* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:13] ALL RIGHT, EVERYBODY, I'D LIKE TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. [I. 3:30 PM - Call to Order] UM, PRESENTING THE INVOCATION IS PASTOR UH, JOE BROWN FROM GLIN PRESBYTERIAN. EVERYBODY, PLEASE RISE. [II. Invocation: Pastor Joe Brown, Goochland Presbyterian Church] THANK YOU. LET'S PRAY. HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GATHER TODAY MINDFUL OF OUR TRUST IN YOU. OUR HOPE FOR A JUST AND PEACEFUL COMMUNITY RESTING IN YOUR HANDS. WE GIVE THANK YOU FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS THAT ALLOWS US TO COME TOGETHER FOR THE LEADERS WHO'VE DEDICATED THEMSELVES TO THE SERVICE OF GLAND COUNTY. AS THIS BODY OF SUPERVISORS CONVENES, WE ASK THAT YOU GUIDE THEIR TIME. GRANT THEM A SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION, A COMMITMENT TO CIVIL DISCOURSE, WISDOM TO DISCERN THE BEST PATH FORWARD FOR OUR COMMUNITY. MAY THEIR DECISIONS BE ROOTED IN INTEGRITY, FAIRNESS, AND A DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEEDS OF EVERY RESIDENT. WE PRAY, ESPECIALLY FOR CLARITY AND FORESIGHT AS THEY CONSIDER MANY ISSUES. WE LIFT UP ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING FROM THE COUNTY STAFF TO EVERY CITIZEN WHO'S COME TO VOICE THEIR CONCERNS. MAY EVERY INTERACTION BE MARKED BY MUTUAL RESPECT, AND MAY A SPIRIT OF UNITY PREVAIL WHERE DIFFERENCES OF OPINION ARE. AND LORD, OUR HEARTS ARE HEAVY WITH THE NEWS OF THE UNEXPECTED PASSING OF TIA. WE ASK FOR YOUR PROFOUND COMFORT AND PEACE FOR CAPTAIN JASON BEARER AND HIS FAMILY AS THEY GRIEVE. WE HOLD UP THE ENTIRE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IN OUR PRAYERS, ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND STRENGTH, JESUS FOR THEM, AS THEY MOURN THE LOSS WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY. SO WE OFFER THIS PRAYER IN THE NAME OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, WHO TAUGHT US TO SEEK JUSTICE AND TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS. AMEN. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AND JOIN THE PLEDGE [III. Pledge of Allegiance: Vice-Chair Jonathan Christy] TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALL [IV. Chair's Comments] RIGHT, SO GOT JUST A FEW COMMENTS. UH, AS THE INTERIM CHAIR, UH, CHAIRMAN WINFREY IS UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY'S MEETING UNEXPECTEDLY, UH, FOR A PRIVATE MATTER. UM, ALSO LIKE TO ECHO WHAT, WHAT THE PASTOR SAID ABOUT THE, UH, SHERIFF'S OFFICE. UH, PRETTY, PRETTY BIG LOSS. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHRISTIE. UH, A COUPLE COMMENTS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC THIS AFTERNOON. UH, [V. County Administrator's Comments] THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT EVENT PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR THIS EVENING IS BEING POSTPONED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE AND CERTAINLY WILL NOTIFY OUR COMMUNITY WHEN THAT IS SCHEDULED INTO THE FUTURE, UH, IN OUR COMMUNITIES. CERTAINLY IN THE WORK THAT WE DO AS COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, PUBLIC INPUT AND PUBLIC FEEDBACK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE WORK THAT WE DO. 'CAUSE ULTIMATELY, WE SERVE THE PUBLIC HEARING HERE IN GOLAND COUNTY. AND, UH, RECENTLY THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT. AND WE SAT IN THIS ROOM EARLY IN JULY AND HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING AND GATHERED SOME GREAT FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY DURING THAT PROCESS AND CONTINUE TO DO SO. AND ULTIMATELY, WE VALUE THE INPUT OF OUR COMMUNITY AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE ONGOING INPUT AND PERSPECTIVE. SO, AS A RESULT UPON THE RECOMMENDATION OF OUR STAFF, WE'LL BE DEFERRING THIS TOPIC FROM THE AUGUST PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO THE SEPTEMBER PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. THE WORK WILL CONTINUE. THERE WILL BE A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. WE'RE SCHEDULING THAT AT THIS POINT IN TIME FOR SEPTEMBER. UH, WE WILL ALSO HAVE ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE SCHEDULING THAT TENTATIVELY AT THE END OF AUGUST OR IN EARLY SEPTEMBER. AND SO, ALTHOUGH THAT DATE'S NOT ESTABLISHED, WE'LL BE SURE TO ADVERTISE THAT WELL IN ADVANCE OF THAT COMMUNITY MEETING. AND WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING THAT THROUGH A VARIETY OF WAYS WITH MAILINGS THROUGH THE US MAIL, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, WEBSITE, EMAIL DISTRIBUTION THAT WE DO THROUGH ALL OF OUR PUBLIC NOTICES AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY HAS ACCESS TO THAT. UH, WE'LL ALSO POST SIGNS AS WE TYPICALLY DO. AND, UH, SO PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S TAKING PLACE LATER ON IN OCTOBER, EARLY SEPTEMBER FOR THE NEXT ITERATION OF THAT WORK THAT WE WILL DO TOGETHER. THERE'S STILL TIME TO SIGN UP AND BE A PART OF THE GLAND LEADERSHIP ENTERPRISE. UH, IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN INTERESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THE MULTITUDE OF ISSUES IMPACTING US AS RESIDENTS, I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK IT OUT. [00:05:01] UH, SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THIS ROOM HAVE BEEN A MEMBER AND PARTICIPATED IN GLAND LEADERSHIP ENTERPRISE. THOSE MEETINGS ARE SCHEDULED ON WEDNESDAY EVENINGS AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN MORE ABOUT YOUR NEIGHBORS, THE WORK THAT HAPPENS IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT, AND THINGS THAT ARE TAKING HERE, TAKING PLACE HERE IN OUR OWN BACKYARD. UH, THERE'S EVEN A VISIT TO THE STATE CAPITOL DURING THE LEGISLATIVE SEASON. SEASON. TOPICS INCLUDE AGRICULTURE AND NATURAL RESOURCES, COUNTY ADMINISTRATION, CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, EDUCATION, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, FIRE RESCUE, BUDGET, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, COMMUNITY, HUMAN SERVICES. AND YOU EVEN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE DINNER WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CATERED BY OUR OWN STUDENTS IN GOOCHLAND COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, CHECK OUT THE WEBSITE, DO A GOOGLE SEARCH, AND YOU CAN ALSO CALL US IF YOU'RE INTERESTED TO GET MORE INFORMATION. UH, AS I SHARED LAST TIME THAT I PROVIDED COMMENTS, UH, LEARNING FROM OUR COMMUNITY AND HEARING FROM YOU ABOUT HOW WE ARE SERVING YOU IS ULTIMATELY EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US. AND SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE RECENTLY IS REVISED OUR WEBSITE. AND MS. BISQUES IS GONNA PULL UP OUR WEBSITE. AND SO WE HAVE ADDED A FEATURE TO OUR WEBSITE THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY EMBEDDED DEEP WITHIN OUR WEBSITE. AND SO IF YOU WANTED TO CONTACT US AND LET US KNOW HOW WE WERE DOING, IT WAS REALLY HARD TO DO THAT. AND SO WE'VE ADDED A FEATURE ON OUR WEBSITE. AND LISA, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SCROLLING DOWN TO WHERE, RIGHT THERE, TELL US HOW WE'RE DOING. AND SO ANYTIME YOU HAVE AN EXPERIENCE WITH, UH, GLAND COUNTY, WE WOULD LOVE TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOW WE'RE DOING SO THAT ULTIMATELY WE CAN BETTER SERVE YOU IN THE FUTURE IF YOU HAVE A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE, A NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE, OR IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A SHOUT OUT TO ANY MEMBER OF OUR TEAM AND LETTING US KNOW THE GOOD WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, AND ULTIMATELY OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO GROW AND GET BETTER. CHECK THIS OUT, PROVIDE US WITH A LITTLE BIT OF FEEDBACK, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE CAN USE THAT SO THAT WE CAN GROW AND GET BETTER. SO THAT'S A FEATURE ON OUR WEBSITE THAT WE'VE HIGHLIGHTED AND PUT TO THE FRONT SO THAT WE HAVE GREATER ACCESS TO OUR COMMUNITY AND ALWAYS WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK ALONG THE WAY. UH, NEXT TOPIC I WANTED TO SHARE IS RELATED TO STATION SEVEN, FIRE STATION SEVEN, WHICH HAS BEEN A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR QUITE SOME TIME. AND THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY DATING BACK TO, UH, TO THIS TOPIC WITH A NEED FOR A FIRE RESCUE STATION ON THE EASTERN PART OF OUR COMMUNITY, DATING BACK TO AT LEAST 2012, UH, AFTER 2012. THE TOPIC WAS DISCUSSED AT GREAT LENGTH IN 2017 WHEN SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS WERE HELD ABOUT POSSIBLE LOCATIONS FOR THE FUTURE WEST CREEK FIRE STATION. AND MORE RECENTLY, IN DECEMBER OF 2022, FIVE ACRES OF LAND NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF TUCKAHOE CREEK PARKWAY AND HOCKETT ROAD WAS DONATED TO THE COUNTY BY WEST CREEK ASSOCIATES FOR A FIRE STATION. AND THEN FOLLOWING A PROCESS THAT INCLUDED COMMUNITY INPUT AND PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON APRIL 18TH, 2023, APPROVED THE REZONING OF THIS FIVE ACRE PARCEL FOR THE PROPOSED FIRE STATION ON APRIL 2ND, 2024. THE PREVIOUS COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, VIC CARPENTER, ANNOUNCED DURING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING THAT LOCATING A FIRE STATIONS STATION SEVEN ON THE FIVE ACRE PROPERTY OWNED BY THE COUNTY ON HOCKETT ROAD, WOULD BE PAUSED IN ORDER TO TAKE A WIDER AND MORE COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT OTHER POTENTIAL LOCATIONS. SINCE THAT TIME, STAFF HAVE REVIEWED ALTERNATIVE SITES FOR STATION SEVEN, INCLUDING PROPERTY ALONG TUCKER HOOK CREEK PARKWAY, CARMAX, CAPITAL ONE IN THE FORMER HCA PROPERTY, AND THE COUNTY ALSO MADE AN UNSUCCESSFUL BID TO TRY TO PURCHASE THAT PROPERTY. STAFF HAVE ALSO EXPLORED THE POSSIBILITY OF LOCATING STATION SEVEN ON LAND CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE COUNTY ON HT ROAD. AND THIS ANALYSIS INCLUDED A REVIEW OF THE POTENTIAL IMPACT FOR FUTURE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON THAT PROPERTY. STAFF HAVE CONDUCTED A THOROUGH REVIEW, REVIEW OF OTHER LOCATIONS FOR STATION SEVEN AS WELL. THE COUNTY COMPLETED ITS SOUTHEASTERN INFRASTRUCTURE STUDY MEETINGS HAVE BEEN HELD WITH NEIGHBORS IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY SINCE THAT TIME TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT AND THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE, THE LOCATION. OUR STAFF AND OUR CONSULTANTS LOOKED AT ALTERNATIVE EXITS FROM THE FIVE ACRE PROPERTY IN LIEU OF AN EXIT ON THE HOCKET ROAD. UH, HOWEVER, COSTS AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, UH, MAKE THAT A A CHALLENGING ASPECT FOR US. STAFF EXAM, POTENTIAL BUFFERS THAT COULD BE INSTALLED ACROSS FROM THE CURRENT FIVE ACRE PARCEL IN COLLABORATION WITH CONSULTANTS, STAFF HAVE CONDUCTED A TEST FIT ON THE FIVE ACRE LAND. STAFF HAVE EXPLORED PAST WORK AND CURRENT WORK BEING DONE BY VDOT IN RELATION TO SPEED AND SAFETY FOR H ROAD, AS WELL AS THE LARGER REGIONAL ROAD NETWORK. WE'VE CONSULTED WITH VDOT REGARDING SIGNAL SIGNALIZATION OPTIONS FOR THE SITE. AND OUR FIRE RESCUE TEAM HAS EXPLORED OPTIONS REGARDING CHANGING HOW TO USE LIGHTS AND SIRENS WHEN ENTERING, EXITING THE PROPOSED LOCATION. THE CURRENT FIVE ACRE SITE ALLOWS FOR THE BEST NORTH, SOUTH, AND EAST WEST ROADWAY ACCESS, AND IS POSITIONED WELL TO SUPPORT AN INCREASING NUMBER OF FIRE AND EMS CALLS IN THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK, AND DESIGNATED ECONOMIC GROWTH AREAS ALONG BRAD STREET AND PATTERSON AVENUE. GIVEN THIS THOROUGH ANALYSIS AND DUE DILIGENCE [00:10:01] SINCE APRIL, 2024, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC TODAY THAT THE WORK ON STATION SEVEN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PAUSED IS NOW BEING UNPAUSED. WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FUTURE PLANS TO BUILD STATION SEVEN ON THE FIVE ACRE PARCEL OWNED BY THE COUNTY ON HAWKET ROAD NEAR THE INTERSECTION WITH TUCKAHOE CREEK PARKWAY. WE ARE COMMITTED WORK TO WORKING WITH ALL STAKEHOLDERS AND OUR NEIGHBORS ON THIS PROJECT LIKE WE DO ON ALL OF OUR PROJECTS TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED. THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS FOR TODAY, MR. CHRISTIE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DR. RALEY. UH, MR. SPOON, HOWER, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? YES. THANK YOU. UH, MR. CHRISTIE FOR, UH, POINT OF PERSONAL PURPOSE. I JUST WANTED TO GIVE, MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE USED THE WEBSITE THAT, UH, WE JUST LAUNCHED. UH, DR I WANTED TO JUST GIVE A SHOUT OUT, UM, TO SOME UNSUNG HEROES. IF YOU EVER LOOKED AT OUR FACILITIES AND OUR GROUNDS, THEY'RE IMMACULATE. UM, LAST MONTH, IF YOU RECALL, THE BOARD APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF THE PROPERTY, THE DILAPIDATED PROPERTY WITH TREES GROWING THROUGH IT ON WHITEHALL ROAD AND SANDY HOOK ROAD. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UM, WE'VE OWNED THAT PROPERTY ABOUT SEVEN DAYS AND IT LOOKS BETTER THAN IT HAS IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS. SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR GROUNDS AND, AND, UH, CREWS THAT, UH, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THAT AND JUST THINK THAT'S GONNA BE A GREAT ASSET FOR THE COMMUNITY AND JUST WANTED TO THANK THEM. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. DO ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY COMMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO ADD? ALRIGHT, NEXT. [VI. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the Order of Presentation] ALRIGHT. UH, SO HAVE A REQUEST TO POSTPONE AGENDA ITEMS, OR DO WE, DO WE HAVE ANY REQUEST TO ADJUST THE AGENDA IN ANY WAY WITH DELETION, DELETIONS, ADDITIONS, OR CHANGES? ALL RIGHT. UM, DO WE GO INTO A MOTION FOR THAT? NO. ALL RIGHT. UH, NOW WE GO TO CITIZEN COMMENT. WHERE ARE THE RULES FOR THOSE? OKAY. [VII. Citizen Comment] UH, DO I OPEN IT FIRST AND THEN, OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO LET ME GO OVER THE RULES. SORRY, BEAR WITH ME. THIS IS MY FIRST TIME CHAIR. UH, THE BOARD IS OFFERING CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD, NOT INTENDED TO LAST MORE THAN ONE HOUR. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD ABOUT ANY ISSUES INVOLVING THE COUNTY THAT IS NOT ON THE MEETING. AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU HAVE A COMMENT ABOUT AN ISSUE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING, YOU NEED TO SPEAK WHEN THAT MATTER IS CALLED. EACH PERSON MAY SPEAK ONCE UP TO THREE MINUTES. UH, SO WHEN YOU HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT, YOUR THREE MINUTE NO WAIT, UH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. WHEN YOU HAVE THE GREEN LIGHT, YOUR THREE MINUTES STARTS. ABOUT THREE MINUTES START. OKAY. UH, YOUR FIRST YELLOW LIGHT, UH, ONE MINUTE LEFT TO SPEAK. UH, SECOND YELLOW LIGHT CONTINUOUSLY BLINKS IS 30 SECONDS LEFT TO SPEAK RED LIGHT, YOUR TIME IS UP. IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES, YOU MAY EXTEND YOUR TIME BY HAVING OTHER RESIDENTS COME UP, GIVE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS C THEIR TIME TO YOU. UH, YOUR TIME IS INCREASED BY TWO MINUTES FOR EACH PERSON WHO DOES. SO, UP TO 10 MINUTES IN TOTAL, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM, PROVIDE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS BEFORE STATING YOUR COMMENTS. UM, ATTENDEES, THE FRONT ROW SEATS ARE RESERVED FOR PEOPLE WAITING TO SPEAK FOR THE CURRENT PUBLIC HEARING. BE RESPECTFUL. PLEASE DO NOT YELL OUT, APPLAUD OR OTHERWISE INTERRUPT THE SPEAKER OR BOARD MEMBERS. PLEASE DO NOT GATHER IN THE HALLWAY OUTSIDE THE MEETING ROOM BECAUSE YOU CAN BE HEARD INSIDE THE PUBLIC MEETING ROOM. UH, YOU MAY WATCH THE LIVE STREAM OF THE MEETING ACROSS THE HALL AND ROOM TWO 70, AND THEN COME INTO THE PUBLIC MEETING ROOM WHEN THERE IS SUCH SPACE FOR YOU TO SIT DOWN TO THE FRONT TROOP TRAILERS. IS THIS NECESSARY TO READ? ALRIGHT. I DIDN'T THINK SO. PRETTY GOOD? YEAH. ALL RIGHT. SO OPENING THE PUBLIC MEETING, LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD. MY MOTHER USED TO SAY, NEVER MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK SOMEBODY FOR ALL THEY DO FOR YOU. THIS MONTH HAS BEEN A MONTH, UM, AND I AM GRATEFUL TO THE STAFF AND DR. RAYLEY FOR MEETING WITH US. [00:15:01] AND YOU JUST GAVE ME THE BIGGEST CHRISTMAS GIFT, WHETHER YOU KNOW IT OR NOT, OF OUR FIRE STATION BACK BECAUSE, UM, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS FELT WE NEEDED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND THIS HAS BEEN A, A GREAT, UM, EVERYBODY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE DELIGHTED WHEN THEY HEAR THAT AND THAT WE ARE MOVING FORWARD. UH, AND I THANK EVERYBODY ON THE STAFF WHO MET WITH US, UM, JUST YESTERDAY, UM, TO, TO HEAR FROM US. UM, WE WILL TRY TO BE RESPECTFUL. UM, AND, UM, THANK YOU AGAIN. HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY. THANK YOU, MS. MOORE. GOOD AFTERNOON, DR. LEY AND BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS BRANDY SIMS. I LIVE IN DISTRICT FOUR. UM, ON BEHALF OF GYA AND THE ENTIRE GLAND YOUTH SOFTBALL COMMUNITY, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE AND SINCERELY THANK SOME INCREDIBLE DEPARTMENTS, UM, THAT HELPED US MAKE OUR DISTRICT FIVE DARLINGS AND PONYTAILS DIVISION ALL STAR TOURNAMENT POSSIBLE, NOT ONLY POSSIBLE, BUT EXCEPTIONAL. UM, THIS TOURNAMENT WAS BROUGHT, UH, BROUGHT TOGETHER YOUNG ATHLETES, FAMILIES, FANS FROM ACROSS THE REGION TO GLAND COUNTY. AND WHILE THEY CAME FOR THE COMPETITION, THEY LEFT WITH SUCH AN EXPERIENCE. UM, THANKS IN LARGE PART TO THE DEDICATION AND PROFESSIONALISM AND TEAMWORK OF OUR OWN COMMUNITY STAFF, OR COUNTY STAFF, UM, TO OUR PARKS AND REC GROUNDS CREW. YOUR EFFORTS DID NOT GO UNNOTICED. YOU'VE BEEN IN OVERDRIVE NOT ONLY DURING THE TOURNAMENT WEEKEND, BUT ALSO THROUGHOUT THE REGULAR SEASON, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN THE WETTEST TO MY RECOGNITION IN YEARS. UM, GAME AFTER GAME, THEIR TEAM ENSURED THE CONDITIONS WERE SAFE, PLAYABLE, AND BEAUTIFUL. AND WITH THAT, THEY NOT ONLY MADE IT HAPPEN WITH LONG HOURS, BUT THEIR ATTENTION TO DETAIL AND DEEP COMMITMENT TO OUR, UH, COMMUNITY'S YOUTH DID NOT GO UNNOTICED TO OUR FIRE. AND EMS, YOUR PRESENCE THROUGHOUT THE TOURNAMENT BROUGHT A PEACE OF MIND TO FAMILIES AND ENSURED THAT OUR PLAYER SAFETY WAS NEVER IN QUESTION. WHETHER IT WAS HANDLING THE HEAT, MINOR INJURIES, OR SIMPLY BEING ON STANDBY, YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, UM, AND CARE WERE APPRECIATED MORE THAN YOU KNOW, TO OUR SHERIFF'S OFFICE. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR VISIBLE SUPPORT AND FOR KEEPING OUR FAMILIES AND GUESTS SAFE AND FOR BEING A WELCOMING PRESENCE THROUGHOUT THE TOURNAMENT. WHETHER PATROLLING THE GROUNDS OR JUST TAKING TIME TO CHAT WITH OUR PLAYERS AND PARENTS, YOU SHOWED EXACTLY WHAT COMMUNITY POLICING LOOKS LIKE. THE COLLABORATION BETWEEN YOUR DEPARTMENTS GAVE OUR YOUNG ATHLETES A CHANCE TO SHINE ON THE FIELD AND REMINDED US ALL WHAT CAN BE ACHIEVED WHEN OUR COUNTY WORKS TOGETHER. YOU TURNED A SIMPLE WEEKEND OF GAMES INTO A SHOWCASE OF WHAT MAKING GLIN A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND RAISE YOUR FAMILY FEELS LIKE. FOR THIS, WE WANT TO HONOR BOTH THE FIRE AND EMS BY MAKING A DONATION TO THE MICHAEL G TINK SIMS MEMORIAL SCHOLARSHIP FUND AND A DONATION TO THE SHERIFF'S FOUNDATION. UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND SUPPORT AND HARD WORK AND, UM, WE REALLY JUST APPRECIATE IT. SO I DO HAVE, UM, A COUPLE OF THINGS. IF WE COULD TAKE JUST A SECOND TO TAKE A PICTURE WITH THEM. IS THAT OKAY? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. THIS IS SPECIAL FOR THE SCHOLARSHIP FUND, UH, THAT KNOW HELPS OUR MEMBERS THERE FOR HIGHER EDUCATION. AND IT'S IN THE NAME OF, UH, SOMEONE VERY SPECIAL FIRE RESCUE. LOST A LIGHT MONITOR. THANK YOU SHERIFF'S OFFICE. TOMMY, WOULD YOU MIND COMING FORWARD FOR A PICTURE? [00:20:05] SHERIFF SAID I DIDN'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. TAKE, TAKE SOME MONEY. CERTAINLY ON BEHALF OF THE CHRISTIAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS FOR CITIZEN COMMENT? SEEING NONE, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE SESSION. ALRIGHT. [VIII. Approval of Action Minutes] SO DO I ASK FOR AN APPROVAL? YEAH. