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I HEREBY CALL TO ORDER THE SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2025 MEETING OF THEON COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, MADAM COUNTY, UH, DEPUTY COUNTY MINISTER
AND, UH, KENNY SENDS HIS REGARDS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO A MEDICAL PROCEDURE, UH, HE CANNOT BE HERE AND WILL NOT BE ATTENDING ON ZOOM.
ALSO, UH, NEXT UP IS CITIZEN COMMENT, AND IF I COULD ASK ANYBODY WHO DESIRES TO COMMENT TO PLEASE STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS SO WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE RECORD.
AND, UH, PLEASE, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SO FORTH, SAY SOMETHING, PLEASE.
I'M LINDA MOORE, 2164 PROFIT ROAD, MANNEQUIN SA, VIRGINIA, DISTRICT FOUR.
FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT HERE TO WRITE
UM, I'M HERE TO, UH, TO TELL YOU, YOU ALL HAD DONE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL JOB WITH BEING TRANSPARENT WITH THE CITIZENS.
UM, I USED TO HAVE TO CHASE DOWN INFORMATION, BUT THANKS TO SARAH, I HAVE, ALL I'VE GOTTA DO IS TELL 'EM, SEND THEM THE LINK, AND TELL 'EM EXACTLY WHERE IT IS, AND THEY, UM, THEY CAN SEE FOR THEMSELVES.
IT SAVES A LOT OF US CITIZENS, AND ESPECIALLY IN OLDER CITIZENS IN DISTRICT FOUR WHO'VE BEEN THERE FOR, FOR 40 SOMETHING YEARS.
A LOT OF THE NEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE MOVED RECENTLY INTO THE COMMUNITY HAVE ONLY BEEN THERE, SOME OF 'EM AS LITTLE AS SIX MONTHS.
UM, THEY ARE, THEY ARE JUST FINDING OUT, YOU KNOW, THAT THINGS AREN'T EXACTLY THE WAY THEY HAD ANTICIPATED OR HOPED.
UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVEN'T, THE COUNTY HASN'T DONE A GOOD JOB OF DOING ZONING ORDINANCES AND THE, UH, COMP PLAN.
SO IT REALLY DOES, UM, UH, ME GOOD TO SAY THAT, THAT WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT OF TRANSPARENCY, AND ALL THEY'VE GOTTA DO IS INVEST A FEW MINUTES OF THEIR TIME TO LOOK AT THE BEAUTIFUL, UH, PAGE THAT, UH, I GUESS SARAH, YOU, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR AT WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM ON THAT.
YES, BUT THIS, IT'S, IT'S NOT LIKE IT WAS IN THE PAST.
I MEAN, I, I CAN TELL YOU THAT IT, IT IS COME A LONG WAY FROM 2015 WHEN, WHEN, WHEN WE STARTED WITH THE TECHNOLOGY BEING THAT IS, I'M HOPING, LIKE I SAID, WE WILL COME TO A AGREEMENT, UM, VERY SOON BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF US WHO THINK THAT WE ARE MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THIS, UH, TOD AND THE TZ.
WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE THINK IT'S, WE, IT IS GOOD.
I MEAN, I HAVE, I ONLY SPEAK TO PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HERE FOREVER,
I HOPE THAT, THAT THEY WILL ADOPT THAT FOR ALL COMMUNITY MEETINGS, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TO SOME PRETTY BAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS IN MY 11 YEARS, AND SOME, SOMETIMES I LEAVE WITH A HEADACHE.
AND WHAT, WHAT'S EVEN WORSE THAN MY HEADACHE IS THAT THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR QUESTIONS DOCUMENTED BECAUSE NOBODY COULD HEAR OVER THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF QUESTIONS BEING YELLED AT.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL YIELD MY TIME IF IT HAVEN'T LEFT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE VERY MUCH.
UH, ANY OTHER OF OUR DISTINGUISHED INDIVIDUALS HERE, UH, HEARING NONE, I'LL MOVE TO CLOSE.
FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE WITH THIS, UH, THAT I FEEL IT'S PROPER TO RECOGNIZE THE HONORABLE CHAIRMAN OF OUR BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, MR. TOM WINFREY.
SECOND THING IS, UNLESS THERE'S OBJECTION UNDER OTHER
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BUSINESS, I'M GOING TO ADD ON CHAIRMAN'S COMMENTS SO WE CAN, UH, HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR RECENT TRIP AND, UH, ASK, UH, JENNY TO ENJOIN WITH THAT, UH, TO THE COMPRESSOR STATION IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTY, 1436 HERMITAGE ROAD.UM, SO HEARING NO OBJECTIONS, WE WILL INCLUDE THAT.
NEXT IS, UH, THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE OR TABLE THE MINUTES REAL QUICK ABOUT, UM, IF I SOMETHING I NEED TO ADD IT INTO OTHER BUSINESS, PLEASE? UM, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE FOOD TRUCK POLICY.
I, I COMPLETELY, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
UNLESS THERE'S OBJECTION, WE WILL ALSO HAVE A DISCUSSION UNDER OTHER BUSINESS REGARDING THE, UH, FOOD TRUCK POLICY THAT, UH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO, UH, HELP THE STAFF ADDRESS DUE TO, UH, RESOURCE ALLOCATION.
WE'LL ADD THAT ALSO THEN UNDER OTHER BUSINESS.
UH, SO AGAIN, UH, BACK TO THE MINUTES.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, HEARING NO DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF MINUTES, PLEASE STATE AYE.
ANY, UH, OPPOSITION? ABSTENTIONS? HEARING NONE.
MOVING ON TO SCHEDULED MATTERS TREASURER'S REPORT.
UM,
GOT TWO OUTSTANDING CHECKS, AND I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TREASURER AT THIS TIME? FANTASTIC.
AND THEREFORE, WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO NEW BUSINESS UPDATE.
UH, YES, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING WAS THREE WEEKS AGO, UM,
I KNOW, UM, UH, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OTHER, UH, NEW BUSINESS UPDATE.
WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING A LOT ON THE TECHNOLOGY
I'LL BE HAPPY TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WAS GIVEN MONDAY NIGHT IF THE EDA SO DESIRES, IT'S UP TO YOU GUYS, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A, A QUICK RUN THROUGH OF THAT MEETING PRESENTATION.
UH, UH, UNTIL SARAH, EXCUSE ME, THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR ASKED ME BEFORE THE MEETING IF WE WANTED TO GO THROUGH THAT, AND I SAID, IT'S REALLY UP TO THE AUTHORITY.
UH, IT'S WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE IS.
I'VE SEEN IT, I'VE SEEN IT MULTIPLE TIMES.
WE SAW THE ORIGINAL, BUT WE DIDN'T, WE, THE UPDATE INCORPORATED CITIZEN COMMENTS THAT SHE PRESENTED ON MONDAY THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY, DID MAKE ANY CHANGE WHEN CITIZEN COMMENTS? YEAH.
WE HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCES BASED ON THE CITIZEN COMMENTS.
PERHAPS YOU COULD JUST ADDRESS THAT SINCE MONDAY.
NO, NOT SINCE MONDAY,
SO PERHAPS YOU COULD JUST ADDRESS YEAH, YEAH.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT, BECAUSE I THINK WHAT OCCURRED WAS THE CITIZEN COMMENT, UH, THAT CAME IN BEFORE THE MONEY MEETING MM-HMM
THAT THE STAFF THEN MADE CHANGES TO THAT.
SO I WILL, UM, GO THROUGH THE SLIDES.
SO THIS WAS THE COMMUNITY INPUT CARDS THAT WERE PROVIDED AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
THIS IS HOW WE, UM, TOOK COMMUNITY FEEDBACK.
SO EVERYONE WHO CAME IN RECEIVED ONE OF THESE CARDS AND A PEN, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO WRITE DOWN THEIR CONCERNS.
THEY WERE THEN BROUGHT FORWARD, AND THEN, UH, WE HAD AN HOUR DEDICATED TO THE MEETING FOR DR. BAILEY TO READ OFF THE QUESTIONS AND, AND THEN ANSWER THEM.
SO THAT'S HOW WE FORMATTED THE COMMUNITY MEETING.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.
YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT IT, IT'S ABOUT, UM, I WILL GET TO THE, THIS WAS, UH, THE HISTORY OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT, SHOWING HOW THE EAST END OF THE COUNTY HAS BEEN PLANNED FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
UH, WE WENT THROUGH WHY YOU NEED TO RECRUIT NEW BUSINESS INTO THE COUNTY.
UM, SOME OF THOSE STRATEGIES FOR SMART GROWTH THAT THE COUNTY HAS IMPLEMENTED OVER TIME.
AND, UM, THIS IS WHERE WE GET INTO MORE OF THE DETAILS REGARDING, UH, HOW MUCH CITIZEN INPUT WE'VE HEARD THUS FAR.
AND THIS WAS A SLIDE DETAILING SOME OF THE MAJOR THEMES, UH, THAT WE'VE HEARD COMING OUT OF SOME OF THE CITIZEN INPUT.
UM, WE'VE BEEN TAKING THAT INPUT IN FROM EMAILS, FROM COMMENT FORMS, PHONE CALLS, DR.
RAYLEY AND I HAVE, UM, GONE AND MET WITH READERS BRANCH, UM, ONE-ON-ONE AND MOSAIC NEIGHBORHOOD ONE-ON-ONE.
AND SO MOST, MOST OFTEN WE ARE HEARING NOISE.
UM, AND THEN BUFFER SETBACKS IN HEIGHT SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
UM, PROTECTION OF RURAL CHARACTER
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UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE CONCERNS AROUND BY RIGHT.DEVELOPMENT SCALE AND LOCATION OF THE TOD.
AND THEN TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC INPUT, SARAH, BY UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE DO THAT WERE THE CONCERNS THAT THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH.
AND, UM, HOW, UM, ELECTRICAL, UM, AND, UH, WOULD GET TO THE PROPERTIES AND THEN, UH, WATER RESOURCES AS DATA CENTERS COULD USE WATER.
AND WERE THE, WERE CONCERNS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR, UM, ELECTRICITY COSTS TO GO UP FOR CITIZEN RESIDENTS.
YEAH, WE HAVE HEARD THAT AS WELL.
THAT'S LIKE, BEEN A BIG, BIG ISSUE.
WAS IT AESTHETICS RELATED TO UTILITIES? NO.
I MEAN, THERE WAS CONCERN ABOUT IF TRANSMISSION WAS TO BE EXTENDED, WHERE, WHERE WOULD THAT THOSE TRANSMISSION LINES GO? THAT COULD GET INTO SOME AESTHETICS.
UM, SO THIS IS A CHART OUTLINING WHAT OUR INITIAL PROPOSED REQUIREMENTS WERE IN JULY.
AND THEN WHAT WE'VE REVISED TO, BUT I GO INTO DETAILS.
THIS IS MORE JUST A, A CHART TO KIND OF PUT IT UP THERE.
UM, SO THIS IS WHERE I DESCRIBED WHAT IS THE TOD, BUT, UH, YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN ALL OF THIS.
UM, THE FIRST NEW CHANGE IS, UH, THE ADDITION OF A UTILITY GENERATING STATION AND AN ENERGY STORAGE FACILITY AS A, BY RIGHT USE.
SO WE GOT INTO THAT, UM, UTILITY GENERATION.
A STATION IS LIMITED TO A SMALL MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTOR AND A GAS PEAKING PLANT.
BUT WE ARE ONLY LIMITING, WE ARE LIMITING WHERE THOSE USES ARE ALLOWED INSIDE THE TOD TO A VERY SMALL AREA.
SO IF THIS IS THE ENTIRE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT, THE ONLY AREA THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT ALLOWING THOSE USES IN IS IN THIS NORTHERN PORTION THAT'S ADJACENT TO THE, UM, ELECTRICAL LINES AND ADJACENT TO 64, UM, AND ADJACENT TO THE, TO THE LANDFILL.
SO IN ADDITION, THERE'S A 1500 FOOT BUFFER FROM ANY ALLY ZONED PROPERTY AND FROM THE COUNTY LINE THAT THESE ITEMS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO BE PLACED OR BUILT THERE.
AND SO IT'S ONLY THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THIS BLUE SHADED AREA THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE TYPES OF USES.
HOW BIG IS THAT BLUE AREA? IT IS AROUND A HUNDRED ACRES.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A BUILT IN SETBACK AND BUFFER OF 300 FOOT, UH, THAT'S NOT SHOWN IN THE BLUE.
SO IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE BRING IN THIS BLUE AREA TO A LITTLE BIT LESS WHEN YOU HAVE TO PUT INTO BUMPER.
SO WHAT, WHERE IS THAT IN RELATION TO, UH, LIKE ASHLAND ROAD? THIS IS ASHLAND ROAD.
SO ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 64, THAT'S PART, THAT'S STILL PART OF ONE, YEAH.
