY LAST FISCAL WHEN THEY RECEIVED A MARKET ADJUSTMENT MM-HMM .

IN ADDITION TO A 5% COST OF LIVING INCREASE THAT OTHER EMPLOYEES ENJOY.

RIGHT.

SO, I'D PREFER NOT TO PUT THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF TEACHERS NOT COMING FIRST.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS.

OH, NO, NO, NO.

I'M NOT SAYING THAT.

BUT IF WE NEED, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR THE TEACHERS TO GET A 3% OR WHATEVER THE, THE NUMBER WORKS OUT TO BE, THEN I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD COME THAT THE, THE ADMINISTRATION SHOULD BE HAPPY TO, TO GIVE UP THEIRS THEIR, THEIR 3% RAISE.

IT'S JUST THE WAY I AM.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR THE BOARD'S OVERALL FEELINGS ABOUT AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AND IF SHE IS BEING HIRED WITHIN, ARE WE CREATING A VOID IN HER PLACE? I MEAN, IS SHE BEING TAKEN FROM THE CLASSROOM? NO.

AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO TALK ABOUT THE POSITION WITH ANY SPECIFICITY.

BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE THE ONLY PERSON IN THEIR SPOT.

AND IT'S HARD TO DO THAT WITHOUT IDENTIFYING THAT PERSON.

AND I HAVE, I'M NOT SAYING NO, I'M SAYING I HAVE RESERVATION THAT WE'RE NOT THROUGH THE FIRST YEAR AT GES THAT WE'RE JUMPING ON AN ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL.

I JUST HAVE RESERVATION AT THIS TIME.

I'M NOT DONE.

I WAS THANKING YOU FOR THAT POINT.

I'VE GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THESE INTERVENTIONISTS AND SOME OF YOU KNOW, WHY COMING FROM MY BOARD OF SUPERVISOR, AND HE HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE AND LISTENING.

AND, UH, WE ARE PRIVILEGED THIS WEEK TO CONTINUE OUR CONVERSATION WITH, UM, DR.

GUYER.

AND MY FIRST QUESTION IS, HAD WE EVER, HAVE WE EVER CONSIDERED, INSTEAD OF HIRING AN INTERVENTIONIST, BECAUSE WE WANNA KEEP OUR CLASSROOMS SMALL, HAVE WE EVER CONSIDERED HIRING ANOTHER TEACHER TO MAKE THE CLASSROOMS EVEN SMALLER, UTILIZING THE TEACHERS WE ALREADY HAVE WHO HAVE BEEN TRAINED AND ARE BEING CONTINUALLY TRAINED, HAVE GONE TO COLLEGE? I DON'T QUESTION THEIR ABILITY IN ONE WAY.

I THINK THEY PROBABLY COULD HANDLE ANYTHING THAT WE'D THROW AT 'EM.

FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE CHOSEN AND HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT HAVING A READING SPECIALIST AT EACH OF OUR SCHOOLS.

I WAS RECENTLY IN A MEETING DOWNTOWN THAT I ASKED FOUR OTHER SCHOOL DIVISIONS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ABOVE YOUR READING SPECIALIST IN YOUR ELEMENTARY? TWO SCHOOLS WERE SMALL LIKE US, SIMILAR, THE OTHER TWO WERE LARGE.

ALL FOUR SAID, NO, WE HAVE ONE READING SPECIALIST.

DO I KNOW WHAT THEIR SCORES ARE? I HAVE NO CLUE.

SCIENCE OF READING, WHICH IS LIKE 1 0 1 FOR ME 30 YEARS AGO, EXCEPT IT HAS, IT STILL HAS PHONEMIC AWARENESS, PHONICS FLUENCY, VOCABULARY AND COMPREHENSION.

I WAS JUST KIND OF POLLING WHERE I WAS WITH THE TIME THAT I WAS GIVEN.

WE HAVE GREAT TEST SCORES THAT PROVES WE HAVE GREAT TEACHERS WITHOUT A DOUBT.