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JULY 1ST, 2025 MEETING. UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION, [1. Minutes of Jul 1, 2025 3:00 PM] MR. CHAIRMAN? I, I MOVE THAT THE MINUTES FROM THE MEETING ARE APPROVED AS PRESENTED. SECOND. SECOND. ALRIGHT. IS IT A ROLL CALL VOTE OR WE DON'T DO VOICE VOTE? FINE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S DO A VOICE VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT PASSES ALL. SO REPORTS, UH, VDOT PHILIP FRAZIER. [IX. Reports] [1. VDOT - July 2025] GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DR. LEY, UH, PHILLIP FRASIER WITH VDOT. UM, APPRECIATE YOU LET ME COME AND SPEAK TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON. UH, FIRST I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO MR. LYLE. THANK YOU TO DR. LEY. THANK YOU, MR. SPOON, HOWER, UM, AND THE REST OF YOUR STAFF FOR HOSTING. UH, KIND OF A MEET AND GREET WITH, UH, THE ASHTON RESIDENCY MYSELF, UM, AND SOME OF THE FOLKS FROM OUR DISTRICT OFFICE, UM, BACK IN, IN JULY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A VERY, VERY FRUITFUL CONVERSATION TO KIND OF, UH, REKICK THINGS OFF WITH SOME NEW LEADERS ON, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TABLE FROM G AND WITH VDOT. SO JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THAT. UM, LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH EVERYBODY AND, AND CONTINUING THIS PARTNERSHIP. UM, WITH THAT, I KNOW EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE THE REPORT THAT WE PROVIDED. I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER IT, BUT I CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. WHAT I WILL, I WANT TO ADDRESS REAL QUICK IS A COUPLE ITEMS THAT CAME UP IN THE LAST MEETING. UM, JUST SOME FOLLOW UP. SO, UH, JUST START, UM, MR. SPOON, HOWER, UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED BEN LAMONT. THAT WAS ONE THAT WE DID AS A RURAL RUSTIC FEW YEARS BACK. UM, WE LOOKED INTO IT, WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WAS MAYBE AN EXCAVATOR GOT DROPPED OFF OR A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, UM, WAS TWISTED AND TURNED ON ITS TRACKS, KIND OF AT THE ENTRANCE OF BEN LAMONT, WHICH KIND OF PEELS UP SOME OF THAT SURFACE TREATMENT. UM, SO WE WILL BE REPAIRING THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE DONE WITH OUR, UH, STATE FORCES TO REPAIR THAT. BUT DID YOU, DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO LOOK DOWN FURTHER WHERE THE WASH BOARDING'S ALREADY OCCURRING? SO I, I DID ASK MY STAFF TO LOOK AT THAT. OKAY. I, I WAS TOLD THAT THERE WASN'T REALLY A LOT OF WASH BOARDING. I WILL GO BACK OUT. OKAY. I CAN DO A KIND OF A PUT A SECOND SET OF EYES ON IT. UM, WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER LOOK. BUT, UM, BUT YEAH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY SAW WAS THERE WAS DEFINITELY SOME DAMAGE THERE AT THE ENTRANCE. OKAY. WHERE I THINK, IS IT ROCK CASTLE THAT YES, BEN LAMONT CONNECTS TO IT DOES. UM, SO, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL PUT A SECOND SET OF EYES ON IT. THANK YOU. UM, WITH THAT, UH, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MOWING. UM, SO WE WILL HAVE OUR NEXT, UH, PRIMARY CYCLE MOWING COMING UP, UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF AUGUST. SO AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA BE PRIMARY. SO THAT'S 5 22, THAT'S ROUTE 6, 2 50. UM, SO IF THERE'S ANY, ANY DESIRE FOR, UH, LITTER PICKUP, IF THERE'S ANY FOLKS THAT MAYBE PARTICIPATE IN, UM, UH, I FORGET WHAT THE PROGRAM IS CALLED, IT'S ESCAPING ME. BUT BASICALLY THE LITTER PICKUP PROGRAM. UM, YEAH, ADOPT HIGHWAY. THANK YOU. UH, YOU KNOW, THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS WOULD BE A REALLY, REALLY GOOD TIME TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, LEAN INTO THAT. UM, AND THEN OUR SECONDARY MOWING CYCLE WILL OCCUR, UH, KIND OF LATER INTO SEPTEMBER, UM, OCTOBER. UM, SO A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, MR. LYLE, UH, YOU HAD SOMETHING THAT YOU BROUGHT UP. UH, YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT THE, UM, SIGNAL AT HOCKET ROAD AND, UM, TWO 50, AND WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE KIND OF MODIFIED THE TIMINGS TO ADJUST THE FLASHING YELLOW ARROW. [00:25:01] UM, ACTUALLY ADD A LITTLE BIT OF RED TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLKS CLEAR THE INTERSECTION BEFORE SOMEONE WERE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE A CONFLICTING MOVEMENT. YOU HAD MENTIONED, I THINK, THAT MAYBE YOU WERE IN, UH, AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED, UH, AT 6 23 IN, IN BROAD STREET. YEAH. NO, THERE WAS NO, MAYBE I WAS, YEAH, , I'M JUST, JUST TRYING TO, I DON'T WANT, THANK YOU. UM, SO WHAT, WHAT I ASKED THE TEAM TO DO WAS EVALUATE THAT INTERSECTION. THEY MADE THE SAME MODIFICATION TO THE SIGNAL, WHICH AGAIN, WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY JUST PUT A DELAY ON WHEN THE FLASHING YELLOW ARROW KIND OF TURNS ON. UM, AS THAT, UM, THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE THROUGH LANE ON, ON BROAD STREET GETS THE GREEN. SO, UM, THAT SHOULD HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE ISSUES, UM, FROM HAPPENING IN THE FUTURE. UH, AND THEN I KNOW YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT THE, UM, THE INTERSECTION AT SIX 50 AND 6 23. UH, KIND OF TWO SEPARATE ISSUES, BUT SPECIFICALLY I THINK, UM, THE ONE AT RIVER ROAD AND ROUTE SIX, UM, I MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT LAST TIME, BUT I'LL JUST MENTION IT AGAIN. WE DID DO A REVIEW. WE LOOKED AT THE SIGNAL OPERATE, IF THERE WAS A SIGNAL THAT MIGHT BE WARRANTED. IT WAS NOT. UM, BUT WE DID SUGGEST, UM, A TYPE OF CONFIGURATION CALLED AN RCU, WHICH FORCES FOLKS TO MAKE A RIGHT AS THEY APPROACH THE STOP SIGN, THEY WOULD MAKE A RIGHT GO DOWNSTREAM AND THEN MAKE A U-TURN. UM, TO GO BACK THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, UH, THIS IS A TYPE OF TRAFFIC CONTROL, UM, YOU KNOW, INTERSECTION CONTROL THAT WE USE, UH, SIMILAR TO ROUNDABOUTS, UM, GREEN TEES AND, AND SIGNALS BEING JUST DIFFERENT THAN, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE INTERSECTION CONTROL FROM A SIGNAL. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING WHEN WE SKETCHED IT UP. WE FOUND THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE RIGHT OF WAY IMPACTS. UM, SO THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR US ALL TO DO, UM, TO COME TOGETHER TO SEE IF THAT'S GONNA BE A PRIORITY FOR THE COUNTY, UH, TO MAYBE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THAT TO A POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY CAN CARRY IT ON IN, IN SOME FORM OF APPLICATION. UH, JUST TO BE CLEAR, I, I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ROAD NUMBERS MEMORIZED. YES. I'M SORRY. IS THIS TUCKAHOE PINES? NO, IT IS, IT IS NOT. UM, OKAY. THAT'S ANOTHER ONE. SO RIVER ROAD. YEAH. AND I CAN, I CAN ADDRESS THAT TOO. UM, RIVER ROAD, THE ONE THAT YOU AND I ACTUALLY MET ON SITE BY THE COUNTRY CLUB OF RICHMOND COUNTRY CLUB. YEAH. OKAY. UM, SPAGHETTI JUNCTION. SURE. I THAT THAT'S A, PERHAPS A, A GOOD WAY TO DESCRIBE IT. UM, TUCKAHOE PINES, I KNOW, UH, I RECEIVED SOME COMMUNICATION FROM DR. RAIL, UH, ABOUT THAT. ONE OF THE, IT, IT'S COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MAYBE A POSSIBILITY TO MODIFY THE COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE. TYPICALLY, I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. UM, VDOT DOESN'T REALLY MODIFY COMMERCIAL ENTRANCES. IT'S KIND OF ACTUALLY COVERED IN THE CODE OF VIRGINIA AS TO WHY AND WHAT WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR. ONE THING I WANNA JUST POINT OUT, UH, THAT I FOUND OUT YESTERDAY IS THERE'S, UM, DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING JUST ADJACENT TO THAT SITE. UM, AND WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE DOING IS CONNECTING TO, UH, CREATE AN INTERNAL CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE TWO SITES. SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, IS LOOK INTO HOW, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT ENTRANCE, THAT ORIGINAL COMMERCIAL ENTRANCE MODIFIED AS PART OF THAT, UM, DEVELOPMENT. SO, UH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DONE LOOKING INTO, BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY SOMETHING ON OUR RADAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DID HAVE TO ASK QUESTIONS JUST AS A FOLLOW UP, MR. LYLE. MR. FRAZIER IS, WE HAD A CONVERSATION INTERNALLY ABOUT THAT TODAY, AND WE'RE GOING CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE WITH V AS OUR SHOULDER TO SHOULDER PARTNER TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WORK WITH, UH, THE PRIVATE LANDOWNERS AS NEEDED. OKAY. AND THAT'S, THOSE, THOSE WERE THE ONLY FOLLOW UPS I HAD. SO HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, MR. FRAZIER. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. ALRIGHT, SO NEXT WE HAVE CLIFF HELLER WITH [2. Introduction of New County Staff] INDU IN, UH, INDUCT INTRODUCTION OF NEW COUNTY STAFF. THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN AND, UH, BOARD MEMBERS. UH, WE DO HAVE TWO NEW HIRES WE WANNA INTRODUCE. THIS IS ALWAYS A HAPPY TIME HERE AT GUIN COUNTY. WE'RE GONNA START WITH, UH, YOU ALL SAW HER LAST, UH, BOARD MEETING, BUT, UH, SHE'S OFFICIALLY BEING INTRODUCED TODAY. TIFFANY FOR OUR NEW ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY, AND SHE IS IN THE ROOM RIGHT HERE, SORRY. AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND NEW EMPLOYEE WE'RE EXCITED TO HAVE, AND SHE, THIS IS CHERYL ME, SHE IS CUSTODIAN AND SHE WORKS IN THIS BUILDING. SO BEEN VERY EXCITED TO HAVE [00:30:01] HER ON AS WELL. SO IF THE TWO OF YOU CAN STAND UP AND COME, WELCOME TO THE TEAM. THANK YOU EVERYONE. UP NEXT, WE HAVE OUR FIRE RESCUE REPORT. [3. Fire Rescue Report] DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? CHIEF ED . THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DR. LEY COUNTY STAFF. UM, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST START BY SAYING SOME THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID THAT, UH, OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES GO OUT TO, UH, CAPTAIN JASON BEAR, UM, TIA'S FAMILY IN THE GLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. UH, CERTAINLY A VERY, UH, TRAGIC THING THAT HAPPENED IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT, UH, WE WILL NOT GET OVER ANYTIME SOON, THAT'S FOR SURE. UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST POINT OUT THAT, UM, THE REPORTS IN THE PACKET, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU, THAT YOU MAY HAVE. UM, I WOULD JUST MENTION THAT, UH, WE ARE SEEING, UH, CALLS ARE CONTINUED TO COME IN AND, UH, NUMBERS ARE, ARE CONTINUING TO EXCEED THE LAST TIME WE CHECKED. AND LOOKING AT, UH, YEAR TO DATE NUMBERS, 3020 CALLS, UM, SAME TIME LAST YEAR, 2,821 CALLS FOR FIRE RESCUE, WHICH REPRESENTS A 7% INCREASE IN OUR CALL VOLUME. UM, I ALSO, UH, MR. SPOON HOWER, WE, I WAS SURPRISED, UM, REALIZING THAT JULY WAS A VERY BUSY MONTH FOR, FOR NOT ONLY, UM, YOU KNOW, EVERYDAY CALLS, BUT OUR AMBULANCE TRANSPORT. SO HIGHEST MONTH ON RECORD, UH, POSSIBLY OF AMBULANCE TRANSPORTS. BUT THE SANDY HOOK, UH, AMBULANCE, UH, ANSWERED, UH, 70, 72 CALLS LAST MONTH. AND THAT'S, UH, THE HIGHEST THAT WE'VE SEEN SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN FROM APRIL OF 2023. NOW, NOT ALL OF THOSE CALLS WERE IN SANDY HOOK. I DON'T WANNA ALARM YOU THAT THAT'S AN AREA THAT'S, UH, . YEAH, SOMETHING'S GOING ON. BUT, BUT THOSE, THAT UNIT IS SO WELL POSITIONED THAT IT'S, UH, IT BACKS UP AND SUPPORTS, UM, ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES AND IT'S SHIFTS EAST. UM, QUITE OFTEN WHEN ONE IN, IN THREE GO OUT, MANNEQUIN AND CENTERVILLE GO OUT ON A CALL, UH, USUALLY CROZIER WILL SHIFT DOWN. AND THEN WHEN CROZIER SHIFTS DOWN AND GETS ASSIGNED A CALL, THEN USUALLY SANDY HOOK IS UP NEXT. AND WE, WE HAVE THAT LOGIC BECAUSE, UM, ONE, IT CAN TRAVEL QUICKLY DOWN BROAD STREET, BUT ALSO THERE'S, THERE'S ONLY AN AMBULANCE AND SANDY HOOK PRESENTLY. UH, SO WE KEEP COMPANY FIVE IN THE COURTHOUSE, SO THAT CREW, THAT STAFF HAS ACCESS TO AN AMBULANCE, BUT ALSO THE FIRE APPARATUS. THERE ISN'T ANY HEAVY FIRE APPARATUS IN SANDY HOOK YET, UH, TO HANDLE THE CALLS. SO, UH, WE CERTAINLY HAVE NOTICED, UH, AN INCREASE IN, IN RUN VOLUME. UH, I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT, UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO START, UM, A RECRUIT, UM, SCHOOL TRAINING, ACADEMY FIRE AND MS TRAINING ACADEMY, UH, AUGUST THE, UH, 18TH. WE HAVE, UH, NEW CAREER MEMBERS, UH, COMING IN. AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, A, A GOOD NUMBER OF VOLUNTEER, UH, APPLICANTS COMING IN AS WELL. AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO STARTING A REGIONAL, UH, VOLUNTEER, UH, FIRE ACADEMY. UH, THE MAIN TWO PARTNERS IN THAT REGIONAL ACADEMY AT GLAND AND HANOVER. WE WILL, UH, TAKE THE LEAD, BUT THE RESOURCES WILL BE SHARED EQUALLY AS FAR AS TRAINING CENTERS AND BEING ABLE TO, UM, OPEN THAT UP POSSIBLY TO SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS. UH, JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE, UM, ON THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 11TH, WE WILL HAVE OUR NORMAL, UH, ANNUAL TRADITIONAL, UH, NINE 11 REMEMBERED CEREMONIES, AND THAT'S IN THE PACKET. AND WE WOULD, UM, INVITE, UM, THE PUBLIC AND EVERYONE TO ATTEND BOTH OF THOSE, UM, IN THE MORNING AT 9 45 AT, UH, COMPANY, UH, FIVE. AND THEN THAT'S, THAT SERVICE IS MORE, UH, FIRST RESPONDER CENTRIC. WE READ ALL THE NAMES OF THE FALLEN, UH, FIRE EMS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, MEMBERS ON THAT DAY. AND THEN THE EVENING IS, UM, IS ANOTHER SERVICE AT OUR NINE 11 MEMORIAL AT MANNEQUIN COMPANY ONCE STARTING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK AND THE PARKING LOT. AND THAT SERVICE, UH, CERTAINLY ALSO SUPPORTS THE FIRST RESPONDERS WHO LOST THEIR LIFE IN THE LINE OF DUTY THAT DAY, BUT ALSO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS, UH, AND THE TWIN TOWERS AND, UH, THE BUILDINGS AROUND THAT, THAT, UH, PERISHED THAT DAY. SO WE'D LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE TO, TO COME OUT, UM, AS WELL. ALWAYS, UH, LIKE TO MENTION THAT WE DO HAVE SMOKE ALARMS AVAILABLE. IF THERE'S ANY CITIZENS WHO, UH, NEED A SMOKE ALARM OR NEED SOMEONE TO PUT THE SMOKE ALARM UP OR CHANGE THE BATTERIES, THEN FIRE RESCUE IS, UH, HERE TO DO THAT. AND, UH, WE ACCEPT, UH, APPLICATIONS, UH, [00:35:01] YEAR ROUND FOR VOLUNTEER MEMBERS. AND, UH, AGAIN, I, UH, I WANNA SAY THAT THERE WERE EIGHT VOLUNTEER MEMBERS BROUGHT IN THE LAST, UH, TWO MONTHS. ACTUALLY. THE, OUR REPORT USUALLY IS, UM, A MONTH BACK. IT'S, UH, GONNA BE LIKE A MAY, MAY, JUNE REPORT THIS TIME. AND SO, UH, THAT'S THE GOOD WORK OF OUR RECRUITER AND RE RETENTION OFFICER, UM, IS CHIEF LISA BROWN, UH, IS ALWAYS, UH, PUTTING MORE OUT THERE TO TRY TO ATTRACT. UH, SO WE ARE GROWING, UH, THE NUMBERS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UM, I DON'T KNOW, CHIEF, IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE, WE HIT A, WE LITERALLY HIT A PRETTY BIG MILESTONE AT STATION EIGHT. OH, YES. UM, THAT MAYBE I MAY HAVE CALLED A COUPLE PASTORS AND ASKED THEIR CONGREGATIONS TO PRAY DURING ALL THAT. SO YOU MAY WANNA YEAH, I WILL EXPAND ON THAT. UM, SO WE, UM, SO ONE OF THE BIG, UH, BIG THINGS OF THAT PROJECT IS, UH, HAVING ENOUGH WATER TO HAVE A FIRE STATION THERE. AND CERTAINLY THERE IS NO COUNTY, UH, WATER, UH, NEAR THAT LOCATION. SO WE'RE RELYING ON A, A GOOD, WELL, JUST LIKE COMPANY SIX IS, COMPANY SIX HAS A VERY ELABORATE, UH, SEPTIC SYSTEM AND A WELL THAT, UH, SUPPORTS. AND WE, UH, WE RAN INTO SOME ISSUES. UH, THE FIRST TIME WE DRILLED, UH, WE DIDN'T GET THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE NEEDED, AND SO WE HAD TO DRILL A SECOND WELL ON THE PROPERTY, UH, A LITTLE DIFFERENT LOCATION FROM THE FIRST. AND WE DID, UH, RECEIVE, UH, ENOUGH WATER TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. UH, CERTAINLY, UM, THE PROJECT WILL PROBABLY, UH, HAVE A LARGER WATER STORAGE CAPACITY, THEREFORE, FOR THE FIRE STATION FACILITY. AND, UH, BETWEEN THOSE TWO WELLS, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, SUPPLY THE, THE WATER FOR THE FIRE STATION. AND SO, TECHNICALLY, UM, WE'VE BROKEN GROUND THAT IN A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS RECENTLY, UH, THE DRIVEWAY AND DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT, UH, THAT WAS, UH, 800 PLUS FEET BROKEN GROUND, UH, THE LAST WELL, UH, TO GET THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT WE NEEDED, AND WE EVEN FRACKED THAT WELL TO GET MORE WATER OUT OF IT. UH, SO, UH, THAT WAS A BIG, UH, A BIG, UH, THING THAT WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT KEEPS THAT PROJECT, UH, MOVING FORWARD. WELL, PROBABLY MORE VALUABLE THAN STRIKING GOLD IN THIS CASE, THE STRAIGHTEN PROPERTY. ABSOLUTELY. YES. I, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU AND THE WHOLE TIME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT AND, UH, KIND OF UNNERVING, NOT KNOWING, UH, WE WE'RE GRATEFUL TO KNOW THAT THE COUNTY PURCHASED THE CORNER PIECE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WAS LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKE THAT COULD BE THE, THE PROPERTY WE WOULD HAVE TO SHIFT OVER TO, TO LOOK FOR WATER. BUT, UH, CERTAINLY AS WAS SAID, UH, YOU SAID IN DDOT OR WE SAID IN YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS AFTER DR. LEY, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT CERTAINLY, UM, GIVES US A NICE, UH, SET OF PROPERTY THERE ALL COMBINED FOR THE FIRE STATION AND MAYBE SOME OTHER THINGS IN THE FUTURE THE COUNTY NEEDS. SO, YEAH. YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, AS A FOLLOW UP TO THOSE COMMENTS, MR. SPOONER'S EARLIER COMMENTS, THE PUBLIC WILL START TO SEE SOME ACTIVITY ON THAT CORNER AS WE'RE GOING TO BE MOBILIZING SOME EQUIPMENT LATER ON THIS WEEK TO DEMOLITION THAT, UH, DETERIORATED BUILDING THAT'S ON THE SITE. SO, UH, JUST IF YOU SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING, THAT'S WHAT'S TAKING PLACE. WE'RE CONTINUING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT PROJECT. OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, A A COUPLE OF THINGS. YES, SIR. UM, IN YOUR REPORT, I NOTICE IT'S A PACKET, PAGE 38, AND IT SAYS THAT WE HAD ONE CALL FOR A DEFECTIVE ELEVATOR WITH NO OCCUPANTS, , I, I, I'M NOT THROWING SHADE HERE, BUT WHY ARE WE IN THE ELEVATOR REPAIR BUSINESS? WELL, UM, AND, AND THIS IS, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. UM, THE REPORT WE RUN EVERY OTHER MONTH ARE, UH, DATA ELEMENTS ARE STATISTICS FOR FIRE, AND EMS RESPONSE IS, IS PREDICATED ON A, A NATIONAL REPORTING, UH, DATABASE, UH, NATIONAL FIRE INCIDENT, UH, NATIONAL FIRE REPORTING SYSTEM IS WHAT ALL THAT COMES IN. SO THESE CATEGORIES AND THE TITLES OF THE CATEGORIES, UH, WE CHOOSE FROM WHEN WE RESPOND TO A CALL. SO WE ALWAYS CHOOSE THE CATEGORY THAT BEST FITS THE SITUATION THAT, UH, WE RESPOND FOR. UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UM, IT IS, UH, VERY NORMAL FOR FIRE RESCUE, UH, DEPARTMENTS TO RESPOND TO ELEVATOR INCIDENTS, PARTICULARLY WHEN THERE'S A PERSON, UH, TRAPPED IN THE ELEVATOR. AND WE ARE SEEING, UH, MORE OF THAT TYPE OF CALL. PARTICULARLY RECENTLY, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS IN THE COUNTY THAT ARE HAVING SOME, UH, ELEVATOR ISSUES, UH, REOCCURRING ELEVATOR ISSUES. AND, UH, WE WERE AT ONE ESTABLISHMENT, UM, LAST WEEK, AND WE HAD, UH, JUST THE WAY IT HAPPENED, WE HAD TWO ELEVATOR INCIDENTS IN TWO SEPARATE BUILDINGS WITH PEOPLE TRAPPED IN BOTH ELEVATORS, UH, SO FAR TO DATE AND HOPE IT STAYS THAT WAY. UH, NO ONE HAS BEEN IN ANY DISTRESS, AND IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF, UH, INCONVENIENCE TO BE ABLE TO GET THEM OUT SAFELY. UH, SO POSSIBLY, UH, THAT, THAT ONE RESPONSE, UH, COULD HAVE RESULTED IN WHERE THE ALARM WAS SOUNDED. UH, BUT WE WENT THERE AND HANDLED THE ELEVATOR INCIDENT, BUT FOUND NO ONE IN THE ELEVATOR. SO THERE, THE ELEVATORS ARE ALARMED, THE ELEVATOR SHAFTS [00:40:01] AND BUILDINGS ARE ALARMED WITH, UH, SMOKE ALARMS. AND SO OCCASIONALLY WE DO GET A FALSE ALARM RELATIVE TO, UH, AN ELEVATOR RESPONSE. BUT MOST RECENTLY, AND THE FIRE MARSHAL IS, UM, HELPING WITH THAT AS WELL AS THE BUILDING OFFICIAL TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THE BUILDINGS THAT HAVE THE ELEVATORS, OBVIOUSLY, THAT SOME OF THEM HAVE RESIDENTS THAT, UM, CAN'T TRANSVERSE THOSE FLOORS EASILY WITHOUT THE ELEVATOR. AND WE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, WORKING WITH THOSE BUSINESSES AS WELL AS, UH, THE FIRE MARSHAL TO BUILD AN OFFICIAL TO MAKE SURE THE ELEVATORS ARE FUNCTIONING. UH, BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU. AND, AND THE OTHER IS, IF YOU WILL TELL CHIEF BROWN, UM, FINGERPRINTING, , I, I MEAN, MY APPLICATION IS COMPLETE. I THINK NOBODY'S BLACKBALLED ME. I JUST, NO, SIR. HAVEN'T GOTTEN FINGERPRINTED. I, I WENT DOWN TO NORFOLK TO GET MY GLOBAL ACCESS, WHICH IS THE, THE ICE CARD THAT LETS ME GET BACK INTO THE COUNTRY, EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY NOT WANT ME TO. BUT, UH, SO THE FINGERPRINTING, I, Y'ALL JUST HAVE GOT THIS SECRET LOCATION WITH A HANDSHAKE THAT YOU CAN GET TO FOR FINGERPRINTING. IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE OR SOMEBODY CAN FINGERPRINT ME, OR HAS IT REALLY GOTTA BE THIS? WELL, IT'S, UH, AND, AND MR. LYLE, I WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR JOINING THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT AS A VOLUNTEER. OH, YEAH. I'M TRYING UH, CHIEF GORDON, I THINK, CHALLENGED YOU AND YOU TOOK HIM UP ON IT, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT A WHOLE LOT. UM, BUT I KNOW YOU WERE INTERESTED BEFORE THAT. I, I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UM, THE FINGERPRINTING PROCESS, SO THE BACKGROUND SECURITY, UH, PROCESS IS SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, REQUIRED THAT WAS, THAT WAS ENACTED BY THE VIRGINIA GENERAL ASSEMBLY, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH THROUGH AIR REGULATORY, UH, AGENCY, WHICH IS THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES. AND SO WHAT, UH, WHILE IN GLAND COUNTY, UH, WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE A VERY THOROUGH, UH, BACKGROUND, UH, CHECK, UH, EVEN BEFORE IT WAS REQUIRED, UH, BY THE STATE, UH, THE STATE TOOK ACTION AND DECIDED BASED ON THE HUNDREDS OF EMS AGENCIES ACROSS THE STATE THAT THEY WERE GONNA REQUIRE, UM, A BACKGROUND, UH, CHECK THROUGH, UH, COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS FINGERPRINTING OR LIVE SCAN. AND SO THAT IS VERY, UH, SPECIFICALLY SPELLED OUT IN THE, UH, VIRGINIA OFFICE OF EMS REGULATIONS, CHAPTER 31, UH, AS WELL AS THE, UH, AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE ORDINANCES AND SO FORTH THERE IN, AT THE STATE. BUT WHAT I'LL TELL YOU IS, IS THAT, UM, WHEN THAT FIRST STARTED, UM, THERE, THERE WASN'T FUNDING TO GO ALONG WITH ALL OF THAT AT ONE TIME, UNFUNDED MANDATE PROBABLY RINGS, UH, A BELL MM-HMM . BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, THE OFFICE OF EMS PAYS, PAYS FOR ALL OF THAT. UH, SO WE GO TO A FIELD PRINT OFFICE, UH, TO HAVE THAT DONE. UM, SO I WISH I COULD TELL YOU THAT THERE WAS A WAY TO GET AROUND THAT. I, THERE'S PROBABLY NO OTHER TOPIC THAT I'VE SPENT MORE TIME DISCUSSING, UH, BOTH WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION, BUT ALSO IN THE STATE MEETINGS THAT, THAT WE ATTEND, UH, AND THE STAKEHOLDER GROUPS THAT WE ARE A MEMBER OF BECAUSE, UH, QUITE HONESTLY, SOME, UH, ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE STATE WASN'T US BECAUSE WE WERE USED TO THE PROCESS, UH, SAW THAT AS, UH, SOMEWHAT OF A HINDRANCE IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET NEW MEMBERS IN THE ORGANIZATION. BUT IT IS IN PLACE FOR EVERYONE'S SAFETY. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE, AND CERTAINLY NOT, THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT YOU, BUT JUST A BLANKET STATEMENT, BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT, UH, AND EVERYONE THAT'S ON A FIRE ENGINE, ON AN AMBULANCE, THAT'S TO LIVE IN EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES IS, IS, UH, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO DO SO, UH, SAFELY. AND THE PEOPLE THAT THEY INTERACT WITH ARE SAFE TOO. SO I, I JUST WANT MY ICE FINGERPRINTS TO GET TO YOU, BUT IF I WILL, UH, I'LL HAVE CHIEF BROWN, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND, UH, ALRIGHT. I MEAN, I'M, I'M GONNA DO IT. IT'S JUST TAKING ME LONGER THAN I WANTED. YEAH, I WISH, I WISH IT WAS EASY AS, UH, GETTING THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO DO IT. THERE WAS A TIME IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THAT, THAT WE COULD GO THAT ROUTE, BUT IT'S MORE FORMALIZED NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL JUST END BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR YOUR RES UH, SUPPORT, CONTINUED SUPPORT. IT IS HURRICANE SEASON, UH, THINGS SO FAR SO GOOD. THERE'S A TROPICAL DISTURBANCE OFF THE EAST COAST, BUT, UH, JUST EVERYBODY STAY VIGILANT AND KEEP AN EYE ON THAT, UH, GOING FORWARD. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALRIGHT, UP NEXT WE HAVE THE [4. Board Report - FY2025 Year End Fund Balance Projection and Fund Balance Assignments] BOARD REPORT AND THE, UH, REPORT IS IN YOUR PACKET. UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE AP JULY, OR JUNE, JULY, 2025. REPORT IS IN THE PACKET PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY REPORT IS IN THE PACKET, UH, THE BROADBAND REPORT. YEAH. DO, DO WE HAVE A, DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT? THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. UH, ALWAYS HAPPY TO GIVE YOU A REPORT. THE REPORT IS IN THE BOARD PACKET, BUT WE'LL JUST TOUCH ON A COUPLE THINGS. [7. August 5, 2025 Broadband Report] UM, THERE ACTIVITY CONTINUES ACROSS THE COUNTY FROM THE WEST END TO THE CROZER AREA, AS THEY WERE WORKING ON DIFFERENT PHASES OF EITHER BUILDING THE FIBER, UH, THE LAST MILE FIBER TO WORKING ON CONNECTIONS. UH, WE [00:45:01] DID GET THE NUMBER AND SO WE NOW HAVE ACTIVE CONNECTIONS 1,574. SO WE GAINED 79 CONNECTIONS IN THE MONTH OF JULY. AND TALKING WITH FIREFLY TODAY, THEY WERE SHOWING ME SOME, A NUMBER THAT JUST CAME IN. SO WE HAVE A LOT MORE FOLKS GONNA BE HOOKING UP VERY SOON. THEY'RE CONTINUING TO STAY VERY BUSY TRYING TO WORK TOWARDS THEIR GOAL OF GETTING EVERYBODY CONNECTED BY THE END OF THE YEAR, IF NOT AS CLOSE AS THEY CAN TO GETTING IT ALL. THEY'LL HAVE THE, AT LEAST THE BACKBONE IN AND BE WORKING ON CONTINUING THAT IF THEY HAVE TO GO INTO 2026. BUT WE CONTINUED TO STAY ON THAT. THEY DID SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS TO FOLKS WHO MAY HAVE STARTED THE REGISTRATION PROCESS BUT DIDN'T COMPLETE IT. AND SO THEY STARTED REACHING OUT TO THOSE FOLKS VIA EMAIL AND OTHER COMMUNICATION TO JUST MAKE SURE THOSE FOLKS WERE STILL INTERESTED. SO IF YOU MAY HEAR FROM SOME FOLKS WHO GOT IT OR WHO MAY, WHO MAY HAVE GOTTEN AN EMAIL OR CONTACT FROM FIREFLY, THEY'RE ALL, UM, AND SO THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY CAPTURE FOLKS AS THEY'RE GETTING READY TO START MOVING TOWARDS CONNECTIONS. AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO STILL WORKING ON GETTING PRIVATE EASEMENTS THAT THEY MAY NEED. AND SO THEY'RE ALSO REACHING OUT ON THAT. UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE CONSTITUENTS WHO RUN INTO ISSUES OR ARE ARE NOT GETTING A RESPONSE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DIRECT IT TO DR. RAIL AND HE'LL MAKE SURE IT GETS TO ME AND OR WE'LL GET IT TO THE APPROPRIATE FOLKS WITH FIREFLY TO TRY TO GET ANSWERS. YEAH. BOARD MEMBERS, I DO WANNA PUBLICLY THANK PAUL FOR WORK THAT HE DID ON TWO CONSTITUENT ISSUES HERE WITHIN THE PAST WEEK, AND, UH, REALLY DID A GREAT JOB OF WORKING CLOSELY WITH THOSE HOMEOWNERS AND FOLLOWED UP WITH PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS. AND PAUL, THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE COUNTY FOR YOUR WORK ON THAT. I AM GOING TO MEET WITH FIREFLY'S LEADERSHIP VERY, VERY SOON AND EXPRESS OUR DESIRE TO ACCELERATE THE WORK AND TRY TO SEEK CLOSURE TO THESE PROJECTS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A GOOD URGENCY TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. UH, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I WANNA ITERATE WHAT DR. BAILEY SAID, 'CAUSE I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE AND DR. RAIL, I WENT DIRECTLY TO PAUL, SO I BROKE THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, I GUESS. BUT, UM, VERY MUCH WHEN SOMEONE CALLS, I, I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, AND I SAY, WELL, LET ME CALL MR. DRUM WRIGHT, AND I DO, UM, ONE OTHER QUESTION. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE GRANT MONEY INVOLVED IN ALL OF THIS, AND GRANT MONEY USUALLY HAS STRINGS ATTACHED TO IT. ARE WE DOTTING OUR I'S AND CROSSING OUR T'S AND ARE WE GETTING ALL OF OUR GRANT MONEY PAPERWORK ATTENDED TO PROPERLY SO THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S COPACETIC? I MEAN, WITH, WITH FIREFLY, WELL, JUST ALL OF THEM. I MEAN, ALL OF THE GRANTS THAT WE'VE GOT, WHAT THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT GRANTS UNDERWAY IS MY, SO WE, WE DO HAVE MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES. UH, IT IS A, WITH THE FIREFLY PROJECT, A PATCHWORK QUILT OF GRANT FUNDS THAT WE ARE PARTY TO GRANT FUNDS THAT JUST FIREFLY IS PARTY TO AND OTHERS. UM, WITH, WITH FIREFLY, WE ARE, HAVE GOTTEN ALL OUR PAPERWORK, EVERYTHING'S GOING WELL, UH, WHERE WRAPPING UP OUR CLOSEOUT PROCESS WITH OUR, UH, OTHER PARTNER ON ANOTHER PROJECT, PORT A D INTERNET SERVICES. AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE WITH THE STATE AND EVERYTHING. AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT AS, AS WE CAN. AND THAT'S, I'LL JUST, WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. BUT WE DO TRY TO MAKE SURE ON OUR SIDE DO EVERYTHING, UM, TO TRY TO ADDRESS ANYTHING THAT THE STATE ASK OR ANYBODY ELSE, WHETHER IT ALSO BE ANOTHER REGIONAL PARTNER OR SOMEBODY TRY TO ADDRESS, UH, ISSUES WITH THEM. SO, SO THERE'S NO CLAW BACK. I MEAN, IF ONE OF OUR PARTNERS DOESN'T EXECUTE THE COUNTY IS, ARE WE RESPONSIBLE? SO I'LL SAY THAT WE, WE, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO MAKES SURE THAT THEY REVIEW OUR AGREEMENTS AND, UH, RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE NO CONCERNS ON ANY OF THAT. UM, AND WE ARE VERY CAUTIOUS, UM, UH, ABOUT THE, UH, CITIZEN'S MONEY AND, UH, HOW WE SPEND IT AND WHEN WE SUBMIT FOR REIMBURSEMENT AND WHAT, WHEN WE PAY OUT. SO WE'RE, WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU PAUL. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, NEXT IS OUR AUGUST AGRICULTURE SUMMARY. [8. August Agricultural Summary] UM, THAT, UH, REPORT IS IN THE PACKET, UH, BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE, OR COMMENTS ON THE BOARD REPORT? AP JUNE JULY REPORT PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FOR THE, UH, AGRICULTURE SUMMARY? ALRIGHT, I'LL JUST MENTION THAT THE STATE FAIR IS COMING UP. IT WILL RAIN THAT WEEK, JUST IF ANYBODY'S WANTING TO KNOW. SO, BUT, UH, I WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND IT'S, IT'S GREAT TO SEE THE LIVESTOCK AND THE RURAL ROOTS THAT, UH, REALLY CREATED VIRGINIA, SO, ABSOLUTELY. ALL RIGHT, SO NOW WE'VE GOT A CONSENT AGENDA, DR. [00:50:01] LEY. YEP. THANK YOU MR. CHRISTIE. SO BOARD MEMBERS [X. Consent Agenda] IN YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE ONE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM. THIS IS A RESOLUTION ADOPTING A NEW STATE LAW THAT [1. Resolution adopting new state law authority for venue and applicable law provisions in certain contracts as part of Goochland County’s Procurement Policies and Procedures] PROVIDES THE AUTHORITY FOR A VENUE AND OTHER APPLICABLE LAW PROVISIONS RELATED TO CONTRACTS AS A PART OF OUR PROCUREMENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. WHEN JULY 1ST, THIS LAW WENT INTO EFFECT. AND ULTIMATELY IT PROVIDES GREATER PROTECTIONS FOR US THAT ANY SORT OF LITIGATION OR ISSUES THAT WOULD IMPACT US FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT RELATED TO CONTRACTS WOULD TAKE PLACE HERE IN VIRGINIA RATHER THAN IN SOME FAR OFF LAND. UH, WE DO HAVE OUR COUNTY ATTORNEY AND PROCUREMENT STAFF HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE IN, UH, SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS TODAY. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. CHAIR? UH, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA ITEM ONE AS PRESENTED SECOND. ALL RIGHT, I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THIS A VOICE OR ROLL CALL? ALL RIGHT. UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. YAY. AYE. AYE. ALL RIGHT. AND IT PASSES. ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS AUGUST APPOINTMENTS. YEAH. BOARD MEMBERS. [XI. New Business] IN YOUR PACKET, YOU HAVE TWO NAMES THAT ARE PRESENTED FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION [1. August Appointments] RELATED TO APPOINTMENTS TO THE SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD. THOSE APPOINTMENTS ARE J LEY A MEMBER, UH, FOR A REAPPOINTMENT EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2020 1, 29, AS WELL AS AN APPOINTMENT FOR BETSY WRIGHT TO THE SOCIAL SERVICES BOARD FOR AN APPOINTMENT EFFECTIVE JUNE 1 25 THROUGH MAY 29TH, 2029. IT IS THE SECOND TERM FOR BOTH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED. OH, WHAT SECOND? SORRY. IT'S JUST, IS IT A REPORT OR IT'S IS IT AN APPOINTMENT? IT'S ANOTHER SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS IT A ROLL CALL VOTE? VOICE VOTE COULD BE FINE. ALL RIGHT. VOICE VOTE. VOICE VOTE'S FINE? YES, SIR. OR DO YOU CALL THE VOICE VOTE? OR DO I, UH, JUST ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. OH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? YAY. AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. SORRY. OKAY. NEXT WE WILL BE GOING INTO A CLOSED MEETING. [XII. Closed Meeting & Certification] UM, NEED TO READ, DO I JUST GO INTO THE MOTION MOTIONS? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISION OF VIRGINIA CODE 2.2 DASH 3 7 1 1 A ONE, [1. Motion: In accordance with the provisions of Virginia Code § 2.2-3711(A)(1), I move that the Goochland County Board of Supervisors convene in Closed Meeting for the purpose of discussing the performance and duties of the County Attorney.] I MOVE THAT THE GOLAND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONVENE AN CLOSE MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING THE PERFORMANCE AND DUTIES OF THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. SECOND. ALRIGHT, THIS IS A ROLL CALL. ROLL CALL. VOTE MR. LYLE. YAY. MR. SPOON. HOWER. YES. MR. VOS? YES. MR. CHRISTIE? YES. [01:33:34] . [01:33:35] WE, [01:33:36] WHAT'S [01:33:36] THAT? [01:33:37] WE [01:33:37] PRAY. [01:33:38] ALL [01:33:38] RIGHT. IT'S READY. ALRIGHT. CERTIFICATION PURSUANT TO VIRGINIA CODE [2. Certification: Pursuant to Virginia Code § 2.2-3712(D), I move that the Board members hereby certify that, to the best of each member’s knowledge, (i) only public business matters lawfully exempted from open meeting requirements under the Freedom of Information Act, and (ii) only the public business matters identified in the motion convening the Closed Meeting were heard, discussed, or considered in the Closed Meeting.] 2.2 DASH THREE SEVEN 2D, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD MEMBERS HEREBY CERTIFY THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS FULLY EXEMPT FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT AND ONLY THE PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS IDENTIFIED IN THE MOTION CONVENING. THE CLOSED MEETING WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED IN THE CLOSED MEETING. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. AND ROLL CALL VOTE. YEAH. MR. LYLE. YAY. MR. SPOON. HOWER. AYE. MR. VAERS? YES. AND MR. CHRISTIE? YES. ALRIGHT. RECESS TILL SEVEN O'CLOCK. SO, MEETING ADJOURN. YEAH, . GOOD JOB. ANOTHER WAY TO SAY YES. YOU HAVE FOUR DIFFERENT, [XIII. Dinner Break/Recess] [03:29:27] YEAH. [03:29:28] HEY, [03:29:28] HOW [03:29:28] YOU [03:29:28] DOING? [03:29:29] HOW [03:29:29] DOING? [03:29:32] I'M [03:29:32] ALMOST [03:29:32] DEAF, [03:29:32] SO, [03:30:20] ALL [03:30:20] RIGHT, [03:30:20] EVERYBODY, [03:30:22] WE'RE [03:30:22] GONNA [03:30:22] CALL [03:30:22] THIS [03:30:23] MEETING [03:30:23] TO [03:30:23] ORDER. [03:30:25] ISN'T [03:30:25] THAT, [03:30:26] UH, WHAT'S THAT? ALRIGHT. GONNA CALL THE MEETING ALL. [XIV. 7:00 PM - Chair Calls Meeting Back to Order] UM, FIRST AGENDA ITEM IS PRESENTATION RESOLUTION, RECOGNIZING JOHN AARON AS PRESIDENT OF THE ROTARY CLUB OF GLAND [XV. Presentation of Resolution Recognizing John Aaron as President of the Rotary Club of Goochland for 2024-2025] FOR 2024 THROUGH 2025. MR. AARON, WOULD YOU MIND COME COMING FORWARD TO THE PODIUM? MR. CHRISTIE WILL MEET YOU DOWN THERE AND MS. BISQUE WILL READ THE RESOLUTION. WHEREAS JOHN AARON HAS SERVED WITH DISTINCTION AS PRESIDENT OF THE ROTARY CLUB OF GLIN FROM 2024 TO 2025, EXEMPLIFYING ROTARY INTERNATIONAL'S MOTTO OF SERVICE ABOVE SELF THROUGH HIS LEADERSHIP, DEDICATION, AND VISION. AND WHEREAS UNDER JOHN AARON'S PRESIDENCY, THE ROTARY CLUB OF G OF GLIN MORE THAN DOUBLED THE ATTENDANCE OF ITS ANNUAL COMMUNITY AWARDS DINNER TO 225 ATTENDEES RECOGNIZING AND CELEBRATING EXCELLENCE IN THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS HE PRESIDED OVER THE CITIZENS AND THE COMMUNITY HEROES CATCH EVENT, WHICH PAID MEANINGFUL TRIBUTE TO THE FIRST RESPONDERS OF GLAND COUNTY, HIGHLIGHTING THEIR INVALUABLE CONTRIBUTIONS AND SACRIFICES. AND WHEREAS JOHN AARON LED THE ROTARY CLUB IN RAISING SIGNIFICANT FUNDS THAT SUPPORTED OVER 15 LOCAL CHARITIES FURTHERING THE CLUB'S MISSION TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE LIVES OF GLAND RESIDENTS. AND WHEREAS DURING HIS TENURE, THE CLUB COLLECTED OVER 4,500 POUNDS OF FOOD FOR GLAND CARES, ENSURING THAT VITAL RESOURCES REACH FAMILIES IN NEED AND RAISE MORE THAN $1,800 FOR THE SALVATION ARMY THROUGH ITS ANNUAL KETTLE RINGING DRIVE. AND WHEREAS THE ROTARY CLUB OF GLAND CELEBRATED ITS 30TH ANNIVERSARY WITH A COMMEMORATIVE BREAKFAST ATTENDED BY 200 CITIZENS, HONORING THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF GLAND CHARITIES AND ORGANIZATIONS, AND REINFORCING THE ROTARY CLUB'S ROLE AS A CORNERSTONE OF THE COMMUNITY. AND WHEREAS JOHN AARON'S LEADERSHIP HAS STRENGTHENED THE ROTARY CLUB OF GLAND'S LEGACY OF SERVICE INSPIRED ITS MEMBERS AND FOSTERED A SPIRIT OF UNITY AND GENEROSITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HEREBY COMMENDS AND HONORS JOHN AARON FOR HIS EXEMPLARY LEADERSHIP AND REMARKABLE CONTRIBUTIONS AS PRESIDENT OF THE ROTARY CLUB OF UCHIN 20 24, 20 25, AND FOR HIS STEADFAST DEDICATION TO IMPROVING THE LIVES OF THIS CITIZENS OF GLAND COUNTY AND BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THIS RESOLUTION BE RECORDED IN THE MINUTES OF THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. AND THAT A COPY BE PRESENTED TO JOHN AARON AS AN EXPRESSION OF THE BOARD'S GRATITUDE AND APPRECIATION BOARD MEMBERS. DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. UH, VOICE VOTE. VOICE VOTE. MM-HMM . ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT. CONGRATULATIONS. YEAH. RICHMOND AND UVA . MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE MEMBERS OF THE ROTARY CLUB JOIN THEM UP THERE AND, UH, BREAK THAT CAMERA TOO. WE'RE GONNA BE ALL RIGHT. COME ON UP HERE. RIGHT? SO YOU COME UP WITH US? YES. YES, YOU SHOULD. [03:35:11] MR. TY. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO. . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK, YEAH, I, ALL RIGHT. UH, DR. LEY, DO YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE WE OPEN CITIZEN COMMENT? YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. CHRISTIE. SO BEFORE WE HEAD INTO CITIZEN COMMENT, JUST WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. IT'S NICE TO HAVE A, A LARGE CROWD OF FOLKS WHO ARE ENGAGED IN THE WORK OF, OF YOUR COUNTY GOVERNMENT, UH, SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES WITH FOLKS THAT I HAD A CHANCE TO MEET WITH YESTERDAY. AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AGAIN THIS EVENING. UH, I SHARED SOME REMARKS EARLIER TODAY THAT MAY BE IMPORTANT FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN ATTENDANCE THIS EVENING. KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT AND WHAT THAT IS, WHAT IS, THAT'S NOT A LOT OF, A LOT OF PERCEPTIONS AND PERSPECTIVES ON THAT, WHICH CERTAINLY WE ALL VALUE AND WELCOME AS A COUNTY GOVERNMENT. AND SO YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC IF YOU CHOOSE TO. BUT ULTIMATELY, THERE'LL BE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO. UH, BECAUSE ULTIMATELY BASED ON STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WE DECIDED TO DELAY THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST. SO THAT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WILL NOW TAKE PLACE IN SEPTEMBER. UH, WE'LL ALSO BE PROVIDING ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR A COMMUNITY MEETING THAT WILL TAKE PLACE AT THE END OF AUGUST AND THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER, SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIMEFRAME. AND THEN ULTIMATELY, ANY MEETINGS THAT WE SCHEDULE, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SHARE FAR AND WIDE SO THAT EVERYBODY WHO IS EITHER AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER OR PROPERTY OWNER, OR LIVES IN NEIGHBORHOODS NEAR THE PROPOSED TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT, WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO KNOW WHAT IS POTENTIALLY PART OF THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION MOVING FORWARD. SO WE'RE COMMITTED TO TRANSPARENCY, WE'RE COMMITTED TO WE WELCOMING YOUR VOICE AND ULTIMATELY COLLECTIVELY WORKING TOWARDS A, A, YOU KNOW, A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, UH, STRONG FOR ALL OF US INVOLVED. AND SO THERE WILL BE NO ACTION THIS EVENING ON THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT, BUT CERTAINLY YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND THERE WILL BE MANY, MANY OPPORTUNITIES BEYOND TONIGHT WITH COMMUNITY MEETINGS, PLANNING COMMISSION, HEARINGS, AND ULTIMATELY BOARD OF SUPERVISOR HEARINGS IN THE FUTURE. SO, JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE. REFERENCED THAT YESTERDAY IN A MEETING THAT WAS IN AND EARLIER TODAY, AS WELL AS PART OF THE EARLY AFTERNOON MEETING. BUT JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT TO THE GROUP FOR AWARENESS SO THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'RE GOING IN THE FUTURE. BUT CONTINUE TO WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK. DR. DR. LEE, ARE THERE RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR FOLKS TO CAN GO ONLINE OR MAYBE SEE WHERE, WHERE, WHERE WE'RE WITH THIS? YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. SPOON. HOWER, GREAT QUESTION. YES, WE'VE, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO KEEP OUR WEBSITE UPDATE AND CUR UPDATED AND CURRENT RELATED TO THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT. WE ADDED SOME THINGS ON FRIDAY. WE PROVIDED SOME ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED IN THIS ROOM ON THE JULY THE SEVENTH, AND I'M SURE THERE'LL BE SOME ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT'LL BE FORTHCOMING AND WE'RE HAPPY TO KEEP THAT UPDATED. THAT WILL BE REALLY A GREAT ONE STOP SHOP TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE WE ARE AT THIS POINT IN TIME, NOTIFICATION OF FUTURE MEETINGS, AND ANY OTHER UPDATES WE PROVIDE TO ANY FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS OR ANY OTHER IDEAS THAT ARE ON YOUR MINDS. THANK YOU, MR. CHRISTIE. [XVI. Citizen Comment] ABSOLUTELY. UM, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GO INTO CITIZEN COMMENT. UH, HERE ARE THE RULES FOR THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. UH, THE BOARD IS OFFERING A CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD, NOT INTENDED TO LAST MORE THAN ONE HOUR. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESIDENTS TO SPEAK TO THE BOARD ABOUT ANY ISSUE INVOLVING THE COUNTY THAT IS NOT ON THE MEETING AGENDA FOR PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT AN ISSUE SCHEDULED FOR PUBLIC HEARING, YOU NEED TO SPEAK WHEN THAT MATTER IS CALLED. EACH PERSON MAY SPEAK UP, SPEAK ONCE UP TO THREE MINUTES. THE GREEN LIGHT TURNS ON WHEN YOU START TALKING. THE FIRST YELLOW LIGHT IS ONE MINUTE LEFT TO SPEAK. THE SECOND YELLOW LIGHT IS 30 SECONDS LEFT TO SPEAK, AND THE RED LIGHT IS THE SPEAKER'S. TIME IS UP. AND NOW I WILL OPEN CITIZEN COMMENT. THAT'S I AM GERALD HAAS. 1 2 3 1 3 BEACH HALL CIRCLE. I AM YIELDING [03:40:01] MY THREE MINUTES OF TIME TO MY WIFE, CYNTHIA HAAS. THANK YOU. HI, I'M CYNTHIA HAAS. I LIVE AT 1 2 3 1 3 BEACH HALL CIRCLE. HAVE A COUPLE OF ISSUES THAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT. UM, OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST ONE IS REGARDING THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT IN WEST CREEK, I BELIEVE WITH SEVERAL MODIFICATIONS. THE TOD PROPOSAL IS A GOOD THING FOR RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN NEARBY AND CLOSE TO WEST CREEK. THIS PROPOSAL IS A FIRST DRAFT, SO TO SPEAK. THE DATE FOR BRINGING IT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK TO SEPTEMBER, WHICH IS WONDERFUL. IT ALLOWS US TIME FOR MORE RESEARCH. IT ALLOWS THE PLANNING, COMMISSION, ZONING, COMMISSIONS, EVERYONE ELSE TO DO THEIR RESEARCH AS WELL. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE SEVERAL MODIFICATIONS I WOULD LIKE. UM, THE FIRST ONE IS TO ELIMINATE THE BUYRIGHT APPROVAL AT ALL. JUST COMPLETELY ELIMINATE IT. OTHER COUNTIES THAT GLAND NEEDS TO RESEARCH AND LEARN FROM STARTED WITH BUYRIGHT APPROVALS AND HAVE HAD TO ELIMINATE IT. THEY WERE ELIMINATED WHEN IT WAS LEARNED HOW BADLY THEY WERE BEING ABUSED. THE COUNTIES THAT DO NOT ALLOW BY RIGHT DEVELOPMENT OF DATA CENTERS ARE HENRICO, LOUDOUN, PRINCE WILLIAM PEAN, LOUISA, NEW KENT, CHARLES CITY, AND JAMES CITY. HENRICO WAS JUST IN THE NEWS FOR NEW LIMITS PLACED ON DATA CENTERS. HENRICO NOW REQUIRES DATA CENTERS TO BE APPROVED BY THEIR BOARD. THE TECH ZONE HENRICO PROPOSED WAS SHOT DOWN IN FAVOR OF REQUIRING DEVELOPERS TO APPLY FOR PROVISIONAL USE PERMITS THROUGH A HEARING PROCESS. GUGLIN NEEDS TO LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES THAT THESE OTHER COUNTIES MADE, SO ELIMINATE BYR APPROVALS, NOISE STANDARDS. THE PROPOSAL ALLOWS 65 DECIBELS. UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF LOWERING THIS TO 55. UH, TESTED, UH, GENERATOR TESTING ONE DAY A MONTH FOR 20 MINUTES. DEFINITELY NOT TWO HOURS A DAY. NO DIESEL GENERATORS ALLOWED EITHER NATURAL GAS OR SOLAR. COULD GOOSE ONE BE THE FIRST COUNTY WHERE DATA CENTERS ARE GREEN? WHAT ARE THE PENALTIES FOR DATA CENTERS OR FULFILLMENT CENTERS THAT BREAK THE ALLOWED NOISE LEVEL? UM, YOU KNOW, CAN I STAND IN MY BACKYARD WITH A DOWNLOADED APP AND RECORD THE DECIBELS WITH THE COUNTY? ACCEPT THAT AS PROOF THAT THE ALLOWABLE NOISE LEVEL HAS BEEN EXCEEDED. IF A COMPANY BREAKS THE NOISE LEVELS, WHAT ARE THE PENALTIES? A THOUSAND DOLLARS FINE TO A HUGE COMPANY IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. STRUCTURAL HEIGHT, THE PROPOSAL CURRENTLY ALLOWS FOR A 12 STORY BUILDING IN WEST CREEK. WHY? THERE ARE NO 12 STORY BUILDINGS ANYWHERE IN GLIN, AS FAR AS I KNOW. WHY WOULD IT BE ALLOWED IN WEST CREEK? I ASK FOR A MAXIMUM OF FOUR STORIES OR 40 FEET. REMOVE ALL BIOTECHNOLOGY AND BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH, PUT IN LANGUAGE THAT STATES NO WORK INVOLVING ANY TYPE OF VIRUSES OR OTHER HARMFUL BIOLOGICAL SUBSTANCES ALLOWED. WE ALL REMEMBER COVID. A LOT OF LABS WORK WITH EBOLA. I DON'T WANT THAT IN MY BACKYARD BUFFER ZONES. CURRENTLY, MY HOUSE WOULD BE 50 FEET FROM A DATA CENTER. NO. UM, I WOULD LIKE THAT BUFFER WITH ANY RESIDENTIAL LOT TO BE 1000 FEET. WHAT I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE EVEN BETTER IS THAT NO DATA CENTER BE ALLOWED TO BE BUILT ON A LOT THAT ABUTS A RESIDENTIAL LOT. THERE'S SIGNIFICANT WORK TO BE DONE ON THE PROPOSAL TO ACCOMPLISH A TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY ZONE, WHICH PROTECTS ALL COUNTY RESIDENTS. NO ONE WANTS A DATA CENTER IN THEIR BACKYARD. IF GLIN IS DETERMINED TO ALLOW DATA CENTERS IN WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK AS IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEN MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROPOSAL MUST BE MADE. NOW, SOME OTHER ITEMS, MR. LYLE, YOU HAVE BEEN VERY KIND IN RESPONDING TO EMAILS AND THAT IS VERY APPRECIATED. HOWEVER, IN ONE EMAIL TO A RESIDENT, YOU MENTIONED YOU WOULD LIKE TO ACTIVELY EXPLORE SMALL MODULAR REACTORS. QUITE FRANKLY, MR. LYLE, I APPLAUD THE FACT THAT YOU WANNA LOOK INTO ALTERNATIVE ENERGY OPTIONS. WE LOOKED AT SOLAR, YOU LOOK NUCLEAR. I REALLY DON'T WANT ANY SORT OF A REACTOR IN WEST CREEK NEAR ALL OF THE HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO BE BUILT THERE NEARBY. MR. VADER, MANY RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT FOUR HAVE REACHED OUT TO YOU VIA EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS. WHILE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD HAVE REPLIED AND GIVEN THEIR OPINIONS, YOU HAVE BEEN STRANGELY QUIET. YES, I KNOW TOM MARTIN WAS FINALLY ABLE TO REACH YOU, AND YOU HAVE AGREED TO COME AND SPEAK WITH RAIDERS BRANCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. [03:45:01] BUT MR. VAULTERS, YOU ARE THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT FOUR IN GLAND. YOU RAN FOR THIS OFFICE, YOU WERE ELECTED. YOU HAVE A DUTY TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS TO HELP. YOU ARE OUR VOICE IN GLAND COUNTY, IN MY OPINION THAT ENCLO INCLUDES REPLYING TO EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS. THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I DO THAT. OKAY, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS AMY HA STETTLER. I LIVE AT 1 2 3 2 5 BEACH HALL CIRCLE ON A PROPERTY THAT ABUTS THE, UM, WEST CREEK DISTRICT. AND I SEE THE REST OF MY TIME TO STEVE. HELLO, MY NAME IS STEVE SHORROCK. I'M AT 12 2 0 1 BREMNER RIDGE CIRCLE. FIRST, I, I WANNA THANK MR. VOS FOR, UH, AGREEING TO MEET WITH US AND IT IS MUCH APPRECIATED. UM, I HAVE SOME POINTS TO BRING UP NOW AND TO HAVE A CONVERSATION LATER RATHER THAN SPRINGING IT ON THEM WHEN WE HAVE THE MEETING BE A LOT MORE, UM, CONDUCIVE THAT WAY. THERE ARE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT NOISE. I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT WHAT YOU ALREADY HEARD, BUT WHERE AND WHEN IS THE NOISE MEASURED? IS IT AT THE RPUD PROPERTY LINE OR THE, THE EDGE OF THE, OF THE SOURCE PROPERTY? IF THE LIMIT IS 65 DECIBELS FOR A DATA CENTER, WHAT IS THE LIMIT FOR THREE DATA CENTERS AT A IN A ROW? BY THE WAY, EACH ONE OF THEM BEING APPROVED ONE AT A TIME, MAYBE A YEAR OR TWO APART AS THEY ALL BUILD UP, UM, A COURT. AND BY THE WAY, ACCORDING TO THE HEALTH HEARING FOUNDATION, 60 DECIBELS IS CONVERSATION THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FIVE DECIBELS BE, UH, BETWEEN THE 60 AND 65 ME SEEM TRIVIAL, BUT AGAIN, UH, ACCORDING TO THAT SAME HEALTH HEARING FOUNDATION QUOTE, SOUNDS ABOVE 70 DECIBELS CAN BE DAMAGING TO HEARING OVER TIME. ALSO, EVEN 60 DECIBELS IS LIKE HAVING A CONVERSATION ON YOUR PORCH WITH YOUR SPOUSE. THEN A THIRD PERSON IS TALKING CONSTANT CHATTERBOX, NEVER CEASING CONSTANT, A THIRD PERSON IN YOUR LIFE. THE DATA CENTERS BEST PRACTICE IS A MAXIMUM OF 55 DECIBELS OF PERCEIVED NOISE AT THE SENDING PROPERTY LINE. ALSO, NOISE RESTRICTIONS ARE FOR PROPERTIES, QUOTE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. DO YOU REMEMBER THE ZONING REQUEST FOR AN UNATTENDED EVENT FACILITY? SYCAMORE CREEK RESIDENTS WERE NOT NOTIFIED BECAUSE A 12 FOOT WIDE DRIVEWAY SEPARATED THEIR PROPERTY FROM THE EVENT PROPERTY THAT WAS UNDER ZONING. THEY WEREN'T NOTIFIED. THAT'S THE DEFINITION UNDER OUR LAW OF ADJACENT NEXT, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD TO OUR SURPRISE THAT THE TOD DOES NOT ALTER WEST CREEK ORDINANCE, THEREFORE, THE BUFFER WILL STILL BE 50 FEET. I HOPE THAT THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED. UM, NEXT LOOKING AT THE MAP, IS ROAD A DEAD? IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE ON THERE. THAT MEANS ALL TRAFFIC IS GOING TO HOCKET ROAD, NO TRAFFIC GOING DIRECTLY SOUTH TO TUCKAHOE CREEK PARKWAY, WHICH, UM, MAKES A WHOLE LOT MORE SENSE. HOCKET ROAD IS NOT GOING TO BE IMPROVED IN OUR LIFETIME. WE KNOW ABOUT, UH, FAIRGROUND ROAD. WE KNOW ABOUT ALL THE ROADS IN YOUR DISTRICT. THERE'S NO WAY THAT HOCKET ROAD IS GETTING ANY MONEY ANYTIME SOON AND NOT IN OUR LIFETIME, ALTHOUGH FRANKLY, SOME OF US ARE OLDER THAN OTHERS. UM, OKAY. UH, WHEN DOES THE TCSD CONTRACT EXPIRE? COULD HENRICO DO WHAT, UM, ROANOKE CITY IS DOING DEMANDING A CUT OF BOT AND TOTS DATA CENTER REVENUE WOULD, WOULD RATES SKYROCKET IF THEY HAD THE CHOICE, AND PARTICULARLY WOULD RATES SKYROCKET FOR ROCKET FOR US BECAUSE THEY WANT THEIR PIECE OF THE ACTION. A COUPLE OF TECHNICAL RECOMMENDATIONS. IF NATURAL GAS TURBINES ARE USED, SELECTIVE CATALYTIC REDUCTION UNITS SHOULD USE AMMONIA, NOT UREA. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO GO INTO ALL THE WHYS FOR THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO TALK ABOUT IT. BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS SHOULD USE GRAPHENE, NOT LITHIUM WASTE. HEAT RECAPTURED SHOULD BE REQUIRED NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND LOW FREQUENCY NOISE MITIGATION SHOULD BE REQUIRED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN. UH, UH, FOLKS, JUST, UH, PART [03:50:01] OF OUR, OUR POLICY AND OUR FOR DECORUM IS WE ASK THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY OUTBOARD OR CERTAIN CALL BOARD MEMBERS BY NAME. SO IF WE COULD PLEASE TRY TO ABIDE BY THAT. I KNOW IT'S AN EXCITING ISSUE, BUT IF WE COULD KEEP THE APPLAUSE AND OR POTENTIAL BOOZE DOWN TO A MINIMUM, THAT'D BE GREAT. PERFECT. ARE WE READY? OKAY. GOOD EVENING. UM, MY NAME IS LAWRENCE FRANK AND I RESIDE AT 1 2 1 6 2 READERS POINT DRIVE IN MANNEQUIN SABBATH, AND I PROUDLY CALLED GLAND HOMES SINCE 2002. UM, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID, UM, MR. SPOON, HOWER, BUT I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY THANK, UM, SUPERVISOR JONATHAN LYLE FOR FOLLOWING UP WITH ME PERSONALLY BY PHONE AND THE THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION I HAD WITH BOTH MR. LYLE AND CHAIRMAN TOM WINFREY. I APPRECIATE THEIR TIME AND COMMITMENT TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO RESPECTFULLY EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO ALLOWING DATA CENTERS TO BE BUILT IN THE WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK. FOR YEARS, WEST CREEK HAS EVOLVED INTO A UNIQUE PART OF GLAND. IT IS NO LONGER JUST A BUSINESS PARK. IT HAS BECOME A TRUE MIXED USE AREA. WE HAVE HIGH QUALITY EMPLOYERS LIKE CAPITAL ONE, THE FEDERAL RESERVE, CARMAX PERFORMANCE FOOD GROUP. THEY HAVE ALL DESIGNED THEIR FACILITIES WITH LOW VISIBLE VISUAL IMPACT AND STRONG ARCHITECTURAL INTEGRITY. BUT WE ALSO HAVE GROWING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. MOSAIC 2000 WEST CREEK READERS BRANCH, WHICH NOW INCLUDES OVER 300 HOMES. AVERY POINT IS BRINGING SENIOR LIVING AND 1600 FA RESIDENTS INTO THE FOLD. FAMILIES LIVE HERE, RETIREES LIVE HERE. IT IS ALSO THE HOME TO HARDY WOODS'S BEAUTIFUL BREWERY BREWERY AND THE STRYKER'S SOCCER COMPLEX, BOTH OF WHICH EXEMPLIFY THE KIND OF THOUGHTFUL HUMAN-CENTERED DEVELOPMENT WE VALUE. THAT'S WHY DATA CENTERS ARE SUCH A BAD FIT. THEY BRING 24 BY SEVEN INDUSTRIAL NOISE. THEY CONSUME ENORMOUS AMOUNTS OF ELECTRICITY AND WATER. THEY DON'T OFFER MEANINGFUL LONG-TERM EMPLOYMENT. AND THEIR DESIGN MASSIVE WINDOWLESS BOXES DOES NOT ALIGN WITH THE LOOKER FEEL OF WEST CREEK OR GURIN AT LARGE. OTHER V VIRGINIA COUNTIES, LOUDEN, PRINCE WILLIAM FA HERE ARE NOW RECKONING WITH THE INTENDED CONSEQUENCES. WE DO NOT NEED TO SACRIFICE ONE OF OUR COUNTY'S BEST PLANNED CORRIDORS FOR USE THAT UNDERMINES ITS QUALITY. THE GWIN STRATEGIC PLAN SAYS THAT WE SHOULD PROTECT OUR IDENTITY. WE DO NOT WANT TO BE HENRICO OR CHESTERFIELD. THIS IS OUR MOMENT. PLEASE DO WHAT YOU CAN, WHETHER THROUGH ZONING, UPDATES, DESIGN CONTROLS TO PREVENT INCA INCOMPATIBLE DATA CENTERS FROM RESHAPING WEST CREEK AND OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR TIME TONIGHT. SUPERVISORS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS LEE HALVERSON. I LIVE AT 1 2 2 5 3 BREMNER RIDGE CIRCLE IN MANNEQUIN SABOT READERS BRANCH. UH, IF I COULD GET EVERYBODY FROM READERS BRANCH TO STAND UP JUST FOR A SECOND. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO SPEND, UH, YOU CAN SIT DOWN NOW. , I'D LIKE TO SPEND A FEW MINUTES GIVING YOU MY IMPRESSIONS, UH, AND EXPERIENCE, UH, WORKING WITH DATA CENTERS AND MY THOUGHTS ON THE TECHNICAL CORRIDOR FOR, UH, 2 88. I'VE WRITTEN EACH OF YOU AND I APPRECIATE THE RESPONSE THAT I'VE GOTTEN. WE MOVED HERE FOUR YEARS AGO FROM NORTHERN VIRGINIA WHERE I WAS THE DEPUTY CHIEF INFORMATION OFFICER IN A SMALL BUREAU IN THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY FOR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS AT THE SYSTEM LEVEL FOR IT SYSTEMS AND APPLICATIONS. MY CLIENTS INCLUDED D-O-D-U-S-D-A, THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR, SOCIAL SECURITY, CIA AND, AND MANY, MANY MORE. I TOURED AND MY SYSTEMS OPERATED IN DATA CENTERS IN VIRGINIA, WEST VIRGINIA, AND COLORADO. ADDITIONALLY, I'M A PHOTOGRAPHER AND I HAVE A UNIQUE INTEREST IN UNUSUAL ARCHITECTURAL ANOMALIES [03:55:01] SUCH AS ROWS UPON ROWS OF CONCERTINA, SURROUNDED WINDOWLESS BLOCK HOUSES NEXT TO HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS, CHURCHES, SCHOOLS, REC CENTERS, AND PARKS. I WALKED ALL AROUND AND TOOK PICTURES 30 YEARS AGO. BIG D DATA CENTERS LIKE WE HAVE NOW WEREN'T EVEN ANYBODY'S IMAGINATION. THE 24 BY SEVEN POWER REQUIREMENT AND THE FOOTPRINT FOR THAT POWER REQUIREMENT'S. AMAZING. THE ASTRONOMICAL COOLING, UH, REQUIREMENT IS EXACERBATED BY HEAT, HUMIDITY, AND THE NOISE. WE ALL KNOW ABOUT THE STORIES ABOUT THE NOISE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM WALKING AROUND IT, IT'S HORRENDOUS AND IT'S CONSTANT. AND WHEN THE GENERATORS KICK OFF, IT'S A CRESCENDO OF, OF NOISE AND POLLUTION AND, YOU KNOW, THE GENERATORS WILL KICK OFF BECAUSE THERE WILL BE HEAT AND THE DOMINION WILL PROBABLY ASK THE DATA CENTERS TO REVERT TO GENERATOR POWER, UH, TO TAKE THE STRAIN OFF THE NETWORK. RIGHT NOW, THE DATA CENTERS ARE BUYRIGHT. I'M URGING YOU TO RECONSIDER THAT. LOUDOUN COUNTY AND NORTHERN VIRGINIA HAD BUYRIGHT ALSO, AND NOW THEY HAVE 55 MILLION SQUARE FOOT, MAYBE MORE OF DATA CENTERS, AND THEY'VE REVISED THEIR BY RIGHT TO GET SPECIAL PERMISSION FOR DATA CENTERS. AND RECO IS GETTING AHEAD OF THE GAME. THEY'VE ALREADY CHANGED THEIR PROCEDURES. I URGE YOU TO PLEASE REVIEW THE NEGATIVE SOCIAL, ENVIRONMENTAL, AND PERSONAL IMPACT OF THE DATA CENTERS IN GLAND. WE WOULDN'T PUT ONE NEXT TO A CHURCH OR A VINEYARD OR A HORSE STABLE OR SCHOOL. SO WHY OR WHY WOULD WE PUT ONE NEXT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? THANK YOU. SOME VERY GOOD COMMENTS BEING MADE HERE TODAY, AND APPRECIATE EVERYONE LISTENING IN AS INTENTLY AS YOU HAVE. HELLO, MY NAME IS JOHN BARROW AND, UH, MY WIFE AND I LIVE IN RITA'S BRANCH. WE'VE ONLY BEEN HERE SINCE JUNE, SO WE'VE, WE'RE KIND OF FALLEN INTO, UH, THIS DISCUSSION AND TRYING TO CATCH UP. I'M CURRENTLY RETIRED AFTER HAVING A LONG CAREER WITH ELI LILLIAN COMPANY. I HAD RESPONSIBILITY FOR DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND STARTUP OF MAJOR PHARMACEUTICAL MANUFACTURING FACILITIES IN THE US AND IN EUROPE. SITE SELECTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN PART OF THAT PROCESS. I HAVE SPENT THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS TRYING TO GET MY HEAD AROUND GLANDS COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT. I ADMIT I'M A BIT CONFUSED AT THIS POINT BY THE LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IN THE PROCESS AND TAKEN ABACK BY THE RAPID PACE AT WHICH THE COUNTY APPEARS TO BE PROCEEDING. I CAN TELL YOU IT HAS CREATED A BIT OF A HORNET'S NEST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IF INDEED DATA CENTERS ARE WHAT THE COUNTY HAS IN MIND, THEN IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, IT IS A MISTAKE PLACED IN THEM ADJACENT TO NEIGHBORHOODS. DATA CENTERS ARE NOT NEIGHBORHOOD FRIENDLY IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM. THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES OF HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL TECHNOLOGY PARKS THAT DO NOT INCLUDE DATA CENTERS. TAKE A ROAD TRIP AND SEE FOR YOURSELVES IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY, PERHAPS TO RTP RESEARCH TRIANGLE PARK OUT IN DURHAM COUNTY OR NORTH CAROLINA, OR THE MULTIPLE TECHNOLOGY PARKS JUST A LITTLE BIT NORTH IN THE GREATER PHILADELPHIA AREA. I'M ASKING THAT YOU PERCEIVE A CAUTION REACHING FOR WHAT APPEARS TO BE THE MOST EXPEDIENT SOLUTION IS HIGH RISK AND IS UNINTENDED NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCE CONSEQUENCES OFTEN PREVAIL. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND A SIGNIFICANT PAUSE IN THE PROCESS FOR CREATING THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAID DISTRICT AND REQUEST THAT YOU MAKE AN ASSERTED EFFORT TOWARDS COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND COLLABORATION. LISTEN TO WHAT THE PEOPLE HAVE TO SAY, CREATE THE SPACE FOR MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION. BE TRANSPARENT AND TRUST WILL FOLLOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS BRETT DARRY. PARDON ME. I RESIDE AT 12 3 85 SOUTH READER CIRCLE AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT. MANY HAVE HEARD ABOUT AND SOME HAVE EXPERIENCED FIRSTHAND THE NEGATIVE IMPACT. HUGE DATA AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS [04:00:01] LIKE AMAZON'S ON ASHLAND ROAD HAVE ON ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS. LAST WEEK, MY WIFE AND I VISITED FOUR DATA CENTERS IN HENRICO WEST END AND WHITE OAK TECHNOLOGY PARK IN THE EAST END. THE FOUR CENTERS IN THE THE WEST END WERE INNOCUOUS. HOWEVER, WHAT WE SAW AT WHITE OAK TECHNOLOGY PARK LEFT US AWESTRUCK AND TERRIFIED THAT SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD HAPPEN ADJACENT TO SIX OR MORE GLAND NEIGHBORHOODS. I HAVE PHOTOS FOR YOU IN A PACKET THAT I LEFT WITH A CLERK, BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN OUT THERE TO, TO WHITE OAK, YOU NEED TO GO AND THEN PICTURE THOSE DATA CENTERS AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS ADJACENT TO NEIGHBORHOODS. RIGHT NOW, A MEGA DATA OR DISTRIBUTION CENTER CAN BE BUILT BY RIGHT IN THE M1 ZONE WITH ONLY ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL AND NO ACTION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE BOARD. WITH RESPECT TO THE TOD I'VE BEEN GIVEN TO UNDERSTAND THAT ITS DESIGN STANDARDS DON'T APPLY IN THE WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK, THE LARGEST PART OF THE, OF THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE. THEREFORE, IT'S REQUESTED THAT SECTION 15 DASH 2 62 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE BE AMENDED FROM BUYRIGHT DEVELOPMENT IN M1 ZONES FOR DATA AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS TO A SPECIAL EXCEPTION PROVISIONAL OR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT MUST BE PUBLICLY NOTICED AND HEARD BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THIS WOULD NOT CHANGE PERMITTED USES IN THE M1 ZONES AND DOES NOT DEPRIVE THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE USE OR VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. BOTH HENRICO AND LOUDOUN COUNTIES HAVE MADE THIS CHANGE TO PROTECT NEIGHBORHOODS AS ROBUST AS THE DEMAND IS FOR DATA AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS. NONE OF THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES WILL DETER ANY BUSINESS INVESTMENT IN GLAND IF THAT'S WHERE THEY WANT TO BE. YOUR GOAL OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT IS A GOOD ONE, BUT NOBODY WANTS A MEGA DATA DISTRI DISTRIBUTION CENTER IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT'S NOT SIMPLE. NIMBYISM. TODAY THERE'S FOREIGN EXCESS OF A HALF A BILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF NEW PLAN AND EXISTING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE HOCKET ROAD, BROAD STREET AND 2 88 CORRIDOR. THAT WILL BE AFFECTED BY THE PROPOSED TZ AND TTOD AND BUYRIGHT DEVELOPMENT. IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. THERE'S ABUNDANT LAND IN GLAND TO ACCOMMODATE 'EM WITHOUT IMPACTING THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS IN SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. I URGE YOU TO PROTECT THE INTEREST OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENTS IN GLAND COUNTY AND ASK YOU TO DIRECT THE MANAGER TO CONTACT HIS COUNTERPARTS IN HENRICO AND LOUDOUN FOR INFORMATION ABOUT RECENT CHANGES TO THEIR ZONING ORDINANCES AND COMPREHENSIVE PLANS RELATED TO DATA CENTERS AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, AND THEN INCORPORATE THEM INTO GLAND'S CODE AND PLAN THE RIGHT OF ALL COUNTY RESIDENTS. YOUR YOUR TIME TO THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THEIR HOMES SHOULD NOT BE SACRIFICED IN ALL OUT PURSUIT OF BUSINESS REVENUE, HOWEVER MUCH IT IS DESIRED OR NEEDED. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOUR INDULGENCE, MR. CHAIR. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS REVEREND LISA SYKES. I'VE BEEN IN MINISTRY FOR 34 YEARS IN THE RICHMOND AREA. MY CONGREGATIONS WOULD'VE GIVEN A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THESE LITTLE LIGHTS ON MY PULPIT . I LIVE AT 1 2 4 8 2 NORTH CROSSING DRIVE IN READERS BRANCH AND I'M DELIGHTED TO BE THERE AND FIND A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY THAT'S THERE. IT'S AN HONOR TO ADDRESS YOU TONIGHT. HOLISTIC IS A GOOD WORD. THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS INTERESTED IN THE WELFARE OF THE WHOLE COUNTY OF GLAND. YET I'M CONCERNED FINANCIAL PRESSURES ARE HAVING A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON DECISION MAKING AFFECTING THE WHOLE AND THE WHOLENESS OF GLAND COUNTY. BASED ON THE CENSUS DATA THAT I'VE LOOKED AT, THE POPULATION HERE IS ALMOST EVENLY DIVIDED BETWEEN THE THREE WESTERN DISTRICTS AND THE TWO EASTERN DISTRICTS. THAT MEANS THAT THE WEST END OF THE COUNTRY, AS REPRESENTED OF THE COUNTY AS REPRESENTED IN THIS ROOM, CAN CONSISTENTLY OUT VOTE THE EAST END OF THE COUNTRY COUNTY. THAT CONCERNS ME. AFTER THE HIGHLAND PROJECT HIGH FIELD PROJECT IN THE EAST OF THE COUNTY WAS PASSED WITH ONLY VOTES FROM THE WEST OF THE COUNTY AND OVERRIDDEN THE SAFETY CONCERNS OF CA HIGHER CAPTAIN FERGUSON. I THINK THAT'S A CONCERN. NOW, THE INITIAL DRAFT OF THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT SETS A BAR SO LOW IN TERMS OF BUYRIGHT AND HEIGHT MINIMUM THAT I'M AFRAID WE'RE GOING TO OUT LOUD AND LOUD AND [04:05:01] I DON'T WANNA DO THAT. I ACCEPT THAT ALL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ARE HERE AND NEEDED FOR THE SAKE OF THE COMMUNITY AND INCOME THAT WILL BENEFIT GLAND COUNTY, BUT I DON'T WANT IT TO METAPHORICALLY COST US MORE THAN IT'S WORTH. I DON'T WANT ANY DATA CENTERS IN GOLAND IF IT'S UP TO ME PERIOD AT ALL. BUT WHATEVER IS BUILT IN THE TOD SHOULD NOT DISADVANTAGE HOMEOWNERS, WHETHER IN BELLEVUE OR MOSAIC OR BLUFFTON. SINCE THE COUNTY APPROVED ALL THE CREATION OF ALL OF THESE SUBDIVISIONS. AGAIN, I AM WORRIED BECAUSE OF MARGARET AND STEVE WHO I MET AT YESTERDAY'S MEETING. THEY ARE RESIDENTS IN PARKSIDE AND THEY'VE BEEN TOLD THAT ONCE THE AMAZON DISTRIBUTION CENTER OPENS THERE IN ROCKVILLE, THEY AND ALL THE RESIDENTS AT PARKSIDE WILL HAVE TO RELY ON HENRICO AND HANOVER EMS FOR THEIR EMERGENCY NEEDS. AND THAT'S A SERIOUS DISADVANTAGE IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES, SHOULD PERMIT NOT SOME OF GLAND, BUT THE WHOLE OF GLAND. AND I'M EVEN THINKING OF THE NOISE AND THE ENVIRONMENT TO BENEFIT. I'VE GOT THOSE I HAVE MET RECENTLY WHO ARE CONCERNED NOT ONLY ABOUT THE HUMANS LIVING ALONG HAWKET ROAD, BUT THE HORSES THAT WILL BE ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY THE NOISE AND THE SOUNDS FROM DATA CENTERS AND LOUD GENERATORS. I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE THINK ABOUT CLEAN ENERGY, WHETHER IT'S NATURAL GAS OR SOLAR, AND I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT THE FARM OWNERS ARE CLEARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR LIVESTOCK SET. THE BAR HIGH, I ASK YOU, AND NOT LOW FOR THE TOD AND THE WHOLE COUNTY WILL BE BETTER OFF, LITERALLY AND METAPHORICALLY. THANK YOU LADIES. GENTLEMEN, MY NAME IS GRAYDEN FISHER. I LIVE IN READERS BRANCH. UH, WE LIVE, MY WIFE AND I MOVED UP HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO, AND I HAVE NO TECHNICAL EXPERTISE, AS ALL THE REST OF THE PEOPLE WHO'VE SPOKEN. THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD ADDRESS AT THIS POINT IN I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY CLEAR, IS THAT HOCKET ROAD HAS BEEN GIFTED WITH A LOT OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE TECHNOLOGICAL CENTER THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S PROPOSED WILL HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. I THINK THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CLEAR. UM, BOTTOM LINE PROPERTY VALUES, I THINK THAT THEY WOULD DROP SIGNIFICANTLY ALONG THAT CORRIDOR AND IT WOULD BE HARD TO GET OTHER DEVELOPERS TO COME IN KNOWING THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. AND THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. UH, MY NAME IS DR. BRUCE SILVERMAN. UM, I LIVE AT, UM, UH, 1340 HOUNSLOW DRIVE IN, UH, MANNEQUIN SABOT. UH, I HAVE, UM, UH, THE DISTINCT, UH, UH, PLEASURE AND, AND HIGH HONOR TO SERVE AS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR AT GOKIN CARES. UH, TONIGHT I'M ONLY ADDRESS THE HEALTH ASPECTS THAT I'VE LEARNED ABOUT, UM, FOR DATA CENTERS. UM, UH, MOST OF THE INFORMATION I HAVE, UH, READ ABOUT IS FROM THE, UM, UH, JAC STUDY THAT GENERAL ASSEMBLY COMMISSIONED IN, UH, 2024. UM, FIRST, UM, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE CONCERNS REGARDING, UH, AIR QUALITY, UH, THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY AND POWER, UH, DURING POWER OUTAGES. UM, THEY RELY ON THESE DIESEL GENERATORS. UH, THE DIESEL GENERATORS ADMIT, UH, PARTICULATE MATTER, UH, NITROGEN OXIDE AND OTHER HARMFUL POLLUTANTS. UH, EVEN BRIEF REPEATED OPERATIONS CAN, UH, DEGRADE LOCAL AIR QUALITY, UH, PARTICULARLY FOR RESIDENTS WHO SUFFER FROM ASTHMA, ALLERGIES OR OTHER RESPIRATORY CONDITIONS. RECENT STUDIES HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT, UH, COMMUNITIES NEAR, UH, CLUSTERS OF DATA, UH, DATA CENTERS, UM, EXPERIENCE HIGHER RATES OF RESPIRATORY ILLNESSES AND REPORT ODORS AND VISIBLE POLLUTION DURING GENERATED TESTING AND OUTAGES FOR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, THE ELDERLY CHILDREN AND THOSE WITH PREEXISTING ILLNESSES. THESE ADMISSIONS POSE A PARTICULAR RISK, UH, NOISE POLLUTION. ANOTHER [04:10:01] SIGNIFICANT CONCERN. THE CONSTANT HUMMING OF COOLING FANS, GENERATORS, AND OTHER MECHANICAL SYSTEMS CAN, UH, LEAD TO ELEVATED NOISE LEVELS. 24 HOUR A DAY CHRONIC EXPOSURE TO THIS KIND OF LOW FREQUENCY NOISES LINKED TO SLEEP DISTURBANCES, INCREASED STRESS, AND EVEN CARDIOVASCULAR EFFECTS FOR RESIDENTS WHOSE HOMES, UH, WHAT ARE THESE FACILITIES? DISRUPTION CAN BE PROFOUND AFFECTING QUALITY OF LIFE AND GENERAL, UH, WELLBEING BEING, UH, WHILE ONGOING RESEARCH, UH, REGARDING ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS, UH, THERE IS A COMMUNITY APPREHENSIVE ABOUT THIS, UM, UH, PROBLEM. UH, THIS IS, UH, UH, UH, UH, A PROBLEM WITH DATA CENTERS. RESIDENTS OFTEN EXPLAIN, UH, EXPRESS CONCERNS OF THE LONG-TERM HEALTH EFFECTS, INCLUDING SLEEP DISRUPTION AND HEADACHES. EXCESSIVE NIGHTTIME LIGHTING, UH, REQUIRED FOR SECURITY AND OPERATIONS CAN LEAD TO LIGHT POLLUTION, FURTHER DISTURBING, UH, SLEEP CYCLES AND, UH, NATURAL WILDLIFE HABITATS. UH, WATER, UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S ESSENTIAL TO OVERLOOK THE MASSIVE, UH, WATER CONSUMPTION, UH, ESPECIALLY IN REGIONS WHERE, UH, THIS MAY BE SCARCE. UH, THIS MAY, UH, UH, ALSO INJECT, UH, HEAT INTO THE ENVIRONMENT, UM, UH, DUE TO THE COOLING PROCESS. AND THIS CREATES MICROCLIMATE CHANGES AFFECTING A NEARBY AGRICULTURE AS WELL AS OUR RESIDENTS. UH, THE WELLBEING OF COMMUNITIES SHOULD NOT BE, UH, UNDERESTIMATED HERE. THIS WILL CER, UH, WILL CERTAINLY TAKE A, A PSYCHOLOGICAL TOLL ON ON OUR COMMUNITY. UH, THE, UH, UPSIDE OF THIS REPORT WAS THAT, UM, DATA CENTERS IN THEIR CURRENT, UM, UH, UH, SIR, YOUR, YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED. YES. ONE THING, UM, UM, THAT DATA, OUR CURRENT DATA CENTERS SHOULD BE IN HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREAS AND I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS, UH, ANY LONGER, UH, WEST CREEK. UH, IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREAS. WE'VE APPROVED RESIDENTIAL HOUSING EVEN WITHIN, UH, WEST CREEK. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. YES. AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. ALLOW PEOPLE TIME TO, TO, UH, EXIT. [04:21:51] UH, [04:21:51] DO I NEED TOL BACK IN? OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO NOW WE ARE AT THE PUBLIC HEARINGS PART OF THE MEETING. OUR FIRST PUBLIC [XVII. Public Hearings] HEARING IS 6 4 0 9 DISTRICT FOUR CU DASH 20 25 0 0 0 0 1 APPLICATION BY TRAVIS W JOHNSON, REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED ON 4.01 ACRES AT 2 0 7 ECHO MEADOWS ROAD ON [1. District 4 - CU-2025-00001 Application by Travis W. Johnson requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for short-term rental, unhosted, on 4.01 acres at 207 Echo Meadows Road on Tax Map No. 47-35-0-3-0. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 in accordance with Sec. 15-285.G. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.] TAX MAP NUMBER FOUR SEVEN DASH THREE FIVE DASH THREE. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURE LIMITED A TWO. THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION ONE 15 DASH 12 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION ONE FIVE DASH TWO 80 5G. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RULE ENHANCEMENT AND JOSH GILLESPIE WILL BE PRESENTING. UH, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. UH, CHAIR CHRISTIE AND GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD, I AM JOSH GILLESPIE, GLAND COUNTY'S DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR. IT'S MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THIS AGENDA ITEM THIS EVENING. THIS HEARING INVOLVES A REQUEST BY TRAVIS JOHNSON FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNHOSTED. THE VICINITY MAP ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE PROPERTY THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITHIN THE RED CIRCLE NEAR THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE COUNTY. ZOOMING IN THE AERIAL PHOTO PHOTO ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED OFF ECHO MEADOWS ROAD NORTH OF INTERSTATE 64. THE ZONING MAP ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE PROPERTY AND OTHER AREA PROPERTIES IN THE GREEN AGRICULTURAL LIMITED ZONING DISTRICT. THE MAP ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY DESIGNATED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR RURAL ENHANCEMENT. USES THE USES ON THE PROPERTY AT CURRENT AND, UH, INCLUDE A RESIDENCE AND A DETACHED GARAGE THAT THE DETACHED GARAGE WAS BUILT IN 2023 WITH WALK-UP STORAGE AND REMAINS UNFINISHED. A SEPTIC SYSTEM WAS RECENTLY APPROVED FOR THE GARAGE BUILDING TO SHARE CAPACITY WITH THE PRIMARY DWELLING. THIS IMAGE SHOWS THE SURVEY PLAN OF THE PROPERTY WITH THE PRIMARY DWELLING AND THE GARAGE PROPOSED BY THIS CUP FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL UNIT. THE PLAN IS ORIENTED WITH THE NORTH GENERALLY TO THE RIGHT. OTHER FEATURES ON THE PROPERTY INCLUDE A PORTION OF A SHARED POND TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON PUBLIC OUTREACH MILESTONES FOR THIS PROJECT, THE APPLICANT HELD A COMMUNITY MEETING ON APRIL THE NINTH THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO EXPLAIN THE PROPOSAL AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. THE MEETING WAS ATTENDED BY FIVE CITIZENS AS WELL AS SUPERVISOR LYLE AND PLANNING COMMISSIONER KIMBERLY. QUESTIONS RAISED DURING THE MEETING RELATED TO WHO MIGHT RENT THE DWELLING, HOW LONG GUESTS MIGHT STAY, HOW THE UNIT WOULD BE ADVERTISED, THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE BUILDING, HOW THE ZONING PROCESS WORKS, [04:25:01] THE RULES FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND WHETHER THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD STAY ON THE PROPERTY WHILE THE UNIT IS RENTED. THE APPLICANT ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS DURING THE MEETING. THE PLANNING COMMISSION THEN HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 17TH OF THIS YEAR AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE APPLICATION WITH THE VOTE. FOUR TO ZERO, NO CITIZENS SPOKE AT THE MEETING. THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF THE STANDARD CONDITIONS FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL APPLICATIONS, INCLUDING USE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY, LIFE SAFETY MEASURES, SOUND AND NOISE, POSTED BOUNDARY SIGNS, RESIDENTIAL APPEARANCE, PROHIBITIONS ON GUEST HUNTING AND USING FIREARMS DURING THEIR STAYS, NOTICES AND LEASES, CUP EXPIRATION AND TRANSFER OR LEASE OF THE PROPERTY. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER, UH, TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FOR ME. UH, THE APPLICANT IS HERE AS WELL. MR. AND MRS. JOHNSON, MR. BOARD MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? NO. OKAY. UH, MR. JOHNSON, UH, DID ATTEND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AND, UH, HE SAID THAT THE STAFF HAD COVERED THE MATERIAL, UH, AS PRESENTED. SO HE'S, UH, INDICATED THE SAME THIS EVENING. ALRIGHT. UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, PUBLIC HEARING. OH, OH, HEARING OPEN. PUBLIC HEARING. GOTCHA. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. RIGHT, RIGHT. CLOSE IT. ALL RIGHT. SEEING NOBODY, I WILL CLOSE IT. UH, BOARD MEMBERS. DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. CHAIR? UM, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2025 DASH ONE SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT. IS THIS A ROLL CALL? VOTE? DID YOU ASK FOR ANY DISCUSSION? OH, DISCUSSION? YEAH. I JUST HAD A QUESTION, MR. CHAIR. SO, UM, MR. GLASSBY, SO THERE'S A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, AND THEN YOU SPOKE OF THE GARAGE WITH A WALKUP. IS THE, I'M CONFUSED. IS THIS TWO, TWO BUILDINGS? THERE ARE, YES, SIR. THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS, UM, THAT'S SHOWN IN THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE PLAT OF THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? SO, WHICH IS ARE BOTH FOR SHORT-TERM RENTAL, IF IT'S NO, SIR, IT WOULD BE THE, UH, ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. UM, CONDITION NUMBER ONE TALKS ABOUT THIS, UH, SHORT TERM RENTAL. UNHOSTED MAY BE OPERATED ON THE PROPERTY SUBJECT TO THESE CONDITIONS. THE USE CAN ONLY OCCUR IN THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. IDENTIFIED IT ON THE CONCEPT PLAN EXHIBIT A. SO, SO WHY IS IT IF THEY'RE GONNA BE, IS THE, IS THE OTHER HOUSE INHABITED? YES, SIR. MR. AND MRS. JOHNSON LIVE IN THE PRIMARY HOUSE. OKAY. SO WHY WOULD IT BE UNHOSTED? YEAH, THAT WAS A, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. SO THANK YOU. THEY WANT THE ABILITY TO BE OFF THE PROPERTY. UM, MR. AND MRS. JOHNSON REPLIED TO A SIMILAR QUESTION AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, BY STAYING, IT WAS THEIR INTENT TO BE THERE WHEN THEIR GUESTS WERE THERE BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THEIR GUESTS AND, AND SEE THEM ON THE PROPERTY. BUT WHAT THEY'VE APPLIED FOR IS FOR IT TO BE AN UNHOSTED FACILITY, AND THAT MEANS IF THEY WANT TO GO OUT TO DINNER OR OTHERWISE BE OFF THE PROPERTY WHEN THE GUESTS ARE THERE, THE GUESTS COULD BE THERE. UNHOSTED. THANK YOU MR. LES? YES, SIR. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT. GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. UH, IS THIS A ROLL CALL? VOTE. ALL RIGHT, DR. LEY. MR. LYLE. YAY. MR. SPOON. HOWER. HI. MR. WATERS? YES. AND MR. CHRISTIE? YES. CONGRATULATIONS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OUR NEXT PUBLIC HEARING IS DISTRICT FIVE CU 20 25 0 0 0 0 2. [2. District 5 - CU-2025-00002 Application by Benedictine Society of Virginia requesting to amend conditional use permit (CUP) case CU-2023-00005 to increase the maximum occupancy limits for the combined uses on 50.045 acres at 12829 River Road on Tax Map No. 66-1-0-2-0. The Property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2) and Residential, Limited (R-1). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 and Sec. 15-152. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Semi-Public and Single Family Residential, Medium Density] APPLICATION BY BENEDICTINE SOCIETY OF VIRGINIA REQUESTING TO AMEND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, CUP CASE CU 2023 DASH 0 0 0 5 TO INCREASE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY LIMITS FOR COMBINED USES ON 50.045 ACRES AT 1 2 8 2 9 RIVER ROAD ON TAX, UH, ON TAX MAP NUMBER SIX SIX DASH ONE DASH ZERO DASH TWO DASH ZERO. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO AND RESIDENTIAL LIMITED R ONE. THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION ONE 15 DASH ONE 12 AND SECTION ONE [04:30:01] 15 DASH 15 TWO. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS SEMI-PUBLIC AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL MEDIUM DENSITY. AND PRESENTING IS JOSH GILLESPIE. AGAIN. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. UH, AND GOOD EVENING BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD. I AM JOSH GILLESPIE, UH, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT THIS AGENDA ITEM AS WELL. THIS HEARING INVOLVES A REQUEST BY THE BENEDICTINE SOCIETY OF VIRGINIA TO AMEND CONDITIONS OF, UH, PERMIT APPROVAL ASSOCIATED WITH THE ROUGHLY 50 ACRE PROPERTY. AT THE ADDRESS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY THE BENEDICTINE AND ST. GERTRUDE HIGH SCHOOLS. THE VICINITY MAP ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WITHIN THE RED CIRCLE NEAR THE SOUTHEAST EXTENT OF THE COUNTY. ZOOMING A LITTLE CLOSER, THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED AND THE VICINITY OF RIVER ROAD, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO AND NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY STATE ROUTE 2 88 IS LOCATED TO THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY. THE JAMES RIVER IS LOCATED TO THE SOUTH OF THE PROPERTY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SPLIT ZONED. THE ZONING MAP ON THE LEFT SHOWS THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY AND PROPERTIES TO THE WEST AND EAST ARE IN THE GREEN AGRICULTURAL LIMITED ZONING DISTRICT. THE NORTH LEE PART OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND OTHER PROPERTIES ALONG THE RIVER ROAD CORRIDOR ARE ZONED RESIDENTIAL LIMITED SHOWN ON THAT MAP IN LIGHT YELLOW TO A DEPTH OF ROUGHLY 450 FEET. TRANSITIONING TO THE MAP ON THE RIGHT, THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR SEMI-PUBLIC USES. THE USES ON THE PROPERTY HAVE EVOLVED OVER MANY DECADES FROM A DRUG AND ALCOHOL REHABILITATION CENTER, ONCE OPERATED BY THE BON SECOURS HEALTH SYSTEM TO THE CURRENT USES OF THE PROPERTY AS A MONASTERY AND RETREAT FACILITY, A CHAPEL AND AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPUS FOR THE BENEDICTINE BOYS HIGH SCHOOL AND THE ST. GERTRUDE GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL. PRIOR ZONING CASES ISSUED BY ZONING, UH, BY GLAND COUNTY GO BACK TO 1993. AND THE REQUEST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS APPLICATION IS TO AMEND CONDITIONS RELATED TO THE FOURTH AND MOST RECENT PERMIT, CU 20 23 0 5. THIS IMAGE SHOWS THE BENEDICTINE SOCIETY OF VIRGINIA'S APPROVED MASTER PLAN. THE PLAN IS ORIENTED WITH NORTH GENERALLY TO THE RIGHT KEY CAMPUS. FEATURES INCLUDE ONE ACCESS POINT TO THE SITE FROM RIVER ROAD, PARALLELING THE NORTH PROPERTY LINE. AGAIN, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PLAN, MULTIPLE ATHLETIC FIELDS SPREAD THROUGH THE SITE. BENEDICTINE BOYS HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING NEAR THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY. ST. GERTRUDE GIRLS HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING NEAR THE JAMES RIVER LEFT SIDE OF THE PLAN GYMNASIUM NEAR THE WESTERN BOUNDARY, TOP OF THE PLAN AND PARKING AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE SITE, MOSTLY NEAR THE MAIN BUILDINGS. MOST RECENT CONDITIONAL USE, PERMANENT EFFECT TODAY ESTABLISHED 16 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU REQUEST MODIFICATION OF CONDITION. FOUR RELATED TO OCCUPANCY LIMITS, WHICH REFERS TO THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CAN BE ON THE SITE AT ANY ONE TIME. THE EXISTING CONDITION, NUMBER FOUR AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE ESTABLISHES A MAXIMUM OF 550 STUDENTS, 115 TEACHERS AND FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, 20 MONKS AND 250 SEATS WITHIN THE CHURCH TAKEN TOGETHER. THIS ALLOWS A TOTAL OCCUPANCY OF 935 TOTAL PEOPLE. THE REQUEST A MODIFICATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, SHOWN ON THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE SLIDE, IS INTENDED TO ACCOMPLISH THREE GOALS. FIRST, INCREASE THE OCCUPANCY LIMIT FROM 935 TO 1500 PEOPLE. SECOND, ELIMINATE THE INDIVIDUAL CATEGORIES OF USERS TO PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY AND BUSINESS PRACTICES AND USE OF THE PROPERTY. AND THIRD, CLARIFY THAT THE 1500 PERSON LIMIT DOES NOT APPLY TO CERTAIN TEMPORARY ACTIVITIES. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND BRIEFLY READ THE FULL TEXT OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. OH, EXCUSE ME. UM, SO CONDITION FOUR. UH, SO HIGHLIGHTING IN YELLOW, SUBJECT TO CONDITION FIVE, WHICH RELATES TO WATER CAPACITY LIMITS, AT NO TIME WILL THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY FOR THE COMBINED USES EXCEED 1500 PEOPLE. THIS OCCUPANCY LIMIT DOES NOT APPLY TO CERTAIN TEMPORARY ACTIVITIES. FOR PURPOSES OF THIS CONDITION, A TEMPORARY ACTIVITY IS DEFINED AS BEING INCIDENTAL AND SUBORDINATE TO ANY APPROVED USE LISTED IN CONDITION. TWO EXAMPLES INCLUDE, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO SCHOOL RELATED SPORTING EVENTS, GRADUATION CEREMONIES, AND OTHER SIMILAR ACTIVITIES. UM, NOW I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND SUMMARIZE THE GENERAL NATURE AND SCOPE OF ALL 16 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL REFLECTED IN THE RESOLUTION. FOR CONTEXT, MOST CONDITIONS HAVE SIMPLY BEEN CARRIED FORWARD FROM THE EXISTING PERMIT FOR VERBATIM CONDITION. ONE CLARIFIES THAT THIS PERMIT SUPERSEDES AND CONTROLS OVER ANY PRIOR ALLOWANCES AND CONDITIONS ESTABLISHED IN A PRIOR PLAN CONDITION. TWO, CLARIFIES THE GENERAL LAND USES ALLOWED ON THE PROPERTY GENERALLY DESCRIBED AS SCHOOLS AND RELIGIOUS FACILITIES. A REFERENCE TO MUSEUM HAS BEEN ADDED AFTER GIPPS SHOP IN THIS APPLICATION TO ALIGN THE ALLOWANCE, EXCUSE ME, THE ALLOWANCES WITH CURRENT OPERATIONS ON THE PROPERTY CONDITION. TWO ALSO ESTABLISHES A LIMIT [04:35:01] OF 250, FULL, EXCUSE ME, 20 FULL-TIME RESIDENTS, WHICH HAS NOT BEEN REQUESTED FOR CHANGE CONDITION. THREE. ESTABLISHES MONETARY COMMITMENTS RELATED TO LOCAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS AND THE VICINITY OF PATTERSON AVENUE AND RIVER ROAD CONDITION. FOUR. RELATES TO THE OCCUPANCY PERMITS, WHICH I JUST SUMMARIZED ON THE PRIOR SLIDE. CONDITIONS FIVE AND SIX, ESTABLISH PEAK WATER USAGE LIMITS FOR THE PROPERTY AND REQUIREMENTS TO REPORT USAGE TO THE COUNTY UPON REQUEST. CONDITION SEVEN RELATES TO ENSURING FIRE SAFETY WITH REFERENCE TO A REQUIRED ONSITE WATER RESERVOIR FOR FIREFIGHTING PURPOSES. CONDITION EIGHT CLARIFIES THAT THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ESTABLISHES SEWERAGE LIMITS, WHICH MUST BE FOLLOWED AND REVIEWED ANNUALLY FOR COMPLIANCE BY, UM, BY THAT AGENCY. DEQ CONDITIONS NINE THROUGH 15 PROVIDE A RANGE OF DESIGN REQUIREMENTS RELATED TO BUILDINGS, PROPERTY ACCESS, LIGHTING, LANDSCAPING, PARTING PARKING, SOUND, AND NOISE, AND LIMITATIONS ON CONSTRUCTION HOURS. IN GENERAL, THESE CONDITIONS REQUIRE COMPLIANCE WITH THE MASTER PLAN REVIEWED EARLIER. AND FINALLY, CONDITION 15, EXCUSE ME, 16 REQUIRES THE PROPERTY OWNER TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY IN THE EVENT OF A PROPERTY, UH, TRANSFER OF OWNERSHIP RELEASE TO BRIEFLY TOUCH ON PUBLIC OUTREACH MILESTONES FOR THIS CASE, UH, THE APPLICANT HELD A COMMUNITY MEETING ON APRIL 30TH AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO EXPLAIN THE PROPOSAL ANSWER QUESTIONS. THE MEETING WAS ATTENDED BY FIVE CITIZENS AS WELL AS SUPERVISOR LYLE AND PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIR COSBY. QUESTIONS RAISED DURING THE MEETING RELATED TO UNDERSTANDING THE ADDITIONAL POP, HOW THE ADDITIONAL POPULATION WILL BE SERVED BY THE EXISTING ONSITE INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER AND SEPTIC CAPACITY, SEWERAGE CAPACITY, AND POTENTIAL IMPACTS ON ADJACENT NEIGHBORS FROM THE WASTEWATER SYSTEM. THE APPLICANT ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS DURING THE MEETING. THE PLANNING COMMISSION THEN HELD A PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 17TH OF THIS YEAR AND RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH A VOTE OF FOUR TO ZERO. ONE CITIZEN TESTIFIED IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSAL BOARD MEMBERS WILL NOTICE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO CONDITION FOUR IS SHOWN IN TWO COLORS, WHITE AND YELLOW, WHICH I'LL NOW EXPLAIN. AFTER THE PLANNING COMMISSIONED HEARING STAFF AND THE APPLICANT COLLECTIVELY IDENTIFIED AN OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER REVIEW AND, EXCUSE ME, FURTHER REVISE AND CLARIFY CONDITION FOUR TO EXEMPT OCCUPANCY LIMITS FOR CERTAIN TEMPORARY ACTIVITIES WHICH ARE INCIDENTAL AND SUBORDINATE TO THE USES APPROVED BY THE CONDITIONS OF THE PERMIT. THE APPLICANT AND THE STAFF JOINTLY DRAFTED THE LANGUAGE IN YELLOW SEEN ON THE SCREEN TO PROVIDE THE CLARIFICATION AND ADDED FLEXIBILITY FOR THE BUSINESS OPERATIONS. THIS WAS UNDERSTOOD AS AN ISSUE DURING, UH, THE CONVERSATION BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION. UM, HOWEVER, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERED AND VOTED ON THE PROPORTION OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IN WHITE, WHICH INCREASED THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY, BUT THE COMMISSION DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER THE YELLOW LANGUAGE, WHICH, WHICH WAS DIRECTED AFTER THE MEETING. UM, IT WAS DRAFTED AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING OCCURRED, AND IT'S INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE FOR THE BOARD CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. EXAMPLES OF RELEVANT TEMPORARY ACTIVITIES DISCUSSED, UM, COULD BE A SCHOOL RELATED SPORTING EVENT, GRADUATION CEREMONY, UH, A BRIEF PERIOD WHERE OCCUPANCY EXCEEDS 1500 PEOPLE. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THE PHRASE EXAMPLES, UM, QUOTE UNQUOTE EXAMPLES INCLUDED, BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO, WHICH IS INTENDED TO BE DESCRIPTIVE, DESCRIPTIVE OF ALLOWED TEMPORARY USES, BUT NOT TO PROHIBIT IT. SIMILAR USES. SO EXAMPLES OF ARE LIMITED, UM, BUT NOT LIMITED TO. AND THEN FINALLY, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS COMPLIED WITH THE COUNTY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WITH OR WITHOUT THE TEMPORARY USE CLARIFICATION AND CONDITION. FOUR. IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS FROM ME, I WOULD, UM, BE GLAD TO ANSWER 'EM AT THIS TIME. ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS FOR JOSH? OKAY. YEP. ALRIGHT. UM, THANK YOU MR. GILLESPIE. UM, JUST DOING WHAT WE WOULD CALL ENVELOPE MATH. THE, THE TOTAL INCREASE GIVEN THE CURRENT ALLOWANCES IS, IS ACTUALLY ABOUT A 565 INDIVIDUAL INCREASE. UM, AND THAT, AS YOU POINTED OUT, ARE STILL GONNA BE GUIDED OR, OR FOLLOWING, UH, NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH IS SEPTIC AND WATER, AND NUMBER 15, WHICH INCLUDES PARKING. SO IF PARKING AND SEPTIC AND WATER WILL NOT HANDLE THOSE FOLKS, THEN IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO INCREASE TO THAT. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ALLOWING THAT INCREASE PROVIDED IT CAN BE PROPERLY SERVICED AND, AND MAINTAINED. CORRECT. SO IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC THAT THEY GET TO HAVE ADDITIONAL PEOPLE THERE, BUT THEY CAN'T FLUSH THE TOILETS AND THEY CAN'T PARK. THEY, THEY, UH, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES. SO WE'RE PROTECTED. UH, THE COMMUNITY IS PROTECTED BY MAKING SURE THAT THOSE REQUIREMENTS ARE STILL IN PLACE. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT. 'CAUSE VERY GOOD. I'VE HAD PEOPLE SAY, WELL, WHAT ABOUT [04:40:01] THE, THE ADDITIONAL PARKING? AND WHAT ABOUT THE ISSUES WITH WATER AND SEPTIC? THANK YOU. YES, SIR. THE APPLICANT'S AGENT IS HERE. COLONEL GRAPES, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK, COLONEL? I'M SORRY. YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. OKAY. SHE, I KNOW I'M, I KNOW I'M GETTING TO IT. IT'S HERE IN CASE WE NEED IT. PRESENTATION, OR YOU HAVE NO, NO, THIS IS GOING TO THE NEXT ONE. THOSE ARE THE FULL CONDITIONS. SLOW REVEAL. YEAH, IT IS A SLOW REVEAL. THERE WE GO. ALL YOURS. GOOD EVENING SUPERVISORS. UH, GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN. UH, MY NAME IS JESSE GRAPES. FOR THE RECORD, I LIVE AT 3 2 2 RIVERSIDE COURT. 2 3 2 3 8 IN GLAND, UH, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO, UH, THE CAMPUS OF THE BENEDICTINE SCHOOLS OF RICHMOND. I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT. THE APPLICANT IS THE BENEDICTINE SOCIETY OF VIRGINIA, WHICH IS THE MONASTIC COMMUNITY THAT SPONSORS THE SCHOOLS. UH, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BENEDICTINE SCHOOLS OF RICHMOND, WHICH IS THE, THE, THE USE, UH, THE USER OF THE, THE MONASTIC, THE BENNINGTON SOCIETY OF VIRGINIA'S PROPERTY. UH, AND I DO NOT WORK FOR A DATA CENTER , UM, UH, HISTORICAL TIMELINE. I'LL KIND OF SKIP PAST THIS. WE, WE, WE'VE JUST HAD A NUMBER OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS HERE, UH, THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN IN FRONT OF, UH, THIS BOARD AND ITS PREDECESSORS, UH, THAT HAVE, HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED. AND I THINK THE REASON THEY HAVE BEEN SUPPORTED IS BECAUSE WE'RE PROVIDING A GOOD SERVICE, UH, FOR THE, THE COUNTY. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORS, UH, MANY OF THEM, REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS A DRUG AND ALCOHOL TREATMENT FACILITY, WHICH THOSE FACILITIES ARE NEEDED AND THEY'RE IMPORTANT. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THEY ARE, ARE PLEASED TO HAVE, UH, STUDENTS IN EDUCATIONAL FACILITY IN THEIR BACKYARD. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. UM, OKAY. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS THE, A PRIMARY DRIVER HERE IS THE SCHOOLS ARE DOING VERY WELL, UH, SINCE WE'VE MOVED TO GLAND COUNTY, UM, WHICH WAS IN 2011, THAT, THAT FIRST CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT ALLOWED THE BOYS SCHOOLS MOVE FROM THE MUSEUM DISTRICT. AND, AND THEN 10 YEARS LATER, OUR, OUR SISTER SCHOOL, ST. GERTRUDE, UH, TO DO THE SAME, YOU KNOW, SINCE ST. GERTRUDE MOVED OUT, WHICH WAS IN 2020, WE HAD 451 STUDENTS THIS PAST YEAR. WE HAD 543 STUDENTS. THIS NEXT YEAR WE'RE EXPECTING, UM, EVEN MORE THAN THAT, UH, AN OPENING DAY HERE IN, IN A, IN A FEW WEEKS. SO, UM, AND I THINK THAT SLIDE RIGHT THERE, THAT'S REAL NUMBERS, UM, THAT, THAT SHOWS YOU THE SCHOOLS ARE, ARE DOING WELL, RIGHT? PEOPLE ARE HAPPY. UH, PEOPLE ENJOY THE EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM AT THE SCHOOLS. UH, THE RELIGIOUS ASPECTS, THE LEADERSHIP ASPECTS, THE ACADEMIC ASPECTS, THE ATHLETIC ASPECTS. UH, IF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU DON'T GET MORE PEOPLE TO BUY WHAT YOU'RE SELLING. UH, SO, UH, ANYWAY, I THINK IT, THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. THE SCHOOLS ARE GROWING, WE'RE SERVING THE COUNTY. UH, AND, AND, UH, AND THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S GOOD FOR GLAND, UM, JUSTIFICATION. A LOT OF THIS WAS, WAS COVERED. UH, BUT THE STRENGTH OF OUR BRAND, UH, IN, IN SOME, UH, THROUGH SOME PATHWAYS, WE ARE THE GATEWAY TO GLAND, UM, EFFECT ON PROPERTY VALUES IN THE, IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. UH, AND THEN SUPPORT CAPABILITIES. SOME OF THOSE WERE ALREADY REFERENCED. UM, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU MIGHT BE FAMILIAR WITH. NET PROMOTER SCORE. IT'S A WAY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF BIG COMPANIES AROUND THE UNITED STATES USE THIS TO EVALUATE HOW THEY'RE DOING IN THEIR CUSTOMER'S EYES. WE DO IT AS WELL. UM, YOU KNOW, I WON'T, YOU KNOW, WON'T GO INTO THE WHOLE METHODOLOGY, BUT IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE. YOU KNOW, IN A WORD OF MOUTH CAMPAIGN, THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY LIKE YOU AND TELL OTHER PEOPLE TO BUY YOUR STUFF, UH, IF YOU SUBTRACT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY HATE YOU AND SAY, DON'T BUY THEIR STUFF, THAT, AND WHAT IS LEFT OVER IS YOUR NET PROMOTER SCORE. YOU, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SCORES OF REALLY GOOD COMPANIES, UH, WELL, COMPANIES THAT HAVE REALLY GOOD SCORES, , UH, STARBUCKS, AMAZON, APPLE, CHICK-FIL-A, UH, TARGET. YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD ALL THOSE COMPANIES IN ONE SHOPPING CENTER IN GLAND, IT WOULD BE THE MOST POPULAR SHOPPING CENTER. UH, YOU KNOW, AND WHO DOESN'T LIKE DUNKING DONUTS? AND THEY ONLY GET A 15? UH, BUT ALL SCORES IN GREEN ARE GOOD. THESE ARE OUR SCORES, RIGHT? WE PUBLISH THEM TO OUR FOLKS ANNUALLY. SO WE DO PRETTY WELL. UH, I MEAN, PEOPLE AGAIN, JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, BEATING THAT SAME DRUM. PEOPLE ARE HAPPY WITH THE, THE SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE, UH, THE EDUCATION THAT WE PROVIDE. AND, AND MORE AND MORE PEOPLE WANNA BE HERE EVERY YEAR. THAT'S A GOOD REFLECTION ON GLAND COUNTY. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD FOR KIND OF, UH, EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY IN GLAND COUNTY. UH, THE, THE, THE LARGEST GATEWAY TO GLAND. CERTAINLY THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS IN, RIGHT? THERE'S [04:45:01] PATTERSON AVENUE, THERE'S RIVER ROAD, UM, 2 88, YOU KNOW, ARGUABLY, UH, IS IS PROBABLY OUR, OUR MAIN ENTRY POINT, UH, IN TERMS OF VOLUME. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, COMING SOUTH, THE, THE ENTRY POINT KIND OF FOCUS IS DRIVE SHACK. I LOVE DRIVE SHACK, RIGHT? BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S BIG METAL POLES AND, AND, AND SCREENS COMING NORTH ON 2 88. THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE. UH, THAT'S ST. GERR HIGH SCHOOL. UH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THE NEIGHBORS ARE HAPPY, THIS RELATES TO PROPERTY VALUES. I'LL TOUCH ON THAT IN A MINUTE. WE'VE INVESTED IN $90 MILLION IN CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, ON THIS 50 ACRE CAMPUS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS. UH, I DOUBT OTHER THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, BIG BUSINESS, UH, THERE, THERE, THERE'S THAT KIND OF, UH, CAPITAL INVESTMENT IN SUCH A SMALL, UH, SMALL FOOTPRINT IN, IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY. SO, UH, AND WE'RE BUILDING BEAUTIFUL THINGS, RIGHT? YOU HEARD THE COMMENT EARLIER IN THE DATA CENTER, UH, DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDINGS. WENDELL IS BOXES, ALL THAT STUFF. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE BUILDING STUFF WITH REAL HISTORICAL, UH, DIGNITY THAT IF, IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, THAT'S SPANISH COLONIAL REVIVAL ARCHITECTURE. UH, IT'S BASED ON ROMANESQUE. LIKE THIS IS STUFF THAT THEY'VE BEEN BUILDING IN EUROPE SINCE, UH, YOU KNOW, SINCE BEFORE THE MIDDLE AGES. UH, AND WE'RE TRYING TO REPLICATE THAT TYPE OF DIGNITY. UH, AND, AND ALSO WE THINK THAT'S A GOOD REFLECTION FOR THE COUNTY PROPERTY VALUES. YOU KNOW, ALWAYS A QUESTION, RIGHT? WHAT IS YOUR EFFECT ON PROPERTY VALUES? YOU HEARD THAT DISCUSSED EARLIER. UH, SO HERE'S THE CASE IN POINT AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TO, TO PUT IT OUT THERE. SO I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, UH, WATCHING SPYING ON ONE OF MY NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY VALUES. THIS IS THE HOUSE I LIVE IN. UH, THIS IS THE HOUSE CLOSEST TO CAMPUS. UH, I DON'T, IT'S NOT MY HOUSE. THE SCHOOL OWNS THE HOUSE. I LIVE IN IT. UH, THIS IS ZILLOW, UH, DATED A, A MONTH OR SO AGO. UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE HOMES IN THE PEMBROKE FARM COMMUNITY AND THE PARTRIDGE HILL COMMUNITY, UH, AND THERE ARE OTHER NEIGHBORS, UM, THERE HAS BEEN A 52 TO 58% INCREASE IN THOSE PROPERTY VALUES SINCE JUNE OF 2020 WHEN ST. GERTRUDE MOVED TO, TO CAMPUS. AND WE STARTED THIS, UH, SIGNIFICANT RUN OF, OF CAPITAL INVESTMENT, RIGHT? WE'VE BEEN GOOD NEIGHBORS. I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S A, THAT'S A MASSIVE PROPERTY VALUE INCREASE. AND, BUT THESE HAVE BEEN GOOD YEARS. SO, TO BE FAIR, JUST SOME, SOME COMPARISON POINTS IN THE MEADOWS AND ASHWOOD, SIMILAR TYPE COMMUNITIES TO WHAT YOU FIND PEMBROKE FARM, PARTRIDGE HILL, IN TERMS OF HOME STRUCTURES. UH, THEY'VE ALSO INCREASED IN PROPERTY VALUE, BUT 30 TO 40% DURING THE SAME TIME PERIOD. SO YOU, YOU, YOU CAN'T SAY CAUSALITY, RIGHT? AND SAY THAT WE DIRECTLY CAUSED THAT ADDITIONAL INCREASE, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT WE'VE DIMINISHED PROPERTY VALUES, UH, IN, IN OUR LOCAL AREA, WHICH IS GOOD FOR GLAND AS WELL. IT'S GOOD FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS, IT'S GOOD FOR THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT, UH, VIA TAXES, UM, SUPPORT CAPABILITIES. THIS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER. UH, WHAT, WHAT YOU SEE THERE ON THE RIGHT, THIS ANSWERS THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE, THE SEWERAGE QUESTION. UH, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE, WE HAVE OUR OWN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT IS A MAY 1ST FIVE YEAR, UH, INSPECTION REPORT. SO IT GIVES US A FIVE YEAR CERTIFICATE TO OPERATE OUR OWN WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. UM, WHICH SUPPORTS MORE THAN ADEQUATE, UH, CAPABILITY, UH, FOR THE NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND WELL, MORE THAN ADEQUATE FOR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON CAMPUS. UH, OTHER, UH, SUPPORTS WATER. WE'RE ALLOTTED 20,000 GALLONS A DAY. WE'RE USING LESS THAN 4,000 GALLONS PER DAY, UH, WASTEWATER. UH, OUR PLANT IS A 15,000 GALLON PLANT. OUR USAGE IS LESS THAN 5,000 GALLONS PER DAY. UH, PARKING, WE MAINTAIN 624 PARKING SPACES, UH, ON A DAILY BASIS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 550 STUDENTS, UH, LESS THAN HALF OF THOSE DRIVE RIGHT TO, TO SCHOOL. SO YOU DO THE, DO THE MATH, RIGHT? 200, YOU KNOW, 60 STUDENTS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. DRIVE. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER A HUNDRED EMPLOYEES, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, SOON. THEY ALL DRIVE THEIR OWN CARS FOR THE MOST PART. AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAVE CLOSE TO 300 ADDITIONAL EMPTY PARKING SPACES ON CAMPUS TO ACCOMMODATE EVENTS AND, AND, AND OTHER THINGS. UM, THERE YOU GO. 310, UH, DAILY USAGE, UH, TRAFFIC. THERE WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY DONE, UH, ON THIS PROPERTY WHEN THE SCHOOLS, UH, MOVED OUT HERE. AND WE, UH, EVERYTHING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO BE DONE, WE, WE DID IT RIGHT. WE, WE, UH, LENGTHENED TURNING AND STACKING LANES ON RIVER ROAD. UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE INSTALLED THE, THE, THE CUR AND, AND, AND, UH, LANDSCAPING THAT WAS REQUIRED. UH, THE ONLY THINGS THAT, UH, WERE NOT, UH, RECOMMENDED BUT SAID COULD BE DONE WERE SIGNALIZATION OF PATTERSON RIVER AND PATTERSON AND PAGE BROOK. THOSE HAVEN'T BEEN DONE. BUT AT THE TIME, THE SCHOOL PUT UP A BOND, UH, FOR THE PATTERSON, I THINK IT WAS PATTERSON RIVER, AND SAID, IF THAT WAS DONE, YOU KNOW, WE PARTICIPATE IN, UH, IN THE EXPENSE OF THAT, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. UH, IN CONCLUSION, WE BELIEVE WE ARE GOOD FOR GOODLAND COUNTY. WE'VE DEMONSTRATED THAT, AND WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL LOOK KINDLY ON OUR REQUEST. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [04:50:02] THANK YOU, COLONEL GRAPES. ALRIGHT, NOW, OPEN CITIZEN COMMENT. UH, SEEING NONE, I WILL CLOSE IT. ALRIGHT, BOARD MEMBERS, ANY, DO I HAVE A MOTION? UH, YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I'LL MAKE A MOTION AND I GUESS WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSION, BUT I WOULD MOVE THAT, UH, THE BOARD APPROVED GRANT GRANT, THE BOARD GRANT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2 0 2 5 0 0 0 0 2, BENEDICTINE SOCIETY OF VIRGINIA, SUBJECT TO THE IMPOSED CONDITIONS AS PRESENTED. AND DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION. UH, CHARLIE, I WOULD JUST MAKE THE COMMENT THAT GULA NEEDS AS MANY PARTNERS, LIKE THE BENEDICTINE SCHOOLS AS WE CAN GET. UM, I WOULD ASK THE ONE QUESTION, I'VE ASKED IT TO YOU BEFORE, BUT I IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, UM, REPEATING THE ANSWER. THIS GIVES YOU THE, UM, CAPACITY, THE CAPACITY ALLOWANCES YOU NEED FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, CORRECT? IT DOES, YES. YOU DON'T. SO, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAN APPROPRIATELY AND GROW AS YOU SEE FIT. AND, UH, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN A GREAT, UH, PARTNER FOR THE COUNTY, SO WE WANNA KEEP THAT GOING. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. COLONEL GRAPES, UH, JUST, UH, WHY IS IT THAT ST. GERTRUDE'S HAS A 59 POSITIVE IN ST OR THE BENEDICTINE ONLY 49. SO IF YOU SEE THE, IF, WELL, IT'S IMPORTANT. IF YOU LOOK THE YEAR BEFORE ST. GERTRUDE WAS HIGHER, RIGHT? SO THESE THINGS FLUCTUATE. ALRIGHT. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I HONESTLY, I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS, UH, THIS PA THE PRIOR YEAR, SO NOT, UH, THIS LAST SCHOOL YEAR, 20 24, 20 25. BUT THE ONE PRIOR TO THAT, WE OPENED ST. GERTRUDE HIGH SCHOOL. AND SO, LIKE, THE GIRLS AND THEIR PARENTS WERE LIKE, AH, YOU KNOW, LIKE, THEY WERE SO STOKED, RIGHT? TO BE IN THEIR NEW FACILITY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG. UH, YOU KNOW, BUT WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DID YOU DO FOR ME YESTERDAY? SO THOSE CUSTOMER SATISFACTION SCORES CAME A LITTLE BIT BACK DOWN TO EARTH LAST YEAR, BUT STILL VERY POSITIVE. YEAH, I WOULD, I WOULD ITERATE. WHAT, UH, UH, SUPERVISOR VADER SAID IS THAT, UH, HAVING TOURED THE CAMPUS, AND YOU WERE VERY GENEROUS WITH YOUR TIME. UH, THE, THE, THE MISSION OF FOCUSING ON THE INDIVIDUAL AND ON A GROUNDING THAT PUTS PEOPLE AT THE CENTER OF, UH, WHAT THEY DO AFTER GRADUATION IS, IS ADMIRABLE. AND, AND I AGREE THAT MORE OF THAT WOULD MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE. UH, SO, UH, I, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT A FORMER MARINE. WELL, YOU'RE NEVER A FORMER MARINE. UH, NO. SO I CAN'T SAY, UH, EM FIVE, BUT I COULD SAY, RAH, UH, ARMY SUPPORTS THE MARINES IN THIS, UH, THIS INSTANCE, IF THAT'S OKAY. AMEN. SIMPLIFY. ANYONE ELSE? UH, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MIGHT BE FOR STAFF OR FOR, FOR THE APPLICANT. SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY MR. LYLE'S PREVIOUS QUESTION. SO I'M, UM, I, I DID GO TO PUBLIC SCHOOL, BUT I TOOK THAT BA PAPER MATH, AND WHAT I SAW WAS A 60% INCREASE POTENTIALLY IN OCCUPANCY. BUT, AND MY QUESTION WAS, WAS AROUND THE, UM, THE PARKING, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED PERCENT ABILITY TO INCREASE THAT FROM 300 TO 600. UM, BUT WHAT I WANT TO CLARIFY IS, MR. LYLE'S COMMENTS WITH STAFF AROUND, WELL, IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE WITH, AND THAT, AND WITH THE WATER, THAT IT WOULD BE ADDRESSED. MY QUESTION IS, HOW WOULD IT BE ADDRESSED AND HOW IS IT DETERMINED IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE? I UNDERSTAND, I FULLY BELIEVE THAT YOUR DONORS WON'T ALLOW IT TO BE AN UNTENABLE SITUATION, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, I WANNA CLARIFY HOW THAT ALL HAPPENS. 