UM, SO THEN THE NEXT CHANGE WOULD BE THE ENERGY STORAGE, UM, WHICH WE ARE ALLOWING BY, RIGHT.
BUT AGAIN, IN ONLY VERY SMALL LIMITED AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THIS BLUE, WHAT THOSE AREAS ARE ARE 1500 FEET FROM ZONED RESIDENTIAL USES, AND WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF ROUTE 2 88 AND I 64.
SO REALLY JUST ALONG THIS, UH, 2 88 CORRIDOR AND THEN THE 64 CORRIDOR, 1500 FEET FROM A ZONED RESIDENTIAL, WE ARE REQUIRING A SITING AGREEMENT WITH THESE ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES.
UM, AND WE ARE REQUIRING THAT THE BATTERY TYPES BE LIMITED.
ALL BATTERY TYPES WILL BE ALLOWED EXCEPT LITHIUM ION BATTERY STORAGE IS LIMITED TO 20 MEGAWATTS.
IS THERE, UM, BUILT INTO THAT OR, OR THE STATE REGULATIONS, ADDITIONAL FIRE SUPPRESSION REQUIREMENTS FOR CYBER STORAGE? I'LL LET MR. JUST SLOAN TAKE THAT
YES, THERE ARE, UH, THE NATURAL FIRE STANDARDS PROTECTION AND IT SET, THE PROCEDURES DO REQUIRE THAT.
THE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THOUGH HAS BEEN WHETHER THAT'S ACCURATE, UH, ADEQUATE OR NOT MM-HMM
AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT REALLY BRINGS UP THE 20 MEGAWATT LIMITATION AS OPPOSED TO WHAT WAS PROPOSED HERE FOR SEVEN COUNTY.
SO I'M THINKING OF THE CHESTERFIELD THING AND HOW WE MAKE SURE THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN IS THIS EVER CAN BE.
AND, AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF THE WHOLE QUESTION OF LITHIUM ION VERSUS ALL THE OTHER BATTERY TYPES, BUT YES, IT, IT BY THE STANDARDS YOU HAVE TO, AND IT, IT'S REALLY, UM, UH, INDUSTRY STANDARDS
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AND FEDERAL STANDARDS.SO YES, IT, IT DOES PROTECT US.
UM, THE ACCESSORY USES HAVE REMAINED THE SAME, NO CHANGES THERE.
UM, AND WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO, TO NOTE THAT, UM, JUST BECAUSE THE USES BY RIGHT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT'S FREE FROM OVERSIGHT.
THERE'S STILL LOTS OF DIFFERENT ENTITIES THAT HAVE TO REGULATE AND WILL REGULATE THESE USES.
UM, THE DEVELOP THESE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UM, HAVE NOT CHANGED FROM OUR PREVIOUS, WE DID ADD, UM, I THINK A VERY HELPFUL IMAGE SO PEOPLE CAN KIND OF VISUALIZE WHAT, UH, A BUILDING WITH OUR ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS WOULD HAVE TO LOOK LIKE.
SO WE'RE ADDING THINGS LIKE VARIATIONS AND BUILDING HEIGHTS, UM, AND THEN BUILDING STEP BACKS AND RECESSES.
SO, UM, CHANGES IN MATERIALS AND PATTERNS, AND THEN FENESTRATIONS, SO THINGS LIKE THE WINDOWS.
SO WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING AT IT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET THIS JUST BIG BLANK WALL OF THE BUILDING, LIKE YOU SEE IN SOME OF THE DATA CENTERS.
IT'S GONNA ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE A, AN OFFICE BUILDING FROM, FROM THE OUTSIDE.
UM, AND THEN WE DID MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES TO, UM, THE NOISE PORTION.
WE ARE, WE DID NOT CHANGE THE DECIBEL LIMIT, UM, BUT WE DID CHANGE WHERE WITHIN AN ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL ZONED PROPERTY, THAT NOISE CAN BE MONITORED.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, AND WE ARE NOW LIMITING GENERATOR TESTING TO TWO HOURS PER DAY, BETWEEN 10:00 AM AND 5:00 PM AND THEN WE ALSO MADE SOME CHANGES TO, UM, WHEN A SOUND STUDY CAN BE REQUIRED.
SO A, UM, A SECOND SOUND STUDY IS NOW REQUIRED.
IT'S NOW THREE MONTHS AND OPERATION.
SO THE, A BUSINESS CAN BE OPERATIONAL FOR THREE MONTHS.
ANOTHER SOUND STUDY IS REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE MEETING THEIR REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY ENGINEER TO DURING THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT.
AND, AND THE FUL LEVELS THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING MM-HMM
ARE IN LINE WITH DATA CENTERS? THEY ARE, YES.
WE'VE DONE SOME BENCHMARKING AND THEY ARE IN LINE WITH OTHER LOCALITIES.
I WILL SAY THE CITIZENS HAVE REQUESTED LOWER DECIBEL LEVELS.
WE ARE EVALUATING WHAT THAT, THAT IMPACT COULD BE AND TO THE POTENTIAL MARKET, UM, AND LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THAT.
BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE ARE STILL RECOMMENDING 60 AND 65.
UM, AND AGAIN, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR CAN, UM, REQUEST UP TO FOUR.
IT WAS PREVIOUSLY THREE, SO NOW HE CAN REQUEST UP TO FOUR SOUND STUDIES, UM, ANNUALLY.
SO THIS IS A, JUST AN OVERVIEW OF EVERYTHING THAT WE CHANGED AND THE NOISE SECTION.
UM, AND THIS IS WHERE WE GET TO AND A LOT, UM, MORE CHANGES.
SO PREVIOUSLY WE JUST HAD A 200 FOOT SETBACK, REGARDLESS OF HEIGHT, REGARDLESS OF ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL OR AGRICULTURE.
SO NOW WE ARE REQUIRING SPECIFICALLY FOR DATA CENTER USE 250 VEGETATIVE BUFFER WITH A 300 FOOT SETBACK.
AND THEN, UM, IT STEPS UP FROM THERE.
IF YOU'RE ADJACENT TO AGRICULTURE, IT'S 200 FEET.
IF IT'S, UM, UNLESS IT'S A DATA CENTER AND THEN IT'S 300 FEET.
IF, IF YOU GO HIGHER THAN 60 FEET, YOU AUTOMATICALLY GET BUMPED TO A 500 FOOT SETBACK.
IF YOU GO HIGHER THAN 80 FEET, YOU AUTOMATICALLY GET BUMPED TO A 600 FOOT SETBACK.
UM, SO THAT WAS A HUGE CHANGE THAT WE DID MAKE THAT, UM, I THINK HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
AND SO THEN WE, WE DID THIS TO KIND OF DEMONSTRATE WHAT A HUNDRED FOOT WOULD LOOK LIKE ON A COLLECTOR ROAD.
SO THERE'D BE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ON HOCKET, ANYWHERE BETWEEN TWO TO 300 FOOT SETBACK, UH, BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
AND THEN IN BETWEEN COMMERCIAL OR ADJACENT TO INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES, IT WOULD BE 35 FOOT.
SO WE DON'T WANNA LIMIT USES BETWEEN EACH OTHER.
UM, AND THAT JUST REVIEWS, UH, THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE FROM JULY TILL NOW.
AND, UM, THIS DETAILS SOME OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PLANTING REQUIREMENTS, UM, THAT IF A BUFFER, THE BUFFER DOESN'T ALREADY EXIST, SAY IT'S AN OPEN FIELD, THEY WOULD HAVE TO PLANT THIS BUFFER UP TO A 250 FOOT BUFFER AT THIS, UH, NUMBER LINEAR, LINEAR FEET OF TREES AND SHRUBS.
SO, UM, IF ONE SPECIES OF TREES DIES OUT, THEN YOU ARE STILL KIND OF COVERED UNTIL
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THEY CAN COME IN AND, AND, AND REPLANT.UM, OR EVEN DURING THE DIFFERENT CHANGING SEASONS, IF LEAVES FALL OFF, THERE'S STILL EVERGREENS THAT ARE THERE.
I ALSO THINK THIS, THESE SLIDES WERE VERY HELPFUL AND UNDERSTANDING, UM, WHAT IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT NOW VERSUS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
SO ALLOWED BY, RIGHT NOW, UM, UNDER M1 ZONING IN WEST CREEK, THERE COULD BE A 60 FOOT TALL BUILDING AS LITTLE AS 50 FEET BUFFER BETWEEN A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
UM, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS, UH, ADDED PROTECTIONS IN THE TOD, WHERE NOW A 60 FOOT BUILDING WOULD BE FOR DATA CENTERS SEPARATED BY 250 FOOT BUFFER AND A 300 FOOT SETBACK.
SO IF I GO BACK, YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT, UH, WAY MORE PROTECTIONS FOR A RESIDENTIAL UNDER THE TOD.
UM, THIS IS, UM, A 60 FOOT TALL BUILDING SEPARATED BY 200 FEET.
THIS IS AN 80 FOOT TALL BUILDING, 200 FEET AND 500 FOOT SETBACK.
SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH FURTHER THAT WE'RE GETTING THERE.
AND THEN, UM, 120 FOOT TALL BUILDING, 200 FOOT BUFFER, AND A 600 FOOT SETBACK.
AND THEN SOME VISUALIZATION SHOWING THAT EVEN FROM 80 AND ONE 20, IF YOU'RE STANDING AT THE GROUND LEVEL, THOSE BUILDINGS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE SEEN, UH, FROM A GROUND LEVEL WITH THAT SETBACK AND BUFFER.
SO THE BUFFER START AT THE EDGE OF THE PARKING LOT.
IS IT BUFFER SETBACK OR SETBACK? BUFFER, RIGHT.
BUFFERS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE ENCROACHED UPON.
SETBACKS CAN HAVE PARKING LOTS AND, UM, LIKE STORMWATER FEATURES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS IN THEM.
SO SETBACK FROM THE BUILDING, BUILDING ITSELF HAS TO BE SET BUFFER.
UM, SO WE DID A BALLOON TEST, UM, THAT WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER 3RD TO, UM, TO, TO DEMONSTRATE HOW A, UM, UH, TO SEE IF YOU COULD SEE THE BUILDING HEIGHTS AT 60, 80 AND ONE 20 AT THOSE SETBACKS THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
AND WE DID IT FROM READER'S BRANCH, AND WE DID IT FROM MOSAIC.
AND SO I WENT THROUGH THESE PHOTOS SHOWING THAT YOU COULD NOT SEE THE BALLOON AT THESE SETBACKS.
UM, AND SO I WILL SKIP CLOSELY TO THE ONE.
SO WHAT AT READERS, IF YOU'RE ON COLLETTA PARKWAY, YOU COULD SEE THE DRONE THAT WAS HOLDING THE BALLOON, BUT THE DRONE WAS 50 FEET HIGHER THAN THE BALLOON.
THE DRONES AT ONE, UM, I GUESS ONE 70.
UM, IT'S
BI TERRACE HAS A VERY HIGH ELEVATION, AND SO YOU COULD SEE 120 FEET HIGH.
THIS WOULD BE LOOKING, UM, NORTHWEST, UM, SO YOU COULD SEE THAT BALLOON THERE.
AND THEN WE DID, BUT THESE TREES ARE GONNA GET BIGGER, SO YOU PROBABLY WON'T SEE THEM FOR LONG.
AND, UM, AND THEN AGAIN, ON THIS TERRA YOU COULD SEE, UM, SEE THE BALLOON AGAIN FROM THE DIFFERENT FLIGHTS, BUT THAT, THAT WAS THE ONLY PLACE THAT YOU COULD SEE IT.
UM, AND IT, UM, IN ADDITION, SOME OF THE ELEVATION, SO THE, THE BALLOON JUST WENT OUT BASED ON THE ELEVATION.
IT TOOK OFF FROM, IF YOU ACTUALLY GO OUT INTO THAT PROPERTY, THE ELEVATION DROPS OFF.
SO THE BUILDING IS NOT GONNA BE AT THE SAME ELEVATION AS THIS TERRACE.
SO CHANCES ARE YOU WOULDN'T SEE IT.
BUT WE COULDN'T, WE COULD NOT BE, WE COULDN'T VISUALIZE AND REPLICATE THAT WITH, WITH THE BALLOON.
UM, SO, UH, THEN I JUST GOT INTO THE DETAILS ABOUT REALLY HOW WEST CREEK HAS THE ABILITY TO DEVELOP BY RIGHT UNDER THEIR EXISTING ZONING, OR THEY CAN DEVELOP UNDER THE TOD ZONING.
AND, UM, THAT WE'VE TRIED TO PROVIDE ENOUGH INCENTIVES THAT THE, THAT A USER WOULD WANT TO COME IN AND DEVELOP USING THE TOD REGULATIONS AND NOT THE BUYRIGHT REGULATIONS.
UM, SO I WENT THROUGH THAT A LOT.