UM, I STILL JUST HAVE RESERVATIONS OF NEEDING ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR A CLASSROOM TEACHER, KNOWING WHAT IT TAKES TO MEET INDIVIDUAL NEEDS, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT TAKES TO MEET INDIVIDUAL NEEDS.

HAVING PERSONALLY BEEN TRAINED TO DO THAT, THAT TO HAVE EVEN MORE SUPPORT IN THE CLASSROOM, I NEED TO BE CONVINCED.

AND I TELL YOU, I HAVE SPENT HOURS READING ABOUT THE

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WHEN I FIRST STARTED FIRST GRADE.

AND I REALLY DO NOT BELIEVE CHILDREN ARE ANY DIFFERENT.

WE WERE TOLD THESE KIDS DON'T DO ANYTHING BUT READ.

YOU TEACH THEM TO READ.

WE DON'T WANT ANY OF THE FRU IN THE CLASSROOMS. WE, WE'VE MOVED BEYOND THAT AND ALLOWED A LOT MORE TO COME INTO THE CLASSROOMS TO MAKE IT MORE INVITING.

AND AS RECENT AS 15 YEARS AGO, I AGREE WITH THAT.

BUT I JUST STILL HAVE TO CHALLENGE, NOT ONLY FROM A BOARD OF SUPERVISOR STANDPOINT, BUT HAVE TO BE CONVINCED THAT WE SHOULDN'T USE THAT MONEY TO HIRE THREE MORE TEACHERS TO HAVE LOWER CLASS SIZES SO THAT OUR TEACHERS HAVE MORE, UH, TIME TO INDIVIDUALIZE.

ALONG WITH THE READING SPECIALIST, I'VE GONE THROUGH THE READING CURRICULUM THAT WE'VE ADOPTED, THERE IS NOT A TEACHER IN THIS COUNTY THAT CANNOT DO THAT ON HER OWN WITH A LOT OF EXTRA WORK.

AND I SUPPORT HER HAVING THAT INTERVENTION IN HER CLASSROOM.

I THINK THAT THE SCIENCE OF READING IS PSYCHOLOGY, AND I THINK IT'S NEUROSCIENCE, AND I THINK IT ALL PLAYS INTO HOW A CHILD LEARNS TO READ.

I'M JUST LOOKING AT A $300,000 ASK, AND IS THAT WHERE WE WANT OUR MONEY? I WILL FOLLOW UP ON TWO POINTS.

ONE OF THEM BEING THE ULTIMATE QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED ME.

I WANNA RESPECTFULLY NOTE THAT INTERVENTIONISTS ARE NOT THERE IN SUPPORT OF TEACHERS.

THEY'RE THERE IN SUPPORT OF STUDENTS.

IF WE WERE TO HIRE THREE ADDITIONAL TEACHERS AND WE'VE GOT SIX GRADES IN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHERE THOSE THREE TEACHERS WOULD, WOULD WE HIRE TWO KINDERGARTEN, ONE FIRST THREE, FIRST TWO SECOND, AND ONE FIRST TO MAKE THE IMPACT, TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ON.

AND REMIND ME OF THE FINAL QUESTION.

I'M SORRY.

MRS. ROBINSON.

JUST, IS THIS THE BEST PLACE? AH, THAT IS THE DETERMINATION OF THIS BOARD BECAUSE SUPERINTENDENT'S DUTY IS TO PROPOSE A BUDGET THAT FULLY ACCOUNTS FOR THE ACTUAL NEEDS AS PERCEIVED BY THE SUPERINTENDENT AND CENTRAL ADMINISTRATION OF THE SCHOOL DIVISION.

ONCE I TURN THIS OVER, IT WILL GO FROM BEING THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PROPOSED BUDGET TO THE SCHOOL BOARD'S PROPOSED BUDGET.

SO THAT DETERMINATION RESTS WITH YOU ALL.

