Oct 07, 2025 Board of Supervisors Regular Meeting

LET US PRAY.

ALMIGHTY GOD, YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED GOVERNMENT FOR THE UPHOLDING OF JUSTICE AND MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE POOR.

AND SO WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD POUR OUT UPON ALL THOSE IN PUBLIC OFFICE, ESPECIALLY THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, YOUR SPIRIT WITH WISDOM AND INTEGRITY, WITH COMPASSION AND HUMILITY, THAT IN ALL THEIR LABORS, THEY MAY FAITHFULLY SERVE.

AND MAY THIS BODY WITH ALL WHO LIVE IN THIS COUNTY WORK FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL PEOPLE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, OUR LORD.

AMEN.

[III. Pledge of Allegiance: Vice-Chair Christy]

I'D LIKE TO NOW CALL ON OUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, DR.

[IV. Chair's Comments]

RAYLEY, WITH A FEW REMARKS.

YEAH, GOOD AFTERNOON

[V. County Administrator's Comments]

AND WELCOME EVERYONE.

I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND BEING ENGAGED IN THE GREAT WORK OF OUR COMMUNITY.

A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR PUBLIC WHO IS HERE IN PERSON AND THOSE WHO ARE WATCHING TODAY.

UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF GREAT THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN OUR COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO OUR

[1. Goochland County Parks and Recreation is hosting its annual Fall Festival on Saturday, October 25, 11A-2PM at the old Goochland Elementary School. Bring the family out for the 2025 Goochland Fall Festival! Costume Contest, Live Music, Vendors, and more!]

PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAM.

I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE A FEW THINGS THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF.

THE FIRST THING IS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION TEAM IS HOSTING ITS ANNUAL FALL FESTIVAL.

CERTAINLY THE WEATHER IS CHANGING, THE LEAVES ARE STARTING TO CHANGE, AND IT'S A BE TIME OF YEAR.

SO WE WELCOME YOU ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER THE 25TH FROM 11:00 AM TO 2:00 PM AT THE OLD GES FIELD.

YOU PROBABLY HAVE SEEN SOME NEW FENCING THAT HAS BEEN INSTALLED THERE, SO THAT SERVES AS THE GATEWAY TO THAT AREA.

AND WELCOME YOU TO COME JOIN US FOR SOME FAMILY FUN.

UH, FOR THE 2025 FALL FESTIVAL, WE'LL HAVE A COSTUME CONTEST, LIVE MUSIC VENDORS, AND A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP A SENSE OF COMMUNITY HERE IN GOLAND.

[2. On Friday, October 31, Goochland County will be hosting Trick or Treat at The County Administration from 3:30-4:30. Come in costume, meet with County staff, and safely trick or treat from door to door.]

ALSO ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 31ST, WHICH IS HALLOWEEN GLAND COUNTY WILL BE HOSTING A TRICK OR TREAT AT THIS BUILDING, THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING FROM THREE 30 TO FOUR 30.

WE HOPE THAT OUR COMMUNITY COMES TO JOIN US IN COSTUME, MEET COUNTY STAFF, AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO TRICK OR TRAINING IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT HERE INSIDE THE COUNTY.

ADMIN BUILDING.

AS A REMINDER, COUNTY

[3. County Offices will be closed on Tuesday, November 4 for Election Day, the next meeting of the Board of Supervisors will be on Thursday, November 6, 2025.]

OFFICES WILL BE CLOSED ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER THE FOURTH FOR ELECTION DAY.

THE NEXT MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE ON THURSDAY INSTEAD OF TUESDAY.

THAT BEING NOVEMBER THE SIXTH, 2025.

UH, THE LAST TIME WE HAD A

[4. Did You Know?]

BOARD MEETING, I SHARED SOME INFORMATION REGARDING THE AMAZING WORK OF OUR STAFF THAT MAYBE OUR CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS MAY NOT KNOW AND WANT TO CONTINUE THAT TRADITION AGAIN HERE TODAY.

AND JUST WANNA TAKE THIS TIME TO CELEBRATE A COUPLE OF OUR DEPARTMENTS AND SHARE SOME THINGS THAT YOU MAY NOT KNOW ABOUT GLAND COUNTY.

SO DID YOU KNOW THAT GLAND COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION MANAGED 4,095 4,095 INDIVIDUAL FACILITY RESERVATIONS IN THE 2025 FISCAL YEAR? DID YOU KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION DIVISION STAFF OF OUR PUBLIC UTILITIES HAS CLEARED 4,436 MISSED UTILITY TICKETS 8 1 1 SO FAR IN 2025 IN THE YEAR IS NOT NEARLY COMPLETE.

SO HUGE, FOLKS, HUGE THANKS TO OUR FOLKS, MAKING SURE THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IS BEING PROTECTED.

AND DID YOU KNOW THAT OUR VERY OWN GOLIN DMV SELECT PROCESS GET THIS NUMBER, 71,342 TRANSACTIONS FOR THE 2025 FISCAL YEAR AVERAGING 5,945 TRANSACTIONS PER MONTH, RIGHT HERE IN GLIN BY OUR AMAZING STAFF.

SO CONGRATULATIONS TO THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY AND DO AMAZING THINGS FOR GLAND COUNTY.

AND ALONG THOSE LINES, I ALSO WANNA TAKE A MOMENT TO PAUSE AND THANK THE GLAND COUNTY STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN A STRONG SUPPORTER OF THE EVENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING IN OUR COMMUNITY OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST SEVERAL WEEKS.

MANY OF YOU HAVE ATTENDED THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, AND THE TOWN HALLS THAT WE'VE BEEN HOSTING.

AND SO WE'VE HAD SEVERAL STAFF WHO HAVE BEEN THERE TO SUPPORT THOSE ENDEAVORS, PASSING OUT COOKIES, SETTING UP, MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING HAS FLOWED SMOOTHLY FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

AND SO THERE ARE SEVERAL NIGHTS THAT, HEY, THEY HAVE BEEN OUT AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES AND DE DEDICATING TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS WE ENGAGE IN THE IMPORTANT WORK OF, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN GLAND.

JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A SHOUT OUT TO OUR TEAM WHO HAS BEEN BEHIND THE SCENES SUPPORTING ALL OF THAT.

IT'S JUST A TESTAMENT TO THE HARD WORK AND DEDICATION OF GUCCI

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COUNTY'S EMPLOYEES AND JUST WANNA THANK THEM PUBLICLY FOR ALL OF THEIR WORK TODAY.

SO THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

AGENDA IS, UH, PRESENTATION OF PROCLAMATION, RECOGNIZING IN OC OCTOBER, 2025 AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH.

AND ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE BOARD, I WANNA THANK THE STAFF AS WELL.

OUTSTANDING JOB, GOOD TEAMWORK, AND THE COOKIES WERE REALLY GOOD.

I APPRECIATE, UH, Y'ALL MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR AND SAVE SOME FOR ME LAST NIGHT.

I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

UH, NEXT ON THE

[VI. Presentation of Proclamation Recognizing October 2025 as Domestic Violence Awareness Month]

UH, LISA WILL READ THAT AND I'LL INVITE SOME WONDERFUL PEOPLE FROM GLAND CARES TO COME JOIN ME AT THE PODIUM.

SHE, WHEREAS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS A PATTERN OF ABUSIVE AND COERCIVE BEHAVIORS USED BY ONE INDIVIDUAL INTENDED TO EXERT POWER AND CONTROL OVER ANOTHER INDIVIDUAL IN THE CONTEXT OF AN INTIMATE OR FAMILY RELATIONSHIP.

AND WHEREAS ABUSIVE BEHAVIORS MAY INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO PHYSICAL ASSAULTS, VERBAL ASSAULTS, THREATS, INTIMIDATION, EMOTIONAL ABUSE, USE OF WEAPONS, DESTRUCTION OF PROPERTY, VIOLENCE TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE OR PETS, SEXUAL VIOLENCE AND CONTROL OVER ECONOMIC RESOURCES.

AND WHEREAS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS AN INTOLERABLE VIOLENT CRIME WITH PUBLIC HEALTH IMPLICATIONS FOR EVERY PERSON IN GLAND COUNTY, WHETHER A VICTIM SURVIVOR, A FAMILY MEMBER, SIGNIFICANT OTHER NEIGHBOR, EMPLOYER, OR COWORKER OF A VICTIM SURVIVOR.

AND WHEREAS NO ONE PERSON, ORGANIZATION, AGENCY, OR COMMUNITY CAN ELIMINATE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE ON THEIR OWN, WE MUST WORK TOGETHER TO EDUCATE OUR ENTIRE POPULATION ABOUT WHAT CAN BE DONE TO PREVENT SUCH VIOLENCE, SUPPORT VICTIMS, SURVIVORS, AND THEIR FAMILIES, AND INCREASE SUPPORT FOR AGENCIES PROVIDING SERVICES TO THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

AND WHEREAS GLAND CARES, A COMPREHENSIVE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAM PROVIDED 72 SURVIVORS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN 2024 BY PROVIDING 24 HOUR HOTLINE SERVICES, FACILITATING SAFETY PLANS, PROVIDING SHELTER SERVICES, OFFERING SUPPORT AND INFORMATION, PROVIDING CASE MANAGEMENT AND COUNSELING, ADVOCATING FOR VICTIMS, SURVIVORS SEEKING PROTECTIVE ORDERS, EMPOWERING SURVIVORS TO CHART THEIR OWN COURSE FOR HEALING AND FACILITATING EDUCATIONAL TRAININGS AND PREVENTION PROGRAMS. AND WHEREAS ENDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN GLAND COUNTY INVOLVES ACTIVE COLLABORATION AMONG GLAND CARES GLAND, COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, GLAND COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, GLAND VICTIM WITNESS PROGRAM, THE 16TH DISTRICT JUVENILE AND DOMESTIC RELATIONS COURT SERVICES UNIT, GLAND, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SERVICES, AND OTHER REGIONAL PARTNERS.

NOW, THEREFORE, WE, THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF OCTOBER AS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS MONTH IN GLAND COUNTY.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED.

SECOND.

ANY DISCUSSION? ALL FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

LET'S GET, LET'S GET A THANK YOU ALL.

EVERYTHING WE DO APPRECIATE.

THESE ARE OUR GUYS TO WEAR AND HONOR.

NEXT I'D LIKE TO ASK IF, UH,

[VII. Requests to Postpone Agenda Items and Additions, Deletions or Changes in the Order of Presentation]

IF WE HAVE ANY, UM, ADDITIONS OF DELETIONS, UH, AGENDA ITEMS TO CHANGE THE ORDER OF PRESENTATION.

[VIII. Citizen Comment]

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MOVE ON NOW TO CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.

WE'LL, WE'LL OPEN IT AND I'LL ASK DR.

RAYLEY TO RESTATE THE RULES.

WELL, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

SO THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WELCOMES PUBLIC COMMENTS AND PUBLIC COMMENTS CERTAINLY HELP TO, UH, UH, STRENGTHEN THE WORK THAT WE ARE DOING AS COUNTY GOVERNMENT.

AND SO PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOT INTENDED TO LAST MORE THAN ONE HOUR, AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR PUBLIC TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON A VARIETY OF ISSUES THAT ARE IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY.

EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

AND SO AS YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS WHEN YOU START.

THE LIGHT YOU CAN SEE ON THE PODIUM WILL TURN GREEN.

THAT STARTS YOUR TIME.

AND THEN AS YOU SPEAK, YOU'LL HAVE A YELLOW LIGHT THAT WILL GO OFF THAT'S LETTING YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT TO GO.

THE SECOND YELLOW LIGHT WILL START TO BLINK, WHICH TELLS YOU THAT YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT.

AND THEN THE RED LIGHT WILL COME ON LETTING YOU KNOW THAT YOUR TIME IS UP.

IF YOU DO WISH TO SPEAK FOR LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES, YOU MAY EXTEND YOUR TIME BY HAVING OTHER RESIDENTS COME UP, STATE THEIR NAME AND SAY THAT THEY ARE SEATING THEIR TIME TO YOU.

YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES PER PERSON UP TO A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES TOTAL FOR THOSE, UH, WHO ARE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING LONGER.

SO, UH, THE PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT SECTION OF OUR MEETING IS OPEN.

YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND SHARE YOUR COMMENTS.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK? UH, HIT THE ON, UH, THE MICROPHONE ON THE VERY BOTTOM OF THE VERY BOTTOM.

THERE YOU GO.

PATTY K 1 2 0 5 5 RA TERRACE IN 1948, WINSTON CHURCHILL FAMOUSLY SAID, THOSE THAT FAIL TO LEARN FROM HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT.

I SUBMIT TO YOU THAT THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT GLAND COUNTY IS DOING BY MAKING THIS TOD BY RIGHT.

THE MAJOR PROBLEMS THAT YOU ARE FACING ARE AS A RESULT OF THE BY RIGHT ZONING IN WEST CREEK.

WE ARE TOLD THAT THIS TOD IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY IN ORDER TO PROTECT RESIDENTIAL AREAS BECAUSE THE CURRENT BY RIGHT ZONING OFFERS ZERO PROTECTIONS.

THAT IS PROBLEM NUMBER ONE.

PROBLEM NUMBER TWO, YOU'VE GOT ELI LILLY WANTING TO COME IN, BUT NEEDS 120 FEET.

AND THE CURRENT BY RIGHT ZONING ALLOWANCE IS 60 FEET.

AND THAT WOULD EXCLUDE THEM.

THE BOARDS THAT ESTABLISHED THE WEST CREEK BUSINESS PARK NEVER ANTICIPATED THESE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT POSSIBLY HAVE KNOWN WHAT THE FUTURE WOULD HOLD.

SO HERE WE ARE.

THE MAJOR PROBLEMS THAT THE TOD IS GOING TO FIX ARE IN FACT, CAUSED BY THE SHORTCOMINGS OF BUYRIGHT ZONING.

INSTEAD OF RECOGNIZING ITS OBVIOUS FLAWS AND LIMITATIONS, YOU ARE NOW DOUBLING DOWN ON IT BY ADDING IT TO THIS TOD.

I BELIEVE THAT YOU'VE CREATED THIS PUBLIC RELATIONS NIGHTMARE WHEN YOU COULD HAVE TAKEN THE VERY SIMPLE STEP OF REVERSING THE BUYRIGHT ZONINGS IN WEST CREEK, CHANGING EVERYTHING TO CONDITIONAL PERMITTING AND CHANGING THE RESTRICTIONS, BASICALLY DOING WHAT SO MANY OTHER COUNTIES HAVE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, REVERSING THE BUYRIGHT ZONING.

THEY'VE RECOGNIZED THE WEAKNESSES OF BUYRIGHT ZONING AND TAKEN BACK THEIR POWER TO MAKE DECISIONS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

THAT'S LEARNING FROM MISTAKES OF THE PAST.

IF YOU HAD HELD A PUBLIC HEARING AND PRESENTED THE FACT THAT LILY NEEDS 120 FEET TO COME TO WEST CREEK AND BUILD IN THE SOCCER FIELDS, THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE SET A RESOUNDING YES, AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO DO THE BALLOON TEST.

BUT PACKAGING IT IN THIS CONVOLUTED TOD WITH A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH IS WHAT'S CREATING THIS PUBLIC PUSHBACK.

YOU ARE NOW SETTING BUILDING HEIGHTS, SETBACKS, SCREENING, NOISE LIMITS THAT FRANKLY DO NOT MATTER IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROJECT DEEP IN THE WOODS ACROSS 2 88.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST TO THIS BOARD IS THAT YOU MAKE THE CHANGES YOU NEED TO, IN ORDER TO CLEAR THE ROAD FOR LILY IMMEDIATELY, DO NOT MUDDY THE WATERS AND POTENTIALLY RISK THE DEAL WITH LILY TO GET THESE OTHER OUTRAGEOUS PROVISIONS IN PLACE FOR WHAT POTENTIAL DATA CENTERS, FIVE TO SEVEN YEARS, THEY'RE DRAWING IN SMRS AND GAS PEAKER PLANTS'.

MIND-BOGGLING.

I I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT ELI LILLY AND PROBABLY THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE ARE PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE PUBLIC OUTCRY GOING ON HERE IN GLAND.

I WOULD URGE YOU TO REVERSE BUYRIGHT ZONING IN WEST CREEK, NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, REMOVE THE BUYRIGHT WORDING IN THE CURRENT DOD AND TAKE YOUR TIME GETTING THAT RIGHT.

WHAT I'M MOST FEARFUL OF IS YOU ALL GIVING AWAY YOUR POWER.

DON'T GIVE IT AWAY TO DEVELOPERS, PLEASE.

DECIBEL ALLOWANCE FOR SOUND IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE LIVE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? HI THERE.

UH, MY NAME'S BRIAN HINSON.

UH, I LIVE IN MOSAIC 9 2 6 3 IAN PLACE.

SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN ME BEFORE.

UM, AND I WAS HOPING TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT TO EVERYONE ON THE BOARD AT ONE TIME.

THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN TODAY, BUT THAT WAS MY WISH.

UH, THIS IS MY ONE CHANCE TO GET YOU IN ONE SPOT.

UM, SO WHAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS SOUND.

THIS IS RELATED TO THE TOD.

UM, UNDER THE CURRENT TOD, THERE'S A 65

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NOW WE USE LANGUAGE.

I WANT TO DEMONSTRATE WHAT THAT LANGUAGE ACTUALLY MEANS, SO THAT BY PRACTICAL EXAMPLE, YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING SAID.

I'VE GOT A SPEAKER IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM HERE AND A DECIMAL METER, AND I'M GONNA BRING THE SPEAKER UP UNTIL IT REACHES 65 DECIBELS ON THIS METER.

OKAY? 65.

THIS IS 65 DECIBELS.

THIS IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY BEING ALLOWED.

THIS IS NOT AN AIRPLANE GOING BY.

THIS IS NOT TRAFFIC THAT COMES AND GOES.

THIS IS CONSTANT NOISE CONSTANT.

THIS WILL NEVER GO AWAY UNDER THE CURRENT ALLOWANCE.

NOW, I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DISCUSSIONS.

NOW, FORMERLY FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE, UM, SUBMITTED FOR THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT IT BE REDUCED TO 45 DECIBELS, WHICH, UH, IS, IS THE PROVEN SCIENTIFIC LEVEL THAT IS SAFE AND HEALTHY.

UM, IT WILL NOT GET INTO YOUR HOME.

IT WILL NOT DISRUPT YOUR SLEEP.

THIS IS A GOOD LEVEL.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT MEETING IN THE MIDDLE, PERHAPS AT 55 DECIBELS.

I WANNA PLAY WHAT, 55 DECIBELS SOUNDS LIKE NOW.

OKAY, THIS IS 55.

THIS IS 50 UNDER 55 DECIBELS.

THIS IS WHAT 55 DECIBELS.

SOUNDS LIKE THIS IS CONSTANT NOISE THAT NEVER GOES AWAY.

IT'S NOT TRAFFIC NOISE THAT COMES AND GOES.

IT'S NOT A AIRPLANE.

THIS IS CONSTANT.

WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE TOD WHEN I BOUGHT, WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOME, IT, IT BECAME HAVE HAS MY LIGHT GONE OFF ALREADY? I I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION.

STOP.

SO THIS IS JUST A SECONDARY POINT.

UM, WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT.

WE PURCHASED OUR HOME, IT'S ZONE RESIDENTIAL.

THE LAND AROUND US IS AGRICULTURAL.

THE TOD PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT AGRICULTURAL LAND TO TURN IMMEDIATELY TO COMMERCIAL, I MEAN TO INDUSTRIAL.

UM, WE, I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS.

YOU GUYS KNOW BETTER THAN I DO.

UM, WE'RE JUST SIMPLY ASKING THAT YOU HONOR THE COMMITMENT ALREADY MADE TO THE RESIDENCE WHEN WE PURCHASED IN THIS AREA AND PROTECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND OUR PROPERTY VALUES.

AND I WANNA SAY WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS COMPLETELY POSSIBLE.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU CANNOT DO.

IT IS POSSIBLE TO REACH 45 DECIBELS AND WE CAN HAVE A WIN-WIN SITUATION.

WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO COME? LINDA MOORE 2164 PROFIT ROAD IN FRONT OF YOU ALL.

YOU'VE GOT A TEAL PUMPKIN IN THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT TEAL PUMPKIN IS.

I'M JUST GONNA READ IT VERY SHORTLY.

OKAY? HALLOWEEN CAN BE TRICKY TIMES FOR FAMILIES MANAGING FOOD ALLERGIES.

MANY HALLOWEEN TREATS AREN'T SAFE FOR FOOD ALLERGY PEOPLE.

THE TEAL UH, PUMPKIN PROJECT PROMOTES SAFETY AND INCLUSION FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH FOOD ALLERGIES TO KEEP HALLOWEEN FUN FOR EVERYONE.

DEAL PUMPKIN IS JUST THAT.

UM, UH, CURRENTLY THERE ARE FOUR CHILDREN UNDER FIVE IN THE NURSERY THAT I KEEP THAT HAVE TERRIBLE FOOD ALLERGIES.

THE PARENT KEEPS THE EPIPEN WITH THE CHILD SO THAT WE CAN RECOGNIZE IF THE CHILD NEEDS IT.

WE HAVE THE PARENT'S NUMBER, BUT IT'S A SCARY, SCARY PROPOSITION TO HAVE YOUR CHILD.

AND WE DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S INCREASED.

IT'S INCREASED IMMENSELY OVER THE YEARS.

SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU, LIKE I SAID, I'M, I'M BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND PROMOTING, UM, FOOD SAFETY.

UH, ENJOY YOUR LITTLE PUMPKINS.

NOW APPROVAL OF THE ACTION MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

THANK YOU, MS. MOHO.

WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK? UH, SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

AND I DO WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY.

I'M A LITTLE REMISS.

UH, MR. RS IS NOT HERE WITH US RIGHT NOW.

UH, HE HAD AN IMPORTANT MEETING APPOINTMENT THAT HE COULD NOT GET OUT OF, UH, BUT HE WILL BE JOINING US IN THE EVENING SESSION.

UM,

[IX. Approval of Action Minutes]

[1. Minutes of Sep 4, 2025 12:00 PM]

CIP

[2. Minutes of Sep 4, 2025 3:30 PM]

WORK, WORK SESSION ON SEPTEMBER 4TH, UH,

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2025 AT 12:00 PM AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REGULAR MEETING THAT AFTERNOON, UH, AT 3:30 PM UM, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THESE, UH, MINUTES.

YOU'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THEM.

ANY COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS OR, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN? I, I DO WANT, UH, TO THOSE THAT HAVE ACCESS THAT, UH, IT'S WORD PACKET, PAGE 11, BUT PAGE FOUR AT THE BOTTOM WHERE IT DOES DISCUSS OUR INDEBTEDNESS AND THE FACT THAT THE TCSD, UM, IS ON TRACK TO BE PAID OFF, UH, IN A, I WOULD SAY ACCELERATED MANNER.

UH, I HEAR FREQUENTLY FROM FOLKS WHO PAY THAT TAX, UM, THAT WHEN IS IT GOING TO GO AWAY? IF THE BONDS WENT TO MATURITY, IT WOULDN'T BE UNTIL THE 19, I'M SORRY, THE 2040S.

UH, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY ON TRACK THAT IT COULD BE PAID OFF WITHIN THE NEXT FOUR AND A HALF, FIVE YEARS.

SO I KNOW THERE IS ANGST AND PEOPLE, UH, CONSIDER THE REFINANCING WE DID AS A BOARD THAT THE BOARD DID, UH, THREE YEARS AGO, FOUR YEARS AGO, UH, TO HAVE EXTENDED THE INDEBTEDNESS.

BUT ACTUALLY IT HAS ACCELERATED THE OPPORTUNITY TO PAY OFF.

AND, AND, UH, I WOULD JUST, AGAIN, COMMEND THOSE PAGES TO PEOPLE WHO WANNA READ THE NUMBERS.

I'M NOT GOING TO, UH, TRESPASS ON OUR TIME UNDULY, BUT WE ARE ON TRACK TO GET THE TCSD BONDS RETIRED.

AND UH, A LOT OF THAT COMES FROM ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THERE IS LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL AND IT'S NOT AN ONCOMING TRAIN.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, JUST I HAVE A MOTION IF WE COULD TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.

I'LL MOVE THAT.

SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

[X. Reports]

MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, I WANNA INTRODUCE FOUR NEW EMPLOYEES.

UH, NEXT ON THE AGENDA OF REPORTS, I'LL ASK DR.

RAYLEY TO DISCUSS.

YEP.

THANK YOU, MR. WINFREY.

AND SO WE DO HAVE SEVERAL REPORTS ON THE AGENDA TODAY.

AND SO AS WE GET INTO THE REPORTS, UH, WE ARE GOING TO START TO PROVIDE GREATER OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO SPEAK ABOUT THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING WITHIN THEIR DEPARTMENTS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME AGENCY REPORTS THAT WE FORTHCOMING ON A REGULAR BASIS IN THE COMING MONTHS.

UH, BUT THE FIRST REPORT FOR TODAY IS THE INTRODUCTION OF NEW COUNTY STAFFS.

I WANT TO ASK MR. CLIFF HELLER, OUR DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES TO COME FORWARD,

[1. Introduction of New County Staff]

UM, A QUICK NOTE, OUR SECOND ONE IS NOT PRESENT, BUT, UM, HE'S AT A CONFERENCE ALREADY, SO WE'RE GETTING HIM GOING QUICKLY.

SO, UH, OUR FIRST ONE, AND WE'LL BE VERY EXCITED.

PUBLIC UTILITIES, UH, UH, DIRECTOR ELIZABETH MCDONALD JOINS US.

UM, SHE HAS BEEN HERE SINCE EARLY SEPTEMBER.

SHE JUST MISSED THE LAST MEETING.

SO WELCOME ELIZABETH.

AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, OUR SECOND PERSON IS OUR GIS ANALYST, UH, AUSTIN MANFIELD.

UH, AUSTIN COMES FROM THE NOAA WHERE HE WAS WORKING, UH, IN THE DC AREA, SO VERY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM.

OUR THIRD NEW EMPLOYEE IS JENNIFER ANDERSON, DE DEPUTY REGISTRAR.

JENNIFER IS LOCAL, LIVES IN CLOSURE.

SHE'S BEEN WITH US FOR SEVERAL YEARS AS A VOLUNTEER PRIOR TO THIS.

AND THEN LASTLY, MICHAEL HAS JOINED US AS OUR SPECIAL PROJECTS PLANS REVIEWER IN THE BUILDING INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT.

WELCOME EVERYONE.

CONGRATS FOR JOINING.

WELCOME INDEED.

NICE SIGNING DAY.

I DUNNO.

[2. Goochland County Public Schools Report]

ALRIGHT, SO NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA BOARD MEMBERS IS A REPORT FROM DR.

ANDY ARMSTRONG, OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF GLAND COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS, HERE TO SHARE AN UPDATE ON THE GREAT WORK HAPPENING WITHIN OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.

GOOD CAPTION.

THANK YOU MS. PASCALE, AND GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR WINFREY AND BOARD MEMBERS.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

I KNOW YOU'VE, UH, WE'VE BEEN AROUND EACH OTHER A LOT, UH, IN OUR TOWN HALLS RECENTLY AND SOME OTHER MEETINGS.

SO REALLY APPRECIATIVE OF THE FACT THAT YOU ALL ARE GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AT A REGULAR INTERVAL ON THE HAPPENINGS HERE IN OUR SCHOOL DIVISION.

AND I WANT TO THANK MS. ROBINSON, WHO'S HERE FROM OUR SCHOOL BOARD TODAY, WHO'S, WHO'S REPRESENTING AS WELL, AND WANT TO GET INTO JUST A FEW UPDATES THAT THAT MAY GO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER THAN WHAT YOU HEARD LAST NIGHT AT OUR TOWN HALL.

I SHOULD PROBABLY EXPLAIN THE PICTURE.

UM, THIS IS AT THE RANDOLPH ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TASK CARD TAILGATE LAST WEEK.

AND YOU CAN SEE AT RANDOLPH, WE HAD OUR UCHIN HIGH SCHOOL CHEERLEADERS, UCHIN HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM WHO WERE THERE.

AND

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THE GLAND HIGH SCHOOL FIFTH GRADE CAME OUT AND BASED ON THEIR ANSWERS TO SOME CERTAIN ACADEMIC QUESTIONS, WE'RE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN SOME GAMES.

AND, UH, WE HAD A GOOD TIME AND SHOWED SOME KIDS HOW IT WAS DONE IN THE CORNHOLE, UH, COURT THERE.

SO I, I THINK YOU COULD TELL BY WHO WAS WINNING BY WHO WAS SMILING IN THAT PICTURE EXACTLY.

AND I'M SURE THAT YOUNG MAN WAS.

UM, SO WE, WE HAD A GREAT TIME THERE AND, UH, REALLY JUST APPRECIATE THE ENERGY RIGHT NOW IN THE SCHOOL DIVISION.

EVERYONE'S SUPPORT HERE.

DID WANNA GIVE YOU ALL A QUICK ENROLLMENT UPDATE.

THIS IS HOT OFF THE PRESS, UM, IN THE FIRST, WE'RE IN WEEK EIGHT.

NOW, THE SCHOOL YEAR, IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE WE'RE ACTUALLY AT THE ALMOST ONE QUARTER POINT IN THE YEAR.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, THE ENROLLMENT CHANGE.

AND THIS IS OF INTEREST, OF COURSE, IN OUR CAPITAL PLANNING AND OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET, UH, PLANNING THAT'S COMING UP HERE SOON.

AND WE HAVE TICKED UP THIS YEAR BY ABOUT 47 OR EXACTLY 47 STUDENTS AT THIS POINT.

AND THAT JUSTIFIES THE SUPPORT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THIS BOARD TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL POSITIONS THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS BACK IN THE SPRING, UH, WHICH ACCOMMODATED THAT.

I DID WANT TO NOTE, THOUGH, THAT OF THE 47 STUDENTS WHO ARE NEW TO OUR ROSTERS, AS OF NOW, UH, OVER HALF OF THEM ARE STUDENTS WITH SPECIAL NEEDS, UH, STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES.

AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE, UH, WHILE THE NEEDS OF THOSE STUDENTS ALL DEPENDS ON THE IEP AND THE INDIVIDUALIZED, UM, ACTION PLANS AROUND THOSE THAT CAN SOMETIMES TRANSLATE TO ADDITIONAL STAFFING.

UH, IT'S SOMETHING WE JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT AS WE PREPARE FOR OUR, OUR BUDGET COMING FORWARD.

BUT YOU WILL SEE THAT WE'RE SITTING AT, UH, 26 90, UH, THIS YEAR.

AND WE ALSO ARE PROPOSING TO ENGAGE IN AN UPDATE TO OUR ENROLLMENT PROJECTION STUDY IN THE NEAR FUTURE AS WELL, WHICH WE KNOW WILL, UH, COMPLIMENT OUR WORK FOR BUDGET PLANNING AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR FEEDBACK FOR DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING THAT OFF THE GROUND.

UPDATE FOR ACCOUNTABILITY.

THIS HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS, UH, QUITE A BIT, ESPECIALLY IN PUBLIC EDUCATION CIRCLES.

AND WE ARE, UH, STILL WAITING ON FINAL REPORTS FROM VIRGINIA DEPART OF EDUCATION ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.

UM, WE ARE FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT WE WILL HAVE, ALL OF OUR SCHOOLS WILL BE, UH, ON TRACK OR DISTINGUISHED, AND YOU MAY HAVE HEARD THE PHRASE, FULLY ACCREDITED IN YEARS PAST.

UM, WE, THE STATE'S ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM NOW DIVIDES PERFORMANCE CATEGORIES INTO FOUR CATEGORIES.

THERE'S NEEDS AND INTENT TO SUPPORT OFF TRACK, ON TRACK AND DISTINGUISHED, AND WHERE YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THREE OF OUR SCHOOLS WILL BE ON TRACK WHILE RANDOLPH ELEMENTARY AND UCHIN HIGH SCHOOL WILL BOTH BE DISTINGUISHED SCHOOLS, WHICH IS, UH, A HIGH HONOR FOR OUR SCHOOL DIVISION, WILL BE DIGGING INTO THIS DATA AND IN MUCH MORE DEPTH AT OUR OCTOBER 14TH BOARD MEETING.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SHARING THAT WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR BOARD.

WE'LL ALSO MENTION THAT THE STATE BOARD IS DELIBERATING THE CUT SCORES AND HOW WE'RE GONNA IMPLEMENT UPDATED CUT SCORES FOR THE SPRING, UH, COMING, COMING AHEAD IN 2026, WHICH, UH, I WILL KEEP OUR COMMUNITY APPRISED OF THAT IS STILL ALSO IN MOTION.

THEY ARE DELIBERATING AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AND AS WELL AS DETERMINING HOW THEY'RE GONNA MEASURE GROWTH.

AND AS YOU MAY HAVE HEARD, SCHOOL ACCOUNTABILITY DEPENDS ON MASTERY GROWTH AND READINESS FOR ELEMENTARY MIDDLE SCHOOLS MASTERY, UH, GRADUATION AND READINESS FOR OUR HIGH SCHOOL.

SO MEASURING GROWTH IS A KEY COMPONENT, AND I KNOW THE STATE IS WORKING HARD TO DETERMINE HOW THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

SO A LOT OF THINGS IN FLUX RIGHT NOW.

WE WILL KEEP EVERYONE POSTED ON THAT AND HOW IT AFFECTS OUR DIVISION.

STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE IS IN FULL SWING.

WE ACTUALLY BEGAN THIS PROCESS, UM, BACK IN MARCH IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO MY ARRIVAL.

AND WE'RE WORKING WITH INTER WILL AT AT LUCK COMPANIES.

THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER AND HAVE SUPPORTED US IN DEVELOPING WHAT IS A RECOGNIZED STRATEGIC PLAN FOR ITS CONCISION, ITS EFFECTIVENESS.

AND AS I TELL PEOPLE, OUR STRATEGIC PLAN DOESN'T JUST GATHER DUST.

IT IS A, A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT.

WE ALL KNOW ABOUT OUR CORE VALUES, OUR MISSION, OUR VISION, BUT THIS IS VERSION THREE.

THIS IS A SIX YEAR STRATEGIC PLAN THAT ORIGINALLY KICKED OFF IN 2014, AND WE ARE NOW WORKING ON THAT THIRD ITERATION.

SO OUR NEXT STEP, THE ONE THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY IN NOW, IS GATHERING FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY, FROM OUR STAFF, FROM OUR FAMILIES, AND DIRECTLY FROM OUR STUDENTS THROUGH A SURVEY.

IT'S A QR CODE THERE.

WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO ACCESS THAT AND PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN TAKE ALL OF THAT, COMPILE IT, AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH REFINING OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE SHOULD HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF THE BOARD FOR ANOTHER UPDATE IN DECEMBER AND HOPEFULLY FOR FIRST READ BY THE BOARD IN MARCH FOR ULTIMATE APPROVAL CAREER PATHWAYS AND CTEA LOT HERE.

BUT I, I DO WANNA UPDATE THE BOARD ON THE WORK WE'RE DOING IN THE EMPLOYMENT ENLISTMENT AND ENROLLMENT DIMENSIONS OF OUR EXPERIENCE HERE FOR STUDENTS IN GOLAND COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

WE ARE, UH, MARKETING AND ADDITIONAL AGRICULTURAL EDUCATION, UH, POSITION AT GOLAND MIDDLE SCHOOL.

WE ARE WORKING WITH STAFF AND BUSINESS PARTNERS TO DEVELOP THE ACADEMY OF LOGISTICS, MECHATRONICS AND ROBOTICS, WHICH WE HOPE WILL PHASE IN BEGINNING IN 2026 FOR LAUNCH.

AND WE'RE EXPLORING THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR BIO MANUFACTURING, UH, PROGRAMMING, WHICH WOULD ALIGN WITH THE, AND BE RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS OF THE ELI LILLY FACILITY COMING ONLINE.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES AND OUR PROGRAMMING IS RESPONSIVE TO THE LOCAL WORKFORCE NEEDS AND ENLISTMENT.

I'M PROUD TO SAY WE HAVE 150 STUDENTS RIGHT NOW IN M-C-J-R-T-C, WHICH IS MORE THAN WE'VE EVER HAD IN IN ROTC.

UH, JUST REALLY PROUD OF, EXCUSE ME, THAT

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TEAM STAFF SERGEANT STRONG LIEUTENANT COLONEL WILLIAMS, DOING GREAT WORK THERE.

WE ARE ALSO FOR THE FIRST TIME GOING TO BE ADMINISTERING THE ASVAB TO ALL OF OUR 11TH GRADERS, UH, THIS MONTH, ACTUALLY, AS LONG AS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GOES BACK TO WORK AT SOME POINT, UM, WHEN WE CAN GET THEM OUT TO, TO ADMINISTER THAT.

BUT WE EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN THIS OCTOBER.

AND IN ENROLLMENT, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A FEW STATS.

WE ARE OFFERING 11 ADVANCED PLACEMENT AND 23 DUAL ENROLLMENT COURSES AT OCHIN HIGH SCHOOL, ALL OF WHICH REPRESENT TRANSFERABLE POST-SECONDARY CREDIT AND SAVINGS FOR OUR STUDENTS AND FAMILIES.

WE HAVE 99 OF OUR 252 SENIORS WHO ARE ON TRACK TO EARN AN ASSOCIATE'S DEGREE THIS YEAR WHEN THEY GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS TREMENDOUS.

AND WE HAVE 167 OF OUR 228 EIGHTH GRADERS WHO ARE IN ADVANCED MATH.

SO WE HAVE 73% OF OUR EIGHTH GRADERS ARE TAKING ALGEBRA ONE OR ABOVE RIGHT NOW IN EIGHTH GRADE.

THAT'S NOT NEW.

UH, UCHIN HAS ALWAYS DONE THAT, BUT IT'S WORTH RECOGNIZING BECAUSE THE STATES PUT A LOT OF ATTENTION IN ADVANCED COURSEWORK.

THAT IS WHAT SETS UP OUR STUDENTS FOR SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE.

I WILL TELL YOU, I DIDN'T TAKE ALGEBRA ONE IN EIGHTH GRADE.

UM, IT'S QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT, PROUD OF OUR STUDENTS AND OUR TEAM FOR MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

DO WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY OF MY LISTENING TOUR? I AM IN THE MIDST OF MY ENTRY PLAN AND HAVE HELD TWO, UH, LISTENING TOUR STOPS AT BOTH BYRD AND GUCH AND RECREATION.

I'LL BE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL TOMORROW EVENING AT RANDOLPH ON THE 20TH AND THEN WRAPPING UP A JERUSALEM BAPTIST ON THE 28TH OF THIS MONTH.

AS I'M GATHERING FEEDBACK IN A, A VERY COLLABORATIVE SMALL GROUP SETTING, ASKING FOLKS ABOUT WHAT THEY FEEL IS WORKING, WHAT WE CAN IMPROVE, TAKING THAT IN, LETTING THAT INFORM MY FIRST A HUNDRED DAYS REPORT IN FEBRUARY.

AND ALSO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN WORK THAT WE'RE ENGAGING IN RIGHT NOW.

NEXT STEPS, JUST A FEW THINGS I WANTED TO PUT ON THE BOARD'S RADAR.

WE'RE KICKING OFF OUR BUDGET WORK AS I KNOW THE COUNTY IS AS WELL.

WE WILL HAVE A SURVEY GOING OUT ON NOVEMBER 6TH TO ASSESS SOME OF THE FEEDBACK IN OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT OUR BUDGET PREPARATION.

WE WILL BE, UH, WORKING WITH OUR STAFF, WITH OUR BOARD, AS WELL AS YOU KNOW, COUNTY STAFF TO THINK ABOUT NEXT STEPS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR CT EDITION AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, AS WELL AS WEAPONS DETECTION.

WE KNOW THAT'S BEEN SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE NEWS RECENTLY, LOCALLY, WANNA KEEP, UH, PUSHING THE GAS ON THOSE INITIATIVES.