UH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT, UM, WHAT ALL THE REST OF THAT WAS ABOUT.
AND THEN I GOT INTO THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE, WHICH IS THE INCENTIVE PART, WHICH WE HAD NO CHANGES TO.
SO THAT'S A, A VERY HIGH LEVEL BRIEF OVERVIEW.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE GIVING THE SAME, ROUGHLY THE SAME PRESENTATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT THURSDAY.
AND I WILL SAY WE HAVE MOVED THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
WE WERE GONNA HOLD IT IN THE BOARD ROOM, BUT GIVEN THE, UH, NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT SHOWED UP AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING, WE'VE CHANGED IT TO THE GLAND HIGH SCHOOL.
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IN THE HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM, UM, AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, AND PROBABLY THERE FOR THE BOARD MEETING AGAIN, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL SEE HOW THAT GOES.SO HAS THERE BEEN ANY FEEDBACK ON THE ZONE TECHNOLOGY ZONE CLERK? NOT, NOT A LOT.
MOST OF IT HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON THE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THOSE STANDARDS.
DID, DID YOU GIVE A SENSE AFTER THE MEETING WAS OVER THAT PEOPLE WERE OKAY WITH, WITH WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO? AT THE MOST, THE COMING OUTTA THAT MEETING, WE'RE STILL HEARING A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT NOISE MM-HMM
AND A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE, UM, UH, ENERGY GENERATING STATIONS.
UM, UM, SO, UH, WE ARE ACTIVELY LOOKING AT WHAT WE CAN DO FOR, FOR THE NOISE TO, TO FIND THAT BALANCE BETWEEN PROTECTING THE CITIZENS AND STILL ALLOWING THE BUSINESS TO COME IN AND DO WHAT THEY CAN DO IN A NO-WIN ZONING.
UM, SO, UH, WE ARE DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD ON A PATH ON THAT.
UM, AND I DON'T, I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT THE UTILITY GENERATING STATIONS AND WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GO.
I'M HEARING THINGS IN THE NEWS LIKE, THEY'RE GONNA PUT IT IN MY BACKYARD.
IT'S NOWHERE NEAR READER'S BRANCH, IT'S NOWHERE NEAR MOSAIC.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE HITTING THAT HOME A LITTLE BIT, A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON THAT.
ONE, UM, I THINK YOU ALL DID A GOOD JOB, JEREMY, UH, UH, MAKING FOLKS AWARE THAT WE NEED TO BE ATTRACTIVE AND COMPETITIVE TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO WE CANNOT RENDER OURSELVES TO THE POINT WHERE NO ONE WILL WANT TO ESTABLISH A BUSINESS HERE.
SO WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE TRY TO DEVELOP THIS BALANCE WHERE WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO CITIZENS AS WELL AS, AS MAKE, YOU KNOW, NOT RENDERING OURSELVES AS TOTALLY, YOU KNOW, REPELLING TO, TO BUSINESS.
THE OTHER THING THAT I DON'T THINK WAS REALLY BROUGHT UP, AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, THE 28,000 IN HEAVENS OR RESIDENCE OF GLAND COUNTY, THAT I'M NOT SPEAKING IN THIS VENUE OF THIS FORM.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A COUPLE BLURRED OUTS IN THE AUDIENCE AND MOVE 'EM TO THE WESTERN PARK, YOU KNOW, MOVE, ESTABLISH THE, SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY, I'D LIKE TO SEE US PAY MORE ATTENTION TO, YOU KNOW, WHY DO WE, IT, IT IS A VERY STATED PUBLICLY, UH, STATED POSITION WHERE WE WANT TO KEEP 85% OF THIS COUNTY RURAL AND AGRARIAN, AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO ADHERE TO THAT UNTIL THE, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HAS CHANGED.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE, WE NEED TO USE THAT AS A, AS A PROCESS TO CHANGE IT IF IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
BUT UNTIL THAT POINT, WE, WE ARE COMMITTED TO STICK TO THAT, UM MM-HMM
SO THERE ARE MANY, MANY CITIZENS THAT, YOU KNOW, ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL AREAS OF THIS COUNTY THAT PERHAPS MAY OBJECT TO THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS.
SO, BUT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND COMMENT ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WHEN IT'S BEING CHANGED.
SO I, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT THE ONES THAT ARE BEING VOCAL AT THIS POINT, BUT WE, WE NEED TO RESPECT 'EM IN SOME FASHION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND UH, HONESTLY, THAT IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF MY TIME HAS LAID
UM, SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WHAT NIGHT IS THE PAD COMMISSION MEETING? IT IS NEXT THURSDAY.
IT USUALLY IS THE SIX, IT'S NOW AT SIX 30 BECAUSE THERE WAS A SCHOOL FUNCTION AND WHEN WE MOVED IT, WE NEED TO GIVE TIME FOR THOSE FOLKS TO, TO GET OUT AND FOR US TO GET IN
THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION AT THE, IT'S THE PLANNING COMMISSION FORMAL PRESENTATION.
IT'S THE WELL VOTE, IT'S THEIR VOTE.
THEY CAN, THEY CAN VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
THEY CAN VOTE TO RECOMMEND DENIAL, OR THEY CAN VOTE TO DEFER.
SO, UM, THEY WILL BE MAKING SOME TYPE OF ACTION AT THAT MEETING.
SO, AND THERE WILL BE CITIZEN COMMENT, UM, AS, AS STATED IN THEIR BYLAWS, CITIZENS ARE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES, THEY CAN YIELD THEIR TIME AND ALL THAT OTHER GOOD STUFF.
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SO SEE IF, IF THEY VOTE TO DO SOMETHING, THAT DECISION WOULD COME TO THE BOARD NOT UNTIL DECEMBER, NOVEMBER.BUT IF THEY DEFER, IT WON'T CORRECT IN NOVEMBER.
IF THEY ONLY IF THEY DO DEFER.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, DISCUSSIONS REGARDING DOD, TZ? HEARING NONE.
GOT SOME QUICK UPDATES FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT.
UM, SO FIRST ONE IS WE HAD FANTASTIC TURNOUT AT OUR BUSINESS ROUND TABLE WITH SECRETARY SRA.
I KNOW, UM, UH, MR. SLUM WAS THERE, AND MR. SLATE AND MR. WINFREY, THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING AND ATTENDING.
I GOT GOOD FEEDBACK FROM PLENTY OF BUSINESSES TODAY THAT REALLY ENJOYED BEING AT THE EVENT AND BEING ABLE TO TALK WITH SECRETARY S AND KIND OF GET SOME OF HIS INSIGHTS.
SO I WAS REALLY HAPPY WITH THAT EVENT AND TURNOUT.
UM, ON, ON OCTOBER 22ND, IT IS GOING TO BE A BUSINESS AND EDUCATION ROUNDTABLE WITH UCHIN COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS AT RESIDENCE INN THAT THEY JUST SENT OUT THE INVITE THIS WEEK.
SO I'LL SEND THAT INVITE OUT TO YOU GUYS.
IS THAT THE SAME EVENT? PARDON MY INTERRUPTION? IS THAT THE SAME EVENT WE BACK IN APRIL? THAT DR. WATSON, OR EXCUSE ME, BRUCE WATSON? YEAH, I CALL HIM DOC OR JUST BECAUSE, BUT UH, SO IT'S THE SAME EVENT, IT JUST COME AROUND? YEAH, THEY, UH, DO IT EITHER, UH, ONCE A YEAR, TWICE A YEAR.
THEY'RE DOING IT TWICE A YEAR.
UM, SO THAT, IT'S GONNA BE IN OCTOBER.
UM, THEY GOT, AND IT'S GONNA BE EXCITING, UH, DR. WATSON, THEY GOT ME DOING IT NOW.
MR. WATSON AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON A NEW ACADEMY, UM, AND CURRICULUM FOCUSED ON, UH, LOGISTICS AND MECHATRONICS AND ROBOTICS KIND OF TO ADDRESS THE GROWING LOGISTICS INDUSTRY IN THE REGION AS WELL AS ADVANCED MANUFACTURING AND EVERYTHING.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY ON THAT.
UM, AND WE'LL BE KIND OF DOING A LITTLE PRESENTATION ON, ON THAT AT, AT THAT EVENT.
SO, UM, I'LL SEND OUT INVITES TOMORROW WITH RSVP INFORMATION IF YOU WANNA BE ABLE TO ATTEND.
UM, UH, CHAMBER, THERE'S A CHAMBER NETWORKING EVENT THAT WE'RE PARTNERING ON SEPTEMBER 23RD AT BY SELLERS.
UM, WE TALKED WITH, UH, UH, COUNTY LEGAL AND THEY GAVE THE OKAY FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN TWO MEMBERS OF THE, UH, EDA TO ATTEND THOSE TYPE OF FUNCTIONS, UM, BECAUSE THEY ARE FOCUSED MORE ON, UH, CHAMBER NETWORK AND EVERYTHING AND NOT COUNT BUSINESS.
AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, FOIA RULES REQUIRE THAT MORE THAN THREE, UH, MEMBERS ARE IN A PLACE TALKING ABOUT COUNTY BUSINESS.
IT CONSTITUTES A MEETING AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADVERTISED.
BUT, UM, THIS TYPE OF MEETING IS GENERALLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND, UM, IT'S NOT AT EDA HELD MEETING, SO MORE THAN THREE CAN ATTEND, BUT YOU NEED TO BE CAREFUL TO NOT CONGREGATE IN GROUPS OF MORE THAN THREE, DISCUSS COUNTY BUSINESS IN MORE THAN THREE, OR HAVE OPEN PUBLIC Q AND A SESSIONS WITH MORE THAN THREE OF YOU.
UM, SO, BUT IF YOU ATTEND AND NETWORK TOGETHER, UM, WITH OTHER BUSINESSES, THAT'S FINE.
WHAT TIME IS THAT? UH, THE NETWORKING EVENT, IT'S GONNA BE FIVE O'CLOCK AT BIRD SELLERS ON THE 23RD.
I'LL SEND OUT INVITES TOMORROW WITH RSVP OR REGISTRATION INFORMATION.
HAS COUNSEL ISSUED A WRITTEN DOCUMENT ON THAT OR IS IT, UH, IT WAS ISSUED TO ME.
I WILL ASK IF I CAN PROVIDE IT TO YOU, IT'D BE GREAT, OR I CAN POINT IT
IT IS ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE.
AS LONG AS IT'S WITH THE, THE BALANCE, BUT I UNDERSTAND.
NO, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL YEAH.
TO UNDERSTAND THE EXACT INTENT, ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE THINGS WE MIGHT WANT TO DO MOVING FORWARD.
BUT I THANK YOU FOR GETTING THAT IN THE FIRST PLACE.
OR ATTAINING, EXCUSE ME, PLACE.
WHALE AND I HAVE BEEN GOING OUT ON BRE VISITS TOGETHER TO INTRODUCE 'EM TO SOME OF OUR BUSINESSES, LARGER BUSINESSES IN THE COUNTY.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE VISITED CAP CAPITAL ONE ON MONDAY.
WE WERE AT FARM BUREAU YESTERDAY, TODAY WE WERE AT SHELTER SHELTERING ARMS LAST WEEK.
WE WERE AT CARMAX, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO.
AVERY POINT, UM, DID I SAY FOND BUREAU YESTERDAY? SO, UH, YEAH, IT'S BEEN A BUSY TIME KIND OF GOING OUTING WITH THOSE BUSINESSES.
A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TOD AND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE AND WANT TO SEE WEST CREEK CONTINUE TO GROW AND KIND OF CONTINUE TO GROW AND CONTINUE TO BE MORE BUSINESS FRIENDLY.
UM, SO THOSE HAVE BEEN REALLY GOOD.
UH, THIS PAST MONDAY WE STARTED, I, I STARTED OUR, UH, INDUSTRIAL PARK WALKTHROUGH.
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AT MIDPOINT INDUSTRIAL PARK ON MONDAY.UM, STOPPED BY AND MET WITH, UH, FIVE BUSINESSES IN, IN THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK.
THERE'S SEVEN IN THERE RIGHT NOW.
UM, TWO OF THEM DON'T REALLY OPERATE MORE LAY DOWN THE YARDS, BUT THERE'S SEVEN BUSINESSES MET WITH THE FIVE THAT ARE MORE ACTIVE THROUGHOUT THERE.
UM, HAD SOME GOOD DISCUSSIONS.
ALWAYS GOOD TO GET OUT OUT THERE AND TALK WITH THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS, KIND OF SEE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND, AND EVERYTHING.
AND SO THOSE BUSINESS WALKS WILL BE CONTINUED THROUGH THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
UM, THE NEXT ONE WON'T BE FOR TWO WEEKS.
THEY'LL BE AT THE HOUSTON INDUSTRIAL PARK.