I JUST WANT TO STATE FOR MY, SORRY FOR MYSELF.

UM, SO FOR ME, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE BACKGROUND AS AN EDUCATOR, UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME IS FOR THE EMPLOYEES TO BE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE IF THEY FEEL TAKEN CARE OF, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE GOOD CARE OF THE CHILDREN.

SO THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT.

SO FOR ME, 3% ACROSS THE BOARD I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND THAT IT EVEN INCLUDES ADMINISTRATION.

SO THANK YOU.

I WANT TO, I WANNA REMIND YOU THAT I PRESENTED TWO SCENARIOS THE WORST OF TIMES AND THE BETTER AT TIMES.

AND I PRESENTED THE BEST POSSIBLE TIMES AS CONSIDERATIONS.

I'M NOT COMING HERE TONIGHT TO RECOMMEND RIGHT NOW WITH FUNDING THAT WE ANTICIPATE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO US, THAT WE'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO ANY OF THESE THINGS MUCH LESS, ANY COMBINATION OR ALL OF THEM.

BUT IT IS MY DUTY TO HIGHLIGHT THESE THINGS AS NEEDS AND THEY CAN BE REMAINING NEEDS.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT, HEY, IF WE COULD HAVE SECURED THE FUNDING, HOW AWESOME WOULD IT HAVE BEEN FOR KIDS IF WE COULD HAVE DONE THESE THINGS? IF WE CAN'T DO THESE THINGS, THEN THESE THINGS WON'T BE INCLUDED IN THE SCHOOL BOARD'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

AND THAT'S THE EBB AND FLOW OF SCHOOL FINANCE PROCESSES.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT NONE OF THIS IS PERSONAL TO MICHAEL REMAR.

IT'S ALL VERY PERSONAL TO THE SUPERINTENDENT OF GLAND COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

I TEND TO HAVE AN ABILITY TO SEPARATE MY PERSONAL WANTS AND NEEDS FROM SCENARIOS.

I FOUND IT TO BE VERY HEALTHY.

KAMAR, INTERVENTIONISTS, TEACHERS, SUPERINTENDENTS, AND SCHOOL BOARDS.

MADAM CHAIR.

UM, DR.

WE'RE ALL HERE TO SUPPORT THE STUDENTS.

WE ARE.

SO I, I WANNA JUST KIND OF GO ON THE RECORD AS SAYING THAT I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, UM, WE STILL DON'T HAVE A BUDGET COMING OUT OF RICHMOND YET.

SO WE WRITE LIKE IT'S NOT SIGNED, SEALED, AND DELIVERED IN TERMS OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE THINGS LIKE MANDATES AND CHANGES TO

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SOQ AND OTHER FUNDING CHANGE.

SURE.

IMPACTS MAY UPSET THE APPLE CARD, IF YOU WILL.

SO JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KEEP THAT IN THE BACK OF THEIR MINDS.

UM, THE, THE OTHER THING I WANNA CALL OUT, I LIKE THE, UM, CREATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING THANK YOU OF THE ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL.

UM, WHO ELSE IS IN A POSITION THAT WHEN WE TAKE A CRITICAL LOOK AT IT MAY NOT BE OPTIMIZED WHEN WE THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE FUNCTIONS MM-HMM .

AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE AS A SCHOOL DIVISION.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN THIS MOMENT, BUT I WOULD CHALLENGE US TO GO WHERE ELSE? AND THAT'S, BY THE WAY, NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF ELIMINATING JOBS.

THAT'S IN THE SPIRIT OF BECOMING INCREDIBLY EFFICIENT.

UM, AND TO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GOING AS FAR AS POSSIBLE WITH THE LIMITED RESOURCES AND SEEMINGLY INCREASINGLY, UH, LIMITED RESOURCES AT OUR DISPOSAL.