WE'LL BE WORKING TO PRESENT A THREE YEAR CALENDAR FOR OUR FAMILIES, UH, THIS WINTER SO THAT WE CAN GIVE SOME CONSISTENCY AND SOME ADVANCED NOTICE TO OUR FAMILIES AS THEY PREPARE FOR THEIR LIVES AND SUMMERS WITH THEIR KIDS, WHICH WE KNOW, UH, GETS VERY BUSY.

WE ANTICIPATE, UH, THIS OCTOBER AT OUR BOARD MEETING NEXT WEEK, THAT OUR BOARD WILL BE PROVIDING YOU ALL WITH A REQUEST FOR TURNBACK THAT WE HOPE TO HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU FOR YOUR NOVEMBER MEETING.

AND THEN OUR NOVEMBER BOARD MEETING, OUR SCHOOL BOARD MEETING.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO TALKING MORE ABOUT THE SAFE SCHOOLS TASK FORCE, WHERE WE'RE MODELING A NEW WAY OF LOOKING AT OUR FACILITY SAFETY COMMITTEE.

THAT'S GONNA BE A LOT MORE, UH, JUST COLLABORATIVE.

IT'S GONNA BE A BIGGER TENT FOR A LOT MORE VOICES TO HAVE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SCHOOL SAFETY.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, UH, SALARY STUDY WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF OUR SCALES THAT WE COMMISSIONED THROUGH EVERGREEN LAST YEAR.

THERE'LL BE THAT ARE PRESENT IN NOVEMBER.

AND I HOPE TO HAVE ALL OF YOU ALL JOIN YOUR RESPECTIVE SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS AND OUR STAFF TO TOUR SOME OF OUR SCHOOLS IN THE WINTER.

SO I'M GONNA WORK WITH MS. BAITZ AND, UH, HOPEFULLY WE CAN FIND SOME TIME IN THAT, IN THAT BUSY BUDGET SEASON TO HAVE YOU ALL OUT TO SEE OUR STAFF IN ACTION.

WE, WE'D LOVE TO, TO SHOWCASE WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.

DR.

REALLY, THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR NOW.

IT'S A BUSY, EXCITING TIME.

HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

DR. ARMSTRONG, YOU USED A COUPLE OF ACRONYMS. YOU, YOU SAID SORRY, I DID.

SOMETIMES IT'S EDUCATION.

SO THE JR JUNIOR MARINE CORPS.

JR TWO C.

YEAH, THANKS.

I GOT A MARINE ON MY RIGHT HERE.

SOON AS HE GETS THE CRAYON OUT OF HIS MOUTH, HE'LL TELL ME WHAT I NEED TO SAY.

UM, WHAT WAS THAT ACRONYM? YOU, YOU, UM, I TRIED TO WRITE IT DOWN, BUT YOU WENT QUICKLY.

M-C-J-R-T-C OR AFAB? NO, SIR.

SAY THE SECOND ONE AS ASVAB.

THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S THE APTITUDE APTITUDE BATTERY TEST.

AND THAT IS A, A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK IT IS A, A TEST ADMINISTERED TO SIMPLY ASSESS MILITARY READINESS, BUT IT IS REALLY A, A VERY ROBUST CAREER EXPLORATION TOOL.

BUT IT IS ADMINISTERED BY THE ARMED SERVICES.

UM, THEY DO IT AT NO CHARGE FOR ANY SCHOOL IN THE COUNTRY.

AND IT ALSO COUNTS TOWARD THE ACCOUNTABILITY SYSTEM NOW IN VIRGINIA.

SO OUR KIDS WHO TAKE THAT AND SCORE CERTAIN, UH, AT A LEVEL A THRESHOLD ON THAT TEST WILL, WILL ALSO HELP OUR ACCOUNTABILITY.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT'S A GREAT TOOL FOR STUDENTS TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT MILITARY CAREERS.

THAT WAS A LONG ANSWER TO MY SHORT QUESTION, BUT THANK YOU.

I GOT A FOLLOW UP ON THAT.

UH, ARE THEY ABLE TO RETAKE IT? YOU SAY IF THEY DON'T SCORE AS WELL AS THEY'D LIKE, IS IT SOMETHING THEY CAN RETAKE? I'LL CONFIRM THIS MR. CHRISTIE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU CANNOT WITH THE AS A P, UM, AND THEN WE DON'T SET THOSE RULES PER SE.

BUT I WILL, I'LL GET YOU A SOLID ANSWER ON THAT.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

CLOSELY TO THE, THE, UH, STUDENT RATES.

UM, OW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND FOR BEING THERE LAST NIGHT AS WELL WITH, WITH YOUR BOARD.

UM, WHEN I SEE THE, THE, I I, I JUST TUNE IN VERY

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UM, AND FOR SINCE 2020 WHEN I GOT ON THE BOARD, WE HAD BEEN GOING DOWN SLIGHTLY, NOT ANYTHING THAT WOULD SET OFF ALARM BELLS, BUT WE'D, IT SEEMS THAT THAT TREND HAS CHANGED.

LAST YEAR WE HAD ABOUT 20, UH, WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS 2025 KINDERGARTNERS COMING.

AND THE EXPLANATION WE GOT WAS THOSE WERE THE COVID BABIES.

UM, WE TRIED TO DRILL IN A LITTLE DEEPER ON THAT, BUT WE DON'T, WE DIDN'T REALLY GET MUCH MORE INFORMATION.

THE ENROLLMENT IN THE SCHOOLS IS SO CRITICAL TO THE PLANNING THAT WE DO.

UM, I WOULD LOVE TO INVITE YOU BACK FOR A DEEPER DIVE IN, WHERE ARE THESE, WHERE ARE THESE CHILDREN COMING FROM? RIGHT? UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SPECIAL NEEDS.

OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANNA GET INTO PERSONAL INFORMATION, BUT WHERE ARE THEY LIVING IN THE COUNTY? WHAT GRADES ARE THEY COMING IN? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO, WE DO HAVE TO LOOK AT OUR CAPITAL IMPACT MODEL TO, AS THE DECISIONS WE MAKE IMPACT YOU.

WE GET TOLD ALL THE TIME, WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE DON'T HAVE, THE SCHOOLS AREN'T READY, THIS AND THAT.

I WANNA DISSUADE A LOT OF THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING, UH, SMART PLANNING.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND, AND THAT'S WHY I REALLY WANTED TO PRIORITIZE MOVING FORWARD.

AND, AND YOU'LL LIKELY SEE THIS PENDING OUR BOARD'S ACTION NEXT WEEK AND OUR TURN BACK MONEY.

WE, WE HOPE TO, UH, PROPOSE TO, UH, HAVE AN UPDATE TO THAT IN DEPTH ENROLLMENT STUDY, UH, WITH, UH, WALPERT, THE, THE OUTFIT WE'VE BEEN USING TO DO THAT FOR YEARS.

RIGHT.

AND THEN THAT'S THE MAIN REASON REALLY WE KNOW HOW CRITICAL THAT IS.

AWESOME.

AND THEN THE SAME IS A COMMENT, MY LAST MR. CHAIR IS JUST A COMMENT.

UM, I AM SO PROUD OF YOU, YOUR BOARD AND THE STAFF, UH, FOR BEING SO NIMBLE, SEEING THE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE COMING AND WORKING TOWARDS THAT.

I WAS FORTUNATE TO GET A, AN AUDIENCE WITH THE SECRETARY OF LABOR, SECRETARY SLATER AND, UH, AND DR.

PANDO, UM, AS WELL.

AND TO SEE THE THIS REGION IS, IS IT IS, UH, I, I DON'T WANT THIS REGION TO BE A VICTIM OF ITS OWN SUCCESS, MEANING WE'RE HAVING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF VERY TECHNICAL JOBS.

UH, WE WE'RE GONNA NEED THE WORKFORCE FOR THAT.

SO THIS IS JUST A THANK YOU.

AND WHILE IT'S AMAZING THAT YOU'RE STAYING ON TOP OF THAT, AS I MADE THE COMMENTS IN THE CIP MEETING, I'M SORRY.

IN THE CIP MEETING, I REALLY DO WANT US TO HAVE THE BEST TECHNICAL, UM, UH, STUDIES PROGRAM IN THE REGION.

AND, AND, UH, I, I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALIGNED ON THAT.

SO YES, LET'S GET, LET'S MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

AND I HAVE, I HAVE REPEATED THAT COMMENT TO MANY PEOPLE, MR. SPOON, NOWER.

SO THANK YOU.

SO YOU'RE GONNA HOLD ME TO IT, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? ABSOLUTELY.

I WAS SITTING THERE LAST NIGHT LISTENING TO YOUR WONDERFUL PRESENTATION AND BEING PROUD AS WE ARE SPEAKING HERE.

AND THE THOUGHT OCCURRED TO ME, KNOWING WHAT I KNOW NOW ABOUT OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM AND OUR HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES.

IF I WAS STILL PRESIDENT OF THE BANK AND I HAD AN APPLICATION, A BUNCH OF APPLICATIONS FOR EMPLOYMENT, AND I SAW WHERE SOMEONE HAD A DIPLOMA FROM GLAND HIGH SCHOOL, I WOULD MOVE 'EM TO THE TOP OF THE PILE.

BUT THAT MEANS A LOT.

AND IT'S JUST, AND THAT'S A REPUTATION.

WE WANT TO, WE WANNA MAINTAIN AND IMPROVE, UH, EVERYWHERE, LOCALLY, STATE, NATIONALLY.

ANYTHING, ANY OTHER QUESTION? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, DR.

KEEP ON DOING GREAT THINGS.

THANK YOU, MR. WINFREY.

WELL, BOARD MEMBERS, WE WANNA KEEP THAT POSITIVE MOMENTUM GOING FOR YOUR NEXT PRESENTATION.

I'M GONNA ASK CHIEF FERGUSON TO COME FORWARD TO

[3. Fire Rescue Report]

THE PODIUM.

YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SOME RECENT NEWS COVERAGE OF THIS.

AND I'VE BRIEFED YOU INFORMALLY ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING TO PROVIDE THE GIFT OF LIFE TO CITIZENS AND VISITORS AND ANYONE IN OUR COUNTY WHO MAY BE IN NEED.

AND JUST REALLY PROUD OF THE WORK THAT OUR TEAM IS DOING HERE TO, UH, TO PROVIDE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO FOLKS.

AND SO, UH, I WANNA CELEBRATE THAT TODAY AND GIVE CHIEF FERGUSON AND HIS TEAM AND OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THAT WORK.

WE HAVE A TECHNICAL ISSUE GOING ON.

UH, WHEN WE BUY LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, WE LOOK AT THOSE, UH, CAREFULLY.

THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SKIP OVER THIS FOR THE MOMENT.

WE CAN, UH, COPY, WE CAN DO WITHOUT IT.

IF YOU NEED IT, YOU NEED TO IT RIGHT NOW.

HEY, WE CAN DO IT.

NO PROBLEM.

THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE FINE.

UH, 'CAUSE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS, UH, WITHOUT THE SLIDESHOW.

UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DR.

RAIL, UM, EDDIE FERGUSON, FIRE RESCUE CHIEF.

UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR FIRE RESCUE.

AND ALSO, UH, WE PROVIDED A, A REPORT THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE ITEMS IN THE REPORT, THEN WE'D BE HAPPY TO, UM, EXPLAIN THAT, UH, OR ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, UM, THAT WE ARE FIRE, RESCUE AND EMERGENCY SERVICES AND, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF FIRE SAFETY.

THIS IS FIRE SAFETY FIRE PREVENTION WEEK, UH, NATIONAL FIRE PREVENTION WEEK.

AND THIS, UH, THIS YEAR'S THEME IS, UH, CHARGING THE FIRE SAFETY AND IT'S CENTERED AROUND, UH, LITHIUM, UH, ION BATTERY SAFETY.

UH, MAKING SURE THAT, UH, THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LIFE THAT RUN OFF OF LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, WE RESEARCH THOSE.

WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE, WE UNDERSTAND THE HAZARDS THAT GO ALONG WITH THOSE.

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WE MAKE SURE WE BUY THOSE FROM REPUTABLE BUSINESSES THAT ARE RECOMMENDED FOR THE PRODUCTS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY USING THEM FOR.

UH, AND EVEN DOWN TO A CHARGER, IF, UH, YOUR CHARGER GOES BAD FOR A, A, SOME TYPE OF AN APPLIANCE OR SOME TYPE OF, UH, INSTRUMENT OR DEVICE THAT USES A, A LITHIUM ION BATTERY, MAKE SURE YOU GET THE RIGHT CHARGER AND MAKE IT'S BEST IF YOU GO BACK TO THE MANUFACTURER, UH, TO HAVE THAT.

SOME OF THE BATTERIES WE SEE, THE SMALLER BATTERIES, EVEN THE BATTERIES IN THEIR MEDICAL EQUIPMENT, SOMETIMES WE'LL NOTICE, UM, THE BATTERY WILL BE, UM, WARMED A TOUCH OR IT MIGHT BE PUTTING OFF A SMELL OR IT APPEARS TO BE SWOLLEN.

AND THOSE ARE SIGNS, ALL SIGNS OF, UH, BATTERIES THAT, THAT NEED TO BE REPLACED.

UH, WHEN YOU'RE DISCARDING, UH, LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT ACCORDING TO MANUFACTURER'S RECOMMENDATION.

THEY DON'T GO INTO THE, UH, THE NORMAL HOUSEHOLD TRASH.

OUR CONVENIENCE CENTERS WILL TAKE THE SMALL LITHIUM ION BATTERIES.

IF YOU APPROACH CONVENIENCE CENTER, JUST APPROACH ONE OF THE, UH, CONVENIENCE CENTER ATTENDANCE, AND THEY'LL DIRECT YOU WHERE YOU CAN TAKE THAT.

NOW, OF COURSE, SOMETHING AS LARGE AS A CAR BATTERY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA TAKE, WE WOULD REFER YOU BACK TO THE, UH, DEALERSHIP FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO THAT'S OUR, UH, FIRE SAFETY, UH, PLUG FOR THE MONTH AND FOR THE YEAR.

UH, FIRE PREVENTION WEEK.

UH, FIRE PREVENTION WEEK IS, UH, COMMEMORATING THE GREAT CHICAGO FIRE FROM 1871.

THAT WAS DEVASTATING TO THE CITY OF CHICAGO.

A LOT ABOUT OUR, UH, FIRE SAFETY CODE AND BUILDING CODES WERE CHANGED AFTER THAT.

AND EVERY YEAR, UH, WE CELEBRATE NOT THE DAMAGE, BUT THE LEARNING LESSONS FROM IT.

AND, UH, WE'RE OUT IN THE SCHOOLS THIS WEEK, UH, COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. WE HAVE OPEN HOUSES THIS WEEKEND, UH, AT COMPANY FIVE AND COMPANY SIX AT, UH, STARTING AT, UH, ONE IN THE AFTERNOON.

UH, AND THEN COMPANY FOUR IS GONNA HAVE A HALLOWEEN OPEN HOUSE, UH, OUT IN THE DRIVEWAY THERE AT STATION FOUR, THE END OF THE MONTH.

SO LOTS OF THINGS GOING ON.

EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT IS ALWAYS BUSY.

UM, EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT COORDINATOR, ROBIN HILLMAN DOES A, A WONDERFUL JOB AND IN THE COMMUNITY, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PREPARED, UM, FOR THINGS THAT CAN OCCUR.

AND WE'VE BEEN WATCHING THE TROPICAL WEATHER AND THANK GOODNESS, UH, THAT'S BEEN, UH, GOING WELL FOR US.

UM, AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, RESCUE, UH, GWIN COUNTY FIRE RESCUE.

UH, RESCUE NEXT YEAR IS CELEBRATING, UH, 60TH ANNIVERSARY, UM, EMS SERVICES, VOLUNTEER RESCUE SQUAD SERVICES STARTED IN THE COUNTY IN 1966, GETTING ORGANIZED INTO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WAS ALREADY IN EXISTENCE.

AND I AM, UH, REALLY PROUD TODAY TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT A NEW PATIENT CARE PROTOCOL THAT WE HAVE PLACED INTO TO SERVICE HERE IN GLAND COUNTY.

AND THAT IS, UH, EMS WHOLE BLOOD, UH, HAVING BLOOD AVAILABLE FOR PATIENTS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HEMORRHAGIC SHOCK THAT ARE BLEEDING.

UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS WILL ABSOLUTELY, UH, SAVE LIVES.

THIS IS A, UM, MONUMENTAL STRIDE OR ADVANCEMENT FOR OUR ORGANIZATION IN ANY EMS SYSTEM, UM, MADE POSSIBLE BY A PARTNERSHIP WITH, UH, CHESTERFIELD FIRE AND EMS AND VIRGINIA STATE POLICE, EMS MEDFLIGHT ONE AIR MEDICAL SERVICE.

UM, AND A NOVA BLOOD SERVICE IS THE SUPPLIER THAT YOU'LL LEARN MORE ABOUT HERE IN JUST A, A MINUTE OR SO.

UM, BUT THAT MAKES THAT POSSIBLE SO THAT WE HAVE A SMALL QUANTITY OF LOW TITER O POSITIVE WHOLE BLOOD, UH, HERE IN GLAND COUNTY ON ONE UNIT, UH, THAT WE CAN TAKE AND MEET AN AMBULANCE THAT HAS A PATIENT THAT MEETS THE PATIENT CRITERIA.

WHENEVER WE LOOK AT A NEW PROTOCOL, UH, AN OUR ORGANIZATION HAS A REPUTATION OF HAVING SOME OF THE MORE ADVANCED EMERGENCY MEDICAL, UH, PROTOCOLS IN THE REGION.

UH, WE LOOK AT THAT FROM A MEDICAL DIRECTION STANDPOINT.

OUR MEDICAL DIRECTOR IS DR.

DUSTIN ANDERSON.

UH, HE'S, UH, A EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIAN IN THE REGION.

OUR ASSISTANT MEDICAL DIRECTOR IS DR.

JOSH LLOYD, UH, ALSO, UM, FROM THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

UH, AND I JUST WANNA TELL YOU THAT WE LOOK AT THAT AND THEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S, UH, THE BEST PRACTICE, UH, PATIENT CARE, THERAPEUTIC MODALITIES, AND ALL OF THAT THAT GOES INTO CONSIDERATION.

UM, AND THESE THINGS ARE POSSIBLE BY THE SKILL OF OUR PROVIDERS AND THE TALENTS OF OUR VOLUNTEER AND CAREER MEMBERS WHO WORK TOGETHER, UH, TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, UH, IN THE COUNTY.

AND CERTAINLY, UH, NOT LAST, AND CERTAINLY NOT LEAST IS CAN WE DO THIS WITH THE, UH, FUNDING THAT WE HAVE? AND I'M HAPPY TO TELL YOU THAT, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CURRENT FUNDING THAT WE HAVE IN THE ORGANIZATION, UH, TO IMPLEMENT THE EMS WHOLE BLOOD UH, PROGRAM.

UH, AND WE'RE GRATEFUL TO YOU ALL FOR PROVIDING THAT FUNDING, UH, TO THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT THROUGH A BUDGET, A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN.

UM, AND OUR PHARMACY PROJECT, QUITE HONESTLY, UH, ASSISTED US WITH, UH, BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP THIS PROTOCOL.

AND SO I THINK THE REST OF IT IS, UM, IS IN THE PRESENTATION.

UH, DEPUTY CHIEF MIKE WATKINS, UH, THE PARAMEDIC AND ALSO A REGISTERED NURSE, WORKS IN A, UM, EMERGENCY ROOM HERE IN THE REGION, IS GOING TO, UH, LEAD YOU THROUGH A SHORT PRESENTATION ON THE, UH, THE WHOLE BLOOD PROG PROGRAM IN THE, UH, DEPARTMENT.

YEAH, THAT'D BE FINE.

IF, UH, IF, IF, IF IT'LL OPEN.

IF NOT,

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WE'RE GOOD.

WE CAN HANDLE IT.

WE'VE, WE CAN DO IT EITHER WAY.

THERE YOU GO.

GOOD AFTERNOON, DEPUTY CHIEF MIKE WATKINS.

UM, I'M REAL EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

AND FIRST OFF, I WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU AND THE PREVIOUS BOARD FOR THE SUPPORT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN TO THE FIRE RESCUE DEPARTMENT.

WE ARE THE TOP END OF EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES IN THE, IN THE REGION.

UH, WE ARE THE ONES THAT CARRY THE VENTILATORS.

WE CARRY IV PUMPS, WE HAVE ADVANCED PRACTICE PROCEDURES.

WE HAVE SOME OF THE SHARPEST PARAMEDICS, UH, IN THE REGION.

UM, AND THIS HAS TAKEN US TO ANOTHER LEVEL.

THIS IS GONNA SAVE LIVES.

I CAN TELL YOU IT HAS SAVED HAVING BLOOD BROUGHT TO THE SCENE HAS SAVED AT LEAST ONE LIFE THIS YEAR IN THE COUNTY, AND PROBABLY WOULD'VE SAVED SEVERAL OTHERS IF WE'D HAD IT AVAILABLE.

WE'VE GIVEN IT TWICE IN THE FIELD BEFORE THE PERSON WAS EVEN LOADED IN THE AMBULANCE.

THIS IS A SPECIAL APPRECIATION.

THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT CHESTERFIELD FIRE.

E-M-S-E-M-S, MEDFLIGHT ONE, UH, THEIR GUIDANCE AND THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE A TEMPLATE TO OPERATE UNDER, UH, PROVIDED US WITH THE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY.

UM, MEDFLIGHT ONE IS KIND OF THE SOURCE LOCATION.

WE TRAVEL THERE TO GET THE BLOOD.

THIS IS OUR BLOOD COOLER.

THIS IS LIVE, THIS IS READY TO GO RIGHT NOW.

UM, IN A MINUTE HERE, IT'S PROBABLY GONNA LAUNCH AND MAKE SOME LOUD NOISES.

AS IT CHARGES BACK UP, WE GET, UH, SOME UNITS OF BLOOD THAT, UM, ARE AVAILABLE TO TREAT THAT PATIENT.

SO WHAT IS HEMORRHAGIC SHOCK? IT'S A RUDE UNHINGING OF THE MACHINERY OF LIFE.

BASICALLY, YOUR BODY STOPS FUNCTIONING AS A RESULT OF LOSS OF BLOOD.

YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY IN TRAUMA.

AND WE THINK OF THE MILITARY EXAMPLE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS COME OUT OF MILITARY LEARNING IN THE PAST 20 YEARS OF WARFARE, THAT WE HAVE TO GET THE BLOOD TO THE PERSON ALMOST AT THE SITE OF INJURY.

OXYGEN STOPS GOING TO THE CELLS, YOUR CLOTTING STOPS WORKING, YOU BECOME COLD, AND YOUR ELECTROLYTES GO OUTTA WHACK, WHICH MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR YOUR HEART TO FUNCTION.

ANY OF THOSE THINGS THAT GO BAD, THE PERSON WILL START, WILL DIE AND DIE QUICKLY.

SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THERE WAS AN INITIATIVE CALLED STOP THE BLEED.

AND THIS WAS AT THE CITIZEN LEVEL.

THIS WAS A BASIC FUNCTION WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE BLEEDING, WE WE'RE FOCUSING ON A LOT OF THINGS IN CPR 20 AND 30 YEARS AGO, AIRWAY AND, AND OTHER THINGS.

WHAT WE DETERMINED IS IF WE DON'T STOP BLEEDING, THE PERSON WILL DIE AVERAGING THREE TO FIVE MINUTES.

THEY COULD BLEED OUT IF IT'S A SIGNIFICANT HEMORRHAGE, AND EVEN UNDER THE BEST OF CONDITIONS, SEVEN TO 10 MINUTES FOR THE FIRST RESPONSE UNITS TO ARRIVE.

WHEN YOU SEE SURVIVAL FROM HEMORRHAGE, IT'S BECAUSE SOMEBODY GOT THERE FIRST APPLIED A TOURNIQUET, APPLIED PRESSURE AND BLEEDING CONTROL AND SAY, STOP THE BLEEDING.

AND THAT'S WHAT MATTERED.

ALRIGHT? THE PATIENT WHO WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER ACTUALLY HAD A TOURNIQUET APPLIED BY A CITIZEN WHO CALLED 9 1 1.

AND THAT PRICE SAVED HIS LIFE.

SO WHY CARRY BLOOD BLEEDING CAN BE RAPIDLY FATAL.

WE HAVE TO RESTORE ALL THOSE FUNCTIONS.

IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS AGO, WE BASICALLY PUT SALT WATER THAT WAS IN A BAG AND PUT IT IN THE PATIENT THOUGHT WE WERE DOING GOOD.

WE STARTED DISCOVERING WE'RE NOT.

WE HAVE TO FIX ALL THESE PROBLEMS, UH, THAT I KIND OF TALKED ABOUT, ACIDOSIS, HYPOTHERMIA, THINGS LIKE THAT, AND HAVING REAL BLOOD THAT WE WARM.

AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WE KEEP IT COLD FOR A WHILE AND THEN WE PUT IT THROUGH A WARMER, UH, TO MAKE SURE WHEN IT GOES INTO THE PERSON, IT'S, IT'S AT, IT'S AT LIFE TEMPERATURE.

THIS IS OUR FIRST UNIT OF, UH, LOW TITER O POSITIVE WHOLE BLOOD.

AS YOU KNOW, THE TYPE O SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THE UNIVERSAL DONOR.

UM, AND THE LOW TITER, LOW CONCENTRATION IS THE, UH, THE BEST CHOICE GIVEN THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE, UH, US POPULATION IS POSITIVE, UH, POSITIVE BLOOD, WHETHER IT BE O POSITIVE, A POSITIVE, AB POSITIVE.

UM, BUT THAT IS OUR FIRST UNIT OF BLOOD.

WE'VE EXCHANGED IT OUT ONCE WITH, UH, WITH MEDFLIGHT SO FAR.

RESPECT.

WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY, THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO CHOOSE NOT TO RECEIVE BLOOD, OR WE DON'T WANNA RECEIVE BLOOD FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER.

AND WE'LL ABSOLUTELY RESPECT THAT.

WE WANNA UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE MET WITH THEM AND UNDERSTOOD THEIR PERSPECTIVES.

AND CONSENT WILL ALWAYS BE OBTAINED PRIOR TO ADMINISTRATION.

WHENEVER PRACTICAL DEPLOYMENT, WE HAVE TWO UNITS.

TWO UNITS IS ABOUT, UH, A LITER OR SO OF BLOOD.

THE HUMAN BODY HAS ABOUT FOUR TO SIX LITERS, DEPENDING ON THE PERSON SIDE.

IT'S GONNA BE ASSIGNED TO A MOBILE RESOURCE WITH REDUNDANT PROCESSES TO MAINTAIN AVAIL AVAILABILITY.

THIS IS A, A BIG ACRONYM, BUT IT, IT MAINTAINS A TEMPERATURE OF 34 TO 42 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT AT ALL TIMES.

NOW, BLOOD CAN GO AS HIGH AS 10 DEGREES CENTER CELSIUS BEFORE IT GOES BAD, BUT WE DON'T WANT IT TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR THAT.

WE HAVE TELEMETRY MONITORING.

WE KNOW WHAT THE TEMPERATURE IS AT ALL TIMES, AND WE CAN BLUETOOTH SYNCHRONIZE TO GET A REPORT FROM THE MACHINE.

BLOOD IS PRECIOUS.

AN EXCHANGE PROGRAM WAS ESSENTIAL TO SUCCESS.

UM, THERE'S NO ONE IN THE RICHMOND REGION THAT WAS WILLING TO GO INTO AN EXCHANGE PROCESS.

AND FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME, I'M O NEGATIVE, WHICH IS A UNIVERSAL DON, THAT'S ESSENTIAL.

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WE'RE NOT GONNA USE BLOOD EVERY SINGLE DAY AND MAYBE ONLY ONCE OR TWICE A MONTH, OR MAYBE NOT EVEN THAT.

WE DON'T WANNA WASTE BLOOD.

WE WANNA BUILD A ZERO WASTE BLOOD SYSTEM SO THAT WE HAVE IT FOR BASICALLY DAY ONE.

WE RECEIVE IT, WE CARRY IT FOR TWO WEEKS, WE RETURN IT TO THE HANGAR AT MED FLIGHT AND THEY SHIP IT BACK TO INOVA.

AND IT IS USED IN A HOSPITAL, ER, IN AN OPERATING ROOM.

AND IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO SAVE LIVES COULD BE SPUN DOWN INTO OTHER ELEMENTS DEPENDING ON THE NEEDS OF THE SYSTEM.

THIS IS THE MODEL THAT IS NATIONWIDE.

UM, WE ARE NOW ONE OF 280 AGENCIES THAT CARRY BLOOD ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UM, WHICH IS AGAIN, A REMARKABLE THING.

AND AGAIN, WE, THIS WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITHOUT YOUR SUPPORT.

UH, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

THIS IS A GREAT PROGRAM.

I KNOW IT'S GONNA SAVE LIVES CHIEF, I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TWO OF THE, UM, UNITS, BOXES.

POTENTIALLY, POTENTIALLY WOULD'VE SAVED MORE.

SO TWO UNITS OF BLOOD AND, AND SO IF SIX NEEDS IT AND THE BLOOD'S AT FIVE, WE HAVE TO TRANSPORT THAT OR HOW, HOW DOES THAT LOOK? IT'S MOVED IN THE SHIFT COMMANDER VEHICLE, THE ON-DUTY SHIFT COMMANDER.

IF THE SHIFT COMMANDER'S NOT AVAILABLE, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE OTHER RESOURCES, IT'S NOT PLUGGED IN.

WE CAN PUT IT IN ANY VEHICLE RIGHT NOW AND TAKE IT WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO.

OH, OKAY.

DO WE NEED MORE? UH, I THINK ONE WE'LL DO FOR NOW, WE'LL GET, LET'S GET OUR, GET, LET'S GET A YEAR OR SO UNDER OUR BELT, MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THINGS.

IF YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THE AIR MEDICAL, UH, STILL BRAINS, BLOOD TO THE COUNTY, AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT BLOOD PRIOR TO THIS AS WELL.

SO ARE THE AIR MEDICAL UNITS, PARTICULARLY MEDFLIGHT, UH, UH, CARRIES, UH, OPO THE SAME TYPE OF BLOOD AND WHEN WE CALL THEM FOR A VEHICLE ACCIDENT, THEY CAN BRING THE BLOOD TO THE SCENE.

UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE'VE HAD CASES WHERE THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE ADMINISTERED IT PRIOR TO EVEN PUTTING IN THE AMBULANCE.

WELL, I, I JUST RECALL YOU SAYING THAT IT'S SAVED ONE LIFE, BUT WE WOULD'VE SAVED MORE IF WE POTENTIALLY HAD IT.

I GUESS THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS IF WE NEEDED MORE THAN ONE.

WELL, THE BIGGEST PIECE IS HAVING IT AVAILABLE.

NOW WE HAVE IT AVAILABLE.

UM, THE INTENT IS, IS THAT IT'S MOBILE, IT'S CENTRAL LOCATED, UH, IN THE EVENING.

SO IT GOES TO THE, THE SHIFT COMMANDER IS THE PERSON WE, WE RELY ON TO GO TO ALL THE BAD CALLS.

THEY'RE GONNA BE THE ONE WHO'S GONNA BE ON TOP OF IT AND MAKE A DECISION.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT WITHOUT, ITS, ITS, ITS COST.

IT'S A PROCESS.

UM, BUT THIS IS HOW, THIS IS THE BEST DEPLOYMENT METHOD.

UH, WHEN WE COMPARE OTHER DEPLOYMENT METHODS.

OURS, IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE DOING.

IT'S USUALLY NOT PUT ON EVERY SINGLE AMBULANCE, AND IT'S BASED ON YOUR CALL VOLUME AND, AND YOUR TOTAL TRAVEL TIME AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT IS BEING USED IN URBAN ENVIRONMENTS WITH, UH, GREAT SUCCESS.

AND WE KNOW THAT IT'LL BE VALUABLE IN A, IN A RURAL ENVIRONMENT WHERE SOMEBODY'S 30, 40 MINUTES FROM THE HOSPITAL, UH, WHERE THEY'RE TRAPPED IN A FARM IMPLEMENT OR OTHER PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

UH, THAT'S THE TYPE OF SITUATION WHERE THIS IS REALLY GONNA MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

MR. CHAIR.

FANTASTIC.

UM, SO, SO MAYBE JUST A, A PLUG FOR WHAT Y'ALL DO.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THESE MEDICAL EMERGENCIES AND LIVING IN A RURAL LOCALITY WHERE HOSPITAL'S NOT CLOSE YOU, THERE'S TWO WAYS YOU TREAT A PATIENT, RIGHT? YOU BRING THE PATIENT TO WHERE THEY CAN GET THE, THE, THE HELP, OR YOU BRING THE HELP TO THE PATIENT.

SO LAST YEAR WHEN I WAS SITTING IN A HOSPITAL ROOM AFTER Y'ALL CARTED ME OUT OF THIS ROOM, UM, IT WAS A ROUGH MEETING.

UM, AND I HAD THREE SETS OF DOCTORS IN MY, IN MY ROOM SAYING I NEEDED IT JUST TO TAKE MEDICINE TO HAVE STINTS IN OR HAVE DOUBLE BYPASS SURGERY.

UM, AND THEY'RE ARGUING ABOUT WHAT TO HAPPEN.

THE, THE DEFINING FACTOR FOR ME, JUST TAKING MEDICINE TO HAVING CRACKED MY CHEST AND DOUBLE BYPASS SURGERY WAS A, THE FACTOR THEY CAME DOWN TO WAS WHERE I LIVED.

AND WOULD I SURVIVE A HEART ATTACK IF MY BLOCKAGES, YOU KNOW, WERE NOT THAT? UM, MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE SAID I WAS IN GLAND AND WE HAVE MUCH BETTER.

UH, SO, UH, BUT I, I WENT THE LONG TERM ROUTE.

BUT PLEASE CONTINUE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO BRING THE, THE, THE SERVICES AND LIFE SAVING TREATMENTS TO OUR FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE RURAL AREAS BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW HOW CRITICAL MINUTES ARE.

WELL, UM, THE LAST PLUG I WOULD OFFER TO THAT IS WE ARE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT INNOVA DOES IS THEY DO BLOOD DRIVES AND WE'LL BE SPONSORING AND, AND ADVERTISING FOR BLOOD DRIVES.

AND THAT TO ME AS AGAIN, AS A, AS SOMEBODY WHO DONATES BLOOD MYSELF A NEGATIVE, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO DONATE BLOOD AND KNOW THAT IT'S GOING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY, BACK TO WHERE I WORK, BACK TO EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES.

I'LL TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, SO OFTEN YOU COULD BE TAKEN FOR GRANTED.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT AWARE, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROFESSIONALISM, YOUR PREPAREDNESS, TRAINING, EXTENSIVE TRAINING AND HARD WORK, DEDICATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YEAH, MR. CHAIRMAN, THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT AND YOUR SUPPORT.

AND I'D JUST LIKE TO RECOGNIZE THE FIRE RESCUE MEMBERS IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY THAT HAVE ALL BEEN WORKING HARD TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE.

UH, MANY OF THEM ARE HERE TODAY AND, UH, IT TAKES, TAKES A TEAM TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

AND WE DIDN'T, WE WANTED TO DO THIS SEVERAL YEARS EARLIER.

WE DID KNOW WHERE THE BLOOD WAS GONNA COME FROM, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU.

UM, AND THEN WE WERE REACHED OUT TO BY CHESTERFIELD FIRE AND EMS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A BLOOD PROGRAM AND MEDFLIGHT AND WANTED AND OFFERED US AN OPPORTUNITY

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TO PARTICIPATE.

SO WE ARE THE FIRST, UH, RURAL AGENCY IN CENTRAL VIRGINIA.

UH, AND ONE OF ONLY A COUPLE THAT ARE DOING THIS RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE, UH, WORKING HARD JUST LIKE WE DID TO TRY TO GET THIS CAPABILITY FOR THEIR JURISDICTION.

AND WE'VE ALSO MADE, UM, THE BLOOD KNOWN TO OUR MUTUAL AID PARTNERS IF THEY WERE TO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INCIDENT IN THEIR COUNTY AND COULDN'T GET A, A HELICOPTER, MAYBE THE WEATHER WAS BAD, THE HELICOPTER COULDN'T FLY, ALREADY BUSY ON THE CALL, THEN, UH, WE CERTAINLY WILL, UH, HELP THEM AS WE DO EVERY DAY WITH THEIR OTHER, UH, EMERGENCIES AND THEY HELP US IN RETURN.

SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU CHIEF.

ALRIGHT, SO, BOARD MEMBERS, BEFORE WE HIT ITEMS THREE THROUGH EIGHT ON THE AGENDA, I WANNA CALL ON AUDIBLE REAL QUICK AND INVITE OUR, OUR PARTNER AND OUR, OUR COLLEAGUE FROM VDOT, UH, PHILIP FRAZIER TO JOIN US.

UH, SO PHILIP HAS TRAVELED FROM, UH, HIS OFFICE TO BE HERE WITH US AND CERTAINLY HAS A LOT OF VALUABLE INFORMATION FOR US.

EVERY MONTH WE GET A CHANCE TO SEE HIM.

AND SO PHILIP, WELCOME.

I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH THE BOARD TODAY.

APPRECIATE THAT.

DR.

RAYLEY, UH, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. CHAIRMAN PHILIP FRASIER WITH VDOT.

UH, I'M GONNA KEEP IT PRETTY SHORT TODAY.

I KNOW LAST, LAST MONTH I CAME AND I GAVE YOU A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF, UH, SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN GUCCI COUNTY REGARDING TRANSPORTATION.

SO, UM, KEEP IT PRETTY SIMPLE.

I WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR MAIN OR OUR MOWING SCHEDULE, UM, FOR THE FALL ON THE SECONDARY SYSTEM IS COMPLETE.

SO, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU'RE SEEING SOME OF THAT GRASS ON THE SHOULDERS CUT DOWN.

UM, WHAT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO IS IF FOLKS NOTICE THAT A ROAD MAYBE GOT MISSED, UH, OR THERE MIGHT BE AN ISSUE, UM, I WOULD ALWAYS ENCOURAGE YOU TO CALL IN THAT, THAT WORK ORDER AT THAT 1 804 ROAD NUMBER.

BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING, MR. LYLE, FEEL FREE, LET ME KNOW.

HAPPY TO WRITE IT DOWN.

MANKIN MANNEQUIN ROAD BETWEEN, UH, MANNEQUIN.

BETWEEN TWO 50 AND, UH, UH, 6 22.

6 6 12.

YEAH, SO SOMETIMES OUR BEST MONITORS ARE CITIZENS, SO THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, THAT'S GENUINE.

UH, SO, UH, THE NEXT THING I WANT TO DO IS INTRODUCTION OF MY NEW STAFF.

SO APPRECIATE Y'ALL DID THAT FOR, FOR YOUR FOLKS.

UM, MOST OF YOU KNOW, MARK HARLOW ON MY, UH, BACK, RIGHT? HE'S, UH, ONE OF THE ASSISTANTS IN MY OFFICE.

HE REALLY, UH, MANAGES THE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.

MY FORMER POSITION WAS AS THE ASSISTANT FOR PROJECT DEVELOPMENT, TRANSPORTATION, KIND OF THE PLANNING EFFORT IN TRANSPORTATION.

SO RIGHT BESIDE MARK IS JESSICA MILLER.

UM, JESSICA JOINS US.

SHE STARTED, UH, ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO.

UM, BEFORE THAT, SHE SPENT ABOUT A YEAR IN THE, UM, OR I'M SORRY, A YEAR.

SHE SPENT 30 YEARS, UH, IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY MANAGING CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, UH, AS A PROJECT MANAGER.

SO, UM, HAS A LOT OF INSPECTION SKILLS, KNOWS HOW THINGS GET BUILT.

SHE'S GONNA BE A GREAT, GREAT PARTNER, UM, TO THE FOLKS IN GOLAND.

SHE'S ALREADY MAKING A, A BIG, UM, UH, IMPACT ON MY TEAM.