UM, AND THEN I'LL HAVE ONE ONCE A WEEK UNTIL THE END OF, OR MIDDLE OF OCTOBER.
UM, AND, UM, FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL INDUSTRIAL PARK WALKS, I WILL BE BRINGING, UM, PARTNERS OF MINE.
SO I USUALLY HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM BDP THERE TO TALK ABOUT BDP PROGRAMS THAT, UH, OUR INDUSTRIAL PARK BUSINESSES CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE.
AND I'M ALSO DOING SOMETHING NEW THIS YEAR.
I'M BRINGING OVER SOME OF MY COUNTERPARTS AT VIRGINIA CAREER WORKS, WHICH IS MY MAJOR WORKFORCE PARTNER WHO, UM, HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT GRANT PROGRAMS TO HELP TRAIN AND RECRUIT WORKERS FOR BUSINESSES.
UM, AND SINCE THAT'S USUALLY A TOP DISCUSSION, ESPECIALLY IN OUR INDUSTRIAL PARKS AND OUR BLUE COLLAR BUSINESSES, I FIGURED, UM, INSTEAD OF ME, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO CHASE 'EM AROUND, CONNECT 'EM AND GET THEM TO RESPOND AND EVERYTHING, JUST BRING THE PERSON RIGHT WITH ME AND HAVE 'EM, UH, THERE TO HAVE BEFORE THE DISCUSSION.
UM, SO THOSE WILL BE CONTINUED THROUGH THE END OF OCTOBER.
AND, UH, I KNOW THERE'S MORE, BUT THAT'S EVERYTHING I HAVE ON MY LIST FOR TONIGHT.
MIDPOINT COMPOSITION NOW, WHAT, WHAT BUSINESSES ARE IN THERE OR THAT, THAT HAS CHANGED THAT, IS IT STILL THE SAME RELATIVE, SAME RELATIVE BUSINESSES? ONE BUSINESS LEFT, BUT THEY EXPANDED.
IT WAS A, UH, A SMALLER CAR DEALERSHIP.
THEY EXPANDED AND ARE NOW ON TWO 50.
UM, UH, THEY'RE THE OLD, I THINK OILVILLE AUTO SERVICE CENTER.
THEY'RE NOW, IT'S CALLED DJK AUTO.
SO HE HAD BEEN LOOKING TO GET OUT FOR A FEW YEARS, UM, OUT OF MIDPOINT AND INTO A BETTER KIND OF VISIBILITY.
AND WHEN THAT CAME AVAILABLE, I WORKED WITH HIM TO MAKE SURE HIS ZONING AND EVERYTHING WAS GOOD FOR HIM TO GO THERE.
AND SO THAT WAS A SMOOTH TRANSITION.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS ONE EXPANSION IN THE PAST YEAR.
WE HAD A, A VERY NICE, UH, SMALL WELDING COMPANY, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DO A LOT OF REALLY COOL WORK.
UM, AND SO THEY WERE IN ONE BAY AND THEY ARE NOW IN TWO BAY.
UM, SO, UH, SOME GOOD BUSINESS ACTION BACK THERE.
SO, AND THERE'S SOME, UM, POTENTIAL PROJECTS WORKING ON FOR THAT AREA TOO, SO HOPEFULLY, FINGERS CROSSED.
WHAT ABOUT THE ANIMAL HARVESTING FACILITY UP NORTH UP THERE? UH, I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY MAJOR UPDATES ON THAT LAST, I KNOW THEY WERE TRYING TO BE UP AND RUNNING BY SEPTEMBER, BUT I KNOW THEY WERE ALSO RUNNING INTO SOME HURDLES.
I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FURTHER.
I HAVE AN UPDATE INTERNAL HURDLES OR HURDLES INDUCED BY.
UM, THAT'S EVERYTHING FOR EXISTING BUSINESS, I THINK I HAVE.
ANY QUESTIONS ON EXISTING BUSINESS? OKAY.
HEARING NOW, WE'LL MOVE ON TO TOURISM UPDATE.
I'LL START WITH, UH, CONSIDERATION TO AWARD THE TODD'S LOGO GRANT.
SO, UH, TO BANDITS RIDGE, IF YOU, THERE'S A PACKET HERE THAT HAS ALL THE INFORMATION.
UM, AS YOU REMEMBER, THE TODD, THE LOGO AND FORD ORIENTED DIRECTIONAL SCIENCE GRANT PROGRAM WAS A PROGRAM WE STARTED THIS YEAR TO PROVIDE SOME, UM, FINANCIAL HELP TO OUR SMALL FORD BUSINESSES LOOKING TO UTILIZE BDOS DIRECTIONAL SIGNAGE.
IT IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE AND PROHIBITIVE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES WITH A SMALL MARKETING BUDGET.
UM, AND SO IF YOU GO THROUGH IT, UM, IT'S GOT ALL THE INFORMATION.
SO FOR THIS FIRST YEAR FOR THEM TO CONSTRUCT THE SIGNAGE, AND THEN FOR A PRORATED ANNUAL PERMIT RATE, IT'S GONNA COST THEM $2,187 AND 44 CENTS.
UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S VERY PROHIBITIVE FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.
AND I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVIZE 'EM TO GET, GET, GET A SIGN UP AND SEE IF IT WORKS.
AND IF IT WORKS, GREAT, THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE AN INCREASED REVENUE TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD.
AND IF IT DOESN'T WORK FOR, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN TELL ME THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA DO IT AGAIN.
I'LL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THEIR APPLICATION.
UM, WE WENT OVER THIS ONE PAGER LAST MONTH, BUT TONIGHT WE'LL BE CONSIDERING APPROVAL OF THE GRANT.
UM, THE APPLICATION IS RIGHT THROUGH HERE.
THEY EXPANDED THAT A WINERY, AS YOU REMEMBER, WE HAD A RIBBON CUTTING EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT MOST OF YOU ATTENDED.
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UM, I KNOW THEY, YEAH.UM, SO THEY'VE BEEN A BUSINESS IN GOEN FOR NINE YEARS.
UM, ORIGINALLY A WEDDING VENUE.
UM, THEY'VE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN EITHER THE LOGO OR TODD'S PROGRAM BEFORE.
SO THEY WERE ELIGIBLE, UM, THROUGH THAT.
AND THEY PUT SIGNAGE ON, I BELIEVE IT'S EXIT 1 52.
UM, THAT POINTS YOU OFF OF 64.
AND THEN I WAS ACTUALLY DRIVING BACK THERE.
I, ONCE I LEFT MIDPOINT, I WAS HEADING TOWARDS TWO 50 AND I SAW THE TRAILBLAZER SIGN THAT SAID BANDITS RIDGE THIS WAY.
UM, SO THAT WAS VERY EXCITING TO SEE.
UM, AND I KNOW TALKING WITH DONNA A. LITTLE BIT, THEY SEEMED REALLY GOOD, UM, RESULTS FROM IT ALREADY.
UM, THE FIRST, UH, UH, INVOICE THAT YOU GUYS SEE IS THE CONSTRUCTION INVOICE.
UH, OR WHICH ONE IS THIS? NO, THIS IS THE ANNUAL PERMIT INVOICE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S TYPICALLY $800, UH, FOR EACH TIME EACH WAY.
THAT'S NOT JUST FOR, THAT'S FOR EASTBOUND AND WESTBOUND PLUS $150 FOR A TRAILBLAZER SIGN, WHICH ARE THE SIGNS THAT POINT PEOPLE ONCE THEY GET
AND SO THEY PRORATED IT FOR HER SINCE SHE DIDN'T HAVE IT FOR THE FULL YEAR, BUT SHE SPENT, UH, $865 ON THE ANNUAL PERMIT FOR VDO.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND INVOICE, AS YOU SEE, IS THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS, UM, FOR, FOR THEM TO CONSTRUCT OR SIGN, WHICH WAS $1,322.
UM, AND THAT, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A PAID INVOICE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
AND THEN ON THE LAST PAGE IS THE PAYMENT FOR THE, UH, ANNUAL FEE.
AND SO THAT'S EVERYTHING THERE IS WITH THAT.
DONNA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JUST INVITING ME.
UH, CHANCE AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS.
UM, HE CAME OUT TO JUST SEE HOW THE WEDDING VENUE WAS GOING AND I SAID, WELL, THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO TAKE OUR NEXT, UH, KIND OF LEG.
AND SO IT WAS JUST, UM, HE'S BEEN ENCOURAGING, HE'S BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH.
AND WHEN HE STATED THAT THERE WAS A POSSIBLE GRANT, UM, OFFERED FOR THIS SIGN, I WAS LIKE, OH, YES.
I SAID, BECAUSE WE ARE OFF THE BEATEN PATH, PEOPLE WILL EVENTUALLY KNOW US, BUT I KNOW WE DID NEED TO GET ON 64.
SO I JUST RAN WITH IT GOING, OKAY, I HOPE I GET SOME MONEY, BUT YOU KNOW, I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE WANTING MONEY TOO.
UM, BUT WE WOULD LOVE TO, YOU KNOW, BE A PART OF THE GRANT PROCESS.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, WELL THANK YOU.
COMING TO FOR US WITH YOUR APPLICATION.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR FOR OUR STEVE ECONOMIC, UH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR? ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MESS UP? OR IS THERE A MOTION TO I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE LOGO AND TODD SIGNS GRANT FOR BEING THE TRENCH ALL.
WE'LL SECOND THAT AND IT WILL BE, SHE'S ELIGIBLE FOR THE FULL AMOUNT, WHICH IS A THOUSAND DOLLARS.
IS THERE ANY, ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION THAT'S, UH, BEEN PUT FORTH AND SECONDED? HEARING? NO DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION, PLEASE STATE AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS, IT PASSES.
PEOPLE ARE COMING TO YOUR EVENTS.
THEY'RE COMING TO THE WINERY, BUT THEY SEE THE VENUE AS WELL.
SO I'M BOOKING A LOT OF EVENTS AND, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME Y'ALL EVER WANNA DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW THE NUMBER.
THANK YOU GUYS, UH, FOR LISTENING TO THAT.
ONE, TOMORROW WE HAVE OUR VTC TOURISM WORKSHOP.
UM, WE HAVE SEVERAL BUSINESS PARTNERS COMING.
LISA WILL BE THERE TO REPRESENT THE EDA.
MR. LYLE WILL BE THERE TO REPRESENT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
UH, DONNA WILL ACTUALLY BE THERE TO REPRESENT INDUSTRY.
UM, SO WE WERE AWARDED DRIVE TOURISM GRANT EARLIER THIS YEAR.
AND SO WHAT IT DOES IS THEY PROVIDE US A BTC WORKSHOP WHERE THEY GOING TO LOOK AT KIND OF OUR TARGETED MARKET AND DO SOME TARGET MARKET ANALYSIS BASED OFF KIND OF WHO WE IDENTIFIED AS KIND OF OUR BEST MARKET, UM, IN OUR APPLICATION.
AND THEN A COMPETITOR ANALYSIS.
SO WE WERE ASKED TO IDENTIFY THREE COMPETITOR
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LIKE MARKETS.UM, SO DID SOME RESEARCH ON JUST DIFFERENT KIND OF, UH, TOWARDS DOES TOURISM DESTINATIONS TO MID-ATLANTIC IDENTIFIED THOSE THREE, UM, BASED OFF KIND OF SIMILAR, UH, UH, ASSETS THAT WE HAVE WHEN IT COMES TO TOURISM.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A $10,000 GRANT, UM, FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.
WE CAN USE IT FOR MARKETING, WE CAN USE IT FOR PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, SO I'VE GOT A FEW IDEAS RUNNING MY HEAD ON, ON WHAT TO USE THAT $10,000 FOR.
UM, BUT YEAH, SO WE'LL APPLY IT, UH, BY THE, I BELIEVE THE GRANT APPLICATION TO GET THE $10,000 IS, UM, END OF OCTOBER.
AND SO I'LL BE AFTER THE WORKSHOP KIND OF BRAINSTORMING SOME IDEAS.
I'VE ALREADY BEEN BRAINSTORMING SOME IDEAS ON HOW WE'RE GONNA USE THAT $10,000 TO JUST CONTINUE TO GO TOURISM, UM, IN THE COUNTY.
AND THE FINAL UPDATE IS THAT YESTERDAY, THE, UH, OR MONDAY VIRGINIA TOURISM EVERY YEAR DOES A, UH, IMPACT OF TOURISM ECONOMICS REPORT FOR LOCALITIES.
THEY DO IT FOR THE STATE THAT COMES OUT USUALLY AUGUST.
WE DON'T GET IT UNTIL, UM, EARLY SEPTEMBER.
SO THEY RELEASED IT YESTERDAY.
AND OUR TOTAL TOURISM IMPACT FOR, UH, OR NOT OCTOBER, OUR DIRECT SPENDING ECONOMIC IMPACT FOR TOURISM IN 2024 WAS $59 MILLION, WHICH WAS A 15.1% INCREASE SINCE, UH, 2023.