UM, THE ONE THING I WANT TO GO BACK TO, UM, I THINK, I THINK IT WAS MS. WORSE, UM, OR MAY HAVE BEEN MS UH, MOSES WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, THE TEACHER INCREASES.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO REMEMBER, YES, WE HAD WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET THE MARKET ADJUSTMENT.

UM, WE ALSO HAD CHANGES TO THE PAY SCALES THEMSELVES IN RIGHT.

SO IT, IT REALLY GOT US TO A COMPETITIVE MARKET POSITION.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO DON'T WANNA FORGET ABOUT THAT.

NOT ONLY FOR OUR TEACHERS, BUT FOR MANY OTHER, UH, POSITIONS ACROSS THE SCHOOL DIVISION AS WELL.

WE MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO REFLECT INFLATIONARY PRESSURES.

AND COST OF LIVING.

UM, AND SO MOST POSITIONS WILL BENEFIT FROM A YEAR OVER YEAR PAY STEP INCREASE.

AND THAT AMOUNT VARIES BY POSITION, VARIES BY TENURE, SO FORTH AND SO ON.

A NUMBER OF OTHER FACTORS, UM, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS 'CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING FOR THE BENEFIT.

NO, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

UM, YOU ARE WELL INFORMED, UM, AS I LOOK AT 3% AT A COST OF $885,000 MM-HMM .

IF I GO AND I PULL BACK FROM THAT AND I GO, THIS IS JUST FOR CONVERSATION 2%, THAT'S AT A COST OF $590,000.

AND SO NOW WE START TO FEEL LIKE, IS IT WITHIN OUR REACH WHEN MAKING THE ASK TO THE SUPERVISORS? SO THERE SEEMS TO BE IN SCENARIO TWO, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVED SUNDAY NIGHT, THERE SEEMS TO BE A COMMITMENT FOR THE 3%.

I DON'T THINK THAT THE 3% IS A TALL ASK AT THIS POINT.

THERE SEEMS TO BE A COMMITMENT FOR THAT INVESTMENT.

I THINK THAT IT'S GONNA PARALLEL THE SAME COST OF LIVING INVESTMENT THAT THEY EXTEND TO COUNTY EMPLOYEES.

THAT IS ENCOURAGING.

THANK YOU FOR EMPHASIZING THAT.

BUT IT, THAT'S MY ASSESSMENT.

IT'S NOT MY PLACE TO SPEAK ON ANY AUTHORITY OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THEIR BUDGET UNLESS IT'S PERTINENT TO THE SCHOOLS.

THAT IS ENCOURAGING.

UM, WELL LEAVES THE CRACK IN THE DOOR.

UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.

OH, I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE, UM, OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, IT WAS GONNA BE A SUGGESTION MADE BY ME TONIGHT THAT WE PULL THOSE MAINTENANCE VEHICLES OUT OF THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.

SO I WANNA RECOGNIZE THE FOLKS THAT ARE RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE ROADS FOR GOING THE EXTRA MILE, UM, AND APPRECIATE, UM, THEIR UNDERSTANDING AS WE DEAL WITH CHALLENGING CIRCUMSTANCES.

I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR ADDING THE AG TEACHER.

I KNOW THAT I CAME ACROSS PRETTY STRONG, BUT I DO APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT ONE COMMENT AT THE END OF OUR MEETING LAST WEEK WITH MY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SAID, WHAT ABOUT TWO INTERVENTIONISTS AND ONE AG TEACHER? I SAID, I PROMISE I WILL SAY THAT.

SO I HAVE SAID IT .

I I APPRECIATE THAT.

WE, WE'VE GOT A, WE'VE GOT AN INTERESTING SITUATION IN THAT, UH, BIRD IS A TITLE ONE SCHOOL.

ORDER ON PAUSING THE FUNDING FOR VARIOUS FEDERAL PROGRAMS, WHICH I UNDERSTAND INCLUDES THINGS LIKE TITLE ONE ACTION.