SO EXCITED TO HAVE HER, UH, AND JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE HER.

UM, AND THEN THE LAST THING, UH, WELL, I HAVE TWO MORE THINGS.

I DID SEE, UH, WE HAVE SOME ACTION HAPPENING ON 6 23, UH, THE RIGHT TURN LANE TO GO TO I 64 WESTBOUND APPEARS THAT HAS BEEN OPENED UP.

SO HAPPY TO SEE THAT, UH, THE SIGNALS AT ALONG, THE TEMPORARY SIGNALS AT THE EASTBOUND RAMPS ARE UP INSTALLED.

HOWEVER, THEY ARE BAGGED.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THOSE WILL BE UNBAGGED NEXT WEEK WITH AN EXPECTATION THEY'LL BE FULLY OPERATIONAL BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK.

UM, SO LAST THING I HAVE BEFORE I GET OUTTA HERE.

THE MONTH OF OCTOBER INTO NOVEMBER, WE DO A LOT OF PREPARATION FOR THAT S WORD, THAT FOUR LETTER S WORD, UM, SNOW.

SO, UH, WHAT I WOULD PROPOSE TO DO, UH, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE, UM, GETTING CONTRACTORS, UM, UNDER CONTRACT PUSH SNOW FOR US IN A CASE OF EMERGENCY, GETTING OUR ALL HAND STAFF SIGNED UP FOR CERTAIN LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT, UH, OUR FIVE, UH, LOCALITIES THAT WE SUPPORT.

UM, SO, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, WE HAVE A OBLIGATION TO SUBMIT OUR SNOW PLAN TO OUR DISTRICT OFFICE AND UP TO CENTRAL OFFICE, UH, LATER IN THIS MONTH.

SO NEXT MONTH, I THINK IT'D BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY IF WE COME BACK AND FOCUS ON VDO T'S SNOW PLAN FOR GLAND COUNTY, UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, YOU KNOW, A COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW.

SO IF THAT'S FINE BY YOU GUYS, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD PLAN TO, TO COME AND PRESENT ON NEXT MONTH.

UM, AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ME.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM DR.

AILEY? UH, I JUST, I, I DO WANNA SAY THANK YOU.

YOUR TEAM, UH, YOU, YOU WERE CORRECTLY, UH, ENGAGED IN A FOUR YEAR OLD'S BIRTHDAY PARTY, BUT AT, AT THE TOWN HALL THAT WAS HELD IN DISTRICT FIVE, YOUR TEAM SHOWED UP.

THEY WERE THERE, THEY WERE PREPARED.

WE RAN OUT OF TIME, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO ASK ABOUT THE HERMITAGE ROAD, UH, UH, REPAVING, BUT WE GOT THAT ANSWER.

AND I, I JUST SO APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT AND, UM,

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ABSOLUTELY.

WELCOME TO FOLKS.

OH, OH, I DIDN'T HAVE IT ON.

YEAH, WELCOME TO, IS IT JESSICA? IS, YES, SIR.

WELCOME.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH BOTH OF YOU ALL, AND, UH, AND WE APPRECIATE OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH VDOT.

VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT, MR. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, SO BEFORE THE BENEFIT OF OUR PUBLIC, WE DID GET AN UPDATE FROM THE CONTRACTOR WHO'S INSTALLING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL THAT MR. FRASER REFERENCED.

AND SO WE'RE EXPECTING THAT WHEN YOU DRIVE THROUGH THAT AREA ON MONDAY, THAT YOU'LL SEE SOME EQUIPMENT TESTING AND THE FLASHING MODE ACTIVATED ON THOSE LIGHTS.

AND SO WE'RE EXPECTING IF EVERYTHING GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN AND ALL THE SIGNALIZATION IS COMPLETED WITH TIMING, THAT YOU'LL SEE FULL COLOR ACTIVATION AND TEMPORARY SIGNAL STRIPING TAKING PLACE.

SO CONTINUED ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA, AND JUST APPRECIATIVE OF THE COLLABORATION OF VDOT AND ALL THE PARTNERS IN THAT PROJECT.

AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T KNOW, SIX 20 FEET, THAT'S THE ASHLAND ROAD INTERCHANGE, RIGHT? YEAH.

FUTURE HOME OF ARGENT, DIAMOND .

ALSO HAVE AT THE PUBLIC PACKET

UH, SO, SO BOARD MEMBERS, YOU HAVE SEVERAL OTHER PACKETS, UH, REPORTS THAT ARE IN YOUR PACKET.

AND FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC THAT MAY BE LOOKING AT THE AGENDA TODAY.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR, AP STANDS FOR ACCOUNTS PAYABLE FOR SEPTEMBER, 2025.

YOU

[4. AP SEPT 2025]

[5. Planning and Development Activity]

A LIST OF ALL THE PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY.

SO IF OUR CITIZENS ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS TAKING PLACE REGARDING ZONING AND PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S A LAUNDRY LIST OF PROJECTS THAT ARE AT DIFFERENT PHASES, AND THEY'RE ORGANIZED BY DISTRICTS.

SO ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK THOSE OUT.

YOU ALSO HAVE IN

[6. October 7, 2025 Broadband Report]

YOUR PACKET, UH, BROADBAND REPORT AND MR. PAUL DRUMRIGHT, UH, LEADS THAT WORK FOR US IN COLLABORATION WITH FIREFLY AND OUR PARTNERS.

YOU ALSO HAVE AN AGRICULTURAL

[7. October Agricultural Summary]

SUMMARY AUTHORED BY MR. LYLE IN REFERENCE TO, UH, ACTIVITIES THAT ARE TAKING PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE FROM A STAFF LEVEL REGARDING THE REPORTS.

NUMBER FOUR THROUGH SEVEN IN YOUR PACKET.

UH, IS THERE A TIRE RECYCLING EVENT GOING ON? YES, MR. LYLE, THERE IS A TIRE RECYCLING EVENT TAKING PLACE.

I BELIEVE THAT IS NOVEMBER THE 15TH.

15TH NOVEMBER THE 15TH.

AND THAT TAKES PLACE AT THE INTERSECTION OF FAIRGROUNDS ROAD AND SANDY HOOK.

AND WE ARE ACCEPTING AGRICULTURE TIRES AS WELL AS ANY OTHER TIRES FROM AUTOMOBILES.

AND SO WE HAVE A DOCUMENT SHREDDING EVENT TAKING PLACE THAT SAME DAY.

SO THAT'S PART OF THE SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE TO OUR COMMUNITY.

SO NEXT, SANDY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? NEXT, OUR BOARD REPORTS, DO WE HAVE ANY

[8. Board Reports]

REPORTS FROM THE BOARD? UH, I, I HAVE ONE FROM THE RICHMOND REGION TRANSPORTATION PLANNING ORGANIZATION KNOWN AS R-R-T-P-O.

UH, WE MET ON THE SECOND AND, UH, TWO OF THE, UH, DIVERGENT DIAMOND AND THE HARD SHOULDER, UH, EXPANSION PROGRAMS WERE ON OUR AGENDA, OUR CONSENT AGENDA, AND THEY WERE PASSED, UH, UNANIMOUSLY NODE SENT.

SO THAT PROCESS CONTINUES.

I, I HAVE TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO MR. SPOON HOUR.

HIS WORK WITH THE CVTA HAS REALLY, UH, BROUGHT MANY OF THOSE PROJECTS TO THE R-R-T-P-O AGENDA.

AND SO, NEIL, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH, UH, IT'S MOVING SLOWLY, IT IS MOVING, AND SO WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.

UM, WE WILL NOT BE MEETING IN THE MONTH OF NOVEMBER AT THE TPO.

UH, OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE, UM, UH, DECEMBER 4TH, UH, I'LL GIVE A HEADS UP.

NOW, I WILL, UH, BE OUT OF TOWN AT A, UH, FAMILY WEDDING.

SO IF, UH, ONE OF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM AND, UH, FILL IN ON THAT, UH, I'M GIVING YOU, UH, PLENTY OF TIME TO REARRANGE YOUR CALENDAR.

SO YOU'RE UNAVAILABLE.

BUT, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, , YOU'RE UNAVAILABLE.

UH, I DID WANNA MAKE YOU KNOW THAT, UH, I WILL NOT BE ATTENDING THE, UH, DECEMBER 4TH MEETING.

AND THAT'S, UH, THAT'S MY REPORT.

OH, I, I'M SORRY.

BUT ALSO I SPOKE WITH, UH, THE, UH, G-R-T-C-G.

GREATER RICHMOND TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY AND THE MICRO TRANSIT, UH, PROJECT, AS IT MAY APPLY TO THE WESTERN PART OF THE COUNTY.

AND CENTRAL VIR, UH, GLAND IS, IS STILL ON THE DRAWING BOARD.

I ASKED IF THERE DELIVERABLES WE, THE COUNTY ARE, UH, NEEDING TO PROVIDE.

UH, THE ANSWER WAS NO, OTHER THAN TO KEEP THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION OPEN.

SO WE ARE PROCEEDING WITH THAT.

AND I THOUGHT MR. SPOONER HAD A QUESTION THE WAY HE WAS WAIVING HIS CAMP.

NO, I JUST HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

YOU, WELL, ANY COMMENTS I HAVE JUST FROM THE CBTA? SURE.

UM, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

SO, UH, WITH CVTA, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF MO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON, UH, GETTING THE BONDING PROCESS UP AND RUNNING, UH, WHICH WE'RE KEEPING OUR EYES ON VERY CLOSELY, UM, AS YOU KNOW, AND, UH, FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, YOU, DEPENDING ON WHICH SIDE, WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT TAXES.

UM, CBTA HAS RAISED OVER A BILLION.

WE'VE REACHED THE BILLION DOLLAR MARK IN TAX REVENUE RAISE THAT GOES DIRECTLY TO TRANSPORTATION AND TO ROADS.

SO THAT'S A, THAT WAS A HUGE,

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UH, MILESTONE.

ANOTHER MILESTONE THAT I DON'T KNOW IF A LOT OF US HERE, UM, HAVE THOUGHT OF OR TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, BUT, UH, THE FALL LINE TRAIL PROJECT, UM, HAS OPENED UP, UM, FROM ASHLAND INTO, I BELIEVE NORTHERN HENRICO.

IS THAT CORRECT? UM, WHICH IS A, A HUGE DEAL.

THE FIRST, UH, YEAR OR SO THAT THE, UH, CVT WAS UP AND RUNNING, THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT, UM, RATHER THAN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO ALLOCATE THE FUNDS THAT THE FUNDS FROM THE JURISDICTIONS, THAT THE FALL LINE TRAIL IMPACTS ALL OF THAT FUNDING, THE, THE PERCENTAGE THAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE, UH, GO OUT IN A, UH, SORT OF A, A, A COMPETITION FOR THE FUNDS WOULD GO TO THE FALL LINE TRAIL.

UM, IT, EXCUSE MY LANGUAGE, BUT IT'S ONE HELL OF A TRAIL.

IT'S $5 MILLION A MILE.

SO, UH, BUT, UM, THOSE THAT LIKE TRAILS SAY, IT'S PHENOMENAL.

THERE'S A LOT OF WAYFINDING.

IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A, A FANTASTIC THING.

AND AT SOME POINT IT WILL GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO PETERSBURG AND THEY'RE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT THE EAST WEST TRAIL.

SO, UM, IT'S A HUGE, UH, UH, IT'S A HUGE DRAW FOR TOURISM IN, IN THE REGION.

AND THAT, UH, THEY HAD THE GROUNDBREAKING A MONTH AGO.

SO JUST WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT.

UM, AND JUST SO YOU'RE WONDERING, ALL THEIR MONEY WENT TO THAT.

THEY DECIDED THAT THE FUNDS THAT WOULD TOW TO NORMALLY GO TO REGIONAL PROJECTS WOULD COME BACK TO THE LOCALITIES.

SO WE, THE LOCALITIES THAT THE FALL LINE TRAIL DID NOT TOUCH, WE RECEIVED THOSE FUNDS AND HAVE BEEN USING 'EM FOR OUR ROAD PROJECTS.

BUT, UM, THAT'S ABOUT IT.

MR. WELL, THANK YOU.

THE CENTRAL VIRGINIA TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY IS A RELATIVELY NEW ENTITY.

UM, WHAT, 2020? 2020.

2020.

AND TO REACH A BILLION DOLLARS.

AND, AND BASICALLY, I'M STILL LEARNING ABOUT IT, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A TREMENDOUS LEVERAGING, UM, ENTITY, UH, STRUCTURE, I GUESS YOU'D CALL IT, THAT, THAT HAS REALLY BENEFITED GROUPS FROM TREMENDOUSLY.

AND IT MAY BE WORTH TALKING ABOUT WHAT YEAH, YOU MEAN BY LEVERAGING.

SO WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE APPLYING FOR FUNDING, UH, FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, A LOT OF TIMES THERE, THERE ARE SEVERAL CATEGORIES, SAFETY, BUT THEN THERE ALSO, THERE'S ALSO THE COST OF THE PROJECT AND HOW MUCH THE LOCALITY IS WILLING TO PUT UP, UH, FOR THAT.

SO IF THE LOCALITY IS WILLING TO PUT UP MORE MONEY FOR IT, IT SCORES MORE FAVORABLY.

WELL, WHEN WE DON'T HAVE MONEY SET ASIDE FOR TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, IT MAKES IT TOUGH.

AND THE RICHMOND REGION WAS LOSING OUT TO THE OTHER AUTHORITIES, WHICH ARE IN HAMPTON ROADS AND IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA.

SO WHAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO IS WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY AS A COUNTY FOR MONIES TO USE TOWARDS LEVERAGING FOR OTHER FUNDING LIKE SMART SCALE, WHICH HAPPENS EVERY TWO YEARS.

SO SINCE WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT, OUR SUCCESS WITH SMART SCALE APPLICATIONS, WHICH IS ANOTHER FUNDING, UM, POT OF MONEY, HAS RISEN TREMENDOUSLY.

SO WE'VE, UH, WE'VE BENEFITED, AND ACTUALLY IT IS ARGUABLE THAT BECAUSE OF THE, THE 2 88 AND 64 ASHTON ROAD GLAND HAS DONE VERY, VERY WELL AND HAS RECEIVED MUCH IN EXCESS OF A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS OF, UH, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

SO NOW WE JUST GOTTA GET 'EM BUILT, AND IT IS A TAXING AUTHORITY DESIGNATED BY THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF VIRGINIA.

UM, AND THROUGH GAS TAX, WE GET MONEY BACK TO GLAND FOR GAS THAT'S PURCHASED IN GLAND COUNTY.

SO WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO BUY THEIR GAS LOCALLY IN GLAND, BECAUSE IT DOES HELP OUR TRANSPORTATION AND THE 1% SALES TAX, RIGHT? SO BUY, SHOP, AND GAS UP AND GUCCI.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND, YOU KNOW, REMIND EVERYONE OF THAT EVERY CHANCE WE GET BECAUSE IT'S VERY, VERY BENEFICIAL TO US.

ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TODAY.

UM, NOW THE NEXT THING IS A CONSENT AGENDA.

AND DR.

RAIL WILL REVIEW IT AND WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO, UH, PROVE THESE, UH, AS A GROUP OR INDIVIDUALLY AS WE GO, AS HE, AFTER HE GOES THROUGH THEM ALL.

YEP.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SO, BOARD MEMBERS, YOU HAVE FOUR ITEMS

[XI. Consent Agenda]

AND I'LL SUMMARIZE THE FOUR OF THEM QUICKLY.

THE FIRST ITEM

[1. Approval of Assigned Uses of General Fund Balance as of June 30, 2025 for the County's Annual Financial Statements]

ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF ASSIGNED USES OF GENERAL FUND BALANCE AS OF JUNE 30TH, 2025, WHICH ENDED THAT FISCAL YEAR.

AND YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THESE PROPOSED ASSIGNED FUND BALANCES AT A PREVIOUS MEETING, I BELIEVE IT WAS IN AUGUST.

AND SO NOW WE ARE SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL FOR THIS, AND ULTIMATELY, THIS WOULD BE A PART OF YOUR FINALIZED AUDIT, UH, THAT WOULD GO PART OF THAT, THAT PACKET.

THE NEXT ITEM

[2. Authorization for County Administrator to execute an agreement with the Virginia Department of Transportation (VDOT) for Pedestrian Facilities Outside the Right of Way for Mosaic at West Creek Section 6]

IS THE AUTHORIZATION FOR ME AS YOUR COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH VDOT FOR PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES, SIDEWALKS OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR MOSAIC WEST CREEK, SECTION SIX, AS WELL AS SIDEWALKS AND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES FOR WEST CREEK SECTION

[3. Authorization for County Administrator to execute an agreement with the Virginia Department of Transportation (VDOT) for Pedestrian Facilities Outside the Right of Way for Mosaic at West Creek Section 7]

SEVEN AT MOSAIC.

AND THEN THE LAST ITEM

[4. Resolution requesting the Virginia Department of Transportation accept Mosaic at West Creek Section 6 subdivision streets into the Secondary System of State Highways for Maintenance]

ON YOUR CONSENT AGENDA IS TO ACCEPT MOSAIC AT WEST CREEK SECTION SIX.

SO A LOT OF WORK HERE IN MOSAIC, THOSE SUBDIVISION STREETS WOULD BE ACCEPTED INTO THE SECONDARY SYSTEM OF STATE HIGHWAYS FOR MAINTENANCE WITH VDOT.

SO SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL OF THESE FOUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TODAY, DO WE HAVE ANY

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QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, ON, ON THE, UH, ON THE FIRST, WHICH IS THE GENERAL FUND BALANCES, I, I, I THINK WE'RE ABLE TO DO THIS BECAUSE AS A COUNTY, WE'RE RUNNING A SURPLUS.

AND, AND THAT MEANS, UH, WE'RE EFFICIENT.

WE'RE NOT SPENDING EVERYTHING IMMEDIATELY WHEN IT HITS, UH, THE, THE REVENUE STREAM.

AND WE ARE ABLE TO, UH, MAKE THESE TYPE OF INVESTMENTS, ONE OF WHICH IS, UH, FUTURE PROJECT AS WELL AS DEBT SERVICE.

SO, UH, I, I COMMEND THE STAFF, UH, IN TOTAL, BUT DR.

LER, YOUR LEADERSHIP IN MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT BUDGETS OR BUDGETS AND JUST BECAUSE FOR WHATEVER REASON ADDITIONAL REVENUES HAVE HIT THE, THE LEDGER, WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND IT.

WE NEED TO ALLOCATE IT.

AND, UH, IF YOU WILL, PREPAY FUTURE EXPENSES.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT LEADERSHIP, AND WE ARE RUNNING A SURPLUS.

WE, UH, WE LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENS IN WASHINGTON AND DO THE OPPOSITE.

SO, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT.

ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THE BOARD, APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR AS PRESENTED SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED.

NEXT, UM, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO DR.

[XII. New Business]

RAYLEY TO MAKE A SPECIAL PRESENTATION.

[1. Presentation by HBA Architecture on Courthouse Needs Assessment]

YEAH, TH THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND, UH, SO FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND, AND CERTAINLY THE BOARD AND THOSE WATCHING AT HOME, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AS A STAFF WITH OUR, UH, FOLKS WHO OCCUPY THE JUDICIAL SPACES IN THE COURTHOUSE.

UH, OUR CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS AND THE OCCUPANTS OF THOSE SPACES, ULTIMATELY TO DETERMINE THE NEEDS THAT WE HAVE AS A COUNTY WHEN IT COMES TO THE FUTURE OF A COURTHOUSE.

AS I SHARED LAST NIGHT AT OUR TOWN HALL, OUR CURRENT COURTHOUSE HAS SERVED US EXTREMELY WELL.

AND I DARE SAY THAT THERE AREN'T MANY COUNTIES THAT ARE OPERATING A 200 YEAR OLD COURTHOUSE ACROSS THIS NATION.

WE KNOW OF ONLY ONE MORE HERE IN THE COMMONWEALTH.

AND SO, AS WE KNOW, TIMES CHANGE, THINGS EVOLVE WHEN IT COMES TO SECURITY AND SAFETY, AND ULTIMATELY, THE FUNCTIONAL SPACE IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE COURTHOUSE.

AND SO IF YOU GO BACK TO 2021, THIS WAS PART OF A BALLOT INITIATIVE WHERE THIS COUNTY VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY TO SUPPORT FUNDING FOR A NEW COURTHOUSE AND VOTED TO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF DEBT FOR THAT PURPOSE.

AND SO WE ARE NOW AT THE POINT IN TIME WHERE WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO MOVE THAT WORK FORWARD.

UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING AS A STAFF IN COLLABORATION WITH JOE MILLER FROM HBA ARCHITECTURE AND KEITH INTEREST FROM INTERESTS INCORPORATED AIR COURTHOUSE PLANNING CONSULTANTS.

AND SO ULTIMATELY, WE WANNA SHARE THE RESULTS OF THAT NEED ASSESSMENT WITH YOU TODAY.

THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD ON YOUR SEPTEMBER 4TH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN AGENDA, AND WANTED TO TAKE THE NEXT STEPS IN, SHARON, THIS NEEDS ASSESSMENT PUBLICLY TODAY.

SO, JOE.

SPACE NEEDS, WHICH IS SORT OF THE STEP WE'RE IN NOW.

THANK YOU, KEITH.

WELCOME, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I'M JOE MILLER, UH, PRINCIPAL WITH THE HBA ARCHITECTURE WITH IN OUR RICHMOND OFFICE.

UM, AS DR.

AILEY MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED BY THE COUNTY TO COMPLETE AN UPDATE TO A SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY COMPLETED.

UM, WE STARTED THE SPACE NEEDS ASSESSMENT EARLIER THIS SUMMER IN JUNE, UM, AND HAVE FOCUSED MOSTLY ON THE COURT FACILITIES, BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AS WELL.

UM, AND TODAY WE'RE GONNA PRESENT AN OVERVIEW OF, OF THE REPORT.

UM, AS IT STANDS TODAY, WE'VE INCLUDED FENTRESS INCORPORATED ON OUR TEAM AS OUR COURT PLANNING CONSULTANT.

KEITH FENTRESS IS HERE, AND KEITH WILL REVIEW THE SPACE NEEDS PROCESS AND THE, AND THE SUMMARY OF WHERE WE ARE, UH, TODAY.

UM, KEITH AND HIS TEAM ARE NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED COURT PLANNING CONSULTANTS, AND SO WE BROUGHT THEM ON, UM, FOR THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT.

WE'VE WORKED WITH VENTRISS, HBA, HAS WORKED WITH VENTRISS ON OTHER PROJECTS IN CUMBERLAND COUNTY, UH, CURRENTLY WORKING IN THE CITY OF VIRGINIA BEACH IN A COURT STUDY THERE, UM, AS WELL AS WORKING WITH YOU HERE IN IN GLAND COUNTY.

UM, HBA HAS WORKED ON COURTS DESIGN, UM, FOR FACILITIES IN THE CITY OF PORTSMOUTH, UM, AND THE CITY OF SUFFOLK.

AND LET ME, UM, AND FENTRESS HAS WORKED, UM, ON OTHER VIRGINIA COURTS FACILITIES THROUGHOUT, UH, VIRGINIA SUPREME COURT, CITY OF RICHMOND, UH, YORK COUNTY, AUGUSTA COUNTY, AS WELL AS ALL 12 FEDERAL COURTS.

AND THEY HAVE WORKED ON OVER 1200 COURTS FACILITIES NATIONWIDE.

SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO KEITH AND HE CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.

THANK YOU, JIM.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

UM, ONE THING I'VE LEARNED FROM 1200 COURTHOUSES IS EVERY SINGLE ONE IS UNIQUE AND ESPECIALLY YOURS.

UM, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS DEVELOP A PROCESS, AND IT STARTS WITH TRENDS.

SO POPULATION, UH, INCOME.

SO AS TRENDS GROW, WORKLOAD GROWS, WORKLOAD RESULTS IN ADDITIONAL JUDGES AND STAFF, THAT RESULTS IN A NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SPACE.

AND THEN WE HAVE STRATEGIES THAT CAN HELP, UM, DECIDE, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU MIGHT GET THOSE ADDITIONAL

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WE WANT A VERY OBJECTIVE AND DATA-DRIVEN PROCESS, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT, THE SPACE NEEDS TO BECOME WISHLIST.

SO IT'S, IT'S NOT A LIST OF WANTS.

IT'S GROUNDED IN DESIGN STANDARDS.

IT'S GROUNDED IN THE DATA THAT WE'RE GATHERING AND TALKING, UH, TO THE, UM, DEPARTMENTS.

OUR HOPE AT THE END IS TO HAVE A CLEAR JUSTIFICATION FOR THE NEED, UH, OF THE COURTHOUSE.

AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.

SO WITH GLAND COUNTY SPECIFICALLY, WE GATHERED WORKLOAD AND PERSONNEL DATA.

WE DEVELOPED A POWERPOINT.

WE SHARED THAT WITH THE DEPARTMENTS.

WE HAD A VERY OPEN CONVERSATION, A PLANNING PROCESS IN OUR VIEW, REALLY DEPENDS UPON THAT COLLABORATIVE EFFORT.

UH, WE THEN WENT BACK AND FINALIZED THOSE FORECASTS AND NUMBERS.

WE TURNED THAT INTO A, WHAT WE CALL A PROGRAM OF REQUIREMENTS, A DETAILED LIST OF SPACES.

WE THEN MET WITH THEM AGAIN TO HAVE ANOTHER COLLABORATIVE SESSION, UH, ON DETAILING THOSE SPACES OUT AND MAKING SURE THAT IT FIT THE NEEDS OF THEIR WORK AND THEIR WORKFLOW.

AND THEN WE FINALIZED THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU'LL SEE HERE TONIGHT.

UM, WE HAD AN INITIAL DRAFT, AND THEN WE DID SOME RIGHT SIZING, UH, FOR THE PROJECT.

AND THAT RESULTS IN THE NUMBERS THAT WE'LL HAVE HERE SHORTLY.

SO WHY DO YOU NEED A NEW COURTHOUSE? SO YOUR SUCCESSFUL COUNTY, SO YOUR POPULATION IS GROWING, YOUR INCOME IS HIGHER ON AVERAGE, AND YOUR CRIME RATE IS LOW, AND THAT'S GONNA BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE COUNTY, AND OUR BELIEF AND THE BELIEF OF THE FOLKS IN THE COURT SYSTEM.

AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE THAT, UH, THAT GROWTH HAPPENING, IT'S GONNA MAKE, COURTS DON'T MAKE THEIR OWN BUSINESS.

THEY COME TO THE COURTS.

AND AS YOUR POPULATION GROWS, UH, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL JUDICIAL SERVICES, YOUR CURRENT FACILITY, BEAUTIFUL, HISTORIC AND ALL THAT.

BUT IT, IT DOES HAVE A USEFUL LIFE.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF SECURITY RISKS NOW IN HOW YOU TRANSPORT DETAINEES, UH, TO COURT.

UH, HOW YOU DIVIDE THE PUBLIC VERSUS RESTRICTED AREAS IN THE BUILDING.

THE PUBLIC EXPERIENCE SUFFERS BECAUSE IT'S CONFUSING, COMPLEX.

UM, AS A VISITOR MYSELF, UM, I DIDN'T, I WAS THANKFUL FOR THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE THAT ALWAYS POINTED ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WHEN I WAS WANDERING THE CAMPUS.

UM, AND ALSO OPERATIONAL EFFICIENCY.

YOU ARE CARVED UP INTO MULTIPLE LOCATIONS, AND THAT COMES AT THE COST OF MANAGING PEOPLE AND MANAGING FILES, UH, ACROSS DIFFERENT OFFICES.

SO FOR THOSE REASONS, UH, WE STRONGLY FEEL THAT YOU NEED, UH, INVESTMENT IN A NEW COURTHOUSE.

THIS IS OUR SPACE NEEDS SUMMARY.

SO THIS IS THE RESULT AFTER WE PRODUCE THE INITIAL, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, DOWNSIZE AND RIGHT SIZE.

I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN A MOMENT.

UM, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE TOTAL THERE IS ABOUT 75,000 SQUARE FEET, UH, FOR THE FACILITY.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE, UH, THE DIFFERENT COURTS, UH, THAT WILL BE IN THE BUILDING AND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS.

UH, WE HAVE TWO DEPARTMENTS AT THE BOTTOM THERE, CASA, THE SPECIAL ADVOCATES FOR JUVENILES, UH, AND MAGISTRATE.

UH, WE LOWERED THE SIZE OF THE COURTHOUSE A LITTLE BIT, THINKING THAT THEY ARE INSTRUMENTAL IN THE COURT COMPLEX, BUT MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE PART OF THE NEW COURTHOUSE, UH, THAT GOES UP.

WHEN WE FIRST DID, UH, OUR SPACE PLAN, WE HAD, UH, THE VIRGINIA HAS, UM, DESIGN STANDARDS FOR COURTHOUSES THAT ARE PUBLISHED AT ALL.

COURTS FOLLOW THE STANDARDS, PROVIDE A RANGE.

SO WE SORT OF USED THE AVERAGE TO THE UPPER END OF THAT RANGE.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID TO RIGHT SIZE WAS TO USE THE LOWER END, UH, TO GET IT TO BE A SMALLER, MORE AFFORDABLE FACILITY.

UH, WE ALSO FOCUSED ON MULTIPURPOSE SPACES, SO HAVING MORE SPACES THAT COULD BE USED FOR OTHER FUNCTIONS, UH, LIKE THE GRAND JURY, UH, AND JURY ASSEMBLY SUITES, UH, THAT WOULD BE IN THE COURTHOUSE.

I'LL SKIP OVER THIS SLIDE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT HOW LONG.

SO WE DID IN A DETAILED ANALYSIS FOR 20 YEARS, BUT WE REALLY THINK YOU HAVE A 40 PLUS TO 50 YEAR FACILITY THAT WE'RE PLANNING.

WE THINK THAT WAY FOR A FEW REASONS.

ONE IS THERE'S NO, THE CASELOAD IS NOT GOING TO GROW ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY FULL-TIME JUDGES THAT ARE DEDICATED TO YOUR COURT FACILITY FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

UM, SO WE FEEL THE CASELOAD IS GONNA GROW, MORE JUDGES ARE GONNA VISIT, THERE'S GONNA BE MORE PROCEEDINGS, UH, AND UH, THAT ARE GOING AT THE SAME TIME.

AND WE REALLY FEEL THAT, UM, THE FOUR COURTROOM PLAN THAT WE'VE, UH, DEVELOPED, UH, IS GOING TO PROVIDE A COURTROOM FOR EACH COURT AND FLEXIBILITY FOR THOSE VISITING JUDGES THAT WILL BE COMING IN MORE IN THE FUTURE.

AND WE THINK THAT WILL LAST THE COURT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS TO COME.

WE ALSO DID A SIMPLE EXTENSION OF THE STAFF GROWTH BETWEEN 2045 AND 2065, SO ABOUT 20 PEOPLE.

WE TRANSLATED THAT INTO SPACE NEEDS.

IT'S ABOUT 4,800 SQUARE FEET.

WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE ADDITIONAL STORAGE AND FILING SPACE.

UH, THE COURT IS A

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VERY INTENSIVE OPERATION FOR PAPER RIGHT NOW, BUT AS YOU ADD IN, UM, YOU KNOW, ELECTRONIC FILING AND CASE MANAGEMENT, WE'RE HOPING THAT THE PAPER SHRINKS AND THAT THOSE AREAS CAN BE USED IN THE FUTURE FOR STAFF.

THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAS AN INITIAL RAMP UP AS THE FACILITY GETS BUILT TO PROTECT AND SECURE THE FACILITY.

BUT ONCE IT IS BUILT AND OCCUPIED, THEN THEIR REAL SPACE GROWTH COMES, UH, OR STAFF GROWTH COMES IN, UM, ADMINISTERING TO MULTIPLE PROCEEDINGS GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THAT GIVES YOU A VIEW INTO THE FUTURE, AND WE REALLY THINK THE FACILITY CAN LAST, UH, FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, JUST LIKE YOUR CURRENT COURTHOUSE.

JOE, I'LL TURN IT TO YOU FOR NEXT STEPS.

SO WHAT WE'LL DO NEXT IS TAKE THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE GATHERED AND SUMMARIZED IN THE, IN THE SPACE NEEDS.

UM, ASSESSMENT, DEVELOP CONCEPTUAL DESIGNS.

UM, LOOK AT POTENTIAL BUILDING LAYOUTS, POTENTIAL LOCATIONS ON, ON SITE.

UM, ALSO AS PART OF THAT, BE LOOKING AT HOW TO, UM, UTILIZE SPACES THAT ARE VACATED WHEN THE NEW COURTHOUSE IS BUILT.

HOW DO WE UTILIZE SPACES THAT HAVE BEEN LEFT, UH, WITHIN THE COURT COMPLEX.

UM, AS PART OF THAT, WE'LL COME UP WITH MULTIPLE OPTIONS, FIND A DIRECTION WORKING WITH, UM, WITH YOU ALL AND WITH COUNTY STAFF TO DEVELOP A, UM, FINAL OPTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

WE'LL LOOK AT COST ESTIMATES FOR THOSE OPTIONS AT WELL AS WELL.

UM, BUT ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY AN ITERATIVE PROCESS THAT, UM, WILL BE ENGAGED WITH COUNTY STAFF COME BACK TO THE BOARD WITH, WITH UPDATES AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PROCESS.

YOU'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I'VE GOT, SURE.

COACH JONATHAN.

UM, JUST FORWARD LOOKING IN THE EVENT, SAY 20 50, 20 60, WE RUN OUTTA SPACE.

WHAT IS THE LOCALITY DO? DOES, WOULD YOU BUILD ANOTHER COURTHOUSE AND FOR SAY, JUVENILE THAT SEPARATE IT OUT TO LIKE A JUVENILE COURTHOUSE OR, UH, GOOD QUESTION.

AS WE ARE LOOKING AT CONCEPTS OF HOW TO DEVELOP THIS COURTHOUSE BASED ON THE CURRENT SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, WE'LL ALSO LOOK AT, LOOK AT WAYS, UH, UH, TO EXPAND THAT.

UM, ARE THERE OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPANSION OF THE BUILDING, UM, ON THE CURRENT SITE? UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEITH TALKED ABOUT IS STAFFING.

YOU KNOW, WE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE STAFF WITHIN THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT BY CREATING A FLEXIBLE SPACE THAT WE CAN, OR SPACES THAT WE CAN ADAPT EASILY IN THE FUTURE.

BUT I THINK LOOKING AT HOW THE BUILDING COULD BE EXPANDED ON THE SITE IS, IS PART OF THAT PROCESS AS WELL.

AND, AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

UH, THE COURT ROOMS, THEY'RE NOT SPECIFIC, SO IF THERE'S NOT, SAY A JUVENILE OR A CIRCUIT COURT CASE, ANOTHER COURT COULD USE THAT, THAT COURTROOM, YOU KNOW, IF THE CASELOAD ON ON ONE COURT IS LARGER THAN THE OTHER, LIKE THESE COURTROOMS ARE INTERCHANGEABLE IF NEEDED.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

I'LL LET, KEITH, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE? TO AN EXTENT? AND LET ME EXPLAIN.

SO SIR, COULD YOU STEP TO THE MIC SO FOLKS ONLINE CAN HEAR? THANKS.

UM, LET ME EXPLAIN SO TO, TO AN EXTENT THAT'S TRUE, BUT, UM, LIKE THE CIRCUIT COURT IS GOING TO HAVE THE NEED FOR JURY FACILITIES AND YOU WOULDN'T WANNA BUILD THE JUVENILE COURTROOM OUT TO HAVE JURY FACILITIES.

IT CAN BE A SMALLER AND MORE AFFORDABLE SPACE.

UM, BUT THIS FOURTH COURTROOM THAT WOULD BE FLEXIBLE WOULD BE BUILT TO BE SHARED.

SO IF THE GENERAL DISTRICT COURT NEEDED SPACE, OR THE CIRCUIT COURT OR J AND DR, THEY COULD ALL USE THAT COURTROOM AS JUDGES CAME IN.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THERE, AS JOE SAID.

UM, BUT THEY DO HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF COURTROOMS FOR THEIR DIFFERENT PROCEEDING TYPES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

THE TYPE OF FACILITY IN TERMS OF QUALITY, UM, MATERIALS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

UM, IT, IT WAS REFERENCED EARLIER, WE, UH, UH, HAD A BOND REFERENDUM AND, UM, WE SEEMED TO HAVE AMAZINGLY UNDERESTIMATED WHAT WOULD BE NEEDED BOTH FOR THE SCHOOLS AND, UH, FOR THE COURTHOUSE AND THE FIRE STATIONS.

HAVE WE GOTTEN WITHIN SHOUTING DISTANCE OF PUTTING SOME NUMBERS TOGETHER AS TO WHAT THIS RIGHT SIZING THAT'S BEEN REFERENCED A COUPLE TIMES THAT WE, WE STARTED BIG AND THEN WE WENT SMALL, AND THEN WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE AS TO, OR IS IT PREMATURE TO SAY, OH, IT'S GOING TO BE X OR X PLUS OR X SQUARED? YEAH, I THINK, UM, WHAT AS TYPICALLY AS PART OF THE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PROCESS, WE'LL LOOK AT NOT ONLY WE'LL IDENTIFY PARAMETERS FOR THE, FOR THE FACILITY AS WELL, SO THE SIZE OF THE FACILITY, WE'LL ALSO LOOK AT, UM, DESCRIPTION OF

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THOSE ALL IMPACT COST PER SQUARE FOOT.

AND SO YES, I THINK WE'RE A LITTLE BIT PREMATURE, BUT THAT CERTAINLY IS PART OF WHAT WE LOOK AT AS WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT, THE NEXT STEP IN CONCEPTUAL DESIGN.

SO THAT'S, SO THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.

UM, SO MAYBE PROCEDURALLY I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING THE PROCESS BECAUSE IN OUR TWO BY TWOS, WE WERE PROVIDED THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF, OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO.

NOW WE'RE PRESENTED WITH ONE.

AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT A DECISION WAS MADE OR LIKE, SO HOW DID WE GET TO HERE? YEAH, THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL DRAFTS OF THIS DOCUMENT, UH, TO PREPARE FOR TODAY.

AND ONE OF THE PREVIOUS DRAFTS DID HAVE A COUPLE OPTIONS.

AND SO UPON CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, UH, SOLIDIFIED THAT FOR A PRESENTATION TODAY.

AND, AND RATHER THAN HAVING THREE OPTIONS, THIS ONE, BUT ULTIMATELY THE OPTION THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY FOR CONSIDERATION COULD BE ADAPTED AND ADJUSTED BASED ON OCCUPANTS AND FUTURE DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD.

SO WHICH OPTION WAS THIS? THIS WAS OPTION THREE.

THIS WAS THE GREATEST OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE , WELL, IT LARGEST.

THIS OPTION AS PRESENTED HAS ALL OF THE COURT OCCUPANTS, INCLUDING THE COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEY AND ALL ASSOCIATED SUPPORT SYSTEMS UNDERNEATH ONE ROOF, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TWO ENTITIES BEING CASA.

AND THE OTHER ENTITY YOU SEE LISTED AT THE BOTTOM, IT'S, IT'S NOT MAGISTRATE MAGISTRATE, THE MAGISTRATE AND CASA BEING IN A SEPARATE FACILITY, BUT THIS OPTION DOES IN FACT HAVE EVERYBODY UNDER ONE ROOF.

BUT IF THERE WERE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE TO THE CONTRARY, THEN THAT WOULD REDUCE THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE NEED.

I JUST, TWO MORE QUESTIONS YEAH.

SLASH COMMENTS.

UM, AS YOU'RE DOING THE DESIGN PIECE, UM, ARE WE, WE, WE SPENT A, A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON THE COURTHOUSE, SMALL AREA PLAN FOR THIS AREA.