'CAUSE THAT'S NEWS TO ME. BUT BEFORE YOU ANSWER THE HOW, JOSH, I'LL JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE HISTORICAL CONTEXT ON HOW WE LANDED WHERE WE ARE WITH PARKING. UH, SO IN THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PROCESS, NOT THIS PROCESS FOR THE BUILDING OF, UH, ST. GERTRUDE HIGH SCHOOL, AND ACTUALLY OUR GYMNASIUM, UH, WHICH WAS, UH, OPEN IN 2020, UM, WHAT WAS IMAGINED IS WHAT WAS THE MOST, UH, THE LARGEST, UH, EVENT THAT WOULD CREATE CARS, RIGHT? AND, AND SO THE, THE LARGEST EVENT WAS LOOKED AT AS LIKE, OKAY, WHAT FACILITY CAN HOLD THE MOST PEOPLE AND HOW WOULD IT DO THAT? AND IT'S ACTUALLY THE GYMNASIUM. YOU, YOU THINK OF A LARGE EVENT AS A, A FOOTBALL GAME, BUT IF YOU FILLED THE STANDS AND PUT CHAIRS ON EVERY SQUARE, YOU KNOW, FOOT ALMOST OF THE GYMNASIUM FLOOR, HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD THAT HOLD? THAT WAS THE COUNTY'S THE, UH, COUNTY STAFF'S KIND OF PLANNING RUBRIC. RUBRIC. AND THEN WE HAD TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE HAD ENOUGH PARKING TO SUPPORT THAT ACTIVITY, WHICH IS HOW WE LANDED ON THE CURRENT NUMBER OF, UH, PARKING SPACES. PERFECT. [04:55:01] SO GETTING BACK TO THE, IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE, WHAT, WHAT TRIGGERS THAT? IS IT US, THEM? SO FOR PARKING MM-HMM . SO THE, THE TRIGGER FOR THAT WOULD BE IF THEY'RE JUST MECHANICALLY, IF THEY WANTED TO MAKE CHANGES TO INDIVIDUAL STRUCTURES. OKAY. SO AS, UM, PRESIDENT GRAPES HAS SAID FOR THEM TO USE PARKING ON THE SITE, THEY'VE OVER, THEY'VE BASICALLY OVER PARKED IT FOR DAILY USE. IT'S BEEN, IT'S THE PARKING THAT'S BEEN DEVELOPED. MM-HMM . IS FOR THE USE OF THE GYM. SURE. SO THEY HAVE ALREADY ESSENTIALLY PROVIDED THE PARKING THAT THEY NEED. THERE IS ALSO OVERFLOW PARKING THAT'S AROUND THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEING USED IN EXCEPT EXCEPTIONAL CIRCUMSTANCES. SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF GETTING TO YOUR SECOND PART WHEN IT WOULD BECOME THE PROBLEM. THEY HAVE THE RELIEF VALVE ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY TO HAVE OVERFLOW PARKING AROUND DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY. SO THE PARKING ISSUE IS REALLY A NON-ISSUE AT THIS POINT, UNLESS THEY BUILD ANOTHER ST. GERTRUDE THAT'S VERY HIGH OR PERFECT, OR HAVE USES THAT GO BEYOND THE PARKING THAT'S ALREADY PROVIDED THAT GOT US THERE. GREAT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANYONE ELSE? WELL, I CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT THE SCHOOL. I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL AND EXCELLENT. UH, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND DR. REALLY? YOU WANT TO ROLL CALL, VOTE? SURE. MR. LYLE. YAY. MR. SPOON. HOWER. YES. MR. VOS? YES. AND MR. CHRISTIE? YES. CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU, NICK. NEXT ITEM IS, [3. Ordinance amending Goochland County Code Chapter 5 (Erosion and Stormwater Management Program), Secs. 5-2 (Definitions), 5-4 (Regulating land disturbing activities), 5-5 (Review and approval of plans; prohibitions), 5-7 (Stormwater permit requirement; exemptions), 5-16 (Enforcement; penalties, injunctions, and other legal actions), and 5-18 (Fees); and to amend Appendix C (Fee Schedule); these amendments are sought in order to increase the Erosion and Stormwater Management base, per acre/lot, and annual maintenance fees to account for staff time and to distinguish between fees for residential and non-residential projects, to add a reinspection fee, to remove the exemption for single family residential permits from the Responsible Land Disturber certification requirement, and to update and improve the wording and formatting.] UH, ORDINANCE AMENDING GLAND COUNTY CODE CHAPTER FIVE, EROSION AND STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. SECTIONS FIVE THROUGH TWO, DEFINITIONS FIVE THROUGH FOUR, REGULATING LAND DISTURBING ACTIVITIES, FIVE DASH FIVE REVIEW AND REP APPROVAL OF PLANS PROHIBITIONS FIVE DASH SEVEN STORMWATER PERMIT REQUIREMENTS EXEMPTIONS, FIVE DASH 16 ENFORCEMENT PENALTIES, INJUNCTIONS, AND OTHER LEGAL ACTIONS AND FIVE DASH 18 FEES. AND TO AMEND APPENDIX C FEE SCHEDULE, THESE AMENDMENTS ARE SOUGHT IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE EROSION AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT BASE PER ACRE LOT AND ANNUAL MAINTENANCE FEES TO ACCOUNT FOR STAFF TIME AND TO DISTINGUISH TWEEN FEES FOR RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS TO ADD A RE-INSPECTION FEE TO REMOVE THE EXEMPTION FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PERMITS FROM THE RESPONSIBLE LAND, UH, DIS DISTURBER CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENT. AND TO UPDATE AND IMPROVE THE WORDING AND FORMATTING IS THERE, OH. AND JOSH GILLESPIE WILL BE PRESENTING. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU, UH, CHAIR CHRISTIE. THIS, UH, RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CODE CHAPTERS AS YOU DESCRIBED, UM, MATERIALS IN YOUR PACKET. BEGIN ON PACKET, PAGE 1 45, UH, AND HAVE THE DETAIL. ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE ARE SEEKING TO DO IS TO GET CAUGHT UP TO THE CURRENT TIMES TO LOOK AT COST RECOVERY IN A WAY THAT'S MORE REALISTIC, UH, THAN THE FEES THAT HAVEN'T INCREASED FOR OVER A DECADE AND ADD REINSPECTION FEES, UH, THAT THAT IS BECOMING, UM, MORE OF AN ISSUE FOR US, AS WELL AS INCREASE THE FEES FOR MAINTENANCE OF, UH, FACILITIES THAT ARE, UM, ESSENTIALLY PERPETUAL TO STORMWATER PONDS. SO, UM, YOU HAVE SOME, UM, BACKGROUND MATERIAL THAT'S BEEN, UM, COLLECTED BY YOUR STAFF THAT'S NOT IN THE PACKET, BUT RELATES TO BENCHMARKING THAT WAS DONE IN OTHER, UH, WITH OTHER LOCALITIES AND OTHER PRACTICES. WE DID OUTREACH, UH, IN THIS CASE TO, UH, ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE HOME BUILDERS ASSOCIATION OF RICHMOND AND OTHERS, AND WE COLLECTED SOME FEEDBACK ON THAT. UM, WHERE WE ARE, UH, AS A STAFF TO RECOMMEND TO YOU IS THE, UH, THE, THE MATERIALS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, UM, HAVE, UH, ENCOUNTERED NO OPPOSITION THAT WE'RE AWARE OF THAT WOULD SUBSTANTIALLY CHANGE THE POSITION, UH, THAT WE RECOMMEND THIS CHANGE TO YOU. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, ABOUT THIS. ANY QUESTIONS? BOARD MEMBERS? UM, YOU STRESS? UH, YOU DID MENTION IT, BUT, UH, IF YOU HAVE THE DATE, WHEN WAS THE, WHEN WERE THESE FEES LAST ADJUSTED? I DON'T HAVE IT IN MY HEAD, BUT IT'LL TAKE JUST A SECOND. , I GUESS I'LL SAVE, WAS IT OVER A DECADE AGO? IT WAS OVER A DECADE AGO. I DID SAY THAT. THAT'S ALL. I WAS GONNA SAY 2015, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE INCORRECT, BUT YES, THAT'S GOOD. IT WAS, IT IS MORE THAN MORE THAN 10 YEARS. OKAY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. MR. MR. CHAIR. UH, MR. GLASBY, UH, WE ARE REMOVING THE EXEMPTION FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNIT, AND I'M ANTICIPATING THAT'S BECAUSE WE FOUND THAT THEY HAVE, UH, DEMANDS AND NEEDS FOR THOSE KIND OF INSPECTIONS AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE [05:00:01] THAT WE ARE KEEPING THE ENVIRONMENT, UH, SILT FREE AND, UH, NOT HAVING EROSION ISSUES. IS THAT THE REASON FOR THE EXEMPTION? UH, FOR THE ADDITION? UH, YES. WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE REMOVING THE EXEMPTION. I APOLOGIZE. NO, YEAH. A HUNDRED PERCENT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YES, CORRECT. OKAY. SO THIS WILL IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT. IDEALLY, UH, IT WILL ESTABLISH, IT WILL, IT WILL EXPAND OUR PROGRAM TO HELP IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT. YES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, JULY, 2015 WAS THE LAST TIME IT WAS CHANGED. I WAS PRETTY SURE IT WAS 10 YEARS. I JUST WANTED TO CHECK . ALRIGHT, WE WILL OPEN UP, UH, CI CITIZEN COMMENT AND SEEING NONE, WE WILL CLOSE THE COMMENT PERIOD. ALL RIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION, MR. MR. CHAIR? I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL FEES. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? I YOU GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. GILLESPIE, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. UM, I WOULD JUST STRESS THAT THIS IS BEING DONE TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR RESOURCES AS OPPOSED TO INCREASING FEES. UM, WE HAVE, WE BEAR COSTS AS A COUNTY. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE REGULARLY, UM, DO A STUDY OF THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALIGN WITH THE RESOURCES THAT ARE BEING ALLOCATED BY OUR STAFF AND, UM, BETTER ALLOCATE APPROPRIATE COSTS TO APPROPRIATE ACTIONS. SO, UM, AND I THINK COMPARABLES ANALYSIS, WHICH WAS DONE IN DETAIL IN THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FAIR RELATIVE TO NEIGHBORING AND, UH, OTHER LIKE-MINDED, UH, OR ALIKE, UH, MUNICIPALITIES. SO, UM, THIS IS, IT WAS VERY NICE TO SEE THE, UM, RESULTS OF THIS, UH, STUDY. AND I THINK IT, IT REALLY HAS TRIGGERED A DESIRE TO MAINTAIN THESE MORE THAN ONCE A DECADE SO THAT WE STAY IN LINE WITH, UH, THE COSTS WE'RE BEARING AS A COUNTY. YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I WOULD ITERATE WHAT, UH, SUPERVISOR VADER SAID IS THIS IS GOIN COUNTY IS NOT IN THE PROFIT MAKING ENVIRONMENT. THIS IS TO COVER COSTS. AND, UH, WE, WE CAN, UH, WISH THAT WE DIDN'T SEE INCREASING COSTS, AND SOME OF THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE STATE OR FEDERALLY MANDATED THAT WE HAVE A ENVIRONMENT, A EROSION SENTIMENT, UH, PROGRAM IN PLACE. UM, THERE IS A POINT, AND, AND I HAVE HEARD COMMENTS THAT WE MAKE IT TOO EXPENSIVE TO, UH, BUILD HOUSING IN, IN HOMES IN GLAND, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF INDEED WE HAVE TO DO INSPECTIONS, IF WE DO HAVE TO CERTIFY THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING PROBLEMS WHEN DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, SO SOMEBODY'S GOTTA PAY THE PIPER, AND I WOULD JUST AS SOON SEE IT BE THE INDIVIDUAL INCURRING THOSE COSTS, UH, COVER THEM. UH, MY ENCOURAGEMENT IS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS, AND IF WE FIND THERE'S MORE EFFICIENT WAYS, UM, EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE IS THE NEXT, UH, THING. AND IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN USE TECHNOLOGY TO ENSURE THAT THE ENVIRONMENT'S BEING, UH, ATTENDED TO, AND WE CAN LOWER COSTS, I WOULD NOT BE OPPOSED TO LOWERING THESE FEES IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S A LIFT FOR STAFF TO COME TO AND SAY, HEY, WE FOUND A WAY WHERE WE CAN LOWER THESE COSTS AND STILL ACCOMPLISH THE OUTCOME THAT I THINK, UH, THE CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO SEE. SO YOU GOT A NEW ASSIGNMENT, FIND OUT HOW WE CAN LOWER THESE COSTS, BUT STILL ACHIEVE THE GOALS. HOW'S THAT? VERY GOOD. UM, MISSION ACCEPTED. UH, THIS IS A FAIRLY, THIS IS A, THIS IS A FAIRLY MANUAL PROCESS AS YOU KNOW, AFTER IT RAINS, WE GO OUT AND LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT CAN BE, UH, SCORES OF SITES ACROSS THE COUNTY AT ANY GIVEN TIME. SO IT'S, IT IS HARD TO BRING A LOT OF TECHNOLOGY TO BEAR IN THAT, BUT PLAN READING IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, DESKTOP, PAPER, EXERCISE WHERE WE CAN DEFINITELY BRING COST SAVINGS TO BEAR THROUGH TECHNOLOGY. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UM, UNFORTUNATELY, I'M GONNA TAKE A LITTLE DIFFERENT TACT THAN MY, MY PEERS UP HERE. UM, I DO AGREE WITH PASSING COSTS ONTO THOSE THAT INCUR THEM. UM, BUT I'M, I'M A LITTLE SURPRISED THAT A CONSERVATIVE BOARD WOULD, AT EVERY SINGLE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE'VE HAD, WE'D TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE FEES, TO ADD MORE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT. AND THAT JUST DOESN'T, THAT JUST DOESN'T SIT WITH ME. WE'VE, WE, WE'VE BEGAN TO REQUIRE SOIL TESTS ON, ON STRUCTURES THAT WE KNOW HAVE NO SOIL ISSUES, UM, IN THE AREA BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE IT EASY JUST TO MAKE EVERYBODY DO IT. INSTEAD OF DOING IT WHERE WE HAD CONCERNS, UH, WE WERE REQUIRING G UH, DIGITAL GPS FOR THINGS THAT JUST QUITE FRANKLY AREN'T NECESSARY. OUR ACCESS MANAGEMENT [05:05:01] IS MAKING, UM, DEVELOPMENT OCCUR, UH, IN WAYS THAT WE DON'T INTEND AND HAS COMPLETELY INCREASED THE COST. AND NOW WE'RE SEEING, UH, CASE AFTER CASE COMING BEFORE US OR, YOU KNOW, UH, COMING UP OF, WE JUST DON'T DISAGREE WITH THESE TURN LANES, ET CETERA. SO AT SOME POINT, UM, TAXPAYERS HAVE TO ASK, WELL, WHAT, WHAT IS THEIR MONEY GOING TOWARDS? AND I'VE, I'VE NOT SEEN ANY, ANY DATA, UH, THAT THIS WILL ACTUALLY HELP WITH OUR STAFFING ISSUES OR, UM, DO ANY, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA CREATE ADDITIONAL POSITIONS. IT'S JUST GONNA MAKE IT MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD. AND THAT'S THE DIRTY SECRET. THE MORE EXPENSIVE YOU BUILD, THAT'S ONE WAY TO KEEP IT RURAL. UM, AND IT DOESN'T, I I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S NOT A VERY WELL MANAGED WAY TO BOUND TO MANAGE GROWTH. THANK YOU. DR. LEY, YOU WANNA CALL A ROLL CALL VOTE? SURE. YES, SIR. WE'LL START WITH MR. LYLE. YAY. OKAY. MR. SPOON. HOWER NAY. MR. VAS? YES. AND MR. CHRISTIE? YES. ALL RIGHT. AND OUR LAST ITEM OF THE NIGHT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING COUNTY FEE SCHEDULE APPENDIX [4. Ordinance amending the County Fee Schedule, Appendix C to the County Code, to increase Plan of Development review fees and add a resubmittal review fee] C TO THE COUNTY CODE TO INCREASE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT, REVIEW FEES, AND ADD A RESUBMITTAL REVIEW FEE. AND PRESENTING IS AGAIN JOSH GILKEY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR CHRISTIE. UM, THIS, THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE, UH, TO THE PREVIOUS ITEM THAT YOU'VE HEARD IN THAT WE ARE LOOKING TO RECOVER COSTS TO, UH, GET COSTS BACK FOR A PROGRAM THAT GLIN IS CHOOSING TO RUN, WHICH IS A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM. UM, UNLIKE AS, UH, SUPERVISOR LYLE SAID, THE CLEAN THE CLEAN WATER ACT, UH, REQUIRES IMPLEMENTATION FROM THE FEDERAL LEVEL AT THE STATE LEVEL. AND, UH, BUT FOR GLAND COUNTY RUNNING ITS OWN EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROL PROGRAMS OR STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, THE STATE OF VIRGINIA WOULD STEP IN AND RUN THOSE PROGRAMS FOR US. UM, UNLIKE THAT PROGRAM, THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM IS A LOCAL PROGRAM THAT'S ADMINISTERED FOR LOCAL VALUES. UM, SO IN THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE, WE ARE AN OUTLIER, AND THAT WE DON'T CHARGE, UH, WE PRESENTLY DO NOT HAVE A FEE FOR RESUBMITTAL. AND THAT MEANS THAT, UM, THE FIRST TIME A FEE IS PAID IS THE LAST TIME A FEE IS PAID TO REVIEW A PLAN. AND IF THAT TAKES THREE OR FOUR REVIEW CYCLES, UH, WHICH CAN BE VERY TIME CONSUMING, AND, UH, SOMETIMES THE SAME ERRORS ARE MIS UH, REPEATED ON SUBSEQUENT, UH, SUBMITTALS STAFF TIME IS LOOKING AT THE SAME WORK AGAIN AND AGAIN. SO THIS ADDS A NEW FEE? YES. AND IT ADDS A FEE THAT FRANKLY IS, UM, APPROPRIATE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. UM, RELATED TO THE INCREASED FEES, UM, THIS, THIS, UH, HAS NOT CHANGED FOR, UH, MORE THAN 10 YEARS, AND I THINK IT'S 2012 OR 2009. I DON'T, I'M SORRY, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT DATE, BUT IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN 10 YEARS SINCE THESE FEES HAVE CHANGED. UM, WE DO ANTICIPATE, UM, RESUBMITTAL COMING IN, UM, AT LESSER FREQUENCY WHEN THERE'S SOME ESSENTIALLY ADVANTAGE OR INCENTIVE TO, TO GET IT RIGHT EARLIER IN THE PROCESS. AND, UH, THAT IS ALSO A JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS CHANGE IN FEES. SO WITH THAT SAID, IN THE PREVIOUS WORK THAT WAS DONE TO BENCHMARK, TO LOOK AT THE CHANGES IN THE CONSUMER PRICE, UH, CONSUMER PRICE INDEX AND INFLATION OVER TIME, UH, OVER MORE THAN 15 YEARS, STAFF RECOMMENDS, UH, TO THE BOARD THAT THIS FEE SCHEDULE BE ADJUSTED. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. YOU GO AHEAD. UM, I'M, I'M WORKING A LITTLE BIT FROM MEMORY, BUT WHEN STAFF PRESENTED TO THUS IN, IN TWO BY TWOS, THE PARETO PRINCIPLE, I THINK COMES INTO PLAY WHERE 80% OF THESE RE, RE RE RE REVIEWS ARE COMING FROM A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF LESS THAN 20% OF THE APPLICANTS. SO THE WORK THAT'S BEING INCURRED WITH THE RE, RE, RE, RE REVIEWS CORRECT. IS GOING TO BE BORN BY THOSE FOLKS WHO, FOR WHATEVER REASON, ON PURPOSE OR JUST BAD LUCK, DON'T SEEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THE SUBMISSION CORRECT. IS IS THAT A FAIR ASSESSMENT? YES, SIR. THAT'S FAIR. IT'S, IT'S DISPROPORTIONATE. YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LEARNING THE COUNTY REGULATIONS FOR THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE THEY'VE NOT DEVELOPED IN GLAND COUNTY BEFORE. THEY MAY NOT HAVE DESIGNED IN GLAND COUNTY BEFORE. AND WE, WE HELP THOSE FOLKS, AND THAT ACCOUNTS FOR A LITTLE BIT OF SOME REPEAT, UM, KIND OF PRACTICE, IF YOU WILL, TO GET IT, TO GET IT RIGHT. BUT NO, GENERALLY THERE ARE SOME, UM, PARETO PRINCIPLES IN PLAY AND, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO HELP PEOPLE, UM, BE SHARPER FASTER. MR. GOPI? NO, SURE. GO AHEAD, MR. GOPI. UM, COULD YOU JUST, SO COULD YOU REITERATE THAT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF, [05:10:01] THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE COMPARABLES ANALYSIS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE IN LINE OR BETTER THAN OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES AND, UH, OTHER LIKELY, UH, SIMILARLY SIZED, UH, COUNTIES? YES. YES. THIS IS NOT US GOING OUTSIDE THE ORDINARY IN BY ANY MEANS. YES, ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. UM, GLAND COUNTY IS, UH, UNIQUE IN MANY WAYS, IF WE LIKE TO SAY. WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF SPECIAL ASSETS THAT MAKE US UNIQUE. UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, ONE, UH, ONE ASSET THAT WE HAVE IS WE DO OPERATE OUR OWN EROSION SEDIMENT CONTROL AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PROGRAMS, WHICH TIE VERY NEATLY WITH OUR PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY HERE TO COMPARE OURSELVES TO SOME PLACES THAT DON'T HAVE SUCH A COORDINATED PROCESS. UM, SOME OF OUR OTHER, UM, RURAL LOCALITIES DON'T HAVE THE SAME PROCESSES THAT WE DO. UM, AND SO THEY HAVE TO DEPEND ON THOSE OUTSIDE AGENCIES FROM THE STATE DEQ IN PARTICULAR, TO, TO DO REVIEW. UM, BUT GENERALLY WE COMPARE OURSELVES WITH OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE REGION, BOTH LARGER, SMALLER, AND SIMILARLY SIZED AND SITUATED, WHICH WE DID. I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO, SO I'M NOT GONNA NAME NAMES BECAUSE THAT'S FINE. YES. , THAT'S BAD NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST? NO, UH, NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. UM, I WOULD ALSO ADD, UM, THAT WITH A PAY AS YOU GO MODEL, WHICH WE'VE LARGELY EMPLOYED HISTORICALLY, UM, AND A CIP PROGRAM, EX WELL EXCEEDING A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, UM, US BEING DILIGENT, BEING, UM, ENSURING THAT WE ARE COVERING COSTS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY AND NOT LEAVING MONEY ON THE TABLE, UM, IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. THAT'S HOW WE MAINTAIN FINANCIAL DISCIPLINE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE, UH, IN THE LONG TERM ABLE TO KEEP TAX RATES LOW AND, UH, FUND THE GROWTH NEEDS WE HAVE MOVING FORWARD. BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD SAY THAT IT, IF WE WERE, IF WE HAD NO CIP PROGRAM LIKE WE DO HAVE, WHICH INVOLVES MAINTAINING SERVICES AND, UH, PROVIDING NEW SERVICES FOR DETERIORATING UH, STRUCTURES, THEN IT WOULD BE FINE TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT, UM, THIS IS ANOTHER FEE. THIS IS GOVERNMENT OVERBURDEN, BUT, BUT THIS IS COLLECTION OF FEES THAT, UH, WE KNOW THERE ARE, UH, COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT POINT. VERY GOOD, SIR. UM, SO I, IF I'M UNFAMILIAR WITH THE COUNTY CODE AND, AND WHATNOT, AND I, PUTTING IN MY INITIAL APPLICATION, IS STAFF GONNA KIND OF ADVISE ME THAT, HEY, HAVE YOU GONE OVER, YOU KNOW, THE CODES THAT ARE RELEVANT, THERE IS A RESUBMITTAL FEE KIND OF, I GUESS A COURTESY WARNING OR, AND SOME ASSISTANCE TO WHERE THE MATERIAL IS. ABSOLUTELY. AND, AND I, YOU KNOW, I DID ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT. UM, YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT UP THE EXAMPLE OF PEOPLE WHO'VE NOT DONE WORK IN THIS COUNTY BEFORE, WHETHER THEY'RE FROM A DIFFERENT PART OF VIRGINIA OR A DIFFERENT PART OF THE COUNTRY. UM, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD PRE-APPLICATION SYSTEM WHERE WE, WE GET PEOPLE INTO THE ROOM, UH, WE CAN MEET VIRTUALLY FROM PEOPLE ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, OF COURSE, USING DIFFERENT TOOLS. AND, AND WE OFFER TO HAVE MULTIPLE PRE-APPLICATION MEETINGS WITH PEOPLE BEFORE THE ACTUAL PLAN IS SUBMITTED AND IT'S LIVE, AND WE'RE DOING A REVIEW. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE OFFER THAT TO PEOPLE BECAUSE IT USUALLY HELPS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE DRAFTING A TERM PAPER, YOU PROBABLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, ONE DRAFT, TWO DRAFTS, AND, AND THEN YOU KIND OF SAY, OH YEAH, THAT'S GREAT. I'M GONNA TURN THAT IN. SO, YES, 100% WE DO, UH, HELP PEOPLE ON THE PRE-APPLICATION STAGE OF THIS. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF THEY ASK FOR, UM, SOME ADVICE ABOUT HOW TO, UM, INSERT, UM, PARTICULAR ITEMS, UM, WITHOUT GETTING INTO DETAILS AND, AND THINGS THAT MIGHT BE IN A PLAN SET, WE'LL, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. WE WOULD MUCH RATHER HELP PEOPLE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A COMPLETE SET THAT MEETS THE CODE STANDARDS BEFORE WE HAVE TO TELL 'EM, YOU DON'T HAVE A COMPLETE CODE SET A PLAN SET, AND YOU HAVE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT CODE SECTION, YOU KNOW, 3 23 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ALRIGHT. AWESOME. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU, YOU SPARKED ANOTHER QUESTION AND I MENTIONED THE PATO PRINCIPLE 80 20 RULE. UH, WHAT PERCENT OF, UH, THESE ARE APPROVED WITH ONE READ THROUGH, HOW MANY RESUBMISSION ARE WE HAVING TO LOOK AT? UH, JUST, WE PROBABLY HAVE, UH, JAMIE COULD, COULD VERIFY IF YOU WANT, BUT I, I WOULD SAY LESS THAN 1% ARE GONNA PASS THE FIRST TIME. AND I'M SORRY, LESS THAN 1% WILL PASS THE FIRST TIME. CORRECT. AND I'M SORRY TO SAY THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT. YEP. HAVE WE IDENTIFIED, IS THERE A, A SORT OF LIKE FREQUENT FLYER OF THEY DON'T PASS BECAUSE THIS I WASN'T DOTTED OR THIS T WASN'T CROSSED. IS THERE A UNIFORMITY OF WHAT CAUSES THEM NOT TO PASS? UH, GENERALLY THERE IS SOME, [05:15:01] THERE IS SOME PART OF THE DESIGN THAT DOES NOT MEET THE STANDARD. SO WHEN ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS ARE HIRED, PART OF THEIR JOB IS TO DO A CODE ANALYSIS AND THE STORMWATER ENGINEER AND THE CIVIL ENGINEER WHO'S, WHO'S DOING SOME OTHER PARTS OF THE WORK NEED TO MAKE SURE THEIR WORK WORKS TOGETHER. UM, BUT WE HAVE MULTIPLE REVIEWERS THAT ARE CATCHING THINGS THAT MAY NOT MEET THE CODE SECTIONS, MIGHT MEET IT FOR ONE PART OF THE CODE, BUT DOESN'T MEET THE OTHER. SO THAT COMING TOGETHER USUALLY REQUIRES A SECOND REVIEW. YEAH, I MEAN, THIS HAS SPARKED A WHOLE CONCEPT OF THINKING. I WAS, I'M NOT SHY, I APOLOGIZE FOR LATE TO THE GAME, BUT IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN SAY, JUST LEARN FROM YOUR PEERS, THESE SEVEN AREAS OR THREE AREAS ARE GOING TO LIKELY RESOLVE IN NOT BEING APPROVED? CHECK YOUR WORK. I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME INSTRUCTIONS LIKE THAT IN THE CHECKLISTS. SO IN OUR SUBMITTAL CHECKLIST, WE HAVE SOME INSTRUCTIONS LIKE THAT PAY SPECIAL ATTENTION TO CERTAIN THINGS. AND IT'S STILL IS 99% NO ON THE FIRST GO RUN. IT'S NOT, NO. IT'S, UH, THESE THINGS NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE PLANS. WELL, YEAH, BUT WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THE COST OF THESE PEOPLE FOR THAT. AND, AND AGAIN, I MEAN, PUT YOUR BIG BOY PANTS ON, I GUESS, AND GET IT RIGHT. THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING IT ON THE BACK OF AN ENVELOPE. BUT I, I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING SURPRISED OR I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING RECOGNIZED THAT 99% OF THESE APPLICATIONS ARE NOT PASSING THE FIRST TIME. YEAH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, THAT GOT MY ATTENTION. YEAH. MR. CHAIRMAN. YES, DR. ROSE. YEAH, I, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO CONTINUALLY COLLABORATE WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY ON OPPORTUNITIES FOR EDUCATION THAT WILL ALLOW US TO HELP TO GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR SO THAT WE CAN HELP THEM HAVE A STRONGER SUBMISSION ON THE FRONT END. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE PRE-APPLICATION PROCESS. THERE IS LIKELY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BOLSTER THAT TOO AND PROVIDE MAYBE EVEN SOME MORE CLARITY IN THE CHECKLIST THAT WE DO USE, AND IDENTIFY SOME OF THOSE COMMON THEMES AND CREATE A CAMPAIGN WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE SOME OUTREACH TO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS OR THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE SO THAT WE CAN, UM, REDUCE SOME OF THOSE TRANSACTIONS BACK AND FORTH. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUALLY COLLABORATE TO MAKE THIS A BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU DR. LEY. UH, MR. SPOON. HOWER? YES. THANKS. SO I, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING. MR. GILLESPIE, IN THE, IN THE ORDINANCE ADDRESSING THE CHAIRMAN'S QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FIRST TIME OR SECOND TIME, THERE'S NO FEE UNTIL THE THIRD SUBMITTAL, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. THAT, YES, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO RESUBMITTAL FEE UNTIL THAT THIRD, THAT THIRD TIME. OKAY. THE, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS HAVE STAFF, UM, HAS STAFF A ASSESSED THE IMPACTS OF THIS WITH THE LEGISLATION THAT JUST PASSED. IT WAS THE, THE, UH, PROPOSED BILL BY DELEGATE OWEN, OWEN, OUR, OUR DELEGATE. UM, I UNDERSTAND IT WASN'T HIS BILL, BUT IT WAS THE EXACT BILL THAT SAYS, AFTER THE THIRD PLANS HAVE REVIEWED, THERE IS NO MORE PLAN REVIEW. IT JUST GETS APPROVED. SO HAVE WE AS, UH, HAVE WE ASSESSED THE IMPACTS OF THIS NEW LEGISLATION ON OUR, THIS ACTUAL ENTIRE PROGRAM? YES. YES, SIR. WE HAVE. AND WHAT ARE THE RESULTS OF THAT? UM, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, A, IT'S NOT AFTER THE THIRD REVIEW. UH, THERE ACTUALLY IS AN ESCALATION ESSENTIALLY THAT IT RUNS UP FROM A SUPERVISOR TO A MANAGER TO ESSENTIALLY THE DIRECTOR, UH, WHO HAS TO DO SUBSEQUENT REVIEWS. SO THEY HAVE TO SIGN OFF, UM, AND IT SHORTENS THE REVIEW TIMES IN THOSE CYCLES. SO THAT'S THE, UM, THAT'S THE DETAILS OF THAT, THAT LEGISLATION. UM, WE BELIEVE THAT HAVING A RESUBMITTAL FEE AFTER THIRD REVIEW JUST REMINDS PEOPLE, YOU'RE ON A CLOCK. WE'RE ON A CLOCK. UM, WE ALL WANT TO GET THE YES AND GET, MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE RELATED, BUT THE, THIS, THIS DOESN'T CHANGE THAT, UM, THAT STATUTORY REQUIREMENT AND THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENT DOESN'T CHANGE THE RESUBMITTAL FEE COST RECOVERY PREMISE. I'M NOT CONVINCED OF THAT. 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT THE, OKAY. I, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT AFTER THE THIRD REVIEW, IF IT WAS DENIED THREE TIMES, THEN IT DOESN'T GO, YOU'RE SAYING IT, IT JUST GETS ESCALATED AT THAT POINT. IT, IT SETS FORTH, UH, WE CAN PULL THE EXACT LANGUAGE UP, BUT BASICALLY IT SETS FORTH A, UM, A SCHEME IN WHICH IT GOES IN THE FINAL REVIEWS BY THE DIRECTOR'S OFFICE AND THE DIRECTOR HAS A, A VERY LIMITED TIME PERIOD TO REVIEW. OKAY. THE FINAL PLAN. OKAY. SO THAT'S THE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SET UP. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. WE HAVEN'T HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING YET. ALRIGHT. NO, ALL, SO I'LL HAVE SOME MORE COMMENTS AFTER, UH, JUST REAL QUICK TO SURE. PIGGYBACK OFF OF THAT. YEP. THAT LEGISLATION WOULD ADD COST TO THE COUNTY, CORRECT? YOU, YOU ARE NOW UNDER A TIME CRUNCH TO YES. I, I WOULD, UH, THE REASON I PAUSE A LITTLE BIT ON THE AD COST PART, IT, IT ADDS SOME TIME COST TO THE COUNTY AND THE TIME CRUNCH IS REALLY THE BIGGER ISSUE BECAUSE IF, IF [05:20:01] WE'RE IN THIRD AND FOURTH REVIEWS ON THINGS, WHICH AGAIN, WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THIRD AND FOURTH REVIEWS, BUT IF WE'RE IN THIRD AND FOURTH REVIEWS, SOME OF THOSE TIME CYCLES ARE REDUCING, WHICH MEANS, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE A FEW VERY SHORT TIME CYCLES, IT'S, IT'S REALLY GONNA PUT A CRUNCH ON STAFF. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE FOLKS AN INCENTIVE TO GET IT RIGHT, UM, AND COMPLETE, YOU KNOW, WHICH TAKES, WHICH MAY TAKE TWO REVIEWS, BUT GET IT RIGHT IN THOSE, THOSE FIRST TWO REVIEWS. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ALL RIGHT, I'LL OPEN, UH, ASSISTANT COMMENT AND SEEING NONE CLOSE THE COMMENT PERIOD. ALL RIGHT. BOARD, DO I HAVE A MOTION? UM, MR. MR. CHAIRMAN, I, UH, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD DENY THE ORDINANCE AMENDING COUNTY FEE SCHEDULE APPENDIX C TO THE COUNTY CODE TO INCREASE THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT REVIEW FEES, AND HAD A RESUBMITTAL REVIEW FEE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? UH, NO SECOND. DO I HAVE A, ANOTHER MOTION? UH, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE OF MENDING COUNTY FEE SCHEDULE APPENDIX C TO THE COUNTY CODE TO INCREASE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, REVIEW FEES, AND ADD A RESUBMITTAL REVIEW FEE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I WILL SECOND THAT AND, UH, WE'LL DISCUSS THAT. ALRIGHT, SO I'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. UH, LET'S HAVE SOME DISCUSSION. UM, MY, MY HEART IS WITH MR. SPOONER'S ORIGINAL MOTION, UH, BECAUSE I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT WE MAKE IT EASY AND IS LESS OF A BURDEN ON THE, UH, PERSON WHO WANTS TO DO BUSINESS IN THE COUNTY, DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR LAND AND PUT SOMETHING ON THEIR LAND THAT THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE. BUT THE, THE BUT WHERE THEY SAY EVERYTHING BEFORE THE BUT DOESN'T COUNT. UM, UH, WE ARE INCURRING COSTS AND WE DO HAVE A PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW. UH, WE HAVEN'T ADJUSTED THIS, UH, COST STRUCTURE FOR OVER 10 YEARS. AND, UH, THE FACT THAT THEY'D GET TWO BITES AT THE APPLE, IN OTHER WORDS, THIS FEE DOESN'T KICK IN UNTIL THE THIRD TIME. GIVES ME SOME SOLACE, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH 99% OF THE APPLICATIONS NOT PASSING THE FIRST TIME. IT'S LIKE MY YOUNGEST SON IN HIS DRIVING LICENSE, HE NEEDED THREE TIMES TO GET THAT. BUT, UM, THAT NOTWITHSTANDING, UH, THAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT THE COST BURDEN ON THE PERSON WHO EITHER BAD LUCK OR DELIBERATE, UH, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT MALFEASANCE, BUT NOT COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROCESS IS GONNA PAY THE FREIGHT, MAKES ME A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ADJUST THIS AND, AND SAY WE AREN'T GONNA HAVE THE FREQUENT FLYER COMING IN AND AS IT WAS PRESENTED IN TWO BY TWO IS GETTING STAFF TO DO THE WORK FOR 'EM. THAT, EH, I DON'T THINK THIS IS QUITE RIGHT, BUT STAFF IS PRETTY ACCOMMODATING. THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THESE CORRECTIONS FOR ME, AND SO I'LL KNOW WHAT TO DO AND I WON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY ENGINEER. UM, THERE, THERE ARE COSTS TO DO IT. WE, WE ARE A PUBLIC SERVICE, WE ARE SERVING THE PUBLIC, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, ALL OF THAT DOES GET PAID FOR BY TAX DOLLARS. AND I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THE PAYMENT IS MADE BY THE PERSON INCURRING THE COST. SO I'M, I'M GONNA RELUCTANTLY VOTE FOR THIS, BUT I, I HAVE, UH, APPRECIATED THE COUNTY, UH, ADMINISTRATOR'S COMMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA FIND A WAY TO GET THAT 99% TO ZERO THAT EVERYBODY PASSES THE FIRST TIME, UH, BECAUSE WE'VE MADE IT REALLY EASY AND CLEAR AS TO WELL, WHAT WE EXPECT WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN AND APPLIES FOR THIS. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO DEBATE MR. SPOON. HOW, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. MY PREVIOUS COMMENTS AROUND THE FEES STILL STANDS FROM THE LAST CASE, BUT, SO I WON'T REPEAT THEM FOR THE SAKE OF TIME. UM, I, I'M SORRY, BUT A 99% FAILURE RATE IS NOT A FAILURE RATE ON THE APPLICANTS. THIS IS A FAILURE ON YOUR PROCESS. SO TO ME, THAT'S LIKE WE'RE BAITING PEOPLE INTO FAILING. I KNOW A LOT OF BUILDERS, I KNOW A LOT OF DEVELOPERS, UM, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT THINGS DONE ON THEIR HOMES, UM, AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS. NONE OF THEM WANTS TO TAKE MORE TIME. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA SAY IT'S GONNA COST YOU MORE TO TAKE MORE TIME. AND THAT IS COMPLETELY OUTRAGEOUS IN MY, AND THAT, UH, SO FOR THAT, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. I THINK I, I I I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THE LEGISLATION THAT HAS GONE THROUGH IT THAT WE TRULY UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS, ESPECIALLY AS IT COMES TO TIME. I THINK I WOULD ALMOST ARGUE THAT IF THAT LEGISLATION PLAYS OUT THE WAY THAT IT COULD POTENTIALLY, WE MAY NEED TO INCREASE OUR FEES SIGNIFICANTLY MORE BECAUSE I [05:25:01] THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED MORE STAFF TO COVER SOME OF THESE, UH, INSPECTIONS. SO I WOULD SAY THAT PASSING THIS AT THIS TIME, WE'RE JUST GONNA BE REVISITING THIS IN A, IN A MONTH OR TWO OR ONCE THAT COMES TO FRUITION. MR. VAS? YEAH, I, WHAT I WOULD COMMENT ON THIS IS, UM, THE COMPARABLE ANALYSIS ON THIS WAS ASTOUNDING. IT WAS, GOOCHLAND HAS NOT TOUCHED THIS AND WE ARE SEEING ALL THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES NEIGHBORING AND LIKE, UM, HAVING RESUBMITTAL FEES. AND SO IT WAS A MATTER OF FAIRNESS. AND ARE WE IN LINE SINCE MAYBE THIS CAME TO ME JUST 'CAUSE BENEDICTINE SCHOOL WAS HERE, BUT LET'S THINK OF THIS AS THE GOOD STUDENT VERSUS THE BAD STUDENT. THE GOOD STUDENTS ARE GOING TO DO MULTIPLE DRAFTS. THEY'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THEIR SUBMISSION IS, IS PERC AS PRECISE AS POSSIBLE. THE BAD STUDENT, IF THEY KNOW THEY CAN TAKE THE EXAM OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND NOT SEE THINGS LIKE FEES FOR THE EXTRA WORK THEY'RE CAN DO IS GONNA TAKE THE TEST OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SO WE, WE HAD IN MANY WAYS, I I LOOK AT THE, UH, OTHER COUNTIES DOING THIS NOT AS MILKING FEES, BUT AS DOING THE RIGHT THING BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE IS A NEGATIVE ADVERSE EFFECT TO, UM, NOT HAVING A VERY SET AND DEFINED, UM, OUTCOME FOR OR PENALTY IN THIS CASE FOR NOT BEING FOCUSED AND MAKING SURE THAT INITIAL REVIEW IS DONE AS WELL AS POSSIBLE. AND ONE THING I'VE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE FROM THE DAYS IS I WANT TO BE ACCOMMODATING TO THE BEST PLAYERS. I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO SEE DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH IN THIS COUNTY DONE BY PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT GOOD PARTNERS TO GLAND COUNTY. SO THAT WOULD BE PEOPLE WHO ARE INCURRING, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT ARE GETTING TO MANY REFERRALS, UH, SORRY RESUBMITTAL THAT ARE TAKING UP INORDINATE AMOUNTS OF TIME FROM STAFF AND, UM, WE WANNA SEE THE GOOD PLAYERS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND THOSE ARE THE ONES IN MY OPINION, THAT LEARN THE PROCESS, WORK WITH US, AND TRY AND GET THOSE INITIAL SUBMISSIONS, UM, DONE THE RIGHT WAY. AND I I DO THINK KNOWING THAT THERE IS A STICK AND, UH, IN THIS SITUATION, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT IN THE CARROT AND STICK, UH, METHOD IS NOT A BAD THING. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. ONE HAS TO WONDER THOUGH, IF I KNOW THAT MY APPLICATION IS GONNA FAIL NO MATTER WHAT I DO, 99% OF THE TIME, WHY AM I GONNA SPEND THE TIME DOING IT? I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH, I I, THERE'S NO ARGUMENT WITH ME. LIKE THE BAD ACTORS, THE PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T DONE IT THE FIRST TIME SHOULD, YOU KNOW, BUT IF, BUT IF WE'RE NOT CHARGED TO DO THE THIRD TIME ANYWAY, GUESS WHAT? IT'S NOT GONNA GET BETTER TO THE THIRD TIME. SO MY POINT IS, I THINK WE SHOULD DENY THIS SO THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON THE REAL PROBLEM, WHICH IS PEOPLE CAN'T GET THROUGH OUR PROCESS AND, AND ALL WE'RE DOING IS JUST MAKING IT EASY. WE'RE GONNA SAY, ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS. THE CARROT, THE, THE, THE, THE STICK. WE SHOULD HAVE THE CARROT OF A PROCESS THAT PEOPLE CAN GET THROUGH IN A TIMELY AND EFFICIENT MANAGER. SO MANNER SO THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO SAYING THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT INC SENSE STAFF TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS OR GET US TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE, ARE, UM, GETTING APPROVED ON THE FIRST GO ROUND. IF 99 PER, IF I KNOW I'M NOT, I'M GOING TO FAIL. I'M NOT GONNA PUT THE, THE LEVEL OF EFFORT IN ON THOSE FIRST OR MAYBE EVEN SECOND APPLICATION. MR. MR. CHAIR, IF I, IF I MAY, THIS IS STAFF QUESTION. ACTUALLY, THE, THE 99% FIRST TIME FAILURE, UH, AGAIN, I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT HAVING GRASP THAT OR, OR ASK THAT QUESTION EARLIER. HOW MANY ARE REQUIRING THREE REVIEWS? WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S, HOW MANY MAKE IT ON THE SECOND TRY? SO, UH, DIRECTOR SHERRY'S PROBABLY BETTER ABLE TO CHARACTERIZE THAT. SO LET HER GIVE A, GIVE A SHOT AT THAT. THANK YOU. UH, MR. LYLE, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I WOULD GO WITH AROUND THREE SUBMISSIONS AS LIKE OUR AVERAGE, UM, AMOUNT OF TIMES THAT ARE REVIEWED. I MEAN, VERY RARELY, UH, DO WE HAVE 'EM GO WAY BEYOND THAT? SOMETIMES THEY DO, BUT I, I WOULD SAY THREE. WELL, WHEN I, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS THAT, AND I'M THINKING OF THE CPA EXAM. I MEAN, UH, SOME IN THE CPA EXAM, YOU, THERE'S FIVE PARTS TO IT AND YOU GOTTA PASS AT LEAST THREE THE FIRST TIME AND THEN YOU GO BACK AND YOU GOT A CHANCE TO PASS THE OTHER TWO. I, I'M CURIOUS, DO WE GO FROM 99 FAIL AND ON THE SECOND SUBMISSION, 97% OF THOSE PEOPLE PASS AND IT'S [05:30:01] ONLY 3% TO GET THE THREE. SO I'M GONNA ANSWER THAT QUESTION A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY AND SEE IF IT GETS US TO THE SAME SPOT. OTHERWISE I MIGHT BE WILLING. ALRIGHT, WELL LET ME MAKE IT EASY. OKAY, HOW MANY PEOPLE GET APPROVED ON THE SECOND SUBMISSION? I DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT ANSWER, BUT I DO KNOW, UM, FOR MOST CIRCUMSTANCES WE COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE, 10 COMMENTS THAT IN OUR COMMENT LETTER AND THEY COME BACK AND IT MIGHT ONLY BE TWO OR THREE, SO IT MIGHT REQUIRE THE NEXT ONE TO BE WOO, THE WINNER. YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES THERE ARE SMALLER, THE COMMENTS GENERALLY GET SMALLER, SO SOMETIMES THERE'S JUST BY THOSE FINAL ONES, THEY'RE JUST LITTLE ONES. SO IT REALLY JUST DEPENDS ON HOW GOOD THEY ARE AT THE SECOND LEVEL. SO WE TELL 'EM WHAT TO DO AND THEY DON'T DO IT. UM, I WOULD THINK THAT'S, UH, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT KIND OF AN OVERSIMPLIFICATION BECAUSE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE DEALING WITH ARE, ARE KIND OF COMPLICATED MATTERS, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT INVOLVES LIKE STORM WATER AND, AND THINGS ALONG THOSE LINES. UM, YEAH, WE DO TELL 'EM WHAT TO DO SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUESTIONS, WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN FOR QUESTIONS IN BETWEEN TIME, CLARITY, THAT KIND OF THING. BUT YEAH, I'M, I'M OKAY. UH, YOU DON'T NEED TO HEAR ME A MODE UP HERE OR THINK ALOUD. THAT'S NOT PRETTY. BUT I, I'M, I'M, I'M, I APPRECIATE MR. SPOONER'S COMMENTS 'CAUSE IT'S GOT ME CHEWING ON THIS. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. ALRIGHT, NOW MY COMMENTS, UM, THE WAY I SEE THIS IS, UM, THE, THE, THE LESS TIME SPENT ON ONE APPLICANT IS, UH, TIME THAT YOU CAN SPEND SERVING MORE APPLICANTS AND, AND WE ALL HAVE GOTTEN CALL AFTER CALL AND EMAIL AFTER EMAIL ABOUT, UH, WHAT'S THE HOLD UP AND PLANNING. UM, I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE 99% FAILURE RATE, I THINK THIS IS THE TOOL TO REDUCE THAT 99% FAILURE RATE. I THINK IT, IT MAY NOT MAKE IT PERFECT RIGHT OFF THE BAT, BUT I THINK WHEN YOU HAVE SKIN IN THE GAME, YOU ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO, UH, TAKE HEED TO AT LEAST THE, THE, THE FIRST RESUBMITTAL DENOTES. YOU MAY ASK QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, BE A LITTLE MORE ACCURATE. UH, AND TO YOUR POINT, MR. SPOON, HOWER, WE CAN STILL HAVE THIS AND EXPLORE, UM, OUR OPTIONS FOR THE PROCESS AS WELL. SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT. UM, ALRIGHT, SO JUST, YEAH. YES, MS, BUT THE FEE DOESN'T COME UNTIL THE THIRD, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA FIX THE FIRST TIME. YOU, YOU MAY FIX THE THIRD TIME UNDERST. I UNDERSTAND, BUT WE'RE NOT FIXING THE FIRST TIME. ALL RIGHT, SO WE'VE GOT A MOTION AND A SECOND. UH, DR. LEY, YOU WANNA CALL, UH, WE'LL CALL VOTE. UH, SO BOARD MEMBERS, JUST, JUST FOR CLARITY, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND TO PRE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE COUNTY FEE SCHEDULE AS PRESENTED. UH, SO MR. MR. LYLE? YAY. MR. SPOON. HOWER NAY. MR. VAS? YES. AND MR. CHRISTIE? YES. I, ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS OUTTA ORDER OR NOT, BUT, UH, IF YOU'RE INDULGE ME, I, I AM GOING TO ENCOURAGE STAFF AND, AND, UH, DR. RAYLEY TO, TO MOVE THIS UP THE POTHOLE LIST, IF YOU WILL. UH, THE 99 CENT, 99% FAILURE RATE IS, I, I'M, I'M GOBSMACKED. I MEAN, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW I MISSED THAT. THAT IS SUCH A, A AMAZING NUMBER THAT 99% OF THE PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING AN APPROVAL. I I, I HAVE TO CONCUR, MR. SPOON. I IS CORRECT THERE. THE, IT'S THE PROCESS. YEAH. IT, IT, WE, WE CAN'T HAVE 99% OF OUR APPLICANTS NOT KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IT JUST, JUST THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SHARE THAT . ALL RIGHT. SO, UH, WE WILL NOW ADJOURN. THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL ADJOURN TO THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2025 AS FOLLOW BOARD OF SUPERVISORS [XVIII. Adjournment] CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, CIP MEETING, UH, 12 NOON. CONFERENCE ROOM TWO 70. MEETING IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. REGULAR MEETING, AFTERNOON MEETING, UH, TIME TO BE DETERMINED. 6:00 PM PUBLIC HEARINGS, MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU EVERYONE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. OH, OH, BIG, RIGHT? YEAH. I'M THINKING, HOW ARE YOU? I'M THINKING BOTTLE FROM, UM, WHICH DID I HAVE CARRIES? THAT'S CRAZY. I JUST, YEAH. GOOD TO MEET YOU. YEAH, PLEASURE TO MEET YOU. AND YOUR NAME AGAIN, JACOB. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.