AND SO TITLE ONE SCHOOLS, WE CAN'T EVER SUPPLANT WHAT THEY'VE GOT GOING.

WE HAVE TO SUPPLEMENT.

SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS AT RANDOLPH AND OR WELL AND GES, THEN THAT SAME THING HAS TO HAPPEN TO SUPPLEMENT THE RESOURCES.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF A DOVETAIL, BUT WE SAW THE, UM, PRESIDENT ISSUED AN EXECUTIVE

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UM, GO AHEAD.

GREAT.

GLENN YOUNG CAN JUST PUT SOMETHING OUT JUST BEFORE THIS MEETING.

IT HAS A DIRECT BUDGETARY, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IT AS WE PLAN FOR OUR BUDGET NEEDS, AS ARE WE.

UM, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ? UM, MIGHT AS WELL.

I'M SORRY.

SO THIS IS GLENN JENKIN.

HE SAID, I'VE SPOKEN TO SENIOR OFFICIALS AT WHITE HOUSE AND CONFIRMED THE TEMPORARY PAUSE BY OMB DOES NOT IMPACT INDIVIDUAL ASSISTANCE AND WILL NOT INTERRUPT DISASTER RECOVERY EFFORTS, SCHOOL AND CHILDCARE FUNDING, HEALTHCARE FOR SENIORS OR LOW INCOME FAMILIES, FUNDING FOR OUR ROADS, MEALS AND LUNCHES, OR ANY OTHER MISINFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN SPREAD.

UM, SO BASICALLY BOTTOM LINE IS, UM, ALL THAT STUFF IS COVERED.

THANK YOU, MS. MAXWELL.

THAT MATCHES THE INFORMATION THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND VA TODAY.

OH, GOOD.

THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

OH, GOOD.

ONE MORE WORRY ON FIRST.

YEAH, MY WORRY, ONE OF MY WORRIES IS THAT WHEN YOU ADD PEOPLE, THEY NEVER GO AWAY.

YOU KNOW, ONCE THE POSITION'S THERE, IT'S ALWAYS THERE.

SO WE JUST KEEP ADDING ON AND ON AND ON.

AND SOMETIMES IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S JUST SO MUCH SIMPLER TO, OH, LET'S JUST, HI, HIRE SOMEONE ELSE INSTEAD OF HAVING SOMEONE ELSE DO THEIR JOB DIFFERENTLY.

LET'S SAY.

UM, I, I, I JUST, I WORRY ABOUT THAT AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU KEEP, I, I WORRY ABOUT IT, MADAM CHAIR, THE TWO, THE TWO OPTIONS THAT I PRESENTED, NEITHER INCLUDE ADDED PERSONNEL, ONE OR TWO, NEITHER INCLUDE ADDED PERSONNEL.

UM, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE INTERVENTIONIST, THAT WAS THE CONSIDERATION.

THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE TWO OPTIONS THAT I PRESENTED.

I PRESENTED THOSE CONSIDERATIONS IN THE CONTEXT OF NEED AND A SUPERINTENDENT'S DUTY TO CONVEY NEED AND A BUDGET PROCESS.

BUT NEITHER OPTION ONE NOR TWO INCLUDE ADDED POSITIONS.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? OKAY.

THANK YOU ALL.

WELL, IN THAT CASE, THANK YOU DR.

KUMAR.

UM, AND I AM GOING TO ASK IF ANYONE HAS A MOTION TO, UM, ADJOURN.

MADAM CHAIR, I MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I MOVE TO ADJOURN.

I SECOND THAT DIRECTION ON WHICH OPTIONS? OKAY.

IT HAS BEEN, UM, MOVED BY, I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY, MADAM CHAIR.

WE NEED, WE NEED SOME CLEAR DIRECTION ON WHICH OF THE TWO OPTIONS WE TO PURSUE AS WE WORK TO BALANCE A BUDGET SO THAT THE NEXT TIME WE GET TOGETHER WE CAN BE ADVANCED.