HAS THAT BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE, AS WE MOVE TO WHAT WE'RE SORT OF LOOKING TO, TO MAKE THAT, THAT'S GONNA BE THE FOCAL PART OF OUR, OF THE CENTER OF OUR COUNTY? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

WE HAVE THAT, WE HAVE THAT, UM, RESOURCE AVAILABLE TO US, AND SO WE'VE STUDIED THAT, AND AS WE GET INTO DESIGN, THAT'LL BE, THAT'LL BE INCORPORATED AS WELL.

AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION, THE, UH, YOU'D MENTIONED WE'RE LOOKING FOR SPACE NEEDS 20 YEARS OUT.

I, IF MY NEW SHED IS IN ANY INDICATION, IF I BUILD IT, I WILL FILL IT.

SO WHAT IS TO, I, I SEE THIS AS WE'RE GONNA BUILD IT FOR 20 YEARS OUT.

I BET IN 20 DAYS IT'S GONNA BE OCCUPIED.

HOW DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU, HOW DO YOU MANAGE THAT? SO AGAIN, THAT'S A, THAT'S A DESIGN, UM, UM, ISSUE THAT WE'LL DEAL WITH DURING THE DESIGN.

BUT I THINK, AS I SAID EARLIER, HAVING HAVING A, A FACILITY THAT IS FLEXIBLE, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE THINGS AROUND TO ACCOMMODATE NEEDS AS THEY CHANGE MM-HMM .

SO IN 10 YEARS, THE NEEDS MAY BE DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE NOW IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF PERSONNEL OR, UM, JUST STORAGE SPACE AND THAT SORT OF THING.

AND SO HAVING FLEXIBILITY IN THE, IN THE DESIGN, UM, AVAILABLE TOO US WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THAT.

TAKE INTO ACCOUNT IN THIS PROJECT THAT WE THINK THAT THE FILING AND STORAGE NEEDS WILL REDUCE OVER THE FUTURE AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE 20 PEOPLE.

'CAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE IF THOSE 20 ADDITIONAL PEOPLE ARE NEEDED WHEN THEY'RE NEEDED, I DOUBT THAT SPACE IS GOING TO BE THERE FOR THEM OR BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA BE UTILIZED AGAIN.

I THINK THERE ARE WAYS TO, TO MOVE THINGS AROUND OKAY.

AND ADJUST THINGS GREAT AS THE NEEDS CHANGE.

SO WE CERTAINLY WOULD DESIGN FACILITIES THAT HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY.

I I'M NOT GONNA GET THE NUMBER EXACTLY RIGHT, BUT I'LL JUST ROUND TO SAY, WITH 1200, UH, COURTHOUSES UNDER YOUR BELT, WHAT ARE WE DOING THAT YOU WOULD WISH WE WEREN'T DOING? UH, ARE WE GETTING CLOSE TO THE THIN ICE AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS GREAT, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO REGRET IT.

UH, OR, OR, I, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING YOU'RE DOING THAT I WISH YOU WEREN'T DOING.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING IT RIGHT.

THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A TEAM WITH COURTS EXPERIENCE THAT CAN HELP GUIDE YOU ON BEST PRACTICES, I SEE ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, INNOVATIVE THINGS IN COURTS AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM COST QUITE A BIT OF MONEY.

AND WE, WE TRY TO KEEP IT VERY REALISTIC TO THE STANDARDS AND NOT TO ADD OPULENCE, UH, TO THE PROJECT.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COURT ITSELF IS NOT VERY TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED.

UM, MAYBE THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY THING.

THERE ARE MANY OTHER COURTS OUT THERE THAT ARE USING TECHNOLOGY.

IT'S NOT THAT THE FOLKS THERE ARE USING THEIR TECHNOLOGY JUST FINE.

UH, BUT OTHER SYSTEMS HAVE HAD MAJOR INVESTMENT IN TECHNOLOGY FOR ELECTRONIC FILING, PUBLIC KIOSK, UH, ONLINE SERVICES, CASE MANAGEMENT, AND ALL OF THAT.

SO VIRGINIA IS ROLLING THAT OUT, AND THE COURTS HERE ARE ON A SCHEDULE FOR THAT.

UH, SO IT WILL BE COMING IN THE FUTURE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO

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AND I, I DON'T WANT TO, I, I'M, I'LL BE THE LAST PERSON TO SAY OVERBUILD.

UM, I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND THAT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I DON'T WANT US TO BE SKIMPING ON THINGS SO THAT WE'RE NOT WILDLY PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE BUILT FOR OUR CITIZENS AND FOR THE NEXT 50, 60, 70 YEARS.

SO I I, I DO THINK THIS IS, THIS IS A GENERATIONAL INVESTMENT AND WE SHOULD TREAT IT AS SUCH.

THE, THE REASON I ASKED MY QUESTION IS THAT IN TALKING WITH SOME OF THE CONSTITUTIONAL OFFICERS, THEY'VE BEEN TOURING COURTHOUSES MM-HMM .

THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN BUILT.

AND THE, THE ANECDOTAL WAS THAT WHEN THEY SPEAK TO THE NEW COURTHOUSE RESIDENTS, IT'S LIKE, OH, WE WISH WE HAD KNOWN OR WE WISH WE HAD DONE DIFFERENTLY.

AND, AND YOU'VE GOT 1200 OF THESE THINGS UNDER YOUR BELT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KEEP A PUNCH LIST OF, YOU KNOW, 900 OF 'EM WISH THEY HAD DONE THIS.

AND, AND I MEAN, TO NEIL'S, MR. SPOON HIRE'S POINT, WE, IT'S GONNA BE MULTI-GENERATIONAL AND WE'D LIKE TO DO IT AS GOOD AS WE CAN WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WILL, INVESTING THE WHOLE FARM IN BUILDING THIS THING.

NO, I, I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT AND MY, I WON'T REALLY WANNA SUPPORT JOE'S ANSWER THAT MULTI-PURPOSE SPACE.

SO MANY COURTHOUSES BUILD SINGLE PURPOSE SPACES THAT YOU CAN ONLY USE FOR ONE THING.

AND WE SEE THAT AS, YOU KNOW, REGRET, UH, IN COURTHOUSE PROJECTS WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO USE IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

COURTHOUSES NOW ARE BEING BUILT WITH LOBBIES THAT CAN, YOU KNOW, SERVE AS PUBLIC FUNCTIONS, UH, PUBLIC, UM, PLACES OF, YOU KNOW, UH, GATHERINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT ARE VERY, VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE COURTHOUSES OF OLD.

UH, SO, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT ARE, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T WANNA PUSH IT FURTHER OUT, BUT WE'RE DOING THE PLANNING AND GETTING THE BASIC NUMBERS THAT SORT OF INNOVATION AND WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT WILL COME THROUGH THE DESIGN EFFORT.

UM, YOU PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, WE DO, WE ARE WORKING WITH A COURT NOW IN VIRGINIA THAT DID OVERBUILD, AND SO IT'S A BLESSING WHEN THEY DO THAT.

THEY HAD TO AFFORD THAT.

THEY OVERBUILT FOR TWO COURTROOMS AND NOW THEY'RE JUST EXPANDING INTO THAT SPACE.

UM, THEY'RE A BIG COURT.

UM, SO IT IS A BLESSING, BUT I THINK WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS TO BUILD FOR THAT 20 YEAR POINT TO GET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION AND HAVE GROWTH AND FLEXIBILITY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME VISITING OFFICE SPACES THAT CAN BE CONVERTED THE FULL-TIME PEOPLE FOR THE FUTURE AS WELL AS THIS FLEXIBLE COURTROOM THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

BUT AGAIN, THE HOPE IS THAT THE SPACE WILL SHRINK FOR FILING BECAUSE ELECTRONICS WILL COME IN, AND WE'VE SEEN THIS IN MANY COURTS THAT THEY HAD FILING ROOMS OF SEVERAL THOUSAND SQUARE FEET AND NOW THEY'RE BASICALLY EMPTY BECAUSE THEY HAVE MOVED TO ELECTRONIC FILING.

SO WE REALLY THINK THAT'S GONNA BE THE WAY, YOU DON'T NEED A TON OF SPACE ADDITIONAL TO GET YOU THAT NEXT 20 YEARS.

UH, SO WE THINK IT WILL BE IN THE FILING AND STORAGE WILL BE REDUCED.

RIGHT.

UM, WELL, MR. MR. SPIN WAS GONNA HAVE A FOLLOW UP.

I THOUGHT I WAS JUST GONNA, MR. CHAIR.

YEAH, GO AHEAD.

UM, BEYOND THE COURTHOUSE, WE'VE, WE'VE ALL HEARD WE HAVE THE SPACE NEEDS FOR COUNTY ADMINISTRATION FOR THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING READY TO TALK ABOUT.

SO IF Y'ALL COULD ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SO IS THAT, I'M, I'M HOPING WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS IN A VACUUM OF JUST THE COURTHOUSE, BUT HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO THE OVERALL SPACE NEEDS? I NOTICED YOU HAD IT AS A LINE ITEM ON ONE OF YOUR YEAH.

SLIDES.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, WE'VE GATHERED INFORMATION FOR SPACE NEEDS FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTY FACILITIES.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE, UM, SUMMARIZING ALL OF THAT DATA.

AND IT DEFINITELY WILL BE A PART OF, AS WE LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE, OBVIOUSLY THE COURTHOUSE IS SORT OF A STANDALONE THING, BUT WE'LL LOOK AT UTILIZATION OF SPACE NOT ONLY IN OTHER COUNTY FACILITIES, BUT IN COURT FACILITIES THAT WILL BE VACATED AS WELL.

AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THEY, THEY WILL MESH TOGETHER, NOT NECESSARILY ABANDONED SPACE, BUT VACATED SPACE VAC AS THEY MOVE INTO THE, CORRECT.

THINGS THAT WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA STORE, I'M ANTICIPATING.

SO, AND, AND, AND MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, JUST JUST TO CONFIRM, AND I SEE OUR CLERK IS HERE, OUR SHERIFF'S HERE, OUR COMMONWEALTH'S ATTORNEYS HERE, AND THEY'RE PART OF THE TEAM.

I, I DO KNOW OUR CLERK HAS HAD TO COME AND, AND THE STATE HAS MANDATED, I'M GONNA GET THIS WRONG, AMANDA SEALED RECORDS WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO DO THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO DO.

AND, UH, MR. LIN, WHO WAS WITH THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY WAS HERE EARLIER.

I KNOW WE WILL NOT ABANDON ANY OF OUR HISTORICAL RECORDS THAT, UH, ARE ARE JUST PART OF WHO GLAND IS.

SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE HEARING THAT IT'S ALL GONNA BE ON THE CLOUD.

UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE'VE GOT SOME HARD COPY

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AND SO THOSE SPACE NEEDS ARE NEVER GONNA GO AWAY.

AND I GUESS I'M JUST CONCERNED WE WILL UNDER BUILD AND THAT 20 YEARS IS GONNA BE A TWO YEAR WE'RE OUTTA SPACE.

AND, AND, AND, AND TO MR. SPOONER'S COMMENT, I DON'T WANT US TO OVERBUILD, BUT GOLLY, NED, YOU KNOW, UNDERBUILDING CAN BE AS MUCH A ISSUE.

WE, WE JUST NEED Y'ALL TO BRING THIS IN AT ABOUT $400 A SQUARE FOOT, UH, AND WE CAN AFFORD IT.

WELL, YOU'RE AWFUL GENEROUS, MR. CHAIR.

I WAS THINKING 200 .

I UNDERSTAND THIS COULD BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT.

MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR.

I'VE GOT A, A COMMENT TO MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS.

UH, WE NEED TO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A COURTHOUSE AND WE SHOULDN'T EXPAND IT TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN A COURTHOUSE JUST BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF COURT.

SO JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.

SURE.

ALRIGHT, GOOD, GOOD REPORT.

THANK YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING FOR US.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER PROGRESS.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.

POINT, WE WILL TAKE A DINNER BREAK AND RECESS AND BE BACK HERE AT SIX O'CLOCK.

THANK YOU, ALLALL.

I'M EXCITED.

UM, AND THAT'S IT FOR, UH, FOR THE BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS AFTERNOON SESSION.

AT THIS

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THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

WELCOME.

UM, I THINK WE ARE DEALING WITH THE CAPACITY CROWD, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PAYING ATTENTION, SO WE DON'T OVERLOAD, BUT I THINK WE'RE ALL RIGHT.

UM, AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO

[XV. County Administrator's Comments]

DR.

JEREMY RAYLEY FOR HIS COMMENTS.

YEAH, YEAH.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO EVERYBODY WHO IS HERE THIS EVENING.

AS MR. WINFREY SAID, WE DO HAVE SOME OVERLOAD OVERFLOW SPACES.

WE'RE GOING OPENING UP ANOTHER CONFERENCE ROOM HERE IN THIS VICINITY.

OF COURSE, THE DOORS ARE OPEN FOR OUR FOLKS WHO ARE OUT IN THE HALLWAY, AND THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT IN THIS ROOM ADJACENT TO US HERE IF YOU WANT TO, UH, HAVE A SEAT AS WELL.

SO, UH, WELCOME AND, AND WE'RE REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'RE HERE.

SO, JUST A COUPLE ANNOUNCEMENTS BEFORE WE JUMP INTO OUR AGENDA.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE SHARED A LITTLE BIT WITH OUR DAY MEETING TODAY.

OUR GLAND COUNTY PARKS AND RECREATION IS HOSTING ITS ANNUAL FALL FESTIVAL ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER THE 25TH.

THAT'S HERE IN THE COURTHOUSE AREA AT THE OLD GLAND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TAKE PLACE FROM 11:00 AM TO 2:00 PM WELCOME TO BRING YOUR FAMILY.

BE THERE TO ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL FALL WEATHER THAT WE HAVE.

WE'LL HAVE COSTUME CONTESTS, LIVE MUSIC VENDORS AND MORE.

WE'RE ALSO HOST A TRICK OR TREAT EVENT TAKING PLACE HERE AT THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING.

AND JUST A REMINDER THAT WE HAVE OUR OFFICES THAT WILL BE CLOSED ON TUESDAY, NOVEMBER THE FOURTH FOR ELECTION DAY.

THE NEXT MEETING OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 6TH, 2025.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UM, NEXT WE HAVE CITIZEN COMMENT, PERIOD.

WOULD YOU MIND READING THE, THE RULES FOR US, DR.

RAYLEY? SURE.

HAPPY TO.

AND SO, UH, AS ALWAYS, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WELCOMES PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND SO THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENTS SECTION THAT WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA TODAY ARE FOR ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON OUR AGENDA FOR HEARING TONIGHT.

AND SO, UH, WE CERTAINLY WELCOME FEEDBACK ON ISSUES THAT ARE NOT ON THEIR AGENDA.

THE BOARD INTENDS TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT TO LAST NO MORE THAN ONE HOUR.

AND SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD TO HEAR FROM OUR CITIZENS.

SO IN FRONT OF YOU, WE HAVE A PODIUM THAT HAS A LIGHT AT THE TOP.

AND SO WHEN YOU START TO SPEAK, YOU MAY SPEAK FOR UP TO THREE MINUTES, THE LIGHT WILL GO OFF, THAT'S GREEN, AND THEN AS YOU PROGRESS THROUGH YOUR REMARKS, IT WILL TURN TO YELLOW WITH ONE MINUTE LEFT TO SPEAK.

THE SECOND YELLOW LIGHT WILL COME ON AND IT WILL CONTINUOUSLY BLINK.

IT SAYS YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT TO SPEAK, AND WHEN THE RED LIGHT COMES ON, YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP.

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK LONGER THAN THREE MINUTES, YOU MAY EXTEND YOUR TIME BY HAVING ANOTHER RESIDENT COME UP, GIVE THEIR NAME AND SEED THEIR TIME TO YOU.

IF THAT IS DONE, YOUR TEAM, YOUR TIME IS INCREASED BY TWO MINUTES FOR EACH PERSON WHO DOES SO UP TO A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES.

SO WHEN YOU COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE ANNOUNCE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS BEFORE YOU START YOUR COMMENTS.

I'LL NOW OPEN THE, UH, CITIZEN COMMENT PERIOD, AND ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD.

[XVI. Citizen Comment]

IT'S A HIT THE SWITCH ON THE MICROPHONE.

THERE YOU GO.

TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO RECRUIT AND INCENTIVIZE COMPANIES THAT THE PEOPLE OF GWIN HAVE SAID THEY DO NOT WANT? WHY WOULD YOU BELIEVE THAT DATA CENTERS ARE COMPATIBLE WITH M1 ZONING ORDINANCES, WHICH ALLOWS THE USES TO ONLY DETRACT FROM RESIDENTIAL DE DESIRABILITY, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHY RISK DESTROYING THE VERY QUALITIES THAT MAKE UCHIN A WONDERFUL PLACE TO LIVE? SUPERVISORS, THIS PROPOSAL DOES NOT REPRESENT PROGRESS.

MY NAME IS LAWRENCE FRANK AND I LIVE AT 1 2 1 6 2 READERS POINT DRIVE IN MANNEQUIN SABOT, AND HAVE BEEN A PROUD GLAND RESIDENT SINCE 2002.

I WANNA EXPRESS MY SURPRISE AND DEEP CONCERN FOLLOWING THE RECENT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS REGARDING THE PROPOSED TOD.

AFTER TWO FULL EVENINGS OF CITIZEN COMMENTS, EVERY SINGLE ONE IN OPPOSITION, THE COMMISSION NONETHELESS VOTED TO RECOMMEND MOVING THIS PROPOSAL FORWARD.

NOT ONE EXPERT SPOKE IN FAVOR OF IT.

IN FACT, EVERY EXPERT WHO SPOKE SHARED THE CITIZEN'S CONCERNS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL AESTHETIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY IMPACTS.

THE COUNTY, ON THE OTHER HAND, HAS PROVIDED NO INDEPENDENT EXPERT TESTIMONY TO JUSTIFY PROCEEDING.

NOW, I RECOGNIZE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS PURELY ADVISORY AND IS NOT REQUIRED BY LAW TO JUSTIFY ITS RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT GIVEN SUCH OVERWHELMING PUBLIC OPPOSITION, THE QUESTION WE ALL MUST ASK IS A VERY SIMPLE ONE.

WHY, AS YOU CONSIDER THIS ISSUE, UH, OVER IN AHEAD OF NEXT MONTH'S MEETING, I HOPE YOU'LL TAKE SOME TIME TO REFLECT ON A FEW QUESTIONS.

FIRST, WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO REMOVE THE CURRENT HEIGHT LIMITS AND PARKING REQUIREMENT RESTRICTIONS THAT HAVE EFFECTIVELY KEPT DATA CENTERS OUT BUSINESSES THAT CITIZENS OVERWHELMINGLY OPPOSE? TWO, WHY WOULD YOU CONSIDER USING

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IT REPRESENTS A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT AWAY FROM THE BALANCED COMMUNITY FOCUSED GROWTH THAT IS ALWAYS DEFINED GLAND.

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME BEFORE NEXT MONTH'S MEETING TO LISTEN TO THE CITIZENS YOU REPRESENT, REJECT THIS PROPOSAL, PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, AND PRESERVE GLIN AS WE ARE PROUD TO CALL HOME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND SERVICE.

YES, THANK YOU.

WOULD IT BE FAIR FOR ME TO ASK THAT WE HOLD OUT APPLAUSE BECAUSE WE WE DO HAVE A, WE WE DO HAVE A TIME LIMIT AND IT DOES TAKE PEOPLE'S TIME THAT OTHERWISE WOULD BE, UH, ALLOW THEM TO SPEAK.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

GO AHEAD.

I'M DAVID LEARY FROM 1 7 7 WOODFORD IN THE WEST OAK SUBDIVISION OF DISTRICT FIVE.

FIRST, I, I DO SINCERELY WANNA THANK YOU BOARD MEMBERS FOR BEING HERE TO LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

ONCE AGAIN, IT CAN'T ALWAYS BE EASY AND COMFORTABLE.

AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL THOSE WHO SPOKE UP AT LAST NIGHT'S TOWN MEETING, UH, AGAINST THE PROSPECT OF A MEGA DATA CENTER HERE IN GLAND COUNTY.

IT WAS EASY TO SEE YOUR ANGUISH AND YOUR DEEP CONCERN ABOUT OTHERS AND ABOUT THE COUNTY AS WELL AS ABOUT YOURSELVES.

I WON'T REPEAT WHAT I SAID LAST NIGHT IN OPPOSITION TO THE CONSTRUCTION OF A DATA CENTER.

INSTEAD, I WANT TO SIMPLY TO ASK A SINGLE QUESTION AND THEN ASK EACH OF YOU MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO RESPOND TO IT.

MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE BEST POSSIBLE REASON OR REASONS FOR APPROVING A TOD PROPOSAL THAT WOULD ALLOW THE CONSTRUCTION OF A DATA CENTER IN GLAND COUNTY AND TO GET THE BEST POSSIBLE RESPONSES? I WANT TO INSIST THAT YOU DO NOT TELL US WHETHER YOU PERSONALLY ARE LEANING THIS WAY OR THAT NO MATTER WHAT YOUR OWN DEVELOPING OR ESTABLISHED POSITION MAY BE, JUST TELL US WHAT YOU THINK IS THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE ARGUMENT IN FAVOR OF CONSTRUCTING A DATA CENTER IN GLAND COUNTY.

I I THINK THIS MIGHT HELP THE DISCUSSION MOVE FORWARD.

MAY I ASK THAT OF YOU? UH, NO.

WE ARE HERE TO LISTEN TO YOU TONIGHT.

WELL, LET ME A DEBATE, LET ME ASSUME THAT THE ANSWER IS THAT MONEY IN THE COFFERS OF THE COUNTY AND OF VARIOUS WEALTHY LANDOWNERS, MOST OF WHOM DO NOT LIVE IN GLAND AND IN FACT SOME OF WHOM LIVE IN HENRICO COUNTY, WHICH HAS JUST REJECTED THE POSSIBILITY OF A FUTURE DATA CENTER.

AND TO BE FAIR, I WANNA SAY THAT, UH, AMONG THESE LANDOWNERS THAT I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE ARE SOME, IT MAY BE ALL WONDERFUL PEOPLE AND SOME HAVE DESERVED OUR THANKS FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE FOR THIS COUNTY.

THIS IS WHAT I THINK MAKES IT TRICKY FOR YOU IS I'M JUST GUESSING, BUT THIS MAY BE SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR YOU.

THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SUPPORTED OUR COUNTY AND YET THEY STAND, THEY FOR WHATEVER THE REASONS THEY, THEY HAVE.

UH, AN INVESTMENT IN THIS, IF THIS IS IN FINANCIAL INCENTIVE, UH, IS MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU INVE SUPERVISORS THAN THE QUALITY.

UH, THE QUESTION IS, IS THIS FINANCIAL INCENTIVE MORE IMPORTANT TO YOU SUPERVISORS THAN THE QUALITY OF LIFE, PHYSICAL HEALTH, PEACE OF MIND, PROPERTY VALUES AND PREFERENCES OF A LARGE NUMBER OF YOUR FELLOW COUNTY RESIDENTS? AS YOU CONSIDER THIS QUESTION, PLEASE NOTE THAT YOU CANNOT ASSUME THAT THE MANY COUNTY RESIDENTS WHO ARE NOT HERE IN PROTEST TONIGHT ARE THEREFORE IN FAVOR OF DATA CENTERS OR THAT THEY WILL BE IN FAVOR WHEN THEY LEARN MORE ABOUT DATA CENTERS.

I JUST FOUND OUT THIS WAS AN ISSUE LAST WEEK.

UH, OR, OR WHETHER THEY LEARNED FROM OTHERS ABOUT THEM OR FROM READING OR FROM THE EFFECTS OF ONE THAT HAS BEEN BUILT IN OUR COUNTY.

OR YOU CAN'T ASSUME, UH, THAT THEY WILL BE HAPPY WHEN THEY LEARN THAT THEY THEMSELVES WILL SOON HAVE A DATA CENTER IN THEIR DISTRICT.

SIR, YOUR TIME IS UP.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

HI, I AM SUSAN S ROSSI, 7 2 2 3 SHEFIELD AVENUE.

I'M GIVING MY THREE MINUTES TO STEVE LEVITT.

THANKS.

HI, MY NAME IS MARILYN PARK AND I LIVE AT 1 2, 1 5, 1 READERS POINT DRIVE AND READERS BRANCH, AND I'M GIVING MY THREE MINUTES TO STEVEN LEVIT.

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MY NAME IS LYNN WEBSTER.

I'M AT 71 80 YA STREET IN PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

I'M GIVING MY THREE MINUTES TO STEVE LEVITT.

ALRIGHT, IAN BAGLEY, I LIVE AT 1 2 3 2 2 BEACH WHOLE CIRCLE AND I'VE GIVEN MY TIME TO STEVE ABOUT IT.

THAT TWO OF THE PRO EMAILS CAME FROM MEMBERS OF THE EDA ONE THIRD OF THOSE SUPPORTING THE TOD ARE PART OF THE COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE ADVOCATING FOR IT.

LISA, HERE'S OUR POWERPOINT.

SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE GONNA SPEAK FIRST.

YEAH, WELL, NO, I'M GONNA SPEAK CONCURRENTLY.

I SEE YOUR HAIR RIGHT, BUT, OKAY.

MY NAME IS STEVE LAVITT.

I LIVE AT 70 36 BEN HALL CIRCLE.

MY WIFE MARGARET AND I HAVE SAT THROUGH A NUMBER OF PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS AND BOARD OF SUPERVISOR MEETINGS.

HISTORICALLY, WHEN A REZONING APPLICATION COMES BEFORE THIS BODY OR EITHER BODY COUNTY STAFF INCLUDES STATISTICS ABOUT COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND EMAILS RECEIVED, COMMUNITY FEEDBACK SHOULD BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

HAVING NOT SEEN ANY SUCH COMMUNITY FEEDBACK INFORMATION DURING ANY OF THE TOD MEETINGS, I SUBMITTED A FOIA REQUEST ASKING FOR A PRO AND CON TABULATION OF THE TOD EMAILS RECEIVED BY THE COUNTY.

I WAS INFORMED THAT NO SUCH TABULATION EXISTED, BUT THE COUNTY COULD PROVIDE A COPY OF ALL TOD EMAILS RECEIVED, WHICH I REQUESTED.

I RECEIVED A SHAREPOINT FILE, WHICH CONTAINED FILES FOR EMAILS SENT BY TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THROUGH WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 1ST.

ALSO, INCLUDED WERE ALL MESSAGES SUBMITTED THROUGH THE WEB PORTAL.

THERE WERE MORE THAN A THOUSAND MESSAGES AND I READ EVERY ONE OF THEM.

IN CERTAIN CASES, EMAILS WERE POSTED TWICE.

I DID MY BEST TO ELIMINATE DUPLICATES.

MY WORKING NUMBER OF MESSAGES WAS 987.

THERE WERE BOILERPLATE EMAILS, MANY WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ATTACHED.

THERE WERE HEARTFELT EMAILS WITH PERSONAL STORIES AND FEELINGS.

THERE WERE VERY TECHNICAL EMAILS PROVIDING SUGGESTIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDLESS OF THE CONTENT.

I APPLAUD MY FELLOW CITIZENS FOR GETTING INVOLVED IN TAKING THE TIME TO COMMUNICATE.

THE MESSAGES REPRESENTED A CROSS SECTION, UH, OF THE COUNTY AND CAME FROM EVERY DISTRICT AS WELL AS OUTSIDE THE COUNTY.

READING ALL THESE MESSAGES, WHICH I'M CONFIDENT NONE OF YOU OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE DONE, WAS TRULY REMARKABLE OF THE MESSAGES RECEIVED.

I WANTED TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE IN FAVOR OF THE TOD AND HOW MANY WERE OPPOSED.

I THEREFORE CATEGORIZE THE EMAILS AS PRO, DEFINITELY APPROVING CON OPPOSED OR EXPRESSING CONCERN AND NEUTRAL, NEITHER PRO NOR CON.

MOST OF THESE WERE PEOPLE SEEKING INFORMATION SUCH AS WHEN IS THE NEXT MEETING OR WHY WASN'T I NOTIFIED? NOW, AS WE ARE AWARE, NUMBERS AND STATISTICS CAN BE PRESENTED IN VARIOUS DIFFERENT WAYS TO SUPPORT JUST ABOUT ANY POINT OF VIEW.

HOWEVER, SOMETIMES THE NUMBERS ARE SO DEFINITIVE THAT THERE'S ONLY ONE CONCLUSION.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECEIVED 250 EMAIL, OR EXCUSE ME, 520 EMAILS.

TWO WERE PRO 501, WERE CON 17 WERE NEUTRAL.

YOU STRIP OUT THE NEUTRALS AND YOU HAVE A TOTAL OF 503 EMAILS.

TWO PROS REPRESENT 0.4%.

THE CONS 500, 501 REPRESENT 99.6%.

WHEN YOU STRIP OUT THE NEUTRALS, YOU'VE GOT THE FOUR PRO EQUAL NINE 0.9% AND THE CONS 99.1%.

THE COMBINED TOTAL OF ALL THE EMAILS SENT TO BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WAS 948.

THERE WERE A COMBINED TOTAL OF SIX PRO AND 942.

CON THAT 0.60 CENT PERCENT, FOUR AND 99.40 CENT AGAINST, I WILL NOTE

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IN ADDITION TO THESE STARTLING NUMBERS, THERE WERE SOME RECURRING THEMES.

THIS IS NOT STATISTICAL OR SCIENTIFIC.

CERTAIN THINGS WERE CONVEYED OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

SHORTSIGHTED, OUTRAGED, MALFEASANCE, NO NUCLEAR NOISE, SAFETY, DANGEROUS, IRRESPONSIBLE, MISGUIDED, STRONG OPPOSITION.

MORE RESEARCH NEEDED, LACK OF DUE DILIGENCE, MOVING TOO FAST AND IS THE THE CASE IN MOST MATTERS THAT COME BEFORE THIS BOARD, IT'S A DONE DEAL.

ONE TWO SENTENCE MESSAGE SENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ON SEPTEMBER 9TH FROM DON R 1225.

SUMMARIZE THE COMMUNITY SENTIMENT IF A HUNDRED PERCENT OF IMPACTED RESIDENTS VOTE NO, WHY WOULD OUR REPRESENTATIVES VOTE? YES, PLEASE EXPLAIN.

THE FEELING OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTY IS RESOLUTE AND DEFINITIVE.

THE NUMBERS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.

THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

THE CITIZENS OF GLAND DO NOT WANT SMRS PEAKING POWER PLANTS OR DATA CENTERS.

WHAT WE WANT FROM YOU IS TO PROTECT OUR HEALTH, THE INVESTMENT OF OUR HOMES, AND OUR QUALITY OF LIFE.

THE TOD AND TZ PROPOSALS DO NONE OF THESE.

IF 99.4% OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE OPPOSED TO THE TOD AND TZ, WHY ARE YOU INSISTING ON RAMMING IT DOWN? OUR THROATS, THE NUMBER, THE NUMBERS ARE NOT SPLIT.

IT'S NOT 70 30, IT'S NOT 85.

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EMAILS AND MESSAGES SENT TO YOU INDICATE THAT ALMOST ALL OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE OPPOSED.

YOUR TONE DEAF, THE PEOPLE IN DISTRICT FOUR DON'T WANT IT.

THE PEOPLE IN DISTRICT ONE DON'T WANT IT.

THE PEOPLE IN DISTRICT FIVE DON'T WANT IT.

THE PEOPLE IN DISTRICTS TWO AND THREE DON'T WANT IT.

THE PEOPLE IN GLAND DON'T WANT IT.

THE PEOPLE IN HENRICO DON'T WANT IT.

THE COUNTY AND STAFF HAVE BEEN VERY DEVIOUS IN THIS MATTER.

PURSUING THIS GOAL, YOU FIRST ELIMINATE THE AIR THE FLOOR AREA RATIO REQUIREMENTS, THEN SEEK TO REDUCE PARKING REQUIREMENTS TO ALLOW LARGER BUILDINGS ON PARCELS.

YOU WANNA BYPASS ESTABLISHED ZONING NORMS TO REZONE 900 PLUS ACRES FROM A TWO TO M1 WITH THE SWIPE OF A HAND.

YOU WANNA ALLOW 12 STORY BUILDINGS IN WEST CREEK, YOU DIDN'T LEARN ANYTHING FROM FAILING TO RESTRICT THE HEIGHT OF THE 6 23 LANDFILL.

IF YOU HAD DONE HALF THE RESEARCH THAT CITIZENS OF GLAND COUNTY HAVE DONE, THE CON TALLY WOULD BE 9 47 RATHER THAN 9 42, NEARLY A THOUSAND CITIZENS WEIGHED IN AND ALL BUT SIX OPPOSE THIS INITIATIVE.

I FAILED TO SEE HOW YOU DID NOT RECOGNIZE THIS AND CHANGE COURSE.

THE TIME, RESOURCES, COST.

YOU'VE DEVOTED TO PURSUING SOMETHING THAT ONLY YOU WANT.

IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE.

GENTLEMEN, PLEASE LISTEN TO WHAT YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE TELLING YOU.

1, 2, 4, 6, 1 NORTH CROSSING DRIVE.

PATRICK DUKE, FOUR 15 REGINA LANE.

I'M YIELDING MY TIME TO LISA JAMES LUCKETT.

SEATING MY TIME TO LISA MARSHA LUCKETT.

1, 2, 4, 6, 1 NORTH CROSSING DRIVE, MANNEQUIN SABOT.

SEATING MY TIME TO REVEREND LISA.

I'M SEATING MY TIME TO PASTOR SYKES.

MY NAME IS LISA SYKES.

I LIVE AT 1 2 4 8 2

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NORTH CROSSING DRIVE AND READERS BRANCH.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS TONIGHT BEFORE I DO A PREFACE I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER.

ALL GLAND CITIZENS, BUT ESPECIALLY OUR CHILDREN AND I SAY ARE INTENTIONALLY BECAUSE A SOCIETY AND THIS COUNTY MUST BE JUDGED ON HOW IT TREATS ITS CHILDREN.

I BELIEVE THERE ARE FOUR POINTS THAT NEED TO BE RAISED BEFORE I BEGIN.

FIRST, IT IS THE MORAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COUNTY TO NOTIFY ALL CITIZENS IN ALL DISTRICTS ABOUT THE CURRENT DOD PROPOSAL IN FULL.

BECAUSE IT IS SO FAR REACHING TO A LACK OF CITIZEN ADVISORY PANELS, INDEPENDENT IMPACT STUDIES, CAREFUL ZONING PRACTICES, A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY WITH NDAS AND THE RIDICULOUSLY RUSHED AND INEF INDEFENSIBLE PACE OF A PROCESS THAT SHOULD TAKE TWO YEARS OF STUDY.

ACCORDING TO OUR STATE LEGISLATORS CALLS INTO QUESTION THE VALIDITY OF THE TOD THREE INFORM CITIZENS IN DISTRICT FOUR AND FIVE ARE RESOLVED.

WE ARE RESOLVED TO HOLD ALL OF YOU COUNTY ADMINISTRATORS AND SUPERVISORS FULLY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ACTIONS IN REGARD TO THIS PROPOSAL AND EVEN MORE FOR THE SHORTCOMINGS.

IN REGARD TO THIS PROCESS.

THE FIRST PRIORITY OF ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS IN GLAND IS NOT COUNTY INCOME.

IT IS THE WELLBEING OF GLAND CITIZENS AND THE RURAL WAY OF LIFE WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO ENJOY.

THANKS TO PATRICK DUKE, A MATERIAL SPECIALIST, I SHOULD SAY, A DATA CENTER SPECIALIST WHO LIVES IN CREEKMORE AND PREPARED A DOCUMENT THAT WAS SHARED WITH RA AND THE SUPERVISORS.

THIS MORNING WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON ADDRESSING HOLES THAT ARE IN THE TOD.

AND MANY OF YOU HERE TONIGHT RECEIVED A COPY OF THAT PAPER BEFORE WE BEGAN THE PROCEEDINGS.

TONIGHT IT ADDRESSES ISSUES LIKE OMISSIONS AND OTHER SHORTCOMINGS AND OFFERS ESSENTIAL REMEDIES FOR THEM.

I'D LIKE TO THANK PATRICK.

PATRICK, WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR HAND SO WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE? GIVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE THOUGH.

AND NOW FOR MY COMMENTS.

MY FIRST IMPRESSIONS OF TOXICITY CAME FROM MY HIGH SCHOOL PLAY, GENTLEMEN, ARSENIC AT OLD LACE.

IN IT, A VICTIM IS POISONED.

SUDDENLY THEN COMICALLY DROPS TO THE FLOOR DEAD AND IS PRONOUNCED THEREAFTER.

AN AGATHA CHRISTIE STYLE SLEUTHING REVEALS THAT TWO OLD GRANNIES ARE TO BLAME FOR THE POISONING.

IF ONLY IT WERE THAT EASY TO IDENTIFY A TOXIC EXPOSURE AND TRACK DOWN THE CULPRIT.

WE LIVE IN A COMPLEX SOCIETY AND OUR BODIES ARE DAILY TRYING TO FEND OFF TOXIC ASSAULTS.

MANY OF THOSE COME FROM INDUSTRY, WHICH CAN BE MORE OR LESS FORTHCOMING ABOUT TOXIC EXPOSURES NEED.

I REMIND YOU OF CIGARETTES NOW WITH TOXINS AND WEED KILLERS, HOUSEHOLD CLEANERS, SOME MEDICINES.

THE AIR WE BREATHE, THE SOIL WE PLANT OUR GARDENS IN.

IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING.

WE HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY CAREFUL AND INFORMED SO AS NOT TO INCREASE OUR BODY BURDEN OF TOXINS TO THAT TO TIPPING POINT.

THAT IS THE POINT WHERE OUR TOXIC EXPOSURE TO OUR BODIES MANIFEST AS ILLNESS.

THIS TIPPING POINT IS DIFFERENT IN EVERY PERSON BASED ON GENETICS, THE AMOUNT OF EXPOSURE AND WHEN THE EXPOSURE OCCURRED.

THAT'S WHY THE IDEA OF A DATA CENTER WITH HUNDREDS OF DIESEL GENERATORS HAS ME, I'M SURE MANY OTHERS HERE, VERY, VERY WORRIED.

TOXIC EMISSIONS KNOW NO DISTRICT LINES TOXIC EMISSIONS, NO, NO.

DISTRICT LINES TOXIC EMISSIONS WILL TRAVEL FROM DISTRICT FOUR TO FIVE TO THREE, TO TWO TO ONE.

BAD ENOUGH, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WOULD BE SO MATTER OF FACT ABOUT PERMITTING 50, A HUNDRED, 150 OR MORE DIESEL GENERATORS, THE TOP DATA CENTERS IN THE TAD, BUT THERE ARE LOW BAR REGULATIONS FOR THOSE EMISSIONS AND THAT IS WRONG.

ARE YOU NOT THINKING ABOUT THE VULNERABLE SENIOR CITIZENS WITH ASTHMA AND BRONCHITIS AND COPD? AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE WITH A FAMILY MEMBER WITH A HISTORY OF CANCER ARE FIGHTING COGNITIVE DECLINE? HAVE YOU RESEARCHED WHAT TOXIC DATA CENTER EMISSIONS WILL DO TO THEIR HEALTH AND THEIR LIVES? DATA CENTER EMISSIONS AND GOD HELP US PEAKER PLANTS TWO SPEW ORGANIC CARCINOGENS, PARTICULATES AND NITROUS OXIDES INTO THE AIR.

THESE CAN DRIFT THE LENGTH OF OUR COUNTY AND FURTHER PLACING ALL OUR DISTRICTS AND ALL OUR CHILDREN IN THEIR NEARBY SCHOOLS AT RISK BY THEMSELVES.

THESE DATA CENTER REMISSIONS MIGHT NOT CAUSE ASTHMA, MIGHT NOT CAUSE BRONCHITIS, FUTURE ILLNESSES AND LEARNING DISABILITIES IN OUR CHILDREN.

BUT WHAT IF THEY ARE THAT IOTA, THAT LITTLE BIT THAT PUSHES A CHILD PAST HIS OR HER TOXIC TIPPING POINT? DO YOU TRUST INDUSTRY EXPERTS? PLEASE SAY NO.