AND THEN OUR, OUR TOTAL DIRECT IMPACT, WHICH INCLUDES INDUCED AND INDIRECT IMPACTS, UM, WAS $102 MILLION.
UM, AND SUPPORTED, UH, 670 JOBS, UH, AND $3.3 MILLION IN LOCAL TAXES.
YOU MAY REMEMBER, UM, WE STARTED, REALLY STARTED OUR INITIATIVE AND DID A LOT OF DIGITAL MARKETING AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN 2023.
AND SO WE'VE SEEN THAT INCREDIBLY INCREASE BASED ON REALLY FOCUSING ON TOURISM.
SO, UH, AND THAT'S 20, 24 NUMBERS.
YEAH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS A YEAR BEHIND WHEN THEY DO IT, BUT I CAN'T, LIKE 15% INCREASE IS INCREDIBLE.
AND THEY USE, UM, THE STUDY DONE BY TOURISM AND ECONOMICS, WHICH IS A ECONOMICS FIRM THAT FOCUSES ON TOURISM ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDIES.
AND IT'S PREDOMINANTLY BASED ON SALES TAX AND OTHER REVENUES IS LOOKING AT SALES TAX CHANGE IN RATIOS.
SO THEY'LL, THEY DO, UH, THE CLASSIC ECONOMIC IMPACTING MODEL, WHICH IS BASED ON DIRECT IMPACTS, WHICH IS DIRECT SPENDING, EASIER TO TRACK, INDIRECT, AND THEN INDUCED THE, UH, IN, I'M GONNA GET THIS WRONG OR SOMETHING.
INDIRECT IMPACTS ARE THE BUSINESS TO BUSINESS, UH, THAT'S DONE, UH, BASED OFF THE INCREASED BUSINESS.
AND THEN INDUCED ARE THE ADDITIONAL IMPACTS FROM BUSINESS TO BUSINESS AND, UH, B2C INTERACTIONS WITHIN THAT.
UM, AND SO THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE IS A TRADITIONAL ECONOMIC IMPACT MODEL.
YEAH, I, AND IT IS, THEY DO IT FOR THE WHOLE STATE AND THEN THEY DO IT FOR EVERY LOCALITY.
SO I, I WOULD TRUST THEIR TOURISM ECONOMIC IMPACT MODEL AND IT'S DONE THE SAME WAY YEAH.
SO YOU WERE KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE EXACT SAME WAY EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
SO HOW DOES THAT PRETTY ACCURATE 15% INCREASE COMPARE ACROSS THE STATE? UH, WE WERE PRETTY, WE WERE BETTER THAN A LOT OF OTHER CENTRAL VIRGINIA.
UM, I CAN'T SPEAK OF ANYTHING OFF MY HEAD, BUT WE, WHEN I WAS JUST KIND OF TAKING A QUICK GLIMPSE, IT DID JUMP OFF THE CHART, UM, WHICH IS NICE.
WHERE CAN WE FIND THAT? UH, IF YOU GO TO VTC, UH, DOT ORG.COM, UH, ECONOMIC IMPACT REPORT, AND THEN YOU CAN, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT, SO THERE'S A DIRECT SPENDING SPREADSHEET AND THEN A INDUCED INDIRECT SPENDING SPREADSHEET, WHICH WILL HAVE THE TOTAL IMPACTS ON IT.
UM, LITERALLY AS YOU OPEN IT FIRST SHEET IS THAT YEAR.
UM, AND ACTUALLY THE FIRST PANEL IS CENTRAL VIRGINIA.
SO GETS, HITS YOU RIGHT IN THE HEAD.
AND THEN YOU CAN, IT GOES BACK BACK TO LIKE 2016.
SO I, I LOOKED LIKE LAST YEAR 20, OUR GROWTH FROM 2022 TO 2023 WAS AN 8% INCREASE.
UM, SO, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE REALLY GROWING OUR, OUR TOURISM MARKETING IS GETTING STRONGER.
UM, ACTUALLY WORKED WITH AN INFLUENCER TODAY WHO'S COMING OUT IN OCTOBER TO DO SOME INFLUENCING MARKETING FOR US.
UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, I WASN'T EXPECTING AS PART AS BEING AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPER WORKING WITH INFLUENCERS, BUT
UH, SO YOU, YOU CAN'T TEASE US AND TELL, NOT TELL US WHO IT IS.
UH, IT'S, IT'S A DOG INFLUENCER.
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UM, HE'S GOT OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOLLOWERS ON, UM, INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK COMBINED.
IT'S A LITTLE DOS AND CHIHUAHUA MIX WITH EARS THAT ARE LIKE BIGGER THAN ITS BODY.
SO, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE BASED OUT OF, UH, CHESTERFIELD ACTUALLY.
SO IT'S A LOCAL INFLUENCER TOO.
DID YOU SEE KURT RE'S POST ABOUT YEAH.
SO, UM, YEAH, THAT WAS NICE OF IT.
IN GENERAL, TOURISM IS, HAS BEEN GROWING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE NEXT YEAR'S REPORTS.
'CAUSE WHEN I'VE TALKED TO, YOU KNOW, TOURISM BUSINESSES, THEY HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT OF DECREASE IN TRAFFIC THIS YEAR, JUST WITH ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTIES AND EVERYTHING.
PEOPLE ARE KIND OF TIGHTENING PURSE STRINGS.
UM, BUT IT'S BUSINESS, BUSINESS.
SOME ARE, SOME OF MY TOURISM BUSINESSES KEEP SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BUSY AS EVER.
OTHER ONES ARE HAVE SLOWED DOWN A BIT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE JUST GONNA KEEP TRYING TO DO OUR BEST MARKETING 'EM AND GETTING PEOPLE OUT HERE TO, YOU KNOW, SPEND THEIR MONEY, SPEND TAX DOLLARS OUT HERE AND THEN GO HOME.
SO,
IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS BESIDES, UH, CHAIRMAN AND, UH, THE ISSUE WITH FOOD TRUCK? OKAY.
SO, UM, AS WE MENTIONED, UH, WELL FIRST OF ALL, I WAS AT THE, UH, MONDAY MEETING ALONG WITH, UH, COUNTLESS OTHER CITIZENS OF GLAND.
AND, AND AGAIN, I THINK, UH, DR.
RAIL AND, UH, OUR DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR DID A PHENOMENAL JOB, UH, IN TERMS OF HANDLING THE SIZE OF THE CROWD, THE DISPOSITION OF THE CROWD, AND ALL ANSWERS TO ALL THE QUESTIONS ALONG WITH THE PRESENTATION THAT SARAH STARTED OFF WITH.
SO, UM, I'M VERY HAPPY WHO WE HAVE IN OUR LEADERSHIP ROLES WITH REGARDS TO, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THEN ON, UH, FRIDAY, THE PREVIOUS FRIDAY, UH, AS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, WE, UH, SET UP AND THEN, UH, ATTENDED A, UH, MEETING FOR, LASTED JUST OVER AN HOUR.
WELL, SOME OF IT'S JUST OVER AN HOUR AT THE, UH, OSELAND COMPRESSOR STATION AT, UH, THE EAST END.
IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE HIDDEN THINGS THAT NOBODY EVEN KNOWS ABOUT IN THE COUNTY, BUT IT HAS A TREMENDOUS EFFECT, UH, NOT JUST ON OUR COUNTY, BUT, UH, COMMONWEALTH AND ALSO OUR NATION.
BECAUSE OF WHAT IT DOES, IT ACTUALLY INCREASES THE PRESSURE FROM THE LINES COMING IN FROM AS FAR SOUTH AS LOUISIANA, TEXAS, AND UP NORTH, UH, UP IN THE CANADA TO BRING, UH, GAS, UH, THROUGH, NOT ONLY TO THE CITY OF RICHMOND, BUT ALSO FOR THE ENTIRE TIDEWATER AREA.
AND, UM, IT'S A FACILITY THAT, UM, HAS, UH, AND BEEN HERE SINCE 1960S, WENT THROUGH A MAJOR REFURBISHMENT, AND THAT WAS COMPLETED IN 2023 AND VERY LARGE PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE ALL GAS FIRED EXCEPT FOR THE COMPRESSORS THEMSELVES, WHICH ARE ELECTRIC DRIVEN, WHICH, UH, THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY LOOK LIKE THEY ARE ECO-FRIENDLY BY USING ELECTRICITY, WHICH IS POWERED BY THEIR CAST
SO IT'S, IT'S KIND KIND OF A INTERESTING, BUT THE, A HUGE FACILITY IN TERMS OF THE MECHANICAL EQUIVALENTS THERE, UM, WITH STANDBY GENERATORS, UH, AND ALSO THE, UH, COMPRESSORS, THE CLEAN SYSTEMS FOR THE GAS.
BUT WHAT IT REALLY TRULY REPRESENTS IS A, IS A GOLD MINE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT IT HAS SO MUCH INTRINSIC POWER THERE.
AND WITH FIRM CONTRACTS THAT, LET'S SAY A POTENTIAL, UH, WEST CREEK OCCUPIER MIGHT, UH, WANT TO PICK UP WITHIN THE SYSTEM.
THERE'S PLENTY OF CAPACITY TO ENABLE GAS FIRED GENERATION FOR EITHER HEAT OR PROCESS WORK WITH AN INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING FACILITY OR ELECTRIC POWER.
UM, AND SO ONE OF MY, ONE OF MY DRAWBACKS IS I ALMOST WISH THAT MAYBE WE COULD SET UP ANOTHER TOUR SO YOU COULD SEE IT TOO, BECAUSE IT'S JUST, AND THE CONVERSATIONS, ESPECIALLY THE TWO GENTLEMEN THERE, UH, CEDRIC AND PETE, UM, WERE JUST FULL OF KNOWLEDGE IN TERMS OF WHAT CAPABILITIES THERE ARE THERE.
UM, IN FACT, THEY PROBABLY BROUGHT OUT AND SHOWED SOME THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE IN TERMS OF THEIR DIAGRAMS AND PIPELINE MAPS AND SO FORTH.
BUT WE'RE VERY RICH AND VERY FORTUNATE IN THAT, IN FACT, I'LL SUGGEST THAT THERE WAS ONE MEMBER OF OUR PARTY WITH US THAT, UH, HE, YOU COULD SEE THE LIGHT BULB LIGHT UP, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF POTENTIAL.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY WORDS TO SAY ABOUT IT.
I JUST THINK IT WAS REALLY AWESOME.
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I JUST THINK IT WAS REALLY A NEAT EXPERIENCE AND THE POTENTIAL, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S JUST AWESOME.IS IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO BRING IT UP ON THE MAP WHERE IT'S LOCATED? WELL, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FASCINATING THINGS ABOUT IT.
IF YOU BRING IT UP ON THE GSI AND GIS SYSTEM, UM, AND ACTUALLY USE A SATELLITE DISPLAYS PART OF IT, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT'S AN OLD CONFIGURATION OF THE FACILITY.
AND I THINK THAT'S PARTIALLY DUE TO SECURITY, UM, BECAUSE, UH, IT'S, IT'S A, UM, IT'S A TOP-NOTCH, I'LL SAY IT'S STATE OF ART TYPE PLANT.
I ALWAYS IMPRESSED BY HOW CLEAN IT WAS IN THERE.
I JUST
IF YOU WANT TO USE THE 9 1 1, IF IT'S WORKING, IT WAS DOWN EARLIER.
IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE GULF, PLEASE.
WHILE SHE'S DOING THAT, WOULD YOU SAY IT WOULD BE ALMOST THE EQUIVALENT OF A MAJOR POWER TRUNK LINE? OKAY.
UM, AS FAR AS ENERGY POTENTIAL, ABSOLUTELY.
IN FACT, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE HONORABLE CHAIRMAN WAS WITH US ALONG WITH, UH, BECAUSE IT IS IN THE FIFTH DISTRICT.
UM, JONATHAN, DISTRICT FIVE, UH, SUPERVISOR, JONATHAN LYLE WAS WITH US AND, AND, UH, IT'S ON
RALEY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR YEAH, RIGHT THERE.
SET AND CHANCE WAS ALSO, UH, WITH US ONE JENNY AND I.
SARAH WAS GOING TO BE THERE, BUT SHE HAD SOME MEETING COME UP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND DIDN'T YEAH.
YOU KNOW,
SO, UM, THAT'S GRAYED OUT GREEN DOWN.
THAT'S, THAT'S IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT WE SAW.
HOW GOOGLE YEAH, IT'S, SO THE GS ISN'T DIFFERENT VIEWS.
SO PART OF THAT ACTUALLY TO THE RIGHT IS THE RICHMOND GASWORKS THAT IS ON OUR PROPERTY OR WITHIN GLAND TWO.
SO IS IT IN WEST CREEK? NO, IT'S, IT'S ON HERMITAGE ROAD.