WELL THEN IN THAT CASE, UM, I DON'T ACCEPT YOUR MOVES IN SECONDS.

UM, IT'S NOT AN ACTION ITEM, DR.

KAMAR, BUT FROM THIS POSITION, I WOULD SUPPORT SCENARIO TWO.

UH, GIVEN THAT YOUR INDICATIONS FROM YOUR COLLEAGUES AT THE COUNTY, UH, LEAVE US WITH A GLIMMER OF HOPE FOR COST OF LIVING INCREASES AND HOPEFULLY RECOVERY OF SOME OF THE, UH, FUNDING TO MAKE US WHOLE.

AGAIN, I SUPPORT THAT AS WELL.

, NO NO'S NOT SUCCESS, JUST OFFERING US SOME DIRECTION ON HOW TO BEST MOVE FORWARD AS WE CONTINUE TO BUDGET.

I AGREE WITH OPTION TWO, .

UM, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE STRONG FEELINGS EITHER WAY.

IT, IT, I, I I THINK IT ALL DEPENDS ON, ON HOW MUCH THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO GIVE US.

AND, AND AT THAT POINT, WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS.

THE, WHAT'S THE, UM, OKAY.

I, I KNOW THAT NEXT TIME WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A BUDGET WORKSHOP, IT'S SORT OF THE SAME THING.

TAKE TAKING IN THE, THE SCENARIO ONE, SCENARIO TWO.

'CAUSE YOU WON'T HAVE ANY MORE INFORMATION, WILL YOU? UM, I'M LIKELY TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION, BUT WE HOPE TO PLACE AN EMPHASIS ON ONE BUDGET NEXT TIME WE GET TOGETHER THIS WAY.

I'LL GO BACK SO THAT OUR PUBLICS CAN SEE THAT THE NEXT STEPS.

AND THEN TIMETABLE WISE, UM, I, I THINK I ASKED THIS LAST TIME, BUT I'M GONNA WRITE IT DOWN THIS TIME.

I, I ACTUALLY SHOULD HAVE OUTLINED, AND

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I PREMATURELY CLOSE DOWN AND I CAN DO THAT.

HUH? I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT THING.

SO THE, THE NEXT STEPS OF THIS PROCESS WOULD BE A WEEK FROM TONIGHT ON FEBRUARY THE FOURTH, WE HOPE TO PRESENT A DRAFT BALANCE BUDGET AND SEEK THE APPROVAL TO ADVERTISE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

WE GO TO OUR REGULAR MEETING ON FEBRUARY THE 11TH.

PART OF THAT MEETING IS A BUDGET HEARING ON THAT DRAFT OF A BALANCED BUDGET RIGHT BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO ANYONE WISHING TO, AND I CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THIS WITH YOU ALL BY EMAIL AFTER I, SO ANYONE WISHING TO SHARE PUBLIC COMMENT OR INPUT ON THE BUDGET WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.

DURING PUBLIC COMMENT OF THAT MEETING THE FOLLOWING WEEK, ON FEBRUARY THE 18TH, WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION OF THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS RECOMMENDED BUDGET TO INCLUDE THE SCHOOLS THE WEEK THEREAFTER, FEBRUARY 25TH, THE SCHOOL BOARD APPROVAL OF THE 25 26 BUDGET AND SALARY SCALES.

AT THAT POINT, IT CEASES TO BE THE SUPERINTENDENT'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET AND BEGINS TO BE THE SCHOOL BOARD'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET.

AND I CERTAINLY WILL WELCOME ANYBODY WHO'D WANT TO PRESENT IT IN MY STEAD .

BUT, UH, HAVING NO VOLUNTEERS, I CALL YOU HAVING NO VOLUNTEERS.

I WILL CERTAINLY CARRY THAT LOAD.

AND THEN ON MARCH THE FOURTH, WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION OF THE SCHOOL BOARD BUDGET TO THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

AND THAT'S THE ORDER OF OPERATIONS AS WE FORGE AHEAD.