TO REASSURE YOU, OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS CHARGED WITH MAKING THIS CALL ON OUR BEHALF THAT HEALTH OUTCOMES AMONG

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SO AGAIN, DO YOU TRUST THAT ADVERSE HEALTH OUTCOME OUTCOMES WILL NOT RISE DUE TO THE DATA CENTER AND ITS EMISSIONS? DO YOU KNOW THAT? BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT? I DOUBT IT.

IF YOU CANNOT ASSURE GLAND CITIZENS THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO CAUSE THEM HARM AND THEIR CHILDREN HARM, YOU MUST DISCARD YOUR CURRENT RUSHED AND FATALLY FLAWED TOD.

NOW, TO THAT END, HAVE INDUSTRY EXPERTS SPOKEN TO YOU OR HAVE YOU EVEN ASKED THEM ABOUT BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS TO ELIMINATE THIS DANGER COMPLETELY? HAS THAT BEEN INVESTIGATED? I DOUBT IT BECAUSE IN THE TOD ORDINANCE GLARINGLY, THERE DOES NOT EVEN, THERE IS NOT EVEN A STRONG MENTION OF EMISSIONS.

THERE IS A LOW BAR THAT SET BY THE DI RULE THAT WILL LET DATA CENTERS IN AND LET COME.

WHAT MAY I SAY NO TO THIS? I KNOW FROM RESEARCHING TOXIC DATA CENTERS WHAT WE MUST DO TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN FROM THEIR TOXINS.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE? I KNOW SUPERVISORS AND ADMINISTRATORS, THE PARENTS OF GLAND, I CAN TELL YOU ALREADY THEY AGREE WITH ME.

FOR THE HEALTH OF OUR CHILDREN, WE MUST KEEP GLAND DATA CENTER FREE.

SO SOME POLICY CONSIDERATIONS.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

HELLO, I AM SHERI LANE.

I LIVE AT 4 0 9 REGINA LANE AND THE CREEKMORE PARK SUBDIVISION.

I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE 900 PLUS ACRES THAT ARE TRYING TO BE REZONED AND BASICALLY BACKDOORED INTO THIS TOD IN THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THAT AREA IS DESIGNATED AS PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OFFICE, NO RETAIL, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY, BUT MOSTLY PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THAT'S ONLY FOR PLANNING PURPOSES AND IT DOESN'T CHANGE THE CURRENT ZONING.

IT HAS BEEN REPRESENTED BY THE COUNTY STAFF THAT THE TOD IS AN ADDITIONAL PROTECTION TO ADJACENT LANDOWNERS.

HOWEVER, IT HAS THE EXACT OPPOSITE EFFECT FOR RESIDENTIAL LANDOWNERS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE ADDITIONAL LAND PARCELS THAT WERE ADDED TO THE TOD AFTER THE INITIAL PRESENTATION TO THE COMMUNITY IN JULY.

THOSE LAND PARCELS ARE ZONED A TWO BY ALLOWING BUYRIGHT COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT TO OCCUR ON THAT LAND.

UNDER THE TOD PURSUANT TO SECTION 14 DASH FOUR 50 OF THE TOD ORDINANCE, THE COUNTY IS EFFECTIVELY MAKING A ZONING CHANGE WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE STEPS REQUIRED FOR PROCEDURAL DUE PROCESS AND REMOVING PROTECTIONS TO ADJACENT LANDOWNERS FROM DEVELOPMENT THAT IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH A TWO ZONING.

THERE HAS BEEN VERY LITTLE COMMUNICATION OR EXPLANATION ABOUT THE ADDITION OF THE A TWO ZONE LAND PARCEL TO THE PROPOSED TOD.

THE EXTREME INCREASE IN DATA CENTERS IS PUSHING OUR ELECTRIC GRID TO THE LIMIT.

NEW POWER GENERATION AND OTHER GRID UPGRADES WILL INCREASE OUR MONTHLY ELECTRIC BILLS.

NEW TRANSMISSION LINES AND ASSOCIATED INFRASTRUCTURE MUST BE BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW DATA CENTER LOAD IN THE STATE.

CURRENTLY ALL RATE PAYERS PAY FOR THAT NEW TRANSMISSION INFRASTRUCTURE IN 2024, 2 BILLION IN DATA CENTER RELATED TRANSMISSION COST WERE PASSED ON TO VIRGINIA TAXPAYERS.

FUTURE TRANSMISSION RELATED COSTS WILL INCREASE OUR ELECTRIC BILLS EVEN MORE.

VIRGINIA IS ALREADY THE NUMBER ONE NET IMPORTER OF ELECTRICITY IN THE COUNTRY.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH GENERATION IN THE STATE TO SUPPORT THE CURRENT DEMAND.

THIS MEANS INCREASED ELECTRIC BILLS FOR VIRGINIA CUSTOMERS.

DOES UCHIN COUNT? DOES GOOCHLAND COUNTY REALLY WANT TO BE ONE OF THE REASONS OUR ELECTRIC BILLS ARE GONNA GO KEEP CLIMBING BECAUSE OF THE STATE'S UNRESTRAINED APPETITE FOR ATTRACTING MORE AND MORE DATA CENTERS TO VIRGINIA? AND THE OTHER THING THAT I HAVE TO SAY IS WHY ARE WE LETTING THREE LANDOWNERS BULLY US INTO THIS AND ADDING THESE 900 IN THAT ARE A TWO? THANK YOU.

IN THE PLANNING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLACE.

I'M LARRY LANE.

I LIVE AT 4 0 9 REGINA LANE IN CREEKMORE PARK.

I KINDA WANT TO PIGGYBACK ONTO THIS, UM, THIS ZONING ISSUE THERE, THERE FEELS LIKE TO BE INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF IRREGULARITY WITH THE ZONING.

I INTERNED AN UNDERGRADUATE IN HANOVER AND ACTUALLY INTERNED

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AND IF IT WAS ZONED AGRICULTURAL TWO TWO, OUR NEWLAND'S EQUIPMENT, THAT WAS THE HOLY GRAIL.

THAT WAS THE BUFFER OF ALL BUFFERS.

'CAUSE IT TOOK A MAJOR FEAT TO, TO CHANGE AGRICULTURAL, UM, P UH, ZONING PRACTICES.

SO THERE ARE A FEW FOLKS THAT WANNA LIVE NEAR AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH IT'S BUFFERED, HOW MUCH THE SETBACKS, WHAT THE SIZE OR WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU.

WHEN I BOUGHT MY PROPERTY IN 2015, I READ THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

IT HAD THAT VAGUE COMMENT IN THERE.

IT DID NOT AT THAT TIME IT DIDN'T, IN MY OPINION, IT DID NOT HAVE THE VAGUE COMMENT THAT THE A TWO LAND WOULD BE PRIME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IF IT DID, THE INTERNALIZATION WOULD BE 'CAUSE I THINK THAT CHANGE WENT IN IN 17 OR 18 AFTER AFTERWARDS.

BUT THE INTERNALIZATION WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE FOR MEDIUM TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

NEVERTHELESS, MY POSITION IS THAT THAT THAT THAT INCLUSION CHANGES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND IT VIOLATES IT.

AND I'LL QUOTE THE PLAN IN CHAPTER TWO, USE OF VILLAGES GOALS.

IT HAS TO BALANCE THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE WELFARE OF THE COMMUNITY AND PRESERVES THE RURAL C CHARACTER OF THE COUNTY.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS GOD DEVELOPMENT TO VILLAGE AREAS AND INTO THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS, WHICH I KNOW ABOUT WEST CREEK.

IT IS A GROWTH CORRIDOR, OKAY? BUT THE GOES ON TO STATE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS SHOULD BE DESIRABLE AND ATTRACTIVE PLACES TO LIVE AND WORK.

THESE AREAS SHOULD BE DESTINATION OF CHOICE BY NEW RESIDENTS AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, BALANCED DEVELOPMENT THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE WELFARE IN THE COMMUNITY PRESERVES ITS RURAL CHARACTER IN GOAL NUMBER TWO OF THE COUNTY STRATEGIC PLAN.

BY WRITING THAT, THAT MAKES A, UH, TRANSACTIONAL PROMISE TO ALL CITIZENS THAT WANT TO BUY AND INVEST IN GOOSE LAND.

AND THAT'S WHAT I CHOSE TO DO.

AND I WAS WELL AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON IN WEST CREEK.

THE CURRENT TOD IS IT'S WRITTEN AS LESS THAN SMART GROWTH DATA AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS MAY CHANGE SHAPE, LOCATION, SIZE, VISUAL EFFECTS, BUT THE VI THE VISUAL EFFECTS AND THE NOISE NEVER END.

THEY 24 7 365 SIZE, HEIGHT, LOCATION MAY CHANGE WITH VISUAL EFFECTS AND NOISE LASTS FOREVER.

MANY OF THE 13,540 SOULS IN EASTERN GO GO.

THEY WANT, THEY WANT IT TO BE THEIR FOREVER HOME.

AND THAT'S WHY WE MOVED HERE.

SO PLEASE REMOVE THAT 900 ACRES.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

SETBACK 60 TO 8,500 FEET GREATER THAN 80 FEET IS 600 FEET DATA CENTERS NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL.

MY NAME IS ROB WILLIAMSON.

I LIVE AT 2 2 6 2 WHEATLAND DRIVE, MANNEQUIN SABOT.

I JUST WANNA SPEAK FOR A MOMENT, UH, BECAUSE I HAD A FRIEND WHO ASKED THE QUESTION TO THE COUNTY, ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO EXTEND THE, UH, TOD IN REGARDS TO THE, UH, AS A FOLLOW ON TO THE 900 ACRE EDITION? AND, UH, HE GOT A REPLY BACK THAT BASICALLY SAID, THERE ARE NO PLANS.

AT FIRST I FELT, OKAY, NO PLANS, BUT THEN CRITICALLY THINKING, IT WAS LIKE, OKAY, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN CONSIDERED WHAT ARE THE POSSIBILITIES OF EXPANSION AND WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? THEREFORE, WHAT DO THE RULES NEED TO BE ACROSS ALL FIVE DISTRICTS? SO IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, SECTION 15 4 48, THE PURPOSE AND INTENT, IT TALKS ABOUT EXISTING OR PROPOSED IN INFRASTRUCTURE COULD SUPPORT CONCENTRATE WHERE ENERGY SOURCES ARE PROXIMITY TO HIGH VOLTAGE KV LINES, AND THEN IT ADDS, WHICH COULD BE SERVED BY WATER SEWER.

SO THE PRIORITY IS HIGH VOLTAGE LINES.

THERE ARE HIGH VOLTAGE LINES IN ALL FIVE DISTRICTS.

SO THAT LEADS TO SECTION 15, 4 49, NOISE LIMITS, 65 DAYS, 60 AT NIGHT.

HAVE ANY OF YOU WONDERED WHY THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT? IS IT BECAUSE OF AIR CONDITIONERS RUNNING DURING THE DAY? IT'S NOT DUE TO TESTING BECAUSE EMERGENCY GENERATORS ARE EXCLUDED.

SO WHY CAN'T THEY JUST, WHY CAN'T THERE BE JUST ONE STANDARD, SAY 55 OR 60, AND LET THEM GET THE SUPER SILENT DIESELS AND ADD MORE SOUND DEADENING MATERIAL AND SET A BEST IN INDUSTRY, UH, BENCHMARK FOR QUIET DATA CENTER.

ALSO, THE, THE EXCLUSION OF EMERGENCY GENERATORS.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE LARGEST SOURCE.

AND WHAT, HOW DO YOU DEFINE EMERGENCY? HAVE YOU COMPARED IT TO WHAT THE INDUSTRY DEFINES AS EMERGENCY? BECAUSE EVERYTHING I'VE READ IS IT'S NOT WHEN A BLACKOUT HAPPENS IN A THUNDERSTORM AND THEY START THE DIESEL, THAT HAPPENS, BUT IT'S MORE, THERE'S A HIGH DEMAND ON THE ELECTRICAL GRID.

SO THEY START DIESELS TO MAINTAIN AN UNINTERRUPTIBLE POWER AT THEIR SITE.

SO THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.

IN MY OPINION,

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300 FEET.

ARE THOSE ENOUGH IN YOUR DISTRICT? NEED TO CONSIDER THAT.

MY NEIGHBORS BEHIND ME, WE OWN TWO ACRE LOTS AND THEY'RE GREATER THAN 600 FEET FROM, FROM MY HOUSE, THEIR HOUSE.

SO KEEP, KEEP THESE THINGS IN MIND THAT THIS COULD EXPAND IT ALL.

IT'S ALREADY EXPANDED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL MAP AND THEN A REVISED MAP, IT GREW BY 900 ACRES.

THAT'S AN EXPANSION OF THE TOD.

SO IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY OCCURRED.

SO THAT'S MY 2 CENTS WORTH AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS DIANE HALVERSON.

I RESIDE AT 1 2 2 5 3 BREMNER RIDGE CIRCLE, UH, IN ROOTERS BRANCH.

AND I SEED MY TIME TO LEE.

I'M LEE HALVERSON.

UH, 1 2, 2 5, 3 BREMNER RIDGE CIRCLE.

YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT MEMORIZED BY NOW.

UM, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT PARKING.

I DO HAVE SOME NOTES BECAUSE, UM, I'VE GOT, UH, SOME MATH HERE AND I GOTTA WRITE IT DOWN TO GET THE MATH RIGHT.

UH, I DON'T WANT MY NEIGHBORS AND YOU TO UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS PARKING PROPOSAL FROM TWO PERSPECTIVES IN THE WAY I SEE IT.

FIRST, IF YOU GIVE UP AND CHANGE THE PARKING PROPOSAL TO 4,000 SQUARE FEET, YOU'LL COMPLETELY LOSE CONTROL OF THE PROCESS.

SECOND, BY SEEDING THAT, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE BACK TO THE DATA CENTER OWNERS, THE PRO, NOT THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT THE DATA CENTER OWNERS WHO WILL BE BUILDING THERE, YOU ARE GIFTING THEM MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

AND I JUST WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

UH, A MILLION SQUARE FOOT, WHICH IS A MEDIUM SIZED DATA CENTER, IS GONNA REQUIRE UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, UH, ABOUT 20 ACRES OF PARKING PLACES.

UH, IF WE REDUCE IT TO WHAT'S PROPOSED A 4,000 SQUARE FEET, IT'S GONNA TAKE IT DOWN TO AN ACRE AND A HALF.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHY THE DATA CENTERS AREN'T COMING IN BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA LOSE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE TO PARKING.

THEY WANT TO PUT A SERVER THERE OR A RACK THERE.

THE REVENUE GENERATED BY, UH, A DATA CENTER IS APPROXIMATELY, THIS IS AN OLD NUMBER 20, UH, 10 IS THE LAST NUMBER.

THEY, UH, RECORDED BY SQUARE FOOT GENERATES $20,000 PER SQUARE FOOT IN REVENUE.

SO MY MATH IS IF WE GO FROM REQUIRING 20 ACRES TO AN ACRE AND A HALF UNDER THE PROPOSAL, WE'RE GIVING THEM 18.5 ACRES AND THERE'S 43,560 SQUARE FOOT IN AN ACRE TIMES 18 AND A HALF TIMES 20,000.

THAT'S A BIG NUMBER, BIGGER THAN MY CALCULATOR.

THERE'S MORE ZEROS THERE.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE'RE GONNA GET A SMALL SHARE OF THAT BECAUSE WE TAX ON THE, UH, ON THE SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE THAT'S IN THERE.

BUT THAT SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE, IF THEY BRING IN A FINANCIAL SYSTEM, OUR TAX RATE'S GONNA PLUMMET PROBABLY AS MUCH AS 80%.

AND WE CAN SWITCH THE, THE DATABASES WITH A KEYSTROKE BECAUSE IT'S NO LONGER, UH, DATA'S NOT IN A RACK OR IN A DATA CENTER.

IT MOVES AND I CAN MOVE A FINANCIAL SYSTEM WITH ONE KEYSTROKE.

SO IF THE DATA, IF IF THE PARKING SPACE IS REMOVED AND THE DATA CENTER'S GONNA COME IN, THERE'S NO REASON FOR THEM TO NOT, THE TOD BECOMES IRRELEVANT.

THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE BECOMES IRRELEVANT.

A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IS THE PROFIT IN A MEDIUM SIZED DATA CENTER.

AND A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR WILL CERTAINLY MAKE UP FOR WHATEVER INCENTIVES THAT GLAND COUNTY WOULD GIVE THEM.

SO I BEG YOU TO PLEASE DON'T UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS.

IF YOU GIVE UP ON THIS PARKING THING, IF YOU GO TO THE 4,000 SQUARE FOOT THING, YOU WILL MAKE EVERYTHING ELSE, THE SAFETY ISSUES, THE BUFFERS, EVERYTHING ABOUT IT IRRELEVANT.

WE DON'T WANT DATA CENTERS, WE WANT THE PARKING TO STAY THE SAME.

IT'S BY RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED.

LEAVE IT THAT WAY.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

HI, I AM GERALD HAAS.

1 2 3 1 3 BEACH HALL CIRCLE READERS BRANCH, AND I SEED MY TIME TO CYNTHIA.

HI, MY NAME'S BRIAN SIMONSON.

1, 2, 1 0 9 ED POINT CIRCLE, READERS BRANCH, AND I SEE MY TIME TO CYNTHIA HAAS.

HI, I'M SUSAN COX AT 1 2 3 2 1

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BEACH HALL CIRCLE.

GIVE MY THREE MINUTES TO CYNTHIA.

I KNOW THE COUNTY NEEDS TO BRING IN REVENUE FOR BUSINESSES FOR TAX REVENUE.

I HAVE NO PROBLEMS OR ISSUES WITH THAT.

BUT THE FOLKS WHO ARE ELECTRICAL ENGINEERS, CHEMICAL ENGINEERS, SOUND ENGINEERS, IT PROFESSIONALS WHO'VE WORKED IN THAT FIELD, THEIR ENTIRE 40 YEAR PLUS CAREERS, FOLKS WHO HAVE WORKED FOR DOMINION POWER WITH NUCLEAR ENERGY, FORMER LAND ATTORNEYS, GENERATOR EXPERTS, DATA CENTER DEVELOPERS CAN'T ALL BE WRONG WHEN THEY SAY THIS PROPOSAL IS FLAWED.

THOSE FLAWS MUST BE FIXED.

WE'RE TAX PAYING CITIZENS.

WE ELECT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WE PAY THE COUNTY STAFF SALARIES.

YET WE'VE BEEN GIVEN NO JUSTIFICATIONS WHY THE TOD PROPOSAL HAS BEEN WRITTEN THE WAY IT HAS.

IN FACT, WE HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR INPUT AND WE HAVE GIVEN IT MANY TIMES ONLY TO HAVE THAT INPUT COMPLETELY IGNORED AND DISREGARDED.

INSTEAD, WE TAX PAYING RESIDENTS NOW HAVE TO PAY FOR A FLAWED BALLOON TEST.

IT WAS FLAWED IN CONCEPT AND EXECUTION.

IF THE PURPOSE WAS TO SHOW 120 FOOT HIGH BUILDING COULD BE SEEN, WHY DO IT WHEN ALL THE TREES ARE IN FULL LEAF? THIS TEST FOOLED NO ONE.

WHEN TREES ARE BARE 120 FOOT HIGH, BUILDING A 12 STORY BUILDING WILL BE CLEARLY VISIBLE FROM MY BACKYARD.

WHEN THE TOD REVISION CAME OUT, A NUCLEAR REACTOR WAS ADDED.

IT WAS ADDED IN AN AREA RIGHT NEXT TO A QUARRY THAT REGULAR SETS OFF EXPLOSIONS.

YOU REMEMBER WHY MOTOROLA PULLED OUT? THEY CAME TO WALK THEIR LOT.

LUX STONE SET OFF AN EXPLOSION AND MOTOROLA WALKED AWAY.

NOW YOU WANNA PUT A NUCLEAR REACTOR RIGHT NEXT TO THAT SAME QUARRY, FLAWED THINKING.

IT IS THIS TYPE OF FLAWED THINKING THAT HAS CAUSED SO MUCH OF THE ANGER OVER THIS TOD.

THE CONCEPT HAS NOT BEEN THOUGHT THROUGH ALL THE WAY THE INSISTENCE ON NOT CHANGING ITEMS IN THIS PROPOSAL IS RIDICULOUS.

BY ENDORSING THIS TOD PROPOSAL WITHOUT THE NECESSARY MODIFICATIONS, YOU ARE TELLING EVERY TAX PAYING RESIDENT YOU DON'T RESPECT THEM, YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT THEM.

AND YOU ARE SAYING THAT WEALTHY LANDOWNERS HAVE MORE PULL THAN TAX PAYING RESIDENTS.

REMEMBER, OUR HOMES ARE HERE BECAUSE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ALLOWED THEM BECAUSE YOU WANTED OUR TAX REVENUE.

I DID MY DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE I BOUGHT MY HOME.

BEFORE I SIGNED A CONTRACT ON MY HOME.

I CALLED GLAND COUNTY AND I SPOKE TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

I ASKED WHAT COULD BE BUILT BEHIND MY HOME.

IT WAS ZONED FOR M1, WHICH WAS LIGHT MANUFACTURING SUCH AS OFFICE BUILDINGS, GLAND COUNTY CODE OF ORDINANCES, SECTION 15 DASH 2 61, STATEMENT OF INTENT M1.

THIS DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PERMIT CERTAIN INDUSTRIES, ONES WHICH DO NOT IN ANY WAY DETRACT FROM RESIDENTIAL DESIRABILITY TO LOCATE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIALS.

THIS DISTRICT ALLOWS LOWER IMPACT INDUSTRIAL USES WITH LIMITED OUTSIDE STORAGE TO PROTECT AND FOSTER ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL DESIRABILITY.

I ALSO KEEP HEARING HOW ZONING ORDINANCES AND REGULATIONS WERE SET 40 YEARS AGO AND WE ALL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT.

NO, NO, WE DON'T.

THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CAN ELECT TO CHANGE THOSE ORDINANCES ANYTIME THEY WANT.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE COUNTY WANTS TO CHANGE THE RULES BY PASSING THIS DOD ORDINANCE, YOU ARE AMENDING ZONING REGULATIONS TO DO THAT.

THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS BEING ASKED TO CHANGE THE CURRENT PARKING ZONING.

SO DATA CENTERS CAN HAVE MORE LAND FOR THEIR BUILDINGS AND USE LESS LAND FOR PARKING.

THIS PARKING SPACE ZONING CHANGE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE CAUSING THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ANY ISSUES.

IT IS A ZONING CHANGE.

YOU ARE CHANGING ZONING.

SO WHY DO RESIDENTS KEEP HEARING 40-YEAR-OLD ZONING? CAN'T BE CHANGED.

IT'S NOT TRUE.

YOU'RE DOING IT IF YOU APPROVE THE PARKING REZONE.

SO AMENDING THE ZONING REGS TO PROTECT THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE HOMES, THE COUNTY ALLOWED TO BE BUILT.

IF THE RULES AREN'T WORKING BECAUSE THEY'RE SO OUTDATED, CHANGE THEM.

YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE RESIDENTS.

IF THE 900 ACRES SOUTH OF MOSAIC CAN BE REZONED TO ALLOW DATA CENTERS, THE SAME THING IS GONNA HAPPEN IN DISTRICTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE.

ONCE LAND OWNER AND DISTRICTS ONE, TWO, AND THREE REALIZE ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS REQUEST REZONING TO

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ALLOW DATA CENTERS.

THEY'LL BE SELLING THEIR LAND FOR A LARGE PROFIT AND RETIRING NO NEED TO WORK A BACKBREAKING JOB OR 12 HOUR DAYS WHEN YOU CAN SELL THAT LAND AND RETIRE.

ONCE DATA CENTERS ARE ALLOWED INTO GLAND COUNTY, THEY WILL GO INTO EACH AND EVERY DISTRICT HISTORY.

PROVES THIS TO BE TRUE.

I'M NOT SPECULATING THE MONEY THAT IS AVAILABLE TO PURCHASE LAND FOR DATA CENTERS IS, IS UNBELIEVABLE.

VERY FEW FARMERS WILL BE ABLE TO RESIST THAT OFFER.

I PULLED TWO LOTS OFF WESTERN LOTS OFF OF THE COUNTY GGIS THAT ARE NEXT TO COUNTRY LINE ROAD.

ONE WAS 109 ACRES, THE OTHER WAS 91 ACRES NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

THOSE WOULD MAKE AN EXCELLENT SITE FOR DATA CENTERS.

THEY'RE ALSO CURRENTLY ZONED FOR ENERGY STORAGE AND UTILITY GENERATING STATIONS.

TO ILLUSTRATE THE POINT OF HOW MUCH MONEY IS AVAILABLE FOR DATA CENTERS, EVERY HOMEOWNER IN TWO COMMUNITIES, ONE IN NORTHERN VIRGINIA AND ONE IN ILLINOIS, WERE BOUGHT OUT.

SO THE DATA CENTERS COULD CONTINUE TO SPREAD AND INCREASE ITS SIZE.

TWO ENTIRE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES WERE COMPLETELY BOUGHT OUT BY DATA CENTER COMPANIES.

SO THOSE COMPANIES COULD EXPAND COMPARED TO THAT A FARM AND TWO AND GLAND IS NOTHING.

ONCE THE DOOR IS OPEN TO DATA CENTERS, EVERY DISTRICT IS FAIR GAME.

MAKE THE MODIFICATIONS WE ARE ASKING FOR TO PROTECT ALL RESIDENTS IN ALL DISTRICTS.

IT'S NOT JUST A DISTRICT FOUR, IT'S EVERY DISTRICT.

SO VERY QUICKLY, HERE ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES I ASKED FOR.

CHANGE THE BUY RIGHT TO CPU FOR DATA AND DISTRIBUTION CENTERS AND FOR GAS PEAKING PLANTS OR NUCLEAR REACTORS.

TAX PAYING RESIDENTS MUST HAVE A SAY IN ALLOWING THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES INTO GLIN.

DO NOT ALLOW A CHANGE FROM CPU TO BUY RIGHT FOR UTILITY GENERATING STATIONS AND ENERGY STORAGE.

THAT CHANGE IS UNFATHOMABLE.

WHY, WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? A HUNDRED FOOT SETBACK FROM ANY RESIDENTIAL LOT OR DATA FROM A DATA OR DISTRIBUTION CENTER, THERE SHOULD BE NO ROADWAY CONNECTIONS FROM PROPERTY WITHIN THE TOD TO LOCAL ROADS WITHIN RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY CHANGE THE WORDING ON USES ALLOWED IN THE TOD FOR UTILITY GENERATING STATIONS LIMITED TO SMRS AND GAS PEAKING PLANTS TO BE ONLY IN AREAS NORTH OF I 64.

ELIMINATE THE WORDS ONLY ALLOWED WHERE DESIGNATED INDUSTRY, UM, AND FLEXIBLE IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

DON'T ALLOW AN SMR TO BE PLACED IN WEST CREEK IN THE FUTURE AS THE CURRENT PLAN ALLOWS.

HOW DOES THIS BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WANT TO BE KNOWN AS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT ALLOW DATA CENTERS IN GLAND DUE TO PRESSURE FROM WEALTHY LANDOWNERS OR AS A BOARD OF SUPERVISORS THAT PROTECTED THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ELECTED THEM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NOW LET, LET ME, LEMME TAKE A MOMENT TO PAUSE.

UH, WE'RE RUNNING, UH, CLOSE TO THE TIME LIMIT THAT WE'VE PLACED ON THIS.

UH, SOME OF YOU SPOKE LAST NIGHT AND WE RAN OUT OF TIME LAST NIGHT AND, AND KNOW THERE ARE THOSE OF YOU THAT WANTED TO SPEAK AND WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME.

SO IN SENSE OF FAIRNESS, IF YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN TO US, I THINK WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS INVITE YOU TO, TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FOR THE FIRST TIME INSTEAD OF HAVING PEOPLE WHO HAVE ALREADY SPOKEN TO US.

I THINK THAT SOUNDS FAIR BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE PROMISED LAST NIGHT.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T SPOKEN, IF YOU WOULD STEP FORWARD.

NO RELIABLE WAY TO MEASURE THEIR EFFECTS ON PROPERTY VALUES, HEALTH OR ENVIRONMENT.

SILENT .

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, HEAR ME OUT.

UH, MY NAME IS JESSICA HARRISON.

I LIVE AT 2 5 3 2 NORTH WIND PLACE IN HENRICO COUNTY.

SO I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO CONSIDER YOUR NEIGHBORING COUNTY.

WHEN VOTING ON THE TOD AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, THIS DECISION AFFECTS MORE THAN GLIN COUNTY RESIDENTS.

IT IMPACTS THOUSANDS OF FAMILIES IN WESTERN HENRICO COUNTY WHO LIVE RIGHT ACROSS YOUR BORDER WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD TAKE PLACE.

HAD I KNOWN MY HOME WOULD ONE DAY BE NEAR A SMALL MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTOR OR WITHIN AN EARSHOT OF A DATA CENTER, I NEVER WOULD'VE BOUGHT IT.

AND LIKE MANY OTHERS, I MOVED TO WESTERN HENRICO TO RAISE MY FAMILY IN A QUIET AND SAFE COMMUNITY SURROUNDED BY TREES, CLEAN AIR AND NATURE.

I DID NOT MOVE HERE TO LIVE WITHIN AN EMERGENCY PLANNING ZONE OR NEAR LARGE INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES.

SINCE THERE ARE NO OPERATIONAL SMRS CURRENTLY IN THE UNITED STATES, WE HAVE

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AND WITH A NATURAL GAS PLANT, WE WOULD BE INTRODUCING NEW SOURCES OF AIR AND NOISE POLLUTION INTO OUR COMMUNITIES.

APPROVING A ZONING ORDINANCE WITHOUT CLEAR DATA THAT AFFECTS RESIDENTS ACROSS COUNTY LINES IS PREMATURE.

BOTH SMR AND NATURAL GAS PLANT OPERATIONS SHOULD BE REMOVED UNTIL THEIR ENVIRONMENTAL AND HEALTH IMPACTS CAN BE BETTER UNDERSTOOD.

ALTHOUGH DATA CENTERS CAN BRING ECONOMIC GROWTH, THEY ALSO CREATE NOISE.

LOW FREQUENCY NOISE CAN TRAVEL FAR AND DISRUPT NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS.

EVEN THOSE ACROSS THE TUCKAHOE GREEK, PLEASE STRENGTHEN THE LIMITS TO 45 DECIBELS DURING THE DAY AND 40 AT NIGHT.

REQUIRE SOUND ABSORBING ENCLOSURES FOR GENERATORS AND FIT HVAC SYSTEMS WITH DEVICES THAT REDUCE LOW FREQUENCY HUMS. THESE ARE PRACTICAL STEPS THAT WOULD REDUCE THE IMPACT ON SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS.

I UNDERSTAND THIS PROJECT COULD BRING A LOT OF REVENUE FOR GLAND COUNTY.

HOWEVER, AS A HENRICO RESIDENT, I WILL NOT BENEFIT FROM THAT REVENUE, BUT I DO HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE NOISE, THE RISK AND UNCERTAINTY THAT COMES WITH IT.

THERE MUST BE A BALANCE BETWEEN ECONOMIC GROWTH AND CITIZEN PROTECTION.

THE REASON SO MANY OF US ARE HERE TONIGHT IS BECAUSE THAT BALANCE HAS NOT BEEN MET.

PLEASE DON'T JUST LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS, BUT ACT ON THEM.

ONLY MOVE FORWARD WITH OD IF IT INCLUDES STRONGER PROTECTIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITIES AND SAFEGUARDS FOR THE FUTURE OF BOTH OUR COUNTIES.

GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU.

MY NAME IS TIM STAUB.

I LIVE AT 92 43 SARU PLACE IN MOSAIC.

SAUM BACKS UP TO THAT 900 ACRES.

SO THAT DATA CENTER, IF THERE IS ONE, WILL BE LITERALLY IN MY BACKYARD.

I'LL START MY COMMENT WITH AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT I AM A CAPITALIST AND I'M AN INVESTOR AND I INDIRECTLY HOLD INVESTMENTS IN DATA CENTERS.

I'M ALSO A SCIENTIST AND A FORMER BIOTECHNOLOGY, CEO.

I'VE BUILT LOTS OF FACILITIES AND I'VE NEVER BUILT THEM NEXT TO A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.

I BELIEVE IN TECHNOLOGY.

I BELIEVE IN PROGRESS.

I BELIEVE IN FREE MARKETS THAT ENCOURAGE INNOVATION.

I AM NOT ANTI-D DATA CENTER.

I AM HOWEVER ANTI DATA DATA CENTERS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.

I'M ANTI SHORT-SIGHTED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT APPROVING A $300 MILLION RESIDENTIAL RETIREMENT COMMUNITY, AND THEN APPROVING AN ADJACENT INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT ALLOWS BUYRIGHT FOR LOW FREQUENCY, HIGH DECIBEL INDUSTRIAL FACILITIES.

NEXT DOOR IS SHORTSIGHTED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

BUT I GET IT.

IT'S OPPORTUNISTIC.

THE AI ECONOMY IS CREATING OPPORTUNITY FOR GLAND COUNTY.

I GREW UP IN A SMALL RURAL COMMUNITY IN DOWNSTATE ILLINOIS.

WE NEED REVENUES AND WE WANT TO PROTECT THE CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE FOR GLAND RESIDENTS.

THAT SHOULD MEAN ALL GLAND RESIDENTS.

I DON'T SUPPORT LOCATING DATA CENTERS ADJACENT TO EXISTING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES, BUT I AM BIASED BECAUSE IT WILL LITERALLY BE IN MY BACKYARD.

IF YOU PLAN TO APPROVE THE TOD LIKE THE LAST SPEAKER, I URGE YOU TO TAKE RESPONSIBLE INTELLIGENT STEPS TO LIMIT THE IMPACT OF THE TOD ON EXISTING RESIDENTS.

AS YOU KNOW, FROM MY MANY LETTERS, AND I'M PROBABLY FIVE OF THOSE 520, UM, DATA CENTERS CAN BE BUILT THAT ARE 40 TO 45 DECIBELS, NO LOUDER THAN A WHISPER IN A LIBRARY.

THE ARCHITECTS OF AND INVESTORS IN THESE DATA CENTERS KNOW HOW TO DO THIS AND YOU SHOULD REQUIRE IT.

THEY CAN DO IT BY ADDRESSING COOLING SYSTEM NOISE THROUGH LIQUID COOLING AND ACOUSTICAL SOUNDPROOFING.

THEY CAN REDUCE SERVER NOISE BY INSTALLING SOUNDPROOFING CABINETS AND VIBRATION DAMPENING.

THEY CAN REQUIRE SOUNDPROOFING AND WALLS, INCLUDING DOUBLE WALLED AND INSULATED EXTERIOR WALLS.

THEY CAN REQUIRE SOUND BARRIER FENCES FACING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES.

THEY CAN MITIGATE BACKUP GENERATOR NOISE BY INSTALLING NATURAL GAS POWERED BACKUP GENERATORS WITH ACOUSTICAL ENCLOSURES AROUND THE GENERATORS.

AS A GLY RESIDENT, I URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THE TOD, BUT IF YOU CAN'T MANDATE THAT 40, 40, 40 TO 45 DECIBEL SOUND BARRIER.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE GOT ROOM FOR ABOUT TWO MORE SPEAKERS.

HI, CAN I SEE MY TIME? TO EDITA ANNA GITO, 1 2 1 0 1 DENVER COURT.

I'M SEATING MY TIME TO EDIT KOSNIK.

WITH MY DOCTORAL LEVEL DEGREE FROM VCU IN APRIL.

MY NAME IS EDA KOSNIK AND I RESIDE AT 1 2 3 4 0 MORNING CREEK ROAD.

I'M A NURSE AND I'LL BE GRADUATING

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I'VE SPENT THE LAST FOUR YEARS WORKING IN DIFFERENT ONCOLOGY UNITS, INCLUDING CHEMOTHERAPY, INFUSIONS AND BONE MARROW TRANSPLANTS WHERE I CARED FOR CHILDREN BATTLING THE MOST AGGRESSIVE FORMS OF CANCERS, INCLUDING LEUKEMIA.

I HAVE HELD THE HANDS OF TODDLERS AND I CRIED WITH THEM AS THEY CRIED FROM THE PAIN OF CHEMOTHERAPY.

I HAVE WATCHED CHILDREN LOSE THEIR HAIR, THEIR STRENGTH, THEIR ABILITY TO WALK TO EAT.

I HAVE WATCHED PARENTS BREAK DOWN IN HALLWAYS.

I'VE HAD TO SAY GOODBYE TO FAR TOO MANY CHILDREN WHOSE LITTLE BODIES COULD NOT TAKE IT ANYMORE, EVEN FOR THE LUCKY ONES WHO SURVIVE.

THE JOURNEY IS BRUTAL, FULL OF SIDE EFFECTS, LIFELONG COMPLICATIONS AND RELAPSES.

WHEN I HEAR THAT A NUCLEAR REACTOR, A GAS PEAKING PLANT, AND A HYPERSCALE DATA CENTER ARE BEING PROPOSED NEAR HENRICO COUNTY, A COMMUNITY FILLED WITH SCHOOLS AND CHILDREN.

I CANNOT REMAIN SILENT.

NEITHER THE DATA CENTERS NOR GAS PICKING PLANTS ARE CLEAN OR HARMLESS.

NEIGHBORS BOTH POSE SERIOUS HEALTH RISKS DUE TO THEIR EMISSIONS OF FINE PARTICULATE MATTERS.

ACCORDING TO LONGSTANDING RESEARCH, INCLUDING THE HARVARD SIX CITY STUDY AND STUDIES FROM THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, THERE IS NO SAFE LEVEL OF EXPOSURE TO THESE POLLUTANTS.

TOD PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS WOULD DIRECTLY IMPACT 45 NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE CHILDREN LIVE, LEARN, AND PLAY.

CHILDREN ARE ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE TO AIR POLLUTION AND NOISE DUE TO THEIR DEVELOPING BODIES AND HIGHER RESPIRATORY RATES, WHICH CAUSE THEM TO ABSORB MORE POLLUTANTS, RELATIVES TO THEIR SIZE.

DOCUMENTED HEALTH CONSEQUENCES INCLUDE INCREASED RATES OF ASTHMA, RESPIRATORY DISEASE, DEVELOPMENTAL DELAYS, HIGHER RISKS OF LEUKEMIA AND AUTISM AMONG OTHERS.

IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES AN EXPERIMENTAL NUCLEAR REACTOR RAISING EVEN MORE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY AND LONG-TERM ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS.

AS DOCUMENTED IN THE STUDIES, THERE IS AN INCREASED RISK OF ALL CANCERS, THYROID CANCERS, AND LEUKEMIA AMONG RESIDENTS LIVING WITHIN 19 MILES OF THE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT.

AND THE RISK IS THE HIGHEST IN CHILDREN UNDER FIVE.

WE KNOW CHILDREN ARE MORE PRONE TO THE RISKS OF OF RADIATION.

THEIR CELLS ARE DIVIDING RAPIDLY, THEIR IMMUNE SYSTEMS ARE STILL DEVELOPING.

THEY HAVE DECADES AHEAD OF THEM FOR RADIATION IN THOSE MUTATIONS TO MANIFEST AS DISEASE.

IF A CHILD IN THIS COMMUNITY IS DIAGNOSED WITH LEUKEMIA IN THE YEARS TO COME, WILL WE BE ABLE TO SAY WITH CERTAINTY THAT THE NUCLEAR REACTOR DID NOT PLAY A ROLE? NO.

AND I ASSURE YOU, NO AMOUNT OF MONITORING OR REGULATORY LIMITS WILL BE ENOUGH TO COMFORT THE FAMILIES WHO MUST WATCH THEIR CHILDREN SUFFER THROUGH CHEMO TRANSPLANTS.

OR WORSE.

AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS AT THE BEDSIDE OF THESE CHILDREN TRYING TO EASE THEIR PAIN, COMFORTING THEM THROUGH SCREAMS AND SUBS, I IMPLORE YOU TO NOT ADD UNNECESSARY RISK TO THIS COMMUNITY, TO NOT GAMBLE WITH CHILDREN'S LIVES.

ONCE THE CANCERS COME, THERE'S NO UNDOING IT.

THIS IS NOT JUST A LAND USE ISSUE, IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE, A CHILDREN'S HEALTH ISSUE, AND A MORAL ISSUE.

THIS DEVELOPMENTS DO NOT BELONG IN YOUR HOMES, SCHOOLS, OR PLAYGROUNDS.

OUR CHILDREN DESERVE CLEAN AIR, QUIET NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE CHANCE TO GROW UP HEALTHY.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW CHILDREN ARE GOING TO BE EVACUATED IN CASE OF A NUCLEAR EMERGENCY.

THERE ARE AT LEAST FIVE SCHOOLS WITHIN TWO MILES RADIUS OF THE PROPOSED NUCLEAR PLANT.

THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH SCHOOL BUSES TO EVACUATE ALL CHILDREN FROM ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, AND HIGH SCHOOLS AT THE SAME TIME, HOW WILL THE DECISION BE MADE? WHO WILL BE SAVED AND WHO WILL BE SACRIFICED? THERE ARE SAFER ENERGY SOURCES AND SAFER IDEAS FOR GENERATING INCOME FOR THE GLAND COUNTY.

LET'S CHOOSE THOSE.

WONDERFUL, THANK YOU.

I'M CHRISTINE SLATE.

1, 2, 1, 1 5.

BRANCH OVERLOOK CIRCLE IN MANNEQUIN SABOT AND I SEE MY TIME TO JOY.

HI, I'M JOY SIMONSON.

I LIVE AT 1 2 1 0 9 AT POINT CIRCLE IN READERS BRANCH.

UM, I WANNA DISCUSS SEVERAL CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, SMALL MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTORS THAT I WOULD LIKE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, UH, TO CONSIDER.

THE 10, THE POTENTIAL RAMIFICATIONS OF A SMALL MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTOR THAT WAS ADDED SO THAT THE DATA CENTER COULD GET UP AND RUNNING A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN BUILDING A TRADITIONAL, UH, POWER GRID UP SCALING.

UH, ALSO THERE'S NO CURRENT SMRS CURRENTLY IN THE UNITED STATES.

ONLY TWO, ONE IN THE OPTIC OF RUSSIA AND THE OTHER IN CHINA.

UH, SECURITY CONCERNS.

IT'S ALSO ANOTHER SERIOUS RISK, UH, FOR A POTENTIAL

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TERRORIST.

THEY COULD GET ACCESS TO THE REACTOR WITHOUT HAVING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE THOSE, THOSE ISSUES AND YOU'D HAVE TO PAY FOR 24 HOUR SECURITY AROUND THERE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR THAT? UM, CHALLENGES OF DEPLOYMENT.

THE SMRS HAVE FACED, UM, CHALLENGES RELATED TO HIGH UPFRONT COST AND LARGE SCALE COMMERCIALLY VIABLE PROJECTS WITH SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED SO FAR FOR SMR. THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED LONG DELAYS AND COST INCREASES, RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR ECONOMIC VIABILITY.

THE WASTE OF AN SMR HAS SIMILAR WASTE TO LARGE REACTORS.

THERE ARE ALSO SIGNIFICANT SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES FOR COMPONENTS AND SPECIALIZED MATERIALS, WHICH CAN BE A SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE FOR CONSTRUCTION OPERATION AND CAUSE BALLOONING BUDGETS.

DECOMMISSIONING PROCESS WILL INVOLVE SIGNIFICANT LONG-TERM COSTS AND SPECIALIZED PROCEDURES FOR DISMANTLING AND DIS CONTAMINATION.

TYPICAL LIFESPAN, THEY SAID OF A, UM, SMR IS 60 TO 80 YEARS.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S A GUESSTIMATE SINCE THERE'S ONLY TWO AND THEY'VE BEEN RECENTLY, UM, BEEN BROUGHT UP.

UH, NEWSPACE IS THE ONLY COMPANY THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR A PROTOTYPE OF AN SMR HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.

KEYWORD BEING PROTOTYPE.

WHAT MAKES THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF DIRECTORS, UH, THINK THAT THEY HAVE THE, UH, BUSINESS ATTEMPTING TO BE AN SMR GUINEA PIG FOR VIRGINIA OR THE UNITED STATES.

UH, HEALTH EFFECTS FROM SMR, UM, INCREASED RISK OF VARIOUS CANCERS.

MOST COMMON BEING THYROID CANCER AND LEUKEMIA.

AND THAT WAS, UH, SHOWN WITHIN THE 30 KILOMETER RADIUS.

WOULD YOU WANNA LIVE NEAR THAT? HOW ABOUT MOVING YOUR FAMILIES OVER THERE? AND, UH, WOULD WE ALL, UH, AND WE ALSO WORK HARD FOR OUR MONEY.

I KNOW YOU ALL DO TOO.

AND SO THEN THERE'S THE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE AROUND THERE.

NOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE OUR HOUSES GONNA BE VALUED AT? WE'RE GONNA BE LOSING ALL KINDS OF MONEY, UM, WITH THAT.

SO, UM, WE KNOW THAT GLIN DOES NEED TO SEEK REVENUE, BUT FEEL LIKE THERE ARE MUCH BETTER OPTIONS THAN A DATA CENTER AND A SMALL MODULAR NUCLEAR REACTOR.

YOU CHANGE READER'S BRANCH NEIGHBORHOOD FROM AN M1 INDUSTRIAL, SO WE KNOW YOU CAN DO THAT FOR THE PROPERTY EVEN NEXT TO US.

THAT IS, YOU KNOW, UP FOR A POTENTIAL AREA THAT THEY CAN PUT A DATA CENTER.

UM, WE WOULD MUCH RATHER HAVE ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD , UM, THAT, UH, WOULD BE IN KEEPING WITH THE CURRENT CLIMATE OF THE AREA.

UM, YES, I KNOW THAT DOES NOT HELP FOR Y'ALL, 70 30 THAT Y'ALL WANTED TO, TO ACHIEVE FOR 30% OF BUSINESS AND 70% RESIDENTIAL.

UM, BUT, UM, YOU COULD CHOOSE AND ALSO ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE A POSITIVE OPTION VERSUS A DATA CENTER.

UM, YOU WERE VOTED INTO THIS POSITION TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR THE CITIZENS OF GUIN COUNTY.

SO PLEASE DO YOUR JOB WITH THAT FOCUS IN PLACE.

ALRIGHT, I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA DO LIKE MY FOOTBALL PLAYER COLLEAGUE HERE AND CALL AN AUDIBLE.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE FIVE MORE SPEAKERS ARE LINED UP HERE.

UM, AND WHAT I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA ALLOW US TO GO 15 MINUTES OVER, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO HOLD IT AT THREE MINUTES, IF YOU WILL, AND, AND, AND NO SEATING.

I THINK THAT'LL BE FAIR.

WE DO HAVE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS, ALTHOUGH IT'S A LIGHT AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT WE DO WANT TO GIVE, LET THEM ALL GO.

YOU CAN STAY HERE ALL NIGHT IF WE WANNA STAY HERE ALL NIGHT, HEAR, LET THEM ALL GO.

WELL, MAYBE WE SHOULD CALL IT A RE RECESS.

MR. WINFREY.

THE ITEMS, IT'S NOT A BAD IDEA.

ONLY, THERE'S ONLY FIVE.

IF, IF PEOPLE CAN'T KEEP DECORUM, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD CALL A REUS UNTIL PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY CONDUCT THEMSELVES IN A PROFESSIONAL.

THESE, THESE ARE THE GROUND RULES THAT WE ESTABLISHED AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY'RE FAIR AND I'M SORRY, BUT I, BUT YOU KNOW, THESE ARE WHAT WE ESTABLISHED.

SO I THINK IN CONSIDERATION, I'M GONNA ALLOW 15 MORE MINUTES AND IF YOU'LL HOLD IT TO THREE MINUTES EACH.

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WERE FIVE STANDING UP, SIR.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, THE NE NO ONE HAS SO FAR SPOKEN ABOUT THE NEXT GENERATION OF DATA CENTERS.

STEVE SHORROCK.

1, 2, 2, 1.

BREMNER RIDGE CIRCLE.

I'M ORIGINALLY FROM NEW YORK, SO MAYBE I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT FASTER FOR YOU TONIGHT.

UM, FIRST ACTUALLY, SOMETHING I WASN'T PLANNING ON SAYING, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY IN SUPPORT OF THE SUPERVISORS.

AND, UH, AT THE VERY BEGINNING WHEN TOM WINFREY SAID, WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN.

I MEAN, I'M TALKING TO YOU, YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT'S JUST HOW THIS WORKS.

AND IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD REASONS, BUT I'M NOT SPENDING MY THREE MINUTES ON THAT.

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THEY'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE ARE NOW, WHERE OTHER PEOPLE ARE.

NOW, THE NEXT GENERATION OF DATA CENTERS ARE GOING TO BE FOUR TO 30 MILLION SQUARE FEET.

NOT THE 1 MILLION, 2 MILLION OR THE REALLY BIG ONE, TWO AND A HALF MILLION THAT'S IN HENRICO.

UM, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT PARKING, AND I BET A LOT OF PEOPLE BEHIND ME ARE ALL OF A SUDDEN BORED.

BUT THE THING IS, A 4 MILLION SQUARE FOOT DATA CENTER, A SMALL ONE OF THE FUTURE IS GONNA REQUIRE 24 ACRES OF PARKING.

AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S JUST THE ARITHMETIC OF THE ACTUAL PARKING SPOTS.

IT'S GONNA TAKE ABOUT 30% MORE THAN THAT FOR AISLES, ET CETERA.

BUT I'LL BET A A SMART DEVELOPER WILL JUST, YOU KNOW, GO WITH THE LAW AND, AND HAVE A BIG GRID OF PARKING SPOTS WHERE NO, NO, UH, CARS CAN MOVE OUT OF THE, UH, EXCEPT FOR THE ONES ON THE EDGE.

I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM IN THE WEST WITH SOME BUYRIGHT HOUSING AND IT'S, IT'S CAUSING YOU PROBLEMS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I, I DOUBT THAT ANY OF THOSE ARE SIX STORIES TALL.

MAYBE THEY ARE.

YOU HAVE A LOT OF ROADS OUT THERE THAT HAVEN'T RIDDEN ON ON ALL OF 'EM.

I'LL BET NONE OF THEM FRONT TO BACK.

GO BACK 200 FEET.

I I BET NONE OF THEM DO.

THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY BIG.

AND I'LL BET NONE OF THEM HAVE A WIDTH OF JUST UNDER TWO THIRDS OF A MILE WIDE.

THAT IS WHAT A 4 MILLION SQUARE FOOT DATA CENTER IS A SMALL ONE OF THE FUTURE.

WOW.

THAT REALLY DID GO BY FAST.

UH, I'M GONNA SKIP THAT PAGE AND UH, OKAY.

A COUPLE THINGS THAT I'VE HEARD FIRST AT THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

DATA, DATA CENTERS WANT BE GOOD NEIGHBORS.

HOW DO WE KNOW THIS WHEN WE KEEP ON BEING TOLD THAT THERE'S NO SPECIFIC PROJECTS IN THE PIPELINE? UM, ALSO, UH, WELL I GOTTA SKIP THAT TOO.

UH, I HEAR A COUPLE TIMES THAT THE TOD IS THE GOLD STANDARD AND BEST IN CLASS.

THERE ARE THREE CATEGORIES OF NOISE.

YOU'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IT.

65 DECIBELS IS NOT THE GOLD STANDARD.

UH, YOU MAY BE DISCUSSING 55 DECIBELS.

THAT'S NOT THE LOW STANDARD LOW FREQUENCY NOISE FELT OVER A MILE AWAY.

THAT COULD PROBABLY ACTUALLY BE FELT AS FAR AS DO OVERHAUL IF IT'S IN THE, UH, IF IT'S, UH, IN, UM, WEST CREEK AND DIESEL GENERATOR NOISE, TWO SOURCES OF NOISE THAT ARE NOT EVEN MENTIONED.

NOT TO MENTION THAT EMISSIONS ARE NOT WHEN IT GOES SOLID.

IS THAT WHAT I'M DONE? YEP.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

HAVE YOUR TIME IS UP.

I WAS JUST GONNA ASK THAT YOU PLEASE DEFER IT.

THERE'S SO MANY QUESTIONS AND, UH, IF I MAY SAY YOU SHOULD BE PUBLISHING THE ORDER EVENT SHOULD BE PUBLISHED, THE ORDINANCE HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND THEN VOTE THE FIRST TIME THAT WE SEE A WRITTEN VERSION OF WHAT THE TOD IS GOING TO BE.

SHOULDN'T BE THE DAY AFTER THE VOTE.

THANK YOU SIR.

CLEAN WATER WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT WATER PRESSURE, ROADS THAT DON'T FLOOD DUE TO OVERDEVELOPMENT AND LACK OF DRAINAGE AND THE ABILITY TO DRIVE DOWN ROUTE SIX SAFELY, PARTICULARLY BETWEEN WEST CREEK AND RICHMOND COUNTRY CLUB.

HI, JUNE TURNER, 4 24 REGINA LANE.

I'M HERE THIS EVENING NOT AS A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT ON DATA CENTER'S, NUCLEAR POWER OR SO MANY OF THE OTHER TOPICS THAT YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.

I'M HERE AS A LONGTIME CITIZEN OF GLAND COUNTY.

I'VE ATTENDED MANY OF THE MEETINGS AND I'M IMPRESSED BY THE PASSION AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITIZENS OF GLAND COUNTY.

WHILE I'M NOT A SCIENTIST, I AM A FINANCIAL ANALYST AND I AM A FRAUD INVESTIGATOR.

AND AFTER ATTENDING MULTIPLE MEETINGS, I'VE NOT YET HEARD ANYTHING POSITIVE OR LOGICAL ABOUT THE INCLUSION OF THE 900 ACRES OUTSIDE OF WEST CREEK, CERTAIN BUYRIGHT PROVISIONS, GAS PEAKING PLANTS, BATTERY STORAGE, FACILITIES, DATA CENTERS, AND MANY OF THE OTHER PROPOSALS AS WRITTEN.

I'VE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT FINANCIAL STUDIES, HEALTH IMPACTS, ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OR THE LIKE.

I'VE HEARD ALL OF THESE THINGS BROUGHT UP AS CONCERNS FROM MY NEIGHBORS, BUT LIKE OTHERS, I FEAR WERE NOT BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

SO I THOUGHT I WOULD APPROACH THIS FROM ANOTHER DIRECTION, NOT FOCUSING ON WHAT WE DON'T WANT, BUT WHAT WE DO WANT.

LIKE MANY OTHERS, I MOVED TO GLIN BECAUSE OF THE LIFESTYLE PROMISED NOT CHEAP TAXES.

IN FACT, I'M SURE I PAID A PREMIUM FOR MY HOME.

I'M NOT LOOKING TO SAVE PENNIES ON TAXES.

I WANT ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT LISTENED TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS, ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS THAT ARE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THEIR REASONING.

A COUNTY THAT BUILDS STRONG BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS WITH REPUTABLE COMPANIES, A SAFE ENVIRONMENT TO LIVE WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT THE THREAT OF SABOTAGE TO THE POWER GRIDS, NUCLEAR REACTORS OR GAS PEAKING PLANTS, CLEAN AIR.

THE ABILITY TO ENJOY MY YARD WITHOUT HEARING THE SOUNDS OF HUMMING FROM DATA CENTERS OR BACKUP GENERATORS.

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I'D ALSO LIKE TO ADD SOME ITEMS FOR YOU TO CONSIDER WHEN YOU DO YOUR COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.

TECHNOLOGY EQUIPMENT HAS A VERY SHORT LIFESPAN WHEN THE EQUIPMENT IS REPLACED IN THREE TO FIVE YEARS, IF NOT SOONER.

DOES GLAND HAVE THE ABILITY TO DISPOSE OF THIS EQUIPMENT? WILL IT END UP IN OUR DUMP? IS IT HAZARDOUS MATERIAL? WILL IT NEED TO BE TRANSPORTED TO OTHER LOCATIONS? AND HOW WILL THAT BE MANAGED? DOES THAT POSE A RISK TO THE CITIZENS? AND WHO WILL PAY FOR IT IF THESE BUSINESSES PULL OUT AFTER A YEAR OR FIVE YEARS? WILL THE BUILDINGS BE DESIRABLE TO OTHER BUSINESSES? AND IF IT'S A DATA CENTER WITH LIMITED PARKING FOR EMPLOYEES WHO WILL MOVE IN, WILL THE ADDITIONAL TRAINING BE NECESSARY FOR POLICE AND FIRE PERSONNEL AS TECHNOLOGY AND THESE EQUIPMENT IS MUCH DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE HAVE NOW AND WHAT OTHER SAFETY PERSONNEL AND OTHERS WILL BE HIRED, I IMPLORE YOU TO TAKE YOUR TIME AND MAKE SMART DECISIONS FOR US AND THE BEAUTIFUL PLACE WE CALL HOME.

UM, MY NAME IS CINDY ATTIA.

I LIVE AT, UH, 4 2 2 REGINA LANE AND CREEKMORE PARK.

UM, I AM ACTUALLY VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE TOD AND THE DECISION TO ADD THE 900 PLUS ACRES SURROUNDING THE COUNTRY CLUB TO WEST CREEK FOR BUYRIGHT INDUSTRIAL PURPOSES.

I URGE YOU TO REMOVE THIS ACREAGE AND BUYRIGHT LANGUAGE FROM THE TOD.

WHEN WE MOVED TO CREEKMORE PARK IN 2013, WE DID OUR RESEARCH AND KNEW WEST CREEK WOULD EVENTUALLY BE DEVELOPED, BUT THE 900 PLUS ACRES WAS ZONED A TWO AND IT WAS NOT A PART OF THE PLAN.

AS FAR AS WE KNEW FOR PRIME DEVELOPMENT.

WE WOULD NEVER HAVE BOUGHT OUR HOME IN CREEKMORE PARK IF WE KNEW ALL THIS LAND COULD POTENTIALLY HOLD HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENTS.

AND I CONSIDER IT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL WHEN IT'S LITHIUM ION BATTERY FARMS, GAS PEAKING PLANTS AND DATA CENTERS.

I'M HEARTBROKEN THAT THIS IS EVEN BEING CONSIDERED.

I'VE HEARD A LAWSUIT WAS FILED BY LANDOWNERS WITH HEAVY DEEP POCKETS OF THE 900 PLUS ACRES AGAINST GOOCHLAND COUNTY BECAUSE OF REZONING DECISIONS BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

DOES THIS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE ADDITION OF THE 900 PLUS ACRES? IF SO, IT DOESN'T SEEM FAIR TO RECTIFY THE DISPUTE BY PUNISHING HUNDREDS OF VOTING CITIZENS AND ALLOWING HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND POTENTIALLY DATA CENTERS, GAS PEAKING PLANTS AND BATTERY STORAGE FARMS IN THEIR BACKYARDS.

SURELY THERE HAS TO BE ANOTHER WAY TO WORK OUT THE DIFFERENCES WITH THESE LANDOWNERS.

THAT'S IT.

ALRIGHT, WE HAVE ONE MORE.

THIS, THIS WILL BE THE LAST SPEAKER.

HI, MY NAME'S JENNIFER MOSLEY.

8 8 5 KESTON LANE IN KINLOCK.

UM, WE JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS.

ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS, WE HAD NO IDEA ABOUT THIS.

EVERYONE'S TALKING ABOUT IT.

HERMITAGE COUNTRY CLUB MEMBERS, KEN LOCK COUNTRY CLUB MEMBERS HAVE NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS.

I GREW UP IN CALIFORNIA.

I MOVED TO GLAND HOPING TO HAVE A BETTER LIFE WITH MY CHILDREN.

HEARING THERE'S A NUCLEAR REACTOR POSSIBLY COMING IS UNBELIEVABLE.

AND NOTICING SOME OF THE SUPERVISORS NOT LISTENING ALL THE TIME LOOKING DOWN IS SHOCKING.

IT'S LIKE LA AND I'M SERIOUS.

WE MOVED HERE FOR A BETTER LIFE AND TO SEE THAT YOU GUYS ARE LIKE, IT'S OKAY.

DATA CENTERS ARE NO PROBLEM.

I'VE LIVED WITH IT AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD LISTEN TO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE.

THEY'RE SAYING, PLEASE DON'T DO THIS.

AND I AM NOT A SPEAKER.

I HATE PUBLIC SPEAKING FOR ME TO DO THIS HEARING THIS IS SHOCKING.

AND NOT HAVING IT ON THE NEWS, NOT HAVING IT ANYWHERE.

THE ONLY WAY WE FOUND OUT ABOUT IT'S GOING DOWN HOCKEY ROAD AND SEEING THE LITTLE SIGNS.

WHAT'S DATA CENTER? WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? NO ONE KNOWS.

SO I'M SORRY.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE A HARD JOB.

I KNOW YOU HAVE INCREDIBLY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE LIVING IN MY COUNTY.

I'M PLEASED TO BE A GOON RESIDENT, BUT DO NOT DO THIS TO US.

AND WHY WOULDN'T YOU SEND A FLYER OUT TO YOUR RESIDENT SAYING, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT.

IT'S COMMON SENSE.

I'VE LIVED WITH NO COMMON SENSE.

I'M FROM CALIFORNIA .

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

UH, THAT, THAT'S IT, SIR.

SO WE WE'RE, WE'RE CLOSING THE, THE, UH, SESSION

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SPENCER SMITH.

I GIVE IT 1 1 56 92 MOSAIC BOULEVARD.

I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON THE GRL NUCLEAR POWER PLANT.

1986, IT OVERHEATED AND BLEW UP.

THEY DID, THEY DEFINED A, AN AREA AROUND IT THAT WAS FORBIDDEN OF ALL LIFE.

SO EVERYBODY WHO LIVED THERE AND SURVIVED HAD TO GET OUT OF IT AND THEY CAN'T COME BACK.

THE ESTIMATE OF TIME FOR THEM TO COME BACK IS A THOUSAND YEARS.

WELL, YOU'VE PICKED THIS TECHNOLOGY ZONE IN THE WRONG PLACE.

YOU'VE YOU'VE GOT 330,000 RESIDENTS OF HENRICO COUNTY.

YOU'VE GOT, UH, HOTELS JUST TWO MILES AWAY.

ANY ACCIDENT WOULD MAKE ALL OF THIS LAND DEAD BUILDINGS SKELETON AND TALI HASAM IN HIS BOOK, THE BLACK SWAN SAYS, ACCIDENTS HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK YOU'RE DOING.

AND NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK YOU GOT COVERED, YOU DON'T.

SO IF YOU'RE PREPARED TO DESTROY HALF OF ENRICO COUNTY AND EVERYTHING AROUND HERE, A GOOD PLACE TO LOCATE THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE WOULD BE UP HERE.

THERE'S ONLY 900 PEOPLE LIVE IN GWIN, WHEREAS YOU GOT 330,000 WITHIN TWO MILES OF THE WHERE YOU WANNA PUT THE POWERPOINT , YOU'RE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE.

UH, I'M GONNA ASK, UH, I'M GONNA CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD AND ASK FOR WHAT, A FIVE MINUTE, FIVE MINUTE RECESS.

[04:22:18]

ALRIGHT,

[XVII. Public Hearings]

I'LL NOW RECONVENE.

AND, UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS, UH, UH, COUNTRYWIDE ORDINANCE AMENDING GLAND COUNTY CODE CHAPTER EIGHT LICENSES AND BUSINESS REGULATIONS TO ADD ARTICLE 11, A TECHNOLOGY ZONES SECTION EIGHT THROUGH 100 THROUGH EIGHT DASH 1 0 6.

ESTABLISHING A TECHNOLOGY ZONE STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT WE DEFER THIS, UH, ON THIS TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO THE NOVEMBER 6TH MEETING.

SARAH WORLEY WILL, DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, WILL SPEAK TO THE MOTION

[1. Countywide Ordinance amending Goochland County Code Chapter 8 (Licenses and Business Regulations) to add Article IIA (Technology Zones), Sections 8-100 through 8-106, establishing a Technology Zone. Staff is requesting deferral of this ordinance to the Board of Supervisors' November 6, 2025 meeting.]

TO DEFER.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

CHAIRMAN, BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD.

MY NAME IS SARAH WORLEY.

I'M THE DEPUTY COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR ECONOMIC AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT HERE IN GLAND COUNTY.

STAFF IS REQUESTING A DEFERRAL OF THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO THE NOVEMBER 6TH, 2025 BOARD MEETING.

AS YOU KNOW, THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE AND THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT ARE TWO COMPLIMENTARY ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.

THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE IS A DESIGNATION THAT PROVIDES FINANCIAL INCENTIVES TO ENCOURAGE PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND JOB CREATION WITHIN A DESIGNATED AREA.

WHILE THE TECHNOLOGY OVERLAY DISTRICT SETS THIS PLANNING AND DESIGN FRAMEWORK, UM, THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE OFFERS ECONOMIC INCENTIVES TO ATTRACT THOSE BUSINESSES.

IN JULY, THE BOARD INITIATED BOTH AMENDMENTS, REFERRED THE TOD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE FOR THIS EVENING.

DURING THE COURSE OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, THE TOD WAS DEFERRED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ONE MONTH TO GAIN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INPUT.

THE TOD IS NOW SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD BY THE BOARD NEXT MONTH.

SO DEFERRAL OF THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE WOULD ALLOW BOTH PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS TO BE CONSIDERED TOGETHER NEXT MONTH ON NOVEMBER 6TH.

UM, BOARD MEMBERS, YOU'VE HEARD THE PRESENTATION.

UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? DO WE HAVE PUBLIC, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, WHERE AM I? I MOVE THE BOARD, UH, DEFER, UH, THIS ISSUE TILL NOVEMBER 6TH, UH, 2025 FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR CONSIDERATION OF THIS ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING THE TECH, THE TECHNOLOGY ZONE.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? SAY A SHOULD ROLL CALL.

AND MR. WINFREY? YES.

THE NEXT IS, UH, 65 4 51, 64 51.

UH,

[2. District 4 - RZ-2025-00004 - Application by Goochland County Board of Supervisors for a proffer amendment to rezoning case RZ-2018-00004 to remove the access requirements on 1.67 acres at 333, 335, 337 and 339 Pond View Lane on Tax Map Nos. 58-16-0-2-0, 58-16-0-3-0, 58-16-0-4-0, and 58-16-0-5-0. The property is zoned Residential, Neighborhood (R-N). The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Suburban Residential.]

[04:25:03]

DISTRICT FOUR RZ 20 25 4.

APPLICATION BY GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR A PROFFER AMENDMENT TO REZONING CASE RZ 20 18 4.

TO REMOVE THE ACCESS REQUIREMENTS ON 1.67 ACRES AT 3 3 3 3 35, 3 37 AND 3 39.

POND VIEW LANE ON TAX MAP NUMBERS 58 16 0 2 0 58, 16 0 3 0 58, 16 0 4 OH AND 58, 16 0 5 OH.

THE PROPERTY IS ON RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD RM.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA IS SUBURBAN RESIDENTIAL.

MR. RAY CASH WILL PRESENT THE MOTION.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UH, DR.

RAIL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

THAT'S A LOT OF DESCRIPTION FOR A CASE THAT IS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER IN STATURE.

UM, THIS IS LOCATED IN THE EASTERN PART OF THE COUNTY, UH, ALONG HOCKETT ROAD.

THE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE AERIAL PHOTO HERE, IT IS LOCATED DIRECTLY SOUTH OF THE PARK AT CENTERVILLE.

THE LOTS THAT ARE THE SUBJECT TO THIS PROFFER AMENDMENT ARE OUTLINED IN RED.

THE CURRENT, UH, ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE A COMBINATION OF RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND RPUD, WHICH IS RESIDENTIAL PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT.

UH, ACROSS THE STREET IS THE READERS BRANCH SUBDIVISION, AS I REFERENCED BEFORE THE PARK CENTERVILLE IS TO NORTH.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A NEW SUBDIVISION THAT WAS ZONED, UH, LAST YEAR THAT'S COMING TO THE SOUTH.

UH, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES CALL FOR THIS AREA TO BE BUIN RESIDENTIAL.

THE, UH, DISTINCT SORT OF BROWN COLOR TO THE SOUTH THAT IS SEMIPUBLIC AND THAT'S THE FORMER RELOCATION OF A CHURCH.

IT'S STILL THERE.

UM, PARTIALLY, UM, PART OF THE LAND HAS BEEN ABSORBED INTO A NEW SUBDIVISION.

THIS CASE WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN NOVEMBER OF 2018.

FROM AGRICULTURAL, A TWO TO RN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A FIVE LOT SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION WITH SEVEN PROFFERED CONDITIONS.

AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE UM, CONCEPT PLAN THAT'S OUTLINED TO THE SIDE, THERE WAS ONE EXISTING HOUSE WHICH BECAME LOT.

ONE OF THE SUBDIVISION THAT GAINED THAT HAS ITS ACCESS FROM H ROAD.

THE OTHER LOTS, 2, 3, 4, AND FIVE DO HAVE FRONTAGE ALONG POND VIEW LANE, WHICH IS A ROAD THAT WAS REQUIRED TO BE DESIGNED TO BE THAT STANDARDS.

UH, IT HAD A LOT OF THE COMMON, UM, ATTRIBUTES THAT WE WOULD LOOK FOR.

IN A TYPICAL ZONE CASE.

THERE WAS CASH PROFFERS.

THERE WAS A MAXIMUM OF FIVE LOTS.

THERE WAS A RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ALONG ROAD.

UM, THE PROVISION OF OPEN SPACE AND THE PROVISION FOR SHARED DRIVEWAY ACCESS.

AND THAT'S THE CONCERN FOR WHICH WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

SO THE PROPOSAL IS TO REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR SHARED DRIVEWAY ACCESS FOR THOSE LOTS, WHICH FRONT ALONG POND VIEW, LANE AND ERROR STAFF HAD APPROVED BUILDING PERMITS FOR LOTS TWO AND THREE TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS, WHICH PUT BOTH OF THOSE LOTS IN VIOLATION.

UM, THE APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT WOULD RELIEVE THE BURDEN OF THOSE EXISTING HOMEOWNERS FOR THE NON-COMPLIANCE, UH, TO THE 2018 PROFFERS FOR TWO AND THREE.

ADDITIONALLY, LOTS FOUR AND FIVE ARE SEEKING AND CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND REMOVAL OF THIS REQUIREMENT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO HAVE INDIVIDUAL DRIVEWAYS.

SO YOU HAVE A CONSISTENT PATTERN ALONG THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED AND IS CURRENTLY, UH, REQUESTED THROUGH THIS AMENDED PROFFER.

THE YOUTH WOULD COMPLY WITH THE CONFERENCE AND PLAN.

THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MEETING BACK IN JUNE, UM, AND THE ATTENDEES, UM, WAS MR. SPOON, HOWER AGENDA.

IT WAS NICE.

THANKS FOR COMING.

UM, AT AUGUST 21ST, UM, UH, PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THIS WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL, UM, OUT OF FIVE VOTE FIVE OH AND NO ONE SPOKE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO AGAIN, A QUICK, UH, WALKTHROUGH WITH THE ORIGINAL PROFFERS OUT, UH, LAID OUT.

THE REASON WE'RE HERE AGAIN, IS TO REMOVE THE SHARED ACCESS DRIVEWAY ACCESS REQUIREMENT.

IT'S NOT REALLY COMMON TO HAVE THAT TYPE OF CONDITION ON THE LOCAL ROAD ANYWAY.

UM, AND THERE IS NO HARM FOR THE REMOVING OF THIS PROFFER.

INSTEAD, IT'S A BENEFIT TO THE HOMEOWNERS THAT ALREADY, UM, LIVE THERE AND ARE THOSE WHO SEEKING TO LIVE THERE AS WELL.

UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IN YOUR, UM, ORIGINAL APPROVAL IS WE'RE REALLY REMOVING THE FORMER PROFFER NUMBER FOUR.

UM, THAT'S YOU SEEN, STRUCK OUT ON THE SCREEN HERE.

AND THEN THE OTHER ADJUSTMENTS IS REALLY TO DO THE RENUMBERING TO THE REMAINING PROFFERS.

OF COURSE, I'M HERE

[04:30:01]

FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

AND IN THIS CASE, UM, JAMIE, SHERRY, OR MYSELF WOULD BE THE APPLICANT FOR THIS.

THANKS.

ANY QUESTIONS, MR. CHAIRMAN? MR. YES.

UM, THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF AN ANCILLARY, BUT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION GOING ON ON PRIVATE ROADS.

MM-HMM .

PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO? UH, AND, AND I DID NOTE THAT IT WAS NOTED THIS WAS DUE TO STAFF ERROR, AND SO I'M GONNA BE COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THIS.

MM-HMM .

UH, DOES THIS HAVE ANY KIND OF, UH, TIE IN TO THESE OTHER CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT IS A DRIVEWAY AND WHAT IS A ROAD? UM, UH, NO SPECIFICALLY POND VIEW.

LANE WAS DESIGNED TO BE BUILT TO PUBLIC ROAD STANDARDS.

UM, PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FOR THAT, IF, IF WE LOOK BACK AGAIN FOR THE CONCEPT PLAN, UM, AND IT, BECAUSE ORIGINALLY I THINK WHEN THEY DID THE CONDITION, AGAIN, I'M LOOKING BACK, TRYING TO ANALYZE WHY IT WAS DONE.

SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT WAY.

UM, IT WAS A POTENTIAL PROBABLY FOR MORE DEVELOPMENT ALONG, UM, FURTHER DOWN POND VIEW LANE, UM, THERE, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER HOUSES AND EXISTING PROPERTY THERE.

AND AS YOU KNOW, THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL REZONING TO THE PROPERTY, TO THE SOUTH.

SO AT THE TIME, THE CONCEPT WAS TO SORT OF LIMIT THE ACCESSES ALONG THERE WITH THE SHARED DRIVEWAYS.

UM, THE ROAD SHOULD BE PUBLIC AND DESIGNED TO PUBLIC STANDARDS UP TO THIS LINE HERE.

IT'S REALLY THE, ESSENTIALLY THE END OF THE LOTS FOR THIS, UM, AT THE OPEN SPACE.

SO IT, UM, DOES NOT HAVE A BEARING ON THIS OTHER CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING REGARDING PRIVATE ROADS OR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS.

AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, I'M COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THIS.

WE AREN'T GETTING SIDEWAYS WITH VDOT AND THEIR DISTANCE BETWEEN CUTS AND, AND, UH, DRIVEWAY ACCESS AND, AND, YEAH.

NOT, NOT FOR OUR LOCAL ROAD REQUIREMENT.

OKAY, SO THE CHOICES BEFORE US IS TO TAKE A MOTION TO DEFER OR, UH, I THINK WE'VE GOT RESIDENTS HERE WHO'VE COME TO THIS MEETING TO SPEAK.

SO THAT, THAT WASN'T, UM, A BEARING ON THAT.

ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WE HAVE TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

LET'S OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK FOR AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, I MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE PROFFER AMENDMENT, RZ DASH 2025 DASH FOUR APPLICATION BY THE GLAND COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU GIVE, UH, DR.

LEY, WOULD YOU DO A ROLL CALL FOR US? YES, SIR.

LET'S START WITH MR. LYLE.

YAY.

AND MR. CHRISTIE? YES.

MR. SPOON.

HOWER? YES.

MR. VAERS? YES.

AND MR. WINFREY? YES.

THANK YOU MR. CASH.

THE NEXT ITEM

[3. District 3 - RZ-2025-00002 Application by Serenity Trail LLC (Project: Serenity Trail) requesting to rezone 109.22 acres from Agricultural, Limited (A-2) to Residential, Preservation (R-P) with proffered conditions, at 2453 Maidens Road on Tax Map No. 31-1-0-83-0. The Comprehensive Plan designates this area as Rural Enhancement Area.]

IS 64 36.

DISTRICT THREE RZ 20 25 2.

APPLICATION BY SERENITY TRAIL, LLC, THE PROJECT SERENITY TRAIL REQUESTING TO REZONE 109.22 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL PRESERVATION RP WITH PROFFERED CONDITIONS AT 24 53 ENS ROAD ON TAX MAP NUMBER 31 1 0 83 0.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATES THIS AREA AS RULE ENHANCEMENT AREA.

MR. RAY CASH WILL PRESENT.

THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN.

UH, IF I DIDN'T STATE PREVIOUSLY FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS RAY CASH, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PLANNING.

UM, THERE WAS A REQUEST, UH, THIS AFTERNOON THAT WAS RECEIVED FROM THE APPLICANT, UM, SERENITY TRAILS, LLC, UH, THAT REQUESTED A ONE MONTH DEFERRAL OF THE APPLICATION TO THE BOARD'S NOVEMBER 6TH, 2025 PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THE BOARD, UM, YOU COULD DECIDE TO DEFER WITHOUT HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING.

TONIGHT.

BOARD THE BOARD MAY HEAR THE CASE, WHICH WOULD BE A STAFF PRESENTATION, HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING TO ALLOW RESIDENTS PRESENT TO SPEAK AND CONTINUE VOTE TO AN ACTION TO INCLUDE DEFERRAL.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, STAFF WOULD REQUEST THAT SHOULD THE BOARD, UM, ADD, UM, ACCEPT THE DEFERRAL OF THE APPLICANT, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU'D ADD YOUR OWN ONE WITH DEFERRAL AT THE TIME TO THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST SO THAT THE ITEM IS DEFERRED TO THE BOARD'S DECEMBER 2ND, 2025 PUBLIC HEARING.

THE BOARD DOES HAVE A FULL AGENDA, AS YOU MAY ANTICIPATE FOR NOVEMBER 6TH, AS WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT, UM, AS WELL, UM, A LONGER DEFERRAL WOULD ALLOW SUFFICIENT TIME FOR STAFF TO VIEW WITH APPLICANT, PROPOSES FOR THE APPLICANT TO COMMUNICATE THAT TO BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND FOR STAFF TO COMMUNICATE THE CHANGES TO ANY APPLICATION TO THE PUBLIC.

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UM, AND IT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UM, THIS IS SHORT NOTICE.

SO I THINK AND, AND GIVING CONSIDERATION TO THOSE WHO CAME HERE.

UH, BUT NOTICE TO THE REQUEST TO DEFER, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE ALLOW THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING PART OF IT TO CONTINUE AND THEN, UM, MAYBE GET YOUR PRESENTATION AS WELL AND THEN DECIDE WHETHER WE WANT TO DEFER OR, UH, TAKE A MOTION ON THE RIGHT, ON THE ISSUE AT HAND.

RIGHT.

DOES THAT, DOES THAT SOUND FAIR TO ALL BOARD OF SUPERVISORS? IF THAT'S YOUR DIRECTION, I CAN PROCEED WITH THE YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR PRESENTATION, SO YEAH.

LET'S DO THAT.

UM, NATURAL TO WHAT IT IS CURRENTLY.

IT GIVES ME A CHANCE TO TALK, SO I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT FOR YOU.

UM, SO AS WE STATED BEFORE, THIS IS IN DISTRICT THREE.

IT IS A NEW REZONING FOR SERENITY TRAIL LLC 24 53 MEETINGS ROAD, UM, 109, UH, A LITTLE OVER 109 ACRES.

THE ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO, THE REQUEST IS TO GO RESIDENTIAL PRESERVATION.

RP, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

OKAY, I APOLOGIZE.

THE IS LIKE, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW THROUGH THIS? YES.

LOST THE SCREEN.

UM, SO THIS IS GENERALLY IN THE CENTRAL NORTHERN PORTION OF THE COUNTY.

UH, THE, UH, SUBJECT PARCEL IS OUTLINED IN RED.