IF YOU, IF YOU TAKE THAT LITTLE DRIVEWAY RIGHT THERE, IT GOES PAST TWO HOMES, UH, RIGHT PARALLEL TO HUNTING RIDGE, WHICH IS A VERY NICE DEVELOPMENT SUBDIVISION.
DID IT GET LIKE A CUP TO BE THERE? OR HOW YES.
YEAH, IT WAS BEEN THERE LIKE 50 YEARS.
AND IT, IT'S A MAJOR, AND THE GAS LINE THEN RUNS, LET'S SEE WHERE IT IS.
YEAH, YOU CAN SEE THE GAS LINE BY THE, UM, AREA THERE.
SO DOES THAT HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO GIVE US POWER RATHER THAN CONNECTING TO DOMINION AND MM-HMM
AND SEE THE VIRGINIA CLEAN ENERGY ACT OF 2020 ACTUALLY PROMOTES THE CONCEPT OF BEHIND THE METER.
SO YOU CAN SET UP YOUR OWN MICROGRID WITHIN YOUR OWN SMALL DEVELOPMENT THAT ALLOWS YOU TO TAKE GAS AND THEN CREATE BASICALLY ELECTRICITY OR USE IT FOR PROCESS HEAT TO USE IN YOUR MANUFACTURING OR, OR WHATEVER THE SITUATION MIGHT BE.
UH, FOR EXAMPLE, ON IF, CAN YOU, SO IN, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE, BUT, UM, THERE'S, THAT'S, IS THAT THE, NO, THAT'S THE NEW ONE.
UM, IT'S HARD TO POINT OUT, BUT THAT WHITE, THAT ONE WHITE STRUCTURE KIND OF RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE ON THE FAR SIDE, UH, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER STRAIGHT UP FROM THERE.
THAT, THAT ONE? NO, NOT THAT ONE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE MICHIGAN CAST WORKS.
THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS ACTUALLY A GENERATOR.
AND IT'S, IT'S NOT A GAS TURBINE GENERATOR.
UH, ALL THEIR GENERATORS ARE RECIPROCAL, MEANING THAT THEY'RE LIKE, THEY'RE LIKE A, A REGULAR GAS, GAS ENGINE EXCEPT WITH PISTONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
THEY USE THOSE INSTEAD OF THE GAS TURBINES.
AND THERE'S A WHOLE SERIES OF REASONS WHY THEY DO COME TO FIND OUT.
BUT UM, YEAH, THIS IS THE MAIN, UH, COMPRESSOR BUILDING AND THERE'S ONLY TWO IN THERE.
AND THEY HAVE HUGE COMPRESSORS WITH ELECTRIC DRIVES AND THEN, UH, GAS AND A JACK UP RELATIVE IS QUIET, VERY QUIET.
AND I ASKED HOW THINGS ARE WITH THE NEIGHBORS, DO THEY FEEL ON COMPLAINTS? DO THEY HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW,
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AND THEY SAID, NO, IT'S GREAT.WE'LL TELL THEM IF WE HAVE SOMETHING MAJOR GOING ON.
CHAIRMAN, I STILL CERTAINLY GET ORIENTED IF I, IF I, I'M HEADING HOME, I'M GOING EAST ON UH, RIVER ROAD AND I'M GONNA MAKE A LEFT ON HER AND SHE GET TO MY HOUSE.
I'M IN THAT VICINITY WHEN I MAKE THAT LEFT.
IS THAT WHERE THAT IS? SO YOU'RE GONNA CALL HONEY, HONEY MANNEQUIN, RIGHT? YEAH.
OH, HERMITAGE COUNTRY CLUBS RIGHT HERE.
SO YOU JUST HEAD NORTH ON HERMITAGE AND IT'S BACK TO THE WEST.
SO WOULD IT BE LIKE YOU COULD BUILD A PIPELINE FROM THERE OR FROM THEIR PIPELINE TO POWER SOMETHING IN WEST CREEK AND THAT WOULD BE CHEAPER THAN GOING THROUGH DOMINION? ABSOLUTELY.
THEY SAID THEY HAVE TIE, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE TIE IN THING THEY WERE SAYING? YEAH, THERE'S ACTUALLY, THIS IS A MAJOR TIE IN POINT RIGHT HERE ON HOCKETT ROAD.
AND RIGHT HERE IS WHERE'S CAPITAL ONE? WHERE AM I? IT'S NOT FAR DOWN, FAR FARTHER DOWN HERE.
THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE A MAJOR LINE GOES THIS WAY.
AND IT GOES RIGHT ACROSS WHERE THE OLD EMERGENCY ROOM IS OVER HERE, AND THEN CONTINUES ACROSS THE SWAMP TO RICHMOND.
AND THAT PROVIDES, THAT'S THE RICHMOND GASWORKS COMPONENT THAT'S ALSO CALLED THE GAS.
AND THEN THERE'S A LINE THAT COMES RIGHT DOWN THROUGH, IS THIS IT HERE? YEAH, RIGHT DOWN THROUGH HERE IS THE BACK LAND ON THE BACKSIDE OF WEST CREEK.
SO WEST CREEK'S LITERALLY BUNDLED BY THESE LINES.
AND EITHER ONE OF THESE CAN, AND THERE'S OFF OFFSHOOT LINES, SOME GO TO THE KINLOCK, SOME GO OTHER PLACES.
SO ALL THESE LINES CAN BE TAPPED.
BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO ALTERNATE ROUTES.
UH, I MEAN, PETE SHOWED THE, I MEAN, IT'S PHENOMENAL WHAT THEY'VE GOT SET UP INFRASTRUCTURE WISE.
AND HE WAS LIKE, LIKE IT WAS NOTHING.
YEAH, WE CAN GO HERE, HERE, HERE, THIS.
AND I'M LIKE, THERE'S REALLY A POTENTIAL TO NOT INCREASE, UM, POWER COSTS FOR RESIDENTS IF, IF THEY DID GAS INSTEAD OF ELECTRIC, RIGHT? MM-HMM
AND ALSO JUST AS IMPORTANT, USE GAS BACKUP INSTEAD OF DIESEL BACKUP.
AND ALSO A LOT MORE POLLUTING.
AND ALSO HAS DIFFERENT PER MORE STRINGENT PERMITTING.
SO YEAH, IT'S A PHENOMENAL RESOURCE THAT WE CAN, UH, I THINK USE TO OUR BENEFIT IN SELLING WEST CREEK.
I MEAN, IT'D BE ADVANTAGEOUS MAYBE.
YOU AND, UH, MAYBE A COUPLE OTHER SUPERVISORS.
OH, IT WAS, IT WAS MY PLEASURE.
NO WE CAN HEAR, WE CAN BRING TOO.
I MEAN, IT, IT, AND, AND I WAS JUST GEEKING OUT, MAN.
AND, AND THEY HAD, THE PEOPLE THERE KNEW ALL THIS STUFF, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO YOU, YOU KNOW, SIX 50, IF WE GO TO SIX 80 AND THEN, AND THE 70 TO 100, I MEAN, IT IS, IT IS TOTAL.
I'LL ONLY GO IF YOU'RE GOING BACK BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S FY I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EXPEDITE SOME APPROVAL FOR THEM.
AND YES, I'VE ALREADY BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THEM.
WELL, YOU, YOU ASKED THE QUESTION AND THEN WE, I, THIS IS WHERE I WAS GOING ALSO.
WE, AND ALL THREE OF US STAYED AROUND A LITTLE BIT LONGER AND OH, DID YOU? MORE DEAF.
UM, ANYTHING ELSE? ANY, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? ANY, OKAY.
UM, SO NOW WE HAVE ALSO ADDED ONTO THE AGENDA, THE CONCEPT OF THE, UH, PLANNING, UH, LET'S SAY LOOKING AT THE ORDINANCE WITH REGARDS TO, UH, TRUCKS, FOOD TRUCKS.
WHAT, UH, WHAT DECISION? JENNY.
JENNY AND I DISCUSSED THE CURRENT FOOD TRUCK POLICY FOR, UM, GE COUNTY, WHICH THERE IS NO OFFICIAL WRITTEN POLICY OR ORDINANCE FOR, UM, LONG-TERM PARKING OF FOOD TRUCKS.
AND THERE'S A TRUCK THAT IS PARKED LONG TERM IN OUR COUNTY AT THE GAS STATION HERE, THE EXXON.
AND IT'S BEEN SOME CON, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONTENTION
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WITH, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS.UM, SO I WASN'T ABLE TO READ ALL THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU SENT TO ME BECAUSE I COULDN'T OPEN THOSE.
UM, WELL, YOU FORWARDED LIKE IN THE EMAIL.
WE COULDN'T OPEN IT, NEEDED A SPECIAL PROGRAM AND I COULDN'T GET IT TO OPEN EVEN WHEN I DOWNLOADED THE PROGRAM.
UM, BUT I MEAN, BASICALLY THEY, THEY SENT THE, THE GUY A LETTER AND HE, HE CAME, UM, HE WAS ABLE TO KIND OF FIX SOME OF THE THINGS TEMPORARILY.
BUT BASICALLY WHAT WHAT MOST COUNTIES DO IS THEY, THEY, THEY MAKE YOU, THEY DON'T LET YOU HAVE A LONG-TERM FOOD TRUCK IN ONE PLACE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT ON WHEELS, AND IT HAS TO MOVE AT, IT VARY.
IT VARIES BY COUNTY, BY LOCALITY, BUT LET'S JUST SAY YOU CAN BE THERE FOR A WEEK AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MOVE, AND YOU ALSO HAVE TO MOVE ALL YOUR TRASH CANS AND YOUR PORTA-POTTY AND YOUR
SO, UM, THERE ISN'T REALLY A POLICY.
THERE'S AN INTERNAL POLICY, BUT IT'S NOT, UM, TRANSPARENT TO THE PUBLIC.
AND, UM, I MEAN, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THAT THERE'S A, A HUGE NEED RIGHT NOW FOR PERMANENT FOOD TRUCKS.
UM, BUT THERE COULD BE, AND IT, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
SO THERE COULD BE A SITUATION WHERE THERE MAY BE A GOOD FIT FOR A FOOD TRUCK TO COME INTO A PLACE WHERE THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO A RESTAURANT AND THEY COULDN'T HAVE A RESTAURANT, BUT THEY COULD HAVE A LONG-TERM FOOD TRUCK THERE.
SO DO WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THAT KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? UM, I WOULD SAY YES, IT'S MUCH EASIER TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE ON WHEELS AND LEAVE IT PERMANENTLY THAN TO BUILD A BUILDING AND PUT IN A, UM, SEPTIC, AN ALTERNATIVE SEPTIC AT THAT, WHICH FOR A RESTAURANT COSTS A LOT MORE MONEY.
GOOGLE OR AI IS TO JUST HAVE IT, UM, KIND OF GO OUT AND SEARCH FOR OTHER RURAL LOCALITIES IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA TO SEE WHAT KIND OF TRANSPARENT ORDINANCES WERE ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.
UH, AND THEN DRAFT ONE FOR GLAND COUNTY THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PROGRESSIVE, BECAUSE I WANTED TO START WITH IT BEING PROGRESSIVE AND THEN BRING IT IF WE NEED IT, SHAVE IT DOWN RATHER THAN START HERE.
AND THEN WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, IF WE DO THIS, LET IT BE PROGRESSIVE AND THEN SHAVE IT DOWN IF WE NEED TO.
SO IT CAME UP WITH A DRAFT POLICY.
UM, SO THE COUNTY HAS ASKED US TO DO THIS.
'CAUSE APPARENTLY THEY JUST DON'T REALLY HAVE TIME.
NOBODY REALLY HAS TIME TO DO IT.
ALTHOUGH THIS ONLY TOOK ME ABOUT 10 MINUTES.
I CAN PROVIDE CONTEXT ON THAT.
SO I, I ASKED IF WE COULD DO IT.
SO, SO I MEAN, SO IT CAME UP WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, A PURPOSE OF ANY INTENT AND DEFINITIONS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT IS A, UH, A MOBILE FOOD UNIT? UM, WHAT IS A PERMANENT MOBILE FOOD UNIT? WHAT IS A CLUSTER? YOU KNOW, THERE'S MORE THAN ONE.
OR YOU MIGHT WANNA CALL THAT A FOOD TRUCK COURT.
