* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] MADAM CLERK, [1. Call To Order] MS. PARKER, DO WE HAVE A QUORUM THIS EVENING? YES. THANK YOU. LET US PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF [2. Pledge of Allegiance] ALLEGIANCE AND THE INVOCATION. [3. Invocation - Led By Mr. Kemmerly] HAS EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, HAS EVERYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST THE 21ST, 2025 [4. Approval of Minutes] MEETING? IF SO, ARE THERE ANY [A. Minutes of Aug 21, 2025 6:00 PM] COMMENTS OR IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED? AND SECOND, CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL? VOTE PLEASE. AYE. [5. Director's Report / Announcements] [00:05:04] AND DISTRICT THREE REQUESTING A CONDITIONING MEETING FOR TWO IS A DISTRICT 2025 [6. Citizen Comment Period] DESIRES TO SPEAK SHALL BE GIVEN TIME TO PRESENT A DIRECTED TO THE COMMISSION, NOT TO THE AUDIENCE. THIS SUMMIT PERIOD PROVIDE PUBLIC PERMISSION TO HEAR FROM CITIZENS ABOUT MATTERS PERTINENT TO THE ACTIVITIES OF THE COMMISSION. THE CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD IS LIMITED TO MATTERS THAT ARE NOT SCHEDULED. BRING ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IF YOU'RE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE, ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT DISTRICT AND THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE, PLEASE HOLD YOUR COMMENTS UNTIL THAT ITEM HEARING. THANK YOU. MADAME CLERK, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING THIS, UH, CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD. UH, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. DO YOU ALSO? YES. WE'LL HAVE YOU FIRST AND THEN YOU SECOND, SIR. THANK YOU. YES SIR. EXCUSE ME. CAN YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE, SIR? YEP. THERE YOU GO. YOU'RE GOOD. [00:12:10] OPERATING SITE INCREASES FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIRE AND RESCUE AND SCHOOL BUDGET. WE ALSO HAVE THE TCSD DEBT. ELI LILLY WILL HOPEFULLY BE THE COWBELL FOR MORE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THIS PROJECT DIDN'T COME BY HAPPENSTANCE, IT CAME BY THE FRUITION. A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING VERY HARD AND AS A TEAM WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF GUTMAN COUNTY ORDINANCES, WEST CREEK ACCORDS BY RIDE ZONING AND YES, EVEN NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS. IT INCLUDED THE EFFORTS BY A TIRELESS COUNTY STAFF AND ELECTED OFFICIALS AND APPOINTED MEMBERS AND A COMMONWEALTH AND EVEN A NATIONAL STAGE. THIS ALSO INCLUDES YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I THANK YOU ALL. WE'RE BLESSED WITH A GREAT COMPANY COMING TORAH COUNTY TO PROVIDE HIGH PAYING JOBS, PAY TAXES, PROVIDE SOLUTIONS TO CRITICAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND FILL THE VACANT PARKING LOTS. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON A MATTER NOT PERTAINING TO WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORWARD. SEEING NONE. I WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. [7. Unfinished Business - None] THERE IS NO UNFINISHED BUSINESS AND THERE IS NO NEW BUSINESS. THERE ARE NO REQUESTS TO DEFER [8. New Business - None] ADDITIONS, DELETIONS, OR CHANGES TO THE ORDER OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. [9. Requests to Defer, Additions, Deletions, or Changes to the Order of Public Hearings] MM-HMM . WE GOING TO HAVE TESTING. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, THIS EVENING. THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR REQUESTS FOR CONDITIONAL [10. Public Hearing Items] USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY FAMILY HOUSING UNIT. AND THE SECOND IS FOR THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT. GIVEN DISTRICT, GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF BOTH OF THESE, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS, IT IS OUR DESIRE TO ALLOW EVERY PERSON THE OPPORTUNITY, THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND THE TIME FOR US TO, TO BE FOCUSED IN ON THE DELIBERATIONS. WE ARE GOING TO MEET UNTIL 11:00 PM THIS EVENING AND WE WANT TO PRIORITIZE EVERYONE'S HEALTH WELLBEING TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN GIVE THE ISSUES BEFORE US THE ATTENTION THEY DESERVE. IF WE ARE NOT FINISHED WITH OUR HEARING, [00:15:01] UM, AND OUR COMMISSION DELIBERATIONS, WE WILL PAUSE THE MEETING AT THAT 11:00 PM HOUR AND RETURN ON NEXT THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 25TH AT 6:30 PM HERE IN THE GLAND HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM PER THE PLANNING COMMISSION BYLAWS, SECTION FOUR, ADDRESSING THE COMMISSION. PUBLIC COMMENTS 4.3 0.1 TIME LIMITS. GENERALLY, A CITIZEN MAY PRESENT ONCE FOR THREE MINUTES AT ANY PUBLIC HEARING. IF A CITIZEN WISHES TO PRESENT AS A REPE REPE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE GROUP, THEN HE OR SHE MAY EXTEND HIS OR HER TIME FOR PRESENTATION UP TO 10 MINUTES BY HAVING UP TO FOUR OTHER CITIZENS COME TO THE PODIUM, IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND SEE TWO MINUTES OF SPEAKING TIME TO THE GROUP. REPRESENTATIVE PERSONS WHO WISH TO PRESENT A VIDEO, AUDIO SLIDE, OR OTHER PRESENTATION AS PART OF THEIR REMARKS MUST SUBMIT THEIR, THEIR MATERIALS ELECTRONICALLY TO THE CLERK BY NOON. THE BUSINESS DAY BEFORE THE MEETING MATERIALS NOT TIMELY RECEIVED WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE PRESENTED AT THE MEETING. REPETITION SUCCESSIVE SPEAKERS WHO EITHER SUPPORT AN ITEM OR OPPOSE AN ITEM ARE ENCOURAGED TO ADDRESS DIFFERENT ISSUES AND NOT BE REPETITIVE. THANK YOU. MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING? YES SIR. OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TONIGHT IS IN DISTRICT FOUR, CU 20 25 3 [1. District 4 - CU-2025-00003 - Application by Andrea L. Smith requesting a conditional use permit (CUP) for an accessory family housing unit, detached, on 4.46 acres at 831 Broad Street Road on Tax Map No. 46-1-0-26-0. The property is zoned Agricultural, Limited (A-2). The CUP is required by County Zoning Ordinance Sec. 15-112 in accordance with Sec. 15-285.A. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.] APPLICATION BY ANDREA L. SMITH REQUESTING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CUP FOR AN ACCESSORY FAMILY HOUSING UNIT, DETACHED ON 4.46 ACRES AT 8 3 1 BROAD STREET ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBER 46 1 0 26 0. THE PROPERTY IS OWNED AGRICULTURAL LIMITED A TWO. THE CUP IS REQUIRED BY COUNTY ZONING ORDINANCE SECTION 15 1 12 IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 15,285 A. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA. THANK YOU MADAM CLERK. FOR THE RECORD, I AM RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. THIS CASE AS REFERENCED IS IN DISTRICT FOUR. IT IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY FAMILY HOUSING UNIT. DETACHED 8 3 1 BROAD STREET ROAD, 4.46 ACRES. THIS IS A RULE ENHANCEMENT AREA IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ON THE MASS BEFORE YOU. AND THE RED CIRCLE IS GENERALLY THE VICINITY OF WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG BROAD STREET ROAD. THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED AND THE SLIDE ON THE RIGHT IN THE AERIAL FOCUS HERE. UM, LANDMARKS. THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM UH, GRACE CHINESE BAPTIST CHURCH. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED. A TWO ARE THE AS ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND AS REFERENCED, THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED RULE ENHANCEMENT IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED BY A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND A RESIDENTIAL ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. UH, NATURAL GAS TRUNK LINE REALLY TRANSVERSES THE, THE PROPERTY ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF BROAD STREET AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING FOR A FAMILY UPON THE, UM, BASED UPON THE CONDITIONAL USE. HERE AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS OUTLINED IN RED. UM, WE HAVE AN ARROW HERE POINTING TO, UM, THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE ACCESSORY FAMILY HOUSING UNIT. THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING HELD ON JUNE 26TH, UH, ATTENDED BY FOUR C CITIZENS. THE APPLICANT DID HAVE A, EXPLAINED THE PROPOSAL TO THE ATTENDEES. UH, THE QUESTIONS, UM, INCLUDED THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST, UM, EXISTING VEGETATION PROPOSED LOCATION DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CCP, CS AND REZONING WITH THE DRAFT CONDITION THIS PROPOSAL WOULD BE IN IS WOULD BE DEEMED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WITH THIS CASE, STAFF HAS, UM, PROPOSED THAT PLAN COMMISSION IMPOSED STANDARD CONDITIONS THAT ARE TYPICAL FOR THE ACCESSORY FAMILY HOUSING UNITS. UH, THOSE INCLUDE USE LIMITATION THAT CAN'T BE RENTED, THAT THERE HAS TO BE AN EMERGENCY ACCESS PROVIDED. THERE WOULD BE AN EXPIRATION THAT WOULD EXPIRE IN NOVEMBER OF 2035 AND THERE SHOULD BE NOTIFICATION TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT SHOULD THERE BE TRANSFER RELEASE OF THE PROPERTY. STAFF, OF COURSE, IS AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS IN ATTENDANCE. THANK YOU MR. CASH. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK AND PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS? YES, MY NAME IS ANDREA SMITH. [00:20:01] I'M AT EIGHT THIRTY FIVE. MOVE THE MICROPHONE DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT. MM-HMM . THERE YOU GO, SHORT PEOPLE. MY NAME IS ANDREA SMITH AND I DO LIVE AT 8 31 BROAD STREET ROAD. UM, THIS LAND WAS MY GRANDPARENTS' LAND THAT WAS THEN PASSED ON TO ME TO BUILD A HOUSE. UM, THE PERMIT IS NOW FOR MY DAUGHTER AND SON-IN-LAW TO BUILD A HOUSE THERE AS WELL. AND WE JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION ON THIS MATTER. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. BUT NOW OPEN IT UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS PARTICULAR CASE. THERE'S ANYONE WHO WANTS TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK. YOU MAY DO SO. AND AGAIN, THERE'S A TIME LIMIT OF THREE MINUTES AND YOU WILL HEAR A BUZZER WHEN THAT TIME IS EXPIRED. SEEING THAT NO ONE WANTS TO COME FORWARD IN THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, I WILL END THAT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? I HAVE NO QUESTION BEING THAT THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS, I LIKE TO UH, ASK FOR A MOTION. I MOVE THAT THE COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CU 2 0 0 APPLICATION CONDITIONS. SECOND, IT BEEN PROPERLY MOVED. AND SECOND, CAN I HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. MADAM CLERK? YES, SIR. MR. KIMBERLY AYE. MR. PATOK AYE. MR. COSBY AYE. MS. KOWALSKI AYE. MR. MCLAUGHLIN AYE. THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL PASSES ON A FIVE OH VOTE. THIS CASE IS TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON NOVEMBER 6TH, 2025. IT MOVES FORWARD WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION. OUR SECOND AND FINAL [2. Countywide - CP-2025-00002 and ZOA-2025-00001 – Amendment to the Comprehensive Plan related to the establishment of a Technology Overlay District, and an amendment to the Zoning Ordinance (County Code Chapter 15) adding Sections 15-448 through 15-550 establishing a Technology Overlay District; amending Sec. 15-331 (Off-street parking and loading/unloading requirements) to decrease parking standards for data centers; and amending Sec. 15-500 (Definitions) to include small modular nuclear reactor facility, natural gas peaking plant, and utility generating station] PUBLIC HEARING ITEM TONIGHT IS COUNTYWIDE CP 20 25 2 AND ZERO A 20 25 1 AMENDMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RELATED TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT AND AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE COUNTY CODE CHAPTER 15, ADDING SECTIONS 15 4 4 8 THROUGH 15 500 ESTABLISHING A TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT AMENDING SECTION 15 3 3 1 OFF STREET PARKING AND LOADING, UNLOADING REQUIREMENTS TO DECREASE PARKING STANDARDS FOR DATA CENTERS AND AMENDING SECTION 15 500 DEFINITIONS TO INCLUDE SMALL MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTOR FACILITY, NATURAL GAS PEAKING PLANT AND UTILITY GENERATING STATION. THANK YOU MS. PARKER. BEFORE WE GET STARTED WITH THE, WELL, WE HAVE THE STAFF PRESENTATION. I APOLOGIZE. NO, THAT'S OKAY. YOU OVER THERE? THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU MS. PARKER. UH, GOOD EVENING COMMISSION MEMBERS. MY NAME IS SARAH WORLEY AND I'M THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FOR GLAND COUNTY. THIS EVENING I WILL BE PRESENTING THREE ITEMS. TWO ARE FOR PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION, THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT. THE THIRD ITEM IS A COMPLIMENTARY ORDINANCE THAT IS NOT IN THE ZONING AND DOES NOT REQUIRE PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION. I AM PRESENTING IT AS CONTEXT AND INFORMATION TO THE COMMISSION. SO WHY ARE WE HERE? COUNTY STAFF AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY ARE RECOMMENDING TWO ORDINANCES THAT WILL WORK TOGETHER TO ATTRACT HIGH QUALITY, HIGH REVENUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. THOSE TWO ORDINANCES ARE KNOWN AS THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE. SO I'D LIKE TO BACK UP A BIT AND DESCRIBE WHY THE COUNTY WANTS TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESS. THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS MADE ATTRACTING HIGH TECHNOLOGY BUSINESSES SUCH AS ADVANCED MANUFACTURING AND DATA CENTERS A PRIORITY FOR THE COUNTY. BECAUSE THE TAX REVENUE GENERATED FROM SUCH BUSINESSES IS A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT TO THE COUNTY'S TAX BASE. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS WILL GIVE THE COUNTY THE ABILITY TO BETTER ATTRACT LARGE REVENUE PRODUCING TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES. BUT YOU MAY BE WONDERING WHY DOES THE COUNTY WANT OR NEED THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES? TECHNOLOGY BUSINESSES HAVE THE HIGHEST REVENUE PRODUCING IMPACTS IN TERMS OF TAXES AND HIGH QUALITY JOBS. HIGH TECH BUSINESSES PAY A SIGNIFICANT REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY AND MACHINERY AND TOOLS. THE COUNTY'S CORE GOVERNMENT FUNCTIONS ARE LARGELY SUPPORTED BY BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL TAXES. HAVING MORE BUSINESSES [00:25:01] HELPS ALLEVIATE THE TAX BURDEN ON CITIZENS. IT IS A LONG-TERM BOARD OF SUPERVISOR GOAL TO HAVE THE TAX REVENUE STREAMS TO BE 70% FUNDED BY RESIDENTIAL AND 30% FUNDED BY COMMERCIAL TAXES. WE CURRENTLY SIT AROUND THE 82 18 MARK. IN ADDITION, THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE ARE CENTRAL TO GLAND'S COUNTYWIDE STRATEGY, GROW WISELY, PROTECT RURAL CHARACTER, AND DIVERSIFY THE TAX BASE. THE PLAN PRESERVES AND MAKES GLAND UNIQUE WHILE ENSURING RESOURCES TO THRIVE. FOCUSING GROWTH WHERE IT BELONGS, SAFEGUARDING RURAL AREAS AND SECURING OUR LONG-TERM SUSTAINABILITY. IT WILL HELP US CONCENTRATE OUR GROWTH WHERE WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT IT WHILE PROTECTING THE 85% OF THE COUNTY TO REMAIN RURAL. IT WILL HELP US SUSTAIN REVENUE AND PAY DOWN THE TCSD DEBT WITHOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL TAX BURDENS TO THE CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTY. I KNOW THAT I DO NOT HAVE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS OUR NORTH STAR TO GUIDE DEVELOPMENT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ABOUT BALANCE PROTECTING GLAND'S, RURAL NATURE WHILE BUILDING OUR SUSTAINABLE FUTURE. THERE HAS BEEN A LONG HISTORY OF PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IN THE EASTERN PART OF GLAND COUNTY DATING BACK TO 1975. IN 19 87, 3500 ACRES WAS REZONED TO CREATE WEST CREEK AND 1995 INFRASTRUCTURE WAS BROUGHT IN TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. IN 2002, THE TCSD, THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT WAS FORMED TO BRING ADDITIONAL WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY TO THE EAST END OF THE COUNTY. AND IN 2015, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WAS ADOPTED SHOWING THE EASTERN DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA AS THE ECONOMIC DRIVER OF THE COUNTY. OUR APPROACH TO THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT IS DESIGNED TO FIND THE SWEET SPOT WHERE GLAND REMAINS ATTRACTIVE TO INVESTORS WHILE ENSURING THE RESIDENTS ARE PROTECTED. AS YOU WILL SEE IN MY PRESENTATION, TOD STANDARDS ADD NEW PROTECTIONS SUCH AS BUFFERS, SETBACKS, NOISE LIMITS AND DESIGN CONTROLS. BUY RIGHT OPPORTUNITIES REMAIN AVAILABLE. GIVING BUSINESSES CERTAINTY AND ENCOURAGING HIGH VALUE INVESTMENT. BALANCED ZONING ENSURES GLIN IS COMPETITIVELY, IS COMPETITIVE REGIONALLY, WHILE SAFEGUARDING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE HERE LOCALLY, SUCCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE A COUNTY THAT IS BOTH WELCOMING TO INNOVATION AND PROTECTIVE OF ITS RURAL CHARACTER. BEFORE I GET INTO THE DETAILS OF THE TEXT TECHNOLOGY ZONE, I WOULD LIKE TO REVIEW THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WE'VE HELD THUS FAR. SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW, WE'VE CREATED A SPECIFIC WEBPAGE, UH, ON OUR WEBSITE GLAND VA US SLASH TOD, WHERE WE'VE POSTED MAPS OF THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE AND THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT. THE ORDINANCE TEXT FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS, A DEDICATED COMMENT PORTAL, A UM, COMMUNITY MEETING, PRESENTATIONS AND RECORDINGS, AND THEN OTHER RESOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BY CITIZENS. IN ADDITION, WE'VE HELD TWO COUNTYWIDE COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE'VE HELD INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND CITIZEN GROUP MEETINGS. WE PERFORMED A BALLOON TEST FOR VISUAL DEMONSTRATIONS OF HEIGHT AND WE EXTENDED MAILINGS TO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO INCLUDE ALL PROPERTIES IN ALL ADJACENT SUBDIVISIONS. SO ON JULY 7TH, WE DID HOLD OUR FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING ON THIS INITIATIVE. UH, THERE WAS ABOUT 20 TO 25 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO ATTENDED. AND CONCERNS WERE EXPRESSED REGARDING PROPOSED USES, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UTILITY CAPACITY, AND THE PUBLIC PROCESS. AFTER THE COMMUNITY MEETING, WE HAVE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS AND WE HELD A SMALL GROUP MEETING TO GAIN A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF COMMUNITY INPUT. HERE'S A CHART DET DETAILING HOW WHAT WE HEARD AND HOW OFTEN WE HEARD THE MAJORITY OF, UH, INPUT THAT WE HAD WAS AROUND NOISE BUFFER, SETBACKS, HEIGHT, AND RULE CHARACTER. AFTER THE JULY 7TH COMMUNITY MEETING, STAFF WENT BACK AND MADE SOME CHANGES TO THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THESE INDIVIDUALLY, BUT WE DID, UM, UH, CHA MAKE CHANGES TO SETBACKS AND BUFFERS, HEIGHTS, NOISE, UM, ENERGY USE, UH, THE SCALE, LOCATION, AND THEN, UM, INCREASED TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC INPUT. BY HOLDING A SECOND COMMUNITY MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, UH, WE, WE, UM, TOOK THE CHANGES THAT WE MADE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY 700 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC IN ATTENDANCE. WE TOOK COMMENTS VIA CARDS AND STAFF ANSWERED QUESTIONS OFF THE CARDS BY THE [00:30:01] CATEGORY. HERE'S A CHART DETAILING, UM, THOSE COMMENTS. WE ANALYZE THEM AND GROUP THEM INTO CATEGORIES THAT WE HEARD MOST OFTEN. NOISE AND QUALITY OF LIFE BEING THE TOP CONCERN SHORTLY FOLLOWED BY, BY RIGHT DEVELOPMENT, UTILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE BUFFERS AND HEIGHT AND PROPERTY VALUES. SO AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THERE ARE THREE COMPONENTS TO THIS PROPOSED INITIATIVE. ONE OF THEM IS THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE, WHICH IS NOT PART OF THE COMMISSION'S ACTION THIS EVENING. THIS ORDINANCE IS NOT LOCATED IN THE ZONING CODE. IT PERTAINS TO FINANCIAL INCENTIVES FOR TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES LOOKING TO LOCATE OR EXPAND IN THE COUNTY. I WILL, I WILL BE OVER VIEWING THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE ORDINANCE BECAUSE IT IS COMPLEMENTARY TO THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT. THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE WILL ENCOMPASS THE SAME AREA AS THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT, WHICH WE WILL DETAIL LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE IS A TOOL THAT ALLOWS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES TO LOCATE IN OUR PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS IN GLAND COUNTY. SOME OF YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT IT'S COMMON PRACTICE TO INCENTIVIZE BUSINESSES TO LOCATE OR EXPAND IN A COUNTY. GLIN HAS GIVEN NUMEROUS INCENTIVES OVER THE YEARS TO, TO BUSINESSES SUCH AS CAPITAL ONE, HARDYWOOD AND THE RESIDENCE INN. THESE ARE DONE ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS AND BY WHAT IS KNOWN AS A PERFORMANCE AGREEMENT. FOR EACH INCENTIVE, WE PERFORM A RETURN ON INVESTMENT CALCULATION TO ENSURE THAT THE COUNTY IS MAKING A SMART INVESTMENT. BY OFFERING THE INCENTIVE RETURN ON INVESTMENTS, LOOK AT THE KINDS OF TAXES AND HOW MUCH TAXES WILL BE PAID OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. A PORTION OF THOSE TAXES ARE THEN REIMBURSED ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR A LIMITED TIME. FOR EXAMPLE, IN 2021, THE RESIDENTS INN RECEIVED AN INCENTIVE OF $200,000 TO BUILD THE COUNTY'S FIRST HOTEL. SINCE THAT TIME, THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED OVER $400,000 TO THE COMMERCIAL TAX BASE. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING WITH THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN THAT IT WILL ALLOW THE COUNTY THE ABILITY TO REIMBURSE BUILDING AND UTILITY FEES FOR TECHNOLOGY BUSINESSES TO LOCATE IN THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE. THESE ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES ADDS FLEXIBILITY TO ATTRACT HIGH REVENUE PRODUCING PROJECTS. FOR EXAMPLE, A UTILITY CONNECTION FEE FOR A HIGH WATER USER COULD BE AS HIGH AS $2 MILLION. THE COUNTY COULD LOOK AT THE FUTURE WATER USE AND THE TAX BENEFIT AND DETERMINE THAT THE CONNECTION FEE COULD POTENTIALLY BE REDUCED TO 1 MILLION. HAVING THIS TYPE OF FLEXIBILITY HELPS UH, BRING COMPETITIVE, UH, BUSINESSES TO GLAND COUNTY. SIMILAR TO THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT, THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE WILL DIRECT INVESTMENT TO AREAS OF THE COUNTY WHERE IT CAN BE SUPPORTED. THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES TO RECEIVE INCENTIVES AND WE PURPOSEFULLY MADE THESE REQUIREMENTS LOW BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ATTRACT TECHNOLOGY BUSINESSES OF ALL SIZES. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE MAY BE A SMALL AI OR FINANCIAL TECH COMPANY THAT IS CREATING SOFTWARE OR A SMALL ROBOTICS MANUFACTURING COMPANY THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO INCENTIVIZE FOR GROWTH. AGAIN, WE WILL PERFORM A RETURN ON INVESTMENT CALCULATION FOR EACH PROPOSAL TO ENSURE THAT THE COUNTY IS MAKING A SMART INVESTMENT. UH, YOU MIGHT BE ASKING WHAT DEFINES A TECHNOLOGY BUSINESS. A TECHNOLOGY BUSINESS MEANS A FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS, EITHER NEW TO THE COUNTY OR EXISTING, WHICH DERIVES ITS GROSS RECEIPTS FROM THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT MANUFACTURER CREATION OR LEASE OR SALE OF A TECHNOLOGY-BASED PRODUCTS OR PROCESSES. THE IMPORTANT REALLY THING TO NOTE HERE IS THAT THE DEFINITION IS COMPLIMENT TO THE USES THAT WE WILL DESCRIBE IN THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT. AND WE SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT THE BUSINESS MUST BE FOR PROFIT. EXAMPLES OF TECHNOLOGY BUSINESSES INCLUDE A DATA CENTER OR A MANUFACTURER OF TECHNOLOGY PRODUCTS SUCH AS CHIPS, PANELS, COMPUTER EQUIPMENT, OR A MANUFACTURER WHO USES DIGITAL ROBOTICS OR 3D MANUFACTURING METHODS. HERE IS A DEFINITION OF A TECHNOLOGY BUSINESS THAT I JUST OVERVIEW. OKAY, SO THAT WAS THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE. AGAIN, YOU GUYS DO NOT NEED TO VOTE ON THAT, BUT IT IS A COMPLIMENTARY ORDINANCE THAT YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF AS IT DOES AFFECT THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT. SO I'M GONNA DIVE INTO THE UM, TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT OR TOD AS WE HAVE BEEN REFERRING TO. SO FIRST TO START FROM THE BEGINNING, I WOULD LIKE TO ESTABLISH WHAT IS AN OVERLAY DISTRICT? AN OVERLAY DISTRICT IS A ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS IN ADDITION TO IT OVERLAYS EXISTING [00:35:01] ZONING OVERLAYS ARE TYPICALLY USED TO REGULATE DESIGN USE STANDARDS AND TYPES OF USES PERMITTED. AN OVERLAY DOES NOT REPLACE UNDERLYING ZONING. THERE ARE OVERLAY, CURRENT OVERLAY EXAMPLES IN GLAND COUNTY ALREADY WE HAVE OUR VILLAGE CENTER OVERLAYS SUCH AS OILVILLE COURTHOUSE AND CENTERVILLE. WE HAVE OUR ENTRANCE CORRIDOR OVERLAYS SUCH AS PATTERSON AVENUE AND RIVER ROAD. AND WE ALSO HAVE FLOODPLAIN AND DAM IN INUNDATION ZONE OVERLAYS. SO YOU MIGHT BE WONDERING WHAT IS A TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT? IT IS THE SAME IN THAT IT SUPPLEMENTS AND OVERLAYS THE UNDERLYING ZONING AS WE JUST DISCUSSED, BUT IT IS TARGETED FOR TECHNOLOGY USES SUCH AS DATA CENTERS AND ADVANCED MANUFACTURING. HOWEVER, VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE THOSE USES WILL BE SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS SUCH AS SETBACKS, BUFFERS AND DESIGN CRITERIA TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND PROTECT AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT. NOW WE ALL KNOW THAT GLIN IS VERY SPECIAL AND WE DO WANNA KEEP IT THAT WAY. THESE AMENDMENTS WILL HELP US PROTECT LAND OUTSIDE OF THE TOD BY SPECIFICALLY DIRECTING INVESTMENT TO AREAS THAT CAN SUPPORT AND ARE PLANNED FOR THIS TYPE OF GROWTH. THE TOD WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SECURITY FOR ADJACENT RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE EXIST. SINCE BOTH DATA CENTERS AND MANUFACTURING USES ARE ALLOWED BY WRIGHT AND WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK. I WILL DETAIL THAT FURTHER AGAIN IN OUR PRESENTATION. SO WHERE IS THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT GOING TO BE LOCATED TO ORIENTATE YOU THE PARCELS IN WHITE ON THIS MAP, EVERYTHING IN WHITE IS IN THE PROPOSED TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT TO THE EAST, WHICH IS THE RIGHT SIDE IS THE HENRICO COUNTY LINE. THE BLUE IN THE MIDDLE IS ROUTE 2 88. THE RED AT THE TOP IS INTERSTATE 64. COUNTY STAFF ANALYZED WATER, SEWER, ROAD ELECTRICAL AND NATURAL GAS INFRASTRUCTURE TO DETERMINE AREAS THAT WE THOUGHT THE TOD COULD BE MOST APPROPRIATE. WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION EXISTING ZONING AND LARGE TRACKS OF DEVELOPABLE LAND TO DETERMINE THOSE AREAS. THE PROPOSED TOD BOUNDARY ENCOMPASSES AROUND 2% OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND ABOUT 21% OF OUR EAST END DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA. NOW I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF COLORS ON THIS MAP, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE AREA IN THE PROPOSED TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT IS DESIGNATED PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE GRAY. THE OTHERS ARE INDUSTRIAL, FLEXIBLE, OR OFFICE ALL IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. SO IN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE ARE TAKING PROPERTY THAT WAS ALREADY PLANNED FOR SOME TYPE OF COMMERCIAL GROWTH INTO THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT. HERE IS OUR ZONING MAP. AGAIN, LOTS OF COLORS, UH, BUT IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE LAND AND THE TOD IS ALREADY ZONED INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS THIS PURPLE HERE ON THE MAP. THIS IS WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK AND IT'S ALL ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL USES NOW. SO I WOULD LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT WILL BE APPLIED. SO THE PERMITTED USES OF AN UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT WILL CONTINUE IN IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BASE ZONING. FOR EXAMPLE, A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IN AN AGRICULTURAL LIMITED CONTINUES TO BE PERMITTED. VETERINARY HOSPITALS AND INDUSTRIAL WILL CONTINUE TO BE PERMITTED. THE USES PERMITTED ONLY, UH, USES PERMITTED ONLY UNDER THE TOD MUST COMPLY WITH TOD STANDARDS. SO EXAMPLE, A DATA CENTER UNDER THE TOD IN AN AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT MUST MEET ALL APPLICABLE TOD PROVISIONS. AND LASTLY, PERMITTED TOD USES THAT ACCEPT THE INCENTIVES WE JUST REVIEWED UNDER THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE MUST COMPLY WITH TOD STANDARDS. EXAMPLE, A DATA CENTER LOOKING TO LOCATE IN AN M1 ZONING DISTRICT IS ALLOWED BY W RIGHT? AND IF THEY ACCEPT TECHNOLOGY ZONE INCENTIVES, THEY UH, MUST COMPLY WITH THE TOD STANDARDS. SO AGAIN, WHAT IS A TECHNOLOGY BUSINESS? IT'S THE SAME TYPE OF BUSINESS WE JUST OUTLINED IN THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE. UM, DATA CENTER MANUFACTURING OF TECHNOLOGY PRODUCTS OR MANUFACTURER WHO USE ROBOTICS OR 3D MANUFACTURING METHODS. UH, [00:40:01] EXAMPLES COULD BE THE RECENT ELI LILLY ANNOUNCEMENT OR THE LEGO, UH, THAT RECENTLY ANNOUNCED IN CHESTERFIELD. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GET INTO SOME OF THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE TOD. SO THERE'S TWO TYPES OF USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE TODA USE THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND AN ACCESSORY USE. SO THE FIRST ONE WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS EVENING IS A BY RIGHT USE. A BUYRIGHT USE IS ALLOWED TO LOCATE WITHOUT FURTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS AT A LOCAL LEVEL. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THOSE USES ARE NOT REGULATED. THE BY RIGHT USES STILL MUST MEET ALL APPLICABLE LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS, WHICH COULD INCLUDE ADDITIONAL INPUT AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVELS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT SEVERAL OF THESE USES SUCH AS ADVANCED MANUFACTURING AND DATA CENTERS ARE ALREADY ALLOWED IN WEST CREEK. THESE USES ON THE SCREEN WERE STRATEGICALLY CHOSEN BECAUSE THEY EITHER ARE HIGH REVENUE PRODUCING USERS OR THEY ACT AS A SUPPORT SYSTEM TO HIGH REVENUE PROJECTS. THE SECOND TYPE OF USE IS AN ACCESSORY USE. THE ACCESSORY USES ARE ONLY ALLOWED TO SUPPORT ONE OF THE MAIN USES WE JUST DISCUSSED AN IMPORTANT NOTE BY RIGHT DOES NOT MEAN FREE FROM OVERSIGHT. ALL USES ARE STILL SUBJECT TO LOCAL, STATE AND FEDERAL REGULATIONS INCLUDING AIR EMISSIONS, BUILDING CODE ZONING, ENVIRONMENTAL AND STORMWATER COMPLIANCE. I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT UTILITY GENERATING STATIONS. WE, UH, HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC THAT THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT DATA CENTER'S ENERGY USAGE. GLIN IS TRYING TO BE FORWARD THINKING AND WANTS TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENERGY RESILIENCY. WE ARE LIMITING UTILITY GENERATING STATIONS TO TWO USES ONLY A SMALL MODULAR REACTOR AND A GAS PEAKING PLANT. IN ADDITION, WE ARE LIMITING THE AREA WHERE THOSE USES CAN GO. PLEASE SEE THE AREA IN BLUE ON THE MAP. SPECIFICALLY, THESE USES ARE ONLY ALLOWED WHERE IT'S DESIGNATED INDUSTRIAL OR FLEXIBLE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN INSIDE THE TOD BOUNDARIES. IN ADDITION, WE LAYERED IN ADDED PROTECTION THAT THESE USES MUST BE 1500 FEET FROM A RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND THE COUNTY LINE. SO TO REPEAT, THE UTILITY GENERATING STATION IS ONLY ALLOWED IN THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE TOD IN THE AREAS THAT ARE SHADED IN BLUE, 1500 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL. AND THE COUNTY LINE HERE IS A SCREENSHOT OF OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SHOWING THOSE AREAS SPECIFICALLY THAT THEY ARE, UM, PLANNED INDUSTRIAL AND FLEXIBLE. IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THE SAME LEVEL OF ATTENTION AND THOUGHT WAS GIVEN TO WHERE WE SHOULD BE LOCATING ENERGY STORAGE. THIS USE WOULD ALSO BE RESTRICTED 1500 FEET FROM ZONED RESIDENTIAL AND THE COUNTY LINE AND ONLY ALLOWED WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF ROUTE 2 88 AND I 64 AS DEMONSTRATED IN BLUE. IN ADDITION, WE ARE LIMITING THE BATTERY TYPE AND REQUIRING A SITING AGREEMENT. SO THE ONLY AREAS WHERE YOU CAN DO ENERGY STORAGE BY RIGHT IS IN THIS BLUE SHADED AREA ALONG THE INTERIOR OF 2 88 AND I 64, 1500 FEET FROM RESIDENTIAL AND THE COUNTY LINE. SO NOW WE'RE GONNA DIVE INTO SOME OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT HOW PROPERTIES CAN DEVELOP UNDER THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT AND WHETHER THEY CAN DEVELOP BY RIGHT. SO I HOPE TO PROVIDE SOME CLARITY OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL SLIDES. THERE ARE TWO DEVELOPMENT PATHS FOR PROPERTIES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE TOD FOR UH, PROPERTIES. ON THE LEFT SLIDE HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE. THESE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURE AND WOULD HAVE TO CONFORM TO ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT I'M GOING TO PRESENT IF THEY WANTED TO DEVELOP AS A DATA CENTER OR ADVANCED MANUFACTURING FOR THE PROPERTIES ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE, THESE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DEVELOP UNDER THE TOD REGULATIONS OR CHOOSE TO DEVELOP UNDER THEIR BASE ZONING. YOU MIGHT BE ASKING YOURSELF WHY WOULD SOMEONE CHOOSE TO DEVELOP UNDER THE TOD REGULATIONS IF THEY COULD DO IT BY RIGHT? THAT IS WHERE THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE INCENTIVES AND THE ADDED HEIGHT ALLOWANCES COME INTO PLAY. IF ONE OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE FINANCIAL INCENTIVES [00:45:01] OF THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE OR WANTED TO GO HIGHER THAN 60 FEET WITHOUT ANY ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEVELOP UNDER THE TOD STANDARDS. SO I WANNA TAKE A MOMENT AND JUST REPEAT MYSELF BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT. THE PROPERTIES HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SLIDE HAVE THE ABILITY TODAY TO DEVELOP DATA CENTERS AND ADVANCED MANUFACTURING USES AS PART OF THEIR BASE ZONING M1. THAT MEANS AS EARLY AS TOMORROW A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION MAY BE FILED TO DEVELOP A DATA CENTER ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL WITH NO NOISE PROTECTION AND VERY LIMITED BUFFERS. I WILL GO INTO DETAILS FURTHER IN MY PRESENTATION. FIRST, LET'S TACKLE OUTSIDE OF WEST CREEK DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO. SO ALL THE PROPERTIES IF THEY WANTED TO DEVELOP IN A TOD USE IN THESE PROPERTIES OUTLINED, UH, ON THE SCREEN MUST MEET ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. THOSE ARE A CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN, SIGN, DESIGN, PACKAGE, NOISE, HEIGHT, LIGHTING, FENCING, BUILDING DESIGN AND MATERIALS, SCREENING OF EQUIPMENT, LANDSCAPING, BUFFER SETBACKS, AND AN OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT. SO TO DETAIL THOSE SPECIFICALLY, THESE STANDARDS ARE INTENDED TO ADDRESS IMPACTS AND PROMOTE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. SO WE ARE, UH, REGULATING LIGHTING MUST BE DARK SKY COMPLIANT. WE ARE REGULATING THE AREA WHERE FENCING CAN GO. WE ARE CHANGING THE DATA CENTER PARKING STANDARDS. WE'RE REQUIRING A CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN, A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT ASSIGNED A BA DESIGN PACKAGE AND, UH, BUILDING DESIGN MATERIALS AND OPEN SPACE. IN ADDITION, UH, BUFFERS AND SCREENING OF THE USES FROM 64 AND 2 88 BUFFERS FOR THE PERIMETER OF THE MASTER PLAN SETBACKS UP TO 300 FEET DEPENDENT ON THE ADJACENT ZONING AND ROAD TYPE BUFFERS UP TO 250 FEET DEPENDENT ON ADJACENT ZONING AND THEN BUFFERS ALONG THE ROADS DEPENDING ON THE ROAD TYPE 150 TO A HUNDRED TO 35 FEET. SO TO GET INTO EVEN MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE NOISE, UH, WE ARE SETTING RESTRICTIONS ON NOISE. THESE STANDARDS ARE INTENDED TO MITIGATE USERS THAT MAY HAVE IMPACT UPON ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. WE ARE LIMITING NOISE TO 65 DECIBELS DURING THE DAY AND 60 AND UH, OVERNIGHT. THAT MEASUREMENT COULD BE AT ANY LOCATION WITHIN AN ADJACENT RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY. THE NOISE RESTRICTIONS DOES NOT DO NOT APPLY TO SOUNDS GENERATED BY CONSTRUCTION OR GENERATORS OPERATING DURING AN EMERGENCY OR DURING GENERATOR TESTING. GENERATOR TESTING IS LIMITED TO TWO HOURS PER DAY BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 10:00 AM AND 5:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. IN ADDITION, A NOISE SOUND STUDY SHALL BE SUBMITTED WITH THE INITIAL PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT DETAILING THE HOW THE NOISE LIMIT WILL BE MET OR WAYS TO MITIGATE THE SOUNDS TO MEET THE LIMITS. A SECOND SOUND STUDY. VERIFYING COMPLIANCE WITH THE NOISE LIMITS UNDER OPERATING CONDITIONS MUST BE PROVIDED WITHIN THREE MONTHS OF OPERATION. ADDITIONAL STUDIES UP TO FOUR ANNUALLY MUST BE PROVIDED AT THE REQUEST OF THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR UPON ANY ALTERATIONS OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE FACILITY OR EQUIPMENT OR TO INVESTIGATE A NOISE COMPLAINT. ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT DID CAUSE CONCERN FROM OUR FIRST COMMUNITY MEETING. IN OUR SECOND IS HEIGHT, AN EVALUATION OF SOME TYPICAL USERS OF THE TECHNOLOGY USES. WE FOUND THAT SOME MAY NEED INCREASED HEIGHT BEYOND THE BASE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS OF 60 AND 80. WE ARE PROPOSING TO ALLOW AN INCREASED HEIGHT LIMIT BUT WANT TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT ON NEARBY PROPERTIES. WE ARE NOW RECOMMENDING AN INCREASED SETBACK FOR INCREASED HEIGHT. IN ADDITION, WE RECOGNIZE THAT DATA CENTERS HAVE BEEN A MAIN CONCERN, SO WE WERE ADDING IN AN INCREASED SETBACK AND BUFFER FOR DATA CENTER USE. NOW THERE IS A 250 FOOT VEGETATIVE BUFFER AND A 300 FOOT SETBACK FOR ALL DATA CENTERS LOCATED NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL. IN ADDITION, IF A USE WANTS TO GO HIGHER THAN 60 FEET, THERE IS INCREASED SETBACKS UP TO 600 FEET DEPENDING ON THE HEIGHT. BUFFERS ARE AN IMPORTANT WAY TO HELP MITIGATE VISUAL AND AUDITORY IMPACTS. OUR BASE ORDINANCE BUFFER REQUIREMENTS ARE INSUFFICIENT, SO WE'RE PROPOSING MUCH MORE SUBSTANTIAL BUFFER REQUIREMENTS. THE PROPOSED, UH, THE BUFFERS PROPOSED WITH THE TOD ARE DENSE AND INCLUDE A VARIETY OF PLANT MATERIALS. THESE ARE DESIGNED TO BE MORE LIKE NATURAL AREAS AND NOT LANDSCAPING. AS THE BUFFER VEGETATION MATURES, THE DISTRIBUTION AND VARIETY PREVENTS THE LOSS OF BUFFER OVER SEASONAL CH CHANGES CREATING A MUCH BETTER VISUAL [00:50:01] IMPACT. IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE AREA IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED WITH TREES. THE TOD WILL REQUIRE THAT IT REMAIN IN ITS NATURAL STATE. IT CAN BE SUPPLEMENTED BUT NOT DESTROYED THESE REQUIREMENTS SHOWN OR FOR AREAS WITHOUT ADEQUATE NATURAL BUFFER. HERE IS A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT A 60 FOOT BUILDING COULD LOOK LIKE. UTILIZING TOD RESTRICTIONS, NOTICE THE VARIATION IN BUILDING HEIGHT WITH THE STEP BACKS HERE AND RECESSES TO BREAK UP THE BUILDING MASS THAT YOU CAN SEE ALONG THIS WALL. HERE THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR FENESTRATIONS. AN EXAMPLE IS THE FAUX WINDOWS THAT WE'VE SHOWN HERE. ACCESSORY EQUIPMENT MUST BE SCREENED HERE AND ON THE BACKSIDE. AND AGAIN, THOSE, UH, SIGNIFICANT BUFFERS FROM A COLLECTOR ROAD AND FROM RESIDENTIAL AND THEN SMALLER BUFFERS IF IT'S ADJACENT TO COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY. HERE'S A SIDE VIEW OF A 60 FOOT TALL BUILDING, A DATA CENTER SEPARATED BY A 250 FOOT BUFFER AND A 300 FOOT SETBACK FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THIS IS THE SIDE VIEW OF A 60 FOOT TALL BUILDING SEPARATED BY A 200 FOOT BUFFER. THIS IS THE SIDE VIEW OF AN 80 FOOT TALL BUFFER SEPARATED BY 200 FEET BUFFER AND A 500 FOOT SETBACK. AND THEN LASTLY, THE SIDE VIEW OF 120 FOOT TALL BUILDING SEPARATED BY 200 FOOT BUFFER AND A 600 FOOT SETBACK FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND LASTLY, WE DID A PERSPECTIVE VIEW OF AN 80 FOOT TALL AND 120 FOOT TALL BUILDING FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA SEPARATED BY 200 FEET BUFFER AT 500 AND 600 FOOT SETBACK. IF YOU ARE STANDING AT GROUND LEVEL ADJACENT, IT IS FULLY HIDDEN. SO LET'S DIG BACK INTO THAT SECOND DEVELOPMENT PATH FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED INSIDE OF WEST CREEK. SO WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THOSE LOCATED OUTSIDE OF WEST CREEK. EVERYTHING I JUST OUTLINED WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THESE PROPERTIES OUTSIDE OF WEST CREEK FOR THE PROPERTIES INSIDE OF WEST CREEK. DETAILED, UH, HERE THESE PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY ZONED INDUSTRIAL AND AGAIN, CAN CHOOSE TO DEVELOP UNDER THE TOD REGULATIONS ARE CHOOSE TO DEVELOP UNDER THEIR BY RIGHT ZONING, THEIR BASE ZONING. SO I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO PAUSE TO BRING ATTENTION TO THIS SLIDE BECAUSE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION. THE PROPERTIES IN BLUE ON THIS SLIDE ARE IN WEST CREEK. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TODAY TO DEVELOP DATA CENTERS AND ADVANCED MANUFACTURING USES AS PART OF THEIR BASE M1 ZONING. THAT MEANS, AGAIN, AS EARLY AS TOMORROW, A PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT CAN BE FILED TO DEVELOP DATA CENTERS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL WITH NO NOISE PROTECTION AND VERY LITTLE BUFFERS. THE TOD PROVIDES PROTECTIONS SUCH AS NOISE AND LARGER BUFFERS THAT WOULD NOT OTHERWISE EXIST IF A PROPERTY WERE TO DEVELOP UNDER THE BY RIGHT. THERE ARE SOME OTHER BASE ZONING STANDARDS THAT ARE ALREADY PART OF WEST CREEK'S, PROFFERS AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS. THOSE ARE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS. OPEN SPACE OF 30% SCREENING OF EQUIPMENT AND OUTDOOR STORAGE AND PERIMETER BUFFERS. THOSE PERIMETER BUFFERS ARE A HUNDRED FOOT ADJACENT TO EXISTING RESIDENCES THAT WERE EXISTING PRIOR TO 1987. THIS DOES NOT PROVIDE PROTECTION TO RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE COME IN AFTER 1987. THERE IS A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ALONG ROUTE SIX, HOCKET ROAD AND BROAD STREET. OTHER THAN THAT IT'S 50 FEET FROM OTHER PROPERTIES. SO HERE'S AN IMAGE OF THE SIDE VIEW OF A 60 FOOT TALL BUILDING SEPARATED BY A 35 FOOT BUFFER, WHICH COULD BE READER'S BRANCH OPEN SPACE AND A 50 FOOT BUFFER AND SETBACK FROM A RESIDENTIAL AREA. THIS IS WHAT IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN TO TODAY. WE ARE PROPOSING UNDER THE TODA FOR A DATA CENTER SEPARATED BY 250 FEET BUFFER AND A 300 FOOT SETBACK. SO IF I GO BACK, THIS IS WHAT'S ALLOWED TODAY. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. [00:55:02] SO THE KIND OF THIRD SCENARIO FOR WEST CREEK IS IF THEY DEVELOPED UNDER THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT STANDARDS. SO WHAT WE JUST REVIEWED WAS IF THEY DEVELOPED BUYRIGHT TOMORROW, NOT UNDER THE TOD, IF THEY WANNA DEVELOP UNDER THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO IF, IF A USER WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF FINANCIAL INCENTIVES OR WANTED TO GO HIGHER THAN 60 FEET ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL ZONE PROPERTY WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO TOD RESTRICTIONS, INCLUDING THE NOISE ORDINANCE THAT WE PREVIOUSLY REVIEWED AND THE TOD MANDATED SETBACKS AND BUFFERS FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT WE REVIEWED EARLIER. IN ADDITION, WEST CREEK HAS THE ROBUST PROPERS AND RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT WOULD REQUIRE ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, LANDSCAPING OPEN SPACE OF 30% AND SCREENING OF EQUIPMENT. THE BUFFER VEGETATION WOULD BE REQUIRED THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER. AND THIS COULD BE WHAT A DATA CENTER COULD LOOK LIKE UNDER THE TOD REGULATIONS, EVEN IF THEY DEVELOPED IN WEST CREEK UNDER THE TOD REG REGULATIONS. AGAIN, THOSE SAME UH, REGULATIONS WOULD APPLY FOR BUILDINGS, BUFFERS AND SETBACKS FROM RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT WE REVIEWED EARLIER HOOK. OKAY, SO I AM WRAPPING UP . I JUST WANT TO, UH, FORMALLY PRESENT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT THAT DOES COINCIDE WITH THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT. AS STAFF CONSIDERED THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY CONCEPT. WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE PLANNING AREA, FOR THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THAT IT SHOULD RESIDE WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THEREFORE, WE ARE PROPOSING AN AMENDMENT TO THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ESTABLISH TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT AS A CATEGORY UNDER LAND PLANNING AREAS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT DOES NOT PROVIDE EXACT LOCATIONS OF THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT IS DONE IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MAY ADOPT OR AMEND THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT IN THE FUTURE. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE ANTICIPATED NEXT STEPS FOR THIS PROCESS. THERE IS A TOWN HALL, UH, BEING HELD BY MR. LYLE ON SEPTEMBER 22ND, DISTRICT FIVE AT HOPE CHURCH AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS PUBLIC HEARING IS NOVEMBER 6TH, 2025, HERE AT THE GLAND HIGH SCHOOL, 6:00 PM THAT IS WHERE WE ANTICIPATE DEPENDING ON COMMISSION ACTION THIS EVENING, FINAL ACTION ON THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT AND COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AMENDMENT AND TECHNOLOGY ZONE. AND WITH THAT COMMISSION, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I SAW A LOT OF THINGS THAT MAYBE THEY WERE IN THERE BEFORE, BUT I DIDN'T REALLY NOTICE THEM BEFORE. I JUST WANNA BE REALLY CLEAR. UM, CURRENTLY THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE BOUNDED BY QUESTION, A QUESTION. OH. SO RIGHT NOW THE COMMISSION IS ASKING QUESTIONS OF STAFF. THEY HAVE NOT OPENED TO PUBLIC HEARING. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO, UM, THE CURRENTLY THESE RESIDENTIAL AREAS ARE BOUNDED BY A TWO PROPERTIES AND M1 PROPERTIES. AND WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY TODAY IS THAT CURRENTLY M ANYBODY WHO HAS AN M1 PROPERTY EVEN ADJACENT TO THESE, UH, I GUESS IT'S ON SLIDE 26 IF YOU WANTED TO GO THERE. UM, M1 PROPERTIES, UM, THEY CAN BUILD RIGHT NOW A DATA CENTER. THEY COULD HAVE BUILT A DATA CENTER LAST WEEK. LAST YEAR, THEY HAVEN'T, BUT THEY, THEY COULD HAVE, UM, AND THEY COULD HAVE DONE IT 50 FEET UP TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND 60 FEET TALL WITH ARE THERE REQUIREMENTS FOR A VEGETATIVE BUFFER ON CURRENTLY RAY REQUIREMENTS FOR A VEGETATIVE BUFFER UNDER CURRENT ZONING? WEST CREEK? UH, WEST CREEK, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT 50 FEET BUFFER AS YOU OUTLINED EARLIER, DEPENDING ON LOCATION. ALRIGHT, SO, SO IT WOULD BE A 50 FOOT VEGETATIVE BUFFER, 50 FOOT SETBACK. SO IT HAS BE NOT JUST A SETBACK, IT'S A, IT'S A VEGETATIVE BUFFER. OKAY. UH, AND UM, AND THE, YOU, I BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT THE NOISE RESTRICTIONS RIGHT NOW DON'T EXIST. THERE ARE NO NOISE RESTRICTIONS? THAT IS CORRECT. [01:00:01] ALRIGHT. SO THAT'S WHAT'S POSSIBLE RIGHT NOW. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE TOD ACTUALLY PROVIDES A LOT OF PROTECTION FOR THESE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, IF, IF THE M1 PROPERTIES WANTED TO DEVELOP A DATA CENTER IN THE FUTURE, YES, ASSUMING THAT THESE, UH, M1 PROPERTY OWNERS WANT TO BUY INTO THESE, UH, RESTRICTIONS, UH, WHICH IS WHY YOU'VE CREATED INCENTIVES, UH, BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO DO WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEIR PROPERTY RIGHTS RIGHT NOW. SO, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S UP TO THEM. AND, AND, AND BY BY THAT THEY CAN'T BE TOO OPPRESSIVE. UH, SO 60 DECIBELS, I I'VE SEEN PEOPLE SAYING WE SHOULD MAKE IT 30. WELL, MAKING IT 30 PROBABLY ISN'T GONNA GET ANYBODY TO BUY IN . ALL RIGHT. AND SO THAT'S THE M ONES, THE A TWO PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW CANNOT BUILD BECAUSE THEY'RE A TWO A DATA CENTER. BY PUTTING THE TOD ON TOP OF THEM, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO BUILD A DATA CENTER, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE WITH THE TOD RESTRICTIONS. THAT IS CORRECT. UH, AND RIGHT NOW IF SOMEBODY OWNED A, AN A TWO PROPERTY AND WANTED TO PUT A DATA CENTER ON THERE, THEY'D HAVE TO BRING IT TO THIS BOARD, THIS COMMISSION FOR REZONING, AND THEN GO TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR REZONING. UH, IF THEY DID THAT, WOULD THEY, IT IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT, WHAT RESTRICTIONS THEY WOULD BE HELD TO. I GUESS IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHO THE FIVE PEOPLE ARE SITTING HERE AND WHO THE FIVE PEOPLE ARE SITTING ON THE OTHER BOARD. UM, AND SO IT'S UNDEFINED REALLY, THIS ADDS A LAYER OF SPECIFICITY TO THE REQUIREMENTS, UH, WHICH I THINK IS A, A GOOD THING. SO I JUST WANTED TO BE REAL CLEAR ABOUT THAT. UM, LET'S SEE. GENERATOR TESTING. CAN YOU SAY WHY THAT HAS BEEN EX EXCLUDED FROM THE NOISE ORDINANCE? IT CAN BE TWO HOURS EVERY SINGLE DAY AND IT, AND IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT RESTRICTED OR IS IT RESTRICTED TO SIX? NO, IT'S NOT RESTRICTED AT ALL. UH, GENERATED TESTING IS, IS NOT RESTRICTED. IT IS LIMITED TO TWO HOURS PER DAY, BETWEEN 10:00 AM AND 5:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. OKAY. THAT SEEMS LIKE A A A LOT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I WAS READING OR HEARING THAT PROPERLY. AND ARE THERE ANY, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR BERMS? I DON'T THINK I HEARD. NOT, NOT CURRENTLY. NOT CURRENTLY. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. ALTHOUGH I, I WILL SAY, UM, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO DO, UM, A SOUND WHEN THEY SUBMIT THEIR NOISE STUDY. THEY ARE REQUIRED TO, UH, DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO ATTENUATE THAT SOUND DOWN TO THE DECIBEL LEVEL THAT IS SPECIFIED. SO IF A BERM IS ONE WAY FOR THEM TO ATTENUATE THAT SOUND, THAT COULD BE PART OF HOW THEY GO ABOUT DOING THAT. WE ARE NOT EXACTLY REQUIRING IT IN THE ORDINANCE, BUT IT DOES ALLOW FLEXIBILITY FOR THEM TO BE ABLE, THEY COULD DO IT WITH A SOUND WALL, THEY COULD DO IT WITH A BERM. THEY COULD DO IT VARIOUS DIFFERENT WAYS. UM, SO IT COULD BE AN OPTION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM THE COMMISSION, MR. MCLAUGHLIN? YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SMALL MODULAR REACTORS. UM, I UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF THEM AND THAT WE DON'T WANT OUR, OUR THE POWER TO BE DRAINED, THE HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO. UH, BUT I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE IN THE TOD OR THE, UH, RESTRICTIONS, ARE THEY ALLOWED TO SELL THE ENERGY THAT THEY'RE CREATING OR IS IT JUST FOR THAT FACILITY? THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THIS AREA THAT WE HAVE OUTLINED IN BLUE THAT'S LIMITED AS A BUYRIGHT USE, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONNECT TO THE GRID AND SELL THEIR ENERGY. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTION FROM THE COMMISSION? THANK YOU MS. WARLEY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AS WE MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASE OF THIS, UM, THIS COMMISSION MEETING, WE WILL NOW, UH, GETTING TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. BUT I'M GONNA GO THROUGH SOME, UM, SOME HOUSEKEEPING IF YOU WILL, AND SOME RULES, UH, THAT WE WILL FOLLOW. UH, BEFORE WE GET INTO THIS, UM, THIS PERIOD OF THE MEETING, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE, WE WELCOME ALL OF THOSE, THE MANY RESIDENTS WHO HAVE, [01:05:01] UH, BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE IN THIS PROCESS. AND WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE, UH, WHO WANTS TO SPEAK AT THIS PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT, BECAUSE THERE ARE A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE HERE. WE WOULD, UM, WE WOULDN'T ALLOW EVERYONE WHO IS SIGNED UP, UM, ELECTRONICALLY. IN OTHER WORDS, THEY WENT ONLINE AND THEY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TONIGHT FOR THIS MEETING. AND THIS LIST IS BEING USED TO HELP US BETTER MANAGE THIS PUBLIC FORUM TONIGHT AND TO MOVE EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY THROUGH THIS PROCESS, DURING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, WE ARE GOING TO BE CALLING UP SPEAKERS IN GROUPS. SO MADAM CLERK WILL CALL THE FIRST GROUP, IT WILL BE, UH, 10 OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS. UM, AND THEN AFTER THAT WE WILL, AND THEY WILL SIT RIGHT IN THE FRONT ROW. THE ROPES HAVE JUST BEEN MOVED, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SIT THERE IN THE RESERVE SEATING AREA AFTER THOSE 10 FINISH, THEN WE WILL CALL GROUPS UP IN NUMBERS OF FIVE. UM, THEY, UH, WE WANT TO ALSO TO USE THE MICROPHONES THAT ARE IN FRONT, AND TWO, WE ASKED AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE STAND, UM, AT THE MICROPHONE AT A TIME OR ONE BEHIND EACH OTHER THAT THEREFORE THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE CAN BE ABLE TO SEE THE SCREEN AND, UH, AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS FOR THOSE WHO DIDN'T SIGN UP ELECTRONICALLY, UM, THAT YOU HAVEN'T, YOU WEREN'T ABLE TO SIGN UP OR YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU COULD SIGN UP, WE STILL WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. UM, SO EVERYONE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS, WHETHER IT'S THIS EVENING AT OR AT OUR FOLLOW UP. UM, MEETING ON NEXT THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 25TH, 2025 AT SIX 30 HERE IN THE GOLIN, UH, HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM FOR THOSE CITIZENS WHO ARE YIELDING YOUR TIME. IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WE SAW EARLIER WHERE, UM, A A A YOUNG LADY GOT UP AND YIELDED HER TIME TO A GENTLEMAN. UM, FOR THOSE WHO ARE YIELDING THEIR TIME TO, FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO SPEAK, YOU CAN COME UP TO THE PODIUM WITH THAT PERSON THAT YOU'RE YIELDING YOUR TIME TO STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN YOU MAY RETURN TO YOUR SEAT AND LET THAT INDIVIDUAL MAKE THEIR PRESENTATION IN TERMS OF, UM, JUST THE LEVEL OF THE QUORUM THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE. AND I THANK YOU FOR WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE SO FAR, AND SO DOES COMMISSION THANK YOU, UH, FOR HOW THINGS HAVE GONE SO FAR. WE ASK THAT YOU, UH, DO NOT, UH, ENGAGE IN CLAPPING, JEERING, SNEERING, BOOING, HISSING ANYTHING ELSE THAT, UH, IS JUST, UH, UNBECOMING, UH, OF US BEING WONDERFUL GLAND COUNTY RESIDENT. UM, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE. WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY AND THE PROPER TIME TO SAY WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID. ANYONE WHO HAS PURCHASED OR BOUGHT OR MADE SIGNS, WE ASK THAT YOU KEEP THOSE SIGNS IN THE BACK, THEREFORE YOU'RE NOT, UM, BLOCKING THE VIEW OF OTHERS, UH, WHO ARE TRYING TO, AGAIN, LOOK AT THE BOARD OR, UM, BE ENGAGED WITH THOSE WHO ARE, ARE SPEAKING, UH, AS WELL. AND WE ALSO ASK THAT THOSE WHO COME FORWARD TO THE MICROPHONE, THAT YOU ENGAGE US AS THE COMMISSION AND NOT THE AUDIENCE, UH, AS WELL. AND AGAIN, WE, WE ARE LOOKING TO END BY 11 O'CLOCK OR AT AT THAT HOUR, UH, AS SHARED EARLIER. SO WE DO WANT TO HEAR FROM EVERYONE. UM, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T EXHAUST YOU OR OURSELVES, UH, WITH A MEETING THAT GOES ON ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. BUT WE ALL WANT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ENGAGED, UH, AS A COMMUNITY, AS GLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS. UM, AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE ARE THOUGHTFUL AND CONSIDERATE OF, OF YOUR TIME AND OUR TIME AS WELL. SO ACCORDINGLY, WE ARE COMMITTED TO BEING HERE TO 11 O'CLOCK TONIGHT. AND, UM, IF THERE ARE STILL SPEAKERS OR DELIBERATIONS THAT NEED TO OCCUR AT THE 11 O'CLOCK HOUR, THEN WE WILL HAVE ARRANGED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ITEM TO REMAIN OPEN AND CONTINUED, UH, AGAIN NEXT THURSDAY AT, UM, THAT PARTICULAR DAY, WHICH IS NEXT THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 25TH IN THIS PARTICULAR ROOM. AND THE SAME TIME THAT WE ARE MEETING NOW. ONCE YOUR NAME IS CALLED, UM, BY THE CLERK, PLEASE COME FORWARD AGAIN. SHE'S GONNA READ 10 NAMES. WE'RE GONNA START IT FROM GROUP OF 10 AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GO TO FIVE. UM, WE ASK THAT YOU COME UP AND OF COURSE YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK UNLESS YOU HAVE, UM, UNLESS YOU HAVE TIME, UH, BEING CITED TO YOU IN WHICH ALL PARTIES, UH, THEN WILL, UH, COME FORWARD. WE HAVE A TIME, UH, KEEPING SYSTEM. UH, WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, YOU WILL HEAR A BUZZ AND THEN WE [01:10:01] WILL ASK, UH, THAT YOU WOULD JUST KINDLY RETURN TO YOUR SEAT AND YIELD YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE. AGAIN. WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, WE ASK THAT YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, UM, SO THAT WE WILL HAVE THAT FOR THE RECORD. AGAIN, WE ASK THAT THE LEVEL OF DECORUM, UH, STAY AS WONDERFUL AS IT HAS BEEN TONIGHT. UH, AGAIN, THAT WE WILL KEEP OUR, UH, EMOTIONS AND OUR FEELINGS, UM, TO OURSELVES. BUT WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE, UH, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU COMING OUT TONIGHT BEING A CONCERNED CITIZEN, BEING AN ENGAGED CITIZEN, UM, BEING AN INFORMED CITIZEN, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR PROCESS. SO WE THANK YOU AND, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO NOW OPENING THIS PUBLIC HEARING. MADAM CLERK? YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, GOOD EVENING. WE WILL BEGIN BY CALLING FORWARD INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SEED THEIR TIME TO A GROUP REPRESENTATIVE WILL JULIE CLEMENTS, RALPH PREY, CARRIE KAISER, SUSAN LITTLE CONRAD SPICER, STEVE SEL, JOHN PILLA AND ARNOLD ROSENBERG. PLEASE COME TO THE BLUE MICROPHONE. ALSO, WILL GERALD HAASS AND CYNTHIA HAASS, PLEASE COME TO THE WHITE MICROPHONE TO SPEAK ONCE MR. ROSENBERG HAS FINISHED HIS REMARKS. IT'S UM, THEIR SEATING TIME. SEATING TIME. JULIE, GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JULIE CLEMENTS. I LIVE AT 1 2 0 5 3 VERA TERRACE AND I SEED MY TIME TO ARNOLD ROSENBERG. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CONRAD SPICER. I LIVE AT 1 2 0 4 VERA TERRACE IN THE MOSAIC SUBDIVISION AND I SEED MY TIME TO ARNOLD ROSENBERG. THANK YOU SIR. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS STEVE LEY. I LIVE AT 93 15 CITRINE RUN IN MOSAIC CREEK AND I SEAT MY TIME TO ARNOLD ROSENBERG. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS CARRIE KAISER. I'M 1 5 1 1 5 6 3 9 MOSAIC CREEK BOULEVARD. I SEED MY TIME TO ARNE ROSENBERG. THANK YOU, SIR. MY NAME IS SUSAN LITTLE, I LIVE AT 92 69 ILIAN PLACE AND I SEED MY TIME TO ARNOLD ROSENBERG. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS RALPH PREE. MY WIFE AND I RESIDE AT 7 0 0 6 BISK TERRACE IN MOSAIC WEST CREEK. I SEED MY TIME TO ARNE ROSENBERG. THANK YOU SIR. MY NAME IS JOHN PCHA. I LIVE AT 1 2 0 3 2 AVARA TERRACE AND I YIELD MY TIME TO ARNOLD ROSENBERG. THANK YOU MR. ROSENBERG. GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. YOUR, YOUR NAME, I'M SORRY. OH, I APOLOGIZE. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. MY NAME IS ARNOLD ROSENBERG. I RESIDE AT 1 4 0 0 3 MOSAIC NOOK AND I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OF THE MOSAIC AT WEST CREEK. A 55 AND OLDER ACTIVE ADULT COMMUNITY OF 500 HOMES AND 1000 VOTING RESIDENTS. A GREAT AMERICAN WARNED, A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF CANNOT STAND. HE SPOKE OF A NATION TORN APART. TONIGHT, GWIN COUNTY FACES A SIMILAR TEST. WE CANNOT BE HALF COMMUNITY AND HALF INDUSTRIAL PARK. WE CANNOT BE HALF A SAFE HAVEN FOR FAMILIES AND HALF A SACRIFICE ZONE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. A DIVIDED COUNTY WHERE RESIDENTS PEACE AND PROPERTY ARE WEIGHTED AGAINST THE POTENTIAL UNCHECKED ECONOMIC GROWTH CANNOT STAND STRONG. LET'S FOCUS ON THE HUMAN IMPACT OF THIS ACTION. CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING, PARENTS PUTTING THEIR CHILDREN TO BED WITH THE CONSTANT HUM AND VIBRATIONS OF MACHINES IN THE DISTANCE. NEVER KNOWING IF TONIGHT WILL BE A QUIET ONE. SENIORS RETIRED AFTER DECADES OF WORK EXPECTING PEACE NOW FORCED TO CONTEND WITH DIESEL GENERATORS, TURBINE ENGINES, AND LOOMING 120 FOOT HIGH BUILDINGS, HOMEOWNERS WHOSE PROPERTY VALUES AND FINANCIAL SECURITY COULD DROP OVERNIGHT. WHILE THE BENEFITS OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MAY BE CONSIDERED DISPROPORTIONATELY SHARED WITH THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS, THIS IS NOT AN ABSTRACT SITUATION. WE ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS OF GLAND COUNTY WHOM YOU HAVE [01:15:01] AN OBLIGATION TO PROTECT. WE CANNOT ALLOW ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY TO COME AT THIS COST GROWTH MUST BE RESPONSIBLE, MEASURED, AND JUST THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT PROMISES PROGRESS AND ECONOMIC GROWTH TO THE COUNTY. BUT IF LEFT UNCHECKED, IT BRINGS REAL RISKS, NOISE FROM DATA CENTERS AND POWER GENERATION FACILITIES AND THE CONSTANT HUM AND VIBRATIONS THEY GENERATE. THIS IS NOISE THAT DISRUPTS SLEEP, HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE. 120 FOOT TALL BUILDINGS TOWERING OVER NEIGHBORHOODS, CASTING SHADOWS OVER HOMES, AND CHANGING THE RURAL RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THIS AREA FOREVER. DIESEL GENERATORS, POTENTIALLY MANY, PERHAPS EVEN DOZENS PER SITE TURBINES AND EVEN SMALL MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTORS, SOME OF WHICH COULD BE BY RIGHT ADJACENT TO RESIDENCES IF CONSIDERED AN ACCESSORY. USE MULTIPLE BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT SITES OVER TIME, CREATING A CUMULATIVE IMPACT ON NOISE AND THE ENVIRONMENT WITH ABSOLUTELY NO PRESCRIBED ASSESSMENT FOR MEASURING THEIR CUMULATIVE IMPACTS. IF LEFT UNCHECKED, THE TOD WILL DIVIDE, OUR COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WILL OCCUR WHILE NEIGHBORHOODS SUFFER. STAFF HAS MADE SIGNIFICANT STRIDES IN IMPROVING THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU TODAY. I, THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS HERE APPLAUD THEIR EFFORTS. HOWEVER, THERE IS STILL A WAYS TO GO TO GET IT OVER THE GOAL LINE. WE ASK YOU TO STRENGTHEN THE ORDINANCE WITH THESE HEIGHTENED PROTECTIONS TO SECTION 15 4 99 NOISE STANDARDS. WE ASK THAT THE RESOLUTION REDUCE THE DECIBEL LEVELS TO NOT TO EXCEED 40 DVA AT NIGHT AND 45 DVA DURING THE DAY AND ADD ADDITIONAL MEASURES USING A-A-D-A-C WEIGHTED STANDARD OF 55 DVC AT NIGHT AND 60 DVC DURING THE DAY AT THE PROPERTY LINE. AND AT NO TIME SHALL DBC EXCEED DBA BY MORE THAN 15 DECIBELS. BY MAKING THIS REVISION, YOU'LL BE PROTECTING THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE RESIDENTS FROM THE EFFECTS OF LOW FREQUENCY AND VERY HIGH FREQUENCY SOUNDS EMITTED BY DATA CENTERS IN PARTICULAR WHILE MEETING THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION. AND HUDS GENERALLY EXPECTED NOISE STANDARDS FOR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS BY RIGHT VERSUS CONDITIONAL USE SECTION 15 DASH FOUR 50 PERMITTED USES GENERALLY SECTION A. WE ASK THAT ALL DATA CENTERS, POWER GENERATION FACILITIES, INCLUDING TURBINES, MSRS, AND BATTERY STORAGE FACILITIES, EITHER FOR PRIMARY OR AUXILIARY USE, REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITTING. THIS WILL PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY TO THE PUBLIC ABOUT NOISE AND OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL AND SAFETY ISSUES THAT COULD IMPACT OUR WAY OF LIFE. AT THIS TIME, WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THESE USES AND THEIR IMPACTS ON THE COMMUNITY OR IN FACT, THE ENTIRE COUNTY HEIGHT LIMITATIONS. SECTION 15 DASH 4 49 SUBSECTION THREE STRUCTURE, PARAGRAPH A HEIGHT. WE REQUEST THAT YOU CAP ALL BY RIGHT BUILDING HEIGHTS AT 80 FEET TO MAINTAIN A HUMAN SCALE. FOR THIS COMMUNITY'S BY WRIGHT DEVELOPMENTS LAND PROTECTION SECTION 15 449 SUBSECTION B. ADDITIONAL STANDARDS FOR PROPERTY NOT IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT PARK OPEN SPACES, WE ASK THAT YOU CHANGE THE MINIMUM 20% OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT TO 30% TO MATCH THAT OF THE CURRENT WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK REQUIREMENTS. AND IN SUBSECTION C, BUFFER AND SETBACK REQUIREMENTS REQUIRE A MINIMUM 600 FOOT SETBACK WITH A 300 FOOT BUFFER FROM ALL RESIDENTIAL AREAS REGARDLESS OF BUILDING HEIGHT OR USE. DOING THIS WILL MAINTAIN A SENSE OF CAMPUS AND ISOLATE FROM IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS FROM INCOMPATIBLE USES NO WAIVERS. WE ASK THAT YOU MODIFY THE RESOLUTION SO THAT NO ADMINISTRATIVE WAIVERS OF THE INCLUDED PROTECTIONS ARE ALLOWED [01:20:01] AND THAT ANY CHANGES MUST GO THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND POSSIBLY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WHICH WILL PROVIDE THE RESIDENTS WITH A LEVEL OF TRUST AND TRANSPARENCY WITH THE GOVERNMENT. PROPERTY VALUE ASSURANCE, WE ASK THAT THE COUNTY CONSIDER THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PROPERTY VALUE ASSURANCE PROGRAM AS PART OF THE TOD RESOLUTION. RESIDENTS NEED CONFIDENCE THAT THE COUNTY PROTECTS THEIR FINANCIAL WELLBEING WHILE FOSTERING THE COUNTY'S ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH COMES POTENTIALLY AT THEIR EXPENSE. FINALLY, WE ALSO ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DEFER ANY ACTIONS ON THIS RESOLUTION UNTIL STAFF CAN ADEQUATELY CONSIDER THESE AND OTHER RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE RESOLUTION. THERE IS NO REASON TO REST THIS ACTION BETTER TO GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. EACH OF THESE ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS IS A PROMISE. A PROMISE THAT GLAND COUNTY VALUES ITS RESIDENTS AND THAT IT WILL NOT SACRIFICE FAMILIES FOR UNCHECKED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WILL GLAND BE A COUNTY THAT BENDS THE UNCHECKED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WHERE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE SACRIFICED AND FAMILIES BEAR THE COST LOST? OR WILL IT BE A COUNTY THAT STANDS UNITED WHERE ECONOMIC GROWTH OCCURS ALONGSIDE VIGOROUSLY ENFORCED STRONG PROTECTIONS FOR ITS RESIDENTS? ITS OPEN SPACES AND ITS QUALITY OF LIFE. THE CHOICE IS OURS. WE CAN STAND TOGETHER OR WE CAN DIVIDE OURSELVES. BUT WITH THESE ADDITIONAL PROTECTIONS, NOISE LIMITS, ELIMINATING BUY RIGHT FOR INCOMPATIBLE USES ADDITIONAL PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OPPORTUNITIES, BUILDING HEIGHT CAPS, STREAMLINING BUFFERS, OR STANDARDIZING BUFFERS AND SETBACKS. AND THE ADDITION OF PROPERTY VALUE ASSURANCES GLAND CAN STAND STRONG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, LET'S, UH, NOT APPLAUD, PLEASE. AGAIN, NO JEERING, JEERING OR SNEERING. WE APPRECIATE THAT. YES, SIR. OR YES, MA'AM. I'M GERALD HAAS. I LIVE AT 1 2 3 1 3 BEACH HALL CIRCLE IN READERS BRANCH, AND I SEED MY TIME TO MY WIFE, CYNTHIA. THANK YOU. I HAVE A FEELING THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND GLAND COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS DID NOT EXPECT THE PUBLIC OUTCRY CAUSED BY THIS TOD PROPOSAL. I KNOW THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BRING IN BUSINESSES FOR THE TAX REVENUE, AND I HAVE NO PROBLEMS OR ISSUES WITH THAT. I LOVE THAT ELI LILLY HAS CHOSEN WEST CREEK. ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS I WANT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO UNDERSTAND TONIGHT IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HERE WANT TO BE SEEN, HEARD, AND HAVE THEIR COMMENTS ACTED UPON, NOT THE WE. LISTEN, WE HEARD, AND WE COMPLETELY IGNORED AND DISREGARDED WHAT YOU SAID, ATTITUDE THAT THE COUNTY HAS HAD SO FAR. WE WANT A TRUE INDICATION. THE FOLKS WHO ARE ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS, CHEMICAL ENGINEERS, SOUND ENGINEERS, IT PROFESSIONALS, FOLKS WHO WORKED FOR DOMINION POWER WITH NUCLEAR ENERGY, LAND ATTORNEYS, GENERATOR EXPERTS, DATA CENTER PLANNERS, CAN'T ALL BE WRONG WHEN THEY SAY THIS PROPOSAL HAS MANY FLAWS THAT MUST BE FIXED. PLEASE DON'T TURN AWAY FROM WHAT THESE EXPERTS TELL YOU TONIGHT. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. FOR ME, ONE OF THE MOST CONFUSING ASPECTS OF THIS TOD PROPOSAL IS WHY GLAND COUNTY HAS REFUSED TO ACT UPON VERY MINOR REQUESTS FOR MODIFICATIONS. MODIFICATIONS, WHICH WOULD ALLOW RESIDENTS TO BE PROTECTED IN THEIR HOMES. HOMES THAT WERE APPROVED AND ALLOWED TO BE BUILT BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. WE ARE TAX PAYING CITIZENS. WE ELECT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND PAY THE COUNTY STAFF SALARIES. YET WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN NO JUSTIFICATIONS WHY THE TOD PROPOSAL HAS BEEN WRITTEN THE WAY IT HAS. IN FACT, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR OUR INPUT AND WE HAVE GIVEN IT ONLY TO BE IGNORED AND COM INPUT COMPLETELY DISREGARDED. AGAIN, NO CLAPPING, PLEASE. INSTEAD, THE TAX PAYING RESIDENTS NOW HAVE TO PAY FOR A FLAWED BALLOON TEST. [01:25:01] IT WAS FLAWED IN CONCEPT AND EXECUTION. IF THE PURPOSE WAS TO SHOW IF 120 FOOT HIGH BUILDING COULD BE SEEN, WHY DO IT WHEN ALL THE TREES ARE IN LEAF WHEN THE TREES ARE BARE? 120 FOOT HIGH? A 12 STORY BUILDING WILL BE FULLY VISIBLE FROM MY BACKYARD. FLAWED THINKING. WHEN THE REVISED DOD CAME OUT, A NUCLEAR REACTOR WAS ADDED IN AN AREA RIGHT NEXT TO A QUARRY THAT RARELY SETS OFF EXPLOSIONS FLAWED THINKING. IT IS THIS TYPE OF FLAWED THINKING THAT HAS CAUSED SO MUCH OF THE ANGER OVER THE TOD. THE PROPOSAL HAS NOT BEEN WRITTEN CORRECTLY. IT NEEDS MODIFICATIONS. THE COUNTY'S INSISTENCE ON NOT CHANGING THIS PROPOSAL HAS CAUSED SO MUCH ANGER AND FEAR BY ENDORSING EVERY ITEM IN THE TOD PROPOSAL WITHOUT THE NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS. YOU ARE TELLING EVERY TAX PAYING RESIDENT YOU DON'T RESPECT THEM AND YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THEM. REMEMBER, OUR HOMES ARE HERE BECAUSE YOU ALL ALLOWED THEM. I DID MY DUE DILIGENCE. I CALLED THE COUNTY. I ASKED WHAT CAN BE BUILT ON THE LOT THAT I'M CONSIDERING. I WAS TOLD M1 MANUFACTURING, GUIN COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTION 15 DASH 2 61, STATEMENT OF INTENT FOR M1. THIS DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROMOTE, PROMOTE, PROMOTE INDUSTRIES. ONES WHICH DO NOT IN ANY WAY DETRACT FROM RESIDENTIAL DESIRABILITY. PLEASE THINK ABOUT HOW GLAND COUNTY WANTS TO BE KNOWN, A GREEDY COUNTY THAT WILL SELL ITS SOLD TO ATTRACT ANY TYPE OF BUSINESS OR A RURAL COUNTY THAT HAS FOCUSED ON ATTRACTING BUSINESSES THAT G THAT ARE IN GLAND'S, RURAL NATURE, BUSINESSES THAT FIT INTO THE RURAL LOOK OF WEST CREEK BUSINESSES. THAT WILL BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU AGAIN. AGAIN, I'M GOING TO ASK, IN FACT, THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'M GOING TO ASK THAT WE, THAT WE DO NOT CLAP. THIS TAKES AWAY FROM, AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. IF, BECAUSE I I'M, I ASK THAT WE NOT DO THAT, PLEASE, IF WE NEED TO TAKE A RECESS OR DO SOMETHING, THEN WE WILL DO THAT SO THAT EVERYBODY CALM DOWN. BUT I'VE, I'VE ASKED THAT SEVERAL TIMES NOW, UH, THAT WE JUST, AGAIN, JUST HAVE A LEVEL OF DECORUM SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE HEARD, EVERYBODY CAN GET OUT WHAT THEY NEED TO GET OUT WITHOUT BEING INTERRUPTED. UM, AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING TONIGHT. WHOEVER'S NEXT, PLEASE COME FORWARD OR ARE WE FINISHED WITH THAT GROUP? WE'RE FINISHED WITH THAT GROUP. THANK YOU. IF SUSAN BENEVA AND TIMOTHY STAUB WOULD PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE BLUE MICROPHONE AND DEBBIE MCCAULEY, ELAINE BERMAN AND PIXIE HAMILTON. PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE WHITE MICROPHONE TO SPEAK AFTER MR. STAUB. SO SUSAN HAD TO GO TO A, TO A FRIEND'S HOME. SOMEBODY DIED. HER HUSBAND DIED. EXCUSE ME, SIR, COULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS? MY NAME IS TIM STAUB. MM-HMM . I LIVE AT 92 43 SARU. AND BACKING UP TO THE A TWO LAND, THAT IS TOD. THANK YOU. AND MY WIFE YIELDED HER TIME, BUT IF SHE'S NOT HERE, SO IF I CAN'T TAKE IT, UH, CONSOLIDATE. WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT ME TO DO? FIVE MINUTES OR THREE MINUTES? I'M, I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, SIR. SUSAN WAS YIELDING HER TIME TO ME. SHE'S NOT HERE TO DO IT. MM-HMM . SO I CAN EITHER CONSOLIDATE OR I CAN TAKE THE FIVE MINUTES. I'LL DO WHICHEVER YOU PREFER. UM, THREE, THREE MINUTES. THREE MINUTES. SO YOU, YOU HAVE, YOU CAN DO THREE MINUTES. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU, SIR. SO I WILL BE BRIEF. SO I'VE INTRODUCED MYSELF, MYSELF. MY NAME IS DR. TIMOTHY STAUB, AS MY KIDS SAY, NOT THE REAL KIND. I'M A SCIENTIST, NOT A MEDICAL DOCTOR. UM, I LIVE, AS I SAID AT 92 43 IAN. I'M ALSO A 66-YEAR-OLD. RETIRED BIOTECHNOLOGY, CEO. UM, I'M A CAPITALIST. I'M AN INVESTOR. I'VE BUILT BIG THINGS. I'VE WORKED WITH PEOPLE TO RAISE OVER A BILLION DOLLARS OF CAPITAL TO BUILD BIG THINGS. I'VE BUILT, NOT DATA CENTERS, BUT LARGE BIOTECHNOLOGY FACILITIES, GENERALLY FERMENTATION FACILITIES. UM, I MADE A FEW PHONE CALLS. SO MY NEPHEW IS A PARTNER AT CITADEL, [01:30:01] WHO IS A BIG INVESTOR IN DATA CENTERS. UM, ANOTHER GOOD BUDDY OF MINE WORKS AT A COMPANY CALLED, UH, STONE PEAK INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I JUST CALLED HIM AND ASKED HIM A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND I LEARNED SOME THINGS AND I'LL JUST SHARE WITH YOU REALLY QUICK WHAT I'VE LEARNED. ONE DATA CENTER IS BUILDING CLUSTERS. SO IT'S NEVER ONE, IF THEY COME, THEY'RE GONNA COME IN QUANTITY AND THEY'RE GONNA GO BIG. IF IT'S A SMALL TRACT, THEY'RE GONNA GO UP. IF YOU TELL 'EM THEY CAN BUILD 120 FEET, THEY'RE GONNA BUILD 120 FEET. THEY'RE NOT GONNA BUILD 40, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BUILD 82. DATA CENTERS ARE SECRETIVE AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE LONG-TERM RISK OF THESE FACILITIES ARE. SO THEY SET 'EM UP IN LLCS. THEY BURY THE LIABILITY LOCALLY. THEY TAKE THE PROFIT INTERNATIONALLY FOR THEIR INVESTORS. THAT'S THE WAY THEY DO BUSINESS. THEY'RE VERY PROFITABLE. THE PRO THAT PART OF THAT PROFIT IS BASED ON A TERM CALLED FREE RIDER, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE RISK, THEY'RE GETTING THAT FREE AND THEY'RE EXTRACTING THE VALUE. I WON'T TALK ABOUT ELECTRICITY, I WON'T TALK ABOUT WATER. YOU'VE HEARD ALL THAT. UM, WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT THEY CAN BUILD BELOW 40 DECIBELS. THEY DON'T WANT TO, BUT THEY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO DO IT. THEY CAN PUT, THEY CAN, THEY CAN INSULATE THE BUILDINGS, THEY CAN PUT UP NOISE DEADENING FENCES. THEY CAN DO THINGS TO MAKE THESE THINGS A LOT QUIETER, BUT THEY ARE LOUD. SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A REFERENCE POINT, UM, 60 TO 65 DECIBELS IS ABOUT EQUAL TO A VACUUM CLEANER RUNNING RIGHT OUTSIDE YOUR BACK DOOR, 24 7 365 DAYS A YEAR. THE GENERATORS THAT KICK ON A COUPLE TIMES A DAY ARE 75 TO A HUNDRED DECIBELS, WHICH IS ABOUT EQUAL TO A LAWNMOWER OR A LEAF BLOWER EVERY DAY. OUR CERULEAN HOME BACKS UP TO THESE BEAUTIFUL WOODLANDS. WE LIVE IN FLORIDA, SO THIS IS OUR SUMMER HOME BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO OUR GRANDCHILDREN. WE GET UP AT 5 15, 5 30, WE'RE OLD. WE WAKE UP EARLY. WE HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE ON THE, ON THE BACK PATIO AND LISTEN TO THE BIRDS SING. YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR BIRDS SING AT 60 TO 65 DECIBELS. UM, WHAT I WOULD ASK IS POSTPONE THIS UNTIL WE POSTPONE THIS. YES, SIR. UNTIL YOU HAVE MORE DATA IN THE SPRING, YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE IT. YES. NEXT, PLEASE AGAIN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. I'M DEBBIE MCCAULAY, LIVE AT 1 2 3 3 7 BEACH HALL CIRCLE IN READERS BRANCH. AND I SEED MY TIME TO PIXIE HAMILTON. THANK YOU. I'M ELAINE BERMAN. I LIVE AT 1 2 1 1, 1 BRANCH OVERLOOK CIRCLE IN READERS BRANCH. AND I SEAT MY TIME TO PIXIE HAMILTON. THANK YOU. UH, I CAN'T SEE YOU. I'M JUST GONNA MOVE THIS LIKE THIS OR YEAH. , I LIKE, I LIKE EYE CONTACT, UH, PIXIE HAMILTON. 1 2 3 2 8 BEACH HALL CIRCLE. UM, ABOUT 50 FEET AWAY FROM, UM, M1 ZONING. UM, I AM A RETIRED, UH, CIVIL ENGINEER AND COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. UM, RIGHT OFF THE BAT, I WANNA TELL YOU THAT, UM, I WANNA THANK DR. ROW. I WANNA THANK SARAH WORLEY. I WANNA THANK THEIR STAFF. THEY'VE BEEN ABOVE AND BEYOND TRANSPARENT. THEY'VE BEEN ABOVE AND BEYOND HELPFUL, AND I'M REALLY PROUD THAT THEY REPRESENT UCHIN COUNTY. UM, I HAVE NOT MET YOU. I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING MORE TIME WITH YOU SO I CAN GET TO KNOW YOU. UM, I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT DECIBELS. I'M NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT SMRS. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT GAS PEAKING. UM, I'M LEAVING THAT TO OTHER PEOPLE, UH, WITH A DEEPER EXPERTISE. WHAT I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE PROCESS THAT GOT US HERE TODAY. SOME GRAVE OVERSIGHTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND TO ADVOCATE THAT TONIGHT'S THE NIGHT TO STOP THIS STUFF THAT'S BEEN OVERSIGHTS IN THE PAST. BEGIN TONIGHT AND START FRESH IN THE NEW GLIN WAY THAT MAKES SENSE FOR BUSINESS AND FOR US. HOW DID WE GET HERE? 1987 DECISION ONE WEST, EXCUSE ME, WEST CREEK. EXCUSE ME, PLEASE. COULD YOU MAKE SURE YOU ADDRESS US WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER? YEAH, I THINK IT'S A COLLABORATIVE THING, BUT SURE. I'LL FACE YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. I'M SURE THEY'RE LISTENING. UM, 1987, WERE ZONED F1, UH, M1, AND WE HAVE BUYRIGHT APPROVALS. SO WE HAVE NO [01:35:01] SAY, WE HAVE NO VOICE. THERE'S NO MORE MEETINGS, THERE'S NO HEARINGS, NO INPUT DONE DEAL. UM, FOR ME, THIS BUYRIGHT ACCESS AND M1 ZONING IS THE FIRST GRAVE OVERSIGHT. UM, I ALSO DO WANT TO, UM, SAY THAT AGAIN, SOMEBODY MENTIONED IT, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH MENTIONING AGAIN, THAT THE INTENT AND PURPOSE OF M1 ZONING IN 1987 AND IN 2025 IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL USES COEXIST WITH THE DESIRABILITY AND QUALITY OF CHARACTER IN THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS. DECISION TWO, 2014, I JUST LEARNED THIS, SO WE'RE GONNA FAST FORWARD. 27 YEARS. GLAND PASSES AN ORDINANCE IN MARCH OF 2014 THAT REDEFINES DATA CENTER AS A, ITS OWNED BY WRIGHT USE. SO PRIOR TO 2014 DATA CENTER, WHAT'S FIT INTO AN EXISTING DEFINITION IN M1, WHICH IS OFFICE BUILDING DEFINITION. SO IT'S WHERE THEY HAD SERVERS, SO SERVER, THE FACILITY, THEY HAD TO REDEFINE IT IN 2014 TO STAND ON ITS OWN. AFTER DOMINION POWER APPROVED A NINE 119 ACRE SITE, NORTHEAST OF CARMAX AS A CERTIFIED DATA CENTER LOCATION, NO SETBACKS, NO NOISE LIMITS, NO PROTECTIONS FOR RESIDENTS YET. BY 2014, DATA CENTERS WERE ALREADY MASSIVE WINDOWLESS POWER HUNGRY BUILDINGS WITH GENERATORS, COOLING SYSTEMS, AND HEAVY INFRASTRUCTURE. THAT'S OVERSIGHT. NUMBER TWO. DECISION THREE, 2017, GLAND COUNTY DECIDES TO ZONE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS, READERS BRANCH 2017, MOSAIC 2018. AGAIN, NO ORDINANCES, NO PROTECTIONS TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. WE STILL HAVE THIS INTENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DETRACT FROM THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OVERSIGHT NUMBER THREE. SO NOW WE'RE HERE TODAY, 2025, AND WE'RE RUSHING TO CREATE A TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT AND A TECHNOLOGY ZONE WITH TAX INCENTIVES. IT HAS BEEN SAID PUBLICLY VERBATIM THAT THIS TOD IS OUR OPPORTUNITY TO FIX A PAST MISTAKE, WHICH I AGREE WITH. FINALLY, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PROTECTIONS AND I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND I COMMEND THE WORK THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE DONE TO TRY TO GET US THERE. HOW I'M SCARED, I'M FEARFUL. I THINK THIS COULD BE OVERSIGHT NUMBER FOUR IN THE HISTORY THAT I'VE JUST OUTLINED FOR YOU. I HAVE A FEELING THAT WE ARE CONTINUING ON THIS PATH OF RECKLESS THOUGHT, UN NOT THOUGHTFUL DECISIONS WITH UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES INSTEAD OF A CAREFUL FIX. WE'RE SEEING A PROCESS DRIVEN BY A FEW LANDOWNERS. DON'T GET ME WRONG, THEY DESERVE A VOICE. WE ALL KNOW LANDOWNERS HAVE INFLUENCE. MY, I ADVOCATE THAT A FEW VOICES SHOULD NOT DROWN OUT THE VOICE OF THOUSAND OTHERS WHO LIVE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. I'M NERVOUS BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE RUSHING INTO THIS TOD WITHOUT CAREFUL THOUGHT, WITHOUT ATTENTION TO WHAT IT MAY CAUSE US IN THE FUTURE. WE HAVEN'T DONE OUR RESEARCH ON SMRS. WE, IT'S UNTESTED. WE DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S NOISE BARRIERS INVENTED. NORTH DAKOTA DATA CENTER WILL TELL YOU THEY'RE NOT AROUND YET. MY BIG RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU TONIGHT IS TO DELAY THIS PROCESS 60 DAYS AT LEAST, AND ALLOW THESE FINE PEOPLE [01:40:01] TO CONTINUE TO DO THE NECESSARY RESEARCH SO THAT WHEN WE GET FORWARD WITH A TOD, IT'S SOUND AND IT DOESN'T HAVE CONSEQUENCES ON RESIDENTS DOWN THE ROAD. SO THAT'S THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE THE TIME. WILL WILL BARBARA BOYER AND ROBERT BOYER, PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT IN THE BLUE MICROPHONE AND WILL PATIENTS ARMSTRONG, LAURA RILEY AND BRIAN HENSON, PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT TO THE WHITE MICROPHONE TO SPEAK AFTER MR. BOYER ALARM DOWN SLIGHTLY. I'M BARBARA BOYER. I LIVE AT 93 27, UM, KALEIDOSCOPE ROW AND I'M SEATING MY TIME TO MY HUSBAND, ROBERT. THANK YOU. I'M ROBERT BOYER OF THE SAME ADDRESS. I'M FEELING EXTREMELY AMBIVALENT ABOUT GLAND COUNTY. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR TAX INCOME FROM, FOR, UH, COUNTY OPERATIONS, BUT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THE COUNTY EXPECTATION THAT THE LARGEST PORTION OF THE TAX BURDEN SHOULD BE SHOULDERED BY 48% OF THE COUNTY POPULATION THAT LIVES IN COUNTY IN DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE. I'M NOT YOU, YOU'RE FINE. KEEP GOING. ON 15% OF THE LAND, I RECOGNIZE THE FAILURE OF THE 2002 CREATION OF THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT. THIS DISTRICT WAS TO SOLVE TWO PROBLEMS FACING THE COUNTY. ONE STOP THE SPRAWL OF PEOPLE FROM HENRI HENRICO COUNTY POPULATION 330,000 AND THE RELATED INDUSTRY. AND TWO, CREATE A NEW REVENUE SOURCE. SO THE COUNTY RAISED $67 MILLION THROUGH BONDS. THIS CREATED DEBT THAT BUILT INFRASTRUCTURE, WATER, SEWER, ELECTRIC, ET CETERA. CREATED THE TUCKAHOE CREEK SERVICE DISTRICT THAT WAS VISIONED AS GLAND'S OWNED INNSBROOK WITH AN M1 ZONE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THIS WAS A BRILLIANT IDEA, BUT THEN GLAND SAT ON THEIR HANDS AND NEVER RECRUITED THE INDUSTRY TO, TO BUILD IN THE TCD TO PAY THE TAXES NECESSARY TO PAY THE DEBT, WHICH AS OF JUNE 25 IS STILL HAS AN OBLIGATION OF $99 MILLION. 20 YEARS AFTER THE BOND WAS FLOATED, $99 MILLION ON A $67 MILLION BOND. SO IN 2000, IN 2017, WITH THE DEBT RAPIDLY REACHING MATURITY, IT WAS AN EASY SELL TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS. SINCE ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS IN PLACE AND THE CHANGE FROM M1 TO LATE M1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING WOULD MEET NO RESISTANCE WHATSOEVER. THE PROPERTY TAX AT 53 CENTS A HUNDRED OF ASSESSMENT WAS A GREAT INCENTIVE AS COMPARED TO ENRICO AT 85 CENTS A HUNDRED. ALSO, THE COUNTY COULD RAISE THE ASSESSMENTS AS NEEDED TO MEET ANY OBLIGATION. THE TAX INCOME WOULD GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND BE USED FOR THE NEEDS OF THE ENTIRE COUNTY, EVEN THOUGH THE ONLY, ONLY DISTRICT FOUR AND FIVE WOULD BEAR THE BURDEN. WELL, THIS PLAN FOR INCREASED INCOME STILL WAS NOT ENOUGH TO SERVICE THE $67 MILLION DEBT. SO AN AVALARA TAX OF 32 CENTS A HUNDRED WAS ASSESSED TO BE SHOULDERED ONLY BY THE DISTRICT FOUR AND FIVE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. KEEP IN MIND, THE ORIGINAL TAX REVENUE FROM THE CREATED TCSD WAS TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND TO BE USED FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COUNTY. BUT SINCE IT FAILED FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON, YOU EXPECT ONLY THE RESIDENTS IN THE TC SD TO SHOULDER THE BURDEN OF REPAYING THE DEBT. SO CALL IT THE TCD OR THE TOD, THIS A VALOREM TAX SHOULD BE CHARGED TO ALL GLAND COUNTY RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES. SINCE ALL THE COUNTY WAS TO BENEFIT UNTIL THE DEBT OF NOW 90, $99 MILLION WAS PAID OFF GLAND NOW HAS AN OPPORTUNITY WITH DATA CENTERS. THEY CAN'T FAIL. YOU SHOULD BE, YOU SHOULD EASILY BE ABLE TO GO OUT AND FLOAT ANOTHER BOND FOR A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS. PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE SOUTH, CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST PARTS OF THE COUNTY WHERE 52% OF THE [01:45:01] POPULATION LIVES ON 85% OF THE LAND VERSUS 44% OF THE POPULATION LIVING ON 15% OF THE LAND. WITH THE DISCONTINUANCE OF A FEW ACRES OF SOYBEANS AND WHEAT DATA CUT CENTERS COULD BE BUILT MILES AWAY FROM TAX PAYING RESIDENTS. I'M SURE A COUPLE OF FARMERS READY FOR RETIREMENT WOULD JUMP AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINALLY MAKE A PROFIT FROM THE LAND THAT THEY WORKED ON ALL THEIR LIFE WITH VERY LITTLE RETURN. WE WOULD WELCOME THEN THEM TO MOSAIC, BUT THE TAXES ARE TWICE AS HIGH, SO THEY PROBABLY WON'T COME. GLAND COUNTY IS ABOUT 185,000 ACRES. FOUR DATA CENTERS OF A HUNDRED ACRES EACH 400 ACRES AND A TOTALLY INVISIBLE RURAL AREA WOULD SOLVE ALL THE COUNTY'S FINANCIAL NEEDS AND STILL LEAVE 184,600 ACRES FOR AGRICULTURE. THE SIMPLE SOLUTION WOULD MAKE AT LEAST 99% OF THE COUNTY POPULATION VERY HAPPY. AND 99.5% OF THE POPULATION WOULD BE EXTREMELY HAPPY WHEN YOU CHANGE THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX. I'M SORRY SIR, YOUR TIME IS OF 27 CENTS. A HUNDRED TO $3 AND 75 CENTS A HUNDRED THAT THE RESIDENTS PAY. THANK YOU, SIR. YOUR TIME IS UP. APPRECIATE IT. OF COURSE, THE 15% AND THE 85% HAS TO CHANGE. SIR, SIR, PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL TO SOMEONE ELSE. THANK YOU AGAIN. WE ASK, WE ASK AGAIN. I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS IS SO DIFFICULT FOR US TO JUST NOT CLAP AND CHEER AND CHEER. NEXT SLIDE. YES, MA'AM. HI, I'M PATIENCE ARMSTRONG. I LIVE AT 9 3 4 9 CITRINE RUN AND I SEED MY TIME TO BRIAN HENSON. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME'S LAURA RILEY. I LIVE AT 92 20 CERULEAN PLACE AND I SEED MY TIME TO BRIAN HENSON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT. UM, MY ROLE HERE, TONIGHT'S VERY SIMPLE. UM, WE USE LANGUAGE LIKE INCHES FOR MEASUREMENT. UH, WE USE LANGUAGE LIKE DECIBELS FOR SOUND. THE PROBLEM I THINK WE HAVE IS THAT WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING WHEN WE SAY 65 DECIBELS OF SOUND. 65 DECIBELS IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN THE TODI WANT TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT THAT IS. THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM A PERSON TALKING WHERE THE SOUND GOES UP AND DOWN OR CARS GOING BY OR EVEN WAVES ON THE OCEAN, WHICH ARE COMING IN. THIS IS CONTINUAL SOUND. SO HERE IS WHAT, 65 DECIBELS OF CONTINUAL SOUND SOUNDS LIKE I HAVE A DECIMAL METER HERE. I'M GONNA TURN UP THAT SPEAKER UNTIL IT REACHES 65 DECIBELS. OKAY? THIS IS 65 DECIBELS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEARING AT ALL TIMES IN OUR PROPERTY. WITHOUT FAIL, NEVER ENDING, THIS IS WHAT'S ALLOWED. NOW, THIS IS NOT EVEN ADDRESSING THE TESTING PERIODS FOR THE GENERATORS, WHICH THERE'S A TWO HOUR DAILY ALLOWANCE. THESE CAN GET ANYWHERE FROM 70 TO A HUNDRED DECIBELS. UH, THE NEWER FACILITIES TEND TO GO HIGHER. I AM NOT GOING TO BRING THE SPEAKER UP TO THOSE LEVELS, BUT I WILL BRING IT UP TILL IT HURTS YOUR EARS, BASICALLY. AND I'LL TELL YOU WHERE WE ARE. OKAY? SO HANG ON. UM, OKAY. IT WON'T EVEN GO LOUD ENOUGH. I GOT TO 78 DECIBELS. OKAY? WHEN A A FACILITY IS TESTED, IT'S GOING TO BE AROUND 85 DECIBELS. OKAY? THERE'S ANOTHER PROBLEM HERE. SO THAT COULD GO ON FOR TWO HOURS EVERY DAY. THAT'S, IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE THAT IT'S NOT LIVABLE. WE CAN'T HAVE THAT. UM, THERE'S A BIGGER PROBLEM. THE DATA CENTERS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY ARE NOT THE DATA CENTERS WE SHOULD BE PLANNING FOR. DATA CENTERS HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME. UH, THE NEW KIND OF STANDARD IS CLOUD DATA CENTERS, AND THAT'S ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. AI DATA CENTERS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE COMING AND THEY ARE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL. THEY'RE LOUDER. THEY HAVE WAY MORE GENERATORS. YOU CAN HAVE 25, 40, A HUNDRED. EVEN THE GENERATORS HAVE TO BE TESTED SO THAT THEY CAN APPLY SUPPLY BACKUP [01:50:01] POWER. WHEN POWER GOES DOWN, THE DATA CENTERS KEEP RUNNING. SO THEY HAVE TO BE TESTED. THEY HAVE TO BE TESTED FOR A MINIMUM OF A HALF AN HOUR EACH. IT IS MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TEST ALL OF THE GENERATORS ON AN AI DATA CENTER IN A TWO HOUR PERIOD IN A GIVEN DAY. THE ONLY WAY IT CAN HAPPEN IS IF YOU GANG THEM TOGETHER AND TEST THEM AT THE SAME TIME. AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING EXTREMELY LOUD. NOW, IF YOU DON'T DO IT THAT WAY, THEY HAVE TO BE SEQUENCED. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LONG PERIOD OF THE SOUND THAT JUST PLAYED. I DIDN'T EVEN, IT DIDN'T EVEN REACH THE LEVELS WE'D BE EXPERIENCING. IT JUST DOES NOT MATHEMATICALLY WORK. I THINK ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WE'RE FACING TODAY IS THAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR OUR GRANDFATHER'S DATA CENTERS. THE DATA CENTERS THAT ARE COMING ARE NOT THAT THEY ARE VERY LOUD. OKAY? SO, YOU KNOW, I AM, WE'RE FOR GROWTH. UM, THERE ARE SOLUTIONS. IF YOU, AND I'M GETTING OUTTA MY AREA NOW, I REALIZE THAT MY AREA SOUND, I'M A SOUND EXPERT. UM, THIS, BUT THE, I LOOKED AT THE MAPS AND THE, AND THE AREA OF PROPERTIES COMPARED TO THE WHOLE OF RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES COMPARED TO THE WHOLE TOD. IT'S VERY SMALL. SO WHY DON'T WE PLACE THE BUSINESSES THAT WILL HAVE LESS IMPACT, UM, TRAINING CENTERS, UM, OFFICES, PLACE THOSE IF WE MUST PLACE THEM CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL PLACE, THOSE TYPE OF BUSINESSES, BORDERING RESIDENTIAL AND LET THE LOUD DATA CENTERS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN THE TOD AND ALL OTHER KIND OF INDUSTRY, LET THEM BE FAR FROM RESIDENTIAL, OUR CURRENT AMBIENT LEVEL AND MOSAIC WHERE I LIVE, 92, 63 CIVILIAN PLACE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I FORGOT TO STATE THAT. UM, WE EXPERIENCE A 40 TO 45 DECIBEL LEVEL RIGHT NOW. I PLAYED YOU 65. THAT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. I PLAYED YOU 70. WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO 85. THIS IS IMPORTANT. WE EVERY 10 DECIBELS OF MEASURE IS TWICE AS LOUD. OKAY? SO WHEN I PLAYED YOU 60, IF WE GO TO 70, 70 IS TWICE AS LOUD. IF WE GO TO 80, IT'S AGAIN, TWICE AS LOUD. AGAIN. I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING SERIOUS NOISIER HERE. OKAY, SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL CONCLUDE. UM, I'M RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING INCREASED PROTECTIONS FOR EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY BORDERING TOD LAND. I'M REQUESTING A MODIFICATION TO SECTION 15 DASH 4 49 TOD DESIGN STANDARDS TO INCLUDE 45 DECIBELS BY DAY, 40 DECIBELS BY NIGHT, WHICH IS ATTAINABLE. IT IS COMPLETELY ATTAINABLE AS THE MAXIMUM LIMITS AT THE BOUNDARIES, NOT ANYWHERE AT THE BOUNDARIES OF EXISTING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WITH NO ALLOWED EXEMPTIONS FOR THESE 85 DECIBEL PERIODS OF TESTING CONTINUALLY THROUGH THE DAY 40 AND 45, NO EXEMPTIONS. I'M ALSO, UH, RESPECTFULLY, UH, REQUESTING THAT WE DEFER ON THE TOD PROPOSAL AS THE EVIDENCE SHOWS TODAY, THE COUNTY NEEDS MORE TIME TO RESEARCH AND MODIFY THE TOD PROPOSAL. UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU WILL MIKE DUNNIGAN? YES, THREE. WILL MIKE DUNNIGAN, KATHLEEN HIGHER HOLZER AND GARY SHEPHERD. PLEASE COME TO THE BLUE MICROPHONE AND WILL PATRICIA ALVIS, PAT HENDY AND SPENCER SMITH, PLEASE COME TO THE WHITE MICROPHONE TO SPEAK AFTER MR. SHEPHERD. GOOD EVENING. UH, MIKE DAGNAN LIVE AT 1 2 5 6 3 NORTH READERS LANE IN, UH, READERS BRANCH. AND I SEE MY TIME TO GARY SHEPHERD. THANK YOU. NO, KATHLEEN HERE. HOLZER 1 1 1 WILLOW OAKS ROAD. UH, DISTRICT FIVE. ARE YOU EX ARE YOU GIVING US I SEE THESE TO GARY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR REPETITIVE THINGS HERE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT I'M GONNA SAY 'EM ON MY OWN WORDS. UH, I'M SORRY SIR. COULD YOU, UM, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? YES, IT'S, UH, [01:55:01] GARY SHEPHERD AND I'M AT 1 2 4 7 7 NORTH CROSSING DRIVE. UM, I HAVE SOME ITEMS TO TELL, UH, TALK ABOUT IN THE TOD PROPOSAL. UH, I'D LIKE TO START BY RECITING THE STATEMENT ON THE GLAND PLANNING WEBSITE. UH, PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS ARE TASKED WITH MINDFUL STEWARDSHIP OF THE ENVIRONMENT, NATURAL RESOURCES AND APPROPRIATE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE COUNTY. IT'S MY CONTENTION THAT PLANNING IS INCOMPLETE FOR THE TOD. UH, IN THE LATE EIGHTIES WHEN WEST CREEK WAS FORMED, THERE WERE NO DATA CENTERS REMOTELY LIKE THOSE BEING CONSIDERED. AND INDEED THERE WAS NO MENTION TO THEM AT ALL IN M1 ZONING UNTIL JUNE OF, UH, UH, 2014. WEST CREEK IS A BUSINESS PARK. IT'S NOT A TECHNOLOGY PARK LIKE WHITE, WHITE OAK WAS. DATA CENTERS CURRENTLY IN WEST CREEK APPROPRIATELY RESIDE WITHIN OFFICE BUILDINGS. ONLY SINCE THE RELEASE OF CHAT GPT IN 2022 HAS THERE BEEN A LAND RUSH FOR GIANT DA DATA CENTERS. AND NOW IN 2025, GLIN HAS DETERMINED THAT WEST CREEK IS THE ONLY SITE THAT THEY WANT 'EM TO MARKET DUE TO ITS CURRENT M1 ZONING. BUT AS SOMEONE ELSE SAID, OR TWO PEOPLE SAID, LET, LET ME REMIND YOU OF THE UNDERLINING UNDERLYING M1 ZONING STATEMENT OF INTENT. THIS DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PERMIT CERTAIN INDUSTRIES, ONE TO WHICH DO NOT IN ANY WAY DETRACT FROM RESIDENTIAL DESIRABILITY. THAT'S ANY WAY. THE TRUTH IS THAT WEST CREEK IS CHOPPED UP WITH 2 88 AND TUCKAHOE CREEK RUNNING THROUGH, AND THE POSSIBILITY OF A NEW INTERCHANGE MIDWAY BETWEEN TUCKAHOE CREEK ROAD AND BROAD THERE IS, THERE ARE NO NICE UN UNINTERRUPTED 2000 PLUS ACRE SITES LIKE WHITE OAK OR LOUISA OR GREENSVILLE COUNTIES HOMES NEAR THOSE TECH PARKS OR THOUSANDS OF FEET AWAY. SO IF A DATA CENTER IS TO BE BUILT IN WEST CREEK, IT CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO RESEMBLE THOSE HYPERSCALE CAMPUSES THAT GOOGLE, MICROSOFT META AND AMAZON ARE BUILDING. IT CAN BE SMALLER AND A GOOD NEIGHBOR, BUT THAT IS WHERE IMPROVEMENTS TO TOD COME IN TO AVOID DISRUPTING THE, UH, ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS. SO I HAVE FOUR QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER BEFORE ACTING. THIS FIRST ONE REGARDING, UH, SECTION A ONE NOISE AND YOU JUST HEARD A DEMONSTRATION. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE? IF YOU DOWNLOAD A SIMPLE SOUND LEVEL APP TO YOUR PHONE AND WALK AROUND YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD LISTENING TO AC UNITS AND MOWERS AND LEAF BLOWERS WHILE WATCHING THE METER, IF NOT, PLEASE DO. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FIND OUT WHAT THIS, UH, SOUNDS LIKE. YOU'LL BE SHOCKED AT HOW LOUD 65 DECIBELS IS IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN SHOCKED ALREADY. ALSO RELATED TO NOISE, A SINGLE DATA CENTER BUILDING WHITE OAK IS ABOUT 250,000 SQUARE FEET AND HAS BETWEEN 30 AND 50 GENERATORS OF PERHAPS 500 KILOWATTS EACH. THEY'RE THE SIZE OF SHIPPING CONTAINERS IN THE TOD. ARE THE RESTRICTIONS ON THEIR SOUND LEVEL ON ON HOW MANY CAN BE TESTED AT ONCE ON HOW OFTEN THE ANSWER IS NO, NO AND NO. AND ARE THEY ALLOWED TO OPERATE CONTINUOUSLY IF REQUIRED BY THE GRID OPERATOR P-G-P-G-M TO AVOID BROWNOUTS? WE KNOW THAT'S HAPPENED IN LOUDOUN COUNTY. ANOTHER QUESTION IN SECTION A THREE STRUCTURE HEIGHT. WHY WOULD A DATA BUILDING CENTER BUILDING BE 120 FEET HIGH? MOST OF THEM, IN FACT, I'VE NOT COME ACROSS ONE THAT'S 120 FEET HIGH, HIGH EXCEPT FOR IN URBAN AREAS THEY'RE 80 FEET AND SOMETIMES 40 FEET. 40 FEET IS ONE STORY, 80 FEET IS TWO STORIES. SO WHY ARE WE ASKING FOR 120 FEET? IF IT'S FOR ELI LILLY, FOR INSTANCE, FINE, BUT THEN PUT AN 80 FOOT HEIGHT RESTRICTION WITHIN THE DATA SECTION, UH, REQUIRE, UH, PORTION OF THE TOD SECTION A SIX. THERE'S ALREADY SETBACKS AND BUFFERS, PARTICULARLY DATA CENTERS IN, IN THAT AREA. SO WE CAN MAKE IT 80 FEET FOR DATA CENTERS AND STILL ALLOW 120 FEET FOR THE ELI LILLYS OF THE WORLD. AND FINALLY, WHY ARE UTILITY GENERATING, UH, PLANTS BEING INCLUDED BY RIGHT, THIS, THIS IS THE, UH, SMALL NUCLEAR REACTORS AND SUCH. WHAT PROMPTED THAT CHANGE IN THE AUGUST 26TH REVISION? WE HEARD A, A, UH, RESPONSE FOR THAT. YES, SOME TECH COMPANIES ARE DEALING WITH UTILITIES TO BUILD GENERATION CAPACITY ON SITE. BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE HYPERSCALE FACILITIES WHERE THOUSANDS OF ACRES ARE AVAILABLE. THAT'S NOT WEST CREEK. THOSE LONG-TERM DREAMS [02:00:01] OF NUCLEAR REACTORS SHOULD BE RECLASSIFIED TO CONDITIONAL USE. SO I CONCLUDE BY ASKING YOUR CONSIDERATION THESE POINTS, AS DR. RALEY SAID IN, AT THE READER'S RANCH MEETING, QUOTING ROUGHLY, WE NEED TO GET THIS RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. THE BUY RIGHT ALLOWANCE, WHICH GOES BACK TO THE 1980S, REMOVES FURTHER REVIEW FROM ELECTRIC OFFICIALS AND LEAVES PLAN, REVIEW AND ENFORCEMENT TO STAFF WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT. I'M ASKING YOU TO DEFER THIS ACTION UNTIL IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE BY THE STAFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE? YES. OUR OUR NEXT SPEAKERS WERE TO BE PATRICIA ALVIS, PAT HENDY AND SPENCER SMITH. AND THEN FOLLOWING THEM, NO. OKAY. MY NAME IS PATRICIA ALICE. I LIVE AT 2210 HANOVER ROAD, ROCKVILLE, VIRGINIA. AND I GIVE MY TIME FOR SPENCER SMITH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS PAT HENDY. I LIVE AT 2337 WHEATLAND DRIVE AND I SEED MY TIME TO SPENCER SMITH. THANK YOU. I'M SPENCER SMITH. I LIVE AT 1 5 6 9 2 MOSAIC CREEK BOULEVARD IN MANNEQUIN SABBATH. THIS WHOLE PROCEDURE IS BASED ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT YOU HAD A RIGHT TO PLAN, DEFINE A TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY AREA WHERE YOU DID BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS IN PLACE. WELL, THAT'S NOT TRUE. AND YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T TRUE. WHAT'S INFRASTRUCTURE POWER? WELL, IF YOU HOOKED UP A DATA CENTER TO OUR POWER GRID, IT WOULD CRASH AND WE'D ALL BE LIVING IN THE BLACK. AND YOU KNOW THAT. SO YOU FIGURED THAT ONE OUT BY SAYING, WELL, WE'LL HAVE A, A POWER STATION TIED TO THE DATA CENTER. WELL, YOU DIDN'T PICK A COAL COAL FIRED POWER PLANT OR A GAS FIRED POWER PLANT OR AN OIL FI FIRED POWER PLANT BECAUSE THE GREEN NEW DEAL DOESN'T LIKE THOSE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN SHUTTING DOWN ALL OF OUR POWER FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS. WE HAVE NO POWER. SO WHAT ARE YOU SUGGESTING? YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT WE HAVE A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT NEXT DOOR TO THE DATA CENTER TO POWER THE DATA CENTER. NOW, I ASKED A QUESTION WHICH ANYBODY HERE COULD HAVE ASKED. I WENT TO MY SEARCH ENGINE AND I SAID, HOW MUCH WATER WOULD A, A NUCLEAR MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTOR OR A NUCLEAR POWERPOINT, HOW MUCH WATER WOULD ONE OF THOSE USE? AND THIS IS, I'LL READ IT IN THE OPPOSITE ORDER. IT GIVES, AND THIS IS A, UH, A NUCLEAR POWERED PLANT THAT DRAWS DIRECTLY WATER AND IT GOES THROUGH AND IT'S GONE. WE'RE THROWING 500,000 TO OVER A A MILLION GALLONS PER MINUTE OR ROUGHLY 720 MILLION TO 1.5 BILLION GALLONS PER DAY. NOW SECOND PART OF INFRASTRUCTURE IS WATER. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A WATER CRISIS. WE HAVE NO WATER. THE WATER I GET IS EITHER BROWN OR BLUE. THAT'S NOT WATER. I DROVE BY HENRICO DOCTORS HOSPITAL NOT LONG AGO AND 10,000 GALLON TANK TRUCKERS TRUCKS WERE THERE TO FEED THE HOSPITAL WITH WATER THAT HENRICO COUNTY COULD NOT SUPPLY AND THE HOSPITAL NEEDED TO OPERATE. SO THERE'S NO, YOU DON'T HAVE WATER IN THIS INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU ARE PUTTING HERE BECAUSE YOU HAVE EVERYTHING THING. [02:05:02] NOW, I ASKED, I ASKED THE SEARCH ENGINE, DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE IF IT'S A NUCLEAR POWERED PLANT OR A MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTOR? THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE. THE WATER REQUIREMENT IS STAGGERING. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE WATER REQUIREMENT, YOU CAN'T HAVE A NUCLEAR REACTOR IN, UH, NORTH OF BROAD STREET. NOW THE OTHER THING ABOUT COOLING, YOU CAN HAVE STRAIGHT THROUGH WATER OR YOU CAN RECYCLE THE WATER TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. AND THEN THE NUMBERS ARE JUST SLIGHTLY BETTER. 20,000 TO 21,000 GALLONS OF WATER PER MINUTE, ABOUT 29 TO 30 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY AS MAKEUP. AND IN THAT INSTALLATION, WHAT YOU USE IS COOLING TOWERS TO COOL THE WATER. YOU SEE, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE NUCLEAR REACTOR FROM BLOWING UP. WHEN IT GETS HOT, IT'LL BLOW UP. SO YOU HAVE TO STRIP THE HEAT OUT OF IT TO PROTECT IT. BUT IF YOU USE A COOLING TOWER, THEY HAVE BUILT COOLING TOWERS, 700 FEET TALL, 400 FEET WIDE. WELL, YOU CAN'T DO THAT HERE. YOU DON'T HAVE THE WATER. AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU USE WATER TO COOL A NUCLEAR REACTOR? THE WATER BECOMES TOXIC AND THEY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS PROMISED TO PROVIDE A LOCATION FOR THOSE TOXIC WATERS TO BE DEPOSITED, BUT THEY'VE NEVER DELIVERED ON THAT COMMITMENT. SO THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THIS TOXIC WATER TO GO. THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THE NUCLEAR ENERGY TO GO. SO YOU'RE JUST CREATING HAZARDOUS WASTE, NUCLEAR AND WATER WITH NO WAY OF HANDLING IT. NOW YOU, YOU DID ALL OF THIS BECAUSE YOU SAID WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN POSITION, BUT YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE ROADS IN POSITION WHEN YOU GO OUT ON 2 88 AFTER CAPITAL ONE. LET'S GO. IT'S A PARKING LOT AND TUCKAHOE CREEK PARKWAY AND BROAD BRANCH ROAD OR PARKING LOTS. AND NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE MORE PEOPLE WORKING IN THE WEST CREEK AREA AND THERE'S NO PLACE TO GO. THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT GONNA GO INTO GOIN COUNTY BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT THEY WANT BECAUSE OF YOUR MANAGEMENT. IF, IF THANK YOU SIR. IF YOU HAD A REAL PRESIDENT IN CHARGE OF YOU HEARING WHAT I HAVE SAID TODAY, HE WOULD TELL YOU, GO TO YOUR OFFICE, HERE'S A CARDBOARD BOX, CLEAN OUT YOUR OFFICE. YOU HAVE 30 MINUTES. THANK YOU SIR FOR YOUR TIME. YOUR TIME IS UP AND YOU'LL SEND THE COP. THANK YOU SIR, TO YOUR OFFICE TO THROW YOU THE HELL OUT. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 15 MINUTE RECESS AND WE WILL RETURN 15 MINUTES. I'LL FINISH IT THIS WAY IF DONALD TRUMP WAS HERE. SO I'LL CHANNEL DONALD TRUMP. YOU'RE FIRED. RESIGN. YOU'RE WORTHLESS. [02:28:33] [02:29:54] WE [02:29:54] CALL [02:29:54] THE MEETING BACK TO ORDER. YES SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN [02:30:03] AND STEVE LEVITT, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE BLUE MICROPHONE. AND WILL SHANNON JOHNSON AND EDITA POLSKI, PLEASE COME TO THE WHITE MICROPHONE. WE CALLED A MEETING BACK TO ORDER. ALSO COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT IN THE FRONT ROW PLEASE. TODD JOHNSON, CHAIRMAN AND KAREN, MITCH, MR. AND STEVE LEVI, THANK YOU. AND BEFORE WE START THIS NEXT SESSION, UM, AGAIN, THE HOUSE RULES STILL APPLY. LET'S BE MINDFUL OF WHAT HAS BEEN SAID AND LET, LET'S TRY TO DO WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE ASKED IS THAT IS SEAT IN THE FRONT ROW PLEASE. OUR MOTIONS, OUR CLAPPING HEARING SNEERING. LET'S REFRAIN FROM DOING THAT. THANK YOU. PLEASE, BEFORE WE START, WE'VE ASKED THAT NICELY MORE THAN WE SHOULD HAVE ASKED. THE HOUSE RULES STILL APPLY, SO, BUT WE DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISPUTE AND LISTEN AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN DO THAT, AND IT'S FOR US TO MOVE EXPEDITIOUSLY THROUGH OUR COMMENTS. SO MS. LEVIT, CORRECT CLAPPING HEARING SNEERING LES SMITH, I APOLOGIZE. YES, GO AHEAD PLEASE. YES. THANK YOU. JEAN SMITH, 7 0 1 1 BEN HALL CIRCLE. BUT WE DO WANT MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY GETS THE OPPORTUNITY. PARKSIDE VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M SEATING MY TIME TO STEVE LEVITT. THANK YOU STEVE LEVITT. I LIVE AT 70 36 BEN HALER. YES. ON AUGUST 30TH, JEAN SMITH DIED BEN AT NELSON LODGE QUARRY PARK IN OHIO. HE WAS CLIFF DIVING AND WAS UNAWARE WHAT LAY BELOW THE SURFACE OF THE WATER. I BRING THIS TO YOUR ATTENTION BECAUSE GLAND COUNTY IS CONTEMPLATING DIVING OFF A CLIFF WITHOUT A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT LIES BELOW THE SURFACE. SMITH, MY WIFE AND I HAVE ATTENDED MULTIPLE COUNTIES, TOD TZ MEETINGS AND IT'S VERY APPARENT THE COUNTY IS NOT CONSIDERING VARIOUS TECHNICAL ISSUES WHICH ARE CRUCIAL TO THE CREATION. SMITH, AS AN EXAMPLE, DIED, CONSIDER THE DATA IN OHIO IN SECTION. HE WAS CLIFF DIVING AND WAS UNAWARE OF THE D DESIGN. THE NOISES MEASURED IN D BLAND COUNTY. A WEIGHTED SCALE DIVING DE-EMPHASIZING LOWER WITHOUT A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF LOWER RISE SIDE, MY WIFE AND I HAVE IN MULTIPLE COUNTIES IS VERY APPARENT TO PRODUCE COUNTY LOW, CONSIDERING VARIOUS TECHNICAL ISSUES, LONG LOW CREATION TO TRAVEL AS AN EXAM. AUDIBLE FIVE. CONSIDERING THE DATA VERY DIFFERENT, HE WAS CLIFF DIVE IN A STORY MOSTLY INSIDER EPTEMBER 12TH MEASURED D MUTUAL WITHOUT THEY CAME SLEEPING IN THE, MY WIFE AND I ATTEMPT THE CDC CONFIRMS LOW ONLY DAY CLIFF AT THEY WILL NOT PROTECT A DATA. CENTERS VERY TEND TO BE DEVELOPED THIS POINT WHEN THEY DO NOT HAVE THEY NOT DATA CENTERS, PARTY RESEARCH IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA AND OTHER AREAS WITH SIMILAR INDUSTRIES SEEKING INPUT FROM LOCAL OFFICIALS AS WELL AS SURROUNDING BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS. HOW DO THESE INDUSTRIES AFFECT THE COMMUNITY? HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE? HOW DOES IT AFFECT HEALTH? HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE CHILDREN? STAFF HAS BEEN REMISS IN PRESENTING ANY NEGATIVES ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR PROPOSALS, MANY OF WHICH I'M CONFIDENT THEY ARE [02:35:01] AWARE THIS LACK OF TRANSPARENCY IS DISINGENUOUS AND POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. KNOWING THAT A PARTICULAR ENTITY MAY ADVERSELY AFFECT OUR HEALTH DEMAND SCRUTINY. THERE ARE TOO MANY UNKNOWNS DEFERRING THIS PROPOSAL. UNTIL MORE RESEARCH THOUGHT COMMUNITY INPUT AND TECHNICAL ANALYSIS CAN BE DONE SEEMS PRUDENT. WILL YOU APPROVE A PROPOSAL LACKING A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF ALL THE ISSUES WHICH YOU KNOW, HAVE A HIGH POTENTIAL TO ADVERSELY AFFECT OUR HEALTH, OUR PROPERTY VALUES, AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE? I CERTAINLY HOPE NOT. I IMPLORE YOU TO DEFER THIS PROPOSAL. IT'S HALF BAKED. IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO APPROVE IT AS IT STANDS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WHO'S NEXT PLEASE? MY NAME IS SHANNON JOHNSON, 12 4 0 4 AMERS SHIRE PLACE AND I SEED MY TIME TO EDIT UP PAUL SNICK. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS EDITA KOSNIK AND I RESIDE AT 1 2 3 4 0 MORNING CREEK ROAD. I'M A NURSE AND ALSO I WILL BE GRADUATING WITH MY DOCTORATE LEVEL DEGREE FROM VCU IN APRIL. I HAVE SPENT THE LAST FOUR YEARS WORKING IN DIFFERENT ONCOLOGY UNITS, INCLUDING CHEMOTHERAPY INFUSIONS AND BONE MARROW TRANSPLANT FLOOR WHERE I CARED FOR CHILDREN BATTLING THE MOST AGGRESSIVE FORMS OF CANCER, INCLUDING LEUKEMIA. I HAVE HELD THE HANDS OF TODDLERS AND I CRIED WITH THEM AS THEY CRIED FROM THE PAIN OF CHEMOTHERAPY. I HAVE WATCHED CHILDREN'S CHILDREN LOSE THEIR HAIR, THEIR STRENGTH, THEIR ABILITY TO WALK, TO EAT. I HAVE WATCHED PARENTS BREAK DOWN IN HOLLOWAYS. I HAVE HAD TO SAY GOODBYE TOO. TOO FAR TOO MANY CHILDREN WHOSE LITTLE BODIES COULDN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE, EVEN FOR THE LUCKY ONES WHO SURVIVE. THE JOURNEY IS BRUTAL, FULL OF SIDE EFFECTS, LIFELONG COMPLICATIONS AND RELAPSES THAT OFTEN COME WITH WORSE OUTCOMES. SO WHEN I HEAR THAT A NUCLEAR UNIT IS BEING PROPOSED NEAR HENRICO COUNTY, A COMMUNITY FULL OF SCHOOLS OF CHILDRENS, I CANNOT STAY SILENT. I AS PRESENTED BY PEER REVIEWED HIGHEST LEVEL OF EVIDENCE, META-ANALYSIS, RESEARCH STUDIES. THERE IS AN INCREASED RISK OF ALL CANCERS, THYROID, CANCER, AND ESPECIALLY LEUKEMIA AMONG RESIDENTS LIVING WITHIN 19 MILES OF NUCLEAR REACTOR. AND THE RISK IS HIGHEST IN CHILDREN UNTIL UNDER FIVE. THESE ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL DANGERS. THEY'RE WELL-DOCUMENTED STUDIES. WE KNOW CHILDREN ARE MORE PRONE TO THE RISKS OF RADIATION. THEIR CELLS ARE DIVIDING RAPIDLY, THEIR IMMUNE SYSTEMS ARE STILL DEVELOPING. THEY HAVE DECADES AHEAD OF THEM FOR RADIATION IN THOSE MUTATIONS TO MANIFEST AS DISEASE. YOU ARE BEING ASKED TO CONSIDER PLACING A HIGHLY EXPERIMENTAL NUCLEAR NUCLEAR REACTOR OF A KIND, NOT YET OPERATIONAL ANYWHERE IN THE US OR IN EUROPE IN SUCH A CLOSE PROXIMITY TO NEIGHBORHOODS, PARKS, AND SCHOOLS. THIS IS NOT A THEORETICAL RISK. THIS IS A VERY REAL THREAT TO CHILDREN'S HEALTH AND SAFETY. IF A CHILD IN THIS COMMUNITY IS DIAGNOSED WITH LEUKEMIA IN YEARS TO COME, WILL WE BE ABLE TO SAY WITH CERTAINTY THAT THE NUCLEAR REACTOR DID NOT PLAY A ROLE? NO. AND I ASSURE YOU, NO AMOUNT OF MONITORING OR REGULATORY LIMITS WILL BE ENOUGH TO COMFORT THE FAMILIES WHO MUST WATCH THEIR CHILDREN SUFFER THROUGH CHEMO TRANSPLANTS. AND WORSE, AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS AT THE BEDSIDE OF THESE CHILDREN TRYING TO EASE THEIR PAIN, COMFORTING THEM THROUGH SCREAMS AND SUBS, I IMPLORE YOU TO NOT ADD UNNECESSARY RISK TO THIS COMMUNITY, TO NOT GAMBLE WITH CHILDREN'S LIVES. ONCE THE COUNSELORS COME, THERE'S NO UNDOING IT. THERE ARE SAFER ENERGY SOURCES AND SAFER IDEAS FOR GENERATING INCOME FOR THE GOODLAND COUNTY. LET'S CHOOSE THOSE. LET'S NOT BUILD A NEW CLEAR EXPERIMENT [02:40:01] NEXT TO OUR SCHOOLS. THANK YOU. YOU'RE HERE. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKERS ARE TODD JOHNSON AND KAREN ERLAND. MY NAME IS TODD JOHNSON, 12 4 0 4 AMER SHIRE PLACE AND I SEED MY TIME TO KAREN MIDSHIP. THANK YOU. HI, I'M KAREN ICK, 12 2 0 1 MALLAM WAY. UM, BASICALLY I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED GLAND REGULATIONS THAT WILL ALLOW THE SMALL MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTOR PLACED JUST SOUTH OF CANE ROAD NORTH OF 64 TO POWER THE DATA CENTERS. IT APPEARS THAT SMRS ARE LARGELY THEORETICAL AND UNTESTED. UM, THERE ARE NO SMRS IN OPERATION IN THE UNITED STATES. UM, STUDIES SHOW THAT SMRS PRODUCE TWO TO 30 TIMES THE RADIOACTIVE WASTE OF OLDER NUCLEAR DESIGNS AND WASTE THAT WE HAVE NO SAFE LONG-TERM DISPOSAL SITE FOR. UM, THE LAST WEEK, THE UM, GLAND PERSON DID SAY THAT THE YOUR PLANS FOR THE NUCLEAR WASTE DISPOSAL ARE TO TRUCK IT OFFSITE. HOWEVER, AT THE MOMENT THERE ARE NO REALISTIC PROSPECTS FOR LICENSING CENTRALIZED SITES WHERE THE USED REACTORS COULD BE TAKEN FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE, ANY COMMUNITY WITH AN SMR WILL HAVE TO PLAN TO BE A DEFACTO LONG-TERM NUCLEAR WASTE DISPOSAL SITE. THIS PUTS OUR HOMES WELL WITHIN THE 10 MILE RADIUS OF REQUIRING PLANS FOR EVACUATION AND SHELTER IN PLACE. UM, THE GENTLEMAN LAST WEEK SAID THAT THERE'S NO, THAT THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT ANY IMPACTS TO HENRICO CITIZENS. HOWEVER, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THERE ARE OVER 75,000 RESIDENTS OF HENRICO THAT WILL BE LESS THAN 10 MILES FROM THIS NUCLEAR REACTOR SITE IN, IN ADDITION TO 12 OR MORE SCHOOLS. IMPACTS DO NOT STOP AT COUNTY LINES. THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT NUCLEAR REACTIVITY OR NUCLEAR WASTE THAT WOULD STOP AT THE GLIN HENRICO LINE. THIS DOES IMPACT HENRICO RESIDENTS AS WELL. WE PROVIDE UP TO 25,000 GALLONS OF WATER A DAY FOR GLAND. WE ALSO PROVIDE EMS AND FIRE SERVICES AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS WITH Y'ALL. IT WOULD BE VERY NEIGHBORLY TO GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION TO HENRICO RESIDENTS WHO ARE GOING TO BACK RIGHT UP TO THIS NUCLEAR REACTOR. THE SITE THAT THE, UM, THE PROPOSED NUCLEAR REACTOR IS, UM, RIGHT ON TOP OF WHERE THE EPICENTER OF THE LAST EARTHQUAKE WAS. SO YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT THIS IS AT ACTUALLY A SAFE SITE. THERE'S ALSO COMPLAINTS IN THE AREA ABOUT THE LUX STONE BLASTING IN THE AREA SHAKING HOUSES. I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT A NUCLEAR REACTOR WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO SHA TO ISSUES WITH SHAKING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKERS PLEASE COME TO THE FRONT. DIANE HALVERSON LEE HALON TO THE WHITE MICROPHONE. NICOLE VAN DERVIN AND MELODY LAWHORN TO THE BLUE MICROPHONE ONCE THE HALVERSONS HAVE FINISHED AND THEN IN THE FRONT ROW. IF YOU COULD TAKE A SEAT. DIANE SEL, KAREN FORTUNA D HAYNES, AND RICHARD HAYNES. MY NAME IS DIANE HALVERSON. I LIVE AT 1 2 2 5 3 BREMNER RIDGE CIRCLE IN READERS BRANCH AND I SEED MY TIME TO LEE HALVERSON. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME'S LEE HALVERSON. I LIVE AT 1 2 2 5 3 BREMNER RIDGE CIRCLE, UH, MANNEQUIN SABBATH IN READERS BRANCH. FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU DO FOR US AND, UH, I I TRULY DO APPRECIATE IT. IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND, AND RECENTLY IT'S BEEN A LOT OF PRESSURE. I'M HERE TO SPEAK OUT AGAINST CHANGING THE PARKING PLACE TO OFFICE SPACE RATIO. RIGHT NOW IT'S 300, UH, FEET FOR ONE PARKING SPACE. AND I, I'D LIKE TO KEEP IT LIKE THAT. WHEN THAT STANDARD WAS SET, THE CONCEPT OF A DATA CENTER WAS QUITE DIFFERENT THAN, THAN THE MILLION SQUARE FEET NOISY, UNHEALTHY, UH, BLOCKHOUSES WE'D GET TODAY IF THE OWNERS WANT TO USE BUYRIGHT CONSTRUCTION. AND THAT TO ME IS THE REAL ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM. THE TOD IS A PRODUCTIVE EFFORT, BUT THE REAL ELEPHANT IS HAVING, UH, THE BUILDERS TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND DO THINGS WITH PRETTY MUCH OUT, UH, [02:45:01] ANY PUBLIC OVERSIGHT OTHER THAN THE NORMAL ZONING RULES. SO IF THE OWNERS WANT TO DO THAT, THEN THEY SHOULD ALSO HAVE TO DO THE BUYRIGHT PARKING SPACES. SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY ONE OF THE FEW, UH, CONTROLS THAT WE HAVE OVER BUYRIGHT BUILDING TO MAKE THEM DO, YOU KNOW, A MILLION SQUARE FOOT DATA CENTER COMPLEX IS GONNA REQUIRE ABOUT 20 ACRES OF PARKING. THAT'S A LOT. IF AN OWNER OPTS INTO AN EVENTUAL TOD THAT REDUCED THE PARKING SPACES, THAT WOULD BE A COOL THING. BUT ON ITS OWN TO STAND ALONE TO IN BE INCLUDED IN BY BY, RIGHT, THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY A MISTAKE. THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK ABOUT, WELL, WE CAN'T CHANGE BY, RIGHT? BUT IN FACT, IF THE HEALTH AND WELFARE OF THE CITIZENS HERE AND ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY IS THREATENED BY THE ZONING RULE OR A PROFFER, THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS THE AUTHORITY, STATUTORY AUTHORITY, AND A MANDATE TO CHANGE THE CODE. WE ARE NEIGHBORHOODS AND FAMILIES AND PEOPLE. WE AREN'T SWEET SPOTS AND GRIDS ON A, ON A SPREADSHEET. YOU TELL US YOU WON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER COUNTIES AND YOU WANT TO DO IT THE GLAND WAY. BUT HONESTLY, LOOKING BACK THAT WAY IS LITTERED WITH MISTAKES. FOUR DECADES AGO, YOU AND THE BOARD LOCATED INDUSTRIAL ZONES RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS WITH LITTLE PROTECTION FOR THE PEOPLE. THAT WAS A MISTAKE. IN 2014, YOU AND THE BOARD CHANGED THE DEFINITION OF A DATA CENTER FROM WITHIN AN OFFICE BUILDING TO A MULTI ACRE COMPLEX ZONE M1 WITH BY RIGHT WITHOUT ANY PROTECTION, RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. YOU HAD A HUB. UH, THE, THE BOARD HAD A PUBLIC HEARING, NO ONE SHOWED UP. NO ONE LIVED THERE IN 2014 IN READER'S BRANCH IN MOSAIC AND AVERY POINT. AND IT WAS JUST A GROWING NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE PARK RIGHT NEXT DOOR. SO IT WASN'T SURPRISING THAT NOBODY SHOWED UP EFFECTIVELY. IT WAS APPROVED BY RIGHT, WAS APPROVED WITH DEFACTO NO PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT WAS A MISTAKE. YOU COULD HAVE GONE TO VISIT COUNTIES WITH EXISTING DATA CENTERS LIKE I'M FROM NORTHERN VIRGINIA. I'VE SEEN LOUDOUN COUNTY, I'VE WALKED LOUDOUN COUNTY, I'VE LISTENED TO LOUDOUN COUNTY. IT'S, IT'S AN EXPERIENCE YOU DIDN'T VISIT. THAT WAS A MISTAKE. IN 20 17 20 17, READERS BRANCH WAS AUTHORIZED FOR DEVELOPMENT. YOU APPROVED IT WITHOUT A PROTECTIONS, YOU ALLOWING BUYRIGHT DATA CENTERS. THAT WAS A MISTAKE. IN 2018, THE MOSAIC 55 PLUS COMMUNITY WAS APPROVED. AGAIN, YOU KNEW ABOUT THE BUYRIGHT DATA CENTERS, YET YOU APPROVED THE DEVELOPMENT WITHOUT MEANINGFUL BOUN BOUNDARIES, PROTECTIONS, OR BUFFERS. THAT WAS A MISTAKE. IT LOOKS LIKE THE OPTICS HERE ARE YOU'RE LETTING BIG MONEY VICTIMIZE THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTY AND DICTATE THE RULES, REGULATIONS, SAFEGUARDS AND STATUTORY COMPLIANCE AND THE VERY HEALTH AND SAFETY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS GLAND WILL NO LONGER BE A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE, WORK, OR WORSHIP. IF THAT'S THE KIND OF ATTITUDE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, WE NEED TO START ESTABLISHING A BETTER RELATIONSHIP. ONE OF TRUST. IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO CONTINUE ON WITH THIS BY DIRECT ZONING. I URGE YOU TO STOP DATA CENTERS NOW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT PLEASE. NICOLE VANDER AND MELODY LAWHORN. MY NAME IS NICOLE VANDER VAN. I LIVE AT 1 2 6 0 1 HEATHER GROVE ROAD AND I SEED MY TIME TO MELODY LAWHORN. THANK YOU. MY NAME'S MELODY LAWHORN OF CEDAR PLAINS IN CLAND, VIRGINIA. GOOD EVENING. I STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF A COMPLETE AND TRANSPARENT PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED SMR NUCLEAR POWER PLANT. THERE HAS BEEN NO CLEAR PRESENTATION TO THE COMMUNITY, NO ROBUST EMERGENCY RESPONSE STRATEGY, NO ANSWERS ON LONG-TERM NUCLEAR WASTE STORAGE AND CERTAINLY NO CONSIDERATION OF THE RISK WE'RE BEING ASKED TO SHOULDER. LET'S BE CLEAR, SMR HAS NEVER BEEN OPERATED IN THE UNITED STATES. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH LONG-TERM SAFETY DATA TO JUSTIFY TURNING GOLIN [02:50:01] INTO A TEST SITE. WE'RE BEING ASKED TO BE GUINEA PIGS FOR AN EXPERIMENTAL TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS A HUGE LIABILITY FOR GLAND COUNTY. AND REMEMBER IN JAPAN, FIMA IN 2011 TRIGGERED BY AN EARTHQUAKE. WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE THREE QUARRIES THAT RUN WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THE PROPOSED SMR SITE ON THE GLAND, HANNOVER AND HENRICO BORDER. AND EVEN HOMES IN HENRI'S WESTERN ESTATES FEEL BLAST NOISE AND SHAKING FROM IT. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ONE OF THOSE VIBRATIONS INTERACTS WITH THE UNTESTED SMR REACTOR IS GLAND PREPARED FOR THAT SCENARIO? WHERE ARE THE NATIONAL NUCLEAR COMMISSION SEISMIC AND GEOTECHNICAL ASSESSMENTS TO ENSURE THAT QUARRY ACTIVITY DOESN'T THREATEN THE REACTOR'S FOUNDATION CONTAINMENT STRUCTURES OR SAFETY SYSTEMS IN ORDER TO CONTAIN CONSIDER ZONING THAT INCLUDES THIS TECHNOLOGY, THE PUBLIC AND THE BOARD SHOULD BE PROVIDED WITH THIS INFORMATION. AND WHAT ABOUT LAKE ANNA? IT'S JUST 40 MILES AWAY AND ALREADY HOME TO A NUCLEAR PLANT. ANY SEISMIC IMPACT OR ACCIDENT IN GLIN COULD RIPPLE ACROSS THE REGION. COULD IT TRIGGER A SECONDARY INCIDENT IN LAKE ANNA? BEFORE LAKE ANNA'S PLANT WAS BUILT, THE SURROUNDING POPULATION WAS SPARSE. TODAY OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE LIVE WITHIN A 20 MILE RADIUS OF THE PROPOSED GLIN TECHNOLOGICAL PARK, INCLUDING DOZENS OF SCHOOLS WITHIN A 10 MILE ZONE, INCLUDING THE GLIN HIGH SCHOOL WHERE WE SIT TONIGHT, ALL HOUSING THE NEXT GENERATION OF MULTIPLE COUNTIES. NOT ONLY ARE POSSIBLE REACTOR SAFETY CONCERNS VALID, BUT THE STORAGE OF THE RADIOACTIVE OF NUCLEAR WASTE THAT LIVES FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS. ACCORDING TO THE LARGE META META ANALYSIS FROM HEALTH EFFECTS OF OCCUPATIONAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL EXPOSURES OF NUCLEAR POWER, THE DATA FOUND A 9% INCREASE IN RISK OF LEUKEMIA. 17% INCREASE IN THYROID CANCER AND 5% INCREASE FOR ALL CANCERS COMPARED TO LIVING FURTHER AWAY. CHILDREN UNDER FIVE YEARS OLD ARE BEING THE MOST VULNERABLE. ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY. THE AM LEUKEMIA HAS A A SURVIVAL RATE OF ONLY 65 TO 70% AT FIVE YEARS FOR CHILDREN UNDER 15. IN RECENT US DATA, EVEN SMALL INCREASES IN INCIDENT MATTER WHEN THE RISK IS BEING SOLD AS LOW BECAUSE THE DAMAGE CAN BE LIFELONG AND DIFFICULT TO TREAT. ASIDE FROM THE SAFETY AND SECURITY ISSUES THAT HAVE HELD UP THE SMR TECHNOLOGY FOR SO SUCH A LONG TIME, THE COST IS EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER. IN FACT, IT'S OVER TWO TIMES MORE EXPENSIVE THAN NATURAL GAS, WIND AND SOLAR SMR TECHNOLOGY IS BEING MARKETED AS A AS GREAT FOR REMOTE LOCATIONS AND IS A SMALLER AND NEEDS LESS PEOPLE TO OPERATE. SO WHY IS THIS UNTESTED IN THE US? TECHNOLOGY BEING PROPOSED FOR WHAT ESSENTIALLY EQUATES TO SHORT PUMP? WHEN SPEAKING WITH THE GLAND PLANNING, I WAS INFORMED THAT NEITHER THE PROPOSED TECHNOLOGY PARK NOR THE NEW ELI LILLY SITE NEEDED THIS POWER TO OPERATE, THAT IT WAS ADDED TO MAKE THE TECHNOLOGICAL PARK MORE APPEALING. SO WHY TAKE THE RISK OF CENTURIES OF NUCLEAR WASTE DOUBLE THE COST AND POSSIBLE NUCLEAR DISASTER TO MAKE AN ALREADY APPEALING TECHNOLOGY PARK THAT HAS ATTRACTED A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR COMPANY WITHOUT IT? SO I ASK IF THERE IS A DISASTER IF YOUR CHILD GETS CANCER THAT ONLY HAS 65% CHANCE OF SURVIVING FIVE YEARS, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? WHAT LIABILITY DOES THE COUNTY HOLD FOR ENDORSING AN EXPERIMENTAL TECHNOLOGY? WE ALSO LACK A DETAILED EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN. WHERE DO PEOPLE GO? HOW ARE THEY EVACUATED? DOES GUGLIN HAVE THE RESOURCES FOR THAT? WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE NUCLEAR WASTE? HOW IS IT STORED LONG TERM? WHO HOLDS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF WHAT HAPPENS TO IT FOR 50 OR A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW AND IS AS THERE IS NO SAFE OR CLEAR WAY TO MAKE IT NON-NUCLEAR OR RECYCLE IT SAFELY? OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES ANSWERS, NOT ASSUMPTIONS. IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR A ZONING CHANGE THAT INCLUDES AN SMR, THE SAFETY BURDEN OF PROOF MUST BE MET. AND IT HAS NOT, THIS ISN'T JUST A ZONING ISSUE, IT'S ABOUT LIVES, LAND AND LEGACY. LET'S MAKE SURE GOOCHLAND ISN'T REMEMBERED AS THE COUNTY THAT GAMBLED WITH ITS FUTURE, BUT PRESERVED IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS. THANK YOU. NEXT PLEASE. DIANE SEL AND KAREN FORTUNA. MY NAME IS DIANE LEY. I LIVE AT 93 15 CITRINE DRIVE, NO RUN, SORRY. UM, IN MOSAIC. AND I SEED MY TIME TO KAREN FORTUNA. THANK YOU. HI, I'M KAREN FORTUNA. I LIVE AT 97 0 5 KALEIDOSCOPE ROW AND UH, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. I'M A NEW RESIDENT OF GLAND COUNTY AND RESIDE IN DISTRICT FIVE'S MOSAIC AT WEST CREEK. MANY PROBLEMS SURROUND THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT OR TOD AND TECHNOLOGY ZONE TZ. BUT I'M GONNA FOCUS ON THE POLITICAL INEQUITIES. NO ONE IS [02:55:01] OPPOSED TO BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BRING MONEY INTO GLAND COUNTY. WE JUST WANT IT TO BE THE APPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, NOT JUST A FEW. THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE PURCHASED HOMES ZONED RESIDENTIAL BORDERED BY AGRICULTURAL AND LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONING. WE BELIEVED IT WAS A SAFE INVESTMENT AND A NICE PLACE TO LIVE IN OUR TWILIGHT YEARS. WE COULD NEVER HAVE IMAGINED SUCH A THING AS A TOD AND TZ WITH A BY RIGHT DESIGNATION SUPERSEDING ALL RESIDENTIAL RIGHTS. RESIDENTS OF DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE HAVE LOST THEIR VOTING RIGHTS CONCERNING ALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE TOD AND TZ BECAUSE OF THE BUY RIGHT CLAUSE THAT THE SUPERVISORS DON'T WANT TO REMOVE IN ORDER TO FAST TRACK THE APPROVAL PROCESS FOR DATA CENTERS AND NUCLEAR POWER. IN ADDITION, OUR SUPERVISORS VOTES CAN ALSO BE NEGATED BY A THREE TO TWO VOTE, THUS AGAIN, LEAVING THE RESIDENTS OF FOUR AND FIVE WITH NO VOTES AND NO REPRESENTATION RESULTING IN ONE, TWO, AND THREE. REAPING THE REWARDS OF DEVELOPMENT WHILE FOUR AND FIVE, PAY THE HEFTY PRICE WITH DIMINISHING PROPERTY VALUES, HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES. AND THIS IS JUST NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS LEAVING DISTRICTS FOUR AND FIVE WITH TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION. I WOULD SAY IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A CLASS ACTION THING THERE. ALTHOUGH THE SUPERVISORS HAVE ALREADY MADE DECISIONS REGARDING THE TOD AND TZ, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE THESE TOWN HALL MEETINGS TO SHOW TRANSPARENCY OF INFORMATION AND WILLINGNESS TO COMPROMISE WITH RESIDENTIAL INPUT. THERE IS NO COMPROMISE HERE. WE ARE REDUCED TO PLEADING FOR SMALL CONCESSIONS TO EXISTING RIDICULOUS PROTOCOLS THAT HAVE BEEN RELAXED IN ORDER TO ATTRACT DATA CENTER INVESTORS. AND I WANNA ADD, I WAS APPALLED. I DID NOT REALIZE THAT AT ANY MOMENT THEY COULD CHANGE THE TOD AND ADD THINGS OR TAKE AWAY THINGS SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY VOTE ON THAT IN THE FUTURE. I DON'T KNOW WHY ANYBODY WOULD WANT A TOD BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE INPUT TO IT. AND IN THE FUTURE THEY CAN CHANGE IT AT ANY MOMENT. LIKE TAKING AWAY 30, UH, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF 30%, UH, OPEN SPACE DOWN TO 20 OR HEY, WE JUST WANNA ADD A, A SMALL NUCLEAR REACTOR. IS THAT OKAY? WE HAVE TO SAY NO. CURRENTLY WE ARE AT THE MERCY OF WHAT THE PLANNING COMMITTEE, SORRY GUYS, UH, DECIDES TO RECOMMEND TO THE SUPERVISORS AND THEN WHAT THE SUPERVISORS IN THREE DISTRICTS DECIDE TO APPROVE. AND I SAY THREE DISTRICTS BECAUSE FOUR AND FIVE CAN GET OUTVOTED AT ANY TIME BY A THREE TO TWO VOTE. SO IT WAS BRILLIANT STRATEGY TO JUST DO THIS TO FOUR AND FIVE AND LEAVE THREE THAT CAN OUT VOTE THEM. AND I HOPE ONE, TWO, AND THREE. I HOPE SOMEBODY'S HERE BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING STOPPING THEM FROM THIS HAPPENING TO THEM. SUDDENLY WE'RE DOING SOMETHING IN ONE AND TWO AND THEY GET OUTVOTED BY THE REST OF US. SO WE ARE AT THAT MERCY GLAND COUNTY LEADERSHIP NEEDS TO PAUSE THE DECISION MAKING BY AT LEAST A FEW MONTHS AND REMOVE THE BUY RIGHT CLAUSE FROM THE TOD AND TZ DEVELOPMENT PLAN. THEY ALSO NEED TO TAKE A MORE SERIOUS LOOK AT THE ENTIRE COUNTY, NOT JUST THE CURRENT AREAS. WITHIN FOUR AND FIVE. THIS WILL ENGAGE ALL THE DISTRICTS RATHER THAN CONTINUING TO PIT DISTRICTS AGAINST EACH OTHER. LEARN FROM LOUDOUN COUNTY. AND THE FACT IS THAT AS OF THIS YEAR, THEY HAVE CHANGED THEIR ENTIRE BUSINESS MODEL BECAUSE OF THE MISTAKES THEY MADE WITH THE DATA CENTERS. ALL OF THE LOCAL COUNTIES SURROUNDING GLAND HAVE LEARNED FROM THOSE MISTAKES, AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY GLAND CAN'T BENEFIT FROM THAT KNOWLEDGE AS WELL. WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AS A COUNTY AND NOT DIVIDE AND SUBJUGATE OUR DISTRICTS. LET'S MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO PROTECT ALL OF OUR RIGHTS AND QUALITY OF LIFE WHILE STRIVING TO MAKE GLAND COUNTY PROSPEROUS LEADERS INVOKE DEMOCRACY. LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND EMBRACE THE DEMOCRATIC VOTING PROCESS. ALTHOUGH DATA CENTERS AND NUCLEAR POWER ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE, WORKING TOGETHER, WE CAN FIND THE RIGHT CASH COWS. THANK YOU. BELIEVE ME. THANK YOU. NEXT, PLEASE. DEE HAYES AND, AND RICHARD HAYNES. AND THEN IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME TO THE [03:00:01] FRONT AND HAVE A SEAT FOR YOUR TIME TO SPEAK. AMY HOSTETLER, STEVEN SCHROCK, BRUCE SILVERMAN, BRECKENRIDGE DORY, SUSAN WILLIS, AND VLADIMIR OV. MY NAME IS DEE HAYNES. I LIVE AT 50 FLEETWOOD LANE, MANNEQUIN SABBATH. I SEE MY TIME TO MY HUSBAND, RICHARD HAYNES. THANK YOU. RICHARD HAYNES, 50 FLEETWOOD LANE, MANNEQUIN, SAOT, VIRGINIA 2 3 1 0 3. CHAIRMAN, UH, BOARD. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I'M COMING FROM A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ANGLE AND GOING TO SHARE SOME THINGS NOBODY ELSE HAS SAID. AS FAR AS I'VE KNOWN, I'VE BEEN IN GOLAND COUNTY FOR 43 YEARS, SO I CONSIDER MYSELF AN OLD GOLAND. I LOVE GOLAND AND I I LOVE TO SEE MOST OF WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT'S DONE. MY FIRST STATEMENT IS THIS, NOT LONG AFTER I MOVED HERE, THERE WAS A HUGE CHANGE TO OUR COUNTY AND IT WAS CALLED WEST CREEK. AND I WANNA TELL YOU WHAT, I THINK WEST CREEK'S THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTY. I'VE WATCHED WEST CREEK CHANGE OF WEST IT GROW. I'M SO THANKFUL FOR WEST CREEK. YOU NEVER KNOW IT, BUT I USED TO BE A RUNNER AND I, I RAN THAT LOOP AT WEST CREEK, A SIX MILE LOOP. I MUST RUN THAT THING A THOUSAND TIMES. BEAUTIFUL. THE SCENERY, NO TRAFFIC. I LOVE WEST CREEK AND I'VE WATCHED COMPANIES COME IN AND IT'S JUST BEEN PHENOMENAL. AND SO I'VE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE GARNER'S ARE GOOD FRIENDS OF MINE. I KNOW THEY'RE NEIGHBORS. I LIVE JUST WEST OF RICHMOND COUNTRY CLUB, 15 ACRES THERE. AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD, TWO HOMES. AND YOU KNOW, I'VE WORKED WITH THE GARNERS ON THEIR THOUGHTS AND DEVELOPMENT AND EVERYTHING. I'VE BEEN WITH THE, THE PLANS AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF TALKING ABOUT THAT. BUT I LOOK AT THIS, UH, TOD THING AND MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT'S DRIVING THE NEED FOR THIS? I SEE NO ACTUAL NEED FOR THE TOD. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT PLAN. I MEAN, TONS OF WORK AND WHO KNOWS HOW MUCH MONEY HAS BEEN PUT INTO THIS. TODI HAVE NO TECHNICAL PROBLEM WITH THE TOD. IT ACTUALLY BORDERS MY WESTERN AND NORTHERN PROPERTY LINES. SO THAT THEORETICALLY A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT, WELL THAT'S GOING UP NORTH. SO, BUT A DATA CENTER COULD BE BUILT CLOSE TO MY HOME. AM I WORRIED ABOUT THAT? YOU KNOW WHY I'M NOT. I'M 80 YEARS OLD, I'M NOT GONNA BE HERE. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? FOR MY KIDS, WE HAVE EIGHT WONDERFUL KIDS MY WIFE GAVE ME. IT'S JUST GONNA HELP MY KIDS. THE FINANCIAL BENEFIT. SO WHAT'S MY CONCERN? MY REAL CONCERN IS THIS, THERE IS NO DRIVING NEED FOR THE TOD. IS THERE ANY COMPANY KNOCKING ON THE DOOR OF GLAND COUNTY PROPOSING A DATA CENTER? YES OR NO? NOT THAT I KNOW OF. IS THERE ANY COMPANY KNOCKING ON THE GLAND'S DOOR PROPOSING A SMALL NUCLEAR MODULAR NUCLEAR POWER PLANT? NOT THAT I KNOW OF. SO WHAT IS DRIVING THE TOD? WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL THE EXISTING RULES AND REQUIREMENTS THAT EXIST IN WEST CREEK? IS WEST CREEK NOT BIG ENOUGH TO HANDLE THE FUTURE NEEDS OF DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COUNTY? GOOD GOING. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF WEST CREEK IS DEVELOPED? IT'S WAY LESS THAN 50%. RIGHT? WAY LESS. SO ALL THAT'S NEEDED FOR OUR COUNTY FOR DEVELOPMENT IS SITTING THERE IN WEST CREEK. AND OF COURSE THEY WANTED TO DEVELOP, I WANTED TO DEVELOP, I WANTED TO GO ON ITS ORIGINAL LINE. ONE OF MY GREATEST CONCERNS WAS WHEN WEST CREEK STARTED VIOLATING IT, ITS ORIGINAL COVENANTS AND WAKE WEST CREEK STARTED BECOMING RESIDENTIAL. THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF WEST CREEK WAS TO ELIMINATE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL. IT'S GONNA PREVENT CHESTERFIELD'S GROWTH AND IT'S GONNA BECOME LIGHT INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL. WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT CHANGED THE COUNTY'S MIND, BUT THIS WHOLE THING OF THE NEED FOR TOD, I'M JUST SAYING WHAT IS THE DRIVING NEED? I SEE NONE. SO I'D LIKE TO ASK YOU AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, ASK YOURSELVES, WHAT IS THE DRIVING NEED FOR THE TOD? GIVE ME ONE OTHER [03:05:01] THAN, I DON'T KNOW IF CERTAIN LANDOWNERS ARE KNOCKING ON THE DOOR, BUT TO ME EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED IS RIGHT THERE IN WEST CREEK. WHY ADD TO THAT? WHY CHANGE THAT NOW? WHAT'S JUST BEEN ANNOUNCED THAT IS PHENOMENAL FOR OUR COUNTY. WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE COMPANY? LILLY, GUESS WHAT? I GREW UP IN INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA. AND GUESS THAT'S THE HEADQUARTERS OF WHAT? LILLY? ELI LILLY, MY BEST FRIEND'S DAD WAS ONE OF THE TOP VPS FOR ELI LILLY. AND YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID FOR ME? OH MY GOODNESS. HE TALKED ME INTO GOING TO COLLEGE WHERE I WENT TO COLLEGE. SO MY PROPOSAL IS ELI LILLY IS GONNA DRAW, DRAW ALL THE NEW BUSINESS THAT WE NEED. ELON LILLY'S GONNA BE ONE. BEN SAID IT WAS A COWBELL. ELON LILLY IS GONNA HAVE MORE IMPACT ON NEW BUSINESS COMING TO WEST CREEK THAN ANYTHING WE COULD DEVISE CALLED A TOD. YEAH. THANK YOU SIR. I, I PROPOSE LASTLY, I PROPOSE ONE THING. IF YOU'RE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS, YOU KNOW THE PROBLEMS. DO A REFERENDUM. DO IT ON THE REFERENDUM. THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT, PLEASE. AMY HOSTETTLER, PLEASE. OKAY, AND THANK YOU FOR PRONOUNCING MY LAST NAME CORRECTLY. UM, I'M AMY HOSTETTLER. GOOD EVENING. I LIVE AT 1 2 3 2 5 BEACH HALL CIRCLE IN READERS BRANCH, AT LEAST FOR NOW. UM, AFTER HEARING THE 65 DECIBELS, I'VE ALREADY TOLD MY HUSBAND, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE , WE'RE NOT GONNA BE STAYING HERE IF THAT'S IN OUR BACKYARD. AND OUR BACKYARD ABUTS THE, UM, TOD AREA. THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR FOREVER HOME. UM, UM, I HAD A WHOLE BUNCH OF STUFF WRITTEN DOWN, BUT FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA COMMEND THE COUNTY AND THE STAFF WHO ARE COMING UP WITH, UM, THE PROPOSAL BEFORE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT BEGINS. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE RIGHT INSTINCT, YOU KNOW, GET OUT AHEAD OF IT, BUT I URGE YOU TO LISTEN. I MEAN, 700 PEOPLE ATTENDED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING. WHEN, WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN THE LAST TIME? I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, WE'RE TELLING YOU SOMETHING. UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE TELLING YOU THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND PUT THE BRAKES ON, DEFER THE PROPOSAL. YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO THINK THIS THROUGH BECAUSE THIS TOD WILL AFFECT THE COUNTY FOR GENERATIONS. NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, MY LIFETIME, UH, THE 80-YEAR-OLD GENTLEMAN. YOU KNOW, THIS IS GONNA BE GENERATIONS OF PEOPLE IT AFFECTS AND I REALLY URGE YOU TO NOT JUST LISTEN, BUT TO RESPOND TO THE RESIDENTS AND OUR CONCERNS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STEVEN SCHROCK. STEVEN SCHROCK, 12 2 0 1 B BRINER RIDGE CIRCLE MANNEQUIN SHABBAT. I ALSO THANK YOU FOR WHOEVER IT WAS BACK THERE THAT PRONOUNCED MY NAME CORRECTLY. I'M A LITTLE SHOCKED TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. UM, I'M HERE IN REFERENCE TO SECTION 15, 450 PERMITTED USES SECTION A EIGHT. I'LL SPEAK ABOUT SMRS BEING ALLOWED BY RIGHT AND THE PROCESS OF LEARNING FROM MISTAKES. I WORKED AT THE US NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION FOR SOME YEARS. I FACILITATED PANELS OF NUCLEAR EXPERTS IN THEIR DEBATES ON ACCIDENT PREVENTION AND EMERGENCY RESPONSE DEBATES BASED ON MISTAKES THEY OBSERVED. LEARNING FROM MISTAKES. THAT IS HOW SAFETY PROCEDURES AND ENGINEERING IMPROVEMENTS ARE MADE OVER TIME. BRIDGES COLLAPSE TRAINS, CRASH BUILDINGS FALL. ENGINEERS LEARN. IN THEORY, ENG SMRS MIGHT BE SAFER THAN LARGE REACTORS. WE HAVE NO HISTORY. AN ACCIDENT PROBABLY WILL NOT HAPPEN HERE. WE DO NOT KNOW HOW SMR TECHNOLOGY WILL CHANGE OR HOW THE DEFINITION OF THEM WILL CHANGE. BACK IN 1987, DATA CENTERS WERE ALLOWED BY, RIGHT? WE'VE SEEN HOW THAT HAS CHANGED. THE DATA CENTER THAT I USED TO WORK IN IN 1987 WAS ABOUT A FIFTH. THE SIZE OF THE ROOM THAT WE'RE STANDING IN RIGHT NOW, AS WRITTEN, THE ORDINANCE WILL ALLOW SMRS BY RIGHT BY RIGHT WHEN, JUST TONIGHT, THE BUILDING OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE ON FOUR ACRES OF LAND REQUIRED A REVIEW BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND A VOTE BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN AN SMR. [03:10:01] I HAVE TWO OBSERVATIONS. FIRST, I AM SURPRISED BY THE COUNTY'S ABSOLUTE FAITH IN THE PERFECT INFALLIBILITY OF FEDERAL REGULATORS TO KEEP US SAFE. NO HISTORICAL EXPERIENCE WITH SMRS, NO LEARNING FROM MISTAKES. RELIANCE ON INFORMATION FROM RUSSIA AND RED CHINA. SECOND AT THE STROKE OF A PEN AND EXECUTIVE ORDER COULD EXEMPT ANY SMR PROJECT FROM REGULATION OR GUT THE ENTIRE REGULATORY PROCESS. IN SUMMARY, GLIN WILL PROBABLY NOT EXPERIENCE AN ACCIDENT. WE WILL PROBABLY NOT BE KNOWN AS CHERNOBYL ON THE JAMES, BUT PLEASE REMEMBER THE CHOICE WE HAVE AND WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING AT IT? ARE YOU LOOKING AT IT FROM A, A POINT OF VIEW OF PERFECT INFALLIBILITY VERSUS THE TIME TESTED LEARNING FROM MISTAKES? PLEASE VOTE TO DEFER AND INSIST ON MAKING SMRS AT LEAST SUBJECT TO A CUP TO DO OTHERWISE WOULD NOT JUST BE A BIG MISTAKE, IT WOULD BE A TITANIC MISTAKE. THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT, PLEASE. BRUCE SILVERMAN. GOOD EVENING. UH, MY NAME IS DR. BRUCE SILVERMAN. I RESIDE AT 1340 HOSLER DRIVE IN MANNEQUIN SABBATH. I ALSO SERVE, UH, AS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR AT GLAND CARES. UH, IN 2024. UH, OUR GENERAL ASSEMBLY, UM, DIRECTED, UH, UH, THE JOINT LEGISLATIVE AUDIT AND REVIEW COMMISSION, UH, TO STUDY DATA CENTERS. THEIR MAIN RECOMMENDATION WAS THE FOLLOWING. THE INDUSTRIAL SCALE OF DATA CENTERS MAKE SOME LARGELY INCOMPATIBLE RESIDENTIAL USES. ONE THIRD OF DATA CENTERS ARE CURRENTLY LOCATED NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND INDUSTRIES. TRENDS MAKE FUTURE RESIDENTIAL IMPACTS. MORE LIKELY INADEQUATE. LOCAL PLANNING AND ZONING HAVE ALLOWED SOME DATA CENTERS TO BE LOCATED NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WHICH SOMETIMES CAUSES IMPACTS ON THOSE RESIDENTS. IN SOME CASES, THIS OCCURRED BECAUSE LOCAL ZONING AUDIENCES DID NOT CONSIDER DATA CENTERS TO BE AN INDUSTRIAL USE. IN ADDITION, SOME LOCALITIES HAVE ZONED INDUSTRIAL AREAS NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. EVEN THOUGH LAND USE PRINCIPLES STATE THAT INDUSTRIAL USES AND RESIDENTIAL USES SHOULD NOT BE ZONED NEXT TO EACH OTHER. LOCAL ELECTORAL OFFICIALS HAVE ALSO GRANTED DATA CENTERS EXCEPTIONS THAT LED TO ADVERSE RESIDENTIAL IMPACTS SUCH AS APPROVING REZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW DATA CENTERS NEXT TO THESE SENSITIVE LOCATIONS. THEN WHY ARE WE CONTINUING ON THIS PATH WHEN WE'VE BEEN DIRECTED BY THE STATE NOT TO DO THIS? I HEAR THAT TAX REVENUE IS THE MAJOR PUSH TO REQUIRE THESE DATA CENTERS IN OUR COUNTY. YET IN LOUDOUN COUNTY, FOUR, FOUR, 400,000 PLUS RESIDENTS HAVE ONLY RECEIVED A SAVINGS OF $1,500 PER YEAR. HOWEVER, THERE ARE ELECTRIC BILLS DUE THE WAY WE ALLOCATE, UH, THIS IN, UH, VIRGINIA ALLOWED DOMINION AND OTHERS TO RECOUP COSTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALLOW THEM TO FALL ON THE SAME RESIDENCE. IF THIS IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE, THAT WOULD CAN COUNTER ANY POTENTIAL SAVINGS IN TAXES. AS YOU KNOW, ALL THESE DATA CENTERS REQUIRE DIESEL GENERATORS. WE NOW HAVE OVER 8,900 DIESEL GENERATORS IN VIRGINIA. WHILE INDIVIDUAL ADVERSE EFFECTS OF EACH GENERATOR MAY BE SMALL, COLLECTIVELY WE ARE SEEING A RISE IN THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT. THE THOUSANDS OF DIESEL GENERATORS WITH BACKUP POWER DATA CENTERS POSE A THREAT TO THE HEALTH OF VIRGINIANS. EXPOSURE OF DIESEL EXHAUST PRIMARILY AFFECTS THE RESPIRATORY SYSTEM AND WORSE ASTHMA ALLERGIES, BRONCHITIS AND LUNG INFECTIONS. DIESEL EXHAUST MAY INCREASE THE RISK OF HEART PROBLEMS, PREMATURE DEATH AND LUNG CANCER, BURNING DIESEL EMITS GREENHOUSE GASES AND OTHER POLLUTANTS SUCH AS PARTICULATE MATTER, CARBON MONOXIDE, NITROUS OXIDE HYDROCARBONS AND VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS WHICH CONTRIBUTE TO THE, UH, REGIONAL GROUND LEVEL OZONE ACID, RAIN AND GLOBAL CHI CLIMATE CHANGE IS $1,500 ENOUGH TO RISK OUR HEALTH AND WELLBEING? I DON'T THINK SO. WHAT WOULD ANY OF US PAY FOR GOOD HEALTH AND LONGEVITY? WHAT WOULD WE GIVE UP OUR BEAUTIFUL ENVIRONMENT FOR A FEW DOLLARS IF WE ARE SAID TO BE GOOD STEWARDS OF KEEPING RIN UH, RURAL? IS THIS THE WAY? I DON'T THINK SO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BRECKENRIDGE. TERY, BRECK TERY 12 3 85 SOUTH READER CIRCLE IN READER'S BRANCH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I SUPPORT THE COUNTY'S GOAL TO INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE OF REVENUE DERIVED FROM BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. AND I SUPPORT THE PROPOSED TECHNOLOGY ZONE AND OVERLAY DISTRICT, BUT WITH QUALIFICATIONS RELATED TO DATA CENTERS AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS, SPECIFICALLY TO THEIR BEING LOCATED CONTIGUOUS TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOMES. GUGLIN RESIDENCE [03:15:01] HOMES MUST BE PROTECTED FROM THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS OF THESE KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS AS SEEN JUST UP I 95 IN LOUDOUN AND FAIRFAX COUNTIES AND CLOSER TO HOME IN HENRICO. THEREFORE, I ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS TO THE PROPOSED NEW ZONING ORDINANCE. SECTION 15 DASH 4 49 TOD DESIGN STANDARDS FOR DATA CENTERS INCREASE THE BUFFER BETWEEN HOMES AND DATA CENTERS TO A THOUSAND FEET. REDUCE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE HEIGHTS. 