THERE IS A SMALL RED SQUARE IN THE CENTER THAT IS A CEMETERY WITHIN THE PROPERTY.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL LIMITED, A TWO AS OUR PRIMARILY THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

THERE IS A, UH, TWO RESERV, UM, RP SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE IN THE VICINITY, AS YOU CAN SEE ALSO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

THE 2035 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DOES REFER TO THIS PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AS RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.

THERE IS A SEMI-PUBLIC DESIGNATION, AND THAT'S FOR THE EXISTING CEMETERY THAT'S, UH, PRETTY MUCH CENTER OF THE PROJECT.

THE PROPERTY CURRENTLY OPERATES AS A RESIDENCE, IT'S KNOWN AS SERENITY FARM, AND INCLUDES A HOUSE WITH A POOL GARAGE AND ACCESSORY BUILDINGS, UH, WITHIN THE PROPERTY IS ALSO A TWO ACRE POND.

UH, THERE'S A SEPARATE PARCEL AS A REFERENCE FOR THE CEMETERY.

APPROXIMATELY 40 ACRES OF THE PROPERTY IS UTILIZED, UH, FOR HARVESTING OF HAY.

THE REMAIN REMAINING ACREAGE IS GENERALLY FORESTED.

WETLANDS AND STEEP SLOPES ARE ALSO, UH, THROUGHOUT THE PARCEL.

UH, THE G THE CURRENT VIEW SHED, UM, AS WHERE SOME IMAGES OF THIS IS FROM MAINTENANCE ROAD IS GENERALLY OPEN.

IT'S AN OPEN FIELD ON EITHER SIDE OF THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY.

SO THE PROPOSAL, AGAIN IS TO REZONE 109.22 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL LIMIT, A TWO TO RESIDENTIAL PRESERVATION RP WITH PROFIT CONDITIONS.

UH, PART OF THE PROFIT CONDITIONS WOULD BE A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 24 SINGLE FAMILY DWELLS.

THEY WILL BE ON WELL AND SEPTIC.

THE PROPOSAL DOES INCLUDE 50% OF THE TOTAL ACREAGE, AND THAT'S A REQUIREMENT WITHIN THE RE WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL PRESERVATION DISTRICT.

THOSE ACREAGE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOUGHT AS PRESERVATION TRACKED.

UH, THE LOTS THEMSELVES HAVE TO BE A MINIMUM OF TWO ACRES.

THERE ARE 11 PROFIT CONDITIONS THAT CAME FORWARD WITH THIS APPLICATION TO INCLUDE A 10 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION UPON MANNING ROAD, MAINS ROAD.

THERE IS AN EXISTING RESIDENCE AND OUT BUILDINGS, WHICH WOULD REMAIN AND BECOME ONE OF THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT THAT, UM, CURRENT STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY INCLUDES OUT BUILDINGS, ONE OF WHICH IS USED AS A YOGA STUDIO, AND THAT WOULD REMAIN AS THE OPEN SPACE CAN SERVE AS A CLUBHOUSE AMENITY.

UH, THE REMAINING ACREAGE, UH, OUTSIDE THE LOTS WOULD BE MAINTAINED AS PRO PRESERVATION AREAS AND OPEN SPACE.

THIS IS EXHIBIT A THAT'S OFFERED AS ACTUALLY SHEET FOUR OF THE EXHIBIT.

I BELIEVE THERE'S A FIVE PAGE EXHIBIT THAT CAME FORWARD WITH THIS.

THIS IS THE BEST TO SHOW THE GENERAL LAYOUT OF THE SUBDIVISION, THE LIGHT, THE, I'M SORRY, THE LOTS ARE THE WHITE AREAS HERE, THE PRESERVATION TRACK AS WELL AS THE OPEN SPACE ROUTE LINE IN GREEN.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE THROUGH THIS, THERE'S CERTAIN AREAS OF HERE THAT HAVE, UM, WETLANDS AND OTHER THINGS WITH, YOU KNOW, OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL FUTURISTS WITHIN THIS PROPERTY.

UM, AT THE CENTRAL LOCATION WHERE THE EXISTING HOUSE AND CEMETERY HERE, OH, I DID NOT MEAN TO JUMP FORWARD ON THIS.

THE POND THAT WAS REFERENCED, UM, IS THE LARGE, UH, WHAT LOOKS LIKE A POND.

A POND IN THE, UH, NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, THERE IS A BUFFER, UM, PROVISION WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY REMAIN,

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IT WON'T BE A TREE BUFFER, IT'LL JUST BE A BUFFERED SEPARATION.

UM, COMING OFF OF, UM, UM, MAINS ROAD HERE.

SO THE RESIDENTIAL PRESERVATION TRACK AS REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE DOES REQUIRE 50% OF THE LOTS, 50% OF THE OVERALL ACREAGE TO BE OPEN SPACE.

THERE IS A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF TWO ACRES.

AND THE INTENT OF THIS IS REALLY TO PER, YOU KNOW, PRESERVE THE, THE RURAL FEEL OF AN AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VIEW SHEDS AND OPEN AND SPACE TO MAKE IT MORE NATURAL, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT TO THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN HOA THAT IS TO PROVIDE FOR THE LONG TERM MANAGEMENT OF THE PRESERVATION TRACK AS, AS WELL AS THE OPEN SPACE FEATURES SUCH AS PRIVATE ROADS.

THERE'S ALSO A FIRE, UM, DRY HYDRANT AND CONNECTION THAT WOULD BE NEEDED AT THE POND AS WELL AS AN ACCESS ROAD TO THAT.

PART OF THE REQUIREMENTS AT PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS TO PROVIDE US A MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT IS SUBJECT TO STAFF, UM, REVIEW FOR THE MANAGEMENT OF THE PRESERVATION TRACK.

THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, YOU KNOW, CONSIST THE AREAS FOR THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES CALL FOR THAT.

THE INTENT OF RURAL ENHANCEMENT IS TO PROVIDE FOR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AGRICULTURAL, AND FORESTAL USES.

UH, RE RESIDENTIAL USES ARE INTENDED TO HAVE LARGE AMOUNTS OF OPEN SPACE.

TRY TO PRESERVE THE NATURAL GRAY, THE PLANTS AND MATERIALS IN THE AREA, MINIMIZE THE IMPACTS UPON ROADS AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THIS PROPOSAL WOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

MAINES ROADS ITSELF IS IDENTIFIED AS A MAJOR COLLECTOR IN THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARE PLAN.

THE COUNTY CODE DOES REQUIRE RIGHT TURN LANES WHEN YOU HAVE FIVE MORE LOTS ON THAT MAJOR COLLECTOR.

DEVELOPMENTS OF 10 OR MORE LOTS DO REQUIRE LEFT TURN LANES.

THE APPLICANT DID PROVIDE A TURN LANE ANALYSIS, UM, SHOWING THAT NO TURN LANES WERE WARRANTED.

VDOT DID CONCUR WITH THAT.

HOWEVER, OUR CODE DOES REQUIRE TO BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANES.

PREVIOUSLY, THE APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED A WAIVER TO TURN LANES THAT HAS SINCE BEEN WITHDRAWN.

UH, THE WAIVER IS NO LONGER A PART OF THEIR REQUEST.

THIS IS AGAIN, VIEW OF MAIDEN'S ROAD AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT VIEW OF OF MAIDEN'S ROAD TO THE LEFT IS NORTH, VIEWING SOUTH ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

THERE WAS A COMMUNITY MAIL MEETING HELD BACK IN APRIL.

UM, SUPERVISOR CHAIR WINFREY AND P COMMISSIONER KIMBERLY WERE ATTENDANCE IN ATTENDANCE.

CITIZEN COMMENTS REALLY RELATED TO THESE TOPICS WE HAVE ON THE SCREEN, AS IS COMMON WITH RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY IN RURAL AREAS.

CONCERN REGARDING TRAFFIC, STORM WATER RUNOFF, UM, CONCERNS THAT WE OFTEN HEAR ABOUT IMPACTS UPON EXISTING WELLS AND SEPTIC IN IN THE AREA.

QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE OPEN SPACE AND PRESERVATION TRACKS WILL BE MAINTAINED OVER TIME AND HOW THIS MAY IMPACT THE RURAL NATURE OF THE COUNTY AND THE AREA IN GENERAL.

AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING IN JULY, UM, WE HAD TWO COMMISSIONERS THAT WERE ABSENT.

NON-CITIZENS DID SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THE REQUEST, UM, OUTLINING SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE COMMUNITY MEETING.

IN ADDITIONAL TO ELECTRICAL INFRASTRUCTURE FAILURES.

UM, MOTION WAS MADE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

IT DID FAIL AS THE MAJORITY VOTED AGAINST THE MOTION TWO TO ONE.

SO THIS APPLICATION COMES FORWARD TO YOU TONIGHT WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL.

PREVIOUSLY ON SEPTEMBER 4TH, THE BOARD DID APPROVE AND I'M SORRY, DID GRANT AND, UM, THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR A DEFERRAL TO TONIGHT'S MEETING SO QUICKLY, THE REZONING PLAN, THERE IS A CONCEPT PLAN THAT COMES FORWARD WITH FIVE SHEETS THAT WERE PROFFERED.

UM, THE DEVELOPER WILL HAVE A DRY HYDRANT THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE INSTALLED BACK HERE IN THE POND FOR FIRE PROTECTION.

UM, THE EXISTING RESIDENCE WILL REMAIN AND THE HOA WILL HAVE TO BE ESTABLISHED FOR BOTH THE OPEN SPACE AND PRESERVATION TRACK.

THE WAIVER FROM THE LEFT TURN REQUIREMENTS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED, BUT THEY NO LONGER REQUEST THE WAIVER TO THE LEFT OR RIGHT TURN LANES.

THERE ARE SOME OUTSTANDING CONCERNS REGARDING THE CONDITION OF MAINTENANCE ROAD IN THE AREA.

I'LL GIVE YOU A SUMMARY QUICKLY OF THE PROFIT CONDITIONS.

CONCEPTUAL REZONING PLAN, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THERE IS SOME MINIMIZATION OF LAND CLEARING REALLY FOCUSED AROUND THE HOUSE SITES AND DRIVEWAYS.

NOT BROAD CLEARING OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THE REQUIREMENT OF THE HOA, THE PRESERVATION TRACK, WHICH AGAIN IS AN ORDINANCE REQUIREMENT, THE PRESERVATION PLAN FOR THE COMMON AREAS.

TALK ABOUT HOW THE COMMUNITY SPACES ARE GONNA BE IN A UTILIZED THE DENSITY LIMITATION OF 24 LOTS.

THERE IS A RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION ALONG MAIDENS ROAD.

UH, THE ROADS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT WILL, UM, BE BUILT TO OUR STANDARDS AND BEAT OUT STANDARDS.

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THE CEMETERY WILL BE PRESERVED.

TYPICAL CONDITION.

THERE IS A CASH PROFFER, UM, THAT CURRENTLY STANDS AT $13,781 FOR EACH RESIDENTIAL LOT CONSTRUCTED.

AND A PROVISION THAT WELLS WILL BE DEEP, WELLS THAT BE AT LEAST A HUNDRED FOOT DEEP.

UM, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND STAFF IS OF COURSE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. CASH? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK IF, IF I MAY? UH, HOW DO I GET TO WHERE I NEED TO BE? DID YOU GIVE US A PRESENTATION? I DID THIS ONE.

LET SEE.

OOPS, SORRY, I APOLOGIZE.

THAT'S OKAY.

WAS NOT AWARE WE HAD ONE.

REALLY? WERE BUT ? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THE CALL DID.

WAIT A MINUTE, RAY, COME HERE.

WHICH, IT'S THE VERY BOTTOM ONE.

THIS ONE HERE.

THAT OUR, THAT'S OURS.

OH, DID YOU RECEIVE A PRESENTATION? OH, OH, OH.

UM, NO, THIS IS THE COUNTY POND VIEW.

LEVITT.

WHO DID YOU SEND IT TO? LISA, YOU SENT IT TO ME.

DAMN.

I DID.

I SENT A PDF AND I SENT A POWERPOINT.

IF YOU GIMME FIVE MINUTES, I'LL GO GET IT.

I'M CONCERNED.

I'LL GO GET IT.

TAKE A VOTE AT THE END, RIGHT? OKAY.

SORRY.

WHAT'S YOUR, WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME? MY LAST NAME IS COURTNEY.

SO DO WE WANNA TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BE PREPARED? THAT GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME? IT SHOULD.

MAIDEN'S ROAD, PUTTING IN THE TURN LANES AND THE ENTRANCE.

WE'RE GONNA TAKE A RECESS FOR FIVE MINUTES.

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UH, MY NAME IS SCOTT COURTNEY.

I AM WITH ARM GROUP.

WITH ME TONIGHT IS, UH, DAVID, JEANETTE AND HIS WIFE CHRISTINA.

THEY ARE SERENITY TRAIL, LLC.

UH, I WANT TO GO THROUGH BRIEFLY THE, UH, PRESENTATION TONIGHT.

UM, AND THEN DAVID'S GONNA HAVE A FEW WORDS.

SERENITY TRAIL.

UH, WE HAVE PUT IN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO THIS PROJECT.

A LOT OF, UH, UH, EFFORT HAS GONE INTO THAT AND A LOT OF, UH, DECISIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO, I THINK, UH, BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.

ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, CLARIFY REAL QUICK, THE HATCHED AREAS IN PURPLE ARE NOT WETLANDS.

THOSE ARE SLOPES THAT ARE A LITTLE STEEPER THAN 15%.

THE, THE WET, SORRY, THE WETLAND IS ACTUALLY ALONG THIS EDGE, WHICH IS THE, THE CREEK EDGE.

SO JUST WANT TO DO QUICK CLARIFICATION SO THAT YOU DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF WETLANDS ON THE PROPERTY.

UM, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE AN AREA THAT ACTUALLY HAS A LOT OF OPEN SPACE TO IT.

UH, ALREADY CLEARED.

IT IS, UH, PASTURE LAND.

AND SO WITH THAT, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CLEARING OF TREES, NOR WILL THERE BE A LOT OF GRADING.

UH, AS WELL.

THESE ARE ACTUAL PICTURES FROM THE PROPERTY.

UH, IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT THERE, YOU RECOGNIZE THE, UH, SORT OF THE YOGA STUDIO, THE, THE ENTRY INTO THE MAIN HOUSE, AND THEN ALSO THE POND, THE EIGHT ACRE POND OR THE, UH, LARGER POND THAT'S THERE, UM, WHICH IS A VERY NICE, UH, SERENE PLACE IN SERENITY TRAIL.

UH, SOME OF THE HOMES THAT MAY ACTUALLY BE, UH, CONSTRUCTED WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS.

UH, SOME OF THE, UH, SINGLE, UH, STORY AND MAYBE A FEW, UM, TWO STORY AS WELL AS PREVIOUSLY STATED.

THE, UH, REQUEST IS FOR REZONING FROM A ONE TO RURAL PRESERVATION.

AS PART OF RURAL PRESERVATION.

AT LEAST 50, 55 0% OF THE PROPERTY, UH, MUST BE IN PRESERVATION AREA.

THEREFORE, IF WE ACTUALLY START LOOKING IN, IN THIS PROPERTY, ACTUALLY ALSO IS WITHIN THE, UH, RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA OF THE COMP PLAN.

SO IF WE TALK ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS OF RURAL ENHANCEMENT, THERE'S LOW DENSITY, THERE'S, UM, NO PLAN FOR PUBLIC UTILITIES.

THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE, LIMITED GRADING AND MINIMAL VISUAL IMPACT.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE FOR US TO DO TONIGHT IS TO TALK ABOUT THOSE ITEMS AS THEY COME ACROSS.

SO, TWO ACRE MINIMUM, THAT IS THE LOW DENSITY DEFINITION.

UH, WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE RURAL PRESERVATION, UH, AND THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT AREA.

UH, SO WITH THAT, EACH, EACH PROPERTY IS, UM, TWO, TWO ACRES AVERAGE.

OKAY? SO THERE IS, OVERALL, THERE IS ONE HOUSE PER FOUR AND A HALF ACRES OF THE OVERALL PROPERTY.

UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY MEETING TOPICS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, OR THAT WERE TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, UH, PRESERVATION SPACE, TRAFFIC, UH, AND THEN THE SHALLOW WELLS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, SOME OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD SHALLOW WELLS, WELLS THAT HAVE GONE DRY.

UM, SO WE'VE ACTUALLY HAVE PROFFERED SOME THINGS TO ACTUALLY ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS.

PROFFER NUMBER TWO, UH, CERTAINLY LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF CLEARING IN THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY STATED, UH, TO A MAXIMUM OF, I THINK 40 FEET AROUND THE HOUSE.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S IF THAT'S EVEN NEEDED, DEPENDING ON WHERE THE HOUSE IS.

UM, SO AGAIN, THERE'S VERY LIMITED GRADING.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE LARGEST PART OF LAND DISTURBANCE FOR THIS ENTIRE PROJECT IS GONNA BE OUT ON

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SO AGAIN, WE MEET THE, UH, PREFERENCE AND THE DEFINITION AND, AND REQUIREMENTS OF RULE PRESERVATION, UH, THE, THE ENHANCEMENT, UH, RULE ENHANCEMENT.

UM, AS WE ALSO GO THROUGH, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANES.

THE OTHER IS, AND I'M GOING TO SKIP AHEAD FOR JUST A MINUTE, IS THE ACTUAL, UM, ROAD IMPROVEMENT THAT WE ARE MAKING.

SO THIS IS MAIDEN'S ROAD.

THIS IS OUR NEW ENTRANCE INTO THE PROPERTY.

UH, SO WIDER LANES INSTEAD OF NINE FOOT EIGHT OR NINE FOOT LANES THAT ARE THERE NOW WE'RE GOING TO 11 FOOT.

ALSO BECAUSE OF THE TURN LANES, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UH, AREA THAT IS TO SHIFT THE LANE OVER.

AND THAT ENDS UP CREATING A LOT OF SPACE BETWEEN THE OPPOSING LANES SO THAT, UH, WE'VE HEARD THAT THERE'S BEEN ISSUES WITH MIRRORS BUMPING ON BIGGER TRUCKS AND YOU HAVE TO GET OVER INTO THE DITCH OR IN OTHER THINGS, NOT IN THIS AREA.

THE, THESE HAVE THE WIDER, UH, CERTAINLY LANES CREATES MORE SEPARATION FROM VEHICLES, UH, AS WELL.

AND THEN ALSO THE CONCERN WAS THAT RIGHT IN THIS CURVE THERE WAS, UH, DRAINAGE ISSUES.

AND SO WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIX THAT DURING THIS CONSTRUCTION.

UM, SHALLOW WELLS, UH, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THAT, UH, SHALLOW WELLS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING DRY AND, AND AGAIN, THE VERY LAST PROFFER THAT WE HAD, UH, THAT WAS RED, IS THAT ALL OF OUR LOTS HAVE DEEP WELLS.

THEY'RE AT LEAST A HUNDRED FOOT.

THEY HAVE TO GO INTO THE FRACTURED BEDROCK.

NO MATTER WHAT THE DEPTH IS, THEY'RE GOING INTO FRACTURED BEDROCK.

SO, UH, WHETHER IT'S A HUNDRED OR 200, 300 FEET, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE HEADED JUST TO STAY AWAY FROM THE, UM, THE, UH, SHALLOW, UH, AQUIFERS.

AND AGAIN, I'VE GOT A GRAPHIC IN HERE.

WE'RE GOING DOWN INTO THIS GRAY AREA, UH, NOT INTO THESE, UH, UNCONFINED AQUIFERS, UH, OR CONFINED AQUIFER THAT IS, IS ABOVE, UH, THAT AREA.

SO WITH THAT, UH, THERE IS NO INTENT TO HAVE A CENTRALIZED WATER SYSTEM OR COUNTY PROVIDED WATER.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS REGARDING THE RURAL ENHANCEMENT.

UM, AS, AS WE ARE, UH, CONSIDERING THIS, UH, I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE, UH, TALKED ABOUT OR WE HAVE, UH, CERTAINLY THOUGHT ABOUT THE SAFETY, UH, IN OUR AREA OF, UH, IN MAKING THE CHANGES THAT WE CAN MAKE TO ENHANCE, UH, NOT ONLY THE SAFETY AND THE COMMUNITY, UH, BUT ALSO THAT WE ARE PROVIDING A GOOD PROJECT FOR GLAND AND ITS RESIDENTS.

UH, RIGHT NOW I'M GONNA LET DAVID COME UP AND, AND SPEAK JUST A LITTLE BIT AS WELL.

THANK YOU, SCOTT.

UM, WE PREFER KEEPING THE ROADS AND THE HOME SITES PRIMARILY OUT OF THE WOODS, PRESERVING THE WOODS AS A BUFFER TO THE NEIGHBORS AS A NATURAL AMENITY FOR OUR FAMILIES TO ENJOY.

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I AM DAVID JEANETTA SCOTT SAID, YOUR WIFE PLEASE.

TOGETHER WITH MY WIFE CHRISTINA.

WE ARE THE APPLICANT SERENA TRAIL, LLC, AND WE APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PROPOSE RP, RURAL PRESERVATION ZONING FOR SENATOR TRAIL.

EXCUSE ME.

UH, RURAL PRESERVATION PROVIDES A LIFESTYLE THAT WE BELIEVE IN 24, 2 ACRE LOTS ON 109 ACRES IS 22% DENSITY, TWO ACRE LOTS ARE SIZABLE BY MANY FOLKS.

STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, AND MANY PEOPLE, UH, ARE LOOKING FOR THAT SIZE WHEN THEY COME TO GLAND AND, AND KEEPING WITH THE AREA.

UH, WE CAN SEE AROUND ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAP, THERE ARE A LOT OF ONE, TWO, AND THREE ACRE LOTS IN THIS AREA ALONG MAIDEN'S ROAD.

AS NOTED IN THE PRESENTATION, RP ZONING ALLOWS A PROPOSAL TO CONSTRUCT A RIGHT AND A LEFT TURN LANE.

AND, UH, PLUS SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO EASE THE OLD SHARP CURVE TO THE SOUTH IN ORDER TO CREATE A NEW CURVE THAT DOES MEET CURRENT VDOT STANDARDS.

AND IN DOING SO, WE WILL ALSO IMPROVE THE DRAINAGE OUT FRONT THAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS HAVE NOTED AS A ISSUE.

UM, I WANTED TO MENTION SOMEONE ELSE, YOU KNOW, MAY COME ALONG WITH A DIFFERENT VISION.

MAYBE THEY LIKE ZONING FOR LARGER LOTS, UM, THAT INCLUDE ROADS TO HOUSES LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE WOODS AND AROUND THE POND.

THERE'D BE CLEARINGS FOR EACH OF THOSE HOUSES, THE DRAIN FIELDS, THE WELLS, THE DRIVEWAY, SO YOU WOULD HAVE HOUSES LOCATED ALL THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY.

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ANOTHER MAY COME ALONG AND COMBINE SEVERAL OF THESE LARGER PROPERTIES AND PURSUE A FAR BIGGER PROJECT WITH A HIGHER DENSITY.

UM, WE DIDN'T TRY TO DO THAT AS WE FELT STRONGLY FROM THE START THAT OUR DESIGN, UM, REPRESENTED THE RIGHT, UM, FIT FOR THIS PROPERTY, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR GLAND COUNTY.

SOMEONE ELSE MAY PURSUE, PURSUE A BUY RIGHT PROJECT THAT COULD ADD MORE DRIVEWAYS ONTO MAIDEN'S ROAD WITH NO REQUIREMENT TO BUILD TURN LANES, CORRECT THE SHARP CURVE IN THE ROAD, OR CORRECT DRAINAGE OUT FRONT, OR PROVIDE THE DRY HYDRANT FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

UM, WE BELIEVE RP ZONING IS A BETTER CHOICE FOR SO MANY REASONS.

IT'S FAR MORE EXPENSIVE TO OFFER THESE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, BUT DOING SO INCREASES THE QUALITY AND THE SAFETY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNIFICANTLY.

NEW FAMILIES MOVING TO SERENITY TRAIL WILL FIND WE HAVE PRESERVED OVER 54 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, INCLUDING MATURE HARDWOODS FOR HIKING UPON, FOR FISHING PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT.

CHRISTINA AND I HAVE HIKED THESE WOODS WITH OUR 8-YEAR-OLD SON AROUND THE POND.

UM, WE ENJOYED IT QUITE A BIT AND, UH, WE PLAN TO MOVE INTO THE SUBDIVISION SERENITY TRAIL AND BECOME A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY.

SO THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING COMMUNITY CENTER ON THIS SITE, LOCATED IN A BEAUTIFUL PICNIC SET PICNIC LIKE SETTING PERFECT FOR BIRTHDAY PARTIES AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERINGS.

IT'S REALLY QUITE BEAUTIFUL AS SHOWN ON THE PRESENTATION A MOMENT AGO BY SCOTT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO US, THIS DESIGN IS A WINNER.

THE BELLS AND WHISTLES OF THIS PROPOSAL ARE PRESERVING THE POND AND THE MATURE HARDWOODS FOR HIKING, FISHING, AND PEACEFUL ENJOYMENT.

MAYBE NOT AS FLASHY AS SOME DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE, UH, THEY DON'T NEED TO BE THEY AND THEY SHOULDN'T BE BECAUSE THE NATURAL RURAL CHARACTER OF SERENITY TRAIL ITSELF IS THE STAR OF THE SHOW.

SO, YOU KNOW, SERENITY TRAIL WITH ITS RURAL CHARACTER, THE AMENITIES GENEROUSLY PRESERVED IN A GORGEOUS NATURAL SETTING WILL ATTRACT QUALITY FAMILIES.

THESE FAMILIES WILL BE A REAL ASSET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OFFERING REAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO GLAND COUNTY.

SO AGAIN, UM, CHRISTINA AND I, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS PROPOSAL FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY WE BELIEVE IN.

AND, UM, AT THIS TIME WE'D, WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST A DEFERRAL SO THAT WE CAN BRING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ABREAST OF SOME OF THE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS WITH THE ROAD AND THE ABILITY TO WIDEN THE ROAD AND THE ABILITY TO NOT ONLY OFFER THE TURN LANES THAT WE DIDN'T BELIEVE WE COULD OFFER SAFELY BEFORE, BUT ALSO TO CORRECT THAT CURVE TO THE SOUTH.

THAT CURRENT CURVE DOES NOT MEET VDOT STANDARDS, A SHARP CURVE, DANGEROUS CURVE.

WE HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO EASE THAT CURVE TO MEET CURRENT VDOT STANDARDS AND WE REALIZE THE LATE HOUR.

AND SO WE'D LIKE TIME, UH, TO DEFER AND, AND, AND ANSWER ANY OF THE BOARD'S QUESTIONS OVER THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

AND, AND AS WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO HAVE A, ANOTHER COMMUNITY MEETING AND, AND, AND MEET WITH ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND OFFER ANY, UM, INSIGHT WE CAN AS TO WHAT WE'RE, UH, PROPOSING TO DO FOR THE PROJECT.

THAT HAVE GONE DRY IN THE AREA, UH, ESPECIALLY ALONG GREEN BRIAR AND, UH, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, UH, WHAT WOULD BE IN THE SOUTHWEST DIRECTION, EXCUSE ME, SOUTHEAST DIRECTION.

MY PLEASURE.

ALRIGHT, UH, WE'LL NOW OPEN THE, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, PORTION OF THE MEETING.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO COME OPEN THE MEETING? WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO COME FORWARD? MR. CHAIRMAN, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DR.

RAYLEY AND COUNSEL AND CLERK, THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

AND I, I MIGHT REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS IS WITHIN APPROXIMATELY 27 MILES OF A NUCLEAR POWER SITE.

SO I THINK THAT NOTIFICATION NEEDS TO BE MADE.

UM, I'M SAYING THAT IN JEST, UH, I'M SORRY I COULDN'T HELP, UH, PREVIOUS COMMENTS, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, I APPRECIATE THE, THE WORK.

I THINK THIS IS AN OUTSTANDING DEVELOPMENT AND THE MODIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE ROAD IN PARTICULAR, UH, I THINK ARE A LOT OF OUR CONCERNS.

THERE'S STILL TWO CONCERNS THOUGH, HOWEVER, ONE THAT DEALS WITH STILL SAFETY AND WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 15.2, 1200 OR 15.2 2200 OR 15.2 20, UH, 2 83, WHICH ALL TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND EITHER THE SECURE AND PROMOTING OF, OR IN THE ENHANCEMENT OF A PUBLIC SAFETY.

WE STILL HAVE ONE ITEM THAT'S NOT REALLY IN CONTROL OF THE LANDOWNERS, AND THAT IS THE MAIDENS FAIRGROUND INTERSECTION.

LAST NIGHT WE SAW WHERE IT'S TWO BD TWO BD ON THE ROUNDABOUT THERE.

AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT WAS PRESENTED AT THE MEETING LAST NIGHT.

SO I'LL SUGGEST THAT THAT NEEDS TO COME TO FRUITION PERHAPS, OR AT LEAST LOOK AT, BECAUSE AS WE KNOW, THE FAIRGROUND MAIDENS ROAD IS TIED FOR NUMBER ONE IN TERMS OF ACCENT RATES ACROSS THE COUNTY.

THE SECOND THING THAT IS NOT IN THE PURVIEW, I'LL SUGGEST OF THE, UH, LANDOWNERS, THE DEVELOPERS, IS THE CONCEPT OF HY HYDROLOGICAL STUDY.

IT'S NOT JUST SHALLOW WELLS

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THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, DEEPER WELLS AND PONDS THAT HAVE GONE DRY.

SO I WOULD SUGGEST, I, I WOULD ASK THAT THE COUNTY CONSIDERED COMPLETING HYDROLOGICAL STUDY BECAUSE THIS IS NOT GONNA JUST AFFECT THIS DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT POTENTIALLY ARE GONNA BE COMING FORTH.

AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT JUST AS SOMETHING TO HAVE OUT FOR HOMEOWNERS TO REALIZE AND DEVELOPERS THERE ARE, THERE ARE LIMITATIONS TO WHAT THE AQUIFER CAN SUPPLY WITHIN OUR COUNTY AND OUTSIDE OF OUR WATER SYSTEM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH APPRECIATE.

, GOOD EVENING.

I'M BARBARA SLOAN, DISTRICT THREE MAIDENS ROAD.

AND I'M ORIGINALLY FROM CALIFORNIA AND I DO NOT INTEND TO INSULT YOU TONIGHT.

I DO NOT THINK THAT YOU ARE DOING ANYTHING, BUT TAKING EVERY BIT OF EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID TONIGHT.

SERIOUSLY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, I AM AGAINST THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE I LIVE ON MAIDENS ROAD AND THE EXPLOSION OF, OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OCCURRING IS ALARMING TO SAY THE LEAST.

UH, THE, WE ALL KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD ME, I'VE BEEN UP YAPPING AT YOU GUYS.

I DUNNO HOW LONG ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.

BUT MAIDS IN FAIRGROUND IS A REAL PROBLEM.

AND THE FACT THAT THE ROUNDABOUT IS, IS TO BE DETERMINED IS A REAL PROBLEM.

AND MAIDEN'S ROAD ON A GREAT DAY IS A VERY DANGEROUS ROAD.

AND WE, I MEAN, WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE FLYING DOWN THAT ROAD AT 55 MILES AN HOUR ON A REGULAR BASIS, I'M, I LIVE THERE, I SEE IT, IT'S TERRIFYING.

AND IT IS TRUE.

TWO PICKUP TRUCKS ON MAINS ROAD CAN'T PASS WITHOUT ONE GOING HALFWAY IN A DITCH.

UM, SO THE THOUGHT OF CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC AND 48 TO GOD KNOWS HOW MANY CARS FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT MOVE INTO THIS AREA, IT'S, IT'S UNTENABLE.

UM, PLUS WE'RE WATCHING WHAT'S GOING IN ON FAIRGROUND ROAD AND FAIRGROUND ROAD IS GONNA BE, IS ALREADY A PROBLEM.

IT'S GONNA BE MUCH WORSE.

SO I, I JUST, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE'RE NOT READY FOR IT.

UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRU INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE ROUNDABOUT.

AND THOSE OF US THAT LIVE HERE, WE'VE BEEN HERE 33 YEARS AND WATCHED IT JUST EXPLODE AROUND US AND IT'S TIME TO TAKE A BREATH AND, UH, GET THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER SITUATED SO THAT WE CAN HANDLE THIS.

AND I TOO, ALONG WITH THE ABSOLUTE GENIUS THAT JUST SPOKE, I I WOULD HOPE THAT THERE'D BE A , UH, HYDROLOGICAL STUDY AS WELL.

WE WE'RE REAL CONCERNED ABOUT THE WATER.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MS. LOW, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TONIGHT.

MY NAME'S ROBERT DAVIS.

I HAVE LITH GUT FARM.

WE BORDER MAIDENS ROAD IN TWO 50.

WE AM 78 ACRES THERE.

AND THROUGH THE YEARS WE'VE BEEN LIVING THERE ABOUT 35 YEARS, WE'VE ENDED UP PUTTING THREE WELLS IN DEEP WELLS IS NOT THE FIX TO EVERYTHING.

WHEN YOU'VE GOT 24 HOMES AND YOU'VE GOT 24 WELLS COMING OUT, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT TAKE A CHANCE OF THE WELL GOING DRY.

WE'VE HAD TO ADD, LIKE I SAID, WE HAD ONE, THEN WE PUT TWO, THEN WE, NOW WE'VE GOT THREE.

AND WHEN IT'S A DROUGHT, ONE OF OUR WELLS STILL GOES DRY.

AND THE TRAFFIC THAT'S ON MAIDEN'S ROAD, THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN.

NOW THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WIDENING THE ROAD, MAIDENS ROAD'S ABOUT SIX MILES, FIVE OR SIX MILES LONG.

AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT ONE AREA THAT'S BAD.

ALL THE MAIDENS ROAD IS BAD.

BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME GIVE MY 2 CENTS AND GOOD LUCK TO YOU.

HOW Y'ALL DOING? MY NAME'S CHRIS JONES.

I LIVE ON MAIDEN'S ROAD, BEEN IN THE COUNTY FOR OVER PROBABLY 35 PLUS YEARS NOW.

UM, I SPOKE LAST TIME AND I CONGRATULATE Y'ALL FROM ADDRESSING SOME OF THE TURN LANES.

I THINK WE PUT PROFFERS IN.

WHY DO WE GIVE VARIANCES? YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO NEED TO PUT A RULE IN IF WE DON'T HAVE THE RULES.

SO I CONGRATULATE YOU ON THAT.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE ROAD SYSTEM LEADING TO THIS FARM.

DMV VDOT, HOWEVER YOU WANNA CALL 'EM, DID THEIR STUDY FROM POORHOUSE TO MA AT MAIDEN'S INTERSECTION.

WE ALL KNOW THAT'S NOT WHERE THE TRAFFIC'S COMING.

WE KNOW THAT THE, PROBABLY THE, THE MAIDEN'S ROAD FAIRGROUNDS INTERSECTION HAS PROBABLY BEEN THE MOST SURVEYED PIECE OF PROPERTY IN THE COUNTY OTHER THAN THIS NUCLEAR REACTOR

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PIECE OF PROPERTY.

UM, I CHOSE TO BUY MY PROPERTY AND LIVED THERE BECAUSE I, LIVING HERE DID NOT COME FROM OTHER PLACES.

I DID THE RESEARCH AND I WANTED TO STAY RURAL AND FARMS AROUND ME.

I DID NOT WANT ALL THE DEVELOPMENT.

THAT IS WHY WE WE BOUGHT ON MAIDEN'S ROAD.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE, SINCE THEY HAVE GIVEN THEIR LAST PRESENTATION, I'VE BEEN OUT WITH POWER FOR THREE TIMES, RUNNING ON GENERATOR FOR MORE THAN 12 HOURS.

SO IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE POWER GRID READY TO HANDLE 24 MORE HOUSES? THE OTHER CONCERN THAT'S JUST POPPING UP NOW IS AS THIS COX PROPERTY STARTS DEVELOPING AND THAT'S GONNA START COMING IN, THINK OF ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND STUFF THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO COME WITH THE COX PROPERTY BECAUSE THE CUT THROUGH FROM MAIDEN'S, COX POORHOUSE IS GOING TO GET GRIDLOCKED.

OKAY? UM, I KNOW THERE IS A BALANCE IN OUR COMMERCIAL TO OUR RESIDENTIAL.

LET'S SEE WHERE WE ARE.

I THINK OUR COMMERCIAL IS WAY HIGHER.

OUR, OUR COMMERCIAL NEEDS TO COME UP BEFORE WE KEEP LETTING ALL THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL COME IN, RIGHT? SO LET'S WORK.

SHOULD WE WORK AT GETTING OUR COMMERCIAL UP BEFORE WE PUT ALL THESE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES IN? LET'S PLEASE CONSIDER THAT I AM A 37 FOOT DEEP.

WELL, IT HAS SURVIVED SEVERAL DROUGHTS, BUT I AM CONCERNED WHEN 24 MORE WELLS GET DRILLED AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DRILLING MORE WELLS FOR THE COX PROPERTY AS THAT DEVELOPS OUT OVER THERE.

THERE IS A MAJOR CONCERN ON US FOR THAT.

SO PLEASE DEVELOP THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BALANCE THE COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AND REALLY CONSIDER THAT AS WE START APPRO ALL THESE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.

I'M NOT TOTALLY AGAINST IT, BUT I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT FOR IT.

I LIVE AT 2 2 0 9 CRAIG RUN COURT OFF OF MAIDENS ROAD.

I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 28 YEARS AND HAVE CERTAINLY EXPERIENCED A LOT OF GROWTH.

I THINK THE PROPERTY OF SERENITY FARM IS MAGNIFICENT.

I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT AND CERTAINLY LENDS ITSELF TO THE SORT OF A PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.

IT CONCERNS ME TREMENDOUSLY THAT THE EXISTING TRAFFIC ON MAIDENS ROAD CANNOT SUSTAIN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AND ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE AREA IN MAIDENS ROAD WHERE THIS IS LOCATED, EVEN WITH THE STRAIGHTENING THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING, YOU STILL HAVE EXISTING VERY DICEY CURVES LEADING TO AND AWAY FROM THIS PROPERTY.

UM, I DID FEEL AS THOUGH THERE WAS SOME QUESTION THAT THE RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANES WERE BEING PROPOSED AND THEN THERE WAS A, UH, REMOVAL OF THE LEFT TURN.

I WOULD PLEASE SUGGEST TO YOU THAT BOTH OF THEM WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE IMPERATIVE AND I'D LOVE TO THINK THAT PERHAPS FEWER THAN 24 HOMES, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A FINITE AQUIFER AND THERE'S A WHOLE LOT MORE COMING.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

HI.

MY NEIGHBOR HAD TO LEAVE, SO I'M WONDERING IF I CAN, UM, TAKE SOME OF HER TIME AND EXPRESS HER THOUGHTS AS WELL AS MY OWN.

WANNA THANK THE OWNERS FOR ADDRESSING THE TRAFFIC SITUATION.

UM, WELL FIRST OF ALL, I ALSO WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU.

I THOUGHT SOME OF THE NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN.

OH, CAROLYN ELLIOT, 2 5 1 2 POPLAR FOREST LANE, MAIDENS, VIRGINIA, THANK YOU.

AND MY NEIGHBOR ELLEN AT 2,500 JUNIPER LANE.

AND, UM, I DO WANNA THANK YOU.

I THOUGHT SOME OF THE COMMENTS MADE EARLIER, UH, QUESTIONING YOUR INTEGRITY WERE VERY OUT OF NOT APPROPRIATE.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE SERVICE THAT YOU PROVIDE AND THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

EVEN THOUGH SOME OF US DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH IT, IT'S APPRECIATED.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, MY NEIGHBOR ELLEN WANTED TO COMMENT THAT THERE ARE, UH, THREE SUBDIVISIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PROCESS, BREEZE HILL, FAIRGROUNDS ROAD, AND POORHOUSE ALREADY CREATING AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC, UH, WHICH NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED.

YOU KNOW, JUST EVERYTHING NEEDS TO SLOW DOWN, YOU KNOW, ONE AT A TIME.