UM, AND THEN WHO WOULD THE OWNER BE? WHO WOULD BE THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY? WHO WOULD BE THE HOST PARTY? AND THEN JUST TALKS ABOUT WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO AS FAR AS ZONING, UM, PERMITTING, UM, VDH, VIRGINIA DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, PERMITTING, WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR GRAY WATER, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THE, UM, SETBACKS, UM, SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU COMPLY WITH EVERYTHING TO MAKE IT FAIR TO THE OTHER BUSINESSES THAT DO HAVE TO COMPLY? SO THAT'S THE POLICY THAT IT CAME UP WITH.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S AN APPLICATION, UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A, UM, KIND OF A CHECKLIST, UM, FOR THE FOOD TRUCK THAT WOULD BE, UM, THEY JUST KIND OF HAVE TO GO DOWN THROUGH THIS CHECKLIST, UM, WHICH IS, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, YOU CAN'T SNAP YOUR FINGERS AND DO THIS.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO, UM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH, UM, WHAT DID I DO THERE? YOU'D HAVE TO COME UP WITH A MAP, UM, TO SHOW, TO SUBMIT WITH WHICH SHOWS, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOUR SEATING AREA IS, WHERE YOUR PARKING AREA IS, WHERE YOU COMPLY WITH A DA, WHERE YOU WOULD DISPOSE OF YOUR TRASH IN YOUR GREASE AND WHERE YOUR RESTROOMS WOULD BE, AND THEN KEEP A FIRE LANE AND THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, SO THIS IS A STARTING POINT.
SO WHAT I WILL, WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE IS TO DOING IS, UM, I CAN EMAIL THIS TO YOU GUYS AND YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH COUNTY OFFICIALS AND KIND OF JUST DISCUSS IT WITH THEM.
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CHANGES THEY MIGHT WANT TO MAKE OR HAVE THEM POINT OUT WHAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT ZONING.MAYBE THEY WANT TO ADD, UM, THAT DR.
AND, AND THEN COME BACK, UM, FOR THE NEXT TIME.
THE, THE ITEMS THAT YOU'VE MENTIONED, THINGS LIKE SET, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE'S THE PARKING, WHERE'S THE FIRE LANE, WHERE'S THE TRASH? THOSE THINGS ARE THE THINGS THAT THE COUNTY HAS CONCERNS OVER AND THAT ARE NOT CURRENTLY BEING ADDRESSED IN HA THE FOLKS THAT ARE JUST POPPING UP, RIGHT? MM-HMM
AND SO, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE NEEDS TO BE A BALANCE BETWEEN ALLOWING THEM AND, AND, BUT THEY CAN'T JUST OPEN UP RIGHT.
BUT, AND SO THERE ARE, UM, OTHER OPTIONS THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED AS WELL AS WHETHER THE COUNTY WANTS TO OPEN OR PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A FOOD COURT.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT SOMEONE HAS TO REGULATE THAT IS THAT PARKS AND RECS SOMEONE HAS TO KEEP TRACK OF, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE TRUCKS ARE COMING IN, WHEN THEY'RE COMING OUT, ARE THEY COMPLIANT? SO THAT'S A WHOLE WORKLOAD, UM, THAT WE HAVE NOT ANTICIPATED.
AND THIS DOES PUT SOME GUIDELINES AROUND THAT.
UM, UH, AND I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS, WE, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE FOOD TRUCKS OPERATING AND WE TRYING TO HAVE 'EM OPERATE IN A SAFE MANNER.
AND SO FAR THAT HAS BEEN, THEY NEED TO FOLLOW THE POLICY.
SO THEY NEED TO, THEY NEED TO BE MOBILE MM-HMM
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ENFORCING THUS FAR MM-HMM
UM, AND SO IT, IT, IT PROTECTS THEM FROM A, A SAFETY STANDPOINT.
AND IT ALSO PROTECTS OUR EXISTING BRICK AND MORTAR BUSINESSES BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR TO 'EM WHO HAVE PUT THE MONEY IN AND PUT THE PARKING IN AND HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO FOR A FOOD TRUCK TO JUST SHOW UP AND SAY, I'M HERE AND I'M PERMANENT, AND NOT HAVE TO ABIDE BY SOME OF THE REGULATIONS THAT THE BRICK AND MORTARS DO.
SO, UM, THERE IS A BALANCE THAT NEEDS TO BE STRUCK, AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN JUST SNAP OUR FINGERS AND MAKE THE DECISION.
AND SO THAT'S THE DELAY IN OUR TIMEFRAME WHEN WE HAVE OTHER INITIATIVES GOING ON.
UM, AND SO, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS ON OUR, OUR WORK LIST.
IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAYBE ADDRESS TRICKY MAY IGNORANCE, BUT WHAT DOES EXIST RIGHT NOW? I MEAN, IS THERE, THERE'S NOT A CLEAR ORDINANCE.
WHAT HAVE THEY CITED ON? I HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT.
IT IT, WHAT THE LETTER THAT THEY WROTE TO THEM SAID THAT THEY, UM, THE NEED, THE, THE CORRECTIVE ACTION FOR THE GUY THAT'S HERE NOW, UH, IT SAYS THE OPERATION OF A FOOD TRUCK IS INTENDED TO BE TRANSIENT AND NOT A PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT TO A PROPERTY.
THE TRUCK MAY BE OPERATED DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS FOR THE EXISTING BUSINESS, AND ANY ITEMS ASSOCIATED WITH FOOD TRUCK OPERATION MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY AT THE END OF EACH DAY.
IT MAY NOT BE STORED OR PARKED ON SITE WHEN NOT IN USE.
ADDITIONALLY, THE USE OF A RESTAURANT WAS EXCLUDED FOR THAT PROPERTY.
SO, SO BASICALLY WHAT IT'S SAYING IS IF HE'S PARKED THERE PERMANENTLY, IT BECOMES A RESTAURANT USE PER ZONING BECAUSE IT'S, HE'S THERE PERMANENTLY.
SO IT'S A RESTAURANT ON THE SITE MM-HMM
WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING.
AND SO WE DO NOT HAVE AN ADOPTED ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESSES FOOD TRUCKS.
WE DO NOT HAVE A TRANSPARENT PUBLIC POLICY THAT REFERENCES FOOD TRUCKS.
SO WE HAVE AN INTERNAL POLICY.
BUT THAT'S NOT A, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN ENFORCE ACTION AGAINST SOMEBODY IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING TO ENFORCE ACTION AGAINST.
'CAUSE IF THEY'RE THERE, THE, THE, THE STATEMENT SHE JUST READ IS THEY'RE OPERATING IF THEY'RE THERE PERMANENTLY, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY DEFINITION OF WHAT MAKES THEM PERMANENT VERSUS NOT.
IF THEY MOVE ONCE EVERY 21 DAYS, THEY'RE NOT PERMANENT ACCORDING TO THE NATIONAL PARKS, DO WE HAVE THAT SAME STANDARD? SO HOW ARE YOU CITING THEM ON SOMETHING THEN YOU CAN'T GIVE THEM CLEAR GUIDANCE ON HOW TO BE WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF, WE GAVE THEM CLEAR GUIDANCE THAT'S NOT BASED IN ANY KIND OF, BASED ON AN INTERNAL POLICY, WHICH ISN'T ALSO, BUT THE RESTAURANT YOU CAN'T ENFORCE THE PROPERTY IS NOT ZONED AT FOR A RESTAURANT WHERE HE, HE'S STILL NO, IN MOVING EVERY 21 DAYS OR WHATEVER.
HE'S NOT, HE'S NOT AT A RESTAURANT, BUT HE'S NOT MOVING BACK NOW.
HE WOULD TAKE IT TO SPECIAL EVENTS.
BUT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, THERE'S NO, THERE, THERE ISN'T AN ORDINANCE DEALING ADDRESSING FOOD TRUCKS.
IT'S AN INTERPRETATION OF AN ORDINANCE YES.
WHICH THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR IS UNDER HIS STATE CODE GUIDANCE IS ALLOWED TO MAKE INTERPRETATIONS AND ALLOWED TO ENFORCE UNDER HIS INTERPRETATIONS.
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LET'S NOT SO ARE WE IN A PICKLE? YES.IS IT GONNA BE FIXED OVERNIGHT? IT WILL NOT BE FIXED OVERNIGHT.
SO THE QUICKEST WAY TO FIX IT OVERNIGHT WOULD BE FOR THE EDA KIND OF COMING BACK AROUND.
TO, TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT IN THE ED'S PURVIEW, WE LOOK AT THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
BUT WE CAN, I MEAN, IS IT FAIR TO SAY WE WANT TO DO THIS, WE WANT TO MAKE, YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
WELL, IS IT, WOULD IT BE KOSHER FOR US TO GO AND MEET WITH SOMEBODY TO GET SOME INPUT BEFORE WE MAKE A FURTHER RECOMMENDATION? I THINK SO.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK CURRENT STAFF HAS TIME TO DO? YEAH.
SO AT THIS POINT, LIKE SQUEAKY WHEEL, RIGHT.
IS THERE IS, SINCE YOU'RE THERE NOW,
AM I JUMPING TOO FAR AHEAD OF THINGS? YEAH.
I DON'T, THIS IS A, THIS IS A PLANNING AND ZONING TYPE OF ISSUE, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE'S CONSULTANTS THAT CAN COME IN AND PROVIDE THAT KIND OF, BASICALLY WE WOULD BE ACTING AS A CONSULTING.
WELL, I, I, I'LL, I MEAN, I'LL SUGGEST, WELL, I WON'T GO.
I MEAN, I, I THINK WE CAN DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF WORK THEN.
AND THE ULTIMATE LEGAL AUTHORITY IS OBVIOUSLY COUNSEL, RIGHT.
IF, IF, IF IT WOULD BE, IF THE EDA MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO UPDATE THE ORDINANCE, THEN IT WOULD, UH, THE PROCESS WOULD BE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WOULD THEN DIRECT STAFF TO DRAFT THE ORDINANCE, AND THEN IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
AND, AND DRAFTING AN ORDINANCE IS ACTUALLY, DOES SHE JUST COUNSEL TO THAT OR DOES, DOES YOUR STAFF DO THAT? UH, DOES TYPICALLY THE COUNTY STAFF DRAFTS THE ORDINANCE AND THEN LEGAL REVIEWS THE ORDINANCE.
I MEAN, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE COUNTY'S PLAN FOR THAT CORON? UM, SO RIGHT NOW IT'S, UH, THE BUILDING WAS DEMOLISHED TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE FUTURE COURTHOUSE.
AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE FUTURE COURTHOUSE SPACE.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ACTIVE PLAN BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE COURTHOUSE IS.
WHICH CORNER ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THE OLD, THE OLD, YEAH.
SO, SO WE DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE ON WHEN THEY ARE GONNA BUILD.
I, I DON'T HAVE ONE AT THE MOMENT.
I, I QUITE FRANKLY, IT'S NOT BUDGETED PROPERLY.
I MEAN, IT'S $17 MILLION AND I KNOW IT'S GONNA COST LEAST 40.
WHAT ABOUT THE CORNER AT THE ROUNDABOUT? YEAH.
SO THOSE ARE ALL POTENTIAL PLACES.
IT IT, THIS IS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE PLACES THAT THE COUNTY COULD PROVIDE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE PLANS FOR THAT CORNER.
YEAH, NO, THOSE ARE, THOSE WOULD BE TWO POTENTIAL PLACES.
UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE OF AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE THAN A LOCATIONAL ISSUE.
I THINK BOTH OF THOSE COULD WORK AND BOTH COULD BE SAFE.
UM, LISA COULD BE RUN LIKE A FARMER'S MARKET.
A LOT OF FOOD TRUCKS ARE RUN, YOU KNOW, IN A SIMILAR WAY.
AND THE COUNTY DOES IS NOW RUNNING THE FARMER'S MARKET.
I THINK IT'S JUST GETTING, YOU KNOW, THAT UP AND RUNNING IT NEEDS SOME MARKETING.
RIGHT? IT, IT WOULD, AND HONESTLY IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT AGAIN, YOU GUYS CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
UM, SO I MEAN, CAN WE MAKE A PARALLEL PROCESS? WELL, MAYBE, YEAH.
DEFINITELY TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT PATHS OF ACHIEVEMENT.
ONE WOULD BE IN TERMS OF LAND OR RIGHTS OR FACILITY, ANOTHER ORDINANCE, AND ANOTHER A TEMPORARY IN BETWEEN FOR THE OTHER, I, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF MM-HMM
WELL, NOW THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING, PERHAPS YOU AND I CAN GET TOGETHER AND MM-HMM
JUST KIND OF BRAINSTORM A LITTLE BIT AND SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN COME UP WITH.
BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND INTERPRETIVE, UH, REGULATORY BURDEN PLACED ON A BUSINESS.
BUT, UM,
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NO.WHAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S SAYING.
WHAT SHE'S SAYING IS THE CODE ALLOWS WHO'S IN CHARGE OF ZONING.
AND THEY ALSO HAD, UM, THEY HAD TO BE ADA COMPLIANT.
THEY HAD TO COMPLY WITH THE SIGN, THE SIGNAGE.
THAT'S ALL SIGNED AND IT, IT'S ALL COMPLAINT SEVEN.
SO IT, ONCE THEY FIX SOME OF THOSE THINGS, THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY OTHER COMPLAINTS HAVE, BUT IT DOESN'T ADDRESS IT LONG TERM.