AND THEN AFTER THAT THOUGH, WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT THE STATE IS ALONG THE WAY, STEPHANIE, WE'LL FIND RIGHT.

WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT THAT REVENUE PICTURE LOOKS LIKE.

OH, THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES TO AMEND OUR BUDGET.

UM, WE'RE VERY OPTIMISTIC THAT WE SHOULD SEE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE.

UM, IT WILL GO THROUGH LOTS OF ITERATIONS, BUT WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING, HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF OUR OTHER, YOU KNOW, PRIORITIES.

UM, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A GREAT JOB OF TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, CREATIVELY, YOU KNOW, PROBLEM SOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING.

BUT, UM, YES, WE WILL MOST LIKELY BE IN THE SAME POSITION WE WERE LAST YEAR TO PRESENT AN AMENDED BUDGET TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PROBABLY IN MAY OR JUNE.

ONCE, ONCE THAT BUDGET IS FINALIZED.

UM, USUALLY IN THE APRIL TIMEFRAME.

WE'VE, UM, AND, AND 100% OF WHAT STEPHANIE SHARED IS TRUE BACK WITH EXPERIENCE THAT WE HAD AS RECENT AS LAST FISCAL.

WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS AMONG SENIOR LEADERSHIP ABOUT OPTIMISM.

AND I ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE A DISCERNMENT BETWEEN CAUTION AND PESSIMISM WHEN IT, WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT POTENTIAL INCREASES IN STATE REVENUE AND WE KNOW THE FORMULA ON WHICH STATE REVENUE IS BASED AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US.

CAUTION, JUST BE CAUTIOUS.

I DON'T WANT TO OVERESTIMATE, I THINK THAT'S MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE.

WE'LL BE THRILLED WITH ADDITIONAL DOLLARS AS EVERY LOCALE ACROSS THE COMMONWEALTH WILL BE.

I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KEEP US TETHERED TO REALITY AND IF IT'S BETTER THAN WE ANTICIPATE, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL GRAVY AND WE'LL MAKE SOME POSSIBILITIES.

BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE STAY ROOTED AND THAT'S CAUTION NOT PESSIMISM.

UM, MADAM CHAIR OF A QUESTION.

UM, THIS PRESENTATION THAT YOU'VE GIVEN TO US TONIGHT, YOU SAID THAT YOU EMAIL US.

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THAT WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC.

WE'LL POST IT TOMORROW.

YEAH, WE'LL POST IT.

AND, AND I JUST WANNA GO BACK AND, UH, AT, AT THE BEGINNING YOU TALKED ABOUT THE, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF NEW, NEW RESIDENTS OF GLAND.

AND BASICALLY THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE NEAR AS MUCH PERCENTAGE OF KIDS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT.

UH, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT.

SO, BECAUSE I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE MOVING INTO AVERY POINT, FOR INSTANCE.

QUITE POSSIBLY.

UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH TAXES AND STUFF, I'M JUST WONDERING WHY THERE'S NOT MORE MONEY IN THE MM-HMM .

COUNTY BUDGET FOR THEM TO HELP US OUT WITH, SO.

OH, I, I SAID I DON'T CARE.

THANKS DR.

KAMAR.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO, MA'AM.

THERE IS NOT.

UM, I WILL NOW RE ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION.

UH, NOT YET.

'CAUSE YOU AND MS. ROBINSON NEED TO GIVE DR.

KAMAR SOME DIRECTION ON SCENARIO ONE OR TWO OR,

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WELL, IT WASN'T A VOTE, BUT, OKAY.

YEAH, I, I, I, ASSUMING THE DIRECTION THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM THREE BOARD MEMBERS, I THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA WORK TO BRING A DRAFT BALANCE, BUDGET EXERCISE IN OPTION TWO, AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO DOING THAT NEXT WEEK.