IT'S GOING TOO FAST.

UM, SHE IS ALSO ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT THE, UM, PRESERVATION AREA IN THIS DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BE IN THE HANDS OF A CONSERVATION TRUST AND NOT IN THE HANDS OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

SO I'M MAKING THOSE COMMENTS FOR HER.

UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THERE ARE THREE.

AM I DONE? NO.

UM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THERE HAVE BEEN THREE CONCERNS, WATER TRAFFIC AND THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

AND I

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MUCH APPRECIATED.

UM, THE WATER STUDY, DESPITE REPEATED REQUESTS, WE'RE ASKING FOR A HYDROLOGICAL STUDY AND, AND ASKING ALSO THAT YOU ALL REQUIRE THAT FOR EVERY DEVELOPMENT THAT COMES IN FROM NOW ON JUST TO SET EVERYONE'S MINDS AT EASE, A REAL STUDY BEING DONE.

AND FINALLY THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED.

SO THOSE ARE THE CONCERNS.

UM, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF POSTPONING THIS, ALLOWING THEM BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB SO FAR OF ADDRESSING THE CONCERNS AND POSTPONING IT TO ANOTHER DATE.

AND I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION.

ARE THE POWERPOINT THAT HAVE BEEN SHOWN THIS EVENING AVAILABLE TO US ANYWHERE ON WEBSITES FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT? UH, THEY'RE PUBLIC AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE WITH YOU.

HAPPY TO DO THAT.

SO WE'LL SEND THAT TO YOU.

WHERE WOULD WE LOOK FOR THEM? UH, LET'S CONTACT AFTER THIS AND I'LL BE ABLE TO GET YOUR EMAIL AND WE CAN SEND IT TO YOU.

WONDERFUL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

GOOD EVENING, ALL OF YOU.

MY NAME IS MARSH LINDEMAN DAVIS.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF, UM, GLAND COUNTY SINCE 1961 AND I LIVE IN THE CORNER OF BROAD STREET, PONY FARM ROAD AND MAIDEN'S ROAD.

AND I APPRECIATE, UM, YOU ALLOWING US TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.

UM, MY BIGGEST CONCERNS, OF COURSE ARE THE WATER.

THE WELLS ARE WELLS.

UM, WE DON'T HAVE ONE ANY, UM, UH, UH, SMALLER THAN 251 FEET DEEP.

UH, THE LARGEST IS 352 FEET DEEP AND SOME OF OURS WELLS, UM, HAVE GONE DRY.

SO THAT'S A CONCERN.

WE LIVE AROUND THE CORNER FROM SERENITY.

UM, BUT THE TRAFFIC IS REALLY WHERE IT'S OUT ON MAIDEN'S ROAD.

DEVELOPMENTS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT WHERE THEY HAPPEN IS REALLY WHAT'S IMPORTANT.

WHAT ROADS ARE THEY ON? ARE THESE ROADS ACTUALLY SAFE AND MAINS ROAD? THEY TALK ABOUT THAT TO FAIRGROUNDS ROAD, BUT MAIDEN'S ROAD TO PONY FARM ROAD TO TWO 50, THERE ARE SOME VERY SHARP, VERY DANGEROUS CURVES.

I DRIVE HORSE TRAILERS AND RIDE HORSES AND THEY'RE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.

SO IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN THAT ROAD LATELY, I SUGGEST YOU DO BECAUSE WITH THE 24 HOMES THEY'RE SUGGESTING, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THAT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED CARS A DAY EXTRA ON THAT ROAD.

AND BELIEVE ME, SAFETY IS THE BIGGEST CONCERN FOR ANY OF US OUT HERE IN GLAND.

SO I WOULD PLEASE ASK YOU TO AT LEAST DRIVE THAT ROAD.

IT'S NOT SO MUCH, UH, IT'S REALLY THE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S OUR SAFETY THAT I AM ASKING FOR YOUR CONCERN WITH, PLEASE.

ANYONE ELSE? YES, GOOD EVENING.

I'M ELIZABETH STUTZ AND I LIVE AT 25 61 MAIDENS ROAD AND TOGETHER WITH THE DAVISES, WE'RE THE TWO FARMS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THIS PARCEL.

HAD AN EVENT WHERE THERE WAS A WRECK.

WE ALSO HAVE THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT THE WELLS.

SO JUST, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S INVOLVED IN GETTING A HYDROLOGY STUDY, BUT THAT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A VERY GOOD SUGGESTION.

COULD REALLY EASE A LOT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.

UM, BUT MY MAJOR CONCERN IS NOT AND THEY REALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

UM, I DON'T THINK, BUT IT'S THE ROAD.

AND I WILL TELL YOU AS BAD AS FAIRGROUNDS ROAD AND, UM, AND ROAD, AN INTERSECTION THAT THAT IS, IT'S EVEN WORSE WHEN YOU GO TO BROAD STREET AND WHEN YOU COME AROUND THE CORNER, UM, YOU GO PAST AIR FARM AND THEN THERE'S ONE NEXT TO IT AND COME AROUND THE CORNER.

I DRIVE A HORSE TRAILER WITH A A TRUCK ALL THE TIME.

YOU CANNOT, I MEAN, I HA I HAVE TO GET THE TRAILER IN THE DITCH.

IT IS DANGEROUS IN THE WAY.

IT'S KIND OF A BLIND CURVE.

AND THE OTHER PROBLEM IS ON TWO 50, IF YOU'RE COMING, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE COMING EAST ON TWO 50 AND TAKING A LEFT TO GO REALLY ON, UM, IT WOULD BE PONY FARM AND THEN IT TURNS INTO MAIDEN'S ROAD.

BUT RIGHT WHERE YOU TURN, THERE WAS, YOU COME UP, THERE'S A CAR CAN BE COMING THE OTHER DIRECTION AND YOU CAN'T SEE IT.

I MEAN, I TELL ALL MY FRIENDS, ANYTIME I HAVE PEOPLE OVER FOR DINNER, COUNT TO FIVE BEFORE YOU TURN LEFT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO.

I EVEN CALLED VDOT ABOUT THIS 10 YEARS AGO AND SAID, IT'S RIDICULOUS.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GET HIT ALL THE TIME.

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UM, I HAD A BORDER WHO HAD A WRECK THERE.

UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S REALLY, IT'S THE ROAD.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING COULD BE DONE ABOUT THE ROAD, I THINK A LOT OF US WOULD FEEL A LOT BETTER BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S REALLY A SAFETY CONCERN.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE WERE COMMENTS ALSO ABOUT THE, UM, NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS ON THE ROAD, BUT THEY REALLY ARE A LOT OF ACCIDENTS THAT ARE NOT REPORTED.

AS I SAID, I BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL ACCIDENTS GO THROUGH OUR FENCING.

I MEAN, I THINK MAYBE THREE OR FOUR THAT I CAN THINK OF.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, OVER 25 YEARS OR 30 YEARS OR SO.

BUT STILL, OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS TIME.

UM, MY NAME IS GAIL VILLE.

UM, MY ADDRESS IS 2 4 5 3 BADEN ROAD AND I AM THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

I, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT THIS COMMUNITY IS SO SPECIAL AND I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, IT'S ALWAYS EASY TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE LIVE HERE.

AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT IN MY 11 YEARS AT THE FARM THAT I TOO DIDN'T LIKE MAIDEN'S ROAD.

I DIDN'T LIKE GOING OUT TO PONY FARM ROAD AND GOING ON TO TWO 50 AND I NEVER WENT OUT TO FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.

SO THIS PROJECT IS NOT LOCKED INTO GOING RIGHT OR LEFT EXACTLY LIKE THAT.

I DO WANNA POINT OUT THAT PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON MAIDEN'S ROAD USE HAWK TOWN ROAD AND USE CAMELBACK.

SO THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT ARE WORKING THAT WE HAVE CITIZENS HAVE DONE TO MAKE IT VIABLE.

AND I DON'T THINK DAVID AND HIS WIFE AND THEIR 8-YEAR-OLD CHILD WANT TO CREATE HARM FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT HE'S GOING TO DO SOME WORK FOR VDOT, THAT WE ARE REALLY GOING TO GET AT LEAST PART OF THAT SAFER.

SO, UM, AND I ALSO THINK IT'S, IT'S NICE THAT I'VE HAD THE LUXURY OF LIVING THERE AND THE PEOPLE BEFORE ME HAD THE LUXURY OF LIVING THERE.

AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN GOOD, GOOD NEIGHBORS AND GOOD CITIZENS.

BUT I THINK THE IDEA THAT HAVING 23 MORE FAMILIES MOVE IN THERE AND ENJOY THE BEAUTY THAT IS A RURAL PRESERVATION AND TO PUT IT INTO CONSERVATION IS JUST, I THINK AN OVER COMMITMENT.

UH, WHEN IN FACT RURAL PRESERVATION DOES THE EXACT SAME THING, UM, THROUGH INTEGRITY THROUGH DOING THE RIGHT THING.

SO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SAY WHAT I NEEDED TO SAY.

REALLY, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

2.6 MILLION THAT'LL PRESERVE THIS PROPERTY AND KEEP IT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.

ANYONE ELSE? YES SIR.

MY NAME IS PATRICK DOLAN.

I LIVE AT 2 1 1 4 HAWK DOWN ROAD.

UM, WE HAVE 25 ACRES THAT ESSENTIALLY BACKS UP TO SERENITY.

UM, I MOVED MY FAMILY FROM THE CITY OF RICHMOND TO GLAND THREE YEARS AGO.

UM, TO GET AWAY FROM PROPERTIES SUCH AS THIS ONE, SUCH AS WHAT'S GONNA GO UP ON FAIRGROUNDS.

UM, WE WANTED THE GLIN LIFE OF GETTING AWAY FROM THIS.

UM, THE ELECTED LEADERSHIP THAT I'VE SEEN OVER THE PAST YEAR HAS ME ALMOST MISSING THE ELECTED LEADERSHIP OF THE CITY OF RICHMOND, WHICH IS TRULY SAYING SOMETHING.

UM, I WON'T LET MY WIFE DRIVE OUR KIDS ON MAIDEN'S ROAD AS IT IS RIGHT NOW.

UM, THE WATER ISSUE, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WELLS, BUT IS A HUNDRED FEET THE MAGIC NUMBER? IS IT ONE 20? IS IT 200? IS IT 300? I THINK A STUDY NEEDS TO BE DETERMINED ON THAT BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.

I THINK THIS BEEN PUT TOGETHER PRETTY HASTILY AND THE RESIDENTS BEHIND ME I THINK FEEL THE SAME THING.

SO I WOULD JUST, I WOULD ASK, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN PROPERTY ON HAWK TOWN SELL FOR 1.1 MILLION ON FOUR ACRES.

MY NEIGHBOR'S SELLING HIS PROPERTY FOR 1.7 ON 25.

I THINK THAT GAIL CAN FIND A BUYER FOR

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ANYONE ELSE? SEEING NONE, I'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.

UM, ANY DISCUSSION ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD WITH THE, I I HAVE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE WE, WELL, DO YOU WANNA ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WANNA ADDRESS ANYTHING? WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS ANY OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP? THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

UM, ADDRESSING THE, THE WATER ISSUE.

THE, THE PROFFER IS TO BEDROCK.

SO A HUNDRED FEET IS, IS AN ARBITRARY NUMBER THAT WE BELIEVE WILL GET YOU TO BEDROCK BECAUSE GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE THINK THE CLAY, UH, IS, IS ABOUT 60 TO 70 FEET ON AVERAGE IN THAT AREA.

SO WE'RE SAYING A HUNDRED FEET, BUT WE'RE ALSO PROFFERING TO BEDROCK.

AND AS, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, BEDROCK GENERALLY OFFERS MUCH MORE EXPANSIVE AQUIFERS THAT COULD BE RUNNING VAST DISTANCES ACROSS, UH, STATES AND, AND EVEN MULTI-STATE AREAS IN SOME CASES.

SO I, UM, AS A BUILDER FOR 35 YEARS, UM, I PERSONALLY HAVEN'T SEEN A DEEP WELL GO DRY, BUT, BUT I, I'M NOT QUESTIONING IF THERE'S, IF THAT HAPPENED, I, I GUESS I HAVEN'T HEARD OF THAT 'CAUSE WE DRILL IN INTO BEDROCK.

SO ANYWAY, UM, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.

I I WANTED TO MENTION REGARDING THE TRAFFIC.

UM, WE ARE PROFFERING SOME FAIRLY EXTRAORDINARY IMPROVEMENTS FOR, FOR, FOR 24 LOTS.

IT'S, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF IMPROVEMENTS SO TO, TO MAKE OUR AREA SAFE.

AND I WOULD MENTION THAT I'VE ALWAYS HEARD THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE LIKELY DEVELOPMENT DRIVEN.

I DON'T KNOW THAT GOOCHLAND COUNTY HAS THE MONEY RIGHT NOW TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, UH, HAPPY WITH, WITH WIDENING AND IMPROVING MAIDEN'S ROAD.

BUT IF WE DO IT, I ASSUME THE NEXT GUY THAT COMES UP, YOU MAY ASK HIM TO DO IT.

AND AT SOME POINT YOU'VE ALSO CREATED SOME QUALITY DEMAND WITH A FEW WELL THOUGHT DIVISIONS, NEW HOUSES, THOSE PEOPLE CREATE THE DEMAND THAT WILL BRING THE IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, I DON'T THINK VDOT IS JUST GONNA RAISE THEIR HAND AND SAY, LET'S RUN OUT THERE AND, AND IMPROVE THAT.

RIGHT NOW, JUST IN MY PERSONAL OPINION, I THINK IF WE DO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO, VDOT WILL BE OUT THERE, THEY'LL SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS AND IT'LL BE ON THEIR RADAR AND THE NEXT GUY WILL COME ALONG DOWN THE STREET AND AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS WILL GET THE TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENTS AND ROAD IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE NEIGHBORS REALIZE YET.

I JUST RECENTLY FOUND OUT THAT THE, THE ONE OF THE FUTURE THOROUGHFARE CALLS FOR 70 FOOT WIDE ON MAIDEN'S ROAD.

THAT'S WHAT ALLOWED US TO CHANGE THIS PLAN.

WE COULD NOT DO THE TURN LANE PRIOR TO FINDING OUT THAT WE COULD GO WIDER THAN WE REALIZED.

SO NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT WE DROPPED BACK AND WE ADDED THE LEFT TURN LANE BECAUSE WE FOUND OUT WE COULD, UH, INSTALL IT IN A SAFE MANNER, THAT ALSO EASES THE SHARP CURVE.

AND I'M HEARING A LOT OF TALK ABOUT SHARP CURVES.

SO I I FEEL LIKE WE WILL, WE HAVE A DANGEROUS CURVE THAT WE'RE, UH, PROPOSING TO CORRECT AND I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SETTING A NICE PRECEDENT FOR, FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS TO DO THE SAME.

AND I ASSUME YOU WOULD PROBABLY POINT AT US AND SAY, LOOK WHAT THESE GUYS ARE DOING WITH ON THE ONLY 24 LOTS IS, IS FAIRLY EXTRAORDINARY IN MY EXPERIENCE.

IT'S, IT'S SIGNIFICANT AT LEAST.

UM, I, I I GUESS THOSE WOULD BE, UH, THE MAIN THINGS I'D WANT TO, UM, ADDRESS FROM, FROM THE COMMENTS.

AND I'M A BIG BELIEVER IN RP ZONING MYSELF.

UM, I I'VE BUILT IN QUITE A FEW RP UH, UH, DIVISIONS IN, IN MY CAREER.

AND, AND I'M A BIG FAN OF, OF RP.

I BELIEVE IT PRESERVES THE LAND ADEQUATELY IN MY OPINION.

I, I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND, OR I'M NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH WITH CONSERVATION EASEMENTS TO SEE WHY WE WOULD NEED ONE.

IN, IN, IN OTHER WORDS, IS RP NOT GONNA BE PRESERVING ADEQUATELY? I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT.

SO WE BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PRODUCT.

AND SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY ADDRESS IN THE COMMENT OF THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT.

SO DOES THAT COVER IT, SCOTT, QUESTION? OKAY.

YES SIR.

IS THERE NO, I CAN ASK HIM A QUESTION.

NO.

OH, I DID WANNA MENTION THAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THIS SLIDE TO ANYONE THAT, THAT ASKS.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MEET PERSONALLY WITH ANYBODY WHO WANTS AS WELL AS HOLD A, A COMMUNITY MEETING AND EVERYBODY CAN COME AND, AND WE CAN REALLY TALK THROUGH, UM, THE DETAILS AS, AS MUCH AS ANYBODY WANTS TO.

SO THANK YOU MR. JEAN.

ANYTHING FURTHER? SORRY, ANYTHING FURTHER?

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BOARD, WE'VE, UH, HEARD THIS, UH, MR. SPOON HOUR.

BEFORE ANYTHING I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION OF STAFF MR. CASH.

WHAT, WHAT ARE THE, HOW MANY SPLITS ARE AVAILABLE BY RIGHT TODAY? SO A QUICK TAKING A QUICK LOOK AT THAT.

WE WOULD ESTIMATE A, UH, POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL SPLITS OF THREE.

THREE.

AND IT'S BASED UPON THE LOT CONFIGURATION OF WHAT'S BEEN TAKEN SO FAR.

I GUESS I'LL GO WITH THE MONIKER, MR. TURN LANES.

THANK YOU MR. KH.

MM-HMM .

ANY OTHER QUESTION? SO, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

I, I'M, I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE LATITUDE HERE.

UM, THIS IS A UNIQUE ONE BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ASKED FOR A DEFERRAL.

UM, ACTUALLY WE'VE BEEN ASKED FOR OUR SECOND DEFERRAL AND I WANTED TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS BEFORE ANY MOTION WAS MADE, UM, TO SEE IF, SINCE WE DON'T GET TOGETHER AND TALK ABOUT THE CASES AHEAD OF TIME, TO KIND OF GET GAUGE WHERE THE BOARD IS TO SEE IF A DEFERRAL WOULD, IF WAITING TWO MONTHS WOULD BE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME THAN WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT.

UM, I NEVER, UM, TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC AS A REASON TO DENY SOMETHING.

I JUST, I'VE LIVED IN A LOT OF PLACES WHERE THERE'S A LOT MORE TRAFFIC.

UM, THIS IS AN EXCEPTION.

I DRIVE THIS ROAD A LOT.

I BEEN IN THE DITCH A LOT.

UM, TWO, UH, TWO FOURTH OF JULYS AGO WHEN I GOT, WHEN WE PULLED OUT OF STATION FIVE AND WAS TOLD THAT I HAD TO GO, UH, NORTH ON, UH, FAIRGROUNDS AND I CUT ACROSS MAIDENS, UM, THE NEXT YEAR I DIDN'T BECAUSE I'M NOT DRIVING OUT AT NIGHT WITH MY FAMILY AND I'M A DAMN GOOD DRIVER.

UM, SO I, I DON'T GET SPUN UP ABOUT TRAFFIC LIKE MOST FOLKS DO.

UM, I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT GUCCI COUNTY, UH, WE LOOK FOR DEVELOPMENT TO IMPROVE OUR ROADWAYS AS IS EV EVIDENCED ON FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.

THE THREE SAFEST SPOTS ON FAIRGROUNDS ROAD WILL BE EXACTLY WHERE WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT.

UM, THE WELL STUFF.

I, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I I'M NOT AS SMART AS MR. SLOAN.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING 150 HOUSES AROUND US, I WAS FREAKED OUT 'CAUSE I ONLY HAVE A FOUR GALLON RETURN ON MY WELL.

UM, BUT EVEN THOSE HOUSES WENT UP AND I STILL HAVE IT.

BUT, SO, BUT MY, MY, UM, MY CONVERSATION FOR US TO, TO DISCUSS BOARD IS I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT TO OUR CITIZENS.

I KNOW I HAVE.

SO FOR SIX YEARS NOW, I HAVE BEEN, I HAVE BEEN SAYING THAT I'VE BEEN APPROVING, UM, I HAVE BEEN APPROVING SUBDIVISIONS WITH EVERY SEAT FILLED AND VOTING AGAINST EVERYTHING EVERYONE HAS WANTED IN THIS ROOM.

IT'S NOT A GREAT FEELING.

I DON'T REALLY RECOMMEND IT.

UH, BUT YOU DO GET, YOU DO GROW PERSONALLY.

UH, BUT THE REASON I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS IN THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREAS.

WHEN I VOTE FOR THOSE CASES, I EXPLAIN, I'M DOING THIS BECAUSE THIS IS THE DES THIS IS THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE DEFINED THAT THIS IS WHERE WE WANT TO SEE OUR GROWTH, WHERE WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WHERE WE HAVE INVESTED THAT MONEY FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, THIS IS NOT IN THAT AREA.

WE JUST COMPLETED THE SMALL AREA PLAN, WHICH REDEFINED, WE'VE PUSHED THE BOUNDARIES OUT AND, YOU KNOW, FAIRGROUNDS ROAD WE SAW, AND YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, THAT WAS A, THAT CASE TOOK WHAT, 18 MONTHS AND WE, WE GOT THERE.

I CAN'T, I CAN'T IN GOOD CONSCIENCE SAY I'M GONNA PUT THE GROWTH IN THE DESIGNATED GROWTH AREA AND THEN VOTE FOR SOMETHING THAT GOES FROM FIVE LOTS TO 24 LOTS.

I CAN'T DO THAT.

I CAN'T LOOK AT MYSELF IN THE MIRROR.

AND I SAID I'D NEVER, I WOULD ALWAYS DO WHAT I FELT IS RIGHT AND WHAT I COMMITTED TO DOING.

SO, UM, IS WOULD THIS BE AN, A GREAT SUBDIVISION SOMEPLACE ELSE IN THE GROWTH AREA? ABSOLUTELY.

UH, AND, AND SPEAKING OF THE RURAL PRESERVATION, I'M A BIG FAN, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS RURAL PRESERVATION IS BEING USED CORRECTLY.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT IT'S, IT'S INTENDED TO DO, IT'S TO PROTECT THE VIEW SHEDS.

THIS RURAL PRESERVATION IS PUT ALL THE WAY IN THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY.

NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A NATURAL BERM, SO YOU PROBABLY WOULD ONLY SEE SOME ROOFTOPS, BUT I DON'T, WHEN I, WHEN I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT PROJECTS THAT HAD THE RURAL PRESERVATION, IT WAS PROTECTING THE ROADWAYS AND, AND THE, THE RESIDENTS FROM SEEING IT AND FOCUSING THE DENSITY IN A SMALLER AREA AND IT HAVING THE RULE AROUND IT NOT ALL UP FRONT AND IN THE BACK.

SO IT'S JUST, JUST DOESN'T ALIGN WITH MY VISION OF RURAL PRESERVATION.

SO I'M, I I'M SAYING ALL THIS BEFORE WE HAVE A MOTION TO KIND OF LET FOLKS KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT.

UM, I GUESS I'LL PAUSE TO SEE IF THERE IS A MOTION TO DEFER.

IF NOT, I WILL MAKE AN, A SUBSEQUENT MOTION IF WE DON'T GET A MOTION TO DEFER.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

THANK YOU MR. SPOON.

NOW, WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS? UM, I, I DO GET SPUN UP ABOUT TRAFFIC.

I MEAN, UM,

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UM, AND, AND PREVIOUS TO TONIGHT, I EXPRESSED MY THOUGHTS THAT IF TURN LANES WERE WAIVED, I WAS NOT GONNA FIND MYSELF AT ALL IN FAVOR OF THIS.

BUT TURN LANES AREN'T THE ONLY THING THAT INVOLVES ROAD TRAFFIC.

AND I KEEP THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RIGHT HERE WITHIN REACHING DISTANCE.

AND IT SAYS RIGHT THERE, REMEMBER NUMBER FOUR, ENSURE NEW DEVELOPMENT DOES NOT EXCEED THE COUNTY'S ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE NEEDED SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND THAT'S ROADS.

UM, I THINK IT'S, UH, NOT TOO FAR DISTANT THAT I DID NOT VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE HIGH FIELD DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE OF ROCKVILLE ROAD.

AND MY COMMENT WAS, IT'S NOT THAT I'M AGAINST HIGH FIELD FOREVER, I WAS AGAINST HIGH FIELD THAT DAY.

AND I, I HATE TO SAY THAT THE ACCIDENT THAT OCCURRED AT ASHLAND ROAD IN ROCKVILLE, NOT EVEN A MONTH LATER PROBABLY PROVED ME RIGHT AS TO WE PUT AN APPROVAL IN PLACE BEFORE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS THERE TO SUPPORT IT.

SO I DO NOT TRAVEL MAIDEN'S ROAD AS FREQUENTLY AS SOME OF YOU ALL, BUT I TOO HAVE BEEN ON THERE AND SAID, WHOA, THAT'S A DITCH.

AND I'M GETTING REAL CLOSE TO IT.

SO, SO I'M, I'M COMING DOWN ON NUMBER FOUR IS THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ISN'T QUITE THERE.

AND I THINK THE NUMBER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IS 10 TRIPS PER DAY PER HOUSE.

THAT'S 240 ADDITIONAL TRIPS THAT WOULD BE PUT ON THAT ROAD.

I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH ROSE HILL, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS IN THE WINGS OR ACTUALLY ON CENTER STAGE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO AT SOME POINT YOU DON'T GET 30 POUNDS INTO A 25 POUND SACK.

AND, UH, EVEN WITH MR. SPOONER'S EFFORTS WITH CVA TEAM, CVTA MONEY COMING IN, I, I DON'T HAVE A NUMBER FOR WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO IMPROVE MAIDEN'S ROAD.

I I KNOW DISCUSSION IS ACTIVELY UNDERWAY TO IMPROVE ROCKVILLE ROAD, BUT I, I'M, I'M STICKING WITH NUMBER FOUR THAT WE DO NOT EXCEED, UH, OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE THE NEEDED SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO TIMING IS EVERYTHING.

HEY IS ODD SET AT 325 BC AND UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M SITTING RIGHT NOW.

I, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD VOTE TO DENY, BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY VOTE TO DEFER FOR A COUPLE YEARS.

AND, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY THINKING AT THIS POINT.

MR. CHRISTIE.

UH, WELL FIRST I'D LIKE TO MAKE IT PUBLICLY KNOWN.

THIS CURRENT BOARD DID NOT APPROVE THE CURRENT RESIDE OR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD GOING IN ON FAIRGROUNDS ROAD.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF CONJECTURE THAT EVERYBODY THINKS THAT WE DID, BUT WE DID NOT.

UM, THE WATER ISSUES, MY BIGGEST ISSUE, WE HAD A COUPLE, UH, SPEAKERS THAT HAVE FARMS, THEY HAVE LIVESTOCK, AND YOU WANNA SEE SOMEONE PANIC IS WHEN YOU HAVE A FARM AND YOU HAVE LIVESTOCK AND THEY DON'T HAVE WATER.

IT'S, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT DAYS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOURS.

THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

SO I, I I, I LIKED WHAT, UH, ONE OF THE COMMENTS ABOUT HAVING THE AQUIFER STUDIES FOR PRETTY MUCH LIKE INCORPORATING THAT INTO OUR ZONING.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, ESPECIALLY IT SEEMS TO BE A, A COMMON CONCERN THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

SO THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT.

MR. WINFREY.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.

MR. ERS.

UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY IF, IF WHERE I WAS BEFORE TODAY'S, UH, DISCUSSION WAS THINKING THAT THIS MIGHT REQUEST A RIGHT AND LEFT TURN LANE WAIVER WAS A NON-STARTER.

UM, IN MY OPINION, I THOUGHT, UM, THAT THAT IS THE WAY WE LOOK TO IMPROVE OUR ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, MOST READILY IN THIS COUNTY.

THAT'S JUST A REALITY OF THE SITUATION.

SO THAT BEING REQUESTED, WAIVER COMING BACK, CREATED CONCERN TO ME.

UM, AND I THINK AT A MINIMUM, IF A DEFERRAL IS GRANTED, THERE IS, THERE'S A THRESHOLD THAT HAS BEEN SET IN RECENT APPLICATIONS IS WE WANT TO SEE THE VIEW LINE OF SIGHT REALLY STUDIED, REALLY SHOWN THROUGH A CERTAIN LENS TO THOSE VIEWING THE PRESENTATION.

WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE ROAD IS BEING STRAIGHTENED.

WE WANT TO SEE, UM, NOT JUST, AH, WE'VE, WE, WE WANNA SEE THAT THE HYDROLOGIC, UM, STUDY, THOUGH IT MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARY, THAT IT'S BEEN, THAT, THAT THE APPLICANT HAS DIVED INTO IT SO THAT WE CAN SAY, FOR THIS REASON, THIS REASON, THIS REASON, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUIRED OR THIS IS WHY WE MADE THE DECISION THAT WE DID.

I REALLY, UM,

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I I TOTALLY INTEND TO GIVE THIS IF, UH, MY COLLEAGUES SO DECIDE TO GO ALONG WITH A DEFERRAL TO GIVE THIS THE APPROPRIATE CONSIDERATION IN TWO MONTHS OR MORE.

UM, BUT I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE DIRECT ADDRESSING OF THESE KEY ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP TONIGHT AND HOPEFULLY MORE.

I ALWAYS TELL APPLICANTS, ARE YOU LOOKING TO GO BEFORE WE PROBE INTO IT AND SHOW THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY ASSESSED THIS POTENTIAL DANGER, THIS POTENTIAL ISSUE, THESE THINGS, AND THIS IS HOW YOU INTEND TO REMEDY THOSE THINGS.

UM, I DO NOT MIND HEARING THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MILLION, YOU KNOW, A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR SOLUTION, AND THAT'S JUST NOT DOABLE.

I DON'T MIND THAT ANSWER IF IT'S BEEN LOOKED FOR IN ADVANCE, IF THE THOUGHTFULNESS HAS BEEN GIVEN THROUGHOUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE THINGS WHERE I SAW IT.

YOU COULD HAVE PUT 10 SLIDES TO THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ON THIS, THAT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT.

I I SEE WHAT'S GOING IN THE DEPICTION THAT WAS GIVEN.

BUT THERE ARE GREATER ISSUES.

THERE IS A HIGHER, UM, LEVEL OF CARE THAT WE WANNA SEE IN THESE APPLICATIONS RELATED TO THOSE KEY ISSUES.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I DO, UM, LIKE I SAID, HOPE TO BE ABSOLUTELY, UM, AMAZED IF THIS COMES UP FOR CONSIDERATION AGAIN.

AND, UM, BUT WHAT I WILL SAY IS THIS, THIS WAS NOT A CHANCE, UH, FOR ME, NOT TWO HOURS AGO WHEN I THOUGHT THAT A WAIVER WAS GONNA BE REQUESTED.

SO THERE IS A, THERE IS A THRESHOLD.

IT'S NOT SIMPLY MEETING, IT'S SHOWING THAT THERE IS CONSIDERATION ABOVE AND BEYOND ON ALL THESE KEY ISSUES THAT CITIZENS ARE ADDRESSING AND THAT WE WANNA SEE IN RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS COUNTY.

THOSE OR ALLEVIATE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO SEE.

THANK YOU, MR. OW.

UM, I HAVEN'T HEARD A MOTION YET, SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION.

OH, GO AHEAD.

AT THE RISK OF, UH, NOT KNOWING WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, 'CAUSE I, I'M NOT AN EXPERT, BUT, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME AN UNDERLYING CONCERN HERE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN, UH, VDOT CORRECTING WHAT IS AN EXISTING BAD SITUATION TO BEGIN WITH.

UH, WE'VE HEARD FROM EVERYBODY TONIGHT, IT, MAIDENS ROAD HAS ISSUES AND SO FORTH.

SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, WE KNOW THAT GOWIN COUNTY CANNOT AFFORD TO DO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.

WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GEARED UP FOR THAT.

WE DON'T DO OUR ROADS.

WE LIKE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, MOST MUNICIPALITIES IN THE STATE, WE RELY ON VDOT.

UM, BUT SO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FAITH FOR VDOT TO, TO TURN TO AND, AND, AND CORRECT THE ISSUE AND IMPROVE MAINTENANCE ROAD WITHIN THE SHORT TERM.

UM, I'M ALSO WONDERING IF 60 DAYS IS ENOUGH DEFERRAL , SINCE WE ARE BRINGING UP CERTAIN STUDIES THAT MAY REQUIRE, UM, MORE TIMES I GET A AQUI AQUIFER STUDY DONE.

UM, BUT I CAME INTO THIS THINKING IT WAS A REASONABLE REQUEST TO DEFER BECAUSE OF THE, UH, REALIZATION THAT WE NOW AWARE THAT WE HAVE A 70 FOOT WIDE AREA OF ROAD, UH, RIGHT OF WAY TO WORK WITH, UH, WHICH ALLOWS A STRAIGHTENING OUT OF THE CURVE, WHICH IS VERY DANGEROUS.

I, I'VE DRIVEN IT MYSELF.

UM, AND SO THERE IN LIES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITIZENS TO CONSIDER, WELL, THIS MAKE, UH, HOW MUCH WILL THIS MAKE MAIDENS ROAD IN GENERAL SAFER? I KNOW IT'S WHAT WE TALK ABOUT A MILE VERSUS AS PART OF A SIX MILE RUN THROUGH THERE.

UM, BUT IF IT HELPS AND, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES IT SAFER, UH, IT SEEMS TO MAKE SOME LOGICAL SENSE TO, TO DEFER THIS AND GIVE IT MORE TIME.

SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE WHERE IT WOULD HURT ANYTHING TO, I MEAN, MY QUESTION IS, IS 60 DAYS ENOUGH? AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE CAN CHANGE THAT NOW OR NOT.

I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT AN OFFICIAL REQUEST BEFORE US, BUT WE PROBABLY, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE TIME TO, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M, I, WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS TONIGHT I SEE A LOT OF CONCERN.

I SEE A LOT OF CONCERN ON BEHALF OF THE CITIZENS WHO'VE EXPRESSED THEMSELVES.

I SEE CONCERN AMONG THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.

SO IF WE HAVE SOME TIME AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REDUCE

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I KNOW TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

TIME MEANS MONEY, EVERYTHING ELSE.

BUT, UM, YES, MR. VARS, MR. I I DO HAVE A QUESTION TO MRS. MCGEE.

UH, COULD WE SET A DATE NO EARLIER THAN DECEMBER SIX, SIXTH AS PART OF OUR MOTION TO BE DETERMINED IN CONFERENCE BETWEEN STAFF? AND I DON'T WANT TO ADD MORE ADMINISTRATIVE NUANCES TO THIS, BUT I'D LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, APPLICANT TO BE ABLE TO SAY, YEAH, I, I HEAR THE BOARD AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA WORK TO GET THAT APPROPRIATE DATE.

I DON'T WANT TO ARBITRARILY SAY 60 DAYS IS THE NUMBER AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN.

UM, YOU, YOU WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK IN ANY EVENT BECAUSE THE ONCE IT'S BEFORE YOU FOR PUBLIC HEARING, A, A PUBLIC MOTION NEEDS TO DEFER TO SOME DATE CERTAIN, I MEAN, IT COULD BE THE MARCH 2 0 2 6 REGULAR MEETING, BUT, AND IF YOU DIDN'T, IF YOU SAID NOT EARLIER THAN DECEMBER, THEN THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING IN DECEMBER ALSO TO SET IT TO DO OKAY OUT.

AND PART OF WHY YOU DO THIS IS ALSO TO TELL STAFF WHEN TO ADVERTISE A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THAT HAS TO OCCUR IN THE MONTH PRIOR TO, UM, TO, UH, WHEN IT'S HEARD.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE OTHER REASONS THAT THERE IS.

BUT, BUT, UM, IF I MAY ALSO ADDRESS MR. WINFREY, THE APPLICANT IS BEFORE YOU HAVING ASKED FOR A 30 DAY DEFERRAL, THE BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DEFER, UM, ON ITS OWN TIME.

AND THE BOARD'S ACTION IS ENTITLED TO DEFER ANYTHING FOR UP TO 12 MONTHS.

OKAY? AND I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'VE BEEN ANY DEFERRALS.

I NOT CONSIDER THAT BY THE BOARD IN THIS CASE AT ALL.

UM, SO I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THIS WOULD, UH, INVOLVE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY TO CONSENT TO MORE TIME IF YOU HAVE A CONTRACT PENDING OR SOMETHING.

I, SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T GET INTO THAT.

SO YOU WANT, I'M SORRY, WHAT I HEARD MS. MCGEE, IT'S THE BOARD'S DECISION TO DEFER TO A DATE THEY'RE REQUESTING FOR US TO DEFER OUR PROCEDURES.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH.

SO IT'S, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DETERMINE WHEN THE BOARD WANTS TO HEAR IT AGAIN.

SO IT'S NOT UP TO THE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME.

IT'S UP TO THE BOARD.

BY UNDER COUNTY CODE TO BRING BACK A SUBSTANTIALLY SIMILAR APPLICATION FOR 12 MONTHS AFTER IF A DENIAL MOTION IS PASSED.

I UNDERSTAND, MA'AM.

AND I'M NOT AN ATTORNEY.

UM, SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION OF SOME SORT HERE TOO? UM, I THINK WHAT WAS ON THE TABLE WOULD BE 30 DAYS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT AN ADDITIONAL 30 DAYS, UH, REQUESTED BY THE BOARD.

SO IF THE BOARD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THAT, UH, DO WE WANT TO DO IT? I'M MUCH MAKING, I'LL MAKE A, I'M, I'M GONNA MOVE THAT WE DENY, UM, THIS CASE BASED ON THE INFORMATION, THE STAFF REPORT AND FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING, I MOVE THE BOARD DENY ZONING RZ 20 25 0 0 0 0 2 APPLICATION BY SERENITY TRAIL ON THE GROUNDS THAT IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH PUBLIC NECESSITY, CONVENIENCE IN GENERAL, WE WELFARE OF GOOD ZONING PRACTICES.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? Y YES, MR. CHAIR.

UM, MR. LYLE TOUCHED ON SOMETHING AND, AND AS DID ONE OF THE COMMENTERS THAT I THINK IS CRITICAL FOR THIS BOARD TO CONSIDER AND ALSO FOR THE, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO CONSIDER.

UM, ROSE RETREAT WAS BROUGHT UP THAT THAT IS, IS MOVING FORWARD AND, AND THERE WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT IN, IN ADDITION TO ROSE RETREAT, THERE'S ANOTHER 67 HOMES THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED IN 2006 THAT IS GOING RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD THAT WILL COME OUT NEAR CHENEY CREEK AND BY WOODS, UH, THE OLD WOODS AUTO, WHICH IS, UH, DANE MOTOR COMP DNC NOW.

UM, SO THAT'S OVER A HUNDRED HOMES THAT ARE GOING UP IN DISTRICT TWO ON WELLS AND, AND SEPTIC THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

AND MY, MY, THE POINT I'M MAKING IS, UH, CURRENT ASSESSMENTS BY THE STAFF IS THAT WE HAVE OVER A THOUSAND HOMES THAT CAN GO VERTICAL THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED OVER THE LAST 20 PLUS YEARS THAT NEED TO GO VERTICAL.

UM, THAT THEY ARE BY RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T THINK IN GOOD IT IS, I DON'T THINK IT IS.

THIS BOARD WOULD CAN SAY THAT WE ARE BEING WELL MANAGING THE GROWTH WELL BY APPROVING NEW THINGS WHEN SO MUCH CAN GO VERTICAL TOMORROW.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? UM, YES, SIR.

UH, MS. MCGEE, THEY CAN ALWAYS REAPPLY AFTER ONE YEAR, CORRECT? YES.

THE APPLICANT IS NOT ENTITLED

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UM, ALL RIGHT.

I GUESS AT THIS POINT, LET'S CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.

AND THE MOTION IS TO DENY.

THE MOTION IS TO DENY.

SO A YES VOTE IS A DENIAL VOTE.

OKAY, WE'LL START WITH MR. LYLE.

YAY.

MR. CHRISTIE? YES, MR. SPOON.

THE PASSAGE OF A DENIAL VOTE IS ACTION ON THE CASE BY THE BOARD.

[XVIII. Adjournment]