IS THERE A WRITTEN COMPLAINT? BECAUSE YOU TOLD ME THERE WAS NO WRITTEN COMPLAINT THERE, THERE WAS A WRITTEN COMPLAINT.
I MEAN, THERE WAS A COMPLAINT FILED.
WHERE DO I FIND THAT? I THOUGHT I SENT IT TO YOU.
WE WE COULD NOT OPEN THE COUPLE.
MAYBE IT'S WHAT WE COULDN'T OPEN.
THAT'S WHAT I'LL, I'LL SEE WHAT THAT YEAH.
SAID IT TO YOU IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT.
IF YOU, I MEAN, I, I COULDN'T OPEN THE VDH.
I KIND OF KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD SAY.
I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THERE WAS AN EMAIL SENT AND THE, WITHIN THE EMAIL AND THE ATTACHMENTS, IT'S PROBABLY NOT ATTACHED TO THE, BUT, SO YEAH, I, WHAT I HEAR IS WE CAN WORK ON TRYING TO SOLVE THIS THROUGH PARALLEL PASS, OR I'M, I'M PROPOSING PARALLEL PASS TO, TO TRY AND ALLEVIATE THE SITUATION.
'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND, OBVIOUSLY SOME OUR RESTAURANT OWNERS AND LEASERS THAT, UH, THIS, THIS IS A CHALLENGE TO THEM TOO.
AND, BUT I UNDERSTAND THE INTERPRETIVE RIGHTS OF, OF WITHIN THE CODE OF VIRGINIA THAT ALLOWED SOMEBODY TO DO IT.
BUT I THINK WE CAN HELP THIS TO GET THIS ALLEVIATION.
UH, IS IS THE GAS STATION, AND I KNOW IT'S GOT A MONITORING PROBLEM.
UH, THERE'S NO CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
REALLY, UH, THERE ARE WELLS ON THAT PROPERTY THAT ARE USED FOR SAMPLING UNLESS SOMETHING'S CHANGED BECAUSE OF, UM, MISUSE OF THE LAND, UH, BY HYDROCARBONS AND SO FORTH.
SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT AT ALL.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE THE WELL WELLS THERE ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY BASICALLY TRASH MM-HMM
UM, SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING TO, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IT, SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT APPLIES THERE, BUT I THINK YEAH.
IF WE CAN HELP THE BUSINESS, AND I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH RESOURCE ALLOCATION WITHIN THE COUNTY, AND I MEAN, WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING, I MEAN, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU, YOU COULDN'T COME FRIDAY, WE KNOW WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA, WE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER AND HELP GET THIS MM-HMM
AND TRY AND GET RESOLVED IF IT, IF WE CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE NEXT HURDLE ONE TO, UH, TROUNCE ON.
BUT I THINK WE CAN, I THINK WE CAN PROBABLY HELP.
SO YOU, YOU'RE GOING TO MM-HMM
AND IN BETWEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE RESOURCES THAT ARE NEEDED TOO, WE DO HAVE COUNCIL THAT'S INDEPENDENT OF COUNTY COUNCIL THAT WE CAN CALL ON AT ANY TIME.
WHO'S THAT? OUR, OUR FRIEND, OUR OUR OWN EDA BECAUSE WE'RE A SEPARATE ENTITY.
I MEAN, IT'S STILL THE SAME DUDE, RIGHT? YES.
I DIDN'T WANT TO BUTCHER HIS LAST NAME BECAUSE THAT'S THE BUTCHER, ANYBODY'S LAST NAME.
AND SO HE, HE, HE CAN ALSO ANSWER QUESTIONS WITHIN, UH, CERTAIN REALMS. NOW, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS HE PROBABLY GONNA SAY TO WHY ARE YOU GUYS DOING THIS? BUT, UM, I, I THINK WE CAN HELP.
IS IT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW? WELL, IT, THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CODE OF VIRGINIA THAT SAYS WE CAN'T DO THIS.
IT'S JUST NOT SAID YOU SHOULD DO THIS.
IT'S NOT A DON'T DO IT, IT, THERE'S NOTHING SAID.
BUT IT DOES SAY, IT DOES SAY PROMOTE BUSINESS.
I KNOW AI GIVES US A BENEFIT OF WHATEVER'S OUT THERE EXISTING, BUT HAVE WE TRIED TO IDENTIFY A SPECIFIC, UH, PLACE, UH, EXISTING SITUATION WHERE WE COULD BENEFIT FROM THAT? LIKE, DOES RACO HAVE THIS ISSUE? OR, OR ANY, ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITY WE KNOW OF? DO THEY HAVE RULES AND ORDINANCES THEY TOO, THAT PERTAIN TO THIS SORT OF THING? AND IS THIS SEASONAL? IS IS THAT, ARE WE LOOKING AT THAT? IS IT A YEAR ROUND THING? NOT SO MUCH SEASONAL.
AND UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THERE MAY BE SOME BENEFIT TO CONSIDER SPECIAL PROJECTS LIKE THAT ARE GONNA GO ON FOR A YEAR.
LIKE BUILDING AMAZON, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NEED A FOOD TRUCK DOWN THERE FOR FOUR PERIOD AGO.
SO YOU, AS YOU GET INTO THIS, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF TO THINK ABOUT.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED IT TO BE MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN THE SURROUNDING CATTLE I LOOKED AT.
I KNOW RI GOES, I KNOW CHESTERFIELD AND
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HANOVER PRETTY MUCH, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO LIVE AT THE CITY OF RICHMOND.UM, AND IT IS PRETTY STRICT WITH THE LONG TERM ONES.
BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE A LONG TERM, YOU'RE BASICALLY A RESTAURANT, THEN IT HAS BECOME PERMANENT.
LIKE YOU CALL, THINK OF CHESTERFIELD AND NCO, HOW MANY MORE RESTAURANTS THEY HAVE THAN GOLAND IN AN AVAILABLE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
WE HAVE A SERIOUS AMOUNT AVAILABLE RESTAURANTS.
WE'VE HAD SO MANY HOW MANY TIMES? I KNOW, YOU KNOW, BEN, HOW MANY TIMES THE EDA HAS BEEN, HAVE HAD PEOPLE COME AND ADDRESS US ABOUT TAKING OVER CERTAIN PROPERTIES.
MAINLY, MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE, UM, OVERLAY DISTRICT HERE IN, IN THE COURTHOUSE ESPECIALLY.
UM, THEY'VE TRIED TO GET INTO CERTAIN BUILDINGS AND THERE'S JUST HARDLY ANY PLACE FOR THEM TO GO.
LIKE THIS, THIS PARTICULAR FOOD TRUCK IS OPENING ON THE FRONT PAAN.
'CAUSE THEY COULDN'T FIND A SPACE IN GOODLAND.
THE OTHER THING, DON'T WE, WE HAVE ONE, THE PARKS AND REC HAS A, IS THAT A TRAILER? IT'S NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S OPERATIONALLY.
IS THAT DIFFERENT? WELL, IT, I THINK, I THINK IT'S, IT'S THE TRAILER IS YOU TOW IT.
IT'S MORE OF A, BUT I MEAN, IS THAT GENERAL FROM WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? NO, THAT'S CONSIDERED A MOBILE SAME.
IT'S A MOBILE FOOD TRUCK, BUT THEY'RE NOT OPERATING IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THEY TAKE IT TO THE PLACE WHERE THEY'RE GOING USE IT EVEN YEAH.
AND THEN PACK IT UP AND THEN MOVE IT BACK WHERE THEY'RE NOT USING IT.
IT IS, IT IS DIFFERENT THAN THEM BEING OPEN EVERY SINGLE DAY AT THE SAME LOCATION.
WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED COMPETITION IN THE FREE MARKET WITH THE GOVERNMENT? UH, YES.
THE FOOD TRUCK WILL BE TAKING BUSINESS FROM RESTAURANTS.
NO, IT WON'T CAROL, BECAUSE THE FOOD TRUCK IS GONNA BE OPERATING DURING SPORTS CONCESSIONS WHEN INSTEAD OF THE CONCESSION STAND AND OPERATED BY LIKE GYA AND THINGS LIKE THAT INSTEAD OF THE CONCESSION STAND.
FORGIVE ME, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INDUCE THAT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT, THOSE SIDES, AND I YES, I, AND I KNOW THE REASON.
I MEAN, THERE, CONCESSION STAND HAS A LOT OF ISSUES.
UM, SO I MEAN, IN A SENSE, IT'S, IT'S VERY BE BENEFICIAL TO THE SPORTS AND RECREATIONAL ASPECTS OF THE COUNTY AND IT WILL HAVE SOME EFFECT, UM, BUSINESSES.
BUT, UH, YOU CAN MAKE A HEARING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CONCESSION STANDS A NEEDED THING FOR.
SO WE WILL PURSUE THAT AND, UH, WE CAN TALK INTERNALLY ON THAT.
UH, NO, WE CAN'T TALK INTERNALLY FOR DECISIONS.
WE CAN, UM, UH, THERE'S LIMITATIONS OVER MORE OPTIONS.
UH, WE CAN'T MAKE ANY DECISIONS.
WE CAN'T HAVE ANY DETAILED DISCUSSIONS, UH, BETWEEN MORE THAN TWO OF US AT A TIME.
AND WE CAN'T REACH WELL, A CONSENSUS OUTSIDE OF THESE MEETINGS.
SO WE DO HAVE TO TREAT IT WITHIN THE PROPER RESPECT OF THE, THE, THE LAWS, THE CODE OF VIRGINIA.
BUT YEAH, I THINK, I THINK, I THINK WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN COME BACK AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE COUNTY A STARTING POINT RIGHT.
IS THAT TOO EARLY YOU THINK? NO, BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE'RE MEETING A WEEK EARLY THIS MONTH.
IS THERE ANY OTHER MATTERS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS? EXCUSE IN OTHER BUSINESS HEARING THAT I ASSUME WE ARE GOING TO PROCEED WITH CLOSED SESSION.
YES, WE DO HAVE CLOSED SESSION.
SO THEREFORE, MADAM, I APOLOGIZE, BUT WE MUST ASK YOU TO KEEP OUR THANK YOU FOR WE'RE KICKING YOUR ASS.
AS SOON AS WE'RE OVER IN CLOSED SESSION FEEDBACK, YOU CAN, YOU CAN COME BACK.
OH, ARE WE? OH, WE CAN DO UNPLUGGED.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH PROVISIONS OF VIRGINIA CODE SECTION 2, 2 3 7 1 1 AND 2.23712.
I MOVED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY OF
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A CLOSED MEETING FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSION CONCERNING A PROSPECTIVE BUSINESS OR INDUSTRY LOCATING COMMUNITY WHERE NO PREVIOUS ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT ITS PLANS HAS BEEN MADE AND DISCUSSION, OR CONSIDERATION AND ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC PURPOSE OR OF THE DISPOSITION OF PUBLICLY HELD REAL PROPERTY, WHERE DISCUSSION IN AN OPEN MEETING WOULD ADVERSELY AFFECT THE BARGAINING POSITION OR NEGOTIATING STRATEGY OF THE PUBLIC BODY AS PERMITTED BY VIRGINIA CODE SECTIONS 2.23711 PARAGRAPH AC AND A FIVE.IS THERE SECOND? SECOND IT, UM, ANY DISCUSSION, HEARING NO DISCUSSION? I, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THE ROLL ON THE, ON THE WAY OUT.
SO, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO MOVE THE CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE STATE AYE.
I MOVE PURSUANT TO SECTION 2, 2 3 7 2D OF THE DAKOTA OF VIRGINIA.
GOIN, COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY HEREBY CERTIFY THAT TO THE BEST OF EACH MEMBER'S KNOWLEDGE, ONE, ONLY PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS, LAWFULLY EXEMPTED FROM OPEN MEETING REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
AND TWO, ONLY SUCH BUSINESS PUBLIC BUSINESS MATTERS AS WERE IDENTIFIED IN MOTION CONVENING THE CLOSED MEETING WERE HEARD, DISCUSSED, OR CONSIDERED BY THE GUCH COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY IN THE CLOSED MEDIUM.
MADAM DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE.
IS THERE A SECOND? WELL, THERE, I'LL SECOND IT.
IF YOU KNOW, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE.
NO, THERE ARE NO NAYS AND NO ABSTENTIONS.
THEREFORE, WE HAVE, UH, BEEN THROUGH SOME DISCUSSION AND IS THERE A MOTION OR I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE $2,487 50 CENTS, UM, EXPENDITURE.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, HEARING, NO DISCUSSION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, AN AMOUNT OF 248, $2,487 AND 50 CENTS TO BE EXPENDED BY THE EDA FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UH, UH, SUPPORTING LAND, UH, DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE COUNTY.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE OUR BODY? IF NOT, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
ANY OBJECTION OR ANY? UH, YES.