80 FEET REDUCE SOUND LEVELS TO 45 DECIBELS. DAYTIME, 40 DECIBELS AT NIGHT REQUIRE MODIFICATIONS TO CHILLER FANS TO MITIGATE LOW FREQUENCY SOUND WAVES THAT THEY EMIT SOUND WAVES THAT CAN TRAVEL FROM MILES AND THAT ARE NOT AFFECTED BY WALLS OR ENCLOSURES REQUIRE ALL MACHINERY INCLUSIVE OF GENERATORS AND HVAC EQUIPMENT TO BE ENCLOSED BY SOUND BUFFERING MATERIALS AND NO DISTRIBUTION CENTERS CONTIGUOUS TO NEIGHBORHOODS AT ALL. FINALLY, AMEND SECTION 15 DASH 2 62 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO CHANGE BY RIGHT DEVELOPMENT OF DATA AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS IN M1 ZONES CONTIGUOUS TO NEIGHBORHOODS TO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, REQUIRES PUBLIC NOTICE AND A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THIS BODY AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS STATE CODE ALLOWS YOU TO ADD BUYRIGHT USES AS THE ADMINISTRATION IS PROPOSING HERE TONIGHT. IT ALSO ALLOWS FOR THE OPPOSITE, IF THAT PROVES TO BE A BRIDGE TOO FAR AS AN ALTERNATIVE, I ASK THAT YOU RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT THEY ADOPT A POLICY WHEREBY WHENEVER A CORPORATION PROPOSES TO BUILD A DATA OR DISTRIBUTION CENTER ON AN M1 BUYRIGHT PROPERTY CONTIGUOUS TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD OR HOMES THAT THE COUNTY NOTIFY RESIDENTS IN ADVANCE AND THAT THE DEVELOPER BE REQUIRED TO MEET WITH THE AFFECTED NEIGHBORHOODS OR RESIDENTS TO PRESENT THE PLAN AND OBTAIN FEEDBACK BEFORE ANY PERMITS ARE APPROVED AND ISSUED. COMPANIES THAT BUILD DATA CENTERS AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS ARE AMONG THE WEALTHIEST CORPORATIONS ON THE PLANET. THESE AMENDMENTS WILL IMPACT THEIR NETWORK WORTH ABOUT THE SAME AS HAVING A CUP OF A COFFEE AT STARBUCKS. WOULD YOURS, AND LET ME EMPHASIZE, THESE ARE MODEST CHANGES. THEY'RE PROPOSED ONLY FOR DATA CENTERS AND OTHER SIMILAR NOISE GENERATING BUSINESSES LOOKING TO BUILD CONTIGUOUS TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND HOMES. TO SUM UP THE FEELINGS, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM, WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR THEM, AND WE DON'T WANNA SMELL THEIR GENERATOR EXHAUST. I URGE YOU TO INCORPORATE THESE CHANGES TO THE T-Z-T-O-D BEFORE SENDING THEM ONTO THE BOARD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT, PLEASE. MS. SUSAN WILLIS. REPEAT THAT. MAYBE SUSAN WILLIS. OH YEAH, RIGHT HERE. WANT ME AT THIS MIC? MY NAME IS SUSAN WILLIS. I LIVE AT 1 2 3 8 4 SOUTH READERS CIRCLE IN MANNEQUIN SABO. MY REMARKS ARE FOCUSED ON THE INCLUSION OF THE SMALL MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTORS OR SMRS. IN THE TOD PLAN, SECTION 15 DASH FOUR 50 PERMITTED USES A PARENT EIGHT. MY CAREER INCLUDES 10 YEARS WITH DOMINION ENERGY LEADING A TEAM RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LICENSING AND RECERTIFICATION OF NUCLEAR CONTROL ROOM OPERATORS AND SENIOR REACTOR OPERATORS. DURING THAT TIME, I BECAME VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPLEXITIES OF THE NUCLEAR INDUSTRY AND ITS STRINGENT REGULATORY STANDARDS TO SAFEGUARD THE PUBLIC. I'M CONCERNED THAT GOIN COUNTY IN ITS PROPOSED TOD PLAN IS CALLING OUT SMRS AS PERMISSIBLE. GIVEN THAT THIS IS A TECHNOLOGY ONLY IN ITS INFANCY AND ALLOWING FOR SMRS TO BE BUILT, THERE IS THE SUGGESTION, AND SOME MIGHT EVEN CALL IT SOFT PROMOTION OF SMRS AS A MEANS TO MEET THE MASSIVE ENERGY REQUIREMENTS OF DATA CENTERS. THIS SEEMS TO BE A MARKETING ATTEMPT TO RESOLVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS OF PROSPECTIVE DATA CENTER DEVELOPERS. THERE ARE CURRENTLY ONLY TWO SMRS IN EXISTENCE IN THE WORLD, AND I SAY EXISTENCE NOT NECESSARILY IN OPERATION, AND HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN MENTIONED THERE IN CHINA AND RUSSIA. WHILE LOTS OF STUDIES ARE UNDERWAY TO FURTHER CONSIDER THIS TECHNOLOGY, THE OVERWHELMING MESSAGE FROM THE ANALYST IN THE FIELD IS THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES THAT FIRST MUST BE ADDRESSED. CRITICAL AMONG THOSE CHALLENGES IS THE DISPOSAL OF NUCLEAR WASTE. MOST SPECIFICALLY, THE HIGHLY RADIOACTIVE SPENT FUEL. THIS HAS LONG BEEN AN UNRESOLVED ISSUE FOR THE BROADER NUCLEAR INDUSTRY. SMRS ARE ESPECIALLY CHALLENGED BY THE DISPOSAL ISSUE AS THEY GENERATE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE RADIOACTIVE WASTE [03:20:01] THAN CONVENTIONAL NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS. AND THE REASON THAT HAPPENS IS THEIR NEURON ACTIVITY IS SUCH THAT DUE TO THEIR SMALL CORES, THE NEURONS ARE RELEASED, UM, IN, IN EXCESS OF WHAT'S IN A TYPICAL, UH, CORE REACTOR IN A, IN A POWER PLANT LIKE NORTH ANNA. AND THAT RELEASE NEURONS GO INTO THE ADJACENT, UM, STEEL AND ACTIVATE IT, RADIATE IT SO IT BECOMES RADIOACTIVE SMRS ARE, UM, ALSO SOME OF THEM HAVE DESIGNS THAT PRODUCE WASTE STREAMS THAT HAVEN'T EVEN YET BEEN HANDLED. CURRENT DEPOSITORY METHODS LIKE THE DRY CASKING ARE DESIGNED FOR NUCLEAR WASTE FROM LARGE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS LIKE NORTH ANNA. THEY ARE NOT DESIGNED, UM, FOR THE WASTE FORMS THAT SMRS WILL GENERATE. IT CANNOT SIMPLY BE CARTED AWAY AND BECOME A PROBLEM TO SOLVE BY THE DATA CENTER DEVELOPER AND THE UTILITY INDUSTRY. AFTER ALL, AREN'T WE ALL STEWARDS IN THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE WELFARE OF OUR COMMUNITIES? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. WHO'S THE NEXT PLEASE? VLADIMIR LENO LEONOV. UH, NEXT PLEASE. IF NEXT SPEAKERS, IF BARRY MOORE COULD PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE WHITE MICROPHONE AND JOHN BERU TO THE BLUE. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS COME SIT IN THE FRONT ROW. CHIP POWELL. JEFFREY GRAVES, STELLA CLARY, ANDREW CASTELLO, IAN BEGLEY, ROB WILLIAMSON, VIRGINIA REED, AND LARRY LANE. HELLO. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. MY NAME IS BARRY MOORE, 97 30 KALEIDOSCOPE ROW IN MOSAIC. MY TOPIC, IT GOES BACK TO THE SLIDES WE SAW IN THE BEGINNING THE WORDS INCENTIVES AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THERE WAS A TIME AND A PLACE, BUT THE SIX SEVEN COUNTIES SURROUNDING US ARE EMPHASIZING ALWAYS ON INCENTIVES. SO MY PROPOSAL WOULD BE THIS. UM, I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT A, UH, PROGRAM MOVING FORWARD WITH NO CONCESSIONS. GOOSE'S LOCATION ALREADY ATTRACTS HIGH INCOME COMPANIES. THEY SHOULD PAY THE MARKET RATE AND COVER THE FULL COST OF THEIR PROJECTS. IT'S GONNA TAKE A DIFFERENT THINKING. IF THERE'S BONUSES PAID FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE FOR GROWING, IT'S COMING OUT OF OUR POCKET AND OUR RISK, IT'S TIME TO START HAVING EVERYBODY PONY UP TO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA MAKE. WE KEEP HEARING HOW MUCH MONEY THESE COMPANIES, THESE DATA CENTERS ARE MAKING. IT'S TIME FOR TAXPAYERS TO GET THEIR SHARE. UM, SO MY KEYBOARD BOARDS WOULD BE RESIDENTS MUCH BENEFIT AS MUCH AS THE DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, INVESTORS, OR RELOCATING COMPANIES PROFIT IMMEDIATELY WHEN THE BUILDINGS MOVE IN. HOMEOWNERS AND TAXPAYERS DESERVE EQUAL MEASURABLE BENEFITS. THAT MEANS FIRM PRICING AND NO GIVEAWAYS. ACCOUNTABILITY AND FUTURE DEALS NEGOTIATE FROM STRENGTH. DATA CENTERS ARE SIMILAR PROJECT AND SIMILAR PROJECTS NEED OUR LOCATION MORE THAN WE NEED CONCESSIONS GIVEN TO THEM TO ATTRACT THEM. REQUIRE DEVELOPERS TO PAY THE FULL COST OF ALL INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES, TIE ANY APPROVALS TO VERIFIABLE LOCAL EMPLOYMENT AND MEASURABLE ECONOMIC IMPACT. INCLUDE TANGIBLE COMMUNITY BENEFITS, PARKS, RECREATION, FACILITIES, OR OTHER PUBLIC ASSETS. SO GROWTH IS A WIN FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES ALIKE. SPECIFIC REQUESTS, NO CONCESSIONS OF ANY KIND THAT SHIFT COST TO TAXPAYERS. DON'T GIVE THEM A BREAK NOW BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA MAKE MONEY IN FIVE YEARS THAT MATH DOES NOT WORK. LOOK AT THE FEDERAL BUDGET. UM, I LIKE TO TO TO DEFER FOR 120 TO 180 DAYS THE TOD PROPOSAL AND ABOUT THE NOISE. AND, UH, PUT MORE THOUGHT INTO IT. I BELIEVE NOISE AND VIBRATION IMPACTS NEED TO BE STUDIED. MORE NEWLY HOMES, NEWLY BUILT HOMES IN MOSAIC HAPPEN TO BE PATIO HOMES. DO WE KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TO THE FOUNDATION IS WHO'S GONNA PAY THAT? OUR INSURANCE COMPANIES WILL NOT. SO IF THE COUNTY WILL WRITE US ALL CHECKS, IF MY FOUNDATION CRACKS BECAUSE OF ANYTHING THEY DO TO OUR GROUND, SO BE IT. BUT PUT IT IN WRITING. THE HELM IN OUR DEVELOPMENT ARE 700 TO 1.5 MILLION. THEY COULD BE VULNERABLE TO LONG-TERM VIBRATION, LIKE I JUST SAID. AND LOW FREQUENCY, UH HUM PREVENT UNCHECKED EXPANSION IN OTHER AREAS. SINGLE DATA CENTERS HAVE GROWN INTO MULTIPLE BUILDINGS, INCREASING NOISE AND VIBRATION FOR NEARBY RESIDENTS. PROTECT UTILITIES, ENSURE MOSAIC AND OTHER AFFECTED SUBDIVISIONS. DO NOT SEE HIGHER WATER OR ELECTRIC COSTS. AND AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA RUN OUTTA WATER. [03:25:01] WE CAN SAY WE'LL NOT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT PLEASE. JOHN BERU. HI, I'M KATHLEEN BIRO AND MY HUSBAND JOHN HAD TO LEAVE. SO, UM, WHOEVER'S UP NEXT AND I WILL WAIT MY TURN FOR LATER. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT. WHO'S NEXT PLEASE? CHIP POWELL. I'M ANOTHER CHIP POWELL. 9 2 0 1 SUR IN PLACE. MOSA. I'M JUST ANOTHER ONE HERE TO GRIPE. BASICALLY WHY THE RUSH? YOU KNOW, YOU GOT OTHER BUSINESSES COMING IN. YOU GOT AMAZON MOVING IN, YOU GOT ELI LILLY, YOU GOT THINGS HAPPENING. WHY THE RUSH ON THIS? A THING THAT KIND OF GS ME PARTICULARLY IS THE TOD IS BASICALLY BEING SOLD TO US AS SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DONE STRICTLY FOR OUR BENEFIT. AND IT'S NOT FOR OUR BENEFIT. THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT IT THAT'S FOR OUR BENEFIT. YOU KEEP TELLING US THAT DATA CENTERS COULD COME IN RIGHT NOW TODAY, PUT ONE IN RIGHT NEXT TO OUR HOUSE, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT TRUE. IT ABSOLUTELY COULD NOT HAPPEN. A MODERN DATA CENTER COULD NOT MOVE IN AS IN A AREA ZONED M1 LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. THERE'S NO WAY ANYBODY WOULD BELIEVE THAT WOULD PASS. SO THE TOD ELIMINATES THAT. THE TOD REZONES EVERYTHING FOR YOU. SO YOU CAN BRING A MODERN DATA CENTER IN. WE ALSO GOT PROTECTIONS THAT A BUILDING CAN'T BE OVER 60 FEET RIGHT NOW. THE TOD TAKES CARE OF THAT FOR YOU TOO. NOW THEY CAN GO 120 FEET, NO HEARINGS, NO NOTHING. WE GOT FARM LAND BEHIND US. DON'T HAVE TO GET THAT REZONED ANYMORE. NO PUBLIC DISCUSSIONS. IT SEEMS TO ME THE REAL PURPOSE OF THE TOD IS TO ELIMINATE ALL PUBLIC DISCUSSION, TO NOT ALLOW THE PEOPLE TO HAVE ANY INPUT IN WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THEM. YOU MAKE A STATEMENT OF WE'RE GLAD EVERYBODY CAME HERE. IT SHOWS YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMING OUT, YOU'RE SHOWING YOU'RE ACTIVE, YOU'RE INTERESTED, BUT THE TOD IS GONNA ELIMINATE EVERYTHING. NO MORE DISCUSSION ON ANYTHING. AND I BELIEVE THE THE REAL REASON FOR THE RUSH IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T STAND THE, THE LIGHT OF DAY. YOU KNOW, THE FIRST DATA CENTER THAT COMES IN WILL NOT LIVE UP TO EVERYTHING THAT'S PROMISED AND WILL PROBABLY HAVE ALL KINDS OF IMPACTS THAT DON'T WORK FOR US. AND SO WHEN THE NEXT ONE TRIES TO COME IN, WE HAVE THAT ONE TO PRESENT TO YOU AND SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, WAIT A MINUTE. YOU'RE GONNA PUT ANOTHER ONE IN. THIS ONE DIDN'T WORK. SO BUY RIGHTS. HEY, IT COMES IN, WE'LL TRY TO FIGURE IT OUT, WORK IT OUT. WE GOT ALL KINDS OF NOISE ISSUES. THEY'RE GONNA BE AS NOISY AS YOU'LL LET THEM BE BECAUSE THE MORE SERVERS THEY CAN CRAM IN THAT THING, THE MORE MONEY THEY MAKE AND THE MORE NOISE IT MAKES. SO WHEN THE FIRST ONE COMES IN AND THEY'RE AT THE LIMIT, WHICH WE KNOW THEY'LL BE, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE NEXT ONE COMES IN? DOES THAT MEAN NO MORE CAN COME IN BECAUSE YOU KNOW THEY'RE GONNA MAKE NOISE. IT'S GONNA PUSH US OVER THE LIMIT. WHAT HAPPENS THEN? THESE COMPANIES, THEY'RE THE RICHEST COMPANIES IN THE WORLD. THEY'RE PLANNING ON PAYING FINES. THAT'S THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. YOU WANT TO TAKE 'EM TO COURT? THEY GOT THE BEST LAWYERS IN THE COUNTRY. THAT DOESN'T SCARE 'EM. IT'S LIKE WE'RE GONNA SUFFER. THE NOISE IS GONNA BE THERE. THANK YOU SIR. WHO'S NEXT PLEASE? JEFFREY GRAVES. HI, I AM JEFF GRAVES, UH, 1641 CENTERVILLE PARK LANE IN MANNEQUIN SABBATH. UH, I TOO CAME WITH A LIST OF THINGS AND EVERYBODY'S COVERED THINGS. I EVEN HAD ONE POINT AND MR. POWELL JUST TOOK THAT ONE FROM ME. BUT I'LL TAKE A MINUTE JUST TO SAY THAT I DO ADMIRE AND, UH, RESPECT EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE. AND I'M GLAD I DON'T HAVE YOUR JOB. BUT IF YOU WANT TO, IF I CAN READ THE ROOM, PEOPLE SOUND ANGRY, BUT WE'RE SCARED. AND THAT'S EVEN WORSE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE HECK THIS MEANS. WHAT DOES IT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WE DON'T KNOW. BUT ALL WE KNOW IS WE'RE OPENING SOME DOORS TO LET OTHER PEOPLE THINGS COME IN. AND UNTIL YOU ADDRESS THAT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF UNHAPPY CAMPERS. UH, IF YOU CAN SIT DOWN AND SAY, THIS JUST DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT, THEN YOU GOTTA SAY NO. UH, THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT. AND THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. STELLA [03:30:01] CLARY. NEXT PLEASE. ANDREW CASTELLANO CLOSE, CLOSE, UM, SOON TO BE LIVING AT ONE ANDREW CASTELLANO, SOON TO BE LIVING AT 1322 SPARROW SONG DRIVE. UM, MY WIFE JENNIFER, AND I ARE GONNA BE RESIDENTS OF SONGBIRD THAT'S BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW ON H ROAD. THIS IS MY FIRST PLANNING MEETING ON THIS TOPIC. NOTICES HAVE BEEN SENT TO MAIN STREET HOMES WHO DECIDED NOT TO FORWARD THEM ON TO THE 50 OR SO FOLKS LIKE US WHO HAVE SIGNED CONTRACTS AND MADE DEPOSITS. I'M A FINANCIAL ADVISOR FOR THE PAST 27 YEARS AT TRUIST AND SHORT PUMP. IT WAS A CLIENT LAST WEEK WHO MAY BE AWARE OF THESE CHANGES, UM, UNTIL OUR HOUSE IS DONE. WE CURRENTLY LIVE AT PTY TRACT IN NORTHGATE ROAD. WE ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT, HAVING LIVED THERE IN THAT AREA FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS. WE WERE FINALLY IN A SITUATION, THE KIDS OUT OF THE HOUSE TO MAKE A MOVE TO GLAND AND, AND WE WERE ATTRACTED TO THE HOCKET ROAD CORRIDOR FOR THE RESIDENTIAL LOOK AND FEEL. WE DID NOT LIKE THE ASTON ROAD CORRIDOR. IT WAS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE, KIND OF LIKE LABURNUM AVENUE IN EASTERN HENRICO. I DID MY RESEARCH THROUGH GIS ON THE LAND SURROUNDING SONGBIRD, PLAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE OWNERSHIP AND ZONING NEXT TO SONGBIRD. THERE ARE 87 ACRES OWNED BY GLAND COUNTY. THE COUNTY PLANNER, AFTER I CALLED THEM, TOLD ME THAT THAT LAND HAD BEEN OWNED SINCE 1999 AND IT WAS KNOWN AS THE FUTURE EASTERN GLAND SCHOOL SITE. IT IS NOW 2025 AND THERE IS NOTHING THERE WITH NO CURRENT PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT. I LOOKED AT THE WEST CREEK ZONING AND LAND OWNERSHIP. THE CURRENT BUILDING HEIGHTS HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR 30 YEARS AND THE DATA CENTER RESTRICTIONS FOR 11 YEARS. DEVELOPERS ALSO INVESTED IN THE WEST CREEK KNOWING THOSE SAME ZONING RESTRICTIONS. NOW YOU WANNA CHANGE THE RULES TO ALLOW BUILDINGS UP TO 120 FEET IN HEIGHT AND ADDING HUNDREDS OF NEW ACRES TO THE WEST CREEK ZONE WITH A TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY. DO YOU KNOW THE AMOUNT OF STRESS AND ANXIETY YOU'RE CREATING FOR YOUR CONSTITUENTS? HOCK ROAD RESIDENTS DO NOT WANNA BE THE NEXT LABURNUM AVENUE. DANA CENTERS NEED UNINTERRUPTED POWER. THEY CAN'T BE OFFLINE FOR A SECOND. A MEDIUM-SIZED DATA CENTER NOW NEEDS ABOUT A HUNDRED INDIVIDUAL DIESEL GENERATORS FOR BACKUP POWER. EACH GENERATOR CONSUMES 175 GALLONS OF DIESEL PER HOUR. THAT'S 18,000 GALLONS OF DIESEL PER HOUR FOR A HUNDRED GENERATORS. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN BEHIND A SINGLE DIESEL TRUCK BLOWING BLACK SMOKE? WHAT IF THE POWER IS OFF FOR A DAY OR TWO OR LONGER? HOW NOISY WILL ALL THOSE GENERATORS BE FOR A SINGLE DATA CENTER? WHERE DO YOU THINK ALL THAT SMOG WILL GO? HOW WILL THE LARGE, UM, WHERE WILL THE DIESEL BE STORED AT? HOW LARGE WOULD THOSE TANKS BE? HOW MANY TRUCKS WILL NEED BE NEEDED TO REFILL THOSE TANKS? ORACLE, MICROSOFT, GOOGLE, AMAZON, APPLE HAVE COMMITTED TO SPEND A TRILLION DOLLARS IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS FOR DATA CENTERS. A TRILLION DOLLARS. THEY HAVE THE CASH NOW AND WE'LL MOVE QUICKLY. YOU'RE WELCOMING THEM TO GLIN TOUTING TO US HOW THIS WILL BE AN ECONOMIC BOOM FOR THE COUNTY WITH HIGH PAYING PERMANENT JOBS AND CONSTRUCTION JOBS. THERE IS NO CURRENT CAPACITY FOR GOOCHLAND TO BENEFIT FROM THIS BUILD OUT. FAMILIES DON'T WANT TO DRIVE 30 MINUTES TO TAKE THEIR KIDS TO SCHOOL. THAT'S WHY THERE IS A LOT OF EMPTY NESTERS LIKE US IN GOOCHLAND AND EASTERN PARK. UM, THANK YOU SIR. APPRECIATE IT. ESPECIALLY CONSTRUCTION JOBS. PEOPLE WON'T BE ABLE TO. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. NEXT, PLEASE. IAN BEGLEY. HELLO, I'M IAN BEGLEY. I LIVE IN UH, RE READER'S BRANCH. 1, 2 3 2 2 BEACH HALL CIRCLE. I'LL BE LOOKING AT THE DATA CENTERS OR WHATEVER WE GET SOON. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. CAN ANY OF YOU GIVE ME 100 WITH 100% CERTAINTY THAT IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT MY HEALTH, MY WELLBEING, OR MY VALUE OF MY PROPERTY? I'LL TAKE YOUR NO AS A NO. SO I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK. THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU'VE DONE ON THE TOD, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE STRONGER. WE NEED TO DEFER FOR ANOTHER 60 DAYS, I THINK. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT PLEASE. ROB WILLIAMSON. GOOD EVENING. I'M ROB WILLIAMSON. 2 2 6 2 WHEATLAND DRIVE, MANNEQUIN SABBATH. ELI LILLY. COMING TO GOSLIN IS A WIN AS A TAXPAYER. THANK YOU. THE TOD HAS A LOT OF GOOD THINGS, BUT I CAN NO LONGER SUPPORT THE TOD ORDINANCE CHANGES IN ITS CURRENT FORM. DON'T BE CONFUSED BY OVERLAY. IT'S NOT A TRUE OVERLAY. IT'S A HYBRID REZONING PROCESS. APPROVAL IMMEDIATELY CHANGES EXISTING A TWO M ONES. IF THE APPLICANT MEETS THE TOD REQUIREMENTS, THERE'S NO SPECIAL MEETINGS, NO COM [03:35:01] CITIZEN COMMENT PERIODS. IT'S A DONE DEAL. THE TOD IN ITS CURRENT FORM HAS GAPS, OVERSIGHTS, UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES, AND HAS NOT INCORPORATED DATA CENTER LESSONS LEARNED FROM OTHER COUNTIES. THEREFORE, IT IS UNWISE. THE ROOM SHOULD BE A BAROMETER ON THE MAGNITUDE OF THOSE GAPS AND CONSEQUENCES. SINCE I ONLY HAVE THREE MINUTES, I'M ONLY GONNA PICK ONE ISSUE 'CAUSE THERE ARE MANY 120 FEET BY RIGHT IS UNWISE AND UNNECESSARY. IT'S ALSO A BEACON FOR 119 FOOT BED BUSINESSES. OUR CURRENT HEIGHT LIMIT GRANTING ADDITIONAL, UH, FEET ABOVE 80 BY CUP IS A WISE METHOD. CASE IN POINT, EAI LILLY HAS BUILT 125 FOOT TALL FACILITY IN LEBANON, INDIANA WITH A HEIGHT LIMIT IS ONLY 50 FEET. THEY REQUESTED A WAIVER AND IT WAS GRANTED JUST LIKE OUR CUT PROCESS AFFORDS. THEY'RE NOT AFRAID OF THE PROCESS. BEWARE OF THOSE WHO ARE. MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE'RE BATTLING A DATA CENTER REZONING TONIGHT. WOW. NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE AN APPLICANT WITH A REZONING, WITH FACTS, FIGURES, ACTUAL IMPACTS AND LOCATIONS. BUT BECAUSE IF 120 FOOT BY RIGHT IS APPROVED FOR EVERYTHING IN THE TOD HENCE FORTH AND FOREVERMORE AND IT'S UNDER 120 FEET, THE PEOPLE AFFECTED WILL HAVE NO VOICE. AND THAT IS JUST PLAIN WRONG. WHEN BEING STRIPPED AWAY, WHAT ELSE IS BEING STRIPPED AWAY? IS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ABILITY TO MANAGE PROJECTS OVER 80 FEET. YOU HAVE A FIDUCIARY OBLIGATION TO ALLOW GOOD TALL PROJECTS AND PREVENT CITIZENS FROM HAVING THE EXPERIENCE, BAD, BIG, BAD ONES. IT ALSO STRIPS AWAY THE ABILITY OF FUTURE BOARDS WILLING TO DO SO TO MANAGE HEIGHTS. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO TIE THE HANDS OF YOUR SUCCESSORS? I'M WILLING. I'M WILLING TO WAGER. AND MOST EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT EXPECTS COUNTY LEADERSHIP AND ELECTED OFFICIALS TO MANAGE EXCESSIVE BUILDING HEIGHTS RATHER THAN AUTOMATICALLY GIVING IT AWAY FOR EXPEDIENCY AND CONVENIENCE. PLEASE DEFER THIS SO WE CAN WORK TOGETHER TO FILL THE GAPS AND LIMIT THE CONSEQUENCES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WHO'S THE NEXT PLEASE? VIRGINIA REED. MY NAME IS VIRGINIA REED. UNTIL THIS WEEK MY LEGAL ADDRESS WAS IN FAIRFAX COUNTY, VIRGINIA, WHERE MY WIFE AND I RESIDE FOR 39 YEARS UNTIL WE SOLD OUR HOUSE. YESTERDAY IN JANUARY OF 2025, WE VISITED MOSAIC WEST END AND FELL IN LOVE WITH WHAT WAS TO BE OUR RETIREMENT HOME. WE SELECTED LOT 13 SIX AT THE END OF BELLINI CRESCENT. ADJACENT TO THAT BEAUTIFUL 35 FOOT WIDE TREE BUFFER. WE SIGNED A CONTRACT TO BUILD ON MARCH 25 ON A VISIT TO THE HOME SITE IN EARLY APRIL. THERE WAS A SIGN AT OUR, A SIGN HAD BEEN PLACED AT THE END OF BELLINI CRESCENT, WHICH READ THIS ROAD IS TO BE EXTENDED WITH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT FOR MORE INFORMATION. CONTACT THE GLAND COUNTY PLANNING OFFICE AND PROVIDED A PHONE NUMBER. I CALLED THAT NUMBER THE NEXT DAY I LEFT A MESSAGE 'CAUSE NOBODY PICKED UP. I WAS LUCKY. AND I RECEIVED A CALL BACK ON MONDAY, APRIL 14TH AND WAS INFORMED THAT THE PLANNING OFFICE HAD NO ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AT THAT TIME IN JULY, THE FIRST TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT MAP WAS PRODUCED. OUR MOSAIC WEST END COMMUNITY WAS NOT SHOWN AS DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THE OVERLAY AREA. WE STILL HAD FARMLAND ALL AROUND US. NOW THE REVISED VERSION TWO MAP RELEASED DURING THE SEPTEMBER 8TH COMMUNITY MEETING IS SHOWING MOSAIC WEST END AS DIRECTLY IMPACTED AND IN PARTICULAR OUR FUTURE HOME AT 9 1 7 4 BELLINI CRESCENT, WHICH NOW IS A BUDDING AND SURROUNDED BY TOD. OUR DREAM OF A RETIREMENT HOME SURROUNDED BY GREEN SPACE. TREES AND WILDLIFE IS NOW SITUATED ON A FUTURE ACCESS ROAD AND ADJACENT TO THE NOW PROPOSED. TODD, THE CHANGE OF THE PROPOSED MAP IN CP 20 25 2 HAS RUINED OUR DREAM AS HAVE CHANGES PROPOSED IN SECTION 15 500 DEFINITIONS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER I THEREFORE URGE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO REJECT THESE AMENDMENTS. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RELATED TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT AND ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORNAMENT OR ORDINANCE SPECIFIC TO DEFINITIONS TO INCLUDE SMALL MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTOR FACILITY, NATURAL GAS PEAKING PLANT AND UTILITY GENERATING STATION. AND THAT GLAND COUNTY PLANNING COMMISSION [03:40:01] DENY APPROVAL AND NOT RECOMMEND THESE CHANGES TO THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT PLEASE, LARRY LANE. AND WE'LL CALL SEVERAL MORE TO THE FRONT SHERRY LANE TO THE WHITE MICROPHONE. MARGARET LEVITT. TO THE BLUE MICROPHONE AND THE REMAINING NAMES, PLEASE HAVE A SEAT IN THE FRONT. KATE BENNETT, NICHOLAS CLEM, DENNIS MONY, KATHLEEN BERU, DIANE THOMPSON, NATHAN CRI, ROLAND PEYTON, MARY KAY BEASLEY, AND JOHN PARKER. SO MY NAME IS MARGARET LEVITT, 70 36 BEN HALL CIRCLE AND I LIVE IN PARKSIDE VILLAGE. UM, AND MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT PRETTY MUCH SINCE WE GOT HERE 10 YEARS AGO. WE'RE GROWING SO WEARY OF ONE BAD DECISION AFTER ANOTHER. UM, MY SON SAID SOMETHING THAT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU, MOM. THIS TYPE OF INVASIVE DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT BELONG IN ANYONE'S BACKYARD. WE'VE MADE A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS, ALTHOUGH I CHERISH THE RELATIONSHIPS, I'M SORRY. WE WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER WITH THIS KIND OF INVASIVE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH GOES AGAINST YOUR OWN ZONING DEFINITIONS. TRULY ALL OF THESE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES WERE BROUGHT INTO GLAND TO CORRECT A MISTAKE THAT YOU MADE WITH MOTOROLA NOT PUTTING GUARDRAILS IN. SO YOU TOOK OUT ALL THIS, THIS BOND FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE, AND YOU HAD NO WAY TO PAY FOR IT. JOHN BOESKY TOLD ME. SO AT THE FIRST TOWN HALL MEETING I EVER ATTENDED IN GLAND IN NOVEMBER OF 2016, HE TOLD ME WHY OUR COMMUNITIES WERE ALLOWED TO BE 55 AND OLDER SO WE WOULDN'T BURDEN YOUR SCHOOLS. WE UNDERSTAND NOW IT'S TO REACH IT TO OUR POCKETS FOR THE TAX. MONEY IS A DISGRACE. IT'S ASTOUNDING THAT YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE THE EXPERIENCES OF THOSE IN OTHER SURROUNDING COUNTIES. I MEAN, IT'S LIKE AN OSTRICH WITH YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND. WE, WE KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. IT'S, IT'S NOT AN UNKNOWN. WE KNOW YOU ALL GOT A VIDEO THAT SHOULD BE SHOCKING TO YOU AND YET YOU ARE GONNA ROLL OUT THE RED CARPET, THE WELCOME MAT FOR THESE COMPANIES. THEY'RE GONNA COME ONE RIGHT AFTER ANOTHER. I ATTENDED A COMMUNITY MEETING WHERE A SUPERVISOR STOOD UP AND SAID, FOLKS, CALM DOWN. WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT ONE DATA CENTER. WOW. A GRAVE MISREPRESENTATION OF WHAT THE TOD WOULD ALLOW. IT WOULD BE A BUY RIGHT OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE ENTITIES TO BUILD BABY BUILD. SO I'M GOING TO GO OUT ON A LIMB HERE AND SAY, I'M SURE MANY OF YOU DO NOT LIVE WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THIS, NOR WOULD YOU CHOOSE TO. ALL OF US. WE DID NOT CHOOSE THIS. SO I'M IN PARKSIDE VILLAGE. WHAT'S BEEN INFLICTED ON MY COMMUNITY IS JUST SUCH, SO DISRESPECTFUL. SO IF YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO LIVE THERE, WHY WOULD YOU INFLICT THIS ON YOUR CITIZENS? IT'S NOT SMART, IT'S NOT RESPONSIBLE, IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. SO ALL THE TIME AND ENERGY TO FORMULATE THIS TOD UM, PERHAPS STAFF LEADERS SHOULD FOCUS ON CHANGING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO PROTECT RESIDENTS. APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT, PLEASE. KATE. KATE BENNETT. HELLO, MY NAME IS KATE BENNETT. I LIVE AT 6 0 1 6 COLLIN STONE DRIVE IN GLEN ALLEN. UM, SO I LIVE ABOUT A MILE FROM THE HENRICO COUNTY LINE, UM, WITH MY HUSBAND AND TWO SMALL DAUGHTERS. UM, AND I ADMIT, UH, THE NURSE DOCTORATE DOCTORAL STUDENT AFTER SHE SPOKE. I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY BE DISCUSSING THIS AT ALL. , UM, AS A MOTHER AND, UH, KNOWING THAT THERE'S SO MANY SMALL CHILDREN AT RISK HERE. UM, WE MOVED HERE FROM NEW YORK ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UM, IN SEARCH OF GREENERY COMMUNITY AND GOOD SCHOOLS AND WE'RE SO THRILLED TO HAVE FOUND THAT HERE. UM, BUT THIS SMALL MODULAR REACTOR PROPOSAL IS VERY CONCERNING FOR TWO REASONS. UM, THE FIRST REASON IS WHAT WE DO KNOW, RIGHT? [03:45:01] WHICH DIRECTLY CONFLICTS WITH THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE MANDATE OF ZONING UNDER VIRGINIA CODE 15.2 DASH 2 2 8 3 PER THE EUCLID VERSUS AMBER REALTY CASE. OTHERS HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THE TWO TO 30 TIMES RADIOACTIVE WASTE OF OLDER NUCLEAR DESIGNS FOR WHICH WE HAVE NO LONG-TERM DISPOSAL SITE. WE'VE ALSO SPOKEN ABOUT THE SMR GENERATOR TESTING FOR UP TO TWO HOURS DAILY. I GENUINELY THINK THE NEXT MEETING SHOULD JUST BE THAT DECIBEL FOR TWO HOURS AND SEE HOW PEOPLE VOTE. UM, OUR HOMES WILL BE WELL WITHIN THE 10 MILE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS ZONE OR EPZ. ARGUABLY APPROVAL OF THIS PROPOSAL IS AKIN TO DIMI, DIMI DIMI, SORRY, DIMINUTION OF VALUE IN THAT YOU ARE REDUCING OUR PROPERTY VALUES WITHOUT JUST COMPENSATION. FURTHERMORE, THE PROPOSED 1500 SETBACK FOR THE SMR FROM RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY PROPERTY IS INADEQUATE TO SHIELD HOMES FROM THE VISUAL NOISE AND VIBRATION ACCESS OF 120 FOOT INDUSTRIAL STRUCTURES. EVEN WORSE, THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS EXCEPTIONS AT THE PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT STAGE WEAKENING THESE PROTECTIONS FURTHER AND UNDERMINING HOMEOWNER WELFARE AND CONFIDENCE AND PROPERTY LEVELS. MANY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROTECTION PROVISIONS SUCH AS BUILDING HEIGHT, NOISE DESIGN AND ENERGY STORAGE WOULD BE WAIVABLE BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, CREATING UNCERTAINTY AND RISK OF FUTURE EXPANSIONS THAT WORSEN IMPACTS. THAT'S THE FIRST REASON I'M WORRIED . THE SECOND REASON I'M WORRIED IS WHAT WE DO NOT KNOW AS OTHERS. MANY OTHERS HAVE SAID THERE ARE NO CURRENTLY OPERATIONAL SMRS IN THE UNITED STATES, MAKING IT ACTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GAUGE THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTHCARE OR REAL ESTATE VALUE IMPACT. MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS PROPOSAL WITHOUT DATA ON THOSE IMPACTS IS EXTREMELY NEGLIGENT AND NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE LOCALITY'S DUTY TO PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY. IT SHOULD BE CLEAR AT THIS POINT FROM BOTH MY, MY TALK AS WELL AS OTHERS THAT THIS DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS GLAND'S 2025 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. AND I URGE YOU TO DELAY APPROVAL UNTIL THE IMPACT CAN BE MEASURED IN REAL TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. PLEASE. NEXT, NICHOLAS CLEM. NEXT. NEXT PLEASE. DENNIS UE. KATHLEEN BERU. DEEP BREATH. WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO 11, WELL 40 MINUTES. MY NAME IS KATHLEEN BIRO. IT'S LIKE BY AND ROW YOUR BOAT. I LIVE AT 1 2 4 8 1 NORTH CROSSING DRIVE IN MANNEQUIN SABBATH. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING A DEAL WITH ELI LILLY TO BRING THEM IN AS A MANUFACTURING FACILITY IN WEST CREEK. THIS IS WONDERFUL. LILY WILL BE A GREAT NEIGHBOR. THIS IS EXACTLY THE TYPE OF BUSINESS THAT THE EDA AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD CONTINUE TO TRY TO ATTRACT TO GLAND COUNTY. WHEN COMPARING THE LILLY OPPORTUNITY TO DATA CENTERS, WHAT REALLY STANDS OUT TO ME IS THAT THE TAX DOLLARS WILL BEGIN TO FLOW FROM THE LILLY SITE WITHIN FIVE YEARS VERSUS AN INDETERMINATE AMOUNT OF TIME. IT WILL TAKE FOR TAX REVENUE FROM A DATA CENTER TO COME TO FRUITION BECAUSE WEST CREEK IS NOT SHOVEL READY WHEN IT COMES TO MEETING THE MASSIVE POWER DEMANDS OF A DATA CENTER OR MORE SISTER INDUSTRIES AND RESEARCH CENTERS ARE MUCH, MUCH MORE LIKELY TO FOLLOW LILLY'S LEAD AND COME TO GLAND COUNTY. WHILE DATA CENTERS ONLY BEGET MORE DATA CENTERS. THINKING TO THE FUTURE AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE IS OVER, DATA CENTERS ONLY BRING A HANDFUL OF EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES TO PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY. NOT HUNDREDS OF JOBS THAT ARE CREATED WITH A MANUFACTURING FACILITY. PLEASE, PLEASE THOUGHTFULLY CONSIDER THAT WHILE UCHIN COUNTY IS SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF TIME AND MONEY ON PROMOTIONAL EFFORTS TO MAKE A TOD AND A TZ MORE AMENABLE TO ATTRACT DATA CENTERS, YOU MIGHT MISS OUT ON OTHER MORE DESIRABLE BUSINESSES AND OPPORTUNITIES WHICH CAN OFFER UP THE TAX DOLLARS THE COUNTY IS LOOKING FOR IN A MUCH MORE PREDICTABLE TIMEFRAME AND THAT EVERYONE WOULD BE HAPPIER WITH. PLEASE BUILD ON YOUR SUCCESS WITH LILLY [03:50:02] AND CONSIDER TO REMOVE DATA CENTERS FROM A LIST OF APPROVED TECHNOLOGIES IN A TOD PROBLEM SOLVED. YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND THE POWER TO DO IT. REMOVE DATA CENTERS FROM YOUR LIST OF APPROVED FACILITIES OR INDUSTRIES ON THE TOD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. NEXT, PLEASE DI DIANE THOMPSON. NEXT PLEASE. NATHAN CRISP. ROLAND PAYTON. MARY KAY BEASLEY. JOHN PARKER. YEP. MY NAME IS MARY KAY BEASLEY. I LIVE AT 1 3 0 0 4 FRESCO COURT IN MOSAIC. I MOVED HERE ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO FROM THE VERY GREEN AREA KNOWN AS BONAIR. I MOVED SO THAT I COULD BE CLOSER TO MY CHILDREN, ADULT CHILDREN AND BECAUSE I REALLY LIKED THIS AREA, I WILL TELL YOU I SO APPRECIATE THE DOCTORAL CANDIDATE WHO SPOKE ABOUT CHILDREN BEING AFFECTED BY NUCLEAR POWER. MY SON, HE IS NOW 41. HE IS A CHILDHOOD CANCER SURVIVOR. THAT YEAR THAT HE WAS TREATED, THERE WERE 11 OTHER KIDS, THEY ALL DIED. FOR SOME REASON MY SON WAS SPARED AND HE IS A TEACHER NOW IN PALATAN COUNTY. I DID WOULD NOT WANT ANY PARENT TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH WHAT MY HUSBAND AND I DID RAISING OUR SON WITH THE SPECTER OF CANCER. IT'S NOT SOMETHING ANYONE SHOULD DO. THAT IS WHY I AM SO AGAINST THE UNKNOWNS OF THE NUCLEAR REACTOR. I ALSO DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY IT MOVED SO FAST. ARNE HAS LEFT THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW. BUT I WILL TELL YOU MOSAIC WASN'T EVEN NOTIFIED OF THET OD WE UNTIL SOMEBODY FROM READER'S BRANCH CAME AND GAVE HIM SIGNS. OH YEAH, WE DON'T GET MAIL VERY OFTEN IN MOSAIC. IT KEEPS GETTING LOST BY THE POST OFFICE. BUT THAT'S NOT YOUR FAULT. THAT'S MINE. 'CAUSE I CHOSE TO MOVE HERE. WHATEVER. THERE IS NO RUSH TO DO THIS. YOU NEED TO LEARN FROM OTHERS, YOU NEED TO GO TO LOUDOUN COUNTY AND YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS. BY THE WAY, I'M ALMOST 73 AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER PARTICIPATED IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT AND I'M DOING SO BECAUSE I NEED YOU TO HEAR US. THANK YOU JOHN PARKER. NOW I SEE WHY THEY WERE HAVING TROUBLE SEEING Y'ALL THAT TV. ANYWAY, UM, MY NAME'S JOHN PARKER. I LIVE AT 4 0 3 HICKORY COURT AND THAT IS IN MANNEQUIN. UM, THE TOD IS ENLARGING WEST CREEK. THAT'S SOMETHING NEW THAT, I MEAN, WEST CREEK WAS INTENDED FOR LIGHT INDU, LIGHT COMMERCIAL OFFICE PARK ZONE M UM, WEST CREEK'S NOT EVEN FULLY DEVELOPED. WHY ARE WE EXPANDING IT? THOSE AREAS, I BELIEVE I DON'T HAVE THE MAP UP THERE, BUT WEREN'T THEY AGRICULTURAL BEFORE THE TOD? SO YOU'RE EXPANDING WEST CREEK AND LETTING IN THESE NEW USES AND OH, THEY WENT FROM AGRICULTURAL TO NOW THEY CAN PUT UP 120 FOOT BUILDING. THAT'S NOT EVEN WHAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE MICRO NUCLEAR, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GETTING OUTTA HAND, UM, AS PREVIOUS. ALRIGHT, THE, ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE DOD AS PREVIOUSLY STATED. THERE ARE NO SM ANDRS IN SERVICE IN THE US. THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, BUT WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED IS AT PRESENT AND PAST NUCLEAR REACTOR SITES. ONE AT, UM, OH, SHOULD HAVE REVISED MY NOTES ANYWAY AT PAST NUCLEAR SITES. BUT THESE ARE SMALL REACTORS, BUT THEY ARE REACTORS. THEY NEED TO BE IN HANDS OF TRAINED INDIVIDUALS LIKE NORTH ANNA. UM, AND , WE WON'T SAY THREE MILE ISLAND, BUT I MEAN, BUT THERE ARE PLACES EVEN IN THE HANDS OF TRAINED PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN HAVE A PROBLEM. AND THIS IS NOT A SMALL PROBLEM. YOU NEED A 10 MILE EXCLUSION ZONE. WE'RE 14 MILES FROM THAT RIGHT NOW. THAT MEANS JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY EAST OF HERE WOULD HAVE TO BE EVACUATED. THE 10 MILE LINE SEEMS TO HIT ABOUT STATE FARM IS WHERE I CALCULATED IT ONLINE. UM, AND WE'RE 20 SOME MILES FROM NORTH ANNA, BUT I TRUST THAT MORE THAN I TRUST SOMETHING THAT COMES IN ON THE BACK OF THE TRUCK AND FRED'S GONNA PLUG IT IN AND HOPE IT WORKS. THAT JUST DIDN'T, RIGHT? UM, 50 MILES EXCLUSION AROUND THESE THINGS. YOU HAVE TO NOT HARVEST ANY MORE [03:55:01] CROPS. THAT WIPES OUT JUST ABOUT THE COUNTY, DOESN'T IT? WHERE'S 50 MILES FROM WHERE THIS IS? I THINK YOU PRETTY WELL WIPED OUT ALL OF OUR COUNTY A GOOD PART OF HENRICO AND G***H, LINDA, LOUISA. JUST A THOUGHT. UM, NOW THE ODDS I AGREE ARE SMALL, BUT DO WE REALLY WANT TO BE ON THE BLEEDING EDGE OF THAT TECHNOLOGY? LET'S WAIT UNTIL THERE'S SOME HISTORY. PUTTING IT AT THE NUCLEAR PLANTS MAKES SENSE. PUT TRAINED OPERATORS RUNNING IT. THAT MAKES SENSE. BUT DON'T STICK IT NEXT TO I 64 IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. I MEAN THAT'S, OR NEAR A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT'S JUST NOT SMART. AND OH, YEAH, SINCE I GOT A COUPLE SECONDS LEFT, WE'VE SEEN HOW THE RULES CAN BE CHANGED. THERE WAS A CERTAIN SETBACK IN WEST CREEK THAT WAS REVISED AGAINST A LOT OF PROTEST AND NOW THEY HAVE A MUCH SMALLER SETBACK FOR THAT SHOPPING CENTER AT PARA AT PATTERSON AND 2 88. SO THESE RULES ARE NOT SET IN CONCRETE. THEY'RE BARELY SET IN, IN PENCIL. THANK YOU, STEVE. NEXT PLEASE. STEVE DOWDY. NEXT PLEASE. BEN SLOAN. MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, BEN SLOAN. I RESIDE AT 2 0 5 2 MAINES ROAD, MAINES, VIRGINIA. UM, 2 3 1 0 2. I RISE IN SUPPORT OF THE TOD ORDINANCE ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT PRINCIPLES, ONE OF WHICH IS, UM, I'LL SUGGEST THERE'S BEEN A COMPLETE MISCHARACTERIZATION OF NUCLEAR POWER AND NUCLEAR POWER IN THE UNITED STATES AND THE HEALTH EFFECTS OF IT. I AM A DEGREED NUCLEAR ENGINEER. I'M ALSO ELECTRICAL ENGINEER. I'M ALSO A PREVIOUSLY LICENSED SENIOR REACTOR OPERATOR. 41, 42 IS MY NUMBER. AND UM, I WAS ALSO AT THREE MILE ISLAND AFTER THE ACCIDENT AND I'M ONLY 17 YEARS OLD. BUT THE, UM, THING IS MR. CHAIRMAN, THAT, UH, NUCLEAR POWER HAS BEEN MISCHARACTERIZED QUITE OFTEN IN THE PRESS QUITE OFTEN. AND ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN THAT WAS UP HERE SPOKE ABOUT FEAR. AND UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS A LOT OF FEAR HERE ABOUT NUCLEAR POWER, ABOUT DATA CENTERS. AND THAT, THAT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE WE DO NEED THE GROWTH TO SUPPORT IN THE AREA OF WHERE IT'S BEEN DECLARED FOR YEARS. LET'S TALK ABOUT DATA CENTERS FOR A MOMENT. DATA CENTERS ARE NOT THE DATA CENTERS OF OLD, AND THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. THEY'RE GETTING LOUDER, THEY ARE USING MORE ENERGY, BUT THERE ARE ALSO COMPANIES WILLING TO PAY FOR DECREASING THE NOISE AND INCREASE IN THE POWER TO SUPPORT THOSE DATA CENTERS. WE WENT FROM THE ERA OF, UH, IN FACT THERE WAS, WE EVEN HAD A DATA CENTER HERE. WE, THE COUNTY, UH, COURTHOUSE AREA. WE RAN IT OURSELVES. WE MOVED IT TO DATA CENTERS, UH, UP IN, UH, IN RIGO COUNTY ON OFF OF PARHAM ROAD. AND NOW WE EXIST IN THE WEB ENTIRELY WITH THE NEW DATA CENTERS. THOSE NEW DATA CENTERS USE, UH, AS OPPOSED TO CPUS, GPUS, THOSE GPUS ARE MUCH HIGHER POWER USAGE CHIPS. THAT'S WHAT'S ENABLING AI. AND IF YOU STUDY WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF AI, IT IS CHANGING EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR COMPANY. I GREW UP IN AN ERA WHERE THERE WAS GROWTH. I GREW UP IN THE STEEL BELT WHEN IN THE 1960S THERE WAS INCREDIBLE GROWTH OF THE STEEL PRODUCTION FACILITIES THAT DIED OUT ALONG WITH MOST OTHER GROWTH IN OUR NATION. WE HAVE TO CONTINUE GROWTH NOT ONLY FOR US, NOT ONLY FOR US AS TAXPAYERS, BUT FOR CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTY SO THEY CAN GET EMPLOYMENT. SO THE CONTINUED GROWTH THAT IS NEEDED TO RESHORE THINGS THAT WE SENT OFF TO CHINA AND TO OTHER PLACES COMES BACK TO UNITED STATES. SO WE WON'T SUFFER LIKE WE DID PREVIOUSLY WITH ALL THE MISALLOCATION OF RESOURCES THAT WENT OFFSHORE. THIS IS OUR CHANCE. WE CAN DO IT RIGHT. I TRUST THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE COUNTY STAFF. I TRUST THE PEOPLE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT PLEASE. PATRICK SHERIDAN. HI, MY NAME'S PATRICK SHERIDAN. UM, SO YOU'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT SEEKING COMMON GROUND A LOT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, AND I THINK ONE THING EVERYONE CAN AGREE ON HERE IS THAT YOU, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU, SIR. OKAY. UM, I THINK ONE THING EVERYONE CAN AGREE ON HERE IS THAT YOU WOULD WANT A POWER PLANT INCLUDING A NUCLEAR REACTOR. ABSOLUTE. EXCUSE ME, SIR. I APOLOGIZE. I, UH, COULD YOU, [04:00:01] UH, IDENTIFY YOURSELF AGAIN? OKAY. MIND IF I AND YOUR ADDRESS, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO START THE TIME OVER? I I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW MORE SECONDS. WE'RE GOOD? YES, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE. AND THEN MY NAME IS, MY NAME IS PATRICK SHERIDAN. 1 2 7 1 2 SAWDUST DRIVE. SO YOU'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT COMMON GROUND A LOT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. AND ONE THING I THINK EVERYONE HERE CAN AGREE ON IS THAT YOU WOULD WANT A POWER PLANT, INCLUDING A NUCLEAR REACTOR IN A SAFE, STABLE ENVIRONMENT. YOU WOULD NOT PUT A NUCLEAR REACTOR NEXT TO A VOLCANO OR SOMEPLACE LIKELY TO BE IN A FLOOD, RIGHT? COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA. DID YOU KNOW WYNDHAM, VIRGINIA ABOUT A MILE FROM THE PROPOSED NUCLEAR REACTOR HAS HAD FOUR EARTHQUAKES THIS YEAR, WHICH HAVE SHAKEN THE HOMES OF LOCAL RESIDENTS. THE LARGEST WAS A TWO EIGHT. I'VE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE TONIGHT THAT IN THE LAST YEARS IT'S BEEN A LOT. THERE'S BEEN RECENT LOCAL ONES THAT WERE A LOT BIGGER THERE. DID YOU KNOW THE LAST EARTHQUAKE, THE EPICENTER FOUR MONTHS AGO WAS ACTUALLY DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH THE PROPOSED NUCLEAR REACTOR SITE? NOT NEXT TO IT, NOT A MILE AWAY, DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH IT. SO JUST GO TO EARTHQUAKE TRACK.COM AND VERIFY FOR YOURSELVES. ANOTHER QUESTION, WOULD YOU WANNA PUT A NUCLEAR REACTOR NEAR WHERE EXPLOSIVES ARE REGULARLY DETONATED? SO, SO DID YOU KNOW THAT THIS QUARRY IS A COUPLE THOUSAND FEET, ABOUT A QUARTER MILE OF THE PROPOSED REACTOR SITE? IT REGULARLY SETS OFF EXPLOSIVE DETONATIONS LARGE ENOUGH TO SHAKE THE SURROUNDING HOUSES. YOU ALSO RECENTLY APPROVED THE QUARRY GETTING EVEN CLOSER TO THE PROPOSED NUCLEAR SITE. WHY ON EARTH WOULD YOU PROPOSE A NUCLEAR ACTOR WITHIN A FEW THOUSAND FEET OF WHERE A HIGH NUMBER OF LARGE EXPLOSIVES ARE REGULARLY DETONATED? AGAIN, COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. SO A FEW QUOTES JUST FROM THE NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSIONS, LIKE GENERAL SITES, SUITABILITY CRITERIA FOR NUCLEAR POWER STATIONS, QUOTE, PREFERABLY A ROOT NUCLEAR REACTOR SHOULD BE LOCATED SO THAT AT THE TIME OF INITIAL SITE APPROVAL AND FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS AFTER THE POPULATION DENSITY, INCLUDING THE WEIGHTED TRANSIENT POPULATION, AVERAGED OVER A RADIO DISTANCE OF ABOUT 20 MILES, SO IS AT MOST 500 PERSONS PER SQUARE MILE. A REACTOR SHOULD NOT BE LOCATED AT A SITE WHERE THE POPULATION DENSITY IS WELL IN EXCESS OF THIS VALUE. ANOTHER QUOTE, THIS BOUNDARY IS THE POPULATION CENTERS DETERMINED BY POPULATION DISTRIBUTION, NOT POLITICAL BOUNDARIES. THAT MEANS THAT THE POPULA, THIS ISN'T JUST THE POPULATION OF GTIN, BUT ALSO THE COUNTY OF HENRICO AND CITY OF RICHMOND. THIS SITE FAILS THAT TEST. SO BY THE WAY, AS ONE MULTIPLE PEOPLE POINTED OUT AT THE LAST MEETING IN THIS ONE THAT NO REACTOR OF THIS KIND HAS EVER BEEN SUCCESSFULLY BUILT IN THE US GOOGLE IT, THEY ARE ALL CAUGHT UP IN A VERY EXPENSIVE LEGAL, LEGAL BATTLES THAT HAVE COST THOSE COMMUNITIES BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. SO AS FOR THE PEAKER GAS PLANT, DID YOU KNOW THERE'S ALSO CURRENTLY STRONG POLITICAL OPPOSITION TO DOMINION'S PROPOSED CHESTERFIELD PEAKER PEAKER PLANT BASED ON HEALTH, ENVIRONMENTAL AND LEGAL CONCERNS, AS WELL AS ALIGNMENT WITH THE STATE CLEAN ENERGY MANDATES. KEY POINTS INCLUDE HEALTH, ENVIRONMENTAL, LOCAL LEGISLATORS, INCLUDING MULTIPLE STATE CENTERS, ARGUE THE PLANT WOULD INCREASE POLLUTION, HIGHLIGHT RISKS, AND GO AGAINST THE CLEAN ENERGY LAWS OF THE STATE. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE PROPOSED NUCLEAR REACTOR AND GAS PEAKER PLANTS IN IN GLAND COUNTY. THESE PROJECTS RISK ENTANGLING OUR COMMUNITY AND COSTLY LEGAL BATTLES AS SEEN WITH OTHER SMALL NUCLEAR REACTORS AND GAS PEAK PEAKER PLANTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I THINK IT WOULD JUST, WE WOULD JUST SET OURSELVES UP TO BE IN LEGAL BATTLES FOR YEARS WITHOUT ACTUALLY PUTTING IT INTO USE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. NEXT PLEASE. OUR FINAL SPEAKER THAT IS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THIS EVENING IS MEREDITH MOSES. GOOD EVENING. UM, MR. CHAIR BOARD, COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES, UM, I THANK I THANK YOU FOR HAVING, DID YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE? CAN I GO OVER THERE? YES, THAT'S FINE. OKAY. ? SURE. I'M NOT SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. MUCH BETTER. OKAY. UM, THANK, THANKS FOR, FOR DOING THIS. UM, IT, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT GIVEN THE CHOICE BETWEEN BUY RIGHT WITH LITTLE RESTRICTIONS AND TOD WITH MORE RESTRICTIONS, IT WOULD BE BETTER TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE TOD WOULDN'T, OH, I'M SORRY. I'M, I LIVE AT 4 4 6 7, UM, HALLS ROAD. MY NAME'S MEREDITH MOSES. THANK YOU. UH, WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO HAVE A LARGER SETBACK IN BUFFERS BETWEEN A RES UH, A RESIDENT AND A DATA CENTER FOR INSTANCES THAT, THAT HAVE ONE RIGHT. VERSUS ONE THAT THAT HAS ONE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET? MY HANDWRITING'S ATROCIOUS. SORRY. THE TOD PLAN TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE AESTHETICS OF THE RESTRICTED DEVELOPMENT VERSUS A BUY RIGHT ONE UNDER THE CURRENT RESTRICTIONS I LIKE. OH, OKAY. SO ANYHOW, I'M, I'M IN TOTAL SUPPORT OF THE TOD, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, [04:05:01] AND MOSTLY I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COUNTY, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR CONSIDERING THE BEST PLANS FOR GLAND, KEEPING IT RURAL WHERE IT IS, AND DEVELOPING IN AREAS THAT, THAT HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO AT THIS POINT LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE UM, WE FEEL THAT THERE, THERE ARE OTHERS WHO, FOR WHATEVER REASON LEFT [11. Adjournment ] OR THERE ARE OTHERS WHO WANTED TO SPEAK, WHO, UM, HAD NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. SO WE WILL, UM, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING, UH, THIS PROCESS NEXT WEEK, UM, AT THE SAME PLACE IN THE SAME TIME. UM, AND OUR CLERK WILL, MS. PARKER WILL EXPLAIN TO YOU, UM, FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO SIGN UP LIKE OTHERS DID, UM, ON THE WEBSITE, SHE WILL GO THROUGH THAT WITH YOU. UM, AND THEN WE'LL FINISH THE REST OF OUR BUSINESS AND WE WILL, UM, ADJOURN THIS MEETING. BUT FIRST OF ALL, WE NEED A MOTION TO, UM, TO CONTINUE THIS HE PUBLIC HEARING UNTIL NEXT WEEK IF WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO DO SO. I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING FOR NEXT THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 22ND. 25TH. 25TH AT SIX 30. YEP. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? UH, I, I'LL SECOND THAT. IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOTION AND SECOND ROLL CALL. VOTE REAL QUICK, PLEASE. YES, SIR. MR. MCLAUGHLIN AYE. MS. KOWALSKI AYE. MR. COSBY AYE MR. PATOK A, I'M SORRY. A. OKAY. UH, MR. KIMBERLY AYE. THE MOTION TO CONTINUE PASSES ON A FOUR ONE VOTE. THIS CASE WILL BE CONTINUED TO THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2025 AT 6:30 PM IN THE GLAND HIGH SCHOOL AUDITORIUM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.